Hello everyone, it's us, the Goobers from LoreCrimes.
We're just goofing about boys, hope everyone is having a good evening or a good morning
wherever you are.
We've got a topic, wait I'm making sure we are live.
We do have a cool topic today though because we're going to talk about something that was
pretty damn obvious to most people who are in the Warhammer spaces.
If you can't do it correctly once you can try again, not really because they did it
pretty well the first time though, but it's Necron Lords and we're also doing a bit of
Spicy Tomb King Lords as well.
You might kind of start to notice if you own a Warhammer 40k fan or a 30k fan, there was
a world that existed before GW decided to throw literal horse crap at the enemies and
ruin it.
And then you have it chosen all over the place.
The fact that it's called the world that was is still upsetting in our pain.
But yeah, in Warhammer fantasy there was Tomb Kings before we had Necron Lords, there was
Necrons at home before we had Necrons.
This is so hard because they're exactly the same thing.
The Necrons were very, after the Regret Con, were very much inspired by the Tomb Kings.
Yes, but I think we're going to be discussing both of the best, we're going to discuss all
of the characters that kind of, I guess you could probably see some inspired other ones
whereas others are wholly unique and we'll be getting into some of those juicy lore tidbits.
You probably might see some themes pop up.
They'd be like, oh, that looks familiar, like copying someone else's homework.
But before that though, I think Colin, we have the question of the week.
We do.
This week.
But I'm already, I'm raring.
I'm excited because you've definitely said there's some spice in there.
The last one was, you know, hashtag secret and it was just what are some secrets in Warhammer.
And yes, some of them, you know, some of we get some really good ones.
One of them lit me up a little bit.
Do you feel personally attacked?
I do.
There's two small extra things I wanted to throw on top of that, both related to the
topic of lighting me up because holy shit, man.
We'll go with the first one I grabbed.
Lollipop Knight 2.
Hashtag secrets.
There actually truly never was a second nor an 11th legion of the Adeptus Astartes.
The Emperor just can't count.
When Kilman, the greatest account of them all, had the balls to call him on it, the
Emperor injected vague memories of a purge into the Primarch's minds.
He figured maybe it would scare his sons to a better compliance, too.
That'd be the funniest thing if they revealed that's what happens.
Like, you know, they never existed.
It was just the Emperor gaslighting everyone.
Gaslighting because he was embarrassed as well at the end of the day.
At Huntsman 7274, hashtag secret.
The Inquisition doesn't want you to know this, but Exterminatus doesn't exist.
Planets just do that sometimes.
That was a real tweet thread where someone was like, yeah, nukes aren't real.
Someone replied with Japan just did that.
It just does that when no one's looking.
The last one, starting the topic of getting on my ass, is the Heir of the Redeemer 2828,
hashtag secret.
Marathi once met Colin at her newest Fling school reunion.
Sources say she was disgusted, intrigued and confused.
Oh, is that your worst nightmare?
It hurts.
It hurts especially because it's so...
This person knows.
It's a true Colin fan.
And then just one of the two extra things I wanted to throw in was Winter8109.
Luther kinda was the Dark Souls 2 of the Dark Angel.
So he was the best Dark Angel, easy sweep.
No!
He was the rushed out.
Someone who's literally just killed the bed of chaos yesterday.
I'm coming around to Dark Souls 2 being actually pretty good.
It's not.
For people listening, we've already done a live stream about a tier list of every single
Dark Souls boss fight.
So if you want to go to see how we all felt about Dark Souls 2, go to that one.
It's on our channel.
The other quick thing, you know, was someone, I will name no names, nothing about them,
except they decided they told me they looked like the chicken man from Toy Story 2.
And I was like, no, I did not need that.
It's not even the guy who does the really satisfying repair job as well.
That's the facial hair.
That fucking killed me.
It was really funny though.
I got that message and was like, holy shit.
Honestly, how does that make you feel?
I started laughing when I got that message.
I was like, holy shit, I just got fucking executed.
Holy shit, dude, you killed him.
I just want to point out that Eli is sitting there laughing all about his little like YouTube
pimp jacket.
Show us.
Look at that.
He's got a back coat.
For free.
They just sent it to you.
I don't know.
We haven't got one.
It's bullshit.
Colin's not got his pimp jacket.
It's my jacket from shorts.
Chicken guy from Toy Story.
DJ Beats, leave Colin alone.
He's got a back coat.
DJ Beats, leave Colin alone.
Okay.
What's he doing now?
Slander.
We appreciate DJ Beats.
He's always in the chat.
The poll is in the way.
People need to type in what the rest of us look like, but please be kind.
Or don't.
No, if I'm getting neat like that, you guys are in the chopping block too.
Fuck you.
Good luck.
I think I look out Mr. Beast and I don't like, I'm okay.
The thing is, I'm okay with that.
Like that's good enough for me.
You got Mr. Beast.
I got the fucking Toy Story chicken guy.
We do look similar, but he's a little bit chubbier.
He's a little bit like chubby in the cheeks.
All you can get from this is just MF Doom, apparently.
I've been called the lucky charms guy many times.
Short hair.
So what can you do?
All your cheeks are already hurt.
Speaking of that, we do have another question of the week.
Andy, do you remember what the question of the week was?
This one is hashtag immortal.
What would you do with immortality in the Warhammer universe?
And we're going to say both fantasy and 40k?
Sure.
Why not?
Pick a universe and decide which one you're going to be immortal in.
Just not End Times.
That's not allowed.
The better idea is just to run to the webway and don't...
I'd say that, but then Zinch set up a tent in the webway or something.
But Zinch would get you eventually.
The clown man would keep you safe.
Is it technically true to say that you'd be immortal if you were trapped in Trezin's Tesseract
labyrinth or in his museum?
I guess.
You can't do much, but you're alive, I guess.
Do you ever... if you're trapped in that, do you perceive time flowing or not?
I think you can if he lets you.
I'm pretty sure there's a mechanic, a tech priest, who asked for that because he just
wanted to run computations and shit in peace.
There was also the Black Legion guys in the Hammer and Bolter episode where we were in
one.
And they just repeat.
They go to this planet and they go, we're going to steal this artifact from the Necrons.
And every time Trezin's like, you can leave whenever you want.
You just have to choose not to invade.
And they never do.
So they just live in a repeating loop against the Drukhari in this little cube forever.
It's sad, but it's the Black Legion, so who cares?
We will be talking more about him later, though.
But I think Eli, we're going to get straight on in there because we're going to talk about
perhaps some of the fanciest, smanciest... smanciest?
What the... the true absolute chads of just any Xenos faction, although that could be argued
because we have Xenos scum loving Eldar fans here.
But it's Necron Lord, Eli.
Take it away.
Yeah, baby.
The Necrons are the best of the best Xenos.
They own the galaxy.
Rightful rulers, as it should be.
I'm not gonna lie.
I was reading through like half of the Nemesaur Xantric and Obra in a short story and I had
like five pages of notes so I decided to stop.
So this is a Xantric and Obra episode as much as it is Necron Lord's episodes, but they're
the best Necron Lords so you can't complain too much.
Just a quick foray before we start.
There are some Necron Lords we're going to mention today that to our hearts utter disgust
they've removed from the Codex, if I do believe.
Yes, it's very sad.
They still have lore tidbits in the Codex though, like in the first few pages they're
there.
I looked, but no rules in the law.
Just a rub salt into the wound.
So if some people are listening, there are probably some Necron Lords you probably never
heard about.
If you're a recent person just started playing 10th edition or you're recent to Warhammer
lore, there are some, I mean arguably probably more interesting characters we're going to
discuss who again GW apparently just doesn't want to update the goddamn model for.
Maybe next edition they'll come back, but who knows.
Pain but we're going to get into it though.
Yeah.
Alright well, oh, Colin's going to die.
Colin's going to die.
Pardon me.
Donate to the chat so he can get a new pancreas.
Fucking make that three.
No, I'm joking.
Alright well, we're going to start at the head of the totem pole other than the silent
king because he just showed up.
We're going to start with the Immo Tech the Storm Lord, the most epic guy in all the galaxy
who in my opinion is the best general in the whole galaxy.
No diff ultramarines.
Sorry Rose.
But Immo Tech has recently risen in the thing is in the 40th millennium upon the crown world
of Mandragora only to find his dynasty, the South Tech dynasty engulfed in a civil war.
He was awoken by an ambitious noble hoping to use the Storm Lord's legendary prowess,
but Immo Tech had no time for games and slew the noble immediately like the scrub he was.
He then mustered his forces and swiftly ended the civil war and he has since ravaged the
galaxy.
Believe he's carved an empire something like he's gained like something like 80 tomb worlds,
but I know Andy was telling me that he found a much larger number.
I don't remember what the number was though.
I think it's like he's got the tomb worlds, but he's also conquered like loads of human
worlds.
He goes like I got hundreds of them.
They're just like fun.
Say oh I've killed everyone.
That's mine now.
All your resources.
So in like 200 years the guy has allegedly gotten more planets than years he's been fighting.
So very successful.
Obviously not Imperium numbers, but he's getting there.
He's uniting the necrons slowly but surely.
Alexander calls them the taker of a trillion hands and master of 300,000 sons, which I
assume is reference to the times of old before the necrons went to sleep.
Goes hard.
Yeah.
I think my favorite tidbit is that even the I think the Gitan, it was mentioned in back
in the war in heaven millions of years ago, even the Gitan I think knew of him, which
is like crazy considering necrons were to their mindless slave robots.
So that's how dangerous he was.
Back in the day he wasn't like he was a general.
He was just like I just like doing war because I'm good at it.
He wasn't into the whole I want to rule.
But then he came back and he's like what are you all doing?
This is stupid.
Where's the king?
Oh for god.
Oh fine.
I'll do it.
If no one else will.
I guess I should mention the pharaoh of the Sototac dynasty did not wake up unfortunately.
So everyone was squabbling and trying to gain the power while they could.
So they actually stopped the resurrection protocols for all the other nobles.
Oh my god.
The border prince is coming with quite the take.
I'm missing the chance.
I'm not showing up on my phone.
The storm lord is a filthy regicide and should have remembered his place.
Oh jeez.
Did not think I'd be here at Ammo Tech's slander today.
Come on.
Ammo Tech's a G. He deserves everything.
Everything he gets.
But essentially they were squabbling for power.
Some guy woke up Ammo Tech because he thought that Ammo Tech would help him get the power
but then Ammo Tech just took the armies and killed everyone basically.
And then got the allegiance of all the others.
But anyways more about him.
Said that his voice sounds as solar carrion tearing round a black hole.
I thought that was a cool...
Who's heard that before?
It's hard to imagine what that is but Necrons have I guess.
It would be like the equivalent of someone saying that sounds exactly like shoving a
human through a penny sized hole and you go how the hell would you know?
He has defeated every grand strategist that has come against him with a nice emphasis
on Mr. Hellbrecht.
Take the L, Imperial Bros.
Sorry.
He cut off his hand.
Yes he did.
Yeah.
He said that his mind is a machine of incomprehensible logic that can process amounts of information
that would likely leave even a Primarch's brain melted.
That's what I like to think at least.
It's as if you took the world's greatest supercomputer and you improved it by 10 and you gave it
sentience and hatred for all the galaxy's life and then gave it billions of undying
warriors and a galactic empire.
And I think that's a good way to sum up how dangerous the Storm Lord is.
Thank you Zosie.
Does he hate all life?
I always thought he was kind of like he just wanted to conquer them rather than explicitly
kill everything.
I think he's not well in other ways.
If you guys want to go into it.
Basically all the Necrons hate life except for Trazin and a couple other ones.
In the codex it even says that he won't rest or he doesn't see it as Necron victory until
every living being in the galaxy is dead.
Alright fair enough.
Doesn't he have a slightly complicated relationship with that just because of his certain illness
that we're gonna get into?
Because he doesn't see other people the right way.
Oh that's the wrong guy.
Oh no.
You scared me.
I thought I missed something.
I don't have notes on this.
Am I correct in also thinking that Emotec does not agree with the Silent King about
it?
He doesn't want them to be flesh and blood again.
He's like nah Skelly boys are cool.
Yeah I believe so.
Stay as we are.
There is a weird divide in Necrons where some of them want to go back to the time of flesh
and others don't.
But most of them just hate flesh in general.
The perspectives vary so drastically depending on what author is writing about them so it's
kind of hard to follow sometimes.
They are also a civilization.
They're not all gonna have the same viewpoints.
Overall all Necrons even the ones who want to go back to the time of flesh they still
hate all the other living beings because they're not even really sentient to them.
They're just rats and vermin and insects.
I was gonna say we got a donation.
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Thank you brother.
Thank you.
When will we get an emoji that my phone can't show to your list for?
Which god most likely not to call you back after sex.
Triple S here is a certain Dami Mami.
Jesus.
Alright.
It's a good question.
The emperor definitely doesn't call you back.
Surely.
Just like used and abused and then gone.
Smushed into the wall at that point.
It doesn't matter if Morathi doesn't call me back.
I'm bending it because my life is peaked after that.
In fact Colin would prefer it that way.
I feel like the OmniSci would just go like Error Report 404 and that'd be it.
Send me a text.
It would just be awkward with the OmniSci.
All that oil.
We gotta move on Ryan.
Going to demonetize this podcast.
Tom Warren says that you probably wouldn't want to go back to Super Cancer either.
Their goal is to live lives again and have souls basically.
They wouldn't want the cancer stuff but their soulless and immortality is a curse and that's
what everyone always seems to find out in stories.
Their lives all kind of suck but they're doing okay.
Is it Zandric then?
I thought Imotec was the one.
His mind is broken and he still perceives everyone as living beings.
When he duels he thinks he's dueling real people.
That's still Zandric I think because he's like I'm still in the war in heaven.
Time to go to bed.
He's like Clint Eastwood in that film where he's playing the old guy who's kind of a bit
of a badass.
Grand Torino?
Maybe yeah and he's like it's still the Korean War or something.
Okay moving on though because we do have a lot to cover today.
The only downside of Mr. Imotec is his pride which is a weird thing for Necron but I mean
they all have their weird quirks that are issues.
But it leaves him-
Orcs are downside as well?
Yeah but that's not like his flaw.
It's kind of a funny one isn't it?
He can't fight orcs correctly.
He can it just takes some time.
He gets completely undermined because he's like this doesn't make any sense and this
should make sense in this work.
Orcs are never disappointing do they?
But he often mocks his opponents and makes them feel bad instead of our killing them.
Like the hellbrek thing he cuts off hellbrek's hand and then kicks him off the bridge and
then he says I'll get you next time and then he doesn't get him next time.
Another Necron W.
Although he did love his flagships.
Screw you guys.
Yes he did but that wasn't a war.
He still lost the war.
He had infinite respawns it wasn't fair.
Yeah from what I remember hellbrek basically beat the storm lord down time and time again
but Imhotep was just laughing at him because he's basically kept rebuilding.
He's basically kept the gold tier regen surplus subscription so it just like auto fixes and
you're like for god's sake stay dead for a second.
He has a phylactery and a sempiternal weave which are nice but Mr. Imhotep wages dozens
of campaigns at once making complex counter moves on a distant planet while he launches
a surgical strike on another.
The only beings he finds absolutely frustrating as we said are the orcs and also chaos for
they often defy all logic and acts in anarchy randomly but even then it only gives them
a tiny bit of leeway and he often can figure it out eventually and still beat them.
We have another donation.
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Sorry from Maple Scaffolder.
Thank you for the five dollars.
Thank you brother.
Thank you.
Keep it up guys.
My favorite Warhammer channel.
Bless you.
When are we gonna get beginner to expert Caiaphas Kane.
Caiaphas Kane.
Sorry.
Love from Alberta Canada.
Oh baby I'm in Alberta Canada.
Nice.
What do you call them?
Albertians or something.
Albertians.
Come on.
Albertians.
Albertians is close enough.
Couple of Berties.
I originally thought that your message said beginner to expert Colin and I thought that
was quite funny.
We should do that.
Expert Colin.
Or a deep dive.
The iceberg effect of Colin.
