WEBVTT 00:00:12.199 --> 00:00:14.460 hello ladies and gentlemen boys and girls it's 00:00:14.460 --> 00:00:16.960 law crimes and we're never late and there's never 00:00:16.960 --> 00:00:19.899 technical issues that threaten to imperil everything 00:00:19.899 --> 00:00:23.519 all at once ever hello everyone we are not late 00:00:23.519 --> 00:00:29.000 yeah it has never once happened No, never in 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:32.340 the history of humankind. Eli, unfortunately, 00:00:32.420 --> 00:00:36.340 will not be with us today. He has the landlord 00:00:36.340 --> 00:00:41.420 stuff, I think, and things for you. Beautiful 00:00:41.420 --> 00:00:43.740 listeners out there and for the people who are 00:00:43.740 --> 00:00:47.020 in our amazing discord. Big shout out to you 00:00:47.020 --> 00:00:50.140 guys, because today is another episode of we 00:00:50.140 --> 00:00:52.890 tried it once before, which is a. We listen and 00:00:52.890 --> 00:00:56.729 we don't judge. We don't judge. How judges in 00:00:56.729 --> 00:00:59.210 the first 10 minutes. I know. I really screwed 00:00:59.210 --> 00:01:01.409 up. I screwed the pooch, didn't I, last time. 00:01:02.649 --> 00:01:05.870 Though we, if you're listening to Law Crimes, 00:01:05.870 --> 00:01:08.349 we have a Discord and we ask the people here, 00:01:08.510 --> 00:01:10.950 obviously so many familiar names and familiar 00:01:10.950 --> 00:01:13.930 faces, we ask you guys a question in the Discord 00:01:13.930 --> 00:01:16.969 because we needed your help. We needed to answer 00:01:16.969 --> 00:01:20.489 the question of... Basically, who is the best 00:01:20.489 --> 00:01:24.709 and who is the worst characters in all of Warhammer? 00:01:25.049 --> 00:01:27.689 So this is not specific to 40K, Horrors, Heresy, 00:01:27.769 --> 00:01:30.390 all that stuff. I'm talking everybody can get 00:01:30.390 --> 00:01:33.840 it. Everyone throwing hands. And today we're 00:01:33.840 --> 00:01:36.079 gonna hear your responses and read them out obviously 00:01:36.079 --> 00:01:39.099 in the main video for people who are not for 00:01:39.099 --> 00:01:41.900 the live the live gang We will you'll have your 00:01:41.900 --> 00:01:44.159 shout on screen and everything. We really appreciate 00:01:44.159 --> 00:01:47.319 you guys Representing and there was a lot of 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:53.400 similar answers. So some of them may May repeats 00:01:53.400 --> 00:01:55.840 have not necessarily been included but people 00:01:55.840 --> 00:01:59.650 who wrote some people were very passionate and 00:01:59.650 --> 00:02:02.950 um we really appreciate the vitriol and the love 00:02:02.950 --> 00:02:06.290 that um was given in there i think was you know 00:02:06.290 --> 00:02:08.770 straight into it basically though because we 00:02:08.770 --> 00:02:11.729 also have by the way i've got some i recorded 00:02:11.729 --> 00:02:13.349 a bunch of footage because of the new prestige 00:02:13.349 --> 00:02:16.969 system and i thought that colin made such a good 00:02:16.969 --> 00:02:19.610 point last week of going oh my god how's messing 00:02:19.610 --> 00:02:22.150 up a lot of dodges so i'll just put my footage 00:02:22.150 --> 00:02:23.889 here instead playing as a heavy who doesn't have 00:02:23.889 --> 00:02:28.099 to dodge because dodging is not a factor you 00:02:28.099 --> 00:02:30.759 just have a melt again can i just point out me 00:02:30.759 --> 00:02:34.060 and andy did not coordinate so i also recorded 00:02:34.060 --> 00:02:36.840 the space marine 2 footage and i played bulwark 00:02:36.840 --> 00:02:40.759 and i i was holding it down i'm not gonna lie 00:02:40.759 --> 00:02:44.379 i had to warm up but i'm holding it down and 00:02:44.379 --> 00:02:46.939 i'm here so i will just point out all of this 00:02:46.939 --> 00:02:49.860 is on obsolete uh absolute not obsolete absolute 00:02:49.860 --> 00:02:52.099 i think so it's quite tough but it's good fun 00:02:52.099 --> 00:02:54.840 i'm pro gamer right uh who's starting off with 00:02:54.840 --> 00:02:57.569 uh the the the options today that we've been 00:02:57.569 --> 00:03:01.909 supplied. I'll let it rip. And also, I think 00:03:01.909 --> 00:03:04.689 I'm going to murder the person for the last one. 00:03:04.789 --> 00:03:06.650 I think I'm going to find that person in real 00:03:06.650 --> 00:03:10.030 life. But that's for later. But no, it's okay, 00:03:10.150 --> 00:03:13.250 Colin, because we listen and we don't judge, 00:03:13.370 --> 00:03:16.009 guys. Today, we are not judging. We are simply 00:03:16.009 --> 00:03:21.189 discussing, getting feelings out there. This 00:03:21.189 --> 00:03:24.050 is a safe space for people to really, you know, 00:03:24.069 --> 00:03:28.150 this is the highs and the lows. hmm how i'm full 00:03:28.150 --> 00:03:32.590 of hatred unfortunately so uh you know it's just 00:03:32.590 --> 00:03:36.050 gonna have to be how it'd be uh but the uh the 00:03:36.050 --> 00:03:38.610 first one we listen we don't judge uh from ran 00:03:38.610 --> 00:03:44.789 uh hot take vulcan's kind nature and generosity 00:03:44.789 --> 00:03:48.289 has created more suffering and misery for his 00:03:48.289 --> 00:03:50.590 sons than he could have thought as the galaxy 00:03:50.590 --> 00:03:52.409 often loves to turn that nature against them 00:03:52.409 --> 00:03:55.030 to make them suffer and lead vital resources 00:03:55.030 --> 00:03:59.969 for largely symbolic actions. Wow. Ran, are you 00:03:59.969 --> 00:04:03.789 calling Vulcan a wet light? I think he's calling 00:04:03.789 --> 00:04:10.389 him naive. A naive little boy. Damn. Kinda right? 00:04:10.750 --> 00:04:17.810 Kinda? Nah, I'm gonna disagree. You need one 00:04:17.810 --> 00:04:25.139 nice person. I see. I'm... I'm trying to figure 00:04:25.139 --> 00:04:31.360 out how to say this in a way that doesn't come 00:04:31.360 --> 00:04:38.680 across as overly dismissive. But the best I can 00:04:38.680 --> 00:04:42.939 think to say is the attitude of you are nice, 00:04:43.079 --> 00:04:47.060 therefore you're wasting your time is making 00:04:47.060 --> 00:04:51.439 me think of the people who go... Superman's a 00:04:51.439 --> 00:04:53.800 boring character because he doesn't kill anyone. 00:04:54.220 --> 00:05:03.160 Oh. You are kind of... Murderfest at all times 00:05:03.160 --> 00:05:06.899 does not make you smart or resourceful. It just 00:05:06.899 --> 00:05:10.699 makes you an asshole. We have Omni -Man now. 00:05:10.779 --> 00:05:17.699 It's fine. Thank Mark. Thank Mark. I think... 00:05:18.649 --> 00:05:21.649 i i honestly agree though with you connor about 00:05:21.649 --> 00:05:24.689 like because i like superman but it's also is 00:05:24.689 --> 00:05:29.610 it oddly placed in 40k in a sense of you know 00:05:29.610 --> 00:05:32.050 how like i'm what's the animation that came out 00:05:32.050 --> 00:05:36.290 with where like the uh the salamander guy spares 00:05:36.290 --> 00:05:40.949 the uh the imperial yeah um animation project 00:05:40.949 --> 00:05:43.250 and then um and then turns out they're jeans 00:05:43.250 --> 00:05:47.779 dealers oh the the well no it's that that one 00:05:47.779 --> 00:05:49.639 he saves the family but then eventually they 00:05:49.639 --> 00:05:52.100 just get hunted down by the imperium anyway because 00:05:52.100 --> 00:05:54.160 the ones who don't some don't survive the escape 00:05:54.160 --> 00:05:56.500 of the necrons and then like the guard are going 00:05:56.500 --> 00:05:57.680 through some woods and there's just like the 00:05:57.680 --> 00:06:00.759 little girl left and they're like well bang oh 00:06:00.759 --> 00:06:04.399 she's gone it was all futile in the end oh well 00:06:04.399 --> 00:06:07.100 it's kind of the it's kind of on point for that 00:06:07.100 --> 00:06:11.430 one there i think it in a way you know Was the 00:06:11.430 --> 00:06:14.769 guy's name? I can't remember. Sakan. Sakan. He 00:06:14.769 --> 00:06:17.850 was very kind and sparing. And then it was obviously 00:06:17.850 --> 00:06:21.189 in 40K, it's like a weaponized against them in 00:06:21.189 --> 00:06:24.110 such a fashion. And there's the bit where a Kriegsman 00:06:24.110 --> 00:06:26.509 who's gone mad is attacking him. He's kind of 00:06:26.509 --> 00:06:28.930 like, stop that. This is bad. And then he's like, 00:06:29.029 --> 00:06:31.829 oh, I see. And then he just murders them all. 00:06:32.170 --> 00:06:35.470 So you can only push a salamander too far. It's 00:06:35.470 --> 00:06:37.149 like they are space marines. Let's not forget. 00:06:37.670 --> 00:06:47.100 Eldar too. I don't know. It's like the... I don't 00:06:47.100 --> 00:06:49.899 know. I guess it's just like when someone shows 00:06:49.899 --> 00:06:52.800 mercy and they call that like a waste. It's like, 00:06:52.839 --> 00:06:55.360 we'll just murder them. It's like, well, you 00:06:55.360 --> 00:07:00.060 know, that is murder. I'm sorry. Yes. If you 00:07:00.060 --> 00:07:04.399 would like to put a price on human life, maybe 00:07:04.399 --> 00:07:06.980 there are ways to do it, but I think calling 00:07:06.980 --> 00:07:10.339 them stupid and wasteful for not wanting to think 00:07:10.339 --> 00:07:14.560 with the bolter first and the brain never is, 00:07:14.639 --> 00:07:18.480 I wouldn't say that's correct. Does it cause 00:07:18.480 --> 00:07:21.079 them hardship? I'm sure it does, but that's the 00:07:21.079 --> 00:07:25.759 point. I think there's valid things on all sides 00:07:25.759 --> 00:07:27.259 here. It's a good start, though. It's a good 00:07:27.259 --> 00:07:29.740 start. To be fair, it could be worse. You could 00:07:29.740 --> 00:07:31.579 be a lamenter. And they're trying to do the right 00:07:31.579 --> 00:07:33.379 thing, and they do get punished for it way more. 00:07:34.279 --> 00:07:38.279 Yeah. They've got their own special little hell. 00:07:39.180 --> 00:07:42.759 Now, I do believe the next one is right up someone's 00:07:42.759 --> 00:07:45.860 alley here, Colin, if you would be so kind as 00:07:45.860 --> 00:07:48.680 to... Oh, sure. I'll kick this one off, too. 00:07:49.240 --> 00:07:52.519 The Holy Priest of Spaghetti. That is a fun name. 00:07:53.019 --> 00:07:57.879 It is good. Best character, Thanquil. Justification, 00:07:58.240 --> 00:08:00.519 he's Thanquil. He's the horned rat's greatest, 00:08:00.740 --> 00:08:03.920 goofiest, most self -sabotaging soldier, and 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:07.519 he can be no other way. Worst character, Thanquil. 00:08:08.560 --> 00:08:11.399 Justification, Skaven, and he's the horned rat's 00:08:11.399 --> 00:08:15.860 greatest soldier. You know, I appreciate you 00:08:15.860 --> 00:08:21.379 covering all your bases there. For the law expert 00:08:21.379 --> 00:08:24.540 on Fan Call somewhat, what would you say is the 00:08:24.540 --> 00:08:28.160 best and the worst thing he's ever done? The 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:36.980 worst thing he's ever done? God. There's so many 00:08:36.980 --> 00:08:40.440 layers I'm trying to unpack right now. His little 00:08:40.440 --> 00:08:44.580 beady rat heart. What's the greatest and worst 00:08:44.580 --> 00:08:49.330 of that? I'm going to go with accidentally summoning 00:08:49.330 --> 00:08:52.350 Scarbrand and then just leaving the area. He 00:08:52.350 --> 00:08:58.370 just left. He just completely made it not his 00:08:58.370 --> 00:09:04.450 problem. Is that the best and worst thing he's 00:09:04.450 --> 00:09:07.350 ever done? That's the thing. There is no difference 00:09:07.350 --> 00:09:09.990 for me for Thankful. Everything he does is horrible, 00:09:10.049 --> 00:09:14.929 but also great. Does he kill anyone interesting 00:09:14.929 --> 00:09:19.029 in the end times? He doesn't really do too much. 00:09:19.129 --> 00:09:22.210 He does, I mean, indirectly get the entire Council 00:09:22.210 --> 00:09:27.509 of Thirteen killed. So, I mean, there's that. 00:09:29.649 --> 00:09:33.269 What are we talking about best? Are we talking 00:09:33.269 --> 00:09:36.490 like best for himself or best for everyone who 00:09:36.490 --> 00:09:39.350 isn't a Skaven? Best at the end times when it's 00:09:39.350 --> 00:09:43.309 already going down the drain? he did in age of 00:09:43.309 --> 00:09:46.230 sigmar flood half of skaven blight and killed 00:09:46.230 --> 00:09:49.690 like a lot of rats i don't know you know i don't 00:09:49.690 --> 00:09:53.490 think there was specifics but a lot of rats so 00:09:53.490 --> 00:09:56.470 i mean hey it's kind of right up his alley though 00:09:56.470 --> 00:10:02.009 uh And what was the next one we had? I think 00:10:02.009 --> 00:10:03.789 I don't really judge that one. I think it's a 00:10:03.789 --> 00:10:06.870 perfectly valid. There's no judgment on that 00:10:06.870 --> 00:10:09.149 one. It's perfect. He is the best and he's the 00:10:09.149 --> 00:10:12.049 worst. I have nothing to judge. You're just right. 00:10:13.029 --> 00:10:15.450 Now I've seen the next one, Colin, and I've already 00:10:15.450 --> 00:10:19.690 got feelings. Would you please enlighten the 00:10:19.690 --> 00:10:26.389 people? This is a... You don't... This is a... 00:10:26.600 --> 00:10:31.120 Interesting one. The worst character in Warhammer 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:34.360 is Athenir Whiteleaf from Elf Slayer. Almost 00:10:34.360 --> 00:10:37.000 fucked up worse than Magnus. Thank God his bodyguard 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:39.080 and Gotrek and Felix were there to do all the 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:44.139 work. Now... Can you explain how he messed up? 00:10:44.440 --> 00:10:47.179 Yeah, for the people who don't know, how he messed 00:10:47.179 --> 00:10:51.779 up. So, without too much spoilers, both because... 00:10:52.490 --> 00:10:55.009 we will cover it eventually on this channel and 00:10:55.009 --> 00:10:59.169 you should read the book yourself. Dark elf pussy 00:10:59.169 --> 00:11:05.250 got me acting a fool. Sorry, what? The Drussy, 00:11:05.389 --> 00:11:09.649 what? The Drussy had this man thinking unwise 00:11:09.649 --> 00:11:16.190 and making poor decisions. And Agachka and Felix 00:11:16.190 --> 00:11:19.750 book resulted in it, in this man's poor decisions. 00:11:21.380 --> 00:11:27.279 Imagine the most pathetic private school -esque 00:11:27.279 --> 00:11:30.879 boy ever. This is the vibe he gives off. I hated 00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:35.659 this character so much. There's very few characters 00:11:35.659 --> 00:11:38.700 in Warhammer you just legitimately want to slap 00:11:38.700 --> 00:11:40.820 them across the face. Eidolon could take it. 00:11:40.980 --> 00:11:43.500 I could throw hands at Eidolon, but this guy 00:11:43.500 --> 00:11:46.960 as well. And his poor bodyguard is just like... 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:52.289 His poor bodyguard is so just like... He swore 00:11:52.289 --> 00:11:54.450 to defend him. And he's just like, I fucking 00:11:54.450 --> 00:12:02.549 hate you. You're so useless. I will say at the 00:12:02.549 --> 00:12:04.789 end of the book, again, not too many spoilers. 00:12:05.850 --> 00:12:08.870 He definitely redeems himself compared to, you 00:12:08.870 --> 00:12:13.509 know, Magni magic. He's got it. There is a, there 00:12:13.509 --> 00:12:17.100 is a very. I don't know, maybe it's just the 00:12:17.100 --> 00:12:20.379 line he says, but the specifics of it kind of 00:12:20.379 --> 00:12:22.440 make me go, damn, man, that's fucking rough. 00:12:22.700 --> 00:12:26.820 You could have been a lot worse. Is he an absolute 00:12:26.820 --> 00:12:30.460 shitheel for 90 % of the book? Yes. Yes, without 00:12:30.460 --> 00:12:34.879 question. But he does kind of save it at the 00:12:34.879 --> 00:12:41.840 end with something. Again, no spoilers. It touches 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:45.340 my heart a little bit. But for every page of 00:12:45.340 --> 00:12:47.059 that book before that, yeah, that motherfucker 00:12:47.059 --> 00:12:49.980 should have gotten beamed in the head with a 00:12:49.980 --> 00:12:56.620 brick. And the next one there, Colin, is that... 00:12:56.620 --> 00:13:00.080 I think we've got quite a few to go through, 00:13:00.179 --> 00:13:02.279 by the way, people. Some people want no essays. 