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Ooh, we should be live! Hello everyone!

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Hello!

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It's no crimes.

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God, we're talking about what's old world slander is aggressive right now.

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It's, well, it's not slander, it's GW's production quality slander.

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Ugh, the pain. It's no longer, there's no longer new armies like they promised, Colin.

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Are you happy about that?

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Uh, I'm going to continue coping because they said that there are no plans for them in the near future,

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which means the far future will give me my Cathay, god damn it.

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Oh, they're not going to do Cathay or Kislev?

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No, they both said no.

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Which is wor- there's a Cathay army book out there, they made it for the war.

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Oh my gosh.

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In the grimdark future, there is always a way.

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It's the grimdark right now.

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Yeah, huh.

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Damn.

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Uh, welcome people, this is another episode of Iceberg Law Crimes.

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I should mention this, I actually remember to mention at the beginning, we actually are on Spotify as well,

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so people want to listen to us offline, uh, they can.

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But today we're continuing something we actually haven't talked about in a while,

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but it's a continuation of the Great Crusade and Horus Heresy legions.

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We talked about all the legions before.

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We currently covered nearly, I think nearly about half of them, about, I think about half, yeah.

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God fucking-

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And, don't worry.

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I'm sorry.

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We're kind of, we're grouping together today the Shattered Legion,

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so these are the ones who essentially got sidelined and mid-law, if we weren't lying, in some parts,

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but other ones they got some cool little side-bit character plays, they were just, this is background stuff

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that most people probably haven't learned or followed, so we're going to hopefully explore more of that.

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I do believe, I think we're going to start with the question of the week, though, Colin, that will be interesting.

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Of course, yeah, there's some good ones.

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This is from previous episode on the Eldar Cross, I think.

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Yeah, but thank you, Andy, for having my back in the poll.

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You can see the two reasons the bet's not made right now.

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You assholes.

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But no, the question of the week from the last time, what path would you create for the Eldar?

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There's some interesting ones.

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Let me go with, you know, this one's a nice and simple one.

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At PinkyPrime7877, hashtag path, I'd make a path of war to find the best lore for the Eldar.

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And you know what, I think the Eldar need their Mat Ward to just...

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They need a bit of favouritism, man, they've been hurt.

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I mean, as someone who also enjoys a faction or a sub-faction who get basically next to no lore,

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I feel such sympathy as an iron hand enjoyer.

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Half the craft worlds have no lore, the other half have...

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Bad lore.

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Bad card lore.

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I was skimming through the iron hands today and talking about them as only a third of the content today.

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It's going to be about 90% of their lore anyway, so that's interesting.

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I mean, as an iron hand player, you're at least a space marine player, which means you are university-leveled by GW.

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No, we're not. Do you know what? Our character model is iron-

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Excuse me, say what? Your what model?

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The one character model we have.

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It's that meme. You guys get models?

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You wanna hear it? The one character model we do have, though, doesn't appear in any novel, doesn't...

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It's not even like the chapter master, so it's like...

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This guy has a character model. This guy does not understand the life of a chaos space marine player.

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How chapter master Tushan from the Salamanders also, to my knowledge, doesn't have a model?

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The Salamanders have two character models.

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He has his star and magatone.

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And they're captains, like, why isn't Tushan got a- anyway.

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Every chaos space marine-

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I'm afraid I can't hear you down there for my Skaven being a legacy army.

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If real.

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Although, have you seen the leak recently?

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I have, God, I'm-

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A new Skaven, or what?

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Maybe Age of Sigmar?

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Fourth edition is the edition of the Red.

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What if I dwell on this too long, I'm not gonna stop talking about Skaven.

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You're gonna turn to the great horny one at that point.

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You'd better believe it.

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But that was the-

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Yeah, that was the first one.

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Second question from Anarian Targaryen, 6973.

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I'm sorry you made your username based around Game of Thrones.

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I wish- I hope you can heal from what they did to that show.

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But anyway, hashtag path.

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The path of the white strike.

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A path where I just kill elves and starve the dark friends.

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And become the biggest elf hater that dwarves will tell me to take it down a notch.

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Dude, that's true. Kill every mer you find.

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We should do an Elder Scrolls something, at some point.

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I mean, my brain was wasted.

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I've got useless knowledge about how to play and complete a run of Skyrim.

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Yeah, how is Skyrim, gamer?

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I have played too much unmodded and modded Skyrim to justify it.

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Sorry.

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And then the last one, the-

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True banger.

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Uh, rarestpepe3815.

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I would create the path of cope.

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Its purpose would be to keep morale up by justifying every L so it counts as a W.

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And Colin would be its phoenix lord.

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Nice. That's awesome.

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I will happily take on the goal of elf propaganda master.

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The lore of cope.

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I didn't need that, but that was funny.

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It's actually really cool that they lost by the way, because by the way.

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Oh man.

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But good job everyone, you didn't bring up fucking Vtubers for once. I'm very proud of you all.

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Well, everyone's maturing. It's crazy.

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Thank you brother. Oh no, don't die on us.

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Eli is going out.

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He literally before we started, I was like, I ripped my shirt and now he's dying.

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It was the egg he ate months ago.

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Oh man, don't mention the egg that we did, because we moved past it.

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So as night you found us about the egg.

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Uh, what's the next- we have another question of the week. So people put the hashtag and stuff in the comment section.

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Colin, remember what we put for the next question? I think it is-

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Yes, I don't think we got a hashtag.

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Hashtag shatter.

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Alright, let's go with hashtag shatter.

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What would you add to lorehammer war that would break it?

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So, you know, would you pick your warhammer setting and just throw something into it that's going to ruin everything?

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I just thought it was so like inappropriate. I actually can't say it's due to the emperor getting kinky.

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I'm just going to completely crawl that out.

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Feel free to get degenerate in the comments, like, within reason. Within reason, you filthy scum.

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I would add dwarf slayers to the leagues of Otan. For no reason then it would break Hal's dreams of them being a unique faction.

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That'd be awesome.

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I think they are about as original as like, you know, like a cereal flavor that's clearly the same as the original.

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You know when they put like original on something?

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Just to like, separate these things. But they're just clearly the same thing.

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We've got a donation from DonkeymanUSA.

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I love that name.

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You've spelled my name with one too many L's, you bastard. Thank you for the five bucks.

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You've convinced me to start listening to Godric and feel like you also spelled Godric wrong.

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This guy's ruthless.

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Phrase the great horn rat's silliest clown. I'm reading the Thanquel books now, so hell yeah.

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How does it feel that Thanquel has more books than the Iron Hands currently do?

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He's got three of them.

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Holy cow.

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He's the horn rat's silliest goober.

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Iron Hands will eventually get a... you know when they've done a release for every single sub faction ever?

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In the year 2035 they'll eventually...

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Yeah, that's what I keep telling myself.

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I've been waiting for every other Chaos Space Marine Legion to come out.

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When the headless corpse of Ferris Manus is revived and he's on a quest to find his head, you'll see it.

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You guys will be... you'll be looking silly.

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It's actually really cool that they don't have any lore right now because in the future it'll be really cool, guys.

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The path of Cope Israel.

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I'm already joining the path of...

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We're all followers of the path of Cope.

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Hell's an exorc.

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I got some White Scars books in the Horus Heresy. I'm fine.

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Hey, I got an anthology.

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I'm a Lucius the Eternal fan. All I can do is cope, alright?

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You got an animation of it.

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Doesn't he die in that?

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Well he does, but then he like completely destroys the emphasis and everyone's like, that's bullshit.

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And you're like, aww, unfortunate.

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Donkeyman USA with the fucking throat punch.

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Thank you for the other five. I spelled your name wrong.

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I gave you that extra L for being an Eldar Fett.

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Remember guys, you can't spell Eldar without an L.

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Yeah, truly.

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Wow. No, that's not gonna work. That's the opposite of what I want. Never mind, let's continue.

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Well, we're gonna start off with the lore here. Just the brief thing that...

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What's great about being human is there's many things that unite us and today what unites all these three legions,

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which is the Raven Guard, Salamanders and Iron Hand, is that they, perhaps sticking on the theme of Ls,

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they took the biggest L in the entire Great Crutade and Horus Heresy.

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So I think Andy's gonna briefly just explain what Isvahn 5 is, obviously for the uninitiated.

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Honestly, super cool. They put the three legions no one cares about and broke them to start the heresy.

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Yeah, good move, honestly. Before we start, we do have a donation with a goofy question.

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The answer to this question seems pretty obvious. Hypothetical calling with a lot of Ls.

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If you can get rid of your diabetes with zero repercussions whatsoever, would you do it?

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Love from Alberta. Thank you for the $5. I'm also in Alberta. Why wouldn't you?

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Because a friend asked me that once and I made a video about it.

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Oh, I see. That's funny.

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At this point I think I owe him like 50 rounds of drinks for how much superchats I've gotten about that.

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My brother gets that question a lot because he's also type 1 as well as Colin here.

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Would I get rid of it for free? Yes. I don't like medical debt.

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Here's a question for you, Colin. Would you get rid of your diabetes if you basically sealed the pact with GW

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that we'd never get any more Eldar lore ever again? Would it be worth it?

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There's none to start with. Come on. It's basically the same thing.

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All they do is make them take Ls after Ls anyway. It's the current situation.

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So it means there's no more of them losing. Yeah, I would take it.

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I'll just go live in Age of Smarland where the Eldar actually live.

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Is this all like what if things where you can double jump?

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If you get rid of diabetes, but every time you double jump you shit yourself.

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Well, thankfully I can't double jump so I'll get rid of the diabetes regardless.

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A fact about insulin I found out the other day.

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If you exercise it absorbs blood glucose from your body. So you don't need the insulin for it.

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I just learned that. I think that's pretty neat.

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That's one thing that I've learned from the last two years of school.

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That's why exercising makes you go low.

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You can cure diabetes by not exercising ever? Is that the idea?

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No, the other way around because you don't have the insulin.

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If you don't have the insulin you can cure diabetes. That's amazing.

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You can treat part of it.

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Unfortunately the amount of energy required to constantly maintain that not having insulin would be...

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I need to be running 24-7.

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DJ Beast and the Collins, we don't need to answer that question. End times.

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Oh God, would you get rid of diabetes if you could?

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Oh, get an end time. Oh, okay, yeah, Eldar.

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Fuck you moving on.

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Anyway, we can't stall the broken boys any longer.

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So we can't really talk about any of these legions without first mentioning Istvan V.

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It's still pretty fresh in my mind because I've recently done a video on it recently.

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Long story short, Horus Heresy begins. Warmaster Horus betrays the Imperium.

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Before anyone really knows what's going on, he goes, right,

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send the Space Wolves to attack the Thousand Suns so they're out of the way.

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Blood Angels, they're out of the way. Ultramarines, they're out of the way.

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Dark Angels, they're out of the way.

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Rice Guards are somewhere, they're out of the way.

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Oh no, Nathaniel Garrow, this bitch, he's gone back to warn the Emperor.

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I don't like that.

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Rogal Dawn's having a hissy fit and he's like, right, we need to get back at the traitors.

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Fulgrim goes to meet with Ferris Manus, the guy in charge of the Iron Hands,

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and says, come and join the traitors, it's cool.

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And he goes, that's cringe, and betrays him.

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So long story short, to get the reprisal on Horus' rebellion,

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the Emperor through Rogal Dawn sends three legions and then a further four legions

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to hopefully crush the Traitor Rebellion before it has any momentum to get properly started.

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Before we go any further, we've got a donation from Angry Homunculus for five pounds.

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Thank you very much, sir.

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Thanks, brother.

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Oh, good. I'm going to call out Arthur's White Scar hatred by the fact that my extended family surname is Shogutai,

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which comes from Chagatai.

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That's very cool.

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Very cool. I must admit, he did a tier list and he didn't put White Scars in the S tier, so I just bounced.

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If I could live another life, I would choose to be Mongolian.

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Just throwing that out there.

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All the things I never thought I'd hit.

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That's just like, wouldn't have thought the statement of the day.

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The evil Total War 2 made me racist.

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Court of the day, boys.

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Oh my gosh.

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I'm tired, I'm just gonna go to Mongolia and get a hawk.

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I'd love to just-

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Hawk be a horse lord.

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For real.

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So yeah, it's like the masculine urge to go be a horse lord.

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Have you seen their old president? I don't know if he still is, but he's jacked.

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The jacked president you'll ever see.

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That's what we should like get politicians, like you can't be a politician unless you're like, hedge.

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That's the rules now.

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It works, I see.

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Ronald Schwarzenegger, come on, Colin.

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So our American politics would be like, no, only bodybuilders now.

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You think the American people have anything to actually do with our politics?

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Those corpses in Washington are gonna end up in charge no matter what we do.

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Yeah, for real.

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We have another donation. You guys have been very generous, thank you.

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Hey everyone.

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Thank you.

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Colin, a lot of Colin could call us today.

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I'm on the zombie slayer. Should I carry on reading Kinslayer and Slayer?

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Or something else that Godric or Thanqual is in?

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P.S. Death for the knife ears.

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Alright, you didn't need to add that one.

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Bless you, that's why it always-

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But thank you.

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In a video game, it's fine now.

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If, once you get to the thing with, you know what, she's in Total Warhammer now, you know what,

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once she becomes a vampire, go read all Rukka's books.

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Fair enough.

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Yeah.

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So, Istvan5, let's go back to the incest first.

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Please.

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Quickly, quickly.

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So basically, Horus and his other traitor allies have purged their own legions.

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So you've got the Emperor's children, the World Eaters, the Death Guard, and of course the Sons of Horus.

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So they've actually kind of halved the numbers of, well, probably less than halved the numbers of all their legions

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because they've been fighting with each other.

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And the Loyalists did a good job of fighting back, so they actually didn't get as much done as they were hoping in one swift move.

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So the Emperor says to Roguel Dorne, like, you're in charge of the military, I've kind of,

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there's kind of something going wrong in the back rooms, like, what's that noise?

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Like, nothing.

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We're having some technical difficulties.

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No demons.

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Was that Magnus? No, you didn't see anything.

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So Roguel Dorne's like, right, I'm angry now.

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I'm going to send some of my men.

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We're going to send the Iron Hands.

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We're going to send the Salamanders, the Raven Guard, the Night Lords, the Iron Warriors, the Alpha Legion, and the Word Bearers.

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We're going to send eight legions.

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We're going to crush these traitor upstarts.

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He was just throwing shit at the wall to just crush them.

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He was like, these are the guys we can gather around.

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Everyone else, like the Ultramarines and Dark Angels, they're too far away.

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Let's go smash their heads in.

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Basically the operation in North Korea where they went to go cut down a tree, if everyone remembers.

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I do remember that.

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But a few things go wrong.

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First of all, Roguel Dorne's contingent, get lost in the wall.

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So that sucks.

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That's what starts off with the Battle of Fahl.

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He sends a third of his entire legion, which is like, I think, 100,000 men or maybe a bit less.

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And they can't make the battle.

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Like, sorry, guys, traffic.

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So OK, no worries.

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Who's in charge of this assault?

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It's Ferris Manus.

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It's everyone's favorite Primarch Ferris Manus, who does have a neck.

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For now.

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Well, you know.

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He has a big, well, he had a big hammer.

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Shout out to my neck enjoys.

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And there's a weird thing in the artwork where you see Ferris, like even his model on this one, he's swinging a hammer.

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He's like, he shouldn't have that sword.

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Thorgrim takes it away from him and he smashes fire blade and he reforged it.

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Yeah, but it's really cool.

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And maybe we have a table top.

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I'm the only person who's had that artwork.

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The fish, like the actual only artwork of the proper like jewel.

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Yeah, I've got a frickin wrench.

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Why are you attacking with a red carpool?

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Because it goes hard.

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It does go pretty hard. I just wonder what it's called.

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Like this is.

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Philip.

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My legendary wrench of war.

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It should have made that a relic for the tech marines nowadays.

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Exactly. Yeah, that would have made sense.

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But either way, so Ferris Manus is made in charge because he's kind of angy because Thorgrim was like, just a bit.

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He's like, you're my best bro.

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Do you mind?

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Should we?

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No.

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And that's cringe.

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And they get bopped.

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And then like Thorgrim kills pretty much all of his honor guard apart from his first captain.

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He's angry.

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So he's like, I'm leading the charge.

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And to be fair, Ferris Manus and the Ironhands are really well respected because they've got one of the biggest legions.

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Ferris Manus is a taskmaster and they get stuff done.

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Like they're kind of similar to the dark angels, except less empathy and more.

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Just get it done.

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Civilian casualties don't matter if we can get it done quickly.

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Like fine.

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So he's in charge.

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And the first wave is the dark angels is impressive.

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So the first wave is Ironhands and then two very much smaller legions, like the two smallest legions other than the White Scars who are like third place.

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Like everyone knows there aren't many salamanders and Raven guard in comparison to the other legions.

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But it's an OK start.

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We'll send these three legions in first, we'll come back to four legions on Istvan, and then we've got four other legions, even though the Imperial Fist can't be here backing them up.

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They make planetfall.

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They're doing all right.

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They're pushing through.

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Horus is in a big chair in his office, just watching it all happen.

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You know, Mortari and Angron and Thorgrim are cutting suaves through the Ironhands, Salis and Raven guard, whilst Vulcan, Corex and Ferris are also fighting through.

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And it's kind of a ping, ping against each other, but nothing's really happening.

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Oh, look, good reinforcements.

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Good.

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We'll have this sorted.

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Unfortunately, Lorgar is a person, and he's been whispering to, you know, the Primarch of murderers, the Primarch of incels, the Primarch of...

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Did I? Did I not?

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Come on, come on.

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Can you guess which one I'm in?

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On raiders? Well, you said murderers.

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The twin twigs.

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Big tortoise man.

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So, yeah, all of them are kind of going through their own thing, you know, Kars is a bit of a dick.

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Just in general.

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Who's turtle man?

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Paterabo.

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Paterabo?

