Hello, I believe we're live. Hello everyone, it's us, the Lorecrimes people. And today,
Hal can't be with us today, he's busy doing some kind of outside of the internet stuff
that's kind of, he's got somebody to do outside of YouTube. Disgusting. So we thought we'd
take this opportunity because I don't know how much Halo Hal has played, but I know we've
all played some Halo, we all like a bit of Halo. And yes, we have seen your comments
saying let Colin do Halo lore in every video we've published since Colin mentioned it in
one of his videos, specifically saying go to the Lorecrimes channel and put it in the
comments. Thanks. Thanks, Colin. I do not think they would all know in such numbers.
I did not expect that response. It would be one or two. That's my bad. But also thank
you everyone. So today we've got a few Halo themed tier lists and to start things off,
we'll go for a nice, not so much short and sweet, but I think this will be a good one
for discussion. We've got the Halo games and this includes some obscure and weird ones.
Spartan Strike. Can I make a suggestion to change like two of the tiers? Yeah. The second
one from the garbage. Can we switch that to haven't played? Yeah, I like that because
there's a few I haven't played. Yeah. And then can we switch this game shouldn't exist
to just just make it Halo five, just fucking make it Halo. Change the name of the Halo
five. Yeah. Absolute garbage. In fact, we'll just put Halo five. Let's start this off with
a bit of it real. Why is Halo five so bad? Because the campaign is an abortion of gaming
and I hate it. It's garbage. It's awful. It destroys. It just sucks. I hate the word.
The word eternal boss fight was cool the first time and then they did five million more times.
Then let's stretch this out. Why not? I'm sure this is going to get annoying.
No, there's more. They reworked some of the weapons from four to be worse.
The multiplayer could have been a saving grace except war zone. The big fun, not quite battle
royale, but you know, the big like open map with you know, that even had NPC enemies. Oh, you had
to pay money for a scorpion loot boxes, locked everything that wasn't a basic weapon. That's
awesome. That's cool. I can hate it. The multiplayer in mechanics was good, but everything on top of
those mechanics was not good with shit. I remember being like, because I got the
Halo games on launch, so I got the first game just a bit after my birthday, whatever year it came out,
and I remember going through it as gaming was evolving and graphics were getting better and
mechanics and stuff. Then I got to Halo 4 and I was like, okay, I mean, yeah, well,
let's see where they're going. Then five came out and then a part of my soul died.
And I've never recovered since. Eli, have you ever played Halo 5? Nope. Good.
Don't do it. It's bad. Smash or pass covenants win.
Should we go through the rest? I'm not even going to finish that sentence. I got that one short.
Let's go through chronologically. Halo Combat Evolved. I would say, personally, I think Halo
Combat Evolved is amazing. I love it. I played 75% of it. I didn't end up getting to finish it,
not going to lie, but before I did that, I read the books and it's one for one and I like the book.
The Combat Evolved novel adaptation was amazing. You got to see what everyone else was doing that
wasn't the Master Chief. Yeah, it was very cool. Oh, here's Hal in the chat. I'm in Switzerland.
Switzerland. Look at this guy.
Oh, dear. You could be on lore crimes. I know. It's disgusting. Very interesting.
Curious. I mean, all I say is like Halo Combat Evolved, it was the template for Halo Sepholo.
It completely reinvented the FPS genre as we know it. It had amazing campaign levels. Brilliant,
local. Back in the day, where you used to link your Xboxes together with like a lead and you'd
put them on the telly and you'd have split screen versus. Ah, good times. Good times.
It also turned every FPS game in the 2000s with even a slightly higher profile than
nothing was hyped as the Halo killer for 10 years straight. None of them ever were the Halo
killer. The Halo killer would be Halo. But yeah, Halo 5 was the Halo killer, I believe.
But every game is like, this is the Halo killer. And then it would be worse than Halo without
fault, including Fire Warrior that was. Oh, yeah. Only because it was really.
It was what do you like? I'm just surprised that that was the
list of gameplay where they were like, like the market was like, it's fucking better than Halo.
It wasn't. Oh, yes. That is an epic book.
Gaming made a banging book or banger video about it. It's quiet.
Oh, I've just Googled Halo killers. There's like Haze for the PS3.
I remember Haze. I don't.
It's like I'm too young for this.
Corn did the theme song and it was like a guy with a yellow helmet and he did like drugs called
Nectar, I think it was. And then you're like, I'm part of the Nectar Warriors. And then you kill
everyone and then half of the game, you're like, I think we're the bad guys. And you turn this
Killzone a really mid FPS. I know there's a lot of people who like I'm PlayStation guy. I love
Killzone. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it.
Killzone is pretty, pretty mid. I've never liked Killzone. I've tried all the Killzones and they're
all a bit net. What are the bad guys? Their armor goes hard, but it's about all I know about Killzone.
It's like, what if like the the Nazis in space, basically?
I don't know, something like that. All I know is all I know about the overarching plot is that
apparently everyone in Killzone just kind of sucks. Yeah, like they the the enemy faction grew up on
like a radiated planet, so they hate everyone. And that's kind of their thing. You're like, I get
you're a bit annoyed about that. But now you've literally just become evil fascist, super soldier
men. I have no sympathy for your radiation plight. This is like the Necrons all over again. I'm not
I'm not buying it. I don't feel that bad. Yeah, yeah. Oh, what a shame. Anyway, I think the only
thing keeping CE out of godly is the library. I love the library. It's great. What is wrong
with you? It's like it's like a proper good level. Because it's great. Oh, yeah. It's like,
wonderful. What if it's like, hey, we're going to throw everything at you at once and you get all
the weapons practically in the game. And it's all about some of the some of the sections. It's about
trying to like rush past other ones. It's you have to exterminate everything. And yeah, I really like
the library. Maybe just because I played Halo one so many times, I'm used to it. I mean, I mean, I
get I I'm just saying I don't like turning a corner and there's three combat forms with rocket
launchers. I'm not a fan. I'm not a fan. That's the Halo experience. Rocket flood, my beloved
kitty. They get it. They get it. It's a pin right there. That's a pin from me. Okay, well, before
this becomes a rant about the library, Halo two, I'm going to I'm going to say some controversial
and I think it should be great. Great. I don't know. Halo two multiplayer. I don't like I do not
like however the networking works. I feel like my bullets just do not work, which I know is now a
skill issue. I didn't even have time to say it. I do. I do not like like the net coding or whatever
they did for Halo two's multiplayer is the SMG feels like I see the little fucking shield blinking
when I'm shooting them. And then it just doesn't look like the shields going down and a whole clip
goes in. I'm like, man, I'm sure I'm glad I loaded this multiplayer match up. It just it just feels
a bit too dated. The multiplayer campaigns campaign also ended on one of the most atrocious cliff
hangers in gaming. Yeah. Yeah. I point as someone who just played the campaign like a few months ago,
and now I have access to Halo three whenever I desire. It felt pretty it felt pretty godly.
But I mean, we're very frustrated back in the day. In the day that I'll obviously now you know,
there's several more Halo games out since then. It doesn't matter as much me at her. Well, all
right. But like it. It's good. I think it's great. I think it's great. But between the cliffhanger
ending, I just don't like the multiplayer compared to the other ones, even see the
Boulevard of Jackal Snipers on legendary is the best way to make you want to say like just
very bad words about the covenant. Yeah, like the aim box sniper jackals is one hit kill.
Somebody somebody says based how as usual. Okay, you can't he fixed it.
Although I would say like, here's a question. What are your opinions on dual wielding?
Oh, that's great. It was neat. It was cool. I'm saying like, I will fully admit the reason I
don't think it's amazing or godly is entirely the multiplayer and the ending. Right. And a little
bit of the jackal snipers, but that kind of loops back around to being funny. That's somewhat
mitigated by Sergeant Johnson being a badass. That's where when you take the sniper rifle off
him on like the new Mombasa level, he was like, I thought we were friends. And you're like, oh,
Halo 2 has the best lines. The best voice lines in all. I do think solely for humanity.
Like being alien and that and and and the the remaster of it was fucking incredible.
Is that another one though? Is that separate down below? Like, do the remasters have their own box?
Not that I can see. No. Well, Nick, all right. I think I've talked myself into making it amazing.
Yeah, I agree. There were some of the levels in the campaign that I didn't really enjoy.
Yeah, the there's a lot of like tower defense levels when you're playing as the arbiter.
And that was not very fun. But everything else was awesome. I did not find the brutes very fun to
fight either. I mean, they're quite easy compared to the elites as well, because they have the tiny
little helmets, we just go, pop, pop, always dead, pop, pop, always. And like, Halo is a headshot
shooter. It's like if you can get the hang of shooting them in the head, it's like the the
the elites are pretty much the only threat that's annoying because of the shields. But the other
thing about Halo 2 is it has the boss fights and they're pretty mid. They were pretty goofy.
Punching punching the Tartarus, the profit or whatever you can. Oh, yeah, that was pretty fun.
And then you punch to death the prophet of the prophet of crime.
And then there's the the elite who goes like into multiple forms and stuff.
Oh, man. A super soldier in the prime of his life and career beats the shit out of the old man.
In a floating chair.
Some of the missions in that game are like the best in any game I've ever played, though.
I do like the bit as well when you also like drop in with the ODS teams like, can we make
can we possibly make any more noise? And you pull out the rocket launcher like,
like, this is brilliant. This is the best thing ever. And especially it's like what 16 year old
me like, this is the peak of my life. You know, that's fair. I've talked myself do amazing.
On a personal list, I would probably still put it great. But for the lower crimes, I can.
I'm not against it. Well, it should stay behind. See, though. What about three Halo free? I played
half of it when I was a little kid and I haven't. I have unfortunately, I must confess, not played
it again. It's my I'm going to play it after ODST whenever I end up playing that.
Colin, you said godly. Could you explain why godly? Why?
It's got I just feel like it's got the best of just about almost everything in the series.
It is dual wielding. Still from Halo two.
The they're not with the needler because that's too overpowered.
Not for the need. Oh, yeah, that's a bit much. They did make the needler a bit stronger, though,
to compensate for more dual wielding. So that's good. It's got the equipment,
you know, bubble shield, my beloved, you know, the trip mine. What I trip mind wasn't always
super useful, but it was funny and multiplayer whenever you pulled it off and some idiot walked
on top of it. What I just became the gameplay just flowed so well for me. I loved it. I will
admit there is a lot of nostalgia here. It was my first Halo game, but the flood are
properly terrifying, especially because now you can they can infect people.
They're still alive so you can see Marines just freaking out as they join the flood.
That was great. You could team up with the elites, not just play as the arbiter. You team up with
the elites. That's pretty cool. If you shoot one of them, they ask, was this because of reach,
which is really funny and also. And a fucking dark.
I'll submit, I really don't like the campaign compared to the others.
Which is a hot take. Yeah. I mean, I got here's the thing, right. Playing Halo 3, I remember
the like first few levels, they're all in like broken earth. So the environments are really
boring. Like the bit where you're on the beach and the mongoose is shooting the scarab. It's
just like, I was just like a beach. And then there's the bit where you drive around the
beach and then there's the bit where you drive around the warthog and it's just like, oh, it's
just like a highway and there's a lot of highway was awesome. That level is awesome. You will find
the race or find the brutes and the choppers and everything. The combat is fine. It's just like,
I just found like the environments are a bit dull in comparison to some of the stuff in the earlier
games. Like again, like the first game where you have that big outstretching halo ring environments,
then you get the snowy area and then you get like the live library is a bit dull, but like you get
like the forerunner technology stuff, whereas like three is just a bit like, oh, it's, I really like
the return to the halo CE level where it's in the snowy like final bit where you're going up to the
control room with Johnson and everything. That's brilliant. But like other than that,
even that bit when you're in the jungle at the beginning and it's just like, oh, it's just like
a jungle. I feel like we're looking at the same thing and getting complete different reactions
out of it. And then you're in an underground base and you're like, oh, it's an underground base.
Yeah, that's cool. You're never, you're never in UNSC facilities otherwise. Yeah. But two,
you're in the, the, the Mac cannon thing with the big elevators and you've got the nice vistas
outside with the planets and you see them getting blown up and you're like, oh, this is cool.
And then three, I don't know, there's something about free where I play the campaign. I'm like,
I like the mechanics and everything, but the environments are so bloody dull. I don't know
what it is. So many cool moments. You remember, like you get to return to high charity and see it
all flood infested. I like that bit in the crow's nest level where it's like, you see the Marine,
he's got blindfolds on. He can't even see, see anything, but here's the master chiefs around.
He's like, holy shit. We won. We're good fellows. This is it. We don't need to worry. Chiefs here.
It's the only halo game. I think we're in multiplayer. You get like different skins.
Yeah. It's like, and they're free. Oh, by the way, donation. Yeah. Do you want to say who it is?
Thank you. Lila. Uh, Rio. Don't know if I said your name wrong for the $28. Is that Australia?