I mean Caiaphas Kane is quite a big one.
This is his legal activity that he really doesn't want to know about.
How many books are the Caiaphas Kane stuff?
Seven?
No.
Six, seven.
I think it's like yeah around seven or eight but there's a lot of side stories too.
Yeah.
It's the Gotrek and Felix effect.
We're like oh it's the funnest character.
Oh there's a million books.
Okay.
But anyways.
I did want to point out one thing with Emotech as well.
One of his side projects is he wants to just get rid of the orcs.
He's like I don't like how they're winning.
So he's like his side project is like I want to genocide the orcs because they're annoying
and I shouldn't be losing.
I'm a bad loser.
So yeah.
I can't blame him.
From what I could tell though I don't know if he's actually ever lost other than when
Helvetch blew up his ship but he got away and it wasn't like an actual war.
Apparently the space will beat him.
Whatever.
Take that as you will.
I just read that.
It was like one sentence so I'm not sure.
I would need to read the actual book.
You know I mean to be fair the more you fight the space marines the less and less protection
you will have from their plot armor over time.
Eventually the new army or character plot armor wears off and then it has to fight the
space marine plot armor.
Yeah and then you...
I'm just waiting for Helvetch Primaris to like get like round two bitch.
Like oh no he's bigger.
Primaris Cato Zacarius just...
Uh oh.
Butter elbow drop.
Hells of Tarnshard has ruined him.
Oh man.
Alright.
Well he's called the Storm Lord for the ability for him to call the dark and terrible storms
that go all around him and his forces and the enemies within who are lucky are struck
with the green arcane lightning and atomized in an instant but the less lucky guys who
maybe sometimes even leave the swarm are infected with the blood swarm nanoscarabs which nuzzle
their way into their flesh and send signals to attract flayed ones who then come and tear
them to shreds.
Sorry DJ B's with that.
God what now?
Imritech got killed by a space wolf pitiful god-bronze.
Don't be saying that.
Okay we have two donations, thank you guys very much.
Thank you so much guys.
Thank you.
Rudy McShooty for the five dollars.
Legitimate question, when's the Oni-Verse Inquisition?
I want to see who's better at being a xenophobe and if you do an iceberg on Mr. No-Slenesh
would blush.
Yeah.
That would be cool.
No iceberg me.
The next one's very appropriate, you have to read that one too.
We do need to do a Versus episode one of these days soon, it's been a while.
Oni-Verse Inquisition was one of our OG ideas I think.
But Maple Scaffolder, thank you for the ten dollars.
Albertans for life, pleased to be an expert of Colin, we will all love you guys for it.
Iceberg affect Alberta anyone?
There's not much to it buddy.
We have Banff though.
Banff is real nice.
People come from all around the world.
It's going to say galaxy but it just seems to be.
Banff?
What is Banff?
It's a national park?
It's like the Bundsemp for Migration und Fluxlinch, that's all I found.
It's a...
Banff is Banff.
Oh my gosh, it's a park, the mountains are beautiful, we have a lot of beautiful mountain
stuff.
I don't know what Colin said but it sounded like a hate crime.
It was German so...
Oh man.
We can do a deep dive on Berkman.
Yeah, we have to keep going, keep going.
He carries, Mr. Ametek again, carries many powerful artifacts.
The most important being the Staff of the Destroyer.
This staff has been passed down through generations, first held by the founder of the South Tech
dynasty and is always welled by the Pharaon.
It can only fire after recharging for a long time but what it does, even Terminators are
destroyed in front of Ametek.
Upon his hand rests the Gauntlet of Fire, fairly self explanatory.
He has a phalliactory and a Semper Terminal Weave, something that a lot of Nobles have
that renders them basically unkillable aside from orbital strike type crazy stuff.
If that wasn't enough, he also has a phase shifter so when you shoot at him he's not
even there most of the time.
Overall, in my opinion, he's perhaps the finest commander in the galaxy and hopefully we can
see him go up against other guys like Giliman.
That'd be really cool.
Although maybe not because as I said earlier, he's beat Space Marine Plot Armor a couple
too many times and Giliman has the ultimate Space Marine Armor.
So it might be a good story but he might just win.
So he's a bit frustrating because I think technically he has the biggest Necron army
ever.
Even the Silent King doesn't have as many forces as he does and it's like, what are
you doing Stormward?
Well yeah, although someone did ask, is this the guy on the white scars, master of the
Hutton List?
No, that's Zandrik.
It's a different guy.
Zandrik's a G. Zandrik is DG.
One final note, if you play him on the tabletop, you are legally required to play Barry the
Light from Devil May Cry.
That's a good show.
That's a great show.
What are you guys' opinions on his new model?
Because I don't really like it.
I think it's fine.
I think it has a problem with a lot of other more recent stuff where you see in like Age
of Sigmo, they weren't able to push the envelope a little bit more whereas 40k is a little
bit more safe.
I did say they were trying to honor slash recreate his older model in some capacity.
I think it's fine.
It could have been more.
It's fine.
It doesn't even look like his picture though.
I think the trouble with Necron models in general is because at a glance, if you don't
know who the character is, they all kind of merge into one.
They've got the green and the gold and the silver.
Unless you have a keen eye for it, you're like, who's this character compared to this
character?
His head's slightly different shape.
At least with the Siren King, he's got that big bloody plinth thing he's standing on.
You're like, oh, that's like a unique thing.
But a lot of the time it's just a guy with a staff and it's spiky and he's got a big
cape.
It kind of looks like that other guy who has a staff and a big cage.
He's got lots of green.
He's like, yeah.
But before his old model, you could tell it's ImoTeC but now it kind of just looks like
a big Necron lord.
Yeah.
It's like if Space Marines didn't have different chapter colors, you'd be like, yeah, this
guy, his armor is slightly bigger.
Is that a Marine's benevolent or is that an Imperial fist?
We'll find out when they charge at us.
It was like early Great Crusade, they didn't have all their armor painted.
So they're literally all wearing gray armor.
And then I guess that's how Necrons are really now.
So could you imagine telling apart the Space Marine legions if they all had gray armor?
CJ Beast called me a chaos call this.
Oh no, that's probably Andy.
I am a big fan of chaos though.
But anyways, I think I mean, who else could be as good as ImoTeC at his job?
Guy has super computer brain and the power of a star powering his logic engines and stuff.
It's pretty hard to go against.
But some of his battles are so famous, which we talked about in the Necrons pod a long
time ago.
They're saying in idioms based off of his events for the Necronteers such as Gone Like
the Kuvu, which people say after you clear your plate, because the Kuvu dynasty was utterly
and just completely destroyed mercilessly by ImoTeC to the point where there was just
absolutely nothing left.
So when you eat all your food real fast and it's clear you say gone, you finished out
like the Kuvu basically.
In the War of Heaven, like you said, the katana of who he was, but even more the immortal
god beings that were the older ones were afraid of ImoTeC.
So the actual gods feeling fear over a single dude, it's like saying the chaos gods are
afraid of Cato Sicarius, which I mean, which they are can't blame him, but they don't.
But for a while he spent a lot of his time uniting the Saatec dynasty, subduing upstarts
and traitors so well that the majority of them now just bend the knee without question
because they don't want to get destroyed when ImoTeC lands on their tomb.
With the reemergence of the Silent King, it is unsure how they will get along because
I've heard the Storm Lord is not a fan of Zark.
It'd be so cool if they did a civil war.
I don't want them to do a civil war.
What's going on over there?
No more civil war.
Please.
But the only trouble is, again, I know it's their aesthetic, but there's so much green.
It's like Anrakiya is a blue necron.
But then having like this, the green necrons versus the green necrons.
I don't want them to have a civil war.
The necrons have enough of that stuff.
And I mean, logically, it doesn't make much sense to further the dynasties.
So if we're going off of the bean whose basis most of his decisions solely off of logic,
I don't think he'd want to do a civil war.
I think it would be like the angle of like, oh, the Silent King, he's trying to make us
weak with being flesh again.
Oh, where has he been?
He hasn't been doing his job for the last 10,000 years.
I've been holding the fort.
I didn't even want this job.
I hate this guy.
I don't know.
Knowing GW though, I feel like they'll just try to nerf the Xenos who are beginning who
are getting too strong.
So they will have a civil war and then it'll be bad times.
Because ironically, attrition is what is the worst for the necrons because for every, I
don't know, 1 million warriors that dies, one of them can't be recalled and is gone
forever.
So although Zaheer Martinez at Emotech is currently waging a civil war against Sarek
in the recent Pariah Nexus crusade book.
That's sad news.
The saddest part of the necrons is that there'll never be new necrons for them.
There's a finite number of necrons forever and it's only going to slowly decrease because
again, they all go, some of them just, I mean, a spoiler for some of the story here, but
some will eventually go mad.
So we're going to too much there now.
Yeah.
To be fair though, they are dwindling.
But also it was like a Starfarer, an empire that was larger than the Imperium.
And where the Imperium, they have soldiers, but they also have citizens.
But the necrons, every single citizen was made into a soldier.
So they have trillions and trillions of stuff.
Every tomb world probably has billions of necrons on it, stuff like that.
You know, it's not bad.
I'm not quite Eldar level desperation.
No, not even close.
They're doing pretty well off and maybe Illuminore Ceasaris can track the code again and get
some pariahs, which would be nice.
But I really have no idea.
The only rival to Stormwind though is Nemesaur Xandric, but he is loyal as can be, real
nice guy.
So AmoTech tolerates him.
Moving on though is going to be Mr. Xandric and Oberon, the two fellows on the screen
right now, my favorite Necron characters by far.
They are the best duo in 40k.
Cannot be changed.
My mind cannot be changed.
And yeah, Xandric is the Nemesaur of Gadrim, a world under Sautec control.
He is alongside AmoTech as one of the galaxy's greatest and most accomplished generals, as
well as a grand historian.
He even wrote some of the ancient manuals of war that the Necrons here possessed.
Impossibly intelligent and full of witful bravado, he is a pristine noble who commands
his troops with perfect efficiency.
Despite this, he is taken with the madness that we mentioned earlier.
This madness is like no other amongst his kind it seems, although a lot of Necrons are
crazy.
His is not the worst crazy you could have and it doesn't hinder his abilities to lead
thankfully.
But he believes himself to be still living in the times of the Necron tier and he sees
all the enemies as separatist dynasties.
Whenever the Stormlord commands him to go to battle, he phrases the enemy as dynasties.
Stubborn dynasties are space marines, reckless dynasties are orcs, etc.
Yet for all his lightheartedness, even Xandric recognizes the Stormlord's authority and
it is said royal instinct goes deeper than any engrammatic damage.
So he sobers up quite quick when speaking to AmoTech because sometimes when he is at
his little feasts he convinces himself that he's drunk so he acts drunk which is pretty
goofy.
It looks pretty wild there for him where he's fighting an orc and then this orc is like
a massively muscular beast thing and he's like that just looks like a really buff Necron
or Necron tier.
Bro have you been going to the gym?
Where did you get these?
Jeez.
He's like oh my god, who's the guy who was in the thing recently where he definitely
wasn't Natty or something like that?
The guy who used to eat liver king.
He's like, he's just fighting liver king.
I can just imagine Xandric fighting the tower and just be like what the hell is even that?
Look at these thin tiny Necrons.
Ugh.
What are they doing?
It's not enough rolls for AmoTech in the chat.
Very sad.
Oh man.
He's disappointed.
Good, good.
I was just talking about Xandric's condition so if you were going to mention more about
that I will not open my mouth.
You can try it.
It's also implied he'd kind of like, like to mention he'll come and go.
It'll get stronger and then it'll go for a little bit.
I feel like I read a passage where he was like even if we were undead skeleton monsters
mummies, which I don't believe at all.
And I think I read like in the passage he somehow winked, which impressive.
Wouldn't it be best just to make the most of it and enjoy this life of endless fun and
campaigning?
Like it's like he does, it comes and goes.
How do you wink with no eyelids?
He manages.
I don't know if Trazan does it.
Yeah.
They use like flicker of the ocular, whatever they're called.
I think Trazan actually can form his body into smiles and shit.
That's creepy.
That's true.
I think.
But yeah, I think so.
I haven't finished a short story because I had already written too many notes, so I just
stopped.
I know as well there's moments where he can also be in confidence with Oberon like, oh,
I'm not actually having moments of like dementia.
But then it's like, but are you, are you just having a lucid moment and you're like, haha,
I'm not really suffering.
And it's like.
Deadliest for the Star Gods.
Alfarius moment 101.
Yeah, but he, he flies his ship, the Cairn class tomb ship known as the Yama, which was
his first successful campaign in the swamps of Yama.
And this ship has very wonderful banqueting facilities.
The ship is full of kitchens and sculleries with Necron commoners actually who are meant
to be tasters and cooks and the like, seamlessly wandering the halls with less consciousness
and even warriors, which implies that warriors are not the only commoner class of Necron,
which I found interesting.
It's always hard to tell, but I don't know.
Xandric seems to have some semblance of art left in him as well, which is very rare in
the Necrons, especially they all suck at music.
That's their worst thing, I think.
But his grand chamber contains a ring shaped table that is inlaid with mosaics of Xandric's
most famous victories.
In each image, the oculars of the troops gleam with precious stones seized from the world
they had conquered.
He likes drama and art very much.
To a being that could appreciate such things, the chamber would have been near indescribably
beautiful, he said.
Within this chamber, he celebrates victory, holding grand feasts of empty goblets and
barren plates, but he thinks they're full of wine and food, of course.
These times are often accompanied by his poetry and he calls them epilogues, as all the lords
that hate his guts to no end have to spitefully sit there while he recites his poetry for hours
and hours and hours.
Oh my god.
What?
Poetry slam, but it's worse.
You know what it reminds me of?
Because it's like 12 years long.
No, what it reminds me of, when Stalin was in charge of the Soviet Union, apparently
he used to watch cowboy films with his advisors and they had to stay up till like four in
the morning and watch them with him.
Because if they didn't, he would be like, right, you're going on the list, I'm getting
you killed.
So they had to be like, oh, and he'd be like, cowboy film?
They're like, uh, I don't know.
Is this Nemesor Zandere?
Is this basically the death of Stalin, but then he doesn't die?
Exactly, yeah.
It's the death of Stalin.
That's a great film by the way.
Zhukov would really love Coca-Cola, but it was like the symbol of American capitalist
decadence.
He also got a personal gift from, I think it was Eisenhower, he got like fish tackles
from him as a gift and he prized them for the rest of his life.
He's like, ah, he's a great man.
I have these fish tackles.
I think he also gave him like clear Coke.
So it's like, it's not Coke, it's just pure vodka.
That's a very rough thing.
I think of a slight comment, which is, they're both very weird, but they're not related.
But I think it's quite interesting that for, particularly for Necron tier and like Necrons,
they didn't live long, even like for people who were listening, they didn't, they would
die like horrifically, like cancerous death pretty early on in their lives.
I think maybe they lived maybe as long as humans.
Yeah, by the end of it, I think they lived for a while, but yeah, they managed to have
to.
I want to say like 70, but then like comparing humans now to like 40k humans, they've got
rejuvenated so they can live like hundreds of years.
Yeah, they didn't really die of old age.
Some were alive in the time of when the Silent King declared war on the old ones.
And then they were still alive after the war.
And when they found the Catan, which, which is, must've been like at least a hundred years,
right?
I see.
The interesting part is that for, for basically a race that wouldn't live that long, it's
interesting that they would even have time for things like art.
So that's quite an interesting sort of character development part there.
Although every single piece is about death.
It says like, look at this Grim Reaper, I drew it like, yeah, that's cool.
What did you draw last week?
I've got another Grim Reaper how you need like...
The art was pretty much only to further like royalty and show exuberance and that stuff.
Oh, my other comment, which was my favorite part is that there are some Necron, they had
like Necron Lords in, so in his like courtroom, he'd have the ones like, you know, Master
of War, Master of Armory or something.
And there's still, there's still some, they have like Master of Grain for a race that
doesn't eat.
From their old stuff.
