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Intro

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Hello ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, it's law crimes!

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Wooo!

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Hello everybody!

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Wooo!

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I forgot to leave my merch.

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I uh...

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Ah...

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I'm reppin'...

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Oh wait...

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A little sticker.

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Hang on, I'm stupid.

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Hang on.

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So, fun fact, you can also get remembrance merch now.

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Oh!

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Badges.

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Very nice.

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And... and shiny stickers.

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Wooo!

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Very nice.

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And other things.

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But how is everyone...

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I'm afraid we don't have Hal today.

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Hal is busy being a... a real human being.

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So, we... we have no Hal today.

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Um...

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Oh, there we go.

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The man's representing.

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There we go.

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Nice.

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Yes.

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Now I'm ready.

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Blessed.

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I gotta find our stream.

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Mm-hmm.

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So, today, Eli will be the sole judge alongside you guys in the chat of who wins today's debate.

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Um...

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Colin, what are we talking about today?

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Well, I've sold my soul, uh, in exchange for being silent for the next six years of content

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on uh... regarding the Horus heresy.

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I have been gifted with uh... a Karl Franz versus the Emperor.

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Uh... versus.

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I... I... I wanna paraphrase.

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You were just like, please, please, please, please, please, let me do this, let me do

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this.

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We were like, yeah, it's fine, go for it.

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There was some... there was some begging involved, I will admit.

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I'm not... I'm not too proud to admit there was a... there was some begging.

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We would have given it to you anyway.

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We're just like, oh, this'll be fun.

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But I will say, um... before we record... we started recording, I... we did a coin toss

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who was going first, and I gave Colin the choice of an Eldar branded coin, and Colin's

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going first.

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So, look, take that for what it's will.

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I... I've put every... every possible ball in his court to... to give... give us a good...

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and to be fair, you've like, thrashed me both times we've debated in the versus.

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So, home turf, biggie for me, Karl Franz for you.

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Hopefully it will be a... a stirring debate.

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Um... but with that in mind, uh... Eli, do you mind doing the timekeeping for us?

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Yes, I can.

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If I do, I might cheat.

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Let me see, five minutes for round one, correct?

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Mm-hmm.

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Yep.

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All right.

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I'm ready when you fellas are.

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I'm heavily biased, by the way, Andy, so you're gonna have to work real hard on this one.

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I'll do my best.

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And again, we'll do a... well, I'll do a poll on the, um... on the chat to see what the...

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the audience is thinking as well.

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But, all right.

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I'm ready to go when you are, and Colin will be started anyway, so... whenever you're ready,

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Colin.

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I am, uh... all right.

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You may count down the timer, then, I guess.

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Yep.

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Uh... three...

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Hang on.

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All right.

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Now, before we start...

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He's not ready.

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Oh, I am ready.

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I was checking my blood sugar a little bit.

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Oh.

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Let me just... look.

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Look, you can see it.

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The insulin's going in.

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That was it.

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It's done peeping.

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No.

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P.D.'s.

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P.D.'s for the debate.

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Bands, bands.

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I'm juicing right now.

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Insulin beer.

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That's awesome.

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All right.

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All I need, baby.

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All right.

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Three, two, one, go.

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All right.

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So, introducing Carl Franz is, you know, seems like, you know, walking up to someone and

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going, hey, have you ever heard of this, uh, this Jesus Christ fella?

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Uh, but, you know, that's... you know, some people... you know, let's... I'll do what I

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He's... he's Carl.

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He's Carl.

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He's Carl.

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He's Carl.

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He's Carl.

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He's Carl Franz.

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Prince and Emperor of Reikland.

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The, uh, the Emperor of the Empire of Man.

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Uh, Elector Count of Reikland.

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The Defier of the Dark.

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He's got more titles, but, you know, we'll... we'll cut it there.

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Uh, he's a real cool dude.

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He, uh, he's, you know, as he says in his trailer, he's just a man born into this world

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like you and me.

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He's, you know, he's a reasonable fella.

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He's, uh, you know, I gotta... I'm not just gonna keep repeating, he's Carl Franz.

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but just one more time for the sake of it. He's Karl Franz. He's what that most rare

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things in both Warhammer and real life. A politician with your best interests at heart.

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Doesn't happen very often. With him it does. He didn't even want to be emperor because

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he saw what it did to his dad. And if you've ever seen a before and after picture of Obama

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from his presidency, it's a little something like that, except the emperor is a kind of

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for life thing. A little bit of a stressor. I was like, no, I don't want that. I don't

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think I'm worthy. I don't think I can handle it. But he had some convincing by both some

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close allies at home and abroad during what she also made friends, you know, which again,

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some very rare in Warhammer, someone who doesn't want more war, which, you know, some, some

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people in this debate might be kind of tripping at that hurdle, but we'll save any further

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shade for later. When he was voted almost unilaterally into becoming the emperor, there's

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a short story you can find on the Total War website of all places. The only person who

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voted against him turned out to be the changeling. So I'm going to go ahead and say that one

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doesn't count. It seems like there's some bias in that vote. Even Middenland voted for

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him. Boris Toddbringer. That is, that is some impressive stuff. And since then he's just

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gone around and made the Empire a better place to live. He made all sorts of promises to

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the different electors that he even said, I felt a little bit bad about them because

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I felt like I was playing them, which then, you know, one guy from a cynical point of

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view is like, no, that's politics. You got to do what you got to do. If you read what

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he was doing, every single person came away from that with a fat dub delivered by Carl

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himself. And of course, he's a warrior. This is Warhammer. I would never, you know, we

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have to acknowledge that. He's, he's fought greenskin war bosses. He's fought giant spiders,

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you know, with goblins. He's fought beastmen, chaos, norskans. He's fought everything on

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the planet and come out on top. Sometimes with a bit of help from Sigmar. But you know

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what? I'm not here to debate power levels. I'm here to debate that he's, you know, better.

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And you know what? He's human. He takes, he's given assistance from his God, which in this

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setting is sometimes needed. He does his best because at the end of the day, all he's got

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all he has is a hammer in his mouth. By the way, he rides a Griffin, which are cool ever.

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So that's already automatically giving him points in his favor. He's just a fantastic

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guy all around. Fun fact, he's died, came back, not even in the end time. So I just

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mean in old lore, he died, but then they realized we can't kill him. He's too goddamn cool.

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So they brought him back. Incidentally, he, you know, again, I'll throw a little bit of

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a Karl Franz in that image shows what it's really like to sit on a throne and look cool.

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Because even in that old lore, when he was a dying old fuck, he looked cool as hell on

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that throne with the fire behind him and Galmar as in his hand. He's a team player. He's a

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hero. He was been inhabited by the spirit of Sigmar himself, which is a pretty high

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up on the scale of, you know, bad ass feats. He's, he's Karl Franz. He's the prince and

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emperor. And you know what? I will end simply by saying he's a, he's a real cool dude. And

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you know what? He fights for his people. And I think there's, there's some leaders in Warhammer

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that could really learn how to fight for their people, not the ideal version of their people

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that will never exist.

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Oh, very nice. 40 seconds to spare. Well, I'm convinced. Andy, what do you have to say

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for yourself?

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Wow. It's a shame. It's a shame that there's so little to talk about Karl Franz. There

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was 40 seconds left to go. I mean, what can I say?

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Wow. All right, Andy, are you prepared?

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Interesting. Okay. Round two is starting the venom early then. Okay.

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We got, we got to ignite the fuse at some point. So let's go.

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All right. That's fair.

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All right, Andy. A three.

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Wait, hang on. DJ Beast, I'll do you one better.

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What did DJ Beast do?

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He's saying do 15 pushups and dive.

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Oh, and we'll read Dono's after Andy's round. Just so you guys know.

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In between both like the R rounds.

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Yeah. In the sections.

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All right. I'm ready. I'm ready to go.

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A three, a two, a one, go.

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Okay. Speaking of, you know, Karl Franz was like the closest thing to Jesus in Warhammer

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fantasy. There are allusions in End and the Deathree that Big E was literally Jesus.

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We know for a fact he was at least Alexander the Great because the quote, and lo Alexander

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saw there were no more worlds to conquer, is attributed directly to the emperor. Big

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E was also born a man and he was out of the two, the only one to exceed mortality. You

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want to talk about emperors? What about a god emperor, bruh? Karl Franz, second fiddle

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to Sigmar, the actual god that people care about. Karl Franz, oh, he's a cool, he's

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a pretty chill dude like that dog meme that I hate on Twitter. Second fiddle to the actual

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main character of humanity. Literally the Bobby G equivalent to the emperor. Stay in

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school, Karl Franz. The adults are talking. Ain't got no psychic powers. Lol, hammer goes

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smash. Alliances with Xenos, or in this case, not even Xenos, just like elves, basic bitch

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elves with no special like space powers. Like, oh, bruh, you can't conquer your own planet.

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You had one planet. You couldn't just conquer it with humans on your own. Nah, you had to

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make alliances with elves? Ugh, elves, yuck. Can't do it on your own, can't do it off

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your own back. One measly planet. Reikland's got 17 towns. Export is iron and cheese. Holy

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Sarah. Export's conquest and badasses. Reikland has, oh, Karl Franz, I've got 17 towns in

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Reikland. Ooh, ooh, I've got several different towns. I've got Stirland, Avaland, Wissonland.

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What is even Wissonland? That's not a real word. Talabla Clan, Hockland, blah, blah,

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blah. Biggie's got a million worlds. He's got a million worlds. And he did it like that

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in a few years with a bunch of sons. Hey, I'm not trying to like be puerile or anything.

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I'm just saying Biggie, he's got at least 20, 21 sons, one of which might, there might

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also be biological sons like Constantin Baldor. Karl Franz ain't got no bitches. Hashtag virgin

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of Reikland. Oh, I said it. Karl Franz, he ain't got no girlfriend. He ain't got no

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Mrs. What's this guy? Waltzing around with his cape, with his plumed helmet, thinking

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he's all that. Bruh, have you ever been to a nightclub? Can you even do the gritty? What's

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up with you? I'm just saying, like, who'd even get a girlfriend? Whereas Biggie's like,

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oh, my girlfriend, oh, name's Erda. She made me several sons and they conquered the galaxy

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on my behalf. And they're like, even just one of them is like more powerful than you

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in any conceivable way. And they're all a fragment of who I actually am at my core because

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I'm such a badass. Oh, that's a cute little throne you got there. Mine can like make a

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projected beacon in space. It can seal portals in the immaterial realm. And it can like,

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if you sat on this, I bet you, you wouldn't last two minutes, just like your bedroom life.

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I said it. Biggie can last longer than Karl Franz. Not even joking. It's a fact. We all

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know. Galmaraz, weak ass sword. Oh, the most powerful thing I have is a hammer that's gold.

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Oh, what can it do? It's basically sting from the hobbit. But instead of flashing green

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when it hears like goblins and stuff like that, it's just like, oh, chaos. I'm going

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to, oh, my spider sense is tingling. Oh, oh, there's some chaos over there. Like my sword

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beats up your hammer. My sword, it's on fire, which is cool. And it can banish anything,

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not just banish something into the immaterial. It just untethered immaterial like beings

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and demons from reality. It like, it control out deletes anything it touches. Just the

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sword alone is cooler than anything Karl Franz has ever done. I'm just saying. Biggie's got

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better drip, let's be honest. Pure gold, nice big shield thingy. There's those jousting

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shields with the big hawk. He's got the big screaming face on his knee that's like, like,

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he's got way cooler armor. Don't get me wrong. Karl Franz is a pimp. We all know it. He's

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got the colors. He's got the army. He's got the sheen. He shines his boots. He's a pretty

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cool guy. But again, stay in school, Karl Franz. Biggie is talking. He'll shut you up

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with a thought. He'll shut you up with a blast or a glare. He'll bring you to his knees,

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bring you to your knees just by going. And then all of a sudden you're like, oh, I'm

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got any psychic powers. I guess I'll just sit down because, oh, I'm just a guy. I'm

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just a cool guy, bro. Don't worry about me. I'm just Karl Franz. It's fine. I'm just some

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guy. Just some guy that doesn't matter. Anyway, that's all.

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Wow. All right. Very good. 20 seconds to spare.

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Interesting. Interesting. Interesting rebuttal, Mr. Andy.

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Should we read some doughnuts before we move on?

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Before the blood's over.

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Oh, my gosh.

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There we go. Bloody Shirt music. Two dollars. Ron Colin losing his shit.

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Tom Warren with the two.

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The greatest emperor of man versus the worst dad ever.

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We ain't here talking about dads. We're here talking about emperoring. That's a different

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thing. At least he's got sons.

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Just saying.

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Donkeyman USA, then you're the five dollars. I have the day off. The new Stormlight book

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just dropped. I have a fresh handle of vodka and my rat marines need painting today rules.

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It sounds like a good day, my brother.

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Being the five dollars with the fantastic.

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Fantastic.

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With the fantasy cell. When the fantasy cell says something so 40k phobic, you got hit

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him with the end time stare.

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That's funny.

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Two dollars. Shout out to Knife's Cat. To who?

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Knife's Cat?

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Did somebody kill somebody's cat in the lorises in real life?

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Matt Eckert for five dollars. Carl Franz sounds like Carl Franz, which makes him Bretonian.

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Checkmate Colin.

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I'm going to come to your house and beat you to death.

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This is a nice one.

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Need the carnics. Just want to thank you guys for bringing so much joy to my life. Been

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watching you for a few months. I've loved every video. Wishing you all the best. Love

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you too. Thank you very much for that.

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Thank you.

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What a nice thing.

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Love you too. Bless you.

