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We should be live! Hello everyone, it's Law Crimes!

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Hello!

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Welcome to your resident crime producers and crime contributors. Hello everyone.

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Your Law Dealers.

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Well today let's let the hate flow because we're gonna, you know, we're pretty positive

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people but we're about to like really get into the most hated characters in Warhammer

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in general. Some of these people should not be on this list, I won't lie Andy.

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Well here's the thing, this is a bespoke list. I made this before the stream, this is kind

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of why we're a little bit late, it was my fault. But it's like, we've put up a bunch

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of characters that you would think, oh they're obviously evil. And we put some on that personally

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we think are evil. And again guys, if you have anyone you think we've missed on this

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list, let me know. I'll add some as we go if I have to. But I think we've got a fairly

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good spread of evil and good but shitty people characters. So that's how we're going.

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I was just incredibly confused because I thought Shadow Son was Marcus Walfart who was just

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a fantasy who hunts monsters. I was like, what did he do?

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I don't know. Didn't pay his taxes.

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If you feel the urge to put more fantasy characters in Colin, just let us know. Because there's

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a few representing here.

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Well as long as the big man himself is here, who I do see him at the very right of the

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top row, I'm pretty happy with that.

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I was about to say definitely not Mr. Who's our strongest supporter in our chat for Mr.

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Luther Harkon.

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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That's him.

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No, he's great.

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Luther Harkon is not hated at all. This is the most beloved character. He will be on...

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To be fair, we should probably do a list where the most beloved characters in Warhammer.

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The explorer would I think kill us if we didn't put him in S tier.

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The chat list if you will.

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One minute in, one minute in baby. Technical difficulty speed run.

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Hello, Louis McShooey. Thank you for the two most hated besides Colin. What? My bed's

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done nothing.

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Can we get a reading of the Shane Bra message above that please?

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Oh, of course. Level five, Giat, Riz, Livy, Dune, Rizzing up baby. Man, this just keeps

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going. Gronk, Ice Spice, what the dog doing? Jesus Christ, Skivity, Toilet, and Real Life.

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I'm done. No, I'm done.

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Very wonky slushed vibe.

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Oh man, Donkeyman USA. Thank you for the five dollars. Colin, when you dropped the Teclis

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Bomb when it started as Anonymous, I about crashed on the highway.

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What's the Teclis Bomb?

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Was it the pregnant that you get Teclis Bombed?

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Yeah, it was that.

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Jesus. Very good.

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And it's not the first time he said it.

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No, it's not.

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No, that's why I enjoyed being on there, because I got to see the difference of people who

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are used to my fucking nonsense.

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People who aren't.

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Those poor guys on the start of Anonymous have heard the most ridiculous, ridiculous things

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from all kinds of creators.

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We've all been on now, which is nice.

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Oh no, sorry Andy, the microphone is hating.

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Shit.

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You're still perfectly audible. It's just you sound like a pretty augmented tech priest.

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Well, to kick off the heresy then, I made an executive decision.

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Yes, Bella Sorry is cool.

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This should be where we start, surely.

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Andy, can you please say you are an abomination?

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You are an abomination.

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Nice.

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So I think him, he's got to go here, surely.

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After the release, is it possible to zoom out a bit? I don't know if I can see the...

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I can't even see it, it's frozen.

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Yeah, there we go.

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Erebus, is this even an argument?

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I think Erebus is very much his own.

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There might be one other character who can make the Erebus list.

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They can be buddies together.

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There's one other character, but the next one, the next character though,

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we should explain a little bit why.

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Erebus basically corrupted everyone. He thinks he's the Messiah.

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Turns out he's the, you know, he is side character energy to the max.

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He basically killed Agel Tal. He killed some favorite characters.

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He killed some other ones. I don't know if it's a spoiler already,

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but he killed Carvel Loken.

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He's a very naughty boy.

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He's a hateful creature. He just sucks. Just sucks.

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Is S tier like extremely hated or is D tier like extremely hated?

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Most hated is top.

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Okay.

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These are all people who are hated.

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The least hateable of the hated fellows.

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It could be a bit of like in universe and a bit of our own personal bias.

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This is not an official, like, you know, in the universe.

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Cause some of these people are like, oh, Joseph Pollard says,

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Colin, thank you for informing me how much,

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thank you for informing me how much of a no diff fantasy slash signal has with 40k.

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Yes.

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Fantasy is way better.

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I don't want to let Colin even mention the next one.

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Just keep this, keep, keep his goddamn name out.

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Mr. Perturabbo.

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I'd say he's a bit, I feel like he's 50, half the people hate him, half the people love him.

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Look, I can, I can accept him like being an A or B.

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B for sure. Yeah.

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He is C tier. He's actually like, legitimately,

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his books are like some of the best in the entire damn series.

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Yeah, but community wise, I'd say he's half and half, right?

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People get away. Okay. I don't understand it. People.

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Why don't you like him? I like him.

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I like him. He's a man child.

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Yeah. He's a fucking child.

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People only say that because Major Kills said it for three years straight.

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And now it's been perpetually. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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No, no, no, no. His thing.

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I've literally, before we started the stream,

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is my voice better by the way? No.

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No. No.

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But we can still, you're still legible. It's just static.

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Okay. Praise the God Messiah.

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Well, all I'll say, I just finished my Battle of Farl video.

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He got dunked on by an Imperial Fist captain.

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And then he had a little bit of a like, oh, and he had a whinge about it.

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Rubbish. I mean, all Primarchs have, I mean, Conrad Kerr has got stabbed through the back by a character.

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Every Primarch has their flaws. People just don't care about the other ones flaws.

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They only...

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Roguel Dorn got killed by...

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Jagged Eye has no flaws.

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Fini, alright, well, we're going to move fast that one as quick as we can.

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Listen, Pertorobo is legitimately, it's unfounded.

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The whole point is like the Emperor, the Emperor threw him at the worst like battles imaginable and then didn't even,

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like all the, all the victory, all the laurels, everything was thrown on other brothers for things like he,

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like the people who didn't deserve it. That's his whole thing.

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Well, I feel the two things, one, Fini, lock, lock, and chat, put a very good point.

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He strangled his sister to death. I think that's a pretty valid reason not to like...

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Have you read that, have you read that book though? It's actually like a, it's a really sad book.

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It's very...

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The whole point is he, he does it at the end of it.

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Yeah, if you haven't read the books, I don't want to hear a single goddamn opinion.

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Yeah.

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Mr. Major Kill. Oh my gosh.

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Bro, this is like someone, this is like someone saying, oh man, I haven't read Lord of the Rings, but I,

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I just don't think Gandalf's a well-written character.

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You're like, oh, Bormir sure was a terrible person. But I haven't read Lord of the Rings. I've only seen the movie.

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All right, now hang on now. That's different. Perturabo was not tempted by the One Ring.

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He's just a bitter asshole.

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Yeah, but you would be too.

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That's the least of the crimes compared to got corrupted by a broken whispering sword.

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Lizzie McShootie says, Andy out here dishing for the Dark Mechanicus. That is true. Mr. Tech, he runs all of our tech.

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I think I almost understood my flesh. It disgusted me.

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Oh, now it went away.

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His whole personality is just sandpaper. It's not, bro, you're not, bro. This is-

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Bro, I haven't read the books.

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Here's the thing, here's the thing, here's the thing. Perturabo is just like that guy who went to school and he tried really hard and he got good grades,

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but he didn't have a personality beyond, oh, life's so hard. It's like, yeah, deal with it. You're a doctor. Deal with it.

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You're a Primarch. Deal with it. It's like, all right, Purdy, I understand your Legion had a tough time. Doesn't mean you can be a shithead. Come on.

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I'm also saying put him in B because I know I'm not alone in disliking him.

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Please put it in B. Please put it in B.

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Here's the thing, the only reason he goes down to B is because he's capable.

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Which is the character.

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Yeah, he straight up beat, he beat Angron when he was a demon.

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I freaking punched out Fulgrim.

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Mortarion is next though.

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That's not a likable character trait. Everyone in 40K just calls shit at some point or other.

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He's done cool shit. I'm not denying that.

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Yeah, Gillum and lost to Fulgrim, but he's 10 times better than Perturabo.

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Also, Gillum was punching people out of space if we're going to, if we're going to.

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For 10 hours for something stupid. I'm sure it was like eight hours he was in the void. He's just like, I didn't hear no bell.

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I need to do a thing where Colin loses a bet and he has to read the Perturamo, Perturamo Primark book.

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There's already a Primark book I'm going to be reading soon. I'm making my way through Thantqual.

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You're not getting me to read Perturamos.

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Thantqual, or The Lion.

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Yeah.

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It's a good book.

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Alright, Morty.

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Morty!

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Mortarion.

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Mortarion.

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Mortarion.

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I'm going to kill you.

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I don't want to hate you.

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D for Deathguard.

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I won't put up dates here. People hate this guy.

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I'm not going to lie. Mortarion, having like, it's one of those annoying things.

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Before I read his stuff, I would have put him in A-tier.

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Having read the entire thing, like I, it's difficult because I get like, I like the fact that he's so flawed in terms of he actually like his hypocrisy.

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I'm going to say it again for the people in the back. Having a character that is a hypocrite is not poor writing.

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What's happening?

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In Warhammer, the fact that no one recognizes they're a hypocrite is the most fury-ating thing.

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People don't want flawed characters, Hal. They want their perfect, pretty, freaking Primarks.

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That's the whole point.

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Yeah, because everyone in this is uncultured and doesn't understand their writings.

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How can people go to war and like, they don't acknowledge their hypocrisy?

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The Warhammer community doesn't like good writing.

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He's a poorly written character. I said he's a cunt.

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True. To be fair.

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I still don't like Mortarion.

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I'm not saying he's a bad character, but I don't like him.

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All I'm saying is Morty had like several chances to have like redeeming qualities and every time, apart from his Primark book where he takes the piss out of the bitter blood, where his son gets his arm bitten off.

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And that's before he's in Astartes. He's like, oh, they bit his arm off and spat it out because it tasted so bad.

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He's like, oh, bitter blood. He's like, oh, we should call you that. And there's like, oh, you have a little bit of redeeming qualities.

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And then afterwards, when he has like a legion, there's just nothing to like about him. He's just the dick.

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He's a man who he likes to destroy people who are enslavers, but yet he's no better solution in the end.

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So but and in universe, he's pretty much no one like he has no friends. Donation by Kinotech USA says, Purty mocks any Primark he faces, y'all on some.

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That's what I'm saying.

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Jagatai. Oh my gosh. He could kick his ass.

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They never fought. They never fought. What are you talking about?

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No, but if they did, if they did, Jagatai would be like, you're too slow.

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And he beat him up.

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Mortarion did fight Jagatai.

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No Purrderabum.

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Yeah, if you like a turtle versus like a tiger.

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Who needs to move fast when the Khan can't do anything to you.

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He moves so fast.

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But also Mortarion, he's a demon Primark now, which automatically makes him A-tier in my opinion, because he's just a moment you become a demon Primark is the moment you lose all aspects of any character.

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So Purrderabum, to be fair, if you say Purrderabum, he's a demon Primark. Purrderabum is immediately more hated.

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He's a demon Primark off screen though, and that was a stupid change.

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It's almost like the theme of 40k was decay and people not doing what they need to anymore until the great rift and Primaris Marines and narrative consistency go to hell.

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Sonic says, I like Peter. He is a cringe atheist.

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Thank you, Joseph.

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Oh, that's Fabius style.

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Speaking of a cringe atheist.

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Speaking of a cringe, it's Emperor time.

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Andy, can I make a suggestion?

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Can we just right between A and B, just make a tier that says Emperor, because you either love him or fucking hate him.

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Between A and B.

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Just like right in the middle.

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It just says Emperor.

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That's a thing in universe. You either love the god Emperor or hate him. Out of universe, you either like him or hate him.

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What the?

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God, Jesus.

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It's doing weird stuff. I don't like it.

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I'm doing my best. Oh no, I ruined it. It's fine.

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Today we'll just leave the Emperor there. It's fine.

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It probably is between A and S. He's like the most abominable worst hypocrite ever. Or he's very much like, he's a bastard, but he had to be.

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What's the next one?

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Conrady Kurz.

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Conrad Kurz.

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Again, he's like a decently well written character, but my God, is he the worst.

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And his fans are something else.

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I don't hate Conrad. Nightlord's fans are the problem. Conrad Kurz is not the problem.

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We have a donation by Maximus Desius Manus. Is that what you think that was? First ever donation. Ever considered each Primarch is just a separate aspect of the Emperor's absurd levels of autism, except Horus and Lorgar.

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Which, why they're villains.

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Does that mean that the Emperor gets a worse rating because he's technically irresponsible?

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You can't, I mean, you know, with no Emperor there would be no Horus Heresy.

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It's difficult. This is one of the things that I get annoyed about in 40k, where it's a, if the Emperor didn't exist, would chaos have even eventually like destroyed humanity in the future kind of thing?

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Like would that be like our end death? Or does chaos exist because of him? Or did he start becoming the Emperor because he knew he had to fight chaos? It's a weird like, which is weird.

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I think it was a case of he was like, I need to stop this. I'm the only one who can stop it. I'll just like become a kind of robotic demagogue because that's all I can do.

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Could Colin read the name of the next donation person? Because that's quite the...

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Okay. The band of mighty shlong. Thank you for...

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Thank you so much protein.

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If you don't record a detier of starting a blood cult in Colin's kitchen.

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I think, Jesus Christ, I think, where do you guys think Colin O'Kers belongs?

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Say C-T.

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The thing is, I've got to... Is he well written? Really?

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As in it is entertaining.

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He's one dimensional as F.

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Well, I...

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There is nuance to it.

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Imagine...

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In his Primark book as well, like it kind of breaks him down.

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Imagine like a rabid puppy bites you. I feel that's Conrad. You don't like that puppy, but it's mostly just pathetic.

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But even with a rabid puppy, you'd have moments where you could pet it and it would like have glimmers of being like, oh, this is nice.

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And then it bites you when it has like a relapse. But Conrad doesn't have that. He's just always a bit of a shitter.

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Like there's never a moment. There's never a glimmer of nice qualities. So he's always... To me, he's always been like, oh, he's just a bad guy.

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And he has an excuse for being a bad guy, but he hasn't got any redeeming qualities. So it's like, I don't empathize with you because you're so cartoonishly evil.

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Maybe it's just me. I don't know.

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I think it's interesting because it does tackle the like his twisted ideology, which I think a lot of the other Primarks doesn't really go into that level.

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It's more like their experiences, whereas you actually sort of experience the mind and the sort of mental acumen of this twisted creature.

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So again, I don't think, particularly in community, he's hated not because he's like, oh, such a shit character.

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It's more like he's hated because he is the villain.

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Because the thing is, like, we put Purty in B. Like, I can understand Purty's position and I know that he was constantly trying to prove himself.

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But like, Conrad had like Primark level interventions where they tried to fix him and Horus sent Fulgrim to mentor him to try to fix him.

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And everyone tried to fix him and every time he just didn't take the initiative.

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And I'm like, there's never been a, correct me if I'm wrong, but there's never been anything in the law that shows he has any redeeming qualities.

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He just instantly falls and goes, no, I'm evil and I'm broken.

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It's like, you didn't try. You could have been better.

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At least, as much of a baby he is, at least he tried.

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Whereas like Conrad, I'm like, he didn't try. He just went, oh, I'm just evil and bad and I'm going hot.

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If he was totally unredeeming, then why would he like at the very end, weep over everything he had done?

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Because he called, he basically believed, he believed fate wise he was forced to do it.

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Like he just, he thought he was a prison.

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So he wasn't unredeeming completely. He was just a monstrously wrong.

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I mean, I don't know where to put him now.

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I don't see how.

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Bruh, could he use the future and not fix his own problems? Bruh, sounds like a skill issue to me.

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It is truly.

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I mean, when the emperor just does this straight up, say, you know, your only problem was you just didn't believe you could do anything.

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So you can basically, you didn't even try and, you know, move the boat against the stream.

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Eli, the nightlords are a very good indie game who gets a completely abominable fan base.

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Yep. They are the undertale of Warhammer.

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Yay. Yes. Love that game.

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Yeah, me too.

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That the subreddit that gets banned.

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Shame about the fan base.

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Shame about what happens if you look up anything.

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Shout out to Richard E.B. who did that amazing cover album of Undertale songs.

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Shout out to the Smash Bros community.

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Alright.

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I think we're good on that one.

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Let's go on to the next character.

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It's not the same thing. I'm joking, obviously.

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It's Kato Sikarius. It is I, Kato Sikarius.

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Hated by all water town.

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S tier. S tier.

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Put him in A tier because there was, he's not as hated anymore.

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You know, after.

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I don't think it's, it's not.

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He was.

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I would hate Conrad Kurze more than I would hate Kato Sikarius.

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Yeah, but like he still has hold over from the days of the ultramarines.

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Yeah, should we just put Matt Ward in the back?

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Is that what we're saying?

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He's going down.

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We can't put any more unique ones in.

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We need more Matt Ward.

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There's too many.

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Bring Matt Ward back. He'll fix everything.

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Is it going to put Conrad and Mortarion in C tier at least?

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Because they're not.

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No.

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They're not dazed.

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No.

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That's no control.

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I wouldn't allow it.

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Oh my gosh.

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Next one is that.

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He's a tyrant.

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Lucius the Eternal.

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S tier, man.

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Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

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Not, no, no.

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He is supposed to be hated.

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Yeah.

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He is the hate.

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Yeah, well most people hate him for the wrong reasons, but whatever.

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He was, Lucius was goaded during the Horus Heresy when his character was super boring.

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So he is at least half cool, right?

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He did fight like 1v10 and the Inn on Istvan and won.

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So like.

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To be fair, Lucius, Araman and Khan are all a bit like they haven't done much for the

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last 10,000 years.

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At least Typhus is out there doing stuff.

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Whereas the other three are just like.

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I've read.

