WEBVTT 00:00:12.669 --> 00:00:14.589 Hello, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, 00:00:14.730 --> 00:00:19.809 it's Law Crimes. Hello. Hey. Hello. Welcome, 00:00:20.129 --> 00:00:23.230 welcome. It's actually, I think, it's been a 00:00:23.230 --> 00:00:25.129 little while since all four of us have been on. 00:00:25.329 --> 00:00:28.670 Yeah, it's been a little while. So, but luckily, 00:00:28.870 --> 00:00:31.730 you know, strap in and get ready to be comfortable 00:00:31.730 --> 00:00:33.869 with the boys because we're talking, I mean, 00:00:33.890 --> 00:00:35.750 we're straight in there. Today is Emperor's Children. 00:00:35.929 --> 00:00:39.329 Strap in and strap on. Strap in and strap on. 00:00:40.130 --> 00:00:44.090 This is, if anyone is... kind of new or anything 00:00:44.090 --> 00:00:46.429 like that you know new to warhammer lore in general 00:00:46.429 --> 00:00:50.329 this way you're gonna get a lot of you know there's 00:00:50.329 --> 00:00:52.869 gonna be a lot of law in coming for a particular 00:00:52.869 --> 00:00:54.770 faction that as a time recording it's having 00:00:54.770 --> 00:00:57.289 a huge well it's a huge but it's having a release 00:00:57.289 --> 00:00:59.390 wave there's lots of cool models and like good 00:00:59.390 --> 00:01:03.630 stuff given that they didn't really have any 00:01:03.630 --> 00:01:07.890 many models for The past while. I've only been 00:01:07.890 --> 00:01:12.730 waiting for 15 years, so you know. Totally. Better 00:01:12.730 --> 00:01:16.129 late than never. The Ember Children are a very 00:01:16.129 --> 00:01:22.069 fascinating faction. A chaos space marine. Twisted, 00:01:22.069 --> 00:01:27.849 evil, maniacal, disgusting, and utterly beautiful 00:01:27.849 --> 00:01:31.799 at the same time. They will be... and we're going 00:01:31.799 --> 00:01:33.540 to follow the whole journey here if anyone this 00:01:33.540 --> 00:01:35.379 is not like a full -on like what we did before 00:01:35.379 --> 00:01:37.700 the great crusade episode check out that massive 00:01:37.700 --> 00:01:39.920 compilation that we did on that they don't want 00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:43.620 to really sink in some painting uh time but uh 00:01:43.620 --> 00:01:46.540 eli is going to be helming a huge amount of good 00:01:46.540 --> 00:01:49.120 empress children law there's a lot to cover and 00:01:49.120 --> 00:01:51.000 we will be talking about even all the way up 00:01:51.000 --> 00:01:52.560 to like kind of the modern stuff that's been 00:01:52.560 --> 00:01:54.739 happening you know right on the you know as slow 00:01:54.739 --> 00:01:56.840 as warhammer law moves this is the cutting edge 00:01:56.840 --> 00:01:59.480 of The hell is basically just saying, we're going 00:01:59.480 --> 00:02:02.319 to edge you until the climax of their lore. How 00:02:02.319 --> 00:02:08.419 fitting. Crazy. Can I say something unrelated 00:02:08.419 --> 00:02:11.800 before we start? It is still lore crimes related. 00:02:12.379 --> 00:02:15.280 I was watching a video and then our little intro 00:02:15.280 --> 00:02:17.500 theme, like that song, they use that song in 00:02:17.500 --> 00:02:20.060 the video. And I think my heart jumped out of 00:02:20.060 --> 00:02:25.979 my chest. I was like, we're recording? PTSD moment. 00:02:26.099 --> 00:02:30.639 Wow. As I was told now. Post -traumatic scream 00:02:30.639 --> 00:02:34.199 disorder. Wow. We have to mention though, Eli 00:02:34.199 --> 00:02:38.020 will do this in the voice of Werner Herzog. Crazy. 00:02:38.020 --> 00:02:40.099 I don't know who that is, but I know it's crazy 00:02:40.099 --> 00:02:43.810 already. I would like to tell you about the ways 00:02:43.810 --> 00:02:46.750 that the emperor children are always being mean 00:02:46.750 --> 00:02:51.250 and sexual towards their victims. Going off into 00:02:51.250 --> 00:02:55.330 the mountains, it's about to die. Very small 00:02:55.330 --> 00:02:57.930 impression. Is he German or Austrian or something? 00:02:58.330 --> 00:03:04.030 Where are we in the room? Very German. European. 00:03:04.990 --> 00:03:09.120 I would like to see the baby. Shall we? Shall 00:03:09.120 --> 00:03:11.819 we read our pre -stream donations before we get 00:03:11.819 --> 00:03:14.460 into it? Yes, but before we do that, I just noticed 00:03:14.460 --> 00:03:18.479 dog on bed, so dog. Two dogs on bed. Could you 00:03:18.479 --> 00:03:21.479 describe the dog collar as well? Yes, one of 00:03:21.479 --> 00:03:24.639 them is a black lab mixed with something else. 00:03:24.659 --> 00:03:28.460 We don't really know. We're assuming pit. Not 00:03:28.460 --> 00:03:30.539 a lot of pit. More lab than pit. But, you know, 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:33.639 there's the snout. She's currently twitching 00:03:33.639 --> 00:03:36.039 in her sleep, so I'm hoping it's a good dream. 00:03:38.199 --> 00:03:40.759 and uh and then we have an american corgi which 00:03:40.759 --> 00:03:43.259 is whatever the two kinds of corgis exist in 00:03:43.259 --> 00:03:46.360 england have a baby which was apparently basically 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:49.479 what if you got an english corgi and a bald eagle 00:03:49.479 --> 00:03:52.080 and i think you're like they come with the bald 00:03:52.080 --> 00:03:55.099 eagle as well and he's uh he's presently instead 00:03:55.099 --> 00:03:58.000 of chewing on my bone or on the my bone the bone 00:03:58.000 --> 00:04:05.430 wow He was chewing on my blanket for a moment, 00:04:05.509 --> 00:04:07.629 which, you know, I need that, so please don't. 00:04:09.509 --> 00:04:15.969 He's such a fat, stupid moron. That's kind of 00:04:15.969 --> 00:04:18.829 dope. So it's two British dogs all together and 00:04:18.829 --> 00:04:21.490 he makes an American dog? Two wrongs make a right? 00:04:22.910 --> 00:04:25.509 Yeah. Depends how much tea you chuck in the harbor. 00:04:26.790 --> 00:04:29.620 Hoorah! Would you like to read the first donation, 00:04:29.939 --> 00:04:33.079 Hal? It's involving you. DonkeyManUSA, five bucks. 00:04:33.339 --> 00:04:36.360 Once again, every episode. Stream late due to 00:04:36.360 --> 00:04:40.699 Hal going to Fabius's spider backpack. Fabius 00:04:40.699 --> 00:04:43.339 Naruto. That lays eggs. Thank you, DonkeyMan. 00:04:43.459 --> 00:04:48.379 It lays eggs. Yeah. It does. It does. Oh, I thought 00:04:48.379 --> 00:04:52.339 you said Fabius lays eggs. Like, no. Incorrect. 00:04:52.339 --> 00:04:56.079 His backpack. His backpack. No, that's... Yeah. 00:04:56.970 --> 00:04:59.250 I thought you meant him. Yeah, like everyone's 00:04:59.250 --> 00:05:04.949 backpack. Louise, 1945. Fabulous egg. Thank you 00:05:04.949 --> 00:05:08.670 for the $2. Orc brain, say, send this. So I did. 00:05:08.790 --> 00:05:10.689 Well, thank you to your Orc brain for the $2. 00:05:10.769 --> 00:05:15.189 Thank you. Tom Warren, Orcs hunt space whales. 00:05:15.310 --> 00:05:22.889 They call it fishy. Do they? Bloody shirt music. 00:05:23.029 --> 00:05:25.410 Bloody shirt music. Yeah, two bucks. Two bucks. 00:05:25.509 --> 00:05:27.629 Love you guys forever. Thank you. Love you too, 00:05:27.769 --> 00:05:29.410 man. Love you too. We love you too. We appreciate 00:05:29.410 --> 00:05:31.370 it. Bless you. Love you. We should mention as 00:05:31.370 --> 00:05:33.490 well, very early on, if anyone is listening and 00:05:33.490 --> 00:05:35.589 hasn't heard yet, there is a Discord. Links will 00:05:35.589 --> 00:05:37.750 be down there. It's popping off. People are making 00:05:37.750 --> 00:05:40.589 fun of our foreheads. Almost 600 members. Hairlines. 00:05:40.769 --> 00:05:43.170 I have not been, I've been insulted every day. 00:05:47.789 --> 00:05:51.050 You're not special on that front. There's a new 00:05:51.050 --> 00:05:55.149 meme. Someone made of the god from Cthulhu, the 00:05:55.149 --> 00:05:56.790 Yellow King, I think it is, and it's your face 00:05:56.790 --> 00:06:03.029 on it. It looks really funny. Tentacles. Colin, 00:06:03.110 --> 00:06:06.389 do you want to hit us on? Sure, yeah. I was just 00:06:06.389 --> 00:06:08.970 looking at the clip DJ Beast has already sent, 00:06:09.129 --> 00:06:11.589 and it's titled Colin talking about himself, 00:06:11.810 --> 00:06:14.509 and it's me saying he's a fat, stupid moron, 00:06:14.589 --> 00:06:21.350 so that's nice. Thank you for that. Douglas El 00:06:21.350 --> 00:06:25.790 Bosso. Thank you for the 10 euros. I got it. 00:06:25.790 --> 00:06:30.509 I had it. Theoretical. The emperor is chaos's 00:06:30.509 --> 00:06:32.889 greatest champion. Practical. Created trail blood 00:06:32.889 --> 00:06:36.810 on an excessive scale. Sowing a rotting bureaucracy 00:06:36.810 --> 00:06:39.230 and building it with deceit. Sincerely, a word 00:06:39.230 --> 00:06:42.290 bearer fan. But are you wrong? You're so real 00:06:42.290 --> 00:06:46.879 for that? No, you're not. Wrong. incorrect incorrect 00:06:46.879 --> 00:06:52.759 bad don't count yeah they're not here right now 00:06:52.759 --> 00:06:56.839 baby 10 74 thank you for the five dollars what 00:06:56.839 --> 00:06:59.259 does eli look like he's four foot tall also happy 00:06:59.259 --> 00:07:03.139 birthday colin happy birthday and i am four feet 00:07:03.139 --> 00:07:06.829 tall that's why thank you It's pretty much the 00:07:06.829 --> 00:07:09.430 same thing. It was three months ago, but I appreciate 00:07:09.430 --> 00:07:13.410 it. Also, Groynath became a member. Thank you 00:07:13.410 --> 00:07:15.209 very much, Groynath. Thank you very much, brother. 00:07:15.310 --> 00:07:18.449 Thank you, Groyn, man. And Angry Homunculus for 00:07:18.449 --> 00:07:21.370 two pounds. Stream late due to Skaven Titan bombing. 00:07:22.189 --> 00:07:27.649 Goodness. All right, I'm the Skaven. Emperor's 00:07:27.649 --> 00:07:31.000 Children of Lore will begin. the beninging as 00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:39.139 they say quite quite oh my gosh uh yeah i will 00:07:39.139 --> 00:07:42.319 i'll start it off i'll start it off uh i was 00:07:42.319 --> 00:07:46.360 gonna start with uh things before fulgrim they 00:07:46.360 --> 00:07:48.379 kind of happened and at the same time so i don't 00:07:48.379 --> 00:07:51.720 think it really matters but basically the legion's 00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:54.490 origins uh around you know the same as everyone 00:07:54.490 --> 00:07:56.750 else around the unification wars and they were 00:07:56.750 --> 00:08:00.850 mainly drawn from the noble blood of europa so 00:08:00.850 --> 00:08:03.189 it's a lot of noble children aristocratic blood 00:08:03.189 --> 00:08:06.449 going into the legion so they're all very uptight 00:08:06.449 --> 00:08:09.509 babies yeah but they're actually but they can 00:08:09.509 --> 00:08:12.629 back it up thankfully but they're all very again 00:08:12.629 --> 00:08:16.850 aristocratic noble high up there and it kind 00:08:16.850 --> 00:08:19.230 of gives them a reputation and it makes them 00:08:19.230 --> 00:08:21.350 very good with working with other people so they 00:08:21.350 --> 00:08:24.540 actually Unlike the other legions who work as 00:08:24.540 --> 00:08:26.480 a big force generally, other than the Alpha Legion, 00:08:26.620 --> 00:08:30.660 they are mainly operating alongside the Imperial 00:08:30.660 --> 00:08:33.639 Army in small groups, kind of leading the mortals. 00:08:33.740 --> 00:08:36.480 And during this time, the mortals actually come 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:38.860 to love the Emperor's children, like salamander's 00:08:38.860 --> 00:08:41.860 tear, good at working with other people, kind, 00:08:42.080 --> 00:08:45.320 noble, heroic. They're generally seen as heroes. 00:08:47.019 --> 00:08:49.139 Also kind of gives into their name, the Emperor's 00:08:49.139 --> 00:08:52.970 children, because of this nobility aspect. And 00:08:52.970 --> 00:08:56.230 while that's all happening, Fulgrim, baby, little 00:08:56.230 --> 00:08:59.149 baby Fulgrim, little baby boy, beautiful angel, 00:08:59.389 --> 00:09:03.509 perfect little boy lands on Chemos. Chemos. I 00:09:03.509 --> 00:09:05.970 don't know what the right way to say it is. And 00:09:05.970 --> 00:09:09.929 Chemos. Chemos, but who knows? I think Chemos 00:09:09.929 --> 00:09:15.350 sounds cool. And on Chemos, it's the most beautiful, 00:09:15.490 --> 00:09:18.870 angelic, perfect being they've ever seen. Prettier 00:09:18.870 --> 00:09:22.110 than Sanguinius. I'll die on that hill. They 00:09:22.110 --> 00:09:24.870 were born on a mining world, it's not like they've 00:09:24.870 --> 00:09:28.389 seen much beauty. They actually said that in 00:09:28.389 --> 00:09:30.330 his Primark book, they specifically mentioned 00:09:30.330 --> 00:09:32.950 he's prettier than Sanguinius, despite not knowing 00:09:32.950 --> 00:09:34.769 who that is. Which is a really messed up thing 00:09:34.769 --> 00:09:38.529 to say about a baby. Guys, what is going on? 00:09:39.429 --> 00:09:43.570 This was literally a divine baby who fell from 00:09:43.570 --> 00:09:45.889 the heavens to earth that looks like an angel. 00:09:46.629 --> 00:09:50.149 Cherubim. And Chemo is this pretty awful mining 00:09:50.149 --> 00:09:53.210 world where everyone works the old industrial 00:09:53.210 --> 00:09:56.070 revolution shift of 15 hours a day up in the 00:09:56.070 --> 00:09:59.009 mines when you're five years old. And Fulgrim, 00:09:59.090 --> 00:10:00.950 like every other Primark, grows up pretty quickly. 00:10:01.529 --> 00:10:08.429 Spends some time in the mines. Okay. I saw the 00:10:08.429 --> 00:10:11.809 Minecraft movie the other day. Why? Why did you 00:10:11.809 --> 00:10:20.490 do that? Speak. Speak. Hume has been taken to 00:10:20.490 --> 00:10:23.669 another world. Honestly. He's been taken to another 00:10:23.669 --> 00:10:31.230 world. First we mine. Then we craft. Let's Minecraft. 00:10:31.889 --> 00:10:37.210 Yeah! Woo! It was awesome. This has nothing to 00:10:37.210 --> 00:10:39.710 do with Emperor's Children, but that movie is 00:10:39.710 --> 00:10:46.179 an actual masterclass. Oh no, he left. Seriously, 00:10:47.220 --> 00:10:50.100 the most masterful marketing ploy you could ever 00:10:50.100 --> 00:10:53.299 imagine. We all paid good money to go to that 00:10:53.299 --> 00:10:55.279 movie just to see the moments we already saw 00:10:55.279 --> 00:11:01.259 in the trailer. Yeah. Anyways, everyone clapped 00:11:01.259 --> 00:11:02.960 at all the moments as well, by the way, including 00:11:02.960 --> 00:11:05.740 me. I said Chicken Jockey when Chicken Jockey 00:11:05.740 --> 00:11:11.279 happened. I said Flint and Steel. Flint and Steel. 00:11:12.159 --> 00:11:15.120 Oh my gosh. And there was a Technoblade mention, 00:11:15.240 --> 00:11:17.440 which was actually really sweet. I only know 00:11:17.440 --> 00:11:19.740 who that is because my wife liked Minecraft videos, 00:11:19.860 --> 00:11:23.860 but still, it was cool. Still off track. Have 00:11:23.860 --> 00:11:29.580 you guys seen the video where it's the guy filming 00:11:29.580 --> 00:11:32.320 the part where Technoblade comes on? And you're 00:11:32.320 --> 00:11:34.120 like, oh my gosh, Technoblade! And you can hear 00:11:34.120 --> 00:11:37.740 some kid in the background say, John Pork! It's 00:11:37.740 --> 00:11:42.009 heartbreaking. okay emotionally scarred already 00:11:42.009 --> 00:11:44.710 anyways i'm in my 30s i barely knew what you 00:11:44.710 --> 00:11:49.990 were saying there was a lot of anyways um so 00:11:49.990 --> 00:11:53.490 fulgham grows up in the mines uh like minecraft 00:11:53.490 --> 00:11:57.789 steve from the minecraft movie and unsurprisingly 00:11:57.789 --> 00:12:01.429 he's very good at it and he actually very swiftly 00:12:01.429 --> 00:12:04.210 finds a way to improve all the mining machinery 00:12:04.210 --> 00:12:07.830 and just the world in general he takes over basically 00:12:07.830 --> 00:12:09.659 the whole world without fighting Just because 00:12:09.659 --> 00:12:11.620 he's good at talking and he's very pretty. And 00:12:11.620 --> 00:12:13.559 he makes the machine so efficient that nobody 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:16.460 really has to work anymore. So everyone is able 00:12:16.460 --> 00:12:19.759 to turn to arts and culture. So the world becomes 00:12:19.759 --> 00:12:21.940 quite the paradise, full of art and culture. 00:12:22.539 --> 00:12:25.100 It's just a really good time. He has a lot of 00:12:25.100 --> 00:12:27.659 political marriages. He doesn't need to fight 00:12:27.659 --> 00:12:31.039 any wars because he's the GOAT. But that's basically 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:34.139 Fulgrim's childhood to adulthood. I don't know 00:12:34.139 --> 00:12:36.200 if I missed anything. There's only one thing. 00:12:36.299 --> 00:12:39.980 There was a group of people like the Sylthi or 00:12:39.980 --> 00:12:42.320 something. There's a group of tribesmen who lived 00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:45.860 in like an abandoned mining facility and they'd 00:12:45.860 --> 00:12:49.100 refused to like join. And Fulcrum basically said, 00:12:49.200 --> 00:12:52.179 man, I'm making this perfect world, but these 00:12:52.179 --> 00:12:54.879 people aren't going to join me. And so they... 00:12:56.350 --> 00:12:59.490 killed them to even like they every single one 00:12:59.490 --> 00:13:02.470 of them died so he's like he basically went oops 00:13:02.470 --> 00:13:04.669 you know kind of have to eliminate the things 00:13:04.669 --> 00:13:07.509 that don't fall into my person gotta do what 00:13:07.509 --> 00:13:11.090 you gotta do but everyone else gilliman had the 00:13:11.090 --> 00:13:13.350 same kind of thing on his home world and he didn't 00:13:13.350 --> 00:13:16.649 butcher the ball i guess ah well yeah he's lame 00:13:16.649 --> 00:13:24.039 is cool die um OK, that's basically it. There 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:25.840 was really no issues when the emperor showed 00:13:25.840 --> 00:13:27.899 up. He joined the emperor. He bent the knee. 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:31.120 I feel like there was a big moment, but I can't 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:33.120 actually remember what he says. I feel like there's 00:13:33.120 --> 00:13:36.980 a thing that he says. But I guess he remembers 00:13:36.980 --> 00:13:39.720 the big speeches when he made his notes and he 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:42.860 had to cry. He knelt before his sons. That's 00:13:42.860 --> 00:13:45.480 I remember that he knelt before his legion when 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:48.919 they showed up. That was very nice. Back to the 00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:53.610 legion. No, no, no. now better that's a prime 00:13:53.610 --> 00:13:56.710 mark back to the legion though well pilgrim was 00:13:56.710 --> 00:13:59.230 you know making this perfect world the legion 00:13:59.230 --> 00:14:02.610 has been reduced drastically by the flesh blight 00:14:02.610 --> 00:14:07.149 which is mega space cancer uh fabi's bile who 00:14:07.149 --> 00:14:09.429 we'll talk about more in more detail in a little 00:14:09.429 --> 00:14:13.389 bit the chief apothecary is going around executing 00:14:13.389 --> 00:14:16.830 basically the whole legion because he has to 00:14:16.830 --> 00:14:19.110 get rid of all the blights in the legion uh and 00:14:19.110 --> 00:14:20.809 they didn't know this at the time but trey's 00:14:20.809 --> 00:14:23.429 in the infinite got rid of and stole most of 00:14:23.429 --> 00:14:25.830 their Gene Seed, which really screwed them, so 00:14:25.830 --> 00:14:27.850 they had barely any Gene Seed. Most of it was 00:14:27.850 --> 00:14:31.049 corrupted. They seemed pretty doomed at the moment. 00:14:31.230 --> 00:14:33.190 By the time Fulgrim got there, there was only 00:14:33.190 --> 00:14:37.029 200 of them left. Fabius was one of them. Fabius, 00:14:37.110 --> 00:14:39.990 of course, still had the Blight, but it didn't 00:14:39.990 --> 00:14:43.110 matter. Lucius was one of them, I believe. I 00:14:43.110 --> 00:14:45.809 don't remember all the other names, but yeah. 00:14:46.309 --> 00:14:48.909 He showed up. Akaduana, I think, was one of them. 00:14:49.730 --> 00:14:54.919 Akaduana. change your list uh yeah abdomen who 00:14:54.919 --> 00:14:57.559 is the one who's like in charge of the legion 00:14:57.559 --> 00:14:59.840 first name is abdomen that's crazy i i remember 00:14:59.840 --> 00:15:02.419 reading that book and wondering why this is his 00:15:02.419 --> 00:15:06.759 name gene seed is made in the abdomen or something 00:15:06.759 --> 00:15:11.919 he's um uh he wasn't one of the original europa 00:15:11.919 --> 00:15:13.679 ones he was like a dark skinned guy who had like 00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:17.360 um uh like silver braids because of the fulgrim 00:15:17.360 --> 00:15:21.509 gene seed which is kind of a cool like um emperor's 00:15:21.509 --> 00:15:30.169 children okay okay i'll have you know i'll have 00:15:30.169 --> 00:15:33.090 you all know chat only a few pages into fulgrim's 00:15:33.090 --> 00:15:36.149 primark book it talks about how broad his shoulders 00:15:36.149 --> 00:15:39.129 are and how deceptively jacked he is so i i'll 00:15:39.129 --> 00:15:45.509 die on that hill anyways fulgrim shows up he 00:15:45.509 --> 00:15:49.230 saves his legion but The flesh blight thing is 00:15:49.230 --> 00:15:50.870 kind of making him think that maybe he's not 00:15:50.870 --> 00:15:54.070 so perfect, and it kind of sows the seeds of 00:15:54.070 --> 00:15:57.929 insecurity within him, because they are the perfect 00:15:57.929 --> 00:16:01.289 Legion. They strive for perfection. At this time, 00:16:01.289 --> 00:16:03.470 though, because Legion's so small, they're so 00:16:03.470 --> 00:16:05.590 used to kind of just fighting in personal battles 00:16:05.590 --> 00:16:08.789 and in tight -knit groups. Fulgrim now needs 00:16:08.789 --> 00:16:11.210 to teach them how to fight war normally, because 00:16:11.210 --> 00:16:13.169 their time of just serving alongside the army 00:16:13.169 --> 00:16:14.730 is done, because they're going to rebuild the 00:16:14.730 --> 00:16:16.879 Legion. and have a big old time just like everyone 00:16:16.879 --> 00:16:18.879 else. Let it be known, though, that the army 00:16:18.879 --> 00:16:20.500 actually loves these guys, and they're like the 00:16:20.500 --> 00:16:23.720 greatest heroes of the Imperium. I guess I should 00:16:23.720 --> 00:16:27.620 have also mentioned detachment of Emperor's children 00:16:27.620 --> 00:16:29.779 died to the man, saving the Emperor so that he 00:16:29.779 --> 00:16:32.259 could get off the planet. Emperor honored them 00:16:32.259 --> 00:16:35.019 so much that he let them bear the Imperial Aquila. 00:16:35.080 --> 00:16:37.360 They're the only ones who got to bear the Aquila 00:16:37.360 --> 00:16:39.139 during the heresy because they're literally the 00:16:39.139 --> 00:16:44.019 goats in the best legion. Foreshadowing is a 00:16:44.019 --> 00:16:53.059 narrative device. That's the same energy I felt 00:16:53.059 --> 00:16:56.779 there, Colin. It's the power of my voice having 00:16:56.779 --> 00:17:04.440 one setting. So Fulgrim gets his legion, he has 00:17:04.440 --> 00:17:07.220 to teach them how to fight as normal Space Marines, 00:17:07.380 --> 00:17:11.329 so they buddy up with the Luna Wolves. fulgham 00:17:11.329 --> 00:17:13.990 becomes very good friends with horace and he 00:17:13.990 --> 00:17:16.150 also becomes very good friends with ferris i 00:17:16.150 --> 00:17:17.990 don't remember if that's before or after though 00:17:17.990 --> 00:17:21.009 i don't know do you remember when they are uh 00:17:21.009 --> 00:17:24.589 just about to leave terror he meets ferris under 00:17:24.589 --> 00:17:28.049 so it's before it's yeah just before unless you 00:17:28.049 --> 00:17:29.910 are you going to go into it yeah yeah so just 00:17:29.910 --> 00:17:33.769 before he um left or terror all right well before 00:17:33.769 --> 00:17:37.309 they join up with horse ferris and fulgham meet 00:17:37.309 --> 00:17:42.000 each other and they decide They can forge the 00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:43.819 better weapon than the other guy, basically. 00:17:44.259 --> 00:17:46.400 They both go to the mountain, they put their 00:17:46.400 --> 00:17:49.019 heart and soul, it's like weeks or something 00:17:49.019 --> 00:17:50.579 that they work on these things, I'm pretty sure. 00:17:50.579 --> 00:17:56.000 Three months, I think it is. Three months. Don't 00:17:56.000 --> 00:17:57.779 worry about all that crusading you need to do, 00:17:57.859 --> 00:18:00.940 guys. You know that tune, it's just like, live 00:18:00.940 --> 00:18:04.460 to win, till you die, then can fight. That's 00:18:04.460 --> 00:18:06.759 playing when they're making their swords. It's 00:18:06.759 --> 00:18:09.460 very, very fun. These two are also the polar 00:18:09.460 --> 00:18:11.579 opposites of each other. Fairest Manus is the 00:18:11.579 --> 00:18:14.460 ugliest MF ever. Fulgrim is the prettiest MF 00:18:14.460 --> 00:18:18.039 ever. They call him the Gorgon because he's ugly. 00:18:18.579 --> 00:18:22.099 So they're unlikely friends. And at the start, 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:25.200 they're not friends. But they spend months working 00:18:25.200 --> 00:18:27.240 on these weapons. Fulgrim forges the greatest 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:30.500 hammer ever made, Forgebreaker. Fairest makes 00:18:30.500 --> 00:18:33.650 the greatest sword ever made, Fireblade. they 00:18:33.650 --> 00:18:35.250 could have tried a little harder on the name 00:18:35.250 --> 00:18:38.630 it's a sword that is on fire hey it's warhammer 00:18:38.630 --> 00:18:42.970 bro iron hand with iron hand well to be fair 00:18:42.970 --> 00:18:45.549 the emperor's sword is just called like the emperor's 00:18:45.549 --> 00:18:48.230 sword it's not got a proper name and that's also 00:18:48.230 --> 00:18:51.970 with the sword that's on fire so like but they 00:18:51.970 --> 00:18:54.869 turn and they see each other's weapons and they 00:18:54.869 --> 00:18:58.309 see how incredibly perfect they are that uh they 00:18:58.309 --> 00:19:01.089 kind of i don't know what the right word is but 00:19:01.609 --> 00:19:03.509 They give in to each other and admit that the 00:19:03.509 --> 00:19:07.309 other guy made the better thing. Okay, calm down. 00:19:08.390 --> 00:19:10.910 And they trade weapons in that moment. And a 00:19:10.910 --> 00:19:13.930 great friendship is formed between the two. They 00:19:13.930 --> 00:19:15.730 sharpen each other's weapons. What? That sounds 00:19:15.730 --> 00:19:19.329 a bit rude. What's going on? Real funny. Real 00:19:19.329 --> 00:19:24.910 funny. Sorry. Can I polish your hilt, brother? 