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Hello ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. Welcome to Fantasy Fireside with me, Andy,

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and Colin, where we discuss bits of Warhammer fantasy lore. Colin, what are we talking about

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today?

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Today, we're talking about the big boys that love to eat, the ogres.

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Yum yum. So, I think it's worth pointing out that this is probably going to be a bit shorter

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than some of our previous episodes because I think it's fair to say they're fairly one

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dimensional as far as factions go.

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They're not the most narratively heavy of factions, ironically, but they're a good time.

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It's kind of like some of the orcs. The orcs in 40k definitely have some heavier hidden

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characters like a gaz skull, of course. The ogres have some characters with a decent

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middle ore, but they're still all about fighting and winning, and you can usually probably

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figure out what an orc character likes as a whole if you had to just guess randomly,

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don't know nothing about them. Similar to the ogres, just replace fighting with eating.

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Well, it's been one of the, I think it's actually been the most frequently requested episode

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topic we could do. But before we get started with that in mind with the orcs and the ogres,

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they're kind of similar on the surface. You say like one eats one fights. How do ogres

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from Warhammer fantasy differ from maybe some other typical ogres in other fantasy settings?

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Or are they more, if you know an ogre from one setting, you'll know what they're like

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here?

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Well, they're definitely not like Shrek. There are not many layers to these ogres.

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There are layers of fat and muscle, but personality wise, maybe not that deep. There is not going

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to be any epic rescuing the princess animated childhood movie here. They might just eat

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the princess by the time they're done with it.

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No heart of gold. It's just like, no heart flab, give me more food please. Yum yum.

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There is not really a heart of gold underneath them. They're not like D&D alignments. They're

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not pure chaotic evil. They've got some culture, they've got rules, they've got some

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stuff like that. They're not completely savage.

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That's a tasty looking human. I don't care if it's alive. Yum yum yum.

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There are worse neighbors in the Warhammer settings, but there's definitely better neighbors.

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If you'd like the TLDR, the most shortened version, just as a taste, if you will, of

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what's coming. Take the ogren. I don't mean to shock you, but ogren. I wonder where the

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inspiration for ogren came from.

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Hold on. Wait, what? You're telling me there's a connection? No way.

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It's crazy. You know how ogren are good boys. They just want to please the emperor.

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Yeah, they're quite naive and wholesome in a strange way, despite being eight foot tall.

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We'll make them about 30% wider, and they're not the emperor's nicest little boys.

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Yeah, take the character creation and you go width all the way to one end and then just

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like selfishness all the other way. What's the word? Decadence or even, what would the

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word? Gluttonous, like gluttony. Max that out, done.

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Although in the same way an ogren could probably rip apart a space marine if you convinced

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him to, ogres could probably do the same thing, except there's no space marines and more hammer

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fantasy to stop them. So pound for pound, they're a bit higher of a threat. So with

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that, we start with the history of the big boys.

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Now we talked about the old ones in fantasy a bit, how they were just creating races to

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try and get the ultimate weapon against chaos, right? They're trying to nail it. Towards

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the end, around after the time they made humanity, started getting a little bit desperate. So

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it went from slow, controlled, measured experimentation as they make everyone to throw whatever you

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got, throw everything in the kitchen sink at it.

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We don't have time to give them like creativity and artistry and blah, blah, blah. Just hungry,

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hungry, make that out the door, go, go, go mass produce.

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Well actually, funny enough, you say that the initial prototype of the ogren, ogre,

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I'm probably going to say ogren a couple of times on accident. The ogres was the halflings

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of all races. It was a very rough prototype. You know how for the Primaris, Kahl has that

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Frankenstein monster that is, I mean he's in constant pain, but ignoring that he's honestly

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a bit better than pretty much every way that a Primaris.

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Halflings were not that. They had two things going for them. They're about, they're as

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smart as people and they're pretty, actually pretty damn resistant to chaos. They could

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more or less juggle Warpstone if they wanted and probably come away from it fine. Whereas

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if you or me touched it, I hope you don't mind that your arm is now a tentacle.

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Because we haven't really talked about the halflings before on the fancy fireside. Could

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you give us like a very brief like, okay, what makes them unique in the setting compared

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to the other ones? Or is that a tall order?

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Funny choice of words. Aside from like the being highly resistant to chaos things, take

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halflings from like the hobbits from Lord of the Rings. But imagine they were designed

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by someone who is incredibly racist against hobbits.

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Oh no.

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There's I think the fourth edition Warhammer fantasy role play. Because actually in that

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game, halflings can be surprisingly deadly because they're pretty good with like ranged

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weaponry. So you get a nice crossbow or even just a sling and by God, halflings can do

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some damage.

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Smaller targets, but if you're going to return fire like aim for him.

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There was a passage like an elf talking about him because there's some stuff about how all

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the races view each other. The elf was like, well, they're very nice. But I kept misplacing

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my wallet, as it were. Oh, oh, no, they're the grubby little thieves. They're not they're

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not great. They're not. If someone was really just picking it against hobbits is how you

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get a halfling.

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But is it because all the people who are heightists keep pushing them down? They're like, fine,

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we'll get our own back. Or is it just they have just a proclivity to be like, well, we

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can see their pockets at eye level. Might as well see what's in them.

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I think it's a bit more of the second one. They're not super brave. There is I think

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there's like one halfling mercenary company. They ride in a battle on big chickens.

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Oh, that's very fabless. I like that.

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Which it is actually pretty, pretty funny. And I like it a lot. But they're they're

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they're very hungry. To the point that they were given a vote on who could become the

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emperor of the Empire of Man, because they gave the current emperor a really goddamn

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good feast. They invented pie and then had a civil war over pie.

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Oh, amazing. I love that.

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And in the county of in the province of Averland, it was only I think about 80 years prior to

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modern warhammer fantasy where they finally outlawed hunting halflings for sport.

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Oh, guys. Then the who was it then the last elector count of Averland? I don't think he

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quite got the memo that it was outlawed. Oh, no.

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They brought pies to warhammer fantasy. Why would you hunt them for sport? They've done

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so much already.

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I don't have an answer for you. Like I said, they were designed by someone who, like I

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said, must have just really hated hobbits.

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Again, I got nothing for that one. Just their designer must have just had a real grudge

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against Tolkien.

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Yeah, just I read Lord of the Rings once and I hated it. It's rubbish. Some Bombadil sucks.

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Just having a hissy fit.

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And yeah, so halfling hunting aside, always get a smile on my face whenever I read about

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that. That was one more slight aside.

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Any art of this? Just I imagine the idea of like a human holding one up by his leg upside

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down. It's like a machete in the other hand.

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There's not but without too much details about that, because I'm not 100% sure how the games

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are going to go. They might have wanted to make like a little thing out of it. Another

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Warhammer fella, you know, YouTube friend we've got. We were doing a Warhammer fantasy

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roleplay campaign. I was a halfling named Borbo Frebo, meatball shaped. Nice. And the

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first person I met, he looked at me and said, Colin, this man is from Haverland. And sure

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enough, that man did not like me for being halfling.

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But halflings aside, I did say they were a prototype. Sure enough, what was next for

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the old ones after the halflings was the ogres. The ogres were for the most part an upgrade

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on halflings in every way. The only downgrade was ogres are a bit dumber than the average

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person. They're not full blown orc. They it's like, I wouldn't even say they're halfway

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between like orc and human. They're not the smartest people around. Is there a similarity

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between them and ogrens? They're not like the naive children sort of thing, but they

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are just a bit like, where's the burgers? Probably a little bit smarter than an ogren.

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I think the average ogre could definitely count to 10. Once he runs out of fingers,

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we might have some problems. But a little bit smarter than an ogren. They're still,

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it's definitely easier to trick an ogren than it is or an ogre than it is a person. But

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they're just a little slow. Yeah, I want you to assault that castle. Why? It's like an

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entire roast chicken in there. Really? There's like five of them. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, pretty

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much. Of course, the flip side of that is if you're lying about the chicken in that

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castle, they're big enough that you are now the chicken because you lied to them. I ate

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all the guards, but I still want my chicken. Yeah. I do like the idea that they, in contrast

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to halflings, it's like, oh, halflings get bullied all the time. You're not bullying

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these guys. No. So a little bit dumber. And the other thing is the halflings have a massive

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appetite. They could probably eat like three times as much as you or me need to eat in

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the day. They're half as tall at halfling. The ogres are about twice as tall as us and

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three to four times as wide. Yeah, double the height, four times the gut. Amazing. Yeah.

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They eat a lot, a lot. But that being said, they're still resistant to chaos. They can

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choose to fall to chaos, but if they don't choose, probably not going to fall. They're

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just going to hit the guy. Can they eat chaos stuff and not get corrupted? Yes. They have

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tried to make demon soup before with some limited success. Amazing corn soup. I'd love

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that. Putting corn with the corn. Amazing. Yeah. They mostly hit the mark on the ogres.

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Again, they're a bulldozer in combat. If ever you go to an ogre's party, don't get the chaos

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surprise, whatever you do. No, they're resistant to chaos. So they can have the corn soup all

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day long. You will probably mutate on the spot. They're having a great meal. You have

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the soup and eyes start forming on your forehead. You're like, is there cinch in this? I'm allergic

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to cinch. Oh no, my doctor said to let my zeech in. Oh no, I'm feeling horny all the

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time. No. Yeah. For the ogres though, again, great stuff. Again, they're massive, so you

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can't threaten them. They're not like the elves and dwarves where it takes them five

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million years to have a single kid. So one loss in combat isn't the tragedy of a generation.

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In spite of being a little bit slower, they can use magic. So they're not so stupid that

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they can't. And they're ambitious, so they're willing to get out there. And they're not

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so set in their ways like the elves and the dwarves. They seem like the old ones and always

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nailed it. They just didn't have time to finish it. They wanted to curb the appetite just

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a bit. Big guy's still going to eat more, but let's tone it down. And the area they

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were gifted, which was right above China, the ogres are kind of fantasy Mongolia, wasn't

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quite finished. The environment wasn't quite ready to suit the ogres and be fully like

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permanently sustainable for them. So let me guess they ate everything and ran out of food

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and went, right, we're going to expand. Pretty much. And it was never finished because, you

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know, as we know, chaos comes into the world. Old ones piss off. Elves and lizard men's

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are taking care of the problem. Dwarf God marches right into hell. And yeah, now we

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have chaos, lovely. Ogres for their part at this point, give the old ones their credit.

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Their homeland did sustain them for a decent while. I don't believe exact dates were given

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for how long, but a good amount of time. Like the ogres will live there for at least a couple

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hundred years, bare minimum. Is there like a name for where they live? They have where

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they live now. It's called the mountains of Morn. I don't quite know what the equivalent

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of where they live is, is the problem. Just think of the great famine of Morn. It's just

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like, how long did it last? Oh, we had food for like a couple of years. Then we started

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like breeding. I'm pretty sure I can try to find a map of it because if I'm remembering

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correctly, I believe I can send you a picture. Because it's right above, it was where they

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were initially, it was like Warhammer fantasy's, the regional equivalent of Mongolia, which

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would have been north of Warhammer fantasy, China naturally. So that is the borders of

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the great bastion of Cathay, where beyond is where I presume the old homeland of the ogres

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was. Now it's all chaos-y. Yeah, it's not looking great. Not much greenery. But initially,

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yeah, initially it wasn't too chaos-y because again, the ogres were still there. And every

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time, you know, Khorne decided to try his luck, demons would find out that they can

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in fact be eaten. So that wasn't, for now they were good. But like I said, after a long

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enough time, the environment wasn't built to sustain them like it was for, you know,

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the elves and the dwarves. So they ran out of food as more and more ogres kept being

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born. They ate everything. First, they wander on down to Cathay because it's right there.