00:13:03.080 --> 00:13:06.360 I don't think this one is much of a hot take. 00:13:06.460 --> 00:13:08.100 I think most people are going to agree with you. 00:13:08.179 --> 00:13:11.980 But DonkeymanUSA, professional hater. I hate 00:13:11.980 --> 00:13:16.919 John Germanicus. Not only is he a shoehorned 00:13:16.919 --> 00:13:19.700 ass -pull motherfucker, every time he opens his 00:13:19.700 --> 00:13:22.100 mouth, it's a damn soliloquy. He never shuts 00:13:22.100 --> 00:13:26.740 up, and then space best is thankful. So true. 00:13:27.779 --> 00:13:32.720 It just reminds me of a fact, like, every time 00:13:32.720 --> 00:13:35.159 if you're reading, like, the End and the Death 00:13:35.159 --> 00:13:38.539 books, and it's like... oh my god horace and 00:13:38.539 --> 00:13:40.320 the emperor gonna fight you know i've been waiting 00:13:40.320 --> 00:13:44.480 my whole life for this moment scene switch to 00:13:44.480 --> 00:13:48.820 john grammaticus and it's like it's so annoying 00:13:48.820 --> 00:13:52.700 narrative whiplash also in the audio version 00:13:52.700 --> 00:13:59.029 he sounds weird like he's the weirdest accent 00:13:59.029 --> 00:14:01.789 he's like i can't speak to people like that it's 00:14:01.789 --> 00:14:03.909 like it's like not american but it sounds like 00:14:03.909 --> 00:14:06.049 me attempting to speak an american accent it 00:14:06.049 --> 00:14:08.309 sounds horrible it's like american it's american 00:14:08.309 --> 00:14:12.809 sitcom vibe you know hey there guys i'm just 00:14:12.809 --> 00:14:15.629 a normal american accent man like what the hell 00:14:15.629 --> 00:14:19.169 is that what is even have we met or spoken to 00:14:19.169 --> 00:14:24.809 anyone who likes this character um i have Spoken 00:14:24.809 --> 00:14:28.610 to Louise about this and she says she likes him 00:14:28.610 --> 00:14:31.309 and I say, you're insane. That's not allowed. 00:14:31.909 --> 00:14:35.830 Be gone into the lore dungeons for your bad takes. 00:14:36.029 --> 00:14:38.710 Does she like him or does she just accept him? 00:14:39.149 --> 00:14:43.909 I think she likes the character. And I did confirm. 00:14:44.250 --> 00:14:48.370 I was like, hold on. Like as in not tolerate. 00:14:48.629 --> 00:14:50.149 And she was like, no, I like the character. I'm 00:14:50.149 --> 00:14:54.899 like, well, you are wrong. So naughty. Bad. one 00:14:54.899 --> 00:15:00.279 person one singular person i yeah no i don't 00:15:00.279 --> 00:15:02.799 i don't have i have zero judgment for this i'm 00:15:02.799 --> 00:15:08.440 not you know i i feel like um like everyone i 00:15:08.440 --> 00:15:11.820 feel like um balan scroll in the ahsoka uh series 00:15:11.820 --> 00:15:15.490 where he goes like i like the idea of it Not 00:15:15.490 --> 00:15:19.049 the real thing. I was like, yeah, the idea of 00:15:19.049 --> 00:15:22.090 perpetual immortal humans. Yeah, it'd be cool. 00:15:22.370 --> 00:15:27.450 And then I got weird Eldrad -Ulthran assassination 00:15:27.450 --> 00:15:31.850 whoopsie storyline. I don't know what's going 00:15:31.850 --> 00:15:34.769 on. You got the Fonz from Wish. I was like, what 00:15:34.769 --> 00:15:38.769 is this? What's going on? Hey, it's me. Oh, this 00:15:38.769 --> 00:15:40.629 guy again. Every time I was having fun in the 00:15:40.629 --> 00:15:42.210 end of the death and he turns up, I'm like, oh, 00:15:42.210 --> 00:15:46.360 go away. Go away, please. I like how everyone 00:15:46.360 --> 00:15:48.580 hates him in the book as well. Everybody hates 00:15:48.580 --> 00:15:51.620 him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everyone hates him in 00:15:51.620 --> 00:15:53.960 his books. Everyone hates him out of his books. 00:15:54.580 --> 00:15:59.600 Why are you here? And he's still alive. Look, 00:15:59.620 --> 00:16:03.240 you know what? Everyone, every John Grimanticus 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:06.019 hater, just go read Unremembered Empire because 00:16:06.019 --> 00:16:08.679 every scene he's in, he just spends most of his 00:16:08.679 --> 00:16:11.340 time shitting himself because Eldrad is tormenting 00:16:11.340 --> 00:16:16.669 him. So you know what? There's a shining light. 00:16:18.169 --> 00:16:23.730 I just find it really funny because every bit 00:16:23.730 --> 00:16:26.549 I'm reading in that book with John Grammaticus, 00:16:26.549 --> 00:16:30.389 he's just going through it and he's just in abject 00:16:30.389 --> 00:16:35.250 misery. He's like, it was a while since I was 00:16:35.250 --> 00:16:37.899 reading through it. but he's like he's in misery 00:16:37.899 --> 00:16:41.039 from like just constantly moving he's in misery 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:43.059 because he hasn't eaten food in like a month 00:16:43.059 --> 00:16:46.440 he finally sits down at an inn and then he turns 00:16:46.440 --> 00:16:51.100 around and eldrad is just looking at him well 00:16:51.100 --> 00:16:53.340 the thing is it's just the um i can't remember 00:16:53.340 --> 00:16:54.820 which book specifically but there's the one where 00:16:54.820 --> 00:16:57.200 he kills vulcan with the fulgurite and he dies 00:16:57.200 --> 00:17:01.500 in the process and he and he loses his he loses 00:17:01.500 --> 00:17:04.920 his perpetual if you could call it that. So he's 00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:07.420 like, if he dies again, he's properly gone. And 00:17:07.420 --> 00:17:11.099 at that moment, I was Ronin slash Hawkeye from 00:17:11.099 --> 00:17:15.660 Endgame going, don't give me hope. I wanted him 00:17:15.660 --> 00:17:17.660 to die so bad, and he's still here. He's like, 00:17:17.720 --> 00:17:21.160 you got through the Siege of Terror alive? Why? 00:17:21.539 --> 00:17:27.220 You should be gone. So John Grammaticus haters. 00:17:28.250 --> 00:17:31.369 read Unremembered Empire. He loses his immortality 00:17:31.369 --> 00:17:34.990 and Eldred keeps stopping time to make fun of 00:17:34.990 --> 00:17:38.569 him. At least he yelled at Horus really loudly 00:17:38.569 --> 00:17:42.269 and he sent him flying. That was fun. Is he the 00:17:42.269 --> 00:17:45.829 Dragonborn? No, he had Anuncia. Anuncia is kind 00:17:45.829 --> 00:17:50.910 of like the Thume. Oh no, he lost Colin. Oh no. 00:17:52.029 --> 00:17:56.430 He was just like, I'm out of here. I'm not doing 00:17:56.430 --> 00:17:59.019 this. Oh, well. Well, Colin's gone. Shall we 00:17:59.019 --> 00:18:03.460 do some donations? Yes. The technical difficulties. 00:18:04.960 --> 00:18:07.200 I have no idea what's going on, folks. First 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:09.259 one from Set. There he is. Hey, Colin. I have 00:18:09.259 --> 00:18:11.720 no idea what just happened. It just said... That's 00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:15.980 one of those... Dude, I got Fus -Ro -Dot out 00:18:15.980 --> 00:18:19.740 of the chat. Yeah, exactly. First donation from 00:18:19.740 --> 00:18:21.759 Set. Hypothetical for the gang. If you could 00:18:21.759 --> 00:18:24.819 make your own Dogs of War unit, what would you 00:18:24.819 --> 00:18:27.519 make, race and all? It's like a mercenary company. 00:18:27.940 --> 00:18:30.000 Dogs of war? Is that fantasy or fantasy? Yeah, 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:34.420 they're like mercenaries in fantasy. I'll have 00:18:34.420 --> 00:18:39.059 a think. I kind of already, like, they already 00:18:39.059 --> 00:18:41.539 probably exist, though. I just want more ogres. 00:18:42.660 --> 00:18:45.200 But, like, something where, like, it's all kind 00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:48.960 of, you know, was it Greece's, was it Goldtooth? 00:18:49.059 --> 00:18:53.109 He's on the chair. I want a full unit. of like 00:18:53.109 --> 00:18:56.930 ogres on chairs or something maybe in wheelchairs 00:18:56.930 --> 00:18:59.410 because that would be like scooters in wheelchairs 00:18:59.410 --> 00:19:03.109 well like the the oh you know my military is 00:19:03.109 --> 00:19:05.309 like a better version of it like the something 00:19:05.309 --> 00:19:07.509 like it's just really intimidating and they're 00:19:07.509 --> 00:19:10.450 like but they're also not having to get up you 00:19:10.450 --> 00:19:13.950 know just when the ogres are not running to you 00:19:13.950 --> 00:19:17.789 towards you but like rolling slowly forward menacingly 00:19:18.299 --> 00:19:20.599 i would make a renown yeah i would make a renowned 00:19:20.599 --> 00:19:24.440 ogre war band but where hal wants them to you 00:19:24.440 --> 00:19:28.700 know be the the entire army of creases i don't 00:19:28.700 --> 00:19:30.940 care i just want to be able to i just need them 00:19:30.940 --> 00:19:33.599 to have an acceptable name to say without sounding 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:40.680 unbelievably homophobic um like gold man eater 00:19:40.680 --> 00:19:45.140 the second syllable of gold is a word i cannot 00:19:45.140 --> 00:19:50.480 say on the internet So I would like them to fix 00:19:50.480 --> 00:19:57.619 that. I like a warhound unit of skeletal gnomes. 00:19:57.819 --> 00:19:59.900 Gnomes? What are they called? Halflings. Who 00:19:59.900 --> 00:20:01.900 are like, hey, we didn't want to follow Nagash 00:20:01.900 --> 00:20:04.460 because we're still hungry even though we're 00:20:04.460 --> 00:20:06.819 undead and they fight for food. And then it just 00:20:06.819 --> 00:20:08.380 kind of passes through them and that's their 00:20:08.380 --> 00:20:12.059 lore. The gnomes. Harassers of kneecaps. Yeah, 00:20:12.180 --> 00:20:17.390 we need gnomes in Warhammer. Also... Two from 00:20:17.390 --> 00:20:21.190 the Green Hat Man. Colin will wear a green hat 00:20:21.190 --> 00:20:25.009 in three weeks. It's two weeks. You actually 00:20:25.009 --> 00:20:29.509 had to buy a green hat. I feel like I'm obligated 00:20:29.509 --> 00:20:35.130 now. You only got two weeks. Also, with the four 00:20:35.130 --> 00:20:37.809 gods in the back. Lefty on the central lock. 00:20:37.930 --> 00:20:40.069 Rider down and Jack Daniels. Both feet floor 00:20:40.069 --> 00:20:42.970 of the pedal. Cock on the wheel. Cock on the 00:20:42.970 --> 00:20:46.440 wheel. is that is that a different version of 00:20:46.440 --> 00:20:49.420 cacovan what's going on or is it just a rooster 00:20:49.420 --> 00:20:51.259 that you've procured for the occasion one of 00:20:51.259 --> 00:20:55.859 the two the stream lives yes that's right somewhere 00:20:55.859 --> 00:20:58.980 the stream lives stop stop shame we've insulted 00:20:58.980 --> 00:21:03.920 balkans immediately first as well yeah donkey 00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:06.299 man usa stream late due to how gooning on the 00:21:06.299 --> 00:21:15.569 machine spirits you know it what is this thank 00:21:15.569 --> 00:21:17.869 grace the silliest clown that you were the five 00:21:17.869 --> 00:21:25.250 1750 bce youtuber colin be like iona sears copper 00:21:25.250 --> 00:21:32.509 sucks why did why did you make me an ancient 00:21:32.509 --> 00:21:41.549 drama youtuber oh my god Angry homunculus for 00:21:41.549 --> 00:21:44.970 £5. Stream late due to Hal not putting in the 00:21:44.970 --> 00:21:48.170 airbrush medium first. Hang on, got to fill the 00:21:48.170 --> 00:21:51.250 character limit. Kill Mame, burn, kill Mame, 00:21:51.269 --> 00:21:54.829 burn, kill Mame. Thank you, man. Appreciate that. 00:21:55.029 --> 00:22:00.029 Nice. Shalaxy's wettest gripper for two. Mayhaps 00:22:00.029 --> 00:22:05.930 a sensual gritty for the lad? Maybe one day. 00:22:08.220 --> 00:22:12.980 How would one even do that? I don't know. Oh, 00:22:12.980 --> 00:22:18.859 God. Okay, 10 euros. Last time I submitted something 00:22:18.859 --> 00:22:20.619 to this, Andy actually made me change my mind 00:22:20.619 --> 00:22:22.380 on the missing Primarchs. Hal spent five minutes 00:22:22.380 --> 00:22:24.859 calling me stupid in brackets. I did sub and 00:22:24.859 --> 00:22:27.000 then unsubbed to Hal, by the way. Colin did fun 00:22:27.000 --> 00:22:30.599 facts. Brilliant. Remember, folks, it's not a 00:22:30.599 --> 00:22:33.380 law crime stream unless you subscribe and then 00:22:33.380 --> 00:22:36.799 unsubscribe from the Amber King. It's now ritual. 00:22:37.690 --> 00:22:43.990 Oh, no. Have fun. I'm not reading that one. Colin. 00:22:44.710 --> 00:22:49.529 He's designated boy with it. Hell yeah, brother. 00:22:50.890 --> 00:22:55.289 Did Eli get lost leaving Loompa land? Also, happy 00:22:55.289 --> 00:22:58.809 birthday, Colin. It's still not his birthday. 00:22:59.630 --> 00:23:07.150 Technically. By that logic, Colin is now 50 years 00:23:07.150 --> 00:23:08.750 old with the amount of birthdays he's had this 00:23:08.750 --> 00:23:13.009 year. I am. At least like 40. People are very 00:23:13.009 --> 00:23:18.789 generous, man. Oh, Caleb Collins. Safe space. 00:23:19.589 --> 00:23:23.809 Think of the Demonculaba now, you Brit. Now I 00:23:23.809 --> 00:23:29.049 am. This is like when people say your breathing 00:23:29.049 --> 00:23:33.609 is now manual. Sorry, everyone. I just realized 00:23:33.609 --> 00:23:37.490 that's horrible. Your breathing is now manual. 00:23:37.750 --> 00:23:41.190 Your left foot is slightly itchy. Your tongue 00:23:41.190 --> 00:23:43.569 is not resting normally in your mouth. You don't 00:23:43.569 --> 00:23:45.069 know if you want to close your teeth or keep 00:23:45.069 --> 00:23:50.269 them open. What else is there? Go pee -pee. uh 00:23:50.269 --> 00:23:53.569 rayleigh for 10 bucks able to catch a stream 00:23:53.569 --> 00:23:55.950 after like two years of watching law crimes thank 00:23:55.950 --> 00:23:59.349 you brother nice uh colon your passion made me 00:23:59.349 --> 00:24:01.529 unashamed to love elves and now i'm considering 00:24:01.529 --> 00:24:04.970 old world my bank account hates you guys i love 00:24:04.970 --> 00:24:11.349 you i mean i appreciate the boeing um profile 00:24:11.349 --> 00:24:15.549 pic yep wouldn't go prof dude all around bangers 00:24:16.430 --> 00:24:20.049 fin bot 24 for 5 finally get to see a live stream 00:24:20.049 --> 00:24:23.230 in its five seconds per frame glory yep you know 00:24:23.230 --> 00:24:27.369 the video after is much better quality yeah screen 00:24:27.369 --> 00:24:29.589 sharing it's a bit clunky but it'll look better 00:24:29.589 --> 00:24:33.150 on the remaster if you can't watch if you can't 00:24:33.150 --> 00:24:35.450 watch the stream without the frames you don't 00:24:35.450 --> 00:24:39.630 deserve the frames i think colin needs to this 00:24:39.630 --> 00:24:43.279 is this is up your alley Shalexi's wettest gripper. 00:24:43.400 --> 00:24:46.279 Thank you for the 20 Canadian dollary do's. Thank 00:24:46.279 --> 00:24:48.839 you, brother. I think Malkador the hero is a 00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:51.240 good contender for the worst guy ever. He's very 00:24:51.240 --> 00:24:53.720 pragmatic and shit, but my heebies are gb'd if 00:24:53.720 --> 00:24:56.640 he looks at me. Best characters. Vulcan because 00:24:56.640 --> 00:25:01.349 I'm biased to hammers. XOXO. my tippy wet tis 00:25:01.349 --> 00:25:05.930 glossy. Boy, there was some actual opinions and 00:25:05.930 --> 00:25:08.029 character thoughts going on there, and then that 00:25:08.029 --> 00:25:10.930 last line happened. This reminds me of the picture 00:25:10.930 --> 00:25:13.430 of the horse of Game of Thrones, where it's drawn 00:25:13.430 --> 00:25:17.529 badly towards the end. Yeah, yeah. The hind legs. 00:25:17.990 --> 00:25:20.849 I mean, Alcador is probably real unpleasant to 00:25:20.849 --> 00:25:26.309 be around, though. Oh, yeah. He's a spy master 00:25:26.309 --> 00:25:29.940 for... The bloodiest, cruelest regime imaginable. 00:25:29.960 --> 00:25:32.400 I do not think he's a nice person to be around. 00:25:32.460 --> 00:25:36.900 And he has a pet, rebirthed, half -elf, half 00:25:36.900 --> 00:25:39.740 -human prisoner in his personal quarters who 00:25:39.740 --> 00:25:42.519 he can unload all his trauma on. It's kind of 00:25:42.519 --> 00:25:48.640 weird. Wotan, DKK, for 50 -something. DKK, something. 