WEBVTT 00:00:12.209 --> 00:00:14.869 Hello ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, welcome 00:00:14.869 --> 00:00:19.050 back to Lore Crimes! We like Lore Crimes, we 00:00:19.050 --> 00:00:23.129 like Lore Crimes. So, it's been a while since 00:00:23.129 --> 00:00:25.589 we've talked about stuff in the fantasy setting, 00:00:25.710 --> 00:00:27.670 I think. I think the last one was, what was the 00:00:27.670 --> 00:00:29.070 last time we talked about something in fantasy? 00:00:29.089 --> 00:00:32.670 Godric and Felix. Godric and Felix 2. Or 3. One 00:00:32.670 --> 00:00:35.609 of them. 3. So it's been a little while. There's 00:00:35.609 --> 00:00:37.899 a lot of those books, alright. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:00:37.899 --> 00:00:39.119 We're getting through it, though. We are getting 00:00:39.119 --> 00:00:42.219 through it. Before the Horus Heresy came out, 00:00:42.320 --> 00:00:45.259 GW's cash cow was a dwarf and his whipping bitch. 00:00:49.240 --> 00:00:51.899 It's like, what's his name? Dandelion from The 00:00:51.899 --> 00:00:53.640 Witcher before Dandelion from Witcher existed. 00:00:53.899 --> 00:00:58.280 You had Felix. But evil wave, pretty much. But 00:00:58.280 --> 00:01:00.340 Colin, you're in charge of this episode. What 00:01:00.340 --> 00:01:02.780 are we talking about today? We are talking about 00:01:02.780 --> 00:01:07.459 Archeon, the Ever Chosen. Chaos when... You know, 00:01:07.480 --> 00:01:10.920 it's a very fun mix of a very intimidating figure, 00:01:11.180 --> 00:01:13.680 you know, someone who properly leads the hordes 00:01:13.680 --> 00:01:20.819 of evil, and endless author fiat. And not even 00:01:20.819 --> 00:01:25.239 just in the end times, because he had some controversial 00:01:25.239 --> 00:01:27.579 stuff before that even happened, because when 00:01:27.579 --> 00:01:30.400 you're the leader of a faction, there's going 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:32.340 to be some arguments about you. It's just the 00:01:32.340 --> 00:01:35.780 way it is. his poor gonads as well in the original 00:01:35.780 --> 00:01:41.060 ending man got like absolutely rocket kicked 00:01:41.060 --> 00:01:44.719 into the nuts by uh is it grim gore i think it 00:01:44.719 --> 00:01:48.040 was well i'll briefly talk about that since it's 00:01:48.040 --> 00:01:51.840 even more non -canon than anything else at this 00:01:51.840 --> 00:01:55.519 point but you know it it still happened uh i 00:01:55.519 --> 00:01:57.599 also have a very shitty peace offering if you'll 00:01:57.599 --> 00:02:00.900 give me just a moment uh just one moment the 00:02:00.900 --> 00:02:03.879 green hat this better be happening Is it happening? 00:02:04.019 --> 00:02:06.480 I think it's happening. There have been threats 00:02:06.480 --> 00:02:09.840 in the comments. No way. Is the dude here as 00:02:09.840 --> 00:02:13.620 well? Is he here? He was here before we started. 00:02:13.840 --> 00:02:19.240 Is he pregnant? Oh, it is a green hat. It's not 00:02:19.240 --> 00:02:25.539 really a hat, but it is green. It is green. Let's 00:02:25.539 --> 00:02:29.300 see if this piece is... It really hurts. For 00:02:29.300 --> 00:02:32.439 context, though, people who lit the... crazy 00:02:32.439 --> 00:02:34.719 that people will be uninitiated a dude has been 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:38.379 saying this he's been donating and reminding 00:02:38.379 --> 00:02:40.360 us that colin will wear a hat for i think about 00:02:40.360 --> 00:02:46.419 seven weeks in a row and to be fair i'm assuming 00:02:46.419 --> 00:02:48.860 that colin's not wearing the that he wore a halo 00:02:48.860 --> 00:02:50.500 free helmet i'm assuring it's not the one that 00:02:50.500 --> 00:02:53.099 came with halo free was like a slit is all that's 00:02:53.099 --> 00:02:54.659 there so you can fit like a few games i'm assuming 00:02:54.659 --> 00:02:56.659 you didn't put that no that that was from like 00:02:56.659 --> 00:03:01.210 a 60 master chief costume from party city where 00:03:01.210 --> 00:03:03.330 that plastic helmet is actually kind of sick, 00:03:03.449 --> 00:03:07.009 but the rest of it was just puffy. I really want 00:03:07.009 --> 00:03:12.169 to get the Doom helmet. It was like fake muscle 00:03:12.169 --> 00:03:15.090 suit, but it wasn't even a muscle suit. It was 00:03:15.090 --> 00:03:20.189 just puffy in places where it's armor. It was 00:03:20.189 --> 00:03:22.150 a real piece of garbage, but I loved it, but 00:03:22.150 --> 00:03:23.889 I had to throw it out because I got puke all 00:03:23.889 --> 00:03:26.830 over it. Remember the days when Call of Duty 00:03:26.830 --> 00:03:28.770 Special Editions gave you night vision goggles? 00:03:28.990 --> 00:03:34.360 That was pretty cool. Back in the day when games 00:03:34.360 --> 00:03:38.300 had an up -down, up -down, side -side hack -combo 00:03:38.300 --> 00:03:40.400 -cheat thing, and then you just won a tank in 00:03:40.400 --> 00:03:43.439 one of the Grand Theft Auto or something. Now 00:03:43.439 --> 00:03:46.919 you can pay $150 for the Borderlands 4 special 00:03:46.919 --> 00:03:50.599 collection, not Borderlands 4. And if you don't 00:03:50.599 --> 00:03:53.240 want it, don't buy it. Good idea. Thanks, Randy. 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:57.050 Don't worry, I won't. Speaking of gameplay, though, 00:03:57.090 --> 00:03:59.750 we have some rather fun gameplay of Urban Pride 00:03:59.750 --> 00:04:02.669 for you guys to watch. I'm not in this gameplay 00:04:02.669 --> 00:04:05.810 because I still don't have the game, but this 00:04:05.810 --> 00:04:07.689 is from Colin's perspective, so it's quite fitting. 00:04:08.650 --> 00:04:13.050 But with that, without any more said, where do 00:04:13.050 --> 00:04:16.029 we start off with RK? I'm gassed. I love this, 00:04:16.029 --> 00:04:19.769 dude. We start off... You know, I wasn't going 00:04:19.769 --> 00:04:21.850 to say it for once. I'm glad someone else did. 00:04:23.709 --> 00:04:30.519 We start... with uh with bellicore uh so bellicore 00:04:30.519 --> 00:04:35.180 is uh you know first demon prince of chaos and 00:04:35.180 --> 00:04:37.279 with depending on the lore you're reading the 00:04:37.279 --> 00:04:42.319 only one of chaos undivided he used to be very 00:04:42.319 --> 00:04:44.420 powerful right he used to be the only he the 00:04:44.420 --> 00:04:48.000 chaos god's top guy and then he got a little 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:50.740 bit too full of himself zinch hit him with a 00:04:50.740 --> 00:04:53.639 glassing beam at least uh as it looked in the 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:56.779 Total Warhammer 3 trailer, and then he kind of 00:04:56.779 --> 00:05:00.339 didn't really have a body or proper spirit. Well, 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:03.899 proper body. He did, however, have plenty of 00:05:03.899 --> 00:05:07.000 schemes up to and including possessing at least 00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:10.839 one Everchosen before his power burnt out the 00:05:10.839 --> 00:05:15.720 vessel, and an indomitable spirit to keep trying. 00:05:16.560 --> 00:05:19.100 Should we mention what an Ever Chosen is for 00:05:19.100 --> 00:05:21.139 context for the people? Because they're very 00:05:21.139 --> 00:05:25.160 familiar with the Warhammer 40k. They might not 00:05:25.160 --> 00:05:28.740 have the fantasy know -how. An Ever Chosen is 00:05:28.740 --> 00:05:33.240 basically someone who quests to become the Warmaster 00:05:33.240 --> 00:05:36.300 equivalent for fantasy. They have the blessing 00:05:36.300 --> 00:05:40.620 of all four Chaos Gods. They have the most kitted 00:05:40.620 --> 00:05:43.899 out of Chaos Armor. It's some of the best in 00:05:43.899 --> 00:05:47.149 the setting. It's... And then they usually go 00:05:47.149 --> 00:05:49.629 down south to try and burn down the world. Or 00:05:49.629 --> 00:05:53.470 at least the Empire. A lot of the ever -chosen. 00:05:53.569 --> 00:05:55.610 The End Times wasn't actually on the docket for 00:05:55.610 --> 00:05:57.230 a lot of the ever -chosen. A lot of them just 00:05:57.230 --> 00:06:00.069 had beef with the Empire. It's basically like 00:06:00.069 --> 00:06:03.269 multiple Horuses. Multiple Horus heresies, essentially. 00:06:03.750 --> 00:06:06.589 Well, the thing is, Warmaster isn't even an exclusive 00:06:06.589 --> 00:06:11.389 term to Horus. Achilles, who was Lord Solar, 00:06:11.629 --> 00:06:13.829 and then he became a Warmaster. I'm pretty sure 00:06:13.829 --> 00:06:15.829 Ibram Gaunt becomes a Warmaster at one point, 00:06:15.870 --> 00:06:18.449 or he helps a Warmaster of the Imperium, but 00:06:18.449 --> 00:06:20.509 it's like that's pretty much the highest rank 00:06:20.509 --> 00:06:22.709 under Lord Commander for the Imperium, but Everchosen 00:06:22.709 --> 00:06:25.389 is like it comes with more perks than just a 00:06:25.389 --> 00:06:27.970 title. You are basically in charge of chaos. 00:06:29.189 --> 00:06:31.670 Obviously, it's chaos. There's still going to 00:06:31.670 --> 00:06:33.810 be some attempted backstabbing every now and 00:06:33.810 --> 00:06:36.500 again, but you... You have the power to keep 00:06:36.500 --> 00:06:40.160 that in check, and you have the power to at least 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:42.579 hurt the world pretty damn badly. And as you'll 00:06:42.579 --> 00:06:45.360 find out, Archeon is the only person to have 00:06:45.360 --> 00:06:48.220 won Warhammer, so we'll get to that. It's not 00:06:48.220 --> 00:06:54.639 quite like Abaddon's thing. Abaddon is kind of 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:56.519 like a herald. He's not really a herald, but 00:06:56.519 --> 00:07:01.160 Chaos somewhat accepts him, whereas an Everchosen 00:07:01.160 --> 00:07:04.839 is... They have the outright blessing. Yeah, 00:07:04.879 --> 00:07:07.500 like fancy... The Chaos Gods are the same, but 00:07:07.500 --> 00:07:10.459 they're very much more... I guess not weaker, 00:07:10.579 --> 00:07:12.680 but they put their full backing behind their 00:07:12.680 --> 00:07:15.240 Ever Chosen, because that's their conduit for... 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:19.459 It's a real impressive person, especially because, 00:07:19.579 --> 00:07:22.019 like you said, Abaddon's like... The Chaos God's 00:07:22.019 --> 00:07:24.540 like, yeah, we'll tolerate you. We'll help you 00:07:24.540 --> 00:07:28.040 out. Whereas the Ever Chosen, you get all four 00:07:28.040 --> 00:07:31.100 of them to agree somehow that this guy... This 00:07:31.100 --> 00:07:34.000 guy is our man. He's going to do it. He's like 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:37.279 Super Satan. Yeah. Like Super Saiyan, but with 00:07:37.279 --> 00:07:42.199 a demon. With a T. Yeah, yeah. And in this case, 00:07:42.259 --> 00:07:45.800 Bellacor's schemes may not have been schemes 00:07:45.800 --> 00:07:49.920 because during a Norscan raid into the Empire 00:07:49.920 --> 00:07:54.040 province of Nordland, he possessed a man and 00:07:54.040 --> 00:08:02.339 had his way with a Nordland woman. So it starts 00:08:02.339 --> 00:08:06.240 a little dark, you could certainly say. A little. 00:08:06.439 --> 00:08:12.459 Yeah. This Norland woman then, we get away from 00:08:12.459 --> 00:08:16.319 it, but it's a real rough early start. Norland 00:08:16.319 --> 00:08:19.560 woman then unsuccessfully tries to not have the 00:08:19.560 --> 00:08:24.680 baby, dies in childbirth, and her surviving family 00:08:24.680 --> 00:08:27.790 members want nothing to do with the child. So 00:08:27.790 --> 00:08:30.509 the midwife leaves it on the door of a Sigmarite 00:08:30.509 --> 00:08:37.629 church. And baby Archeon almost gets devoured 00:08:37.629 --> 00:08:41.370 by wolves before a Sigmarite priest shoes him 00:08:41.370 --> 00:08:45.549 off, rescues him, and merch. Let's go. Merch. 00:08:48.350 --> 00:08:50.629 I'm Bill the Warhammer, that's all. All right, 00:08:50.629 --> 00:08:54.570 fair enough. I'm not trying to advertise. I wasn't 00:08:54.570 --> 00:08:58.009 judging. I was shouting it out. We do have merch. 00:08:58.149 --> 00:09:02.230 We have Boingob shirts and stuff. We do. If you 00:09:02.230 --> 00:09:05.029 want Boingob, celebrate your life and your lord 00:09:05.029 --> 00:09:08.929 and savior. No, this is Goinbog. Completely unrelated. 00:09:09.970 --> 00:09:14.289 Yes, sorry, Goinbog. So this Sigmarite priest 00:09:14.289 --> 00:09:19.169 rescues Archeon and he becomes a, as he grows 00:09:19.169 --> 00:09:22.710 up, a squire of a knight named Sir Kastner. And 00:09:22.710 --> 00:09:25.779 indeed, for the first... few decades of Archeon's 00:09:25.779 --> 00:09:29.240 life. His name is Diedrich Kastner, a warrior 00:09:29.240 --> 00:09:34.340 knight of the Templars of Sigmar. Wasn't the 00:09:34.340 --> 00:09:41.679 Sigmar priest like a real bastard as well? Don't 00:09:41.679 --> 00:09:44.379 speak ill of the dead. I mean, I think he was 00:09:44.379 --> 00:09:51.149 like he threw hands. Oh yeah, oh yeah. I think 00:09:51.149 --> 00:09:53.210 we can speak ill of some dead. Some dead deserve 00:09:53.210 --> 00:09:56.789 it. Yeah, let's not protect the guy who threw 00:09:56.789 --> 00:10:00.789 hands at kids. Alright, well then stop protecting 00:10:00.789 --> 00:10:08.669 every Primark. Duke can play at the child abuse 00:10:08.669 --> 00:10:14.929 allegations game. Jesus. But in spite of, you 00:10:14.929 --> 00:10:17.570 know, in spite of their potentially maybe perhaps 00:10:17.570 --> 00:10:20.110 being better fathers to get than Sir Kastner, 00:10:20.269 --> 00:10:24.730 young Diedrich became like an exemplar of the 00:10:24.730 --> 00:10:28.789 Orier, like the finest knight they would ever 00:10:28.789 --> 00:10:34.529 see. Eventually, you know, his sire died. And 00:10:34.529 --> 00:10:38.250 Diedrich, because again, he's still a good guy. 00:10:38.370 --> 00:10:43.059 He's still a proper true Sigmarite priest. took 00:10:43.059 --> 00:10:45.879 his sword and gave it to the lady of, uh, you 00:10:45.879 --> 00:10:51.779 know, Sir Kastner's house, uh, who, who was, 00:10:51.919 --> 00:10:56.700 uh, not well treated by her husband. So yeah, 00:10:56.759 --> 00:10:59.720 this guy was a real piece. He's awful. Didn't 00:10:59.720 --> 00:11:03.480 he get, didn't he get like shanked by goblins? 00:11:03.539 --> 00:11:06.470 If I remember. He did not die honorably, no. 00:11:06.809 --> 00:11:10.269 I think he fell into a pit. He fell into a pit, 00:11:10.490 --> 00:11:13.009 and then he was like, get me out, Diedrich. You 00:11:13.009 --> 00:11:15.409 bastard, get me out. And then Diedrich was like, 00:11:15.509 --> 00:11:17.529 oh, go in. And then the goblins just arrived. 00:11:17.929 --> 00:11:23.009 And he's like, damn, man. It's dogpiled him. 00:11:23.090 --> 00:11:26.870 Not everyone gets a dignified death. And his 00:11:26.870 --> 00:11:31.309 dad, his adopted night dad certainly didn't. 00:11:32.470 --> 00:11:37.379 But, see, The lady, you know, Lady Kastner, was 00:11:37.379 --> 00:11:42.759 much better of a person. And, you know, she was 00:11:42.759 --> 00:11:46.460 touched by him still delivering the sword, and 00:11:46.460 --> 00:11:51.480 so adopted him into her house, gave him Sir Kastner's 00:11:51.480 --> 00:11:55.639 sword, as well as his horse, and Diedrich Kastner 00:11:55.639 --> 00:11:58.139 became a member of the Order of the Twin -Tailed 00:11:58.139 --> 00:12:02.759 Orb, who would just kind of... Like I said, he 00:12:02.759 --> 00:12:05.860 would wreck shop. He was the kind of hero, he 00:12:05.860 --> 00:12:07.860 walks into a camp of beastmen, and then when 00:12:07.860 --> 00:12:09.700 he leaves, there's no more camp of beastmen left. 00:12:09.820 --> 00:12:13.820 He was an absolute powerhouse, and firmly devoted 00:12:13.820 --> 00:12:17.000 to Sigmar. He's bulky. He's big, isn't he? He's 00:12:17.000 --> 00:12:20.960 pretty big. Oh, he's massive. He's part Norskin. 00:12:21.000 --> 00:12:27.279 He's juiced. Chungus. Yeah, so his first few 00:12:27.279 --> 00:12:30.710 decades of his life were being a... A fanatical 00:12:30.710 --> 00:12:33.690 Sigmarite. He was doing his lord's work, and 00:12:33.690 --> 00:12:36.929 he did fully believe in it. There's no, like, 00:12:36.970 --> 00:12:39.950 the secret blood of chaos was making him secretly 00:12:39.950 --> 00:12:42.470 evil. He was a Sigmarite. And this isn't, you 00:12:42.470 --> 00:12:44.710 know, this isn't an uncommon thing, because there 00:12:44.710 --> 00:12:47.230 are a lot of southern Norskins that peacefully 00:12:47.230 --> 00:12:49.230 integrate with the Empire every now and again. 00:12:49.350 --> 00:12:51.409 So there are a lot of, especially in Nordland, 00:12:51.450 --> 00:12:54.450 a lot of half -Norskins running around. He was 00:12:54.450 --> 00:12:59.529 a very powerful one, but initially... Not all 00:12:59.529 --> 00:13:00.990 that different from a lot of the other ones. 00:13:01.049 --> 00:13:03.669 He just happened to be one who found himself 00:13:03.669 --> 00:13:11.210 in a holy order. At this point, however, Diedrich 00:13:11.210 --> 00:13:14.490 comes across a couple sisters of Sigmar who had 00:13:14.490 --> 00:13:20.830 a slightly heretical tome known as the Liber 00:13:20.830 --> 00:13:25.000 Celestior, who... this is another one of those 00:13:25.000 --> 00:13:28.159 GW creativity moments, was penned by a man named 00:13:28.159 --> 00:13:33.299 Necrodormo the Insane. Oh, no. You don't need 00:13:33.299 --> 00:13:36.259 the insane part, surely. That's implied, surely. 00:13:36.840 --> 00:13:39.960 So Necrodamus is canon to Warhammer fantasy, 00:13:40.059 --> 00:13:45.519 at least, yes. And this book held the prophecy 00:13:45.519 --> 00:13:49.220 of the Ever Chosen of Chaos. The man, the final 00:13:49.220 --> 00:13:51.659 Ever Chosen, the Champion of Chaos, would bring 00:13:51.659 --> 00:13:55.580 about the end times. It was being taken to the 00:13:55.580 --> 00:13:59.460 Grand Cathedral of Sigmar and Altdorf so they 00:13:59.460 --> 00:14:01.740 could just lock it away, no one ever sees it 00:14:01.740 --> 00:14:03.840 again, and keep any Chaos Knights from reading 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:07.899 the full stuff of the prophecy and try and make 00:14:07.899 --> 00:14:10.379 use of it. This warband being the Swords of Chaos, 00:14:10.620 --> 00:14:13.820 they will come up later. Diedrich, for his part, 00:14:13.980 --> 00:14:18.769 hadn't seen the prophecy for himself. Didn't 00:14:18.769 --> 00:14:21.830 really care about it beyond, that's a chaos thing, 00:14:21.950 --> 00:14:23.769 therefore it's bad, and that is the end of my 00:14:23.769 --> 00:14:30.370 thoughts on it. And it just didn't really mean 00:14:30.370 --> 00:14:32.490 anything to him. He did learn a bit of the prophecy, 00:14:32.610 --> 00:14:39.070 though, and he seemingly never also put together 00:14:39.070 --> 00:14:41.210 that he was a bit off in the sense of being a 00:14:41.210 --> 00:14:46.820 Norscan, partially. was all in the Sigmarite 00:14:46.820 --> 00:14:50.600 sauce, and as the signs, as they begin doing 00:14:50.600 --> 00:14:54.620 now, start lining up, it still didn't click at 00:14:54.620 --> 00:15:00.419 first. It didn't click fully when his own order 00:15:00.419 --> 00:15:03.700 started hunting him down, because someone spilled 00:15:03.700 --> 00:15:08.019 the beans that, hey, this might fit him, and 00:15:08.019 --> 00:15:11.870 it still didn't quite click. When he started 00:15:11.870 --> 00:15:15.490 avoiding those Swords of Chaos that warband, 00:15:15.750 --> 00:15:17.789 even though they weren't trying to kill him, 00:15:18.129 --> 00:15:22.610 didn't quite click that they might have been 00:15:22.610 --> 00:15:25.730 looking for their ever -chosen. Young Archeon 00:15:25.730 --> 00:15:31.509 was a bit thick. He tried to go to the Kastner 00:15:31.509 --> 00:15:33.909 estate, because he is an honorable member of 00:15:33.909 --> 00:15:36.830 that family. Burned to the ground, so that doesn't 00:15:36.830 --> 00:15:40.070 help. He talks with a young sister of Sigmar. 00:15:40.570 --> 00:15:42.649 uh, as well as the priest who, you know, found 00:15:42.649 --> 00:15:45.549 him kind of helped raise them as to, Hey, why 00:15:45.549 --> 00:15:48.090 is the empire trying to kill me? And why did 00:15:48.090 --> 00:15:50.490 the swords of chaos want my mate and want my 00:15:50.490 --> 00:15:59.690 meat? Uh, so I look, they seemed, they seemed 00:15:59.690 --> 00:16:02.250 really into this guy. Right. And he, he didn't 00:16:02.250 --> 00:16:05.169 know the full story yet. He didn't actually think 00:16:05.169 --> 00:16:06.190 they wanted him. Are you telling me there's a 00:16:06.190 --> 00:16:09.669 group of burly Norskins shouting and pointing 00:16:09.669 --> 00:16:12.809 to this other burly guy and saying, grab his 00:16:12.809 --> 00:16:16.389 dick and twist it. Yeah, but they didn't want 00:16:16.389 --> 00:16:18.049 to twist it off. They wanted to give him the 00:16:18.049 --> 00:16:22.090 old coronate sloppy topic. I don't know where 00:16:22.090 --> 00:16:25.950 I'm going with this. Let's move on. There's another 00:16:25.950 --> 00:16:35.360 for the compilation. Uh, uh, this, but, uh, Diedrich, 00:16:35.480 --> 00:16:38.019 the sister of Sigmar and the priest come to the 00:16:38.019 --> 00:16:40.940 conclusion that he, he might fit that prophecy. 00:16:41.120 --> 00:16:45.139 Uh, the reasoning being one, he was obviously 00:16:45.139 --> 00:16:47.320 to pretty much everyone, but him, he was of Norsican 00:16:47.320 --> 00:16:50.419 descent and he was a knight of the empire, which 00:16:50.419 --> 00:16:53.039 was the part of the criteria for this foretold 00:16:53.039 --> 00:16:57.720 prophecy, which very vague criteria. I'm not 00:16:57.720 --> 00:16:59.480 going to admit there are plenty of people out 00:16:59.480 --> 00:17:02.299 there that would fit this criteria. But Warhammer 00:17:02.299 --> 00:17:04.539 fantasy, it's in the name. It's a fantasy setting. 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:07.500 And, you know, in epic fantasy settings, a vague 00:17:07.500 --> 00:17:09.579 enough prophecy like that is oftentimes enough 00:17:09.579 --> 00:17:11.680 for people to take it seriously and worry about, 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:19.940 right? So that's kind of it. His first response 00:17:19.940 --> 00:17:25.740 after learning this was to hang himself. It worked. 00:17:25.920 --> 00:17:29.680 It worked. He died. And then the chaos god said, 00:17:29.779 --> 00:17:35.029 nuh -uh. And the Chaos God went, another one. 00:17:35.470 --> 00:17:38.789 Yeah, then they brought him back. He was not 00:17:38.789 --> 00:17:42.069 getting out of it that easy. He got Sanguiniest. 