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And they learned more or less the height of the technological advancements they would

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reach, fire and the wheel. So they can cook their food now. That's good. They can pull

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it around in carts more effectively. That's good. I did have a question because you said

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they use magic. Is most of their magic just like heat pot quicker, cook food quicker?

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That's what I want. Season this. We'll get to their magic. It's great. But yeah, they

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went down to Cathay and that was where they discovered for the first time, damn, people

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taste good. So they started eating people. Oh, no. Naturally, for a quick side tangent

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in into Cathay, they're led by the dragon emperor who even more than Sigmar, probably

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the closest thing fantasy has to Big E is just Big D, Big Dragon. Big D energy. Yeah.

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Pissing him off by eating all of his followers went about as well as you would expect for

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someone who's closest equivalent is the god emperor. Yeah. So but he had a bit more of

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a I'll give I'll give the dragon emperor this. He had a bit more of a creative streak, I

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would say, because instead of just killing them all, he dropped a comment on their homeland,

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wow, which killed two thirds of them got rid of all the remaining food and then drove them

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out of Cathay. Oh, ones that were left. I must admit, I like the idea of the stragglers

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being kicked out of Cathay. Any familiar with that? That meme of that Australian guy just

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like, what is the charge for enjoying a Chinese meal? Yeah, it was a person. No, the meal

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was the people. Yeah. Yeah. So that meteor, too, must have been alive because it burrowed

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to the molten core of the planet, which by God, how hard did he pull it down from the

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heavens? And I'll send you a picture again of what it looks like. It's called the Great

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Ma. Yeah. That's where the ogre homeland used to be. Oh, it's the sarlacc pit monster. What's

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going on here? Yeah. So that, pardon me, then their homeland would be a little bit west

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of Cathay, a little bit west, a little bit north, a little bit all over the place. Yes,

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the sarlacc pit. So yeah, he dropped a sarlacc pit on them, except the sarlacc pit is the

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size of like Texas. Oh, well, that's big. Wow. Which I, yeah, I get no exact figures given

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beyond it is a big hole in the ground with teeth that burps. Amazing. So that's fun.

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And it, this had the secondary side effect of cursing them to be even hungrier, which

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they could already probably eat a cow over the course of half a day. Now they can never,

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ever be full for more than like a couple moments at a time. Oh no. And this is after the old

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ones were like, we're going to like just temper that a little bit. And that's, that still

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led to them eating most of the resources of where they're from. I believe in society.

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Oh, you've doomed us all. Yeah. That was, yeah, that was like after the initial creation

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before the old ones could fully pull them back from the hunger train. Now they're cursed

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to be hungrier. The hunger games, if you will. I've got a question though. Yeah. Do ogres

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eat each other or do they draw the line there? Oh yeah. Oh, fair enough. In fact, I was about

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to say, they have no food left because a meteor just hit what was left of their whole blood

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after they ate most of it. They were driven out of Cathay. So people's off the menu again.

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All they got is each other, which turned into, you calling it a civil war, right? That's,

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that's a bit too complicated. There was no like ideology here or anything like that.

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It was just survival of the fittest. And so they just started eating each other. A civil

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gnaw, if you will. Cause they were gnawing on each other's bones. Yeah. So, like survival

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of the fittest, prior to this, you know, there might have been, you know, some ogres that,

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you know, they might've looked a bit different, you know, they, like, you know, they all would

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have been big, but maybe they weren't, you know, the big fatty fat fat to quote Scout

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from Team Fortress 2. Yeah. Now after they all had to eat each other to survive, the

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end result was the, the only way they saw it to live was eat, eat, eat everything, including

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each other because natural selection, only the strongest ogre has got to get out of this,

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which on the one hand kind of shifted them that much closer to being the evil side of

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things. But you know, for what they got out of it is that every ogre left is now like

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nine feet tall, covered in fat and muscle and shooting them at a cannonball is probably

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just going to tickle. Yeah. Survival of the fittest, if you will. Survival of the fittest,

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I like that one. That one's good. Yeah. So not great. And with that, Cathay's blocked

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by natural barriers, partially including the new big mouth. So time to go west. At one

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point there was an ogre named Groth One Finger. I'm going to make some assumptions about how

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many digits he had. He led his tribe to the site of the impact. They saw the big mouth

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and they now worship it as a deity. Oh. Now that no matter where ogres are born in the

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world, they try and make a pilgrimage to at least once in their lives. And what little

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artistic skill they have, they'll adorn like their armor and tents and stuff and images

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of the great maw, which is it's just a big mouth, like with teeth all around it. It's

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not complicated. Nothing in the ogres is complicated. I mean, I suppose if they're eating each

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other, they've probably got loads of bones lying around they can use to make like approximations

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of teeth and stuff. Yeah. And since, you know, they do worship it, they throw food in it.

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They also feed it. Oh, so they're like, even though I'm starving, I've got to feed the

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mouth first. Interesting. It's yeah, they, uh, it'll, it'll if they're completely starving,

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they probably won't, you know, give all of their food to them. Right. Yeah. But they're

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gonna they're gonna they're gonna make sure the maw gets his gets its eating. I must say

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the was the guy's name something one finger. Groth one finger. I wonder if he ate his remaining

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fingers and then he was like, I need one. Is that maybe that's how he got his name. He

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might have or maybe someone else ate them. Who knows? Or maybe he bit them off and chucked

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them into the into the mouth and was like, I give you these but I need one so I can still

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point at things. Yeah. In exchange, now they have the first of their two lures of magic

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they can cast the lore of the maw. Oh, it lets them cast fist. What they Well, they

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cast the spell and then a big magical fist comes from the sky and punches down. Oh, and

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if you're under the fist, you'd you kind of get Tom and Jerry. Oh, okay. I thought if

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it was mouth magic, it would be more like a big, big chomping mouth. A fist. Okay. Fair

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enough. I believe if you're remembering from Total War, one of the spells is like a big

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rock mouth that comes out of the ground. So that's also an option. That's cool. Yeah.

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You know, other stuff like that, like it's all about eating and stuff. So they can it

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gives them a little bit of regeneration. It gives them a little bit of resistance against

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missiles, let's have hit harder because you got to kill the thing. Well, you don't need

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to kill it to eat it. You got to disable the enemy to eat them. You have to subdue it.

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You have to subdue it. You don't need to necessarily kill it. And in fact, just done it for a few

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seconds so you can get your mouth around. Once it stopped moving. Yeah, once it stopped

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mostly moving, it's time to eat. But with that, we've we're going forward a bit more.

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So there the ogres are one of if not the first races to go across all the borders like of

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the land the old ones gave them, like the dwarfs stayed in their mountains. The elves

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for a while stayed on Othuan. Where exactly humanity's original home is never quite discussed,

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be it Cathay, Nehacara, or, you know, like the barbarian tribes in the old world. But

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you could also just imagine, you know, they they plopped humans down in a couple different

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places, right? Yeah. So ogres, I believe, were the first ones to explicitly like we're

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moving off where the old ones gave us. Not that they really know much about the old ones.

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It's not good enough. It's time to go. So they go west again to through the mountains

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of Morn, which is where most of them live now. And like, let's go like 60 to 70 percent

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of them live. They're pretty, they're pretty nomadic, but we're the biggest concentration

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of ogres is here. They found in these mountains of Morn things that were pretty damn big.

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A lot of meat on those, you know, beasties. Of course, those beasts are big enough they

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can eat them back. So once again, it's time for another survival of the fittest round,

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further toughening the ogres up. You got to be real big if you want to survive here. So

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once again, a little bit less ogres, but the ones who are remain are real damn tough. I

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must admit the guys who are like the strongest must be watching whatever like a basilisk

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or whatever eating their their kin and being like battening them up a bit. He's going to

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taste even better now. Pretty much. Probably. Yeah. And eventually they they reached the

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top of these these peaks and noticed that the climate changed a bit. It got a bit more

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temperate. There are these nice rolling hills with these massive herds of mammoths and other

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great creatures followed, which were tended to by another experimental race of the old

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ones, the Sky Titans, who do not get much love in Warhammer. And they're going to get

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even less love shortly. Because the ogres for this part are going to cosplay as skaven.

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OK. Sky Titans were these really big, educated, brilliant, magical beings. The older ones

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made they were they were like super giants. They you know, they lived on like these cloud

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fortresses and only really went to the bottom when it was time to tend the herd. And they

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were they were real cool people. Are they like humanoid or are they kind of weird looking?

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They were pretty humanoid. I can was we get to the the end of this little conflict. I

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can send you what they look like now. OK, it's rather less dignified. But early on,

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they're pretty human, human looking. They're noble, educated. You know, they walk up right.

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No slouch. No, nothing like that. Uh, people, the ogre started eating their cattle, which

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upset them. Yeah, it upset them. The cattle were very big. So sometimes the cattle would

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fight back and usually took all of an ogre tribe to take the, you know, a single mammoth

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on. I must admit, but that's a whole lot of meat you get from that mammoth. I'm envisioning

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Skyrim at this point where you get in the first area near White Horn, you see the big

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mammoths and the giants are like, oh, no, clubs. And then you get hit by one and you

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join the Tamriel space program. Exactly. Yeah. Which is about how it happened. Sky Titans

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not happy you're screwing with the mammoths. So they fight a war against the ogres to get

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rid of this annoying pest, which again, is a running theme. Sky Titans did kill most

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of the ogres in what is called the war in the sky, which is actually which is a pretty

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cool name. But even with their further reduced numbers, still like a hundred to one, if not

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more against the sky Titans. Okay. And they tended to live alone. So how it would usually

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go is a sky Titan killed a whole lot of ogres. They would catch him and then eat him quite

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frequently alive until most of them were eaten. They were actually like pretty chill with

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the old ones themselves too, because they were just, they were real cool. They would

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be a protagonist faction if the ogres didn't waltz through and eat them. Same old story.

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You're promised a promise you go you're really promising. You're going to get a good job.

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You've got a degree and you're eaten by ogres too soon. Yeah. And the end result was there

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was two paths left for Eddie. The last of the sky Titans were so big that they're kind

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of like orcs only without the fighting. They just get bigger and their skin more like stone

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like and tougher as they age. Okay. They again, I have no idea what exactly happened here.

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They set sail on fortresses built on top of clouds. Where they went, did they survive

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this journey? God only knows. That plot point doesn't really come back. I'm just imagining

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them on clouds in space. Like how are they doing this? I don't know, but it's kind of

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funny looking. Yeah. Waltzing in the void on a big, big puffy cloud.

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Some of them might have also just become one with the mountains because they just got so

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big and covered in stone that you couldn't tell. And the last few, they devolved a little

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bit and then a little bit of inbreeding happened and then a little bit more and then a little

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bit more devolving. And then they turned into the modern giants of Warhammer fantasy who

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are significantly smaller, significantly dumber, still about 50 feet tall and can pretty easily

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beat you to death. Yeah, definitely looks like a Skyrim giant quite a lot. Compared to what

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they were, pretty tragic fate. Yeah. Nowadays, they mostly just follow beastmen, greenskin

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and chaos. If they're bribed with booze and the promise of a fight. Quite sad. The alcoholic

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faction. Brilliant. More so than the dwarves. So with that, the ogres have once again eaten

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everything here and kept going. They climbed the peaks of the giants once again and now

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we're properly all throughout the mountains of Morn now. Like the, it's one of the big

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mountain ranges between the old world and Cathay. They started interacting with more

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races more. For example, first off, they found more animals than they could ever, ever hope

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to imagine. They finally found a place that can sustain them permanently-ish. Permanently-ish.