00:25:48.819 --> 00:25:51.259 For Colin, I want to read Gottrick and Felix, 00:25:51.460 --> 00:25:53.740 but can't find the physical books anywhere. Any 00:25:53.740 --> 00:25:57.630 tips for where I can find them? Uh, I would advise, 00:25:57.910 --> 00:26:00.750 uh, that depends on how you would like to read 00:26:00.750 --> 00:26:04.130 them. If you would like the omnibuses, uh, I 00:26:04.130 --> 00:26:06.029 would check, you know, black library every now 00:26:06.029 --> 00:26:08.430 and again, see if there's a physical print you 00:26:08.430 --> 00:26:11.470 can order, uh, going to games, workshops, stores 00:26:11.470 --> 00:26:15.250 is always, uh, something to do. And I believe 00:26:15.250 --> 00:26:17.589 I got the first omnibus of gotcha can Felix at 00:26:17.589 --> 00:26:22.509 just a, a Barnes and noble. So just, uh, check 00:26:22.509 --> 00:26:24.829 out some bookstores. And if none of that works, 00:26:25.660 --> 00:26:27.579 and you don't mind reading the stories individually, 00:26:28.200 --> 00:26:30.319 you'll have to technically buy more books because 00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:33.240 they're separate and not in the omnibuses. At 00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:40.519 a half -price books near me, I found like 10 00:26:40.519 --> 00:26:45.279 Gotrick and Felix books. So you might have to 00:26:45.279 --> 00:26:48.420 do some diving, but you can probably find them. 00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:51.980 One of those places will surely have them. and 00:26:51.980 --> 00:26:55.220 if that fails there's also audible for the audiobooks 00:26:55.220 --> 00:26:59.180 or kindle for the uh basically if you get a kindle 00:26:59.180 --> 00:27:00.880 you can also get a lot of warhammer books that 00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:03.119 would like you check amazon it's like if you 00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:07.079 want to buy the actual book it's 500 pounds and 00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:10.299 then you go oh kindle it's four quid there is 00:27:10.299 --> 00:27:13.779 that as well uh let's see donkey man usa do you 00:27:13.779 --> 00:27:16.619 want this one how It would be a Domain USA for 00:27:16.619 --> 00:27:19.559 the five bucks. It would be very funny if Narek 00:27:19.559 --> 00:27:22.819 of the Wordbearers rocketed into 40k to tag team 00:27:22.819 --> 00:27:25.640 Lorgar with Corvus. Yeah, where did that plotline 00:27:25.640 --> 00:27:29.900 go? It went to end of the death. I know, I can't 00:27:29.900 --> 00:27:32.799 remember how that resolved. The last thing that 00:27:32.799 --> 00:27:34.779 ever happens to him is he's sniping someone in 00:27:34.779 --> 00:27:36.380 the Siege of Terror for like a paragraph, and 00:27:36.380 --> 00:27:38.660 then that's it. It's like, what? That was it? 00:27:39.359 --> 00:27:42.779 Yeah, I assumed that would be a scouring thing 00:27:42.779 --> 00:27:45.779 then, but... yeah i was like i just thought like 00:27:45.779 --> 00:27:48.220 where'd it go after that like it's just kind 00:27:48.220 --> 00:27:51.240 of yeah he's like oh i'm gonna go kill horrors 00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:53.579 or war god or something it's like just the uh 00:27:53.579 --> 00:27:55.720 the the notion of they could make his own book 00:27:55.720 --> 00:27:57.859 called prodigal son it's like that's perfect 00:27:57.859 --> 00:28:00.519 just do that have him do his vendetta it'd be 00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:06.769 great um yeah The hate of John made reading his 00:28:06.769 --> 00:28:09.349 moments better from Caleb Collins. Also from 00:28:09.349 --> 00:28:11.950 Caleb Collins. Ooh -woo, nuzzles you. Ooh -woo, 00:28:12.069 --> 00:28:14.769 magic curse for the elf simp. Wow. Thanks, Caleb. 00:28:14.970 --> 00:28:18.190 I appreciate it. That was definitely cursed. 00:28:18.369 --> 00:28:20.869 I'll give you that. It was even more cursed the 00:28:20.869 --> 00:28:25.730 way I read it, and I don't apologize. Setful199 00:28:25.730 --> 00:28:28.069 says, Colin, knock it off. I'm at work and breaking 00:28:28.069 --> 00:28:33.049 down. Jesus. What? What did I do? I don't know. 00:28:35.150 --> 00:28:41.549 Breakdown, breakdown. RT, five bucks. Most beloved 00:28:41.549 --> 00:28:44.970 character, Boingob. Reason, Boingob. See, that's 00:28:44.970 --> 00:28:47.109 true in our hearts. That's true in our hearts. 00:28:47.210 --> 00:28:51.250 Yes. Boy, this is... I do not like this. I'm 00:28:51.250 --> 00:28:56.130 not a fan. It's yours. Chaotic Gnome. Thank you 00:28:56.130 --> 00:28:58.730 for the five New Zealand dollar. New Zealand, 00:28:58.849 --> 00:29:02.549 hell yeah. I want to stroke Colleen's beard. 00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:07.279 Worst character, Big E. Long -lived, but no foresight. 00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:10.599 Best character, Annie Skaven, because I like 00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:15.880 gremlin rats. Also, Mpreg Colin Cummin. Wow. 00:29:16.279 --> 00:29:20.559 Boy, that was... I thought my internet legacy 00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:25.099 was bad. Hey, I don't want to be mean, but have 00:29:25.099 --> 00:29:30.819 you considered blowing up? Damn. Just explode. 00:29:31.380 --> 00:29:35.430 Andy, Before we go, should we get to the next 00:29:35.430 --> 00:29:38.069 one on the list then? There might be a few more 00:29:38.069 --> 00:29:41.029 donos, but it might be good just to get to the... 00:29:41.029 --> 00:29:50.769 Is this one... Koyonis? Koyonis? Sorry, I butchered 00:29:50.769 --> 00:29:53.690 your name. This will get me executed for heresy, 00:29:53.750 --> 00:29:55.849 but I think the worst character is Big E himself. 00:29:56.170 --> 00:29:58.390 Oh, there we go. Granted, part of it is because 00:29:58.390 --> 00:30:00.730 of multiple people writing his character, but 00:30:00.730 --> 00:30:02.630 everything wrong with 40k comes back to him. 00:30:03.019 --> 00:30:06.119 He treated some of his sons like shit, resulting 00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:08.259 in them joining Horus. A lot of the issues were 00:30:08.259 --> 00:30:10.319 caused by him keeping secrets unnecessarily. 00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:13.420 As an example of this, he's not telling the Primarchs 00:30:13.420 --> 00:30:15.039 about chaos and its dangers. I can understand 00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:17.200 not telling the general public, but his generals 00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:18.579 who are leading the campaigns to reclaim the 00:30:18.579 --> 00:30:20.579 galaxy should know. Fulgrim would have been far 00:30:20.579 --> 00:30:22.240 less likely to fall if he'd known about chaos 00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:24.940 after all. And finally, he's written incredibly 00:30:24.940 --> 00:30:27.200 inconsistently. From what I know, he's been written 00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:29.240 to be a... as powerful as the story needs rather 00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:32.339 than with consistency. Again, this is the multiple 00:30:32.339 --> 00:30:34.960 writer issue. Now then, for the favorite character, 00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:38.440 it's Gunnar Jørgen. I don't know why, but the 00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:40.480 way he's written in the books made him my favorite 00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:42.759 character, especially with the audiobooks. I 00:30:42.759 --> 00:30:46.859 guess it's due to how loyal he is to Cain and 00:30:46.859 --> 00:30:49.279 how Cain has absolute trust in Jørgen watching 00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:52.660 his back. Ah, that's a nice one. Apart from the 00:30:52.660 --> 00:30:56.740 beginning. So I think we can all agree. Big E's 00:30:56.740 --> 00:31:00.960 got some issues. One or two issues. He's not 00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:05.740 quite perfect. Does that make him a bad character 00:31:05.740 --> 00:31:07.660 or a flawed character? That's an interesting 00:31:07.660 --> 00:31:11.799 take on it. I mean, I wouldn't say there's even... 00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:14.079 I can't judge that one even in any sense because 00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:16.059 that's actually an opinion held by quite a lot 00:31:16.059 --> 00:31:18.680 of people. They just don't like the Emperor. 00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:21.640 I think he makes a valid point of he's as powerful 00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:25.220 as everything and then suddenly he's neutered. 00:31:26.509 --> 00:31:30.869 so it's a bit like although yeah whenever i think 00:31:30.869 --> 00:31:33.029 of the bit though when he goes to is it moloch 00:31:33.029 --> 00:31:35.569 and he sees like the future that's going to be 00:31:35.569 --> 00:31:37.490 happening to humanity when he gets like all of 00:31:37.490 --> 00:31:40.029 his powers it's just that matthew mcconaughey 00:31:40.029 --> 00:31:43.529 image of him smoking a cigarette just like that 00:31:43.529 --> 00:31:46.130 that's the emperor at that moment it's like i 00:31:46.130 --> 00:31:48.130 could have been a nice person i told jokes i 00:31:48.130 --> 00:31:51.200 was a bit fun and then i was just like Right, 00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:53.900 okay, that's the threat. Yeesh, time to become 00:31:53.900 --> 00:31:57.720 an asshole. Yes, it's like, gotta do what I gotta 00:31:57.720 --> 00:31:59.440 do, which is his whole justification of like, 00:31:59.619 --> 00:32:02.839 no, bro, you don't understand. This grimdark 00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:05.859 setting could have been worse. Could have been 00:32:05.859 --> 00:32:07.680 worse. What, than this? Yeah, could have been 00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:11.700 worse. This isn't as bad. It's not as bad by 00:32:11.700 --> 00:32:14.660 much, but it's not as bad. It's really hard to 00:32:14.660 --> 00:32:17.160 write a character who is basically godlike, though, 00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:20.460 as in... they're supposed to be kind of unknowing 00:32:20.460 --> 00:32:24.160 in some sense so I get like why like a lot of 00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:27.059 the like there's somewhat inconsistency which 00:32:27.059 --> 00:32:30.599 I think to be fair towards the end of like particularly 00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:32.980 Siege of Terror they do wrap it up kind of nicely 00:32:32.980 --> 00:32:36.259 in a bow in a sense of like yeah he's meant to 00:32:36.259 --> 00:32:40.960 be this like uncaring being but like even Malkador 00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:43.279 senses like there's a weakness in him and he 00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:45.740 actually kind of does consider the Primarchs 00:32:46.269 --> 00:32:49.210 like his sons and like it's a fatal flaw rather 00:32:49.210 --> 00:32:53.210 than it's a um you know so i don't like poorly 00:32:53.210 --> 00:32:55.210 written sort of thing like basically obviously 00:32:55.210 --> 00:32:58.430 i think malkador rightly points out like he didn't 00:32:58.430 --> 00:33:00.849 really have to make the prime marks like as powerful 00:33:00.849 --> 00:33:03.589 as they are it's a thing of like he didn't necessarily 00:33:03.589 --> 00:33:07.170 want to be alone in you know like there's like 00:33:07.170 --> 00:33:09.730 a thing of like when a character is so powerful 00:33:09.730 --> 00:33:11.289 like they don't want to be the only one like 00:33:11.289 --> 00:33:13.890 that and i think the primarks are sort of that 00:33:13.890 --> 00:33:16.380 version of They're kind of as powerful. They 00:33:16.380 --> 00:33:18.420 would, you know, one day be as powerful as him 00:33:18.420 --> 00:33:21.440 in some sense. So it was like, ah, I could make 00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:24.000 them just like kind of super humans, like just 00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:26.619 Astartes, but he was like, nah, let's go for, 00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:29.960 you know, there's, there's juices up. There's 00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:31.579 just these bad boys up a little bit more, you 00:33:31.579 --> 00:33:34.240 know, why not? A few more roid, a few more roid 00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:37.119 treatments. Yeah. Let's not, let's not have any 00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:40.019 hero worship or God worship in my Imperium. And 00:33:40.019 --> 00:33:42.180 I know I'm already clad in gold armor, but why 00:33:42.180 --> 00:33:44.920 don't I make like a bunch of demigods? i'm sure 00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:48.099 there'll be no repercussions at all why not it's 00:33:48.099 --> 00:33:50.980 a bit of fun it's a bit of fun we did do a we 00:33:50.980 --> 00:33:52.740 did do a kyphos cane episode so people want to 00:33:52.740 --> 00:33:55.460 go check that out for uh jurgen law but colin 00:33:55.460 --> 00:33:58.359 could you briefly explain maybe in a few short 00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:00.900 sentences the character of jurgen for those for 00:34:00.900 --> 00:34:03.339 the crazy people who maybe have never heard of 00:34:03.339 --> 00:34:08.079 this guy jurgen is not only the most loyal commissar 00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:10.860 assistant you could ever ask for but he is also 00:34:10.860 --> 00:34:14.800 the galaxy's smelliest man And I'm pretty sure, 00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:19.820 yes, that includes Mortarion. It just smells 00:34:19.820 --> 00:34:25.559 like unfiltered ass. But my God, is he a good 00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:29.039 man. And to be fair, I think in the audiobooks 00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:30.840 he has a West Country accent. I think he's like, 00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:33.760 all right there. I'm Jürgen. How's you? Oh, you 00:34:33.760 --> 00:34:36.260 having a good day? His most common line is, I'm 00:34:36.260 --> 00:34:42.300 coming, Commissar. Which is hilarious. It reminds 00:34:42.300 --> 00:34:44.719 me of the, you remind me, Commissar, of it. Is 00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:47.800 it Fear Factor? The clip where the guy, like, 00:34:47.820 --> 00:34:49.920 he's in the room, it's black, and the guy's like, 00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:53.320 smells like ass. And he goes, ding. Correct. 00:34:57.900 --> 00:35:01.280 And Jürgen is hilarious. He's so not with it, 00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:03.699 but he's also, he's not as dumb as you'd think. 00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:06.760 No, he's got a, there's one short story that 00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:09.400 follows him and it's, you know, there's a little 00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:11.360 bit more going on in Jürgen's head than you might 00:35:11.360 --> 00:35:15.239 think. Not that much more, but a little bit more. 00:35:15.780 --> 00:35:20.500 He's like a lovable old puppy that turned into 00:35:20.500 --> 00:35:26.679 an old dog that is addicted to porn mags. You're 00:35:26.679 --> 00:35:29.780 basically saying he's a smelly rescue dog. He's 00:35:29.780 --> 00:35:34.500 still smelly, but he's always smiling and happy. 00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:36.380 And he bites anyone who tries to hurt me, so 00:35:36.380 --> 00:35:41.159 that's good. Yeah. Part of the reason he's happy 00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:43.280 is because he's cranking his hog at every moment 00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:49.139 he has a chance. His best ability. Tugging the 00:35:49.139 --> 00:35:54.179 stinky hog. When crisis came. Once the room cleared, 00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:57.599 Jurgen comes in and people are just like, they 00:35:57.599 --> 00:36:01.199 hold their breath. And he doesn't have to be 00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:03.460 pulling his pud to get people out of there. Pretty 00:36:03.460 --> 00:36:06.599 prompt. It's like, ah, just his presence is enough. 00:36:06.699 --> 00:36:09.880 Like, no. Meeting adjourned. No thanks. Also, 00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:12.159 he's pretty damn deadly as well. Pretty damn 00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:15.019 deadly. I'll be right back, fellas. There was 00:36:15.019 --> 00:36:19.460 a dog going berserk upstairs. Speaking of dogs. 00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:23.159 He's ongoing mental. Andy, there's the next one 00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:26.099 there, Andy. Is this one from Set? Yes. King's 00:36:26.099 --> 00:36:29.219 Strongest Hammer. Worst character is Angron. 00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:32.820 Not because of his story, but he isn't a character. 00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:36.059 He is an event that happens. As for best, I think 00:36:36.059 --> 00:36:38.079 Ibran Gond is a great character. If someone very 00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:40.739 boneheaded, if some very boneheaded decisions 00:36:40.739 --> 00:36:43.280 from time to time, but genuinely did care about 00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:46.480 the people under him, and it shows. For fantasy, 00:36:46.539 --> 00:36:48.760 the worst character, I believe, is I think Wulfric 00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:51.190 the Wanderer. Because there's so much to give 00:36:51.190 --> 00:36:55.170 him but feel so little. As for the best, I think 00:36:55.170 --> 00:36:57.909 it's Maxwell Schreiber. Got trick and Felix in 00:36:57.909 --> 00:36:59.469 brackets. I don't know how to spell it. He's 00:36:59.469 --> 00:37:01.409 quite interesting, but just a mage surrounded 00:37:01.409 --> 00:37:03.610 by powerful people and then eventually becoming 00:37:03.610 --> 00:37:08.449 extremely powerful in his own right. So, yeah. 00:37:09.429 --> 00:37:11.289 I don't really know about the fantasy characters 00:37:11.289 --> 00:37:14.869 much, but can't argue with the other ones. I 00:37:14.869 --> 00:37:18.010 would like to say this man has incredibly valid 00:37:18.010 --> 00:37:24.489 opinions. angron is kind of just he is not a 00:37:24.489 --> 00:37:26.349 character anymore angron is just a challenge 00:37:26.349 --> 00:37:31.289 ibrahim gaunt is um again i've only done a little 00:37:31.289 --> 00:37:33.949 bit of gaunt's ghost but i know he's quite well 00:37:33.949 --> 00:37:38.489 beloved uh wolfric the wanderer is in fact like 00:37:38.489 --> 00:37:40.949 the character who everyone is like he's surface 00:37:40.949 --> 00:37:43.610 level amazing and then as a character i'm just 00:37:43.610 --> 00:37:49.969 like oh is that puppy It is puppy. It is puppy. 