Maybe. I'm not sure. Uh, morning lads. Some of my best gaming moments happened in halo. The
multiplayer was so good for it, for its time. I got a 51 kill streak and capture the flag and halo
three. I peaked then and it's been all downhill since then. Jeez. Thank you. Thank you for the
monies. My friend. I have not gone to 51 kills. That's quite the achievement. Oh, speaking of
halo free, you know, something that really peeved me, you know, there's that, um, medal you can get,
I think it's called perfection where you guess is it 25 kills and no deaths,
something like that. I don't know what it is in three. I think that's what it is in free,
but I remember I accomplished that feat in SWAT, but if you do it in SWAT, it doesn't count. So
you don't get the medal. And I remember finishing the match and I got some like 27 kills and no
deaths. 15 kills and without die at least 15 and don't die. Oh yeah. Something like that. And I was
like, Oh, I should get the medal. And I didn't. And I was like, Oh, that happened to me in reach
with snipers. And I was so fucking angry. Yeah. Especially cause I was like 13. This was my prime
nothing but halo gaming all day days. And it's like, Oh, I didn't get this medal was worth more
to me than most of my friends. And I didn't get it. And the thing I think it was cause it was like
a capture the flag map. And because maybe the score was based on flags, not on kills. That's
why it didn't work or something. And I was so pissed off cause I was like, I did so well. And
it's on that one with the, the targets. What's that one was like loads of crates and it's like
yellow and I know what's side by side. I can't remember what's called that map. And I was just
there with like my mates has been like doing the whole duck shooting like this. So your head's
bobbing up and down. So they can't quite hit you. Ah, glorious. Yeah. You finished the fight,
cool arbiter voice lines were it's so easy. That goes so hard. Good to see just everyone's at their
coolest. Rid us of that dude. He glasses half of Africa and doesn't feel bad. Very, very.
Seeing the arbiter kill the prophet with his energy sword is cool. And then the flood going,
Hey, I'm going to betray you, but you didn't see that cowings. I kind of did. We, we did.
And Keith David is a national treasure. So he was brilliant arbiter. Welcome to hell.
And a multiplayer was peak. The first Xbox live game. First time I played an online FPS.
Mine was actually COD two. No, my first multiplayer game was a Transformers Revenge of the Fallen.
Nice. Best, best Michael Bay Transformers movie. It was so bad. But it had a cool fight. Oh,
and can we also just mentioned that the trailers were amazing. Like the,
the one with the miniature or the model. Oh yeah. With that, like the, the, uh, what's it,
the belief trailer was it with the piano? I watched it. Like remember hope or something like
that. The belief, the belief series that like gets me in the fields and I didn't even live.
I wasn't even sentient to imagine how I felt like seeing it on television being like,
sometimes I wish I was just, I was born five years earlier so I could live through the gaming
Renaissance era. Oh, honestly, it was beautiful. I love it like that. I remember still the,
the time where I was visiting family and it was my aunt and my mom and my cousin seeing the
Xbox trailer, uh, the, the, like the Xbox system, uh, advertisement where it's the woman giving
birth and she shoots the kid and it flies out the window and as he's rocketing across the sky,
he ages rapidly screaming. Then he crashes into his tombstone and then it just says,
life is short by an export. Like that was brilliant. And they're like, that's disgusting.
The advertisements were awesome too. They had to take that off the television because it was just
like, nah, we can't, but I remember like, this is brilliant. This is a great time to be alive.
I've seen the wacky PlayStation ads as well. Oh yeah. With the weeping baby.
So yeah, all in all, Godly is befitting of Halo 3, even though I have some issues with it, but,
Halo ODST. Oh, I love this. I feel like I'm going to repeat myself and just say Godly. I mean,
yeah, I love Halo ODST. The saxophone, just like me for real. I listened to that while I play endless
space too. Soundtrack's amazing. I like the characters. Uh, I will admit, uh, a book that
will go unnamed soured me a little bit on, uh, Mickey. Oh yeah. Uh, but aside from that,
aside from that character assassination, uh, it was, it was great. Uh, it was cool not being a
Spartan. You got to go through the ruins of a new Mombasa and like, damn, this is what it's like
when you're not the master chief. It really sucks to live in the secret of records or be anyone
that's not a Spartan. Makes sense. Sucks to be a Spartan. Yeah. And it's fun. Fun fact, uh, I think
all the cast of the, uh, the main characters in there are all from the firefly series, which is
quite cool. Um, so yeah, so like, uh, is it Dutch? He's, um, so you got, obviously Nathan Fillion is
Dutch and you got Butch is, uh, the guy played Jane, uh, come over and I think Alan Tudyk is
possibly Mickey. Like, yeah, all those guys are from the fireflies is cause they were massive fans
of the show. Um, but yeah, the, the atmosphere, like firefight. Ooh, I enjoyed firefight. That was
a great, it was a firefight, the horde mode that was in the game. Oh yeah. That was the first game
with a firefight. Yeah. It was fun. Reach definitely made it a lot better, but it was, uh,
it was good groundwork. Also the trailers were peak. I love that one with the, um, is it the Welsh
vocals? And it's just, uh, I think it's again, Dutch Dutch or Butch, he's just like, it's that
thing where he just drops in it's live action. He's fighting the brutes and then they're just
like, he crash lands and then he shoots and gets smacked down. He shoots a pistol and it blows up
a thing and it kills them. And then they've got like the broken helmet on the gun and there's
this stood around the campfire. Yeah. That trailer is also chef's kiss. I think is it also this,
this, this like the payload free onwards, they had a tendency to do live action trailers. Um,
I'm gonna, then we just perfect. Another donation. You gotta call him. Uh, sure. Thank you for the
$10 geek freak. Dear humanity, we regret being alien bastards. We regret coming to earth. We
most definitely regret that the core just will for Reagan as fleet. Ooh, right. And they make
patriotic to be human. Real. So real. I want to kill covenant scum. If sergeant Johnson has one fan,
I'm one of them. I'm dead. That's right. Have you ever seen the lore accurate sergeant Johnson
videos and it's him just swearing. I'm not. I've seen him, uh, I've seen lore accurate master chief
where someone flies at mine. And that, um, out of a bad sheep. Those are always fun. Johnson's a
Spartan. Fun fact. He's like the proto Spartan one. Yeah. Really? What they call they're called. Um,
they were project Orion is what it was. Ryan. That's the way retroactively named it. The
Spartan one project. Cause it wasn't like they were like, we want to make Spartans. They took
actual adults. They took soldiers from like volunteer volunteers to kidnap children.
And then it was like, he's like, these are, these are good soldiers, but we need,
we need great soldiers. This is, this isn't enough. Also some of their DNA melted. Uh,
but it also is like a convenient way to be like, oh, he, that's why he can survive the first halo
game. And he's also a bad ass because he's actually like, like a mini Spartan secret
DNA tampering to make him even more bad ass. Oh, it's fine. He can smoke as many cigars as
it always like that. It was, I mean, obviously I obviously don't know about C but I, I think
it was long as I remembered halo. Like that's been, I think it was a case of like they,
they brought him back for two and they must've thought, Oh, we got to explain this. We got to
explain like, I like, sure. He's got loads of charisma and he's a bad ass, but we need another
reason why he can survive. I think that's why I like the first reasons. I like the first reason.
I just said he's an Epic human. Yeah. He's wins all the time. I like that. It was a, yeah. I like,
it was like that at least no later than like, I think honestly before reach.
Like that's not new. Yeah. ODSG godly. Yeah. Especially the, you rescue, you find the friendly
engineer. I will admit I failed to, I think ever get that achievement for, Oh my bad. It's okay.
I failed to ever get that achievement where you didn't kill any engineers because the red
was red, which means they were dead. I don't make the rules. I remember doing my first play for it.
I was blowing them up and then I was like, Oh no, it's a friendly one. So then I did that
just out of guilt. I had to do another play for like, sorry guys. Uh, but that's the thing.
I completely forgot they existed until you just brought them up again. I was like, Oh yeah.
Engineers. I remember that. They were just kind of slaves. Yeah. Wasn't great. It was like, Oh,
covenant. I've got loads of species, including these weird gooby squid people. Um, yeah. Uh,
what's next on this list? Halo Wars would actually be next. Halo Wars. Halo Wars is awesome.
I haven't played it for years, but I liked it when I did. And the cut scenes are really cool.
Oh yeah. I would say amazing or great, depending on how you guys feel about it. Uh, there are some
things that let it down. Some things are not very well balanced, uh, flamethrowers on the UNSC side
completely melt. That is assuming they get within the prerequisite six inches of the enemy unit to
melt them, uh, which if your opponent has any number of jackals, they will not, uh, and we'll
get shot before they can be useful. Uh, so yeah, uh, there's some balancing issues, but it's very
fun. It's a very good RTS game. Hmm. Uh, burning sunshine, that cut scene, three Spartans murdering
honor guard. That was the coolest thing ever. Sergeant forge was awesome. Andrews was awesome.
Captain cutter is awesome. Yep. Uh, you got to see an arbiter that wasn't the, the halo tooth.
That wasn't fell. Uh, very cool. Oh, we've got a $5 donation from Nick Swans. Okay. Halo two is
just way better than ODST. This is some biased tier lists. I didn't play it. ODST. I disagree.
I disagree as well. I disagree. Halo ODST is go, go throw on the piano, go throw on the piano
on the saxophone and you will change your tune. I will say halo two did have breaking Benjamin
though. And that was also also speak thousands energy. Okay. He was the ending theme. I remember
when I finished halo two the first time and then it had the Gregorian Gregorian chart. And then I
just heard that was like, what is that? And then I was like, wait, is that Steve Vai on guitar?
Is that Steve? Oh my God. Steve Vai. So awesome. Look, I'll explain myself again. I think multiplayer
is not good. I don't like it. I didn't play the multiplayer cause I don't, I'm bad at, I'm bad at
shooting games. They made it, you know, obviously master chief collection. You can play it again.
Problem is I think they have the same, like it's running on the same fucking Xbox one original
servers as it was from all the way back then. I hated it. I don't like Halo two multiplayer.
Yeah. And then again, certain weapon combinations like dual needlers just made it really
unbalanced and annoying as hell. Yeah. But yeah, halo wars. I absolutely adore halo wars. I
wouldn't say it's as good as the either one or two just because it's like the two most important
shooters arguably of all time, but definitely of like the last few decades. I know, I know half
life fans are going to be like, excuse me. But yeah, I absolutely love the cut scenes, which is by,
I think it's by the same studio that did the recent pariah nexus cut cinematics. Is it blink
studios? I think that sounds like blink studio. I think it's blink studios, where they did all
the cinematics and they look absolutely gorgeous and everything they ever do looks gorgeous.
I love the characters. And again, like you said, what were the names of the free Spartans you had?
Oh, one of them. I'm forgetting this. Yeah, I was like Alice. I'm like, no, Alice, it was red team.
I think one of them was Alice. Was it Alice? Or am I confusing? One of them was definitely Alice.
Yeah, it was Alice, Jerome and Douglas. Yes. And Doug gets hurt in Halo 2 and it made me sad
and like, no, don't hurt Dougie. Jerome also in a comic beats a flood form over the head with a
folding chair. Nice. Yeah. Or not Jerome. Just like the bit where they're, I think it's, yeah,
yeah, possibly Douglas does that whole like, he jumped, he, when they're fighting them, the elite
honor guard on the bridge and he like flips over them with the, the machine pistols goes,
absolutely brilliant characters and Forge is also badass. And how he's like, hey, I'm going to trick
this elite and yeah, shank him in the neck because that's what I do. Captain Firespitter donated 10
pounds. I think that is, thank you, sir. Halo Wars upgraded Grunt Swarm enough said and gave rise to
Yap, Yap, the Destroyer. Plus Flood Swarms were quite fun too. I think that's my biggest problem
with Halo Wars is that you couldn't play the flood. Would have been so cool, but you can't.
Yeah. But I suppose the trick for you would be like, how are you going to, what's your commander
going to be? Oh, hive mind, I guess. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, you could have made some stuff up
for it. Like, you know, I mean, the Tyranids are a hive mind too, but you can play the swarm Lord.
I guess so. Um, yeah, I, I, it was, it was a nice change of pace because I think especially when it
came out, I remember a lot of people being like, Oh, they're trying to do an RTS. This'll be shit.
And then I was like, Oh, actually it's quite good. Pretty damn good. How did they do that?
That's illegal. You can't do that. You make FPS is, well, I think it was a different studio who
made it. I think I found the pic of Jerome beating a flood for the head in general.
Nice. Very funny. That's awesome. Uh, but before I see if I can open that so that everyone can see
it. Um, but what was the next one after that then? So we got, I think that would then be reach.
Yeah, I guess. I'm once again, this is my, this is my favorite halo game. This would be top of
God's tier for me. Uh, glory. It was my, thank you. Crimson glory. Welcome back. Thank you for the
1999. Nice. My first sci-fi love before 40 K. Good man. Same here. Also as Dr. Halsey, the
halo universe of call. Uh, they both kidnap children into super soldiers. I guess so. Uh,
it checks out. I'm going to say no. Cause Dr. Catherine Halsey sucks.
Oh my God. Reach was my, reach was my first halo game that I really played through as a kid. And
I think characters are very iconic. I think every, you, everyone has their favorite character and
cat getting shot in the head is a funny meme now. So, I mean, she did not get a good death. She did
not get a good fucking out, rip George though. Every death in that game was glorious except for
cats. I'm just sharing that picture. You've sent me, uh, find it. I'm also halo. Reach had the best
multiplayer too. I'm going to say it. I did. Yeah. That was also one that I played a lot. The maps
were great. Forge world was the chair. I have to share the chair before we continue. What's wrong?
