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Hello ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Law Crimes.

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We're changing things up,

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we're doing things a little bit differently,

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but we hope you're all doing well.

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And today we're not joined by Eli,

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but I've got Hal and Colin here.

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Welcome, it's Law Crimes, isn't it?

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Hello everyone, how are we doing?

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Yes, I think we did it.

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We made it, right?

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We made it.

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I had it open my PC and then you started talking in here

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and then you started talking on stream

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and then my eardrums started creeping.

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I get confused.

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There is a bit of pain,

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but we are doing something,

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speaking of confusion,

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something that will confuse the senses today.

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Andy, I think we're talking about something

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particularly disgusting and smelly.

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Yeah.

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And I'm not just talking about our podcast skills.

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What are we doing, Andy, today?

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Today we are talking about the Death Guard.

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Ooh, look at that.

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There's a Death Guard in it.

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Shiny.

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Second.

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Yeah, we're gonna be talking about the 14th Legion,

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the Mortarians, lads.

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It's all a bit of fun.

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And yeah, how are we feeling about it?

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I just wanna point out,

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someone who just said, where's our short king?

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Listen.

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Listen, okay.

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The egg took a toll on him.

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If anybody didn't catch it,

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our previous stream had Eli eating an actual raw egg.

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It's worth a listen.

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I don't wanna spoil, no spoilers for that,

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because we're gonna go,

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I think we should go pretty much,

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if you guys are ready.

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Again, that 14th Legion, Death Guard,

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some smelly boys.

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I was ready to go, I think we just,

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I'll say raw dog, raw dog's not a right word.

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I mean, I think it is.

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It's the X-Bars.

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This is not a mass.

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Someone said, return of the poop knife.

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Yes, I'm glad they remember that joke.

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That's a long time joke now.

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There'll be no poop knife on this one.

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What's the ones that they call like,

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I think you've all heard like a horror story of people

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talking about, they're like reusable ones.

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Reusable what?

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Toilet paper, and it freaks me out.

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They were already getting, we don't wanna know.

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Let's stick to Warhammer, what we know.

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It's the reusable toilet paper of Warhammer lore,

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the Death Guard.

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Heading this up will be our good old boy Colin here.

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He's gonna give you guys a little bit of an introduction.

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This is the kind of beginner to expert slash iceberg effect

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of the Death Guard.

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So, you know, we're gonna go through those layers,

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like a disgusting cake.

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This is unfortunately, I was watching that show,

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is it cake earlier?

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This is not cake.

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This is rot.

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So Colin, are you ready?

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I am, but I have, can I have one moment?

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My dogs are running around in my front yard.

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Apologies, gentlemen, but everyone watching,

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but that's not good.

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Colin's gonna go rescue his dogs for a bit.

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If anyone has any questions in the chat, by the way,

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please send them towards us.

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Also, is there any other topics

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that people would like us to see?

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I think we're gonna cover some fantasy

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in the not too distant future.

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So people who have been enjoying our five-side fantasy ones,

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they can have a little bit of a listen on there.

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No, we did not send anyone to Nergal.

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Thank you, Jack Dawes.

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I think Jack Dawes, have you been an early subscriber,

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brother, appreciate the support.

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I think I've seen you on my channel for a long time,

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so appreciate that, man.

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Mortarion is literally the worst Primark.

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That's a big debate.

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I don't think you could say he's the worst Primark.

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Lorgar's the worst Primark, surely.

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He's just a choir boy.

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By measure of Primarks, he is the worst Primark.

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He is an interesting Primark,

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but he is technically like,

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none of them disagree that they could actually wipe

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Mortarion out of existence.

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He's a bit of a wet wipe, to be honest.

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He's easily smudged.

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People are asking about what is the mask.

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The mask is because he has a secret pass

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and he cannot tell us who he works for.

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I'm in witness protection.

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No, all it is is, yeah, like for now,

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I do not want to show my face.

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So I got this from a lovely Etsy shop in Belgium,

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and I thought it would go well with the Remembrance Channel,

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but for now, we're keeping the identity concealed.

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But maybe next year, maybe next year,

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with a particular milestone,

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we might see what's under this disgusting face.

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Made of wood. It's not disgusting.

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Ladies and gentlemen, my apologies.

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Hello, Dorgs. How are the doogs?

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How are the dogs?

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Not running around out front, thankfully.

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That's good.

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Oh, someone's asking, is the vote conflicting?

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No, it's not conflicting.

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You know exactly what you want to pick.

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Choose it, brother.

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Dominic Jackman just put egg.

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Egg. Yes.

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There will be no, we didn't actually get any eggs

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on this stream. I have eggs downstairs, but.

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We're not eating any eggs.

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You'd have to send a lot of money for us to eat.

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Okay, I shouldn't have said that.

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With that being said though, Colin,

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are you ready to begin this sort of disgusting journey?

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I am ready to begin the disgusting journey

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of the Death Guard.

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So, any, without further ado, let's now get into it.

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Yes.

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Death Guard, 14th Legion of Space Marines.

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They, oh, does anyone hear my voice echoing?

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You might have used a second microphone there.

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Apologies for technical difficulties.

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It's our first time doing this.

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Echo can't be changed.

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But again, I should point out,

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the reason we're doing it like this is because we want to

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interact with you guys while we do it, because we think.

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Especially with the live streams we've done recently,

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we love the banter we have with you guys

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and seeing what you're talking about.

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And it's a different dynamic than doing it post-recording.

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So that's kind of why we want to get you guys

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involved a bit more.

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Yeah, sorry, Colin, please continue.

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Oh, no, I'd rather an explanation.

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Also it says echo cancellation is turned off,

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but that's only for me.

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So it's only a problem for me.

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I'll get used to it.

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All right.

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Anyway, Death Guard.

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They're the 14th Legion of the Space Marines,

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created as the rest of the first Space Marines

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by the Emperor On Terra to help them conquer the galaxy.

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They were initially known as the Dusk Raiders,

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for what other reason than they were proficient in attacking

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during the evening, nights getting settled,

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so all the troops are getting ready to go to rest.

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There's only a couple of people on guard.

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That's when the Dusk Raiders would swoop in

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and thoroughly ruin your day.

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Their Primarch was Mortarion, smelly man, extraordinary,

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all around pretty bitter human being.

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was just being super humanly tough,

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even for Space Marine standards.

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I think someone says, now I hear the echo.

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Oh, no.

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Oh, no.

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I think you might have, did you switch microphones possibly?

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Uh, I can make sure.

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You can mute mic while recording,

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but you can't switch mics.

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Thank you for letting us know, by the way, boys.

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Much appreciated.

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We're all working heads out.

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We're working heads out, so just let people know as well,

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the stream will be post-edited,

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so this will look super clean when we're done.

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But for those who are listening to the live edition,

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this will be quite rustic.

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That's okay.

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First time's rough for everything.

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I'll make sure I'm a little bit less loud

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so it doesn't echo quite as much then.

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Where was I?

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Pardon me.

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Their specialty is being tough as nails.

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They're superhumanly tough as a result

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of Mortarian's gene seed,

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and they're especially resistant to things

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like chemical weapons and diseases,

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which is quite ironic, given what's coming up.

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By the time of the heresy,

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they were just under a hundred K Marines.

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So they're not the largest Legion,

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but they're certainly not undermanned.

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Only people like, you know, the ultramarines,

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the sons of Horus, the dark angels before the big,

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oh, that was the Ranged and Zeno side,

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could be counted as bigger as them.

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Pardon me.

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Their training was very intense,

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and Mortarian wanted to make sure they were equipped

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for every possible scenario.

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Although funnily enough, they didn't have,

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unless, Fieldford, correct me if I'm wrong,

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but they did not have assault or devastator squads

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dedicated to fighting.

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But they did have, was a good amount of Terminator armor,

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though, and as Epi-Epi,

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as befitting a Legion known for being tough as hell,

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that's only fitting.

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as well as just general getting in a slog and going through it.

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Mortarian's influence on them wasn't as bad

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as some of the other traitor Legions early on,

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you know, especially compared to Ang'ron,

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who jammed his kids full of nails in their brains.

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Mortarian didn't do anything like that,

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but his decision to join Horus is, of course,

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what would turn the Death Guard into what they would become.

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Some might call that a bad move, in retrospect.

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Some might call joining the forces of hell a bit of an uh-oh.

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It's a bit of a dodgy choice.

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Yeah.

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Just a question for you two, like,

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am I the only one who would, like,

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of all the four Chaos Gods to follow,

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my last option would be Nergal.

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I'd rather be...

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Oh, no, you're dead.

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...Horogod, angry god, or sneaky god.

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Or sneaky god, rather than smelly posgod.

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I think Nergal would be number two for me, honestly.

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Really?

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Well, it's like...

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Okay.

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I mean, you don't feel pain, which is good.

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Well, yeah, there's that.

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And like, Zech, like, even if you do everything he wants,

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he might just decide, yeah, but it would be really funny

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if you were a Chaos Spawn right now.

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Yeah.

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So he turns you into one.

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My naive brain, I just feel like it would be like me

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trying to play the Stanley Parable,

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and then I'm just trying to mess it up.

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He's like, no, but I saw that coming.

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You're not that clever.

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I'm like, oh, sorry, dad.

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You know that, baby.

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Unironically, though, by the way they describe it,

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being a Nergal worshipper is technically the best,

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because even by us looking at it now, we're like, that's gross.

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But as a Nergal worshipper, you're like, oh my god,

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this is the best, I'm having my best day ever.

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And also, you don't feel any pain, you just feel amazing.

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And you're like...

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And also, your god kind of treats you okay.

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He's like the grandfather and stuff.

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I honestly think as much as it pains my Zetian heart,

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it's actually first.

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Technically, you want to be part of Nergal

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because you'd actually be okay.

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You know what I mean?

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You'd be disgusting to all your mates,

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but you'd be all right, I think.

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I'd take Slenesh first, personally.

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Enjoys his weekends, don't you?

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You degenerate.

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Here for a good time, not for a long one.

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But back to the Death Guard, they were pretty competent

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early on in the Horus heresy, especially compared to the menagerie

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of circus clowns that Horus had on his side.

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Again, Ang'ran, Conrad, Gurs.

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Compared to them, Mortarion's like, hey, it's Mortarion.

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Him and his Death Guard are going to go do what's got to get done.

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And that's all I need to say about it.

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As time went on, though, things would turn against them,

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especially when they would try and get the White Scars

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on their side, which is the biggest turning point for them.

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The Magyar, there's, I know, Andy's getting excited.

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I mentioned the Scars.

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The Magyar squads of the White Scars

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were some White Scars who were, we'll talk about them

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at a different time if...

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Oh, definitely.

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Yeah.

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So cool.

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I mean, we've already done our White Scars episode,

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but the second Amazon.

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Oh, yeah.

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Cool.

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Yeah, we've talked about them before and probably will again,

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because even, you know, I'm not the biggest Scars fan,

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but I have to admit, pretty damn cool.

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But for now, all you need to know about them

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is White Scars who are redeeming themselves in death,

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proper Dwarfi.

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And they were doing that by keeping Mortarion away

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from the rest of the Scars who they were buying time to retreat.

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So Mortarion has the eggs on his face.

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He's looking a little bit silly.

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And he gives up and decides it's time

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to go to Terra with the rest of his Death Guard

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when Typhon does a bit of a prank on Mortarion, which

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is killing all of his navigators.

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And now the death...

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Bit of a prank, bro.

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Yeah, bit of a goof.

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I'm getting Typhon's now.

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Bit of a goof.

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Is this a prank?

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Yeah.

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And he tells Mortarion that they were actually secretly loyalists

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who were plotting to drive their fleet

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into a supermassive black hole, if I remember correctly.

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Which is...

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Oh, yeah.

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Would have been a great way to deal with them

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if that was actually true.

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It's also a great news song, but yeah.

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That wasn't true, though.

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Typhon, at this point, was just lying to him.

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But he says, don't worry, Dad.

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I trust all of the psychers and myself, who I'm also a psyker.

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Trust us.

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We'll get us to Terra safely.

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And on the one hand, he didn't technically lie.

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They did eventually reach Terra.

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But on the other hand, the Death Guard were stranded in a warp storm,

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where Nergal also made his move and infected them with the worst of the

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diseases he had to hand, which given he's the god of diseases, a whole lot.

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The stream of bath water.

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Yeah, it smelled like a convention in the...

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Someone did just say, is it like, someone mentioned Asmogold's first shower?

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On the year stream.

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You mean the wash?

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Whatever this guy is.

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I mean, the only thing is, like the thing you just mentioned, Colin,

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could you imagine like a hundred thousand maybe super soldiers?

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And they're all like, buff and nothing.

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And then all of a sudden they're all like spewing out in both ends,

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like, and diarrhea and the plague and the...

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Oh, this isn't good.

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And you're just a morphing person being like, my fingers are disappearing.

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What's going on?

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Help.

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Have you ever played Plague Inc, that little phone game where you

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can spread the...

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I think that's an event you can get.

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Yeah.

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I think they call it like shotgun syndrome or something.

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It's the place you've got to instantly get that little island nation.

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Oh, Madagascar.

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Madagascar, that's the one.

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It's Madagascar, Greenland or Iceland.

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All three of those suck to infect.

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But speaking of infected, the Death Guard, their famed resilience is turning

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against them now because while on the one hand, they're not dying,

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on the other hand, they're in just unending suffering because they have

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every disease ever being pumped into them.

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But because their very DNA makes them resilient, it can't kill them,

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but they're just laying and sitting in agony.

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Except for Typhon, who is now Typhus, who ate a whole bunch of bugs.

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Yeah, that's the destroyer hive, right?

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He basically just ate bugs.

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He became the way he is today.

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I'm paraphrasing a bit what happened, but...

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Kind of.

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He became the weird kid at school who eats bugs and maintains eye contact all the time.

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And Mortarion is also suffering and to end it, he just gives up and embraces Nurgle.

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He embraces the god of decay and pestilence.

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And now the Death Guard have become what they're going to be moving out in 40K.

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The gross, disgusting, bloated, awful Chaos Marines.

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The stinkiest boys in all of the setting.

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Is that...

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Do you have any bit more?

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Or I do have a question for you if you are ready.

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Just a brief like up to modern 40K, nothing too in depth.

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Just jumping up to modern 40K for about 10,000 years, they were, as all Trader Legions, forced

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to exist in the Eye of Terror.

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Theoretically, they remain pretty organized.

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The Emperor's children and the World Eaters just completely disintegrated basically.

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Theoretically, the Death Guard are a bit more organized, but in practice, Mortarion didn't

404
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really...

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Well, for a while, didn't really throw his weight around.

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And Typhus was probably the...

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Was definitely the most active of their champions.

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With his plague fleet, probably...

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I don't think it's ever stated, but I'm gonna go out and say that they probably got the

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highest kill count out of any Trader force.

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Because they would just spread pestilence out of wherever they go.

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Just infect entire worlds.

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Well, because like, Karn, himself has probably killed more than Typhus, but Typhus and his

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fleet and the diseases they spread.

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Karn, that lovable puppy boy hit that one million on the counter.

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I suppose you're limited to how quickly you can swing your gore child or chain axe or

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whatever.

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Whereas with the...

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There's like an episode of Hat.

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A guy that looks like this guy really, he spreads a plague through the astropaths.

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And so they broadcast a virus and it kills loads of people because they're just like,

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the astropaths start the virus and they're like the infection point.

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And it's like, I don't know how that works, but that's horrid.

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I don't want it.

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Evil chaos magic.

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Yes.

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And the most recent stuff they did was the plague wars where Mortarion and Gilliman throw

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down.

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Ultimately, they fail to kill...

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Well, I mean, they do kill him, but then the Emperor goes, nuh-uh, and brings Gilliman

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back.

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Nuh-uh.

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No, he's my special boy.

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You can't kill him.

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Nuh-uh.

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And he's pretty much...

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And of course, Ultramar doesn't fall either because it's Ultramar and the Ultramarines

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are the best.

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Although we do use Iax.

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Iax.

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Rest in peace.

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Not quite Cadia.

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Every day I wake up, my share of a tear for Cadia.

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Suffered enough.

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To be fair, I just want to briefly mention, there was a brief small bit of lore and some

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artwork about the Death Guard fighting Tao and that shadow son, I believe.

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And it's really bizarre because they kind of go, we're fighting Space Marines, but there's

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something wrong with them.

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They're just not right.

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It's something a bit...

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They sting.

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You know what I mean, bro?

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Something's up.

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Something about all the fluids, I guess.

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The fluids.

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The green pus leaking out of them wasn't right.

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Ugh, I don't like that flavour.

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Speaking of, they were threatening to invade the Tao Empire, but that didn't really go

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anywhere.

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They end up fighting some of the remnants of the Fourth Sphere expansion, which was

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already a complete mess for the Tao anyway, so no substantial losses were really given

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to the Tao Empire.

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And other than that, Mortarion got his torso exploded by Kaldor Drago and had a Grandmaster's

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name carved on his heart.

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And there's the basics of the Death Guard.

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They're stinky, they're tanky, they're unpleasant to be around, but they will give you Nergal's

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love anyways.

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They are loved, though.

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They are very much loved.

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For that, though, we're just going to move into a small section here, boys, where if

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you guys want to ask any questions just before we head on into the larger part as well.

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I hate that poll, man.

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That's something.

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I have no idea who put that there.

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It could have been anyone.

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Is it possible to go to the shared screen bit, Andy, just for this small little bit?

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We're going to grill Colin here with just a few, with just a one or two punch question.

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I've got one for the Death Guard, hopefully Colin, if you could answer this one for me.

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Do you think YouTubers who clean carpets could take on the Death Guard?

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What do you think?

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And how many?

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Have you not seen those videos of people who take the most disgusting carpets out there

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and they do the full on rinse and then the hose spray and then they actually power wash

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of it?

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If you've not, people are going to put in the comments and they know exactly what I'm

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talking about.

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The closest I think things can do that is like power wash simulator.

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Basically people who are power wash YouTubers, and that's a better question.

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There is a sub called power washing porn, but it's about how satisfying it is to be

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like, oh, it's so clean.

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And you like you have a grimy wall and you just go and it just cuts through it like butter.

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Visual ASMR kind of thing.

493
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:34,960
Yeah, basically.

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We're just like, look how satisfying that line is.

495
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Oh, it's clean.

496
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Yeah, people put in the chat.

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Seriously, there are there are there's a whole thing of like people who clean carpets and

498
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it's so satisfying because it's just like a tick tock.

499
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It's ASMR.

500
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It's not on YouTube.

501
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I'm not child.

502
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I'm just a web adult.

503
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But it's so it's actually really satisfying.

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I just wonder how many attempts it would take just to clean one plague marine or power wash

505
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it.

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Would you power wash a plague marine?

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I feel like it would be an endless like you clean him and then he's instantly like, I've

508
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,480
got more puffs.

509
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,280
You know, it would just keep keep going.

510
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The only way to clean them is with like melt a weapon.

511
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I agree.

512
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Melted them.

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I think Jack Dawes, he puts the satisfying YouTube videos where people power wash carpets

514
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that should be launched into the sun.

515
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:32,000
No, Jack, I need you on my side, brother, please.

516
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It shouldn't be launched into the sun.

517
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,260
Oh, morning from Australia.

518
00:22:35,260 --> 00:22:36,260
Thank you, Prince Hades.

519
00:22:36,260 --> 00:22:38,000
Good to see you, brother.

520
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,440
Hopefully we're probably ruining your morning here with this kind of thing.

521
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,440
We hope you can see the stream okay, considering it's upside down.

522
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:49,000
What do you mean it's upside down?

523
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,000
Because it's in Australia.

524
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,000
Oh my god.

525
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,840
Oh, damn it.

526
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:57,600
I think the carpet thing would just be little nurglings holding hands.

527
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:58,600
Not quite.

528
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,600
That would be cool, though.

529
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,560
It would take more than 100 times to clean it, I guess.

530
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,680
That's basically my question is the carpet cleaning question.

531
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,720
100 times a day, perhaps, I reckon.

532
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:09,720
Yeah.

533
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:10,720
I wonder if like, if like a whole thing like.

534
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:15,120
I think that's 100 of the power of 100 times to clean them.

535
00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:17,120
That one's probably more accurate.

536
00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:18,120
Yeah.

537
00:23:18,120 --> 00:23:19,120
Power wash.

538
00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:20,120
If you power washed a.

539
00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:21,120
Here's a question.

540
00:23:21,120 --> 00:23:22,320
Here's a good one.

541
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:28,160
How would you reckon the Death Guard would do if they were faced by Mr. Clean himself?

542
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,640
Oh, Mr. Clean would curb stomp them.

543
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:31,840
That's he's Mr. Clean.

544
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:36,240
I'm just imagining the Doom music just going like, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do,

545
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,240
and he just goes.

546
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:42,960
And he just like clean powers everywhere and everyone's like, oh, I'm not smelly anymore.

547
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,760
And then he just instantly decapitates.

548
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:49,360
Do you guys have the crazy, Cillit Bang adverts, where it's like the over the top version of

549
00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:51,480
Cillit Bang hand grenade or something like that?

550
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:52,480
Oh, Peter Serafinovich's.

551
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:53,480
Yeah.

552
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:54,480
Toilet gun.

553
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:55,480
Bang, bang, bang.

554
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:56,480
Toilet clean again.

555
00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,560
Can we just throw that guy at Typhus and just see who emerges?

556
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,840
Like two men into one man leaves.

557
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,440
Fun fact Colin, he is Pate in Dark Souls 2.

558
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:06,440
Ah, good man.

559
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,960
He's a voice actor and he's a comedian and he has an amazing sketch series you can watch

560
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:10,960
on YouTube.

561
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:11,960
I'll send it to you later.

562
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,640
And he was Darth Maul's voice actor.

563
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:15,640
Is he?

564
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:16,640
Is he not?

565
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:17,640
In the first film.

566
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:18,640
Oh, in the first film.

567
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:19,640
Trey Park.

568
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:20,640
Trey Park is Australian.

569
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,120
I met him and he's like, he's not, it's like, it's the thing with sifts.

570
00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:25,600
You get Darth Vader.

571
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:26,600
It's what's his name?

572
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,760
He was from the, from the West country.

573
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:29,760
All right.

574
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:34,240
Oh, the guy who actually played Darth Vader, but then they redubbed his voice.

575
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,760
So Peter Serafinawix did the voice for Darth Maul and he had like a bunch of, there's a

576
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:43,920
video on YouTube of him talking to Richard Herring and he's all like, oh, I got to be

577
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,920
like, I got to do like a good few hours of dialogue.

578
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,960
And then it was like three lines and then he had to pay to go to the premiere of the

579
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,680
film he was in in New York.

580
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:53,680
I think it was.

581
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,280
It's like, oh, I think I've seen that.

582
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:56,280
It's sad.

583
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:57,280
Dirty.

584
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:58,280
Poor Peter.

585
00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,920
He's a good guy because he loves dark souls.

586
00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:00,920
Damn.

587
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,560
I thought they said like, no, they didn't want to have famous people, did they?

588
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,440
And dark souls just because they're like, oh, they're worried it would overshadow them

589
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:08,440
voice actors.

590
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:09,440
Yeah.

591
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,760
But speaking of him, cause he's a lovely pate.

592
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:13,760
Lovely pate.

593
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:14,760
Trust worthy man.

594
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:15,760
Very trustworthy.

595
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,360
I have no idea what you're on about.

596
00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:20,720
He doesn't lie once to you.

597
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,840
Emperors and says they clean by the purifying flames.

598
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:24,840
Absolutely true.