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Donkeyman USA, five dollars. Note, everyone who has ever had to work with Big E hates

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him. Everyone loves Carl. We ain't talking about who's the nice guy. Hashtag nice guys

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on Reddit. We're talking about who's an emperor and does the job properly. Sometimes you need

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a boss bitch and the emperor is that.

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Elliot Hopps, five dollars. Colin, if you were married to Morathy on the condition that

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you had to make videos at the same rate as Auspex Tactics, how long would you be married?

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I think I would just have to hire like 50 editors. I got I'm committing.

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Auspex is insane.

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Oh my God.

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He is a hero. Oh, bunny cop. Thank you. The five dollars caught in team meeting. Welcoming

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new blood. We'll have to watch the friends win in posts. My life is saying, hey, hey,

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shush, shush. None of that bias.

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Just because as well. Oh, Tom Warren for the five dollars. Thank you, Tom. Carl Franz has

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kids. They haven't really done anything, but that also means they haven't tried to kill

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him and ruin the galaxy either.

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I'm just I'd rather have nine good boys and nine bad guys that tried to kill me than a

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bunch of nepo babies who don't do anything. I'm just saying.

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And Gameth draws five dollars. Started reading Echoes of Eternity as my first Warhammer novel.

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What a pick. Got to the last part and boy, am I loving it. Is it wrong to love Transactor

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so much?

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That's an interesting book to start with.

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Yeah, because it's like part of the way through HH Sieger Terra.

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I need I need to get an idea. You first. Sorry.

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I've just been working on my Sieger Terra video for Sunday. You can see the timestamps.

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This is how much I spent four days working on it.

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Three days of script. Two days to record the audio. And then today I've just been editing

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and it's almost done and it's like, man, it's a lot. It's a lot. But it's good. But it's

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a lot. It's a lot.

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Geez.

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Also, bloody shirt music said he literally had steam coming from his ear.

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I don't know about that. I don't know if it would come through the headphones.

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All right. I do have questions for the two of you.

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Colin went first. I'll ask him first. Colin, can you justify the window tax?

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Can I just buy the window tax?

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He got he's dead. I'll drag on.

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I would justify my sales prior to the empire.

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Wait, hang on.

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You know that you're here. You did a market player. You went, and then you stopped here.

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You are here.

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Go back now.

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Restart. This is Imperium of Man sabotage happening to be right. They know I speak the truth.

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I would justify by saying the empire is a very complicated. It's an empire. It's got

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a lot of politics going in behind it. And also consider that around the times of the

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window tax, Archeon was coming. That was building up. So I say there's two different justifications.

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Pick which one you like more. Either there was a whole lot of politicking going on that

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Carl Franz did to make that ended up resulting in the window tax. Fun fact, the president

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doesn't sign every single bill in the law himself. Similarly, I don't think Carl is

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personally writing every law himself. Or the other justification. You ever play Fable 3

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and think it's real goddamn stupid that you can't tell your citizens, like, hey, have

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one year of taxes so the end of the world doesn't kill everyone. It's that. It's that.

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Interesting. Did he know Archeon was coming at that time?

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Yeah, that was part of the buildup. I have read Warhammer Fantasy Core rule books. The

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whole thing is Archeon's coming. The next great incursion of chaos.

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Archeon was there just like, oh, Carl Franz, I'm coming. Oh, no. Push him away. He's weird.

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He is the ever chosen of all of chaos. That does include Slaanesh.

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He lasts longer than anyone in chaos. Nice.

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He's the only person ever talked directly to Slaanesh and not come away possessed.

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And horny. He was just like, oh, I thought to Slaanesh, did you get possessed? No, but

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God. Oh, no. But I don't know how much that counts.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like Fabius is all like, I don't have urges. You're cringe.

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He's also just demented. So he's a redditor too.

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Yeah, he's a redditor. You're fucking a demon. You fucking nerd.

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He's a redditor combined with back in my day, things were better.

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Fabius, I don't sleep. All right, Fabius, have your words originals and go away.

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No, Bella.

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Now, Andy, I know you were saying that the emperor, that he has some ladies in his life.

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But can you explain to me why every lady in his life and friend has ever other than the

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one friend has left him and hates him and why Erda betrayed him and went behind his

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back and scattered his sons throughout the galaxy?

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I'm just saying like the man's been alive for what, 30,000 years. He pulls. He's got

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the drift. You want to talk about body count. That man is body count personified. Let's

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not even be around the bush right now. And you can say, oh, people hate him. It's just

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like, hate the people. Don't hate the player. Hate the games. Like, bruh, you want to talk

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about like, oh, you got your window taxes. Like you have taxes. Bruh. We just say give

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or else. Much more efficient. Don't have to worry about taxes if the refusal to give what

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you want is, well, your planet go bye bye. Biggie don't play games. Biggie is, again,

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don't hate the player. Hate the game. He's got to be fighting. He's fighting all four

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chaos gods at once simultaneously. He's having to defend every domain in the galaxy simultaneously.

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Bra has been sat on a throne, saving off hell for 10,000 years. And he's like, I ain't going

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crazy. I'm doing a good enough job. I'm basically, you know, my resolve is so strong that I'm

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rotting on a throne and I'm in constant pain, like the worst pain imaginable as my physical

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form slowly deteriorates. I'm not complaining. I'm doing my job. Yeah. Put Franz on that

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throne for five seconds. He cried like a baby. Oh, where's my helmet? Oh, I'm scared. I know

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this man is not is not insulting the castle helmet. So I have, I have one more defense

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for the window tax. If I may be allowed to speak a little out of turn. If we didn't get

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the window tax, then we wouldn't get the best book series in all of Warhammer. So, uh, yeah.

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Okay. All right. All right. Felix, if we don't tax the windows, which also means no thankful.

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True. Maybe. Well, or think, well, just wins. Okay. Oh, he doesn't. He's thankful. Yeah.

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It's true. Interesting answers from the two of you. Uh, we will move on to round two.

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All right. That's a three minutes long. Yeah. Yeah. Five, three, then two. Now, are you

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ready? Mr. Collin? I am. Okay. A three, a two, a one, a go. So I think I'll just start

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with like the very low hanging fruit. I'm currently looking at a picture of Carl Franz's

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family, which I would like to note. He made the traditional way as opposed to big E who

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had to scientifically and magically create his own kids because he can't get any bitches

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because they all left him like Erda who had the thought that, you know, what's better

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than letting this guy raise my kids, throwing them into hell. You know, who didn't have

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that thought Carl Franz's wife. You know, let's move on from that. Let me just, let

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me just break out probably the single greatest win I can ever get in this argument. It's

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not fully painted. You can hit the gritty right now, Trapp. He's in prime gritty. You

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know what this is? You know what the emperor of mankind doesn't have the Carl Franz does?

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An official model that, like I said, not fully painted, but very curious. I can use Carl

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Franz in the tabletop. Can't use big E. So he's already infinitely more relevant than

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the emperor ever will be because you can use them on the tabletop. You can use this emperor

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on the tabletop. How about I address some other stuff. First of all, you said it's an

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argument over being the emperor. It's real interesting because one, big E didn't want

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to be emperor. It was Malkador who told him to take on, you know, the emperor of mankind

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dole mantle. Also didn't want to be a god. How's that working out for you asshole? Nothing

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like that level of denial. But how about, let's see what Carl Franz is as emperor. You

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know, window tacks, I get a bit of an iffy, but it is something that was decreed by the

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emperor. He's worked with the elector counts. He's done all sorts of stuff. What are big

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E's act as the emperor? He's done two in like what? The 500 years he was the emperor, however

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long the great crusade lasted. He gives rogue traders their edicts, like the writs of trade,

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and the council of Nikea. That's 500 years of being an emperor to do two things because

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in every other way he hasn't been an emperor. He doesn't lead. He leads armies, but you

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don't need to be an emperor to do that. You're just a warlord, which I got to tell you, there

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were a whole lot of those in Warhammer. But I also quite like, I'm glad you brought up

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a, you know, Carl Franz needing allies and stuff to conquer. Because one, you'll notice

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the emperor couldn't even conquer Terra on his own with normal humans. He had to make

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the thunder warriors and then the space marines. So the emperor couldn't do it with normal

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people either. In fact, he couldn't create an imperium without super soldiers. Carl Franz

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defends his empire with normal people, face steel and gunpowder, which curiously the emperor

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couldn't quite manage. But going forward, fun thing, you know, he conquered the galaxy.

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Great. Well, again, with those 20, 21, 19, 18, nine, whatever number you want to throw

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out, depending on which propaganda you're reading, all his kids, which he had to make

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scientifically with, you know, BS, whatever. That's great. You rule the galaxy. What happens

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then? Oh, nine of your kids betray you.

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Your three minutes is up, Mr. Colin. I did not give you a warning. I was too enthralled.

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The emperor's fruit, the emperor sure sowed and then he had to reap.

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All right, Andy, are you ready for your, for your rebuttal?

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Just a second. I'm trying to make notes. Okay. Yes, I'm ready.

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Three, two, one, go. Okay. So it shouldn't really need to be said,

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but comparing the exploits of Carl Franz to the emperor is like comparing a kid with matches

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to a fireworks display. Archeon is a baby as far as chaos champions go. Abba has been fighting

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for 10,000 years. He's had 13 black crusades, galaxy spanning, and he's a thorn in the side

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of the emperor. If, if Biggie had to fight Archeon, he'd just be like, all right, he's

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gone moving on. Carl Franz is like the William Shakespeare of 40K. Everyone loves his works.

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No one gives a shit about any of his kids. Do you know any of the kids of Shakespeare?

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He had them. Do you know their names? Do you know their deeds? No, because they were irrelevant

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because he overshadowed his children's deeds. Whereas Rabute-Gilliman, who might I add Colin

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is a big fan of and the ultraman, big fan. You don't have ultraman or Rabute-Gilliman

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without Dada, without Biggie himself. Everything you love about Rabute or any of the other

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characters in that kind of vein, they're a fragment of the emperor. They're a piece of

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him. That's like a little, little, little, little, little, little slice of the big wheel

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of cheese that is the emperor. Oh, Parmigiano. Belldente. Throwing your kids into hell is

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like the ultimate boarding school. I will not have any bad words said about Erda. It's

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a valid strategy to build character for your kids. I'm just saying Lion turned out fine.

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Jaggedeye turned out fine. Gilliman turned out fine. Sangunius turned out fine. Ferris

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turned out fine. Vulcan turned out fine. It's endless. Angron turned out fine. Don't ask

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me. Also, Biggie doesn't have a miniature because if you made a miniature officially

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for GW, you'd put him on the board and then your opponent go, oh no, I lost. Like you

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wouldn't even have to make a move. You'd just be like, Biggie, oh, it's like putting a level

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100 Mewtwo against a level one Bidoof. It wouldn't work. It just doesn't happen. Nothing

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would work. Biggie isn't just a warrior. He's a statesman. He's a conqueror. He's a scientist.

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He's a diplomat. He's a sorcerer. Every conceivable thing. And we know from the millennia he lived,

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it's described he was a sailor. He was a scientist. He was a coward. He was a politician. He was

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a warrior. He wore many faces and he projected himself in many different ways so he could

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be every type of person. And that's why he was the only person who could say, I know

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what to do to preserve humanity because everyone else doesn't have my lived experience. Because

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let's face it, 1v1, Franz versus the emperor, irrespective of who could win the fight. Doesn't

433
00:29:16,660 --> 00:29:23,120
matter. Even if Karl Franz won. Emperor's a perpetual baby. He'll get back him and kick

434
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:28,060
your ass. Doesn't matter if Karl Franz won, which he wouldn't anyway. But even if he did,

435
00:29:28,060 --> 00:29:32,020
it's like, I'm ready for round two. And Karl Franz is like, ugh. And then Biggie is literally

436
00:29:32,020 --> 00:29:35,980
the southwark meme. I ain't hear no bell. And he just come in and beat the shit out

437
00:29:35,980 --> 00:29:41,980
of you. Yeah. I was going to say that I'm probably done with my time. So I'll forfeit

438
00:29:41,980 --> 00:29:42,980
a few seconds.

439
00:29:42,980 --> 00:29:43,980
Okay. Very nice. Very nice.

440
00:29:43,980 --> 00:29:44,980
Engron turned out fine.

441
00:29:44,980 --> 00:29:45,980
That is a crazy thing to say.

442
00:29:45,980 --> 00:29:46,980
He did.

443
00:29:46,980 --> 00:29:47,980
He was fine until he was counted.

444
00:29:47,980 --> 00:29:48,980
The lion turned out fine. Brother is the prime archer.

445
00:29:48,980 --> 00:29:56,860
There's nothing wrong with autism.

446
00:29:56,860 --> 00:30:00,900
There's not. I think I have it.

447
00:30:00,900 --> 00:30:06,900
I'm just saying, lion does what he does best and I love him for it. It's like, yeah, Charles

448
00:30:06,900 --> 00:30:12,340
dance in space. Yes, please. Just saying. Also, I don't appreciate this comment from

449
00:30:12,340 --> 00:30:19,340
Maine saying, why does Andy? That is horrid. You take that back. That is we're having a

450
00:30:19,340 --> 00:30:20,340
debate, not a.

451
00:30:20,340 --> 00:30:24,980
I must admit today for some reason I saw the recent some of the crypto stuff that's been

452
00:30:24,980 --> 00:30:29,740
going on. I was like, we should do like a trailer for our merch being like introducing

453
00:30:29,740 --> 00:30:34,860
law tokens and then be like, only kidding. We're not scumbags. Buy our t shirts instead.