And then the last mission of reach is iconic. You can't go wrong with it. It's awesome. And you feel
so alone and so sad in that game for like half or half of it. Once your entire team just dies.
Yeah. And it doesn't, it doesn't ape what ODST did as well. Where it's just like, oh, you're
underpowered and you're lonely because you haven't got any friends. It's like, no, you are the
power of the game. You're the power of the game. You're the power of the game. You're the power of
any friends. It's like, no, you are the power fantasy, but even the power fantasy has limits
when you're not a named character. Um, and especially that we see all the other, yeah,
well true. Um, but even that bit where you see all the like dead Spartans around this, and,
and am I right in thinking that there was a thing where they actually used other players Spartans as
the characters you saw in like ones you played, if you played it, I can't remember exactly what it was,
but I think it was like original reach. I don't know if they did brought that back for the MCC,
but I do remember reading that for the original one. Cause I'm sure there was a thing was like,
if you interacted with players through multiplayer or just recently added ones to the server,
they added them as like the corpses. So it made it feel like, oh, there's actually like dead players
in the, oh, that's creepy. And everyone's, who's your favorite noble team member? Um,
I feel like you told me it was Carter and yeah, I think Carter is still my, my go-to cause he's,
especially that way he goes out. It's like, get the job done, see ya. And he just smashes it to the
sky. I think, I think like June the most, I think I like the way he was in a prequel and he's like,
I'm leaving, I'm leaving before I can make it. I also like, when Carter is like, whatever you do,
make sure that she doesn't fall into enemy hands, uh, Catherine Halsey with the not at all subtle,
uh, implication that if you're captured, what a bullet in her head, which, uh, I kind of wish
she did. I kind of wish they got captured. Sheesh. Sheesh. This is the obvious pick.
I feel like the obvious pick everyone would pick is, is it, is it Jerome? The guy with the big
kukri knife? Oh no, that's Emil. Emil? Emil. Yeah. That was my, that was my pick when I was a little
kid. The edgy, quiet, uh, guy with the helmet. Of course. The P-2000 shooter guy. Yeah. And he goes
out, he's such a badass when he dies too. Gets fricking ran through and then still kills him.
Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. I think realistically my favorite one would be George nowadays,
but Emil has a special place in my heart. F for George. June also was an empty vacuum of space
for a bit in one of the books and lived. Doesn't he die in one of the books though? I don't think
he dies. I thought there was a thing where I read he's protecting Halsey in a book after Reach and
then he dies protecting her. I think that might've been Kurt, uh, Spartan too. Cause that does happen.
Is that in, uh, Ghosts of Onyx? Cause that's a tearjerker. Oh man. I believe that was.
June is still alive apparently. According to Coolest Ron, he's still alive.
If I'm coughing too much, I'm sorry. I'm still a bit ill.
One of the meals, my favorite Nick Swanson based.
But, uh, it's, I don't know. It's just, it's cool. Cause it's the only halo game. It's like,
oh, this is what the Covenant war is like. If you are not the master chief,
it sucks. We are dropping flies. I also like how it's, it's the only game where you get to fight
the Covenant when they're not fractured. Like there's, there's, there's Brutes, there's Elites, there's everything.
Oh yeah. And they're all in the whole might. Yeah. And every other game it's like, oh, the Brutes are against
the Elites and the, and then there's all the newer character, newer models they put in like the, um,
the buggers. I can't remember what they were actually called, but the ones that the Johnson
calls buggers, drones. Oh yeah. The, the creatively named drones. Um, I prefer buggers.
Um, yeah. And it's just, it's like great, great themes that bit where Kat just gets shot out of nowhere, made me cry.
Cause oh my God, what the fuck. It was sad, but also nowadays it's funny cause it's been me.
Yeah. I can't, I can't see that scene anymore without like inserting in my head that Eric Andre will be right back.
Like, especially like when it was first out and you're just playing and you're like, oh, it's, it's getting kind of
bleak, but, oh my God. And it was just that moment of like, oh, even the way it's shot where, um, it's all like low angle shots looking up at the sniper on the ship.
And then the, the, the Spartans as they're shooting back, it's all like on a low angle. So it shows that they're no longer empowered and they're carrying her body with like the, the, the shot with all the flames in the background.
You're like, oh no, I know where this is going. This planet is fucked. Yeah.
Great tagline from the beginning, you know, the end peak.
Right. Uh, I want to say, which of these comes out next? Is it Spartan assault?
I think halo four cause Spartan comes out first with the Spartan fours. Uh, I'd put it in good.
Yeah. Honestly, I know a lot of people, the multiplayer when I was a kid,
multiplayer was good. I liked, you got to see the forerunners. I know a lot of people hate the retcon of humans, not actually being the forerunners anymore.
I personally did not like it that humans were the true forerunner, like that ancient humanity was the forerunners. I was never a fan of that.
I know that's a, some halo people might not like that, but I prefer the forerunners being their own race.
Yeah. I know it's, it's the score is really good. I like the music, the weapons feel pretty good.
Some of the new stuff's interesting, but it's just like, Oh, it's how do you, how do you follow up from five incredible games with like three and an amazing trilogy and two amazing spin-offs?
Like there was no way they could have done what Bungie did with the series. And it was like, Oh, we're going to take it in a new direction. I'm like, Oh, okay.
And then I got to play it and I was like, I like the beginning, starting the ship and whatever.
We did five. Yeah.
It was good.
I mean, the biggest scar I have about four is I hate the new armor. I hate the new Mark six. Oh yeah. The only armor. Why did they do that? And they went nanomachines. Motherfucker, he had no nanomachines on the pillar of the fortana.
Yeah. And he's in like the stasis pod. And then all of a sudden it's just like, Hey John, while you woke up, I've done some redecorating. Like what the f... What is going on?
What is this fit? It's abysmal.
What is with these weird shoulder pads? I look like I've been kit bashed. What is this?
I thought it was good. I think I liked the ending, honestly, where it's like, Hey, look, now it's humanity's time to shine. Covenant war is over. We're on the up and up.
It was solid. And then followed up by Halo five, which was not solid. It was Halo five.
Oh, here we go. We've got a $20 donation from Trezin. Thank you. The Didact looks more like a fish person than the Tao. He is bad fish man. And he's a weird antagonist as well. He's like, I'm the general of the forerunners. I'm so powerful, blah, blah. And I'm like, bang, bang, you die like all the rest. And he has like, and this, I really don't like the cut scenes in that game as well.
Because like they take so much of the they take so much of the freedom the player has out of out of your hands, whereas like you have like something like, for example, Halo three, there are cut scenes where it's like when when guilty spark turns against you.
Johnson.
Johnson, and he's apps Johnson, he briefly, like makes chief kind of locked down. And then, because of Johnson, you get to fight him. That could have easily just been a cut scene where you don't actually fight guilty spark.
Whereas in Halo four, there was that whole bit where like the Didact picks you up and he flings around and it's just like this. Couldn't this just be like a fight couldn't this just be like an actual bit where I fight him the first time and then I'm like, Oh, I'm woefully underpowered. And then you have to go through the whole game to properly fight him again.
to McGann. This is like, I don't know. And the didactics, I don't know. There's something about
the forerunner, like enemies in that game as well. It's just, it's not as satisfying to fight
mechanical, emotionless enemies compared to the goofy grunts running around going, yeah, they be
them and screaming. I get it. But I don't know. Also, I did like the, that, you know, a forerunner
shows up and all the Coven are like, hello, God, how are you doing? We thought you were all gone.
A God is here. Nevermind. We're with you. We got another 10 pound donation from Captain Firespitter.
F to Forge World. Never forget the best custom maps. I peaked in Reach with my best memories there.
One versus five, my friends one time and nearly one in terms of scoring points. Good times.
Yep. Good days. Good days racing in the warthogs down the freaking jumps and crazy stuff.
Hell yeah. Speed Halo was awesome. Going so fast, you would clip into the level.
Like the fucking flash. Yeah. I mean, Halo 4 is fine. Is it then Spartan Assault came out?
I believe so. It's also an Xbox one. They like ported it. Hmm. It's pretty meh in my opinion.
Yeah. It's it's it is a twin stick shooter. It's it's there. It doesn't inspire anything in me.
Moving on. It was the first Halo game I ever went like, I don't I don't care enough to finish this.
By the way, do we know what this is? I played that. I've played that in real life.
You've played it. Oh, is it? Because I've never played it.
It's an arcade shooter game. It's I mean, it's it's in the movie theater in Calgary,
I think. At least it was at one point. And I mean, like, just for the setup, it's pretty great.
I don't remember how great it is. But I mean, no, like, it's an arcade game play. Like if you've
ever seen the games with like the two guns that you can play with your friends and you shoot the
guys and like it's very basic, but it's still it's fun. It's an arcade game. I guess put it in good.
Yeah, I'm happy to put it in good. There's also this weird one Halo for the for the Atari. I
didn't know Halo had an Atari game until I saw this. Someone made an Atari port where it's like
you play as a little stick figure Master Chief and you shoot little pixelated blobs at enemies.
This looks like the original Atari. I see. I haven't played it. If it looks like E.T. for
the Atari, that's a very bad sign. That thing crashed the gaming industry.
So I'm content with putting it in. I haven't played. I doubt any of us have played. I like
the cover art. It looks really cool. Yeah, it does. Well, that's that's because they took the
cover art from the Halo Legends, like now, which is pretty decent. The animation, although a bit
disjointed. Yeah, but it was pretty awesome, especially as a kid. Yeah. Spartan 1330 1337. He
was real, a real one. So is it Halo Master Chief collection next to that or Spartan Strike? And I
have never played Spartan Strike. So we just put Sparks because I haven't played it. Should we just
put that there? Yeah. I mean, if we did play it, it'd probably go right next to Spartan Assault.
It sure is a twin stick shooter. Master Chief collection. Sure, there must be. Better than
it's all the games, but for so long, the matchmaking just didn't work.
It's going to get rid of bad. Yeah, it's frustrating because I remember when I actually
bought it, I just played the campaign for a while. And then I heard about all the multiplayer
problems and so forth. Oh, give this a while. I see. And then a year later, it still wasn't
fixed properly. I was like, Oh, that's a shame. It did give us Halo 2 remastered though. And
Commodore. It did. It did, right? Yeah, that's true. I mean, that was pretty good at least.
We want to bump it up to good then. Yeah, maybe slightly better than the art. There's
also so much credit I can give it because it's like, yeah, it's a great collection of games,
because you took all of Bungie's games and put it in it. And Halo 4. I have the key memory of,
I don't remember the name of the channel. Do you remember that guy, the kid,
the viral video of him like freaking out at Thanksgiving, like flipping the tables over?
He had a video of him with like the Master Chief helmet on with his Master Chief collection. It
was like, crazy dad throws Xbox into pool type of thing. Like those videos. Yeah. I don't remember
his name. It ended up coming out and like showing that his family's actually very happy and it's all
acting. I'm sure someone around here knows what I'm talking about.
I know it was, it was a bit of a bit of a cheeky thing as well for them to go like, Oh,
we'll make a collection of all the best Halo games. We'll sneakily put Halo 4 in there. It's like,
guys, what did you do that for? And it was like, not even that old at this point. It was like,
Oh, we've already got Halo 4. And when it was the Xbox 360 moving over to Xbox one,
you could get it on both. And it was like, guys, are they, are they going to remaster Halo 3? Is
that a thing that's going to happen? I mean, don't know. I mean, it'd be cool. And it'd be a great
way for them to get free money because it's Halo 3. Yeah. But I mean, plus it's, it's been like 16
years since it came out. That's, you know, decent remastering time. Cause was Halo 2 a 10 year
anniversary thing? I believe it was. Yeah. Cause all the other ones got a 10 year anniversary.
Yeah. And then they're like free. Too much work. Can't remake that. Cause of the amazing
multiplayer and everything. We'll have to, we'll have to like work on that. We can't just like
make juggernaut get set. Yeah. That's who it is. Holy crap. Deep cut. I think it was Halo Wars 2
then, which I'll admit I haven't played. Everyone has told me it's Halo Wars 1, but better, but I
haven't played it. It's pretty good. But honestly, I don't like it as much as one, mainly because I
am pedantic and the final boss is a pain in the ass because it's invincible. And it's like you do,
you damage it and then it retreats and then it keeps coming back and you can't fully destroy it.
And I thought it had just ruined my experience. I was like, I love this game. And then that happened.
I was like, I want to die. And then now whenever anyone tells me that I'm like, I don't like this
as much as the first one. I think the best thing I think I can say about Halo Wars 2 was a comment
I saw somewhere, which that it's the best of the latest like Halo games ever since Bungie stopped.
And that's cause three, four, three didn't make it. Yeah, exactly. Which is sad. Again, the
cinematics are beautiful. They have made tweaks and improvements for some reason. They've replaced
some of the voice actors with new people, which I don't like. They replaced Cutter. The adverts
were kind of the advertisings were hilarious. They were funny. Cutter and Atriox haggling over a used
car. Exactly. Yeah. And the multiplayer is fine, but there's obviously like certain commanders,
which are way better than others. So yeah, it's fine. But for me, I don't know, maybe just because
I got to play Halo Wars in its prime and the multiplayer, I can't put it past one for me.
