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I think we are live though boys.

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Did I say I did?

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DJ Beats says I love when thank all said it's thank all time and thank all over them.

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Thank all all over the setting.

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We appreciate that.

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Oh, I think we're live.

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Yes.

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Yeah, it's working.

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Okay.

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Oh no.

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Yeah, we're live because it just went live and it's echoing in my voice or my ear.

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Should we call it?

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Do you want to give a quick introduction to what we're kind of starting with a tear?

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Oh, first of all, welcome everybody.

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Tear Lists, another one.

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We are Law Crimes.

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Just a little funny goof here.

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We were talking about some Warhammer Tear Lists.

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A few non-Warhammer ones, but this is pretty much going to be unadulterated, crappy, absolutely

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sloppy opinions.

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Garbage.

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It's a garbage take from Warhammer.

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Law Creators, a lot of us here.

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It's obviously me, Hal, Andy, Colin and Eli.

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So we're going to have a little chat through.

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Colin, what are we starting off?

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What glorious topic have we chosen to start this one off with?

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It's something simple.

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I grabbed some highlights, Skaven characters, and we're just going to rank them.

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You can probably get, you know, you can see one of them pretty obviously gets his own

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tear.

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Nice and chunky.

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That's a, we may have been a bit biased already beginning with it.

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It's not biased because he deserves it.

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He does.

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He deserves one win in the history of his existence.

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He gets a win, kind of.

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I will say before we start, I don't really know many of the characters, so I'm just going

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to be here going, Fanquel's cool.

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Listen, DJ Beast, we're not doing an egg tier list, okay?

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Could happen.

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More likely than any of the rap battles.

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I know, like, he deserves his own tier.

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We've got one right here.

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He's right here.

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Shall we just put Fanquel in his own tier?

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Well, maybe Colin, could you explain why Fanquel deserves?

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Yes, it needs to be justified.

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He keeps showing up in Godric and Felix and he's a funny, he's a silly little clown.

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Every time you read about him, it's just wonderful.

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Some of his quotes include such bangers as mentioning the Skaven pastime of shooting

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the messenger, when something went wrong.

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What's the phrase where it's like there's more than one way to do something?

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Skinner, skinner.

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Yeah, well, his was skin and infant.

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There's more than one way to skin and infant, which is, man, what a banger of a line if

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I say so myself.

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Jesus Christ.

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He's funny.

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I think I've heard people say Godric and Felix is like Caiaphas Cain for fantasy.

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No, Fanquel is Caiaphas Cain for fantasy because he keeps accidenting his way into becoming

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more and more powerful.

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He's actually quite the strong wizard, especially on tabletop.

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He will wreck your day if you let him.

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Do we have a repeat, by the way?

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Let's do this chat.

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See, this guy on the second-to-last-

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I think we do have a repeat of Throt.

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Okay.

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That Throt, the clean one.

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Yeah, that made a bit of a goof.

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So which was Fanquel?

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The first one.

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Do you know what it reminds me of?

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He's just fun.

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Has anyone seen the model of someone doing the great clean one and they just like fixed

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up?

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I have.

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It just looks like a fat naked tube.

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Know what it weirdly reminds me of?

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Those bald cats that are just like-

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Scared.

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Yeah, it was scared.

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Really fat ones.

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Oh my gosh.

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Fanquel is in his own tier, by the way, because he is the persona for- is he- was he in Age

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of Sigmar now?

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He's like a-

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That's his Age of Sigmar model.

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I think they call him the Great Lord.

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Is that the prophet of the Great Horned Rat or something?

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He's like chosen.

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I think he's just like the Great Lord and they just know him as this ancient beyond

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all reckoning figure.

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But that doesn't stop him from just colossally messing up still.

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Like in AOS, the Skaven once again did the funny and ruined Nagash's plans.

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Fanquel, meanwhile, for his part in that operation, accidentally flooded all of Skavenblight.

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Because it was a sea in the realm of death that he tunneled into by mistake, the water

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was full of zombies that then attacked Skavenblight.

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As he did.

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Surely it was not his fault.

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It was his underling's fault.

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No, it was incompetent underling sabotage.

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It was never Fanquel's fault.

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No, Fanquel has never done anything wrong.

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Other-

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Go ahead.

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No, go ahead, go ahead.

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Other banging highlights include accidentally summoning Scarbrand and then just kind of

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walking away from the entire affair.

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What's his mount called?

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Bone Ripper.

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How many Bone Rippers has there been?

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I don't think there's ever been confirmed, but I assume that every time he's deployed

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in tabletop and dies, it's just the Bone Ripper that dies and he just runs away.

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So I'd like to think around Bone Ripper like 10 million or something by this point.

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He has had Gottrick and Felix dead to rights so many times.

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He's had them dead to rights one time and then he fucked it up.

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No, no.

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Every time he's so close.

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And then treacherous underlings.

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And then the one time he had them, they didn't know his name and he had a bit of an existential

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crisis over it.

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Oh my god.

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Yeah, I read, is it Elf Spain or-

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Elfslayer, yeah.

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Elfslayer, that's one.

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That was just a good book.

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I remember that he has them locked up in the submarine and he's like, you, Gottrick and

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Felix, you've been thwarting my plans for two decades and you've battled me at every

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turn and they go, who are you?

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And he has an actual full on breakdown where he's almost faint and he goes, oh my god,

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it's been an accident the entire time.

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They've not even tried to get him.

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What is the next one though, Colin?

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The next Skaven, that's Thraught the Unclean.

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Right.

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He seems okay.

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Is he a clan, which clan is he again?

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Clan Molder.

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He's in Warhammer.

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Monster Mash.

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He's the clan Molder.

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They're the monster guys.

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He's very hungry because he ripped out his eye and put Warpstone in it, in the socket.

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And that ex, what's, I'm trying to, I don't know the word for like super, the fancy word

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for massively increased, but it did that to his hunger.

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Skaven are already pretty hungry.

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So pretty much whenever he's not eating, he's mad with hunger.

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He's also like Fabius Bile, levels of mad scientist.

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Oh God.

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As a Skaven.

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He made the Hellpit Abomination, which is just a fun creature to look at.

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It looks like it's just living causes of pain.

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The Skaven like to throw it at things that bother them like blobs of infantry.

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Is he in the DLC versus the Twilight DLC?

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Yeah, that's him.

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So he fights wood elves.

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I don't know if that makes it better for Andy because it's like El Slander.

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He basically-

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Yeah, you can go up a space.

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He's a scientist.

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He murders a lot of elves.

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He gets ATF for the Hellpit Abomination for sure.

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Yeah I'd say that.

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He also, he made the next Skaven character on the list.

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So that's Gorrich.

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That's Gorrich.

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His lore, he was a Norscan Berserker or like a Chaos Lord, except he screwed up real big

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time and Archeon gave him the Clan Molder to just have fun with is basically what he

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said.

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He's like, just go nuts.

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And so Throt took his brain, put it in the body of a red ogre and then gave it all sorts

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of augmentations to the point that he looks like he wandered out of 40k and got lost.

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And it goes hard, the model I can see.

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And now he keeps overshining, like overshadowing Throt to an extent, because he's just really

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good at murder.

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Like he's a blender.

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Maybe that's just above him in A tier then at least.

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It sounds really like cool.

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I will say that.

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He's a creation above him.

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He's still got all his like intelligence, but he's stuck in a rat ogre and the Norscans

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won't take him back.

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So he just kind of accepts, I need to live among the rats now.

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He's not happy with it.

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Actually, thinking back on it, though, Throt probably coming up with the goofy idea of

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like, let's just sew more heads onto it as like the velvet abomination.

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Maybe that's slightly cooler.

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The Night Lord's theory is just like, oh, I'll just stitch this on here.

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You know what it needs?

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It needs an odd number of arms and an odd number of heads.

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Or like an even number of heads.

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A lovely green mouth.

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Though he has got Bane kind of, he reminds me of Bane from Batman with all those tubes

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sticking in him.

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I was born in the dark.

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Tom Hardy is a very different role coming up, clearly in the Warhammer productions.

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The next one, I believe, is this a vermin lord?

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It is.

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Happy late Thanksgiving, by the way, all of our American audience members.

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Happy America, bros.

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Someone said, someone's a bully me into making a understanding.

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You know what?

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It's not as far off as you think, just because I am watching like to see it be, obviously,

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when the old world releases in February, right?

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I believe that's what the date is.

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I think we're all kind of just watching it to see how well it launches, like back into

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sort of relevancy, because thank you for Total War for actually, I guess, making that happen.

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But not, I mean, CA, as a time recording, CA are having a tough time.

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They're doing something.

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Something's goofy going on.

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It never happens.

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So hopefully we'll have to see how well it comes back into sort of relevancy.

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Now the vermin lord, is this the vermin lord, I think?

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Is this all vermin lords?

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Or are we going to say this is the one?

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It's the only named one.

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Well, the only named one that's like unique and has a model.

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Screech vermin king.

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I don't know anything about him.

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I think he slotted him.

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He does fight Volton.

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Who is Sigmar reincarnated.

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So technically he, this is Sigmar slander.

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Is he end times lore?

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He is end time.

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You can even see kind of in the top right of that image, just says Warhammer.

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I knew he was an end times model.

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That's going to bring down a couple points.

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He is, I mean, I believe he ends up getting Volton killed.

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Does he cut his head off?

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Yeah, I think he kills steals it from Archeon.

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I mean, very fitting.

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I mean, end times a few pegs.

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Yeah.

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I think the model is cool though.

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The model is cool.

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The model is beautiful.

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But aside from that, he sure is a skaven.

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Like that's all he's got.

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BT is a great place for him.

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Yeah.

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He's not as much like cunning slash backstabbing.

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It's more like just big beast.

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You know, scary on the table.

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The next one though, immediate estic, I know who this boy is.

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This guy here, do you want to explain who Skrulk is for our blessed viewers?

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He's gross.

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He's disgusting.

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Looking at him is unpleasant.

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Speeing around him can cause you to melt into his puddle of soup.

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He sucks.

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I don't like him.

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He says suck.

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He's actually quite like, especially in terms of war, he's like good though.

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I like the seats here.

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I'm going to be honest, a lot of why I don't like him is because his name sounds like it

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sounds like you're Skrulk, like your balls.

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Like dude, he hit me in the Skrulk.

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Oh, thank you.

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Bok, Bok in the chat, people.

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Thank you for Bok.

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We almost forgot about that.

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I've never been a pestilence guy either.

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Plague monks are pretty bad on the tabletop.

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Total War seems to think they're good with their stats and then I deploy them and they

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just kind of melt the moment I stop looking at them.

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Probably collects warhammer, someone says.

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I think the best I can give him is maybe move him up to the bottom of B tier and that's

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only because he managed to kill Krokgar's dinosaur mount.

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Oh no, put him back in C tier, never mind.

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I'm not saying that, I'm just saying that gives them a little bit of oomph behind him.

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He killed Grimlock, he killed one of the DinoBots.

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I think NeonLFGraves asks, he says Colin, have you finished the Realm Slayer audio drama

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and what did you think about the final fight?

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I haven't yet, but I know who was facing off against who in it.

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Obviously Godric's in it, spoiler, it's Thankel again.

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I haven't finished it yet, so I need to get on that.

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I picked up the Warlord of Eight Peaks omnibus, which is Skarsnik, Belagar and Kweek Breadmaker.

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Breadmaker is not his real thing.

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We are talking about Godric and Felix soon though, so be ready people for catching that

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one.

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Indeed.

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Next one, I don't know if I recognize that one.

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So I wanted to get a couple Skaven characters that weren't just the legendary lords from

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Total War and Thankel, so I had to do some digging.

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I also had to really get creative because some of these guys didn't have images and

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I think one of them used the same picture of the same Stormvermin between two of them.

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So that guy is Nodwell, he's Kweek's trainer, I guess, is Master.

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Let's go with Master.

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He's one of the only Skaven to appreciate another Skaven, that being Kweek.

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We trained him to be a little murder machine.

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When I searched up images of him, that was the best I could get.

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Is this the guy who Kweek thinks is weird because he's loyal, which is a trait Skaven

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don't have?

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No, that's that black and white picture of a Stormvermin next to the tank.

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Okay, we'll save it for that.

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Nodwell, I mean, he's relatively kind by Skaven standards in that he didn't just throw Kweek

301
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at something that would kill him.

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Or eat him.

303
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Or eat him, that's already huge by Skaven society standards.

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I don't know, I give him B tier, I don't know too much about him.

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He gave us Kweek head taker, so he can't be in C tier.

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Doesn't he die in Kweek's lore?

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I think someone said, but what about Skabus?

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Skabus from Harry Potter?

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Not Skabus from Harry Potter, Skabicus.

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I don't know who Skabus from Harry Potter is.

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He's the rat.

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He's like the...

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I'm not Ron's rat.

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I've not watched Harry Potter.

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Ron Weasley's rat, who's actually like a 48 year old man.

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And I'm not even joking.

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I've only watched the first one.

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I did read all the books when I was a kid, but I've only seen the first one.

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Oh, Skabus.

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Yeah, Skabus is the rat.

321
00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:27,040
And it's Prisoner of Azkaban, you know, like he turns into a dude.

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No, he was a dude the entire time, he didn't turn into a dude.

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I thought that was...

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What's his face?

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Sirius?

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Peter Pettigrew.

327
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No, Sirius Black is the werewolf guy, I think.

328
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He's the wolf.

329
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And then Professor Lupin's the werewolf.

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This is enough.

331
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Not Harry Potter.

332
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I'm not into Harry Potter anymore.

333
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I'm no longer 14.

334
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I was just staring into the distance while you guys were talking for the last few minutes.

335
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Is this like Tretch?

336
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That is Tretch.

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Name is Tretch Craven Tale.

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Tretch isn't treacherous.

339
00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,600
Craven isn't coward.

340
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Big fan of this guy.

341
00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:06,600
He's real lucky, right?

342
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A-tier.

343
00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:12,440
Yeah, his lore is that he keeps like kind of lucking his way to success.

344
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Like every time he would go on a mission, every Skaven but him would get killed.

345
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Partly because, you know, maybe he sped that along a little bit.

346
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He might have had something to do with it, but sometimes he'd just get lucky.

347
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Unfortunately, in Total War, he's kind of ass.

348
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In fact, he's mega ass.

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The new sequel to Megamind.

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He gets bonuses when you break a treaty, which is good for the two seconds that, you know,

351
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you do it and then no one wants to ever make a treaty with you again.

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In combat, he gets bonuses when he's losing, which puts him in this really fun cycle of

353
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getting his ass kicked, getting bonuses to handle that.

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And then he starts winning.

355
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So the bonuses go away.

356
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That's truly a-tier.

357
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That's proper Skaven.

358
00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,960
It's very fitting to being a Skaven with that.

359
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He also starts with the Doom Wheel in his army.

360
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So, you know, that's something.

361
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He may suck, but he gets that, which early game will stop anything.

362
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We have five dollars from Stephen Cooper.

363
00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,520
Like this Harry Potter talk, I hear the Inquisition coming.

364
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Thank you, sir.

365
00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:19,520
Thank you, Stephen.

366
00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,520
I'll report my local Harry Potter enthusiast to the Inquisition.

367
00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:26,240
I just want to one Saika into the Harry Potter universe and see what happens.

368
00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,200
How many deaths?

369
00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,400
It's Harry Potter, but Nurgle exists.

370
00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,000
Did Tresh get reworked, says this guy.

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Did Tresh get reworked, Colin, do you know?

372
00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:40,160
I think he got reworked into... they gave him some more buffs.

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He's slightly less terrible, but there's still like, Throt and Ickit Claw and anyone else

374
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to pick from.

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I think the best I can say for him is that with his starting position, he fights dark

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elves, which is compared to everyone else.

377
00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,280
Like, Kweet gets to start next to Scarbrand.

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Oh, God.

379
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Ickit Claw is in the middle of Skaven Blight, which is good for a starting position.

380
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Then you try and expand and the wood elves politely tell you where you can stuff it.

381
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I only tangentially know what you're talking about, but I just like the idea of the meme

382
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of him starting off and then with Scarbrand, it's like, me, the guy the wood elves tell

383
00:19:23,360 --> 00:19:26,360
you not to worry about, it just starts.

384
00:19:26,360 --> 00:19:31,440
Speaking of Kweeke, bread maker, S-tier easily.

385
00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:32,440
Easy.

386
00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:33,440
S-tier, easy.

387
00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,160
He's a good quality for me, honestly.

388
00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,160
Samurai Rat Man, as I know him.

389
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,080
He has weapons he calls Dwarf Gouger.

390
00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,120
You can guess what he does with them.

391
00:19:43,120 --> 00:19:49,600
He tells how to take advantage of the stock market and then just price gouge it.

392
00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,000
That's definitely what he does.

393
00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,880
He was the big star of the big short film.

394
00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:53,880
I've seen that film.

395
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:54,880
Probably not Colin.

396
00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:55,880
I haven't seen that one.

397
00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:56,880
I know of it.

398
00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:57,880
It's a good film.

399
00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:58,880
I've not watched it.

400
00:19:58,880 --> 00:19:59,880
It's a good film.

401
00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:00,880
Isn't he mad?

402
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:01,880
He is.

403
00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,880
He talks to the skulls.

404
00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:05,880
He's courageous.

405
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:06,880
He's brave.

406
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,720
He's an honorable warrior.

407
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,560
They give him advice and talk to him.

408
00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:15,400
Some of them actually put him down and he uses that as reverse motivation or something.

409
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,000
You're like, no, I am good enough, that kind of thing.

410
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,480
I don't know.

411
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,280
Like a no man for him.

412
00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:25,760
He's a top tier powerful character in fantasy, though.

413
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:26,760
He is.

414
00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:31,320
He kills Belgar Iron Hammer, a dwarf character.

415
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:32,320
He's sad.

416
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:38,280
He took over Kerrek Eight Peaks, Warhammer fantasy, Stalingrad, immediately died to

417
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:42,520
Thorgrim, but I think he deserved it.

418
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,640
I think there's nothing weird about his tactics, isn't there?

419
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:52,400
He actually will fight at the front and will not.

420
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,880
Clanmoors are the quote unquote braves, where they'll still run away, but it takes them

421
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like two minutes to run instead of immediately.

422
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,600
And they might come back at some point eventually.

423
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:03,600
Yeah.

424
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He was raised by that Nodwell dude to actually fight and be loyal and stuff.

425
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:09,840
So pretty cool guy.

426
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:10,840
Guys, please.

427
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:11,840
By Skaven standards.

428
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,840
No, people are putting the eggs.

429
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,320
It's not egg time.

430
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:16,600
No eggs.

431
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:17,880
No eggs today.

432
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,400
I have one single egg in the fridge right now.

433
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:21,400
No, don't tell them.

434
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:22,400
Why would you do that?

435
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:23,400
Don't tempt him.

436
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,400
You don't need to offer it.

437
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,880
I have to redeem myself because I threw up last time.

438
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:34,520
You can't say you have an egg and then when you're not doing that for no reason, you can't

439
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,960
just go like, I have an egg and then I have to eat it right now.

440
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,320
I have several eggs, but I'm not going to do anything today.

441
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,280
I have to contribute to the eggs for the egg fund.

442
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,920
To that I'll just say nuts.

443
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:47,920
Yum.

444
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:48,920
Nuts.

445
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,280
Can you fill your entire mouth with nuts?

446
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,920
We're not doing food challenges.

447
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,720
Andy has a batch of eggs.

448
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:57,720
I have nine eggs.

449
00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,400
I know exactly how many eggs I have in my mouth.

450
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,400
Oh my God.

451
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:02,400
What's the animals?

452
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,560
What is the next one, Colin?

453
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:06,760
Is that a tank?

454
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,560
The next one is a character named Clom and Cast.

455
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,040
There's nothing special about him.

456
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:15,200
He's not known or he is a character in any way, but he has a steam tank he stole and

457
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,200
he rides around in.

458
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Is he in Dr. and Felix?

459
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:19,560
I don't think he is.

460
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,800
They're just a random one.

461
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:22,800
Just for the tank.

462
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:23,800
He's from a scenario.

463
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,120
He's got a tank that he put treads on instead of wheels and there's a dune wheel thing behind

464
00:22:27,120 --> 00:22:28,120
it.

465
00:22:28,120 --> 00:22:29,920
I like the tank.

466
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,280
I'm pro tank.

467
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:38,920
I wanted to bring him up just because I think it's funny escaping Pilfer.

468
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:39,920
That's all he did.

469
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,760
Colin, you got a shout out here.

470
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:48,480
He says, thanks to Colin, I got super into vampire counts and now I refuse to buy grave

471
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lords because F man Fred, bring me back, Vlad.

472
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:53,920
Thank you, Sam.

473
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:54,920
Bring back Vlad.

474
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:55,920
Bring back Vlad.

475
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:56,920
Thank you.

476
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:57,920
Thank you.

477
00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:58,920
Vladdy, daddy.

478
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:03,360
The next one, I think I might have maybe mentioned this guy a little bit, but who is this guy

479
00:23:03,360 --> 00:23:04,360
Colin?

480
00:23:04,360 --> 00:23:07,400
That's Scar Bloodtail, Queek's little helper guy.

481
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:11,920
He is the Skaven who something broke in his brain at birth.

482
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,120
He's just loyal.

483
00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:16,880
He actually will fight Queek, even though he does feel fear.

484
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,840
There's a little passage where he stares down an orc like war boss and the whole time he's

485
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:21,840
like, I don't want to fight it.

486
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:22,840
I don't want to fight it.

487
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:23,840
I don't want to fight it.

488
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:28,960
But he's like, I have to because I'm Queek's top guy.

489
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,680
Queek needs me.

490
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:32,680
I'm that guy, dude.

491
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:33,680
I'm Queek's top guy.

492
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:34,680
That's literally me.

493
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,400
The same hide bit.

494
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,040
Where's Ryan Gosling going then?

495
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,640
He's literally Ryan Gosling.

496
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,640
Next to Queek, surely, because he's brave.

497
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,240
It's just behind Queek.

498
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,160
He also does not die in the end time.

499
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,240
I mean, when the world blows up, he probably does, but maybe he teleported it out with

500
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:56,240
Skaven Blade.

501
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:57,240
Oh, S tier.

502
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,240
I know a part of S tier.

503
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,240
He sounds awesome.

504
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,240
Yeah.

505
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,240
Oh my God.

506
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:04,240
What is the next one?

507
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:05,240
Deathmaster Snitch.

508
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,240
I hate him.

509
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,240
He sucks.

510
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:08,240
Mad Lore.

511
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:09,760
Belongs in C tier.

512
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,640
Should have more lower tiers.

513
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:13,640
He sucks.

514
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:14,640
I hate him.

515
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,160
He killed Lord Grim with complete bullshit.

516
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,160
His campaign sucks.

517
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,160
He killed Lord Grim.

518
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,160
And told him to wear a hammer.

519
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,480
Hey, but his model is cool and he can use a dagger with his tail.

520
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:24,480
There we go.

521
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:25,480
But I hate him.

522
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:26,480
I think he's cool.

523
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,200
He may be an anime man, but he sucks.

524
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,200
And I hate him for what he did to Thorgrim.

525
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,200
Oh, that's F tier lore.

526
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,600
That was probably the ultimate end times.

527
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:42,640
We need everyone to lose, so we're just going to shut off everyone's brains and abilities.

528
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:49,680
For those who don't know, Thorgrim was at this point the incarnate of the Wind of Metal.

529
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:54,360
So he's one of the most powerful magic users on the planet.

530
00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:59,760
Has special rune armor specifically designed to prevent backstabbings.

531
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,480
And is a dwarf, so quite smart, quite studious.

532
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:03,800
Considers every angle.

533
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,600
And the way they kill him was after a battle.

534
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,800
He's retreating through this secret tunnel.

535
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,560
Forgets to close the door behind him and he gets stabbed in the back.

536
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,400
By Deathmaster Snitch.

537
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:14,480
So therefore, he sucks.

538
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:15,480
I hate him.

539
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:16,480
I'm biased.

540
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:17,480
I don't care.

541
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:18,480
Thank you, Jack Dawes.

542
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,280
Triple poop knife indeed.

543
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:21,280
Please.

544
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,080
Has an OG lore crimes meme.

545
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,560
That just makes it extremely...

546
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:26,560
I season one.

547
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:31,080
I dare bring it to your attention, Colin, that someone said screw dwarfs in the chat.

548
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,160
And I don't know how you can...

549
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,160
Bro.

550
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,760
I love the Warhammer fantasy dwarfs.

551
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,240
Not as much as Hellions, but they're my favorite dwarf archetype.

552
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,240
They're great.

553
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,200
Dwarves are just good in any faction.

554
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,200
Any setting.

555
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,200
Yeah, you can't go wrong with dwarfs.

556
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,200
Yeah, they're pretty like reliable.

557
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,640
Lord of the Rings, Warhammer, anything you can think of.

558
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:51,640
Dragon Age.

559
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:52,640
They're always great.

560
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,160
Apart from Leagues of Votan.

561
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:55,480
I'm going to die on that hill.

562
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:56,480
Yeah, that's true.

563
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,480
I don't like them either, Hal.

564
00:25:58,480 --> 00:25:59,480
You're right.

565
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:00,480
You're right.

566
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:01,480
Big wrong.

567
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:02,480
Big wrong.

568
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,360
It gets me properly fired up.

569
00:26:06,360 --> 00:26:10,640
Because of all the things, I don't think anyone went, oh, new army for like, ninth edition.

570
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:11,640
What do you want?

571
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,360
Oh, Emperor's Children maybe?

572
00:26:14,360 --> 00:26:15,360
Dark Mechanicus.

573
00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:16,840
Maybe something like So Cool.

574
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,480
Maybe even Minor Xenos faction.

575
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,360
No, can we have slightly sci-fied up dwarfs?

576
00:26:22,360 --> 00:26:26,920
I think you're out of your mind that you think no one wanted the squats back.

577
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:27,920
As much as all the other things.

578
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:28,920
But they're not even the real squats.

579
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:29,920
They're not even real.

580
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:30,920
Someone says.

581
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:31,920
We got a donation.

582
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:32,920
Thank you.

583
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:33,920
Thank you, Golden Arm.

584
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:34,920
Oh, no.

585
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:35,920
Golden Arm.

586
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,680
He said, how much would be required for the rest of the stream to be in Shikaria Skaven's

587
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:40,680
speak talk?

588
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:41,680
A lot.

589
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:42,680
A lot.

590
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:48,240
We'll say seven thousand seven hundred and seventy seven pounds.

591
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:56,440
By the way, someone says, just because of his name, Nick Swanson, who sounds like Ron

592
00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:02,360
Swanson to me from Parks and Rec, he says AOS dwarves are kind of lame.

593
00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:04,400
I mean, that's actually fair.

594
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:05,400
I wouldn't say so.

595
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,880
Just for the reason like the Godric and the Godric.

596
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,160
It depends on which ones.

597
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:15,800
Because the Fire Slayer's lore is cool, but their models are vastly disappointing.

598
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,120
I'm not going to say their ass.

599
00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:19,200
I am going to say.

600
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,200
I am going to say their ass.

601
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,200
I take it back.

602
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,200
I like the guy with the big X.

603
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,120
It's all of them.

604
00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:26,120
If they.

605
00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:27,120
Yeah, you're right.

606
00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:28,120
It doesn't.

607
00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:31,720
Even if like maybe half of them weren't just mirrored models where they made one half of

608
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,720
a model and then.

609
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:34,720
Yeah.

610
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,840
Reversed it for the other half of the model.

611
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,640
They're like, oh, you're like, pound.

612
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,240
It sounds like Ron Swanson.

613
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,640
Like AOS dwarves are kind of lame.

614
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,940
Anything before Age of Sigmar is great.

615
00:27:45,940 --> 00:27:47,960
Anything after is irrelevant.

616
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:48,960
That's right.

617
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:49,960
That's me.

618
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,840
Dumped computer to trash.

619
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:52,840
Trash, yeah.

620
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,440
It's like people want to.

621
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,440
Bro, listen, people want to squats back.

622
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,480
Yeah, but like why couldn't it have been?

623
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:03,520
Say we also have agents of the Imperium, like the Inquisition staff could have been.

624
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,560
Noise Marine kit, please.

625
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,900
I mean, can I know the noise Marines?

626
00:28:07,900 --> 00:28:10,720
And as someone said earlier, without rocket, you know, without deep rock

627
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:16,100
galactic squalls would be if he didn't exist, you wouldn't like it.

628
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,040
How much would you pay for a noise Marine?

629
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,240
You know, with like the lion had loads of different head models.

630
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,340
What would you pay to have a noise Marine kit where there's like one with a

631
00:28:27,340 --> 00:28:30,240
base, one with a drum kit, one with a microphone and one with a guitar.

632
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,500
You can mix and match what you wanted.

633
00:28:32,500 --> 00:28:35,500
How much would you pay for that?

634
00:28:36,140 --> 00:28:36,800
Is that for you, Eli?

635
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:37,600
He said asking you.

636
00:28:38,380 --> 00:28:42,680
So I was, I was reading epic, cool, awesome Goblin Guy Reels comments

637
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,520
about how he's worried he doesn't miss the epic rap battles.

638
00:28:47,180 --> 00:28:50,360
It would be physically, it would be quite physically impossible to ever

639
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,280
miss the epic rap battles to your list.

640
00:28:53,780 --> 00:28:55,320
So deduce what you can from that.

641
00:28:56,780 --> 00:29:00,400
How much would I pay for a lion Al Johnson?

642
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:05,920
How much would you pay for like a noise Marine, which had like a base version,

643
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,680
a guitar version, one with a drum kit and one with a microphone and some amps.

644
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,160
Like how much, how much would you pay for like that set of just, I can, I

645
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,680
could do what I want with noise Marines.

646
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,480
It's my pay for a slimesh fish face thing.

647
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:18,400
I don't know.

648
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,800
I just want regular noise Marines.

649
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,500
Like the classic noise Marines are awesome.

650
00:29:24,500 --> 00:29:25,740
They're kind of goofy, but that's fine.

651
00:29:25,740 --> 00:29:30,180
Very funny if GW continues to never give the Emperor's children.

652
00:29:31,180 --> 00:29:35,100
They can, they can continue to release one anniversary noise Marine every 20 years.

653
00:29:35,100 --> 00:29:35,900
And so that's my point.

654
00:29:35,900 --> 00:29:36,020
Yeah.

655
00:29:36,020 --> 00:29:37,500
Eventually we'll have a full squad.

656
00:29:37,820 --> 00:29:38,300
I don't know.

657
00:29:38,300 --> 00:29:42,540
They need to have like a new Necromunda-esque game where it's just a band

658
00:29:42,540 --> 00:29:46,000
comprised of noise Marines and all the other models are like roadies and

659
00:29:46,420 --> 00:29:47,700
like lighting tech guys.

660
00:29:47,700 --> 00:29:49,380
And then it's all about making a really good game.

661
00:29:49,380 --> 00:29:52,980
I want the cool Grimdark noise Marines because they, they fit so perfectly into

662
00:29:52,980 --> 00:29:56,020
40K people, but whatever donation.

663
00:29:56,340 --> 00:29:56,580
Yeah.

664
00:29:56,580 --> 00:29:57,140
Go for it Eli.

665
00:29:57,340 --> 00:29:59,020
From Elliot Hopps.

666
00:29:59,220 --> 00:30:00,780
Hey, little crimes is my birthday today.

667
00:30:00,780 --> 00:30:01,580
Happy birthday.

668
00:30:01,580 --> 00:30:02,500
Happy birthday, bro.

669
00:30:02,900 --> 00:30:06,460
I was going to start, I didn't have the army, but then saw the new flesh eaters

670
00:30:06,460 --> 00:30:08,020
reveals and now I'm buying schizo vamps.

671
00:30:08,020 --> 00:30:12,020
I was just thinking about that today about how cool the flesh eater courts are.

672
00:30:12,340 --> 00:30:18,140
After learning like one second of their lore and schizo insane night vampire

673
00:30:18,140 --> 00:30:19,380
guys are so cool.

674
00:30:19,420 --> 00:30:21,900
If I ever played AGC, I would have to buy a new one.

675
00:30:21,900 --> 00:30:24,820
If I ever played AGC, I would play them, but my hidden nights are

676
00:30:25,380 --> 00:30:26,940
I've been gathering dust for a while.

677
00:30:26,980 --> 00:30:29,300
Whoever designed the new Usheren model.

678
00:30:29,300 --> 00:30:31,260
One very good model.

679
00:30:31,260 --> 00:30:32,020
Oh my God.

680
00:30:32,620 --> 00:30:35,020
Oh, that's so monstrous.

681
00:30:35,060 --> 00:30:39,380
So either really loved or really hated the Godric, the grafted fight in Elden

682
00:30:39,380 --> 00:30:39,660
ring.

683
00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:42,140
Oh my God.

684
00:30:42,420 --> 00:30:44,020
We have a good chat.

685
00:30:44,420 --> 00:30:47,980
How about at the end of each tier stream, you add one epic rap battle song into

686
00:30:47,980 --> 00:30:48,700
the tier list.

687
00:30:48,700 --> 00:30:50,980
We can make some progress.

688
00:30:52,860 --> 00:30:56,300
You know, if you were so ravenous, I'm on your side, Chad.

689
00:30:56,300 --> 00:30:57,140
I'm on your side.