454
00:30:34,860 --> 00:30:44,780
I mean, you've got the you've got the little tokens. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. But no,

455
00:30:44,780 --> 00:30:48,620
just because I'm wearing a turtleneck, it's winter. Leave me alone. I don't look French

456
00:30:48,620 --> 00:30:56,700
D-Day Beast. How dare you? I'm not French. Wow. Wow. Oh, my God. Eli, what's your thoughts?

457
00:30:56,700 --> 00:31:02,740
That was an interesting round. There's a lot of the the it's closer. It's a lot closer

458
00:31:02,740 --> 00:31:10,220
now than it was last round. I'm just going to say that I've been keeping score. Oh, wow.

459
00:31:10,220 --> 00:31:15,980
Should we read out some donors? We'll get to the very well. And it'll be different for

460
00:31:15,980 --> 00:31:21,500
the next round. But any any points that are centered around spite towards the other party

461
00:31:21,500 --> 00:31:30,820
have not contributed any points. I got no points. Oh, no points. No one got any points.

462
00:31:30,820 --> 00:31:35,700
We all lose to me. I will say Andy second round was substantially better than his first

463
00:31:35,700 --> 00:31:42,100
round actually. Brothers said anger on turn. Well, he said some other things that were

464
00:31:42,100 --> 00:31:49,020
all I'm saying, Colin, his demon Primark miniatures pretty base. It is pretty cool. Exactly my

465
00:31:49,020 --> 00:31:53,740
point. He did what he needed to do, which was to be a failure. And at least as being

466
00:31:53,740 --> 00:31:58,940
a failure goes, he was the best actor. And he's going to lose points if he keeps talking.

467
00:31:58,940 --> 00:32:08,300
He does not deserve this. Anyway, donate. OK. All right. Raw 666 donated $10. Why are

468
00:32:08,300 --> 00:32:12,420
you arguing the emperor is not an emperor and screwed it from Briff with his sons and

469
00:32:12,420 --> 00:32:16,060
his poor design. Carl got a damaged empire work to make it better and succeed, which

470
00:32:16,060 --> 00:32:24,020
is more impressive. Is it though? It's just like it's just like, oh, it's like tiny spec

471
00:32:24,020 --> 00:32:32,740
on a planet that it's just one planet. We see Carl Carl Franz in here, folks, think

472
00:32:32,740 --> 00:32:38,540
for the two years or pounds. I never remember which one Carl Carl Franz would have 20 loyal

473
00:32:38,540 --> 00:32:46,940
Primarks. That's pretty true. Yeah. 21 document USA. Thank you for the two Collins window

474
00:32:46,940 --> 00:32:52,660
tax arguments sealed the deal. I gave you three explanations and only one of them was

475
00:32:52,660 --> 00:33:00,900
meta bullshit, but it's good meta bullshit because it's got to get Felix. Nolan Baker

476
00:33:00,900 --> 00:33:07,860
for five CA, I guess, Canadian dollars. Canadian dollars. Canaly, Canada. It's too late for

477
00:33:07,860 --> 00:33:12,820
you, shiny witch king. I've drawn you as the skeletal steel and me as the power stance

478
00:33:12,820 --> 00:33:20,860
hammer holding Chad. We've been period. Glorious. Need document USA thing with the five dollars

479
00:33:20,860 --> 00:33:26,180
and I did not kill them as bullshit. I did. I did kill them. I did not. Oh, hi, Malkadar.

480
00:33:26,180 --> 00:33:31,980
I did impression please. I did impression please. Yes, I did not kill them. It's bullshit.

481
00:33:31,980 --> 00:33:42,020
I did kill them. I did not. Oh, hi, Malkadar. I love the Thunder Warriors. Main event Virgil

482
00:33:42,020 --> 00:33:47,900
shout out. Hello, friend. Think of the five and that one's pounds this time. All right.

483
00:33:47,900 --> 00:33:53,660
Euros. Okay. Oh my gosh. All right. Almost like an E if you squint. The thing about this

484
00:33:53,660 --> 00:33:59,220
rate euros. What is this one? It looks like a comb for your hair. Whereas it has a little

485
00:33:59,220 --> 00:34:03,860
tail. No, the pound looks like an L because we take an L every time we have to order from

486
00:34:03,860 --> 00:34:10,140
games workshop. All right. Well, later, Virgil, thank you for the five. I could have gone

487
00:34:10,140 --> 00:34:14,820
to my work Christmas party, but I'm here instead. Honestly, respectable. I don't know if that

488
00:34:14,820 --> 00:34:21,420
speaks positively of you or more likely negative of me. It depends on where you work, I guess.

489
00:34:21,420 --> 00:34:25,660
Yeah. Well, I'm just going to put it out there. I don't care where you work. This is where

490
00:34:25,660 --> 00:34:30,260
it's at. This is where the cool kids sit. Although my old job, their work party was

491
00:34:30,260 --> 00:34:36,740
Chinese food. So that's pretty hard to pass up. I'm not going to lie.

492
00:34:36,740 --> 00:34:41,700
I used to work as an engineer in a hospital. That was fun. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I worked at

493
00:34:41,700 --> 00:34:47,020
a factory. That was a bit more fun. You ever take apart a suction machine that's full of

494
00:34:47,020 --> 00:34:53,700
oil and several people saliva? Oh, gosh. That's fun. All right. I was an engineer in a church,

495
00:34:53,700 --> 00:34:58,780
which on most days was pretty slow and I would usually have some time to myself because there's

496
00:34:58,780 --> 00:35:05,260
only so many times you can mop the pews. On the other hand-

497
00:35:05,260 --> 00:35:09,060
I just want to say mop the pews sounds like a euphemism to me. I don't know why. Probably

498
00:35:09,060 --> 00:35:15,460
because of what they do to the altar boys in the back. But the days I had to clean up

499
00:35:15,460 --> 00:35:22,780
human feces from the bathroom was significantly less fun. That was-

500
00:35:22,780 --> 00:35:24,980
There were many of those at the movie theater as well.

501
00:35:24,980 --> 00:35:31,260
Oh, yeah. I bet. Somehow, the bathrooms when I worked at Dairy Queen, pretty clean at the

502
00:35:31,260 --> 00:35:37,780
Dairy Queen. But the church, the house of God, toilet paper everywhere, sometimes feces

503
00:35:37,780 --> 00:35:42,780
everywhere. I suppose Dairy Queen, there's a monarchics. It's like, hey, the only people

504
00:35:42,780 --> 00:35:48,420
that dine here are kings and queens. It's like, you've got to be respectable. I appreciate

505
00:35:48,420 --> 00:35:53,660
you. Also, if I'm at a Dairy Queen, I'm not going to use the bathroom. Very fair, which

506
00:35:53,660 --> 00:35:56,940
probably contributed to that. Also, Andy, I'm going to be honest. I don't think the

507
00:35:56,940 --> 00:36:01,100
guy who told me to call my coworker a slur because it took him a while to get his food

508
00:36:01,100 --> 00:36:08,100
to come. I do not think that man was a king. I think that man has come unresolved.

509
00:36:08,100 --> 00:36:12,100
He's a Burger King. He's a Burger King.

510
00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:20,340
As a Brit, I just got to ask though, is a Dairy Queen like a milkshake place?

511
00:36:20,340 --> 00:36:25,980
It's mostly like ice cream, shake, stuff like that. If you're this man and you order six

512
00:36:25,980 --> 00:36:31,220
meals when there's a McDonald's across the street, then yes, no, it's not an ice cream

513
00:36:31,220 --> 00:36:35,060
shop. I don't think I count that man as a human being.

514
00:36:35,060 --> 00:36:40,540
Dairy Queen's chicken fingers used to be goated. They were like this big and now they are literally

515
00:36:40,540 --> 00:36:43,780
this big and the same price, but not more expensive. I never buy fast food.

516
00:36:43,780 --> 00:36:47,900
McDonald's is right across the street. If you want food, why are you coming to the Dairy

517
00:36:47,900 --> 00:36:52,180
Queen? Get ice cream. That's what we're here for.

518
00:36:52,180 --> 00:36:54,460
Is it true that White Castle is pretty good?

519
00:36:54,460 --> 00:37:01,660
White Castle is perfect in the scenario that it's two in the morning and you're shit face.

520
00:37:01,660 --> 00:37:08,060
One other thing I've heard of the, I've seen the memes on like social media of White Castle

521
00:37:08,060 --> 00:37:12,660
at 3 a.m. to stay with the binoculars. Looking at what's happening.

522
00:37:12,660 --> 00:37:17,300
It's great all around because you have to stutter out to the person you order after

523
00:37:17,300 --> 00:37:22,600
you're like 12 beers deep, which is quite difficult. But the bright side is whatever

524
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:28,060
you tell them, whatever food you get, you're just happy to have some White Castles. So

525
00:37:28,060 --> 00:37:31,300
it doesn't matter if your order is correct or not.

526
00:37:31,300 --> 00:37:39,220
Very nice. Maybe we should save the password talk for later though. I will say one thing

527
00:37:39,220 --> 00:37:44,540
though. I'm pretty sure because Dairy Queen's ice cream product is so far off from being

528
00:37:44,540 --> 00:37:47,780
real ice cream, they can't legally call it ice cream, which is why it has other names.

529
00:37:47,780 --> 00:37:54,900
Yeah, that's why it's like flurries and blizzards and stuff. I worked there because I was 16

530
00:37:54,900 --> 00:38:00,940
and I didn't work there because I wanted to join the Dairy Queen family.

531
00:38:00,940 --> 00:38:07,780
Eat my malleable dairy like Greece.

532
00:38:07,780 --> 00:38:12,300
Most least processed American food. Oh my gosh.

533
00:38:12,300 --> 00:38:18,260
Okay, all right. I need to ask you fellas some questions. Actually, we have some more

534
00:38:18,260 --> 00:38:21,180
donations. Why don't you guys read those up? I told the chat to post some questions and

535
00:38:21,180 --> 00:38:22,180
we'll see if they did.

536
00:38:22,180 --> 00:38:23,180
Okay.

537
00:38:23,180 --> 00:38:27,980
Okay. I see you doing it too in the chat. Thanks, Mike.

538
00:38:27,980 --> 00:38:39,540
Gammoth draws with the $2. Thank you. Alterboy, he priest mopped my pew till I pray.

539
00:38:39,540 --> 00:38:45,620
I did start that. Donkeyman USA, thank you for the five again. Oh God, Colin, you worked

540
00:38:45,620 --> 00:38:50,220
at Dairy Queen too? I'm glad you were with my suffering. Worst part of high school in

541
00:38:50,220 --> 00:38:55,700
college for me. I learned just how much of a psychopath I was there. Yeah, you learn

542
00:38:55,700 --> 00:38:59,860
pretty quickly if you can deal with the public or not. You know, some countries have like

543
00:38:59,860 --> 00:39:04,900
mandatory military service. I'm taking this from Mandalore gaming, but there should absolutely

544
00:39:04,900 --> 00:39:12,260
be a one year mandatory retail like spend. Yeah, well, I suppose like you can already

545
00:39:12,260 --> 00:39:18,820
buy guns and jobs. This is like, you already covered that just retail. No, you will treat

546
00:39:18,820 --> 00:39:23,540
people differently if you work in the service industry. I swear to God. Yeah. Especially

547
00:39:23,540 --> 00:39:28,460
if you learn like a certain amount of money. If you're like an FAA baby, it's like if your

548
00:39:28,460 --> 00:39:32,700
parents own this much, you have to work at like Walmart or something similar for at least

549
00:39:32,700 --> 00:39:40,460
a year just to get character. You need to appreciate what the dollar is. Oh, yeah. Oh,

550
00:39:40,460 --> 00:39:47,660
and coming back up here is, um, Carl wins. Thank you for the 15 shekels. Carl wins because

551
00:39:47,660 --> 00:39:51,580
his window tax is the reason got you can Felix medley and got you becoming a true hero even

552
00:39:51,580 --> 00:39:54,260
than in the times of the age of Sigmar.

553
00:39:54,260 --> 00:40:11,780
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. And $20 biased biased biased among us. I read among us exterior

554
00:40:11,780 --> 00:40:16,900
exterior was exterior. I know that our weeds here among us. The emperor has children named

555
00:40:16,900 --> 00:40:22,100
the sensei or sensei. He can get laid. He can. If anybody says anything about his current

556
00:40:22,100 --> 00:40:31,260
state, bring up Collins. Oh, no. Wow. Well, thank you for the $20 for saying that. We

557
00:40:31,260 --> 00:40:40,460
don't know if we can't make that jump. None of you need to know my sexual history. All

558
00:40:40,460 --> 00:40:46,380
I'm saying is that every time I see one of the poppers on the bed, it brings me joy.

559
00:40:46,380 --> 00:40:52,140
So I will not hear a bad word about Collins bed, even if it's on me. It is often the layer

560
00:40:52,140 --> 00:40:59,420
of poppers and they're cute. How dare you for having a go anyway. Ross 6 6 equal to

561
00:40:59,420 --> 00:41:05,420
five. Thank you very much. Emperor. If every Oh God, Eli, I think he's got some questions

562
00:41:05,420 --> 00:41:12,380
for you. Oh, interesting. All right. If everything is to plan, then why put yourself on the throne?

