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Hello ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, it's us, Lorecrimes!

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Hello!

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And look how dashing Hal looks with his shaving and cut hair.

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Oh yeah, I say yeah, like nice little bits.

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There we go, yeah, nice little short hair cut.

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There we are.

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Look at that.

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Dashing boy.

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Thank you.

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Extreme grit.

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I look less like a homeless person.

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You know, just in case I ever need the emergency, you know, like quick tie off my hair and,

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you know, like a, you know, go back to 2010 man bun era.

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But we don't need to do that anymore.

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I'm only homeless strip.

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Homeless strip's homeless strip.

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My wife tells me I dress like Adam Sandler.

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Oh no, I've already seen this first.

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I'm never living that down.

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Welcome everybody to another episode of our tier list.

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Welcome to Lorecrimes as always.

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I'm not wearing it, but we do have merchandise as well, so everyone wants to get it.

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Cool Lorecrimes hoodies.

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We have some available.

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Today, you know, amongst all the beautiful boys here though, you know, there's so many

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green flags, but we're here to talk about, we have issues.

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And some of us need to reconcile with some of the massive issues we have with certain

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characters.

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Some of us don't see it.

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I've just.

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Colin, especially.

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I realized, is that, I don't know if that's Lehman Russ or someone else.

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I'm just noticing for the art, the video creator wanted.

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Yeah.

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Next, what's his name?

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Nyal Stormcaller.

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That's fine.

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Well, welcome everyone.

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Today is red flags.

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You know, it's, there could be, who's missing some points, you know, someone's got some

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valid issues.

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We're rating this literally off of who.

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I love you.

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Yes.

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I literally cannot let this comment down for all the audit listeners.

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I unfortunately, I opened a gaming stream with Colin.

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I literally said, welcome to Lore Creams.

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And I cannot get past this.

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Nope.

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Yeah.

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Never letting it down.

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So I should mention that with this particular tier list, we should mention S is bad.

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F is good.

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Kind of like golf.

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Like, the key word, the red flags, the lower you are in the tier list, which is a good

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thing.

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The higher that you are is the more red flags.

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So we should just put that out there.

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And what a rogue's gallery we have right here.

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But I guess without further ado, let's start with the obvious one.

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Emperor of mankind.

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Should we put him in like C?

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Surely he's S. That guy's a selfish lover right there.

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All right, you like, can you explain why?

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He will do nothing but use you for as many benefits as he can gain.

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He'll never love you.

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He's going to hate you.

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But it's not selfish, though.

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It's for mankind.

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Oh yeah, okay.

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Poor pals.

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Like, is it still not mistreatment?

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It depends if that's what they signed up for.

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The space dream ones, it's like, I don't see it as like, as he's got some, his red flags,

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first of all, is liar.

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Liar man.

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His only female companion left him and sent his babies to hell because of how bad he was.

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But they're going to start the reddest plague ever.

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That's just more like she's got.

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Erda would be right up there with him.

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Also not great, but.

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Okay, hit me out.

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Hit me out.

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Hit me out.

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Hit me out.

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Hit me out.

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Hit me out.

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Is the bigger red flag I want to conquer the galaxy, unite mankind, bring them into the

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warp, the web way to save them, or I'm going to eat our children into the which that's

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the bigger red flag person.

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Trying to save her kids, bro.

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I don't know.

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You talk well.

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Would you throw your firstborn into an unknown pit of hell?

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Because you're like, I don't know.

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21 firstborns.

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How's doing a phenomenal job of dancing around the fact that she felt it necessary to throw

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them into hell to get them away from him.

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I can't be with fighting with her.

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This is complete, you know, perpetual lovers over there.

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Jesus.

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God, they really do.

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Where is he?

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He's going to use your kids as tools of war and he's not going to tell them anything.

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Someone put in the chat that is a bad communicator.

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He's going to go off to his basement and lock the door behind him and never tell you what

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he's doing down there.

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You could be married to him for 500 years and you're never going to get dull.

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I think B tier is not.

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What if, like, look, what if, you know, I'm, let's say I've had a family, right?

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Well, you know, stuff happens and I remarry and I marry Big E. My kid opens the door to

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his basement.

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He gets shot on the spot because no one's allowed to speak in man cave.

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I mean, was that me?

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I don't know what scenario that is.

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I think B tier though, surely, A or S must be, like, horrific.

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He gives more attention and love to his friend, his best buddy, than he does you.

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It's pretty sus, bro.

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He's going to have an affair with frickin' Malkador while you're sitting there being

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his wife.

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I have one caveat to that argument, right?

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Bear in mind, Nagash is on this tier list.

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Yes.

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He's doing everything out of self-interest.

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Yeah, he goes in F tier.

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He goes in F tier for plenty of bread and butter.

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You'll never know that he's bad.

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The only reason I think maybe we take him down to A is because at least he's doing all

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the worst things for the best reasons, like good intentions, whereas Nagash is just like,

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I want you all to die because I'm a dick.

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All right.

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I can accept that.

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That's fair.

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As long as it's not S, that's ridiculous, man.

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A is fine.

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He's not a good person.

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This has never been shied away from.

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He's not a good person.

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He's got some red flags, 100%.

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But I'm very aware of, like, we're about to deal with the most diabolical beings in existence.

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So I'm like, he'll be next to some people, you're like, he's the odd one out.

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So yeah, okay.

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I think A is suitable.

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Constantine Valdo, his closest thing to his son.

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He lies asleep.

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Good Lord.

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I would, so this is just off the top of my head.

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I don't think there's many red flags, but I think the one he has is really big.

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And it's the fact that you are never going to be the first person in his life.

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It is always going to be the emperor above you.

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No matter who you are, you're not number one.

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Loyalty.

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Which, you know, not a lot of, yeah, but it's loyalty to not you.

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Are we dating these people?

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Just clarify.

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Wait, is that what the whole team is?

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I think I might have got a little bit confused when we were talking about the assumption

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going forward.

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What is a red flag if not for, like, you know, that?

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I wonder, like, the emperor will lie to you.

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Yeah, I was like, but it wasn't.

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I mean, me and Eli were on the same page, so I'm not totally insane.

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You know what?

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Let's do it then.

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Let's do it for relationships.

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That makes a hell of a lot more sense.

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I'd say it's, yeah, C tier for Constantine, just because it's like, he's not, he doesn't

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he'll he doesn't want to do anything bad to you.

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But if he was required to, he would just straight up like, like, yeah, I will immediately smite

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him.

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Like, there's, there's even stuff in I think it's a master of mankind, which like, I don't

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really like have any desires.

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I don't really enjoy anything.

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I just kind of do what I'm told, because that's all I know.

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Because he's a custodian, they're all like, hardwired to like Biggie.

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So it's like, I don't I don't think it'd be I don't think walking through the park or

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going out for some beers with them would be a very enjoyable experience.

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I think you just kind of sit there.

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He's a bit of a boring fop.

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You know what happened?

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You go, Oh, what do you want to do?

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And he'd say, I don't know, what do you want to do?

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Yeah, see, no, what do you want to do?

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It'd be appalling.

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It's like, look, I get I get, you know, first time conversations can be rough.

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You don't know the person you got, you know, sometimes you just you don't click right away.

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It's never clicking.

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There is no click.

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You're trying to fit the square into the circle hole.

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He is a square.

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I agree.

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All right, the next one, speaking of lying, lying.

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Yeah, I see tears will he'll try his best to love you, but he might spurg out and tell

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you to take your head off on accident.

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Backhand your that was nothing.

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He's not going to pick up your social cues.

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He's not going to know the relationship cues that you're you put down.

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You have to spill everything out for him in black and white.

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I mean, he kind of like me.

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He just like a big red flag.

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He's willing to use like to torture engine kind of chaos adjacent tools slightly.

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So it's even he's more like, yeah, I'm willing to kind of chaos it slightly up.

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And then he he hid the fact that he had that from his brothers.

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So he cannot trust anybody.

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So so question, you're on a date with the lion and something mild interrupts it.

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It's not a big deal.

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It's like, you know, you get maybe it's like, you know, someone spills a drink or maybe

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like, you know, if you ever go to like a mall or something and one of those people that

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just whose poor job is to stand there and try and get you to listen to them all day.

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Maybe one of them comes up to you.

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He's the lion.

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So he then kills them on the spot because he doesn't really know how to handle things.

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He's going to challenge his brother to a duel to the death.

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Is this a red flag?

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Maybe it kind of reminds you.

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I've been doing some research for Lucretius Corvo, who was like the first chapter master

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of the Novo Marines.

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He's part of the Ultraman's Legion.

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And there's a bit in he has a short story called the Lorela Defiance.

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And it's all like, ah, it's Imperium Secundus.

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And he's being honored.

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He's being given east.

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What could this be?

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He's being given a laurel of victory.

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And the lion's like, you have resworn your oaths of fealty to see Imperium Secundus.

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He's like, I don't need to.

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I'm an Ultramarine.

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And I was like, good, man.

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Yes, you're good.

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And I was like, no, no, you have to reswear your oaths of fealty.

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He's like, shut up, nerd.

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My dad says I don't have to.

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And it's like bickering about little things that don't matter and doing things by the

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book and he's he's in all fairness, I think it goes down to I would say it goes down to

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a C tier because modern lion dude acknowledges his mistakes.

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Dude is 100 percent.

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He's like, I was a terrible dad, but I'm not going to be in fact, I won't even rule the

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Imperium part.

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I'm just going to help.

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So he's kind of he's a few more green flags of Pogta.

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I would say it's a put him below Val Dor.

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He's I think Val Dor would be worse.

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I think he's worse.

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I agree.

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I'm happy with that.

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But lions also like not great.

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That's not ideal.

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As I have not read an Asriel book, sadly.

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This guy's a beta because he straight up like the lion appears, the Primark appears and

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he's surrounded by redeemed fallen angels and he's still like, don't touch me, bro.

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He literally says, all right.

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Now, he's pretty cool for that.

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This might not be popular, but it reminds me of other arguments.

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Like it's I promise it's related.

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I remember when Attack on Titan was airing and spoilers for that, but it's been over

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season four.

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Season four.

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Are you here?

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You can tell.

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I'll take it off.

266
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No.

267
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All right.

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I was sad when she watches this.

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Spoiler free spoiler.

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Everyone did something to someone else and everyone was like, oh, I can't you mean,

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you mean, like she was fucking indoctrinated since she was a kid.

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You can't blame her for that.

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And then people go, no, just get over it.

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You indoctrinated.

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You get over it.

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That's what I go for Asriel.

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I don't think that's a I don't think he deserves B tier for 10,000 years of his chapters indoctrination

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sitting on him.

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I think bring him down to C tier.

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Going back to the it is a red flag, but I don't think it's too bad.

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You're like, Eli is fine.

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You can come on that.

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Going back to the the date analogy.

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You're on a date.

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Asriel turns up.

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He's bought some fake flowers because there's no real flowers anymore on Caliban rock.

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But he's trying.

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He's trying.

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He's trying.

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And then you're like, you're having a great time.

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He's like offered to pay for the meal or whatever.

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And then he suddenly goes looks at his phone.

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He's like, I have to go.

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And then you're chasing someone.

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As someone who's like read a lot of Asriel stuff, there's the bit in Lazarus's book where

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he basically has a hissy fit, because Lazarus is all like, hey, I'm just a captain.

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But like, maybe we should like put the fallen behind.

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And this is before the lion returns barely.

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He's like, maybe we should just like stop dicking around with the fall and actually

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help the Imperium.

301
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And he's like, shut the fuck up.

302
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And that's like his response.

303
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And then also in the Wolf Sons of Fenris book with Ragnar I just went through, he sanctioned

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a mission where they basically just like, we're looking for a fall on this planet called

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his Karis.

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And they they opened fire on the space wall.

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Classic.

308
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Nah, nah, we're not gonna ask questions.

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Morally good act.

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Morally good act.

311
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I guess I have one.

312
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I read Pandorax.

313
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That's an Asriel book.

314
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He's in Pandorax, isn't he?

315
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And he argues with the great knights for the entire thing.

316
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I have two things, one for Andy and Hal.

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I will say Andy, when when Gilman first showed up with the primaris reinforcements, Asriel

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didn't know that was what it was.

319
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He thought, well, guess it's time.

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And he had the option to open fire.

321
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He was shitting himself.

322
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He was, but he didn't, you know, do the typical Dark Angel thing and open fire on his.

323
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He was like, well, if this is judgment, then so be it.

324
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Then he got a whole bunch of, you know, upgraded Marines.

325
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So you know, which they then mind wiped every time.

326
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Yeah.

327
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That's definitely a red flag.

328
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They're based for that.

329
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Also, Hal, I'm not saying that, you know, your situation isn't a red flag, but I would

330
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say would be like, you know, Superman then or any superhero ever.

331
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There's tons of stuff.

332
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They're suddenly on like a date or outing with friends.

333
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I got to go.

334
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I go save the world.

335
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Is that still a red flag?

336
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I just remember another thing.

337
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Asriel sanctioned an exterminate artist of the planet of Midgardia during the siege of

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Fenris while Logan Grimnir was still on it.

339
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So there is that too.

340
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He apologized afterwards.

341
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We say it's a bit late.

342
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So yeah, like you're doing a very bad job.

343
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That was even a fallen incident.

344
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That was just like, that was like, that wasn't even a fallen thing.

345
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He was just like, oh, there's a lot of chaos going on.

346
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Nuke the planet.

347
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The high king's underground.

348
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Get rid of chaos.

349
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He doesn't break it.

350
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Get rid of chaos and murder the space wolves chapter master.

351
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Hey, shit, two for one.

352
00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:45,040
Yeah.

353
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So he's like, you can tip and dive there to go be a superhero, it goes to like erase some

354
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secret shame.

355
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Like he's like trying to go back and like wipe my internet history.

356
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Like that's the equivalent.

357
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You know, he gets on a date, runs on all fours and go wipe off his internet history.

358
00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,280
Now I'm pictured running off like General Grievous.

359
00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:12,800
Yeah, but the, but the, but the quick one about how it's like, imagine, imagine trying

360
00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:17,280
to like wipe your internet history by like attaching a pipe bomb to like the computer.

361
00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,080
That's overkill and that's not going to solve the problem anyway.

362
00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,080
Like, what are you doing?

363
00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,840
And a few civilians who needed your help, you know, you immediately went past and you'd

364
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even make eye contact.

365
00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:30,720
So low B, we'll have a low B. I'm sure there's higher B.

366
00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:31,720
All right, fine.

367
00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:32,720
This has got to be our first S tier.

368
00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:33,720
Who is this?

369
00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,720
Oh, I had a feeling, but.

370
00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,520
This has got to be our first S tier, bro.

371
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Imagine his job is, is like chief torture man.

372
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That's the embodiment of trust problems.

373
00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:46,600
Yeah.

374
00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:47,600
There's that.

375
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First of all, there's, you tell him, Hey, where are you going?

376
00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:51,640
I'm just going to France.

377
00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:52,640
No, you're not.

378
00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:53,640
Where are you really going?

379
00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:54,640
Where are you going?

380
00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:55,640
Yeah.

381
00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:56,640
There's no torture.

382
00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:57,640
You probably, yeah.

383
00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,000
And then step two, his job is torture, but he's not only his job torture, he's bad at

384
00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:02,000
it.

385
00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:06,680
Well, the thing is I love the whole thing of like, I did a video on him recently.

386
00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:12,160
Like they can't like punish him too much because he's actually really useful.

387
00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:16,400
But one of my favorite bits of law with Asmodei is like, at one point, one of the companies

388
00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:20,360
of the dark angels was like telling jokes in one of the chambers of the rock and having

389
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a good time and laughing.

390
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And Asmodei was so annoyed.

391
00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,720
He gave them all like a penance of silence for like a year.

392
00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,320
He's like, you will not say a single word because you were laughing too loud.

393
00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,520
Like that's the kind of guy Asmodei is.

394
00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,200
And they were bricking it so much.

395
00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:37,000
They did as he said, like red flags galore.

396
00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,000
Imagine.

397
00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,000
Yeah.

398
00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:40,000
Imagine being a torturer.

399
00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,000
You're laughing too loud.

400
00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,440
Imagine being a torturer and like this famous torturer.

401
00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,720
He's only done it like six times.

402
00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,120
I thought he's done it a ton.

403
00:17:49,120 --> 00:17:51,160
It's just he's only succeeded like twice.

404
00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,280
Like he's only got like two beads or something, doesn't he?

405
00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:58,280
Oh, there's no, there's, there's like a, there's one of his stories when he's becoming an interrogated

406
00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:02,680
chaplain for a couple of hunts, he fails and he's like, I don't know if I'm cracked up

407
00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:03,680
for this.

408
00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,120
Then they lock him in a room with a fallen that hasn't broken in like 30 years in the

409
00:18:07,120 --> 00:18:10,960
basement and he breaks him in like a week.

410
00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,040
And then they're all like, ah, we found your calling.

411
00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,080
He's got talent for this.

412
00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,080
Yeah.

413
00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:21,600
But as in like from that point on, like there's another guy who's just like fallen after fallen

414
00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,400
after fallen, just redeemed.

415
00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,680
I swear I was reading this somewhere.

416
00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,480
There's some other like interrogator chaplain that's a lot better.

417
00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:35,600
And then as Bada'a is, well, they usually die.

418
00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,480
To go back to that sons of Fenris book, the whole thing is there's an interrogator chaplain

419
00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:44,560
in charge of the mission and the space wolves literally sniff out the dark angels go, is

420
00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:45,860
that an Astartes?

421
00:18:45,860 --> 00:18:47,000
And Ragnar finds them.

422
00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:51,680
And then because they get this, he's like, just send the whole third company.

423
00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:56,080
Like let's just, let's just attack the planet, drop pods, go in and say, oh, why are you

424
00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:57,080
being so harsh?

425
00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,440
I've never not found a fallen and caught him.

426
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I'm not going to let this be the first time.

427
00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:02,320
Oh, okay.

428
00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:03,320
Fair enough.

429
00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:04,960
And he was just like some interrogated chaplain.

430
00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:09,280
So like this guy, he's like, he's hundreds of years old.

431
00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:13,800
He's the, he should technically be the high interrogated chaplain, but then the commander

432
00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,680
like, no, actually his talents are so good.

433
00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,840
We're not going to give him that because we need someone a bit calmer and a bit more measured

434
00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:20,840
to command them.

435
00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,880
Like, okay, give it to Safon then.

436
00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:23,880
Yeah.

437
00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:24,880
Why not?

438
00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:25,880
Maybe maybe he is his junior.

439
00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,760
Maybe that's what I was misremembering that Safon was there for that.

440
00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,720
I, I'm probably just remembering.

441
00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,000
Safon is like, he's a nicer guy.

442
00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,480
And so they're like, he can be in charge when we know where the real stuff is.

443
00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:37,480
The nice talker.

444
00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:42,720
Look, it's, you know, he straps you down.

445
00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:43,960
He's like, look, man, I'm sorry.

446
00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,720
It's just nothing personal to my job.

447
00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,360
And then he breaks out the, the prostate penetrator.

448
00:19:49,360 --> 00:19:50,360
Okay.

449
00:19:50,360 --> 00:19:54,320
And he calls it the cobo.

450
00:19:54,320 --> 00:20:01,480
He goes, yeah, this hammer is called Sanders as well.

451
00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:02,480
All right.

452
00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:03,480
We, we better get moving.

453
00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:04,480
Yeah.

454
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:05,480
Yeah.

455
00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,040
Just, just cause it's called K.

456
00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,040
Okay.

457
00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:13,360
Wait, is it, is it pre-harassee fulgrum or overall fulgrum fulgrum overall fulgrum?

458
00:20:13,360 --> 00:20:14,360
Okay.

459
00:20:14,360 --> 00:20:16,600
Well then it's got to be, it's the same thing as last time.

460
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:21,520
He's got to be in the middle because he goes from F to S over the span of his entire life.

461
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:22,800
So surely we just got women.

462
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:27,640
It even says like when he's a really like he's new to being a Primark, even then like the

463
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,760
seeds of his arrogance was there.

464
00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:36,420
Even as Primark novel, it was like he had a, he had a, he had a showing off thing.

465
00:20:36,420 --> 00:20:41,280
And like he said it came from a good place, but it even stated the only Primark who actually

466
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,000
knows how to love people.

467
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,960
He broke head, broke head.

468
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:45,960
What?

469
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:46,960
I am real.

470
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,960
It is also said he stopped loving them because he was losing connections with mortals.

471
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,240
Like, you know, Eli, I'm not shaming him for this.

472
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:58,840
I'm saying after like a thousand years of marrying people and they die off in a meet

473
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almost immediately from your eyes.

474
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,000
It's like, well, it's going to be hard to connect.

475
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,000
I'll accept.

476
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,000
I'll accept.

477
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,640
It was also political marriage as well as states.

478
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:12,160
Like he didn't lay down pipe or anything like some, he did like him.

479
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:13,160
He did.

480
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:14,160
He was a very nice guy.

481
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,480
He was like, Fulgrum didn't lay down pipe so much as he laid down the entire aqueduct.

482
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:23,040
That's Fulgrum right there.

483
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,000
As he is now as well, Fulgrum.

484
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,000
Fabius.

485
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,000
Yeah.

486
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,960
We just put Fabius also in the S tier.

487
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:30,960
You know what?

488
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:31,960
No, no, no, no.

489
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:32,960
Hear me out.

490
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:33,960
Hear me out.

491
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:34,960
He's a good dad.

492
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:35,960
He's a good dad.

493
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:40,080
Fabius is not a red flag because you know exactly what you're getting into.

494
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:41,920
Is that not what a red flag is?

495
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,800
It's like a damn, this is.

496
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:48,240
You know, if the Emperor is A tier, I think Fabius Bael should also be A tier.

497
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,520
If the, if the red flag is like, the ones that are bad, like the hidden ones, like you

498
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:56,000
don't even like, if when you're with them, you don't know how bad it's going to get.

499
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,880
With Fabius Bael, you're like, I know exactly what I'm getting.

500
00:21:58,880 --> 00:21:59,880
He's honest.

501
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:00,880
He's honest.

502
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:01,880
He sticks to his word.

503
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,280
He, he knows, he knows his worth.

504
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:04,280
He does.

505
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:05,680
He's just trying to do his best.

506
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:06,680
He's a good dad.

507
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:07,680
Fair enough.

508
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:08,680
All right.

509
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,560
With that in mind though, is Eli and Halley seem to be on the same page as this.

510
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,360
Andy, do you agree with what he's saying?

511
00:22:14,360 --> 00:22:15,360
Because.

512
00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:22,880
All I wanted to mention, he literally, his signature weapon is the rod of torment.

513
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,360
He wears people's skin.

514
00:22:26,360 --> 00:22:32,360
And I'm just saying that there's a bit in one of his books where a greater demon has

515
00:22:32,360 --> 00:22:33,880
a grudge against him.

516
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,320
And then one of his companions like, why does that guy hate you so much?

517
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,840
He's like, oh, I like as an experiment, use one of my needles to like melt his flesh for

518
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:45,280
like several years in his, like I shot him with this needle and he like melted.

519
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,040
And he hasn't forgiven me.

520
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:48,920
It's like, I'm not surprised.

521
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:53,920
You know, I think Fabius has more human moments than the emperor does.

522
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:54,920
Yeah.

523
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,720
That's a real, that's real spiel right there.

524
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,560
But the thing is Fabius has malevolence.

525
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,520
Whereas the emperor does like, I have to do what I have to do.

526
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,640
Whereas Fabius delights in suffering.

527
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:06,960
It's not delights in suffering.

528
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,960
He wants to know.

529
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,520
His weapon is the rod of torment.

530
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:18,480
Because he'll do it one, and then he knows he won't do it again.

531
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:19,480
His Xyclos needler.

532
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,480
He'll do it once because you're gonna die!

533
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:26,920
He fires rounds of his Xyclos needler, not to kill people, but because he likes to put

534
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,560
different concoctions in it, to experiment on people while he's fighting.

535
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:31,560
He's an experimenter, right?

536
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:32,560
He's an experimenter, right?

537
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,560
He hasn't, hear me out, hear me out.

538
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:40,360
He has flayed a family once, and he's never gonna do it again.

539
00:23:40,360 --> 00:23:43,560
Because he doesn't need to know once he's done it.

540
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:44,560
It's not malevolence.

541
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:49,080
I want you to say that sentence again out loud, and just think about the words leaving your

542
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,080
mouth.

543
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,480
I think I just remembered something really pivotal.

544
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:54,480
Really important.

545
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,560
Eli, what's the like, tyranid brain thing called?

546
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:58,560
Is it the Zowanthrope?

547
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,480
The floating one, or the big one?

548
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,000
The like, the one that controls the floating one.

549
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,000
Zowanthrope?

550
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,000
How about athropes?

551
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,040
It's the tyranid that has a big brain.

552
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,040
It's probably a Zowanthrope.

553
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,840
Is it skinny and flies?

554
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,200
Is it a boss in Space Marine 2?