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Oh, he has so much armor, it's ridiculous.

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Yeah, he's more machine than man.

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That's fair.

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Paterabo's already, like, torched his own home world in secret and killed his sister.

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A grade. A grade.

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He on that grind, or he on that grind.

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It was a busy weekend.

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He sucks.

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Lorgar's already chaos. He's been chaos for a while now. He did it before it was cool.

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And Alpharius is just like, will I be loyal? Will I be... I'm Alpharius.

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So yeah, like that's Alpharius.

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That's how Colin hears it every time.

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I suck. That's how Alphalegion lore enters my brain, to be honest.

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And so, basically, you couldn't pick a worse collection of...

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worse collection of miscreants for a loyalist second assault.

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Like, seriously, we're gonna put the murderer legion and, you know, the sneaky legion,

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who would be, like, really good at doing a backstab, and the, like, religious zealot legion,

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who have been a bit, like, distant for the last few years, and the iron warriors, who are just rubbish.

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So it's like, okay.

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Come on. Come on.

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And the thing is, their whole shtick is like, oh, Dad says I have to.

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So anyway, like, they all make planetfall. Sally's, Raven Guard, Iron Hands, they're a good combo.

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They've worked well before in the past. The three primers get on, like, really well.

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And they're making some headway, but they put three against four, even though the traitors are kind of diminished, it's not gonna work.

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And they're like, oh, good. Here come the iron warriors. They'll go into the meat grinder.

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Our fire is to do whatever he does. Word bearers will do some, like, cheerleading.

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And the nightlords will skin a few traitors. That'll be fine.

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Only except they surround all the loyalists into this space called the Urgal Depression.

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And then they turn their guns on them and they start shooting them in the back.

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And they're like, what? And what happens in the next few hours is about.

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Urgal, big depression now.

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Big depression in about the span of three hours. It's something like nearly I think it's one hundred and fifty thousand to start.

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He's get gunned down from the loyalists. It's a tough read. It's harder to read than his fan three.

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It might be. Yeah, because I think it's like Istvan is like, oh, there's like there's resistance and it's protracted for months like three hours.

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The legions are broken. They're like 90 days before the end of the battle, technically.

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But 92 of those days is just skirmishes. But that first three hours of that first day is just not good.

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By the end of the whole battle, 200000 Astarte's on the loyalists ranks are dead. So that's a lot.

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They also threw a nuke in there randomly. Yeah, they actually nuke Vulcan because the iron war is quite him.

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This is too much.

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Didn't Faris and the two other guys jump the gun? Didn't they go in earlier than they were supposed to?

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Well, this is the thing. Faris was he saw Fulgrim and the Empress was like, oh, I'm rallying for a fight.

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So he actually ran ahead. Then they get cut off.

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Then Vulcan and Korax when they get betrayed, Korax is like, we need to like retreat and then redeploy.

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Whereas Vulcan says, no, we need to we need to we need to combine and dig in and then push back.

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And so they can't agree. So then they split up and then Vulcan gets bombarded before he gets nuked and corks like, oh, no.

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So Korax is pretty much the only one who's in charge within like a few hours.

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And for the next 90 or so days, he's leading like raiding attacks.

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He's doing all these things to try and preserve what's left. Vulcan gets nuked from orbit but survives because he's a perpetual.

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Faris Manus doesn't have a neck anymore.

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And that's a shame. And also the Iron Hands have taken like if the Iron Hands have like over 100,000 asarthes, they don't anymore.

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The other two legions were small enough already.

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And after a few, a few days, four or five of the legions fall back.

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And then I think it's like the sons of Horus, World Eaters, and I think the Iron Warriors and maybe some word bearers are just picking off the survivors.

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And this causes the moniker to be known as the Shattered Legions because at the end of the war, no one took bigger casualties per percentage.

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I know the ultramarines lost like 100,000 asarthes at Calphe, but they still had like 150 to spare.

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Whereas every other one of these legions, they lost way more men than anyone else and they couldn't function as a legion anymore.

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Calphe was an act of self-defense.

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Oh no.

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We should also mention this with the Shattered Legions as well, all of them, like when they would continue on to fight, like pretty much their entire legion was decorating the traitors' ships for like the rest of the heresy.

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I found the one like really probably sad bit is like when Ferris gets beheaded and he dies, they just start picking like, they literally start picking apart their bodies for like, yeah, it's pretty like horrific.

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And if you're in Iron Hand, you're like, you know, trying to survive and you're like, that's literally my prime art of being picked apart like a vulture.

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Fulgrim first, Ferris, gotta be the saddest fight in the Horus heresy, surely.

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Sad how quick it is.

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There weren't any bigger bros than that fighting in the Horus heresy, were there?

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It's like Mortarion versus the Kaul and you know, they don't really care about each other in the first place.

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That one's kind of sad, but it's also poorly written, so whatever.

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Yeah.

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Well, the only thing was you mentioned about like how they picked apart like Ferris' corpse, to give you context, that's like if Rabute Gilman was killed, they like picked his calculator out from his pocket.

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It's sticky.

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The moral from his head.

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So now we've got three legions that are completely useless in terms of being a standing army for legionaries of studies.

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And this is the only time in the heresy where an entire legion is taken unawares in its entirety.

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Like Istvan III is sad because he's a brother fighting brother, but like Dropside Massacre is really sad because it's just like, oh, it's like we're gone.

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There's nothing left.

439
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Like the Iron Hand is like, we've got no lore left.

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That's a shame.

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And one of the main points about these legions is that even in current year 40k lore, because of this event, you don't really hear much about them for the rest of the setting.

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That's how they have many successes.

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And before this, they took the Alpha Legion L, right? Deliverance losses before this.

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Is it? No one knows.

445
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No, it's following.

446
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The Alpha Legion is not like cutting the Raven Guard's faces off and wearing them to like import.

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And then Corex is like, I'm going to rebuild the Legion.

448
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,000
And then the Alpha Legion.

449
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,000
I don't think so.

450
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,000
Call you though.

451
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,000
The one I appreciate.

452
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:05,000
Have they mentioned any other times that the Alpha Legion has basically Primaris Marines?

453
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,000
Because I don't actually remember hearing that in any of the books I've read afterwards.

454
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:15,000
It's just like a fact that is they had Primaris Marines because they stole it from the Raven Guard.

455
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,000
They didn't steal Primaris.

456
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,000
Yeah, but it was like a version.

457
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,000
They stole the not called Primaris.

458
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,000
The Empress Pure Primark Geneseed.

459
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,000
They stole.

460
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,000
Yeah, yeah.

461
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,000
They like it was given the Raven Guard.

462
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,000
It's given the Raven Guard the ability to make like better Marines basically.

463
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,000
Or they can know they can.

464
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,000
Like large amounts, right?

465
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:39,000
They could make space Marines instead of having to do implementation like over years.

466
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,000
They could do it over a matter of months.

467
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,000
Yeah, so they could do like a full process.

468
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,000
They could speed it up.

469
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:53,000
And then the Emperor was like, okay, I'll let you have that, you know, special thing, but they never got to use it.

470
00:29:53,000 --> 00:30:01,000
So it's another reason why the Alpha Legion is somehow the strongest Legion and the goofiest Legion at the same time.

471
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,000
It's like three of them to do it.

472
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,000
I think that's what I would add.

473
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,000
I finally figured out my question of the week answer.

474
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:11,000
I think I would add a bomb that kills every Alpha Legion member at once.

475
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,000
Oh my gosh.

476
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,000
Oh dear.

477
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,000
Just get rid of them.

478
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,000
Just have one author.

479
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,000
Just have one Alpha Legion author.

480
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:22,000
My thing that would break them all would be Alipharius is actually Kegarach.

481
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,000
You know what?

482
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,000
I can live with that.

483
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,000
That one's okay.

484
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,000
Because that one makes sense.

485
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,000
I don't like it.

486
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,000
Sons of Malice, successors.

487
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,000
What's going on?

488
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,000
As the Phoenix Lord of the Path of the Cove.

489
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,000
I agree with this option.

490
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:42,000
So yeah, but that's basically a very brief overview of Istvan V.

491
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,000
And that's why they're called the Shattered Legions.

492
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:49,000
We have a donation from Jeremy Golden for $5.

493
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,000
Thank you very much.

494
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,000
Thank you, brother.

495
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,000
Thank you.

496
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:57,000
Saying, right around this time, there is a group of recruits on Deliverance who would go on to found the Modern Raptors chapter.

497
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,000
Yeah.

498
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,000
Well, there's a thing.

499
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:09,000
A lot of these, with these three in particular, they don't have many successors and they only tend to have like one standout one each.

500
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,000
It's like Ravengards, you've got the Raptors.

501
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,000
Ironhands, you've got the...

502
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,000
Exactly.

503
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,000
...Brazen Cores, maybe.

504
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,000
And then Salamanders, you've got the Dark Krakens, I guess.

505
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,000
Ironhands successors are the saddest part of Ironhands.

506
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,000
There's only one cool one, which is...

507
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,000
I can't remember the name of it.

508
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:34,000
The one that the Adeptus Mechanic has made are the cool ones.

509
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,000
Oh, the Sons of Medusa?

510
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,000
No, they're also cool ones.

511
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,000
Oh, I remember.

512
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,000
There's one called the Iron Wardens.

513
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,000
There's one that the Admecs made, something like that.

514
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:48,000
Yeah, they're like the Holy Trinity of Faer's Manus, the Emperor and the Omnissiah or something like that.

515
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,000
The Iron Wardens are a cool one.

516
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:59,000
I think I mentioned it before, their only role is to essentially cordon off this specific planet that has a really advanced Xenos race on it.

517
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:06,000
And then basically they've worried if the Tyranids ever manage to get up to this planet, it would basically make the Tyranids unstoppable.

518
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,000
So their whole chapter is designed to contain this one Xenos race.

519
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,000
Is that Iron Lords?

520
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,000
I think Iron Lords, Iron Wardens, something like that.

521
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,000
They just start throwing exterminatuses at it.

522
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,000
It's a shame they have a terrible paint scheme, though.

523
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:28,000
Yeah, then most of their second founding chapters are pretty depressing as they have all one paragraph of lore, generally, compared to the other cool ones.

524
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:33,000
I like the Knights of Byzantium, which are purple, iron hands, because it's like, they look cool, they got any lore?

525
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,000
Dude, Byzantine Empire reference goes hard.

526
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,000
Cool.

527
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,000
And it's like a horse, a seahorse thing.

528
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,000
Like a mermaid if it were a horse, if that makes sense.

529
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,000
Not like a seahorse, it's like a horse top and then as a tail it's weird.

530
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:53,000
Anyway, so without further ado, should I go into some detail with one of the three?

531
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:58,000
Yeah, we'll start with the best Horus Heresy books.

532
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:07,000
Here's the thing, I will say to the chat that we aren't going to be going super in depth because we want to, again, one day do like a proper like, here's the Salamanders in its entirety, here's the iron hands, blah blah blah.

533
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,000
But this is an overview because it's like great crusade era versions of these legions.

534
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,000
So, starting off with the Salamanders.

535
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:27,000
18th legion, not much is known about what they did during the great crusade, but they were known as the Dragon Warriors, which is not to be confused with the Dragon Warriors who are a chaos space marine warband.

536
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,000
Completely different thing.

537
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,000
Or the Dragon Warrior from Kung Fu.

538
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,000
Kung Fu?

539
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:40,000
What bootleg version are you watching?

540
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,000
Shut up.

541
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:46,000
Jack Black.

542
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,000
I actually love that film.

543
00:33:48,000 --> 00:34:04,000
So yeah, they were originally, and the thing about the Salamanders is they're a bit of a weird chapter, because they were similar to the space wolves and the alpha legion in that they were part of the trefoil or trifoil, which were free legions made specifically for a very particular purpose.

544
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:14,000
And the you know the space wolves were like, not exterminates, they were like executioners. They were like hunting packs that would kill specific targets. Alpha legion, oh I'm going to be sneaky.

545
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:22,000
No one really knows what the Salamanders were made specifically to do. It could have been good hugs for all we know.

546
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:32,000
Like we're going to make one space marine legion that's kind of nice people, like they're compassionate. Okay, maybe that's it. But it's never really explained exactly what it is.

547
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:38,000
It's never got to the point where the Emperor could unveil that purpose.

548
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:46,000
Though, to be fair, the beginning of their service they had a very bloody reputation.

549
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:55,000
They had a battle called the assault of the tempest galleries. They went from 20,000 Astartes to one, so they lost 19,000 men.

550
00:34:55,000 --> 00:35:06,000
But the Imperium was like, I like them. They're pretty cool. For some reason, they were quickly rebuilt following this victory and they were well happy with how they did stuff.

551
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:22,000
But since this point they were only ever deployed piecemeal, and they were support. They were a support legion for the Imperial Army. So they didn't really often work with other legions they'd actually work with the mortal human guardsmen.

552
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:30,000
And usually they'd be like, oh, they'd be dropped in at the back line of the enemy when the Imperial Army is fighting, they'll go on the other side and they'll do a pincer movement.

553
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:37,000
And because of this they bolstered a really good reputation with mortals where they're like, I like these dragon boys. These are good guys.

554
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:46,000
I don't ever work with the ultramarines. I've heard they're cool, but I've never seen one. I like these guys. You know, they saved my buddy Kevin. Cool.

555
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:57,000
Bonding. I will say we also got a $4.99 donation from that grey shark. Thank you, brother. Thank you very much. Thank you.

556
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:05,000
My relationship status is like Iron Hand, successor chapters, lore, non-existent. Wow.

557
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:20,000
Did himself and the lore dirty. Also from Crimson Glory about the streaming times. When the semester is done in like one month, we'll go back to regular times. I just have a class at the regular time that I can only skip every once in a while.

558
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:25,000
Education is important. Good to see you, Crimson Glory though. Good to see you, brother. Good to see you.

559
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:42,000
So yeah, and the only other thing to really mention about the Salamanders from the Great Crusade, because of their massive losses at the beginning of their service, they never really grew to a size alike to the other legions, and they were always kept in reserve.

560
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:54,000
They never really went to the forefront of compliance as they were support. They were specifically always support rather than we're going to go fight a war. It's like, no, we're going to bolster an existing force.

561
00:36:54,000 --> 00:37:03,000
I had that. They had a problem of self-sacrifice, if I remember correctly. Yeah, they were kind of glory hungry, but also compassionate. They were essentially the team fortress too.

562
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:20,000
For a military, trying to get yourself killed in honorable battles generally not conducive to successful operations. They weren't trying to get themselves killed, but then say like where other legions would, you know, let the civilians or the mortal soldiers die, because we have to retreat because it's a good tactical choice.

563
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:31,000
They'll go, no, we'll fight together. Yeah, and it's like we're not fighting like other legions, like oh, they're all dying in droves. I guess we should too to fit in.

564
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,000
The pressure is real.

565
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:43,000
However, they eventually found their Primarch Vulcan, everyone's favorite big lad. He's huge.

566
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:57,000
Stomp stomp. He was found on the world of Nocturne, which when he was on this planet, he was adopted by a Smith, who's a cool guy. I can't remember the name off the top of my head, but there's a weird thing with Nocturne.

567
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:11,000
The Drukhari, known as Duskwraiths, kept raiding the planet. And at about the age of five or whatever it was when Vulcan was already like taller than any of us and was like muscled and like, oh, you don't look for, I am.

568
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:23,000
And he was like, I've had enough of this. Dad, grab the hammer. I'm going to go like beat them up. And so he basically just got like all the guys on Nocturne to say no actually.

569
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:35,000
Raiding is cringe, and they fought back the Drukhari. I think they found like a portal on their home planet, where they were just like dropping in through I think it's like the bottom of Mount Deathfire there was like a Drukhari.

570
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:48,000
And they were like, oh, that's where they go. Oh, bash bash bash, and they managed to drive off the Duskwraiths, and they were really chuffed about this. Great, we can Smith in peace.

571
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:57,000
And so, to celebrate this they had this event called, you know, I was like, the celebrations of Nocturne, and then this guy called the Outlander appeared.

572
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:14,000
And I was like, this guy's weird. What do you mean? He's like, oh, look at him. He's like, he's white. Oh yes he is. He's very pale, considering, you know, we live next to this massive sun that's like, irradiating us all and we've got like the, especially Vulcan with like the glowing red eyes like that guy looks a bit weird doesn't he? Yeah.

573
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:19,000
It's where it crops with socks and cargo shorts.

574
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:30,000
And I was like, what's this guy's fashion sense? What's going on here? So yeah, this guy turns up and he's like, hey guys, I'll compete in the celebrations with them.

575
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:43,000
And like, I'm sure Eli would like the celebrations. They're like lifting weights, and they're proving how strong they are. They basically concluded like, I'm going to kill a big dragon thing called a salamander.

576
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:55,000
Yeah, I'm going to kill a big one. No, I'm going to kill it. And so then the Outlander's like, okay, you and me Vulcan, we'll go out and we'll kill a salamander. Whoever kills the biggest one wins.

577
00:39:55,000 --> 00:40:05,000
So they go up this, I think it's Mount Deathfire again, it's always Mount Deathfire. It's like that mountain in Ocarina of Time, just like, yeah, it's just that one.

578
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:14,000
So they go and they hunt and Vulcan finds a pretty big one. But then he has a bit of a tumble fighting the salamander and he's clinging onto the edge of the ledge.

579
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:21,000
And then the Outlander's like, oh, he's got this gigantic one. He's like, having a bit of trouble there mate. Oh, and he saves his life.

580
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:36,000
And they go back to the people of Nocturne and he's like, oh, I know that the Emperor or the Outlander in this case, oh, he sacrificed his massive salamander to make a bridge for our escape. And I've got the winning one because I brought it back.

581
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:43,000
But he saved my life. So technically he won. And then Vulcan became a Primarch of the Imperium. That's pretty cool.