690
00:30:57,660 --> 00:31:00,100
What is the next one then Colin?

691
00:31:02,340 --> 00:31:03,060
He's a thank wall.

692
00:31:03,060 --> 00:31:04,500
S tip, S tip, S tip.

693
00:31:04,500 --> 00:31:05,700
Top of S.

694
00:31:05,700 --> 00:31:07,940
There can only be one thank wall in thank walls here.

695
00:31:07,940 --> 00:31:08,540
Yeah, you're right.

696
00:31:08,540 --> 00:31:09,140
I suppose.

697
00:31:09,740 --> 00:31:14,500
For the uninitiated, Colin, who is Ikit Klaw?

698
00:31:14,500 --> 00:31:19,380
Ikit Klaw, he's a clan scryer warlock engineer.

699
00:31:20,780 --> 00:31:22,700
Very smart, very good wizard.

700
00:31:22,700 --> 00:31:23,820
He built doom wheels.

701
00:31:23,820 --> 00:31:27,060
He built a nuke and then he built a cannon that blew up the moon.

702
00:31:28,700 --> 00:31:35,420
I didn't say he's a scaven scientist, so he's vastly insane.

703
00:31:36,460 --> 00:31:37,140
I mean, I don't know.

704
00:31:37,140 --> 00:31:39,260
It's kind of hard to rank the insanity of Skaven.

705
00:31:40,820 --> 00:31:43,420
They're all pretty goddamn insane in their own unique way.

706
00:31:43,420 --> 00:31:48,700
I guess from like just regular grunt to thank wall, whereas he

707
00:31:48,700 --> 00:31:51,100
is closer towards thank all that.

708
00:31:51,100 --> 00:31:55,140
But his also as much as like total war starting in Skaven Blight.

709
00:31:55,140 --> 00:31:58,540
Very thematic and dropping the nukes.

710
00:31:58,540 --> 00:32:02,060
Boy, I think I've watched something that video, the guy who like just

711
00:32:02,060 --> 00:32:04,620
prepped, he prepped so you can know, you can all.

712
00:32:04,620 --> 00:32:06,380
Yeah, but yeah, he'd blow up in a city.

713
00:32:06,380 --> 00:32:07,780
He did it for the entire man.

714
00:32:07,780 --> 00:32:10,020
He nuked every province on the map.

715
00:32:10,620 --> 00:32:12,140
That's insane.

716
00:32:12,140 --> 00:32:14,940
Who is our next?

717
00:32:14,940 --> 00:32:16,380
That is the last one.

718
00:32:16,380 --> 00:32:18,700
I mean, unless you want to give thrott another slot.

719
00:32:18,700 --> 00:32:20,700
He's pretty fat.

720
00:32:20,700 --> 00:32:21,500
He's pretty big.

721
00:32:21,500 --> 00:32:23,580
Slightly bigger thrott.

722
00:32:24,940 --> 00:32:28,620
That is the second greatest Skaven character ever.

723
00:32:28,620 --> 00:32:29,580
He has no many.

724
00:32:29,580 --> 00:32:31,020
He has a paragraph of lore.

725
00:32:31,660 --> 00:32:33,020
His name is Scabicus.

726
00:32:33,740 --> 00:32:37,500
He was a Skaven slave who led a revolt of Skaven slaves.

727
00:32:37,500 --> 00:32:38,220
Oh my God.

728
00:32:38,220 --> 00:32:39,900
To actually make their like.

729
00:32:39,900 --> 00:32:42,220
He was actually just somehow a good rat.

730
00:32:43,100 --> 00:32:48,300
He wanted to give them better living conditions, free them from the Skaven unions.

731
00:32:48,300 --> 00:32:55,980
Yeah, and the Skaven unions kept trying to stop him and somehow they couldn't beat him in battle.

732
00:32:55,980 --> 00:32:59,660
So they told his Skaven slave army that if they pointed out their leader,

733
00:33:01,020 --> 00:33:03,580
they would pardon them all for the rebellion.

734
00:33:03,580 --> 00:33:06,860
And instead of the Spartacus thing where they all go, I am Spartacus,

735
00:33:06,860 --> 00:33:12,700
every single one of them in the union pointed him out and then tore him apart and ate him.

736
00:33:13,900 --> 00:33:16,700
And then the Grey Seers killed and ate all the other Skaven slaves.

737
00:33:16,700 --> 00:33:19,020
In fact, the lore passage ends with the saying,

738
00:33:19,740 --> 00:33:23,180
production was down, but everyone was well fed for the next few weeks.

739
00:33:24,380 --> 00:33:27,660
And for that, I give him S tier, very funny piece of lore.

740
00:33:27,660 --> 00:33:35,580
Yeah, you know, you say like, oh man, GW Rui did like copy someone's homework and then like

741
00:33:35,580 --> 00:33:39,340
in history stuff, that one's really damn on the nose.

742
00:33:39,340 --> 00:33:39,980
That's a bit.

743
00:33:39,980 --> 00:33:45,180
It's really funny though, like in Nudus and 10,000, they're like, it's that guy.

744
00:33:45,180 --> 00:33:47,340
Can we get an F in chat for a Skaven?

745
00:33:47,340 --> 00:33:48,300
Because he died.

746
00:33:48,300 --> 00:33:49,340
He died as he lived.

747
00:33:49,340 --> 00:33:51,020
A hero betraying.

748
00:33:51,020 --> 00:33:52,060
It's got to be FF.

749
00:33:53,420 --> 00:33:53,980
Betrayal.

750
00:33:53,980 --> 00:33:57,100
I do believe that was our opening list boys.

751
00:33:57,100 --> 00:34:01,340
So we've got a little bit, we will do another one in a bit.

752
00:34:03,340 --> 00:34:05,340
We've got another one.

753
00:34:05,340 --> 00:34:06,380
Epic, awesome goblin.

754
00:34:06,380 --> 00:34:10,380
I guess you're describing what's going to happen if the tier list doesn't end.

755
00:34:12,700 --> 00:34:16,300
Next I think we have is Lord of the Rings characters.

756
00:34:16,300 --> 00:34:19,260
This is going to be hard not to just do all this tier, I'm not going to lie.

757
00:34:19,260 --> 00:34:21,420
Yeah, this is a bit, because this is unfortunately well written.

758
00:34:21,420 --> 00:34:24,220
To give you an idea of how many there's a few.

759
00:34:24,220 --> 00:34:27,820
Donation from incoming backup, 15 squiggly lions.

760
00:34:27,820 --> 00:34:28,380
Thank you, sir.

761
00:34:29,180 --> 00:34:33,020
Someone pointed out Iket in AOS became a Storm Rat Eternalist.

762
00:34:33,020 --> 00:34:33,420
Oh yeah.

763
00:34:33,420 --> 00:34:34,540
He has his own Sigmar.

764
00:34:35,500 --> 00:34:38,860
He kidnapped a bunch of Stormcasts and he's trying to recreate them as Skaven.

765
00:34:40,060 --> 00:34:41,260
Oh, that's awesome.

766
00:34:42,940 --> 00:34:43,900
Saj, thank you for the chat.

767
00:34:43,900 --> 00:34:47,580
I think he even said he doesn't remember his name, but he thinks it went Icrit or

768
00:34:47,580 --> 00:34:49,420
something, which is like, man, I wonder who that is.

769
00:34:49,420 --> 00:34:51,660
Is that Tom Bombadil in the bottom?

770
00:34:52,620 --> 00:34:53,500
Who is that?

771
00:34:53,500 --> 00:34:54,380
That must be, yeah.

772
00:34:55,020 --> 00:34:56,140
Yeah, I think so.

773
00:34:56,140 --> 00:34:56,780
That's awesome.

774
00:34:58,540 --> 00:35:00,060
Tom is above S tier.

775
00:35:00,060 --> 00:35:00,300
He's...

776
00:35:01,260 --> 00:35:01,820
Isn't he God?

777
00:35:01,820 --> 00:35:02,700
Tom is master.

778
00:35:03,660 --> 00:35:05,820
He might be the song of a Lúvatar.

779
00:35:06,380 --> 00:35:09,340
Yeah, he's a Lúvatar, right?

780
00:35:09,340 --> 00:35:12,460
He shows up, he kills a wight, he gives Frodo a nice...

781
00:35:12,460 --> 00:35:15,260
The song of a Lúvatar, not a Lúvatar himself.

782
00:35:15,260 --> 00:35:15,760
Oh.

783
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,160
Or was he meant to be like a representation of...

784
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:18,800
What was it?

785
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,000
No one really knows what he is.

786
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,360
It's all just theories, I think.

787
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:29,600
I think it's like Tolkien, like people who are into it and like debated and analyzed it,

788
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:35,600
hate him because he just kind of ends up in the story and brings it to a grinding halt.

789
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,160
Tolkien probably thought, this guy sounds fun.

790
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:42,800
I had no idea of a sketch of like a sketch where you just screen screen yourself dressed

791
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,920
as Tom Bombadil and it's just like all the important scenes.

792
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,920
He's like, hello there, everyone.

793
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,440
I've got me smoking.

794
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:50,960
But it's like, fuck off Tom.

795
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:51,920
Can I just say thank you?

796
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,760
DJ Beat has pointed out, yo, the ring got a character thing.

797
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:56,720
I saw that.

798
00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:57,760
That's awesome, yeah.

799
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,760
The ring is a kind of a character.

800
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,320
It's just like Sauron's will.

801
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,760
It has a mind of its own.

802
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,640
It's mind is that it wants you to go to Sauron.

803
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:07,200
That's it.

804
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:07,700
Yeah.

805
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:09,440
It's an echo.

806
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,160
It's literally an echo of like someone playing telephone.

807
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,360
It doesn't count as a character.

808
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,560
It's the fucking ring.

809
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:24,080
There's a Middle Earth Strategy Battles tournament next weekend and I'm bringing Tom Bombadil.

810
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,880
His rules are all question mark.

811
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,240
His stats are all question mark.

812
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,800
And he has the rule, he has 15 will, which is what you use to cast.

813
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,720
And he has the rule, Tom is master.

814
00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:43,760
That says you can't shoot him, or charge him, or attack him, or cast any powers on him.

815
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:48,640
And every time he charges someone, he automatically wins, but he doesn't make strikes, he just

816
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,720
pushes them back, and then he loses a will.

817
00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:52,560
Why didn't he deliver the ring to Mal?

818
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,320
Because, uh, there's lore on that, actually.

819
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:57,360
There's a lore thing about it.

820
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:58,320
He was busy, he had a picnic.

821
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,280
One of them was like, he would just lose it.

822
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,520
But I think another one was like, even if he was the last one on the Earth, he wouldn't

823
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,240
deliver it, he wouldn't take the ring, or something like that.

824
00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:11,520
I don't know all the lore, but Tom's awesome.

825
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,600
Was it something to do with Gandalf?

826
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:18,240
Or was it like, Gandalf was like, no way, I'm not touching that thing, that will corrupt

827
00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:19,760
me, I don't trust myself.

828
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:24,160
Epic, cool, awesome Goblin Guy says, any character that gets ranked below the ring

829
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,600
should be deleted from fiction.

830
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:32,640
Also, I think it's time for me to make a confession.

831
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,080
Oh, here we go.

832
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,680
I've only seen the first movie.

833
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,680
I have read the books, though.

834
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:38,480
Okay, that's good, then.

835
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:39,200
That's fine.

836
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,240
We'll tell you who these are, though.

837
00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:41,920
Why did they not use the Eagles?

838
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,920
Because the Eagles are the least conspicuous thing imaginable, bro.

839
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,320
They would see them coming from a mile away.

840
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:49,600
Yeah, the Nazgul were just...

841
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,000
Get the anti-aircraft guns, just like, flat cannons.

842
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,000
Just, boom, boom, boom, they're gone.

843
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,920
I have one more complaint about the list itself.

844
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:04,640
How come Scary Bilbo was not his own dear?

845
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,640
Oh, man.

846
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:11,600
God, that's got the crap out of me when I was a kid, though.

847
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,800
Like, properly, I used to have nightmares about those eyes.

848
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,640
Oh, man.

849
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:17,680
Make some noise.

850
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,360
Should we start off with Aragorn, though?

851
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,040
Aragorn is S tier.

852
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:23,840
He's so amazing.

853
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,200
He's such an amazing character.

854
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,520
87 years old and he's looking great.

855
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,520
I don't think anyone dislikes Aragorn.

856
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:30,320
He's pretty...

857
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,520
He's...

858
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:32,320
Yeah.

859
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,400
I mean, just in terms of his writing as well, the character, I mean, you know, the...

860
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:41,440
Spoiler alert, people who have not seen it, the death scene with Boromir is pretty...

861
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:42,400
Oh, I'm bored with him every time, dude.

862
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,000
It's pretty emotional.

863
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,200
My cat and my king.

864
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,400
Oh, my gosh, dude.

865
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:47,440
God, my heart.

866
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:52,720
Can I mention, I've just done my Sarek the Silent King video and I've called one of the

867
00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:55,440
chapters Return of the King because I couldn't resist.

868
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,920
Nice.

869
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:58,420
Of course.

870
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:04,560
And even towards the end, I mean, I was going to say there's another character where he

871
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:04,800
becomes...

872
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:05,680
Was it Elisar?

873
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,280
Is that what he's like his full ascension, you know, his new name when he becomes king.

874
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:10,720
That is a name that I know of.

875
00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:12,800
Spoilers, he becomes king of Gondor.

876
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:14,880
Next one.

877
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:15,380
Arwen.

878
00:39:15,380 --> 00:39:17,120
I like Arwen.

879
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,080
Steve Kyler's daughter from Aerosmith.

880
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,560
She was definitely my like Celebrity Crush's little kid.

881
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,360
Holy moly.

882
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,520
But she takes away a lot of...

883
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,200
Book Arwen is good.

884
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:36,640
Movie Arwen is kind of cringe because she takes away a lot of character moments that

885
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:37,680
other characters have.

886
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,880
It's always ethereal scenes where it's her just going...

887
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,880
She's just lying there dramatically as well.

888
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:44,960
That was okay with young Eli.

889
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,080
But I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be...

890
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:50,960
I don't know if I have the right...

891
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,560
I think it's Glorfindel.

892
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,080
Glorfindel is supposed to be the one helping the Fellowship at the beginning, but they

893
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,960
put in Arwen instead for some reason, which is kind of weird.

894
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,480
I think they might have put him towards the end of the list here as like a representation

895
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:03,120
of him possibly.

896
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,320
I'd give her A tier because she also compliments Aragorn's story.

897
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,440
I'd actually argue B.

898
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,520
I'm only going to argue B just because I think so many of the other characters are going to be

899
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,520
like really high up on the list.

900
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,600
Like I honestly think we might be like... we have to sort of like be really stingent.

901
00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:25,680
I don't know what Colin or Andy, if you guys agree or disagree.

902
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,800
To be honest, I'm like, oh, Arwen's a bit meh.

903
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,160
She's a bit mid for me.

904
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,600
I got to be honest, I don't really remember her much from the books.

905
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:34,320
So like, I mean...

906
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,960
She gets way more screen time in the movies than the books.

907
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,800
So B tier is fine, I guess.

908
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:48,320
Is that next... oh, all right. For a moment, I thought that next one was the orc that ran into the walls.

909
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,840
You're putting Balrog and Ringtear?

910
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:54,480
Ringtear? A tier? A tier? What the heck?

911
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:55,520
A tier, at least.

912
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,000
Is that Balrog?

913
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,040
I'll give him A tier.

914
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,560
Epitome big final D&D boss monster.

915
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:04,720
Yeah, it's only in one film.

916
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:08,080
Hasn't got a great character off there, does he? He's just like, oh, I'm on fire.

917
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,440
Who gives a shit? I doesn't need one.

918
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,640
He's awesome. He's awesome.

919
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:11,840
It's a big demon.

920
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:17,040
Yeah. If Ringtear doesn't actually mean bad, then he can go into Ringtear.

921
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:18,800
I'll accept it.

922
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:19,360
No, Ringtear is...

923
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,200
He's awesome. The Balrog is super cool.

924
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:26,160
The design is... I still remember the end of the bit where he leans over and it screams.

925
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,400
Or like the flames like roar out of it.

926
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:28,960
Yeah, roars.

927
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,080
Oh my god, that's such a...

928
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,120
A flame or not a veil.

929
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:32,000
It's like the most...

930
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:32,560
Nah, I will...

931
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,160
Flame of all good.

932
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,600
It's also like the most impressive, like special effects used it.

933
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,680
Because it still looks really good.

934
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,600
And like the way they used the smoke and everything coming off it to hide that, you know, it was like...

935
00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:44,640
I will say...

936
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:45,680
2000s.

937
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:46,240
Yeah.

938
00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:48,640
I come up with the name of the game, but there was a...

939
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,320
Just after the films, there was... was it Lord of the Rings Middle-earth or something?

940
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,680
We got to play an RPG where you play it as the actual characters moving the plot around

941
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,040
that don't appear in any of the films.

942
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:01,040
But they're always meeting all the characters and you fight the Balrog with Gandalf.

943
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,200
And I was like, wow, that's kind of mid.

944
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,680
Oh, we've already beaten him. I mean, like level 12.

945
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:10,800
I... me and my mate used to play on PS3. I know, PS3.

946
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,320
What is it? Is it one of the Middle-earth games?

947
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:15,120
This was Max Fox's original game.

948
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,840
This is basically the equivalent of like...

949
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,720
Was it Middle-earth Call of Duty in version 1?

950
00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:22,960
By the way, we got a donation from BunnyCop.

951
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:23,680
Thank you.

952
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:29,840
Aragorn, S-tier. The inspiration for Ranger class would still be Beatia in 5E.

953
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:30,320
Fifth edition of TND.

954
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,560
He's got a homebrew stuff, bro. He just got a homebrew stuff.

955
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,320
If we were judging him off the Ranger class, he'd be F-tier.

956
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,080
Oh, come on.

957
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:38,800
It feels bad, man.

958
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,240
Rangers are not fun.

959
00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:40,740
All right.

960
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,600
We got a Ring-tier character coming up. Barleyman Butterbeer.

961
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:46,400
He is the sole reason...

962
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:47,440
I surprise you remember him.

963
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:52,640
It's only because I'm bringing him in my list that also has Tom Bombadil.

964
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,400
I'm going to sell my list right now on stream.

965
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:59,440
I would say in counter-argument, we've put him at the top of S-tier.

966
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:00,720
He is S-tier as well.

967
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:02,720
He's both S-tier and Ring-tier at the same time.

968
00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:03,760
There's a Strider over there.

969
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,200
Oh, I'm a man who owns a...

970
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:06,160
Oh, I forgot about his letter.

971
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,360
If he's above Aragorn...

972
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:08,560
That makes it all...

973
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:09,680
He's not above Aragorn.

974
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,560
Yeah, if he's above Aragorn, people are going to find this.

975
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,160
I want to talk about my list for...

976
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,520
Because he's just a weird, irreverent character.

977
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:16,320
Yeah, I like that.

978
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,920
I want to say my list for the Middle-earth game.

979
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:27,200
It's Aragorn with his big sword that I just forgot right now.

980
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:27,840
Er...

981
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:28,400
Enduro.

982
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:28,800
Enduro.

983
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:29,920
Enduro.

984
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,080
It's him at the end, Rill, and a bow on a horse.

985
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,400
And then it's Boromir on a horse with armor.

986
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:35,680
And then it's Legolas on a horse.

987
00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:39,360
And then I have Barliman Butterbeer with Bill the Pony,

988
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,160
and Tom Bombadil, and Gwaihir the Eagle.

989
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:43,040
And that's my...

990
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,240
The King of Eagles.

991
00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:44,960
Lord of the Rings.

992
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,120
It's a horribly, disgusting, terrible,

993
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,280
make-or-quit-the-game possibly list, but it also...

994
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,760
It also loses the moment I draw an objectives mission, so, you know, it depends.

995
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,400
The next one is Bilbo Baggins.

996
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,800
Bilbo Baggins is S-tier.

997
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,480
This is just Lord of the Rings and not the Hobbit.

998
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:05,200
Oh, our lousy spell.

999
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:06,480
He's just the scream he does.

1000
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:07,520
His birthday.

1001
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,360
And his birthday scene is just so good.

1002
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:11,040
You know what?

1003
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:15,120
I only want to put him in A just because S-tier is...

1004
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,320
Like, it really has to be the actual cream of the crop.

1005
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,240
And I don't believe Bilbo.

1006
00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:21,920
Put him ahead of the Balrog, then.

1007
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:22,420
Yeah.

1008
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:24,080
We're gonna be like...

1009
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,600
Bill the Pony's Bombadil-tier.

1010
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:26,640
Okay, Bombadil-tier.

1011
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,120
Bill the Pony!

1012
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,080
Bill the Pony.

1013
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:30,580
Crucial.

1014
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,920
Is that the one they leave at the gates of Moria?

1015
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,440
Yeah, it's a lot more sad in the books, but I think he still survives in the books as well.

1016
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:39,680
How did they confirm that?

1017
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:40,800
How possibly could they...

1018
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:41,840
I think they come back and he's...

1019
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,360
I'd like to think...

1020
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,320
You know that scene in the third film where there's that really angry guy riding...

1021
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,080
I like to think that that's Bill the Pony, he's like...

1022
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:48,580
He's just like...

1023
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,280
Where he's charging to assault the city.

1024
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,360
He counts as...

1025
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,480
He gives rerolls to hobbits in the board game.

1026
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:57,760
Or the tabletop.

1027
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:58,560
And he can give me...

1028
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,760
He gives you free certain resources back for a second breakfast.

1029
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:03,120
Wow.

1030
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:03,440
I mean...

1031
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:05,280
I'll leave it in Bombadil, then.

1032
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:07,120
I love Bill the Pony.

1033
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,320
Bill the Pony's great.

1034
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:08,960
Boromir.

1035
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,440
He's the best character ever written in all of fantasy.

1036
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:13,760
I mean...

1037
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:16,160
It's just because that...

1038
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,560
Again, he's only in one film, really.

1039
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:19,520
No, he's actually...

1040
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:20,640
He's the beginning...

1041
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:21,680
He's also the beginning of...

1042
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:22,880
Of Two Towers.

1043
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:23,380
Yeah.

1044
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:25,120
Holy moly!

1045
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,480
Crimson Glory, bro.

1046
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:27,120
Bro, please!

1047
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:27,840
Oh my word.

1048
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:28,480
Bro!

1049
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:29,680
Egg, I love you guys.

1050
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,120
Passion for Warhammer 12th and 20th are the best.

1051
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,320
I turned 30 on the 26th, so rip to my joints.

1052
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,040
Also, shout out to ThrowMyPhone, because it's effing...

1053
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,840
With my spelling, might not be able to donate for a while.

1054
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:44,560
Thank you, man.

1055
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:45,760
Thank you, Crimson Glory.

1056
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,440
Just for that, since you said Egg, maybe it'll happen...

1057
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:51,360
It'll happen on stream.

1058
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,680
Just let me get to Lord of the Rings, too.

1059
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:54,640
At least, please, bro.

1060
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,080
Cracking in a glass and drink it.

1061
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,000
Don't eat the shell.

1062
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,000
No, it's gotta be eat the whole thing.

1063
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:00,500
I got water.

1064
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,160
Someone said at the very end of the tier list,

1065
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:06,960
his meat's back on the menu.

1066
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,680
Can that be Bombadil?

1067
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:10,160
Of course.

1068
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,000
I don't think that's even a question.

1069
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:12,500
Thank you.

1070
00:46:12,500 --> 00:46:13,600
The very last one.

1071
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,360
He is... What's his name?

1072
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:16,960
Ogluk? Maybe? No.

1073
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,120
He's a movie character, as well, I think.

1074
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,960
I mean, Ogluk is a very different to Warhammer.

1075
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,960
One of those two names sounds right.

1076
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,000
Really random aside, can I mention something?

1077
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,640
Where I'm from the Channel Islands, there's a beer called Breeder.

1078
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,960
And there's that bit in that scene where the hobbits,

1079
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,400
Merry and Pippin are being moved around and one of the dorks goes,

1080
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,840
we ain't going farther till we've had a breeder.

1081
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,080
And so we're always like there with the beers.

1082
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:44,580
Yeah.

1083
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:47,600
Anyways, Boromir is like...

1084
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,800
I think Boromir is one of the best characters ever.

1085
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,040
I think all men can relate to Boromir.

1086
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:53,680
He's got a good arc.

1087
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,960
He's in one film and he steals the show when he's on.

1088
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,480
He hits rock bottom.

1089
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,200
He calls him a Simba, then he redeems himself.

1090
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,720
He proves himself to still be the fearless, courageous hero on the inside.

1091
00:47:04,720 --> 00:47:07,120
And yeah, he has redemption arc.

1092
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,360
Next one is Aragorn's horse.

1093
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,280
Is that the one who carries him when he's injured in two towers?

1094
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,640
No, he beats here because he does the same thing as Arwen, basically.

1095
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:17,520
Above Arwen, though.

1096
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:18,160
Yeah, he's just...

1097
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,960
No, he's above Arwen.

1098
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:22,720
It's a horse.

1099
00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:23,600
Yeah, I know.

1100
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:24,320
Better than Arwen.

1101
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,080
Oh, king of the...

1102
00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:27,920
Horse of the Elven group.

1103
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:29,120
I can't remember.

1104
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:30,000
He's the king of...

1105
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,280
Galadriel's husband.

1106
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:32,500
Yes.

1107
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,640
I think he's C-tier or ring-tier.

1108
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,240
Yeah, Galadriel's S-tier.

1109
00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:37,280
No, C-tier.

1110
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,280
Because I think he makes one.

1111
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,200
Just because he's part of that iconic part where he's like,

1112
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:44,080
where is Gandalf?

1113
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:45,680
And then it becomes...

1114
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,200
Well, taking Hobbits to Isengard, kind of the whole video.

1115
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,400
The dwarf talks so loudly, we could have shot him in the dark.

1116
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:53,600
No, that's another one.

1117
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:54,560
That's a different guy.

1118
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:55,060
Yeah.

1119
00:47:55,060 --> 00:47:55,560
Shame.

1120
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,440
That was a Sméagol.

1121
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,240
Sméagol when he's before he returns to Gollum.

1122
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:02,720
Sméagol's on his B-tier, I guess.

1123
00:48:02,720 --> 00:48:04,080
Yeah, lowest point of B-tier.

1124
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:05,440
So before he's interesting?

1125
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:06,960
No, actually, that's not Sméagol.

1126
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:07,600
That's his friend.

1127
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,280
Is that his friend?

1128
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:10,720
That's his friend till he smothers him.

1129
00:48:10,720 --> 00:48:11,520
That's the friend Sméagol.

1130
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:12,020
Are you sure?

1131
00:48:12,020 --> 00:48:12,880
He drowses.

1132
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,480
That's the friend who gets Sméagol'd.

1133
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,240
He's just about this high, then.

1134
00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:16,740
Really?

1135
00:48:16,740 --> 00:48:17,840
He's on a boat and that's it.

1136
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:18,160
Isn't he?

1137
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:22,640
He's the one who finds the ring and then Sméagol takes him out because he's like, I want it.

1138
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:22,960
What the hell is that?

1139
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:23,680
Yeah, he doesn't look like any kind of...

1140
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:24,480
Oh, gosh.

1141
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,880
I mean, to be fair, seated because he just gets grotted, essentially, straight away.

1142
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,000
Denethor.

1143
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,600
Denethor's ring-tier, I feel like.

1144
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,320
No, he is an interesting character, though.

1145
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:35,600
Hold on, I've got an idea.

1146
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:36,400
Ring-tier isn't bad.

1147
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:37,600
Ring-tier's not bad, too.

1148
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:38,720
I've got an idea.

1149
00:48:38,720 --> 00:48:40,720
Hold on, we can fix this.

1150
00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:41,600
I like Denethor.

1151
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:48,000
He's a good character.

1152
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:48,720
There we go.

1153
00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:51,600
That is one of the best scenes in films ever.

1154
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:53,440
Yeah, I'm proud of that.

1155
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,760
It's like rent-free in a lot of heads, isn't it?

1156
00:48:59,040 --> 00:48:59,840
Except for Colin.

1157
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:01,120
Except for Colin.

1158
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:01,600
Yeah, he's not...

1159
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:02,640
He's been spared.

1160
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,480
Have you seen that scene at Leeds, Colin?

1161
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:04,960
Which one?

1162
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,560
When Denethor eats a tomato.

1163
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:07,440
It's in the third one.

1164
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:07,840
I've not seen that in a while.

1165
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:14,640
They're charging a fort and they're all about to die and Mary's singing a really sad song

1166
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,400
and he's eating all this food and there's just really visceral close-ups of him eating a

1167
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:20,320
really sloppy tomato.

1168
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:20,880
It's such a good scene.

1169
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:25,920
Yeah, there's a massive tomato sloppy zoom in.

1170
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:30,160
And it's good, though, because he's eating his food like a layabout and then his men

1171
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:34,080
are dying in a hopeless charge and then there's the last bit where they're all about to be

1172
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,760
hit by the arrows and he just crunches the tomato and it runs down his mouth.

1173
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:38,880
And you're like, oh, nice.

1174
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:40,880
Nice symbolism.

1175
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:41,440
Very good.

1176
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:43,680
It's weird as fuck, though.

1177
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:44,800
I was just going to say that.

1178
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,840
Elrond is lore-wise is S-tier.

1179
00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:50,160
Elrond is S-tier in the lore.

1180
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:51,760
In the movies, I feel like he's just A-tier.

1181
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:52,960
He's just a blossom of A.

1182
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,160
The Balrog's more iconic.

1183
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:54,960
I feel like the thing is...

1184
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,240
He shows up at the beginning, though.

1185
00:49:56,240 --> 00:50:00,560
All he does is he tells people what to do and he's like, I was important once, like, cool.

1186
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,080
We cannot trust the realm of the realms to men.

1187
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:05,120
Sad ranking for Elrond.

1188
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:10,080
He sits there and goes, I was there when the courage of men failed and then he conveniently

1189
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:15,680
leaves out the lore before that, which is when the elves cocked it up just as badly.

1190
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,880
Can we not have Elrond below Aragorn's horse?

1191
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:19,680
Can we, please?

1192
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:20,960
I can, that's fair.

1193
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,880
He has to be here.

1194
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:23,380
No.

1195
00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:29,440
Arwen does that thing where she takes out like nine ringwraiths with a lake.

1196
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:30,080
That's pretty cool.

1197
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:30,880
But that wasn't her.

1198
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:31,760
That's not real.

1199
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:32,400
She facilitates it.

1200
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:33,600
That was Corphindal.

1201
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:37,440
She's like the one who's actually there and actually initiates that act.

1202
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:38,960
Force does a lot of carrying.

1203
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:40,720
He just tells people to do stuff.

1204
00:50:40,720 --> 00:50:42,960
He heals Krodo.

1205
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,080
And he brings Andoril to Aragorn.

1206
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:47,120
He does reforge.

1207
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,400
Reforge is Narsil into Undural.

1208
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,760
And also, yeah, he has a lot of funny close-ups in the movie.

1209
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,600
He's kind of just a funny looking guy.

1210
00:50:55,600 --> 00:51:02,400
For my birthday, like five years ago maybe, my friends bought this stuffed pillow elephant

1211
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,400
thing and taped a picture of Elrond to it.

1212
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,920
And they did the same thing with like a bit, it was so weird.

1213
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:08,800
But he's a funny guy.

1214
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,560
That guy's also Viva Vendetta.

1215
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:12,960
Just what a weird...

1216
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:14,800
The egg is traditional at this point, bro.

1217
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,800
I don't want to do an egg every stream.

1218
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,800
The egg shouldn't have been a one-time thing.

1219
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:19,760
More of a one stream.

1220
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,680
Bro, come on.

1221
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:22,800
Don't do this to me.

1222
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,440
The egg will happen because Crimson donated $50.

1223
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:26,160
I did like that.

1224
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:27,920
There was a comment from who said it.

1225
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,800
If you guys donate more though, I'd, you know, that'd feel nice.

1226
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,120
You have to set yourself a minimum for the egg, surely.

1227
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:34,880
Because it can't be a cheap...

1228
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,160
I mean, last time you guys donated like $150 for eggs.

1229
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,240
It was like $200 for the egg.

1230
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:45,200
That is a little bit much for the egg, but I mean, if we made $100 per egg, you know,

1231
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:49,920
that would make me feel a little bit less used.

1232
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,400
Used and abused.

1233
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,640
This is the best way we could sell out possible.

1234
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:57,600
Is this Aomir?

1235
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:58,640
It's Aomir.

1236
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,880
S tier, top of S tier.

1237
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:01,360
He's cool.

1238
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:02,560
I don't think he's S tier.

1239
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:03,520
I think he's top of A.

1240
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:04,160
I think he's A tier.

1241
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:04,720
He's great.

1242
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:07,600
He's just a cool guy.

1243
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,840
Every fight he's right in the thick of it and he's killing everyone.

1244
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,200
He's like, yeah, man.

1245
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:14,640
He's a top of A.

1246
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:15,200
I think he's A.

1247
00:52:16,240 --> 00:52:18,080
He's only really there in like...

1248
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:19,680
He only really has his moments in the movies.

1249
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:20,400
What's his name?

1250
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:21,120
The actor.

1251
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,480
He's in The Boys and he is Judge Dredd and he's all sorts.