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Khan's far more people, Khan killed the Saints.

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He's living his best life, but he hasn't really like done much.

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And Araman, like he's doing his own thing, but he hasn't really done much.

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I've read the Lucius the Eternal book.

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There's a reason the book is an all like action scenes book.

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Cause there is this guy is about as deep as a puddle.

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I know they did not try hard on him, but that's not why everyone hates him though.

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Everyone hates him because oh, he loses fights like any character should in any fantasy.

343
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The dumb resurrections though.

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The dumb resurrections.

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Hold on.

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There is also the fact that like he invaded the Exorcist chapters like fortress monastery

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and just like wrecked all their stuff.

348
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Yeah, Typhus should be.

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These are the guys who get possessed by demons.

350
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He's not a demon though.

351
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And they look like chumps.

352
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Yeah.

353
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Yeah, but they think they have like.

354
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Lucius is unironically a baller.

355
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Authors are just really stupid and don't write him into goofy situations.

356
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If you can respawn the dark, you're going to lose.

357
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That's how it works.

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But they're like hey.

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Maximus Decius, a donation here says that Comet is like the kid in history class who

360
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tries to justify atrocity with the logic that it killed less people than the island hopping

361
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campaign.

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Yeah.

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Sitting on the outskirts of Sardinia.

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Anyway, it's like, but the thing is like the Exorcists are like other than the Grey Knights,

365
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it's the most occult focused faction that should know what they're doing.

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And then like Lucius like waltzes in and they kill him and they're like, ah, don't worry

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about it.

368
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He's just some guy.

369
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It's like, mm, these don't make sense.

370
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I'm just saying.

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Come on.

372
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We all know.

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We all know if he's not an S tier, people would look at us funny.

374
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He is hated for like he is generally is like he is one of the most hated characters.

375
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He is hated.

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If Carinthius or Armon came in and killed every Exorcist, nobody would care.

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All right.

378
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All right.

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Here's a question of the heralds of the four.

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Who's the worst herald?

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Lucius.

382
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Yeah, he's not great because he has one book and like zero other things in 40 K.

383
00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:28,360
Well, I think he's I mean, I hate him because what the fucking shit he did at his farm.

384
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He was just, he's just like, I wanted to be in charge.

385
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He was a pet.

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Open the gates.

387
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Yeah.

388
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And also he lost because he's an asshole.

389
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He lost to Saul Carvitz in a duel and then when no, I'm still going to win.

390
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I hate you.

391
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Dick.

392
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He took a lot of W's.

393
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All right.

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You can't you guys.

395
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You guys.

396
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Eli is just.

397
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He's just because he waited.

398
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I'm just hating him because he betrayed the loyalist on his farm.

399
00:23:56,360 --> 00:23:57,360
Yeah, that does.

400
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So he was he was for sure.

401
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The reason that that didn't go on for another month.

402
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S tier, S tier, S tier.

403
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S tier.

404
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This is the this is the this is the below Erebus character.

405
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This is like the last true emperor's children.

406
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Now, it's all time.

407
00:24:12,360 --> 00:24:14,360
But it's all about this.

408
00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:16,360
But Rylan or lasted longer.

409
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I miss you, Saul.

410
00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:23,360
And also the Spasian who confronted his Primark and then the Primark went, lol, dead.

411
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The next one.

412
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The next one is not really hated, but he was hated in a city like told us to put this on

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this one.

414
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Gabriel, Gabriel and do you love or hate double flips?

415
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Don of War 3 gives a backflip.

416
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It's here for me.

417
00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:40,360
And that is Don of War 3 Gabriel right there.

418
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I can't knock it on.

419
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Ironically, pretty cool back flipping Terminator.

420
00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:46,360
Funny.

421
00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:47,360
It's very funny.

422
00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:49,360
It's so funny.

423
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I love that.

424
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I think people just have to have PTSD from the game rather than the actual character.

425
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I feel like you'd blame Gabriel Angelos for Don of War 3 being ass.

426
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Yeah.

427
00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:04,360
I mean, his damn voice lines hit so good.

428
00:25:04,360 --> 00:25:08,360
That's like blaming an actor for a script they haven't written that they have to perform.

429
00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:09,360
It's not the actors fault.

430
00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:10,360
Yeah, because people hate Lucius.

431
00:25:10,360 --> 00:25:14,360
Everybody hates Lucius because they watched one Major Kill video five years ago and they

432
00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:17,360
haven't read a single flip for the minute.

433
00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:18,360
I don't know.

434
00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:21,360
Maybe that's not why you guys hate him, but that's why the community hates him.

435
00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:22,360
Alright.

436
00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:27,360
Yeah, but he was in a Thousand Sons book and his whole plot line was, oh, Sinark, I want

437
00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:28,360
to beat you up, mate.

438
00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:30,360
Nobody's read that Thousand Sons book.

439
00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:32,360
At least he was interesting in that book.

440
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He was slightly interesting, but he was still that annoying younger kid who just hangs around

441
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with the older kids at school in the playground.

442
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He's like, oh, I just want to be part of the gang.

443
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He's like, you're trying too hard.

444
00:25:43,360 --> 00:25:47,360
I like characters who people get mad when they win because I think that's funny and people

445
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are babies.

446
00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:54,360
But he's not like Erebus, who actually has a clean record of win upon win.

447
00:25:54,360 --> 00:25:58,360
He's like, ah, I failed and I failed and then cheat codes.

448
00:25:58,360 --> 00:26:01,360
Yeah, because he's the only character that they can let fail because if the other ones

449
00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:04,360
die, then they're dead and they can't do anything.

450
00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:07,360
They can't let the other characters fail, which is so stupid.

451
00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:10,360
And Khor gets resurrected all the time by freaking Khorne.

452
00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:12,360
I've been reading the new world.

453
00:26:12,360 --> 00:26:14,360
Khorne got two-shot in the Horus Heresy.

454
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He literally got destroyed.

455
00:26:16,360 --> 00:26:19,360
I mean, I've literally been listening to the new Emperor's Children book with Zantai and

456
00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:23,360
he's like an Emperor's Children captain and he's like, he gets stripped of a demon.

457
00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:29,360
It's like he goes through his stuff and like it's not Lucius levels of BS, but he gets

458
00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:33,360
humbled and he still degenerates his way out of it.

459
00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:35,360
I'm like, good work for you, mate.

460
00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:36,360
Nice one.

461
00:26:36,360 --> 00:26:37,360
Better than Lucius.

462
00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:39,360
Asriel should have killed Khorne.

463
00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:41,360
Just saying.

464
00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:47,360
But he couldn't kill Khorne because then Khorne would be dead.

465
00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:48,360
Crazy.

466
00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:50,360
I'm just saying.

467
00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:51,360
Logar.

468
00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:53,360
Logar is an S tier for sure.

469
00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:58,360
I love the guy, but I think most people hate him again because major kill videos and nobody

470
00:26:58,360 --> 00:26:59,360
actually likes him.

471
00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:02,360
That's genuinely one of the most...

472
00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:08,360
Because again, it's an interesting person who deals with the actual character who deals

473
00:27:08,360 --> 00:27:12,360
with the philosophical side of chaos.

474
00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:16,360
And then he actually had the appropriate 1v1 versus an avatar of Kain.

475
00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:17,360
Sorry, Khorne.

476
00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:20,360
The actual only appropriate one.

477
00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:22,360
Logar is interesting.

478
00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:29,360
He's cool-ish, but again, being the runt of the Primarchs, I can see why people start

479
00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:32,360
to hate him because they basically look down on him.

480
00:27:32,360 --> 00:27:33,360
Yeah.

481
00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:38,360
And he got messed up by Korraks on Istvan, and he got messed up by Giliman on Nusaria.

482
00:27:38,360 --> 00:27:42,360
And he got messed up by Horus.

483
00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:45,360
And then he sulked for 10,000 years.

484
00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:50,360
I would sulk for 10,000 years too if I did what he did.

485
00:27:50,360 --> 00:27:55,360
You guys be dogging on characters when everything gets sad.

486
00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:57,360
I would be sad too!

487
00:27:57,360 --> 00:28:01,360
I'm not dogging on Rogal Dorn when he got sad.

488
00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:05,360
Rogal Dorn carried his broken father and his dead brother to the Imperial.

489
00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:08,360
Yeah, but it wasn't Rogal Dorn's fault that his father was dead.

490
00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:14,360
Too bad Rogal Dorn couldn't carry a fucking scene he's in because he's so boring.

491
00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:16,360
Excuse me, excuse me.

492
00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:18,360
Crimson Fist, he's great.

493
00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:23,360
Sorry, there's only one person in the entire community who actually thinks Rogal Dorn's

494
00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:24,360
their favorite.

495
00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:26,360
That's only Chat to Master Valorant.

496
00:28:26,360 --> 00:28:28,360
And that's the only person.

497
00:28:28,360 --> 00:28:32,360
No one else is like, oh man, I'm so excited to see Imperial Fist lore.

498
00:28:32,360 --> 00:28:35,360
He's kind of like mid, but he is good when he's good.

499
00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:37,360
But he's fine.

500
00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:39,360
Have we even got Corvus Korrax on this list?

501
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,360
We should have him, shouldn't we?

502
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,360
Because he's mopey emo-gay.

503
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,360
I don't know if people hate him or hate Terran.

504
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,360
I just think nobody cares about him.

505
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,360
Korrax is racist towards Terrans, but other than that, he's kind of solid.

506
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,360
Korrax is low-key a bit of a racist, yeah.

507
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,360
Everyone 40k is low-key a bit of a racist.

508
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,360
I think in-universe Jagatai isn't.

509
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,360
Logar is hated.

510
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,360
Jagatai is like, as long as you cut your face, all of you are my sons.

511
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,360
I love you, man.

512
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,360
Jagatai's biggest sin.

513
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:09,360
I can't blame you.

514
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,360
I love the guy, but holy frick.

515
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,360
See?

516
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:13,360
See?

517
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,360
What happens when the dude cutting their face isn't a human?

518
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,360
You go and date them in camera.

519
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:22,360
That's what he's doing right now.

520
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,360
What's the next one?

521
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,360
Who is this next one?

522
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,360
Who is Eldrad Uffrun?

523
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,360
Now, he is in-universe.

524
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,360
There's quite a few people who have got a beef with this dude.

525
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,360
Do you want to explain a little bit, Colin?

526
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:43,360
Well, you see, Eldrad, I think, first off, he's from Ulthwe, who is the seer of Craftworld.

527
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,360
So other ones like Simeon are always like, he shows up and they're like,

528
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:48,360
God, get the fuck out of here.

529
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,360
You're so annoying with your future eating carpet.

530
00:29:52,360 --> 00:30:00,360
He also tried to summon Iniad, and his method of doing that was to steal all of the farseers

531
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:06,360
and warlocks from the Infinity Circuits of every Craftworld, which I'm impressed if he could pull that off.

532
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,360
But all right.

533
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:18,360
And then he kind of failed, which, you know, to be fair, he failed because the Death Watch unbelievably...

534
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,360
I don't want to kill Snash, actually.

535
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:20,360
I'd rather kill this Eldar guy.

536
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,360
Oh, my God.

537
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,360
I love GW writing. They have the best authors ever.

538
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:31,360
Death Watch Captain Artemis should have been immediately unpersoned by the Inquisition after that.

539
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:38,360
But yeah, he got a whole bunch of Spirit Stones and souls wasted, and Iniad did come out,

540
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,360
so he did kind of succeed, but not enough to justify it.

541
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,360
I'm just adding someone.

542
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,360
He got exiled.

543
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:51,360
He's also an Eldar, so, you know, out of the universe, that immediately can't go lower than B tier.

544
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,360
Yep.

545
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:59,360
He's been hated as well, particularly if you were reading the Horus Heresy books.

546
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,360
I won't lie.

547
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,360
My man's intellect is a bit lacking in the Horus Heresy.

548
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,360
He's trying, bro. He tried.

549
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:12,360
He tried to save humanity, not for humanity's sake, to be fair. He doesn't care about humanity.

550
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,360
He freaking tried. Nobody listened to him.

551
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,360
Yeah, but that's the kind of thing, like, when you go to the jailhouse and they're like,

552
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,360
we're sentencing you. Do you have any last words?

553
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,360
I was trying to save you.

554
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,360
Fulgrim was literally about to listen to him until, oh, there's a sword.

555
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,360
I'm so good at writing books. I'm so good at writing.

556
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,360
Fulgrim, the man who fell to a sword.

557
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,360
So stupid, man.

558
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,360
The donation by our resident brother, Mr. Mikhalov.

559
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:46,360
He says, finally got my salary. Anyways, where's the C.S. Godin?

560
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,360
Dude, no.

561
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,360
Bro is the wisest moron, says DJ Beast. Yeah, there's a bit of a...

562
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:58,360
Eldred is fighting not only against the forces of the 41st millennium, but against the writing of games at workshop.

563
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:03,360
Maybe. I think leave him in C. He's hated. People got beef with him, but...

564
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,360
I like the elder.

565
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:05,360
He's cool.

566
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:06,360
What's the next one then?

567
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:12,360
I've added one because Quantum Cthulhu said, is Ophia weird-make on this list?

568
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:17,360
This is the space wolf who's like, ah, psyches are cringe while being a psyche.

569
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,360
Well, technically...

570
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,360
The roots vary.

571
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,360
The dwarves in fantasy are psyches.

572
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:32,360
I mean, to be fair, this guy got literally, I think, Aruman got his soul devoured by demons or something.

573
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,360
So he kind of got it.

574
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,360
He did get it, but he was still a bit of a dick.

575
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,360
Fuck that guy.

576
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,360
Gotta be honest.

577
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:43,360
I like every single space wolf in the Thousand Sons books. Thousand Sons got it. They got what they deserved.

578
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,360
Yep.

579
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,360
Bitch.

580
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,360
I'd beat up a Thousand Sons book if I had one.

581
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:55,360
I'm just saying, if your own Primarch is like, I'll let my sons and civilians die for the greater good, your Primarch is a bit of a...

582
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:59,360
Thousand Sons or Goated Magnus is their worst aspect.

583
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:00,360
Thousand Sons are actually all good.

584
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,360
The next one is the true Phoenix King.

585
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,360
True Phoenix King? I love you Malachith! I'm your number one fan!

586
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,360
Sign my boob!

587
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,360
Thank you, Abundant.

588
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,360
I love this guy. I love this guy.

589
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,360
Another donation by Kabanda's Mighty Shlong.

590
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,360
Eldran was trying to speedrun pissing off Fulgrim.

591
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,360
But he actually got through to Fulgrim. That's the thing.

592
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,360
Fulgrim was actually like, yeah, what do you mean? I talk about this all the time.

593
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:33,360
Fulgrim was like, oh hey, that Eldar guy is actually right.

594
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,360
And then Eidolon said, here's your sword, sir.

595
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,360
And then he's like, oh, that Eldar guy was totally wrong. I should join Horus.

596
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,360
Imagine getting cucked by Eidolon.

597
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,360
It was by the sword.

598
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,360
Oh, it's the sword, innit? It's always about that sword.

599
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,360
Bro, there's nothing I can do!

600
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,360
See how it was written.

601
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,360
He picks up the sword and it's all down the hill.

602
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,360
Sorry, donation by Raw666.

603
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,360
Hell of a name. Eldran B- tier.

604
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,360
B- tier for his inability to tell even his own people the truth

605
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,360
and getting people killed due to it's overall dick move.

606
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,360
He is a bit of a dick.

607
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,360
Alright, the next one is...

608
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:13,360
Is it Vect?

609
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:14,360
Vect.

610
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,360
I haven't read enough Dark Eldar stuff to know if I hate him.

611
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,360
I mean, I know in-universe, this is probably like...

612
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:27,360
Of all the people who like, you'd want to like, you know, maybe Erebus you'd probably want to try and kill.

613
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,360
Vect, you just wouldn't go anywhere near in case you didn't win.

614
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,360
There's no in case.

615
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,360
You'd be going to the heart of Gamera.

616
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:40,360
Because I'm not ready to be a moaning like couch

617
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,360
in like some back alley because he found it funny.

618
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,360
So I think everyone would be happy.

619
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,360
There's not a single person who wishes he was alive. At all.

620
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:56,360
Vect seems cool. Vect has like a 100% win rate pretty much, right?

621
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,360
If I remember correctly.

622
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,360
Well technically, if anything goes wrong, he eventually wins.

623
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,360
But he's never lost a war.

624
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,360
Easy. Easy win.

625
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,360
I like the Dark Eldar. They get too much hate. Just like the Eldar.

626
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:10,360
Big truth.

627
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,360
Should put him next to Malekith as well. That'd be very appropriate.

628
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,360
DJ Beast, there's nothing Fulgrim could have done. It was literally him versus the writer.

629
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:23,360
The writer needed a reason for Fulgrim to fall and he just felt like not trying.

630
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:28,360
And he didn't listen to the sword for 75% of the book.

631
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:33,360
DJ Beast also said Colin already has the brain cell of Drukhari furniture.

632
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,360
We just need the body of one.

633
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,360
The fall of Fulgrim is more Beka Kinska's fault than it is the freaking sword.

634
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,360
That was just the nail in the coffin that needed the sword to get through.

635
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,360
That's double simpage. It wasn't the sword, it was the Remembrancer Lady.

636
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,360
It's pretty, innit? I like her.

637
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,360
I see your second Erebus tier right there.

638
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,360
Yeah, this is the only other thing that could get Erebus tier.

639
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,360
I can't even like Manfred, dude.

640
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,360
Manfred von Karstheim.

641
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,360
He got cucked by writing Erebus tier, surely.

642
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,360
No, it is Erebus tier.

643
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,360
He's higher than Erebus in my opinion.

644
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,360
But he's the fantasy version of Erebus, right?

645
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,360
Yeah, but they didn't even do a good job with him.

646
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,360
Erebus gave us 40k, Manfred took fantasy.

647
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,360
He's higher than Erebus.