582
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:58,000
So he's now in charge of the Dragon Warriors and he goes, oh, Dragon Warriors, that's a bit on the nose. We're going to call them salamanders. With a donation by Leon Leon, he says, aren't Alpha Legion and the Eldar do the same shit every time they lose or do something stupid?

583
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:09,000
It is because it's nonsense. It's because something nonsense. It is all in their master plan. The difference is the Eldar could see the future so they at least know what they're doing. The Alpha Legion are just mystery.

584
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:15,000
You're going to hate this, Colin, but aren't the Eldar basically Zech? Yeah, but they were here first.

585
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:24,000
Zech is goofing himself. What do you mean, yes? Well, in the warp he has always been. Yeah, well, that's stupid.

586
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,000
Is it wrong?

587
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:35,000
The warp has always been here. It has always been a thing. And the Eldar gods are still around. That's just how it is then.

588
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:40,000
If that's how we're going to pull it.

589
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:56,000
So yeah, and with Vulcan back, Dragon Warriors are like, wow, this guy's tall. He's the biggest Primarch. He's like, how tall is Primarch supposed to be? Like nine feet tall or something? He's like 12 or whatever it is.

590
00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:06,000
Oh, he's imposing. And he's even taller than Magnus projecting his height taller. Yeah, he's tall. The only guy taller is the Emperor.

591
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:16,000
And we got a... because there's always like a... I've seen that image of like scale and it's like Roguel Dorne and then it's just Vulcan's just that little bit taller.

592
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:28,000
I think that's 100% accurate, that image. I know it's what you're talking about. I don't even know if it's like a little accurate, but Vulcan is usually like a head taller, at least, than a lot of the other Primarchs.

593
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:46,000
So either way, he gets back to... he's inducted into the Imperium. He's given the 18th Legion. He does a few changes. You know, he goes, we're going to remodel the companies to the fits the different civilizations from Nocturne. We're going to say, oh, Imperial truth. That's a bit cringe.

594
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:58,000
Promethean cult. That's cool. So they... and they're like, I was thinking about this the other day. They're like one of the few Legion era, or one of the Great Crusade era legions that actually has chaplains.

595
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:09,000
So when you think about it, like most of them don't. Word bearers, obviously, they do. But one of the reasons Salamanders do is because they have the Promethean cult. So it's like, oh, it makes sense. They have like a religious thing.

596
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:24,000
So those Ultramarines are like, theoretical. Chaplains are cool. Practical. Religion is cringe. No chaplain. They don't really get them until just before the Horus heresy. Like after the Edict of Nikea when Magnus got banned from music magic.

597
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:39,000
They basically put chapters in the Legion. So they were like, we're just here to make sure you guys are not cringe. Yeah, yeah. But they were a bit less like, oh, Crozius. Oh, that's a bit Lorgar, like copy paste. I don't know.

598
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:57,000
And that's obviously more widespread after the Horus heresy. But yeah, and with Vulcan back, the Legion is really into crafting. They're like, oh, our dad, he can make a mean sword. That's cool. And so they really love making things.

599
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,000
Necklace? What?

600
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,000
Macaroni necklaces.

601
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:06,000
My dad's weapons are spicy.

602
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:24,000
Well, here's the thing. Vulcan is characteristically like the most compassionate Primarch. But at the same time, he's capable of making like world ending weapons. Like, he goes into like, I think it's like a fugue state sometimes, where he wakes up, he's like, oh, what have I made now?

603
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:29,000
And he's like, oh no, I made a gun that blows up the galaxy.

604
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:40,000
Very Oppenheimer. Maybe that's what they were made for though. Maybe that was their thing that they'd make super destructive weapons, but they'd have the heart to only use them when necessary.

605
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:52,000
Well, that's the thing, isn't it? That's why I believe it's the, I can't remember if it's cool, but there's like an artifact that Vulcan made and he actually takes it to the throne room and he's like, put that with the emperor. It's like a doomsday button.

606
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,000
The ball of seven hammers?

607
00:44:53,000 --> 00:45:07,000
The summing of seven hammers. And it's like, Talisman. Talisman, yeah. And the emperor's like, I can only trust Vulcan to make these powerful weapons because I know he's the only one who'll hesitate to use them.

608
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:11,000
Like the lion would be like, fire away!

609
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:21,000
Yeah, yeah. Whereas like Vulcan's like, I mean, I've kept killing Eldar children. I didn't want to. It's like, okay Vulcan.

610
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,000
I assure you, Judge, I did not want the torch thing.

611
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:28,000
It has seemed good at the time.

612
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,000
She was probably like, she was probably like 100 years old anyways.

613
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,000
Does that change anything?

614
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:41,000
I like to imagine. Listen, the lion has a point though. If no one catches you, it's not a war crime.

615
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:46,000
Yeah, yeah. If there are no witnesses, was it a murder? Anyway, so yeah.

616
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,000
If a tree in the forest, blah blah blah.

617
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,000
And as such, there's not really much else to say about.

618
00:45:52,000 --> 00:46:01,000
The other thing about the Salamanders is, like with all of these in particular, there's not much lore other than Istvan as far as before the 41st millennium.

619
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:16,000
All you need to know is Salamanders are compassionate, they're master craftsmen, and they're really like, they're quite, I think they have an affinity more than anything to be like, not Iron Warriors fortified, not cringe fortified, but like, we'll set up a position, we'll fire.

620
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:20,000
If you have a flamethrower, you're my best friend. That's kind of a shtick.

621
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:30,000
Oh, we've got another donation from Crimson Glory this time saying, I wish to pet this creature. Vulcan was my favorite in TTS. Love women is all voice kicks in.

622
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,000
Good old days. Thank you, brother. Good old days. Good to see.

623
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,000
It's a good reference as well.

624
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:45,000
Other than that, we can talk about a few characters from the Salamanders. You got, obviously Vulcan. You've got Artelis Numion, who was the first captain of the Legion.

625
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:57,000
He was there during the crag when they found Vulcan's crispy corpse descend from the heavens and go, oh no, that's a death Primarch that is.

626
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:01,000
Pulled a bit of a level six Sartade Primarch.

627
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:16,000
How did he get here? I don't know. Oh no. And Artelis was a bit depressed seeing his dad like proper crispy bacon like oh, like occasionally just be like, yeah, he's dead.

628
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,000
And he was a bit doubtful.

629
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:28,000
But he had a weird sense of, oh, but I can't really accept that he's dead. Doesn't make sense.

630
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:36,000
So they take his body back to Nocturne and they are doing like the funeral procession thing as the planet's being assaulted as well.

631
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:41,000
And they're like, okay, we're going to put him into Mount Deathfire because it's always Mount Deathfire.

632
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:47,000
We're going to put him in the lava and we're going to just like let him be one with Nocturne and we can lay him to rest.

633
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:56,000
Numion's like, no, I can't. He's very much a coke Marine like Colin with the Eldar. He's like, I'm not accepting this.

634
00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:03,000
My dad's not dad. Can I stop catching strays?

635
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:08,000
Everyone is like every day. It's kind of a piece of shit.

636
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:17,000
Massive asshole is a thing that at least he's not as cringe as an Iron Hands fan like how anyway.

637
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,000
All right. Yeah, I love you redirecting the shots.

638
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:26,000
I mean, I'm about to get more lore than you.

639
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,000
So yeah, but he's like my dad. I love him so much.

640
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:34,000
He hurls himself into Mount Deathfire because he reckons it'll do something.

641
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:38,000
He dies and then his sacrifice resurrects Vulcan somehow.

642
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:42,000
Not exactly sure how. Probably something to do with the Promethean cult.

643
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:49,000
I don't know. I thought it was kind of like how, you know, the emperor, if he gets Syka's sacrifice to him, he can get rejuvenated.

644
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,000
But Vulcan does that with lava. Like cool.

645
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:58,000
I think it's implied that the emperor basically whispered to Nubian being like, you know, see the lava. Yeah.

646
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,000
You know, like your dad in it.

647
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,000
No, he said like also jump in it. What?

648
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,000
It's like what do you mean? It's just a background thought. Just do it.

649
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:12,000
The emperor is like, what is that? The call of the void where it's like you're driving and you're like, I could just drive off the road right now.

650
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:19,000
Well, you know, you lose concentration for like one second, like a split second.

651
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:23,000
We got got another five dollar donation from Donkeyman USA.

652
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,000
Thank you, brother.

653
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:28,000
They saying Noble Six is still in that cave. I also follow path.

654
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,000
Wow. Yeah, sheesh.

655
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:38,000
Dude, Vulcan is just Noble Six. They both fell out of orbit. They both are hiding in a cave alive somewhere for real.

656
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:43,000
Yeah, to be fair, he drops like massacre happened and then all Vulcan savers survive.

657
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,000
But yeah, makes sense.

658
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,000
See, it checks.

659
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:52,000
So, yeah, that's that's our tell us. Not really much other than he was a cool. He has cool armor.

660
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,000
He's first captain for a bit.

661
00:49:54,000 --> 00:50:01,000
And he he he does so our savior could live Vulcan. Nice.

662
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:09,000
Only two or two or so others. I've got no miss right time. Regents of Nocturne and Lord Chaplin of the Promethean cult during this time.

663
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:13,000
He defended Nocturne from invasion during the Horus Aracy.

664
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:18,000
That's him. And last of all, you got forge father to tell.

665
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:29,000
So you meant you know how mentioned like salamanders good craftsman and Vulcan has a tendency to make horrifically powerful weapons by accident.

666
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:37,000
Before he left for Istvan five, he went to to tell and he was like the equivalent of like a tech Marine for the salamanders but artisanal.

667
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:43,000
He's like, I'm not I'm going off to like a big fight. We've never done this kind of fight before.

668
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,000
Could you do me a favor.

669
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:51,000
Check out my massive vault of doomsday weapons, and there's like thousands of things he's made.

670
00:50:51,000 --> 00:51:09,000
And it's like, oh, these are cool. And he says, all right, to Cal break like, here's the cauldron. I think it's the chalice of fire or cauldron or whatever it's like, I need you to dunk everything to this cauldron destroy everything, but pick but like destroy and he's like everything we can't let anything fall into straight hands.

671
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:26,000
And then you're doing my hard drive. But my hard drive. But, but, but these are really cool. I don't we shouldn't break these like this. This is a this is a you know, this is like a prestige level five called knife file five million pounds.

672
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:41,000
CSGO. This is the 10 grand CSGO knife. Yeah, it was Leon Leon gave us another five million pounds. Thank you. We all love Colin and his bad opinions.

673
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:58,000
Every stray, please. They were actually over an Instagram comment the other day that said, if there's one pancreas no fan or progress no work fan on planet, it's me. If there's one pancreas no work hater on the planet, it's also me.

674
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:13,000
I really feared and love. I do like how angry homunculus basically encapsulated to Kels storyline of cast it into the fire. Yeah, so he goes dad, dad, please.

675
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:30,000
How can I keep like a few cool things things are nine, you get nine cool fit and the cauldrons one of them. You get eight other than this you get eight things you pick eight things. And now you're a forge father, and that means you've got to like stop these from

676
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:35,000
falling into bad people's hands, because whatever you pick.

677
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:48,000
It's a real big pain in the ass if anyone gets their hands on it. And so he became the first forge mark forge father. And that's his character art completed, he broke everything else.

678
00:52:48,000 --> 00:53:04,000
He recycled everything like a good boy, and he kept nine items including a ship and a massive doomsday cannon on that ship, and some weapons. So that's all like, who's the one who he was the original like Legion Master, and then he got

679
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:09,000
he got awked. And then he said then, Vulcan made him like a bespoke.

680
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:20,000
Cassian Vaughn. Yeah, he was like, yeah, he was made Vulcan made him like a dreadnought chassis that was practically indestructible.

681
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:37,000
And he fought the Alpha Legion during the Horus Heresy he's kind of cool. He fought he fought alongside Narik Drager, and they were like, oh, these Alpha Legion are pretty cringe, and then the Arude was like, I know right and I'm an iron warrior

682
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:53,000
and they fought together to fight the Alpha Legion. I think it was a headhunter. I might have read that book. Yeah. Yeah. And the last thing I'll say about salamanders.

683
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,000
There's not much else to say about salamanders.

684
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,000
They were

685
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:13,000
Yeah, sounds about right. That's about it. All right. So, why isn't. I have not kept up with salamanders Lord. Why nowadays is Vulcan has stand not the chapter master anymore. No, he's too Sean is the chapter master.

686
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:25,000
Why isn't Vulcan has stand anymore. Did he die. He never was. He was just the main character. Okay, he has to assume that he was Vulcan, and he's got five.

687
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:37,000
Oh, I see. He's like a special role. And yeah, his role is to make sense and makes sense like he literally goes like you you you you come with me, and then they just go looking for the weapons.

688
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:48,000
Also, Vulcan has star is like a title they inherit. Yeah, so they all basically become Vulcan has like you basically lose your old name you become the Vulcan has done you are now Vulcan.

689
00:54:48,000 --> 00:55:00,000
Basically, I mean, three who would be called like it'd be like Vulcan and so is my dad, you know, it would be like someone inherit like someone in the Ultramarine is going and now you're like your your mini Gillamon, like, oh, damn.

690
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,000
I mean, I got a lot of responsibility.

691
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:10,000
I think that's a, I, you're a boot a Gillamon I'm a boot a Gila boy.

692
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaking of the baby, perhaps not the best Legion, but the best shattered Legion.

693
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,000
Ironhands baby.

694
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:27,000
This is all their law. It's here.

695
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:34,000
Ironhands start, I'm going to go with Andy, this will be not like super brief but I'm not going to do everything.

696
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:45,000
Ironhands kind of start as a legion called the Storm Walkers on terror. They kind of get that name from a tactic, which is basically hammering anvil, it's just called hammer and storm.

697
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:50,000
I really hate that part.

698
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:55,000
We do have a donation here though just before I go on. Thank you very much. Thank you brother.

699
00:55:55,000 --> 00:56:15,000
I'm going to go with the Edgar Allen Poe Marines Raven God, as I like the idea of dudes wearing an Abrams work of metal being sneaky and a start he's being more tactical in general, what changes that additions would you gents make to garner them more love.

700
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,000
Books.

701
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:22,000
Give them more right books, please.

702
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,000
Well, a slightly serious answer is they need a better floor.

703
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:40,000
They're kind of like each legions got a cool, like the cool legions have got like a floor or there's like a, there's a big thing like the Dark Angels are embarrassed the Ford and the Blood Angels have black raid, the Raven God don't really have enough of a floor.

704
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:45,000
And not like when they go in the light, they burns.

705
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:52,000
Just two obvious references is probably the problem.

706
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,000
But speaking of a legion that will become very flawed, which I enjoy.

707
00:56:55,000 --> 00:57:02,000
So they base, most of the legion gets their recruits from old Albia which is basically UK baby.

708
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:06,000
Yeah, true life of a Brexit geezer.

709
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:10,000
We've got so long without it.

710
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,000
England.

711
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,000
Emperor lovely.

712
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:22,000
Yeah, right mate off from old Albia and more sorry what you playing out I'm not doing that.

713
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:30,000
Gaser, or gazers from Albia go storm walk it.

714
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:39,000
The storm walkers, they're pretty cool but again not much really that kind of makes them unique, as most legions are on the early Unification War stuff.

715
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:43,000
The gene seed is good though the seat is good brothers.

716
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,000
Good for one specific.

717
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,000
What did he mean by this.

718
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,000
The gene seed is good for one specific thing.

719
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:55,000
Bionics baby chrome me up.

720
00:57:55,000 --> 00:58:12,000
I'm going to call law next please, please, please, but essentially, iron hands gene seed is pretty like they have a high take of to bionic so if Legionaries lose their limbs or an eye, you know, they don't have rejection that much so that's pretty cool.

721
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:25,000
Their Primark is perhaps the least amount of war is Ferris Manus. Sadly, as we heard from earlier from the ISFARM part of the beginning, he kind of got killed before he could have a character arc.

722
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,000
So, he was he's starting it.

723
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:37,000
And then it you know then it kind of ended. But, you know, a Primark did have to die on perhaps the most, you know, horrific battle in the entire early Harris.

724
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,000
Someone had to go it might as well have been him.

725
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:58,000
He was found on the world of Medusa. Again, another Greco Roman reference there. We love the uniqueness and Medusa is basically like, I mean, it is just the biggest shithole, perhaps, has ever existed.

726
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:04,000
It's like kind of a forge world, but then they don't make anything cool for a while.

727
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:16,000
Medusa, Medusa even to the modern timeline is like, is that there's like they've described as like, people who grew up in Medusa don't really see things that have color in them, because there's nothing on the planet that reduces color.

728
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,000
So, it's all greyscale.

729
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:34,000
It's basically rocks people kind of rave about in, like they have some technology but they kind of rave about in like as just roaming. It's basically mad, you know what it is, it's like greyscale Mad Max, it describes it as at the time.

730
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:49,000
His story as he lands on Medusa ends up fighting, potentially, I think a tomb spider court, which he names like a serenade, which is because it has like a mythology around it because it's basically a Necron.

731
00:59:49,000 --> 01:00:05,000
It's basically been hooking around for ages, then the Emperor comes and it starts to transform the incorporated into the Imperium. The weird thing about the Iron Hands slash again it well first of all the weird thing is this, it's a man in Ferris Manus who is iron hands.

732
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:16,000
You know, framework of the iron hands, who often gets legionaries replacing their iron hand. So, I've got a pertinent question about the law of the iron hands how.

733
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:25,000
Go for it. Who has a sturdier grip Ferris Manus or Rogal Dawn.

734
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:30,000
What we're gripping on. Because one's a clenched fist and one's a metal hand.

735
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:46,000
Yeah, I mean, technically Ferris Manus then because it just locks metal. Whereas Rogal Dawn's grip is more of like a, he had like a grip over things in a sort of ruler sense.