1252
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:25,760
I mean, I like the...

1253
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,080
Yeah, this Gronn should be on the list, DJ Peace.

1254
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:29,760
Gronn is S tier for sure.

1255
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,080
Is Gronn not the actual ram?

1256
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:32,800
999.

1257
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,480
I was scared this was going to be an egg donation.

1258
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,040
Thank you, Ludie McShooty for the $10.

1259
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:41,360
Question for Mr. Nowork as the foremost expert in Sword Art Online.

1260
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,760
When are we going to do a lore crime episode for SAO?

1261
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,040
And then Crimson also $5.

1262
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:49,920
Thank you, bro.

1263
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,480
If you're including rings of power, I'll be baby mad.

1264
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:52,980
Also egg.

1265
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:54,720
Egg will be there.

1266
00:52:54,720 --> 00:52:55,680
Egg will be there, bro.

1267
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,680
I have not watched Sword Art Online for the love of God.

1268
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,400
I can't believe that joke that I started.

1269
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:03,440
Why is that still going?

1270
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:04,080
That is like nearly a year old.

1271
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,320
Carl Urban, yes, thank you, people.

1272
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:09,680
No, I cannot be in Cooked Egg.

1273
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:11,680
Top of A is good.

1274
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:14,640
I am the Sam woman.

1275
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:16,640
I think she's S tier.

1276
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:17,440
I really like her.

1277
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:19,360
Eowyn.

1278
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:21,200
She's S tier.

1279
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,120
I would say she's S tier, actually.

1280
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:24,560
Because she kills the Witch King.

1281
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,320
Witch Mary, courage for our friends.

1282
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:28,640
Mary kills the Witch King.

1283
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:29,840
But I mean, it's still worse.

1284
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:30,720
It's still the same difference.

1285
00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:31,440
Whatever.

1286
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:31,920
It's fine.

1287
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:32,560
Faramir.

1288
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:34,240
Faramir is S tier.

1289
00:53:34,240 --> 00:53:34,880
S tier.

1290
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:35,440
Is he, though?

1291
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:36,720
Yeah.

1292
00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:38,160
I think he's top of A.

1293
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,280
I think he's just top of A, just because I don't think he's quite.

1294
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:42,560
I do like him a lot.

1295
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,280
You are Denethor, Hal.

1296
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:45,680
You are.

1297
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:45,760
You are.

1298
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:45,760
You are.

1299
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:45,840
You are.

1300
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:45,840
You are.

1301
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:45,920
You are.

1302
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:46,000
You are.

1303
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:46,080
You are.

1304
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:46,320
You are.

1305
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:46,400
You are.

1306
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:54,800
He's not good enough.

1307
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:55,120
He's not.

1308
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:55,200
He's not.

1309
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:55,280
Faramir.

1310
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:56,080
Have you ever seen that me, though?

1311
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,040
Like him and the guy with the map.

1312
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:57,920
It's just like, where are we?

1313
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:58,720
So we're over here.

1314
00:53:58,720 --> 00:53:58,800
And then.

1315
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,920
Some guys started watching Sword Art Online because of you, Colin.

1316
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:03,360
How can you live with that, dude?

1317
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:04,320
No, I didn't do it.

1318
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:05,440
I did not do that.

1319
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,040
That wasn't me.

1320
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:07,840
I didn't do that.

1321
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,520
I mean, once you've seen it, then you can make fun of it.

1322
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,520
I think this is Farmer Megan.

1323
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,520
No, I think I can make fun of it at any point.

1324
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:16,480
The Hobbits, isn't he?

1325
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,000
When the race is Farmer Megan.

1326
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:18,400
They win?

1327
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,080
There's no one in the books.

1328
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,320
In the books, Farmer Megan is actually S tier.

1329
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:26,160
He stands up to a ring race and just tells him to freaking go away.

1330
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,720
Whereas in the movie, he's like, is that what you're doing?

1331
00:54:28,720 --> 00:54:32,400
If this is only movies, he's C tier, but books, this is S tier.

1332
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:33,760
So I think give him B tier.

1333
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,600
OK, I'm going to say Frodo, by the way.

1334
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,920
Frodo is, for me, lowest, low A.

1335
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:41,360
I think he's.

1336
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,240
He takes the burden of the ring.

1337
00:54:44,240 --> 00:54:44,560
He does.

1338
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:45,600
He endures a lot.

1339
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:46,320
You're right.

1340
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:47,680
As a character, he is.

1341
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:53,680
There's a quite a clearly superior part of the relation, like of the of the duo act.

1342
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:58,080
Yeah, he's got to be like, the guy who's on fire and shows up once.

1343
00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:58,640
I might have a.

1344
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,280
I think he should be top of A tier.

1345
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,000
Yeah, I mean, he does the most leg work and he's got little legs.

1346
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:06,640
It's only funny feet too.

1347
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:10,320
Gladriel.

1348
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,160
Yes, I think Gladriels S tier.

1349
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:12,800
She's weird.

1350
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,400
I don't know.

1351
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:15,120
I don't feel as like.

1352
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:16,160
Gladriels is cool.

1353
00:55:16,720 --> 00:55:20,000
I can't say I feel as drawn to Gladriels like over.

1354
00:55:20,720 --> 00:55:21,840
Yeah, that's a good spot.

1355
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:22,640
Like she's not.

1356
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,200
She's like an entity almost rather than a character.

1357
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:29,200
And again, but she gives she brings Gimli's best line in all of fiction.

1358
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,680
She does, but she just kind of gives everyone a present.

1359
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:32,880
That's all she does.

1360
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,200
I mean, Bilbo gives a gives Frodo a present.

1361
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:36,800
It's like, that's useful.

1362
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,240
But he also has like a story.

1363
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:40,080
I think she's.

1364
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,320
I'm I'm a elf in it.

1365
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:43,280
Oh, wow.

1366
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:43,760
Thank you.

1367
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:45,040
Neon.

1368
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:48,160
LF Grey says Sword Art Online is bad.

1369
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:49,120
Yes, I agree.

1370
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:49,760
I'm not.

1371
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,200
It is actually bad.

1372
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:51,920
It's not terrible.

1373
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:52,800
It's not truly.

1374
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:53,440
Gambling.

1375
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:54,480
How dare gambling.

1376
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:54,880
You're right.

1377
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:55,200
Gambling.

1378
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:59,440
Oh, is this the guy who gets actually crunked by the the wall survives?

1379
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:00,880
He does.

1380
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,360
Or there's another guy who gets crunked by.

1381
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:04,480
He's kind of just there.

1382
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:05,920
I think he's like the banner bearer.

1383
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:07,280
Yeah.

1384
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:08,400
Low low bees.

1385
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:08,960
He gets to be.

1386
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:13,600
He gets to be his name dropped in the Ride for Ruin and the world's ending.

1387
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:14,960
So he gets to be for that, I guess.

1388
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:15,520
Glamoring.

1389
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:19,280
You take your banner down the center or is it the left flank?

1390
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:19,920
One of the two.

1391
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:22,320
He's in the bowels a lot.

1392
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:23,280
And he does the rider.

1393
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,160
Can we just talk about the ride of Rohirrim is still probably one of the greatest scenes

1394
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:27,680
in cinematic history.

1395
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,200
Peter Jackson made some decisions that I might not agree with, but holy crap.

1396
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:32,400
He made some good movies.

1397
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:36,880
When the music kicks in, you're like, oh, the hairs all up.

1398
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,160
They're the memes.

1399
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:38,640
Gandalf.

1400
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,560
Gandalf is top of S tier.

1401
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,000
He's top of S tier.

1402
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,320
He's so awesome.

1403
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,760
Two dollars from Crimson Glow, forgotten weapons tier list.

1404
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:48,240
When?

1405
00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:49,040
That sounds cool.

1406
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:50,240
Thank you, sir.

1407
00:56:52,240 --> 00:56:53,440
I was going to put Gandalf.

1408
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:54,800
Top of S tier.

1409
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,400
I feel like Gandalf should be in Bombadil.

1410
00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:03,120
I would argue for him to go into Bombadil just because so much revolves around Gandalf.

1411
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,560
And he's already like a million years old, so he doesn't really care.

1412
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,240
He doesn't really need any development.

1413
00:57:08,240 --> 00:57:08,740
Yeah.

1414
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:10,720
Gimli's S tier.

1415
00:57:10,720 --> 00:57:12,000
Oh, Gimli's S tier.

1416
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:13,040
Gimli's so awesome.

1417
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:14,080
Below Boromir.

1418
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,240
He has such a beautiful story as well.

1419
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:17,440
Below Boromir.

1420
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:18,000
Oh, man.

1421
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,320
His friendship with Legolas as well.

1422
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,360
He has such amazing creative development.

1423
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,680
Two Towers is his film, by the way.

1424
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:35,360
It is the Gimli show.

1425
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:41,680
And also how every Lord of the Rings meme ends with him with the beer in his beard.

1426
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:48,720
Just him appreciating Legolas in the end is so wonderful, though.

1427
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:49,200
I love him so much.

1428
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,360
Can we put him above Boromir just a bit?

1429
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,120
Dude, he sailed out with the elves at the end.

1430
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:53,600
That was awesome.

1431
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:54,400
Yeah, seriously.

1432
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,800
What do you guys think of that Lord of the Rings anime thing?

1433
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,120
The War of Rohirrim thing.

1434
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,920
I haven't gone to see it yet.

1435
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:08,880
Smeagol destroys the ring.

1436
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:09,600
He gets S tier.

1437
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,800
He has a terrible video game that came out this last year.

1438
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:13,680
We don't think about that.

1439
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:14,560
We don't think about that.

1440
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,400
Smeagol is the hero of our story.

1441
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:16,720
All right.

1442
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:17,680
Now, hang on.

1443
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:21,840
The game was not good, but I will defend it because it was an actual game with passion

1444
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:23,360
and intent behind it.

1445
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:27,840
It sucked, but it wasn't bad in the way modern games are bad now,

1446
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,480
which is they were designed by corporations to eat your money.

1447
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:31,440
The Assassin's Creed.

1448
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:33,920
They made a bad game.

1449
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,840
Anthony Fackenthal taking out the 401k.

1450
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:40,880
Thank you, sir, for the $100.

1451
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:46,080
If you each had the ability to decide what the new faction GW would bring to the tabletop,

1452
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,200
regardless of how obscure the lore may be, what would you pick?

1453
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,480
I think I'd choose the Hrud because they're pretty different from anything else now.

1454
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,080
Anyways, much love, gents.

1455
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:54,320
Thank you.

1456
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:55,200
Thank you so much.

1457
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:56,080
I see you.

1458
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:56,480
Thank you.

1459
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,280
Eli, do you want to go first?

1460
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,600
Uh, um, new faction.

1461
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:03,360
New faction.

1462
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,400
Probably one of two Emperor's Children, but that doesn't really count.

1463
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,400
I think I would do, I would just redo the Tao

1464
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:15,600
and give them all of their alien auxiliaries instead of only Crute and Vespid.

1465
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:16,880
I always thought that was really stupid.

1466
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,360
I think the Tao being a conglomerate of species would be pretty cool.

1467
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,600
I think that's what I would do that, but for the Farsight enclaves,

1468
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:30,720
like make that its own army and that could be the, uh, like the Covenant Tao since GW

1469
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,760
clearly does not want to do that with the mainline Tao.

1470
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:34,320
That would be so cool.

1471
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,480
So give Farsight can be like the coalition.

1472
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:37,760
Exodates, yeah.

1473
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:38,640
Exodates too.

1474
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:39,440
Oh, fuck yeah, Exodates too.

1475
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:40,720
Andy, what do you think?

1476
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,360
Uh, I have a joke idea and I have an actual idea.

1477
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:45,600
Oh boy.

1478
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,240
I'll say the base one because I think it's a bit, yeah.

1479
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,280
I'd like to see, you know, like the Horus Heresy series.

1480
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,760
I'd like to see a, uh, a knight-errant faction.

1481
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,800
I think that'd be cool, but it might be a bit limited, but I'd really like to see

1482
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:01,360
just an administratum one and like they have rules about, they just bog you down with like

1483
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,160
paperwork and, and be wrong with you.

1484
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:05,680
And so you're like, I need to roll a dice.

1485
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:09,840
Actually you have to complete file, um, form subsection 71.

1486
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,240
You have to give it five signatures before you're allowed to roll the dice.

1487
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,640
And you have to hand in your opponent a form to fill out.

1488
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:15,120
Exactly.

1489
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:16,480
Time you try to do a shooting phase.

1490
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,320
You have a cliff board and you go, actually.

1491
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:20,560
That would be something.

1492
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,000
Oh my gosh.

1493
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,080
I've got three.

1494
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:27,360
I want to think they either, they might have teased some of it.

1495
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:32,720
I've always thought dark mechanic might be cool, but I obviously just think that it might be

1496
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:34,480
like an allied unit thing for chaos.

1497
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,600
Slightly, but I also think they've hinted at possibly the inquisition.

1498
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:42,000
And obviously Empress children.

1499
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:49,440
I, if I had my like run, like if I had my choice, I'd actually go for somewhat similar to Eli and

1500
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:54,880
Collins answer, but I'd go a lot darker where like the far side enclose and tower pretty, um,

1501
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,640
like more on the good side of Warhammer.

1502
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:03,280
Like they actually a bit more morally, you know, lighter and not as, not as gray as,

1503
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:04,960
or black as another one.

1504
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:10,480
I would go for like a, basically a con like a conglomeration of Xenos, but it's all like the

1505
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,400
evil bastard ones.

1506
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:13,120
Like from all the hoes.

1507
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:19,040
So like, um, what's like the, the, the maggot men ones, um, the crave the ones

1508
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,440
like, which like basically invasive mind ones.

1509
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:27,840
And then, uh, the fraud as well, just because, you know, basically you die by aging like to dust

1510
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:29,440
in front of your Xenos.

1511
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:33,840
I'm just going for like a basic, a dark mirror of the tower where it's like, uh, but that'll

1512
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:39,040
be, cause then they can literally have, um, the models will be crazy because they'd have no limit.

1513
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:42,240
Make it crazy as like, make it age a signal level beauty.

1514
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,160
Um, that'll be it.

1515
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:44,640
I guess.

1516
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,320
Thank you so much to Anthony as well.

1517
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:47,920
Really appreciate that, but thank you.

1518
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,560
And, uh, he's definitely putting our children through college.

1519
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,240
Thank you so much.

1520
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:58,000
Um, the next one is that, oh, that's the one who takes the myth.

1521
01:01:58,000 --> 01:01:59,760
He only takes the myth rule.

1522
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:01,280
Um,

1523
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,880
Oh, I do know that's shake rat and gore bag.

1524
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:05,680
It's gore bag.

1525
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:06,480
That's who it is.

1526
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:07,760
Gore bag.

1527
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,000
Uh, he's really fun in the tabletop.

1528
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:11,280
I give him beats here.

1529
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:17,280
Low, low big because he's barely on it, but now the next one, this one,

1530
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:21,600
this walk, he has one of the hardest lines in the movies.

1531
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:22,400
Low.

1532
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:24,320
He has to go low.

1533
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:24,720
I'll go ahead.

1534
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:25,040
Sorry.

1535
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:25,760
I don't want to interrupt that.

1536
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,320
I was just saying that that line is awesome.

1537
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,200
The age of minutes over the time for the orcas come.

1538
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:37,920
By the way, as much as pre people know this as well, I think, I think, um, Elijah wood stated

1539
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:44,160
this, but he was somewhat based off of the look of a certain director slash producer.

1540
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:44,720
Oh yeah.

1541
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:49,280
I don't know if you say his name just because of, um, YouTube stuff, but

1542
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:53,440
Controversial director, a very, um, one who's possibly in prison.

1543
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,880
So they base his look off of that and they never told anyone.

1544
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,000
Like a certain start Stein.

1545
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,680
And in that video game, the third age, he's so funny.

1546
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,000
That he keeps running away and coming back.

1547
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,160
He's a regular dude in the books.

1548
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:08,960
He's not an orc.

1549
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:09,600
I'm pretty sure.

1550
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:11,040
But he's so cool.

1551
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:12,480
Warm tongue is

1552
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:17,360
I'm not as top of S T not top of S to get him out of there.

1553
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:21,520
I think in the books he'd be top of S tier because he gets shanked to death by heart.

1554
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:22,720
Like they just beat him to death.

1555
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:26,320
Is he STL?

1556
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,000
This is immediately after he kills Sorrow Man, by the way.

1557
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:30,320
Yeah.

1558
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,600
So yeah, he did some cool stuff.

1559
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,600
I guess this is as an entire character.

1560
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:36,240
He is interesting.

1561
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:37,040
To be fair.

1562
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:37,600
Yeah.

1563
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:43,040
Uh, next one is, oh, this is, what about them?

1564
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:44,000
They don't need their legs.

1565
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:46,640
I don't remember his name.

1566
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,240
I mean, to be fair, it is a meme moment, though.

1567
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,320
I think it puts it in Bombadil just because it's meme tier format.

1568
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:56,000
It is.

1569
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:57,760
It's the same as meets back on the menu.

1570
01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:59,920
It's exactly the same as meets back on the menu.

1571
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:02,080
That is the same thing.

1572
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:03,680
That's the meme tier.

1573
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,360
Oh, now this is the elf who's he's actually just a movie

1574
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:08,080
character, isn't he?

1575
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:08,960
Seer Ding, isn't it?

1576
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:10,640
Is that his name?

1577
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,120
I mean, he is pretty cool.

1578
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:14,720
He's not supposed to be there.

1579
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:15,760
He's not supposed to be there.

1580
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:16,880
He's not supposed to be there.

1581
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:18,480
I give him the bottom of B.

1582
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:27,440
The elves kind of take away from what Rohan actually pulled off by themselves at Helm's Steep.

1583
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:29,520
He wasn't supposed to be there.

1584
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:30,320
He just looks cool.

1585
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:32,560
Ah, now the next dude.

1586
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:34,080
This is the guy who gets crunked by a...

1587
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:35,040
Well, that's...

1588
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:36,320
Fog or what?

1589
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:37,040
That's not gambling.

1590
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:38,160
Yeah, he does get crunked though.

1591
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:39,280
He's just some guy, I guess.

1592
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:40,960
He's C tier, bro.

1593
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:41,680
Come on.

1594
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:42,240
C tier, yeah.

1595
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:42,640
He's...

1596
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,600
Oh, no, he does actually let Gandalf keep his staff.

1597
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:47,920
What's the top of C?

1598
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,120
Top of C or bottom of B.

1599
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:52,400
Top of C.

1600
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,080
They need to be more stringent.

1601
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:56,080
Who is this?

1602
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:57,680
Is this like Ophelia?

1603
01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:58,240
Ophelia?

1604
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,200
One of the Sackville Baggins is?

1605
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:01,760
Who is this?

1606
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,200
One of the Baggins or like Hobbits, I think.

1607
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:08,080
Because if you look in the rest of the list, there's a few more Hobbits who are...

1608
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:09,600
I don't know who this is.

1609
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:11,280
I'm gonna guess it's Ophelia...

1610
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,840
Sackville Baggins or whatever.

1611
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:14,400
Bomacy.

1612
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:16,400
Oh, the door man.

1613
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:19,040
Door man, A tier for sure.

1614
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:19,680
Yeah, he gets...

1615
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,160
I mean, he does get actually flattened by a door.

1616
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,800
Bottom of A tier, bottom of A tier.

1617
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:27,760
Calm down.

1618
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:28,640
You know about Bower?

1619
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,320
A true hero of Gondor.

1620
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,040
My man only has two things.

1621
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,280
Legolas is an A tier, I'm not gonna lie.

1622
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:36,560
Legolas is even B tier.

1623
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:38,000
Legolas should be up next to Gimli.

1624
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:39,200
No.

1625
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:39,700
Yes!

1626
01:05:39,700 --> 01:05:40,200
No.

1627
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:40,700
No.

1628
01:05:40,700 --> 01:05:42,000
I think same as Frodo, to be honest.

1629
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:43,200
He doesn't have to have that much.

1630
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:44,560
He just does cool stuff.

1631
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:45,760
He doesn't really have any...

1632
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:46,480
He's above A of A.

1633
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:47,600
I'm debating Frodo.

1634
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,760
I'm still a little bit baby mad.

1635
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,160
Frodo's not in a mom and ill fear of baby range.

1636
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:56,160
I can put him in front of Carl Urban, but he just shoots him.

1637
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:57,040
Legolas is just a cool elf.

1638
01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:59,280
He's already like a thousand years old.

1639
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:01,360
He doesn't really have any character development.

1640
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:02,960
He's there to be Gimli's character development.

1641
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:05,440
He shoots things really well with arrows and he's a bit racist.

1642
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:09,120
He's the last elf you see who's still interested in the world

1643
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:11,360
and gives a shit about anything beyond going away.

1644
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:12,880
True.

1645
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,840
And he ruins the Hobbit film because it's like, why are you here?

1646
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,080
That's not his fault and we're not including the Hobbit.

1647
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:18,800
We've gone over this.

1648
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:22,240
Orlando Bloom gets S tier though.

1649
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:25,440
Alright, also consider we're taking the Hobbits to Isengard.

1650
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:26,960
That was like the first meme ever.

1651
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:27,460
Come on.

1652
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:28,740
True.

1653
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:29,860
True.

1654
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:31,520
Is that Pippin?

1655
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,360
That's Mary.

1656
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:33,860
Yes.

1657
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:38,560
The mouth of Sauron.

1658
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:40,160
It's a cool sign.

1659
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,600
It's the same as honestly, he has a mouth.

1660
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:50,960
Next one, just the next two Hobbits is...

1661
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:55,360
Oh, this is the husband and wife who like he smiles and then she smacks him.

1662
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:56,400
The other Bombadil tier.

1663
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:57,200
Bombadil tier.

1664
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:58,880
That's such a great scene in the Fellowship.

1665
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:01,760
But you've here.

1666
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:03,360
By the way, I think the next one is...

1667
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:04,720
Rosie Cotton.

1668
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:07,040
Sam's wife.

1669
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:09,040
She's a nice lady.

1670
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:10,400
Yeah, she's not in it.

1671
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,840
Is she real life Sam Wise's actor's wife?

1672
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:14,340
No.

1673
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:20,320
I'm sure I've seen a photo recently where it's like the kid they use in that scene is actually his kid.

1674
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:24,720
No, it's Peter Jackson's daughter was one of the young kids in it.

1675
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:27,440
By the way, Sam Wise...

1676
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:28,480
Sam is the best character in all.

1677
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:29,680
Huge, long.

1678
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:33,680
He is the best character in all of Fancy's ever made.

1679
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:34,480
Don't describe him like that.

1680
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:36,480
I don't want to do it as a meme.

1681
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:38,240
No, I don't.

1682
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,520
I think he's rooted enough to not be in the meme.

1683
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:43,920
Who the hell in the chat put what that mouth do?

1684
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,080
I was waiting for them.

1685
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:51,680
We know you're a veteran on the chat.

1686
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:52,240
Please no.

1687
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:55,200
The Sauron sloppy?

1688
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:55,700
No.

1689
01:07:55,700 --> 01:07:56,900
Oh, God.

1690
01:07:56,900 --> 01:07:57,540
This guy.

1691
01:07:57,540 --> 01:08:00,180
That would be the Sauron sloppy.

1692
01:08:00,180 --> 01:08:00,660
Oh my gosh.

1693
01:08:00,660 --> 01:08:01,300
Look at that.

1694
01:08:01,300 --> 01:08:01,860
The Sauron's mouth.

1695
01:08:01,860 --> 01:08:02,900
It's a tiny bacteria.

1696
01:08:03,860 --> 01:08:05,300
He's the mouth of Sauron.

1697
01:08:05,300 --> 01:08:06,500
Anyway, Christopher Lee.

1698
01:08:06,500 --> 01:08:07,000
Sauron.

1699
01:08:07,860 --> 01:08:09,060
Yeah, S.G. for sure.

1700
01:08:09,060 --> 01:08:09,940
You know what?

1701
01:08:09,940 --> 01:08:11,940
It's just below Boromir, I think.

1702
01:08:11,940 --> 01:08:13,060
Yeah, I agree with that.

1703
01:08:13,060 --> 01:08:16,740
Well, I just love that story about how he's being stabbed by worms.

1704
01:08:16,740 --> 01:08:21,540
And it's like on the set going, that's not actually the noise that people make when they're stabbed in the back.

1705
01:08:21,540 --> 01:08:22,500
And Peter Jackson's like, what?

1706
01:08:22,500 --> 01:08:26,500
He's like, no, it's the air escapes your lungs because you're stabbed.

1707
01:08:26,500 --> 01:08:27,620
And so how do you know this?

1708
01:08:27,620 --> 01:08:29,620
Well, I was part of the British Special Forces.

1709
01:08:31,300 --> 01:08:32,100
Oh, Christopher.

1710
01:08:32,100 --> 01:08:32,900
He's awesome.

1711
01:08:32,900 --> 01:08:33,780
He shanked a guy.

1712
01:08:34,340 --> 01:08:37,780
Also that bring me an army worthy of Mordor.

1713
01:08:39,140 --> 01:08:42,020
Bring me an army worthy of Mordor.

1714
01:08:42,020 --> 01:08:43,540
And he was originally going to be Gandalf.

1715
01:08:43,540 --> 01:08:44,580
And then he was like, no.

1716
01:08:44,580 --> 01:08:45,460
He's too old, wasn't he?

1717
01:08:45,460 --> 01:08:46,340
He said he's too old.

1718
01:08:46,340 --> 01:08:48,980
I feel like Bombadil tears a bit crowded for what we're doing.

1719
01:08:48,980 --> 01:08:50,100
Just be Tom Bombadil.

1720
01:08:50,100 --> 01:08:53,860
Yeah, we're going to take the orcs out of Bombadil.

1721
01:08:53,860 --> 01:08:54,660
Bombadil.

1722
01:08:54,660 --> 01:08:56,660
The orcs have no place in Bombadil.

1723
01:08:56,660 --> 01:08:58,260
Bombadil is me.

1724
01:08:58,260 --> 01:08:59,620
The menu work absolutely has.

1725
01:09:00,340 --> 01:09:01,540
Bombadil tear is me.

1726
01:09:01,540 --> 01:09:02,340
Is it really?

1727
01:09:02,340 --> 01:09:02,660
Yeah.

1728
01:09:02,660 --> 01:09:05,220
Is the main thing just isn't on this list.

1729
01:09:05,220 --> 01:09:06,340
Lurch isn't on this list.

1730
01:09:06,340 --> 01:09:07,300
What the heck?

1731
01:09:07,300 --> 01:09:10,340
Raskin wouldn't like a look around this list, but Lurch isn't.

1732
01:09:10,340 --> 01:09:11,460
Lurch kills Bormin.

1733
01:09:11,460 --> 01:09:13,540
Lurch isn't real in the book, to be fair.

1734
01:09:14,340 --> 01:09:15,220
Sauron.

1735
01:09:15,220 --> 01:09:16,340
He's Bombadil tear.

1736
01:09:17,140 --> 01:09:17,620
Is he though?

1737
01:09:17,620 --> 01:09:18,260
He's the bowler.

1738
01:09:18,260 --> 01:09:19,380
Yes, he's Sauron.

1739
01:09:19,380 --> 01:09:20,100
What?

1740
01:09:20,100 --> 01:09:24,740
But unironically, as a character, he's more of an evil force.

1741
01:09:24,740 --> 01:09:26,260
He's not really like an actual ring.

1742
01:09:26,260 --> 01:09:28,020
You don't really know anything about him.

1743
01:09:28,660 --> 01:09:31,220
Same as Bombadil, Bombadil is just the good version of that.

1744
01:09:32,100 --> 01:09:34,900
But he actually has dialogue like Sauron.

1745
01:09:34,900 --> 01:09:37,380
He just basically whispers occasionally.

1746
01:09:37,380 --> 01:09:37,620
Ring.

1747
01:09:38,340 --> 01:09:39,220
Whatever.

1748
01:09:39,220 --> 01:09:40,260
Whatever.

1749
01:09:40,260 --> 01:09:40,500
Fine.

1750
01:09:40,500 --> 01:09:41,620
He can go on ring tear.

1751
01:09:41,620 --> 01:09:43,460
Shadow Facts is A tier.

1752
01:09:43,460 --> 01:09:45,220
Shadow Facts is epic lore, I'm pretty sure.

1753
01:09:45,220 --> 01:09:47,380
It has to go on ring.

1754
01:09:47,380 --> 01:09:53,460
Yeah, I only remember Shadow Facts because of the epic rap battle of history.

1755
01:09:55,140 --> 01:09:57,940
I was like, shadow riddle me this, bitch.

1756
01:09:57,940 --> 01:10:02,180
We should set like a, you know, you can set like a target fund on things,

1757
01:10:02,180 --> 01:10:05,300
like a target fund for epic rap battles on tier list stream.

1758
01:10:05,300 --> 01:10:06,980
Or we'll dress up or something.

1759
01:10:06,980 --> 01:10:07,940
I'm crazy.

1760
01:10:07,940 --> 01:10:12,420
This is Vrasku, Murhur, or one of the other guys that I said.

1761
01:10:12,420 --> 01:10:13,060
Not Lurch.

1762
01:10:13,060 --> 01:10:13,700
It's not Lurch.

1763
01:10:13,700 --> 01:10:15,620
It's the guy with the hand who shoots Bormir.

1764
01:10:15,620 --> 01:10:15,860
Yeah.

1765
01:10:15,860 --> 01:10:17,860
He doesn't not exist in the books.

1766
01:10:17,860 --> 01:10:19,860
This is just a guy.

1767
01:10:19,860 --> 01:10:21,860
He's like, his model's all right.

1768
01:10:21,860 --> 01:10:23,860
He's probably got more to do than this guy.

1769
01:10:23,860 --> 01:10:25,860
So I'll just do that.

1770
01:10:25,860 --> 01:10:27,860
Is that right?

1771
01:10:27,860 --> 01:10:29,860
Poor Rosie Carton in front of him.

1772
01:10:29,860 --> 01:10:33,860
The next one I think is that the monster outside of Moria.

1773
01:10:33,860 --> 01:10:35,860
That's Shelob.

1774
01:10:35,860 --> 01:10:37,860
Oh, the spider.

1775
01:10:37,860 --> 01:10:39,860
Shelob's really cool.

1776
01:10:39,860 --> 01:10:41,860
Shelob's got lore.

1777
01:10:41,860 --> 01:10:43,860
Top of B.

1778
01:10:43,860 --> 01:10:45,860
Shelob's like a lady.

1779
01:10:45,860 --> 01:10:47,860
Shelob deserves bottom of A, if you ask me.

1780
01:10:47,860 --> 01:10:49,860
Yeah, you know what? It's above Dorman.

1781
01:10:49,860 --> 01:10:51,860
I think Shelob deserves A tier.

1782
01:10:51,860 --> 01:10:55,860
Can you explain to me why Shelob becomes a lady in the games?

1783
01:10:55,860 --> 01:10:57,860
That's not real.

1784
01:10:57,860 --> 01:10:59,860
The game isn't canon.

1785
01:10:59,860 --> 01:11:01,860
The game just took some creative liberties.

1786
01:11:01,860 --> 01:11:03,860
I haven't played the game.

1787
01:11:03,860 --> 01:11:07,860
Also, the game says you basically end up making like three rings.

1788
01:11:07,860 --> 01:11:09,860
The candy store.

1789
01:11:09,860 --> 01:11:11,860
You get a ring.

1790
01:11:11,860 --> 01:11:13,860
Ghost King.

1791
01:11:13,860 --> 01:11:15,860
I can't remember his name.

1792
01:11:15,860 --> 01:11:17,860
He's okay, I guess.

1793
01:11:17,860 --> 01:11:19,860
I like Tomato Crunch.

1794
01:11:19,860 --> 01:11:21,860
I would say it's about the same as Shelob.

1795
01:11:21,860 --> 01:11:25,860
It's just like a one kind of note scene thing.

1796
01:11:25,860 --> 01:11:29,860
It makes the movie particularly the last one.

1797
01:11:29,860 --> 01:11:31,860
And the ghosts are cool on the tabletop.

1798
01:11:31,860 --> 01:11:33,860
Tomato Crunch is fine.

1799
01:11:33,860 --> 01:11:35,860
I think this one's like Witch King of Angmar.

1800
01:11:35,860 --> 01:11:37,860
He's so cool.

1801
01:11:37,860 --> 01:11:39,860
He's above.

1802
01:11:39,860 --> 01:11:41,860
He's next to Sauron.

1803
01:11:41,860 --> 01:11:43,860
He's S tier.

1804
01:11:43,860 --> 01:11:45,860
I'm flying to Bryn right now.

1805
01:11:45,860 --> 01:11:47,860
He is S tier.

1806
01:11:47,860 --> 01:11:49,860
He is S tier.

1807
01:11:49,860 --> 01:11:51,860
100%.

1808
01:11:51,860 --> 01:11:53,860
The design, the battles.

1809
01:11:53,860 --> 01:11:55,860
His lore is pretty good too.

1810
01:11:55,860 --> 01:11:57,860
Theoden.

1811
01:11:57,860 --> 01:11:59,860
He's cooler in the books.

1812
01:11:59,860 --> 01:12:01,860
He's like bottom of S tier though.

1813
01:12:01,860 --> 01:12:03,860
He does the whole death charge.

