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Hello everyone! It's... Oh hello!

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Yeah, I've pressed all the buttons. Brilliant. It's LoreCrimes! Hello everyone!

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Evening brothers and sisters.

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We hope you enjoyed.

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God damn it. Thank you, Hal.

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Brilliant. Well, we hope you enjoyed.

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Earlier today there was a release of us taking over Astarte's Anonymous,

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and you get us again, twice in one day.

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Aren't you lucky?

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Three times a week is what that means.

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If people want to go check that out, by the way.

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We reviewed... Terrible? Well, not so terrible.

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We reviewed some slightly...

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Beamed, ugly, Warhammer models, so that was a good time.

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I don't know what that currency is, but we have a donation by Michael Sarkozy.

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Karuna?

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This unworthy slave lower than even the dirt beneath the crypt thrall's feet,

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swears on the royal hekker of the Pelikar dynasty. I am terrible.

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Pyrrholek?

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No, Pylorak.

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Pelikar dynasty, that the worshiper of the discarded tool of the old ones will be free

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of his corruption, also meneth is a real homie.

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Thank you so much, brother. We appreciate it.

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Thank you.

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Another lie. I feel like I had an aneurysm halfway through that. I apologize.

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Ruti Moksut, he says,

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Is there a spell to make Colin's bed?

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Yes, he casts...

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Leave me alone.

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It's me. You can see it. The pillow's sticking out. It's fine.

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He casts poor work schedule.

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Not work ethic, schedule.

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That's not a spell. That's a passive.

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That's just always running.

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It's a passive diva. Welcome, everyone, to another Lorecrime State of Magic.

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Really quickly, I'll just go through everything that happened before we started.

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Thanks, Michael Sarkozy. Hope I said that right. There's the tilde.

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Thank you. Welcome to Lore Criminal.

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Luis1945, DGB's called Colleen a Warp Spawn. Yeah, it is what it is. Also, thank you for

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calling me Colleen. And Bloody Shirt Music with the Two Lorecrime Gifts membership. Thank you.

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DGB also says, Hal, your paid actor is doing quite well. Ball.

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Damn, man. Damn.

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Also, we apologize. We don't have Eli today. He's busy being a married man with commitments.

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But it's fine. But what are we talking about today, Hal? What's going on?

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Magic. Brothers and sisters. If anyone is new, Warhammer will kind of just dip slightly into

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Warhammer. This is Warhammer 40k and fantasy. We're gonna go into explaining magic. And it's

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kind of convoluted and a little bit confusing. Warhammer, because it's does it even really have

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magic? Or is it just do people believe hard enough? But before we get into some magic,

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we do have the previous question of the week, which is a little bit of a while ago.

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Andy's do that. So a donation by Incline Backup. Thank you, brother. Again, he says,

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we also talk about fancy slash AOS magic and this magic of our round lord of course.

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We will talk about Warhammer fantasy magic as well because obviously both Warhammer

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universes are kind of linked. But there's a little there's a few differences. But we'll

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be getting all into that. Andy, what was the previous question of the week?

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Okay, so last time the hashtag was hashtag reason. So what was your reason for launching

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a crusade basically, and I picked out three. So the first one is from the rude Canadian 8068 saying

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hashtag reason, because the age of strife isn't going to end itself, which is a fair point.

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We also had one from Akuma King one who said hashtag reason, I would tell humanity that all

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of humanity has to be united in order to supply everyone with either elf waifus or husband of

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elves. That's one heck of a reason to launch a crusade.

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God, I feel like 10 plus itching already. The itching. Oh, man.

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We also got a donation by the way from Donkeyman USA saying can't find any Skaven Stormfiends.

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How else can I make my redemptive dread rats? I don't know. We do need to set up a discord so

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we can have people show their conversions. There are the new rat ogres regular and those could

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probably do those are those models are real good. Ciao to us channel eons of battle who had the

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idea of making fake fur on like his rat ogre conversion. And it actually looks like really damn

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like impressive. Another donation by resident best name ever. Kabandas mighty schlong of sickness.

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The last question of the week on so we had last week was from Kishen 021. So hashtag reason.

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Obviously the only good reason to unify terror and conquer the stars is that GW used up all of

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terror's crude oil and now need more in order to feed the whole Warhammer communities plastic

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addiction. Amen to that. Does someone say oil I can hear the Eagles immediately. We are on our way

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already. Oh, say I do love like, I just love I do, like indulge and love the American meme of just

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like immediate like overlapping blaring Eagle sounds with people been like waving flags and stuff

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like that. Fuck is a kilometer. I am an enjoyer of that meme. We do have another question of the

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week for this week brothers spit on point. It's if you could cast or you can make any new spell,

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what would it do? And what would the effects be? Obviously, make it funny if you can, because

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you can go anywhere with this one. I think I said earlier before we started,

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I would cast a spell to essentially fix all of the Star Wars Disney properties because

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it hurts too much. Honestly, it just I can't take it anymore. I don't know if Andy and

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I'm gonna beat you to death. That's not a spell he's casting.

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Are you going to talk about the garbage magic of DS to know but I might talk about the best magic

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system and any from soft game from Dark Souls to it's not it's not it is hearing white noise.

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I don't know what's going on. It's hard to understand. Yeah, no, Andy first.

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I did see is watching you and after playing it the other day and said like,

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Hey, Dark Souls two, it's spreading. It's spreading. It's not it's old, man. It's old.

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Yeah. So Dark Souls one, which plays infinite worse. I know it doesn't. Okay, I can't I'm not

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gonna I'm rolling. Okay, chat. Don't let him get away with saying Dark Souls one is that like,

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they can't even say a negative thing about Dark Souls one, but people immediately trying to find

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your IP address. You can bet of chaos. You're old how thank you. Thank you.

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I had to highlight I'm not even 30 yet, brother. Like I'm chill is relaxed. So good. I'm

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youngins. Yeah, no, same before if I had a spell I could cast it would be a spell to cure all the

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smoke alarms in existence from making that little noise in the background to save us all from people

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recording videos without realizing they need to change the battery. I would I would. But yeah,

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so hashtag cost. I wouldn't take a I would borrow a spell from a from a game. Thank you,

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Luden McShooley. I'm not old. I'm 25. Only Eli is younger than me. Thank you. I would borrow a spell

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from the tabletop RPG fatal, which if you don't know what it is, that means nothing. If you do

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know what it is, you're recoiling in fear. Because that is an abomination. But the spell I would borrow

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is known simply perpetual orgasm. You can probably guess what it does. You wouldn't get anything done.

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was just there going pressing it again and again and again until it died. Yes, pretty much that.

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are the hashtag is hashtag costs for people listening. The one I can think of just like

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slightly mess with people would be you cast a spell and it has a zero this certain objects like

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if someone touches it, they have a 0.5% chance of immediate death. So, you know, I mean, like you

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could theoretically like still go about your day and like if you really need to use it, but like

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there's a slight slight chance immediately like like wordlessly fall down and die. We have two

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donations here by danger. That is a that's a great neighbor. Thank you. I can catch you fellas live.

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Yes, I am very old. So I saw myself in the mirror earlier and I saw how many gray hairs I have in

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my beard and my it's over. It's over. That was hashtag cast and we're going to get straight into

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today's topic which is explaining magic slash the magic system of the Warhammer verse and to start

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with there will be someone with fantasy though. I saw it. What is he said? Oh, so there was some

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background gameplay of me playing dark side and I'm terrible at it. So please be generous.

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Unfortunate. I did play cycle though. Hell yeah. Was it was it was a donation.

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Strachanian cube with the two. Thank you. Marathi causes Colin to cast ceaseless discharge.

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What are they thinking when they name that boss?

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Oh wow. So today we start with the one with 40k magic or woman general magic system and it starts

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with the narrative. So how does magic affect the narrative of Warhammer is boiled down really simply

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to chaos. Basically, I think most of us do have heard of chaos but for the uninitiated chaos itself

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is a pantheon of four quote unquote gods. They kind of coalesce coalescences of ideas and things

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mashed into together and they have basically the only objective is to really ruin humanity and

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mostly they've already glut glut 3000 the Eldar into an almost nothing race unfortunately and

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chaos itself mostly is the antagonist for all of Warhammer. It's the perverse like very much

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sim like sort of close to like biblical terms of like you know it's the devil it's the corruptor

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it's the entire thing that basically everyone was so like every other race or faction like necrons

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maybe possibly a little bit but Eldar and humans they come so close to achieving like a golden age

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of perfection and then chaos comes in off the the top rope and kits them with you know an RKO basically

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so it mostly affects it in that way. We have a donation I think was it no one by Joseph Pollard

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thank you brother he says I knew you were degenerate Colin but why would you mention Fatal

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the game only hardcore incels play damn. It's uh because I don't know shock valve because the five

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people who know what that game is would recoil in fear and that's what I was going for.

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Truly. Yeah so essentially in the narrative magic often acts as like a thing of um particularly in

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some stories again it's just the arch antagonist in most ways it's the thing that either turns

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people into evil or assists them in their evil. It's a very broad stroke but that's essentially

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the role of what magic plays particularly in fancy as well as we mentioned a horrible name called the

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End Times in which essentially the magic itself was either trying to save the world and then it

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also kind of blew up the world so pain. Next one is the combat of magic in Warhammer now this one's

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a fun one but it's a little bit different in different verses so Colin will explain it in

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fancy but in the 40k slash 30k setting a lot of um it's called psychic magic a lot of that is very

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much sort of similar I will talk about later but like the force in a way where it's a lot of it's

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like mental particularly like if people like see the example of on screen here where they're playing

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like the psycho role in the game Darktide a lot of it is you can do like brain bursting particularly

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a lot of it is invasions of the mind particularly when they have like combat psyches which are humans

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they very much focus just on the mental stuff and then when it gets to more powerful things

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such as like a starties or demons all that stuff they slightly move into more traditional forms

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of magic whereas like so it's like our examples like Thousand Suns where is like basically the

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magic legion there'll be one of the antagonists in the game Space Marine 2 and they can cast

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slightly more traditional spells but in a way in which particularly in Warhammer like someone's

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brain like their mental strength is very much linked to how much they can unleash in their

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combat magic again I don't touch too much on traditional magic because it's very much a fancy

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thing so Colin if Colin wants to explain here like this Warhammer fancy version of magic combat

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slash magic itself I would be happy to I've even just for some quick I remembered I had this the

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fourth edition Warhammer fantasy roleplay book you can play as a wizard and there's some cool stuff

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in there so on top of you know I did have got some stuff laid out in front of me but I figured I

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remember to have this and I'm hoping this has a miscast table in it because I know at least from

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the older editions of Warhammer fantasy roleplay when magic goes wrong it's fun so we'll talk about