00:17:42.170 --> 00:17:45.809 Oh no. Which, again, you know, in a really messed 00:17:45.809 --> 00:17:51.289 up way... Dante. Oh, so he's more like Dante, 00:17:51.309 --> 00:17:54.970 not Sanguiniest. In a really messed up way, good 00:17:54.970 --> 00:17:57.670 on him for trying to deny the gods they're ever 00:17:57.670 --> 00:18:01.119 chosen, but... When all four of them say, you're 00:18:01.119 --> 00:18:04.980 coming back, it's... Not much you can do. Yeah. 00:18:06.940 --> 00:18:09.339 When peer pressure fails, there's just pressure 00:18:09.339 --> 00:18:14.039 without the peer. So instead, he now, he went 00:18:14.039 --> 00:18:18.299 to Altdorf to try and learn the truth, and perhaps, 00:18:18.519 --> 00:18:22.940 since it's in the Grand Cathedral of Sigmar, 00:18:23.079 --> 00:18:26.880 maybe get some denial from, you know, like a... 00:18:27.679 --> 00:18:29.700 like a message from Sigmar, like, no, don't worry 00:18:29.700 --> 00:18:31.319 about that. You know, yeah, you got a rough, 00:18:31.339 --> 00:18:33.200 you got a rough life, but you're not going to 00:18:33.200 --> 00:18:38.460 be him. So he heads to Altdorf, goes to an altar 00:18:38.460 --> 00:18:42.160 of Sigmar to prayer before it and just beg and 00:18:42.160 --> 00:18:45.380 plead. Tell me I'm not forsaken by you, Sigmar, 00:18:45.420 --> 00:18:47.460 and that I'm not damned to this fate to become 00:18:47.460 --> 00:18:51.680 the ever chosen. And all he got was silence and 00:18:51.680 --> 00:18:56.250 response, which on Sigmar's part. I don't blame 00:18:56.250 --> 00:18:58.809 them too much because if the chaos gods are outright 00:18:58.809 --> 00:19:01.990 bringing him back from the dead, they can probably 00:19:01.990 --> 00:19:06.190 shut off, you know, Sigmar's phone line. I would 00:19:06.190 --> 00:19:09.789 have hoped that one of the other dozens of gods 00:19:09.789 --> 00:19:11.930 in the setting might have pitched in for the 00:19:11.930 --> 00:19:15.109 phone call. Like, look, hey, Sigmar, he's stuck 00:19:15.109 --> 00:19:17.150 in the vortex. He can't get to you right now, 00:19:17.230 --> 00:19:21.130 but look, you're good. But no one answered Sigmar's 00:19:21.130 --> 00:19:27.339 prayers. I don't got any data. Yeah. Said all 00:19:27.339 --> 00:19:31.660 the gods. Yeah, no one got to the phone in time. 00:19:31.759 --> 00:19:35.980 And so he went a little bit ballistic from this. 00:19:36.240 --> 00:19:40.740 And his ability to let him walk into various 00:19:40.740 --> 00:19:43.920 beastmen, goblin, whatever camps, and butcher 00:19:43.920 --> 00:19:46.740 everyone in there, led him to murder everyone 00:19:46.740 --> 00:19:49.660 who was in the Sigmarite Cathedral, the entire 00:19:49.660 --> 00:19:52.970 nightly garrison. You know, presumably a couple 00:19:52.970 --> 00:19:54.829 people who made the mistake of going to prayer 00:19:54.829 --> 00:19:58.789 late that night. And he broke and crippled the 00:19:58.789 --> 00:20:03.309 grand theogeness of the time, the Sigmar Pope. 00:20:04.009 --> 00:20:07.269 He started breaking his fingers one by one. And 00:20:07.269 --> 00:20:09.329 Dietrich started asking him, how the hell do 00:20:09.329 --> 00:20:12.829 you know that I'm the ever chosen? There's look, 00:20:12.930 --> 00:20:16.079 there's got to be. Countless, like there's surely 00:20:16.079 --> 00:20:18.859 thousands of half -Norscans running around. There's 00:20:18.859 --> 00:20:20.599 thousands of knights that have fallen to chaos. 00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:25.000 How do you know it's me? It was just what he 00:20:25.000 --> 00:20:29.960 was trying to ask. And the Grand Theogonist hit 00:20:29.960 --> 00:20:32.700 him with this little nugget. They didn't know, 00:20:32.839 --> 00:20:35.539 and they were just killing everyone who fit the 00:20:35.539 --> 00:20:40.079 profile to make sure. The real kicker was that 00:20:40.079 --> 00:20:43.230 the prophesized Everchosen would travel to the 00:20:43.230 --> 00:20:45.670 Temple of Sigmar in Altdorf and ask the Grand 00:20:45.670 --> 00:20:50.329 Theogonist that exact question? Thank you, Dreadanon. 00:20:50.549 --> 00:20:54.730 Thank you, Dreadanon. Also, I thought it'd be 00:20:54.730 --> 00:20:56.710 easy to find who the Everchosen was because when 00:20:56.710 --> 00:20:58.509 you get near them, you start hearing boss music. 00:20:58.609 --> 00:21:01.569 Like, ah, that guy. Yeah, you hear like the Vort 00:21:01.569 --> 00:21:06.849 soundtrack from Dark Souls. Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's 00:21:06.849 --> 00:21:19.500 the guy. This one made him go nuts. He was out. 00:21:20.660 --> 00:21:23.900 Diedrich's insanity has entered. What's left 00:21:23.900 --> 00:21:28.079 of his mind is gone. It's time to change teams. 00:21:29.079 --> 00:21:34.920 So he... It is related, I promise. Does anyone 00:21:34.920 --> 00:21:38.019 here know Dragon Age? Not the crappy one. newer 00:21:38.019 --> 00:21:42.519 version of the game. I've only played Inquisition. 00:21:42.599 --> 00:21:44.420 It was the only one I've played because it was 00:21:44.420 --> 00:21:47.380 on sale at GameStop. Who remembers GameStop, 00:21:47.519 --> 00:21:51.359 kids? There's still one in my city. Do you remember 00:21:51.359 --> 00:21:55.380 the line? I think there's the line from the bad 00:21:55.380 --> 00:21:59.099 guy in Inquisition called Corypheus where he 00:21:59.099 --> 00:22:03.640 says, I've been to the golden city. He literally 00:22:03.640 --> 00:22:07.559 drops a line like, I've been to heaven. and the 00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:10.940 throne was empty. And it was like, oh my god. 00:22:12.480 --> 00:22:15.200 It's like, basically, essentially the plot of 00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:17.819 it is like, the gods, there's no gods and they're 00:22:17.819 --> 00:22:21.180 basically forsaken. But he prayed to gods to 00:22:21.180 --> 00:22:24.160 help him and then not let him be corrupted. Essentially, 00:22:24.259 --> 00:22:29.359 gods were silent. Gods did not give him much. 00:22:30.900 --> 00:22:34.079 Because he, it's a weird thing with Diedrich 00:22:34.079 --> 00:22:36.319 at the moment where he's like, he doesn't want 00:22:36.319 --> 00:22:38.920 to succumb to his fate isn't like he doesn't 00:22:38.920 --> 00:22:41.880 want to like his he doesn't want his destiny 00:22:41.880 --> 00:22:44.660 like pre -written for him in some way to be like 00:22:44.660 --> 00:22:48.279 this ever chosen but he's also like if i'm gonna 00:22:48.279 --> 00:22:51.000 you know he basically like my fate is like the 00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:53.380 same thing with like horus isn't it when he encounters 00:22:53.380 --> 00:22:56.500 chaos like he knows about he's like i'm not gonna 00:22:56.500 --> 00:23:00.599 say no but my fate is my own kind of thing he's 00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:03.099 like i'm i'm gonna embrace parts of it but i 00:23:03.099 --> 00:23:06.079 i'm gonna it'll be my choice whether i am the 00:23:06.079 --> 00:23:10.779 uh the big bad or not just a bit of chaos just 00:23:10.779 --> 00:23:14.000 i'll have enough to keep me going like yeah it's 00:23:14.000 --> 00:23:16.420 not fully a chaos it's the thing with like with 00:23:16.420 --> 00:23:18.740 horace things he's like i'm just you he literally 00:23:18.740 --> 00:23:21.619 says in like is it galaxy in flames i mean he 00:23:21.619 --> 00:23:23.579 says like the third book you're like i'm using 00:23:23.579 --> 00:23:26.380 it to the dethrone the emperor then eventually 00:23:26.380 --> 00:23:30.339 he's just like i'm in super normal At this point, 00:23:30.380 --> 00:23:33.680 Diedrich Kastner is not corrupted by chaos, but 00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:36.599 he's very much like... But he's more than happy 00:23:36.599 --> 00:23:40.319 to let himself be. He's willing to explore what 00:23:40.319 --> 00:23:42.559 it is at this point, because he's like, well, 00:23:42.640 --> 00:23:45.640 the other path I chose literally abandoned me, 00:23:45.740 --> 00:23:48.819 so let's just have a... He's not fully, fully 00:23:48.819 --> 00:23:52.200 in, but he's also like... He starts swearing 00:23:52.200 --> 00:23:54.720 he's going to bring the Empire down, reveal Sigmar... 00:23:54.720 --> 00:23:57.819 Or forsaking him. a false god he's a he's you 00:23:57.819 --> 00:24:00.460 know denounces him all of that and you know newly 00:24:00.460 --> 00:24:04.220 crowned bad guy stuff uh during this time the 00:24:04.220 --> 00:24:07.740 grand theogonist raises his broken fingers and 00:24:07.740 --> 00:24:11.240 goes actually uh every canon in altdorf is also 00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:15.980 pointed at this cathedral uh eat my dick uh but 00:24:15.980 --> 00:24:20.359 ever chosen is gonna be born no matter what and 00:24:20.359 --> 00:24:25.000 so despite uh The Empire being about to tear 00:24:25.000 --> 00:24:27.980 this entire thing down. The Swords of Chaos come 00:24:27.980 --> 00:24:31.559 back just in time. They rescue him and dip out 00:24:31.559 --> 00:24:35.240 to Norsca. It should also be noted that the original 00:24:35.240 --> 00:24:38.220 version of this prophecy is he kind of just reads 00:24:38.220 --> 00:24:40.319 the prophecy and then just kind of goes insane 00:24:40.319 --> 00:24:45.599 and runs off. The newer version, take what you 00:24:45.599 --> 00:24:47.980 will for him maybe being a little bit overpowered 00:24:47.980 --> 00:24:50.440 or Sigmar being a dummy and not answering the 00:24:50.440 --> 00:24:53.289 phone. But at least there's a story told in it, 00:24:53.309 --> 00:24:55.490 and it's not just, yeah, he went Joker crazy 00:24:55.490 --> 00:24:59.849 and skipped. We should, before we go to the next 00:24:59.849 --> 00:25:04.250 arc. While we talk about Joker crazy, we've got 00:25:04.250 --> 00:25:07.390 some donations to read out. It's not about the 00:25:07.390 --> 00:25:12.430 stream, Batman. It's about the comics. First 00:25:12.430 --> 00:25:16.769 one from Karchuk. Why so ever chosen? A hefty 00:25:16.769 --> 00:25:21.059 20k from Karchuk. Thank you. So sorry, Fancy 00:25:21.059 --> 00:25:23.960 died. It gets five big booms. Boom, boom, boom, 00:25:24.099 --> 00:25:27.200 boom, boom. It's back, and it's better than ever. 00:25:27.240 --> 00:25:28.920 Well, maybe not better than ever, but it's good. 00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:31.319 It's back, and it's passable. It's back, baby. 00:25:31.440 --> 00:25:34.079 Hey, hey, it is good. Fuck off. Don't you mind 00:25:34.079 --> 00:25:37.039 you were safe. Five bucks stream late due to 00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:40.099 Hal gooning to Archeon's horse. Call him Mr. 00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:45.259 Hands. I forgot a Mr. Hands joke. Oh my god. 00:25:45.960 --> 00:25:50.720 Or a green hat or a robe this week. Two -year 00:25:50.720 --> 00:25:53.640 -old. I gave you 12 weeks worth of goddamn hat, 00:25:53.660 --> 00:25:56.339 dog. Look, the Master Chief helmet was a peace 00:25:56.339 --> 00:25:58.279 offering because I forgot the hat again, but 00:25:58.279 --> 00:26:01.220 I had green hat wear. I think the thing is, this 00:26:01.220 --> 00:26:02.960 was sent before you put it, like we had a few 00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:05.700 before we started the stream and so like. I assume, 00:26:05.900 --> 00:26:10.339 I don't see anyone, I assume that the green hat 00:26:10.339 --> 00:26:15.680 requirement has been sated. I will acquire a 00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:18.640 green hat later. This was a peace offering to 00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:21.579 give me another week. And we will see what other 00:26:21.579 --> 00:26:23.640 peace offerings I come up with when I inevitably 00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:29.220 forget. Yeah. Cover Flesh Eater Court Annual 00:26:29.220 --> 00:26:33.160 End World Hunger gave $5. First time super chatting. 00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:35.539 Just wanted to say, love your show. Thank you. 00:26:35.640 --> 00:26:40.000 We love you. Yeah, we love you. Flesh Eater Court's 00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:43.140 fans are oddly like some of the most dedicated 00:26:43.140 --> 00:26:47.980 people. Warhammer army out of nowhere. It is 00:26:47.980 --> 00:26:51.500 not the army I would expect people to go nuts 00:26:51.500 --> 00:26:55.000 over, but you will find no fan more dedicated 00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:58.380 to their army than an FEC player. This donation 00:26:58.380 --> 00:27:03.059 is wild. Thank you, Shane, bro. Thank you. Colin, 00:27:04.059 --> 00:27:08.059 you old Yacoubian ape. Send me... A picture of 00:27:08.059 --> 00:27:11.099 you standing in front of a roller coaster. You 00:27:11.099 --> 00:27:13.660 must be this tall to ride, sign, and your cranial 00:27:13.660 --> 00:27:18.319 measurements. I must study your science. I'm 00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:24.359 5 '7". Crazy. Thank you for the $10. It's been 00:27:24.359 --> 00:27:29.700 4 '5". The ultramarine sergeant is yapping about 00:27:29.700 --> 00:27:31.579 courage and honor, but the noise marine low -key 00:27:31.579 --> 00:27:33.819 digging in your butt, so you hit him with the 00:27:33.819 --> 00:27:39.900 PDF constrip stare. Insane. What the hell are 00:27:39.900 --> 00:27:46.039 these donuts? It didn't click how pathetic the 00:27:46.039 --> 00:27:48.039 Avenging Sons were when we were talking about 00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:52.579 Taros. Until it finalized in my brain that they 00:27:52.579 --> 00:27:55.160 were outsmarted by PDF forces in the opening 00:27:55.160 --> 00:27:59.539 act. Well, it touted most of the thinking. You 00:27:59.539 --> 00:28:02.779 still lost to an army in part consisting of an 00:28:02.779 --> 00:28:07.740 enemy PDF. I don't care. Alright. Ash Fox, thank 00:28:07.740 --> 00:28:10.279 you for the $2 stream late due to Colin gooning 00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:13.039 the Fantasy Lord. I was the second one in this 00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:15.819 call. Yes, he was here on time. Leave him alone. 00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:19.779 They put the Colin into Master Chief. Thank you, 00:28:19.779 --> 00:28:27.500 Donkey Man USA for the two. Nice. What do you 00:28:27.500 --> 00:28:31.529 have for us? Late to stream due to me gooning 00:28:31.529 --> 00:28:34.930 to pregnant Archeon fanart. Well, you learn something 00:28:34.930 --> 00:28:37.250 every day that that exists. That is a sentence. 00:28:37.529 --> 00:28:41.170 Thank you for the $10. That's a box. $10. Thank 00:28:41.170 --> 00:28:45.990 you. Okay. Nerevar, a quick smasher pass. I can't 00:28:45.990 --> 00:28:49.730 do the voice. Felbadon, the 13 times failure 00:28:49.730 --> 00:28:54.069 pass. Archeon, smash. Imperial Fist fans, pass. 00:28:54.809 --> 00:28:57.529 Bellicore, smash. Norskin women, hyper smash. 00:28:58.400 --> 00:29:01.759 The sound effects of the bolters in Darktide. 00:29:01.940 --> 00:29:05.039 Smash. Thank you. When I was in New Orleans, 00:29:05.299 --> 00:29:07.480 I got drunk and started talking like Dagoth. 00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:12.819 I don't know why I did that. Very nice. The Dank 00:29:12.819 --> 00:29:16.119 Apostle. Thank you for the 70s R. What is everyone's 00:29:16.119 --> 00:29:19.140 rare collector's item? I have the Horus Heresy 00:29:19.140 --> 00:29:23.259 Collected version art book, the Lieber Chaotica, 00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:26.200 and the Damocles Golf Edition of the Infantryman's 00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:29.170 Primer. That's pretty cool. I'm from South Africa. 00:29:29.609 --> 00:29:35.630 ZA, by the way. Very cool. Is this only for Warhammer 00:29:35.630 --> 00:29:38.529 or just in general? I've got a piece of the hall 00:29:38.529 --> 00:29:40.650 the Declaration of Independence was signed in. 00:29:41.390 --> 00:29:45.750 Wow. Did you take a bit of it off? No, I did 00:29:45.750 --> 00:29:50.849 not. My grandpa gave it to me. He might have 00:29:50.849 --> 00:29:54.329 taken a piece of it. I don't know. But it's in 00:29:54.329 --> 00:29:57.759 a nice official looking metal tin. so i'm assuming 00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:01.420 it was legally and legitimately acquired it's 00:30:01.420 --> 00:30:03.640 like those guys who go to like wembley stadium 00:30:03.640 --> 00:30:05.460 or like a football pitch and they just they bring 00:30:05.460 --> 00:30:07.519 a trowel and they dig up a bit of soil and say 00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:10.940 oi dude my grandpa had a ton of weird stuff like 00:30:10.940 --> 00:30:13.740 he had like a confederate cavalry saber i think 00:30:13.740 --> 00:30:17.720 wow why do you have that yeah which side would 00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:21.210 be on Well, we live in Illinois, so I'm assuming 00:30:21.210 --> 00:30:23.410 that it was a war trophy somewhere down the line. 00:30:24.829 --> 00:30:28.170 I don't really have any rare Warhammer stuff, 00:30:28.230 --> 00:30:30.369 but probably one of the rare... Maybe the rarest 00:30:30.369 --> 00:30:33.349 thing I have is I have a signed Stan Lee Funker 00:30:33.349 --> 00:30:36.710 Pop, which is from the UK Comic Con, so they 00:30:36.710 --> 00:30:38.809 only made a limited run. I got Stan Lee to sign 00:30:38.809 --> 00:30:41.630 it. So that's probably worth a few pounds. But 00:30:41.630 --> 00:30:45.609 it's not great. Here's a piece of actual American 00:30:45.609 --> 00:30:49.589 history in my house. from my grandpappy that's 00:30:49.589 --> 00:30:52.369 pretty crazy come on i don't know anything that 00:30:52.369 --> 00:30:55.589 nice i have an assassin's creed 3 launch poster 00:30:55.589 --> 00:30:59.049 from comic -con wow it was only a i think i was 00:30:59.049 --> 00:31:03.670 only about 500 of them wow i have a lot of old 00:31:03.670 --> 00:31:06.549 warhammer i have an old metal rune priest terminator 00:31:06.549 --> 00:31:10.309 i have an old metal yeah uh kalidus assassin 00:31:10.309 --> 00:31:14.210 i have a bunch of stuff like that nice i have 00:31:14.210 --> 00:31:16.970 my own sheet right here Old fruit shaper. I have 00:31:16.970 --> 00:31:21.950 a Vaughan nowadays. Morathi's designated toilet. 00:31:22.269 --> 00:31:26.349 I mean, that's a Colin one. Greetings from IRL 00:31:26.349 --> 00:31:29.269 Bretonnia. Happy birthday, Colin. Now, is that 00:31:29.269 --> 00:31:33.450 France or the UK? It's from Canada. It's Canadian. 00:31:33.789 --> 00:31:39.819 CA. Come on. Is Bretonnia Canadian? Canada is 00:31:39.819 --> 00:31:43.140 French America, let's be honest. We have one 00:31:43.140 --> 00:31:47.200 province that has French people in it. And they 00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:51.240 are rabid. We're a multilingual country because 00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:53.799 of that single province. I have this old metal 00:31:53.799 --> 00:32:01.640 rattling. Wow. There he is. Nice. That is mini. 00:32:02.700 --> 00:32:07.529 Mini. Angry homunculus for two pounds. Have to 00:32:07.529 --> 00:32:09.450 divide my attention between this and my cat. 00:32:09.690 --> 00:32:14.490 Just eat the cat. Don't eat the cat. Pet the 00:32:14.490 --> 00:32:19.990 cat. Pet the cat. Richard Gaming for five bucks. 00:32:20.289 --> 00:32:22.769 First time Dono. Been listening the last few 00:32:22.769 --> 00:32:24.910 months. Really enjoying it. Here's some dollars 00:32:24.910 --> 00:32:28.269 for helping me kick off a vacation. Hell yeah, 00:32:28.309 --> 00:32:30.809 man. Enjoy yourself. Everyone needs a break. 00:32:31.450 --> 00:32:34.569 Recharge those batteries. Shalaxy's wettest gripper 00:32:34.569 --> 00:32:39.390 is back. NCA. Did you know Cain was born with 00:32:39.390 --> 00:32:44.009 his humongous orbs fully dropped? Using his raging 00:32:44.009 --> 00:32:46.970 testosterone supply, he tortures Cetra endlessly, 00:32:47.289 --> 00:32:50.309 biting at limb, ear, and lips alike. Luckily, 00:32:50.430 --> 00:32:56.650 they are my cats. Crazy. XOXO. They're all from 00:32:56.650 --> 00:33:05.539 Canada. Pretty much, yeah. The chat is very mad 00:33:05.539 --> 00:33:07.880 that you've called Canada French and Bretonnian. 00:33:08.500 --> 00:33:13.059 I'm there with you guys. Andy, they're on you. 00:33:15.740 --> 00:33:17.700 Conrad's number one stand. Thank you for the 00:33:17.700 --> 00:33:22.059 $5. It's a 50 -50 that you're a crazy lady in 00:33:22.059 --> 00:33:25.930 real life. We always attribute... cadia to abaddon 00:33:25.930 --> 00:33:28.930 and the end time cdw because without author favoritism 00:33:28.930 --> 00:33:31.869 abaddon still wins archeon can't even get out 00:33:31.869 --> 00:33:35.190 of norsca sheesh it's a it's a real message right 00:33:35.190 --> 00:33:40.809 there bless your soul wow that guy oh that go 00:33:40.809 --> 00:33:43.349 for it thank you two bucks he controls zinch 00:33:43.349 --> 00:33:55.019 gifts too yes They'd make you pancreas snow would 00:33:55.019 --> 00:33:58.039 work. It's supposed to be pancreas now work. 00:33:58.619 --> 00:34:01.980 You didn't capitalize the N and no. That's why 00:34:01.980 --> 00:34:04.160 I was very confused. I was like, pancreas snow 00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:09.340 would work? It would work. Thank you guys for 00:34:09.340 --> 00:34:12.119 the donos. We might have to have a pause on them. 00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:17.739 There's so many. Thank you guys. Swedish Dunedin. 00:34:19.539 --> 00:34:24.030 200 sec. First time donor, long time listener. 00:34:24.210 --> 00:34:27.590 Love you guys and the podcast. You are all wrong 00:34:27.590 --> 00:34:29.829 about Nick Kine and the Salamander books, though. 00:34:30.110 --> 00:34:33.429 As I am partial to the Salamander, as Colin is 00:34:33.429 --> 00:34:37.050 to the Eldar. Absolutely. Do I care? Not at all. 00:34:37.610 --> 00:34:39.650 It's okay to have my opinions. World's first 00:34:39.650 --> 00:34:43.210 Nick Kine defender. We appreciate your presence 00:34:43.210 --> 00:34:47.829 and your donation. Thank you. John Apocalypse 00:34:47.829 --> 00:34:52.139 for two. Small Soldiers turned 27 yesterday. 00:34:52.739 --> 00:34:55.980 Thoughts on film? I have not seen it. Small Soldier 00:34:55.980 --> 00:34:59.460 is the name of Caesar's theme from JoJo's Bizarre 00:34:59.460 --> 00:35:02.659 Adventure. Is that the one with Colonel Havoc? 00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:06.119 These toys get possessed and they fight another 00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:08.559 band of toys who are mutated monsters, but the 00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:12.380 monsters are the good guys. Or is that Toy Soldiers? 00:35:13.059 --> 00:35:16.179 That's the thing. I think it's Small Soldiers. 00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:19.360 Greetings, I am so -and -so of the Argonites. 00:35:20.179 --> 00:35:23.760 And they put one in the garbage disposal sink, 00:35:23.900 --> 00:35:26.119 and it grinds up his legs, and he's like, Sarge, 00:35:26.119 --> 00:35:27.960 I'm dying! You're like, wow, this is a kid's 00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:34.320 film. Amazing. Michael Gilardi. Guys, new army 00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:38.639 for AOS revealing on the 18th. Let's go! Kazakan, 00:35:38.860 --> 00:35:43.340 Kazakashut. I don't know what any of these words 00:35:43.340 --> 00:35:45.599 mean. I appreciate the Italian. Also, Tolan always 00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:48.619 right. I'll say Colin's always right when it 00:35:48.619 --> 00:35:52.960 comes to Bretonnia. Huge, huge, huge. Donkey 00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:55.900 Mania this day. Five bucks. The Great Horned 00:35:55.900 --> 00:35:58.199 Omni -Sci is going to cost me far more than I 00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:02.980 thought. Aren't you almost done by now? He must 00:36:02.980 --> 00:36:05.840 be, surely. Little do we know, he's giving it 00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:09.340 Titan legs. Almost there, guys. I think we've 00:36:09.340 --> 00:36:14.070 got to get three more. Thank you very much. The 00:36:14.070 --> 00:36:16.469 Dank Apostle. Thank you for the 14. I almost 00:36:16.469 --> 00:36:19.369 forgot I have a metal Samael unjet bike. That's 00:36:19.369 --> 00:36:23.369 so freaking cool. I am jealous. Or as I like 00:36:23.369 --> 00:36:26.010 to call it, how to convert Corsaro Khan on a 00:36:26.010 --> 00:36:32.650 bike. Coolest Space Marine models in the entire 00:36:32.650 --> 00:36:36.110 city. Hands down. And Space Wolves. Mr. Green 00:36:36.110 --> 00:36:38.849 Hat again does say the Masked Chief Hat is baked. 00:36:38.989 --> 00:36:41.329 Another week. Alright, thank you, thank you. 00:36:41.650 --> 00:36:46.360 Nice. And last, Bean. Thank you, Bean. A Dwarf 00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:50.619 Slayer has hit the scheme plan. Wow. Thank you 00:36:50.619 --> 00:36:53.679 all for those. Thank you very much. Thank you. 00:36:53.860 --> 00:36:58.980 There's been a second Bone Ripper. So, Dietrich 00:36:58.980 --> 00:37:02.039 Kastner has officially left the Empire. Yeah, 00:37:02.039 --> 00:37:07.940 he's out. He's going up north. So, in order to 00:37:07.940 --> 00:37:11.480 become the proper Everchosen, he has... Some 00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:14.619 treasure hunting to do. For just about a hundred 00:37:14.619 --> 00:37:16.739 years, in fact, he's going to be looking for 00:37:16.739 --> 00:37:20.539 these treasures. They are, of course, the... 00:37:20.539 --> 00:37:24.480 I mean, they're called the Six Treasures of Chaos. 