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One thing that I didn't know about that I thought was really interesting is why they have the red hand.

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Now, me being me and thinking everything is a big joke, I honestly thought it was just an

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in poor taste translation of the fact that Rogel Dorn's hand was the only thing they found,

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and they thought it would be funny.

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Look, it's the primal's hand.

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Yeah, it just said it comes in fist.

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The original practice actually, allegedly, comes from when the Primarch would apparently,

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when greeting very respectful members of the chapter, he would cut his palm or his wrist or

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something like that, and they would do the same.

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They would shake hands and they'd get a little bit of a contact high from Primarch juice because

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it's just like that's what happened.

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Forgive me for saying this.

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Is this like the feet pitches of space?

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It's the same amount of disgust.

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So contact high.

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I'm so sorry.

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What are you talking about?

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Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Beginner to Expert podcast, where we talk about

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from the overarching newbie guide to a faction or part of the Warhammer universe to the nitty-gritty

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essential details that only nerds like us would appreciate.

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And today, I'm afraid Colin is away.

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He's doing some kind of social gathering or some such.

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I don't know.

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I don't go outside, but he's into Warhammer.

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He doesn't have to go outside.

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His reprise will be swift.

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Why are we lying to ourselves?

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But because Colin is away, we've got a special guest today.

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Drum roll, please.

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You may know him as Arthur, but he's got a dirty little secret.

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But today, we are welcoming Arthur Bones.

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Mr. Bones.

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Hi, everyone.

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Yes, I'm Arthur Bones, as you all would know from my YouTube channel, Mr. Bones40k.

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Fun fact, the truth to do in fact come out.

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My real name isn't actually Arthur or Bones.

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It's Connor.

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Fat lie.

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That is a fat lie.

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We are contractually obliged to kick you off of Lawcrams instantly for this absolute heresy of

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pretending to be someone called Arthur.

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We can't have it.

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We can't have it.

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It's almost a Lawcrime and fraud, essentially.

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He's been on a tear recently with his videos and thought he'd be a good candidate.

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So I asked him on and he's been very nice to oblige us.

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And what are we covering today, Arthur?

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The Crimson Fists, aka the Ultramarines of the Emerial Fists.

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They're one of the really old ones.

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It's been around for a while.

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But with that being said, I think before we start today's episode,

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I think it is time for the Question of the Week.

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And so, boys, we have the Question of the Week.

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Thank you so much for your answers, ladies and gentlemen.

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Last week's question was, you want to sabotage the hive mind.

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What do you feed it?

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Hashtag tummy ache.

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Now, some of these were pretty good.

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I'm not going to lie.

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Some of them were pretty Colin directed.

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Some reason, yeah.

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Let him hear for it.

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We should also mention that Colin is just here for now as a time.

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Yeah, he's here to join us so we can give him a few roasts.

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Should mention there was some Avery Johnson, but that didn't quite make the cut

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because we're starting off with at double deputy 4242 hashtag tummy ache.

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I feed the hive mind all of Colin's Eldar tabletop.

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I hate you.

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Those are mine.

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Oh, you can find them anywhere.

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They're still all of the same 50 year old models.

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Stop taking mine.

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Why did I just think of Colin going, this is an Eldar and this is mine.

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This is mine.

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You can feed him your striking scorpions.

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Oh, wait.

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I settle down now.

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All right.

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Senior pirate stand player in the planet.

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Yes.

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The one in the iron digit then had.

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We got all the iron head.

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So it's all gone.

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Fair as he is.

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All rated.

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Speak.

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I've got a bit of a theme for the next few ones, though, boys.

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At Tristan Wood, 1308, he put hashtag tummy ache.

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Feed them some proper English cuisine.

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After loading up that plate with a course of chip buddy and mucky dripping.

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Why leave the galaxy in all of his majesty's great nation and superior palette.

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Now, mucky, mucky, mucky, that's awful.

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I'm all gonna lie. I don't even know what that is.

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It's worse if you say it in a norther night.

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It's like mucky dripping.

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Good.

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I might be curry and chip.

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I'm not the finest of mucky chips.

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Or grand gravy and chips, sorry.

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Sounds like Andy.

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Was it good with them?

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It sounds less like they're trying to describe food and more like they're trying to curse us.

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It does hit with a pretty.

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Now, this is not one of the actual hashtag answers, but someone's hit this theme right on the head.

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And I think Andy probably knows this because Tristan again comes out with a day in the life of a true vik

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Vikkisa, wake up and meet the hype tyrant Susan.

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My little Rippersworn.

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Isn't she beautiful?

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Time to take the gene stealer to an infected hive world.

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Rev up the hive fleet.

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Yeah.

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Quick stop at Ultramar and light up that plate.

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Get a smurf.

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Halfway.

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McCracken looking lovely today, lads.

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Just a bit of banter.

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Old one eye makes a 38 to 0.

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Lost banter.

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Pop down local system.

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Good old biomass.

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Look at that.

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Hyve Tyrant made Susan.

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Sorry, Hyve Tyrant Susan made dinner.

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Lovely.

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Pop down, have a couple of genes get a cultist with the lads and finish up in the bio pool of the bee.

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A pool of dreams.

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Nice.

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So good, dude.

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Classic.

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Bless you.

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We do appreciate how much time that would have taken to write and to think about.

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So bless you.

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Thank you, Tristan.

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God to your meme.

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We appreciate that.

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But speaking of something a bit more on topic clearly,

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hashtag Tom Yake by Yellow White 42.

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The Tyrant is losing all sense of taste after devouring the ancient Tyrant dishes known as British food.

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Becoming unable to distinguish good flavour and forever being tied down to bland biomass.

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There's a bit of a war as you can see in the comments.

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Yeah, month long war.

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For the boys.

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Pasties are great.

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Oh, we had to explain to the boys what pasties are.

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And we still haven't quite got it yet.

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Which is.

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It looks good.

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I mean, there's a bit of a patty while you don't eat traditionally as well.

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Which is like, is it the horn?

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Yeah, I suppose.

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Because usually when you have a pasty you go, oh, it's a bit stiff.

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It's like a calzone.

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But then it's like with fluffy, like fluffy pastry.

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What's the one called?

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Like flaky pastry.

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I mean, imagine you're sending a letter and the letter contains mince meat.

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And the letter is edible.

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That's basically a pasty.

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No, that's not it.

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Yeah.

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You guys have that.

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You have that and fish and chips.

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And those are your good food.

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That's all we're allowed.

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Okay.

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What's the iconic Canadian version of like that stuff?

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Oh, God.

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What?

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Protein.

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There we go.

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Protein, babe.

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What is protein?

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Chips, cheese and gravy.

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That's what we call it.

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Cheese curds.

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Cheese curds.

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They're delicious.

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It's fried cheese.

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Yeah.

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Cheese then.

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Yummy, yummy.

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What's it called?

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Tell me.

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Tell me.

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Oh, what's that?

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Amazing cheese. That's amazing to wrap bacon in.

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Oh, come over.

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Halloumi.

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Halloumi.

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I know what you're talking about.

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Halloumi.

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Oh, yeah.

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This is, you can tell we're very hungry.

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What was making this episode?

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We also have food from all around the world.

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Got lots of tasty Japanese food where I live.

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Are you on a, I mean, to fact, maybe the, was it Poutine?

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Is what the guy called, Mucky Dripping?

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I know, probably ruined that.

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Oh, I mean, you say that.

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Eli, have you ever tried dragon fruit?

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That's pretty cool.

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Yes.

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Mmm.

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That is pretty good.

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Oh, you're lucky bastard.

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We're speaking of something a bit more on theme for today's episode.

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We've got the next question of the week, and that is,

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you can punch anyone in the face in the Warhammer universe.

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Fantasy or 40K doesn't matter.

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We all specify now.

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We know you're going to put Erebus.

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So we prefer maybe one or two people if you want to put Erebus, but you can be anyone.

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It could be, I think I had an earlier thing about, um,

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Wolfric the Wanderer just needs to, I mean, punch that bird tongue right out of his mouth.

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Why not?

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He deserves it.

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And, um, so who do you punch and why?

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And the hashtag is, Andy, I can't believe you've done this.

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Hashtag insisting on a fist in, um, please don't misspell that because you will,

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definitely get the wrong hashtag.

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You'll probably end up somewhere dark on the internet.

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And, um, with that being said, though, we will start with the beginner section.

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Okay.

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And with all that done, some very good comments.

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I believe today we're going to be covering the Crimson Fist with the beginner section.

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It's going to be our first.

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So, uh, I will be covering the expert section later on, but with all that said,

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Arthur, would you like to, to talk about the successors of Rogold Dawn, the Crimson Fists?

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Crimson for a fist in, sorry.

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I can't help it.

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No, I know the groans.

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Oh, I'm ready for it.

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My body is ready.

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My body is ready.

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It's a red type of podcast.

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So yes, Crimson Fists.

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It's one of those chapters that are very, this anonymous with 40K, the one of the oldest

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chapters in the literature as well as in like the promotional material from my understanding.

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And that for the most part, for the longest time, all I knew about them.

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So I did do a little bit of research and the rough summation of what I came up with was,

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um, second founding way, way back when, when the, um, the, the Imperial Fists were convinced,

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and by Imperial Fists, I mean, Rogold Dawn convinced into breaking up the Legion into

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other smaller chapters.

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I think there were only five or so that we know of that.

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Um, second founding.

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Black Templars, Crimson Fists.

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Uh, Fists Excellencars.

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Soul drinkers.

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Soul drinkers, baby.

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Maybe the Soul drinkers.

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Uh, I believe.

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Yeah.

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I know the Exkoriators are there.

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An execution is a first founding.

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Yeah.

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There we go.

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Because they have a weird, yeah.

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But, um, their first chapter master, I haven't gotten that far in the Horus Heresy.

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All I know him as is, uh, Alexis Big Man Pollux.

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Absolutely.

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Chad, by the way.

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Absolutely.

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Chad.

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Absolutely.

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Uh, but, yeah, uh, he was, uh, fresh off the death of his heteromantic life partner,

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Barabas Dantioch, and put in charge of the Crimson Fists, leading them to have one of

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the longest lasting legacies of any real chapter of space marines.

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Second founding chapters tend to either peter out and be nothing, uh, like, good example,

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something I covered a little while ago called the Marauders.

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Yep.

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A paragraph of lore.

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That's it.

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Or the Crimson Fists, and they have, like, 30 books dedicated to them.

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So, um, there's a lot of lore to the Crimson Fists.

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So, an interesting fact that they started off as a fleet-based chapter, you know, doing

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the things that fleet-based chapters do.