00:19:25.150 --> 00:19:30.519 Whoa, whoa. Calm down. Calm down. So now... Fulgrim 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:33.940 has Fireblade made by Farris. Farris has Forcebreaker 00:19:33.940 --> 00:19:36.039 made by Fulgrim and is a symbol of their friendship 00:19:36.039 --> 00:19:38.819 and brotherhood. And I think you can easily say 00:19:38.819 --> 00:19:40.940 that they are the two best friends out of all 00:19:40.940 --> 00:19:42.579 the Primarchs. They're the two greatest brothers 00:19:42.579 --> 00:19:45.859 of all the Primarchs. No one really has a bond 00:19:45.859 --> 00:19:49.180 like those two do. It's interesting that Farris 00:19:49.180 --> 00:19:52.220 was forging a sword. considering i wouldn't have 00:19:52.220 --> 00:19:54.200 thought he'd be a sword yeah it doesn't really 00:19:54.200 --> 00:19:56.359 make any sense yeah that always throws me off 00:19:56.359 --> 00:19:59.299 but i guess fulgrim makes a hammer because he 00:19:59.299 --> 00:20:02.880 was basically a blacksmith slash technician slash 00:20:02.880 --> 00:20:05.259 engineer well i guess when you think about like 00:20:05.259 --> 00:20:07.779 fulgrim he grew up in a mine so hammers are good 00:20:07.779 --> 00:20:10.059 for like excavation whereas like if you think 00:20:10.059 --> 00:20:13.019 of a sword it's like the most widespread form 00:20:13.019 --> 00:20:15.759 of like any any weapon the sword is the most 00:20:15.759 --> 00:20:20.470 versatile ferris is like it's all about perfection 00:20:20.470 --> 00:20:22.990 through martial skill a sword is clearly the 00:20:22.990 --> 00:20:25.490 best kind of weapon i will make a sword and make 00:20:25.490 --> 00:20:29.109 it better on fire like oh very impressive like 00:20:29.109 --> 00:20:33.490 he just flex him he flexes but it's very nice 00:20:33.490 --> 00:20:36.210 it's very nice after this they do leave tara 00:20:36.210 --> 00:20:38.869 and they work alongside horus and the little 00:20:38.869 --> 00:20:41.910 wolves and kind of learn how to fight a war normally 00:20:41.910 --> 00:20:45.470 and then they go on to fight on murder if i'm 00:20:45.470 --> 00:20:49.380 correct i'm pretty sure i'm correct um And Eidolon 00:20:49.380 --> 00:20:53.160 is proven to be kind of a jerk during the conflict, 00:20:53.420 --> 00:20:55.539 and we'll talk about him later as well. Lord 00:20:55.539 --> 00:20:58.039 Commander Eidolon. They fight, what, with the 00:20:58.039 --> 00:21:04.059 Blood Angels and the Lunar Wolves, right? Yes. 00:21:04.299 --> 00:21:06.619 Anyone else? The Sons of Horus, yeah. This is 00:21:06.619 --> 00:21:09.940 from the hit book, Horus Rising. Yeah, I read 00:21:09.940 --> 00:21:16.660 that book probably eight years ago. Yeah. But 00:21:16.660 --> 00:21:19.269 it's a cool book. Lucius has some fun times in 00:21:19.269 --> 00:21:23.009 this. He starts playing with Zeno's stuff with 00:21:23.009 --> 00:21:26.089 one of the super sharp limbs of the murder things. 00:21:26.470 --> 00:21:30.490 What are they called? Megarachnids. Yeah, there 00:21:30.490 --> 00:21:35.069 you go. Colin got it. I think this is one of 00:21:35.069 --> 00:21:37.630 the two books that Colin has read in the Horse 00:21:37.630 --> 00:21:41.789 Heresy. Oh no, it's one of one. I thought you 00:21:41.789 --> 00:21:45.630 read Angel Exterminatus. Am I trolling? No, I 00:21:45.630 --> 00:21:48.109 read like the... you know the important bits 00:21:48.109 --> 00:21:51.450 with the eldar oh yeah i'm sure you like those 00:21:51.450 --> 00:21:57.910 oh my gosh okay i've read bits and pieces of 00:21:57.910 --> 00:22:04.130 many horus heresy books so after murder which 00:22:04.130 --> 00:22:06.849 is a success a very bloody success but a success 00:22:06.849 --> 00:22:12.329 nonetheless we uh move on to the unfortunate 00:22:12.329 --> 00:22:16.559 plot device that the planets of lair in where 00:22:16.559 --> 00:22:20.559 they fight these wacky snake people who have 00:22:20.559 --> 00:22:23.900 kind of different they have a caste system we 00:22:23.900 --> 00:22:25.440 can't we talked about this already in the great 00:22:25.440 --> 00:22:27.359 crusade so i don't need to go over that much 00:22:27.359 --> 00:22:29.460 but there's snake people with different genetic 00:22:29.460 --> 00:22:31.920 types of snake people and they're surgically 00:22:31.920 --> 00:22:33.960 altered somewhere to fight somewhere to mine 00:22:33.960 --> 00:22:36.960 etc uh it's the ocean planet it's really cool 00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:40.079 uh they fight the war there it's pretty bloody 00:22:40.079 --> 00:22:43.240 but they do win and at the end of the day oh 00:22:43.240 --> 00:22:46.359 there's a layer yeah that There it is. Those 00:22:46.359 --> 00:22:49.259 look totally fine, we should definitely go into 00:22:49.259 --> 00:22:51.619 their temple and take their stuff. Look at that, 00:22:51.700 --> 00:22:55.200 what's going on there? I see no issues here with 00:22:55.200 --> 00:23:01.299 this. For the audio listeners, imagine essentially 00:23:01.299 --> 00:23:06.500 a lower half snake body into a human torso with 00:23:06.500 --> 00:23:10.380 four arms and essentially an altered face with 00:23:10.380 --> 00:23:14.880 the longest tongue. and bro literally was like 00:23:14.880 --> 00:23:18.619 i'm a snake i wonder if i wonder if there's a 00:23:18.619 --> 00:23:20.400 i wonder if fulgham is supposed to look like 00:23:20.400 --> 00:23:23.180 one of these things or not it's implied like 00:23:23.180 --> 00:23:26.559 later yeah like copying homework it's the the 00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:30.400 perfect form so to say yeah like fabius is dissecting 00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:32.460 them and being like this is actually like the 00:23:32.460 --> 00:23:37.420 perfect yeah yeah like the alien from alien it's 00:23:37.420 --> 00:23:42.720 like yeah yeah wow we should slightly mention 00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:45.359 the emperor's children at this this is over 200 00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:48.579 years of war uh up to this point though and the 00:23:48.579 --> 00:23:50.619 emperor's children are a little bit they're not 00:23:50.619 --> 00:23:55.640 quite as noble uh as they were previously they're 00:23:55.640 --> 00:23:57.740 a bit more like you know i mean like they're 00:23:57.740 --> 00:23:59.140 near the they're near the finish line of the 00:23:59.140 --> 00:24:01.119 great crusade so they're a little bit more like 00:24:01.119 --> 00:24:03.220 bro we've got to try even harder and press people 00:24:03.220 --> 00:24:06.359 even harder you know i mean they've gone have 00:24:06.359 --> 00:24:08.519 you seen those ultramarines god that's not fair 00:24:08.519 --> 00:24:13.099 they got empire They've lost their way a little 00:24:13.099 --> 00:24:16.680 bit in terms of... Although there is something 00:24:16.680 --> 00:24:19.960 to be said about the Empress children who weren't 00:24:19.960 --> 00:24:22.400 present during the Lair incident got off with 00:24:22.400 --> 00:24:25.019 not being corrupt. The influence was so strong 00:24:25.019 --> 00:24:27.279 that there were factions of the Empress children 00:24:27.279 --> 00:24:29.539 who were like, I just heard about this. What 00:24:29.539 --> 00:24:33.890 do you mean? What? They did a what? Okay. uh 00:24:33.890 --> 00:24:35.690 there was still a lot of nobility in it they 00:24:35.690 --> 00:24:37.750 still pursued the arts a lot kind of like the 00:24:37.750 --> 00:24:39.789 blood angels i suppose and even the white scars 00:24:39.789 --> 00:24:42.990 um and they still worked well with their remembrancers 00:24:42.990 --> 00:24:45.369 and imperial army but yeah they go to the lair 00:24:45.369 --> 00:24:50.930 temple uh and the lair are a are slash worshippers 00:24:50.930 --> 00:24:52.609 they're the whole planet is corrupted by slash 00:24:52.609 --> 00:24:54.789 basically and they go to this temple where there's 00:24:54.789 --> 00:24:59.900 this big uh snake orgy and there's a lot of pink 00:24:59.900 --> 00:25:02.460 mist going around and there's remembrances there 00:25:02.460 --> 00:25:05.559 and there's a weird dissonant sound going on 00:25:05.559 --> 00:25:08.619 that they can't really describe fulgrim takes 00:25:08.619 --> 00:25:10.700 the sword and it's over and we don't have to 00:25:10.700 --> 00:25:12.920 talk about it anymore honestly uh that's that's 00:25:12.920 --> 00:25:14.279 the end that's the end of the year here's a nice 00:25:14.279 --> 00:25:16.940 picture of the sword look at that oh i picked 00:25:16.940 --> 00:25:21.200 that up we should build up the scene in terms 00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:24.319 of like in this like this is like the end of 00:25:24.319 --> 00:25:26.559 the fight and they're going in to like mop it 00:25:26.559 --> 00:25:29.380 up And, like, they said there's colours on the 00:25:29.380 --> 00:25:31.220 wall they didn't even realise could be a colour. 00:25:31.299 --> 00:25:33.539 Like, there's new colours on the wall. The music 00:25:33.539 --> 00:25:35.339 is, like, doing something to everyone. Like, 00:25:35.400 --> 00:25:36.839 the Emperor's children are, like, almost being 00:25:36.839 --> 00:25:39.319 sick. And Fulgrim just walks into the middle 00:25:39.319 --> 00:25:44.220 of the slippery orge, shall we say. And then 00:25:44.220 --> 00:25:45.779 he just, after he picks up the blade, he says, 00:25:45.859 --> 00:25:47.960 kill them all, basically. Kill all the lair. 00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:50.599 And so they do kill the Xenos. Although isn't 00:25:50.599 --> 00:25:52.339 there like a fun fact with the Empress children 00:25:52.339 --> 00:25:55.240 wearing purple where like our brains, there isn't 00:25:55.240 --> 00:25:57.099 really, I've heard there isn't really a color 00:25:57.099 --> 00:25:59.920 purple. It's actually just a lack of green and 00:25:59.920 --> 00:26:03.160 our brain can't comprehend a lack of not blue 00:26:03.160 --> 00:26:07.019 plus what yellow. So it creates purple as like 00:26:07.019 --> 00:26:08.940 an illusion. It's basically like our brain is 00:26:08.940 --> 00:26:11.299 trying to make sense of a lack of green. And 00:26:11.299 --> 00:26:14.039 that's what purple is. It's a weird color. I 00:26:14.039 --> 00:26:17.359 have not heard that. Can I say? I have. With 00:26:17.359 --> 00:26:20.190 a. Colin, previously using this history degree, 00:26:20.369 --> 00:26:22.509 I think you have. All right, let's see what we 00:26:22.509 --> 00:26:24.490 got. Previously, was there an assumption like 00:26:24.490 --> 00:26:27.109 in ancient Greece, they didn't have the word, 00:26:27.109 --> 00:26:29.589 I think, was it for blue or something? They didn't 00:26:29.589 --> 00:26:31.190 have the word for certain colors. Therefore, 00:26:31.309 --> 00:26:34.109 when they used to draw maps and things or describe 00:26:34.109 --> 00:26:37.309 scenes, they used other. They said things like 00:26:37.309 --> 00:26:40.349 the sky was red or something or oranges only. 00:26:42.210 --> 00:26:46.930 I have to confess, I do not know that. I think 00:26:46.930 --> 00:26:50.410 it's like, you know, when I see, did I total 00:26:50.410 --> 00:26:52.470 war Troy? They'd like a nod to that. I think 00:26:52.470 --> 00:26:55.069 like certain things are oranges and reds. And 00:26:55.069 --> 00:26:57.150 also like, weirdly enough, like there's some 00:26:57.150 --> 00:26:59.349 places in Africa where like tribes don't have 00:26:59.349 --> 00:27:01.789 the worth for certain colors. They can't, you 00:27:01.789 --> 00:27:03.990 can't like perceive colors by a certain one, 00:27:04.069 --> 00:27:06.470 but they have more words to describe colors in 00:27:06.470 --> 00:27:08.970 between other ones. So they can see more blues 00:27:08.970 --> 00:27:12.250 and greens than we can. Really weird. Very, very 00:27:12.250 --> 00:27:14.849 cool. Now this is admittedly, according to the, 00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:18.700 the first page of Google, but according to that, 00:27:18.759 --> 00:27:21.960 the ancient Greek word for purple was porphyra. 00:27:24.140 --> 00:27:26.660 Porphyra. I think they called it Phoenician. 00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:31.779 Which is Fulgrim's nickname. Fulgrim is known 00:27:31.779 --> 00:27:35.839 as the Phoenician now. So my analogy was mainly 00:27:35.839 --> 00:27:38.380 because the Legion kind of came up like a phoenix. 00:27:39.480 --> 00:27:41.000 I don't know if they were actually referencing 00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:45.019 the Phoenicians or not. Fulgrim got the nickname 00:27:45.019 --> 00:27:47.740 Phoenician, I think it's because he was seen 00:27:47.740 --> 00:27:51.299 as some great thing that came from beyond or 00:27:51.299 --> 00:27:54.339 something, and then he would travel. When you 00:27:54.339 --> 00:27:56.700 look at Chemos, he revivified their culture from 00:27:56.700 --> 00:27:59.140 like, our machines are barely working, and he 00:27:59.140 --> 00:28:02.279 revived our culture, and he gave new life to 00:28:02.279 --> 00:28:06.019 our entire civilization. That's Phoenix -esque. 00:28:06.600 --> 00:28:10.700 I suppose. And similar to Phoenicians in real 00:28:10.700 --> 00:28:13.000 history. Oh, Colin probably knows more about 00:28:13.000 --> 00:28:20.180 that. So who they are, just very briefly. I mean, 00:28:20.200 --> 00:28:27.539 they were... Dog! Shut up. Not you. Dog. They're 00:28:27.539 --> 00:28:32.539 going to Cirque. They were a trading empire that 00:28:32.539 --> 00:28:35.740 a colony of them became Carthage. who would beat 00:28:35.740 --> 00:28:37.400 the shit out of Rome, and Rome would beat the 00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:39.839 shit out of them, and it was... That's how we 00:28:39.839 --> 00:28:42.539 got Total War. It was fun times. So, yeah, that's 00:28:42.539 --> 00:28:45.480 pretty... Yeah, that's Total War. I'm gonna go... 00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:47.900 I'll be right back. The dog is absolutely freaking 00:28:47.900 --> 00:28:54.319 out. That's right. Alright. So, he picks up the 00:28:54.319 --> 00:28:56.839 Lair Blade, and like I said, it's basically over 00:28:56.839 --> 00:28:59.099 from there. You can say goodbye to your nice, 00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:01.200 noble Emperor's children, the greatest Legion 00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:05.609 ever made. From this point on... From this point 00:29:05.609 --> 00:29:08.349 on, every Space Marine and every Remembrancer 00:29:08.349 --> 00:29:10.710 who went to the Lair Temple are corrupted by 00:29:10.710 --> 00:29:12.670 Slaanesh and there's literally nothing they can 00:29:12.670 --> 00:29:15.029 do about it. They have no choice in the matter 00:29:15.029 --> 00:29:18.710 at all. They just fall to chaos over a slow period 00:29:18.710 --> 00:29:22.150 of time and they kind of very slowly get more 00:29:22.150 --> 00:29:24.250 debauched. It happens much faster with the Remembrancers, 00:29:24.289 --> 00:29:27.970 unsurprisingly. People start to get very strange 00:29:27.970 --> 00:29:31.740 and debauched. decadent smearing poop on the 00:29:31.740 --> 00:29:36.259 walls and like yeah things get really really 00:29:36.259 --> 00:29:38.960 freaky and they kind of just fall into degeneracy 00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:42.680 very slowly the zenith of this corruption is 00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:45.160 becca kinska's meraviglia where she tries to 00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:47.559 replicate the sound that she heard in the lair 00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:50.359 temple that she recorded and it was kind of like 00:29:50.359 --> 00:29:54.299 making her go crazy she plays this wacky symphony 00:29:54.299 --> 00:29:56.880 and these noise marines show up oh i forgot to 00:29:56.880 --> 00:30:00.259 mention um we mentioned fabius earlier that he 00:30:00.259 --> 00:30:02.339 was dissecting the lair and saying that these 00:30:02.339 --> 00:30:06.160 are maybe the perfect species ever made. He slowly 00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:09.940 convinced Fulgrim that if they're seeking perfection, 00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:14.140 then these are the perfect things. And now maybe 00:30:14.140 --> 00:30:16.440 we should be altering ourselves. At first, Fulgrim 00:30:16.440 --> 00:30:20.640 was not a big fan, but the sword, he picked up 00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:23.579 the sword and he slowly, he slowly kind of gave 00:30:23.579 --> 00:30:26.359 into Fabius's ideas. It was slightly before the 00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:30.759 sword. It was. yeah the the sword happens immediately 00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:34.799 after because um fabius is doing the dissections 00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:38.380 and then he literally says to fulgrim like we 00:30:38.380 --> 00:30:40.660 think we see earlier fulgrim says what's like 00:30:40.660 --> 00:30:42.559 his biggest fear and he says his fear is to fail 00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:45.500 and then fabius says to him what if we fail because 00:30:45.500 --> 00:30:48.880 we fail to make ourselves more perfect yeah but 00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:51.160 the first time fabius says it to fulgrim fulgrim 00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:55.119 gets very angry at him um but then he eventually 00:30:55.119 --> 00:30:59.200 gives in uh and fabius goes to work wildly just 00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:01.700 being corrupted at the same time uh surgically 00:31:01.700 --> 00:31:04.119 altering a lot of space marines and that's also 00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:06.720 where the first noise marines come from he surgically 00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:08.579 altered them to the point of being cacophonized 00:31:08.579 --> 00:31:12.680 and they show up and back he even does surgery 00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:15.420 on eidolon's vocal cords yeah so that during 00:31:15.420 --> 00:31:21.859 um stuff yeah just before the is on uh free atrocity 00:31:22.539 --> 00:31:24.940 saw tarvitz is there with eidolon and he just 00:31:24.940 --> 00:31:28.940 like screams at a warp singer and he's like sindel 00:31:28.940 --> 00:31:31.599 from mortal kombat this thing just melts when 00:31:31.599 --> 00:31:35.160 he's like yeah i forgot about that yeah like 00:31:35.160 --> 00:31:38.559 that's his thing like there's like a there's 00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:40.900 a hint he does it as well slightly earlier but 00:31:40.900 --> 00:31:43.980 that's a i'll save when he like gets to it fabius 00:31:43.980 --> 00:31:46.039 does a lot of things under the table that he's 00:31:46.039 --> 00:31:49.099 probably not supposed to be doing um there's 00:31:49.099 --> 00:31:51.869 also one detail i literally because i read that 00:31:51.869 --> 00:31:54.529 reread the book recently i didn't realize the 00:31:54.529 --> 00:31:58.170 recordings of the layer like slanesh music they 00:31:58.170 --> 00:32:00.150 were playing that throughout the emperor's children's 00:32:00.150 --> 00:32:02.690 ships and fulgham had it amazing one loop in 00:32:02.690 --> 00:32:05.589 his quarters yeah for ages so i didn't realize 00:32:05.589 --> 00:32:09.529 like that was like oh okay yeah yeah um so and 00:32:09.529 --> 00:32:14.930 does the the mayor of igliad happens after they 00:32:14.930 --> 00:32:18.029 meet with uh eldred doesn't it i'm getting ahead 00:32:18.029 --> 00:32:21.349 of myself yes um so before the zenith of their 00:32:21.349 --> 00:32:24.329 corruption fulgrim comes across a few maiden 00:32:24.329 --> 00:32:27.289 worlds he checks them out sees that they're very 00:32:27.289 --> 00:32:29.410 pretty and beautiful and wonderful and decides 00:32:29.410 --> 00:32:33.250 not to invade them at the same time eldrad is 00:32:33.250 --> 00:32:36.289 kind of shadowing the fleet watching them and 00:32:36.289 --> 00:32:39.079 he sees that they don't attack so we assumes 00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:41.380 that they can maybe trust them and so he parlays 00:32:41.380 --> 00:32:43.700 with fulgrim and it actually goes very well i've 00:32:43.700 --> 00:32:46.299 never seen that picture before i could use that 00:32:46.299 --> 00:32:49.140 a long time ago it's fabulous yeah fabulous yeah 00:32:49.140 --> 00:32:52.240 i so he eldred parlays with the emperor's children 00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:55.000 uh and it's i don't remember everyone who he 00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:58.500 brings down but it's lucius and eidolon are both 00:32:58.500 --> 00:33:02.119 there and oh my gosh i don't remember any of 00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:03.859 their names there's like three other major guys 00:33:03.859 --> 00:33:09.940 demeter Marius. Marius, yeah. But yeah, they 00:33:09.940 --> 00:33:12.539 share a meal together, Eldrad and Fulgrim, and 00:33:12.539 --> 00:33:15.420 for a while, they get along pretty nicely. They 00:33:15.420 --> 00:33:18.960 talk about philosophy and their empires and stuff 00:33:18.960 --> 00:33:22.900 in general. And then Eldrad breaks the news to 00:33:22.900 --> 00:33:26.539 Fulgrim that Horus has been fatally wounded. 00:33:27.459 --> 00:33:30.680 And Fulgrim is in distress. He's in anguish, 00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:32.900 wondering if Horus will live. And Eldreda says 00:33:32.900 --> 00:33:34.980 he will, but it'd be better if he didn't. And 00:33:34.980 --> 00:33:37.039 then Fulgrim gets really mad. And then Eldreda 00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:39.079 explains exactly what's going to happen during 00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:42.579 the Horus heresy, kind of, cryptically, because 00:33:42.579 --> 00:33:45.220 he's Eldreda and he can never just say what's 00:33:45.220 --> 00:33:47.720 going on. But he does still explain... You're 00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:48.880 just too stupid to get it. You're just too stupid 00:33:48.880 --> 00:33:52.799 to know. He still explains the Horus heresy. 00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:59.650 Okay. And... actually fulgrim to his credit lets 00:33:59.650 --> 00:34:02.750 eldrad actually finish what he's saying and they 00:34:02.750 --> 00:34:05.309 actually he's able to convey all the information 00:34:05.309 --> 00:34:08.730 to fulgrim and fulgrim doesn't completely freak 00:34:08.730 --> 00:34:11.389 out immediately but then the sword in his head 00:34:11.389 --> 00:34:13.849 which he has never realized that the sword is 00:34:13.849 --> 00:34:15.409 talking to him this whole time for some reason 00:34:15.409 --> 00:34:18.969 it just seems to work so the lair blaze literally 00:34:18.969 --> 00:34:22.519 like you're a high value man bruh you're a high 00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:32.880 value man he has freaking andrew tate whispering 00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:35.579 in his ear basically mind controlling him at 00:34:35.579 --> 00:34:37.179 the end of the day the layer blade is a mind 00:34:37.179 --> 00:34:40.280 control device it's his own voice as well to 00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:42.840 mention yeah he thinks it's his own subconscious 00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:45.360 because it sounds like his own voice his own 00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:49.059 head basically you know yeah again he has no 00:34:49.059 --> 00:34:51.619 choice legion has no choice because the the horse 00:34:51.619 --> 00:34:53.480 heresy was supposed to be like five books or 00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:56.260 something so they kind of just needed to get 00:34:56.260 --> 00:34:59.699 them corrupted and be done with it now yeah the 00:34:59.699 --> 00:35:01.480 emperor's children would have likely never sided 00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:06.360 with horus um they were very loyal And Fulgrim 00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:09.239 loved the Emperor and was very, very loyal. But 00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:11.639 the sword says, this Xenos is lying. You should 00:35:11.639 --> 00:35:14.780 kill him. And he says, okay. And then they fight. 00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:18.679 Fulgrim blows up an Avatar of Cain with his bare 00:35:18.679 --> 00:35:21.300 hands because he's goaded like that. Without 00:35:21.300 --> 00:35:24.820 demon power, he fights a full -strength Avatar 00:35:24.820 --> 00:35:28.699 of Cain with his bare hands. He's literally goaded. 00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:32.179 It's better than freaking... Ultramarines do 00:35:32.179 --> 00:35:33.800 that all the time. Better than Ultramarine killing 00:35:33.800 --> 00:35:36.900 you. It's still better than that. No, that's 00:35:36.900 --> 00:35:42.559 an Ultramarine. Oh my gosh. It says his hands 00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:45.699 are burning. He chokes that. He doesn't suffocate 00:35:45.699 --> 00:35:48.880 it though. He crushes his neck and explodes it. 00:35:50.860 --> 00:35:53.079 It's pretty awesome though. They beat the Eldar. 00:35:53.400 --> 00:35:56.119 Lucius gets a Howling Banshee blade and now he's 00:35:56.119 --> 00:35:57.579 fighting with two blades because he's quirky 00:35:57.579 --> 00:36:08.179 like that. before we get any further though just 00:36:08.179 --> 00:36:10.380 the actual horrors heresy uh andy do we have 00:36:10.380 --> 00:36:13.159 some donuts that were yeah we got some donuts 00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:16.659 to say the least uh pancreas is silliest clown 00:36:16.659 --> 00:36:21.300 for five theoretical A polite donation will get 00:36:21.300 --> 00:36:23.960 plenty of attention. Practical. Hairline .txt 00:36:49.649 --> 00:36:58.670 chicken jackie i've never heard it oh my gosh 00:36:58.670 --> 00:37:04.909 uh morgues sap morgues minecraft movie sequel 00:37:04.909 --> 00:37:08.409 better be just better just be garbage man and 00:37:08.409 --> 00:37:11.929 steve continuing to deny for a full release oh 00:37:11.929 --> 00:37:15.050 eli i've got i've got horrid sequel news for 00:37:15.050 --> 00:37:20.449 you Paramount Greenlit Angry Birds 3, which means 00:37:20.449 --> 00:37:23.289 they made the conscious choice to go, we don't 00:37:23.289 --> 00:37:27.030 want a Transformers 1 sequel. Oh my god. Well, 00:37:27.090 --> 00:37:29.670 if you see what the Minecraft movie does, you 00:37:29.670 --> 00:37:31.630 think we can do the same thing and probably make 00:37:31.630 --> 00:37:34.489 a bunch of stupid moments and then... You know 00:37:34.489 --> 00:37:36.969 what made me go, what? Liam Neeson is starring 00:37:36.969 --> 00:37:41.969 in a naked gun remake? I don't know what that 00:37:41.969 --> 00:37:45.329 is. Is that a guy with a gun who's naked or what? 00:37:45.710 --> 00:37:49.409 no you know like leslie nielsen no like he's 00:37:49.409 --> 00:37:51.250 got like white hair and he was a comedian he 00:37:51.250 --> 00:37:52.989 was really funny and he was in like all sorts 00:37:52.989 --> 00:37:55.309 of films including the naked gun and they're 00:37:55.309 --> 00:37:57.349 like we're just going to remake this 30 40 years 00:37:57.349 --> 00:38:00.630 later like oh okay i'm trying to feed you anyway 00:38:00.630 --> 00:38:05.650 it wouldn't bite yeah that's his ass you know 00:38:05.650 --> 00:38:08.730 don't call me shirley yeah thank you thank you 00:38:08.730 --> 00:38:10.670 for the two dollars fulgham hey fierce you ever 00:38:10.670 --> 00:38:13.130 heard of wincest come on get that out of here 00:38:14.889 --> 00:38:17.289 Get it out of here, they were friends. Parker 00:38:17.289 --> 00:38:21.050 Summerlin, 499. The Emperor's children turn to 00:38:21.050 --> 00:38:23.670 chaos because of one man, and his name is P. 00:38:23.829 --> 00:38:26.929 Diddy! Hashtag baby whale. Yeah, like a baby 00:38:26.929 --> 00:38:29.389 whale. Pretty sword, for real. Think of the five. 00:38:30.969 --> 00:38:33.230 Death's best friend with the five. Emperor's 00:38:33.230 --> 00:38:35.110 children kiss the homies goodnight, why don't 00:38:35.110 --> 00:38:37.550 you? That's pretty real. The Emperor's children 00:38:37.550 --> 00:38:41.989 do it with tongues, so. I feel like the Blood 00:38:41.989 --> 00:38:44.280 Angels would kiss each other goodnight. They 00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:49.800 give a little smooch. A little smooch. Optimus 00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:51.480 Jedi. That's a crazy name. Thank you for the 00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:55.239 $5. Rob G in Trump voice. Fulgrim. He's crazy. 