736
01:00:46,000 --> 01:01:05,000
I'm not completely there. But the Medusa is quite, what do you mean by that? But Medusa is quite interesting because they had this like, I basically know sort of a barbarian clan system, and they basically transpose that into the Legion itself, and each of the clans within the

737
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:21,000
Legion, they all specialize in different traits, although somewhat around the idea of it being technology related. Some of the clans that are known, they had clans at the time but some of them are no longer in the 40th millennium they've sort of changed or new ones have arisen.

738
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:37,000
And in the time of the Great Crusade, there's ones called Atraxie, Borgar, Felg, Kadoran, Morghal and Ungvar. It's called Borgar? Yeah, V-O-R-R-G-A-R. Wonderful.

739
01:01:37,000 --> 01:02:02,000
Borgar. I love Warhammer. The clans themselves are sort of, as much as they were designed to basically cover each other's weaknesses or sort of be legions within legions, so they would send out clans to sort of, you know what I mean, like if the Iron Hands had to get Codex Astartead at any point, they probably could have.

740
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:14,000
So they were, they were obviously, they had so much, Medusa's are quite independent and hard headed, much like Ferris Manus. Some notable legionaries, we're going to go for that before their Great Crusade lore.

741
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:17,000
Can I mention a tidbit about the clans as well? Oh yeah, go ahead.

742
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:39,000
So basically, Ferris had a policy of, we're not going to make Medusa peaceful. You are all going to fight each other all the time to make you strong. So that's the kind of guy he was. He was like, I could like, make peace and unity between, he's like, no, I want you guys to be like, attacking each other and like prodding each other with sticks and punching each other in the teeth.

743
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:47,000
Like, yeah, that's the kind of guy I was like, just to keep you tough. So yeah, opposite of Vulcan. And yet they got on quite well.

744
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:55,000
One last thing to mention as well is that it describes in the books that every single person from Medusa is pretty ugly.

745
01:02:55,000 --> 01:03:03,000
Like they're just like, they're just like me. No, they are like, it reinforces a lot like they are all pretty like, the looks is not a...

746
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:08,000
None of them are allowed to have a non broken nose by the age of 10. It's like, no, we're Vulcan.

747
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:15,000
They're pretty ruthless to live on Medusa. But then, you know, again, like the strong emerge, they're fighting a war.

748
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:21,000
They're not building civilizations. But some notable members, again, Ferus Manus.

749
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:27,000
We're going to go over most of his story in the subsequent Great Crusade section.

750
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:32,000
Leon Leon donated a 10 pound saying Ferus Manus, aka Iron Daddy.

751
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,000
Iron, that's him baby. Thank you.

752
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,000
Not for very long, unfortunately, in the lore.

753
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:42,000
So Ferus Manus, again, Primarch of the 10th. He kind of.

754
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:47,000
I mean, as much as like I will go over his character again, he's a sort of a very strong headed.

755
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:55,000
But I wouldn't say like he's not like known as he doesn't fulfill a role that a lot of other brothers do in like a finished empire.

756
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:58,000
Ferus Manus was designed to build an empire and for conquest.

757
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:02,000
He never thought of himself as something more than that, really.

758
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:08,000
You know, he was he could build stuff like many that he was pretty good with technology and understand it.

759
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:14,000
You know, like Pertorabo could build things without having to like he had the designs.

760
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,000
You like Matt and his brain knew everything.

761
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:19,000
Basically, whereas Ferus Manus could just work out anything.

762
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:24,000
So it one of there's a bit in one book where he's actually looking at technology that's way beyond the Imperium.

763
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:29,000
And he just by a look, he can actually dissect it and he actually understands it.

764
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:35,000
And he also has like some cool weaponry like he used to to disassemble PCs and be like, how does this work?

765
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:41,000
But like, you heard of Bitcoin. It's getting big.

766
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:48,000
Another small I got to get through quite there's quite a few iron hand characters because they kind of this is like where they get all their law, really.

767
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:54,000
There's a guy named Amadeus Duquesne, who was kind of like one of the old geez of the Legion.

768
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:55,000
He was the Lord Commander.

769
01:04:55,000 --> 01:05:02,000
Yeah. So when a lot of them would talk about Amadeus Duquesne, they would mention like, yo, that's Amadeus Duquesne.

770
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,000
Like, holy crap.

771
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:09,000
This guy was basically sort of like actually the oldest guy in the entire Legion.

772
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,000
Very well respected. You know, Primarch knew his name.

773
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,000
Sadly, he gets it.

774
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:21,000
It's fun. And he's the one who actually like sends out the blaring call for like he just says, you know, run away, live, get revenge.

775
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:27,000
And he lets himself sort of buy time for others to back away and evacuate in space.

776
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:30,000
There's a character called Gabriel Santa.

777
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:41,000
I think he's part of the is he part of the Sisyphus, the crew of the Santor Santor dies, I think on this farm because he's the first captain.

778
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:42,000
Yeah, I think so.

779
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:43,000
There's so many that I get confused.

780
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:51,000
Gabriel Santa was the first captain. Apologies. He has to submit another name. Gabriel Santa was the first captain of the Iron Hand.

781
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,000
Again, as you can tell, memorable.

782
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,000
Gabriel Santa unfortunately dies in the third book.

783
01:05:55,000 --> 01:06:04,000
So in the horrors, by the way, fourth book, we got a 30 squigglies from incoming backup saying they don't tell you that in law.

784
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:11,000
But the reason Ferris needed to get metal hands is because he got his hands bitten off by Boing Gob.

785
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:17,000
Yeah, yes. Rackets rip rotisserie king.

786
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,000
It's all coming together.

787
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,000
It's all coming together.

788
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:22,000
No surprise to have that.

789
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:35,000
There's a cool bit on Medusa where they basically say there's just like a shadow lands area and there's just like creatures in there where like even the modern day iron hands just don't go near it because it's just considered like that's for Boing Gob.

790
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:51,000
Hopefully, Gabriel Santa was kind of the only space marine who was able to calm Ferris Manus because Ferris Manus was a bit like once someone pissed him off, he was like a bull and he would lock on and he was like, I'm just I'm tearing it down.

791
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:54,000
Richard Nixon.

792
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,000
No one's breaking in.

793
01:06:56,000 --> 01:07:07,000
Sit down.

794
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:12,000
He's that thing in future I would like his heads in the jar as well as pretty.

795
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:27,000
Pretty good link Gabriel Santa was pretty skilled but he did not end up dying on on the fields up is fun five he kind of I can't remember who killed him it was not was one of the other Empress children or if you remember Eli might have been voyrosian

796
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:45,000
possible the guy who's in who was the guy who birthed the who the sonic weapons.

797
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:58,000
Is this on his fan that you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, I think you like, cut some up the groin and then like, where's the skin or does something. Yeah, and the thing is, is worth mentioning that again, this is like the first time anyone seen what the Empress children have been doing with

798
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:01,000
like, themselves and makeup.

799
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:10,000
I mean like scalpels and stuff, and the iron hands basically their reaction is just like, let's go fight them and they just go.

800
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:25,000
I don't want to fight that anymore. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty, pretty horrible there. So I will slight want to be I want to add on as well. The iron hands themselves are not even at this point they're not like super like no like product pro I love them was like

801
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:40,000
like a pro emperor during Great Crusade, some of that, the unhands were very much just like, yeah, we're kind of just soldiers and we enjoy soldiering like they don't even have that much imperial iconography on all their armor their armor is designed to just be the best in

802
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:55,000
people. They're just very utilitarian utilitarian, like they just get the job done and that's like Ferris never wanted to be like a conqueror or a win, he wanted to be a concrete didn't want to be a leader is like, I'll just get stuff done, because that's the job, I'll get the job done

803
01:08:55,000 --> 01:09:14,000
now. Now go home and I'll do it all again. Susan. Isn't she lovely and the next character is called Shadrach Medusen some people who actually even heard of the iron hand iron hand character like Shadrach, because the reason why everyone likes Shadrach Medusen

804
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:29,000
I will go over some more of his events in his, the Horus heresy law section but Shadrach was a Terran, and he's basically kind of one of the few who actually sort of realized the flaws within the allegiance ideology and was able to do something really cool within the Horus

805
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:38,000
heresy and actually almost managed to kill Horus himself. He tried to assassinate Horus loads of times, and he got really close.

806
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:56,000
And it's really funny, Horus is like this guy's getting on my nerves and he's just like, he was a massive pain in the ass for Horus. Another character called Ortek Maw, who's perhaps the biggest asshole of all the loyalists ever.

807
01:09:56,000 --> 01:10:14,000
This guy would like, he would, it's kind of a thing of everyone here watch Bleach. Is it? I never saw it. There's a character like Yawarch, maybe Yawarch, like if someone had to, like in the iron hand, you can become a captain by dueling the previous captain and killing them.

808
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:24,000
Like they would only let the strongest lead and Ortek Maw would regularly duel other legionaries for fun, just because they annoyed him. Oh, not even iron hands or?

809
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:36,000
No, other iron hands. He had a reputation. He was good at what he did, but he was a complete dick and he was very, this guy did not care about civilians one day.

810
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:45,000
There's also another captain called Ulrach Brathan, who will be part of the crew of the Sisyphem, which is basically the Sisyphem.

811
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:48,000
Seriously? Is that the actual name?

812
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:55,000
The Sisyphem. It sounds like that. The Sisyphem, apologies. It's a different vessel.

813
01:10:55,000 --> 01:11:01,000
Oh my god. It's the US, the Imperial Sailor Ship Femboy.

814
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:18,000
There's a Horus Heresy plot, which is it follows the crew of a, basically the Shattered Legions, like a few of them survived and they all board this ship and this is the one that manages to basically semi-assassinate Fulgrim and then some other stuff that Andy will cover.

815
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:35,000
But they even have a Cedar Terror book on them as well. This is the captain who basically gets Isvand and he's kept in ice in stasis and they basically have to awaken him like a computer for information and he's always at the edge of death.

816
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:46,000
It's an interesting, weird little orbit there, but again, the iron hands just don't care. Someone's like, turn off the light support, I'm over. And they're like, no.

817
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:49,000
No you ain't.

818
01:11:49,000 --> 01:12:05,000
And, oh, Alan's just going away for a bit. Have fun, Andy. We have another character called, almost all of the characters though, again, not that, not a huge amount of them, but just someone called Jebez Org who was kind of the initial leader, after all the Shattered Legions were just kind of lost after what happened.

819
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:20,000
And Jebez Org was a Medusen and he kind of realized like he wasn't right for the leadership and he would eventually give it over to Shadrach Medusen who is like, yo, let's get guerrilla warfare going.

820
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:36,000
He would be his second, which is very weird in Medusen like culture, you don't really give up a position like that. So he was quite different. Another character is called Bayon Henrikos who sort of, I think he's the one who is, they basically discovered that there's something called the dark

821
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:51,000
mechanicum and they discovered that the warp is basically infected. They discover how, their plotline, they discover how the Trater Legions are able to navigate through the warp, even to the modern day, they basically have like corrupted machine spirits that are like with demons in them.

822
01:12:51,000 --> 01:13:01,000
So there's a plotline there and they also, he follows along with some white scars and they basically try and kill Horus, funny enough.

823
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:09,000
And they want to counter, yeah, that involves a plot of like, there's a character called Little Horus who doesn't make it to the end of the...

824
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:10,000
Horus Axeman, right?

825
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:30,000
Yeah, yeah, he, they try and kill him as well. Bayon Henrikos ends up getting killed by Little Horus but then Hubu Khan, who's one of the white scars, he got lent. Oh, there's a really cool part of the lore here. At this time, the, like the dualists of the Iron Hands, they carried around Zwei handers.

826
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:35,000
Which is like, it's a thing that they don't have in the 40k stuff, but they...

827
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:36,000
I wish they did.

828
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:51,000
No, but it's because again, like the Iron Hands, they built bulk armor, so they thought we need like a heavier weapon. And he actually lends it to a white scar and the white scar goes, this is really hard to wield. And they're like, yeah, you got it. It takes a while to get used to that. And he ends up like slicing Horus Axeman's face off.

829
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:52,000
That's why we love it.

830
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:53,000
Literally has a face off.

831
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:54,000
Oh yeah, yeah.

832
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:55,000
Yeah.

833
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:56,000
Took his face...

834
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:57,000
Literally face off.

835
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:58,000
Off.

836
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:17,000
Yeah. And then there's a last character called Sybeck Wayland, who's probably one of the coolest names. I actually enjoy them that Legion. Sybeck Wayland was a character who based Izozgen part of the Sisyfem group.

837
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:37,000
He's sort of tied in with a character that Andy will talk about later, but he's also immortalized in the Iron Hands Medusen sort of fortress monastery as like the one of the few images they have the Horus heresy, which is Sybeck Wayland rescuing Raven Guard from Isfahan Fai. So he's actually like an immortalized character.

838
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:52,000
It's a shame he's one of the coolest characters and there's like one picture of him and it's like, you know, there's that Horus heresy Siege of Terabooks images where it's like busts of just the characters heads. Fastly the only thing we have is like, can we not just have him in the armor, please?

839
01:14:52,000 --> 01:15:04,000
His story is quite funny because he doesn't like any of the Salamanders or Raven Guard, because he doesn't like, like, they all have like a sense of humor, and then he's like, mmm.

840
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:08,000
He's just the typical grumpy old man.

841
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:09,000
You all have fun.

842
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:10,000
Yeah.

843
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,000
Moving on to the Great Crusade lore.

844
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:18,000
Essentially, well, Iron Hands lore starts with again, terror, spreading out and then spreading out and meeting their Primarch.

845
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:37,000
So, um, Ferris Mask gets found really early on, so the fourth Primarch found pretty, so he gets to mold his legion pretty quickly. Iron Hands specialize in, you know, basically upgrading their technology, bionics, heavy, heavy artillery and bombardment.

846
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:51,000
They can have the, even to the modern day, they have the most amount of transport tanks out of any legion. They're basically an armored core of all the legions. Armored core? Someone said armored core? It has lore, right?

847
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:56,000
What's that? What's that shop where you buy all the gadgets in the UK? It's like, man-made whatever it's called.

848
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:57,000
Greggs.

849
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,000
Greggs.

850
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:07,000
You buy that gadget shop and it's just like, the Iron Hands are just like those guys. It's just like, oh, they've got drones. Oh, they've got like, weird gadgets.

851
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:09,000
People don't know the Wetherspoons lore.

852
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:10,000
That's the space wall town.

853
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:13,000
I do not know the Wetherspoons lore, I gotta get that.

854
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:16,000
Wetherspoons in the UK, but there's like a, Wetherspoons is like a chain.

855
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:22,000
Usually people are like chain restaurants or like chain fast food. This is a chain pub.

856
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:28,000
But it's known for having like pretty good drinks and then pretty much like basically what people think English food is.

857
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:37,000
Think of it like this. Imagine the, it's the McDonald's of alcoholism. It's like, what if McDonald's were a pub?

858
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:40,000
Oh, that sounds so gross, dude. Oh my gosh.

859
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:46,000
They'd go in, really cheap alcohol, there might be pipes, but they've got security on the door so it's fine. It's like, that's the vibe.

860
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:57,000
Like if people complain about English food, this is the place that makes that food. It is where perhaps cuisine goes to die, to get picked apart.

861
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,000
Picked apart at Isfarn 5.

862
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:03,000
Microwaved cooked chicken basket for me please and a strong guy.

863
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,000
You never eat a Wetherspoons.

864
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:06,000
Oh my gosh.

865
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:10,000
Deep fried arsehole, it's terrible.

866
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:12,000
My favourite.

867
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:20,000
So, so, continuing on with the lore. And then the Ironhands also developed their friendship at the time with the Emperor's children and Fulgrim.

868
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:35,000
You know, they basically become best buds because the Ironhands are their whole thing about, they, much like the Salamanders are like a self sacrifice thing, the Ironhands seek perfection, although their perfection is more of in terms of winning war.

869
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:49,000
Like they basically, whatever makes them the perfect soldiers, they will do that. So if they have to upgrade, like, and they say they think a lot of times, the phrase, the flesh is weak sort of starts around this time, although I will explain the

870
01:17:49,000 --> 01:18:01,000
kind of how they misinterpret it, but they, a lot of them think, ah, my poor human eye, I get old, I get sick, I can, you know, my human eye, I have human flaws, but a machine doesn't have flaws like that, so

871
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:16,000
they start to replace stuff. They basically conquer loads of planets. Again, it's not the most decorated out of all of the legions, but they pretty much are, I would probably say middle of the pack to be honest, because the Ironhands, despite

872
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:34,000
the tactical, despite the tactical genius of like the lion or Horus and stuff like that, the Ironhands are very much, they are sent against, like the kind of simile to Ironwarriors, they do get sent against pretty horrific foes a lot of the time, because again, they'll grind things down into paste.

873
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:45,000
Although they aren't like the Ironwarriors, it's like we have one tactic, and if we throw enough of our men at the wall, it will win, whereas the Ironhands are like, we should maybe go around the wall.

874
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:48,000
Good idea. Like they're a bit more logical.

875
01:18:48,000 --> 01:19:02,000
A slight interesting as well is that, a slight interesting as well is not as well known, which is the Ironhands actually have quite a lot of, so you know like in sports teams, like players get sent out on loan.

876
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:18,000
There's quite a lot of that happens in the Ironhands, they actually have quite a few like smaller detachments or squads from other legions, they're actually a contingent of thousand sons actually follow along with them, a small amount of Empress children, a small amount of ultramarines actually follow along in some stories as well.

877
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:33,000
So they actually work with, and they've often as well trained a lot of the other Primarchs or legions. So they kind of are like a weird mix, again like because there's so many different clans within, it's sort of like its own mini empire than the Ironhands.

878
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:47,000
Yeah, and they sort of. And again it goes back to that, we were taught to get better through conflict and competition, so they like to be like, how do you do war? Yeah? With like special hats, cool. We can try that.