599
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:25,840
Good on you, brother.

600
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaking of though, is everyone here ready for the expert section slash the full Schmeet,

601
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:37,160
shall we say of the death guard law?

602
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,320
The Schmeet of the death guard law.

603
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:41,320
Okay.

604
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,880
Word words.

605
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:50,280
So as we said, this is kind of the morning breath of all legions.

606
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,400
If you guys are ready for your, I'm going to keep saying again, the Schmeet of the lawn.

607
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,280
That will be gifted to you here.

608
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,280
Say horrible things.

609
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,280
You just got to mix them up.

610
00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,840
You can't say the same thing every time.

611
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:00,840
What do you mean?

612
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,840
That's exactly repeat comedy.

613
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:03,840
It's the same joke.

614
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:04,840
And that's how it's funny.

615
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:05,840
Brian of comedy.

616
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:06,840
Come on.

617
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:07,840
Let's do it again.

618
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:13,840
Again, again, poo poo, peeing it out like a very overused other.

619
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,800
Like, no, stop.

620
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,120
An overused other, an overused one.

621
00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaking of overused others, it's time for some creative GW writing here.

622
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:29,560
Because this is, okay, just for preference before we get into this, some of it is inconsistent

623
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,720
because most authors have had a go.

624
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:32,720
This thing's been attacked.

625
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,240
You know, it's been re-gotated and fed, bang, cooked again.

626
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,840
But it's some of it.

627
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:42,480
There's some really good parts of death guard law that we will give it to you now.

628
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:47,560
So the death guard themselves, 14th Legion, as we've said before, smelly boys, they're

629
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,680
kind of known for being corrupted by Nergal, disgusting.

630
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,960
They look horrific.

631
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,200
And their tabletop models are pretty sick.

632
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:56,840
They do.

633
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,080
If you're not particularly like, you know, great at painting and that, you just have

634
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,080
a go at these guys.

635
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,320
You can kind of make, basically you can make anyone like feel you've got a good grasp of

636
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:09,880
painting and their story begins in the 30th millennium.

637
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,320
This is on the world called Barbarous.

638
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:18,800
Now Barbarous is kind of like, if you took the work, think of where you are watching

639
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,600
this from your country and think of the worst city you have there.

640
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,960
And then just make it a hundred times worse.

641
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:31,560
This thing, yeah, I don't want to name specific names because I feel like it is an easy Chicago

642
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:32,560
joke.

643
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,560
Yeah, I'll do it then.

644
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,120
Chicago, the Chicago of all planets for the primal.

645
00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:41,920
I don't know what Chicago accent is.

646
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,440
I don't know how they'd sound, but I don't know.

647
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:45,440
Imagine me.

648
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,200
Imagine Chicago or something.

649
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,540
You don't say Argo.

650
00:27:49,540 --> 00:27:50,540
People say Chicago.

651
00:27:50,540 --> 00:27:51,540
Chicago.

652
00:27:51,540 --> 00:27:59,680
Just watch the music of Chicago and you can do it easy.

653
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:07,140
So Barbarous itself is a very mountainous and craggy, but also toxin ridden planet.

654
00:28:07,140 --> 00:28:09,680
It's horrific to live on.

655
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,200
People who do live there, their life is pretty.

656
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:18,360
It's absolutely sucks because the noxious gases, most of the human inhabitants that

657
00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:24,160
live here, the world itself has kind of regressed technology back to an era where essentially

658
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,520
plowing fields and they kind of have some proto armor, like powered armor.

659
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,840
But again, it's like it's humanity at its worst.

660
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:38,640
The many different crags and high places on Barbarous are all owned by this race called

661
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,100
the Overlords.

662
00:28:40,100 --> 00:28:45,560
And the Overlords, they described as something that was probably human a long time ago, but

663
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:50,440
they made pact with something that was possibly a dark god.

664
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,440
We probably can guess who that is.

665
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,600
And they turn into like twisted undead creatures.

666
00:28:55,600 --> 00:29:02,240
And the Overlords are very much like, as you probably think of what the word Overlord entails,

667
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,360
they are like petty politicians, but they're also a little bit murderous.

668
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,000
So it's a little bit, you know, a little bit of squeeze of lemon on that.

669
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,000
Just like the Necrons.

670
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,000
Basically, yes.

671
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,000
They've got side hobbies.

672
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,000
Murder.

673
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,000
They do.

674
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,000
They do.

675
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,000
They have side hobbies.

676
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:21,080
They build things kind of like a Warhammer fan, except they build them out of dead people.

677
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,640
And that's not typical of Warhammer fans.

678
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,640
I mean, it's recycling, isn't it?

679
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,840
If there's probably one guy is going to put in the chat, like this is exactly what I do.

680
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:29,840
Why you call me out?

681
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,280
Listen, Greg, it's not about you.

682
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:39,040
So the Overlords are like a disgusting undead race, and they very much prey on the normal

683
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,840
humans of this world.

684
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,400
Again, the whole world is full of noxious and poisonous gas.

685
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:45,460
It's even worse at the height.

686
00:29:45,460 --> 00:29:49,400
You think it would sink, but apparently this gas like just floats the top.

687
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,840
So the ones lighter than air depends on the poison you're using.

688
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,800
If it's a Friday night, I guess so.

689
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,720
Yeah, but it's not specified which one.

690
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,000
True, true.

691
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:07,940
And so the worst of these overlords are very cruel and they basically fight petty wars

692
00:30:07,940 --> 00:30:09,440
between each other.

693
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,960
And the worse them live on the highest peaks.

694
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,440
And one of them would eventually it to be battling another one.

695
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,400
He's like having another little petty squabble.

696
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,960
And he would one day hear this crying child in the middle of the toxic mist.

697
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,520
He would hear a crying baby and he thought that's odd.

698
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:30,440
And this is where he would discover the fallen Primarch Mortarion.

699
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,760
And Mortarion had obviously been whisked away from terror at this point.

700
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,960
And when he found Mortarion, he didn't initially go, oh, wow, that's a child.

701
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:38,960
I should help it.

702
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,320
You know, that thing needs protection.

703
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,880
It actually went, oh, that's annoying.

704
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,440
It's like me.

705
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:49,040
Yo, this is he actually kind of did his whole like rub hands together and went, yo, I kind

706
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,880
of it's like pimp my ride with this guy went this.

707
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,100
This was nice.

708
00:30:53,100 --> 00:30:55,200
But this this is cool.

709
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,560
Yeah, it's a proper like, you know, like rub it like that kind of one.

710
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,920
He's like, yo, I'm gonna have me some of that.

711
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:07,960
And yeah, OK, we're taking this the wrong way.

712
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,760
I don't like this hole we're digging.

713
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,040
Change from law crimes to war crimes very quickly.

714
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,160
He would just find this crying child.

715
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,820
And it was particularly weird because, first of all, this is at the layer where most humans

716
00:31:22,820 --> 00:31:23,820
would die.

717
00:31:23,820 --> 00:31:26,840
And it was also being protected by another overlord.

718
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:32,260
So this overlord called Nickare, who basically killed a rival, he thought that seems like

719
00:31:32,260 --> 00:31:34,280
it's a prize that'll be mine.

720
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,880
And he would eventually raise Mortarion up to be a he tried to make him as cruel and

721
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,880
as vindictive as him trying to blacken Mortarion's heart.

722
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,280
He had a very terrible life, that Primark.

723
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:50,600
And even though he grew and he was exceptional, he still was not like broken in a way such

724
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:55,560
as this monster, this almost human undead creature called Nickare.

725
00:31:55,560 --> 00:32:02,640
Until one day when Mortarion, who was often sent out as like a sort of courier boy or

726
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,040
just basically he was thrown out to fight other overlords.

727
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:12,160
I was just imagining a rival, Nickare just going, it was rigged from the start.

728
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,880
Benny, you messed up boy.

729
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:22,320
He was a very glorified delivery boy, except sometimes he would deliver death.

730
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,360
Very much delivering death.

731
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:29,440
He was sent out to fight impossible other malformed creatures created by other overlords.

732
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:34,000
And every time basically Mortarion almost died, Nickare would just loom over him and

733
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,240
go, nice try brother.

734
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:40,080
Something just like, you know, GG gamer sort of a bit.

735
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,080
He was a bit out of touch.

736
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,040
Call an ambulance, but not for me.

737
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,560
Not for you either.

738
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,720
This would eventually breed a lot of resentment and hate in Mortarion.

739
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:55,760
Nickare was also a psycho and, you know, vile sorcerer.

740
00:32:55,760 --> 00:33:00,640
And this would eventually lead to the day where famously Mortarion had had enough.

741
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,840
And as you saw some other humans being brought up to the fortress, they were coughing and

742
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:05,840
spluttering.

743
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:11,520
One of them broke free from the, these flesh golem guards were taking them up to be basically

744
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:18,060
taken to the laboratory to have some quote unquote fun done to them.

745
00:33:18,060 --> 00:33:24,140
And one of them broke free and it was actually near the fortress of Mortarion that this happened.

746
00:33:24,140 --> 00:33:28,320
And he, this other ordinary human, he was using magic and all kinds of things.

747
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,080
This other tried to escape.

748
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,040
Bad touch.

749
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:41,240
And he would try, this ordinary human was breaking free from the golems and he caught

750
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,720
sight of Mortarion and he basically asked for help, help us.

751
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:50,040
And Mortarion for the first time in his life actually made a choice for himself.

752
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:54,840
And so he basically leaps off this fortress and he had this sort of like, call it pepper

753
00:33:54,840 --> 00:34:02,200
box gun and he started firing into these flesh golems and he freed the first human ever from

754
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:03,960
Nickare's sort of grip.

755
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,480
And this human was called Kalas Typhon.

756
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,240
Unfortunately this guy is gonna come up again.

757
00:34:11,240 --> 00:34:16,460
This is a big, big, this is a big sad, sad moment in the chat for this bad boy here because

758
00:34:16,460 --> 00:34:18,400
this guy would ruin everything.

759
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,160
This is the friend you made in uni who you're just like...

760
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,040
He's not quite Erebus but he's not far off.

761
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,600
He's like, oh, I want to punch you almost as hard in the face.

762
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:28,600
Just a little bit less.

763
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:29,600
He's Erebus something.

764
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:30,600
Just a bit less.

765
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,240
I'll punch you in the face and I'll kick Erebus in the nuts.

766
00:34:33,240 --> 00:34:35,480
Like that's the scale we're on right now.

767
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,960
That's the hierarchy.

768
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:43,920
This guy, so they would both kind of, as you do, when you basically commit anarchy and

769
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,920
rebellion they'd run off together holding hands down the mountain.

770
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,520
We're not quite like that.

771
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:49,840
It was a lot cooler.

772
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:55,440
And they would reach the first human village that Mortarion would ever see.

773
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,840
And it's quite a cool moment where Mortarion hears music for the first time and he sees

774
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:06,120
all these normal people living and he kind of goes, damn, I missed out on so much.

775
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,640
You know, he'd never went to college, never had his first party, all that kind of stuff.

776
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,440
Not really.

777
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:18,200
And as they were in this village, Mortarion essentially decides to save the people of

778
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,200
Barbaros.

779
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:25,840
They, like him, had been tortured, enslaved, broken and used as tools and he had had enough.

780
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:31,600
So Mortarion says, I'm going to basically, you know, he's taking control.

781
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,520
He's like, this is a weird reference.

782
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:34,520
I don't know.

783
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,240
In my head I thought, Dana, why he's uniting the UFC?

784
00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:39,240
But it's nowhere near.

785
00:35:39,240 --> 00:35:42,200
Wait, hold on, who's Joe Rogan in this analogy?

786
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,200
Come on.

787
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:44,200
I'm lost.

788
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,800
Joe Rogan is not here yet because this is later.

789
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:47,800
For no reason.

790
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,800
That's not going to work.

791
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,000
No idea why Dana White.

792
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,760
Dana White is not Mortarion, by the way.

793
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:54,760
Maybe he's Malkador.

794
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:55,760
Maybe he's Malkador.

795
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,680
But like, it kind of looks like him to be fair.

796
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:03,200
So Mortarion would join with the people.

797
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:08,760
He'd grab a scythe from, you know, his iconic weapon, essentially from the fields.

798
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,720
And he would start helping the people.

799
00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:14,440
Immediately they basically get attacked by another overlord, one of the petty ones.

800
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,200
And Mortarion kills his first overlord.

801
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,640
And in that sort of moment where all these people who've been afraid of them and they

802
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:26,280
lived in little villages where they kind of had to hide at night from the monster that

803
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:32,160
lived in the smoke that came out, they would actually see him as a symbol of hope.

804
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,680
And that would be the formation of the Death Guard, which their symbol, I believe, is the

805
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:41,280
setting or rising sun with the skull on it, sort of basically showing that death comes

806
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,280
to them every day.

807
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,920
And no, so this is the first proper formation of the Death Guard.

808
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,560
It's actually just a human sort of contingent.

809
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:54,720
They would take their knowledge and training from Mortarion and they'd build like proto

810
00:36:54,720 --> 00:37:00,440
power armor and sort of very rustic things, but things that would help them fight within

811
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,320
the toxic mist, you know, the things that they've been afraid of for so long.

812
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,460
And they would go to battle.

813
00:37:06,460 --> 00:37:11,120
And this would begin the barbarous war, which takes, it's not specified how long this is,

814
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:15,920
but this is like supposedly either like a decade or a few years.

815
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:21,040
There is a through line with every story in Warhammer.

816
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,840
You never know exactly how.

817
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:27,880
I was listening to the first twice dead king book again today and it was like, oh, he's

818
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,520
in prison for several years.

819
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:34,840
I'm like, unless you explicitly mention it, it's really difficult to gauge for a lot of

820
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:39,760
these stories in 40K because again, the stakes are some characters can live for a thousand

821
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:40,760
plus years.

822
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,360
It's like, oh, a hundred years.

823
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,560
Oh, that was quick.

824
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:45,560
One paragraph.

825
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,760
I think it might not have been too long since Kalaas Typhon was still able to be turned

826
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:50,760
to a space marine.

827
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:55,280
At this point, like everyone is really funny because like they start to everyone like falls

828
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,280
in love with Mortarion.

829
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:57,280
Like everyone loves Raymond.

830
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,080
Man, that's going to be an old reference now.

831
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,680
Everyone's like, oh, Mortarion, he's kind of a little bit spooky looking, but they all

832
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:05,680
are on barbarous.

833
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,560
They're all a bit inaciated, but they sort of looked at him as like, oh my God, my savior.

834
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,060
And then they look to their right, their right.

835
00:38:12,060 --> 00:38:16,920
And there's Kalaas Typhon and everyone can see he's kind of half overlord, half human.

836
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,240
So his skin's a little wacky, even more waxy and disgusting.

837
00:38:20,240 --> 00:38:25,320
And everyone, even now, everyone hates him.

838
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:30,880
This is like a really small gripe, but as a man who likes to wear a beard on many occasions,

839
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,880
he's one of the few space marines with a beard and he lets the side down.

840
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,160
So we don't have dwarfs.

841
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,240
That's already an L for us as Warhammer 40k fans.

842
00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:42,240
And he's like, I've got a big beard and I'm a dick.

843
00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:45,960
Oh, this man just breezed right by the leaks of Otan.

844
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,040
Yeah, they're recent.

845
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,800
I mean, like 40k who has a beard.

846
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,760
Like 30k, 30k.

847
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:54,760
Who's got a beard?

848
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:55,880
That's a good point.

849
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:56,880
People will be in the chat.

850
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:57,880
Who has a beard?

851
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:58,880
Does Li-Man have a beard?

852
00:38:58,880 --> 00:38:59,880
That's the only character.

853
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,520
Li-Man doesn't have a beard?

854
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:03,520
Space wolves.

855
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,840
Oh, I was about to say space wolves is like all beard.

856
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,000
Space wolves, yeah.

857
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,280
But then Fafniran and that's everyone.

858
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,320
That's a good point.

859
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:13,960
More beard, more beard for the beard boys.

860
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,960
Although I do like that Imperial Fist captain who has the big mustache.

861
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,560
I'm like, yes, more of that please.

862
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:24,560
In the recent, he's like the Praetorian with the big sword and he's in the trailer for

863
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:25,560
Horus Heresy.

864
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:26,560
Oh yeah.

865
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:27,560
Oh yeah, I know the.

866
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:28,560
Yeah, that guy's mustache was cool.

867
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,400
So the big, what's it called?

868
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:32,400
Not Cyberpunk, the.

869
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:33,400
Handlebar?

870
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,640
Oh, the whisk, like proper whiskey.

871
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:37,640
The big one.

872
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:38,640
Yeah, yeah.

873
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:39,640
That.

874
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:40,640
Damn.

875
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:41,640
The lion also more beard.

876
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:42,640
Oh yeah.

877
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,920
And the lion's bringing up the stand and like, yes, more beards please.

878
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,120
Thank you, Devon Griffin for a good point there.

879
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,560
And so this will begin the barbarous war.

880
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,920
And essentially, because I do love how this is said in the books, because the overlords

881
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,960
are so petty, they can't unite together because they hate each other so much.

882
00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:05,600
They have very much like proper politicians and they're like, listen, I hate you so much,

883
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:06,600
but you're worse.

884
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,920
And like, I was like, I could help, but you're worse.

885
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:14,600
And they sort of, the death guards sort of take them on one by one.

886
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,060
They sort of go into the mist and hunt them down.

887
00:40:18,060 --> 00:40:23,880
And eventually they fight all the way back to only one overlord remaining, which is Nikair

888
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:28,680
Martarian's adoptive foster father slash, you know, tormentor.

889
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:33,280
And this is, yeah, that pretty much the absolute worst of them.

890
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:38,960
And this is when they eventually try, they have to, and Nikair is at the very highest

891
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:39,960
mountain.

892
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:40,960
So this is even tougher.

893
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:45,680
They try and they tried like a first attempt and it goes horribly wrong because there's

894
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,040
just more Taurin who's this hulking mass.

895
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,360
And then it's like ordinary humans going, bro, I can't keep up.

896
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,000
You know, it's like your friend to cycles all the time.

897
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,300
And then someone, they say like, do you want to go for a cycle ride?

898
00:40:56,300 --> 00:41:00,240
And they just give you the worst, like it's a full mountain and you're like, you hate

899
00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:06,720
them by 10 minutes in and Martarian is held back by the normal humans and the basic, the

900
00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:07,720
death guard.

901
00:41:07,720 --> 00:41:13,360
So they go back, have a round two, but this is sort of where they meet the emperor.

902
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,860
I won't go into too much detail because it's more Martarian's story rather than the death

903
00:41:16,860 --> 00:41:17,860
guard.

904
00:41:17,860 --> 00:41:21,920
So essentially it ends up with more Taurin trying again, sort of making a bet with the

905
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:28,040
emperor that he, or maybe not really a bet, but making a deal that if he wins, yeah, if

906
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:32,640
he, if he manages to kill Nikair, the death guard and the people of Barbaras are free

907
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:33,640
from the imperium.

908
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:34,840
They don't have to be in compliance.

909
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:35,840
They're basically fine.

910
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:40,800
They can live life as they want, which more Taurin unfortunately fails and the Empress

911
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,280
to save his life.

912
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:48,760
And this means that the death guard and those of Barbaras are now part of the imperium.

913
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:54,520
So good old Morty here, the trade one very much for another for him.

914
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,520
He's very much, he's not happy because he thinks he failed those people, which he, I

915
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,720
mean, kind of did, let's just be honest.

916
00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:03,160
Um, he kind of absolutely ruined it.

917
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:04,160
You know what I mean?

918
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,160
He messed it up.

919
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,160
Try.

920
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:07,160
Yeah.

921
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:13,320
There is no participation medal in 40 K. Like you tried.

922
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:14,320
It's right.

923
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,240
Look, sometimes your best isn't enough.

924
00:42:17,240 --> 00:42:24,360
We do try our best, but you know, the, um, the 21st century philosophers Lincoln bug,

925
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,760
but in the air, it doesn't even matter.

926
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:32,760
Morty, Morty, Morty, I'm going to walk up to the castle and try to fight Nikair.

927
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,120
Oh, oh, my breath, my lungs.

928
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:36,120
And I'm an ass.

929
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:37,120
I'm an asthmatic.

930
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,600
I'm a carrying asthmatic man.

931
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,520
And I'm going to have a go at Mortarion for having weak lungs.

932
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,040
They give you license cards.

933
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,040
I didn't know that.

934
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:48,040
Damn.

935
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,520
They give you cards and everything.

936
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:50,520
Okay.

937
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:51,520
I know.

938
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,040
Um, but essentially death guard.

939
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:59,160
Now they are part of the imperium and Mortarion himself, he would be gifted as his ascension

940
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:00,480
as a proper Primark.

941
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:06,760
Um, he'd be gifted the dusk Raiders whooptyhoo because the dust Raiders are probably, he

942
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:07,760
doesn't deserve them.

943
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:08,800
Let's be honest.

944
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:15,800
The dust Raiders are a, the 14th Legion that were founded upon terror and they had one

945
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,280
much honors and glory during the great crusade at this point.

946
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,360
Obviously as Colin mentioned earlier, they're kind of renowned for their, how they earned

947
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:28,200
their moniker, which was that they would essentially attack when the light was failing and then

948
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,720
it'll be an all out shock assault.

949
00:43:30,720 --> 00:43:36,800
And many sort of famous, um, legionaries who will mention it a bit, um, are also part of

950
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:37,800
this Legion.

951
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:44,880
They're all from terror as well, but Mortarion as he is gifted Legion, he sort of goes, listen,

952
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,720
I like that dish, but it's not my favorite dish.

953
00:43:47,720 --> 00:43:54,320
He's he wants, he wants that Eastern European, you know, proper hard boiled onion soup, gruel.

954
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,840
He wants it exactly how he wants it.

955
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:02,880
So he begins to mold the Legion into his own sort of image and the way and traditions of

956
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,520
barbarous.

957
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:08,920
So the death guard themselves who are, who at the time were basically just normal humans

958
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:14,180
in power armor fighting undead creatures and mists, the youngest of them slash the ones

959
00:44:14,180 --> 00:44:21,120
who are still of age would then be elevated into Astartes, one such as, um, Vorax as also

960
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:27,080
our friend Typhon again, uh, else for Typhon because he's as disgusting human being and

961
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,520
deserves everything he got.

962
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,280
Beards, a bad name.

963
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:32,280
Yeah.

964
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,240
He, he's a, we, we despise him on law crimes.

965
00:44:35,240 --> 00:44:36,920
It's official statement of law crime.

966
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,520
Um, I definitely think he could be hosed down and cleaned like a carpet.

967
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,400
In my opinion, that's going to keep coming up.

968
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,800
Um, and so Menden would go to the process of becoming space Marines.

969
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:52,680
The dust Raiders themselves will be renamed into the death guard and the original, like

970
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,680
sort of human death guard, you know, the ones that were too old or they had both men and

971
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:02,680
women, they were essentially be left on barbarous to sort of, you know, take care of the planet.

972
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:07,120
And many of the traditions that were born in the death guard were also brought into

973
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,440
the Legion death guards.

974
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:13,680
So they had the traditional, uh, Mottarion after a victory, they would drink a poison

975
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:18,300
chalice, um, to sort of remind themselves that they're basically testing themselves

976
00:45:18,300 --> 00:45:19,600
and life every day.

977
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,320
So they've always challenged themselves.

978
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,280
Um, it's the weirdest tradition to what I was reading about that.

979
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,560
I was like, why, what is the point?