00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:58.599 He named his first captain Vagina. Then he fell 00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:01.760 to chaos like a total cuck. People tell me. Thank 00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:05.000 you for the $5. He named his first captain Vagina. 00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:08.480 Then he fell to chaos like a total cuck. People 00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:15.449 tell me. Oh, my God. Gina! Knick -knack. 3587 00:39:15.449 --> 00:39:17.789 for five bucks. Gonna need a knife to cut through 00:39:17.789 --> 00:39:21.610 the glazing this episode. Glad I was able to 00:39:21.610 --> 00:39:23.650 catch you boys live. It's been a minute. It has 00:39:23.650 --> 00:39:25.210 been a minute. Thank you, brother. Thank you. 00:39:25.989 --> 00:39:29.190 Bunny cop, five bucks. Colin got a read Flight 00:39:29.190 --> 00:39:31.710 of the Eisenstein. Learn about our boy Garrow. 00:39:31.809 --> 00:39:36.550 Also, bye -bye puppies. Oh, God. You miss puppies. 00:39:37.150 --> 00:39:46.869 Garrow's neat. truly glass laughter with the 00:39:46.869 --> 00:39:51.730 10 fulgurum i'm jorking at fabius i'm cranking 00:39:51.730 --> 00:39:54.170 it i'm goofing it i'm goofing it's bouncing on 00:39:54.170 --> 00:39:57.130 that i'd be clapping it from tip to base slapping 00:39:57.130 --> 00:40:01.050 it fabius dad i hate you leave me alone i feel 00:40:01.050 --> 00:40:02.369 like you're gonna do that in a wrecking ball 00:40:03.389 --> 00:40:06.429 I'm jogging it, Fabius. I'm cranking it. I'm 00:40:06.429 --> 00:40:08.809 goofing it. I've seen Omni -Man. I'm Viltrum 00:40:08.809 --> 00:40:13.210 -ing it, Mark. I'm Viltrum -ing it. I hate my 00:40:13.210 --> 00:40:19.429 life. I am in unbearable pain. And you should 00:40:19.429 --> 00:40:22.650 read this one. You got a good voice. Oh, wow. 00:40:22.909 --> 00:40:25.269 Thank you, man. Thank you very much, Optimus 00:40:25.269 --> 00:40:31.860 Jedi, for the $20. Trumpy G. He cut my throat. 00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:34.579 It's true. My beautiful throat. People often 00:40:34.579 --> 00:40:37.079 say I have a beautiful throat, but I got an Eldar 00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:41.139 waifu, which made Fulgrim so jealous. I got daddy's 00:40:41.139 --> 00:40:43.539 sword. Gilman does the drum sword dance. Very 00:40:43.539 --> 00:40:50.880 good. Love it. Thank you very much. Crayon. For 00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:56.559 five bucks. For F's sake. Batteries for the buzzing 00:40:56.559 --> 00:41:00.730 throne. Crazy. oh god rabbits for the rabbit 00:41:00.730 --> 00:41:04.750 throne jesus christ last one vincent or elena 00:41:04.750 --> 00:41:07.949 thank you for the 4 .99 five dollar which chaos 00:41:07.949 --> 00:41:09.889 character would you choose to be your secretary 00:41:09.889 --> 00:41:14.949 of commerce or federal reserve chairman wow uh 00:41:14.949 --> 00:41:19.090 i don't know that's a hard question jesus um 00:41:19.090 --> 00:41:22.090 can you are there any trustworthy ones at this 00:41:22.090 --> 00:41:24.250 point this is the problem where they have like 00:41:24.250 --> 00:41:28.110 no We're talking about profits, surely. Cypher. 00:41:29.670 --> 00:41:31.630 That's a cop -out, that's a cop -out answer. 00:41:31.710 --> 00:41:34.449 Although, he's not chaos. He's not chaos, he's 00:41:34.449 --> 00:41:39.389 loyal. Can't sue him if you can't find him. I'd 00:41:39.389 --> 00:41:42.989 say, like, Harrowmaster Kassar, because he's 00:41:42.989 --> 00:41:44.650 done a quite good job of being like, oh, we're 00:41:44.650 --> 00:41:46.429 just going to stick it out. Man survived a duel 00:41:46.429 --> 00:41:48.409 with Khan the Betrayer, I feel like he's, and 00:41:48.409 --> 00:41:49.809 he's Alpha Legion, so he knows how to do, like, 00:41:49.829 --> 00:41:52.909 finances. I'd pick him. I would trust Fabi Spile. 00:41:54.139 --> 00:42:00.579 Maybe. Why? He's still a real one. If he believes 00:42:00.579 --> 00:42:04.179 in it, then he'll do the job. I'm going to do 00:42:04.179 --> 00:42:09.440 weird surgeries. Can I have two penises? Why 00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:13.420 not? It's an experiment. Fabius, no. Stop it. 00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:15.679 Stop it right. Look at this. This guy is not 00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:19.239 trustworthy. Yeah, that would be pretty good. 00:42:19.500 --> 00:42:23.230 I feel like it at Primark is also. too much to 00:42:23.230 --> 00:42:26.190 say, but poor travel would be good. Your average 00:42:26.190 --> 00:42:28.449 iron warrior would probably do a decent job. 00:42:28.929 --> 00:42:32.010 I'm going Egram Van Horseman from Fantasy, which 00:42:32.010 --> 00:42:37.090 is kind of cheating, but he was a light wizard. 00:42:37.369 --> 00:42:40.269 They're probably good at that shit. He has a 00:42:40.269 --> 00:42:43.309 dragon. He does. It has two heads. Two tails, 00:42:43.429 --> 00:42:47.889 Brutus. Holy moly. All right. Where were we? 00:42:48.630 --> 00:42:50.710 They beat Jish, beat the Eldar. That's right. 00:42:50.789 --> 00:42:52.809 We're 42 minutes in, and we're not even at the 00:42:52.809 --> 00:42:54.750 Horus Heresy. I should probably pick up the pace. 00:42:56.210 --> 00:42:58.110 They beat the Eldar. It was a good fight. The 00:42:58.110 --> 00:43:00.349 Eldar actually put up a good fight for once in 00:43:00.349 --> 00:43:04.030 the Horus Heresy, to their credit. Oh, Fulgrim 00:43:04.030 --> 00:43:07.690 also beats a Wraith Lord to death with his bare 00:43:07.690 --> 00:43:12.489 hands as well. That's cool. He like thrusts his 00:43:12.489 --> 00:43:14.570 hand into its face and takes a soul stone or 00:43:14.570 --> 00:43:17.050 whatever. Don't say thrust. Please don't say 00:43:17.050 --> 00:43:19.550 thrust. He's thrusting it. He's yorking it. Oh. 00:43:20.730 --> 00:43:25.869 Creaming. As Hal would say. They go back to the 00:43:25.869 --> 00:43:31.070 ship. I guess also sometime in this time, they 00:43:31.070 --> 00:43:33.190 do the fight that Hal was talking about that 00:43:33.190 --> 00:43:36.690 I still forgot about. And they fight the Diasprex 00:43:36.690 --> 00:43:39.739 before the mayor of Liglia II, don't they? They're 00:43:39.739 --> 00:43:43.780 not completely insane. Diasporas is just before 00:43:43.780 --> 00:43:48.179 the Eldrad meeting. It's not that much to it. 00:43:48.239 --> 00:43:52.360 It's kind of a like Fulgrim has just been I hate 00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:55.780 to say it, soaking in the corruption of the blade 00:43:55.780 --> 00:43:58.539 talking to him and the music. I know he was a 00:43:58.539 --> 00:44:03.099 Mormon. He meets up with Ferris and then Ferris 00:44:03.099 --> 00:44:05.719 kind of senses like something is... off with 00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:07.500 him and then they have a joint campaign where 00:44:07.500 --> 00:44:12.559 they hunt this proto -ships from Terra slash 00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:16.420 early Terran colonizing ships. But now there's 00:44:16.420 --> 00:44:18.980 aliens and humans in it. Imperium doesn't like 00:44:18.980 --> 00:44:21.840 it. They attack him because they won't forcibly 00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:26.300 join them. And then Fulgrim doesn't take it well 00:44:26.300 --> 00:44:30.440 that first of all his captain reached the headquarters 00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:34.480 of the ship first and also Ferris. swooped in 00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:37.599 and saved his life. So Fulgrim is not himself 00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:42.699 at this point. Yeah, it's unfortunate. But what 00:44:42.699 --> 00:44:49.519 are you going to do? Fulgrim's also around this 00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:54.260 time has a poop painting that one of the Remembrancers 00:44:54.260 --> 00:44:58.260 painted out of feces and the dissolving fluids 00:44:58.260 --> 00:45:04.500 of another Remembrancer. and he really he likes 00:45:04.500 --> 00:45:06.800 the painting but it's like making him go crazy 00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:09.800 and he doesn't really understand why and he's 00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:12.380 like distressed and really depressed and like 00:45:12.380 --> 00:45:15.900 actually going crazy and he has no idea why the 00:45:15.900 --> 00:45:19.380 sword keeps showing up in his hands somehow there 00:45:19.380 --> 00:45:22.699 is that is in there too oh the painting starts 00:45:22.699 --> 00:45:25.079 talking to him as well like Fulgrim I think he 00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:26.820 actually realizes like he thought he was going 00:45:26.820 --> 00:45:29.179 mad and now he's realizing something's talking 00:45:29.179 --> 00:45:31.639 to him yeah so he's like well it doesn't really 00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:34.980 matter it doesn't really matter uh at the around 00:45:34.980 --> 00:45:38.920 this time as well horace meets up with fulgrim 00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:43.079 and i've i've said on the channel a million times 00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:45.059 before but they're in they're hanging in the 00:45:45.059 --> 00:45:46.780 void the emperor's children fleet and the and 00:45:46.780 --> 00:45:50.179 horace's sleep and they're in the perfect spot 00:45:50.179 --> 00:45:52.960 to just blow up Horus's entire fleet right then 00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:55.460 and there. And Fulgrim is literally, he gets 00:45:55.460 --> 00:45:57.659 battle stations ready. He's about to press the 00:45:57.659 --> 00:45:59.800 big red button, and then Eidolon brings him his 00:45:59.800 --> 00:46:01.699 sword because the plot can't have that happen 00:46:01.699 --> 00:46:03.420 because the Horus Harrison needs to happen. And 00:46:03.420 --> 00:46:04.900 he grabs his sword, and then all of a sudden 00:46:04.900 --> 00:46:06.360 he doesn't want to do it anymore, and he has 00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:09.929 no idea what he was doing. stupid why why even 00:46:09.929 --> 00:46:13.150 why whatever sword sword is a plot device at 00:46:13.150 --> 00:46:14.949 the end of the day he's got accepted i guess 00:46:14.949 --> 00:46:17.389 so it's literally like that there baby have a 00:46:17.389 --> 00:46:20.650 piece of cheese yeah oh thanks yeah then he he 00:46:20.650 --> 00:46:26.150 meets up with horse uh and horse and arabus are 00:46:26.150 --> 00:46:29.130 being chilling giving fulgham an ice cream cone 00:46:29.130 --> 00:46:34.349 and telling him about the emperor being chilling 00:46:34.349 --> 00:46:38.829 made me think of ice cream uh horace tells fulgham 00:46:38.829 --> 00:46:40.789 about the emperor and why he's gonna like go 00:46:40.789 --> 00:46:43.070 to godhood and he abandoned them and blah blah 00:46:43.070 --> 00:46:45.869 blah uh i don't know if there's anything out 00:46:45.869 --> 00:46:47.909 other than that that's really important to mention 00:46:47.909 --> 00:46:51.630 i think horace just basically gets across the 00:46:51.630 --> 00:46:53.309 point like you know you thought the emperor was 00:46:53.309 --> 00:46:56.610 like the height of perfection nah he's actually 00:46:56.610 --> 00:47:00.150 holding you back there's a perfection called 00:47:00.150 --> 00:47:02.610 there's beyond that called this thing chaos that 00:47:02.610 --> 00:47:05.659 can help you find it and the emperor didn't tell 00:47:05.659 --> 00:47:08.219 you the emperor didn't tell you about it because 00:47:08.219 --> 00:47:10.980 he wants because you're gonna be dead in the 00:47:10.980 --> 00:47:13.840 future you're not in the future i saw you you 00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:16.039 die while all the other primates or is literally 00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:19.059 being going like hey fulgrim phoenix coin it's 00:47:19.059 --> 00:47:22.519 going to go to the moon trust me bro no rug pull 00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:24.800 just go for it it's fine keep going keep going 00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:28.820 it's fine infinite profit five extra inches let's 00:47:28.820 --> 00:47:38.690 go But Fulgrim and Horace, Horace is like Fulgrim's 00:47:38.690 --> 00:47:41.610 second best friend. So he kind of believes him. 00:47:42.550 --> 00:47:45.030 He's still skeptical though for a long time and 00:47:45.030 --> 00:47:48.409 then he finally just completely gives in. I think 00:47:48.409 --> 00:47:51.110 it's days. It takes three full days of talking 00:47:51.110 --> 00:47:53.329 and then Fulgrim's like crying at the end of 00:47:53.329 --> 00:47:56.030 it. Yeah, Fulgrim did not fall easily and he 00:47:56.030 --> 00:47:57.510 didn't even have a choice to fall in the first 00:47:57.510 --> 00:47:59.849 place. It's really freaking lame. But whatever. 00:48:00.050 --> 00:48:01.690 So he goes back to the ship and he tells, he 00:48:01.690 --> 00:48:04.949 told Horace, um, Ferris will join us. I'm his 00:48:04.949 --> 00:48:08.309 best friend. I'll convince Ferris that, uh, this 00:48:08.309 --> 00:48:10.670 is the right thing to do. So he meets up with 00:48:10.670 --> 00:48:14.429 Ferris. Um, the Mary Viglia still hasn't happened 00:48:14.429 --> 00:48:17.110 at this point, right? It's right after this. 00:48:17.269 --> 00:48:21.510 Yes. He meets up with Ferris, um, and the Emperor's 00:48:21.510 --> 00:48:23.610 children are kind of parlaying, but he's... Told 00:48:23.610 --> 00:48:27.130 his sons to kill all the iron hands around if 00:48:27.130 --> 00:48:30.289 this goes sideways. Which, unsurprisingly, it 00:48:30.289 --> 00:48:34.269 does. He talks to Ferris. Ferris isn't buying 00:48:34.269 --> 00:48:38.349 it. It's an extremely emotional fight. I can't 00:48:38.349 --> 00:48:42.889 read it without getting very emotional. Fulgrim 00:48:42.889 --> 00:48:50.250 and Ferris fight. Fulgrim beats Ferris. Fulgrim 00:48:50.250 --> 00:48:54.320 beats off Ferris? Okay. uh the forum lived with 00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:56.219 like it's when the emperor left us it was the 00:48:56.219 --> 00:48:57.900 most it was the second most heartbreaking thing 00:48:57.900 --> 00:49:00.079 i've ever experienced in phrases what does that 00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:01.659 mean and he said the first most heartbreaking 00:49:01.659 --> 00:49:03.699 is that the emperor is actually a really bad 00:49:03.699 --> 00:49:05.780 guy and he's gonna turn into a god and ferris 00:49:05.780 --> 00:49:07.679 is like what the heck are you talking about this 00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:10.380 doesn't make any sense then they fight uh ferris 00:49:10.380 --> 00:49:15.300 explodes fireblade which is symbolic uh at the 00:49:15.300 --> 00:49:17.519 time fulham's like always dead to me but then 00:49:17.519 --> 00:49:21.000 a moment later He raises Forgebreaker and he's 00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:23.159 about to kill Ferris and the Layer Blade is screaming 00:49:23.159 --> 00:49:26.199 in his mind to kill him. Then he remembers he 00:49:26.199 --> 00:49:30.139 has a flashback. This is the one thing he didn't 00:49:30.139 --> 00:49:32.340 take the Layer Blade with him because he thought 00:49:32.340 --> 00:49:34.900 Ferris would see it and think it was weird he 00:49:34.900 --> 00:49:37.159 had a Xenos Blade. The corruption is already 00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:40.400 in his head so he hears this distant voice screaming 00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:43.579 at him to kill Ferris Manus. They give him an 00:49:43.579 --> 00:49:47.159 STD. He's already infected. The memories of their 00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:51.409 brotherhood And friendship, though, was so powerful 00:49:51.409 --> 00:49:53.949 that it overcame the evil of the demon in that 00:49:53.949 --> 00:49:57.010 moment, and he just knocked Ferris out. It's 00:49:57.010 --> 00:50:00.010 really sad. Fulgrim says, like, you were my brother, 00:50:00.110 --> 00:50:03.030 Ferris. I would have walked to death with you. 00:50:03.090 --> 00:50:05.010 Why could you not have done the same for me? 00:50:05.349 --> 00:50:09.090 Ferris says, I am not your brother. Fulgrim says, 00:50:09.230 --> 00:50:12.989 you will always be my brother, and then knocks 00:50:12.989 --> 00:50:15.630 him out. It's very, very sad. Then they leave. 00:50:15.670 --> 00:50:18.800 They kill some Ironhands. the meraviglia happens 00:50:18.800 --> 00:50:20.960 which is the big symphony and that's the zenith 00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:22.780 of the corruption there's no going back from 00:50:22.780 --> 00:50:24.360 that point there's no going back from the stupid 00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:26.340 layer temple in the first place but now it's 00:50:26.340 --> 00:50:29.039 really bad uh the symphony happens there's noise 00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:31.280 marines playing instruments there demons are 00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:33.539 summoned all the remembrances basically are killed 00:50:33.539 --> 00:50:39.019 and now we're now we're on silencio's side hooray 00:50:39.019 --> 00:50:41.880 the legion was split as well so the ones that 00:50:41.880 --> 00:50:46.579 whoa were deemed loyal to the emperor were shooed 00:50:46.579 --> 00:50:52.079 away to istvan uh three yeah that is true and 00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:54.599 then his fan three happens goodbye andy have 00:50:54.599 --> 00:51:00.159 fun um his fan three happens and it's the same 00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:02.500 story as everyone else's there's a part where 00:51:02.500 --> 00:51:06.079 uh there's a group of ember's children fighting 00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:09.420 they're desperate and then lucis shows up and 00:51:09.420 --> 00:51:11.880 this guy with like a million scars on his face 00:51:11.880 --> 00:51:14.820 who looks insane they say oh thank goodness lucius 00:51:14.820 --> 00:51:17.800 is here and then lucius 1v20s and kills all of 00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:22.079 them uh because he's literally the goat and then 00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:23.860 that's his fan base i don't know if there's really 00:51:23.860 --> 00:51:25.739 anything special to say about his fan other than 00:51:25.739 --> 00:51:28.900 everyone dies um except for the soul targets 00:51:28.900 --> 00:51:32.880 live i feel like you know this is that's the 00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:34.980 moment of it which one is the one who lives and 00:51:34.980 --> 00:51:38.500 takes the thunder hawk to go talk to the uh Sons 00:51:38.500 --> 00:51:41.559 of Horus. There is one who does that, isn't there? 00:51:41.880 --> 00:51:44.460 There totally is. I don't remember who it is, 00:51:44.500 --> 00:51:47.179 though. I don't know. The parts I remember is, 00:51:47.199 --> 00:51:49.480 like, at this point, all, like, the previous 00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:53.639 Legion heroes who are, like, kind of seen as, 00:51:53.639 --> 00:51:55.860 like, oh, they're, you know, the one, you know, 00:51:55.860 --> 00:51:57.780 the actual outstanding Emperor's children who 00:51:57.780 --> 00:52:02.599 are loyal and good. Yeah, Tarvit, Solomon, other 00:52:02.599 --> 00:52:05.969 characters, they... they they get massacred by 00:52:05.969 --> 00:52:09.130 their own friends here and it's you know whatever 00:52:09.130 --> 00:52:11.650 nobility was of the emperor's children that you 00:52:11.650 --> 00:52:13.849 know that one that started off in the early great 00:52:13.849 --> 00:52:16.690 crusade has basically been murdered over you 00:52:16.690 --> 00:52:19.289 know over months it's slowly there's a there's 00:52:19.289 --> 00:52:21.289 a riff growing over months and now it's like 00:52:21.289 --> 00:52:25.849 finally cut uh djb sent me the picture of chinese 00:52:25.849 --> 00:52:30.730 patrick with ice cream thank you for that um 00:52:30.730 --> 00:52:35.440 yeah people are Talking about Rylenor in chat, 00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:39.980 yeah, Rylenor the Ancient is entombed on Istvan. 00:52:40.300 --> 00:52:44.800 A hero of the Legion. He went off to do some 00:52:44.800 --> 00:52:46.820 secret mission because he was also betrayed, 00:52:47.019 --> 00:52:50.139 but we haven't seen him. He's somehow missing 00:52:50.139 --> 00:52:53.079 at the moment. Yeah, he comes up later, in a 00:52:53.079 --> 00:52:56.739 little moment. Okay, so Istvan happens. That 00:52:56.739 --> 00:53:01.920 was Istvan 3, and then we moved to Istvan 5. 00:53:02.760 --> 00:53:06.679 Correct? It's not four, it's five. Is there anything 00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:10.480 important in between those two conflicts? I think 00:53:10.480 --> 00:53:16.139 the Emperor's children, lore -wise, start kissing 00:53:16.139 --> 00:53:23.300 one another. Not even a joke. I vividly remember 00:53:23.300 --> 00:53:25.559 there was a bit where, I don't know if it's this 00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:29.480 bit specifically, but it's implied. that fulgrim 00:53:29.480 --> 00:53:31.940 might have had like a sexual experience with 00:53:31.940 --> 00:53:34.820 lucius and some others and he mentions it in 00:53:34.820 --> 00:53:38.079 a passage somewhere and i'm like ew ew you're 00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:41.860 not talking about swordsmanship that was a double 00:53:41.860 --> 00:53:44.900 entendre what are you doing ew leave him alone 00:53:44.900 --> 00:53:56.550 it's just a game of thrones We don't know where 00:53:56.550 --> 00:53:59.469 it is. It's laid on pretty thick. They had the 00:53:59.469 --> 00:54:04.070 Merovingio performance thing slash demons appeared 00:54:04.070 --> 00:54:06.809 and all that good stuff. So they're openly worshipped. 00:54:07.050 --> 00:54:11.469 Not yet. That's after. I'm pretty sure that's 00:54:11.469 --> 00:54:16.389 after. Imagine the most degenerate society you 00:54:16.389 --> 00:54:18.190 could think of and that's the Emperor's Children 00:54:18.190 --> 00:54:21.230 right now. Their flagship is just crazy. It's 00:54:21.230 --> 00:54:25.519 like a extreme parody of Fulgrim's perfect society 00:54:25.519 --> 00:54:28.940 of culture and arts and stuff it sucks everything 00:54:28.940 --> 00:54:31.539 sucks there's absolutely no going back for them 00:54:31.539 --> 00:54:34.960 not even remotely i don't know if i've ever read 00:54:34.960 --> 00:54:38.239 about a single emperor's children like regretting 00:54:38.239 --> 00:54:41.860 anything or figuring out going back to the light 00:54:41.860 --> 00:54:46.460 uh but that rarely happens anyways to to be fair 00:54:46.460 --> 00:54:48.199 there's a lot of buyer's remorse in one of the 00:54:48.199 --> 00:54:50.000 fabulous file books where he's got clone grim 00:54:50.440 --> 00:54:52.519 And they're all like, ah, we used to be like 00:54:52.519 --> 00:54:54.400 an actual Legion. That is true. That is true. 00:54:54.500 --> 00:54:56.480 Clone Grimm could have saved it, but Fabius is 00:54:56.480 --> 00:54:59.619 a jerk. So what are you going to do? But that's 00:54:59.619 --> 00:55:03.920 10 ,000 years in the future from now. Istvan 00:55:03.920 --> 00:55:08.340 V. We all know the story of Istvan V. The Raven 00:55:08.340 --> 00:55:11.179 Guard, Salamanders, and Iron Hands are the loyalists 00:55:11.179 --> 00:55:12.980 on the planet. They are accompanied by the Night 00:55:12.980 --> 00:55:14.920 Lords, the Word Bears, the Iron Warriors, and 00:55:14.920 --> 00:55:17.840 the Alpha Legion. And they are being sent to 00:55:17.840 --> 00:55:20.880 go fight the Emperor's children. uh sons of horus 00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:24.960 and world leaders is that right and death god 00:55:24.960 --> 00:55:28.079 and death oh well basically you got the originals 00:55:28.079 --> 00:55:30.219 from history so you got like sons of horus death 00:55:30.219 --> 00:55:34.480 guard world eaters and um and then there's a 00:55:34.480 --> 00:55:37.039 bunch of reinforcements of alpha legion knight 00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:42.159 lords iron warriors and then see the order 66 00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:44.780 moment where the reinforcements kill everyone 00:55:44.780 --> 00:55:48.159 there the actual the real like known traders 00:55:48.159 --> 00:55:51.070 are in the front and they You know, do the thing. 00:55:51.210 --> 00:55:54.250 Varys gets really angry when he sees Fulgrim. 00:55:54.309 --> 00:55:57.110 He runs ahead of everyone, goes to fight Fulgrim, 00:55:57.190 --> 00:56:03.150 and sad things happen. It's a very brutal fight. 00:56:03.289 --> 00:56:05.449 Varys actually almost beats Fulgrim, because 00:56:05.449 --> 00:56:08.250 he's very angry, and Fulgrim also kind of has 00:56:08.250 --> 00:56:10.050 a moment of like, I don't want to do this, but 00:56:10.050 --> 00:56:12.150 then the sword invigorates him with demon power, 00:56:12.309 --> 00:56:15.969 and he chops off Varys' head, and at this point, 00:56:16.010 --> 00:56:20.309 Fulgrim is overcome with grief. like takes away 00:56:20.309 --> 00:56:21.809 all the corruption that it was putting it in 00:56:21.809 --> 00:56:24.929 him and lets him see things clearly and he just 00:56:24.929 --> 00:56:27.670 gives up in this moment because it's like he 00:56:27.670 --> 00:56:30.510 cannot believe what he did it's literally rock 00:56:30.510 --> 00:56:32.670 bottom he just killed his best friend in the 00:56:32.670 --> 00:56:36.949 world um and at this point the demon possesses 00:56:36.949 --> 00:56:39.650 fulgrim the demon in the lair blade possesses 00:56:39.650 --> 00:56:45.210 him and takes over his body and horace yeah uh 00:56:45.210 --> 00:56:48.559 horace even knows this when The demon goes and 00:56:48.559 --> 00:56:50.860 talks to Horus, but Horus is, I don't think Horus 00:56:50.860 --> 00:56:52.840 really cares if I remember correctly. He goes 00:56:52.840 --> 00:56:55.340 and brings Horus Ferris' head and there's that. 00:56:55.980 --> 00:56:58.679 There's like a weird also thing of like, at this 00:56:58.679 --> 00:57:02.739 point, Horus is a bit concerned because after 00:57:02.739 --> 00:57:05.480 the battle, Fulgrim racks him and is like, I 00:57:05.480 --> 00:57:07.719 had a great time. He's like, that's not Fulgrim. 