We're live. There we go. We should be live. Hello, everyone.
Hello. It's Lorne Grimes, isn't it?
Yeah. Today we've got a super special.
We've got a super special episode for you all today.
Please let us know if our audio is all over the place because it might be.
But today we have a very special stream for you all where we are joined by Mr.
Mr. Chris Peachy Peach himself.
It's Peachy.
Hi. Hi. Thank you.
That's all right. How are you doing? How are you?
Good. Good. Just wrapped up a podcast with Louise and Rob, which is fun.
And I was down in Southampton with Liam Dempsey.
That was also amazing.
So I've had a busy week and then just been doing some editing.
So boring.
I can't remember when I went to uni in Southampton.
Haven't been there in ages.
I went past the uni.
So I know what that is.
It's not worth it.
No, it does look a bit of a dive, but it's fine.
Before we get into it, is there anything you want to promote or shout out?
Anything you want to talk about?
I mean, I've got a YouTube channel.
Yeah.
Go join if you want to watch.
Peachy tips. Yeah, just talk about tips.
No, I don't. I talk about painting and a little random stuff.
Yeah, I mean, I'm rubbish at self-promoting.
So I let others do it.
You've been doing quite well.
I mean, you've been at it a couple of months now
and you're already at 20,000 subs or something like that.
Yes, launched on the 1st of March.
That was my goal.
And now it's like a month and 10 days.
It's going well. It's going well.
The thumbnail game is really good, by the way.
I thought my thumbnails were rubbish because I have no idea about the internet.
I just went with cheap and cheerful white background, black text,
a picture with my face on it somewhere.
So that'd be fun.
I like Squidmar, his ones.
I think he's definitely someone who's found the winning formula
in terms of, damn, I can't copy him for anything, but he has it down.
I'm so jealous.
That paint recent work guy, I think he has my favorite thumbnails.
Colin's got a huge fan of them.
I'm a big fan of my thumbnail of image from artwork done.
Did you ever consider putting text on your thumbnails, Colin, at any point?
No.
Look, I talk about whatever, I get a picture of whatever, I'm good.
I've done my duty.
Just pointing out, some people are already saying the bed is not made.
Oh, I'm sorry.
They're always dogging on Colin about not having his bed made every time.
All the time he was like, kinda true, dogging man.
Are you on the right microphone, by the way?
Oh, maybe, do I sound like a...
You sound a little bit like...
To be fair, before we joined, Colin and Howe were like,
Andy, you sound like you're in a well.
I was like, oh.
I'm trying to find out why.
I think I probably have to leave, oh no, I have to change over here.
No, I can't, I have to leave and come back.
It's spectacular.
We are nothing but professional in this industry.
Well, while Eli's gonna get back to us, so shall we boot up the tier list we have done
made?
I think it's this one.
Yes, there it is.
Ah, we should explain what we're doing as well.
So, today...
That might be helpful.
Right, Eli, you back, are you?
Yep, no longer in the Xbox live chat.
Yeah, sounds crisp.
Oh, there it is, my finest kitchen table and car.
So, today we're doing something a bit different.
We have all, well, all of us have taken photos of our miniatures for me, miniature, and we
now have made a tier list, which you can see is top is Boingob.
Praise be to Boingob.
Wait, does Pete, do you know what Boingob is by the way?
I was gonna ask, I have no idea what that means.
Boingob is, we have to explain this every time and we love it.
It's the squig god from Age of Sigmar that I had a laughing attack learning about for
probably 15 minutes straight.
I don't know why, I just found it so funny.
It's the god beast of squigs who...
Yeah, he's beautiful.
He died by trying to eat the sun.
Eating the sun.
That's great.
He got rotisserie chickened immediately.
That's amazing.
So that's, and he's now like our sort of figure of worship.
We all gather in places and send praise to...
So everything is really good, it's Boingob.
Very rarely used, but the Boingob tier is pretty amazing.
Boingob died for our sins.
We also have good, okay and fine.
I'm glad that you held yourself back from adding garbage or something.
Oh no, no, no.
To be honest, I know that Pete is a nice fella, so I was like, if we have those there, I'm
sure it'd just be like, oh, I don't want to put it there.
Yeah, yeah.
Not like that.
It's an absolute dog crap tier, if we really want to.
Don't bring it on the spot.
Disappointment to the family tier.
But here they are.
These are our miniatures that have been supplied.
You can probably tell this, depending on the background who sent them in.
The finest of kitchenware.
Two pieces of paper.
Yeah, yeah.
So I guess we'll just start off with how they are here, if that's okay.
So the first one we've got is this Magnus the Red.
I'm wondering if I can teach you first.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I see two of something.
I'm not a big fan of the best miles being first because it sets the standards very well.
We have to fight this uphill battle.
I think they should go last, personally.
So this is the first one.
Oh, smart, you dropped it in there.
Nice.
Oh, that's very nice.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I can see that.
It's so over, guys.
Should we just explain who's is who so we can talk through it?
Because yeah, I might as well.
Okay, this one is mine.
Okay.
The first, what is that?
Eight?
I think technically seven because I think I see a repeat.
The first seven are all hells.
Here he is.
Beautiful Magnus.
Very fancy schmancy stuff.
I don't have an excellent camera, but this was good to me.
This is like my first big centerpiece one.
I was interested in just sort of sticking with the normal color scheme, but my Thousand
Suns all have a, like I only prime Thousand Suns in purple.
There's no black really on the model apart from I think maybe the half part.
But yeah, this was just like my first attempt at a demon primer.
Your first attempt.
I was like, sorry, I did at a demon primer.
The mods killed this guy.
This is like my first big model though.
Everything else I have is small basically.
I've never run before, but I'm just going to do an ultra marathon.
I've heard they're okay.
We actually did this blind drunk.
Yeah, we have a good donation.
A DocuMan USA spending his well-earned five dollars to say, at the stripped club, straight
up dorking it and by it I mean, well, my peanuts.
Wow.
What the hell does that even mean?
Legendary tweet, bro.
Welcome to Lorekrimers.
It was a post that was going around.
Ah, I see.
There's basically the whole theme was sticking with reds and purples, highlights of greens.
I've got an idea.
Purple and green are nice.
I mean, sometimes the base is like a frame of a painting.
It's there to embellish, not overpower.
So don't dish your base.
So you've done some OSL.
So I can see some object source light in there where you glaive and you've got like some
glowy around his face by the looks of it.
Obviously I'm only working on the image I've got here.
It's a little bit pixelated when I'm seeing it.
Yeah, I don't have the best camera, unfortunately.
It's insane.
I tell you.
His hands, got some glows there.
I mean, you start from purple and you go up to white.
I mean, that's an insane choice.
You pull up to the freaking kindergarten art competition.
Michael Angelo is showing up.
I mean, that's insane.
I mean, it looks great.
I mean, you've got like all the colors are in the right places.
There's nothing going over the lines.
So that's good.
It doesn't show up as well, but on his muscles there are striations.
There is like line work on the muscles, but it...
I can't mark you for that because I can't see it.
So I'm afraid I can't mark you on that.
The eye, his only has one eye, doesn't he?
It does.
And that's the glowy one.
Can we cycle through our models so that we don't have to do a one hour straight of Hal?
So the next one you want me to put up is...
We'll do one of each.
One of each.
We'll go one of each.
Alright, so do that guy.
He's easily the worst, but he has the most sentimental value.
The fingers no work guy gets asked here for sure.
Oh, are we doing...
Star Wars one of the worst.
Do the Star Wars fella.
That's just a...
Already one mate with Star Wars.
I know, isn't it?
He's not great, but it's a Hero Forge mini of a Star Wars D&D character I've got.
Nice, nice.
So one of the first time...
I think it was especially the first time I ever tried painting with white, which that gave me some struggle.
Right.
There's a channel called P.T. Ticks which goes on the map, depending on what.
You might want to check it out.
Definitely gonna need to be doing that.
Carry on, carry on.
Sorry to interrupt you.
You're still talking about this...
Is it a Chiss?
Chiss?
Yeah, it was a Chiss Sith Lord.
It was an all Sith campaign because everyone independently was like, yeah, I want to be a Sith.
And the guy running it wanted to shoot himself because that was not what he planned at all.
But yeah, I had made a through together the model on Hero Forge, had it come unpainted.
And that was one of the first times I tried painting something.
So everything on there was no Hero Forge paint, which probably shows.
I like the idols.
So this is your first model, is that right?
Not my first model, but I think it was the first where I wasn't following a color scheme.
I'm just gonna go nuts and see what happens.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So talk me through your white.
What did you start with with that?
So I think it was a Corax white.
I think everything here is gonna be like a Citadel paint.
I want to say...
Was this over a white undercoat?
Was this like over black or gray?
I think it was like I did the spray can, like the spray primer.
So I did that.
And then I...
It's been so long and I can barely remember what I used.
I know it was Gene Steele purple on the lightsaber and some of the crystals.
I think Mephiston red for the cape and the little red crystal next to his foot.
What's the stuff on his cape looks like?
Is that some writing or a picture?
I think that's just the lighting.
Actually, I have the model right here.
I can just go grab it.
What am I talking about?
It's right here.
Shout out to Harry Band on the comments who's saying...
I have bad news.
I think that's just dust.
Oh, it's just dust.
It's either dust or the light hit it in a very peculiar way.
It's an interesting shading technique.
There's also, wonderfully, the purple bit has snapped off.
Oh, what?
I do like it has the flight ball on it.
When you get in the airplanes, you're like...
Yeah, there's no lightsaber on the Aero Ford, so I had to get creative.
I'm not going to make any judgments yet.
I'll see what else there is.
What else we got?
Danza gave a donation.
He says, guys, what's your favorite paint flavor?
Mephiston red.
Mephisto blue.
Mine's Corax white because it kind of has a bit of a minty taste to it.
Where we put in Colin's one then?
I'm going to say OK because there's reasons for OK.
Because effort is important as well as technique.
And I'm going to say, Colin, your eyes are top tier.
And the model is great too.
The model is great, but those eyes are pretty good.
The eyes...
The little blue space marine down there when we get to that, I think it was the first time painting eyes.
And you can see that it's...
Man, that man looks like he is tweaking on something.
He is wide awake.
This one, especially because it was my longest running D&D character.
I'm like, all right, I want to make sure he is as good as I can possibly make him.
So I was very careful with those eyes.
OK, what we got next then?
If it's me, this is the only one I have.
So this is going to be just the entire...
Because again, I have a painting thing in the works, shall we say.
Is this the thing you discussed about?
This is the thing that Peechie and the guys here from the law firms know about, but it's this...
This is actually the first...
This one I've just sent you is actually the first miniature I painted in 20 years,
because when I went to Warhammer Fest, me and Colin, we were at the bit where you just get to paint a miniature.
And for like 20 minutes, I just made this kind of blood angel red.
Maybe he's a Genesis chapter. We don't know.
He's just this red guy.
And that's the first miniature I painted in 20 years.
Wow.
That's good.
Did you play around?
I was going to say, did you play around with contrast with that?
No, I just kind of put the red on and then I put the black ink on and a little bit of the brown on the base
and also the left pouches and stuff.
I did make a mistake where there's like a little bit of this like unplaint, which is brown.
Yes. Yeah.
Whoops.
I was going to mark you down for that, but...
It's like, what?
Is he got brass?
Because I couldn't tell if it was brass or brown from this angle, because it's got like a bit of a shine to it.
Not that that matters. Not that that matters. That's good. It's good.