00:37:24.940 --> 00:37:28.539 Total War Quest. Total War Quest for at least 00:37:28.539 --> 00:37:33.360 one of them, a couple of them. So, off to the 00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:36.300 Chaos Waste he goes. There's six of them in total, 00:37:36.420 --> 00:37:40.780 and the first of them... is a mark of chaos that 00:37:40.780 --> 00:37:43.579 bears the blessing of all of the Runa's powers 00:37:43.579 --> 00:37:48.360 at once. It gives them basically the power of 00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:50.519 whatever blessing of each chaos god the mark 00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:53.079 gives. So it makes them a good wizard. You know, 00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:54.619 it probably makes them be able to thought and 00:37:54.619 --> 00:37:57.000 scheme and plan better. Makes them resilient 00:37:57.000 --> 00:38:01.679 and tanky. Makes them bloodthirsty. Something, 00:38:01.820 --> 00:38:05.820 something. Sex jokes on Eshmark. Exciting guys. 00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:09.469 Yeah. The Everchosen. He's off to there, and 00:38:09.469 --> 00:38:11.269 for this first part of the quest, he's going 00:38:11.269 --> 00:38:15.889 to Naggaroth to something called the Altar of 00:38:15.889 --> 00:38:20.409 Ultimate Darkness. That's a Total War quest that 00:38:20.409 --> 00:38:23.530 I recognize. It is, yeah. I don't remember if... 00:38:23.530 --> 00:38:26.309 Does Archeon do it, though? I know that it exists 00:38:26.309 --> 00:38:30.989 in something. I can't remember if Archeon's quest 00:38:30.989 --> 00:38:33.369 does take him there for getting that, or if... 00:38:34.059 --> 00:38:36.800 some other Dark Elf characters, like item quests. 00:38:36.820 --> 00:38:39.239 Might also just be a location on the map. No, 00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:41.900 it is a location on the map. I swear there is 00:38:41.900 --> 00:38:44.340 a quest right there for a certain character. 00:38:44.500 --> 00:38:45.920 I just don't remember if it's Archeon or not. 00:38:46.500 --> 00:38:48.639 But at least in the lore, Archeon does go there 00:38:48.639 --> 00:38:55.480 to get that unique mark. So the Swords of Chaos 00:38:55.480 --> 00:38:58.360 tag along with them, and they fight their way 00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:03.409 to the Citadel, where it is... said to be blacker 00:39:03.409 --> 00:39:06.250 than even the heart of a dark elf soul, which 00:39:06.250 --> 00:39:11.530 is just fun. Wow. But undeterred, Archeon, he's 00:39:11.530 --> 00:39:14.150 committed. He's not going to back down from some 00:39:14.150 --> 00:39:19.650 spooky darkness. And he continues forward. These 00:39:19.650 --> 00:39:22.429 weird, monstrous creatures that are just living 00:39:22.429 --> 00:39:27.050 here start attacking him and his band. His horse, 00:39:27.170 --> 00:39:29.369 which, mind you, this is that same horse he still 00:39:29.369 --> 00:39:34.039 had. Oberon was its name. is killed by the creatures, 00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:37.219 and this is kind of his last thread connecting 00:39:37.219 --> 00:39:43.000 him to humanity because it was his steed from 00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:45.820 when he was a knight. God, it's like a never 00:39:45.820 --> 00:39:50.840 -ending story all over again. Colin has probably 00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:54.019 not seen that movie. Correct. Well, it's really 00:39:54.019 --> 00:39:56.320 sad, Nick, because the main character in his 00:39:56.320 --> 00:39:59.900 quest thing, the horse gets stuck in mud and 00:39:59.900 --> 00:40:05.119 it just slowly drowns. my kids movie my my cousin 00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:07.199 watched that film at cinemas because he's he's 00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:09.679 a fair bit older than me and he cried and he 00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:11.480 had to be taken out because like you literally 00:40:11.480 --> 00:40:15.000 the main character can't and it's like it's like 00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:17.659 in a pool of tar and it's slowly sinking he's 00:40:17.659 --> 00:40:23.900 like and then you just see like bubbles where 00:40:23.900 --> 00:40:26.639 it where its head was and you're like oh jesus 00:40:26.639 --> 00:40:29.039 really traumatizing because the kid is great 00:40:29.550 --> 00:40:31.949 The main character is only a teenager. He's trying 00:40:31.949 --> 00:40:34.889 to get the horse out the entire time. Yelling 00:40:34.889 --> 00:40:37.829 and crying. It just sinks slowly. Films from 00:40:37.829 --> 00:40:39.610 the 80s and stuff were built differently. They 00:40:39.610 --> 00:40:43.329 had Watership Down with the bunny general who's 00:40:43.329 --> 00:40:46.610 eating the other rabbits. It's an animated film 00:40:46.610 --> 00:40:51.610 about rabbits. Meanwhile, it's like, oh, this 00:40:51.610 --> 00:40:54.449 is extremely gory for a kids' film. Some core 00:40:54.449 --> 00:41:00.739 memories for some older gents. Yeah. So that 00:41:00.739 --> 00:41:03.820 sends him off, though. And he just starts slaughtering 00:41:03.820 --> 00:41:06.980 his way through all of the weird, gross things 00:41:06.980 --> 00:41:12.860 that live in this place. And after several hours 00:41:12.860 --> 00:41:15.340 of this constant murder, he's killed hundreds 00:41:15.340 --> 00:41:19.000 of them. His sword art is numb. The rooms have 00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:21.920 been repainted a nice fresh coat of red. And 00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:26.380 he offers their hearts up at the altar. He reconsecrates 00:41:26.380 --> 00:41:29.960 it to the gods of chaos. And when he comes out, 00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:33.000 he has the eternally burning mark of chaos on 00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:37.619 his forehead. So he's gift one. And this already 00:41:37.619 --> 00:41:41.320 probably puts him up in like the top 1 % strongest 00:41:41.320 --> 00:41:43.559 characters in the setting. Because all four chaos 00:41:43.559 --> 00:41:47.800 gods have gone. You are the man. I like this 00:41:47.800 --> 00:41:50.460 guy. This guy's pretty swell. Except the chaos 00:41:50.460 --> 00:41:57.280 gods. So the next artifact. is the armor of Morkar, 00:41:57.440 --> 00:41:59.500 which was the armor of the very first ever Chosen 00:41:59.500 --> 00:42:02.840 War. Makes you pretty much invulnerable to every 00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:06.079 attack. Like, if you don't have named character 00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:08.659 -grade magic weapons, you're not putting a dent 00:42:08.659 --> 00:42:13.179 in him. And aside from that, it's the armor of 00:42:13.179 --> 00:42:15.440 the first ever Chosen. It's a very fitting thing 00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:19.139 to wear. So he leaves Naggaroth and heads on 00:42:19.139 --> 00:42:25.320 his way to go get this next Gubbin. to a land 00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:31.619 of weird half -human tribal things that had never... 00:42:31.619 --> 00:42:34.380 The sun or the moon had never risen above them. 00:42:35.579 --> 00:42:37.860 It's a really just kind of gross, out -of -the 00:42:37.860 --> 00:42:44.119 -way place. But after about a week of just constantly 00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:49.780 attacking them, their city that they had is reduced 00:42:49.780 --> 00:42:52.989 to nothing but ash and ruin. and Archeon delves 00:42:52.989 --> 00:42:55.369 into the necropolis of Morkar until he finds 00:42:55.369 --> 00:42:59.289 it. He finds it, and then the spirit of Morkar 00:42:59.289 --> 00:43:03.389 inhabits it and starts trying to kill him. It's 00:43:03.389 --> 00:43:07.570 kind of beating his ass for a good while until, 00:43:07.730 --> 00:43:10.750 in a last little bit of desperation, which might 00:43:10.750 --> 00:43:12.889 have had some Zeej inspiration, he's got that 00:43:12.889 --> 00:43:16.070 mark now, he shouts out in the spirit of the 00:43:16.070 --> 00:43:21.480 Unbarogan tribe, Sigmar's original crew. and 00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:24.900 it stuns Morkar for a moment, and Archeon smashes 00:43:24.900 --> 00:43:28.340 the possessed armor aside, which banishes the 00:43:28.340 --> 00:43:34.539 spirit, and now he can have it. After this, there 00:43:34.539 --> 00:43:38.800 is the Eye of Shirin, which I keep the Eye of 00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:42.360 Ed Shirin every single time that thought pops 00:43:42.360 --> 00:43:45.760 in my head. Named after the Zeechian sorcerer 00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:49.599 who found it. On its own, it's... It's a very 00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:52.119 powerful chaos artifact. It lets you be able 00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:54.699 to see the future. When combined with another 00:43:54.699 --> 00:43:59.360 artifact he'll get later on, it lets you see 00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:01.440 the enemy's attacks and predict and avoid them 00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:04.900 mid -combat. So it's both a future -seeing device 00:44:04.900 --> 00:44:08.780 and ultra -instinct, all rolled into one. Abaddon's 00:44:08.780 --> 00:44:11.500 really building the most OP PvP build he can 00:44:11.500 --> 00:44:14.659 imagine. Yeah, that's cool. Whatever powers you 00:44:14.659 --> 00:44:19.650 got, I can block every attack. I guess he didn't 00:44:19.650 --> 00:44:22.349 lose any fights in canon, did he? Well, up until 00:44:22.349 --> 00:44:24.630 the end times, he didn't lose, and even then, 00:44:24.650 --> 00:44:31.849 he won overall. Yeah. But, after, so, you know, 00:44:31.849 --> 00:44:34.670 he goes to find it, which, at the time, it was 00:44:34.670 --> 00:44:37.829 in the lair of a chaos dragon named Flame Fang, 00:44:38.130 --> 00:44:40.889 who, he loved the eye more than the rest of his 00:44:40.889 --> 00:44:43.369 massive pile of treasures, and he was a dragon, 00:44:43.409 --> 00:44:48.809 he's got quite the pile. So, Archeon starts the 00:44:48.809 --> 00:44:51.710 fight by bashing the dragon in the head, and 00:44:51.710 --> 00:44:55.389 then they start fighting. At one point, Archeon 00:44:55.389 --> 00:44:59.329 was swallowed whole, but the armor protected 00:44:59.329 --> 00:45:02.929 him from the dragon's stomach. So he hacked his 00:45:02.929 --> 00:45:06.150 way out until eventually the dragon's throats 00:45:06.150 --> 00:45:09.590 and inside was just reduced to nothing but so 00:45:09.590 --> 00:45:14.110 much ground pork. And he plucked the eye from 00:45:14.110 --> 00:45:17.929 its stomach and hung it around his neck. Splendid. 00:45:18.010 --> 00:45:20.670 I'm going to move for some crispy pork belly. 00:45:21.070 --> 00:45:26.869 Sounds pretty nice. I'm hungry now. I haven't 00:45:26.869 --> 00:45:31.570 eaten today. Put a whole brisket down my throat, 00:45:31.670 --> 00:45:36.050 please. The horrid gif I need to find, but we'll 00:45:36.050 --> 00:45:40.769 save that for later. Anyways, three down, three 00:45:40.769 --> 00:45:48.039 to go. Wait, three? Yeah, three. Pardon me. There's 00:45:48.039 --> 00:45:51.559 the next treasure, because he's not getting the 00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:53.780 one that goes with the eye quite yet. The next 00:45:53.780 --> 00:45:58.260 treasure is not a thing or a mark, but his horsey, 00:45:58.260 --> 00:46:02.179 Dorgar, who has the following alternative names. 00:46:02.900 --> 00:46:06.760 Steed of the Apocalypse, which is valid. Rontali. 00:46:08.059 --> 00:46:10.980 Don't quite get that one. It's all Italian -ish. 00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:21.030 Gershihishfak. What did you call me? I don't 00:46:21.030 --> 00:46:25.670 know. He's a flaming stallion, isn't he? He's 00:46:25.670 --> 00:46:28.090 literally on fire. Yeah, he's a flaming stallion, 00:46:28.090 --> 00:46:30.730 and then in Age of Sigmar, he's a... I don't 00:46:30.730 --> 00:46:32.250 even know what I'm looking at, but we'll get 00:46:32.250 --> 00:46:39.030 to that later. This demonic steed was in the... 00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:45.659 Stable. I forgot the word stable. Pardon me. 00:46:46.119 --> 00:46:50.500 In the lair of a demon prince known as Aggramon. 00:46:51.340 --> 00:46:54.380 Which I can't tell if that's supposed to be Agamemnon 00:46:54.380 --> 00:46:58.619 or a Pokemon. Agamon. Digivolve too. Something 00:46:58.619 --> 00:47:02.059 else that I've forgotten what it is. He fights 00:47:02.059 --> 00:47:05.239 his way into the edge of the palace and then 00:47:05.239 --> 00:47:09.340 sneaks inside by assassins creeding and hiding 00:47:09.340 --> 00:47:13.510 under this demonic steed. Not Dorgar, a different 00:47:13.510 --> 00:47:16.969 one that was part bug, part person, all parts 00:47:16.969 --> 00:47:24.869 awful. And he finds Dorgar by the smell of sulfur 00:47:24.869 --> 00:47:29.269 that the horse apparently emanates. Initially, 00:47:29.869 --> 00:47:33.070 it was just... There was nothing too special 00:47:33.070 --> 00:47:36.670 about Dorgar. But when he popped on its back... 00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:41.039 It changed shape into its full, like, massive 00:47:41.039 --> 00:47:44.280 -sized, lit itself on fire, and started running 00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:46.079 around all over the place trying to buck him 00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:48.920 off. But Archeon tamed it, and together they 00:47:48.920 --> 00:47:51.039 got out of the Realm of Chaos, because this little 00:47:51.039 --> 00:47:53.800 bit was in hell. Every time I've thought about 00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:56.820 this part of the lore, I'm just like, is his 00:47:56.820 --> 00:48:00.820 nutsack not just been fried? He's in the armor. 00:48:01.340 --> 00:48:04.260 Yeah, he's got the armor of Morkar. But surely 00:48:04.260 --> 00:48:06.619 he's sweating. I mean, that's the thing with, 00:48:06.679 --> 00:48:09.179 like... everyone learning to ride a horse isn't 00:48:09.179 --> 00:48:10.760 one of the first things they teach you to sway 00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:13.739 with the horse. Because otherwise, when it trots 00:48:13.739 --> 00:48:16.139 up and down, you don't go with it. And then when 00:48:16.139 --> 00:48:19.139 it comes back up, it's like, bam, bam, bam. I 00:48:19.139 --> 00:48:24.260 just like how the horse, his test was like, if 00:48:24.260 --> 00:48:27.300 you don't accept me at my smelly worst, you don't 00:48:27.300 --> 00:48:29.860 deserve me at my flamey best. Like, oh, that's 00:48:29.860 --> 00:48:33.960 a fun quirk for a horse. It is a poison attack. 00:48:34.119 --> 00:48:41.480 D3 mortal wounds. Horse fart. The second to last 00:48:41.480 --> 00:48:44.699 artifact he needs is, of course, the Slayer of 00:48:44.699 --> 00:48:46.280 Kings, which, for those of you who don't know, 00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:48.760 is a real -life blade they give to really good 00:48:48.760 --> 00:48:52.840 painters. I think the people who win a Golden 00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:57.699 Demon get the Slayer of Kings. It was the sacred 00:48:57.699 --> 00:49:00.119 blade of the second ever chosen, whose name is 00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:02.239 Van Gogh, and I think the only time he's ever 00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:08.340 brought up might be this lore. But, again, it's 00:49:08.340 --> 00:49:10.179 the Blade of an Everchosen that has a greater 00:49:10.179 --> 00:49:13.960 demon called Uzul bound into it, which had been 00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:16.219 imprisoned for thousands of years and had gone 00:49:16.219 --> 00:49:27.059 completely mad with rage ever since then. I'm 00:49:27.059 --> 00:49:29.039 trying to think if this is the hardest quest 00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:32.440 or not. It's definitely a problematic quest, 00:49:32.539 --> 00:49:37.050 though. He journeys to where it's located. to 00:49:37.050 --> 00:49:40.949 what is known as Chimera Plateau. Plateau, however 00:49:40.949 --> 00:49:43.750 you say that. And he had gathered a big horde 00:49:43.750 --> 00:49:46.590 of followers to wage war against all of the chimeras 00:49:46.590 --> 00:49:49.110 and the other creatures guarding this massive 00:49:49.110 --> 00:49:52.650 mountain. And eventually Archeon and three of 00:49:52.650 --> 00:49:55.469 his companions climb their way to the top of 00:49:55.469 --> 00:49:58.150 the plateau. Archeon looks down across the rest 00:49:58.150 --> 00:50:00.190 of the world, swears he's going to be in charge 00:50:00.190 --> 00:50:03.869 of it. And then the mountain turns over on its 00:50:03.869 --> 00:50:08.719 side. I love this part. It was realized that 00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:12.079 I'm not on top of a mountain. I'm on top of the 00:50:12.079 --> 00:50:15.280 father of the dragon ogre race, known as Krakenrock 00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:18.760 the Black, who spends all of his time sleeping 00:50:18.760 --> 00:50:21.400 because basically it's too much energy to be 00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:27.059 awake because he is the size of a mountain. He's 00:50:27.059 --> 00:50:32.940 sloth -maxing. Yeah. And I guess the best comparison 00:50:32.940 --> 00:50:35.320 I can think of is Kolek, who is a legendary Total 00:50:35.320 --> 00:50:41.300 Warhammer. He's like the size of a mansion. His 00:50:41.300 --> 00:50:45.059 dad is the entire community. His dad is the whole 00:50:45.059 --> 00:50:49.539 suburb. His dad is the suburb. You versus the 00:50:49.539 --> 00:50:52.300 guy they tell you not to worry about. The definition 00:50:52.300 --> 00:51:02.190 of that. So the problem here is big dragon monster 00:51:02.190 --> 00:51:07.030 thing. So he realizes that I'm the Everchosen 00:51:07.030 --> 00:51:09.949 of Chaos. Even I'm not cut out for this nonsense. 00:51:10.210 --> 00:51:13.190 No thank you. So him and his companions, they 00:51:13.190 --> 00:51:16.789 try and sneak past the monster only to find out 00:51:16.789 --> 00:51:18.889 that the Slayer of Kings, he's like sleeping 00:51:18.889 --> 00:51:27.809 holding it. Oh my god. So... Archeon, one of 00:51:27.809 --> 00:51:31.429 his followers, was a cornate beastman, a princely 00:51:31.429 --> 00:51:38.010 beastman, named Ograx the Great. And priestly 00:51:38.010 --> 00:51:41.309 is important, remember. He's the strongest of 00:51:41.309 --> 00:51:43.190 the eyes Archeon brought with, so he's like, 00:51:43.289 --> 00:51:47.309 okay, just lift one of his fingers up just enough 00:51:47.309 --> 00:51:50.150 that I can go in and grab the sword, which the 00:51:50.150 --> 00:51:53.909 beastman is just barely able to do. But then 00:51:53.909 --> 00:51:56.070 the demon inside the sword starts shrieking. 00:51:56.150 --> 00:51:59.550 Just like... Anytime someone touches it, it just 00:51:59.550 --> 00:52:01.630 goes like, ah, fuck! Stranger danger! Stranger 00:52:01.630 --> 00:52:05.829 danger! I need an adult! Yeah. King of the hill, 00:52:05.889 --> 00:52:11.070 that's my purse. I don't know you! Just imagining 00:52:11.070 --> 00:52:14.949 Zach from Smiling Friends, just his kind of... 00:52:14.949 --> 00:52:18.190 Yeah, that kind of voice would be amazing if 00:52:18.190 --> 00:52:20.949 that's what it sounded like. Uh, there's no reason 00:52:20.949 --> 00:52:25.150 we can't assume it sounds like that. Uh, and 00:52:25.150 --> 00:52:28.070 that starts waking up Krakenrock, and Arcad's 00:52:28.070 --> 00:52:31.230 like, I really do not want to deal with this, 00:52:31.289 --> 00:52:33.550 can't deal with it, what do I do? Stabs Prince 00:52:33.550 --> 00:52:38.210 Ogrex in the chest. To make it silent. Yeah, 00:52:38.389 --> 00:52:42.309 to shut it up. He's screaming into the echoes 00:52:42.309 --> 00:52:46.239 of his corpse. Yeah. Which... does shut the sword 00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:48.519 up because it's the Slayer of Kings. After all, 00:52:48.519 --> 00:52:52.380 he was a Prince of the Beastmen. That was close 00:52:52.380 --> 00:52:55.639 enough for the blade to shut up. And so he sheathed 00:52:55.639 --> 00:52:58.400 it. All of his surviving followers, they cheer 00:52:58.400 --> 00:53:01.900 him on, shout in his name, and it is off to get 00:53:01.900 --> 00:53:04.940 the last artifact, the sixth one. To be fair, 00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:09.179 if your leader... just shanked his most loyal 00:53:09.179 --> 00:53:11.340 lieutenant. The rest of us were all like, yeah, 00:53:11.460 --> 00:53:15.039 man, yeah, you do. Because I'm like, fuck it 00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:20.000 now. Do it to me, please. I hate my boss. Yes! 00:53:22.300 --> 00:53:27.139 So, here's the next one. And I don't, the timeline 00:53:27.139 --> 00:53:29.659 is it takes roughly 100 years for all this, right? 00:53:30.619 --> 00:53:34.079 But most of that time was spent looking for the 00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:37.679 Crown of Dominion, the last artifact. it once 00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:39.739 had the Eye of Shurian in it, but it had been 00:53:39.739 --> 00:53:44.039 lost to history, and he just had to find it. 00:53:45.219 --> 00:53:48.960 And that took him most of the decades he was 00:53:48.960 --> 00:53:51.900 out and about doing all this questing. And most 00:53:51.900 --> 00:53:53.980 of this is in the Chaos Waste as well, isn't 00:53:53.980 --> 00:53:57.659 it? So he's half between reality and half in... 00:53:58.280 --> 00:54:00.960 the Realm of Chaos. Yeah, he's like, there's 00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:02.480 the occasional, like, you know, the first one 00:54:02.480 --> 00:54:05.039 was in Naggaroth and Dark Elf Lands, but the 00:54:05.039 --> 00:54:07.519 rest of it is like, he's walking all over Norsca, 00:54:07.639 --> 00:54:10.219 he's walking over the Chaos Wastes. For Dorgor, 00:54:10.239 --> 00:54:14.360 he went into the Realm of Chaos. He's going all 00:54:14.360 --> 00:54:16.699 over the place, and it took him forever to find 00:54:16.699 --> 00:54:21.360 this. For clarification, at this point, no one 00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:24.000 else really knows that, I guess, there's like 00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:27.070 an ever -chosen kind of out there. No. Obviously 00:54:27.070 --> 00:54:28.869 his followers know what's coming. And of course 00:54:28.869 --> 00:54:31.190 the chaos gods and plenty of demons are aware, 00:54:31.329 --> 00:54:35.670 but down South, they, they don't really know. 00:54:35.769 --> 00:54:38.369 Although reading the winds of magic supplement 00:54:38.369 --> 00:54:41.630 for a Warhammer fantasy role play, the poor old 00:54:41.630 --> 00:54:44.150 wind of the heavens colleges knew what was coming 00:54:44.150 --> 00:54:49.420 about 200 years in advance. Oh no. Everyone's 00:54:49.420 --> 00:54:51.760 just listening like, he's on a gap century. It's 00:54:51.760 --> 00:54:54.480 fine. No, seriously. It's almost too much prep, 00:54:54.599 --> 00:55:01.440 though. Yeah. Go ahead. Oh, no, you go. Sorry. 