And especially because the last one, the last boss sucks and I hate it. It goes into Met.
You can still get Halo Wars online games, at least on the Xbox one, because they
remastered it, which means they ported it. It's a port. Yeah. But you can still play it. Not a lot
of online games. You might be waiting in matchmaking for a bit, but you can get into a game if you're
patient. That's cool. There we go. Tom Warren says, I've actually played Halo Wars 2, but I didn't
like it. I don't remember if I preferred the first one. Yeah, see, it's not just me. It's not as good
as number one. I believe you, Andy. It's fine. Last one, Halo Infinite. Okay. I might be controversial
again. I think this goes top of great. Okay. I think I watched Bricky's video on it and I think
he put it best, which is they did all of the hard stuff perfectly. You know, the core mechanics of
the game, making the gameplay and gunplay satisfying. The abilities are cool. Grappling hook. You can
never go wrong with your game and you add a grappling hook to it. And then everything on top of that
is a complete shit show. Yeah. I hate some of the guns in it. I don't even remember the name,
but it's that awful fire launcher gun. It's an aerial denial weapon in the single most mobile
Halo game they've yet released. So it's completely worthless. What else do they get? The campaign is
a great big ball of nothing. Shout out to them introducing the Endless and then doing nothing
with them. I think they're called the Endless. I honestly don't remember the name of that, like
alien squid thing where it's like, the four-runners locked us away. We were a great threat to them.
Like, motherfuckers. I forgot they were even in the campaign story. That's how amazing they were.
That's how complete nothing they are. Yeah. It's like Halo 5 was horrible. At least it inspired
emotion in me. The campaign of Halo Infinite made me go, this sure is a game. I'm playing a new game
right now. The online multiplayer is, I love battle passes. I love Fortnite for what it's done
to gaming. I love the $20 Mark V armor. That's so cool and epic. I love that. It has such a group.
That was like, Chris DeGloit says, Halo Infinite is the first time I took a hit of copium.
Bro, I've been huffing copium for like three years now. You're saying a lot of bad things
about this game for it to be great to hear. It's because I think the solid core mechanics of it
are so good. I honestly think it had the potential to be the most fun like a Halo game has been in
terms of pure mechanics. Everything on top of that core was such a mess. Like the maps, there was
like four maps per playlist when it first launched. Half of them sucked. I was so angry because one of
them I thought like it had a different angle on one of the load ins. I thought they added sword
base to the game. They did not add sword base to the game. They just did this really mean thing
where they put a saber fighter in the loading screen in the same like launching position as
sword base. It was not sword base. That made me really fucking upset when that happened.
It's the least I've ever played a Halo game. Honestly, I remember I got it on Game Pass because
I had Xbox One at the time. I played the campaign. I got all the achievements of the campaign.
I tried the multiplayer and I got sick of it within a day. I played it for a day and I went,
right, I've had enough. The campaign, is it the Sidewinder Pistol? You can get that like special.
In the campaign, there's like a special variant of each weapon. If you get the Sidewinder Pistol
variant in the campaign, you can basically play the whole campaign with just this really powerful
pistol and it's like bang, bang, everything's dead. Just make sure you don't run out of that way.
That is just the Halo 1 Magnum. That thing is a bolt gun. The Halo 1 Pistol. That thing is a bolt gun.
And it was like, I've got all these options, but why would I need any of them when I've got this?
It's like, yeah, perfect. And then there was just like a lot. The thing is the campaign to me
felt like someone did a fan mod and they were like, we'll take a Halo game and we'll just make
like a bunch of objectives you can go on and we'll just use the assets from the game to make it.
It didn't feel like a game as much as it felt like, oh, here's some busy work and we put some spawns in.
The open world was cool, but I don't think Halo should be open world. I much prefer Halo.
And it is a linear FPS game. There's nothing wrong with being linear and open world doesn't make it
inherently better. Right, the first one, a linear game with the, what's the word I've looked for,
that pretends to be open world. It's like semi-open world. Yeah. Okay. It's very wide open maps and
they're sprawling, but there is a line to follow. I guess Halo 5 is big.
No, what are you talking about? Colin getting rightfully baby mad. I am getting baby mad
because I'm puffing copium still about Halo Infinite. I think its core is fantastic.
Matt Gravitz says Halo 5 ironically has the best multiplayer. What do you think about that?
Halo Infinite? Nah. The weapons in Halo 5 or Halo Infinite are a whole lot of mid. They introduce
cool weapons with Halo 4 and 5 and then didn't put them in the game in Halo Infinite. There's a lot
of redundancies. There's a lot of issues. The skill-based max making is atrocious to the point
where you can, it's like 99% accurate, determined whether or not you will win a game. So when you
load into multiplayer, you are playing fucking farseer simulator. It's like, yes, I see the
strands of fate. You are going to lose. It doesn't matter how hard you try. Our skill-based matchmaking
is so accurate that your efforts basically don't matter. If it just put you on the losing side,
which is a problem because that's not how skill-based matchmaking should work. It has
problems. It's a bit of an issue. It has monetization issues. I put it in great.
I feel like you with the help, Drake, Eli. Fair. Yeah. I mean, the core is so good. I will keep
going on about this. The gameplay itself is so fun. It's just everything on top of the core
gameplay is a shit sandwich. Yeah. Everything they add to make it more monetizable makes it worse.
And that's why it's like, oh, well, we can't make it more fun because we won't make as much money.
Oh my God. It's like the chef carted out a five-star meal, one of the best things you'll ever eat.
And then for dessert, he ripped ass directly in your face.
We have a donation from Geek Freak for $5. Thank you. He says Halo Infinite campaign allows you to
give six Marines tracking rocket launchers and drive them around in an SUV open world,
murdering everything. Yeah. That's very fun. Like I said, there are a lot of good things about
Infinite. All of the hard stuff they did very well. All of the stuff on top they butchered.
Yeah. Which is a shame. Which is why again, I think it's great. It's not amazing. It's
definitely not godly. And if they ever fully fixed the game, maybe it could go up.
Let's make sure we save this tier list before we move on.
Is Halo Infinite the cyberpunk of Halo? Kind of. Kind of. Is cyberpunk a good game yet?
I've heard. Like everyone who's like, I've heard that tried it again, has loved it. Like I haven't,
I don't think I've heard anyone who went back to it be like, no, it's still shit.
I'll hold. It was good from the beginning and I did not get many bugs and I was playing on a
last gen Xbox. Honestly, I think it's fine. The only bug I got in cyberpunk were completely in
my favor. It was in the first mission where this like boss comes out of an elevator and, you know,
he's probably supposed to be a really hard fight, except he didn't move for me. You just kind of
got sat there in the elevator, T posing. So I just beat him to death. I didn't even have to shoot.
Was that all right? Swinging. Jackie sounded really afraid and was like, oh, all right. I mean,
probably wouldn't be scary. I agree, but. Average elder scrolls dragon fight.
Moving on next, we got the weapons. Now there were a lot of tier lists for weapons,
but one thing was a lot of them were like, how about we have every weapon and all of its variables
in every one of the games? I thought that will take way too long. So this is just
general. Like there is one version of the battle rifle. There is one version of the pistol.
So that's all you get. And I think otherwise it would be a bit too over the top. But let's
start things off with the, I think possibly one of the worst weapons in the game. The assault
rifle. I don't know if I wouldn't put it in D tier. I would put it in C tier. It's on the cover.
It's iconic. It's on the cover. It's the most iconic rubbish weapon ever.
I just think it's mid. Like there's no weapon. There's very few weapons I would
not trade an assault rifle for, but you have the assault rifle. It's like, all right, well, this is
it's solid. Like it's mid. I'm not happy I have it. I'm not upset that I have it. It's there.
I'm going to trade it out immediately, but for the time being, it'll do good enough.
I've also figured out that the exact amount of time to fire in Halo 3 multiplayer, the exact
amount of length of time you need to shoot to then be able to melee kill a Spartan.
So I, yeah, I played a lot of Halo 3. As someone who's very bad with an Xbox controller,
I did not enjoy unloading three clips into my friends to try to get one kill.
And then still not killing them. But I mean, I've already said that Halo is a kind of headshot
shooter. This is like one of the only guns that can't headshot anything because it's not strong
enough and it takes a billion years to kill anyone with it. Any other, like the UNSC weapons are
designed to be like, yeah, headshot capable, the BR, the DMR, the sniper rifle. Then you got this
thing, like, oh, even the pistol does more damage to this and you can shoot someone. You can aim at
someone's head and it still takes half a mag to kill them. I hate this guy.
Yeah, but in Reach and Infinite, it got a lot better. Like in Reach and Infinite, it is a solid weapon.
I don't know why they thought it was a good idea to have 60 rounds for it in the first game.
Because it was funny.
This is ridiculous. And then the next one, they're like 36. I was like, yeah, come on, 60 rounds.
And it's like, it makes this weird noise when you shoot it. And it doesn't sound threatening
at all. And you're like, oh, this is wasting my time rather than being a weapon.
I think it's a C tier.
Yeah. Okay. Okay. Battle rifle.
S tier.
Must be S tier, right?
A tier.
S tier.
Ooh.
It must be S tier.
Even noobs like me could use it.
Why?
Because I think the DMR is S tier and I think it's better than the battle rifle.
I agree.
The battle rifle is easier to use because I'm bad at the game.
I agree.
I think both deserve to be S tier.
I cannot comprehend your skill issue.
I don't know what you want from me. Get better.
One thing I will say, as I think it should be illegal to put the battle rifle in SWAT
because that takes all the challenge away. But the amount of time it's like you got
one in three chance of hitting someone in the head. Like you shouldn't,
as soon as they went from just the DMRs to having that, I was angry. I was like,
don't put it in SWAT. It's my favorite game mode and it makes it too easy. And I'm cross.
And so that's why.
Yeah, I agree.
You need to make SWAT easier. They're both one shot with the DMR or battle rifle.
Yeah, but then it means if you slightly miss, you can just glide over someone's head in a vague
direction. You get one in three chance of hitting.
Oh, so that is an actual skill issue then.
Yeah. It means you get an easier time playing with a gun that shoots three times at once.
So it's like, no, you shouldn't have it. Only DMRs.
We have $5 from Crimson Roy. Thank you again, Mr. Crimson.
Covenant, Carbine, and Brute Shot S tier. I will die on this hill because I'm sad they haven't
brought it back since Halo 3.
Listen, thank you for the $4.99. But you are cracked out of your mind.
The Covenant Carbine is awesome. I'm not going to lie.
It's an awesome weapon. It's not S tier. I'm sorry.
The Brute Shot, I just miss every single shot ever.
So, you know. What's up next?
Well, next up is... Oh, it's the Beamish shooting gun.
S tier. All of the snipers, I think, are S tier.
I can't hit the broadside of a barn with that thing.
It's perfect. And as long as you know how to... If you can time your shots well,
you can either get... Even if you get a body shot, you get a quick one, two,
because it shoots faster than the sniper rifle. But if you're being steady with it,
you never have to reload or overheat. Yeah, it's a solid gun.
It looks weird as hell, but I love it. Although I do hate that it is the
antithesis of everyone playing Legendary on Halo 2 because of the jackals.
Screw you, Beam Rifle. But other than that, it's really cool.
I mean, if you'd like to bring it down a tier just for that alone, I can live with it.
The amount of anger that thing generated in Halo 2 was enough to fucking powerhouse it with that.
Not as much anger as I feel whenever I see anyone using a BR in SWAT.
I'll keep it there. Because if you're going to aim for someone in his head,
you should have one bullet or none. Can you scroll down a bit more for that one?
Which one? That's one of two weapons.
I can't tell if that's the Forerunner sniper rifle or the Forerunner battle rifle.
Is it the bouncy shot one? Or is that? Dude, I don't know what I'm talking about.
That's the pistol. That's the rail gun. That looks like the shotgun.
That's the Forerunner SMG.
Oh, my bad. This is the thing about Forerunner weapons. They all generic glowy blob guns.
Why don't we skip it and see what chance it is for them?
That's the sniper rifle there. That's the sniper rifle.
Oh yeah, that's the sniper.
So this one is the what? This is the...
That's the Forerunner battle rifle, which I think should go next to the other battle rifle,
because it's just a battle rifle with LEDs.
Yeah. What's the point of having the same gun twice?
That's it. Should it be beats here then if it's just copied?
Yeah, I agree. Put it down a notch.
Put it directly under the battle rifle.
You copied Bungie's homework. We're putting you down a step.
I think it might be a bit stronger, but...
This is the pistol?
That's the Forerunner hand pistol, yeah.
D tier.
I don't know, bro.
Rubbish.
You can hold it down and it fires out a shotgun blast of the pellets that never works.
It's a useless feature.
I think chat is all saying it's the sniper rifle, not the BR.
Wait, that's the sniper. Where's it gone? That's the sniper rifle.
We have it back.
Oh, no. I think that is the sniper rifle. I think that one actually is.
What?
Yeah.
Wait, that's the sniper. And the one with the scope isn't the sniper rifle.
I guess so.
Uh, no.
Chat seems to believe it pretty perfectly.
All right. Well, let's put...
Yeah.
So, all right. Then where are we going to put the sniper rifle then?
I love that sniper.
And there's a...
I don't know enough to argue.