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They found dwarves, which is nice. The dwarves keep trying to mine out the mountains of Morn

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every now and again, which means they're going to the ogres' home, which means the ogres

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have a door dash. I was gonna say, a tasty morsel. Look at this thing. Kind of gritty.

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Yum yum. You know, there were greenskins there too, because this is a warhammer setting.

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If you look hard enough, you're going to find an orc. Humans also scattered every now and

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then. And of course the skaven, which they also ate. And in fact, if I say something

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alive, just going forward, they eat it. Do they have any adverse effects of eating skaven?

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Nope. Oh, they seem like a good counter then. Just like chuck a bunch of ogres in, they'll

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sort it out. That's a pretty reliable solution and we're going to get kind of something like

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that soon. They kept some, at one point, they captured some goblins to keep as pets, which

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they bred and ate, of course. And after a couple generations of this, they created a

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new subspecies of greenskin called knobblars, which are a mix of like sous chef, pack mule,

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and emergency snack for the ogres. There was another race that once lived in the mountains

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of Mourn called dragon ogres. They're not ogres, they're not dragons, but they're called

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dragon ogres. They're chaotic little fellas that the ogres beat up and drove them out.

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Sometimes beastmen show up in the mountains of Mourn, you know, because you know, beastmen

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like greenskins are everywhere. Ogres also eat those and drive them out. There's a lot

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of them winning, because when you're an ogre, nothing's really bigger than you. And this

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is still, again, you know, and Warhammer fantasy is still like medieval Renaissance times.

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Guns aren't that good yet. And to be fair, the bigger the target, the more of a buffet

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you get after you've done the fighting. So like, who cares? So if one ogre isn't enough,

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it probably means more ogres are coming because that's a lot of meat. And with, you know,

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with them kind of claiming the mountains of Mourn, they started getting a bit more like

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fixed positions. Like, it's not just pure nomadic stuff now. They're still, you know,

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they wander around a lot, but the leaders of their tribes called tyrants, they're a

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bit more permanent now. If you leave for a year and come back, you can assume the same

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ogre will still be in charge of that area, or at least his tribe will still be there

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in case, you know, a challenge or a threat killed him, right? Which again, more of these

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invasions including demons and stuff, because everyone likes to, at some point, everyone

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is just going to wander here for one reason or another, and the ogres are going to eat

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them.

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It's free food.

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Yeah. In fact, I think if I remember correctly, the skaven attempting to invade the ogres

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almost led to their extinction, because the ogres found a way into their tunnels.

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Ah, that's amazing.

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And then they realized there's a whole lot of meat down there.

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So just to clarify, the skaven almost went extinct, not the ogres.

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No, the ogres did not almost go extinct. It was the rats.

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Oh good. So I was going to say, that's pretty funny that like the faction known as like,

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they'll just take over everything and cause everyone problems. And the ogres are just

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like, big talk, lunch, you know, run.

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Yeah, pretty much. They got into the Under Empire and then realized there's a whole lot

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of rats.

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Yeah. Or you can eat, if you will. And they can eat everything.

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They can eat a whole lot. And it's fitting, you know, they finally settled down slowly,

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but surely they started realizing diplomacy. Maybe not a bad idea, right?

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For example, let's say some ogres, you know, set up shop around your area, right?

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You know, and you know, it's medieval times. You're a small farming village, right?

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They could, and depending on their mood, will eat your whole town, right? Like nothing is

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going to stop them. But they started realizing a couple things. One, just, you know, making

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demands of them, like say, hey, every, you know, every month, give us X amount of cows

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means that you keep getting meat. It's not just a one time binge.

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In the first ogre speaking like, fellas, I found something out today.

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What?

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My food makes more food.

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What?

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Yeah. My food can make more food. So I get infinite food. What's infinite mean? Don't

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worry about it. Food, more food.

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Big, more food, more food. Yeah. That was about that. Yeah. It's about that.

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And this ended up with the side effect of the ogres discovering the concept of a protection

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racket because when towns would come to, you know, let's say, you know, some orcs or beastmen

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invade the town, right? Well, those are all made out of food. Yeah. So the ogres keep

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the town safe, get to eat whatever tried to invade the town, and then the town keeps giving

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them food for protecting them. Yeah. So slowly but surely the orcs, the ogres are discovering

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the wonder of this kind of work, which is just great.

391
00:39:59,940 --> 00:40:05,140
And not being funny, if the orcs attack the grain mill, they can't eat the grain mill,

392
00:40:05,140 --> 00:40:08,960
but they can eat the grain. So they might as well protect the grain mill. So more grain

393
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:13,480
means more food and they can kill the orcs and eat the orcs. It's a win-win.

394
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:21,000
Yeah. It's like slowly by proxy educating the ogres because they're not going to farm.

395
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:26,260
I don't believe they really farm, but they're smart enough to know that someone who does

396
00:40:26,260 --> 00:40:31,800
farm makes food. So if you keep them safe, you get more food. And they can't fight the

397
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:37,240
orcs like we can, so we'll just do it instead. And if one of my brothers dies, I'll eat my

398
00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:42,000
brother who's died. I eat no matter what. I'm eating no matter what.

399
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:52,920
Yeah, it's great. So we're kind of getting to modern ogres. They're everywhere. Like

400
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:57,160
I said, most of them are in the mountains of Mourn, but most isn't like, you know, 90%.

401
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:02,640
I guess at least 60, 70% are in the mountains of Mourn. A lot of them are still nomadic,

402
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:07,640
go all over the place. They'll come back to the mountain, you know, the great ma at least

403
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:14,760
once if they can help it, you know, the ogre religious pilgrimage. But they're everywhere.

404
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:19,600
They're like orcs. If you look hard enough, you're going to find an ogre eventually, probably

405
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:29,520
eating an orc. They're a little over the place. There is one more thing before I talk about

406
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,700
a little bit about the characters, because some of the cultural stuff they've got from

407
00:41:33,700 --> 00:41:39,580
them is related to some of the characters. So I figure I'll talk about them as we come

408
00:41:39,580 --> 00:41:46,880
to it. But one of the last things they did is there's a big old volcano in the mountains

409
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:56,960
of Mourn. This is how you get a fire belly ogre. There's a big process, you know, there's

410
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:03,260
a lot of rites that go into becoming an ogre fire belly, right? The end result is you become

411
00:42:03,260 --> 00:42:14,760
a what is it? Like a law, you can cast the law of fire, right? Okay. The part of the

412
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:22,320
way of doing this includes them drinking the lava. If I remember correctly, there's also

413
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:31,400
they have to drink down something called devil pepper, devil pepper curry. Wow. Which is

414
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:36,480
burns their gut and ogre gut and you better believe that they can eat spicy food for most

415
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:44,680
of them does not mean much to them. And I believe it's also noted this curry is also

416
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:56,040
useful for ending sieges. So do it. Why not? Assume it tastes and smells like whatever

417
00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:00,600
whatever that image brings to mind. I'm just imagining the horrendous heartburn you get

418
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:07,760
from trying even the ogres eating that. Oh, I got heartburn. Oh, yeah. They got a they

419
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,080
got to catch a fire beetle, which is like the size of a horse. And then yeah, and then

420
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:20,720
they drink the lava. And if if you live, well, if you don't live, you know what happens.

421
00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:26,000
You burn to death and lava. Seared seared food for your brothers to eat. It's fine.

422
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:32,720
It's fine. But if if if the volcano God blesses you, now you can cast fire spells and you're

423
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:39,360
even a little bit pretty resistant to fire. Yeah, I'll bet. From the inside out. Yeah,

424
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:48,840
I I to my knowledge, there's a there's no particular lore about how they discovered

425
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:55,600
this. So I just have to assume it was a bet. And then the end result was holy shit, this

426
00:43:55,600 --> 00:44:00,600
guy can breathe fire now. We got to get in on that. Well, again, if their character trait

427
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:05,640
is literally I'm so hungry, I'm starving. Screw it. I'll try eating the lava. What's

428
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:12,240
the worst that can happen? Oh, it's actually quite good. What? Yeah, watch this. He's using

429
00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:17,520
fire. That's amazing. Let me try. Oh, I'm dying. Oh, oh, well, doesn't work all the

430
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:27,080
time. Trial and error. No. So with that, we'll get to some of their characters because the

431
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:32,680
characters, like I said, unlike a lot of Warhammer fantasy characters, they're not that old because

432
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:37,040
ogres they're not you know, they're not like elves and dwarves where they're more or less

433
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:47,980
functionally immortal. They're pretty new. Ish. So the first one is Grease's Gold Tooth.

434
00:44:47,980 --> 00:44:54,440
Would you like his full name, Andy? Yes, please. Trade Lord Grease's Tribe Stealer Drake Crush

435
00:44:54,440 --> 00:45:04,360
Horde Master Gold Tooth the shockingly obese. I love that the shockingly obese. Does he

436
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:09,960
like that title? I assume so. Oh, yeah, he gave it to it himself. Oh, brilliant. And

437
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:16,640
like in in Total War, he'll say it like he's the he's the fattest of them all. He's like

438
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:25,960
being fat. He's so fat that he is carried around by a carpet of noblars. Those poor

439
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:38,080
guys. Yeah. And here's here's an image of him. Oh, that's amazing. Who made his trousers?

440
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:43,600
They're huge. I someone who's probably not getting paid enough shoes as well. Whoever

441
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:52,000
his tailor is doing a lot of work. Wow. Yeah. Also, at one point, I'm assuming for technical

442
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:57,000
reasons they weren't able to fully recreate the noblar carpet for Total War Hammer. So

443
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:05,160
instead, he has an ogre Stone Age Walmart mobility scooter. Oh, wow. He drifts around

444
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:11,240
on like it's the fast and the furious. That's amazing. And at one point, there was a bug

445
00:46:11,240 --> 00:46:28,560
that could get him to 999 speed. It's a zoo. Oh, my. Retreat. Yeah. The ogre flash. He

446
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:35,920
he however, despite be despite being that you can see him, you can look at him, you

447
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:43,400
have eyes. He was he was pretty smart. Smart enough to do you know, more beyond just being

448
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:52,380
content with beating things to death and then eating them. So what he did his his his story

449
00:46:52,380 --> 00:47:00,120
begins after killing and eating his dad. Oh, wow. Okay. Whose name is GOFG. golf. I think

450
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:11,000
Okay, go go. Yeah, go go. Yeah. And now he's he's the tyrant of that tribe. And good old

451
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:16,640
Greece has decided he didn't want to just be the boss of his tribe. The gold tooth tribe,

452
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:25,560
he wanted to be the boss of all the ogres. Now, he was in a very particularly advantage

453
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:32,840
and advantageous place. He was situated right near the ivory road, which is also known as

454
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:39,240
the Silk Road, because sometimes Jay James was just not trying. It's just the Silk Road,

455
00:47:39,240 --> 00:47:48,680
the real life Silk Road. It's that which his predecessor, you know, his dad, use that to,

456
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:53,080
you know, caravans would come through, they would raid and then eat the caravans and then

457
00:47:53,080 --> 00:48:00,680
steal all their stuff. Grisus, however, he's a bit smarter, like I said. And like I like I was saying

458
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:07,720
before, with new ogres realizing you defend the town, you get money. Grisus has ruined the world

459
00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:16,440
forever because he has discovered the concept of a toll booth. Oh, no. And sure enough, if a

460
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:23,080
Cathayan caravan or one going Cathay comes through, they get an option. Pay me a little bit of cargo

461
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:27,000
from your thing and you can go on your merry way, right? You know, give me some of your food, give

462
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:32,040
me some of the gold. Go on through, buddy. They'll even make sure to give you a little

463
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,640
bit of protection if you want. You know, pay a little bit extra. You can take some of the ogres

464
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:43,720
with you to keep you safe, right? Well, if you don't pay, you get eaten. Yeah. So you better

465
00:48:43,720 --> 00:48:50,840
believe most people take this toll. I'm just imagining him doing the troll song from Always

466
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:57,000
Sunny with Danny. You gotta pay the ogre toll to get to see the moor hole. You gotta pay the toll

467
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:05,880
to get in or I'll eat you. Yeah, he will eat you. Although also we remind me of RuneScape. I think

468
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:10,440
it's the ogres in RuneScape. They have a naming convention where you're named after the first

469
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:18,840
thing you try to eat and one of them is called Dad. That's brilliant. Yeah, he had quite the start.