00:55:01.699 --> 00:55:05.440 It's like when something is like, what's the 00:55:05.440 --> 00:55:07.380 book? It's like the three -body problem. When 00:55:07.380 --> 00:55:09.980 there's a thing of like, by the way, the aliens 00:55:09.980 --> 00:55:12.199 are coming in about, was it a couple hundred 00:55:12.199 --> 00:55:16.340 years? It's like, well, shit. If humans have 00:55:16.340 --> 00:55:18.519 been to prepare for something for that, so far 00:55:18.519 --> 00:55:21.619 in advance like people don't often do very well 00:55:21.619 --> 00:55:23.300 with it because then there's like it's lifetimes 00:55:23.300 --> 00:55:25.760 beyond what the people who are doing it you know 00:55:25.760 --> 00:55:28.800 is that not my problem it's not my kid's problem 00:55:28.800 --> 00:55:30.900 it's not my grandkids problem and then i'm dead 00:55:30.900 --> 00:55:33.219 so or it's or it is or it's like the housing 00:55:33.219 --> 00:55:35.760 crisis it's like it is my kid's problem but i'll 00:55:35.760 --> 00:55:42.340 be gone so i don't care in that book it's like 00:55:42.340 --> 00:55:45.039 when in that version of it like they have a few 00:55:45.039 --> 00:55:47.039 hundred years to play with so in the beginning 00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:49.179 they start prepping and there's like a phase 00:55:49.179 --> 00:55:51.760 in the middle where like humanity goes through 00:55:51.760 --> 00:55:54.179 an era of like maybe it's not really happening 00:55:54.179 --> 00:55:56.420 so i think so i imagine it's a similar thing 00:55:56.420 --> 00:55:58.320 of like they have the prophecies but then people 00:55:58.320 --> 00:56:00.659 are like oh there's so many prophecies and all 00:56:00.659 --> 00:56:03.239 these doom and gloom things a while ago things 00:56:03.239 --> 00:56:05.460 are okay and it's and then one day everything's 00:56:05.460 --> 00:56:08.019 on fire you're like oh quickly everyone prepare 00:56:08.019 --> 00:56:11.719 oh really for what 200 years from now. They don't 00:56:11.719 --> 00:56:13.619 want you to prepare something for 200 years from 00:56:13.619 --> 00:56:17.559 now. People don't think that long term. Also, 00:56:17.559 --> 00:56:20.500 in the one where he's in Naggrond as well, didn't 00:56:20.500 --> 00:56:23.960 they also in terms of interactions, they think 00:56:23.960 --> 00:56:27.679 they fought off a dark elf army? They did fight 00:56:27.679 --> 00:56:31.860 off a dark elf army and he gets help from Valkia 00:56:31.860 --> 00:56:34.699 by sacrificing the heart of the sorceress leading 00:56:34.699 --> 00:56:38.800 the army. yeah i i honestly just kind of forgot 00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:41.039 to mention it because because that happened it 00:56:41.039 --> 00:56:44.480 was really kind of like a like before the temple 00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:47.659 yeah it was before the temple and reading it 00:56:47.659 --> 00:56:49.960 it almost felt like almost like a random encounter 00:56:49.960 --> 00:56:53.000 yeah because it happens near it but then like 00:56:53.000 --> 00:56:55.360 yeah and then eventually they win and they just 00:56:55.360 --> 00:56:59.800 go to the actual place anyway after so yeah i'm 00:56:59.800 --> 00:57:01.820 sure he also killed plenty of other dark elves 00:57:01.820 --> 00:57:05.840 along the way because if No, it's Naggaroth. 00:57:05.960 --> 00:57:11.260 You're going to find dark elves outside. But 00:57:11.260 --> 00:57:15.719 he doesn't technically find the crown of domination. 00:57:16.460 --> 00:57:20.980 Bellacor tells him where it is, hoping that he'll 00:57:20.980 --> 00:57:24.400 be able to steal it after Archeon hopefully dies 00:57:24.400 --> 00:57:29.940 trying to get it. You're saying that a demon 00:57:29.940 --> 00:57:33.679 has ulterior motives. No. I'd say it ain't so. 00:57:34.199 --> 00:57:39.280 No way. Bellicose forever trying to like in his 00:57:39.280 --> 00:57:42.019 background or isn't it in fantasy like he was 00:57:42.019 --> 00:57:46.579 because he was the first person or being to defect 00:57:46.579 --> 00:57:49.159 to chaos. Yeah he was that and he was the first 00:57:49.159 --> 00:57:52.119 like demon prince not only of chaos but of chaos 00:57:52.119 --> 00:57:55.760 undivided. So not an ever chosen but he was in 00:57:55.760 --> 00:57:58.400 a way like filling the prototype of the ever 00:57:58.400 --> 00:58:02.039 chosen position and he kept demanding more and 00:58:02.039 --> 00:58:05.030 more and he wanted that back. he thinks he should 00:58:05.030 --> 00:58:09.449 be the champion of all of chaos and forever like 00:58:09.449 --> 00:58:11.409 it wasn't it like the thing of like each chaos 00:58:11.409 --> 00:58:13.489 god was trying to give him more power so that 00:58:13.489 --> 00:58:16.289 he would battle over like the other one or something 00:58:16.289 --> 00:58:17.730 or like you know they're basically buying his 00:58:17.730 --> 00:58:19.190 affection and then at one point they randomly 00:58:19.190 --> 00:58:22.369 all went what if we all just stop like and then 00:58:22.369 --> 00:58:25.030 he was like oh what if we just make our own why 00:58:25.030 --> 00:58:27.400 are we bothering with this guy yeah they they 00:58:27.400 --> 00:58:30.480 feel like hang on if we start spending power 00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:33.519 or money on this guy we get to keep it and therefore 00:58:33.519 --> 00:58:36.980 he's not he was getting too powerful to the point 00:58:36.980 --> 00:58:39.019 where he'd almost be like a fifth chaos god wasn't 00:58:39.019 --> 00:58:41.500 he i that's yeah like that's depending on like 00:58:41.500 --> 00:58:43.199 what you're reading his goal is either to reclaim 00:58:43.199 --> 00:58:45.539 the position as their favorite or outright become 00:58:45.539 --> 00:58:48.820 the fifth chaos god grand ambitions you can't 00:58:48.820 --> 00:58:50.920 fault the man for having his you know shooting 00:58:50.920 --> 00:58:53.349 for the stars So if people were wondering, like, 00:58:53.349 --> 00:58:55.050 why is Belichor going through all this trouble? 00:58:55.170 --> 00:58:59.389 Essentially, it's he wishes to be where... Well, 00:58:59.469 --> 00:59:02.030 I guess, is he Archeon now, or is he still Diedrich? 00:59:02.170 --> 00:59:04.989 When does he embrace... He's Archeon by this 00:59:04.989 --> 00:59:08.510 point. Yes. Belichor wants to be in the position 00:59:08.510 --> 00:59:12.949 of Archeon, and even more probably than him, 00:59:13.010 --> 00:59:15.250 because Neverchosen is a servant of Chaos, whereas 00:59:15.250 --> 00:59:18.010 Belichor wishes to be more than that. He wishes 00:59:18.010 --> 00:59:20.960 to be the whole, you know, he's not the... You 00:59:20.960 --> 00:59:22.340 know, he's not the number two, he's number one. 00:59:23.039 --> 00:59:27.159 Yeah. So, but Bellacor does, you know, he does 00:59:27.159 --> 00:59:29.559 lead him to this place. There was no trickery 00:59:29.559 --> 00:59:34.579 up to this point. And Archeon didn't die, spoiler 00:59:34.579 --> 00:59:38.239 alert, so there won't be any trickery. But that 00:59:38.239 --> 00:59:40.639 doesn't mean that it's an easy place to go through. 00:59:41.079 --> 00:59:44.420 The gateway, first off, is just this labyrinth 00:59:44.420 --> 00:59:47.380 full of monsters and demons, so he's got to do 00:59:47.380 --> 00:59:51.639 plenty of combat. On the way through, Nurgle 00:59:51.639 --> 00:59:54.500 hits him with every disease he's got in his cookbook 00:59:54.500 --> 00:59:58.300 that Archeon just kind of barely crawls through 00:59:58.300 --> 01:00:02.940 out of sheer willpower. Barely passes that trial, 01:00:03.079 --> 01:00:06.719 but he's back at it after that. Zeech makes a... 01:00:06.719 --> 01:00:11.480 I think he transmutes part of his crystal labyrinth 01:00:11.480 --> 01:00:15.500 over where Archeon's at. Archeon solves that 01:00:15.500 --> 01:00:17.260 by just blindfolding himself because he's like, 01:00:17.360 --> 01:00:20.489 if I try and... look and think my way through 01:00:20.489 --> 01:00:22.489 this madhouse, it's not going to work. So he 01:00:22.489 --> 01:00:25.269 just blindfolds, puts his faith in his instincts 01:00:25.269 --> 01:00:27.389 and maybe the gods, and that sees him through 01:00:27.389 --> 01:00:30.469 Zeech's labyrinth. It's like Rick and Morty where 01:00:30.469 --> 01:00:33.909 they instead of trying to beat the computer machine 01:00:33.909 --> 01:00:36.630 thing, they just have an algorithm where they 01:00:36.630 --> 01:00:40.309 just do random things. Because of all the randomness, 01:00:40.329 --> 01:00:42.210 they slowly are able to get into the right position. 01:00:43.150 --> 01:00:46.429 You can't outsmart Zeech, so just don't even 01:00:46.429 --> 01:00:49.789 play. Yeah, he's just like, I'm not going to 01:00:49.789 --> 01:00:51.570 try. I'm just going to walk and eventually I'll 01:00:51.570 --> 01:00:56.130 be there. Slaanesh, for her part, sends temptation 01:00:56.130 --> 01:00:58.849 after temptation, including popping up in front 01:00:58.849 --> 01:01:04.130 of Archeon herself, which for just about everyone 01:01:04.130 --> 01:01:08.570 else is the lose condition. But Archeon resisted 01:01:08.570 --> 01:01:11.429 the temptation, again, barely, but he made it. 01:01:11.909 --> 01:01:15.170 And he walks on to the inner gates of the shrine. 01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:24.059 And his final test, Scarbrand. Wonderful. I think 01:01:24.059 --> 01:01:27.000 it might also not be Scarbrand. Some of it I've 01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:30.260 read was it's a greater demon. Some of it said 01:01:30.260 --> 01:01:33.780 it was Scarbrand. For the sake of, I just think 01:01:33.780 --> 01:01:35.539 it's fun. I prefer to choose to believe it's 01:01:35.539 --> 01:01:37.320 Scarbrand, but really it could be any greater 01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:39.800 demon. And he does strangle the greater demon 01:01:39.800 --> 01:01:43.139 with its own whip. So it might not be Scarbrand 01:01:43.139 --> 01:01:46.619 because Scarbrand's got two axes. But as much 01:01:46.619 --> 01:01:48.079 as that also does sound like a little bit of 01:01:48.079 --> 01:01:50.679 BS, keep in mind he's got five of the six artifacts 01:01:50.679 --> 01:01:53.380 and the demon in his sword to draw power from. 01:01:53.480 --> 01:01:56.579 So he uses all of those to overcome the demon, 01:01:56.659 --> 01:02:02.280 and he walks up, lifts the crown of dominion, 01:02:02.340 --> 01:02:06.639 all of his wounds heal, and now all he needs 01:02:06.639 --> 01:02:09.900 to do to become the proper Everchosen is be coronated, 01:02:10.039 --> 01:02:14.570 which... is Bellacor's role to forever be cursed 01:02:14.570 --> 01:02:18.670 to crown the next Everchosen. His last scheme 01:02:18.670 --> 01:02:21.429 didn't work. I guess second to last scheme, but 01:02:21.429 --> 01:02:23.690 we haven't gotten to that Godric and Felix book 01:02:23.690 --> 01:02:30.030 yet. And now the final Everchosen has been coronated. 01:02:30.469 --> 01:02:36.329 In a sense, up to this point, people often say, 01:02:36.389 --> 01:02:39.090 oh, it doesn't really sound like he made a choice 01:02:39.090 --> 01:02:41.269 or something, but the fact that he gets through 01:02:41.269 --> 01:02:44.510 all the trials, he actually fully embraces it 01:02:44.510 --> 01:02:46.730 rather than it being like, you know, I'm doing 01:02:46.730 --> 01:02:49.170 it because I'm on all this power and all that 01:02:49.170 --> 01:02:52.070 stuff. He actually, like, he's a proper, you 01:02:52.070 --> 01:02:55.929 know, corrupted being of chaos now. He's in this. 01:02:56.269 --> 01:02:58.170 He is here now. There's another, like, another 01:02:58.170 --> 01:03:01.530 conflicting thing I do want to mention now. It's 01:03:01.530 --> 01:03:04.110 that sometimes... You know that theory where 01:03:04.110 --> 01:03:07.349 in 40k, if you kill everyone ever, the chaos 01:03:07.349 --> 01:03:09.710 gods won't draw sustenance anymore and starve? 01:03:10.690 --> 01:03:14.369 Sometimes he seems to want to do that. Other 01:03:14.369 --> 01:03:18.150 times, it's just, I really want to kill Sigmar. 01:03:18.170 --> 01:03:23.670 I hate that asshole. The way I rationalized it 01:03:23.670 --> 01:03:25.670 in my head, because I often found it was like... 01:03:25.949 --> 01:03:28.510 So his whole shtick was like, I don't want to 01:03:28.510 --> 01:03:30.130 be the Ever Chosen, so I'm going to go to the 01:03:30.130 --> 01:03:32.110 Chaos Wastes and train to be the Ever Chosen. 01:03:32.409 --> 01:03:34.929 It was more like he just hates. He hates everything. 01:03:35.510 --> 01:03:39.650 He hates Sigma. He hates his life. He hates the 01:03:39.650 --> 01:03:42.130 fact that he was forced to do this. So therefore, 01:03:42.269 --> 01:03:45.269 in his way, he has control over one thing, which 01:03:45.269 --> 01:03:48.449 is embracing it. That is the only thing he can 01:03:48.449 --> 01:03:51.489 choose to do. And therefore, if he could kill 01:03:51.489 --> 01:03:54.510 Chaos as well, who often, as much as Sigma... 01:03:54.750 --> 01:03:56.730 put him in this position he would do it as well 01:03:56.730 --> 01:03:59.869 yeah i imagine like that's part of it it could 01:03:59.869 --> 01:04:02.110 and you there's plenty of other ways if you'd 01:04:02.110 --> 01:04:04.429 like to rationalize that it could just be he's 01:04:04.429 --> 01:04:09.409 so fractured by chaos that he's clearly not all 01:04:09.409 --> 01:04:11.809 in the head anymore like no one at this level 01:04:11.809 --> 01:04:15.250 of power is all there anymore yeah chaos itself 01:04:15.250 --> 01:04:20.130 is like it is corrupting doesn't isn't mean Evil 01:04:20.130 --> 01:04:22.670 people are also evil, but you could have a good 01:04:22.670 --> 01:04:24.690 person and then chaos corrupts you and you are 01:04:24.690 --> 01:04:28.750 just fundamentally evil after that. Archeon may 01:04:28.750 --> 01:04:30.949 be built different, but he's not built that different. 01:04:31.130 --> 01:04:33.309 Ah, I got all the chaos off and it didn't affect 01:04:33.309 --> 01:04:37.230 me. It could be. Again, he's trying to just grow 01:04:37.230 --> 01:04:39.690 strong enough through chaos to fight chaos, which 01:04:39.690 --> 01:04:44.110 not too much. A little spoiler towards the end 01:04:44.110 --> 01:04:47.070 of this, but he's getting kind of close in Age 01:04:47.070 --> 01:04:50.519 of Sigmar. What's your canon, do you think, Colin? 01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:54.260 What's your canon, do you think? I kind of think 01:04:54.260 --> 01:04:57.099 he's trying to use chaos to become strong enough 01:04:57.099 --> 01:04:59.860 to kill everything. And again, the first thing 01:04:59.860 --> 01:05:02.179 he did when realizing he fit the Everchosen prophecy 01:05:02.179 --> 01:05:08.119 was hang himself. If he got that strong, I don't 01:05:08.119 --> 01:05:11.139 think it'd be too out of character to take down 01:05:11.139 --> 01:05:14.719 everything in just this mad frenzy and then end 01:05:14.719 --> 01:05:17.780 himself after the fact. So that's kind of... 01:05:17.949 --> 01:05:21.349 what I've always thought. Very nihilistic, isn't 01:05:21.349 --> 01:05:27.750 he? To give it a nicer way, they leave you room 01:05:27.750 --> 01:05:31.949 for your own interpretation. I will put it that 01:05:31.949 --> 01:05:35.929 way because I like to be nicer sometimes. To 01:05:35.929 --> 01:05:39.889 Archeon. Should we read a few more Donos? There's 01:05:39.889 --> 01:05:42.650 been a couple. We've got about nine. We finished 01:05:42.650 --> 01:05:48.360 this saga, this chapter. Colin Willware. Thank 01:05:48.360 --> 01:05:53.760 you for the two. When he tells my mega knob to 01:05:53.760 --> 01:05:59.320 go deeper, but I'm M5 inches. Crazy. Crazy. Insane. 01:05:59.599 --> 01:06:05.340 What a way to start. Ashbox. Revenge for Hal 01:06:05.340 --> 01:06:07.739 bringing up the horse drowning. What do you think 01:06:07.739 --> 01:06:12.139 Sloppity Bar Piper's toes taste like? I'm thinking 01:06:12.139 --> 01:06:15.039 blue cheese. That or parmesan. I'd rather... 01:06:15.559 --> 01:06:19.579 Ignore that message. I'll ignore the context, 01:06:19.639 --> 01:06:21.460 but I'm just going to say it. If you don't like 01:06:21.460 --> 01:06:23.179 blue cheese, you have the palate of a child. 01:06:23.440 --> 01:06:26.099 Yeah, that's real. That's a real call and take 01:06:26.099 --> 01:06:31.559 right there. I love blue cheese. What's your 01:06:31.559 --> 01:06:34.539 opinion on marzipan? I hate marzipan. I don't 01:06:34.539 --> 01:06:36.679 know if I've ever had it. I'm going to be honest. 01:06:36.820 --> 01:06:40.739 I just like cheese. I love cheese. Cheese is 01:06:40.739 --> 01:06:42.900 good, but marzipan gives me headaches. If I ever 01:06:42.900 --> 01:06:45.940 become lactose intolerant, I'm Archeon myself. 01:06:48.179 --> 01:06:50.860 I think mine when I was a kid. Oh, I like marzipan. 01:06:50.860 --> 01:06:53.599 I freaking love that stuff. Normal, just straight 01:06:53.599 --> 01:06:56.480 up broccoli when I was a kid. I just boiled broccoli. 01:06:56.679 --> 01:06:59.139 I didn't like it for some reason. I used to just 01:06:59.139 --> 01:07:02.699 bite lemons. I would just eat lemons as a three 01:07:02.699 --> 01:07:06.559 -year -old. Wow. I don't know. I'm not for anything 01:07:06.559 --> 01:07:09.599 kind of now. Don't you dare, people. I'm for 01:07:09.599 --> 01:07:16.260 anything. Flipped. Flipped. I still don't like 01:07:16.260 --> 01:07:20.039 onions. That's the one childish thing that I've 01:07:20.039 --> 01:07:23.039 kept with. Like raw onion? Or is it like cooked 01:07:23.039 --> 01:07:26.469 onion? Most any onion. Even caramelized onions, 01:07:26.610 --> 01:07:31.469 I'm still not a fan of. I eat my veggies, I eat 01:07:31.469 --> 01:07:34.329 my greens, I love peppers. Now, I just don't 01:07:34.329 --> 01:07:38.190 like onions. That's it. That's the one thing 01:07:38.190 --> 01:07:42.829 I've kept as a kid. Yeah, I know. I just don't 01:07:42.829 --> 01:07:45.730 like onions. Unless it's an onion bro. Hang on, 01:07:45.789 --> 01:07:47.650 I love the onion bros. You can't do that to me. 01:07:49.070 --> 01:07:53.050 Onion night, Dark Souls. Al, do you want this 01:07:53.050 --> 01:07:57.500 one? Angry homunculus, five pounds. The way Archeon 01:07:57.500 --> 01:07:59.739 defeated the spirit of Morkar reminded me of 01:07:59.739 --> 01:08:03.099 Isildur cutting off Sauron's fingers. Kill, maim, 01:08:03.099 --> 01:08:06.239 burn, kill, maim, burn, kill, maim, burn, kill. 01:08:06.360 --> 01:08:08.559 Thank you for using up the rest of your dono 01:08:08.559 --> 01:08:13.400 space. Appreciate it. Cast it into the fire. 01:08:13.880 --> 01:08:16.180 Angry homunculus make a reference to Lord of 01:08:16.180 --> 01:08:20.539 the Rings earlier, I think. This is for you, 01:08:20.579 --> 01:08:23.840 Andy, I think. DonkeyManUSA, Andy and I are both 01:08:23.840 --> 01:08:27.399 wearing wife beaters. Rad. So me and Eli are 01:08:27.399 --> 01:08:31.760 both wearing rather slim vests, shall we say. 01:08:32.199 --> 01:08:35.340 Yours is a muscle chair. It really hasn't gotten 01:08:35.340 --> 01:08:37.859 through the allegations of its name, really. 01:08:38.100 --> 01:08:43.520 I don't think there's undoing that one, I'm going 01:08:43.520 --> 01:08:46.380 to be honest. Easily a label, we need some rebranding. 01:08:48.489 --> 01:08:51.329 You build a hundred bridges. No one calls you 01:08:51.329 --> 01:08:55.630 a bridge builder. You beat your wife once. But 01:08:55.630 --> 01:09:00.250 you burn one bridge. Limper 106, thank you for 01:09:00.250 --> 01:09:03.850 the $2. Archeon outdoing the not -labors of Hercules. 01:09:03.909 --> 01:09:09.579 True. I was about to say more evil than that, 01:09:09.640 --> 01:09:15.579 but Hercules also strangled his wife. Greek mythology 01:09:15.579 --> 01:09:20.939 heroes are not good people. Someone new here, 01:09:21.000 --> 01:09:28.359 Michael Giliardi. Thank you, brother. Here you 01:09:28.359 --> 01:09:32.800 have two bucks for the Eli Egg Fund. Wow. There 01:09:32.800 --> 01:09:34.800 hasn't been an Aegir mission for a while. It's 01:09:34.800 --> 01:09:39.460 been a while. But that will be remembered. Angry 01:09:39.460 --> 01:09:42.060 Homunculus for two pounds. How does that dragon 01:09:42.060 --> 01:09:45.140 compare to the Dragon Emperor? Like the one Archeon 01:09:45.140 --> 01:09:49.619 killed? Like the Force World model? There's not 01:09:49.619 --> 01:09:51.760 too much on the Dragon Emperor. We know he's 01:09:51.760 --> 01:09:56.859 like god -tier power, powerful, but... He doesn't 01:09:56.859 --> 01:10:00.600 really interact with the mortal realm. He's got 01:10:00.600 --> 01:10:05.060 his own emperor plan to hold off chaos, but the 01:10:05.060 --> 01:10:07.500 end times are still canon, as was explicitly 01:10:07.500 --> 01:10:09.880 mentioned by GW when the Old World was first 01:10:09.880 --> 01:10:13.779 revealed. Much like the Webway project, we can 01:10:13.779 --> 01:10:16.600 assume it didn't pan out. I think they could 01:10:16.600 --> 01:10:18.539 just do it. There's supposedly meant to be a 01:10:18.539 --> 01:10:21.819 new timeline -ish thing. Why can't they just 01:10:21.819 --> 01:10:24.619 say there's a new novel where there's a timey 01:10:24.619 --> 01:10:27.619 -wimey whatever. bullshit thing happens and then 01:10:27.619 --> 01:10:29.439 there's like oh this is an alternate timeline 01:10:29.439 --> 01:10:32.359 where the fantasy didn't end they could they 01:10:32.359 --> 01:10:34.739 could so easily just like say this is we're going 01:10:34.739 --> 01:10:37.159 on the storm of chaos timeline it's like it's 01:10:37.159 --> 01:10:39.319 still right there you don't even have to do the 01:10:39.319 --> 01:10:42.039 writing that way it's already there guys you're 01:10:42.039 --> 01:10:44.119 overthinking it all they have to do is do the 01:10:44.119 --> 01:10:47.640 mario 2 thing where mario at the end of the game 01:10:47.640 --> 01:10:50.479 wakes up and goes and it was all a dream and 01:10:50.479 --> 01:10:53.000 then we can have it back a lot of the dream though 01:10:53.000 --> 01:10:56.880 i like youtube sligbar Also from Angry Homunculus. 01:10:57.239 --> 01:11:01.119 Corn's test. You're getting jumped. Yeah, that's... 01:11:01.119 --> 01:11:06.100 I mean, it's corn. There's no surprises for how 01:11:06.100 --> 01:11:09.720 corn is going to test you. And this guy's on 01:11:09.720 --> 01:11:13.800 your case. I still love the last bit. Now, or 01:11:13.800 --> 01:11:18.979 a rope. The five euros. Be afraid of me. I persuaded 01:11:18.979 --> 01:11:21.000 three different artists to draw you pregnant. 01:11:21.199 --> 01:11:25.640 Hashtag drunk. Hashtag JK. Hashtag Slaanesh Feet 01:11:25.640 --> 01:11:29.239 Tongue. Hashtag I'm just filling space here, 01:11:29.340 --> 01:11:33.420 don't mind me. I'm just Drunnel Lamal. Drunnel. 01:11:33.600 --> 01:11:36.920 We love the Drunnel. Plenty of water. Plenty 01:11:36.920 --> 01:11:45.239 of water. Yeah, brain box tomorrow. Fellas, most 01:11:45.239 --> 01:11:48.779 of... Goddammit, I want to play RimWorld now. 01:11:50.619 --> 01:11:54.960 I looked on my Discord, I saw a friend playing 01:11:54.960 --> 01:11:57.079 RimWorld, and I realized the update, like, its 01:11:57.079 --> 01:12:01.819 DLC came out today. Wow. Rim. Yes, I've made 01:12:01.819 --> 01:12:04.159 that joke. There's a mod called RimJobWorld that 01:12:04.159 --> 01:12:06.300 adds sex to the game. This bears nothing on the 01:12:06.300 --> 01:12:08.479 planet, nothing on what we're talking about, 01:12:08.640 --> 01:12:14.039 but... So Arkon has done this. Yeah, Arkon. He 01:12:14.039 --> 01:12:17.850 is the ever -chosen now. Yes. So he gets about 01:12:17.850 --> 01:12:19.750 building his army, which, you know, amongst, 01:12:19.750 --> 01:12:22.210 like, Norskins and, of course, demons and proper 01:12:22.210 --> 01:12:26.270 chaos warriors. And it's called the Inevitable 01:12:26.270 --> 01:12:29.409 Cities, where he's building his fortress before 01:12:29.409 --> 01:12:32.250 the, you know, what do you call it, the end times, 01:12:32.289 --> 01:12:35.289 before that hall begins. They literally stole 01:12:35.289 --> 01:12:38.890 that for the Siege of Terror stuff, by the way. 01:12:39.090 --> 01:12:41.890 It's like the Inevitable and Impossible City 01:12:41.890 --> 01:12:44.550 is literally in the final, is in the end of the 01:12:44.550 --> 01:12:50.260 death stuff. Imagine Rogald Dorn walking through 01:12:50.260 --> 01:12:53.239 the desert like Khorne puts his soul in, and 01:12:53.239 --> 01:12:55.659 he just looks over and is like, that's Archaea. 