1814
01:12:03,860 --> 01:12:05,860
You know what?

1815
01:12:05,860 --> 01:12:07,860
He's really cool.

1816
01:12:07,860 --> 01:12:09,860
In the movies though.

1817
01:12:09,860 --> 01:12:13,860
He's like, oh I don't want to go help Gondor.

1818
01:12:13,860 --> 01:12:15,860
I don't want to ride the war.

1819
01:12:15,860 --> 01:12:17,860
I'm pretty sure he doesn't do that at all in the books.

1820
01:12:17,860 --> 01:12:19,860
I think he's above Faramir.

1821
01:12:19,860 --> 01:12:21,860
He's above Faramir at least.

1822
01:12:21,860 --> 01:12:23,860
He's not above Aragorn though.

1823
01:12:23,860 --> 01:12:25,860
He's not above the Fellowship.

1824
01:12:25,860 --> 01:12:27,860
He's not above the Fellowship.

1825
01:12:27,860 --> 01:12:29,860
Let's just say that.

1826
01:12:29,860 --> 01:12:31,860
No, we're actually going to fight him.

1827
01:12:31,860 --> 01:12:33,860
He's below Boromir.

1828
01:12:33,860 --> 01:12:35,860
Let me fight my case.

1829
01:12:35,860 --> 01:12:37,860
So it begins bit.

1830
01:12:37,860 --> 01:12:39,860
Those are good lines.

1831
01:12:39,860 --> 01:12:41,860
He does the bit where he says,

1832
01:12:41,860 --> 01:12:43,860
no father should ever have to bury their children.

1833
01:12:43,860 --> 01:12:45,860
They're good.

1834
01:12:45,860 --> 01:12:47,860
But he's not a main character.

1835
01:12:47,860 --> 01:12:49,860
He's great.

1836
01:12:49,860 --> 01:12:51,860
He's not Boromir though.

1837
01:12:51,860 --> 01:12:53,860
No way.

1838
01:12:53,860 --> 01:12:57,860
Boromir is one of the best rated characters ever.

1839
01:12:57,860 --> 01:12:59,860
That's not even unfathomable.

1840
01:12:59,860 --> 01:13:01,860
No, no.

1841
01:13:01,860 --> 01:13:03,860
That is actually the worst take.

1842
01:13:03,860 --> 01:13:05,860
Oh my gosh.

1843
01:13:05,860 --> 01:13:07,860
Bro, please.

1844
01:13:07,860 --> 01:13:09,860
He does not have a Saddened Seed.

1845
01:13:09,860 --> 01:13:11,860
He does not.

1846
01:13:11,860 --> 01:13:13,860
No way.

1847
01:13:13,860 --> 01:13:17,860
And then he does that bit where he looks off in the distance as the last prep escapes.

1848
01:13:17,860 --> 01:13:19,860
He dies for nothing.

1849
01:13:19,860 --> 01:13:21,860
Boromir dies defending the two hobbits.

1850
01:13:21,860 --> 01:13:23,860
Taking three freaking arrows to the chest.

1851
01:13:23,860 --> 01:13:25,860
But Boromir above him and then we're fine.

1852
01:13:25,860 --> 01:13:27,860
Theodon just dies.

1853
01:13:27,860 --> 01:13:29,860
He just gets wrecked by the Witch King.

1854
01:13:29,860 --> 01:13:31,860
The next character is Theodon's son.

1855
01:13:31,860 --> 01:13:33,860
That is Theodon's...

1856
01:13:33,860 --> 01:13:35,860
So two rando-orgs.

1857
01:13:35,860 --> 01:13:37,860
Anyway.

1858
01:13:37,860 --> 01:13:41,860
That's Theodon's son who basically has like two minutes of screwing time.

1859
01:13:41,860 --> 01:13:43,860
He's C tier for sure.

1860
01:13:43,860 --> 01:13:45,860
And then Treebeard.

1861
01:13:45,860 --> 01:13:47,860
Treebeard is Bombadil tier.

1862
01:13:47,860 --> 01:13:49,860
The answer is Slow to Anger.

1863
01:13:49,860 --> 01:13:51,860
Slow to Anger.

1864
01:13:51,860 --> 01:13:53,860
Slow to Anger.

1865
01:13:53,860 --> 01:13:55,860
Slow to Anger, quick to listen is a proverb.

1866
01:13:55,860 --> 01:13:57,860
I don't remember it.

1867
01:13:57,860 --> 01:13:59,860
Don't be hasty.

1868
01:13:59,860 --> 01:14:01,860
Don't be hasty.

1869
01:14:01,860 --> 01:14:03,860
I live by that. I live by Treebeard, dude.

1870
01:14:03,860 --> 01:14:11,860
I think DJ Beast pointed out the guy who voices Keller Brimble in the Ringers games is the same guy who does Mimir from God of War.

1871
01:14:11,860 --> 01:14:13,860
I have no idea they're the same person.

1872
01:14:13,860 --> 01:14:17,860
Also Treebeard steals lines from Tom Bombadil in the movie.

1873
01:14:17,860 --> 01:14:19,860
He also still gets his...

1874
01:14:19,860 --> 01:14:21,860
He replaces Bombadil basically.

1875
01:14:21,860 --> 01:14:25,860
Also Jack Dawes made a very good point that it took the Witch King to stop Ferdin.

1876
01:14:25,860 --> 01:14:27,860
Whereas Boromir is like a random orc.

1877
01:14:27,860 --> 01:14:29,860
Boromir is like a random orc.

1878
01:14:29,860 --> 01:14:31,860
I'm not salty.

1879
01:14:31,860 --> 01:14:33,860
Boromir was like 50 random orcs, alright?

1880
01:14:33,860 --> 01:14:35,860
And the Witch King fell beast.

1881
01:14:35,860 --> 01:14:37,860
Ferdin was wailing through hundreds at that battle.

1882
01:14:37,860 --> 01:14:41,860
The Witch King fell beast just like threw his horse over and he just dies.

1883
01:14:41,860 --> 01:14:43,860
And that's it, bro.

1884
01:14:43,860 --> 01:14:45,860
Now he gets clobbered. And he gets crushed by his horse.

1885
01:14:45,860 --> 01:14:47,860
He's like, fuck, oh that's heavy.

1886
01:14:47,860 --> 01:14:51,860
Boromir 1v50s with no backup.

1887
01:14:51,860 --> 01:14:53,860
Theodin's never like by himself.

1888
01:14:53,860 --> 01:14:55,860
And then when he is he dies.

1889
01:14:55,860 --> 01:14:59,860
Theodin is awesome. I really like Theodin.

1890
01:14:59,860 --> 01:15:01,860
But he's not better than Boromir.

1891
01:15:01,860 --> 01:15:03,860
I mean, to be fair, we always just say like...

1892
01:15:03,860 --> 01:15:05,860
Someone who's watching now Lord of the Rings...

1893
01:15:05,860 --> 01:15:09,860
Damn, because obviously it's getting closer to Christmas time as of time recording.

1894
01:15:09,860 --> 01:15:15,860
And I just have to do an entire extended edition, you know, 9 hour go at it again.

1895
01:15:15,860 --> 01:15:17,860
Damn, I really want to watch it.

1896
01:15:17,860 --> 01:15:19,860
Also, on the tabletop...

1897
01:15:19,860 --> 01:15:21,860
You can come over to our watching hall, films and mongo.

1898
01:15:21,860 --> 01:15:25,860
Every tabletop game when I'm playing against Theodin, I always kill him.

1899
01:15:25,860 --> 01:15:27,860
Like I've never seen Theodin survive a game.

1900
01:15:27,860 --> 01:15:29,860
He just dies.

1901
01:15:29,860 --> 01:15:33,860
It's also because he's fight 5 and most of the big scary heroes will fight 6.

1902
01:15:33,860 --> 01:15:37,860
Boromir is fight 6, which is better than fight 5, by the way.

1903
01:15:37,860 --> 01:15:39,860
6 is higher than 5.

1904
01:15:39,860 --> 01:15:41,860
Lord Rimes is half-heater.

1905
01:15:41,860 --> 01:15:43,860
Nothing for accurate information.

1906
01:15:43,860 --> 01:15:47,860
We got 5 European dollars from Angry Homunculus.

1907
01:15:47,860 --> 01:15:51,860
Angry Homunculus, angry senator.

1908
01:15:51,860 --> 01:15:53,860
Oh, also the Boromir voice actor Armstrong in Medi- Oh!

1909
01:15:53,860 --> 01:15:55,860
Well, that's cool.

1910
01:15:55,860 --> 01:15:57,860
No way!

1911
01:15:57,860 --> 01:15:59,860
I'm gonna fuck with this senator.

1912
01:15:59,860 --> 01:16:01,860
All characters with big foreheads.

1913
01:16:01,860 --> 01:16:04,860
I can't tell if he... Thank you, Angry Homunculus.

1914
01:16:04,860 --> 01:16:06,860
Appreciate that. Very much.

1915
01:16:06,860 --> 01:16:10,860
That is, to be fair, that is the Lord of the Rings tier list.

1916
01:16:10,860 --> 01:16:12,860
You got me all riled up in that one, holy moly.

1917
01:16:12,860 --> 01:16:14,860
Still sad Lurz isn't on this list.

1918
01:16:14,860 --> 01:16:20,860
Since I didn't have quite as much to contribute on this one on account of not having seen two of the three movies.

1919
01:16:20,860 --> 01:16:22,860
Please.

1920
01:16:22,860 --> 01:16:26,860
I have even fucking less to contribute here, holy shit.

1921
01:16:26,860 --> 01:16:28,860
No, this is cover art.

1922
01:16:28,860 --> 01:16:30,860
This is a long list, bro.

1923
01:16:30,860 --> 01:16:32,860
We're doing it by...

1924
01:16:32,860 --> 01:16:36,860
We did spend the time ordering them, so they're all in the right order.

1925
01:16:36,860 --> 01:16:38,860
Wow, bless the end.

1926
01:16:38,860 --> 01:16:40,860
We will specify today.

1927
01:16:40,860 --> 01:16:44,860
We're not rating all the Horrors Heresy books, we're gonna set that for another stream.

1928
01:16:44,860 --> 01:16:49,860
But today we'll be rating the cover art for the Horrors Heresy novels.

1929
01:16:49,860 --> 01:16:51,860
Some do go hard, and other...

1930
01:16:51,860 --> 01:16:53,860
I'll go in D tier.

1931
01:16:53,860 --> 01:17:03,860
I'll be honest, I have thought about doing an art project with some artists where we basically just redesign the Horrors Heresy novels,

1932
01:17:03,860 --> 01:17:10,860
and kind of modern, slash, how, you know, a lot of the community, they're really good and talented artists, so...

1933
01:17:10,860 --> 01:17:14,860
I mean, today, I'm not sure how many of this is gonna be S tier, but we'll have to see.

1934
01:17:14,860 --> 01:17:18,860
Can I say something that might be pretty controversial out the gate?

1935
01:17:18,860 --> 01:17:19,860
Okay.

1936
01:17:19,860 --> 01:17:21,860
I hate the Horrors Rising cover.

1937
01:17:21,860 --> 01:17:23,860
I hate how everyone is in that cover.

1938
01:17:23,860 --> 01:17:25,860
They look like Plato.

1939
01:17:25,860 --> 01:17:27,860
They look like Gurp people.

1940
01:17:27,860 --> 01:17:29,860
I like the False Gods one.

1941
01:17:29,860 --> 01:17:31,860
I like the False Gods one, but I don't like the Horrors Rising one.

1942
01:17:31,860 --> 01:17:33,860
I think False Gods is even worse to me.

1943
01:17:33,860 --> 01:17:35,860
False Gods has a nice, like, classic look, though.

1944
01:17:35,860 --> 01:17:39,860
It has, but the composition is like, it's just a bunch of bodies.

1945
01:17:39,860 --> 01:17:41,860
It's kind of nice, though.

1946
01:17:41,860 --> 01:17:45,860
Whereas like Galaxy in Flames, you can see, like, a focal character, you've got a guy with his helmet off.

1947
01:17:45,860 --> 01:17:47,860
Are we able to zoom in any bit more?

1948
01:17:47,860 --> 01:17:49,860
Just like a little bit.

1949
01:17:49,860 --> 01:17:51,860
It might not work.

1950
01:17:51,860 --> 01:17:53,860
It's a bit smushed.

1951
01:17:53,860 --> 01:17:55,860
That's right. I think Galaxy in Flames...

1952
01:17:55,860 --> 01:17:57,860
I like the green.

1953
01:17:57,860 --> 01:18:01,860
It's slightly nicer. I do think it is C to this one, unfortunately.

1954
01:18:01,860 --> 01:18:03,860
Fulgrim deserves better.

1955
01:18:03,860 --> 01:18:05,860
It's definitely better than Horrors Rising.

1956
01:18:05,860 --> 01:18:07,860
I don't know why I... I just hate Horrors Rising's...

1957
01:18:07,860 --> 01:18:09,860
Yeah, no, that is...

1958
01:18:09,860 --> 01:18:11,860
I think False Gods deserves more.

1959
01:18:11,860 --> 01:18:13,860
Fulgrim...

1960
01:18:13,860 --> 01:18:15,860
Fulgrim looks icky. That's not the cover Fulgrim deserves.

1961
01:18:15,860 --> 01:18:17,860
It's just...

1962
01:18:17,860 --> 01:18:19,860
Is he even on the cover?

1963
01:18:19,860 --> 01:18:21,860
Those are just iron hands, bro!

1964
01:18:21,860 --> 01:18:23,860
It's like, Fulgrim's the favorite on the cover!

1965
01:18:23,860 --> 01:18:25,860
There's not a single Emperor's Children in that cover.

1966
01:18:25,860 --> 01:18:27,860
Which is like a Scooby-Doo by Tex.

1967
01:18:27,860 --> 01:18:29,860
Flight of the Eisenstein, though.

1968
01:18:29,860 --> 01:18:31,860
That one is slightly cool.

1969
01:18:31,860 --> 01:18:33,860
We're actually missing half the cover because it does flip around.

1970
01:18:33,860 --> 01:18:35,860
I know the other part of the Flight of the Eisenstein one

1971
01:18:35,860 --> 01:18:37,860
has a Nurgle Demon more like...

1972
01:18:37,860 --> 01:18:39,860
Yeah, that one.

1973
01:18:39,860 --> 01:18:41,860
I think that's Beatis.

1974
01:18:41,860 --> 01:18:43,860
To be fair, the front of the cover is what they're advertising.

1975
01:18:43,860 --> 01:18:45,860
It's the cover of the book.

1976
01:18:45,860 --> 01:18:47,860
It's what they want you to see most, not the back.

1977
01:18:47,860 --> 01:18:49,860
The actual cover doesn't make any sense lore-wise.

1978
01:18:49,860 --> 01:18:51,860
Because that's so lendessious.

1979
01:18:51,860 --> 01:18:55,860
And he's infected with the Rot.

1980
01:18:55,860 --> 01:18:57,860
But he never gets to fight a Greater Demon.

1981
01:18:57,860 --> 01:18:59,860
He just gets possessed by one.

1982
01:18:59,860 --> 01:19:01,860
And it's like, why are the Imperial Fists here?

1983
01:19:01,860 --> 01:19:03,860
It's a weird cover.

1984
01:19:03,860 --> 01:19:05,860
It doesn't make sense lore-wise.

1985
01:19:05,860 --> 01:19:07,860
I think...

1986
01:19:07,860 --> 01:19:09,860
I put Flight of the Eisenstein in B, though.

1987
01:19:09,860 --> 01:19:11,860
It'll be low B.

1988
01:19:11,860 --> 01:19:13,860
But compared to the other ones...

1989
01:19:13,860 --> 01:19:15,860
It looks cool.

1990
01:19:15,860 --> 01:19:17,860
Descent of Angels, I think, is a B tier.

1991
01:19:17,860 --> 01:19:19,860
I like it.

1992
01:19:19,860 --> 01:19:21,860
Descent of Angels is pretty...

1993
01:19:21,860 --> 01:19:23,860
I mean, there are better ones of it.

1994
01:19:23,860 --> 01:19:25,860
They're Dark Angels.

1995
01:19:25,860 --> 01:19:27,860
When we get further on in the whole heresy, the covers do get a lot better, which is nice.

1996
01:19:27,860 --> 01:19:29,860
Maybe a C tier even.

1997
01:19:29,860 --> 01:19:31,860
Yeah, C tier.

1998
01:19:31,860 --> 01:19:33,860
Legion, I think, is A tier.

1999
01:19:33,860 --> 01:19:35,860
Legion is A, just because it's...

2000
01:19:35,860 --> 01:19:37,860
Legion should at least be A tier.

2001
01:19:37,860 --> 01:19:39,860
Compared to the rest of them, yeah.

2002
01:19:39,860 --> 01:19:41,860
That art goes so hard where he's walking down the line of soldiers.

2003
01:19:41,860 --> 01:19:43,860
It looks gigantic, too.

2004
01:19:43,860 --> 01:19:45,860
Almost S tier.

2005
01:19:45,860 --> 01:19:47,860
Almost, to be fair.

2006
01:19:47,860 --> 01:19:51,860
I would vote S tier, but I'm not passionate enough about it to be like, it needs to be S tier.

2007
01:19:51,860 --> 01:19:53,860
I can settle.

2008
01:19:53,860 --> 01:19:55,860
Battle for the Abyss. I've actually not even read...

2009
01:19:55,860 --> 01:19:57,860
I like Recover, but it's just not done well.

2010
01:19:57,860 --> 01:19:59,860
I don't remember very well.

2011
01:19:59,860 --> 01:20:01,860
Because you've got the Thousand Sun, you've got the Ultramarine, you've got the Raven Guard.

2012
01:20:01,860 --> 01:20:03,860
That's a cool idea.

2013
01:20:03,860 --> 01:20:05,860
You know what? Top of C.

2014
01:20:05,860 --> 01:20:07,860
The execution's not great, because the colors are all mixed.

2015
01:20:07,860 --> 01:20:09,860
I can't really see what's going on.

2016
01:20:09,860 --> 01:20:11,860
There's a guy in the way.

2017
01:20:11,860 --> 01:20:13,860
It's just a bit...

2018
01:20:13,860 --> 01:20:15,860
I'm going to be right back.

2019
01:20:15,860 --> 01:20:17,860
I'm going to go get some water and get an egg.

2020
01:20:17,860 --> 01:20:19,860
You get the Thousand Sun before I get back.

2021
01:20:19,860 --> 01:20:21,860
Thousand Sun is D tier.

2022
01:20:21,860 --> 01:20:23,860
Look at that guy's chicken arms, dude. It's freaking ridiculous.

2023
01:20:23,860 --> 01:20:25,860
Oh, dude.

2024
01:20:25,860 --> 01:20:27,860
I hate Magnus' doodle arms.

2025
01:20:27,860 --> 01:20:29,860
I'd also don't like...

2026
01:20:29,860 --> 01:20:31,860
I'm assuming that's Ehrman up front.

2027
01:20:31,860 --> 01:20:33,860
No, it's not him.

2028
01:20:33,860 --> 01:20:35,860
It's a sorcerer.

2029
01:20:35,860 --> 01:20:39,860
He looks how Space Marines would probably look moving their arms up and down.

2030
01:20:39,860 --> 01:20:43,860
Unfortunately, that's very goofy and chunky looking.

2031
01:20:43,860 --> 01:20:47,860
Oh, Crimson Glory is put egg.

2032
01:20:47,860 --> 01:20:51,860
Also, Colin, do you want to read that one out just for the rest of it?

2033
01:20:51,860 --> 01:20:53,860
Sure. Thank you for the 50 bucks, Crimson Glory.

2034
01:20:53,860 --> 01:20:55,860
Thank you, Crimson Glory.

2035
01:20:55,860 --> 01:20:58,860
Egg, Marathi versus Sylvaneth, I'm assuming.

2036
01:20:58,860 --> 01:21:01,860
There's only one true Goth elf mommy. Love you all.

2037
01:21:01,860 --> 01:21:03,860
It's Marathi.

2038
01:21:03,860 --> 01:21:05,860
You degenerates.

2039
01:21:05,860 --> 01:21:07,860
Quite simple.

2040
01:21:07,860 --> 01:21:12,860
Just people who are listening, we are doing the cover arts, not just the books this time, because I'm not going to lie.

2041
01:21:12,860 --> 01:21:14,860
That will take a long time to...

2042
01:21:14,860 --> 01:21:16,860
That will be a full...

2043
01:21:16,860 --> 01:21:18,860
If we were doing the books, I would just be leaving.

2044
01:21:18,860 --> 01:21:20,860
Yeah.

2045
01:21:20,860 --> 01:21:22,860
You would learn which ones to get, though.

2046
01:21:22,860 --> 01:21:26,860
Mechanicum's top of B, I think.

2047
01:21:26,860 --> 01:21:28,860
I put it maybe A.

2048
01:21:28,860 --> 01:21:32,860
Again, it's really simple, but it's got some flair to it.

2049
01:21:32,860 --> 01:21:34,860
It does what it...

2050
01:21:34,860 --> 01:21:36,860
It's like, Mechanicum, look at that guy.

2051
01:21:36,860 --> 01:21:38,860
Look at that weird Gatling gun on his arm.

2052
01:21:38,860 --> 01:21:40,860
Done. You don't have to be too flashy with it.

2053
01:21:40,860 --> 01:21:43,860
Another donation by Chin Big.

2054
01:21:43,860 --> 01:21:45,860
Good name.

2055
01:21:45,860 --> 01:21:53,860
I read Genefather recently, and good God, I knew he was a heretic, but Jesus Christ, the crap that's done in that book is insane.

2056
01:21:53,860 --> 01:21:55,860
Yes, Fabius Bial.

2057
01:21:55,860 --> 01:21:57,860
And then call his meme.

2058
01:21:57,860 --> 01:21:59,860
I don't know why I stopped saying...

2059
01:21:59,860 --> 01:22:02,860
I didn't swear there. I might have had my quota.

2060
01:22:02,860 --> 01:22:04,860
Yes, people playing Egg.

2061
01:22:04,860 --> 01:22:06,860
Flight of the Eggstein.

2062
01:22:06,860 --> 01:22:08,860
Tales of the Heresy.

2063
01:22:08,860 --> 01:22:12,860
I want to give him more minus points because it's an anthology book and it's not actually a proper novel.

2064
01:22:12,860 --> 01:22:14,860
And it makes Angren look weird.

2065
01:22:14,860 --> 01:22:16,860
He just looks like a chunky guy.

2066
01:22:16,860 --> 01:22:18,860
It's below Galaxy in Flames.

2067
01:22:18,860 --> 01:22:20,860
It's legible, but it's not.

2068
01:22:20,860 --> 01:22:22,860
But he kind of looks like a football fan in armor.

2069
01:22:22,860 --> 01:22:24,860
I don't know. Sorry about it.

2070
01:22:24,860 --> 01:22:26,860
He doesn't look right.

2071
01:22:26,860 --> 01:22:28,860
He's a bit wide. He looks short.

2072
01:22:28,860 --> 01:22:30,860
Yeah, I don't like it.

2073
01:22:30,860 --> 01:22:32,860
Fallen Angels.

2074
01:22:32,860 --> 01:22:34,860
It's a little bit hard to kind of tell what's going on.

2075
01:22:34,860 --> 01:22:36,860
It's a bit cluttery.

2076
01:22:36,860 --> 01:22:38,860
But it is... I'd say it's top of C though.

2077
01:22:38,860 --> 01:22:40,860
It's better than this.

2078
01:22:40,860 --> 01:22:42,860
The art is better.

2079
01:22:42,860 --> 01:22:44,860
I put Scent of Angels above Battle.

2080
01:22:44,860 --> 01:22:46,860
Nemesis.

2081
01:22:46,860 --> 01:22:48,860
Nemesis actually is a good cover art.

2082
01:22:48,860 --> 01:22:51,860
This is like the proper, just basically Imperial Assassins.

2083
01:22:51,860 --> 01:22:53,860
I want to put it like here.

2084
01:22:53,860 --> 01:22:56,860
Because it's again, you know what you're getting in for with each of these covers.

2085
01:22:56,860 --> 01:23:02,260
It's a shame the book is not worth the

2086
01:23:02,260 --> 01:23:04,260
Mechanicum should be better though.

2087
01:23:04,260 --> 01:23:06,260
I think Mechanicum 1 is better to be honest.

2088
01:23:06,260 --> 01:23:08,260
But it's just the cover art specifically.

2089
01:23:08,260 --> 01:23:10,260
I think it's better than Nemesis.

2090
01:23:10,260 --> 01:23:12,260
First Heretic, this is S tier.

2091
01:23:12,260 --> 01:23:14,260
Just because it's a Chaos possessed fighting...

2092
01:23:14,260 --> 01:23:17,260
I got a donation by the way from Nick Swanson.

2093
01:23:17,260 --> 01:23:19,260
Sylvaness for World of Warcraft.

2094
01:23:21,260 --> 01:23:23,260
A thousand eggs, DJ Beast.

2095
01:23:23,260 --> 01:23:25,260
So where are we putting first Heretic?

2096
01:23:25,260 --> 01:23:27,260
That's my first S tier one.

2097
01:23:27,260 --> 01:23:29,260
Just because the...

2098
01:23:29,260 --> 01:23:31,260
If that's S tier, then Legion's S tier.

2099
01:23:31,260 --> 01:23:33,260
Don't rank it S tier because of who's in it.

2100
01:23:33,260 --> 01:23:35,260
No.

2101
01:23:35,260 --> 01:23:37,260
Maybe top of A.

2102
01:23:37,260 --> 01:23:39,260
I think it is.

2103
01:23:39,260 --> 01:23:41,260
It's a Custodian battling a...

2104
01:23:41,260 --> 01:23:43,260
That doesn't matter.

2105
01:23:43,260 --> 01:23:45,260
It doesn't look...

2106
01:23:45,260 --> 01:23:47,260
Legion is so cool.

2107
01:23:47,260 --> 01:23:49,260
It's not as clear as these ones.

2108
01:23:49,260 --> 01:23:51,260
Is that an arm? Is that a claw?

2109
01:23:51,260 --> 01:23:53,260
Cook the egg? Cook the egg?

2110
01:23:53,260 --> 01:23:55,260
I don't know what that is.

2111
01:23:55,260 --> 01:23:58,260
If something else, keep it in A to annoy Custodians fans.

2112
01:24:00,260 --> 01:24:02,260
Frostbred Burns is...

2113
01:24:02,260 --> 01:24:04,260
That one's quite nice.

2114
01:24:04,260 --> 01:24:06,260
It's alright that one. It's nice.

2115
01:24:06,260 --> 01:24:08,260
It's definitely better than Magnus and his noodle arms.

2116
01:24:08,260 --> 01:24:10,260
It's not A tier.

2117
01:24:10,260 --> 01:24:14,260
I think it's B just because of its lack of use of color.

2118
01:24:14,260 --> 01:24:19,260
It's a problem with Space Wolves art where it's all blue and white.

2119
01:24:19,260 --> 01:24:21,260
Yeah, gray.

2120
01:24:21,260 --> 01:24:23,260
I get it though.

2121
01:24:23,260 --> 01:24:25,260
Age of Darkness.

2122
01:24:25,260 --> 01:24:27,260
It's cool but it's...

2123
01:24:27,260 --> 01:24:29,260
There are better ones though. Of Horus.

2124
01:24:29,260 --> 01:24:31,260
I'd say it does the job of legibility.

2125
01:24:31,260 --> 01:24:33,260
So I want to put it above first Heretic.

2126
01:24:33,260 --> 01:24:35,260
But it is a bit weird looking.

2127
01:24:35,260 --> 01:24:39,260
Honestly, if I had the money, I would just make an art book of...

2128
01:24:39,260 --> 01:24:47,260
I said earlier, just let artists have a massive crack at redoing all the main Horus Heresy books in their art style.

2129
01:24:47,260 --> 01:24:49,260
It would go so much harder.

2130
01:24:49,260 --> 01:24:53,260
The thing is, with stuff like Horus, there's so many artworks of just him standing imposingly now.

2131
01:24:53,260 --> 01:24:57,260
That kind of already exists now with that particular design.

2132
01:24:57,260 --> 01:25:00,260
You could slap the ones who are like the Horus Heresy card game.

2133
01:25:00,260 --> 01:25:04,260
If you take any of those and put that on the cover, that would be a better cover.

2134
01:25:04,260 --> 01:25:09,260
Harry Ballantyne says, I like everything about the Imperium except Space Marines.

2135
01:25:09,260 --> 01:25:10,260
Good man.

2136
01:25:10,260 --> 01:25:14,260
That's fair. It's an opinion.

2137
01:25:14,260 --> 01:25:16,260
We have some from ZanZero.

2138
01:25:16,260 --> 01:25:20,260
He has his opinions on those amazing looking Nightlords minis. They certainly are amazing.

2139
01:25:20,260 --> 01:25:26,260
Am I a little bitter that we got Nightlords guys before Noisemarine plastic kits still? Yes, but it's okay.

2140
01:25:26,260 --> 01:25:30,260
We have a donation from Leelouch.

2141
01:25:30,260 --> 01:25:34,260
Thank you for the $10A. Is that Australian dollars? I don't know.

2142
01:25:34,260 --> 01:25:35,260
Thank you.

2143
01:25:35,260 --> 01:25:40,260
Just tuned in. Miss the Skaven tier list, but I love my rat boys.

2144
01:25:40,260 --> 01:25:43,260
Almost finished painting my Skaven army.

2145
01:25:43,260 --> 01:25:45,260
I have 80 clans.

2146
01:25:45,260 --> 01:25:48,260
Jeez, dude. I love that.

2147
01:25:48,260 --> 01:25:50,260
I died a slight breeze. Thank you, sir.

2148
01:25:50,260 --> 01:25:51,260
I love painting Skaven.

2149
01:25:51,260 --> 01:25:53,260
Thank you very much, Leelouch.

2150
01:25:53,260 --> 01:25:56,260
We have Crimson Glory. He has it.

2151
01:25:56,260 --> 01:25:58,260
Crimson Glory put him up so you guys could run.

2152
01:25:58,260 --> 01:26:05,260
If we get some egg support in the chat, then you'll see the egg soon.

2153
01:26:05,260 --> 01:26:14,260
The Outcast is dead. This one is Thunder Warrior. I don't think it's nicer, but there's something interesting going on about it.

2154
01:26:14,260 --> 01:26:20,260
It's unique compared to the others. We're in an alleyway. We're wearing weird Thunder Warrior stuff.

2155
01:26:20,260 --> 01:26:23,260
I don't think it draws you in quite as much, though.

2156
01:26:23,260 --> 01:26:27,260
Look at this frail old man with a weird goofy head.

2157
01:26:27,260 --> 01:26:28,260
Cool.

2158
01:26:28,260 --> 01:26:30,260
It's not very pleasing to look at.

2159
01:26:30,260 --> 01:26:36,260
Deliverance Lost. Honestly, despite what is in the book, the cover is actually quite cool, to be fair.

2160
01:26:36,260 --> 01:26:41,260
The cover is better than the book, so give it credit.

2161
01:26:41,260 --> 01:26:45,260
It's above Nemesis. I put it above Nemesis because it's a primal.

2162
01:26:45,260 --> 01:26:46,260
Can we agree on something, though?

2163
01:26:46,260 --> 01:26:51,260
The other book with Core-X on the cover, I think that art is much cooler.

2164
01:26:51,260 --> 01:26:53,260
Oh, his Prime Mark.

2165
01:26:53,260 --> 01:26:55,260
His lightning claws stretched out and everything.

2166
01:26:55,260 --> 01:26:57,260
I think he's bottom of eights here.

2167
01:26:57,260 --> 01:27:00,260
I'm just saying, wherever that one goes, the other one needs to go higher.

2168
01:27:00,260 --> 01:27:02,260
I have egg reaction.

2169
01:27:02,260 --> 01:27:05,260
No, no fear. This one is actually pretty...

2170
01:27:05,260 --> 01:27:08,260
We had to zoom in. This might be the first S-tier one.

2171
01:27:08,260 --> 01:27:13,260
The only thing is, it's a really cool idea, but again, the execution is a bit iffy.

2172
01:27:13,260 --> 01:27:18,260
It's not... I don't mean none of it per... but it is Gilliman smashing a guy in space.

2173
01:27:18,260 --> 01:27:20,260
I'm going to vote S-tier just for...

2174
01:27:20,260 --> 01:27:21,260
S-S-tier.

2175
01:27:21,260 --> 01:27:22,260
I love that one.

2176
01:27:22,260 --> 01:27:25,260
It is cool, though. It's actually really hard to find...

2177
01:27:25,260 --> 01:27:27,260
Why did we put the custodian up there?

2178
01:27:27,260 --> 01:27:30,260
I am still with you, Colin. I'm still with you.

2179
01:27:30,260 --> 01:27:32,260
You can put it into BT, then. I'd be okay with that.

2180
01:27:32,260 --> 01:27:34,260
Yeah, buddy. Cool.

2181
01:27:34,260 --> 01:27:37,260
I think the background color is annoying. It should be green.

2182
01:27:37,260 --> 01:27:39,260
It's an awesome book, though.

2183
01:27:39,260 --> 01:27:44,260
The only thing is, at least with the green, it's contrasting with the red, so you can kind of see a bit better.