00:57:07.840 --> 00:57:11.139 And it's like, I think it's Lorgar's like, oh 00:57:11.139 --> 00:57:14.079 yeah, like. There's a demon in there. That's 00:57:14.079 --> 00:57:16.460 not Fulgrim. And Fulgrim's in the body just like, 00:57:16.579 --> 00:57:20.760 ah, let me out. But then Horus is like, you're 00:57:20.760 --> 00:57:25.239 a tool. You're a means to an end. I'll let him 00:57:25.239 --> 00:57:28.139 fester in that position. It's fine. They make 00:57:28.139 --> 00:57:30.239 a deal where it's like, hey, if you just do what 00:57:30.239 --> 00:57:33.300 I want, if you do what I want, the demon literally 00:57:33.300 --> 00:57:35.380 is like, hey, Horus, I'll do what you want. Just 00:57:35.380 --> 00:57:39.500 don't try to exercise me. And he's like, I'll 00:57:39.500 --> 00:57:43.679 allow it. how it goes yeah the demon does brag 00:57:43.679 --> 00:57:46.460 though because it says like it says to him like 00:57:46.460 --> 00:57:48.300 you he says you know fulgrim would never would 00:57:48.300 --> 00:57:51.659 have turned unless i was literally like pushing 00:57:51.659 --> 00:57:53.179 him even when you were talking to me so that 00:57:53.179 --> 00:57:55.920 i literally had to it was about the inside of 00:57:55.920 --> 00:58:01.639 him he like he literally said like he was about 00:58:01.639 --> 00:58:06.199 to turn on you but i you know i i had to i give 00:58:06.199 --> 00:58:09.219 you an assist so you owe me so he was like okay 00:58:11.579 --> 00:58:14.400 i wanted to be clear to chat into the world that 00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:17.039 fulgrim was literally mind controlled and did 00:58:17.039 --> 00:58:20.000 not even get did not have any choice in becoming 00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:23.280 a traitor and it sucks but it is what it is um 00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:27.639 you know uh so that happens and then there's 00:58:27.639 --> 00:58:29.500 even the thing to be said about horus being mind 00:58:29.500 --> 00:58:31.719 controlled like chaos weird yeah let's be weird 00:58:31.719 --> 00:58:35.159 but horus had a chance to it's not with with 00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:38.920 the emperor and stuff but ever since darvin he 00:58:38.920 --> 00:58:40.840 was like trapped in the warp fighting for his 00:58:41.610 --> 00:58:43.869 life and then he came back and he's like nah 00:58:43.869 --> 00:58:47.389 i'm fine with it like what really okay yeah plot 00:58:47.389 --> 00:58:50.630 isn't always strong in the horse heresy we'll 00:58:50.630 --> 00:58:53.690 be honest i think it's meant to imply like horace 00:58:53.690 --> 00:58:57.150 says like listen i'm not choosing emperor or 00:58:57.150 --> 00:59:00.889 chaos But I will in fact use chaos. I'm going 00:59:00.889 --> 00:59:03.670 to use chaos for my own ends and not corrupt 00:59:03.670 --> 00:59:06.809 it. He'll dethrone the Emperor to prevent the 00:59:06.809 --> 00:59:08.889 grimdark future, supposedly, and then he'll become 00:59:08.889 --> 00:59:11.130 the master of mankind. And he's willing to use 00:59:11.130 --> 00:59:14.190 chaos to do it. I'm going to escape the Matrix 00:59:14.190 --> 00:59:19.829 and get ten Bugattis. Horrors of delusion. Yeah. 00:59:20.949 --> 00:59:25.489 This is what it is. Then, after this happens, 00:59:25.590 --> 00:59:28.730 we have the reflection cracked. uh story which 00:59:28.730 --> 00:59:32.590 my 10 year old self was it's very confusing to 00:59:32.590 --> 00:59:35.289 read as a child i was having a very hard time 00:59:35.289 --> 00:59:37.929 comprehending that book um because it doesn't 00:59:37.929 --> 00:59:42.130 what i remember reading it 10 years ago i was 00:59:42.130 --> 00:59:44.429 really hard to tell if they actually saved fulgrim 00:59:44.429 --> 00:59:48.090 or not um there's there's a back and forth where 00:59:48.090 --> 00:59:51.369 um in the story like the emperor's children are 00:59:51.369 --> 00:59:52.969 basically saying they're just because the horus 00:59:52.969 --> 00:59:55.769 heresy is in full lock warp storms are like everywhere 00:59:56.650 --> 00:59:59.130 and the emperor's children are like attacking 00:59:59.130 --> 01:00:02.610 planets and then they attack some and they think 01:00:02.610 --> 01:00:05.449 even the emperor's children start to think this 01:00:05.449 --> 01:00:08.989 doesn't seem like to make any tactical sense 01:00:08.989 --> 01:00:11.210 even in the state they are now and they think 01:00:11.210 --> 01:00:13.710 fulgrim is like his movements are a bit weak 01:00:13.710 --> 01:00:18.489 and he's changed somehow he seems even more vain 01:00:18.489 --> 01:00:21.250 and horrific and there's like parts where like 01:00:21.250 --> 01:00:23.989 he speaks to fulgrim speaks like reflections 01:00:23.989 --> 01:00:26.309 and it's trying to imply like you can't tell 01:00:26.309 --> 01:00:31.150 is the demon still possessing fulgrim or has 01:00:31.150 --> 01:00:33.150 fulgrim taken back his form and then the demon 01:00:33.150 --> 01:00:34.969 is like trying to harass him and it shows him 01:00:34.969 --> 01:00:38.250 like images of ferris and it's a bit all over 01:00:38.250 --> 01:00:40.690 the place in terms of like it's like a mystery 01:00:40.690 --> 01:00:46.429 of like who's actually fulgrim And then my favorite 01:00:46.429 --> 01:00:48.230 part of Emperor's Children lore is that like 01:00:48.230 --> 01:00:51.369 Julius Caesar on the first captain, Fabius Bile, 01:00:51.510 --> 01:00:54.130 Marius Fivosian, Lucius, they're like, we're 01:00:54.130 --> 01:00:56.130 going to stage an intervention. Like, really? 01:00:56.349 --> 01:01:00.289 Okay. Go for it then. Emperor's Children. They 01:01:00.289 --> 01:01:05.949 somehow exercise the demon by causing pain to 01:01:05.949 --> 01:01:09.949 form them. It's a weird one. What's the beam? 01:01:10.030 --> 01:01:13.989 It's like, I want 50 men. The thing is, they 01:01:13.989 --> 01:01:16.250 like kind of. They tie him down on the table, 01:01:16.349 --> 01:01:18.590 which is not sus at all. But the thing is, the 01:01:18.590 --> 01:01:21.130 plot twist is that Fulgrim is like, oh, actually, 01:01:21.130 --> 01:01:24.650 I was waiting for the opportune time all along. 01:01:24.769 --> 01:01:27.090 I was waiting so I could understand chaos intimately 01:01:27.090 --> 01:01:30.750 by being right inside of it. And now you've kind 01:01:30.750 --> 01:01:32.650 of forced my hand, and now I have to retake my 01:01:32.650 --> 01:01:35.170 body because I was in control all along. And 01:01:35.170 --> 01:01:37.869 actually, the demon wasn't shit. So actually, 01:01:38.030 --> 01:01:40.590 you guys, I don't mind that you got me out. It 01:01:40.590 --> 01:01:44.590 was a bit of a... drag uh but yeah thanks fabius 01:01:44.590 --> 01:01:48.030 i love you there's a i i do find it difficult 01:01:48.030 --> 01:01:50.349 because a lot i'm sure even with a lot of empress 01:01:50.349 --> 01:01:52.829 children fans find this bit like quite annoying 01:01:52.829 --> 01:01:56.050 because it doesn't come across really well like 01:01:56.050 --> 01:01:59.849 what they imply like the demon says i know i 01:01:59.849 --> 01:02:03.010 have every single memory of fulgrim because i 01:02:03.010 --> 01:02:06.289 possessed you like i know you and then fulgrim 01:02:06.289 --> 01:02:10.949 is implying back like oh but you realized i have 01:02:10.949 --> 01:02:14.789 every memory of you now so essentially i in my 01:02:14.789 --> 01:02:17.869 head canon i assume that means then fulgham essentially 01:02:17.869 --> 01:02:21.809 the only way to basically retake his body which 01:02:21.809 --> 01:02:23.909 he was trapped inside the painting that eli described 01:02:23.909 --> 01:02:28.550 earlier in um the pride in the lafanis um theater 01:02:28.550 --> 01:02:30.989 where all the crazy stuff happened it implies 01:02:30.989 --> 01:02:34.510 like fulgrim basically had to become like a like 01:02:34.510 --> 01:02:37.219 he had to do a log or like magnus or other ones 01:02:37.219 --> 01:02:39.440 did they had to learn of like demon craft and 01:02:39.440 --> 01:02:42.480 i i assume he's kind of trapped in like a suneshi 01:02:42.480 --> 01:02:45.500 realm thing i don't know otherwise how the painting 01:02:45.500 --> 01:02:50.000 work um and then he basically is corrupted over 01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:52.699 a few months inside the painting and then he 01:02:52.699 --> 01:02:56.500 switches places but because he's such a bastard 01:02:56.500 --> 01:03:00.280 and like the whole point is like he is utterly 01:03:00.280 --> 01:03:03.510 like selfish and you know he's a worse version 01:03:03.510 --> 01:03:05.829 of himself now he decides like it's actually 01:03:05.829 --> 01:03:07.969 fun just to mess like he actually doesn't have 01:03:07.969 --> 01:03:11.309 an interest in winning a war anymore he just 01:03:11.309 --> 01:03:13.789 wants to do funny stuff and have fun and experience 01:03:13.789 --> 01:03:16.650 things so he messes with his sons being like 01:03:16.650 --> 01:03:18.590 oh you know i wonder if they still think i'm 01:03:18.590 --> 01:03:20.710 the demon so while they're torturing him he's 01:03:20.710 --> 01:03:23.010 literally screaming like oh this is so painful 01:03:23.010 --> 01:03:27.150 i love it keep going like he's it's such a contradiction 01:03:27.150 --> 01:03:30.880 and then when he's supposedly like Was it when 01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:33.519 Fabius is like testing his DNA and he's like 01:03:33.519 --> 01:03:36.579 saying his DNA has changed. He's something is 01:03:36.579 --> 01:03:38.760 happening to him. And then Luce is like, you 01:03:38.760 --> 01:03:41.019 know, get that motherfucker, you know, something's 01:03:41.019 --> 01:03:43.820 wrong with him. And then Fabius like looks him 01:03:43.820 --> 01:03:46.420 in the eye. Fabius looks Fulgrim in the eye and 01:03:46.420 --> 01:03:49.679 Pezzi goes like, oh, and then Fulgrim just stops 01:03:49.679 --> 01:03:51.500 playing. He just stands up and gets out all of 01:03:51.500 --> 01:03:53.260 like, gets out of the restraints and being like, 01:03:53.400 --> 01:03:56.710 yeah. I was playing a game the whole time. I'm 01:03:56.710 --> 01:03:58.590 just having fun. In fact, you guys should be, 01:03:58.610 --> 01:04:01.070 you should have clocked on earlier because you 01:04:01.070 --> 01:04:03.710 should be better and more perfect. Fulgrim literally 01:04:03.710 --> 01:04:05.710 on the light table with the restraining stuff 01:04:05.710 --> 01:04:10.610 is like, no, keep going. It's like, no, stop 01:04:10.610 --> 01:04:15.889 it. It should have been a full novel. Honestly, 01:04:16.090 --> 01:04:18.130 it's a bit too much for a short story. It should 01:04:18.130 --> 01:04:22.679 have been a bit more. Yeah. like it was early 01:04:22.679 --> 01:04:25.699 on writing so i don't i give them like again 01:04:25.699 --> 01:04:28.679 if it was only 12 or something 10 books it wouldn't 01:04:28.679 --> 01:04:31.840 it would be fine yeah but it was 50 books yeah 01:04:31.840 --> 01:04:35.980 they did they could have done a lot of better 01:04:35.980 --> 01:04:38.860 job if they had hindsight but that's how it is 01:04:38.860 --> 01:04:44.239 yeah so yeah um around this time fulcrum also 01:04:44.239 --> 01:04:47.710 decapitates fabius I don't even remember why, 01:04:47.849 --> 01:04:50.250 he just got angry at him and popped his head 01:04:50.250 --> 01:04:53.789 off. Eidolon. Eidolon. Fabius fixes Eidolon. 01:04:54.070 --> 01:04:55.969 Eidolon questions his orders, and he's like, 01:04:56.030 --> 01:04:58.550 who are you to judge? And then they drink his 01:04:58.550 --> 01:05:00.829 blood for fun. He, like, pours it in there like 01:05:00.829 --> 01:05:03.889 goblets. Why not? And they're like, let's drink 01:05:03.889 --> 01:05:05.349 our brother's blood. And they're like, okay. 01:05:05.949 --> 01:05:07.730 Like, peer pressure is a big thing in Warhammer. 01:05:08.170 --> 01:05:12.610 You heard it here. And then, but Fabius keeps... 01:05:13.070 --> 01:05:15.150 uh i don't learn alive because he's fabulous 01:05:15.150 --> 01:05:18.130 and he i don't know how he just does it he's 01:05:18.130 --> 01:05:23.230 the goat i guess and now uh fulgrim and protorabo 01:05:23.230 --> 01:05:26.150 are hanging out before the siege of terra and 01:05:26.150 --> 01:05:31.230 it's angel exterminatus book um they're actually 01:05:31.230 --> 01:05:34.230 pretty good friends uh i actually like it's surprising 01:05:34.230 --> 01:05:38.070 protrabo and fulgrim get along pretty well you 01:05:38.070 --> 01:05:43.090 also have uh Is that his name? Charakin? Nikona 01:05:43.090 --> 01:05:45.110 Charakin? Something like that. Nikona Charakin. 01:05:45.409 --> 01:05:48.610 Shoots this bish in the face and it's so good. 01:05:49.130 --> 01:05:55.449 Oh, yeah. He's a bit of a... He's... Gary Sue? 01:05:55.710 --> 01:05:58.670 Is that what they call him? He's the Bourne Ultimatum 01:05:58.670 --> 01:06:02.230 of Warhammer. He's a bit of a Gary Stu. He can 01:06:02.230 --> 01:06:04.929 just do everything and is the best at everything. 01:06:05.969 --> 01:06:10.030 I don't know. I like him in Weyland. He's cool. 01:06:10.210 --> 01:06:12.639 To be fair, he snipes him in the head and even 01:06:12.639 --> 01:06:14.760 though he shoots him like in the eyeball and 01:06:14.760 --> 01:06:17.639 it goes around his brain fulgrim survives because 01:06:17.639 --> 01:06:20.480 thick skull and primarch stuff you know ah you 01:06:20.480 --> 01:06:26.139 yeah actually richard was actually like sad when 01:06:26.139 --> 01:06:28.760 fulgrim goes down and he like carries him and 01:06:28.760 --> 01:06:31.940 uh it's a big deal that's a big deal but it's 01:06:31.940 --> 01:06:46.010 gremlin in the corner gremlin hey the cover of 01:06:46.010 --> 01:06:49.070 angel exterminatus the book which is a little 01:06:49.070 --> 01:06:53.670 bit strange uh looks a bit odd in there a bit 01:06:53.670 --> 01:06:57.429 bit odd in it yeah angel exterminatus from what 01:06:57.429 --> 01:07:00.059 i remember reading it many many years ago It's 01:07:00.059 --> 01:07:03.539 basically Fulgrim baiting Pertrabo to this planet 01:07:03.539 --> 01:07:06.280 while Sherekin advances the plot the entire time 01:07:06.280 --> 01:07:09.139 because he can do literally everything. And then 01:07:09.139 --> 01:07:13.659 there is... They go to this Eldar planet and 01:07:13.659 --> 01:07:16.079 they kill a bunch of wraiths. In the Eye of Terror. 01:07:16.489 --> 01:07:20.030 Yeah, it's the usual Eldar suspects of getting 01:07:20.030 --> 01:07:23.289 obliterated. They were. Everyone who wasn't a 01:07:23.289 --> 01:07:26.909 Primarch was having a bad day. Well, isn't the 01:07:26.909 --> 01:07:29.289 whole thing that the site they're at is where 01:07:29.289 --> 01:07:32.869 Slaanesh was... It's the fulcrum to where Slaanesh 01:07:32.869 --> 01:07:35.989 was born. So, Pardaraba doesn't know this, but 01:07:35.989 --> 01:07:37.670 the reason they're going there is because it's 01:07:37.670 --> 01:07:43.250 like a place of power in Skyrim. go there and 01:07:43.250 --> 01:07:49.030 you can be like oh yeah and so fulgrim brings 01:07:49.030 --> 01:07:50.829 perch rabble to this place just to kind of get 01:07:50.829 --> 01:07:54.269 him inside and he goes to the center where this 01:07:54.269 --> 01:07:57.070 big thing of power is and starts gooning he starts 01:07:57.070 --> 01:08:01.190 straight jorking it and perch rabble's like are 01:08:01.190 --> 01:08:04.150 you kidding me and just whacks them in the face 01:08:04.150 --> 01:08:07.050 and knocks them out but it doesn't matter the 01:08:07.050 --> 01:08:09.250 transformation still happens it's a little fuzzy 01:08:09.250 --> 01:08:12.599 in my head Well, it's basically that it's not 01:08:12.599 --> 01:08:15.000 just a place of power. He also needed a Primarch 01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:19.119 as like a conduit to fuel the apotheosis of his 01:08:19.119 --> 01:08:21.079 forms. Like if you didn't go with Perturabo, 01:08:21.220 --> 01:08:24.619 it would work. So he actually draws strength 01:08:24.619 --> 01:08:27.979 from Perturabo to fuel the ritual. And you needed 01:08:27.979 --> 01:08:30.319 like a Primarch to do that. So it's like from 01:08:30.319 --> 01:08:33.319 the get -go, not a very brotherly thing to do. 01:08:33.399 --> 01:08:36.800 It was also that the planet itself was, it's 01:08:36.800 --> 01:08:40.270 a tomb. It was like a hollow planet. where there's 01:08:40.270 --> 01:08:43.850 a fortress above which they basically enter. 01:08:44.329 --> 01:08:49.109 Fulgrim runs ahead by himself on all fours. Like 01:08:49.109 --> 01:08:54.449 me on Dota 2. Fulgrim ran ahead and he realized 01:08:54.449 --> 01:08:58.989 where they are it's a graveyard but it's an Eldar 01:08:58.989 --> 01:09:01.710 graveyard so it's not tombstone or anything. 01:09:01.970 --> 01:09:07.850 There's like millions of Eldar the stones what 01:09:07.850 --> 01:09:11.109 are they called again? Spirit stones? Millions 01:09:11.109 --> 01:09:14.430 of spirit stones. And they channel into the hollow 01:09:14.430 --> 01:09:18.869 planet, into this sort of... You know when Darth 01:09:18.869 --> 01:09:22.109 Maul fights Qui -Gon and Obi -Wan, there's huge 01:09:22.109 --> 01:09:24.390 pillars of light. Kind of has a huge pillar of 01:09:24.390 --> 01:09:27.250 light in this planet. And then Fulgrim, with 01:09:27.250 --> 01:09:30.250 the power of... He gave poetry early in the book, 01:09:30.350 --> 01:09:32.329 something called the Mowjator Stone, which is 01:09:32.329 --> 01:09:35.189 a stone... It was a gift with a cloak on it. 01:09:35.420 --> 01:09:38.220 And then the stone's been draining Persharabo's 01:09:38.220 --> 01:09:41.600 life energy. That, along with the Eldar sacrifices 01:09:41.600 --> 01:09:45.720 and Fulgrim's body transforming, as Fabius stated 01:09:45.720 --> 01:09:48.720 in the stuff earlier, Fulgrim was ready to do 01:09:48.720 --> 01:09:52.899 something big. Take away, if ever Bra gives you 01:09:52.899 --> 01:09:54.680 something as a gift, always assume it's going 01:09:54.680 --> 01:09:56.579 to drain your life force, and so don't accept 01:09:56.579 --> 01:10:02.310 it. Fulgrim's a real jerk at this point. uh her 01:10:02.310 --> 01:10:04.609 travels like actually being nice to him is actually 01:10:04.609 --> 01:10:06.529 like being buddy he's not hitting him over the 01:10:06.529 --> 01:10:08.149 head with his hammer to be fair there's one point 01:10:08.149 --> 01:10:11.829 he's like i'm in charge and this whole time olgram's 01:10:11.829 --> 01:10:15.250 just been sucking the life out of him and using 01:10:15.250 --> 01:10:19.010 him it's it's beautiful edging him this whole 01:10:19.010 --> 01:10:24.170 time to be fair pers robo did he beat fulgrim 01:10:24.170 --> 01:10:26.609 up in the book because the emperor's children 01:10:26.609 --> 01:10:29.369 kept inviting iron warriors over to their ship 01:10:29.369 --> 01:10:31.869 and like slowly corrupting them like this is 01:10:31.869 --> 01:10:36.229 wine made from the tears of the innocent that's 01:10:36.229 --> 01:10:38.350 a good reason to beat someone up i'm just gonna 01:10:38.350 --> 01:10:41.850 say it literally he is like this is a clock made 01:10:41.850 --> 01:10:45.609 by um a vulcan and then fulgham's like oh you 01:10:45.609 --> 01:10:47.010 know that sounds interesting you're like yeah 01:10:47.010 --> 01:10:48.789 look at it look at it and he starts beating him 01:10:48.789 --> 01:10:52.069 on the head to be fair the whole The whole point 01:10:52.069 --> 01:10:54.050 of their disagreement is Fulgrim is literally 01:10:54.050 --> 01:10:57.210 like, you're basic. You're a basic bitch. You're 01:10:57.210 --> 01:10:59.390 not in charge. You're not the Warmaster. You're 01:10:59.390 --> 01:11:01.569 basic. And then he's like, well, I've got a hammer. 01:11:02.010 --> 01:11:05.350 Yeah, Perch Rabbit is a classic putting the Chaos 01:11:05.350 --> 01:11:08.250 Primarch in their place. He's literally the Targe 01:11:08.250 --> 01:11:12.430 Reindeer, the entire Horus Heresy. I have something 01:11:12.430 --> 01:11:16.289 in the Discord for this wonderful moment. Do 01:11:16.289 --> 01:11:26.350 you? Can we even show this? It's a doge meme. 01:11:26.810 --> 01:11:31.649 What do you mean can we show this? It's a picture 01:11:31.649 --> 01:11:34.029 per travel with a doge face. Oh, it's in the 01:11:34.029 --> 01:11:39.789 Lore Crimes Discord. Oh, I see. If you wish to 01:11:39.789 --> 01:11:42.250 see the ongoing memes throughout the episodes. 01:11:44.289 --> 01:11:49.489 Join the Discord. which link is in the description 01:11:49.489 --> 01:11:52.329 of our radio i imagine and you can see the meme 01:11:52.329 --> 01:11:56.270 that colin posted i don't know the link is somewhere 01:11:56.270 --> 01:11:58.909 maybe maybe it's in our thing i don't i don't 01:11:58.909 --> 01:12:02.510 know all i'm saying is that paterabo and vulcan 01:12:02.510 --> 01:12:05.810 had a hammer moment and vulcans was better so 01:12:05.810 --> 01:12:11.069 it's also a hammer is a better one than pattern 01:12:11.069 --> 01:12:14.970 is with fulcrum's own hammer oh we've just had 01:12:14.970 --> 01:12:17.609 a we've had a major appearance in the chat from 01:12:17.609 --> 01:12:21.250 a long lost brother. So maybe we should get some 01:12:21.250 --> 01:12:23.590 donations. Yeah, I guess we need to get to these 01:12:23.590 --> 01:12:27.710 donations. Let me just put some art in the way 01:12:27.710 --> 01:12:29.130 for now. I'll just put this cool one from the 01:12:29.130 --> 01:12:32.130 new codex. Right, so let's go through the donos. 01:12:32.189 --> 01:12:35.170 So, DonkeyManUSA, for two bucks, Colin, that 01:12:35.170 --> 01:12:39.609 Two Tails comment was foul, you iFunnier. iFunnier? 01:12:40.029 --> 01:12:43.430 What does he mean by this, Colin? Don't worry 01:12:43.430 --> 01:12:45.789 about it. Crazy. We don't need to worry about 01:12:45.789 --> 01:12:50.090 it. I won't just look at two tails. Go on. Ian 01:12:50.090 --> 01:12:52.810 Schneider, two bucks. What is on the Emperor's 01:12:52.810 --> 01:12:55.909 Children of Workout Spotify playlist? A lot of 01:12:55.909 --> 01:13:00.689 EDM. So much, what's it called? Charlie XDX. 01:13:00.810 --> 01:13:04.189 Kickstart my heart. What are they called? Motley 01:13:04.189 --> 01:13:07.430 Crue. Lots of Motley Crue, I would say. And Cher. 01:13:08.489 --> 01:13:11.819 For some reason. Tom Warren, thank you for the 01:13:11.819 --> 01:13:13.880 $2. Horace, from my point of view, the Emperor 01:13:13.880 --> 01:13:16.359 is evil. Yeah, basically. Well, there you are 01:13:16.359 --> 01:13:22.659 lost, said Sanguinius. Gavin Bob, thank you for 01:13:22.659 --> 01:13:25.319 the $5. World of Darkness lore? That's epic, 01:13:25.479 --> 01:13:28.159 gamer. Damn, the Masquerade? The Blood Bowl? 01:13:29.880 --> 01:13:33.859 Gavin Bob, not Gavin Bob. Another Colin Lynch 01:13:33.859 --> 01:13:36.800 one. Pancreas to seize back. Silliest Clown, 01:13:36.859 --> 01:13:42.659 thanks for the $10. Colin, the type of guy to 01:13:42.659 --> 01:13:44.579 say you think you the drink bitch, you ain't 01:13:44.579 --> 01:13:47.119 even the cup before auto -resolving a fight between 01:13:47.119 --> 01:13:50.239 Karl Franz and Vlad von Karstein. You can't fight 01:13:50.239 --> 01:13:54.199 cavalry. Crazy. That's awesome. You ain't even 01:13:54.199 --> 01:13:58.979 the cup. That's great. Alpha Omega for five bucks. 01:13:59.159 --> 01:14:02.159 Just like with Colin, the demon poop syphilis 01:14:02.159 --> 01:14:06.279 has advanced too far into his gonads. I have 01:14:06.279 --> 01:14:14.569 diabetes! Crazy. Crazy, bro. Thank you. Jesus 01:14:14.569 --> 01:14:21.569 Christ, people. Bro, what? Bunny cup. Thank you 01:14:21.569 --> 01:14:23.270 for the five dollars. No, it's not appropriate. 01:14:23.689 --> 01:14:28.510 For the episode. Oh my gosh. Isfam 3 was okay. 01:14:28.630 --> 01:14:31.550 I liked Isfam 2 more. It was before the legions 01:14:31.550 --> 01:14:34.789 got real big. Isfam 5, though, was them totally 01:14:34.789 --> 01:14:40.859 selling out. God, that is funny. Yeah. Hello. 01:14:42.659 --> 01:14:49.439 Sneezy K20. This is for Colin. What am I looking 01:14:49.439 --> 01:14:56.380 at? Hi, Cologne, a .k .a. Kuln, a .k .a. Pancrase. 01:14:56.560 --> 01:15:01.340 You are nice. Thank you. Thank you for that. 01:15:02.899 --> 01:15:06.180 Eguan here from Christopher Steve's. Just finished 01:15:06.180 --> 01:15:08.739 The Shade of Cane book. and started gotrick books 01:15:08.739 --> 01:15:11.720 from brown slayer here's money to bribe you into 01:15:11.720 --> 01:15:14.899 another gotrick and felix episode well that bribe 01:15:14.899 --> 01:15:18.939 will be expected yeah speaking of that we'll 01:15:18.939 --> 01:15:21.979 get there oh here we go classic shalaxy's wettest 01:15:21.979 --> 01:15:25.199 griffin five five do not say that is classic 01:15:25.199 --> 01:15:28.140 sorry i missed the stream boys i'm getting a 01:15:28.140 --> 01:15:31.380 new kitten named grim gore so i've been for his 01:15:31.380 --> 01:15:36.109 conquest wait i missed it oh sorry by the way 01:15:36.109 --> 01:15:40.909 how it's trying to save you for a second that's 01:15:40.909 --> 01:15:45.670 that's a tough instrument right there yeah oh 01:15:45.670 --> 01:15:48.310 thank you though chill actually and thank you 01:15:48.310 --> 01:15:52.229 growing ass for the try 22. i don't know what 01:15:52.229 --> 01:15:55.710 that is turkey i don't know uh ae did pretty 01:15:55.710 --> 01:15:58.909 better justice than it did fulgrim yeah yeah 01:16:00.409 --> 01:16:03.949 Volgrim was a whole gooner in Angel Exterminatus. 01:16:06.050 --> 01:16:10.970 Whoa! Crimson Glory. It's been a long time. Crimson 01:16:10.970 --> 01:16:13.350 Glory, indeed. Thank you very much for the $50. 01:16:14.470 --> 01:16:17.829 We love you. We missed you. It's been a long 01:16:17.829 --> 01:16:19.890 time, brothers. The nails are fighting with this 01:16:19.890 --> 01:16:23.090 past topic, but I finally caught a livestream 01:16:23.090 --> 01:16:25.609 after months. We're very glad you're here. I've 01:16:25.609 --> 01:16:27.270 been wondering where you are, so I'm glad you're 01:16:27.270 --> 01:16:30.260 here. Welcome back. Thank you. Alpha and Omega. 01:16:30.640 --> 01:16:34.779 Two books. I thought Colin would stroke out reading 01:16:34.779 --> 01:16:39.039 that. I mean, the things we've read from the 01:16:39.039 --> 01:16:42.359 stuff on this channel, we've been through it. 01:16:43.100 --> 01:16:48.140 Thanksgiving. We're on a list somewhere. Oh, 01:16:49.159 --> 01:16:54.229 alright. So, Angel Exterminatus happens. And 01:16:54.229 --> 01:16:56.210 then in that book, they fight the Raven Guard, 01:16:56.329 --> 01:16:58.789 kind of. I barely remember that. The Shadow Legion. 