01:12:56.220 --> 01:12:59.960 What are you doing here? That would be funky. 01:13:00.619 --> 01:13:03.960 What's up, bro? I mean, look, theoretically, 01:13:04.640 --> 01:13:07.600 Kaldor Drago saw the mortal realms and Sigmar 01:13:07.600 --> 01:13:11.699 ruling them. I think that passage was like he 01:13:11.699 --> 01:13:15.479 saw eight realities where the... magic flowed 01:13:15.479 --> 01:13:19.359 as if it was the wind, ruled by a god king. Who 01:13:19.359 --> 01:13:24.180 could that be? And there was Skaven Telecom as 01:13:24.180 --> 01:13:29.420 well, so never forget. But Archeon begins gathering 01:13:29.420 --> 01:13:34.460 his army. His first act against the Empire is 01:13:34.460 --> 01:13:39.020 to crush an Empire dwarf and Kislev force commanded 01:13:39.020 --> 01:13:43.529 by one of the Empire's archlectors. He does that. 01:13:43.550 --> 01:13:46.289 He forces the archlector to become a servant 01:13:46.289 --> 01:13:50.949 of chaos. And now the empire is properly aware, 01:13:51.069 --> 01:13:53.609 aside from those poor celestial wizards who just 01:13:53.609 --> 01:13:55.829 had to live with that knowledge a couple hundred 01:13:55.829 --> 01:13:59.310 years in advance, that chaos is coming and it's 01:13:59.310 --> 01:14:03.430 going to be another big storm. He grabs his various 01:14:03.430 --> 01:14:07.659 followers. Pick a named Chaos character by the 01:14:07.659 --> 01:14:10.279 time of 8th edition, and you will probably find 01:14:10.279 --> 01:14:12.260 someone serving Archeon. You know, Arbal the 01:14:12.260 --> 01:14:16.199 Undefeated, the Egrim Van Horstman. Well, he's 01:14:16.199 --> 01:14:17.800 a Zeech guy, so he kind of does his own thing. 01:14:17.899 --> 01:14:20.119 But still, you've got to pay lip service to the 01:14:20.119 --> 01:14:23.319 Everchosen. All the big bads of Chaos are bending 01:14:23.319 --> 01:14:27.560 the knee to the biggest of bad. So, before the 01:14:27.560 --> 01:14:30.560 end times, Storm of Chaos is very funny. I don't 01:14:30.560 --> 01:14:32.140 think we've ever kind of talked about it much. 01:14:32.399 --> 01:14:36.369 I don't think so. For those of you unaware, GW 01:14:36.369 --> 01:14:38.569 wanted the end times to happen before they did, 01:14:38.670 --> 01:14:41.989 but they did it when they were still a kind of 01:14:41.989 --> 01:14:45.090 cool company, and the results of the campaign 01:14:45.090 --> 01:14:49.270 would be determined by player matches. Classic. 01:14:49.789 --> 01:14:54.909 So, as I understand it, to help Chaos out, some 01:14:54.909 --> 01:14:57.829 armies got a bit of a buff during this time period, 01:14:57.949 --> 01:15:01.550 which is the Chaos Warriors. The problem was 01:15:01.550 --> 01:15:05.420 this... like, attracted a lot of newer players 01:15:05.420 --> 01:15:07.899 to the army. The people who've been playing for 01:15:07.899 --> 01:15:10.380 a while stuck with their armies, you know, add 01:15:10.380 --> 01:15:13.500 whatever new releases to it. But, like, veterans, 01:15:13.619 --> 01:15:16.340 like, you know, were sticking with the Empire, 01:15:16.539 --> 01:15:18.579 sticking with, you know, the High Elves, whatever, 01:15:18.739 --> 01:15:22.319 Dark Elves, whatever army they had. So the new 01:15:22.319 --> 01:15:24.140 players that don't really know how to play Warhammer 01:15:24.140 --> 01:15:27.560 were in charge of the buffed Chaos forces. And 01:15:27.560 --> 01:15:29.779 when the tabletop matches started rolling in, 01:15:29.880 --> 01:15:34.340 Chaos couldn't get past Kiesliff. Which is the 01:15:34.340 --> 01:15:36.939 first, like, you leave Norska, that is the first 01:15:36.939 --> 01:15:40.439 country they run into. Couldn't get past. Wow. 01:15:40.640 --> 01:15:44.560 So Games Workshop started fudging the numbers 01:15:44.560 --> 01:15:47.880 a little bit. Chaos would lose at the Siege of 01:15:47.880 --> 01:15:51.319 Prague. Suddenly they're past Prague. They'd 01:15:51.319 --> 01:15:54.720 lose at the edges of Ostermark. Suddenly Ostermark 01:15:54.720 --> 01:15:57.939 has burnt to the ground. They somehow got to 01:15:57.939 --> 01:16:01.600 Middenheim, which Archeon... I will remind you, 01:16:01.619 --> 01:16:03.500 started all the way at the Chaos Gates, which 01:16:03.500 --> 01:16:06.920 is like the Chaos Wastes, which is near the North 01:16:06.920 --> 01:16:11.720 Pole. Arkhan got to Middenheim before Karl Franz 01:16:11.720 --> 01:16:14.760 got there from Altdorf, which for comparison, 01:16:14.979 --> 01:16:21.739 you know, Hal, Andy, one of you, imagine you 01:16:21.739 --> 01:16:30.930 get to like Chicago before I do. That would be 01:16:30.930 --> 01:16:34.689 pretty spectacular. Without a passport. You also 01:16:34.689 --> 01:16:36.210 don't have a passport. You have to fight your 01:16:36.210 --> 01:16:40.350 way through customs. And you're paralyzed. Or 01:16:40.350 --> 01:16:43.510 you're being chased by a snail. It touches you, 01:16:43.550 --> 01:16:47.970 you die. But it's a snail face. I don't know 01:16:47.970 --> 01:16:49.729 what the reason... I don't think they really 01:16:49.729 --> 01:16:53.289 gave proper reasoning for it because Karl Franz 01:16:53.289 --> 01:16:56.590 must have just been cranking one out the whole 01:16:56.590 --> 01:17:01.140 time or something. New meaning of whole hog. 01:17:01.420 --> 01:17:06.079 Yeah. But eventually, they assault the walls 01:17:06.079 --> 01:17:09.479 of Middenheim, and the outrage in the fanbase 01:17:09.479 --> 01:17:13.939 was growing to the point where they ratcheted 01:17:13.939 --> 01:17:15.939 that back, like, oh, they were repelled. Sorry, 01:17:16.020 --> 01:17:19.300 guys. No, they're still here, but no, they didn't 01:17:19.300 --> 01:17:23.640 take the walls. Jeez. It is at this point that... 01:17:24.939 --> 01:17:27.000 They realize everyone in the fan base is pretty 01:17:27.000 --> 01:17:29.140 unhappy with these decisions up to this point. 01:17:30.659 --> 01:17:34.420 But they still want Chaos to win. So they have 01:17:34.420 --> 01:17:37.180 the vote decided through a call -in. Who do you 01:17:37.180 --> 01:17:39.960 want to win? And everyone picked the greenskins 01:17:39.960 --> 01:17:45.060 who had lost their last match. So Grimgar, because 01:17:45.060 --> 01:17:50.060 the last Orc match was lost, had fought one of 01:17:50.060 --> 01:17:53.680 Arkhan's lieutenants, Vardek Krom, to a standstill. 01:17:54.170 --> 01:17:57.050 but his army was destroyed around him. So the 01:17:57.050 --> 01:17:59.510 way they framed it was Grimgor walked off from 01:17:59.510 --> 01:18:03.130 that fight to go get a new army, walked to Middenheim 01:18:03.130 --> 01:18:05.489 from like across the world's edge mountains. 01:18:05.529 --> 01:18:09.810 So again, he's in like the steps of Asia right 01:18:09.810 --> 01:18:15.970 now, walks over to Berlin basically. And as Archeon 01:18:15.970 --> 01:18:20.590 is fighting Volton, Gains the upper hand even 01:18:20.590 --> 01:18:22.890 after a brief moment of actual fear and humility 01:18:22.890 --> 01:18:24.869 from a Chaos champion. Never thought I'd see 01:18:24.869 --> 01:18:28.529 that. Where he sees Volton as a Sigmar tattoo, 01:18:28.689 --> 01:18:30.210 and he's like, oh god, Sigmar's back, he's gonna 01:18:30.210 --> 01:18:34.630 beat my ass. Which, funny as it is, I do like 01:18:34.630 --> 01:18:37.529 that as a moment of humility. I think more Chaos, 01:18:37.770 --> 01:18:40.029 more any Warhammer characters could use some 01:18:40.029 --> 01:18:45.159 of that. But... Volton with his... Can you explain 01:18:45.159 --> 01:18:49.600 who Volton is, just very briefly? He is the reincarnation 01:18:49.600 --> 01:18:53.699 of Sigmar. In his soul, though. Not necessarily 01:18:53.699 --> 01:18:58.880 the god is Sigmar, right? It's weird. He's got 01:18:58.880 --> 01:19:06.020 his aura. Father, son, holy spirit. He is the 01:19:06.020 --> 01:19:08.689 reincarnation... reincarnation of Sigmar, but 01:19:08.689 --> 01:19:14.670 he is not Sigmar, but he is. It's like if Sigmar's 01:19:14.670 --> 01:19:18.409 birth, which is under the twin -tailed comets, 01:19:18.409 --> 01:19:22.229 or almost like a prophesied chosen one sort of 01:19:22.229 --> 01:19:25.810 thing. Volton is also a chosen one, but he isn't 01:19:25.810 --> 01:19:29.130 necessarily Sigmar. He's another chosen one. 01:19:29.430 --> 01:19:32.069 On the Empire's side, and he wields... Does he 01:19:32.069 --> 01:19:34.970 wield Galmoraz at this time? He would, yeah. 01:19:36.680 --> 01:19:38.479 Yeah, I think, well, I don't know if that's the 01:19:38.479 --> 01:19:40.479 official canon, it's like Carl Franz gave it 01:19:40.479 --> 01:19:42.319 to him as like a sort of, you're the head of 01:19:42.319 --> 01:19:46.239 the church now. Yeah, Carl Franz masterfully 01:19:46.239 --> 01:19:51.720 politicianed his way out of giving up the throne. 01:19:51.939 --> 01:19:53.659 So he was like, here, you are the head of the 01:19:53.659 --> 01:19:55.819 church. I will bow to you in all matters of the 01:19:55.819 --> 01:19:59.109 faith. This will please the people who will have 01:19:59.109 --> 01:20:01.130 my head if I don't acknowledge you as Sigmar. 01:20:01.569 --> 01:20:03.949 And it will keep the people who worship Ulric 01:20:03.949 --> 01:20:06.510 from burning down my throne before Volton can 01:20:06.510 --> 01:20:11.789 sit on it. Are you sure? I've got so many blacksmiths 01:20:11.789 --> 01:20:13.770 and amazing armories. I'll find something else. 01:20:13.810 --> 01:20:18.390 I've got loads. He has big hoop earrings and 01:20:18.390 --> 01:20:23.270 a lot of attitude. You think Bolton Karen'd his 01:20:23.270 --> 01:20:26.210 way to getting Galmaraz? Can I speak to you? 01:20:26.210 --> 01:20:29.689 I am the manager. Oh, sorry. Bolton wasn't even 01:20:29.689 --> 01:20:31.829 that pushy for it. It was the rest of the Empire 01:20:31.829 --> 01:20:34.529 demanding Sigmar reborn. Get the damn hammer. 01:20:34.729 --> 01:20:37.729 He's born like a normal, like regular citizen. 01:20:37.789 --> 01:20:40.569 He has almost the exact same origin story as 01:20:40.569 --> 01:20:43.829 Vulcan. And I don't know who was written first, 01:20:43.909 --> 01:20:47.529 so I don't know who was copying who. Probably 01:20:47.529 --> 01:20:51.329 the 40k one was copying, to be honest. Who was 01:20:51.329 --> 01:20:56.250 written first, Magnus or Magnus? I think Magnus 01:20:56.250 --> 01:21:01.409 was written first. Glad we cleared that up. In 01:21:01.409 --> 01:21:07.810 vague terms, Magnus. But yeah, everyone says 01:21:07.810 --> 01:21:12.779 it'll be real funny. Total orc victory. And so 01:21:12.779 --> 01:21:16.880 Grimgor walks on in, sucker punches Archeon, 01:21:17.079 --> 01:21:22.039 who just, he doesn't kill him. He just decks 01:21:22.039 --> 01:21:23.699 him in like the face, you know, or the nuts, 01:21:23.800 --> 01:21:26.119 choose whatever you want. I think he kicked him 01:21:26.119 --> 01:21:30.560 in the nuts. He like headbutt sucker punches 01:21:30.560 --> 01:21:31.939 him. It's just that scene from Avengers where 01:21:31.939 --> 01:21:34.939 Hulk goes smash, smash, smash, smash, smash, 01:21:34.939 --> 01:21:37.539 smash. I will admit to saying kicks him in the 01:21:37.539 --> 01:21:41.739 nuts more often than not because. I just find 01:21:41.739 --> 01:21:43.640 it funny, I'm going to be honest. And also, it's 01:21:43.640 --> 01:21:46.600 non -canon. It was very quickly declared non 01:21:46.600 --> 01:21:50.340 -canon alternate timeline by GW, so it's not 01:21:50.340 --> 01:21:53.760 like I'm ruining any lore, because GW put it 01:21:53.760 --> 01:21:56.460 in the grave. Special armor protection nuts, 01:21:56.460 --> 01:21:58.319 dudes, calm down, calm down. When he kicked him 01:21:58.319 --> 01:22:01.819 in the nuts, did it gong like a bell? I'm sure 01:22:01.819 --> 01:22:04.079 it would've. Well, I mean, at this point, the 01:22:04.079 --> 01:22:09.189 order did obliterate his nuts. We got Thankwell 01:22:09.189 --> 01:22:13.949 in the chat. Shout out Thankwell. So then Archeon 01:22:13.949 --> 01:22:22.510 sits there like... So he runs for the hills to 01:22:22.510 --> 01:22:24.909 get away from both Karl Franz's approaching army, 01:22:25.090 --> 01:22:29.930 who's just now showing up to Mittenheim, as well 01:22:29.930 --> 01:22:33.970 as Grimgor, who was just kind of shouting around 01:22:33.970 --> 01:22:36.409 that he's the best and then left to go get more 01:22:36.409 --> 01:22:41.560 orcs. and thus ends the storm of chaos. The only 01:22:41.560 --> 01:22:44.619 chaos army that saw any meaningful wins were 01:22:44.619 --> 01:22:46.920 the Tomb Kings, who were lumped in with chaos 01:22:46.920 --> 01:22:51.960 for some reason. Bizarre. To be honest, chaos 01:22:51.960 --> 01:22:54.039 always get the short end of the stick, even in 01:22:54.039 --> 01:22:56.939 the year of chaos. There's not much chaos going 01:22:56.939 --> 01:23:00.159 on. I'm still convinced that after the back -to 01:23:00.159 --> 01:23:03.199 -back punch of Cadia falling and Warhammer fantasy 01:23:03.199 --> 01:23:08.000 ending, and then the Great Rift, They've been 01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:11.000 on perpetual pullback mode as far as chaos goes. 01:23:11.319 --> 01:23:13.560 Yeah, and Psychic Awakening being like, more 01:23:13.560 --> 01:23:18.020 warp shenanigans? Okay. Psychic Awakening was 01:23:18.020 --> 01:23:21.479 nothing burger event. Seriously? It wasn't even 01:23:21.479 --> 01:23:26.380 bad, it was just like... Nothing. There are more 01:23:26.380 --> 01:23:28.760 human psychers. Does this change any rules? No. 01:23:29.000 --> 01:23:32.619 Are there more models? No. Emperor licking his 01:23:32.619 --> 01:23:35.680 lips for more bankers. Do the Eldar get more 01:23:35.680 --> 01:23:38.699 psychic phases or more powers or abilities? No, 01:23:38.739 --> 01:23:41.380 we're actually removing the psychic phase. It 01:23:41.380 --> 01:23:43.739 had Eldar lore in it, which means it was destined 01:23:43.739 --> 01:23:47.560 to be ignored. In the Eldar lore, it was the 01:23:47.560 --> 01:23:49.279 Dark Eldar and the Crafterwilders were fighting. 01:23:49.840 --> 01:23:54.520 Yeah, for real. They didn't do anything. Holy 01:23:54.520 --> 01:24:01.159 cow. So now this is the real end times. One last 01:24:01.159 --> 01:24:03.920 bitch. Jane Zarr died, and it's Jane Zarr, so 01:24:03.920 --> 01:24:09.159 it doesn't mean anything. They come back. But 01:24:09.159 --> 01:24:12.539 yeah, now the warm -up end of the world where 01:24:12.539 --> 01:24:14.960 GW was still listening to the audience is gone. 01:24:15.340 --> 01:24:19.680 Now it's time to plug our ears and then send 01:24:19.680 --> 01:24:26.279 it. Oh my gosh. So, same deal in general. He's 01:24:26.279 --> 01:24:29.279 gathering his hordes. We're ready to go. I think 01:24:29.279 --> 01:24:32.640 it was the last one. It was the last or the one 01:24:32.640 --> 01:24:34.359 before the Gautric and Felix at the Siege of 01:24:34.359 --> 01:24:36.600 Prague. I believe that was the last one. That 01:24:36.600 --> 01:24:39.460 was kind of the warm -up. It was still kind of 01:24:39.460 --> 01:24:42.460 technically the Storm of Chaos warm -up, but 01:24:42.460 --> 01:24:45.880 all those hordes coming down, Gautric, Felix, 01:24:45.960 --> 01:24:49.520 various other champions are facing. That's Archeon's 01:24:49.520 --> 01:24:55.859 opening act. So, it's time to fight. But the 01:24:55.859 --> 01:24:59.439 end times were kicked off by Nagash, not Archeon. 01:24:59.539 --> 01:25:01.439 Archeon was probably going to spend a little 01:25:01.439 --> 01:25:04.739 bit longer gathering his forces. And then Nagash 01:25:04.739 --> 01:25:08.640 ate the afterlife and was about to become chaos 01:25:08.640 --> 01:25:14.119 through his rituals. So Archeon just started 01:25:14.119 --> 01:25:16.479 panicking, much like the rest of the chaos gods. 01:25:18.039 --> 01:25:23.399 So he looked at his forces and, well... Originally, 01:25:23.399 --> 01:25:24.659 he was going to go, you know, like, all right, 01:25:24.680 --> 01:25:28.619 let's go deal with this. Problem. Balthasar Gelt 01:25:28.619 --> 01:25:31.659 put up the walls from Attack on Titan around 01:25:31.659 --> 01:25:34.819 all of the Empire, and he can't get in because 01:25:34.819 --> 01:25:38.779 the walls, like, again, this is a fantasy setting. 01:25:38.819 --> 01:25:41.039 The walls are so high that they reach the clouds. 01:25:41.880 --> 01:25:45.779 Wow. Are they magical? Are they real walls? They're 01:25:45.779 --> 01:25:48.500 real walls. Like, they are physical, but they're 01:25:48.500 --> 01:25:52.119 held up by magic and faith combined. So the prayers 01:25:52.119 --> 01:25:54.159 would sing right, Ulrican priests as well as 01:25:54.159 --> 01:25:58.420 wizards. They just implement that staircase from 01:25:58.420 --> 01:26:02.899 Mario. If you don't have enough stars, that's 01:26:02.899 --> 01:26:05.079 what they use. Archeon neither had enough stars 01:26:05.079 --> 01:26:11.079 nor did he know how to backwards long jump. The 01:26:11.079 --> 01:26:16.779 pole vaults were crazy that year. So he takes 01:26:16.779 --> 01:26:18.800 stock of his forces and how he could possibly 01:26:18.800 --> 01:26:26.390 keep Nagash from Khorne wandered off to burn 01:26:26.390 --> 01:26:29.109 down Naggaroth, and because Malekith was leaving 01:26:29.109 --> 01:26:33.670 to go take Ulthuan with every Dark Elf, I mean, 01:26:33.689 --> 01:26:35.670 Khorne did burn down Naggaroth, but the only 01:26:35.670 --> 01:26:40.710 one left in it was Marathi. Because she's a dick. 01:26:42.130 --> 01:26:45.750 So Khorne's doing that. Zeech, this is Warhammer 01:26:45.750 --> 01:26:51.039 fantasy, Zeech doesn't do anything. There you 01:26:51.039 --> 01:26:53.920 go, that's what Zeench was doing. Slaanesh was 01:26:53.920 --> 01:26:58.960 having a lovely time with the elves, so she's 01:26:58.960 --> 01:27:03.020 occupied. Nurgle, please go deal with that demon, 01:27:03.060 --> 01:27:07.500 with Nagash. As well as a massive horde of beastmen, 01:27:07.560 --> 01:27:09.640 but let's be honest, the threat there is terrible. 01:27:10.680 --> 01:27:14.239 I'm forever sorry, beastmen fans. You make Eldar 01:27:14.239 --> 01:27:21.850 fans look loved. Which, this does succeed. Nagash 01:27:21.850 --> 01:27:25.229 is, well, and through help with the Skaven, who 01:27:25.229 --> 01:27:27.670 come to Archeon with an alliance proposal he 01:27:27.670 --> 01:27:30.630 accepts. Because we will have the end of the 01:27:30.630 --> 01:27:32.970 world and the rats will join the bad guys. Well, 01:27:33.069 --> 01:27:35.310 no, the rats are the good guys. What am I saying? 01:27:35.930 --> 01:27:40.510 They join the bad guys. But, so, Nagash is dealt 01:27:40.510 --> 01:27:44.590 with. He's still very powerful and still an incarnate 01:27:44.590 --> 01:27:47.680 of the wind of death magic, but he's... no longer 01:27:47.680 --> 01:27:50.640 been able to ascend to become a chaos god of 01:27:50.640 --> 01:27:53.880 undeath, which would have broken reality because 01:27:53.880 --> 01:27:56.039 those two things do not mix well, and he would 01:27:56.039 --> 01:27:59.180 have been in charge of both. So, that crisis 01:27:59.180 --> 01:28:04.180 averted. Barely. Time to deal with this goddamn 01:28:04.180 --> 01:28:09.399 wall of faith. The Auric Bastion. So, this is 01:28:09.399 --> 01:28:13.300 solved. Archeon sends in the Changeling, who... 01:28:15.680 --> 01:28:19.960 Takes Balthasar Gelt for a wild ride. Balthasar 01:28:19.960 --> 01:28:22.579 Gelt, at this point, had learned a little bit 01:28:22.579 --> 01:28:25.260 of necromancy from Vlad to keep the Auric Bastion 01:28:25.260 --> 01:28:30.560 up. So that's... We all love Vlad in the real 01:28:30.560 --> 01:28:36.359 world, in -universe. Vlad is like... That is 01:28:36.359 --> 01:28:39.699 the funny mustache, man. As far as the Empire 01:28:39.699 --> 01:28:44.109 is concerned, they do not like Vlad. Or necromancy. 01:28:44.149 --> 01:28:46.289 Balthazar Galt is now a necromancer trained by 01:28:46.289 --> 01:28:49.430 Vlad von Karstein. So it's not looking great. 01:28:49.529 --> 01:28:51.590 And he's killed at least one Electra count to 01:28:51.590 --> 01:28:55.590 hide that secret. He's trying to really track 01:28:55.590 --> 01:28:59.109 down the Changeling, though. And he swears it's 01:28:59.109 --> 01:29:02.810 Volton. He swears to God it's Volton. And Karl 01:29:02.810 --> 01:29:05.789 Franz is about to give Volton Galmaraz. So he 01:29:05.789 --> 01:29:08.850 starts screaming, like, don't do it. Don't give 01:29:08.850 --> 01:29:12.210 it to him. Stop. Stop. He's like. ushered away 01:29:12.210 --> 01:29:16.670 by the guards. So he just starts raising zombies 01:29:16.670 --> 01:29:22.350 to attack Volton. Whereupon the warrior priest 01:29:22.350 --> 01:29:24.710 he'd been traveling with was revealed to be the 01:29:24.710 --> 01:29:28.350 real changeling who's then dealt with. So Gelt 01:29:28.350 --> 01:29:33.590 leaves. Gelt's off to just stop trying and become 01:29:33.590 --> 01:29:36.140 an outright apprentice of Vlad. I don't really 01:29:36.140 --> 01:29:38.699 know much about Gelt beside the memes, but is 01:29:38.699 --> 01:29:40.699 it fair to say that Gelt is a bit of a loose 01:29:40.699 --> 01:29:47.680 cannon? Yeah, yeah. He scammed his way into Altdorf 01:29:47.680 --> 01:29:51.960 by way of fake gold on a taxi driver. He's, again, 01:29:52.079 --> 01:29:53.920 he's the most powerful metal wizard there is. 01:29:54.380 --> 01:29:57.319 He was still powerful at this time. He didn't 01:29:57.319 --> 01:30:01.399 need to scam that guy. He did. He's the only 01:30:01.399 --> 01:30:06.109 leader of the college. of magic basically he 01:30:06.109 --> 01:30:08.449 still has a bounty on his head because oh yeah 01:30:08.449 --> 01:30:12.390 in a in a to layer the country to the south because 01:30:12.390 --> 01:30:15.350 he literally still has like a warrant he's got 01:30:15.350 --> 01:30:17.470 one there and he does have a bounty from the 01:30:17.470 --> 01:30:19.989 taxi driver he scammed the problem is he just 01:30:19.989 --> 01:30:21.930 he basically just goes go ahead and claim it 01:30:21.930 --> 01:30:29.189 yeah but uh gelt's gelt's out and because the 01:30:29.189 --> 01:30:32.609 wall was being held up by faith and magic They 01:30:32.609 --> 01:30:34.670 don't have much faith in the creation of the 01:30:34.670 --> 01:30:37.630 guy who started summoning zombies on the Emperor 01:30:37.630 --> 01:30:41.250 and Sigmar reincarnated. So the Orc Bastion comes 01:30:41.250 --> 01:30:44.390 tumbling down. There was cracks in other cases. 01:30:44.489 --> 01:30:46.489 Where else but Godric and Felix? There was a 01:30:46.489 --> 01:30:49.210 breakthrough at one point. And then Vlad himself 01:30:49.210 --> 01:30:53.649 intervened to stop it, as well as... What if... 01:30:54.970 --> 01:30:58.010 What if you gave Snorri 10 ,000 pounds of gunpowder? 01:30:59.609 --> 01:31:03.729 I'd like to know. We'll get to that. Yay, Snorri. 01:31:04.569 --> 01:31:08.710 So it had been breached slightly in a few places. 01:31:09.289 --> 01:31:13.050 Now it's coming down. So Archeon's now coming 01:31:13.050 --> 01:31:16.649 on in, and the green light to invade the Empire 01:31:16.649 --> 01:31:20.029 is here. So Archeon's still kind of been held 01:31:20.029 --> 01:31:22.350 up for a while. Like aside from the thing with 01:31:22.350 --> 01:31:24.670 Nagash, because Sylvania had its own smaller 01:31:24.670 --> 01:31:30.069 wall around it. The Orc Bastion was the sequel 01:31:30.069 --> 01:31:33.430 to the one Gelt put up around Sylvania. He's 01:31:33.430 --> 01:31:35.210 still been held up at that for the longest time. 01:31:36.109 --> 01:31:40.970 So he's got to make up for lost time. So it's 01:31:40.970 --> 01:31:44.630 off to Middenheim he goes. He's initially... 01:31:45.079 --> 01:31:47.119 It's kind of like Storm of Chaos. He can't quite 01:31:47.119 --> 01:31:51.859 get through the walls. In comes Teclis, who by 01:31:51.859 --> 01:31:54.680 this point in the story, all that nonsense on 01:31:54.680 --> 01:31:59.520 Ulthuan had gone down. Tyrion's dead. Cain is 01:31:59.520 --> 01:32:04.460 kind of gone. You know, his sword is now just 01:32:04.460 --> 01:32:06.199 a piece of metal that Malekith hawked into the 01:32:06.199 --> 01:32:09.520 sea anyways. Teclis wants his brother back, even 01:32:09.520 --> 01:32:12.079 after all this scheming and Tyrion going a little 01:32:12.079 --> 01:32:15.109 bit insane. It's still his twin brother. So, 01:32:15.109 --> 01:32:19.210 Teclis took Tyrion's horse and was carting around 01:32:19.210 --> 01:32:23.649 Tyrion's corpse on just a cart, and he snuck 01:32:23.649 --> 01:32:26.369 his way into Middenheim, rips out the flame of 01:32:26.369 --> 01:32:29.590 Ulric that was keeping the city safe, which does 01:32:29.590 --> 01:32:32.909 bring back Tyrion, and now Middenheim falls. 