648
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:22,360
In fairness, Erebus is...there's no part of Erebus that's like poorly written.

649
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:27,360
Like Erebus is always kind of...like you hate him, be like, oh I hate him because he's so like...

650
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,360
He's the guy, the villain, and he's such a little rat.

651
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,360
But Manfred is like, oh, you know, like fuck this guy.

652
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,360
Like when he shows up, you don't want him to show up.

653
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:41,360
I mean, to be fair, it is in End Times, and End Times is some of the worst writing in GW history.

654
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,360
So it's not his fault.

655
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,360
But I mean, it's like Fulgur, like there's nothing you can do about it.

656
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,360
That's what he did.

657
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:55,360
Yeah, he would be in S tier either way though, because even when he's well written, he's a backstabbing slimy weasel.

658
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,360
Who thought...I just don't get it.

659
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,360
Did you ever read the exact reasoning for why he stabbed Gelton the back?

660
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:04,360
I don't remember.

661
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,360
It was just to piss off Vlad.

662
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:07,360
Who was dead?

663
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:08,360
Oh my gosh, it's so bad.

664
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,360
And I don't know why people like End Times.

665
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:11,360
It was so awful.

666
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,360
Oh my gosh, it gets me on tilt so hard.

667
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,360
I'm going to end the world.

668
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,360
For no reason.

669
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,360
All I'm going to say, Eli, is my brother is a big fan of Star Trek.

670
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:27,360
And my brother and my brother's friends really enjoy the new Picard series and all that other trash.

671
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:33,360
It's like...sometimes a fandom just wants stuff.

672
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,360
And they don't care what the quality is.

673
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,360
They need some slop because we haven't had any slop in a while.

674
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,360
And they don't care.

675
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,360
Unfortunately, this slop ended all future slop.

676
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,360
The slop was full of poison, but they'll eat it up anyway.

677
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:48,360
That's all I can say.

678
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaking of someone who could almost...this is the big debate here.

679
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,360
Is this Erebus tier the next guy?

680
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,360
No, no way.

681
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:57,360
People love Nagash.

682
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,360
People freaking love Nagash.

683
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,360
But is he not technically the most hated?

684
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:04,360
In-universe he's hated.

685
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:05,360
In-universe, yeah.

686
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,360
Fanbase, I feel like most people really like Nagash.

687
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:08,360
Everyone loves him.

688
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,360
I think Collin's done a good job.

689
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,360
Collin's done a good job of Nagash propaganda.

690
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,360
Question, Collin.

691
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,360
Do people love Nagash more than Conrad?

692
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,360
You know, like the psychos who love Conrad.

693
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,360
Do people love Nagash more?

694
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,360
Like in-universe?

695
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:25,360
No, outside of universe.

696
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,360
Oh, I would say absolutely people love Nagash more than Conrad.

697
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,360
So does he go to the bottom of D tier then?

698
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,360
Because so many people love him.

699
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:33,360
Everyone loves Nagash.

700
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,360
He's like an epic bad guy.

701
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,360
There's a few people who just...

702
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:42,360
Because again, this guy has not...as much as other characters we put in here where it's like...

703
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,360
At some point they know what they're doing wrong.

704
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,360
Nagash doesn't have a moral compass.

705
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,360
The guy does not have a moral compass at all.

706
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,360
He's never once competed.

707
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:54,360
He's in the wrong.

708
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,360
He's the polar opposite of Erebus.

709
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,360
He's just funny. He's just funny.

710
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,360
He's just poised to him.

711
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:01,360
The thing is...

712
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,360
But Magnus tries to gaslight himself with the geese.

713
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,360
Yeah, but like Magnus, Mortari and blah blah blah.

714
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,360
They all make mistakes and then they have to cope.

715
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,360
Nagash makes no mistakes.

716
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,360
He doesn't care. He's always right, bro.

717
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,360
And everything he does is intentional.

718
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,360
And that's why he's a bit of a Chad.

719
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,360
Because it's like, no, I meant to do that.

720
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:20,360
Deal with it.

721
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,360
I still can't believe people would...

722
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,360
If someone said he was more hated,

723
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:29,360
they would put Nagash over Gabriel Angelos, surely, at some point.

724
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,360
I feel like there's at least some people who are a bit more...

725
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,360
Fuck me, Nagash.

726
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,360
A donation by Shane Bruh.

727
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:40,360
He says,

728
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,360
I hope all American viewers have a great Memorial Day weekend

729
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,360
and all the non-American viewers have a great normal weekend.

730
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,360
Was it for Boys Memorial Weekend?

731
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:50,360
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

732
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:51,360
It's like remembrance.

733
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,360
Yeah.

734
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,360
Ours is in November in the UK.

735
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,360
We've got Veterans Day around September, I think.

736
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,360
Uh-oh.

737
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,360
Uh-oh.

738
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,360
Oh, wait, we're back.

739
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,360
Andy, we can see you again.

740
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,360
We're so back.

741
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:10,360
Nice.

742
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:11,360
We can't hear you.

743
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,360
Okay, we'll have to keep it going then, boys.

744
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,360
Andy's tyranny has ended over the...

745
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,360
Over the tier list?

746
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:19,360
Oh, also...

747
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:20,360
No, because he...

748
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,360
$10 from Ron.

749
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,360
Again, thank you very much.

750
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:27,360
Is G.W. on the list due to poor writing?

751
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,360
Yes, G.W. is on the list.

752
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,360
Also, the only reason Dorn and Bang, this is like due to text...

753
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,360
Oh, the only reason they're liked is due to text-to-speech device.

754
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:36,360
That's also very true.

755
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,360
Also, Nagash deserves top.

756
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,360
Don't degrade him to the bottom of the list.

757
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,360
I mean, he would want to be on top of the most hated list.

758
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:45,360
That is very true.

759
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:46,360
Thank you for the $10.

760
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,360
Might just start speed running.

761
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:53,360
TTS makes people like a lot of characters just for TTS sake, I guess.

762
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:59,360
And I feel like that's maybe a reason why a lot of people hate Cato Sicarius is because of TTS.

763
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:03,360
Well, he was also the center of some Matt Ward level BS.

764
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,360
We need Matt Ward.

765
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:06,360
Matt Ward, save us.

766
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:07,360
Matt Ward, can you hear us?

767
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,360
Matt Ward, can you hear me?

768
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,360
Please help me, Matt Ward.

769
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:16,360
Every fashion needs a Matt Ward writing for them to just send them to the moon.

770
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:21,360
Next one, though, guys, is Lehman Russ.

771
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,360
I've always liked Lehman Russ.

772
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,360
But there's definitely a lot of people who don't for his...

773
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,360
Yeah, I feel like A tier, at least.

774
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:30,360
People hate on Space Wolves a lot.

775
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,360
He's the least favorite Primark, for sure.

776
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,360
Weren't we just talking about Rogal Dorn?

777
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,360
I mean, even he's a little bit better than Russ.

778
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:40,360
Really?

779
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:41,360
Just a little bit.

780
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,360
More people like Russ than Dorn and Comrade.

781
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:44,360
Russ is more stuffed than Dorn, surely.

782
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:45,360
Russ is a lot more...

783
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:50,360
I see Deterra kind of resurrected Dorn's image a little bit.

784
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:51,360
What?

785
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,360
Next one, though, is Magnus.

786
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,360
I do think Lehman Russ is cooler than Dorn.

787
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,360
Guy literally beats Horus.

788
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:02,360
Mr. Mihailov says Andy is Riverside's true man.

789
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,360
So true. Thank you for the two bugging.

790
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:09,360
New streaming software, boys. So soon.

791
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,360
Magnus the Red, S tier. God, I despise Magnus.

792
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:13,360
Yeah, I hate him.

793
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,360
He's such a dickhead.

794
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,360
He serves everything he got.

795
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,360
He's the kind of guy who just basically goes,

796
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,360
I'm not being rude, I'm just being honest.

797
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,360
And he thinks, was he like Schrodinger's douchebag?

798
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,360
Because he thinks he's being...

799
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:32,360
He's a very charismatic and nice individual

800
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,360
until you slightly disagree with him in any regard,

801
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,360
on any matter, and then he can ask.

802
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,360
Next one is Angron.

803
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:41,360
I got a spicy...

804
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,360
A lot of people kind of get annoyed at Angron

805
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,360
because he's somewhat a bit bland.

806
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,360
Oh, sorry, there's another donation.

807
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,360
Thank you. Thank you, bloody shirt music for $2.

808
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,360
Matt Warcher writes the 40k end times.

809
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,360
If there's anyone to do it, it should be him.

810
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,360
How to question your favorite Legion.

811
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,360
Oh, I missed that one.

812
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,360
I worked for Fabius by All Is Funny.

813
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:10,360
I just do like the Thousand Suns because they're interesting.

814
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,360
They seem like just...

815
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:18,360
They actually seem almost like legit soldiers in some books.

816
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,360
I think they are clearly space marines.

817
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:22,360
Angron is maybe seated.

818
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,360
I think people don't mind him that much.

819
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,360
I don't mind him. People do hate him, though.

820
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,360
People give him the perturabra treatment.

821
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:36,360
Yeah, there's been a few books that have done it a bit of justice.

822
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,360
Next is Eidolon.

823
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,360
Who doesn't hate Eidolon?

824
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,360
He's got a hamlet.

825
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,360
I love him on tabletop and stuff.

826
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,360
I think he's cool, but like...

827
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,360
He also gets no lore.

828
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,360
Your sword, my liege.

829
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,360
Is he in any 40k books yet?

830
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,360
I haven't read a single book.

831
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,360
I think he shows up in Fabius by All Book for like one second.

832
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,360
I think he's getting a book release, actually.

833
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,360
He might be part of the Emperor's Children release.

834
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,360
That'd be so awesome.

835
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,360
He's getting a new lore book.

836
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,360
Fighting-wise, he's actually goaded.

837
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:14,360
He's really cool, but character-wise, he's just a jerk.

838
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:18,360
And then he gets his head cut off by Fulgrim, which is kind of funny.

839
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,360
Next is Typhus, though.

840
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,360
I don't know.

841
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,360
I didn't read much of this guy until I...

842
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,360
You generally have to read books in this guy.

843
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,360
Otherwise, it just seems like who cares?

844
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,360
Maybe B.

845
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,360
He screws the Death Guard so hard, though.

846
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,360
It's all his fault.

847
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,360
He's the Eidolon of the Death Guard.

848
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,360
Next one is Teclis.

849
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,360
Put a baby in there, man.

850
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,360
I need to remove myself from this talk and conversation.

851
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,360
To be fair, where would you...

852
00:44:55,360 --> 00:45:00,360
He's one of my favorite characters, so I would put him in D tier, because I like Teclis a lot.

853
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,360
Even beyond the horrible things I say about him.

854
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,360
But I can't blame people for not liking him.

855
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,360
If I remember correctly from my fantasy days, he's the biggest dick in fantasy.

856
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,360
Or is that Tyrion?

857
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,360
No.

858
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,360
There's a passage...

859
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:21,360
I don't remember what book it's from, but Tyrion and Teclis are leading human soldiers through Lustria.

860
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,360
Is this End Times?

861
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,360
No, it's not.

862
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,360
Teclis is...

863
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:32,360
The standard elf thing is arrogant, humans live for two seconds, who gives a shit.

864
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,360
Teclis is like, they have short lives, but that's their lives, man.

865
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,360
It's the only one they got.

866
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:44,360
Then he's thinking, most elves probably would have let me die, because he was a sickly tuberculosis baby.

867
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,360
Because of the curse of an Aryan.

868
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,360
I can respect that.

869
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,360
Teclis is a really chill dude when he isn't being End Times writing it.

870
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,360
It's time to get Tyrion's daughter killed.

871
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,360
I guess that's where it was coming from.

872
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,360
Donation by Ovo 66 again.

873
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:02,360
It says, I thought that this is a list on how evil they are, not a popularity list.

874
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:07,360
If I went for popularity, then Disney villains were the actual heroes.

875
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,360
Worst one.

876
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:16,360
Teclis, his major issues in that regard are like Manfred, it's End Times writing.

877
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:21,360
But unlike Manfred, he's not an asshole all the time outside of the End Times.

878
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,360
So it's like, well...

879
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:29,360
I just think he's an alright guy, but he's on a few major dickhead moves.

880
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,360
Maybe C-tier.

881
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:36,360
He did also try and kill all of the Aedanath Deepkin for no wrong doing.

882
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:41,360
He was going to just get rid of all of them, because they weren't what he wanted.

883
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,360
Maybe move him up to C-tier.

884
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:49,360
For the most part, he's a cool dude, but every now and then something shines through, and it's like, what the fuck?

885
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:53,360
Why am I trying to power through the list?

886
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,360
He is also an elf.

887
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,360
Next one though...

888
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,360
Now, Colin again can't do the next one, because this one is Marathi.

889
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,360
And this was the only image I could find of Marathi that one.

890
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,360
Oh no, I can make out anything of that picture.

891
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:10,360
I'll even fully accept, put her in at least A-tier right now. She is a monster.

892
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,360
She's never nice or... yeah.

893
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,360
Truly disgusting.

894
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:26,360
She has sympathetic moments in the very early years of the Warhammer setting, chronologically within the universe.

895
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:31,360
Where she told Anarion she loved him, and he just turned around and left.

896
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:32,360
That's just sad.

897
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,360
Can you blame him?

898
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,360
I don't think she could love anything.

899
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,360
You cannot fix that woman.

900
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,360
She's bad for you, Colin, stop.

901
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:46,360
Then she caused probably about 80% of all wrong in the world.

902
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,360
You can probably trace back to Urban Malakith.

903
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,360
NeonElefGrey says, if John Grammaticus isn't S-tier, I write.

904
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,360
Honestly, John Grammaticus probably...

905
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:02,360
I don't think enough people, funnily enough, necessarily in the Warhammer community know who John Grammaticus is.

906
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,360
He's kind of a book exclusive character.

907
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,360
Or a heresy.

908
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,360
I'm pretty sure Warhammer Plus at least is functional, even if it sucks.

909
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,360
Yeah, for real.

910
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,360
Who is this next guy?

911
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,360
These are kind of more as compared together.

912
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:23,360
The one that's named Tibolt Ma, who's one of the Horus heresy characters, who basically ends up killing loads of nice, loyalist characters.

913
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,360
He's really like... he's not Arabist here.

914
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:31,360
But this guy basically just deserves a kick in the face.

915
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,360
Does he get killed by Sigismund in the Warhammer?

916
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:39,360
I think Garbiel Loken.

917
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:46,360
He's a bit of a background character that gets elevated to main character and then dies.

918
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:52,360
And he's gonna leave Minestir, because there's no way he feels any differently about it.

919
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:58,360
Little Horus Aximand, again, killed a few favorite characters.

920
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,360
He's my short king.

921
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,360
He's not like that well-despised.

922
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,360
I really wish he'd survived this Hegeterik.

923
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,360
He's quite... me too.

924
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:09,360
...coolish.

925
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,360
But he gets what he deserves.

926
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,360
And he's interesting at least though.

927
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:18,360
So I don't think you could say that much badly about him.

928
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,360
Next one though is Abaddon.

929
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:24,360
Abaddon is probably one of his S-tier, unfortunately.

930
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:25,360
Sorry, Abaddon.

931
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,360
I think he's unfortunately...

932
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:33,360
Read the Black Legion books and maybe you won't hate him as much, but until everyone else doesn't...

933
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,360
until the community actually reads a book, he will always be S-tier.

934
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,360
I think Abaddon does go S-tier, yeah.

935
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,360
It is also just partially not his fault.

936
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,360
It was just the nature of the setting prior to the Great Rift and Seventh.

937
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:51,360
Where the whole point was, we're like one second to midnight.

938
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:52,360
The end is coming.

939
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:57,360
It's just... we're freezing it in the snapshot right before it does.

940
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:02,360
And so he was internally for like 20 real-life years stuck at, about to blow up Kadia.

941
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,360
It's coming, for real. Any day now.

942
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:06,360
Which isn't his fault.

943
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,360
I think that was a feature of the setting.

944
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:15,360
Not like a downside, but it did end up making him look like a bit of a fool.

945
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,360
I don't think I can see the next one.

946
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,360
Shadow Sun, I think.

947
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,360
I think that's Shadow Sun, yeah.

948
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:27,360
Again, this one is just... the reason Shadow Sun is hated, because she's a bit of a nothing burger.

949
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:32,360
Yeah, yeah. I haven't read her new book though, so I don't know what's in it.

950
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:37,360
She has the personality of exactly what you'd think a stealthy character would.

951
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,360
She's kind of supposed to though.

952
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,360
She kind of just lives in the shadow of other Benek Tau characters.

953
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:47,360
I like how she out-stealth the Raven Guard. That makes me happy.

954
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:51,360
And she has some cool moments.

955
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:55,360
She 1v1s Jigutsu Kahn in Melee.

956
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,360
And she also...

957
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:58,360
Hibou Kahn.

958
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,360
Yeah, sorry, not Jigutsu Kahn.

959
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,360
The Space Marine, I don't remember his name.

960
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,360
It's the one who's on the playable walls.

961
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,360
The chapter master of the White Scars.

962
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,360
She 1v1s him in close combat.

963
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:16,360
And she also, mercy kills a White Scar instead of putting him in a dreadnought.

964
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,360
Because she knows what will happen to him.

965
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,360
So she's actually cool. She has her moments.

966
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:25,360
But she's a Tau, which makes automatically 50% of the community hates her.

967
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,360
Jubal Kahn, that's it.

968
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,360
It was Corso. It was totally Corso.

969
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:31,360
Yeah, yeah, okay.

970
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,360
And he just said he likes Jubal Kahn.

971
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:37,360
I put her in at least B tier just because she's a Tau.

972
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,360
So most people hate her.

973
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,360
She'll have hooves.

974
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:47,360
Alright, so she's Tau, so 50% of the 40k community hates her.

975
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:52,360
And she's a female, so that makes 15% of the Warhammer community hate her.