I know, but there's probably some of the Lords who hate him in that chamber of like, I'm
the master of, I'm like the master of, you know, pet grooming or something.
Even though we have no pets anymore, but like that, you know, oh my God, they were like
hating so much.
Like I don't need to be here.
I'm the master of pedicures.
We don't have nails anymore.
Yeah.
My job is easy.
Colin, what were you going to say?
Good question.
What I was just thinking was, unfortunately, I knew any of the Necron Lords who hate him
have to get past a certain someone.
Yes, they do.
Yeah.
Yes, they do.
Which we'll talk about soon.
But yeah, all the Lords hate him and they think that they should be the rightful rulers.
And every time he goes out and campaign, they hope that it's the last one, that he doesn't
come back.
So it's just salt in the wound that they have to then sit through hours of poetry and stuff.
But they can speed up their chrono sense at least so that it goes faster.
But Mr. Varguard Oberyn obviously cannot speed up his sense because he has to be fully aware.
So he has enjoyed millions of hours instead of talking to Zandrik.
And they resold that in the chat.
They summoned them on the internet.
I put that there.
He's the best character, he's a hero, ripped in it.
I'll say the Twice-Dead King, people we 100% recommend reading that book.
So good.
I just said it's most important.
So good.
Sorry.
Don't worry about it.
Sorry, I was reading the chat.
Oh yeah, yeah, sorry.
Worse than the Lords that have to sit through this stuff are the enemy generals that he
takes captive and then brings to these feasts.
Because it's honorable to take the enemy dynast, the enemy general captive instead of killing
them until their ransom is paid and treating them to a feast after a good battle.
This usually includes Imperial generals who have soiled themselves with fear, with metallic
ghouls speaking all around them in an incomprehensible language.
In the short story, the one who was with them just dies out of fear.
He just expires from being too scared and his heart fails.
That's fun.
But he does take captives, which no other Necrons ever do.
I think there is a story with a white scar in some way.
Yeah, the master of the hunt, Korsaro Khan, gets captured and then he tries to escape.
He has a scrap with Oberon with the help from the Eldar Illic Nightspear.
And then Zandriks like, I like this guy, you can go.
He's like, what?
He's like, you can go now.
And he's like, I'm gonna put your name in my record of the hunt and I'll be back.
He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's fine.
You had like a dinner with schmucks type of this guy.
But Zandrik I think is definitely the most unique and the most, he has the most personality
of all the Necron Lords, as he's one of the only ones who ever really seems to be expressing
any joy and real happiness.
When he meets up with an old friend whose previous beasts had been made into Canoptix,
the Canoptix bound towards Zandrik and he falls to the ground laughing and roughhousing
them, which is something not a single Necron noble would ever do.
They would rather die than like be seen doing something like that.
So he's still, he's still pretty happy.
I think he's living out of all the Necrons.
He's probably the happiest guy.
There was like a nice passage in one of the Twice Dead King books where it's when he's
a Necron here and he's just like, there was a guy called Zandrik and he was just being
like a bit sarcastic and silly and all, and he's just there like grinning ear to ear with
Oberon just sat next to him and all the Necrons like, I fucking hate that guy.
You have a lovely smile my friend.
What a clown.
Does he have a model or did he ever have a model?
Yeah, he's dabbing.
He's a dabbing guy.
Yeah, he's got the dab model.
Oh, he was, he was in eighth and ninth edition.
He's been here since fifth edition and now he's just freaking gone for no reason.
Whatever, maybe he'll get a new model.
I don't know.
Gone but not forgotten.
But he's extremely honorable as well.
Did you just say someone called?
I just said RIP.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Zandrik's probably also the most honorable Necron lord along with guys like Enner here,
but he will abstain from things like bombing runs and using death marks because that's
not like the codes of honorable combat for the Necrons.
Pretty awesome if you ask me.
He also ironically sees it as poor sport to field soulless machines on the field of battle.
He made a comment when the Admech brought some robots to come fight him and he was not
very pleased about that.
Obviously he is a soulless machine, but he doesn't know that so it's okay.
He often speaks to his lumbering Varguard Oberyn, yet expects little to no answers usually.
Oberyn is more just there to listen and be someone to speak to as Zandrik reminisces
and pours over his thoughts and strategy.
Like I said, millions of hours.
He does speak sometimes though.
He speaks a lot more than I would expect him to.
Oftentimes it seems as if he's speaking nonsense and that he's in some grand trance of the
past, but only for Oberyn to realize that goofiness had true meaning all along.
Along with this, when the times arise in war, when important moments come by, his authority
and clarity are undeniable and implacable.
We have another donation.
Colin do you want to read this one out?
I think it's mentioning you here.
Eldritch is the right old one.
Thank you for the five.
Colin, would you go through biotransfers if you kept your mind?
Your pancreas still wouldn't work but you no longer need one.
Dude, if the Mechanicus was real I would be bolting so much shit on my body you wouldn't
be able to tell where led to what.
I would absolutely do that.
He basically waited for the Cyberpunk reality to hit.
Dude, call me David because it's high time I chrome the fuck up.
I don't know why but I just had a reference to the Phantom Pain trailer and just Colin
going, I can still feel my pancreas.
And finally for insulin.
It's a feeling of getting insulin still.
Why do we suffer?
A little bit on that.
I watched, I guess it could be a laugh topic, I watched Hardcore Henry for the first time
the other day.
That was awesome.
A new, new, literally me character dropped.
If you guys haven't seen Hardcore Henry you should though.
It's a goofball.
Who's the South African guy?
Who's like the main, isn't he the South African actor?
I got it.
He's in quite a lot of films like that where it's like a bit, he's in, what's the one with
like...
District 9?
Yeah, District 9 is the one he's also in.
With the prawns, mate, the prawns.
Fucking prawns.
Yeah, yeah.
Fucking prawns.
Insidio di Fricco.
I felt a little nauseous after that movie though from all the freaking first person crazy
stuff.
Because it's all first person it is a bit like, oh it's quite draining to watch.
Such a goofy movie.
But anyways, back to Zandrak.
At times Oberon may almost be goaded into action to leave the side of his master towards
other threats that he sees, perceives as maybe important.
But Zandrak always seems to catch when these threats are feints made to bring his Varguard
away so potential assassins can slay the general.
In the short story, the Imperials kamikaze and lifter close to Zandrak's command barge,
bringing with it some Admech robots.
Oberon requests that he may dispatch the newly arrived foe, but Zandrak claims that the lessers
may deal with such unworthy foes who are the soulless robots.
A small time after, an assassin appears and Oberon realizes the attempted ploy, calling
his leashes early remark another happy accident of nemisorial whimsy, but expecting quite
the opposite.
And at the end of the chapter Zandrak chuckles and asks glad you stayed, making it all the
more apparent that his eccentricities are often laced with genius and he is probably
more aware than he puts off the beat.
There have been moments when the Nemesaur faces reality though, when he was battling
a severed world, which is a tomb world whose nobles were not waking up, so the autonomous
spirit woke up all the necrons and is met going by itself, but it's like animal instinct
necrons just to kill things.
But he sees the necrons that they've gone to fight against and he sees them for what
they are and he says we're fighting us but they're soulless and he kind of freaks out
and Oberon cries into the ship because Zandrak stopped talking to him and he sees Zandrak
crying, he's weeping, which was like sheesh.
But Jesus, that's tough.
Yeah.
On a lighter note though, he does not realize he himself is a machine and there are times
when he relies on Oberon to do things like see through smoke, even though Zandrak's eyes
could see through a thousand different spectra, but he claims that the Vargar's eyes are better
than his old eyes.
He loves drama and theatrics saying what is siege without a little theatre and stuff like
that.
He's just a goofy guy.
He's really fun.
You can't not like him.
But onto the greatest bodyguard in the whole galaxy, sorry NocDDog, you're a G but I gotta
give it to Oberon.
Oberon is a hulking and menacing warrior who has served with Zandrak since his first campaign
within the swamps of Yama after Zandrak graduated from the military academy and won his commission.
The campaign was so successful that the Nemesaur was gifted Gidrim.
This was in the time of flesh and Oberon was born a soldier and was a veteran at the time.
He was one of the first to wake up on Gidrim after the long sleep and immediately went
to learning about everything that had transpired so that he may inform his master of the last
sixty million years.
He is unmatched reflexes and instincts with a reaction time of a thousandth of a second.
He is patient and in control of his emotions, usually not giving into excitement or anticipation,
never striking or leaping to action before the correct moment.
If he is ever elsewhere when his lord is in danger, his pristine and fancy arcane ghost
walk mantle will get him right back to Zandrak in the blink of an eye.
He was created by Dagon, Gidrim's greatest crypt tech and can tear through depths deeper
than the interstices, which is what the necrons use for normal translations.
So when the interstices are jammed, he can still use the ghost walk mantle.
He is an extremely good duelist and efficient general because he often orders and commands
the troops for the smaller things while Zandrak just overwashes the whole thing.
And he is a skilled enough politician.
He is well versed in political ploys and assassination attempts as the other nobles constantly seek
to rid themselves of Zandrak.
In one instant, a lord of Gidrim attempted to deploy his death marks as a suspicious
location, so Oberon accidentally overloaded the transports and destroyed them.
When necessary, he will also cover for the nemesaur because he is charged to defend Zandrak's
honor just as much as his physical form.
He has been decorated seven times by the Order of the Tombfly and was gifted a sepulchral
chamber larger than that of most minor lords.
Along with this, he has his own personal phalanx of ten Lichguard who have survived thousands
of campaigns, many have been with him since Yama and were his friends.
He still considers them as brothers.
Most of them die though, unfortunately.
But he's not sad about it because he sees it as they get to rest, which is what every
Necron really wants.
As Lichguard, they're only barely sentient, so they only understand little things.
They're just that meme.
The meme of the farmer going, it's not much, but it's honest work.
Just like the Lichguard.
I did find out in the book though that when they're faced with, they were fighting Canoptics
and they're unworthy foes, so they Lichguard, discarded their weapons and just killed them
with their hands and feet because they weren't worth using their blades for, which was, knee
little tidbit.
It's not worth the durability damage that I'm going to have to repair later.
I'll just pummel them out.
It would be dishonorable to use my weapon.
Proceeds to beat the crap out of them with fists.
The Phalanx guys also purposely kept their scars and dents and stuff instead of letting
them repair as signs of their identity, which is nice.
Oberon was once a stricter guy, but he's seen so many heresies and transgressions that he
doesn't really care anymore.
But he only cares for his master's safety.
But every so often, he entertains madness and imagines what things would be like without
his master being slain.
Not having to hear the same stories or parables for the thousands of time, not having to pretend
to enjoy invisible wine and drink, but without Zendrick, he is not Oberon.
So his duty persists.
This is a big shout out to Mr. DJ BCF for once again, thank you for telling us that
Colin did make the bed this time.
So that's, we appreciate that as well.
Oh, I got a freaking bald joke.
Eli doesn't have a widow's peak, it's more of a widow's spire.
Man, delivering precious Necker on Lordsville and you do his hairline like that?
Oh my gosh.
You come to the, it's the forehead gang over there.
You leave my boy alone, you leave him out of this.
Listen, this is a strong forehead group, okay?
Back off.
Oh man, the camera angle definitely doesn't help, but that's funny.
Oh my gosh.
There, I miss, if you're watching this guy who used to comment bald jokes on like all
my videos, I miss you, he would comment this like, with the jeans the other calls video
or posts, he'd be like that jeans dealer has more hair than you or something like that.
And stuff like that.
And I sent it to my friends and they freaking loved it.
I think that's what's called an abusive relationship.
We appreciate the mild abuse, but we don't want it that much.
I gotta go through reanimation protocols for that.
Yeah, for real, dude.
Anyways, back to Oberon.
His skill with the blade is completely unmatched.
And I've yet to see or hear anything.
I have yet to hear of him lose any duels that he's fought.
He slain seven Caledas assassins easily, which was pretty baller.
And it shows a still like his master, his thing is rubbed off on him.
He shows a display of dramaticism in the story where the assassin is creeping closer unaware
of Oberon's being able to see her.
She thinks he's undetected, but Oberon found her a long time ago.
But he's responding to Xandrik's wonderings as the assassin is creeping closer to Xandrik
and he says, let them commit my lord, he said, because Xandrik was asking Oberon what he
thinks the enemy, what they should do by the enemy forces.
So he says, let them commit my lord and his doleful husk of a voice, let them feel victories
within reach and take everything from them.
And the assassin's head snapped around at the sound of Oberon's voice and he exploded
forward, swore, sleep, sleeping in a white heart.
Pretty epic.
And while the assassin fight is going on, Xandrik is still pondering, not even seemingly
aware of the battle, bringing up a rhyme in response to Oberon's previous answers.
Take a drubbing, let them advance, wait for the moment, seize your chance.
And he then senses an imbalance and pins the Caledas to the ground, defeating her.
Oberon can pick out things in combat that likely space Marines, even space Marines could
not, even highly advanced machines, I assume could not.
He can spot the tiniest little imbalances and capitalize off of them in an instant with
a speed unlike the rest of his race.
He also knows many ancient blade techniques, demonstrating one known as the spearfisher's
poise, which implies the necronteer had some form of blade traditions, more cool little
history.
He can slow his chromosomes and maximize divination algorithms to fight like a God, his words,
but only for a time, as it will burn away ink ramps and take away himself.
In one moment in the story, along with the things mentioned earlier, he converts half
his energy to mass and rockets through the teeming hordes of warriors to soar through
the air, bellowing Xandrik's name and plunging his scythe into the enemy lord's chest.
That was pretty awesome.
Xandrik!
What the hell is that?
He's barreling towards you.
Like, what is that thing?
So he actually has the ability to go, I'm the juggernaut, bitch, and just run in.
Yeah.
Like, here's a literal version of that.
Yeah, yes, he took half of the energy from his core flux and he converted it into mass,
which like pushed him forwards basically in momentum, which is pretty cool.
We have a donation again from the eldritch, the old great one, thank you my friend.
Thank you brother, thank you.
May I propose a trade deal?
You know, like it's Colin's hairline and Colin gets his pancreas.
I don't think I'm gaining much there, buddy.
No, come on.
That's a good one.
I promise, bro, I'm good for it.
And he took off the mask to the face like Dancy.
That'd be scary.
Scary Andy Ork.
Oh man, but doing that cost him the name of his father and his sense of taste, a small
price to pay in his opinion.
I could go on longer about these guys, but I decided that I should stop because we don't
have all day and we have two kings to talk about.
So I will go through the other main guys, which is Anarchia, Trazan, Orkin, Cezares,
and then Hal will talk about Czar-Rek, the silent king.
And then Andy might have a little bit to say on old texts if he's feeling like it, if we
have time.
Yeah.
And he also knows about a bunch of weird little obscure guys.
But anyway, next we are going to talk about Anarchia, the traveler, my other favorite
character who was also yoinked from the Codex, even though his model was pretty awesome.
It's very large.
And he's blue.
He's freaking blue.
You can't, whatever.
What can you do?
My friend just bought him before the Codex dropped because he wanted to play him against
me and then now he can't.
Feels bad.
I mean, he's still eek.
I appreciate the picture, Andy.
And the mold wasn't glued together very well either.
He can still play with him.
He just has to use the legends rules, which is sad.
But if you're just playing friendly games, you can still technically play.
What it means is that he won't be in the 11th edition Codex unless he is given a new model.
He did have two like little tiny short story in the Codex though, for like two pages.
So that, you know, gives me some hope.
Anyways, he's Anarchar the Traveler, he's Overlord of Pyrrha, which is in the Mephra
dynasty.
And he has the sole divine cause of uniting the Necron dynasties to return them to their
former glory.
He has no care for politics or personal power, only for the betterment of his people.
He is the greatest Necron noble to ever live, at least in these times, as he has sacrificed
all luxury and gain just for his people.
But other lords hate him and see him as a brigand because Anarchar is constantly going
to the aid of Tomb Worlds, awakening them and slaughtering any vermin that may be upon
its surface.
And after he does this, he demands a tithe from these forces so that he may continue
his great journey.