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magic and hopefully talk about what happens when it goes very badly Warhammer 10th did get rid of

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the psychic phase in the actual table top thing was letting people know so there's like magic is

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now a shooting thing as of the time maybe 11th might be different we don't know will you be

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taking us away hell or shall I start on how do you can go for it go for it just on all fantasy

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magic so Warhammer just a quick overview before we talk about someone you know we mentioned some

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rats earlier but uh we'll talk about them just as a quick general guideline for how it works

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it starts all magic comes from with there are some exceptions but it comes from the realm of chaos

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there are it starts as dar dark magic and then splits into the eight different winds which is

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akshi the red wind lore of fire zeer the blue wind lore of heavens camon the yellow wind the

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lore of metal balthasar gelt my beloved gurr the brown wind the lore of beasts gyren the green

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wind the lore of life haish the white wind the lore of light shyish the purple wind the lore of

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death such as the power of the gash and the olgu the gray wind the lore of shadow uh for

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I think that's the that's the olesia and vermentide actually uses the lore of shadow if I remember

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correctly it's uh as all things warhammer quite dangerous uh when things go wrong they go very

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wrong uh but those are the main eight winds uh dark elves and some evil factions like vampires

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can use just pure dark magic lizardmen high elves and wood elves can use high magic which is you take

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all those different eight winds knit it back together into magic in its purest form uh with

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the corruption removed so you don't inherently endanger yourself more so than anything else when

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you're using magic uh and then there's some other magic uh most noticeable uh most fun most

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noticeably for me anyways rat magic skaven magic yes it's so beautiful everyone in the chat is like

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when's rats when's rats rats rats rats rats are here the fun thing about skaven magic is that part

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of it at least it's kind of actually like paladins which i know you do not think of a paladin when

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you think of a skaven but like because it comes directly from the great horned rat uh in a lot of

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cases they have they uh they've got their own spell lures they've got the lore of ruin which is

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what the you know most the greysiers use there's also the lore of plague for clan eshin uh there's

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the lore of i'm forgetting the name rat the the lore of stealth there we go it's the that's yeah

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it's pretty easy uh it's just what the clan eshin sorcerers use and then there's the lore of the

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warp which is i believe an older one uh so not as much talked about but it does it's another greysier

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thing it's uh magic is very dangerous in the best of times in warhammer fantasy uh it carries much

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like 40k the the the constant little you know overhanging threat of am i going to cast fireball

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or am i going to cast portal to corin's realm on accident i just realized you know the thing i said

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at the beginning where like you can't the my spell would be 0.5 chance you die that's literally what

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music warp magic essentially is yeah that's warhammer magic although skaven magic is more

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like a 10 chance because they just don't care and they also enhance it with warpstone which is

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solidified chaos basically it's a drug it's food it's an energy source warpstone is whatever it

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needs to be at a given moment as long as it's malicious that's that's it a common theme will

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be coming up on is it's what the plot demands it so that's essentially what's going to happen a lot

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here which usually it's at least funny so i don't mind it that much uh let's see um there uh

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skaven magic in particular this is somewhat you know a constant for all things uh but especially

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for skaven because they do not know the meaning of subtlety or holding back even the you know the

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longest trained elf the most powerful of slan except maybe lord croak he can't do any wrong

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but everyone else you cast it it's coming from the realm of chaos all magic one way or another

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so sometimes things go bad uh especially if you're in a region where the winds of magic

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because magic also just blows as a wind across warhammer fantasy if the winds are blowing strong

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your fireball is going to be real damn big but in the best case scenario it might be too big and

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what was meant to just be like i'm gonna light a torch real quick is oh i lit the building on fire

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and it's made out of stone so it was real bad uh not something you want to mess around with there's

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a reason that witch hunters and fantasy still hunt the witches uh it's because the witches tend

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to make things blow up if they don't know what they're doing if they're untrained and even

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trained people are in for a bad time oh lovely i found the miscast table i was looking for

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uh skaven because they you know snort warpstone you you don't want to be in front of whatever

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they're casting uh as i always mention actually we mentioned it last time we did uh one of the

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episodes on them thank will wrestled one of the most powerful human mages on the planet

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and the other guy was like i'm not gonna win this i'm not till like you know so gotric felix

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evernell started helping because skaven magic is horrifying magic is all horrifying skaven magic

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like i said just ups the ante a little bit it's a car with no brakes yeah they they except yeah

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they cut the brakes on purpose because they don't care for who's in the car and it smells of cheese

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cheese quite probably worse than that very moldy cheese uh it's

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it's also dangerous for those uh behind the skaven wizard casting because usually it goes wrong

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some miscasts like uh for example i found the official like just a tabletop war game uh

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what uh miscast table because there's an expanded one for the role playing game but

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it's still there in the base game uh for example there's the miscast result calamitous detonation

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which is uh you put a you put a temp a small round template over the wizard everyone the

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template is touching suffers a strength 10 hit uh including the wizard and that's gave it as well

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so that's like more than double there yeah this this is keep in mind like this happens to everyone

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it's just again i think the skaven can actually get penalties if they take warpstone uh in old

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world or at least they didn't warhammer fantasy battles uh having not played og warhammer fantasy

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battles i don't know the specifics of their casting there uh but in lore they're definitely

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doing that kind of stuff there's also a dimensional cascade which is uh it's the same thing as before

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only with the bigger template and you roll a d6 and if you roll a three or lower the wizard is

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quote cast into the realm of chaos remove them as a casualty

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my god dangerous it's of course incredibly useful like you've got a lore of life wizard nearby

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right you're not dying they're gonna keep you going uh i must say though it's like looking at

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magic in all settings i do like how warhammer has a cost because you get some sort like even like lord

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of the rings it's like gandalf's a wizard and he's really strong he's like are there any drawbacks

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nah he's just really overpowered whereas like i like how in warhammer both fantasy and 40k it's

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like it's really powerful but you might lose your soul you might be eaten by demons you might kill

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everyone you love just saying it's good but it has drawbacks and that's high high consequences for

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poor magic use there's uh it's the same with rituals too like rituals usually like you know

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you get all the incense get everything you need a little bit safer than on the fly like oh i'm

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getting attacked i gotta i gotta cast you know spirit leech or something from the lore of death

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there's a lore of death it's great uh they usually a bit safer they can still go very wrong for

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example uh once again our beloved thanquel uh was doing a ritual to summon a vermin lord you know

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the skaven greater demon he summoned a greater demon unfortunately it was scarbrand yeah which

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can we shout out to the uh the new skaven um model as of current time recording there's a new like

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skaven demon prince esque slash uh vermin lord model and that thing is gonna be my mortarian

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for death card that will be my mortarian if i can get the wings for it uh luten mcshooty uh thanks

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for the five bucks brother he says when is the slop tier list and why is there only two tiers

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mirathy and thankful these people know us really well it's almost frightening yeah i have a would

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you care for me to read some of these lovely miscasts because there's a minor and major

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miscast table yes please go for it yeah the minor one i think my favorite one is soured milk

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all milk within one d hundred yards goes sour instantly that's it uh soul quake which sounds

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horrible but you just you just fall over you just trip soul wax which is your ears clog

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instantly with a thick wax which is not removed until someone else cleans them for you

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for you okay with a heel skill uh you also become death

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yes i was gonna say otherwise that's actually that's that's actually could be quite profitable

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but have you ever seen those youtube videos of like the guys who just like clear ears out they're

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like ear specialists and like people watch them they get like millions of views you could like

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pass that again and again and just like clear it out and then people were like this is amusing

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hmm i don't get it but it's a thing mr mehlos has said in the chat how would proxy mortarians

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model fat as hell i've heard no listen if you take that new vermin lord and you put mortarians

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wings on the back of that thing are you telling me that's not the greatest thing that's been made

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that would be cool but i'm not using that for mortari and i'm using that for a flying vermin lord

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i want to use age of sigma models in 40k because we're getting koti as at the moment and they're

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getting vermin so let's be honest who's winning yeah uh double trouble which is the effect of

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the spell you cast goes through and also occurs somewhere else within 1d 10 miles so i hope that

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wasn't a violent spell otherwise some poor peasant's house is about to get obliterated

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pain those were all the minor ones the major one levitation you fly except uh when the spell ends

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you don't gently come to the ground you are floating and then you are falling

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uh there's some hellish stench you smell bad this is a major this is a major miscast that's interesting

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it you gain the distracting trait all right well i would have to check that out but apparently

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you smell so bad spell called again hellish stench this is these are all miscasts i've been reading

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none of these are all of these are all of these are what happens when a spell goes wrong

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wrong i'm sure there's a george awlwell quote where it's like no matter how good a person is

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always just like someone who smells it's like doesn't matter if you're really good like

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oh now i'm just thinking of the magic the gathering picture it's the is the rows of

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seats and then one seat's got to stay in there oh no i'll read two more misfires real quick uh

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uh regurgitation we got a donation from joseph oh sorry oh oh i was gonna say we got a joseph

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pollard donation do not drink the milk at the slanash chaos camp it's not milk don't drink it

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uh second to last miss major miscast levator no uh regurgitation you spew uncontrollably throwing

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up far more foul-smelling vomit than your body can possibly contain which lasts for 1d10 rounds

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you can spend 10 rounds of combat vomiting wow and then from the other end intestinal rebellion

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your novels move uncontrollably and you soil yourself getting the fatigue condition which

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cannot be removed until you change your clothes and clean yourself up intestinal rebellion

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valetariat jeez i'm so glad i remembered i have this

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that is very very cool uh is that for warhammer fantasy com or magic those those were all the

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yeah the miscast there's there's the spells and you'll notice like uh if you play uh what is it

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total war there's it doesn't seem like each spell lore is too big if you just go on like the war

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hammer wiki or something or if you have you know one of the fantasy role play books uh if they have

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rules for magic there's a lot of lures in each spell like the lore of metal alone has like 60

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uh some of which are useful some of which maybe not so useful some of which are great for causing

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an economic downturn um it's not all combat it's just you know we're this warhammer we're here for

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the combat so most of what we see is combat related you can use magic in the setting for a

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lot of things it's just if you're casually using magic you're kind of inviting trouble if you

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aren't either like a very powerful character you know much like gelt or someone else in the colleges

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of magic or an elf who lives folkshly forever so you have time to practice same thing for the slan

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it's it's it's useful and there's a reason uh ever since tecla set up the colleges of magic

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battle wizards are part of the imperial army it's just a mainstay there's also a reason they still

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hunt the witch because the witch can accidentally decide nurgle is invading your town when they try

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and light their candles with a you know little snap of the fingers there's many candles yeah

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yeah there's a maybe in the future we could talk each you know go through each lore but for now