00:37:51.429 --> 00:37:54.550 We have dog. We have dog on screen, people. Dog, 00:37:54.550 --> 00:37:56.849 dog, dog, dog, dog. And what was the last one? 00:37:57.110 --> 00:37:59.949 Oh, and Max, obviously, the favorite character, 00:38:00.070 --> 00:38:03.130 Colin, you missed, was Max Schreiber, which, 00:38:03.269 --> 00:38:09.909 yeah. I like that. I like that. It's a Max enjoyer. 00:38:09.909 --> 00:38:14.670 He is pretty goaded. Pretty damn. I mean, people 00:38:14.670 --> 00:38:17.079 want to know more about him. We have Godric and 00:38:17.079 --> 00:38:18.900 Felix episodes. In fact, we should probably do 00:38:18.900 --> 00:38:22.320 a compilation of all the episodes soon so people 00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:25.460 can get caught up to date on that one. He is 00:38:25.460 --> 00:38:28.219 unfortunately in the cuck chair, but he is still 00:38:28.219 --> 00:38:32.500 cool. Oh, dear. He does just watch from the sidelines 00:38:32.500 --> 00:38:35.159 while Felix is tearing it up, unfortunately. 00:38:38.139 --> 00:38:41.019 Oh, Hal, you're going to love this next one. 00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:48.360 Is this from Vulcan? Yep. Oh, I see why. Vulcan 00:38:48.360 --> 00:38:52.460 says, worst character in 40k, I would say Ahriman, 00:38:52.659 --> 00:38:55.119 due to the inability of his narrative to be able 00:38:55.119 --> 00:38:57.099 to progress and his inconsistent power scaling 00:38:57.099 --> 00:39:00.239 as the greatest sorcerer. Though this may be 00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:02.760 more to the fact that his books are a pain to 00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:06.159 get through and logistically not much anything 00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:09.539 actually happens in progression. Best in 40k, 00:39:09.659 --> 00:39:12.480 tie between Fabius Bile and the lion, in brackets, 00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:15.809 son of the forest lion for me right now. Lyle's 00:39:15.809 --> 00:39:19.010 a good shout. And also Ariman is trash. I've 00:39:19.010 --> 00:39:21.429 said it. We listen and we don't judge, but I 00:39:21.429 --> 00:39:24.789 wish to disagree very, very strongly on one thing. 00:39:25.530 --> 00:39:29.329 Ariman in the horror's heresy. I dig it. Cause 00:39:29.329 --> 00:39:31.869 that's Graham McNeil is, is in charge of that 00:39:31.869 --> 00:39:35.409 part. And I liked the whole Ironman story of 00:39:35.409 --> 00:39:39.179 basically him being like, you know what? kind 00:39:39.179 --> 00:39:42.860 of sucks like he like comes to terms with it 00:39:42.860 --> 00:39:47.019 but he's also like i have nothing else uh ariman 00:39:47.019 --> 00:39:51.179 in the 40k novels by john french he would also 00:39:51.179 --> 00:39:55.079 say he's a very good author john french but he's 00:39:55.079 --> 00:39:57.920 totally right like it just goes in circles man 00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:00.199 like like there's a thing of like ironman's the 00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:04.000 most powerful sorcerer ever and then like he 00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:08.940 never gets to flex i mean He never never flexes. 00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:13.460 Do you know who wrote the book? Darius Hinks. 00:40:14.099 --> 00:40:17.300 Because he's a sorcerer -esque character. His 00:40:17.300 --> 00:40:19.440 books are great fun. Whale of a time. Lots of 00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:22.739 different species and plot points. But then Ahriman 00:40:22.739 --> 00:40:25.119 is just kind of stodgily like, I've just got 00:40:25.119 --> 00:40:27.340 to bring the rubric back. Got to reverse the 00:40:27.340 --> 00:40:30.460 rubric. Got to try a new rubric. Stop my brothers 00:40:30.460 --> 00:40:34.760 being made of sand. I get it. Can we have like... 00:40:35.130 --> 00:40:38.230 Maybe an adventure that isn't just, I've got 00:40:38.230 --> 00:40:40.710 to find a way to reverse the rubric. Can you 00:40:40.710 --> 00:40:43.269 smile for once in your life, you boring asshole? 00:40:43.730 --> 00:40:49.369 Yeah, exactly. The first Ironman 40K book is 00:40:49.369 --> 00:40:51.809 good. I like that one. Because it's a whole, 00:40:51.929 --> 00:40:54.590 he's basically run away from it. And only to 00:40:54.590 --> 00:40:56.510 the very end of that story does he actually like, 00:40:56.670 --> 00:40:59.469 you know what? I actually don't give up. And 00:40:59.469 --> 00:41:02.590 he gets his power back in some sense. After that, 00:41:02.690 --> 00:41:06.570 it really is like, it's always been the problem 00:41:06.570 --> 00:41:09.050 of like, it's never really first person perspective 00:41:09.050 --> 00:41:12.150 from like that point on much. So I remember just 00:41:12.150 --> 00:41:13.949 kind of like this figure who's like walking around 00:41:13.949 --> 00:41:16.710 being like, we're doing this thing next. It's 00:41:16.710 --> 00:41:18.289 like, why are we doing that thing next? Hmm, 00:41:18.449 --> 00:41:22.230 reasons. Like it literally is that. Because. 00:41:23.630 --> 00:41:27.420 Although. Even Mike is in the chat saying he's 00:41:27.420 --> 00:41:29.960 cooler than Kion, though. I prefer Kion. I think, 00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:32.460 as Skandor, Kion is a better character. He's 00:41:32.460 --> 00:41:37.199 more interesting. Sorry. I like him. Just give 00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:39.800 me the Iron Man plot. I can fix him. Please. 00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:45.000 I can fix him. He's okay. Oh, dear. That was 00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:48.599 painful, though. Should we mention the next one 00:41:48.599 --> 00:41:53.949 from Onacon? I won't say a specific character, 00:41:54.150 --> 00:41:56.969 but the entire concept of perpetuals and literally 00:41:56.969 --> 00:41:59.389 everything they have tainted. The entire idea 00:41:59.389 --> 00:42:01.170 is very cool, but done so vastly differently 00:42:01.170 --> 00:42:06.170 and really just total BS. It removes the sense 00:42:06.170 --> 00:42:08.989 of stakes. Vulcan, John, Big E, anyone who is 00:42:08.989 --> 00:42:12.630 one is a total burning shit bag. I don't care. 00:42:12.670 --> 00:42:15.309 You have infinite plot armor, so you're not interesting 00:42:15.309 --> 00:42:18.230 in the slightest. For best, it's Conrad Kurz. 00:42:18.369 --> 00:42:20.769 I'm joking. It's Angron. Interesting. He's an 00:42:20.769 --> 00:42:23.480 amazing... He's an amazing, tragic, and compassionate 00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:26.039 character who should have gotten so much better. 00:42:26.199 --> 00:42:28.880 So many things he says are right. It's hard not 00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:30.880 to justify why he's literally the best character 00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:34.000 ever written. Even when it's a gibbering slop 00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:37.099 pile, he always shines out. To literally quote 00:42:37.099 --> 00:42:40.760 right from Betrayer, you kept that mule Corferon. 00:42:40.900 --> 00:42:43.920 Russ had his kin friends. The lion kept Luther. 00:42:45.489 --> 00:42:48.309 ...brothers and foster fathers. Saved and raised 00:42:48.309 --> 00:42:50.829 into the Legion ranks, but not me. Not Angron, 00:42:50.829 --> 00:42:53.050 no. Did the Emperor teleport his gold -wrapped 00:42:53.050 --> 00:42:55.690 custodians down to help me in my army? No. Did 00:42:55.690 --> 00:42:57.489 he free the warhounds and order them to battle, 00:42:57.610 --> 00:43:00.829 fight alongside me? No. Did he save my brothers 00:43:00.829 --> 00:43:03.429 and sisters the way he spared the honoured Scion's 00:43:03.429 --> 00:43:07.210 closest kin? The way he honoured Cor Feron? No, 00:43:07.369 --> 00:43:11.210 no, and no. No mercy for Angron. Angron the Oathbreaker. 00:43:11.869 --> 00:43:14.969 Angron the Betrayer. He truly utterly deserved 00:43:14.969 --> 00:43:17.070 better and should be everyone's favourite character. 00:43:17.429 --> 00:43:22.670 I disagree, but fair enough. He's cool. He's 00:43:22.670 --> 00:43:26.650 cool. But the only trouble is, as someone already... 00:43:26.650 --> 00:43:29.010 I was only going to say that someone's already 00:43:29.010 --> 00:43:31.610 kind of mentioned him and Khan are just kind 00:43:31.610 --> 00:43:33.969 of forces of nature now, but at least Khan has 00:43:33.969 --> 00:43:36.909 moments where he has, like, semblances of sanity 00:43:36.909 --> 00:43:39.860 that creep in, and he's more like a... villain 00:43:39.860 --> 00:43:42.639 of the week but hang on just he's this big monster 00:43:42.639 --> 00:43:45.880 guy now he's a big boobly scoobly guy that goes 00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:52.659 and hits people i have two thing two things i 00:43:52.659 --> 00:43:55.019 feel like one i i feel like it's pretty easy 00:43:55.019 --> 00:43:57.179 to agree with uh he didn't deserve what he got 00:43:57.179 --> 00:43:59.219 i don't i don't think anyone deserves to have 00:43:59.219 --> 00:44:01.460 nails jammed in their brains when they're a toddler 00:44:01.460 --> 00:44:04.630 you know i feel that's a that that's a pretty 00:44:04.630 --> 00:44:07.110 easy cause to rally behind you know wow getting 00:44:07.110 --> 00:44:10.610 political and law crimes i'm sorry i'm just gonna 00:44:10.610 --> 00:44:13.690 say it don't jam nails in a toddler's brain i'm 00:44:13.690 --> 00:44:17.050 sorry back in the old day before all this woke 00:44:17.050 --> 00:44:22.000 stuff we could jam as many We can't have anything 00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:25.300 now. It's fine with Snorri Nosebiter, but you 00:44:25.300 --> 00:44:27.340 can't do it to a toddler. I don't know. It seems 00:44:27.340 --> 00:44:31.199 a bit... Back in my day, we used to climb mountains 00:44:31.199 --> 00:44:33.400 to get to school. We could also put nails in 00:44:33.400 --> 00:44:36.380 each other. Back in my day, we used to eat broken 00:44:36.380 --> 00:44:41.719 glass for sustenance. Kids these days. The other 00:44:41.719 --> 00:44:46.300 thing that makes me think of is that I think 00:44:46.300 --> 00:44:51.130 if... I feel like you're kind of missing the 00:44:51.130 --> 00:44:56.829 point when it, if people like when you, when, 00:44:56.929 --> 00:44:59.210 like when people talk about how the, the like 00:44:59.210 --> 00:45:03.690 chaos characters kind of lose character once 00:45:03.690 --> 00:45:07.550 they fall to chaos. I mean, that's the point 00:45:07.550 --> 00:45:09.809 though. Like that's the thing with Angra. Like, 00:45:09.929 --> 00:45:12.349 yeah, he stops being interesting because he is 00:45:12.349 --> 00:45:15.449 damned. He is a demon. same for magnus same for 00:45:15.449 --> 00:45:17.949 lorgas well not well yeah kind of lorga same 00:45:17.949 --> 00:45:21.530 for all of them like fulgur magnus magnus has 00:45:21.530 --> 00:45:23.170 moments where he's like i'm gonna bring sort 00:45:23.170 --> 00:45:26.710 of arius back to the material realm there's bits 00:45:26.710 --> 00:45:28.730 where he's in books and he has like weird he's 00:45:28.730 --> 00:45:30.769 clearly lost his mind and he has weird interactions 00:45:30.769 --> 00:45:33.909 fulgrim's a bit of a crazy fella in the books 00:45:33.909 --> 00:45:35.889 he's involved with even with fabius biles stuff 00:45:37.130 --> 00:45:40.429 Mortarion is a petty bish. But Angron is just... 00:45:40.429 --> 00:45:43.050 And that's all you kind of get from him. And 00:45:43.050 --> 00:45:48.550 I get why. It is the worst with him. But it is 00:45:48.550 --> 00:45:53.690 like... I'm trying to figure out how to word 00:45:53.690 --> 00:45:56.469 it. It's like... It's true to form of his character. 00:45:58.989 --> 00:46:02.409 They've all reached their character arc. It's 00:46:02.409 --> 00:46:04.650 like the arc is finished. They have fallen to 00:46:04.650 --> 00:46:08.440 chaos. The horse heresy is over. They're kind 00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:10.739 of done developing his characters because they 00:46:10.739 --> 00:46:13.340 have achieved Demon Primarchhood. We've kind 00:46:13.340 --> 00:46:16.179 of... We've hit the end of the road. I'm afraid 00:46:16.179 --> 00:46:21.760 that it's going to... Yeah, it's over now. And 00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:23.820 that's why we'll never get Perturabo back in 00:46:23.820 --> 00:46:26.099 the setting, guys. He's hit Demon Primarch. We 00:46:26.099 --> 00:46:28.420 can't do anything else with him. He's gone. It's 00:46:28.420 --> 00:46:31.460 over, boys. It's over. I think really only one 00:46:31.460 --> 00:46:34.440 that escapes that is Mortarion slightly. He's 00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:38.429 kind of almost... the same like even play in 00:46:38.429 --> 00:46:41.590 the dark imperium trilogy he's like because he 00:46:41.590 --> 00:46:45.010 resists uh chaos in some sense he's not he's 00:46:45.010 --> 00:46:47.090 he's not fully either he's fully in but he's 00:46:47.090 --> 00:46:51.070 not fully in so yeah he still has potential for 00:46:51.070 --> 00:46:53.869 character something he's just obviously he's 00:46:53.869 --> 00:46:57.010 like he's too far in to like change his mind 00:46:57.010 --> 00:46:59.150 he's like well i can't change my mind i could 00:46:59.150 --> 00:47:02.690 but he won't and there are like like one of the 00:47:02.690 --> 00:47:06.190 ones that's kind of a laugh is in lucas uh not 00:47:06.190 --> 00:47:09.030 lucas's book lucas in uh stormcaller which is 00:47:09.030 --> 00:47:11.789 um you know stormcaller's book he has a face 00:47:11.789 --> 00:47:14.250 off with magnus and magnus is being all machiavellian 00:47:14.250 --> 00:47:16.989 and he's all like ah i've got i stole one of 00:47:16.989 --> 00:47:19.630 your spells from your library from the blue scribes 00:47:19.630 --> 00:47:23.469 yeah and he's like a bargain dog no no no no 00:47:23.469 --> 00:47:26.710 i'm lucas And there's the bit where it's like, 00:47:26.809 --> 00:47:28.789 oh, okay, give that back and I'll let you and 00:47:28.789 --> 00:47:31.150 your mates run away from this portal. So he gives 00:47:31.150 --> 00:47:32.550 him it back. And it was just like, it wasn't 00:47:32.550 --> 00:47:34.590 a spell. It was just like some piece of paper 00:47:34.590 --> 00:47:36.750 that he had on him. And then Lucas is doing this 00:47:36.750 --> 00:47:38.530 as he runs through the portal with his mates 00:47:38.530 --> 00:47:40.949 all cackling to themselves. And you can have 00:47:40.949 --> 00:47:43.369 those moments where like those Primarchs can 00:47:43.369 --> 00:47:46.630 have moments where they interact, but Angron 00:47:46.630 --> 00:47:50.230 is somewhat damned to be like. unless you can 00:47:50.230 --> 00:47:52.150 strain him somehow, which would be very difficult, 00:47:52.289 --> 00:47:54.010 you're not really going to get much conversation 00:47:54.010 --> 00:47:56.110 out of him, which is a bit of a shame. There's 00:47:56.110 --> 00:47:59.349 only one bit. It was in the Angron book that 00:47:59.349 --> 00:48:02.929 came out just before 10th came out. And it says 00:48:02.929 --> 00:48:05.929 like when he Korn empowers him and he like splits 00:48:05.929 --> 00:48:08.030 the world in two with the one strike ends up 00:48:08.030 --> 00:48:11.730 killing him. And it says for like for one peaceful 00:48:11.730 --> 00:48:15.650 moment, the nails don't bite. And he's like sitting 00:48:15.650 --> 00:48:19.110 there and he's just like. And it's like, oh, 00:48:19.250 --> 00:48:22.590 damn, man. That's his equivalent of a cigarette 00:48:22.590 --> 00:48:26.949 after having sex. He's never been free of the 00:48:26.949 --> 00:48:29.389 nails, apart from that one time. So it's like, 00:48:29.489 --> 00:48:35.090 damn, man. That's tragic. My boy. Sad. And then 00:48:35.090 --> 00:48:38.449 Angron went for a moment before going back to 00:48:38.449 --> 00:48:44.010 being a madman. That's quite fun. I think there's 00:48:44.010 --> 00:48:46.250 a few more donos, though, before we move on to 00:48:46.250 --> 00:48:48.679 the next section. We do have a few donations. 00:48:49.219 --> 00:48:51.860 First one from Clean Yourself. Clean Yourself, 00:48:51.900 --> 00:48:56.119 folks, for 10. Best character, Ickit. Now, Ickrit. 