980
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:31,680
It was originally, well, the original version of it was, it was before they made the ascent

981
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,880
on the cares fortress.

982
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,440
And essentially these guys have been basically, has anyone here seen the great escape?

983
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,160
You guys watched the film, the great escape?

984
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,880
Um, well, if I've seen a movie, sorry, I forgot.

985
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,920
The people who are listening, Colin doesn't watch films ever.

986
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,280
No, he just looked at me.

987
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:52,000
The last one I saw was Oppenheimer.

988
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,000
I think.

989
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,000
Can I read recent?

990
00:45:54,000 --> 00:46:00,960
Can I briefly mention a comment that tickled me, um, because of the asthma thing I mentioned,

991
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:06,800
we've got, um, Dan, we go from pancreas, no work to lungs barely work.

992
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:11,800
I think that's my new, I even take lung steroids every day.

993
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,520
Lungs barely, that's my new name.

994
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:14,520
Lungs barely work.

995
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:15,520
Lungs barely work.

996
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,200
What's your, you're going to let them roast you like that.

997
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:19,440
What's your thing?

998
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:20,440
What's my thing?

999
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:21,960
Um, yeah, what's broken with you?

1000
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:22,960
Oh, everything.

1001
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,960
Why do you think we make Warhammer content?

1002
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:30,560
Um, I forgot what I was going to say now.

1003
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:31,560
Uh, where was it?

1004
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:32,560
Oh yeah.

1005
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:37,480
So the actual, the, the poison tradition came about where it's sort of like in the film

1006
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:42,240
it from the great escape where they kind of brew vodka in prison.

1007
00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:47,560
They essentially were brewing up a alcohol and then Mortarion was like, that's pretty

1008
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:48,560
good.

1009
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:49,560
Now give me the raw stuff.

1010
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,160
And they were like, huh?

1011
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,640
And they were like, we're not ready for that.

1012
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:53,640
We're not.

1013
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,920
And then they all had like, the humans had a taste of it and they basically went, they

1014
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,720
basically like couldn't hack it.

1015
00:46:59,720 --> 00:47:03,480
That's kind of where the tradition was born from where they were basically essentially

1016
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,040
drinking poison, like a hundred percent ethanol at that point.

1017
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:12,520
And they were like, we survived, but barely, you know, we did it boys.

1018
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:20,200
And uh, it was like a Persian noble who, uh, kept, uh, he like, he would take, he would

1019
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:24,560
slow like micro dose poison to build up an immunity.

1020
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,260
And then, uh, then when the Romans came and knock and he, uh, tried to poison himself

1021
00:47:28,260 --> 00:47:29,680
to kill himself.

1022
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,120
So the Romans couldn't get them except he built up an immunity to poison.

1023
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:37,120
You didn't do that as well.

1024
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:41,840
I, I, I, I think they tried, I don't know if he did it, but they tried to poison him

1025
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,800
and they shot him and ditched him in the river.

1026
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:49,640
But I feel like he drank little bits of poison gradually so that when he was poisoned, he

1027
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:50,840
didn't die.

1028
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,160
And then they were like, it's a miracle, but really it was like, no, he was preparing for

1029
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:55,160
an assassination attempt.

1030
00:47:55,160 --> 00:48:01,360
I think I know which, uh, which guy you're talking about Colin, but, um, the name escapes

1031
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:02,360
me.

1032
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:03,360
Okay.

1033
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,000
So other traditions on the death guard, like their way of war, their weapons, like the

1034
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:11,800
site that was all essentially made into that, the new death guard.

1035
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,480
So there are four Legion and there are some like notable Legionaries here.

1036
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,080
So there's Nathaniel Garrow.

1037
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,200
Um, this is our main boy.

1038
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:23,800
Nathaniel Garrow is an absolute Chad and we appreciate him greatly.

1039
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,720
I think, uh, Annie did a video on him.

1040
00:48:25,720 --> 00:48:26,720
Not long ago.

1041
00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:27,720
I didn't, too.

1042
00:48:27,720 --> 00:48:28,720
He's a, he's all right.

1043
00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:31,720
Oh no, from his books, he's an actual Chad.

1044
00:48:31,720 --> 00:48:32,720
He's fantastic.

1045
00:48:32,720 --> 00:48:37,120
He's, he's a cool, he's cool.

1046
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,800
And, um, as I thought you mentioned earlier, Calus Typhon, who would eventually become

1047
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:45,960
the first captain and obviously I should mention now also very good friend of Mortarion.

1048
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:47,720
So they actually are friends.

1049
00:48:47,720 --> 00:48:50,280
Mortarion does have friends as much as people think he doesn't.

1050
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:55,160
Um, Kyfer Morag, who was the, I think the equity of Mortarion later.

1051
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:56,160
Yep.

1052
00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:04,760
And Vorax, who would become a future sort of a 40 K, uh, death Lord slash, um, master

1053
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,600
of his own, um, not chapter.

1054
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:07,600
The Lords of Silence.

1055
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:08,600
Yes.

1056
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,880
From the Lords of Silence books, really good books.

1057
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,640
Um, Ignatius Gruegel's also another name that Hasse mentioned.

1058
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,800
The commander of the second company.

1059
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,240
This, this will be, uh, this will be mentioned at it.

1060
00:49:19,240 --> 00:49:22,600
Oh, someone just put, um, Devin Griffith said there was a Chinese emperor that drank mercury.

1061
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,080
No, I wonder how that would go.

1062
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:30,280
Uh, he, I believe he thought it was the, uh, secret to eternal life.

1063
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:34,160
And when his court tried to tell him he's being an idiot, uh, he had them executed.

1064
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,000
And he said, secret to eternal sleep.

1065
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:42,440
Listen, there's not improve, was it adapt, approve, overcome.

1066
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,400
He did get his life in a way.

1067
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:48,120
Cause I remember that story in a way.

1068
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:53,360
Um, so many of the notable legionaries are, or, you know, they're kind of prominent at

1069
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:59,000
this time and then Mortarion is part of the, um, Imperium of Man.

1070
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,040
Death guard is all united with Primarch.

1071
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:05,760
The many recruits from Barbarus are now flooding into the, uh, death guard.

1072
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:10,160
There's no Norterran, uh, recruits and the legion is united.

1073
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:15,680
It's like, you know, big celebration and they think, how do we perfectly celebrate the unification

1074
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,800
of Primarch, legion and tactics?

1075
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,220
Um, they go on a hunt slash war.

1076
00:50:20,220 --> 00:50:22,800
They basically think there's no other way to celebrate.

1077
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:30,360
And this would begin their first ever compliance with the infamous Lords of Galasbar Empire.

1078
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:34,240
Now for people who are listening, they might hear some similarities about the Lords of

1079
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:35,960
Galasbar here.

1080
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:44,680
The Lords of Galasbar was essentially a ruling dynasty, like fascistic empire that had people

1081
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,200
operate, like people below them didn't even have numbers.

1082
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,580
They're just all slave costs.

1083
00:50:49,580 --> 00:50:55,120
And they basically had, when your life was at an end, we're working in horrific factories

1084
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,000
or an army of slave soldiers.

1085
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,000
You basically were turned into protein paste.

1086
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:03,360
And I think you can kind of guess where like that's very reminiscent of, which is mostly

1087
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,960
the modern 40k Imperium.

1088
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,360
Corp starch.

1089
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,240
They are very much turned into tasty treats.

1090
00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:14,560
Um, it was a horrific life and the people that they didn't even have names.

1091
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,080
Most humans didn't have names on the world.

1092
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,600
They just were ruled by the Lords of Galasbar.

1093
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:25,880
That's kind of a weird, um, like or Orwellian dictatorship thing where like they, they propaganda

1094
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:31,360
in these planets constantly blast like 24 seven is horrifically annoying.

1095
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,920
Um, but that's not why they had to be defeated.

1096
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:39,480
Um, because being annoying is not a crime, even though Warhammer, uh, can be like that

1097
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:40,480
sometimes.

1098
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:41,480
I don't know.

1099
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,440
I feel like being annoying should be a crime for certain social media influencers.

1100
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,680
Like arrest that person.

1101
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:47,800
Social crime annoying.

1102
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,200
People who bother me should be put to death.

1103
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,360
That's not a held position of law crimes.

1104
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:58,640
That is in fact, we are not supporting thirds of law crimes currently.

1105
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,440
Two thirds of law crimes wish to execute people.

1106
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:02,440
Okay.

1107
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,720
Um, so I said, so don't be annoying and there's no issue.

1108
00:52:05,720 --> 00:52:08,200
Uh, someone just put, so that's you described.

1109
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,320
So basically sounds like modern day Britain.

1110
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:11,320
Not quite.

1111
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,200
Um, we still, we still have elections, but the rest is all the same.

1112
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:15,200
Do we?

1113
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:16,200
Yeah.

1114
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:20,800
There's one coming up.

1115
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,640
I moved to the UK last year and I, it just seems like, Oh, someone says in charge.

1116
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,280
I'm like, Oh, I didn't have anything to do.

1117
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,840
I mean, our elections are every like five years.

1118
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:30,840
It feels like forever.

1119
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,920
Also, we've had like four prime ministers in five years.

1120
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:38,120
Dude, shout out to that lady who quit after like 30 minutes or whatever.

1121
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,880
She lasted 40 days and it was like a whole thing.

1122
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,680
And then the news about how she, and a lettuce outlasted her.

1123
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:48,400
There's a comedian I know on the circuit who has a bit where he says about like Liz

1124
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:54,560
trust became the first, the, the, the shorter serving committee, uh, shorter time minister

1125
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,200
in the UK.

1126
00:52:56,200 --> 00:53:00,680
And so and so was the second, at least he had the good decency to die.

1127
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,280
It was like, yeah, that, that, that makes sense.

1128
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:05,520
He died while he was serving.

1129
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:10,680
So like he had an excuse, but still, uh, someone says, where's the jacked little fella?

1130
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,120
Eli is not able to make this episode.

1131
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:17,480
Unfortunately, we were talking about a death guard and he refused to be, he could smell

1132
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:18,880
this from a mile away.

1133
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,200
Um, it will be the next one.

1134
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:21,200
Don't worry boys.

1135
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:25,880
Uh, as I was saying though, so the laws of glass bar, basically essentially what the

1136
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,640
modern 40 K imperium would turn out to be.

1137
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:33,800
It was a small pocket empire and they're all much of the imperium was like, how are we

1138
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:34,800
going to do this?

1139
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:39,400
Cause they seem incredibly powerful and more Taurin and death guard bent.

1140
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,120
So they went, that sounds cool.

1141
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:42,760
How about we do it instead of 10 years?

1142
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,120
Let's do it in a day.

1143
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:49,380
So they basically, they basically launched meteors with rockets attached to the back

1144
00:53:49,380 --> 00:53:53,560
at their Capitol and they just hid behind them all the way until they rocketed down

1145
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,880
and they showered them over the planet.

1146
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,920
And essentially we're going straight for the head and they were trying to take off the

1147
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:01,520
laws of glass bar.

1148
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:08,120
And it begins this call of incredibly, uh, like rough and, uh, brutal battle where the

1149
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,360
death guard fight besides more Taurin for the first time.

1150
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:15,560
And they're making their way through this layers of this defense where every time the

1151
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:20,040
book it peaks back to the laws of glass bar, they're basically going, this is impossible.

1152
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,640
This shouldn't happen because it's basically breaking their psyche.

1153
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,000
That's something could challenge them.

1154
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,880
And they eventually do the death guard have a really, there's some cool scenes in this

1155
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,640
book where it shows you their tactics.

1156
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:37,360
So one moment the Gullis bar in like slave armies, like launching towards the death guard

1157
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:41,520
and then suddenly like artilleries of poison clouds just launch upon them and the death

1158
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:46,760
guard has run through their own poison clouds and then just start hacking the soldiers who

1159
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,280
were choking down and more Taurin's like with them.

1160
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:55,720
So it's actually quite a cool story and ACE, it basically ends up with more Taurin capturing

1161
00:54:55,720 --> 00:54:57,380
the law to glass bar.

1162
00:54:57,380 --> 00:54:59,700
He executes them.

1163
00:54:59,700 --> 00:55:05,780
And the reason it was so this one was chosen as more Taurin's like first adventure slash

1164
00:55:05,780 --> 00:55:10,560
first death guard, you know, Legion battle was because he kind of saw many similarities

1165
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,840
between the overlords and the laws of glass bar.

1166
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,720
It's like kind of tyrants and he hated it.

1167
00:55:15,720 --> 00:55:22,080
What Tyra's got a bit of a complex and when they leave, I'm attracted only a year later,

1168
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:23,080
Horus and sanguineous.

1169
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,240
So, you know, his brothers come to him.

1170
00:55:25,240 --> 00:55:28,420
They kind of talk about this is no victory.

1171
00:55:28,420 --> 00:55:34,000
This massive war because more Tyrain technically eliminated the lords of glass bar and like,

1172
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:39,040
oh, he killed the tyrants and the death guard fought well, but they essentially didn't build

1173
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,080
anything to replace it.

1174
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:45,340
I think even sanguineous and Horus say like you cut off one thing with an overwhelming

1175
00:55:45,340 --> 00:55:46,960
power only for one.

1176
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,400
You know, basically an overwhelming power was killed by another overwhelming power.

1177
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,000
You didn't really do anything.

1178
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:53,200
You just replaced it.

1179
00:55:53,200 --> 00:56:00,480
The egg, the egg didn't kill the overlords, unfortunately, but maybe Eli.

1180
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:04,800
And it kind of would show you how the death card operate in a way in which they are very

1181
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:09,520
much Horus perfect describes it as very obviously on the nose, but they are like they are the

1182
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:10,520
reaper's scythe.

1183
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:14,960
I think even Horus comments like you need to be sometimes the one who sows the grain,

1184
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:15,960
not just reap the scythe too.

1185
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,240
You need to build things in their place.

1186
00:56:19,240 --> 00:56:21,080
But that's kind of how the death guard would operate.

1187
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:26,480
So much of the great crusade, they would often be an overwhelming force that would annihilate

1188
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:27,480
enemies.

1189
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:28,480
Oh, yeah, go ahead, Andy.

1190
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:33,200
I would say there's a great quote from Ferris Manus who was like, Oh, there's like no one

1191
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:38,720
I would want to fight less than the death guard because they were like they are just

1192
00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:42,600
ruthless and annoying bastards is something like that.

1193
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,720
He's just like, No, like my Death Guard video.

1194
00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:49,520
I start with the quote from Ferris because it's like there's no one I'd rather not fight

1195
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,800
than the death and no one I'd rather have with me than the death guard because they

1196
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,400
are just difficult to deal with.

1197
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:56,400
They are incredibly rich.

1198
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:57,400
Okay, sorry.

1199
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:01,560
I was just a high praise for Mr. Iron Hands.

1200
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,720
Mr. Iron Hands, for the Iron Hands.

1201
00:57:03,720 --> 00:57:07,000
The legendarily difficult to impress one was like, Yeah, no, thanks.

1202
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:08,000
No, thanks.

1203
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:09,000
I don't want to do that.

1204
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:10,000
I'm good.

1205
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:16,280
Yeah, they they are incredibly resilient than known to endure toxins way beyond other Astartes.

1206
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:20,080
And they are particularly ruthless, although many in the Legion such as the Terrans are

1207
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:24,760
very much not happy with the direction, but they're like, eh, it kind of is what it is.

1208
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,320
We're still building, you know, the Great Crusade slash Imperium of Man.

1209
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:29,320
So it's okay.

1210
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,560
We'll live and we'll make it.

1211
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:32,920
It's all right, boys.

1212
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,680
And this would continue for centuries.

1213
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:40,560
And this would be the Great Crusade, Mortarion and the Death Guard fighting meant they would

1214
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,880
be often sent to the outskirts.

1215
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,640
I guess it's because obviously they weren't really a good symbol for the Imperium.

1216
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,080
So they're kind of sent to fight the more horrific stuff.

1217
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:55,880
This was all kind of building to another event in the Death Guard history, which was the

1218
00:57:55,880 --> 00:58:01,400
Ascension of Horus, the Warmaster would be an event where, you know, the galaxy sort

1219
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:02,440
of Imperium changed.

1220
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:06,720
Now they're all the Emperor's gone back to terror, but the Death Guard themselves, they're

1221
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,640
kind of like, ah, we basically have to impress Horus now.

1222
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,640
And then after this would be the Edict of Nikea.

1223
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,720
The Death Guard themselves don't actually have any psychers within the Legion.

1224
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:20,640
And you're probably thinking this boy might be thinking earlier, isn't that Kalas Typhon

1225
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:25,440
guy who basically Mortarion say, didn't he use some psychic stuff earlier when they escaped

1226
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:26,600
in the care and stuff?

1227
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,240
Yeah, he did.

1228
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,760
He's also a psychic, but it was one of the things that they didn't want to talk about

1229
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,320
it him and Mortarion and even many other psychers within the Legion.

1230
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,800
They were sort of shunted off to Kalas Typhon.

1231
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,600
They're basically like, hush, hush, bro, we don't really want to mention it.

1232
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,280
It's kind of like a shameful secret.

1233
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,800
It'll be like one of the guys saying they did something disgusting in a night out once

1234
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,720
and they just like, don't ever mention it again, please, brothers.

1235
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,320
But it happens.

1236
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:52,320
It happens.

1237
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:53,960
Happens the best for us.

1238
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,920
Sometimes you wake up on a bin and you don't know how.

1239
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,400
Not relatable.

1240
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:06,760
And very much this will build up to the Edict of Nikea, which was a big event in Imperial

1241
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:11,560
history where essentially headed by Mortarion and the Death Guard and the Space Wolves,

1242
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:15,520
they wanted to get rid of all psychers within the legions because they were like, that crap

1243
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,120
is disgusting, my dude.

1244
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,240
That really grinds my gears.

1245
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:20,400
That's just awful.

1246
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:21,400
They hate psychic powers.

1247
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:26,000
The only time they ever see it is basically related to like Nikea and the overlords.

1248
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,140
They were psychers.

1249
00:59:27,140 --> 00:59:28,820
They were tyrants.

1250
00:59:28,820 --> 00:59:34,020
Psychers are used as powerful machine, weapons of war.

1251
00:59:34,020 --> 00:59:35,920
People can't be trusted.

1252
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:40,240
They would succeed though, and poor old Magnus would get himself slapped up silly and they

1253
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:44,040
would lose the right to use psychic powers in the legions.

1254
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:48,720
But then, so then, big L after this.

1255
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:53,480
Someone said you have to have a very high IQ to understand Mortarion.

1256
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,640
Shut up.

1257
00:59:55,640 --> 01:00:00,320
He is the definition of, also something like something on their shoulders, isn't it?

1258
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,920
It's like he's got a chip on his shoulder.

1259
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,040
He's very much the definition of chip on his shoulder.

1260
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:07,680
Did you not get what that was referencing?

1261
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:08,680
No, I didn't.

1262
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,480
I'm just making Morty joke.

1263
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:14,440
Oh, can I show off a piece of artwork?

1264
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:15,440
I'm so lame.

1265
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,240
I just need for a Mortarion and us.

1266
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:19,240
You can share.

1267
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:20,240
Share with the crowd.

1268
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:21,240
There we go.

1269
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:27,120
I don't know what to make of that.

1270
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:28,120
It's beautiful.

1271
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,160
It is beautiful and yet horrific.

1272
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:32,160
Also like the Death God.

1273
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:33,160
Disgustingly beautiful.

1274
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:41,920
For those who are listening only to the audio, switch on the camera.

1275
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:42,920
Watch it now.

1276
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:52,280
But essentially though, so yeah, Death God, big W. They got rid of all psychers now and

1277
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:53,680
they continue the great crusade.

1278
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:59,200
This is when the next kind of event would hit them where Horus, good old Horus Lupercal,

1279
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:05,200
favored son of the emperor would come to them and they'd be horrid say to Mortarion,

1280
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:10,680
I need you bro, because I've got some I'm moving next week and I need you to come help

1281
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:12,680
me move stuff.

1282
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:16,200
Essentially, I think he's murder my dad.

1283
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:17,360
Yeah, by moving.

1284
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:23,120
Can you move this old get off of the old Golden Throne because he's not meant to be there.

1285
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:32,360
But in all seriousness, he says to Mortarion and the Death God essentially that the emperor

1286
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:33,360
is a psycho.

1287
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:34,560
He's lied about the warp.

1288
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:36,400
There are things in there.

1289
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,320
The emperor is going to turn himself into a god.

1290
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,400
The Death God are not in the future.

1291
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:45,600
They're going to be torn down and forgotten like so many other Primarchs.

1292
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:46,600
He's basically going to kill you.

1293
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:51,840
He's going to hand over the Imperium to little old normal humans, weak humans that get ill

1294
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,680
and stuff.

1295
01:01:54,680 --> 01:02:02,000
You can tell Mortarion and the Death God very much a yeah, no, that's not going to happen.

1296
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:03,000
No.

1297
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:08,200
Obviously, Mortarion always having a chip on his shoulder since failing to save his

1298
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:12,920
Death God and his legion or his men on Barbarus from joining the Imperium.

1299
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:13,920
He's always hated the emperor.

1300
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:18,160
So he kind of went, all right, boys, it's Fortnite.

1301
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:23,120
Where are we landing because he's about to land some heavy blows on the Imperium.

1302
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:26,160
This would begin the first act of betrayal.

1303
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:30,360
The kind of opening stages of the massive horrors heresy.

1304
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:34,840
Good old Isfarn III, the sort of not quite the bigger number one, but this is also a

1305
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,840
bit of a spicy dish.

1306
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:43,200
Isfarn III would be where the Death God would purge themselves of all of the legionaries

1307
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:47,160
whose loyalty to the emperor was way too much.

1308
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:49,000
It's a bit too much.

1309
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:52,960
You know, they were like, not happy with that bit to not enough.

1310
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:54,360
See, I like this.

1311
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:55,360
This is this is Mortarion.

1312
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:56,360
But this is better.

1313
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:57,360
And this is emperor.

1314
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,120
They were like, we need to be.

1315
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:02,560
There are no unions in the in the legionaries of studies.

1316
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:07,720
Well, finally, there was one technically called the warrior lodge, which was there was a warrior

1317
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:08,720
lodge.

1318
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:10,120
It's not really a I guess it is a union.

1319
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:11,120
Not really.

1320
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:14,320
Well, I guess it's a union on the side of hell.

1321
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:15,320
Yeah.

1322
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:20,120
So for people listening, the the warrior lodges, the next layer of this, I suppose, of the

1323
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:28,520
warrior lodges were that it was a group sort of started by good old our friend Erebus and

1324
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,720
also helped by a good old typhon here.

1325
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,360
And it was in a way for a legionary to meet within the legion.

1326
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:38,880
And they basically would sort of hang out and they could not have their rank, you know,

1327
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:39,880
get in the way of things.

1328
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,600
It basically was like a nice night with the boys.

1329
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:48,000
But it was a gentleman's club that turned into, oh, we've kind of got some secrets going.

1330
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,160
And also we're spreading some funky ideas.

1331
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:56,000
It's kind of a weird, you know, it was a bit like in celly sort of things will go, you

1332
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,280
know, like that's the kind of vibe I had.

1333
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:02,540
And then this would be this would be the kind of way it went.

1334
01:04:02,540 --> 01:04:03,540
And then it would spread.

1335
01:04:03,540 --> 01:04:04,540
I'll build bros.

1336
01:04:04,540 --> 01:04:05,540
Get an uncle pill bro.

1337
01:04:05,540 --> 01:04:06,540
What are you saying?

