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Hello everybody, it's LoreCrimes! Weee! How's everybody been? Welcome!

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It's your daily Friday... Daily Friday? Your weekly Friday little chat and chill with us,

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little LoreTube... What are we? What's my actual job description? God.

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LoreTube? Not real.

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Herosite.

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Yeah.

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From four different... No, yeah, four blokes from four different countries, ready to talk

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about the thing that we love most.

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I literally blanked out. I said something wrong.

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Oh God. Already being roasted in the chat. Appreciate it so much though. But today we

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took another tier list, boys. One of our favorites. If you're just an audio listener, we'll try

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and describe it as we're going along. But today we are ranking Warhammer factions based upon

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their lore. So it's not model ranges. Fair one's got a particularly horrendous model

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range. You're fine. But you know, needs an update. It's gagging for an update. As I've

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already said the word gagging and DJ Beast in the comments is immediately going to call

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it out. So I'm getting to it before.

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Yes he is.

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Just before.

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We love him for it.

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But it's ranked based on lore. This is not just Warhammer 40k. This is Warhammer fantasy

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too. This is all Warhammer factions. Finally Colin doesn't have to hear any Horus heresy

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stuff for one week of his entire life. You know, absolutely begging for it. Oh also Colin,

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nice jumper. Where'd you get it?

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For real.

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Oh he's on mute.

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I might have been.

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We were just saying how fetching your...

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I know. It's this wonderful shirt I've got from a little channel called Lorecrimes. I'm

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a big fan.

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What's a Lorecrimes?

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It's where four people go to get made fun of by their audience.

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Sounds about right. Yeah, pretty much. But yeah, so now we've now completed the set.

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Everyone's got one now. So everyone's happy.

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Yeah, if anyone wants to merchandise themselves, they can go see. We have our links on our

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website, links on our channel. Go check it out. If you want to support us. It's Christmas

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time coming up. If you've got anyone who you do absolutely wish to make fun of as well

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in your life, you can buy them some merch.

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If you have a family member you want to pick on for no reason, just yeah, buy them our

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merch. I guess that makes sense.

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We're real YouTubers now. We can shill for merch. We made it.

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I just saw the donation from Jack and he says also I'm a fan of your YouTube.

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Classic.

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Classic. I think we had someone, we had a few donations earlier though, but we'll get,

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we'll get to a few of them just before we dive into the fashion today.

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Anyone else want to read them out?

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I just want to read this one because it caught me by surprise. Angry homunculus says DHL

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can piss off.

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Yeah, I'm not sure with that one. I don't know what DHL is.

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It's like the delivery service.

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Yeah, it's postal service. So I don't know what the context is, but there's a gripe there.

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Well Canadian postal services on-

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I can't say that word. Plastic bag for five months. Just can't say that word, unfortunately.

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Just found out about-

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Corn.

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Corn. I'm disgusted.

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Corn.

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Cereal and plastic bag. Stuff on these trees pal.

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Dude, it's the horrid world out there.

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How, what is this world? Come on.

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Hell, you want to read this one or would you like someone else to take that hit for you?

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Someone else please.

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Oh my god.

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I was sounding to the book of Enoch.

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That's a crazy statement. That's a sick book by the way. That's a good book. I don't personally

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sound to it though.

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Oh my god.

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Who have joined on in the book of Enoch?

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Yeah.

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Donkeyman USA. Regular. Actually brother. We love him. If Bretonnia gets above DT, I'm

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sending Hal to the Astarte's anonymous milking room.

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Well, you might be doing that.

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So much calcium.

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We got a Jack Ender with the next two.

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Jack Ender. Five bucks. I hated the Space Wolves till I read their books. Now they're

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my favorite. To be fair, their books are pretty good.

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Hang on.

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Also I'm gay.

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He's coming up with a second one.

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Oh god.

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So funny.

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Good for you.

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Colin, this next one's for you.

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Parker Summerlin, the evil of five. Hey Colin, when can we expect a Bretonnia pub quiz? Eli's

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the one for that. Not me.

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I gotta read a few books for that.

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I don't buy that.

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I might have to run it just so they're able to answer it.

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Eli and Colin can like bat it out and then Andy can suffer.

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What are the ones I've won so far? I won Korn, which was Travesty. I won Eli's Eldar quiz

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because I wasn't running the Eldar.

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If I win the Bretonnia one, I gotta quit.

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But first things first though, we're getting into factions. Again, this is just the law.

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We are unfortunately law people only really. So we there should be like all bread and butter

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and not the live leagues of Votan come up. I'm just not gonna have an opinion on it because

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there's actually no law.

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We're not got them yet. The first one I believe is Adeptus Custodes.

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We're rating law, right?

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True.

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What law? They've got like...

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They're always side characters.

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Horace, Heresy, a few books.

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I've never been gripped by Custodes lore whenever I read the Horace, Heresy books.

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Custodies are always just resoundingly like there. They're present. Thanks for being here.

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Everyone likes Trajan though, right?

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There's a pretty good two book series. Was it Watchers of the Throne?

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Yeah, Watchers of the Throne is really good, but it's like it's split between the Custodians,

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Sisters of Silence, Minotaurs, Imperial Fists and like a politician who helps the High Lords

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of Terror. So it's spread quite widely. So the bits they're in are good. And it's mainly

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from the perspective of Captain Valerian.

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But it's the only time we really have like a spotlight on them and they have to share

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the spotlight, which is like...

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There is another one with an Inquisitor on the cover with a... Is it the Blackstone Fortress

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series? I haven't read that one yet, but it's like there's one on the cover of one of the

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women Inquisitor. I haven't read that one.

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Oh, yeah.

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And then also in the Scyther book as a side character, which are kind of cool, but like

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they're basically like, hey, do you hear about the Dark Angels invading the Imperial Palace

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while we're under siege from Khorne? That's pretty messed up. And yes, that's a norm.

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I saw someone say grippy tailless. I don't even know that.

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Oh, god, brother.

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I do have to pick out the... As much as like you kind of... Yeah, for 10,000 years, they

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kind of sat there and did nothing. Just glazed the universe.

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They die really well in the first heretic and also in Outcast's Dead. I like that.

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I mean, the whole webway... Personally, I give them like DT or what? I don't know.

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I think it's annoying because like... Yeah, I would say C, but I want to reserve it for

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top of C. Because like some of the most hardcore scenes in the Horus Heresy involve custodies.

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And obviously when the Emperor doesn't charge in the webway, that thing is the most baroque

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over the top. That is just pure 40k Khorne, shall we say. C for custodies. Technically,

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if that's the faction, that also includes Sisters of Silence as well. So I don't know

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if that changed anyone's opinion.

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Oh my god. I've also terror-blanked them.

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I wish they had some stuff to do. That's the only thing.

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Yeah, they're in the...

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Ah, the Silences are cool. They're there.

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Yeah. The one in... The first Death Guard, the Flight of the Isenstein. That's the last

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time I remember reading about a Sister of Silence.

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Yeah.

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And she was only in it for the first time.

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I'm gonna stir the pot. I like the one from the Tithe. I thought it was really cool and

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did the Sisters justice.

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I have not read that one.

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It was a book. Or it was a show.

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It was an animation.

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It was animated.

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Oh, I haven't watched that yet. I haven't watched any of the animations. I don't know where

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to get them for free because I'm not a pirate of the Seven Seas. So I have not watched any.

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I love the Four Threat Rebooters. I love the vampire codes.

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I hope...

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Our half-MDD law crimes is just for me.

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We need animated 40k series as a proper 12-episode thing. It can be done. I don't care if it's

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the most beautiful thing ever.

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If the Lord of the Rings anime does well, that would open the gate for other fantasy

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anime.

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Will you get Studio Trigger to animate it?

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Where is the new animation?

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What's the one coming up?

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Yeah, the player one or something. That's a pirate one.

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It's something like that.

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I think it'll be cool. It'll be a cool 10-minute thing.

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Featuring Titus.

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Titus is a...

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So if anyone plays Space Screen 2, I think it's a direct follow-on to Space Reborn.

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I'm going to Ultra-Bust.

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I was going to say, I think Eli did a come there. What's going on?

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I think Eli did a come.

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I'm going to use it as a cry.

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Soundbite that, please.

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Next one, moving on swiftly.

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Mechanica.

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They're kind of fun.

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They have one of the best horse hair seriously books too. I'd give them A or S.

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I'm going to go against the grain here.

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They're so 40k, bro. They're so 40k.

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I'm going to go against the grain here slightly. I like them as side dishes. I don't think

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I'm that... Like, lore-wise, again, it's tough because Mechanica's horse hair is a book that's

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too... No, it's Mechanica. I'm sorry. It's fire. But what else is there? I don't know

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what else to get excited about.

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I still have to read the trilogy.

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They perfectly fit the setting. I don't know.

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Is it Forge of Mars? Or there's like Forge of Mars and it's like, there's a trilogy

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of books that are really well received and I've not read them yet. But they're kind of

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like a weird faction in terms of like, they're like the side dressing to the steak. It's

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like, steak is the space marine's and Mechanica's is just there. It's like, oh, this is nice.

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The space marine's is quite nice.

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You take out the Mechanica's from the Imperium. You have no more Imperium. The Emperor doesn't

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get his Imperium because he has no built-in guns.

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But at the same time, you take the Administratum out and that's the same thing. But I don't

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really want to read a book on the Administratum.

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I do rather prefer the side characters. They are perfectly fitting.

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They do have the one crime, I feel like, in some books and other things, which is like,

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they are the most boring section in some other things. It's annoying in some things. It can

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be done really well, like it's shown in some books, but I'm just not that gassed about

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it, honestly.

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I beg of you all, play Mechanicus. It's so cool. Children of the Omnisci-I, come on.

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I think the S tier is getting, but B tier for actual lore.

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I want to reserve A and S for something like, I'm genuinely excited.

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Mechanicum is like an S tier book to me, though. I really like it.

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But it doesn't carry strong enough.

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Because there's not a Primark in it?

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No, that's not even, my most favorite books are not Primark ones, but it just doesn't

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get me, I'm just not gassed about it.

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I admit to having a lot of bias because if I had the option, I would turn myself into

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a tech priest with zero hesitation.

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Throw me up.

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Trays in a cum.

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I will say no.

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Look at me and be confused. Just not know where to start.

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You know what, I'll go with the crowd then. We'll leave it in A. But I can't, if it's

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top of A, obviously I'll be upset. I'll head back the wall. What's the next one?

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Eldar.

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I wish I could say S tier, but I can't.

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Just from a lore perspective, am I wrong?

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The codex lore is good. Reading your codex is great. But if you read a single Eldar book,

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then it's like, wow, this sucks.

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They should be, come on, do them seats here, please.

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Do things a lot more than the custodians.

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And they look cooler. They look way cooler.

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I genuinely want to ask Colen.

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They have a lot of cool unique things.

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How can they be your favorite? Just in terms of like, I don't know if there's enough within

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them that like, that just makes like a personal taste thing for me. Because they're like elves

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are my favorite and other things. But I don't understand how Eldar could be like for you,

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obviously in your heart, it's S tier.

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I can give you three reasons. One, I can give you a couple reasons, but I don't know how

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long we have to spend on me glazing the Eldar again.

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One, again, you know what? I just like elves. I'll just say it. I like elves. They're elves

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in space. Two, I like their aesthetic so much. They're like the only graceful faction in 40K.

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Everyone else is these big blocky stuff. I mean, except the Tyranids aren't really blocky,

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but I also wouldn't call a carnivore or a carnifex terribly graceful.

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You know, they're graceful, they're elegant. Everything they do is cool. Like the craft

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world lore, these massive planet ships is so cool. Their books shoot them in the foot

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because like their overall faction lore is so cool. And then we get two Ynari trilogy

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books that don't quite make it to the trilogy part. When they're allowed to be cool, they're

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so cool. And Kaib is gain of all places. They were awesome.

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And Beelzean exists. Yeah, Beelzean. It's like, yeah, they don't have the books the

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other factions do because no one will give them those books. And whenever someone is

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forced to make a book, it's Gav Thorpe on his way to explain why actually exploding

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alaitalk is actually an Eldar win. This is huge. This should happen in an Eldar book.

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You know what? If you have pushed me out to a B, I would say B.

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If you like, like call it, if you just stick to their general lore, they're so, every single

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unit in the Eldar is really cool and unique. Like there's no things that are overly similar

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to each other. They're really flexible with it too. Because

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like you can make the Eldar, you know, have these like deep, compelling characters. You

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know, you got Prince Uriel, you've got, you know, Eldrad, you've got what your Vrain could

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have been if, you know, Ynari stuff didn't happen. But if you don't want to do that,

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you can make them like, you know, Fae elves where it's like, they're going to come out

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of nowhere. They're going to give the guy to your right a handshake and all the money

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he could want. And then they're going to shoot you because they're operating on a plan you

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just don't know. Like you do so much with them.

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They're super alien in the books. Like same hand has some wacky like upside down forests

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and they all float on these little wacky disks. Like they're all, they're very unique and

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they have their moments.

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I think we do have a, yeah. I think Beatty, Andy Beatty. The Phoenix Lords are cooler than

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Primus.

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I just gave up on the lore. The lore is part of the aesthetics as well. It's not necessarily

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just the tabletop minions.

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Bro, every, they're really cool.

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You boys are fine. All right. Like if you look at the, if you look at the Custodes Codex

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and read the Custodes Codex.

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I just gave it a B.

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Come on.

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The Salamanders, you know, the Lamenters, the supposed best good guys in the setting.

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When was the last time they built a soup kitchen, Andy? Because Acerman did that.

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They made the soup kitchen with their blood. It was inferred.

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We do have quite a few donations.

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Anyway, we'll try to keep up boys because they were, they're quite on point. The next

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one is though, well, Asher Millatarum slash the guard. I mean.

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On S tier, bro, every guard book I've read has been enjoyable. I've never read a bad

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guard book, even though most of them just all die in the end. But they have, you know,

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they have Cyphus Kane. They have every character in the old Imperial Guard Codexes. They have

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every Imperial Guard Regiment, which is all quite unique from each other. They're the

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freaking heroes. They're heroes.

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Have I said something wrong? Is it Cyphus?

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No, it's Kyphus.

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Kyphus, sorry.

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Oh my God. I knew she was like, cause I'm making a video.

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Speaking of names, I, as someone who's almost finished every Acer Millatarum Regiment lore

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that I could do. Some of them would just have weird fun names like Lugnam Sewer Rats. Hello

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Lugnums. They have weird lore as well as good lore. Like, Oh, do you want to know about

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the Drukian Fen Guard? You basically trade the equivalent of space cows to the Acer Millatarum.

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And if they can't produce enough meat, they're like, all right, then you can have my son.

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All right. That's fun. That's some world building. I like it. It's cool.

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Also, also.

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Kyphus Kane, Yarik, Gorn's Goat.

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Imperial Guard also includes Imperial Army lore in my opinion. So Great Crusade stuff

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too.

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Surely got to be honest.

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They're totally interesting.

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Well, Andy, I think there's quite some of them.

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Yeah, I think we should do that.

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We should probably try to keep her just cause.

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Nolan Baker has been a member for a month and says, why does Colin look shirtless in

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the merch?

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Like, look at me, dog. Like my wife told me this looks exactly like your skin.

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So you picked the color for me.

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Set. Got it for five bucks. It's got a hold of Prince Uriel and got a say. Not bad in

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my opinion. Enjoy building them.

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Heck yeah. He's so awesome. He's such a cool model.

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Tom Warren for five bucks. The leagues of Votan have a video game full of their lore.

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It's not a Warhammer game, but it still exists. It's literally not the same thing.

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That whole lore is April fools.

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I love Rock and Stone.

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Honey, it's a beautiful sunny Friday. The law crimes gang is streaming and I can hear

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the arguments coming with this list. Glorious and Stigma's blessings.

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Thank you.

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Incline back up 30 squigglies. If any of the worshipers of Gorka Morka brackets and Boingod

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by association.

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Get below a beat. I will rotisserie chicken you like.

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Boingod a stronger soldier.

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Like it's also good to be back from army and in a stream finally. Thank you Incline back

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up.

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We gotta send this guy a Boingod merch once we get there.

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Brian Ryback's two bucks, Voltum Terror book series. That was the one with the custodians

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on the phone.

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That's the one.

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Yeah.

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Galactic Starrr- Styr- Styr- Barr. Styr- Barr. Jesus Christ. Two bucks.

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I'm leaving you.

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You get excited about the toasters for Angrake.

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It's a classic.

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It depends how many slots they have.

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Angry Hamongos are five pounds. If the Elder were more like J.K. Simmons from Baldur's

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Gate 3, great.

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I saw that one. I don't get it.

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If I knew who that was, yeah.

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Spider-Man. Curse you, Spider-Man.

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J. Jonah Jameson.

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Yeah, J. Jonah. He's also been flashed in that movie.

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I can't remember the name of the villain he plays in Baldur's Gate 3. He's like an immortal

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elf.

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J.K. Simmons, Baldur's Gate.

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He's like a servant of the source, to be honest. But that guy's so intimidating.

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Heatherick. Yeah, I didn't get that far into Baldur's Gate.

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We got another donation, but it's a bit edgy, guys.

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I'll take the E.

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Okay.

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H. Neela for the 5 BGN. Lore crimes have the best lore. They'll join the Taliban.

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That'd be quite the story.

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I didn't know they were fans of Warhammer. What's going on?

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Christ alive.

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I like elites.

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What is this?

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Is that Oak Kingdoms?

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No way.

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He's got an axe.

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Can we zoom in? Can we zoom in on that?

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Enhance image.

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Is that a corn guy? What is that?

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What are you?

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There is an AOS.

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Looks like Age of Sigmar.

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Yeah, I think that's a corn guy. He has two axes.

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Could be most corny.

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They don't have most corny.

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That's what it is. Blades of blades of corn.

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I don't know that existed, bro. So F, I guess. I don't know.

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They're not too bad. They are trying some new...

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Oh yeah, blades of corn.