These reinforcements are very necessary as his troops have been battling for eons, literally,
and need constant replenishment.
Those who refuse, he simply takes from.
Anarchar is well versed in politics and extremely skilled in the courtly environment so he can
often negotiate what he needs.
But he's a freaking GE dude.
He has the ability to extend his mind into enemy machines and strangle the machine spirit,
bending them to its will, and in this way the enemy guns will often turn on their own
forces and chaos ensues.
He is accompanied by his immortals, the Pyrrhen Eternals, who are ruthless warriors with thousands
of years of experience.
Despite their lack of higher consciousness and higher self, they are still hardened veterans
and they are loyal to the very end.
In recent times, Anarchar has done a few baller things like kill the Silver Skull's chapter
master, do a little trolling.
I did a little trolling to the Tau as well because he destroyed a high fleet who were
about to invade a Tau colony, but that Tau colony happened to be on a Necron tomb world.
So he went down to the colony and the Tau were rejoicing and congratulating him and so
excited but then he just killed them all because he doesn't care.
And he later fought, oh sorry we have another donation, that's the word, from Eldritch,
thank you sir.
I know I poke fun at y'all but I love your guys' content, I hope you only get more success
in the future.
IDK any group is more chill than y'all, thank you.
Thank you brother.
We appreciate it.
We're all just here to chill out, relax.
If you guys are listening away or painting or stuff like that, just paint one for the
boys right now.
Paint it for the boys.
Paint one out for the boys, that's a term.
Paint one out for the boys, am I right?
There also seems to be a big battle that happened which I would need to read about somewhere
where Trace and Orkin, Zandrak, Stormlord and Anarkir were all a part of it and it was
against the Laetok.
At least I think the Stormlord and Zandrak were there.
Forces from Mandragora and Gidrim were there so they probably were.
But it was against the Laetok and some Exodites and Anarkir uses Orkin to out-Farseer the
Farseer and mess with their prophecy and ends up taking the W. And he's also worked with
Cezares before.
He's got the best skirt in all of the Necron line as well.
His little model actually has a sort of skirting effect so I always thought he was a little
Why do you think GW did remove him and a lot of the lords from the Codex though?
bit of a nice kilt influence there but I don't think he probably sounds Scottish or anything
like that.
He's cool, I miss him.
They want to make new models I guess but because they're old models maybe like I really don't
I miss him bros.
know.
I mean I think they're just a little bit of a
Is it to do with streamlining 10th edition though?
We want to get rid of these weird characters and redo them completely because I feel like
they were like oh we kind of want the Necrons to do one thing and there's too much weird
stuff so we need to pull them back and rethink it.
Or it might be like again like they don't want to make because for GW in all fairness
there's so many characters and models in the line that getting around to make even like
making new ones is quite difficult so maybe perhaps pulling older ones that they can really
release like oh it's 11th edition and then you go guess what comes to your Codex?
A new or revamped thing you're missing.
Do you know there is the conspiracy theory that most of the new models they release they've
had for years and years.
Someone told me that that's why the striking scorpions were so mid because they probably
made them like five years ago.
I don't know three years ahead they said didn't they say that for the people who work in the
modeling department they make the model at least three years ahead of release so then
geez well yeah it makes sense because I remember I think it was a chapter master Valrak at
the time it was ages ago and he was saying he had like a it was again like a rumor thing
that they're gonna be good world eaters will be coming to ninth edition at the end and
this was like early night so they weren't even out like no one even said anything and
then again like that was because they said they'd already made the sculpt for it ages
ago and obviously again there's been a faction release of world eaters at the end of ninth
so I think yeah they probably made all these models now I wonder which ones they've hopefully
made already and they'll be like I just can't wait come on.
I don't know it makes me sad though but what can you do or they just don't want to make
any more of the model so they would just want to get rid of inventory and then.
Is it also a case of they've got these new models for like Emotec and stuff they're like
we want you to buy this yeah we're gonna get rid of the old stuff because we want you to
play these at the tournament so that more people go that's a cool model they buy this
rather than the weird blue guy.
I bought Emotec for my friend who I'm gonna like paint up for him because he's got he
plays Necrons and his dynasty are I think he wasn't he's not playing a particular dynasty
but his like paint scheme is a nice like kind of properly nice gold like a nice sort of
subtly like red gold tint and he's like orange highlights I'm gonna try and hopefully paint
Emotec up but it's so it's delayed and shipping for so long because it's so hard to get an
Emotec at the moment.
Dang.
Oh pain.
Oh my god another Dono.
That one's by Elliot Horpes thank you brother he says hey lore crimes I won a box of heavy
intercessors at a tournament and I converted them into eradicators with melter and flame
bits from the guard.
I did the similar thing with eradicators I needed more eradicators but I didn't want
to buy more models so I just converted up and I just said these are Raven Guard ones
so they're wearing Fobot armor but you know they're eradicators 100% I swear.
Good choice there though.
Sorry continue your life.
Moving on swiftly now for the last three fellas we have Trazin the Infinite who I think is
most people's favorite he's the grand archivist of solemness and he's doing picture drawings
for all your listeners.
I've done all of them now.
And he's been drawing them on post-it notes if you're listening on Spotify or anything
like that.
And I think most of us know Trazin's story for the most part and we are going to go over
Infinite and the Divine in a future episode so I'm not going to go too into it but Trazin
is an eclectic wacky eccentric of the Necrons who's generally hated by all of them because
he's such a weirdo and he doesn't fit into the whole I don't know how to explain it.
Archetype?
Yeah he's not all obsessed with royalty and stuff like that.
He's kind of like how Anarkir is I guess but a goofball instead of like a noble cause type
of guy but I mean he is cause is noble in his opinion.
He holds galleries upon solemness that contain the galaxy's history and he wishes to preserve
the galaxy and all of its history but I think some people say it's just cause he's obsessed
with having stuff so I'll let you decide.
I just got the quick wiki list for what he has in his museum and I'll read it off because
might as well.
So according to that he has a wraithbone choir, the head of Sebastian Thor, the ossified husk
of an enslaver, brother Cassio of the blood angels, one of the shrines that had contained
the world spirit of Karnak, several regiments of Caddachan jungle fighters, a device that
contained the entire high fleet that launched the Tyranid invasion of the world of Eurus,
which Trazin himself had sparked in an effort to add a Tyranid exhibit to his collection.
Lieutenant Commander Serantis of the Ultramarine's legion, his battle brothers and several contemptor
paten drenauts from the time of the Horus heresy and adeptus custodes, several regiments
of the Vistorian firstborn, bring those guys back to GW please I'm begging you, the lost
regiments from Tanith, Astartes of the Salamanders chapter, the last lord, Kastlin of Cadia,
Ersarkar, E-Cred, never forget, Inquisitor Greyfax, I didn't know that he had her, a
perfect clone of the Primarch Fulgrim.
They're dead.
They're not gonna do anything with that by the way.
I know they're not and it's so painful.
They tease us.
An ancient Aldari Kyanite warrior who fought in the war in heaven, a 12-mir tall Kroak
who also fought in the war in heaven, and numerous ancient Necrontyr pots, smoking pipes
and walking sticks, including the one Trazin had used when he still had that organic body.
We have a donation from Tom Warm.
Thank you Tom.
Nice to see you.
What cause could be more noble than stealing everything cool that's ever existed?
Amen.
Fair.
I love him for it.
What's the name for it?
Something kleptic, isn't it?
Or kleptomaniac.
Kleptomaniac.
Or the, you know, as Belisarius called it, abomination.
Yes he is.
I prefer a welcome guest.
He's a historian.
My favorite thing about, my favorite is basically Indiana Jones, but crippled and old, but in
an immortal body.
Yeah.
Tied back in Notre Dame with Indiana Jones.
I do have a favorite sort of fact about Trazin, which is that he doesn't really like the Imperium,
but not for the reasons everyone thinks.
It's because when the Imperium sort of conquered the galaxy, it basically made everything else
Imperium.
So all the little diverse little pieces he could add to his museum all got basically
colonialized into the Imperial style.
So he's like, oh, you ruined my, you know.
You've gentrified my galaxy.
The opening of the infinite vine is like, God, they're so boring.
We got a pine cone on screen, baby.
That's a traffic cone.
What?
Pine cone?
It's a cone.
Do you eat ice cream?
You're like, man, that's a delicious pine cone.
What?
Is that like a local, like, misnomer?
First word that came to mind, I don't know what to say.
Like in, is it, when, when you're eating ice cream, you're like, man, that's a delicious
pine cone.
What?
Is it like a local, like, misnomer?
First word that came to mind, I don't know what to say.
Like, in, is it, everyone, if anyone here is like from South Africa, don't they call
traffic lights robots?
Do they?
I think they call them robots, like, you know, watch out for the robots.
Inbombable traffic light.
Geez.
All right.
We, we will talk about Trazen a lot in the future when we get to that video, because
it's so good.
I still have a little bit on him.
I have, so we can talk about his war gear, because it's pretty unique.
Oh yeah.
His weapon is the empathic obliterator, and this relic dates back to the times of the
old ones and has a potential for incredible destruction.
It has the ability to destroy entire squads of infantry with a single blow.
As the obliterator uses other worldly technology to send out a psionic shock waves, staying
true to his name and obliterating any similar beings within the vicinity.
In this way, he need only spend minimal energy and time to reduce droves of enemies to mush.
His time splinter cloak allows him to view the currents of time, making split decisions
to weave through their currents and avoid attacks with ease.
He stole it from someone.
I don't remember who though.
And the most terrifying weapon in his arsenal are that of the mind shackle scarabs, as these
little constructs will burrow into the desired target's mind and take full control.
Using these, Trazen can turn any he needs to his side so that they may assist him in
his works.
We'll talk about that in the future too, I'm sure.
Trazen is known as the infinite for his use of surrogate hosts, leaping his consciousness
from one Necron to another and creating multiple bodies for such consciousness to travel.
In this way, he will likely never truly die.
Next up is his best buddy rival, Oricon, who is the Necron's greatest astromancer and chief
seer.
He is a crypt tech of sublime skill who can read the Skynes of Fate through great algorithmic
casting and star reading.
He is also a skilled chronomancer, able to reverse time, playing things over and over
again as he enacts zodiacs until he gets it right.
This also makes him almost impossible to pin down in combat as well, although he is not
generally one to fight.
He is less of a general and more of a wandering researcher similar to most crypt techs, but
his future sight does make him a very good commander as he generally almost always knows
what the commander is going to do next.
The Necron Lord is a very relentless fellow, though he will keep trying for thousands of
years as we will talk about him.
When I think of the Necron Lords, I think of the Ysir in particular.
It's like you've got all the Emotech and Sarek, they're like the jocks and everything.
And then Trazin and Oricon are like ones from the chess club and ones from the math club.
They're both the nerds, they're like, oh, they're the guys, they're doing their own
thing and they're just bickering because they, I'm smarter than you are.
And it's like, ah, but that's why we have them.
Anthony says Oricon feels like an incel.
That's funny.
He does kind of, oh dear.
I said pine cone, my fear and hunger brain got into over-drive.
Oh man, but anyways, Oricon's ultimate goal is similar to Cezares, is that he wishes to
achieve a God-like form of pure energy that would rival that of the power of the Kitana.
And when the stars align and his divination succeed, he may find this great power and
become unstoppable for a time.
He has predicted nearly every major event of the galaxy and has, and was paramount in
guiding the Necrons in the great sleep.
And before this though, he tried really hard to get them to not go into biotransference
and he told them that the Kitana were going to betray them and because he saw what was
going to happen, but nobody believed him.
Only one to speak out against him.
It was like that scene in Halo 4 when the guy's like, arrest this man, arrest him.
And that was Oricon just going like, no, don't do it.
I don't know what his rules are like on the table.
I meant to check because I have the codex, but I forgot to.
Because back in the day in like fifth edition, you would roll a dice on all the turns and
if you got the right roll, he would achieve his final form thing and his stats would be
super big, but I'm not sure if they have something cool like that anymore.
But his new model is pretty cool as well.
It is.
It is pretty cool.
They did that one justice and it looks like utterly unique compared to any other Necron
lord.
With his big life preserver head.
Jack in the water, he'll float.
That is what I like about the Necrons because they do have some individuality still amongst
the nobles at least.
Generally their personalities and how they lived transferred over to biotransference
and kind of made them look how they look.
That is cool.
Yeah.
I mean, the three that stand out are obviously like Seras with big spindly legs.
You've got Trazim with his hunchback and then you've got Oricon with his big head.
It's just, I suppose for like a really good Necron design, you have to make it like over
the top.
You have to make him really obviously different, otherwise it's difficult to see the little
details.
Yeah.
DJ Beast reminds me that the infinite and the divine book is half of it is just Oricon
simping over the cryptech lady.
The other half is him and Trazan's sexless marriage.
They were basically trying to do a grave robbing.
Nefra's tomb.
Yeah, no spoilers, no spoilers.
Anyways last on our list today is Illuminor Cezares.
I have not actually watched Pyrrha Nexis, so if there's things that you guys want to
add after this, feel free.
I feel bad for not watching it.
Yeah, he's actually in an official GW animation.
So if you're listening to this, you can go actually check him out on, well, obviously
Warhammer Plus technically, but it's definitely reposted to YouTube for free.
I need to find those nice reposts up in Lacken because it looks really cool.
But anywho, Cezares is the Necron's very own mad scientist.
He's a complete and absolute genius, akin to other crazy guys like Fabius and Call,
probably more like Fabius though in my opinion.
Oh yeah.
As I mentioned a little bit earlier, his ultimate goal is to achieve a form similar to the Catan,
as he has ever believed that his race is being on the path of ultimate evolution.
He aided greatly in biotransference, making it possible with the great and terrible furnaces,
as he believed it to be just another step on this ultimate's journey.
He is constantly researching, but unlike other Necrons has no qualms with touching flesh.
In fact, the large majority of his research is done on living beings.
He wishes to unlock the secrets of life, so of course, dead things won't help much with
that.
But these poor fellas, these poor test subjects, are kept alive by the arcane technologies
of the Necrons, through literally unimaginable experiments.
I'm sure our worst nightmares couldn't even come close to what this freaking guy does.
Could you quickly explain the whole... because he's the only one who will touch flesh.
Can you explain why the others won't, Eli?
Because I know I love this.
Yeah.
Amongst Necron worlds, he is seen as taboo, generally.
For one reason or another, because they just hate flesh, but also because they are scared
of getting the Flayer curse.
So if you touch flesh, it could trigger thoughts like that.
But it's mostly just like, don't touch the vermin flesh, that's disgusting, that's taboo.
If you touch flesh as a Necron ward, the servants whose fault it was, is put to death immediately.
Yeah, I don't know if that was the answer you're looking for.
A good parallel I think is when you were like seven or eight, and you're like, ew, girls,
don't touch girls.
Ew, you get that taboo-cheese flesh.
The flesh is unclean.
The flesh is grody.
The Necrons are probably more... they are more xenophobic than the Imperium, for sure,
I think, because they see every single...
That's a high score.
I think they make the Imperium look like nice guys, because the Imperium will at least generally
talk to Tau and Eldar and work with them sometimes.
The Necrons see everyone else as unclean vermin who should all be genocided and destroyed
and killed.
That does remind me of the fact that it's a small part of the Infinite and Divine, but
it's just a very small segment of when the humans settle on one of the old Eldarri worlds,
and then Trazin translates the Eldarri building that they've built around, and it's a sewer
and he's like, Lydie, his whole thing should be like, ugh, that's disgusting.
Because the idea of them touching anything, like waste or human or even blood, they're
like, ugh, yuck, you touch flesh, scum.
Even in the Necron tier days, they hated plumbing and excrement and stuff.
That was what you...
They freak out about it.
Yeah, that's what you put together.
Meanwhile on Ultramar, they've got the vinegar sponge on a stick, and they're like, what's
the problem, guys?
Oh man.
Yeah, it's the communal Ultramarine shit stick.
Yeah, and you know it's the Ultramarine because it's got an Ultramar symbol on it.
Ultramarine sponge.