563
00:41:12,380 --> 00:41:17,740
Carl, why do you tolerate Bretonnia? You guys can both answer that. Andy, would you like

564
00:41:17,740 --> 00:41:21,980
to go first since you were up in the order? So if everything is planned, then why put

565
00:41:21,980 --> 00:41:27,660
yourself on the throne? Is that the I believe I believe that was his question. Yeah. Well,

566
00:41:27,660 --> 00:41:33,620
put it this way. No one else can do it. If you go step up to the plate and everyone else

567
00:41:33,620 --> 00:41:40,260
is a bitch ass, you know, weak psycho or don't even have psychic powers. I guess. Here we

568
00:41:40,260 --> 00:41:46,020
go again. I guess I'll do it myself. Ignore that a week. Ignore that Magnus was made to

569
00:41:46,020 --> 00:41:52,700
put on the throne, but Magnus is a nerd. And even even our good friend Al had the writer

570
00:41:52,700 --> 00:41:58,780
for the Thousand Sons books, Graham McNeil, on his show. And he said himself, and I quote,

571
00:41:58,780 --> 00:42:04,260
did Magnus do anything wrong? And Graham said yes. The guy who wrote the Thousand Sons book

572
00:42:04,260 --> 00:42:12,060
said yes. Let's put this to bed. No more comments. Did Magnus do it? Yes. Yes, he did. Crazy.

573
00:42:12,060 --> 00:42:20,380
Who made me pull that up? Pull that up. Let me let me just you know, before I answer that

574
00:42:20,380 --> 00:42:26,900
next one recharge. I'll read it out then. So main main event Virgil five euros. I worked

575
00:42:26,900 --> 00:42:31,460
in customer service. I have my question. And did you son of a bitch? Oh, sorry. Sorry.

576
00:42:31,460 --> 00:42:38,980
We'll still read your, don't know, don't worry. We will. How do we tell how does Carl tolerate

577
00:42:38,980 --> 00:42:43,900
Bertonia? Why does he? Because as much as you know, Bertonia is a vile scum of, you

578
00:42:43,900 --> 00:42:50,100
know, a vile den of scum and villainy and makes Moss Isley look like fucking the Garden

579
00:42:50,100 --> 00:42:57,180
of Eden. Okay. Carl knows that he's allies in the world he lives in, which again, to

580
00:42:57,180 --> 00:43:00,540
my point before, you know, I ran out of time, but because this is a really good question,

581
00:43:00,540 --> 00:43:05,980
I cannot answer again properly here. Carl knows let's say worst case scenario, which

582
00:43:05,980 --> 00:43:10,880
never happened, but let's say it did. And Empire. All right, fuck off. That was games

583
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:19,660
workshop not to let's say games workshop gave us Empire of man, the Horus heresy, you know,

584
00:43:19,660 --> 00:43:25,380
equivalent. That sucks. Carl has allies to call upon. He can call the Bretonians, he

585
00:43:25,380 --> 00:43:32,420
can call Kislev, he can call Talaiya, Estalia. The Emperor had a, oh, the people already

586
00:43:32,420 --> 00:43:37,460
in his empire to call upon, half of which turned against him. So why does he tolerate

587
00:43:37,460 --> 00:43:43,900
Bertonia? Because even though some of your allies might suck in the world of Warhammer,

588
00:43:43,900 --> 00:43:48,220
you need what you can get. And you know what? I'll give Bertonia their credit. I'm so determined

589
00:43:48,220 --> 00:43:52,300
to win this. I'll give Bertonia some credit. You do not want to be in front of a cavalry

590
00:43:52,300 --> 00:43:59,140
charge they're doing. They may only have one thing. I'll give them credit. They do, they

591
00:43:59,140 --> 00:44:05,100
ride horses real good. Unfortunately, they ride them also in the wrong way. But you know,

592
00:44:05,100 --> 00:44:07,100
we don't need to discuss that too much.

593
00:44:07,100 --> 00:44:14,460
Interesting. That was a good answer. Okay, I'm gonna read Maedevan Virgil's Fiver. Thank

594
00:44:14,460 --> 00:44:18,540
you very much again. I worked in customer service and whenever white American woman

595
00:44:18,540 --> 00:44:24,780
called in, I'd play up the Irish accent. They love that she's, I live here, but I'm Pakistani.

596
00:44:24,780 --> 00:44:30,780
Well, nice. Very fun. I've actually had very few bad experiences in my customer service.

597
00:44:30,780 --> 00:44:33,900
And working for like five years, I worked at the movie theater. I don't think anyone

598
00:44:33,900 --> 00:44:34,900
ever yelled at me.

599
00:44:34,900 --> 00:44:39,300
Most of mine weren't too bad. But it was again, when the guy says, hey, call your coworker

600
00:44:39,300 --> 00:44:44,300
a slur. It's kind of hard for them to take your image of your job.

601
00:44:44,300 --> 00:44:48,700
Oh gosh, Tom Warren, thank you for the two. Maynard does suck. I hope his parents are

602
00:44:48,700 --> 00:44:54,580
ashamed. I think they are. My brother. Morningstar, cool PFP. Thank you for the five dollars.

603
00:44:54,580 --> 00:44:59,760
I only recently watched the Ogres fireside episode. But what I want to ask if you guys

604
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:05,500
are still doing beginner to expert kids. What does this mean? What's this iceberg vids now?

605
00:45:05,500 --> 00:45:07,780
Yeah, iceberg and beginner to expert are the same thing.

606
00:45:07,780 --> 00:45:12,500
Yeah, it's basically when we moved to live versions of beginner to expert, but it was

607
00:45:12,500 --> 00:45:14,500
like, let's do it in a live format.

608
00:45:14,500 --> 00:45:23,980
It's a rebrand. Yeah, but it's the same thing. It's still us going from easy to deep to middle

609
00:45:23,980 --> 00:45:30,380
all over the place, depending on who's doing it.

610
00:45:30,380 --> 00:45:34,660
Usually torturing Colin by going, hey, we're talking about another great crusade episode.

611
00:45:34,660 --> 00:45:36,660
And then he's like,

612
00:45:36,660 --> 00:45:41,260
Look, I said, I'm not going to open every horse heresy now by complaining about it.

613
00:45:41,260 --> 00:45:46,060
I will still criticize when a stupid thing happens. I think that's fair, but I'm not

614
00:45:46,060 --> 00:45:47,980
going to start with complaining.

615
00:45:47,980 --> 00:45:52,840
And once I've read dark health books, vampire books, I'll fight for a vampires and dark

616
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,340
health beginner to expert iceberg, whatever.

617
00:45:55,340 --> 00:46:02,460
Let's be honest, a lot of the horse heresy just are not good books. Not all of it. Even

618
00:46:02,460 --> 00:46:03,460
I admit.

619
00:46:03,460 --> 00:46:08,220
Like the trouble is some are bad books and some are anthologies. And even when the anthologies

620
00:46:08,220 --> 00:46:12,980
are good, they're like a good like quarter of the books. So when you think about it,

621
00:46:12,980 --> 00:46:17,900
that 54 books realistically becomes like 40 something. You take out the salamanders books

622
00:46:17,900 --> 00:46:19,900
because they are trash.

623
00:46:19,900 --> 00:46:24,460
Like Bertie, there's some great books. And then like even the great books where it's

624
00:46:24,460 --> 00:46:30,540
like, Oh my god, Shadrach Medusen is awesome. Oh, no. And then it's like, oh, no more of

625
00:46:30,540 --> 00:46:33,220
him, I guess. That's a shame.

626
00:46:33,220 --> 00:46:39,660
Look, it's just again, I am sorry. I'm sure he's a nice guy. But when we get to the part

627
00:46:39,660 --> 00:46:45,460
of the horse heresy where Nick Kym is leading the charge, I can't in good conscience say

628
00:46:45,460 --> 00:46:46,460
that.

629
00:46:46,460 --> 00:46:52,380
All I'm saying, I've just done my Siege of Terror script, and there were a couple of

630
00:46:52,380 --> 00:46:58,420
space walls and salamanders and iron hands. None of them made the script because they're

631
00:46:58,420 --> 00:47:02,100
they're literally in the book for a sentence because they're like they're not in void at

632
00:47:02,100 --> 00:47:07,780
that point. Like the the culmination of the series is like two matters, traitors and blood

633
00:47:07,780 --> 00:47:12,820
angels, white scars and imperial fists. A couple of dark angels. Cool.

634
00:47:12,820 --> 00:47:19,100
Well, it also has the issue where the first like five books are written like they're supposed

635
00:47:19,100 --> 00:47:23,660
to be the only books. And then all of a sudden it drags out for 50 more books after half

636
00:47:23,660 --> 00:47:26,400
of the story line is finished in the first five books.

637
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,940
Even like the descent of angels is like a prequel to the horror heresy. So it's not

638
00:47:29,940 --> 00:47:34,180
even based in the horror heresy. It's it's Caliban stuff, you know, huh? And it's very

639
00:47:34,180 --> 00:47:35,180
confusing.

640
00:47:35,180 --> 00:47:39,500
And if you're one of the legions in the first five books, your fall is one book instead

641
00:47:39,500 --> 00:47:44,340
of 10. So it happens drastically and suddenly with poor plot devices looking at you full

642
00:47:44,340 --> 00:47:48,940
room. But you know, it's still a good book still but the layer blade is stupid. Layer

643
00:47:48,940 --> 00:47:54,820
blade is so stupid. Okay, we got like we got to get back on track. So we are so off. Yeah,

644
00:47:54,820 --> 00:47:59,900
I do. I'll ask my own questions. I might ask Colin too, because my questions are bad, because

645
00:47:59,900 --> 00:48:04,460
my empire lords mid and there's 1 million questions I can ask Andy because the Emperor

646
00:48:04,460 --> 00:48:10,660
does kind of suck a lot of the time. But I'll say, sorry, Andy, again, I want you to know

647
00:48:10,660 --> 00:48:17,660
I did not pay him before. There was no favors exchanged. This is this is all him.

648
00:48:17,660 --> 00:48:27,620
Okay, well, call it. First question. Why would I start with? How does Karl Franz solve your

649
00:48:27,620 --> 00:48:31,220
blatant lie broke my camera?

650
00:48:31,220 --> 00:48:34,900
Oh, screw it.

651
00:48:34,900 --> 00:48:40,260
How does Karl Franz address the Middenland problem? Is that the right the right? Marion

652
00:48:40,260 --> 00:48:45,140
Berg, Marion Berg, not middle. Marion Berg. Well, part of the empire.

653
00:48:45,140 --> 00:48:49,980
That was a that was an inherited issue due to a former emperor who was, you know, I'm

654
00:48:49,980 --> 00:48:57,180
not gonna lie resoundingly incompetent. As for him addressing it, diplomatic avenues,

655
00:48:57,180 --> 00:49:01,940
he's not going to charge into Marion Berg, you know, dicks swinging, firing away. He

656
00:49:01,940 --> 00:49:07,100
could, but he knows it's not worth it for a variety of reasons. So diplomatic ties and

657
00:49:07,100 --> 00:49:11,820
trade ties, you'll notice Marion Berg's, you know, ports still flow right into the

658
00:49:11,820 --> 00:49:18,620
empire through the River Reich and you know, over land routes. So he's, he's treating

659
00:49:18,620 --> 00:49:24,880
them as a separate entity. I'm sure you know, there would be motions suddenly put into method,

660
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:30,160
because Karl is again, he does dirty things if he needs to. If he needs to, I would like

661
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:35,460
to add, if he sees a route that might get Marion Berg back into the empire, that's

662
00:49:35,460 --> 00:49:40,540
a little bit less than clean. I'd say he might take it. But for the most part, he's just

663
00:49:40,540 --> 00:49:50,740
gonna take the wealth, the trade with Marion Berg Cruz and use it to improve the empire.

664
00:49:50,740 --> 00:49:55,940
You have a previous emperor. What's the point?

665
00:49:55,940 --> 00:50:01,020
Unfortunately, not all of us can, you know, die, but the message doesn't stick because

666
00:50:01,020 --> 00:50:02,820
we can't even die, right?

667
00:50:02,820 --> 00:50:05,140
Sounds like a skill issue to me.

668
00:50:05,140 --> 00:50:08,660
Yeah, I'm a guy who doesn't know how to die and respawn.

669
00:50:08,660 --> 00:50:14,460
All right. Next question. Can you address the allegations that Mr. Karl Franz actually

670
00:50:14,460 --> 00:50:19,220
not part of the Holy Akubian bloodline of the emperors and that that bloodline actually

671
00:50:19,220 --> 00:50:22,340
belongs to Vlad von Karstein and his children?

672
00:50:22,340 --> 00:50:26,420
I think there's no way I can address that allegation without getting lore crimes taken

673
00:50:26,420 --> 00:50:30,780
down. So I'm going to respectfully pass on that one.

674
00:50:30,780 --> 00:50:36,820
Interesting. And lastly, when I play Total War, if I'm the prince and emperor, why doesn't

675
00:50:36,820 --> 00:50:41,060
the Empire respect my authority? Why is everyone so mean to me?

676
00:50:41,060 --> 00:50:44,340
Because if it was lore accurate Karl Franz, the game would be too easy. It would start

677
00:50:44,340 --> 00:50:48,020
with, oh, by the way, the Empire is going to sweep through the entire goddamn planet

678
00:50:48,020 --> 00:50:53,340
now. So it's to give you some challenge and to really make you appreciate that Karl Franz

679
00:50:53,340 --> 00:50:56,140
is putting in hard work to keep the Empire afloat, which he does.

680
00:50:56,140 --> 00:51:00,620
So you're telling me it's not lore accurate? If it was lore accurate, they'd all be my

681
00:51:00,620 --> 00:51:03,460
friend? They'd all respect the authority of Karl Franz?

682
00:51:03,460 --> 00:51:07,020
They would respect the authority. They might not all be your friend because Boris Toddbringer

683
00:51:07,020 --> 00:51:08,020
is a cunt.