976
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,360
So...

977
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:58,360
64, 65.

978
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,360
I put her in. I'd honestly put her in.

979
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,360
What is happening? What is Annie doing?

980
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,360
I'm sure Annie would put her in S for Venus.

981
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,360
She's doing something.

982
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:13,360
Oh yeah, see I knew it. I knew it.

983
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,360
She has good moments with the Space Marines though.

984
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:20,360
Like the Corsaro actually respects her as an opponent and stuff.

985
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,360
Okay, if the White Scar is like her, then you should like her too, Andy.

986
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:24,360
Just saying.

987
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,360
That's true, the White Scar said she's doing alright.

988
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,360
Next one though is Bellacor.

989
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:30,360
I want to read the Bellacor.

990
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,360
This guy can't catch a break.

991
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,360
He's too pathetic to be hated.

992
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,360
He doesn't do anything.

993
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,360
Does he ever take a W?

994
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,360
No, I mean he's the first.

995
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,360
He's got a sick model.

996
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,360
Ever chosen or whatever, isn't he?

997
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:49,360
No, he was originally the only Demon Prince.

998
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:53,360
And then before realized, wait, we can make more of these.

999
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,360
We can make our own ones.

1000
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:56,360
Yeah.

1001
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,360
So Zinch, because Bellacor was getting uppity about it.

1002
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,360
Who the hell says woman tier?

1003
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,360
This is why you have no Riz.

1004
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,360
Jesus Christ, boys.

1005
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,360
Next one is Archeon.

1006
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:13,360
I think he's more hated in-universe.

1007
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,360
There's a bit I do kind of hate about Archeon, which is the whole,

1008
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:21,360
I don't like being told my destiny is so I'm going to follow my destiny.

1009
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,360
I actually don't understand that plot line.

1010
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,360
I think it depends.

1011
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:31,360
I think it used to be like he was trying to do the theory that if he killed everyone ever,

1012
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,360
chaos would starve.

1013
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:37,360
Unfortunately, as it turns out, fantasy is a multiverse,

1014
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,360
so they can just put him somewhere else to hang out for a bit.

1015
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:44,360
I think he probably would have been liked a lot if it weren't for End Times,

1016
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,360
and then he'd beat everyone.

1017
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:50,360
Yeah, if this was 2015, he'd be right next to Manfred.

1018
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:54,360
But he has cool moments.

1019
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:55,360
I mean, I think he's...

1020
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:56,360
CJP sent him.

1021
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,360
I like him more than Abaddon.

1022
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,360
Yeah, I like him, and he's got a cool model,

1023
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,360
and it looks cool in Sigmar and all of that.

1024
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,360
But some people just don't like him.

1025
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,360
I think his...

1026
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,360
I read this online.

1027
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:13,360
Someone was theorizing, so take it with a massive grain of salt.

1028
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,360
I think the idea was now he's trying to use chaos as a tool.

1029
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,360
It's like, look, we kind of have to embrace it,

1030
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:22,360
because clearly they've shown they can end the world once,

1031
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:23,360
might do it again.

1032
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,360
So now it's like a...

1033
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,360
Don't...

1034
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:31,360
Because he is undivided, and he's arguably almost a god now,

1035
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:37,360
so he's trying to go a little bit of a different route than just chaos,

1036
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:41,360
but he is still one of the guys who blew up the world,

1037
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,360
and he can be a little bit boring.

1038
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:49,360
And he says, Archaeon-sash-Abaddon build.

1039
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,360
The next one, though, is not a character,

1040
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,360
but it's an entire chapter, which is the Marines of Malevolent.

1041
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,360
I love the Marines of Malevolent so much.

1042
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:57,360
Yes, I do.

1043
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,360
They are, in fact, the worst thing that's ever existed in the Eurim.

1044
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,360
This guy likes the Iron Warriors, but hates the Marines of Malevolent.

1045
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,360
I don't think so, buddy.

1046
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,360
I don't think so. The Marines of Malevolent are awesome.

1047
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,360
The Salamanders had it right. Punch in the face.

1048
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:16,360
I mean, it is mostly due to Dreadanon's videos,

1049
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:20,360
that I like the Marines of Malevolent now, but I still love them.

1050
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:21,360
And their colour scheme goes hard.

1051
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,360
They are rightly despised.

1052
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,360
Yeah, but I like them.

1053
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,360
It doesn't matter. They are hated. They are hated.

1054
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,360
Not by everyone, though.

1055
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,360
Colin, do you even...

1056
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,360
These are the heroes you wish to die for, surely.

1057
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,360
The Marines of Malevolent?

1058
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,360
Their whole point is that they're supposed to be hated.

1059
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,360
GW put out, when they had opened their 500 store,

1060
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,360
they had this bit like 500 facts for 500 stores.

1061
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:52,360
It's like kind of goofy community posts they made.

1062
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,360
I think it was like number 28,

1063
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,360
the Marines of Malevolent are just the worst.

1064
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,360
Like their mission statement is,

1065
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,360
make something that is just awesome.

1066
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:03,360
I love these guys.

1067
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,360
They succeeded. They are the worst.

1068
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,360
They just target civilians because why not?

1069
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,360
Jesus Christ.

1070
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,360
Next one is Asterion Moloch.

1071
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,360
Mr. Come Steal Your Artifacts.

1072
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,360
I can't blame people for hating this guy.

1073
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:21,360
He's just like somebody's OC put into real Warhammer writing.

1074
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,360
Yeah, it's a bit of someone's...

1075
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,360
It is very much like, oh, I'm overpowered.

1076
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:31,360
I brought my previous character from my previous D&D campaign.

1077
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,360
He sure is cool.

1078
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,360
But he...

1079
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:40,360
He's cool in a way that it's cool when he takes something he wrote as a child

1080
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,360
and pop it or something.

1081
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:46,360
He is Mr. Everything Proof Shield with the fucking custodians.

1082
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,360
I still love him, though, because he's just cool.

1083
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,360
He's cool. Cringe. Yeah, I agree, Andy.

1084
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:55,360
I like him. He's a respectable cringe.

1085
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,360
And he looks so freaking cool.

1086
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,360
He does. He looks sick.

1087
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,360
Next one is Huron Blackheart.

1088
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,360
I love this man.

1089
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,360
He's better than Abaddon.

1090
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,360
He's the Abaddon with seasoning.

1091
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,360
Yeah, well...

1092
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,360
He's well written, Abaddon. Okay, alright, okay.

1093
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:17,360
I love Huron.

1094
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,360
And his model's still so cool.

1095
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:24,360
I feel like people don't really hate Huron, do they?

1096
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,360
I think he's a hated character, technically.

1097
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,360
He just like...

1098
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,360
Particularly on Pyrrhus, I just very much like...

1099
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,360
I wish this guy actually had a proper novel series rather than campaign books,

1100
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,360
because he's so good.

1101
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,360
He just has one-off books.

1102
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:43,360
Maybe DT then for him. Maybe DT, just because actually he's not despised.

1103
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,360
White Scars fans probably hate him.

1104
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,360
Is that Trazen?

1105
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,360
There's Trazen and Orokin.

1106
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:53,360
Technically in-universe, they are both despised by their own factions.

1107
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,360
I think Orokin's kind of a jerk.

1108
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,360
The Necrons hate them.

1109
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,360
I think Orokin's kind of a jerk.

1110
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,360
I don't really like Orokin.

1111
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,360
I think Orokin eventually...

1112
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,360
He's fine, but I don't like him.

1113
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:09,360
When he eventually realises what his end goal is, when he briefly achieves it,

1114
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:13,360
and it would turn me basically into a pseudo-guitarn like them.

1115
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:17,360
But he's still gonna go try and do that and turn the Necrons into energy.

1116
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,360
They're like...

1117
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,360
One of the whole points of Infant Divine is that their opposite ends.

1118
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,360
Like, Trazen's obsessed with their past.

1119
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,360
Orokin is only obsessed with the future.

1120
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:32,360
Trazen though, my god, he's hated by everyone in his museum.

1121
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,360
No doubt.

1122
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,360
Not the community. The community hate loves him though.

1123
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,360
He's Trazen.

1124
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:42,360
I don't think he's the frickin' God's gift to mankind,

1125
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,360
but everyone else seems to, so I don't really care.

1126
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,360
I'll be honest, I'm one of those. I love Trazen.

1127
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,360
I know you are. I know you are.

1128
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,360
His bits in Battlefleet Gothiker is like, ah...

1129
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:57,360
As a Necrons enjoyer, I think the other Necrons are cooler personally,

1130
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,360
but I do like Trazen.

1131
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,360
He's the flavor you enjoy.

1132
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,360
I don't know.

1133
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:07,360
I think he's a little bit too silly nowadays, but...

1134
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,360
I love that.

1135
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,360
He's just a little goofball.

1136
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,360
Truly Orokin's face looking like a boss.

1137
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,360
You'll randomly abduct people and bring them to the museum

1138
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:20,360
and complain that they're too busy screaming for him to lecture them.

1139
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,360
I'm on my knees for Trazen, bro.

1140
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,360
Okay.

1141
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,360
What's the next one there?

1142
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,360
Oh, Goj Van Dyar.

1143
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,360
Goj Van Dyar.

1144
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,360
Goj the Go?

1145
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,360
What's known as Doj Van Dyar.

1146
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,360
From Age of Apostasy.

1147
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,360
I haven't read the book with the Age of Apostasy.

1148
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,360
Is there a book or is it just like...

1149
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,360
It's not a book.

1150
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,360
Yet.

1151
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:49,360
So when we're done with the new 500 scouring novels, maybe we'll get that.

1152
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,360
Wonderful.

1153
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,360
I'm not going to read a single one of those freaking books, dude.

1154
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,360
Too fair though.

1155
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,360
This guy...

1156
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,360
He's pretty much just like...

1157
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,360
There's not a single person who likes him, surely.

1158
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,360
God, it felt so good.

1159
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,360
I was being edged when he wasn't dying.

1160
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,360
When he finally hit it though.

1161
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,360
That was the release.

1162
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,360
We have the Sisters of Battle because of him though, right?

1163
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,360
That is the right one that I'm thinking of?

1164
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,360
Well, that's not because of him.

1165
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,360
In spite of him.

1166
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,360
It was kind of because of him.

1167
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,360
He's the one who formed them into a military organization.

1168
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,360
He's kind of an Arabus, yeah.

1169
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,360
I agree.

1170
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,360
It formed after him because of his death and they said no men could.

1171
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,360
Yeah, but that whole...

1172
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:34,360
It came about because the brides of the emperor from the planet he took with him

1173
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,360
were so fucking dug in and good at fighting

1174
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,360
that the imperial fist couldn't get them out.

1175
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,360
Mm-hmm.

1176
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,360
Damn.

1177
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,360
I think, yeah, he's...

1178
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,360
He's cool.

1179
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,360
He does belong in...

1180
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,360
He's maybe not the most hated, but he is pretty much just...

1181
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,360
Fuck that guy.

1182
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,360
Am I allowed to say Joseph Smith?

1183
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,360
Is that rude to say on the internet?

1184
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,360
Can I compare it to Gojvan Dyer and Joseph Smith?

1185
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,360
Is that gonna give me trouble?

1186
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,360
Am I thinking of like, is that the guy from Occult?

1187
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,360
Wow, you guys...

1188
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,360
Joseph Smith is the founder of...

1189
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,360
Oh, the founder of the Mormon Church.

1190
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,360
Bruh.

1191
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,360
Sorry to anyone who's Mormon in a chair.

1192
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,360
Is he influenced by...

1193
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,360
I mean, there's no Golba's bit.

1194
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,360
Only a bit or two on the nose.

1195
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:24,360
I don't think Gojvan Dyer ever found sacred golden plates in the middle of the fucking Nevada desert.

1196
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:30,360
Or translated certain Egyptian funerary texts.

1197
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:34,360
Listen, the Cthulhu Mythos book is a very ancient...

1198
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:38,360
Sorry, the Necronomicon is a very sacred book, Eli.

1199
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,360
Don't you dare disrespect it.

1200
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:44,360
Fabius Bial.

1201
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,360
Fabius Bial.

1202
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,360
My man truly...

1203
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,360
He's such a good character. Man, I hate him, though.

1204
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,360
Oh my gosh, I freaking hate him.

1205
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,360
I love him, but I hate him.

1206
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,360
He ruined everything.

1207
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,360
He's awful.

1208
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:02,360
But you would...

1209
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:06,360
Anything, any more material about it, you would devour, because it's good.

1210
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,360
I'd work for him.

1211
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,360
No, you wouldn't.

1212
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:20,360
He's better than Fulgrim nowadays, but also he could have brought us Emperor's children back, and then he just decided not to instead.

1213
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,360
That's a GW move.

1214
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,360
But it was because he's prideful and wanted to do his own thing.

1215
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,360
He didn't want the Legion to be a thing.

1216
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:34,360
He wanted Men to be the next thing, because his work is too important for the Emperor's children to be united.

1217
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,360
God, he's still a pity on that guy.

1218
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:44,360
But also, they just didn't want to have clone Fulgrim be in the plotline.

1219
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,360
To be fair, at least it was there, though.

1220
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:50,360
It's always there, just if they wanted to do something with it.

1221
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:54,360
If they do 40k end times, then they'll bring him back, and then we won't have 40k one year later.

1222
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:58,360
I just need that clone Fulgrim to die to the real Fulgrim.

1223
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,360
Because that's the only way we'll see him.

1224
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,360
I don't want that.

1225
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,360
The next one, though, is Illuminor Zeras.

1226
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,360
This guy.

1227
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,360
Generic mads.

1228
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,360
He's just a magic mad scientist.

1229
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,360
He's literally just generic mad scientist.

1230
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:14,360
Everyone in the universe hates this guy, though.

1231
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:18,360
This guy, even the other Necrons, despises this guy.

1232
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,360
He is abominable.

1233
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,360
He hates it.

1234
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:28,360
But his model being so cool makes me jealous and sad that we don't have cool models for the other Necrons.

1235
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,360
But he's...

1236
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:38,360
I wish with Trazen's model, you could have a thing where you could bring in allied units that are like a battle line from other things.

1237
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,360
That would be fun.

1238
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,360
That would be a really cool way to do it, though.

1239
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,360
Just like one unit.

1240
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,360
You can bring in one battle line unit from another faction.

1241
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:56,360
I like the way Port Hammer said it, which is it would be completely broken, but you can only have 500 points of Necrons and everything else has to meet some other thing.

1242
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:58,360
He's just thrown out there.

1243
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,360
That'd be funny.

1244
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,360
Bring out Horus Heresy models as well.

1245
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,360
I don't know if anyone hates Illuminor Zeras, though, because he doesn't have any book.

1246
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,360
He's got the Emotech issue where he has almost no lore.

1247
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:08,360
He's in the animation.

1248
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,360
He's in the Blackstone Fortress stuff.

1249
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,360
But that's pretty much it.

1250
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,360
Oh, Crimson Glory, thank you, brother.

1251
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,360
He says, I'm late because of Astartes Anonymous.

1252
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,360
Colin, you are the king of degenerates.

1253
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,360
And thank you for the gelt bit.

1254
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,360
I was crying from the eyes.

1255
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,360
Nice.

1256
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,360
I actually need to go have a look at the thumbnail for Astartes Anonymous.

1257
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,360
Because they cook with those.

1258
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,360
I was going to vote for Gilman.

1259
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:32,360
Yeah, he is in Parion Nexus.

1260
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:34,360
That's true.

1261
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,360
I haven't seen Parion Nexus.

1262
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,360
I'm back in Port.

1263
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,360
I'm back in Port.

1264
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,360
I'm back in Port.

1265
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,360
I haven't seen Parion Nexus.

1266
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,360
I'm back in Port.

1267
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,360
What is that?

1268
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,360
Is that Sigmar versus Emperor?

1269
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,360
They're both oiled up, shirtless, and ready to go.

1270
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,360
Way to go.

1271
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,360
The next one, though, is

1272
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,360
Harman.

1273
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:00,360
Next one is Azek Harman.

1274
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,360
I wish I've read more of his books.

1275
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,360
He's not Estir's bro.

1276
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:08,360
He's actually like, the thing is, he's not in a book where he's written poorly.

1277
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,360
He's done his job.

1278
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,360
Bro.

1279
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,360
Every book he's been in

1280
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,360
is good, though.

1281
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:18,360
As in, the parts which focus on him.

1282
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,360
He's a very deeply flawed character.

1283
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,360
And you cannot do that motion.

1284
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,360
We can talk about White Scars right now, bro.

1285
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,360
I rate for Harman.

1286
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,360
Because Harman's only flaw

1287
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:30,360
is he just doesn't give up.

1288
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,360
And his version of

1289
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,360
doesn't giving up is, I will save my brothers.

1290
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,360
Even if I had to

1291
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,360
step over an entire orphanage to do it.

1292
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,360
Yeah, I like that.

1293
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:42,360
He's not like a fully

1294
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,360
full on, I'm evil

1295
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:46,360
because I'm like, just because I'm downright evil.

1296
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:48,360
He does

1297
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,360
evil things because he has to like

1298
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,360
try and justify it in his own mind.

1299
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,360
I hope that he gets

1300
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,360
a new book, and it's 99%

1301
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,360
the best Warhammer book

1302
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,360
ever written.

1303
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,360
Undeniably, it's a phenomenal book.

1304
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,360
It's beautiful. And then the last

1305
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,360
pages he gets the Black Library and Kegret

1306
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,360
Ketsum in the nuts and like

1307
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,360
will be pushing someone and just throw some little warps.

1308
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,360
We should have put the Harlequins on this list. People hate

1309
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:14,360
the Harlequins, dude.

1310
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,360
Yeah, man.

1311
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:18,360
Harman is not S tier.

1312
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,360
Top of S tier hated

1313
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,360
character. No, I don't agree with that either.

1314
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:24,360
No, he's like B tier.