01:32:34.170 --> 01:32:39.840 Honestly, Teclis is... My man is actually probably 01:32:39.840 --> 01:32:42.260 the... He tried to save the world, and then he 01:32:42.260 --> 01:32:45.960 also is the reason that it failed. Poor Taklas 01:32:45.960 --> 01:32:48.140 was one of the smartest, nicest people in the 01:32:48.140 --> 01:32:50.279 setting, and then the end times happened, and 01:32:50.279 --> 01:32:52.659 then they made him awful. And then he was like, 01:32:52.819 --> 01:32:56.699 you know what would be fun? And very, very necessary. 01:32:57.500 --> 01:33:04.439 What if we sacrificed my niece? What if I just... 01:33:04.439 --> 01:33:08.600 On a flaming pyre... put my niece and then resurrected 01:33:08.600 --> 01:33:12.220 an undead god who will potentially destroy the 01:33:12.220 --> 01:33:16.000 universe. Here is this elf that believes only 01:33:16.000 --> 01:33:18.300 through helping mankind can the elves survive 01:33:18.300 --> 01:33:21.760 and fostered relations between them. Yeah, have 01:33:21.760 --> 01:33:25.140 him burn down Middenheim. And did a worse Samus 01:33:25.140 --> 01:33:30.899 Baratheon. Crazy. So Archeon now, you know, he 01:33:30.899 --> 01:33:37.119 takes Middenheim. It's conquered. He starts fighting 01:33:37.119 --> 01:33:41.520 Valtin as well. Valtin is here, which is going 01:33:41.520 --> 01:33:44.220 kind of both ways. It's a very even fight. And 01:33:44.220 --> 01:33:46.560 then a vermin lord comes from behind and decapitates 01:33:46.560 --> 01:33:51.279 Valtin, which pisses Archeon off because, hey, 01:33:51.579 --> 01:33:56.079 that was mine, dickhead. Killsteal, killsteal. 01:33:56.119 --> 01:34:01.319 But now Archeon has Galamaraz and is not pleased 01:34:01.319 --> 01:34:07.109 with what just happened. So after this, they 01:34:07.109 --> 01:34:10.569 set up camp in Mindenheim, in the throne room 01:34:10.569 --> 01:34:12.529 where the flame of Ulfric once burned, just to 01:34:12.529 --> 01:34:16.109 really rub salt in the wound. And they found... 01:34:16.109 --> 01:34:18.390 The thing of the vault and stuff, that's kind 01:34:18.390 --> 01:34:21.970 of his symbolic revenge on Sigmar in some way. 01:34:22.010 --> 01:34:23.970 So that's kind of why he's like... It's not like 01:34:23.970 --> 01:34:25.689 I was a kill still. It was just like, this is 01:34:25.689 --> 01:34:29.420 my revenge, bro. So... You know, you took that 01:34:29.420 --> 01:34:33.239 from me again. Someone else killed Steel and, 01:34:33.340 --> 01:34:39.359 you know, ruined his whole day. Yeah. At this 01:34:39.359 --> 01:34:44.340 point, he also discovers a third old one's warp 01:34:44.340 --> 01:34:49.979 gate, which he realizes if he can mess with this 01:34:49.979 --> 01:34:52.800 a little bit, he can activate a third warp rift, 01:34:52.880 --> 01:34:54.859 just like the ones at the North and South Poles, 01:34:54.880 --> 01:34:59.500 and devour the world. they get to work on setting 01:34:59.500 --> 01:35:03.939 that one up. In the meantime, there's still all 01:35:03.939 --> 01:35:05.840 of those incarnates of the Winds of Magic and 01:35:05.840 --> 01:35:07.920 all the people that would rather he don't do 01:35:07.920 --> 01:35:11.659 that. So, the Glot can go to deal with Altdorf, 01:35:11.720 --> 01:35:16.220 his Nurgle... Oof, pardon me. His Nurgle underlings, 01:35:16.380 --> 01:35:20.079 which they do, and they flood the city in pus, 01:35:20.279 --> 01:35:26.079 and no, that is not made up. They do that. They 01:35:26.079 --> 01:35:28.960 even put Vlad out of the fight because he stabs 01:35:28.960 --> 01:35:31.659 them with his sword that drinks blood. Unfortunately, 01:35:31.760 --> 01:35:36.060 they are Nurgle champions. So, every disease 01:35:36.060 --> 01:35:40.020 in the book upon ye, Vlad. But Sigmar returns 01:35:40.020 --> 01:35:45.159 as the Glotkin de -arm Karl Franz figuratively 01:35:45.159 --> 01:35:49.039 and literally as he calls out to Sigmar to save 01:35:49.039 --> 01:35:52.039 him. Sigmar inhabits his body, purges Altdorf, 01:35:52.220 --> 01:35:56.859 and it's time to fight again. So he sends Kyros 01:35:56.859 --> 01:36:00.159 Fateweaver now to deal with Karl Franz, which 01:36:00.159 --> 01:36:06.220 didn't work. So Arkhan cuts off his head and 01:36:06.220 --> 01:36:09.279 uses the blood to summon Kabanda, hoping that 01:36:09.279 --> 01:36:11.340 the direct approach will have a bit more success. 01:36:11.920 --> 01:36:18.079 Kabanda's my slung of sickness. Crazy that Kyros 01:36:18.079 --> 01:36:22.810 did not see that coming. Crazy. Kairos doesn't 01:36:22.810 --> 01:36:24.470 have a good track record, even the lion. He's 01:36:24.470 --> 01:36:26.470 like, I'm going to try and get the lion on my 01:36:26.470 --> 01:36:28.550 side. And he's like, hey, you can see the future, 01:36:28.689 --> 01:36:31.710 yeah? Stabs in the gut. Did you see that? Oh, 01:36:31.850 --> 01:36:36.729 lion. I still don't get it. You can't see the 01:36:36.729 --> 01:36:40.949 present? What do you mean? No, it's basically 01:36:40.949 --> 01:36:42.789 that thing from Metal Gear Solid where you put 01:36:42.789 --> 01:36:44.689 the controller in the second port. That's what 01:36:44.689 --> 01:36:48.510 the lion did. You use the second controller. 01:36:50.430 --> 01:36:57.890 Psycho Mantis. During this time, everyone else 01:36:57.890 --> 01:37:01.350 is kind of gathering against him, and they go 01:37:01.350 --> 01:37:03.729 to fight. Cabanda and all the bloodthirsters 01:37:03.729 --> 01:37:06.029 and coronate demons that were summoned kind of 01:37:06.029 --> 01:37:08.250 don't want to wait for the incarnates to come 01:37:08.250 --> 01:37:10.369 to them, so the arcane just kind of sets them 01:37:10.369 --> 01:37:13.770 loose, go have at it. Which, to be fair, Cabanda 01:37:13.770 --> 01:37:18.369 tanks the entire wind of fire to the face and 01:37:18.369 --> 01:37:22.060 then kills the incarnate of fire. Because the 01:37:22.060 --> 01:37:24.020 world will be ending. I don't care that an entire 01:37:24.020 --> 01:37:26.300 wind of magic was just shoved on me. I'm him. 01:37:27.359 --> 01:37:30.319 Before Nagash chokes him out. Such is his power. 01:37:31.960 --> 01:37:36.439 And the fight begins with the incarnate Teclis 01:37:36.439 --> 01:37:41.060 pulling a funny. He's back at it. He tries to 01:37:41.060 --> 01:37:45.239 teleport everyone to Middenheim. He does. Middenheim 01:37:45.239 --> 01:37:48.140 is a big place. So they're all kind of scattered 01:37:48.140 --> 01:37:53.020 and Teclis lands at Archeon's feet. He starts 01:37:53.020 --> 01:37:55.920 making fun of Arkhan, like, Sigmar's back in 01:37:55.920 --> 01:37:58.300 Karl Franz's body. Bet you didn't know that. 01:37:58.399 --> 01:38:01.319 So Arkhan just punches him in the face and, like, 01:38:01.420 --> 01:38:04.779 ties him up. Don't know why he didn't just kill 01:38:04.779 --> 01:38:06.920 him, but who knows. Shut up, nerd, said Arkhan. 01:38:06.920 --> 01:38:10.680 Pretty much that. It's shut up, dork. During 01:38:10.680 --> 01:38:12.720 this time, he'd also gotten a couple people on 01:38:12.720 --> 01:38:15.520 his side, including Isabella von Karstein, who 01:38:15.520 --> 01:38:24.029 was possessed. Sigvald is there. Throg is also 01:38:24.029 --> 01:38:28.130 there. Manfred is skulking around because he's 01:38:28.130 --> 01:38:32.630 the worst. Archeon called him a leech, didn't 01:38:32.630 --> 01:38:36.729 he? Manfred was like, I'll join you because I'm 01:38:36.729 --> 01:38:39.529 powerful. I'm great. I'll join you. I've always 01:38:39.529 --> 01:38:42.750 been a fan of yours. I think he literally went, 01:38:42.829 --> 01:38:46.409 fuck off, liege, or something. You're useless. 01:38:46.970 --> 01:38:49.270 He doesn't have no position of power. He's just 01:38:49.270 --> 01:38:54.949 like, you can hang around, sure. And Cetra, who 01:38:54.949 --> 01:39:00.029 is not quite serving him. He's just kind of playing 01:39:00.029 --> 01:39:04.670 along for a bit. So the final battle is commencing. 01:39:05.010 --> 01:39:08.439 The incarnates are all here. Teclis is freed 01:39:08.439 --> 01:39:11.939 and pulls another funny one and teleports every 01:39:11.939 --> 01:39:18.479 orc ever into the fight, including Grimgor, who 01:39:18.479 --> 01:39:22.600 is the incarnate of beast magic. So before the 01:39:22.600 --> 01:39:26.079 final, final fight, Grimgor... No, Grimgor doesn't 01:39:26.079 --> 01:39:28.920 step up. I'm getting things out of order. Grimgor 01:39:28.920 --> 01:39:30.899 just goes to fight the first person he sees, 01:39:31.119 --> 01:39:34.039 which is the incarnates, before Malekith says 01:39:34.039 --> 01:39:37.659 that Grimgor, you are the best. And that Archeon 01:39:37.659 --> 01:39:41.460 git thinks he's the best. So Grimgor roundly 01:39:41.460 --> 01:39:44.359 turns around and goes to beat the shit out of 01:39:44.359 --> 01:39:49.220 Archeon. Which, to be fair, in spite of everything 01:39:49.220 --> 01:39:53.220 Archeon has, the blessings, the armor, the future 01:39:53.220 --> 01:39:56.220 -seeing device, Grimgor's still running his fate. 01:39:56.560 --> 01:40:00.960 He is still beating his ass. And headbutts him 01:40:00.960 --> 01:40:02.760 so hard that the Eye of Shurian just breaks. 01:40:03.199 --> 01:40:05.939 So the future -seeing's gone now because an orc... 01:40:06.329 --> 01:40:09.989 I took his head to it. Didn't see that coming, 01:40:10.149 --> 01:40:13.229 did he? No, he didn't. Much like Kairos. Well, 01:40:13.310 --> 01:40:15.689 again, how can you plan for something he's not 01:40:15.689 --> 01:40:17.569 thinking anywhere ahead? He's just like, I just 01:40:17.569 --> 01:40:22.439 do this now. Yay! You can't see Grimgor's plans. 01:40:22.539 --> 01:40:24.859 You can't see his plan strikes because there 01:40:24.859 --> 01:40:28.460 is no battle plan. A backhand then shits himself. 01:40:29.439 --> 01:40:33.840 Then invests in stocks and shares and then attack 01:40:33.840 --> 01:40:37.699 again. The plan is improvise and it's always 01:40:37.699 --> 01:40:41.479 the plan. There is no battle plan. This is Grimgor 01:40:41.479 --> 01:40:48.579 Ironhide. You're getting jumped. Storm of Chaos 01:40:48.579 --> 01:40:51.539 Round 2 will not be happening, and so Archeon 01:40:51.539 --> 01:40:55.279 breaks free the demon in the Slayer of Kings 01:40:55.279 --> 01:40:59.500 and beheads Grimgor in one fell swoop. Damn. 01:41:00.699 --> 01:41:05.039 RIP King. Despite this, something that the End 01:41:05.039 --> 01:41:07.319 Times, I feel like not a lot of people know, 01:41:07.479 --> 01:41:10.680 they actually retook Middenheim, the Incarnates. 01:41:10.699 --> 01:41:13.560 They had driven Chaos off, in part helped by 01:41:13.560 --> 01:41:16.649 Cetra, no doubt, who had cut off... Kolek Sun 01:41:16.649 --> 01:41:19.569 Eater's head, cut off a greater demon that was 01:41:19.569 --> 01:41:23.189 attacking Nagash's head, and then said, I'm going 01:41:23.189 --> 01:41:25.449 to kill all the chaos gods and walked into the 01:41:25.449 --> 01:41:31.090 demon horde. What a goat. Hey, you cannot fault 01:41:31.090 --> 01:41:35.869 the man for, again, the ambition. Unfortunately, 01:41:36.010 --> 01:41:38.829 in spite of this, and in spite of Middenheim 01:41:38.829 --> 01:41:42.329 being retaken, oh, and Arkhan got tossed into 01:41:42.329 --> 01:41:45.420 a warp rift. Who was he fighting? He was fighting 01:41:45.420 --> 01:41:51.260 the Karl Franz slash Sigmar. Yeah, he got yeeted 01:41:51.260 --> 01:41:56.640 in by Karl Sigmar. How did Karl Sigmar get Galmoraz 01:41:56.640 --> 01:42:00.840 back? Archeon had it up as a trophy. He wasn't 01:42:00.840 --> 01:42:05.119 using it because that would kind of be like Horus 01:42:05.119 --> 01:42:08.680 using the Emperor's sword. You're just going 01:42:08.680 --> 01:42:12.500 to blow up. You're going to light on fire. Blessed. 01:42:15.260 --> 01:42:22.500 Figma. Figma. I see. Fragma. Thank you for the 01:42:22.500 --> 01:42:24.239 Fs in chat, by the way. I appreciate that, guys. 01:42:25.399 --> 01:42:29.460 But Archeon Claws is way back out. The ritual 01:42:29.460 --> 01:42:32.380 to stop. We've gone through this before. The 01:42:32.380 --> 01:42:34.600 ritual to stop the Warper from overtaking the 01:42:34.600 --> 01:42:37.060 world is almost stopped. Manfred von Karstein 01:42:37.060 --> 01:42:41.479 stabs Gelt in the back. No one can, uh, Teclis 01:42:41.479 --> 01:42:43.680 tries to compensate by taking on now a third 01:42:43.680 --> 01:42:47.020 wind of magic, uh, because I believe he took 01:42:47.020 --> 01:42:50.279 on fire as well. Uh, and his, his light, his 01:42:50.279 --> 01:42:53.260 staff already had light in it. So he falls apart. 01:42:54.239 --> 01:42:56.560 Manfred then gets stabbed in the back by Tyrion 01:42:56.560 --> 01:43:00.899 in return. The last scene, well, third to last 01:43:00.899 --> 01:43:04.180 scene of Warhammer fantasy is the chaos rift 01:43:04.180 --> 01:43:07.260 swallowing Middenheim. and Archeon and Sigmar 01:43:07.260 --> 01:43:09.720 wrestling over Galmaraz and falling into the 01:43:09.720 --> 01:43:14.720 rift. Which to be fair, isn't it Archeon goes 01:43:14.720 --> 01:43:17.380 on to survive because he's literally fighting 01:43:17.380 --> 01:43:23.739 with Sigmar, Franz, basically. They get thrown 01:43:23.739 --> 01:43:26.380 into the realm of chaos, don't they? And in some 01:43:26.380 --> 01:43:28.460 way that means their bodies are not destroyed. 01:43:29.960 --> 01:43:31.960 They get thrown into the realm of chaos, but 01:43:31.960 --> 01:43:34.920 at some point at least Sigmar leaves chaos into 01:43:34.920 --> 01:43:39.500 it. The void. Yeah, they do break it, but essentially 01:43:39.500 --> 01:43:42.060 Archeon didn't get his wish, though, which was 01:43:42.060 --> 01:43:44.939 like, I would be obliterated with the end of 01:43:44.939 --> 01:43:47.960 the world, so then I'm free. Yeah, no, they're 01:43:47.960 --> 01:43:51.619 very much still both around. Also of note is 01:43:51.619 --> 01:43:53.640 that the last place to fall was Athel Loren, 01:43:53.840 --> 01:43:56.960 which has like the oak of ages, like this tree 01:43:56.960 --> 01:44:00.100 of life whose roots span the entire world. The 01:44:00.100 --> 01:44:02.039 second to last place to fall was the fucking 01:44:02.039 --> 01:44:07.439 moot. Which means that in terms of defense against 01:44:07.439 --> 01:44:12.279 chaos, it goes Ancient Eldritch Tree of Life 01:44:12.279 --> 01:44:15.920 that can warp reality. The Shire if a racist 01:44:15.920 --> 01:44:22.180 person who hated halflings designed it. I guess 01:44:22.180 --> 01:44:25.779 we're not really going to the Age of Sigmar stuff, 01:44:25.880 --> 01:44:28.300 but Archeon, again, is still around, though. 01:44:28.619 --> 01:44:31.380 Oh, never mind. Excuse me. How long have we been 01:44:31.380 --> 01:44:33.079 going? We could save that for later if we want. 01:44:33.260 --> 01:44:35.619 No, no. Please do. Please do. We can do a quick 01:44:35.619 --> 01:44:42.140 version of it. It has been a minute. So his plan, 01:44:42.260 --> 01:44:43.979 unfortunately, to kill everyone ever probably 01:44:43.979 --> 01:44:45.720 would have never worked because it turns out, 01:44:45.720 --> 01:44:48.460 at least in fantasy, it's a bit of a multiverse. 01:44:49.279 --> 01:44:53.039 And Archeon succeeded in the last world, so the 01:44:53.039 --> 01:44:55.340 Chaos Gods kind of keep throwing him at new universes. 01:44:56.319 --> 01:44:58.859 which is supposedly in between the time of Sigmar 01:44:58.859 --> 01:45:01.020 and the Mortal Realms forming and his pantheon 01:45:01.020 --> 01:45:05.420 being born anew. Archeon was off just ass -blasting 01:45:05.420 --> 01:45:09.460 realities across the multiverse. Should we say, 01:45:09.520 --> 01:45:12.819 like, in fantasy, it is explained, like, it's 01:45:12.819 --> 01:45:15.060 almost like a cycle, isn't there? Where essentially 01:45:15.060 --> 01:45:19.579 the world or whatever universe... Chaos destroys 01:45:19.579 --> 01:45:22.439 a world. The survivors become the new gods of 01:45:22.439 --> 01:45:25.619 the next one. all is good, chaos comes in, and 01:45:25.619 --> 01:45:32.039 then it's not good. So ones like Tarl, Maw, or 01:45:32.039 --> 01:45:35.640 the elven gods, which are Cain or Assyrian, they 01:45:35.640 --> 01:45:38.560 are people who, they were just mortals of previous 01:45:38.560 --> 01:45:43.159 realms or things, and they basically survived 01:45:43.159 --> 01:45:46.239 on their legends combined with magic itself. 01:45:46.720 --> 01:45:49.979 It's never too explicitly stated how the human 01:45:49.979 --> 01:45:52.000 gods fit in, but at least the elven gods are 01:45:52.000 --> 01:45:57.600 explicitly like, reincarnations. But Archeon, 01:45:57.720 --> 01:46:01.359 you know, he's the grand villain. He's got to 01:46:01.359 --> 01:46:04.220 make a proper entrance. So chaos starts seeping 01:46:04.220 --> 01:46:06.939 into the mortal realms. They all come under attack. 01:46:07.159 --> 01:46:08.960 Sigmar's pantheon is still a little divided. 01:46:09.640 --> 01:46:12.420 The age of myth is coming to a close. The age 01:46:12.420 --> 01:46:15.100 of chaos is coming. Cracks are starting to appear. 01:46:16.000 --> 01:46:19.159 And as more and more cities and parts of the 01:46:19.159 --> 01:46:22.760 realms fall, Archeon makes his grand... appearance. 01:46:23.680 --> 01:46:27.199 With a wrestling theme song and fireworks. You 01:46:27.199 --> 01:46:31.319 ain't seen nothing yet. Baby, you ain't seen 01:46:31.319 --> 01:46:34.199 nothing yet. Oh no, he's back again. Shout out 01:46:34.199 --> 01:46:37.140 to the guy who said screw Sterling, by the way. 01:46:37.439 --> 01:46:41.979 Sterling can get it. Sterling can get it. In 01:46:41.979 --> 01:46:44.600 the context of Age of Sigmar, when we said things 01:46:44.600 --> 01:46:47.239 like Age of Myth and Age of... What was the one 01:46:47.239 --> 01:46:48.760 after Age of Myth? I think it was Age of Chaos, 01:46:48.859 --> 01:46:51.949 wasn't it? Yeah. Age of Myth in this new universe 01:46:51.949 --> 01:46:55.869 slash realm is like thousands and thousands and 01:46:55.869 --> 01:46:58.550 thousands of years. So Archeon has not been... 01:46:58.550 --> 01:47:01.609 Chaos doesn't really touch this new realm as, 01:47:01.630 --> 01:47:03.770 I guess, only in the form of magic, really. But 01:47:03.770 --> 01:47:07.789 even then, the mortal realms magic is kind of 01:47:07.789 --> 01:47:10.869 not quite chaos magic because now magic comes 01:47:10.869 --> 01:47:13.850 from the realms rather than filtering out through 01:47:13.850 --> 01:47:17.859 the realm of chaos. So it's weird. Although there 01:47:17.859 --> 01:47:20.479 were also Beastmen here before Chaos showed up 01:47:20.479 --> 01:47:25.920 properly, so who fucking knows. Look, if you 01:47:25.920 --> 01:47:28.920 exist on a square part of a fantasy, like if 01:47:28.920 --> 01:47:31.159 you pointed a map on Warhammer Fantasy, there's 01:47:31.159 --> 01:47:35.359 a Beastman there. You can assume. There's a Beastman, 01:47:35.420 --> 01:47:37.220 and then there's ten people pointing going, oh, 01:47:37.439 --> 01:47:41.960 Beastman. Leave him alone. There are Beastmen. 01:47:42.180 --> 01:47:44.380 In the same way that there are races that are. 01:47:45.039 --> 01:47:47.520 I guess Beastmen technically are just their own 01:47:47.520 --> 01:47:52.720 old race. What's the one in Norseco? Is it Fimir? 01:47:53.000 --> 01:47:57.180 Fimir, yeah. They technically were in the world 01:47:57.180 --> 01:47:59.539 before Chaos, but they're one of the early worshippers 01:47:59.539 --> 01:48:01.600 of Chaos. I guess Beastmen technically are a 01:48:01.600 --> 01:48:05.460 thing before Chaos, and then basically Chaos 01:48:05.460 --> 01:48:10.520 is them now, intertwined. Slowly but surely, 01:48:10.659 --> 01:48:15.439 the first one is that Archeon's His sign just 01:48:15.439 --> 01:48:19.760 burns into the sky across the realms. City is 01:48:19.760 --> 01:48:21.680 kind of like that bit where it happened before 01:48:21.680 --> 01:48:26.300 7th edition moved the timeline forward. Statues 01:48:26.300 --> 01:48:29.239 in Sigmar's realm start weeping tears of blood. 01:48:30.460 --> 01:48:34.560 Bad things are coming. And then at the Battle 01:48:34.560 --> 01:48:37.460 of Burning Skies, Archeon makes his appearance. 01:48:38.760 --> 01:48:42.670 Sigmar is there. He takes his followers. to fight 01:48:42.670 --> 01:48:45.930 Archeon. You know, Sigmar is Sigmar. Every swing 01:48:45.930 --> 01:48:48.729 of his hammer is another greater demon obliterated 01:48:48.729 --> 01:48:52.850 from existence. But apparently Sigmar is like 01:48:52.850 --> 01:48:55.550 Sauron, and if he doesn't have his hammer, he's 01:48:55.550 --> 01:48:59.789 not at full strength. So an illusion of Archeon 01:48:59.789 --> 01:49:04.909 has Galmaraz whipped at it by Sigmar. It flies 01:49:04.909 --> 01:49:07.390 into a portal to the Realm of Chaos, and Sigmar 01:49:07.390 --> 01:49:13.119 is like, well... I lost. Time to go home. So, 01:49:13.159 --> 01:49:18.500 Archeon. Yeah. There's a point called the Eight 01:49:18.500 --> 01:49:21.619 Points. Or no, the All Points, which is a place 01:49:21.619 --> 01:49:23.180 where you can go to any of the mortal realms 01:49:23.180 --> 01:49:26.159 from the same spot. He conquers it, because that's 01:49:26.159 --> 01:49:28.460 a very handy thing for a chaos war leader to 01:49:28.460 --> 01:49:32.659 have. And he renames it the Eight Points, and 01:49:32.659 --> 01:49:37.060 this is now his fortress. And from there, to 01:49:37.060 --> 01:49:40.369 keep it a little bit summarized. He just goes 01:49:40.369 --> 01:49:42.949 on a smashing spree across all eight realities. 01:49:43.670 --> 01:49:50.430 The only person to beat him was Malekith. It 01:49:50.430 --> 01:49:55.090 was explicitly said that he was the only person 01:49:55.090 --> 01:49:58.229 on Chaos strong enough to beat Nagash, but he 01:49:58.229 --> 01:50:01.130 did still beat Nagash. It didn't matter too much 01:50:01.130 --> 01:50:04.590 because he killed Nagash in the afterlife realm, 01:50:04.750 --> 01:50:08.119 so he just kind of... He just kind of went home. 01:50:08.439 --> 01:50:12.699 You can't kill death. You got me. I'll see you 01:50:12.699 --> 01:50:18.739 again in a week, asshole. And he began raising 01:50:18.739 --> 01:50:24.220 hell. Quite literally. Age of Sigmar, for those 01:50:24.220 --> 01:50:26.319 who don't know, is technically post -apocalyptic. 01:50:27.020 --> 01:50:29.420 Because for a couple hundred years, Archeon and 01:50:29.420 --> 01:50:32.060 his hordes were just raiding hell across the 01:50:32.060 --> 01:50:37.010 mortal realms. What do you call it? He has his 01:50:37.010 --> 01:50:39.369 own new souped -up version of the Warriors, the 01:50:39.369 --> 01:50:42.750 Swords of Chaos, called the Varangard, who, when 01:50:42.750 --> 01:50:45.090 he's not around, they lead his armies. When he 01:50:45.090 --> 01:50:47.609 is around, they're his mightiest warriors he 01:50:47.609 --> 01:50:50.689 sends at the greatest of threats. The only realm 01:50:50.689 --> 01:50:53.710 that didn't have his presence was Azir, because 01:50:53.710 --> 01:50:56.550 Sigmar pretty firmly shut the gates on anyone 01:50:56.550 --> 01:51:00.649 else coming in at a certain point. When the Stormcast 01:51:00.649 --> 01:51:03.529 Eternals arrived, sure enough, they... They made 01:51:03.529 --> 01:51:05.430 a go at Archeon. They did pretty good at fighting 01:51:05.430 --> 01:51:07.149 through his armies. And then one of them fought 01:51:07.149 --> 01:51:10.770 Archeon and didn't go so well for those guys. 01:51:10.890 --> 01:51:18.630 They had to get reforged very promptly. And there's, 01:51:18.630 --> 01:51:20.609 like I mentioned earlier, there's hints that 01:51:20.609 --> 01:51:24.090 that godhood plan that I do believe is kind of 01:51:24.090 --> 01:51:26.890 not far off because it's gotten to a point that 01:51:26.890 --> 01:51:28.590 whenever the chaos gods like throw a little test 01:51:28.590 --> 01:51:32.909 at him, see how he's doing, smashes it. Like, 01:51:32.909 --> 01:51:37.310 without fear. He felt confident enough in his 01:51:37.310 --> 01:51:40.270 own power to ignore the blessing of the horned 01:51:40.270 --> 01:51:43.109 rat, who he spits in the face of, who's a full 01:51:43.109 --> 01:51:45.470 -blown chaos god by this point, so he's at least 01:51:45.470 --> 01:51:49.130 strong enough to avoid retribution on that front. 