684
00:51:08,020 --> 00:51:11,860
Hey, don't talk about Alex Jones like that.

685
00:51:11,860 --> 00:51:17,540
I'm just saying that. What was the company that makes Total War?

686
00:51:17,540 --> 00:51:18,540
Creative Assembly.

687
00:51:18,540 --> 00:51:25,220
So, yeah, that's the one. Creative Assembly basically just said, oh, you know, we can't

688
00:51:25,220 --> 00:51:33,060
make Karl Franz look too cool because, you know, Creative Assembly wouldn't make a Total

689
00:51:33,060 --> 00:51:37,340
War 40k game with the Emperor because they would know not to touch that territory. No,

690
00:51:37,340 --> 00:51:39,900
that's Sacrosanct. That seems like a skill issue to me.

691
00:51:39,900 --> 00:51:40,900
Sacrosanct, yeah.

692
00:51:40,900 --> 00:51:42,420
This character is so meh.

693
00:51:42,420 --> 00:51:48,540
What I'm hearing is if slash when we get Total War 40k, there's a legendary Lord Karl Franz,

694
00:51:48,540 --> 00:51:52,000
but there's not going to be a legendary Lord Emperor of mankind. It's a very interesting

695
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,060
point you bring up, Andy. It's very interesting.

696
00:51:55,060 --> 00:51:59,020
I'm just saying in the confrontation with Horus in the Siege of Terra and the Medea

697
00:51:59,020 --> 00:52:03,940
Free, it's basically stated that the Emperor is cyclical with mankind. Mankind is the Emperor.

698
00:52:03,940 --> 00:52:09,660
The Emperor is mankind. They're like conjoined at the hip. They are one and the same. Karl

699
00:52:09,660 --> 00:52:16,820
Franz is appointed as the ruler of humanity. The Emperor is humanity.

700
00:52:16,820 --> 00:52:21,060
Isn't one of the biggest running themes in the Horus heresy that he's entirely disconnected?

701
00:52:21,060 --> 00:52:24,060
Be quiet, you. Be quiet.

702
00:52:24,060 --> 00:52:28,420
All right. This is when you learn that Colin doesn't read Horus heresy books in full, but

703
00:52:28,420 --> 00:52:30,180
he does read them.

704
00:52:30,180 --> 00:52:31,500
Be quiet, you. Shush.

705
00:52:31,500 --> 00:52:34,940
Andy, that moves to my question. A bit of a harder one, unfortunately, but I'm only

706
00:52:34,940 --> 00:52:41,540
asking you one. Can you address the allegations that the Horus heresy is entirely the Emperor's

707
00:52:41,540 --> 00:52:42,540
fault?

708
00:52:42,540 --> 00:52:43,540
No.

709
00:52:43,540 --> 00:52:44,540
Oh my gosh.

710
00:52:44,540 --> 00:52:49,500
You know what? I can't beat that as an argument.

711
00:52:49,500 --> 00:52:55,140
Chaos is a problem. It's chaos fault.

712
00:52:55,140 --> 00:52:59,860
Okay. Well, then can you address the allegations that the Emperor stole power from the Chaos

713
00:52:59,860 --> 00:53:01,940
Gods to make his children?

714
00:53:01,940 --> 00:53:09,300
Well, it's fine if you steal it for a good reason. I'm just saying, if you're going to

715
00:53:09,300 --> 00:53:15,500
steal something of limitless power, steal it from the guy next door who's really mean.

716
00:53:15,500 --> 00:53:22,020
That's like Robin Hood stuff right there. That's like, hey, this guy, he pees in communal

717
00:53:22,020 --> 00:53:28,060
drinking water places and he hits nuns and he's a really nasty person.

718
00:53:28,060 --> 00:53:29,060
Can you confirm?

719
00:53:29,060 --> 00:53:32,980
He's got bad names on Reddit. Steal from him. Go for it. Why not?

720
00:53:32,980 --> 00:53:37,700
Can you confirm that the Emperor essentially made a deal with Satan to make his children?

721
00:53:37,700 --> 00:53:43,020
No, he didn't make a deal with Satan. He said, oh, Satan, what's that over there? And Satan

722
00:53:43,020 --> 00:53:48,300
went, oh, that's like a really cool amount of power. But if anyone got that, that'd be

723
00:53:48,300 --> 00:53:52,500
really, really like make them hench. And he went, oh, cool. Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool.

724
00:53:52,500 --> 00:53:57,940
And then when Satan wasn't looking, he nicked it. That's a really cool thing. Bro knows

725
00:53:57,940 --> 00:54:01,940
what he wants and he gets it. And what do you want me to say? He did a good job. He

726
00:54:01,940 --> 00:54:02,940
did a good thing.

727
00:54:02,940 --> 00:54:05,140
All right. Okay.

728
00:54:05,140 --> 00:54:09,260
I propose, Andy, if we'd like to break with tradition a bit, if we could ask each other

729
00:54:09,260 --> 00:54:10,260
a question.

730
00:54:10,260 --> 00:54:11,260
Oh, okay.

731
00:54:11,260 --> 00:54:16,300
Would you, do you have one you'd like to ask me? Cause I do have one for you.

732
00:54:16,300 --> 00:54:20,220
Oh, go for yours. And I'll, I'll think of one as we do say.

733
00:54:20,220 --> 00:54:25,700
So supposedly the Emperor of mankind, the super charismatic fella, you know, he's, you

734
00:54:25,700 --> 00:54:30,540
know, he's supposed, you know, people just instinctively go with them because he's a

735
00:54:30,540 --> 00:54:38,140
God, right? How do you explain that when the Emperor wasn't using his charisma, the single

736
00:54:38,140 --> 00:54:42,740
best argument he could come up with was the differences I know I am right.

737
00:54:42,740 --> 00:54:49,020
Well, the thing was his, his deific persona really didn't coalesce until the end of the

738
00:54:49,020 --> 00:54:53,260
Horus heresy. There's a whole thing about the last three books where it's like, Hey,

739
00:54:53,260 --> 00:54:58,580
Malkadour was like, Oh, wait a minute in our, in our moment of direst need, people are praying

740
00:54:58,580 --> 00:55:04,060
to the Emperor. This is bad, but he's kind of preoccupied fending off all of hell in

741
00:55:04,060 --> 00:55:10,100
the throne room. That's bad. But because people are praying to him, he's now becoming a God

742
00:55:10,100 --> 00:55:13,660
in his own right, even though he doesn't want to, which actually gives credence to the idea

743
00:55:13,660 --> 00:55:17,540
that he was like, Hey, you shouldn't worship me. This is bad. And it's like, yeah. But

744
00:55:17,540 --> 00:55:22,660
even then, despite everything he did, people gone be people. They want to praise when they

745
00:55:22,660 --> 00:55:29,220
praise, they want to say hallelujah. Big Emperor of mankind. And like when people are knocking

746
00:55:29,220 --> 00:55:33,940
down the door, you'll, you'll, you'll go for anything you can get to try and escape the,

747
00:55:33,940 --> 00:55:34,940
the terror of chaos.

748
00:55:34,940 --> 00:55:40,100
I see that as well and good, but that didn't answer my question. It's how do you defend

749
00:55:40,100 --> 00:55:46,420
the fact that when he's not psychically brainwashing people, just listen to him. The best argument

750
00:55:46,420 --> 00:55:54,140
he can come up with as per the last church is dude, trust me. Well, the thing was he

751
00:55:54,140 --> 00:55:57,780
would have gotten away with it too. If it wasn't for that meddling Magnus, it was like,

752
00:55:57,780 --> 00:56:02,900
Hey, Magnus isn't involved yet. Magnus isn't born. I'm just saying before Magnus, he was

753
00:56:02,900 --> 00:56:09,340
about to quarterize chaos from like, he was going to literally cut chaos from humanity

754
00:56:09,340 --> 00:56:12,740
forever and be like, we're going to take the web way. We're going to travel through that.

755
00:56:12,740 --> 00:56:16,620
We're not going to have any problems. We'll have conquered all the galaxy. Like, kind

756
00:56:16,620 --> 00:56:19,300
of like with pharaohs, Spanish was like, I'm going to get rid of all these mechanical

757
00:56:19,300 --> 00:56:25,140
bits because it's cringe in truth. At the end of the day, he would have been like, right

758
00:56:25,140 --> 00:56:32,140
now we can exist in peace. We'll do our job. I was this close and then Magnus had to come

759
00:56:32,140 --> 00:56:36,660
around and do everything wrong as he always does, which is a thing that the brighter confirmed

760
00:56:36,660 --> 00:56:43,820
he did everything wrong all the time. It's not my fault. It's this meddling Cyclops fella.

761
00:56:43,820 --> 00:56:50,100
It's his fault. This is an interesting strategy to blame Magnus for something that happened

762
00:56:50,100 --> 00:57:00,580
before he was born. This is a new meta. Magnus was a primordial cringe lord. Even before

763
00:57:00,580 --> 00:57:05,780
he was born, he was cringe. He transcends cringe to before he was even born. Before

764
00:57:05,780 --> 00:57:13,380
he was a glimmer in the emperor's eye, he was cringe. That's my excuse. I've got to

765
00:57:13,380 --> 00:57:16,940
come out with a question. If you need a moment to cook, I do need to use the bathroom quite

766
00:57:16,940 --> 00:57:21,020
bad because my blood sugar is running high. Go back. Go back. Take all the time to cook

767
00:57:21,020 --> 00:57:26,940
you need because I got a pass. Okay. Okay.

768
00:57:26,940 --> 00:57:32,660
The Kotlin's right. Dota 2 from Mike once again. Dota 2 is going to happen, my brother.

769
00:57:32,660 --> 00:57:37,860
I haven't had time to stream in the last few days, unfortunately. Should we do our minute

770
00:57:37,860 --> 00:57:43,020
of hate? Yeah, let's do the versus. This is our longest versus yet. How's not here?

771
00:57:43,020 --> 00:57:46,780
It's two minutes of hate. Also, Andrew, did you have a question for me or did you want

772
00:57:46,780 --> 00:57:48,780
to move it on?

773
00:57:48,780 --> 00:57:56,100
I'll just go with something simple. Generally speaking, if you were to swap places with

774
00:57:56,100 --> 00:58:01,820
the emperor, with Karl Franz, do you honestly think Karl Franz could have done a better

775
00:58:01,820 --> 00:58:08,420
job with his current state? No psychic powers, no sword that quells demons, just like Karl

776
00:58:08,420 --> 00:58:14,220
Franz as he is in the 41st millennium. You can't put him on the golden throne. He has

777
00:58:14,220 --> 00:58:18,620
no psychic powers. Do you honestly think he could stop the Imperium from dying?

778
00:58:18,620 --> 00:58:23,340
I honestly think he wouldn't make the Imperium as it is. He wouldn't make the galaxy spanning

779
00:58:23,340 --> 00:58:29,340
crumbling empire that has no one to call on because it has no allies because it's all

780
00:58:29,340 --> 00:58:33,740
there is. I think he would take a much more reasonable approach than the emperor did,

781
00:58:33,740 --> 00:58:39,100
which in a rare moment, I will give the emperor some credit. With his limited foresight, he

782
00:58:39,100 --> 00:58:43,260
saw chaos was going to be a problem. He knew the orcs were getting stronger, but I think

783
00:58:43,260 --> 00:58:46,820
Karl Franz would have handled it in a better way. He would have made allies with people

784
00:58:46,820 --> 00:58:52,100
such as the Interrex who had great knowledge on chaos, but it wasn't what the emperor felt

785
00:58:52,100 --> 00:58:54,500
was best. So we had them glass like reach.

786
00:58:54,500 --> 00:58:58,140
Although to be fair, that wasn't the emperor. That was Horus.

787
00:58:58,140 --> 00:59:05,020
Yeah, that's fair. But it's with the emperor's policy. Horus wanted to talk to the Interrex.

788
00:59:05,020 --> 00:59:09,940
If I remember correctly, even Syngwinius, who's the poster boy of good boy Primarch,

789
00:59:09,940 --> 00:59:16,220
was like, you want to talk to them? But they're bad guys because dad said so. Whereas Karl

790
00:59:16,220 --> 00:59:21,340
Franz wouldn't put those policies into place. Any of the more pleasant xenos or other human

791
00:59:21,340 --> 00:59:26,180
factions of the great crusade would be around to offer aid and technology and help in their

792
00:59:26,180 --> 00:59:31,980
own ways. Whereas the emperor has the Imperium, and I will give him his credit. It's a galaxy-wide

793
00:59:31,980 --> 00:59:37,420
Imperium. But when it cracked in half, he had no one to turn to because all of his allies

794
00:59:37,420 --> 00:59:44,500
left and so did half his kids. I do think Karl would at least, he wouldn't make as big

795
00:59:44,500 --> 00:59:48,140
as an empire. I'll say that. I think he would make a better one.

796
00:59:48,140 --> 00:59:54,620
That's a good answer. I don't know. I don't know how his diplomacy would go with the Tyranids.

797
00:59:54,620 --> 01:00:00,700
Oh yeah, so mad at me. Although if we're gonna split hairs like that, he's got 10,000 years

798
01:00:00,700 --> 01:00:02,300
before he has to worry about those.

799
01:00:02,300 --> 01:00:06,580
He'd probably be better at making friends to fight against the Tyranids.

800
01:00:06,580 --> 01:00:11,340
I don't know, Necrons. I feel like Necrons just would be like, get away from me.

801
01:00:11,340 --> 01:00:16,380
I think if the Necrons made friends with Dante, they'd make friends with the prince and emperor.