Oh man.
Well, maybe more on that another day, I guess.
I'll be making a big Necrons video soon.
I feel like I know way too much about these guys.
But anyways, back to the...
Shout out to who?
The line in the Infinite Vine, you stupid bastard.
You brought us box seats to the coon.
So awesome.
It's a good book.
You should all read it.
All the Necron books are good, honestly.
Maybe the one with Cato Scarius is pretty mid, but that's to be expected because we
all know what happens when Cato Scarius is there.
Guy 1v1s a monolith and freaking wins, but it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
Where was I?
I was Mr. Xerath.
Illuminator Xerath.
Oh yeah, the poor test subjects are being kept alive through unimaginable experiments,
which are like...
For sure, I can guarantee they're worse than the stuff Fabius does, because at least you'll
probably eventually die when you're with Fabius.
But the people who are with Cicero, he keeps alive for quite a while.
You could be in there for years getting freaking amputated and worked on and stuff.
Just horrible.
When their screams get too annoying, he'll just turn off his audio transducers and doesn't
care.
With the many secrets that his research has unlocked, he applies to his legions and other
nobles armies, for a price of course.
This is blasphemy to an insane degree, but Cicero doesn't really care.
He often takes Xeno's biology and integrates it into his armies.
Not like putting eyeballs into Necron warriors and stuff, but like researching an eyeball
and taking patterns and stuff from that, and then upgrading his guys to have similar patterns
to the Xeno's eyeball.
Things like that.
He's also said to create pariahs, which have been kind of reconned and messed around with,
but they haven't been...
They weren't officially reconned, they still kind of are in the lore, sort of, but it's
hard to tell.
But pariahs were essentially, in the third edition Necron stuff, human blanks, who would
then be put through biotransference.
They saw some of their organs, excuse me, in their body, but they gave off the blank
aura, which made them very strong because they had Necron dermis bodies still as well.
And rumors say that Caesar has either planted the pariah gene in humanity, because some
people think that the Necrons put the pariah gene in humanity so that when they wake up
in 60 million years, they'll have a tool to use against the Eldar, against psychers.
Some people say that he tampered with the DNA and genes of the Calexus Assassin Temple,
the Gnoll guys, that is the right one, right?
I think it is.
I don't think so.
Yeah, and he supposedly gave some of them sleeper agent genes to eventually wake up
and go to his tomb world, essentially.
But he's also done the pariah nexus stuff, and that has pariah in the name, so I don't
really know what happened with all of it, but it's there.
If anyone knows the particular lore, if it's important.
The work he's doing with the pariah nexus is he's trying to find a way to get them back
into fleshy bodies.
So that's like, Sarek's like, my man, I need you to work on your project to make us back
into skin bags.
And he's like, yeah, gotcha.
I'm going to have to catch some humans, do some experiments, and it's not going great.
Pariah nexus show is only like three episodes, so it's not very long, it's like an hour.
He's doing some experiments.
That's kind of it.
There's like not any real plot to it.
Well, there's no lore to it.
I know they're doing another spinoff with Sakan, who's the salamander in the series,
because he does a staredown with Sarah, and he's like, intriguing.
You are a worthless human.
Lol.
And he has this whole thing about like, he gets a death mark to try and assassinate him,
and there's a point where he does like a parallel to like the afterlife and religion.
He's like, he has like this head twitch, he's like, do not use such unscientific terms around
me.
I'm like, where are you from?
Edgy atheist, there we go.
Nice.
But yeah, that's the main Necron Lords.
I don't know if I forgot anybody.
I'm pretty sure I didn't.
We can...
Silent King?
... from Anthony Fakansson.
Oh my god.
Anthony.
Pay him for college.
Anthony.
Thank you.
Love you, brother.
Holy cow.
For $100.
Thank you.
As someone who just bought the Old World Tomb King box, it also has Necrons.
Good taste.
Yes.
I can't decide which of them is more petty.
But then I remember the Bretonnia episode and I remember it's neither.
And in fact, Colin is the pettiest of all.
Always a pleasure to catch y'all live.
Thank you.
Bless you, brother.
Thank you very much.
Thank you, Anthony.
Thank you so much.
I'm glad this episode has become the let's all take pot shots at Kotlin's house.
God, I had a go at hairlines, faces, organs that don't work 100%.
Everyone's catching in strays.
Oh, it was a good time.
We very much appreciate it.
You guys keep us fed and alive.
So yes, thank you so much.
What about the man himself?
I will take over for the last little...
Sure is art.
See my little...
For reference.
Andy has done, for all your listeners, he's drawn little pictures of all the Necron lords
we've been talking about.
And Emotic giving the bird.
But having said that though, we're going to speak about Zarek, the silent king.
And unfortunately, as much as he's like, technically the leader of all the Necrons, he doesn't
actually have that much lore, which is kind of annoying.
Although he is a pretty sick tabletop model.
And he goes so cool.
It does.
He got big throne, big throne go hard.
And he's, yeah, he is sort of around, but he doesn't, unfortunately, doesn't have quite
as much personality as the rest of these boys.
But his lore is essentially like he is...
We're going to get into that.
So he is Zarek of the Zarekin dynasty, perhaps the only one who has like one named after
him.
Or maybe not named after him, but named after his, or he's named after the dynasty.
We're not really sure.
But he's also known as the silent king, because as we probably might have all guessed, the
silent king is quite silent.
He actually doesn't communicate with anyone he's talking to.
He kind of whispers slightly to his triarch council, which you'll notice on his model,
the ones who kind of sit either side of him.
They kind of like the slot, basically the bitches of the throne.
They sort of sit there and look intimidating, but they just have to do what he says.
And Zarek is famous because as much as in Necron history, a lot like the Necron lords,
the different dynasties would take over being a silent king.
And the last one would be Zarek himself, and he'd be the one who agreed to essentially
the Katarn's deal of the biotransference, which again was a bit of a goof up because
it kind of enslaved his people, murdered all of the Necron tier and turned them into the
Necrons.
And so there's never going to be a new Necron.
And they basically were enslaved to the Katarn for the massive war in heaven where they fought
the old ones, the Eldar, the Kroak, probably some aliens that we've never heard of.
We won.
We thought we were represented in the end though.
But it wasn't like the Super Bowl, so he couldn't keep coming back every year and trying again.
This is like one big, big old war.
And unfortunately, it just went poorly.
And he kind of, he was given like the command protocol to...
He basically was pretty much the slave master of all of the Necrons.
And he basically couldn't fight against the Katarn because they were so powerful.
Eventually the war in heaven did sort of reach a point where the old ones were basically
defeated and the Katarn were starting to battle themselves.
Thank you Kegarach, I believe, who tricked them into fighting themselves and eating each
other.
The first of many Eldar doves.
The first of many.
The first of the million year rule of Eldari after this.
But this eventually triggered Zarek to go with a plan he'd been working on forever.
He'd asked and secretly in packs with other Necrons, he built machines and weapons that
even to this day, they will not touch.
I think one of them is owned by Illuminator Czarac.
What's his name?
Is that Czarac?
Not Czarac.
Czarac.
Czarac and Czarac.
Yeah, Czarac and Czarac.
Yeah, he gave him a weapon where...
It's like a map of the galaxy, but if he touches it, it basically interferes the galaxy.
I can't remember which dynasty has that.
Yeah, but it's just like if you just go, then that sun goes supernova.
Even he won't mess with that.
And even Czarac the Silent King says they use weapons that fundamentally broke the galaxy
or maybe that ruined the...
Possibly led to the creation of the Chaos Gods apparently in recent lore was a thing.
They essentially broke the Katanda shards.
Then they were just basically stuck in a power vacuum and he released his protocols.
So he wasn't controlling them.
But then the Eldari were basically on the rapid climb up because the Eldari could make
more Eldari, whereas the Necrons were finite.
So they went to the big sleep, which is famous in Necron lore.
And Czarac didn't sleep though.
Czarac basically had insomnia.
He couldn't deal with the guilt, different kind of insomnia.
He went on a very long gap year.
And I do believe this might be Colin's favorite factors.
He went to go travel outside of the galaxy, but Colin, what brought him back?
I think you remember this, Tim.
Ah, I do.
Yes.
You want me to take over for a moment here?
Yes.
Well, you see in his self-imposed exile, who just floating outside the Milky Way galaxy
as one does, when he bumped into a little something known as the Tyranid Highfleets.
Cheeky.
A slight little traffic jam.
And he came back with the most revelatory piece of information the galaxy had ever seen.
He came back to warn the galaxy that the Tyranids are in fact a problem.
Something that truly no one had realized up to that point.
Yeah.
While Emotec was like, I want to kill all the orcs because they're annoying.
Tarzan was just like, they're more than annoying.
They're going to doom the entire galaxy.
I'd also like to shout out Tom Warren for the $2 donation.
Funny message.
Thank you, Tom.
He says, Colin is my third favorite diabetic person.
I just want to hear it.
Yo, who's on the two in one?
I don't know who the two are.
DJ Beast, Colin is my second favorite swap.
I was on your Discord, Colin, and the amount of people who say slop is ridiculous.
It's because I make slop.
I'm making the f***.
Why couldn't we say it's a sloppy Discord?
Anyway.
Sloppy Discord.
Jesus.
So, Zorak is sort of, the only thing that brought him back was the Tyranid threat.
Because the Tyranids are in a way quite similar where like old Necron Lord, they devour, they
both sort of eradicate all life.
But essentially, I think what brought Zorak back was the fact that they waited, they did
the base leaks, they wanted the galaxy to heal so then the Necrons could rule over it.
But there's going to be no galaxy to rule if it's all been devoured and broken apart.
Yeah.
And not only that, if they want to go back to having like bodies, they need experiments.
They need stuff to like harvest to be like, like, let's do some stuff to see if we can
actually become, you know, Necron Tyr again.
It's all been nom'd by the Tyranids.
Like, we're going to turn these in?
No, we're not.
I'm not going in that thing.
That insect.
Ew, bugs.
Ew.
It's not going to work.
In a way, they both, they're sort of like rivals, which is quite interesting.
But Zorak is only, again, they don't see the Imperium as a threat, which is funny.
Because like, or even chaos as a threat, which they're very aware of chaos existing in this
time.
But the Tyranids are the threat when which Zorak actually feels is a, you know, that
could be a real problem.
And interesting enough, there is a tidbit in sort of, it's only really time he showed
up in any like proper written lore in like novel form, or novellas or short stories,
when he meets Dante of the Blood Angels.
It's on a world where the Necrons and Blood Angels are fighting and then suddenly the
Necrons stop.
And the Blood Angels are in the middle of the fight going, hey, yo, what?
And they're like, they're like sworn by Necrons.
And the Necrons just literally stop the doing and then just walk away.
And they get invited to meet the Silent King.
And Dante goes, I've heard a rumor of a Silent King, and I didn't even think it was real.
But we might as well go see for ourselves because we're, you know, if it is a Silent
King, we could possibly, you know, the opportunity is just there.
They can't say no.
And bearing in mind in this trip, Dante and the Blood Angels with him and the Rhino, I
believe they're in, is filled with explosives and the triggers that they're holding in
their own gauntlets, like pressure gauntlet.
But it's one of those triggers where if they let go, it'll all go.
Because they're thinking, we might as well take the opportunity to basically suicide
ourselves with the Silent King.
And then when Dante appears before the Silent King, he looks at the Silent King, who's
like kind of sitting down like crouched, kind of not standing up like a regal ruler, but
more like a sort of nomadic figure.
He turns around and he's wearing a mask of sanguineous on his face.
But it's one where it's smiling on like Dante's death mask, which is sanguineous looking sad.
And the Blood Angels just go like, imagine like this, like for them, they're seeing a
Xenos wear their father's face.
That's very much like someone going, you know, basically literally like a demon wearing Jesus's
like face.
You'd be like, oh, so they're like, oh, this little thing I just put on like, boy, take
that off.
And then he wears his outfit.
So what can I say?
Yeah.
So he was, they were like, this is, they were, they were so far beyond disgusted, like they
weren't angry anymore.
You know, like you go far beyond anger where it's like, I'm not even pissed.
I'm like, I don't even know what I should be feeling.
But it's quite interesting because like Silent King's art goes out to him and basically it
whispers in his ear.
He's like, hey, how mama Libby was being a kid.
He's like sort of a little bit, you know, sussy and he's, because again, he doesn't
speak out loud properly.
He sort of whispers his intentions to Dante and they basically say, yo, tyrannids are
coming bro.
Want to team up?
We was a mistake.
We shouldn't have been fighting.
And then Dante goes, fine.
It's a good idea because an Imperial world, but technically, but actually slowly the Necrons
start evacuating their forces.
They, they let base the blood angels take a lot of the brunt, but they still managed
to beat off the beats.
The turn is off, not beat off the turn.
Sorry.
I'm a bit flub, but that's kind of his most recent appearance.
And even, I guess, as I said, like prior Nexus, he's still trying to unite the dynasties,
but not really as their all powerful ruler, but more as a sort of rally crying figure
to help fight a great threat.
And the Imo-Tech is clearly proving to be a problem.
And that's kind of the end of, it's a bit of a shame because Zara doesn't have, again,
he's a bit more of a mysterious figure, kind of like how even the Emperor had a more dialogue
than this guy does.
And the Emperor is meant to be like a distant figure, but that's kind of it on Zarek though.
I do believe if there's anything else, I think that might be the last.
Unless Andy, you've got a few minor ones you want to talk about.
I think there's only like a couple worth mentioning.
There's basically this entire dynasty called the Subakar, which is in the Jericho Reach,
which is where the Death Watch books are.
There was this pharaoh known as Amon-Tech, and he killed a Katarn, and he was known as
the Red Scythe, and he actually killed it.
And it was like, wow, that guy's cool.
Everyone went to have their big nap-nap.
Everyone woke up, and for some reason, the pharaoh didn't wake up.
And the cryptips had a look in his brain.
They're like, oh, there's some weird stuff going on in there.
But he's super powerful.
We're not going to just end him, but we can't wake him up because his brain's a bit damaged.
And so there's a big power struggle going on within them.
There's like Aho-Tech, not to be confused with Amon-Tech, am I right?
But Aho-Tech is like the region below, and there's a power struggle going on.
And they're kind of cool, but they don't have much more.
I did a few videos on them, but they're literally like, there's a destroyer lord who's pretty
cool who's just like the guys with the hover pads for legs.
He's one of the relatives of the Red Scythe, and he went mental.
And for millennia, he woke up really, like Aho-Tech plotted for him to wake up millennia
earlier than they were supposed to.
So he went insane, and he kind of plotted to be like, I'm going to make you wake up
really early, and I'll send you over here, and you do this, just so he could assume control.
There's not really much more to say about them, but they're just kind of cool.
They're like, oh, there's a Necron who actually killed a Katarn.
Is he a model?
No.
Just a guy.
The last guy that did that created the destroyer or the Flayer virus.
So that kind of didn't go so hot.
Yeah, bad track record.
It's like, oh, you killed a Katarn, but you're going to inherit some bad stuff.
Just a minor oopsie.
You can work past it.
Give or take away chromosomes.
How many Necrons really have the Flayer?
Like, out of the hole, right?
Not many, but a lot of them say that it's the fate that'll take them all eventually.
Yeah, but when you live forever, eventually something is going to go wrong.
Really, I think murdering a Katarn, oh, some of you go a little bit goofy.
That's a small price to pay.
Slight goof.
Don't remember your entire identity.
The Flaydons themselves don't like...
They don't think they're goofy.
Servitors exist, and that is for a much less good purpose than murdering a whole ass Katarn.
I don't want to know, you lose your memory.
What the fuck, that dude got lobotomized.
Some servitors do remember as well.
That's the horrific part.
That's even worse.
Although there are rumors that the Crimson Scythe actually wakes up sometimes and just
does like a...
He just like butchers civilizations and the Jericho Reach goes back to sleep and is like,
what?
That's weird.
It's like, you're not you when you're hungry.
You're a butcher in civilizations.
What was that?
Snickers advert.
It's called Snickers over there as well, isn't it?