Every generic Forerunner.
Dude, it is a one-shot sniper.
That's a testament to how generic the guns look for the Forerunners.
It's a one-shot sniper if you hit, but it only has one round in it, so you better hit.
Yeah, it is.
And it also has the worst, like, you know how games, for some horrible reason,
decided to give every sniper scope a glint because...
Oh.
You are not allowed to have fun with a sniper rifle. Fuck you.
No.
That one has the worst, except it's fitting because it's a one-shot kill.
And it's just a massive, like, laser beam that goes across the entire map
from wherever you're aiming when you scope.
I love it.
This ancient civilization that conquered the known universe had to design this weapon so that you
could see exactly where it was whenever it was used. Makes sense.
Yep.
Chet's not enjoying your decisions.
Brute shot.
It gives you power trip fantasy, and then you miss all your shots and nothing happens.
Brute shot tricks you.
It makes you think this is going to be a really powerful weapon, and then it's just okay.
Yeah, it's got an amazing melee weapon. I love the design of just, you go,
it's got this massive machete blade on it.
It's cool for that, but, you know, I'm not giving... I can't put it above,
you know, like, the AR for that, or the BR, I mean.
Oh, is this Covenant Carbine?
I think also B.
I love this gun.
It's so much worse than the BR, though.
It's got so much ammo.
It's cool, and it was fun to use in...
I know it's cool, but it's worse.
Campaign, by the Halo 2 campaign. I just used that, and then I could, you know, do a great...
If BR is A tier, I want my cool gun to be an S tier.
I'm just saying, 72% of chat agrees it should be an S tier.
I love it because it's got so much ammo in the clip, and this is a headshot shooter.
Campaign alone, you get so much out of this gun.
Yeah, it was awesome.
Blap, blap, blap, blap, blap, blap, blap, blap.
I've killed 15 enemies, I've still got bullets in my clip.
Blap, blap, blap, and you got the little pod on the top, so the design's really cool.
It makes a fun noise when it shoots.
I can think of the sound right now.
Yeah, it's great.
It's like...
And then it goes...
And yeah, and it's great.
And it was the first... It was first in Halo 2, and that was a, like, oh, it's a spin-on.
We've got the battle rifle, but we've also got this weird alien gun.
That's cool.
And it looks really weird and purple.
Yeah, great.
DMR, top of S-tier.
DMR?
Yeah, top of S-tier.
Top of S-tier.
I love that gun.
It's great.
Best gun.
There's a...
Best gun.
ThunderSyker decided to humor my ego, and in this Halo Reach video,
put a clip of me blowing his head off with it on Emirates.
Nice.
Thank you for that... For that ego boost.
ThunderSyker, big fan of that.
I'm gonna have to look that up after the stream now.
It was a really good video in Halo 2.
Halo Reach, not Halo 2.
Halo, comma, 2.
DMR, S-tier weapon.
If you don't agree, your actual skill issue.
That's the end of it.
And it's the only viable weapon to put in SWAT,
because the whole point is you've got to be accurate.
I will die on this hill.
BRs have no place being in a game about accuracy.
Oh, gosh.
Fuck you, Rares Pepe.
I don't need more of that, goddammit.
I know, alright.
They use 7.62 for most of their guns.
You don't need to keep bringing it up.
CrimsonGlory doing five more dollars.
Thank you.
Immediately sharing all of their Rememberses videos.
I love you.
Yeah, I like the DMR in SWAT.
You and your shit.
I get it!
Raiden always wants to strangle me because I like SWAT,
because he might as well just play Call of Duty instead,
if you're going to play SWAT.
I'm bad at the game, so I quite enjoy only having to hit one shot every time.
It just viscerally annoys me that the first time SWAT was a thing,
it was like, oh, it's all about being accurate, and that's the point.
And it's like, we're going to put the burst fire gun.
And it's like, well, what's the point?
I think it should have been called SWAT for babies.
Energy sword.
S-tier, surely.
I would give top of A-tier.
This guy.
Why?
This guy.
It is...
Doesn't understand...
If it was solely off of how cool it was, it'd be the coolest.
It's the coolest at the top of S-tier.
It is, on the bigger maps, an energy sword is a hindrance.
Like on Blood Gulch, or like Hemorrhage and Reach, or like maps that are very wide and open,
you are walking around with a big target on your back that says, blow my head off with a DMR.
But on the less big maps, it's awesome.
Yeah, which is why I think it's an A-tier.
It's very situational.
And in those situations, it's kick ass.
I do love it in the campaign, though, especially the 2 boss where the guy, the Arbiter's first boss fight,
and he's just like, I'm invisible.
And he's there at the end, he's just like smack, smack, there you are.
Ta ta ta ta ta.
It's so iconic, dude.
It's so perfect.
It deserves S-tier just for that.
And the scene where again, the Arbiter kills the Prophet, and he goes,
and he does that really great like noise when he dies.
If it was about how fucking cool it is, I would agree, top of S-tier.
Is this how Andy felt for voting Alexis Pollock's S-tier on the horse he covers?
I understand now.
Surely.
Fire grenades.
A bit weird.
B.
They were there.
They were whatever.
Yeah.
Is this the flame thing?
They were just like, oh.
Colony, god fucking damn it.
Flame, flame thrower.
It doesn't feel like it should be a healer weapon.
Yeah.
Put it in C because it fucks the flood up real good, and other than that, it's slow.
It has no range.
Which game was that one even in?
Three.
Well, it wasn't CE, but I think only on the PC for whatever reason.
Oh, OK.
Huh.
Right.
That's weird.
And it's fun to use, and because it's at least in three, it's a weapon you pick up like a
turret, so you can technically hold three.
But it's not great.
It's really only useful for burning the flood, which does a very good job at that.
Outside of that, it's not great.
What is this thing?
I can't remember.
That's the laser sniper from Reach, when they replaced the beam rifle with that laser beam.
Oh.
I also can't hit anything with that, so.
I give it low A or high B. It's fun to use, and it requires a bit more skill because it's
a concentrated beam, not just a sniper tap.
Oh, that thing.
I forgot that existed.
I think it was my favorite sniper.
He's your favorite sniper.
Damn it.
Tom Warren, with $2, says, hey, Colin, do you know the UNSC uses 762 rounds?
I did.
Thank you.
I'm aware the UNSC does not use 556, they use 762.
Thank you.
I'm assuming this is a reference to a video you've previously done.
Yes, I made, I fucked up and said they use 556 for most of their stuff, and no one has
let me stop hearing about it.
All I'm saying is I've made mistakes in my videos, and that will never end.
People are so pedantic.
It's crazy.
Amberlee Vale donated $5.
The Swagnum better be S for its role in Halo.
Don't worry.
We are going to, should we just skip ahead to the Swagnum?
Sure, we can put it in S tier.
Colin, what were you about to say?
It's, oh, look, look.
In Halo C, it's easy S tier, right?
I think it's great in Reach 2.
In 2 and 3, the pistol is dog water.
It sucks.
And if we're just doing one for all of them, we have to include those two games, so it
can't be S tier.
Because if you have the pistol in 3, it's fucking trash.
I mean, 2 is rubbish.
1 is amazing.
The Sidewinder and, I mean, the AdSideKick is good too in Infinite.
It's A tier because in so many games it's good.
But in the games, it's not good.
It sucks.
Even when you dual wield them, it's like, oh, in 2, especially in 5, 5.
Honestly, the disappointment when I first booted up Halo 2, and I was like, oh, I'm
going to go to Halo 2, and I was in that first level.
I'm like, oh, look, it's the Magdom.
And then I was like, I'm going to take out this elite.
And it's just like pew, pew, pew, pew.
And I was like, what?
What have you done, Bungie?
No, it's shit in half of the games.
In the first game, it was the best.
And then the second one, it was the worst thing in the game.
And I was like, you've wounded me, Bungie.
I'm going to send a cease and desist for you to ever do this again.
I will turn up, and I will, I will, I don't know, I'll tell you off.
I got to thank Colin.
I am also an elite preferred species.
When we play Halo 2 multiplayer, I choose the elite.
343 needs to bring back elite.
They are different pistols.
But we're counting all of them together.
We need this to be a five-year-long tier list.
And there's no other ones that I can see.
So I think, yeah, it's got to be done.
What is this?
Oh, that's the ODS.
Oh, right.
We got to mention the ODST pistol then.
The silenced one?
Yeah.
That one specifically.
Put it behind.
Yeah.
Put it there.
Amberly Veil with $2.
Thank you.
He says, sounds like a skill issue if you ask me, Mr. No Work.
Sheesh.
These guys are throwing it at you, dude.
I've got a fucking Halo tattoo, all right?
I am the boss.
So do I.
So does Andy.
Nice.
I have Halo Mega Bloks in my room still.
There we go.
Nice.
That's the one I got.
I UNFC'd one.
Very sexy.
Throwing some skin.
I won't show my face, but I will show my arms.
Shoulder reveal.
Frag grenade.
It has an insulin pump on it, so it's a little scuffed.
I enjoy panic throwing these before I die and never getting anything.
I mean, they're kind of boring, but they're very useful.
They're good.
They're not one-hit kills, but they're very good for area denial or flushing someone out.
They are one-hit kills for grunts, which is amazing.
Yes, that's very fun.
Especially if the little noises in the game.
The best thing in all of Halo is just throwing a grenade in a bunch of five of them.
Crimson Glory just donated $2 saying, heresy.
Different kind of heresy against the great journey.
I love this gun.
It's the gloopy boom gun.
It's the fuel rod gun.
It's the rocket launcher, but worse and not fun to use.
I like the fuel rod though.
Is it the actual fuel rod or something else?
That's the fuel rod gun.
You fire at the ground and instead of exploding and dealing damage to the enemy, it bounces
and then goes somewhere off rocketing to Venus.
Then you die to some rocket field with a pistol.
Then you feel really dumb and I don't like that gun.
But it shoots big green globules and goes kaboom.
If you hit a vehicle with it, it's great.
I can live with it being somewhat high because it's great for vehicles.
If it's against people, the rounds have this arc that a rocket launcher should not have,
but it does.
I don't like it.
It has a lot of ammo and it's strong when you hit.
I get to shoot a lot of big exploding things.
Shut.
I'm going to keep it at.
Gravity hammer.
S tier.
This guy argued to put the sword in a tier, but because they made the gravity because
gravity hammer beats sword if you swing at the right time.
You can do that with the gravity hammer too, but this has area of effect in infinite.
Nothing is scarier than turning a corner and a man new year's starting the downward swing
of the hammer.
You just have to accept your face.
Is it griff ball?
Is that what it's called?
The gravity ball game.
That was really fun.
Hello for and as war hammer creators, we have to give special thanks to the
hammer involved.
It's great.
Thunder hammer.
The war hammer 40 K.
I am the next grenade launcher from.
I don't remember if I ever really used it.
It's a, you can get skills with it.
It's a little hard, but you can, you can also EMP vehicles, which is fun.
Yeah.
But it's got a weird gimmick where you hold down the trigger and you let go to blow up
the rounds.
It was just kind of like, oh, that can be fun, but that's the, it's not really much of
a two.
It's like, oh, I'm going to get a lot of damage.
I'm going to get a lot of damage.
This isn't that useful.
Sorry.
But the AI will just run away from it.
As soon as they see it, millions will die tonight for this tier list.
They will try.
What is the incineration cannon?
Another foreigner weapon.
That's a cool name.
It's a forerunner rocket launcher.
I see tier that woman's fun.
Is it?
I can't remember it.
It's a, it shoots like the five red blobs.
And if they, if enough of them hit the enemy, they just disintegrate.
Okay.
I don't remember this gun existed, but then again,
I mean, if it's a rocket launcher, I assume it does some good damage.
So I'll put it there.
It does.
Oh, the Morley pistol.
I never understood this when I was a kid.
I didn't know how to use it.
I like the more pistol.
I can dual wield it.
Solid.
I want to put it here.
Yeah, I can live with that.
I've never been a fan of it, but I see why people like it.
Closer.
I remember once I did a multiplayer game of free and I was,
all my teammates dropped out of the game and it was me versus five
character, five other players.
And I won the match just because they kept getting them all isn't hiding
in corners.
When they were trying to get, I was just like bang smack, bang,
but it was like four or five V1 and I won and it was like, okay,
I get to be a bit of a Dick with camping.
If I'm like outnumbered, come on.
And it was like, I'm going down,
but I'm going to take two or three of you with me each time.
Chat chat wants the ma five B to be reconsidered.
That would be the assault rifle.
Final.
But in detail.
No, no.
The wrong way.
Oh,
tough.
Anyways,
it's that one.
It makes me angry because I feel like I should be really powerful,
but it doesn't work.
Is this the lazy?
What is it?
It's a,
you grab it and it's, it's an halo three.
And I think ODST in campaign, it's a turret weapon,
but never in multiplayer.
It has eight shots, eight rockets,
uh, that against players don't lock on and they go very slow.
We do not have high splash damage.
So using against players isn't great.
Using his vehicles is solid,
but it is only useful against vehicles.
And if they're in a Banshee,
you've wasted your ammo because the Banshee will just do like the loop,
D loops around it.
And you wasted your weapon.
There's, there's more calling slander than Colin try to clean his room.
Challenge impossible.
Fuck you.