802
01:00:16,380 --> 01:00:20,740
That's true. Okay, are we ready for our two minutes of hate?

803
01:00:20,740 --> 01:00:25,340
Andy, would you like to switch places or am I still going first?

804
01:00:25,340 --> 01:00:26,340
I'd like to keep to tradition.

805
01:00:26,340 --> 01:00:27,340
Okay, in that case.

806
01:00:27,340 --> 01:00:30,860
But to help, I will show my cringy frozen face.

807
01:00:30,860 --> 01:00:31,860
It's still stuck.

808
01:00:31,860 --> 01:00:37,140
Andy, it is still stuck on the same freeze frame from last time.

809
01:00:37,140 --> 01:00:39,940
I'm aware, but I'm gonna use this to help you.

810
01:00:39,940 --> 01:00:49,660
That's fair. All right. Let me raise a glass. This is not water. This is gonna hurt.

811
01:00:49,660 --> 01:00:50,660
It's warm now.

812
01:00:50,660 --> 01:00:53,660
Oh, God. Tito sucks.

813
01:00:53,660 --> 01:00:56,420
This guy's alcohol-maxxing right now.

814
01:00:56,420 --> 01:01:01,180
I need to get ready. And Eli, I do hope you forgive me. I will prove to you I'm doing

815
01:01:01,180 --> 01:01:04,300
it. A timer of my own.

816
01:01:04,300 --> 01:01:05,300
Wow.

817
01:01:05,300 --> 01:01:10,220
Is that quite okay? As you can see, it's down two minutes. Andy, do I have your consent

818
01:01:10,220 --> 01:01:12,220
for this as well?

819
01:01:12,220 --> 01:01:13,220
Yes.

820
01:01:13,220 --> 01:01:14,220
Okay.

821
01:01:14,220 --> 01:01:15,220
Okay.

822
01:01:15,220 --> 01:01:16,220
Interesting.

823
01:01:16,220 --> 01:01:20,220
Interesting.

824
01:01:20,220 --> 01:01:31,460
So, are you aware that we're talking about Carl fucking Franz? You know what you're talking

825
01:01:31,460 --> 01:01:32,460
about?

826
01:01:32,460 --> 01:01:36,180
Oh, I'm the Emperor Mankind. I got a fucking sword. You know what says a sword? Every loser

827
01:01:36,180 --> 01:01:40,580
in fucking history. Oh, I got a sword. I'm Charlemagne. Oh, I'm fucking T.D. Everyone,

828
01:01:40,580 --> 01:01:45,660
I have a sword because I'm an original. Carl has a hammer because he's fucking awesome.

829
01:01:45,660 --> 01:01:49,300
He's got a griffin, which Biggie didn't have. What's Biggie's mount? Oh, it's a battleship.

830
01:01:49,300 --> 01:01:54,500
Oh, good. You know who else has a battleship mount? Everyone in 40K. You aren't special.

831
01:01:54,500 --> 01:01:55,500
That's not special.

832
01:01:55,500 --> 01:02:01,020
Where did religion start after me? That you didn't want and you're a shit god. Biggie's

833
01:02:01,020 --> 01:02:04,540
a god. Carl's just a man. Carl's just a man, which is the most fundamental part of why

834
01:02:04,540 --> 01:02:10,620
he's a cool guy. And the Biggie's a shit god, but he's an even shitter human being. Big

835
01:02:10,620 --> 01:02:16,180
Imperium. Oh, good. You got a big Imperium. Half of it broke apart. It stuck around for

836
01:02:16,180 --> 01:02:20,820
10,000 years and it's been shit ever since the foundations of the Great Crusade. You

837
01:02:20,820 --> 01:02:25,140
know what hasn't been? The Empire of Man because it's grown. It was barbarians. It's turned

838
01:02:25,140 --> 01:02:29,060
into the Renaissance and the Industrial Revolution. Would you go, oh, this is impressive. It's

839
01:02:29,060 --> 01:02:33,620
a fantasy world. It's a growing civilization. It has grown and prospered. You know what

840
01:02:33,620 --> 01:02:39,820
hasn't? Biggie's shithole of an Imperium, which sucks in every measurable regard except

841
01:02:39,820 --> 01:02:46,020
winning the gold medal of racism. Congratulations. Carl Franz is a fucking hero. He was not a

842
01:02:46,020 --> 01:02:50,700
hero of the Biggie. Constantine Daldor, every time he kills someone, he hears tyrant flash

843
01:02:50,700 --> 01:02:54,940
in his mind. You know what happens when Carl Franz and his soldiers fight? They fight for

844
01:02:54,940 --> 01:03:00,500
their freedom and their empire and humanity and their allies. Because if the dwarfs like

845
01:03:00,500 --> 01:03:05,100
Carl Franz, then you can go to hell. And if you don't think the dwarfs would not like

846
01:03:05,100 --> 01:03:10,060
the emperor, he'd have a whole fucking separate great book of grudges to himself because he

847
01:03:10,060 --> 01:03:13,460
sucks. It is Franz who wins.

848
01:03:13,460 --> 01:03:26,100
Holy frick. He did it. He did it. Great timing as well.

849
01:03:26,100 --> 01:03:31,260
This is a momentous day. Clip that. Clip that. Somebody clip that. This is the biggest day

850
01:03:31,260 --> 01:03:37,020
of war crimes ever. We got Colin Gritty. We got Colin Gritty for Carl Franz. Holy frick.

851
01:03:37,020 --> 01:03:41,660
Oh my. Recording after this is going did not be pleasant.

852
01:03:41,660 --> 01:03:49,540
Glorious. Glorious. Glorious two minutes, Sir Colin. Good work. Good work. That was

853
01:03:49,540 --> 01:03:55,460
very good. Andrew, are you prepared? I am. A little disadvantage because we can't see

854
01:03:55,460 --> 01:04:07,420
your face. Yeah. All right. Whenever you're ready. Ready. All right. Three, two, one.

855
01:04:07,420 --> 01:04:14,260
Cute. Okay. Let's go down to brass tacks. So Carl Franz, you say, oh, well, he made

856
01:04:14,260 --> 01:04:20,460
a little civilization in his own spare time with pocket money and change. The emperor

857
01:04:20,460 --> 01:04:25,060
did that a hundred times over. The man's lived for over 30,000 years. Everything Carl Franz

858
01:04:25,060 --> 01:04:30,660
has done, he's done tenfold, if not a thousandfold. Carl Franz, oh, I united the species. Let's

859
01:04:30,660 --> 01:04:35,980
not forget. The emperor was there during the golden age of humanity. Everything, when we

860
01:04:35,980 --> 01:04:39,720
were collaborating and working with other species because the Imperium worked with other

861
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:45,140
species for a time, the emperor did. Carl Franz is playing off the emperor's rule book.

862
01:04:45,140 --> 01:04:50,060
He's just not gotten to the later chapters. Man has no credibility. Yes, he's a nice guy.

863
01:04:50,060 --> 01:04:53,860
Yes, he's cool. But the emperor used to be a nice guy. The emperor even said, I'm not

864
01:04:53,860 --> 01:04:58,980
even going to be involved in war or conflict because I want to see what this species can

865
01:04:58,980 --> 01:05:03,780
do without me. And it all went to hell without him. And then he went, right. I've got to

866
01:05:03,780 --> 01:05:08,740
do this myself. The emperor is more powerful. The emperor has a bigger empire. The emperor

867
01:05:08,740 --> 01:05:16,580
has a bigger schlong. We all know it. He has better drip. He has way more blades and deeds

868
01:05:16,580 --> 01:05:22,180
under his name. If the emperor was in the place of Carl Franz, just bare smoke, the

869
01:05:22,180 --> 01:05:26,420
guy would end the end times before they even ended it. He would have been like, that chaos

870
01:05:26,420 --> 01:05:34,220
guy, bam, he's gone. That chaos guy. Colin, when has Carl Franz ever humbled a chaos god?

871
01:05:34,220 --> 01:05:39,980
Never. God emperor stole power from them. He also damaged Nergal recently by inhabiting

872
01:05:39,980 --> 01:05:46,460
his son as an avatar. Bro burned Nergal's garden and he also told Korn that he's a bitch.

873
01:05:46,460 --> 01:05:50,780
The big E is the big E for a reason. There's a reason we don't call him big Carl or big

874
01:05:50,780 --> 01:05:56,500
Franz because he's small. He's a little itty butt. It's a little bitty guy. It's a bitty

875
01:05:56,500 --> 01:06:01,220
emperor. Oh, you're an emperor. Oh, that's pretty bold term for a guy who's barely got

876
01:06:01,220 --> 01:06:05,340
like a bit of landmass. Emperor is a star spanning empire. You're a little bitch, Carl

877
01:06:05,340 --> 01:06:12,260
Franz. You're cool, but you ain't no big E. Arms up, Mr. Andy. Very nice. Okay. Very nice.

878
01:06:12,260 --> 01:06:18,420
All right. I think I've asked you both enough questions. So let me tally my points right

879
01:06:18,420 --> 01:06:23,740
now. I would like before you tally your points just to call out Thankwall. I don't damage

880
01:06:23,740 --> 01:06:33,180
my followers. I goon them. That was all. Thankwall eat Andy's liver. I'm Colin's top guy. I'm

881
01:06:33,180 --> 01:06:40,380
glad you're happy, chat. We got the gritty. All right. So I got... Just imagining Thankwall

882
01:06:40,380 --> 01:06:47,180
doing a Silence of the Lamley. Remember it was liver with some father beams. Some shanty.

883
01:06:47,180 --> 01:06:57,460
With a nice kiyanshi. We should start calling him Big Franz. What's your opinion on this,

884
01:06:57,460 --> 01:07:10,180
Colin? Should we call him Big Franz? He's Big K. Special K. Special K. Oh, gosh. He's

885
01:07:10,180 --> 01:07:20,860
got a serial named after him. As seen on Reader's Digest, Big Franz. Can we get the poll up

886
01:07:20,860 --> 01:07:30,580
for the chat? Oh, good point. I have my... I forgot because I am not very clever. Oh,

887
01:07:30,580 --> 01:07:46,180
no, you cannot get that. There we go. Poll is up. So vote who you thought was better

888
01:07:46,180 --> 01:07:51,900
over. I will refrain from voting. You know what, Andy? Let's just each vote for ourselves

889
01:07:51,900 --> 01:07:59,940
so we can see the poll. That's a good point. Oh, I can see it. There we go. Oh, no. Oh,

890
01:07:59,940 --> 01:08:08,900
gosh. Guys, what the hell? Give me a vote. Why? Why have you done this? Honestly, I think

891
01:08:08,900 --> 01:08:13,780
this all comes down to literally, it doesn't matter how many arguments I make. It's just

892
01:08:13,780 --> 01:08:27,300
like, I think he's a nice guy. Doesn't matter. Screaming, screaming and gritty. More like

893
01:08:27,300 --> 01:08:37,140
summon the electric C words. You know what I mean? Oh, gosh. Sorry, Andy. I don't know.

894
01:08:37,140 --> 01:08:42,380
My Emperor could beat up your Emperor. I'm going to... That's fine. Andy's losing the

895
01:08:42,380 --> 01:08:50,300
same way he lost to Beelzebub. I'm a gracious loser. How dare you? It's not fair. My camera

896
01:08:50,300 --> 01:08:59,020
broke during stream and there are a bunch of Alpha Legion sleeper agents in the chat.

897
01:08:59,020 --> 01:09:04,700
It's not fair. Oh, my gosh. All right. Well, now that you're not doing a war on terror,

898
01:09:04,700 --> 01:09:08,820
you're not doing a war on terror. Why don't we read out the couple last donations and

899
01:09:08,820 --> 01:09:17,100
then I'll say what the scores are tallied over. Okay. Nolan Baker for five Canadian

900
01:09:17,100 --> 01:09:26,420
dollars. Do Bretonians have sphincter issues on account of the horses? Okay. It's pretty

901
01:09:26,420 --> 01:09:34,060
hard on the team. I don't want to answer that question. I don't like thinking about that.

902
01:09:34,060 --> 01:09:41,220
Blessed B Big E says, Albas. Yes. Blessed B indeed. Raw, you're a cheat. You want to

903
01:09:41,220 --> 01:09:46,420
read this one? Yes. Thank you for the $20, Mr. Raw. Carl, why is the Empire... Oh, okay.

904
01:09:46,420 --> 01:09:51,580
Why is the Empire always on the defensive rather than offensive? Emperor, how can you

905
01:09:51,580 --> 01:09:59,900
justify losing half the Imperium to chaos within 14 years during Horus Heresy? Yeah.

906
01:09:59,900 --> 01:10:06,660
When it took chaos 6,000 years to take one planet in fantasy. That's a pretty good question.

907
01:10:06,660 --> 01:10:11,980
Well, here's the thing. Think about force multipliers. One world besieged by whatever

908
01:10:11,980 --> 01:10:17,300
land mass is contained by each threat. If you have a million worlds and half of them

909
01:10:17,300 --> 01:10:24,060
become traitor, that's a force multiplier. It's not just like, oh, there's a bunch of

910
01:10:24,060 --> 01:10:28,580
people across the river shooting you with muskets. We're being attacked by air, by land.