1315
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,360
I don't think anyone hates Harman. There are people who just don't

1316
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:28,360
know much about him

1317
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,360
or people who actually read the stuff and they like him.

1318
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,360
I'd say put him B.

1319
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:34,360
Yeah. B?

1320
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,360
There are reasons to not like him.

1321
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,360
There are plenty of people who don't like Harman.

1322
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,360
He is the

1323
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,360
Magnus 2.0 with the same arrogance.

1324
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:44,360
He's the Thousand Sun. I know what I'm doing. I can do

1325
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,360
this right. Thousand Suns are like the Eldar

1326
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,360
of Space Marines.

1327
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:50,360
Half the people just hate them.

1328
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:52,360
At least we get books, though.

1329
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:54,360
Yeah, yeah.

1330
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,360
Sit down.

1331
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:58,360
Next one, though, is my

1332
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,360
Papa Zinch.

1333
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:02,360
You could put all of them in S tier, except for

1334
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,360
the one who gets Erebus tier.

1335
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,360
Okay, okay. Calm down.

1336
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,360
I feel like Zinch is probably one of the more

1337
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,360
hated ones.

1338
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,360
Because it's like, it's always part of my

1339
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:14,360
plan. It's always part of my plan.

1340
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:16,360
Yeah, bro, Zinch knows everything. Oh, you're a source?

1341
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:18,360
Oh, this Zinch demon told me.

1342
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,360
I don't think people hate Nurgle

1343
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:22,360
as much because Nurgle gets

1344
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,360
quite like... People think Nurgle

1345
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,360
is actually nice for some unknown

1346
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,360
reason. Also, Nurgle is really

1347
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,360
freaking on the like tabletop design.

1348
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:32,360
I think Nurgle is so lame nowadays. He's just

1349
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:34,360
a goofy cartoon of

1350
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:36,360
a chaos god.

1351
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:38,360
I don't like it.

1352
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:40,360
I even don't like

1353
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,360
the Death Guard models. I'm sorry.

1354
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:44,360
I just think it all looks bad.

1355
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:46,360
And silly.

1356
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:48,360
I mean, I thought about making

1357
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:50,360
a thousand point Death Guard army.

1358
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:52,360
And I very much thought

1359
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:54,360
like, man, I need to like spice

1360
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,360
them up a little bit. Yeah.

1361
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,360
But particularly other factions like Kornate stuff.

1362
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:00,360
Like the World Eater models.

1363
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,360
For like just the basic ones.

1364
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,360
Everything is looking pretty damn

1365
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,360
like nice.

1366
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:08,360
And Kornate demons look really cool.

1367
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,360
Kornate demons look cool. Zinch demons look cool.

1368
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,360
Slash demons look cool. Nurgle demons.

1369
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,360
The old ones look cool, but the

1370
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:16,360
new ones are just so freaking goofy.

1371
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,360
Like...

1372
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:20,360
There's the demon

1373
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:22,360
they fight in the

1374
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:24,360
Dark Imperium suit. The first book

1375
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,360
called Quarameyer.

1376
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:28,360
And it's described as like a dragon

1377
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:30,360
that constantly ages and

1378
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:32,360
de-ages. So it switches from like new

1379
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,360
flesh to like old

1380
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,360
withered stuff. And it's like constantly doing that.

1381
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,360
It literally describes like a dragon demon.

1382
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:40,360
And there are like some other...

1383
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,360
There's another demon of Nurgle I think, which is like

1384
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:44,360
it's described like insanely tall.

1385
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,360
And it's basically like just gaunt bones.

1386
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:48,360
And it like just clicks and

1387
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:50,360
clacks along. So there are some like

1388
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:52,360
really cool demons in the Nurgle stuff.

1389
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:54,360
In the books he's cool. Yeah. In the books Nurgle is fine.

1390
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:56,360
He does get overused I feel like.

1391
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,360
I feel like Nurgle is like the go-to

1392
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:00,360
chaos god in most stories. It's the safe option, isn't it?

1393
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,360
Yeah. It's the safe option.

1394
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,360
A lot of time. I don't hate Nurgle

1395
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:06,360
himself, but Tabletop I do hate them.

1396
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:08,360
Lore I don't mind.

1397
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:10,360
I think I'd even argue at this point then.

1398
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:12,360
Technically Nurgle is more hated because it's overused.

1399
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,360
So people are sick of it.

1400
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:18,360
Maybe A-tier.

1401
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:20,360
I have... People don't really hate

1402
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,360
Nurgle though.

1403
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:24,360
Most people love Nurgle.

1404
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:26,360
All everyone thinks he's super nice.

1405
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:28,360
Korn is...

1406
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:30,360
Yeah. He's 50.

1407
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:32,360
I haven't met somebody who doesn't like Korn other than

1408
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:34,360
Colin to be fair. I'm not the biggest fan.

1409
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,360
I think Colin is just really loud about it.

1410
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:38,360
I'm Korn.

1411
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:40,360
The Korn one is

1412
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:42,360
the Korn one is missing a dimension

1413
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:44,360
the other ones have.

1414
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,360
Yeah, but he's nice and simple.

1415
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:48,360
You get what you're looking for. I think Colin's even said

1416
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:50,360
that before.

1417
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:52,360
There's no lies being told with Korn.

1418
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:54,360
You want to...

1419
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:56,360
Throne is trashed.

1420
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:58,360
Blood pact is really cool.

1421
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:00,360
I like Korn.

1422
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,360
I think Korn's fine.

1423
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,360
I don't think people hate Slenesh.

1424
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,360
She gets a lot of hate for cringe reasons

1425
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,360
because nobody actually knows anything about her.

1426
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:10,360
She gets hate from GW.

1427
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,360
Sex. Eli, sex.

1428
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,360
Tell me

1429
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:16,360
you haven't read a single Warhammer

1430
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:18,360
book without telling me you haven't read a single Warhammer

1431
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,360
book.

1432
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,360
Did you just read the Warhammer book before

1433
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,360
marriage? Disgusting.

1434
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:26,360
And also

1435
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:28,360
the guy who does those freaking stupid comics

1436
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:32,360
he's probably a big reason why people

1437
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:34,360
think Slenesh is freaking lame.

1438
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,360
Oh my gosh.

1439
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:38,360
I think there's a lot of guys.

1440
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,360
Anyone who makes art of

1441
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:42,360
Slenesh.

1442
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:44,360
I won't even

1443
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:46,360
talk about it.

1444
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:48,360
That's the

1445
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,360
hatred tier list.

1446
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:52,360
I mean

1447
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:54,360
Erebus and Manfred.

1448
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,360
They earned it. They truly

1449
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:58,360
are the worst.

1450
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:00,360
Kibandas Mighty Schlong, thank you

1451
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:02,360
once again for the donation.

1452
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:04,360
Your produce is

1453
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:06,360
safer now, Colin.

1454
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:10,360
That's good to hear.

1455
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:12,360
CrescentGlory says Korn is top of S tier.

1456
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:14,360
Go to the gym, eat healthy,

1457
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,360
get some sleep, collect skulls and keep

1458
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:18,360
the nails from biting.

1459
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:20,360
All the things you just said in that

1460
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:22,360
sentence would make

1461
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:24,360
r slash 40k hate you to be fair.

1462
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:26,360
So I mean maybe he is

1463
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:28,360
a higher up there.

1464
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,360
Is there a subreddit called

1465
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,360
something

1466
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:34,360
Sigmarsism?

1467
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:36,360
That's the cesspit of humanity, dude.

1468
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:38,360
Is there like another one which is like the opposite

1469
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,360
of that? Yeah there is. It's like Horus

1470
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:42,360
something. It came about recently.

1471
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:44,360
Oh my gosh.

1472
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,360
What do they do? Well they have a list

1473
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:48,360
of, it's like

1474
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:50,360
red, green, orange of like

1475
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:52,360
Woke Not Woke

1476
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:54,360
You to our channels.

1477
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:56,360
So you know, they're the other end.

1478
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:58,360
Wait are we on the list?

1479
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:00,360
I don't know. Put that kumdump in history.

1480
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:02,360
Let me see if I can find it. Thank you Kibanda.

1481
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:04,360
Yeah, slash probably isn't D tier but

1482
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:06,360
you know it's over. We gotta slash W.

1483
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:08,360
I'm taking it. If you want to hear

1484
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:10,360
my political opinion, there's only one thing that's

1485
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:12,360
really popping off in my local area

1486
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:14,360
which is the bus routes. I won't lie.

1487
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:16,360
Every single, there's nothing happening

1488
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:18,360
where I live and the only thing

1489
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:20,360
that every single political

1490
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:22,360
party is put on our thing is

1491
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,360
we're really passionate about bus

1492
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:26,360
routes.

1493
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:28,360
That's the end of like

1494
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:30,360
politics for today. There's literally

1495
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,360
nothing else going on.

1496
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:34,360
The bus routes

1497
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:36,360
will be kept secure. Bro,

1498
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,360
no, because the bus routes used to be better

1499
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:40,360
and they used to go through like each different

1500
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:42,360
area and now they're kind of

1501
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,360
they've all, like the bus routes have been

1502
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:46,360
changed. Some of them have been taken off

1503
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,360
completely. You Europeans have no idea

1504
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:50,360
how good you have it with your public

1505
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:52,360
transport. I can also walk to my

1506
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:54,360
town center in 30 minutes.

1507
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,360
We live in centralized city hell and

1508
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:58,360
it takes you two hours to get to

1509
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:00,360
the other side of my city which is a 10 minute

1510
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:02,360
drive.

1511
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:04,360
Don't tell me what bad bus is. How don't you

1512
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:06,360
live in Yaha Gul? No.

1513
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,360
This is not bad.

1514
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:10,360
Colin likes elves more than insulin.

1515
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:12,360
That's a bold statement.

1516
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:14,360
You know, that's

1517
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,360
a hard one. I do quite like living

1518
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:18,360
so.

1519
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:20,360
Alright brothers, this is the, hopefully as long as

1520
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:22,360
Riverside will keep going, we'll keep

1521
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:24,360
this one going. Next one is

1522
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:26,360
just a quick little cheeky Star

1523
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:28,360
Wars tier list. This is just media,

1524
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:30,360
some games,

1525
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:32,360
TV and

1526
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:34,360
some films. Some of these

1527
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:36,360
I'm not gonna lie, Star Wars

1528
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:38,360
is fallen off recently but there's

1529
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:40,360
some nostalgia probably strong

1530
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:42,360
for some of these things. First one

1531
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:44,360
though is at episode 9.

1532
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:46,360
Is that episode 9? Oh you just put

1533
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:48,360
Rise of Skywalker. Yeah, it's bad.

1534
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:50,360
Can we put just 9 and 8?

1535
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:52,360
Yeah.

1536
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:54,360
8 goes even below, like

1537
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:56,360
8 is even further down.

1538
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:58,360
Should we do a bit of a restart

1539
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:00,360
so Andy can participate?

1540
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:02,360
I think the stream

1541
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:04,360
might blow up then.

1542
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,360
We could just keep

1543
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:12,360
episode 8 could just stay off the

1544
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:14,360
tier list. It's not even worthy of being

1545
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:16,360
on it in the first place. Maybe only

1546
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:18,360
episode 8 goes into

1547
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:20,360
dock shit tier list and then

1548
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,360
episode 9, because it's not 8, goes

1549
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:24,360
into D.

1550
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,360
And he's not having any.

1551
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:28,360
Chris and Gloria says, when an entire country

1552
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:30,360
brackets Britain as the size of a state,

1553
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:32,360
public transportation is easier

1554
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:34,360
to do. I mean, but to be fair, we've got

1555
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:36,360
70ish nearly million

1556
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:38,360
people in one state.

1557
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:40,360
And remember a lot of the UK

1558
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:42,360
is spread out. Like it's not as

1559
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:44,360
centralized apart from London obviously.

1560
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:46,360
Alberta is like the size

1561
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:48,360
of most European countries and we have

1562
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:50,360
like, I don't know, 3 million people.

1563
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:52,360
Yeah, it's empty. Awesome.

1564
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:54,360
Isn't it? Yep.

1565
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:56,360
I never played these games.

1566
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:58,360
Force Unleashed Est.

1567
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:00,360
This is actually the best one.

1568
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:02,360
The thing is that Colin, did you play this?

1569
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:04,360
What console did you play on?

1570
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:06,360
Xbox.

1571
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:08,360
I played this.

1572
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:10,360
Golf for Bid on the Nintendo Wii.

1573
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:12,360
And there are different missions.

1574
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,360
It's like a controller input thing

1575
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:16,360
you put into the Wii remote.

1576
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:18,360
There are different, the

1577
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:20,360
starter mission is different

1578
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:22,360
on the Nintendo Wii.

1579
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:24,360
What is it? It's

1580
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:26,360
Kashyyyk, but it's nighttime.

1581
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:28,360
I didn't even realize there were

1582
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:30,360
different missions at the beginning.

1583
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:32,360
I think there's a couple other ones too that are

1584
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,360
just for some reason different. Although some

1585
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:36,360
of that I'm sure is probably because the Wii U had

1586
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:38,360
the processing power of like

1587
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:40,360
a fucking rock.

1588
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:44,360
I wrote up

1589
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:46,360
gang signs down there.

1590
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:48,360
This game was good

1591
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:50,360
just because I remember, I don't know what

1592
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:52,360
the power it was, but the one where you could literally turn yourself

1593
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:54,360
into like a black hole.

1594
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:56,360
Oh yeah.

1595
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:58,360
That was fun.

1596
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:00,360
This one is Yanden.

1597
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:02,360
Book of Boba Fett.

1598
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:04,360
This one was weird.

1599
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:06,360
It's not dog shit.

1600
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:08,360
But it was very...

1601
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:10,360
It's just a nothing burger.

1602
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:12,360
I felt like someone wrote this who maybe

1603
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:14,360
like saw

1604
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:16,360
Star Wars once.

1605
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:18,360
Andy, listen, I can tell that you're not

1606
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:20,360
happy with the fucking...

1607
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:22,360
Jesus.

1608
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:24,360
I'm really not pleased with Hear Me Out.

1609
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:26,360
But like the five scenes Cad Bane

1610
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:28,360
is in it are fucking

1611
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:30,360
wonderful scenes. That's all I saw

1612
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:32,360
is like one of those scenes.

1613
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:34,360
I love me Cad Bane. The fact that you needed

1614
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:36,360
to watch a deleted scene to get

1615
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:38,360
context. It wasn't a deleted scene.

1616
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:40,360
He's in the show. No, there's like a bit

1617
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:42,360
of a like, explains like, oh

1618
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:44,360
it was gonna be in like the animated show

1619
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,360
about how they parted ways or something

1620
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:48,360
like...

1621
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:50,360
Sparkle's not a dog shit.

1622
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:52,360
It's not dog shit.

1623
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:54,360
It can't be as bad as episode 9,

1624
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:56,360
can it?

1625
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:58,360
Look at what we're dealing

1626
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:00,360
with. It's not episode 9 or episode 8.

1627
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:02,360
It was really mid though.

1628
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:04,360
Really mid. Mid

1629
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:06,360
is not bad. Like, yeah, it was boring

1630
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,360
and why did it exist?

1631
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:10,360
I couldn't put it in C though.

1632
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:12,360
Another new tier.

1633
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:16,360
And he's got passionate

1634
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:20,360
opinions about this.

1635
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:22,360
What's this next one? Is it episode 2?

1636
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:24,360
I can't tell.

1637
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:26,360
He's trying to do something.

1638
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:28,360
I think that Star Wars, is that the

1639
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:30,360
original Clone Wars animation one?

1640
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:32,360
Oh, is it?

1641
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:34,360
Oh yeah, that peak

1642
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:36,360
last year. That one was actually really

1643
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:38,360
damn cool. I've only seen clips

1644
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:40,360
but it looks so awesome. Shout out to the

1645
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:42,360
General Grievous team that made

1646
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:44,360
me scared. The only thing that did General Grievous

1647
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:46,360
good.

1648
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:48,360
Literally the only thing he's cool about.

1649
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:50,360
He gets so cucked by writing

1650
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:52,360
and every other...oh man.

1651
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:54,360
Dude, he showed up and was just like

1652
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:56,360
oh, we had 5 Jedi. We had...

1653
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:58,360
He was cool in some moments in Clone Wars

1654
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:00,360
to be fair. But in episode

1655
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:02,360
3, oh my baby

1656
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:04,360
boy Grievous, my poor baby

1657
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:06,360
boy.

1658
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:08,360
The next two are...I would almost put

1659
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:10,360
these two together because they're kind of just as

1660
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:12,360
good as each other. Jedi Survivor

1661
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:14,360
and the other one.

1662
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:16,360
I haven't played them.

1663
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:18,360
I think the second one is a little bit

1664
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:20,360
just because there's that Darth Vader scene in the

1665
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:22,360
first one. The second one I think

1666
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:24,360
was a bit too long winded.

1667
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:26,360
The second one, I...granted

1668
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:28,360
again, not having played it, all I really knew about it was

1669
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:30,360
initially on launch it had such memory

1670
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:32,360
issues that you could have a

1671
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:34,360
$50,000 PC and you couldn't run

1672
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:36,360
the damn thing.

1673
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:38,360
It would just eat your computer.

1674
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:40,360
The next

1675
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:42,360
one is Force Unleashed 2.

1676
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:44,360
Now this one was pretty...

1677
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:46,360
It wasn't as good as the first one I wouldn't

1678
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:48,360
say but it's pretty

1679
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:50,360
coded. Honestly just put it

1680
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:52,360
right below the Force Unleashed 1 in A tier

1681
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:54,360
because Force Unleashed

1682
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:56,360
but again, which you know, I liked

1683
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:58,360
Force Unleashed, more Force Unleashed.

1684
01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:00,360
It was a bit short though.

1685
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:02,360
It was very short.

1686
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:04,360
Especially compared to the...

1687
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:06,360
Neither of them are super long games but yeah

1688
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:08,360
the second one came and went a lot quicker.