I noticed you didn't pick out his eagle though.
The thing was, I'm not good at painting miniatures when they're all like assembled and these are pre-assembled.
And I was like, I can't get in the nooks and crannies. I prefer to paint it separately.
So you're a sub-assembly guy.
You're like, I see. I bet you.
That's cool.
Where do I put that? I think okay as well.
I'm going to stick okay because the F is there.
Mostly colours are in the right places, right?
There's a bit of colour bleaching in there, but you know what?
For your first model in 20 years, it's pretty solid.
I can't believe I'm the boss of the tier list, even if it's brass.
All yours are going in that one.
I mean, Hal, I didn't even say anything. They put it there.
I know. They didn't even let you write.
I took control of that one. I was like, I'm not letting this happen.
I was like, oh, and I tried to make sure that the light caught the whale.
Caught the whale?
Here's Eli's group of, I believe these are headhunters.
Ooh, headhunters.
I painted these a long time ago, but I do really like the models.
Are they Alpha Legion based?
Alpha Legion? Yes.
Nice.
Have I just got the...
Oh, Colin likes the Alpha Legion, doesn't he?
Interesting.
Oh, no, he likes the Spice.
Oh, right, got you.
I love them so much.
I did take two pictures of my models. I'm sorry.
So I like the idea of you sticking them on slightly.
So I can't tell if it's, is that sculpted base that you've glued onto another base?
Yeah, it was just regular base because when I got them back in the day, they were on the regular 28 millimeters.
Aha, I see what you did there.
Yeah. And so nowadays they are 28.
That's going to get extra points for innovation because most people just take everything off.
Well, all you've done is just like stick on a slightly larger base and make it look like, you know, he's on some steps.
I like that. I like that.
Oh, this is going to save my models.
So I reckon, oh, what's the categories again? We've got fine, OK.
I mean, you know, you've got Silvys on there. They look like Alpha Legion. I'm going to go with good. I'm going to go with good.
Nice. Your Alpha Legion.
Mostly for the base logic. I like what you did there.
I did three colors. I found a forum in 2014 to tell me how to paint Alpha Legion when I was 15 years old and followed that for life.
Yeah, I did Alpha Legion for the studio and it was convoluted as hell. I wouldn't recommend copying.
Do you have a favorite Legion, Chris?
I do. I have two for two different reasons.
Lore, Imperial Fists. Yeah, I love Imperial Fists. And then the color scheme. I really like the Emperor's Children. I just wish they weren't cocky and weird.
Eli's favorite is the Emperor's Children. He loves them because they're cocky.
I do. I was trying to find my nicely painted noise marine, but it was a bit mutilated, sadly.
It's quite lore accurate to be that.
Yeah, the rest of them were painted when I was like 13, so they look very bad.
I mean, I've worked out as I get older and I get more senile and can't focus. I can cover them in poo. I can cover them in poo.
That'll feel right.
We got a donation, by the way, from Roll4FiveEuros saying, I was just rereading Warhawk. Sorry, Colin.
It's a great book overall and I love the scene where Khan gets absolutely bodied by Sigismund. I like that bit too.
I do apologize. I also promised a shout out to the first nice thing someone says about Colin.
And it took like 10 messages before someone said something actually nice.
DJ B says, an actual compliment. Colin is the soul of lore crimes. He's not a good soul at all.
He's probably a slurred property. That's the nicest thing that we got in the chat after that.
Wow. Yeah.
She got a lot of signal there, Colin.
The memes we get, like the bed unmade memes and stuff like that.
The man is absolutely bullied.
All right. So I think it's time we return back to Hal. So this is Hal's next one.
There he is with the OSL again. Look at that. Now you're basing game. I'm liking this as well.
We've got some grass tufts in there.
Glow is out of his mouth. I do like sends a picture Andy. It's kind of verdigri.
It's kind of verdigri, but it's kind of glowy. What was your thoughts?
I literally did a randomized color thing. So I wanted to do, it's from my World Eaters, like small force,
but I didn't want to do anything like the normal, you know, just reds or anything like that.
So I actually just picked three random colors. So the base is actually just like a metallic purple.
Brown is all like, you know, the helmets and shoulder pads and things.
It's just a bit weird and different with like silver highlights.
You can't quite see it, but kind of like how on Nightlords, they have like the lightning effect.
Yeah, I can see a bit on one of his wrist and his leg. Yeah.
Yeah. They have that's with them gold as well.
Because it's what's the bit we're like in Japan where they break the glass or the balls and they remake it with gold.
Yeah. They did that in Star Wars, didn't they, with the Stormtroopers with all the cracks.
Oh yeah. Yeah. And then, yeah, it's just, I just want to be like different colors.
And then the top knot thing is greens. I placed them in like a weird tundra place because I thought I haven't done something like that ever.
So I thought, again, it's just to be like out of the comfort zone. Like this is weird.
It's weird to see corn in purple. I won't lie, but I kind of dig it. I'm digging it.
I don't know if it's like maybe they're getting a bit sort of, you know, slowness. They're not. They wouldn't do that, would they?
But now I like it. I like it. Because at the end of the day, it's not really about, I know it's brass, bone, like golds and all that kind of stuff.
But, you know, red, you get like purpley tones in red, like magentas and stuff. So I kind of dig it.
The eyes are magenta. I did have a, sorry, I'm going to keep talking about it. I had my Angron model.
I do have a donation. I'll get to that first though, by incoming back up. Thank you, God.
Boingob's strongest soldier.
He says, all hail Boingob, our rotisserie lord, the fried patron, the round king, the emperor of squeak kind, the most bouncy of all orcoids, Lord of the cooked, the one who have bounced over the bad moon. Praise.
My God. Heavy prey. It's actually getting like worse each time we do this. Each time we do it.
I was just going to say like, cause on my world eaters force, it's not done yet, but I don't have Angron. I have Ushiran, is it? The guy from Age of Sigmar, who's the vampire lord.
He's my Angron and he's again sort of similar colors, but then his like cape is all orange and stuff.
That's cool. That's cool.
I'm very excited about the thing. I kind of feel how needs his own, like his own sort of like competing against himself of each.
No, that one is called how is showing off hashtag.
Well, actually, you know, looking at that. So I'm going to say straight away, like Magnus should go first and then, and then that guy next. Yeah.
Absolutely. I like that. I like that.
Okay. So you did that. All right. So this next one is an interesting one because this one is actually quite important in terms of channels. This is the next one from Colin.
This is actually his profile picture.
Everyone knows what you do.
This is so funny.
It's a little guy.
He looks so angry.
So, uh, he is another first. He's the first one I painted because the first two model like kits I got was a stormcast and Primaris was three each the push to fit came up like six paints.
So he's the first one where it's like, all right, I just have a kit. I need to glue and assemble and don't have like the step by step guide on every process.
My All right, let's see how it is. And, you know, I just stand like my Krog blue the all that the standard gold paint.
You'll notice there's there's no.
What is it the Omega symbol on the banner. That's not because that's because I lost the transfer sheet. Yeah, yeah.
I couldn't find it to put it on. But, yeah, and then I needed a, you know, profile picture of YouTube's is like, well, I have this mini line around silly little guy glued glued another power fist on him because I had to and was like, well, might as well.
Funny.
And, yeah, he's a simple little ultramarine guy but very, very, very, very book as well. Is it Goblin Green on the base, like, no, I think that's a like Sterling modern, some one of those just.
Just, I know it's on the get in just I think it. Yeah.
And, well, I like him. I don't like the fact isn't ultra marine.
And I mean, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, what.
He's not on.
Marines and that's a Collins favorite.
I accept that I simply have the most refined taste.
And not everyone is so fortunate.
So I've got this awful legion.
I've got a little short coming out on the weekend about painting ultramarines.
You love that. So it's the only way to paint ultramarines.
Took it in the bin.
Well, you know, you've got your gold on that.
I do like the fact because this sometimes happens when people get like, you know,
oh, I've got a second power fist.
Sometimes it's the same arm and they stick it on the other side.
So you didn't do that. So that's good.
That was the command squad, isn't it?
That's from the command squad.
And the loincloth.
I think, yeah, because I had a it was the first two kits I got.
Just standard kits were like assault Marines with the jump packs
and just a tactical squad.
So I was like, well, I got some bits left over.
Let's mash them together.
I'm looking at it. I'm seeing neatness
because you got your key line on your banner.
You picked out his eyes. You picked out his teeth.
He's obviously grimacing.
I can't tell if he's squeezing something out or just really angry.
I like to think it's a he's angry because he's squeezing something out.
Yeah. Wow.
It's just because they've got powered suits.
Right. It's probably just fueling it.
Yeah, I like it.
I mean, you could have done with a second coat on your rim.
It's a bit streaky, but, you know, it's a minor point.
It's a little, you know, polish, extra polish for the next time.
So I think what's the rate I need to drop my screen down a bit.
I'm going to go with good. I'm going to go with good on that one.
It's cool. It's good.
It's iconic as well. It's pretty.
Really? It's iconic. Yeah.
When did like in war, just in war, I'm like history.
When did they stop doing like the green, like goblin green basing painting?
So it was going on for a while, even like green rims,
but we like different colour tops.
And I think it was probably and we think which additions came out
because in Iotero, there's some stuff with green bases.
I think after that, that's when it started changing.
So what edition was Iotero? Was that fourth?
Because I definitely remember the dark, dark Eldar being on goblin green bases
and the black Templars being on goblin green bases.
I think it was this next set after that, whichever, however that dates.
I think the heavy metal team were like, it looks rubbish.
Let's update it.
Has it been quite jarring to see, particularly with like the tones
you see like some of the posters, like Eli talked about this,
some of the older posters, they're very, very grim dark.
And then some of the stuff is extremely like in miniature form,
almost like silly and sort of, you know, like orcs particularly as well.
Like back in the day, it was quite jarring to see that the change
between like, oh, wow, they want to be taken seriously.
And then there's like, then there's this thing.
I think it's lost some of its charm a little bit.
I mean, I like the grim dark side of stuff. I like it.
It's been like, you know, horrid and not serious,
but just like a little bit like, oh, this is dark.
Gritty.
Gritty. That's a good word, gritty.
But I kind of miss some of the charm of some of the old stuff,
like, you know, like funny squigs for different occasions.
And weird looking demons that all had names.
Every demon had a name in the old days and stuff like that, you know, like.
And then the fat patriarch on the throne.
Yes.
Yeah. You know, I mean, I suppose it does come out every now and again
with like the the night lord, not the night lords.
I've got seen the night goblins and the goblins and stuff.
And you just say, we get a little bit of it.
I've got the Goppa Palooza.
They had some fun, fun things.
So yeah, I mean, and again, but I think, you know, it's right to do it
because it was off its time. But awesome.
I mean, Sherlock Clouseau, the Inquisitor.
Although I understand why that one was retired
because that's 50 different copyright lawsuits waiting.
What was his name? Sherlock Clouseau.
Obi-Wan Sherlock Clouseau.
I miss that guy.
Oh, yeah. He was cool.
Tisdy was bring down the hammer.
Nice, nice highlights, by the way, Colin.
I've just seen the back picture. Didn't see that before.
Good highlights. Yeah.
This one's quite a spitting leaf out like this one.
Yeah. The base is not done, but it is.
It's Demon Prince, Alpha Aries.
That's the idea.
The wings are from the Ozzyark Bone Reapers and the spear is from
a Dark Elf Dreadspear.