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Eventually, they ended up on a, um, pretty interesting world named Ryn's World, uh, on

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a location known as the Hellblade Mountain, which is next to Lake Ryn, near New Ryn City,

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on the province of Rynland.

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On the Magic Ring.

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On the Magic Ring.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, because, uh, I guess GW can't help themselves sometime.

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And yeah, uh, do pay attention, because the Hellblade Mountains is gonna come back later

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when Ryn's World had a bit of a-

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A bit spicy.

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A bit of a spicy time.

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Yeah.

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Um, culture-wise, they are a bit of an odd mix of ultramarine practices and the culture

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of a Imperial Fist.

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They're very stoic, they're very stern, very much into the traditions of what could be

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considered a space marine.

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You're gonna notice that if you read about these guys, they have, they're like the Space

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Marine chapter of all time.

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They are the most space mariney space marine.

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Everything you think a space marine should do in any sec- like any situation, they do

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it.

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They did not see the Codex of Sistatis as a paperweight.

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They actually thought, hey, maybe something was good about this book.

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They follow it with, you know, 10 companies scout at the 10th, first company being the

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elites, first company being called the Crusade Company, for reasons I am probably are related

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to Sigismund, but probably not.

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I, something I'm not familiar with.

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Yeah, they are just a nice blended smoothie of blueberries and bananas when it comes to

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the creation of their chapter.

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And yeah, right.

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The one thing that I didn't know about that I thought was really interesting is why they

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have the red hand.

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Now me being me and thinking everything is a big joke, I honestly thought it was just

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an in poor taste translation of the fact that Rogel Dorn's hand was the only thing they

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found and they thought it would be funny.

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It's the primal hand.

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Yeah, it comes in the face.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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The original practice actually, allegedly, comes from when the Primarch would apparently,

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when greeting very respectful members of the chapter he would cut his palm or his wrist

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or something like that.

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And they would do the same.

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They would shake hands and they'd get a little bit of a contact high from Primarch juice

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because it's just like that's what's happening.

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Forgive me for saying this.

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Is this like the feet pictures of space?

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You know what I mean?

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I don't know how.

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Please, what?

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What you mean?

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It's the same amount of disgust.

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You know what I mean?

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Keep going.

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So contact high.

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I'm so sorry.

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What are you talking about?

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That's the universe.

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That is definitely the internet.

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Yeah.

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Maybe they like it.

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Oh, God, we ruined it.

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We ruined it.

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Could be their thing.

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OK.

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But yeah, if I remember, specific elite members of their chapter have both gauntlets covered

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in the red with their regular armor color than being that azure blue, which is again

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very ultramarine, but slightly darker.

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Current day chapter itself is the pardon my language, completely 100% Fox.

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Just absolutely.

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Oh, it's horrible.

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We're going to cover that one.

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That one's pretty fun.

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But yeah, I think after a certain Kododo whoopsie doodles happened at Ryn's world.

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Yeah, right?

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Someone had the drop seas that day.

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They didn't have the Roobsie doodles.

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I have done an oof.

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It's like, I think in one fell swoop during a very specific event that I am obviously

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teasing, they lost, I think, over 600 Marines.

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Everybody loves the Lamentors, but they always forget about the Crimson Fists for sad folks.

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Where was Space Marine health and safety when you needed it?

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I wonder if they have a safety guide.

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I just like the orange of Space Marine.

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A Space Marine instead of using the normal helmet, he's got like an Astartes hard hat

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and it's yellow.

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Oh, that is brother Phidius.

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He is a health and safety officer.

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He's like, yeah, yeah, just like he doesn't go into combat.

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I'm not going to take that much.

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He runs into charge, charges into battle with a clipboard and things like.

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Excuse me.

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Yeah.

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Essentially, most of their armor is basically high-vist anyway at this point.

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So yeah.

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So just like the idea that he's like a chapter is going out to do like war and he's just

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there have a bunch of cones putting them around the battlefield like civilian, do not cross

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this border.

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There's currently dangerous things going on.

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There's like explosions behind him.

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Very ultramarine.

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Yeah, it does sound like something that would have come out of the Ultima founding, you

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know, the Marines OSHA.

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Like ultramarine players would definitely do, yes, I'm calling you guys out, all three

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of you.

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Those who are listening, I don't get hate for that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Current day, they're trying to reclaim what they lost during the Ryn's World issues that

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were happening.

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They got reinforcements from the Ultima founding and because of that, they're kind of in a weird

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spot because of what happened on Ryn's World, which I'll cover in a second, I guess.

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They have like this cast of like first born Marines that are like the most grizzled but

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like really, really twitchy Marines that you could possibly have meeting these like fresh

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recruits who have like that good, good Bellisarius call goop in them.

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That's like super peppy and happy all the time.

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I remember reading a short story to give like a good perspective of what that is and it's

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like it was one absolutely bananas, Crimson Fist, first born Marine who was setting up

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to like Snipe Orcs and the guys that were training under him because they're trying

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to teach them the ways of the Crimson Fists.

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He was a Ultima founding guy, primary Hirst Marine was right next to him.

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He's like, so where's your sniper rifle?

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He's right here, pulls out a heavy bolter and he's like, but excuse me.

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That's, this is illegal.

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The Codex of Stardice does not support this action.

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Yeah.

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So you want me to go into what exactly happened in Ryn's World?

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I'd say before we go, because that's the juicy bit.

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I think if that's more or less the overview of the whole thing, I want to go back to where

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everything started with Alexis.

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I was going to bring up Pedro Cantor and Alessio Cortez sort of, but I can do that afterwards

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if you want to go into it.

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It'd be nice as well.

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I'll mention them now.

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I'll probably mention them a little bit at the end, but that's about it.

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Fantastic.

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Well, I just said their names.

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They're pretty prominent figures.

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I have full stop.

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I had never heard of Alessio Cortez until I read the book Ryn's World because I'm done

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like that, I guess, but first name that you should probably recognize.

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Most people in 40K who actually play the game have seen Pedro Cantor's model and at least

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heard the name because he's kind of a popular character on the tabletop to some degree.

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I know a lot of people who are making their own like homebrews right now and like a lot

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of places on the guy, but Pedro Cantor is the current chapter master of the Imperial

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Fists.

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And as much as I give JW shit for, you know, New Ryn City being in Rynland on Ryn's World,

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they had the restraint of not calling his melee weapon the Crimson Fist.

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They didn't call it that.

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Good on them.

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Yeah, I was surprised at that.

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It's just a regular power fist.

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His weapon.

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There's like no special one.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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His special weapon is a probably stolen from a Grey Knight combi-bolter that's attached

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to his wrist called Dorn's Arrow.

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It's cute, but he's current day chapter master.

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He has a lot of reverence for the old chapter masters, but he's also very interesting character,

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very pragmatic, realist.

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And I found him throughout the readings that I was going through and like all the research

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just be kind of a chill guy and acknowledges the failings of like past chapter masters

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as well as like realizing how he can be better as a person.

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Very humorous.

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Cool guy.

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Very humorous space friend, which I think is very.

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Yeah.

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It's one of the few times you actually see in Warhammer lore where he actually tries

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to inspire hope in not just, you know, brothers, they actually inspire hope in regular human

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beings, which is kind of a, it's a nice part that it's in the Crimson Fist novels.

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Cause again, it's, it's nice that it's there.

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So it shows that them is like a contrasting space screen chapter compared to all the other,

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particularly the Black Templars, which obviously same lineage, but definitely they have the

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same feelings towards civilians slash obstacles as they might not shouting.

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So, you know, not always.

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Speed bumps, if you will.

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And then we have the other character that I mentioned that I didn't know much about.

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And I still don't know as much as I wish I did, but it's Alessio Cortez.

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I have no idea what he's the captain of now because again, most of the Marines are dead.

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So there's not many companies.

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If I remember correctly, the captain of the fourth company originally.

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Perfect.

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Known for being the hardest to kill motherfucker in the entire chapter.

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For some reason he could go up against war bosses, he's here in a hive tire and greater

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demons and for some reason, even if he's just like a peramecium sized cell, he'll climb

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his way back and they'll just like your

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He's also a nice, he's the contrast to what all the other

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Crimson Fist are because he's quite a bit more what you think is traditional space.

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He's a bit more, the enemy is the target, everything else is kind of in the way.

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Basically achieve the mission at all costs.

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And I think Cortez is the one who when he speaks to Pedro Cantor, because they were

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together, they were both in the same company.

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They grew up or not grew up, but basically fought together most of their life.

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And then there's like that really good scene where Pedro is obviously like trying to defend

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civilians and then Cortez is going, but that will slow us down.

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And they kind of have a moment like why did what changed between us?

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You know what I mean?

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Cortez is a kind of, I don't know if they say the writers use him as like a jumping block

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for, you know, basically, is he like the Luigi to Cantor's La Mario?

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I imagine it's like, it's viewed in that sort of same way where he's meant to in the

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sort of story of the Crimson Fist, he's meant to be the contrast to all the good boys.

480
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You know what I mean?

481
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But they need both of them to sort of help the chapter survive.

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And they'll cover them a little bit at the end.

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So that'll be good fun.

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It's good, it's good writing, really good writing in that book.

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Rinsworld, if anyone should pick that up.

486
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Oh, God, it's so good.

487
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Pretty good.

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Yeah.

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But yeah, that's all I know about Alessio Cortez.

490
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He has a pretty hard nickname.

491
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I think they just refer to him as the immortal.

492
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Oh, that goes hard.

493
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:47,680
It's kind of good.

494
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It's a good name.

495
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But yeah, I know if you want to start talking about Alexis Pollux, you have the floor.

496
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So it's time for some Horus, Heresy Boys.

497
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It's my wheelhouse.

498
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Yeah, classic.

499
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Let's go.

500
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Let's go.

501
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So let's go all the way back to the beginning of the Imperial Fists Legion.

502
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Now everyone loves our yellow lads in Parama, but during the Horus, Heresy, there were a

503
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,560
notable few captains you might already know about.

504
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,880
Everyone knows about Sigismund, the first captain.

505
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:26,600
You've got M'Fafnir Ran, who was the first high executioner of the Executioner's Chapter,

506
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,280
and he had the twin axes.

507
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,280
And there's another chap called Alexis Pollux.

508
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:36,120
Now Alexis Pollux was the captain of the 405th Company of the Imperial Fists Legion, and

509
00:26:36,120 --> 00:26:39,160
he was originally born on Inwit.

510
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:44,240
When he was going through the trials to become an Imperial Fist, he had a brother.

511
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,680
If I can remember his name.