1338
01:04:06,540 --> 01:04:07,540
Where's your book?

1339
01:04:07,540 --> 01:04:15,720
And he would this was spread throughout the legions and it was sort of a testing ground

1340
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:17,920
to see who was more emperor.

1341
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:22,400
So who would wish funny enough, most of the most of the Terrans were a little bit more

1342
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:27,640
loyal to the emperor than they were more Tarian who, you know, it was their Primarch, but

1343
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:29,640
they weren't as huge a fan.

1344
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:30,640
It's fun.

1345
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:35,720
Three, the loyalist elements would be sent to the world and essentially be blown up and

1346
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:41,880
hunted down by the death guards, leaving the Legion quote unquote pure.

1347
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:46,760
And they would now be ready to start the proper Horus heresy.

1348
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:50,080
This would then lead on to a good old is fan five, the massacre.

1349
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:55,880
I won't go into too much detail on that because the basic the death guys end up fighting salamanders

1350
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:59,800
and other kinds of things, but they didn't really do much.

1351
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:04,880
And yeah, so after that, it's not really much for the free chat, the free chat, the free

1352
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:08,800
legions that became the least represented in for the free chapters.

1353
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,600
No one cares about except for the salamander.

1354
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:12,600
There wasn't much story progression.

1355
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:16,840
They were just kind of like a force to battle on is on five.

1356
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:21,480
And then it goes, I will say it's I don't think it's it wasn't explicitly stated, but

1357
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,520
I will defend the salamanders here.

1358
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:29,000
It was a the theory that since you know, like fighting chaos, since they're beings made

1359
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:34,880
of emotion, like guns are less effective than like swords and whatnot, because it's like

1360
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:38,120
more personal than just the end of a gun.

1361
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:42,400
So and I think like the theory goes because the salamanders are so good with fire.

1362
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:47,160
It's like the it's a legion of cleansing flames that would be really good at chaos, which

1363
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:50,720
is why they were targeted first.

1364
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:52,440
That's just like I think like a fan theory, though.

1365
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,000
But that was just like, you know, matters.

1366
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:58,600
I'm just a bit bitter that the salamanders had so many books in the Horus heresy series

1367
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:03,680
and none of them are particularly good as like, God damn it.

1368
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:04,680
So much pain.

1369
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:10,240
But speaking of something that isn't a good part of a book, I and he's going to quickly

1370
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:11,840
dip out for a second here.

1371
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:20,880
I will mention, though, which was Prospero Prospero was the homeworld of Magnus and the

1372
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:22,640
Thousand Suns.

1373
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,780
It's kind of looked like a bit of paste right now.

1374
01:06:24,780 --> 01:06:28,520
It was blown up, absolutely destroyed.

1375
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:33,200
And but this is in the wake of this was destroyed by the Space Wolves.

1376
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:37,480
And on Prospero, Mortarion and the Death Guard would confront Jagatai Khan.

1377
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:43,360
And they basically went, yo, bro, you want to, you know, want to join up, hop in, join

1378
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:47,960
us, you know, want to be part of the Tracers Club, because they are very much at this point,

1379
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:51,760
the Death Guard are realizing, oh, man, we're going to destroy the evil emperor, get rid

1380
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:52,760
of all the psychers.

1381
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:56,320
And they looked to their left and to their right and they're going, oh, my God, we're

1382
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:59,280
surrounded by psychers and chaos.

1383
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,120
They saw the world leaders who were going a little bit nuts.

1384
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:05,600
And then they looked over to the word bearers who were summoning demons left, right and

1385
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:06,600
center.

1386
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:12,320
They're like, I think we picked an emperor's children who were huffing people, snorting

1387
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:14,360
people in dust.

1388
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:18,880
And Jagatai at that point, like he had like no real clue what was going on because he

1389
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:19,880
would always know.

1390
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:21,840
No, Jagatai had no idea what was happening.

1391
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:28,400
He just knew things were exploding that probably shouldn't be exploding.

1392
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:35,120
He was surprised to see Mortarion and it was also a calculated plan by Mortarion to he

1393
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:41,040
basically wanted to speak to Jagatai to basically say, I need an ally in this sort of traitor

1394
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:42,040
fight.

1395
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:44,320
And you know, Jagatai, you don't like the emperor too.

1396
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:47,640
And Jagatai went, yeah, but you're worse.

1397
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:54,480
And it would end up with a death guard sort of fighting with the White Scars for a bit.

1398
01:07:54,480 --> 01:08:00,640
And it was sort of rivalry between these two legions that would go on to be problems.

1399
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:06,200
For Mortarion and the death guard next, they would have a small continuous fight in the

1400
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:11,280
Battle of Dwell, which was another thing we'll probably tackle later.

1401
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:19,040
It's like a sort of smaller campaign and also on the world of Moloch, where on Moloch, it

1402
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:26,640
will be the first time that Mortarion would sort of his idea, excuse me, his ideas about

1403
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:32,040
the legion and also this Horus heresy would start to change him.

1404
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:36,440
So Mortarion in secret was starting to learn about sorcery and you're probably going, why

1405
01:08:36,440 --> 01:08:37,440
would he do that?

1406
01:08:37,440 --> 01:08:39,360
The mister hates all sorcery.

1407
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:44,920
His excuse was that his legion and he had previously had interactions with demons, quote

1408
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:46,080
unquote demons.

1409
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:52,360
So he thought, if I can understand demons, just me, not my legion, I'll take the fall

1410
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:53,360
for it.

1411
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:57,220
I'll endure the disgusting things.

1412
01:08:57,220 --> 01:09:02,000
But if I learn about demons, I can better protect myself and the legion from them.

1413
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:06,480
Not realizing that him relying on this weapon and tool would eventually lead him down the

1414
01:09:06,480 --> 01:09:07,480
road to hell.

1415
01:09:07,480 --> 01:09:12,280
I'm just imagining Big E.B. like we do not negotiate with the Emeterium.

1416
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:17,760
Something Ezekiel Abdon said, I think Prospero was one of the coolest looking planets in

1417
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:18,760
30k.

1418
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:24,040
It's really, I mean, they've in the Thousand Suns book, the way it's described as like

1419
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:29,840
a proper utopia and then it makes it extra, it makes it more tragic that when it's blown

1420
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:35,240
up and like all the innocent people are like space wolfed, if you know what I mean.

1421
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:40,960
That the quote unquote most intelligent Primarch turned his brain off for quite some time.

1422
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:41,960
Oh, pain.

1423
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:42,960
It was so pain.

1424
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,960
Someone said looks at Comrade.

1425
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:50,760
Poor old, leave Comrade Curse alone, he's had enough.

1426
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:51,760
He deserves it.

1427
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:54,120
He made statues out of people.

1428
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,960
I think he deserves all of the shit coming towards him.

1429
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:58,800
He did make a meat statue, to be fair.

1430
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:02,680
Yeah, when you make a meat statue, you've lost all right to be upset.

1431
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:06,800
When you've lost a meat, that was the lie, the meat statue.

1432
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:10,080
He's the greenest of all the Primarchs, at least.

1433
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:11,080
The greenest.

1434
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:12,080
Oh, recycling.

1435
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:19,000
Oh, yeah, that's because that's because litter is a crime and he would flay you alive from

1436
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:20,000
that.

1437
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:21,000
Yeah, exactly.

1438
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:22,000
Oh, yeah.

1439
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:27,520
With that, speaking of more crimes, though, Mortarion wouldn't commit his commit his first

1440
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:35,440
crime by summoning the demon slash possessed body of a previous death guard captain called

1441
01:10:35,440 --> 01:10:40,560
Ignatius Gruegel, which had I think it was the Life Eater virus trapped within him, basically

1442
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,120
a Nurgle demon thing.

1443
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:48,280
And the way he would summon this, actually, by he he Mortarion very reluctantly killed

1444
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:54,400
his Death Stroud elite Terminator guard as a sacrifice to bind this demon to his control.

1445
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:59,280
He sees it as like a kind of sacrifice for the Legion to understand this power and bind

1446
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:00,280
it to him.

1447
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:05,640
But he again, like killed seven of his sons and also the Death Stroud, by the way, his

1448
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:06,920
elite Terminator guard.

1449
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:07,920
They don't talk.

1450
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:12,880
So it was like even if one of them survived, he couldn't say anything.

1451
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,840
Way though, he became a loyalist.

1452
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:17,400
What was his name?

1453
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:18,680
Let me just check my phone.

1454
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:22,320
Oh, it's like another kai for his name was Korak.

1455
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:29,600
K-H-O-R-A-K. He became the death guard, as we all know, famously got away.

1456
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:30,600
No, that's fake.

1457
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:31,600
But I don't know.

1458
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,080
He escaped and he was like, I don't agree with this.

1459
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:35,080
And he just escaped.

1460
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:36,360
He's like, oh, I'm a Death Stroud.

1461
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:42,240
And I'm now going to be one of the the the the guys who are like, oh, we're not loyalists

1462
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:43,240
or traitors.

1463
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,680
We're we're in the middle.

1464
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:46,680
We're too.

1465
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:47,680
We're great.

1466
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:48,680
Jedi.

1467
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:54,640
Yeah, someone says the algorithm definitely pushes carpet power washing to me on a daily

1468
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:55,640
basis basis.

1469
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:57,440
Some of the best videos out there.

1470
01:11:57,440 --> 01:11:58,440
Thank you, my dude.

1471
01:11:58,440 --> 01:11:59,440
Appreciate that.

1472
01:11:59,440 --> 01:12:02,040
Listen, I promise is a thing we're going to.

1473
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:03,040
So I'm going to watch this.

1474
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:04,040
We're going to watch the video.

1475
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:05,040
I just don't get it.

1476
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:06,040
We believe you.

1477
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:09,040
We just want to join you in this.

1478
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:10,040
It's ASMR.

1479
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:11,040
I swear you enjoy it.

1480
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:12,040
Everyone.

1481
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:13,040
Everyone's got their niche thing they're into.

1482
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:14,040
True.

1483
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:16,560
We're into World War Hammer fans.

1484
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:17,560
Yeah.

1485
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaking of niche or not really a niche thing.

1486
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:21,800
Good old.

1487
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,960
Oh, I'm going to join a reset the loop.

1488
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:31,480
And we have an hour loop for people who are looking on.

1489
01:12:31,480 --> 01:12:34,080
We have an hour loop of nice background laws.

1490
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:39,920
So if you're wondering, hang on a minute, pretend there's all magic.

1491
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:42,240
I will start again.

1492
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,360
So we begin.

1493
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:46,680
So we continue on with a Moloch.

1494
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:52,760
Moloch is where Mortarion would essentially summon this demon and it would essentially

1495
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:54,280
help them conquer the planet.

1496
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:56,200
Moloch is very well defended by the Imperium.

1497
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:58,560
Lots of night houses on it.

1498
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:00,640
And Mortarion Death Guard would land.

1499
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:05,720
They'd basically be put behind this forest and the Imperial defense is like, nothing

1500
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:07,720
can get through the forest.

1501
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:09,600
How the hell would they ever clear a path?

1502
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:13,800
So Mortarion sent the demon to basically.

1503
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:19,440
I mean, they didn't resurrender yet, but they, Mortarion sent Ignatius Gruegel, the demon

1504
01:13:19,440 --> 01:13:21,960
in like a rhino, like a head of the army.

1505
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:28,040
And it was basically his corruption would clear a path through the forest.

1506
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:35,280
Eventually the Death Guard and Mortarion would see Horus in the planet's capital of Lupicalia.

1507
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:40,200
Horus would famously walk through the warp portal and then emerge seconds later as the

1508
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:46,520
proper War Master Horus corrupted by chaos and as powerful as the Emperor.

1509
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:51,080
Mortarion and the Death Guard kneel because they kind of go, oh my God, that's the scariest

1510
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:52,280
thing I've ever seen.

1511
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:54,480
And also they think that's it.

1512
01:13:54,480 --> 01:13:59,600
In their mind, the way I rationalized it was they go, now that's a guy who's got chaos

1513
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:01,680
and turned it into the perfect tool.

1514
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:04,520
So they kind of go, that's the ideal.

1515
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:09,520
But also it's a very weird moment where you kind of think, why did Mortarion kneel?

1516
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:10,520
He's not really a kneeler.

1517
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:14,320
That's kind of his whole thing is he was against kneeling to the Emperor.

1518
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:17,400
But again, different writers.

1519
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:18,400
But that would be Moloch.

1520
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:22,360
And this was kind of semi early on in the Horus heresy.

1521
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:26,760
And as we get a little bit further in the Horus heresy, it gets worse.

1522
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:27,760
Surprising.

1523
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:32,400
Mortarion would begin to quote unquote experiment with warp stuff.

1524
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:34,640
So he made like weird grenades and things.

1525
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:38,880
Again, a lot of it was kept from the Legion or if they saw parts of it, they kind of didn't

1526
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:40,600
really understand what was going on.

1527
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:43,400
He'd hush them up like, no, don't worry about it.

1528
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:44,400
Don't talk about it.

1529
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:45,520
Don't worry.

1530
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:50,680
And it would, I mean, at some points as well, like Mortarion himself, it says many times

1531
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:55,400
he would do the experiment and then he would smash up the laboratory because he was so

1532
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:58,120
annoyed and disgusted by what he was seeing.

1533
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:04,720
But then eventually his curiosity would come back as maybe I need to investigate.

1534
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:10,560
So this would eventually build up to a battle slash another confrontation with the White

1535
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:11,640
Scars.

1536
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:15,440
The White Scars have been running rings around everyone, but at this point they'd finally

1537
01:15:15,440 --> 01:15:21,960
been sort of curtailed and pushed in a little bit and they've been surrounded.

1538
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:25,000
Mortarion joins up with elements from the Emperor's children.

1539
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:26,000
He looks at them.

1540
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:27,000
They're like, that's disgusting.

1541
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:32,160
Like, my God, that guy has got multicolored nostril hairs.

1542
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:34,880
Like, and this is the weirdest combo.

1543
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:39,480
His skin is all wax and his whole body like formed to look like someone being flayed.

1544
01:15:39,480 --> 01:15:41,160
It's like, it was weird.

1545
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:42,920
It gets funky in Warhammer.

1546
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:49,720
And essentially they agreed to basically take on the Khan and the rest of the White Scars

1547
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:52,520
fleet because they have no escape.

1548
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:55,560
And so Mortarion and the Death Guard pummel towards him.

1549
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:59,420
It's this massive like sort of open naval battle.

1550
01:15:59,420 --> 01:16:03,720
But the only problem is they're all like confident, the Emperor's children, so they race on ahead.

1551
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:05,040
So it's kind of separating.

1552
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:08,480
It's kind of showing you how the traitors, even at this point, the legions can't really

1553
01:16:08,480 --> 01:16:10,040
work together.

1554
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:11,840
They continue to be terrible at cooperation.

1555
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:13,640
They're just like, I'm just doing it myself.

1556
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:14,640
Like you idiots.

1557
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:15,640
Yeah.

1558
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:16,640
Work together.

1559
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:18,640
Nah, it's not my thing.

1560
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:24,280
It's very much like, it reminds me of that joke I heard.

1561
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:27,800
I don't know if I'll tell it correctly, but it reminds me of like the three, no, four

1562
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:31,040
cannibals they applied to work at a job.

1563
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:33,840
And they, the guy hiring manager says, okay, fine.

1564
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:35,680
You can work here as long as you don't eat anyone.

1565
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:37,840
And they're like, oh, of course, no problem, no problem.

1566
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:43,360
And then months go by and eventually the manager says, have you guys seen the janitor?

1567
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:44,680
He's gone missing.

1568
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:46,340
Like we can't find him.

1569
01:16:46,340 --> 01:16:48,440
And then he brings in the four cannibals.

1570
01:16:48,440 --> 01:16:51,920
They're like, no, no, we haven't seen anyone.

1571
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:56,360
The hiring manager goes outside and then the four cannibals go, the turn to one guy and

1572
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:58,280
go, I can't believe you did that.

1573
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:03,040
Listen, we've been eating the CEO's, the HR department, and now you finally eat someone

1574
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:06,200
they're going to miss.

1575
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:12,540
So to condense is like if Colin was an ultra Marine, I was in PO office and we were defending

1576
01:17:12,540 --> 01:17:16,880
so far, I'm just like, a start is together strong.

1577
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:21,600
And that's, that's the lawyer, this ethos, which is dumb.

1578
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,720
But yeah, they were not strong because the elements of the Legion, they just couldn't

1579
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:29,120
really pull their finger out their arse and like put their petty egos aside.

1580
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:30,120
Fine off.

1581
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:33,120
That's a bit of a theme and work together.

1582
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:36,920
Eventually the white scars would open up a portal behind them, basically into the web

1583
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:37,920
way.

1584
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:40,080
It's an absolute, they were not, the tradesmen not expecting it.

1585
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:41,760
It's like, oh crap.

1586
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:43,760
So they rush on ahead.

1587
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:47,260
But Mortar in kind of catches up to a Jagatars flagship.

1588
01:17:47,260 --> 01:17:49,760
He teleports on and there's nothing there.

1589
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:51,660
He's like, it's pretty empty.

1590
01:17:51,660 --> 01:17:53,480
I don't get what's going on.

1591
01:17:53,480 --> 01:17:57,720
And as we said earlier, the saggy on Mazhar, the kind of the death, you know, the, the

1592
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:02,520
marked for dead white scars, all hundred of them just basically jump off the top roof

1593
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:04,840
and they basically go for an RKO sort of thing.

1594
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:06,320
They do the king thing.

1595
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:09,560
They just go for Jagatai and they just run in.

1596
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:10,560
Yeah.

1597
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:11,560
Ah, get them.

1598
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:14,880
And they have, they have no chance because it's Mortar in and his debt, his new desk

1599
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:15,880
route.

1600
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:17,600
Funny enough, he kind of got rid of the old ones.

1601
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:18,600
Wonder where that went.

1602
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:24,720
Um, didn't sweep under the carpet properly, um, but he would eventually confront the saggy

1603
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:26,240
on Mazhar.

1604
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:27,660
They died heroically.

1605
01:18:27,660 --> 01:18:32,520
They basically, and the flagship of the white scars would be sacrificed.

1606
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:33,520
The white scars would get away.

1607
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:34,520
I think.

1608
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:38,240
Am I remembering a bit where I think Mortar is looking down at maybe Shibu or one of the

1609
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:43,960
other white scars and he's like, you've all failed or laughing and he's like, yeah, they're

1610
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:44,960
all there.

1611
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:47,200
It was said more time could all hit them in the death.

1612
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:49,480
God, they could hear them laughing the entire time.

1613
01:18:49,480 --> 01:18:52,480
The white scars, they were like, even when they were just about to die, they're like,

1614
01:18:52,480 --> 01:18:53,480
that's me.

1615
01:18:53,480 --> 01:18:56,480
They're like, it's got something in your nose on your shirt.

1616
01:18:56,480 --> 01:18:58,120
And it's like, it just knows up.

1617
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:02,280
Um, but they were like, got your nose even to the end.

1618
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:07,600
They did a proper got your nose and the worst cause will get away.

1619
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:12,480
The worst guys would get away and the death guard were like, Hey, they're like, Oh God,

1620
01:19:12,480 --> 01:19:14,040
that's embarrassing.

1621
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:17,440
They were already, they were already the only one Legion who is not fully corrupted at this

1622
01:19:17,440 --> 01:19:18,440
point.

1623
01:19:18,440 --> 01:19:21,240
So they kind of like the way they were looking like outsiders to the rest of the pit, the

1624
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:23,840
group, shall we say.

1625
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:29,520
And then this would sort of be the mid Horus heresy towards the end of the Horus heresy.

1626
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:32,080
They just been conquering planet after planet.

1627
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:33,640
They've been separate from all the other Legions.

1628
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:36,360
They just, everyone's been on their own kind of doing their own thing.

1629
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:37,360
You know what I mean?

1630
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:39,760
Everyone's gone to university or college and they've kind of changed.

1631
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:41,520
Someone's got a new hairstyle or whatever.

1632
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:43,240
They will come back different.

1633
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:48,040
And this would be where they would get the call and sent you Horus is going it's time

1634
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:49,040
dude.

1635
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:52,320
So everyone puts down that, you know, it's, it's basically the boys are back in town.

1636
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:57,040
It's time to get the gang back together for the push on terror.

1637
01:19:57,040 --> 01:20:04,640
And the Legion itself would reform and someone would appear who Mortarin hadn't seen in ages.

1638
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:07,240
He'd been trying to call him for like forever.

1639
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:08,760
This guy just wouldn't pick up his calls.

1640
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:09,760
He's kind of getting a bit annoyed.

1641
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:12,960
And this was good old callous Typhon.

1642
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:18,800
Typhon himself had basically been ignoring Mortarin for the entire Horus heresy and basically

1643
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:23,320
been doing his own thing with his own section of the Legion and all these little other parts

1644
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:26,280
of the Legion would re-knit together.

1645
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:36,600
And I believe Typhon would ask Mortarin to, Hey, come aboard my ship, the Terminus Est,

1646
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:40,840
and we'll go into the warp slash meet Horus as a sign of unity.

1647
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:42,840
You know, trust me bro.

1648
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:44,320
That ship, there's no worries.

1649
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:45,320
Don't mind the smell.

1650
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:46,320
What, what gurgling?

1651
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:47,320
I'm not gurgling.

1652
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:48,320
I'm not making any noise.

1653
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:49,320
Oh yeah.

1654
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:53,880
And like, I'm gonna hear like fly noises and he's like Typhon looks a little bit weird.

1655
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:55,520
He looks a little bit ill.

1656
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:56,520
He's looking at it.

1657
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:57,520
Yeah.

1658
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:03,160
And someone said, is it MAS 20 says Morty deserves redemption.

1659
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:04,720
No, he doesn't.

1660
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:05,720
He's not.

1661
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:08,680
He can't redeem someone who doesn't think they've ever done anything wrong.

1662
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:11,680
Burn the moth man with a giant thing that they fly into.

1663
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:13,160
Yeah, that blue thing.

1664
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:16,360
I mean, compared to some of the other traders, he deserves it.

1665
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:17,360
Oh yeah.

1666
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:20,720
I mean, surely the, the thing, you know, that, uh, is it the Pixar?

1667
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:24,480
Is it bugs life was just like, buddy, don't go into the light.

1668
01:21:24,480 --> 01:21:26,480
Like I can't help it.

1669
01:21:26,480 --> 01:21:31,560
And that should just be more Tarian and like some device.

1670
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:34,320
Uh, yeah, but Mortar in himself.

1671
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:41,040
So, so it was a bit of a mess with Typhon here clearly, but he saw stop and he's like,

1672
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:44,320
you guys, you know, you've been ignoring me for like literally seven years.

1673
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:46,120
He's like, no problem, bro.

1674
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:47,120
It's all good.

1675
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:48,120
So good.

1676
01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:49,120
So he kind of swallows it.

1677
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:51,720
It's kind of that friend who comes to my pings, bro.

1678
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:53,920
He's kind of like that friend who constantly gets let down.

1679
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:56,640
So he's very much a, like, he's like used to it.

1680
01:21:56,640 --> 01:22:03,560
I'm really dogging on this, but, um, the Legion is whole again and, uh, what Taran joins Typhon

1681
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:08,320
on his ship and they all get the, they hold hands and they basically enter the walk together

1682
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:10,080
and go to meet Horus.

1683
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:11,720
But it goes wrong immediately.

1684
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:18,320
Um, some big energy shock waves are going across the fleet and then people like, again,

1685
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:23,920
there's like, as, um, Colin mentioned earlier, uh, Typhon says, ah, there's been a plot.