555
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:22,160
In the Blood Angels omnibus, Raph and the Reddy fights a clone of Fabius, and they find

556
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,640
a chained up tyranid that's in charge of the Hive.

557
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:32,880
And the tyranid basically asks the Blood Angels to kill it because it's in so much pain under

558
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,240
the torture of Fabius.

559
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:40,040
A tyranid tries to negotiate, tries to bargain with the Blood Angels to be like, please end

560
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,360
my suffering.

561
00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:44,000
That's how bad Fabius's bile is.

562
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:48,000
Yeah, okay, but this doesn't make him that much worse than the Emperor.

563
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,920
The Emperor has caused way more pain and suffering than Fabius.

564
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,760
You know you're dating a psychotic.

565
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,200
Alright, look, Hal, you know what?

566
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,880
I'm willing to acquiesce on this, fine, but you better believe when fantasy rolls around

567
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:08,520
I'm gonna have some strong arguments for some characters if this is how we're doing it.

568
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:13,440
Just finishing up with Fulgrim, like I'm at his whim in terms of like, I don't know if

569
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:18,360
Fulgrim will one day love me or turn me into furniture.

570
00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:21,360
With Fabius, he'll be like, I don't need to do that.

571
00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:23,000
I've already done everything.

572
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,960
At most I will make you a super being.

573
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,760
And again, if I need to, you'll become drugs.

574
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:37,040
The red flag there, it means he's gonna turn you into something else he hasn't done yet.

575
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,040
Can we put him in A?

576
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,480
He's on the exact same line of thought as the Emperor.

577
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,120
Are we saying he's not as bad as Asmodei?

578
00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:53,400
No, Asmodei just didn't make his own freaking species that he's a father.

579
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,400
Fabius Bile would at least have some interesting conversation.

580
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:07,400
I like the idea that Colin's answer was like, Fabius has better social cues than Asmodei.

581
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,200
Okay, put him in A. That's fine.

582
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,160
He's S tier, bro.

583
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,160
Come on.

584
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:21,000
Should we just put him in A and move on?

585
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,160
His first lines in Horth Rising are immediate red flags.

586
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,160
He's never been a nice guy.

587
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,160
Eidolon's also an S tier.

588
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,160
That's who that is?

589
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,160
What the f-

590
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,160
It's like Henry DeVille Eidolon weird thing.

591
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,320
No, that's the guy Jason Isaacs.

592
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:42,320
He's Malfoy's type.

593
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,320
Oh, yeah, okay.

594
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:44,320
That makes sense.

595
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:45,320
Should we read some donations?

596
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:46,320
Oh yes, we have donations.

597
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:47,320
We've been going for like almost half an hour.

598
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:48,320
Apologies, brothers.

599
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:49,320
Let's go.

600
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:50,320
Donkeyman, USA for five minutes.

601
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:55,320
Thank you very much.

602
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,480
Stream late due to halgooning to the emperor.

603
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,480
Masked with thunder warriors.

604
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,240
That's really ironic.

605
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,760
Bunny cop for five bucks.

606
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,320
Empt doesn't do things for the good of man.

607
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:13,400
He does things for his ideal potential mankind.

608
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,320
S ranked red flag plus fooks that guy.

609
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,320
You're real for that bunny cop.

610
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:21,320
Want to taste one?

611
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,320
I have a grant for Snorty.

612
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,320
Thank you for being a member for 11 months coming up on a year.

613
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:27,320
Your goated.

614
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,320
Their opinion on harpoons decides of S or F tier.

615
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,320
Well, when we get to Luther Harkon.

616
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,320
Boy, that's horrid.

617
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:39,320
Caleb Collins with the two.

618
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,320
He gets a sounding bead when he breaks a fallen.

619
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:43,320
Thank you for that.

620
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,320
That's hilarious though.

621
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,320
Oh, glass laughter with the tether.

622
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,320
Hi guys.

623
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:54,320
Just finished my ice avatar of Kane who got cursed by Hildreth because my custom craft

624
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,320
world stow his car.

625
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:57,320
Nice.

626
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:58,320
Thank you.

627
00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:59,320
Hell yeah.

628
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:00,320
How's new catchphrases?

629
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,320
Hear me out.

630
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:02,320
Thank you.

631
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:03,320
You got it.

632
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:04,320
You got it.

633
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:05,320
I don't get man.

634
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:10,320
I have to really say I love the profile pic of the Shrek donkey.

635
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:11,320
Sarah.

636
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:16,320
Eli likes people's clothes.

637
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,320
What does that mean?

638
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:20,320
Yeah.

639
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,320
Everyone likes people's clothes.

640
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,320
Do they not?

641
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:24,320
Anyway, red flag.

642
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,320
What does that mean?

643
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,320
I feel like there was a time when he was an okay guy though.

644
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,320
I don't think he's a walking red flag.

645
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:31,320
He's a or B tier.

646
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,320
Wait, he's a tier thing.

647
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:33,320
The guy was a guy.

648
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,320
I don't know.

649
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:35,320
I don't know.

650
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:36,320
I don't know.

651
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:37,320
I don't know.

652
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:38,320
I don't know.

653
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,320
I don't know.

654
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,320
I think he's a tier thing.

655
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,320
Hold on.

656
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:52,120
The guy who forces nine out of 10 of his men to beat the other guy as a punishment isn't

657
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,120
a red flag.

658
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,120
Okay.

659
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,120
Yeah.

660
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,120
But this is his whole life we're talking about though.

661
00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:00,480
Before that happened, he was an okay dude.

662
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:01,640
He wasn't okay.

663
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,040
He was just aloof.

664
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,440
If you bothered to talk to them, he'd call you a stupid asshole for not being on his

665
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:08,440
level.

666
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:09,440
Still a tier.

667
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:10,440
That's pretty much just the emperor.

668
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,520
If I'm not weak, this dude's got no problem.

669
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,240
There's no, but yeah, you're weak.

670
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,080
My perda rabo standards are like, are you God?

671
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,080
No pussy.

672
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:25,360
He feels regret when he did bad things.

673
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,520
My disappointment in sons is not exactly unique.

674
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,400
I commit a war crime, but I feel bad now.

675
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:33,720
That's better than the emperor.

676
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,240
The emperor never freaking felt remorse for anybody.

677
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,360
You know, fair enough.

678
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,040
I think he deserves a tier below the emperor.

679
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,040
Surely.

680
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,040
Wow.

681
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,040
Oops.

682
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,040
War crime.

683
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,040
Thank you.

684
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,040
Thank you very much.

685
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,280
I don't think he's a, I honestly don't compare to so many other people in the list.

686
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:56,920
He must be at least in B. He's below fulcrum is more of a walking red flag than perda rabo.

687
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,320
Now not before though.

688
00:29:58,320 --> 00:29:59,320
Yeah.

689
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:00,320
I don't agree with that.

690
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:01,320
Most of fulcrum's life.

691
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:02,320
He was an okay dude.

692
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,960
And then one of these people created the obliterator virus and it's not fulcrum.

693
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,480
He gets other kinds of viruses out.

694
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,240
And bear in mind that the sun is a fun guy made his demon kill Abba.

695
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,240
So I think you do.

696
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,840
Hey, so has his moments.

697
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:20,840
All right.

698
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,040
The emperor does not have his moments.

699
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,040
That's what I'm thinking.

700
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,040
Yeah.

701
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,040
Well, we really get it.

702
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,040
All right.

703
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,720
He did it one time.

704
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:32,720
Okay.

705
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:33,720
It's only one thing.

706
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:34,720
Yeah.

707
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,200
You know, if the hell don't you dare laugh at that?

708
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,440
If you were going all about the one thing for bile.

709
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,560
No, he only did it once.

710
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:41,560
Your honor.

711
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:42,560
He only did it once.

712
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,720
He's really sorry.

713
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,840
I wish I'd read the iron warriors books.

714
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,840
Somebody freaking bust you.

715
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:50,840
Oh my gosh.

716
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:58,320
Honestly, this guy's more of a walking red flag than a fabulous bile because I'm pretty

717
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,960
sure like a fabulous bile is more of like, it's an experiment.

718
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,960
I'm pretty sure there's a part of Honsu who's like, it's fun.

719
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,920
It's more of a walking red flag.

720
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,920
I mean, he's an iron warrior.

721
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,720
Yeah, that's already automatically.

722
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,320
Any post-heresy iron warrior is probably going to make it to A tier.

723
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,640
Actually I just realized there's no escaping Fabius bile, but I could potentially get away

724
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,640
from Honsu.

725
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,520
If I try to escape Fabius, he's like, why would you escape?

726
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:30,520
You're the furniture.

727
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:36,120
Like, you know, I mean, yeah, maybe Fabius is slightly worse.

728
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:37,680
Yeah, probably.

729
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,960
Well, put it this way.

730
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,560
Fabius clones many copies of himself to commit simultaneous atrocities.

731
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,280
Honsu's only in one place at one time.

732
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:47,500
So there is that.

733
00:31:47,500 --> 00:31:52,520
Just a weird little bit of genocidal mania.

734
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:57,320
Fabius bile is moonlighting as the final boss in Inquisitor and also is in the never, no

735
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,400
one's ever read the blood angels omnibus.

736
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,280
He's in that he's in all sorts of like, oh wow, he's everywhere.

737
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:03,280
What's up Fabius?

738
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,080
People are saying Honsu is the worst Imperial fixed.

739
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,800
When do blood angels show up in the Horus heresy?

740
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,560
I've read 20 Horus heresy books and not a single one has been.

741
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,040
Technically they predate the Horus heresy because Cygnus was before Istvan, but they're

742
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,800
in like book 20 or something Cygnus stuff.

743
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,080
Yeah, they're not already in it.

744
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,960
You find corpses of blood angels in Horus rising.

745
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,920
Cygnus Prime, then Imperium Ticundus, then basically Terra.

746
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,960
So they get some flower, you know, they get some attention more towards the end especially.

747
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,160
I mean the other big thing is at the end I guess it kind of makes sense.

748
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,920
I don't really want to read 60 Horus heresy books to get one drop of blood angels lore.

749
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,040
I'm gonna be honest.

750
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:48,400
Eli literally doing the fan-os thing like, all that for a drop of blood angels.

751
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,400
Truly.

752
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:50,880
Yeah, we're having there.

753
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:57,880
I wonder where he's gonna go.

754
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:58,880
Nothing wrong.

755
00:32:58,880 --> 00:32:59,880
No, no.

756
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:04,120
He's definitely E or D. He's still a Primark at the end of the day.

757
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:05,960
Andy, Andy, hear me out.

758
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:06,960
McCann.

759
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:07,960
Okay.

760
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:08,960
Okay.

761
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:09,960
Go, go, go.

762
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:10,960
Let's put E tier.

763
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,880
All right, hear me out.

764
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:18,760
If he's one of his things, if he doesn't, if he thinks you're looking down, he's good.

765
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,960
I feel like his starting point is he assumes you're looking down on him if you don't do

766
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,480
everything just like he does.

767
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:26,480
Even if you don't understand.

768
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,280
You could just be like, I don't want to understand what you're all about.

769
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,520
He's gonna take it as, nah, you think I'm stupid.

770
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:33,520
I hate you.

771
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,920
Also, you're never going to get, you're also never going to truly know him as a person.

772
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,240
Well, no, there was the example of, what's her name?

773
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:46,680
The Imperial commander who's like assigned to the White Scars in the, and she's like

774
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:47,680
a mortal lady.

775
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:48,680
Yeah.

776
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,880
And she's like, she wants to understand their ways.

777
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,680
And the Khan's actually very like patient with her.

778
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,280
And he's like, oh, well, this is how we do this.

779
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,800
And by the time they get to the Siege of Terror, they're like really good friends.

780
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:02,360
And there's a point where he's, he's died and she's like, ah, is it Elias?

781
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,200
And she's like, she's like an older lady, older lady.

782
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,840
And she's really sad about it.

783
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:11,680
And also she has a good bond with Shiban Khan and like all the other guys.

784
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:12,680
He puts the effort in.

785
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,240
He's just like, he doesn't expect people to know what he's about.

786
00:34:15,240 --> 00:34:19,240
He's just like, I'm not going to pass you off, but it's like, it's going to be tricky.

787
00:34:19,240 --> 00:34:21,280
Almost joined Horus.

788
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,280
Let's be honest.

789
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:23,280
Almost.

790
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,280
That's just because he's cool.

791
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,120
That's just because he's literally, he was, he was literally the only Primarch to be like,

792
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:29,120
oh, Suzuya.

793
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,320
I have no idea what's going on.

794
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,480
I'm going to, I'm going to, what's happening.

795
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:33,480
Hmm.

796
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:34,480
Let's have a look.

797
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:35,480
And even when Leeman's asked, like, come on, help me.

798
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,000
He's like, nah, I've got to wait.

799
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,200
I've got to figure out what, who, are you a heretic?

800
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,200
I don't know.

801
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,200
I think he, I think he.

802
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:47,200
Even the Shard of Magnus literally said like, it's 50-50, whether he joins Horus or not.

803
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,040
He's always going to be keeping part of himself from you.

804
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,880
You're never fully going to know this guy.

805
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,720
I think also even in the Alpha Legion part, they said like, if the Alpha Legion wasn't

806
00:34:57,720 --> 00:35:01,920
like blockading them, he would have been found by Horus first and Horus would have corrupted

807
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:02,920
him.

808
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:08,560
So like there's a part of him which is like, he's so anti-emperor, which is ironic because

809
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,760
he's also like, oh, the Emperor might need.

810
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,600
Which is, which is just smart.

811
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:13,600
Yeah.

812
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:14,600
Cause all the Emperor company people.

813
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:15,600
Like, what do you do?

814
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,320
What do you do, mate?

815
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,680
And there's, and there's also that bit during Siege of Terra where he's chatting with Sanguin.

816
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,520
He's like, you can see the future.

817
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,360
Like if I go out there and I fight, will I die?

818
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:26,360
He's like, yeah.

819
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:27,960
It's like, will I save some civilians?

820
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:28,960
Yeah.

821
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:29,960
I'm going out.

822
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,040
Like he did the, he did the SpongeBob meme, you know, like.

823
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,720
Oh no, he's the goodest boy, but like.

824
00:35:35,720 --> 00:35:36,720
He's still eating.

825
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:37,720
He's not perv.

826
00:35:37,720 --> 00:35:42,000
I think he's just a bit, I think he's just, he's a bit too aloof.

827
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,760
I think if you did have a disagreement, I don't think he would like, try super hard

828
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:47,920
to hear you out.

829
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,960
His whole thing is that nobody really knows him.

830
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:52,960
That's like half of his character.

831
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,280
He wouldn't, he wouldn't be, he wouldn't be honest with you.

832
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:56,280
You can't communicate.

833
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:57,280
You'd be like, how are you feeling today?

834
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,280
He's like, yes.

835
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,080
He'll answer in some, some riddle, some wise riddle.

836
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:03,080
Adoptive dad.

837
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,080
Adoptive dad.

838
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,080
Oh my gosh, put him in Ebro.

839
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,080
It's still fair.

840
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,080
Moving on.

841
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:13,240
It's not even a red flag, it's like an orange flag.

842
00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:14,240
Like, oh, it's not gray.

843
00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:15,240
It's like, it's yellow.

844
00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:16,240
Korsaro Khan.

845
00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:17,240
He seems like an okay guy.

846
00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:18,240
He doesn't have an elder.

847
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:19,240
I've read him in like three books and he doesn't really have a character.

848
00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:20,240
I'm not gonna lie.

849
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:21,240
He's a nice guy.

850
00:36:21,240 --> 00:36:22,240
F-tier?

851
00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:23,240
F-tier?

852
00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:24,240
Helped an elder?

853
00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:25,240
He's a real one.

854
00:36:25,240 --> 00:36:26,240
He helped him escape from Oberyn.

855
00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:27,240
Oberyn and, what's his name?

856
00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:28,240
Zandar.

857
00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:29,240
Zandar.

858
00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:30,240
Zandar.

859
00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:31,240
Zandar.

860
00:36:31,240 --> 00:36:32,240
Zandar.

861
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:33,240
Zandar.

862
00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:34,240
Zandar.

863
00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:35,240
Zandar.

864
00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:36,240
What's his name?

865
00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:37,240
Zandar and Oberyn.

866
00:36:37,240 --> 00:36:42,840
He fought, he honorably fought Shadow Sun, which is cool.

867
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:43,840
He's a cool guy.

868
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,640
I don't, he's, does he have much?

869
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,280
I've read, like I said, I've read three books with him in it and he's just really, he seems

870
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,100
like a very flat character.

871
00:36:51,100 --> 00:36:52,100
I don't know.

872
00:36:52,100 --> 00:36:53,100
Yeah.

873
00:36:53,100 --> 00:36:57,040
The only thing is he doesn't have many books and it's all like, the great Khan is so badly

874
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,280
like like deformed by the Red Corsairs.

875
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,200
He's in command but he's like in a vat.

876
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,460
He like, he can't be a dreadnought, but he's in charge.

877
00:37:04,460 --> 00:37:07,720
He's like, I'm going to make you like the master of the hunt so you can actually lead

878
00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:08,720
the chapter.

879
00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:14,880
I'm still the like great Khan, but I'm better suited being in this vat doing the coordinating.

880
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:15,880
You go out there and fight.

881
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:16,880
And he's like, yeah.

882
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,280
He kind of just seems to do stuff.

883
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,280
He just, he just fights.

884
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,480
That's kind of his whole thing.

885
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,720
His character floor is he hasn't got any like books for the most part.

886
00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:28,820
I don't know if he deserves F tier just because he has low character development.

887
00:37:28,820 --> 00:37:29,820
That seems pretty generous.

888
00:37:29,820 --> 00:37:32,820
But every time he shows up he's like, oh, I'm going to fight honorably with Shadow Sun.

889
00:37:32,820 --> 00:37:36,640
Also, my brother is so badly wounded.

890
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:37,640
He doesn't want to be a dreadnought.

891
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,040
Do you mind killing him for his honor?

892
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,040
And Shadow Sun does it.

893
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:45,520
I feel like I'm remembering something, which is like, it's the reason he wasn't also, he

894
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,760
didn't hand over chapter master to him.

895
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,040
Was it the Jubal Khan, the one in the vat?

896
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,120
He did say like, it's because you're rash or something.

897
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:59,840
Like there's a reason he wouldn't give it to him like properly.

898
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,040
So he's just a miniature version of the Khan at the end of the day.

899
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,040
He's just a white scar.

900
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,960
I think he should be an E tier.

901
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:06,960
And he's not a first captain.

902
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,960
He's like third or fourth probably.

903
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,280
Yeah, E tier because I feel like he can't be better than him.

904
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,920
Khan is the perfect white scar.

905
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:17,360
It doesn't make much sense for his less perfect sons to be better than him.

906
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:18,360
Yeah.

907
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:19,360
Above the Khan.

908
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:20,360
Sure.

909
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:21,360
He didn't adopt anyone.

910
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,360
No, it's because the end is the mother.

911
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:25,360
Oh, I see.

912
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:26,360
Yeah, yeah.

913
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:27,360
I'm being stupid.

914
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,680
I feel like he's a D tier.

915
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:31,680
I feel like he's an okay.

916
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:32,680
He's really not that bad.

917
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,240
But he's definitely got problems.

918
00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:36,320
But look, I would hang out with Russ.

919
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:37,640
I think it'd be fun.

920
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:42,900
Look, the problems are that, you know, his job is the emperor's executioner.

921
00:38:42,900 --> 00:38:44,640
You know, he's seen some stuff.

922
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:45,640
It's not great.

923
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,800
He's probably going to come home every couple nights with a haunted look on his face and

924
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,560
just go to bed.

925
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,040
And every time he goes out to party, it's going to be the most insane thing ever.

926
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,680
Yeah, there's a drink with the lads and come back in five months.

927
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,120
He's also pretending to be an idiot.

928
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:06,920
But he's actually an idiot pretending not to be an idiot.

929
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,120
Don't talk about my boy, Russ, like that.

930
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:13,520
There's some problems, but no one's perfect.

931
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,040
Such as like, you know, possibly the guys are good.

932
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:20,240
I was going to say possibly the only character to show anger and kindness by not killing

933
00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:23,840
him during the what's it where it's him and the wolf is the battle of the wolf.

934
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:28,000
And he's like, I'm not going to like really fight you.

935
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,720
And I'm trying to reason with you.

936
00:39:29,720 --> 00:39:32,200
I pity you, but you don't know what you're doing.

937
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,640
And then I was like, bro, you didn't win.

938
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:35,640
And then I was like, I beat his ass.

939
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,640
He's like, bro, you didn't win.

940
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:39,640
Russ is a real one.

941
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:40,640
Russ is a real one.

942
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:45,160
It's as amazing as like when Dawn was like, are you going to stay and help defend Terra?

943
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:49,920
And he's like, nah, I'm going to go launch it at Horus.

944
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,120
And everyone's like, but he knows you're coming.

945
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,280
But yeah, those space walls are going to die.

946
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,200
And your legion might be massacred.

947
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,200
Yeah, I'm going to.

948
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:05,680
It was a complete waste of time, man.

949
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,000
But bro, bro's got almost won that fight.

950
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,520
He won that fight.

951
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,880
So he did also bring Horus back from like possession.

952
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,680
And then Horus was like, no, actually, I do want to kill the Empress.

953
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:24,400
He fumbled the bag too many times.

954
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,000
But if the flaw there is, you know, he loved his brother enough to not want to kill him

955
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,160
if he thought there was a chance.

956
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:30,560
I don't think that's a red flag.

957
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,040
Yeah, I think that's pretty nice.

958
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,040
I think D2 is fine.

959
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,040
D2 is fine.

960
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,040
Yeah, D2 is fine.

961
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,720
And he was the only Primarch who liked Lorgar as well, which is funny.

962
00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:39,720
He's real for that.

963
00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:40,720
He's so real for that.

964
00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:41,720
Yeah, I just liked him.

965
00:40:41,720 --> 00:40:42,720
Kind of.

966
00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:47,440
Also, we got a lot of mania glazing in the chat room.

967
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:52,120
That whole event, I'm just you know that what that whole event was is a tried to kill Horus

968
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:56,400
before the siege syndrome that was the writers needed to fill.

969
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:01,780
GW needed to fill more book space before they could stop milking the heresy.

970
00:41:01,780 --> 00:41:05,400
So why isn't Russ at the siege?

971
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:06,960
Put on the stupid hat, wolf boy.

972
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:12,680
To be fair, there is like a whole book was just like Horus sitting on the throne, like

973
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,680
constipated like, is he OK?

974
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,720
He's like, yeah, Russ stabbed him, he's not doing too well.

975
00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:20,240
There's a whole book of him recovering from that.

976
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:23,320
If there was anyone who's going to beat Horus, I give it to I give it to Russ.

977
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,320
I'm not an idiot.

978
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:25,320
Wink wink.

979
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:26,320
Logan Grimara.

980
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:27,320
The goat.

981
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:28,320
The goat.

982
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:29,320
He's walking around.

983
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:36,520
No, I think Azrael was his mistake was not trying harder to do with the exterminatus.

984
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,440
I think this guy's most pot armor is more hammer.

985
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,960
Yeah, bro, I get to carry around a corned axe and I fight Magnus the Red and I'm so

986
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:44,960
hot in Green Night's.

987
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,640
Yeah, I kill Green Night Grand Masters with one blow.

988
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,160
He's so goaded.

989
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,160
He's so goaded.

990
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:56,680
He's here because this dude literally said, why stop killing civilians?

991
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:57,680
That's cringe.

992
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:58,680
Yeah.

993
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,320
And then the Imperial was like, no.

994
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,120
And he was like, well, I'm just going to sit here.

995
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,480
And then he was like, I'm going to test this new axe I got from a demon.

996
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:06,480
This is pretty cool.

997
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:11,080
Look, look, the corned axe is really hard to get over.

998
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,280
It started laughing when he hit Magnus with it.

999
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,320
Let's not get rid of that shit, bro.

1000
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,600
No, it's mine.

1001
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:19,600
He's real.

1002
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:20,960
It's too strong to get corrupted by chaos.

1003
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:21,960
He's Logan Grimnahr.

1004
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:22,960
He cannot lose.

1005
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:23,960
Yeah, it is amusing.

1006
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,160
Where was Kaldor Drago for Space Wolves?

1007
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,040
Yeah, people like Kaldor Drago.

1008
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:30,280
I love Kaldor Drago.

1009
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:31,760
I love Kaldor Drago.

1010
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,160
He's also the goat.

1011
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:39,840
And it is also very amusing when he hits Magnus with the axe of Morkai and literally the plot

1012
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:44,320
notes is just like, and then somewhere corn is just like going...

1013
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,720
And that's like, that's actually canon.

1014
00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:48,200
Everyone's like, what the hell was that?

1015
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,320
And just corn laughing.

1016
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,040
My weapons have had a giggle before.

1017
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:56,640
Not quite related, but did you know there's a fantasy character who got so lost he found

1018
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,640
Magnus?

1019
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:04,360
It's the book, the Libra Chaotica, it's written as if it's an in-universe text.

1020
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,940
And the guy who was reading it or writing it got so goddamn lost in the warp.