01:16:59.210 --> 01:17:04.890 Yeah, the Shadow Legion. Sherekin adds to his... 01:17:04.890 --> 01:17:08.930 He adds to his achievements among killing Primarchs 01:17:08.930 --> 01:17:12.250 and being invisible and kills Lucius in a duel 01:17:12.250 --> 01:17:15.510 and doesn't feel any pride. But it doesn't matter 01:17:15.510 --> 01:17:18.630 because Games Workshop will not give Lucius his 01:17:18.630 --> 01:17:21.810 respawn. To be fair, this was his death before 01:17:21.810 --> 01:17:25.119 he became... in the eternal so it's literally 01:17:25.119 --> 01:17:27.600 like you ain't shiz and then like now he's got 01:17:27.600 --> 01:17:30.020 cheat codes activated he's like he's chasing 01:17:30.020 --> 01:17:34.000 that sharokin bite ever since yeah which is pathetic 01:17:34.000 --> 01:17:38.260 hate him the rules for hate him stuff isn't it 01:17:38.260 --> 01:17:40.840 the fact that his killer had no pride in killing 01:17:40.840 --> 01:17:43.340 yeah but there there are no rules for lucius's 01:17:43.340 --> 01:17:45.500 respawn mechanic they just do it they just put 01:17:45.500 --> 01:17:47.439 him in stupid situations and then make it happen 01:17:47.439 --> 01:17:53.350 for no reason Yeah, they didn't have to write 01:17:53.350 --> 01:17:55.449 these books. I don't know what goes through their 01:17:55.449 --> 01:17:58.149 heads when they write these stupid moments. Something 01:17:58.149 --> 01:18:01.369 good happens to Fulgrim, though. Oh, yeah, sorry. 01:18:02.149 --> 01:18:07.149 Fulgrim is now Giga Chad Handsome Snake Man and 01:18:07.149 --> 01:18:12.029 gets his final form that looks awesome. Shout 01:18:12.029 --> 01:18:15.369 out to the 30K Fulgrim model. The new one looks 01:18:15.369 --> 01:18:18.029 like complete Gooner City, but he was a handsome 01:18:18.029 --> 01:18:23.609 guy back in 30K. You sit in the Warp for 10 ,000 01:18:23.609 --> 01:18:25.829 years and see how you look. None of the other 01:18:25.829 --> 01:18:27.869 guys look any different! Why does Fulgrim look 01:18:27.869 --> 01:18:29.750 different now? What do you mean they don't look 01:18:29.750 --> 01:18:34.670 at Angron?! They're demons! Yes! Man has wings 01:18:34.670 --> 01:18:38.310 and hooves and everything! Hooves. He's the first 01:18:38.310 --> 01:18:41.489 demon prime. But Zarian stank. Ugh. Moth arms. 01:18:41.770 --> 01:18:44.229 Yeah, but more - demon mortarian - 30k looks 01:18:44.229 --> 01:18:46.390 the same as Demon Mortarion 40k and so on, but 01:18:46.390 --> 01:18:50.850 I digress. It's fine. Should I show off the gutters, 01:18:50.949 --> 01:18:52.529 Eli? Would that make you happy? What'd you say? 01:18:52.770 --> 01:18:54.649 I'll show off the gutters. I'll show off the 01:18:54.649 --> 01:18:58.130 gutters. Fulgrim's goaded. Fulgrim's so goaded. 01:18:58.770 --> 01:19:01.510 He's now at least gone from... Yeah, there he 01:19:01.510 --> 01:19:05.310 is. He's at least now gone from annoying, possessed, 01:19:05.649 --> 01:19:08.350 chaos -corrupted regular Fulgrim, and now he 01:19:08.350 --> 01:19:11.189 has super demon powers. So even though he's still 01:19:11.189 --> 01:19:15.340 a jerk, he's... beyond powerful um according 01:19:15.340 --> 01:19:17.619 to roguel door and he's the most powerful primark 01:19:17.619 --> 01:19:22.479 uh literally the goat um you know not my words 01:19:22.479 --> 01:19:26.300 yeah roger said that like on the enemy side because 01:19:26.300 --> 01:19:28.420 jagatai was already on his side so they didn't 01:19:28.420 --> 01:19:33.899 count oh yeah uh -huh look i'm gonna skip i'm 01:19:33.899 --> 01:19:36.000 just gonna say it be mortarian twice you could 01:19:36.000 --> 01:19:37.960 beat this guy i don't care how many arms you 01:19:37.960 --> 01:19:40.699 got you're gonna get more terry mortarian and 01:19:40.699 --> 01:19:43.729 the con drew because mortarian basically killed 01:19:43.729 --> 01:19:46.409 him fulgrim would be the car i'm just going to 01:19:46.409 --> 01:19:48.989 say it i'm just going to say it mortarian's not 01:19:48.989 --> 01:19:52.270 it's not exactly known for his uh duelist skill 01:19:52.270 --> 01:19:56.130 so he's just like he's like the chica he's like 01:19:56.130 --> 01:20:01.050 he's just he's just you you beat him he's like 01:20:01.050 --> 01:20:04.810 you got so much hp you ain't got no strings um 01:20:04.810 --> 01:20:08.810 but yeah that's angel exterminatus uh does anything 01:20:08.810 --> 01:20:13.279 important happen between that and the uh There's 01:20:13.279 --> 01:20:18.539 the new... I was going to say, there's the bit 01:20:18.539 --> 01:20:22.319 where Lorgar tries to convince Fulgrim to betray 01:20:22.319 --> 01:20:25.619 Horus to join his side to be the new Warmaster. 01:20:25.899 --> 01:20:29.800 And then at the end of when it's like they're 01:20:29.800 --> 01:20:33.239 going to do their coup. Fulgrim goes, nah, I 01:20:33.239 --> 01:20:37.140 was just messing. And then Horus beats the shiz 01:20:37.140 --> 01:20:39.680 out of Lorcan and goes, you get the hell out 01:20:39.680 --> 01:20:41.239 of here. You're not coming to the siege. You 01:20:41.239 --> 01:20:45.340 are uninvited. You're not coming to my birthday 01:20:45.340 --> 01:20:48.640 party. You suck. From this point on in the lore, 01:20:48.800 --> 01:20:51.140 anytime Fulgrim is going to make a major plot 01:20:51.140 --> 01:20:53.579 difference, he decides that he gets bored and 01:20:53.579 --> 01:20:56.100 leaves, or he just wants to be funny and silly 01:20:56.100 --> 01:20:59.210 and doesn't do anything. um but again which is 01:20:59.210 --> 01:21:00.970 exactly what's going to happen when he fights 01:21:00.970 --> 01:21:03.369 the next loyalist primark by the way he's gonna 01:21:03.369 --> 01:21:05.149 say this is boring and then he's gonna leave 01:21:05.149 --> 01:21:08.989 but again it makes sense that even when the emperor's 01:21:08.989 --> 01:21:11.750 children attack holy terror they're too busy 01:21:11.750 --> 01:21:14.149 trying to like capture people to like experiment 01:21:14.149 --> 01:21:16.750 on rather than like they don't care like if you 01:21:16.750 --> 01:21:20.189 were literally like on all the warp dust you 01:21:20.189 --> 01:21:23.170 could imagine yeah and like it's just such an 01:21:23.170 --> 01:21:27.359 easy cop -out It's just such an easy way for 01:21:27.359 --> 01:21:29.119 the writers to get their characters out of things, 01:21:29.199 --> 01:21:31.720 which is so classic. But it makes sense. But 01:21:31.720 --> 01:21:34.239 the trouble is, it's literally like that would 01:21:34.239 --> 01:21:36.159 be exactly what they do because they are the 01:21:36.159 --> 01:21:38.720 exemplars of we get distracted. We are the ADHD 01:21:38.720 --> 01:21:41.880 legion. We get really easily distracted and we 01:21:41.880 --> 01:21:44.380 do what we want. Slash corruption kind of sucks. 01:21:44.520 --> 01:21:49.699 I can play loud music when I want, mom. That's 01:21:49.699 --> 01:21:56.670 the legion. Excess. There's only a small I'll 01:21:56.670 --> 01:21:59.229 have to say it for the Eidolon part I'll talk 01:21:59.229 --> 01:22:03.289 about it later but Fulgrim Horus summons him 01:22:03.289 --> 01:22:06.069 once to like corrupt this night house on this 01:22:06.069 --> 01:22:09.149 world when Horus turns into actual chaos Horus 01:22:09.149 --> 01:22:13.930 not just chaos tool Horus apparently he kills 01:22:13.930 --> 01:22:16.590 some salamanders at one point or something but 01:22:16.590 --> 01:22:19.430 at this point Fulgrim is essentially he's just 01:22:19.430 --> 01:22:23.470 like Andy said he's just kicking it up in the 01:22:23.470 --> 01:22:26.689 war he's doing foul stuff with other demons and 01:22:26.689 --> 01:22:28.689 then lorga showed up and was like you need to 01:22:28.689 --> 01:22:31.010 go fight the war full rim and fulcrum which went 01:22:31.010 --> 01:22:35.569 what war he's like because obviously we don't 01:22:35.569 --> 01:22:37.909 know what time there's no time in the war you 01:22:37.909 --> 01:22:39.649 don't even know how old fulcrum is at this point 01:22:39.649 --> 01:22:42.949 he did he says like fulham says i can't be bothered 01:22:42.949 --> 01:22:45.789 why go out to the mature universe when i can 01:22:45.789 --> 01:22:48.010 have all this stuff here yeah and log i was like 01:22:48.409 --> 01:22:53.229 No. Yeah. You know that scene in Avengers when 01:22:53.229 --> 01:22:55.970 it's like Thor is playing Fortnite. He's kind 01:22:55.970 --> 01:22:59.010 of spitting. He's just like, oh, what's going 01:22:59.010 --> 01:23:01.890 on, Thanos? That's it. Fulgrim's playing Fortnite 01:23:01.890 --> 01:23:04.949 with Shalaxy. Shout out to Shalaxy. Yeah, yeah, 01:23:04.989 --> 01:23:07.810 yeah. And Morathi via a different server. He's 01:23:07.810 --> 01:23:11.989 a streamer now. Fulgrim's a streamer now. In 01:23:11.989 --> 01:23:15.750 the chat. Fulgrim is a straight gooner at this 01:23:15.750 --> 01:23:19.500 point. Never be reliable ever again, most likely, 01:23:19.600 --> 01:23:23.920 unfortunately. Eli, serious question. If Fulgrim 01:23:23.920 --> 01:23:25.520 had an OnlyFans, how much do you reckon he'd 01:23:25.520 --> 01:23:28.800 make a month? One trillion dollars, because this 01:23:28.800 --> 01:23:32.500 is a galactic empire we're talking about. Destabilizes 01:23:32.500 --> 01:23:36.500 every nation. The currencies in shambles. I'm 01:23:36.500 --> 01:23:38.560 one of the richest men alive, along with Horatio 01:23:38.560 --> 01:23:46.909 the Great. I'm sorry Eli, Horatio mocks Fulgrim. 01:23:47.909 --> 01:23:50.449 Horatio's true perfection. Fulgrim's a pale imitation 01:23:50.449 --> 01:23:54.329 of Horatio. And to be fair, there is also a reason 01:23:54.329 --> 01:23:56.409 we haven't seen Fulgrim be that active because 01:23:56.409 --> 01:23:59.310 he's been suffering from a very long inflicted 01:23:59.310 --> 01:24:02.289 burn where the Khan told him, I hear you do strange 01:24:02.289 --> 01:24:05.470 things to your children. He was actually being 01:24:05.470 --> 01:24:07.670 very mean and insensitive because Fulgrim was 01:24:07.670 --> 01:24:12.260 trying to help his legion at this time. It was 01:24:12.260 --> 01:24:16.340 just to be a jerk. He earned it. Khan's not malicious. 01:24:16.699 --> 01:24:21.319 It's a long time ago. And he still hasn't bombed 01:24:21.319 --> 01:24:26.079 that wound. Oh my gosh. If there was anyone who 01:24:26.079 --> 01:24:28.479 would beat Fulgrim, I would like it to be the 01:24:28.479 --> 01:24:29.939 Khan, but I know it's going to be Lehman Russ, 01:24:30.079 --> 01:24:35.130 so whatever. It's fine. We'll see. I feel like 01:24:35.130 --> 01:24:37.729 Lehman's got to have more like, I fight Magnus 01:24:37.729 --> 01:24:39.609 because that's my thing. Well, you'd think, but 01:24:39.609 --> 01:24:42.289 they had Gilliman fight Magnus, and instead of 01:24:42.289 --> 01:24:44.430 Gilliman fight Fulgrim, the guy who literally 01:24:44.430 --> 01:24:47.869 freaking killed him. Gilliman's for everyone 01:24:47.869 --> 01:24:51.810 other than Horace. He's for everyone. Yeah. All 01:24:51.810 --> 01:24:54.350 right. It's your turn. We should keep things 01:24:54.350 --> 01:24:56.729 moving, though. And actually, I think it's pretty 01:24:56.729 --> 01:24:58.449 much going to go back to you, Hal, because we 01:24:58.449 --> 01:25:00.529 are at the Siege of Terror now, and I have not 01:25:00.529 --> 01:25:02.630 read the Siege of Terror books, but Hal has. 01:25:03.100 --> 01:25:05.260 I've only read part of Saturnite where Dorne 01:25:05.260 --> 01:25:06.800 talks about Fulgrim because I wanted to prove 01:25:06.800 --> 01:25:10.760 a point. There is some... I'll tell you after 01:25:10.760 --> 01:25:11.979 as well, we're going to talk about some other 01:25:11.979 --> 01:25:14.600 Emperor's Children characters, but just like 01:25:14.600 --> 01:25:18.340 the Legion and kind of Fulgrim stuff at this 01:25:18.340 --> 01:25:22.800 point, the Emperor's Children scatter during 01:25:22.800 --> 01:25:24.520 the Horror's Heresy. Once Fulgrim is attending 01:25:24.520 --> 01:25:27.359 to Demon Hood, there's basically no central control. 01:25:28.279 --> 01:25:32.359 Different leaders amongst the... Legion, 75 for 01:25:32.359 --> 01:25:36.380 warbands, Eidolon holding the largest. And they 01:25:36.380 --> 01:25:39.800 arrive at the Siege of Terror. And they kind 01:25:39.800 --> 01:25:42.579 of, the Empress' children don't really care. 01:25:42.659 --> 01:25:46.579 The siege is mostly in the hands of Perturabo 01:25:46.579 --> 01:25:49.260 while Horus fights the Emperor in the Warp. And 01:25:49.260 --> 01:25:52.500 Abaddon, who's obviously in command of the Sons 01:25:52.500 --> 01:25:54.840 of Horus. But the Emperor's children are kind 01:25:54.840 --> 01:25:57.479 of bored with it. They don't even engage in the 01:25:57.479 --> 01:26:00.319 initial attacks because the other legions seem 01:26:00.319 --> 01:26:02.100 way more interested in it. The Emperor's children 01:26:02.100 --> 01:26:05.600 start to roam across the rest of Terra. All those 01:26:05.600 --> 01:26:08.560 who can't make it to the safety of the Imperial 01:26:08.560 --> 01:26:11.899 Palace, they get dragged. They take the life 01:26:11.899 --> 01:26:13.619 of victims. I think they said they turn them 01:26:13.619 --> 01:26:19.279 into soups, chemicals. They do all kinds of things 01:26:19.279 --> 01:26:21.680 you can't say on YouTube. You, what is your name? 01:26:21.899 --> 01:26:29.989 My name is... lunch. Fulgrim is on the pride 01:26:29.989 --> 01:26:33.149 of the Emperor ship for a little while because 01:26:33.149 --> 01:26:38.090 demons can't manifest on terror. And even then 01:26:38.090 --> 01:26:41.310 he participates sometimes in the talks, but he's 01:26:41.310 --> 01:26:44.930 again just indulging in things. He's doing horrible 01:26:44.930 --> 01:26:51.850 things to people. Finally, Abaddon makes a play 01:26:51.850 --> 01:26:56.250 with... idlon to get fulgrim and the legion to 01:26:56.250 --> 01:27:00.050 attack the wall slash the saturnine gambit slash 01:27:00.050 --> 01:27:02.149 you know the the best book in the siege terror 01:27:02.149 --> 01:27:04.510 where the empress children will be a massive 01:27:04.510 --> 01:27:07.550 distraction for an underground assault the empress 01:27:07.550 --> 01:27:09.770 children do like this they corrupt these like 01:27:09.770 --> 01:27:12.189 uh big engines and then they start assaulting 01:27:12.189 --> 01:27:15.869 the wall like a whole legion fights on it they're 01:27:15.869 --> 01:27:18.090 doing pretty good against the imperial fists 01:27:18.090 --> 01:27:21.949 but again like some of them like they're a bit 01:27:21.949 --> 01:27:24.699 sporadic they're not doing it like wherever they're 01:27:24.699 --> 01:27:27.000 fighting they're actually massacring but then 01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:28.960 they're also attacking civilians and things and 01:27:28.960 --> 01:27:31.720 they get off track fulgham appears in the wall 01:27:31.720 --> 01:27:35.659 he's just having fun killing and then rogal dawn 01:27:35.659 --> 01:27:42.979 shows up rogal dawn he's not even remotely i've 01:27:42.979 --> 01:27:47.840 read the fight wait wait wait wait wait before 01:27:47.840 --> 01:27:52.789 dawn gets involved Sigismund plunges his sword 01:27:52.789 --> 01:27:56.689 so deep inside Fulgrim that he has to, like, 01:27:56.689 --> 01:28:01.029 swat him. The most annoying mosquito you've ever 01:28:01.029 --> 01:28:03.210 seen. He's also about to just kill Sigismund. 01:28:04.649 --> 01:28:10.149 I read it very any other day. It explicitly states 01:28:10.149 --> 01:28:13.970 that Fulgrim is toying with someone and then 01:28:13.970 --> 01:28:16.970 something just hits his leg. And he turns around 01:28:16.970 --> 01:28:19.609 annoyed and he kicks Sigismund off of him. But 01:28:19.609 --> 01:28:22.210 then the rabid dog comes back in and does another 01:28:22.210 --> 01:28:25.810 swing. And the moment he cuts a strand of Fulgrim's 01:28:25.810 --> 01:28:31.069 hair is when he gets annoyed. And then Dawn shows 01:28:31.069 --> 01:28:34.710 up and says, you know, poor Sigismund. Sigismund, 01:28:34.909 --> 01:28:40.470 something often outstrips his ability. His enthusiasm 01:28:40.470 --> 01:28:44.890 or something. And you're like, I often give Dawn 01:28:44.890 --> 01:28:48.100 a hard time. but i read that i was like let's 01:28:48.100 --> 01:28:51.199 go don't let's go full room is in he appears 01:28:51.199 --> 01:28:54.579 in in like his great crusade era form so he isn't 01:28:54.579 --> 01:28:56.539 he's not a demon at this point because he's just 01:28:56.539 --> 01:28:59.779 walking around and having fun dawn just says 01:28:59.779 --> 01:29:02.159 at this point you know you're getting distracted 01:29:02.159 --> 01:29:05.239 i already know about the other half of the gambit 01:29:05.239 --> 01:29:07.920 you know your distraction is useless you're just 01:29:07.920 --> 01:29:11.420 an idiot on a wall um whilst fulgrim attacks 01:29:11.420 --> 01:29:15.539 him dawn has a shield and every time fulgrim 01:29:15.539 --> 01:29:20.199 gets in close um essentially fulgrim is doing 01:29:20.199 --> 01:29:23.680 damage but dawn having a literal shield and they 01:29:23.680 --> 01:29:25.539 were just like they just keep like battering 01:29:25.539 --> 01:29:27.979 him off to the point in which fulgrim is literally 01:29:27.979 --> 01:29:31.539 like oh yeah he start again as i you know says 01:29:31.539 --> 01:29:34.560 unfortunately he does he transforms into a demon 01:29:34.560 --> 01:29:37.449 form but then he's just He realizes, like, he 01:29:37.449 --> 01:29:39.949 looks around and Dorne has managed to, like, 01:29:39.949 --> 01:29:41.909 push off the Emperor's children slightly off 01:29:41.909 --> 01:29:44.989 the wall slash contain them. Not to the point 01:29:44.989 --> 01:29:47.510 he can't kill them, but essentially the distraction 01:29:47.510 --> 01:29:52.109 gambit isn't working. So Fulgrim just looks around. 01:29:52.189 --> 01:29:54.869 He's like, ugh, you know what I mean? And then 01:29:54.869 --> 01:29:57.329 again, he just turns around. He sends his Emperor's 01:29:57.329 --> 01:29:59.189 children captains to go kill Dorne because he's 01:29:59.189 --> 01:30:00.630 just like, I'm literally bored of it. And then 01:30:00.630 --> 01:30:04.109 he leaves the Caesar Terror. Yeah. well imagine 01:30:04.109 --> 01:30:07.590 for the layman imagine fulgrim is playing a game 01:30:07.590 --> 01:30:10.189 of tetris in the background and he's also fighting 01:30:10.189 --> 01:30:13.189 dawn like a dark souls player and dawn is like 01:30:13.189 --> 01:30:17.029 fully put into like fatigue for um stamina and 01:30:17.029 --> 01:30:19.569 like a shield build and he's just like clonk 01:30:19.569 --> 01:30:26.710 clonk yeah any damage he has so much oh my god 01:30:26.710 --> 01:30:28.850 the tetris blocks are piling i need to go play 01:30:28.850 --> 01:30:31.750 tetris and like to be fair dawn also had like 01:30:31.750 --> 01:30:35.140 the the like perk of he's the primark that knows 01:30:35.140 --> 01:30:37.460 the weaknesses of everything so he would have 01:30:37.460 --> 01:30:39.420 got him in my opinion he would have got him eventually 01:30:39.420 --> 01:30:41.819 but it would have been a slow burn it would have 01:30:41.819 --> 01:30:44.420 been like i'm going to kill you with fast and 01:30:44.420 --> 01:30:46.939 cuts because that's his primark ability he can 01:30:46.939 --> 01:30:49.479 see weakness that's why he says afterwards that 01:30:49.479 --> 01:30:56.500 he wasn't going to win To be fair, no one can 01:30:56.500 --> 01:31:00.180 match the Khan's confidence. Okay, we get it. 01:31:00.420 --> 01:31:05.279 Hey, I can't win against Mortarion. That's loser 01:31:05.279 --> 01:31:11.180 shit. I'll die if I have to win. This is still 01:31:11.180 --> 01:31:14.619 at the point in which demons can't fully manifest 01:31:14.619 --> 01:31:20.220 or weakened. So Fulgrim isn't. like is why he 01:31:20.220 --> 01:31:22.739 manifests in like in a human form initially because 01:31:22.739 --> 01:31:26.439 he's like he has to so the emperor's power slash 01:31:26.439 --> 01:31:29.659 this close to the um imperial palace like angron 01:31:29.659 --> 01:31:31.840 is literally like head butting this invisible 01:31:31.840 --> 01:31:35.020 wall it's so bad and they said like if they get 01:31:35.020 --> 01:31:37.699 too close the demon primus will be scattered 01:31:37.699 --> 01:31:42.000 from slash banished um but fulgrim and the and 01:31:42.000 --> 01:31:43.979 the emperor's children they're almost complete 01:31:43.979 --> 01:31:48.710 once fulgrim leaves He goes back to the goon 01:31:48.710 --> 01:31:51.289 palace and then the children just sort of are 01:31:51.289 --> 01:31:52.930 completely directionless and they just go attack 01:31:52.930 --> 01:31:55.069 the rest of Terra. Didn't Fulgrim know it was 01:31:55.069 --> 01:31:57.069 a trap and he didn't care? He knew it was just 01:31:57.069 --> 01:32:00.109 that. He was screwed from the start, he was just 01:32:00.109 --> 01:32:02.149 there for fun. Literally just wanted to have 01:32:02.149 --> 01:32:05.649 a good time. He was just doing it because he 01:32:05.649 --> 01:32:08.689 was like, they finally asked him to do something, 01:32:09.109 --> 01:32:12.590 and he was like, I guess I'll leave the pleasure 01:32:12.590 --> 01:32:15.210 palace. Just like every Demon Primark, the moment 01:32:15.210 --> 01:32:17.529 he became a Demon Primark his character was turned 01:32:17.529 --> 01:32:20.470 into a flat nothing burger. That's called the 01:32:20.470 --> 01:32:22.880 end of the character arc. Yeah but they still 01:32:22.880 --> 01:32:24.880 exist, the character shouldn't exist after the 01:32:24.880 --> 01:32:26.560 character arc, we should move on to a new character 01:32:26.560 --> 01:32:29.260 arc. It's not how Warhammer works. He can't grow. 01:32:29.899 --> 01:32:32.000 There's no growth. But it's a growing setting, 01:32:32.159 --> 01:32:34.039 it's an ongoing setting with no character growth, 01:32:34.140 --> 01:32:35.479 at least to really bad stories. Please, don't 01:32:35.479 --> 01:32:37.819 mention the word grow. It was an ongoing setting 01:32:37.819 --> 01:32:44.279 as of recently. How long were we at Cadia? This 01:32:44.279 --> 01:32:46.020 is exactly why the Primarchs shouldn't have showed 01:32:46.020 --> 01:32:47.779 back up, because they should have been done with 01:32:47.779 --> 01:32:49.319 their character arc. Or the Fall 4 of Armageddon 01:32:49.319 --> 01:32:52.000 that's coming up soon. Yeah, but now we just 01:32:52.000 --> 01:32:55.199 have the same MFs doing the same things. Featuring 01:32:55.199 --> 01:32:56.979 the same Grey Knight models you've been seeing 01:32:56.979 --> 01:32:57.619 for the last 20 years. If you couldn't tell, 01:32:57.819 --> 01:33:05.760 Eli does actually like Warhammer. I'm Warhammer's 01:33:05.760 --> 01:33:09.020 biggest fan and hater. I will confess. But that's 01:33:09.020 --> 01:33:12.199 essentially the end of their Horus Heresy journey, 01:33:12.479 --> 01:33:14.760 other than Emperor's Children kind of - unless 01:33:14.760 --> 01:33:16.760 you were saying something, Eli, about them next. 01:33:17.439 --> 01:33:20.770 Uh, not really. Dorne - i kind of already said 01:33:20.770 --> 01:33:24.409 it but doran at the end of it says like they 01:33:24.409 --> 01:33:27.710 could have been what won the seat of terror they 01:33:27.710 --> 01:33:29.250 could have been the traitor's greatest weapon 01:33:29.250 --> 01:33:31.090 but they didn't know how to control them so they 01:33:31.090 --> 01:33:34.869 were pretty useless yeah yeah pretty they're 01:33:34.869 --> 01:33:37.069 tough to fight but then yet you have to get them 01:33:37.069 --> 01:33:40.130 in the right place and to fight together because 01:33:40.130 --> 01:33:42.289 now they're all you know they're all selfish 01:33:42.289 --> 01:33:45.810 they're all so enamored by their own desires 01:33:45.810 --> 01:33:48.170 and own thing you know one guy's over there trying 01:33:48.170 --> 01:33:50.899 to like Flay the person to make the perfect, 01:33:51.380 --> 01:33:54.100 you know, bed sheet or something. You can't concentrate 01:33:54.100 --> 01:33:57.800 on attacking. And then this other guy's brought 01:33:57.800 --> 01:33:59.899 out a Dance Dance Revolution map, and he's just 01:33:59.899 --> 01:34:01.340 there in the middle of battle trying to get a 01:34:01.340 --> 01:34:02.720 high score. He's like, dude, what are you doing? 01:34:03.439 --> 01:34:06.579 The man is a person. Therefore, the chaos was 01:34:06.579 --> 01:34:09.859 the worst, and they also became the most unreliable 01:34:09.859 --> 01:34:14.439 force. Was it the worst, though? I would say 01:34:14.439 --> 01:34:16.060 death guards probably the worst. I was gonna 01:34:16.060 --> 01:34:18.340 say death guards. You smell of poopy. Yeah, but 01:34:18.340 --> 01:34:21.260 are you that surprised that frickin' Typhus and 01:34:21.260 --> 01:34:25.399 Mortarion became bad guys? Like, they didn't 01:34:25.399 --> 01:34:27.079 have that much further to go, if we're being 01:34:27.079 --> 01:34:30.159 honest. It's grosser, yeah, but that's not what 01:34:30.159 --> 01:34:33.039 I mean. The Emperor's Children of Paul is a lot 01:34:33.039 --> 01:34:34.979 more tragic than everyone else's, because it 01:34:34.979 --> 01:34:37.770 would have never happened. i mean i feel like 01:34:37.770 --> 01:34:40.109 world eaters are worse because it's like their 01:34:40.109 --> 01:34:42.569 dad didn't have a world they tried to be good 01:34:42.569 --> 01:34:45.529 boys the discord was in the description but it 01:34:45.529 --> 01:34:49.210 was sad yeah it is sad but it was expected the 01:34:49.210 --> 01:34:51.109 emperor children thing wasn't expected and it 01:34:51.109 --> 01:34:54.090 shouldn't have happened whereas obviously the 01:34:54.090 --> 01:34:57.210 world becoming like prideful wasn't expected 01:34:57.210 --> 01:34:59.329 well yeah obviously but i don't think they would 01:34:59.329 --> 01:35:02.109 have ever turned to chaos man even made his beak 01:35:02.109 --> 01:35:07.689 gold what's going on Yeah, that is indeed the 01:35:07.689 --> 01:35:11.470 Horus heresy. In 40k, I'm going to be honest, 01:35:11.670 --> 01:35:14.189 I read through the new codex. This episode was 01:35:14.189 --> 01:35:16.750 supposed to be just the new lore for the new 01:35:16.750 --> 01:35:19.250 codex, but there's like two pages of new lore 01:35:19.250 --> 01:35:20.949 in the new codex, so there's not a lot to say. 01:35:21.149 --> 01:35:25.310 But after the heresy, Fulgrim was being chilling 01:35:25.310 --> 01:35:27.609 for like 10 ,000 years and would occasionally 01:35:27.609 --> 01:35:31.869 show up to just have fun and kill some people, 01:35:31.909 --> 01:35:33.689 and then he would just go back to being chilling. 01:35:34.359 --> 01:35:37.399 um fabius went and talked to him at one point 01:35:37.399 --> 01:35:41.060 and he he wasn't really interested still and 01:35:41.060 --> 01:35:44.380 the new codex lore says that fulgham would occasionally 01:35:44.380 --> 01:35:46.380 show up and he would fight wars differently every 01:35:46.380 --> 01:35:48.420 single time because of access and all that stuff 01:35:48.420 --> 01:35:50.699 so sometimes he'll be this perfect strategic 01:35:50.699 --> 01:35:53.119 genius and rage the perfect war and other times 01:35:53.119 --> 01:35:56.220 he'll just throw things at the wall and just 01:35:56.220 --> 01:35:59.539 for fun uh people think that he has fireblade 01:35:59.539 --> 01:36:02.359 again And that he potentially has a crone sword, 01:36:02.500 --> 01:36:03.920 but there's no mention of the crone sword in 01:36:03.920 --> 01:36:07.060 the Codex. Isn't he one of the swords he's holding, 01:36:07.119 --> 01:36:10.340 though, on his model? So it seems. Very Eldar 01:36:10.340 --> 01:36:12.880 -y. But there was no mention of it in the Codex, 01:36:12.880 --> 01:36:17.359 oddly enough. He's back now. He's challenging 01:36:17.359 --> 01:36:19.800 his sons. The new book is apparently about him 01:36:19.800 --> 01:36:22.460 challenging his sons to break an impenetrable 01:36:22.460 --> 01:36:25.359 fortress world guarded by the Black Templars. 