And then it's just like a Primaris Marine with a Dark Angels.
No, it's Angraan. That model is actually Angraan, like the old G.
Because I had my one guy just like gave me his Angraan model
and it was kind of like it was already kind of butchered.
So I just butchered it some more and I put the spear on and stuff on.
And yeah, he's got he's walking on his dreadnought.
But yeah, the base is very sad.
The base needs to be painted. But, you know, I mean, instantly
it's got like a presence because the wings give a really nice
silhouette and having that spear coming out, it's terrifying.
It's like you've got this hood.
Is that one of the Dark Angel? Yeah.
Intimidator hoods. Yeah.
So instantly it's just like this whole sense of like a terrifying specter
walking towards you and just using like spare bits like, you know,
the dead body and then all the other random bits of detritus.
And it looks muddy and goopy.
It just doesn't look very nice place to be.
Even with the base not being painted, I'd be probably like squirting
the musk of fear if this guy was walking towards me.
So I think it was crazy.
I mean, probably all that brown on the basis from my battles.
No, I love it.
I think that's going to go into and I'll drop it down.
It's good again. I think good.
I'm kind of like, oh, I want to go another tier, but I don't know.
Could you talk about your boingob thing being just too high?
So you can make it very like even like boingob is like really good or excellent.
If you. Yeah, I mean, I think if it was, you know, the base is done
and maybe there's more on the wings, maybe if I was like the highlights of stuff
and going up at the moment, I'll go good.
I'll go good. In the middle.
Yeah. It's nice.
And these lights perhaps the other one next to more special than the headhunter's.
That's for sure. Yeah.
OK, back to how here we go. Why is everyone so annoyed?
I mean, every time we have a press you win and now you're doing all the models
and you're getting really good feedback in this.
There's a donation by, yeah, angry homunculus.
Five pounds. Thank you, brother.
He says, Hi, Colin, Jeff, any opinions on hallowed nights
possibly becoming the poster host of.
Oh, yeah. See.
Hmm. Hell, yeah.
Oh, yes.
I wish I had more. I just like them. They're cool.
Yeah, cool. I like how nice
we're in a strange time now with escape by all the fourth edition
AOS, sick by escaping models.
We're waiting for Lord Scrook has made it 31 years
since he launched.
Whoo.
And finally getting retired.
So is this yours now?
Is this yours? Yes.
Just at the bottom there.
Stop.
I'm not talking.
Oh, like an enamel bolt.
That was cool. I assume it's like enamel.
I don't know.
Oh, I just yes, I don't know what enamel really means.
You know, you know, like ceramic, I like it's like you get enameled mugs,
it's like like a bath, you know, you get it's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sometimes, you know, like the ad mech like to have like enameled looking.
I guess war gear and stuff.
Yeah, this is a model of Iron Father Farias, because my boy,
I started I literally bought models, started painting
at the very end of ninth edition.
And this was like I want to play Ironhands.
Everyone's like, Ironhands is so good in ninth.
Obviously, tenth, it doesn't really matter. But yeah, this guy's kind of
they're all my ironhands are like on a seabed thing.
So the base is like a turquoise and oranges, like corals and stuff.
And I just gave him a head from I think that's the
on the Black Templar kits as well, because I didn't like the other by standing iron.
He looks like he's half toaster.
If you're literally like he bit a toaster and that's how they make their heads
normally. And yeah, this is the first time I like tried to do.
I don't know what it is on the weapon, but it's like you blend it to white.
And yeah, and all of them have like a purple tinge to the ironhands.
And again, I don't I primed it in red underneath.
I can't really see it underneath is like very like a warm gray.
So I think I feel like it's like Master Chef. I'm like,
I mean, I'm loving the the river, the seabed kind of thing as well.
It's quite a cool idea.
Is the intention that it's like a like they're actually in the water?
Or is it more just like it's like the landscape looks like it could be.
It was more just ironhands are quite like standards.
You know, I mean, like they wouldn't be in a place like that.
So and again, it offered something to contrast with
because there's bits of rust in between the armor joints.
It was orange.
And I know orange is like, I think, like the opposite of turquoise.
So I thought, you know, something something to make contrast.
No, it works really well.
I mean, it kind of adds that vibe as well.
Like when you see like naval stuff and you've got like all like the docks
and it's like that greeny sort of algae kind of stuff,
then you just got rusty things next to it works really well.
But I also like how his weapon feels a bit cleaner.
So like the silver is on the weapons a bit more shinier,
a bit more like looked after.
But like Randy's all these like power arms.
So it's just like, yeah, completely covered in rust.
That's really cool.
And the blade really pops out as well.
I guess I tried so hard on the blade.
I've never done that before.
I was like, please.
Well, I mean, it's hard to go between that and Magnus,
but I'm going to have to stick him in the middle between the other two, I think.
You know, it's pretty.
I try not to take too long.
That's enough about how let's move on.
So this next one.
Oh, no, it's Eldar.
Oh, yeah.
And in. Yeah.
Unneeded.
Yes. I'm trying to help out.
DJ V's made a bingo card and it's like one of the things
when Andy HCL doesn't find out how to do this guy.
I love it.
And you know, this is great.
Favorite models.
Is this you, Colin? You done this?
Yeah, this is Colin.
That was great.
I like and and so it gets point straight away.
It's got blue on it still.
Yeah, totally.
Tell me through the truth.
Oh, is there some red on the edge of that blade?
Oh, that's cool.
Yeah. So it's Raythe Guard.
Raythe Blades are my favorite models and units.
So I tried to go all out.
I did some similar to Eli.
I except my kind of was in reverse instead of getting them on a smaller base.
I bought these like those little bases.
Did not realize they were the wrong size because I was still pretty new at the time.
So you'll notice like the one of them has that Armageddon dust.
The other one has like just a metallic color with a little bit of rust,
but it might be hard to sell.
Yeah.
I plopped them on the first base, realized it was too small,
then just kind of glued that other base on top like, well, he's he's a bit taller now.
Yeah.
It wants some peek over cover.
But I I started with the Raythe Bone primer,
did some I think it was Averland Sunset, I believe is the base yellow.
Yeah, that's correct.
I did the same with the I can't remember the name of the blue.
I think it was like the base.
I ended like the blue, but I was like, can't all blue.
Is it can't?
Yeah, yeah, I think it was Cantor blue for the little waist cloth.
I think it was like Lothern Sky.
And then the little gems along are one of those.
I can't remember the name of it, but it's those you put first.
You put like lead belcher or something on down and you go over with a little
It's the gem paint colors.
Like, yeah, yeah, I know.
Yeah, I did.
I think I put a little bit of all those on those models.
I put the the ones with the axes and the four shields get the blue one.
The other Raythe blades that have the swords have red gems throughout them.
Yeah. And then I used I think it was Drukey violet for the axe shade.
Make it a little bit purple and yeah, it falls nicely.
The little the little
might be kind of hard to tell, but the little emblem on the waist,
the one cloth is free handed.
It's a symbol for Warhammer fantasy.
I paint on my Eldar if I can find the space for it.
Nice. I'm free handed as well.
That is very, very cheeky.
Share enough now, aren't you?
Share. Yeah, I'd have some heavy hitter to bring to the table.
The show off here is exclusively for Hal, so we're not going to.
That's not just a kind of sanctuary.
Just you should be putting each boy. That sounds like pretty pretty boy.
I agree. I was thinking boy and girl.
But then if I'm going to boy and go up him, I feel I should boy and go up
the guy with wings as well, because he's pretty boy and girl.
A fairy himself. Yeah.
There we go. Perfect.
And Primark of Malice.
Hmm. Hmm. What?
Yeah. Lawsell.
That's around.
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What are your thoughts about Malachi McKycin being a total war
warhammer three? I didn't even know he was in the game.
To know I'm long enough to be so glad.
Now we just need a Max and.
Just Max, actually, yeah.
Was it Max?
I still have his Goblin Hewie somewhere in my cupboard.
Unassembled. I love that.
That's Malachi Malachan.
I did have two at one point, and I gave one away.
And that was way before he was taken off sale.
And I regret it now.
I didn't I didn't get into Warhammer till the
Warhammer fantasy as it was, was a pretty long gone by that point.
So I was a total war got me and was like, oh, dude, the Gouchic and Felix books.
I can't wait to buy these minis. Oh, man.
I know. I know.
Oh, you get got to actually just can't get Felix.
Yeah, I did. I do have got trick.
He might be making an appearance at about three.
Yeah. Oh, oh, I see. I see.
Oh, we got another donation before we move on from Donkeyman USA again for five.
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It's like a cracking car.
Wow. It's quite the.
Thank you. Thank you.
Someone donated money so they could say someone else.
Thank you for the.
Right.
Anyway, this is Eli's next miniature.
This is a lie. There we go.
This is a lie.
It's a sent like Omegon pretty much.
Then we have a various and Omegon.
Yeah. So it would be like my Terminator chaos lord.
Is the Dreadspear pieces again?
I think the cloak is from a chaos model, a space wolf model, one of the two.
And then his arm is actually from some random, some random space marine.
It's not from the Primaris space marine originally.
He was a pain to make. I remember that he's not as fancy as the other guy.
But yeah, yeah.
I mean, I like the use of the Dreadspears.
That kind of looks very savage as well.
It's it's good. It's a deadly looking spear.
It's got some reach as well. And he's got the reach.
What's the basis on Eli?
Is that just a it's like regular like 32.
I don't know.
I guess Terminator size base, whatever those are.
And then I have those little rocks from like an old base in kit.
And so I put them on there to be taller.
Oh, it's because the spear was too is be was too long.
So I had to put them on rocks.
Yeah, that's right.
How did you get the spear in?
Is that like was it just drill a hole and stick it through just by hand?
It was not fun, but it worked and it breaks.
And then I have to figure it out again.
Yeah. Yeah, it's tricky.
Yeah, I've had that a few times.
What I tend to do now is I for future references, I get a drill.
I drill all the way through the hand.
And then when I got this, because you get like you got you got your channel then.
And then I get both spear sides or sword sides or whatever you're doing.
And then if they've got like a hilt or a handle, I kind of shame it to a point.
Like if you're shaving a pencil or a stake and you can just like put them both in.
And then if you're using plastic, it will weld it together.
So you don't just have like flat flat.
You've got like a hole and then like it's kind of pinning in a way
because you've got like a a hole going all the way through,
not just like a whole partial on one side and a whole partial on the other.
It's all the way through.
You can just like it makes it more accurate that way.
I should watch this guy's YouTube channel.
Oh, shut up.
You can check out Pitchy's tips on PitchyDips at YouTube.com.
Check it out.
I've not done kit bashing yet, but yeah, I'll do that.
I'll do that. I'll cover that. I'll cover that.
But no, he's good. I like him.
I think he's not as fancy as the wing guy.
So I think he should be the tear down from that with the other dudes.
I'm good. I'm good.
Gooder than the normal.
I think my headhunter is more than him.
Not going to lie. Really?
More heart went into him, I guess.
There's also a helpless bullying.
Oh, oh. All right.
Our least favorite bit.
We do have a I think we have a double there, a double.
I didn't get a good photo of this one.
I'm annoyed. I think we'll find that first.
So the dress thing.
This is a what's his name?
It's Morven Vahl.
I think the name is Morven Vahl.
You've given a tartan.
Now you're showing off.
No, I don't know. I bro.
That was the that was the mod I worked on for this stream, though.
Didn't you paint?
I got didn't you paint that in one day?
Was this for your buddy?