1021
00:43:08,940 --> 00:43:10,360
He found Magnus the Red.

1022
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:11,360
Wow.

1023
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:16,440
And even made a comment about it.

1024
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,800
Also the way you phrased that just made me think, someone knocking on your door like,

1025
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,880
excuse me, have you heard of our Lord and Savior?

1026
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:22,880
Magnus the Red?

1027
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:23,880
Like what?

1028
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:24,880
I found Magnus.

1029
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:25,880
Ragnar Blackmane.

1030
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:31,920
I read his six frickin' books one day.

1031
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,240
Me and Andy have read them.

1032
00:43:33,240 --> 00:43:40,000
That's because every Ragnar Blackmane book means that William King wasn't writing a gothic

1033
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,000
and phoenix book, so fuck that.

1034
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,720
But he cooked though, that's the whole point.

1035
00:43:44,720 --> 00:43:46,000
They are good.

1036
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,600
I wanted him to cook a different meal.

1037
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:55,000
He also wrote the Solan Mercarius one, which no one will ever make a video on again other

1038
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,000
than Andy.

1039
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,040
Andy's done it and no one will do it again.

1040
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,080
I haven't done the Mercarius one yet.

1041
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,220
It's irrelevant.

1042
00:44:02,220 --> 00:44:05,440
Those are guard books, so he's allowed to cook that meal.

1043
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:06,440
It's irrelevant.

1044
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,320
There's no plot, all the characters are gone.

1045
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:10,880
Young Logan.

1046
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,800
I want more of that.

1047
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:13,800
I want more of that.

1048
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,360
It's 10,000 years of history.

1049
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,440
More of that should be happening regularly.

1050
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:26,160
I think Ragnar goes between Kusaro and the Khan because Ragnar's actually like, he's

1051
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:30,000
a sensible dude and he actually cares for people.

1052
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,280
He's not space wolfy, space wolfy, if you know what I mean.

1053
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,880
He genuinely actually has a compelling story.

1054
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:37,880
He's good to people.

1055
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:42,680
He actually cares for civilians and he fights to protect people.

1056
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,360
He's kind of gone over his red flags.

1057
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:49,120
He's very bullheadish and kind of lost the spirit of rust.

1058
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,120
Oops.

1059
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,520
He literally threw it into the warp.

1060
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,760
Literally yeeted it into the warp.

1061
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,560
Chucked it into Magnus' eye twice and beat him twice.

1062
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:00,560
Thanks Colin.

1063
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:01,560
Four thousand sunspans.

1064
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:02,560
He's alright.

1065
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,240
Yeah, he's pretty cool.

1066
00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:08,080
I think all the space wolf characters are really...

1067
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,840
I think you'd enjoy that book Colin, his first book as well.

1068
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,120
The space wolf character is a lot better than the space wolf chapter.

1069
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,120
William King writes good.

1070
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:23,960
Just for a contrast then, we've got Ulrich the Slayer.

1071
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,640
All I'm going to say, biggest red flag.

1072
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:31,760
He's in the fight during the second war of Armageddon, I think it is.

1073
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,960
Angron sees him killing his berserkers and he salutes him.

1074
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:36,960
Red flag.

1075
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:37,960
That's not good.

1076
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,280
You might have some angry stuff going on.

1077
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,640
Older space wolf, known as the Slayer.

1078
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,800
He's literally wearing a red flag.

1079
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:46,800
Exactly.

1080
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,000
Those are trying to die.

1081
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,000
I'm pretty sure.

1082
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,800
Is he on the same tier as Pertorabo?

1083
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:52,800
Really?

1084
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:53,800
He actually knows.

1085
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:54,800
He's probably from Angron.

1086
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:55,800
You don't salute from Angron.

1087
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:56,800
He's like, I'm going to do that.

1088
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:03,560
He has a huge red flag though, which is like, he even says in like the wolf time book, because

1089
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,560
I mean, like he's saying to Logan Grimnod, yeah, let's go do that fight.

1090
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:07,560
It'd be great.

1091
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:11,640
And Logan's like, this guy's just trying to get us all killed because it'll be a great

1092
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:12,640
story.

1093
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,640
We should attack Gilman, why not?

1094
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:16,640
He's like...

1095
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,960
On Primaris the Cringe, we should shoot Gilman's fleet, why not?

1096
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:19,960
Fuck the Primaris.

1097
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,560
Okay, no Ulrich, no.

1098
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:22,840
We can't do that.

1099
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,560
He's comfortably next to Lionel Johnson there, I think.

1100
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,160
Kyle hates the working class.

1101
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,840
Why do people say this?

1102
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:37,400
Mr. Tacticus, Njall Stormcaller, the Tempest that walks.

1103
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:38,840
I haven't read any of his books.

1104
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:44,520
I've got information like 404, nothing found in my brain for this guy.

1105
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:45,520
You guys have fun.

1106
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,320
And he's gonna have to choose this one.

1107
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:54,680
All I'm saying, he went on a quest where he was looking in the warp, as you do, and then

1108
00:46:54,680 --> 00:47:00,920
one of the Thousand Sons from the Legion possessed part of his brain and lived in his brain for

1109
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:01,920
a while.

1110
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,120
So he went to Ulrich and he's like, I've kind of been a bit possessed.

1111
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,520
There's like a Thousand Son in my brain.

1112
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,720
And then he went to Prospero with Ayak and a bunch of other guys.

1113
00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:11,960
He went to Lucas.

1114
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:16,240
Lucas also dunked on Magnus, so that's like five space wolves that have beaten Magnus

1115
00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:18,480
Red in battle now.

1116
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:22,600
And yeah, he's just kind of like, oh, I actually set to rest this Ancient Thousand Sons.

1117
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,600
I found the Thirteenth Company.

1118
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:25,600
I'm pretty cool.

1119
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,640
I'm a Rune Priest.

1120
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:32,200
Thousand Sons might have a worse track record than the Eldar.

1121
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:36,040
Yeah, that's crazy.

1122
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,960
I'm ready for Magnus so badly though.

1123
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:51,240
I mean, see, surely, because he's not that, he's honest with you.

1124
00:47:51,240 --> 00:47:56,560
He's going to stick by you, but he also will not cry when anybody passes away.

1125
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:05,160
And if you mess up the wrong way, he's going to disown you as your husband.

1126
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:10,680
Also it's like, look, you're going to see him like he's had a bad day.

1127
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,840
He walks home, he puts on the pain glove.

1128
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,640
That's great.

1129
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:16,640
Not a good look.

1130
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,040
He's going to try to get you to wear the pain glove too.

1131
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:20,040
Yeah, that too.

1132
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:26,000
And for those who don't know in the viewership, it's not a glove.

1133
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,000
It's like a bodysuit.

1134
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,240
Yeah, it's like called glove.

1135
00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:34,440
It's like, there's some way that the register should properly explain it.

1136
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:35,440
Not great for me.

1137
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:36,800
It's a whole thing.

1138
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:37,800
It's a contraption.

1139
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:38,800
He puts on the contraption.

1140
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,080
I think he's got almost as many problems as Pro Traba.

1141
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:42,080
I'm not going to lie.

1142
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:48,280
Yeah, but they're all like infinitely less pronounced and consistent.

1143
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:54,440
It's a lot of the same stuff, but Dorn's not going to tell you, hey, you and nine of your

1144
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,560
friends pick one of you to die.

1145
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,440
I mean, Irene Cage, he pretty much did that.

1146
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:04,960
Yeah, but that was him and his equally deranged sons also wanting to go to that.

1147
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,480
Hear me out.

1148
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,320
Dorn has a room that you're not allowed in.

1149
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:14,400
It's always locked and he says you're never allowed in that room.

1150
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,400
That's the kind of guy Dorn is.

1151
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:21,760
He'll have a room or a closet, which is like there's something dark in there and you're

1152
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,600
not allowed to see it.

1153
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,400
I think he's pretty much comfy right there.

1154
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,480
Also I love how like Korn was trying to tempt him during the end of Medef.

1155
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:32,480
He's like, come on, be evil.

1156
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,480
He's like, no, you're really angry outside, aren't you?

1157
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:41,680
40,000 years of military history to himself the entire time.

1158
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:49,600
To keep himself safe, godspeed Rogel Dorn.

1159
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,160
Let's recite the Bible of Agincourt on repeat.

1160
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:59,160
Yeah, Korn joined me and he's just reading the art of war aloud to himself.

1161
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:00,160
All right, man.

1162
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,560
Yeah, the chat wants you to turn up your mic, Andy.

1163
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,000
Okay, that's nice.

1164
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,200
I think he's fine there.

1165
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,200
He's fine.

1166
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,360
Quantum Cthulhu, you're not wrong, but that's not Rogel Dorn telling me to do it.

1167
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:12,360
So what's your point?

1168
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:13,360
Siegismund.

1169
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:20,800
He's got to be, at least to be.

1170
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,360
He's got to be next to Asriel.

1171
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,880
Yeah, I don't think any Black Templar could make it below B tier.

1172
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:27,880
He shocked Karn.

1173
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:34,000
Karn got a vision of the future as a coronate warrior and was afraid of what Siegismund's

1174
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,520
bastard children were going to do to the galaxy.

1175
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:41,080
He hates people so much he's gone beyond anger and he's calm again.

1176
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:42,560
Like that's the level I'm like.

1177
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,440
I'm calm, I'm just going to annihilate.

1178
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:46,600
I just want to talk to him.

1179
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:47,600
I just want to talk to him.

1180
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:48,600
I just want to shoot him.

1181
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:54,640
You know what, he just reminds me of that scene in Night's Oral Republic 2 where you're in

1182
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:59,200
one of the Sith temples and they're just like, apotheous death, apotheous death, and then

1183
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:00,200
they will turn on you.

1184
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,240
Like yeah, he doesn't even feel any emotions, he's just like, I must kill you because that's

1185
00:51:03,240 --> 00:51:04,240
the thing to do.

1186
00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:05,240
And Korn's bricking it.

1187
00:51:05,240 --> 00:51:14,280
A guy who solos Karn in under one paragraph, I'd be pretty scared of that guy.

1188
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:15,280
Yeah.

1189
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,040
Emotionally unavailable, cripplingly as well.

1190
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,440
Like obviously loses but holds up to full grip.

1191
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,480
Like isn't turned into a smear on the spot.

1192
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,440
You know that's a scary dude.

1193
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:30,040
Before we get too far, we did have a donation I think by Bean if we're able to get that

1194
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,640
one, just because it was relevant on the characters.

1195
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,440
Set it up Andy.

1196
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:36,440
Bean.

1197
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,720
Guys, this is my OC Logan Grimnall.

1198
00:51:39,720 --> 00:51:43,720
He fights the Inquisition and Grey Knights and also has a Chaos weapon that can't corrupt

1199
00:51:43,720 --> 00:51:45,440
him because he's so cool.

1200
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,400
That's a great OC thing for the $5.

1201
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,800
Yeah, Ultramarines only for that please.

1202
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:52,800
They deserve it.

1203
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:53,800
This one is hellbrekt.

1204
00:51:53,800 --> 00:52:00,720
Hellbrekt's an OK guy, but he will send you to your death without flinching.

1205
00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:03,000
I'd put him like right behind Sigismund.

1206
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:08,960
Yeah, it's like again, you know, hero of Hell's Reach shit, but it's also like he's still

1207
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,200
a Black Templar.

1208
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:14,320
Like you're not a Black Templar if there's not some deep-seated issues.

1209
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,520
I think I'd put him in with Valdor.

1210
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:21,560
It's very Valdor in terms of like, he's like, I don't want to always do these things, but

1211
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,440
I just will on the spot.

1212
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:30,600
My thing is though, it's like he was obviously recruited and inducted into the Black Templars.

1213
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:35,640
You're not like that if you don't have some like bad tendencies.

1214
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,360
Yeah, let alone leading them.

1215
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,960
Yeah, it's like again, he has his moments.

1216
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,840
He's not as bad as, you know, a lot of people.

1217
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:46,960
Not good.

1218
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:47,960
Very not good.

1219
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:48,960
What about that?

1220
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:53,000
And he has that like band that I think is like stapled into his scalp like that.

1221
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,040
It's not a tiara, but it's just like that band that's around and says like, that doesn't

1222
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:57,760
look like it comes off to me.

1223
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:58,760
Something wrong there.

1224
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,760
He's a cellar.

1225
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,400
We know we're not getting into it.

1226
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:04,400
My favorite character.

1227
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,400
Although I say model from 1990.

1228
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,000
Grimaldus of the Black Templars.

1229
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:14,040
I would, I mean, he's obviously a Black Templar.

1230
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:15,040
That's a problem.

1231
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:16,040
Yeah.

1232
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:17,040
Same as, same as.

1233
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:18,040
Yeah.

1234
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:22,200
He's more zealous because he's a chaplain.

1235
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:26,000
Grimaldus actually, like he's had a, he's had a.

1236
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,000
I don't.

1237
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:32,840
I think Valdor's whole thing is like what it's like Valdor's red flag is he's a concrete

1238
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:34,720
block of a human being.

1239
00:53:34,720 --> 00:53:35,720
There's nothing.

1240
00:53:35,720 --> 00:53:39,880
There's loyalty to the emperor and standing around.

1241
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,240
To be fair.

1242
00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:45,320
Yeah, but Grimaldus' red flags are brighter.

1243
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:51,520
The thing is, there is that point he's a bit short with a, like a communications officer

1244
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,400
and he says sorry afterwards.

1245
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:58,040
I also like that he tries to put the effort in, which is like, Andre's just like, ah,

1246
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,360
there's this lady and I really like her and I want to marry her.

1247
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,320
And he's just like, yes, good.

1248
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:06,280
He's like, he's trying, but he doesn't care that much, but he's putting the effort in

1249
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:07,280
at least.

1250
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:11,040
Forgive me for living while you all lie cold and still.

1251
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:12,320
Poor dude.

1252
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,440
Do you see that?

1253
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,240
Are you as insulted as I am?

1254
00:54:16,240 --> 00:54:18,320
Do you know me?

1255
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,360
It's like, huh?

1256
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,640
No, no, no, no, no.

1257
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,280
No, actually.

1258
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,280
Who are you?

1259
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:28,280
Fucking shout.

1260
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:29,280
Oh, hello.

1261
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:30,280
There is another.

1262
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:35,280
I'm just going to get a refund.

1263
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:40,600
We can move on.

1264
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,760
We don't need to sit out.

1265
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,880
Only if he saw in the future that he did that to you, to be fair.

1266
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:46,880
If he didn't.

1267
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:53,560
If he doesn't see himself skinning you, then he's just likely to do it.

1268
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:57,560
Unless he saw it.

1269
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:01,480
I just feel sorry for the guy he's on a ship with for months and then he's like, I'm only

1270
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,360
taking bits of him away at a time.

1271
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:04,360
He's fine.

1272
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:05,360
He's like, please don't hurt me.

1273
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,000
So I'm going to take the hand off.

1274
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,400
You're going to build you a replacement.

1275
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:11,400
There's no traffic.

1276
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,640
So you cross the crosswalk, even though it, you know, the hand is there.

1277
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:15,640
You're dead.

1278
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:16,920
You're not done.

1279
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,920
Skinless in the middle of the road, hanging up on the streetlight.

1280
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,400
So you're going to blink and then your skin has, you've been loved.

1281
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:30,080
You know, I joke, you know what someone earlier running on all fours, because we're immediately

1282
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,080
running on all fours.

1283
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,040
You know, that movie Split.

1284
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:37,040
Yeah.

1285
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:38,040
Yeah.

1286
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:42,960
Thing is, you know, it's also the element of like, he's, he's like the, the poster

1287
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,880
boy for like girls only want one thing is a shitty guy.

1288
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,840
It's like, yeah, it's that guy, especially with all the girls who like night flows.

1289
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,680
It's like, what do you mean he's sexy?

1290
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:52,680
It doesn't wash his hair.

1291
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:53,680
What's going on?

1292
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:54,680
Covered in blood.

1293
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:55,680
Who is this?

1294
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:56,680
Who are you?

1295
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:57,680
Jago Sevatarian.

1296
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:05,880
Another goat, but I've only read like one or two books with him.

1297
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,840
He will be an A-tif because he's turned it around slightly.

1298
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:16,920
He does say like, I will serve justice, but he, he there's, there is skin on his arm.

1299
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:17,920
He's still obsessed.

1300
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,640
Although he does, he does have that bit though, when he goes in the dark angels flagship and

1301
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,440
he kills the chief astropath cause he's abusing one of his staff.

1302
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:25,640
That's the only book I've read with him.

1303
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,880
He's just like, put me back in jail.

1304
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,240
I think that's why he avoids S tier.

1305
00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:31,240
He's still a nightlord.

1306
00:56:31,240 --> 00:56:34,600
Like if you're, if you're in the nightlords, it's a tier minimum.

1307
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:35,600
Yeah.

1308
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:40,760
He also does a coup to take over the atramenta and he's like, here's my best friend.

1309
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,800
And it's like the guy, the guy from the Raven guard, Alistair Rochelle whose tongue he cut

1310
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:45,800
out so he couldn't object.

1311
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,920
And he's just there like, and that's his character.

1312
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:50,480
Does he smiles eerily in the back?

1313
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,760
He tortured another space Marine to the point of loyalty.

1314
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:55,240
So that's crazy.

1315
00:56:55,240 --> 00:56:56,240
Yes.

1316
00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:57,240
A Raven guard.

1317
00:56:57,240 --> 00:56:58,240
Yeah.

1318
00:56:58,240 --> 00:56:59,240
Talos.

1319
00:56:59,240 --> 00:57:01,240
I haven't read his books.

1320
00:57:01,240 --> 00:57:04,720
I someday, someday I'll get through that trilogy.

1321
00:57:04,720 --> 00:57:11,400
It kind of is, he's just slightly worse than Sevatar because Sevatar is somewhat self analyzing

1322
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:12,960
and then he changed a little bit.

1323
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:19,520
Talos is like, I know we're pieces of shit, but let's die like that.

1324
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:20,520
Commit to the bit.

1325
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:24,880
Well, if I can say his worst action, which is it builds up.

1326
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:26,320
Killing Genesis chapter Marines.

1327
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:27,320
Yeah.

1328
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:28,320
Well, how dare you.

1329
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:29,320
How dare you.

1330
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:34,920
They almost, only one of them almost kills all of the first claw until I'll have the

1331
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,240
child like, all right, let's do all it.

1332
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:43,720
And then the worst thing Talos did is he kidnapped, they tortured an entire planet, kidnapped

1333
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:47,440
every navigator slash anyone who was psychically gifted.

1334
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:51,240
And then they made them, torture them to the near point of death, made them stare into

1335
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:52,240
the navigator's eyes.

1336
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:57,640
So their brain screened violently into the wall, into the wall, which created a ripple

1337
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:01,160
that cut off millions of worlds and millions of people died.

1338
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,440
Kind of a, yeah.

1339
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:04,440
Yeah.

1340
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:12,560
Buddy didn't, he also realized he was a terrible person.

1341
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:13,560
So sanguine.

1342
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:14,560
I mean, yes.

1343
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:15,560
Is he only F tier?

1344
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:20,560
Is he that really nice of a guy?

1345
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:21,560
He's a good boy.

1346
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:26,720
Again, I've only read 20 out of 40 stupid books.

1347
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:31,000
For when he goes into a blood rage and paints the wall with him.

1348
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,640
Surely he's not F. He's still F.

1349
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,640
He's never killed.

1350
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:41,920
He's the sniff sniff.

1351
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,400
Are you ovulating?

1352
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:46,400
Every day.

1353
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:47,400
I check every day.

1354
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:48,400
No, no.

1355
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:53,400
Run that back.

1356
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:58,080
Or he's always going to be that time of the month and he's going to start acting weird.

1357
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,360
I can't believe that.

1358
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:05,080
All I'm saying is every night before I go to bed, I put aside my picture of the car

1359
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:06,160
and where I kiss it.

1360
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,680
And then I have the picture of sanguineous and I cry.

1361
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,680
Listen, listen, listen.

1362
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,480
Sanguineous is the only man who can make grown men cry.

1363
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:14,480
Okay.

1364
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:15,480
Yeah.

1365
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:19,840
I cried with happiness when he finally fucking died.

1366
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:20,840
Colin.

1367
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,240
Colin is now removed.

1368
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:24,240
He's so based.

1369
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:25,240
From the rest of the stream.

1370
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:26,240
I'm not having this.

1371
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:27,240
Colin was real for that.

1372
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:28,240
Colin was real for that.

1373
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:29,240
Look.

1374
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,240
We have some donations, I think, as well.

1375
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:33,240
Just quickly.

1376
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:38,240
Oh, I saw one of these donations, by the way.

1377
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:42,240
I'm about to have words with one of them.

1378
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:43,240
Okay.

1379
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:46,080
Nicknack3587, they were the $5.

1380
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:47,480
Fabius sold a clone of Fulgrim.

1381
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,680
Fulgrim, the literal guy, Eli would take a bullet for.

1382
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:50,680
That's real.

1383
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,280
Defending the man who crushed Fulgrim's redemption, WTF.

1384
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:54,760
Yeah, I'm not seeing as a great guy.

1385
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:56,240
He's still in A tier.

1386
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,440
That's the second worst tier.

1387
00:59:58,440 --> 00:59:59,960
Yeah, you.

1388
00:59:59,960 --> 01:00:02,160
Yeah, you, Matt Eckhart.

1389
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:06,880
I have you as an Illinoisan like Colin, not enjoying the Lord might be the biggest riffle.

1390
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:07,880
You're insane.

1391
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,560
The Lord is a plague on this planet.

1392
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:11,560
It is disgusting.

1393
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:12,560
It is like Piphas's piss.

1394
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:13,560
Okay, disappear.

1395
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:14,560
That's a great drink name, by the way.

1396
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:15,560
The Lord, oh.

1397
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:24,320
Yeah, Piphas is, yeah, Yeojo for 10 bucks.

1398
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:30,000
Don't forget that after that slave took care of Curse, endured his abuse and torture on

1399
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:31,000
the ship.

1400
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:37,480
Then after, made to the planet, oh, make to the planet, Curse gives him to all favorite

1401
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,240
nightlords, Talos and the gang.

1402
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,360
Did I read that right?

1403
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,120
You mean, yeah, you extrapolate the idea.

1404
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:48,920
Yeah, he did, he just, like, I'm not gonna kill you, because I don't mind you and you're

1405
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:52,760
okay and then immediately like, gets clapped back.

1406
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:54,280
Yeah, there's some problems with the-

1407
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,920
He's just like, I didn't mean it, I didn't mean it, I'm sorry, let me make you a leg

1408
01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:59,920
to replace the one I cut off, it's fine.

1409
01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:03,120
And by the end of it he's just like, not having a good time.

1410
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:04,120
Oh.

1411
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:05,120
Shut the fuck up.

1412
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:06,120
Bean with a five.

1413
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:07,120
Thank you.

1414
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:12,120
Do you think Conrad said, well guys, I guess that's it, please let's cut his head off.

1415
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:17,120
No, he actually said, she's right behind me, isn't she?

1416
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:18,800
Like, just full Marvel movie.

1417
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,520
He just went, well, that's all folks.

1418
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:30,800
That is crazy in the book where like, a literal human is running with a severed Primark head.

1419
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:31,800
It is not.

1420
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:32,800
Yeah.

1421
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:33,800
Yeah.

1422
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,440
Oh, Colin, do you want to say this one?

1423
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:40,400
Donkey Man, you say, with a tenner, Colin and I painted a space wolf venerable dreadnought

1424
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:41,760
as a dwarf slayer.

1425
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,160
I might need to take the Slayer oath for this abomination.

1426
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:51,720
Well, if you look at it this way, you're trying to improve a flawed Oongi product by making

1427
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:52,720
it properly dwarfy.

1428
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:53,720
All right.

1429
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:54,720
He does very much.

1430
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:55,720
Perfect.

1431
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:56,720
I'll F-tear Dante.

1432
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:57,720
Dante.

1433
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:58,720
What?

1434
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:04,520
You don't want to marry the guy who just wants to die?

1435
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:05,520
First date.

1436
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:06,520
What are your hobbies?

1437
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:07,520
I'm trying to kill myself.

1438
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,520
I'm really sad.

1439
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:15,040
Say one bad thing about his personality.

1440
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:16,040
He wants to kill himself.

1441
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,200
I think he's going to the Netherlands where they have those pods.

1442
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:21,720
You know those pods that, you know, like can end everything and give me some peace?

1443
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:22,720
What are you going to do, Zane?

1444
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:23,720
What are you like?

1445
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:24,720
I'm going to wallow.

1446
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:25,720
This is the one-word universe.

1447
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,200
I'm depressed with him.

1448
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:29,200
I'm here.

1449
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:30,200
He's not F-tear.

1450
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:31,200
That's crazy.

1451
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:34,000
He's such a good boy.

1452
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:35,000
He cares for people.

1453
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:36,000
Oh.

1454
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:37,000
He wants to die.

1455
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:38,000
That's not a good trait of a human.