1689
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:10,360
The ending was a bit

1690
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:12,360
mid as well.

1691
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:14,360
Top of S tier? Top of S tier.

1692
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:16,360
Yeah, top of S tier. Nice, zero, public.

1693
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,360
Fuck.

1694
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:20,360
I tried, I kinda tried it

1695
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:22,360
at one point but I didn't really get into it.

1696
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:24,360
Dude, it's...

1697
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:26,360
When did you play it? That's a genuine...

1698
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:28,360
Is this the online game? Right? No.

1699
01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:30,360
This is the original one.

1700
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:32,360
I haven't played this since. Darth Revan.

1701
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:34,360
Andy's playing it.

1702
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:36,360
This one needs like a...not a remaster but a remake.

1703
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:38,360
Which I think is...they cancelled that.

1704
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:40,360
They cancelled it, then uncancelled it

1705
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:42,360
then cancelled it and then maybe it came back.

1706
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:44,360
That thing is in development

1707
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:46,360
purgatory. It's not even development hell.

1708
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:48,360
Bloody show news like, it's second

1709
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:50,360
row for Dummys. I think that's for Force Unleashed

1710
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:52,360
too. True but

1711
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:54,360
I mean it was...

1712
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:56,360
But it styled it.

1713
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:58,360
When it came out, great game.

1714
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:00,360
Nicely the Old

1715
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:02,360
Republic 2 though.

1716
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:04,360
I'm gonna say something controversial.

1717
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:06,360
It's not as good...

1718
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:08,360
The character development in it is really interesting.

1719
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:10,360
Very good character development.

1720
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:12,360
It should go in B tier because if you

1721
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:14,360
ask someone, how should I play this game

1722
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:16,360
they will without fault tell you

1723
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,360
I'm trying to figure out

1724
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:20,360
what's going on with the...

1725
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:22,360
Writing.

1726
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:24,360
The writing was good in the second one.

1727
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:26,360
The writing was really good in the second one.

1728
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:28,360
It's just like you ask someone

1729
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:30,360
like, yeah I'm thinking about playing Nicely the Old

1730
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:32,360
Republic 2 and then they go, yeah it's a great game

1731
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:34,360
but you really need the unofficial edition

1732
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:36,360
and the cut content and this patch.

1733
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:38,360
There's so many things I feel like

1734
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:40,360
people tell you you need to add to

1735
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:42,360
KOTOR 2 to make it the peak

1736
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:44,360
experience. It's like well... Yes, Kerms and Gloria.

1737
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:46,360
His mic did.

1738
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:48,360
It's not his mic that's broken. It's Riverside.

1739
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:50,360
But next week,

1740
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:52,360
we might be on something else.

1741
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:54,360
Maybe. Bloodshed. Nicely the Old Republic has

1742
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:56,360
the best deconstruction of

1743
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:58,360
Star Wars

1744
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:00,360
in the entire series.

1745
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:02,360
It's just generally something more...

1746
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:04,360
It's contributed something to the

1747
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:06,360
franchise which most of the other

1748
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:08,360
things on this list just won't have.

1749
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:10,360
Someone also got confused and edited

1750
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:12,360
Chaos God as the main...

1751
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:14,360
as the final boss. Oh yeah, Darth Nihilus.

1752
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:16,360
What did he do? Oh, he ate a planet.

1753
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:18,360
You mean he ate a planet. He ate it.

1754
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:20,360
I do really like the occasional

1755
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:22,360
Star Wars lore that's just like insane.

1756
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:24,360
Like that. That is awesome.

1757
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:26,360
The next one is that Star Wars Lego...

1758
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:28,360
We got a couple donations by the way.

1759
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:30,360
Oh, sorry.

1760
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:32,360
It's Sekiro for dummies.

1761
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:34,360
I'm assuming that was about four sunleaf...

1762
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:36,360
He was talking about...

1763
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:38,360
He mentioned later he was talking about Survivor.

1764
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:40,360
Oh, sorry.

1765
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:42,360
H. Mia Love.

1766
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:44,360
I was about to replace the

1767
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:46,360
Lego Chewbacca PFP.

1768
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:48,360
But you guys have a holy faggot.

1769
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:50,360
Good man. You keep that PFP.

1770
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:52,360
You keep it. Is that the Fortnite

1771
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:54,360
Lego?

1772
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:56,360
Like Star Wars thing on here?

1773
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:58,360
Okay, the

1774
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:00,360
Lego Star Wars...

1775
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:02,360
I'd be honest, I might put Lego Star Wars

1776
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:04,360
all together just because it's in my mind

1777
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:06,360
it's almost like one thing. The new games are

1778
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:08,360
a lot different though.

1779
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:10,360
They talk and I don't like them. Oldest

1780
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:12,360
original Lego Star Wars is totally

1781
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:14,360
SD. That's my childhood.

1782
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:16,360
That's everyone's childhood. It's so fun.

1783
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:18,360
I mean, that's like...

1784
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:20,360
Like the free play zones are fun.

1785
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:22,360
The complete saga. There you go.

1786
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:24,360
Starting a fight in Dexter's, just

1787
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:26,360
because you're bored and you want to see

1788
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:28,360
the Lego's kill each other.

1789
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:30,360
But the next one though,

1790
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:32,360
this is the game where like no one

1791
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:34,360
I knew in real life had played

1792
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:36,360
this game and I bought it in like

1793
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:38,360
just a regular old

1794
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:40,360
CEX shop.

1795
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:42,360
I think at the time I was like, I literally

1796
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:44,360
cannot explain, like I knew

1797
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:46,360
nothing about this game and I got Star

1798
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:48,360
Wars Republic Commando and

1799
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:50,360
it fucked.

1800
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:52,360
Do you ever play the multiplayer,

1801
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:54,360
Colin?

1802
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:56,360
Not really. I played with a lot of the

1803
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:58,360
multiplayer and people were good

1804
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:00,360
because like the multiplayer was dead at

1805
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:02,360
that point. So like one or two servers

1806
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:04,360
left, but the only people who were playing

1807
01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:06,360
it were the people who were still going.

1808
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:10,360
My god, that game was

1809
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:12,360
I don't know why

1810
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:14,360
they didn't make the Order 66

1811
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:16,360
like second one. My god, that was

1812
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:18,360
so much fun. This one for

1813
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:20,360
me, I don't think everyone would agree, but

1814
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:22,360
for me personally, it would

1815
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:24,360
get into like probably the bottom of S tier.

1816
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:28,360
I haven't played it since I was a kid.

1817
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:30,360
Oh man, I just couldn't

1818
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,360
like, it had like some really cool

1819
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:34,360
neat features like certain like interaction.

1820
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:36,360
You actually felt like a proper like Commando

1821
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:38,360
unit. It was honestly

1822
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:40,360
my favorite, like one of those tactical

1823
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:42,360
shooters because the AI of like

1824
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:44,360
the rest of Delta Squad was

1825
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:46,360
competent to the point you could trust them to do

1826
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:48,360
something, but they weren't so competent

1827
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:50,360
that it was like, well, why am I here? Why am I

1828
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:52,360
why do I even need to be here? The AI

1829
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:54,360
is showing me up, which is such a

1830
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:56,360
hard spot because most of the time

1831
01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:58,360
your AI teammates are just brain

1832
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:00,360
dead and the rest of the time they usually

1833
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:02,360
just sweep. So

1834
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:04,360
the fact that you could also like you set up your own

1835
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:06,360
sort of miniature like defense

1836
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:08,360
system, like putting some guys on turrets,

1837
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:10,360
some guys on things and like

1838
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:12,360
God, I miss this game. Okay.

1839
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:14,360
B tier. B tier.

1840
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:16,360
Andy, I actually will

1841
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:18,360
find out where you live.

1842
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:20,360
God, um. The gunplay was not

1843
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:22,360
mid. You're insane. The gunplay was

1844
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:24,360
something you are. Andy

1845
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:26,360
is the arbiter. Andy can type in the chat. Oh my

1846
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:28,360
gosh. I need to.

1847
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:30,360
Also, we had a donation. Drunken

1848
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:32,360
Cal 13 says, uh, I've been

1849
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:34,360
scanned. This ain't 40k. We just

1850
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:36,360
we're a little bit further in, brother. We do

1851
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:38,360
one 40k. We do like an hour and a half

1852
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:40,360
for 40k. Yeah, and a half

1853
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:42,360
for 40k. And as um, just

1854
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:44,360
a finishing tier list. Is that Rogue One?

1855
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:46,360
I like Rogue One.

1856
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:48,360
It has the Darth Vader scene.

1857
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:50,360
It doesn't. It wasn't a

1858
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:52,360
masterpiece. I don't know. I put it probably. I

1859
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:54,360
didn't. I think it was fine. I watched

1860
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:56,360
that film once and I

1861
01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:58,360
don't think I'd ever watch it again.

1862
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:00,360
I think it's

1863
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:02,360
because it came out around the same time of

1864
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:04,360
seven and eight. It felt really good when you

1865
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:06,360
watched it because it was just so much better

1866
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:08,360
than the rest of the other one. But like

1867
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:10,360
I mean, yeah, I think

1868
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:12,360
it gets beats here. It was more than a 50%

1869
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:14,360
for me. I think it's a

1870
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:16,360
good film.

1871
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:18,360
But you could always be forgiven without

1872
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:20,360
you could literally think, oh

1873
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:22,360
this wouldn't even be a Star Wars film

1874
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:24,360
necessarily. Like this is an alright

1875
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:26,360
film.

1876
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:28,360
On a weird spot, if it wasn't tied

1877
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:30,360
to Star Wars, would it be a good film?

1878
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:32,360
It's like, it's

1879
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:34,360
cool. It's decent. It's a good movie.

1880
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:36,360
It was a fun movie. The Darth Vader scene is the

1881
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:38,360
only thing you will ever see. Yeah, yeah. Having something

1882
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:40,360
that was enjoyable to watch

1883
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:42,360
in that era of Star Wars was

1884
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:44,360
like a blessing all on its own. So

1885
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:46,360
I feel like I'd rewatch

1886
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:48,360
a lot of the other Star Wars things here or like

1887
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:50,360
play a lot of things. I don't think I'd watch Rogue One

1888
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:52,360
again. Like I've enjoyed it

1889
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:54,360
and it's over. Yeah, but I wouldn't watch seven

1890
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:56,360
eight or nine ever again.

1891
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:58,360
If I showed up to something

1892
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:00,360
and they were showing Rogue One, I wouldn't mind.

1893
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:02,360
Yeah,

1894
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:04,360
I mean, I'd rather watch Rogue One

1895
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:06,360
over any of those.

1896
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:08,360
Bad Batch, the next one.

1897
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:10,360
I'm not lying. I've not been keeping

1898
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:12,360
up with this, but I know people have

1899
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:14,360
enjoyed it. People really like it, yeah.

1900
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:16,360
Yeah, dog shit. They killed

1901
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:18,360
Scorch. Sad.

1902
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:20,360
It didn't seem like the same as

1903
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:22,360
it did not feel like Clone Wars

1904
01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:24,360
to me when I watched the first episode, but it seemed

1905
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:26,360
okay. It's made one

1906
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:28,360
really good thing, which was

1907
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:30,360
it's actually properly

1908
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:32,360
made sense of the gap between

1909
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:34,360
the Republic

1910
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:36,360
and then the Empire.

1911
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:38,360
As in, it actually shows you like

1912
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:40,360
the slow transition.

1913
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:42,360
Yeah, like the clones training the Stormtroopers.

1914
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:44,360
And so

1915
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:46,360
it's one of the few things that have like sort

1916
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:48,360
of in a way fixed Star Wars.

1917
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:50,360
So if like as an

1918
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:52,360
it makes like almost like a complete story.

1919
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:54,360
So maybe I'm going to get like a

1920
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:56,360
C tier. I think people

1921
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:58,360
who are like a big Warhammer

1922
01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:00,360
fans, the problem is, Star Wars

1923
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:02,360
fans, is that

1924
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:04,360
it's the okay Star Wars

1925
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:06,360
thing at the moment compared to the other dog

1926
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:08,360
shit thing. So it gets a much higher rating than it

1927
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:10,360
really deserves. Star Wars

1928
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:12,360
fans cope harder than Warhammer fans,

1929
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:14,360
I'm convinced. Yeah, we've always

1930
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:16,360
we always get at least we're still getting

1931
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:18,360
decent, like especially

1932
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:20,360
lore stuff. We're getting decent

1933
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:22,360
books and things

1934
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:24,360
at the time. I've not watched this one, I've only

1935
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:26,360
heard good things about it. I just, I

1936
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:28,360
actually haven't seen Andor, but I know it's very

1937
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:30,360
good. I heard it's very good.

1938
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:32,360
Andy is

1939
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:34,360
Andy's dad. We can give him this one without arguments.

1940
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:36,360
I'm still upset about Republic Commando

1941
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:38,360
being B tier. Yeah, that is crazy.

1942
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:40,360
I haven't even played the game and I know that it's S tier.

1943
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:42,360
Fine, fine.

1944
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:44,360
What's the next one?

1945
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:46,360
I don't know what that is. That looks like the

1946
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:48,360
ComStar logo. What is that,

1947
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:50,360
Andy? You don't know? Okay.

1948
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:52,360
I guess it gets mid F. I'll leave it in mid.

1949
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:54,360
Sure. Star Wars Battlefront

1950
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:56,360
is that the first one?

1951
01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:58,360
No.

1952
01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:00,360
No, the first one's right below it. I don't know what that is.

1953
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:02,360
Oh, is it?

1954
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:04,360
It could be the DS version.

1955
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:06,360
I don't know what I'm looking at.

1956
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:08,360
Andy says one circle,

1957
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:10,360
two circles, one.

1958
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:12,360
It's a character with a, just a

1959
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:14,360
red light-staper.

1960
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:16,360
I don't know what that one is,

1961
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:18,360
to be fair. Hang on.

1962
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:20,360
Andy, Andy bro, it's like

1963
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:22,360
charades. You can't just keep doing the same thing and expect

1964
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:24,360
me to know what you mean. Oh!

1965
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:26,360
Um.

1966
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:28,360
Obi-Wan. Oh, Obi-Wan series.

1967
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:30,360
Oh my gosh.

1968
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:32,360
Oh my god. I have not watched

1969
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:34,360
this either. I heard it was kind of mid.

1970
01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:36,360
But I just do the egg thing. Honestly,

1971
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:38,360
this one was not

1972
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:40,360
that good. I didn't hear good things about it either.

1973
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:42,360
It was not that good.

1974
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:44,360
It was a big,

1975
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:46,360
it was a big nothing bug.

1976
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:48,360
Can we just jump ahead and put Solo

1977
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:50,360
right next to it? Like, I

1978
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:52,360
didn't, are we gonna have a productive

1979
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:54,360
conversation about fucking Solo?

1980
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:56,360
It was alright. Cool. Yeah,

1981
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:58,360
Darth Maul was in it, other than that.

1982
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:00,360
It's not dog shit. It's not dog shit.

1983
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:02,360
Yeah, I went

1984
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:04,360
to it in Calgary, I just docked myself

1985
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:06,360
with my friends, and we went,

1986
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:08,360
we saw it in the D-Box

1987
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:10,360
seats, and so there's lots of space scenes, and you were

1988
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:12,360
flying around the whole time, and it was, it was

1989
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:14,360
a fun, again, it came out in time of like

1990
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:16,360
7 and 8 era, so watching something

1991
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:18,360
that wasn't completely terrible,

1992
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:20,360
it was kinda nice. It was mid.

1993
01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:22,360
It was mid. It was dog shit, but it doesn't need to really

1994
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:24,360
exist. It's kind of a pointless

1995
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:26,360
movie, but you know, it's okay.

1996
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:28,360
It was fun to watch, and it had to

1997
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:30,360
be the next one. Is that the original?

1998
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:32,360
Is that, what kind of

1999
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:34,360
one is that? Is that a new hoax?

2000
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:36,360
Is that episode 4? Oh, fucking A-Tier.

2001
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:38,360
Yeah, I guess for me, I love episode

2002
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:40,360
4. I'm only saying

2003
01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:42,360
A-Tier, cause it's competing with Empire Strikes

2004
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:44,360
Back. Yeah.

2005
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:46,360
To be fair, even now,

2006
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:48,360
if you actually just randomly

2007
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:50,360
rewatch

2008
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:52,360
the original Star Wars trilogy,

2009
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:54,360
I just forget how good

2010
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:56,360
it is. There's a reason Star

2011
01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:58,360
Wars is still around, cause the

2012
01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:00,360
trilogy is phenomenal. Every time you say,

2013
01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:02,360
wow, it really was like, cooking.

2014
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:04,360
But I didn't experience

2015
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:06,360
it from like, oh, it was like the most brand new

2016
01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:08,360
revolutionary thing ever.

2017
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:10,360
Andy,

2018
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:12,360
I'm gonna negotiate with you. Put it

2019
01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:14,360
bottom of S, and I'm only,

2020
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:16,360
again, Empire Strikes Back.

2021
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:18,360
Yeah, Empire Strikes Back is such a better movie.

2022
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:20,360
I love Kotor and the

2023
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:22,360
Kotor cartoon more than I like

2024
01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:24,360
episode 4. It's a phenomenal movie.

2025
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:26,360
I'm not debating you on that. I just think

2026
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:28,360
that a lot of the things in S-Tier

2027
01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:30,360
are just... Colin's actually seen

2028
01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:32,360
some of these movies. That's crazy.

2029
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:34,360
Oh my gosh.

2030
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:36,360
When is it gonna be our turn to control

2031
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:38,360
the T-List? Oh my gosh.

2032
01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:40,360
My mom hates Star Wars, but my dad

2033
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:42,360
fucking loves it. Next one is Star Wars

2034
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:44,360
Rebels. I

2035
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:46,360
watched it. You know what? This one is a

2036
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:48,360
it's either C

2037
01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:50,360
or B. It's best it was B

2038
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:52,360
on certain things, because like certain things

2039
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:54,360
and characters and things came back. I did watch

2040
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:56,360
the Marvel vs Obi-Wan scene and that was very, very,

2041
01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:58,360
very well done. That was incredible.