879
01:19:47,000 --> 01:20:02,000
Yeah, what's the weird part is everyone seems to like them in the universe, in terms of like all the other Primarchs and legions like working with them because it's kind of like, they're seen as like, the food, yeah, obviously they say that the food of the old reliable essentially, there's nothing wrong with them.

880
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:08,000
They're not gonna be your best mate, but they're also like that's like co-worker who's going to get done, you know that co-worker who actually does his job.

881
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:21,000
Yeah, it's a pretty good hammer, just saying. Yeah, be not friends, that's how it works. I like how like on both sides of the aisle, it's like Horus said if we get the Ironhands on the traitor fold, we'll win the war.

882
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:38,000
And then Gillum was like, of all the Dorners few there, one of them where I'm like, and when he when when Ferris died, several man tears from Gillum going, I like Ferris. Just from a comment from Jared Esrin, who put English food is barely passport.

883
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:41,000
Listen here.

884
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:54,000
I agree. I have French palate as well so. Do you know what it is? Do you know what it is? It's a culture of overworking, so therefore food is not, you don't care because lunch is like 30 minutes.

885
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:58,000
At most. I don't know, I get a lot of that. That's what we get around here.

886
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:06,000
I know, but I guess overwork, there's too much overworking in our culture and not enough spice.

887
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:22,000
Oh yeah, so at this time, they kind of, again, the Ironhands are very much, they don't really care about being like number one because they kind of know like Horus is the most favored son. Ferris knows that.

888
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:34,000
Ferris kind of likes the Emperor because the Emperor is sort of like, he's like his big brother in a way who like, they had like the wrestling match in the living room, and the big brother won, so it's kind of like I respect you now, kind of thing.

889
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:41,000
Because when the Emperor landed on Medusa, he basically went, alright, the Emperor is going to fight round one, ding ding.

890
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,000
Round one. Went straight in.

891
01:21:43,000 --> 01:22:05,000
One of the first things that happens in novel form is a small story where basically, Ferris Manus gets isolated from his legion by the Eldar, and essentially this Eldar Farseer is trying to warn him, basically saying like, listen, I need to speak to you, you're a Primarch, son of the Emperor.

892
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:16,000
A catastrophe civil war will be coming soon, and Ferris Manus is like, alien filth, what are you saying, lies. And then the Eldar basically goes, he's too stubborn headed, why'd they choose him?

893
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:20,000
They chose all the wrong Primarchs to talk to.

894
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:22,000
Yeah.

895
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:44,000
There is an interesting part where they actually show, it's an interesting bit where they must separate him by creating a psychic storm that basically short circuits electronics, so an entire legion that has bionics, that was like this, they would, this sort of changed them, because they were like, oh my god, they just tapped us in our biggest weakness.

896
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:59,000
And one character I mentioned earlier called Bion Henrykos, he was quite young at the time, he basically only had an Org-Metic arm, like one, and then he took it off, and then when he took it off, they were all like, oh my god, what are you doing?

897
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:18,000
That's cringe. But he basically went, I don't care, because our Primarch's in danger. And he alone with like basically the mortal soldiers went in to go fight the Eldar, the mortal soldiers basically got killed to a man, but because they did a job they couldn't do, they basically gave them like a place of honor, so they kind of guarded the Primarch since then.

898
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:23,000
I can't remember the name of the group, whatever, because again, Einhansel.

899
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:24,000
They would then-

900
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:25,000
The Morlocks, is it?

901
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:26,000
I think so, maybe.

902
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:28,000
That's the honor guard, that's like the elite.

903
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:33,000
Oh no, that's the part of the legion, this is like the mortal human ones.

904
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:55,000
There's also another event where essentially, Ferris and Manus, they found a world that was kind of like, they basically found a second Mechanicum, and Ferris was like, he already had a pretty strong alliance, the Einhansel always had a strong alliance with the Mechanicus, Mechanicum of Mars, and they basically went, yo, we kind of needed to like just pack this world in and implode it.

905
01:23:55,000 --> 01:24:03,000
And Rogal Dawn went, nah, we could probably just incorporate them into Mechanicum, they had a massive row about it, and they basically fielded champions.

906
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:04,000
They had a barney.

907
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:14,000
Sigismund basically managed to beat the Einhansel champion, and Ferris has basically walked away being like, fuck, we looked weak, you know, like we're pissed.

908
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:17,000
Yeah, and he basically like took that guy aside, and was just like-

909
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:18,000
Why do you suck?

910
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:21,000
Guess who's getting beaten tonight, just saying.

911
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:27,000
Because that was the kind of guy that Ferris was, like, if you fail, I'm going to make you pay for it.

912
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:28,000
The whole thing was-

913
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,000
I'm going to whup your ass.

914
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:43,000
A slight thing as well, the Einhansel are not friends with their Primarch, like, as much as like, a lot of them are like, you know, oh, friends, you're my sons, Ferris, Manus, and Merriman are just like, I'm your commander, that's all I am to you, you're soldiers first.

915
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:45,000
So there's a cool bit there.

916
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:52,000
And yeah, they're extremely loyal, and they love him, but they are like, it's like a stern dad, but stern dad is also like-

917
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,000
Because he just wants them to beat better.

918
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:55,000
Fighting.

919
01:24:55,000 --> 01:25:14,000
There's also the events called the War on Gardenaal, which is basically, they find a planet where essentially humans are sort of produced in, I don't know, they're not vat-grown, but essentially people just get to, like, basically the nobles essentially get their gene seed.

920
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:25,000
Shall we say, spread out amongst the population, and the, there are literal billions upon billions of humans on this planet, and it's like sort of small empire, and the Einhans are having to fight them.

921
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:35,000
They have like terrible, like, basically modern day guns versus Einhans, but there's so many of them, like, all the Einhans weapons keep getting clogged up with meat and horrific things.

922
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:45,000
And then this is where they find out, like, there's an assassination plot on Ferris Manus where there's kind of like the old members of the nobility are on like a life support.

923
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:57,000
They basically have like what a dreadnought should be if it's like a futuristic sci-fi, and they manage to like sneak in to the main capital ship, and Ferris Manus by the way, his throne is inside a vault.

924
01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:00,000
Like he made an actual vault inside the ship.

925
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:12,000
Which doesn't, which actually gets turned against him, because one of the guards outside, he basically has like a bomb trigger, and he basically starts vomiting up acid and just locks the doors.

926
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:19,000
And they try, and then the two, a psyker and this sort of massive sci-fi dreadnought try and assassinate Ferris.

927
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:28,000
So the psyker like tortures his mind with like visions of his old life, and him basically surviving as a baby, fighting a necron thing.

928
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:38,000
And then this massive dreadnought, we have like plasma futuristic cannons, which is where the, as I said earlier, Ferris is able to recognize technology that's beyond even Imperial stuff.

929
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:47,000
But Ferris just just, there's one great bit, basically he ends up winning, and the dreadnought guy basically gets smashed apart.

930
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:49,000
And then the psyker guy goes, I'm so sorry.

931
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:51,000
In fact, maybe we could work together.

932
01:26:51,000 --> 01:27:05,000
Before we can finish that sentence, it literally says like Ferris just literally caves his hammer into the guy and it goes so hard, it like dents the wall of the actual vault that he built.

933
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:07,000
He said he hits it so hard.

934
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:11,000
I'm not locked in here with you. You're locked in here with me. Bonk.

935
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:17,000
He said he hits it so hard, he actually caves in the inside of the almost impenetrable vault door that he made.

936
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:21,000
It's pretty awesome. It's a great art there.

937
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:22,000
Imagine being on the other side of it and you're just like, can you hear anything?

938
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:25,000
And all you just hear is bonk.

939
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:29,000
He rockets Fulgrim's hammer that he made.

940
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:46,000
One of the last few bits of the Great Crusade is, towards the end, they have a small bit of lore where they mention, they're kind of worried that they basically got overshadowed by mostly other legions, because a lot of them, again, the Emperor kind of has, yeah, the Emperor had favorites, and they basically have to come to terms with the fact

941
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:56,000
that Ferris sort of, at one point he tries to sort of act like how Fulgrim or Giliman would, where he starts to negotiate with people and things like that, and it always ends up in failure.

942
01:27:56,000 --> 01:28:02,000
So he basically goes, what the hell am I doing? The Emperor's already got a Giliman. I'm Ferris effing Manus.

943
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:07,000
So he ends up, I'm just the guy who rocks up and destroys planets. I don't need to be more complicated than that.

944
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:13,000
I'm just loving the idea of him in a negotiation, like, hi there. I'm the diplomat from the so-and-so. He's like, hi there.

945
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:23,000
I'm Hammer. I'm going to kill you. Do you like hands? What? And he just, he's frustrated. He's just like me.

946
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:32,000
He basically sort of has a, comes to clarity, man, where he just says, I shouldn't, you know, other than the ones of, you know, Vulcan's a crafter,

947
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:39,000
Giliman's a diplomat, the lion's a leader, Horus is the charismatic one, who they basically- Sanguinius is hot.

948
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:48,000
Yeah. They kind of, they kind of recognize, again, funny Lord Tibbet as well. There's a funny Lord Tibbet we should mention as well.

949
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:56,000
I probably haven't mentioned it so far. Ferris Manus literally has iron hands from the tomb scorpion thing being melted onto his arms.

950
01:28:56,000 --> 01:29:04,000
Also, the Lord Tibbet where Pertorabo, the iron warriors, asks why is he such great friends with Fulgrim?

951
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:10,000
And it's the only time Ferris Manus ever laughed around another Primarch other than Fulgrim because basically he just doesn't get it.

952
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:18,000
Because Ferris Manus, literally him and Fulgrim are such bros. They're like, they are vulnerable with each other. It's cool. It's not cringe.

953
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:23,000
Am I right in thinking that he didn't like anyone calling him the Gorgon apart from Fulgrim?

954
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:32,000
Yeah, because that was- It was like- He liked that it intimidated people to be called that. But if one of his sons was like, right Gorgon, he'd be like-

955
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:34,000
No, you fucking don't.

956
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:42,000
That's like someone else referencing your mate's group chat, but they're not in it. So, you know, like that's just like you got to stay out your damn lane.

957
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:56,000
And the last bit of the Great Crusade lore was the battle with the Empress Georgian with the Diasporax, which like the human slash Xenos fleets that were sort of roaming around.

958
01:29:56,000 --> 01:30:07,000
And basically, this is pretty much the start of the- the Heresy is about to start and they kind of upshow the Emperor's children in this last bit.

959
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:19,000
Well, Fulgrim feels like they got upshone when Ferris Manus basically ends up destroying this fleet of non-compliant humans and aliens and the Heresy sort of will start shortly after.

960
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:32,000
Horus Heresy lore, Isvon V, we know what happens with that. They basically- Yeah, the Iron Hands sort of overextend, whereas the other two were trying to run back and retreat.

961
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:39,000
Because the other Primarchs were like, we need to- you know, the next wave's coming. We need to fall back. And he went, no, I can get Fulgrim. I'm close, bro.

962
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:51,000
And him and all the first company, all the Terminators, the Terminators couldn't keep up. I feel so bad. Like Gabriel Santel was like, huffing it. Because Iron Hand Terminators, by the way.

963
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:56,000
Biggie is imagining the poor faller going like, dad, please, mate.

964
01:30:56,000 --> 01:31:08,000
It doesn't- it really doesn't get across how like Iron Hand Terminators are massive because they have like- they've got- they have- they don't need to carry guns in their hands because the guns on their backpack, you know what I mean?

965
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:19,000
Oh yeah. They're pretty- they are massive, but they- so they try to keep up with poor Ferris. Ferris dies to Fulgrim. Very sad. And the Iron Hands-

966
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:25,000
Even sadder that he actually wins the fight, but then the Lair Blade is like, ha ha ha. And it's like, takes control of Fulgrim.

967
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:29,000
There's a small- And then Fulgrim's like, no, no, no, no, no. Oh no. It's a small little-

968
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:30,000
Big sword strikes.

969
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:45,000
They almost- most people don't remember that part, which is, Ferris is about to kind of kill Fulgrim, but then like the demon surges up and then sort of overpowers him. So he was kind of- I mean, to be fair, he kind of lost before when he was trying to get-

970
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:54,000
He'd been like stamped in the chest and then like he dropped the Fire Blade and then he went to grab it and then Fulgrim's like, I don't want to kill him. And then the blade went, aah.

971
01:31:54,000 --> 01:32:04,000
I know, I meant when Fulgrim tried to recruit him, he basically got knocked out by Fulgrim and he was like so embarrassed. He was so embarrassed.

972
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:09,000
Fulgrim bodies, dude. Fulgrim literally bodies. Fulgrim haters, cope and seethe.

973
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:17,000
Fulgrim stole his hammer and knocked him down. But the Iron Hands at this point basically get shattered.

974
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:29,000
And so, but funny enough, even though the Iron Hands, the ones that overextended, they actually have all the other shattered legions, they get the most out. So actually a few thousand of them are managing to run away.

975
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:38,000
There's a cool short story where actually some of them, they actually formed a friendship with some world eaters during the Great Crusade and then they see them again and they go-

976
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:39,000
Yeah.

977
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:44,000
Because they're like the void combat with them. And they see them again, they go, what the shit.

978
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:49,000
And they have the shields, don't they? And they're like, and then the world is like, shields are cringe now.

979
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:50,000
Yeah.

980
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:51,000
What's going on with you?

981
01:32:51,000 --> 01:33:00,000
Iron Hands actually had like a phalanx sort of, they actually had good tactics. But again, when a world eater lore happens and it can punch a custodies.

982
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:01,000
When he's like, well-

983
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:03,000
Jack Nicholson-ing from Shining going, ah.

984
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:05,000
Oh, Tom Warren, thank you brother for the five bucks.

985
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:09,000
Good doing this stream just in time to hear Fulgrim, I'm close bro.

986
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:11,000
Thank you.

987
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:12,000
Thank you brother.

988
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:17,000
Sorry, this is the most amount of lore for all the shattered legion, that's why it's a bit longer than that.

989
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:19,000
Don't Fulgrim all over my iron hands.

990
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:21,000
I'm Fulgrim-ing.

991
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:23,000
Oh, stop.

992
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:30,000
Basically, the legion is pretty much broken and this is where lots of new ideologies start to form.

993
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:40,000
So a lot of the different sort of groups, some of them don't even want to work together because the other, they already have the clan system within a legion shattered where their Primarch is dead.

994
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:53,000
So they don't really work together as well. A lot of them want to fall back onto what previously was before Ferris was called an Iron Fathers Council where like clan leaders would eventually decide something.

995
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:56,000
So they actually had like a democracy in some way and they wanted to do that.

996
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:58,000
Democracy?

997
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:02,000
Yeah, democracy has failed. You're the chosen one.

998
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:05,000
Iron Father? Boff.

999
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:08,000
You're meant to destroy the Emperor's children, not join them.

1000
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:15,000
I do like how there's just like a lot of bickering as well, all the clans like, hey, Oi, Averni, where were you?

1001
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:18,000
It's like, we were on Istvarn, that's why we're all dead.

1002
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:22,000
And there's like a lot of just complaining and Shadrachs are just there going, ah.

1003
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:23,000
Nonsense.

1004
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:24,000
Good, is it?

1005
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:30,000
Yeah. So this is where the character Shadrach Medusen comes about. He's a Terranborn, which they kind of do look down upon a little bit.

1006
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:31,000
Except the iron hands.

1007
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:38,000
Because he's not, he has to get, all the Terrans have to get adopted into some of the clans. They're kind of seen as like, you know, your late comers.

1008
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:49,000
But Shadrach Medusen sort of becomes a leader at this time because he basically says, listen, we're like an alloy that's been, we're like a steel or a hammer that's been broken.

1009
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:53,000
Ferris is dead. Clearly our ideologies are wrong.

1010
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:57,000
And he says, we have the other shattered legions here. We have got Raven Guard and Salamanders.

1011
01:34:57,000 --> 01:35:03,000
Let's, well, I think the quote was, let's alloy them to our steel to make ourselves stronger.

1012
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:12,000
So they basically saw a guerrilla warfare fight. So they incorporate like guerrilla warfare, specifically from the Raven Guard in a lot of places.

1013
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:17,000
They often use like, the Salamanders to be fair, they don't use a lot of the Salamander tactics in this game.

1014
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:19,000
They're nice guys, they can stay.

1015
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:23,000
The Salamanders are particularly used as sort of like a backbone in a way for the Legion.

1016
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:27,000
There's not as many Salamanders to be fair, quite a lot of them.

1017
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:31,000
The thing is, it's like the Iron Hands had like the biggest losses, but they were also the biggest Legion.

1018
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,000
So it's like, there's still a lot.

1019
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:36,000
And then the Raven Guard, there's not many, but they're really potent.

1020
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:39,000
So it's like, I want to get behind them and go.

1021
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:47,000
The Shadrach Medusen storyline is basically they end up pretty much really annoying the crap out of the Traitor Legion.

1022
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:54,000
So the point where they eventually would have a confrontation where the character Tybalt Ma, who are the Sons of Horus.

1023
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:55,000
Fuck that guy.

1024
01:35:55,000 --> 01:36:04,000
Basically the guy who sort of ended up joining the Mourn of Orl really late, like the late comers, you know, like standing next to Abaddon going, you know, hey, I'm one of you guys.

1025
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:06,000
He's like, yeah, sure.

1026
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:10,000
He does, poor Shadrach Medusen actually does end up getting beheaded.

1027
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:12,000
So another Iron Hand beheaded.

1028
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:26,000
There's also a weird part where there's a cult of the Gorgon form here where they basically find like a severed arm of Ferris Manus and they attach it to this weird mechanical doll and they create a cult around it because their minds are so broken.

1029
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:29,000
Yeah, it's pretty horrible.

1030
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:31,000
And Vulcan is like, what is that?

1031
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:33,000
Yeah, Vulcan finds Vulcan.

1032
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:35,000
They say to Vulcan, oh, Ferris Manus lives.

1033
01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:36,000
Come check this out.