1456
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:44,400
Warhammer fans will never get over the blood angels glazing allegations.

1457
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,160
That's all there is.

1458
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:48,160
Maybe Ethan.

1459
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:49,160
Ethan.

1460
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:52,840
He deserves date here, to be honest.

1461
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:53,840
It's all a state of mind.

1462
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,560
All I'm saying is Dante's like a thousand years old.

1463
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:57,560
Ulrich is almost eight.

1464
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:58,560
I think he's 800.

1465
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:02,400
Like the difference is Ulrich, they're going, I ain't hear no bell.

1466
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,520
And Dante's like, please ring the bell.

1467
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:05,520
Please ring the bell.

1468
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:06,520
Ulrich's raising her own.

1469
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:07,520
It's 200 years.

1470
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,480
He is, but he's not going out without a fight.

1471
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,320
Dante's 1500 years old.

1472
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:12,320
He's 1500.

1473
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:13,320
He's always old.

1474
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,840
You're going to want to go on your honeymoon with him.

1475
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:20,720
And instead of taking a plane across the Atlantic Ocean, he's going to want to take a canoe

1476
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:21,720
just in case.

1477
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:23,080
So he might die on the way there.

1478
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,560
Really open for a tidal wave to kill him.

1479
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:33,240
Dante never says like, he keeps it in and he's never, he's never let's people show it.

1480
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,280
Only person who's ever guessed that he's ready to go is Mephisto.

1481
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:37,600
That's another red flag.

1482
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:38,600
That's another red flag.

1483
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:42,880
But when he's with you, he'll make sure you had a good time.

1484
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:43,880
What's that Explorer guy?

1485
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:45,440
He's just like, I may be gone for a while.

1486
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:46,800
And he goes out into the wilderness.

1487
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:47,800
Like that's Dante.

1488
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:48,800
Like, where's he gone?

1489
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:50,160
Ah, he's gone for a walk.

1490
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:53,160
What in the blizzard?

1491
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:54,160
She's not.

1492
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:55,920
If I can eat it, eat it.

1493
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:56,920
It is D tier.

1494
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,920
I'm gonna, I'm gonna go nuts.

1495
01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:08,120
It hides his emotions from you.

1496
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:15,920
If you put it in D tier, I'm gonna help.

1497
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:16,920
I'm ready to go for a piss.

1498
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:17,920
Go for it.

1499
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:18,920
I'll let Hal take the reins here.

1500
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:19,920
Perfect time.

1501
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:20,920
This guy's a B tier.

1502
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,200
He can't be S tier, surely.

1503
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:27,480
The edgiest guy who's literally covered in red isn't a red flag.

1504
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,080
Oh, I forgot about that part.

1505
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:30,080
Yeah.

1506
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:31,080
I was thinking more of like...

1507
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:32,080
Hotel Transylvania fucking guy.

1508
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:33,080
What's going on?

1509
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:34,080
I was more like, ah, I am the fiston.

1510
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:35,080
Embodiment of death.

1511
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:36,080
He might be a red flag.

1512
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:50,080
He doesn't, like, he can't be worse than anyone else in A tier though.

1513
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:53,400
Like, he doesn't kill people for fun.

1514
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,080
He's just a bit creepy.

1515
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:59,040
Didn't Siemch basically just say they're like, oh, we did this as like an experiment

1516
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,160
to see if we could corrupt the blood angels from within.

1517
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:02,600
So we gave you all these powers.

1518
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,600
So like, kind of a bad thing.

1519
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:06,600
No, Siemch...

1520
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:11,680
Oh, Siemch lies anyway.

1521
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:13,160
I think maybe bottom of A.

1522
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:14,560
Is that what he does after?

1523
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:15,800
That's fine with me.

1524
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:17,680
I couldn't imagine S tier.

1525
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,760
Like, he's slightly like Fulgrim.

1526
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:24,800
It would be like, it would be expected if something bad went wrong with Mephissin.

1527
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:26,440
I would be caught by surprise.

1528
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,480
And then, but then I knew something was gonna happen.

1529
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:29,480
This hard is in the right place.

1530
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:33,280
He even adopted a wrath on the ready and he was just like, I'm gonna teach you how to

1531
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,280
not die because I think you're pretty cool.

1532
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,080
He's like, cool.

1533
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:38,800
He's nice to people as well.

1534
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:39,800
He actually is.

1535
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,280
People were just like, when you're around him, you literally feel like you want to throw

1536
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:45,480
up because he's hot topic, the person.

1537
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:49,200
He's like that office meme of just like you tell you go, Jesus, like that.

1538
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,920
It's like, just walked up and scares you.

1539
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,120
How does creamed it?

1540
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,640
Oh, Ferris Manus.

1541
01:05:56,640 --> 01:06:02,920
Yeah, he's better than Fulgrim.

1542
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:03,920
Surely.

1543
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:05,480
He's better than Fulgrim.

1544
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:08,120
Okay, I get he's he's better than Fulgrim now.

1545
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,240
Fulgrim was better than him for half of his other life.

1546
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:17,240
So I think I think he's overall saying he kind of damped his entire chapter to like

1547
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:19,920
eternal body dysmorphia of like, I need to cut this off.

1548
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:20,920
I need to cut this off.

1549
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:22,320
I need more spatulas.

1550
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:27,240
Like what's going on, Mr. Inspector Gadget looking space marines?

1551
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,440
Colin, do you want to weigh in Ferris Manus?

1552
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,440
Red flags.

1553
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:34,080
He's not a walking red flag.

1554
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:35,680
That's like the best worst thing.

1555
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:37,000
That's that at all.

1556
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:38,000
Come on.

1557
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:39,000
He can be above.

1558
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:40,000
He doesn't have to be worse.

1559
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:43,320
The first thing he's going to say to you is what's your bench PR.

1560
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,360
And if it's not a high enough number, you're done in his eyes.

1561
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:47,360
That's it.

1562
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:48,360
He's like nicer.

1563
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:49,360
He's like nicer per travel.

1564
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:50,360
I don't know.

1565
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:51,360
I think travel isn't beats here.

1566
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:54,480
I feel like he's the same as you know, I'm pretty sure I wasn't pretty sure I wasn't

1567
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:55,480
beat here.

1568
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:56,480
Ferris Manage.

1569
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:57,480
He's got to be.

1570
01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:58,480
Yeah, beat here.

1571
01:06:58,480 --> 01:06:59,480
It can't be worse than the lion.

1572
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:02,320
The lion will backhand your head off.

1573
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:03,320
The lie.

1574
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:07,360
I don't think the line is quite as angry and crazy as Ferris.

1575
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,320
I think Ferris is more violent.

1576
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:15,200
I don't know if Ferris Manus.

1577
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:16,200
Yeah, that's the other thing.

1578
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:21,000
He says all I'm saying Ferris probably backhanded dozens of his children.

1579
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:22,560
He just did it behind closed doors.

1580
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:28,680
There's even the bit where his champion, I think it's Foth fights Sigismund in a duel

1581
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:29,920
in his book.

1582
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:33,320
And there's a bit where he loses and he's just like, you're coming with me.

1583
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:35,560
And we never hear about the guy again.

1584
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:40,240
I'm just saying maybe that was the last day he served the chapter.

1585
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:43,640
I'm just saying maybe he became a servitor.

1586
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:44,640
What happened?

1587
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:46,240
You didn't have the augmatic hand last I saw you.

1588
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:47,720
I fell down some stairs.

1589
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:54,840
In his favour, slightly redeeming factor, he gets on well before the whole the draw.

1590
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:59,360
He actually has like the best friendship with Fulgrim to the point in which Pertorabo says

1591
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:00,360
I don't get it.

1592
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:04,480
And he literally laughs at Pertorabo saying this dude doesn't have friends.

1593
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,720
He was nice to he was nice to Fulgrim.

1594
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,280
I don't know if he was really nice to anybody else though.

1595
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:13,840
Well, he liked him as well.

1596
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:15,120
Or Gilman liked him.

1597
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:17,120
And then Ferris kind of went.

1598
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:23,200
Gilman respected his like martial skill and his abilities as a general not that they were

1599
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:24,200
friends.

1600
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:33,040
He said he missed Ferris the most.

1601
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:36,520
Yeah he really wanted to be his friend but Ferris is just there like that Homelander

1602
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:38,680
meme he just be he look at Gilman just go.

1603
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:40,520
That's how he treated Gilman.

1604
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:43,480
Then I will rephrase my sentence.

1605
01:08:43,480 --> 01:08:45,120
Bro refused to be friends with Gilman.

1606
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:46,120
Come on now.

1607
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:50,080
He didn't want to do paperwork at all.

1608
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:54,040
The dude doesn't want to be a monster.

1609
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:58,000
Wow what a what a crime.

1610
01:08:58,000 --> 01:08:59,000
Come on how is.

1611
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:00,000
Let's keep it going.

1612
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:01,000
I think BTU is fit.

1613
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:04,000
You know how you're away with Dante.

1614
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:05,000
All right.

1615
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:06,000
All right.

1616
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:07,000
Worse.

1617
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,520
I'll just start next to you shortly.

1618
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:18,240
I'm just saying if you're if you're like nickname is the maimed red flag.

1619
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:20,400
This is the this is the red talents guy right.

1620
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:21,400
That's who he is.

1621
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:22,400
Yeah.

1622
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:23,880
This guy kills his own men does he not.

1623
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:24,880
Yeah.

1624
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:25,880
Yeah.

1625
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:26,880
He's surely as to you.

1626
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:27,880
Yeah.

1627
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:32,640
I mean I still think Jeffrey Dahmer the space the more I look at this the Emperor should

1628
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:34,800
be freaking S tier at this point.

1629
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,400
Come on.

1630
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:41,320
Is the Emperor really better than the guy because the ones above us more sadistic.

1631
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:42,320
Okay.

1632
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:45,040
Well this is what I'm up there.

1633
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:46,040
Come on.

1634
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:49,000
Put him in a tier because he had a tiny moment in his life where he would have been a great

1635
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:50,000
a great.

1636
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:51,000
Yeah.

1637
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,200
But otherwise it just didn't last that long.

1638
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,720
Those in the pod and he could have been a great kid.

1639
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:57,200
But then he did.

1640
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:58,200
Yeah.

1641
01:09:58,200 --> 01:09:59,200
But Ingram was nice.

1642
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:04,080
That was nice basically until he was like a cool guy and then he nails in brain.

1643
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:05,080
Yeah.

1644
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:06,080
Yeah.

1645
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,600
One moment.

1646
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:12,120
If you put nails in everyone else's brain I'm sure they'd act up a lot as well.

1647
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:13,120
Yeah it's not great.

1648
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:14,120
Yeah.

1649
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:15,880
Like like hers never had a good time in his life.

1650
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:17,800
Neither did most of the S tier guys.

1651
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:21,520
So like I think Ingram deserves a.

1652
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:24,280
That's fair.

1653
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:27,880
The betray the betrayer the betrayer.

1654
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:28,880
Yeah.

1655
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:34,440
Why do we need to say more than just his name.

1656
01:10:34,440 --> 01:10:35,440
Yeah.

1657
01:10:35,440 --> 01:10:39,160
You know and you know the origin of that right.

1658
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:40,160
Yeah.

1659
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:41,160
Yeah.

1660
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:42,160
Scalops.

1661
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:43,160
Oh yeah.

1662
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:44,160
It's freezing out there.

1663
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:45,160
You're going to go out there.

1664
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:46,160
You're going to kill the Emperor's children.

1665
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:47,160
It's too cold.

1666
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:48,160
Who wants to die.

1667
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:53,560
Let me warm you up assholes.

1668
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:56,200
You'll stay warm if you're covered in warm blood.

1669
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:57,200
That's how you do it.

1670
01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:59,600
He's real but also a red flag.

1671
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:01,240
I mean his name.

1672
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:02,240
His name.

1673
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:03,240
Yeah.

1674
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:10,040
If we're going by the same standards though he was an OK guy before the nails as well.

1675
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:11,840
Lucius was worse.

1676
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:12,840
Yeah.

1677
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:14,680
Lucy kind of always a jerk.

1678
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:19,680
Look I'm just saying as a red flag it's I know it's so simple just that his name the

1679
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:24,080
surface level if your nickname is the betrayer.

1680
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:26,080
John the betrayer.

1681
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:31,280
And that's post-heresy as well as like you went through all the heresy and then you got

1682
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,480
called the betrayer.

1683
01:11:33,480 --> 01:11:34,480
Betrayer of friendship.

1684
01:11:34,480 --> 01:11:35,480
That's a liar.

1685
01:11:35,480 --> 01:11:36,480
Scoundrel.

1686
01:11:36,480 --> 01:11:40,280
Khan always aiming for the high school.

1687
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,280
Jake the super big dickhead.

1688
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:46,000
I think we have like two more donations.

1689
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:47,000
That's all right.

1690
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:48,000
I think you have two more.

1691
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:49,000
Don't come in here.

1692
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:50,000
We need a howl tip.

1693
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:51,000
Between A and ass.

1694
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:52,000
Between the ass.

1695
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:53,000
Good God.

1696
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:54,000
You're so quick with it too.

1697
01:11:54,000 --> 01:12:06,440
3 5 8 7 2 bucks.

1698
01:12:06,440 --> 01:12:07,440
Ferris has no head.

1699
01:12:07,440 --> 01:12:08,680
What is a bigger red flag?

1700
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:09,680
Yeah no head game.

1701
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:10,680
Truly.

1702
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:17,080
You can turn him into a bong though.

1703
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:21,080
Errod Vaughan the Riven Hound also killed his own men but because they weren't doing

1704
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:22,960
what he was telling them.

1705
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:24,360
He was the black dog.

1706
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:27,860
He was a black shield.

1707
01:12:27,860 --> 01:12:29,560
Very angry.

1708
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:30,560
Very angry.

1709
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:32,720
Really nice 30k model by the way.

1710
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,520
Lots of Khan conversions from that model.

1711
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:36,520
Really good.

1712
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:39,920
Have you seen the new Raven Guard guy the crow?

1713
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:41,160
He's got a new one the last few days.

1714
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:42,160
That looks good.

1715
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:44,840
But yes this guy he killed his own men.

1716
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:46,720
They were all traitor marines who were loyal-ish.

1717
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:51,640
There was one point they tried to mutiny and he was like smashing face.

1718
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:53,120
He's dead.

1719
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:54,120
Dead.

1720
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:55,120
Dead.

1721
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:56,120
Anyone else?

1722
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:57,120
And then they went.

1723
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,800
And that's kind of how he commanded people.

1724
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:01,160
Not a good guy.

1725
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:02,640
And when asked why are you fighting?

1726
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:04,440
I just really am angry.

1727
01:13:04,440 --> 01:13:05,440
I am.

1728
01:13:05,440 --> 01:13:07,160
I want to kill Horus.

1729
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:08,160
Fair enough.

1730
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:15,640
Is he just is he but yeah surely what is Pilgrim worse?

1731
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:19,600
If our red talon friend in the is an S tier I feel like this fella should probably be

1732
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:21,520
around the same place that he is.

1733
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:26,280
That's a good point I think because Pertorabba kind of did the same thing kill his own men

1734
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:29,120
but then it was for a reason.

1735
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:34,000
And to be fair when they asked I think when Malkador asked him like do your men's lives

1736
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:37,560
mean nothing is like they don't mean anything if we can kill Horus I'll kill them all if

1737
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:38,560
we kill Horus.

1738
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:39,560
Fair enough.

1739
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:40,560
So basically the Emperor.

1740
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:43,400
Who should be an S tier?

1741
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,040
I think between Pertorabba and Ferris surely.

1742
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:48,440
That's a good spot.

1743
01:13:48,440 --> 01:13:49,440
S tier is too much.

1744
01:13:49,440 --> 01:13:54,160
And he was also probably a Thunder Warrior so he's also probably a lot of atrocities back

1745
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:55,160
then.

1746
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:58,160
He's a big boy.

1747
01:13:58,160 --> 01:13:59,160
He's a big boy.

1748
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:00,160
Giliman.

1749
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:01,160
I knew that was coming.

1750
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:03,160
I don't think any Primarch should be an F tier.

1751
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:04,160
None of them should.

1752
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:05,160
Pertorabba is a good boy.

1753
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:18,240
I would say like Giliman has there's not right what do I think of him having it what's his

1754
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:19,240
red flag?

1755
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:22,280
He's gonna be with work.

1756
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:24,440
He's gonna be working 9am to 9pm.

1757
01:14:24,440 --> 01:14:25,440
Oh god.

1758
01:14:25,440 --> 01:14:28,840
I'll forbid how many of us have done that before.

1759
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:31,560
He's gonna do it every day.

1760
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:34,920
He's married to his job before anything else.

1761
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:36,880
The job is saving the entire existence.

1762
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:38,560
It's still a red flag.

1763
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:40,160
It's still a red flag.

1764
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,600
He cares about his red flag.

1765
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:43,920
Spend more time with me honey.

1766
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:48,120
Oh no we lost half the Emperor.

1767
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:51,920
What is your relationship like Hal?

1768
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:56,760
Also, Gaffer Collin.

1769
01:14:56,760 --> 01:15:00,080
Eli put it best.

1770
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:01,080
Holy shit.

1771
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:03,440
What's going on over there man?

1772
01:15:03,440 --> 01:15:07,040
All I'd like to add is he also has a good relationship with his mom and dad and his

1773
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:09,040
adoptive dad.

1774
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:13,560
From what I've gotten from Hal so far is that hiding your emotions from your significant

1775
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:23,080
other and being a workaholic is top tier relationship advice.

1776
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:31,280
Hal's never seen a woman.

1777
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:37,680
I couldn't ask Gilliman because he would literally tell me like would you want to spend

1778
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:38,680
more time?

1779
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:42,680
Yes I'd love to spend more time with you Mr. Gilliman and then he would like I can do

1780
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:48,080
but this is the consequence of doing that and that's too high stakes honestly.

1781
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:50,120
You shouldn't date him.

1782
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:51,120
That's a red flag.

1783
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:52,120
You shouldn't date him.

1784
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:56,480
Yeah it's one red flag though.

1785
01:15:56,480 --> 01:15:57,480
He was a good son.

1786
01:15:57,480 --> 01:15:59,060
He was a really good dad.

1787
01:15:59,060 --> 01:16:02,480
Every time he interacts with his kids he's not batting their heads off like the lion.

1788
01:16:02,480 --> 01:16:04,920
He's not killing one out of ten like Pertorado.

1789
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:06,420
He's like do you want a laurel of victory?

1790
01:16:06,420 --> 01:16:07,840
You deserve a laurel of victory.

1791
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:08,840
You're a good boy.

1792
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:10,200
You're a good boy.

1793
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:16,240
Or even like a bit of a scallywag like Aeonid Thea like have you been in my armory?

1794
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:17,240
Oh you.

1795
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:18,860
Don't do it again.

1796
01:16:18,860 --> 01:16:19,920
But you were a good boy.

1797
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:20,920
You were a good boy.

1798
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:21,920
Worked under pressure.

1799
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:22,920
Good boy.

1800
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:24,240
Shall I make another empire?

1801
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:25,240
Why not?

1802
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:26,240
I'm Gilliman.

1803
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:27,240
He's pretty green flags.

1804
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:28,240
He's funny as well.

1805
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:29,240
He's a nice guy.

1806
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:32,240
E tier is a nice person.

1807
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:33,240
E tier.

1808
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:35,400
Like very good place to be.

1809
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:41,320
No I agree I was like he's only got one red flag really compared to so many green flags

1810
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:43,840
that I just like I'm seeing it as like a whole something.

1811
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:45,560
I'm like he's a bundle of green flags.

1812
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:48,200
Yeah but the red flag is you're going to see him once a week.

1813
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:49,200
Yeah it's pretty.

1814
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:50,200
It would not be a good relationship.

1815
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:53,760
It would not be a good relationship.

1816
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:57,680
Or the other thing to mention when he's like in the vacuum of space like pummeling word

1817
01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:01,480
bearers like you get him angry.

1818
01:17:01,480 --> 01:17:02,480
It's not going to go well.

1819
01:17:02,480 --> 01:17:05,800
It's a high breaking point but if you reach it oh boy.

1820
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,720
Yeah and you're never going to beat this guy in an argument ever.

1821
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:12,920
No okay maybe lower him down a little bit more.

1822
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:18,320
Can you imagine how annoying hearing the words theoretical and practical would get after

1823
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:19,800
being with this guy for a decade.

1824
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,760
Although you're wrong about everything in your life.

1825
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:26,280
Every single date you're going out to he's going to bring up the spreadsheet and say

1826
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:29,800
theoretical you want x food practical we go to this place.

1827
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:34,320
Although to be fair sparring partners Lord Sola Leontas did quite good.

1828
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:39,160
He's just like actually mate you're not mortal you're missing like variables you don't understand

1829
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,640
what it's like to be like a regular guy.

1830
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:43,600
Actually I disagree and he's like oh okay.

1831
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:50,760
I mean he could be charming with it though like theoretical he want to spread them cheeks

1832
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:53,640
practical grabs your hand.

1833
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:58,840
This is your entire life of here all the time.

1834
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:01,200
It will get it will get old.

1835
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:05,240
Yeah I know I'm just I'm too strong for Gilliman honestly.

1836
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:08,240
I think Winnie's the speedy here bro this is this is crazy.

1837
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:10,200
Yeah I'm looking at it too.

1838
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:12,200
No he's staying there.

1839
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:16,160
F tier F tier F tier F tier F tier.

1840
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:17,160
Oh damn you guys.

1841
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:18,160
He's flawless he's flawless.

1842
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:19,160
There's nothing wrong with him.

1843
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:20,160
I'm the one who's delusional.

1844
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:23,160
Brief me brief me why.

1845
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:27,160
Let's go and get the picture of Marnie's Calgar shitting.

1846
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:30,840
I'm afraid yeah I got no work on it.

1847
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:33,960
God yeah but he's Marnie's Calgar.

1848
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,520
Listen Hal how many Marvel comics do you have about yourself?

1849
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:41,600
You know if he was put in if he was put in a relationship he's a Matt Ward character

1850
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:46,480
he's gonna be the best husband ever created.

1851
01:18:46,480 --> 01:18:47,480
The delusion.

1852
01:18:47,480 --> 01:18:50,480
I didn't see the truth.

1853
01:18:50,480 --> 01:18:54,800
I just realized one red flag with Sanguineous he's always gonna be like he's always too

1854
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:57,000
good for you.

1855
01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:58,000
He's just way too good for you.

1856
01:18:58,000 --> 01:18:59,720
You would be feeling inadequate.

1857
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:03,480
Yeah he's like he's pricier than any woman you've ever met as well.

1858
01:19:03,480 --> 01:19:10,880
Oh man I can't believe Calgar is like that.

1859
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:13,600
F tier F tier F tier F tier.

1860
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:15,960
It is I Cato Sicarius.

1861
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:18,480
Another flawless character another flawless win.

1862
01:19:18,480 --> 01:19:21,680
Can we put him in F tier for a foot through towel woman.

1863
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:25,240
I was gonna say Eli you're gonna permit the stomping on...

1864
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:27,240
It's a good seed.

1865
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:32,360
I love how with those like serious concerns.

1866
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:35,960
His plot armor is so strong he cannot go above F tier.

1867
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:40,160
Serious mature concern about the Gilliman comments but then as soon as Cato Sicarius

1868
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:43,080
comes up.

1869
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:47,840
This guy flies jump pack straight forwards into fusion blasters and pulse rifles and

1870
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:53,440
he's unscathed he one shots monoliths he walks up to it and puts a melta bomb on it because

1871
01:19:53,440 --> 01:19:55,440
he's Cato Sicarius.

1872
01:19:55,440 --> 01:19:56,440
He vortexes.

1873
01:19:56,440 --> 01:19:57,440
He vortexes.

1874
01:19:57,440 --> 01:19:59,360
He vortexes when he needs a katana as well.

1875
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:00,960
Let's not forget he vortexes when he needs a katana.

1876
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:01,960
He cannot lose.

1877
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:02,960
He has to be F tier.

1878
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:03,960
Oh my god.

1879
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:04,960
I want a cereal with him.

1880
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:10,280
It's the law of nature for him to win so surely he must win this.

1881
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:14,800
Introducing Cato Crunch, the new cereal from Cato Sicarius.

1882
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:16,960
And they're all like skull shaped, it's like crunch.

1883
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:17,960
Mmm.

1884
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:22,080
He murders civilians bro, what are we talking about?

1885
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:24,680
But in a fun way, in a quirky fun way.

1886
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:26,480
He's curious, he can't be wrong.

1887
01:20:26,480 --> 01:20:27,480
Yeah.

1888
01:20:27,480 --> 01:20:28,480
Doesn't count if there's xenon.

1889
01:20:28,480 --> 01:20:29,480
How is he doing failing armour?

1890
01:20:29,480 --> 01:20:30,480
This is nuts.

1891
01:20:30,480 --> 01:20:31,480
This is actually nuts.

1892
01:20:31,480 --> 01:20:34,480
Just let the plot armour exist bro.

1893
01:20:34,480 --> 01:20:36,480
Oh my god.