Look, my bed isn't made.
And that has a bunch of shit on it.
Cause it's my painting table.
My room is clean.
I guess this is my room.
It's still called office room.
Is there an airstrike laser pointer weapon or am I just crazy?
Do I not know what I'm talking about?
Uh, there is.
That was in reach.
Only reach.
I think.
I think only reach.
Yeah.
My room is messy.
It's not dirty.
Um, needly carbine.
S tier.
Which game is this one in?
Reach.
Just reach.
It's the Co, it's the covenant carbine, but better.
Cause it's also a needler rifle.
It's also a needle and they explode.
Explodes.
That's a put it like here.
Cause I remember it only vaguely.
Cause it's only been in reach.
So yeah.
I think it's kind of cool, but it is also a bit like w we have needlers at home,
but it's also like, I guess they, they made it for each.
And then they were like, oh, we, we really don't need it again.
It's kind of already doing double duty for two weapons.
We already have that exists.
So maybe a bit too close to the sun.
Uh, but speaking of needlies needler.
I put an eight tier pass every time I shoot.
I load an entire clip and expect it to kill someone.
And then it just doesn't.
And I don't know what happened.
And I'm dead.
The way it works is your needler is sucks and it's garbage.
Instant homing, instant tracking and close you up in three shots,
but yours, the whole clip is made,
replaced with nerf rounds and will never.
And then you feel silly.
Needler over DMR, Amberley Vail.
Thank you for your support.
This stream, however, you are out of your fucking.
Yeah, I've got to admit.
Needler is fun.
But it's iconic and it's fun, but it ain't the MR.
The MR gang rise up plasma grenades.
Got to go at the top.
Surely.
I'd say iconic.
They have less damage radius than the frag grenade.
They stick your hands though.
I never actually stick them, but you know.
I think bottom S.
All right.
Listen, plasma is not above the energy sword.
Yeah.
The great is not above the sword.
Sticking a warthog's tires is funny.
Watching it.
50 miles an hour.
But yeah, no, it is fair.
It's very fun.
I just.
There's that.
It's very fun.
There's definitely better options, I feel.
Although it is.
I don't know.
It is also.
I can't.
Grunt is awesome.
I am horrifying.
Stumpy little legs.
Kabloom P gun.
Be.
It shoots plasma grenades, but they're slow.
You can just kind of avoid them.
Yeah.
Well, they're great for vehicles again.
Does never tracking ability as well.
It does.
But again, they're so slow that if you're like up close, you can kind of weave around them.
And from far away, you just see them coming.
So you just pop behind a corner.
Plasma.
Oh, sorry.
Oh, if you want to kill a player with it, you need to let you also.
You cannot fire just one because they will avoid it.
No problem.
Almost every time you need to use a lot of the weapons ammo and that kind of holds it back.
Plasma pistol. This is a weird one because it's like it's a really, really useless weapon unless you're using it to get out of elite shields.
And then it's great.
It's it's good for shields and like stunning vehicles, except they took that feature out in infinite for some reason.
I will never understand.
Yeah.
But I also don't like using it.
I use the plasma pistols on fun.
It's good, but I don't enjoy using it.
Yeah.
I also am too bad to use it.
It kind of it means you have to sacrifice a weapon slot for something that's good at taking shields down.
And while that's amazing for the first couple of Halo games, as more weapons get added to the roster, I feel like it becomes less and less relevant over time, especially when you get to input.
It was like, look at all these many guns.
Oh, I forgot this even existed.
Whereas in Halo one, it's essential to have in your loadout pretty much all through the game because you're only going to be fighting elites as the main threat.
But it is what it is.
Plasma pistol is as good as me five B and therefore should be a tier.
That's what that's what has been said.
No, I don't care how much ammo it has if it's not fun to use.
And also it's can't do headshots and it takes a billion shots to kill anything.
So it's it's a time killer.
Even if you like just trying to sweep through enemies, you could be getting so many more kills per minute.
Then it peaks and then it's been only downhill.
Also, we got the bruise shot at the boot and the covenant version right above the plasma rifle or pistol.
I mean, yeah, we're not above the assault rifle.
No, no, I really don't like them.
I know the brute one is supposed to be a bit more powerful.
But isn't top of C tier closer to the.
Yeah, yeah.
But get the plasma is at the bottom there.
But put the top of C tier before you chat.
This is your mind.
I mean, I must admit, I've played all the Halo games since Inceptions.
I hate this gun.
It's just it's a lot of fun and see.
And even outside of that, I don't like it that much for efficiency, but it's fun using.
I like the shoes.
Sure, I really don't like them.
Where do you reckon it should be?
It's bottom of C tier, I think.
Both of them know about the plasma pistol.
Don't put it below the plasma pistol.
Come on, don't do this to me.
Is the plasma pistol more than that than?
Yeah, but it's the plasma pistol.
Fun.
If you make them is stuck in a so plasma pistols getting stuck down.
It's just I don't like them because they do barely any damage.
No headshots.
These are the weapons I only ever pick up if I have nothing else to pick up around me
or I can't be bothered to just punch something to death.
I agree that the AR should be higher, but you know, G plasma rifles iconic.
True. It's iconic, but it's not a good weapon.
Just I mean, the the the assault rifle is iconic, but it's not a good weapon.
It can't do anything.
Any of these others can do.
That's why the BR became the most the iconic weapon of Halo 2 because they realized, oh, this is rubbish.
You need this to be the cover art weapon because this is rubbish.
That's why they did it.
In fact, they had the dual oozey's ahead of this.
Yeah, that was the whole point.
They went, oh, this looks cool, but it's toss.
What is that?
This is the turret, the covenant turret, right?
Yes.
Pretty fun beats here.
Yes, I don't know.
I want to say it's here.
It's powerful, but worse in every way, but it's still a mounted turret.
Yeah. Yeah, it's a mounted turret.
It's like these useless at doing damage unless you're quite close.
And it's more powerful than a conventional weapon.
So it's like, oh, just use this quickly and then I'll go back to like having mobility.
But it's fine. It's fine.
Those are the four on a grenade.
Yeah, what is that?
And in theory, they do something bad.
I think it hurts you if you walk close.
But what I would do is I would throw them at an enemy and then they would go off and then I would die because instead of shooting them, I threw a shit grenade.
Yeah. Yeah.
Baby mad mode engage.
Do not fucking get started.
I did mention the new combo slightly Mac.
I did.
Yeah, it's it's useful.
It's just not fun to use a plasma pistol.
I feel dirty.
Yeah.
Oh, the rail gun.
I think it's in four and five, too.
I think it's in. Yeah, four.
I remember it from four.
It's pretty cool.
Bottom of a or top of B, I would say.
Yeah, one shot if you hit it.
Decent against vehicles.
It's no rocket launcher, but it's a good it's it's solid.
It's being a rocket launcher rocket launcher.
ATS tier.
Sure, ATS tier.
I'm fine with it.
It's a rocket launcher.
That's yeah.
I feel like that's the end of the conversation.
And that scene from Halo 2.
Can we possibly make any more noise?
What was the story of like they kept taking off and then putting back on the tracking ability?
I don't know why they did that.
I'm assuming it was just like a balancing thing because I think it comes back, but only for vehicles and some games.
It's got tracking and reach, but only on vehicles, which might have been the case in two.
I don't remember that well.
I'm I've always assumed it was just like a balancing thing.
Oh, boy.
The boss of Gobble Guy says I don't even know if I want an epic rap battles to you.
This tragedy I'm witnessing.
This is a trash channel run by trash individuals.
Making some enemies.
Looks like.
Yeah, apparently.
I don't even know what this.
Oh, that's the set will be.
Yeah, which is it's kind of fun.
A tier.
It's fun to use.
It's not the best, but it's fun.
Yeah.
I mean, it's got a nice amount of damage to it.
Surprisingly, for multiplayer, it's got a nice range.
It's very precise.
No headshot potential, but it does a lot of damage if you just keep tracking it.
If you can keep the beam on them, it's fantastic.
If they move slightly out of the beams path, you've probably just lost the fight, but it's fun.
Yeah. Yeah.
Very situational in that regard.
Shotgun shotgun.
That must be a steer.
Yeah.
Probably like here.
Surely.
DMR, then it's like I think that's like a Stargate Atlantis meme where it's like this is a weapon designed to strike fear and energy sword and the shock is like this designed to kill.
No, I would agree.
The shotgun beats sword and hammer if you know what you're doing.
Not hammer as often, but definitely the sword.
Bolt true is a very cool metal to get.
I mean, what can you say is a shotgun.
It's great.
It's a shotgun.
You go.
You pull the trigger and whatever's in front of you dies.
It's great.
It's essential for the library.
What is this?
Is this the SMG?
The first one, I believe.
That's a classic.
Yeah.
It's classic.
If it's up there, the assault rifle surely must also be up there.
So where are we putting this thing?
Because I think if the conventional one and we give it this is the ODST one, right?
So this is because you're not dual wielding it.
It's a little underwhelming.
But if you are in shreds people.
Yeah.
I feel like it should be like.
Because that's the only thing on its own.
It's a bit shit.
If you're dual wielding, it's great.
But it's only great if someone is like in shotgun distance.
And in that case, why wouldn't you use the shotgun?
So I'm like, I never really use this gun because for me, it's only in like Halo 2 that it even shines.
And it was all like, hey, guys, it's on the box side.
It's really cool.
And then the ODST one does more damage and it's a bit more versatile.
So I want to put that ahead of it.
Even though you can't do a will.
I haven't played enough.
What would you say, Colin?
I think it's good there.
Yeah.
I put the I put the regular SMG above the ODST one because I think the ODST was cool because it's silenced.
But you can't do a wield it.
At least in ODST you can.
Right.
So yeah.
What are they saying?
You better watch your first points because of this.
Sorry, bro.
I'm just here.
I don't want to tell you.
Sniper Rifle.
Is that what that is?
Sniper Rifle.
S tier, right?
Second in S.
I have very fond memories of the Sniper Rifle because a video I had footage of me using the Sniper Rifle is the first time someone told me to kill myself on YouTube.
I feel very fondly about that comment.
I feel very fondly.
I can't find the comment anymore, but I gave it a heart.
And if I could find it again, I would print it out and put it on my fucking fridge or something.
They say never meet your heroes, but they should really say never let them rank Halo weapons.
Tough stuff, man.
I'm getting that.
Spartan Laser.
It's a great gun.
S again.
Yeah.
I like it.
I know I can't hit anything with it again.
343 for some reason refuses to put it into infinite.
I don't get it.
It's an awesome weapon.
It's so fun to use.
Has it made an appearance since?
What was the last game it was in?
I remember it was in Reach.
I think it was in Five.
Was it Five?
I don't know.
Actually, I don't know if it was in Five.
I feel like it was in Free and Reach and then it never turned up again.
It was in Four.
Was it in Four?
Okay.
Hmm.
Colin is doing research for us.
Colin, you better be careful next to Warhammer Fest.
Yeah, it was in Four and Five.
It's going to hand you a very strongly worded letter.
It was in Five.
Okay.
So, Mac, I can't remember what your Five.
It was so bad.
Oh, shit.
The thing is, even when I think back at things like Halo Five, I can't even remember what the levels were like.
I remember the first bit where you're with the gang and you're just kind of going through the snowy place.
And that's the only thing I remember from that game.
There was just no iconic set pieces or anything.
I remember the G-Fold lock like a lawn chair.
Oh, yeah.
I can remember the cutscenes, but I can't remember the actual areas of the game.
I remember there was a level on a space elevator that it's a space elevator in Halo, so it gets blown up.
Stop trying to remember Halo Five.
Fair point.
Brute Grenade.
It's like a plasma grenade.
It's not even in my brain.
I don't need to remember everything.
And it's bad.
It's funny throwing it in a bubble shield when someone's in it because the spikes ricochet around the bubble shield.
I didn't know that.
It is actually pretty fun to use, but I just don't think it's worse than the plasma grenade otherwise in every other way.
It's sticky, and it can even stick to walls, so you can do some cool laterals with it.
It's an instant kill if you stick someone, isn't it?
Yeah, or if they walk on top of it, but that's any grenade.
I think otherwise it has the lowest damage radius out of all the grenades if you aren't on top of it.
Should I put it below the fire grenade?
Well, that's probably better than the fire grenade.
A little above the fire grenade.
Fire grenade is also in almost none of the maps in the game it's in, so you almost never see it.
It was like someone just made it in the dev team, and then they were like, oh, we have to put this in somewhere now.
Thanks, good man, epic, cool, awesome, goblin guy, real friendship with one and hey lore and lore crimes channel ended, endless space is my new best friend now.
Craver lore?
I'll get the endless space on here someday.
Trust me, fellas.
What is this thing?
I don't know what that is.
Chat, do you know what this thing is?
We don't know what this is. It's hard to tell.
Endless space, Cheetahs will be...
It must be a heavy weapon of some description, surely.
I don't know what that is.
I don't know.
Let's put it away for now. I can't tell what it is.
Put it in D for now.
D for now, because I don't know what that is.
That's the Forerunner assault rifle SMG thing.
Oh, this is trash.
It's like, it makes cool sound, doesn't it?
It goes pew.
It goes pew, but it's really inaccurate.
I remember it being pretty solid in four, and then I feel it.