2184
01:27:44,260 --> 01:27:48,260
It's when you hit stuff like the one next to it, it's just... I can't tell what's going on.

2185
01:27:48,260 --> 01:27:54,260
For people listening as well, if you're like, I don't know where the Horus Heretic seems so intimidating,

2186
01:27:54,260 --> 01:27:59,260
honestly, you can actually just start at either Horus Rising or First Heretic.

2187
01:27:59,260 --> 01:28:03,260
If you want to skip the actual heresy part, just go to First Heretic.

2188
01:28:03,260 --> 01:28:05,260
Do you know what my first book was?

2189
01:28:05,260 --> 01:28:06,260
Which one was it?

2190
01:28:06,260 --> 01:28:07,260
Frostburied Burns.

2191
01:28:07,260 --> 01:28:09,260
That's a weird place to start.

2192
01:28:09,260 --> 01:28:11,260
I know. I think that might have been my first one too, actually.

2193
01:28:11,260 --> 01:28:16,260
But there are some books like that one where they're self-contained, and canonically, it's very early on,

2194
01:28:16,260 --> 01:28:18,260
and it actually predates some of the other books.

2195
01:28:18,260 --> 01:28:20,260
So it's like, actually, it's not a bad place to start.

2196
01:28:20,260 --> 01:28:25,260
And there are some books like that where Descent of Angels is another one where it's self-contained.

2197
01:28:25,260 --> 01:28:29,260
It doesn't really have a bearing on the majority of the Horus Heresy books, but it's like,

2198
01:28:29,260 --> 01:28:34,260
if you want to try it, you can do that one, you could do that one, you could do a few of them.

2199
01:28:34,260 --> 01:28:37,260
I'll save some of this for when we go just slightly through, because again,

2200
01:28:37,260 --> 01:28:43,260
if we do a tier list of where we talk about the actual books, that will take an entire two hours.

2201
01:28:43,260 --> 01:28:44,260
Oh yeah.

2202
01:28:44,260 --> 01:28:46,260
The Prime Arts was an anthology one.

2203
01:28:46,260 --> 01:28:48,260
It's nothing special.

2204
01:28:48,260 --> 01:28:53,260
That whole artwork is the most iconic artwork of the Prime Arts, I feel like.

2205
01:28:53,260 --> 01:28:56,260
It's like the Last Supper, but for Warhammer.

2206
01:28:56,260 --> 01:28:58,260
I think it's got to go here then.

2207
01:28:58,260 --> 01:29:01,260
Someone said their first book was War of Armageddon.

2208
01:29:01,260 --> 01:29:04,260
That is a crazy...

2209
01:29:04,260 --> 01:29:06,260
That book is the most...

2210
01:29:06,260 --> 01:29:13,260
It deals well with scale in terms of you actually feel like a very, very small...

2211
01:29:13,260 --> 01:29:17,260
As a space marine, you kind of feel like, oh, we're from that perspective.

2212
01:29:17,260 --> 01:29:19,260
Carl, Crimson Glory, you've done it.

2213
01:29:19,260 --> 01:29:21,260
Crimson Glory's $20, thank you, sir.

2214
01:29:21,260 --> 01:29:23,260
Egg, end for the group.

2215
01:29:23,260 --> 01:29:27,260
Marathi from Warhammer or Sylvaness, Sylvanus from Warcraft.

2216
01:29:27,260 --> 01:29:29,260
Who is the best goth elf mommy?

2217
01:29:29,260 --> 01:29:31,260
We all know what the call is.

2218
01:29:31,260 --> 01:29:33,260
I've already made my...

2219
01:29:33,260 --> 01:29:35,260
I haven't played World of Warcraft.

2220
01:29:35,260 --> 01:29:36,260
I know who that is.

2221
01:29:36,260 --> 01:29:38,260
I haven't either, but I know the characters.

2222
01:29:38,260 --> 01:29:40,260
I do know what we're talking about.

2223
01:29:40,260 --> 01:29:42,260
Theatr Tread is the next one.

2224
01:29:42,260 --> 01:29:44,260
This is...

2225
01:29:44,260 --> 01:29:47,260
It's not Scott, it's Kabanda and Sanguineous.

2226
01:29:47,260 --> 01:29:49,260
I think it could have been cooler.

2227
01:29:49,260 --> 01:29:54,260
I think it should be slightly more zoomed out, but it is cool, this one.

2228
01:29:54,260 --> 01:29:58,260
If you actually own the book and you look at it in person, it looks cool.

2229
01:29:58,260 --> 01:30:04,260
And everyone in chat, please let us know if you have the same start book as me for the Horus Heresy.

2230
01:30:04,260 --> 01:30:06,260
Which is, have not read it.

2231
01:30:06,260 --> 01:30:11,260
They can't do all the rap battles, but they can do all Horus Heresy novels.

2232
01:30:11,260 --> 01:30:13,260
Truly, we live in a society.

2233
01:30:13,260 --> 01:30:15,260
We, in fact, live in a society.

2234
01:30:15,260 --> 01:30:21,260
Do you think, Colin, you actually will just straight up read a Horus Heresy before you think at this point?

2235
01:30:21,260 --> 01:30:23,260
I'm going to be honest at this point.

2236
01:30:23,260 --> 01:30:25,260
I miss the hype because it's almost over.

2237
01:30:25,260 --> 01:30:31,260
And like I've said before, it's like I have the same opinion I have about the Horus Heresy as I do CRPGs.

2238
01:30:31,260 --> 01:30:35,260
The books can be as great or as bad or whatever as they want.

2239
01:30:35,260 --> 01:30:37,260
I don't care for Space Marines.

2240
01:30:37,260 --> 01:30:39,260
This is the Space Marine series.

2241
01:30:39,260 --> 01:30:43,260
Nothing is going to make me want to read it.

2242
01:30:43,260 --> 01:30:46,260
The next one is Shadows of Treachery.

2243
01:30:46,260 --> 01:30:50,260
It's annoying because this one is actually much better zoomed out.

2244
01:30:50,260 --> 01:30:56,260
The bit that is zoomed in on there is, because actually it's like Imperial Fist like breaching into a Iron Warriors ship.

2245
01:30:56,260 --> 01:30:59,260
Just another Punching in Space, which is cool.

2246
01:30:59,260 --> 01:31:01,260
Ooh, Eddi.

2247
01:31:01,260 --> 01:31:03,260
Kitchard Bratland for HH.

2248
01:31:03,260 --> 01:31:05,260
Just read the Khan books. You don't need anything else.

2249
01:31:05,260 --> 01:31:09,260
I thought you should know of that Khan.

2250
01:31:09,260 --> 01:31:11,260
The Scars.

2251
01:31:11,260 --> 01:31:14,260
It's not Horus. No, no.

2252
01:31:14,260 --> 01:31:17,260
Not the thing of the Jack of the Can Prime Art book, sorry.

2253
01:31:17,260 --> 01:31:19,260
That one is actually pretty...

2254
01:31:19,260 --> 01:31:21,260
You can just read the Primarch novels.

2255
01:31:21,260 --> 01:31:24,260
You said the Primarchs are quite self-contained and they're fun.

2256
01:31:24,260 --> 01:31:26,260
They're a different kind of urban book series though.

2257
01:31:26,260 --> 01:31:29,260
And they don't really tend to be in that era.

2258
01:31:29,260 --> 01:31:31,260
It's all like, here's my origin or here's a thing I did.

2259
01:31:31,260 --> 01:31:33,260
And they're usually great crusade era.

2260
01:31:33,260 --> 01:31:35,260
So you can listen to them and be like, oh, that's a fun story.

2261
01:31:35,260 --> 01:31:38,260
And it's again, self-contained.

2262
01:31:38,260 --> 01:31:40,260
Angel Exterminate.

2263
01:31:40,260 --> 01:31:42,260
Honestly, Fulgur looks kind of goofy in the back.

2264
01:31:42,260 --> 01:31:44,260
Yeah, he looks... you can't even see him.

2265
01:31:44,260 --> 01:31:46,260
He looks weird.

2266
01:31:46,260 --> 01:31:49,260
I honestly think it's top of B.

2267
01:31:49,260 --> 01:31:54,260
The thing that holds it back again is the weird green color they chose for it.

2268
01:31:54,260 --> 01:31:57,260
But again, at least it does the job of contrasting a bit with it.

2269
01:31:57,260 --> 01:32:00,260
It could have been a better pick, but it gives it that unique,

2270
01:32:00,260 --> 01:32:02,260
oh, it's a weird alien world.

2271
01:32:02,260 --> 01:32:04,260
And when you see it zoomed out and the Emperor's children are in there,

2272
01:32:04,260 --> 01:32:08,260
like, pinky-purple, it really contrasts well.

2273
01:32:08,260 --> 01:32:12,260
The full artwork of that goes very hard.

2274
01:32:12,260 --> 01:32:15,260
Betrayer is S tier. 100%.

2275
01:32:15,260 --> 01:32:18,260
Like one of the coolest covers in the whole series, I think.

2276
01:32:18,260 --> 01:32:20,260
Maybe the coolest one is top of S tier.

2277
01:32:20,260 --> 01:32:22,260
I'd say it's better than Thea No. No, No, Thea.

2278
01:32:22,260 --> 01:32:23,260
No, No, Thea.

2279
01:32:23,260 --> 01:32:25,260
Thea, No, No.

2280
01:32:25,260 --> 01:32:27,260
Even when it's zoomed out, it's just that...

2281
01:32:27,260 --> 01:32:29,260
It's so difficult to read about Kalf.

2282
01:32:29,260 --> 01:32:31,260
Like, oh...

2283
01:32:31,260 --> 01:32:34,260
The Battle for Kalf is a weird read to find.

2284
01:32:34,260 --> 01:32:36,260
Mark of Kalf.

2285
01:32:36,260 --> 01:32:39,260
Unfortunately, this one is a bit mid.

2286
01:32:39,260 --> 01:32:42,260
It's got that, again, I know they're all kind of computer generated.

2287
01:32:42,260 --> 01:32:44,260
I say C, actually.

2288
01:32:44,260 --> 01:32:46,260
It's next to fallen angels.

2289
01:32:46,260 --> 01:32:48,260
Yeah, it's weird.

2290
01:32:48,260 --> 01:32:50,260
But you look at, for example, the two here,

2291
01:32:50,260 --> 01:32:54,260
it's like, Solon looks way better than Reus.

2292
01:32:54,260 --> 01:32:58,260
But Mark of Kalf came way later than The Flight of the Isenstarr.

2293
01:32:58,260 --> 01:33:00,260
It's like years.

2294
01:33:00,260 --> 01:33:03,260
Even just the detail in the armour, it's so muddy and colourless.

2295
01:33:03,260 --> 01:33:05,260
And then you've got this.

2296
01:33:05,260 --> 01:33:07,260
It is an anthology, to be fair, we should say.

2297
01:33:07,260 --> 01:33:10,260
Which, anthology one seems to be a bit weird.

2298
01:33:10,260 --> 01:33:12,260
Vulcan Lives.

2299
01:33:12,260 --> 01:33:14,260
It's a good one.

2300
01:33:14,260 --> 01:33:16,260
I wouldn't say it's... Is it better than Legion?

2301
01:33:16,260 --> 01:33:18,260
Is it better than Legion?

2302
01:33:18,260 --> 01:33:20,260
Legion? I'd still like Legion.

2303
01:33:20,260 --> 01:33:22,260
I think, yeah, I'd bump up Legion.

2304
01:33:22,260 --> 01:33:24,260
Yeah, bump up Legion.

2305
01:33:24,260 --> 01:33:26,260
It is also one of the best horse, seriously, books.

2306
01:33:26,260 --> 01:33:30,260
I wish I could just do our Faris tomorrow.

2307
01:33:30,260 --> 01:33:32,260
As a book.

2308
01:33:32,260 --> 01:33:34,260
Just because of how good the...

2309
01:33:34,260 --> 01:33:39,260
Reading out Legion one is the proper, like, let him cook moment in Muhammad's stuff.

2310
01:33:39,260 --> 01:33:42,260
Oh, Unremitting Empire, this one is S-tier.

2311
01:33:42,260 --> 01:33:47,260
Because it's Sanguineous and the Giliman and the whole of Krag City.

2312
01:33:47,260 --> 01:33:49,260
They look goofy.

2313
01:33:49,260 --> 01:33:53,260
I need to say again, you're thinking too much about how cool it is in the lore.

2314
01:33:53,260 --> 01:33:55,260
We're looking at the artwork right now.

2315
01:33:55,260 --> 01:33:57,260
No, I actually like the cover. I generally like the cover.

2316
01:33:57,260 --> 01:33:59,260
They look like they're like toy soldiers.

2317
01:33:59,260 --> 01:34:03,260
Do you like the cover because of the art or do you like it because it's Sanguineous and Giliman?

2318
01:34:03,260 --> 01:34:06,260
The book is actually, funnily enough, not the best.

2319
01:34:06,260 --> 01:34:09,260
Back up 15 more squiggly lines, thank you, sir.

2320
01:34:09,260 --> 01:34:14,260
Kind of a random question, but who would you want to be the next big bad slash goods after Terenas?

2321
01:34:14,260 --> 01:34:16,260
For me, it's either Orcs or Eldar.

2322
01:34:16,260 --> 01:34:18,260
Dude, I want the Orcs to be the main threads.

2323
01:34:18,260 --> 01:34:20,260
Eldar the big bad?

2324
01:34:20,260 --> 01:34:22,260
You said big bad or good.

2325
01:34:22,260 --> 01:34:24,260
Yeah, I'd say Necrons.

2326
01:34:24,260 --> 01:34:26,260
They deserve that spot.

2327
01:34:26,260 --> 01:34:30,260
I just want to see an alliance between the Drukhari and the craft worlds.

2328
01:34:30,260 --> 01:34:35,260
Just because at some point they're going to go, right, we've got to do something.

2329
01:34:35,260 --> 01:34:38,260
That's what Necrons are supposed to be.

2330
01:34:38,260 --> 01:34:40,260
And you have the friction between those two factions.

2331
01:34:40,260 --> 01:34:45,260
Like, I don't like how you're skinning that civilian, but I kind of need you.

2332
01:34:45,260 --> 01:34:49,260
And that would be a really interesting way to bring the Eldar back as a unified force of like,

2333
01:34:49,260 --> 01:34:53,260
we've got the nice boys and the hot topic nasty people as well.

2334
01:34:53,260 --> 01:34:57,260
And the Imperium's like, Giliman's there going, I'm not happy of Reyn.

2335
01:34:57,260 --> 01:34:59,260
What do you want me to do?

2336
01:34:59,260 --> 01:35:04,260
Well, I'm glad you said you've Reyn because that could have been the Inari books, but unfortunately.

2337
01:35:04,260 --> 01:35:06,260
Yeah.

2338
01:35:06,260 --> 01:35:11,260
Skars, Jack of Tycon roaring at you.

2339
01:35:11,260 --> 01:35:15,260
To be honest, the art itself when it's zoomed out again, it's cool having all the white gods beating each other up.

2340
01:35:15,260 --> 01:35:17,260
And it looks better than some of the...

2341
01:35:17,260 --> 01:35:21,260
I think it looks better than Unremembered Empire and...

2342
01:35:21,260 --> 01:35:23,260
It's a little bit unsaturated, funny enough.

2343
01:35:23,260 --> 01:35:25,260
I think a lot of them have that.

2344
01:35:25,260 --> 01:35:31,260
That's why I actually like the Unremembered Empire one, because actually it's full of colour and it stands out a lot more.

2345
01:35:31,260 --> 01:35:36,260
I'm actually not... it's not my favourite book in The Horrors of Heresy, although Giliman is pretty good.

2346
01:35:36,260 --> 01:35:40,260
I also don't like how in that cover you can see the scale difference, but the little guys are kind of hard to...

2347
01:35:40,260 --> 01:35:43,260
they're easy to miss where you're like, oh, you know...

2348
01:35:43,260 --> 01:35:45,260
Yeah, like little humans.

2349
01:35:45,260 --> 01:35:48,260
I still don't think that cover deserves A tier even.

2350
01:35:48,260 --> 01:35:50,260
I'm a big fan of it. I'm a big fan of it.

2351
01:35:50,260 --> 01:35:52,260
It's better than Deliverance Lost.

2352
01:35:52,260 --> 01:35:55,260
No, it's way more legible. Look at that.

2353
01:35:55,260 --> 01:35:57,260
Yeah.

2354
01:35:57,260 --> 01:35:59,260
I like the colour, it's just they have janky faces.

2355
01:35:59,260 --> 01:36:01,260
Again, look at the difference in the faces.

2356
01:36:01,260 --> 01:36:02,260
I agree to disagree.

2357
01:36:02,260 --> 01:36:03,260
What's happened?

2358
01:36:03,260 --> 01:36:06,260
Poor old Korrax's face though, it's like ugly.

2359
01:36:06,260 --> 01:36:08,260
Don't mention Korrax.

2360
01:36:08,260 --> 01:36:09,260
No, it's not.

2361
01:36:09,260 --> 01:36:11,260
This one's pretty cool.

2362
01:36:11,260 --> 01:36:15,260
I just read this book. I think it's better than The Age of Darkness.

2363
01:36:15,260 --> 01:36:17,260
Is it S tier though?

2364
01:36:17,260 --> 01:36:18,260
I think it's pretty iconic.

2365
01:36:18,260 --> 01:36:19,260
Top of A tier for me.

2366
01:36:19,260 --> 01:36:20,260
Definitely top of A.

2367
01:36:20,260 --> 01:36:23,260
It's again, it suffers with the problem of desaturation in the background.

2368
01:36:23,260 --> 01:36:24,260
And super zoomed in.

2369
01:36:24,260 --> 01:36:35,260
I think the only problem I have with it is it's one of those pieces of artwork that really makes you appreciate how Space Marines would really look inside their armor because Horus is an egg.

2370
01:36:35,260 --> 01:36:40,260
Speaking of egg, there's one egg here.

2371
01:36:40,260 --> 01:36:45,260
Is there anyone who isn't Crimson Glory who would like to contribute to the egg one?

2372
01:36:45,260 --> 01:36:51,260
You guys are just going to keep emptying this guy's bank account for your own pleasure.

2373
01:36:51,260 --> 01:36:55,260
Now, as much as this book kind of sucks, the cover is cool.

2374
01:36:55,260 --> 01:36:59,260
It's like a bunch of Iron Hands Salamanders fighting like aliens.

2375
01:36:59,260 --> 01:37:03,260
It is better than... Is B tier.

2376
01:37:03,260 --> 01:37:05,260
It is in B tier at least.

2377
01:37:05,260 --> 01:37:07,260
Yeah, bottom of B I think though.

2378
01:37:07,260 --> 01:37:09,260
Yeah, I think B tier is serving.

2379
01:37:09,260 --> 01:37:10,260
It's cool design.

2380
01:37:10,260 --> 01:37:12,260
It's not as crap as C tier.

2381
01:37:12,260 --> 01:37:21,260
I know there is an iconicness to the way they do the text slab, but on here, it really doesn't do that piece of art any favors.

2382
01:37:21,260 --> 01:37:22,260
An anti egg fund.

2383
01:37:22,260 --> 01:37:26,260
Do you know how I know this actually this cover art is better than it deserves to be?

2384
01:37:26,260 --> 01:37:36,260
Is because it actually makes the look, the book, like you want to read it and you don't want to read that book because it's honestly a waste of time and it actually doesn't contribute at all to the Horus heiress.

2385
01:37:36,260 --> 01:37:38,260
It's like a self-contained book.

2386
01:37:38,260 --> 01:37:40,260
It's like a really forgettable book.

2387
01:37:40,260 --> 01:37:46,260
Legacies of Betrayal zoomed in on a few as Lucius, Karn.

2388
01:37:46,260 --> 01:37:52,260
For the character, for the for the tier of characters they have on that cover, it's not as good as it should be.

2389
01:37:52,260 --> 01:37:54,260
I think it's probably like here.

2390
01:37:54,260 --> 01:37:55,260
Yeah.

2391
01:37:55,260 --> 01:37:56,260
Because at least they're legible.

2392
01:37:56,260 --> 01:38:00,260
Harry wants to pay for me to not eat the egg.

2393
01:38:00,260 --> 01:38:03,260
Well, Crimson donated like a hundred dollars, bro.

2394
01:38:03,260 --> 01:38:04,260
It's going to cost you, man.

2395
01:38:04,260 --> 01:38:06,260
The egg is probably happening today.

2396
01:38:06,260 --> 01:38:09,260
I'm not going to lie.

2397
01:38:09,260 --> 01:38:11,260
Deathfire.

2398
01:38:11,260 --> 01:38:12,260
This is a cool one.

2399
01:38:12,260 --> 01:38:13,260
It is a cool one.

2400
01:38:13,260 --> 01:38:14,260
This one, to be fair.

2401
01:38:14,260 --> 01:38:15,260
Fire.

2402
01:38:15,260 --> 01:38:16,260
I can like a lot of them I do wish.

2403
01:38:16,260 --> 01:38:18,260
It's got fire and they have a hammer.

2404
01:38:18,260 --> 01:38:19,260
Yeah.

2405
01:38:19,260 --> 01:38:21,260
I wish it was a little bit more legible.

2406
01:38:21,260 --> 01:38:22,260
Yeah.

2407
01:38:22,260 --> 01:38:25,260
Just a tiny bit more, but it is still cool.

2408
01:38:25,260 --> 01:38:27,260
Oh, my boy, Yasu guy.

2409
01:38:27,260 --> 01:38:29,260
That's an iconic look.

2410
01:38:29,260 --> 01:38:34,260
Again, like zoomed out picture is cool, but it doesn't drive me crazy this one, but it's legible.

2411
01:38:34,260 --> 01:38:35,260
It's super legible.

2412
01:38:35,260 --> 01:38:48,260
That's again with the thing like artists need to either like downplay how bulky Space Marine armor is or they need to like modify it like with the Space Marine game where they made it a little bit thinner.

2413
01:38:48,260 --> 01:38:49,260
Crimson, bro, bro, please.

2414
01:38:49,260 --> 01:38:51,260
When you see it like that, it's like, thank you.

2415
01:38:51,260 --> 01:38:54,260
That's thank you, Crimson for the twenty dollars.

2416
01:38:54,260 --> 01:39:00,260
Egg exclamation mark and which 40k series has the best audio books.

2417
01:39:00,260 --> 01:39:05,260
I mean, Horace Heresy is pretty hard to pretty hard to do anything about.

2418
01:39:05,260 --> 01:39:10,260
Horace Heresy, though, is only one voice actor per book, whereas I really like the watches.

2419
01:39:10,260 --> 01:39:11,260
Is it Watches of the Throne?

2420
01:39:11,260 --> 01:39:12,260
Throne.

2421
01:39:12,260 --> 01:39:14,260
They have multiple people voicing characters.

2422
01:39:14,260 --> 01:39:16,260
They have like three or four.

2423
01:39:16,260 --> 01:39:17,260
That's really good.

2424
01:39:17,260 --> 01:39:18,260
This is Valerian.

2425
01:39:18,260 --> 01:39:21,260
Kane has a Kane has his audio books, too.

2426
01:39:21,260 --> 01:39:22,260
Those are solid.

2427
01:39:22,260 --> 01:39:37,260
And there are the on Audible, you can also get like audio drama collections which have like the sound effects, multiple actors like there's a really good one with I think it's the Knights Errant series and it's the bit where Garbiel Oaken is being imprisoned on Caliban and Luthor is there.

2428
01:39:37,260 --> 01:39:43,260
You can hear the rattling of the chains in his cell and the rain hitting the brickwork and it's like, oh, it's so immersive.

2429
01:39:43,260 --> 01:39:45,260
And yeah, I love that stuff.

2430
01:39:45,260 --> 01:39:57,260
And ironically, though, it's not 40k, but the audio drama of anything with got trick in it because Brian Blessed is Brian Blessed.

2431
01:39:57,260 --> 01:40:01,260
I think Crimson Glory is empty half his bank account at this point.

2432
01:40:01,260 --> 01:40:02,260
I think he deserves an egg.

2433
01:40:02,260 --> 01:40:03,260
I'm not going to lie.

2434
01:40:03,260 --> 01:40:05,260
Should we get to the end?

2435
01:40:05,260 --> 01:40:07,260
Golden Arm with the five is that a euro?

2436
01:40:07,260 --> 01:40:08,260
Crimson's not alone.

2437
01:40:08,260 --> 01:40:09,260
Thank you, Golden Arm.

2438
01:40:09,260 --> 01:40:11,260
I can't miss their dedication.

2439
01:40:11,260 --> 01:40:15,260
Okay, I don't think we should make them wait for the end of the egg.

2440
01:40:15,260 --> 01:40:17,260
I think you don't want to wait to the end.

2441
01:40:17,260 --> 01:40:21,260
While you're cracking it, do we want to go through Pharaohs?

2442
01:40:21,260 --> 01:40:28,260
We'll have large numbers, throw enough eggs and one will land in the guy's mouth.

2443
01:40:28,260 --> 01:40:30,260
There'd be egg in Eli's house.

2444
01:40:30,260 --> 01:40:32,260
I don't know if he'd live so or else I would.

2445
01:40:32,260 --> 01:40:34,260
Oh my gosh.

2446
01:40:34,260 --> 01:40:35,260
Jesus.

2447
01:40:35,260 --> 01:40:36,260
I don't want to.

2448
01:40:36,260 --> 01:40:38,260
Why'd you volunteer yourself for this, dude?

2449
01:40:38,260 --> 01:40:41,260
Hey, the man donated. I have water this time.

2450
01:40:41,260 --> 01:40:42,260
Yeah, be careful.

2451
01:40:42,260 --> 01:40:44,260
Good. That's big.

2452
01:40:44,260 --> 01:40:49,260
I'll eat some nuts with solidarity.

2453
01:40:49,260 --> 01:40:52,260
I'm not full. I'm not hungry anymore, but here you go.

2454
01:40:52,260 --> 01:40:56,260
Oh, oh, oh no.

2455
01:40:56,260 --> 01:40:57,260
What?

2456
01:40:57,260 --> 01:40:59,260
You're the best.

2457
01:40:59,260 --> 01:41:00,260
Egg time.

2458
01:41:00,260 --> 01:41:02,260
Around. Nothing's going to happen.

2459
01:41:02,260 --> 01:41:04,260
Nothing can be done.

2460
01:41:04,260 --> 01:41:08,260
You just eat that whole thing.

2461
01:41:08,260 --> 01:41:10,260
The whole shell.

2462
01:41:10,260 --> 01:41:15,260
Oh, oh no.

2463
01:41:15,260 --> 01:41:16,260
Is that your last egg?

2464
01:41:16,260 --> 01:41:24,260
No, no, no.

2465
01:41:24,260 --> 01:41:25,260
No spit take.

2466
01:41:25,260 --> 01:41:26,260
All right.

2467
01:41:26,260 --> 01:41:27,260
Oh my God.

2468
01:41:27,260 --> 01:41:28,260
Just water in here.

2469
01:41:28,260 --> 01:41:29,260
It's real.

2470
01:41:29,260 --> 01:41:31,260
The egg is real.

2471
01:41:31,260 --> 01:41:32,260
Not even.

2472
01:41:32,260 --> 01:41:35,260
Wow. Thank you.

2473
01:41:35,260 --> 01:41:38,260
Egg in the chat, please. Egg in chat.

2474
01:41:38,260 --> 01:41:40,260
That was much, much better than last time.

2475
01:41:40,260 --> 01:41:42,260
That was still so horrible.

2476
01:41:42,260 --> 01:41:45,260
I had to suck down the yolk like three times.

2477
01:41:45,260 --> 01:41:49,260
There was just more and more.

2478
01:41:49,260 --> 01:41:51,260
Oh my. Okay.

2479
01:41:51,260 --> 01:41:53,260
That was for you, Crimson Glory.

2480
01:41:53,260 --> 01:41:54,260
That was for you, bro.

2481
01:41:54,260 --> 01:41:55,260
Thank you, Crimson Glory.

2482
01:41:55,260 --> 01:41:58,260
And everyone else who was donated to the egg.

2483
01:41:58,260 --> 01:41:59,260
Bokken egg.

2484
01:41:59,260 --> 01:42:02,260
Was you. Great googly moogly.

2485
01:42:02,260 --> 01:42:05,260
And now it's for you to speed through the rest of these.

2486
01:42:05,260 --> 01:42:06,260
So you look at me.

2487
01:42:06,260 --> 01:42:13,260
How I make his bed fun to hold again.

2488
01:42:13,260 --> 01:42:16,260
Well, his car has the fullest kitchen table in his bedroom.

2489
01:42:16,260 --> 01:42:21,260
Fuck you.

2490
01:42:21,260 --> 01:42:22,260
Oh God.

2491
01:42:22,260 --> 01:42:23,260
Right.

2492
01:42:23,260 --> 01:42:24,260
Farros.

2493
01:42:24,260 --> 01:42:25,260
Farros.

2494
01:42:25,260 --> 01:42:27,260
Look at this chunky boy.

2495
01:42:27,260 --> 01:42:28,260
What is with you, Andy?

2496
01:42:28,260 --> 01:42:29,260
He's so, wait, hold on.

2497
01:42:29,260 --> 01:42:34,260
Can you honestly say there is a more iconic like chunk in any art.

2498
01:42:34,260 --> 01:42:36,260
Look at that chunky boy.

2499
01:42:36,260 --> 01:42:38,260
I think he just really like his.

2500
01:42:38,260 --> 01:42:41,260
And I like how you can see the difference between the normal and the big hand.

2501
01:42:41,260 --> 01:42:43,260
So it's not like, oh, he's got his actual hands.

2502
01:42:43,260 --> 01:42:45,260
Oh look, you can see a clear distinction.

2503
01:42:45,260 --> 01:42:46,260
It's well framed.

2504
01:42:46,260 --> 01:42:48,260
It's got great contrast in the background.

2505
01:42:48,260 --> 01:42:49,260
Future Crimson fist.

2506
01:42:49,260 --> 01:42:50,260
Hero pose.

2507
01:42:50,260 --> 01:42:51,260
Laurel reef.

2508
01:42:51,260 --> 01:42:53,260
It's great. It's perfect.

2509
01:42:53,260 --> 01:42:54,260
He's so chunky.

2510
01:42:54,260 --> 01:42:55,260
He's like an egg.

2511
01:42:55,260 --> 01:42:58,260
Thank you.

2512
01:42:58,260 --> 01:42:59,260
Thank you.

2513
01:42:58,260 --> 01:43:01,260
Harry Valentine saying you didn't expect to hit the chewing of the egg.

2514
01:43:01,260 --> 01:43:02,260
Hmm.

2515
01:43:02,260 --> 01:43:04,260
A little bit came up on the lip.

2516
01:43:04,260 --> 01:43:06,260
I don't know.

2517
01:43:06,260 --> 01:43:08,260
I think Farros is.

2518
01:43:08,260 --> 01:43:09,260
Is very much.

2519
01:43:09,260 --> 01:43:10,260
I don't think it's better than the no, no fear.

2520
01:43:10,260 --> 01:43:12,260
Gilliam and smacking a guy.

2521
01:43:12,260 --> 01:43:14,260
I mean, that's.

2522
01:43:14,260 --> 01:43:15,260
Yeah.

2523
01:43:14,260 --> 01:43:17,260
The idea and a call of pose, but the execution is not as good.

2524
01:43:17,260 --> 01:43:18,260
Cause it's like, what's going on?

2525
01:43:18,260 --> 01:43:19,260
I can't see.

2526
01:43:19,260 --> 01:43:20,260
I think.

2527
01:43:20,260 --> 01:43:25,260
I think.

2528
01:43:25,260 --> 01:43:26,260
I think no, no fear is better.

2529
01:43:26,260 --> 01:43:27,260
Cause there's.

2530
01:43:27,260 --> 01:43:28,260
Yeah.

2531
01:43:28,260 --> 01:43:29,260
Yeah.

2532
01:43:29,260 --> 01:43:30,260
No, no fear.

2533
01:43:30,260 --> 01:43:33,260
No, no fear is like one of the memes where it's like dudes will look at this and just

2534
01:43:33,260 --> 01:43:34,260
say, hell yeah.

2535
01:43:34,260 --> 01:43:35,260
And then like, yeah, hell yeah.

2536
01:43:35,260 --> 01:43:37,260
Well, then they can see what every reply is.

2537
01:43:37,260 --> 01:43:38,260
Hell yeah.

2538
01:43:38,260 --> 01:43:39,260
Yeah.

2539
01:43:39,260 --> 01:43:40,260
So I'm saying.

2540
01:43:40,260 --> 01:43:41,260
Farros is not a hell yeah.

2541
01:43:41,260 --> 01:43:42,260
They want you to say hello.

2542
01:43:42,260 --> 01:43:43,260
Colin.

2543
01:43:43,260 --> 01:43:44,260
By the way.

2544
01:43:44,260 --> 01:43:46,260
I mean, I'm happy to do halo.

2545
01:43:46,260 --> 01:43:47,260
Or.

2546
01:43:47,260 --> 01:43:50,260
I'm happy to do halo.

2547
01:43:50,260 --> 01:43:51,260
Awesome.

2548
01:43:51,260 --> 01:43:52,260
Goblin guy.

2549
01:43:52,260 --> 01:43:53,260
There is, there is a rewind button, bro.