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They're trying some new interesting characters with that one. Like variations on their wall

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leaders. Again, it's very like it needs longer to cook a lot of Age of Sigmar stuff. So I

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mean, I've had to put it in D just because I know it's like, it's not dog water, but

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like it's... it's not completely hate. Like I hate it.

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The backstory to the Age of Sigmar was after they basically conquered the mortal realms.

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Corn turned around and fought all of the other chaos gods at once, which was, I don't know,

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it was pretty neat. I don't like corn, so I don't need to be convinced and not put it

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into D. Believe me, I'm here with you.

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Corn fighting all the gods at once was pretty freaking awesome.

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It was pretty cool. I'll give them that.

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Is that a factions lore though, or is that just general?

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That's just fact like general lore.

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Yeah.

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It was corn doing it and it's the blades of corn. I feel somewhat obligated to give it

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to them.

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Just unleashing his inner Randy Marsh.

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I ain't here no bell.

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Corn make a giant fist to punch a city. I haven't read that lore yet. He did empower

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Angra onto crack a moon. That was a thing.

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In Lewis time.

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Ah, demons is the next one.

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I mean...

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Do demons even have a evil?

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Are there any books where the demons are the main character other than Bellacor?

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It's hard because as it's general lore, demons are not uninteresting. There's one by, you

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know, corrupted Lorgar Ingothel, which we spoke about recently. If anyone wants to go

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check out our last Great Crusade episode, Colin's suffering.

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I'll never be free.

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I mean demons are kind of everywhere. Samus.

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They have cool characters. Everyone loves Scarbrand. Nikari is neat.

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Yeah, but again, they're more so what I was saying about the Mechanicus. They're not even

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the salad. They're like the ranch dressing. It's like you can season other factions with

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demons and stuff.

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Their Kojok's lore is really cool.

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Again, their Kojok's lore is cool. Blue Skies are cool.

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I think C-tier at least.

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I think they're more interesting than C-tier.

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Look, if demons were removed from Warhammer, it would feel incredibly weird. But at the

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same time, I wouldn't be that upset reading a book where chaos isn't the surprise bad

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guy without fault.

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Yeah.

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But like that same line of logic of Custodes, if Custodes were removed from Warhammer, I

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wouldn't even notice.

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Bad point.

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I think they deserve C. They do more than Custodes.

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Yeah, that's true.

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And their characters are very cool.

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Scarbrand showing up is always fun.

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Is that all night?

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Chaos nights.

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Chaos nights.

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I have not read a Chaos Nights book.

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Can we put Chaos Demons above Custodes for a single line like thing Scarbrand does?

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Okay.

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Well, thank all I was trying to summon a greater demon of the Horned Rat and Scarbrand showed

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up instead. And Scarbrand just says, I'm sorry. He just basically goes, he couldn't pick up

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the phone. I'm here instead. And he's just starting to mobilize rats and dwarves.

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Demons have double the lore because they're in both cities.

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Yeah.

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Oh, he's appeared. Khabanda's mighty shlom of Cygnus. We summoned him while he's speaking

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to us.

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Nice.

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Are there any Chaos Nights books? I have not read one. If there is any.

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I mean, technically you could talk about House Divine in the Horus Heresy series where they're

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like, Slaresh corrupted, but it's not a book for them, but they are heavily in that book.

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Something doesn't have to have a book like with Eldar. They don't have a huge ton of

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books, but they still have a lot of their surrounding lore.

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How much codex lore does the Knights even have?

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The Knights in the Chaos Nights are like, I'm glad they're here, but...

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Should we cover them at the same time just to save a bit?

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Yeah.

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I feel like Imperial Knights have more than Chaos Knights.

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They do.

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Yeah. They have houses.

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Mechanicum or whatever houses. It makes Knights pretty cool. Just that book alone.

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Lord Hyde, Lord Conorum. Andy Wos is the name of the guy.

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The Eradicator. Yeah, he's got a whole thing. I promise I'm going to do a video one day,

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and it's just gonna be that is most of it. And I'll just say, he is so-and-so, so-and-so.

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And then it ends, and that's the whole video.

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I kinda like it when they show up quite a lot though with Knights.

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It's always fun when a Knight shows up.

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Well, the thing is, some of the loyalist ones have cool stuff. I think it's House Fironi,

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they actually kill like, like, Godzilla's on their home planet.

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They kill like gigantic beasts, and that's their thing, because they're called God Slayers.

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And it's like, that's pretty cool. And then some of them are like, oh, there's another house.

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They covered their pirates, so Horus found them. And they were like, we'll be good boys now.

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And then he became a traitor, and they went, oh, we can be bad boys again.

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So like, they thrived during the Horus heresy. There's some like interesting stuff,

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but again, there's only a bit of it in the Horus heresy.

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And I tried to do a series on Knight houses, and I did four.

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And I was like, oh, that's practically all the lore they have. Damn.

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They needed a bit of lore.

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I think of like a free-blader game, but yeah.

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It's like in Betrayal, and they like have the war dog ones,

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and like they run around like packs, and they pull down like a titan by like injecting spears in it.

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Oh yeah, that was the Ursus Claw.

456
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:36,560
Yeah, they... I mean, knights are kind of... I don't know if... I feel like DT is almost too mean,

457
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:41,560
but again, like I don't know if anyone is that gassed about knights.

458
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,560
Imperial Knights for sure deserves E.T.R.

459
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:51,560
Do I dare mention Dawn of War 3? There was a playable titan character, wasn't there?

460
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:52,560
Yeah.

461
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,560
Yeah, that was like... Dawn of War 3 had a couple good things,

462
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,560
and then the rest of Dawn of War 3 has to be there.

463
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:04,560
And there was a free-blade game, and there was a DLC for Inquisitor where you played as a titan free-blade.

464
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,560
It's like, why? Why do I play as a titan? Why not?

465
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,560
Okay.

466
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:10,560
They're cool.

467
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,560
They're cooler than Chaos Knights for sure, even though the designs for Chaos Knights are cooler.

468
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,560
Yeah, the designs for Chaos Knights are cooler.

469
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,560
It's not ranked off their Minutes, though.

470
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,560
Chaos Spice Marines.

471
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,560
I think I'll just be quiet here.

472
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,560
I don't like Spice Marines?

473
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:38,560
Because I look at the Chaos Space Marines, I feel like, alright, how about I'll start nice?

474
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:44,560
That might be the single best 40k Codex cover. That is unbelievably cool.

475
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,560
That's pretty good. I think they deserve A, too.

476
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:53,560
I think I look at them... you see, that goes hard. I'm not gonna lie, that art goes so hard.

477
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:58,560
But the problem is, I look at that art and I go, damn, these guys are evil. What have they got for me?

478
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:03,560
And then I hear, I hate my dad so much.

479
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:04,560
So bad.

480
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:09,560
We have that. To be fair, you do have that, but you also have things like Sindri.

481
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,560
Sindri!

482
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,560
If you're on Blackheart, it's cool.

483
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,560
Their highs are really high, their lows are pretty low.

484
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,560
Word Pairs, Biond Warriors, Calphe Legion.

485
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,560
I think there are at least 8. There's so much lore.

486
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,560
Yeah, there is so much lore.

487
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,560
Knight Lord Trilogy?

488
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,560
Oh, Knight Lords.

489
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:33,560
That's good.

490
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,560
Yeah, give them F tier for the Knight Lord Trilogy.

491
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,560
Bro.

492
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,560
Have you read the...

493
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,560
I think 8 tiers is sort of interesting.

494
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,560
I've started reading it. I will forever mauled about Jain Czar.

495
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:46,560
Yeah.

496
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,560
But there's a thing, it's like, jumping back out...

497
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:56,560
It's so vast, they have really highs, they have really lows, but the main unifying thing is they have like...

498
00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:01,560
Is it fair to say the second most lore because they are space marines and loyalists have more?

499
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:06,560
But then like, chaos space marines are also everywhere all the time, so yeah, they have stuff.

500
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,560
And they're really cool when they show up in books.

501
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:10,560
I miss them.

502
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,560
Surely, lore-wise, they're better than the mechanics.

503
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,560
Oh, here we go.

504
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,560
Cities of Sigmar.

505
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:23,560
I'm going to say...

506
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,560
High C, low B.

507
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,560
They've got some pretty cool stuff that's cooked up.

508
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,560
They've got like...

509
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:39,560
I think one thing I like a lot is when they did their big model refresh they had lately that updated them from just being like old fantasy models.

510
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:45,560
They created this character and the whole idea was like she just reformed their entire goddamn military.

511
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:50,560
Because as it turns out, guy with spear is a...

512
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:58,560
You know, Faith Steel and gunpowder is good, but also goddamn Scarbrand is right there. I'd like to have your gun.

513
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,560
Can I ask you a question, Colin?

514
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,560
Yes.

515
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:11,560
A prominent YouTube Age of Sigmar player I heard recently say in his opinion, they shouldn't have made Stormcast Eternals the poster boys of the Age of Sigmar.

516
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,560
It should have been Cities of Sigmar.

517
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:19,560
That's pretty big.

518
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:24,560
That was a big sigh.

519
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:29,560
I get where that opinion comes from, and I don't completely disagree with it.

520
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:37,560
But I also kind of like that they tried to make the Stormcast the same level as Space Marines, and it didn't pan out.

521
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:47,560
Because as a side effect, in my opinion, it ended up giving the Stormcast more depth than they would have otherwise had if they were just, look guys, it's the Space Marines again.

522
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,560
But now they're on the ground.

523
00:31:50,560 --> 00:32:00,560
I think it would have just felt like they were trying to recreate fancy but with a new layer of paint on it, rather than...

524
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,560
Which is kind of what they did, yeah. Originally.

525
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:15,560
I think the big problem they had was like, once you've got Stormcast Eternals and they all look gold and blue, or a little bit silver, it's kind of like, you can't distinguish them from one another.

526
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:26,560
But now those Cities of Sigmar has more personality in terms of like, ah, they have actual faces and more character, and they're not as, I guess, homogenized maybe?

527
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,560
They're not as copy-pasted as Stormcast Eternals?

528
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:36,560
Although I'm gonna bring up that color compliment when we get to the actual Space Marines, Andy. I'm gonna hold you to that sentence.

529
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:37,560
Alright, alright.

530
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:59,560
They're cool. They've got some stuff cooking now. Like there's this religious prophet lady who, on the one hand, single-handedly ruined the Cities of Sigmar military campaign, because she started seeing Sigmar's holy light in fucking wheels.

531
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:14,560
She went off her rocker. But also, I know, describing it like that is weird, but like, see, in the lore, it's like, you know what? That's pretty cool. I hate you. You ruined everything that, you know, the other lady who reformed their entire military and kicked ass did. You kind of ruined what she did.

532
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:20,560
But also, you ruined it in a war hammer way. So you know what? Fair enough. I'm glad you're here.

533
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:21,560
Respectable.

534
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,560
Well, Dark Angels.

535
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,560
I think Dark Angels suffer from the same thing the Eldar suffer from.

536
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,560
No one who writes their books likes Dark Angels.

537
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:43,560
Their Codex lore is so cool. They have the best aesthetic of any Space Marine chapter of the Legion. And then you read their books and they're just like, they're just such dicks. They're just so awful.

538
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:44,560
Yeah.

539
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:56,560
They're a bit on the older side of some of those books, though. They're kind of more in the grim dark vibe of when they were like properly grim dark.

540
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:11,560
I like Persian of Codilus. I think they're actually pretty nice. But I just finished War of Secrets for a second time. And they spend the whole Book of War of Secrets just, oh, we're brainwashing our primaries. Oh, we're going to kill all the angels of absolution. We're going to make deals with the Tau.

541
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:18,560
Or even the new Cipher book. It's like, we're going to invade the Imperial Palace and kill a custodian if we have to. Guys, what are you doing?

542
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,560
There's a falling on the planet again.

543
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,560
And it's the big warrior.

544
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:38,560
And the thing where like seven of them gang up on a custodian and he kills like so many of them instantly. And because they have a librarian called Mordecai, they kind of get away with it. But it's like, dude, dude, that's a custodian. What are you doing?

545
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:45,560
The Dark Angels would be great with nursing home residents because all of their lore is about falling.

546
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:51,560
Me, a Black Library author, trying desperately not to write another book about the fallen plot line.

547
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,560
I'm falling.

548
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:59,560
Lion Sons of the Forest is a good book. It's a problem for the Dark Angels.

549
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:10,560
It's confirmed my fear for one of the outcomes of the fallen getting resolved, which is it's a big old wet fart of nothing. Oh, by the way, the Primarch is back and we're done. Everyone's happy and loves each other now.

550
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,560
Yeah, that's all right.

551
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,560
And as real as it's still on the loose.

552
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:24,560
But like the rest of the fallen are just like Lionel Johnson is just going around like, are you chaos corrupted? No. All right, come on in, buddy.

553
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:38,560
Yeah, it's going to suck it up. It's going to be a really difficult balancing act. Whoever does like Lion versus Luther and maybe also what's the Demon Prince Dark Angel?

554
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:51,560
He's got like a lion's face. He broke Marv. Marv. Yeah, Marv is the guy who broke him out and he's a Demon Prince. He's like the only Demon Prince from the Dark Angels and say, that's kind of unique, like him and Luther.

555
00:35:51,560 --> 00:36:00,560
Are you going to do like a whole series of books about that? Are they then going to like kill them all? And then it's like, oh, we just have Dark Angels no more fallen ever again.

556
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:09,560
It has the problem of like, yes, it resolves a plot line. But also now, what do you do with the fallen? Yeah. What do you do with Cypher? Guy Hayley, he just writes like a slap on the wrist.

557
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:21,560
I don't know. That man is willing like he'll properly put in there like and then the loyal, the actual chapter Dark Angels secretly were killing loyalists fallen. He'll do it because they already did.

558
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:32,560
Especially with the revelation that the Emperor speaks directly to Cypher in his book and he just he's like on the threshold to the throne room. He's just like, be gone fought. And he goes, OK, like, well, OK.

559
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:40,560
So that whole book was kind of pointless, I guess he says not yet. And then something like all back in a bit. Yeah, he goes, be gone. Yeah.

560
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:48,560
I honestly think they should be like the right is like low B or high C just because they're static is cool.

561
00:36:48,560 --> 00:37:00,560
They're overarching lore was really good. And then you read a Dark Angels book and I fall and I fall and I fall and I can't get up and I fall and I fall and I fall and the whole extra fall and hold the falling on the side.

562
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,560
They just go below Eldar and beats here. That's fine.

563
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:23,560
Because I have the same thing. I will say if they make an animated short in the style of like 1930s American cartoons or as Maddai is just sitting there watching the lion bring back all these fallen and he's like that steam coming out of his ears like Popeye the Sailor Man instantly will bring it up to S tier because that would be the funniest.

564
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:32,560
What's the name of the Looney Tunes guy? He's like, I'm going to get that rabbit. But it's it's looking for the fallen. I've got to get that dastardly cipher.

565
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,560
We're getting that guy's name.

566
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,560
That guy.

567
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,560
What is this?

568
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,560
That's the in some less tier for Colin.

569
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:42,560
I look.

570
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,560
How about I try and justify it. How about we start with that.

571
00:37:46,560 --> 00:38:04,560
I won't start with the exact reason Eli said yes here for Colin. Look, the cities of Sigmar pardon me daughters of Kane, or why I like AOS is plotline so much because it just moves things happen, and people are allowed to do big things.

572
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:20,560
Marathi started Age of Sigmar getting backhanded by Nagash because she kept trying to worm her way in with everyone, and she had the wonderful idea of trying to seduce the skeleton, which went as well as you would think.

573
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:37,560
She was humiliated. She set up the cult of Kane and was like, Hey, hey everyone, look, I'm gonna, we're gonna bring back Kane, I have his heart, we found his remnants, we worship it. We're gonna bring back Kane, which could happen, except she was lying siphoning the power for herself.

574
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:53,560
And if that plotline were to happen in 40 K or even I would even say fantasy. It would have either never happened and she would have always been on the brink of becoming Marathi Kane, or it would have been you know read and gone wrong and we'd be back to square one.

575
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,560
She did it. She's a full fledged goddess now.

576
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:12,560
That's cool. All I can say is seduce the skeleton sounds like some kind of weird carnival game is good like kind of like seduce the skeleton with a prize. I would honestly say eight here because it's like just things happen with the daughters of Kane you can see their society

577
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:22,560
like splitting now because some of them are like, I do not like Marathi. It turns out she was lying to us because she's a god and I don't see Kane anywhere.

578
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:34,560
Others are like well, she's got a good point now I'll take your word for it being a but I don't know if top of a is just bringing it down a bit, but also, it's really cool.

579
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:41,560
Like their daughters of pain war is honestly really interesting and actually goes places.

580
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:42,560
Cool.

581
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:56,560
And donations before the nation.

582
00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:00,560
Tom Warren, my, my favorite demon law is when got trick kills them.

583
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,560
Thanks. Absolutely mad lad.

584
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,560
Hell yeah.

585
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,560
I read this one.

586
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:16,560
Commanders mighty shlong of sickness how ducking dare you. Thank you for our bro.

587
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,560
Caleb Collins two bucks.

588
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:35,560
Sabunda he wrote a fight with Sadie eternity was great. Sandy got Hannah read Simon totally crimson crimson crimson crimson.

589
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,560
Reminds me of the pink much on the ground.

590
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,560
After sounding to Eli's heart.

591
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:47,560
Anyways, love the content.

592
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,560
I think I hate all of you.

593
00:40:50,560 --> 00:41:00,560
For five euros I want to thank you Colin I'm learning where to put reflections on my non metallic metal sphere thanks to your forehead cheese.

594
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,560
You know what.

595
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:08,560
That was almost a compliment if you look really hard at ignore half the message.

596
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:19,560
Five bucks, who did more damage the dark angels or the alpha Legion also also woo woo.

597
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,560
The true Phoenix King.

598
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:22,560
That's right.

599
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,560
We got the first time.

600
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:25,560
I'll take this one.

601
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,560
Okay.

602
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,560
They're asking me.

603
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:40,560
Thank you man USA with the five you're an ancient malakith and we're at these four inches in you person bus first count me.