512
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:48,680
Can you help me here?

513
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,480
I think it also begins with an A, isn't it?

514
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,320
Or a H. They have quite similar names.

515
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:56,320
Yeah.

516
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:57,480
But he's like, is it twin brother?

517
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,720
Yes, it's like a twin brother and he's massive.

518
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,280
And is it like Elias?

519
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,280
Elias?

520
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,720
Oh, Elias with a H.

521
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:07,720
Yes, it's a silent H.

522
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,560
Yeah, so yeah, it's Elias and Alexis.

523
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:16,080
And the two of them both went through the trials to become a Space Moon on Inwit, which

524
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,080
is pretty harsh.

525
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:22,960
You basically have to like wander Inwit's icy planet surface with just some like barely

526
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:27,480
rags on your back and no real supplies while there's massive monsters trying to cut you

527
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,960
down all the way through.

528
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,880
And during the trials, his brother was killed, big sad.

529
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:34,880
There's a point where...

530
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:35,880
Oh, it's awful.

531
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:36,880
It's awful.

532
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,600
It's like, it's like, it's only like the opening minutes of the...

533
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,840
I know that book you're referring to and it's so sad.

534
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,080
It's like the opening bit and it's like, God damn it.

535
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:49,280
Because there's a bit where Alexis gets wounded by this massive creature and then Elias kind

536
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,680
of gets between him and the monster and saves his life.

537
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:56,720
But he coaxes it to like the precipice of a mountain and then the beast jumps over and

538
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,720
it dashes itself into the abyss below.

539
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,240
And like Alexis grabs his brother's hand and he can't hold on because he's really badly

540
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:08,400
injured and his grip is slipping and he's like, just let go when he lets him go and then

541
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,160
he makes it back to the chapter monastery, but his brother's dead.

542
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,200
But it's like, chin up, Alexis, you're an imperial fist now.

543
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,200
And he's like, great.

544
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:25,760
There's a slight hint in that story as well, which is Alexis' hand is all injured and mangled,

545
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,760
obviously bleeding reds, it's all red fist.

546
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:33,320
And then when they look, he's holding on to his brother, but then his brother looks up

547
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,920
like from basically about to fall off and he realizes like, actually Alexis isn't holding

548
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,200
on because his hand is all screwed up.

549
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,200
It's actually his brother.

550
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,600
And they realize if he holds on any longer, he's going to basically drag him down with

551
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:45,600
him.

552
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:46,600
So his brother actually lets go.

553
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:47,600
Oh no.

554
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,080
Very sad, holy.

555
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,080
Yeah.

556
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,600
It's worth pointing out as well, these two are chunk.

557
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,200
They are massive, even for like normal guys.

558
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,920
So when Alexis became a space marine, he became thick.

559
00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:06,520
I mean, you might have seen the artwork of him on, what's the planet called, sofa.

560
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:11,440
And he's just got like this massive power fist and he's like, he's like, he's like retunned

561
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:12,440
almost.

562
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:13,440
He's like circular.

563
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:18,520
I like, I like Mama Rees, retunned, circular and dense and thick.

564
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:23,720
And he is like, he is like pre-tiberos, the red wake, like massive dude.

565
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,080
Yes, and it's cool.

566
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,320
It's built like a mural.

567
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:28,320
But there's that bit.

568
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:33,000
I don't know if you're going to mention it, the bit with Gilliman yet, Andy, about height

569
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,000
stuff.

570
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,000
Go for it.

571
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,000
I don't know if you wanted to.

572
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,720
Oh, Gilliman said he was unnerved by Pollux because he's the only space marine who looked

573
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:40,720
him in the eye.

574
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:41,720
At eye level.

575
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:42,720
What's going on?

576
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:47,200
He's just like, don't, we're feeding him.

577
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,440
Pollux had to have custom armor made a lot of the time because he didn't fit into regular

578
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:52,440
space marine armor.

579
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,860
And again, it's like, he's like, he's not.

580
00:29:54,860 --> 00:29:57,680
And it's like, it's like a rockfish.

581
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,360
You're like, what, I can't believe you're so good.

582
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,400
Absolutely gineormous space marine.

583
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:03,400
It's always interesting.

584
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,480
There's like a few of massive, there's like him, there's Arjak Rockfish, there's Tiberos,

585
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:08,480
the red wake.

586
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:13,760
And there's just like, we just like, occasionally a chunky boy, and they're good fun in the

587
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:14,760
law.

588
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:19,120
Um, but yeah, chunky boy was really well respected by Rogaldorn.

589
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:28,480
Horace did the big heresy. Rogaldorne was like, this is bullshit. Right, I'm going to send

590
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:34,480
like a good third of the legion over to Istvan and we're going to punch his face in and we'll be done

591
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,960
with it straight away. He's barely reeling from killing his own men, we'll sort him out. So he

592
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,880
sends a retribution fleet and originally he goes, Sigismund, can you lead the fleet? And Sigismund

593
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:51,120
is going through his own thing and he's like, so he stays on terror and Pollux goes under the command

594
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:58,160
of Captain Yonad. Now, bear in mind a third of the legion is like, I think it's something like 30,000.

595
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:03,040
I think it's 30,000 the starties are sent to just beat up the traitors while they're weak.

596
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,640
And they traverse through the warp and unfortunately, at this point, they don't really know the warp is

597
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:17,440
full of demons and stuff. And the chaos powers just completely ruin their trip. They get out of

598
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,280
the warp and they've lost a good chunk, they've lost like thousands of men already. Some of their

599
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:27,600
ships have torn apart, some of them are scattered about. And Captain Yonad is dead. So Alexis is

600
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:32,880
like, oh, shit, okay. Well, I was, he was my mentor. He was like the one who taught me pretty

601
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:39,680
much most of my current day skills as a naval tactician. I guess I'm in charge. And the other

602
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,920
starties are like, oh, he's not the oldest, he's like a bit young. But they go, okay, but he's

603
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,880
well trusted by dawn, we'll let him lead our men. So for a few months, he's just, you know,

604
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,400
assembling the fleet, making sure it's it's going well. And he's like, we're not going to go to

605
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,320
Istvan. If we go to Istvan now, we're just going to get dashed against the rocks, we need to be

606
00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:02,400
smart about this. Let's fortify the file system we're in. We'll make sure we got all the resources

607
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,880
from our broken up fleet. And then when we're ready, we'll go out and we'll attack. And a lot of his

608
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:11,280
advisors are like, no, you're pussy, go and fight Horace. I was like, no, no, no, no, I'm gonna,

609
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:17,760
I'm gonna defend. And so he said, like, lots of the ship contingents to like, do drills. He like,

610
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,480
he said, we're not just going to take a holiday, we're going to drill, we're going to practice,

611
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:26,640
we're going to make sure we are an absolute like mechanized cog of a machine, where every moving

612
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,320
part works exactly as it should, because we're going to practice every single day for several

613
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:37,520
months. And it's a good thing he did. Because there's a guy called Pertorabo, might have heard of him,

614
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:42,560
he's a Primark of the fourth legion, the iron warriors. Big fan, big fan, big fan, siege, siege,

615
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:47,680
siege, siege, fortify, siege, fortify. People in the chat need to put siege fortify, siege fortify.

616
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:53,200
Well, it's a thing Horace was like, Oh, I know they're on the way. Perti, you haven't taken any

617
00:32:53,200 --> 00:33:00,800
losses. Before István five, could you send like, could you go and like, sort out the art of the

618
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,400
Imperial Fist? We know you've got a chip on your shoulder against the yellow boys, go and get them.

619
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:12,400
So Pertorabo personally leads a fleet to Fahl. And he's, he's on his massive gloriaana class ship.

620
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:17,040
And he's got all these vessels, and they attack the Imperial Fist. And at first it's not going

621
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:21,680
well. Alexis is like, what the deuce and all their like, ships are getting broken, he's having a bad

622
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:26,480
time. But he's like, remember your treat, he does that like me like, remember your training. And then

623
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,400
all the Imperial Fists are like, okay, okay, okay, fortify, fortify, fortify, they like, all the

624
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,320
comms are just saying fortify, fortify, fortify, and then there's one I'm working. So he's just like,

625
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:43,440
no fortify. And basically, somehow, Alexis Pollock's repels a Primark from the Fahl system. He goes,

626
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:48,960
Perti, up your game skill issue. We were ready for you. We're going to kick you out now.

627
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:54,480
He was an absolute unit. But he was also an absolute genius when it came to a naval warfare.

628
00:33:55,200 --> 00:34:00,400
And his planning was, was the saving, like everyone goes about like, Rabute's skill was

629
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:05,600
logistics. Pollock's it was being well prepared, doing his revision, making his homework, making

630
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,440
sure his homework is in on time and no late fees. It's like, yeah, good lad.

631
00:34:10,720 --> 00:34:17,440
It's a weird discrepancy part, in terms of like, no, as in the, not as in the law's wrong, but in

632
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:22,880
terms of the traitors, what they believe should be happening, like the scrying and the fates,

633
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:29,440
because technically, Sigismund should have been there. That was the whole original,

634
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,480
like thread of fate, like something changed fate. So Sigismund wasn't there. So when Perti

635
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:39,440
Rabbe was sending his fleet, he's like, Oh, I know Sigismund, he's like all out attack. So when

636
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:46,640
he designed their attack, like Perti was attacked to this imperial fist fleet, it was all designed

637
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:52,960
around that move. So when he came to a fortified position in a defensive formation, it was like,

638
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:58,000
Oh, this isn't normal. So there was Perti Rabbe was confused, like where's Sigismund? Like

639
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,560
Sigismund is not here. Like what? Where's Sigismund?

640
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:06,640
To do portrayable dirty dude. This and to learn, like, come on. Give him one win, please.

641
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,240
I agree. Don't, don't.

642
00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:11,920
He doesn't have a win. He beats Angron, like a demon.

643
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:17,920
Iron cage makes up for it kind of. And he beats up Fulgrim once.

644
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:18,720
Yeah. Yeah.

645
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:20,240
Yeah. You're going to make Eli upset. He's going to cry.

646
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,680
Whatever, man. Fulgrim. Fulgrim's great.

647
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,760
I've been, you got like Gleamon Rust out one time. You got Fulgrim's one of the few

648
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,040
Primarchs that has a killed down though, in terms of other Primarchs.

649
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,520
Fulgrim's awesome. What do you mean? He beats, he beat Ferris Manus and

650
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,440
Gilliman. Yeah. He actually technically killed Gilliman.

651
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,360
He killed Gilliman. He beat Rogold Dorne in theory because Rogold Dorne said he was going to lose.