470
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:27,000
He actually too, he's good friends with one of the, I'll just call him Dragon Primarchs to help

471
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:34,600
it a bit, of Cathay named Xiaoming who they bonded over some daddy issues. Xiaoming is a,

472
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:40,520
he likes to experiment, which isn't illegal like it is in the Imperium, but one of the things he

473
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:46,680
likes to experiment with is Warpstone. Oh, well not so. So he might, you know, there might be

474
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:52,360
some voices in his head that aren't his. Oh no. Which has made him a bit of an outcast,

475
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:57,960
at least in his dad's eye. He doesn't hate him. This isn't like, as far as I know, there's no,

476
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:03,240
you know, Lost Legion stuff about to happen to Xiaoming, even, you know, ignoring even End Time

477
00:50:03,240 --> 00:50:08,760
stuff. I don't think there's ever been any indication that he's going to get Leman Rust,

478
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:15,080
or I guess in this case Yuan Boad, but a bit of an outcast. So him and Grisus, you know, come to

479
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:20,520
terms. They bond a bit. They're actually good friends. And that helps the toll thing come about

480
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:25,560
a bit more smoothly when one of the leading figures of Cathay is like, let's try this toll

481
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:30,120
thing out. I just like the idea that whenever he meets him, he has like some confectionary,

482
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:35,720
he has like a whole like caravan of sweets and stuff. And he's like, Grisus, my man,

483
00:50:35,720 --> 00:50:40,040
brought you some stuff. He's like, oh, thanks, mate. Nom, nom, nom, nom, nom. And they bond over a meal.

484
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:47,960
He, Grisus made a joke about how Xiaoming should just eat his dad like he did. And Xiaoming just

485
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:53,320
said like, I don't think anyone's got a gut big enough to eat that guy. I've thought about it.

486
00:50:53,320 --> 00:51:01,640
I don't think it's possible. Just great little interaction. Some other of Grisus's biggest hits

487
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,720
on his way to becoming, you know, the number one ogre power, like the closest they have to a faction

488
00:51:05,720 --> 00:51:15,240
leader, is there was a tribe that refused to, you know, to join him. So he buried them alive by

489
00:51:15,240 --> 00:51:22,200
causing an avalanche, which he did by throwing boulders at them and yelling so loud it caused

490
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:32,440
an avalanche. That's awesome. Which is just great. Come spring, he approaches another tribe

491
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:39,880
to challenge the tyrant there to a guts out pit fight. And the guts out thing is important. We'll

492
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,560
get to that. But it means you're not protecting your gut, the most sacred part of an ogre body.

493
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:54,600
Right. This is to the death. The way he won is the other tyrant was a lot bigger and stronger,

494
00:51:54,600 --> 00:52:01,480
right? Grisus is fatter. So he let the other tyrant, Grisus was the gentleman, he let the

495
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:06,280
other tyrant get down on the pit first, right? And then Grisus's belly flopped onto him.

496
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:09,080
And broke his neck.

497
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:13,560
I was wondering what you're gonna say. And then he suffocated him with his belly.

498
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:20,360
That works too. Pretty much. Some of the ogres present weren't happy. They didn't count this as

499
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:25,720
a legit win, right? And then he beat and ate three of them in a row. And then people stopped

500
00:52:25,720 --> 00:52:35,000
complaining. So, uh, then he's like eating the first piece. It's like, that was just the appetizer.

501
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:41,400
And they're like, ah, it's okay. It's fine. Like you said, they're kind of one dimensional,

502
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:47,880
but it's a really good dimension. Yeah. It's like, if you've got one joke, but it's a really good,

503
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:53,000
you know, it's a really good bit. By God, keep it going. And there's like an eccentricity and

504
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:59,080
novelty about just a faction that their whole culture and identity revolves around. Like eating,

505
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:06,280
like being fat. And I like anything that makes me bigger or can give me more food. And every

506
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:13,320
decision I make is about procuring, uh, what's the calories and possibly cholesterol. That's,

507
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:20,040
that's the way to go. Fair enough. Yeah. Uh, there's actually a funny event, which I don't

508
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:24,920
know how they got the inspiration for this, but in total warhammer, one of their mechanics is having

509
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:29,160
meat, right? Like if you don't have enough meat, the ogres aren't happy. They're worse in combat

510
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:38,360
because there's no food. You find a valley of colorful horses and it's just like so perfect

511
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:44,600
and lovely. And there are, there's unicorns and it's a my little pony reference. And then the ogres

512
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:52,120
and then the event, there's no choice in this event. Uh, but the end text of the event is

513
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:58,280
something along the lines of a great feast was had by all. You gain like 15 meat. Amazing.

514
00:53:59,960 --> 00:54:04,200
I don't know. There's another event. I don't know any of the names of the my little pony characters,

515
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:09,960
but I'm just imagining they go like, no, they're eating so and so. 15 meat. That's pretty much.

516
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:16,920
Uh, there's another event where one of them invents ketchup and you have an option to either use it

517
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:22,600
or not use it because that's not made out of meat. That's made out of vegetable. Is there a

518
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:27,000
clad notice if you choose to use it? Is there like a D buff or they're just like, no, that's fine.

519
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,960
I think if you don't use it, nothing happens. And if you do use it, like there's like an upside and

520
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:36,120
a downside. It's been a while since I've played an ogre campaign. So I don't quite remember,

521
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:40,200
but they, you can invent ketchup. I feel like they like mayonnaise, which is just great because

522
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:44,360
mayonnaise has eggs in it and that's, that's animal products. They might like mayonnaise.

523
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,560
Yeah. That's like the super condiment. Like, yes, this is the best thing ever.

524
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:53,160
You should, uh, you know, if you ever in warhammer fantasy, you know, float the idea around,

525
00:54:53,160 --> 00:55:00,680
although if you're wrong, they're going to eat you. Yeah. Uh, and, uh, the one, the, the one last few

526
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:07,560
things about Greece is that that big ol' sceptery has, uh, well, he doesn't really, he uses it like

527
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:12,600
a club because of course he does grants him the strength of a giant. So he's already an ogre.

528
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:19,960
He can hit like an ogre. Well, now he hits like a sky Titan and that magic crown, uh, enhances his,

529
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:24,840
you know, he's already pretty smart. This brings them up to almost people levels of smart. Wow.

530
00:55:25,720 --> 00:55:31,800
Uh, it was actually commissioned by him, uh, by the best magic users and blacksmiths the empire had,

531
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:37,240
which isn't a side is actually, I, I just find pretty cool that there's a magic relic like this

532
00:55:37,240 --> 00:55:42,360
that isn't made by, you know, elves or dwarfs or something. The empire did this. Do we know why

533
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,480
they did this? They're just like, I guess they won't eat us if we make this crown.

534
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:51,240
Probably that. And like I said, it was commissioned like ogres out of everything you can give them.

535
00:55:51,240 --> 00:55:56,280
They're probably not going to scam you. Like he did generally, he paid them. Yeah. I guess they're

536
00:55:56,280 --> 00:56:03,000
honestly going to eat you alive. They're not going to lie about it. No, no, not at all. Uh,

537
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:09,480
the next ogre character. So I can talk a little bit about that whole gut thing is brag the gutsman.

538
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:16,680
Ooh. Uh, he was, you know, nothing super interesting at him, but he did find out from a young age,

539
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:21,480
he was real good at killing things and he, uh, he seemed to be really good at finding like the

540
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:28,200
best place to kill something. Right. Okay. Uh, so like he knows where to swing for the weak points.

541
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:32,920
He is, it's like an inbuilt sense on whether, you know, the video game weak weak spot. So he's the

542
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:44,040
ogres version of the lion. Kind of. Uh, but aside from that, wasn't, wasn't super interesting until

543
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:51,240
he forged his weapon, the great gut gouger from the magical axis of a black orc, which, uh, made

544
00:56:51,240 --> 00:57:00,520
him real good at killing. Uh, but what made him real infamous amongst the ogres is that he realized

545
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:05,800
with it, with that weapon, he can cut around the, the gut plates, the ogres all wear, because most

546
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:11,800
the ogres, ogres, they don't have much armor except around their gut. They like to keep that

547
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:20,200
gut safe. Yeah. Bragg realized I can cut around that and disembowel them because, which horrifies

548
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:26,200
all the other ogres, uh, like guts are sacred to them. Everything, everything about them is food.

549
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:31,960
The stomach is where the food goes, right? You know, intestines, stomach, this sacred body part.

550
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:41,320
Well, uh, not only does he, you know, go for the closest thing the ogres have to a taboo when he

551
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:49,720
fights, the ogres have a lot of guts, right? Yeah. Well, when you rip their guts out, it is a very

552
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:56,600
long process as all of those guts spill out, pretty much irreversible because they're stone age people

553
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:03,160
and it's agonizing because your guts are unraveling. Yeah. So he would, he became almost

554
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:08,680
immediately once he figured this one out, uh, social outcast, which he didn't care about, uh, kind of

555
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:14,600
like the lion. He didn't really care what people thought of him. Uh, so he just became like a one

556
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:24,920
man murder machine, uh, and we're just kind of, he's just nomadic. Uh, it, everyone likes having him

557
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:32,600
around at first because he's real good at killing, right? But they don't like when he stays around

558
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:40,040
because if at one point he's hated also, so someone's going to probably challenge him,

559
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:43,960
he rips their guts out and then he gets kicked out, which he doesn't care about because then he

560
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,880
just repeats this process all over the place. And he doesn't have a following. He's just like on

561
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:53,160
his own most of the time. Is that the idea? No, he'll just like, he would, he'll just show up for,

562
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:59,160
you know, to another ogre tribe hanging out for a bit, gets kicked out, rinse and repeat. Okay. Uh,

563
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:05,800
he wears an executioner's hood because he's, he's, he, he's aware people view him as an executioner.

564
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:09,400
So it was like, well, I'm going to play it up. I can't beat him. Might as well join them. Yeah.

565
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:15,320
Play it up. Yep. Uh, and he can never become a tyrant because his reputation is so shit that

566
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:21,560
even if he kills the old one, no one's going to follow him. At least he's like, oh, this is my

567
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:25,400
thing. I'll, I'll just do this. I'll be the executioner guy. I've got my own look. It's fine.

568
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:35,400
I'm unique. Yep. Uh, the next, the, uh, so that's, that's a bit rough. Uh, next one is Scrag the

569
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:45,640
Slaughterer who's yeah, the name says most of it. He's Greg. He slaughters. Next. Uh, with,

570
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:51,160
with some meat hooks, he has a giant cooking pot attached to his back that he grabs around.