604
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:41,560
Wow.

605
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,560
We can go.

606
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:59,560
I'm like, there's some cool stuff in there.

607
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:13,560
I'm like designs more Tarion is a cool looking demon Primark. They have some cool moments but then a lot of it just like there's some frustration there.

608
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:29,560
I think this is really good with the warband next.

609
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:46,560
It's like I'm a god, a lot of stuff it would probably be top of C, because I know they're like reasonably light and they're not bad, but honestly they have, they do have some banging books, they are in fighting white scars a lot of the time, and it's quite good to have that contrast losing.

610
00:42:46,560 --> 00:43:03,560
I mean, yeah, the shame. The thing I find difficult about them is like they actually surprisingly have a lack of characters in it is like was it typhus and more Tarion that's kind of it, and then, or in the laws, I have some weird stuff.

611
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:18,560
They do have some weird stuff like there was one time a death guard. He's a main character, he's a character. I can't remember his name is like poxilax or something. He like, he, he fought the sons of dawn chapter master, Alexander Ross the great who died from a wound

612
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:34,560
that was infected with poison, and then every chapter master has to drink his poisoned blood, which led to Alexander Ross the mad. And then there's a new one called Alexander Ross the blind who's actually, he's a blank, so he can quell like psychers.

613
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:40,560
And I was like, that's a really specifically weird story and it's kind of cool. Thanks, death guard.

614
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,560
But again, they're not like tangents.

615
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:58,560
They're slightly related away from me you smell. Yeah, I think I'm comfortable with them being there because they're not better than anything above them on the list, and they're not worse than anything below them so I mean yeah mid, they are like the most mid of mid.

616
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:03,560
They are undoubtedly part of the setting.

617
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:13,560
I love this comment from angry him because his name is not that yet his name was it is is Alexander Ross the great that's his quite wonderful.

618
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,560
And sometimes they don't try.

619
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,560
It was a homebrew, and then it became canon.

620
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,560
No, it has Asia in the jar. Wow.

621
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:26,560
Disciples of zinch.

622
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:31,560
That go here is so cool.

623
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:37,560
You know, zinch doesn't really do much in fantasy.

624
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,560
Didn't really change that trend.

625
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:47,560
I also think they kind of the way they have it as like non space Marines engine stuff it looks kind of goofy.

626
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:52,560
I'm going to fight you on that this guy is this one.

627
00:44:52,560 --> 00:45:07,560
No, no, not as angle I mean like the cultist and all that's like their cultists and that their human followers look a bit. I'm pulling up the disciples of zinch. They're just they're just blokes who are wearing like a blue shin pad like that's every chaos cultist.

628
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,560
It's all of them.

629
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:15,560
The like the corner.

630
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:22,560
The zinchi ones look really good. The zinchi ones do like go above and beyond.

631
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:27,560
No good ones are easy like to get a cool vibe from but the zinchi ones is hard to.

632
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:33,560
It's just have this have a lot more like mutated monsters and like crazy eldritch stuff they don't really.

633
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:42,560
You know I mean I, where's my, where's my Nihilata tap, like in the middle of the battlefield making people literally eat their own hands because they're going crazy or something.

634
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:50,560
Crazy stuff. I like the zinchi guy who's the two brothers fuse together.

635
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:56,560
Yeah, village and other guy who cares like Tom.

636
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,560
The big, the big burly one the week.

637
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:05,560
Yeah, but but but now they like they upgraded the trope by just fusing them into one being.

638
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:12,560
Yeah, and yeah D tier for me honestly. I don't really care enough to argue that.

639
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:24,560
You know what, you know what, I want to put in a because I find comorah fascinating. I was going to know the units are that enough.

640
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:40,560
I mean like comorah itself, Vax, they are like, they're looking unique because they're, they're not a good they don't have a government, it's a crime syndicate as a whole faction cabal's don't like.

641
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:45,560
There's no tax policy, it's a protection racket where you pay back to not die. Yeah.

642
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:54,560
It's funny when a good any drew car he looks at Fabio spiral and they see what he's doing they go. Cute, like what are you guys up to.

643
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,560
I've not really read a story.

644
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:05,560
I also like they even train Fabio so they were like hey we'll teach you some nasty shit and he's like, okay.

645
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:13,560
They're amused by him. Yeah, nubs to have a hand at his hands in this dark age.

646
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:25,560
Yeah, so good. So dark elder also do something that I swear to God, I don't think any other Zenos faction truly gets, which is that in their specific field.

647
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:38,560
Everyone just gives them credit for without arguing. Like everyone you know everyone's going to argue Oh can an incubus beat you know chapter master, you know, biggest dick is Maximus and one v1.

648
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:45,560
And he argues, though, if he does lose that he should do anything but try and blow his head off immediately.

649
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:50,560
Everyone gives the dark elder their credit of, yeah, that's horrifying.

650
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,560
I vibe with them. I like, I like dark.

651
00:47:54,560 --> 00:48:09,560
At least most times if they show up in stories, they're actually quite an interesting adversary is interesting.

652
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:25,560
They do get completely wrecked and whether the warhammer TV shows though it's the blood angels origins, where it's like, oh, the sword of violence been immobilized by the true cari and they're just kind of dicking around and then the crew managed to like, help the ship

653
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:32,560
in zero G and just blast it at close range and they all die and they look smug and then they're like, it's okay.

654
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:40,560
And there was the, and there was the iron within where the iron war is completely more than completely.

655
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:53,560
They have the problem that any Zenos faction does when space marines are also in the book that space means just magically when you have has bricks did something almost unheard of had a good Zenos book, and an L good elder book.

656
00:48:53,560 --> 00:49:03,560
Although to be fair, the example was baseline humans it wasn't space means it was just dudes, it was just dudes manning a cannon, it was great.

657
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:10,560
I don't know if they want to agree to put a bottom of a.

658
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,560
Okay, they earned their spot I think.

659
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,560
Oh, I actually love these guys so much.

660
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:23,560
They're pretty sick.

661
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:39,560
Imagine the most noble of nightly houses, led by super king Arthur he's the most chivalrous guy you will ever meet all of you know, the lords and ladies of the court are elegant and graceful, and they go out to genuinely in their eyes they they will protect

662
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:53,560
them and they go out into the mortal realms to defend you know the oppressed from chaos from the other factions and death from you know orcs from you know, even order when Marathi is acting up.

663
00:49:53,560 --> 00:50:09,560
You look at them from the outside, and it is a cannibal army of ghouls, eating you alive, but in their mind, they're fighting honorable one v ones and saving the day, and also that insanity is contagious.

664
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:24,560
You will become an honorable night yourself who just so happens to eat people and use their bones and taking it to the extreme if you can't beat them, join them.

665
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:39,560
And insane vampires. I don't know why like the general like thing about their law, their shtick is generally one of the more cooler things, I think to AOS, it's not really done anywhere else.

666
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,560
I would honestly put them in B tier. They're very cool.

667
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:49,560
It is a, you can do a lot of different stuff with the specifics of their insanity.

668
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:54,560
And I think that the shuram is leading them.

669
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:59,560
It's so hard to separate that model from the floor. Oh my because it's so good.

670
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,560
But I'm trying.

671
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,560
Also Eli, any comment that these are actually Bretonians, I've heard that.

672
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,560
Perhaps, perhaps.

673
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,560
I mean if that's what Bretonni turned into them good.

674
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,560
Show them for what they really are.

675
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:19,560
Probably my favorite curse ever.

676
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:30,560
Which is, they can snap out of their insanity. And then they realized for the past 10 years they've been going around eating and murdering people when they thought they were a knight, and they usually just slip back, they just go and say it again.

677
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,560
That's depressing.

678
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,560
Love it.

679
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:47,560
Hang on, this is their lore, give them a C. They have pretty cool lore about like how their clans work, and how their mercenaries who, yeah they're on the side of order.

680
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:52,560
But if you pay him enough for gold, you know that chaos warband is paying us, we'll do it.

681
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,560
Collecting the dead gold of their gold.

682
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,560
Yeah, their dead god Grimnir.

683
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:11,560
They have some really fun interactions with you know our boy Gottrick, when he wishes they would go anywhere but around him but they don't because he's kind of an avatar of Grimnir now.

684
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:18,560
Their lore is really cool. It's not the most you know expansive but it's cool, just please don't ever look at their models.

685
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,560
I love 50 take it or nothing.

686
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:30,560
Grimnir die was it like when Sonic gets hit he loses all his like coins.

687
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,560
Yeah, probably see.

688
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:37,560
I think these almost too harsh.

689
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,560
The model range would be the model range would be F.

690
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,560
Yeah.

691
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,560
Inspired by Goblins.

692
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,560
I don't know a thing about these guys.

693
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:54,560
They're, they're neat.

694
00:52:54,560 --> 00:53:04,560
They're a little bit more like they worship the moon, and whenever they invade and like the weeks preceding mushrooms start growing on everything and spiders will just magically appear.

695
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:16,560
It's really it's honestly really like kind of horrifying, but also, they're still Goblins so you know that there's a small part in the got in a God track book where they're about to invade somewhere and this guy's dark he's like he's basically being

696
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:25,560
taunted by the moon in their realm because eventually he literally is going mad he just says to his servants. I swear the moon had a face on it and then it smiled.

697
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,560
So they somehow corrupt.

698
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:44,560
It was the Zelda moon to say going in space. I don't know, they're cool and I like them but at the same time I can't bring myself to really have passion for maybe below lowest policy, maybe.

699
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:48,560
No, it's not.

700
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:59,560
I lowest part of see I guess I don't like D is objectively bad see is see is like, and it's all right. I guess yeah put it put them at the bottom of see either there.

701
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:04,560
Yeah, I wouldn't be happy if they were gone, but I also wouldn't be sad.

702
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:16,560
Great nights are great. I love the night ward. I love her nights, they their lore has changed drastically over the years, but I think they're really cool. I think they're.

703
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:28,560
They are what custodians should have been. We should just never talked about custodians great night should be the only hyper elite space marine army in the game, and the best thing about the

704
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:35,560
and to be fair they also have nights errant law which is also really interesting and cool and focal for the horrors heresy from day one.

705
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:42,560
Yeah, I'd give them asked here though I give them asked here for Calderon.

706
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:58,560
Yeah, because I'm not sure it's like, it doesn't have like the best books in the or like law in the entire series, but generally like if I feel like border space marines great nights don't really have that same feeling that they are interesting they don't operate

707
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:02,560
the same way which is space marine chapter does Titan.

708
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:17,560
They have some damn good books as well they have their own kind of old now but their own trilogy. I think at that moment, was it was it one of you I just I got any. Can I, can I offer a counter to all of that.

709
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:22,560
Andy circus is a great night.

710
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,560
Can we just put them in here.

711
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,560
I agree.

712
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:32,560
Oh, Drago on the grand masters.

713
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:39,560
Enville thorn, the unkillable space marine, who is maybe one of the best sword, Aaron Crow.

714
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,560
Yeah, there's a bit of your.

715
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:56,560
It's it is the trilogy one where the lead, the lead great night like asked to come up to the command deck. He's also taught with his brothers about like you know what's going to talk to the captain about and he ends up bringing all of them with it because

716
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:00,560
it wouldn't be in by himself.

717
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:12,560
Also lest we not forget Colin that Grey Knights fourth brotherhood were helping Gilliam and during the Terran crusade. Very helpful for getting him back on the phone world.

718
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,560
The months, the months of shame exists.

719
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:19,560
Yeah.

720
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:26,560
You see but that I'm saving that for when I bitch incessantly about the space will

721
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:30,560
be the next one.

722
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:32,560
I'm with you like I think we've been overruled.

723
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:38,560
One is that he's a nice.

724
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:48,560
I don't know any friggin Sigmar Lord, I'd say just bottom of B, because there again they're like age of Sigmar is kind of a lot of like actively moving plot lines and their whole baby.

725
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,560
Well they got that signal and his asses chaps.

726
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:59,560
They're cool. They're like looking for so much and they're there they are slowly but surely like getting there like so much has been breaking your chains a bit.

727
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:06,560
I didn't have deepkins and that's cool. I just can't hold it back because like that is that is then.

728
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:11,560
Oh, is that as it wasn't here.

729
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:16,560
I don't, I don't know if I'd say yes here but I would say to you definitely.

730
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:22,560
I love underwater stuff.

731
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:27,560
Thank you for listening to that. I just I'm I'm fine with anything underwater honestly.

732
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,560
I'm just 100% though.

733
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:41,560
The Lord thing is kind of grim darky in Asia Sigmar because they kind of not good guys but like they're like you know enemy of my enemies my friend.

734
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:47,560
Giant turtle.

735
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,560
Please present to the audience. I like turtles.

736
00:57:50,560 --> 00:58:04,560
I would put them above the dark elder, because they're, they're like if someone like was given like the basics of the dark elder and said hey, make them not awful.

737
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:05,560
Yeah.

738
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:22,560
Oh, that's fine. Ah, they're like, you know, they got the same kind of like general stick, but the they're actively like, how do we, how do we not have to do this, I don't like stealing people's souls to live, but I also really don't want to die.

739
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:37,560
They're like, they're like a fight is called they have like the mess was the miss called again the energy, they bring the ocean with them. They literally fight in the water, but in air like around people like it's just so cool and I'm going to see.

740
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:56,560
I'm gonna get amnesia about it. Oh, I was is so cool. And then I love their background their army book rule, their lore it's really cool. I've never read a single carriage and book, I off the top my head couldn't tell you if one exists.

741
00:58:56,560 --> 00:59:04,560
I think, but I really love Bioshock.

742
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:08,560
Man chooses. Where did they live.

743
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:09,560
He.

744
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:13,560
No, no, no.

745
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:19,560
Andy Come on Bioshock dwarves you can't tell me that's not at least a little bit intriguing. Yeah, this guy speaks you.

746
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:25,560
Yeah, but you haven't even played Bioshock Come on.

747
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:30,560
That's not Bioshock that's out that's Bioshock infinite you got

748
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:34,560
to know what you're talking about.

749
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,560
You're trying to relate to in there.

750
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:44,560
Yeah, but they're more infinite than anything they live in these floating sky fortresses, but Bioshock infinite slight.

751
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,560
It's fine. Bioshock one.

752
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:50,560
Peak peak. They're both good.

753
00:59:50,560 --> 01:00:00,560
No, no, no. Bioshock infinite is good but Bioshock one is a master. It's a masterpiece.

754
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:07,560
I play like once a year. It's amazing. Put them behind, put them behind the gloom spite gets at least please.

755
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:13,560
Yeah, I think we do have some more donations as well.

756
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:20,560
Thank you. Thank you. We miss you brother.

757
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:27,560
Thank you brother. It is a compliment for Colin. You are the reason I brought the Uriel model due to some propaganda. Thank you brother.

758
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,560
Huge.

759
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:30,560
Bean.

760
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Bean.

761
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Bean.

762
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763
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Bean.

764
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Bean.

765
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Bean.

766
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:37,560
Bean.

767
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Bean.

768
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769
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Bean.

770
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Bean.

771
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:42,560
Bean.

772
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:44,560
Thank you for the donation.

773
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:45,560
Thank you.

774
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:47,560
Quick quick quick.

775
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:48,560
Oh, yeah, yeah.

776
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,560
Go to GW. You'll find it.

777
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:55,560
Hello, network host for five bucks. Hey, first time super chatting.

778
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:59,560
I was going to say chatting.

779
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:03,560
First time super chatting, painting light of Elpharian.

780
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:10,560
I'll call him all of that. Also looking to start my own Warhammer channel looking on style. I want it to go

781
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:15,560
the best advice is, or if they just keep making videos and eventually get better.

782
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:20,560
I know it like it is kind of generic, but it is generally the best advice.

783
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:22,560
Just start something and do it.

784
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,560
Because if you don't start, you're never going to know what works.

785
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:28,560
You're never going to know if you can do it.

786
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,560
You'll never get better if you don't start. So you've got to start.

787
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:37,560
The worst thing is when people, if they start it and they're like, oh, I've got this better idea and I'll just wait and then I'll do that one.

788
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:43,560
Honestly, like, because then you'll just stop at some point. You just got to keep going.

789
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,560
It's momentum. It's always momentum.

790
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,560
No matter how you feel about that first one, just commit and do it.

791
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,560
All of our first videos are terrible. Don't worry.

792
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,560
We literally could not listen to our own first videos.

793
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:56,560
It's the first me to do it.

794
01:01:56,560 --> 01:02:03,560
It's actually payable. We critique it and our voices are terrible.

795
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:12,560
Raw 666. Thank you. Yeah. He says Colin thought you should get good news read from overly sarcastic productions is an elder fan.

796
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:20,560
Also, Empire of Manchuket S rank for Carl, Imperium of Man B rank for constantly fall and not dying.

797
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:24,560
It's well, the first half of that. I do know that.

798
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:31,560
They gave me a heart on the comment I left on one of their videos, which gave me a little fanboy moment because I like that channel a lot.

799
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,560
And it was a comment about the ultramarines, baby.

800
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:37,560
You better be a star. We get huge.

801
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:46,560
But I'll be fighting when we get to the Empire of Man. I'll be I'll be arguing.

802
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:51,560
Tiago Silver for two.

803
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,560
Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it.

804
01:02:54,560 --> 01:03:03,560
I had a feeling I'm going to be angry. How dare you direct worshipers of point.

805
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:07,560
Actually, actually, we're the most direct.

806
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:11,560
You are.

807
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:28,560
We didn't. When is the next project going to feed its coverage stream? Probably not that far. Actually, we might be on that in a while.

808
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:30,560
That's actually a very good one.

809
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:36,560
Depending on it was a good one. Fair, because if it was for 40 K, it'd be the Dark Angels and S tier and everyone else like, baby.

810
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:45,560
We have. We have. Okay. Next one is easy.

811
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:51,560
Say, come on, ask for rock and stone. Come on, rock and stone.

812
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:57,560
Literally not. Yeah. And if all the bones hears you, he's going to wash your mouth out.

813
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:06,560
Well, he's going to give us all a pipe bomb for putting them enough.