1894
01:20:36,480 --> 01:20:40,080
Uriel Ventress is that?

1895
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:43,000
Uriel Ventress.

1896
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:47,840
I mean he's just too much of a good boy in terms of like, I don't think he's actually

1897
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:49,400
interesting to talk to.

1898
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:52,360
But he's a good guy.

1899
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:53,360
I'm silly.

1900
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:54,360
Silly Billy.

1901
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:55,360
He's not got red flags though.

1902
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:59,320
There's green on his armour, I don't like it.

1903
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:04,160
I know it's a literal green flag but bad, no green.

1904
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:05,760
He's technically nicer than...

1905
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:06,760
He hates grass.

1906
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:07,760
Cato.

1907
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:08,760
Oh god.

1908
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:11,800
No I like grass, I don't like green on the Ultramarine, it's icky.

1909
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:13,960
I don't know anything about Ventress really.

1910
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:15,960
Well he's super nice.

1911
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:19,800
Green flag, he did destroy the Democulaba.

1912
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:21,360
Does he in space mean like cried?

1913
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:22,360
After being in it.

1914
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:27,200
I think he actually cried for like other humans and I think he's the only space...

1915
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:31,760
For the weird flesh goop people, I don't remember the name.

1916
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:35,120
The un-fleshed, he had to kill the lord of the un-fleshed and he's like, did you die

1917
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:37,000
serve the emperor well?

1918
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:40,240
And he's like got the bolt pissed at the back of his head and he's like, yeah you did.

1919
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:42,440
It's a real Lenny Lenny moment isn't it?

1920
01:21:42,440 --> 01:21:46,080
I think of the big of the mice flesh monster man.

1921
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:47,080
Yeah.

1922
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:53,320
He's thinking of the pet in the mind, pet in the things, pet in the rabbits.

1923
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:54,320
Who's next?

1924
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:55,320
We can't leave him there.

1925
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:57,480
Put him wherever you want, I'm indifferent.

1926
01:21:57,480 --> 01:22:01,560
He's slightly nice, he's nicer than Giliman.

1927
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:02,560
It's nicer than Cato.

1928
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:05,400
He doesn't curb something the time he talks to them.

1929
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:08,400
Cato can't lose.

1930
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:12,640
If Cato Sakari has killed someone, they inherently deserve him.

1931
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:13,640
Okay.

1932
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:16,640
I should hear a knuckle in Colin's door.

1933
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:18,680
Cato Sakari is going to be there.

1934
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:19,680
Lieutenant Titus.

1935
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:20,680
Oh, he's being tiered.

1936
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:23,680
He might be tainted by chaos.

1937
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:31,040
No, he's not tainted by chaos, he has no communication skills.

1938
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:34,160
He's going to plan your entire wedding and it's going to be the most stressful time of

1939
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:37,040
your life because he's not going to tell you anything.

1940
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:40,440
And then finally the day happens and you're wondering what happens and he tells you everything

1941
01:22:40,440 --> 01:22:44,440
in the last five minutes and oh, it all makes sense now.

1942
01:22:44,440 --> 01:22:46,040
He has won't tell youism.

1943
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:48,640
He's not worse than hellbred.

1944
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:53,680
Leandrus refused to ask him any questions and then when he got to actual people that

1945
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:57,680
would routinely ask him, hey man, explain yourself, let's hear you out.

1946
01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:00,720
We're willing to hear you out, what do you got?

1947
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:05,280
Just imagining the wedding.

1948
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:08,920
He's still emotionally not there.

1949
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:10,720
He's never going to open up to you.

1950
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:18,240
I was saying this video creator wanted, surely.

1951
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:23,840
Put him higher in seat here, there's problems.

1952
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:26,000
More than batting off your son's head.

1953
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:27,960
It's not my kid.

1954
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:33,200
He might be like, he's not the most emotionally available, but like when you're having a tough

1955
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:36,560
day he'll put his hand on your shoulder.

1956
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:40,120
And that's it.

1957
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:42,120
And then he'll stare at you until you feel better.

1958
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:45,040
I don't know what you're thinking, but like, I don't think anyone else really on this

1959
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:47,040
list would do more than that.

1960
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:51,640
He's an ultramarine so he automatically is somewhat okay.

1961
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:53,640
You two are nuts.

1962
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:57,040
That's because Russ is already handing you a beer to make you feel better.

1963
01:23:57,040 --> 01:24:01,320
Yeah, Russ will give you a stein of beer and the car will give you some milk.

1964
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:03,400
Mortarian and Estier right away.

1965
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:10,720
Was he ever a nice guy?

1966
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:15,240
He had a joke he sighed when he was on Bob because he tried to do the right thing at

1967
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:18,840
first and then he's just like, yeah, I'm a Mortarian.

1968
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:22,560
He's incredibly bitter about existence.

1969
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:27,800
And you know, the parents who have kids that control them, that's an issue.

1970
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:30,080
And Mortarian has that issue for sure.

1971
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:33,360
That's how he turned into a demon primarch.

1972
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:36,720
All right, look, this is the most surface level thing.

1973
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:38,160
I don't care.

1974
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:43,080
If I cannot be by you without gagging, it's not gonna work out.

1975
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:44,080
It's not gonna work out.

1976
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:47,640
If you triple anytime you're near your partner.

1977
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:54,080
No, it's not tripling because I'm not busting.

1978
01:24:54,080 --> 01:25:00,240
If I look at you and the vomit starts rising out of my stomach, that's it.

1979
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:01,240
It's over.

1980
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:05,000
It's gonna be really hard to get him off the couch.

1981
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:09,520
When I'm around Mortarian I'm not busting.

1982
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:12,040
I'm not.

1983
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:16,400
Was it Orson Welles who said something about like, there's nothing people dislike more

1984
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:17,400
than a man who smells.

1985
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:18,680
Like, doesn't matter if he's a good man.

1986
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:20,720
Doesn't matter if he smells.

1987
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:23,720
This Mortarian will not get a job.

1988
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:26,560
He will lay on the couch for eons.

1989
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:27,560
Get a job.

1990
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:29,160
I did liberation once.

1991
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:30,760
Yeah, that was 20 years ago, mate.

1992
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:31,760
Go get a real job.

1993
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:32,760
Complain about it.

1994
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:33,760
And I had to help.

1995
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:35,080
Hey, the man is sticking it to him.

1996
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:38,080
He doesn't want to serve the man.

1997
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:42,320
Also the guy for a lark.

1998
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:43,320
Sorry.

1999
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:44,320
He what?

2000
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:49,000
I was gonna say for a lark he also drank poison chalices with his sons.

2001
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:51,640
Like, I bet I can drink this and I won't die.

2002
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:52,640
Like, cool down.

2003
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:54,520
That's not good.

2004
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:55,920
Not great.

2005
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:59,600
He's just horrible to be around.

2006
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:01,520
Who's next?

2007
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:05,280
Next is Typhus, the man named after a disease.

2008
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:08,000
I'm gonna put him there.

2009
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:10,080
Yeah, that's awesome.

2010
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:11,960
That's right up there with the betrayer.

2011
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:14,560
Hi, this is friend Typhus.

2012
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:16,440
Also, have you met Cancer?

2013
01:26:16,440 --> 01:26:18,820
Like great.

2014
01:26:18,820 --> 01:26:20,920
And his best friend, venereal disease.

2015
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:22,920
Typhoid Mary looking ass.

2016
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:25,080
He's made of bees.

2017
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:28,040
Also, again, the smell.

2018
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:29,040
Yeah.

2019
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:33,040
Ain't a lot of bugs.

2020
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:36,280
The diarrhea concern for me.

2021
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:43,480
You know some of the brown on his armor is not rust.

2022
01:26:43,480 --> 01:26:47,960
And also he can telepathically like flat pack you while you have to smell his stench, which

2023
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:48,960
is not great.

2024
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:51,120
And he's made of bees.

2025
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:54,120
Which is not good.

2026
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:58,760
I put him eight years.

2027
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:03,260
No, he is pleasant to be around.

2028
01:27:03,260 --> 01:27:04,760
He talks and stuff.

2029
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:06,400
You know, he's smart.

2030
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:07,400
Listen, he wouldn't be.

2031
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:10,240
Magnus is probably an A tier as well.

2032
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:11,840
He only respects Primarchs.

2033
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:14,200
He only respects people who have psychic powers.

2034
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:15,200
He's going to betray you.

2035
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:17,840
He thinks he's a smart being in the room.

2036
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:21,080
And he literally like contradicts himself all the time.

2037
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:25,360
If he leaves, if he left the door unlocked and somebody came into your house and started

2038
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:28,440
to try to kill you, he'd be like, oh, this is all my fault.

2039
01:27:28,440 --> 01:27:29,840
I'm going to let you die now.

2040
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:31,880
And then then they'll shoot you in the head.

2041
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:33,160
And then he'll do something about it.

2042
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:35,520
He thought the entire horrors heresy was about him.

2043
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:36,520
Yeah.

2044
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:40,200
Also, I was even just working on my war band series.

2045
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:41,880
I did the Blades of Magnus.

2046
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:45,680
They were like the guys who guarded the Tower of Prospero, his quarters.

2047
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:49,240
In secret, they tried to like sever his connection to Seanch.

2048
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:50,240
And he found out.

2049
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:55,700
So as repayment, he mind wiped them all and made them like automatons to guard his throne

2050
01:27:55,700 --> 01:27:57,680
room on the planet of sorcerers.

2051
01:27:57,680 --> 01:27:59,960
Like, oh, nice one, Magnus.

2052
01:27:59,960 --> 01:28:04,800
Again proving you're the worst person in the world.

2053
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:07,680
There's one chart of his soul that is good though, correct?

2054
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:09,160
And he's not with us.

2055
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:11,160
And it became a great night, baby.

2056
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:13,320
I think he's A tier.

2057
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:16,520
No, because like he has one.

2058
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:21,280
He hasn't like all his redeeming things are so overshadowed by the fact that he doesn't

2059
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:26,840
actually have any redeeming factors.

2060
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:27,840
Really?

2061
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:28,840
Magnus is not curse.

2062
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:32,600
If nothing else, I'm not going to walk up to Magnus and where'd my skin go?

2063
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:35,200
I think he deserves A tier.

2064
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:36,200
Maybe slightly.

2065
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:37,200
Top of A tier maybe.

2066
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:38,200
But I don't think he's that much worse than Magnus.

2067
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:39,200
I don't think he's that much worse than Magnus.

2068
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:40,200
I don't think he's that much worse than Magnus.

2069
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:41,200
I don't think he's that much worse than Magnus.

2070
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:42,200
I don't think he's that much worse than Magnus.

2071
01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:43,200
I don't think he's that much worse than Magnus.

2072
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:50,280
You were driving a car and then let's just say someone else was driving that car and

2073
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:52,640
they ran into your car.

2074
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:54,560
He's blaming the car manufacturer.

2075
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:55,560
He's blaming the space.

2076
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:56,560
He's still A tier though.

2077
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:57,560
He's still better than Curse.

2078
01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:02,040
I know he's worse than Curse.

2079
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,600
And also the man saw the routes coming.

2080
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:09,280
He knew they were going to slaughter his entire population and he went, nah, let him.

2081
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:14,920
And one of his sons was like, Izzikar's like, bruh, we found out the space wars are coming

2082
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:15,920
to kill us all.

2083
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:17,660
Maybe we should put the shields up.

2084
01:29:17,660 --> 01:29:19,240
And he went, lick my balls.

2085
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:20,520
And just blew him up.

2086
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:21,520
Rorschach style.

2087
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:24,040
Like, dude, you're not making me like you.

2088
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:27,040
He literally ruined all of humanity's future.

2089
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:30,680
Well, it was a shit plan by the Emperor anyways.

2090
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:34,160
And it's just annoying that he couldn't commit to even being like, I'm going to let them

2091
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:35,540
kill us because we're bad.

2092
01:29:35,540 --> 01:29:38,680
And then right at the last minute when he was in genuine danger, he went, actually,

2093
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:41,440
he went to reverse cause like, you're the worst Magnus.

2094
01:29:41,440 --> 01:29:42,440
Blowing up the web.

2095
01:29:42,440 --> 01:29:46,440
Blowing up the web with a net positive for humanity.

2096
01:29:46,440 --> 01:29:47,440
Interesting.

2097
01:29:47,440 --> 01:29:48,440
Interesting.

2098
01:29:48,440 --> 01:29:50,440
Like, I only think.

2099
01:29:50,440 --> 01:29:51,440
Oh yeah.

2100
01:29:51,440 --> 01:29:52,440
Where are we going to move?

2101
01:29:52,440 --> 01:29:53,440
Oh, we're the dark elder.

2102
01:29:53,440 --> 01:29:55,240
Fucking phenomenal planning dog.

2103
01:29:55,240 --> 01:30:00,040
And all I'm going to say in comparison to Curse, at least Curse had the decency to

2104
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:01,040
die.

2105
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:02,040
Magnus didn't.

2106
01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:06,040
I still think he's top of S. He's bottom of S.

2107
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:09,120
He has redeemable powers.

2108
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:10,120
He's worse than Curse.

2109
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:11,120
Oh my God.

2110
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:12,120
You know what?

2111
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:16,120
He's one above the Emperor.

2112
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:17,120
One above the Emperor.

2113
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:18,120
Yeah, I like that.

2114
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:19,120
I like that.

2115
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:20,120
Fine.

2116
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:21,120
I don't agree.

2117
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:22,120
He's not worse than Curse.

2118
01:30:22,120 --> 01:30:23,120
You're just wrong.

2119
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:24,120
Yeah, that is crazy.

2120
01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:27,800
He did everything worse than Curse.

2121
01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:30,960
One of these days we'll get through a tier list without yelling at each other.

2122
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:32,960
Today is not the day.

2123
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:33,960
Aramon.

2124
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:34,960
Aramon.

2125
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:35,960
He's top of A tier.

2126
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:36,960
He's the dark elder.

2127
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:41,560
But he needs to go below Mephiston.

2128
01:30:41,560 --> 01:30:44,320
And you'll hear me on this one.

2129
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:47,200
Being near Aramon, he's kind of pleasant.

2130
01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:49,720
And you actually have a good time with him.

2131
01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:55,080
But you will end up divorced and in the long term you are cursed.

2132
01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:57,760
Being around him is like being in a slow poison.

2133
01:30:57,760 --> 01:31:03,000
Because eventually some big Cthulhu MF will ruin your life.

2134
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:05,960
Because he's just messing with him.

2135
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:07,840
I've also got something I want to throw at you.

2136
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:09,760
He's pretty delusional, right?

2137
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:10,760
I forget.

2138
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:11,880
Yeah, incredibly.

2139
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:15,880
One he thinks he's getting into the black library ever, but we can move on from that.

2140
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:17,840
I think he got in and then he got kicked out.

2141
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:18,840
He got in.

2142
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:19,840
He stole some mats.

2143
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:20,840
He stole some mats.

2144
01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:21,840
He stole mats.

2145
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:22,840
Fair enough.

2146
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:23,840
Fair enough.

2147
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:26,840
I can't knock him because the dude doesn't give up.

2148
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:28,280
He's trying to save people.

2149
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:29,280
He doesn't give up.

2150
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:34,120
He's also willing to glass planets to save like a few hundred people.

2151
01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:37,560
I forget who said it, but there's a line where he's like, hey, he thinks he's totally unchanged

2152
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:38,560
by the warp.

2153
01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:41,480
I've seen the screaming emptiness where his face was.

2154
01:31:41,480 --> 01:31:44,320
He has a massive writhing eyes where his face was.

2155
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:46,120
He's pretty delusional.

2156
01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:50,560
So with that in mind, I think Aramon is also the kind of person who would invest all of

2157
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:52,480
your life savings into a shit coin.

2158
01:31:52,480 --> 01:31:55,400
Because he thinks for real, bro, this is going to take off.

2159
01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:56,400
He's crypto, bro.

2160
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:58,040
It's going to go to the moon, bro.

2161
01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:00,800
It's going to go to the moon.

2162
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:04,280
He's going to read the future, invest in the perfect shit coin, and then a harlequin is

2163
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:07,440
going to yank him around by the ear and ruin it all.

2164
01:32:07,440 --> 01:32:10,640
The thing was, how, with your analogy of him like, oh, we'll go out and we'll have a good

2165
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:11,640
time, but he'll ruin your life.

2166
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:13,280
He wouldn't just ruin your life.

2167
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:16,080
He'd make your family destitute.

2168
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:18,640
He'd make your relatives in fight.

2169
01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:22,160
And also the local orphanage would burn down with all people inside perishing.

2170
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:24,120
That's the Aramon method.

2171
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:28,600
Zeke is permanently messing with this guy.

2172
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:32,920
The orphanage thing is also entirely unrelated, yet somehow wouldn't have happened if he wasn't

2173
01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:33,920
there.

2174
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:38,120
I'm just real sorry for him, honestly.

2175
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:39,120
He tried to fix it.

2176
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:40,720
Yeah, but he caused me one.

2177
01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:41,720
No, no.

2178
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:42,720
Put him below the night, Lord.

2179
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:43,720
Put him below fucking town.

2180
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:44,720
Yeah, I agree with that.

2181
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:45,720
That's Avatar.

2182
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:50,120
He made a hundred thousand of his brothers turn into dust men.

2183
01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:51,120
Yeah, I think that's how it's been.

2184
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:52,120
He's nice.

2185
01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:53,120
He's pleasant.

2186
01:32:53,120 --> 01:32:54,120
I know I'm repeating myself.

2187
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:55,120
Skincape, skincape, skincape.

2188
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:56,120
I'm telling you skin is standard.

2189
01:32:56,120 --> 01:32:57,120
One skincape.

2190
01:32:57,120 --> 01:32:58,120
Aramon genuinely cares about his brother.

2191
01:32:58,120 --> 01:33:08,400
You don't get to have any amount of skincapes more than zero and not have...

2192
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:16,200
All I'm saying is, what's worse, making a skincape out of someone or taking one of your

2193
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:22,040
brothers and telling him that you're going to erase every iota of his being, replace

2194
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:25,040
him with an automaton and he'll serve with him forever, not knowing that your mind's

2195
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:26,040
going to work.

2196
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:27,040
That wasn't the plan though.

2197
01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:28,040
It went wrong.

2198
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:29,040
That's pretty bad.

2199
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:30,040
Pretty bad.

2200
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:32,640
That's because he sucks and his rubric didn't work.

2201
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:34,240
Yeah, this is after.

2202
01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:36,920
He was like, oh, you do as I say.

2203
01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:38,480
And then he's like, oh, you failed me.

2204
01:33:38,480 --> 01:33:42,440
I'm going to wipe your memory intentionally and you're going to serve me forever.

2205
01:33:42,440 --> 01:33:44,640
And you won't even know because you won't have a brain anymore.

2206
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:48,040
No, that's not how I'm going to be with Aramon when.

2207
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:49,040
Skincapes are bad.

2208
01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:50,040
No, no, no.

2209
01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:51,040
This is Sanak.

2210
01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:52,040
Oh, I'm being gaslit.

2211
01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:53,040
Sanak.

2212
01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:54,040
I read those books.

2213
01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:55,040
Do you think anyone's going to gaslit with his arm?

2214
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:56,040
Yeah.

2215
01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:57,040
Oh my gosh.

2216
01:33:57,040 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaking of gaslighting.

2217
01:33:58,040 --> 01:33:59,040
This is only Horus Lupica.

2218
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:00,040
Gaslighting.

2219
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:01,040
He's A or S tier shortly.

2220
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:02,040
I mean, he's technically worse on the emperor.

2221
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:19,080
Put him in A because before, look, I saw Horus Rising, you know, the one book I've read.

2222
01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:22,120
He tried to make peace with the, with the humans who lived with aliens.

2223
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:27,400
That's pretty damn good, especially in 40 K. And then everything went wrong and he heresied

2224
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:30,160
all over the place.

2225
01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:33,160
The shit coin did not go good.

2226
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:36,160
Shit coin went very bad.

2227
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:38,720
Invest in my new crypto scheme.

2228
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:39,720
Horus coin.

2229
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:42,040
With Horus coin, we can destroy the Imperium together.

2230
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:44,040
Oh no, it's crashing.

2231
01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:45,040
Oh no.

2232
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:46,040
Oh, Abaddon.

2233
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:47,040
Abaddon.

2234
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:49,040
Abaddon.

2235
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:50,680
Yeah.

2236
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:57,200
I mean, I don't know what's not, maybe not really, he's kind of like, he's, you know,

2237
01:34:57,200 --> 01:35:00,800
again, like it's a thing of like, he's not been sneaky or anything like, you kind of

2238
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:01,800
know what you're getting with Abaddon.

2239
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:05,080
So I feel like it's less of like a bright red flag.

2240
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:09,440
No, here's, I think he should be right above Horus because he was there through all of

2241
01:35:09,440 --> 01:35:10,440
the heresy.

2242
01:35:10,440 --> 01:35:14,240
He saw how it all went wrong and then went, yeah, but I'm going to be different as the

2243
01:35:14,240 --> 01:35:15,240
War Master.

2244
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:16,600
I can handle a chaos ship.

2245
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:17,600
Okay.

2246
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:23,640
All I'm saying, I know we just had a discussion about flesh capes.

2247
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:28,640
Remember this is the guy who stapled like free blanks to a space marine, then cut out

2248
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:33,080
his eyes, cut out his tongue, stitched them closed and like chained him in the basement

2249
01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:34,760
of the vengeful spirit.

2250
01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:36,240
And he was a psychos at real life.

2251
01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:37,240
He's not a nice guy.

2252
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:38,240
It was the person.

2253
01:35:38,240 --> 01:35:39,240
Oh no.

2254
01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:40,800
Not a nice guy at all.

2255
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:41,800
No.

2256
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:42,800
Very bad.

2257
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:45,200
Although he does enjoy craft brewing, so you know.

2258
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:46,200
He does.

2259
01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:47,760
He does enjoy making a bath.

2260
01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:49,080
He's also a good leader.

2261
01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:51,360
He's a good leader.

2262
01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:54,200
He is, but he's a good leader for the side of hell.

2263
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:55,200
Oh yeah.

2264
01:35:55,200 --> 01:36:02,000
I, you know, I have read like passages where it's like people will go to check out the

2265
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:06,120
black Legion and then just end up signing up on the spot because he's so charismatic,

2266
01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:08,800
but also it's the black Legion.

2267
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:10,480
Yeah, he's evil, but it's not.

2268
01:36:10,480 --> 01:36:13,120
If you let me down, I'm cutting your balls off.

2269
01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:14,120
Like, okay.

2270
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:18,880
I will not fail torture for fun or anything like that.

2271
01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:19,880
Really?

2272
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:20,880
He's just, he's like, he's a conqueror.

2273
01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:24,840
I think after the first blank he stapled, there was some doing it for fun.

2274
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:27,280
I think as the first one, he was having fun.

2275
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:29,080
It was about sending a message.

2276
01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:30,080
Okay.

2277
01:36:30,080 --> 01:36:33,080
He enjoyed the messages.

2278
01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:38,960
Oh, I mean, I mean, you are.

2279
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:39,960
And he sees anything.

2280
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:43,000
You should just go to the same place as Fulgham because he had a great part of his life and

2281
01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:44,000
now he's.

2282
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:45,000
He was never nice.

2283
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:46,000
Oh, come on.

2284
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:47,000
Yes.

2285
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:48,000
He was in prior to becoming a demon.

2286
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:49,000
He was literally right.

2287
01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:50,000
He was not.

2288
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:51,000
He was being correct.

2289
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:56,000
What's his, what's the correct part of it?

2290
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:58,000
The emperor was a God.

2291
01:36:58,000 --> 01:36:59,000
Yes.

2292
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:00,000
The emperor is true.

2293
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:01,000
Oh my God.

2294
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:03,000
The horse has been a fucking disaster.

2295
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:11,000
In the horror of the emperor is not a God.

2296
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:12,000
Yes, he is.

2297
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:13,000
I do not.

2298
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:16,000
He is a guy that's the whole dude.

2299
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:17,840
Where's the Garfield image?

2300
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:18,840
You are not immune to propaganda.

2301
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:19,840
Okay.

2302
01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:20,840
Like this is the fight.

2303
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:21,840
What makes it?

2304
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:22,840
Yeah.

2305
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:25,160
What makes what makes the emperor of God?

2306
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:26,160
He's all power.

2307
01:37:26,160 --> 01:37:27,160
Andy and then the army.

2308
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:30,160
And he has something to say.

2309
01:37:30,160 --> 01:37:31,160
All right.

2310
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:35,160
Or the only thing I want to bring to the table is nothing to do with that.

2311
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:40,800
I just wanted to mention, bear in mind, this is the guy who led to Erebus.

2312
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:43,560
Okay, yeah.

2313
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:47,080
Fulgur is the guy who led to Lucius and Agar is the guy who led to.

2314
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:48,080
And look where he is.

2315
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:49,080
Everyone has bad kids.

2316
01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:50,080
Everyone has bad kids.

2317
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:52,560
But I'm just, this is the worst kid.