571
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:59,640
And as he fights, he throws people into it. To be fair, that's, that's quite an ingenious solution.

572
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:07,800
Like I don't want to fight or eat. Why not do both at the same time? I can cook and kill

573
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:17,000
simultaneously. I'm a genius. Um, he's got some specially trained noblers in service directly to

574
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:23,000
him, which incidentally means they outrank a lot of the ogres. Uh, and whatever, whatever, when he

575
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:27,560
just tosses back and he misses something, they, they just grab it and dunk it in, which is great.

576
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:34,680
Like a basketball, like just like, uh, dunk it's in the pot. Uh, he, he was the head slaughtermaster

577
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:39,960
of his tribe, which is just a lovely nerve tear, you know, a lovely term to call your head cook.

578
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:50,040
What, uh, what ended up having, and the reason he has those chains attached to him is because

579
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:56,040
he cooked his tyrants favorite noblar and then served it to him where the tyrant hacked off

580
01:00:56,040 --> 01:01:05,160
Scrag's hands, had the pot chained to his body, and then threw him in some tunnels. Um, his Scrag's

581
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:15,640
response was to jam his cooking tools into his stumps. Uh, just go wandering. He found this thing

582
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:26,600
called gorgers, which are ogres that have been starved long enough to go a bit feral. Okay. And

583
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:33,640
after he killed enough of them and threw him in his pot, the gorger started following him as if

584
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:42,120
he was the leader of a tribe almost. Okay. Uh, him and his new gorger followers set upon this, uh,

585
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:48,600
this random tribe they stumbled upon, uh, ate them all. Uh, and when they did that, his wounds

586
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:54,200
all magically healed except for his missing hands. And, uh, now he's tribeless except for all the,

587
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:58,520
you know, the, uh, the gorgers that follow him around. And he's,

588
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:05,240
he's like Bragg where he just wanders around, but he's got a better reputation. Okay. Uh, he's happy,

589
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:12,840
he's welcomed by all because not only is he can cast the fist magic, uh, but he's also real good

590
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:17,400
at fighting and he cooks mid battle. Yeah. And he's real good at cooking, you know, let's, let's

591
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:21,960
give him his due. And I guess he's taboo, but he's not that taboo. He's not like, oh, I'm like,

592
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:27,880
yeah, attacking what's sacred to, uh, to their way of life with the guy. He's just like, I made a

593
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:33,400
mistake. I cooked the, the dude for my leader. Look, but check out, look at my whisk hands.

594
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:39,640
They're pretty cool. I'll make some salt. Yeah. He was more of like, you know, he did a social faux

595
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:44,120
pas, but now he's more than made up for it. So every time he showed up, he's like, yeah, I'm happy

596
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:57,080
to see you. Yeah. Uh, there was a one, one, two more I wanted to talk about. One of them named,

597
01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:05,080
uh, shrewd Folk, I believe. Uh, let me make sure I'm getting the name of that right. Yeah. Shrewd

598
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:11,320
Folk. Uh, the only thing he would did, and this is why I mentioned the ogres can be a definitely

599
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:16,440
bit evil is he would sell some of his tribe to rat ogres or to the Skaven. So they could turn them

600
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:23,160
into rat ogres. Okay. Uh, rat ogres are those big Skaven things or they like, have I seen these before?

601
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:31,400
Uh, I can send you an image of them. They're not, despite their name, they're not necessarily ogres.

602
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:38,040
Okay. Like ogre and like originality. These ones were, but not necessarily. He had him, he had his

603
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:43,080
tribesmen turned into that. Yeah. I, I, I was thinking like, oh, did they just like cut the

604
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:49,880
head off a Skaven, put it on the like next stump of like an ogre and be like, Hey, it's a rat ogre.

605
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:56,440
Sorted. There's a, there's as with most Skaven inventions, there's a hundred and one ways to get

606
01:03:56,440 --> 01:04:05,480
to the end result of that. All of them Horin. Yeah. And, uh, the last two are related. I cannot say

607
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:11,400
the name of this first one. I will send you his name and you will immediately know why I cannot

608
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:19,720
say this name. So we're going to call them Golg. Okay. Uh, that is his name. We, oh, okay. We cannot

609
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:30,200
say part of that name because we'll get demonetized. Yeah. So, uh, Golg Maneater. Okay. Uh, he is the

610
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:37,240
other like ogre character that I was saving part of their culture for because what it is, is his

611
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:45,720
name. Golg Maneater. He's a mercenary. One point he was one of the first ogres to realize that,

612
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:54,120
hang on a minute, mercenary work means I get paid. I get paid in food. I can go all over the world

613
01:04:54,760 --> 01:05:03,000
and I can eat whatever I kill. So he, uh, he, he started, he's known a pretty good life. Uh,

614
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:09,880
pardon me. I don't believe you, not one of the first, pardon me. I was a skip nerd, jump the gun

615
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:15,480
a bit on that one, but he's one of the most successful to the point that he's been able to

616
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:20,280
to the point that all ogre pretty much all ogre mercenaries are just called Maneaters.

617
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:28,040
In honor of him, I suppose. Yeah. Yeah. In honor of him. Okay. Uh, he got the name Maneater when

618
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:35,240
there was a, uh, he got a little bit drunk and argument came out with the guy who was paying him.

619
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:42,680
So he ate him and then took all his, all of his money with him. And the best part of this is that

620
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:48,520
he is insistent that the name is incredibly misleading because he isn't fussy about what or

621
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:54,600
who he eats. I mean, I'm not saying something for an ogre. I'm assuming they eat anything.

622
01:05:56,600 --> 01:06:07,000
Yeah, it's, but again, he is so good at being a mercenary that he, um, they named themselves

623
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:13,080
after him pretty much like going forward, which is pretty impressive. I'll give him credit, right?

624
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:20,920
So yeah, he was, when he shows up on the battlefield, cause he'll hire himself out

625
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:26,840
to anyone. Uh, whoever he hires them out for, for the most part, as long as they pay him,

626
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:35,320
he's going to do good work. Uh, speaking of like mercenaries, cause I noticed, um, they wear like

627
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:42,200
a lot of jewelry, the higher up ones. What's the, like they are, they value money, but also

628
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:47,560
meat. So like, how does that work? Do we know? Food is the most valuable thing. It's just,

629
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:53,480
like I said, they're not completely brain dead. Uh, they do for one, they, they do like, they do

630
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:58,200
have a basic idea of more money means higher status. Right. And I'm assuming they're like

631
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:04,840
that shiny. I like that cause it's shiny. Yeah, it's, it's, it's not like there's not going to

632
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:11,880
be much in the way of noble politicking with the ogres, but they're, they're, they have enough

633
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:17,800
brain power to form the idea of bigger hoard of stolen money mean more, more status, right?

634
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:24,360
Means I'm more important. And they also, um, like I said, there's, they are smart enough to realize

635
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:29,800
I can pay for food with money. And then the person who brings that food will keep bringing me food

636
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:33,880
when I pay them instead of me just eating them. And could that be like an element of

637
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:39,640
the size of their gut is revered in their culture, but by showing ostentatious jewelry,

638
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:44,760
they could be like, well, I've also worked with other species like the humans. So I also have

639
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:49,960
alliances. So you should respect me because I got this crown and this jewelry and this stuff.

640
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:57,320
Is that like an element of that maybe? Or I just stole this. I stole this and I look like obese,

641
01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:04,440
like obese Mr. T. Okay. Fair enough. The, the, the closest thing that would be like,

642
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:09,080
you know, an ogre has a lot of like treasures and stuff, right? Other ogres will know he's surely

643
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:15,000
been around and like earn that treasure, right? Even like, even if like the simplest scenario,

644
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:19,320
he just killed the guy whose treasure that was right. Yeah. Well, he was big enough to kill that

645
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:24,120
guy's treasure. So give him his credit. Right. So well, he's also got all this stuff he doesn't need,

646
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:30,840
I suppose. Yeah. Yeah. The, the concept of that web of alliances is probably a bit too much thinking

647
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:37,960
for the average ogre. But like a very, yeah, a very stupid version of that idea is in their head. So

648
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:43,320
it's like, Ooh, he's, he's been around. That means he must be a big fighter, big guy, real strong.

649
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:55,960
Yeah. Just, you know, same concept, a lot less words. Yeah. It's and as for like them as

650
01:08:55,960 --> 01:09:06,440
mercenaries in general, you know, I like my elves, right? I will use the words of an elf here.

651
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:11,320
Who could forget the ogres? Not anyone with a sense of smell. That's for sure.

652
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:16,360
Worst manners than trolls. And that's saying something. But there are a few troops you'd rather

653
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:22,120
have on your side in the heat of battle. This was an elf admitting that goddamn, they fight real good.

654
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:28,120
So they fight real good. That was gonna say, do they have any like particularly good moments where

655
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:32,840
they hate, they like helped out, dare I say the end times, but like, did they ever have like a moment

656
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:37,320
of glory where they're like, we're fighting with the elves or the humans and we won the good fight,

657
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:41,400
but then we were hungry and we might have eaten a few people, but no one minded because it was such

658
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:48,840
a stunning victory. There was a time, if I am remembering correctly, let me pull it up real

659
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:55,320
quick. Just one moment. Let me scroll through. They were working with Skarsnik a bit. I mean,

660
01:09:56,120 --> 01:10:01,880
it was, I believe it was, they were working with the dwarfs to retake the mountain of

661
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:09,080
Karak Eight Peaks, the Warhammer fantasy Stalingrad. Something happened where they didn't like working

662
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:13,320
with the dwarfs anymore. So then they were working with the goblins and started eating dwarfs.

663
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:20,680
It was very messy. The ogres don't do too much like shaking and moving on their own

664
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:29,080
because they don't care much for it. They care to eat. And if they get to eat, yeah. Oh no,

665
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:34,360
pardon me. What happened was our good friend Golg, right? Golg can't finish your name.

666
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:41,960
Was hired by the dwarfs to fight against the skaven and the ogres did do this quite successfully.

667
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:48,280
And then the green skins promised them more money. So then they betrayed the dwarfs and then the

668
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:52,280
fight gets even more out of hand because it's a three-way brawl very quickly turning into a

669
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:57,240
four-way brawl. So Golg just decides, I have enough money. This is not worth it. I'm leaving.

670
01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:03,240
Yeah. I've had my food. I'm full for now. Let's go, lads. Go find somewhere else to get some food.

671
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:05,880
Yeah. So that...

672
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:16,280
They're mercenaries. The highest bidder gets them on their side, right? To their credit,

673
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:23,800
they are... I choose to believe that was just some end times. We need the good guys to lose

674
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:30,680
shenanigans, right? Because for the most part, a man eater is going to be... He's aware that

675
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:36,520
if you keep eating everyone who hires you the moment a better deal comes with,

676
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:42,280
no one's going to hire you anymore. So they'll usually at least wait until that contract is up

677
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:52,760
before they'd start going, hey, I'm going to eat you. They'll give you a chance to either renew

678
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:58,680
the contract or walk away because they're going to someone else now. Yeah. I'm just envisioning,

679
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:02,440
surely there must have been attempts by the empire or someone to be like, hey,

680
01:12:02,440 --> 01:12:07,480
let's go to an encampment of ogres and be like, right, we've got a scaven problem.

681
01:12:07,480 --> 01:12:13,800
We can promise you months of food, lots to do. It's in your best interest. And if you want,

682
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:17,240
you can even keep the land because it's infested with scaven. We're probably not going to root

683
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:20,600
them out. Just come over here. It'll be really fun. Here's some sweets. Here's some...