2550
01:43:53,260 --> 01:43:54,260
It's okay.

2551
01:43:54,260 --> 01:43:55,260
There is a rewind button for the stuff.

2552
01:43:55,260 --> 01:43:56,260
Five.

2553
01:43:56,260 --> 01:43:57,260
Just go back.

2554
01:43:57,260 --> 01:43:58,260
Five minutes ago.

2555
01:43:58,260 --> 01:43:59,260
You can't.

2556
01:43:59,260 --> 01:44:00,260
I have terror.

2557
01:44:00,260 --> 01:44:01,260
I have terror.

2558
01:44:01,260 --> 01:44:02,260
I wish this one was more legible.

2559
01:44:02,260 --> 01:44:03,260
Cause it's the emperor and Horace fighting.

2560
01:44:03,260 --> 01:44:04,260
It's the emperor and Horace together.

2561
01:44:04,260 --> 01:44:05,260
There's too much.

2562
01:44:05,260 --> 01:44:06,260
I can't really.

2563
01:44:06,260 --> 01:44:07,260
I'd say it's above shadows.

2564
01:44:07,260 --> 01:44:08,260
Primark.

2565
01:44:08,260 --> 01:44:09,260
Is it.

2566
01:44:09,260 --> 01:44:10,260
It's also kind of weird.

2567
01:44:10,260 --> 01:44:12,260
Cause it makes horse look like a good guy.

2568
01:44:12,260 --> 01:44:13,260
He's like wreaths and white light.

2569
01:44:13,260 --> 01:44:14,260
Oh, this is, this is set.

2570
01:44:14,260 --> 01:44:15,260
That's when he was.

2571
01:44:15,260 --> 01:44:16,260
This is another.

2572
01:44:16,260 --> 01:44:17,260
Anthology.

2573
01:44:17,260 --> 01:44:18,260
This is, this is.

2574
01:44:18,260 --> 01:44:19,260
Yeah.

2575
01:44:19,260 --> 01:44:20,260
Another anthology.

2576
01:44:20,260 --> 01:44:24,260
And that's, that's the only opening short story that actually features them in it.

2577
01:44:24,260 --> 01:44:26,260
The rest of them are all completely different.

2578
01:44:26,260 --> 01:44:29,260
But it is Horace and the emperor fighting a massive.

2579
01:44:29,260 --> 01:44:32,260
Can you, can you think of different things for me to eat next time?

2580
01:44:32,260 --> 01:44:35,260
I'll go buy a cube of wasabi or something, bro.

2581
01:44:35,260 --> 01:44:38,260
It's like the eggshell is just not very, what did it mean?

2582
01:44:38,260 --> 01:44:40,260
The eggs good for me though, to be fair.

2583
01:44:40,260 --> 01:44:41,260
So.

2584
01:44:41,260 --> 01:44:42,260
Path of heaven.

2585
01:44:42,260 --> 01:44:48,260
I don't know if we're just going to go, this is the calm fighting a sonnish demon.

2586
01:44:48,260 --> 01:44:49,260
It's okay.

2587
01:44:49,260 --> 01:44:50,260
It's the sonnish demon.

2588
01:44:50,260 --> 01:44:53,260
This wasn't looking that Sonnishy weirdly enough.

2589
01:44:53,260 --> 01:44:57,260
It's like, it's kind of like, it's like, it's like de-saturated and red.

2590
01:44:57,260 --> 01:44:58,260
Yeah.

2591
01:44:58,260 --> 01:44:59,260
But look at that.

2592
01:44:59,260 --> 01:45:00,260
It's the old, it's the old model though.

2593
01:45:00,260 --> 01:45:01,980
It's the old key, like metal keeper secrets model.

2594
01:45:01,980 --> 01:45:03,260
I do love it though.

2595
01:45:03,260 --> 01:45:04,260
It is cool though.

2596
01:45:04,260 --> 01:45:05,260
Just cause of his pose and the action.

2597
01:45:05,260 --> 01:45:06,260
You can see what's going on.

2598
01:45:06,260 --> 01:45:07,260
You can see the size difference.

2599
01:45:07,260 --> 01:45:11,260
I'd put it just below scars because of scars legibility.

2600
01:45:11,260 --> 01:45:13,260
Cause again, the details good.

2601
01:45:13,260 --> 01:45:16,260
He has a bit of a weird face, but then he's also got this massive tattoo.

2602
01:45:16,260 --> 01:45:17,260
So you're like fair enough.

2603
01:45:17,260 --> 01:45:18,260
Yeah.

2604
01:45:18,260 --> 01:45:22,260
It's a weird point as well in that book to have that as the cover, cause that's like

2605
01:45:22,260 --> 01:45:27,260
the very last five minutes and the rest of the book is more Tarian versus the kind of

2606
01:45:27,260 --> 01:45:28,260
clickbaity.

2607
01:45:28,260 --> 01:45:29,260
Yeah.

2608
01:45:29,260 --> 01:45:30,260
Try some.

2609
01:45:30,260 --> 01:45:31,260
Consumer Nergo model.

2610
01:45:31,260 --> 01:45:32,260
No, I do not want plastic in my digestances.

2611
01:45:32,260 --> 01:45:35,260
There's already enough of that in all of our blood.

2612
01:45:35,260 --> 01:45:36,260
I'm sure.

2613
01:45:36,260 --> 01:45:37,260
Yeah.

2614
01:45:37,260 --> 01:45:40,260
It's not, it doesn't go crazy, but it is legible.

2615
01:45:40,260 --> 01:45:43,260
I like the guy, I like the guy holding the gun.

2616
01:45:43,260 --> 01:45:46,260
Oh, that's his, uh, Sevarian space wolf.

2617
01:45:46,260 --> 01:45:49,260
No more eating the monolith.

2618
01:45:49,260 --> 01:45:52,260
I remember that meme from last time.

2619
01:45:52,260 --> 01:45:57,260
He's also in, um, the outcast dead background somewhere.

2620
01:45:57,260 --> 01:45:58,260
Yeah.

2621
01:45:58,260 --> 01:45:59,260
It was either way.

2622
01:45:59,260 --> 01:46:00,260
It's Sevarian.

2623
01:46:00,260 --> 01:46:01,260
The one who gets, yeah.

2624
01:46:01,260 --> 01:46:04,260
Someone says he gets his, is he the one who basically Horace, you know, I don't want to

2625
01:46:04,260 --> 01:46:08,260
spoil it, but, um, Horace does the two pronged attack on him.

2626
01:46:08,260 --> 01:46:10,260
I think it was another one, the lunar wolves.

2627
01:46:10,260 --> 01:46:16,260
This is like the latest biker who becomes one of the gray nights.

2628
01:46:16,260 --> 01:46:20,260
Rank which Horace books you would prefer to eat.

2629
01:46:20,260 --> 01:46:21,260
Okay.

2630
01:46:21,260 --> 01:46:26,260
I need all of the Salamanders books because they're shorter ones, I guess.

2631
01:46:26,260 --> 01:46:30,260
If I could eat a Salamanders book that prevents someone from reading it.

2632
01:46:30,260 --> 01:46:31,260
Honestly, shadows of treachery.

2633
01:46:31,260 --> 01:46:32,260
Cause that's like small.

2634
01:46:32,260 --> 01:46:33,260
Praetorian of Doran.

2635
01:46:33,260 --> 01:46:36,260
I would eat every copy of Praetorian of Doran just to get it out.

2636
01:46:36,260 --> 01:46:38,260
Eat all the law crimes members.

2637
01:46:38,260 --> 01:46:41,260
Oh, 20 dogs from Crimson glory again.

2638
01:46:41,260 --> 01:46:42,260
Bless you, sir.

2639
01:46:42,260 --> 01:46:45,260
You keep, you're keeping law crimes alive.

2640
01:46:45,260 --> 01:46:48,260
You are the best at, you are the best at Eli.

2641
01:46:48,260 --> 01:46:50,260
Go get tested for Salman Noah.

2642
01:46:50,260 --> 01:46:55,260
And if I say egg again, it's more for, it's for the meme, not for you to eat another one.

2643
01:46:55,260 --> 01:46:58,260
Also, Colin, you should check out the band shadow of intense.

2644
01:46:58,260 --> 01:47:01,260
The album Reclaimer is not a halo band.

2645
01:47:01,260 --> 01:47:02,260
Sounds like it.

2646
01:47:02,260 --> 01:47:06,260
So all I'm saying is raw eggs, the Eurystivian Salmon, I was pretty low.

2647
01:47:06,260 --> 01:47:08,260
It's 99%.

2648
01:47:08,260 --> 01:47:09,260
Thank you.

2649
01:47:09,260 --> 01:47:10,260
Thank you.

2650
01:47:10,260 --> 01:47:11,260
That is fine.

2651
01:47:11,260 --> 01:47:13,260
We got pretty good eggs over here too.

2652
01:47:13,260 --> 01:47:15,260
One Brussels sprout for every $10.

2653
01:47:15,260 --> 01:47:17,260
I don't know if that's punishment.

2654
01:47:17,260 --> 01:47:19,260
If it's cooked, it's enjoyable.

2655
01:47:19,260 --> 01:47:20,260
Oh, Angel of the Callibans.

2656
01:47:20,260 --> 01:47:21,260
This is S tier.

2657
01:47:21,260 --> 01:47:24,260
S tier, Angel of the Callibans, Conrad Kurz.

2658
01:47:24,260 --> 01:47:25,260
Okay.

2659
01:47:25,260 --> 01:47:27,260
Well, wait, lion, the lion looks really goofy in this.

2660
01:47:27,260 --> 01:47:28,260
He does.

2661
01:47:28,260 --> 01:47:30,260
But the, he looks really goofy.

2662
01:47:30,260 --> 01:47:31,260
But it is cool.

2663
01:47:31,260 --> 01:47:32,260
What's his name from?

2664
01:47:32,260 --> 01:47:33,260
But what's, what's the night?

2665
01:47:33,260 --> 01:47:34,260
What's Conrad doing?

2666
01:47:34,260 --> 01:47:36,260
What's Conrad doing?

2667
01:47:36,260 --> 01:47:37,260
He's got his.

2668
01:47:37,260 --> 01:47:38,260
He's just scoured in across his arm.

2669
01:47:38,260 --> 01:47:39,260
He's like, eh.

2670
01:47:39,260 --> 01:47:41,260
I think it's S tier.

2671
01:47:41,260 --> 01:47:45,260
It's like the lion has a bad like shave for some reason.

2672
01:47:45,260 --> 01:47:47,260
He's got facial hair.

2673
01:47:47,260 --> 01:47:48,260
No, no, no.

2674
01:47:48,260 --> 01:47:52,260
Barbara fucked him up and Conrad is going for like a Dragon Ball Z punch out.

2675
01:47:52,260 --> 01:47:57,260
It's, okay, it could look good, but it's still, it's still cool.

2676
01:47:57,260 --> 01:47:58,260
It's vegetable.

2677
01:47:58,260 --> 01:47:59,260
You made an Eli egg meme.

2678
01:47:59,260 --> 01:48:00,260
Where do you post?

2679
01:48:00,260 --> 01:48:01,260
Instagram.

2680
01:48:01,260 --> 01:48:04,260
And Delos for the Dark Lords says my Instagram.

2681
01:48:04,260 --> 01:48:06,260
I'll pull it up.

2682
01:48:06,260 --> 01:48:11,260
Which 40k character would you realistically subdue and consume like that egg?

2683
01:48:11,260 --> 01:48:12,260
What?

2684
01:48:12,260 --> 01:48:15,260
He phrased you, Kila.

2685
01:48:15,260 --> 01:48:16,260
I, huh.

2686
01:48:16,260 --> 01:48:17,260
What?

2687
01:48:17,260 --> 01:48:18,260
I don't know.

2688
01:48:18,260 --> 01:48:19,260
I don't know.

2689
01:48:19,260 --> 01:48:20,260
I.

2690
01:48:20,260 --> 01:48:21,260
Why you?

2691
01:48:21,260 --> 01:48:22,260
Like a taker.

2692
01:48:22,260 --> 01:48:23,260
Like a taker.

2693
01:48:23,260 --> 01:48:24,260
Who would I, who would I consume?

2694
01:48:24,260 --> 01:48:25,260
Okay.

2695
01:48:25,260 --> 01:48:27,260
I don't know, it's just like, you probably despise this book.

2696
01:48:27,260 --> 01:48:29,260
Eli, Praetorian of Dawn is still a really good cover.

2697
01:48:29,260 --> 01:48:32,260
Oh yeah, it's one of the best covers out there.

2698
01:48:32,260 --> 01:48:36,260
It's finally a zoomed in cover of a full art picture that actually was there.

2699
01:48:36,260 --> 01:48:38,260
It's top of Estuary, yeah.

2700
01:48:38,260 --> 01:48:39,260
It's so good.

2701
01:48:39,260 --> 01:48:40,260
It's legible.

2702
01:48:40,260 --> 01:48:41,260
Alpharius looks so cool in it.

2703
01:48:41,260 --> 01:48:42,260
I like that.

2704
01:48:42,260 --> 01:48:43,260
Alpharius does.

2705
01:48:43,260 --> 01:48:44,260
The sword is awesome too.

2706
01:48:44,260 --> 01:48:46,260
It's not the real Alpharius, bro.

2707
01:48:46,260 --> 01:48:48,260
Surely it's not the real one this time, bro.

2708
01:48:48,260 --> 01:48:49,260
Fucking Minyamin.

2709
01:48:49,260 --> 01:48:53,260
It's like our Skaven voices finally came in.

2710
01:48:53,260 --> 01:48:57,260
The people joining now watched the beginning with all the Skaven stuff.

2711
01:48:57,260 --> 01:49:01,260
This one kind of looks like if they took a picture of the model.

2712
01:49:01,260 --> 01:49:03,260
That one is cooler than the other art of Korraks.

2713
01:49:03,260 --> 01:49:08,260
I feel like if they took a picture of the model and just like put it through a computer program and that's the artwork.

2714
01:49:08,260 --> 01:49:15,260
People have done art renditions of Korraks that look like incredible.

2715
01:49:15,260 --> 01:49:19,260
So it's just, something can be done with Korraks though.

2716
01:49:19,260 --> 01:49:24,260
I did see an image recently of like T'Kel and that cover art.

2717
01:49:24,260 --> 01:49:25,260
I can't remember which one.

2718
01:49:25,260 --> 01:49:28,260
But you can obviously see the blobby CGI version.

2719
01:49:28,260 --> 01:49:33,260
So they've obviously like made them in a computer and then they just like paint on top of the models in 3D.

2720
01:49:33,260 --> 01:49:35,260
But that also makes it look a bit weird.

2721
01:49:35,260 --> 01:49:37,260
Again, someone needs to do a thing.

2722
01:49:37,260 --> 01:49:39,260
You've sent me stuff on Instagram before.

2723
01:49:39,260 --> 01:49:40,260
I didn't know that was you.

2724
01:49:40,260 --> 01:49:41,260
Nice.

2725
01:49:41,260 --> 01:49:42,260
That's a good meme.

2726
01:49:42,260 --> 01:49:44,260
I don't know if I can really see it.

2727
01:49:44,260 --> 01:49:47,260
It says A, consumes like the Dark Souls text.

2728
01:49:47,260 --> 01:49:50,260
That's a good one.

2729
01:49:50,260 --> 01:49:52,260
Thank you, Mr. DJ.

2730
01:49:52,260 --> 01:49:54,260
I wonder if I'll download this.

2731
01:49:54,260 --> 01:49:56,260
Angels of Calum beg.

2732
01:49:56,260 --> 01:49:59,260
What about Mom?

2733
01:49:59,260 --> 01:50:00,260
Mom.

2734
01:50:00,260 --> 01:50:03,260
Someone said I would dropkick the lion if someone asked me to.

2735
01:50:03,260 --> 01:50:05,260
It wouldn't take a lot of convincing.

2736
01:50:05,260 --> 01:50:08,260
What happened, CJ?

2737
01:50:08,260 --> 01:50:10,260
This guy's the epic god.

2738
01:50:10,260 --> 01:50:12,260
Oh, master of mankind.

2739
01:50:12,260 --> 01:50:14,260
S tier, S tier.

2740
01:50:14,260 --> 01:50:17,260
Absolute S tier, master of mankind.

2741
01:50:17,260 --> 01:50:20,260
I'm going to fight for bottom of S tier though.

2742
01:50:20,260 --> 01:50:22,260
No, it's better than the pharaohs.

2743
01:50:22,260 --> 01:50:24,260
I need you to hear me out.

2744
01:50:24,260 --> 01:50:29,260
The only solidly attention grabbing great thing is the emperor.

2745
01:50:29,260 --> 01:50:30,260
It's very good.

2746
01:50:30,260 --> 01:50:31,260
It's very well designed.

2747
01:50:31,260 --> 01:50:34,260
Those two custodians down there, they look like they're just walking around.

2748
01:50:34,260 --> 01:50:36,260
That's a sister of S tier.

2749
01:50:36,260 --> 01:50:38,260
I see it more than pharaohs.

2750
01:50:38,260 --> 01:50:39,260
All I see is gold.

2751
01:50:39,260 --> 01:50:41,260
All I can see is gold on the people in this image.

2752
01:50:41,260 --> 01:50:42,260
I hate it.

2753
01:50:42,260 --> 01:50:44,260
The sword looks cool, but it kind of looks like fire.

2754
01:50:44,260 --> 01:50:47,260
I think if it was zoomed in to the pharaoh a bit more, and then you cut it a bit more.

2755
01:50:47,260 --> 01:50:49,260
It's better than pharaohs.

2756
01:50:49,260 --> 01:50:52,260
Why are you so chucky?

2757
01:50:52,260 --> 01:50:54,260
It's not better than the emperor.

2758
01:50:54,260 --> 01:50:57,260
It's absolutely not better than the emperor.

2759
01:50:57,260 --> 01:51:00,260
Pharaohs is literally A tier bro.

2760
01:51:00,260 --> 01:51:03,260
He's clinging to strings up there.

2761
01:51:03,260 --> 01:51:05,260
Andy, I'm with you here.

2762
01:51:05,260 --> 01:51:06,260
I love the egg.

2763
01:51:06,260 --> 01:51:08,260
I know, he's brilliant.

2764
01:51:08,260 --> 01:51:12,260
Honestly, the copium here is being huffed.

2765
01:51:12,260 --> 01:51:14,260
I agree.

2766
01:51:14,260 --> 01:51:20,260
Colin's just egging it on because of his shit's and giggling.

2767
01:51:20,260 --> 01:51:23,260
You are so wrong about this.

2768
01:51:23,260 --> 01:51:25,260
This man is out of proportion.

2769
01:51:25,260 --> 01:51:27,260
He's built like a fucking pharaoh.

2770
01:51:27,260 --> 01:51:28,260
The pharaoh's cool.

2771
01:51:28,260 --> 01:51:29,260
The pharaoh's cool.

2772
01:51:29,260 --> 01:51:30,260
What is his arm doing?

2773
01:51:30,260 --> 01:51:31,260
What is his left arm doing?

2774
01:51:31,260 --> 01:51:32,260
Why is it hanging like that?

2775
01:51:32,260 --> 01:51:33,260
He's holding a book.

2776
01:51:33,260 --> 01:51:35,260
Why, the book is not that heavy.

2777
01:51:35,260 --> 01:51:37,260
Why is he holding it like that?

2778
01:51:37,260 --> 01:51:41,260
Alexis Pollock's built like a burst oil barrel drum.

2779
01:51:41,260 --> 01:51:42,260
I will give it credit.

2780
01:51:42,260 --> 01:51:46,260
That is exactly what I mean when I say they need to change how Space Marine armor looks.

2781
01:51:46,260 --> 01:51:51,260
Because that one actually looks like I can see that man moving around and doing things.

2782
01:51:51,260 --> 01:51:53,260
As opposed to pharaohs where he is an egg.

2783
01:51:53,260 --> 01:51:58,260
But to be fair, like, lore-wise, he had to have bigger armor because he's huge.

2784
01:51:58,260 --> 01:52:01,260
He met Gilliam in a high level.

2785
01:52:01,260 --> 01:52:03,260
Yeah, so he has like a rigged up.

2786
01:52:03,260 --> 01:52:06,260
We took a bit of Terminator armor and he's a bit of a mix.

2787
01:52:06,260 --> 01:52:09,260
It's not better than the Master of Mankind.

2788
01:52:09,260 --> 01:52:12,260
Just because you like the character.

2789
01:52:12,260 --> 01:52:15,260
No, the Master of Mankind book cover is way better than the pharaoh's.

2790
01:52:15,260 --> 01:52:17,260
No, I agree with you, Hal.

2791
01:52:17,260 --> 01:52:19,260
Just look at the hands between the two.

2792
01:52:19,260 --> 01:52:20,260
Well defined.

2793
01:52:20,260 --> 01:52:22,260
I'm also going to see it.

2794
01:52:22,260 --> 01:52:23,260
Can't see it.

2795
01:52:23,260 --> 01:52:28,260
Even if there's a reason for something being goofy, that doesn't make it not goofy.

2796
01:52:28,260 --> 01:52:31,260
He can have all the reason he needs to have his big chunk armor.

2797
01:52:31,260 --> 01:52:33,260
He still has big chunk goofy armor.

2798
01:52:33,260 --> 01:52:37,260
His arm doesn't look like it can move past this point.

2799
01:52:37,260 --> 01:52:39,260
It gets stuck here.

2800
01:52:39,260 --> 01:52:41,260
He's like one of those punchy robots.

2801
01:52:41,260 --> 01:52:45,260
It shouldn't even be an S tier, but if it's in the S tier, it should be a boss.

2802
01:52:45,260 --> 01:52:47,260
No, pharaoh should be boss of S tier.

2803
01:52:47,260 --> 01:52:50,260
That looks stupid as hell and I'm here for it.

2804
01:52:50,260 --> 01:52:52,260
What about Garo? Where's Garo going?

2805
01:52:52,260 --> 01:52:54,260
I can leave him there. I can live with that.

2806
01:52:54,260 --> 01:52:57,260
I think he should be above here, because again, it's that.

2807
01:52:57,260 --> 01:53:01,260
If you ask most people, they're going to say that, like, most people who don't even know Warhammer,

2808
01:53:01,260 --> 01:53:05,260
they're going to say Angel of the Caliban looks way better as a cover than Garo.

2809
01:53:05,260 --> 01:53:09,260
And modern mankind is way better than pharaohs.

2810
01:53:09,260 --> 01:53:10,260
Honestly.

2811
01:53:10,260 --> 01:53:15,260
CrimsonGloryDenate2 says, to DereleChan, what are your favorite music genre?

2812
01:53:15,260 --> 01:53:19,260
EDM, baby. EDM. I'm a Noisemarine through and through.

2813
01:53:19,260 --> 01:53:21,260
EDM and heavy metal.

2814
01:53:21,260 --> 01:53:23,260
Shattered allegiance.

2815
01:53:23,260 --> 01:53:25,260
This is a cool one. I like this one.

2816
01:53:25,260 --> 01:53:28,260
I wish this book was slightly harder.

2817
01:53:28,260 --> 01:53:31,260
Why does he have an orange blob for a head?

2818
01:53:31,260 --> 01:53:34,260
They're all... they're a gun flare.

2819
01:53:34,260 --> 01:53:36,260
It's kind of obnoxious.

2820
01:53:36,260 --> 01:53:38,260
It's not S tier as a book cover.

2821
01:53:38,260 --> 01:53:40,260
It's A tier, I think. I think it's A tier.

2822
01:53:40,260 --> 01:53:42,260
Somewhere in A tier.

2823
01:53:42,260 --> 01:53:45,260
You know what? It's underneath Unremembered Empire, at least.

2824
01:53:45,260 --> 01:53:48,260
It's like at the very bottom of A tier. But it's better than the Horus one.

2825
01:53:48,260 --> 01:53:51,260
Again, it's too far out to see what's going on.

2826
01:53:51,260 --> 01:53:53,260
I wish that one was better, because that book is actually kind of good.

2827
01:53:53,260 --> 01:53:55,260
Oh, this one though. Geez. I can't.

2828
01:53:55,260 --> 01:53:57,260
This one is D.

2829
01:53:57,260 --> 01:53:59,260
I can't even...

2830
01:53:59,260 --> 01:54:01,260
You can't even... It's actually just way too zoomed in and so...

2831
01:54:01,260 --> 01:54:03,260
The proportions are also so weird.

2832
01:54:03,260 --> 01:54:07,260
I put it above A Thousand Suns, at least, because he has better than the stupid...

2833
01:54:07,260 --> 01:54:12,260
But it makes it look like his legs are like a quarter of his size.

2834
01:54:12,260 --> 01:54:14,260
He's just a squat.

2835
01:54:14,260 --> 01:54:17,260
He's like sitting down in doing his spell or something.

2836
01:54:17,260 --> 01:54:18,260
He's a botan.

2837
01:54:18,260 --> 01:54:21,260
I feel like that should be above just because of the color contrast.

2838
01:54:21,260 --> 01:54:23,260
Maybe we were too harsh on Fulgrim.

2839
01:54:23,260 --> 01:54:27,260
Maybe it's... I think Crimson King is below Horus Rising.

2840
01:54:27,260 --> 01:54:30,260
The Iron Hands guy in Fulgrim looks pretty cool, not gonna lie.

2841
01:54:30,260 --> 01:54:34,260
Tank. Tellarm. Easy B tier.

2842
01:54:34,260 --> 01:54:36,260
Oh, that's an A tier, bro. That looks cool.

2843
01:54:36,260 --> 01:54:39,260
At least B tier. It's just a tank. It's just cool.

2844
01:54:39,260 --> 01:54:42,260
It's not trying to be... It's just cool. It's a big tank.

2845
01:54:42,260 --> 01:54:44,260
Is it better than...

2846
01:54:44,260 --> 01:54:45,260
It's B tier even.

2847
01:54:45,260 --> 01:54:51,260
Are you telling me it's better than Angel Exterminatus, Heretic, or War Without End?

2848
01:54:51,260 --> 01:54:53,260
Harry Ballington says...

2849
01:54:53,260 --> 01:54:55,260
It's the only one that's just tank.

2850
01:54:55,260 --> 01:54:57,260
And you're like, oh cool. Tank.

2851
01:54:57,260 --> 01:54:59,260
And you know exactly what you're gonna get.

2852
01:54:59,260 --> 01:55:05,260
Compared to all the other covers, if all the covers of the books are in front of a regular person, they aren't gonna go tank.

2853
01:55:05,260 --> 01:55:09,260
And the thing is as well, it doesn't have that uncanniness of having a face.

2854
01:55:09,260 --> 01:55:12,260
It's like, oh, it's a tank. And I could imagine that as a real looking tank.

2855
01:55:12,260 --> 01:55:15,260
When you look at the horus, they look so skippable.

2856
01:55:15,260 --> 01:55:17,260
They look so goofy.

2857
01:55:17,260 --> 01:55:19,260
I'm not gonna lie, the book looks so skippable.

2858
01:55:19,260 --> 01:55:22,260
You look at Perderaba with his nose tubes and you're like, I don't know.

2859
01:55:22,260 --> 01:55:24,260
It was like, oh, tank.

2860
01:55:24,260 --> 01:55:28,260
Of all the things I could get someone to read a Warhammer book, it would not be that cover.

2861
01:55:28,260 --> 01:55:33,260
From before I got into Warhammer and I was looking at all these Horus Heresy novels and I don't know what the hell I was looking at,

2862
01:55:33,260 --> 01:55:39,260
I would look at some of the faces like Horus Rising, some of the other ones, and be like, these faces look horrendous.

2863
01:55:39,260 --> 01:55:42,260
I don't want to read these because it looks so bad.

2864
01:55:42,260 --> 01:55:44,260
Tongue. Done.

2865
01:55:44,260 --> 01:55:47,260
We got a comment from Harry Ballington.

2866
01:55:47,260 --> 01:55:50,260
He says, if Eli has 100 eggs, I am one of them.

2867
01:55:50,260 --> 01:55:52,260
If Eli has one egg, it is me.

2868
01:55:52,260 --> 01:55:57,260
If Eli has no eggs, Crimson Glory has emptied his bank account and I've been consumed.

2869
01:55:57,260 --> 01:55:59,260
That's a very good comment.

2870
01:55:59,260 --> 01:56:01,260
And then DJ Beasts is going to bed.

2871
01:56:01,260 --> 01:56:04,260
He says, hopefully I don't miss the Epic Rap Biles to you list.

2872
01:56:04,260 --> 01:56:06,260
Don't worry, bro.

2873
01:56:06,260 --> 01:56:08,260
It's not a shit.

2874
01:56:08,260 --> 01:56:10,260
Good night, bro.

2875
01:56:10,260 --> 01:56:13,260
Oh, this one, Ruins of Miss D is actually the bottom of D.

2876
01:56:13,260 --> 01:56:17,260
The Lion looks, it's the most horrific book cover.

2877
01:56:17,260 --> 01:56:20,260
Do they use a computer program to make it?

2878
01:56:20,260 --> 01:56:22,260
Can we zoom in on that one?

2879
01:56:22,260 --> 01:56:28,260
I might be able to find it later on, but I saw one where it's literally, you can see the kind of blobby, chunky versions.

2880
01:56:28,260 --> 01:56:31,260
And they obviously take the models and then they paint them afterwards.

2881
01:56:31,260 --> 01:56:33,260
I'll see if I can find it.

2882
01:56:33,260 --> 01:56:36,260
I hate the lion's beard there. Why is it black?

2883
01:56:36,260 --> 01:56:38,260
Yeah, it's so horrific.

2884
01:56:38,260 --> 01:56:41,260
These can't get the lion right in any of his art work, too.

2885
01:56:41,260 --> 01:56:45,260
Apart from the new book, The Lion, Some of the Forests, I guess.

2886
01:56:45,260 --> 01:56:47,260
The thing is though, yeah, that's new lion.

2887
01:56:47,260 --> 01:56:49,260
But when you like, see the zoomed out version.

2888
01:56:49,260 --> 01:56:51,260
How do you have a black beard and blonde hair?

2889
01:56:51,260 --> 01:56:53,260
I mean, because Gilliman looks fine to an extent.

2890
01:56:53,260 --> 01:56:55,260
Sanguineous looks okay.

2891
01:56:55,260 --> 01:56:57,260
And when it's zoomed out, you see all the demons rushing in.

2892
01:56:57,260 --> 01:56:59,260
It's all like on one side of a big landscaping.

2893
01:56:59,260 --> 01:57:01,260
Oh, it looks good.

2894
01:57:01,260 --> 01:57:04,260
And then, oh no, Lion, why have you got a beard?

2895
01:57:04,260 --> 01:57:06,260
It's a crime against war, Hallow.

2896
01:57:06,260 --> 01:57:08,260
That is a law crime.

2897
01:57:08,260 --> 01:57:10,260
It's more of a personal gripe.

2898
01:57:10,260 --> 01:57:13,260
I don't like when, pardon me, Sanguineous has like the curly hair.

2899
01:57:13,260 --> 01:57:15,260
What's going on here? Oh, God.

2900
01:57:15,260 --> 01:57:17,260
We zoomed in too much. There we go.

2901
01:57:17,260 --> 01:57:19,260
We went too deep.

2902
01:57:19,260 --> 01:57:21,260
We went all the way to the bottom for some reason.

2903
01:57:21,260 --> 01:57:23,260
Old Earth is the next one.

2904
01:57:23,260 --> 01:57:25,260
Old Earth.

2905
01:57:25,260 --> 01:57:27,260
As much as I don't like the book, the cover is still nice though.

2906
01:57:27,260 --> 01:57:29,260
The cover's good.

2907
01:57:29,260 --> 01:57:33,260
Compared to the other Primarchs with this style of art, he looks nice.

2908
01:57:33,260 --> 01:57:35,260
I'd say it's better than the primarchs.

2909
01:57:35,260 --> 01:57:37,260
It's better than Deathfire, surely.

2910
01:57:37,260 --> 01:57:40,260
It does still just look like they took a picture of the model.

2911
01:57:40,260 --> 01:57:42,260
Yeah.

2912
01:57:42,260 --> 01:57:45,260
It's got that 90s PC cinematic look.

2913
01:57:45,260 --> 01:57:48,260
It's a little bit unoriginal, but it's still nice.

2914
01:57:48,260 --> 01:57:50,260
Yeah, but it serves its function for a book cover.

2915
01:57:50,260 --> 01:57:55,260
To be fair, when you look at the armor and stuff, you're like,

2916
01:57:55,260 --> 01:57:56,260
oh, that's actually quite nice.

2917
01:57:56,260 --> 01:57:57,260
I like the textures.

2918
01:57:57,260 --> 01:57:58,260
Oh, look at the helmet.

2919
01:57:58,260 --> 01:58:01,260
Oh, that's a cool right there.

2920
01:58:01,260 --> 01:58:04,260
A little bit of weirdness on his left-hand side.

2921
01:58:04,260 --> 01:58:07,260
There's like an uncanny, unhelmeted son of Amanda.

2922
01:58:07,260 --> 01:58:08,260
He looks a bit funky.

2923
01:58:08,260 --> 01:58:09,260
One of his own.

2924
01:58:09,260 --> 01:58:10,260
I don't remember his name.

2925
01:58:10,260 --> 01:58:11,260
Next one.

2926
01:58:11,260 --> 01:58:12,260
S-tier.