I didn't pay it in one day. No, I did it.
This is this is for my friend as his model.
But I think this was this was in an hour.
His his thing was he just wanted it to be like black,
golden red and
Isis, I had a thing on Pinterest where I saw someone
had a D&D model with Tarsen on it.
I thought that looks like fun.
Ham was a little bit shaky, but I did it all right.
They the base is not that excellent.
Again, it makes the model stand out.
It's not stop judging your base.
The basin is important for a certain reason.
And you've done you can go over the top, I think.
And that's a problem.
Some people do too much to base that you're too busy looking at the base,
not the model.
And I'm looking at the model here.
The base is an accent to it, in it.
So, yeah, what you've done is I'm now thinking about doing a small squad
of sisters battle with tartan.
I would never have thought about that.
I quite like it. Yeah, I quite like the idea of life
because this is a freedom.
I don't see many 40k models with like tartan on it.
No, no, no.
There's a couple of guard regiments from the old fifth edition,
third edition codex.
I feel like the Emperor Spears would be a good match for some tartan.
Although they're pink, but it's like the closest we've got, really.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true.
Yeah, it's interesting.
I mean, I do a lot of Napoleonic, I paint a lot of tartan.
I've done a lot of Scottish regiments.
But I was just like on sisters battle, that's different.
I like different.
Hmm. I feel very good about myself now.
We're in two thousand orc army with all the tartan orcs.
I think if I had orcs, I wouldn't.
I'd actually paint them red like they did back in the old, old, you know, edition.
When they were first, they were first red, weren't they?
And then they changed them quickly to green.
Yeah. But I just, yeah, I want to try it on this, particularly this model,
because it's forgiving, because it's bigger than a normal sister battle.
So I couldn't. There's plenty of cloth.
And I actually really hate doing cloth because I never can get the highlights
right on like, like naturally.
So this is a good way to cover up my amateur cloth painting.
Smart. It's all about camouflage.
That's what I do in my paint.
And you just camouflage the things you're not very happy about or you struggle with.
A lot of my painting is flat colors.
And I just do some like free hand with checkers, chevrons.
And it's not highlighted. It's not shaded.
It's just like some free hand.
It's just like block team colors and people like, that's amazing.
I'm also taking age. And you're like, not really.
Might look like it, but you fell for it.
I do think I made a mistake with the red OSL in the middle.
I was using inspiration from another.
Like I didn't originally have a lot of the other colors in the OSL came early.
I think it might have probably been a blue as well.
But yeah, I mean, I will say there's a lot of colors going off on that.
So is it a tad confusing?
But that's sometimes the journey of painting when you've got reds, greens,
blues, yellows, because the gold kind of acts as a yellow can get quite eclectic.
But I still think it stands out quite nicely.
But I will wear it.
I guess you've put him Andy on that, on that.
Am I judging myself against myself now?
You're judging yourself against yourself here.
So I think I think number four out of the first four, it makes sense for more than Val.
But, you know, it's that I'm loving that idea of kilks, tartan.
It's great. Go for it.
Go for it.
Well, that's not about how.
Colin's next miniature.
Ooh, this is probably the one I'm most proud of overall.
Hmm. I love this model.
He's one of my first undead models I painted for Major Sigma, I think.
Oh, and then we've got a base on the base.
I'm liking this base.
That one, that one was just I had it and I the the instructions had it glued
onto the square is like, well, I guess I'll just put it on the square
and then throw it on the circle as well.
So I'm like, well, if I ever decide to start playing vampire
counts as well in the old room, like I could just take them off that.
There we go. Nice.
If I said the term wet dead and dry dead, do you know what I mean?
I do not.
We used to be an internal sort of like language in the studio
like Tomb Kings were referred to as dry dead, because a lot of the painting
when you do them looks like dry, sunbaked.
Whereas like vampire couch, you want to make them as wet dead.
So it looks a bit goopy.
It's a bit rusty, fleshy, verdigris, fleshy
and generally look a bit like, you know, wet.
And this guy's definitely using wet wet dead right now
just because of all the dark sort of like verdigris tones on the cloak.
But his armor is all very grimy looking and stuff like that.
So, yeah, I see him and I see wet dead, which is what I like about my white
lords, they need to be wet.
My skeletons need to have a moist zombie.
You got to have a moist zombie.
Yeah, that's a gross.
God have zombie juices of what is not right.
I think this was one of the first models where I got like a proper
grip on dry brushing, like wanted to try it.
So I don't remember if I sent a picture of the back like the back of his cloak
probably shows the best where I tried to fade like the greens and the blues
together to make him look all ethereal and spooky.
Yeah, definitely works.
Yeah, I like it.
The rusted chainmail, a little bit of gold for some shiny bits
made the rock nice and green and spooky and yeah, quite happy with that guy.
Where she put this. Yeah, I feel good.
It's good, but it definitely doesn't go to boing god with your
race race guard, race guard, race guard.
And race, race, yeah, yeah, there's elements to race, race, not night, race,
guard that makes it I'd say that's definitely going up.
So yeah.
Oh, where between that?
Oh, I think near the top.
Yeah. In the top of good.
We can't. Top of good.
We can't because of this.
No, that's right.
We got some emotional connection.
There are standards.
So there is prestige in that element to that particular model.
Yeah, which we're not allowed to tread on.
So the next is Eli.
Yeah, I believe this is another Alpha Legion.
Our Millis Dynet.
Oh, I'm going to see if I can find his special to me because it's one of the
it's one of the first models that I actually like put some effort into.
And he's not my best painted model, but
he's one of the first ones that I started painting decently.
Yeah, that's part.
I didn't paint the eyes, but I did do like
wash in the eyes with the skin to make it.
I don't know. He looks solemn.
So because I was too scared to paint the eyes.
I like to help.
I mean, that's that's why shades exist so they can do all the hard work for you.
Yeah, that's what I do.
I don't always paint the eyes of mine.
I just drop in a little bit of wash like you've done that.
I like the little red on his like little comms thing on his arm.
It's like a little red bit of glass or something like that.
Trying to work out what it is.
It was like a screen or a commie.
Yeah, that's cool.
Do you play that?
Yeah, I just haven't touched my chaos for a while because I
I did play them at the beginning.
I did play them at the beginning of 10th, but I found them like horribly boring.
So I just haven't really played them.
I played two or three games and just every time it felt super boring and the same.
So do you get time to play still, Chris?
Then do you play regularly or?
I mean, I normally paint like skirmish stuff now.
I used to do big vast armies and whatever.
And I probably like with that vast army, I played one or two games a year of it.
And it seemed like a lot of effort for very little reward.
Whereas now I tend to do a lot of smaller things and play lots of skirmish games.
So I do play quite a lot.
Not as often as some folks, but I reckon in a month, I probably get two, three games.
That's pretty good, actually.
Yeah, like most of us.
Yeah. So that war cry or guilty.
That's war cry.
Shatter point style, shatter point, a bit legion, sometimes like in a polonic game.
I did a 40K game on the indemnities channel the other night.
I had no idea I had to play 10th.
We didn't probably I don't think we even played 10th.
We just made up our own rules. It was great.
So, yeah, if I can, I'll try and I often teach people how to play war cry as well.
Everyone wants to play war cry in my local sort of area.
Like you teach that play.
I'm like, yeah, all right, I'll bring my kids.
I'm just imagining like street just like Mr.
Peachy.
I think I kind of feel like I'm on my own promoting war cry
when workshops should be doing it, not me.
Yeah, I don't work there anymore and I'm still promoting that game.
It's bonkers.
I think he's going up to good as well.
And see, this is your favorite.
I think he should go in front of the the undead guy.
I think you should go in front of the guy.
You take that because it's got like
sort of emotional reasons for it being good,
which is always a good thing.
I'm going to start welling up. Sorry, sorry.
Time to spoil everyone's fun again.
We're back to what I do wrong.
This model is very cool, to be fair.
He didn't put a lot of work into it.
You're obliterating us.
How has talked to us about this Armin probably five or six times
over the last few months.
I think when we before we even did like this channel, I mentioned
I was making this.
This is this is my first like kit bash.
Oh, wow.
This guy is your first model.
I'm not exactly.
Yeah. So you've used Mephisto, right?
You've used Mephisto.
Mephisto's body, the staff from Infernal Master, Thousand Sons,
because Armin's normal staff didn't really fit.
And yeah, then the Armin head on top of it,
because the the reason is supposedly right.
Thanks, Andy.
Armin like and
Mephisto like the most powerful sorcerers in 40K.
So it would be like if they won, would Armin like possess his body or whatever?
So like a, you know, he won sort of thing.
Because Mephisto is like, you know, Primaris frame.
Yeah. Yeah.
Honestly, his cape was red originally, but I again, I couldn't really
paint like texture or anything on that.
So I just ended up spraying white and then adding some tones to it, though.
I think you see some red on it.
Is that like color transfer coming through?
Is that intentional?
Is that like you put? Oh, no, no. Yeah.
Like it's that's just to do the contrast.
His like hand is glowing green like he's about to Lanish magic.
And then the red is more like to add interest to the cloth.
I kind of blends away and then it gets forgotten about, though.
I did. Yeah. Wet blend.
I actually learned that like a while ago.
Wet blend because the horns were originally like like brown, just like a normal ivory.
Yeah. OK.
And then I want to make it interesting,
but they probably need a bit more of a touch up, though.
But I was really happy with the kit bash on this, because I again,
I wanted to make something special for my thousand sons.
And he said he's all right.
I think the star's pretty weak, though.
I don't know. I don't know.
I'm not going to touch him again.
Like, you know, at this point, the bottle is done.
So I shouldn't add any more. Yeah.
Yeah, sometimes safe because then you can ruin it.
I think it goes between your iron hand dude and your
what's the cavalry guy, the evil one?
No, no, no. Lord Invokatus.
Yeah, because because there's something about your iron hands that looks really good.
And as much as I like Aramand in all the converting and this and the other,
there's elements that I think make the other guy stand out more.
I like him more. Obviously, you can beat him.
Yeah, he's just too horny.
Just too horny.
No, it's good. It's just yeah, this I think the composition and the
just the colors you use on the iron hands guy just pips it ever so slightly.
I'm really proud of that one.
But it's sorry.
No, no, it's like he's on the.
You could ignore me.
No, no, I'm quite proud of it.
But it's also like it's one of the ones I thought I should be the best.
It should have been my best model.
But it's not. I don't think I can make it better.
I'm not that with my videos.
I really like and I produce no one watches.
I'm the one I hated.
Everyone watches.
And why?
What is wrong with you?
Welcome to YouTube. Yeah.
Yeah. Just wear more revealing clothes on the thumbnail.
And then you.
But then again, bear in mind, Colin once did a what was it?
A 10 hour video of just Karl Franz going, Summon the Elector Council.
Yeah, it was only one hour, but I didn't.
OK, my personal favorite is my sly Marlbo explain video.
And it's the sly Marlbo screaming for the whole 60 seconds.
I guess you guys, some of you guys might not get that.
It's the tea to us from way back in the day.
Yeah.
So next up, we've got another custard boy.
Yeah. Oh, custard.
I see what you did that.
See what you did there.
We're not going to do this again.
Yeah, we did.
We did. We did a lot of streaming.
I was like, I mean, you've custard in the yellow is not custard.
It depends how much you use from the powder.
It's fine. It's true.
It's not wrong. Yeah.
Although a very power ranger, like, that's why I love it.
And it's great. Yeah.