It's a storm rifle, whatever that is.
What the hell is a storm rifle?
I think it was better in five. Oh, God, now I know what a storm rifle is. Fuck that thing.
I would like to look this up, too.
Reach plasma. Is that what it is?
Oh, it's the square one. It's this, but square.
Oh, yeah, this is D tier.
That thing is garbage.
I hate this thing, and I forgot it existed.
I liked it when it was cute.
Using it is not fun. I feel dirty with the plasma pistol.
I feel unhappy when I hold it.
I don't even know why it exists. They were just like, we have this.
Why don't we make it worse in Angular? Why?
I don't know why this... We have a quota of guns to make in a new game.
I guess we'll just do this again.
But worse.
Yeah.
Tom Warren with $2 for the hot take. Endless Legend is better than Endless Space.
I don't know, bro. I do like Endless Legend.
I don't know what that is.
There's no one fallen in Endless Legend.
Yeah, there's no craves. Necrophage, I guess, but whatever.
Turret is A, right?
A if not S.
Surely S tier.
I agree, S tier.
Infinite is the best the turret has ever been.
It is an actual proper deadly mounted turret.
Especially an infection. Oh my god.
You find a turret and then you're good until you're the last Spartan alive.
And you're the last Spartan alive because you got to the turret first.
But otherwise, even in the games, it's not that great.
I thought it was not perfect in 3.
But your brain still goes, that guy is holding a minigun.
I'm fucked, even if you're not.
It sights you out because it's a turret.
Chad, I'm sorry that this tier list made you sad.
Forgive us.
For the last tier list, I wanted to ask, there's that Power Armor one or there's just a Star Wars Soldiers tier list.
Okay, well I've got the sci-fi armor one listed.
Should we put it to the chat?
We'll make a quick poll.
We'll just put two.
What were the two ones you got?
So it was sci-fi armor tier list.
Yeah, it's just kind of, not everyone, I mean there's a lot of fucking sci-fi armor.
Just kind of like the highlights I found, like the ones I was like, yeah that's definitely iconic.
There's that and then right under it was the Star Wars Soldier.
They're both right next to each other when I linked them in general.
Okay, well we'll give the chat a couple of minutes just to do that.
By the way, I know some people were like, Andy we didn't see your chatty because it was too small.
Yeah, there it is.
That's the UNSC one that I've got.
Along with my one from the Yakuza series, Gears of War and what's the other one? Oh, and Metal Gear Solid.
Got a whole batch.
Looks fun. It's so good.
I got the dragons.
Boromir of the White Tower, the best metal model.
I secured third place in the Lord of the Rings tournament and I brought home Mr. Boromir.
Can't see him very well, but he's there.
That's pretty cool though.
Me likey.
Ooh, we got 17 votes on sci-fi armor.
Crimson Glory.
It's looking like...
Even after what we've done, Crimson Glory still donated $5. Thank you.
The tierless appear heresy aside from Carbine being A tier.
I'm sure Crimson Glory also said, I regret ever giving you a super chat.
Sorry.
Tough times.
I think that's 80%. I think that's pretty definitive sci-fi armor.
Based Yakuza mode, we've never been more back.
If anyone's curious, I've got the...
I can probably show a little bit of the dragon bits that I've got as well.
I've actually got the whole dragons going all the way across.
I forgot about this.
It goes all the way down my back because I had spare money during lockdown.
That was good.
Let's see, so screen share.
We've got the sci-fi armor.
I've got it to most of my forearm.
There we go.
It's a lot of Star Wars, I'll admit still.
There's a lot of Star Wars.
I think I also messed up because a battle droid is not an armor, but I put a super battle droid there.
That's my bad.
Hi.
Are we just going to go left to right like usual?
Might as well.
We've got our bread and butter, so we've got to be nice to them.
Warhammer Man.
Terminator armor is B tier.
Really?
I mean, compare it to the iconic standard space marine armor.
It's not...
Yeah, there's a piece of the Emperor's armor in it, bro.
Surely.
I don't care about how it looks.
It is not above standard space marine armor.
It's so much more iconic.
I guess put it wherever.
I'll concede on this one, but whatever you put it in, it needs to be below standard space marine armor.
That is so much cooler.
So what have we got here then?
So if we have S tier because they are iconic, they've got the pauldrons, they've got the whole look.
I feel like...
I don't think space marine armor should be an S tier.
You're going to tell me that a space marine is as iconic as a clone trooper or a store?
Yeah.
No! Not at all!
Hang on. That's the whole thing.
They're the poster boys of Warhammer, the guys that literally pay our bills.
Imagine showing any person on the street.
You grab a random dude, you've got a clone trooper and a space marine.
Which of those two are the people going to be able to name quicker?
Like, oh, that's a clone trooper.
That's some big dude in armor.
But they'll probably be like, oh, I've seen that before.
That's that thing.
That kind of like is an IP thing.
But I think they'd also be like, oh, that's pretty sick.
Yeah, but then they'll go, oh yeah, that star was easy.
I don't need to think about that.
Tom Warren with two dollars.
Alright, buddy.
Space marine is not.
Would you like to read Tom Warren's donation, Colin?
I would because I saw the number he put in it.
Thank you, Tom Warren, for the two dollars.
Don't worry, Colin, it's a simple mistake.
7-6-2.
You put two Ls in my name. You made a mistake.
One L.
Thank you.
Get rekt.
Alright, then.
Is this Mando?
That's just kind of general Mandalorian armor.
They're pretty iconic.
I've got to say they're probably more iconic than space marine.
Put them in A.
A tier for sure.
Mandalorians are like more popular than storm troopers to an extent.
Yeah, but they're not more popular than like clones.
Clone trooper armors.
One of the 500 different variations of clone trooper armor I put in there.
But again, they're derivatives of Mandalorians.
So that's kind of the point.
Yeah, but I'm looking at the armor.
Yeah, I think clone trooper has a cool armor.
Yeah, quite a bit of pretty baller and Mando's pretty baller.
What was the fact that Mando were awesome?
Django's pretty baller.
Mandalore the invincible.
I know.
The extra L represents the 7-6-2 round incident.
God damn it.
It's not like how everyone has put, now just put, Colin.
Colin slander stream.
Stop putting Colin in the chat.
Colin slander stream.
Stop it.
Yeah.
But you guys reckon?
I think A tier.
I think it's really cool, but I don't think it's space marine tier.
I put it below Turbinator honestly.
Wow.
I don't know if I'll go after that.
That's just like the rebel outfit.
Especially in the Endor.
Personally.
Just a guy.
If you took the rifle out of his hands, you wouldn't know it was Star Wars.
Alright, I have to say though.
Can we skip over?
I had a couple, a lot of these.
Go to the right next to the first order stormtrooper.
Like third from the right.
Third from the right.
The Hoth Endor armor.
Oh my god.
So cool.
That's S tier.
All he did was change the color and now it's S tier.
Truly though.
Warframe is the strongest sci-fi warrior.
Do not say that in my chat.
I think we need to add an S like a double S tier.
Because I think S tier is going to be very populated otherwise.
Alright, how about we do this?
We just move everything down a space.
I don't like it.
We can redo it at the end.
Okay.
What's this?
That's Fallout.
It's kind of hard to tell.
That's like the Fallout power armor.
I'd put that in my chat.
Yeah.
They sell the box art on.
But I would like it.
It's pretty cool. Pretty fun.
Although, key question.
Which is cooler? Enclave or Brotherhood of Steel armor?
I mean I gotta go with the Brotherhood of Steel.
I just think that's cooler.
Enclave armor is also...
They're all very cool.
I just think some of the enclave armor gets a bit funky.
Like with the big orange eyes.
Which is a personal thing.
I do not like as much as the Brotherhood of Steel armor.
But it's still awesome.
I like the enclave health.
I like the enclave helmets more than I like the Brotherhood's helmets.
But I like the armor less than the Brotherhood.
So if you swap them over, I'd be like, that's perfect.
I have played a little bit of Fallout DJB.
I just haven't really played through it.
I need to though.
It's good.
I've only played the newer ones.
So I played 3, New Vegas, and 4.
And I tried 76 when it was on Game Pass.
And I went, this is dreadful.
It was stumbling.
Oh, these guys are great.
I like these guys.
I'm not gonna lie.
That's gotta be at least C.
It cannot be D tier.
I love their helmets.
I'm a Rebels guy. I don't know why.
I mean, I love them.
I love their...
The poor captain who gets clunked against the wall.
And his helmet hits the wall.
He goes, bonk.
Yeah, they're great.
I don't know why they're so fine.
But iconic in its own way. Just mainly because of the helmet.
Yeah, I love it.
Oh, Commandos.
S tier.
Clone Commandos. S tier.
How much of that is because you really enjoy the game?
Yes.
They're just so cool though.
They're so cool.
Who's got the coolest armor from the Commandos in the game?
I accidentally put them on twice.
Where's the second one?
They're right next to the Scout Trooper.
I'm not sure what's the S tier by the way.
I can't see.
That one.
The group of guys to the left.
Oh yeah.
That Pickle's hard.
Who's got the best armor of the squad though?
Sev.
Yeah, with the red.
You know George Lucas was the one who suggested putting that on.
Which is funny.
That's cool.
George Lucas has some good ideas.
He just needs a filter.
I know what Red Letter Media said though.
He's a great world building guy.
He's just not a great narrative guy.
He can make a cool world.
He can do the little details.
But he struggles when it's like, oh I've got to make a story.
When he has uncontested control of the plot, we get space politics for three hours.
Because even the original trilogy were mainly of assistant directors.
I can't remember his name, but the assistant director was the guy who basically made it so good.
And there were obviously different writers involved.
I need to say something.
The prequels are not good.
With the sequels having come out, people fight them over like, no the prequels were actually good the whole time.
They're not good.
Revenge of the Sith is okay.
I like Revenge of the Sith.
The other ones are only cool to see the cool things.
For Darth Maul in the first one.
And then Battle of Geonosis.
And then you just ignore the other parts.
Then you have the rest of the movie.
Then you have the rest of the movies.
Then you have the rest of the movies and they're shit.
Dooku hired a guy who hired a guy who hired a bug to go kill Pen.
My dog wants to come in. My dog hears me ranting.
Dog camp, dog camp.
Pop, pop, pop.
We need to see the pop.
Yeah, bro. That's a different kind.
We can't see the pop from this camera.
She ran off camera.
Oh no.
There was a pop. You'll have to believe us.
Lethina is here.
She's sniffing the blanket.
Nice.
Oh, the clone troopers from the animated series.
A tier?
That's also just kind of general.
Like the first clone armor.
If space marines are A tier, I give these guys A tier too.
Yeah, I think the thing I did was I put a lot of repeats.
Because I was making this and the Star Wars troopers only at the same time.
So because clones and arch troopers are different soldiers in the Republic,
but they're still both clones, but they were the same armor,
a little bit of overlap because of that.
I mean, I want to say that these are kind of similar as well.
Yeah, that's what I was doing.
Because that one, the intention behind that was both, like, that's the Mark II clone armor.
Except the problem was when I was making the other one,
I had Coruscant Guard and that's just general clone troopers in my head.
So I put both of them on, not realizing that was the wrong tier list I did that on.
So that's just like...
B.
Okay, calm down.
I'm only joking.
I say B as much as I love them.
I have to admit they're not as iconic as like space marines or something.
I think for determining what an Eldar is going to do,
they're much better than space marines since they all have color-coded specific armor.
But space marines are the face of Games Workshop for a reason.
Also, Eldar have still the old models, so it doesn't help.
Got a question in the chat, by the way.
Is clone armor even powered or is it just like plating?
No, it's just armor.
I think the Republic Commando armor is technically power armor maybe.
Well, I mean, at least with the Commandos, you can see the visors light up and everything.
So I'm assuming they have a bit more stuff.
But then when you look at the original Stormtrooper, you're like,
he's just wearing porcelain.
Why is that? That's rubbish.
I see the Kalin Saw Kamanat's video.
I don't actually know who Kamanat is.
So he's got good opinions, I guess.
Are these Phase One clones? Is that what they're called?
Yeah, are these the first?
I don't know. It makes Episode Two a watchable movie.
I'd give them A-Tier personally.
Yeah, baby. It's worth it. It's for good payoff. It's worth it.
I'd put them A-Tier, personally.
Yeah?
Yeah, I agree.
What about these guys?
That's the Mark II clone armor.
Also A-Tier.
Where they got the different helmet, but otherwise it's really the same thing.
All I'm going to say is, even looking at these three,
I cannot tell the difference between these armors.
What? Look at the helmets.
The helmets are different. Yeah.
The helmets are the more...
I can't see the helmets on these ones.
Well, yeah, that's fair.
And these are really small.
Crimson Glory with five bells.
It feels like it'd be a variant.
Thank you, as always, Crimson.
A Red Letter Media Star Wars Episode One is a disappointment since my son. Sheesh.
That's an ouchie, actually.
I love their reviews on Star Wars.
I remember me and my friends went to Jersey to watch the new films when they're going out,
and they were annoyed with my incessant reference to those episodes, me doing the voice like,
Star Wars Episode One is the worst thing since my son.
Yeah, I love those videos. I love those guys. They're so good.
I'm just thinking, should we get some of the other Star Wars stuff done so we don't go too much on a tangent?
Sure.