2927
01:58:12,260 --> 01:58:13,260
This S-tier.

2928
01:58:13,260 --> 01:58:14,260
It's nice.

2929
01:58:14,260 --> 01:58:15,260
Yeah, that's awesome.

2930
01:58:15,260 --> 01:58:16,260
That is awesome.

2931
01:58:16,260 --> 01:58:18,260
It's like a whole lot of...

2932
01:58:18,260 --> 01:58:19,260
Titans robots.

2933
01:58:19,260 --> 01:58:20,260
I own that book.

2934
01:58:20,260 --> 01:58:21,260
I actually have that book.

2935
01:58:21,260 --> 01:58:22,260
Have you read it?

2936
01:58:22,260 --> 01:58:24,260
Solely because big robots on the cover.

2937
01:58:24,260 --> 01:58:25,260
No, I haven't.

2938
01:58:25,260 --> 01:58:27,260
It does go hard, that one.

2939
01:58:27,260 --> 01:58:32,260
Titans is one of the few things in Warhammer where it's actually genuinely iconic in terms

2940
01:58:32,260 --> 01:58:33,260
of...

2941
01:58:33,260 --> 01:58:35,260
And these ones in particular, they have really nice...

2942
01:58:35,260 --> 01:58:37,260
Oh, look, there's some yellows, some reds, some blues.

2943
01:58:37,260 --> 01:58:40,260
It's like a lot of the newer stuff, it's all like, it's just one color.

2944
01:58:40,260 --> 01:58:41,260
It's kind of grimy.

2945
01:58:41,260 --> 01:58:43,260
It's like, this is just kind of goofy.

2946
01:58:43,260 --> 01:58:47,260
Like, I built this in my... I've got my Legos together kind of thing.

2947
01:58:47,260 --> 01:58:49,260
It's like, oh, it's weird looking.

2948
01:58:49,260 --> 01:58:50,260
It's how you're supposed to be.

2949
01:58:50,260 --> 01:58:56,260
Do you remember at Warhammer the first, there was that guy who had that massive Titan, the

2950
01:58:56,260 --> 01:59:01,260
really huge one next to the play park with all the other Titans?

2951
01:59:01,260 --> 01:59:02,260
That was that Titan, basically.

2952
01:59:02,260 --> 01:59:03,260
I gotta be honest.

2953
01:59:03,260 --> 01:59:04,260
That was crazy.

2954
01:59:04,260 --> 01:59:07,260
I would never do it, but no small part of me wanted to just start kicking.

2955
01:59:07,260 --> 01:59:12,260
It was like, it was five foot tall, this Titan.

2956
01:59:12,260 --> 01:59:16,260
It was like a two scale Imperator Titan.

2957
01:59:16,260 --> 01:59:19,260
It was literally, never speak to me or my son again, kind of...

2958
01:59:19,260 --> 01:59:21,260
It was pretty big.

2959
01:59:21,260 --> 01:59:23,260
How did he carry it around?

2960
01:59:23,260 --> 01:59:25,260
Forklift, probably.

2961
01:59:25,260 --> 01:59:29,260
Honestly, this one is...

2962
01:59:29,260 --> 01:59:31,260
It's actually nice.

2963
01:59:31,260 --> 01:59:34,260
It's actually really super legible.

2964
01:59:34,260 --> 01:59:37,260
That's a little bit higher up than it deserves, I think, but it is cool.

2965
01:59:37,260 --> 01:59:43,260
It's another one where they managed to zoom in on a bigger piece of artwork and not ruin it.

2966
01:59:43,260 --> 01:59:44,260
Yeah.

2967
01:59:44,260 --> 01:59:48,260
The only thing is, I don't like what's the green with the silver.

2968
01:59:48,260 --> 01:59:51,260
I hate his armor in this one because there's not much stuff.

2969
01:59:51,260 --> 01:59:52,260
I actually like his shoulder.

2970
01:59:52,260 --> 01:59:54,260
I actually like that.

2971
01:59:54,260 --> 01:59:58,260
I don't mind it, but it's just like, why is there bits of green and it's all one color

2972
01:59:58,260 --> 02:00:00,260
and it kind of looks like he's not been painted.

2973
02:00:00,260 --> 02:00:01,260
It's like an unpainted model look.

2974
02:00:01,260 --> 02:00:02,260
I'm like, what is going on?

2975
02:00:02,260 --> 02:00:06,260
Also, he's blonde in that, but then in the books he's ginger.

2976
02:00:06,260 --> 02:00:07,260
Yeah.

2977
02:00:07,260 --> 02:00:08,260
So...

2978
02:00:08,260 --> 02:00:09,260
Leeman's always changing.

2979
02:00:09,260 --> 02:00:13,260
His hair color is not consistent in any of the books.

2980
02:00:13,260 --> 02:00:16,260
Oh, his luscious gold, brown, ginger hair.

2981
02:00:16,260 --> 02:00:17,260
That's pretty cool.

2982
02:00:17,260 --> 02:00:19,260
Oh, I don't think I've even read...

2983
02:00:19,260 --> 02:00:21,260
I don't even know this one.

2984
02:00:21,260 --> 02:00:22,260
It's all right.

2985
02:00:22,260 --> 02:00:23,260
But it's a Salamander book.

2986
02:00:23,260 --> 02:00:26,260
I think it's an anthology of Salamander stories, so it's like...

2987
02:00:26,260 --> 02:00:31,260
I like it more than whatever the other folk...

2988
02:00:31,260 --> 02:00:32,260
I don't think it's...

2989
02:00:32,260 --> 02:00:33,260
It's not above the Jagatai one, surely.

2990
02:00:33,260 --> 02:00:34,260
Really?

2991
02:00:34,260 --> 02:00:35,260
I think it's pretty good.

2992
02:00:35,260 --> 02:00:36,260
It's a book cup.

2993
02:00:36,260 --> 02:00:37,260
Actually, no, maybe it's about the same, to be fair.

2994
02:00:37,260 --> 02:00:38,260
It's got that legibility.

2995
02:00:38,260 --> 02:00:39,260
It's got nice colors.

2996
02:00:39,260 --> 02:00:40,260
It's got a bit of contrast.

2997
02:00:40,260 --> 02:00:41,260
It's nice and centered.

2998
02:00:41,260 --> 02:00:42,260
It is nice.

2999
02:00:42,260 --> 02:00:43,260
It is nice, yeah.

3000
02:00:43,260 --> 02:00:44,260
It's nice.

3001
02:00:44,260 --> 02:00:45,260
It's nice.

3002
02:00:45,260 --> 02:00:46,260
Shame about the book.

3003
02:00:46,260 --> 02:00:47,260
Shame.

3004
02:00:47,260 --> 02:00:54,260
When people have been asking my comments about, will you do a Vulcan video?

3005
02:00:54,260 --> 02:00:55,260
I'm like, you know what?

3006
02:00:55,260 --> 02:00:59,260
I think I should do it, but then I have to read the Salamander novels.

3007
02:00:59,260 --> 02:01:02,260
And honestly, I do struggle to bring my...

3008
02:01:02,260 --> 02:01:06,260
I'm actually going to cover Gillamond way before I ever...

3009
02:01:06,260 --> 02:01:09,260
Gillamond, Dorne, any loyalist before...

3010
02:01:09,260 --> 02:01:10,260
Even Korax way before Vulcan.

3011
02:01:10,260 --> 02:01:14,260
It's a shame as well, because a lot of the Salamander's characters are all kind of the

3012
02:01:14,260 --> 02:01:15,260
same character.

3013
02:01:15,260 --> 02:01:16,260
They're just good boys.

3014
02:01:16,260 --> 02:01:17,260
You should do what Dad says.

3015
02:01:17,260 --> 02:01:18,260
There's no difference.

3016
02:01:18,260 --> 02:01:19,260
They need a...

3017
02:01:19,260 --> 02:01:25,260
I hate to call him one out, but the author who's in charge of that, I don't know what

3018
02:01:25,260 --> 02:01:27,260
ideas he's got for Salamander's.

3019
02:01:27,260 --> 02:01:31,260
I don't think anyone who writes Salamanders has good ideas for them.

3020
02:01:31,260 --> 02:01:35,260
I haven't read them, but everything I hear about Salamander's books is their bad.

3021
02:01:35,260 --> 02:01:41,260
To be fair though, that's not a Salamander problem because White Scar's, who had barely

3022
02:01:41,260 --> 02:01:44,260
any lore, were given to the author Chris Wray.

3023
02:01:44,260 --> 02:01:49,260
And that guy managed to turn the obscure White Scar's One Note Legion into one of the people's

3024
02:01:49,260 --> 02:01:50,260
most...

3025
02:01:50,260 --> 02:01:54,260
As in people readers, one of the most favorite legions in the entire horror territory, just

3026
02:01:54,260 --> 02:01:57,260
because of the nuance in all those books.

3027
02:01:57,260 --> 02:02:03,260
Honestly, if you just read White Scar's books, you would actually be like, oh, this slaps

3028
02:02:03,260 --> 02:02:04,260
hard.

3029
02:02:04,260 --> 02:02:07,260
And again, it was because he actually found a way to make it good.

3030
02:02:07,260 --> 02:02:10,260
Slaves of Darkness, I love this.

3031
02:02:10,260 --> 02:02:14,260
I do love this color, because it has all the demon pry marks together.

3032
02:02:14,260 --> 02:02:17,260
It's colorful, it's grand, it's got cool designs, they all stick out.

3033
02:02:17,260 --> 02:02:19,260
Can we get a zoom in on that one, just possibly?

3034
02:02:19,260 --> 02:02:20,260
I don't wanna...

3035
02:02:20,260 --> 02:02:23,260
Just as we can.

3036
02:02:23,260 --> 02:02:26,260
That one doesn't quite pull off the zoom in as well as the others.

3037
02:02:26,260 --> 02:02:27,260
It's a little too much.

3038
02:02:27,260 --> 02:02:28,260
Anger on his left.

3039
02:02:28,260 --> 02:02:33,260
I appreciate that they're cutting Logar out mostly, but if we could just shift it to the

3040
02:02:33,260 --> 02:02:35,260
right a little more, it'd be perfect.

3041
02:02:35,260 --> 02:02:39,260
I don't think Wolfsbane is better than Betrayer.

3042
02:02:39,260 --> 02:02:40,260
Maybe not.

3043
02:02:40,260 --> 02:02:41,260
Please.

3044
02:02:41,260 --> 02:02:46,260
It is nice though, if you just, objectively, not just the books though, but like, it does

3045
02:02:46,260 --> 02:02:47,260
look nice, Wolfbane.

3046
02:02:47,260 --> 02:02:51,260
What is the lore reason Fulgrim is going super sane in that image?

3047
02:02:51,260 --> 02:02:52,260
Why is he...

3048
02:02:52,260 --> 02:02:53,260
Oh, this is the summoning.

3049
02:02:53,260 --> 02:02:57,260
This is the summoning of all of the traitors before they go onto the Sieger terror.

3050
02:02:57,260 --> 02:03:00,260
They all mass up Ullanor and they're like, we're gonna do our last push.

3051
02:03:00,260 --> 02:03:01,260
Fair enough.

3052
02:03:01,260 --> 02:03:06,260
So this is like when Logar went into the warp and went, hey, Fulgrim, can you come with

3053
02:03:06,260 --> 02:03:07,260
me?

3054
02:03:07,260 --> 02:03:09,260
Can you stop doing the nasty with the other demons I need you?

3055
02:03:09,260 --> 02:03:10,260
It was like, anyway...

3056
02:03:10,260 --> 02:03:11,260
Just five minutes.

3057
02:03:11,260 --> 02:03:12,260
Also, do you wanna Betray Horus?

3058
02:03:12,260 --> 02:03:13,260
He's very short.

3059
02:03:13,260 --> 02:03:15,260
He's very short in this.

3060
02:03:15,260 --> 02:03:16,260
He's smaller than Horus.

3061
02:03:16,260 --> 02:03:20,260
I mean, he's kind of spooled up and it is like on a hill.

3062
02:03:20,260 --> 02:03:24,260
And you look at like Perderabo, he's behind there and you're like, oh, that's Perty.

3063
02:03:24,260 --> 02:03:25,260
He looks tiny.

3064
02:03:25,260 --> 02:03:30,260
Perderabo goes so hard in this book, as you want to say.

3065
02:03:30,260 --> 02:03:38,260
He beats up demon Angron and like basically just ruins him as a normal Primarch.

3066
02:03:38,260 --> 02:03:40,260
I mean, the lion's done it.

3067
02:03:40,260 --> 02:03:43,260
Crimson Glory donated another $5 saying, see Crimson Glory?

3068
02:03:43,260 --> 02:03:45,260
Strong notice me Senpai vibes.

3069
02:03:45,260 --> 02:03:46,260
Wait a minute.

3070
02:03:46,260 --> 02:03:48,260
I might've drank too much, but still love you guys.

3071
02:03:48,260 --> 02:03:49,260
We love you too.

3072
02:03:49,260 --> 02:03:50,260
We love you Crimson Glory.

3073
02:03:50,260 --> 02:03:51,260
We love you too.

3074
02:03:51,260 --> 02:03:52,260
Putting our children through university.

3075
02:03:52,260 --> 02:03:53,260
Almost there guys.

3076
02:03:53,260 --> 02:03:54,260
Almost there.

3077
02:03:54,260 --> 02:03:55,260
Good looking.

3078
02:03:55,260 --> 02:03:56,260
That one's good.

3079
02:03:56,260 --> 02:03:57,260
It is nice.

3080
02:03:57,260 --> 02:03:58,260
That one's pretty nice.

3081
02:03:58,260 --> 02:04:05,260
It's one of the few examples we actually have of Art of Dorne.

3082
02:04:05,260 --> 02:04:06,260
And his face looks...

3083
02:04:06,260 --> 02:04:09,260
Yeah, this is like when they're just getting the hang of it.

3084
02:04:09,260 --> 02:04:10,260
Like, yeah.

3085
02:04:10,260 --> 02:04:11,260
He should have a mustache.

3086
02:04:11,260 --> 02:04:12,260
That's right, Colin.

3087
02:04:12,260 --> 02:04:13,260
It's cool.

3088
02:04:13,260 --> 02:04:14,260
There's not a lot going on.

3089
02:04:14,260 --> 02:04:17,260
TTS Nailed, Dorne should absolutely have a fucking mustache.

3090
02:04:17,260 --> 02:04:18,260
Yeah.

3091
02:04:18,260 --> 02:04:20,260
I think I'll get one for the scouring one day.

3092
02:04:20,260 --> 02:04:21,260
Titan Death.

3093
02:04:21,260 --> 02:04:22,260
Titan Death.

3094
02:04:22,260 --> 02:04:23,260
This one?

3095
02:04:23,260 --> 02:04:24,260
I lied.

3096
02:04:24,260 --> 02:04:25,260
I think I made a mistake.

3097
02:04:25,260 --> 02:04:27,260
I think that's the book I own.

3098
02:04:27,260 --> 02:04:29,260
That one is honestly...

3099
02:04:29,260 --> 02:04:31,260
That one is so good.

3100
02:04:31,260 --> 02:04:34,260
I think that should go next to the other Titan one.

3101
02:04:34,260 --> 02:04:35,260
Yeah.

3102
02:04:35,260 --> 02:04:37,260
I think above just because it's like...

3103
02:04:37,260 --> 02:04:39,260
It's a walking city.

3104
02:04:39,260 --> 02:04:41,260
It's literally a walking city.

3105
02:04:41,260 --> 02:04:43,260
I wish it was a bit more to the left and down.

3106
02:04:43,260 --> 02:04:45,260
So like, we don't care about this guy.

3107
02:04:45,260 --> 02:04:47,260
We just want to see the big guy.

3108
02:04:47,260 --> 02:04:48,260
Almost perfect.

3109
02:04:48,260 --> 02:04:49,260
I like the little guy.

3110
02:04:49,260 --> 02:04:51,260
I like this little guy.

3111
02:04:51,260 --> 02:04:52,260
The war hound Titan.

3112
02:04:52,260 --> 02:04:53,260
This position.

3113
02:04:53,260 --> 02:04:55,260
Yeah, the war hound Titan, the size of a building.

3114
02:04:55,260 --> 02:04:56,260
You can see the difference.

3115
02:04:56,260 --> 02:04:57,260
Standing off against...

3116
02:04:57,260 --> 02:05:03,260
Also, just for people listening, if you have any suggestions for future tier list ones you want us to do.

3117
02:05:03,260 --> 02:05:05,260
Again, this one was actually...

3118
02:05:05,260 --> 02:05:08,260
This gave one was made from a suggestion from someone.

3119
02:05:08,260 --> 02:05:10,260
So we'd listen to your feedback.

3120
02:05:10,260 --> 02:05:12,260
And we can make some, but we need to know what to do beforehand.

3121
02:05:12,260 --> 02:05:14,260
Because we don't want to spend like an hour again.

3122
02:05:14,260 --> 02:05:17,260
Right. Let's put this together on stream so we have to know before.

3123
02:05:17,260 --> 02:05:19,260
And we've got some ideas we're thinking of.

3124
02:05:19,260 --> 02:05:21,260
Oh, Nix Knox.

3125
02:05:21,260 --> 02:05:22,260
Thank you.

3126
02:05:22,260 --> 02:05:23,260
Thank you very much.

3127
02:05:23,260 --> 02:05:25,260
You guys are my favorite law crimes channel.

3128
02:05:25,260 --> 02:05:26,260
Thank you.

3129
02:05:26,260 --> 02:05:28,260
Of all the law crimes, I think you're top three.

3130
02:05:28,260 --> 02:05:32,260
And by far my favorite channel with your URL.

3131
02:05:32,260 --> 02:05:34,260
Thank you.

3132
02:05:34,260 --> 02:05:35,260
Thank you, sir.

3133
02:05:35,260 --> 02:05:37,260
Thank you very much.

3134
02:05:37,260 --> 02:05:38,260
Last one.

3135
02:05:38,260 --> 02:05:41,260
Janko, but when the church comes to you, I don't know if...

3136
02:05:41,260 --> 02:05:44,260
Joke that might be referencing...

3137
02:05:44,260 --> 02:05:46,260
Because the Titans all have churches on them.

3138
02:05:46,260 --> 02:05:47,260
Notre Dame is angry.

3139
02:05:47,260 --> 02:05:49,260
I'm very coming to get you.

3140
02:05:49,260 --> 02:05:51,260
This one looks weird.

3141
02:05:51,260 --> 02:05:54,260
I think that one ends on a resounding mid tier.

3142
02:05:54,260 --> 02:05:55,260
I like it.

3143
02:05:55,260 --> 02:05:57,260
I can barely see what's going on.

3144
02:05:57,260 --> 02:05:59,260
It's just like kind of green.

3145
02:05:59,260 --> 02:06:00,260
It's green on green.

3146
02:06:00,260 --> 02:06:01,260
That's the trouble with it.

3147
02:06:01,260 --> 02:06:03,260
It's just there's no contrast.

3148
02:06:03,260 --> 02:06:07,260
Did we have a con walking up the stairs one?

3149
02:06:07,260 --> 02:06:08,260
Walking up the stairs.

3150
02:06:08,260 --> 02:06:09,260
Oh, the siege of Terra.

3151
02:06:09,260 --> 02:06:15,260
I know they're all like siege of Terra, which GW and their infinite We Want Money Wisdom made its own mini series.

3152
02:06:15,260 --> 02:06:16,260
Yeah.

3153
02:06:16,260 --> 02:06:21,260
Too fair though that siege of Terra does go is downright one of the better.

3154
02:06:21,260 --> 02:06:25,260
Like they have some of the S tier books in the entire Warhammer series.

3155
02:06:25,260 --> 02:06:30,260
I cheer every time a Primark dies because it's closer to not having to hear about them anymore.

3156
02:06:30,260 --> 02:06:32,260
Even Angel Boy in the last one.

3157
02:06:32,260 --> 02:06:33,260
Squigged here with...

3158
02:06:33,260 --> 02:06:35,260
Yeah, I don't care about Syngwineus.

3159
02:06:35,260 --> 02:06:36,260
That's a good one.

3160
02:06:36,260 --> 02:06:39,260
I've said that on the channel before.

3161
02:06:39,260 --> 02:06:43,260
I'm going to write down the Squigged tier list every night before I go to bed.

3162
02:06:43,260 --> 02:06:44,260
I'm going to cheer.

3163
02:06:44,260 --> 02:06:49,260
I will stream and cheer when he finally gets his head cut off.

3164
02:06:49,260 --> 02:06:50,260
You're going to make me cry.

3165
02:06:50,260 --> 02:06:52,260
I know that's not what happened.

3166
02:06:52,260 --> 02:06:53,260
No.

3167
02:06:53,260 --> 02:06:54,260
It's so sad though.

3168
02:06:54,260 --> 02:06:56,260
It's actually cripplingly sad.

3169
02:06:56,260 --> 02:06:57,260
Why?

3170
02:06:57,260 --> 02:06:58,260
Because Perfect Boy died?

3171
02:06:58,260 --> 02:06:59,260
Good for him.

3172
02:06:59,260 --> 02:07:00,260
Good for him.

3173
02:07:00,260 --> 02:07:02,260
No, it's just like the way he is, his core.

3174
02:07:02,260 --> 02:07:08,260
Honestly, ironically, I'm very glad that Ferris Manus died as someone who likes Iron Hand stuff.

3175
02:07:08,260 --> 02:07:10,260
Because it's the best thing that ever happened to them in terms of lore.

3176
02:07:10,260 --> 02:07:12,260
It's up there, entire problems.

3177
02:07:12,260 --> 02:07:13,260
Fantastic.

3178
02:07:13,260 --> 02:07:14,260
I get sadder when I...

3179
02:07:14,260 --> 02:07:15,260
Oh, sorry.

3180
02:07:15,260 --> 02:07:22,260
The thing that still haunts me about it is the bit where they describe in the book his basically headless corpse.

3181
02:07:22,260 --> 02:07:25,260
And then they all start picketing at his dead body.

3182
02:07:25,260 --> 02:07:26,260
I still think of that.

3183
02:07:26,260 --> 02:07:31,260
Even that still to me is like, Jesus Christ, you went a bit far there, mate.

3184
02:07:31,260 --> 02:07:35,260
I mean, you can cut his head off, but leave his corpse alone, literally cutting off bits for trophies.

3185
02:07:35,260 --> 02:07:38,260
And it's like fucking flop on the floor in front of him.

3186
02:07:38,260 --> 02:07:41,260
It's like, leave Ferris's body alone.

3187
02:07:41,260 --> 02:07:47,260
Tom Warren said, I think they're my least favorite channel, Named War Crimes.

3188
02:07:47,260 --> 02:07:48,260
Yeah.

3189
02:07:48,260 --> 02:07:56,260
Look, I get sadder when I let a Marine die in a Halo game than I do when I hear about fucking Demi-God with daddy issues dying.

3190
02:07:56,260 --> 02:07:58,260
You're my second favorite lore crime channel.

3191
02:07:58,260 --> 02:07:59,260
Thanks, buddy.

3192
02:07:59,260 --> 02:08:00,260
Thank you.

3193
02:08:00,260 --> 02:08:01,260
Oh, my God.

3194
02:08:01,260 --> 02:08:02,260
Someone says that.

3195
02:08:02,260 --> 02:08:03,260
I cry every time the Elder get a book.

3196
02:08:03,260 --> 02:08:04,260
My cheeks are very dry.

3197
02:08:04,260 --> 02:08:05,260
Thank you, Nick's nuts.

3198
02:08:05,260 --> 02:08:08,260
His tear ducts are just disappearing.

3199
02:08:08,260 --> 02:08:12,260
Have you read any of the Eldar books, Colin?

3200
02:08:12,260 --> 02:08:13,260
No.

3201
02:08:13,260 --> 02:08:16,260
None of them, even the Magic of Eldar enjoy it.

3202
02:08:16,260 --> 02:08:18,260
The Path books are apparently really good.

3203
02:08:18,260 --> 02:08:21,260
The Path of the War, the Path of the Outcast.

3204
02:08:21,260 --> 02:08:23,260
I really want to read them as well.

3205
02:08:23,260 --> 02:08:24,260
I own the Path of the Outcast.

3206
02:08:24,260 --> 02:08:25,260
I need to get to it.

3207
02:08:25,260 --> 02:08:31,260
I did get a collection of Xenos drama books, so I'm assuming there's an Eldar one in there.

3208
02:08:31,260 --> 02:08:33,260
I'll have to check what it is at some point.

3209
02:08:33,260 --> 02:08:36,260
The Path of the Archon has lots of vect.

3210
02:08:36,260 --> 02:08:40,260
Like the books actually have vect in it, which is good.

3211
02:08:40,260 --> 02:08:44,260
I feel like I've said that, not even here, just on my own channel.

3212
02:08:44,260 --> 02:08:47,260
I like doing surface level stuff because it's easy to digest.

3213
02:08:47,260 --> 02:08:49,260
It's fun to talk about.

3214
02:08:49,260 --> 02:08:51,260
No one makes a connection.

3215
02:08:51,260 --> 02:08:56,260
I just like talking about the cool stuff.

3216
02:08:56,260 --> 02:09:01,260
So man doesn't watch movies or read books.

3217
02:09:01,260 --> 02:09:03,260
What media does it?

3218
02:09:03,260 --> 02:09:04,260
Is it just games at this point?

3219
02:09:04,260 --> 02:09:05,260
No.

3220
02:09:05,260 --> 02:09:06,260
I love games.

3221
02:09:06,260 --> 02:09:11,260
That's why I wish there were more good Warhammer games, because I talk about those a lot specifically.

3222
02:09:11,260 --> 02:09:18,260
I feel more involved because I'm the one doing it, if that makes sense.

3223
02:09:18,260 --> 02:09:20,260
Although I don't know.

3224
02:09:20,260 --> 02:09:25,260
Like I said, some I dive into, like Gottrick and Felix, Caiaphas, Cain.

3225
02:09:25,260 --> 02:09:26,260
I read all those.

3226
02:09:26,260 --> 02:09:27,260
Oh good.

3227
02:09:27,260 --> 02:09:28,260
Yeah, all good.

3228
02:09:28,260 --> 02:09:31,260
As a ton of recording as well.

3229
02:09:31,260 --> 02:09:33,260
Space Marine 2.

3230
02:09:33,260 --> 02:09:34,260
Delayed.

3231
02:09:34,260 --> 02:09:35,260
I knew it.

3232
02:09:35,260 --> 02:09:36,260
I called it too.

3233
02:09:36,260 --> 02:09:40,260
To second half of 2024, which means from July of the Year.

3234
02:09:40,260 --> 02:09:41,260
Let them.

3235
02:09:41,260 --> 02:09:43,260
As long as it's good, I don't mind if they delay.

3236
02:09:43,260 --> 02:09:44,260
Yeah, no.

3237
02:09:44,260 --> 02:09:48,260
I mean, at this point with all the times this should have happened, delay it.

3238
02:09:48,260 --> 02:09:54,260
I'm sure me and Eli were saying a while ago before a stream, like they said quarter, fourth

3239
02:09:54,260 --> 02:09:59,260
quarter of 2023, like we're getting pretty thin on this quarter.

3240
02:09:59,260 --> 02:10:01,260
Yeah, seriously.

3241
02:10:01,260 --> 02:10:02,260
Yeah.

3242
02:10:02,260 --> 02:10:04,260
I mean, that and Dune both delayed.

3243
02:10:04,260 --> 02:10:05,260
Oh yeah.

3244
02:10:05,260 --> 02:10:06,260
I don't know.

3245
02:10:06,260 --> 02:10:07,260
That was the writer's strike.

3246
02:10:07,260 --> 02:10:13,260
Like, yeah, I'm like, I mean, I don't, I think I think I'm like, I'm gagging for the movie

3247
02:10:13,260 --> 02:10:15,260
or like the game choice.

3248
02:10:15,260 --> 02:10:17,260
I'm just looking forward to it.

3249
02:10:17,260 --> 02:10:20,260
I do hope, I hope my boys and it's Thousand Sons.

3250
02:10:20,260 --> 02:10:25,260
There's been some images leaked on about Thousand Sons being in the game.

3251
02:10:25,260 --> 02:10:27,260
So that'll be cool.

3252
02:10:27,260 --> 02:10:31,260
Have you seen that new model from the Horus Heresy era?

3253
02:10:31,260 --> 02:10:32,260
Yeah.

3254
02:10:32,260 --> 02:10:36,260
Again, as a recording, there's a new Horus Heresy Thousand Sons model.

3255
02:10:36,260 --> 02:10:37,260
It's not that good though.

3256
02:10:37,260 --> 02:10:38,260
Where is it Colin?

3257
02:10:38,260 --> 02:10:40,260
Chad is going off right now.

3258
02:10:40,260 --> 02:10:42,260
We got some good ones.

3259
02:10:42,260 --> 02:10:44,260
We got an epic, cool, awesome Goblin Guy reel.

3260
02:10:44,260 --> 02:10:50,260
He's backspace breeding too, he's like the ERB tier list and Garen on his dick.

3261
02:10:50,260 --> 02:10:52,260
Angry Homunculus.

3262
02:10:52,260 --> 02:10:53,260
They want you to play Rogue Trader.

3263
02:10:53,260 --> 02:10:57,260
I hate CRPGs, so that one's already out.

3264
02:10:57,260 --> 02:11:02,260
Tier list of Baratheast Toast.

3265
02:11:02,260 --> 02:11:05,260
S, S, all the way across.

3266
02:11:05,260 --> 02:11:10,260
One of them's a C-tip for the movie.

3267
02:11:10,260 --> 02:11:12,260
Jeez, dude.

3268
02:11:12,260 --> 02:11:20,260
Again, as a time recording, there's a new Thousand Sons Horus Heresy specific model.

3269
02:11:20,260 --> 02:11:22,260
It's all right.

3270
02:11:22,260 --> 02:11:25,260
It's not as cool as the White Scar one that came out the other week.

3271
02:11:25,260 --> 02:11:27,260
It's okay.

3272
02:11:27,260 --> 02:11:29,260
Again, it's a problem.

3273
02:11:29,260 --> 02:11:30,260
I have a...

3274
02:11:30,260 --> 02:11:38,260
Because I play Thousand Sons and soon, World Eaters, and bro, I need more.

3275
02:11:38,260 --> 02:11:40,260
I need so many more.

3276
02:11:40,260 --> 02:11:42,260
Give us the option.

3277
02:11:42,260 --> 02:11:49,260
I don't know what edition it was, you might know Eli, but you could not bring in demons as allies, but actually as functioning members.

3278
02:11:49,260 --> 02:11:51,260
Yeah, that was good, like seventh edition.

3279
02:11:51,260 --> 02:11:53,260
That would be so much cooler.

3280
02:11:53,260 --> 02:11:59,260
If I could use Cavalistic Rituals with some demon characters.

3281
02:11:59,260 --> 02:12:04,260
There was a whole summoning Psychic Discipline that you could do.

3282
02:12:04,260 --> 02:12:07,260
It was getting really OP though, so they took it out.

3283
02:12:07,260 --> 02:12:11,260
You could just summon free models to the table.

3284
02:12:11,260 --> 02:12:21,260
But I want to at some point just randomly bring Kyros Fateweaver to the table, and then also a Lord of Change, and then Magnus, and then just send him the bird flock.

3285
02:12:21,260 --> 02:12:25,260
Are there even ally rules in 10th edition? Can you do that?

3286
02:12:25,260 --> 02:12:29,260
You can bring them in as allies, but they don't get access to your faction rule.

3287
02:12:29,260 --> 02:12:41,260
If you're playing Deathguard, your faction rule is basically you get a sticky objective, and then you can spread a debuff through those units.

3288
02:12:41,260 --> 02:12:49,260
So for Deathguard, as having an insanely crappy faction rule and boring as hell, you can bring in allies, it's fine.

3289
02:12:49,260 --> 02:12:52,260
But they're not as cheap as your mainline stuff.

3290
02:12:52,260 --> 02:13:03,260
But Thousand Sons, if you want to bring in stuff, they always say bring in blue scribes and the changeling, as lone operative characters, to basically make sure your opponent's having less fun.

3291
02:13:03,260 --> 02:13:14,260
Because the changeling basically you can stop someone shooting you for a random time, just basically stop them shooting the entire phase, which is fine.

3292
02:13:14,260 --> 02:13:18,260
It's like an Iron Hands army, just like, I'm just bringing in a monolith as my ally. Why not?

3293
02:13:18,260 --> 02:13:33,260
Mike P5-830 says, I guess it's Aaron Dempsky, Bowden books are really good, but they are weighed down by truly stupid plot lines.

3294
02:13:33,260 --> 02:13:39,260
I mean, Warhammer is itself a stupid plot line.

3295
02:13:39,260 --> 02:13:42,260
ADG is one of the best writers as well.

3296
02:13:42,260 --> 02:13:51,260
He's the guy who wrote, people listening, like First Heretic, Betrayer, and then the Knight Lords trilogy.

3297
02:13:51,260 --> 02:13:55,260
Some of the books people actually go like, oh, that's pretty good.

3298
02:13:55,260 --> 02:14:02,260
I think a few of the Warhammer people on YouTube said he's fallen off a bit recently. I feel bad. He still did a good book.

3299
02:14:02,260 --> 02:14:12,260
Again, we just want, as much as I think Colin does it right, there's so much horror and heresy, and there needs to be a 40k.