00:48:56.739 --> 00:49:02.519 Ickrit. Ickit Claw. Ickrit. NickNack3587 for 00:49:02.519 --> 00:49:05.659 10 bucks. Thank you, man. Good to see you, Boinks. 00:49:06.019 --> 00:49:09.619 Hot take. Worst guy is Fulgrim for people. In 00:49:09.619 --> 00:49:12.360 brackets, Eli. Thinking he's even a nice guy, 00:49:12.500 --> 00:49:15.800 even though he's been the worst for 500 times 00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:19.340 longer. uh best is gotrek for being a deep character 00:49:19.340 --> 00:49:23.340 in a small shell that is true you know small 00:49:23.340 --> 00:49:33.099 short yeah you know fulcrum has kind of been 00:49:33.099 --> 00:49:37.460 the worst for far longer than he's been tolerable 00:49:37.460 --> 00:49:42.719 not if you just say good he was i you know what 00:49:42.719 --> 00:49:46.409 i recall i did a uh recent fulgrim video i took 00:49:46.409 --> 00:49:50.030 that on amber king but i had to say like rereading 00:49:50.030 --> 00:49:54.050 all his stuff he's always been an like even from 00:49:54.050 --> 00:49:56.409 his like oh yeah yeah early great crusade book 00:49:56.409 --> 00:50:00.309 it's all up it's all the facade about me like 00:50:00.309 --> 00:50:06.449 whenever you read something about fulgrim being 00:50:06.449 --> 00:50:09.710 like noble and like you know all that stuff i 00:50:09.710 --> 00:50:15.280 feel like it's either a one -sentence blurb or 00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:20.219 it's talking in past tense. Yeah, or it's debatable. 00:50:20.860 --> 00:50:27.420 Or it's an arguable point. He was only nice because 00:50:27.420 --> 00:50:30.880 it's supposedly like the perfect being would 00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:33.019 be nice, not that he actually feels like being 00:50:33.019 --> 00:50:39.139 nice to people. He's kind of an arse. He's an 00:50:39.139 --> 00:50:43.159 actual arsehole. this one's very up your alley 00:50:43.159 --> 00:50:49.300 colin with the profile pic of uh hell yeah nova 00:50:49.300 --> 00:50:51.920 box thank you for the five perhaps the real best 00:50:51.920 --> 00:50:54.440 character was the friends we made along the way 00:50:54.440 --> 00:51:03.659 oh that's sweet that's nice set for 199 the breathing 00:51:03.659 --> 00:51:08.239 thing colin it stopped me dead colin breathing 00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:12.199 I'm sorry. I thank you for the donut. I'm still 00:51:12.199 --> 00:51:16.219 confused. I think this was in reference to whether 00:51:16.219 --> 00:51:18.380 he was just like manual breathing and stuff. 00:51:18.400 --> 00:51:25.039 Oh, that. Yeah. You know that. Jesus Christ. 00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:28.280 Your throat is itches, but you can't clear it 00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:34.320 deep down enough to scratch the itch. Yeah. Colin 00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:38.570 will wear a hat, a green hat in two weeks. If 00:51:38.570 --> 00:51:40.650 get my hands on Mephiston, the keeper of secret 00:51:40.650 --> 00:51:43.989 feet tongue kiss is the least worst thing that'll 00:51:43.989 --> 00:51:47.510 happen. He'll be an inch man after the first 00:51:47.510 --> 00:51:50.070 eight hours. There's a lot going on in that couple 00:51:50.070 --> 00:51:52.730 of sentences. And I don't know. I want, I don't 00:51:52.730 --> 00:51:57.210 know. I want to comprehend it. Please seek, please 00:51:57.210 --> 00:52:03.190 seek therapy. My cult that link five for the 00:52:03.190 --> 00:52:12.789 green hat. Bruh. uh 10 bucks uh best character 00:52:12.789 --> 00:52:17.030 is the phantom lunch i had using colin's code 00:52:17.030 --> 00:52:22.170 worst character is the effing krieger kriegler 00:52:22.170 --> 00:52:26.550 from vampire slayer uh horrible person and high 00:52:26.550 --> 00:52:30.750 on his own sheet shed every time he talks Yeah, 00:52:30.849 --> 00:52:33.630 Krieger was kind of awful, and his first name 00:52:33.630 --> 00:52:36.969 is Adolphus, and if you needed more proof someone's 00:52:36.969 --> 00:52:39.550 a bad person, then Adolph being part of the name 00:52:39.550 --> 00:52:43.409 is a pretty compelling argument for him being 00:52:43.409 --> 00:52:48.429 a shitter. Also, God bless you, first human being 00:52:48.429 --> 00:52:51.389 on the planet to use a YouTuber's sponsor code, 00:52:51.630 --> 00:52:56.769 and it was mine. God fucking bless. Wow. I've 00:52:56.769 --> 00:53:01.119 never even considered it now. In the house. I 00:53:01.119 --> 00:53:02.880 agree, Perpetuals should have been a one -off 00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:06.579 with Jon for fun and never mentioned again. We 00:53:06.579 --> 00:53:09.800 agree. Or at least I agree. Perpetuals are meh. 00:53:09.860 --> 00:53:14.039 Well, they're all dead, basically. Even Vulcan. 00:53:15.179 --> 00:53:21.000 Again. Yeah. The Siege of Terra should have had 00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:25.190 a... You know Marvel What If? There should have 00:53:25.190 --> 00:53:27.809 been a version of that where Horus and the Emperor 00:53:27.809 --> 00:53:30.210 come together and just kick him in the ribs over 00:53:30.210 --> 00:53:35.550 and over again. Heresy averted at the last minute 00:53:35.550 --> 00:53:40.269 due to beating up Jon. It's Sigmar with the steel 00:53:40.269 --> 00:53:43.730 chair! And then he's like, yeah, what if? You 00:53:43.730 --> 00:53:46.659 have Horus here. he's here to beat up john too 00:53:46.659 --> 00:53:50.699 you have horus heresy you have dornian heresy 00:53:50.699 --> 00:53:53.699 you have gilliman heresy now there's grammatica's 00:53:53.699 --> 00:53:57.860 heresy and it ends in two pages or call it grammatical 00:53:57.860 --> 00:54:01.139 grammaticalism there you go that's what i'd call 00:54:01.139 --> 00:54:06.460 it now for the next again this one we've got 00:54:06.460 --> 00:54:08.840 some longer ones here boys i don't even get to 00:54:08.840 --> 00:54:11.239 all of them but they got people were really okay 00:54:11.239 --> 00:54:14.210 this this one was particularly uh particularly 00:54:14.210 --> 00:54:19.110 important goddamn essay uh direct to mig says 00:54:19.110 --> 00:54:23.250 uh worst character leman ross i don't feel like 00:54:23.250 --> 00:54:26.210 i need to explain myself but i will first off 00:54:26.210 --> 00:54:28.690 he's such a stupid and hypocritical character 00:54:28.690 --> 00:54:32.670 he's an effing idiot but copes by saying i was 00:54:32.670 --> 00:54:35.909 just pretending to be an idiot when in fact he's 00:54:35.909 --> 00:54:39.070 just a dumb ass he makes it back to terror during 00:54:39.070 --> 00:54:42.389 the heresy only to decide that he wanted to 1v1 00:54:42.389 --> 00:54:45.570 Horus for some BS reason and leaves with his 00:54:45.570 --> 00:54:49.250 entire legion. Now, I wouldn't be mad if it worked 00:54:49.250 --> 00:54:51.829 out, but not only did he not do anything good, 00:54:51.989 --> 00:54:56.010 it backfired horribly. Sure, he wounds Horus 00:54:56.010 --> 00:54:58.969 with a spear. Big whoop. Guess what, though? 00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:02.639 The wound is what caused Horus to finally give 00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:05.059 in and let himself be taken over by the Chaos 00:55:05.059 --> 00:55:07.519 Gods. And if that wasn't bad enough, he basically 00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:10.460 sacrificed his entire goddamn legion to give 00:55:10.460 --> 00:55:13.579 Horus a finger prick. Staying a terror to help 00:55:13.579 --> 00:55:15.599 defend and give the loyalists a chance to win 00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:18.860 the siege? You know, question. F that, I'm gonna 00:55:18.860 --> 00:55:21.940 go suicide run and cause more effing harm than 00:55:21.940 --> 00:55:24.179 good. And this isn't even mentioning the sheer 00:55:24.179 --> 00:55:27.579 effing idiocy of the burning of Prospero. Now, 00:55:27.579 --> 00:55:30.340 I'm not even a T -Sons fan. That's a shame. They 00:55:30.340 --> 00:55:33.019 didn't deserve what happened. Actually, even 00:55:33.019 --> 00:55:36.460 before Posse, Lee even F'd them over. And the 00:55:36.460 --> 00:55:38.900 Imperium, with the Council of Nykia, granted 00:55:38.900 --> 00:55:41.219 it was him and Morty who were the biggest offenders. 00:55:41.519 --> 00:55:45.780 But if Jagatai, in brackets, my king, and the 00:55:45.780 --> 00:55:48.719 nerd were allowed to create the Librarians, the 00:55:48.719 --> 00:55:50.860 Imperium would have fared much better during 00:55:50.860 --> 00:55:53.980 the heresy. Also, we're halfway through, by the 00:55:53.980 --> 00:55:57.880 way. Also, you can't say that the Thousand Suns 00:55:57.880 --> 00:55:59.920 did nothing wrong while I'm purging Thousand 00:55:59.920 --> 00:56:01.800 Suns in the footage. That's just what's going 00:56:01.800 --> 00:56:04.619 on there. Also, if psychos weren't outlawed at 00:56:04.619 --> 00:56:06.960 the council, the burning of Prospero wouldn't 00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:10.019 have had any reason to happen. But ignoring all 00:56:10.019 --> 00:56:12.119 of that, when Lemus was said to bring Magnus 00:56:12.119 --> 00:56:14.320 back to Terra and Horace told him to kill his 00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:17.469 brother. Lehman didn't step back to use any critical 00:56:17.469 --> 00:56:20.889 thinking skills at all. No thoughts of, hmm, 00:56:21.230 --> 00:56:25.590 this conflict with my father's orders. Maybe 00:56:25.590 --> 00:56:28.710 I should double check. Or even, hmm, maybe I 00:56:28.710 --> 00:56:31.030 shouldn't kill my brother. I'm sure father has 00:56:31.030 --> 00:56:35.090 his reasons to bring Magnus to Terra. I think 00:56:35.090 --> 00:56:40.269 we need to start implementing a sentence limit. 00:56:43.150 --> 00:56:45.570 I'll try and wrap it up quickly. No, instead 00:56:45.570 --> 00:56:48.269 of leaving, there's still another third of this 00:56:48.269 --> 00:56:50.769 paragraph. And decides to kill the entire Legion. 00:56:51.030 --> 00:56:53.170 Magnus isn't without blame during this either, 00:56:53.309 --> 00:56:56.250 since he was just moping around his masturbatorium, 00:56:56.429 --> 00:56:59.110 letting his planet die. But Russ was the one 00:56:59.110 --> 00:57:01.289 who made the decision to wipe out a Primarch's 00:57:01.289 --> 00:57:04.969 homeworld and expected no resistance. Even with 00:57:04.969 --> 00:57:06.929 his disappearance, even his disappearance is 00:57:06.929 --> 00:57:09.130 stupid. He just F'd off into the Eye of Terror 00:57:09.130 --> 00:57:11.929 to find some mythical tree of life to heal Big 00:57:11.929 --> 00:57:14.760 E. If only there happened to be a fifth loyalist 00:57:14.760 --> 00:57:17.039 Primarch present at the Siege of Terror with 00:57:17.039 --> 00:57:19.519 his entire legion. Maybe Big E wouldn't need 00:57:19.519 --> 00:57:22.619 healing in the first place, in brackets, in capitals. 00:57:22.659 --> 00:57:26.760 And on top of all of this, GW is teasing about 00:57:26.760 --> 00:57:29.940 bringing him back. F you, bring back the Khan, 00:57:30.119 --> 00:57:32.480 you coward. Lehman has done nothing but ruin 00:57:32.480 --> 00:57:34.920 everything he touches. I can't deny, even the 00:57:34.920 --> 00:57:37.239 Lehman Russ out -drinking the Emperor on Fenris 00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:40.039 was awesome. It's his best character. I don't 00:57:40.039 --> 00:57:42.059 know. Alpharius, maybe. You disagree. You were 00:57:42.059 --> 00:57:44.260 simply manipulated by Alpharius into not liking 00:57:44.260 --> 00:57:46.239 him so you can carry out some bull -ass, ass 00:57:46.239 --> 00:57:49.780 -pull plan. There you go. Don't be honest. I 00:57:49.780 --> 00:57:51.199 thought you were going to say best character, 00:57:51.340 --> 00:57:52.960 the Khan, because you mentioned him twice, but 00:57:52.960 --> 00:57:55.659 okay, fair play. You know what? I think this 00:57:55.659 --> 00:57:59.219 man has said everything. All right, all right, 00:57:59.219 --> 00:58:01.820 all right. What's there to add? One thing, though. 00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:04.440 One thing, though. He didn't lose to Angron. 00:58:04.440 --> 00:58:09.360 He chose to lose. There's a difference. He fought 00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:12.440 Angron and he was like, I'm not going to go full 00:58:12.440 --> 00:58:18.019 wolf on you. That's law accurate. I'm going to 00:58:18.019 --> 00:58:20.360 briefly mention the second one because it's not 00:58:20.360 --> 00:58:22.239 like a full... I can't read the full answer, 00:58:22.420 --> 00:58:26.039 but you know who you are. Lilith of the Outdoor 00:58:26.039 --> 00:58:29.559 Press. In honor of Colin, the worst Warhammer 00:58:29.559 --> 00:58:32.179 character in the whole country of Bretonnia. 00:58:32.780 --> 00:58:34.960 Oh, sorry, the worst character is the whole country 00:58:34.960 --> 00:58:39.170 of Bretonnia. the best character is almighty 00:58:39.170 --> 00:58:43.349 cetera great great king the imperishable kemi 00:58:43.349 --> 00:58:46.489 kara the great king of nahikara king of kings 00:58:46.489 --> 00:58:48.949 opener of the ways wield of the divine flame 00:58:48.949 --> 00:58:51.550 punisher of the nomad the great unifier commander 00:58:51.550 --> 00:58:53.989 of the golden legions sacred of the appearance 00:58:53.989 --> 00:58:57.409 bringer of light father of hawks builder of cities 00:58:57.409 --> 00:59:00.650 protector of the two worlds and etc etc etc the 00:59:00.650 --> 00:59:03.110 man did actually write the entire the entire 00:59:03.110 --> 00:59:07.690 list out And we have read that out before. The 00:59:07.690 --> 00:59:12.030 Bohemian Yapsody, I've heard it called. That 00:59:12.030 --> 00:59:14.469 was from a brilliant comment I saw on our Great 00:59:14.469 --> 00:59:17.110 Crusade compilation, so yeah, couldn't help mention 00:59:17.110 --> 00:59:20.389 it. Is Tetra the best character in Fantasy, Colin? 00:59:21.250 --> 00:59:29.690 I mean, he's pretty great. It's like all hype 00:59:29.690 --> 00:59:33.769 moments and just aura, but by God, does he do 00:59:33.769 --> 00:59:38.469 it well. I only realized recently there's a whole 00:59:38.469 --> 00:59:41.750 book about Sigmar. I didn't realize he had books. 00:59:42.090 --> 00:59:44.849 Does he get much character out of those? Yeah, 00:59:44.849 --> 00:59:49.949 he's got a couple books. I saw it and I was like, 00:59:49.989 --> 00:59:54.369 oh. Yeah, he's still a barbarian guy, but that's 00:59:54.369 --> 00:59:59.369 Sigmar. That's the man. You do me sticking. Well, 00:59:59.550 --> 01:00:04.269 I think Cetra's pretty amazing. Bretonnia could... 01:00:04.719 --> 01:00:07.619 probably get shafted if Colin thinks... I try 01:00:07.619 --> 01:00:10.800 not to judge that one. I will. I think Ickitclaw's 01:00:10.800 --> 01:00:14.219 nukes need to be deployed to Bretonnia. Just 01:00:14.219 --> 01:00:17.880 get rid of it. I don't mind Bretonnia. I don't 01:00:17.880 --> 01:00:20.880 think it... It's very surface level, but I don't 01:00:20.880 --> 01:00:23.480 know what else in Warhammer in some way wasn't 01:00:23.480 --> 01:00:27.860 that to begin with. Like, I mean, it is... The 01:00:27.860 --> 01:00:30.460 Empire is Holy Roman Empire, copy and pasted 01:00:30.460 --> 01:00:34.590 in certain... in the bear yeah but at least like 01:00:34.590 --> 01:00:39.110 they've got you know magic colleges and you know 01:00:39.110 --> 01:00:43.489 look the question how would the holy roman empire 01:00:43.489 --> 01:00:47.530 handle a demon invasion is a fun question to 01:00:47.530 --> 01:00:50.809 think about i know how king arthur would handle 01:00:50.809 --> 01:00:54.090 a demon invasion he's king arthur he'd go stab 01:00:54.090 --> 01:00:58.090 them and sure enough that's all pretonia does 01:01:00.110 --> 01:01:02.769 Oh, where's Mike? Poor Mike, the Bretonnian knight 01:01:02.769 --> 01:01:06.170 in our chat is listening. He's seriously offended, 01:01:06.489 --> 01:01:09.630 I can tell. That's his response right there. 01:01:10.010 --> 01:01:13.389 We did the next one here by Captain Duct Tape, 01:01:13.389 --> 01:01:16.090 which is a great name. I think the best character 01:01:16.090 --> 01:01:18.849 to me would be Talos of the Night Lords. He and 01:01:18.849 --> 01:01:21.849 Savitar seem to be the only two who had any idea 01:01:21.849 --> 01:01:24.369 of what Curse wanted from his legion and his 01:01:24.369 --> 01:01:28.070 noble... justification for horrific actions makes 01:01:28.070 --> 01:01:30.110 him the best embodiment of what the eighth legion 01:01:30.110 --> 01:01:34.469 was meant to be uh the worst would be most anyone 01:01:34.469 --> 01:01:38.429 post corn corruption the idea of corn but i love 01:01:38.429 --> 01:01:40.730 the idea of corn but it seems like everyone just 01:01:40.730 --> 01:01:43.170 turns into mindless berserkers he's a god of 01:01:43.170 --> 01:01:46.610 war and a body survivor the fittest his generals 01:01:46.610 --> 01:01:49.929 should be amongst the best he should not he should 01:01:49.929 --> 01:01:53.429 not shun stealth deception is a part of war He 01:01:53.429 --> 01:01:56.130 should shun betrayal instead, which is in brackets 01:01:56.130 --> 01:01:58.949 ironic, I know. Obviously can't the betrayer. 