I always think they look like they're not like ancient warriors.
More like like a power ranger.
It's a packet of Skittles coming to beat you to death.
They're super alien.
I I wish I remember how I made the base.
I know I started with Wraithbone.
I don't remember what I did after that, because I don't know why.
I think I like the base out of anything.
I like the stonework I did.
And I don't remember the combination of paints or what order I did it in,
which is a shame because.
Yeah, I don't know why I'm such a fan of that.
But yeah, it's just a should have wrote it down, man.
Should have wrote it down.
Should have.
Nice little nice little far seer
is getting into the swing of the Eldar.
I wanted to.
This is like some guardians of the first thing I painted.
I say painted, I never finished them because I got I tried to do something
with the weapons they had and it just didn't turn out too great.
So they've been eternally in a box since then.
They come out for games, a quarter painted.
But that was the first one I think I fully finished.
I was like, all right, I'm I'm confident now.
I'm not just going to try something different
and it's going to come out looking like ass.
Are you going to do gems on his helmet and shoulder pads?
Are they going to stay blue?
I think they're going to stay blue.
They go and forward like I'm going to do that under the models.
But since he was an earlier one, I painted.
I like to leave once I've done as is just it's I feel like it's a neat way to be there.
This is a this is what I was painting like when I first started.
I feel like, you know, it just helps me.
Try new things as a painter, nice comparisons.
Yeah, especially can refer back to like, you know, what what it was like
when you first did it, it's like I suppose, like produce the video.
You look back at your first ones because you can't change them
because you delete them, right?
And you're like, oh, yeah, I remember making all those mistakes.
And I did do this.
We've all thought about collective punishment is you have to watch your first video on stream
because and you hear like, oh, my God, I think I would actually that melt.
Yeah, I did. I did.
You see that when I used to train like the new presenters from the tournament
was just put like my old how to paint to any worries on horrible,
creepy, most of the videos are so cringe.
Even stuff like a year ago, I put I tend to recycle my videos into like shorts.
So that gives like people a teaser.
And I'll just the way I'm doing it.
And then the thing did this.
And then it's like, where's the gravitas, Andy?
This is rubbish.
So I think he's going to get good.
I think he's going to get good.
And I let Andy decide where because I can't decide because yes, I'm in the middle.
Yeah, that's fine.
So yeah, yeah, OK.
Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, yeah, OK. Right.
Horseman for the horseman.
Amdur Lord of Blades, Herald of Victory, my favorite Lord of the Rings model to use in the game.
Yeah, he's already going in boing gob.
I'm not going to look at him.
I'm not going to look at him. He's going to boing gob.
He's taking me to victory many a times.
So I'm going to do around here to get a boing gob.
You have your own tier. Don't be greedy.
It's on the bottom.
It's on the bottom because we're all bitter.
Apparently.
He's great.
Why is he your favorite and what is it about him that makes you favorite?
I just I mean, at this point, probably sentimental value.
I've played him a lot in like our doubles events and he has a lot of history
with against my other friends, Armys and stuff.
And I have these Easterling dice and every time because he gives a banner effect.
So I get a reroll in the fights that he's in.
And so every time I reroll that, I say, Herald of Victory.
And it always gets a six.
And he's just a very fun, very fun model to use.
Yeah, he gets free strikes against enemies when they strike against him.
And yeah, he's just he's always been reliable for me.
But you shout that out.
I've got a question for you.
Do you prefer the horseback version or the foot version?
There is only one correct answer.
There's only one correct answer.
It's that the foot version makes him kind of look like a like a Sith Lord
or something with a sword, which I do like.
But his horseback version is how he's always going in my Armys.
So I haven't even painted the dismounted version because I'm so confident in him
that he won't get dismounted.
I'm sorry.
You've not painted the best version.
So that's going fine now.
I'm sorry.
I'm joking.
His foot version is so cool.
Yeah, yeah.
I just always bring him on horseback with his Dragon Knight guards.
I like your confidence, though.
So that's good.
Yeah, he's never going to lose his horse.
Also, why is it we never get any White Scar's models on bikes?
I want Corsaro Khan on Moondraken.
Yeah, I don't care that.
I don't care about this.
I want Moondraken Corsaro.
Why is he on foot?
It doesn't make sense.
It was an option to take it back in the day.
You just had to make your own.
Yeah.
They just took it out now.
Never get that.
Never understood it.
So weird.
Anyway, a lot of things been streamlined, haven't they?
So not this guy again.
OK, leave me alone.
I tried.
Yeah, and it's infuriating because you're doing really well.
All right, we've got this chap.
Agrax Agaton.
Of the Salamanders.
Yes.
I don't know.
I mean, he just is what it is, really.
This one is pretty close to Boxart, I think.
So I don't really have any crazy to say.
I did like what I did on his stomach part here.
There's a slight wet leg.
I gave him a good belly.
This one is like, again, I just wanted the environment to interact heavy on the lower
half.
And then again, this one was just like, I just want to make it as close to normal.
I had a good painted miniature and that's basically it.
There's a couple of things, whether you've done it subconsciously or on purpose, I don't
know, but you've got a top and bottom sort of like, what's the word?
Oh, well, they sit well against each other.
Contrast.
Contrast, thank you.
Because you've got the fire above and then you've got the flammable base at the bottom,
so that works really well together.
And then you've got like you blew on one side and you blew on the other with the tip of
the flamer.
I say flamer, it's probably not a flamer, it's probably some kind of hand flamer.
Hand flamer.
Oh, cool.
And then you've got a little bit of light in where the blue glow from the hammer is
just like hitting his leg and the floor.
That's really nice.
I like the stippled effect you've done on the armour as well.
That's pretty good.
But yeah, balance, that's the word I was looking for.
You've got like this balance from like the top to the bottom and the sides to side.
That is, that's quite a, that's quite a good paint job.
And you said, oh, it's just, you know, just copying the box art.
I think, I think that's great.
Well, it took me 10 minutes.
No, no, this one I actually put a lot of effort into, but it wasn't like most of my stuff
is out of, like, I don't really have a comfort zone.
It's more just, yeah, that's just a bit weird.
Like none of, that's the most normal looking miniature I have.
Well, wherever you say that, that's just the most normal looking one.
I think that beats the Ironhands.
So in my opinion.
Right.
This is, this is, this is Colin's last miniature.
So we're going out with a bang for Colin's.
The dwarf, the myth, the legend himself.
That there dwarf.
There we go.
Oh, there he is.
There he is.
I still need to build my version of this.
Look at that.
You've even done all the base as well.
Some people chicken out and do a smaller version.
Nope.
I, I saw the largest one and the gotchkin Felix books are my favorite, the Warhammer
books.
I'm like, I am calling everything's getting paid.
I'm going all off.
Oh, you got back.
There's a back view.
You didn't see that.
Nice.
So I'm looking at both now on my browser.
Oh, those poor skaters.
They've had a bad day.
Bunny rule.
They've had a bad day.
Going through it.
Does your love of skaven, which one is higher, your love of skaven or love of gotchkin Felix?
Not gotchkin.
It's not even close.
His beard looks great as well.
I like all the highlights of his beard and his hair.
Have you thought about ever like attempting tattoos on him?
I, that's like one of the few things I think it might go back to.
I want to get a bit more practice freehand first.
Yeah.
Like some of the, probably throw together some more wraith guards soon.
I want to get a bit more practice like with the little symbol I have with that first before
I start with the, any tattoos.
So a good, a good way to do face paints and tattoos is just to use contrast paints.
Cause you've already done like the base coats, shades and the highlights on your skin.
If you just get a contrast paint and then once you got familiar with like the design
you want to do, whether you like paint it on like a tile or a base or something like
that, it kind of like settles in the recesses a bit darker.
When it's on the highlights, it gets a bit lighter.
So naturally the contrast paint will do all the shading and the highlights for you.
Cause you've already got that underneath from the skin.
So I've, I've only used contrast when I do war painting tattoos now because it does all
the hard work for me.
So yeah, it's like ultra mean blue or whatever.
And you can just like pick out like whatever design you're going for.
Definitely have to give that a shot.
But don't do it on him straight away.
Do it test.
Definitely do it.
By the sacrifice.
The sacrifice.
The one time I used, used contrast paint was with those, that assault kit Marine, this
like second kit I got.
And I did not understand that contrast is not a shade.
So I was like, Oh, I'm going to get a nice little red touch to the recesses.
And then that man was all red.
By that point, like those models, I don't know why, but every time I went to paint them,
I just got upset and didn't want to paint anymore.
So I just gave up.
I was like, he's, he's pure red.
His jump pack is pure gold.
He's I see.
I don't care anymore.
It's not just that it's like, they're not like shades.
There are some that are a little bit thinner that are a bit like shade and there's some
that are contrast and there's some that are just like super strong and just go over everything.
It's so bizarre.
I don't remember.
It was like once something red and the Citadel contrast, I threw it on and it was like, well,
this is I'm done now.
I don't want to think about it.
I'm just going to paint him all red and he will forever go with the shame.
I think he's going to have to be boing gob.
He'll go just in front of Amdur, just in front of Amdur between the winged eye.
Yeah.
Right.
Now back to Eli.
Oh, we've got, we've got actually quite a few of you like to go.
Yeah, sorry.
I'm, I'm putting too many.
This is a Master of Karna and Harajan Warrior.
More Lord of the Rings.
Yeah.
It's my favorite game ever.
I have, I have the Golden King of Harad here.
I have to build them and paint them still, but he does suck big time, but I want to make
an army of him.
And that's why these guys are blue and purple because the Golden King is, has blue robes
on and the idea is that they're super rich.
So I used gold for the white watchers belt thing and stuff in his hilt and I dry brushed.
I don't know if you can tell, but I dry brushed his sword with gold.
So there's like little gold specks.
I think he has an earring too.
But yeah, I, the base of the watchers on is not great, but the other guy's base I was
pretty happy with.
Yeah.
I like these guys.
I like all the texture on it as well.
Like with the, looking at the Archer is a great example.
Like, you know, how you picked out the purples, the blues and stuff.
I'm sure we did a color scheme like that for one of the books, like the Battle Host books,
which is like blues and purples.
You know, you get like the big fat guys with the, yeah, the merchant guard.
We did a bunch like that in that color scheme as well.
Oh yeah.
No, these look great.
Oh, where to stick them?
Where to stick them?
I think they're going to go in top tier again.
I think that's all.
Sheesh.
Lord of the Rings is winning me some.
Yeah.
I actually, cause I like the way you've got the texture on it.
I think it beats your wing guy.
Oh yeah.
I'll take it.
I think so too.
I need to get some Lord of the Rings models.
They're so cool.
People harp on them cause they're old, but you got it.
You got it.
In fact, just to stay volatile for another round, let's do another one of yours.
I was thinking, was it Andy Warhol who did the Elrond one with the horse hair?
Oh yes.
Yeah.
I saw that and I thought, my God, that's like...
Oh, Kazza Guard.
He's a little guy.
He's a dwarf right now, so.
Yeah.
And I just threw him in there.
Big fan of the Kazza Guard.
Although a lot of my axe is bent off of him.
I'm a big fan of the Kazza Guard.
I'm a big fan of the Kazza Guard, although a lot of my axe is bent off eventually, which
is a shame.
Oh, yeah.
No, I know.
Tough, tough world, isn't it?
Yeah.
I don't have any more for this guy.
He's just a nice looking dwarf that I enjoy.
Yeah.
I like it.
I like the gold.