684
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:27,560
Here's a boar. Here's 12 boars. Come and help fight. And they're just like, okay. But then maybe on

685
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:31,640
the way they're like, I'm a bit peckish and they eat the people that they're trying to help.

686
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:41,240
That can happen. But for the most part, every army in the world will hire on ogres from chaos

687
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:48,760
to the elves, the humans, to everyone because they know if you feed the ogre and pay him,

688
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:54,200
he's going to work with you. And I assume they're really good in like Norsca. It was like they got

689
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:58,920
all that belly fat to insulate them. There's loads of chaos to eat and kill. Take them to Norsca.

690
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:03,400
They won't mind. They don't mind the weather. No. Yeah, not at all. They will work with anyone.

691
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:09,480
You pay them and feed them. And like I said, they're resistant to chaos. They can choose to

692
01:13:09,480 --> 01:13:15,880
follow the chaos if they'd like for whatever reason you might worship a chaos god. Corn,

693
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:19,560
going to make them real good at fighting. Since they're real good at fighting, they can eat more

694
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:25,640
people. Like that kind of thing. So literally, if there is a faction in Warhammer fantasy,

695
01:13:26,440 --> 01:13:30,840
there are reasons an ogre would be hired and following them around because you want them on

696
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:36,200
your side. Because what they consider to be a rifle is what other factions consider to be a cannon.

697
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:41,000
Because I'm assuming they don't really care much for Sinch or Svanes. But I assume they'd have

698
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:45,080
quite an affinity for not just corn, but Nergal. Because he's the one who's like, oh, my troops

699
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:49,960
are bloated anyway. And it's all about entropy and decay. And it's like, oh, maybe they'd like

700
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:56,280
Nergal and corn, less siege. What are we going to do? Scheme? For what? Meat. I can just like

701
01:13:56,280 --> 01:14:00,680
bludgeon that guy to death and get meat. What do you want about? It's probably definitely more,

702
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:04,520
you know, corn and Nergal more so. But even with like Svanes and Sinch, like, you know,

703
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:11,320
the ogre might discover he's got a real taste for like, I don't know, like empire cuisine,

704
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:16,760
but he only wants the best, right? Well, he wants the best of the best meals. He becomes obsessed

705
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:22,920
with it. Svanes is going to offer those meals to him. And now you have the most rare things in a

706
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:30,360
Svanes army, something that's fast and tough. And even I'm just imagining Svanes being like,

707
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:36,360
I have something to gift you if you pledge your what is it? It is called a spice rack.

708
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:41,000
Yeah, like putting that all the season. It's like, this is the best thing ever. It's like,

709
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:44,040
you silly fool. You've given me a soul for nothing.

710
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,520
And then even with like, what is it?

711
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:55,640
Zinch like, Gris has had a little bit of cunning in them, right? Gris's does not worship Zinch at

712
01:14:55,640 --> 01:15:00,200
all. But like there was those moments, it's ogre cunning, where he invites the other guy to step

713
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:05,880
in the ring first and then belly flaps on him. But it's, it's cunning enough that there is thought

714
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:11,240
going on there. And I guess I could say like, oh, we can orchestrate a simple to to our perspective,

715
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:16,840
but really crazy scheme in their mind to be like, we can make infinite meat from this.

716
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:20,440
We talk to this person, we trick them, and then we do this. And then we betray them all like,

717
01:15:20,440 --> 01:15:28,280
okay, maybe. Yeah, like they literally any faction, even the lizardmen, like you can find an excuse

718
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:33,640
for ogres to be fighting with them as mercenaries. You pay them, give them meat. You've got a new

719
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:39,240
best friend for that battle. And like I said, that that end times thing, I, again, I'm, I choose to

720
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:46,280
believe that's end times garbage, because they know if you keep betraying your employer, you're

721
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:54,680
not going to get employed anymore. So with that, they can also learn a little bit. Sometimes they,

722
01:15:54,680 --> 01:16:02,520
sometimes they try and join the culture they're a part of, which for a variety of reasons, often

723
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:09,480
usually is well, it can end in tears. But a lot of the times it also like the people just let them

724
01:16:09,480 --> 01:16:15,320
like for one, let's say an ogre decides he's he wants to be part of Imperial nobility. He's got a

725
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:20,040
whole bunch of money from his mercenary career, right? He wants to join the finer things in life.

726
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:24,840
He doesn't really understand the finer things in life. He doesn't really understand politics.

727
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:31,320
But tell me Andy, are you going to tell the nine foot tall thing of sir pure muscle and fat that

728
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:36,840
he's not allowed at your fancy dinner party? No. And also he doesn't know any better. It's like,

729
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:41,640
ah, I gathered you the finest bore in all the land. And it's just like, oh, this is just like

730
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:46,120
this, the cast offs that's been like mulched together in like the butchers at the end of like

731
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:52,280
his shift. He won't know any better. Just like his big slab of mincemeat. Awesome. Num, num, num.

732
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:58,280
The finer things. Yeah. The way the way you handle that is, you know, you accommodate him. You say

733
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:02,760
we will of course give you the finest meat. And then you slap all the fat and gristle down on his

734
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:06,840
plate, which if anything, he's going to like more because fat good.

735
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:13,480
I give him off jewelry. And then, you know, not worth anything. Get him a get him a tailor to like

736
01:17:13,480 --> 01:17:19,400
help him extend his waistline for his trousers. Like I can get you a really good tailor. And then

737
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:24,200
the tailor is like taking them. This is like the smelly trousers. It's like, oh, is this like blood?

738
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:28,760
Yeah, there's a load of blood in this. Oh, it smells. Yeah. Just add a few more inches to the

739
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:35,400
waist. It's fine. Okay. If I have to. And if some, you know, some snobby Bretonian nobleman,

740
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:42,440
you know, who's visiting goes, this is, this is horribly yogurt uncultured. This is just

741
01:17:42,440 --> 01:17:48,920
uncultured. The yogurt you now have, you know, mid dinner entertainment as he eats the noble alive.

742
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:53,560
Yeah. And guzzles all of his wine as if it's like Ribena. He doesn't know any better. It's like,

743
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:59,240
ah, that's fine. Like, like, like that is from the Chateau. It took a thousand years to cultivate.

744
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:06,680
Look, look, look. Oh no. So, you know, he's, he's not, not often, but you will see them like in

745
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:10,600
nobility places. You would not expect to find one, but they, they decided they like it.

746
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:18,520
So, you know, sometimes again, you might find a, a very big and fat dwarf slayer who's not a dwarf,

747
01:18:19,480 --> 01:18:23,400
but the rest of the dwarfs are going to look at them and go, well, there's a lot of cultural

748
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:28,600
reasons. This doesn't really work for you, but I also really want to watch them wrestle a troll.

749
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:37,480
So he's allowed to stay. I have a morbid question. Yes. So everyone's favorite necromancer Nagash,

750
01:18:37,480 --> 01:18:43,640
could he resurrect a, I'm assuming he can, he can resurrect an ogre. And then because he's all like

751
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:50,600
bones and no skin, make him like suffer an eternity where like you want to eat, but you don't have like

752
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:57,000
a digestive system anymore or a belly and just have like this, although I suppose he doesn't really

753
01:18:57,000 --> 01:19:01,880
really need to have sentience if he's being necromanced, but I assume having a gigantic ogre

754
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:08,360
skeleton would be quite terrifying. Yeah. He could absolutely do that. Like in lore, like necromancy

755
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:12,680
can be anything. It's just for model and tabletop reasons. It's just people skeletons, right?

756
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:22,280
It's, he could do that. And in fact, the soul thing, like he could very easily put your soul

757
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:27,000
back in your necromancer body and torture an ogre like that. It's usually not worth the effort.

758
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:31,720
And the gosh, doesn't like anyone, but ogres in the grand skew of things are pretty far down his

759
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:38,440
shit list because even he knows, well, I could probably just give them money and then they'll

760
01:19:38,440 --> 01:19:42,200
help me kill things. Then I betray them later. Once all the killing is done, just, just the

761
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:48,200
gosh and his skeletal voice, like, I do not hate the silly fat men. They are simple turns.

762
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:51,400
Okay. Yeah. Fair enough.

763
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:57,240
They're, they, they, they do of course commit the grievous sin of being alive, which, you know,

764
01:19:57,240 --> 01:20:01,640
he will, he would of course, eventually, you know, I'm sure put them on the, the to do list,

765
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:05,720
but they're low down on it, right? You know, the Skaven are there, the, the, the tomb Kings are

766
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:10,760
there, even though they're not quite alive, they're around. He's got the ogres are like, you know,

767
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:15,800
probably one of the last things he'd kill. And to be honest, I assume that we say like, oh, ogres

768
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:19,720
are pretty good against like everything. I assume the hard counter is the tomb Kings and the

769
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:24,120
gas. Cause like, what are you going to eat? The bones? They haven't got anything to eat pretty

770
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:29,560
bad. Probably. Yeah. They like, if you hire them on as a mercenary, they're absolutely, you know,

771
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:33,000
going to go fight those on debt. You're going to have to bring double the like foods. Cause

772
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:38,520
they're not going to get any from the battlefield, I suppose. So yeah, unless the necromancer, they,

773
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:42,520
you know, they've got a lot of zombies, in which case the ogres are still going to eat that.

774
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:46,840
It doesn't matter that it's drippy sticky flesh. Yeah. Like just,

775
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:50,440
it doesn't matter that for one, it's just a rotting corpse. And for two, it's covered in dark

776
01:20:50,440 --> 01:20:54,120
mesh. It's food. Yeah. Food. They're going to eat it. Slimy. Yeah.

777
01:20:57,160 --> 01:21:00,120
Hey, hang it out to dry for a bit. You've got zombie jerky.

778
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:07,480
They do not care. And they can eat anything. If it is made out of,

779
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:13,880
if it is, can be remotely considered alive, which again includes demons somehow,

780
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:23,160
they will eat it. You know, demons again, like in, you know, like in 40 K, they, you know,

781
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:26,200
they get banished back to the realm of chaos when they die, right? They don't truly die.

782
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:31,880
Well, that just means the demons still got to be moving when you eat it. Yeah. It just means that

783
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:37,000
when it wakes up, it's going to have PTSD of it being eaten alive, which is not great for the demon.

784
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:44,680
No, in fact, they're so good at fighting that their total warhammer trailer was a

785
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:52,200
cord invasion, I believe led by Scarbrand, resoundingly defeated. I was just going to say,

786
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:58,760
like, I'm just imagining this like poor lesser demon of corn. Like, what's your name? My name is

787
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:04,920
Krant Price Eaton. Like, huh? Yeah. I fought the ogres and free bows and every time I got eaten.

788
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:10,680
And that's what they call me now. Oh, poor guy. Because the thing is, they're not smart enough

789
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:16,520
to invent the cannon, right? They're smart enough to know that if you put metal in it,

790
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:20,360
put gunpowder in it, and then light it, you've got a really big gun.

791
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:27,320
Which is why, like, you know, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,

792
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:33,560
and I can do that. Which is why like, part of why they join other cultures sometimes,

793
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:39,080
they're not smart enough to realize the the the subtleties of whatever culture,

794
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:43,960
they're joining all the different aspects of it, They are smart enough to appreciate some of the

795
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:49,560
the bits they like. Like, again, dwarf slayers, they get into big fights. Big fights mean big

796
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:54,680
food ogres now a dwarf slayer. This giant doesn't understand, is really good at making cutlets out

797
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:58,520
enemies so they're easier to eat. Amazing.