01:36:26.460 --> 01:36:28.319 That's pretty much all the new Fulgrim lore. 01:36:28.979 --> 01:36:31.060 But we can talk about the other characters because 01:36:31.060 --> 01:36:35.039 we haven't done that yet. So I think what notable 01:36:35.039 --> 01:36:39.079 characters would be Lucius and Fabius and Eidolon 01:36:39.079 --> 01:36:43.880 and what's his name? Oh my gosh, the guy who 01:36:43.880 --> 01:36:50.600 eats demons and has a demon GF. Zantime. He's 01:36:50.600 --> 01:36:52.380 kind of important, I guess. I don't know. He 01:36:52.380 --> 01:36:54.180 has his own book. I've only read his short story, 01:36:54.300 --> 01:36:57.340 not the whole book, unfortunately. He's an interesting 01:36:57.340 --> 01:37:00.460 character because he's literally like a loser 01:37:00.460 --> 01:37:03.100 within the Legion. He has his own warband. He 01:37:03.100 --> 01:37:06.039 used to be part of the Black Legion and then 01:37:06.039 --> 01:37:08.260 he got bored and left. so he's kind of being 01:37:08.260 --> 01:37:10.560 hunted by the black legion his warband thinks 01:37:10.560 --> 01:37:12.619 he's a bit of a dick and it's like he is a jerk 01:37:12.619 --> 01:37:15.979 yeah in his typical emperor's children fashion 01:37:15.979 --> 01:37:18.899 yeah in the in the book that he was in it was 01:37:18.899 --> 01:37:21.680 actually like i read the short story um i don't 01:37:21.680 --> 01:37:23.260 remember what it's called something with perfection 01:37:23.260 --> 01:37:27.300 in the name though um oh in his little short 01:37:27.300 --> 01:37:31.060 story novella thing him and the children of torment 01:37:31.060 --> 01:37:33.560 which are the emperor's children turned black 01:37:33.560 --> 01:37:36.729 legion um him and the children of torment go 01:37:36.729 --> 01:37:39.770 and assault this iron hands fortress basically 01:37:39.770 --> 01:37:42.510 yeah and he gets the short end of the stick they 01:37:42.510 --> 01:37:44.909 give like a complete idiot the big job and they 01:37:44.909 --> 01:37:48.170 give him the dumb job and he's mad about it they 01:37:48.170 --> 01:37:50.289 beat them though they go into this place and 01:37:50.289 --> 01:37:52.470 he's been hearing the calls of this demon for 01:37:52.470 --> 01:37:54.630 a long long long time and he's been having dreams 01:37:54.630 --> 01:37:56.970 about her and he he eats demons he's buddies 01:37:56.970 --> 01:37:59.250 with this word bear guy who like feeds him demons 01:37:59.250 --> 01:38:02.390 and he just like kills them and lets them rot 01:38:02.390 --> 01:38:05.170 to the bottom of his soul But he's been searching 01:38:05.170 --> 01:38:08.250 out for this demon, and they find this chamber 01:38:08.250 --> 01:38:10.689 with an Eldar spear in the middle, and they were 01:38:10.689 --> 01:38:14.369 containing this demon. The guy who he doesn't 01:38:14.369 --> 01:38:16.789 like, who got the big job, is with him now, and 01:38:16.789 --> 01:38:19.189 he's talking about, like, this is great, brother. 01:38:19.569 --> 01:38:22.310 Me and you working together. Let's do it. And 01:38:22.310 --> 01:38:24.470 then this Redemptor Dreadnought shows up, and 01:38:24.470 --> 01:38:27.229 he freaking hamstrings the guy and lets the Dreadnought 01:38:27.229 --> 01:38:29.149 kill him so that he can go get the spear. It's 01:38:29.149 --> 01:38:32.430 classic. It's classic Emperor's Children. But 01:38:32.430 --> 01:38:34.689 then he gets back. he gets the spear he's now 01:38:34.689 --> 01:38:39.289 his demon gf and the leader of the war band is 01:38:39.289 --> 01:38:40.649 actually about to kill him because he poisons 01:38:40.649 --> 01:38:43.609 him but then his this noise marine named vavis 01:38:43.609 --> 01:38:46.390 saves him at the last moment because noise marines 01:38:46.390 --> 01:38:49.409 are actually goaded uh and like the nicest guys 01:38:49.409 --> 01:38:52.470 of the emperor's children weirdly enough yeah 01:38:52.470 --> 01:38:56.170 yeah they're really chill they weren't at the 01:38:56.170 --> 01:38:58.069 horse heresy but they've kind of i mean they 01:38:58.069 --> 01:39:00.289 still are from any outside perspective the noise 01:39:00.289 --> 01:39:02.729 marines are the most like insane mfs ever but 01:39:02.729 --> 01:39:05.750 like in the legion now in the war bands nowadays 01:39:05.750 --> 01:39:08.149 all they care about is playing the song of slanesh 01:39:08.149 --> 01:39:11.109 and like spreading slanesh wherever they go so 01:39:11.109 --> 01:39:14.189 they kind of just keep to themselves and help 01:39:14.189 --> 01:39:17.449 out and to be fair his book is is basically a 01:39:17.449 --> 01:39:20.909 story about how he stumbles upon a planet the 01:39:20.909 --> 01:39:23.409 planetary governor is like oh you're one of the 01:39:23.409 --> 01:39:27.659 emperor's angels right and he's like yeah And 01:39:27.659 --> 01:39:29.319 then they take over the planet and he becomes 01:39:29.319 --> 01:39:31.619 the ruler of the planet. And it's then just a 01:39:31.619 --> 01:39:34.500 slow decline of how badly that goes. And his 01:39:34.500 --> 01:39:37.060 warband turn against him and the demon in his 01:39:37.060 --> 01:39:41.119 sword. This thing, this thing is, is like wife, 01:39:41.279 --> 01:39:46.600 his waifu. And like, it's all about like, Hey, 01:39:46.619 --> 01:39:48.979 but come on, come on, surrender. He's like, no. 01:39:49.220 --> 01:39:52.220 And then like his own men turn on him and they 01:39:52.220 --> 01:39:54.460 ruin the planet. And then they leave when it's 01:39:54.460 --> 01:39:57.770 completely just like destroyed. It's like, That's 01:39:57.770 --> 01:39:59.310 what happens when you let the Emperor's children 01:39:59.310 --> 01:40:02.930 rule a planet. It's bad. I still think he's pretty 01:40:02.930 --> 01:40:05.510 cool. He's one of the more sane Emperor's children. 01:40:07.609 --> 01:40:10.789 He's at least kind of sane compared to the other 01:40:10.789 --> 01:40:14.369 guys, though. And he is a good fighter, to his 01:40:14.369 --> 01:40:17.069 credit. He beats a Redemptor Dreadnought by himself, 01:40:17.310 --> 01:40:22.189 which is pretty cool. Before we do finish, the 01:40:22.189 --> 01:40:26.279 last sighting we have of Fulgrim is... a certain 01:40:26.279 --> 01:40:29.760 signal emanates from a destroyed world called 01:40:29.760 --> 01:40:31.979 istvan oh yeah we missed we did we missed two 01:40:31.979 --> 01:40:35.420 important things actually yeah um you can talk 01:40:35.420 --> 01:40:39.319 about freaking dreadnought man uh as we mentioned 01:40:39.319 --> 01:40:42.220 earlier is fond three where the loyalists uh 01:40:42.220 --> 01:40:45.180 empress children you know the good ones they 01:40:45.180 --> 01:40:48.300 all were basically annihilated by their own friends 01:40:48.300 --> 01:40:51.420 they fulgrim returns because there's a signal 01:40:51.420 --> 01:40:54.890 like a legion emergency signal calling um from 01:40:54.890 --> 01:40:57.949 the world fulgrim shows up he sees three thousand 01:40:57.949 --> 01:41:00.069 suns like what's what's going on what's going 01:41:00.069 --> 01:41:03.630 on appears even deeper to find the remains of 01:41:03.630 --> 01:41:07.909 ancient rylenor ancient of rights as he says 01:41:07.909 --> 01:41:12.409 rylenor is a hero of the legion who you know 01:41:12.409 --> 01:41:17.039 famously switched places with um I think he might 01:41:17.039 --> 01:41:20.819 not have initially been sent down to his farm, 01:41:20.840 --> 01:41:23.199 but he switched places with Saul Tarvits. He 01:41:23.199 --> 01:41:28.060 swapped places with Saul Tarvits because there 01:41:28.060 --> 01:41:31.439 was a thing about... Saul thought something was 01:41:31.439 --> 01:41:33.180 up. He wasn't supposed to go there, but Saul 01:41:33.180 --> 01:41:35.199 was like, ah, it's a bit shifty when you come 01:41:35.199 --> 01:41:38.960 down with me. There was some shenanigans. Which 01:41:38.960 --> 01:41:40.760 was, for an emperor's children to give up their 01:41:40.760 --> 01:41:45.079 honour of being first in was like... Rylandor's 01:41:45.079 --> 01:41:48.100 like one of the originals of the Legion. He's, 01:41:48.199 --> 01:41:51.380 you know, he was obviously famously wounded, 01:41:51.460 --> 01:41:53.399 so he's in a redemptive dreadnought. But he was 01:41:53.399 --> 01:41:55.899 in, when Isvan III happened, he was sent down 01:41:55.899 --> 01:41:58.239 to the lower levels for a secret task. I don't 01:41:58.239 --> 01:42:01.920 think it was told. But the signal drew Fulgrim 01:42:01.920 --> 01:42:04.720 in, and there was Rylandor still alive after 01:42:04.720 --> 01:42:10.869 10... thousand years. And Fulgrim started to 01:42:10.869 --> 01:42:13.970 have his fun. He was messing with him, toying 01:42:13.970 --> 01:42:18.170 with him, saying, oh, you're going to be amazing 01:42:18.170 --> 01:42:21.569 once you fall to Slytherin. Almost trying to 01:42:21.569 --> 01:42:25.890 recreate what happened to him. But Rylenor is 01:42:25.890 --> 01:42:28.569 a true son of the Emperor and rejected Fulgrim 01:42:28.569 --> 01:42:31.119 and says, you know... i if you're if i'm going 01:42:31.119 --> 01:42:33.640 down you're coming with me try to set up some 01:42:33.640 --> 01:42:36.460 virus bomb a thousand suns kind of you know what 01:42:36.460 --> 01:42:39.819 it is it's a good violin or when call an ambulance 01:42:39.819 --> 01:42:43.960 but not for me that's what he did there was still 01:42:43.960 --> 01:42:46.800 unexploded virus bombs even though fulgrim's 01:42:46.800 --> 01:42:48.720 a demon it doesn't matter fulgrim was like saying 01:42:48.720 --> 01:42:50.539 he's gonna do horrible things to him and his 01:42:50.539 --> 01:42:54.340 soul but um the thousand suns like did a force 01:42:54.340 --> 01:42:57.890 bubble to stop the virus bomb going off, but 01:42:57.890 --> 01:43:01.149 they were so disgusted with how Fulgrim treated 01:43:01.149 --> 01:43:03.510 his own son that the Thousand Sons just basically 01:43:03.510 --> 01:43:07.050 went, screw you, Rylenor deserves this. And they 01:43:07.050 --> 01:43:10.270 let themselves die so that Rylenor's soul could 01:43:10.270 --> 01:43:14.449 ascend to the Emperor's side. And Fulgrim's form 01:43:14.449 --> 01:43:17.789 got destroyed and he had to go re -coalesce and 01:43:17.789 --> 01:43:20.149 respawn. The Thousand Sons should not be on the 01:43:20.149 --> 01:43:22.130 sign of chaos. It's so ridiculous that they are. 01:43:22.569 --> 01:43:26.810 No. Well, they're not. They're not Tzeentch worshippers, 01:43:26.829 --> 01:43:30.310 though, really. Yeah, but they sure look the 01:43:30.310 --> 01:43:35.050 part. Every Tzeentch worshipper exists. I'm not 01:43:35.050 --> 01:43:37.430 all into corruption. It's all the guys around 01:43:37.430 --> 01:43:40.630 me. I'm using it for my own gain. They also didn't 01:43:40.630 --> 01:43:42.750 have much of a choice, but at least Magnus had 01:43:42.750 --> 01:43:47.329 a choice. He was just stupid. Before we do the 01:43:47.329 --> 01:43:49.529 characters, we have some more donations, I think. 01:43:49.670 --> 01:43:53.090 We also missed Fulgrim killing Gilliman, which 01:43:53.090 --> 01:43:56.350 is my bad. We'll get to that. Cryonisaurus Rex 01:43:56.350 --> 01:43:59.890 for $2. The new Fulgrim model should have had 01:43:59.890 --> 01:44:03.189 an Ahagal face. He basically does. To be fair, 01:44:03.310 --> 01:44:06.250 you could probably 3D print that and put it on 01:44:06.250 --> 01:44:09.649 your miniature. Don't give the suggestions. No, 01:44:09.649 --> 01:44:14.270 no, no. Do it. Do it. It'd be funny. Alpha Omega, 01:44:14.529 --> 01:44:16.970 thank you for the $5. Eli gets captured and Fulgrim 01:44:16.970 --> 01:44:19.470 decides he'd make the perfect snake man demon 01:44:19.470 --> 01:44:22.229 butt plug. That's crazy, bro. That is crazy. 01:44:22.670 --> 01:44:26.869 Which way does he face? Is your head on the outside? 01:44:26.989 --> 01:44:30.949 Every way you need him to. Coochie Slayer 69. 01:44:31.409 --> 01:44:38.689 Nice. 499. Just read the third Horus Heresy book. 01:44:38.789 --> 01:44:40.930 Lucius is not a real one. Favre, it's cooler. 01:44:41.149 --> 01:44:47.289 Yeah, but this is a better duelist. I would be 01:44:47.289 --> 01:44:51.189 delighted to. Yep. I saw why you want me to take 01:44:51.189 --> 01:44:55.989 this one. Non dormant. Thank you for the tenor. 01:44:56.510 --> 01:44:58.869 Real talk of order wants to step its game up. 01:44:58.869 --> 01:45:01.470 It needs new models. Correct. Cathay is a good 01:45:01.470 --> 01:45:04.229 first step. Hopefully we have another 10 ,000 01:45:04.229 --> 01:45:08.390 steps ahead of us to take. Rip my demonet, Dommy 01:45:08.390 --> 01:45:10.890 Mommy Army. Please, James Workshop, if you update 01:45:10.890 --> 01:45:13.670 the old Ash models, my life is yours. Alright, 01:45:13.829 --> 01:45:17.170 I'm gonna say one thing about old GW models. 01:45:17.529 --> 01:45:22.189 I cried tears of joy when I realized that Swordmasters 01:45:22.189 --> 01:45:26.090 of Hoeth, you just put them in the base. I know 01:45:26.090 --> 01:45:30.590 it's like, yeah, customization is great, but 01:45:30.590 --> 01:45:34.810 it's so easy, man. They're just one piece? Yeah. 01:45:35.440 --> 01:45:40.199 Except for the unit champions. Lord of the Rings 01:45:40.199 --> 01:45:43.520 stuff is like that too. Jack N for 10 bucks. 01:45:43.800 --> 01:45:45.680 Might have already said this, but if I don't 01:45:45.680 --> 01:45:47.939 get a Trazen and Clone Grimm Adventures book, 01:45:48.100 --> 01:45:50.619 I'm going to find the Black Library, and when 01:45:50.619 --> 01:45:54.119 I find it, I'll be in a killdozer. Also, I'm 01:45:54.119 --> 01:45:59.319 gay. There it is. You said the thing. Recommend 01:45:59.319 --> 01:46:02.479 USA, 2 bucks. Hal uses the sounding rod of torment. 01:46:03.130 --> 01:46:07.109 yes he does that's official official do you know 01:46:07.109 --> 01:46:10.789 what do not ask where he puts it uh bean when 01:46:10.789 --> 01:46:13.710 the elder says something to slanesh phobic that 01:46:13.710 --> 01:46:15.649 you've got to hit them with the registered six 01:46:15.649 --> 01:46:19.170 defenders awesome awesome thing with five dollars 01:46:19.170 --> 01:46:28.590 thank you wow holy cow 100 thank you anthony 01:46:28.590 --> 01:46:33.069 jesus thank you very very much fulgrim makes 01:46:33.069 --> 01:46:35.470 me so sad going from his beautiful speech during 01:46:35.470 --> 01:46:38.010 the palatine phoenix book to literally being 01:46:38.010 --> 01:46:41.409 the gosh darn worst pos in the galaxy arguably 01:46:41.409 --> 01:46:44.170 yeah i agree his fault is the saddest by far 01:46:44.170 --> 01:46:46.649 in my opinion and the fight between ferris fulgrim 01:46:46.649 --> 01:46:50.550 is so freaking sad i actually gotta i actually 01:46:50.550 --> 01:46:53.789 have to after all the fulgrim glazing i actually 01:46:53.789 --> 01:46:59.430 have to contest it i really do yeah because because 01:46:59.430 --> 01:47:04.479 i'm doing i'm working on a fulgrim video so i've 01:47:04.479 --> 01:47:08.140 read every bit of fulgrim in the moment and i'm 01:47:08.140 --> 01:47:11.460 realizing like he's not that guy in terms like 01:47:11.460 --> 01:47:16.260 he's actually not super nice in terms of i think 01:47:16.260 --> 01:47:20.279 he he only is super nice because he's really 01:47:20.279 --> 01:47:22.300 afraid of what people would think if he they 01:47:22.300 --> 01:47:25.199 thought he wasn't yeah he actually doesn't do 01:47:25.199 --> 01:47:28.020 nice things generally other than for like someone 01:47:28.020 --> 01:47:30.659 like ferris and he doesn't like he says he like 01:47:30.659 --> 01:47:32.920 wants to like build his perfect future for humanity 01:47:32.920 --> 01:47:37.199 and all that stuff he does not like people like 01:47:37.199 --> 01:47:39.100 he doesn't he doesn't respect you like gilliman 01:47:39.100 --> 01:47:42.060 could respect human beings or like you know there's 01:47:42.060 --> 01:47:45.100 an elitism process yeah like fulgrim doesn't 01:47:45.100 --> 01:47:47.680 actually really perceive like like mortal humans 01:47:47.680 --> 01:47:52.340 have value in any way like he like he just he 01:47:52.340 --> 01:47:56.039 would have no like he doesn't consider them to 01:47:56.039 --> 01:47:58.039 be on his level only well the only ones he considers 01:47:58.039 --> 01:48:00.800 worth talking to are people who are like artists 01:48:00.800 --> 01:48:03.520 or someone who are literally like the best in 01:48:03.520 --> 01:48:06.140 their field or something he generally doesn't 01:48:06.140 --> 01:48:08.720 care for people that much at all grim is the 01:48:08.720 --> 01:48:12.640 typical instagram influencer confirmed and here's 01:48:12.640 --> 01:48:16.079 the thing like as far as like oh i feel sad for 01:48:16.079 --> 01:48:19.039 this primark i don't have any sympathy for fulgrim 01:48:19.039 --> 01:48:22.619 because angron literally had like big spikes 01:48:22.619 --> 01:48:26.079 put in his brain matter that's Yeah, but that 01:48:26.079 --> 01:48:29.260 doesn't make his fall isn't sad because he already 01:48:29.260 --> 01:48:31.699 was screwed from the start. He didn't have anywhere 01:48:31.699 --> 01:48:36.420 to fall to. How can he prevent that? Fulgrim 01:48:36.420 --> 01:48:39.159 could have done a skill issue. Fulgrim had a 01:48:39.159 --> 01:48:40.399 skill issue. He was like, hey, maybe don't be 01:48:40.399 --> 01:48:46.180 cringe. Gilliman was like, hey, when Farron was 01:48:46.180 --> 01:48:47.819 like, hey, join Chaos, I'm going to stick this 01:48:47.819 --> 01:48:50.199 dagger in you. He's like, do you worse? Gilliman 01:48:50.199 --> 01:48:54.640 resisted the fraud of Chaos twice. so many loyalists 01:48:54.640 --> 01:48:58.079 resisted chaos like the loyalist was like enticed 01:48:58.079 --> 01:49:00.239 by the lord what's his name uh kairos fake weaver 01:49:00.239 --> 01:49:03.359 and he's like hey man you could come join us 01:49:03.359 --> 01:49:07.340 he's like cringe as he put his blade through 01:49:07.340 --> 01:49:09.500 its face didn't see that coming was literally 01:49:09.500 --> 01:49:12.260 like verbatim what he said hey you can see the 01:49:12.260 --> 01:49:14.279 future do you see this like that was the line 01:49:14.279 --> 01:49:18.779 and then fogum's like my sword it whispers to 01:49:18.779 --> 01:49:21.260 me it tells me stories when i'm going to sleep 01:49:21.260 --> 01:49:24.500 it's the plot device bro there's one scene which 01:49:24.500 --> 01:49:27.539 everyone points to like the fulgrim like like 01:49:27.539 --> 01:49:29.300 putting the child on his shoulders telling you 01:49:29.300 --> 01:49:31.279 know raise humanity on the big scene which is 01:49:31.279 --> 01:49:33.539 like his like greatest one of his greatest moments 01:49:33.539 --> 01:49:38.539 supposedly the whole thing is a show to get an 01:49:38.539 --> 01:49:42.340 assassination to reveal assassins so he puts 01:49:42.340 --> 01:49:46.239 a child like you know human shoulders realizing 01:49:46.239 --> 01:49:49.399 like he's putting on a show to get shot at so 01:49:49.399 --> 01:49:53.800 like i don't and like that fulgrim primark book 01:49:53.800 --> 01:49:57.659 does not do him like any favor literally because 01:49:57.659 --> 01:50:01.920 it gets into his mind it shows like he he literally 01:50:01.920 --> 01:50:06.220 is an idiot and magnus is a primark so stiff 01:50:06.220 --> 01:50:12.079 competition The human beings of that world almost 01:50:12.079 --> 01:50:15.199 kill him because they literally, and even one 01:50:15.199 --> 01:50:17.100 of the human characters who works for Malkador 01:50:17.100 --> 01:50:21.239 says, it's terrifying. He is like a child begging 01:50:21.239 --> 01:50:26.020 for praise. They said his arrogance will become 01:50:26.020 --> 01:50:28.000 the real thing at one point and that will be 01:50:28.000 --> 01:50:31.880 terrifying. And it does come full circle. Malkador 01:50:31.880 --> 01:50:33.800 basically says they were doomed to fail because 01:50:33.800 --> 01:50:35.760 they were so obsessed with being perfect. We 01:50:35.760 --> 01:50:37.960 saw it coming. And we didn't do anything like 01:50:37.960 --> 01:50:44.319 that. That's classic. It's the same way. Fulgrim's 01:50:44.319 --> 01:50:48.340 only the greatest Primarch in a sense. You can 01:50:48.340 --> 01:50:51.279 ignore the very glaring fact that he's an awful 01:50:51.279 --> 01:50:53.319 person. He's not the person he's pretending to 01:50:53.319 --> 01:50:57.170 be. Which I, because I used to really like Fulgrim, 01:50:57.210 --> 01:50:59.529 and then the more I, it's funny, because the 01:50:59.529 --> 01:51:01.729 more I read about him, the less I like about 01:51:01.729 --> 01:51:04.789 him. The less I like him. Whereas with Gilliman, 01:51:04.810 --> 01:51:07.369 another character, I like Gilliman the more I 01:51:07.369 --> 01:51:09.829 read about him. Whereas Fulgrim, even in his 01:51:09.829 --> 01:51:12.590 supposedly best moment, there's something really 01:51:12.590 --> 01:51:16.689 wrong with him. He's a G, and in the first Horus 01:51:16.689 --> 01:51:18.649 Heresy book, he is great, but the book that was 01:51:18.649 --> 01:51:21.029 written ten years later, they clearly had different 01:51:21.029 --> 01:51:24.130 ideas for his character. yeah so what are you 01:51:24.130 --> 01:51:26.310 gonna do uh we should that's i think that's just 01:51:26.310 --> 01:51:28.670 a skill issue on the author's decision making 01:51:28.670 --> 01:51:31.250 if i'm being honest same thing with magnus the 01:51:31.250 --> 01:51:34.590 stupid awful character i'm sorry i'm sorry mike 01:51:34.590 --> 01:51:38.470 but i don't i don't gel with him on time because 01:51:38.470 --> 01:51:40.409 i'm aware like i don't fall for the whole oh 01:51:40.409 --> 01:51:43.109 he's such a nice guy you know like everyone liked 01:51:43.109 --> 01:51:45.510 him we couldn't see it coming you know i don't 01:51:45.510 --> 01:51:50.569 fall for that never so like it's why i like you 01:51:50.569 --> 01:51:54.000 know i don't I think the Emperor's children, 01:51:54.119 --> 01:51:55.619 though, are very... Getting into the character 01:51:55.619 --> 01:51:58.060 of Emperor's children, there's actually some 01:51:58.060 --> 01:52:00.340 very interesting characters. Luckily, they have 01:52:00.340 --> 01:52:02.279 some really well -written characters. We'll start 01:52:02.279 --> 01:52:04.380 with the first one, which is Fabius Bile, who 01:52:04.380 --> 01:52:07.300 is the apothecary of the Legion, as Eli mentioned 01:52:07.300 --> 01:52:10.539 very early on in the episode. Interesting at 01:52:10.539 --> 01:52:13.619 the time now. When the Emperor's children were 01:52:13.619 --> 01:52:16.319 being formed, they were taken from nobles. One 01:52:16.319 --> 01:52:19.000 such as Eidolon or Fabius, they came from noble 01:52:19.000 --> 01:52:22.300 families. Fabius, not giving his entire lore, 01:52:22.399 --> 01:52:24.359 but he was very much a tinkerer. He was like 01:52:24.359 --> 01:52:28.039 a bit of a scholar, quiet child. And then he 01:52:28.039 --> 01:52:30.000 would go on to be an apothecary in the Emperor's 01:52:30.000 --> 01:52:33.039 Children Legion. He's not really known for his 01:52:33.039 --> 01:52:36.140 combat abilities or anything like that, but Fabius 01:52:36.140 --> 01:52:39.579 is very smart. Weirdly enough, probably the only 01:52:39.579 --> 01:52:41.449 Emperor's Children that's ugly. which is quite 01:52:41.449 --> 01:52:44.510 funny. They give him the nickname The Spider 01:52:44.510 --> 01:52:46.949 because he kind of is this little thing held 01:52:46.949 --> 01:52:49.270 up in his little nest, his little laboratory 01:52:49.270 --> 01:52:53.350 tinkering away. Fabius famously tried to save 01:52:53.350 --> 01:52:55.789 the Legion from the viral blight, hid the fact 01:52:55.789 --> 01:52:57.449 that he had it because he thought he was the 01:52:57.449 --> 01:53:00.210 only chance of, you know, continuing on. So he 01:53:00.210 --> 01:53:03.710 made someone else die in his place. Fabius is 01:53:03.710 --> 01:53:06.869 kind of obsessed in a way like the Emperor's 01:53:06.869 --> 01:53:09.039 Children are obsessed with things. Fabius is 01:53:09.039 --> 01:53:12.020 obsessed with finding the genetic secrets of 01:53:12.020 --> 01:53:14.680 the world. He reveres the emperor in some way 01:53:14.680 --> 01:53:17.840 and turns like he's a fellow scientist. And throughout 01:53:17.840 --> 01:53:21.060 the Great Crusade and Horus Heresy, Fabius would 01:53:21.060 --> 01:53:25.180 push the envelope a little bit. So early on, 01:53:25.220 --> 01:53:28.779 he would just sort of, you know, he does experiments. 01:53:28.899 --> 01:53:31.079 His knowledge is amazing. He's probably the best 01:53:31.079 --> 01:53:33.909 apothecary in the entire. all the legions uh 01:53:33.909 --> 01:53:36.270 by the time of the horrors heresy he just wants 01:53:36.270 --> 01:53:38.430 to go further his knowledge needs to be better 01:53:38.430 --> 01:53:40.630 experiment on the layer starts experimenting 01:53:40.630 --> 01:53:44.310 on his own legion he doesn't have a moral compass 01:53:44.310 --> 01:53:47.170 in the sense like he his whole thing is can it 01:53:47.170 --> 01:53:49.329 be done so therefore he does a lot of things 01:53:49.329 --> 01:53:52.069 he famously would go on to create his own race 01:53:52.069 --> 01:53:54.630 of people called new men or other things but 01:53:54.630 --> 01:53:56.069 again that's probably his own episode because 01:53:56.069 --> 01:54:02.989 there's so much fabulous bylaw but I thought 01:54:02.989 --> 01:54:08.869 that was the same thing that birthed Caiaphas 01:54:08.869 --> 01:54:11.850 Kane, the Death Guard member. I feel like Poop 01:54:11.850 --> 01:54:17.390 Knife comes from... At the very least, there 01:54:17.390 --> 01:54:19.210 was a Poop Knife mentioned in the Fabulous File. 01:54:20.010 --> 01:54:24.449 I remember editing the Fabulous File video and 01:54:24.449 --> 01:54:28.119 putting Poop Knife as the first... first thing 01:54:28.119 --> 01:54:32.220 as he called open. But it might not originate. 01:54:32.220 --> 01:54:33.359 You might be right. It might have originated 01:54:33.359 --> 01:54:36.140 from the quiz. As you mentioned earlier, I think 01:54:36.140 --> 01:54:38.220 Eli's mentioned stuff about Lucius. Lucius will 01:54:38.220 --> 01:54:39.500 probably be his own episode, so I don't want 01:54:39.500 --> 01:54:43.119 to drag too much into it, but he's an awful character. 