2042
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:00,360
But I haven't watched the show. I watched a few

2043
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:02,360
episodes and thought this is dumb and

2044
01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:04,360
I just... I definitely

2045
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:06,360
it does suffer from

2046
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:08,360
it's a worse

2047
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:10,360
like they weren't ready to make

2048
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:12,360
Rebel. Like, basically

2049
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:14,360
Disney had bought Star Wars

2050
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:16,360
and they basically went, alright, we need some new shit

2051
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:18,360
make Rebels. It wasn't like a

2052
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:20,360
organic creation. It felt

2053
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:22,360
like the like more

2054
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:24,360
of a kid's version of Clone

2055
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:26,360
Wars when I've watched it. Maybe

2056
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:28,360
it got better, but so I can't say. No, I

2057
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:30,360
do agree with C too.

2058
01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:32,360
It had very good moments, but

2059
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:34,360
overall it was just kind of decent.

2060
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:36,360
I don't know what the next thing is. What is that?

2061
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:38,360
I don't know what I'm looking at. I can't

2062
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:40,360
tell at all. Visions? Oh,

2063
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:42,360
that was like that anime thing they did.

2064
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:44,360
Oh yeah, I never watched it. That was kind of

2065
01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:46,360
like the crossover one. Some of those were

2066
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:48,360
cool. Yeah, some of them were cool. I think maybe

2067
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:50,360
B tier. Some of them were pretty cool.

2068
01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:52,360
It wasn't like anything

2069
01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:54,360
game changing, but it was

2070
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:56,360
cool. What's the next one?

2071
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:58,360
I'm trying to read that.

2072
01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:00,360
That's

2073
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:02,360
Empire. Sorry,

2074
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:04,360
Last Jedi or Empire Strikes

2075
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:06,360
Back, one of the two.

2076
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:08,360
S tier? It's Empire.

2077
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:10,360
Oh, Empire Strikes Back.

2078
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:12,360
That's S tier.

2079
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:14,360
Phantom Menace.

2080
01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:16,360
I won't lie.

2081
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:18,360
It has Darth Maul in it. Phantom Menace,

2082
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:20,360
I have...

2083
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:22,360
What are the rest of the movies that

2084
01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:24,360
isn't the 10 minutes with Darth Maul?

2085
01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:26,360
You know,

2086
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:28,360
this comes from the guy who's

2087
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:30,360
Jar Jar Binks biggest fan, and Jar Jar Binks is

2088
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:32,360
the biggest character in this movie.

2089
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:34,360
It's

2090
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:36,360
a D tier movie, but the last 10

2091
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:38,360
minutes make it C tier, just because

2092
01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:40,360
Darth Maul. You're so same.

2093
01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:42,360
Where's the

2094
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:44,360
holiday special?

2095
01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:46,360
Also boss,

2096
01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:48,360
there's

2097
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:50,360
cool scenes in it, like the Gungan's

2098
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:52,360
place is really cool. How many of New

2099
01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:54,360
Hopes are there? Am I looking at the new...

2100
01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:56,360
I don't know what that thing is.

2101
01:32:56,360 --> 01:32:58,360
Is that like Luke pointing a gun?

2102
01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:02,360
The next one is Phantom Menace.

2103
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:04,360
I think it's C.

2104
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:06,360
It's C because Darth Maul is so cool.

2105
01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:08,360
I have...

2106
01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:10,360
I'm sure we've all watched, like for us,

2107
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:12,360
the Phantom Menace was probably one of the first ones we watched

2108
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:14,360
just because when we were kids.

2109
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:16,360
I mean,

2110
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:18,360
I watched the original trilogy first.

2111
01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:20,360
I'm a young fella, Andy. I'm 20...

2112
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:22,360
Colin and I are 20 years old, alright?

2113
01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:24,360
Just how it is.

2114
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:26,360
I've watched the Phantom Menace

2115
01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:28,360
on VHS

2116
01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:30,360
quite a few times when I was like,

2117
01:33:30,360 --> 01:33:32,360
growing up. I was like, this thing was like, oh, it's so cool.

2118
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:34,360
Obviously, watching it again

2119
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:36,360
as an adult, you're like,

2120
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:40,360
man, this drama play is amateur.

2121
01:33:40,360 --> 01:33:42,360
It's so bad.

2122
01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:44,360
And there's some Jem moments in it, though,

2123
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:46,360
but it's just, Phantom Menace has...

2124
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:50,360
It's all the heart, but none of the sustenance.

2125
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:52,360
I think Jem, I think it deserves C still.

2126
01:33:52,360 --> 01:33:54,360
Shut up to Padme grooming a child.

2127
01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:56,360
For real, bro.

2128
01:33:56,360 --> 01:33:58,360
I mean, she was, what, 14 or something in that?

2129
01:33:58,360 --> 01:34:00,360
I don't know.

2130
01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:02,360
It's still weird, but yeah.

2131
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:04,360
It's just, again...

2132
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:06,360
Star Wars and Clone Wars, we messed up.

2133
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:08,360
We messed up.

2134
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:10,360
What do we fuck up?

2135
01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:12,360
What do you mean we fucked up?

2136
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:14,360
Ominous. Ominous.

2137
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:16,360
Oh, wait, it's one of the top ones, isn't it?

2138
01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:18,360
No.

2139
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:20,360
Holiday Special.

2140
01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:22,360
Wait, where's the Holiday Special?

2141
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:24,360
There isn't a Holiday Special, though.

2142
01:34:24,360 --> 01:34:26,360
I've never seen it.

2143
01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:28,360
I've never seen it.

2144
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:30,360
The Holiday Special, by the way.

2145
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:34,360
We can keep it up there.

2146
01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:36,360
We got $5 from Stephen Cooper, thank you.

2147
01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:38,360
Jedi Academy, not here.

2148
01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:40,360
Haram, Soldier, beats here.

2149
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:42,360
You're the $5.

2150
01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:44,360
Eli, says Crimson Glory.

2151
01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:46,360
That is my name, Crimson Glory.

2152
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:48,360
I'm glad we've established that.

2153
01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:50,360
I think you should have said Eli, it's about tight.

2154
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:52,360
Put Clone Wars in...

2155
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:54,360
Clone Wars in A.

2156
01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:56,360
Clone Wars is S tier, come on.

2157
01:34:56,360 --> 01:35:00,360
There's...

2158
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:02,360
I don't know, there was actually...

2159
01:35:02,360 --> 01:35:04,360
Hang on, hang on, though.

2160
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:06,360
Oh, no, the animated movie is farther down the list.

2161
01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:08,360
Never mind.

2162
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:10,360
You know what?

2163
01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:12,360
I'm going to put The Clone Wars right next to its counterpart, Clone Wars, in S tier.

2164
01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:14,360
I hope you're not talking about...

2165
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:18,360
Because, generally, Clone Wars, the animated one, has been carrying Star Wars for the last 10 years.

2166
01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:20,360
It had some...

2167
01:35:20,360 --> 01:35:22,360
It had some...

2168
01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:24,360
It had some...

2169
01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:26,360
It had some...

2170
01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:28,360
15 years even.

2171
01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:30,360
It had some not great stuff, though.

2172
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:32,360
It's had some damn good stuff, though, isn't it?

2173
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:34,360
It had some absolute...

2174
01:35:34,360 --> 01:35:36,360
That's why it's eight here.

2175
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:38,360
It's not affected by what, you know, like cameras or humans.

2176
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:40,360
It literally could just do what it needs to do.

2177
01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:42,360
And I won't lie, I wished for it when we were young.

2178
01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:44,360
Like, even...

2179
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:46,360
Like, if we were just a little bit younger,

2180
01:35:46,360 --> 01:35:48,360
and growing up for us,

2181
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:50,360
if our current Star Wars media was The Clone Wars,

2182
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:52,360
it would have been going...

2183
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:54,360
Can we address Tom Warren's $2 donation?

2184
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:56,360
Thank you, Tom.

2185
01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:58,360
Can somebody tell me where this is from?

2186
01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:00,360
Is this from a holiday special?

2187
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:02,360
I think he made that... Oh, no, that might...

2188
01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:04,360
Chewie's dad watching VR smart deserves this.

2189
01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:06,360
What is this from?

2190
01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:08,360
What is this from?

2191
01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:10,360
Colin's currently looking up Chewie's dad watching VR smart.

2192
01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:12,360
His name was Attachitcuck.

2193
01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:14,360
What?

2194
01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:16,360
I feel...

2195
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:18,360
I don't feel good for having said that name.

2196
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:20,360
Attachitcuck.

2197
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:22,360
Oh, my gosh.

2198
01:36:22,360 --> 01:36:24,360
Holiday special. Why did that even happen?

2199
01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:26,360
Appearances.

2200
01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:28,360
Death of Halls. Life-State 1.

2201
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:30,360
Why are you smoking?

2202
01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:32,360
Should we have Robot Chicken Star Wars on here?

2203
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:34,360
Exactly.

2204
01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:36,360
The Family Guy Star Wars.

2205
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:38,360
The Family Guy Star Wars episodes.

2206
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:42,360
You will not tame.

2207
01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:44,360
You will not tame my man.

2208
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:46,360
I'm Chris.

2209
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:48,360
I guess Chewie's dad was a part of it.

2210
01:36:48,360 --> 01:36:50,360
Star Wars Battlefront 2 is S tier.

2211
01:36:50,360 --> 01:36:52,360
Star Wars Battlefront 2 is S tier.

2212
01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:54,360
Oh, I love it. I love it.

2213
01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:56,360
I'm going to send a mail bomb to the guys who made the new...

2214
01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:58,360
I'm going to send a mail bomb to the guys who made the new...

2215
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:00,360
in Minecraft, but also in real life.

2216
01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:02,360
in Minecraft, but also in real life.

2217
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:04,360
In Minecraft.

2218
01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:06,360
We've not endorsed that on Lord Crimes,

2219
01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:08,360
YouTube algorithm, gods.

2220
01:37:08,360 --> 01:37:10,360
That one must be one of...

2221
01:37:10,360 --> 01:37:12,360
Is that Return of the Jedi?

2222
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:14,360
Yeah, I think that's Return of the Jedi.

2223
01:37:14,360 --> 01:37:16,360
No, that's Empire Strikes Back.

2224
01:37:16,360 --> 01:37:18,360
Empire Strikes Back.

2225
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:20,360
No, yeah, Return of the Jedi, because he's got the green.

2226
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:22,360
No, yeah, Return of the Jedi, because he's got the green.

2227
01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:24,360
The green lightsaber is S tier for me. That was the coolest thing.

2228
01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:26,360
It's not the top of S tier.

2229
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:28,360
It's not the top of S tier.

2230
01:37:28,360 --> 01:37:30,360
I didn't say top of S tier.

2231
01:37:30,360 --> 01:37:32,360
Wait, Andy says wait.

2232
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:34,360
Wait, wait, we need to clarify which way it is.

2233
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:36,360
The seer is writing.

2234
01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:40,360
Ewoks.

2235
01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:42,360
You're right.

2236
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:44,360
You're right.

2237
01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:46,360
He gets A tier for the Ewoks.

2238
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:50,360
The Ewoks is truly like...

2239
01:37:50,360 --> 01:37:52,360
The Ewoks' creature.

2240
01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:54,360
Again, George.

2241
01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:56,360
Andy, get fucking Return of the Jedi out of S tier.

2242
01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:58,360
Get it off the top of S tier.

2243
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:00,360
What are you doing?

2244
01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:02,360
You are insane.

2245
01:38:02,360 --> 01:38:04,360
Andy just doesn't...

2246
01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:06,360
Andy's an Ewoks lover, isn't he?

2247
01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:08,360
Yep, he's an Ewoks lover.

2248
01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:10,360
That doesn't surprise me at all.

2249
01:38:10,360 --> 01:38:12,360
Oh, no, no, we got them wrong.

2250
01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:14,360
The next one here is A New Hope.

2251
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:16,360
Yeah.

2252
01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:18,360
Yeah, because we put the holiday special on.

2253
01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:20,360
A New Hope is...

2254
01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:22,360
Yeah.

2255
01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:26,360
No, no, no, no, no.

2256
01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:28,360
What do you mean?

2257
01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:30,360
It's pretty awesome.

2258
01:38:30,360 --> 01:38:32,360
It started the whole journey.

2259
01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:34,360
It is the beginning, yeah.

2260
01:38:34,360 --> 01:38:36,360
Andy's not happy with you.

2261
01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:40,360
If that's the logic we're going by, A New Hope also led to episode 8.

2262
01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:44,360
Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever.

2263
01:38:44,360 --> 01:38:46,360
I mean...

2264
01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:48,360
I would want...

2265
01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:50,360
If I was going to watch any of the Star Wars films again,

2266
01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:53,360
I would probably watch A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back.

2267
01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:56,360
Like if I said right now, I want to go watch the Star Wars film,

2268
01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:58,360
I'd watch those two.

2269
01:38:58,360 --> 01:39:00,360
I'd watch that in that order, though.

2270
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:02,360
Just because like...

2271
01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:04,360
Return of the Jedi, I don't mind missing out for a little bit.

2272
01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:06,360
But those two, I feel like they could be one film.

2273
01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:10,360
DGP says Andy's a poor collector, that's very funny.

2274
01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:12,360
Next one though is...

2275
01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:14,360
The sort of thing from the first movie.

2276
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:18,360
Next one is I Hate Sand, it's coarse and rough and it gets nowhere.

2277
01:39:18,360 --> 01:39:20,360
It's better than Phantom Menace.

2278
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:22,360
The clone scenes are pretty cool.

2279
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:24,360
Genos is really cool.

2280
01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:26,360
The last 15 minutes of both of those movies are cool, I know.

2281
01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:28,360
I know.

2282
01:39:28,360 --> 01:39:32,360
Okay, okay, Jango Fett, Jango Fett and Boba Fett are in it, they're really cool.

2283
01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:34,360
The Count Dookie is fine.

2284
01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:36,360
It has a lot...

2285
01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:38,360
It looks way less goofy and it has a lot cooler things in it.

2286
01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:40,360
And then Count Dooku and Yoda...

2287
01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:42,360
Oh my gosh, Andy.

2288
01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:44,360
It's better than Phantom Menace, come on.

2289
01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:46,360
It is, I agree, it's worse.

2290
01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:48,360
It is worse.

2291
01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:50,360
Corrin DeGlory says,

2292
01:39:50,360 --> 01:39:54,360
Fortunate Sons plays as I fight through the Inforcest of Storms.

2293
01:39:54,360 --> 01:40:00,360
You guys like the Jar Jar Binks movie more than episode 2, that's crazy.

2294
01:40:00,360 --> 01:40:02,360
Jar Jar Binks is in Basidun, attacking the clones.

2295
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:04,360
Attacking the clones.

2296
01:40:06,360 --> 01:40:08,360
Next one though, this is Swotor.

2297
01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:10,360
The online game.

2298
01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:14,360
I won't lie, I've had a playthrough of this when it came out.

2299
01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:16,360
The story mode missions are...

2300
01:40:16,360 --> 01:40:18,360
The voice lines, some of these are so hilarious.

2301
01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:26,360
If you look up, like, everyone looks up Swotor smuggler lines, it's actually so damn funny.

2302
01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:28,360
It's like quite...

2303
01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:30,360
The gameplay is nothing to get crazy about, but honestly,

2304
01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:32,360
it was an enjoyable game.

2305
01:40:32,360 --> 01:40:34,360
I think it's pretty safe where it is, B-tier.

2306
01:40:34,360 --> 01:40:36,360
The cutscenes, the frickin' trailers get...

2307
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:38,360
The trailers themselves are the rest of it.

2308
01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:40,360
Oh, the trailers are like...

2309
01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:42,360
The trailers are actually better Star Wars than current Star Wars.

2310
01:40:42,360 --> 01:40:44,360
199, thank you for Parker, Summery.

2311
01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:50,360
I see my problem with Swotor is that every time I think of it, I think of my friend who is an insane man.

2312
01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:52,360
And spies...

2313
01:40:52,360 --> 01:40:54,360
The MMO disease.

2314
01:40:54,360 --> 01:40:58,360
I don't know if he still does this, but at least until a lot more recently than he should have,

2315
01:40:58,360 --> 01:41:02,360
if you're watching this, by the way, I am talking about this, fuck you.

2316
01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:08,360
He would buy all of a new item, and then the price would go up in the in-game stock market,

2317
01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:10,360
and he would have all of it.

2318
01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:12,360
Because he had an account since it launched.

2319
01:41:12,360 --> 01:41:14,360
That's so funny.

2320
01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:16,360
Parker is asking, where is Ahsoka?

2321
01:41:16,360 --> 01:41:18,360
Thank you for the two dollars.

2322
01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:20,360
I guess it's not on here.

2323
01:41:20,360 --> 01:41:22,360
I didn't watch Ahsoka, I heard it was mid as well.

2324
01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:24,360
But I don't know.

2325
01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:32,360
The problem with Ahsoka is it was just like, we were all being edged, being like, oh, it's going to be good at any moment now.

2326
01:41:32,360 --> 01:41:38,360
Like it was building, building, building, building, building, and then it like, it is no payoff.

2327
01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:42,360
It's like, ah, so annoyed at Star Wars.

2328
01:41:42,360 --> 01:41:46,360
Oh, this is the Battlefront, is Battlefront 2 remake?

2329
01:41:46,360 --> 01:41:51,360
Yeah, the first one, the first one gets dogged here, bro.

2330
01:41:51,360 --> 01:41:52,360
They fumbled it so bad.

2331
01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:54,360
I remember the release being just horrible.

2332
01:41:54,360 --> 01:41:58,360
It looked pretty cool, but again, like they had like probably loot boxes and...

2333
01:41:58,360 --> 01:42:00,360
Yeah, it was...