Snickers?
Yeah, we got Snickers.
Oh, thank God.
Some things are like in North America, just not named the same.
I'm kind of getting...
Was it Lay's chips?
Yeah, we got those.
They're not called Lay's here.
What are they?
They're called Walkers.
Walkers?
I'm not messing with you.
They're actually called Walkers.
I mean, I guess that's a little strange, but like, whatever.
Oh, Axe body spray is not called Axe here.
What is it called?
Lynx, like the animal.
Oh, that's even trashier.
Slinky Lynx.
Lynx?
Yeah, because when I was younger, people would make reference in like teams like, oh, you
smell like Axe body spray.
I'm thinking like, what is Axe body spray?
And then I saw the thing, I'm like, oh, that's just Lynx.
And it's like, oh, because it's probably something else.
Yeah, like Lynx Africa is like the one that we use.
Axe or Lynx or whatever you call is already...
They can call whatever they want.
The only thing I can ever associate with is a high school locker room or some asshole would
drink it all.
I don't know.
The main point is the Virgin Snickers versus the Chad Lion Bar.
Let's just put that out there.
That sounds pretty tasty.
Lion Bar is superior.
I'm going to say a few more of those things, but yeah, like the Lynx and the Walkers thing
is still pretty in my living rent free in my brain.
But speaking of not taking any other thing that live rent free in my brain, though, I
think Colin, we're going to talk about something.
Oh, we had Necrons, but we had Necrons at home, I think, because we're going to the
OG Necrons, aren't we Colin?
The original, the copy of my homework from this is the original homework.
Where they once came from, the Tomb Kings.
Tomb Kings.
I'll keep it relatively brief, especially because as with a lot of Warhammer fantasy
factions, it's pretty easy to tell at least what the basis of them is.
The basis of the Tomb Kings is, of course, you know, ancient Egypt.
Very cool.
Oh, would you like me to just a quick clarification?
Should I save all the comparisons between them for after the basics of the lore?
Yeah, let's do it for the end.
This is just introduced because obviously some people who are listening maybe are not
as familiar with Warhammer fantasy stuff.
So thought that was the plan just to want to clarify the Tomb Kings were once, you know,
Warhammerified Egypt.
They were all alive.
You know, they were they were people.
They were civilization of humans.
The earliest one, in fact, in Warhammer fantasy before the Empire, Bretonnia, Kislev, any
of the others, there was the Tomb Kings.
They were, you know, Bronze Age-ish, but towards the end of their time as humans, spoiler alert
upcoming for that one, they started, they had limited access, very limited access to
guns from Cathay.
I think they even had like some like balloons and stuff like steamship kind of things.
So you know, they had some cool stuff, but overall Bronze Age humans, they were initially
very in touch with their gods, then they weren't, then they were kind of on and off thing.
And they ruled over because if you look at the Warhammer fantasy world, it's pretty clearly
just like Earth.
You know, that squashed a bit.
Yeah, it's squashed a bit, then stretched back out.
It was it was Earth you dropped on the floor and then you had to quickly put it back together
again.
We got a donation, sorry, from Zombie Eggplant for $10.
Thank you.
Thank you, brother.
Thank you.
Good name.
It's a good name.
But yeah, so they they were, you know, they were chugging along, survived the incursions
of chaos, the great catastrophe when chaos enters the world by fighting alongside their
gods to drive out all those nasty demons.
And you know, the civilization went on for quite a few thousand years.
They were, they had obviously their Golden Ages, their not so Golden Ages.
There were rulers, of course, like the one and only Setra the Imperishable, who decided
the entire planet belonged to him and he made a pretty damn good showing at doing that.
They as time went on, started to realize.
And there's another drawing here, but it was like a tomb king with a chef hat.
We're going to assume that's a tomb guard for Setra would behead you for such insolence.
But yeah, so eventually, Setra himself and others kind of realized death is going to
rob me of all my achievements.
So they started working on becoming immortal, and they expanded their lives by many years
and even some very limited immortality for some of those, the mortuary cult who was looking
for immortality.
It was immortality, but you still aged.
So eventually they turned into these desiccated mummies.
It was immortality light, dying immortality.
They weren't going to die.
Immortality zero.
They might wish they were dead.
Immortality new flavorings.
Yeah, new coke immortality.
But yeah, and so, but again, as with all things, rises and falls, ups and downs with their
civilization, they were overall pretty prosperous, though.
From the outside, it didn't look like much was going to really bring them down because
obviously there's orcs everywhere.
It's a war hammer setting.
They're going to find orcs.
There would be orc hordes they fight, occasional demons, chaos worshippers, stuff like that
that they fight and deal with pretty handily.
We have another dono from Tom Warren here.
Thank you, Tom.
He puts the war hammer world is just what we have.
Earth at home meme.
Yeah, Tomb Kings are...
No, no, go ahead.
Go ahead.
Oh, sorry.
Tomb Kings are doing pretty good.
And then one certain individual named Negash was born and then very rapidly the Tomb Kings
stopped doing very good.
Such is the power of Negash.
That line is so good.
The most narcissistic person who's ever existed, by the way.
He's not really a tomb king, but he's just honorary mention.
He's pretty involved in their story.
You can't talk about the Tomb Kings and not mention him because then you're just skipping
what happened that made them the Tomb Kings.
He was born the first son of a Tomb King king.
At this point, they were just Nehekharens.
Problem is Tomb King society is a little bit goofy.
The firstborn son goes to the mortuary cult instead of being the king.
Negash did not like this, but because he went to the mortuary cult, he learned how to be
a wizard.
So he started studying dark magic, started getting a little bit evil.
This is post death of great conqueror, Setra the imperishable.
Setra is like the Alexander of the Tomb King.
This is basically, I think it's a couple.
It's not explained how long after.
It's a long while after.
It's quite a while after.
But Setra is like a great, Setra has got a pyramid and shit.
This is way centuries down the line.
Oh, sorry.
We have another Dino here by Lelouch Rue.
Thank you, brother.
Again, we appreciate your support as always.
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Keep it up.
We're just hitting Tomb Kings right now, but we just did a great lashing of Netcon Lords.
Obviously, we're going to compare the two more to the end, but Colin's just directing us
through the bone or the not yet bone daddies.
Soon to be.
He's talking about the most selfish person.
I'm not a fan of that poll.
Colin's talking about the most selfish individual.
I didn't do anything.
The scum of the earth in the Warhammer world, Nagash.
Yeah, Nagash starts learning how to do magic.
And then eventually a neighboring city state to his brings over some dark elves that capture
to be used as sacrifices.
And the Nagash goes, I'm going to learn magic from them.
So he does.
He he was he was supposed to sacrifice them.
He didn't.
He just locked him in the basement of a pyramid and he gave them a deal.
You can either teach me dark magic or I can kill you here and now.
And that's quite the hard bargain.
So they agreed.
And Nagash became the first human ever to properly wield dark magic.
They escaped and then he killed them, which is pretty impressive because elves whole thing
is they're good at the magics.
And the gosh was like, yeah, but no, I'm I'm better.
So he killed them.
And then Nagash killed his brother, who was the king, cucked him and took his wife, you
know, just really add to the list of reasons he's a piece of shit.
Started raising the dead, which in the Hecarim society is a big no, no, because first of
all, he was the first necromancer.
He invented it.
Second of all, death is sacred.
You're not supposed to do with dick with them.
And he said, yeah, but free army forever.
So he raised the dead to rule his stolen city.
He started bankrupting Khemri, the capital of Nehekhara.
And eventually he was defeated by the seven nation army of seven other city states, was
driven out and came back after, you know, a pretty decent amount of time.
And in the meantime, he had accidentally invented vampires because someone stole his research
notes and didn't quite get the formula right for eternal life.
And with them as new lieutenants, and of course, his ever loyal servant, Ark in the Black,
he waged war on the Hecarim.
And this time he was going big or going home.
I think he actually turned into a lich as well at this time.
Yeah, he he died, but he decided that was lame.
So he just possessed.
He died and got better.
It was exactly he died, but got better.
Pretty much.
There was some things in the gash did, but this isn't quite all about the gas, just two
kings.
So I'm speeding up a little bit past that.
As he was waiting to Hecarim, he was killing everyone.
He was poisoning the Great River Vitae, which is the not Nile.
And he was getting ready to cast a spell to kill everyone on the planet and then raise
all of their corpses, which he kind of got off.
It only killed everyone in the Hecarim and raised them up.
But that pretty swiftly put an end to, you know, Nehekara.
Everyone died except for successfully.
Except for the last king of all kings of the tomb kings, Alcades are with the help of the
skaven of all people managed to slay in a gash and send his spirit back to the afterlife
for about five minutes because he's a necromancer that doesn't really stick.
But as it means for the tomb kings and the gashes gone, and they have to contend with
the fact that they're now all undead, which has caused some problems because it wasn't
just the last line of the existing Nehekara that was brought back.
It was pretty much all of them.
Everyone who ever died and still had a reasonably intact skeleton or and or mummy.
So you'd like to see your grandad, your great grandad and his great grandad.
All of them.
Spider-Man memes that everyone like pointing at each other.
It's kind of like people going, hey, grandad, put some clothes on.
I can see your bones.
Yeah.
So it wasn't great.
And all of the newly resurrected tomb kings started fighting amongst each other until
the Hierophant Katapa woke up, Cetra and said, please fix this, because we clearly can't
do this on our own, which he then did because he's Cetra the imperishable and pretty swiftly
knocked everyone back into line.
And that kind of brings us to the modern day tomb kings.
They've been like this for quite a few thousand years to the point that even by the time of
Sigmar being born, they had already been tomb kings for quite a few years.
So and then ever since they've been.
Honestly, even more fractured than the Necrons.
Some of them just want to sit in Nehekara.
Some of them want to conquer outwards.
Some of them don't really care and are just trying to have fun with immortality.
Some of them frantically want to get a new body back, be it like just any body they can
put their soul into.
The mortuary called Did Promise Cetra, he would return with a new golden body.
So some of them are like, ooh, that'd be some cool I'd like to get.
It's messy in Nehekara.
But with Cetra kind of vassalizing everyone, he basically told them, look, you can fight
amongst yourselves a little bit, but when I call you, it's time to fight.
So there is some semblance of order in Nehekara, kind of like with the Silent King.
But it's very tenuous.
And the moment Cetra isn't looking, it kind of falls apart.
To be honest, the way you said it's always messy, just made me think of a tie in of it's
always sunny in Nehekara.
I'm just going to go and conquer Altdorf, Nagashvillam Sivadol.
Cetra likes to have his tools.
He likes to bind.
I like to bind.
I like to have my tools.
God, that's a good episode.
Everyone knows a reference there.
Oh man, it's always sunny in Nehekara.
That's so good, dammit.
I'm so annoyed I didn't think of that.
Yeah, that's the basics of the...
You know, the Tomb Kings.
Would it be fair to say there's like, between Nagash and Cetra, there's parallels with,
for example, Sarek and Emotech?
Because I know the kind of thing is that the Tomb Kings are the origins of the inspiration
for the Necrons.
Is there much overlap in that regard?
There's some.
You can definitely see some parallels, but with Nagash and Emotech specifically, do correct
me if I'm wrong, but Emotech doesn't have this complete and utter disdain for his fellow
Necrons.
Obviously he doesn't like the Silent King, but he doesn't see another Necron and is like,
you're dirt.
Like, is that roughly in the ballpark?
I think so.
I think Nagash does not care anything about, like, he didn't take power because he wanted
to restore order because his dynasty was a shit show.
He took power because he's evil and his motivations kind of end and stop at, I'm evil.
Yeah.
Sadly, Nagash is not quite in Total War Warhammer yet, but...
With the mod.
Oh, it's not quite official.
I know it's not official, but that...
It is a pretty impressive mod, though.
It's one of those mods that makes you go, why aren't you just working for the company?
Why are you doing this for free?
But speaking of lords, though, I do believe quite a few of these Tomb King lords actually
you're able to sort of play in the Total War Warhammer franchise at the moment, though.
Indeed.
Do you want to keep going?
Sorry, you go through it.
I'll go through, like, it'll mostly be the legendary lords in Total War Warhammer, but
a couple different ones.
We'll start with Ark in the Black, alphabetical, and he's Nagash's right-hand man, so fair
to start with him.
Right-hand bitch.
Jesus, jump bitch.
Yeah.
I will, of course, save the best for last, so there's a reason I'm not starting with
him, don't worry.
Ark in the Black, he was once just kind of a hedonistic scumbag of a nobleman, and just
kind of floating through life being a hedonistic scumbag.
I think there's a couple different explanations that have been used for his teeth being black.
Call him Ark in the Black.
One is that his teeth were all rotted and disgusting, and he chewed a root that made
them, like, blackened.
He was an unpleasant person to be around when he was alive.
He became Nagash's servant and had a bit of a competent, like, everything boost, like
he went from this scumbag nobody to someone who would probably be, honestly, a pretty
clever, like, anti-hero at worst.
For it not for the fact that his boss is Nagash, who's really just here to eat your soul and
enslave you forever, so if he had a better boss he might be a lot cooler of a dude.
He just needed someone to believe in him.
That's all he needed.
Yeah.
Someone who isn't Nagash.
But yeah, Ark in the Black, he's very clever, he's a very gifted mage, and he died early...
He escaped Nagash's first death.
He didn't die, but when Nagash was put down the second time...
No, pardon me, I got that flipped.
He, I believe he died holding off the armies that would allow Nagash to escape the first
time around.
He was brought back, because Nagash kind of invented necromancy, so that's really not
much of a chore for him.
And ever since, Ark in has been his right-hand man.
As for his role in the Tomb Kings, he's a bit...
He's definitely the black sheep of them all.
Satra very begrudgingly allows him to exist, although he regularly goes to war with him
whenever Ark in gets a bit too obvious that he's trying to bring back Nagash.
And Ark in, for his part, is kind of a mercenary.
He'll go around the world looking for things that can help his necromancy powers to bring
back Nagash.
And in the process, sometimes he works for people you might not expect, whoever...
If the end result will be he's able to get artifacts of necromantic power, or even can
just afford to buy them from somewhere, he's taken some mercenary contracts.
For other Tomb Kings, occasionally for other factions, he gets around.
And of course, he's the only Tomb King, aside from Nagash, that has returned in the Age
of Sigmar.
So hey, if that interests you, Ark in's still around and kicking.
Kind of.
Eltharion threw him into the void, so who knows what's going on.
He's a bit lost.
Yeah.
He also, he of course, had a starring role in the End Times.
He killed Warhammer's first ever special character, like ever.
Heinrich Kemmler.
Oh, feels bad.
He's an Ark in's a Lich.
Yeah, necromantic wizard who...
He fights Gottrick and Felix a couple, or one time, I believe.
Yeah, Heinrich Kemmler does, although he promptly leaves before nature can take its course on
him.
Before he gets an axe between the legs or something.
Yeah.
And during the End Times, he's...
Obviously, he's doing all of Nagash's moves that he needs someone important to do.
It's even funny when he kills Kemmler, because he's noticed the Lich Master and Ark in's
a Lich.
And he even, I think, makes a snide comment to himself, like, the Lich is beating the
Lich Master.
I'm so fucking clever.
He turned into a bit of a sarcastic smart mouth in the End Times, for some reason, which
is neat.
But yeah, that's Ark in, right hand of Nagash is the most important thing to know about
him.
Quite powerful, though.
Not the kind of guy you want to mess with.
Next, I can't keep calling...
DJ Katap is what people have called him, because he has this...
Yeah, he rides like the mountain, it looks kind of like a DJ table.
He was one of the heads of the Mortuary Cult, which means he's a Lich of quite good magical
power.
And his importance in the Tomb Kings comes when he, you know, decided to wake Setcher
up, because the infighting was a bit absurd by that point.
He's like, I need someone who will fix this.
Now, the problem there lies in the fact that the Mortuary Cult had made a promise that
they weren't going to wake Setcher back up until they had found a way to give him his
golden body.
So he woke Setcher back up, he brought everyone into line, and then he immediately exiled
Katap for not having that golden body for him, and said he could never return until
you give me that body.