798
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:00,920
He doesn't understand the whole, like...

799
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:09,640
Forgecraft of the weapon or like the prestige. This cut good makes me smaller. Brilliant.

800
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:14,480
He doesn't understand dwarf craftsmanship or that a slayer is not a good thing to be.

801
01:23:14,480 --> 01:23:20,520
That's a death cult. But he sure knows wrestling trolls is fun and then you get to eat it when

802
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:27,400
you're done. So, dwarf slayer ogre. Wow, that's Galmaraz. That's a pretty cool hammer.

803
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:33,040
It's a bit too small to tenderize the meat. I don't think it's so great. Fair enough.

804
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:38,680
Yeah, except most people they might say that to are not going to correct them because it's

805
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:40,960
an ogre. Exactly.

806
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:47,960
So they're like on their own. They're not movers and shakers, but they will be hired

807
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:55,240
by people who are. And that's when the problems start. Because an ogre, again, like I said,

808
01:23:55,240 --> 01:24:00,280
sure, they're relative to, you know, like the skaven or humans. They're not the most

809
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:07,280
numerous, but they don't, you know, they don't reproduce as slow as, you know, skaven or

810
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:11,040
as like elves and dwarves. There's a decent amount of them. They like to travel. They

811
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:16,320
like to get paid. They do like to fight. Everything eventually comes back to eating, but they

812
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:21,840
like fighting. They like their trinkets. It's why I made that video that if you had to live

813
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:26,800
in Warhammer, you want to be an ogre. I remember that. I do have a question though.

814
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:32,320
Is there such a thing as like, how long do these guys live for? Is it the case of if

815
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:40,560
they keep eating, they keep surviving? I want to say they're roughly like human-ish

816
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:47,160
lifespan. Can be longer. I believe like they can get up to like 120 years of age, so a

817
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:55,000
little bit longer than a people. But they're fighting a lot. Most of them don't reach that

818
01:24:55,000 --> 01:25:05,280
age. They do get, they do absolutely age because like there was a, the guy, the one I'm already

819
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:10,880
forgetting his name, the shrewd shrewd, the guy who sold his kin to become rat ogres.

820
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:17,080
He is like old, hunched over. He's a grumpy old man who's also a monster, but you know,

821
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:23,200
ignore that. Like to the point, like his tribe actually does show up in Total Warhammer,

822
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:30,080
but he's old and hunchbacked and old. So he's got a henchman who does the diplomacy lines

823
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:39,520
and stuff, but it is his tribe, which is a nice little touch. So they're, you don't want

824
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:45,760
to fight them. That is the end of it. You do not want to fight them. For their little

825
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:54,600
bit of End Times lore, they didn't really, they did not do much. Greasys got into a fight

826
01:25:54,600 --> 01:26:02,600
with Grimgor Ironhide, which is- Doesn't sound like it went well. Suicide by orc. No, it

827
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:11,520
did not go well. Even for Greasys. He got his skull bashed in with his own club. Oh,

828
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:19,240
no. And then with that, he joined Grimgor's great waa where all of the orcs and goblins

829
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:25,560
in the world were a part of it. And then now most of the ogres are a part of it. And then

830
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:32,880
he went to go, and then he, there was a cafe before Grimgor went east and then he went

831
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:38,600
east and then there was not a cafe. And then Grimgor turned back around and went west and

832
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:44,560
then there was chaos dwarfs and then there weren't chaos dwarfs. He seems to be quite

833
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:50,960
powerful. I mean, even for an orc, it's like, hot damn. It's like, that's two empires gone.

834
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:58,160
Amazing. Grimgor only died in the End Times because Archeon had to cheat. You know how

835
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:05,240
Dracnian has a demon in it? Yeah. Archeon's sword has one too. And then Grimgor headbutted

836
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:11,280
him so hard he couldn't see the future anymore. So he had to let loose the demon to help him

837
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:17,960
kill Grimgor in the sword. Which also broke the sword. And in previous lore, prior to

838
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:24,600
the End Times, he actually just no holds barred, beat the piss out of Archeon. You don't fight

839
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:35,660
Grimgor. Good advice. Which yeah, Gris has learned the hard way. Some other stuff. Their

840
01:27:35,660 --> 01:27:41,240
End Times lore again is not terribly interesting. There was that stuff with good old Golg and

841
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:45,800
Karak eight peaks where he worked with the dwarfs, then he worked with the orcs, and

842
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:51,400
then he decided it's time to leave because this is getting too messy even for me. And

843
01:27:51,400 --> 01:28:02,080
yeah, all the mountains of Morn started erupting. The whole homeland, just lava everywhere. So

844
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:06,800
they started fleeing and that turned into a big old mass migration, which like I said,

845
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:11,160
then turned into Gris's being like, I'm in charge of all of you and he's bacon fat.

846
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:15,920
So they agreed and then Gris has got Grimgor and then that was kind of really the end of

847
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:21,320
anything notable happening with the ogres. I'm sure, you know, in like the final battle,

848
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:29,160
if you look around, there was bits in them peeking about doing whatever. And then in

849
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:34,800
Age of Sigmar, they're pretty much the same. They worship Gorka Morka now, rather than

850
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:39,760
the Great Maw, but they're still real hungry. They're still never really full. They go around

851
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:43,680
eating everything. They're still mercenaries because they know that the moral realm has

852
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:49,880
got a whole lot of people that need protection and will give them food in exchange for it.

853
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:56,480
The only real, I would say the only real standout, but the most interesting about them is that

854
01:28:56,480 --> 01:29:03,920
there's a group of ogres. They're called ogors now. O-G-O-R.

855
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:04,920
Ogors.

856
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:13,920
I sure tried with that one. But that's copyrightable, apparently. That was enough.

857
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,920
Oh, wow.

858
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:24,800
So stupid. But there's this cool little thing. There's a group of ogres called the Beast

859
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:30,880
Raiders who are cursed to have a winter, a horrible blizzard, permanently following them

860
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:38,200
around. It doesn't kill them, but it does freeze them in place because it's magic until

861
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:46,520
they can get heated up out of it. And there's some theories as to why that's following them.

862
01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:53,240
One of them being, pardon me, the first Frost King, which is kind of the groups that lead

863
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:58,200
tribes that gets the guy in charge, was tricked by Mork himself into eating the frozen heart

864
01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:03,400
of a god beast and he became the eye of this storm. So it's him following his kin around,

865
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:11,040
freezing them on accident. One of them is that the first beast claw raiders accidentally

866
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:17,360
unfroze some ice gods that Nagashin imprisoned. Another idea is that just Sigmar was pissed

867
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:23,440
at them for eating all of his people, so he conjured up this big old storm. Which is,

868
01:30:23,440 --> 01:30:27,480
it's cool. Like there's a lot of these differing myths that could explain, which one do you

869
01:30:27,480 --> 01:30:31,440
like the most? Could be it.

870
01:30:31,440 --> 01:30:36,000
By the way, I don't know too much about Age of Sigmar and other species other than humans

871
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:42,160
become stormcast.

872
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:48,720
There's never, I don't believe, been a confirmed, like this is an elf stormcast or dwarf stormcast.

873
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:53,400
But there's nothing stopping that.

874
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:58,900
Because all I'm saying is, GW, I've got a multi-million idea for you. Make a storm gut

875
01:30:58,900 --> 01:31:05,120
eternal. I want to see an ogre with his gut hanging out, the armor barely fitting. That

876
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:08,520
would be really fun. Silly miniature. That would be fun.

877
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:13,920
That would be great. But I will say, I believe it's in the Soulbound, which is the Age of

878
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:26,280
Sigmar roleplay game. Most, if not all, are human. So, very much implied stormcasts are

879
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:36,040
human. Most, if not all. If you want to get creative with your minis, could make a stormcast

880
01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:37,040
or ogre eternal.

881
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:43,100
I just like the idea that he's like, they're like, hey, I've got an offer for you. We can

882
01:31:43,100 --> 01:31:48,240
feed you. And even when you die, you can eat in the afterlife. And you can keep eating

883
01:31:48,240 --> 01:31:52,560
and eating. And then you don't have one lifetime to eat. You have several. He's like, that's

884
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:56,480
a pretty good deal. And that'd be all you have to do.

885
01:31:56,480 --> 01:32:04,880
That would probably be enough to convince them. Also, here's a very fun image I found,

886
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:08,800
which is, it's not an ogre stormcast, but someone made a Tao stormcast eternal.

887
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:10,360
What is that?

888
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:14,360
I don't know who got that inspiration, but it's kind of funny.

889
01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:18,760
That's crazy. He looks quite buff for a Tao, I've got to be honest.

890
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:24,360
Yeah, that is a, if the actual Tao had that, they'd probably be a bit more successful with

891
01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:30,800
their expansion. But that is, for the most part, the ogres and a little bit of the ogres

892
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:35,080
from Age of Sigmar. Because, like you said at the beginning, they're pretty one note.

893
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:38,040
There's not the most to them, but it's a really good note.

894
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:39,040
Yeah, I mean-

895
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:40,040
They're fun.

896
01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:43,360
Yeah, it's like, even things like the dwarves or the, the dwarves have a lot more, but like

897
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:49,200
the skaven, they're just pestilence. They're just there all the time being a problem. They

898
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:56,040
don't need, they just need to be annoying rat men who have no redeeming qualities. Or

899
01:32:56,040 --> 01:33:00,200
Nagash, he's just evil man with big pointy hat. That's fine. That's what we need sometimes

900
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:04,320
for factions. And I like the ogres are just like, oh, we're not malevolent, we're not

901
01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:10,600
mean-spirited. We just need to eat. And we'll eat anything that we have to, to survive.

902
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:14,960
And we like eating all sorts of stuff. We're not bad, we're not good. We're just right

903
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:21,640
in the gray area of, we'll be good or bad depending on how much beef you'll give me.

904
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:28,640
Yeah. And, and like I said, they're probably for Warhammer fantasy, the most like Kitbash

905
01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:34,160
homebrew friendly. Because if you just look up like ogre Warhammer fantasy Kitbash, you

906
01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:41,640
can find all sorts of different people fitting to their lore, where there's like just minis

907
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:45,520
of like ogres where they've got bits from other armies and just slapped them on top.

908
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:51,120
Like, you know, dark elves, orcs, dwarfs, high elves, anything. Because like I said,

909
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:55,520
if it is a faction in Warhammer, you can find an excuse for them to be fighting alongside

910
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:58,760
it. Yeah. Oh, this one's got like all this nature stuff on him because he made an alliance

911
01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:01,840
with the wood elves and they're just giving him deer all the time. We've got loads of

912
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:05,600
deer. We'll give you deer from the forest. If you protect our big tree, that's a special

913
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:10,600
tree. Cool. And now he's got like wood elf stuff on him. Like, yeah, you can do that

914
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:16,240
with your Kitbash. I've actually found an image of pretty much that exact thing. Oh,

915
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:20,200
wow. Yeah, there you go. Nice hair. Yeah. See, like if you want to get creative with

916
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:25,560
minis ogres are not a bad way to do it. They're admittedly, they're not in the old world.