1034
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:39,000
And they're like, that's my mutilated brother's corpse.

1035
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:40,000
Oh my God.

1036
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:42,000
It's not living very well.

1037
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:44,000
You're not doing that in my presence, guys.

1038
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:47,000
And then there's a story called the Keys of Hell.

1039
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:54,000
Basically, there's a technology found in the Great Crusade that Ferris Manus basically said, never use that.

1040
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:55,000
That thing is forbidden.

1041
01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:56,000
Do not do it.

1042
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:57,000
It's something called the Keys of Hell.

1043
01:36:57,000 --> 01:37:08,000
It basically inverts your mind in upon itself and you kind of turn into like a walking servitor, but you basically have the operational efficiency of a space marine.

1044
01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:13,000
So a lot of them did it to stop feeling the pain of what went through because of Istvan.

1045
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:15,000
So there's an entire group that...

1046
01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:16,000
You can be dead.

1047
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:18,000
Yeah, you basically, you're walking dead.

1048
01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:19,000
Oh, good.

1049
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:21,000
Geez. Recycling.

1050
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:30,000
It's pre... they describe in the book as quite a few of the other Iron Hands find the group that have turned... they call it the turning of the Keys of Hell.

1051
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:35,000
And they basically look at them and they go, oh my God, what have you done?

1052
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:36,000
That's horrific.

1053
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:38,000
And they're like in the ship and they're like, why is it so warm?

1054
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:39,000
And then they all disappear.

1055
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:41,000
And it's like, why is it so cold?

1056
01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:43,000
And they find them in the freezer like, oh.

1057
01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:44,000
And they basically catch on ice.

1058
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:46,000
And he's like, what is that?

1059
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:47,000
It's Iron Hands stuff.

1060
01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:48,000
Don't worry.

1061
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:49,000
It's fine.

1062
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:50,000
Don't worry, bro.

1063
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:51,000
It's pretty much the opposite.

1064
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:59,000
Like Ferris Manus's whole thing was, all right, we'll do the Great Crusade and then I'll like heal my sons in their like wounded soul.

1065
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:00,000
I'll get rid of their necrodermis arms.

1066
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:02,000
Their reliance on technology.

1067
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:11,000
You know, they call this is where the problem they the flesh is weak actually comes from something like Vulcan said, not actually what Simon Ferris said.

1068
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:15,000
Vulcan said the flesh is weak, but deeds endure.

1069
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:21,000
So it's meant to be like the whole reason is like they do this war because they're building a future for humanity's Golden Age.

1070
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:29,000
So that was OK for them to like do all these things to their bodies in the name of something greater and eventually they wouldn't have to.

1071
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:34,000
And then that basically never happened because all they could remember from Ferris's words were the flesh is weak.

1072
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:41,000
So all they said basically the Iron Hands just hate themselves a lot because again, they're the legion that failed at Isfahan.

1073
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:42,000
They failed their Primarch.

1074
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:44,000
They failed the Imperium.

1075
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:56,000
And Ferris had a diary and he was like, dear diary, one day I'm going to take the metal off my arms and I'm going to make my sons understand that it's OK to be human.

1076
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:59,000
It's OK to chill and be like, you know what?

1077
01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:03,000
Maybe an Org-Metic laser eye socket isn't so cool.

1078
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:05,000
He writes down his later.

1079
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:10,000
He admits his own biggest weakness, which is the fact that he relies on his metal arms too much.

1080
01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:12,000
He gets he's embarrassed to tell anyone.

1081
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:14,000
So poor Ferris.

1082
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:16,000
I think I mentioned earlier about the mention.

1083
01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:19,000
Then don't call your freaking legion the Iron Hands.

1084
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:20,000
The Iron Hands.

1085
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:28,000
Oopsies. Poor bad. And I think I mentioned the early big goofed it.

1086
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:29,000
Oh, sad. Couldn't hear you.

1087
01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:30,000
Oh, cringe.

1088
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:31,000
Oh, sorry.

1089
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:32,000
Leon Leon.

1090
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:33,000
Thank you again.

1091
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:34,000
Thank you. Holy cow.

1092
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:38,000
He says, I give it to Fulgrim about Ferris, but Dawn makes him look like a bitch.

1093
01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:44,000
I mean, what Fulgrim beats Dorn Dorn and said Fulgrim was going to kill him.

1094
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:45,000
And he didn't leave.

1095
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:47,000
Like what happened to the Sieger of Terror?

1096
01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:50,000
He got Sigismund and Dorn.

1097
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:52,000
But he left. He left because he was bored.

1098
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:57,000
And then Dorn later said, OK, yeah, bro, I swear I'm yeah, I'm the Phoenix Lord of Cove.

1099
01:39:57,000 --> 01:39:59,000
Yeah, bro. I love my favorite.

1100
01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:02,000
Dorn literally said that Fulgrim was going to beat him if he didn't.

1101
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:04,000
It's just a confidence issue.

1102
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:06,000
My favorite Fulgrim fight is him versus Gilliman.

1103
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:10,000
He gets Gilliman and then I own it feel who's like the sergeant who becomes a captain.

1104
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:13,000
He's just like, run away.

1105
01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:14,000
Grab him.

1106
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:15,000
Get out of here.

1107
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:17,000
Yeah, it's time to leave.

1108
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:19,000
He has too many freaking arms.

1109
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:24,000
Also, the moment you become a demon Primarch, the moment you never take a W again.

1110
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:28,000
Fulgrim taking any W's at all is pretty massive.

1111
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:30,000
I'm going to destroy that planet.

1112
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:32,000
Yeah, but then he got beat up by the lion.

1113
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:36,000
So, you know, you don't take a W against loyalist Primarchs usually.

1114
01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:41,000
Mortarion got an F from what? Jagatai, Aldo Drago.

1115
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:45,000
Oh my gosh, and Gilliman.

1116
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:47,000
The F-4 does.

1117
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:49,000
Gilliman to kick him in the nuts.

1118
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:53,000
But when Lorgar found him in the warp and he was within the car already,

1119
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:57,000
he was taking something that was way different than L or W could even describe.

1120
01:40:57,000 --> 01:41:01,000
So thank you for that, GW.

1121
01:41:01,000 --> 01:41:03,000
I think I mentioned earlier about Bion Henrykos.

1122
01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:09,000
He was the guy who helped sort of discover how they traversed the warp.

1123
01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:11,000
And he was the one with like Hibu Khan.

1124
01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:14,000
And then they cut off a little Horus Axeman's face.

1125
01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:16,000
Yeah, and Hibu had his Zwei hander.

1126
01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:17,000
I mentioned that earlier.

1127
01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:20,000
You know what? I like katanas. This is actually pretty cool.

1128
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:23,000
It's big, isn't it? Yeah, it's very big.

1129
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:29,000
The fact that I'll say my rant to the end about what they need to make for 40k tabletop.

1130
01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:32,000
But one of the last few characters is called Ortec Maw.

1131
01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:37,000
I haven't actually read the full short story or book he's in.

1132
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:39,000
But it does mention like his role.

1133
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:44,000
Ortec Maw was the guy earlier who I mentioned who would like duel people for fun.

1134
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:49,000
And a massive cock. Like he's just like nothing likable about him.

1135
01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:54,000
He went on to form another chapter after the heresy of like just the worst of all the Iron Hands.

1136
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:55,000
The red talons?

1137
01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:57,000
Yeah, they are literally described as the worst.

1138
01:41:57,000 --> 01:41:59,000
And I think they destroy some world DC facilities.

1139
01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:06,000
I think, Andy, you might know a bit more about what does Ortec Maw do that is really horrific during the Horus heresy?

1140
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:13,000
I can't recall exactly, but I'm sure it's something to do with like acceptable losses of allies.

1141
01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:14,000
He's one of those kind of guys.

1142
01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:21,000
I think it was Ortec Maw. He wants to find a weapon that was being kept by another shattered legion.

1143
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:25,000
And so they end up attacking their own loyalist brothers because they're basically like, we need it.

1144
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:27,000
Who cares? We don't even care.

1145
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:31,000
Like he's very much just to justify the means. I don't care.

1146
01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:38,000
He has like that like heavily like tattooed face and that look in his pictures is like, I'll cut you.

1147
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:42,000
It's like, yeah, that's a he's got crazy eyes. Leave him alone.

1148
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:47,000
He looks like he looks like he has always, in fact, been in prison.

1149
01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:50,000
Like this guy is intimidating.

1150
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:54,000
And that's kind of the end of like, again, like end of the heresy.

1151
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:58,000
They kind of get split. And there's barely any Iron Hands left.

1152
01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:06,000
And the ones that they do have, they're so the ideologies, like a lot of them either hate Ferris, like Ferris,

1153
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:09,000
mourn Ferris, or didn't never in the first.

1154
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:15,000
There's quite a few of them who never in the first place agreed, agreed to the fact they should have someone who has central role,

1155
01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:20,000
because again, they were Medusans who don't like serving under someone.

1156
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:26,000
So when they were all put back into the Iron Hands, they were just like divided and ruined.

1157
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:33,000
The last bit here. I was going to say, I think it's also sad that like Shadrach had like a proper like he was Terran born.

1158
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:40,000
The reason he's called Medusan is because he renamed himself to be a son of Medusa, hence Medusan, son of Medusa.

1159
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:47,000
So he was like, I know I'm from terror, not from your world, but let's band together and like make the best out of a bad situation.

1160
01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:55,000
And then could have been the could have been like the Raptors version.

1161
01:43:55,000 --> 01:44:00,000
Of like a legion or like a group with tactics wise.

1162
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:04,000
But then that just got ruined and then Ortec more left him to die as well.

1163
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:12,000
One of the other characters I mentioned earlier who stepped down to be his second in command, like an actual iron barber after he had been obliterated.

1164
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:15,000
And he's like the last senior senior. He's like his mentor.

1165
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:19,000
It's like, it's OK, Shadrach, I've got your back. Wink.

1166
01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:25,000
Yeah. So the iron hands at the end of the seizure, at the end of the horrors, they are great.

1167
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:28,000
They are broken in more ways than you can think.

1168
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:31,000
They really like none of them like themselves anymore because they are there.

1169
01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:38,000
There are failures in like physiologically failures in ideology and failures in achievement.

1170
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:42,000
So they are pretty grim dark bit of slight bit.

1171
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:45,000
Just last bit. Post heresy law.

1172
01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:51,000
They only agreed to the Codex Astartes because they were offered Ferris Manus's skull.

1173
01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:59,000
At the end of his skull was retrieved by the same skull that Horus when he was like going proper mad was like, Ferris, let me tell you something.

1174
01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:02,000
I'm going to be a great new emperor.

1175
01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:13,000
I just I still find that my slang in my body twinges every time I read that part where like Fulgrim just drops like the prime like first is like dead skull.

1176
01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:15,000
And then Horus goes plop.

1177
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:23,000
And then Horus says like the plucked out silver looking eyes are there like just hollow things judging him.

1178
01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:29,000
He's like even Horus goes, oh, this is fucked up.

1179
01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:36,000
I know that you know that I'm a demon and not actually Fulgrim but plop and Horus.

1180
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:44,000
Four iron hands, a lot of them, their whole legion basically, again I said earlier, they basically decorate traitor ships from the entire thing.

1181
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:54,000
They're like basically I think they even say at the end of Isfahan 5 like loads of them are like their corpses are crucified and you know they take the biggest of elves.

1182
01:45:54,000 --> 01:46:10,000
So again they post-Horus stuff, they do get codex Astarte but there's only like three because again there's barely any iron hands, although the iron hands do kind of slightly take on the structure of the Astarte's, the codex Astarte's grain of, yeah.

1183
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:15,000
Although what's his name, crazy eyes from the red talons, he's just like.

1184
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:35,000
They kind of, yeah they grain of salt the codex so they do have their own weird system, they have a, they are led really, they are, Chattamaster is elected for periods of time and then they have something called a iron council where essentially like old dreadnoughts and old members of the legion are like plugged into a computer.

1185
01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:46,000
And they also venerate dreadnoughts more, they're like, why scars, ew, dreadnought, ew, iron fathers are like I can't wait to get mutilated.

1186
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:50,000
That thing's so cool, all I want to be a dreadnought when I grow up.

1187
01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:56,000
Dreadnoughts to them are like being VTubers to Colin, so I'm not stray, but essentially like it is the ideal.

1188
01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:58,000
I don't want to be a Vtuber.

1189
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:01,000
It is the ideal form.

1190
01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:11,000
They look at dreadnoughts and they're like, look at the angle on that, that is pinky.

1191
01:47:11,000 --> 01:47:32,000
Yeah, technology, they also in the modern 40, first millennium, they don't actually worship the emperor they are part of the mechanicus, they, as in like they worship the machine god. So they actually they praise the Omniscience machine god, mostly, so they're not actually kind of, they're the only ones that will redo that as well I think.

1192
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:42,000
Some of the ones maybe venerate in some way, but being a tech priest is big.

1193
01:47:42,000 --> 01:48:03,000
Are we going to be like, emperor is the Omniscience or the Omniscience is a separate entity, and there was this, and then they were like, all right, right, right, right, and then some of them do so we're like, oh, we're weird bespoke chapter that was made from the conflict, and they have all the best gear, they're like, that's a pretty good deal.

1194
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:13,000
And then the system, although many the old clans have fallen only, I think, clan of Ernie is remaining. That's the first company kind of thing.

1195
01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:34,000
So you're all weak, you can't be clans anymore. Also, there's a weird thing now where in the last thing is which is something called the forge chain, where previously you just like assigned to clans, or you were born to clans in the great crusade area.

1196
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:47,000
And at some point so you actually have like a sort of, I don't remember the word is but you have like a short stint was a short like a few decades in each clan, and basically each clan has its own sort of iconography or symbol that you're attached to your forge chain,

1197
01:48:47,000 --> 01:49:06,000
which is essentially saying, here's my badge of honor, I learned all the things I need to know from that clan, but by the end of it you end up looking like a machine thing because one clan ends up putting a cybernetic like spinal imprint, one that gives you like a technological imprint into your brain.

1198
01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:24,000
And by the end of it you are basically a tech freester, by any means, and a lot my last rant is I want this so bad, which is iron hands, they don't need characters and they just need one thing which is they need the hell fathers, which is like units where the hell fathers are from the keys of

1199
01:49:24,000 --> 01:49:41,000
hell. Short story, the keys of hell is where they basically went to, you know, they lost their minds. They still exist within the iron hands, but they're basically the guardians of the iron council, they are essentially things that were human, but now like machine things

1200
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:55,000
input like interred within their Terminator armor and they should carry around as why hand is not my rant over. That's the iron hands. Yeah, it sounds like rubric marine type of stuff, but they smell of oil and rotten meat.

1201
01:49:55,000 --> 01:50:13,000
There's a cool bit in the one book where they wanted the iron hands and like a human they actually just spot a hell father, and even the iron hands are scared of the hell fathers could basically go. That thing has no human emotion whatsoever in it.

1202
01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:28,000
And that thing, the when the humans walk around them they basically just like look around at people and they kind of turn like sort of terminators, and they absolutely should be a unit because they would be ridiculously cool. And that's iron hands, hopefully people like iron hands a bit more now.

1203
01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:33,000
Some respect on my, my grind for iron hands law.

1204
01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:43,000
The last one I think Andy though is, well, do they even exist can we see their law.

1205
01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:50,000
So yeah, let's talk about, can we get a car car in the

1206
01:50:50,000 --> 01:51:03,000
All Shattered Legion is basically iron hands law. So that's pretty much have it. But let's, let's, and again like the the trouble with especially researching the stealth Legion.

1207
01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:08,000
They don't really leave many tracks. Okay, so great crusade.

1208
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:28,000
So the Raven guard weren't known as the Raven guard before core x obviously, but we don't know what they were really cool. So we just the 19th and the 19th were basically the assassins of the Emperor, not like Alpha Legion assassins where it's will leave no trace, it was like, oh, Terran warlord, will you join the

1209
01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:38,000
Imperium. No.

1210
01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:40,000
It's that kind of like assassination.

1211
01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:45,000
Sounds less of an assassination more of like a mafia shakedown.

1212
01:51:45,000 --> 01:52:01,000
Raven garden unification like, I'm gonna give him an offer Campbell fuse. Anyway, so they were like the assassins of the Emperor covert operations reconnaissance, but not in an alpha Legion way where it's cringe.

1213
01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:16,000
They were drawn primarily from the Asiatic dust fields of terror, and it would be two centuries so 200 years before they were reunited with their primer. That's all I really can say about unification was.

1214
01:52:16,000 --> 01:52:26,000
They're just too good at hiding. They didn't leave any trace of what they did. I think Horace use him as like his own sidearm at some point. Oh sorry I got too far ahead of myself.

1215
01:52:26,000 --> 01:52:31,000
He used them as something.

1216
01:52:31,000 --> 01:52:33,000
He did he did that and he lies.

1217
01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:43,000
Doing something. What are you doing, you know, I was just getting camera right my little, my little message my mommy mental that I go into class.

1218
01:52:43,000 --> 01:52:57,000
So yeah, so basically the most interesting thing about chat I'm getting to that. Anyway, so the most interesting thing is like okay so Raven guard. Let's talk about that primer Corvus corrects nevermore nevermore car car car.

1219
01:52:57,000 --> 01:53:14,000
So, he was found on the moon of lice as which is in orbit of the forge world of key of our now key of our is ruled by a tech guild so imagine an aristocratic version of the mechanic us, and they have a workforce.

1220
01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:25,000
And for the resources they need for the factory on key of our, they enslaved the people on their orbiting moon of lice as which is a mining colony sort of thing.

1221
01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:33,000
So a bunch of people that were like, we found this golf baby. Okay cool. Found this like hot topic child.

1222
01:53:33,000 --> 01:53:39,000
It's very funny. Even though you have the eyeliner on and everything you're like, golf baby.