01:54:44.520 --> 01:54:46.859 Eidolon, who's another big character for the 01:54:46.859 --> 01:54:48.939 Emperor's Children. Eidolon is someone who you 01:54:48.939 --> 01:54:50.699 meet quite early on in the Horus Heresy books 01:54:50.699 --> 01:54:55.460 as an incompetent. He, again, is like... Fabius, 01:54:55.500 --> 01:54:59.600 he's the second son of a noble family, been with 01:54:59.600 --> 01:55:03.420 the Legion since its beginning. Eidolon is very 01:55:03.420 --> 01:55:06.180 much the embodiment early on of the Legion's 01:55:06.180 --> 01:55:10.399 pride. He even looks down upon Chemosians. So 01:55:10.399 --> 01:55:14.340 he was a Terran, he thought. He's the epitome 01:55:14.340 --> 01:55:20.159 of punchable face. Very much so. His pride. was 01:55:20.159 --> 01:55:22.899 beyond even possibly Fulgrim's. He was one of 01:55:22.899 --> 01:55:25.520 the Lord Commanders, other than with Vespasian 01:55:25.520 --> 01:55:27.699 as well. He was one of the other Lord Commanders 01:55:27.699 --> 01:55:30.300 of the Legion. They were essentially vying for 01:55:30.300 --> 01:55:34.619 Fulgrim's biggest cuck boy in the entire Legion. 01:55:36.020 --> 01:55:39.720 Eidolon would famously go on to be the point 01:55:39.720 --> 01:55:41.960 at which he's trying to make himself be known 01:55:41.960 --> 01:55:44.500 so much that he makes a massive faux pas on the 01:55:44.500 --> 01:55:47.020 world of murder and sends Legion in to claim 01:55:47.020 --> 01:55:51.029 glory. messes up completely Saul Tarvis you know 01:55:51.029 --> 01:55:54.689 a beloved character from um said the Horus Heresy 01:55:54.689 --> 01:55:57.189 series you know he's a straight shooter and he's 01:55:57.189 --> 01:55:59.810 nothing like Eidolon and this is where we sort 01:55:59.810 --> 01:56:01.369 of first meet Eidolon was like he's like a stuck 01:56:01.369 --> 01:56:04.310 up you know wealthy aristocratic guy he's like 01:56:04.310 --> 01:56:06.909 I done no wrong whatsoever and the commander 01:56:06.909 --> 01:56:09.689 as well yeah he's like a really high ranking 01:56:09.689 --> 01:56:12.010 character he claims other people's achievements 01:56:12.010 --> 01:56:15.479 as his own But he famously gets his tail between 01:56:15.479 --> 01:56:18.560 his legs, knows to shut up when, you know, horrors 01:56:18.560 --> 01:56:23.239 reprimand him. But Eidolon starts to change when 01:56:23.239 --> 01:56:26.800 the Slaanesh corruption hits because Eidolon 01:56:26.800 --> 01:56:31.939 is very much like he thinks he's the best, but 01:56:31.939 --> 01:56:34.000 he doesn't have the stuff to back it up. But 01:56:34.000 --> 01:56:36.859 once the Slaaneshi corruption thing starts permeating 01:56:36.859 --> 01:56:40.600 the Legion, he starts to gain power. He is forcibly 01:56:40.600 --> 01:56:43.460 taken by Fabius and experimented upon. He gets 01:56:43.460 --> 01:56:46.720 a sonic organ implanted into his neck, which 01:56:46.720 --> 01:56:48.220 means that when he unleashes a scream, which 01:56:48.220 --> 01:56:50.260 he first unleashes on the Eldar maiden world, 01:56:50.600 --> 01:56:53.359 he has a sonic scream kind of like a wave serpent. 01:56:53.720 --> 01:56:57.100 Yeah, he kind of like what the noise marines 01:56:57.100 --> 01:56:59.079 have in their guns. He has one in his own throat. 01:56:59.640 --> 01:57:02.380 He has this massive auric hammer that he carries 01:57:02.380 --> 01:57:05.399 around with him. And when the Horus Heresy starts, 01:57:05.800 --> 01:57:09.840 he is right by Fulgrim's side. leads the Istvan 01:57:09.840 --> 01:57:13.779 III massacre. Then Fulgrim at one point, who's 01:57:13.779 --> 01:57:16.600 pretending to be the demon still here, he questions 01:57:16.600 --> 01:57:19.920 Fulgrim. He gets his head shot off. They drink 01:57:19.920 --> 01:57:23.260 from his blood. And then Fulgrim throws his head 01:57:23.260 --> 01:57:26.619 and body to Fabius and says, fix it. Because 01:57:26.619 --> 01:57:29.939 he might need Eidolon for something. Eidolon's 01:57:29.939 --> 01:57:35.319 spirit slash body. He was killed by the Leia 01:57:35.319 --> 01:57:37.159 Blade? I don't know. Something about Eidolon. 01:57:38.080 --> 01:57:42.739 So Eidolon, his head was reattached and his soul 01:57:42.739 --> 01:57:45.520 rejoined to his body. But from ever this point 01:57:45.520 --> 01:57:48.359 onward, he would be a scarred, ugly mess of a 01:57:48.359 --> 01:57:51.100 thing. And something within him is even more 01:57:51.100 --> 01:57:56.060 changed and worse. He's like pretty much, he 01:57:56.060 --> 01:57:58.060 embraces essentially corruption fully. And this, 01:57:58.159 --> 01:58:00.899 weirdly enough, now he has like his arrogance 01:58:00.899 --> 01:58:03.760 and his like supreme headstrongness. Now with 01:58:03.760 --> 01:58:06.880 the corruption, he can actually back it up. So 01:58:06.880 --> 01:58:08.439 when he goes on throughout the horror series, 01:58:08.500 --> 01:58:11.380 he fights the White Scars. He learns how to fight 01:58:11.380 --> 01:58:16.300 White Scars. He ends up killing their... Sorry. 01:58:18.560 --> 01:58:20.520 Which one of the White Scars does he kill? The 01:58:20.520 --> 01:58:23.340 famous one of Jagatai's friends. He kills Kinshaw. 01:58:23.460 --> 01:58:26.500 He kills Kinshaw. He kills the first captain. 01:58:26.859 --> 01:58:29.699 He sets a trap for them. He starts working with 01:58:29.699 --> 01:58:32.520 Mortarion at some point, but he doesn't really 01:58:32.520 --> 01:58:35.489 like Mortarion at all. Then there's a new Eidolon 01:58:35.489 --> 01:58:38.229 book, which is basically the Emperor's Children 01:58:38.229 --> 01:58:42.050 are recalled to go fight the war on terror. Eidolon 01:58:42.050 --> 01:58:45.270 is haunted. There's actually a decent book, I'd 01:58:45.270 --> 01:58:48.710 say. Eidolon is haunted by this weird mirror 01:58:48.710 --> 01:58:52.510 creature thing throughout this book. They're 01:58:52.510 --> 01:58:53.850 trying to get closer towards terror, but their 01:58:53.850 --> 01:58:55.689 ship's being under attack. At this point, the 01:58:55.689 --> 01:58:57.779 Emperor's Children are fully... you know like 01:58:57.779 --> 01:59:00.640 they're they have extra mandibles eyes are bulging 01:59:00.640 --> 01:59:02.800 things like flies and skin is everywhere like 01:59:02.800 --> 01:59:05.119 they are fully in their corruption and then they 01:59:05.119 --> 01:59:07.619 land upon this eidolon and his war band he managed 01:59:07.619 --> 01:59:10.600 to scratch out like a third of the legion under 01:59:10.600 --> 01:59:14.180 his banner they arrived to this world where it 01:59:14.180 --> 01:59:15.979 was the first one of the first worlds the legion 01:59:15.979 --> 01:59:19.000 conquered and it was where Eidolon basically 01:59:19.000 --> 01:59:21.779 made himself as a Lord Commander. The whole world 01:59:21.779 --> 01:59:24.100 is quite close to terror. There's statues of 01:59:24.100 --> 01:59:27.060 him and Fulgrim in their prime, and it's basically 01:59:27.060 --> 01:59:31.300 the world is where he became famous. They meet 01:59:31.300 --> 01:59:33.659 with a Sons of Horus warband who they don't really 01:59:33.659 --> 01:59:36.239 get along with, and they think they're the ones 01:59:36.239 --> 01:59:37.779 who've been messing with them with this demon 01:59:37.779 --> 01:59:40.340 attacking them. So they agreed, like, hey... 01:59:40.619 --> 01:59:42.380 you know what we're quite close to terror let's 01:59:42.380 --> 01:59:45.100 just attack this world together they do so the 01:59:45.100 --> 01:59:47.300 place where eidolon made his name he makes his 01:59:47.300 --> 01:59:51.500 name again um they go down to attack it then 01:59:51.500 --> 01:59:53.300 for some reason the emperor's children they're 01:59:53.300 --> 01:59:56.420 so looted and corrupted up by this point they 01:59:56.420 --> 01:59:58.680 start a few of them just start attacking the 01:59:58.680 --> 02:00:01.590 sons of horus The Sons of Horus then attack Eidolon 02:00:01.590 --> 02:00:03.329 because they think, you know, you betrayed us. 02:00:03.390 --> 02:00:05.630 And Eidolon is like, whoa, dude, what the hell? 02:00:05.770 --> 02:00:09.069 At this point, he literally laughs at his own 02:00:09.069 --> 02:00:11.310 like, you know what? It's inevitable. He's literally 02:00:11.310 --> 02:00:13.130 not like once this war is over, we're going to 02:00:13.130 --> 02:00:16.829 all kill each other. It's correct. And then they 02:00:16.829 --> 02:00:21.149 managed to fight off and really massacre the 02:00:21.149 --> 02:00:24.069 Sons of Horus warband pretty easily because of 02:00:24.069 --> 02:00:26.310 the strength of the Emperor's children are faster 02:00:26.310 --> 02:00:29.819 than they have better weapons than them. obviously 02:00:29.819 --> 02:00:31.880 with them being focused on one thing for once 02:00:31.880 --> 02:00:34.500 which is killing other legionaries they actually 02:00:34.500 --> 02:00:38.180 can do it and Eidolon is then haunted by this 02:00:38.180 --> 02:00:42.319 demon and he realizes it's him the demon is a 02:00:42.319 --> 02:00:44.920 manifestation created from his own death so it's 02:00:44.920 --> 02:00:47.060 the other part of his like soul which has been 02:00:47.060 --> 02:00:50.640 twisted by corruption and it says like it tells 02:00:50.640 --> 02:00:54.020 him embrace demonhood like your father did you 02:00:54.020 --> 02:00:55.640 know, do it, you know, let's see how much more 02:00:55.640 --> 02:00:58.079 powerful you become. But Eidolon says, I will 02:00:58.079 --> 02:01:01.500 not be a slave. You know, he's like, I am, I 02:01:01.500 --> 02:01:03.579 am the perfect, which is quite, you know, quite 02:01:03.579 --> 02:01:05.859 healthy. He says, I'm the perfect. Eidolon literally, 02:01:05.979 --> 02:01:10.079 don't you know who I am? Like, okay, mate. Good 02:01:10.079 --> 02:01:12.699 advice for your brothers here. He says, great 02:01:12.699 --> 02:01:15.060 line, which he says, he says, I am the best version 02:01:15.060 --> 02:01:17.319 of myself. which we should all think when we 02:01:17.319 --> 02:01:19.279 look in the mirror. That's the attitude you should 02:01:19.279 --> 02:01:21.800 take in your everyday life, unless you are Eidolon. 02:01:21.960 --> 02:01:23.579 You are not the best version of yourself. Which 02:01:23.579 --> 02:01:25.319 is funny, because he's incredibly scarred and 02:01:25.319 --> 02:01:28.520 ugly, but his armor is tainted and has faces 02:01:28.520 --> 02:01:30.119 and everything. Hey, hey, beauty's in the eye 02:01:30.119 --> 02:01:34.119 of the beholder. Leave him alone. Truly. Eidolon... 02:01:34.119 --> 02:01:37.600 That side -parting is bad. Yeah. At the end of 02:01:37.600 --> 02:01:40.479 the book, when the ashes of this whole planet 02:01:40.479 --> 02:01:44.060 and the Sands of Horus, Fulgrim appears. And 02:01:44.060 --> 02:01:46.970 Fulgrim says, you know, oh were you having fun 02:01:46.970 --> 02:01:49.350 did you like my little game and i'm like what 02:01:49.350 --> 02:01:53.489 and he realizes like the soul that was taken 02:01:53.489 --> 02:01:56.029 like his part of his soul that was in the warp 02:01:56.029 --> 02:01:59.409 fulgrim had molded it and twisted it into a demon 02:01:59.409 --> 02:02:02.409 and then sent it back to go horn eidolon and 02:02:02.409 --> 02:02:03.930 all the emperor's children because like some 02:02:03.930 --> 02:02:06.930 of the ships had died to this thing and thanks 02:02:06.930 --> 02:02:10.649 dad uh The Eidolon at the end of the bit, he 02:02:10.649 --> 02:02:13.210 offers this soul as a sacrifice to Slaanesh, 02:02:13.210 --> 02:02:15.170 and he'll stay a human, but just corrupted by 02:02:15.170 --> 02:02:17.789 Slaanesh. And Eidolon just tells Fulgrim to his 02:02:17.789 --> 02:02:20.789 face, like, you're a slave. I'm the real deal. 02:02:21.329 --> 02:02:25.430 I'm a champion of Slaanesh, and I'm the real 02:02:25.430 --> 02:02:27.970 thing. I can make my own destiny. I'm the one 02:02:27.970 --> 02:02:30.550 in charge. And Fulgrim just is like, you know, 02:02:30.590 --> 02:02:33.329 really? He's like, you're not even playing the 02:02:33.329 --> 02:02:35.289 game, bro. You don't even know you're a piece 02:02:35.289 --> 02:02:37.590 on the board. I'm putting pieces on the board. 02:02:37.729 --> 02:02:40.949 I'm playing a game that's galaxy wide. You're 02:02:40.949 --> 02:02:42.810 not playing checkers. I'm playing chess, bro. 02:02:43.010 --> 02:02:45.850 Oh, thanks, dad. Literally, but again, because 02:02:45.850 --> 02:02:48.970 Fulgrim can't perceive Eidolon has free will 02:02:48.970 --> 02:02:51.949 in some capacity and then Eidolon can't see why 02:02:51.949 --> 02:02:54.729 he'd ever become a demon because what's the point 02:02:54.729 --> 02:02:56.850 in being like Fulgrim? He can't even, Fulgrim 02:02:56.850 --> 02:02:58.189 can't, he's literally like Fulgrim can't even 02:02:58.189 --> 02:03:01.460 change anymore. fulgrim is is a force he's an 02:03:01.460 --> 02:03:04.539 immutable thing he can't even grow whereas eidolon 02:03:04.539 --> 02:03:08.079 has plenty more to do um but then fulgrim was 02:03:08.079 --> 02:03:11.119 like well you know what i've been enjoying this 02:03:11.119 --> 02:03:13.579 so much in fact i might do this more i might 02:03:13.579 --> 02:03:16.979 tease you i might manipulate i might harass you 02:03:16.979 --> 02:03:19.439 guys more just because it makes you like you 02:03:19.439 --> 02:03:21.180 come out stronger from this eidolon didn't you 02:03:21.180 --> 02:03:25.520 he's like yeah you know yes daddy i guess and 02:03:25.520 --> 02:03:27.359 i said so fulcrum's like i'm gonna do this more 02:03:27.359 --> 02:03:29.020 often because this is all this is this is what 02:03:29.020 --> 02:03:31.520 makes me have fun and then he says like now we 02:03:31.520 --> 02:03:34.060 press on to terror uh because they're literally 02:03:34.060 --> 02:03:35.840 just near terror but actually i think it's a 02:03:35.840 --> 02:03:37.279 pretty good book the island book and it makes 02:03:37.279 --> 02:03:40.460 this character uh cool interesting uh empress 02:03:40.460 --> 02:03:43.739 children character it's it's weird that lucius 02:03:43.739 --> 02:03:45.939 became the champion of slanesh instead of eidolon 02:03:45.939 --> 02:03:49.319 i don't really i think because it's more about 02:03:49.319 --> 02:03:53.399 embodiment lucius is um again like eidolon is 02:03:53.399 --> 02:03:57.149 more of a is what Horace thinks he is in terms 02:03:57.149 --> 02:03:59.710 of like, yeah, he is more advice than Nash, but 02:03:59.710 --> 02:04:03.449 Eidolon has plans that are in the material universe. 02:04:03.609 --> 02:04:06.869 Whereas Lucius is just, I like killing this. 02:04:06.930 --> 02:04:10.630 I mean, I have a weird take on it. Like, are 02:04:10.630 --> 02:04:13.949 you familiar with the different hormones that 02:04:13.949 --> 02:04:17.819 give you like pleasure as drugs? So you're like 02:04:17.819 --> 02:04:20.819 EDSO, endorphins, dopamine, serotonin. Insulin. 02:04:20.840 --> 02:04:27.140 Oh, yeah, baby. Put that shit in my veins. Generally 02:04:27.140 --> 02:04:30.180 speaking, you can divide them into ED are the 02:04:30.180 --> 02:04:33.199 selfish drugs and so are the good ones. So like 02:04:33.199 --> 02:04:36.579 you can't really overdose on serotonin or oxytocin, 02:04:36.640 --> 02:04:39.020 which is like the task -completing drug and the 02:04:39.020 --> 02:04:41.880 human contact drug. But endorphins and dopamine, 02:04:42.140 --> 02:04:44.680 like you can gamble all you want. You can drink 02:04:44.680 --> 02:04:48.000 all you want. eat as much food as you want and 02:04:48.000 --> 02:04:50.420 i think like lucius he doesn't know when to stop 02:04:50.420 --> 02:04:52.840 he doesn't have a good opinion of himself so 02:04:52.840 --> 02:04:55.380 like eidlon's more like ah i can have a healthy 02:04:55.380 --> 02:04:59.060 balance than i can be like no i don't want to 02:04:59.060 --> 02:05:01.979 be a full -on demon whereas lucius is like give 02:05:01.979 --> 02:05:05.199 it put it in my veins give me all the give me 02:05:05.199 --> 02:05:10.729 all the stimuli and it's like quite handily compared 02:05:10.729 --> 02:05:14.029 to um i'll read off i have a slight part from 02:05:14.029 --> 02:05:16.270 the excerpt i'll finish it on just because it's 02:05:16.270 --> 02:05:19.930 so um like it just makes sense what like he says 02:05:19.930 --> 02:05:23.909 like fulgrim is saying like you know literally 02:05:23.909 --> 02:05:26.590 like oh you know i did all this and other things 02:05:26.590 --> 02:05:29.859 i think i And then Eidolon is like, Fulgrim's 02:05:29.859 --> 02:05:31.140 like, oh, you know, you're just so weak. And 02:05:31.140 --> 02:05:33.000 then Eidolon tells him, you know, I am made in 02:05:33.000 --> 02:05:35.359 your image, shaped by your teachings and your 02:05:35.359 --> 02:05:39.859 failings. So he just tells Fulgrim. I know you 02:05:39.859 --> 02:05:43.199 are, what am I? I have, I was like, I have greatness 02:05:43.199 --> 02:05:45.920 enough already. You know, he just says that I 02:05:45.920 --> 02:05:49.720 am, you know, I'm him. I wasn't him, but I'm 02:05:49.720 --> 02:05:54.380 him now. You're a slave. So I'd like an actual 02:05:54.380 --> 02:05:56.550 Empress Georgian character that is. Finally, 02:05:56.590 --> 02:05:58.210 somehow they managed to turn it around from what 02:05:58.210 --> 02:06:00.970 is a preview of his initial meeting of Eidolon, 02:06:01.050 --> 02:06:03.170 but I find him probably the more fascinating 02:06:03.170 --> 02:06:05.729 Emperor's Children character now, other than 02:06:05.729 --> 02:06:09.029 Fabius is pretty good. Fabius gets a lot of nice 02:06:09.029 --> 02:06:13.770 attention at least. Other minor characters, unfortunately, 02:06:13.989 --> 02:06:16.649 for the Emperor's Children have either Saul Tarvis 02:06:16.649 --> 02:06:19.050 from Great Crusades, like a straight shooter. 02:06:19.529 --> 02:06:23.850 He's dead. Solomon, who's one of the captains 02:06:23.850 --> 02:06:26.979 who... was nice, is dead. Like a lot of the ones 02:06:26.979 --> 02:06:32.060 who are level head, or Vespasian as well. Maris 02:06:32.060 --> 02:06:35.119 Vyrosian, dead. Although I love Maris Vyrosian 02:06:35.119 --> 02:06:38.220 becomes a noise marine. He fights an iron hand 02:06:38.220 --> 02:06:40.199 and the first time he deafens him with his noise 02:06:40.199 --> 02:06:42.760 marine blaster, and then it bites him in the 02:06:42.760 --> 02:06:45.380 bum because then he becomes deaf. So while all 02:06:45.380 --> 02:06:49.300 the others are like, ah, this really hurts. I 02:06:49.300 --> 02:06:50.640 can't remember his name, the iron hand guy goes, 02:06:50.739 --> 02:06:57.489 ha ha ha, I don't care. yeah thanks mate and 02:06:57.489 --> 02:07:00.050 yeah that's kind of funny but that is the predominant 02:07:00.050 --> 02:07:02.350 emperor's children characters now i think that's 02:07:02.350 --> 02:07:05.510 for the lost that's kind of there's a little 02:07:05.510 --> 02:07:10.289 bit more yeah well we didn't mention that fulgrim 02:07:10.289 --> 02:07:13.729 bodied gilliman uh a bit a while after the hair 02:07:15.279 --> 02:07:18.119 it was no it was like it was easy before gilliman 02:07:18.119 --> 02:07:20.300 tried kill him and tried he said i'm going to 02:07:20.300 --> 02:07:22.060 go in there i'm going to try my best but i'm 02:07:22.060 --> 02:07:23.960 probably going to lose so you guys let it happen 02:07:23.960 --> 02:07:29.180 because there'd be no 40k otherwise yeah cope 02:07:29.180 --> 02:07:32.819 cope go harder uh program absolutely destroys 02:07:32.819 --> 02:07:34.819 gilliman and then his sons come in and you know 02:07:34.819 --> 02:07:37.699 shoot bolters at him and then he runs away mvp 02:07:37.699 --> 02:07:40.300 a and ed field now a captain like oh shit and 02:07:40.300 --> 02:07:42.220 like yeah they have like the nova marines the 02:07:42.220 --> 02:07:44.380 aurora marines they have like a bunch of the 02:07:44.380 --> 02:07:48.119 successes and they're like gilliman is down what 02:07:48.119 --> 02:07:52.340 uh hold the line get gilliman the hell out of 02:07:52.340 --> 02:07:56.579 there yeah he poisons him which is why he was 02:07:56.579 --> 02:08:01.329 in stasis for 10 000 years um and he also used 02:08:01.329 --> 02:08:04.250 the wound on where corferon stabbed him with 02:08:04.250 --> 02:08:07.750 the anaphane dagger and so fulgrim saw the scar 02:08:07.750 --> 02:08:11.029 and was like weak point and it went in easier 02:08:11.029 --> 02:08:14.649 yeah so they say and um we really we didn't talk 02:08:14.649 --> 02:08:17.470 about lucius wait lucius will get his own episode 02:08:17.470 --> 02:08:22.630 we can i can briefly talk about him uh he there's 02:08:22.630 --> 02:08:25.609 really not much to say unfortunately other than 02:08:25.609 --> 02:08:29.569 a big episode but he was one of the best duelists 02:08:29.569 --> 02:08:31.890 of the legion he took w after w in the horse 02:08:31.890 --> 02:08:34.310 heresy he like literally i don't think he ever 02:08:34.310 --> 02:08:38.510 lost in the olden days uh but then they got corrupted 02:08:38.510 --> 02:08:42.369 by slash and he he lost a fight to logan because 02:08:42.369 --> 02:08:45.329 logan literally cheated uh and he went crazy 02:08:45.329 --> 02:08:47.289 after that he did he did it was a sword fight 02:08:47.289 --> 02:08:49.409 and he punched him it's a lit it's a sword it's 02:08:49.409 --> 02:08:52.250 an agreed -upon sword fight with set rules to 02:08:52.250 --> 02:08:55.229 fight with also so not so not from the thousand 02:08:55.229 --> 02:08:57.649 suns held his own against him without much trouble 02:08:58.170 --> 02:08:59.569 because he could see into the future and see 02:08:59.569 --> 02:09:01.630 what he was doing with his sword attack so he 02:09:01.630 --> 02:09:03.569 literally joins the band of thousand sons and 02:09:03.569 --> 02:09:05.590 they're like why are you here and he's like i 02:09:05.590 --> 02:09:08.369 want to kill i want to fight that guy and he's 02:09:08.369 --> 02:09:10.810 like not now i'm busy and that's like the whole 02:09:10.810 --> 02:09:13.149 book he's just like can i fight he's like no 02:09:13.149 --> 02:09:16.329 i'm busy yeah but after after that though before 02:09:16.329 --> 02:09:18.449 he was still obsessed with being the best swordsman 02:09:18.449 --> 02:09:23.109 and then after he loses to logan uh he was corrupted 02:09:23.109 --> 02:09:27.430 by himself it was not fair it's clear he starts 02:09:27.430 --> 02:09:29.770 to scar himself it was no it was no whole boss 02:09:29.770 --> 02:09:32.409 it was no whole boss after every minute like 02:09:32.409 --> 02:09:34.270 thing that he thinks he did wrong he starts to 02:09:34.270 --> 02:09:37.210 scar himself um which is why he has a bajillion 02:09:37.210 --> 02:09:41.989 scars on his face then gets into the angel exterminatus 02:09:41.989 --> 02:09:45.430 shero can kills him uh and his curse starts where 02:09:45.430 --> 02:09:49.829 whenever he dies if the person who kills him 02:09:49.829 --> 02:09:52.180 takes any pride in it or not if we're being re 02:09:52.180 --> 02:09:54.680 if we're being real the rule doesn't really exist 02:09:54.680 --> 02:09:57.399 it's just what the lower says uh then they will 02:09:57.399 --> 02:09:59.180 eventually turn into lucius and he'll take over 02:09:59.180 --> 02:10:01.500 their body and soul and their face will be added 02:10:01.500 --> 02:10:06.079 to the armor of shrieking souls and he is basically 02:10:06.079 --> 02:10:09.460 tormented by these screaming souls all the time 02:10:09.460 --> 02:10:12.020 unless he takes drugs and then they it goes away 02:10:12.020 --> 02:10:16.039 for a little bit but it's described as having 02:10:16.039 --> 02:10:21.060 dozens of souls so like 12 to 96. And those don't 02:10:21.060 --> 02:10:23.359 actually include lost duels. Some of them are 02:10:23.359 --> 02:10:25.079 lost duels. Some of them are random deaths because 02:10:25.079 --> 02:10:27.979 they like to put them in silly situations. And 02:10:27.979 --> 02:10:32.319 now he just roams around fighting duels wherever 02:10:32.319 --> 02:10:34.520 he can find them. So he probably fights more 02:10:34.520 --> 02:10:36.739 than any character in Warhammer and he wins like 02:10:36.739 --> 02:10:41.479 99 % of the time. He is pretty goaded, but he's 02:10:41.479 --> 02:10:43.279 just a jerk and he has no redeeming qualities. 02:10:43.420 --> 02:10:45.060 He's a really good swordsman and that's kind 02:10:45.060 --> 02:10:47.340 of his entire character. and then even if he 02:10:47.340 --> 02:10:49.779 loses he comes back so he just doesn't really 02:10:49.779 --> 02:10:54.680 have to care or even try that hard um yeah yeah 02:10:54.680 --> 02:10:58.640 he has the layer blade and he has the the flesh 02:10:58.640 --> 02:11:02.479 whip uh yeah i don't know there's not much to 02:11:02.479 --> 02:11:04.659 say about him he is one of the best duelists 02:11:04.659 --> 02:11:07.340 in warhammer it's just he has no character he 02:11:07.340 --> 02:11:10.479 has no redeeming qualities and he has no reason 02:11:10.479 --> 02:11:12.840 to try harder than he did before so he doesn't 02:11:12.840 --> 02:11:15.810 have to learn from his mistakes which sucks but 02:11:15.810 --> 02:11:18.430 he has a thousand bajillion years of experience 02:11:18.430 --> 02:11:21.090 now so he's really good at what he does ten thousand 02:11:21.090 --> 02:11:23.850 years of bajillion experience yeah uh yeah depending 02:11:23.850 --> 02:11:27.350 on how warp shenanigans go but yeah um but still 02:11:27.350 --> 02:11:29.510 regardless he's won like thousands of duels and 02:11:29.510 --> 02:11:32.189 lost dozens of them so he's not a bad duelist 02:11:32.189 --> 02:11:36.680 and to say he's like such a cope thing getting 02:11:36.680 --> 02:11:41.180 ganked by a exorcist trainee chaplain domicile 02:11:41.180 --> 02:11:44.039 yeah but that was on purpose that was the whole 02:11:44.039 --> 02:11:46.420 point yeah that's the whole point of the episode 02:11:46.420 --> 02:11:51.300 he infiltrates their base i know but it's still 02:11:51.300 --> 02:11:54.300 like he used the time freezing thingy and struck 02:11:54.300 --> 02:11:56.939 him and it was like i don't know it looked pretty 02:11:56.939 --> 02:11:59.739 fair to me it looked like he was he was purposely 02:11:59.739 --> 02:12:02.079 going into that fight to lose though that was 02:12:02.079 --> 02:12:04.819 that is the point of the episode yeah it is oh 02:12:04.819 --> 02:12:09.399 my gosh oh my gosh but whatever um i don't he 02:12:09.399 --> 02:12:12.439 was leading the co -horse nasa k and i've read 02:12:12.439 --> 02:12:14.479 his book but i don't remember the end of it because 02:12:14.479 --> 02:12:17.000 he's no longer leading the co -horse nasa k so 02:12:17.000 --> 02:12:18.439 i don't actually remember what happened he made 02:12:18.439 --> 02:12:20.699 a new warband called the fault yeah they get 02:12:20.699 --> 02:12:24.859 yeah and now he's doing that um yeah i don't 02:12:24.859 --> 02:12:27.229 know he's They could have made him a bit of a 02:12:27.229 --> 02:12:28.970 cooler character, if I'm being honest. He's just 02:12:28.970 --> 02:12:31.010 a good swordsman. And everyone kind of hates 02:12:31.010 --> 02:12:33.689 him. No one likes him because he's such a jerk. 02:12:33.930 --> 02:12:37.250 And he just goes on a whim to wherever we'll 02:12:37.250 --> 02:12:38.850 have a good fighter. He doesn't really care about 02:12:38.850 --> 02:12:41.869 the people under his command. So they get screwed 02:12:41.869 --> 02:12:45.569 over a lot following him. I don't know. He's 02:12:45.569 --> 02:12:48.250 Lucius. I like him. He's the GOAT. Who am I? 02:12:48.329 --> 02:12:51.689 Who? But the new lord... He's a Slaanesh character. 