814
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:18,560
I don't get it. Honestly, I think it's like it's just like he got swept up and like, oh, these guys look cool. And then like nothing's happened. And he's now like, I've committed. I've got the tattoo.

815
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:31,560
I'm I'm going to hold that. I do like the leagues of O-Ton, but I also accept I'm outnumbered three to one here. Bro, it actually has like, what have you read? Are you are you gas enough to put it in a higher tier?

816
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:35,560
Are you going to go buy that book? Yes.

817
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:37,560
That was wow.

818
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:50,560
That was quite high. I would argue at least D because the basics of them are cool. Like they're, you know, the space like they worship these living computers that are failing. They've got like it's all about mercantilism and commerce.

819
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:55,560
Let's let's reframe this for a second. So like just just at this point in time.

820
01:04:55,560 --> 01:05:08,560
If leagues of O-Ton are indeed, is there any conceivable faction that could be lower because they've got no law? What? I guess I understand. Yeah. But Tony is still coming up. Okay. Okay.

821
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:14,560
What are these guys doing?

822
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:16,560
I'm outnumbered. Do what you will.

823
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:25,560
It's a lot of the machine spirit, but in it.

824
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:29,560
Oh yeah. Luminous.

825
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:35,560
Wish I think preemptively I should put this at least.

826
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:45,560
Let's drag him down from here. I wanted to keep myself out of this for a minute. I'm informing someone of the slander that's just occurred.

827
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:50,560
Mr. Bones. Is it a particular Canadian we know?

828
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:55,560
Oh no. He'll be in the chat screaming at us. Luminous.

829
01:05:55,560 --> 01:06:10,560
Their models are so cool because I love the Greek elves. I love like the like the weird cavalry they have. I'm going to say it. I really love the rock cow. I like the rock cow. Yeah, it's awesome. It's so weird.

830
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:15,560
This is not about design, isn't it?

831
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:29,560
The lore being like they achieve like enlightenment through bonding with like elemental spirits is cool. Kind of reminds me of Avatar a bit. The airbender, not blue people. Who cares?

832
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:34,560
I can't say it's more exciting and more interesting than a flesh eater courts for me.

833
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:50,560
I see. It's they're still even they've still been getting a couple new stuff and blurbs and books. They're still missing half their lore because Tyrion has not shown up yet and half the nations based themselves on Tyrion.

834
01:06:50,560 --> 01:07:00,560
We've really only seen the Teclis based nations. Mr. Bones. Which I like Teclis more, but I kind of want his brother to show up eventually.

835
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:18,560
I mean, also a lot of their stuff would be interacting with whatever the hell Malekith is doing. Don't know that yet. That's C to I don't think it's a tear. I think it is from like it must be B and I'm willing to put it between dark angels and death.

836
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:31,560
I think it's better than death guard. That would honestly I mean I'm okay with that, but I would honestly go to right behind the flesh of your course. Yeah, I was I was gonna suggest it. I didn't have wasn't it get any wiggle room.

837
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:35,560
Yeah.

838
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:37,560
Quite a few to go.

839
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:41,560
No, I call stuff.

840
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:43,560
I don't know anybody.

841
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:52,560
What's the what's the AOS you know the boy it's not a good sign. I can't remember that is it.

842
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:58,560
No, the the the Glotkin are like that's like specifically a model like that's a character.

843
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:07,560
Oh boy that's this is not bode well for the maggot kin of Nergal. All right, I was right, but I didn't commit to it.

844
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:11,560
They sure smell and are here.

845
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:24,560
After you put up a D tier or F here I who cares. I know you leave the botanist for me it's I can't I can't leave them with the others then any hi.

846
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:26,560
We all agree in every year.

847
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,560
Come on, even me.

848
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:30,560
Literally top of this year.

849
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:41,560
Divine. I mean, I guess they are necrons character is cool. They didn't miss with a single necrons main character.

850
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:45,560
Wow, not all of them are cool. Like some of the ones from the Jaka reach a bit.

851
01:08:45,560 --> 01:09:03,560
The like the main codex guys I mean like Sandra can occur over on.

852
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:21,560
It is always a good time. I don't know if I could put it above God, just because I know some of the stuff in the gods got some worse stuff in it, but there's some very few spectacles of like, like true gleaming best warhammer in the guy.

853
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:34,560
Just, just the main cast of the necrons competing with Yarik Kane and and gaunt is already quite like an even match and then there's like a whole bunch of other asked military and stuff as well.

854
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:42,560
Yeah, that's fair. So, yeah, I would be remiss if I didn't give them a credit though Kyifus Kane is fought everyone in the galaxy.

855
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:53,560
I think Aaron the most are the necrons. Yeah. He would know. He would know fear he's quite familiar with fear night more spooky dead people.

856
01:09:53,560 --> 01:10:12,560
They're, they're kind of cool. They're looking Eric to me. They're like, yeah, you know what, because it's obviously got a gas. It's really in the gas. He's mainly he's amazing. I'm going to save my my negation glazing for the OCR.

857
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:27,560
Lady Allender her lures pretty cool and their overall stuff is you know it's like angry vengeful spirits that are partially angry and full because the gas tortured them to shut up.

858
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:31,560
I

859
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:46,560
know a guy who has 20,000 painted points of Nighthaunt.

860
01:10:46,560 --> 01:11:13,560
I don't know if I could put him in here but the song alone.

861
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:17,560
Like, please.

862
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:23,560
It's like a lesser version of the necrons where I'm never going to be upset when an ogre shows up.

863
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:34,560
You know I'm okay with it. I'm okay with it. Yeah. What's the next one. Love me.

864
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:36,560
Somewhere in a minimum.

865
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:53,560
I put the top of higher up higher up in a G, the og enemy bro. You know what I'm going to say as to why genuinely like you're done in in Warhammer is something like one of the best parts, explaining or people who don't know about

866
01:11:53,560 --> 01:12:08,560
Warhammer is one of the most enjoyable things about all just like, oh by the way, paint and color has different magic effects. You know I mean like a friend of mine did some voice work on my channel and she was like, oh yeah.

867
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:19,560
So and I got our box of like miniatures to get started. We were just talking about the factions and she was like, oh these guys are quite cool this world has more ones like orcs and like, did you know they're made of mushrooms, she was like,

868
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:23,560
I'm not sure what's my favorite faction because it's just they're just fun.

869
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:36,560
Yeah, shout out to my, my, my boy Ben, who went from playing his first game of 140 K only a few like a month ago, and then has already got 1500 points.

870
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:52,560
And shout out Ben. Is that scroll down a bit more Andy I just want to see if there's if that's. Alright, so that is going to be all of I think the orc orc orc lands that like there's like there's a couple different subtypes.

871
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:55,560
That's that's, this is a just another guy.

872
01:12:55,560 --> 01:13:15,560
I would say, not doing spite top of see that's like the orc work lands all of them. There's some cool stuff there, their main orc character is a like he's, he's for an orc for an orc is quite philosophical, because he's like I don't want to kill

873
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:22,560
everyone, because who would be left to fight, I'm not chaos, I don't want to, you know, soft goes or comedies.

874
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:34,560
Or can get where he's like, oh, chaos is whack. Why don't kill everything that's insane but also, I want to fight everything like all these order, you know pansies that's too much.

875
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:42,560
He's, he's an orc trying to find a middle ground which is just so funny. That's the craziest thing you've ever said, honestly, I know.

876
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:46,560
There's also the cruel boys.

877
01:13:46,560 --> 01:14:04,560
They're like Tolkien ask orcs given a warhammer flavors like they're scrawny either not like you know, eight feet tall and as wide. They're pretty cool. They're actually malicious. I know some people argue that warhammer 40k arcs are necessary malicious cruel boys are they like what

878
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,560
they do and what they do is hurt.

879
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:28,560
I'm not saying I believe it I'm just saying people have made the argument. Yeah, yeah, I'm just saying to those people read rinse well, you're bad guys works are not, but have you seen are always running their opinion.

880
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:37,560
I mean, the rings of power with the, the orc child.

881
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:49,560
I'm not even, I'm not even entertaining watching that show. Yeah, I've heard so honestly that's like, I'm at an age now where I'm like this franchise is now, like finished for me, I'm not playing any new games of this I'm not going to what to me.

882
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:54,560
I'm going to enjoy it what it was started now.

883
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:59,560
I mean, who's the main guy again.

884
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:01,560
Catacross.

885
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:05,560
How to create this guy's law is so cool.

886
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:07,560
Honestly, I want to put him.

887
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:14,560
I come on.

888
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:20,560
And I have to come on the gash. What, what, like, briefly what's so cool about them, because I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.

889
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:38,560
I mean, the gash is super soldiers built for the composite souls of a whole bunch of people selectively curated to weed out the personality traits and the gash doesn't like, like, decent human being cowardice, stuff like that.

890
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:53,560
But he does like stuff like part of what is cultivated by the OC arc is a still like artisans poets stuff like that. They end up being like they actually do things in their off time like build society stuff like that.

891
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:56,560
All of course dedicated to the gash for such as his power.

892
01:15:56,560 --> 01:16:04,560
They are like they do have cool stuff they actually work with the living, the bone tithe. Once a year, you better give them X amount of bones.

893
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:10,560
These are just repertorians, or they're going to take them. Hey, Eli. This is Traitorian Lord.

894
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:16,560
Let's have a

895
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:35,560
category. If I remember correctly, he, he was just a regular mortal who there was other parts of different underworlds that lived in the realm of death, and then he basically encountered the gash and went on the way to start conquering other under afterlives like,

896
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:51,560
he's like, other afterlives next to each other. He went around his societies after life ended up being like bureaucratic hell, except this was their heaven. And then he looked to the right and saw like, you know, heaven was like what, why am I here, why can't I be over there.

897
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:54,560
And then he started just marauding.

898
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:57,560
Heaven sucks I want out.

899
01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:06,560
And then they're designed to cause well also, how many, how many factions have a have conquered part of chaos, or just them.

900
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:08,560
That's crazy. Just them.

901
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:11,560
Oh, can't conquer death.

902
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:14,560
Oh, yes. Lizardman. This is a way.

903
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:18,560
Can we just put like the normal lizardman next to them.

904
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:22,560
Yeah, they kind of have the same thing.

905
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:32,560
They have some cool stuff but like the slan now is actually being awakened. Lord croak alone has to bring him up to like the top of B tier.

906
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:36,560
He stopped time, not because he stopped time. Lord croak man.

907
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:43,560
He didn't stop time because he stopped time he stopped time because reality was buffering like a YouTube video that hadn't caught up yet.

908
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:44,560
Where's the other lizardman.

909
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:46,560
He's an awesome right hand corn Andy.

910
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:47,560
Oh yeah.

911
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:52,560
We might as well put them there then.

912
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:54,560
Oh, yes.

913
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:57,560
Yes. Both skavens.

914
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:02,560
I think we didn't need to skavens because the skaven, even more so than the lizardman are just the skaven.

915
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:04,560
Yeah.

916
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:07,560
I mean we just got the other skaven one as well.

917
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:14,560
I don't think we need to justify it but I mean thank all is a ridiculously funny character.

918
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:24,560
We can chatter in our in war crimes chat. The skaven are either the most horrifying thing in the book or the funniest thing in the book and it's great either way.

919
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:28,560
It's one of the best things that's part of Warhammer honestly.

920
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:37,560
It's one like a lot of people that it keeps them invested in age of sigma slash fantasy stuff is literally just a skaven exists.

921
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:44,560
Well actually hilarious characters wacky just dynamite in a book form. I have a question.

922
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:51,560
Is it fair to say that the difference between skaven and AOS skaven is nothing because don't fix it if it's not broken.

923
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:56,560
They are the same. They are the same. They literally didn't die. They are ported over.

924
01:18:56,560 --> 01:19:08,560
The differences in Warhammer fantasy we had to clan mores in or like clan Ashen clan spryer in AOS we have the clans of spryer the clans of Ashen.

925
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:14,560
There was millions of clan mores now there's millions of clans mores.

926
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:16,560
Oh, okay.

927
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:18,560
Fair enough.

928
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:21,560
Who's this. Oh, this is Archeon isn't it.

929
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:23,560
I think that's a slaves to darkness.

930
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:28,560
He's got a big pointy helmet.

931
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:33,560
Well, it's undivided essentially but AOS.

932
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:36,560
That one generally feels like quite generic and the other one.

933
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:43,560
Archeon won Warhammer.

934
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:48,560
Just looking at this can I just do a quick meme you know HR wants you to find the difference between the same picture.

935
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:53,560
Come on. It's the same thing.

936
01:19:53,560 --> 01:20:01,560
Is this beasts of Bayamoth or sons of Bayamoth. They're big giants. That's crazy.

937
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:05,560
I mean it's not the craziest law but it is enjoyable.

938
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:08,560
Yeah, that's fine. I have no reference.

939
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:14,560
Even like in their lore like they're described as like when a hurricane shows up.

940
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:18,560
It's like it's not terribly narratively important but you have to deal with that.

941
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:21,560
Do they beat chaos knights and lore.

942
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:25,560
Sometimes like oh like chaos knights like chaos.

943
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:27,560
Yeah, the.

944
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:33,560
Yeah, I'm glad they're there but even I gotta admit.

945
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:37,560
Flesh is not flesh. These are all black grave.

946
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:41,560
I hate Manfred.

947
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:44,560
Yeah, I was one of the people I hate him.

948
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:46,560
Yeah, yeah.

949
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:49,560
I am.

950
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:54,560
I, they're there. Yeah, bottom bottom will be. They're cool. I'm collecting them.

951
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:58,560
Their models are sick but we're not ranking that so.

952
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:02,560
Yeah, I'm just gonna shut up for the next part because I.

953
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:15,560
This is a palette for you surely.

954
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:24,560
Essentially the largest library of law maybe the entire world. What are they, if not the greatest of them all.

955
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:35,560
Special parties, similar to what house of though just imagine just the space marine faction alone has more law than most franchises who have entire universes.

956
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:40,560
That's what we're talking about here. It's the bad ones but it's also the good ones as well.

957
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:50,560
And that's that's got blood angels blood angels be there in separate thing but I love kicking towel diplomats through their chest.

958
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:55,560
I've been in the house in years of plot armor, but it's all good.

959
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:59,560
But it's funny sometimes sometimes it's really funny.

960
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:04,560
Yeah, I mean, there are also moments of like, right.

961
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:08,560
I like the towel.

962
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:24,560
It's also in town really annoying. So you know the candidates.

963
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:39,560
Shout out to my, my, my way shout to my iron hands.

964
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:54,560
I'm fearless overpal.

965
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:57,560
I think it's time for you to say the line that just needs more time to cook.

966
01:22:57,560 --> 01:23:12,560
There's nothing else to say other than that really love stormcasts of turtles because they're what Games Workshop is trying to turn space marines into, but they don't have 20 years of proceeding lore where space marines are fighting for a decaying riding empire,

967
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:20,560
but we're trying to make them the superheroes guys know look they're good guys trust us stormcasts are just allowed to do that because they're new.

968
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:32,560
It's a shame because like so I must say you, there's a few glimpses of it in which the stormcasts, particularly like gotrex books or they there are some interesting things about them.

969
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:42,560
But as a general sense they really, they don't have the depth that lots of the space marine stories have even the ones in which they are trying to add depth to them.

970
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:56,560
I don't think they're bad early. It's just, I don't know I can't I can't get by, I don't feel like any care to what I know as someone who's seen like I watched the black talent TV show.

971
01:23:56,560 --> 01:24:01,560
I know a little bit about stormcast as someone who's like tried to get into them.

972
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:12,560
I can't because it's just the fact that they are immortal, and they respawn, and you're like yes they lose their memory problem like, I don't care. That's not big enough stakes for me to actually care about any battle they're in because they're just going to respawn,

973
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:23,560
I'm like, I don't. And even when they did a story about all the characters going through a bout of amnesia. It's not like, it's like oh I forgot this one battle who I used to be and I'm like I don't care because you're still here.

974
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:35,560
I was like, when a space marine dies, he died. Honestly, I like that though because one, I get what you're saying Andy but the side effect of that is that just means a space marine is never going to die or lose.

975
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:44,560
Yeah, if they do lose. It's like the most contrived Marneus Calgar Oh he lost to the sun every time. No he didn't.

976
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:54,560
He lost to the sun mutilated by Huron Black, Blackheart now he's like in like a, in like a vat on to go against another space marine.

977
01:24:54,560 --> 01:25:09,560
A naughty space marine. But again there are like there are the ultimate, the ultimate test is of anything in that list. If I had like what would I be more interesting, or what we're more interested in hearing a story about was it stormcast or carriage and

978
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:23,560
stormcast, or like, you know, night on or anything like that. And where like it puts me the list. I can't put it even in, like, at the end of C tier because I think even then I would like more willing to listen to a carriage and you

979
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:39,560
know, a Calgar Bear reader because he is so much fun. I saw I saw the animation about him and I really enjoyed that way just destroys an entire orc encampment by being cocky and just be like, I'll bet this lost.

980
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:54,560
Let me win sigma. It's not about the model range at all like only just like if I, it's just the law and there was never a model about it.

981
01:25:54,560 --> 01:26:09,560
So I think it's like, I think it's like the most like, like you have the most insight into this faction, genuinely where do you think we should put at least top of be genuinely, they like there is interesting stuff there over angel there.

982
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:24,560
It's incredibly cool. You get to see both returned old characters like good old Balthasar gelt discovering who he was, you get new characters like Hamilcar, their overall faction lore is something that at the time was pretty new for Warhammer which is just an

983
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:40,560
interesting thing. And I think that's the thing about the Dark Angel is that they have the power to go toe to toe with chaos, not the gods obviously but chaos like big chaos warriors and win, as opposed to space marines who go back.

984
01:26:40,560 --> 01:27:00,560
Between dark angels and Death Guard, so I can't in my heart heart say they're more interesting than dark angels. I can't say I'm so much more. I love like at least I got something something they got some, you know, and the fact that Felix is not currently if

985
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:13,560
Felix is in a storm car suit right now. I'm with you. Are you a stronger soldier. I'll follow you. Why do you have blouse sleeves.