1686
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:26,080
I'll find out what happens.

1687
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:31,960
And so he goes, searches over the fleet and he brings, um, Mortar and all of the, um,

1688
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:36,680
navigators for people who are listening, navigators, the ones who help them get through the walk

1689
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:43,320
and they basically sort of navigate the ties, the immaterium and hell itself.

1690
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:47,160
And Typhon executes them immediately without trial or anything like that.

1691
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:52,000
And Mortar even gets close, he grabs him by his gorget lifts him up like a naughty child

1692
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:54,000
and like, what are you doing?

1693
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:59,120
And then essentially Typhon says, see, they were going to launch us into a sun.

1694
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:00,120
They're all traitors.

1695
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:03,000
Me and the psychers of the Legion, we can guide the ships.

1696
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:04,000
It's fine.

1697
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:07,040
But obviously they're very much like, we don't really use the psychers.

1698
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:14,640
That's like kind of the weird kids, but the icky boy and, um, they, it more times like,

1699
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:18,480
well, we have no choice now and things start to go wrong.

1700
01:23:18,480 --> 01:23:24,760
People start to get sick on the ships and Mortar and finds, I think it's Zuriak, a

1701
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:26,640
Legionary gets sick.

1702
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:29,880
So the death guard, like, and then he even tries to kill Zuriak.

1703
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:35,560
He like stabs him in the chest cause Zuriak is literally, um, rioting with every disease

1704
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:36,560
known imaginable.

1705
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:39,880
It's just a bit where the dreadnought is all like, our brother is sick.

1706
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:40,880
We need to tend to him.

1707
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:41,880
And he's like chatting to him.

1708
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:44,080
And then all of a sudden he starts getting sick and he's a dreadnought.

1709
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:45,800
He's like, well, I'm in this thing.

1710
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:46,800
I'm not going to get sick.

1711
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:48,680
He's like, Oh no, Oh no.

1712
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:52,280
It's like, Oh God.

1713
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:53,840
And Mortar goes, fine.

1714
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:55,920
I'll put him out of his misery.

1715
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:57,960
I'll kill this guy.

1716
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:01,600
Stab him through the chest only for the guy to wake up, pull the knife out.

1717
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:02,600
And it's all rusted.

1718
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:06,080
And then basically got like, ah, like mewling at him crying.

1719
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:11,040
And then Mortarians like basically walks away, like we'll find a solution.

1720
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:13,400
But in his mind he's going, Oh shit, oh shit.

1721
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:14,960
He's like basically losing it.

1722
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,800
Cause in his mind he's like, the death guard don't get sick.

1723
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:18,800
This is impossible.

1724
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:24,120
Essentially the entire death guard Legion now, they're all getting sick and they're

1725
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:27,680
all starting to, even Mortarians have like boils and he feels like the battle in his

1726
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:33,640
bloodstream even says, and he's at this point, his suspicion of Typhon and like what's been

1727
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:36,040
going on so far is just reached breaking point.

1728
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:42,160
And so he goes to confront Typhon only for Typhon to turn around and basically appear

1729
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:46,240
out of the dark in the navigator chambers, like all bloated and disgusting.

1730
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:48,380
And they say, go, what do you mean?

1731
01:24:48,380 --> 01:24:50,360
This is what we were always meant to do.

1732
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:52,080
And Mortarians like, what do you mean?

1733
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:53,080
Always meant to do.

1734
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:56,240
Like, this is the path of the grandfather.

1735
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:59,280
And then Mortarians like, Oh crap, this is bad.

1736
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:01,200
Get us out of the warp now.

1737
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:03,000
And then he beat him in his death shroud.

1738
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:08,520
They rush Typhon and his grave wardens, which are essentially his guards.

1739
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:12,680
And Mortarians surprised by like how much strength Typhon has.

1740
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:16,040
Like he's just a, they never actually fought each other and they've been best, they've

1741
01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:20,320
not been essentially best mates for a long time, but their friendship kind of dies in

1742
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:21,320
that moment.

1743
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:24,480
And Mortarians like, that's a friendship right there.

1744
01:25:24,480 --> 01:25:28,720
Yeah, when your friend like completely submits you to the forces of hell and you weren't

1745
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:29,720
even willing.

1746
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:30,720
Hang on a minute.

1747
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:32,360
You gave me the pox.

1748
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:33,360
We're not friends anymore.

1749
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:37,920
When your friend gives you small pox, it's a bit controversial.

1750
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:44,640
And so Mortarian was fighting Typhon and Mortarians like, I should have killed him by now.

1751
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:46,200
This is a bit tough.

1752
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:49,040
Eventually does impale him only for him to just wake up again.

1753
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:53,240
Like, you know, basically call the ambulance, but not for me essentially.

1754
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:56,320
And Typhon wakes up again.

1755
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:57,840
Mortarians like, I don't know how to fight this.

1756
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:00,600
Everyone around me is like dying in this disease everywhere.

1757
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:05,480
So Mortarian unleashes a weapon he hasn't wanted to touch for a long time.

1758
01:26:05,480 --> 01:26:09,880
He sends out the good old demon Ignatius Grulgur, the one that he used on Moloch to like, you

1759
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:12,480
know, carve out that planet for them.

1760
01:26:12,480 --> 01:26:15,000
He basically goes, you know, get him boy.

1761
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:17,360
And Ignatius does exactly what he wants.

1762
01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:18,360
He does.

1763
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:19,960
He kills Kalas Typhon in front of him.

1764
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:22,600
Mortarians like, Oh, thank God.

1765
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:29,560
Only for Kalas Typhon to essentially rise again as Typhus, reborn as the herald of Nurgle

1766
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:33,720
and as he's basically a corrupted demon sort of thing.

1767
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:36,640
And Mortarians like, Oh, he's like, this is the worst day ever.

1768
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:38,600
Literally, my sons are dying.

1769
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:40,600
The only thing I care about are my sons.

1770
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:44,920
That's the only thing I have is my death guard and they're dying and only for them for him

1771
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:48,360
to turn around and then he sees a god.

1772
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:50,800
He sees Nurgle.

1773
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:55,560
And it gets, it gets really weird here where essentially time, like the whole death guard

1774
01:26:55,560 --> 01:27:00,560
legion fleet is stuck in the embrace of Nurgle's like personal attention and they're all like

1775
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:02,720
suffering and dying.

1776
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:08,320
Time itself starts to overlay and flux in the warp where Mortarians are to see the point

1777
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:14,480
of when he failed to kill N'Kerr and the emperor offering, you know, to him offering his legions

1778
01:27:14,480 --> 01:27:15,600
to the emperor.

1779
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:22,600
And it all overlaps with the present of when he's sort of made to kneel by Nurgle and

1780
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:27,280
Mortarians has to echo the words he had said then and now, which was that he wanted to

1781
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:28,280
endure.

1782
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:31,160
He was willing to do anything to save his sons.

1783
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:36,920
And so then with his oath given in blood, he starts to transform and he sprouts like,

1784
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:43,040
you know, wings and these body bulges and convulses and it's, you know, passes everywhere.

1785
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:46,720
Thanks to all the death guard legionaries, they are all healed from their sickness and

1786
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:51,320
they feel pretty good, but they are all turned into the horrific plague Marines that you

1787
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:52,920
know and love today.

1788
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:57,640
And it's a pretty, I mean, the transformation is described as very much like they are just

1789
01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:04,320
like things just bulge out of them, like insects ripple over them and it's disgusting and horrific

1790
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:06,120
and sticky, a bit sticky.

1791
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:07,120
Yeah.

1792
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:08,120
I mean, obviously we don't want to get into it.

1793
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:09,120
So obviously it's,

1794
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:10,120
His expression was priceless.

1795
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:13,760
We're not going to get into it, but let's just say liquids were involved.

1796
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:17,520
Obviously we've been watching Colin there for a while and just going, it's a sticky

1797
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:18,520
word.

1798
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:19,520
As this is perfect.

1799
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:26,280
I don't know why the sticky description is what drove it over the edge for you, but

1800
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:29,120
for some reason that was like the straw that broke the camel's back.

1801
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:30,120
I think,

1802
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:31,120
Gross and moist.

1803
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:32,120
Oh God.

1804
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:33,120
I think Jack Dawes,

1805
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:35,280
You did it again, brother.

1806
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:39,280
Jack Dawes put, when your bro gives you aids, it's very much the same.

1807
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:42,600
Just a prank, bro.

1808
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:46,040
It's just a prank, bro.

1809
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:48,040
Just a goof.

1810
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:50,240
What do you mean?

1811
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:52,120
Why, why are you not laughing?

1812
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:54,080
It's just a bubonic plague.

1813
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,160
I don't know what the big deal is.

1814
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:59,920
When you can't be bonic with your homies, are you even homies?

1815
01:28:59,920 --> 01:29:01,320
That's a real question.

1816
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:05,120
And the Legion at this point is now corrupted by Nergal.

1817
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:10,240
All of them kind of, they don't really understand what Nergal is, but they just, they sort of

1818
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:12,280
learn to like their new form.

1819
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:16,320
They are stronger, more enduring than they ever have been before.

1820
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:21,920
And the ones that kind of resist like Mortarion in his soul, they actually feel the pain,

1821
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:26,800
but the ones that very much submit to the corruption, they're like, oh, I'm so happy.

1822
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:27,800
This is amazing.

1823
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:29,760
I love it.

1824
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:32,560
The Legion would then go on to emerge with horror.

1825
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:35,760
You know, they'd like emerge in front of Horus, like, oh, the Death Guard are here.

1826
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:36,920
Oh my God.

1827
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:37,920
What is that smell?

1828
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:44,360
Oh, that bit where Mortarion goes on the vengeful spirit and like Horus is keeping it together.

1829
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:48,560
Abaddon is barely keeping it and everyone else is just vomiting, they're like, he smells

1830
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:49,560
it.

1831
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:54,640
Everyone starts immediately like, like someone just blew up the room.

1832
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:58,400
Malogor is just like, and he's just everywhere on the floor.

1833
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:01,520
No one wants to be cast sitting next to them in the middle of meetings.

1834
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:06,280
The thing is, it's like, as soon as he enters the chamber, it's a big, you know, like 40k

1835
01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:07,280
architecture, it's massive.

1836
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:08,280
Oh, they're massive.

1837
01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:13,560
As soon as he doors, it's like, and then like Horus is like, and Abaddon's like, and everyone

1838
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:15,320
else is just vomiting furious.

1839
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:20,320
It's very much being stuck in an airplane with someone who was ruining the toilet.

1840
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:22,720
It was horrific to be in their presence.

1841
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:28,520
They are, literally the word disgusting, resilient is the best way to, perfect way to encapsulate

1842
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:29,520
them.

1843
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:35,680
And, I just would like, so like, obviously, you know, they didn't, they didn't realize,

1844
01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:37,320
you know, the stench until the doors open.

1845
01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:42,120
And then it was like, oh my God, but like, imagine the guards outside the door were just

1846
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:45,080
standing there like 15 minutes straight.

1847
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:46,480
What is that horrible smell?

1848
01:30:46,480 --> 01:30:49,160
And the death guard walks in.

1849
01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:50,160
Literal suet.

1850
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:56,680
I feel sorry for the Labour service who have to like mop up all the sons of Horus vomit

1851
01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:58,960
like, thank you, they don't pay me enough.

1852
01:30:58,960 --> 01:30:59,960
They don't pay me.

1853
01:30:59,960 --> 01:31:00,960
I'm indentured.

1854
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:02,640
Oh, this is terrible.

1855
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:10,360
Thank you, Devin Griffin for the average magic, the gathering convention.

1856
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:11,640
What book is that meeting in again?

1857
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:16,240
That's the very end of the buried dagger, which is the last book.

1858
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:20,520
There's a lot of nice air and stuff in it, but someone said the airplane shit in the

1859
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:21,680
news recently.

1860
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:25,680
There was that there was a flight turned around because someone had ruined the aisle.

1861
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:29,040
Didn't they?

1862
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:30,800
That's enough detail for that one.

1863
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:33,800
But the death guard are here.

1864
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:34,800
They stink.

1865
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:36,680
They smell so bad.

1866
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:40,440
And they are ready to ruin the emperor's day.

1867
01:31:40,440 --> 01:31:44,440
And from their perspective, they it's like, they want to take the emperor of the golden

1868
01:31:44,440 --> 01:31:46,760
throne more trying to want to all his secrets.

1869
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:48,480
He doesn't care anymore.

1870
01:31:48,480 --> 01:31:50,840
He wants all the things denied to him.

1871
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:58,040
And the death guard also want to usurp the emperor and maybe even appease the good old

1872
01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:00,800
grandfather Nurgle, because why not?

1873
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:04,720
And with the seizure of terror, they would be given the honor that they would promise

1874
01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:08,800
to them long ago, which was they'd be the first to land upon terror.

1875
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:11,740
They'd fight in many battles here.

1876
01:32:11,740 --> 01:32:18,080
They would obviously be party to some of the joint operations with Pertorabo.

1877
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:25,320
And they would also famously there'll be the duel between Nathaniel Garrow and Mortarion.

1878
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:28,560
I don't want to get too much detail of that just because that's their personal stories.

1879
01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:32,960
And so we want to cover that probably in their own videos at some point.

1880
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:38,600
And there'll be a duel between those old death guard Nathaniel Garrow and what will be what

1881
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:43,280
they became, which is Mortarion and the death guard in the modern ones.

1882
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:47,200
The next part of the seizure of terror for them would be that just then being on the

1883
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:53,280
planet, by the way, also spread a sort of sense of dread and would drain people to the

1884
01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:58,240
point that the defenders were almost giving up.

1885
01:32:58,240 --> 01:33:03,000
And this is when we had the famous Sally from the White Scars who would try and kick Mortarion

1886
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:05,780
and the death guard out of the spaceport.

1887
01:33:05,780 --> 01:33:10,400
And a slight part to mention here, the death guard at this point are starting to fracture

1888
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:14,120
where Andy's enjoying the any mention of White Scars.

1889
01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:16,000
Yeah, I'm having fun.

1890
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:22,720
And the death guard themselves are fracturing at this point because there's a clear line

1891
01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:27,760
between those who believe that Typhus is now the leader of the death guard and those who

1892
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:28,760
believe it's Mortarion.

1893
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:34,280
Obviously, Mortarion is their Primarch, but Typhus is the herald of Nurgle.

1894
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:38,040
And Typhus is the one who brought them into Nurgle's embrace, where the Mortarion is like,

1895
01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:39,600
actually, it was my decision in the end.

1896
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:40,600
Thank you very much.

1897
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:41,600
Excuse me.

1898
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:44,520
And there's some combativeness between them.

1899
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:48,120
Typhus is off somewhere, not helping.

1900
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:52,760
But the White Scars do Sally out and there's like a massive battle between them in the

1901
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:57,800
spaceport, multiple layers of like, essentially, there's a cool point where it's like the White

1902
01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:01,760
Scars have to fight in twos to take down a single death guard because they're so like

1903
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:03,640
bloated and huge.

1904
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:08,120
So like basically two White Scars having to like basically clog one death guard and a

1905
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:10,520
legion of tanks as well with the White Scars.

1906
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:13,520
It's a very cool scene from the book.

1907
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:17,320
Basically, Mortarion and Jagatai Kahn do fight.

1908
01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:19,360
Mortarion completely outmatches him for most of it.

1909
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:22,040
He's just kind of smashing him.

1910
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:28,800
But Jagatai Kahn is playing on his insecurities and his sort of flaws in his personality.

1911
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:34,520
He mentions at one point, I should have fought the true Legion Master, Kalas Typhon, and

1912
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:36,640
Mortarion just loses it.

1913
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:40,640
And he basically impales Jagatai, but then Jagatai just pulls himself down the blade

1914
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:46,560
and basically snaps off Mortarion's neck because he got sloppy and Mortarion is banished back

1915
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:47,560
into the war.

1916
01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:48,560
That's a cool neck he got there.

1917
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:50,560
Be ashamed if you were to lose it.

1918
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:52,440
That's a nice neck he got there.

1919
01:34:52,440 --> 01:34:56,600
Don't think I can see it because it's all blubbery and disgusting, but he's very much

1920
01:34:56,600 --> 01:34:58,200
I think like literally white.

1921
01:34:58,200 --> 01:35:01,520
It's like he slashes his dowel across and it explodes in black blood.

1922
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:03,040
It's disgusting.

1923
01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:06,480
And the death guard themselves, they feel like Mortarion leave.

1924
01:35:06,480 --> 01:35:11,960
Basically, he leaves the material universe like, oh crap.

1925
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:15,640
And it would actually sort of represent the point where the death guard like splinters

1926
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:19,120
into different bands and chaos war bands.

1927
01:35:19,120 --> 01:35:23,200
Eventually Typhus would sort of go, hey, I'm still on terror.

1928
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:26,800
Funny that Mortarion was all alone and got banished.

1929
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:27,800
That's crazy.

1930
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:28,800
I guess I'll have to lead.

1931
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:31,640
You know, what a wild ride.

1932
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:34,520
You know, crazy bro.

1933
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:38,520
This would eventually lead to the end of the Siege of Terror where they would like all

1934
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:45,360
the legions where Horus would fail and die and they'd be pushed into the Eye of Terror.

1935
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:51,800
They'd be, I find that Mortarion obviously awakens as a demon Primarch now within the

1936
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:53,840
warp and he's basically gone.

1937
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:58,280
The loudest fuck you could ever scream like, ah, like he just yelled because he's like,

1938
01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:00,240
I can't get back in the material universe.

1939
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:02,960
It's I missed the Siege of Terror.

1940
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:08,120
But he sort of is a statement of irony that Mortarion would then go on to forge a planet

1941
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:13,240
for himself in the warp, a demon world where it's basically a copy of Barbarous, where

1942
01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:17,240
he lives as like the overlord on top of a mountain.

1943
01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:22,080
So he basically became Nikair, like his the overlord, you know, abusive slash, you know,

1944
01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:23,840
adoptive father in the end.

1945
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:25,520
It's like poetry.

1946
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:26,520
They rhyme.

1947
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:27,520
Yeah.

1948
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:32,920
He sort of, I mean, it's also do with Mortarion wanting to be a hero in his own story.

1949
01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:34,600
As much as he thinks he's one.

1950
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:38,560
And the Death Guard themselves are sort of shatter, not hugely amount, but a lot of them

1951
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:41,000
sort of split into war bands.

1952
01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:44,200
This is now where it would continue to the modern 40k timeline.

1953
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:50,160
Again, we mentioned earlier instances of the Death Guard fighting Tao sort of everywhere.

1954
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:55,480
Even just one Death Guard is kind of a problem because they spread like plague and disease

1955
01:36:55,480 --> 01:36:57,680
everywhere they go.

1956
01:36:57,680 --> 01:37:00,320
They are completely fully corrupted by Nergal.

1957
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:02,360
They all enjoy their grandfather's blessings.

1958
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:05,080
There's a few of them have different nice schemes.

1959
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:10,480
So it's like the traditional Death Guard colors of like, you know, the sort of rusted cream

1960
01:37:10,480 --> 01:37:13,480
white and then the green shoulders.

1961
01:37:13,480 --> 01:37:18,600
But then there's also ones like with green covering like sort of sickly Death Guard green

1962
01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:20,480
as the model color.

1963
01:37:20,480 --> 01:37:28,640
And see in the visual we got going the baby vomit green, a nice lovely baby vomit green

1964
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:29,640
white.

1965
01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:31,920
But over time, it's going a little bit moldy.

1966
01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:34,480
And you never clean your armor.

1967
01:37:34,480 --> 01:37:40,360
And so the Death Guard now essentially become their modern 40k iterations.

1968
01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:44,760
I do believe I think at this point, though, we will sort of talk about their tabletop

1969
01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:49,880
stuff and a little bit about some of the units and how they kind of feels to play them.

1970
01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:54,360
But that's essentially is sort of the they're like small smashes.

1971
01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:57,880
There's a good book, The Lords of Silence, but I would love to do a video specifically

1972
01:37:57,880 --> 01:38:04,760
about that explains how no corruption is just so invasive and how it rewires your mind.

1973
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:09,240
But essentially is the what the entire story of the Death Guard is currently to their modern

1974
01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:11,200
40k timeline.

1975
01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:13,880
I think now we're going to do a quick question.

1976
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:16,640
No, no, the question big question of the week.

1977
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:17,640
We're bringing it back boys.

1978
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:19,760
Some of your previous comments.

1979
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:25,120
Okay, so before we start, can I get one last comment in about the Death Guard and whatnot?

1980
01:38:25,120 --> 01:38:26,120
Yes, of course.

1981
01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:28,000
This is more general complaining about Mortarion.

1982
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:29,680
I don't mind Mortarion.

1983
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:30,760
I don't hate him.

1984
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:34,480
I feel resoundingly whatever towards him.

1985
01:38:34,480 --> 01:38:37,000
Hey, and I brought this up before.

1986
01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:41,080
I hate that necromancy in the setting was wasted on his fucking backstory.

1987
01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:42,080
It is adopted.

1988
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:46,080
That's the necromancers and we're done with necromancy.

1989
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:47,080
That's it.

1990
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:48,080
That's it.

1991
01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:49,080
Everyone.

1992
01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:52,920
It should be used something like I was we said a lot about Eldar that like because they

1993
01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:58,400
have access to like the the dead is it be an elder thing like heroes of an old age

1994
01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:02,280
in two ways now both race like race units and the Ynari.

1995
01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:05,320
Of course, that wouldn't even mean the Ynari need good lore and that's that's just not

1996
01:39:05,320 --> 01:39:06,320
happening.

1997
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:10,120
Yeah, I don't think a Ynari podcast episode is coming anytime soon.

1998
01:39:10,120 --> 01:39:16,240
I feel like there's also an angle you could go maybe the elder both through Kari and elder

1999
01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:22,200
elder could say rather than be claimed by Slaanesh I'll be a frall.

2000
01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:25,520
Like that could be a narrative thing where they say, well, it's better than being part

2001
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:26,520
of Slaanesh.

2002
01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:29,240
I'll just become a zombie elder.

2003
01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:34,160
Like surely that's an avenue someone could explore is like, well, it's pick your poison

2004
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:35,840
neither is particularly good.

2005
01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:36,840
Great.

2006
01:39:36,840 --> 01:39:40,960
But yeah, on death is better than eternal torment.

2007
01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:42,560
There's maybe something there to be fair.

2008
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:46,360
I'll just let people know as well for the next question of the week we will post that

2009
01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:52,840
in the as like a pinned comment underneath here just for for him obviously we'll answer

2010
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:54,240
that then next time.

2011
01:39:54,240 --> 01:39:58,800
I think is it over to Andy I think for the question of the week.

2012
01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:01,000
I'm going to share the first one.

2013
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:04,320
So the first one is from Joe Ken.

2014
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:07,120
I hope you can all see this hashtag retirement.

2015
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:10,120
This was from our Sebastian Yarik video.

2016
01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:16,440
hashtag retirement I'd retire our farious omega and so we could get a monitorium moratorium

2017
01:40:16,440 --> 01:40:22,340
on the I am our farious means also we maybe find out which one Dom killed.

2018
01:40:22,340 --> 01:40:28,720
So I think that's Dawn Dawn Dawn Dawn Dawn Dawn Dawn Dawn Dawn Dawn Dawn Dawn Dawn Dawn

2019
01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:29,720
he killed Dom.

2020
01:40:29,720 --> 01:40:30,720
No, not Dom.