01:51:52.390 --> 01:51:54.930 Horned rat literally went, jokes on you, I like 01:51:54.930 --> 01:51:58.109 that stuff. Didn't need to know that horned rat. 01:51:59.039 --> 01:52:01.520 He almost freed Slaanesh from the prison that 01:52:01.520 --> 01:52:04.880 the elves had put her in. But at the last minute, 01:52:05.020 --> 01:52:08.739 you know, the things started going wrong. Marathi 01:52:08.739 --> 01:52:12.380 was doing utter nonsense. Other factions were 01:52:12.380 --> 01:52:15.579 bothering him. Had to pull away in the elves' 01:52:15.699 --> 01:52:17.260 tight security a bit, but she's a little bit 01:52:17.260 --> 01:52:19.300 closer to being weakened. He might also become 01:52:19.300 --> 01:52:23.180 Slaanesh, because a lot of the Slaanesh worshippers 01:52:23.180 --> 01:52:25.640 have chosen to start worshipping him as the new 01:52:25.640 --> 01:52:30.619 god of excess. Look, he's goofy, sure, but he 01:52:30.619 --> 01:52:33.220 does have explicitly the mark of Slaanesh and 01:52:33.220 --> 01:52:36.739 the blessing. And Everchosen's are all four chaos 01:52:36.739 --> 01:52:39.819 gods' might poured into one person. So there 01:52:39.819 --> 01:52:42.640 are worse candidates. Slaanesh isn't dead, though, 01:52:42.659 --> 01:52:46.920 is she? No, she's locked away by the elves. Yeah. 01:52:47.839 --> 01:52:52.180 That is a moving storyline. They have done stuff 01:52:52.180 --> 01:52:54.619 with and gotten her close to break it out. They're 01:52:54.619 --> 01:52:57.960 kicking her stomach so she throws up Elven souls. 01:52:58.939 --> 01:53:07.560 His latest thing was during a fourth edition 01:53:07.560 --> 01:53:13.180 fourth edition fourth edition fourth edition's 01:53:13.180 --> 01:53:16.619 launch when The Skaven brought Skaven Blight 01:53:16.619 --> 01:53:22.420 to everywhere at once. He decided to go to Shaiish. 01:53:22.979 --> 01:53:26.760 He's sick of dealing with Nagash's garbage and 01:53:26.760 --> 01:53:29.659 is trying to just at least cripple him long enough 01:53:29.659 --> 01:53:32.600 to where he can not worry about the OCR for a 01:53:32.600 --> 01:53:37.420 couple years. So he's back stronger than ever. 01:53:38.000 --> 01:53:40.640 For once, the forces of order, though, are just 01:53:40.640 --> 01:53:42.819 as juiced up. Sigmar's got his Stormcast now. 01:53:43.539 --> 01:53:46.640 It's, you know, the playing field is much more 01:53:46.640 --> 01:53:49.380 even than when Archeon's mostly been depicted 01:53:49.380 --> 01:53:52.579 in Warhammer, for fantasy at least. And his mount 01:53:52.579 --> 01:53:55.239 has changed as well. Oh yeah, it's still Dorgar, 01:53:55.359 --> 01:54:00.279 but Dorgar is, that is not a horse. That is not 01:54:00.279 --> 01:54:03.220 a horse. It's like a Hydra dragon thing. Yeah, 01:54:03.239 --> 01:54:11.359 it has the Zeench, Nurgle, and Cornheads. Ripslash. 01:54:11.970 --> 01:54:17.149 Slanesh is again in jail. The horned rat was 01:54:17.149 --> 01:54:20.529 also told to piss off from the fancy demon horse. 01:54:21.130 --> 01:54:23.970 I don't know. I'm kind of glad that Slanesh isn't 01:54:23.970 --> 01:54:26.289 part of that amalgamation because you don't know 01:54:26.289 --> 01:54:29.890 what part it's going to be. It might not be PC. 01:54:30.989 --> 01:54:36.649 I did have the slightest bit about tabletop. 01:54:39.090 --> 01:54:41.470 I had one last thing about it, which is, like, 01:54:41.550 --> 01:54:44.890 do you think he even remembers? Because, like, 01:54:44.949 --> 01:54:47.449 when, for example, like, in Techless in Age of 01:54:47.449 --> 01:54:51.449 Sigmar, he kind of, like, he knows he's Techless 01:54:51.449 --> 01:54:53.569 and he has some memories of, like, the world 01:54:53.569 --> 01:54:56.590 that was. But, like, it comes in, like, flashes. 01:54:56.649 --> 01:54:59.489 Do you think with Archeon now, because obviously 01:54:59.489 --> 01:55:01.670 you've been to Archeon for who knows how many... 01:55:01.930 --> 01:55:04.470 eons in his perception of time. Does he even 01:55:04.470 --> 01:55:07.210 remember... Does Archeon get hot flashes? Does 01:55:07.210 --> 01:55:09.710 he remember being like Indrid Kastner? Do you 01:55:09.710 --> 01:55:13.069 think at any point? I'm sure he's got some stuff. 01:55:13.329 --> 01:55:15.590 He definitely remembers at least some of it. 01:55:17.430 --> 01:55:20.329 But he must be... Even Archeon, so long. It's 01:55:20.329 --> 01:55:22.010 almost like he's fighting, but he has no idea 01:55:22.010 --> 01:55:24.989 why he... He just fights to end the fighting 01:55:24.989 --> 01:55:28.409 sort of thing. He doesn't even remember any previous 01:55:28.409 --> 01:55:33.520 purity of reason or... life he's just uh he is 01:55:33.520 --> 01:55:36.539 the you know he's literally a monster just on 01:55:36.539 --> 01:55:38.859 occasion he sees the descendant of someone what 01:55:38.859 --> 01:55:41.239 he killed way back when he's like have i killed 01:55:41.239 --> 01:55:43.300 you before it's like no no that was my great 01:55:43.300 --> 01:55:47.659 great great great grandpa ah okay yeah so from 01:55:47.659 --> 01:55:54.680 before then uh his stats are suitably he cost 01:55:54.680 --> 01:55:59.619 840 points Basically, anything you point him 01:55:59.619 --> 01:56:01.960 at is going to swiftly die, especially because 01:56:01.960 --> 01:56:05.460 if he rolls a six with a Slayer of Kings for 01:56:05.460 --> 01:56:10.319 a wound roll, they just die. What's that compared 01:56:10.319 --> 01:56:14.460 to a Primarch mini in 40k? Primarch's already 01:56:14.460 --> 01:56:19.220 close to that. The Lion and Gilliman do have... 01:56:19.220 --> 01:56:23.220 Gilliman wields the Emperor's Sword, and I'm 01:56:23.220 --> 01:56:26.180 pretty sure that thing hits on twos. and it has 01:56:26.180 --> 01:56:28.439 a thing where it does have devastating wounds, 01:56:28.659 --> 01:56:31.859 but I don't think it could outright kill something 01:56:31.859 --> 01:56:34.680 like a... There's no insta -kill anymore. Unless 01:56:34.680 --> 01:56:39.460 a model specifically has a rule that says ignore 01:56:39.460 --> 01:56:44.739 insta -kill effects, which five do. You're just 01:56:44.739 --> 01:56:48.819 dead, and it deals three damage a pop anyways, 01:56:49.119 --> 01:56:54.920 so you're probably dead anyways. 25 wounds. 3 01:56:54.920 --> 01:56:59.880 -up save, 5 -up ward save. He's a wizard. What 01:56:59.880 --> 01:57:03.220 if I just killed you? He wasn't originally a 01:57:03.220 --> 01:57:06.479 wizard, though, was he? He got that from Chaos. 01:57:06.979 --> 01:57:09.520 Oh, yeah, no. I thought you meant like Tabletop. 01:57:09.560 --> 01:57:12.319 No, he became a wizard through Chaos. A fire 01:57:12.319 --> 01:57:17.220 wizard in Touchable Warhammer, isn't he? He kind 01:57:17.220 --> 01:57:19.500 of is more of a... Again, he's a warrior sort 01:57:19.500 --> 01:57:21.920 of thing. The magic enhances his abilities, but 01:57:21.920 --> 01:57:25.289 he's more of a... He has magic because he's corrupted 01:57:25.289 --> 01:57:30.850 by chaos, but he's not a wizard. His fantasy 01:57:30.850 --> 01:57:34.010 stats are even worse, which I know at least Eli 01:57:34.010 --> 01:57:37.609 would be able to appreciate this stat line. Where 01:57:37.609 --> 01:57:40.930 is it? Movement four. That's not much, right? 01:57:41.109 --> 01:57:45.050 Weapon skill nine. Ballistic skill five. Strength 01:57:45.050 --> 01:57:49.109 five. Toughness five. Four wounds. Initiative 01:57:49.109 --> 01:57:53.500 seven. Attacks five. And leadership ten. crazy 01:57:53.500 --> 01:57:57.020 he's going to kill you he's just he's that secret 01:57:57.020 --> 01:57:59.020 character you need cheat codes to unlock but 01:57:59.020 --> 01:58:02.520 the cheat code is just money oh he also has a 01:58:02.520 --> 01:58:09.880 one -up armor safe fuck you awesome do you think 01:58:09.880 --> 01:58:12.659 um is that is that just because chaos armies 01:58:12.659 --> 01:58:14.880 have been so legendarily bad for so long they're 01:58:14.880 --> 01:58:17.970 like screw it Archeon's going to be on top. To 01:58:17.970 --> 01:58:21.890 be fair, he was 855 points, although then again, 01:58:21.970 --> 01:58:24.170 in 8th edition, they dropped him down to 580 01:58:24.170 --> 01:58:29.170 and he had the same stat line. Wow. Would you 01:58:29.170 --> 01:58:34.350 say putting Archeon versus Abaddon, what makes 01:58:34.350 --> 01:58:38.729 Archeon come out on top? I mean, one is the obvious. 01:58:38.750 --> 01:58:41.010 I know it was Arthur Fiat, but again, he did 01:58:41.010 --> 01:58:46.260 end the world. He won. Well, Abaddon ended our 01:58:46.260 --> 01:58:50.640 world. It was called Cadia. That's true. I don't 01:58:50.640 --> 01:58:53.000 know, it has a lot more cut out for him. He does 01:58:53.000 --> 01:58:56.460 have a whole galaxy to cut through. He's broken 01:58:56.460 --> 01:58:59.960 a lot of worlds. He has. Nasty boy. I don't know, 01:59:00.000 --> 01:59:03.659 I'm more partial to Archeon. One is, this is 01:59:03.659 --> 01:59:05.460 a very basic thing, I just think Archeon looks 01:59:05.460 --> 01:59:09.500 cooler. I think that armor is sicker. And either 01:59:09.500 --> 01:59:14.199 Flaming Horse or... whatever I'm looking at with 01:59:14.199 --> 01:59:16.779 Dorgor nowadays. I don't know what to call that. 01:59:17.239 --> 01:59:22.260 Whatever it is, it looks cool. He's playable 01:59:22.260 --> 01:59:24.020 in a video game. I know some of these are not 01:59:24.020 --> 01:59:26.239 necessarily Abaddon's fault, but they do still 01:59:26.239 --> 01:59:29.579 help Archeon be a bit more appreciable. You can 01:59:29.579 --> 01:59:37.319 throw him at people. Aside from that, some of 01:59:37.319 --> 01:59:41.380 it seems like Abaddon was almost handed the position. 01:59:43.800 --> 01:59:48.000 You just gave me a point. We were talking about 01:59:48.000 --> 01:59:50.880 Gothic Armada a while back. In the game where 01:59:50.880 --> 01:59:54.260 Abaddon is in it, it's not canon, but the character 01:59:54.260 --> 01:59:56.960 who's his subordinate beats Gilliman in a naval 01:59:56.960 --> 02:00:00.100 battle and captures him. And then he tries to 02:00:00.100 --> 02:00:02.340 usurp Abaddon. And that's in the game where it's 02:00:02.340 --> 02:00:05.140 a chaos campaign. Abaddon gets cucked in his 02:00:05.140 --> 02:00:10.079 own game. Wow. By Thanos from the Word Bearers. 02:00:10.100 --> 02:00:15.840 It's crazy. I prefer Archeon over Abaddon in 02:00:15.840 --> 02:00:19.520 the sense that it's very clearly put out in the 02:00:19.520 --> 02:00:23.159 Night Lords trilogy when Talos, the Night Lord, 02:00:23.220 --> 02:00:26.399 literally first meets Abaddon. and abaddon basically 02:00:26.399 --> 02:00:28.699 they're conquering this world and it's like it's 02:00:28.699 --> 02:00:30.600 going well but then like the blood angels and 02:00:30.600 --> 02:00:32.779 imperium show up and they have to like retreat 02:00:32.779 --> 02:00:34.760 because abaddon hasn't got the right forces and 02:00:34.760 --> 02:00:36.539 it's all he has too many renegades and not enough 02:00:36.539 --> 02:00:39.859 like proper legionaries and stuff it's the thing 02:00:39.859 --> 02:00:43.060 where like abaddon in itself is like archaeon 02:00:43.060 --> 02:00:47.100 is what abaddon wishes he could be like abaddon 02:00:47.100 --> 02:00:50.000 is a very effective commander but in a world 02:00:50.000 --> 02:00:54.090 where there are Primarchs and resources beyond 02:00:54.090 --> 02:01:00.569 what Abaddon can master together. Abaddon can 02:01:00.569 --> 02:01:03.590 never have the success of what Archeon could 02:01:03.590 --> 02:01:08.130 pull together. To be fair, he did beat Maneus 02:01:08.130 --> 02:01:11.010 Kalgar up, but until he beats a Primarch, I don't 02:01:11.010 --> 02:01:12.569 think we're going to really treat him that seriously. 02:01:13.310 --> 02:01:16.149 Sigismund wounds him, he gets beaten by Nathaniel 02:01:16.149 --> 02:01:19.329 Garrow, technically with the help of Endred Haar 02:01:19.329 --> 02:01:22.829 and the Blood Angels guy. and someone else. It's 02:01:22.829 --> 02:01:24.609 like three of them gang up on Abaddon during 02:01:24.609 --> 02:01:26.890 the Siege of Terror, and he's like, and he almost 02:01:26.890 --> 02:01:30.210 gets killed by Garrow. There's too many teleport 02:01:30.210 --> 02:01:33.270 -away Abaddon moments, isn't there? Archeon doesn't 02:01:33.270 --> 02:01:38.229 have that. Archeon, I feel like he uses all four 02:01:38.229 --> 02:01:41.909 bits of the Chaos Gods a lot better than Abaddon 02:01:41.909 --> 02:01:45.250 does, because Abaddon's a good general, a damn 02:01:45.250 --> 02:01:49.130 good warrior, but Archeon acknowledges he lives 02:01:49.130 --> 02:01:53.289 in a fantasy world. and uses that. Like, obviously, 02:01:53.390 --> 02:01:55.090 you know, Khorne, he can smash with the best 02:01:55.090 --> 02:01:57.949 of them. But, like, in Age of Sigmar, he traps, 02:01:58.130 --> 02:02:00.890 like, a bunch of Tzeentch summoners and, like, 02:02:00.909 --> 02:02:04.829 they amplify the weaknesses of anyone coming. 02:02:04.949 --> 02:02:07.430 So when he tries to send some Khorne warriors 02:02:07.430 --> 02:02:09.989 after these summoners, they just fall to rage 02:02:09.989 --> 02:02:13.350 and chop each other to pieces. Archeon, you know, 02:02:13.350 --> 02:02:16.879 he traps them, like, in their own tower. and 02:02:16.879 --> 02:02:19.000 amplifies their fears against them. It feels 02:02:19.000 --> 02:02:21.279 very Zetian when he deals with people like that. 02:02:24.000 --> 02:02:27.960 He brings chaos to the fore. He uses the fantasy 02:02:27.960 --> 02:02:30.500 powers he's at at his disposal, which Abaddon 02:02:30.500 --> 02:02:32.920 kind of refusing to do that in some ways does 02:02:32.920 --> 02:02:36.380 make him compelling in his own way, but I feel 02:02:36.380 --> 02:02:41.359 more interested in the guy who's reveling almost 02:02:41.359 --> 02:02:48.289 in his fantastical powers. I was going to say, 02:02:48.369 --> 02:02:51.449 and it sounds like a big part of his character 02:02:51.449 --> 02:02:54.170 is he's pitted against Sigmar as a specific target. 02:02:54.329 --> 02:02:56.750 Like, I hate this freaking guy. Oh, he's a god. 02:02:57.670 --> 02:03:00.970 Abaddon's like, I hate the Imperium, kind of 02:03:00.970 --> 02:03:03.170 hate the Emperor, but I'm not massively... He 02:03:03.170 --> 02:03:06.729 wants to depose the Emperor, but his gripe is 02:03:06.729 --> 02:03:09.470 with the Imperium entire, whereas the grudge 02:03:09.470 --> 02:03:13.420 match with Archeon is Sigmar. We're not going 02:03:13.420 --> 02:03:15.560 to see a grudge match with the Emperor, I don't 02:03:15.560 --> 02:03:18.699 think. Plus, I mean, it did happen to Archeon 02:03:18.699 --> 02:03:22.920 a little bit, but seeing Archeon go through that 02:03:22.920 --> 02:03:25.939 journey to get the Treasures of Chaos makes it 02:03:25.939 --> 02:03:29.199 feel a lot more earned. Towards the Horus heresy, 02:03:29.340 --> 02:03:31.479 they were kind of like, suddenly Horus wasn't 02:03:31.479 --> 02:03:33.079 even gone yet, and they were suddenly like, come 02:03:33.079 --> 02:03:35.720 on, Abaddon. Be the next big guy. We know you 02:03:35.720 --> 02:03:37.579 want to. Come on, let's put you in that position. 02:03:38.319 --> 02:03:41.090 Which, again, Abaddon did. fight tooth and nail 02:03:41.090 --> 02:03:43.090 for that, killed the Clone of Horus, gathered 02:03:43.090 --> 02:03:45.829 all the warbands. He put in work too, it's just... 02:03:45.829 --> 02:03:50.869 I just feel like that's... He needs a quest. 02:03:51.189 --> 02:03:55.409 Abaddon needs a Arkham Star quest. He's already 02:03:55.409 --> 02:03:57.369 done it. He did his Dark Pilgrimage and he's 02:03:57.369 --> 02:04:00.369 like, I learned how to brew alcohol with Promethean. 02:04:00.390 --> 02:04:04.899 It's great. From the point of view of a man who 02:04:04.899 --> 02:04:07.260 respects a good drink, good for you, Abaddon. 02:04:07.819 --> 02:04:10.399 And there is a bit in the Black Legion first 02:04:10.399 --> 02:04:12.260 book where it's like, and he went through the 02:04:12.260 --> 02:04:13.399 Eye of Terror and he went through all these things 02:04:13.399 --> 02:04:15.699 and he killed all these things. It's just kind 02:04:15.699 --> 02:04:17.479 of done all of a sudden. You're like, oh, I would 02:04:17.479 --> 02:04:19.079 have loved to have read a book where it's like, 02:04:19.140 --> 02:04:21.880 I get to see that. But it's like, nah, you just 02:04:21.880 --> 02:04:23.539 see him displaying all the things he's done off 02:04:23.539 --> 02:04:26.880 screen. Abaddon needs the third Black Legion 02:04:26.880 --> 02:04:29.119 book whenever it comes out. It needs to show 02:04:29.119 --> 02:04:32.359 Abaddon like... on his quest to basically get 02:04:32.359 --> 02:04:35.079 draconian or something there needs to be some 02:04:35.079 --> 02:04:38.600 kind of like and then he actually you know became 02:04:38.600 --> 02:04:42.880 the full incarnation of himself rather than you 02:04:42.880 --> 02:04:45.439 know i mean maybe that's wishful thinking but 02:04:45.439 --> 02:04:48.920 um archon's story is pretty it's hard because 02:04:48.920 --> 02:04:51.420 like he is successful in killing the franchise 02:04:51.420 --> 02:04:54.779 that you love but also in a way like he didn't 02:04:54.779 --> 02:04:56.619 feel like it was handed to him you know i mean 02:04:56.619 --> 02:04:59.079 like it feels like he earned his thing of like 02:04:59.079 --> 02:05:01.020 he went through the whole journey of becoming 02:05:01.020 --> 02:05:03.680 the ever chosen and he was actually you know 02:05:03.680 --> 02:05:06.279 strong enough to basically become the villain 02:05:06.279 --> 02:05:11.380 of his own story yeah yeah big ups fantasy is 02:05:11.380 --> 02:05:21.859 just better than 40k in a fantasy world and there 02:05:21.859 --> 02:05:25.220 isn't a entire galaxy world it definitely still 02:05:25.220 --> 02:05:27.739 zone in on it they just don't choose to do it 02:05:28.810 --> 02:05:32.329 I think it's just a fantasy. It always feels 02:05:32.329 --> 02:05:35.489 like it has an arc or a story, whereas 40K is 02:05:35.489 --> 02:05:38.409 just an ongoing. It has nothing to do with 40K. 02:05:38.729 --> 02:05:42.970 I will say, although it's quite well known, I 02:05:42.970 --> 02:05:45.029 agree with Eli on that point. I will say part 02:05:45.029 --> 02:05:47.630 of the charm of 40K is the sandbox. Make your 02:05:47.630 --> 02:05:51.430 own stories. That's why it was locked at M4999 02:05:51.430 --> 02:05:56.850 for like 20 real life years. Yeah. yeah we can't 02:05:56.850 --> 02:06:01.649 say they're like oh um 0 1 2 42 i gotta get a 02:06:01.649 --> 02:06:04.649 move on guys we've barely started it's 900 years 02:06:04.649 --> 02:06:09.310 to go i think 40k is a better exploration of 02:06:09.310 --> 02:06:11.949 chaos and a lot of other things but as in like 02:06:11.949 --> 02:06:15.270 it often really struggles with what is like undivided 02:06:15.270 --> 02:06:18.010 chaos because in a way like it always says like 02:06:18.010 --> 02:06:19.729 that's just you know it's just quote unquote 02:06:19.729 --> 02:06:24.060 evil Whereas it doesn't have the vices of each 02:06:24.060 --> 02:06:27.899 particular chaos god. Sir, this is Warhammer 02:06:27.899 --> 02:06:30.319 40k. Everyone here is evil. I'm going to need 02:06:30.319 --> 02:06:33.239 more than that. But you know what I mean? Except 02:06:33.239 --> 02:06:36.619 for Commander Farsight. It goes into the vices 02:06:36.619 --> 02:06:40.699 of each particular version of corruption or chaos. 02:06:40.880 --> 02:06:44.159 Whereas chaos undivided is quite hard to do because 02:06:44.159 --> 02:06:48.310 it's none of the... each one particularly strong. 02:06:48.569 --> 02:06:53.829 It's all of them in a mixed way. It's just evil. 02:06:54.170 --> 02:06:56.890 It is in 40k. It's just kind of awkward, like 02:06:56.890 --> 02:07:00.930 evil juice. Sarah, are you lobotomizing or eating 02:07:00.930 --> 02:07:05.409 the babies? One of them is a good holy imperial 02:07:05.409 --> 02:07:09.529 practice. We need cherubs to carry the ammunition. 02:07:09.869 --> 02:07:11.649 It's fine. I didn't like what you were saying 02:07:11.649 --> 02:07:15.840 with Archeon's story. He's willing to... fluctuates 02:07:15.840 --> 02:07:18.500 between using each one as a strength rather than 02:07:18.500 --> 02:07:22.060 I'm Abaddon and I'm evil. It's I am Archeon and 02:07:22.060 --> 02:07:24.039 I'm using the Zeen stuff today. I'm embracing 02:07:24.039 --> 02:07:26.880 Khorne today. I'm embracing Slaanesh or embracing 02:07:26.880 --> 02:07:30.300 Nurgle today. Which again does show up on the 02:07:30.300 --> 02:07:32.880 tabletop. Him being a wizard, him being unbelievably 02:07:32.880 --> 02:07:37.260 strong, him being not only for a Warhammer fantasy 02:07:37.260 --> 02:07:39.739 character having an unbelievable amount of attacks 02:07:39.739 --> 02:07:42.020 that do a lot of damage which is Slaanesh and 02:07:42.020 --> 02:07:45.619 Khorne showing through. The variety of him being 02:07:45.619 --> 02:07:49.960 the ever -chosen of Chaos is in display in lore 02:07:49.960 --> 02:07:53.020 and tabletop. I feel Abaddon could use a bit 02:07:53.020 --> 02:07:55.979 more of a hand on that front. Which, again, if 02:07:55.979 --> 02:07:58.000 they want to keep him kind of refusing to go 02:07:58.000 --> 02:08:00.260 all Chaos, you can do cool things with that, 02:08:00.340 --> 02:08:03.000 but you need to do the cool things with that. 02:08:03.319 --> 02:08:05.520 Getting your ass beat by Eldrad doesn't count. 02:08:07.420 --> 02:08:10.529 As much as I appreciate it. Do you have any more 02:08:10.529 --> 02:08:13.289 donations to go through before we wrap up? We 02:08:13.289 --> 02:08:16.350 have seven at the moment. So one from Bulger's 02:08:16.350 --> 02:08:19.729 Beef Paste. Five pounds. The most British name 02:08:19.729 --> 02:08:22.890 ever. Which is more badass? A dwarf slayer jumping 02:08:22.890 --> 02:08:25.970 into a horde of demons yelling Grimnir! Or a 02:08:25.970 --> 02:08:27.869 blood angel leaping into a horde of demons yelling 02:08:27.869 --> 02:08:31.710 Taurus! I think the Grimnir is obviously... Good. 02:08:33.250 --> 02:08:37.109 Stocky Rage is fun. We love Stocky Rage. Oh my 02:08:37.109 --> 02:08:39.909 god. Thank you for the five New Zealand dollars. 02:08:40.090 --> 02:08:42.930 Thank you. Long live forehead crimes. Thank you. 02:08:42.970 --> 02:08:44.890 Thanks for all the content to get me through 02:08:44.890 --> 02:08:46.609 work. You are welcome. Thanks for everything. 02:08:46.649 --> 02:08:51.670 No problem, man. No problem. Thank you. Limba106, 02:08:51.930 --> 02:08:55.350 five bucks. Our friend late to Middenheim due 02:08:55.350 --> 02:09:00.069 to gooding to Emmanuel von Liebowitz. Wow. Maybe. 02:09:01.550 --> 02:09:07.569 Clean yourself. Sounds like Colin likes this 02:09:07.569 --> 02:09:12.229 one. No, I don't like this one. Even Black Templars 02:09:12.229 --> 02:09:14.630 had more going on during the Psychic Awakening. 02:09:16.489 --> 02:09:19.010 I've just seen Beastman from Sweden in the chat. 02:09:19.189 --> 02:09:21.329 Bro, where have you been? This is a fantasy episode. 02:09:21.609 --> 02:09:24.550 Where have you been, man? He donated, I think. 