652
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,440
Even Fulgrim just left though because the writers couldn't have him doing something cool.

653
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,320
He did big betray against Morgaw. He was like, hey, screw you. I like Horace.

654
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,480
He's like, oh, I wanted to be world master.

655
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,480
Fulgrim has his moments. Yeah.

656
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,080
He's better than Mortarian. Like, come on.

657
00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:01,440
Mortarian does nothing but take L's the entire heresy.

658
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:02,720
Yeah. And he stinks.

659
00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:07,600
And then gets his, then gets a name carved on his heart by some guy who's not even a grand master yet.

660
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:14,400
Who likes tangerines. I love, I love Trigger. I love the girl.

661
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,800
But anyway, back with Pollux.

662
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:24,800
So with the foul system repelling the traitors, Alexis is like, right, we're definitely not going to

663
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,960
his farm now. There's no point. We've already taken losses and we've repelled the iron warriors.

664
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,800
Let's go back to Holy Terror. So they try to go back to Terror to reinforce the

665
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,960
throne world under orders from Rogold Dorne because he says, Oi, get your ass back here.

666
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,400
We need you. But oh, wait, I thought, I thought Pertorabo won.

667
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,720
Well, it's like Rogold Dorne's like, you need to get back to Holy Terror.

668
00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:47,360
And Pertorabo was like, I'll get you.

669
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,280
Yeah. They were, the fists were winning. They were winning.

670
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:56,160
No, they, in the end of the book, they're about to, like Pertorabo's losing.

671
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,840
And then the call from Dorne breaches the warp. Like everyone get back to Terror.

672
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:07,360
And then immediately Pollux does that dumb thing where it's like, we have the orders absolute.

673
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,760
So even though they're winning, they start to retreat.

674
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:14,320
And then they take loads of losses and they're like, we were losing.

675
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,720
Why did, but then it just felt weird.

676
00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:20,320
I was like, well, I won that one. It's like, oh, you're the worst Pertorabo. Shut up.

677
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:27,280
It's like when you're on the, on the tube or a train or something and someone just starts talking

678
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:32,320
really loud on their phone, that's a bit of the same vibe. It's like, I can hear everything.

679
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:37,360
Oh, so awkward. So, so yeah, like quote, the iron warriors won, but they didn't really,

680
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,520
because they were like skill issue, we're out peace. And then the imperial office left.

681
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,720
So they try to get back to Terror, but unfortunately more Warp shenanigans,

682
00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:51,040
they can't get to Holy Terror. So they go to the next best place, which is McCrag.

683
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:56,720
And upon arriving at McCrag, they realize, oh, there's like, there's some weird stuff going on here.

684
00:37:56,720 --> 00:38:00,800
The Ultramarines are, you know, meeting up with the Dark Angels and the Blood Angels.

685
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,440
And there's like some weird, there's like a couple of white scars in the space.

686
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,840
Well, so this is weird. Oh, and Ironhands. My beloved, don't forget.

687
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:13,520
Philip and like, yeah, they're like, yeah. Yeah. Sorry, Connor, where's the old video in Ironhands?

688
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:20,880
Yeah. Where is it? Why have you not told about my beloved Ironhands yet on your channel?

689
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,760
He has. We need, oh, we have, I missed that one.

690
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,680
He has. He's done all those. I've watched that. Embarrassing. Oh, I'm embarrassed now.

691
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,600
Because I was enjoying your signs at the size of the Emperor.

692
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,920
One, two, because they need more love. Love me, jeez, Steelers.

693
00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:39,680
Yeah. Wait a second. People want to talk about Ironhands, please.

694
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,280
You have to be the man, Halley. You have to be the champion.

695
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,320
I know. I've made some Ironhands shorts in the last month.

696
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,160
I'm derailing. Sorry, continue, Andy.

697
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:55,600
Before I continue, I will say I've done a fair bit of Ironhands stuff, but I am running low on Ironhands stuff now.

698
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:05,760
Oh, pain. Yeah, actually, very real. They need more love. Because they can be really cool.

699
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:11,600
The trifecta is Salamanders, Ravengard and Ironhands is like, there's not all that much left to talk about.

700
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,800
Even though half of them died. Yeah.

701
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:21,120
But anyway, so they get to McCrag and they're like, oh, there's some Imperium Secundus down in here.

702
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:26,400
This is interesting. And basically, being the logistics master here,

703
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,840
Rebuta is like, hmm, Imperial Fists, they're good at sound castles. Right.

704
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:35,440
Pollux, come here. I've got this project in the works. Now, don't be upset.

705
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:40,400
I know you've just been fighting the Iron Warriors, but I've got this guy in charge of it.

706
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:45,680
And his name is Baribas, and he's kind of an Iron Warrior. Don't freak out. Don't freak out.

707
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:51,760
He's a chill dude. He doesn't like his dad. He's run away from home. And he's a good boy.

708
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:57,280
Now, he's over on this planet called Sofa, all the way over there in the galaxy.

709
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,520
And somehow he's found this device called the Pharros device. He's communicating with us.

710
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:07,440
And it's really cool. We can basically communicate with it. But also, there's possibly the potential we can start like

711
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,440
teleporting materials. And I don't need to tell you, you've just been through the ruin storm.

712
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:16,400
It's really hard to get to Holy Terror. If we can use this properly, it won't be a problem with supply lines.

713
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:21,440
We can just get stuff transported to us in a click of your fingers and everything will be lovely.

714
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:27,440
And he's like, I don't like Iron Warriors. I know you don't like Iron Warriors. Just calm down. Just chill. Daddy chill.

715
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,440
He said while looking into his eyes at the same height level and feeling unknown.

716
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:37,440
It's also a second National Maconte. Yeah. And it's also a beacon for people to find Macragh, which is good.

717
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:45,440
Which is why so many loyalists from various legions were like, oh, Macragh. Oh, they've got champagne. Nice.

718
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,440
And that's how loads of them managed to get there in such an eclectic bunch.

719
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,440
But basically, he's like, fine, I'll work with the smelly Iron Warrior.

720
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,440
And he starts working with Baribas. And he actually turns out to be a really nice chap.

721
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:07,440
Those of you who don't know, Baribas Dantioch was an Iron War Smith or War Smith of the Iron Warriors who defected from the Iron Warriors because he's a Chad.

722
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:17,440
He blew up the Shardonhold where he was stationed. He survived fighting the Harud species and was like aged several thousand, I think it's like 3000 years.

723
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,440
I did a video mentioning him on Arthur Bones's channel. Check that out.

724
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:29,440
And yeah, so after a while, they they're communicating through, you know, the device and they're starting to figure it out.

725
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:45,440
But as they're working on it, Conrad Curse of the Night Lords happens to arrive at Macragh aboard the Dark Angels flagship and he gets let loose upon Macragh, which is bad.

726
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:55,440
And at this point, Baribas is on sofa and Alexis is on Macragh. And at one point, Alexis is in his little study room and Conrad goes,

727
00:41:55,440 --> 00:42:03,440
it's like a weird like noise and make me say, I'm scary. And then Alexis is like, oh, no, Primark and he tries to fight him.

728
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:13,440
It doesn't go very well. And then Baribas is like, all right, what's what we've got to lose. I'm going to try and like do a really dangerous thing with this device and see if I can transport you to me.

729
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:20,440
And he manages it. He actually like kind of goes like scoop and he scoops Alexis from Macragh. And then all of a sudden he's in the same chamber as Baribas.

730
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:27,440
And he's like, what the fuck is I don't worry about it. Magic. It's like ancient Necron space magic. It's good fun.

731
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,440
It's the oldest magic. It's the power of friendship.

732
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:31,440
Power of friendship.

733
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:44,440
Friendship and maths. Literally, that's how it works. The power of friendship actually is the reason why it's not like friends from different religions go a bond of friendship that will stand the test of time.

734
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:49,440
It's not a broke back mountain.

735
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,440
I mean, yeah, it's the body.

736
00:42:51,440 --> 00:43:02,440
The mountain on the Rinsworld one called again, like help help. Hellblade man's broke back.

737
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,440
Broke back.

738
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:13,440
Anyway, and sorry, their bond of friendship continues to grow with close proximity and they become even better friends.

739
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:22,440
And there's like having wine and they're having a laugh and they go, you know, that peruv is right wanker. And so yeah, I know.

740
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:33,440
And then unfortunately, nightlords again, different nightlords, they invade sofa to try and steal the pharaohs device.

741
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:39,440
And there's a few ultra marine station there because Gilman was like, this is important. I'm sending some ultra means to back up the imperial fists.

742
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:45,440
So Alexis leads the imperial fists, ultra means doing their thing and Dante Oka is there as well.

743
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:55,440
And unfortunately, they managed to make their way all the way up the mountain to the device and to prevent it falling into nightlords hands, Baribas blows it up.

744
00:43:55,440 --> 00:44:06,440
And in doing so, accidentally sends like a big flashlight beacon like, like, hey, dinner time message to the tyrannids.

745
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:14,440
For 10,000 years later, they're going to get to where they saw that big bright light and go, oh, this is quite a nice tasty area.

746
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:15,440
Yum, yum, yum.

747
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:20,440
But he does succeed in getting rid of the nightlords. The pharaohs device is blown up, can't be used.

748
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:27,440
And Baribas dies in Alexis Pollux's arms, which is very sad.

749
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,440
I had that commissioned as artwork. I'm going to you did. I'm going to put it on screen now.

750
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:37,440
It's real nice. I will. That's one of the first art commissions I ever did for Warhammer.

751
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:47,440
And I because we needed that moment in the law to be visualized because it's I think it's the first time a space marine cries, I think.

752
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,440
Oh, it's what the heck? I didn't know that.

753
00:44:50,440 --> 00:45:02,440
Because Pollux, Alex Pollux and Dan Tiot, like Pollux hates him in the beginning because of these nine warrior, but then they became really good friends over the years in Perum Secundus.

754
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:07,440
And then he's like, I think, I don't want to take it away. And if you want to keep that death.

755
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:15,440
Oh, well, it's, I mean, Baribas essentially was tricking the nightlords with the device being like, this is how we use it.

756
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:25,440
And then he looked over to Alexis, who was like held captive and he's like, sorry, bro. And then he like basically self destructed it and let himself die.

757
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:34,440
And then he sort of dies. Baribas Dan Tiot as well had like a metal plate slash mask like pinned to his actual skull.

758
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:41,440
So Pollux had never even seen his real face until he basically died and then like the mask was broken.

759
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,440
And he's really old as well. He's like, oh, you're so old.