Is that all the clones we've done?
I think that's all the clones, yeah.
All right, so we've got Stormtroopers. So we've got the original Stormtroopers.
The original Stormtroopers are like beats here, I think.
They're iconic.
Yeah, they are.
Clones are cooler than them, but they still...
They're way cooler than them.
You see it and you go like, that's Stormtrooper. Easy.
The first one, like, at the left is also Star Wars. That one is also Star Wars.
There's a lot of Star Wars here.
Which one is that?
That's a Death Trooper. That's one from Rogue One.
Oh, those are the edgy ones.
Those are the edgy ones. They're like, I'm talking like a...
They have like the... They're just like...
And they're just talking, menacing clicks.
I guess we'll put them there.
Yeah, I think if I called it Power Armor, the Tier List, bit of a misnomer.
A lot of these are not Power Armor.
But they're still cool.
Star Wars Trooper Tier List with G.I.S.S.
Maybe.
A little bit.
Scout Trooper.
I love them.
They're so cool.
They are iconic.
And it's when let's take this and make it less goofy and more practical.
I don't even have a Clone Trooper army, but I bought a Scout Trooper pack because it was the only thing around that I hit with prius money.
The second last MSBG thing.
Hoth Troopers?
Hoth Troopers A tier or S tier. One of the two.
Everything Hoth is just cool.
Yeah, put them next to the other. Yeah, that's fair.
I was like, there's something about the helmet design that's kind of like goofy, but also endearing at the same time.
I look at my big big face piece.
Why is this so long?
I don't know, but it's fun to look at.
I don't know.
He looks like Casper the friendly ghost.
He's warm.
He's cozy.
First Order Stormtrooper D tier.
It's garbage.
So freaking good.
They took what worked about the Stormtrooper helmets and then ruined it.
They suck.
Gosh.
He's got that Wario mustache thing going on there.
I don't like it.
And if you like squint, it looks like Wario's mustache with some sunglasses.
It really does.
Sith Troopers.
They're pretty cool.
I didn't play that game though.
I want to put them above clones, to be honest.
I just love the way they look.
They're shiny.
Like the basic clones.
Yeah, I can agree.
They look really cool.
The shiny metal armor.
And then I accidentally put in droids and droide because who we can put in.
I fucked up here.
Hold on.
These do look pretty neat.
Row below and we'll call it.
Oops.
I hate this thing.
Oopsie.
There we go.
We'll make it gray.
So droideka are fun, but they go in oopsie tier.
Because I put them in the wrong tier list.
Super battle droids, right terrifying in Republic Commando though.
Holy shit.
Yeah, they went from goofy goobers to playing the game when it first came out.
I'm like, I fear for my life.
And I like how in Mandalorian, they kind of captured that a little bit.
Where it was the flashback scene where is it Din Jaro?
He's like running away from him as a kid.
And then opens the manhole and this is this menacing piece of metal covered in blood.
Oh, yeah, they're supposed to be like actually war crime levels of mechanical robots.
You guys aren't going to believe it.
I haven't seen the Mandalorian.
Yeah, I always saw a couple episodes too.
And I watched the first episode and went, damn, that's really good.
I should watch more.
If you get around to it, there's just a cool flashback and they're in it.
And it captures that clone Republic Commando's vibe where they're just like the killing of towns.
A killing of town full of people.
And it's like, oh, yeah, they're not goofy robots like in the prequels where they go, oh, they're like, no, they kill people.
Oh, yeah.
Also, there's some weird stuff like that.
Was it the the second series of Mandalorian?
It has the what were they called?
Oh, it has HK 47 robots in it.
Oh, dude, I love HK.
Yeah, but it's obviously like a derivative.
But some of those are in.
You're like, I like that.
They're taking stuff from the expanded universe and casting it.
The Star Wars D&D character based on HK.
Very cool.
Meatbags.
We nicknamed him hostage blender.
Flourish.
Odds.
I put him above the sith troopers, honestly.
OK.
But not above Fallout.
I put him above Fallout personally, but that's because I'm not a big Fallout guy.
That's fair.
So it's my own fault.
Isaac, his suit.
My boy.
Space guy.
I love him.
Cool as hell.
He's cool.
It isn't like.
I love him.
Insane, but.
I don't think it's.
I don't think it's as iconic.
It's kind of just a helmet and like a backpack.
I mean, yeah, but like that helmet, it's like you could show someone that and they instantly
go, oh, that's space.
That's true.
It is immediately mostly the helmet, but that helmet goes so hard.
It's a bit of a shame that the Dead Space 2 variant isn't on the list because that's
also like a cool design where it's a bit more futuristic.
This is all this is all like I I'm like a plumber and I'm here to get rid of all the
like necrotic flesh from your pipes.
To be fair, that's what it's supposed to be.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
But that's the point.
But then two comes around.
It's like, oh, I need like a military grade suit that like properly does it.
And then after three, you start off playing as a soldier who dies in the first few minutes
and you get like a soldier variant.
And even in Dead Space 1, you get invaded by a bunch of like military guys and they're
wearing the soldier versions.
Oh, that's cool.
There's like variants.
But I want to I want to put him above him.
I can't.
Can I?
I have to put him here, surely.
It's up to you, buddy, because as much as I love it more than the fall out, man, I think
he's more crisis nano suit armor.
Yeah, that's a good one. I yeah, I've always wanted to get that and I've never gotten to it
I didn't forget I was gonna put it on but I've never played crisis and I don't I didn't feel at all
Passionate about it. I still put it on because I heard a lot of people say it's cool. I just it does look really cool
it's just I
We're going where would we where would we honorably put the crisis? I put him in a tear down here
It's gonna be an a he was about crisis. He's in a lot of gamer montages back in the day
Yeah, I know the crisis one used to be like the benchmark testing for if you had a good gaming. Yeah
Yeah, do you want to melt your PC?
I find out if it's good enough
But I played it way later on the Xbox one when it was like
Cross-compatible with older games and I haven't played two and three but I did play the first one
And it was enjoyable and I like how the suit has all these things like it can make you jump and land from super heights
It can make you go invisible. It can do all sorts of like sprinty stuff and strength stuff. Like you can rip turrets off there
They're mounts. It's just a really good suit
Stories bit meh, but again, it's a game about punching people in a mech in a nano suit. So yeah, it's not gonna have like
crazy good story
It's Master Chef. It's to you baby. I'll be an S
That's Spartan armor s-tier
Are we gonna put him above clone? I would
Yeah, yes, I think it's space marine should be at the bottom of s-tier
Honestly probably about scale trooper if I'm being honest, I just think always a trooper school
Scout troopers cool, but he's doing his best but he's got to be careful
They beat him over the head with sticks like that arm is not doing you any favors
So these I from it is just less
Hair and armor from space marine or it's me. Yeah, all right, I'm gonna say about that
Starcraft did not rip off warhammer. They know of starship troopers
I know a lot of people say that but I didn't with the chat
The Blizzard was going to make a warhammer fantasy game with
GW but GW wasn't that interested in computer gaming because this was in like the 90s and at the time
Computer gaming was nothing like what it was like consoles were pretty far outpacing it
And if I remember correctly like RTS was still pretty like in its infancy as a genre
But uh, so with that they just kind of both parted ways and they both collectively ripped off the same things for the
For the Terran space armor, so they did GW did not no one ripped each other off
They ripped off different IPs for Starcraft. I really don't like the design though. I gotta be honest. It's too round
It's kind of silly. Yeah, it is very bubbly. Although I think in universe
That's because it's more of an environmental protection suit than armor. Yeah, cuz like the Terran Marines are as much like a
first line of defense slash police force as they are a
military
Like they're they're like the bottom of the barrel of society given weapons and told
Although we did have a comment
I
Was it from glass laughter Colin not putting the NCR Ranger armor LT list. Yeah
I did forget to do that. Do we want to do it as another honorable one? I would put that in S tier. Yeah
I love that so cool. Yeah
Especially that that scene from the opening ways out the sniper rifle on the Vegas strippers. Oh, yeah, so good
Titan for man. Oh tight pilot
I put him a solid be I put I put him behind the Mandalorians
Yeah, it's just kind of like fatigues and helmet. Yeah, I mean it's cool
It does its job. Obviously the Titans are what you know grabs the attention, but the pilot armor is pretty cool
I wish I had the the pilot helmet you could get with a limited
Time for two I need to one day see if I can find that somewhere though. It probably costs like a
5000 I want that
Oh G Terminator Oh
chunky boy I
People say this looks unironically cool and I completely disagree
But I love it because of how stupid it looks. Yeah. Yeah, like was that angels of death?
It was some animation. I remember it was official or no death of hope
It was death of home where that chunky guys walk in and I'm like and this the camera shakes. Yeah, I'm like I listen
This is the goofiest thing and I love it. I think we're looking at this
I think you're looking at it from the opposite angle and I think it's the wrong angle. Hmm
Like I don't think that thing is actually cool and imposing. I think it looks goofy
Yeah, but I love the reason I've you seen the artwork
Some people have made recently where like they've made it so the shoulders kind of drop down as like a kind of like a riot shield
So they can shoot while being in cover. I was like that's an interesting way to actually is pretty cool
I've seen I've seen one recently was like, oh, that's like a fun spin on it, but I was also like
In the image it's like the size of his torso and I'm like, yeah, okay
I mean a bit goofy at the same time
Give it like see
Yeah, okay. I think every other space looks so much better. Yeah
Um, the glass is just the guard. There's a guard's army uniform
BT right starship troopers. Sion Sion obvious, but
Regular I wanted to put in a lot of like a lot of the guard stuff
But the more I was thinking about it like Krieg is just World War one the outfit
Katakan is
Just Rambo. Yeah. Yeah, although McCabe and Janissaries
That's true. Yes here and like the first board and stuff. Yeah
Oh, destroy and start to destroy and go hard
You know, I will admit there's a lot I could add to this
I was making it at the same time as the Star Wars trooper one, which is again why the droidica and super
Why the droidica and super
Freak again with two dollars. Thank you dread and Robocop armor. Uh, those do exist
It's really armor that's kind of just as
Dreadnought dreadknots are s tier though. I don't know if you if I count I mean
Even even if Robocop's armor isn't armor with his limbs. It's definitely armoring his like
Remaining organs and face so like his eyes is hard. I've seen that
I mean, I've I've not watched the Robocop remake remake because it's probably terrible
But there's a there's a scene I've seen where it's like
He's on the slab and he's like I need to see what's left of me
And it slowly peels away all his limbs until he's just like some lungs and some organs in his face
That's such a cool scene
But yeah, as far as iconicness, I think the Judge Dread armor is cool
But it is also a case of like if you take away the helmet and the like eagle pauldron. It's just like
Not quite fatigues, but it's just like oh, it's just riot gear
It's it's embellished but it's at the end of the day still just oh i'm wearing
this
Uh spitting that I will say I will I will take credit
There's a lot of things I probably could have should have added to the tier list, but that's okay
I kind of wanted to avoid bloat and it being three years long
Like our bds armor is awesome, but how many people actually give a shit about the arbeady?
They're cool
I did a video on them recently and it seemed to do fine
But again, I think that's just a case of
I think the case is though that it was just one of those things where people like oh these guys no one talks about these guys
And so it did quite well
um
And that's their their thing where it's like, oh they're kind of obscure but not really because they've been around forever
But there's just no new books or lore or anything to talk about they just they just exist
Which is a bit of a shame
Um, but otherwise, I guess that's all of our tier list done. That was fun
Even though we've angered at least 70 of our audience. That was angry to listen to the chat
It is not my fault that chat has horrible opinions about the halo weapons. All right
Listen, oh it tough times. Thank you for still watching our videos chat
Thanks for putting up with our apparently terrible takes
Buster versus dreadnought. I mean, I don't know iron man's pretty pretty cool armor
Hulk buster's kind of goofy
Yeah
Looks like a big egg
I mean it can fly so it'd probably beat the dreadnought for that reason alone flying pile driver on top of it. Yeah
Um, well, otherwise, I suppose that's that's it for us today, uh would would we like to
Round off this uh live stream with any more
Closing thoughts or anything? Uh
I hope
This will stop people from putting let colin talk about halo lore for at least a few weeks and make endless space lord the new thing
Please
You heard it here first, yes
Well, if there's nothing else, I think I think that's everything yeah. Yep. Well, thanks everyone for joining us today
Um, we will be returning next week with the iceberg effect. I believe where we will be talking about
The beetle daddy himself bella sorrious call should be a bit of fun. Hopefully i'll be a bit less ill so that'd be good
and how should be back from his
Trip to was it switzerland? He was in looks like i'm skiing I assume
Oh skiing good
Going out and exploring the world and having fun outside of the internet. We're getting fanatical comments. We better in the stream soon
And yeah, once you gotta go inside shit. Oh, I almost killed a little kid the last time I went skiing. It was pretty bad
Wasn't related to the skiing at all. You just like I ran into him going going mach 10
Down a hill and his helmet was off and he was bleeding and oh and his mom yelled at me
It was really bad. This was like when I was like five years ago
Five years ago and I haven't gone skiing since
oh no
Well, imagine going outside. Yes, exactly dj this but yes, uh, thank you all for joining us today and uh,
Have a lovely rest of your week and we'll see you all next week. Take care everyone. I love you long time