01:01:59.530 --> 01:02:04.449 From the strong survive standpoint, many predators 01:02:04.449 --> 01:02:07.190 rely on ambushes. Basically, I think Khorne characters 01:02:07.190 --> 01:02:10.349 I've read about don't embody a war god as much 01:02:10.349 --> 01:02:14.489 as a god of being angry. I'm sad because I like 01:02:14.489 --> 01:02:16.949 the war god. Maybe there's some books that can 01:02:16.949 --> 01:02:21.670 do it better. This is pretty based opinion on... 01:02:22.039 --> 01:02:26.440 uh corn stuff in touch like it is pretty like 01:02:26.440 --> 01:02:28.260 how we've discussed this on lord crimes before 01:02:28.260 --> 01:02:30.039 where they've i think me and colin have had a 01:02:30.039 --> 01:02:33.800 thing about like corn is like it's i find it 01:02:33.800 --> 01:02:36.280 it's a contradiction it's like corn cares not 01:02:36.280 --> 01:02:38.920 where the blood flows but yet he likes honorable 01:02:38.920 --> 01:02:42.119 combat but then you see a bunch of berserkers 01:02:42.119 --> 01:02:44.940 being like civilians you know form -based like 01:02:44.940 --> 01:02:47.980 pounding you know our eagles spread jumping into 01:02:47.980 --> 01:02:52.909 them and yeah you know i don't I don't get it. 01:02:54.210 --> 01:02:56.630 It's an inconsistent writing thing, especially 01:02:56.630 --> 01:02:59.090 because as time has gone on, they've kind of 01:02:59.090 --> 01:03:02.489 pulled away from the chaos gods truly having 01:03:02.489 --> 01:03:06.409 positive aspects. How's so much Nurgle there? 01:03:09.710 --> 01:03:13.829 Nurgle's kind of there, but they've even... I 01:03:13.829 --> 01:03:15.510 mean, it's just because all they need to do to 01:03:15.510 --> 01:03:18.789 keep that for him is have a goofy smile on a 01:03:18.789 --> 01:03:23.590 demon's face, and it's still... remains i think 01:03:23.590 --> 01:03:25.949 well even in like um because i'm i'm reading 01:03:25.949 --> 01:03:28.510 seizure what i've read i've read seizure terror 01:03:28.510 --> 01:03:31.130 and there's a part of it which is like there's 01:03:31.130 --> 01:03:34.010 like a subtle thing where like in um first wall 01:03:34.010 --> 01:03:38.400 talk about how like All these new, you know, 01:03:38.400 --> 01:03:40.639 emperor worshipping cults are like worshipping 01:03:40.639 --> 01:03:42.320 this like tree of life thing. They're like, oh, 01:03:42.380 --> 01:03:46.400 life, hope and, you know, a better day and survival 01:03:46.400 --> 01:03:49.119 and all things like that. And then it turns out 01:03:49.119 --> 01:03:50.739 they go a bit too far into it. They're like, 01:03:50.760 --> 01:03:53.380 oh, God, it's a bit. There's something deep in 01:03:53.380 --> 01:03:55.139 that literally in the roots of it. Like there's 01:03:55.139 --> 01:03:56.800 a tree and then they have to dig into the roots. 01:03:56.840 --> 01:04:01.380 So they keep that part of it. But I agree. The 01:04:01.380 --> 01:04:06.239 corn stuff is so meh. like again like once they 01:04:06.239 --> 01:04:10.639 turn into basically berserkers it's kind of over 01:04:10.639 --> 01:04:14.400 i don't know how to make that in i think i mean 01:04:14.400 --> 01:04:16.980 how do you guys think they could make corny like 01:04:16.980 --> 01:04:19.760 post -corny characters interesting i mean they 01:04:19.760 --> 01:04:21.780 tried with i've just done a video on the crimson 01:04:21.780 --> 01:04:23.900 slaughter and they have like a bunch of lore 01:04:23.900 --> 01:04:27.039 about how they basically were they were manipulated 01:04:27.039 --> 01:04:30.900 by sinch to follow corn essentially and they 01:04:30.900 --> 01:04:33.239 they massacred a whole planet's worth of people 01:04:33.239 --> 01:04:35.760 because they were like look look sinch cultists 01:04:35.760 --> 01:04:37.840 look and it's like no they're sanctioned by the 01:04:37.840 --> 01:04:40.559 ecclesiarchy to worship the emperor but they 01:04:40.559 --> 01:04:44.280 wear bird masks i guess okay and like then they're 01:04:44.280 --> 01:04:48.000 technically undivided but they they basically 01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:50.519 have like the butcher's nails without the nails 01:04:50.519 --> 01:04:53.050 where that instead of digging into your brain 01:04:53.050 --> 01:04:54.929 it's oh we hear the screams of all the people 01:04:54.929 --> 01:04:57.570 we murdered all the time unless we're killing 01:04:57.570 --> 01:05:00.190 new people like oh that's kind of fun i say fun 01:05:00.190 --> 01:05:04.010 fun for us to read um and they really tried to 01:05:04.010 --> 01:05:05.889 push the crimson slaughter and they are making 01:05:05.889 --> 01:05:08.889 a resurgence in law they are turning up here 01:05:08.889 --> 01:05:11.090 and there um but they haven't really been seen 01:05:11.090 --> 01:05:14.650 doing much since the 13th black crusade and i 01:05:14.650 --> 01:05:17.250 mean technically everything in the setting is 01:05:17.250 --> 01:05:20.139 contributing to corn because it's it's war There 01:05:20.139 --> 01:05:22.099 is only war. There is only Khorne. Everything 01:05:22.099 --> 01:05:25.460 is contributing to Khorne in some way. So maybe 01:05:25.460 --> 01:05:29.639 lean in to that a bit more. Have self -righteous 01:05:29.639 --> 01:05:32.559 crusades turn into blood baths and that kind 01:05:32.559 --> 01:05:34.760 of stuff and get people accidentally pledging 01:05:34.760 --> 01:05:38.199 to Khorne without knowing. Maybe. I don't know. 01:05:38.239 --> 01:05:39.920 He's a tough... Because the only problem is then 01:05:39.920 --> 01:05:41.679 you get another Angron who's just a mad guy running 01:05:41.679 --> 01:05:44.440 around going... Hitting people over the head. 01:05:45.449 --> 01:05:49.309 a mad scientist cornade would be quite fun because 01:05:49.309 --> 01:05:54.849 look here hear me out right okay corn likes blood 01:05:54.849 --> 01:05:59.869 he likes when it flows I feel that if someone 01:05:59.869 --> 01:06:02.489 was you know like someone like Stephen Hawking 01:06:02.489 --> 01:06:06.869 they're not very physically fit and capable yes 01:06:06.869 --> 01:06:09.789 I'm aware but i didn't know where you go with 01:06:09.789 --> 01:06:14.070 that where is this going they invent some like 01:06:14.070 --> 01:06:17.929 absolutely horrific destructive weapons of war 01:06:17.929 --> 01:06:20.929 corn would be like hey you're not very strong 01:06:20.929 --> 01:06:23.250 physically but by god are you bringing the blood 01:06:23.250 --> 01:06:26.429 can you please do an impression of your stephen 01:06:26.429 --> 01:06:29.809 hawking corn corrupt corn corrupted stephen hawking 01:06:29.809 --> 01:06:32.909 please i don't have it i don't i don't have a 01:06:32.909 --> 01:06:38.940 text -to -speech software i can do this All right, 01:06:39.059 --> 01:06:43.639 Colin, rebounding off that idea. What if we had 01:06:43.639 --> 01:06:48.559 a downtrodden, homunculated Coven member who 01:06:48.559 --> 01:06:50.780 was really weak and he was like, I'm going to 01:06:50.780 --> 01:06:53.519 side with Khorne and I'm going to be a renegade 01:06:53.519 --> 01:06:55.940 within the Drukhari society because I'm going 01:06:55.940 --> 01:06:57.820 to exsanguinate all my enemies. I'm going to 01:06:57.820 --> 01:07:00.960 try to become stronger. And I know all the weird 01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:04.400 stuff that we know about. What about that? because 01:07:04.400 --> 01:07:05.619 that's the only thing like drukhari and stuff 01:07:05.619 --> 01:07:09.760 is like interesting get him out of kimura because 01:07:09.760 --> 01:07:11.320 he can't do it inside kimura and he could be 01:07:11.320 --> 01:07:14.039 like a renegade drukhari homunculi who's pledged 01:07:14.039 --> 01:07:16.059 to corn that could be a fun idea adds a bit of 01:07:16.059 --> 01:07:20.119 novelty bit of variety the problem is like interesting 01:07:20.119 --> 01:07:23.599 corn corruption is basically just the black rage 01:07:23.599 --> 01:07:27.940 like it's you resist it you sometimes could go 01:07:27.940 --> 01:07:30.519 mad or something and then you basically turn 01:07:30.519 --> 01:07:34.159 into a crazy murder hobo. Angel of light, angel 01:07:34.159 --> 01:07:37.320 of darkness. That's the issue. They can't make 01:07:37.320 --> 01:07:39.940 it basically the same as that, but that's the 01:07:39.940 --> 01:07:43.599 interesting version of it. They could do something 01:07:43.599 --> 01:07:47.679 with it. There are some weird ones. I literally 01:07:47.679 --> 01:07:50.179 today released a warband lore piece about the, 01:07:50.179 --> 01:07:53.500 the, the sanctified who are word bearers, defectors 01:07:53.500 --> 01:07:56.280 who only worship corn. And they just try to like 01:07:56.280 --> 01:07:58.340 summon greater demons like and graph. And there's 01:07:58.340 --> 01:08:02.420 even a war band. I think it's possibly the oblivion 01:08:02.420 --> 01:08:04.960 butchers or one of them. They, they just like, 01:08:05.019 --> 01:08:08.079 which, which one? Like. we just want to like 01:08:08.079 --> 01:08:09.880 bring a whole legion of corn into the real space 01:08:09.880 --> 01:08:11.760 why not and they've like only been cited seven 01:08:11.760 --> 01:08:15.619 times it's like ah there's one left if we see 01:08:15.619 --> 01:08:19.539 him again it's gonna be bad but again it's some 01:08:19.539 --> 01:08:22.380 surface level i suppose it's a it's a good uh 01:08:22.380 --> 01:08:24.619 food for thought though thank you very much um 01:08:24.619 --> 01:08:29.100 that was was that when uh that was captain captain 01:08:29.100 --> 01:08:33.020 uh duct tape oh he also said um best character 01:08:33.020 --> 01:08:37.829 was obviously talos and saboteur again night 01:08:37.829 --> 01:08:40.409 lord's trilogy is a fantastic book in a sense 01:08:40.409 --> 01:08:46.090 of uh it truly understands um like it in no way 01:08:46.090 --> 01:08:50.869 like justifies uh the madness of conrad occurs 01:08:50.869 --> 01:08:54.989 but in a way like it explains it and like the 01:08:54.989 --> 01:08:56.989 contra you know the contradiction that it is 01:08:56.989 --> 01:09:00.449 and it does it you know beautifully uh you know 01:09:00.449 --> 01:09:03.850 great trilogy and also like just have some fun 01:09:03.850 --> 01:09:05.850 cool moments in it as well where like you know 01:09:05.850 --> 01:09:08.550 it's actually pretty sad oh the whole thing's 01:09:08.550 --> 01:09:11.109 kind of sad in some way like you almost you almost 01:09:11.109 --> 01:09:13.430 feel sympathetic for the characters and then 01:09:13.430 --> 01:09:16.550 they really show you like oh we're not the heroes 01:09:16.550 --> 01:09:20.369 like we're really yeah adb does a good job there 01:09:20.369 --> 01:09:23.890 being like you like him yeah check this out yeah 01:09:23.890 --> 01:09:28.109 they are the villains like they are the bad guys 01:09:28.109 --> 01:09:32.710 and and they know it You know, they always were. 01:09:33.409 --> 01:09:37.930 Bad boys, bad boys. What you gonna do? What you 01:09:37.930 --> 01:09:42.630 gonna do when they come for you? And the last 01:09:42.630 --> 01:09:45.890 one of this section was by hashtag number one 01:09:45.890 --> 01:09:49.930 Primaris hater. I hate Belisarius Call because 01:09:49.930 --> 01:09:52.729 I hate Primaris Marines. They may be the single 01:09:52.729 --> 01:09:58.960 worst lore addition in recent history. Wow. Total 01:09:58.960 --> 01:10:02.479 Primaris Marine death. Kill Primaris. Backstab 01:10:02.479 --> 01:10:05.479 Primaris. Kick a Primaris into the warp. Slam 01:10:05.479 --> 01:10:10.100 dog a Primaris' gene seed into a trash can. Crucify 01:10:10.100 --> 01:10:13.619 Primaris captains. Defecate in a Primaris's corpse 01:10:13.619 --> 01:10:16.840 starch. Launch Primaris into Komarar. Stir fry 01:10:16.840 --> 01:10:19.939 your Primaris in Nurgle's cauldron. Toss Primaris 01:10:19.939 --> 01:10:23.039 into a Damoculaba. Urinate into a Primaris's 01:10:23.039 --> 01:10:25.920 helmet. Skin a Primaris with a flayed one. Twist 01:10:25.920 --> 01:10:29.680 Primaris's purity seals off. Report Primaris 01:10:29.680 --> 01:10:32.159 to the Harlequins. Maul Primaris with vicious 01:10:32.159 --> 01:10:35.140 high tyrants. Chop Primaris in half. Stomp a 01:10:35.140 --> 01:10:38.960 fat Primaris lieutenant. Trap Primaris in Nurgle's 01:10:38.960 --> 01:10:56.579 cauldron. ... ... ... ... ... Cremate Primaris 01:10:56.579 --> 01:10:59.800 in bloodthirst of breath. Destroy Primaris spirits 01:10:59.800 --> 01:11:02.920 with Catan shards. Mandatory Harlequins kiss 01:11:02.920 --> 01:11:05.539 for Primaris. Catapult Primaris into the Eye 01:11:05.539 --> 01:11:08.239 of Terror. Farm Primaris with a Castellan Knight. 01:11:08.680 --> 01:11:12.000 Drown Primaris in Molten Ceramite. Drag Primaris 01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:14.819 behind your Baneblade. Toss Primaris out of the... 01:11:15.069 --> 01:11:17.670 out of the Golden Palace, vaporize Primaris with 01:11:17.670 --> 01:11:20.069 the Gorse Cannon, kick Primaris chaplains down 01:11:20.069 --> 01:11:23.189 the stairs, feed Primaris to the Carnifex, slice 01:11:23.189 --> 01:11:27.810 Primaris with a shuriken catapult. I don't agree 01:11:27.810 --> 01:11:31.409 with any of that, but I will say, if it's any 01:11:31.409 --> 01:11:33.430 consolation to you, all of those things have 01:11:33.430 --> 01:11:35.350 probably happened at least once in the setting, 01:11:35.470 --> 01:11:40.729 so you've got your way. We listen and we don't, 01:11:40.729 --> 01:11:45.569 Judge. I think some people do. think it is the 01:11:45.569 --> 01:11:47.270 worst thing ever i don't think it's the worst 01:11:47.270 --> 01:11:51.390 thing ever like it's it's all right i like piranhas 01:11:51.390 --> 01:11:54.970 they're there they're not you know i only have 01:11:54.970 --> 01:11:57.510 one complaint about them i just like i prefer 01:11:57.510 --> 01:12:01.390 the old type of helmet of like yeah or the grill 01:12:01.390 --> 01:12:04.489 helmet which i was looking on some recent kits 01:12:04.489 --> 01:12:06.109 like even the space walls and probably black 01:12:06.109 --> 01:12:08.970 templar kit i think gw are like oh people still 01:12:08.970 --> 01:12:11.590 like that so they still have those options so 01:12:11.590 --> 01:12:18.000 you know Never mind. There are a little bit of 01:12:18.000 --> 01:12:20.319 a sign the setting is kind of losing its own 01:12:20.319 --> 01:12:24.500 plot. I will say that. Forget the promise of 01:12:24.500 --> 01:12:27.140 science and technology. By the way, here's a 01:12:27.140 --> 01:12:31.779 whole lot of new science and technology. I think 01:12:31.779 --> 01:12:35.520 it makes sense. It did move things along a little 01:12:35.520 --> 01:12:39.920 bit in terms of... I don't know. Someone out 01:12:39.920 --> 01:12:43.340 there was like, you know what? Let's blow up 01:12:43.340 --> 01:12:46.909 Cadia. and like cut the imperium into like let's 01:12:46.909 --> 01:12:50.770 just do it man and i at least like you know my 01:12:50.770 --> 01:12:52.750 common complaint about warhammer is often like 01:12:52.750 --> 01:12:55.590 it's just like nothing happens in it like the 01:12:55.590 --> 01:12:57.310 amount of like what's the most recent there's 01:12:57.310 --> 01:13:00.369 been a there's been a fourth war like calling 01:13:00.369 --> 01:13:03.449 of armageddon a fourth war of armageddon and 01:13:03.449 --> 01:13:06.710 it's a bit of a nothing burger so i'm kind of 01:13:06.710 --> 01:13:09.069 i'm okay with things not being a nothing burger 01:13:09.069 --> 01:13:11.829 for so long and actually having you know proper 01:13:12.409 --> 01:13:15.529 you know you know again like it no matter what 01:13:15.529 --> 01:13:17.909 they would do not everyone's going to like it 01:13:17.909 --> 01:13:23.470 but you know shout out to the writers who actually 01:13:23.470 --> 01:13:25.329 do have some talent with it because they seem 01:13:25.329 --> 01:13:27.470 to make it somewhat interesting though as in 01:13:27.470 --> 01:13:31.010 you know it's got a thing of and some of the 01:13:31.010 --> 01:13:34.369 dante blood angel books they're like obviously 01:13:34.369 --> 01:13:36.770 some primaris just don't get along because they're 01:13:36.770 --> 01:13:39.300 like The Blood Angels are worried, like, these 01:13:39.300 --> 01:13:42.380 guys are from bloody Mars. They're technically 01:13:42.380 --> 01:13:48.180 from our planet. But they're not of our culture, 01:13:48.260 --> 01:13:49.979 so they're worried their culture will die off. 01:13:51.119 --> 01:13:54.579 Or they don't have the... Gabriel Seth almost 01:13:54.579 --> 01:13:57.180 beats up another Primaris captain, or he does 01:13:57.180 --> 01:13:58.779 beat up one, because he's like, they don't have 01:13:58.779 --> 01:14:02.340 the flaws of Sanguinius. These are like 30k marines, 01:14:02.340 --> 01:14:03.899 almost. They don't really believe the Emperors 01:14:03.899 --> 01:14:06.109 of God or anything like that. And then there's 01:14:06.109 --> 01:14:08.010 one where like Guy Haley straight off wrote a 01:14:08.010 --> 01:14:10.810 book where the black Templar firstborn just end 01:14:10.810 --> 01:14:12.710 up killing their primaris because they're like, 01:14:12.729 --> 01:14:14.829 these are heretical. These are new technology. 