2318
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:53,560
Put Lorgar in A tier.

2319
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:55,040
No, that is not the worst kid.

2320
01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:57,400
I'm looking at Curse and Notarian right now.

2321
01:37:57,400 --> 01:37:59,920
Erebus is the worst kid.

2322
01:37:59,920 --> 01:38:01,920
Where are we at currently with Lorgar?

2323
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:06,280
Lorgar was right in Calphe's self-defense.

2324
01:38:06,280 --> 01:38:11,760
The last time you see Lorgar in the Horus Heresy, he's on a primitive planet torturing

2325
01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:14,200
people and he's like, this is amazing.

2326
01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:18,040
He literally describes like, this is the most perfect.

2327
01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:22,480
He wasn't always that bad.

2328
01:38:22,480 --> 01:38:29,520
What was really, it even proves in the point in which like when he gets shamed at Monarchia,

2329
01:38:29,520 --> 01:38:36,000
like there's something deeply fragile underneath him, which is like, he really like, the only

2330
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:37,000
reason he worshiped.

2331
01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:38,000
His vulnerability.

2332
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:42,480
He lived his states word for word.

2333
01:38:42,480 --> 01:38:46,000
He did it because it made him feel special.

2334
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:47,960
Not because he thought it was the truth.

2335
01:38:47,960 --> 01:38:52,400
He did it because he literally had such a massive amount of insecurity in him and he

2336
01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:55,640
was willing to annihilate planets.

2337
01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:57,240
This is what are we talking about?

2338
01:38:57,240 --> 01:39:02,920
Plus he had a tendency with like, the guy also had a flair for like every victory I

2339
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:05,160
make in the Great Crusade has to have theatrics.

2340
01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:08,480
So he was like, this one we have to win in this way and this one we have to win in this

2341
01:39:08,480 --> 01:39:09,480
way.

2342
01:39:09,480 --> 01:39:12,560
Gilam is just like, one there, one there, one there, one there, one there.

2343
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:18,000
He's just like, we're going to do only orbital bombardments to make it thematic and then

2344
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:20,000
this one we're going to only do siege warfare.

2345
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:22,680
He's like, Lorgar, could you just kind of get the job done?

2346
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:24,800
He's like, no, no, no, no, I've got to do it this way.

2347
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:25,800
Like, yeah.

2348
01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:26,800
And even if they're all tail-shawn.

2349
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:32,680
Just send him to therapy and he might get better over time.

2350
01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:33,680
Even if they're on tail-shawn.

2351
01:39:33,680 --> 01:39:34,680
Send the Primarch to therapy.

2352
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:36,640
You don't have to worship them.

2353
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:38,640
You don't have to make the skin capes.

2354
01:39:38,640 --> 01:39:41,400
You don't have to do that.

2355
01:39:41,400 --> 01:39:45,960
Even if the skin tape makes a little ripple in the pond.

2356
01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:46,960
He's been done so dirty.

2357
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:47,960
He's been done so dirty.

2358
01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:48,960
My god, but he's a nut.

2359
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:49,960
Is that Erebus?

2360
01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:50,960
That's Erebus.

2361
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:51,960
F!

2362
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:52,960
Yes!

2363
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:53,960
No.

2364
01:39:53,960 --> 01:39:54,960
He's a goat.

2365
01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:55,960
He's a goat.

2366
01:39:55,960 --> 01:39:56,960
Need we say more?

2367
01:39:56,960 --> 01:39:57,960
Fine.

2368
01:39:57,960 --> 01:39:58,960
I mean, he's worse than Curse.

2369
01:39:58,960 --> 01:39:59,960
I don't know, but.

2370
01:39:59,960 --> 01:40:00,960
I think he's worse than Curse.

2371
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:01,960
Because, well, he's a goat.

2372
01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:04,960
No, he's not!

2373
01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:09,960
The entire Horus Heresy.

2374
01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:15,960
He's like, oh, I want you to be like, he faked his way into the Space Marines.

2375
01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:16,960
Oh, I'm just a logger.

2376
01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:17,960
I'm just some guy.

2377
01:40:17,960 --> 01:40:18,960
He's a manipulator.

2378
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:19,960
A spy.

2379
01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:24,000
There's no method to the madness with Curse.

2380
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:25,880
He's still just a parallel of the Emperor.

2381
01:40:25,880 --> 01:40:26,880
The Emperor should be best here.

2382
01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:27,880
Oh my gosh.

2383
01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:28,880
I think Curse is worse.

2384
01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:32,880
He ends just by the means for this guy, just like the Emperor.

2385
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:39,080
Erebus is S-tier, but I'm saying Curse is worse because it's just like there's no end

2386
01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:40,080
goal to it.

2387
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:42,520
It's just, there is an end goal!

2388
01:40:42,520 --> 01:40:45,360
It's a really messed up end goal, but he very much is an end goal.

2389
01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:47,280
Even by the end of it, he doesn't know.

2390
01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:48,280
He's actually mad.

2391
01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:52,160
Like, even his promo book is actually mad.

2392
01:40:52,160 --> 01:40:57,680
His reign of terror ended like within like a few hundred years.

2393
01:40:57,680 --> 01:41:00,840
This guy still going on 10,000 years later.

2394
01:41:00,840 --> 01:41:01,840
That's a lot more misery.

2395
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:02,840
I'm just saying.

2396
01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:09,480
I know, I'm saying he's top of S, but Curse for me is like, I would rather be locked in

2397
01:41:09,480 --> 01:41:12,160
a room with Erebus than Curse.

2398
01:41:12,160 --> 01:41:13,160
Yeah.

2399
01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:14,160
Why?

2400
01:41:14,160 --> 01:41:18,740
Because like, if I'm with Erebus, I could talk to him and like, I know it's like horrible

2401
01:41:18,740 --> 01:41:19,740
may happen.

2402
01:41:19,740 --> 01:41:20,740
You know what it would be?

2403
01:41:20,740 --> 01:41:21,740
You know what it would be Hal?

2404
01:41:21,740 --> 01:41:26,840
If you were locked in a room with Erebus and Curse, if you go in that room, you know Curse

2405
01:41:26,840 --> 01:41:28,640
is going to like skin you.

2406
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:30,720
But you know what would be the problem?

2407
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:34,200
Erebus would talk you into skilling, skinning yourself.

2408
01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:35,200
That's what would happen.

2409
01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:38,200
It's not like, oh, we just chill in the room.

2410
01:41:38,200 --> 01:41:39,200
Like no, no, he's gonna-

2411
01:41:39,200 --> 01:41:44,240
As I started worshiping chaos, I could get away, but Curse, I'm not.

2412
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:45,240
I'm going to be a pillow.

2413
01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:46,240
Curse is just plain insane.

2414
01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:47,240
Curse is just crazy.

2415
01:41:47,240 --> 01:41:50,800
Erebus at least is trying to do stuff with his-

2416
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:55,440
Well, Curse would make you into pillow, but Erebus would make you into pillow with 10 extra

2417
01:41:55,440 --> 01:41:58,880
steps, you know, that would be what it is.

2418
01:41:58,880 --> 01:41:59,880
He's totally-

2419
01:41:59,880 --> 01:42:02,880
He'd make you into an eternally living pillow that's been for a time.

2420
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:04,880
I'm more terrified of Curse than I am of Erebus.

2421
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:05,880
Surely.

2422
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:06,880
Like Curse would let you die.

2423
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:08,880
Erebus would be like, no, we're not fearless.

2424
01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:09,880
He never resides.

2425
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:10,880
We're scrolling down.

2426
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:11,880
That's crazy.

2427
01:42:11,880 --> 01:42:12,880
We're scrolling down.

2428
01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:13,880
Corpheron.

2429
01:42:13,880 --> 01:42:14,880
Oh my god.

2430
01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:15,880
Let's get through them.

2431
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:16,880
Corpheron.

2432
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:17,880
Corpheron is actually worse.

2433
01:42:17,880 --> 01:42:18,880
Corpheron.

2434
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:19,880
Erebus from Wish.

2435
01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:20,880
There's not a single-

2436
01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:21,880
Erebus from Wish.

2437
01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:22,880
There's nothing even nice.

2438
01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:23,880
Yeah, there's nothing good about Corpheron.

2439
01:42:23,880 --> 01:42:24,880
No.

2440
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:25,880
He's just so...

2441
01:42:25,880 --> 01:42:26,880
Yeah.

2442
01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:27,880
Didn't he beat Lorgoth before he got too big?

2443
01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:28,880
Yeah.

2444
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:29,880
Not great.

2445
01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:30,880
And he couldn't do it anymore.

2446
01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:33,320
But no, but Lorgoth let him do it, because it made him feel special.

2447
01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:35,320
What is this picture?

2448
01:42:35,320 --> 01:42:36,320
Zardu-Leyak.

2449
01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:37,320
Oh, the-

2450
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:40,320
Zardu-Leyak, the Crimson Apostle.

2451
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:45,160
All I need to know is during the Siege of Terror, he made his face in the sky out of

2452
01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:47,320
bones, to like, intimidate the loyalists.

2453
01:42:47,320 --> 01:42:48,320
Yeah, that's not great.

2454
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:49,320
Red flag!

2455
01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:50,320
Pretty cool.

2456
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:51,320
Red flag.

2457
01:42:51,320 --> 01:42:57,040
And then he was a word bearer character who had his entire identity erased by chaos and

2458
01:42:57,040 --> 01:43:01,240
just became the embodiment of their will, in a way.

2459
01:43:01,240 --> 01:43:02,560
Yeah.

2460
01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:04,920
And then Dorne killed him and looted up.

2461
01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:05,920
His evil-

2462
01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:09,240
He also put Abaddon on the path to being the Despoiler.

2463
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:10,240
Volkan.

2464
01:43:10,240 --> 01:43:11,240
Eldar Child.

2465
01:43:11,240 --> 01:43:14,240
Okay, I knew that was gonna come up.

2466
01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:15,240
Yeah, I think he's E.T.

2467
01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:16,240
E.T. is fun.

2468
01:43:16,240 --> 01:43:21,560
And if Cato Sicarius could curb Stomper Tau, Volkan can burn one child instead.

2469
01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:23,560
Yeah, but that was Cato Sicarius doing it.

2470
01:43:23,560 --> 01:43:25,560
How many times do we have to stay-

2471
01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:28,560
Yeah, Cato Sicarius could never be wrong.

2472
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:29,560
Anything he does is correct.

2473
01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:30,560
Who is this?

2474
01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:31,560
Numen?

2475
01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:33,760
This is, what's his name, first captain, shoot.

2476
01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:37,440
The guy who sacrificed himself to bring Volkan back to life.

2477
01:43:37,440 --> 01:43:38,440
Yes.

2478
01:43:38,440 --> 01:43:39,760
I've not read the Salman who puts the Sal-

2479
01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:43,200
I mean, he's kind of better than Volkan, because he's like Volkan, but he didn't Stomp slash

2480
01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:46,520
Reynad Child.

2481
01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:47,520
Yeah.

2482
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:48,520
Reynad Child.

2483
01:43:48,520 --> 01:43:49,520
Korrax.

2484
01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:50,520
C-tier.

2485
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:51,520
You know what?

2486
01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:55,880
He's got a few problems, this guy, honestly.

2487
01:43:55,880 --> 01:44:02,440
In his Primark novel, he has an issue where he has a choice between saving a campaign

2488
01:44:02,440 --> 01:44:07,760
or chasing one rogue governor who poisons own people.

2489
01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:12,920
He made a choice between hunting down the justice of one dude versus saving a population

2490
01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:14,840
and stuff, so he's got problems.

2491
01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:15,840
He's self-obsessed.

2492
01:44:15,840 --> 01:44:21,520
He literally is like, I am the Dark Knight, but unironically, help me.

2493
01:44:21,520 --> 01:44:23,640
Also, are you from Terra?

2494
01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:26,200
Yuck, get out of my league.

2495
01:44:26,200 --> 01:44:27,760
He's real for that.

2496
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:28,760
Kayvon Shryke.

2497
01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:29,760
I'm invisible.

2498
01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:30,760
Does he have any-

2499
01:44:30,760 --> 01:44:31,760
Invisible, no one-

2500
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:33,760
He's in the Damocles, the books.

2501
01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:36,440
Does he do anything else?

2502
01:44:36,440 --> 01:44:38,680
Maybe he's like Korrax, but not depressed.

2503
01:44:38,680 --> 01:44:42,680
Yeah, he's just kind of like, oh, we should bring back the Shadowhunters.

2504
01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:43,680
They're cool.

2505
01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:44,680
That was in a book.

2506
01:44:44,680 --> 01:44:45,680
Moving on.

2507
01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:46,680
He's all right.

2508
01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:47,680
Alpharius.

2509
01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:50,080
I might painlessly F it.

2510
01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:56,040
You'll never know that he's S. You always think he's F, but he's actually S.

2511
01:44:56,040 --> 01:45:04,920
I think he goes somewhere in A. I'd argue because he actually treats regular humans.

2512
01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:08,680
He's the only Primark who treats regular humans with respect.

2513
01:45:08,680 --> 01:45:12,000
If you're part of his circle, he's actually really nice to you.

2514
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:17,360
He's really nice to you, but also planning anything with him would be hell on earth.

2515
01:45:17,360 --> 01:45:21,640
There's also, he is absolutely going to be using you and you're never going to know if

2516
01:45:21,640 --> 01:45:28,360
you're the linchpin of the plan or if you're a disposable minion.

2517
01:45:28,360 --> 01:45:29,720
He's treating you with respect.

2518
01:45:29,720 --> 01:45:31,200
He's still using you.

2519
01:45:31,200 --> 01:45:35,120
Or is he just humoring you for his own delight and you have no actual concept of that even

2520
01:45:35,120 --> 01:45:36,120
involved?

2521
01:45:36,120 --> 01:45:37,120
You're just there for fun.

2522
01:45:37,120 --> 01:45:38,120
Yeah.

2523
01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:39,120
You're on blacklist.

2524
01:45:39,120 --> 01:45:40,120
Okay, well.

2525
01:45:40,120 --> 01:45:41,120
I don't know.

2526
01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:42,120
He's made right.

2527
01:45:42,120 --> 01:45:43,120
Right with Abaddon, I think.

2528
01:45:43,120 --> 01:45:44,120
Pretty bad.

2529
01:45:44,120 --> 01:45:45,120
He was crazy from the start, bro.

2530
01:45:45,120 --> 01:45:46,120
I don't know.

2531
01:45:46,120 --> 01:45:51,120
He was manipulative and power hungry from the very start.

2532
01:45:51,120 --> 01:45:52,120
Bro doesn't like taxes.

2533
01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:53,120
I can't put a man in S tier for that reason alone.

2534
01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:58,560
He's a real one, but he will not be a good, he will not be good in a relationship.

2535
01:45:58,560 --> 01:45:59,560
I think he's S tier.

2536
01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:03,680
I wonder if the Tyrant of Vadab is a bad guy.

2537
01:46:03,680 --> 01:46:04,680
Red flag.

2538
01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:07,680
I think Abaddon's way better than him.

2539
01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:08,680
Caldor Drago.

2540
01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:09,680
Oh, F, F, F. You can't, bro.

2541
01:46:09,680 --> 01:46:10,680
I'm sorry.

2542
01:46:10,680 --> 01:46:11,680
I'm sorry.

2543
01:46:11,680 --> 01:46:12,680
Bro, another win.

2544
01:46:12,680 --> 01:46:13,680
Another win for Caldor Drago.

2545
01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:14,680
Nothing is wrong with this man.

2546
01:46:14,680 --> 01:46:15,680
Another Mat Ward W.

2547
01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:18,680
Yeah, you want to smack my head against the key.

2548
01:46:18,680 --> 01:46:19,680
Sebastian Yarrow.

2549
01:46:19,680 --> 01:46:23,680
I can imagine going on a date with Caldor Drago.

2550
01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:24,680
No, no.

2551
01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:26,680
Put Drago in B tier because he's never around.

2552
01:46:26,680 --> 01:46:28,680
He is always in hell.

2553
01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:30,400
He's always around when they need him.

2554
01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:32,680
He just appears at the exact moment they need him.

2555
01:46:32,680 --> 01:46:36,200
Yeah, and then the rest of the time he's...

2556
01:46:36,200 --> 01:46:37,200
He's perfect for it.

2557
01:46:37,200 --> 01:46:38,200
There's nothing wrong with Caldor Drago.

2558
01:46:38,200 --> 01:46:39,200
No.

2559
01:46:39,200 --> 01:46:43,200
I can't tell if it's just the meme or the delusion, honestly.

2560
01:46:43,200 --> 01:46:45,800
Everyone knows.

2561
01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:46,800
The big Metis.

2562
01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:47,800
Wow.

2563
01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:48,800
The five euros.

2564
01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:54,200
To be fair, can't you get promoted to B tier solely because he beat the shit out of Erebus?

2565
01:46:54,200 --> 01:46:55,200
Fair enough.

2566
01:46:55,200 --> 01:46:58,200
By the time he got...

2567
01:46:58,200 --> 01:47:01,200
This is a hell of a one.

2568
01:47:01,200 --> 01:47:05,200
Ten dollars and my therapist none of a hell in his relationship.

2569
01:47:05,200 --> 01:47:06,200
Fing hell.

2570
01:47:06,200 --> 01:47:07,200
Damn, bro.

2571
01:47:07,200 --> 01:47:09,200
Everybody comes.

2572
01:47:09,200 --> 01:47:11,200
Donkeyman USA, think of it as the five dollars.

2573
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:15,200
The only green flag Alpharius has is getting disassembled by Doran like a Lego man.

2574
01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:16,200
Crazy.

2575
01:47:16,200 --> 01:47:19,200
That's crazy that you'd say that.

2576
01:47:19,200 --> 01:47:22,200
One of them is still around.

2577
01:47:22,200 --> 01:47:23,200
Yarrick is...

2578
01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:27,200
Again, he's committed to the job and he'll never retire.

2579
01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:29,200
He can't settle down with Yarrick.

2580
01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:30,200
He's also probably...

2581
01:47:30,200 --> 01:47:33,200
He's also kind of obsessed.

2582
01:47:33,200 --> 01:47:35,200
He's kind of nuts.

2583
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:38,200
In a way, the Imperium needs it though.

2584
01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:39,200
Can we have dinner tonight?

2585
01:47:39,200 --> 01:47:41,200
No, I have to kill Gasgall.

2586
01:47:41,200 --> 01:47:44,200
Okay, honey, have fun.

2587
01:47:44,200 --> 01:47:47,200
Kai Khaifiz Kain here of the Imperium.

2588
01:47:47,200 --> 01:47:48,200
F.

2589
01:47:48,200 --> 01:47:51,200
This is funny guy.

2590
01:47:51,200 --> 01:47:53,200
It has to be E.

2591
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:54,200
I think he's E, bro.

2592
01:47:54,200 --> 01:47:57,200
I hate to do this to my boy, Kai Khaifiz Kain.

2593
01:47:57,200 --> 01:48:02,200
It has to go into E because he's actually a coward.

2594
01:48:02,200 --> 01:48:07,200
He's a bit of a womanizer.

2595
01:48:07,200 --> 01:48:08,200
Yeah.

2596
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:13,200
I don't know if you can really be in a committed relationship with this guy.

2597
01:48:13,200 --> 01:48:17,200
And he literally does say that he doesn't care for his men lives only to the point in

2598
01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:19,200
which they will protect him.

2599
01:48:19,200 --> 01:48:21,200
He says that.

2600
01:48:21,200 --> 01:48:24,200
He says that, but he does stuff where it's like...

2601
01:48:24,200 --> 01:48:26,200
He looks like he cares.

2602
01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:30,200
Look, I think put him in D tier because no matter what, you have a wonderful evening

2603
01:48:30,200 --> 01:48:31,200
with Kai Khaifiz Kain.

2604
01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:34,200
You go home, Amberley Veil is at your fucking door.

2605
01:48:34,200 --> 01:48:37,200
I don't think Derek was killed by Angron.

2606
01:48:37,200 --> 01:48:38,200
That's not like...

2607
01:48:38,200 --> 01:48:39,200
I don't think it's official.

2608
01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:40,200
You're not official.

2609
01:48:40,200 --> 01:48:43,200
This is just random stuff that people have said.

2610
01:48:43,200 --> 01:48:45,200
Also, even if it is official, it becomes...

2611
01:48:45,200 --> 01:48:47,200
It's not his fault.

2612
01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:49,200
It's not a personality failing.

2613
01:48:49,200 --> 01:48:50,200
Derek is definitely...

2614
01:48:50,200 --> 01:48:51,200
A silent king.

2615
01:48:51,200 --> 01:48:55,200
A sadistic because he can't even talk to you.

2616
01:48:55,200 --> 01:49:00,200
He's also arguably the one who caused 40K.

2617
01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:02,200
And that's the old one's fault.

2618
01:49:02,200 --> 01:49:04,200
But yeah, he's not a great guy.

2619
01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:06,200
He is not going to pay child support.

2620
01:49:06,200 --> 01:49:08,200
He is not going to be there.

2621
01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:11,200
He's going to leave for 60 million years.

2622
01:49:11,200 --> 01:49:14,200
He's turned it around a bit.

2623
01:49:14,200 --> 01:49:18,200
He's made mistakes and he knows the mistakes he's made.

2624
01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:23,200
Did he annihilate his entire species and turn them into something else?

2625
01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:27,200
I mean, to be fair, he didn't really know that was going to happen.

2626
01:49:27,200 --> 01:49:31,200
I fed my people to the hungry gods.

2627
01:49:31,200 --> 01:49:35,200
The guy named the Deceiver, turns out he's pretty good at deceiving.

2628
01:49:35,200 --> 01:49:39,200
He didn't have a name tag.

2629
01:49:39,200 --> 01:49:40,200
Maybe A-tier.

2630
01:49:40,200 --> 01:49:41,200
He's not worse than the Emperor.

2631
01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:42,200
Who am I kidding?

2632
01:49:42,200 --> 01:49:43,200
He's A-tier, bro.

2633
01:49:43,200 --> 01:49:45,200
The Emperor should be S-tier.

2634
01:49:45,200 --> 01:49:46,200
I say it again.

2635
01:49:46,200 --> 01:49:48,200
I can't believe it.

2636
01:49:48,200 --> 01:49:49,200
Broken liching.

2637
01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:53,200
They were both galactic rulers who ruined everything for their subjects.

2638
01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:55,200
At least Zarek felt bad about it.

2639
01:49:55,200 --> 01:49:58,200
He got rid of the command protocols.

2640
01:49:58,200 --> 01:50:01,200
He does have some redemption.

2641
01:50:01,200 --> 01:50:04,200
There was a point where they were like, should we turn them off?

2642
01:50:04,200 --> 01:50:07,200
He's like, no, they'll kill me if we turn them off.

2643
01:50:07,200 --> 01:50:10,200
I think he goes in between Talos and Ahriman.

2644
01:50:10,200 --> 01:50:13,200
He has something there that's not fully bad.

2645
01:50:13,200 --> 01:50:16,200
His mistakes are enormous.

2646
01:50:16,200 --> 01:50:19,200
But also has no organs.

2647
01:50:19,200 --> 01:50:22,200
That's a red flag.

2648
01:50:22,200 --> 01:50:25,200
I'm busting for a wee.

2649
01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:27,200
There's a bunch of Xenos here.

2650
01:50:27,200 --> 01:50:29,200
Can you see who they are?

2651
01:50:29,200 --> 01:50:34,200
If you go through them, I'll get back and you can tell me where they're supposed to go.

2652
01:50:34,200 --> 01:50:36,200
Mr. Trazen.

2653
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:38,200
He's obsessive.

2654
01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:41,200
He'll be nice to you, sure.

2655
01:50:41,200 --> 01:50:45,200
But you're never going to have a relationship with this guy.

2656
01:50:45,200 --> 01:50:50,200
I could almost argue, because top of A, Angron and stuff like that.

2657
01:50:50,200 --> 01:50:53,200
I don't think he's...

2658
01:50:53,200 --> 01:50:56,200
I've got to keep going back to that.

2659
01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:59,200
He's not worse than the Emperor.

2660
01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:02,200
A tier or B tier would be fine.

2661
01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:07,200
He has noble goals, but it is a turn into obsession.

2662
01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:12,200
It would be so awful to be in a relationship with Orkan, bro.

2663
01:51:12,200 --> 01:51:17,200
You will argue with this guy for 1000 times.

2664
01:51:17,200 --> 01:51:22,200
You will argue with this guy for 1000 years and not even know it.

2665
01:51:22,200 --> 01:51:24,200
He's probably S tier.

2666
01:51:24,200 --> 01:51:29,200
He's also going to get involved in the argument, because they're in a sexless gay marriage.

2667
01:51:29,200 --> 01:51:31,200
S tier or A tier.

2668
01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:34,200
Orkan, please come to bed. No, I'm mouthing right now.

2669
01:51:34,200 --> 01:51:38,200
I can't. I need to figure out how to bother Trazen more.

2670
01:51:38,200 --> 01:51:42,200
He will reverse time until he gets the restaurant that he wants to go to.