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that's that's kind of warhammer fantasy magic it's got each its own you know unique flavor

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uh the races all have their own things that can oftentimes come directly from their god rather than

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the traditional widows and much like i'm sure we'll get to at 40k probably not worth it to be a

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wizard the convenience of being able to float is not worth the voices you're going to have in your

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head more often than not yeah and the socializer must be a pain as a if you play like so just on a

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screen for the uh audio listeners there's some gameplay of dark eye which i got earlier when you

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actually play the um psycho role on that you actually hear like whispers and voices and stuff

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like that just because when you're playing it because the warp is telling you to invert your

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anus and submit to nobel basically he's just one uh i guess one quick thing for a passive back over

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to you it's uh there's no there's nothing quite like blanks like you know in psykers when they're

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around a blank they're in actual physical and mental pain there are things that dampen magic

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in fantasy uh like if there's enough dwarfs around it you just can't cast a spell uh like

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their presence is kind of like blanks obsidian also dampens blanks which i did not know until

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relatively recently or that dampens magic uh it's like a dulling field which is why there's even a

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test amongst like the best imperial wizards become the next chief of the colleges of magic

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it's in the obsidian hall because if you're running for that position you're probably a very

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powerful wizard and it would be best to keep that contained because it's not the idea that they

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they prank each other it's like oh i got you got your nice necklace and like oh thank you and they

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put it on my way makes me feel sick is there any obsidian in here is that no nope mathy ford uh

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do for two bucks says can you learn more than one law uh oh that's actually a good point you

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you can that was actually really theoretically you can it's just uh like uh max in uh the end

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times the wizard from gatchigan phoenix he just started throwing out lures left right and center

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because magic was going wild by that point in normal case he was also very competent so we

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could handle it most wizards you can in theory practice different lures the problem is

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like elves were specifically designed slan were specifically designed by the old ones

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to handle magic in its entirety she believes your uh your your boy bathas are gelt he did a second

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law didn't he he well necromancy is weird he did do that necromancy is all it's like corrupted dark

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and magic in the gash they call it intent i think in games you know i'm a total war

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i think it's just lore of vamp is it was a lord death no lore of death is like just the lore of

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death the wind of death i think it's like lore of vampires lore of nagash is kind of its own thing

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because he's in a gash so he has the best versions naturally um it's you can do different lures it's

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just the thing about the lures of magic there'll be one oftentimes a human wizard is drawn to

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anyone in particular it's just most prevalent for humans humans not being designed like the

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elves and slan can't really like mentally and spiritually handle more than one lore

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which is why teckless's whole thing was you he was like he wasn't being rude he's like you you

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physically cannot handle more than one lore you don't live long enough your souls were not designed

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for it learn one lore and that human can get very good at that one lore about the sargelt again

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probably knows the lore of metal better than any elf you do not step out of that lore because all

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like the incantations all the preparations you need for one lore different from another lore

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so if you do mix and match you're really playing with fire you know it's like it's like um humans

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learn to drive automatic cars and elves can drive a manual so if you chuck a human into a manual

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like they could theoretically do it but like it's really difficult and it doesn't really work

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not the best analogy maybe it's like you could be like lots of types of doctors you could be

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a nice specialist you could be a digestion specialist or a limb specialist a bone surgeon

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blah blah but like you try to do everything yeah but if you want to specialize that's where the

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money is that's where the prestige is that's where the innovation is as well i suppose

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so i don't want to be donation back up for none donation right in kind back up thank you brother

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says uh in aos anti-magic causes stuff to stop existing because at all all matters just materialize

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magic it's kind of spooky yeah anti-magic something in a yeah the realms are just coalesce magic so

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if you have a powerful enough like anti-magic rock djb says i'm surprised howl knows what the car is

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thought they still use horses and carriage where he is i've never been in now look here now look

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here listen here son okay um that was one of the taser for warhammer fancy magic uh there is a

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sight thing that links uh fancy and 40k and 30k together which is how magic affects fate it's kind

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of weird how um in warhammer fancy and 40k uh magic is somewhat through that the acts of like chaos or

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prediction or in a way like chaos itself is timeless because where they exist i will go into

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the warp in a very short bit but um the source of where magic is in warhammer very much does not

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follow time in the way in which the old world or aos or really 40k does so it kind of can interject

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in the future past and present it's kind of strange in that way fate is one of these awkward things

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in storytelling i don't often like it when they do too much of like oh and then they like time travel

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thing there are certain i'm sure pretty sure in warhammer fancy there are like some some small time

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travel plots and then in 40k there's quite a few of them unfortunately um but fate generally like

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it's difficult because particularly when it's filtered through the idea of chaos which is the

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antagonist for mankind and all of creation really they can see fate a lot of demons such as

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particularly ones who are uh favored of zinch which is the changer of ways mr you know blue

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guys birds thousand sons from space ring two if you're new but those they're corrupted by that

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kind of chaos god they can see fate um but fate is never quite written in stone it's very mally but

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essentially in warhammer fate is essentially often used as like a oh like you know a storytelling

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thing sometimes it happens sometimes this doesn't again it's very it's a bit it's very wildly like

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it's very loosely used you can see a fate not the fate a potential fate yeah that's a very good

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as a good idea for it um i hope i get a way of illustrating it the next part is travel in uh it's

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not particularly in fantasy there are the ideas of magic portals particularly play um total war

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hammer they do use like the chaos portal magic system which is not that popular you would have

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to not play immortal empires to use that and no one wants to do that yeah um it's essentially

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almost like i do have like a wormhole so kind of a slight bit of science it's obviously a trope

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taken from other places as well you can basically travel over incredibly long or you know distances

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and then appear somewhere within a short amount of time or even in the weird case particularly

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warhammer 40k or 30k uh the warp itself which i will go to in a second but travel with magic

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is kind of messed up because you can either be attacked by creatures demons or other things

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during your travel it's trying to get into your ships it's trying to break your mind essentially

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like traveling in warhammer is always dangerous sometimes ships also due to how time doesn't really

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affect the source of magic which is like the chaos realm um it very much you could you could appear

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somewhere way earlier like on schedule say if you're traveling somewhere it's like oh it's two weeks

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and you know the warp or two weeks of you know magic travel it could take a week or it could take

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uh a thousand years you could just get unlucky um particularly the imperium itself in warhammer 40k

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they often have like they've worked out certain areas which are like much more stable like quote

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unquote lanes of travel but yeah magic is often used to travel itself and i will specify it's not

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necessary that the magic in 40k is used to travel rather they travel through a massive ocean of it

394
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uh there is some magic involved which is the people who are operating like equipment and machinery but

395
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:43,040
it's very much like they're just dipping into like a like an ocean that's somewhere else um but the

396
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next section is wasn't there an iron hand from like 40k then it ended up in 30k like pharaoh saw his

397
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:56,880
dead corpse and he was like what the hell did my kids turn into yeah there's a there's a short story

398
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:05,040
where the iron hands come across a old like a 40k ship in their time and they're like this is like a

399
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,600
distant future they think it's like not that far in the future but obviously it's like 10,000 years

400
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:14,160
in the future iron hand they're like oh wow he's really augmented kind of scares them because

401
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:19,520
they're like we're not meant to be that to generate like this is disgusting uh little does he know

402
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:28,160
you can't stop that one yeah you won't get ahead of that uh you know um the next part is uh sources

403
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:34,960
of power so this is true for warhammer fantasy and 40k it is the warp um but in warhammer 40k

404
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,640
fantasy i don't know if they really call it the war they call it the realm of chaos but it's

405
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:47,280
essentially the same thing the warp itself is uh an amalgam ocean of thoughts ideas is a mirror

406
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:53,920
dimension that mirrors our own material verse but not in the sense like it's an exact copy rather

407
00:41:53,920 --> 00:42:00,080
it just essentially if it's in the fourth dimension our universe aligns like sort of here on the left

408
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:06,480
and then it's on the right it's like very much pretty close to getting through and what exists

409
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:14,400
in this warp slash realm of chaos is creatures of thought and nightmare every good thought bad

410
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:22,160
thought every hidden idea concept they are ripples in this ocean it described as an ocean

411
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:30,000
it can have planets it can have random places which are like just land it doesn't it makes no

412
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:36,000
sense doesn't the laws of phoenix don't apply to it in the same way it's also where the chaos gods

413
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:42,640
reside in both fantasy and 40k and they essentially call it home their realms are twisted into their

414
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:49,360
own sort of unique ideas and concepts that relate to each god uh i can't give you a list of every

415
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:54,720
single realm because we'll be here all night but the next part is my favorite bit because it's

416
00:42:54,720 --> 00:43:00,800
as i mentioned earlier it's followed by belief so good and evil ripple and they affect magic so

417
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:08,480
particularly within both because it's a grim dark and grittier place more evil thoughts are

418
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:14,960
basically stronger and more prevalent but the next part to explain is not basically the strength of

419
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:22,480
magic is determined by belief in both uh series and we begin with the orcs colin would you like

420
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:31,200
to explain orcs and colors yes of course uh the funny orc magic is you know it's kind of it's

421
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:36,640
kind of been all over the place in some ways uh like i know there's been moments in uh like

422
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:42,000
canon where it's like blank for example blanks can stop it and it acts kind of like a traditional

423
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:47,600
chaos magic there's been other moments where blanks do nothing because it's orc funky business so who

424
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:56,800
knows but one uh consistent thing is something that uh the orcs have to do with colors because

425
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:03,280
again kind of like i just said the orc believe it to be true is something that's kind of been

426
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:08,240
if you might agree like back and forth uh some people are like anything the orcs believe hard

427
00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:14,240
enough happens some people are like there's there's limits to it but to some extent it is there

428
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:21,840
because of the orc color system an orc paints something a certain color it gets uh it gets

429
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:27,760
effects it has a actual real property transmuted to it i don't know if transmitter is the right

430
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:33,360
word but i can't think of a better one it's a yes good one so yeah the uh there's not too many

431
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:38,560
colors i know the big one people probably mostly know is purple which i don't believe is an actual

432
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:44,720
canon thing it's just a it was an in-joke at one point that completely took on a life of its own

433
00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:51,520
that you know purple is the stealth color because you never seen a purple orc have you uh but it's

434
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:56,960
still my favorite though oh it's still a lot don't get me wrong without a doubt someone cooked on

435
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:04,240
that one someone cooked but uh there's the aside from that there's a couple different ones uh

436
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:11,840
for example the color i guess shade i have the color is black a shade or a color whatever black

437
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:17,200
yeah it's isn't it like all colors combined or something like that isn't it with like light

438
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:22,160
yeah it's like isn't white the absence of color and then black is just all of them crammed together

439
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:27,760
or is it the opposite we're law how much we're laws we're law channel we ain't