986
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:21,560
I'm trying. I'll see you chat heard my beeping aggressive beeping when I went calling gets angry.

987
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:30,560
I'm coming back up I tried. I love what else I love what else I don't know any other sigma.

988
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:40,560
I L'Oreal, she sure is there is really laughing. I L'Oreal said some cool character development I don't know if she's above a stormcast if the silver I'm going to riot.

989
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:57,560
I mean was she did though it wasn't the life wave thing. Yeah, and then did the gashes. So people randomly get random different realms. No, that's just that's that's because the realm of the realms and towards the end, the edges are wacky.

990
01:27:57,560 --> 01:28:10,560
I mean, I'm going to L'Oreal double right next to the fire slayers because that's just above the fire slayer. Okay, it's not bad, but it's not good.

991
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:14,560
Good. How, how, how I love to.

992
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:30,560
Oh, you like your turn to fight a possible time. I mean, if we're being real. They probably should go around where the elder are because their old lore is so good, and their new lore is so bad.

993
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:34,560
I don't know what else to tell you what's your problem with the new law.

994
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:44,560
I mean, they're just a completely different faction. I mean, not completely different but they're so different there. Their entire look and range is different. No one cares about the alien conglomerate anymore.

995
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:54,560
We're just here for freaking storm surges and riptides and big and big max. They have not they have not been the covenant for a while.

996
01:28:54,560 --> 01:29:11,560
Whereas, yeah, I do like far side but a lot of people also don't like those books, because the old doors for like the ethereals were sketchy and very mysterious but they not every single frickin moment of a towel book was oh the ethereals are super

997
01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:16,560
evil and this empire is just as bad as the Imperium and no no any better.

998
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:25,560
They have a dark angels problem where they have one problem they they fix it on so much.

999
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:41,560
Because they did start as this great as this really cool edition 40k as this kind of like bright hopeful alien race that was bringing aliens together to fight together, and they were still dark because it was, they were the small fish and the, you know, yeah,

1000
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:53,560
you know, nothing there was nothing bigger than a broadside battle suit, and they were very alien looking. But as they evolved. Now they're kind of just the anime mech faction, and they have a dark side to them.

1001
01:29:53,560 --> 01:30:04,560
And they're really no, they're barely any better than the Imperium, they just look nicer and I've cleaner tanks like far side also.

1002
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:16,560
You go ahead. Sorry, I was just gonna say that like, they could have had the potential of like, we're increasing our technology so rapidly, we could on an even footing, like best the Imperium, but because we're so far behind we never will catch up and that could

1003
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:22,560
be their things like overwhelmingly winning battles but it doesn't matter because we're just going to get drowned in astral military and guardsman.

1004
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:36,560
That's kind of that thing. Okay, rarest peppy in the chat says they have their own God which is also a horrible point. I think I might need to go grab a soda to take care of that. I did.

1005
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:52,560
But as cool as far side is. He's also getting to a point where he's got like the Primark problem, where there could be a really cool tau character genuinely super well written interesting good to see, but someone said far side, and now no one cares because far side is here

1006
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:54,560
hog stealing the attention.

1007
01:30:54,560 --> 01:31:05,560
Yes, yeah, I love far side though I do love them. I do like them, but it's all yeah there's there are a lot of cool tau characters that just don't get talked about cases a student appears hide and he's in 10 pages and war of secrets and

1008
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:09,560
fire warrior is a really funny lore event.

1009
01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:21,560
Fire warriors, fire warriors, they were saying people are, and people are still having a go at me because there's two different cases, and the two different characters and be like, oh, why didn't you put the same video I don't say give them different names please.

1010
01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:36,560
My heart to do. I was wondering, the chat. We're going to write those two characters at some point because you license.

1011
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:48,560
Yeah, go get your get your actually says, don't you fall in the fall and unconscious to our cool, powerful put tell right by a la okay really, okay, no, but that an F to F to F to.

1012
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:56,560
I'm gonna put that in FTA while I go get soda as well. Talk about. No, I can't glaze dual podcast now.

1013
01:31:56,560 --> 01:32:01,560
I want to glaze for 1000 sons right now though, because I promise you.

1014
01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:19,560
I mean books. I mean, I'll glaze it to chat Ironman books, absolutely win. They're pretty good, although if you get past, if you get to put book four and five, you've gone too far, don't don't have to read them, because they literally the whole point of those two books basically say,

1015
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:23,560
yeah, the last two things that happened didn't happen, and we went back in time.

1016
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:25,560
I love that part.

1017
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:31,560
Looks and aesthetics is always cool delving with magic is interesting.

1018
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:36,560
Just as like that things in the stories when they show up they are interesting.

1019
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:48,560
What's one like adversaries and all the things that general look of like their designs pretty damn cool as well, interacting with Zinchi and stuff is not too heavy handed it's not literally like.

1020
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:57,560
You know, no cool showed up and he bless people directly these bit more cunning like stuff. I do hate the Magnus stuff. I'm on the light.

1021
01:32:57,560 --> 01:33:02,560
I'm Ryan Magnus I am one man says biggest haters I

1022
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:18,560
think we will come under Magnus. One one thing I would say is we've just talked about towel having a fast site problem 1000 sons have an arm and problem, we have another character that isn't our. I like, I like Cion, I like Cion in the Black

1023
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:24,560
Legion he's cool. He's in two Black Legion books we haven't got a third where is the third book.

1024
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:39,560
It's so tragic that I feel so bad like you're reading all their horrors heresy books you just like damn man like all the cool guys just get killed and like when they die some horrific death is so damn sad.

1025
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:56,560
I love when my opponent puts down a red land, put down a soul ring which gives them to. And then next turn he puts down a land and then from turn three onward Magnus cheapens all sorcery so there's 5 million sorceries getting played.

1026
01:33:56,560 --> 01:34:15,560
And then he goes on every time he attacks, and he flies so I can't block them, because I'm playing tyrannids, and it's red green blue 1000 sons, I think are just red blue, because someone saw the TTS joke and made that how the 1000 sons actually play.

1027
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:30,560
Turn soul into the soul. I got I did get first turn soul ring to scoop. I just actually maxed it nothing wrong. Appreciate that boys. Thank you for Eli's painting right now is crazy. You came last in the painting tier list bro Wow.

1028
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:45,560
I hate crime, I did not come last in the painting to this is that what you just said. I will say though, I guess, objectively 1000 sons law. I'm going to put it at the top of B, because I think that's fine.

1029
01:34:45,560 --> 01:35:00,560
It's really like, it's good, it's not great. But it's really good. And I think, a is like, there's something about each of those factions and a, there's a little thing which like that's like a really cool great thing.

1030
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:15,560
It's just a. Yeah, I like all the things. It was not my favorite meal. How does it, how do you justify airman losing to your brain.

1031
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:33,560
I would say what really grinds my gears about this faction, particularly with the foot with the law, whenever they go, I'm, I'm dipping into the third enumeration and the fifth enumeration, but I'm going into the use of this jargon I'm like, could you shut up and did anyone else just get the most intense deja vu.

1032
01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:48,560
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've got a. I have an interview with Graham and Neil coming out tomorrow shout quick plug there, but I actually asked him about, like, there's a question talking about.

1033
01:35:48,560 --> 01:36:03,560
He was wanting to turn. I said I asked him like, well, if they want to see it, they can go check out tomorrow but I was asking about how you turn the thousands of sons and what is essentially was like goofy space wizards into like a legion is mentioning how like they had to be incorporating

1034
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:22,560
their magic into essentially what was like for like proper military combat, and to show that they were essentially above the rest. I did get, I did get Graham McNeil to answer a question. When I said, all the legions one v one who would win, and you have to see what he said about that.

1035
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:36,560
But that was a pretty cool thing I also asked him if Magnus did nothing wrong, and he's, he's he settled in. Yeah, I, again I love I do like 1000 sounds a lot I do glaze, pretty hard for them.

1036
01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:44,560
Quantum Kabooloo. Yes, I do know review will have either exists, but he doesn't have any law anymore because he's, he's basically a white scar orphan.

1037
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:53,560
So cool. He's gone now.

1038
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:55,560
Hang on, I'll read it.

1039
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:59,560
Oh, maybe I don't want to read that.

1040
01:36:59,560 --> 01:37:01,560
Jesus, let's hear it. Let's hear it.

1041
01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:09,560
How straight good into the corpse of Helen Keller. Oh my gosh man, she says, Christ. Oh my gosh.

1042
01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:14,560
I'm moving swiftly on.

1043
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:17,560
I don't know who that is.

1044
01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:27,560
Like, bottom of B, because their Lord, they will never have a character, they'll never have like, step, yeah, low elder, but at the same time like tear did show up it's it's fun.

1045
01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:29,560
Yeah, they have cool.

1046
01:37:29,560 --> 01:37:37,560
So I'm Lord is really cool. I always got a little bit. They're cool. They're not called one I am maybe top of see.

1047
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:40,560
I'm fine.

1048
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:49,560
They lose every major conflicts they win because a lot convenience. So yeah, that's great. Unless the community gets to vote on it and then they win.

1049
01:37:49,560 --> 01:38:02,560
When they had like, what was it, the Leviathan planet. Yeah, I don't know what it was called. Who cares. Yeah, but this is not a Craig or something. Yeah, it's oh no the Imperium lost a world.

1050
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:14,560
Thank you as I always love the oh no thank you was in chat from how broke because you say the most diabolical stop getting horrid things every week for nearly a year.

1051
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:16,760
don't have load eaters.

1052
01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:18,020
no, okay, they're not.

1053
01:38:18,020 --> 01:38:19,100
They have to have corn.

1054
01:38:19,100 --> 01:38:19,880
This is one of these two.

1055
01:38:19,880 --> 01:38:23,600
The horrors here is damn cool.

1056
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:24,640
My name is Con or something.

1057
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:28,660
How can you put the nails in your brain?

1058
01:38:28,660 --> 01:38:30,180
I want it to be like that.

1059
01:38:30,180 --> 01:38:31,280
Well, I'm sorry everyone.

1060
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:32,200
I love them.

1061
01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:33,180
Love both my dad.

1062
01:38:33,180 --> 01:38:34,220
I've got two.

1063
01:38:34,220 --> 01:38:38,180
But if either of them told me to put nails in my head, I wouldn't do it.

1064
01:38:38,180 --> 01:38:39,740
I'm ready.

1065
01:38:39,740 --> 01:38:42,060
I know.

1066
01:38:42,060 --> 01:38:47,420
Oh no, if we stop hitting each other and being so degenerate, we would stop making it look like that.

1067
01:38:47,420 --> 01:38:51,340
That would kill us. Some of it's brain, some of it's all the same. It's the angels in green.

1068
01:38:52,380 --> 01:38:56,700
There are fun characters there. I like the Fabius Bile lieutenant who's a world eater

1069
01:38:56,700 --> 01:39:01,820
apothecary. I like the world eater Firefist who's in the Black Legion who hates being called

1070
01:39:01,820 --> 01:39:05,340
Firefist because he used to carry around a plasma cannon. It blew up in his hands during the siege

1071
01:39:05,340 --> 01:39:09,580
of Tarot. He couldn't fight. He's like, don't call me Firefist. And it's like, yeah, they have fun

1072
01:39:09,580 --> 01:39:13,500
characters. They're not always just frothing at the mouth. They are fun. I'd like to give

1073
01:39:14,780 --> 01:39:19,820
two things. One, I like Scrawl from Bad. Scrawl is fun. Because he's funny. Yeah.

1074
01:39:21,500 --> 01:39:26,940
Because everyone else is doing plot stuff and he's just stuck on this panel. Their aesthetic is,

1075
01:39:26,940 --> 01:39:31,820
like that artwork there, their aesthetic is so damn cool as well. It's one of the most recognizable

1076
01:39:31,820 --> 01:39:37,660
parts about Warhammer. Yeah. And generally super sad and depressing, like a lot of their horrors,

1077
01:39:37,660 --> 01:39:43,180
heresy stuff is quite, they are in and they feature in some of the better books in the entire series.

1078
01:39:43,740 --> 01:39:49,900
You can't knock that. Their 40k stuff, not super strong compared to their 30k stuff. But

1079
01:39:50,540 --> 01:39:55,500
I just like the fact, I just love the fact that when you have world eaters or you're literally

1080
01:39:56,060 --> 01:40:00,460
talking about them, it's lit. Like it's a whole meme of like, literally just like anything you

1081
01:40:00,460 --> 01:40:05,260
have to say to me, Conor, I literally was yell at you and like attack you. I was about to say,

1082
01:40:05,260 --> 01:40:13,100
I would like to announce Total Collin Victory that I have got Hal, the Ember King, who I would say

1083
01:40:13,100 --> 01:40:22,780
has the most like elegant channel we all have, down to my baby mad of... I'm allowed to like it.

1084
01:40:24,380 --> 01:40:27,980
The guy, the Rothcary that works with Fabius, he's really cool too, the world eater.

1085
01:40:27,980 --> 01:40:33,420
Yeah, and Andrew Carr is cool. He's the Black Shield who's like, I'm leading a war band and

1086
01:40:33,420 --> 01:40:37,340
there's points in the book where some of his band are like, I'm going to defect and he just like goes

1087
01:40:40,220 --> 01:40:45,340
anyone else want to... No, fine. And he like, he holds them in line through violence. You're like,

1088
01:40:45,340 --> 01:40:50,220
anytime a world eater is involved, it's usually a fun extra little spice to the setting.

1089
01:40:51,900 --> 01:40:53,020
I think they deserve A tier.

1090
01:40:57,020 --> 01:41:00,700
They are really held back by their 40k lack of characters.

1091
01:41:00,700 --> 01:41:05,660
And it's all bad in 40k though. Still plenty good 40k.

1092
01:41:05,660 --> 01:41:06,060
Maybe...

1093
01:41:06,060 --> 01:41:10,940
It's so fun in 40k because everyone else is just like, oh, that's Karn, we're going to die.

1094
01:41:10,940 --> 01:41:15,020
They do hit the fun plot quite... Maybe bottom of A.

1095
01:41:15,020 --> 01:41:20,540
Yeah, like Kibanda's my shlong to say in the chat, everyone knows Blood for the Blood God.

1096
01:41:20,540 --> 01:41:20,780
Yeah.

1097
01:41:20,780 --> 01:41:22,140
Every freaking person.

1098
01:41:22,140 --> 01:41:24,380
And if that, like kill, main, burn.

1099
01:41:25,100 --> 01:41:28,620
Yeah. Like that goes hard. That goes freaking hard.

1100
01:41:28,620 --> 01:41:30,780
You'll hear armies chanting that one.

1101
01:41:30,780 --> 01:41:32,140
I want to let the galaxy burn.

1102
01:41:32,860 --> 01:41:39,500
And I love how like there's that story where a demon summons Karn to basically harass

1103
01:41:39,500 --> 01:41:43,660
Asriel in one of his like mini books. And then Asriel is like, oh God, it's Karn.

1104
01:41:43,660 --> 01:41:46,620
And then he escapes and then the demon's like, ah, well...

1105
01:41:47,180 --> 01:41:50,140
And he's like, I'm going to trap you with Karn in the ship as I escape. And he's like,

1106
01:41:51,420 --> 01:41:55,660
so I didn't like, I hope I didn't like cause you too much trouble Karn by summoning you to

1107
01:41:55,660 --> 01:42:00,140
this random ship in the middle of nowhere. He's like, crack snuckles. They are. I love like that.

1108
01:42:00,140 --> 01:42:04,220
He just like appears and he's just a menace anytime he's around. It's like, that's always fun.

1109
01:42:04,220 --> 01:42:08,700
He just, he's just like a wrench in the gears in any story he's in. And usually even the black

1110
01:42:08,700 --> 01:42:14,140
crusades is like, Karn's here. Oh God. All right. Get away from him. Let him do his own thing.

1111
01:42:14,140 --> 01:42:15,340
That's kind of a charm to that.

1112
01:42:16,460 --> 01:42:20,220
He's like, just an occupational hazard. You might have to deal with in a battlefield.

1113
01:42:20,220 --> 01:42:23,740
It's like, oh, Karn's here. We need to work around that area.

1114
01:42:23,740 --> 01:42:27,580
Yeah. He's a force of nature. You've got to avoid. You can't beat him to say, oh no.

1115
01:42:28,300 --> 01:42:31,260
DJ Beat has glop shit. Ho tier list. When? True.

1116
01:42:32,860 --> 01:42:33,980
That's a sorority.

1117
01:42:34,860 --> 01:42:35,500
I like him.

1118
01:42:36,300 --> 01:42:36,780
I do like him.

1119
01:42:38,540 --> 01:42:42,700
I honestly think they're in some ways like the ultimate embodiment of the

1120
01:42:42,700 --> 01:42:45,420
Imperium more so than the guard because it's just that pure

1121
01:42:46,060 --> 01:42:47,900
unrelenting faith in the God Emperor.

1122
01:42:48,780 --> 01:42:51,660
There's the, I'll make Colin read this book one day.

1123
01:42:51,660 --> 01:42:54,700
It's the Yarick is when Yarick is like young.

1124
01:42:56,060 --> 01:42:59,580
And there's a character called Seth and I, who then appears later in the

1125
01:43:00,620 --> 01:43:06,380
War of Armageddon book that Yarick features in and is a sister of battle who essentially she,

1126
01:43:06,380 --> 01:43:11,100
her order is destroyed. She has to wear like the dawn, like gray robes. So she's orderless,

1127
01:43:11,100 --> 01:43:14,700
but she's still a sister of battle. And it's one of the most like hardcore,

1128
01:43:14,700 --> 01:43:20,300
like crazy scenes I've ever seen in Warhammer in which they're trying to stall a gas,

1129
01:43:20,300 --> 01:43:24,460
a gas calls like massive hordes on Armageddon. And she essentially is like,

1130
01:43:25,100 --> 01:43:29,100
you know, they're in the middle of like a hive city, there's billions of people and they're

1131
01:43:29,100 --> 01:43:33,100
evacuating out all civilians. And they're like, we need to delay them in here. She's like,

1132
01:43:33,100 --> 01:43:38,140
I've got this. She runs to the prison and they have like this prison loader thing up.