2021
01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:35,000
Yeah, he just so we can like clear up what's going on with him.

2022
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:36,560
He killed our fari Alpharius.

2023
01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:37,560
We're done with it.

2024
01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:38,560
He killed Alpharius.

2025
01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:39,560
I don't care.

2026
01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:41,280
Maybe you make a lesson.

2027
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:45,280
Okay, like the problem isn't our fari's with the problem.

2028
01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:52,200
The one the fans with a problem with we ruined the our fari's but it's actually kind of cool

2029
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:53,640
in the books.

2030
01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:54,640
We ruined it.

2031
01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:57,560
Yeah, but she W leans into where they go.

2032
01:40:57,560 --> 01:40:58,560
Maybe you wasn't.

2033
01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:00,560
You know, we miss our hearts.

2034
01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:04,760
So we just go maybe who knows we don't have an answer for you at every fucking opportunity.

2035
01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:09,400
You get a baby rage about I am baby raging again.

2036
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:13,520
It is to vet it should have been like using a couple of time they do overdo it a little

2037
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:14,520
bit.

2038
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:16,240
I'll give them that.

2039
01:41:16,240 --> 01:41:22,880
Question number two is from at Halo master 21 hashtag retirement, the entire Lamentous

2040
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:26,160
chapter I think they deserve some rest.

2041
01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:30,240
But let's be honest, wherever they retire to will probably be attacked by tyrannids

2042
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:31,240
within a week.

2043
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:38,160
Bro, I know I think that's I mean, I can't point out anything wrong with the statement.

2044
01:41:38,160 --> 01:41:40,680
I know anything wrong.

2045
01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:42,400
I think retirement would be nice for them.

2046
01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:45,920
But they just they would it would it would go wrong.

2047
01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:46,920
Bad.

2048
01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:47,920
It would die.

2049
01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:52,920
Devin Griffin, by the way, they should bring over Mr. Nagash to 40k big true, big true

2050
01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:56,720
bring the bone man in one universe is not enough for him.

2051
01:41:56,720 --> 01:42:00,320
Bone Daddy cannot hold his two universes wasn't enough.

2052
01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:03,080
He cannot hold in that ego any longer.

2053
01:42:03,080 --> 01:42:08,760
Just saying he's he's doing a much better job of being a skeleton god than the Emperor

2054
01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:11,720
is just saying true.

2055
01:42:11,720 --> 01:42:18,000
So number three is from rarest Pepe 3815 hashtag retirement, I will retire the Inquisition

2056
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:23,200
and the Adeptus Ministerum because I want to make the TTS timeline canon.

2057
01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:29,080
I mean, it would be funny in our hearts, you know, but also the Adeptus Ministerum would

2058
01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:33,360
find off when that collapse the Imperium quicker than anything else.

2059
01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:34,360
Well, you say that.

2060
01:42:34,360 --> 01:42:40,480
I think the saw that saw that hashtag retirement, I would retire the administration.

2061
01:42:40,480 --> 01:42:44,840
I have a nothing would happen because of how bloated the organization is.

2062
01:42:44,840 --> 01:42:47,400
Well, the Imperium would collapse in a week.

2063
01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:48,880
Either would be funny.

2064
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:49,880
There you go.

2065
01:42:49,880 --> 01:42:50,880
I see.

2066
01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:53,000
Yeah, it probably is a coin flip on that.

2067
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:55,400
Who knows?

2068
01:42:55,400 --> 01:43:01,240
I think my neighbor is our forest.

2069
01:43:01,240 --> 01:43:02,720
Your neighbor is our forest.

2070
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:03,720
You wouldn't know it.

2071
01:43:03,720 --> 01:43:07,360
I want you to root out our forest and let us know.

2072
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:12,440
Well, Mr. Asakala Abedan, you should hit your neighbor in the face with a brick.

2073
01:43:12,440 --> 01:43:16,800
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

2074
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:17,800
legally.

2075
01:43:17,800 --> 01:43:18,800
This is a joke.

2076
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:24,080
And I don't mean that base.

2077
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:25,680
Trust me, Morty, trust me.

2078
01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:29,160
So I was doing the voice like, trust me, Morty, you got to kill all your navigators.

2079
01:43:29,160 --> 01:43:33,280
I'm going to kill you.

2080
01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:36,920
I saw the new clip of the new voice actor.

2081
01:43:36,920 --> 01:43:37,920
I don't know what's going on.

2082
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:40,480
It was Rick beating up or tied up Rick in a chair.

2083
01:43:40,480 --> 01:43:42,920
But new voice actor is pretty good for Rick.

2084
01:43:42,920 --> 01:43:44,240
It's pretty convincing, isn't it?

2085
01:43:44,240 --> 01:43:47,520
I don't know if they'll bring the old guy, Justin, roll him back.

2086
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:48,520
Probably not.

2087
01:43:48,520 --> 01:43:55,240
I think that one might be off the table.

2088
01:43:55,240 --> 01:43:56,240
Too volatile.

2089
01:43:56,240 --> 01:43:57,240
That escalated.

2090
01:43:57,240 --> 01:43:58,240
Thank you, Jack.

2091
01:43:58,240 --> 01:44:01,240
That escalated quickly.

2092
01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:05,240
I think the last bit we'll finish on here, though, is just a bit of discussion on tabletop

2093
01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:06,240
stuff.

2094
01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:10,640
So I think over to you, Colin, just for a little bit on in terms of their tabletop flavor

2095
01:44:10,640 --> 01:44:12,240
and what kind of good stuff.

2096
01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:13,400
I would be happy to.

2097
01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:16,320
And I would also like to say that this is my do or don't for them.

2098
01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:19,960
Please never ask again for the rest of my channel.

2099
01:44:19,960 --> 01:44:22,280
Oh, you have to do it one time.

2100
01:44:22,280 --> 01:44:24,280
I'm sure at some point I'm going to do it.

2101
01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:29,640
But this is this is where I'm going to point everyone to in the for the foreseeable future.

2102
01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:36,120
So that being said, a little bit of just some basic stuff about them on the tabletop.

2103
01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:43,760
The best thing to know about them, tough and tanky as all hell, especially against small

2104
01:44:43,760 --> 01:44:47,160
arms fire, you are going to shoot them and then they're going to laugh.

2105
01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:49,680
And that's going to be the end of it.

2106
01:44:49,680 --> 01:44:54,120
They have kind of do it as I do.

2107
01:44:54,120 --> 01:45:00,160
They have the Poxwalkers pretty low tier scuff scrub unit.

2108
01:45:00,160 --> 01:45:02,400
But they do have a five up feel no pain.

2109
01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:06,320
And every time they kill a model, they get another they get a dead Poxwalker back.

2110
01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:07,880
So that's good.

2111
01:45:07,880 --> 01:45:10,440
Typhus has a two up save.

2112
01:45:10,440 --> 01:45:11,920
The average plague Marine.

2113
01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:14,120
Don't tell me I close that out.

2114
01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:15,120
I did not.

2115
01:45:15,120 --> 01:45:16,120
Good.

2116
01:45:16,120 --> 01:45:20,040
The average plague Marine is a three up save their vehicles are three up saves everything

2117
01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:26,980
except like the cultists and the Poxwalkers has a two or three up save.

2118
01:45:26,980 --> 01:45:31,120
So if you want tanky, you want the death guard.

2119
01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:32,600
They can lower enemy toughness.

2120
01:45:32,600 --> 01:45:35,160
They can do shenanigans like that.

2121
01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:39,040
They have auras where if they get close, that's what lowers the toughness.

2122
01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:46,080
Pardon me, some of the command abilities are similar, infecting enemy units so they're

2123
01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:48,120
easier to kill.

2124
01:45:48,120 --> 01:45:53,280
There's some regeneration stuff they got going on some cool stuff like that.

2125
01:45:53,280 --> 01:45:57,720
As for reasons you don't like them, you know, Eli did ask me to complain about them on the

2126
01:45:57,720 --> 01:45:58,720
table.

2127
01:45:58,720 --> 01:46:00,960
I have a few to add to that as well.

2128
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:01,960
By all means.

2129
01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:07,040
But biggest downside, they're not going anywhere at any time fast.

2130
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:11,600
They're probably I think they are the slowest army in the game.

2131
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:12,600
It would make sense.

2132
01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:17,980
Yeah, four or five inches of movement is standard for them.

2133
01:46:17,980 --> 01:46:22,360
Like they have their vehicles and I think the demon prince is a bit quicker.

2134
01:46:22,360 --> 01:46:27,280
But other than that, the death guard armies are not going anywhere anytime fast.

2135
01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:30,160
If only they could one on all fours.

2136
01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:35,480
Yeah, which is a which is a problem that or they have that lowers toughness.

2137
01:46:35,480 --> 01:46:39,240
Well, you got to be close to them to lower your toughness.

2138
01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:44,400
And it is not hard to not be close to the death guard with four inches of movement.

2139
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:48,960
It's not going to it's not a challenging thing to handle.

2140
01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:54,460
It especially makes me want to die because I play Eldar who have five million different

2141
01:46:54,460 --> 01:46:56,720
tricks to make their movement quicker.

2142
01:46:56,720 --> 01:46:59,040
And then the death guard just have to waddle across the table.

2143
01:46:59,040 --> 01:47:04,280
So that makes me physically ill to think about playing them, which I suppose is fitting,

2144
01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:05,280
you know, for the death guard.

2145
01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:06,280
It makes me sick.

2146
01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:13,560
I do have to say that they're unique sort of faction rule of the it's the capping points

2147
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:19,360
and spreading contagion from CP places.

2148
01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:23,080
It's so boring compared to a lot of the other ones like Thousand Sons have obviously got

2149
01:47:23,080 --> 01:47:24,080
the Kabbalistic ritual.

2150
01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:27,400
I've got like a full data slate thing about what I can do.

2151
01:47:27,400 --> 01:47:30,560
Whereas the death guard are basically just stinky.

2152
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:33,200
Like lower toughness stuff.

2153
01:47:33,200 --> 01:47:38,040
Oh, the nation from Dragon Master outcast for eight ninety nine New Zealand dollars saying

2154
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:41,240
the books will continue until morale improves.

2155
01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:43,200
Thank you or not.

2156
01:47:43,200 --> 01:47:48,080
I think I did someone say like I have a question which was was there anything that the emperor

2157
01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:51,600
could have done differently in his interaction with Mortarion?

2158
01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:53,800
Like could he have done something to help?

2159
01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:56,240
Oh, it'll be a little bitch.

2160
01:47:56,240 --> 01:47:59,480
It more the emperor could on a lot different.

2161
01:47:59,480 --> 01:48:04,080
But I think it's a problem with a lot of the other later found primarchs, which is like

2162
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:08,800
the emperor essentially was like, you know, it's nice, you know, having this all reunion.

2163
01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:09,800
But hurry up.

2164
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:10,800
We're on a schedule.

2165
01:48:10,800 --> 01:48:11,800
It's time to get moving.

2166
01:48:11,800 --> 01:48:13,720
I've done this 15 times already.

2167
01:48:13,720 --> 01:48:14,720
I do not care.

2168
01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:16,440
I think someone else is on its way.

2169
01:48:16,440 --> 01:48:17,440
It's a common.

2170
01:48:17,440 --> 01:48:23,400
I think CJ Kicks did also put out if law crimes had a week, could they name basically everything

2171
01:48:23,400 --> 01:48:25,200
that the emperor could have done differently?

2172
01:48:25,200 --> 01:48:29,880
Yeah, we could bring it in a week series.

2173
01:48:29,880 --> 01:48:31,880
Maybe squeeze it into a week.

2174
01:48:31,880 --> 01:48:34,920
Should have what the emperor should have worked on his parenting skills, maybe even worked

2175
01:48:34,920 --> 01:48:37,400
on his own dysfunctions and been a better father.

2176
01:48:37,400 --> 01:48:39,240
True, but he wasn't really a father.

2177
01:48:39,240 --> 01:48:41,480
He was essentially a general.

2178
01:48:41,480 --> 01:48:43,480
Yeah, general father.

2179
01:48:43,480 --> 01:48:48,280
Well, he had a good relationship with a few of his sons to an extent like Gilliam and

2180
01:48:48,280 --> 01:48:50,760
he was just like, oh, he's the more the more well adjusted.

2181
01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:52,560
He was like, oh, that's fine.

2182
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:53,560
They take care of themselves.

2183
01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:55,080
I don't need to put any work into you.

2184
01:48:55,080 --> 01:48:56,080
This is good.

2185
01:48:56,080 --> 01:48:57,080
You're perfect.

2186
01:48:57,080 --> 01:48:58,080
Go on.

2187
01:48:58,080 --> 01:48:59,080
Do your thing.

2188
01:48:59,080 --> 01:49:00,080
You are you are baked to perfection.

2189
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:01,080
You're fine.

2190
01:49:01,080 --> 01:49:02,080
Dawn, what lovely armor.

2191
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:03,800
I like the flattery to copy me.

2192
01:49:03,800 --> 01:49:04,800
That's fine.

2193
01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:05,800
Go for it.

2194
01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:06,800
Keep going.

2195
01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:07,800
Jack tight.

2196
01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:08,800
Bog is Kiwi.

2197
01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:09,800
We're cool.

2198
01:49:09,800 --> 01:49:10,800
Let's keep going.

2199
01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:11,800
That's cool.

2200
01:49:11,800 --> 01:49:12,800
So when is the next one?

2201
01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:16,200
So when is the halo tier list?

2202
01:49:16,200 --> 01:49:17,200
It's a halo.

2203
01:49:17,200 --> 01:49:20,080
I'm pretty sure halo is in the works boys.

2204
01:49:20,080 --> 01:49:21,080
Don't worry.

2205
01:49:21,080 --> 01:49:26,480
I don't see a tier list of like best maps and I think Colin made a noise I've never

2206
01:49:26,480 --> 01:49:29,480
heard him make before.

2207
01:49:29,480 --> 01:49:35,320
Has to be S tier or I know of course.

2208
01:49:35,320 --> 01:49:38,680
Well, of course, we get some box in the chat.

2209
01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:39,680
Just just everyone.

2210
01:49:39,680 --> 01:49:40,680
Bok, Bok, Bok, Bok.

2211
01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:41,680
The Lizardmen are here.

2212
01:49:41,680 --> 01:49:42,680
I hate Soros.

2213
01:49:42,680 --> 01:49:43,680
I hate them.

2214
01:49:43,680 --> 01:49:49,520
I also say about that, isn't the bite as of current time recording, the optimal death

2215
01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:53,760
guard list is basically just Rhinos, Death Guard, Plague Marines.

2216
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:55,800
Yeah, it's just it's just Rhinos and Plague Marines.

2217
01:49:55,800 --> 01:49:56,800
There's nothing else.

2218
01:49:56,800 --> 01:49:59,440
There's no there's no there's nothing else to do.

2219
01:49:59,440 --> 01:50:04,460
Your army's basically just like Mortarian is a I mean, he's a demon Primarch.

2220
01:50:04,460 --> 01:50:06,840
So obviously he's going to hit.

2221
01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:09,080
He's going to hit goodly.

2222
01:50:09,080 --> 01:50:15,300
But you're also paying out the ass for that if you want a demon Primarch.

2223
01:50:15,300 --> 01:50:24,920
And I guess one last flaw is that they do not handle for as endurance base as they are.

2224
01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:29,000
They do not handle like Melta and stuff very good.

2225
01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:32,280
Small arms firing like lasguns, bolters.

2226
01:50:32,280 --> 01:50:33,280
Don't even worry about it.

2227
01:50:33,280 --> 01:50:36,080
Just keep walking through that.

2228
01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:42,400
But they do not have when I was scrolling through their rules, not many feel no pains

2229
01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:46,320
or invulnerable saves to go around Mortarian has one.

2230
01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:48,040
Yeah, I don't think even Typhus.

2231
01:50:48,040 --> 01:50:54,000
I don't think he even has a they lost a lot of their enduring abilities from night.

2232
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:58,440
Yeah, which so like like dependent like that depends on the army, of course, which like

2233
01:50:58,440 --> 01:51:03,080
Imperial Guard, especially infantry base guard, you're going to have a grand old time walking

2234
01:51:03,080 --> 01:51:07,040
through five million guardsmen and just ignoring them.

2235
01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:12,360
When when someone breaks out the Melta weapons, though, not a whole lot you can do about that.

2236
01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:19,440
Like, I think it was a demon prince, I think was the death guard demon prince.

2237
01:51:19,440 --> 01:51:25,400
He gives units close to him a six up feel no pain, feel no pain save, which is helpful,

2238
01:51:25,400 --> 01:51:27,040
but it's on a six up like.

2239
01:51:27,040 --> 01:51:30,400
Yeah, it's like the worst end of it.

2240
01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:31,400
Oh, Anthony.

2241
01:51:31,400 --> 01:51:38,080
Anthony, again, since Eli isn't here, Colin should continue the stream edition of Eat

2242
01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:39,080
a Raw Egg.

2243
01:51:39,080 --> 01:51:41,080
But more more seriously, love you guys.

2244
01:51:41,080 --> 01:51:42,080
Keep up the great work.

2245
01:51:42,080 --> 01:51:43,080
Thank you very much.

2246
01:51:43,080 --> 01:51:44,080
Thank you so much, Anthony.

2247
01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:45,080
That's very generous of you.

2248
01:51:45,080 --> 01:51:46,080
Appreciate that a lot, brother.

2249
01:51:46,080 --> 01:51:47,080
I also I do hate to disappoint you.

2250
01:51:47,080 --> 01:51:48,080
I don't think there's an egg in my house right now, though.

2251
01:51:48,080 --> 01:51:49,080
I know I have 12 in mind for a fact.

2252
01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:50,080
Don't don't volunteer yourself.

2253
01:51:50,080 --> 01:51:51,080
I'm just stating how many eggs I know I have in my cupboard.

2254
01:51:51,080 --> 01:51:52,080
Thank you very much.

2255
01:51:52,080 --> 01:51:53,080
But here's a question though, with a table of what's the thing with death guard deployments

2256
01:51:53,080 --> 01:51:54,080
now?

2257
01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:55,080
Is it sets of five?

2258
01:51:55,080 --> 01:51:56,080
They have to be deployed.

2259
01:51:56,080 --> 01:51:57,080
I don't know.

2260
01:51:57,080 --> 01:51:58,080
I don't know.

2261
01:51:58,080 --> 01:51:59,080
I don't know.

2262
01:51:59,080 --> 01:52:00,080
I don't know.

2263
01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:01,080
I don't know.

2264
01:52:01,080 --> 01:52:02,080
I don't know.

2265
01:52:02,080 --> 01:52:03,080
I don't know.

2266
01:52:03,080 --> 01:52:04,080
I don't know.

2267
01:52:04,080 --> 01:52:05,080
I don't know.

2268
01:52:05,080 --> 01:52:06,080
I don't know.

2269
01:52:06,080 --> 01:52:17,080
I don't know.

2270
01:52:17,080 --> 01:52:18,080
Oh, squad numbers.

2271
01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:21,780
Oh, was it all you can buy them in as far I think you in squads of five and 10.

2272
01:52:21,780 --> 01:52:24,080
But then you buy them in sevens.

2273
01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:28,080
Yeah, like painting phase did a whole bit they were like, oh, they they're deployable

2274
01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:30,080
in like this Mount.

2275
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:34,560
I think it's like you have to buy them in threes or sevens and it's like you need to buy double the amount

2276
01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:42,160
To have enough to deploy. It's it's it's the same reason hot dogs and hot dog buns don't have the same amount per package

2277
01:52:42,240 --> 01:52:44,240
It's to get you to buy more

2278
01:52:44,400 --> 01:52:47,120
I didn't know that was a thing. I didn't know that yeah hot dog buns

2279
01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:52,160
I think like hot dogs are in like packages of 12 buns are in packages of 10

2280
01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:54,800
I mean, i'm or maybe it's the other way around. It's been a while

2281
01:52:54,800 --> 01:53:00,320
I've not had a hot dog in a while. I've gone out of my way to buy hot dogs that weren't just from a fast food joint

2282
01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:02,320
That reminded me

2283
01:53:02,320 --> 01:53:03,840
I'm just eating hot dogs now. I'm sorry

2284
01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:08,080
You've given both me and Hal an existential crisis. PTSD hot dogs

2285
01:53:08,400 --> 01:53:15,280
That reminded me though of the final thing to complain about for the death guard on the tabletop. I hate their combat patrol box sucks

2286
01:53:16,560 --> 01:53:17,760
Oh damn

2287
01:53:17,760 --> 01:53:22,000
It is uh, it's typhus which on the one hand you get typhus. That's good

2288
01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:25,360
but that kills any re-viability of it because

2289
01:53:26,240 --> 01:53:29,680
You can't have more than one typhus. Yeah. Yeah, you get one

2290
01:53:30,240 --> 01:53:31,920
uh, it has

2291
01:53:31,920 --> 01:53:33,920
I don't even remember what the unit is called

2292
01:53:34,320 --> 01:53:36,320
I think it's supposed to be like an apothecary

2293
01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:39,280
Biologus putrefier. I don't know what that means

2294
01:53:41,040 --> 01:53:45,440
Uh, seven plague marines, there's a horrible number and 30 pox walkers

2295
01:53:45,440 --> 01:53:50,400
I yeah, I would like some marines with my trader marine legion, please games workshop

2296
01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:56,320
Yeah, although to that in as a last sort of saving grace is that the death guard models do look good

2297
01:53:56,320 --> 01:53:59,120
They on the tabletop you've got an army. That's

2298
01:53:59,840 --> 01:54:05,920
Relatively like up to date and it looks good and you can paint it like I mean even if you paint it wrong

2299
01:54:06,480 --> 01:54:09,520
Like you don't know how to paint like he's like, oh, I'm new. I don't know what i'm doing

2300
01:54:09,520 --> 01:54:11,280
You can still paint them relatively well

2301
01:54:11,280 --> 01:54:16,320
you can have each other good go because them looking like messed up and inconsistent is

2302
01:54:16,320 --> 01:54:19,680
They're looking a bit rough around the edges. It's kind of the appeal like yeah

2303
01:54:20,240 --> 01:54:24,240
They actually they're the easiest army to paint just shit and then use that to paint them

2304
01:54:24,240 --> 01:54:29,680
I like the idea that you just like you finger paint them in like greed and then just like dunk them in custard and go like

2305
01:54:29,680 --> 01:54:32,480
There we go. You would it would taste disgusting

2306
01:54:32,480 --> 01:54:35,760
Go to the bathroom dunk it in the toilet and there's your paint

2307
01:54:36,480 --> 01:54:39,200
Thank you, uh saint named slick saint named

2308
01:54:39,200 --> 01:54:42,240
Slick back who says no way they got mf doom on the part

2309
01:54:48,240 --> 01:54:54,240
Um, so you can convert typhus to a lord of contagion because you can't even buy that anymore you can't buy the lord of contagion

2310
01:54:55,200 --> 01:54:57,200
Huh?

2311
01:54:57,200 --> 01:55:01,200
I'm scrolling through their uh web store right now. I do not see a lord of contagion

2312
01:55:01,200 --> 01:55:07,760
I see lord felthius and his tainted court, which I don't like any of the words in that sentence

2313
01:55:08,560 --> 01:55:10,960
It's the taint bit that gets you like, uh

2314
01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:16,240
I don't want to I don't want to buy that that and the word the name felthius not a fan

2315
01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:19,760
Collin's done a grand sponsorship with bad dragons, right?