760
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,440
So he's like, oh, you smell like old people.

761
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,440
Yeah, poor smell of garbage.

762
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:56,440
But, um, no, it's like Pollux was like holding him like after the battle was done.

763
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,440
And then he actually starts like crying like Baribas. He's like super upset.

764
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:09,440
And then when Gilliman does eventually arrive like later and they clean up the nightlords, it was said like Pollux wouldn't let anyone touch Baribas.

765
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,440
Like he held on to him for hours just sitting there.

766
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,440
Someone put a blanket on him because they were like, he's not moving.

767
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,440
We'll just put this blanket on him and leave him to it.

768
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,440
And then he has like a proper funeral though.

769
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:20,440
Yeah.

770
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,440
It's the first time they actually have a funeral in Forst's to start.

771
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,440
He used to be called Hero of the Imperium.

772
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,440
It's making me emotional.

773
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:27,440
Yeah, it's really sad.

774
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,440
No, it's a really, it's a very good moment.

775
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:37,440
It's pretty, it's very well written in terms like 30 K stuff just because it's one that's like, oh, actual space.

776
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,440
It's a human. So it's very enjoyable.

777
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:48,440
And with that done pretty much that's the last notable thing Pollux does during the Horus heresy, but he does survive.

778
00:46:48,440 --> 00:47:00,440
And with the legions break up into chapters, Alexis Pollux would be installed as the first captain, the first captain, the first chapter master of the second founding Chris Crimson fist chapter.

779
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:09,440
Their namesake derived from his own mangled severed hand of legend and because I believe he had a robotic hand for most of the.

780
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,440
Oh, he had it in the Battle of Faw.

781
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:12,440
Oh, it's like cloned, isn't it?

782
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,440
It's like bio cloned and it's got like a red tinge and they're like, his hands weird.

783
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:24,440
Because he, he, he was told to let it set and basically it was like a fully grown human hand, which is like parents quite expensive.

784
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,440
So most people do by onyx, but he had it properly done.

785
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,440
But he basically the battle had come so he didn't have enough time to let it set.

786
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:43,440
So he was always, always from then on, basically stuck with like a sort of red mangle, not mangle, but like it was like discoloured red fist, a crimson fist if you will.

787
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,440
So that's how the kind of name came out.

788
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,440
Like your hand looks like a straw.

789
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,440
But he's like, no, it doesn't. Leave me alone.

790
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:53,440
Yeah, for real.

791
00:47:53,440 --> 00:48:01,440
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, the man's got a power fist with an understun melt again.

792
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:05,440
You know, look up into my eyes, not down there.

793
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:06,440
Say that to my face.

794
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:07,440
No, no, I'm here.

795
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:10,440
Yeah.

796
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,440
So yeah.

797
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:19,440
And for 800 years, Alexis Pollux would lead the Crimson Fist chapter, which is a pretty good run.

798
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:27,440
Unfortunately, he's like poisoned by a Xenos weapon, and he has a really horrible death where he's just slowly dying offscreen.

799
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,440
And then he's like, oh, I'm dying.

800
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:30,440
This is terrible.

801
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:40,440
But in his last moments, he basically like makes steps to, he basically writes a will for the Crimson Fist like, do this, don't do this, be nice to girls, hold open doors for them.

802
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,440
Don't steal.

803
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,440
Okay, dad.

804
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:50,440
And his near mythical status would earn him the title of the Great Father by his chapter.

805
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,440
And that's how he's known as by, by the descendants of the Crimson Fists.

806
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,440
And that's basically Alexis Pollux.

807
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,440
Has anyone got any questions?

808
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:10,440
I said, cool statement about how in not we didn't just get the Crimson Fists from Sotha in the we also got the size of the emperor as a successor chapter from that same novel too.

809
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:15,440
So that was a good old, because there's another one as well.

810
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:16,440
Silver helmet.

811
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:32,440
Because I know the size of the emperor, their captain was like an ultramarine's captain and he was like, he was like, installed as, was he already known as the side of the like there's like a connection thing was like, oh, he was just like, that was his thing.

812
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,440
There was the people on the planet.

813
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,440
Well, it's well known for using sides.

814
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:37,440
Yeah.

815
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:45,440
And yeah, I was like, do you know a corner about the any of the origins of the size of the emperor?

816
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,440
Oh my God, I almost flubbed that.

817
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,440
Yes, I actually just did a video on them recently.

818
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,440
There are such a weird.

819
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,440
You can go into them if you want.

820
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:56,440
Love.

821
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,440
We just they need some love.

822
00:49:58,440 --> 00:49:59,440
Fair.

823
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:10,440
It's like, if I if I had a nickel for every time there was a chapter that was inspired by thematically but not actually related to in any way, shape or form of the iron warriors.

824
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,440
I would have two nickels.

825
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,440
Weird that that happened.

826
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:23,440
And it's not a lot, but because like silver skulls had I did the absolutely nothing that nothing to do with the iron warriors.

827
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:30,440
It was just an accident that they ended up like that because they were headhunters, they liked dipping the skulls of the people that they got in silver.

828
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:36,440
And that became the logo of their chapter and it just for some reason ended up looking like the iron warriors logo.

829
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:47,440
But I'm hearing you talk about like the like like Sotha and like the pharaohs device and I just finished like Bilisarius call the great word.

830
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:52,440
I am twitching because I'm like, it's like going through like Lord of the Rings.

831
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:56,440
You get to that scene where people don't say it.

832
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,440
Don't say it was a neck.

833
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,440
Yeah.

834
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,440
It was a neck.

835
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,440
Yeah.

836
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,440
Yeah.

837
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:10,440
There was like 16 tonsards down there.

838
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,440
But yeah, they're the size of the emperor.

839
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:19,440
They were a small company of space rings that were put on Sotha afterwards to guard it.

840
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:24,440
Because it was an angry world, that's where the name sides of the emperor came from.

841
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:28,440
They weren't even in I think first founding, but they were there.

842
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:33,440
They were like stationed there after like or before the second founding.

843
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:37,440
It's just like we need to like have a force defend what's left of this really important thing.

844
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:38,440
You'll do.

845
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:39,440
Oh, you're now a chapter.

846
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:40,440
Oh, cool.

847
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:41,440
Do we get to paint right now?

848
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:42,440
Yes.

849
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:43,440
Cool.

850
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:44,440
I like this one.

851
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:45,440
I like this scheme.

852
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,440
Barry, get the paint pots out.

853
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,440
Get some weird stuff.

854
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:50,440
Okay.

855
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:55,440
I'm just realizing their armor is actually kind of a mix of what would be behind warrior.

856
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:56,440
Black and yellow.

857
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,440
Yeah, black and yellow.

858
00:51:58,440 --> 00:51:59,440
Like hazard strikes.

859
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,440
I didn't really put that together.

860
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,440
Oh, I didn't put that together until now.

861
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,440
The more you know.

862
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:06,440
Yeah.

863
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:12,440
But otherwise, shall we delve into the chapter overall and what their deal is?

864
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:13,440
Yeah.

865
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:14,440
Heck yeah.

866
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:15,440
Yes.

867
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:16,440
Right.

868
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:21,440
We all know that they're a second founding of the Imperial fist chapter.

869
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:29,440
They are typified by being very heroic, stubborn and generally like good all rounders.

870
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,440
Like everyone's just like, are they just like a good bunch of lads?

871
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,440
They don't have any particular flaws.

872
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:34,440
They're not mean to people.

873
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:35,440
They don't kick children.

874
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:36,440
They're actually quite good.

875
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:43,440
They're not salamanders levels of like nice, but they are like, I was the term they're

876
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:44,440
like Boy Scouts.

877
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:48,440
They're just good lads who are good boys and they do good things because it's for good

878
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:49,440
sake.

879
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:50,440
You know, it's boring.

880
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:51,440
Yeah, but they're fun.

881
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:52,440
They're fun.

882
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:56,440
So they're a very safe chapter, I would say.

883
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,440
I just realized, is that because Pollock's obviously knew Gilliman.

884
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,440
So that's why they were so co-ed out as compliant.

885
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:02,440
Maybe.

886
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,440
Because he actually trusted Gilliman's.

887
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:05,440
Combinations of things.

888
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,440
And he also fought alongside the Ultramarines on SOFA.

889
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:08,440
So that might have.

890
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:09,440
Yeah.

891
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,440
I didn't, I had not put this all together until right now.

892
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,440
Working it out as we go.

893
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:21,440
But the by by by dint of them being a fleet based chapter.

894
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,440
Well, think of this way.

895
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:29,440
Originally the chapter was fleet based and their their Prima genitor, Alexis Pollock's

896
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,940
was already a naval genius.

897
00:53:31,940 --> 00:53:32,940
So it makes sense.

898
00:53:32,940 --> 00:53:35,440
They'd be really good in like a fleet based setting.

899
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:40,680
But over time, it was decided, oh, they're so good at being good boys, we're going to

900
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,940
give them a planet because they deserve it.

901
00:53:42,940 --> 00:53:43,940
They've done a good job.

902
00:53:43,940 --> 00:53:46,940
I think it's about time they had a plan and like, cool, we get a home.

903
00:53:46,940 --> 00:53:48,440
We get somewhere to live.

904
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,440
I get a bunk bed.

905
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:51,440
That's not in space.

906
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,440
It's like, cool, good for you guys.

907
00:53:54,440 --> 00:54:00,440
And so they would be gifted the planet known as Rin's world named after Rin, I guess,

908
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,440
because it's Rin's world.

909
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,440
And they also got like a plus.

910
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:05,440
Sorry.

911
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:09,440
It is an interstellar scene of him banging on the wall telling them not to go.

912
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:16,940
But the thing is, this is this, this planet is within the Loki sector.

913
00:54:16,940 --> 00:54:22,440
Again, for boating title for a sector, but there's also a bunch of other worlds around

914
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:23,440
it.

915
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,940
And since they've transitioned from a fleet based to a planet based chapter, they've now

916
00:54:27,940 --> 00:54:31,440
they have the proclivity to get recruits wherever they can because of their time as

917
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:32,440
a fleet.

918
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:36,440
So they actually draw from a bunch of planets, but they don't actually like to draw from

919
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,440
Rin's world in particular, even though it's their homeworld.

920
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,440
They prefer a planet called Blackwater.

921
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:46,440
And Blackwater is interesting because it's inhabitants are like, it's like a feral world.

922
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,440
It's inhabitants are really ferocious and athletic warriors.

923
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,440
And they're kind of like, dude, look at that one.

924
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:52,440
That one's ripped.

925
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:53,440
Yeah, we should make him another star.