It's got some green.
Got a bit of colour on there.
He looks great.
What, I'm going to go good?
I'm going to go good?
Don't know where.
I'll let Andy decide.
We do have a donation by Angry Homunculus.
They said...
Thank you.
I would be on the second monitor of the Skaven that is going through it.
Just a big chunk of Cathedral City cheese.
Like a motivational bottom text photo of like, thank wall saying something.
I would like to...
But the cheese thing.
The UK has got to throw hands because the cheddar didn't even make it into the top 100
cheeses, apparently.
Wow.
Bro.
I don't know, bro, the UK has got to throw hands at somebody because that honestly is
offensive.
Who do you expect me to fight over a cheese list?
Bro.
I mean, Parmesan did make it number one.
Parmesan?
Well, I don't know about number one, but it does make pasta.
The cheddar.
What are you talking about?
What is this cheese?
Because Andy said cheese.
Cathedral cheese.
Cathedral cheese is...
I think脇owientears.
Riemdow boys.
Team guy. Yeah. This was my attempt at doing like grim dark style. I've got a kill team
of basically like they're kind of blood angels, but they've got a bit of a, you know, like
sort of, I couldn't decide what twist it was going to be. So there's a bit of like a white
scars ish twist on them to the helmets, a printed part.
Oh yeah. Yeah. Actually,
Is that a Puppets War one?
It is. Yeah. And yeah, this is, I mean, it's the Blade was the first time I tried to attempt
any like proper, I don't know what it's called, but the one where you like highlight up to
it. So it's not the best one.
It's definitely got a name and I just call it like a shimmer effect. I don't know if
that's actually the official name.
But yeah, like it's, I grimey'd this one up and yeah, it's sort of fitting into a spot.
And then I painted Nightlords as like my first like getting back in the hobby. I painted
Nightlords up and I really liked that color palette. I thought like candle blue all the
way up to the, you know, what I'm Duncan Rhodes video recommended as like the highlights.
So I just thought, actually I liked that, but I think I'd like it on a, you know, Loyalist.
And yeah, that's got, it's not much to this one, unfortunately. I haven't been able to
play them like properly yet, but there's a whole squad.
I like, I like, I like the different head style. I mean, I don't know if it's like blue blood
angels, if that is the case, feels very posh.
Blue bloods, blue bloods maybe. Very posh. I'm just looking at the paint job. I don't
care about the law right now. I'm just like looking at all that rust and stuff.
I tried to make the shoulder pads really grimy and stuff.
Yeah. I love the dead death guard guy on the base. That's just like, he's been there so
long covered in dust as well. Grime.
There's a little mushrooms in front of him. The angle doesn't do it justice.
Oh, is that what they, I see.
Yeah. They're like the little mushroom parts around the base and then there's like rust
and all that stuff. So it's like a weird swamp, like a dead swamp, like actually dead and
it's not a swamp anymore. Yeah. That's an older one though.
An older one. That's good.
But we've got three donations. Thank you guys. First one, an insane mad scientist fellow
in our chat, Donkeyman USA. I kid bash rats and mechanicists for rat supremacy. That is
crazy. Crusher, the Croc's gore, two dollars. Thank you. Excited for new Skaven mini, or
I mean, Bok. It's been a while since I heard of Bok. And Zeon for the two pounds a year,
I don't remember. Home now, how many Sharp references have I missed?
Oh, I'm zero. I've not mentioned Sharp once.
Sean Bean. Where is he? Sean Bean.
He's also got a bingo. So good for him.
Good for you.
He says, thank you for being so odd. Sorry. Anyways.
I never watched Sharp until I actually saw YouTube clips of it. And then I went to go
watch it. I have purposely linked a Sharp video at the end of every single one of my videos.
That's really a state for me to promote myself, but I'm not, I'm not going to do that. And
I promote Sharp at the end of each of my videos as well. It's great. What, 91? First aired
on ITV. That takes...
These three weren't even born by then.
I, and I went lad and I had hair. I was in secondary school.
I was one year old. It's still great. It still holds up though. It's still really good.
Yeah. I mean, it's like, you know, people go, oh, it's not got a great budget because
you know, there's like 50 men in battle. And you're like, yeah, because it was like the,
I think it was Ukrainian extras. They clearly afford so much. And I like it. I like the
scale. I think it's fine. It's not bad in some shows. Yeah. Even now. Where to put him
though, I think we're sticking behind Morgan, Morgan Vowell. I like him, but he doesn't
beat the, it doesn't beat the kilk, the tartan. He's not bad. He's just not as good as the
rest of them. Just to let, just to let you know how, by the way, you are, you are boing
god plus. Oh man.
He doesn't need that. He doesn't need that ego boost considering what he does to us at
the quiz where he wins every quiz we do.
Yay. That's not true.
There we go. Because that's the second Morgan Vowell I've put in my bag. So that's all
you get. But the last one for Eli is the junkie man and the small.
These are Talisman models. Very special to my heart. Talisman is my favorite game in
the whole world. I sent a picture in the discord, Andy, if you have that, because my wife and
I actually used our Talisman models as centerpieces for our tables at our wedding.
Oh nice.
Yeah. So we had those and hopefully Andy will send you the picture because I'm also very
proud of those. Yeah. Yeah. We use those guys and then I didn't showcase my other ones,
but I, yeah, I've painted a few. I love Talisman. That's the Minotaur and the Barbarian.
As I say, he's got strong sort of like hero quest Barbarian vibes, this guy and Warhammer
quest Barbarian vibes. Honestly, I don't remember the Talisman figures because I remember having
the game, it was all card because you used to have like a base and a card character that
you'd slot into it. So it must've been the addition after that, but these all look great
and Warcry too. I love these.
They're fun models.
They are fun. There's a lot of blood on that guy's mace. He's had a good day and someone's
had a bad day. That is great. I don't, honestly, I don't recognize these models at all.
Yeah, they are a supplement or like whatever, expansion characters.
Yeah. Yeah.
Oh great. Yeah. They tie nicely, nice skin, nice sort of monochromatic tones with your
blacks and your grays and your silvers and stuff. I like it.
I think I dig a little bit heavy on the, on the white dry brushing on the Barbarian, but
it was quick work. So it's okay.
Who cares? Do you care? Do you care? Do you have fun?
No.
That's right.
I think, I think they should go, I still like your Watchers of Kana. I think they should
go somewhere between your Watchers of Kana and your, oh, I don't know if there's still
a bit of Demon Prince. I think maybe, maybe Amda, somewhere between Amda and Gotrex. They're
cool. They're cool. But.
All right. Just to, Hal, I know we've been inclined to meet you. Should we go to Boing
or where should we put Magnus?
I mean, Magnus is going to be at the front, isn't it? He's going to be at the front.
Or the Mr. Cuffin.
I have an advocate.
I mean, you know what? I'm going to, I'm going to step away from this and I'll let you guys
decide what should we Boing up and what should we.
I mean, like objectively, the rest of you guys have to decide. I just put Magnus up
there. I'm having a warm miniature there. So that's definitely Magnus.
Oh, I'm very proud of that as well.
It was great.
And that's the least.
They take so long. The huge models to do just because there's always a little, like even
though you can cover a lot of the blank space, you know, like with like larger areas and
stuff like that. I just found that there's always like, there should always be more detail
and I never want to put the miniature down. Just, I always think like I've seen particularly
someone else's Magnus I saw where there was a really vibrant like teal and then the skin
was like a, just like a mid purple sort of thing. So nice. Intensely, intensely jealous
of other people's painting skills.
So it's something to check out if you have it on Instagram. I don't think he has a Twitter.
There's a guy called El Miniaturista and he does like OSL like object source lighting
stuff really well. And all the stuff he basically uses lots of whites, these high pigment colours
and they look like they're glowing. And he did a thing with Magnus red and it kind of
glows in the dark as well as just being like really vibrant sort of colours. So if you
ever on Instagram and type in, I think it is El Miniaturista. I pronounced it wrong
because he's Spanish so I'm murdering his mother tongue. But his painting is insane.
I'll link him with Andy in a bit on the Discord and then he can share with you guys. But his
stuff is insane.
I will apologise that I don't have any minis but just as teaser, I've got some stuff that
I haven't paid to say.
Are we allowed to know what's in it?
Not yet, not yet. Wait till the big special day.
I've told you guys about it so you guys say.
Big reveal.
I will say though, we have got a quick 12 all of all Primark miniatures. So do you have
enough time for another quick tier?
Well, there's no message from Mrs Peach yet so I have, yeah.
To be fair, we're not gonna be spending as much time but we've got a simple one here.
A heart on the line.
And I'm a bit annoyed because this was a pre-made one and Jagged Time is missing so I had to
find him and put him in. No, that's, that's annoying.
He was the last one.
He was the last one but still it's like how could you forget my boy. So yeah, they're
all in order. So Lionel Johnson number one.
I really like this one.
It's scaled really correctly though as in like it looks, some of the other ones I feel
like they look a bit odd. Like just a little bit, you know like it sets off your, what's
that thing in, you know when something doesn't look quite human and it sets off like your.
Like uncanny.
Uncanny Valley sort of thing. Whereas this one is like pretty damn solid and it's, again
like it's pretty much like the lion himself, the bogs, like the base standard. Like yeah,
whatever's better than that at worst.
He's going to like execute that Night Lord's guy. That's pretty cool.
Yeah.
Night Lord's hell.
I'm gonna pull up some pictures. I've not looked at the Prime Box for such a long time.
So all I can see is tiny little pictures. So I am gonna try.
I do like these models far more than their 40k variants. I think.
Don't mind the little EF.
Yeah, it's a little bit bad. I kept trying to click off that like it was me. I was like
why is it not working?
Was there a clip off?
Yeah, he's cool. I remember seeing the line recently, not like the, obviously the 40k
version, but that one. So I quite like him.
I mean, do you have a favorite Primark that's kind of like, we all do, but everyone's going
to have a bias here though. I mean Horus is cool. I've always liked Horus, but then I
don't know if that's just because I like him in the books. That sounds really bad, doesn't
it?
No, he's really good in the books though.
That's respectable. I like Horus too.
I think I like two models as well, because there's the one down here.
Yeah, there's Horus Ascended.
Yeah, there's the Horus Ascended one. I saw that when it came out last year. I was like
thwaw.
Yes, that's the one I like the most. I think Horus Ascended.
I think Lion's Beats here personally for me.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think it's fine there.
I think the thing with the Lion is just like, if you didn't know he was a Primark, you'd
be like, oh, it's a Knight. Maybe it's just because it's the helmeted version. I'm like,
oh, you know what I mean? Like some of the others have a bit more like, oh, look at that.
Look at this thing.
Oh, I love that one.
Let's get Fulgur out of here.
Okay, I've got a painting for this one.
He's so cool. I love him. He has a cool base. He has a cool base with Ferris. Fulgrim's
a great book. There you go, bingo cards. I like his pose. I like his face. He's like
one of the OG ones, I think.
He's got a kiss on the cheek.
Yeah.
I remember looking at this, if you look at this model's...
Well, these are the Forgeworld ones, but yeah.
There is a Forgeworld demon.
Yeah, Demon Fulgur is a Forgeworld.
Yeah, yeah, but yeah.
I think the model's face on this, if I remember correctly, he looks like, obviously, Fulgur
is very pretty and his face definitely looks a little bit like my screaming Vekko.
Yeah, but he's fighting Ferris. He's in mental anguish.
You can huff all the Copim you want. Also, the hair.