440
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:35,440
theory uh but black is uh this is more so from fantasy uh at least stuff like black orcs

441
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:42,080
it's uh you're dead you're dead hard you're a you're a tough orc uh like i said purple is

442
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:48,720
probably more fan stuff uh sneaky again not so probably not canon don't think it is but

443
00:45:48,720 --> 00:45:55,120
very fun so the idea they think they can't be seen if they put purple you know i want that it's just

444
00:45:55,120 --> 00:46:01,200
ridiculous because imagine peasant being like what do you mean i can't see the entire army and

445
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:05,520
there's just like and then in reality because the war bit like a magic is affecting it like there's

446
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:11,600
an entire like wave of orcs and all just like not trying to be their version of quite quiet and

447
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:18,880
stealthy which is like not screaming but still running yeah like an entrenched line ridiculous

448
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:26,080
there's a oh no pardon me there where have you gone yellow is a

449
00:46:28,240 --> 00:46:33,520
explodey uh you paint something yellow that's supposed to go boom it'll go boom bigger

450
00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:40,480
i believe it can also in some ways mean like wealth and also in slightly other ways like also

451
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:47,200
tough uh like you know yeah aghanob's got yellow that means he's a real tough orc yeah and the bad

452
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:51,040
the bad moons as well up there flash kits and stuff with the light yeah they've got all the

453
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:57,440
money they've got all the teeth it's like prosperity yellow yeah yellow uh yellow is just in general i

454
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:04,000
i guess bigger maybe too it's like you know you you bigger wealth bigger loot pile bigger uh bigger

455
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:08,960
armor better better stuff be to be fair i don't think they have good dental hygiene so as

456
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:14,560
all their teeth must be like yellowy so they're probably like teeth valuable teeth yellow yellow

457
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:23,760
valuable yeah uh red of course the red ones go faster uh the equivalent of the human racing

458
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:30,880
stripe yeah it's so it's so brilliant i love it and uh green of course is best

459
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:40,000
uh it's the color of the gods it's the orcs it's their gods green is best green good uh

460
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:44,000
you had a donkeyman usa in the chat he says i smoked the fungus booth

461
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:50,800
immediately lost in some conversation there i think um my favorite part i think i've told

462
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:57,600
the story before but the um to explain how orc magic really works say there's a group of orcs

463
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:04,720
driving in a truck and then the lead orc is you know he's slamming that like the gas pedal down

464
00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:10,480
and he's going he's like and then the truck just starts spluttering and stopping and then he turns

465
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,720
the other walker goes i thought you were you filled it with gas and you know you're basically

466
00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:19,200
because they run out of gas and the other thought goes no i know i saw you did we did fill it with

467
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:24,160
gas and all the orcs in the rest of the truck go yeah yeah we saw you fill it with gas and then the

468
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:30,160
truck keeps on going because their belief has now made the truck yeah keep going because i think

469
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:38,720
it's filled with gas so guys the more comical stuff like just you give an orc a lead pipe and

470
00:48:38,720 --> 00:48:44,720
tell them it's a gun and it just manufactures bullets to some extent that was kind of around

471
00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:50,640
older lore they've definitely moved away from it but like like you sum it up perfectly with that

472
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:57,680
how it's like it's still there just more muted like it's less you know i have i told that like

473
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:02,800
what is it i told an orc the floor was lava but he didn't melt so now he's immune to fire

474
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:08,400
that kind of stuff doesn't really happen anymore but the little boost like yeah you know this

475
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:14,160
this clip you know you tell the orc you know the the magazine has 30 bolts and if it's only got 10

476
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:20,000
it'll have 30 now shout out to uh the best part which is um i don't know if this is a canon part

477
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:27,040
or not it's the um it's the world where they ran out the imperial guard ran out of ammo and so i

478
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:32,560
don't think it's true but it is funny if it's they say it's not it not be canon but it could be

479
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:38,720
which is uh well there's i'll tell one canon story which is with kai force kane um the laughable

480
00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:44,080
clown commissar i would do a donation by louis 1945 thank you brother he says uh currently sipping on

481
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:53,680
an oil margarita damn crude like crude oil but um thank you actually kai force kane they were

482
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:58,320
fighting orcs and then he told all of the other troops that the humans like put down their guns

483
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:03,200
and the orcs didn't know what to do because they basically believe that their whole belief system

484
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:08,800
is like they have to fight the hardest thing the the oddest thing there and the humans stopped

485
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,800
fighting them so they started fighting each other i was like that bit um so they managed to beat the

486
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:20,160
orcs by just not fighting them the one i love particularly is the the humans ran out of ammo

487
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:25,120
so they just basically lifted their guns and just shouted bang like going bang bang bang bang

488
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:29,920
and the orcs believed they were being shot so then they died and then there were people who were who

489
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:35,120
were like like they basically formed a testudo and started rolling forward and they said like

490
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:40,480
they're making the noises like a truck and like a tank so they're going and they're like going boom

491
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:45,440
and then the orcs died because they believe they're being attacked by a tank um it's most

492
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:52,160
likely not canon but it's hilarious um remind me of the new flash kits animation with um not

493
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:56,880
definitely not bluey with the broccoli just go pop pop pop pop pop and because they believe it all the

494
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:01,840
the fairies die in the black temple i was like hmm you're all right actually but there was um

495
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:07,600
mcgaylovich mentioned earlier like about the idea of a colorblind orc i feel like that would be a

496
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,520
fun story where you could have a really overpowered orc he's just like he can't tell the difference

497
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,520
between the colors and he's just like that looks red to me you could have like a really powerful

498
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:20,480
guy that'd be fun everyone else believes he's faster so he's faster but he believes he's

499
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:26,560
luckier so he's just nothing ever goes wrong for him exactly well if they believe one of the bosses

500
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:32,560
is the artist kit ever and so therefore he gets stronger ridiculous um but the next part is to do

501
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:37,680
with well with continuing on with sources of power is kind of how it's channeled is we mentioned a

502
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:43,360
bit earlier it's basically through psykers and mages mages being the one the fancy equivalent

503
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,520
they don't really use the term psykers but essentially there are people who are born with a

504
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:54,960
everything that is alive somewhat has a connection to the warp or the realm of chaos um it's just

505
00:51:54,960 --> 00:52:01,200
generally like it's like the spark of life somewhat within each thing and basically like the ones who

506
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:07,440
have a slightly stronger connection are the ones who are able to channel it to a like higher degree

507
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:13,200
and they are basically called psykers and mages they're the poor bastards who are cursed with

508
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:19,600
essentially having a ticking time bomb of power on them all times um the next part of sources of

509
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:25,200
power which is really i like this one which is science because science in warhammer is somewhat

510
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:30,720
treated like a magic because it doesn't really follow actual science and there are two factions

511
00:52:30,720 --> 00:52:37,280
that do this one of them is first is the necrons necrons i will call it science just for uh

512
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:44,800
terms speaking but it's treated like a magic it pretty much is cast like the basic the most

513
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:52,880
efficient and most like incredibly powerful um magic form within the warhammer verse it's just

514
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:58,320
like there's not as many necrons who are able to particularly use it they have things like time

515
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:05,280
magic they have uh like crypto um all the crypt i want the crypto chronomancers chronomancers and

516
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:13,280
who's in the space clap lol i just realized that one of the people in your game you were you

517
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:19,440
you'd have for the background footage it's named dog fart oh yeah hey leave dog fart look he saved

518
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:25,920
my life like three times because i was i haven't played this game in like a year so i was holding

519
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:31,440
off a hero um i was like yeah so necron science they have certain things like it's kind of

520
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:37,040
overpowered a lot of the time they even have a device where um i believe is it's illuminor

521
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:42,400
zeroth has it where essentially it's a recreation of the galaxy and if he actually like puts a

522
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:47,840
finger in it it like would detonate stars and things like that they have their science is on an

523
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:55,040
ungodly level tier examples like tracer in the infinite who is the funniest again version like

524
00:53:55,040 --> 00:54:02,640
city clown in the necron race he's able to have an entire museum planet that is sort of like powered

525
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:09,280
by a dead scar like star god or a shard of a star god which has like museum pieces that like each

526
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:16,800
frozen in time like the scale of necron magic is ridiculous their power sources are again they have

527
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,880
like things like necro dermis which is what their boys are made of like a self-healing metal which

528
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:26,880
is not a thing it's like an organic metal yeah like again like it's not a real thing

529
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:34,240
i'm like mike the brittonian groundite poor guy he's a dog fart listen dog fart dog fart is a real

530
00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:44,720
one okay he was he made me he made me finish that no yeah never mind um yeah necron science is pretty

531
00:54:44,720 --> 00:54:49,520
pretty incredible um especially on the tabletop version of it they have like different abilities

532
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:55,280
most of it is kind of related to healing or buffs in that sort of way a lot of it is to do with time

533
00:54:55,280 --> 00:55:01,600
they are basically the rules of time because they don't really age um but basically now we move on

534
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:07,440
to the next part of science magic which is the the kid that wishes it could be necron magic this is

535
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:16,240
skaven science science is basically what necron science is but it was in a mental asylum for 10

536
00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:22,480
years yeah and then it came out the other side changed skaven science pretty much is whatever

537
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:28,640
the skaven really need to achieve this thing does it like their magic is like seen as unreliable

538
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:35,280
their science is even more unreliable um so it's pretty horrible you know everyone colin wants to

539
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:43,520
go into it a little bit yeah one thing that doesn't help is uh like a lot of their quote-unquote

540
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:51,840
science is uh using warpstone as a power source which again warpstone is solidified chaos so

541
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:59,520
they're hoping the essence of change and magic incarnate is going to be a stable and reliable

542
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:09,040
power source which it's certainly a power source uh stable and reliable it is not uh this is on top

543
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:16,640
of the fact that let's just ignore warpstone very briefly a good 50 of skaven research is stealing

544
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:23,280
something from someone else without actually understanding how it works so they'll take some

545
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:28,560
like they'll take a dwarf gun they don't get why it works they know it works and then they'll try

546
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:33,520
and very crudely copy it and then probably jam warpstone in it for fun because that's just what

547
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:41,120
they do and it it'll shoot like rattling guns they're damn dangerous you don't want to be

548
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:45,760
caught in front of one you probably also don't want to be holding it or behind it because there's

549
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:51,840
a pretty good chance it's also going to blow up same with like their warp uh their warp fire

550
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:58,080
cannons uh you don't want to get hit by one of those because it's an energy beam it's like a

551
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:04,960
a halo like wraith blast is there like a thing with warp weapons where they give radiation off

552
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:10,720
because i could imagine the skaven being like oh this is great oh i'm feeling ill and then they die

553
00:57:10,720 --> 00:57:14,560
and then another game goes oh free gun and they just pick it up and just keep going and going