3300
02:14:12,260 --> 02:14:19,260
But there needs to be a 40k, they tried to do it with, what was that series they're basically wrapping up now?

3301
02:14:19,260 --> 02:14:20,260
Dawn of Fire?

3302
02:14:20,260 --> 02:14:21,260
Dawn of Fire.

3303
02:14:21,260 --> 02:14:23,260
And they had signs of awakening and some other stuff like that.

3304
02:14:23,260 --> 02:14:34,260
They've tried to do some stuff with tying it in as a full narrative. I guess the real problem with 40k is they basically are releasing models.

3305
02:14:34,260 --> 02:14:40,260
So they basically need to create a storyline so we can release them, basically make the models.

3306
02:14:40,260 --> 02:14:45,260
Again, I wish there was something like that where, again, it could tie in lots of the...

3307
02:14:45,260 --> 02:14:56,260
Like, the silent king is here. The dude is here. Why is he not in a fucking novel and in a huge series?

3308
02:14:56,260 --> 02:14:59,260
The Unari are here. They are...

3309
02:14:59,260 --> 02:15:02,260
They were in a planned trilogy that sucked.

3310
02:15:02,260 --> 02:15:07,260
As someone who's just done a month of Necron content, I was like, oh, here he comes.

3311
02:15:07,260 --> 02:15:13,260
And it was very well done. The amount of people were like, oh, I hope we get an ImoTech versus Sarek Civil War.

3312
02:15:13,260 --> 02:15:19,260
I was like, yeah, that'd be great. But there's like five books for Necrons and I've gone through them now.

3313
02:15:19,260 --> 02:15:21,260
And they're all good, though.

3314
02:15:21,260 --> 02:15:27,260
Thank you also, Chris and Glory. He does Knight Lords quiz when. That's a good idea, actually.

3315
02:15:27,260 --> 02:15:33,260
I'm actually doing Knight Lords myself not too long in the future, so I might have some Knight Lords in mind.

3316
02:15:33,260 --> 02:15:34,260
Go ahead, Con.

3317
02:15:34,260 --> 02:15:43,260
It's because Space Marines and the Imperium are such a large portion of it that is... and I'll leave it as much as I'll bitch about it.

3318
02:15:43,260 --> 02:15:46,260
I completely understand why they make so many books focused around it.

3319
02:15:46,260 --> 02:15:53,260
It's because the player base for those armies are like a third of the game, like of the player base minimum.

3320
02:15:53,260 --> 02:15:58,260
Even like not even counting people that have like the Imperium army and the Xenos army.

3321
02:15:58,260 --> 02:16:04,260
It's like Imperium is such a large portion of the game player base that...

3322
02:16:04,260 --> 02:16:13,260
With like the Dawn of Fire books, for example, there's one of them where it's like here's a custodian and a Mordian guard and it's like, oh, we can have all these different factions.

3323
02:16:13,260 --> 02:16:17,260
It's like, we'll put them all in one book and then you get a slice each.

3324
02:16:17,260 --> 02:16:21,260
But it's just a shame. It's like, oh, do we have any Mordian guard models?

3325
02:16:21,260 --> 02:16:22,260
No, no.

3326
02:16:22,260 --> 02:16:25,260
We used to. The GW killed everything that was in Cadia.

3327
02:16:25,260 --> 02:16:27,260
Yeah.

3328
02:16:27,260 --> 02:16:31,260
To be fair, someone said like the Cadia novel that just...

3329
02:16:31,260 --> 02:16:36,260
They actually did a full of Cadia novel recently and people said like that one.

3330
02:16:36,260 --> 02:16:41,260
It's just God, but apparently it's actually like an S tier.

3331
02:16:41,260 --> 02:16:49,260
But I will say as well, just a recent example of the Fabius Biel versus Bersaria's Kull novel.

3332
02:16:49,260 --> 02:16:57,260
That's such a good opportunity to essentially, you want to bring in other factions or characters like all of these.

3333
02:16:57,260 --> 02:17:00,260
It's a winning formula, like smashing things together.

3334
02:17:00,260 --> 02:17:04,260
I do want to see almost like we've done here, like a versus thing.

3335
02:17:04,260 --> 02:17:07,260
Where is my Ariamon versus Mephiston?

3336
02:17:07,260 --> 02:17:17,260
For no lore reason other than it would just absolutely rock my entire world if the most powerful sorcerers or psychers in the entire setting were there.

3337
02:17:17,260 --> 02:17:19,260
Or even then, you know...

3338
02:17:19,260 --> 02:17:22,260
I just want to see a Mechanicus and Ironhand duo thing.

3339
02:17:22,260 --> 02:17:23,260
Just have the Ironhand.

3340
02:17:23,260 --> 02:17:24,260
That's the same thing.

3341
02:17:24,260 --> 02:17:29,260
That's why it would be like compilating, but then you could also have like what are the differences and you could have a bit of fun with that.

3342
02:17:29,260 --> 02:17:35,260
And it's like people, we've just had that big spindly Mechanicus sniper model and they're doing the launch.

3343
02:17:35,260 --> 02:17:37,260
Could we just like put a few Ironhands in as well?

3344
02:17:37,260 --> 02:17:39,260
I love that goofy thing. I don't care what anyone says.

3345
02:17:39,260 --> 02:17:44,260
Yeah, he could be the main character. Stiltsmok Torbjorn.

3346
02:17:44,260 --> 02:17:51,260
Someone said, big Peter Dinklage bottom left.

3347
02:17:51,260 --> 02:17:55,260
It's Andy. Andy's bottom left.

3348
02:17:55,260 --> 02:17:58,260
Okay, that is funny.

3349
02:17:58,260 --> 02:17:59,260
You want tier list ideas?

3350
02:17:59,260 --> 02:18:05,260
One of games, Necron characters, one of gods, minor Xenos, lore crime episodes.

3351
02:18:05,260 --> 02:18:08,260
Lore crimes episodes? That is funny.

3352
02:18:08,260 --> 02:18:11,260
Can you imagine if we're like, yeah, this is all F tier.

3353
02:18:11,260 --> 02:18:13,260
Yeah, garbage.

3354
02:18:13,260 --> 02:18:16,260
I hate it when I talked on screen.

3355
02:18:16,260 --> 02:18:18,260
I don't talk too much.

3356
02:18:18,260 --> 02:18:21,260
I would go off on a Warhammer God tier list, bro.

3357
02:18:21,260 --> 02:18:25,260
You fucking would not shut me up about Sigmar.

3358
02:18:25,260 --> 02:18:28,260
Or gods, like just even fantasy as well.

3359
02:18:28,260 --> 02:18:30,260
I mean, I think it should be.

3360
02:18:30,260 --> 02:18:31,260
That's good I did.

3361
02:18:31,260 --> 02:18:39,260
Especially because in 40k there's not many gods doing stuff compared to fantasy where it's a whole pantheon.

3362
02:18:39,260 --> 02:18:45,260
If there's all the pantheon as well, you have to do like Two and King pantheon, Eldar pantheon.

3363
02:18:45,260 --> 02:18:49,260
Oh, Eldar? Sorry, she's me. Hi Elven pantheon.

3364
02:18:49,260 --> 02:18:52,260
That was a close one there.

3365
02:18:52,260 --> 02:18:54,260
I think just finishing on the-

3366
02:18:54,260 --> 02:18:56,260
I'm gonna guess.

3367
02:18:56,260 --> 02:19:01,260
Yeah, it's pretty much his own tier, which is like ego. Ego tier.

3368
02:19:01,260 --> 02:19:05,260
I think Jido, they just need more things like just smashing.

3369
02:19:05,260 --> 02:19:12,260
Again, there was a slight thing, people complained when Ragnar Blackmane randomly fought Ghaz'Kul.

3370
02:19:12,260 --> 02:19:15,260
That's like a bad idea, like example of it.

3371
02:19:15,260 --> 02:19:17,260
Just where it's like they have no prior history.

3372
02:19:17,260 --> 02:19:24,260
But even then, Belisarius Kul and Fabius Bael having probably never met, but again, they're in that same kind of niche.

3373
02:19:24,260 --> 02:19:25,260
Is that a book out?

3374
02:19:25,260 --> 02:19:26,260
Yeah, it's out.

3375
02:19:26,260 --> 02:19:27,260
I think I need to read it.

3376
02:19:27,260 --> 02:19:28,260
People loved it.

3377
02:19:28,260 --> 02:19:33,260
It's always good to have a story where it's like to the enemy of my enemies, my friend's story.

3378
02:19:33,260 --> 02:19:38,260
I'd love to see a white scar teaming up with the Drukhari to face the Necrons.

3379
02:19:38,260 --> 02:19:39,260
Tyranids or something.

3380
02:19:39,260 --> 02:19:41,260
Or Tyranids. It's like, right, I hate you.

3381
02:19:41,260 --> 02:19:44,260
Kind of what I was saying with the Eldar and the Drukhari, the Krapos and the Eldar.

3382
02:19:44,260 --> 02:19:51,260
If you had them like, well, we have to- it's 40k, we have to survive somehow. Team up whoever who would hate each other.

3383
02:19:51,260 --> 02:19:55,260
There used to be a lot more of that teaming up stuff, I feel like. Not so much anymore.

3384
02:19:55,260 --> 02:20:01,260
Well, they've only done it since the psychic awakening fall of Cadia in recent memory.

3385
02:20:01,260 --> 02:20:07,260
But even that was kind of just- it's so annoying that the Eldar are such a dead thread for now.

3386
02:20:07,260 --> 02:20:09,260
And I don't think they've got any ideas.

3387
02:20:09,260 --> 02:20:13,260
They're humanity's number one ally. As much as people hate hearing that, it's true.

3388
02:20:13,260 --> 02:20:20,260
I think there's like- how about we have a story where it's like the Imperium and the Eldar are just like dunking on squats for fun.

3389
02:20:20,260 --> 02:20:22,260
Just like, oh, no! No!

3390
02:20:22,260 --> 02:20:23,260
Give them a book.

3391
02:20:23,260 --> 02:20:25,260
Leave the leaves alone.

3392
02:20:25,260 --> 02:20:33,260
That's cool. And it's just them doing the JoJo-me of them stamping on and then all of a sudden like, oh, the mechanic is- fucking stamping on the foot.

3393
02:20:33,260 --> 02:20:35,260
Prolief the squats, B.

3394
02:20:35,260 --> 02:20:45,260
I mean, I even think it just- an actual team up that did happen is it- not the 13th Black Crusade, but the 12th Black Crusade was basically Eldar and Imperium versus Abaddon.

3395
02:20:45,260 --> 02:20:53,260
And that's just like a, you know, juicy thread. Like, go for it. I don't- and also Tyranids now.

3396
02:20:53,260 --> 02:20:58,260
Tyranids and Necrons should be like- someone and Necrons versus Tyranids should be a thing.

3397
02:20:58,260 --> 02:21:05,260
Vulcan, Hastan, and Trazin looking for the same artifact and at the end having to fight over the artifact of Vulcan. That'd be a fun story.

3398
02:21:05,260 --> 02:21:07,260
I don't think they're on the same power level.

3399
02:21:07,260 --> 02:21:14,260
Well, Hastan's bested him twice in combat because he was like, can I have your spear? He's like, no, fuck off. And he beat him off.

3400
02:21:14,260 --> 02:21:16,260
And then he gave him the spear tip first.

3401
02:21:16,260 --> 02:21:22,260
Yeah, yeah. But you could have a story about, we found one of the last few artifacts and Trazin's like, well,

3402
02:21:22,260 --> 02:21:31,260
I've got pocket dimensions. You could go through that high fleet with your 20 men or make an arrangement.

3403
02:21:31,260 --> 02:21:33,260
Give me your entire collection.

3404
02:21:33,260 --> 02:21:37,260
Or have a third party involved. You could have loads of fun with it.

3405
02:21:37,260 --> 02:21:42,260
Commander Cosis brings up a good point. They brought back an entire faction with no book.

3406
02:21:42,260 --> 02:21:43,260
Yeah.

3407
02:21:43,260 --> 02:21:45,260
It is truly unbelievable what they did.

3408
02:21:45,260 --> 02:21:51,260
I mean, I did watch Arthur's video recently talking about how much he loves the faction, but he's like, they released it right at the end of an edition.

3409
02:21:51,260 --> 02:21:54,260
With no law and now there are no models.

3410
02:21:54,260 --> 02:21:57,260
And it's like, yeah, great. They have less rules.

3411
02:21:57,260 --> 02:22:01,260
Just get Power Miners Lego. Just get Power Miners Lego and you'll be happy, okay?

3412
02:22:01,260 --> 02:22:06,260
The Vatan are a third of an army being generous.

3413
02:22:06,260 --> 02:22:12,260
God, dude, it actually makes me like, we should probably do a tier list of like things that make us rage.

3414
02:22:12,260 --> 02:22:13,260
GW position tier list.

3415
02:22:13,260 --> 02:22:23,260
Or the most rage worthy topics in Warhammer because honestly, Leagues of Votan, I would genuinely wipe it from the entire existence.

3416
02:22:23,260 --> 02:22:31,260
I was holding onto this and I'm going, you know what, you said it earlier. I think, Eli, you said it, I think, like if it weren't for Deep Rock Galactic, no one would like them.

3417
02:22:31,260 --> 02:22:36,260
But you know what? That doesn't matter because we don't live in a world where there's no Deep Rock Galactic.

3418
02:22:36,260 --> 02:22:40,260
We live in that world. Therefore, the squats can happen.

3419
02:22:40,260 --> 02:22:53,260
I think it was like, who's that? Boris Dorif says, can Eldar simulate all of them being dead by entering the Webway all at once?

3420
02:22:53,260 --> 02:23:00,260
So the galaxy at large, so to the galaxy at large, there are no more Eldar allowing the birth of Yenid.

3421
02:23:00,260 --> 02:23:03,260
Oh, it wasn't like the fulfillment of the prophecy.

3422
02:23:03,260 --> 02:23:11,260
Well, the thing is it needs their souls to power Eniad up. So them going into the Webway would just be like, well, they all left. All right.

3423
02:23:11,260 --> 02:23:13,260
They're not dead. They're just hiding.

3424
02:23:13,260 --> 02:23:21,260
The Unari lore is that half the faction just wants to genocide the entire race of Eldar, right? And wake up the AI.

3425
02:23:21,260 --> 02:23:29,260
It was like the initial prophecy was like when the Eldar all finally die, all the Infinity Circuits will coalesce Eniad.

3426
02:23:29,260 --> 02:23:39,260
Then Eldrad tried to speed run it by just getting a bunch of super powerful like souls of warlocks and farseers and whatnot and bringing them to go Haria.

3427
02:23:39,260 --> 02:23:45,260
And it would have, you know, it would have just straight up worked. Unfortunately, that would have meant an Eldar W.

3428
02:23:45,260 --> 02:23:51,260
And so watch Captain Artemis swooped in with the absolute galaxy brain.

3429
02:23:51,260 --> 02:23:53,260
With the RKO.

3430
02:23:53,260 --> 02:24:03,260
Yeah, I could I could imagine even like a story like what if we travel through the the Ghost Wind, which is like the twice dead king thing where it's where all the flayed ones live in that dimension.

3431
02:24:03,260 --> 02:24:06,260
Travel through that with the Eldar and see a cut off.

3432
02:24:06,260 --> 02:24:21,260
Because there was a really cool story in the Hammer and Bolter series interrogator where, spoilers before anyone spots it, the Inquisitor basically wants to corral so many psychers and harvest them that it basically makes a psychic scream, which kills all psychers in the galaxy,

3433
02:24:21,260 --> 02:24:27,260
which then starves chaos completely. But then the characters like, no, that's a bit mean.

3434
02:24:27,260 --> 02:24:30,260
Because you'd kill the Emperor.

3435
02:24:30,260 --> 02:24:35,260
Yeah, possibly. But it's like, oh, that was like a really interesting idea. But yeah.

3436
02:24:35,260 --> 02:24:42,260
Honestly, Eldar need to be given to someone like one of the better. No, one of the better authors who.

3437
02:24:42,260 --> 02:24:45,260
Phil Kelly needs to write Eldar lore again.

3438
02:24:45,260 --> 02:24:46,260
He does. He does do good.

3439
02:24:46,260 --> 02:24:52,260
Far Sight Tao stuff. We need to have this from Halo book fame to write some stories with 40K.

3440
02:24:52,260 --> 02:24:53,260
No, no, no.

3441
02:24:53,260 --> 02:24:55,260
Phil Kelly wrote the old Eldar Codex.

3442
02:24:55,260 --> 02:24:56,260
I don't think we need Karen Travis.

3443
02:24:56,260 --> 02:24:57,260
And it was a good codex.

3444
02:24:57,260 --> 02:25:04,260
Kilo 5 was good if you ignore the way that it. I like the Kilo 5 trilogy she wrote. I love the Kilo 5 team.

3445
02:25:04,260 --> 02:25:10,260
I do not like many of the changes Karen Travis has made to Halo lore.

3446
02:25:10,260 --> 02:25:11,260
Oh.

3447
02:25:11,260 --> 02:25:15,260
Such as portraying Oni as being morally correct.

3448
02:25:15,260 --> 02:25:21,260
Margaret Perinkowski is a fucking monster.

3449
02:25:21,260 --> 02:25:26,260
And so is Sarah Osmond. But they're not addressing it because Sarah and Travis or Sarah and Trev.

3450
02:25:26,260 --> 02:25:28,260
Karen Travis likes those characters she made.

3451
02:25:28,260 --> 02:25:34,260
Also, they made Katherine Halsey even worse. Look, I hate her. I've hated her since Reach when she badmouthed Carter.

3452
02:25:34,260 --> 02:25:47,260
Karen Travis turned her from a bit of a standoffish lady who was aware of the monstrous things she was doing into female scientist Hitler.

3453
02:25:47,260 --> 02:25:49,260
Basically.

3454
02:25:49,260 --> 02:25:52,260
They're actually for putting down rebellions.

3455
02:25:52,260 --> 02:25:54,260
They are.

3456
02:25:54,260 --> 02:26:05,260
I think a lot of these, particularly with who's the author now who basically did a lot of the brutal cunning and the orc stuff.

3457
02:26:05,260 --> 02:26:06,260
Mike Brooks.

3458
02:26:06,260 --> 02:26:09,260
Mike Brooks. He did the Lion novel.

3459
02:26:09,260 --> 02:26:11,260
Where did he come from?

3460
02:26:11,260 --> 02:26:16,260
He's done a few other books that have been pretty good to be fair.

3461
02:26:16,260 --> 02:26:24,260
I can like someone just needs to be given the Eldar and let them cook. Just let them cook with it.

3462
02:26:24,260 --> 02:26:33,260
Give someone the Eldar. Give someone the Votan. Give someone the Necrons. Give someone Gene Steelers, I guess.

3463
02:26:33,260 --> 02:26:37,260
Like they've already had a good book recently. But where do you go now? It's tricky.

3464
02:26:37,260 --> 02:26:48,260
I was just I was just say one last bit. It reminds me of like how you know like so many different different universes.

3465
02:26:48,260 --> 02:26:52,260
The thing that really separates a lot of things is kind of the actual world building around it.

3466
02:26:52,260 --> 02:26:59,260
It was a good story with the world building stuff. The Eldar, you have everything you need because the world building has been done for you.

3467
02:26:59,260 --> 02:27:04,260
You just need to let it fly. And I think someone needs to be given a chance basically.

3468
02:27:04,260 --> 02:27:06,260
Insolent heroist.

3469
02:27:06,260 --> 02:27:08,260
Isn't it all the same?

3470
02:27:08,260 --> 02:27:13,260
Fucking Lantus, Scrubs. Just get an insulin pump.

3471
02:27:13,260 --> 02:27:18,260
I don't mean that. People have the insulin they have for a reason.

3472
02:27:18,260 --> 02:27:26,260
I would say there's a short story I think called What It's Like by ABD or ADB. I fucked it up.

3473
02:27:26,260 --> 02:27:27,260
Arrendance about it.

3474
02:27:27,260 --> 02:27:38,260
ADB. Yeah. It's just called like What It's Like. And it's just like this overview of what it's like to be just a random chaos warband in the Eye of Terror.

3475
02:27:38,260 --> 02:27:45,260
It's like maybe you make an alliance. Maybe you don't. Maybe the alliance lasts five minutes. Maybe it lasts 500 years. Maybe you betray.

3476
02:27:45,260 --> 02:27:51,260
Maybe you land on your home base and some like Eldar ghost god because the Eye of Terror is their old homeworlds murdered everyone while you were gone.

3477
02:27:51,260 --> 02:27:58,260
You're like, now what? It's also that problem with space marine stuff. It's always the primogenitor chapters that get all the treatment.

3478
02:27:58,260 --> 02:28:03,260
There's so many fun ideas you could have. I've just been working on my Blood Angel stuff for next month.

3479
02:28:03,260 --> 02:28:10,260
The angels in Carmine, they just like they don't stop going to war. And that whole thing is they never replenish because they're like we just keep going to war.

3480
02:28:10,260 --> 02:28:14,260
Well, that's a fun idea you could do a story about. But they're not blood angels.

3481
02:28:14,260 --> 02:28:17,260
So who cares? They're not fleshed out.

3482
02:28:17,260 --> 02:28:24,260
But if you go ahead, you first. We have an Eldar Lost tier list.

3483
02:28:24,260 --> 02:28:31,260
Oh, as in all the losses. Yeah, every time they've lost. So you want an Eldar Lord tier list.

3484
02:28:31,260 --> 02:28:41,260
But I think like a whole book about that ADDB concept, like that little short story made because you can include, you know, make it about a chaos warband.

3485
02:28:41,260 --> 02:28:50,260
And you can kind of give every faction their like do like, you know, because since you could set it like before the great rift, be like, hey, this is what it was like for 10,000 years.

3486
02:28:50,260 --> 02:28:55,260
You can give obviously a generic chaos space marine warband at some time to shine.

3487
02:28:55,260 --> 02:29:00,260
Or it's like, this is what it's like for the people who aren't the big boys fighting their 10,000 year long grudge.

3488
02:29:00,260 --> 02:29:05,260
You can do a story about the labor serfs observing a chaos warband. That'd be fun.

3489
02:29:05,260 --> 02:29:14,260
Oh, yeah. He's like vulnerable and has like no stakes. I have to like polish his like sword with eyes on it or he'll guts me.

3490
02:29:14,260 --> 02:29:20,260
Oh, that's a fun premise. And maybe it's like a story from the view of who's Cain's sidekick again.

3491
02:29:20,260 --> 02:29:27,260
The Podrick, basically fellow is the guy who's the blank for Cain and he smells really bad.

3492
02:29:27,260 --> 02:29:29,260
Jürgen's up. Yeah.

3493
02:29:29,260 --> 02:29:32,260
Brain slip. Basically, it's like a book from Jürgen's point of view.

3494
02:29:32,260 --> 02:29:36,260
We got it. Like it'd be cool. Like, I don't know, I keep coming back.

3495
02:29:36,260 --> 02:29:40,260
I don't know that short story. I like these because like you can have, you know, some imperial crusade.

3496
02:29:40,260 --> 02:29:42,260
They've decided needs to go to the eye of terror.

3497
02:29:42,260 --> 02:29:47,260
You can be like, all right, what's it like for the people who aren't fighting this 10,000 year long grudge match?

3498
02:29:47,260 --> 02:29:50,260
Like, just like, why is this? Why do we have to deal with this? You can have them.

3499
02:29:50,260 --> 02:29:53,260
The choice to do an OK job at that.

3500
02:29:53,260 --> 02:29:57,260
I think we've got another Crimson Glory again. Thank you, sir.

3501
02:29:57,260 --> 02:30:03,260
Rage inducing quote, world eaters are just onga bunga units.

3502
02:30:03,260 --> 02:30:08,260
I mean, they are just but onga bunga is fun. Yes.

3503
02:30:08,260 --> 02:30:10,260
Listen, I agree.

3504
02:30:10,260 --> 02:30:17,260
I agree in Total War, Warhammer, because it's an RTS and I can move my stuff around in real time, not tabletop where I go.

3505
02:30:17,260 --> 02:30:22,260
Oh, I made my I made a slight mistake positioning. You know, my entire army's cut in half. Thank you.

3506
02:30:22,260 --> 02:30:33,260
Yeah, I do. I'm going from a tabletop perspective, although it's from the Corn Law is like as soon as they fall to corns, like corruption is basically like character development dies and there's no struggle.

3507
02:30:33,260 --> 02:30:49,260
That's the biggest. Could you imagine like a fun story about like a labor surf in a world eater like vessel and the whole story is about him trying again and again to escape and then having it floated and then trying not to be butchered by the world eaters while also observing them fight.

3508
02:30:49,260 --> 02:30:57,260
That'd be really fun to snap like the world eaters are not the proximal link to a narrative, but they are present throughout the whole thing.

3509
02:30:57,260 --> 02:31:03,260
So you still get to see them a lot. That's why even when they fall, you can have fun stories like still about like corn and whatnot.

3510
02:31:03,260 --> 02:31:10,260
It's just you could have a character who treats the surf with honor, but he's also like ripping people's spleens out.

3511
02:31:10,260 --> 02:31:23,260
You know, that guy is not a good guy, but he has this quality like the nightlords thing like, oh, they have interesting dichotomies and qualities and you could you could go through that but we need to start writing warhammer books.

3512
02:31:23,260 --> 02:31:25,260
That's all I do.

3513
02:31:25,260 --> 02:31:28,260
Yeah, just more stuff like the old stuff.

3514
02:31:28,260 --> 02:31:42,260
You like and write some of the chaos stuff. How can write his beloved 1000 sons and I and hands stuff and I'll write about their agri world wine who gets captured by the Emperor's children.

3515
02:31:42,260 --> 02:31:44,260
It'll be good fun.

3516
02:31:44,260 --> 02:31:48,260
If I was to write something for warhammer though I think I'd just go for a new faction to be honest.

3517
02:31:48,260 --> 02:32:06,260
I don't want to do something which is essentially meant to be a mirror or something unrepresented in warhammer which I'd love if there was some like lovecraft and God things but then, like the faction they control basically didn't realize it.

3518
02:32:06,260 --> 02:32:19,260
And it's one of those things like, oh, only like a very few people amount like really, oh, we're actually fighting for like weird gods were like chaos like they know they're fighting for chaos, I'd have a thing where it's like, we're fighting for a pantheon, but we didn't rework that out until we got to the upper levels

3519
02:32:19,260 --> 02:32:21,260
it's like kind of like a Scientology thing.

3520
02:32:21,260 --> 02:32:24,260
Yeah, like, and then they go like, well, this is weird.

3521
02:32:24,260 --> 02:32:30,260
There'd be room in like warhammer crime or even horror to do those kind of stories where like, oh, I thought I was following the chaos gods.

3522
02:32:30,260 --> 02:32:33,260
Turns out, it's something worse.

3523
02:32:33,260 --> 02:32:46,260
There's a, there's a weird thing and I wish it was utilizing some version in one of which is, it's in the King in Yellow book which is when someone's infected by the King in Yellow has to his madness.

3524
02:32:46,260 --> 02:33:00,260
They like, there's a there's a one scene in one of the stories, where the guy puts on like a cape and a crown he looks in the mirror and he looks amazing and glorious, but then everyone else sees him wearing like a tin foil hat and like a crappy rug.

3525
02:33:00,260 --> 02:33:11,260
So basically there's a sort of thing where like the people who are in the faction, they perceive themselves to be like essentially like perfect Emperor's children style warriors but everyone else like that guy's literally wearing garbage.

3526
02:33:11,260 --> 02:33:13,260
It's basically Jeans to the cults.

3527
02:33:13,260 --> 02:33:19,260
Kind of in a way, but then, but more like it messes with their perception rather than their ideology.

3528
02:33:19,260 --> 02:33:21,260
It sounds like a flesh eater, flesh eater courts.

3529
02:33:21,260 --> 02:33:23,260
Yeah.

3530
02:33:23,260 --> 02:33:36,260
If I played a just yeah, yeah, we just buy you shrimp just start with usher and that model is so cool. I'm not going to play just see more. If only the age of signal law was cooking.

3531
02:33:36,260 --> 02:33:48,260
I must admit that whole like weird really strongly reminds me of Bioshock to we play as a little sister for a bit and like the pools of blood are like bunches of roses, and all the corpses are angels and they've got wings and everything.

3532
02:33:48,260 --> 02:33:56,260
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly. With the babies with the big lollipops.

3533
02:33:56,260 --> 02:34:11,260
I just love something where like someone is like there's a version of kind of utter madness, not always in like chaos is each in one where it's like you turn to something you know the madness is in the mind, rather than a physical.

3534
02:34:11,260 --> 02:34:22,260
Yeah, I think Genie is kind of do it well we're like, particularly in like these day of ascension isn't it where like at the end they're like oh my god it's so beautiful and then everyone there is like oh my god it's not, you know,

3535
02:34:22,260 --> 02:34:35,260
you could have a world eater who every time he does like a load of butchery he like remember some of his past glories and then eventually it starts to go into a frenzy and then all of a sudden you wake up on another day and he's somewhere else and you could have like a fun story like that.

3536
02:34:35,260 --> 02:34:51,260
I thought be like anyway I'd actually have something to be like for car and the betrayer. I think there should be a story where he like basically, he's given the option to save the soul slash rebirth, or like read back bring back to life, are good tall.

3537
02:34:51,260 --> 02:35:05,260
And that's the sort of thing was like, was him closer to his humanity. Yes, basically fight error character. We'll give them and let them fight error bus again like straight up just let him battle error bus but then in the end he kind of fails and then that's again like the rate,

3538
02:35:05,260 --> 02:35:14,260
like, or in a way, he gets so close to actually bringing back our goal tall, his soul ever, but then his rage is the actual thing that ruins it.

3539
02:35:14,260 --> 02:35:27,260
For some reason my mind went instantly to like scenes going, I can bring him back, but the deal is, you can't kill anyone for a full day and it's the whole day.

3540
02:35:27,260 --> 02:35:32,260
Having like withdrawal of like killing someone just that would be the gimmick. It's like the.

3541
02:35:32,260 --> 02:35:36,260
Thank you again.

3542
02:35:36,260 --> 02:35:53,260
Thank you big angry smash God make monkey. Thank you someone saying Tom Warren saying that ages sigma big turtle got me is retentive and Django for saying you have that ins muck ins mouth.

3543
02:35:53,260 --> 02:36:04,260
I think the guys are good. I said just the last thing I want a day in the life of camera and the same like comedic levels of sky if his cane, which follows like a dark elder.

3544
02:36:04,260 --> 02:36:15,260
I'm wondering how I got here. Yeah, it's like just walking down like avoid the avoid the, you know, the hellions trying to stab you go down to skin labor service skin rip.

3545
02:36:15,260 --> 02:36:21,260
See fellow fell over on the, the wailing human carpet.

3546
02:36:21,260 --> 02:36:29,260
Just something like that where you bring back the goofy levels of such such horror that it wraps around me like this is funny.

3547
02:36:29,260 --> 02:36:42,260
I just, I'm Harry bad time I'm half read that comment that but he said like a world eater, I'm just thought immediately it's like a world eat a blackout and then he was like, you're finally awake.

3548
02:36:42,260 --> 02:36:44,260
Skyrim me.

3549
02:36:44,260 --> 02:37:02,260
And one last announcement completely unrelated anything I brought it up earlier Empire at war has had an update that almost 20 year old game is an update. It's now on a 64 bit engine so you can run it with any amount of mods without exploding on you.

3550
02:37:02,260 --> 02:37:03,260
Nice.

3551
02:37:03,260 --> 02:37:06,260
That's a republic brothers get playing.

3552
02:37:06,260 --> 02:37:18,260
Shout out to hopefully, man play banner Lord for more mods and need to play that game again, but I'm not all odds to fucking release. I want all the world to release.

3553
02:37:18,260 --> 02:37:21,260
Fuck the mod.

3554
02:37:21,260 --> 02:37:27,260
But shout to everyone who mods that game because I couldn't truly be asked here, hopefully one day.

3555
02:37:27,260 --> 02:37:38,260
And with that being said, though, go boys I think that's the end of the stream. Thank you everyone for listening and playing along and playing listening, listening along and not make my reading.

3556
02:37:38,260 --> 02:37:45,260
Thank you guys for the donations well again so much thank you so much is really, we really appreciate it you keep our lights on.

3557
02:37:45,260 --> 02:37:58,260
Very much so.

3558
02:37:58,260 --> 02:38:01,260
Yeah, next time next time.

3559
02:38:01,260 --> 02:38:03,260
Oscar and companions.

3560
02:38:03,260 --> 02:38:06,260
Shout out to

3561
02:38:06,260 --> 02:38:21,260
thank you guys so again thanks so much for listening. I think next time for Taylor's again we'll probably we'll take some of your suggestions into account. And I think our next what's the next iceberg effect I think we're doing

3562
02:38:21,260 --> 02:38:25,260
Necrons lords right it's Necrons all like we might delay it.

3563
02:38:25,260 --> 02:38:41,260
I think we might have already teased up a little bit of God tracking feed. We'll let everyone know what we over Necrons. Yeah, well everyone know what we pick though but again, another one podcast coming, and we'll see you all next time.

3564
02:38:55,260 --> 02:39:14,260
Yeah.