That's not his face. That's the Lair's face.
Demon sword, yeah.
The hair's a little off for me on this one as well. I like that it's in motion because
a lot of them are just standing still aggressively. That's just a big thing with Warhammer. Look
at him stand there all menacing.
I think he has a pretty classic look to him. He kind of reminds me of the Lord of the Rings
models to actually know that I'm looking at him.
It's scaled quite nicely.
Yeah, I'm looking at pictures now on Google, so I'm getting a better idea of what I'm looking
at. I do remember them. I've not seen him for so long. I'm like, oh, that's what they
look like. I like the flow there. He's got a nice flow. He's feeling very agile, athletic.
I quite like that one. I'm a big fan of that Fulgrum actually.
What about the face though? Does the face...
Oh, the face looks like he's had a stroke, but...
He's possessed. He's possessed by a demon.
Oh, man.
So are the models.
Look out for the signs of possession. It's F-A-S-T.
That's fast now.
Yes. Get your chaplain right now.
Beautiful boy, Fulgrum.
What do you guys think then?
I think it's top of B, honestly, because I know there are better ones coming. Top of
B, please.
Oh, Ilyseet. Oh my gosh. This is Fulgrum all over again.
Let's put him in A for you guys' sake. And we can always demand him later.
Oh, it's Turtle Man. It's Peter Turbot.
Peter Turbot.
I love you, Perturabot. Don't let anybody make fun of you.
This is actually quite a good model and base, if I remember correctly.
Didn't this one win Golden Demon this year? Or a virginal?
Someone made a conversion into demon at the Primark.
Yeah.
And Grun, and they did a great job.
I feel like usually when I see this model in real life though, because it's not professionally painted, it kind of just looks like junk.
Because it doesn't quite grab you like the other ones.
It's hard to tell. It's hard to see anything on it if it's not painted really well. It's just kind of all like metal slab and junk, like I said.
But I think the model itself is cool. It's got the hand.
Yeah, it's got a good pose. But yeah, there's a lot going off from a metallic point of view. So if you're picking it out right, I can see what you're saying with that.
Do you know why they always put them like, they're never quite in the middle. Like they're always like, like he's about to tip over.
I suppose it's because it's like the segmentable bases, right? So like if you take him off, he's centered, but then you off the vink.
Whoa.
Kind of base.
Yeah, they're like putting them like right in the middle. The 40k ones do that, like with Gilliman and the lion, but the 40 ones are very much like, yo, put him right on the edge of that thing.
I don't know. How does everyone feel on that one?
I think he's more of a B for me than an A.
Me too.
I feel nothing.
You don't like Perturabo, do you, Colin?
Not really.
No.
Break.
He's good in his books though. He's very...
Oh, it's the best primer.
Hell, are you going to talk to me about Horace Heresy books, hell?
Okay.
Perfect.
I haven't read them.
Now this was the last one to come out.
And he's so beautiful. I love his awning look. He's got the lovely cape. He's got the toloir. He's my best. He's my dad.
He kind of has the issue though of the New Age posing stuff that they got going on. He's just standing there, sort of. There's not very much uniqueness about that.
Don't you realize he does look like a...
Don't you talk about my dad like that. I'll love you.
I'm sorry, Andy. He's a very... The model is beautiful. I just think his pose is very uninspiring for a guy who's so wacky and...
Isn't it the yin yang though? It's meant to create an S in the middle of it.
Yeah, yes.
Honestly, I quite like... Sorry to go against you there. I quite like simple stoic poses. Sometimes when it's like a weird... I mean, with Full Room, it's quite a nice agile pose, but sometimes it becomes a gimmick when it's on everything. I've always been a fan of static poses. Not super static, but drawing a sword out or holding a hammer.
But it's also the case of like, if you have like, for example, I know there's that piece of artwork with jacket ties like that, but then if you do that pose, you're hiding all of his body and so you can't see the details. So they have to have open poses.
That's kind of what I would have expected him to be posed as. I think the model is A tier personally, just for the armor, like the samurai armor and stuff alone. It's very cool.
Well, I have control of the mouse, so he stays.
I'm happily down next to you.
It is a very well done one.
Now the next one is Lehman Russ. This actually might be the posing problem thing where a lot of things are covered up.
It would look cool if he's in his 1v1 against Magnus thing, but by itself it does look kind of goofy.
I love seeing him just be like, howling. Yeah, that's a fun pose for him.
If his head was facing the other way actually, it would be a little bit better.
This is kind of confusing on what he's... it kind of looks like he's fallen over almost.
Well, you know what it is? It's like if that was a photograph, it's like he's in the battle, it's like, Lehman!
It's like that just kind of glanced over like, what's up?
The shoulder pad is really nice.
Yeah.
Isn't he meant to be Ginger? I can never know in the lore. They keep changing his hair color. He's meant to be a redhead, I think.
I just hate space wolves, so he can be a good man.
So sad. So sad.
To be honest, these days everyone hates space wolves.
I like the space wolves.
I'm neutral on space wolves and I feel like I'm their biggest fan more often than not.
I don't know. I like Lehman.
You guys obviously know better than me because you're lore masters, I have not read as many books, but certainly from the early books, they're the executioners, right?
They go out and murder people that have done wrong doing it.
And then suddenly later on in Fort La Cade, they were like, do-gooders, and we love the people.
You're a good-bob, you murderers. You butcher people. Just do what you're supposed to do.
We'll help you if you have ale. If not, go away.
They're very much the Marmite of the lore side of it. If you're a space wolf fan, you'd love them.
Being a space wolf fan, 2024 is true loyalty, that's all I'm saying.
You're a true good boy.
But we do have a donation from SharkboneMe again, thank you. Questions for the stream. Would you rather do unholy things to Teclis or have unholy things done to you by Morath?
You can't make me pick.
Second, second.
Splash some water on yourselves boys.
Assuming you survive, then yeah, the second one.
But even if it's not, what a heck of a way to go.
Exactly, I was going to say the same thing.
Yeah, true.
I did just look at, I'm looking at Leman's model on the website, and when you look at him from a side view, he does look really cool.
It's just from the front, he looks super dumb.
I think that's the thing sometimes the models when they are positioned, because they have like a golden angle, but a lot of these forward-rolled ones, there is no real golden angle because there's just so much going on.
I think Jagatara Khan has a golden angle, which is the one we saw.
That's why it is.
Yes, that's why it is.
I'm happy to leave it there to be honest with Leman.
Like I don't feel any stronger.
Rugal Dorn.
Nice stoke pose.
Gold armor, some dead nightlords.
I'm all about the S on that guy, but that's just me.
His sword's pretty dang cool.
I can't remember his name.
Oh, the chainsword.
It's not something's teeth, is it?
Yeah, it's something's teeth.
Storm's teeth.
Storm's teeth, that's the one.
Storm's teeth.
His cape's really nice.
He's nice.
I never see someone paint him badly, to be fair.
I usually see people paint him quite well.
He's quite like an interesting, he's a strange one because it's basically just like, oh, am I going to paint him?
Gold.
So yeah, can't go wrong.
Just gold.
His pose is very Dorn.
He's just standing there.
He's got a nice nunky base.
And it's nice that he kind of goes up to the center.
Like what we were saying about, he's not quite off to one side, he's more or less in the middle.
It's the cloak flow for me as well.
That cloak, the way he's painted it, just looks really nice.
Yeah.
I'd put him in A tier personally.
Yeah.
I think the base should have been a little bit smaller because it does make him look smaller.
It doesn't look smaller compared to the rest of them.
I quite like, sorry.
I just kind of like how it is like, you got the chunky wall man.
Chunky wall man on the chunky plinth.
Yeah.
I like that.
He might as well be part of the base himself.
Just like, yeah, that's not even Dorn, this is a statue.
Yeah.
I'm not for it.
It's a big base though.
But it's a nice model.
I really like this model.
Top of the day, I would even straight away.
I'd put him in S just for the freaking Batman pose.
His face does look very, very ghoulish.
His face looks goofy now that I'm looking at it, but the rest of him is awesome.
I don't know what it is, but that pose reminds me of something in particular, that specific thing.
Like cat boys?
I think it might be the episodes where they're usually on a ledge.
Oh yeah.
Oh, the dead guys on his basis are like eviscerated and they're bloody and mutilated.
I think he deserves that.
Not highly killed, yeah.
It's also really nice, just from a paint job point of view, I just love the paint job on him as well.
It's so good.
I should be judging the paint job on this and more the model, but those poor dead guys, they've had a bad day.
Is it always painted by the same crew?
Sometimes I think, because it's changed a bit now, because they have their own official Heavy Metal team,
whereas before they had just painters and some of them had different styles, so it was not very workshop-y.
I don't know if that's still the case, but there's definitely been a change with a lot of the packaging for Forge,
or it looks more akin to the games workshop style, if you like.
Certainly some of the newer ones, I think, are in there.
It's been a while, to be honest.
Can't remember who's there now. Change around.
Sanguineous.
Sanguineous gets top of S tier for me.
Yeah?
Yeah, I honestly...
It's the painting of the Archangel, it's so cool.
But you can't go wrong with it.
That is a tall wall, though, I bet.
I'd be so worried about breaking that model.
It's tall and you keep your mouth shut.
Say it, Kate.
You're a good Catholic boy and you'll love your Saint Michael model.
Unfortunately...
I'm sorry, every time I see it, I imagine the rock going up his ass.
I don't know why, it just looks like he's about to get punched.
That's why he's screaming.
I like it, it's just the mental image.
I don't know why, I think it's just goofy.
It is one of the models where they're standing on something to make them look like they're flying that doesn't always hit right, I guess.
And the model is just attached to his whole leg, so getting it off, you have to chisel it away.
The hair's a little bit odd as well.
I was going to say the hair.
But then, I guess sculpting hair is hard.
I would also say it might just be full of blood and it's a bit clotted.
It's a bit heavier than I remember it being.
Fuller than what I was saying, probably.
I think hair and resin maybe is quite tough to get.
Yeah.
And crisp.
I think it's the clean-up as well.
Yeah, the wings do look very nice.
I've done enough resin kits myself, I know the clean-up on hair can be a nightmare, especially with mould lines in it.
And then painting it, so I'm not going to judge the painter on that or the sculptor.
Oh, we've got a donation from Stealthy47 for 2 euros.
No, dollars, eh?
Terenod's model tier list when?
Someday.
We'll get around to it.
Oh, Crimson Glory.
Hello, Crimson Glory.
He says, hello you beautiful gentlemen.
You guys are keeping me on my toes with your recording schedule.
School's almost done, bro, and then we can go back to normal.
Thank you very much for the $10.
Thank you.
Ferris Manus.
As much as I love iron hands, this one I know.
I love you, Ferris.
Kill him.
Come on.
I know this one is not quite as good as the rest.
You know, this is the runt of the litter, even as a model.
This is another OG one though, right?
No, come on, this is better.
I think it's one of the first ones they did.
It's better than Pearl of Rabo.
I can't find the model.
I like the momentum.
There's something about this model, I think it's because of the chain switching and his stance.
You can tell there's some weight behind the swing.
Yeah, I quite like that.
It is a good implied movement.
Yeah, well, neither is the art.
They couldn't just give him a wrench.
What we're ignoring though is the hideous face.
He's supposed to be ugly.
That's his face.
He's supposed to be ugly.
I don't know what model I'm looking at here, but I quite like the paint job on his face on the one I'm looking at.
I don't know if that's like a go on demon or...