554
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:20,320
keep going their skaven aren't somewhat resistant to warpstone uh certainly a lot more than anyone

555
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:26,720
else not completely immune uh because you can you can still mess them up but they can eat it and not

556
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:32,080
you know start melting or mutating like you need a lot of warpstone for a skaven like to mutate or

557
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:41,600
anything they're not immune to when it blows up uh because that's just an explosion so which again

558
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:46,560
like you can uh overcharging uh it's i love it it's such a fun tabletop mechanic like you can

559
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:53,920
overcharge you know your warp lightning cannon it's gonna hurt whatever it hits it's also quite

560
00:57:53,920 --> 00:58:00,720
likely that it's going to blow up and not be usable because it's just blown up like you removed

561
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:06,480
from the tabletop because it just took too many wounds uh wayne with a new uh law criminal member

562
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:12,720
thank you wayne uh also uh bushido dofunk which is a great name he says love your i'm a lurk and work

563
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:21,760
oh yeah welcome to the lurk it's it's it's not great there's also other lovely skaven science so

564
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:26,720
we have warpstone as the basis for a lot of it we have stealing stuff as the basis for a lot of it

565
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:34,000
the skaven also uh will just kind of throw skaven slaves at a promising invention

566
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:42,480
promising they're quite uh what's the word like ingenuity like um they're quite clever to be

567
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:49,440
honest because they will really go for anything they will like you they they made spaceships they

568
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:55,760
made nuclear bombs they've made the very i just love the fact that the godom wheel exists which

569
00:58:55,760 --> 00:59:00,960
is literally like a functional i don't know what the equivalent is hamster wheel murder machine

570
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:04,720
hamster wheel murder machine but i don't really play together as a hamster wheel

571
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:10,400
escape sartank if you've ever seen that masterpiece of post world war one russian engineering

572
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:17,120
or it's like with clan molder where like their their version of like magical science is the

573
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:24,000
flesh miss of oh molder where they basically sew together rats and beasts and then chuck

574
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:31,280
warpstone down its gut their dark eldar homunculi if with somehow even less ethics

575
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:41,760
uh it's it's the dark eldar crossed the line the skaven are not aware of the concept of a line

576
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:48,560
yeah the skaven weren't aware there was a line to begin with he's like you said they're pretty

577
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:56,000
clever um although honestly uh for all that you know the cleverness and somewhat actual intelligence

578
00:59:56,000 --> 01:00:01,040
does go into things like you know echoclaws nukes and doom wheels and stuff it's also because

579
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:08,480
they throw rats at the problem so say experiment one the thing exploded 100 rats died experiment

580
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:14,720
two the thing exploded 99 rats died so we're making progress and uh once you

581
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:22,400
uh sorry you guys so once you get it down to a reasonable number of exploded rats which very

582
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:29,680
very important to note is not zero dead rats it's more like you know you know like like a

583
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:33,840
rattling gun explodes and it takes out three or four rats and it was a machine gun until then

584
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:40,240
that's that's acceptable it's like if you were to do a mission to the moon with skaven they

585
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:44,960
wouldn't it's not just that they'd launch the rocket it blows up launch rockets it's that

586
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:50,080
there's also skaven eating the other crew members who are assigned to the ship they're also not

587
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:55,200
spending any time into we've got to make sure it's safe and there's also the people and it's like

588
01:00:55,200 --> 01:01:01,200
it's just like in some ways it's like yes the problem will be getting done quicker but also

589
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:06,400
there are other problems being done at the bot at the base level and it's like even i was thinking

590
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:11,280
of like chernobyl where they were like oh in real life the russians had to like scoop bits of

591
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:16,160
radioactive concrete off the roof of um one of the parts of chernobyl and they were only up there

592
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:20,080
for like two minutes before they had to come down if it was skavens just be like nah just go in and

593
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,680
then when you die we'll just push you into the hole and then we'll be done in like two hours

594
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:32,320
yeah it's uh and because warpstone is at the core of all of it it's all very magical which is partially

595
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:41,040
why it keeps going wrong because warpstone is explosive and also corruptive and also unstable

596
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:46,800
and a whole lot of negative adjectives that make every other race rarely if ever want to interact

597
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:52,640
with it but the skaven are like yes give me more of this skaven is uh skaven magic is very

598
01:01:52,640 --> 01:02:01,600
very cool science in air quotes skaven science and magic are both intertwined and not something you

599
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:05,920
want to mess with you had almost full health why did you just take from that medicaid station

600
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:13,760
i mean i have to like you might as well might as well um but the next part of explaining

601
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:19,440
certain sources of power so the last one is a small thing it's kind of niche at the moment but

602
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:25,440
it may be bigger in warhammer which is something called enuncia it's basically it's like a universe

603
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:32,560
shaping language just when someone speaks enuncia there's like these certain words i theorize it's

604
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:39,120
possibly come from the old ones in some capacity it basically can physically alter the universe but

605
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:44,640
it's not actually from the warp it doesn't it's not it's something people use to fight against the

606
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:51,280
warp is often used at some points in the horrors heresy and in 40k at certain points it's very rare

607
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:56,160
i think only dan abnett the author is really touching that for the moment uh the next part

608
01:02:56,160 --> 01:03:02,960
is scale of complexity this is a small part just to kind of explain the basics of it uh this one

609
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:07,920
is just specific to a warhammer 40k the basic part is it's basically just telepathy and telekinesis

610
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:15,440
like on the ground level it's like mental gymnastics essentially the the basic form is often

611
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:22,560
uh like asciopatic choirs of people sending messages across long distances or things like

612
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:27,760
again like it's a small thing but like navigators who look have like a special eye who are able to

613
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:33,360
look into the warp like very like that's like the low down version of it fantasy is a it doesn't

614
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:38,960
really take on the more mental aspect as much and fantasy is a bit more like again like a bit more

615
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:47,120
traditional what you think of magic when it comes up um the next slightly higher part of complexity

616
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:53,600
is the fact that rituals exist this is truthful one of fantasy and 40k because of the way that

617
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:59,920
belief uh affects the universe as we said earlier with like the orcs rituals have a certain thing

618
01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:05,360
where it doesn't require a huge amount of belief but there are certain things where the universe

619
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:10,160
itself has established rules that in general if you enact a ritual in a certain way and make the

620
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:16,560
appropriate sacrifices chaos will basically reward it and something will answer it and he can even

621
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:21,760
do it against his own will at times so people can summon demons that do not want to be summoned

622
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:28,560
because the fact that the ritual somewhat works with the magic up to the highest level of complexity

623
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:34,000
which is the fact that demons and creatures and other things of magic they represent represent

624
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:40,800
concepts so and i i was trying to think of a good example of this one but the one that popped my

625
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:45,840
mind was when spoiler alert for people who haven't read stuff for horrors heresy about the character

626
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:52,400
garviel lokan you don't want to know meet yourself for about a minute um garviel lokan gets it right

627
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:58,400
at the end he dies unfortunately right at the end of the last book of the siege of terror and his

628
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:04,960
death the fact like the idea of it being such a betrayal the concept of betrayal goes on to form

629
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:11,120
the demon called samus which is the very first demon that they encounter in the first book horrors

630
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:17,600
rising the first horrors heresy book which then basically starts off the horrors heresy so certain

631
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:25,280
concepts can create demons like a great devastation will create like a demon or a thing related to a

632
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:33,040
certain catastrophe although good thinking of rituals as well even um the ruin storm the massive

633
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:40,160
warp storm that arabes summoned during the betrayal of kalf he did that by he gathered like gene seed

634
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:46,240
and pieces from istvan free so when i'm just no no it's from five he went i'm gonna like rummage

635
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:51,920
through all the dead loyalists for like oh here's the like head of a of a raven guard who was shot

636
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:58,080
in the back oh here's like an iron hand who was told his primarchs boring oh here's a salamander

637
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:04,000
who was called a bad guy and he just found all the like this the things that like were infused with

638
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:12,160
the most emotional trauma and suffering and dismay to help fuel the summoning of the of the ruin

639
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:16,800
storm and he went to kalf and he went to like sat under the moon he went hmm homina homina and then

640
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:23,040
he just summoned it and it's that whole thing of like certain events in the setting imbue like

641
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:30,560
talismans with power and that can be harnessed and that also is true for like demons and even living

642
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:35,440
saints like not even bad things sometimes good things like living saints and even the the tau

643
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:41,680
deity that lives it's like the tau god of like the greater good it's like a conglomeration of all the

644
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:46,640
different things that are like helper species and it's like what you get in is what you get out and so

645
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:52,720
ritual was just kind of like a force multiplier in that regard there is an example slightly of

646
01:06:52,720 --> 01:07:00,080
this which is in one of fancy which is the resurrection of nagash the last time where

647
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:07,520
the ever child i believe that is colin which is the daughter of uh the tech no no sir abtyrian and

648
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:15,040
a lariel the other queen yeah she represented the idea of like a pure soul and that was an ingredient

649
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:23,680
needed to resurrect um nagash with magic yeah she uh alie athra did not have a pleasant ending

650
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:35,360
yeah neither did volkmar neither did um who's our batman uh um the grim oath arian

651
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:40,800
arian oh i hate hate to bring it up so painful it's like that's the that's the

652
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:47,680
equivalent of like the lokan death for me like in fantasy that's like no not him no uh so painful

653
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:53,440
um so i was like that's the highest end of like skeletal complexity uh almost done here just

654
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:57,680
finishing up with a lot of few things which is the inspiration slash trot to warhammer

655
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:03,680
as you can tell if you probably haven't noticed yet warham has kind of copied someone else's

656
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:09,840
homework a few times a couple something else a few times dude talking never heard of it yeah

657
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:16,480
yeah so the more basic one is they basically copy the force uh in terms of like in 40k with how it's

658
01:08:16,480 --> 01:08:21,280
like the force but like a really dark version of it where it's not the dark side of the force it's

659
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:27,920
just like it's the force but it has massive like downscaling problems and uh you know side effects

660
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:34,720
uh so how many how many medaglorians agorius have or mephiston they're off the charts

661
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:43,120
that wasn't a good add to the series i won't lie i didn't like that um but yes i i mean the idea of

662
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:48,720
telekinesis is kind of everything that has telekinesis is somewhat a ripoff of star wars

663
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:54,800
the force the traditional magic of dungeons and dragons the sort of expansion of what was uh

664
01:08:54,800 --> 01:09:00,000
lord of the rings magic was what the foundation of warhammer fancy was because obviously games

665
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:05,440
workshop itself being a company that did make dnd stuff originally and then wanted to make their

666
01:09:05,440 --> 01:09:12,160
own stuff to sell more product they kind of just made their own dnd world um for warhammer fantasy