1223
01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:49,000
Cool. Cool. This is cool. I can't believe he's already got like long hair but like what's going on. Oh, clearly.

1224
01:53:49,000 --> 01:53:57,000
He's our savior. We don't own any eyeliner. How is this happening so clearly, our savior.

1225
01:53:57,000 --> 01:54:10,000
We need to keep him away from the tech guilds and so they basically like hit him under the floorboards, and they nurtured him and a band of people like, I can't remember her name but there was a lady who looked after him for a baby, and she went on to be

1226
01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:24,000
like, I can't believe they actually hide him under the floorboards as well. That's so funny. That's in the book. They actually hide him. They literally do. And there's one point where the guards go in and they're like kindly old man is like, I don't have a golf baby.

1227
01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:35,000
Why would I have one of those. And they do like a proper like, looking, do you have a golf baby, and they shine the torch directly at Corax and he's there like,

1228
01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:47,000
I don't have a son. And they're like, that's weird. And it turns out, Corax has this ability called rave slipping, where you can look directly at him and not see him.

1229
01:54:47,000 --> 01:54:52,000
Much like me in the dating market.

1230
01:54:52,000 --> 01:55:00,000
I'm a warhammer guy, what can I say. Anyway, so basically, I think one of us is married.

1231
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:06,000
He's built like a bodybuilder. That's like the guns get girls as they say.

1232
01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:17,000
The most important thing to remember is that golf baby Corax is like, oh, I'm actually quite good at this hiding thing in it. Nice.

1233
01:55:17,000 --> 01:55:31,000
And the kindly people of Lycée are like, oh, that's handy. As far as hiding a baby goes, oh, that's a good thing to have. So they managed to hide him. And as time goes on, they're like, oh, bloody hell, he's growing.

1234
01:55:31,000 --> 01:55:37,000
How many sandwiches has he eaten? 20 a day? Geez, he's grown fast.

1235
01:55:37,000 --> 01:55:49,000
Hello, Lutie McShootie. We've got a donation. Hello, brother. Thank you. Lutie McShootie, veteran of law crimes, $4.99, saying New DLC unlocked, Doge on bed, congratulations.

1236
01:55:49,000 --> 01:55:57,000
But still messy. And what are you guys going to do in the DOE Warhouse stream? I can't make the bed when the dogs are on it. Also, the dog has moved.

1237
01:55:57,000 --> 01:56:07,000
They're like, what did you say? What is Doug's name? The brown one is Jazz and the black one's Athena. Everyone in the chat say hello, Jazz and Athena.

1238
01:56:07,000 --> 01:56:16,000
The funny one's called Jazz and the one's called Model Jazz. We'll do an AOE Warhammer stream when Colin gets the rousing for it, I guess. Probably.

1239
01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:26,000
The what? The rousing. There's no E before that. What does that mean? Like you roused, you waking up type of thing. I don't know.

1240
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:36,000
What is the age of empires? Age of eternity? Oh, sorry. I thought that was age of Sigmar. AOE. I don't know if you mean area of effect Warhammer stream.

1241
01:56:36,000 --> 01:56:42,000
Last radius. Did you mean age of Sigmar? I don't know. I have to go to class, though.

1242
01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:53,000
Feels bad. You know, I have to actually get studies. You get to miss all of that Raven guard lore. Oh, no.

1243
01:56:53,000 --> 01:56:58,000
Jake was like, I just noticed the Venus. Yeah. Proper Raven guard dog. Yeah.

1244
01:56:58,000 --> 01:57:08,000
Hiding in plain sight. Have fun talking about the Raven guard for the next 10 minutes, fellas. We planned this. This was all planned. Yeah, this works.

1245
01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:13,000
Sorry, fellas. Farewell. Love you. Long time.

1246
01:57:13,000 --> 01:57:23,000
Bye. Van is just like Raven guard lore. I will miss you all. I'll be seeing you all next Friday. Bye.

1247
01:57:23,000 --> 01:57:28,000
Now we talk about the real Raven guard lore. Yeah.

1248
01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:48,000
I can't be Raven guard lore without someone disappearing. Anyway, so, Tikorax managed to hide in the, under the floorboards of Lyceus until one day he went, you know what, slavery is cringe.

1249
01:57:48,000 --> 01:58:00,000
I'm going to, you know, I'm, I, for some reason, I'm way taller than everyone, and I'm well stronger than everyone, and I'm malnourished as heck. So I don't get how this works. But I'm also really good at hiding.

1250
01:58:00,000 --> 01:58:14,000
Let's do a bit of sneaky sabotage. And over a few years they managed to band together, and they use, and they, and then they use like, hit and ram tactics and sabotage and espionage, but not in a cringely.

1251
01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:18,000
It's literally the scene.

1252
01:58:18,000 --> 01:58:29,000
Morgan Freeman see Nana's video is literally that it's like, I'm creeping in your, and play nine inch nails. Exactly. So you're getting in step.

1253
01:58:29,000 --> 01:58:44,000
And then you're in the background and corks is like, slavery was cringe bomb, bomb, bomb, and eventually they like, orbitally bombard key of our, because of like well we're up here and on the moon. Screw these guys.

1254
01:58:44,000 --> 01:58:47,000
It's just like kill them all.

1255
01:58:47,000 --> 01:58:51,000
So they do have, and the Emperor is watching this and go, Oh, that's good.

1256
01:58:51,000 --> 01:58:54,000
I like that.

1257
01:58:54,000 --> 01:59:04,000
And then the Emperor's like, you did good kid, you did, you did good big, and he goes, Yeah, I like your hot topic aesthetic.

1258
01:59:04,000 --> 01:59:11,000
Here's the 19th Legion. Funny fact, they're also like good assassinations and espionage, who'd a funk.

1259
01:59:11,000 --> 01:59:25,000
So, corrects goes you know what lysis, I don't like that name. I'm going to spruce it up, we're going to call this moon deliverance in that nice, and then he is known as the liberator of deliverance.

1260
01:59:25,000 --> 01:59:30,000
They put their fortress monastery there, he takes up the 19th Legion and goes.

1261
01:59:30,000 --> 01:59:32,000
All right.

1262
01:59:32,000 --> 01:59:34,000
Here's the deal Emperor.

1263
01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:46,000
I'll be, I'll be your commander, I'll be a general, but I'm not going to do any of that cringe slavery or oppression or tenor tyranny, because that's bad.

1264
01:59:46,000 --> 01:59:48,000
And the Emperor goes,

1265
01:59:48,000 --> 01:59:52,000
Well, we'll talk about that later. Okay, that's good enough for me.

1266
01:59:52,000 --> 01:59:57,000
And you will get back to it. We'll put a pin on that.

1267
01:59:57,000 --> 02:00:16,000
And so after liberating deliverance, and to an extent, key of our core actually names the 19th Legion as the Raven guard because there's a theme, funnily enough, and they conduct compliances across the stars, and they are well known for hit and run tactics,

1268
02:00:16,000 --> 02:00:30,000
and liberating oppressed people like the Emperor I just imagine him being like, right, we need to find out all the planets, where there's like a grievance with some oppression or tyranny be like, correct, can go there, and there, and there, just to not get on his bad side.

1269
02:00:30,000 --> 02:00:36,000
It's the no I'm Spartacus but then no one yells it they just whisper it. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

1270
02:00:36,000 --> 02:00:40,000
Repeat, like the best stuff.

1271
02:00:40,000 --> 02:00:42,000
And so, yeah.

1272
02:00:42,000 --> 02:00:55,000
And that's basically it. There is something to note that there was a there was an incident called gate 42, where Horace, I believe it was Lehman Russ and correct were to do a compliance.

1273
02:00:55,000 --> 02:01:05,000
And for some stupid reason. Well, I know why horrid is like, I'm going to do his first year, how you've listened to the audio books right of the first couple books.

1274
02:01:05,000 --> 02:01:09,000
Is this a good impression of force, correct.

1275
02:01:09,000 --> 02:01:21,000
I'm going to make sure that we get compliance of this planet, and I have a very special job for you. You're going to attack them head on at the gate is like, hang on a minute.

1276
02:01:21,000 --> 02:01:24,000
My legions not good at that.

1277
02:01:24,000 --> 02:01:31,000
We're all about a bit more is a bit less. Mr Garrison South Park.

1278
02:01:31,000 --> 02:01:36,000
There's pretty is somewhat.

1279
02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:39,000
I'm going to take for gay 42. Okay.

1280
02:01:39,000 --> 02:01:43,000
And the warmest.

1281
02:01:43,000 --> 02:01:54,000
Horace has always had a problem of being like, my boys are the best therefore I don't want them to die as much as everyone else's. So I'm going to hang back a minute and core acts can take the brunt of this.

1282
02:01:54,000 --> 02:01:58,000
And like Lehman Russ is like, I will run at the gate.

1283
02:01:58,000 --> 02:02:10,000
Okay, fair enough. He's game. And they're kind of good at that. But core acts like, I don't know, and like loads, loads of Raven guard die.

1284
02:02:10,000 --> 02:02:20,000
But at the same time, core acts is not 100% a nice person, because he hates Terran's. He's like, oh, you from a cringe.

1285
02:02:20,000 --> 02:02:34,000
So we basically sent all his Terran Astarte is at the front line of that battle to try and call them. And so he was like, oh, oh, chorus you, how dare you kill so many, but he was also like, oh, that's a problem.

1286
02:02:34,000 --> 02:02:48,000
So, so yeah, I'm a bit like about core acts being a nice person that search situation, but either way, great crusade. That's all they kind of do is fun five happens.

1287
02:02:48,000 --> 02:03:02,000
They have among this possibly the single most smallest Legion, but they also have a fair bit of losses but they aren't that they're very adept as fun five for escaping because that's the whole stick.

1288
02:03:02,000 --> 02:03:21,000
They're like, if you want to survive this engagement, Raven guard are going to do the best. And so when is fun happens they kind of get split off bra need one of the lieutenants gets a vision for a mortal Imperial Guard commander that, oh no, the Raven Lord's in trouble

1289
02:03:21,000 --> 02:03:34,000
and he's like, oh, he's going to use core acts and like a bunch of the Astarte he sends a Raven to literally sends a Raven, and he's like, hi dad is like, what are you doing here is like, oh, and they all escape, which is good.

1290
02:03:34,000 --> 02:03:43,000
But core acts leaves the survival effort. And that's kind of all they do literally it's just the stuff we've already covered Raven guard are just there occasionally.

1291
02:03:43,000 --> 02:03:59,000
Which isn't that very good at just being like dead, dead, and then they disappear. They have lighter armor, a big stick. They like a pattern of armor named after them I think during the great course, Mark six the beaky, the beaky is there because they

1292
02:03:59,000 --> 02:04:15,000
tested it because they're like, it works. It's on brand, they were like, oh, that's quite chic. Oh, depends how strongly you feel about aggressively pointed on. And then there's a space was like, do you like my design system.

1293
02:04:15,000 --> 02:04:33,000
Oh, the wolf, they remade that even that's a great complaint. Oh no it's not lutey moxutey. He doesn't know don't know. Thank you brother, he's put. Well people from Earth are cringe and he's so well up within his right so yeah and I got my games mixed up and I was a, it was a total war thing.

1294
02:04:33,000 --> 02:04:50,000
I said, total war with today we. Yeah. Um, so yeah. What else can I say about the Raven guard. Not much apart from characters. So, let's go through it like the main one to talk about the premier characters Nikona Sharokin.

1295
02:04:50,000 --> 02:05:04,000
He was deployed at is fun five. He was a really good rave slipper, which means he was really good at doing that whole like looking directly at him and you can't see him. Some people reckon he was taught personally by core acts to do that because again he was on

1296
02:05:04,000 --> 02:05:14,000
deliverance. When they were liberating and he must have been like 15 or whatever like, I'll chop, I'll check a bomb. The mechanic is like, fair enough.

1297
02:05:14,000 --> 02:05:28,000
He was really good at that and some people speculate he was great. He was rescued from a fight with, I believe it was full grim. He got wounded and Sabik Wayland from the Iron Hands crowd was like, you're not done yet, come here, get in the shit.

1298
02:05:28,000 --> 02:05:36,000
And Christ like, oh, seeing stars and still a still that Muriel in mural mural mural.

1299
02:05:36,000 --> 02:05:45,000
I say it like a one on one mural mural mural mural mural mural mural in.

1300
02:05:45,000 --> 02:06:04,000
I said earlier in the video, it's a mural in Medusa still has iconic mural has that iconic moment where Sharokin is saved by cyber wayland, it's like a, that's the only thing they have like the is fun massacre is like it's pretty badass because I'm

1301
02:06:04,000 --> 02:06:11,000
pretty sure they're being attacked by full grim, and I just like the idea of so be going, come on you in the ship.

1302
02:06:11,000 --> 02:06:15,000
Looks at the prime on goes, no pilots it.

1303
02:06:15,000 --> 02:06:22,000
And again they have an interesting relationship where it's like, for the rest of the horror Cersei Sabik and Nikona.

1304
02:06:22,000 --> 02:06:35,000
They work together, like, I have, I have strengths and weaknesses you have, and they complement each other so well. So like, to give you an idea.

1305
02:06:35,000 --> 02:06:54,000
Full Grim Horus and Patra bo possibly, or maybe more Tarian, one of their assassination attempts I think it was Patra because it was the angelic so it's a robin full grim yeah yeah in that there's a point where it's two of them, so big and Nikona Sabik is spotting

1306
02:06:54,000 --> 02:06:59,000
Nikona is sniping, he shoots full grim in the head.

1307
02:06:59,000 --> 02:07:04,000
And but I was like, like, surprise Pikachu face.

1308
02:07:04,000 --> 02:07:19,000
This is just to let start ease, and then they're like, run. So they run away from their position. And there's a bit where it's like the the book, I'm paraphrasing was like, and I can't Nikona was weaving and sweeping between the lines, Empress children, and well, and I'm worried

1309
02:07:19,000 --> 02:07:27,000
again and it's just like, and then Wayland was running straight forward again he's carrying a lot of equipment leave my boy alone.

1310
02:07:27,000 --> 02:07:42,000
And the fun thing is it's like finesse and brawn and there's like a bit where it's just like, and then my corner was weaving darting between cover and then so bail and went Iron Man pose and punch them and like, that's where they work so well together is like, I'm the kind of dumb brawn, but also

1311
02:07:42,000 --> 02:07:52,000
I'm a logistician and a pilot, and you're well a good at shooting and stabbing. And so they weren't really well together, and they're kind of like the legendary like buddy cop duo of the war.

1312
02:07:52,000 --> 02:07:57,000
So we love Nikona, he, he had shot a Primark.

1313
02:07:57,000 --> 02:08:14,000
He also did something very important but I'll also killed Lucy's the eternal before he was cringe or more cringe he made him the eternal technically kind of the the prophecies like Lucy's can only die to someone who doesn't care a single bit about him and the corner just

1314
02:08:14,000 --> 02:08:24,000
he's a hard killer he doesn't really they have a jewel and I kind of goes like one sword here, one sword here and this is before he's all like eternal.

1315
02:08:24,000 --> 02:08:40,000
And Lucy's like, and then there's like an offline where like my kind of like, I feel nothing killing you and pause and I was like, oh, we could really use you now mate, I'm just saying, he doesn't use died since his news lightning claws like a lot the other one he actually uses to

1316
02:08:40,000 --> 02:08:54,000
kill the swords doesn't yeah like so it's a bit different. Also, he has a weird habit though his weird thing is like he's so Raven guardie that he just sneaks around the ship, like the iron hand has a conversation with our far yes because our forest wounds speak,

1317
02:08:54,000 --> 02:09:04,000
and then he wounds a bunch of the orphans of war. And then he's like, and our first like, don't even try fight me, you'll lose and like owners like probably.

1318
02:09:04,000 --> 02:09:13,000
And then he's like, I'll let you go because I like you. But just so you know I'm going to like tell you all my evil plans, and I kind of like, yeah, we cool.

1319
02:09:13,000 --> 02:09:18,000
And I was like, oh he like walks away basically. I think as far as goes like so you're not gonna.

1320
02:09:18,000 --> 02:09:33,000
You're not even going to try but nope, just go. Yeah, thank you. He's like, no thanks. I'm just like, it is he goes appreciate it boy and like the man who headshot a Primark was like, no, not gonna try and kill a Primark like yeah, you don't have distance this time.

1321
02:09:33,000 --> 02:09:47,000
Yeah, other than that other characters we've got agapito and brahm need. I've heard some people I did a video on agapito and people were like, in Spanish I think it is agapito might be another word for Willie, which is kind of funny.

1322
02:09:47,000 --> 02:10:08,000
So these two are brothers from liceus, they were in the salt mines alongside Corvus being like, oh, I want to be free, and they became. So it was, I believe it was brahm, the agapito led the talents and brahm led at the Raptors brahm saved the Raven God from Istvan, and

1323
02:10:08,000 --> 02:10:20,000
agapito I think led the Raptors who were like the genetically engineered crazy. The, the new space marines that the alpha lead in sabotage the alpha.

1324
02:10:20,000 --> 02:10:41,000
The half chaos, the half crow, and agapito was like, I still love you because you're good boys, they were like, my arms, my arms, I love you Corvus accidentally, he accidentally made what they called the, not possess but the Raptors.

1325
02:10:41,000 --> 02:10:53,000
The ones were like, if a space marine gets annoyed, annoys the chaos gods too much they make him a chaos spawn. They basically actually made sort of Raven God spawn.

1326
02:10:53,000 --> 02:11:04,000
And yeah, other than that, there's also Gareth Arandi. Gareth was in the later stages of the Horus heresy the Primarch's bodyguard he's got a shadow warden.

1327
02:11:04,000 --> 02:11:14,000
He would later become the chapter master of the second founding black guard is the thing about Gareth he's a very naughty boy.

1328
02:11:14,000 --> 02:11:25,000
During the Istvan five atrocity. He intentionally led salamanders and iron hands into traps, so they die and he could protect his men.