2671
01:51:42,200 --> 01:51:45,200
No, he's going to reverse time until he wins the argument.

2672
01:51:45,200 --> 01:51:47,200
Yeah.

2673
01:51:47,200 --> 01:51:50,200
On va, S tier easily.

2674
01:51:50,200 --> 01:51:53,200
On she is F tier 100%.

2675
01:51:53,200 --> 01:51:55,200
Varsityes like B tier.

2676
01:51:55,200 --> 01:51:57,200
Is he?

2677
01:51:57,200 --> 01:52:00,200
He's got issues.

2678
01:52:00,200 --> 01:52:02,200
I wouldn't say he's not.

2679
01:52:02,200 --> 01:52:04,200
I think I'd even put him in C tier.

2680
01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:06,200
There's a noble heart underneath him.

2681
01:52:06,200 --> 01:52:08,200
You're the Tao more than me.

2682
01:52:08,200 --> 01:52:10,200
I would probably adjust him.

2683
01:52:10,200 --> 01:52:15,200
Shadow Sun probably be maybe even A.

2684
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:17,200
Something a little bit wrong.

2685
01:52:17,200 --> 01:52:18,200
He's kind of crazy.

2686
01:52:18,200 --> 01:52:19,200
She doesn't care about people.

2687
01:52:19,200 --> 01:52:21,200
Chazel Case is S tier.

2688
01:52:21,200 --> 01:52:23,200
Bro is supposed to be alone.

2689
01:52:23,200 --> 01:52:26,200
He's not going to be in a relationship in the first place.

2690
01:52:26,200 --> 01:52:31,200
He's also kind of probably dragging the mountain of corpses behind him, whatever you meet him.

2691
01:52:31,200 --> 01:52:33,200
Yeah, he is insane.

2692
01:52:33,200 --> 01:52:34,200
He is definitely S tier.

2693
01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:36,200
Love him though, real one.

2694
01:52:36,200 --> 01:52:39,200
Hit me out on Gatskull, okay? Hit me out on this one.

2695
01:52:39,200 --> 01:52:45,200
I think it's D because it's the kind of relationship in which you adapt to it and you're having the best time ever.

2696
01:52:45,200 --> 01:52:47,200
I was just saying, how do you judge him?

2697
01:52:47,200 --> 01:52:49,200
Do you judge him by orc standards?

2698
01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:51,200
How does he treat... what's his name?

2699
01:52:51,200 --> 01:52:53,200
Makari?

2700
01:52:53,200 --> 01:52:55,200
How does he treat Makari?

2701
01:52:55,200 --> 01:52:57,200
Because I think you can just say, oh, enough of that.

2702
01:52:57,200 --> 01:52:59,200
Yeah, I think you can just say, oh, we are over that.

2703
01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:03,200
But then Makari just comes back and has another new body, so it's fine.

2704
01:53:03,200 --> 01:53:05,200
But does he treat him good?

2705
01:53:05,200 --> 01:53:06,200
Does he treat him nice?

2706
01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:08,200
Makari seems happy to be there.

2707
01:53:08,200 --> 01:53:12,200
There's a really nice bit where his head's cut off by Ragnar Blackmane.

2708
01:53:12,200 --> 01:53:15,200
And while he's dying, he goes, what will happen to Makari?

2709
01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:17,200
Will someone look after Makari?

2710
01:53:17,200 --> 01:53:18,200
He's well into it.

2711
01:53:18,200 --> 01:53:20,200
I was thinking about Gatskull.

2712
01:53:20,200 --> 01:53:24,200
By orc standards at least, he treats Makari like the favourite child.

2713
01:53:24,200 --> 01:53:26,200
That doesn't mean that he's a nice guy.

2714
01:53:26,200 --> 01:53:28,200
He's not better than Sanguinus.

2715
01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:29,200
I'm going to lose it.

2716
01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:31,200
I'm going to hold fuzz at someone.

2717
01:53:31,200 --> 01:53:33,200
Wait, where's he going then?

2718
01:53:33,200 --> 01:53:37,200
All of Gatskull's personality flaws are because he's the remnants of a biological weapon made up of...

2719
01:53:37,200 --> 01:53:39,200
Only no war.

2720
01:53:39,200 --> 01:53:42,200
Sanguinus just goes nutty sometimes.

2721
01:53:42,200 --> 01:53:44,200
So yeah, I think he should be below him.

2722
01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:48,200
I think the order we did it was, Trazan was in...

2723
01:53:48,200 --> 01:53:50,200
Trazan, Orokin are in A somewhere.

2724
01:53:50,200 --> 01:53:52,200
Yeah, that's fine.

2725
01:53:52,200 --> 01:53:54,200
No, Orokin is in S.

2726
01:53:54,200 --> 01:53:56,200
Yeah, A is fine.

2727
01:53:56,200 --> 01:53:58,200
Put Trazan right below Orokin, come on.

2728
01:53:58,200 --> 01:54:00,200
S, because this is literally their version of a deceiver.

2729
01:54:00,200 --> 01:54:02,200
Anva is so evil.

2730
01:54:02,200 --> 01:54:05,200
Curse you, Phil Kelly, for doing that, by the way.

2731
01:54:05,200 --> 01:54:07,200
Anchi is F.

2732
01:54:07,200 --> 01:54:09,200
Anchi is a real one.

2733
01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:13,200
No one can beat Marnes Calgo, I'm sorry.

2734
01:54:13,200 --> 01:54:18,200
I'd rather be in a relationship with Anchi than Sanguinus.

2735
01:54:18,200 --> 01:54:20,200
I'm just saying.

2736
01:54:20,200 --> 01:54:22,200
Is that your wife then, for some reason?

2737
01:54:22,200 --> 01:54:24,200
No, we should never end.

2738
01:54:24,200 --> 01:54:28,200
Anchi is the nicest guy in Warhammer 40k, I will stand by that.

2739
01:54:28,200 --> 01:54:32,200
Shadow Sun we put in C, because she's alright.

2740
01:54:32,200 --> 01:54:34,200
She's not malicious, but she's just bad.

2741
01:54:34,200 --> 01:54:36,200
I think she's kind of crazy.

2742
01:54:36,200 --> 01:54:38,200
She's a little bit insane.

2743
01:54:38,200 --> 01:54:40,200
Kind of cray cray, and she's really cold.

2744
01:54:40,200 --> 01:54:44,200
Not more insane than a black and white car guy.

2745
01:54:44,200 --> 01:54:46,200
He was a nice guy.

2746
01:54:46,200 --> 01:54:47,200
C is fine.

2747
01:54:47,200 --> 01:54:49,200
Kace we put in S.

2748
01:54:49,200 --> 01:54:52,200
Why?

2749
01:54:52,200 --> 01:54:54,200
Because he's insane!

2750
01:54:54,200 --> 01:54:57,200
And he is the army of one, he's the lone guy.

2751
01:54:57,200 --> 01:54:59,200
He will never...

2752
01:54:59,200 --> 01:55:01,200
That's his philosophy.

2753
01:55:01,200 --> 01:55:03,200
Sorry.

2754
01:55:03,200 --> 01:55:05,200
He will know how to kill you in three thousand.

2755
01:55:05,200 --> 01:55:07,200
He's the Tao Doom guy.

2756
01:55:07,200 --> 01:55:11,200
He's malum cato, but his skin is blue instead of just his armor.

2757
01:55:11,200 --> 01:55:14,200
Yeah, but where Doom guys punching monitors when...

2758
01:55:14,200 --> 01:55:16,200
What's his name, Daniel?

2759
01:55:16,200 --> 01:55:18,200
What's his name, trying to talk with him?

2760
01:55:18,200 --> 01:55:20,200
He sided with the...

2761
01:55:20,200 --> 01:55:22,200
Samuel Hayder.

2762
01:55:22,200 --> 01:55:26,200
At least C is just like, I'll side with Peter Serafinowicz as he plays this.

2763
01:55:26,200 --> 01:55:29,200
That was before he went insane.

2764
01:55:29,200 --> 01:55:31,200
And that's Fire Warrior Kace.

2765
01:55:31,200 --> 01:55:34,200
Well we can't be held responsible when we go insane.

2766
01:55:34,200 --> 01:55:36,200
That's why it's being called insane.

2767
01:55:36,200 --> 01:55:40,200
He will never feel any emotion towards you.

2768
01:55:40,200 --> 01:55:42,200
Nothing wrong with the forearm, Deborah.

2769
01:55:42,200 --> 01:55:46,200
You will always be in a loving relationship with the forearm, Deborah.

2770
01:55:46,200 --> 01:55:48,200
No, absolutely not.

2771
01:55:48,200 --> 01:55:51,200
I want to put that in D for doubt.

2772
01:55:51,200 --> 01:55:56,200
If you're part of the Broodmine, you've never seen a single red flag in this guy.

2773
01:55:56,200 --> 01:56:01,200
Yeah, until the illusion breaks when the tyranids show up and then all of the horror comes crashing down.

2774
01:56:01,200 --> 01:56:04,200
And then you look up and they start eating your friends and you go...

2775
01:56:04,200 --> 01:56:06,200
Go off of the star children.

2776
01:56:06,200 --> 01:56:08,200
Imagine if you're all...

2777
01:56:08,200 --> 01:56:10,200
...your soup to this thing.

2778
01:56:10,200 --> 01:56:16,200
Could you imagine though, imagine your generations like you, your parents, your grandparents were all like genes to you.

2779
01:56:16,200 --> 01:56:22,200
And then all of a sudden it's like our entire relative line that's alive has made it to this moment.

2780
01:56:22,200 --> 01:56:26,200
And then they tell you like, that must be crushing to imagine that.

2781
01:56:26,200 --> 01:56:30,200
Like, oh no, they're eating my gran.

2782
01:56:30,200 --> 01:56:32,200
Carl Franz.

2783
01:56:32,200 --> 01:56:34,200
He can't stay in D tier, surely.

2784
01:56:34,200 --> 01:56:36,200
He can't stay in D tier.

2785
01:56:36,200 --> 01:56:38,200
They can't hide him.

2786
01:56:38,200 --> 01:56:40,200
No, keep him there, keep him there.

2787
01:56:40,200 --> 01:56:42,200
No, no.

2788
01:56:42,200 --> 01:56:44,200
The hivemind is just eating.

2789
01:56:44,200 --> 01:56:47,200
He's perfect in all ways.

2790
01:56:47,200 --> 01:56:49,200
I love him.

2791
01:56:49,200 --> 01:56:51,200
Keep him there.

2792
01:56:51,200 --> 01:56:53,200
No.

2793
01:56:53,200 --> 01:56:55,200
Hear me out.

2794
01:56:55,200 --> 01:56:57,200
We're sanguineous.

2795
01:56:57,200 --> 01:57:01,200
The highs are going to be so high, but there's gonna be some lows.

2796
01:57:01,200 --> 01:57:04,200
With Carl Franz, the highs are not going to be as high.

2797
01:57:04,200 --> 01:57:05,200
That's reality.

2798
01:57:05,200 --> 01:57:07,200
But there's not really lows.

2799
01:57:07,200 --> 01:57:09,200
He's consistent.

2800
01:57:09,200 --> 01:57:11,200
He shows up. He's on time.

2801
01:57:11,200 --> 01:57:13,200
N times. That's the lows.

2802
01:57:13,200 --> 01:57:15,200
Don't count N times.

2803
01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:17,200
Not real, not real, didn't happen.

2804
01:57:17,200 --> 01:57:19,200
Sorry.

2805
01:57:19,200 --> 01:57:21,200
I shouldn't have said.

2806
01:57:21,200 --> 01:57:23,200
Gelt S tier.

2807
01:57:23,200 --> 01:57:25,200
Gelt.

2808
01:57:25,200 --> 01:57:29,200
I must admit, I don't really know much about Gelt other than funny gold man.

2809
01:57:29,200 --> 01:57:31,200
So he's going to scam you.

2810
01:57:31,200 --> 01:57:33,200
That's how we became the supreme patriarch.

2811
01:57:33,200 --> 01:57:35,200
He scammed his way into Altdorf.

2812
01:57:35,200 --> 01:57:41,200
He will throw the lives of men away because he wants an upgraded magical staff.

2813
01:57:41,200 --> 01:57:47,200
Works with vampires, which to be fair, the vampire question was Vlad.

2814
01:57:47,200 --> 01:57:49,200
Not too much hate there, but he's still necromancy.

2815
01:57:49,200 --> 01:57:51,200
Not great.

2816
01:57:51,200 --> 01:58:00,200
Did try and kill the reincarnation of Sigmar in front of Carl Franz because he went a little bit insane and thought it was the changeling.

2817
01:58:00,200 --> 01:58:05,200
And then the changeling was the guy he was working with the whole time to kill the changeling.

2818
01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:07,200
Typical.

2819
01:58:07,200 --> 01:58:09,200
You know, he's it's not great.

2820
01:58:09,200 --> 01:58:11,200
Also, he's just kind of a dick.

2821
01:58:11,200 --> 01:58:13,200
He's just a dickhead.

2822
01:58:13,200 --> 01:58:15,200
He turns people into magical gold.

2823
01:58:15,200 --> 01:58:20,200
Bottom of S because it's like it's not it's not as bad as the rest of them.

2824
01:58:20,200 --> 01:58:25,200
But it's like I do I do not want to I do not want to be in a relationship with Gelt.

2825
01:58:25,200 --> 01:58:26,200
Carl sent me a family member.

2826
01:58:26,200 --> 01:58:27,200
Yeah.

2827
01:58:27,200 --> 01:58:28,200
Okay.

2828
01:58:28,200 --> 01:58:33,200
This is freaking year 500 of speaking of which the way I'm going to ask.

2829
01:58:33,200 --> 01:58:34,200
Yes.

2830
01:58:34,200 --> 01:58:35,200
Bro, come on.

2831
01:58:35,200 --> 01:58:37,200
No, no, no, no.

2832
01:58:37,200 --> 01:58:39,200
He goes right with Carl.

2833
01:58:39,200 --> 01:58:41,200
No, no.

2834
01:58:41,200 --> 01:58:44,200
Bro, literally he is the king of his.

2835
01:58:44,200 --> 01:58:45,200
Yeah.

2836
01:58:45,200 --> 01:58:48,200
And with that version of chivalry, it's oh, I'm sorry.

2837
01:58:48,200 --> 01:58:49,200
Are you a peasant?

2838
01:58:49,200 --> 01:58:50,200
Please, please lay down.

2839
01:58:50,200 --> 01:58:52,200
I need a carpet to wipe the dog.

2840
01:58:52,200 --> 01:58:54,200
And surely he's killed him.

2841
01:58:54,200 --> 01:58:56,200
Are you a peasant?

2842
01:58:56,200 --> 01:59:02,200
Yeah, he definitely trampled a few peasants that asked for rights in his lifetime.

2843
01:59:02,200 --> 01:59:09,200
In a short story about the election, he gives he gives Carl I will give him his credit, which is why, you know, put him in D or E.

2844
01:59:09,200 --> 01:59:14,200
He gives Carl like an actual mentorship lesson on how to be a leader because Carl is going to become emperor.

2845
01:59:14,200 --> 01:59:18,200
And then the moment after orcs invade and then somehow he's like, this is your fault.

2846
01:59:18,200 --> 01:59:20,200
You brought the orcs.

2847
01:59:20,200 --> 01:59:22,200
What?

2848
01:59:22,200 --> 01:59:23,200
Remember, it's the world.

2849
01:59:23,200 --> 01:59:25,200
There are orcs here.

2850
01:59:25,200 --> 01:59:26,200
It is not his fault.

2851
01:59:26,200 --> 01:59:27,200
You live on the world.

2852
01:59:27,200 --> 01:59:29,200
He works for the lady.

2853
01:59:29,200 --> 01:59:31,200
Like, he.

2854
01:59:31,200 --> 01:59:39,200
Oh, my God.

2855
01:59:39,200 --> 01:59:40,200
That's right.

2856
01:59:40,200 --> 01:59:41,200
That's right.

2857
01:59:41,200 --> 01:59:42,200
They don't know.

2858
01:59:42,200 --> 01:59:43,200
They don't know.

2859
01:59:43,200 --> 01:59:44,200
Right.

2860
01:59:44,200 --> 01:59:45,200
They don't know.

2861
01:59:45,200 --> 01:59:46,200
Right from wrong.

2862
01:59:46,200 --> 01:59:47,200
Lady.

2863
01:59:47,200 --> 01:59:48,200
Lady.

2864
01:59:48,200 --> 01:59:49,200
Is that the lady?

2865
01:59:49,200 --> 01:59:50,200
Lady.

2866
01:59:50,200 --> 01:59:51,200
Lady.

2867
01:59:51,200 --> 01:59:53,200
She's I don't know if she's that much.

2868
01:59:53,200 --> 01:59:56,200
This is the same overall.

2869
01:59:56,200 --> 01:59:59,200
She's she's using an entire country.

2870
01:59:59,200 --> 02:00:01,200
Yeah, maybe the bottom of B.

2871
02:00:01,200 --> 02:00:03,200
Yeah, I think B is fine.

2872
02:00:03,200 --> 02:00:07,200
But she's an elf.

2873
02:00:07,200 --> 02:00:10,200
God.

2874
02:00:10,200 --> 02:00:16,200
She does protect the people who work for her and bring the miracles and stuff, which is still better than the emperor, at least in Hora's A, I see.

2875
02:00:16,200 --> 02:00:18,200
So you just lived on.

2876
02:00:18,200 --> 02:00:20,200
Oh, you're afraid to kill her.

2877
02:00:20,200 --> 02:00:22,200
Yeah, one person.

2878
02:00:22,200 --> 02:00:25,200
We're in one out of humanity.

2879
02:00:25,200 --> 02:00:26,200
Yeah.

2880
02:00:26,200 --> 02:00:29,200
And by the end of it, loads of people are doing it as well.

2881
02:00:29,200 --> 02:00:34,200
God, when things have gone wrong, everyone was doing it.

2882
02:00:34,200 --> 02:00:35,200
That's how morality works.

2883
02:00:35,200 --> 02:00:36,200
Everyone was there.

2884
02:00:36,200 --> 02:00:39,200
We know where man friends go and we don't even need to talk about it.

2885
02:00:39,200 --> 02:00:42,200
Even ignoring end times, he's still a conniving bastard.

2886
02:00:42,200 --> 02:00:44,200
Yeah.

2887
02:00:44,200 --> 02:00:46,200
And he's not even good at it.

2888
02:00:46,200 --> 02:00:48,200
He could step on his three end times.

2889
02:00:48,200 --> 02:00:57,200
Or was putting his brother in charge so the other vampires would kill his brother or get killed by his brother so he could take power.

2890
02:00:57,200 --> 02:00:59,200
God tricks also asked here.

2891
02:00:59,200 --> 02:01:03,200
I'll be honest.

2892
02:01:03,200 --> 02:01:07,200
But Dante is in E tier, bro.

2893
02:01:07,200 --> 02:01:10,200
Dante does not seek his death.

2894
02:01:10,200 --> 02:01:12,200
Yes he does.

2895
02:01:12,200 --> 02:01:22,200
He asked for a mission.

2896
02:01:22,200 --> 02:01:24,200
Dante knows when he's hoping it happens, but he's staying alive because he knows he has to.

2897
02:01:24,200 --> 02:01:26,200
God trick is not trying to stay alive.

2898
02:01:26,200 --> 02:01:33,200
By that metric, then God trick is still trying to stay alive in each fight because if you don't fight your hardest, you're not dying.

2899
02:01:33,200 --> 02:01:35,200
He's doing it so someone can say cool story.

2900
02:01:35,200 --> 02:01:42,200
He's also doing it because slayers aren't allowed to just throw themselves on top of a spear.

2901
02:01:42,200 --> 02:01:44,200
They're both fighting for duty.

2902
02:01:44,200 --> 02:01:50,200
But I think God trick has resigned himself to his fate and later, fuck out, Dias or something.

2903
02:01:50,200 --> 02:01:52,200
Dante's just like, please let me go.

2904
02:01:52,200 --> 02:01:54,200
I've been doing this really long time.

2905
02:01:54,200 --> 02:01:55,200
It's B tier.

2906
02:01:55,200 --> 02:01:57,200
I think he goes right next to Sigismund.

2907
02:01:57,200 --> 02:02:05,200
Because in the same way, they both are seeking just to fight it out, but God trick is actually nice to people.

2908
02:02:05,200 --> 02:02:07,200
Was it human children and all that stuff?

2909
02:02:07,200 --> 02:02:09,200
He's quite pleasant around.

2910
02:02:09,200 --> 02:02:11,200
Human children?

2911
02:02:11,200 --> 02:02:15,200
This fucking menu sucks dick.

2912
02:02:15,200 --> 02:02:19,200
Does Felix go in S because you'll die if you date him?

2913
02:02:19,200 --> 02:02:21,200
Put him under, yeah.

2914
02:02:21,200 --> 02:02:23,200
Under the emperor.

2915
02:02:23,200 --> 02:02:25,200
If you're a love interest of Felix.

2916
02:02:25,200 --> 02:02:27,200
What is up with him?

2917
02:02:27,200 --> 02:02:31,200
Hey, settle down.

2918
02:02:31,200 --> 02:02:35,200
That's the finest Altdorf gear.

2919
02:02:35,200 --> 02:02:39,200
Put him bottom of A. He will try and protect you.

2920
02:02:39,200 --> 02:02:41,200
Just put him by God trick.

2921
02:02:41,200 --> 02:02:43,200
Put him next to God trick.

2922
02:02:43,200 --> 02:02:45,200
Altdorf fit, okay.

2923
02:02:45,200 --> 02:02:49,200
Put him below God trick because you know God trick is part of the equation.

2924
02:02:49,200 --> 02:02:51,200
You're getting a second husband.

2925
02:02:51,200 --> 02:02:56,200
To be honest, I'm just finding amusing their sandwich between Sigismund and the collective high-end.

2926
02:02:56,200 --> 02:03:02,200
Felix is worse to date than the high-end, bro.

2927
02:03:02,200 --> 02:03:06,200
Speaking of like, the optimal dating option.

2928
02:03:06,200 --> 02:03:09,200
Bro is made out of love handles.

2929
02:03:09,200 --> 02:03:10,200
Yeah.

2930
02:03:10,200 --> 02:03:12,200
More lovin'.

2931
02:03:12,200 --> 02:03:15,200
More pushing, baby, you know what I'm saying?

2932
02:03:15,200 --> 02:03:20,200
He'll eat you in a week.

2933
02:03:20,200 --> 02:03:21,200
That's his chat up line.

2934
02:03:21,200 --> 02:03:22,200
I'm gonna eat you up.

2935
02:03:22,200 --> 02:03:24,200
Like, oh, Grease says something.

2936
02:03:24,200 --> 02:03:26,200
No, I'm gonna eat you up.

2937
02:03:26,200 --> 02:03:28,200
He's very greedy.

2938
02:03:28,200 --> 02:03:29,200
E.

2939
02:03:29,200 --> 02:03:31,200
I mean, it's just a guaranteed death.

2940
02:03:31,200 --> 02:03:33,200
It's a guaranteed death.

2941
02:03:33,200 --> 02:03:35,200
Hear me out.

2942
02:03:35,200 --> 02:03:37,200
E for eat.

2943
02:03:37,200 --> 02:03:38,200
Yeah.

2944
02:03:38,200 --> 02:03:44,200
He made friends with Cathay and in fact put in a system so they wouldn't keep eating traitors.

2945
02:03:44,200 --> 02:03:48,200
He's not better than Vulcan, surely.

2946
02:03:48,200 --> 02:03:53,200
Pretty sure he's eaten children.

2947
02:03:53,200 --> 02:03:55,200
It's just an altar, bro.

2948
02:03:55,200 --> 02:03:57,200
It's just an altar.

2949
02:03:57,200 --> 02:04:01,200
How are you gonna fault a guy for getting the munchies?

2950
02:04:01,200 --> 02:04:06,200
Around an orphanage.

2951
02:04:06,200 --> 02:04:09,200
F for fuck.

2952
02:04:09,200 --> 02:04:12,200
Teckles is a betrayer.

2953
02:04:12,200 --> 02:04:13,200
He's a snake, man.

2954
02:04:13,200 --> 02:04:14,200
He's a snake.

2955
02:04:14,200 --> 02:04:15,200
He's a regular.

2956
02:04:15,200 --> 02:04:16,200
Teckles is drying his bed.

2957
02:04:16,200 --> 02:04:18,200
Do not put him in S tier.

2958
02:04:18,200 --> 02:04:20,200
Two betrayers side by side.

2959
02:04:20,200 --> 02:04:22,200
We're even doing a similar pose.

2960
02:04:22,200 --> 02:04:23,200
He could have been in B tier.

2961
02:04:23,200 --> 02:04:25,200
He could have been right next to our Farih, I think.

2962
02:04:25,200 --> 02:04:33,200
There is a passage where Teckles is ruminating on how he feels closer to the humans him and Tyrion are patrolling with than he does the other elves.

2963
02:04:33,200 --> 02:04:37,200
Because they're also looked down upon by the rest of his kin.