667
01:09:12,480 --> 01:09:18,640
and the last one is dune because if everyone hasn't seen dune dune part one and two go see the movies

668
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:24,560
they're really good um the idea of particularly the more larger scale things about like fighting

669
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:31,200
like fate itself uh time understanding of the world is a lot that has ripped off from dune

670
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:37,120
the actual god emperor is taken from dune although in the dune one he is a worm don't get i'm not

671
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:44,480
getting into it it's just too much and the last section here is rules and limitations and flaws

672
01:09:44,480 --> 01:09:51,360
which is kind of thing that makes magic the more interesting part the limitation to magic is first

673
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:58,160
of all the use of it if you use too much of it you will inevitably turn to a bubbling like writhing

674
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:03,280
mass of flesh and basically a spawn of chaos a terrible fate or you get sucked into the warp

675
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:10,800
but yeah what's like i say so that that happens both in both uh all three settings really fantasy

676
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:18,160
k aos 40k if you overdo it you are probably going to turn into a gribbly thing yes and you your

677
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:24,080
body can the the power of change itself ripples through you and you die um there is a limitation

678
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:29,680
to warp powers which which is a barrier that separates real space from the warp so when things

679
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:34,240
want to incur from the warp they take like a massive debuff so if you were to fight

680
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:40,800
say a demon in the warp you would lose no matter what because it's basically in an unlimited supply

681
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:45,520
of magic so when they say like the chaos gods are fighting each other in the war most of the time

682
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:50,000
it's like the great game those battles are nothing compared you know real space battles are nothing

683
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:55,520
compared to those ones but when they want to go so i was gonna say even isn't there like a bit in

684
01:10:55,520 --> 01:11:02,080
the devastation of ball where mephisto is fighting in the realm of chaos to like stop kabanda getting

685
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:07,520
to bars like but if he gets there we're screwed and he's just like i'm really powerful this is not

686
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:15,120
going very well yeah he doesn't he he delays him for like five minutes doesn't sound a chance um

687
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:20,320
but when demons like particularly want to cross over or other things they want to bring power from

688
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:26,640
the warp it's massive again like it's massively less powerful than what it would be in the warp

689
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:32,160
itself it is like fire in a way like you're bringing fire from a massive pot of fire into a

690
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:38,320
place where it's like oxygen deficient it's really like struggles and particularly they have to use

691
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:42,480
like again like rituals other things like they have to use other things to maintain the magic

692
01:11:42,480 --> 01:11:47,680
because the magic itself just sort of wants to dissipate kind of is like um is it uh convect not

693
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:52,880
yeah convection basically it basically wants to spread out and dissipate all over the material

694
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:58,000
verse um there is a concept as well which is the limitation for demons particularly which the idea

695
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:05,200
of true names so i think it's in fantasy but not often used as much but in 40k particularly when

696
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:10,400
something even when something becomes a demon it just gets like the core identity of its being

697
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:15,680
is stout with like a name so particularly the chapter of gray knights you know the big magic

698
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:22,960
fighting all psycho you know emperor's gene seed brothers they often align their own name to a name

699
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:28,240
of like the true name of a demon so they're uniquely skilled at fighting that particular demon and they

700
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:32,880
draw like certain i think there's also like an element of prestige where the most promising

701
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:38,160
students are given titles of like particularly powerful demons and entities they're like ah

702
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:44,080
you're going somewhere have this so you can draw a bit more extra juice from that part of their name

703
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:50,400
you know yes it was sort of acts like an anti-thing example as well like people if someone knows

704
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:55,120
someone's true name they can take control of the demon it's not as seemingly just it's not it's

705
01:12:55,120 --> 01:13:00,480
not as easy just saying it and then you're done the example is there's a word bearer called sadu

706
01:13:00,480 --> 01:13:05,920
layak who basically knew the true name of fulgrim and it almost broke his mind and he was prepared

707
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:10,640
for it he was a psycho and everything but like the idea of speaking a demon's true name particularly

708
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:17,200
like a demon primark was just unbearably painful and uh soul rending like it forever would taint

709
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:23,120
him like in a way um there are also side effects on the slightly lower level which is just being

710
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:29,840
a navigator if one the the idea of uh the concept navigators they have the third eye on their head

711
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:34,160
so they they would like sort of guide ships through the walks they're able to like look at

712
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:40,480
the warp ties with their third eye uh just being a navigator eventually you do turn into like a

713
01:13:40,480 --> 01:13:45,680
grueling mess of a thing because whoever stares into the abyss long enough the abyss stares back

714
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:50,880
into you it's very much that and never get into a staring competition with a navigator it's not

715
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:57,520
going to go well yeah even and even just coming into contact with unbridled like warp magic as

716
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:03,760
people have seen the example uh illustrated which is dark tide it just makes people corrupted like

717
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:10,640
their flesh just ripples with change and pus poison or like sleekness or blood like it just

718
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:17,920
gets ruined to like to the level where chaos itself is just a pollution in some regard it can

719
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:24,240
pollute people on a sort of you know like a physical level then also pollutes your soul just

720
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:28,800
interacting with it unless you are trained like particularly said earlier like think like psychers

721
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:34,960
and the other limit as colin did mention earlier which is blanks people who basically there's

722
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:39,200
nothing wrong with these people these people blow up the bathroom at denny's and don't let the

723
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:46,480
workers know you did it they they these people they are innately born it's like one in less than

724
01:14:46,480 --> 01:14:51,520
one in a million even of them and they're innately born with the ability to essentially be a dulling

725
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:59,040
effect to the magic of the warp around them they it's very hard to kind of they haven't really

726
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:04,640
explained exactly how that's possible i don't really know if there should be a how thing because

727
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:09,120
it's they obviously like you know everything or whatever it might just be like they're born with

728
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:15,680
like a negative effect of it but it's still magic in some kind of way or it's simply they are born

729
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:19,920
without it and they have a nullifying effect on it because there's like the pariah gene and isn't

730
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:24,640
isn't there like a thing where maybe the necrons are involved because the necrons wanted to fight

731
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:32,960
the eldar and that's like a hold off from like oh we wanted an anti-elder thing yeah it's not as

732
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:37,840
around anymore uh i know like when the dawn of war like one was coming out like the one of the

733
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:43,360
one of the necrons like leader character i think his name was like thomas macabee or something like

734
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:51,280
he was a pariah yeah yeah kind of what moved away from it which is the good and the bad it was cool

735
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:57,040
while it lasted but i said yeah essentially people who are like blanks or things that are blanks

736
01:15:57,040 --> 01:16:01,840
they're able to have like a negative effect and it essentially magic dies when it's around it

737
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:07,520
particularly uh i think recently because obviously i read and made stuff on the eyes like eisenhorn

738
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:12,080
there's a character called beckwin in it who's part of a new novel series probably probably one

739
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:17,200
of the most exciting things going on in warhammer in terms of book series coming out and beckwin is

740
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:21,520
a blank and she wonders why everyone like hates her in her life and it's because she puts out such

741
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:26,640
a negative effect that people feel uncomfortable around her like it's like someone who i the

742
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:33,840
character as well from kai's k novels juergen my beloved just a boulderic from black adder um my

743
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:40,640
man his version of it is he puts out like a he basically smells like smells like bad cheese

744
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:47,760
he's not the stank my man's stanky um but that's like that's the effect he has around things it

745
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:51,920
can disrupt yeah it can disrupt like uh they're around certain psychers as colin mentioned like

746
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:59,520
way earlier they get like they experience extreme pain because essentially it's like being somewhat

747
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:05,600
fried or like being tortured lowkey just being in their presences uh poor eisenhorn who his love

748
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:10,720
interest is beckwin and he can't even be near her or touch her um pretty much the only people who

749
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:15,840
can stand them is custodians because custodians and they're just like hmm this is like i'm kind

750
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:19,680
of annoyed by this person's presence but it's okay and they're like the only ones who can handle

751
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:26,160
them at like long intervals but yeah so blanks are a cool addition there is something as well

752
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:32,160
which we i think colin mentioned obsidian which the equivalent on one of 40k side is called black

753
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:38,720
stone which essentially is a myth it's a current thing in the pariah nexus campaign where it's

754
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:45,040
like a mysterious ancient like stone like literally a black stone which is meant to be like similar

755
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:53,520
to obsidian and it has properties such as you can either amplify or dampen uh warp magic so particularly

756
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:59,680
the imperium right now wants to create things with it the cadems the the pylons of cadia which were

757
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:05,120
containing parts of the eye of terror like warp things and massive warp tears in reality they're

758
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:11,200
often shrunk down by pylons created by the necrons and there are potentially things which are the

759
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:17,920
black star fortresses which are also kind of made from black stone uh also yeah the black stone

760
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:23,440
fortress are made from black stone and they are like seem they're seemingly like an ancient eldar

761
01:18:23,440 --> 01:18:28,720
recreation it's something it's a relic from an old era pastime such as like the war in heaven

762
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:31,600
speaking at eldar one of the one of the characters in this game is isha

763
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:39,280
yeah oh man i don't know how i don't think i i'd say i only died in the first game i did because

764
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:44,800
i got absolutely beamed by like one heavy attack got up then i got beamed by a sniper

765
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:51,920
that right playing psycho is fun uh particularly playing dark tide on like the missions where

766
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:57,840
it's all dark like it's pitch black mode that's particularly uh exciting but yeah that's yeah so

767
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:03,360
that's most like the limitations on powers as well and also just maybe one thing which is as i

768
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:08,960
mentioned with the barrier between the warp and real space sometimes like if the sacrifice has

769
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:15,440
ritual on the material versus end is not enough it just doesn't work it does not really explain

770
01:19:15,440 --> 01:19:20,160
like why like like oh why is this a set like they again like you know you're not meant to think that

771
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:25,280
you know yeah you're not meant to think about it that hard it's just it didn't like this is what

772
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:29,760
it requires you didn't meet there you know this is the limitation of you know and obviously bigger

773
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:34,880
things you know bringing in a demon prince requires greater sacrifice and greater power

774
01:19:35,440 --> 01:19:40,640
and things that don't do that it just basically goes wrong and the last we finish off with the

775
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:45,920
last part which is if anyone here wants to think about some cool lore moments with psychic powers

776
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:52,640
i did have one off the cuff which was the from horrors heresy when all the world eaters the only

777
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:57,360
ones who don't have the butcher's nails left are the world eaters psychers they kind of outcast

778
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:01,600
no basically no one likes him in the legion because they're like oh you're not you know you

779
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:08,560
know you didn't get the tattoo brother even in modern 40k it's not even that like sometimes

780
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:14,080
battle brothers don't necessarily like librarians but they're so different they tend to be quite