2316
01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:22,880
No, it was adam and eve different

2317
01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:27,440
We're not currently sponsored by adam and eve but uh

2318
01:55:27,440 --> 01:55:34,240
He was hoping uh, someone said uh reminds them of the um, I guess it's the combat troll combat patrol for the thousand sons

2319
01:55:34,800 --> 01:55:37,840
I got that one too with the with the loss of the sangho

2320
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:45,280
Honestly to that I I sang you only like this is you need ten of them at most for a bat cap and it's fine

2321
01:55:45,280 --> 01:55:49,840
I mean to say is you still save a lot of money, but again like zango's

2322
01:55:50,560 --> 01:55:53,840
Zango's seem like an afterthought and someone really hates us

2323
01:55:53,840 --> 01:55:59,760
In thousand suns players because they're like, you know what? They really need like sorcerers models. No, we need more goats

2324
01:56:00,480 --> 01:56:02,480
Goat bird. Yeah

2325
01:56:02,640 --> 01:56:04,640
Give me goat bird

2326
01:56:06,960 --> 01:56:07,760
I

2327
01:56:07,760 --> 01:56:08,800
mean

2328
01:56:08,800 --> 01:56:12,400
It could be worse it could be that christmas box they released for the white scars

2329
01:56:12,400 --> 01:56:15,200
Which the main character in the box wasn't even on a bike

2330
01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:18,800
Oh, koso khan is not he's not on a bike dude

2331
01:56:18,800 --> 01:56:20,400
It was like

2332
01:56:20,400 --> 01:56:26,960
You need him on what's he's got moon dragon. Is he meant to run on all fours as fast as a bike or something? I don't get it

2333
01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:29,760
Well, then have you seen that new storm sea a model?

2334
01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:32,800
That does look pretty sick

2335
01:56:33,360 --> 01:56:39,280
I'm honestly i'm i'm gonna feel a little bit of marine fatigue in terms of like man like, you know after how many primaris

2336
01:56:39,760 --> 01:56:44,960
Lieutenants came out after a while. I you know what everything starts with like a primaris lieutenant

2337
01:56:46,000 --> 01:56:48,000
Shout to my girlfriend

2338
01:56:48,000 --> 01:56:50,980
Lieutenant shout to my girl primaris lieutenant

2339
01:56:52,640 --> 01:56:57,600
I didn't mean that um, the death guard might be a little bit better than a nurkel in age of sigmar

2340
01:56:57,760 --> 01:57:00,720
It looks like their dawn bringer box is uh, eight models

2341
01:57:02,080 --> 01:57:07,760
Oh damn, although it is two of them are like big boys on the plate throne. So maybe that balances it out

2342
01:57:08,640 --> 01:57:11,360
Uh, we'll say no. No, we still we'll say now but as well

2343
01:57:11,360 --> 01:57:16,800
This is kind of the end of the main podcast if you guys have any uh questions you want to hit us up with or

2344
01:57:16,800 --> 01:57:21,280
Or things for my will be hanging on just for a little bit longer just to have a little chat

2345
01:57:21,760 --> 01:57:23,760
Hangout sesh boys if you want

2346
01:57:24,160 --> 01:57:27,040
Um, I also talk about as well like because i'm myself

2347
01:57:27,760 --> 01:57:32,640
Uh playing tabletop as well as a lot of the I think i've gotten to a lot more recently over like the last

2348
01:57:33,520 --> 01:57:34,720
year or two

2349
01:57:34,720 --> 01:57:38,720
And I did like consider getting death guard for a while because again like the models are

2350
01:57:39,280 --> 01:57:45,120
Colin's dropping his mic. Um, I thought I was getting death guard because they are pretty cool looking again

2351
01:57:45,120 --> 01:57:46,160
but

2352
01:57:46,160 --> 01:57:50,160
Like with most editions like you are buying an army. Just do go with the one that you kind of

2353
01:57:50,960 --> 01:57:54,560
In like you you like the law and you kind of like the models because

2354
01:57:55,200 --> 01:57:57,760
It's always going to fluctuate with how well your army's doing

2355
01:57:58,080 --> 01:58:02,000
So, um, oh, I think another donation here. So i'm going to read that one out there

2356
01:58:02,480 --> 01:58:04,480
Oh reader

2357
01:58:04,480 --> 01:58:06,880
Some rat thing. Thank you. Ah, yes

2358
01:58:07,440 --> 01:58:12,320
Gavin the most benevolent my masters the gray seers requests to ask you to do a

2359
01:58:12,320 --> 01:58:14,960
Tierless rank of namescaven characters

2360
01:58:15,360 --> 01:58:23,200
Glory to this horrid rat good man. That is a fantastic idea. Thank you very much and what a what an idea you've got

2361
01:58:23,200 --> 01:58:24,720
That is actually I mean

2362
01:58:24,720 --> 01:58:29,200
If everyone's I think we could probably maybe add that in on the next tier list one we do to be fair

2363
01:58:29,200 --> 01:58:31,200
If it's not out there, i'll make it myself

2364
01:58:31,200 --> 01:58:33,200
We need this to be a literal

2365
01:58:33,920 --> 01:58:41,200
Um, which one entire tier just for thank all though. So we're letting we're letting you guys know now like already the bias is gone

2366
01:58:41,200 --> 01:58:43,200
Already the bias is coming out

2367
01:58:43,520 --> 01:58:44,960
um

2368
01:58:44,960 --> 01:58:46,880
Yes rat things. Yes. Yes

2369
01:58:46,880 --> 01:58:53,200
I would just I would I would miss talking about scaven too fair because there's just one of the few things like it's an absolute shining

2370
01:58:53,360 --> 01:58:58,080
German fantasy and I don't know what the 40k faction equivalent of that

2371
01:58:58,880 --> 01:59:02,400
Is like there's there's orcs, but they're not it's not the same

2372
01:59:02,800 --> 01:59:08,640
It was the crude they were just space gaven and then they changed to be the weird aging like scaly things

2373
01:59:08,640 --> 01:59:14,800
Yeah, but then even then they're just like a it's barely mentioned as like a xenos race. It's kind of a bit

2374
01:59:15,600 --> 01:59:21,280
There really should be like a faction where it's just like minor xenos races as like a sort of conglomerate thing

2375
01:59:21,280 --> 01:59:23,280
We get wacky models

2376
01:59:23,280 --> 01:59:25,280
All of that calls bone rivers ranked

2377
01:59:28,480 --> 01:59:30,480
All 10 000 of them

2378
01:59:31,520 --> 01:59:36,560
Oh my god, someone says i'm late, but i'm here you've got a lot to get through brother. I won't lie

2379
01:59:36,560 --> 01:59:38,560
um

2380
01:59:39,760 --> 01:59:45,120
Eli will be here for that one. He will do scaven. We'll we would all have a go at scaven voice probably at some point though

2381
01:59:45,680 --> 01:59:49,760
Uh enclave says good to see senator armstrong here, bro

2382
01:59:53,680 --> 01:59:58,960
Oh my god people people who do we all look like I wonder if you look i'm not i'm not gonna i'm not gonna

2383
01:59:59,760 --> 02:00:04,240
I'm not gonna not take a comparison to senator armstrong. I'm just saying that when the hairline

2384
02:00:04,240 --> 02:00:07,620
I mean completely goes bald you better start calling me sundowner

2385
02:00:08,080 --> 02:00:13,040
And then you gotta be like for now you're going don't fuck with this senator and then like makes a gang

2386
02:00:13,680 --> 02:00:17,520
It's a cool jack and i'm such a such a child

2387
02:00:20,640 --> 02:00:25,120
MS 20 says feet picked when um stop

2388
02:00:25,600 --> 02:00:32,720
Honestly, I want to say never but let's be honest. We have a price. Um, hold on. I'll do one now. No, no, no, no

2389
02:00:32,720 --> 02:00:34,720
I'm not sure

2390
02:00:36,560 --> 02:00:40,800
You don't get money for that out you gotta that's gotta be a mercenary i'm doing it i'm doing it

2391
02:00:40,960 --> 02:00:45,040
You don't need to put a eye in drawer. Okay. Thank god. There you go. Okay. Okay

2392
02:00:47,440 --> 02:00:52,000
I made you scared there for a second. I did um, put the grippers away

2393
02:00:54,560 --> 02:00:59,920
Uh insert creativity here, but I wished how would get more auxiliary support for weirder aliens

2394
02:00:59,920 --> 02:01:03,860
absolutely, it's such a missed opportunity for

2395
02:01:05,060 --> 02:01:07,700
I mean like some models they do like particularly age of sigma

2396
02:01:08,180 --> 02:01:14,420
Whoever the age of sigma team is where are they in the 40k stuff because that team is pumping out models

2397
02:01:15,140 --> 02:01:19,780
That is just they like they are cooking and I don't get why we don't have some of those like

2398
02:01:20,180 --> 02:01:24,180
Like crazy things like I think a lot of 40k models are pretty safe

2399
02:01:24,740 --> 02:01:26,740
I think I read and uh

2400
02:01:26,740 --> 02:01:29,780
Take it with a grain of salt because I don't know for certain

2401
02:01:30,340 --> 02:01:33,860
but I think I read a statement that like soft confirmed that

2402
02:01:34,900 --> 02:01:35,700
when

2403
02:01:35,700 --> 02:01:39,620
gw writers and models and whatnot want to be creative and do out their stuff

2404
02:01:40,100 --> 02:01:42,260
They're specifically put onto age of sigma

2405
02:01:43,300 --> 02:01:49,540
Because like 40k has its identity and gw executives. Yeah, it's a bit too. They want to be more safe

2406
02:01:49,540 --> 02:01:56,340
Yeah, whereas aos especially because it's not even 10 years old yet. They're like, yeah do go nuts do whatever

2407
02:01:56,900 --> 02:01:59,220
He was commenting on the feet pick thing. He drew

2408
02:02:00,740 --> 02:02:02,820
Move off for the feet thing about age of sigma

2409
02:02:04,180 --> 02:02:08,260
And he's like, oh no, no, no more feet. What is that's a hand?

2410
02:02:10,180 --> 02:02:11,540
Okay, um

2411
02:02:11,540 --> 02:02:17,380
Sounds as they have five warp tokens for you. That's already too much just you're too generous to be fair

2412
02:02:17,380 --> 02:02:20,260
Um, I think to be fair we would like to do

2413
02:02:21,380 --> 02:02:25,780
We will definitely add I think if we can we can add the scaven tier list into our

2414
02:02:26,340 --> 02:02:30,580
Next one and again any other suggestions for that is definitely welcome. We appreciate that guys

2415
02:02:31,540 --> 02:02:36,340
I think though if that's I think that's for most people's questions out the way though. I think that might be just

2416
02:02:37,060 --> 02:02:42,820
The possible end of this anyone wants to add anything more anything on there? Should we uh, uh,

2417
02:02:43,700 --> 02:02:45,540
I don't I

2418
02:02:45,540 --> 02:02:47,540
Tease next time's one

2419
02:02:48,340 --> 02:02:50,340
Different army than death guard

2420
02:02:52,020 --> 02:02:54,020
This'll we will say by then

2421
02:02:54,020 --> 02:02:58,740
A lot of this the live one here will be trimmed down into a video after so

2422
02:02:59,460 --> 02:03:03,940
Don't worry about the jank if you're watching this live thinking this is a bit different

2423
02:03:04,580 --> 02:03:06,580
It'll be trimmed down a bit nicer

2424
02:03:07,460 --> 02:03:11,940
They were I think 50 win rate last metal watch so hey, they do have that going for them

2425
02:03:11,940 --> 02:03:16,100
They're not the mark elder. I do I do watch um, or specs tactics

2426
02:03:16,180 --> 02:03:19,540
It's good obviously the channel that saves this entire community

2427
02:03:19,940 --> 02:03:24,420
And I remember seeing like every video I look and the comments always like oh they're ruining the game

2428
02:03:24,500 --> 02:03:29,380
They're ruining the game and like you look at the last data slate balance and everything's nearly like

2429
02:03:29,920 --> 02:03:33,300
50 50 so i'm like that's as good as it's gonna get

2430
02:03:34,580 --> 02:03:36,580
So I don't I think people

2431
02:03:36,580 --> 02:03:41,940
Like it's it's okay assume anyone who says they're ruining the game has an army that got nerfed

2432
02:03:42,420 --> 02:03:45,220
Whose win rate went down? I kind of just assume that

2433
02:03:45,940 --> 02:03:47,220
yeah, I mean

2434
02:03:47,220 --> 02:03:50,340
Some of the armies I play like they're not the highest win rate, but

2435
02:03:50,980 --> 02:03:56,100
That's fine because even between just playing a game. It's so up in the air at all times

2436
02:03:56,580 --> 02:04:00,660
It's pretty close. It's okay dudes. Don't worry about it. I'm gonna watch 40k top three

2437
02:04:00,900 --> 02:04:03,220
Uh eldar orcs and leagues of otan

2438
02:04:03,220 --> 02:04:06,740
The war in heaven round two and deep rock galactic, baby

2439
02:04:07,620 --> 02:04:09,620
rock and stone

2440
02:04:09,620 --> 02:04:14,820
Uh, thank you mass 20. I appreciate that. Um, someone said also imperial fist beginning to expert

2441
02:04:15,620 --> 02:04:17,860
What could do to be fair? Um

2442
02:04:18,420 --> 02:04:21,140
Imperial first is a tough one just because they are

2443
02:04:22,100 --> 02:04:25,860
They actually fight for how like much there is about imperial first

2444
02:04:25,860 --> 02:04:30,740
They actually don't stand out much in the law as it they it can be done. Obviously, but I think it's more

2445
02:04:30,740 --> 02:04:35,780
It's a tough one because it kind of gets wrapped into basically being individual characters such as like sigismund and

2446
02:04:36,420 --> 02:04:38,980
Alexis pollux things like that. It basically gets wrapped into

2447
02:04:39,620 --> 02:04:46,580
Certain storylines the imperial first just sit in terror for like all their books. So it's a bit tough that one

2448
02:04:47,060 --> 02:04:49,300
Oh my god, the rock and stone is everywhere. What have you done?

2449
02:04:50,100 --> 02:04:55,220
I mentioned deep rock galactic. What do you think? I did the call to action. So it's my fault

2450
02:04:56,500 --> 02:04:58,500
Rock and stone boys. Oh my god

2451
02:04:58,500 --> 02:05:01,540
Rock and stone boys rock and stone

2452
02:05:03,860 --> 02:05:07,540
Very clever. Oh my god. What have we drilled up here?

2453
02:05:08,660 --> 02:05:12,900
Look if you don't rock and stone, you ain't coming home. It's it's as simple as that. Yeah

2454
02:05:14,340 --> 02:05:16,100
Don't be a leaf lover

2455
02:05:16,100 --> 02:05:22,820
Someone said hammer and bolter tierless episode discussion. That's a good idea hammer and bolter

2456
02:05:22,820 --> 02:05:27,460
Um parts of it. I would have to give it a full. I think it's over to be honest

2457
02:05:27,460 --> 02:05:32,180
They did the lucius episode and I don't think they're planning to do any more at this rate. I've seen the

2458
02:05:33,220 --> 02:05:38,100
I thought it was getting better though. I've seen the bit where the avatar of cain gets avatar of cain

2459
02:05:38,820 --> 02:05:42,420
Yeah, sad there's about 15 episodes. I've watched them all but like

2460
02:05:43,220 --> 02:05:49,060
I think they're done because I think they're they're like, oh we can't put any more like time and effort into it because obviously

2461
02:05:49,060 --> 02:05:52,820
They did a bunch of them and then everyone said oh the animation is a bit jank

2462
02:05:52,900 --> 02:05:55,460
So then they started releasing them very slowly

2463
02:05:56,100 --> 02:05:58,100
And I think they've now realized oh

2464
02:05:58,340 --> 02:06:00,580
It takes a lot of work to make it look good, doesn't it?

2465
02:06:01,220 --> 02:06:03,220
Oh animations hard

2466
02:06:03,940 --> 02:06:09,300
To finish it with lucius's episode 15 done because I don't think they have any plans to do anymore to be honest

2467
02:06:10,100 --> 02:06:13,060
I guess that's kind of we should mention it like the whole um

2468
02:06:13,060 --> 02:06:17,700
Um, what i'm about to say, I even forgot what it's called then whamma plus thing

2469
02:06:18,500 --> 02:06:20,500
is kind of uh

2470
02:06:20,900 --> 02:06:26,020
I mean, yeah, there's like this. I don't even know what's going on with that anymore. I feel like they're giving up on it

2471
02:06:26,020 --> 02:06:30,020
I really enjoyed pariah nexus, but it was only three episodes and I was like

2472
02:06:31,220 --> 02:06:33,220
this

2473
02:06:33,620 --> 02:06:35,620
Iron within was one episode

2474
02:06:36,260 --> 02:06:37,620
angels of death was great

2475
02:06:37,620 --> 02:06:44,340
But then that was the only standout thing and that was the launch thing and then they did origins for three episodes and interrogator was six

2476
02:06:44,340 --> 02:06:45,460
and I was like

2477
02:06:45,460 --> 02:06:48,420
There's just not enough. There's just not enough stuff. I think they

2478
02:06:49,540 --> 02:06:51,940
They obviously would like to have a lot of their

2479
02:06:53,060 --> 02:06:56,420
things on their own platform just because in terms of

2480
02:06:57,300 --> 02:07:04,020
jw is a bit more of a traditional company where like they they think about like stock prices and all that kind of stuff they're not

2481
02:07:04,020 --> 02:07:08,580
You can already tell like they they don't they don't quite even like they said like people who do lore stuff

2482
02:07:08,580 --> 02:07:12,040
They don't understand how to utilize us particularly

2483
02:07:12,820 --> 02:07:14,500
and so as

2484
02:07:14,500 --> 02:07:16,500
as of at least

2485
02:07:17,120 --> 02:07:21,780
2015 at the like longest from last time they said it they have admitted

2486
02:07:21,780 --> 02:07:26,020
We do not think video games are a worthwhile investment, which is the most

2487
02:07:26,660 --> 02:07:32,420
Cracked thing I have ever heard come out of a stock report. Oh my god the raptor talon

2488
02:07:32,420 --> 02:07:34,420
He's back. Wow

2489
02:07:34,580 --> 02:07:40,980
Did I get any this boot? I can't thank you. Yes. Thank you so much raptor talon. Oh my god

2490
02:07:42,020 --> 02:07:44,740
Um, that's very generous of you. Thank you so much

2491
02:07:45,540 --> 02:07:47,860
um, we're having a brief discussion about the

2492
02:07:48,740 --> 02:07:51,700
Well, I think was it like the um one or plus thing

2493
02:07:51,700 --> 02:07:56,820
I think they should just I know they don't want to have like an ecosystem thing on youtube

2494
02:07:57,860 --> 02:08:01,540
Because I don't know if they kind of understand like they don't understand it

2495
02:08:01,540 --> 02:08:03,300
They don't understand it

2496
02:08:03,300 --> 02:08:06,500
Whereas a tendo if they're working let's players if they had

2497
02:08:07,060 --> 02:08:11,940
It had all these videos or animations on youtube. There's no doubt in my mind. Warhammer would be

2498
02:08:12,500 --> 02:08:13,600
like

2499
02:08:13,600 --> 02:08:17,460
Massive like way more massive than we'd even think about yeah, you know

2500
02:08:18,260 --> 02:08:20,660
How many people have said like a start he's got them into warhammer

2501
02:08:20,660 --> 02:08:25,780
I think people were listening here like you might a few of you might have never even heard of warhammer until the starties came around

2502
02:08:26,260 --> 02:08:27,460
dawn of war

2503
02:08:27,460 --> 02:08:33,220
Yeah, could you that to prior nexus should have been another like version of that and a star sees

2504
02:08:33,860 --> 02:08:35,860
Bok bok lots of box

2505
02:08:36,180 --> 02:08:37,940
Bok is our thing now

2506
02:08:37,940 --> 02:08:39,940
um, I I should

2507
02:08:40,020 --> 02:08:45,940
Again, I feel like just they kind of do shoot themselves in the foot a lot of time and they don't realize how much like imagine

2508
02:08:46,100 --> 02:08:48,100
I well as much as it is

2509
02:08:48,100 --> 02:08:51,220
I just I just feel like it's self-aggrandizing if all the you

2510
02:08:51,620 --> 02:08:54,100
Warhammer youtube went away like all of us lot

2511
02:08:54,100 --> 02:08:57,300
It would be quite like a I don't know where i'd hear it

2512
02:08:57,940 --> 02:09:01,620
like warhammer, well, I think i'm seeing it maybe what i've observed from

2513
02:09:03,220 --> 02:09:06,340
People who've worked at games workshop and have now left

2514
02:09:06,980 --> 02:09:13,620
The big thing is they don't want to attach people or personalities to the brand. They're like we don't want

2515
02:09:14,420 --> 02:09:19,060
Them to hijack our ip. It's kind of a russet area, but don't remember that

2516
02:09:19,060 --> 02:09:26,420
It's like that's why they they did the only hands thing where they removed all their painters faces from warhammer tv

2517
02:09:26,420 --> 02:09:30,180
Because they were like we don't want to promote the people we want to promote the brand

2518
02:09:30,180 --> 02:09:34,660
So you only see their hands in the video and there's no faces when they're painting and they've brought that back

2519
02:09:35,140 --> 02:09:39,140
but it's like they're they're very very very protective of

2520
02:09:39,780 --> 02:09:41,300
oh, we don't want

2521
02:09:41,300 --> 02:09:45,220
colin or andy or how being associated with warhammer because

2522
02:09:45,220 --> 02:09:49,620
Warhammer is our thing. We want space marines to be the face of warhammer. We don't want

2523
02:09:50,180 --> 02:09:51,620
this some

2524
02:09:51,620 --> 02:09:56,660
Some dudes on youtube or whatever being the face of warhammer and that's kind of the I think that's the bulk of it

2525
02:09:56,660 --> 02:10:02,980
That's why it reminds me of rooster teeth. Everyone if everyone here had watched rooster back in the day. It was all personality driven

2526
02:10:03,780 --> 02:10:08,340
That you understand that people weren't there for the let's play they're there for the let's players

2527
02:10:08,660 --> 02:10:11,620
Yeah, so I kind of see their reasoning there

2528
02:10:11,620 --> 02:10:15,620
but again, it's also just there's a big divide between I think um

2529
02:10:16,180 --> 02:10:21,700
It because it's been around so long games workshop. They're much more like a traditional brick and mortar company than a

2530
02:10:22,500 --> 02:10:27,060
Like other and and I think there's also something to be said about probably the people who are running it are quite

2531
02:10:27,460 --> 02:10:31,620
Old-fashioned in that regard and they're like all these kids with their new fangled text

2532
02:10:32,420 --> 02:10:39,540
So I don't get it. No, but some mention critical role. I I've watched critical roles good too to be fair. Um, yes

2533
02:10:39,540 --> 02:10:46,180
I seen almost like a start is was the way to get your mates into warhammer. I just i've made my friends watch as darthis

2534
02:10:46,980 --> 02:10:51,700
Because I again, it's just such a missed opportunity like pariah nexus should be free on youtube

2535
02:10:52,260 --> 02:10:56,420
And imagine how many people will go like what the hell is this warhammer thing? It looks so good

2536
02:10:56,980 --> 02:11:01,220
That's what i'm i'm wondering what the hell is going on with the uh, the tv series of it

2537
02:11:02,980 --> 02:11:07,060
I know they're obviously like we don't want to show off what we got before it's ready, but it's like

2538
02:11:07,060 --> 02:11:14,740
It's been radio silence. It's been very quiet. I think again as of is always um

2539
02:11:15,300 --> 02:11:18,740
Held close to our chest, but I think we also to fit in a way. We'll say we all

2540
02:11:19,700 --> 02:11:21,140
operate within an

2541
02:11:21,140 --> 02:11:23,140
ecosystem or ecosystem of a

2542
02:11:23,140 --> 02:11:26,180
Warhammer stuff which is lucky that an echo chamber. Yes. Yeah

2543
02:11:26,820 --> 02:11:32,020
We're just lucky that warhammer is such a good setting that um, we get to make all these kind of lore videos about it

2544
02:11:32,100 --> 02:11:34,660
there's just again, there's just so much to it and

2545
02:11:34,660 --> 02:11:40,580
The at least the writing and the models are all you know me like we can as much as we all have our complaints about it

2546
02:11:41,060 --> 02:11:43,540
Uh raptor town again boy. What's going on?