02:12:51.989 --> 02:12:54.630 He does what he wants. yeah at the end of the 02:12:54.630 --> 02:12:57.729 day that is he's a slanesh character and that's 02:12:57.729 --> 02:13:00.390 yeah well whatever but the new lore the new stuff 02:13:00.390 --> 02:13:02.829 in the lore the guy we just had on the screen 02:13:02.829 --> 02:13:06.569 is a lord exalted these are actually interesting 02:13:06.569 --> 02:13:10.050 and useful slanesh uh corrupted space marines 02:13:10.050 --> 02:13:11.930 who could have thought such a thing would exist 02:13:11.930 --> 02:13:16.130 they are basically like chaos lords obsessed 02:13:16.130 --> 02:13:19.289 with warfare and being the perfect tacticians 02:13:20.140 --> 02:13:22.760 um which in turn actually makes them good at 02:13:22.760 --> 02:13:26.500 warfare and not stupid and pursuing their own 02:13:26.500 --> 02:13:29.140 personal pleasures uh because they kind of they 02:13:29.140 --> 02:13:31.859 see the war warfare as like a audience and a 02:13:31.859 --> 02:13:34.899 stage to be set and they want to completely destroy 02:13:34.899 --> 02:13:37.140 their opponents with the best tactics that you 02:13:37.140 --> 02:13:39.659 could possibly think of they use their slanesh 02:13:39.659 --> 02:13:41.939 corruption to be better at war so like they can 02:13:41.939 --> 02:13:45.640 smell fumes on the air to determine where an 02:13:45.640 --> 02:13:49.159 enemy armor position is they can like meticulously 02:13:49.159 --> 02:13:51.439 keep track of how much ammunition the enemy has 02:13:51.439 --> 02:13:54.140 left uh so that they know when they'll run out 02:13:54.140 --> 02:13:58.560 um yeah you're really saying they're like yeah 02:13:58.560 --> 02:14:05.960 like 17 rounds so they're pretty cool um that's 02:14:05.960 --> 02:14:07.539 one of the new things another new thing are the 02:14:07.539 --> 02:14:09.840 faultless blades they're the cone heads which 02:14:09.840 --> 02:14:12.819 i love you can see one kind of in the left corner 02:14:12.819 --> 02:14:17.340 like left middle of the uh those guys two swords 02:14:17.340 --> 02:14:20.979 yeah that guy um these guys are jerks they're 02:14:20.979 --> 02:14:22.939 described as being like so pompous and stuck 02:14:22.939 --> 02:14:25.060 up that other emperor's children don't like them 02:14:25.060 --> 02:14:27.800 and get annoyed with them because of how incredibly 02:14:27.800 --> 02:14:30.640 prideful they are they're obsessed with swordsmanship 02:14:30.640 --> 02:14:34.420 they put on incredible like crazy shows and crazy 02:14:34.420 --> 02:14:37.720 feats of swordsmanship and duels they're obsessed 02:14:37.720 --> 02:14:41.119 with dueling and like so wacky are the things 02:14:41.119 --> 02:14:43.399 that they can pull off that they get the attention 02:14:43.399 --> 02:14:45.539 of demons and the demons like sing to them and 02:14:45.539 --> 02:14:48.300 uh the demons will help them kind of and grab 02:14:48.300 --> 02:14:51.859 them power but if they don't put on a pleasing 02:14:51.859 --> 02:14:53.560 performance to the demons and the demons will 02:14:53.560 --> 02:14:56.079 eat them pretty much that's the fall display 02:14:56.079 --> 02:15:00.239 they have drugs and search andy some um some 02:15:00.239 --> 02:15:02.460 of the images of the new the new models andy 02:15:02.460 --> 02:15:05.500 if you have those i certainly okay very good 02:15:05.500 --> 02:15:08.279 i'll have to download them then another new unit 02:15:08.279 --> 02:15:12.210 is the lord cough and i uh they're like noise 02:15:12.210 --> 02:15:15.289 marines plus they have more surgical alterations 02:15:15.289 --> 02:15:17.670 and more corruption uh they have like things 02:15:17.670 --> 02:15:19.329 going through their bodies so the doom sirens 02:15:19.329 --> 02:15:22.390 on their backs play all the noises that go on 02:15:22.390 --> 02:15:25.689 in their body times a bajillion uh they can hear 02:15:25.689 --> 02:15:29.090 like distant sounds in the warp and kind of like 02:15:29.090 --> 02:15:32.109 use those sounds to better their cacophony noise 02:15:32.109 --> 02:15:35.390 marines in the area uh yeah they're just kind 02:15:35.390 --> 02:15:37.810 of like strong noise marines then there's another 02:15:37.810 --> 02:15:44.310 one oh the tormentors and Oh, my gosh. Infractors. 02:15:44.369 --> 02:15:46.789 Yeah, let me just check which one is which real 02:15:46.789 --> 02:15:52.270 quick. Okay, the tormentors are... Tormentors, 02:15:52.270 --> 02:15:55.250 surprisingly, are not the melee ones. Really? 02:15:55.329 --> 02:15:59.090 Yeah, they are the true epitome of the Space 02:15:59.090 --> 02:16:01.789 Marine, in their opinion. They're like the tactical 02:16:01.789 --> 02:16:04.109 marine of the Emperor's children. These guys? 02:16:04.390 --> 02:16:08.600 Yeah. They think that they are the best. like 02:16:08.600 --> 02:16:10.539 epitome of the space marine of what the astartes 02:16:10.539 --> 02:16:12.779 were supposed to be so they're obsessed with 02:16:12.779 --> 02:16:15.479 like tactics and strategy and they think that 02:16:15.479 --> 02:16:18.380 they're the linchpin of every strategy so half 02:16:18.380 --> 02:16:20.180 the time they won't even listen to the guy in 02:16:20.180 --> 02:16:22.260 command and they'll make their own like special 02:16:22.260 --> 02:16:24.420 objectives up for themselves and go achieve them 02:16:24.420 --> 02:16:26.579 but they're really good at what they do so people 02:16:26.579 --> 02:16:28.859 aren't too mad they're extremely good marksmen 02:16:28.859 --> 02:16:31.659 they uh like put on crazy shows of marksmanship 02:16:31.659 --> 02:16:34.540 and try to pull off insane shots and they generally 02:16:34.540 --> 02:16:37.799 do so they uh they can back up what they talk 02:16:37.799 --> 02:16:41.899 about and then the infractors are like melee 02:16:41.899 --> 02:16:45.700 obsessed uh space marines at the end of the day 02:16:45.700 --> 02:16:47.540 every freaking variant is just somewhat obsessed 02:16:47.540 --> 02:16:49.239 with something else who could have been surprised 02:16:49.239 --> 02:16:51.600 but whatever the infractors are obsessed with 02:16:51.600 --> 02:16:53.680 melee combat and they're like they're like rabid 02:16:53.680 --> 02:16:57.020 world eater type guys almost and they go from 02:16:57.020 --> 02:17:00.649 place to place killing people the best that they 02:17:00.649 --> 02:17:03.549 can uh putting on shows of gore and blood and 02:17:03.549 --> 02:17:05.790 just like as excessive violence as they possibly 02:17:05.790 --> 02:17:09.469 can uh sometimes new people show up so they'll 02:17:09.469 --> 02:17:11.170 just leave the guys alive what they were doing 02:17:11.170 --> 02:17:12.969 and go kill the other guys sometimes because 02:17:12.969 --> 02:17:14.870 they got distracted sometimes because they want 02:17:14.870 --> 02:17:18.450 to like um feel the despair of their comrades 02:17:18.450 --> 02:17:20.809 as they slaughter everyone else and they want 02:17:20.809 --> 02:17:24.690 an audience yeah that's pretty much all the new 02:17:24.690 --> 02:17:26.969 lore in the entire new codex is summed up in 02:17:26.969 --> 02:17:30.180 freaking 10 minutes which is pressing but there's 02:17:30.180 --> 02:17:32.420 like one paragraph of new fulgrim lore the other 02:17:32.420 --> 02:17:34.979 stuff is just him fighting ultra marines yeah 02:17:34.979 --> 02:17:38.399 there he is conehead horatio horatio he's real 02:17:38.399 --> 02:17:44.600 i love you horatio marine oh man my god that's 02:17:44.600 --> 02:17:49.299 ugly that's not a face uh should we read some 02:17:49.299 --> 02:17:53.739 donations before we wrap up yes we do yeah i 02:17:53.739 --> 02:17:58.040 had a question of the week as well yes yes Colin, 02:17:58.139 --> 02:18:02.500 that's for you, I think. Allow me, then. Oh, 02:18:02.520 --> 02:18:06.120 this is just nice. Thank you. Non -dormient, 02:18:06.159 --> 02:18:08.899 thank you. Love you, Colin. I hope you enjoy 02:18:08.899 --> 02:18:13.420 the Boomer models. I do. But I also really want 02:18:13.420 --> 02:18:16.479 Cathay because they're cool and new. Oh, wow. 02:18:16.719 --> 02:18:18.920 Beyond the fell handed for two bucks. I vote 02:18:18.920 --> 02:18:24.299 Nick Fulcrum's ass next. I'd rather that happen 02:18:24.299 --> 02:18:29.479 than freaking Gilman or something. Die, bro. 02:18:29.680 --> 02:18:41.739 No. No. I assume that's Sherman or something. 02:18:41.879 --> 02:18:44.180 Thank you for the five euros. I have listened 02:18:44.180 --> 02:18:47.260 to your 100 plus episode and I still can't keep 02:18:47.260 --> 02:18:50.479 you apart besides pancreas. What? So for me, 02:18:50.479 --> 02:18:52.979 it's just speaking to the war crimes hive mind. 02:18:53.040 --> 02:18:58.149 That's crazy. Thanks. do you mean andy sound 02:18:58.149 --> 02:19:01.670 exactly the same no no what do you mean we sound 02:19:01.670 --> 02:19:09.110 exactly our names are our names oh no some people 02:19:09.110 --> 02:19:11.870 just don't know who is who uh that's fine um 02:19:11.870 --> 02:19:19.629 i bring a sort of this is our death we choose 02:19:19.629 --> 02:19:22.709 it we deny you your victory ah live to the function 02:19:22.709 --> 02:19:25.049 that the traders don't really like epic yeah 02:19:25.049 --> 02:19:32.559 cool Thank you for the $2. I have a hard take 02:19:32.559 --> 02:19:35.399 in the Discord. You'll have to tag us. Let me 02:19:35.399 --> 02:19:41.959 go take a look. I don't know where it is. Not 02:19:41.959 --> 02:19:44.940 going to lie. Join the Discord, boys. Join the 02:19:44.940 --> 02:19:48.860 Discord. While you're having a look. Finny for 02:19:48.860 --> 02:19:51.840 £2. Not going to lie, Hal's trial of Magnus on 02:19:51.840 --> 02:19:56.180 AA made me love him. Dan, that was... I was trying 02:19:56.180 --> 02:20:00.870 to cook that guy. Where is your hot take? I must 02:20:00.870 --> 02:20:04.649 ping me. Ping Colin, go on. There's too many 02:20:04.649 --> 02:20:06.670 where to ping me. I am looking at it right now. 02:20:07.350 --> 02:20:14.829 I see. Oh, sorry. Thank you again. Yeah, you 02:20:14.829 --> 02:20:19.290 know that by 40k. You know that by 40k. The emperor's 02:20:19.290 --> 02:20:25.760 children have gotten... What? Prehensile? Yeah, 02:20:26.079 --> 02:20:28.239 it's like, you know, monkeys can move their tails 02:20:28.239 --> 02:20:31.500 and shit and use it to hang off a tree. I've 02:20:31.500 --> 02:20:34.940 got some prehensile penal influence and at least 02:20:34.940 --> 02:20:38.000 one poor soul has been beaten to death by one. 02:20:38.340 --> 02:20:41.860 You know it. I think we killed someone like that 02:20:41.860 --> 02:20:47.780 in a D &D campaign I played. join rich mac thank 02:20:47.780 --> 02:20:51.159 you for the five new zealand dollars eli your 02:20:51.159 --> 02:20:55.319 title on stream is uh a lie fulgrim is clearly 02:20:55.319 --> 02:20:57.780 a top so you should be his bottom guy that's 02:20:57.780 --> 02:20:59.420 pretty you're pretty real for that wow that's 02:20:59.420 --> 02:21:03.959 a funny message thank you uh andy from anthony 02:21:03.959 --> 02:21:06.840 facken for andy serotonin syndrome can literally 02:21:06.840 --> 02:21:09.920 kill you in severe cases yeah but i'm talking 02:21:09.920 --> 02:21:12.680 about in general like it's difficult like science 02:21:12.680 --> 02:21:18.129 science Crimson Glory again. We found the take. 02:21:19.149 --> 02:21:22.649 Okay. During the heresy, Primarchs should not 02:21:22.649 --> 02:21:24.209 have been mentioned or have little mentioned. 02:21:25.430 --> 02:21:28.370 You're real for that. West Primarchs. Delete 02:21:28.370 --> 02:21:31.090 them. Crimson Glory there for five bucks. Thank 02:21:31.090 --> 02:21:33.530 you, brother. Please keep listing off dead Emperor's 02:21:33.530 --> 02:21:41.370 children. It soothes the mail. Bunnycup, thank 02:21:41.370 --> 02:21:43.409 you for the two dollars. Gilliman... Read the 02:21:43.409 --> 02:21:45.909 third edition history. Oh, Gilman read the third 02:21:45.909 --> 02:21:55.229 edition history, sadly. Yes. Vincent. There we 02:21:55.229 --> 02:21:58.329 go. $199. How much insulin does it take to kill 02:21:58.329 --> 02:22:02.290 a Primark? A lot. Yeah, probably a big number. 02:22:02.750 --> 02:22:06.569 Do we have, like, a dump truck full of it? Well, 02:22:07.430 --> 02:22:10.260 I don't... You'd have to drown them. Anyone could, 02:22:10.399 --> 02:22:12.399 in theory, overdose on insulin, but your body 02:22:12.399 --> 02:22:15.059 makes glucagon, so it's a lot harder for normal 02:22:15.059 --> 02:22:17.760 people. I could do it quite easily. It's called 02:22:17.760 --> 02:22:19.879 giving me a few units and then don't eat anything. 02:22:20.180 --> 02:22:22.340 But I feel it'd be like when you see Captain 02:22:22.340 --> 02:22:24.620 America drinking, going like, oh, my body is 02:22:24.620 --> 02:22:27.280 so superhuman, I can't get drunk. And the Primarch's 02:22:27.280 --> 02:22:33.680 like, glucagon? More like gluca -na -on? I am 02:22:33.680 --> 02:22:37.139 a Warhammer namer. if there's no more room to 02:22:37.139 --> 02:22:39.899 store it in the liver then surely it would at 02:22:39.899 --> 02:22:42.299 that point just well yeah you can if you inject 02:22:42.299 --> 02:22:45.399 insulin into yourself no the how the glucagon 02:22:45.399 --> 02:22:48.840 would stores it in liver doesn't it i don't know 02:22:48.840 --> 02:22:51.659 i don't make it glucagon is stored in the balls 02:22:51.659 --> 02:22:56.200 it's fine don't worry about it there is a safe 02:22:56.200 --> 02:22:59.000 way to do it but if you inject too much and then 02:22:59.000 --> 02:23:01.469 mess up and mess up your stuff then you can go 02:23:01.469 --> 02:23:05.389 into a coma is stored in my fat fucking nuts 02:23:05.389 --> 02:23:12.770 for um is the music band a meme or actually in 02:23:12.770 --> 02:23:15.690 the law like the noise marine music band it is 02:23:15.690 --> 02:23:18.530 kind of just a meme they're not they're not like 02:23:18.530 --> 02:23:22.069 well They play music, it's just not like... They 02:23:22.069 --> 02:23:25.670 don't have like a boy band. Yeah, they play the 02:23:25.670 --> 02:23:27.790 music of the apocalypse that makes you insane 02:23:27.790 --> 02:23:30.670 if you hear it. It's the wail of orphans in Armageddon. 02:23:31.170 --> 02:23:33.469 It would be that annoying arthouse music you 02:23:33.469 --> 02:23:37.049 see at like a university first year. What is 02:23:37.049 --> 02:23:39.309 this? Get out of here. Fulgrim's the kind of 02:23:39.309 --> 02:23:41.889 guy to show up to a party with a guitar. That's 02:23:41.889 --> 02:23:45.110 all I'm saying. Wait, some people can make it 02:23:45.110 --> 02:23:49.190 work. It's true. Deacon83, thank you for the 02:23:49.190 --> 02:23:51.610 $5. Props not going to be able to donate for 02:23:51.610 --> 02:23:53.129 a bit after this. Well, thank you for this one. 02:23:53.209 --> 02:23:55.690 Got diagnosed with type 1 on Monday. Sorry to 02:23:55.690 --> 02:23:58.190 hear that. Sorry to hear that, man. It's your 02:23:58.190 --> 02:24:02.209 time to shine, bro. Are you talking about the 02:24:02.209 --> 02:24:05.090 Emperor's Children or about your diagnosis? I 02:24:05.090 --> 02:24:07.889 assume that's less type 1 referenced more Emperor's 02:24:07.889 --> 02:24:12.870 Children. Yeah, thank you. Type 1 is not the 02:24:12.870 --> 02:24:15.120 end of it, brother, though. Very manageable. 02:24:15.219 --> 02:24:17.860 In fact, my own sibling, like Colin, has type 02:24:17.860 --> 02:24:20.819 one and they are in great shape and never, you 02:24:20.819 --> 02:24:23.540 know, great old times. It is by no means impossible 02:24:23.540 --> 02:24:27.079 to handle. As we call Hal, we call him Pancreas. 02:24:28.120 --> 02:24:33.899 Yeah, Bunny Cop for $2. Eidolon needs a dog, 02:24:33.979 --> 02:24:36.829 but what breed? Happy weekend. um shih tzu he 02:24:36.829 --> 02:24:39.909 means he's a right he needs let's hear me out 02:24:39.909 --> 02:24:43.510 it's a dwarf seeker you know the seekers of sunesh 02:24:43.510 --> 02:24:47.170 yeah oh they're all the tongues like a puppy 02:24:47.170 --> 02:24:50.569 size a puppy size no no it's a small one but 02:24:50.569 --> 02:24:53.850 also it has really stumpy legs and it like waddles 02:24:53.850 --> 02:24:58.110 like it just licks furniture or something it 02:24:58.110 --> 02:25:03.219 was so cute no no it wouldn't That would be cool. 02:25:04.319 --> 02:25:09.159 Thank you for the $10. Glory to the mortal champions 02:25:09.159 --> 02:25:14.020 of Slaanesh. Praise she who thirsts. Thank you 02:25:14.020 --> 02:25:16.459 for the support, guys. It's been amazing. Not 02:25:16.459 --> 02:25:19.059 too fond of this next one, but thank you for 02:25:19.059 --> 02:25:22.459 the $5, Imperial Loyalist. Here to say that Sanguinius 02:25:22.459 --> 02:25:28.290 is the sexier Primarch that is all. I wish when 02:25:28.290 --> 02:25:31.549 they found him on Keter, no, Ball, they caved 02:25:31.549 --> 02:25:33.750 his head in with a rock. Yeah, you're so real 02:25:33.750 --> 02:25:36.290 for that. Why? You're so real for that. Because, 02:25:36.510 --> 02:25:42.729 oh, he's so good. He's so good. Yeah, I too have 02:25:42.729 --> 02:25:46.010 seen a picture of Saint Michael. Good job. Yeah, 02:25:46.010 --> 02:25:48.229 but he's cool. I'm not going to hear this from 02:25:48.229 --> 02:25:49.809 the guy who hasn't seen the Lord of the Rings 02:25:49.809 --> 02:25:53.469 trilogy. I'm not going to hear it. And he didn't 02:25:53.469 --> 02:25:55.149 get wings through divine will. He got them because 02:25:55.149 --> 02:25:58.030 he's a mutant. Oh, yeah, yeah. Radiation. That 02:25:58.030 --> 02:26:00.389 thing that commonly gives people angel wings. 02:26:00.430 --> 02:26:04.709 Yeah, exactly. You understand. Let's go to Chernobyl. 02:26:05.389 --> 02:26:07.909 Where's the guy who just hates Colin for his 02:26:07.909 --> 02:26:10.469 takes? Where are you? I think that's half the 02:26:10.469 --> 02:26:13.950 chat, bro. Do you mean the lore crimes audience? 02:26:14.010 --> 02:26:16.389 Yeah, someone said remove colon immediately, 02:26:16.909 --> 02:26:21.069 thank you. Finishing up though, because we're 02:26:21.069 --> 02:26:22.590 only against like two and a half - Yeah, I am 02:26:22.590 --> 02:26:26.590 Catholic, I don't like Cyngwinius. We have a 02:26:26.590 --> 02:26:29.510 question of the week. Andy, there was a previous 02:26:29.510 --> 02:26:31.629 question of the week on the Qyfe the Cain episode. 02:26:31.950 --> 02:26:35.860 Yeah. So the hashtag was hashtag Cain. The first 02:26:35.860 --> 02:26:40.860 one is from Mothman66. Cain, it's the 16th Black 02:26:40.860 --> 02:26:43.360 Crusade. Abaddon has cut his way through the 02:26:43.360 --> 02:26:45.620 galaxy to Terra and stands before the Golden 02:26:45.620 --> 02:26:47.559 Throne to strike down the Emperor once and for 02:26:47.559 --> 02:26:52.059 all. The only thing in his way, the Imperium's 02:26:52.059 --> 02:26:54.319 favorite commissar, who is trying not to piss 02:26:54.319 --> 02:26:57.610 himself in brackets. Jergen is behind Abby. about 02:26:57.610 --> 02:26:59.190 to shove his melter where the eight -pointed 02:26:59.190 --> 02:27:03.010 star don't shine. What a way to end his legacy, 02:27:03.090 --> 02:27:05.829 that would be. Crazy if Abaddon gets it by Jürgen. 02:27:07.030 --> 02:27:12.010 I'm Jürgen -ing it. Literally parroting Horace's 02:27:12.010 --> 02:27:17.209 words. I never wanted this. Up and bump. Second 02:27:17.209 --> 02:27:24.010 one from Mark. Resident meme lord DJ Beast. Hashtag 02:27:24.010 --> 02:27:26.729 Cain. I would throw Cain into Skaven blight. 02:27:27.149 --> 02:27:30.389 He falls through the warp and ends up in the 02:27:30.389 --> 02:27:33.190 Skaven capital. Fanquil is also there. The failing 02:27:33.190 --> 02:27:36.049 upwards will be crazy. That would be quite funny. 02:27:37.530 --> 02:27:39.690 Fear and Loathing in Skavenblight would be quite 02:27:39.690 --> 02:27:44.170 funny. And the last one from nerdyvids1. Hashtag 02:27:44.170 --> 02:27:46.229 Cain. Put Cain directly in front of the Golden 02:27:46.229 --> 02:27:50.129 Throne so the custodians all find him and freak 02:27:50.129 --> 02:27:52.030 out. And he has to think of a way to play it 02:27:52.030 --> 02:27:55.469 off so he doesn't get skewered. that'd be oh 02:27:55.469 --> 02:27:58.190 that'd be good fun it's not gonna make it uh 02:27:58.190 --> 02:28:02.030 oh he's game he'd be fine he'd figure it out 02:28:02.030 --> 02:28:06.649 uh thank you guys though that was a yeah a helpful 02:28:06.649 --> 02:28:11.090 serving of um uh yeah we're gonna talk about 02:28:11.090 --> 02:28:13.110 making any talk about the war bands but i think 02:28:13.110 --> 02:28:15.409 we'll save that for a new another one i suppose 02:28:15.409 --> 02:28:18.430 also before we cap off we have to think of the 02:28:18.430 --> 02:28:21.430 next question of the week don't we we did what 02:28:21.430 --> 02:28:24.860 we said earlier We had one for this special episode, 02:28:25.200 --> 02:28:27.659 which we're hoping for some diabolical comments 02:28:27.659 --> 02:28:30.819 on this. What would it take for you to turn to 02:28:30.819 --> 02:28:35.440 Slaanesh? Hashtag Slaanesh Ussi or Slaanussi 02:28:35.440 --> 02:28:39.340 if you wish. Slaanussi, yeah. What would it take 02:28:39.340 --> 02:28:41.760 me to take Colin to turn to Slaanesh would be 02:28:41.760 --> 02:28:44.079 an interesting one because I'm pretty sure it 02:28:44.079 --> 02:28:47.040 would just be like we can, you know, the pancreas 02:28:47.040 --> 02:28:50.739 is super loaded at this point. What I'm going 02:28:50.739 --> 02:28:54.120 to say is One phrase, it would just be like Slaanesh 02:28:54.120 --> 02:28:57.879 gives Colin an envelope with a letter and it's 02:28:57.879 --> 02:29:00.299 just, you're invited to a Marathi bubble bath. 02:29:05.000 --> 02:29:08.420 I'm eating! Where's the bath water? Where's the 02:29:08.420 --> 02:29:11.979 bath water? You would see me like a fucking juggernaut 02:29:11.979 --> 02:29:15.299 tearing through walls. You'd be like the roadrunner. 02:29:16.379 --> 02:29:28.489 I'm the pancreas, know what? Thank you for the 02:29:28.489 --> 02:29:32.469 two. Glory to she who thrusts. Oh no, I missed 02:29:32.469 --> 02:29:37.049 that. She who thirsts. Your mind going the way 02:29:37.049 --> 02:29:40.030 there. Your mind added extra letters. I mean, 02:29:40.030 --> 02:29:44.290 what it takes for me to turn to some ash. Depends. 02:29:44.290 --> 02:29:51.969 My problem would be greed. if the bro was like 02:29:51.969 --> 02:29:58.250 20 bucks 20 bucks right what about this now what 02:29:58.250 --> 02:30:01.129 what is playing slanesh was like i'll give you 02:30:01.129 --> 02:30:06.829 once a year a good iron hands book sheesh that's 02:30:06.829 --> 02:30:13.989 a lot no i don't know i need i need i need i 02:30:13.989 --> 02:30:20.459 need magnus to die like i want that red bastard 02:30:20.459 --> 02:30:24.920 dead like if they did she went and then and then 02:30:24.920 --> 02:30:29.219 ahriman killed magnus permanently and then res 02:30:29.219 --> 02:30:31.360 and then the rubric marines were saved i'd be 02:30:31.360 --> 02:30:37.399 like my lord above i'm on my knees oh my gosh 02:30:37.399 --> 02:30:40.340 how is classes confirmed wow we got another one 02:30:40.340 --> 02:30:43.659 i've got i've got a i've got a really important 02:30:43.659 --> 02:30:46.040 question i just came up with though colin You 02:30:46.040 --> 02:30:49.659 have to pick the previous invitation to the bubble 02:30:49.659 --> 02:30:53.239 bath or a life supply of shamrock shakes. Which 02:30:53.239 --> 02:30:59.799 is it? Ooh, man. On demand. See, the thing about 02:30:59.799 --> 02:31:01.799 the shamrock shake, though, it's special. It's 02:31:01.799 --> 02:31:04.739 once a year. I get it with my dad. It's nice. 02:31:06.920 --> 02:31:11.079 Marathi's not real. So if she was, you know. 02:31:14.760 --> 02:31:17.620 We got something from Crimson Glory, he's been 02:31:17.620 --> 02:31:20.540 a member for 11 months. Thank you. Thank you, 02:31:20.540 --> 02:31:22.940 man. Almost a year and Colin is still down bad. 02:31:23.100 --> 02:31:25.079 Bro, you're gonna come back in 50 years, you'll 02:31:25.079 --> 02:31:27.739 see the same thing. Dude, the YouTube channel 02:31:27.739 --> 02:31:30.959 will be dead and gone. We'll all be dead and 02:31:30.959 --> 02:31:35.940 gone. Still down bad. The grandkids will watch 02:31:35.940 --> 02:31:38.600 this and they'll be like, Granddad, who's Amorethi? 02:31:38.680 --> 02:31:41.889 And then they immediately - like listen listen 02:31:41.889 --> 02:31:43.649 shut your mouth and then they're on your phone 02:31:43.649 --> 02:31:48.049 and you're like no don't google image search 02:31:48.049 --> 02:31:51.989 don't go to the discord the images have been 02:31:51.989 --> 02:31:54.899 crafted for the beautiful Members of Lord Cripes 02:31:54.899 --> 02:31:57.219 here. Thank you for the art of pregnant Colin. 02:31:57.440 --> 02:32:00.780 Thank you. I want more. I want more pregnant. 02:32:01.319 --> 02:32:04.719 Do not tell the person who did that to make more 02:32:04.719 --> 02:32:06.940 because she will. I want more fan art. I love 02:32:06.940 --> 02:32:09.780 the fan art. Fan art is good. I don't need to 02:32:09.780 --> 02:32:12.360 see me pregnant. Pregnant Colin fan art especially. 02:32:12.780 --> 02:32:14.600 No, it wasn't you. It was Teclis that was pregnant. 02:32:14.700 --> 02:32:18.620 You were just there. All right. I love the gremlin 02:32:18.620 --> 02:32:21.340 face on Colin behind me too. It's so fucking 02:32:21.340 --> 02:32:27.500 funny. someone did a comment though so someone 02:32:27.500 --> 02:32:29.340 did the comment of like colin looks like the 02:32:29.340 --> 02:32:31.920 kind of guy to whisper in someone's ear you've 02:32:31.920 --> 02:32:39.129 got a girlfriend champ Oh, my God. We will probably 02:32:39.129 --> 02:32:40.610 do a fan art section at the end of the video. 02:32:40.629 --> 02:32:44.190 That'll be amazing. We've got to wrap up because 02:32:44.190 --> 02:32:47.850 it's a long episode. Thank you guys for watching, 02:32:47.930 --> 02:32:50.170 listening, all that good stuff. Get your bingo 02:32:50.170 --> 02:32:52.870 card out, like and subscribe. Appreciate you 02:32:52.870 --> 02:32:54.110 all. Hope you guys enjoyed the Emperor's Children 02:32:54.110 --> 02:32:57.569 lore. Got all that good stuff coming up next 02:32:57.569 --> 02:33:01.530 week. And if you want us to cover anything specifically, 02:33:01.889 --> 02:33:03.969 let us know. Again, obviously question of the 02:33:03.969 --> 02:33:07.020 week. give that a little hashtag slanushi or 02:33:07.020 --> 02:33:09.520 slanushi slanushi whichever one we'll we'll catch 02:33:09.520 --> 02:33:13.059 it uh probably a dose two stream soon as well 02:33:13.059 --> 02:33:21.340 but was andy the same night we played eli i hadn't 02:33:21.340 --> 02:33:27.219 saw the game you'll come crawling back no i won't 02:33:28.600 --> 02:33:31.219 i think it's me and colin we got we got one more 02:33:31.219 --> 02:33:35.120 donut before we wrap up oh yes from medicare 02:33:35.120 --> 02:33:40.420 insulin crazy thank you for the two dollars it 02:33:40.420 --> 02:33:43.559 says thank you thank you thank you screaming 02:33:43.559 --> 02:33:46.860 feet okay okay good night guys thank you my man 02:33:46.860 --> 02:33:49.479 my man andy was a poor nice dream andy was a 02:33:49.479 --> 02:33:51.879 porn stream okay bye -bye everyone guys we'll 02:33:51.879 --> 02:33:53.579 see you soon i love you bye