781
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:18,720
anti-social with them they're just like oh like even tigris they're like he's kind of weird i

782
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:23,520
respect him but i don't want to be his friend you know and it's like i always think the image of

783
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:27,600
them like in the cafeteria all the battle brothers in groups and they're just the librarian just like

784
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:34,480
oh he's reading he's fine he's reading in the corner um but a cool moment from the law was

785
01:20:34,480 --> 01:20:39,360
basically when they're trying to save their primal anger on from basically dying from the butcher's

786
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:45,600
nails because his like his ones are slightly worse than the poorly copied imperial ones that are in

787
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:50,160
the rest of the world eaters the psych essentially combine themselves like mentally into one

788
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:55,520
psychic being in the warp and they basically act like their own kind of psychic primark

789
01:20:56,080 --> 01:21:04,640
and they essentially calm uh anger on down but then yeah anger on the again because the trade-off

790
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:08,960
some of them every time they do this quite a few of them die to the point where at the end

791
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:15,360
all of them die because they basically it costs too much to actually enact the ritual i know a

792
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:22,480
cool one i thought of which was uh my boy my overpowered mufistan my chief librarian of the

793
01:21:22,480 --> 01:21:31,040
blood angels in book three the man is able to in the middle of like a aircraft stop time and simply

794
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:35,680
watch a pilot's head explode and he thinks about he has times like ponder if he should put it back

795
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:40,640
together or not ridiculously overpowered this guy and then the last part in that book where he

796
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:46,320
essentially they're fighting thousand sons and he goes there's not enough of me i need to go super

797
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:53,120
saiyan so he splits his being into three parts he sends his mental mind into like basically another

798
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:57,440
librarian to basically start playing chess and directing all the other pieces he leaves his body

799
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:03,440
holding this like burning ritual site by cooling it down with his like his body essentially right

800
01:22:03,440 --> 01:22:08,160
and using his space marine genetics just like sort of semi-heal himself while he's doing it

801
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:13,040
and then he sends his soul into the war to go chase a greater demon so there's kind of like weird

802
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:17,600
stuff like that no one else can do that because no one else is as powerful then he's basically

803
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:23,120
40k's version of dr strange he's like i'm gonna have like a a psychic fight over here and then

804
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:27,360
my physical body's going through surgery like yeah yeah mufistan you do what you like you're crazy

805
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:32,240
and then it's not really like a super cool like necessarily like magical moment but

806
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:39,440
when chief librarian tugurius of the ultramarines made contact with the hive mind of the tyrannids

807
01:22:39,440 --> 01:22:45,360
which is basically it is classed as like a psychic like magical mind but it's not off the warp

808
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:49,200
that's actually a prior thing i did miss which is like the tyrannids itself its hive mind

809
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:55,200
is a magical thing in the universe uh to the point where it actually has it has the emotion

810
01:22:55,200 --> 01:23:01,520
spite which is quite funny because it hates blood angels um he made he made a connection with the

811
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:08,800
hive mind the enormity of like a human being withstanding the might of a being that uh immense is

812
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:15,520
pretty like you need like so much more lore behind that to understand like how ridiculous that was

813
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:19,600
um and if anything is anyone a fancy one particularly like maybe with max schreiber

814
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:26,560
he's might have done something ridiculous that guy he uh i mean he's fought very impressive people

815
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:31,280
uh although i mean like you said he dual planned call as much you know as much crap as we give

816
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:35,360
skaven wizards phantom call is not the kind of wizard you want to be on the other end of his

817
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:41,440
spells you're not winning that fight uh that being said my favorite moment of his just for

818
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:50,480
how magic can work and just go very wrong is that he found a cursed artifact that a a uh a vampire

819
01:23:50,480 --> 01:23:58,480
was hunting with like intense fervor and he was started looking at this artifact and it was like

820
01:23:58,480 --> 01:24:02,880
covered in layers and layers and layers of defenses and he spent like hours just like

821
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:07,840
peeling them back bit by bit like all right i gotta i gotta know what this thing is this is

822
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:12,640
very important to both like our current situation it's also just a clearly a powerful artifact don't

823
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:18,400
know what it quite is yet but it's important and then he peeled the final layer of the defenses away

824
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:25,120
and then he found a fragment of a scrap of nagash's consciousness staring back at him

825
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:32,880
and he just on the spot like dipped out of the ritual like uh just was like i'm done i'm done out

826
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:37,520
and then passed out from both fear and being overwhelmed by nagash's presence

827
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:43,600
poor sawed himself wouldn't surprise me which is just i like you like you can find those artifacts

828
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:49,760
and 40k and warhammer alike where like there's some intensely powerful magic artifact you shouldn't

829
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:55,600
mess with it it's probably not worth it you might accidentally find out oh this is a sliver of corn

830
01:24:55,600 --> 01:25:02,240
or like poor max oh this is nagash bro found like a toenail clipping of nagash i'm like i'm out

831
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:08,000
no that's some bad stuff that toenailable clipping probably raises to the dead in a three mile radius

832
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:14,560
around it i wouldn't want to grow he's gonna really grow from it my lord there's i mean the one

833
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:20,560
of fancy one i thought of which is the um the vortex which is in the middle of the uh one a

834
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:29,360
fancy world the uh calador dragon tamer he um managed to gather a lot of the like the ancient

835
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:35,680
elite high elves in together and they creates the warp vortex portal right in the middle of the

836
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:41,760
the donut of all the one there continent and essentially it siphons off the magic of the

837
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:46,560
war from the two uh poles which is where like the in the one of fancy words that's where like the

838
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:51,440
magic comes from that's where chaos is essentially that's where the gate of chaos was where the old

839
01:25:51,440 --> 01:25:55,520
ones were and it just boom that's where they come like demons all that crap come from there

840
01:25:56,240 --> 01:26:02,560
and they siphon off the power of the uh well the realm of chaos itself into a portal that then i

841
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:08,880
does it then spit it back out i like cleansed power i think it like it it does a couple different

842
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:14,240
things like for example like uh sigmar was trapped in it ever since his ascension to godhood like

843
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:19,920
zinch threw him in it which it holds some amount of magic because between the faith in sigmar people

844
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:26,480
had and just this ambient magic the vortex he ascended through godhood it also like it does

845
01:26:26,480 --> 01:26:32,480
like spit it out uh some of it like it just gets rid of it i think in some like iterations like

846
01:26:32,480 --> 01:26:38,720
don't know where it goes it's just gone so in some cases it just deletes it uh it can also like it's

847
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:44,240
cycles back to the realm of chaos uh it does that because if there's too much ambient magic in the

848
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:50,640
world the demons just can show up at will which you do not want and the high elves that are

849
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:54,800
currently in the middle of it are they're they're locked in the enchantment aren't they

850
01:26:54,800 --> 01:27:00,240
like they are just constantly like locked in like enchanting for all time well until the

851
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:08,000
thing unravels yeah they uh like most of the elf mages except for kalidor are like i think it's

852
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:12,640
just like they're like trapped in magical amber like you ever see those like mosquitoes from like

853
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:20,320
dinosaur time they're like that just constantly keeping it going kalidor sits a little bit outside

854
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:25,280
of that just to make sure no one messes with them uh which there was actually there was a funny

855
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:30,640
moment like when the high elves and the dark elves first split because maleketh and mirathi threw a

856
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:37,360
hissy fit and unbound the vortex which worked except it also unbound all the incredibly powerful

857
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:44,000
kick-ass elf mages inside of it so they just blew them up and then reformed the vortex what do they

858
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:51,280
do what happens the kalidor dragon tamer at the end times then uh teclis's plan gets like to bind

859
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:57,680
the winds of magic using the vortex as like to help uh went wrong after mirathi went a little

860
01:27:57,680 --> 01:28:04,320
bit insane and uh undid it not helped by tyrian pulling the sword of cain and all the crap going

861
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:11,280
on there uh kalidor for his part uh when mirathi tried to flee basically just put like armbar or

862
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:15,200
something like put her in a full nelson it was like i'm going we might be going to go in the

863
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:19,280
slimesh together but you're coming with me and they he just let himself be dragged into

864
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:28,080
slimesh's gut so the mirathi would go down with him my boy uh and then an extra thing probably

865
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:34,480
then fed him to fancy which is parts of the the actual magic of the world could be thrust into

866
01:28:34,480 --> 01:28:41,200
the different colleges concept and then bound into people as like avatars those ideas so that's kind

867
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:45,520
of like a cool thing it's like you know um if everyone hears watch avatar last airbender

868
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:51,040
it'll be like someone becoming it's like i am the earth bending like the god of earth bending

869
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:57,520
one person so it's actually kind of cool because like uh for the supreme patriarch when they decide

870
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:04,240
a new one uh whichever lore of uh whichever college is lore wins uh that lore actually

871
01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:10,160
becomes like ascendant in altdorf like uh the lore of fire was the guy before gelt so fire magic

872
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:15,280
flowed through altdorf more strongly when gelt one it switched to metal which i thought was cool

873
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:22,480
like you can actually fairly easily affect how magic works if uh on a if you put enough effort

874
01:29:22,480 --> 01:29:29,120
into it i thought it reminds me of like you know the navigator houses in one of 40k yeah whichever

875
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:35,920
one becomes like the grand navigator their progeny become yeah like they do stop aren't they

876
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:42,560
they um resist and they can see through the wall better yeah they often only have minor houses

877
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:46,720
become the grand navigator because they keep getting if any of the big houses took it they

878
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:52,800
would assassinate them so they often like have the minor houses so the minor house they will find

879
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:58,720
except for like house bellisarius is like oh who's guarding you space walls the space really yeah

880
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:03,920
we've just got we have a few on retainer because with that in pauses like shit okay please come

881
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:11,440
try and assassinate me please one guy i was just growling just being nope i'm all right it's fine

882
01:30:11,440 --> 01:30:16,720
i did actually have three quick things i wanted to add hell just imagine one is a very quick one

883
01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:23,920
because i found from old warhammer fantasy roleplay a very fun miscast again i'll just read this one

884
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:31,760
verbatim while you sleep uh your genitals decide to leave you and run off north to the realm of

885
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:38,880
chaos in their place you are granted a toothed orifice which stage whispers lewd suggestions

886
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:46,640
at inappropriate moments yeah thank you thank you games workshop i don't know we need to

887
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:51,760
take a mess we need to give we need to contact the authorities and be like arrest this man

888
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:58,000
woman arrest whoever did this uh that that is a real possibility of magic in warhammer fantasy

889
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:06,880
your balls might decide to leave and become chompers uh the other two things are actual

890
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:13,440
like notification uh well notices uh divine magic is a bit different kind of like i was saying like

891
01:31:13,440 --> 01:31:17,280
skaven or kind of like paladin's theirs is a bit different though because their god is an