917
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:32,600
I don't believe there is one ogre kit in the old world. And I highly recommend you do not

918
01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:39,000
buy that kit. Let's see if I can't find the pictures for it. It's part of the orcs and

919
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:46,800
goblins. Let's see. Where are you? Andy, I would like you to take a guess how much this

920
01:34:46,800 --> 01:35:00,160
old, bad metal kit costs. 100 pounds. 112 US dollars. Oh, that's so probably not far

921
01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:10,440
off from 100 pounds. Yeah. How old is that? I don't know. It looks quite old. Look at

922
01:35:10,440 --> 01:35:16,600
that image. And then I will really quickly go on over to the destruction side of things

923
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:23,560
for the ogres. And here's what the standard ogre looks like compared to those guys. Oh,

924
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:30,360
wow. That's a little bit better. Just a little bit. Wow. So if you'd like my recommendation,

925
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:35,440
find the base size for that ogre kit in the old world. And then just buy some age of sigma

926
01:35:35,440 --> 01:35:42,280
ogres. That miniature on the bottom left of the guy's head pocket. That's grim. Whoa.

927
01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:48,280
That's crazy. Oh, yeah. They don't have advanced medicine, but they sure can bolt metal to

928
01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:56,240
your face. So yeah, that kit is $60. It even gets you some noblars if you'd like. Just

929
01:35:56,240 --> 01:36:02,160
buy ogres from age of sigma and then put them on square bases. If you really want to run

930
01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:09,880
ogres in the old world, please. And I like the gut armor you mentioned before. It looks

931
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:14,320
quite good on them. I like how they have different styles as well. It's almost world eater-esque,

932
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:23,560
but rounder. Fatter. They are within their limited creativity. They do get a bit creative

933
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:29,600
with it. You can find an ogre who has pride in his craftsmanship. They're kind of like

934
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:36,600
the ultimate create your own tribe, create your own army faction, because pick a thing

935
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:43,400
and ogre's probably down with it. This is Spork the ogre. He has a vast array of spoons

936
01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:50,240
he collects. All the better to drink and eat with. He's got big old spoons because he loves

937
01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:58,000
his soup. And of course, nothing about the ogres would be fit if I didn't tell you to

938
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:03,800
go watch their Total War Hammer 3 trailer, because it's an eating and drinking song.

939
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:07,920
Yeah, it's good. That was one of the only things I saw when I first heard about the

940
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:13,640
game. And I was like, that's amazing. They're just having so much fun.

941
01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:20,360
It is a good time. And yeah, any other questions?

942
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:24,560
I can't think of anything. I just like the idea that, yeah, I suppose similar to the

943
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:29,080
orcs of all the factions, I assume they're having the most fun because their whole life

944
01:37:29,080 --> 01:37:34,400
is like, as long as I'm eating, I'm really I'm like, the happiest I can physically be.

945
01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:39,840
And that's great. And we love them for it. Yeah, it's like I said before, they're, they're

946
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:44,760
smart enough to enjoy some of the finer things in life. Stupid enough to not realize that

947
01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:52,920
they live in Warhammer and it sucks. Brilliant. I guess that's the ogres then, is it? I mean,

948
01:37:52,920 --> 01:38:02,200
I know we said at the beginning, just sometimes yetis exist. Yeti is an ogre. Yes, it's an

949
01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:11,600
ogre that's gone feral, grown fur and become a yeti. Wow. It's called a yeti. Why? Come

950
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:18,040
on. It's it's a yeti. Yeah, you could even be that might not be how to pronounce it.

951
01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:21,560
It could still be pronounced yeti. But you could have been like you could have used like

952
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:27,080
silent words that you could have been like, what's it like? G N E. It's like, Gnetti,

953
01:38:27,080 --> 01:38:36,200
but like you pronounce it yeti with a silent G. Yeah. Gnetti, you know. Oh, G W. So lazy.

954
01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:43,640
I, yeah. But I mean, yeah, there's like any other smaller things like there's, you know,

955
01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:47,640
as with, you know, other arm, like Space Marine chapters, there's no different ogre tribes

956
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:54,680
that specialize in different things. But for the most part, you find an ogre, you can pretty

957
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:59,680
reliably assume what they're going to like the most. What they like the most is food.

958
01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:03,400
Do not go to an ogre empty handed or you're going to be there. You're going to be there

959
01:39:03,400 --> 01:39:08,400
lunch or breakfast. No, you you will be the food. Oh, I guess one last thing I kind of

960
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:14,800
I did forget about a little bit. They get along with halflings real good. Halflings

961
01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:19,280
are real good cooks and they're I don't think it was ever confirmed, but there might be

962
01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:24,560
some little instinctive thing going on where like they know, like, hang on a minute, halflings

963
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:31,600
were us as prototypes. And for the halflings part, if they cook for an ogre, they have

964
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:36,520
an ogre protecting them from all the big scary avarlanders that want to hunt them. It's pretty

965
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:41,960
good deal. So halflings, a lot of the times they're one of the few things an ogre won't

966
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:45,960
just eat out of hand. They might still eat them if they piss them off. But for the most

967
01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:49,320
part, so it's like your little brother. You're not going to eat your little brother. Your

968
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:54,120
cousin. You're like, ah, cousin, what's on what's on the menu tonight? Don't worry about

969
01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:58,760
the wolves in this little camp we've made in this like eerie forest. I'll protect you.

970
01:39:58,760 --> 01:40:05,920
What we eating? OK, got any got any geese? No. OK, eats the halfling. OK, well, at least

971
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:11,440
they'll give you a chance. Yeah, you know, they try and they know the halflings love

972
01:40:11,440 --> 01:40:16,280
their feast, too. Halflings love to eat. Ogres love to eat. It's a match made in heaven.

973
01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:21,400
Yeah, you could theoretically have a carnivore ogre and a vegan halfling and they'd be able

974
01:40:21,400 --> 01:40:25,440
to like, I don't like meat. Well, I don't like vegetables. Hey, we can work together.

975
01:40:25,440 --> 01:40:31,520
We can we can come to an arrangement. It works. Yeah. The halfling cooks all the meat and

976
01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:37,480
the ogre brings some vegetables for himself and they both bring a lot of good deal. Yeah,

977
01:40:37,480 --> 01:40:46,680
that's it. It's a good time by all. And I think that should be the basics of the ogres.

978
01:40:46,680 --> 01:40:53,320
Eat, eat, more eat. To be I mean, I know we said, oh, this would probably be a short one,

979
01:40:53,320 --> 01:40:57,160
but actually we're all we're like an hour and a half plus. Yeah, I was actually surprised

980
01:40:57,160 --> 01:41:03,160
how long that went. Done quite well, really. You saw it here. The most comprehensive ogre

981
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:08,200
video on Warhammer Fantasy on Eversi because unfortunately, I assume they have no books.

982
01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:22,000
Indeed. So I. I didn't look, I will admit. I made an assumption. That I don't think they

983
01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:26,920
have any books. Oh, that's a shame. They have an army book. Well, there's so much potential

984
01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:32,360
for silly stories. Like if the orcs can get away with it, surely the ogres can too. That's

985
01:41:32,360 --> 01:41:39,240
a shame. Yeah. Oh, this is. Is this this is the Italian version. This looks more like

986
01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:47,880
German. I don't know. Well, I. Their official name of the army is the Ogre Kingdoms. This

987
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:54,760
is a very fun way to say Ogre Kingdoms. Die Ogre Konigreich. That's got to be German.

988
01:41:54,760 --> 01:42:00,920
That has to be listed wrong on Amazon. That is not Italian. It's got to be German. The

989
01:42:00,920 --> 01:42:11,920
Ogre Konigreich. Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. They. Yeah. Like it's simple. And now my quick browsing,

990
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:20,000
I do not see any ogre books other than their army book. Well, when they do an army, hopefully

991
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:24,480
they'll do a book one day. But we both know that now that if they do that, they have to

992
01:42:24,480 --> 01:42:30,440
commit to calling it the survival of the feasters. And that's what they should call it. Yeah.

993
01:42:30,440 --> 01:42:35,800
But either way, that was good fun. It's nice to have like a light hearted faction that aren't

994
01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:40,640
necessarily good guys, but they're definitely not like they're not intentionally bad. They

995
01:42:40,640 --> 01:42:45,600
just don't know any better. We don't eat. We don't. We don't eat people out of spite.

996
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:52,560
They just taste nice. Oh, you guys, you goofy guys. But that was really good fun. I like

997
01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:57,360
the ogres. I enjoyed the video you did on like they're the best faction to live as in

998
01:42:57,360 --> 01:43:01,480
Warhammer Fancy because they're just having a great time. Check out this video. Yeah,

999
01:43:01,480 --> 01:43:15,800
pretty much. Any closing thoughts? Please make them not be unfun to play in Warhammer

1000
01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:22,920
Total War. Oh, they're not very good to play as their their roster is fun to use. But one

1001
01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:29,840
of their mechanics is those mercenary contracts, right? Except the problem is, if you follow

1002
01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:36,640
those mechanics, it makes you randomly go out of your way to it to attack people. And

1003
01:43:36,640 --> 01:43:44,000
because this is a strategy game, that's just declaring war on someone else for like 50

1004
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:50,640
bucks. And also their camps can't move once you put them down. So once you leave an area

1005
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:55,280
and you're done conquering it, you've now just got a camp sitting there that you can't

1006
01:43:55,280 --> 01:44:04,020
really do anything with. So is could be better. Again, I haven't played ogres in a long time.

1007
01:44:04,020 --> 01:44:11,160
Maybe they fixed them. But I was not a big fan of their play style. But their lore and

1008
01:44:11,160 --> 01:44:18,320
their in battlefield mechanics, very fun. So surely, I would have thought the best mechanic

1009
01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:21,320
would be like, you want them to attack the biggest possible army because there's the

1010
01:44:21,320 --> 01:44:25,880
most possible food. That should be how they do it. Like you get into that. It was like

1011
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:30,480
the bigger you are kind of because the more enemies you fight, the more meat you get after

1012
01:44:30,480 --> 01:44:34,160
the battle. So I just feel like there'd be like good modifiers is like, hey, if there's

1013
01:44:34,160 --> 01:44:40,320
like fewer of you and you kill more of them, maybe that's the way you get like, like quicker

1014
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:44,440
upgrades because you're being a bit more like ballsy, a bit more gluttonous. You're like,

1015
01:44:44,440 --> 01:44:48,200
there's a big target. I'm drawn to the biggest target because they've got more more meat

1016
01:44:48,200 --> 01:44:56,800
on their bones. Maybe you kind of can like you can spend meat to buff your army. So there

1017
01:44:56,800 --> 01:44:59,640
is kind of like that. And the bigger army you fight, the more meat you get from the

1018
01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:07,600
end of the battle. But some of the mechanics away from that are not the most fun. But they're

1019
01:45:07,600 --> 01:45:13,200
not horrible. And in the battlefield, they're fun because they're ogres. Your basic infantry

1020
01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:19,760
is probably going to tear through most other things. Yeah. Oh, well, well, that was that

1021
01:45:19,760 --> 01:45:25,440
was good fun. So that's been our discussion on the ogres of Warhammer Fantasy. For all

1022
01:45:25,440 --> 01:45:30,280
of you listening or watching at home, please feel free to let us know what factions you

1023
01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:34,360
would like us to talk about next, because this was a very this was, I think, the most

1024
01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:38,720
popular one. There were so many comments like, dude, the funny ogres, they're funny, they're

1025
01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:43,440
they're they're goofy goobers who like to eat. So we've done that. And we thought we

1026
01:45:43,440 --> 01:45:46,520
were only going to get like less than an hour worth of that. And we've done quite well,

1027
01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:52,120
I think. We've done an hour past what I predicted. Yeah. So yeah, let us know in the comments

1028
01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:56,960
what you'd like to see next. And until then, we'll catch you on the next one. Thanks, everyone.

1029
01:45:56,960 --> 01:46:18,320
Bye. Take care, everyone. Have a good one.