2964
02:04:37,200 --> 02:04:38,200
Geez.

2965
02:04:38,200 --> 02:04:40,200
Teckles can be a real one.

2966
02:04:40,200 --> 02:04:42,200
I don't think that's sympathetic.

2967
02:04:42,200 --> 02:04:44,200
He sent his niece to go get sacrificed.

2968
02:04:44,200 --> 02:04:51,200
Yeah, but that was to bring back Nagash, which as I will discuss, is inherently morally just.

2969
02:04:51,200 --> 02:04:55,200
Should we read some donations before we go through the last one?

2970
02:04:55,200 --> 02:04:56,200
We've just got the one.

2971
02:04:56,200 --> 02:05:00,200
Tom Warren.

2972
02:05:00,200 --> 02:05:01,200
Thank you for the five dollars.

2973
02:05:01,200 --> 02:05:03,200
This slander, Gottrick deserves F tier.

2974
02:05:03,200 --> 02:05:06,200
The Slayer stuff is what happened after the relationship was ruined.

2975
02:05:06,200 --> 02:05:09,200
Through no fault of his, Gottrick was still part of his life.

2976
02:05:09,200 --> 02:05:12,200
Gottrick was a loving father for quite some time.

2977
02:05:12,200 --> 02:05:16,200
And then that wasn't Tyrion.

2978
02:05:16,200 --> 02:05:17,200
S.

2979
02:05:17,200 --> 02:05:19,200
Daddy Trek.

2980
02:05:19,200 --> 02:05:20,200
S.

2981
02:05:20,200 --> 02:05:25,200
It can't be S though, because he was doing all right before that.

2982
02:05:25,200 --> 02:05:29,200
Dude, you're going to be hanging out.

2983
02:05:29,200 --> 02:05:31,200
Like, you know, it's a good time.

2984
02:05:31,200 --> 02:05:33,200
Tyrion's a very charismatic fella.

2985
02:05:33,200 --> 02:05:39,200
And then he's going to suddenly just go stone faced and just look north towards the Widowmaker.

2986
02:05:39,200 --> 02:05:47,200
I think he goes just below Sevatar, because he'll like, he'll bring doom, but he also won't wear skin capes.

2987
02:05:47,200 --> 02:05:48,200
Fair enough.

2988
02:05:48,200 --> 02:05:51,200
Just below Sevatar.

2989
02:05:51,200 --> 02:05:54,200
Yeah, I think, yeah.

2990
02:05:54,200 --> 02:05:59,200
Walking, walking.

2991
02:05:59,200 --> 02:06:02,200
We were going back to the skin capes.

2992
02:06:02,200 --> 02:06:05,200
There's a lot of skin capes in Nagaroth.

2993
02:06:05,200 --> 02:06:10,200
I still think Kurs is the worst.

2994
02:06:10,200 --> 02:06:15,200
We had a whole discussion about you.

2995
02:06:15,200 --> 02:06:17,200
Yeah, the Kurs is the worst.

2996
02:06:17,200 --> 02:06:18,200
The Kurs is the worst.

2997
02:06:18,200 --> 02:06:20,200
No, I said Kurs is the worst.

2998
02:06:20,200 --> 02:06:22,200
Yeah, I was great with you.

2999
02:06:22,200 --> 02:06:24,200
I was great with you.

3000
02:06:24,200 --> 02:06:26,200
I was on Erebus's side.

3001
02:06:26,200 --> 02:06:27,200
That was not the worst.

3002
02:06:27,200 --> 02:06:34,200
Also, look, Malekith, he's got a little scrying chamber at the top of his tower where he can look at anything and anyone in the world.

3003
02:06:34,200 --> 02:06:37,200
He's absolutely looking at his mom in the bath.

3004
02:06:37,200 --> 02:06:38,200
Okay, okay.

3005
02:06:38,200 --> 02:06:39,200
All right.

3006
02:06:39,200 --> 02:06:41,200
Moving on, moving on to his mom.

3007
02:06:41,200 --> 02:06:43,200
You don't want to be there.

3008
02:06:43,200 --> 02:06:44,200
F.

3009
02:06:44,200 --> 02:06:47,200
I mean, she's the Erebus.

3010
02:06:47,200 --> 02:06:50,200
Oh, but hell, you know what you're in for.

3011
02:06:50,200 --> 02:06:54,200
There's no red flags because it's all laid out for you.

3012
02:06:54,200 --> 02:06:56,200
It's all laid out for you.

3013
02:06:56,200 --> 02:06:58,200
You're not missing anything.

3014
02:06:58,200 --> 02:07:09,200
If it's like it's a hidden red flag, it is worse because if I know someone's a walking red flag, I've got my guard up.

3015
02:07:09,200 --> 02:07:11,200
If someone is more smart.

3016
02:07:11,200 --> 02:07:14,200
Yeah, but then an element of your brain is just like, I can fix her.

3017
02:07:14,200 --> 02:07:15,200
No, I can't.

3018
02:07:15,200 --> 02:07:17,200
Who's making me worse?

3019
02:07:17,200 --> 02:07:19,200
I can't fix her.

3020
02:07:19,200 --> 02:07:21,200
I mean, maybe I'm the one who's broken.

3021
02:07:21,200 --> 02:07:24,200
Maybe she can fix me.

3022
02:07:24,200 --> 02:07:29,200
Put me on the black arc right now.

3023
02:07:29,200 --> 02:07:31,200
Okay, moving on.

3024
02:07:31,200 --> 02:07:33,200
We're going north.

3025
02:07:33,200 --> 02:07:35,200
Cain is top of S tier.

3026
02:07:35,200 --> 02:07:39,200
I don't know if you could actually get worse than Cain.

3027
02:07:39,200 --> 02:07:44,200
I think Korn is a nicer guy than Cain.

3028
02:07:44,200 --> 02:07:47,200
Cain is the god of elf murder.

3029
02:07:47,200 --> 02:07:51,200
He likes watching elves die more than anything else.

3030
02:07:51,200 --> 02:07:55,200
There's a prophecy that the elder are going to kill you.

3031
02:07:55,200 --> 02:07:59,200
We can maybe show that you're a just god.

3032
02:07:59,200 --> 02:08:03,200
Maybe get a suryan or their Isha, their mom, to talk to them.

3033
02:08:03,200 --> 02:08:05,200
Kill all of them.

3034
02:08:05,200 --> 02:08:07,200
Every elder.

3035
02:08:07,200 --> 02:08:10,200
I also like that his sword basically has elf rabies.

3036
02:08:10,200 --> 02:08:13,200
That's pretty cool.

3037
02:08:13,200 --> 02:08:15,200
Kill, kill.

3038
02:08:15,200 --> 02:08:17,200
Let's ship Marathi and Fulgrim.

3039
02:08:17,200 --> 02:08:19,200
No.

3040
02:08:19,200 --> 02:08:23,200
Can we get a separate tier under Elv for Nagash?

3041
02:08:23,200 --> 02:08:28,200
There's not a single Eldar on this tier list.

3042
02:08:28,200 --> 02:08:31,200
I just realized this is truly an Andy tier list.

3043
02:08:31,200 --> 02:08:33,200
I forgot them.

3044
02:08:33,200 --> 02:08:35,200
I can add them.

3045
02:08:35,200 --> 02:08:37,200
Bro, come on.

3046
02:08:37,200 --> 02:08:42,200
Look, the world would be at peace under the dominion of death.

3047
02:08:42,200 --> 02:08:44,200
Chaos wouldn't have a foot in it.

3048
02:08:44,200 --> 02:08:45,200
Come on.

3049
02:08:45,200 --> 02:08:47,200
Where did he go wrong?

3050
02:08:47,200 --> 02:08:50,200
There's no skin capes because everyone's bones.

3051
02:08:50,200 --> 02:08:52,200
Come on.

3052
02:08:52,200 --> 02:08:57,200
This is when you realize you can't argue because this is like the immovable object.

3053
02:08:57,200 --> 02:09:00,200
It's a stubborn brick wall.

3054
02:09:00,200 --> 02:09:05,200
And the brick wall cannot perceive an argument at any other point.

3055
02:09:05,200 --> 02:09:08,200
I still think Cain is worse than Nagash.

3056
02:09:08,200 --> 02:09:14,200
I think Hal, it's more apt to say it's like the force going into a black hole.

3057
02:09:14,200 --> 02:09:18,200
It just gets consumed and swelled around to nothingness.

3058
02:09:18,200 --> 02:09:24,200
As soon as you hit that event horizon of just like, no, I'm not getting out of this.

3059
02:09:24,200 --> 02:09:29,200
And you know who has a black hole under his control?

3060
02:09:29,200 --> 02:09:31,200
Nagash, the shyish nadir.

3061
02:09:31,200 --> 02:09:32,200
That sounds wrong.

3062
02:09:32,200 --> 02:09:33,200
He's perfect.

3063
02:09:33,200 --> 02:09:35,200
He's hiding under there, Nagash.

3064
02:09:35,200 --> 02:09:40,200
Anyway, name Nagash's black hole.

3065
02:09:40,200 --> 02:09:43,200
He's a goat.

3066
02:09:43,200 --> 02:09:47,200
I think he goes in E tier because if you...

3067
02:09:47,200 --> 02:09:51,200
Look, anything Settra does is correct, except for fighting Nagash.

3068
02:09:51,200 --> 02:09:56,200
But aside from that, you know, he's got understandable reasons for not being correct on that one.

3069
02:09:56,200 --> 02:09:57,200
I can't blame him.

3070
02:09:57,200 --> 02:10:00,200
Maybe D because he's not malicious.

3071
02:10:00,200 --> 02:10:02,200
He's just a standard war.

3072
02:10:02,200 --> 02:10:08,200
The only two things are that if need be, he will sacrifice all of your children to the gods.

3073
02:10:08,200 --> 02:10:11,200
But it is to end the harvest.

3074
02:10:11,200 --> 02:10:17,200
And if you fuck up saying his full title of names when he comes home from work for two hours straight, he beheads you.

3075
02:10:17,200 --> 02:10:18,200
But it's Settra's title.

3076
02:10:18,200 --> 02:10:20,200
So like, you know, really you deserve it.

3077
02:10:20,200 --> 02:10:23,200
I'd be too on edge.

3078
02:10:23,200 --> 02:10:29,200
To be honest, just for the fact that he's got a bad skincare routine, I'd say that's a red flag.

3079
02:10:29,200 --> 02:10:33,200
All right. Well, he's like 12,000 years old.

3080
02:10:33,200 --> 02:10:36,200
I was about to say, there's a moist crevice on that entire thing.

3081
02:10:36,200 --> 02:10:38,200
He lives in a desert.

3082
02:10:38,200 --> 02:10:41,200
So do I look at Dusty.

3083
02:10:41,200 --> 02:10:43,200
He's not because he is the best guy ever.

3084
02:10:43,200 --> 02:10:45,200
He is undead.

3085
02:10:45,200 --> 02:10:48,200
All the comments are just like, hey, there's children.

3086
02:10:48,200 --> 02:10:51,200
Hey, there's children in the chat just again and again.

3087
02:10:51,200 --> 02:10:54,200
I think B is pretty good.

3088
02:10:54,200 --> 02:10:55,200
Who's this lady?

3089
02:10:55,200 --> 02:10:57,200
Yeah, so what if he did? They deserved it.

3090
02:10:57,200 --> 02:10:58,200
Settra needed the dip.

3091
02:10:58,200 --> 02:11:00,200
Oh, that's Kalida.

3092
02:11:00,200 --> 02:11:07,200
Look, she has a sense of humor, which for a Warhammer character already means I can't put her above C.

3093
02:11:07,200 --> 02:11:12,200
And in one of the books, she put a poison bracelet on Felix.

3094
02:11:12,200 --> 02:11:14,200
So like that was timed.

3095
02:11:14,200 --> 02:11:17,200
So he would complete the mission she had of her.

3096
02:11:17,200 --> 02:11:18,200
They got back.

3097
02:11:18,200 --> 02:11:23,200
It went off just before she was able to take it off.

3098
02:11:23,200 --> 02:11:28,200
She was like, well, the poison in that thing just turned to dust like 5000 years ago.

3099
02:11:28,200 --> 02:11:32,200
We were just doing that to fuck with you.

3100
02:11:32,200 --> 02:11:35,200
So does she reject vampism as well?

3101
02:11:35,200 --> 02:11:37,200
She did. So strong morals.

3102
02:11:37,200 --> 02:11:42,200
I think the biggest red flag is that she's going to like.

3103
02:11:42,200 --> 02:11:43,200
She's undead.

3104
02:11:43,200 --> 02:11:46,200
Kind of like how Gilliman is putting the job before the undead too.

3105
02:11:46,200 --> 02:11:49,200
But like Gilliman is putting his job for you.

3106
02:11:49,200 --> 02:11:54,200
She's putting like a whiff of vampirism and she's leaving the dinner date.

3107
02:11:54,200 --> 02:11:59,200
She's going to go deal with the vampires and whatever you want be damned.

3108
02:11:59,200 --> 02:12:02,200
Yeah.

3109
02:12:02,200 --> 02:12:05,200
So I think that's the biggest red flag.

3110
02:12:05,200 --> 02:12:06,200
You got a real one.

3111
02:12:06,200 --> 02:12:07,200
Yep.

3112
02:12:07,200 --> 02:12:08,200
China number one.

3113
02:12:08,200 --> 02:12:12,200
Cafe.

3114
02:12:12,200 --> 02:12:16,200
Yeah, that's his biggest red flag is he's got a green rock bolted to his head

3115
02:12:16,200 --> 02:12:20,200
and he won't tell anyone if it's warped stone or Jade.

3116
02:12:20,200 --> 02:12:21,200
It's not great.

3117
02:12:21,200 --> 02:12:22,200
It's not legal.

3118
02:12:22,200 --> 02:12:24,200
Cause he's kind of an animal as well.

3119
02:12:24,200 --> 02:12:25,200
He's a dragon.

3120
02:12:25,200 --> 02:12:31,200
Okay.

3121
02:12:31,200 --> 02:12:33,200
I think that's the biggest red flag.

3122
02:12:33,200 --> 02:12:35,200
I think that's the biggest red flag.

3123
02:12:35,200 --> 02:12:36,200
I think that's the biggest red flag.

3124
02:12:36,200 --> 02:12:38,200
I think that's the biggest red flag.

3125
02:12:38,200 --> 02:12:40,200
The dragon blooded while he was in dragon form.

3126
02:12:40,200 --> 02:12:43,200
I think just mechanically that's not going to work.

3127
02:12:43,200 --> 02:12:45,200
But I put him in like D tier.

3128
02:12:45,200 --> 02:12:47,200
He's the one he is always drinking with the buddies.

3129
02:12:47,200 --> 02:12:48,200
He is like the most down.

3130
02:12:48,200 --> 02:12:50,200
To earth of the dragons.

3131
02:12:50,200 --> 02:12:51,200
She's in.

3132
02:12:51,200 --> 02:12:53,200
She's in a T.

3133
02:12:53,200 --> 02:12:58,200
If you're under her command, you're, you're going to drown.

3134
02:12:58,200 --> 02:13:01,200
I think that's the biggest red flag.

3135
02:13:01,200 --> 02:13:02,200
Okay.

3136
02:13:02,200 --> 02:13:06,200
Well, last one.

3137
02:13:06,200 --> 02:13:07,200
Crap.

3138
02:13:07,200 --> 02:13:09,200
Blossom.

3139
02:13:09,200 --> 02:13:10,200
Five years.

3140
02:13:10,200 --> 02:13:11,200
First super chat.

3141
02:13:11,200 --> 02:13:12,200
Glory to hasher.

3142
02:13:12,200 --> 02:13:13,200
Thank you.

3143
02:13:13,200 --> 02:13:14,200
Thank you so much.

3144
02:13:14,200 --> 02:13:15,200
Thank you.

3145
02:13:15,200 --> 02:13:16,200
Glory to him.

3146
02:13:16,200 --> 02:13:17,200
Indeed.

3147
02:13:17,200 --> 02:13:19,200
To be, to be fair.

3148
02:13:19,200 --> 02:13:21,200
I've just seen that Mike.

3149
02:13:21,200 --> 02:13:24,200
The plutonium ground is fuming that I put yin yin in this tier.

3150
02:13:24,200 --> 02:13:25,200
I did it for you.

3151
02:13:25,200 --> 02:13:28,200
Last one.

3152
02:13:28,200 --> 02:13:29,200
It's always your fault.

3153
02:13:29,200 --> 02:13:31,200
If the relationship doesn't work.

3154
02:13:31,200 --> 02:13:32,200
That's the tier.

3155
02:13:32,200 --> 02:13:34,200
Can that not be the top?

3156
02:13:34,200 --> 02:13:35,200
Even.

3157
02:13:35,200 --> 02:13:38,200
It was every, every actually has their fault.

3158
02:13:38,200 --> 02:13:39,200
Anything that goes wrong.

3159
02:13:39,200 --> 02:13:46,200
If thankles involved is he like, it's simply not his fault.

3160
02:13:46,200 --> 02:13:51,200
Only one thing that thankle did that wasn't either deserved on the other party's part or not his fault.

3161
02:13:51,200 --> 02:13:52,200
You can.

3162
02:13:52,200 --> 02:13:53,200
I love him.

3163
02:13:53,200 --> 02:13:58,200
The only downside is the gas.

3164
02:13:58,200 --> 02:13:59,200
What's guess?

3165
02:13:59,200 --> 02:14:00,200
Bro.

3166
02:14:00,200 --> 02:14:01,200
That's not awesome.

3167
02:14:01,200 --> 02:14:04,200
He doesn't know what that word is.

3168
02:14:04,200 --> 02:14:05,200
Please.

3169
02:14:05,200 --> 02:14:08,200
It's like it needs to be, he needs to be the king.

3170
02:14:08,200 --> 02:14:10,200
Of this.

3171
02:14:10,200 --> 02:14:11,200
Because.

3172
02:14:11,200 --> 02:14:14,200
Negage is like he had evil incarnate.

3173
02:14:14,200 --> 02:14:17,200
Whereas like the thankle could be nice.

3174
02:14:17,200 --> 02:14:21,200
He just never will choose to be nice.

3175
02:14:21,200 --> 02:14:24,200
No, no, he can write you nice.

3176
02:14:24,200 --> 02:14:29,200
I like the idea that thank will just doesn't have any concept of what evil is to self interest.

3177
02:14:29,200 --> 02:14:30,200
And that's it.

3178
02:14:30,200 --> 02:14:31,200
Listen, give him some sympathy.

3179
02:14:31,200 --> 02:14:36,200
He spent his entire life battling a duo who had no idea who he like.

3180
02:14:36,200 --> 02:14:37,200
Who he was.

3181
02:14:37,200 --> 02:14:38,200
It was the same.

3182
02:14:38,200 --> 02:14:39,200
It's not his fault.

3183
02:14:39,200 --> 02:14:40,200
It's not his fault, bro.

3184
02:14:40,200 --> 02:14:41,200
First of all, not getting it.

3185
02:14:41,200 --> 02:14:42,200
You don't get it.

3186
02:14:42,200 --> 02:14:43,200
It's not his fault.

3187
02:14:43,200 --> 02:14:45,200
Like he is a rat.

3188
02:14:45,200 --> 02:14:47,200
He is old for a rat.

3189
02:14:47,200 --> 02:14:48,200
He backstamps.

3190
02:14:48,200 --> 02:14:51,200
He does not love anything.

3191
02:14:51,200 --> 02:14:54,200
His closest companion is on what number 15?

3192
02:14:54,200 --> 02:14:55,200
Bone ripper.

3193
02:14:55,200 --> 02:14:56,200
He's stupid.

3194
02:14:56,200 --> 02:14:57,200
So real.

3195
02:14:57,200 --> 02:14:58,200
Gaslight girl.

3196
02:14:58,200 --> 02:15:00,200
Gaslighting girl bossing rat keeping.

3197
02:15:00,200 --> 02:15:02,200
That was a real one.

3198
02:15:02,200 --> 02:15:03,200
Never nothing wrong.

3199
02:15:03,200 --> 02:15:06,200
He is the horned rat's greatest boy.

3200
02:15:06,200 --> 02:15:08,200
Like he's the horned rat's goofiest goober.

3201
02:15:08,200 --> 02:15:09,200
Come on.

3202
02:15:09,200 --> 02:15:12,200
I should tell you everything you need to know about him.

3203
02:15:12,200 --> 02:15:14,200
Yeah, that he's a perv.

3204
02:15:14,200 --> 02:15:18,200
That's a different looking tier list.

3205
02:15:18,200 --> 02:15:19,200
What happened?

3206
02:15:19,200 --> 02:15:21,200
Well, I've downloaded it.

3207
02:15:21,200 --> 02:15:22,200
So it will be in the edit.

3208
02:15:22,200 --> 02:15:24,200
What does it mean by this?

3209
02:15:24,200 --> 02:15:27,200
I used that as like a template and then I added to it.

3210
02:15:27,200 --> 02:15:29,200
Yes, that was the tier list.

3211
02:15:29,200 --> 02:15:31,200
Very nice.

3212
02:15:31,200 --> 02:15:34,200
Quickly, Eldrad's S tier.

3213
02:15:34,200 --> 02:15:37,200
Ilyk is B tier.

3214
02:15:37,200 --> 02:15:39,200
Udyriel's D tier.

3215
02:15:39,200 --> 02:15:40,200
He's just a pirate.

3216
02:15:40,200 --> 02:15:44,200
Nuedu is E tier.

3217
02:15:44,200 --> 02:15:47,200
Same hand guy.

3218
02:15:47,200 --> 02:15:49,200
I didn't hear the name.

3219
02:15:49,200 --> 02:15:51,200
I just didn't understand it.

3220
02:15:51,200 --> 02:15:52,200
Nuedu.

3221
02:15:52,200 --> 02:15:54,200
Yevrain is S tier.

3222
02:15:54,200 --> 02:15:55,200
Who else?

3223
02:15:55,200 --> 02:15:56,200
The Phoenix Lords.

3224
02:15:56,200 --> 02:15:58,200
I don't even know.

3225
02:15:58,200 --> 02:16:00,200
They're something.

3226
02:16:00,200 --> 02:16:02,200
I really don't know.

3227
02:16:02,200 --> 02:16:05,200
Asterman's got a bit of an ego.

3228
02:16:05,200 --> 02:16:08,200
He named himself the hand of God.

3229
02:16:08,200 --> 02:16:10,200
That's so cool though.

3230
02:16:10,200 --> 02:16:14,200
It is cool as hell, but you don't do that and not be full of yourself.

3231
02:16:14,200 --> 02:16:19,200
Zandric and Oberon, they won't participate.

3232
02:16:19,200 --> 02:16:21,200
They already love each other.

3233
02:16:21,200 --> 02:16:23,200
They're already best buddies.

3234
02:16:23,200 --> 02:16:26,200
There's no room for a relationship.

3235
02:16:26,200 --> 02:16:29,200
Emotech is S tier, surely.

3236
02:16:29,200 --> 02:16:32,200
Emotech's a bad guy.

3237
02:16:32,200 --> 02:16:34,200
That's good enough.

3238
02:16:34,200 --> 02:16:36,200
Anrakir is A tier.

3239
02:16:36,200 --> 02:16:38,200
He will never be home.

3240
02:16:38,200 --> 02:16:44,200
Azdrabyle Vect is in his own special tier for being in the law.

3241
02:16:44,200 --> 02:16:48,200
I may have liked that one, or enjoyed the episode.

3242
02:16:48,200 --> 02:16:51,200
That was quite a long episode, but we...

3243
02:16:51,200 --> 02:16:57,200
Man, we have giggled quite a bit of some stupid things.

3244
02:16:57,200 --> 02:17:02,200
I can't believe Kuz was not the top of the list in some parts.

3245
02:17:02,200 --> 02:17:03,200
I can't believe it either.

3246
02:17:03,200 --> 02:17:05,200
And Sigwitius is still on the bottom.

3247
02:17:05,200 --> 02:17:07,200
No Primark should be on the bottom.

3248
02:17:07,200 --> 02:17:12,200
If I had to be relationship with any character we picked, it would be Sanguine.

3249
02:17:12,200 --> 02:17:15,200
It doesn't mean that he's the best fucking character.

3250
02:17:15,200 --> 02:17:19,200
I couldn't handle Sanguine.

3251
02:17:19,200 --> 02:17:24,200
That being said, everyone, thank you guys so much for watching.

3252
02:17:24,200 --> 02:17:27,200
Everyone who sent donations throughout the episode, appreciate you.

3253
02:17:27,200 --> 02:17:29,200
Love you all. Hope you all enjoyed that.

3254
02:17:29,200 --> 02:17:31,200
And we'll catch you guys on the next one.

3255
02:17:31,200 --> 02:17:32,200
Peace.

3256
02:17:32,200 --> 02:17:33,200
Love you.

3257
02:17:33,200 --> 02:17:35,200
Bye bye.

3258
02:17:35,200 --> 02:18:04,200
Grunt.

3259
02:18:05,200 --> 02:18:07,200
Thanks for watching.