1133
01:43:38,140 --> 01:43:42,620
And they just keep bringing up like, like literally, I don't know, like a conveyor

1134
01:43:42,620 --> 01:43:49,100
belt of prisoners. She just chants like, like full screaming. And like she did, she tells them

1135
01:43:49,100 --> 01:43:54,060
before, like, you can find redemption in the Emperor if you follow me. And she like full on

1136
01:43:54,060 --> 01:44:00,460
blaring five, I assume probably an entire day was yelling and sending in hordes, a conveyor belt of

1137
01:44:00,460 --> 01:44:06,940
like meat and prisoners against an oncoming or cord. And it was to the point where she inspired

1138
01:44:06,940 --> 01:44:15,180
such ridiculous, like zeal and fury that the fact the orc menace had actually like stopped briefly

1139
01:44:15,180 --> 01:44:21,580
for a moment, whilst the clog of meat and humans were equally fighting against the orcs because

1140
01:44:21,580 --> 01:44:26,460
they were so inspired by like a sister of battle. So we need to make a wall of man paste chuck them

1141
01:44:26,460 --> 01:44:34,220
into the meat grinder. It's a crazy part of the book is like a one weird side character guy,

1142
01:44:34,220 --> 01:44:40,220
he basically goes like, he literally his whole arc for like a few pages, like notice me, senpai,

1143
01:44:40,220 --> 01:44:45,900
because he's begging for her to like see him see him in his religious zeal as a massive orc mech

1144
01:44:45,900 --> 01:44:53,260
like clamps him in half and then he splits into is ridiculous. I love it. And every time Yarek sees

1145
01:44:53,260 --> 01:44:58,940
he's like he literally grows like every time she's around this, she could have an enormous battle.

1146
01:44:58,940 --> 01:45:03,580
That's the only time I've ever seen things like oh, no. But yeah, they have some crazy

1147
01:45:03,580 --> 01:45:08,460
characters. And things like the Book of Martyrs are fun, because like all three characters is

1148
01:45:08,460 --> 01:45:11,820
called the Book of Martyrs because they all die and just one of them bludgeons a tower of fear

1149
01:45:11,820 --> 01:45:16,220
over death with their bare hands when she's captured. Good fun. Just just the so zealous.

1150
01:45:16,220 --> 01:45:20,220
It's fun because that's their whole gimmick. But it's it's a good gimmick.

1151
01:45:20,220 --> 01:45:25,980
I will put them below dark L docs. I still have something about this is our top of S tier

1152
01:45:25,980 --> 01:45:31,980
sisters are top of S tier. No, no, no, no. They are the perfect warhammer 40k faction. They're

1153
01:45:31,980 --> 01:45:35,900
cooler than space marines. They're cooler than guard. They fit perfectly into the setting.

1154
01:45:35,900 --> 01:45:41,260
They're the picture perfect image of the entire Imperium of my I've got to I've got to be fair.

1155
01:45:41,260 --> 01:45:44,860
If we're going to put the ogres here just because they do what they do exceptionally well, surely

1156
01:45:44,860 --> 01:45:49,980
we've got to put them above the ogre. That's fair. You know, I'm just saying they are the perfect

1157
01:45:49,980 --> 01:45:55,740
warhammer faction. They're not bad in scavenging. I was going to say if we put the ogres for that

1158
01:45:55,740 --> 01:46:00,380
thing, they can go there for that thing. I think that makes sense. I need you guys to read that

1159
01:46:00,380 --> 01:46:07,580
Yarek books by the way. Yeah, I will. Amazing. I will break your precious states laws and release

1160
01:46:07,580 --> 01:46:16,860
a horde of rats into your house. jeans dealer cult. I love my beloved. I mean, Eli might be

1161
01:46:16,860 --> 01:46:22,540
the strongest soldier for this. I only don't think they often they are a bit too often used as like

1162
01:46:22,540 --> 01:46:28,700
the generic bad guys and a lot of other things. So they kind of lose their sparkle a lot of time.

1163
01:46:28,700 --> 01:46:33,740
Dude, they are interesting though. Like there's obviously like cool and tyrannids if you ask me,

1164
01:46:33,740 --> 01:46:39,260
the aspect of like them basically being a human infection in some way is quite fascinating.

1165
01:46:41,260 --> 01:46:46,140
The book they have which Eli, which one is it? It's Day of Ascension. Day of Ascension. Yeah,

1166
01:46:46,140 --> 01:46:51,980
they got some pretty good. They have they have not many solo books, but they once they do have are

1167
01:46:51,980 --> 01:47:00,380
good. I don't know if they gimmick is stronger than you know, being fair, I will say top of B

1168
01:47:00,380 --> 01:47:06,540
is more interesting than 1000 sons for a lot of people. I love one of the Warhammer TV bolt

1169
01:47:06,540 --> 01:47:11,900
hammer and bolter episodes where it's like this this planet is being besieged and they're evacuating

1170
01:47:11,900 --> 01:47:16,300
and there's this family trying to evacuate. And the whole thing is following them trying to escape.

1171
01:47:16,300 --> 01:47:19,820
And there's a bit at the end where the commissar is like, hey, and the military and there's this

1172
01:47:19,820 --> 01:47:23,500
military officer trying to help them on the last ship. And he's like, they don't have permits. We

1173
01:47:23,500 --> 01:47:27,420
haven't checked them. And you hate this commissar. And then at the end of the episode, it's like,

1174
01:47:27,420 --> 01:47:31,980
oh, they've escaped. And they've got the baby. And it turns out the babies are tyrannid.

1175
01:47:31,980 --> 01:47:36,860
And they've all got these head things. And it's like, oh, you tricked me.

1176
01:47:36,860 --> 01:47:40,540
Genes Sealer cults are one of like the prime examples of why the Imperium has to function

1177
01:47:40,540 --> 01:47:44,460
the way it does or it will die. And that the oppression is actually a good thing.

1178
01:47:45,740 --> 01:47:48,700
Well, the thing is, you go through the whole episode going, oh, that commissar was a dick.

1179
01:47:48,700 --> 01:47:53,100
Oh, I hate them. And then you like, oh, that guy sacrificed himself. And then they're on the shuttle.

1180
01:47:53,100 --> 01:47:56,540
And then you go, oh, no, actually, I'm with the commissar. Actually,

1181
01:47:57,260 --> 01:48:00,060
he was trying to do the right thing in a weird way.

1182
01:48:00,060 --> 01:48:06,700
And what they don't show you is the hundred examples where they just shot a random child needlessly

1183
01:48:07,500 --> 01:48:07,980
for fun.

1184
01:48:07,980 --> 01:48:08,940
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1185
01:48:08,940 --> 01:48:10,140
But that's what you do.

1186
01:48:14,300 --> 01:48:16,860
They do not need to do that. You are out of.

1187
01:48:16,860 --> 01:48:22,780
They do not know. Because listen, if one if the one time that it's that they miss the right one,

1188
01:48:22,780 --> 01:48:26,220
they trillions people are dead. One planet is gone. Trillions of people.

1189
01:48:26,220 --> 01:48:30,860
How many games workshop authors need to say the Imperium is needlessly cruel

1190
01:48:30,860 --> 01:48:33,260
before it someone finally gets it in their eye?

1191
01:48:34,140 --> 01:48:38,780
I do love the other animation with the salamander guy on it. And it's like, oh,

1192
01:48:38,780 --> 01:48:42,140
I've got to save this this bunch of survivors off this planet.

1193
01:48:42,140 --> 01:48:44,300
And they all run off and you don't see them for the rest of the episode.

1194
01:48:44,300 --> 01:48:48,940
And the last shot is this one little girl walking through the woods as the Asimilitar

1195
01:48:48,940 --> 01:48:52,140
are combing through it. And she's like, oh, and then she gets shot.

1196
01:48:52,140 --> 01:48:54,380
And you're like, well, how amazing.

1197
01:48:55,020 --> 01:48:59,180
No, I mean, they're good for what they do, but it is completely necessary.

1198
01:48:59,180 --> 01:49:01,500
She tells me just says that because they made them look too cool.

1199
01:49:01,500 --> 01:49:04,380
And now they have to go back on the things that they do.

1200
01:49:04,380 --> 01:49:08,220
It's very clear in the war that if the Imperium didn't do what they did,

1201
01:49:08,220 --> 01:49:11,260
chaos cults and gene cellar cults would just take over the entire

1202
01:49:11,260 --> 01:49:15,740
entirety of the year because the emperor didn't tell the primaries about so bad.

1203
01:49:15,740 --> 01:49:18,460
It's the emperor's fault. That's why those castles arise

1204
01:49:18,460 --> 01:49:21,900
because it sucks in the Imperium so bad that they go to hell.

1205
01:49:21,900 --> 01:49:25,420
Well, if the emperor told the primaries about chaos, none of this would have happened.

1206
01:49:26,300 --> 01:49:28,300
No, it would have just been a shit empire.

1207
01:49:28,300 --> 01:49:34,300
I think they're for the same way.

1208
01:49:34,300 --> 01:49:38,460
We have to we have to make sure we do the distinction ogres and ogres, isn't it?

1209
01:49:38,460 --> 01:49:41,420
I put the ogres behind the reigns.

1210
01:49:41,420 --> 01:49:43,260
Ogre kingdoms and fancy is better.

1211
01:49:44,620 --> 01:49:47,100
Next one is chaos.

1212
01:49:49,740 --> 01:49:54,300
This one is actually much more interesting than do you do you like

1213
01:49:54,300 --> 01:49:57,740
power armor and warhammer? You have them to thank for it.

1214
01:49:59,180 --> 01:50:00,460
They are like they're fancy.

1215
01:50:01,260 --> 01:50:07,180
The story of Archeon, they array of like many different like undivided characters.

1216
01:50:07,180 --> 01:50:12,540
They're much more like they're way like way more fleshed out compared to a lot of other things.

1217
01:50:13,420 --> 01:50:19,180
I generally like I enjoy chaos undivided a lot in fantasy more so compared to 40k.

1218
01:50:19,180 --> 01:50:21,900
So I would I'm happy with them being there.

1219
01:50:21,900 --> 01:50:26,700
I maybe I don't know if they're more enjoyable than ogre kingdoms, but as a gimmick.

1220
01:50:28,060 --> 01:50:29,500
I mean, Colin, whenever I see.

1221
01:50:30,780 --> 01:50:36,140
I just got to say whenever I see artwork like this, they just went into like a kinky S&M

1222
01:50:36,140 --> 01:50:38,220
shop and they're like, what do you want to say?

1223
01:50:38,220 --> 01:50:39,180
I want all of it.

1224
01:50:39,180 --> 01:50:40,060
Give me the shop.

1225
01:50:45,580 --> 01:50:49,980
They're just evil and they don't try and justify it and it's beautiful.

1226
01:50:50,780 --> 01:50:55,580
And then they expand into why they're evil because they live in a frozen hell hole right

1227
01:50:55,580 --> 01:50:56,780
next to actual hell.

1228
01:50:59,100 --> 01:51:01,420
What is great? Everyone should have hell.

1229
01:51:01,420 --> 01:51:06,460
I'd be evil, too, if I was born in Norsca.

1230
01:51:06,460 --> 01:51:08,460
Oh, Vermintide Lady.

1231
01:51:08,460 --> 01:51:10,460
Lambo.

1232
01:51:10,460 --> 01:51:14,460
What else?

1233
01:51:14,460 --> 01:51:15,500
Some held our slogan.

1234
01:51:15,500 --> 01:51:16,460
I'm not aware of.

1235
01:51:18,460 --> 01:51:20,460
There's something to them, but I don't know.

1236
01:51:20,460 --> 01:51:24,460
Again, like maybe put them above this.

1237
01:51:24,460 --> 01:51:26,460
Put them above the stormcast.

1238
01:51:26,460 --> 01:51:28,460
They are more interesting than the stormcast.

1239
01:51:28,460 --> 01:51:30,460
That's reasonable. I think every fantasy.

1240
01:51:30,460 --> 01:51:34,460
Yeah, I mean, like the words of Athel Loren is an interesting part of it.

1241
01:51:34,460 --> 01:51:40,460
Is there any Sigmar factions that are better than their fantasy counterparts, Colin?

1242
01:51:42,460 --> 01:51:46,460
Flesh Eaters Courts is better than the version of Ghouls in...

1243
01:51:46,460 --> 01:51:48,460
Yeah, yeah.

1244
01:51:48,460 --> 01:51:50,460
Ghouls aren't really a faction as much.

1245
01:51:50,460 --> 01:51:54,460
And if they're meant to be Bretonnia, then Colin would definitely say they're better than Bretonnia.

1246
01:51:54,460 --> 01:51:56,460
Yeah, absolutely.

1247
01:51:56,460 --> 01:51:58,460
Uh-huh.

1248
01:51:58,460 --> 01:52:00,460
Kind of not really, though.

1249
01:52:00,460 --> 01:52:02,460
Don't even think about that.

1250
01:52:02,460 --> 01:52:04,460
Bretonnia. I love Bretonnia.

1251
01:52:04,460 --> 01:52:06,460
F-tier. F-tier.

1252
01:52:06,460 --> 01:52:08,460
They are not F-tier.

1253
01:52:08,460 --> 01:52:10,460
You can't.

1254
01:52:10,460 --> 01:52:12,460
Let's look at the Empire of Man.

1255
01:52:12,460 --> 01:52:24,460
The dynamic, constantly changing civilization that is surely based off of the Holy Roman Empire, but actually quite a bit of legwork done into it.

1256
01:52:24,460 --> 01:52:30,460
Let's go to Bretonnia. Hey, you like King Arthur? All right, I'm with you. What else do you got for me? What do you mean, what else do I have for you?

1257
01:52:30,460 --> 01:52:33,460
You like King Arthur? Is that it? Yeah.

1258
01:52:33,460 --> 01:52:34,460
Yeah.

1259
01:52:34,460 --> 01:52:36,460
Are they cooler than the Mechanicus?

1260
01:52:36,460 --> 01:52:38,460
Like the power of fate lady they can achieve.

1261
01:52:38,460 --> 01:52:40,460
They are not cooler than the Mechanicus.

1262
01:52:40,460 --> 01:52:43,460
Okay, are they cooler than the Nightingale F-tier?

1263
01:52:43,460 --> 01:52:48,460
The fact that they are... I can't even see the F-tier right now is driving me insane.

1264
01:52:48,460 --> 01:52:52,460
They are the War of Fantasy faction. They are A-tier. Oh my God.

1265
01:52:52,460 --> 01:52:55,460
I'm pretty sure Colin likes them as much as Skaven anyway.

1266
01:52:55,460 --> 01:53:00,460
You will get the rat package.

1267
01:53:00,460 --> 01:53:15,460
In all fairness, I'd even say, I feel the same way about them. As strongly as I feel for Tyranids. I'm like, ah, cool, it showed up. But I would never, I wouldn't really buy a book about it. I wouldn't...

1268
01:53:15,460 --> 01:53:23,460
I should be fair, they do have more personality than a Tyranid. Come on. They aren't being unfair. Maybe the characters are cool. Unfortunately, I hate that personality.

1269
01:53:23,460 --> 01:53:25,460
They're just old characters.

1270
01:53:25,460 --> 01:53:29,460
Alright, it's commitment and stormcast, right? Yeah.

1271
01:53:29,460 --> 01:53:31,460
Colin, you have to admit it. You have to admit it.

1272
01:53:31,460 --> 01:53:33,460
I don't have to admit shit.

1273
01:53:33,460 --> 01:53:37,460
Alright, hold on. Colin, Colin, are they better than Dark Angels? Here's the litmus test.

1274
01:53:37,460 --> 01:53:39,460
No!

1275
01:53:39,460 --> 01:53:41,460
Oh. He wants the flint and empty.

1276
01:53:41,460 --> 01:53:43,460
I don't like that!

1277
01:53:43,460 --> 01:53:45,460
You're not an Aplorian boy.

1278
01:53:45,460 --> 01:53:53,460
Dude literally studied history, loves history, and then immediately hates the most medieval faction there is.

1279
01:53:53,460 --> 01:54:01,460
Yeah, because every other, like, everything else, when they base it off history, they at least do something with it. With the exception of Araby, which is just Sultan Jafar.

1280
01:54:01,460 --> 01:54:03,460
What do you mean? Empire is probably Roman Empire.

1281
01:54:03,460 --> 01:54:07,460
Yeah, but one, it actually is holy. Two, it's actually an empire.

1282
01:54:07,460 --> 01:54:09,460
It's Dean Tanks.

1283
01:54:09,460 --> 01:54:13,460
There's actually interesting stuff in it. Not just, hey guys, look, King Arthur.

1284
01:54:13,460 --> 01:54:21,460
They cannot be F-tier. F-tier is no more. F-tier is League of O-Tampereau. They cannot be F-tier.

1285
01:54:21,460 --> 01:54:23,460
He's getting baby mad.

1286
01:54:23,460 --> 01:54:27,460
I am getting baby mad. I've been perpetual baby mad for the last 20 minutes.

1287
01:54:27,460 --> 01:54:29,460
Alright, Beastman.

1288
01:54:29,460 --> 01:54:31,460
Beastman. I'd like, are you liking the Beastman?

1289
01:54:31,460 --> 01:54:33,460
Beastman taking a single W and the-

1290
01:54:33,460 --> 01:54:35,460
I love Beastman, but they're F-tier Beastman.

1291
01:54:35,460 --> 01:54:45,460
They got retconned out of a game twice. They got Old Worlded, just got destroyed, and then they got removed from Age of Sigmar.

1292
01:54:45,460 --> 01:54:57,460
Okay, you're gonna apologize when the Beastman show up and when Kazzrak One-Eye shows up and he's at Thanksgiving, you're gonna apologize, okay?

1293
01:54:57,460 --> 01:55:02,460
I'm not gonna apologize because I, me, would probably win in a book if Beastman were involved.