2547
02:11:44,260 --> 02:11:49,380
Well, it seems i'm now required to do this so but listen raps town. Thank you so much

2548
02:11:50,260 --> 02:11:56,420
Bro, you're putting our children through my unborn children through college uh university appreciate that so much

2549
02:11:57,060 --> 02:11:58,500
um

2550
02:11:58,500 --> 02:12:02,180
Wow, uh, I don't even know what I was saying and I was like, uh, but yeah, which one ends on like

2551
02:12:02,180 --> 02:12:05,700
We're very lucky. We have the how much like I used to be a war like star wars fan

2552
02:12:06,500 --> 02:12:10,660
And you come from star wars and you particularly look at the state of star wars now where?

2553
02:12:11,300 --> 02:12:17,700
Most stuff is ah reference like that. That's the entire thing. It's just reference like remember that thing remember anakin guys

2554
02:12:17,700 --> 02:12:24,340
Uh-huh. You remember anakin you remember that that's basically what star wars has come down to and you remember darfader

2555
02:12:24,900 --> 02:12:28,660
He's dead, but you remember darfader. Let's bring out darfader again

2556
02:12:28,660 --> 02:12:32,340
Let's bring out darfader again. It's like a department park almost

2557
02:12:33,220 --> 02:12:38,260
It's unending. I think I think of the um, do you want to see the south park thing recently?

2558
02:12:40,420 --> 02:12:45,380
South park kathleen kennedy thing was funny. I won't go too much into it just because it is um,

2559
02:12:46,100 --> 02:12:47,860
That's obviously not

2560
02:12:47,860 --> 02:12:52,260
Anything much to do. It's spicy, but obviously south park have always been like

2561
02:12:52,900 --> 02:12:56,100
Funny and like slash on the pulse with things and I enjoy that stuff

2562
02:12:56,100 --> 02:13:01,460
Um, but yeah, we're lucky we do think about warhammer is luckily most it's well written

2563
02:13:01,860 --> 02:13:05,380
The books are good stuff coming out. The model's always good coming out

2564
02:13:05,380 --> 02:13:08,900
I mean, it's not always on the timeline we want it to be but I mean, you know

2565
02:13:09,060 --> 02:13:13,700
Eventually the models and the books are their bread and butter and it's mainly the models

2566
02:13:13,780 --> 02:13:19,940
So that's what they're going to focus on but it's good that we get to to pick apart the lore and go. Oh, this is interesting

2567
02:13:20,020 --> 02:13:22,020
With this neat. Yeah

2568
02:13:22,020 --> 02:13:26,980
Well, the law I mean that's not why the law is good the law like so far as like as much of it

2569
02:13:27,140 --> 02:13:30,580
There is the law is good as much as there are also little bits that are a bit like, yeah

2570
02:13:31,380 --> 02:13:35,300
But overall the collective is is slaps of interest to this many people

2571
02:13:36,020 --> 02:13:42,520
If it wasn't at least halfway decent and yeah, I know i've said this several times before but I think warhammer is going through a renaissance

2572
02:13:42,820 --> 02:13:48,500
Right now where it's like there's so many channels. There's so many new books. There's so many new authors being brought into the fault of black library

2573
02:13:48,500 --> 02:13:51,540
They're doing new models. They're doing new

2574
02:13:52,580 --> 02:13:54,740
Games like uh the horus eras stuff

2575
02:13:54,740 --> 02:14:00,900
Like it's going through like a kind of big step right now. And so there's never been a better time to get into it

2576
02:14:02,020 --> 02:14:05,060
Sounds as it used to be a star wars fan, bro. Listen, I feel you

2577
02:14:05,700 --> 02:14:10,840
It was uh, it's just been a tough few years. I don't I get that's the one thing like warhammer

2578
02:14:11,780 --> 02:14:17,460
There's a there's a difference between like when you actually see star wars and then like horus rising the first warhammer book

2579
02:14:17,460 --> 02:14:18,580
It's just like oh damn

2580
02:14:18,580 --> 02:14:26,020
This is like someone is got a someone's big braining this right now and got um good lore also again models

2581
02:14:27,060 --> 02:14:31,140
Most most models look good. I'm not gonna play about league of otan at some point

2582
02:14:31,700 --> 02:14:35,300
Because I just I i'm so annoyed at how generic the league of otan look

2583
02:14:35,940 --> 02:14:39,620
but um, uh, i'm gonna use the rapture talon this guy is

2584
02:14:40,500 --> 02:14:45,060
Putting us through. I mean, it's not a donation, but I just chilled a little bit. It's like thank you so much earlier

2585
02:14:45,060 --> 02:14:51,380
Hey, you you also said like there's only one good sci-fi series and it's babalon 5 you miss called nalo

2586
02:14:52,020 --> 02:14:56,420
Uh, that might be a verbal I come out with a series called but it's got simon pegg and bill bailey in it

2587
02:14:56,420 --> 02:15:00,100
And they're working at a comic shop and he's like, oh I need to we need to bring you to so and so

2588
02:15:00,180 --> 02:15:02,420
I can't leave the work. He's like you need to get fired. Oh

2589
02:15:03,780 --> 02:15:05,220
so and so

2590
02:15:05,220 --> 02:15:08,180
Babylon five is a big pile of shit get out and they go

2591
02:15:10,100 --> 02:15:12,100
And that's how they're getting fired

2592
02:15:12,100 --> 02:15:17,060
Uh battle star galactica is just babalon 5 but sad it is quite sad fun

2593
02:15:17,140 --> 02:15:22,580
Fun fact for everyone who wants to be more depressed about star wars the koto remake is pretty much dead in the water now

2594
02:15:23,380 --> 02:15:24,420
No

2595
02:15:24,420 --> 02:15:26,420
Yeah, it is uh

2596
02:15:26,740 --> 02:15:28,740
The uh giant is uh

2597
02:15:29,540 --> 02:15:31,540
on the show, uh

2598
02:15:31,700 --> 02:15:35,860
Giant bombs jeff grubb is uh, the quote is I just want to clear it up

2599
02:15:35,940 --> 02:15:38,980
This game is not being worked on right now just full stop

2600
02:15:38,980 --> 02:15:43,780
The game is not being worked on in any way at any studio didn't have a trailer

2601
02:15:44,420 --> 02:15:47,860
It did it was officially announced because it's dead in the water

2602
02:15:47,860 --> 02:15:54,180
Didn't they just re-release it on the switch as well like the original? Yeah, that might be why they're like, oh we don't need you

2603
02:15:54,340 --> 02:15:58,340
We're just gonna re-release. What's going bro? Okay, we're lucky. Oh, yeah

2604
02:15:59,620 --> 02:16:03,140
I guess we could finish on what we who do we actually think the warhammer?

2605
02:16:03,140 --> 02:16:08,740
TV series if they're gonna debut it, what do you think the uh flagship ones are gonna be?

2606
02:16:09,220 --> 02:16:12,500
I would hope for kyphus cain, but it's probably gonna be either uh

2607
02:16:13,220 --> 02:16:16,840
Eisenhorn. Yeah, eisenhorn or some ultramarine

2608
02:16:17,780 --> 02:16:24,420
I don't I think they should do kyphus cain just for henry cavill just so they can actually get so many series out of it

2609
02:16:25,380 --> 02:16:28,260
Eisenhorn should be someone else because it's only like three

2610
02:16:28,260 --> 02:16:33,300
Books and then I feel like the thing is though. They're gonna have to launch with something

2611
02:16:34,420 --> 02:16:37,540
Because that's kind of the draw. It's like if we don't have a space marine

2612
02:16:37,940 --> 02:16:42,020
It could be confused with another ip, but if it's like look at the big chunky boy

2613
02:16:42,340 --> 02:16:44,820
It's like oh that's i've not seen that on the television before

2614
02:16:46,340 --> 02:16:49,220
Eisenhorn has got space rings in the first book, but they're like

2615
02:16:49,300 --> 02:16:51,940
They're gonna have to be very heavily in the story if that's the case

2616
02:16:51,940 --> 02:16:59,300
Yeah, I would say like i'm sure even if like they do like kyphus cain or eisenhorn. Whoa, Anthony again. Oh, it's just for me

2617
02:16:59,540 --> 02:17:00,500
uh

2618
02:17:00,500 --> 02:17:08,340
How i'm literally painting my third land fortress right now and you've been hurting you've hurt my soul talking smack about my gender

2619
02:17:09,780 --> 02:17:11,460
Space truckers

2620
02:17:11,460 --> 02:17:17,620
Stone first of all Anthony. Thank you so much. I'm not sure that comment was worth 100 for that

2621
02:17:17,780 --> 02:17:20,180
But to talk is that but that's amazing. Thank you

2622
02:17:20,180 --> 02:17:21,860
um

2623
02:17:21,860 --> 02:17:24,340
I will i'll have a full rant about this probably one day

2624
02:17:24,420 --> 02:17:28,020
But my only my beef is not necessarily that they have squats

2625
02:17:28,740 --> 02:17:35,700
My or like, you know leagues of otan my beef is that it is their artistic style and their law

2626
02:17:36,180 --> 02:17:39,620
Is perhaps the safest drop in the hat i've ever

2627
02:17:40,100 --> 02:17:44,420
Seen in terms of they could have made them crazy i'm talking

2628
02:17:44,980 --> 02:17:47,220
And it didn't have to be like a carbon

2629
02:17:48,020 --> 02:17:49,460
moon copy

2630
02:17:49,460 --> 02:17:54,660
Slash thing of you know, basically a moon version moon suit whatever version of dwarves

2631
02:17:54,740 --> 02:17:57,540
It could have been something way crazier and more exciting

2632
02:17:58,020 --> 02:18:03,060
And my only my only gripe with the leagues of otan is like it wasn't more than what it is. It's

2633
02:18:04,820 --> 02:18:10,980
I like rock and stone we come at that problem for the execs from completely complete opposite angles

2634
02:18:11,220 --> 02:18:15,860
You want more dwarves? I said I want them to be more dwarfie. You want them to be less

2635
02:18:15,860 --> 02:18:22,900
But there's always more dwarfie, but the way they've done it is they've split it between dwarves and another vikingish

2636
02:18:23,620 --> 02:18:26,580
Space wolves knockoff. Yeah, no, it's like

2637
02:18:27,140 --> 02:18:32,820
They've hedged their bets whereas like if they were just like dwarfie just like look at that dwarfie dwarf and he's a dwarfie

2638
02:18:33,940 --> 02:18:38,100
as ai stuff, they never want to be like yeah chunky dwarves, but instead it's

2639
02:18:39,460 --> 02:18:40,980
ai

2640
02:18:40,980 --> 02:18:42,980
simp dwarves

2641
02:18:42,980 --> 02:18:47,220
Uh, I don't know. Yeah, I just I just my only gripe is that it's just not

2642
02:18:47,700 --> 02:18:51,700
Well, I wouldn't want them to be as much like you say like you don't want skaven in walhama 40k

2643
02:18:52,500 --> 02:18:57,380
Like they they are their own. I don't need another skaven. I don't need another dwarf

2644
02:18:58,020 --> 02:19:00,900
walhama fantasy gets dwarves correct

2645
02:19:04,340 --> 02:19:09,460
No, but like that I don't that's like age of sigma already does it fight perfect

2646
02:19:09,460 --> 02:19:13,620
I need to have around two because they've done the whole thing of like oh, they've got ai

2647
02:19:13,860 --> 02:19:18,820
Whereas i'd be like imagine if they were like we're competent at harnessing chaos

2648
02:19:19,060 --> 02:19:23,780
Like we can just in we can just like contain and enslave chaos and an immaterial power

2649
02:19:23,860 --> 02:19:29,620
Like that'd be an interesting thing like oh they're they're icarusing. They're getting a bit too close to like oh we can harness this

2650
02:19:30,100 --> 02:19:33,700
There's a reason we don't harness this whereas ai is just a bit more like

2651
02:19:34,660 --> 02:19:35,780
in it

2652
02:19:35,780 --> 02:19:42,740
They would they would never do that though because then that would be tacitly admitting that the entire horus heresy series was everyone being an idiot

2653
02:19:43,300 --> 02:19:45,300
Yeah, but that's

2654
02:19:48,340 --> 02:19:53,780
You don't know what you're doing you can't safely contain that bludgeon to death that's kind of cj

2655
02:19:54,900 --> 02:19:59,540
Cj kicks books the leagues are just a sci-fi uh fracking company in my eyes

2656
02:19:59,940 --> 02:20:02,900
My head maybe i haven't given them enough thought but that's my vibe

2657
02:20:02,900 --> 02:20:08,180
But antony also puts i run my vote and as all iron kin love them

2658
02:20:08,820 --> 02:20:10,980
Listen, mate, I think if you mate if you enjoy it though

2659
02:20:11,540 --> 02:20:14,820
I don't want to take away from that at all is again like that's the whole point

2660
02:20:14,900 --> 02:20:19,780
I play some factions that you play and they're not like the most competitive or like it's craziest

2661
02:20:19,780 --> 02:20:23,380
But I just like that law and again, I have fun playing them

2662
02:20:23,780 --> 02:20:27,780
And if you're having fun playing it, that's literally all that matters as the rock and stone all the way

2663
02:20:27,860 --> 02:20:31,300
You don't need you don't need to parrot that. No one has to parrot the youtuber's opinion

2664
02:20:31,300 --> 02:20:37,140
Yeah, no, no, we we all have like as much as sometimes our opinions are based and other times they are absolutely trash

2665
02:20:37,620 --> 02:20:42,500
I just last time we're not gonna kill ourselves are always right, but you don't have to have them always

2666
02:20:43,220 --> 02:20:45,220
Always, okay. Okay. Sure

2667
02:20:45,780 --> 02:20:49,460
Always based but sometimes they go in the basement trash

2668
02:20:49,620 --> 02:20:53,380
We should do a tea we should do a tierless video of like just calling opinions in this

2669
02:20:53,940 --> 02:20:58,580
Since i'm like wow this stuff and then just put like this opinion is trash, right?

2670
02:20:58,580 --> 02:21:05,460
But this opinion this opinion is rock and stone and this I uh, I think I should be controlling the stream for that tier list

2671
02:21:06,820 --> 02:21:12,820
We have to measure that last time I could see it on your face how much you wanted to rip like the mouse control from

2672
02:21:12,980 --> 02:21:14,980
And he's in control

2673
02:21:15,300 --> 02:21:17,300
There were a couple times I was looking at it like

2674
02:21:19,140 --> 02:21:22,660
How much it goes to our heads just being in charge of the tierless stream

2675
02:21:23,300 --> 02:21:28,100
Um, which I said the next one we obviously I guess well skaven could be one idea for the next tier stream list

2676
02:21:28,100 --> 02:21:29,620
and um

2677
02:21:29,620 --> 02:21:31,620
Was applying to have these kind of

2678
02:21:31,620 --> 02:21:37,060
Our post podcast slash post tierless streams, which will be doing alternating going forward

2679
02:21:37,060 --> 02:21:41,940
We'll have like this whole hangout session bits after um for people so we get to you know

2680
02:21:41,940 --> 02:21:46,900
Basically, you can ask us anything you want dwarf tier list. I mean, it's just this is gotrek and there's nothing else

2681
02:21:47,300 --> 02:21:50,980
I said that's really tough because hang on now story gotrek

2682
02:21:52,500 --> 02:21:53,780
Barden

2683
02:21:53,780 --> 02:21:58,500
Barden's a real one. I mean, um, that's a quick tier for grim

2684
02:21:59,380 --> 02:22:02,500
I mean the white and iron fist that the promise

2685
02:22:03,060 --> 02:22:05,460
The problem is I think it works as a tierless because they're all

2686
02:22:06,100 --> 02:22:07,540
s here

2687
02:22:07,540 --> 02:22:12,820
There isn't a dwarf wave. There's no there's no bad dwarves. They're all good. Call it name me a mid dwarf

2688
02:22:13,060 --> 02:22:15,060
What who's a mid dwarf?

2689
02:22:15,540 --> 02:22:20,020
I don't think it's possible. There was a dwarf in gotrek and felix who was just a real asshole

2690
02:22:20,020 --> 02:22:24,420
But he's not is it it's just they're all good though all like name other than him. All right

2691
02:22:24,420 --> 02:22:26,420
You know what? You kind of got me on that one

2692
02:22:27,700 --> 02:22:30,260
The whole britannian knights britannian knights

2693
02:22:30,820 --> 02:22:35,540
I don't think we don't do a tier list of britannian knight colin colin will just put all my left

2694
02:22:36,180 --> 02:22:40,340
He couldn't be in charge of that one to be fair. It would actually go absolutely not I there would be

2695
02:22:41,620 --> 02:22:47,220
I would be palpitating this I am the senate. I am the tierless and they're all in am I am the senate

2696
02:22:47,220 --> 02:22:49,220
I am the senate

2697
02:22:50,900 --> 02:22:52,900
Do it uh, we uh

2698
02:22:53,700 --> 02:22:55,700
Say what we're doing next

2699
02:22:55,780 --> 02:22:58,180
Yes, we can actually fax it it leads perfectly on

2700
02:22:59,220 --> 02:23:02,260
We're gonna we'll edit this out by the way for people who are watching

2701
02:23:02,420 --> 02:23:06,500
So only the people who are watching live can know this but um, uh, go ahead colin

2702
02:23:07,300 --> 02:23:09,300
We are are we doing what we were?

2703
02:23:10,660 --> 02:23:13,300
I think we could go for the your the one you want to do next

2704
02:23:13,300 --> 02:23:17,380
Uh wonderful. Well, uh next time everyone we are

2705
02:23:18,260 --> 02:23:21,860
Seeking a good death. Uh, we're gonna do gattrick and felix

2706
02:23:22,820 --> 02:23:24,500
Yes part one

2707
02:23:24,500 --> 02:23:26,500
Part one because there's so much

2708
02:23:26,500 --> 02:23:29,460
Many because we don't know how many we're gonna have to do to cover everything

2709
02:23:29,460 --> 02:23:32,980
So we're gonna do it and there's we're gonna break it down into chunks because we don't know how

2710
02:23:34,100 --> 02:23:37,140
Long it's gonna be so we're like maybe one of 18. We don't know

2711
02:23:37,620 --> 02:23:39,140
It could be a while

2712
02:23:39,140 --> 02:23:44,900
What does noah smith put no smith put no smith put um colin pory mains eng in rock and stone

2713
02:23:44,980 --> 02:23:50,820
I do not main engineer. I main scout if there's a cave leech in the cave. I assure you I will find it

2714
02:23:52,020 --> 02:23:54,180
By having it grab me

2715
02:23:55,620 --> 02:24:00,260
Uh, we will say though. Um, yeah gattrick and felix is coming up we

2716
02:24:01,380 --> 02:24:05,940
I'm very excited this one just but I think andy, you know, tertiary probably a little bit about this

2717
02:24:05,940 --> 02:24:11,860
But for people who are not hundreds of shows, this is also this is from uh, one of fancy the old world the best world

2718
02:24:12,420 --> 02:24:17,460
And this is some like the I mean, it's almost it's not the earliest. Why am I law is it I think or

2719
02:24:18,180 --> 02:24:23,060
Some of the books are pretty old but it's generally some like the best stuff that came out of the old world

2720
02:24:23,860 --> 02:24:27,140
With three for thank thank all my boy my beloved

2721
02:24:28,100 --> 02:24:32,020
I think they with that being said this we're probably gonna wrap the stream up now boys

2722
02:24:32,020 --> 02:24:35,860
Uh, but but someone said bone rippered tier list when

2723
02:24:37,300 --> 02:24:41,140
I also like how we have genesis bock and stone. That's now a thing

2724
02:24:43,140 --> 02:24:46,180
Felix love interest two hours long

2725
02:24:47,860 --> 02:24:51,540
Oh god, um, no race is not possible

2726
02:24:53,220 --> 02:24:55,940
He put himself on that list too, um

2727
02:24:55,940 --> 02:25:02,740
Um today gattrick would be number one though because he's as great as love. Um, the bromance is you know bros before hoes

2728
02:25:03,140 --> 02:25:04,260
uh

2729
02:25:04,260 --> 02:25:10,100
That being said though. Thank you guys so much for watching and listening on. Uh, obviously this will be this will be trimmed up

2730
02:25:10,260 --> 02:25:12,900
uh probably in the next coming days or something like that, so

2731
02:25:14,180 --> 02:25:21,140
for people who watch it live and uh, particularly antony and um, raven I think as well. Thank you so much for the donations

2732
02:25:21,140 --> 02:25:27,300
This is damn. That's a lot. Thank you so much. We didn't I don't know if we deserve that love

2733
02:25:27,460 --> 02:25:31,620
Uh, that's just amazing and we we really appreciate that. That is

2734
02:25:32,980 --> 02:25:34,980
Wow, thank you so much

2735
02:25:35,300 --> 02:25:40,820
and uh, I think that and then the else you guys want to add that really uh, I think it might be it, I mean

2736
02:25:41,620 --> 02:25:46,100
One one thing I'll mention is I've done a video on morty and i've done a video on the death guard

2737
02:25:46,980 --> 02:25:48,260
as a

2738
02:25:48,260 --> 02:25:52,900
Send off to this episode. They're very popular. A lot of people really enjoy the death guard

2739
02:25:53,140 --> 02:25:56,260
They're not my cup of tea personally, but they are pretty cool

2740
02:25:56,820 --> 02:26:03,940
And uh, if you enjoy playing them on tabletop my condolences with the recent nerfs, but otherwise have fun

2741
02:26:04,500 --> 02:26:10,900
Actually a recent buff too, um, I uh, I would like to announce I feel resoundingly indifferent to the death guard

2742
02:26:11,780 --> 02:26:15,460
I don't mind. I like mortarion. I don't dislike them, but just uh

2743
02:26:15,460 --> 02:26:17,460
Yeah

2744
02:26:18,580 --> 02:26:20,180
Uh, keep i am

2745
02:26:20,180 --> 02:26:25,860
Sounds like keep on bock. It sounds like keep on bocking keep on bocking bock boys bock bock

2746
02:26:26,420 --> 02:26:32,660
I uh, i'm very excited to talk about snorri next week snorri nosebiter. The my beloved week

2747
02:26:33,700 --> 02:26:38,180
Oh, yeah. No, no, it'll be two weeks from now, but um weeks two weeks two weeks

2748
02:26:38,500 --> 02:26:44,420
Uh that we said thank you guys so much for listening and that'll be the end of the stream. Thank you guys

2749
02:26:44,420 --> 02:26:47,620
Cheers. Peace. We'll catch you all on the next one for tier lists

2750
02:26:47,620 --> 02:27:13,860
Yeah, like uh, have a good weekend boys You