2334
01:42:00,360 --> 01:42:08,360
All they had to do was make Star Wars Battlefront 2 with pretty graphics, and instead they just made loot box game, Call of Duty Star Wars.

2335
01:42:08,360 --> 01:42:12,360
Now the original Star Wars Battlefront, this one was...

2336
01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:16,360
I had this on the original Xbox when this came out.

2337
01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:19,360
This was, again, childhood.

2338
01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:22,360
This was, this started the journey.

2339
01:42:22,360 --> 01:42:26,360
That goes to Battlefront 2. Battlefront 2 is ahead of it for me personally, because I played more Battlefront 2.

2340
01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:28,360
Yeah, I put it in A tier to be fair, this one.

2341
01:42:28,360 --> 01:42:29,360
I put it in A tier.

2342
01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:32,360
It's better than... Yeah, that's about right.

2343
01:42:32,360 --> 01:42:33,360
It's fine, I guess.

2344
01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:35,360
It had a glow up at the end of its life.

2345
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:41,360
Unfortunately, EA then killed it and its opening was, yes, play 50 hours for only Darth Vader.

2346
01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:46,360
It's a sense of pride and accomplishment, you insane, greedy bastards.

2347
01:42:46,360 --> 01:42:51,360
Next one is Revenge. This is the best of the prequel trilogy, I think, Revenge of the Sith.

2348
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:53,360
It's at least A tier. It's at least A tier.

2349
01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:54,360
I think Bossamade, though.

2350
01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:55,360
I really like this movie.

2351
01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:57,360
Because it's got glaring issues.

2352
01:42:57,360 --> 01:43:00,360
It's got a few issues, yeah, but it's got a nice story overall.

2353
01:43:00,360 --> 01:43:03,360
General Grievous is in it, which is awesome.

2354
01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:04,360
Cool stuff.

2355
01:43:04,360 --> 01:43:06,360
Even if they dog on him, even if they dog on him, he's in it.

2356
01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:13,360
I would, I would just, I would, if I had to watch the prequel itself, I would just ignore the first two and go watch this one again.

2357
01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:19,360
I would put it in Bossamade just because it, again, fight scenes are damn cool in this one.

2358
01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:21,360
The Jedi get it.

2359
01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:25,360
Andy, Andy, Andy doesn't like it. Andy doesn't like it.

2360
01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:26,360
I think...

2361
01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:28,360
It's not about Andy. It's about everyone.

2362
01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:32,360
Clearly it is about Andy. No, Andy, you stick to your guns on this one.

2363
01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:33,360
Hey, hey!

2364
01:43:33,360 --> 01:43:35,360
It's a good movie.

2365
01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:36,360
Disrespect.

2366
01:43:36,360 --> 01:43:37,360
No.

2367
01:43:37,360 --> 01:43:38,360
There we go, let's go.

2368
01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:42,360
There you go, TK778 is Revenge of the Sith is A tier.

2369
01:43:42,360 --> 01:43:45,360
Star Wars The Clone Wars the movie...

2370
01:43:45,360 --> 01:43:50,360
Oh my god, I got this for my birthday on DVD, man.

2371
01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:52,360
It sucks.

2372
01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:56,360
I don't know how The Clone Wars got greenlit after that.

2373
01:43:56,360 --> 01:44:04,360
This thing, this thing, this thing fucking dragged its life as corpse without The Clone Wars animated show could run.

2374
01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:06,360
It's better than episode 9.

2375
01:44:06,360 --> 01:44:09,360
Yeah, put it above dog shit.

2376
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:12,360
It's actually better than Boba Fett.

2377
01:44:12,360 --> 01:44:18,360
No, keep it in dog shit, but put it above episode 9 and there we go.

2378
01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:21,360
Okay, that one, episode 7?

2379
01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:26,360
Alright, episode 7 I think is D tier because it's just A New Hope again, but it's fine.

2380
01:44:26,360 --> 01:44:34,360
I wanted to see this in the cinema and I was like, I remember thinking, okay, this Star Wars could be okay, this could be good.

2381
01:44:34,360 --> 01:44:36,360
And then they kept...

2382
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:42,360
I remember leaving the movie theater with my buddies and being like, was that good?

2383
01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:44,360
I remember thinking that.

2384
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:51,360
I was like, I didn't feel anything. I just felt empty after watching it. It was just soulless.

2385
01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:57,360
Shout out to Harrison Ford only agreeing to do the movie so they'd finally kill them all.

2386
01:44:57,360 --> 01:45:01,360
I don't want to have any more questions about Star Wars.

2387
01:45:01,360 --> 01:45:03,360
Battlefront 2 is better than the first one.

2388
01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:06,360
That's actually pretty good game. That's actually a really good game.

2389
01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:08,360
Yeah, I agree.

2390
01:45:08,360 --> 01:45:10,360
It started horribly.

2391
01:45:10,360 --> 01:45:12,360
Top of A I'd almost put. I'd actually put top of A.

2392
01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:15,360
I'd put it in there. I had a lot of fun playing Battlefront 2.

2393
01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:17,360
I've enjoyed that little life play of it.

2394
01:45:17,360 --> 01:45:22,360
If they kept giving it a bit of life now, that would be great.

2395
01:45:22,360 --> 01:45:29,360
I'll say those missions where you had to destroy the enemy Star Destroyer, like you were on the ground until you retreated or advanced to the enemy ship.

2396
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:33,360
And then one side was holding the line from the generators and another was trying to push those.

2397
01:45:33,360 --> 01:45:35,360
Those were fucking fun.

2398
01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:38,360
We can play that on stream sometime.

2399
01:45:38,360 --> 01:45:40,360
Does it still work?

2400
01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:43,360
Yeah, Battlefront 2, it's the most recent one, I assume so.

2401
01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:48,360
I think it's still, I mean, if they made it free to play, that would have an active player base to this day.

2402
01:45:48,360 --> 01:45:49,360
Mandalorian?

2403
01:45:49,360 --> 01:45:51,360
This is difficult now.

2404
01:45:51,360 --> 01:45:53,360
It started phenomenally.

2405
01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:55,360
It started phenomenally.

2406
01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:57,360
First episode was awesome.

2407
01:45:57,360 --> 01:45:59,360
Amen, that's all I've seen.

2408
01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:03,360
It's gone a bit funky, I won't lie.

2409
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:08,360
It's one of those things where it's like certain shows, you can tell they need to...

2410
01:46:08,360 --> 01:46:12,360
I wanted to finish so it can stay good.

2411
01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:14,360
Freak off, Colin, I just saw the Doge meme.

2412
01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:16,360
Oh my gosh.

2413
01:46:16,360 --> 01:46:18,360
RIP Doge.

2414
01:46:18,360 --> 01:46:22,360
Yeah, just today there was.

2415
01:46:22,360 --> 01:46:27,360
And he says the damage BF2 did is not negotiable.

2416
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:31,360
I mean, I don't think it's that bad, man.

2417
01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:34,360
It was fun from what I played, so...

2418
01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:40,360
As a version of a movie tie-in game, it's way better than what most things are.

2419
01:46:40,360 --> 01:46:42,360
But...

2420
01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:46,360
What was the last one we did?

2421
01:46:46,360 --> 01:46:47,360
Star Wars Battle.

2422
01:46:47,360 --> 01:46:48,360
Oh, Mandalorian, sorry.

2423
01:46:48,360 --> 01:46:50,360
I feel like it's worse than V-Z, right?

2424
01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:52,360
It's the bottom of A.

2425
01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:56,360
I'm holding out hope it can finish strong.

2426
01:46:56,360 --> 01:47:02,360
Because right now it's not bad, it's just a bit average at the moment, the ending bit now.

2427
01:47:02,360 --> 01:47:06,360
Grogu became a new thing for moms to post on Facebook.

2428
01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:13,360
The fucking Luke Skywalker, I mean, maybe a bit of a weird CGI, but the Luke Skywalker return,

2429
01:47:13,360 --> 01:47:16,360
and he's actually not ruined as a character,

2430
01:47:16,360 --> 01:47:24,360
is still, I would still... that's like God Tier, that small section anyway.

2431
01:47:24,360 --> 01:47:29,360
I think with that being said, I think we're happy with that, are we always?

2432
01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:32,360
That was not too much arguing for once.

2433
01:47:32,360 --> 01:47:36,360
I mean, I think we all pretty much like Star Wars quite a lot.

2434
01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:40,360
Yeah.

2435
01:47:40,360 --> 01:47:43,360
We all liked Star Wars quite a lot, I'm sure, at one point though.

2436
01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:49,360
I think many people who have come to 40K, or like fantasy or stuff like that,

2437
01:47:49,360 --> 01:47:52,360
they were probably originally like massive Star Wars fans,

2438
01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:58,360
and then now, you know, we're inevitable, like Thanos, you know,

2439
01:47:58,360 --> 01:48:04,360
what started you led you back to me, I am inevitable.

2440
01:48:04,360 --> 01:48:08,360
Did you see, it says Mike GF at the time from Mando.

2441
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:10,360
Hated Grogu.

2442
01:48:10,360 --> 01:48:12,360
Glad she's behind you, brother.

2443
01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:17,360
I think I would kick Grogu in the rib.

2444
01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:23,360
Would you, Colin, throw Grogu as hard as you can and get that spiral going?

2445
01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:31,360
You know that scene in the first Avengers movie where Hulk is just like kind of whipping Loki around?

2446
01:48:31,360 --> 01:48:34,360
I think I would do that to Grogu.

2447
01:48:34,360 --> 01:48:36,360
He's like 100 years old, right? You can say that.

2448
01:48:36,360 --> 01:48:39,360
He's a baby.

2449
01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:42,360
He's like a 100 year old baby, isn't he?

2450
01:48:42,360 --> 01:48:43,360
It's a little baby.

2451
01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:44,360
Yeah, okay.

2452
01:48:44,360 --> 01:48:45,360
100 year old baby.

2453
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:48,360
Yeah, you're right. I would omniman him.

2454
01:48:48,360 --> 01:48:52,360
Think Grogu, think.

2455
01:48:52,360 --> 01:48:58,360
Well, with that being said though, I think everyone, thank you so much for joining us for the Hated Characters tier list

2456
01:48:58,360 --> 01:49:04,360
and the Star Wars Vitriol slash Nostalgia tier list.

2457
01:49:04,360 --> 01:49:08,360
God, I wish Star Wars hadn't fumbled the bag.

2458
01:49:08,360 --> 01:49:09,360
It's Disney.

2459
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:11,360
Can you really expect...

2460
01:49:11,360 --> 01:49:13,360
That's a sick bed, Colin. Thank you, Shane, bro.

2461
01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:14,360
Appreciate you, brother.

2462
01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:17,360
Level one clothes is in an MMO fighting game.

2463
01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:18,360
That's funny.

2464
01:49:18,360 --> 01:49:20,360
People might say he's 50 years old.

2465
01:49:20,360 --> 01:49:23,360
Yeah, correction.

2466
01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:29,360
We'll be hopefully back with new streaming software so Andy doesn't get ruined out by...

2467
01:49:29,360 --> 01:49:31,360
We got a donation for you.

2468
01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:33,360
Oh, thank you, brother.

2469
01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:39,360
If you do a most evil factions, can I suggest tier names be Eberus, I think you meant Erebus there.

2470
01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:41,360
Thank you. Pure evil.

2471
01:49:41,360 --> 01:49:45,360
I apparently can't see evil, so I'm right there with you, champ.

2472
01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:52,360
Necessary evil, Dick, petty villain, criminal, hero of another story, and just hero.

2473
01:49:52,360 --> 01:49:58,360
We might do a most loved for Warhammer characters as well.

2474
01:49:58,360 --> 01:50:04,360
Ryrus, Pepe, the feet tier list will come when the epic rap battle tier list comes. We'll do it on the same day, bro.

2475
01:50:04,360 --> 01:50:08,360
Bro, is there a feet tier list in every rap battle's tier list?

2476
01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:10,360
My God.

2477
01:50:10,360 --> 01:50:17,360
Because grandkids will watch this in the future, brother, and they'll be like, did you redo a feet tier list?

2478
01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:20,360
Yes, I did. Yes, I did, grandson. Yes, I did.

2479
01:50:20,360 --> 01:50:23,360
Colin is actually standing up on his chair right now.

2480
01:50:23,360 --> 01:50:24,360
Fuck you.

2481
01:50:24,360 --> 01:50:27,360
Little default.

2482
01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:30,360
Leave my man alone.

2483
01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:40,360
Do you guys, I heard this one the other day, do you hate it when someone, because obviously you guys are not the tallest, but when someone calls you king, does that annoy you?

2484
01:50:40,360 --> 01:50:42,360
Sometimes.

2485
01:50:42,360 --> 01:50:45,360
Because they know it's, they use it because they're trying to say short king.

2486
01:50:45,360 --> 01:50:50,360
My brother's the worst of it because he's like six foot one.

2487
01:50:50,360 --> 01:50:52,360
Wish I got some of that.

2488
01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:55,360
It's a lot worse when somebody calls you buddy.

2489
01:50:55,360 --> 01:50:57,360
That's a lot worse.

2490
01:50:57,360 --> 01:50:59,360
DJB's Colin is not 4'11".

2491
01:50:59,360 --> 01:51:02,360
He also says you got Boblish but LePonge.

2492
01:51:02,360 --> 01:51:06,360
You are right, Boblish, LePonge.

2493
01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:11,360
So I do owe you, I do owe something, although I did, I got a Spongebob's reward for something else.

2494
01:51:11,360 --> 01:51:16,360
Colin, give me a hello, says Colin is Hogswoggle from Donkey Donkey.

2495
01:51:16,360 --> 01:51:20,360
What the fuck is Hogswoggle?

2496
01:51:20,360 --> 01:51:23,360
Colin's a pocket prince.

2497
01:51:23,360 --> 01:51:26,360
Oh my gosh.

2498
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:29,360
He's my cute little boy.

2499
01:51:29,360 --> 01:51:35,360
Fat Ghost Production says I just noticed Colin is hiding his Tecna's body pillow behind his cover.

2500
01:51:35,360 --> 01:51:36,360
Yes he is.

2501
01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:39,360
Can we have the stream?

2502
01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:42,360
That's pretty by medieval standards.

2503
01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:45,360
Oh, pretty cool, I see.

2504
01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:48,360
Leave, damn.

2505
01:51:48,360 --> 01:51:50,360
Because people pay to insult you about your height.

2506
01:51:50,360 --> 01:51:52,360
It's just ridiculous.

2507
01:51:52,360 --> 01:51:54,360
There are better things to do than this.

2508
01:51:54,360 --> 01:51:55,360
Oh my god.

2509
01:51:55,360 --> 01:51:58,360
With that being said, thank you all for joining for the tier list.

2510
01:51:58,360 --> 01:52:02,360
We'll be back with Andy's voice next week.

2511
01:52:02,360 --> 01:52:06,360
We appreciate you all, thank you so much for the donations everyone gave.

2512
01:52:06,360 --> 01:52:08,360
And we'll see you guys all soon.

2513
01:52:08,360 --> 01:52:09,360
Appreciate you.

2514
01:52:09,360 --> 01:52:11,360
Catch you on the next episode.

2515
01:52:11,360 --> 01:52:12,360
Love you brothers.

2516
01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:15,360
See you next week for Fortnite.

2517
01:52:15,360 --> 01:52:17,360
Oh, Crimson Glory thing for the two of us.

2518
01:52:17,360 --> 01:52:19,360
Buddy is my preferred term of endearment.

2519
01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:21,360
Buddy is my preferred term of endearment.

2520
01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:28,360
I call other people buddy too, but when it's like taller, like someone who's taller than me and they call me buddy, it's like, I could kill you.

2521
01:52:28,360 --> 01:52:29,360
How about that?

2522
01:52:29,360 --> 01:52:33,360
Have you ever, dare I say, has anyone ever done the horrific thing?

2523
01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:36,360
Have you ever like rested their arm on top of your head?

2524
01:52:36,360 --> 01:52:38,360
You're not taller than me.

2525
01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:40,360
Colin, have they?

2526
01:52:40,360 --> 01:52:42,360
Sorry, my wife is saying I call them that.

2527
01:52:42,360 --> 01:52:47,360
Eli, has someone ever rested their arm on top of your head?

2528
01:52:47,360 --> 01:52:49,360
Oh, my tall friends have done that.

2529
01:52:49,360 --> 01:52:59,360
They might, what my friend would, my friend who's like six foot four, whenever we took pictures in the gym, he would hold the camera up all the way up here and then take a picture of me so it looked like I was two feet tall.

2530
01:52:59,360 --> 01:53:03,360
Oh, this decent height, man.

2531
01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:04,360
Yeah.

2532
01:53:04,360 --> 01:53:05,360
Wow.

2533
01:53:05,360 --> 01:53:06,360
Thank you for the $5.

2534
01:53:06,360 --> 01:53:10,360
Oh, what the heck, Eli, bro, which is how it is.

2535
01:53:10,360 --> 01:53:13,360
DJ B's wife is five seven.

2536
01:53:13,360 --> 01:53:21,360
My wife is five foot three point eleven and I stand by, she thinks she's five four, but I'm this much taller than her.

2537
01:53:21,360 --> 01:53:24,360
Mine's five seven.

2538
01:53:24,360 --> 01:53:25,360
Sure.

2539
01:53:25,360 --> 01:53:27,360
Those corn tenacities wake up when people call them buddy.

2540
01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:29,360
Malot, mammoth?

2541
01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:34,360
Malot, is that like the bird?

2542
01:53:34,360 --> 01:53:36,360
It's an abominable drink, I was muted.

2543
01:53:36,360 --> 01:53:38,360
Eli's wife is a six foot ten.

2544
01:53:38,360 --> 01:53:39,360
Yeah, Andy, where we still going?

2545
01:53:39,360 --> 01:53:43,360
Andy hit the end button.

2546
01:54:09,360 --> 01:54:11,360
Thank you.