1329
02:11:25,000 --> 02:11:36,000
He's that kind of guy. But that said, he saved Corax's life during the day of vengeance against Fabius Biles new men. So even though he's dick. He knows what he's doing.

1330
02:11:36,000 --> 02:11:49,000
So he kind of got a free pass. Last character, Nerat Kirin, Terranborn, shade captain, Terranborn, and Corax went, I feel the racism coursing through my veins and he's like oh he's from Terra.

1331
02:11:49,000 --> 02:12:05,000
Corax you naughty man. He's like cringe. And so after gate 42, even though Nerat Kirin didn't do anything he was like right, get out of my sight, go away. You didn't die like you were supposed to.

1332
02:12:05,000 --> 02:12:19,000
So he was sent to the gold stars, like one of the worst places in the 41st millennium to ever be in. And he forms the piratical black shield war bands known as the Ashen Claws.

1333
02:12:19,000 --> 02:12:27,000
And in current era, the Ashen Claws are the guys who basically supply weapons and armaments to the car caradons.

1334
02:12:27,000 --> 02:12:40,000
And I will mention he's like oh he's a cool character. He knew what he was doing. He was good. He was like, but it is also worth mentioning like during the Horus heresy. He, he was part of the, the destruction of Nostromo.

1335
02:12:40,000 --> 02:12:44,000
He killed the coward of the nightlords, Caron Ophiun I think.

1336
02:12:44,000 --> 02:12:49,000
But he also killed loyalists because he was like, I don't care anymore. So that's kind of the Raven Guard.

1337
02:12:49,000 --> 02:12:57,000
There's one Raven Guard who Sevatar has like a loyal, like he broke the mind of the Raven Guard and cut his tongue out. Oh, the Raven as they call him.

1338
02:12:57,000 --> 02:13:02,000
Yeah. I can't remember his name. Sevatar basically made himself like a Raven Guard friend.

1339
02:13:02,000 --> 02:13:10,000
Yeah, there's a Raven Guard serving in the nightlords during the Horus heresy and I can't remember his name, but he's just known as the Raven because it's like, of course.

1340
02:13:10,000 --> 02:13:16,000
And in 40, 40, 40k, the Raven Guard are there.

1341
02:13:16,000 --> 02:13:21,000
They show our Raven Guard. They are in the Damocles crusade.

1342
02:13:21,000 --> 02:13:25,000
Shadow Sun beats them. Yeah.

1343
02:13:25,000 --> 02:13:29,000
And then the White Scars get in to get it done properly because that's what the White Scars do.

1344
02:13:29,000 --> 02:13:35,000
There is. They are stealth. Whatever version of stealth space brains are.

1345
02:13:35,000 --> 02:13:43,000
They've got that cool art where it's the them, the White Scars and the Raven Guard like back to back fighting.

1346
02:13:43,000 --> 02:13:46,000
Yeah.

1347
02:13:46,000 --> 02:13:50,000
Sado and strike. That's that's cool art.

1348
02:13:50,000 --> 02:14:08,000
Yeah, we sure sound excited about it. I mean, I don't know what else to say. It's cool art. That's about how they are. They don't really have much. They don't really have novels. They don't have anything that again, they probably have all the shattered legions came off it like the worst in terms of from a law perspective.

1349
02:14:08,000 --> 02:14:23,000
It's just hard because with again, like we mentioned, I think it's really early on in this video, someone said, what would you give the Raven Guard again, like basically depth, flaws, character, things are actually kind of rally around in a way.

1350
02:14:23,000 --> 02:14:33,000
I think, you know, like even some like the Ultramarines, their whole big thing is like they are just they do one thing, kind of well, but there's nuance within that one thing.

1351
02:14:33,000 --> 02:14:42,000
The Raven Guard just do the one thing still. The thing is, as well, the Ultramarines are like the good boys was like they are literally the what's the term, not cadets. They're the.

1352
02:14:42,000 --> 02:14:49,000
Oh, not like soldier boy, but like Scout, Scout, Boy Scouts. The Boy Scouts.

1353
02:14:49,000 --> 02:15:03,000
The soldier boy is probably not what you were. No, it's like in my head. It was like around that him. He's not he's not a boy scout from what I've heard. Yeah, the Boy Scouts of 40k and that's fair enough. That's what they're about.

1354
02:15:03,000 --> 02:15:12,000
But Raven Guard just say, I'm a sneak in. They are the scout from TF2 going, hello, gentlemen. And then they disappear.

1355
02:15:12,000 --> 02:15:19,000
The only other thing I've got to talk about is the Sisypheum, but that's all there is to say really about the Shattered Legions. Yeah, I think we should go for it.

1356
02:15:19,000 --> 02:15:26,000
I'll be brief. So main characters in the Sisypheum or the Orphans of War, Warband. The Sisyphem, sorry.

1357
02:15:26,000 --> 02:15:45,000
The Sisyphem. So you've got Ulrach Brantham. He was the captain of the 65th Clan Company. He was massively wounded during the Dropsite Massacre. He was saved. But then the survivors were like, oh, here's this venerated captain of the Iron Hands.

1358
02:15:45,000 --> 02:15:51,000
We need a Dreadnought. We got any Dreadnoughts. And the answer was no.

1359
02:15:51,000 --> 02:16:03,000
Shit. Right. And they were like, oh, you know that like spooky looking door over there? What's in there? And they were like, oh, this is where we keep the Heart of Iron.

1360
02:16:03,000 --> 02:16:08,000
And the Salamanders were like, oh, that's cool. What does that mean?

1361
02:16:08,000 --> 02:16:17,000
They basically put this thing on Ulrach's body. We grew his organs, but he was in agonizing pain as it happened and it was very slow.

1362
02:16:17,000 --> 02:16:21,000
And for the most part, he was just like there going, ah.

1363
02:16:21,000 --> 02:16:25,000
And they put him in a fridge. They threw him in a fridge.

1364
02:16:25,000 --> 02:16:32,000
Pretty much. And they were like, Ulrach, can you get some advice? He's like, ah.

1365
02:16:32,000 --> 02:16:36,000
Go left and right and up down, up down. Cool. Yeah.

1366
02:16:36,000 --> 02:16:38,000
And that was kind of his existence for a while.

1367
02:16:38,000 --> 02:16:47,000
And eventually they realized, oh, it is regrowing his organs, but it's killing him.

1368
02:16:47,000 --> 02:17:01,000
So we should like probably get him off this. Luckily, I should say luckily, fortunately, they were attacked by the Iron Warriors and Empress Children and Karashi Bombastus, which is a great name, was a Dreadnought from the Iron Hands who got killed.

1369
02:17:01,000 --> 02:17:15,000
And they were like, that'll do. We'll take his chassis. We'll put Ulrach in it. And the artwork for him is really harrowing because it's like his bare chested, like no leg torso embedded into it with the heart of iron.

1370
02:17:15,000 --> 02:17:20,000
And it's like that Robo cop scene where they take it all apart. He's just like a torso like that.

1371
02:17:20,000 --> 02:17:28,000
But they put him in that. So I don't know why in the Sons of Selenor, he's there in full plate. It's like, mm. Anyway.

1372
02:17:28,000 --> 02:17:33,000
Yeah, he's in charge of the warband. He's pretty cool.

1373
02:17:33,000 --> 02:17:39,000
Spoilers, everyone other than Icona Sharrokin from the Raven Guard die. Moving on.

1374
02:17:39,000 --> 02:17:49,000
Cadmus Tyro, he's the second in command, the Equary to Ulrach. He led the warband when Ulrach was going, for a long time.

1375
02:17:49,000 --> 02:17:57,000
He also inherited his cool like mechanical bird, which is fun, called Garuda.

1376
02:17:57,000 --> 02:18:04,000
Ignatius Newman was an iron hand who was made deaf by the Noisemarines.

1377
02:18:04,000 --> 02:18:11,000
So that was bad. But then they, you know, we mentioned about the first Noisemarine, Various Virogian.

1378
02:18:11,000 --> 02:18:19,000
They met again and he went, and then he was like, I'm deaf, mate. I don't care.

1379
02:18:19,000 --> 02:18:27,000
And Volkite cammoned him to death, which is kind of fun. They're like, oh, my superpower is deaf. Cool.

1380
02:18:27,000 --> 02:18:34,000
Sabik Whelan, we mentioned he's really cool. Don't need to say much more about that other than he's a badass.

1381
02:18:34,000 --> 02:18:45,000
Ironfather Fematica was technically the most superior rank of all the Sisyphean crew, but he took a more, you know, supervisory role.

1382
02:18:45,000 --> 02:18:53,000
He basically, the Sisyphean crew went to Luna during the Siege of Terra to get the Magnamata,

1383
02:18:53,000 --> 02:18:59,000
which is the material components of the Primarchs to stop the traitors from getting that.

1384
02:18:59,000 --> 02:19:08,000
During like their flight, he kind of went, he did that Carter thing, Colin, where he went just like, give them hell, Carter out.

1385
02:19:08,000 --> 02:19:17,000
That's basically what Fematica did. He was like, I'm in the ship. Good luck, boys. Bang.

1386
02:19:17,000 --> 02:19:22,000
It's crazy how in the middle of the horrors, they just have like a pirate crew storyline.

1387
02:19:22,000 --> 02:19:29,000
And their whole thing is to go around and just sort of annoy the traitor Primarchs quite a lot.

1388
02:19:29,000 --> 02:19:33,000
This is straight up like a pirate crew in the middle of the horrors.

1389
02:19:33,000 --> 02:19:39,000
Although it is interesting that like Corex gets special treatment where the Emperor has like a special place and like, you're my weird like ace in the hole.

1390
02:19:39,000 --> 02:19:46,000
Like, if ever I need like something really weird, I'm going to give it to you.

1391
02:19:46,000 --> 02:19:53,000
And yeah, Ateshtasa is the only salamander of the warband. He attended to the wounds of the warband.

1392
02:19:53,000 --> 02:19:56,000
He really got on with the iron hands because they were good at crafting,

1393
02:19:56,000 --> 02:20:01,000
but he also has a really sad death where he's wounded during their procurement of the Magnamata,

1394
02:20:01,000 --> 02:20:09,000
and he sees Vulcan and he has that like hallucination where Vulcan's like, I love you. I love you too, dad.

1395
02:20:09,000 --> 02:20:16,000
He's like, oh, dad. And then he dies. Oh, Ateshtasa.

1396
02:20:16,000 --> 02:20:23,000
And yeah, Nikona is the only one who survives. Everyone else dies. He is the Noble Six.

1397
02:20:23,000 --> 02:20:29,000
Not really. He's the master chief of the gang because he survives everyone else dying.

1398
02:20:29,000 --> 02:20:35,000
He procures the Magnamata. He goes into stasis and is sealed away.

1399
02:20:35,000 --> 02:20:41,000
And obviously the loyalists retrieve the Magnamata because it's mentioned in later lore, but we don't know what happens to Nikona.

1400
02:20:41,000 --> 02:20:47,000
So some people are like, maybe he'll come back because he's the only cool Raven guard.

1401
02:20:47,000 --> 02:20:54,000
Belasaurus Kull should have found him at least. Like Belasaurus Kull needed that to create the Primaris.

1402
02:20:54,000 --> 02:21:01,000
So he's at least they've interacted. But that obviously went to Belasarius first. So Belasarius had to find him originally.

1403
02:21:01,000 --> 02:21:07,000
So it's like, I mean, maybe we'll find out on the scouts. He could have just found the gene seed in a hole somewhere.

1404
02:21:07,000 --> 02:21:19,000
I think I had a comment on the video I'm uploading soon where a question was, is Nikona Sharakin basically Alpha Primus, the whole gene father?

1405
02:21:19,000 --> 02:21:24,000
Yeah, he's the one that's diabeating. I'll take care of that shortly.

1406
02:21:24,000 --> 02:21:30,000
There's like a whole Alpha Primus plot with Belasaurus Kull going on at the moment. And it says he looks like a Raven guard.

1407
02:21:30,000 --> 02:21:40,000
So yeah, maybe. I don't know. I mean, Alpha Primus still has that whole like, I've had a sheltered life, but I love my dad, even though I don't show it.

1408
02:21:40,000 --> 02:21:51,000
But yeah, it's just the case of like, he's one of those loose ends where it's like Raven guard have one character in 40k, which is Shrike, who's the chapter master.

1409
02:21:51,000 --> 02:22:01,000
And even then there are technically other characters. No one gives a shit other than Shrike. We could use some Raven guard characters and Nikona is like the obvious.

1410
02:22:01,000 --> 02:22:11,000
He's right there, guys. He's right there. Put him in the scouring. Go on. He's like, he's shot a Primarch. He had a Nata with Alpharius.

1411
02:22:11,000 --> 02:22:18,000
He's the last man standing of the Orphans of War. Can we not give him some more stuff to do, please? He's right there.

1412
02:22:18,000 --> 02:22:26,000
He just went, he did his corner. Halo free win went, wake me when you need me. He literally did that. Can we?

1413
02:22:26,000 --> 02:22:33,000
He is quite divisive, though, because a lot of people either say he's a bit too like, like a bit Mary Stu, Mary.

1414
02:22:33,000 --> 02:22:39,000
He doesn't seem to lose. Yeah, that's fine. As long as that's his thing.

1415
02:22:39,000 --> 02:22:48,000
I mean, as long as he does it with style, I don't mind that he if he's fighting people like Lucius, I don't mind if he dies at the hands of like, I don't know.

1416
02:22:48,000 --> 02:22:56,000
Khan, fair enough. Like, oh, it doesn't matter. You were studying the blade while I was studying violence. Like, fair enough.

1417
02:22:56,000 --> 02:23:02,000
Like, cool. But we need some Raven Guard characters, guys. I'm just saying.

1418
02:23:02,000 --> 02:23:09,000
It's like, I mean, we need Eldor. Please. Please. Oh, God, please, please.

1419
02:23:09,000 --> 02:23:19,000
No one from Tom Warren. He says to Bucks. Thank you, brother. He's put a gene seed in a hole is how you get a Roman Syradam.

1420
02:23:19,000 --> 02:23:24,000
Wow. Elder Scrolls. Wow. Wow. Wow.

1421
02:23:24,000 --> 02:23:32,000
Yeah, that's all I was going to say about the offensive war. They're kind of cool. I think I think that's all of the Stratid Legion's law, basically.

1422
02:23:32,000 --> 02:23:39,000
Well, pretty much. Apart from going over every well, there might be their own video at some point, each of them.

1423
02:23:39,000 --> 02:23:46,000
So but that's kind of their main arc. So let's anyone else's concept. Well, first of all, Colin, you have to pick a favorite.

1424
02:23:46,000 --> 02:23:54,000
I do. Do I? Yeah. Well, least Salamanders. I like. Oh, come on. I thought all that iron hand law I gave.

1425
02:23:54,000 --> 02:24:03,000
I look and it means nothing. I'm sorry. I just don't care. I'm just a lonely man out here begging someone to like the end.

1426
02:24:03,000 --> 02:24:10,000
And I feel like that I'm used to being disappointed in no one ever liking the elder.

1427
02:24:10,000 --> 02:24:15,000
I've accepted it. I've accepted that outside of my audience, no one gives a shit.

1428
02:24:15,000 --> 02:24:20,000
And even within that audience, most people don't give a shit.

1429
02:24:20,000 --> 02:24:28,000
That's mostly most of all the iron hands law, apart from two books, which kind of end like it starts and ends.

1430
02:24:28,000 --> 02:24:32,000
There's nothing more to it there. I will give them that if I had to.

1431
02:24:32,000 --> 02:24:38,000
No, I can't even give them that. I'm not a mechanic. If I want to cut my bits off.

1432
02:24:38,000 --> 02:24:41,000
But you don't have to. But you can look you can be a bit cooler, though.

1433
02:24:41,000 --> 02:24:46,000
No, it'll be a space marine. No, I'm going to I'm going to fight you on that.

1434
02:24:46,000 --> 02:24:51,000
I guess you'll be a tech priest, be a tech priest to another lead chapter.

1435
02:24:51,000 --> 02:24:55,000
I don't want to be a tech marine. I'll just be a tech priest.

1436
02:24:55,000 --> 02:25:00,000
I don't want to get my rocks off holding incense over a damn bolter.

1437
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:04,000
We have a difference of opinion. Fair enough.

1438
02:25:04,000 --> 02:25:08,000
I guess if people made it this far, do like and subscribe.

1439
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Thank you guys so much for listening and for all the donations that happened during it.

1440
02:25:12,000 --> 02:25:18,000
Again, we are on Spotify, so you've got to listen to us offline if you're and we're also on Amazon Music dot com.

1441
02:25:18,000 --> 02:25:21,000
Oh, we are. That's pretty cool.

1442
02:25:21,000 --> 02:25:27,000
Again, thank you so much for watching. And if you made it this far, likes, please.

1443
02:25:27,000 --> 02:25:32,000
Desperation. The legions were shattered so you could like this video.

1444
02:25:32,000 --> 02:25:37,000
Probably not. And without being said, I think that's it for today's episodes.

1445
02:25:37,000 --> 02:25:41,000
Colin has suffered enough space marine law. Yeah, enough space marine laws.

1446
02:25:41,000 --> 02:25:44,000
My brain hurt. There was no Xenos.

1447
02:25:44,000 --> 02:25:47,000
I mentioned Eldar once, I think.

1448
02:25:47,000 --> 02:25:49,000
It was one of them.

1449
02:25:49,000 --> 02:25:55,000
Let's go for empathy. It was them getting angry at Ferris for not listening.

1450
02:25:55,000 --> 02:25:57,000
Yeah. Seems makes sense.

1451
02:25:57,000 --> 02:26:02,000
That being said, yep. Thank you guys so much for listening and we'll catch you in the next one. Peace.

1452
02:26:02,000 --> 02:26:03,000
Bye, everyone. Bye.

1453
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Take care, everyone. Have a good one. Bye.