911
01:10:28,580 --> 01:10:32,740
There's resources. There's trade routes. There's oogly-boogly powers from chaos. There's all

912
01:10:32,740 --> 01:10:39,700
sorts of stuff going on there. That's like crazy bad. There's so much stuff. Andy's conveniently

913
01:10:39,700 --> 01:10:45,020
forgetting that the same demons exist in both settings. Yeah, yeah, but a demon army isn't

914
01:10:45,020 --> 01:10:53,100
space bound. There's no verticality. You can use a trebuchet or you can use a boat, a ship,

915
01:10:53,100 --> 01:10:58,380
but there's no orbital bombardment. There's no... I'm an artist. There's no warp rifts

916
01:10:58,380 --> 01:11:04,020
consuming entire planets. The scale of Warhammer 40k is so big. So like... There's no warp

917
01:11:04,020 --> 01:11:09,740
rifts. I've played Warhammer fantasy role play, Andy. They still got warp rifts. Do

918
01:11:09,740 --> 01:11:17,260
not be an old lady in front of... Where's Werther's Originals? Oh, we're talking about

919
01:11:17,260 --> 01:11:23,620
original. Which one came first? 40k or fantasy? I was saying Werther's Originals. They're

920
01:11:23,620 --> 01:11:30,460
sweet in the UK. Old people eat. I can't put the rage back in the bottle. It's a filling

921
01:11:30,460 --> 01:11:37,820
of corn's favorite soldier. Finny, thank you for the 499. All right, Colleen. All of Eldar's

922
01:11:37,820 --> 01:11:45,420
psychic nonsense can be summed up to do, trust me, bro. Maybe if Eldred talked to Kahn instead

923
01:11:45,420 --> 01:11:50,340
of Ferris. Pretty true. I bet the Kahn will listen to that.

924
01:11:50,340 --> 01:11:55,620
I can answer that very simple question. If Eldred was smart and written smartly, we wouldn't

925
01:11:55,620 --> 01:12:00,900
have a Horus heresy. Same for everyone in the heresy. If they were smart, we wouldn't

926
01:12:00,900 --> 01:12:08,380
have 40k. If there's no lairblade, we'd have no freaking Horus heresy at all. One million

927
01:12:08,380 --> 01:12:17,180
plot. I must admit, I've been so tempted to order Eli a lairblade body. Hello? This is

928
01:12:17,180 --> 01:12:21,740
a meme. He puts it in the corners like, I hate this.

929
01:12:21,740 --> 01:12:30,660
Okay. Bean. Bean for $5. I bring a two bodies in one grave by to the halo ring that the

930
01:12:30,660 --> 01:12:34,620
refrain doesn't relate. Two corpses in one grave.

931
01:12:34,620 --> 01:12:40,700
Thank you for that halo reference. I'll give you a 2 dollars. Thank you, Colleen. Who in

932
01:12:40,700 --> 01:12:45,340
all of Warhammer gets the glory hammer? None of them do. Only Angus McFife gets the glory

933
01:12:45,340 --> 01:12:48,980
hammer. That's right. That's right. What is the glory hammer? Angus McFife is a hero in

934
01:12:48,980 --> 01:12:54,140
this house. What's the glory hammer? It's a band. It's a power metal band. They sing

935
01:12:54,140 --> 01:13:00,180
about their D&D. I'm pretty sure. There's no like, cause the only thing is when I see

936
01:13:00,180 --> 01:13:05,940
glory hammer, I think like, ugh, like a glory? No, it's not like that. You are disgracing

937
01:13:05,940 --> 01:13:13,100
the band. It's their sci-fi fantasy D&D sessions. They're crazy songs and videos. Their songs

938
01:13:13,100 --> 01:13:19,620
it's off-brand 40 days. But I mean that in every complimentary way.

939
01:13:19,620 --> 01:13:26,300
Dante. Dante, thank you for CLP. Thank you very much. I love you guys. No homo. We love

940
01:13:26,300 --> 01:13:33,660
you too, Berta. We love you too. No homo. Maybe a little. Maybe a little. 5%, 10%. Have

941
01:13:33,660 --> 01:13:39,740
you seen what Thankful says? Donkeyman USA. Thankful the 5. Colleen and I both doing vodka

942
01:13:39,740 --> 01:13:43,020
shots. Base, base, base, base, base. Very nice.

943
01:13:43,020 --> 01:13:48,300
I had to power up and I'm glad you were with me like the spirit bomb. Wait, wait, hold

944
01:13:48,300 --> 01:13:56,340
on. Colleen was using performance enhancing drugs. That's not fair. That's what we call

945
01:13:56,340 --> 01:14:02,340
that. Certainly for entertainment. You know what? You do have me on that one. Morningstar,

946
01:14:02,340 --> 01:14:10,300
I will happily read this one out. Carl wins cause he has natural charisma. Ems needs psychic

947
01:14:10,300 --> 01:14:18,420
charisma to make people give him what he wants. One has Riz, the other fakes it. It's truth.

948
01:14:18,420 --> 01:14:28,660
It's truth. All right. I know what I'm beat. All right. Well, the total points, Colleen

949
01:14:28,660 --> 01:14:38,540
has total of 18 points and Andy with a total of 14 points. So that is that. Unfortunately,

950
01:14:38,540 --> 01:14:43,060
these five minutes, a lot of his five minutes was spent talking negatively about the opponent

951
01:14:43,060 --> 01:14:47,540
instead of talking positively about the emperor of mankind. So he lost a lot of points in

952
01:14:47,540 --> 01:14:51,300
the first round, but he got them back in the third round where Colleen only got one point

953
01:14:51,300 --> 01:14:54,540
by showing off his model and then the rest of his points were just making fun of the

954
01:14:54,540 --> 01:15:00,740
emperor. So they didn't count for much. But then the round of hate people got most a lot

955
01:15:00,740 --> 01:15:03,100
of their points. I'm just going to put it out there. Colleen

956
01:15:03,100 --> 01:15:09,180
won cause he did the gritty on camera. I just tallied up the points, whatever you guys

957
01:15:09,180 --> 01:15:14,420
had good points. Truthfully. I was just doing my job. I was just following orders, said

958
01:15:14,420 --> 01:15:19,620
Eli. I think Colleen got like four or five points

959
01:15:19,620 --> 01:15:25,060
for the last thing. If I took off two of those, he was still a one to be fair. I think your

960
01:15:25,060 --> 01:15:31,940
first round was the toughest one cause Colleen got a lot of points in round one.

961
01:15:31,940 --> 01:15:38,060
I still maintain that if you were to switch the two over, not talking about their morals,

962
01:15:38,060 --> 01:15:43,220
not talking about just capabilities, I think it would be a wipe. Like generally just the

963
01:15:43,220 --> 01:15:49,220
emperor is such a, he's difficult to defend in terms of his personality. But as far as

964
01:15:49,220 --> 01:15:54,500
power, if you were to do be like, if you were to do on those kind of cringe shorts on YouTube

965
01:15:54,500 --> 01:16:01,380
was just like so and so versus so and so. Power, one. Constitution, one. It's like emperor

966
01:16:01,380 --> 01:16:06,460
would be like win, win, win, win, win. Charisma loses and they'd be win, win, win, win. Cause

967
01:16:06,460 --> 01:16:13,740
he's just kind of like, he's just like, he's just powerful. That's his whole thing. That's

968
01:16:13,740 --> 01:16:14,740
his shtick.

969
01:16:14,740 --> 01:16:21,740
You did lose a point Andy because you didn't have a rebuttal for the horse hairs you question.

970
01:16:21,740 --> 01:16:23,700
I had to take off a point for that.

971
01:16:23,700 --> 01:16:25,660
Why? I rebutted.

972
01:16:25,660 --> 01:16:27,460
You said no.

973
01:16:27,460 --> 01:16:34,500
Yeah, it was a valid. I will refer to you William Shakespeare, brevity is the soul of

974
01:16:34,500 --> 01:16:35,500
wit.

975
01:16:35,500 --> 01:16:39,660
Also, you didn't have a, you didn't really answer my first question about Erda either,

976
01:16:39,660 --> 01:16:41,660
so I couldn't give you a point for that one.

977
01:16:41,660 --> 01:16:45,620
Also, to quote Albert Einstein, a man who can't explain something simply doesn't know what

978
01:16:45,620 --> 01:16:53,420
he's talking about. So I thought I'll do it in one word. There you go.

979
01:16:53,420 --> 01:16:57,020
Well it was still a good fight. It was not that far off. It was still pretty close.

980
01:16:57,020 --> 01:17:02,380
It was fun. It was fun. I knew, the thing is before we even started, I knew people would

981
01:17:02,380 --> 01:17:05,060
be like against the emperor because he's essentially a bad emperor.

982
01:17:05,060 --> 01:17:08,140
He's hard to justify and he is a bad emperor in the end.

983
01:17:08,140 --> 01:17:09,140
Yeah.

984
01:17:09,140 --> 01:17:19,380
I don't remember who it was. I've heard before mentioned like the emperor does not do much

985
01:17:19,380 --> 01:17:24,060
emperin as it were.

986
01:17:24,060 --> 01:17:29,340
To be fair, could you imagine how much paperwork there is to govern a million worlds? That's

987
01:17:29,340 --> 01:17:30,340
a lot.

988
01:17:30,340 --> 01:17:33,980
I can't imagine it because the admit astronomy exists and it's a nightmare.

989
01:17:33,980 --> 01:17:38,700
Yeah, that's true. But the emperor just doesn't do anything after Ullinor. He just goes and

990
01:17:38,700 --> 01:17:42,300
works on the web web but doesn't actually tell anybody about it and then his projects

991
01:17:42,300 --> 01:17:44,780
destroyed because he didn't tell anybody about it.

992
01:17:44,780 --> 01:17:49,620
Well the idea is that again, it's like if anyone knew about it, they'd be tempted by

993
01:17:49,620 --> 01:17:56,340
chaos and to be fair to the emperor, the minute Erebus got whiff of the chaos gods, he became

994
01:17:56,340 --> 01:17:59,220
corrupted. The minute Lorgar did, he became corrupted.

995
01:17:59,220 --> 01:18:01,580
The minute that even Magnus trying to-

996
01:18:01,580 --> 01:18:04,020
Lorgar is the emperor's fault though.

997
01:18:04,020 --> 01:18:10,700
Yeah, but even like even Magnus who's trying to do the right thing, even Magnus who's trying

998
01:18:10,700 --> 01:18:16,260
to do the right thing plays into chaos's hands and that's the kind of idea of like, even

999
01:18:16,260 --> 01:18:20,860
when you try to do the right thing, you still mess it up and he messed things up more than

1000
01:18:20,860 --> 01:18:22,260
anyone.

1001
01:18:22,260 --> 01:18:26,220
But if the emperor told Magnus that would happen if he talks to the weird guys in the

1002
01:18:26,220 --> 01:18:30,100
war, after knowing that Magnus talks to the weird things in the war-

1003
01:18:30,100 --> 01:18:34,860
Well, he did tell one of his sons, he told Corax.

1004
01:18:34,860 --> 01:18:38,500
That leaves out the other 21 of them.

1005
01:18:38,500 --> 01:18:45,140
Yeah, but again, Corax is the only one. He's cringe, he's emo, he'll be fine. If he likes

1006
01:18:45,140 --> 01:18:47,340
hot topics, he'll just like some more bad pizza.

1007
01:18:47,340 --> 01:18:52,180
You'd think he would tell the guy who is like one with the warp about what's inside of the

1008
01:18:52,180 --> 01:18:55,780
warp, the thing that he's playing with all the time and studying.

1009
01:18:55,780 --> 01:19:00,020
I'm just saying-

1010
01:19:00,020 --> 01:19:03,340
Even the white scars kind of knew about chaos. They were just like, oh, this is weird. They're

1011
01:19:03,340 --> 01:19:06,420
like, don't trust it, it's weird. They're like, okay.

1012
01:19:06,420 --> 01:19:07,420
It's weird.

1013
01:19:07,420 --> 01:19:13,620
I'm just saying, the average empire state trooper knows all about chaos and their responses.

1014
01:19:13,620 --> 01:19:16,540
Pull up, fucko, it's time to fight.

1015
01:19:16,540 --> 01:19:23,100
Yep. Ironically, religious devotion is what wards against chaos the best, I would argue.

1016
01:19:23,100 --> 01:19:30,820
In the words of Victor Saltspire, bless it, Shikma.

1017
01:19:30,820 --> 01:19:37,500
If the emperor let Lohgar worship him as a god and do his word-bear things, I think they

1018
01:19:37,500 --> 01:19:41,820
could have probably avoided a lot of the horse hairs.

1019
01:19:41,820 --> 01:19:44,420
That's how it turned out in the end anyways.

1020
01:19:44,420 --> 01:19:52,180
I'm just saying the iconoclasts as they were known then were burning books. I don't know.

1021
01:19:52,180 --> 01:19:55,460
I think the word-bearers were kind of messed up from the start.

1022
01:19:55,460 --> 01:19:56,460
Yeah.

1023
01:19:56,460 --> 01:20:00,980
I mean, it's not like the emperor didn't get rid of every religious information ever.

1024
01:20:00,980 --> 01:20:06,860
I'm going to throw a controversial statement out there. I think all of the augmented child

1025
01:20:06,860 --> 01:20:09,660
soldiers were a bit messed up from the start.

1026
01:20:09,660 --> 01:20:12,900
I think all of them.

1027
01:20:12,900 --> 01:20:15,420
Jagatai and Vulcan are precious boys.

1028
01:20:15,420 --> 01:20:22,700
Yeah, but Jagatai didn't even like the emperor. He knew he was bad. He knew he was wrong.

1029
01:20:22,700 --> 01:20:27,140
That's why he's my favorite Primarch. He was just like, he looks around, sees a billion

1030
01:20:27,140 --> 01:20:32,780
Astartes. He goes, well, I don't really want my whole civilization to die. I guess I'll

1031
01:20:32,780 --> 01:20:33,780
comply.