926
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:54,440
That'd be cool.

927
00:54:54,440 --> 00:55:00,440
And even though they're kind of like barbaric in nature, Imperial fists, generally speaking,

928
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:04,640
I find in their successors have a tendency to be like, let's polish that rough diamond

929
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,440
into a mirror sheen that we like Imperial fists.

930
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:08,880
Oh, let's go to Necromunda.

931
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,360
We can make some of them into Imperial fists.

932
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,640
Executions like we like cutting people's heads off.

933
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,440
We're kind of barbaric as it is.

934
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:17,440
Cool.

935
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:18,440
Yeah, you're in.

936
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,400
So you can't mention Necromunda without that.

937
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:27,980
It's not really super related, but the Imperial fist slash sons of Horus bit, but the the

938
00:55:27,980 --> 00:55:32,640
Luna, sorry, the sons of Horus guy goes, this is like in a book in the heresy, guys.

939
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,600
You guys, you appear first wouldn't understand.

940
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:38,640
I was raised in a world like this, you know, Cathonia crime world and the guy, the Imperial

941
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,640
fist goes, oh yeah, I do.

942
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:41,640
I'm from Necromunda.

943
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:46,640
And then the sons of Horus guy goes, yeah.

944
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:47,640
Yeesh.

945
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:56,560
I have a fun little board that I want to give that when I was reading Rin's world, I feel

946
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:00,600
like this is something that no one talks about, but someone should bring up because it was

947
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:06,000
single-handedly the weirdest sentence I have ever read in a 40k book that was brushed aside

948
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,000
like it was fucking nothing.

949
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:13,240
And I don't know, sorry, if Andy was going to bring this up, but yeah, apparently one

950
00:56:13,240 --> 00:56:17,800
of the chapter masters of the Crimson Fist was going to implement a fucking.

951
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:18,800
What?

952
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,240
No, he did implement a breeding program.

953
00:56:21,240 --> 00:56:22,240
Easy.

954
00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:23,240
Yeah.

955
00:56:23,240 --> 00:56:31,640
He was going to get people who failed as Crimson Fist aspirants didn't get like destroyed physically

956
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:36,600
and have to be made into a servitor and then just like, like a child with two monster truck

957
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:41,080
toys smashed them together with another person who was like a good bone structure and good

958
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:46,840
genetics and see what came out and apparently it just was a resounding failure.

959
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:50,240
It's just a chaos lad who gets to wield the spine.

960
00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:57,440
That fucking, I could, the first half of Rin's world, once they just threw that out there

961
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:02,000
like it was nothing, I was like, did Alessio come from the breeding program?

962
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,000
That is odd.

963
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,160
How do I miss that?

964
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:06,160
I've read that.

965
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:07,160
I miss that.

966
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:13,880
It's like a first, maybe second chapter when they're getting, like they're having a meeting

967
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:18,000
in the arcs, Tyranus, they're just like, oh, it's the ceremony time and they're just like,

968
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,560
oh yes, here's the statues of all the prior chapter masters.

969
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,760
Oh, here's the 14th chapter master.

970
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,920
Did you know he wanted to make it?

971
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:29,360
He was known as Horneus Maximus.

972
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:34,120
Yeah, it was so weird that they're like, oh, this is the thing.

973
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:35,120
We're just going to brush up.

974
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:36,120
We're just going to leave that.

975
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,120
There's a lot going on here.

976
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:42,920
I mean, to be honest, I've just been reading the book of martyrs and I found one of the

977
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:44,480
planets in it is called Metallica.

978
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:45,960
I'm like, right, I'm done.

979
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:46,960
I'm done with this.

980
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:48,520
That's a forge ruled, right?

981
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,000
Yeah, it's good fun.

982
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:57,840
Anyway, so yeah, overall, the chapter has some weird customs like breeding.

983
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:04,560
So for example, weird, man, you guys get a blade.

984
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:06,560
That's weird.

985
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,040
Heavy breath.

986
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:12,840
But like Arthur said earlier a little bit, for example, when the aspirants of the chapter

987
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:20,120
become scout Marines, they must undertake the steeping, which is they on black water,

988
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,360
predominantly, they say something called a barb dragon.

989
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,920
And then they plunge their fist into its guts until it's like their left fist until

990
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:28,480
it's like all bloody.

991
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:32,640
And then they raise up their bloodied fist as like a mark of, yeah, I did it, bro.

992
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,240
I'm a crimson fist.

993
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:38,680
And now they're allowed to wear the red fist on their left handers and Astartes, which

994
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,840
is pretty cool.

995
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:44,440
Humans of the chapter have two crimson fist gauntlets.

996
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:50,040
So only the first company are allowed to have both, which is like a cool thing.

997
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:54,240
And the other thing about you mentioned failed aspirants, all the failed aspirants who don't

998
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:58,960
become Astartes, uncharacteristically, unlike a lot of chapters, they're actually quite

999
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:00,480
well respected.

1000
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:04,000
And they're known as the chosen by the chapter and they're made into chapter surf.

1001
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:09,280
So they're not made into servitors necessarily, but they'll be like, I mean, how you'll know

1002
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:14,920
like people like, for example, Nathaniel Garrow had his huskull Caleb Aaron, it's like, it's

1003
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,280
a ceremonial position.

1004
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:17,760
You carry his sword, you do good stuff.

1005
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:23,080
It's like, yeah, they have a similar thing where it's like, you're not like us, but

1006
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:24,480
you did a good job.

1007
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,480
So you can polish my gun.

1008
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:27,800
It's like, cool.

1009
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:28,800
That's nice.

1010
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:30,200
They're still part of the chapter.

1011
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:31,200
Yeah, they're not left behind.

1012
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:36,160
They're not like, it's not like the iron hands is like failure put into the mind blender.

1013
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,400
Like, oh, no, poor guy.

1014
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:44,040
But other than that, they're very level headed and pious souls.

1015
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,880
And they adhere very closely to the Codex Astartes.

1016
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:52,480
They revere the emperor, they revere Rogaldorn, and of course, the great father, Alexis Pollux.

1017
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,280
They're very good at adapting to battle.

1018
00:59:54,280 --> 01:00:00,160
So unlike the Ultramarines, who's kind of floor is they adhere so strictly to the codex, they're

1019
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:04,000
kind of like, oh, I don't know what to do when it doesn't work.

1020
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,320
The Crimson Fists are like, oh, this isn't working.

1021
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:07,680
Adapt, improve, overcome.

1022
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:09,200
They are bare grills.

1023
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:13,840
And they kind of have like a nice blend.

1024
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:18,480
They have a nice blend of Ultramarines and Imperial Fists doctrine.

1025
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:23,120
So they are very good at defending, but they're also very good at being Ultramarines.

1026
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,600
So they're kind of a weird mix.

1027
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:26,680
Here's a fun fact.

1028
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:31,040
They used to have an emperor's champion position within the chapter, like the Black Templars.

1029
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:35,600
They had a set of armor just for the emperor's champion who like the Black Templars is given

1030
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:39,080
a vision of like, you're going to go kill this dude.

1031
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:43,360
But with a particular incident that Arthur will talk about later, they lost the armor

1032
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:47,240
and now there aren't any emperor's champions, which is a shame.

1033
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:51,000
I kind of like the idea of the artwork of an emperor's champion in Crimson Fists colors,

1034
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:58,720
but we don't get that anymore because no fun allowed, said the law writers.

1035
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,680
They're really good at fighting Xenos, particularly Orcs.

1036
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:02,680
That's their thing.

1037
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:08,000
If you want an Orc dead, you send in the Crimson Fists because they hate the Orcs.

1038
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:09,800
They hate the Orcs.

1039
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:10,800
Yeah.

1040
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:11,800
If I had a nickel.

1041
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:12,800
If I had a nickel.

1042
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:13,800
Oh.

1043
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,400
Every time an imperial fist fought an Orc.

1044
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,720
I'd have a lot of nickels.

1045
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:20,720
Yeah.

1046
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:21,720
It's like they're really good at fighting.

1047
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:23,840
The beasts certainly be a rise.

1048
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:24,840
Yeah.

1049
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,600
It's basically Crimson Fists, the entire series.

1050
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,720
Not because of imperial fist.

1051
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:31,320
Every artwork is then fighting greenskins.

1052
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,200
Yeah, pretty much.

1053
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:38,520
But the thing is, because of this fact, they're very, very, very, very, very, very favored

1054
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:46,360
by the Chambers militants of the Orcs of the Deth Watch to the point where other Astartes

1055
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:51,480
seconded to the Deth Watch don't like the Crimson Fists because they get special treatment.

1056
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:56,160
There are records of as much as a quarter of many kill teams being just Crimson Fists

1057
01:01:56,160 --> 01:02:00,200
because the Deth Watch are like, they're really good at killing Orcs.

1058
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,120
No seriously, they're really good.

1059
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:03,560
And so they get special treatment.

1060
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:04,560
I like that.

1061
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:08,360
We treat them as our favorites because they're so good at it.

1062
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,480
And then all the other kill teams get like a blood aim.

1063
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:12,480
Bullshit.

1064
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:13,480
I don't want to fight.

1065
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:14,480
They go with cool guns.

1066
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,840
You got a cool ribbon the other day.

1067
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:20,160
I don't like it.

1068
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:25,880
And yeah, I like to, all successors of the imperial fist, they do have a few flaws.

1069
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:27,680
They can't spit acid.

1070
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:28,680
Big F.

1071
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:30,480
I'm sure we'd like to do that.

1072
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:31,480
That'd be quite fun.

1073
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:32,680
They can't do that.

1074
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,560
Their gene seeds messed up in that regard.

1075
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,080
They also can't hibernate.

1076
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:41,200
So I don't think it's REM sleep.

1077
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:44,400
But you know, like space means can kind of just like do the Skyrim thing where it goes

1078
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:48,000
wait 24 hours, but instead of hours, it's years and they're fine.

1079
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:49,960
They can't do that, which is a bit of a shame.

1080
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:55,240
And so they're not easy to deploy in like far off campaigns because yeah, they have a faulty

1081
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:59,000
betcher's gland and a faulty Susan membrane.

1082
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:03,480
They also bear the curse of their prime arc a lot like other imperial fists where they

1083
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:09,640
are so stubborn, they routinely get into last stands.

1084
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,000
They hate running from battle.

1085
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:16,880
And as the curse progresses, they refuse to retreat even in the face of death and they

1086
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:23,320
will take on any suicidal battle in the name of pride, gladly giving their lives for the

1087
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:24,320
privilege.

1088
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,520
Now, I do have a quote.