1294
01:55:02,460 --> 01:55:05,460
Top of D. Top of D. Top of D. Come on.

1295
01:55:05,460 --> 01:55:08,460
Yeah, I think D-tier is, they have characters instead.

1296
01:55:08,460 --> 01:55:10,460
They have them.

1297
01:55:10,460 --> 01:55:14,460
Kazzrak, Kazzrak, does Kazzrak even, oh, he doesn't beat Boris, does Boris kill him?

1298
01:55:14,460 --> 01:55:20,460
No, Boris kills him and then all the beastmen around Boris rip him apart because he walked into a Beastman camp to do that.

1299
01:55:20,460 --> 01:55:22,460
Oh, Chaos Dwarves.

1300
01:55:22,460 --> 01:55:24,460
Chaos Dwarves.

1301
01:55:24,460 --> 01:55:26,460
They're cool. They're funny.

1302
01:55:26,460 --> 01:55:28,460
I know the general lore and I like them.

1303
01:55:28,460 --> 01:55:32,460
They're there. They're Iron Warrior Dwarves.

1304
01:55:32,460 --> 01:55:34,460
Yeah, I guess.

1305
01:55:34,460 --> 01:55:37,460
I mean, top of D I could go with.

1306
01:55:37,460 --> 01:55:39,460
They're above tier in its.

1307
01:55:39,460 --> 01:55:42,460
Yeah, but I don't know if I could put them into B.

1308
01:55:42,460 --> 01:55:45,460
Their overarching lore is pretty damn cool.

1309
01:55:45,460 --> 01:55:48,460
As for Cetra.

1310
01:55:48,460 --> 01:55:52,460
Maybe that's lower than it should be, but I can't, I don't know if I want to put them in B.

1311
01:55:52,460 --> 01:55:56,460
We can't justify putting any higher, so well, well. Tomb King's pretty cool, right?

1312
01:55:56,460 --> 01:55:58,460
Oh, come on. Yes.

1313
01:55:58,460 --> 01:56:00,460
Yeah, I like Tomb Kings.

1314
01:56:00,460 --> 01:56:06,460
I put them above Sororitas, I don't know, just below Sororitas, above Warriors of Chaos.

1315
01:56:06,460 --> 01:56:08,460
Just below Skynet.

1316
01:56:08,460 --> 01:56:10,460
You can argue that.

1317
01:56:10,460 --> 01:56:13,460
I am Cetra's strongest soldier.

1318
01:56:13,460 --> 01:56:14,460
Really?

1319
01:56:14,460 --> 01:56:18,460
I know, but Cetra's like the one that carries it so strongly though. I don't know.

1320
01:56:18,460 --> 01:56:25,460
Here's a compromise. Should we put them next to Necrons? Because they're basically the same thing, just in different settings.

1321
01:56:25,460 --> 01:56:30,460
Yeah, but Necrons just have so much more lore because they are 40k.

1322
01:56:30,460 --> 01:56:32,460
True.

1323
01:56:32,460 --> 01:56:36,460
Maybe Cetra, as long as it's Cetra's silos, Emotec. I don't think Cetra.

1324
01:56:36,460 --> 01:56:37,460
That's crazy, bro.

1325
01:56:37,460 --> 01:56:39,460
Oh, dude, he's so right, he's so true.

1326
01:56:39,460 --> 01:56:40,460
That's crazy.

1327
01:56:40,460 --> 01:56:43,460
Trancel is finally cooking.

1328
01:56:43,460 --> 01:56:48,460
I think maybe he could fight a Tomb Guard.

1329
01:56:48,460 --> 01:56:50,460
Like that's his level.

1330
01:56:50,460 --> 01:56:55,460
Next one, Patsy Orks.

1331
01:56:55,460 --> 01:56:58,460
I love Grimgor, and I love you Grimgor.

1332
01:56:58,460 --> 01:57:02,460
I like Warzak, because he dances.

1333
01:57:02,460 --> 01:57:06,460
All their characters are actually really fun, and really have a lot of personality.

1334
01:57:06,460 --> 01:57:09,460
Skarsnik also is actually a pretty cool character.

1335
01:57:09,460 --> 01:57:11,460
I've done it again.

1336
01:57:11,460 --> 01:57:12,460
Really cool.

1337
01:57:12,460 --> 01:57:16,460
HL wants you to find the difference. Same picture.

1338
01:57:16,460 --> 01:57:18,460
They're slightly different.

1339
01:57:18,460 --> 01:57:21,460
Grimgor doesn't have a gun.

1340
01:57:21,460 --> 01:57:24,460
I put them by the 40k ones, but they have a few more interesting characters.

1341
01:57:24,460 --> 01:57:29,460
Shout out to Old Orc lore, where you could have half orcs.

1342
01:57:29,460 --> 01:57:35,460
Fantasy High Elves.

1343
01:57:35,460 --> 01:57:38,460
Honestly, all the fantasy factions are S tier.

1344
01:57:38,460 --> 01:57:40,460
I can't believe I'm an S tier, honestly.

1345
01:57:40,460 --> 01:57:42,460
I'm going to go with A tier.

1346
01:57:42,460 --> 01:57:44,460
I would go with A tier.

1347
01:57:44,460 --> 01:57:46,460
Haters. Freaking haters.

1348
01:57:46,460 --> 01:57:53,460
I like this tier list placement brought to you by the dwarfs.

1349
01:57:53,460 --> 01:57:57,460
I like Tyrion, I don't like Teclis.

1350
01:57:57,460 --> 01:58:01,460
Come August, we're going to have some choice fucking warlords.

1351
01:58:01,460 --> 01:58:04,460
What does that mean?

1352
01:58:04,460 --> 01:58:06,460
Teclis is a little bit like...

1353
01:58:06,460 --> 01:58:09,460
He pushed up his glass, and he's like, oh, I'm so interesting.

1354
01:58:09,460 --> 01:58:12,460
I don't think he's as interesting as other characters.

1355
01:58:12,460 --> 01:58:15,460
He's not just about the characters, though.

1356
01:58:15,460 --> 01:58:17,460
They have a lot more that is Teclis and Tyrion.

1357
01:58:17,460 --> 01:58:20,460
I'll throw in the Grimgor more interesting than Teclis to me.

1358
01:58:20,460 --> 01:58:23,460
Just because it reminds me. It's a bit more hardcore.

1359
01:58:23,460 --> 01:58:25,460
They've got witch hunters.

1360
01:58:25,460 --> 01:58:28,460
Who's the non-human faction with an inquisition?

1361
01:58:28,460 --> 01:58:35,460
I'll be honest, I'm looking for a Dwarfendal type elf in the High Elves.

1362
01:58:35,460 --> 01:58:37,460
That's what I'm more drawn towards.

1363
01:58:37,460 --> 01:58:40,460
I'm not the scholar type necessarily.

1364
01:58:40,460 --> 01:58:43,460
But this is one character. Why is one character keeping the mind of S tier?

1365
01:58:43,460 --> 01:58:46,460
Why is Teclis the one syncing it for you?

1366
01:58:46,460 --> 01:58:49,460
There are other parts of it which I don't...

1367
01:58:49,460 --> 01:58:53,460
If there's a Warlord family story, say there's no book,

1368
01:58:53,460 --> 01:58:58,460
I wouldn't be that gassed if they were like, we're going to set it on Ulthuan.

1369
01:58:58,460 --> 01:59:01,460
Or Paz, or dealing with High Elves stuff.

1370
01:59:01,460 --> 01:59:04,460
I want to see Skaven stuff. I want to see Orc stuff.

1371
01:59:04,460 --> 01:59:07,460
I want Warlord's The Empire of Man way more.

1372
01:59:07,460 --> 01:59:09,460
I'd actually be excited for that.

1373
01:59:09,460 --> 01:59:14,460
If it was set, if I had a range of things, it would come into place to some of the other things.

1374
01:59:14,460 --> 01:59:16,460
I'd want to see it in the fantasy.

1375
01:59:16,460 --> 01:59:19,460
Not that it's bad, it's just very much...

1376
01:59:19,460 --> 01:59:21,460
Other things are just way better.

1377
01:59:21,460 --> 01:59:23,460
So you're like, ah.

1378
01:59:23,460 --> 01:59:24,460
Way better?

1379
01:59:24,460 --> 01:59:26,460
Way better is a strong way to put it.

1380
01:59:26,460 --> 01:59:29,460
I think we should never have another Tearless.

1381
01:59:29,460 --> 01:59:32,460
Because I'm just going to fight with everyone.

1382
01:59:32,460 --> 01:59:34,460
That's all I've learned with today.

1383
01:59:34,460 --> 01:59:37,460
It does come with personal taste things.

1384
01:59:37,460 --> 01:59:40,460
Wait, wait, wait, wait.

1385
01:59:40,460 --> 01:59:43,460
This is for Andy. I don't fight with Andy.

1386
01:59:43,460 --> 01:59:47,460
Who do we want right now for the High Elves? Why is Hal with them?

1387
01:59:47,460 --> 01:59:50,460
Colin, don't worry. We're going to make it all better, right?

1388
01:59:50,460 --> 01:59:52,460
He's there, I see him.

1389
01:59:52,460 --> 01:59:54,460
Half friends.

1390
01:59:54,460 --> 01:59:56,460
Do not say that, Hal.

1391
01:59:56,460 --> 01:59:58,460
Get him up there. You are insane!

1392
01:59:58,460 --> 02:00:00,460
Where am I supposed to put him?

1393
02:00:00,460 --> 02:00:02,460
That wasn't directed at you.

1394
02:00:02,460 --> 02:00:04,460
Must be at the Space Marines.

1395
02:00:04,460 --> 02:00:07,460
You put the High Elves below the Ogres!

1396
02:00:07,460 --> 02:00:09,460
That's crazy!

1397
02:00:09,460 --> 02:00:11,460
You didn't tell me where to put it!

1398
02:00:11,460 --> 02:00:14,460
Colin and I are robbed in every Tearless, dude.

1399
02:00:14,460 --> 02:00:16,460
You didn't tell me!

1400
02:00:16,460 --> 02:00:20,460
I'll put them here. Is that better?

1401
02:00:20,460 --> 02:00:23,460
Should we put a poll for people like Ogre Kingdoms versus High Elves?

1402
02:00:23,460 --> 02:00:26,460
We're not putting that poll, because our chat hates Elves.

1403
02:00:26,460 --> 02:00:27,460
No, please!

1404
02:00:27,460 --> 02:00:30,460
I thought you were going to say, our chat hates us.

1405
02:00:30,460 --> 02:00:33,460
Also, it's arguing for Colin, so they're going to vote against Colin.

1406
02:00:33,460 --> 02:00:37,460
Andy, put the poll! I swear to Boingold, please put the poll!

1407
02:00:37,460 --> 02:00:41,460
You know what, Beelzebub won the last... Beelzebub won the versus, that's all I care about.

1408
02:00:41,460 --> 02:00:44,460
Alright, I have to open a new window.

1409
02:00:44,460 --> 02:00:48,460
So hold on, is Empire fine where it is, or do you want it higher?

1410
02:00:48,460 --> 02:00:50,460
It's in S tier.

1411
02:00:50,460 --> 02:00:52,460
It's in S tier.

1412
02:00:52,460 --> 02:00:54,460
The Empire has so much lore.

1413
02:00:54,460 --> 02:00:58,460
Let me just pop a survey.

1414
02:00:58,460 --> 02:01:00,460
The Empire is generally the most interesting part.

1415
02:01:00,460 --> 02:01:03,460
I think, for good reason.

1416
02:01:03,460 --> 02:01:07,460
Damn good stories. Godric and Phoenix is technically an Empire story in some way.

1417
02:01:07,460 --> 02:01:08,460
Yeah, maybe!

1418
02:01:08,460 --> 02:01:12,460
I mean, Godric and Phoenix is an old faction, I would carry that.

1419
02:01:12,460 --> 02:01:14,460
Where are we going?

1420
02:01:14,460 --> 02:01:18,460
I think they should be above Orcs. They should be above both the Orcs.

1421
02:01:18,460 --> 02:01:19,460
Orcs?

1422
02:01:19,460 --> 02:01:21,460
In my opinion.

1423
02:01:21,460 --> 02:01:24,460
He's going to do it again.

1424
02:01:24,460 --> 02:01:28,460
I was going to say, would you be willing to put it above Space Marines?

1425
02:01:28,460 --> 02:01:30,460
Me? Yes.

1426
02:01:30,460 --> 02:01:32,460
But Andy's...

1427
02:01:32,460 --> 02:01:33,460
Not me.

1428
02:01:33,460 --> 02:01:35,460
I don't know if I'll do that to Andy.

1429
02:01:35,460 --> 02:01:40,460
I'm just saying, I understand that they're cool, but like, this is literally the biggest...

1430
02:01:40,460 --> 02:01:46,460
This alone is more than most franchises ever get in their entire tenure.

1431
02:01:46,460 --> 02:01:50,460
I do feel good about the list though. I feel like everything is in a good spot.

1432
02:01:50,460 --> 02:01:52,460
Alright, how, what was the poll you wanted?

1433
02:01:52,460 --> 02:01:55,460
High L, versus OVT.

1434
02:01:55,460 --> 02:01:59,460
This poll is rigged. We're not going to win this poll.

1435
02:01:59,460 --> 02:02:01,460
High L versus OVT.

1436
02:02:01,460 --> 02:02:03,460
If I'm wrong, I'll just say I'm wrong about it.

1437
02:02:03,460 --> 02:02:05,460
Why are Ogres better than High Elves?

1438
02:02:05,460 --> 02:02:07,460
Because there's more hidden.

1439
02:02:07,460 --> 02:02:11,460
What? What do you mean? They're way more interesting!

1440
02:02:11,460 --> 02:02:14,460
They're lower in their fat and they eat food!

1441
02:02:14,460 --> 02:02:17,460
And they worship a hole in the ground!

1442
02:02:17,460 --> 02:02:18,460
Exactly!

1443
02:02:18,460 --> 02:02:23,460
It's split in the middle. It's split straight down the middle with 12 votes already.

1444
02:02:23,460 --> 02:02:25,460
Nothing but Ws!

1445
02:02:25,460 --> 02:02:29,460
They take the Ws because they've got like three lore events!

1446
02:02:29,460 --> 02:02:32,460
It's great, but it doesn't make them better! Oh my gosh!

1447
02:02:32,460 --> 02:02:33,460
Oh wow, it's so close.

1448
02:02:33,460 --> 02:02:37,460
I'm going to leave that. We're going to get back to the serious questions.

1449
02:02:37,460 --> 02:02:40,460
There's a few things about High Elves that is just generic and boring though.

1450
02:02:40,460 --> 02:02:45,460
Okay yeah, but then they have ten other things that are interesting and unique!

1451
02:02:45,460 --> 02:02:52,460
Even as a fan of Space Marines, Space Marines are kind of generic and boring at a certain point, but I feel like them.

1452
02:02:52,460 --> 02:02:54,460
Alright, let's take a second.

1453
02:02:54,460 --> 02:02:56,460
Take a breath.

1454
02:02:56,460 --> 02:02:58,460
I may be wrong about it.

1455
02:02:58,460 --> 02:03:00,460
I love the Imperial Man!

1456
02:03:00,460 --> 02:03:06,460
Let's all unite around our shared hatred of Manfred Von West.

1457
02:03:06,460 --> 02:03:08,460
I love vampires!

1458
02:03:08,460 --> 02:03:10,460
Manfred.

1459
02:03:10,460 --> 02:03:12,460
Manfred VAD.

1460
02:03:12,460 --> 02:03:15,460
I love vampires.

1461
02:03:15,460 --> 02:03:19,460
They didn't miss with a single vampire character.

1462
02:03:19,460 --> 02:03:22,460
That includes me.

1463
02:03:22,460 --> 02:03:24,460
I don't want to put it at the bottom of...

1464
02:03:24,460 --> 02:03:30,460
Maybe just below Depth of Sorority, it's generally the one of the most interesting things about fantasy to me.

1465
02:03:30,460 --> 02:03:35,460
Not Manfred specifically, but I do generally...

1466
02:03:35,460 --> 02:03:39,460
One of the first things I was learning about Warhammer lore was...

1467
02:03:39,460 --> 02:03:44,460
I was listening to very early lore videos about it and vampire accounts.

1468
02:03:44,460 --> 02:03:51,460
Before Total War of Warhammer came out, I was listening to vampire accounts and I was like, damn this stuff is so cool!

1469
02:03:51,460 --> 02:04:00,460
Because when that trailer dropped for Total War of Warhammer 1, and Manfred, who I didn't know was Manfred at the time, he dropped down on the zombie dragon.

1470
02:04:00,460 --> 02:04:04,460
I was like, oh man, they got vampires in World of Fantasy!

1471
02:04:04,460 --> 02:04:06,460
Yeah, vampire dragons!

1472
02:04:06,460 --> 02:04:10,460
I just... Vampire of War, Vlad, all that good stuff.

1473
02:04:10,460 --> 02:04:14,460
Oh, the true phoenix king.

1474
02:04:14,460 --> 02:04:18,460
My ass or nationalism is acting up.

1475
02:04:18,460 --> 02:04:25,460
We have the birth certificates, he's the true phoenix king.

1476
02:04:25,460 --> 02:04:31,460
Malekith is a really cool character and I like him a lot.

1477
02:04:31,460 --> 02:04:39,460
I do, however, also think the Warhammer world would be infinitely better if someone kicked him in the ribs as a child.

1478
02:04:39,460 --> 02:04:44,460
They also have Malus Darkblade and Lokir Felheart and all the other gods.

1479
02:04:44,460 --> 02:04:49,460
Lokir Felheart is not on the same level as Malus Darkblade.

1480
02:04:49,460 --> 02:04:53,460
He's cool, he's a cool thing that they have. That's all I'm saying, he's not on the same level.

1481
02:04:53,460 --> 02:04:58,460
I guess the level of he's a cool thing by that metric, the ogres, let's bring him back up here.

1482
02:04:58,460 --> 02:05:02,460
Malus Darkblade alone has like three books, right?