01:14:15.090 --> 01:14:17.170 These are not designed by the emperor. These 01:14:17.170 --> 01:14:20.029 are designed by a bloody, you know, tech priest 01:14:20.029 --> 01:14:21.750 of Mars. So they end up killing them because 01:14:21.750 --> 01:14:24.949 they're like, you know, this is heresy. So, you 01:14:24.949 --> 01:14:28.609 know, at least someone did it, but I don't, I 01:14:28.609 --> 01:14:30.550 don't mind. And then some of the models obviously 01:14:30.550 --> 01:14:34.680 are sick, not the lieutenants. Primarily tenant 01:14:34.680 --> 01:14:40.800 could probably stuff it, you know, but I think 01:14:40.800 --> 01:14:42.899 we might have enough time for maybe one more 01:14:42.899 --> 01:14:48.380 round, guys, of like Colin there. I think Colin, 01:14:48.479 --> 01:14:55.000 do you see the one by DS9 2025? Ah, yes. Oh, 01:14:55.060 --> 01:14:59.949 boy. All right. I just thought of a better one 01:14:59.949 --> 01:15:03.630 than this. The Inari. That's a great start. Wow. 01:15:04.210 --> 01:15:07.430 Is it finally time to talk about this great disappointment? 01:15:07.529 --> 01:15:09.409 Because I feel like this is a bridge that needs 01:15:09.409 --> 01:15:11.149 to be crossed by lore crimes that they're avoiding 01:15:11.149 --> 01:15:14.630 crossing. It's either that or I think I declare 01:15:14.630 --> 01:15:17.229 the worst character our Slaanesh demons and the 01:15:17.229 --> 01:15:19.850 ass -pull fool. That wasn't even my final form 01:15:19.850 --> 01:15:22.710 when they got there. Yeah, Inari wins our Inari 01:15:22.710 --> 01:15:28.440 book as a fucking whole soup of diarrhea. Because 01:15:28.440 --> 01:15:31.340 GW gives Chaos a lot of those. But that one, 01:15:31.359 --> 01:15:34.420 that one was just the second worse. Actually, 01:15:34.420 --> 01:15:36.199 Snatch's ass pull went over the Nari. It might 01:15:36.199 --> 01:15:38.239 be worse than the End Times for me. Oh, dear. 01:15:38.819 --> 01:15:41.180 Oh, don't. Because I never cared much about the 01:15:41.180 --> 01:15:43.600 old world beyond Carl Franz's cool. I don't like 01:15:43.600 --> 01:15:46.439 that, but, you know, it is what it is. Sucks 01:15:46.439 --> 01:15:50.600 the actual Austrian Empire's Emperor Carl was 01:15:50.600 --> 01:15:55.779 a joke who abdicated in World War I. Wow. A little 01:15:55.779 --> 01:16:02.659 historical in here. Yeah. Yeah, Yunari bad. I'm 01:16:02.659 --> 01:16:04.760 afraid I do not have much more to offer than 01:16:04.760 --> 01:16:06.779 that because that seems to be the general vibe. 01:16:07.000 --> 01:16:10.699 But yeah, Yunari bad. How would you fix it, do 01:16:10.699 --> 01:16:14.979 you think? I mean, it's hard not to judge the 01:16:14.979 --> 01:16:17.380 Yunari stuff because it's almost like it's a 01:16:17.380 --> 01:16:22.760 bit of a wet bag. I think part... Part one would 01:16:22.760 --> 01:16:26.020 be don't give them four of the five crone swords 01:16:26.020 --> 01:16:27.960 immediately, because then you know they're never 01:16:27.960 --> 01:16:32.539 getting the last one. You got 80 % of your faction's 01:16:32.539 --> 01:16:37.039 motivation done in the first book. Where do we 01:16:37.039 --> 01:16:40.140 go now? Not even that. It was in codexes before 01:16:40.140 --> 01:16:43.420 the book. Your Vrain has a sword. Visark has 01:16:43.420 --> 01:16:47.140 a sword. The Inkan's got a sword. They've already... 01:16:48.030 --> 01:16:51.930 seen um to be fair um there's a whole book valador 01:16:51.930 --> 01:16:55.510 about uh prince uriel getting his sword although 01:16:55.510 --> 01:16:56.770 you don't know it's a crone sword at the time 01:16:56.770 --> 01:16:59.369 it's like he has a whole book that was good fun 01:16:59.369 --> 01:17:01.229 i enjoyed that book that was one of my favorite 01:17:01.229 --> 01:17:03.689 elder books and i read them all in a month and 01:17:03.689 --> 01:17:07.029 i gotta be honest i didn't like hate the inari 01:17:07.029 --> 01:17:10.069 books but i did think they were a bit like oh 01:17:10.069 --> 01:17:12.229 this is it was the araman problem this is all 01:17:12.229 --> 01:17:16.760 inconsequential nothing matters yeah okay Also, 01:17:16.760 --> 01:17:22.399 I guess from there is like, don't make the faction 01:17:22.399 --> 01:17:27.479 jobbers in their own books. Don't have every 01:17:27.479 --> 01:17:31.859 single faction of Eldar come together, barely 01:17:31.859 --> 01:17:35.079 beat a Slaanesh army, and then immediately fight 01:17:35.079 --> 01:17:38.579 each other afterwards. What are you cooking here? 01:17:38.739 --> 01:17:44.020 Because it's not a meal. It's not food. I think 01:17:44.020 --> 01:17:47.380 they... They're not brave enough with them to 01:17:47.380 --> 01:17:52.640 actually make a unique faction out of them. We've 01:17:52.640 --> 01:17:54.500 talked about this, I think I've mentioned it 01:17:54.500 --> 01:17:57.840 at various times, maybe every few years now, 01:17:58.000 --> 01:18:01.020 where it's like, I thought the Inari should actually 01:18:01.020 --> 01:18:05.439 be an undead faction in terms of proper Eldar 01:18:05.439 --> 01:18:08.699 ghosts and stuff. We've talked about that a bit. 01:18:08.920 --> 01:18:12.800 It would be crazy interesting, because obviously 01:18:12.800 --> 01:18:15.359 it's the god of the... It should embody what 01:18:15.359 --> 01:18:16.640 it's meant to be about, which is, like, obviously, 01:18:16.680 --> 01:18:20.159 the god of the dead. And there's barely any dead 01:18:20.159 --> 01:18:21.819 people there. You know, where are my ghosts? 01:18:22.039 --> 01:18:25.859 Where's my Unari ghosts? It's just, like, when 01:18:25.859 --> 01:18:28.300 you do see it, it's just Eldar Soup, the faction. 01:18:29.260 --> 01:18:31.439 Yeah, and the trouble is, as well, like, when 01:18:31.439 --> 01:18:33.439 you think of it, you've obviously got Evrain 01:18:33.439 --> 01:18:36.640 and the Visarka are part of the Unari. Uriel 01:18:36.640 --> 01:18:40.380 is an honorary member. Arianne from Iandan is 01:18:40.380 --> 01:18:44.199 an honorary member. Eldrad is a member. Like, 01:18:44.199 --> 01:18:48.319 all the premier characters. Well, yeah, he calls 01:18:48.319 --> 01:18:53.300 himself the herald of Enead. He's like, this 01:18:53.300 --> 01:18:56.960 is my plan. This is my stuff. But he also just 01:18:56.960 --> 01:19:00.039 kind of fucked off with the latest codex. Yeah, 01:19:00.119 --> 01:19:03.960 and even Lelith Hesperax is now technically part 01:19:03.960 --> 01:19:06.659 of the Inari, because she's one of Ibrahim's 01:19:06.659 --> 01:19:09.899 bodyguards. All the premier characters, other 01:19:09.899 --> 01:19:12.159 than Azdrabail Vect, who has no lore anyway. 01:19:12.960 --> 01:19:16.119 they're all in ari now that you're done but there's 01:19:16.119 --> 01:19:17.920 none left who else are we going to talk about 01:19:17.920 --> 01:19:21.859 oh i don't know guys i do like the idea of it 01:19:21.859 --> 01:19:27.579 being um like with their like overarching story 01:19:27.579 --> 01:19:29.579 like if there's a thing of like if they are like 01:19:29.579 --> 01:19:31.819 if they had like the undead of like the previous 01:19:31.819 --> 01:19:35.079 in like the glory era like elder or something 01:19:35.079 --> 01:19:37.079 there's still a disconnect in which like the 01:19:37.079 --> 01:19:39.939 crawford elder are like now these people aren't 01:19:39.939 --> 01:19:41.760 here you know they're the ones who like you know 01:19:41.760 --> 01:19:43.800 burst the nesh and then the dark elder are like 01:19:43.800 --> 01:19:47.000 i don't do i have to follow these people you 01:19:47.000 --> 01:19:49.640 know i make my own destiny in some way well then 01:19:49.640 --> 01:19:52.460 the drukaria just being like oh wait i don't 01:19:52.460 --> 01:19:54.760 have to worry about the nash anymore sold and 01:19:54.760 --> 01:19:56.260 then the other ones are like i'm still scared 01:19:56.260 --> 01:19:58.979 of vect he's scared yeah i'm not going anywhere 01:19:58.979 --> 01:20:02.920 like there's pluses and you know minuses for 01:20:03.430 --> 01:20:05.649 essentially being part of the inari but also 01:20:05.649 --> 01:20:08.250 like they they need like um like with the crone 01:20:08.250 --> 01:20:09.930 sort of thing like so there's basically kind 01:20:09.930 --> 01:20:13.369 of a dead plot line now they need a thing like 01:20:13.369 --> 01:20:15.649 not like a macguffin but like they need an overall 01:20:15.649 --> 01:20:19.569 like you know gilliman is trying to like hold 01:20:19.569 --> 01:20:21.670 back the tide of chaos in some sense i stabilize 01:20:21.670 --> 01:20:24.069 the imperium he has an objective what are you 01:20:24.069 --> 01:20:27.170 nari doing like like keep the order alive like 01:20:27.170 --> 01:20:30.210 that's too vague almost like they actually have 01:20:30.210 --> 01:20:31.710 to be something where it's like you know okay 01:20:31.710 --> 01:20:34.210 we're actually going to either you know make 01:20:34.210 --> 01:20:37.350 a strike against sanesh resurrect loads of undead 01:20:37.350 --> 01:20:40.229 or like fully birth the god or something where 01:20:40.229 --> 01:20:43.170 you know and then because opportunities were 01:20:43.170 --> 01:20:46.180 like you know there's ancient elder you can actually 01:20:46.180 --> 01:20:49.420 explore you know the ancient elder you know the 01:20:49.420 --> 01:20:52.159 civilization we could go see parts of it before 01:20:52.159 --> 01:20:55.119 it ultimately you know it's just it's such a 01:20:55.119 --> 01:20:58.460 waste isn't it it's uh it's weird because elves 01:20:58.460 --> 01:21:00.420 are so much more interesting in so many other 01:21:00.420 --> 01:21:05.199 um different like ips like elves like the thing 01:21:05.199 --> 01:21:08.439 in other areas whereas in like 40k it's almost 01:21:08.439 --> 01:21:12.300 like an afterthought including the other warhammer 01:21:12.300 --> 01:21:16.279 settings there's so much more i know like warmer 01:21:16.279 --> 01:21:19.659 like fantasy people love high elves wood elves 01:21:19.659 --> 01:21:22.199 dark l you know i mean like they're pretty obviously 01:21:22.199 --> 01:21:23.979 humans will always be the most popular thing 01:21:23.979 --> 01:21:27.960 but um pretty you know what was it you know lord 01:21:27.960 --> 01:21:29.399 of the rings or something like that you know 01:21:29.880 --> 01:21:31.699 people you know we love the elves and that as 01:21:31.699 --> 01:21:34.659 well i just i'm just surprised i don't know i'm 01:21:34.659 --> 01:21:36.680 not i'm not surprised i'm just disappointed that 01:21:36.680 --> 01:21:41.619 they can't find a way to like make it clearly 01:21:41.619 --> 01:21:43.319 the best thing in the setting which has potential 01:21:43.319 --> 01:21:47.899 to be you know very sad uh should you do the 01:21:47.899 --> 01:21:51.039 i should you want donation before we do like 01:21:51.039 --> 01:21:55.579 maybe the last few just obviously So the first 01:21:55.579 --> 01:21:58.100 one from Pancreas' Silliest Clown for five. I 01:21:58.100 --> 01:22:00.159 think Ferris Manus is a great character because 01:22:00.159 --> 01:22:02.239 when you need a bong for the session, he comes 01:22:02.239 --> 01:22:07.520 in clutch. He is the bong. But where are you 01:22:07.520 --> 01:22:13.319 taking the hit from is the question. Shellacti's 01:22:13.319 --> 01:22:15.680 Wettest Gripper. God, that is such a good name. 01:22:16.020 --> 01:22:18.399 Two Canadian can't finish the stream, but I'll 01:22:18.399 --> 01:22:23.470 find Eli to atone. You know, R .I .P. He's not 01:22:23.470 --> 01:22:24.890 dead. That's why I'm saying that for a reason. 01:22:26.590 --> 01:22:33.350 He's fine. He's fine. Calm down. Do you want 01:22:33.350 --> 01:22:36.869 to take this one, Colin? Sure. Blandy8521, thank 01:22:36.869 --> 01:22:41.970 you for the... Pounds. I thought it was pounds. 01:22:42.090 --> 01:22:50.880 It just took a minute. Keonius. You just end 01:22:50.880 --> 01:22:52.920 the sentence there. I'm not sure what that is. 01:22:53.220 --> 01:22:58.340 I think that's their Discord name. Ah, gotcha. 01:22:59.100 --> 01:23:02.300 That makes more sense. Something I forgot to 01:23:02.300 --> 01:23:04.279 include and why I don't like Big E. Big E says 01:23:04.279 --> 01:23:06.220 he's not a god that appears as a golden giant. 01:23:06.800 --> 01:23:12.359 Yeah, when the emperor is not ridden well, he 01:23:12.359 --> 01:23:15.439 reads like... If you've got a Reddit atheist 01:23:15.439 --> 01:23:18.479 to make a character based on the line, God moves 01:23:18.479 --> 01:23:26.199 in mysterious ways. Sometimes the writing is 01:23:26.199 --> 01:23:31.439 not cooking for the emperor. I know. I promise. 01:23:35.399 --> 01:23:37.420 No, I'll let you get through it. You can hear 01:23:37.420 --> 01:23:39.520 me, right? Not if you can hear me. Yes. Can you 01:23:39.520 --> 01:23:41.539 hear me? Yeah, you had a bit of a crackle there. 01:23:41.619 --> 01:23:43.619 Sorry, you got me attacked by something. Well, 01:23:43.640 --> 01:23:45.199 I can't hear you. I'm going to duck out. There 01:23:45.199 --> 01:23:49.220 was a little crackle. Oh, dear. Oh, no. We lost 01:23:49.220 --> 01:23:53.840 the host. Oh, no. Well, I guess I'll riff off. 01:23:54.000 --> 01:23:56.939 Get me on the hatches. I would say I kind of 01:23:56.939 --> 01:24:01.100 disagree because it's not something where it's 01:24:01.100 --> 01:24:03.579 just not randomly put in there for no reason. 01:24:04.100 --> 01:24:08.260 It's generally meant to appear that the Emperor... 01:24:08.720 --> 01:24:11.500 appears as this like master of mankind figure 01:24:11.500 --> 01:24:15.479 because humans essentially can't rally behind 01:24:15.479 --> 01:24:17.619 anything other than something that sees beyond 01:24:17.619 --> 01:24:21.859 themselves uh like there's like a thing of like 01:24:21.859 --> 01:24:24.739 um like a discussion where like technically like 01:24:24.739 --> 01:24:27.659 there's like things like you know would ai be 01:24:27.659 --> 01:24:29.560 like a really good you know it made like a supercomputer 01:24:29.560 --> 01:24:32.680 ai thing and like would you know technically 01:24:32.680 --> 01:24:35.260 it could make like you know in brackets like 01:24:35.260 --> 01:24:37.939 the best decisions ever whatever but then like 01:24:37.939 --> 01:24:39.979 we would never be okay with it because we need 01:24:39.979 --> 01:24:43.840 to see like a human figure in some way being 01:24:43.840 --> 01:24:45.880 in like as flawed as we are like in charge of 01:24:45.880 --> 01:24:48.140 things like the emperor knows like in some way 01:24:48.140 --> 01:24:50.460 like to be the ruler of the galaxy you can't 01:24:50.460 --> 01:24:52.960 just look like an ordinary bloke you've got to 01:24:52.960 --> 01:24:57.159 be this more than more than human you know and 01:24:57.159 --> 01:24:59.600 we are when people like obviously our leaders 01:24:59.600 --> 01:25:01.760 we assign them to be more than human in some 01:25:01.760 --> 01:25:04.699 way like they're their flaws are not as bad their 01:25:04.699 --> 01:25:07.100 their deeds are greater than anything ever before 01:25:07.100 --> 01:25:09.100 people romanticize even you know you meet the 01:25:09.100 --> 01:25:11.340 person once or you know you met a celebrity once 01:25:11.340 --> 01:25:13.680 you talk about that story or something i think 01:25:13.680 --> 01:25:15.939 it's like that interpretation with the emperor 01:25:15.939 --> 01:25:20.079 like he's just meant to be um so just incredible 01:25:20.079 --> 01:25:22.819 like you know he dressed you know this is the 01:25:22.819 --> 01:25:25.000 reason why malkador says like they he convinced 01:25:25.000 --> 01:25:28.000 him to be to call himself the emperor because 01:25:28.000 --> 01:25:31.850 it commands um you know loyalty and all that 01:25:31.850 --> 01:25:36.810 kind of things. I don't know if we can still 01:25:36.810 --> 01:25:38.829 hear you, Andy. I don't know if the audio is 01:25:38.829 --> 01:25:42.229 gone. Yeah, Andy, are you... Say something, sir, 01:25:42.270 --> 01:25:47.449 please. I can hear you on my phone, but not through 01:25:47.449 --> 01:25:54.590 the thing, and I don't want to mess it up. We 01:25:54.590 --> 01:25:57.210 can hear you, though. Yes, Colin, join me with 01:25:57.210 --> 01:26:02.649 the donation from... Bean with a fiver. Typhus 01:26:02.649 --> 01:26:04.909 was ready to condemn his entire legion to an 01:26:04.909 --> 01:26:07.350 eternity of eating Arby's just so he could be 01:26:07.350 --> 01:26:15.909 a beehive or something. Arby's is the original 01:26:15.909 --> 01:26:18.449 sin, so yeah, that is pretty heinous of him. 01:26:21.829 --> 01:26:24.170 There's still quite a few to go through here, 01:26:24.289 --> 01:26:27.750 but I think we might just do one or two last 01:26:27.750 --> 01:26:31.289 ones. We are aware of, like, we might be here 01:26:31.289 --> 01:26:33.750 all day, people. We appreciate everyone's responses, 01:26:33.829 --> 01:26:36.550 like, because obviously people put a lot in, 01:26:36.689 --> 01:26:39.010 and that was, again, like, thank you guys so 01:26:39.010 --> 01:26:41.869 much for putting in the responses, though. Someone 01:26:41.869 --> 01:26:43.869 actually did say Typhus was one of their favorite 01:26:43.869 --> 01:26:46.649 characters, and I also think it was like they 01:26:46.649 --> 01:26:50.829 hated Lucius as well. That man deserves the hate, 01:26:50.890 --> 01:26:54.569 though. Fair. He is pretty awful. Do you want 01:26:54.569 --> 01:26:57.649 to do the one by Dr. Spinosaur, Colin? Did you 01:26:57.649 --> 01:27:03.840 see that one? Yeah, I could take that one. There 01:27:03.840 --> 01:27:09.779 it is, yeah. Do we have another donation there, 01:27:09.819 --> 01:27:14.180 Andy? Was that by... Oh, God, we're behind on 01:27:14.180 --> 01:27:18.779 donors. Sorry, brothers. Technicality. I forgot 01:27:18.779 --> 01:27:21.800 we were still doing donations. Oh, we can hear 01:27:21.800 --> 01:27:25.920 you, Andy. Okay, it does work. Colin, do you 01:27:25.920 --> 01:27:33.569 want to play this one? Yeah. Nova Box with the 01:27:33.569 --> 01:27:36.810 fiver. Worst character, Colin's mother for having 01:27:36.810 --> 01:27:39.590 the audacity to create and nourish Colin. That's 01:27:39.590 --> 01:27:44.010 what it would mean to my mother. Best character, 01:27:44.189 --> 01:27:47.090 Colin's long lost brother, Kalino, who's from 01:27:47.090 --> 01:27:56.170 India. Okay. Damn. That law drop is crazy. Jesus. 