892
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:26,400
asshole uh like elven this is i i at least from what i've seen and theorize whatever uh

893
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:33,440
seems to be pretty equal in 40k and fantasy which is that praying to a god like the emperor or you

894
01:31:33,440 --> 01:31:38,720
know sigmar or asurian definitely gives you magical powers and stuff but it's not like

895
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:48,000
psycher powers or using one of the lords of magic it's it doesn't tend to like it's safer in general

896
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:53,040
like you're praying to sigmar and they're intercessing so it's more reliable if that

897
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:57,760
makes sense like the sisters of battle stuff like they don't their prayers and the emperor

898
01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:06,640
don't misfire right like faith magic is yeah it subverts the uh the the go wrong part of it

899
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:12,800
because like because the belief is absolute so although that being said uh i'm not sure i'm sure

900
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:17,120
it's true to some extent for 40k i don't know how much but again in warhammer fantasy it absolutely

901
01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:23,200
is uh especially in the role play you can pray to sigmar if you mess up the prayer it might still be

902
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:30,720
answered sigmar might not be the guy picking up the phone that might be zinch thank you tom warren

903
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:36,480
for the two bucks says i don't think magic is worth it with the risk true yeah yeah and then

904
01:32:36,480 --> 01:32:43,280
i get the last thing i notice is that uh fantasy it seems to be a little bit safer to be a wizard

905
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:50,000
over than in 40k uh or at least there's there's a lot more ways to deal with it if it goes wrong

906
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:57,360
like uh like a side of it's hard like a siker in the guard right he starts going wrong the answer

907
01:32:57,360 --> 01:33:04,000
to that one is the commissar is going to shoot him in the brain now uh there's like a in fantasy

908
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:10,880
though like one of the lord lore of light is just like hard counter chaos uh like it forces because

909
01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:16,880
chaos you know it's chaos it's disorderly it's all over the place it doesn't follow patterns and

910
01:33:16,880 --> 01:33:23,440
stuff at least raw chaos magic whereas the lore of light is like especially in age of sigma it's like

911
01:33:23,440 --> 01:33:30,240
it's lines it's geometry it's shapes and pure unchanging so you get a lore of light wizard who

912
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:36,000
shows up it waves his hands around and then all the corn demons kind of just freeze and disintegrate

913
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:44,080
uh which is just kind of a thing i've noticed is that the ways to keep you safe from magic and

914
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:50,000
fantasy oftentimes are more magic whereas 40k it's stuff like geller fields which there's

915
01:33:50,480 --> 01:33:55,920
there's magic involved but it's a lot of technology and stuff with it there's you know

916
01:33:55,920 --> 01:34:03,360
yeah it's like half science half yeah they write like um chaos language on geller fields don't

917
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:08,320
they like they write the inscriptions and bindings that sort of thing but then behind it is like a

918
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:15,840
gen an actual generator yeah like there is the there is a generator there's the dead dreaming

919
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:20,800
psych or whatever stuff like that but there is also actual machines going into it whereas a lot

920
01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:26,160
of the stuff in fantasy is the magic has gone wrong send in the magic that counters the stuff

921
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:34,640
that's going wrong or chaos is invaded get the lore of life wizard where's in like 40k it's all

922
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:44,480
koc yeah there's there's safer things in magic uh there's like even within magic itself that's very

923
01:34:44,480 --> 01:34:53,200
pointedly evil magic you can still counter chaos uh for example necromancy uh undead are nearly

924
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:59,920
immune to chaos unless they decide to join chaos uh like when vlad sent some blood dragons to fight

925
01:34:59,920 --> 01:35:05,040
korn which was not a good idea because blood dragons sure love a fight and korn sure loves a

926
01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:09,520
fight and then you got korn corrupted vampire knights and that was not pleasant to deal with

927
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:16,480
shout out to the guy by who awakened the demon host this actually degenerate man good man he's

928
01:35:16,480 --> 01:35:21,520
not a coward wow there's another boss fight happening yeah that was fun luckily it killed

929
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:26,240
one person i just like the idea of the blood dragons fighting the forces of korn is it's like

930
01:35:26,240 --> 01:35:32,720
are we winning i think we're winning oh what korn he's got an erection what he's liking it stop run

931
01:35:33,760 --> 01:35:40,800
we need to re-strategize this is true we did have a donation by uh caleb collins who did that he did

932
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:47,840
say uh this is a battle can cause a certain kind of blood bending like female scaven to do due to

933
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:52,160
the worst of us colin i don't i don't know what you think i'm into but i assure you the scaven

934
01:35:52,160 --> 01:36:00,640
women are not it nope they busted no no no yeah that was just i guess a semi-related like thing

935
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:06,320
to end on is which isn't like a criticism of 40k it's just magic and fantasy seems to be a bit more

936
01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:15,280
like fleshed out and versatile there's a chance of like combating chaos whereas in 40k it's like

937
01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:19,840
you're just swimming in the same pool yeah like it can be used to hard counter chaos and stuff

938
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:24,480
it's all just a little bit more fleshed out which again like i said is not a criticism it's a fantasy

939
01:36:24,480 --> 01:36:30,880
setting the magic's gonna be a lot more important 40k is it's like science fantasy or yeah they're

940
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:38,080
you know snipers or wizards but it's also i mean there's also the element of of in fantasy it's

941
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:44,000
like we have academies for this kind of thing whereas 40k it's heresy stop that stop that now

942
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:49,920
there's more ignorance in 40k where it's like oh here's a alpha level psyka let's like capture them

943
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:56,000
and make them into something useful like a colexus but then otherwise it's like yeah no bad we're

944
01:36:56,000 --> 01:37:00,560
either killing you or you're going to going to the golden throne where he will kill you

945
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:09,200
yeah emperor just going yum we did have a thing by mr meal of brother he says uh sick orders that

946
01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:16,720
one corpse we are all supposed to urinate on true truly throg throt or three a throg my beloved

947
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:24,880
throg be throgging that corpse man um with that being said though that is essentially the sort of

948
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:34,080
rundown of the magic system has magic in uh 140k and fantasy if anyone else has any um sorry

949
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:39,360
physically me milov again says yeah house skipping more times model was up there for trash day

950
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:43,920
and my story is not a bad model i just like to have a bit more like unique things on the

951
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:49,200
table top like my angron is not angron i think i've said it before my angron is an usher and

952
01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:54,880
vampire angron how has to flex the hipstery like oh no it's not all it's not like all the other

953
01:37:54,880 --> 01:38:00,400
mortarians it's actually no it's actually cheaper though because the age safe on one was like 70

954
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:09,440
quid and the more time 170 bucks i think 110 you know when i sent colin i sent you that image from

955
01:38:09,440 --> 01:38:15,760
warhammer world of the uh totally not karl franz model i did wonder if you could kit bash that with

956
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:20,400
selestine with the big wings if that would look cool because i'm like her wings are kind of cool

957
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:28,400
but like that i don't know you probably could it's just like because i've he's he's right back there

958
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:31,840
i i should not have pointed behind myself like that that's gonna be

959
01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:43,840
right let me move my thumb in the correct there he is right by my thumb there he is franz himself

960
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:52,000
it's the wings are very big like very big because it's it's a griffin i think you might be able to

961
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:57,040
make it look cool it's just a matter of like i don't know how well because they're they're clearly

962
01:38:57,040 --> 01:39:02,000
designed to be like animalistic because it's a griffin versus i mean i mean the you know like

963
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:10,000
the storm cast not karl for all the celeste prime yeah i think you you could probably make those

964
01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:15,360
look pretty good uh yeah if you get best kaleb collin says uh worth betrayal arabis or griffith

965
01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:21,360
i mean it's technically uh obviously that's um berserk uh it's technically griffith because

966
01:39:21,360 --> 01:39:27,600
arabis was never with anybody in the first place so he what the arabis literally says in his own

967
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:33,520
like novella thing i never betrayed anyone because i was always loyal to chaos whereas griffith

968
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:40,880
actually was someone's you know was uh guts as like friend and stuff man berserk is dark like

969
01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:47,440
berserk is like berserk is the perfect level of like it couldn't it shouldn't be worse than that

970
01:39:47,440 --> 01:39:53,840
because at that point then it's just scarring but although even in that novella where it's like

971
01:39:54,480 --> 01:39:58,560
arabis at least did what his parents wanted was like oh you should be more like arabis the nice

972
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:04,320
kid and he's like okay i'll be more like arabis kills him takes his name but that's not what we

973
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:11,200
meant why are you like this although andy i've got some uh other wing another newer stormcast

974
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:17,600
model uh it can be it's one of those ones it can be a name character or a generic one i think these

975
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:24,000
wings i'll put it the discord i think these wings would be pretty kick ass on celestine oh they look

976
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:30,000
good yeah oh that yeah this one i keep seeing this in all the memes where it's like what new what

977
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:35,920
40k players are getting versus this magnificent model like people don't call me older yeah i

978
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:41,840
appreciate that that's uh that is a shout out to uh ages sigma having the best modeling team

979
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:46,960
that is a that's even that is a redeemed the character is a redeemed nurgle champion

980
01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:54,000
sure enough called tornis the redeemed that's a cool comp they don't really have redeemed

981
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:59,920
chaos things in 40k the funny thing about that is that nurgle seems to be at the ass end of all the

982
01:40:59,920 --> 01:41:04,400
redemption stuff because it didn't happen but like in a god blight the emperor was like hey martarian

983
01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:11,520
look one day maybe might be able to redeem you was the at end intentional because that's kind of

984
01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:20,800
punny with nurgle was the what oh it was not it was a happy coincidence is what that was the redemption

985
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:24,720
it started in the mouth and then he went all the way through the chaos tract and then came out

986
01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:32,640
redeemed before we get way too off topic though uh that generally was the magic in warhammer 40k

987
01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:42,720
and fantasy uh who else has any other thoughts to share generally is kind of the entire iceberg of

988
01:41:42,720 --> 01:41:46,960
it really uh i should always say at the beginning if you guys did make it this far please do give

989
01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:52,240
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990
01:41:52,240 --> 01:41:59,920
like spotify amazon things and uh yeah uh we should have some cool stuff coming up for there's a new

991
01:41:59,920 --> 01:42:07,440
type of video we might try out soon but we'll see if it comes up in a bit um but thank you guys so

992
01:42:07,440 --> 01:42:12,080
much for listening and watching love you all thank you everyone who donated as well really

993
01:42:12,080 --> 01:42:19,280
appreciate that and thank you colin for bringing the skaven of course my beloved my beloved the

994
01:42:19,280 --> 01:42:30,640
skaven uh that being said see you guys on the next one appreciate you and uh have a good one right peace

995
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you