So Katap kind of just wanders the Warhammer world, looking for anything that can help
give the Tomb Kings a proper body once again.
That's really the extent of what he does.
He is the one who returned in the End Times to warn Setcher that Nagash was coming back
for real this time, whereupon Setcher heard him out, thanked him, and then cut his head
off.
Because he had still not...
He didn't find the golden body, Setcher's not one to be trifled with.
Yeah, so...
Damn, hell of a way to go though.
Not really worth it, but worth it.
There's Kalida, warrior queen, High Queen Kalida.
She's very cool.
She's worshipped the serpent god, because you'll notice there's a lot of parallels between
the Egyptian mythology and the Tomb Kings.
And her cousin was the first vampire, Neferada.
And Neferada, you know, Kalida found out Neferada was a vampire, and kind of made that known
to Tomb Kings at large before they were the Tomb Kings.
And Neferada accidentally killed her in a duel and tried to bring her back, except the
snake goddess Asaph poisoned Kalida's blood so she would not become a vampire, and killed
her on the spot, which is a weird way to save someone, but it's better than, I guess, eternal
damnation from vampirism.
And when she came back as a tomb queen, she was very honored.
She was pretty much the only one Setcher didn't have to beat in the line, because Setcher
came back and she was just like, yeah, or whatever, just let me kill vampires and I'll
be content to do whatever you tell me to do.
She's one of those kind of like you were saying earlier, Eli, with like Zandrak being one
of the few that has a personality.
She and her army is like one of the few that have a like a particularly standout personality,
like her constructs are some of the only ones that have like a personality, like some of
her tomb guard or the Ushabti, like kind of play like pranks and stuff.
Like they like to just make jokes and they're kind of they're fun to be around or as fun
as any tomb king to be around.
And even her, she meets Gottrick and Felix once and gives them an ultimatum by putting
a wrist like just a bracelet on Felix's wrist and says, hey, you go kill these you go kill
this vampire that's causing me such problems.
And if you make it back to me in time, I will, you know, put the thing take the thing off
your wrist.
That is a big hat.
Before I mention Ark and the Black has basically like a massive, yeah, hope hat.
It kind of looks like if Lord of Mid His Holiness went to war, but then also was a skeleton.
Yeah.
But yeah, and a goth.
With the Gottrick and Felix, they killed the vampire in time, but they didn't quite make
it back to Lamia, the king, the city state she rules in time.
And the wrist thing, you know, it happened, but it didn't poison Felix.
And so they were confused like what did did you release me and Nefra was like, no, I was
just fucking through the whole time and he poisoned that thing had it dried up centuries
ago.
So she's a bit of a goofball when she wants to be but she's also incredibly dedicated
to hunting vampires because in her eyes, her eyes, they're part of the reason they all
turned into tomb kings.
And beyond that, they're just unholy and the first one was her cousin.
So she's got a lot of personal beef with vampires specifically.
There is a couple more minor ones.
So the mummy returns with like, can you just point out how good that film was the first
one?
You don't see the money returns.
I've never seen any of the mummy movies.
Of course, cause no, it's a damn film.
Oh my gosh.
It's a goofy Brandon Fraser movie.
It's not a goofy.
It's good.
It's classic.
It's goofy in a good way though.
Like it's not, I guess it's not trying to be goofy.
It was very serious at the time, but it's just like all the fun moments of like the
goofy moments of Indiana Jones, but that's the entire film.
Age line or wine though.
Those films are pretty good.
Honestly, it's a childhood vibe in this.
You've been ready a bit before your time today, but just don't watch the scorpion king.
Cause the CGI rock is terrifying.
Oh my God.
That's still the worst CGI in all film history.
Cause it's fun.
It's fun bad.
I remember watching the mummy, the first one, you guys watch it now as adults.
We'd be like, oh, it's not that bad.
But the actual mummy scared the crap out of me when I was like a kid.
Cause it looked so horrific.
But speaking of actual proper mummies.
The only scene I've seen is when one of them is like approaching the one guy and he's just
playing out every single religious object.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
And he pulls out a star Dave.
He's like, ah, you speak the language of the slaves.
And I'm like, wow.
Yeah.
By the way, I call it.
We've got a donation from Lutti McShootie for $5 saying question for Mr. No work, which
Vtuber would be a good tomb lord?
My guess would be Pippa cause cringe.
Louie is the one who likes fantasy, so her, and I will move on from this for the benefit
of three other people who are probably sitting here like shut up.
But thank you.
And there's my answer.
Oh chat, we're sorry we haven't seen the mummy.
Please have mercy.
I'm not.
Lord Cron's movie night is a pretty good idea to have.
We probably would get a copyright strike.
We might do that for like a private member's like own thing.
Discord thing maybe one time.
There's two more I want to mention real quick.
There's Apophis who was a, a real scumbag.
He was a prince who wanted to be the king of the city state of Numis, but you know,
he wasn't, he wasn't to get, get the throne.
So what he did was slit the throats of everyone who was going to have the throne and then
just kind of declared himself king.
That'll do it.
Yeah.
And that went as well as you'd expect, like everyone just ganged up on him and beat him
up.
And then as execution, they threw him in a pit of no, pardon me.
It wasn't a pit.
He was put in a sarcophagus filled with flesh eating scarabs and they closed it on him.
And when they opened it back up, the scarabs had all disappeared and there was just a human
skull, which they then inscribed a curse on just for good measure and threw it in the
desert.
And this is the plot of the mummy then, cause that does happen to something similar happens
to what the guy with the inspiration.
It's not really a spoiler, but like a plot or part of the movie, like a flesh eating
scarab goes, it buries into a guy and you can see it going up his wrist.
He's like, yeah, you can see it moving under his skin.
And it's like, interesting.
Well, apparently the bracelet story is from the mummy as well.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, there's the mummy too.
There's like a bracelet thing they put on.
Someone get the release dates.
The mummy was after four Hammer Fantasy of Breach, I sure hope.
BRB, alright, head on out brave soldier.
But, it was it.
So then Apophis, he gets to the underworld and would be denied entrance into the honored
halls of heaven.
The best case scenario he had was eternal torment.
The worst case scenario was just get his soul erased, like you're gone, goodbye.
And he made a deal because he was still technically royalty and royalty were allowed to make deals
with the gods for some reason, with the god of the dead, Ussirian.
And he said, listen, if I can find a soul, that's an exact match for mine.
Can I go to heaven?
And Ussirian was like, yeah, sure.
That sounds good to me.
Go look for that soul.
So Apophis is this wandering assassin with a body made out of scarabs that just wanders
around looking for an equal soul.
But he's never going to find it because no two souls are made exactly equal.
So he's basically just doing himself to forever wander the lands as a murder hobo.
It's not ideal.
And then of course, the last greatest tomb king, Setra the Imperishable, and his fullest
of titles that no joke takes two hours straight to say.
Someone in the comment section is gonna be...
Some brave soldier's gonna put the entire thing in the comment section.
If someone wants to go find that The Total War copypasta and just throw that in, that'd
be great.
We'll pin it.
But unlike, you know, I would say quite a good deal amount of characters with many titles,
this man earned all of them.
As a tomb king, he was the greatest.
You know that, you know, it's better to be feared than loved, but have both?
Setra was smart.
He got both.
He made sure to treat his people fairly, even the slaves.
He built monuments to the gods, brought back their favor to Nehekhara.
He did that by sacrificing all of his children in their honor.
And if you rebelled against Setra, you were no longer on the map of Nehekhara.
If I... do I remember correctly that I think... isn't Nagash a descendant of Setra, I think,
in some like distant, distant...
I think it's Al-Kadhi-Zar, because I think I've read that like there was like a... either
a son Setra had after he did, you know, the first round of, you know, filicide, or at
one he missed.
Or was Vlad, or who would become Vlad.
He was a descendant of Nagash.
Because that was why he got given sort of special treatment over Neferata.
Was Nagash like, oh, you're a descendant of mine, oh fine, you'll become the leader of
the vampires or something at the time.
I don't remember that, but I'm not gonna say it didn't happen.
It's hard because Vlad, that stuff is either... like it's in flux, it's not quite... because
some things say like he was... like he was chosen as like sort of... he was turned into
a vampire by Neferata and then made like her consort.
And then other ones it was just Nagash basically chose him as like a leader because he sort
of like... excuse me, he like defected to their side and he was basically like, oh,
but you're like my descendant, that's kind of cool.
And so he is contradictory in some circles.
I do think Nagash was a descendant of Cetra in some capacity.
Al-Qaeda's czar was like, I think, not quite solidly confirmed, but close to it.
Like he had some of Cetra's blood in him.
I don't remember ever hearing about that from Nagash.
Or is this like the Charlemagne thing where it's like everyone's a descendant of Charlemagne?
It could also be that.
Yeah, it's so long ago and plus it's like it gives you some amount of prestige to just
go, yeah, I come from a big cool guy.
Oh, there's a...
Whenever anyone mentions Charlemagne, I just think of Christopher Lee because he did a
metal album called Charlemagne.
He's just like, I killed the blood of Saxon men.
I shed the blood of many Saxon men.
Yeah.
So when people were saying like, oh, I'm, you know, in my answers, I'm a descendant
of William the Conqueror.
It's like, yeah, most of Europe is too fair as well.
So it's not that, but we're all kind of...
I think I've watched even weirder one where I found...
This is way off topic, but someone did it in...
There's like a channel that did...
He did show like descendant histories and things, like, you know, like charts and there's
maps and the queen is a descendant of Muhammad.
Which is like, you may actually go like, oh, yeah, so literally everyone's connected to
everyone at some point.
Well, yeah, isn't it?
It's like you're only five steps removed from pretty much anyone on planet Earth if you
try and find that.
Basetia was not five steps away from everyone because he was in people's faces as soon as
he...
Yeah.
He was the Conqueror, man.
He was about...
Yeah.
And as a tomb king, he expanded Camry to its greatest borders.
I mean, the dude ended up in Lustria at one point, which for reference, ancient Egyptians,
you know, going to South America, he conquered around.
Well, just a quick thing, they're not called tomb kings at this point, are they?
No, I've called them tomb kings just because...
The kingdom of Nehekhara, which is the land.
They're just like Nehekhara's.
And he, of course, founded the Mortuary Cult because when he was starting to get a little
bit older, he started realizing, I can't punch death in the face.
I can't fight that enemy and win.
So he needed people to solve that for him.
Still went on to do great things, Conqueror, and he was both feared and loved by his people
because, again, he treated them fairly, but if they stepped even an inch out of line,
they were beheaded pretty much instantly.
And when he finally died, he was angry at it, but he started the...
He bid the Mortuary Cult to find that damn golden body for him and started the trend
of Nehekhara and kings building big old pyramids and taking their entire army with them to
be buried alongside them, which means God Nehekhara must have had a lot of people in
it because that is a lot of people going in with them every time.
And yeah, no one would build a pyramid bigger than Settras because they were that afraid
and respectful of the guy.
And when Nagash did his...
He did the funny and brought all the Tomb Kings back.
His was the only pyramid that didn't automatically awaken for his was given such powerful protective
wards that even Nagash couldn't penetrate it.
When he rode back out, he just started bitch slapping Tomb Kings and Queens left and right
until they started behaving.
And he declared that Nehekhara would rebuild and the age of Congress would begin once again.
Because even though he didn't have a golden body, he's back in a mortal now in some capacity.
So it's time for him to get to work.
Some quick fun facts about him.
He burned down half of Norsca because one of them stole his crown once and that just...
That wasn't going to go unpunished.
And it's quite cold to burning it down.
It's quite a feat.
Honestly, yeah, it was pretty impressive.
It's also going from Egypt to Scandinavia.
So pretty impressive.
The fact that they have boats is still surprising to me.
I suppose in a way, so you don't need winter clothing.
You ain't got any skin.
Yeah, fair enough.
You're going to freeze.
I don't think the ice encasing your bones might be like extra armor.
But he...
At one point, the high elves decided to help him out with a demon incursion on his frontline.
And he was so generous that he allowed them to leave with their lives intact.
So compassionate at times.
Such a good man.
Or both.
Every now and then... yeah.
Truly a great man.
Truly so forgiving.
Every now and then he likes to try and blow up Magash's black pyramid, both because it's
an evil magical waypoint, and because Magash built it bigger than his and that simply cannot
be allowed.
It doesn't work, but you know, A for effort.
Because it's made of black... we should have prefaced...
Magash made this during his mortal lifetime, which was a massive blasphemy, and it's made
of a special black stone that just is nigh on...
But the black stone slash pyramid, again, is something we have to keep revisiting because
the amount of times it's blown up by Skaven is so funny.
That's later though.
That's not quite Tomb King's lore.
That's Magash.
Another time.
And he is perhaps the only person in the End Times to get a death that doesn't make you
angry.
Because he fought Magash, who by this point ascended to Godhood one on one, and was doing
a pretty good job of it.
Eventually, Magash got the upper hand, told Settra to serve him.
Settra screams, Settra does not serve.
Settra rules, which is...
The hardest line.
Settra's sword, and then Magash blew up all but his skull so he could watch Khemri burn.
And then Settra was given something that I don't think any other character was given
in any Warhammer setting.
A no-strings-detach offer by the Chaos Gods, who said they would not only give him back
his body, but restore him, you know, give him that golden body he wanted so badly.
They would give him Nehekar to rule over once again.
They would give him everything he ever wanted if they would just serve him.
Settra does not serve.
Settra rules.
So Settra walked all the way from Egypt to Germany, pretended to help Archeon, killed
a being the size of a mountain, a dragon ogre, and then right as he saw Magash again, he
cut off a bloodthirster's head in one swing that was about to get the drop on Magash,
killed him, he will forgive them until he can kill all four of the Chaos Gods himself,
and then charged into an infinite tide of demons like Doomguy.
He's still perhaps one of the absolute coolest characters in all of Warhammer.
Just slapped so hard.
And while, you know, obviously the planet blew up and we have Age of Sigmar now, it
should be noted, Settra's never once described as dying.
So if you'd like, as I do, you can believe that Settra is still out there like Gatric
was in the warp, cutting his way straight to the Chaos Gods.
They haven't spat him out yet, to be fair.
They wish they could, but you cannot get you can't get rid of Settra that easily.
He's literally imperishable.
He cannot be put down.
Nope.
The Norscan who stole his crown killed him once, except Doomkings are immortal.
They respawn, which is why he then went right back to Norsca and burned down half of it
to get his crown back.
Pretty scary, like, because you're in the middle of the icy waste and then it's like,
is that an army full of skeletons?
Like, yeah.
What are they doing there?
We only have one little village of like full of huts.
Yeah.
We have catapults with skull flying at us.
Yeah.
That's pretty horrific, though.
I think is that all of the Tomb King lords?
I think we're going to mention today, Colin.
Pardon me.
Is that all of the Tomb King lords, I think, for today?
That was if there's anything else you'd like me to talk about.
I of course can, but I figured that was a, you know, it would be a brief overview of
the Tomb Kings and we can go talk about the similarities because obviously quite a few.
Yeah.
So for the next session, we're going to briefly talk about how, again, you can probably guess
the similarities between these two factions is pretty well, they're basically this.
I'm pretty sure to obviously two kings were around.
I think I don't know what decade they were written, but they've been around in quite
early that Warhammer history and Warhammer lore and even on the tables.
I mean, at the time was recording the Tomb Kings have returned and the old world has
returned to tabletop and the Tomb Kings got a new model, I believe, as well, which I think
kind of goes hard.
Lich King and Dragon.
I think it's so cool.
It goes pretty hard.
And I'll see, I think, well, the first thing I was going to mention is particularly that
each of these factions had a moment where they kind of turned into undead because again,
they both were living, breathing beings.
And the similarity is obviously the fact that it's kind of against their will.
A lot of it, I think, obviously the Necrons went through, basically they walked into the
emulation chambers and they emerge outside as the Necrons.
And then for the Tomb Kings themselves, I think, I don't know if you might have said
it before, Conn, there's an interesting tidbit, which is that when the Necron death wave magic
from Nagash went off.