1032
01:20:33,780 --> 01:20:38,140
He basically went to St. Guineas. He's like, do you actually believe this crap? And St.

1033
01:20:38,140 --> 01:20:40,740
Guineas was like, yeah, not really. But you know, it's what we tell our people.

1034
01:20:40,740 --> 01:20:45,860
I'm not even an angel mate. And he's like, yeah, I know. They were good mates.

1035
01:20:45,860 --> 01:20:49,620
Same with Russ. He knew plenty of the truths. He didn't believe it. But he was still a loyal

1036
01:20:49,620 --> 01:20:50,620
guy, to be fair.

1037
01:20:50,620 --> 01:20:53,460
Shifty Uncle Malkador telling him all the secrets.

1038
01:20:53,460 --> 01:20:57,420
That's why Jagatai is great because he's realizing, yeah, the emperor is kind of whack, but you

1039
01:20:57,420 --> 01:20:59,620
know what's more whack? Hell.

1040
01:20:59,620 --> 01:21:07,500
There was more whack not being able to ride and have a beer. Crazy.

1041
01:21:07,500 --> 01:21:14,620
I miss him. He's out there getting chicks in the Jukari land.

1042
01:21:14,620 --> 01:21:16,620
He's got a bunch of girlfriends.

1043
01:21:16,620 --> 01:21:17,620
He's a harlequin.

1044
01:21:17,620 --> 01:21:24,620
He's hanging with the harlequins. He's hanging with the harlequins going, this is whack. And

1045
01:21:24,620 --> 01:21:28,460
they're like, yeah, it's like, oh, what's the time? End times? Oh, off I go.

1046
01:21:28,460 --> 01:21:33,020
The random down draws happening, apparently. So there's literally the end times.

1047
01:21:33,020 --> 01:21:35,020
The Phoenix Lords have come back on.

1048
01:21:35,020 --> 01:21:38,460
Except for Corandras, because we hate Corandras, apparently.

1049
01:21:38,460 --> 01:21:40,420
Real question from Bean.

1050
01:21:40,420 --> 01:21:41,420
Oh, I saw.

1051
01:21:41,420 --> 01:21:42,420
Between the two, that's a jawline.

1052
01:21:42,420 --> 01:21:50,180
Allow me to put this image of his family in the general lore crimes chat. Behold the brick

1053
01:21:50,180 --> 01:21:51,180
jaw.

1054
01:21:51,180 --> 01:21:54,660
I got a weird comment the other day.

1055
01:21:54,660 --> 01:21:57,180
That is a blunt weapon.

1056
01:21:57,180 --> 01:21:59,220
Oh my god. He looks...

1057
01:21:59,220 --> 01:22:00,500
Quite the image.

1058
01:22:00,500 --> 01:22:03,260
His face looks like it's made of putty. What is going on there?

1059
01:22:03,260 --> 01:22:06,580
Just dancing. I know we don't understand that.

1060
01:22:06,580 --> 01:22:12,900
You see it's a metaphor for how he molds the empire of man like clay in his hands.

1061
01:22:12,900 --> 01:22:18,300
All I'm saying is I did a post on my channel about the merch, and I had me in a t-shirt

1062
01:22:18,300 --> 01:22:23,460
giving a thumbs up, and I had a comment like, man has the jawline of Pertorabo. I didn't

1063
01:22:23,460 --> 01:22:24,980
know how to feel.

1064
01:22:24,980 --> 01:22:27,220
I don't know.

1065
01:22:27,220 --> 01:22:30,500
About half insult, half praise, and I was uncertain.

1066
01:22:30,500 --> 01:22:33,540
I don't freak with me.

1067
01:22:33,540 --> 01:22:36,220
Sigmar's jawline could be a warline.

1068
01:22:36,220 --> 01:22:37,220
Very true.

1069
01:22:37,220 --> 01:22:41,460
I feel like it would have been more sense to do Sigmar versus the emperor. But I mean,

1070
01:22:41,460 --> 01:22:44,060
Karl Franz is an emperor.

1071
01:22:44,060 --> 01:22:48,740
I feel like Sigmar would do worse because Sigmar is a bit more generic. He's like a

1072
01:22:48,740 --> 01:23:01,860
bar bearing. He's like Talos from Elder Scrolls.

1073
01:23:01,860 --> 01:23:02,860
Twenty-second.

1074
01:23:02,860 --> 01:23:04,900
No, there would be 21.

1075
01:23:04,900 --> 01:23:05,900
Yeah.

1076
01:23:05,900 --> 01:23:06,900
Various Omega.

1077
01:23:06,900 --> 01:23:07,900
Yeah.

1078
01:23:07,900 --> 01:23:08,900
Yeah.

1079
01:23:08,900 --> 01:23:11,700
I know Sigmar's a bit more like, oh, he's a bad man.

1080
01:23:11,700 --> 01:23:17,860
He wants to kill Colin. He wants to fight him so bad. Colin got that Pertorabo hairline.

1081
01:23:17,860 --> 01:23:19,580
Yes, that's mean.

1082
01:23:19,580 --> 01:23:24,140
Thoughts on Karl getting ganged up in the Omens of Destruction trailer.

1083
01:23:24,140 --> 01:23:28,980
I refer to the Watchmen scene where Rorschach isn't locked in there with them. He's there

1084
01:23:28,980 --> 01:23:29,980
locked in there with them.

1085
01:23:29,980 --> 01:23:30,980
What is this?

1086
01:23:30,980 --> 01:23:36,580
Oh, it's the newest Total War DLC trailer.

1087
01:23:36,580 --> 01:23:37,580
It opens with...

1088
01:23:37,580 --> 01:23:39,580
It's a drink war.

1089
01:23:39,580 --> 01:23:40,580
Sorry.

1090
01:23:40,580 --> 01:23:48,020
It opens with, I think it's Gorfang Rotgut, the Skulltaker, and the ogre whose name I

1091
01:23:48,020 --> 01:23:51,900
can't say on YouTube.

1092
01:23:51,900 --> 01:23:53,900
Interesting.

1093
01:23:53,900 --> 01:24:01,740
Gorf Man-Eater. I can't finish Gorf. I can't finish that name.

1094
01:24:01,740 --> 01:24:03,300
Just call him Golgag.

1095
01:24:03,300 --> 01:24:06,340
I do love Skulltaker. I love that guy.

1096
01:24:06,340 --> 01:24:09,140
I'll call him Golg. His name is Golg.

1097
01:24:09,140 --> 01:24:12,260
Golgag. There you go. He gags on the Golg.

1098
01:24:12,260 --> 01:24:14,260
There we go.

1099
01:24:14,260 --> 01:24:15,260
Done.

1100
01:24:15,260 --> 01:24:20,940
Gorf is from a Reggie video. That's not... It's Golg.

1101
01:24:20,940 --> 01:24:23,940
And Donkeyman USA for five buckaroos.

1102
01:24:23,940 --> 01:24:32,260
Speaking forehead. I also got that Bricky style forehead. I also have voluminous, glorious

1103
01:24:32,260 --> 01:24:33,260
auburn hair.

1104
01:24:33,260 --> 01:24:34,260
Wow.

1105
01:24:34,260 --> 01:24:35,260
Lovely.

1106
01:24:35,260 --> 01:24:36,260
Very nice.

1107
01:24:36,260 --> 01:24:39,260
I like Bricky for not liking BattleTech.

1108
01:24:39,260 --> 01:24:44,500
Why doesn't he like BattleTech?

1109
01:24:44,500 --> 01:24:51,660
I don't know. It was one of the AdRick streams. He just said he's not into it.

1110
01:24:51,660 --> 01:24:55,340
I remember playing MechaSalt and MechaSalt 2 and then I didn't play for ages and then

1111
01:24:55,340 --> 01:24:58,700
I played five and went, oh, it's still going. Wow.

1112
01:24:58,700 --> 01:25:08,540
I think it's technically a different game than Mech5, but it's still called Mech5. It's

1113
01:25:08,540 --> 01:25:13,980
like how ODST is Halo 3 ODST.

1114
01:25:13,980 --> 01:25:20,540
My real life friend is actually the tech guy for one of the BattleTech MMOs.

1115
01:25:20,540 --> 01:25:21,540
Oh, shit. Really?

1116
01:25:21,540 --> 01:25:25,940
Like you call and you get a ticket number and he fixes your game or whatever for you.

1117
01:25:25,940 --> 01:25:28,620
The ticket number.

1118
01:25:28,620 --> 01:25:29,620
Tech warrior.

1119
01:25:29,620 --> 01:25:30,620
There you go.

1120
01:25:30,620 --> 01:25:31,620
Do you want to read that?

1121
01:25:31,620 --> 01:25:37,500
I'm going to take the $20. That's my emperor right there. I have come here amidst working

1122
01:25:37,500 --> 01:25:43,260
on college work. I should probably finish the man. The emperor may God curse his name,

1123
01:25:43,260 --> 01:25:49,500
boiling in liquid shit for all eternity is at best how he's written a moron. Sigmar is

1124
01:25:49,500 --> 01:25:51,500
base. Wow. This guy hates the emperor.

1125
01:25:51,500 --> 01:25:57,820
I don't get it. Why do all these people hate this tyrannical demagogue?

1126
01:25:57,820 --> 01:26:01,260
I don't get it. It doesn't work.

1127
01:26:01,260 --> 01:26:05,220
He was cooler in old lore when there weren't a hundred horse air sea books of him being

1128
01:26:05,220 --> 01:26:06,220
awful.

1129
01:26:06,220 --> 01:26:12,220
But he was a well-meaning tyrant. And also I'm going to say it before they Reddit atheismed

1130
01:26:12,220 --> 01:26:21,780
him because old lore there was no imperial truth. I'll even, you know what? I swear I'm

1131
01:26:21,780 --> 01:26:23,940
pulling something that's actually relevant.

1132
01:26:23,940 --> 01:26:28,060
A lot of old, at least when I was a kid, people would always say that the emperor did a lot

1133
01:26:28,060 --> 01:26:32,980
of Jesus things. I don't know where that's from, but people would say that all the time.

1134
01:26:32,980 --> 01:26:39,260
May I read the first three sentences of the old warhammer book openings?

1135
01:26:39,260 --> 01:26:43,060
It is the 41st millennium. For more than a hundred centuries, the emperor has set a

1136
01:26:43,060 --> 01:26:49,620
mobile on the golden throne of earth. He is the master of mankind by the will of the gods

1137
01:26:49,620 --> 01:26:54,220
and master of a million worlds by the might of his inexhaustible armies. And I want to

1138
01:26:54,220 --> 01:26:55,780
go down that timeline.

1139
01:26:55,780 --> 01:27:00,700
I want to see the imperial pantheon.

1140
01:27:00,700 --> 01:27:06,140
I miss the old warhammer lore. I miss it. Take the Primarchs away. I don't want to see them

1141
01:27:06,140 --> 01:27:07,140
anymore.

1142
01:27:07,140 --> 01:27:12,140
New stuff does give us stuff like Istvan, though. Istvan 3 is cool.

1143
01:27:12,140 --> 01:27:15,220
Can we make Caiaphas Cain the first god of goofers?

1144
01:27:15,220 --> 01:27:20,340
He has to be an imperial saint so we can never be free of Jinnah.

1145
01:27:20,340 --> 01:27:24,380
That's what I mean. We need an imperial saint of being stoic and boring, and we make that

1146
01:27:24,380 --> 01:27:30,220
Sigismund. And then we go, imperial saint of being a goofy goober is Caiaphas Cain.

1147
01:27:30,220 --> 01:27:35,420
And then imperial saint of granddads is Sebastian Yarik. There you go. Done.

1148
01:27:35,420 --> 01:27:41,100
Except everyone thinks Caiaphas Cain is the saint of being stuffy and boring.

1149
01:27:41,100 --> 01:27:45,980
I just like the idea that living saint Sebastian Yarik would just shout, get off my lawn! And

1150
01:27:45,980 --> 01:27:48,380
that's his entire character arc.

1151
01:27:48,380 --> 01:27:53,020
Thankwall is asking Colin for a kissy.

1152
01:27:53,020 --> 01:27:56,900
No. You're not getting that. Andy gave you some.

1153
01:27:56,900 --> 01:28:03,660
Tell your wife you love her, bro. I tell her every day. Don't worry.

1154
01:28:03,660 --> 01:28:05,660
Shaz is getting weird. Shall we call it a wrap?

1155
01:28:05,660 --> 01:28:07,660
Colin, can I get a fighty?

1156
01:28:07,660 --> 01:28:14,660
I would have never let this episode go past 45 minutes.

1157
01:28:14,660 --> 01:28:20,780
All right. Well, thanks everyone for joining us.

1158
01:28:20,780 --> 01:28:22,780
Thank you very much for tuning in.

1159
01:28:22,780 --> 01:28:28,180
That was a resounding 3-0 to me. I've never won a verse because I'm mad at this.

1160
01:28:28,180 --> 01:28:29,180
My throat hurts.

1161
01:28:29,180 --> 01:28:36,700
But to be fair, I think it was a good laugh anyway. And yeah.

1162
01:28:36,700 --> 01:28:42,700
I hope you guys all enjoyed this episode. We'll be back next week. Next week, Eli is

1163
01:28:42,700 --> 01:28:46,900
going to be off, but Hau will be back. And we'll catch you all on the next stream.

1164
01:28:46,900 --> 01:28:47,900
Bye, everybody.

1165
01:28:47,900 --> 01:28:52,900
Have a pleasant night, evening, whatever it is. See you later, everyone.

1166
01:28:52,900 --> 01:28:53,900
Bye.