02:09:24.729 --> 02:09:27.729 I think it was a different Swedish person. That 02:09:27.729 --> 02:09:30.710 message right there is the... is why the fantasy 02:09:30.710 --> 02:09:33.609 settings are better. Even if you think the writing 02:09:33.609 --> 02:09:36.729 in AOS and fantasy is awful, at least everyone 02:09:36.729 --> 02:09:40.109 gets equal writing. Although, to be fair, the 02:09:40.109 --> 02:09:42.630 Black Templars are legendary for not allowing 02:09:42.630 --> 02:09:44.729 librarians into their shop because they hate 02:09:44.729 --> 02:09:47.130 mutants of all kinds. Having a whale of a time 02:09:47.130 --> 02:09:50.090 when there's lots of mutants to purge does make 02:09:50.090 --> 02:09:53.140 sense. I'm sure that didn't need to be more than 02:09:53.140 --> 02:09:56.199 the various psychic races, though. And then they 02:09:56.199 --> 02:09:59.920 killed more psychers, wow. Yeah, they're having 02:09:59.920 --> 02:10:02.739 a great time. Those were two sentences. I'm satisfied, 02:10:03.079 --> 02:10:06.619 I've had all I need. Been two bucks, thank you, 02:10:06.619 --> 02:10:09.460 Benoit. Archeon got decked in the nerdlings. 02:10:10.060 --> 02:10:15.819 Wow, truly. My word. Tom Warren. Do you want 02:10:15.819 --> 02:10:18.880 this one? You guys jumped in there. Hell yeah, 02:10:19.020 --> 02:10:22.560 Halfling's number one. My halfling character 02:10:22.560 --> 02:10:25.319 stopped a demon summoning in a Warhammer fantasy 02:10:25.319 --> 02:10:30.220 roleplay. He brained an old lady into the rock. 02:10:31.079 --> 02:10:35.180 Finally, card shark for two Canadian bucks. Abaddon 02:10:35.180 --> 02:10:38.800 needs his grind set story. Yes, he does. He needs 02:10:38.800 --> 02:10:44.340 a podcast. Someone did put something in the chat 02:10:44.340 --> 02:10:47.579 that inconsistency is an issue in 40k writing. 02:10:47.840 --> 02:10:51.460 That fantasy has it. better uh i would say they 02:10:51.460 --> 02:10:53.460 do unless you were talking about the vampires 02:10:53.460 --> 02:10:57.680 welcome to hell pick your origin story there's 02:10:57.680 --> 02:11:01.159 like five yeah that's cool because you could 02:11:01.159 --> 02:11:03.420 just like pretend it's a myth and nobody really 02:11:03.420 --> 02:11:07.199 it's cool like that it's it's just like give 02:11:07.199 --> 02:11:09.640 me like three yeah i know it's a nice even number 02:11:09.640 --> 02:11:15.739 i don't need five per character as well Well, 02:11:15.880 --> 02:11:18.020 I was going to say, with the elves, at least 02:11:18.020 --> 02:11:20.500 in 40k, there's five Eldar books I think everyone 02:11:20.500 --> 02:11:24.319 wished weren't there. Elves actually get to do 02:11:24.319 --> 02:11:26.579 stuff in fantasy. People like the elf books in 02:11:26.579 --> 02:11:29.920 fantasy and AOS. But dark elves get the dark 02:11:29.920 --> 02:11:32.840 elves get the Eldar treatment or the chaos treatment, 02:11:33.020 --> 02:11:36.960 I guess. If they ever win, then they have to 02:11:36.960 --> 02:11:39.180 stop making high elves and they never win anything. 02:11:39.539 --> 02:11:42.399 I still don't know why, for me, I'm really drawn 02:11:42.399 --> 02:11:46.500 to elves and Tolkien stuff and all the fantasy 02:11:46.500 --> 02:11:48.260 and other things. And yet when it comes to the 02:11:48.260 --> 02:11:52.039 40k stuff, I really have no draw to it. I don't 02:11:52.039 --> 02:11:53.199 know why. It doesn't feel like it translates. 02:11:53.579 --> 02:11:56.020 It doesn't feel like the same thing. I think 02:11:56.020 --> 02:12:00.079 one of the troubles with the Eldar in 40k is 02:12:00.079 --> 02:12:02.680 that because they're already an obliterated species 02:12:02.680 --> 02:12:07.680 who have only so much power, the Imperium's whole 02:12:07.680 --> 02:12:10.640 thing is they're a horde of people. Chaos is 02:12:10.640 --> 02:12:13.899 a horde of demons. tower are burgeoning new species, 02:12:14.079 --> 02:12:17.800 and then Eldar are already kind of done. We're 02:12:17.800 --> 02:12:19.699 already broken up in our craft, and every time 02:12:19.699 --> 02:12:25.399 we lose a craft... The cycle of empires has gone 02:12:25.399 --> 02:12:30.079 through. The Eldar are the fallen one, the Imperiums 02:12:30.079 --> 02:12:32.159 the crumbling one, and the tower the rising one. 02:12:33.000 --> 02:12:35.539 Which means the Eldar have the unfortunate position 02:12:35.539 --> 02:12:40.090 of being the guys who... Your time is over. Which, 02:12:40.109 --> 02:12:41.970 you know, that's a major theme for everyone but 02:12:41.970 --> 02:12:44.289 the Tau in 40k, is that the glories of the past 02:12:44.289 --> 02:12:48.210 are gone, but the Eldars are, like, really gone. 02:12:49.449 --> 02:12:51.090 I think it's because I think, like, with, like, 02:12:51.090 --> 02:12:54.149 Eldar, they have, like, the path system, which, 02:12:54.270 --> 02:12:56.829 for me, in a way, is, like, character -muting, 02:12:56.909 --> 02:13:00.689 like, potential, in a way, because it's, like, 02:13:00.689 --> 02:13:03.770 we all have to stick on this same, like, basically, 02:13:03.789 --> 02:13:05.329 we all have to be carbon copies of each other, 02:13:05.430 --> 02:13:07.630 whereas I feel like in fantasy, it's, like... 02:13:08.640 --> 02:13:10.140 They can abandon the past whenever they like, 02:13:10.140 --> 02:13:13.539 though. But they don't even explore that, really. 02:13:14.239 --> 02:13:17.819 Whereas in fantasy, an elf is kind of like, it 02:13:17.819 --> 02:13:20.399 is in a way, I can view them as human characters, 02:13:20.539 --> 02:13:22.180 and they have their own motivations and other 02:13:22.180 --> 02:13:24.779 things. Whereas Eldar, I almost feel like they're 02:13:24.779 --> 02:13:27.819 so too divorced from humans that I can't quite 02:13:27.819 --> 02:13:30.560 get into the mind. I mean, they're aliens. My 02:13:30.560 --> 02:13:35.399 most radical thing is that if they wanted to 02:13:35.399 --> 02:13:37.899 make the Eldar cool, to more people they would 02:13:37.899 --> 02:13:40.880 need to go all in on the unknowable fey nature 02:13:40.880 --> 02:13:44.380 and not give them books which i know sounds insane 02:13:44.380 --> 02:13:47.439 yeah but you can't have them both because as 02:13:47.439 --> 02:13:50.819 it is they try and do like the unknowable like 02:13:50.819 --> 02:13:54.739 manipulator shtick and also humanize them and 02:13:54.739 --> 02:13:57.140 they just come across as stupid yeah but there's 02:13:57.140 --> 02:13:59.239 also one thing i found when i was reading the 02:13:59.239 --> 02:14:01.819 craft world book specifically was like On the 02:14:01.819 --> 02:14:04.779 one hand, there are species that are circling 02:14:04.779 --> 02:14:07.520 the proverbial drain of extinction. But at the 02:14:07.520 --> 02:14:09.560 same time, they're the only race in the whole 02:14:09.560 --> 02:14:11.659 setting who are like, I'm just going to spend 02:14:11.659 --> 02:14:14.060 the next 100 years being an artist. I'm going 02:14:14.060 --> 02:14:16.060 to live in this lovely, lush craft world where 02:14:16.060 --> 02:14:18.699 there's no war or suffering. We've got plenty. 02:14:18.840 --> 02:14:20.880 And even though we're a completely crippled empire, 02:14:21.739 --> 02:14:24.680 everything's great other than that. Can we have 02:14:24.680 --> 02:14:27.979 one or the other? It's weird to be like, this 02:14:27.979 --> 02:14:30.359 is the grim darkness of the 41st millennium. 02:14:31.420 --> 02:14:34.760 I'm going to pick up sculpting as my livelihood. 02:14:35.340 --> 02:14:41.520 It's like, huh? They're all trained. You know 02:14:41.520 --> 02:14:43.520 what? They could borrow something from fantasy 02:14:43.520 --> 02:14:50.699 into 40k. Chaos Eldar. Honestly, Chaos Eldar. 02:14:51.060 --> 02:14:55.359 They almost did. There was like old Rogue Trader 02:14:55.359 --> 02:14:58.420 lore, like little bits of blurbs where it's like... 02:14:58.600 --> 02:15:00.520 There might be some Eldar hanging around the 02:15:00.520 --> 02:15:02.539 Eye of Terror still on the Crone Worlds, but 02:15:02.539 --> 02:15:05.760 they're not normal. We don't need chaos to be 02:15:05.760 --> 02:15:07.939 interesting, though. They don't need chaos to 02:15:07.939 --> 02:15:11.100 be cool. That does happen, though. There's an 02:15:11.100 --> 02:15:14.119 Eldar of one of the Craft Worlds gets manipulated 02:15:14.119 --> 02:15:17.199 by Sinch, and then... uh motley the harlequin 02:15:17.199 --> 02:15:19.539 is like oh go check out the wild spirit of this 02:15:19.539 --> 02:15:22.220 planet don't worry there's just this crazy incubus 02:15:22.220 --> 02:15:24.319 going in there and he's fighting it like oh okay 02:15:24.319 --> 02:15:26.720 this won't go wrong and he's like big grin on 02:15:26.720 --> 02:15:28.880 his face and he like swaps out one of his runes 02:15:28.880 --> 02:15:31.960 with like a kegarak rune so when he tries to 02:15:31.960 --> 02:15:36.020 cast a spell he becomes like possessed and say 02:15:36.020 --> 02:15:38.560 ah so it does happen just not very often it's 02:15:38.560 --> 02:15:40.479 never like a notable character it's always a 02:15:40.479 --> 02:15:43.779 pawn there was that demon Eldar demon in the 02:15:43.779 --> 02:15:47.100 Inari books, if I remember correctly. And all 02:15:47.100 --> 02:15:54.920 Eldar demons become Slaaneshi anyway. Eldar really 02:15:54.920 --> 02:15:58.779 needs that. Slayer Barden having zero top categories. 02:15:59.140 --> 02:16:02.800 This is yet another Furmentide balancing moment. 02:16:03.220 --> 02:16:08.479 Amazing. Anything else from that? Question of 02:16:08.479 --> 02:16:13.890 the week? Ah, yes. Did we get the previous ones? 02:16:14.069 --> 02:16:15.930 I was going to ask. Did you get the previous 02:16:15.930 --> 02:16:21.210 ones? I didn't. I was yammering. Give me a minute. 02:16:21.430 --> 02:16:29.010 I'll go look. Nobody told me. Hold. I'm opening 02:16:29.010 --> 02:16:34.309 it. For people who are in the chat, let us know 02:16:34.309 --> 02:16:37.989 if you guys want any more particular fantasy 02:16:37.989 --> 02:16:41.840 podcast topics. may not for everyone but obviously 02:16:41.840 --> 02:16:46.239 fantasy is a is a fantastic uh universe in itself 02:16:46.239 --> 02:16:49.239 can you know different from 40k there's so much 02:16:49.239 --> 02:16:51.979 crossover chaos is not the same in each one of 02:16:51.979 --> 02:16:53.719 them so there's like there's so many different 02:16:53.719 --> 02:16:56.540 like topics that are crossovers but yet they 02:16:56.540 --> 02:16:59.479 have variety so feel free to actively send us 02:16:59.479 --> 02:17:01.120 you know in the comment section as well as also 02:17:01.120 --> 02:17:04.219 in the chat and then obviously all the discord 02:17:04.219 --> 02:17:07.600 as well because we do have a discord We recently 02:17:07.600 --> 02:17:10.920 in the Discord reached a thousand members, which 02:17:10.920 --> 02:17:14.520 is crazy. Thank you all for joining. We have 02:17:14.520 --> 02:17:18.899 memes. It's good fun. I hate you, Rarus Pepe. 02:17:19.159 --> 02:17:29.659 Fuck you, man. Who would you put to be the Tau's 02:17:29.659 --> 02:17:33.879 newest little race of buddies? I think the Tau 02:17:33.879 --> 02:17:35.920 deserve chakats. If you know, then you know. 02:17:36.040 --> 02:17:38.739 P .S. I bet Colin knows. I do know and I hate 02:17:38.739 --> 02:17:42.920 you for reminding me of that. Look it up. It's 02:17:42.920 --> 02:17:47.420 disgusting. I don't know what that means. The 02:17:47.420 --> 02:17:50.979 author is not at all disguised. Oh my gosh. Come 02:17:50.979 --> 02:17:57.540 on. I would choose not to look it up. It's furry 02:17:57.540 --> 02:18:02.340 stuff, Andy. It's furry stuff. Oh, no. Bridge. 02:18:02.860 --> 02:18:07.399 Holy cow. PBR Ratlord. Hashtag helper. I think 02:18:07.399 --> 02:18:09.379 Andy was on the right track, actually, but for 02:18:09.379 --> 02:18:12.559 entirely different reasons. Grunts are regularly 02:18:12.559 --> 02:18:15.239 in excess of five feet, making them giants compared 02:18:15.239 --> 02:18:21.040 to the lore criminals. And they are a genuinely 02:18:21.040 --> 02:18:23.180 terrifying as a force to the point the rebellion 02:18:23.180 --> 02:18:25.700 nearly broke the covenant. That's true. Ongoing 02:18:25.700 --> 02:18:29.170 supremacy. Huge. They have numbers like the guard, 02:18:29.290 --> 02:18:30.690 weapons that would put a hurt on about anything 02:18:30.690 --> 02:18:32.530 in 40k, and when they're oppressed, they have 02:18:32.530 --> 02:18:35.450 ferocity and tenacity to rival the orcs. Feed 02:18:35.450 --> 02:18:37.090 them and treat them remotely well, and you have 02:18:37.090 --> 02:18:39.030 plenty of meat for the galactic grinder. Hope 02:18:39.030 --> 02:18:41.370 to catch you all live next week. Thank you, man. 02:18:41.450 --> 02:18:45.270 Thank you. Shout out to that grunt deacon who 02:18:45.270 --> 02:18:49.190 accidentally activated a nova bomb, and his last 02:18:49.190 --> 02:18:51.709 words were, and then he was never cold again. 02:18:52.649 --> 02:18:56.139 So, Colin. Your opinion. Is there anything more 02:18:56.139 --> 02:18:59.500 terrifying than playing Halo and you pan across 02:18:59.500 --> 02:19:02.760 only to find a suicide grunt with the two grenades 02:19:02.760 --> 02:19:05.559 just in front of you that you didn't notice? 02:19:05.879 --> 02:19:08.979 That's the second most terrifying thing. The 02:19:08.979 --> 02:19:11.540 most terrifying thing is that same thing but 02:19:11.540 --> 02:19:17.020 with a rocket flood. I love the library. You 02:19:17.020 --> 02:19:22.569 can't take a look at the library. It's when it's 02:19:22.569 --> 02:19:24.170 coming at you and you know you can't dodge, you 02:19:24.170 --> 02:19:26.389 go, ah! Yeah, it's just like, well, I see my 02:19:26.389 --> 02:19:31.510 death oncoming. This one is... I'll get two more 02:19:31.510 --> 02:19:33.290 because one of them was gross and disgusting. 02:19:35.590 --> 02:19:38.430 Nerdcasting40k, hashtag helpers, the Cybertronians. 02:19:39.750 --> 02:19:41.889 Optimus Prime becomes the leader of the Tau Empire 02:19:41.889 --> 02:19:45.170 and the Cybertronians get 40k alt models. Perfect. 02:19:45.659 --> 02:19:48.299 I saw a cool piece of fan art that was the Emperor 02:19:48.299 --> 02:19:50.479 and Optimus Prime fighting alongside each other. 02:19:50.579 --> 02:19:52.719 My only problem is that the Optimus Prime would 02:19:52.719 --> 02:19:55.760 never in a fucking million years be caught fighting 02:19:55.760 --> 02:20:00.139 alongside the Emperor. Freedom is the right of 02:20:00.139 --> 02:20:02.639 all sentient beings does not mesh well, but I 02:20:02.639 --> 02:20:06.059 know it because I am right. Or the guy who goes, 02:20:06.200 --> 02:20:09.799 yeah, servitors are fine. Although if Optimus 02:20:09.799 --> 02:20:13.440 would be a fan of servitors. And then the last 02:20:13.440 --> 02:20:17.079 one, hashtag helper. The Osiarch Bone Reapers. 02:20:18.260 --> 02:20:20.399 Not only would you gain the support of one of 02:20:20.399 --> 02:20:22.479 Nagash's armies, you have an effective way to 02:20:22.479 --> 02:20:24.659 cull the human population of the Empire through 02:20:24.659 --> 02:20:28.000 the bone tithe. With the added bonus of not being 02:20:28.000 --> 02:20:30.379 held accountable for the cull, because that's 02:20:30.379 --> 02:20:31.959 just the cost of doing business with the Bone 02:20:31.959 --> 02:20:35.100 Reapers. And then, of course, he ends it with, 02:20:35.139 --> 02:20:37.000 such is the power of Nagash. Thank you, Angry 02:20:37.000 --> 02:20:45.010 Homunculus. Amazing. Very good. Well for helper 02:20:45.010 --> 02:20:48.430 helper species, I think I was gonna choose one 02:20:48.430 --> 02:20:52.290 last time Whatever the sentience we're all talking 02:20:52.290 --> 02:20:54.629 things from Alvin and the chipmunk, but not the 02:20:54.629 --> 02:20:58.809 actual shit money The the parody movie that had 02:20:58.809 --> 02:21:02.030 Alvin the chipmunks. That's kind of like what 02:21:02.030 --> 02:21:04.750 was the? I don't remember the name of the film, 02:21:04.809 --> 02:21:06.549 but it's like Epic Movie. It's like a similar 02:21:06.549 --> 02:21:10.909 franchise. Whatever that is. Yeah, the guy who 02:21:10.909 --> 02:21:14.610 watches those movies. And then like Eating the 02:21:14.610 --> 02:21:17.250 Woman's Spike. Hold on, Hal. What was your opinion 02:21:17.250 --> 02:21:19.950 of Sausage Party? Did you enjoy that movie? I've 02:21:19.950 --> 02:21:26.209 not seen it. Doubt. I'm sure that's no great 02:21:26.209 --> 02:21:30.129 loss. But if I would have a helper species, I'd 02:21:30.129 --> 02:21:33.270 get the Krogans involved. Oh, you fucker. Eight 02:21:33.270 --> 02:21:36.829 foot tall, ribbit, ribbit, carry the shotgun 02:21:36.829 --> 02:21:39.950 men. They'd be pretty good. That was going to 02:21:39.950 --> 02:21:42.909 be my answer, you bastard. Oh, sorry. Colin, 02:21:42.969 --> 02:21:49.489 what were you going to pick? The Gungans. Break 02:21:49.489 --> 02:21:55.389 it off. The last nail in the coffin for the Tau. 02:21:55.829 --> 02:22:00.069 Oh my gosh. You're one of the few Imperial Commanders 02:22:00.069 --> 02:22:02.350 that does diplomacy and you walk out to the Tau 02:22:02.350 --> 02:22:08.770 Embassy and you're... You should give credit 02:22:08.770 --> 02:22:13.649 to Tau Empire, yes sir? Thank you, George Lucas. 02:22:14.049 --> 02:22:16.889 Why are there loads of alien races that are basically 02:22:16.889 --> 02:22:22.129 ethnic minorities? That's a great question, George. 02:22:36.630 --> 02:22:40.049 or the the or the pettiness of george lucas that 02:22:40.049 --> 02:22:42.350 he called the new moydians as a jab at leonard 02:22:42.350 --> 02:22:44.250 nimoy and that's why they're called nemoidians 02:22:44.250 --> 02:22:47.510 like oh oh wow and then on the side they're also 02:22:47.510 --> 02:22:50.290 horrible chinese stereotypes yeah my childhood 02:22:50.290 --> 02:22:53.389 is ruined i mean the gungans as well what is 02:22:53.389 --> 02:22:57.450 that you know how oh it's just misa hayton crunching 02:22:57.709 --> 02:23:00.649 That's the last thing Mesa wants. He said to 02:23:00.649 --> 02:23:04.290 the Commissar before being shot. It's George 02:23:04.290 --> 02:23:09.690 Lucas. I need to write more Gungas. This is ridiculous. 02:23:09.969 --> 02:23:16.290 I can't unsee it. I just love I love that behind 02:23:16.290 --> 02:23:18.649 the scenes of episode one. It's just like Jar 02:23:18.649 --> 02:23:22.020 Jar is the key. Get Jar Jar right. It'll all 02:23:22.020 --> 02:23:26.739 work out. There's a bit where the Oni plays are 02:23:26.739 --> 02:23:29.159 playing a Lego Star Wars game. It's the funniest 02:23:29.159 --> 02:23:33.079 thing I've ever heard. I need to write more Gungas. 02:23:34.360 --> 02:23:41.040 The Gungas. Eli, did you pick your species? Any 02:23:41.040 --> 02:23:43.799 race from Endless Space 2, basically. Cravers. 02:23:44.520 --> 02:23:46.959 I still think the Cravers would be good. Because 02:23:46.959 --> 02:23:48.620 you can still have diplomacy with the Cravers. 02:23:49.549 --> 02:23:51.209 And then you just point them in the right direction. 02:23:51.950 --> 02:23:53.709 If there's a planet that they don't want, and 02:23:53.709 --> 02:23:56.430 they want to commit war crimes, but they don't 02:23:56.430 --> 02:23:58.649 want the Tau to do it, just send the Cravers 02:23:58.649 --> 02:24:00.969 at it, and it'll die, and they'll get the job 02:24:00.969 --> 02:24:03.170 done. Do you reckon the Tree Men would like the 02:24:03.170 --> 02:24:05.309 Tau? It's like, what do you want? I want to be 02:24:05.309 --> 02:24:08.729 more trees across more planets. Is that it? Yes. 02:24:09.190 --> 02:24:11.670 Alright, fine, Tree Man. Oh, I forgot the most 02:24:11.670 --> 02:24:17.290 important Archeon fact. He's... He sucks in Total 02:24:17.290 --> 02:24:22.209 Warhammer. At least multiplayer. He's called 02:24:22.209 --> 02:24:25.889 the Never Chosen. It's because he's not fast 02:24:25.889 --> 02:24:28.110 enough to get to things he can kill quick enough. 02:24:28.350 --> 02:24:31.389 He doesn't have a high enough DPS to mulch through 02:24:31.389 --> 02:24:34.649 tar pits. And he doesn't have enough mass compared 02:24:34.649 --> 02:24:37.989 to Kolek to just walk where he needs to be. Gotta 02:24:37.989 --> 02:24:42.129 get that SFO mod going. Do we have a new question 02:24:42.129 --> 02:24:45.329 of the week? We do. The new question of the week 02:24:45.329 --> 02:24:49.780 is hashtag Ever Chosen. This can be any setting 02:24:49.780 --> 02:24:53.780 you like. Archeon is scared of penguins. Someone 02:24:53.780 --> 02:24:57.440 in chat reminded me. Is that real? Yes, it's 02:24:57.440 --> 02:25:00.000 because he considers the beastmen of the southern 02:25:00.000 --> 02:25:02.360 pole who never really came into contact with 02:25:02.360 --> 02:25:05.260 humanity the truest, most terrifying essence 02:25:05.260 --> 02:25:08.899 of chaos. Well, that's Antarctica, so naturally, 02:25:09.180 --> 02:25:13.969 Archeon is scared of penguins. But yeah, the 02:25:13.969 --> 02:25:16.569 ever chosen hashtag is you can bring anyone from 02:25:16.569 --> 02:25:18.989 any setting into Warhammer and make them into 02:25:18.989 --> 02:25:21.489 the ever chosen. Who would you pick? I think 02:25:21.489 --> 02:25:25.149 where's Wally as the ever chosen would be hilarious 02:25:25.149 --> 02:25:27.629 because not only would he be really powerful, 02:25:27.750 --> 02:25:29.690 but it would take you 20 minutes to figure out 02:25:29.690 --> 02:25:31.709 where he was in a battle. And that'd be quite 02:25:31.709 --> 02:25:39.510 fun. Slam dunk. Easy. Bob Ross. Now, Andy, I 02:25:39.510 --> 02:25:41.760 want to, I want to see if this is. breaking the 02:25:41.760 --> 02:25:44.600 rules a little bit, but you know how the Abyss 02:25:44.600 --> 02:25:47.159 Watchers and Dark Souls 3, they're all the Lord 02:25:47.159 --> 02:25:50.700 of Cinder. None of them are individually. I would 02:25:50.700 --> 02:25:53.420 like my pick for the ever -chosen to not be one 02:25:53.420 --> 02:25:59.159 person, but every Ewok combined. Are they constantly 02:25:59.159 --> 02:26:02.040 fighting against each other? No, they're just 02:26:02.040 --> 02:26:04.579 horrified. Look, I've been playing Battlefront 02:26:04.579 --> 02:26:08.840 2, man. Ewok Hunt. That is terrifying. Those 02:26:08.840 --> 02:26:12.200 things are horrifying. Wicket, the ever -chosen, 02:26:12.219 --> 02:26:14.799 just chewing on a biscuit is terrifying. You 02:26:14.799 --> 02:26:18.319 hear, you see... Like, X dude is lost to the 02:26:18.319 --> 02:26:21.079 forest and then you hear six battle horns go 02:26:21.079 --> 02:26:27.840 off at once. Uh -oh. One of my friends just died. 02:26:28.000 --> 02:26:32.520 Truly the Viet Cong flashback, so. What inspired 02:26:32.520 --> 02:26:35.059 them to do that? Even the trailer for that gameplay 02:26:35.059 --> 02:26:39.969 mode is horrifying. amazing uh i'm assuming the 02:26:39.969 --> 02:26:41.909 dev team got drunk one night and wait do you 02:26:41.909 --> 02:26:44.649 know i'll be funny no idea it wasn't the originals 02:26:44.649 --> 02:26:47.069 to be fair original battlefront not nearly as 02:26:47.069 --> 02:26:49.030 terrifying though no but yeah no it was like 02:26:49.030 --> 02:26:52.149 it was like well well lit the ewoks were ass 02:26:52.149 --> 02:26:57.069 and now it's like infection but yeah and also 02:26:57.069 --> 02:26:59.950 galaxy conquering empire with the finest armaments 02:26:59.950 --> 02:27:04.579 and weapons available versus logs Amazing. Next 02:27:04.579 --> 02:27:09.379 versus debate. Katakan versus Ewoks. Oh, it's 02:27:09.379 --> 02:27:13.079 a washout. Katakan getting mulched. Poor fellas. 02:27:14.059 --> 02:27:18.399 One game of E1 Hunt changes a man's life. That 02:27:18.399 --> 02:27:21.739 being said, though. Oh, Dalinar Blackthorn has 02:27:21.739 --> 02:27:24.559 a good show. That being said, everyone, thank 02:27:24.559 --> 02:27:26.120 you guys so much for listening, for watching. 02:27:26.219 --> 02:27:28.739 Thank you, Colin, for guiding us through the 02:27:28.739 --> 02:27:32.010 true Warmaster. And one more donation before 02:27:32.010 --> 02:27:34.909 we go from Prime1Jr for five. Thanks for the 02:27:34.909 --> 02:27:36.389 stream, boys. I'm on my way to go see Superman 02:27:36.389 --> 02:27:42.250 with the boys. I've heard good and mediocre things, 02:27:42.370 --> 02:27:45.770 but nothing bad. So, hey. Most superhero movies 02:27:45.770 --> 02:27:51.010 nowadays. Even mid is better than most. Yeah. 02:27:51.049 --> 02:27:55.309 Again, the Discord, we have going Bob merch. 02:27:55.950 --> 02:27:59.329 I should say going to Bob much. Well, subscribe. 02:28:00.610 --> 02:28:01.909 We've made it. 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