So the people who are still alive in Nehekara, obviously Nehekara looked like crap at that
point.
Yeah, it was once pretty verdant, but by that point it was becoming more and more desiderate
of Nagash.
It got Chicago'd.
Indeed.
But essentially the people there, there's a death wave and then they would have come
back to life immediately.
So when all the Tomb Kings came back to life, their descendants, the still living ones would
have had all their flesh still.
But yeah, but their hearts were still and everything.
There was no circulation.
So over time it was like the desert winds stripped them of their bones.
Yeah, so it was a pretty interesting-
To their bones, not out their bones.
There's a nice difference there in a sense.
But I think the main thing is that in a way, I think the difference between these two different
parts is that the undead of the Necrons, the Necrons are fully gone, as in their souls
and their stuff has been devoured.
And this might be more of a personal opinion, but the Necrons compared to Necrontyr, the
Necrons are just an imprint of all the information of who that person was in life.
That person is very much dead and gone.
So like, Trazin, the Necrontyr, is just like full on dead.
It always makes me wonder though, because like blanks, they're born without a soul,
or a negative soul, it's weird.
Like a negative soul.
Sometimes it makes me think like in Warhammer 40k at least, the soul is like an organ almost
that it can take out, it can still keep going, but obviously not as you once were.
Her soul is like Dark Souls, it's a currency.
Yeah.
There's a weird pivot bit.
Do you know about this Andean Dragon Age, where like, if the mage goes out of control,
they can, they do a process where they basically get rid of their soul almost.
Yeah, they make them tranquil, where they basically completely remove, so they talk
like this, and they're alive, but they basically have no personality, because it's better to
take away everything that makes them themselves, and let them go loose and cause damage and
become abominations where they transform.
Yeah, so there's a nice cool like link, if anyone into Dragon Age, there's a cool link,
I do love Dragon Age.
But I think I do like that there's a slight difference in, you know, the Tomb Kings, like
their souls are definitely intact.
Yeah, at least for the kings themselves.
I do think, but then again, the, those are the sort of the big similarity I see as well
is when the level of like sentience, like a lot in the lower half soldiers, I think they
talk about how, like basic soldiers, they still, there's like some glitters of memory
of their skill.
Yeah, it's like they still have labors, for instance, but like they don't really, it's
like, like a half remembered dream, like they'll just go about making pottery, not because
it's for any purpose, it's just what they did in life.
And it's the only thing they really have left of them.
It's kind of like,
There's a big similarity there, like the Necron warriors are kind of, there's like echoes
of their memories in there, but again, they're just kind of brain dead, like servants a lot
of the time, as well as, but then sort of the ones who live out the noble cast, like
even Cetra, Cetra still has part of his body, like he still has like skin, like it's obviously
like decayed and rotted on him, but to show the level, like the preservation of the noble
class was way better, just like how the Necrons, the like trazin or the lords, they've basically
retained most of their personalities if they're lucky.
But again, like the Necron, for the tomb kings, they pretty much have a sort of a similar
shtick where like the actual tomb of kings and the lords, they definitely still have
like, oh, I remember who I was, but then like Brian over there, you know, it does vary from
different, I think, kingdoms, doesn't it?
Because like you said, like the Kalida one, Kalida's kingdom,
Yes, some of them still have like, they've got a little bit more life left in them, I
guess, some of them are like a little bit, you know, have a little bit more personality,
but obviously, you know, the higher up you go on the totem pole of tomb kings, like the
kings and the princes are going to have most of their minds intact.
I mean, they might have gone insane, but they still have a mind and a soul to be insane
with.
Depends on the quality of the Lich Priest.
He also does that, you know, if you got the bargain brand, you know, Lich Priest from
Wish who was your entombment.
Imagine being a lord like, why did I get the fucking Walmart Lich Priest every year?
God, I was trying to buy myself, you know, a new pyramid next to the guns or something,
so I shouldn't have said that in Walmart.
Another similarity is that they're very prone to infighting.
There's like the civil war between the Necron dynasties and Settro has only woken up because
another tomb kings could get along.
The difference there being that pound for pound, I think the tomb kings have it worse
because like the Necrons were the ones who were like the already dead Necrons weren't
brought to biotransference.
It was the ones who were all alive at the time.
Yeah.
The tomb kings when the Gesh, you know, let loose was all of them.
So not only do you have rival dynasties didn't like each other in life going at it, you have
the same dynasty who now has all of its kings once back alive and they all have a pretty
fair claim to the throne because all of them are the king.
And it's kind of like, well, I'm the king, I should be in charge.
No, I am the king.
I should be in charge.
And like from a fairness standpoint, it's like, where do you, where do you even, how
do you even handle that one?
It'll be like resurrecting all of the kings and queens of England.
And then you go, so which one is legit right now?
The king.
So which one's the king or the queen?
You got me.
Yeah.
So it was a very messy.
Obviously Necrons are more destructive because, you know, sci fi, they can blow up planets,
but like pound for pound, I think the tomb kings have much more vicious in fighting.
Also like tomb kings are even more resistant to death than Necrons.
Like you said earlier, like maybe one out of a million will have a recall failure and
he's gone.
The tomb kings were so screwed over by Nagash, they just can't die.
They will always respond to the point that Setra uses the skulls of tomb kings who pissed
them off as catapult ammunition that self replenishes because it'll always just show
back up via magic back in the catapult.
Because the Lich Priest can just keep bringing them back.
Yeah.
They just go as long as you have the Lich Priest who also can resurrect.
You can keep bringing them back.
Yeah.
And some of them just come back on their own.
Like there's a battle site in Akkara that is two rival tomb king armies that were cursed
by the gods.
They just go at it every single day, nonstop.
They die and then they come back.
And then she falls as well.
They technically had, there's a sort of similarity between, like do you think, I think it would
be really cool if in some like weird universe, like Nagash has technically like become a
Katarn shard in a way in terms of his level of power.
I mean, people are probably more powerful than, actually no, depending on like the scale
of power.
Like I think of the Deceiver, what's the death one called again?
The death nightbringer.
And then you put Nagash next to them.
He could blend in quite handily with like that crew.
And there's also the similarity between the fact of Nagash in the end times eventually
like sort of takes control of all of the tomb kings, takes them away from cetera.
And then he goes into the realm of death.
Eats the god of the dead.
And then so then they can no longer resurrect tomb kings.
I mean, Nagash can.
So he basically becomes sort of mirror to the fact of they were essentially enslaved
to a god who would then have to, who would then use him to go fight another war.
Yeah.
Except there was, there's no breaking out from Nagash, unfortunately.
Yeah.
This just didn't happen.
Yeah.
And then yeah, Nagash become, by age or so.
He just is an outright god now and of death.
So if you die, welcome.
Have fun with Nagash.
You die, maybe fighting him.
And he's like, guess what?
I'm your god now.
Poke, poke, poke.
Yeah.
Another difference is that like the tomb kings, the necroteering, correct me if I'm
mixed, never had any like psycher stuff amongst them.
They were always just pure tech.
Even when they had souls, it was just, no, we got technologies.
No, no magic.
Well, because they see, is it chronomancy?
They have math magic.
Yeah, math.
They have math magic.
The power of science.
Functionally and like on tabletop especially, it's magic.
Yeah.
Just you can't deny it with a psycher.
But it's, the tomb kings did have actual magic.
They did eventually have to learn like how to properly use the winds of magic because
Nagash cut them off from their gods.
Nothing to add to the list of awful things he's done.
Prior to that, they were, their magic was reliant on like the gods intercessing on their
behalf, which fun fact is a cool reference to the real life fact that only by the grace
of God will your tomb king miniatures stay together.
Setcher's mini brings me pain putting that thing together.
It's so cool.
Does he, does he get rules for the tabletop?
I think I was looking up, I think he does actually will be getting rules.
Wow.
Is he the only guy who gets to stick around?
I guess that's fair.
I think there's like a couple other that might be coming back.
I also don't know because the old world just came out.
So I, they could be adding more.
Setcher I believe does have rules.
You do need to obviously get like the book, the book, but I think I did read, I think
he's just under 500 points.
Sheesh.
He's Setcher, man.
He's worth those points.
Yeah.
Especially he's obviously on a chariot as well, isn't he?
So yeah, he's, yeah.
What's his chariot called again?
It's a chariot of the gods.
Cause it can, it can literally ram through formations.
Like there's nothing, it basically ignores any speed bumps.
You throw Setcher at a block of infantry and then you forget about that block of infantry
because it's probably gone.
My favorite part about Setcher is like his crown because isn't the crown is so powerful.
It blunts magic, doesn't it?
Or it reflects magic away from him.
So when Nagash tried to fight him, Nagash is like, the most powerful spell that's ever
been done, flung at him.
He's just like boing.
He's like, funny guy in chariot.
He's like, what?
That's not fair.
Nagash even has a spell that just, like on the tabletop that just kills, just kills you.
Porter-prison.
Nagash didn't have vision.
To grind.
Poor Nagash is watching Mr. Recreating Ben Hur.
They weren't over the film in the corner.
And the guy's like, look at me and my four undead horses.
Dude, I'm on your side of boring prints.
The mortal realms belong to Nagash.
They just haven't figured it out yet.
Just haven't got the memo.
Such is his power.
Such is the power of Nagash.
Grand Alliance death is the only valid one and chaos, but only if you're playing Skaven.
I do hate this man, Nagash is just, I just, I just, I love to hate him.
Nagash is like slightly, it's not really weird though.
Nagash is slightly more likable than Erebus.
I'd say he's infinitely more likable than Erebus because Erebus ruined everything in
a way that's just like, you're just awful.
You suck.
Now Nagash did the same thing, but it's fun when he's doing it.
If everyone's read, no spoilers right now, but if everyone's read the end and the death
volume three, I hate Erebus even more.
Erebus comes back.
No, cause he kills, he kills someone dearly beloved and important at the end and it's
just out of nowhere.
That's right.
The beloved character, Urda.
No, no, this is, you're going to hate this.
I don't know if you know the spoiler column, but you're going to hate this one.
Tell me when we're done.
I don't want to.
It makes me honestly, it makes me so, it makes me hate Erebus, which I meant to do though.
Yeah, I was under making my video in Erebus and I was just, God, I remember at the end
of that guy, it's like, this guy is so smarmy and like just like, yes, I'm so good.
I've done everything right.
Like it's just played out so good.
It's just like, yeah, your face is like got carving marks around the edges where Horace,
he's like an amazing chef who's made an amazing meal, but the only problem is he's made it
out of one of your relatives and just say delicious.
Like, yeah, that's my nam.
Like he's good at what he does and it probably tastes good, but I don't want to taste it.
That's what he does is being awful.
See that's.
Oh, no, you first.
I, you had something.
I was just saying the obvious, I'll just say like another point.
So you want to, you want to finish that.
I was going to say like just the last thing that Nagash and Erebus, the difference is
when Erebus does it, it's this slimy Weasley plan to ruin everything.
And when the gas does it, he's just like, uh, 10,000 skeletons.
Fuck you.
It's like, it's the scale of it.
There's he can be a treacherous weasel, but for the most part, it's like he's a go big
or go home kind of thing.
He's not a lot.
The grass is not lying.
He'll show up.
Tell you I'm going to murder your entire like civilization.
I'll feel and I'll feel amazing doing it.
He's honest about what's coming and what's coming is dead.
And he, yeah, he's just like, thank you.
Yeah.
As a woman says, he's just Nick to that.
The gas just in the gashes everywhere.
She gashes over the setting.
He gets it.
I'll say I'm finished on the last point, which I think is the very obvious link between history
that they're basically ancient Egypt.
If it was not obvious now, just for people who are like listing just on audio, the iconography,
the kind of, well, much more the tomb king, the tomb king of very much like a carbon copy
of everyone here played Rome, Rome, total Rome, total war.
The first one is the two kings play like that.
Just the Sphinx can come alive and beat someone up.
They're part of Rome.
Total war one was that was not called one, but just Rome.
Total war was that the Egyptians in that were like the ancient Egyptians like bronze age.
But then it was of the, what's the start date of Rome?
I think it's like 270 BC.
Yeah, because it's just before the one of the card, the genuine wars.
One of the.
Yeah, it's right before the Punic Wars.
Start punic wars.
I don't think I was right.
You know, I haven't had any Hannibal have we in that?
Yeah.
Because you start out with just the Rome territory, don't you?
That's such a good game.
I played that so much.
God.
Yeah, that's my kind of what you're thinking of.
If anyone here or if we can ever find one person who's played what's it more total war
Troy, not Troy.
That's the recent one that came out.
A pharaoh.
Pharaoh.
That's it.
I don't know how we all like blanked that.
Yeah.
So it's such a sad thing.
Yeah, very sad.
But the ancient Egypt, even in the gods as well, both of them, they're kind of very much
just obsessed with death, even in when they were living.
Although the Necrontyph made for different reasons, but I think the obsession of death
sort of came from Cetra in a way, didn't it?
They already had gods of death.
They already had gods of death and they like death was a sacred thing.
But with him founding the mortuary cult and getting the possibility of immortality out
there, that kicked it into overdrive.
Like, yeah, we are all about death now, mostly because our leaders really want to avoid it.
Yeah, but there's too bad.
They kind of did make the Necron their own thing, luckily, I think.
Yeah.
I think the way I heard it put online once was that the Tomb Kings are ancient Egypt
and the Necrons are the Tomb Kings, but not necessarily just ancient Egypt.
They copy the Tomb Kings, which copy ancient Egypt.
So the Necrons are like a layer removed from ancient Egypt, but they have more than just
ancient Egypt going on.
Does that make sense?
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, it's not a carbon copy of it.
It's a carbon copy.
Yeah.
That's fair.
And then of course, the last great comparison, Settra is cooler than the Silent King.
I'm just gonna say it.
Silent King's got no lore.
Look at him.
But all the fantasy characters are cooler than 40k characters pretty often, I feel like.
Well, to be fair, the rest of the Necron roster is kind of cooler than the rest of the Tomb
King roster.
If you're not, I mean, like, Kalida, who's the other guy who's not the Hotep.
Hotep.
Hotep's a different thing entirely.
I don't think they quite measure up to like Trezin or Imoatech or something like that.
I think they kind of hit a bit harder than...
Again, I think Settra is hard because Settra is kind of in his own realm where Settra also
outshines a lot of the other things just because he's pretty much the height of badass in the
setting.
You can't really get higher.
Tomb Kings don't always have to be human though.
There's a dwarf Tomb King that everyone thinks is a human that was just so blessed by the
gods that the power of their blessing made him short.
People were talking about...
Rupesh VII.
People in the chat talking about their liking Erebus.
Stop.
Someone says, law crimes total war stream?
Possibly.
We could do...
Real, real Border Prince, real.
So real.
He's a real one for that.
Border Prince says, Erebus was brave enough to reach for glory.
Few understood this.
Yeah, but I wish I didn't because his glory sucks.
But Erebus does it because he's self-serving though.
Like Erebus even states in his own things, he thinks he's chosen by the gods and he basically
goes like, oh my god, me?
He's like the prom princess.
Like, oh my god.
And he's kind of doing it for the reward at the end, but the Chaos Gods are definitely
gone.
You've kind of served your purpose now.
Go away.
Yeah, so he deserves everything.
Him and the Gashnans deserve everything that's coming to them.
I think that with that being said, we've covered quite a lot today.
So I think, yeah, thank you guys so much for listening, for watching.
More of Andy's pictures.
I don't know what that meant.
For audio listeners, Andy's drawing some lovely pictures for you all to see.
These are the current ones we had up for the stream.
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It really does help sort of push out a bit more when we get to talk about more interesting
topics.
And if you guys have more topics you want us to cover, we've got quite a few lined up
in the future.
We've got some more tier list ones.
Don't harass us about tier lists epic backbites because it's in the bag.
We know it's coming.
Okay.
So that being said though, thank you Eli and Colin for giving us a huge amount of authority
there.
Thank you quite a lot.
And we'll catch you guys all in the next one.
Peace.
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Take care.
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