1483
02:05:02,460 --> 02:05:10,460
I may be, as well as I'm slightly biased because I may be buying the ogre spearhead.

1484
02:05:10,460 --> 02:05:16,460
Olsby, Ogres, Double S tier.

1485
02:05:16,460 --> 02:05:20,460
I've got my eye on that for Christmas this time.

1486
02:05:20,460 --> 02:05:22,460
Dark Elves are less tradition.

1487
02:05:22,460 --> 02:05:26,460
I like them more than Skaven, but that's not going to apply, so that's okay.

1488
02:05:26,460 --> 02:05:30,460
Tip in Hal, I have no point of reference.

1489
02:05:30,460 --> 02:05:33,460
I mean, again, so much of it is cool.

1490
02:05:33,460 --> 02:05:36,460
Malus Darkblade, as we said earlier, is pretty damn cool.

1491
02:05:36,460 --> 02:05:40,460
Storybooks, general faction aesthetic is amazing.

1492
02:05:40,460 --> 02:05:43,460
They don't really have anything that sucks in the entire faction at all.

1493
02:05:43,460 --> 02:05:45,460
Everything is kind of a W.

1494
02:05:45,460 --> 02:05:48,460
I think maybe bottom of S-Tier is probably the perfect place to put it.

1495
02:05:48,460 --> 02:05:51,460
But Hal's suck, bro. Hal's are the worst, bro. I hate Hales.

1496
02:05:51,460 --> 02:05:54,460
I didn't say I hate Hales, I just said I didn't think it was S-Tier.

1497
02:05:54,460 --> 02:05:58,460
Send this man to the flame of Assyria and burn forever.

1498
02:05:58,460 --> 02:06:02,460
Honestly, I made the Ogre Kingdom a stronger soldier.

1499
02:06:02,460 --> 02:06:06,460
Sorry, Colin, where do you...

1500
02:06:06,460 --> 02:06:08,460
Because this is the last one, where do you think they should live?

1501
02:06:08,460 --> 02:06:12,460
I'm content with them somewhere in S-Tier.

1502
02:06:12,460 --> 02:06:15,460
I'd put them above Warriors of Chaos, because the characters

1503
02:06:15,460 --> 02:06:18,460
mostly definitely have a lot more going on there.

1504
02:06:18,460 --> 02:06:20,460
Did we have Norska on there?

1505
02:06:20,460 --> 02:06:23,460
Did they even put a Rune King in S-Tier?

1506
02:06:23,460 --> 02:06:24,460
We didn't have Norska, did we?

1507
02:06:24,460 --> 02:06:27,460
No, Norska's not in the actual army, though, I guess that's why.

1508
02:06:27,460 --> 02:06:31,460
In the Emperor's Children, oh my god.

1509
02:06:31,460 --> 02:06:34,460
Which, by the way, the Emperor's Children shoulder pads reveal

1510
02:06:34,460 --> 02:06:38,460
is not looking good. But, you know, it's okay.

1511
02:06:38,460 --> 02:06:39,460
I think it's alright.

1512
02:06:39,460 --> 02:06:42,460
They look like they were taken straight off of my mini factory, bro.

1513
02:06:42,460 --> 02:06:46,460
I could find that STL on the internet for free.

1514
02:06:46,460 --> 02:06:47,460
Oh my.

1515
02:06:47,460 --> 02:06:50,460
Alright, doesn't matter.

1516
02:06:50,460 --> 02:06:52,460
Remember when we thought we weren't going to have enough time

1517
02:06:52,460 --> 02:06:55,460
for a full thing with just this?

1518
02:06:55,460 --> 02:06:57,460
Yeah, we have enough material.

1519
02:06:57,460 --> 02:06:58,460
We're not going to have time for that.

1520
02:06:58,460 --> 02:07:00,460
We should read through the donations.

1521
02:07:00,460 --> 02:07:02,460
Yeah, I was going to say, we'll go through the donations,

1522
02:07:02,460 --> 02:07:08,460
and then we'll see what the poll was in the end.

1523
02:07:08,460 --> 02:07:10,460
So let me just put that back.

1524
02:07:10,460 --> 02:07:12,460
I imagine the corn stuff is pretty down-coding.

1525
02:07:12,460 --> 02:07:14,460
They did well with the corn release,

1526
02:07:14,460 --> 02:07:16,460
World Eaters release as well.

1527
02:07:16,460 --> 02:07:21,460
My purple, I can't really see it, but my purple was...

1528
02:07:21,460 --> 02:07:24,460
Purple corn.

1529
02:07:24,460 --> 02:07:25,460
Very nice.

1530
02:07:25,460 --> 02:07:28,460
So we've got a few donations to cap off the show.

1531
02:07:28,460 --> 02:07:30,460
So starting off, we've got Tom Warren for two bucks.

1532
02:07:30,460 --> 02:07:34,460
You're all going in the space book.

1533
02:07:34,460 --> 02:07:38,460
We've already filled volumes of the space books.

1534
02:07:38,460 --> 02:07:42,460
Space books are horrendous.

1535
02:07:42,460 --> 02:07:45,460
Jo gave us two.

1536
02:07:45,460 --> 02:07:48,460
The first one was, I was there when Horace said,

1537
02:07:48,460 --> 02:07:52,460
I like voicemail, and the Emperor shat himself.

1538
02:07:52,460 --> 02:07:54,460
I was there when Horace said,

1539
02:07:54,460 --> 02:07:57,460
Hal, looking like human Mr. Rats, did the gritty.

1540
02:07:57,460 --> 02:08:01,460
Horace speak here.

1541
02:08:01,460 --> 02:08:03,460
You guys want to read a few of them?

1542
02:08:03,460 --> 02:08:04,460
Sure.

1543
02:08:04,460 --> 02:08:06,460
Donkeyman USA.

1544
02:08:06,460 --> 02:08:09,460
Speaking of rats, I finished my Queek slash World Leader kit.

1545
02:08:09,460 --> 02:08:12,460
Huge, absolutely huge.

1546
02:08:12,460 --> 02:08:14,460
John Hudson with the five.

1547
02:08:14,460 --> 02:08:17,460
I want to replace the TauCast with the Skaven or Magnum Exilius.

1548
02:08:17,460 --> 02:08:18,460
So true.

1549
02:08:18,460 --> 02:08:23,460
I have a nice quad.

1550
02:08:23,460 --> 02:08:25,460
Not going to happen.

1551
02:08:25,460 --> 02:08:27,460
Beastmen aren't really Skaven.

1552
02:08:27,460 --> 02:08:29,460
They're the weird thing.

1553
02:08:29,460 --> 02:08:31,460
They used to be though.

1554
02:08:31,460 --> 02:08:35,460
This is Mr. Fantasy fan here.

1555
02:08:35,460 --> 02:08:38,460
Beastman from Sweden, 100SK.

1556
02:08:38,460 --> 02:08:40,460
Can't wait for future Stormcast book.

1557
02:08:40,460 --> 02:08:44,460
We're at the inevitable last stand after a touching scene about brotherhood and battle.

1558
02:08:44,460 --> 02:08:48,460
The next thing they hear is lightning screaming, I am supreme.

1559
02:08:48,460 --> 02:08:50,460
Gelt is here.

1560
02:08:50,460 --> 02:08:51,460
Everything is Gelt.

1561
02:08:51,460 --> 02:08:53,460
You can never escape Gelt.

1562
02:08:53,460 --> 02:08:54,460
I love Gelt.

1563
02:08:54,460 --> 02:08:55,460
You know what?

1564
02:08:55,460 --> 02:09:02,460
If I hear randomly the Stormcast thing where it's like, is to go even further beyond.

1565
02:09:02,460 --> 02:09:06,460
Super Saiyan Stormcast, Sigma Rite.

1566
02:09:06,460 --> 02:09:14,460
This mighty shlong of sickness is still the best I've ever heard.

1567
02:09:14,460 --> 02:09:16,460
People who know nothing about Warhammer know blood for the blood.

1568
02:09:16,460 --> 02:09:18,460
That's very true.

1569
02:09:18,460 --> 02:09:20,460
Document USA for five bucks.

1570
02:09:20,460 --> 02:09:24,460
Need a law crime supercar of everything heinous Hal has ever said.

1571
02:09:24,460 --> 02:09:28,460
You were there to witness it.

1572
02:09:28,460 --> 02:09:33,460
John Apocalypse for two pounds says AOS ogres are better because of the winter curse.

1573
02:09:33,460 --> 02:09:36,460
They're better because of the massive hurricane winter.

1574
02:09:36,460 --> 02:09:38,460
But they don't have the big hole in the ground.

1575
02:09:38,460 --> 02:09:40,460
Yeah, it's not the same.

1576
02:09:40,460 --> 02:09:42,460
I like the great models.

1577
02:09:42,460 --> 02:09:44,460
Their models are so familiar.

1578
02:09:44,460 --> 02:09:47,460
Mr. Mealove again for the 2BGN.

1579
02:09:47,460 --> 02:09:52,460
Mr. Hand is butt hurt about Bretonnia.

1580
02:09:52,460 --> 02:09:58,460
You know, some of you in the chat, H. Mealove, thank you.

1581
02:09:58,460 --> 02:10:03,460
I'm going to call your family and say the words you say in our chat to them.

1582
02:10:03,460 --> 02:10:05,460
Just tell me the reaction.

1583
02:10:05,460 --> 02:10:09,460
Your employer perhaps.

1584
02:10:09,460 --> 02:10:12,460
Your college professor.

1585
02:10:12,460 --> 02:10:15,460
Just say these words.

1586
02:10:15,460 --> 02:10:17,460
See what happens.

1587
02:10:17,460 --> 02:10:19,460
I guess I got it.

1588
02:10:19,460 --> 02:10:21,460
Sorry.

1589
02:10:21,460 --> 02:10:23,460
I was going to say Tom Moran donated usi.

1590
02:10:23,460 --> 02:10:28,460
Why would you ever say that?

1591
02:10:28,460 --> 02:10:34,460
You put it on the thumbnail.

1592
02:10:34,460 --> 02:10:38,460
Because I knew people would click on it.

1593
02:10:38,460 --> 02:10:41,460
Anyway, Tom Moran donated two bucks.

1594
02:10:41,460 --> 02:10:44,460
The Empire is the only faction with the Warhammer.

1595
02:10:44,460 --> 02:10:46,460
That's true.

1596
02:10:46,460 --> 02:10:49,460
They have the IP.

1597
02:10:49,460 --> 02:10:50,460
New Zealand?

1598
02:10:50,460 --> 02:10:53,460
That's crazy.

1599
02:10:53,460 --> 02:10:55,460
Five New Zealand Bugs.

1600
02:10:55,460 --> 02:11:02,460
I keep forgetting I'm watching this live because I'm used to not being able to talk about your terrible opinion.

1601
02:11:02,460 --> 02:11:05,460
Warhammer is different for everyone though.

1602
02:11:05,460 --> 02:11:07,460
We all feel differently.

1603
02:11:07,460 --> 02:11:08,460
Angry Monk has two pounds.

1604
02:11:08,460 --> 02:11:11,460
Can you guys add Trench Crusade factions?

1605
02:11:11,460 --> 02:11:14,460
I mean, it's common to them.

1606
02:11:14,460 --> 02:11:20,460
I've heard good things about it.

1607
02:11:20,460 --> 02:11:23,460
Maybe one day when we get further in, we may have Trench Crusade channels.

1608
02:11:23,460 --> 02:11:26,460
Who knows?

1609
02:11:26,460 --> 02:11:32,460
I'm still a bit miffed that Napoleon Dynamite interviewed or is doing a documentary about Trench Crusade.

1610
02:11:32,460 --> 02:11:39,460
There's a photo of him on Twitter the last week or so.

1611
02:11:39,460 --> 02:11:41,460
He's stood next to him.

1612
02:11:41,460 --> 02:11:44,460
He's like, yeah, I'm doing a miniature Wargaming documentary.

1613
02:11:44,460 --> 02:11:46,460
Here's the Trench Crusade guy.

1614
02:11:46,460 --> 02:11:48,460
Vote for Pedro Cantor.

1615
02:11:48,460 --> 02:11:50,460
Amazing.

1616
02:11:50,460 --> 02:11:54,460
The results are in from the poll.

1617
02:11:54,460 --> 02:11:57,460
52% elves.

1618
02:11:57,460 --> 02:11:58,460
God bless you.

1619
02:11:58,460 --> 02:11:59,460
God bless you all.

1620
02:11:59,460 --> 02:12:01,460
So close.

1621
02:12:01,460 --> 02:12:03,460
That's closer than for Comfort, isn't it?

1622
02:12:03,460 --> 02:12:05,460
That's crazy.

1623
02:12:05,460 --> 02:12:07,460
41% banned.

1624
02:12:07,460 --> 02:12:11,460
58% not 52%.

1625
02:12:11,460 --> 02:12:15,460
I would say some people probably vote for Ogre's just to spite the beauty.

1626
02:12:15,460 --> 02:12:17,460
That's what I thought all the vote would be.

1627
02:12:17,460 --> 02:12:22,460
The thing was, as soon as I pressed it, about a second later, it was like 15 votes and it was neck and neck, 50-50.

1628
02:12:22,460 --> 02:12:24,460
I was like, wow, this is good.

1629
02:12:24,460 --> 02:12:26,460
This is a big day.

1630
02:12:26,460 --> 02:12:28,460
Crazy.

1631
02:12:28,460 --> 02:12:31,460
But yeah, I will say we won't have time for the second tier list.

1632
02:12:31,460 --> 02:12:38,460
We were going to talk about zombie games and ranking them, but I will just say there's like 60 options here.

1633
02:12:38,460 --> 02:12:40,460
So we're definitely going to run.

1634
02:12:40,460 --> 02:12:42,460
But another time maybe.

1635
02:12:42,460 --> 02:12:43,460
Yeah.

1636
02:12:43,460 --> 02:12:46,460
Thank you, everyone who donated as well, particularly.

1637
02:12:46,460 --> 02:12:47,460
Thanks so much.

1638
02:12:47,460 --> 02:12:52,460
Again, if everyone wants to grab merchandise for Christmas, go ahead.

1639
02:12:52,460 --> 02:12:57,460
We've got plenty of things to really repel all of the people in your life.

1640
02:12:57,460 --> 02:12:59,460
I appreciate it.

1641
02:12:59,460 --> 02:13:02,460
Again, thank you so much for listening, for watching.

1642
02:13:02,460 --> 02:13:04,460
If you made it this far, obviously, please like.

1643
02:13:04,460 --> 02:13:06,460
We are off some of this online stuff as well.

1644
02:13:06,460 --> 02:13:07,460
Spotify.

1645
02:13:07,460 --> 02:13:08,460
I'm pretty sure I was saying that too.

1646
02:13:08,460 --> 02:13:09,460
I think we did this to Warpst.

1647
02:13:09,460 --> 02:13:10,460
Oops.

1648
02:13:10,460 --> 02:13:11,460
Sorry, I interrupted out.

1649
02:13:11,460 --> 02:13:18,460
I think every Warhammer faction is cool and it's okay to like whatever Warhammer faction you like.

1650
02:13:18,460 --> 02:13:20,460
Even leagues of Otana, maybe.

1651
02:13:20,460 --> 02:13:22,460
I would like to double down on that statement.

1652
02:13:22,460 --> 02:13:27,460
However, I will add, I will still make fun of you if you pick a faction I don't like.

1653
02:13:27,460 --> 02:13:29,460
I respect your right to choose.

1654
02:13:29,460 --> 02:13:36,460
We need a versus episode where we bring in Arthur Bones to defend leagues of Otana versus anything else.

1655
02:13:36,460 --> 02:13:37,460
4v1.

1656
02:13:37,460 --> 02:13:42,460
I could do leagues of Otana versus agents of the Imperium and I'll just...

1657
02:13:42,460 --> 02:13:43,460
I was defending them a bit.

1658
02:13:43,460 --> 02:13:47,460
They're the only faction that I just don't really care about, though.

1659
02:13:47,460 --> 02:13:50,460
I like every other faction a lot.

1660
02:13:50,460 --> 02:13:52,460
Maybe them and Custodes.

1661
02:13:52,460 --> 02:13:53,460
Everything else.

1662
02:13:53,460 --> 02:13:57,460
I have a lot of hateful things to say about that.

1663
02:13:57,460 --> 02:13:59,460
Did we miss Space Rules?

1664
02:13:59,460 --> 02:14:00,460
Maybe there's a few we missed.

1665
02:14:00,460 --> 02:14:02,460
But we can't anymore.

1666
02:14:02,460 --> 02:14:05,460
But thank you everyone for making it this far in.

1667
02:14:05,460 --> 02:14:07,460
Obviously, like, subscribe, all that good stuff.

1668
02:14:07,460 --> 02:14:08,460
We appreciate you all.

1669
02:14:08,460 --> 02:14:09,460
Love you all.

1670
02:14:09,460 --> 02:14:13,460
Thank you for the heinous comments as usual.

1671
02:14:13,460 --> 02:14:14,460
Appreciate it.

1672
02:14:14,460 --> 02:14:19,460
Down in the next stream to watch me get baby mad again.

1673
02:14:19,460 --> 02:14:23,460
It's my only source of winning an argument.

1674
02:14:23,460 --> 02:14:25,460
It's funny though.

1675
02:14:25,460 --> 02:14:28,460
Thank you for helping us trigger Colin a little bit.

1676
02:14:28,460 --> 02:14:32,460
Pulling him on the high elves, particularly as well.

1677
02:14:32,460 --> 02:14:36,460
His bias knows no bounds.

1678
02:14:36,460 --> 02:14:41,460
We'll see you all very soon though with some more lore, more good stuff, and we'll catch you on the next one.

1679
02:14:41,460 --> 02:14:42,460
Peace.

1680
02:14:42,460 --> 02:14:43,460
Bye everyone.

1681
02:14:43,460 --> 02:14:44,460
Bye bye.

1682
02:14:44,460 --> 02:14:49,460
See you next time.

1683
02:15:14,460 --> 02:15:19,460
Bye.