1089
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,080
I've got a couple of quotes today.

1090
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,440
I'm just seeing who I could send this to.

1091
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,440
Let's try this.

1092
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:34,440
There we go.

1093
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:38,440
So now I like to read this between Eli and how I can go first.

1094
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,440
If you're over it, sure.

1095
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:42,240
This won't be very special.

1096
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:45,080
Apologies, boys.

1097
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:49,000
We've survived the green skins invasion of our world.

1098
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,280
We've survived the fall of the arcs, Tyranus.

1099
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:56,080
We've survived the death of so many of our brothers.

1100
01:03:56,080 --> 01:04:03,520
The green skins before us are not a threat, but an opportunity for vengeance, an opportunity

1101
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:11,200
for glory, an opportunity to show the universe that the crimson fists still live for the

1102
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:15,560
prime arc, for the emperor, for the crimson fists.

1103
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:17,080
That's our boy Pedro Cantor.

1104
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:18,520
So I got more into it.

1105
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:19,520
As it went on.

1106
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:20,520
I love it.

1107
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,640
They don't like running from battle.

1108
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:24,960
They're like, now that's for wimps.

1109
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:28,440
We like fighting until we die because that's how men fight.

1110
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:30,680
The epic curse.

1111
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:31,680
Yeah.

1112
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:37,240
But other than that, that's basically all I wanted to talk about before the big oopsie

1113
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,760
in particular, which I believe Arthur will be covering.

1114
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,040
So before we move on to that, have we got any questions?

1115
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,240
I don't think I've got any.

1116
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:49,160
I'm ready for more crimson fisting.

1117
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:52,720
Sorry, I didn't mean to come out like that.

1118
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:53,720
It's not my fault.

1119
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:54,720
That's just their name.

1120
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:57,160
You can't keep getting away with this.

1121
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:00,000
I'm about to bring up feet pics again.

1122
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,000
Oh my gosh.

1123
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:02,000
Get him out of here.

1124
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:03,000
Get him out of here.

1125
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:07,840
Hell, we're two for two on this one.

1126
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:12,080
So Connor, would you like to talk about the ring that happened on Rinsworld in the Rinssector

1127
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,880
of Rinspace by Mr. Rinn?

1128
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:16,720
It's very iron.

1129
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:17,720
Iron hands.

1130
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:18,720
Iron hands.

1131
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:19,720
Iron hands.

1132
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:20,720
Iron hands.

1133
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:21,720
Iron hands.

1134
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:22,720
Oh, you mean?

1135
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:23,720
Ferris Manus.

1136
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:24,720
Yeah, Ferris Manus.

1137
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:25,720
Yeah, Ferris Manus.

1138
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:26,720
Ferris Manus.

1139
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:27,720
Which is Iron Hands.

1140
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:28,720
Oh, fine.

1141
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:29,720
Who has Iron Hands?

1142
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:30,720
Yes.

1143
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:31,720
Okay.

1144
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,720
So, yeah, Rinsworld.

1145
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:35,720
Wonderful place.

1146
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:41,800
Absolutely beautiful land with a very stable population until a certain character showed

1147
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,200
up in the sector.

1148
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,200
But the name of Snagrod.

1149
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:49,040
I won't leave if I remember that correctly.

1150
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:55,760
Which I had him confuse the entire book for a different orc that I knew a lot about and

1151
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,560
that was Zodgrad.

1152
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:01,120
Much to do about nothing, but it's really funny to imagine him being that orc because

1153
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:04,120
that orc looks like it's a myth.

1154
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:07,120
She has a spikey hair.

1155
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:09,120
Is that him?

1156
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:15,080
Yeah, he's the guy with the long flowing bright blue dreadlocks with the obsession with goblins.

1157
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:16,720
Oh my god.

1158
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:18,520
That's awesome.

1159
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:20,560
Yeah, I love Zodgrad.

1160
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:25,080
Yeah, but no, Snagrod is not Zodgrad.

1161
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:26,880
Zodgrad is the wart snagga.

1162
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,640
This guy is the arch-arsenist.

1163
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:31,840
A bit of a difference in title.

1164
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:35,880
Basically, they came to the Rinn sector, which is probably the Loki sector.

1165
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:39,400
I'm pretty sure it's called the Loki sector.

1166
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:42,560
And they took over several different planets that were in that.

1167
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:45,480
So I take over, I mean, completely fucked.

1168
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:47,400
Just burn it to the ground.

1169
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:51,440
I think there was a bit where the Crimson Fist was like, oh, that's a lot.

1170
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:53,360
Oh, god.

1171
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:54,360
Back up.

1172
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:55,360
Yeah.

1173
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:58,280
The invasion was so funny.

1174
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:04,880
Okay, funny because I'm a sardonic piece of shit who thinks everything's funny, but

1175
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:08,920
the Crimson Fists, to go back on what Andy was saying, they're like, yeah, they are very

1176
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:13,360
very stoke, they're like, yes, we have time to prepare how long until they're going to

1177
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:14,360
show off.

1178
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:15,360
Like 14 days at the highest.

1179
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:18,080
It's like, cool, because the tides and the warps are super, super bad.

1180
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:19,920
And Snagrod made an announcement.

1181
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:25,480
Hey, I'm, I'm, and they're like, ah, fuck, he's coming.

1182
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:31,120
So he ended up, they ended up preparing and they're like, oh, cool.

1183
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:32,320
Tides of the warp are going to clear up.

1184
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:35,080
And by the time they clear up, we should have like perfect fortifications.

1185
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:41,960
No, Snagrod is absolutely batshit insane even for an orc.

1186
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:47,880
So he just went through the warp during like a horrible warp storm.

1187
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:53,600
Half his fleet was probably destroyed, but he ended up like five kilometers away from

1188
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:56,480
the atmosphere of the planet.

1189
01:07:56,480 --> 01:08:01,000
And Pedro Cantor was like, we have 24 hours before they kind of like imagine, you know,

1190
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:04,040
like in Star Wars, they do like, like speed travel.

1191
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:09,120
It's like, imagine if a death star was just like, we're coming to Earth and it's like,

1192
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:14,560
if we, if we like use fast travel and we're, and we're just going to do it manually and

1193
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:17,640
we're a second lake, we're just going to smash through the planet.

1194
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:19,640
It's like the guy on the helm is being like, go on, I'm going to do it.

1195
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:24,680
And he's like lights me and then he just like, and now, and he's like an inch from the surface

1196
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:25,680
without clats.

1197
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,360
It's like, that's kind of the maneuver he didn't, they're like, holy hell, how did he

1198
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:29,360
do that?

1199
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:30,360
It's like, he's mental.

1200
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:31,360
That's why.

1201
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:34,640
Are you telling me he didn't do an episode eight?

1202
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,600
A whole new movie in one.

1203
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:38,600
What do you mean?

1204
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:41,360
That's clearly the best Star Wars film ever made.

1205
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:44,680
Enough jokes, enough memes.

1206
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:46,920
Yeah, enough about that.

1207
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:48,920
Too much, too painful.

1208
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:55,480
But yeah, so basically Orc Fleet was set to fuck it, we ball in all of their ships.

1209
01:08:55,480 --> 01:08:56,880
Most of them were destroyed.

1210
01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:00,760
I would assume, and they never really mentioned how many orcs were destroyed because so many

1211
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:08,080
showed up that it essentially was like cause for alert, because this is one of the biggest

1212
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:14,480
orc was that had ever appeared, which again, for if I had a nickel for every time an imperial

1213
01:09:14,480 --> 01:09:18,280
fist successor said this is the biggest orc wall that's ever been in the sector, a lot

1214
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,600
of nickels.

1215
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:28,280
But he ended up going to ground, burning a lot of the surface of Ryn's world, the many

1216
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:39,720
different keeps and cities that were there were like under siege, but they're being protected.

1217
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:41,840
The Crimson Fist had a pretty solid plan.

1218
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:48,800
They divided their Marines up to be a Nurent city, which is like the major city of Ryn,

1219
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:54,160
you know, Nurent's world because naming is hard, I guess.

1220
01:09:54,160 --> 01:10:00,200
So they put, I think, 400 Marines there, roughly speaking, and kept 600 Marines in the Arx

1221
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:05,520
Tyranus, including Pedro Cantor, Alessio Cortes, and a few other captains and so on were in

1222
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:06,880
like Nurent city.

1223
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:11,400
They had void shields up and they were taking massive amounts of fire.

1224
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:15,760
And they were like, okay, once the orcs run out of ammunition, I think they are going

1225
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:20,520
to take a break and we are going to break the siege, go out, do our own thing.

1226
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:27,600
So that happened, orcs stops firing and the space Marines are like, yeah, fire the nukes.

1227
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:34,880
And this is why you double, triple, and quadruple check when you're firing nukes.

1228
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:35,880
Where was health inspected?

1229
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:36,880
He needed him.

1230
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:45,000
Feels bad, man, feels so bad.

1231
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,000
I like to think someone just spilled their coffee.

1232
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:54,760
I like that scene in the Sims where he just spilled coffee and reacted cosnically.

1233
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:55,840
It's quite literally that.

1234
01:10:55,840 --> 01:11:00,880
They fired a single 40k equivalent to a nuke at them.

1235
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:08,000
And it goes up and then immediately you turn back down directly onto the Arx Tyranus and

1236
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:09,240
the Hellblade Mountains.

1237
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:14,480
But they even just go further to describe that because the point of the missile was a

1238
01:11:14,480 --> 01:11:18,920
drill because we were supposed to breach large ships, get to the center and then detonate.

1239
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:27,520
It drilled directly down to where they kept the munitions, which is a comedy of errors.

1240
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:33,400
Detonated and killed, I think, every single Marine in the Hellblade Mountains except for

1241
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:37,600
I think summer between 30 and 40.

1242
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:41,560
I think it was like 36 total afterwards.

1243
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:42,720
Yeah.

1244
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:49,640
So because someone made an oopsie poopsie, half a chapter just disappeared.

1245
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,600
Just imagining Michael Scott just being the one who pressed the button just having that

1246
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:58,440
look of like, oh my God, this is the worst.

1247
01:11:58,440 --> 01:12:00,280
Yeah.

1248
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:08,120
So I just ended up with Alessio Cortes, Pedro Cantor and just a bunch of extra Marines that

1249
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:09,120
were there.

1250
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:10,840
Names of which I don't think.

1251
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:13,400
They're just like named but unnecessary Marines.

1252
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:16,880
Heavy sidecarts of Marines essentially.

1253
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,080
Yes.