The Ferris Manus face though does look a lot like... it just looked off compared to the rest of them.
MF's call him the Gorgon bro.
There's a new artwork that the Horace Harrison Card game made for all the Primuxes, the drop side mascot.
And my favourite comment was like, when you look at Ferris Manus, he just looks like a guy called Shane.
Like, yeah, pretty much.
He's got that sports jockey haircut and everything.
Shane of the Iron Hands.
I like this model. I like how his backpack's covered in so many gizmos and gadgets.
He's got some really heavy looking armour.
He's got that chain, what do you call it?
Loin cloth?
Or whatever with the chains.
There's some importance going into the momentum in this stuff as well.
I like it.
I don't think it's cool as...
I don't think it's quite A tier though.
Is it both or B?
I feel like we're not all looking at the same thing.
Honestly, it's the worst one out of all of them, isn't it?
I think it's cool.
You just just like Perturabo, Colin.
I do think it's worse than Leeman's art.
I like the lion and Leeman more than I do Ferris, but I like his model more than both of them.
Man, I must be off kilter.
Alright, Angra.
Very short.
Busy.
We got Mr Storyteller in our chat. He's going to be sad.
Yeah, he's going to be upset.
I know this is based off his art.
I've seen an artist in the exact same pose.
And you're like, oh, that's cool.
And they're like how the guy on the left of the plinth is arching backwards.
He's not even fallen over yet.
And I'm like, yeah, he's on the way, but he's just been hit.
And I feel like you can do a really cool thing with like...
Yeah, I feel like you could do a cool thing with like...
That thing is where you use glue to make it look like a blood streak.
You could have it in momentum, that would look cool.
It's pretty dynamic, that one as well.
If you just like even squint your eyes a bit looking at the list of them,
that one stands out quite a lot just because the colours are really striking.
Yeah, yeah. It's definitely got momentum to it.
Honestly, I'm not a fan of the pose, but then that's just because that's just me.
It's just too much David doesn't give a sense of his size.
But it does look dynamic though.
There's a sense of speed, but yeah, he's alright.
Maybe B too.
He's a B.
Yeah.
Ooh, Gilliman.
Is this the first one?
He is so small, dude.
He's laughing.
It's crazy how small this model is in real life.
I love Gilliman and this one is so... I can't... I don't like it.
I do like the marble and the stuff that he's standing on.
He's like, I like his face.
I like the things that aren't Gilliman.
He's the size of a regular space marine nowadays.
Because he's the only one as well. He's just like, I'm fine, fine, fine, fine.
I'm addressing the Senate.
That's fair. It is very Gilliman.
Yeah.
I think what's spoiled with that is having the 40k version of Gilliman.
Because you get the sense of like he's chunky, he's big, everything's just a bit more refined,
like the big sort of iron halo on the back.
So this guy just looks like he's like, I don't know, made?
His little brother.
He's cosplaying.
He's an accurate Colin Hite guy.
If the 40k one is Robote Gilliman, he's Robote Gilliboy.
The 40k one is the guy that your girl should worry about.
Yeah.
The guy she tells you not to worry about.
Yeah.
It can't be an A tier.
He's got plows in space. That's pretty cool.
Put him right here.
Yeah.
Yeah, we're happy with that.
Yeah.
Mortarion.
I hate...
Cutting down the weeds.
It's a nice model, but I'm one of the people who I actually quite dislike the Mortarion just like in general build of him.
Like it's not like it looks, it's just a bit too unimpressive compared to the rest of them.
I think it's good.
I look at the 40k Mortarion, like damn, you had a moth wings.
You had a blow off.
Yeah.
Or blow down if you will, but in a good way.
You know what it is for me?
I think, I don't know if it's just because I'm looking at different angles of him right now.
And it just looks like his legs look too long and his arms look too long in comparison to his body and his head.
And I think he's throwing me off a bit.
And I don't know if it's just because, you know, sometimes when you have it physically in your hand, it looks much better as opposed to 2D images.
But I'm not a fan of it.
It's meant to be quite ghoulish.
He's a leaner looking kind of cat.
Because he's quite bulky.
I wish he was like lanky.
Because that's kind of what you think, you know.
They say it's just like, oh, the big beetle.
The weapon is mine.
Don't you knock big beetles, L'Oreal's model is beautiful.
Beautiful beetle.
Maybe above Gillerman.
Yeah, maybe above the Gillerman.
Yes, put Gillerman in C2.
Alright, I'll put him in C.
Actually, we just put these guys there.
So it's like, this is the bit neater.
Magnus is great.
The model is really good.
The magic I'm not as happy with.
I don't know why.
It looks like someone's throwing spaghetti.
It reminds me of Ghostbusters slime.
It does, yeah.
And then Magnus said, don't cross the streams.
Norman said, what?
And then the rubric happens.
I suppose the great thing is, you can just cut it off, right?
You can cut all that magic off.
That's what I would do.
It's a nice model.
I think the hair's done well on this one as well.
Oh, I didn't realize you could set him with, is it Leman Russ?
That's really clever.
I didn't know that.
Interesting.
I think you can do that with the lines and curves too.
Yeah, yeah.
There's been pairs a lot of them.
That's really smart.
I like that.
I didn't know that was the thing until I just saw a picture of him.
I was like, oh.
It was a Jagatai and Mortarion then?
That would be the demon.
I don't know if they actually are.
I like it.
That one's a nice.
I think that one serves to be a little bit higher though, like above Fulgrum.
Sorry, Eli.
Not as a character, but as a model.
I quite like him up in A.
Yeah, he feels like an A.
Or Horus.
I really like this guy.
Big fan.
He's very iconic.
I am Horus's top guy, as they say.
Top guy.
Or Kaon's cooler.
Shush you.
His model's super cool.
I like the steps a little.
Do his legs look a little bit small or is that just me?
He looks a bit too bulky in the mid-riff.
I think it's kind of like Dorne where the base is so big that it makes him look a bit small.
But I do.
I think he looks fine.
Talon is cool, the wolf cloak.
I was not feeling it.
I'd say like top of A though.
I just don't feel S tier about it.
You see, the ascended one would be S tier for me.
Yeah, definitely.
Yeah, not that one.
There's a better version of it though.
I think we're happy with that then.
Oh, okay.
This one.
His face.
This character's face is actually wrong.
We can probably put him with...
We can probably put him with Gilman, I feel like.
I like him in B.
His base is cool, has a flaming skull, that's awesome.
His base is cool, his armor is solid.
I think sometimes some of them...
You know...
I imagine him handsomer, personally.
I don't know if you'd agree with me on this, Cullen or not.
If I just cut off his mace and gave him a hammer and got rid of his backpack, he'd look like an Empire warrior priest.
I don't know why.
I'm just looking at it again, he just looks like a warrior priest.
And I suppose he is like a priest to a certain degree.
That's kind of making me like him more.
I mean, he is the most underwhelming fighter of the Primeval.
So it kind of makes sense.
It's like, do your battle pose, Logo.
And he's just like...
He stands still.
He doesn't need no fancy poses.
He's ready to go.
Fight the name of whichever god Emperor takes him.
He has runes on stuff on his base carved out under him if you move him all around.
That's pretty...
That's a Logo we see too.
His armor has all the...
No, actually his armor alone is like eights here for me.
But that face ruins it.
He's actually meant to be quite handsome, like they say.
We've got to be aware of Pichi's time.
Oh yeah, so it's all in.
This one is really nice though, because it pops so...
Big hammer.
Oh, that guy.
Yeah, he's mega.
I would even put a bottom of S tier.
Yeah.
Because so...
It just pops so hard.
He's neat.
I do like him.
Yeah, big fan of that guy.
Still wears his box.
Corax.
This one is nice.
I like this one a lot.
Yeah, it's pretty...
As a centerpiece, that's really impressive if you had that in front of you.
Yeah, I guess.
This poor guy is like, oh, it's a big crow man.
I think I've found a more solid way to put it.
Part of why I kind of don't like Syngwineous.
I think I just don't like that downward facing pose on a mini.
It's not as bad on Corus for me, because he's facing more at an angle.
But I like it when they're looking forward, ready to go.
Even flying units like the Seraphim or whatever the sisters won.
I like when they're looking forward more than they are just down.
Because when you're playing them on the tabletop, it's like, please look at the enemy.
Please stop looking at the ground.
Weirdly, it's like a...
I can't even...
It's got a terminology, but I know from a photography point of view,
when you look downwards on a model, it looks like a model,
and then kind of removes you from that kind of feeling setting.
Whereas when you're looking up at a model, it feels more lifelike,
or at the same kind of eye level, it feels more lifelike.
It becomes more toy-like when you're looking down on it,
because you're looking down and it just looks like a model.
So I wonder if that's something to do with why you don't like them looking down.
I don't know.
Maybe. I don't know.
It's just something that's probably weird, probably nothing that just bothers me
for some personal taste reason. I can't quite word.
I agree with you. I'm just wondering if it's that for me,
or if there is something more to it. But yeah, I agree.
I like them looking forwards or upwards, not downwards. It just feels wrong.
I think that one's still objectively very nice, and I'm happy with it.
Yeah, I do like it.
All right, last one, Lance, is Alpharius. Or is it?
I think he's one of my favourite primal models.
He's a really nice pose.
He deserves the S tier. Honestly, top of S tier for me.
I love Alpha Legion colour schemes, I can't lie.
I hate everything about them, but their colour schemes and their armour is so cool.
He deserves the top. Put him up there.
He deserves the top.
Look, does he go up on them?
Honestly, it's probably the most... I don't know if this is the right way to say it,
but it's the most satisfying out of all the models.
The Pale Sphere is pretty badass as well.
Also, if there was Ascended Horrors as well, that would probably be top of S tier,
because that one's really good.
Yeah, I'm pretty happy with that as well.
Yeah, very good, fellas.
There we go.
Not enough minutes of italics.
Lads, lads, lads, lads.
And that was Art Earless. That was fun, wasn't it?
Yes.
Thanks.
Sorry if I offended anyone with their painting teeth.
You did not.
I'm sorry.
I was offended by Andy.
I only had one minute to do Zombie Despise to be involved.
Got you.
You did a great job.
Absolutely brilliant workplace.
Well, thank you so much, everyone, for listening.
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Last minute.
Yes, I like it.
I like the last minute.
We tortured you with our self-esteem reassurance therapy session.
Yeah.
We really needed it though.
That was good.
Some good stuff.
Loved it.
Thank you so much, everyone, for listening and watching.
And we'll catch you guys on the next one. Peace.
I just have one deeply important question before we end.
None of these things.
What's your favorite Call of Duty zombies maps, sir?
Mine?
Yeah.
Call of Duty zombie maps.
I've not played Call of Duty since...
Second guess in a row.
Who didn't have an answer?
Sorry. Sorry.
I haven't played it for a while.
Yeah. Sorry. I can't answer that.
The third one.
I really like the third one. It's great.
DJ B said, have you ever watched Epic Rap Elves history?
I have.
Do you have a favorite song?
No.
This is exactly what you deserve, Chet.
This is exactly what you deserve.
We've been teasing them with a tier list on Epic Rap Elves for like six months.
And it's like, no. One day.
Loads of people used to play it in the office and could I recall what they are? No.
I remember watching them all listening to them.
So sorry. Sorry. God.
Oh, well.
Thanks anyway, everyone.
Thank you.
Have a good one, guys.
See you later.
Love you. Long time.
Sliders.
God.
Yeah.