01:27:57.029 --> 01:28:04.590 Sick. Nuts. 499. Jesus. Last dream felt like 01:28:04.590 --> 01:28:09.810 a weird fever dream. Anywho. Feet tier list when, 01:28:09.949 --> 01:28:12.210 guys? We already did the feet tier list. We literally 01:28:12.210 --> 01:28:14.649 have done it now. It's over. Go back and look 01:28:14.649 --> 01:28:18.270 at it. You can find it quite easily. It's actually 01:28:18.270 --> 01:28:22.470 done. We heard enough people commenting it and 01:28:22.470 --> 01:28:26.979 we did it for some reason. It was my fault. I 01:28:26.979 --> 01:28:29.819 don't know what you want. It's right there. My 01:28:29.819 --> 01:28:32.800 brother in Christ, Donkey Man USA for five bucks. 01:28:33.159 --> 01:28:35.840 The unhinged Hal supercut that Mike and I are 01:28:35.840 --> 01:28:38.319 working on is already 20 minutes long. Beware, 01:28:38.319 --> 01:28:43.460 Hal. Damn. I mean, maybe we'll upload it. I guess 01:28:43.460 --> 01:28:45.779 we have that to look forward to. Maybe we'll 01:28:45.779 --> 01:28:53.979 upload it or something. Still on corner? Set. 01:28:54.559 --> 01:28:57.180 Corn Carl Sagan. Yeah, see, you got what I was 01:28:57.180 --> 01:28:59.920 going for with the science thing. Corn Carl Sagan. 01:29:02.520 --> 01:29:11.260 Nice, nice. He knows. Bagel Luminati. Five bucks. 01:29:11.819 --> 01:29:14.880 Colin's idea implies that Vashtor is a Cornate 01:29:14.880 --> 01:29:21.079 champion. No, it does not. He's kind of his own 01:29:21.079 --> 01:29:23.810 thing, isn't he, though? God, that is a story 01:29:23.810 --> 01:29:27.210 I need to hurry up. Yeah, something needs to 01:29:27.210 --> 01:29:30.210 happen with her. Parker Sumlin, though, for $4 01:29:30.210 --> 01:29:33.989 .99. Fulgrim versus Sanguinius beauty contest 01:29:33.989 --> 01:29:39.109 when? I think it's implied like basically Sanguinius 01:29:39.109 --> 01:29:42.270 is like Fulgrim tries really hard, but Sanguinius 01:29:42.270 --> 01:29:45.989 is prettier. As in like, you know, he's like, 01:29:46.090 --> 01:29:47.989 oh my God, Sanguinius, whereas Fulgrim is like, 01:29:48.050 --> 01:29:52.850 you know, he's trying too hard. Yeah. Too much 01:29:52.850 --> 01:29:56.310 effort. Bunny Cop with the two. New favorite 01:29:56.310 --> 01:29:58.930 character. Call for the rage she causes. That's 01:29:58.930 --> 01:30:03.930 funny. Is anyone's favorite character Bellatoro's 01:30:03.930 --> 01:30:08.729 call? Rayleigh for two bucks. R .I .P. Yanari. 01:30:09.210 --> 01:30:14.189 Neat concept, but gets butchered. For real. Shout 01:30:14.189 --> 01:30:17.510 out to Boingob for the legs there. and kayla 01:30:17.510 --> 01:30:20.390 collins for the two bucks uh when's the when's 01:30:20.390 --> 01:30:24.409 the vtuber tier list uh in a question mark uh 01:30:24.409 --> 01:30:34.609 tenma schizo tier well uh we'll do that because 01:30:34.609 --> 01:30:38.350 it's appropriate then god i'm really so useless 01:30:38.350 --> 01:30:42.510 on that one though uh anything else anymore uh 01:30:42.510 --> 01:30:45.989 what was the it was by the last Proper one, is 01:30:45.989 --> 01:30:47.810 it, by Dr. Spinosaur Colin? Do you see that one? 01:30:48.550 --> 01:30:52.050 Yeah. We ready to go for them now? Yeah, let's 01:30:52.050 --> 01:30:56.109 do it. No judgment, please. Worst character, 01:30:56.250 --> 01:30:58.069 on the other hand, and I'm sorry to say it, but 01:30:58.069 --> 01:31:00.550 it's basically every Primark character in 40k, 01:31:00.649 --> 01:31:03.489 specifically. It's been said before, but the 01:31:03.489 --> 01:31:05.609 Primarks are basically voids of plot that suck 01:31:05.609 --> 01:31:07.710 up any story points about Space Spring characters 01:31:07.710 --> 01:31:10.710 and overshadow them constantly. My wife is currently 01:31:10.710 --> 01:31:12.569 reading the new Fulgrim book, and she's asking 01:31:12.569 --> 01:31:14.689 me questions on the main Epirus Children character. 01:31:15.010 --> 01:31:16.850 I'm the Lord Buff. Cheers to you, Lord Grimes. 01:31:16.869 --> 01:31:19.590 Cheers. She's not through it yet, but I have 01:31:19.590 --> 01:31:22.090 a suspicion this Tamaris character and all the 01:31:22.090 --> 01:31:24.109 others are only there to set up how glorious 01:31:24.109 --> 01:31:26.609 and beautiful Snake Boy is, and is going to die 01:31:26.609 --> 01:31:30.050 by the end of the book. I get it. GW makes and 01:31:30.050 --> 01:31:32.909 sell big models for money. That's why we get 01:31:32.909 --> 01:31:34.850 them. But we got the Primark stories already 01:31:34.850 --> 01:31:37.090 in the Horus Heresy. We know who they are and 01:31:37.090 --> 01:31:40.029 what they're about. In the Demon Primarch's cases, 01:31:40.170 --> 01:31:42.010 they barely even have a personality now beyond 01:31:42.010 --> 01:31:44.029 their appointed god, which I have my own gripe 01:31:44.029 --> 01:31:47.390 about. But if GW wants to promote your ability 01:31:47.390 --> 01:31:49.350 to create your own stories with your models, 01:31:49.529 --> 01:31:51.409 they should use more stories with less prevalent 01:31:51.409 --> 01:31:54.029 chapters of marines, like my boys the Iron Snakes. 01:31:54.770 --> 01:31:57.069 Give us more books without the use of overpowered 01:31:57.069 --> 01:31:58.949 demigods the likes of which can never be achieved 01:31:58.949 --> 01:32:01.979 by any other. Sprinkle in a diverse roster of 01:32:01.979 --> 01:32:03.880 archetypes and characters, and maybe even have 01:32:03.880 --> 01:32:05.600 them stick around so we get to know them before 01:32:05.600 --> 01:32:07.640 Angron comes screaming from a warp portal to 01:32:07.640 --> 01:32:09.739 mash them into paste. That way their death has 01:32:09.739 --> 01:32:13.340 more meaning to us. But basically, Primarchs 01:32:13.340 --> 01:32:15.699 are endpoints of character and story in 40k, 01:32:15.760 --> 01:32:20.180 not a full story in their own right. On most 01:32:20.180 --> 01:32:22.100 of this, at least I personally am going to pretty 01:32:22.100 --> 01:32:25.939 hard agree with you. Please keep 30k in 30k. 01:32:28.109 --> 01:32:30.210 yeah i'm finding this one tough i've had this 01:32:30.210 --> 01:32:34.890 one tough because gilliman in 40k is like the 01:32:34.890 --> 01:32:37.949 exception though like his stuff is interesting 01:32:37.949 --> 01:32:42.649 i almost don't think the lion really had to return 01:32:42.649 --> 01:32:44.289 in any way like it didn't it would have been 01:32:44.289 --> 01:32:47.750 fine without him but specifically like because 01:32:47.750 --> 01:32:50.170 when gilliman like basically wakes up and he's 01:32:50.170 --> 01:32:54.409 like what you know like it's a it's a 30k reaction 01:32:54.409 --> 01:32:58.560 to 40k And then it actually is interesting. Obviously, 01:32:58.800 --> 01:33:00.500 he is going through a lot of character development 01:33:00.500 --> 01:33:03.640 in terms of, like, he basically has PTSD from 01:33:03.640 --> 01:33:08.260 the fact of, like, my dream was murdered and 01:33:08.260 --> 01:33:12.340 I have to try and save it. And I can't rest, 01:33:12.659 --> 01:33:19.300 you know, my poor dude. I think... It's, I mean... 01:33:19.300 --> 01:33:24.369 Go ahead, go ahead. I mean, even him coming back, 01:33:24.430 --> 01:33:27.029 sometimes I look at, I like Gilman a lot, favorite 01:33:27.029 --> 01:33:30.710 Primarch, but even some of the stuff, like, he 01:33:30.710 --> 01:33:33.390 opened the floodgates, and I really wish he didn't. 01:33:34.409 --> 01:33:36.850 That's not his fault, though, obviously. It's 01:33:36.850 --> 01:33:39.609 not his fault, but he was the first, and I mean, 01:33:39.649 --> 01:33:42.069 honestly, I don't think even the traitor Primarchs 01:33:42.069 --> 01:33:46.149 need to be around. Probably not. I mean, like, 01:33:46.149 --> 01:33:49.069 they are just, I mean, I always thought, like, 01:33:49.069 --> 01:33:51.250 maybe in some way, when they became traitor Primarchs, 01:33:51.250 --> 01:33:53.729 they, like, died. As in, like, they actually 01:33:53.729 --> 01:33:58.770 died. They kind of, I'm trying to think, for 01:33:58.770 --> 01:34:00.789 lack of a better way, like, fall more into the 01:34:00.789 --> 01:34:02.609 warp, like they lose touch with the material 01:34:02.609 --> 01:34:08.050 world. In most ways, they're just as functionally 01:34:08.050 --> 01:34:13.630 dead as the loyalist Primarchs. Yeah, like, maybe 01:34:13.630 --> 01:34:15.510 they couldn't even talk at that point. I don't 01:34:15.510 --> 01:34:18.229 need them to talk, you know what I mean? I'm 01:34:18.229 --> 01:34:20.649 aware of, like, it's just a husk of a thing. 01:34:21.369 --> 01:34:24.010 i'd always prefer like that yeah so saying because 01:34:24.010 --> 01:34:27.649 again like gilliman in the dark imperium uh trilogy 01:34:27.649 --> 01:34:30.890 stuff is quite good in that like he's generally 01:34:30.890 --> 01:34:33.029 like going through quite a lot and then it's 01:34:33.029 --> 01:34:37.010 a whole him to come you know he's trying to find 01:34:37.010 --> 01:34:39.310 a way to come to terms like is the faith the 01:34:39.310 --> 01:34:42.909 emperor real or not like is the the whole book 01:34:42.909 --> 01:34:45.649 is answering the asking the question is the emperor 01:34:45.649 --> 01:34:48.369 a god in some sense and obviously gilliman can't 01:34:48.369 --> 01:34:50.630 really accept it but then he's like the miracles 01:34:50.630 --> 01:34:54.529 seem to work and it's like that's weird um yeah 01:34:54.529 --> 01:34:58.590 so i think it's uh again like i i kind of am 01:34:58.590 --> 01:35:02.010 with it though 40k primark stuff is often like 01:35:02.010 --> 01:35:06.130 oh god not another like demon rust does not need 01:35:06.130 --> 01:35:08.840 to return at this point like if they and they 01:35:08.840 --> 01:35:11.680 do another loyalist primark after this like the 01:35:11.680 --> 01:35:15.020 next edition i'm like i'll give it a break uh 01:35:15.020 --> 01:35:18.380 but yeah i'm kind of with it uh and i think as 01:35:18.380 --> 01:35:21.939 for the maybe the last one we'll do um it was 01:35:21.939 --> 01:35:25.039 by uh it's a very appropriate name it was by 01:35:25.039 --> 01:35:28.619 uber trolls who said thankful he's painfully 01:35:28.619 --> 01:35:32.840 unfunny and a complete waste of pay of page space 01:35:32.840 --> 01:35:36.479 at worst Yeah, I think I want to kill you with 01:35:36.479 --> 01:35:43.779 hammers. This is particularly spicy. But we listen. 01:35:44.100 --> 01:35:48.939 No, judgment not. No, no. Nothing but judgment. 01:35:49.220 --> 01:35:52.979 No, no. No, you are not valid. You are invalid. 01:35:53.300 --> 01:35:56.119 You are not cooking. Get out of the kitchen. 01:35:56.220 --> 01:35:59.199 Put down the cutlery. I'm going to have to ask 01:35:59.199 --> 01:36:03.319 you to please leave the forge. Wow. I guess we 01:36:03.319 --> 01:36:06.020 really failed at that then. Uh, the only, uh, 01:36:06.100 --> 01:36:09.180 finishing, uh, donors again, sorry for the, uh, 01:36:09.180 --> 01:36:12.340 Paul, the technicalities in this one, unfortunately 01:36:12.340 --> 01:36:15.500 was, uh, Mr. Stream yards is never all. It's 01:36:15.500 --> 01:36:16.920 not as bad as when we used to have Riverside. 01:36:17.020 --> 01:36:21.180 If anyone remembers the days, but, um, Oh, we 01:36:21.180 --> 01:36:24.659 have a beast from Sweden. Uh, obviously actually 01:36:24.659 --> 01:36:27.600 a big fan of our, uh, Godric and Felix, uh, episodes. 01:36:27.720 --> 01:36:31.199 This guy, good, uh, good, uh, member, uh, Vulcan 01:36:31.199 --> 01:36:35.680 lift, stomp, stomp. I like that. He often helps 01:36:35.680 --> 01:36:38.460 us fill out spots when we do Got Trick and Felix 01:36:38.460 --> 01:36:41.460 episodes. Appreciate you. He has filled in some 01:36:41.460 --> 01:36:44.939 spots I missed, which is very much appreciated. 01:36:45.520 --> 01:36:49.859 Oh, he's here. He's back, Colin. Medicare insulin. 01:36:50.380 --> 01:36:53.779 Hell yeah. Yo, can we do an on -stream sugar 01:36:53.779 --> 01:36:57.000 check? You know what? Give me a minute. I'm afraid 01:36:57.000 --> 01:36:59.119 I've got a Dexcom, so it's not terribly interesting 01:36:59.119 --> 01:37:03.989 to look at, but I am 114. Quite the nice blood 01:37:03.989 --> 01:37:08.050 sugar. What's the perfect range again? Is it 01:37:08.050 --> 01:37:14.630 between... 80 to 120 is usually ideal. I don't 01:37:14.630 --> 01:37:16.590 remember. The numbers are different in the UK. 01:37:16.649 --> 01:37:22.390 I don't remember. For our numbers, it's 80 to 01:37:22.390 --> 01:37:28.460 120. At 114, I'm doing perfect. nice uh again 01:37:28.460 --> 01:37:31.960 thank you everyone who um helps especially uh 01:37:31.960 --> 01:37:33.819 people in the discord obviously please do join 01:37:33.819 --> 01:37:36.340 the discord if you uh wish to have your comments 01:37:36.340 --> 01:37:39.140 and all your stuff um featured on the next episode 01:37:39.140 --> 01:37:42.060 obviously a massive help guys i know as i did 01:37:42.060 --> 01:37:45.619 it pretty late recently i hadn't decided on um 01:37:45.619 --> 01:37:48.239 episode stuff but everyone really represented 01:37:48.239 --> 01:37:52.579 i will say uh on the no judgment ones we did 01:37:52.579 --> 01:37:56.449 see a lot of them there was a lot of um treys 01:37:56.449 --> 01:37:59.250 in the infinite uh repeats there and obviously 01:37:59.250 --> 01:38:03.470 you know fantastic character uh you know always 01:38:03.470 --> 01:38:05.729 always a pleasure to see treys and lots of thank 01:38:05.729 --> 01:38:08.789 wars lots of gosh tracks and felixes so we all 01:38:08.789 --> 01:38:11.470 we know we saw you guys we appreciate you uh 01:38:11.470 --> 01:38:15.109 you know absolutely valid opinion oh uh colin 01:38:15.109 --> 01:38:22.140 do you see that one oh oh no piece from Sweden 01:38:22.140 --> 01:38:24.439 thank you for the 50s CK was so angry I missed 01:38:24.439 --> 01:38:26.800 the third episode of Godric and Felix was at 01:38:26.800 --> 01:38:31.640 work well I'm glad for the support please don't 01:38:31.640 --> 01:38:35.260 lose your job yeah because you want to support 01:38:35.260 --> 01:38:39.439 the funny remember guys employment is sexy okay 01:38:39.439 --> 01:38:44.439 keep keep being employed please uh I guess uh 01:38:45.100 --> 01:38:47.020 Again, for people listening, poor Andy, I think 01:38:47.020 --> 01:38:49.539 maybe has some slight audio issues. Maybe does 01:38:49.539 --> 01:38:53.079 it work, Andy? Just try saying something. We 01:38:53.079 --> 01:38:58.500 could hear you. I think it's on mute, Andy. Andy, 01:38:58.520 --> 01:39:01.939 where is it? I can hear you on the mobile phone, 01:39:02.039 --> 01:39:06.159 but it is a few seconds before, so I hear you 01:39:06.159 --> 01:39:10.859 on a delay. So I propose to end the episode. 01:39:11.470 --> 01:39:14.829 you guys say goodbye and wave awkwardly and when 01:39:14.829 --> 01:39:17.569 i see it i'll then end the stream i think that's 01:39:17.569 --> 01:39:21.409 probably the best way to do it fair enough all 01:39:21.409 --> 01:39:23.590 right guys thank you guys for listening for watching 01:39:23.590 --> 01:39:27.210 again merchandise uh discord all that good stuff 01:39:27.210 --> 01:39:30.390 we got um regular episode uh next week and we'll 01:39:30.390 --> 01:39:34.050 go see you all then peace much love bye have 01:39:34.050 --> 01:39:35.829 a good one fellas see you in a week