1254
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:22,680
They had to get on a track because I mean they just blew up their entire munitions with

1255
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:24,960
a nuke they launched and the entire planet was under siege.

1256
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:28,040
And they lost their core lemfers champion on which is rubbish.

1257
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:30,120
That's so sad.

1258
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:35,400
Needless to turn talking to the no writer who put that part in.

1259
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:38,000
But I digress.

1260
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:43,440
So their mission then was to make it to New York City fighting through orcs and what have

1261
01:12:43,440 --> 01:12:46,480
you to get there.

1262
01:12:46,480 --> 01:12:51,360
The remaining 400 Marines that were in New York City were basically holding out as long

1263
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:56,080
as they possibly can because they can't win against that without a full chapter.

1264
01:12:56,080 --> 01:13:02,680
The amount of orcs that were there is like Armageddon on a bad day level amount of orcs.

1265
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:08,400
So they're trying to wonder what the fuck happened to the Hellblade Mountains and the

1266
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:13,840
whole story basically just follows Peter Cantor or Lesio Cortes bickering like an old married

1267
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:16,120
couple as they are going because that's the dynamic.

1268
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:21,360
It's like Pedro is like we need to make sure we don't make the chapter extinct and Cortes

1269
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,880
is like we need to kill these idiots.

1270
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:30,040
How dare they blow up all our stuff and it's like yeah well I want to get revenge too but

1271
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:34,480
I have a responsibility as chapter master and I outrank you.

1272
01:13:34,480 --> 01:13:38,520
It's like oh and they're like good mates but it's like Pedro is more level ahead and he

1273
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:45,520
has like I have to make sure that like you know David who's been like he's been he's

1274
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:49,320
five years from retirement we've got to make sure he lives because it's not his fault that

1275
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:52,200
we accidentally nuked our own base it's stupid.

1276
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:56,240
So let's go back to new new new Rin city and then we'll go to Rin cafe and we'll get a

1277
01:13:56,240 --> 01:14:01,120
Rin coffee and it'll be fine.

1278
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:02,120
Good stuff.

1279
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:07,600
It's a definite war between some of them want a glorious last end as obviously the dawn

1280
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:13,600
and curse of dawn trait within them and then Pedro is like but I don't want to be the last

1281
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:14,600
chapter master.

1282
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:17,600
I don't want to go on my watch that would be rubbish.

1283
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:24,600
Ten thousand years and it ends right here like damn boy.

1284
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:28,040
Peter Cantor acts like a dog throughout the entirety of it with like one of those like

1285
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:33,280
long like Charles and that should have loops at the end of it.

1286
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:34,280
That's the character.

1287
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:35,280
Mancatcher.

1288
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:41,120
The little thing yeah the mancatcher like every time like a space marine is like come

1289
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:42,520
on really fun.

1290
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:44,520
He's like no stop.

1291
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:47,520
Come at you.

1292
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:51,440
Yeah exactly because I remember there was like a good scene.

1293
01:14:51,440 --> 01:14:55,560
I don't know if this is off on a tangent but it's like to give you an idea it gives a better

1294
01:14:55,560 --> 01:15:00,800
perspective of like a lesio Cortes and how like he goes against like the traditional doctrines

1295
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:01,800
of the Crimson Fist.

1296
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:08,480
There was like a pretty fucked up scene where like an orc was just like oh it's gonna be

1297
01:15:08,480 --> 01:15:12,560
funny as he throws a random farmer like an orc chopper.

1298
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:17,800
He's holding a civilian over a fire by his feet and he's like is that the one and he's

1299
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:22,440
like oh I'm just gonna like slowly sizzle him and then the Crimson Fist is in position

1300
01:15:22,440 --> 01:15:24,640
he's like not specified as the orc.

1301
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:28,640
Yeah yeah yeah and then the Crimson Fist aren't in position yet and they're like we need to

1302
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:32,480
wait until we're in position and like we need to stop them from like mutilating this old

1303
01:15:32,480 --> 01:15:33,480
man.

1304
01:15:33,480 --> 01:15:37,600
It's like no wait we're not in position we're not and this guy's going ah I'm screaming

1305
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:41,320
because he's on fire and then they're like now and now and now go go go and then like

1306
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:42,320
he's already dead.

1307
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:46,640
It's like yeah but we we got the orcs about a casualty and it's like yeah that poor guy

1308
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,480
is not happy about it though.

1309
01:15:49,480 --> 01:15:51,800
People always forget how cruel the orcs are.

1310
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:53,600
Yeah everyone.

1311
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:56,560
Oh god it's just the goffs for some reason.

1312
01:15:56,560 --> 01:16:00,160
There's too many memes about them I guess so everyone thinks that orcs are nice and

1313
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,000
having all this fun and stuff.

1314
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:06,040
They ignore the bits when they're eating godsmen alive.

1315
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:08,160
Enslaving everything yeah.

1316
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:13,880
Rinsed World does it quite well where it portrays the orcs from a normal civilian perspective

1317
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:19,880
and it's like oh my god these things are ginormous muscled green and they're actually I'm not

1318
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:24,160
a challenge to them so they're just enjoying essentially food and they're just playing

1319
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:25,160
with us.

1320
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:26,160
You know what it is?

1321
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:30,560
It's really like that animation of Meet the Pyro from Team Fortress 2 where it's like

1322
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:35,240
when you look at it you're like chatting scaring me and then in his mind it's all like lollipops

1323
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:38,560
and rainbows and like yeah that thing's scary though.

1324
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:46,040
But yeah the point I was going to make because I have to remind myself because I have to

1325
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:51,560
write things down is that Alessio Cortes it's kind of revealed after that entire scene that

1326
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:57,800
like everybody else is like man Alessio Cortes is a compassionate guy when I'm like 90%

1327
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:01,680
certain he just did this because he just fucked those orcs he just didn't like those orcs

1328
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:06,960
because he didn't really care about any of the survivors afterwards because Pedro Cantor

1329
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:11,240
was like hey you saved them you take care of them like you just brought home a puppy

1330
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:12,960
that he didn't really want.

1331
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:18,480
Oh poor poor there's the mother and the children so isn't it it's like a pretty I mean I won't

1332
01:17:18,480 --> 01:17:23,080
spoil it as an I won't say it but someone else is probably going to talk about it there's

1333
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:27,680
a really good scene with Cantor and that civilians coming up.

1334
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:29,800
You can if you want to.

1335
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:33,240
I don't want to take it away from anyone because I know there's a good opportunity to like

1336
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:38,520
the best bit of the entire book so I don't have necessarily take away unless.

1337
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:43,320
Do you want me to take it or is there one else want to have a go at it?

1338
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:46,760
Go for it I am gifting it to you and if people want to stop me that's cool.

1339
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:53,240
So it's the scene where the it's the farmer who's just been toyed with and burned the

1340
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:58,840
father died he was the father and the mother and the children are still alive and they

1341
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:05,560
end up following along sort with the Crimson Fist group and they are walking at space marine

1342
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:10,560
pace for a while and they are you can tell like they've the space being to have slowed

1343
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:16,000
down a little bit for them but they've not they're not like lacking like a slacking up

1344
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:21,960
and they are the poor woman is like just she's they even say like she was she lasted a lot

1345
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:25,440
longer than they thought she would and she goes like beyond the point of exhaustion because

1346
01:18:25,440 --> 01:18:29,600
she's like carrying two kids and then she has two other kids walking next to her and

1347
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:35,200
then eventually she just collapses and then Cortez and Pedro are like you know what you

1348
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:42,360
have to do Cortez is like you like I know man and then in Cortez's mind he thinks he

1349
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:46,880
has to put the civilians out of their misery because he's as in because like because obviously

1350
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:52,880
they're a liability because you can tell the difference in how Cortez and Cantor think

1351
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:57,680
and then Cantor goes no let me do it and then Cortez is like oh you shouldn't have to do

1352
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:03,640
that bro I'm so sorry and then Cantor says it's about time leans down and then he's

1353
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:08,840
like the poor kids like oh my god they're scared of what they're going to do to my mom and

1354
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:14,760
then he picks up the civilian and says it's about time someone carried you and it's like

1355
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:20,640
oh and then and then he's like you know we are Crimson Fists this is what we are doesn't

1356
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:25,080
matter if we die here or ever and then they start carrying the civilians to the next or

1357
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:32,640
he eventually you know carries the mother to the next rendezvous point and it's really

1358
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:38,640
it's probably it's not as sad as the death of Pollux so death of Dantioch C but it's

1359
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:44,320
definitely a tear jerker in terms of if you read it for the first time obviously spoilers

1360
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:49,640
here but it's a really well written scene because he kind of don't it's definitely

1361
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:54,360
until the last second left out like oh you think he's going to do like basically look

1362
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:56,800
the civilian and be like oh well that was awkward.

1363
01:19:56,800 --> 01:20:00,480
I remember when you were saying about that scene and the way they the difference in how

1364
01:20:00,480 --> 01:20:04,040
they saw it it just might be that scene from Parks and Recreations where there's the puppy

1365
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:07,840
and it's like Ron Swanson goes I was like oh we can't have the puppy in here it's like

1366
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:13,520
oh he's really cute say no take him outside and kill him no just take him as just the

1367
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:21,440
way that yeah yeah Kordes like completely different strain train of thought with that.

1368
01:20:21,440 --> 01:20:25,320
I was thinking of me meeting a park from Parks and Rec when he they have the pig and it's

1369
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:27,800
like where's the barbecue it's this pig.

1370
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:32,960
I have a curly this just says I can do what I want.

1371
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:39,400
I know I know it's it's I think it's one of those like really good scenes in war I wish

1372
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:44,280
if I ever could cover it on my own channel that part properly because I've done a little

1373
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:49,360
bit before I would definitely have that artwork commissioned for that scene because it's one

1374
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:54,680
of those ones where it's like an iconic scene from Warhammer I think it would be definitely

1375
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:58,400
well if anyone is listening out here is an artist absolutely go for it because it's a

1376
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:01,440
great great piece great scene.

1377
01:21:01,440 --> 01:21:05,440
It's see I got a very different impression.

1378
01:21:05,440 --> 01:21:11,040
I don't know if you can see great stuff different uptations all the time.

1379
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:17,000
Yeah yeah yeah trust me I feel like there's like two diverging paths a person can go when

1380
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:35,280
they're like into Space Marine lore and it's like Black Templars or

1381
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:36,280
this book neat.

1382
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:38,280
I'm finding that one out.

1383
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:46,160
But yeah back to it they ended up gathering like a few other stragglers and survivors

1384
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:52,880
by murdering a bunch of random orcs that were you know in the Rin Forest I believe it was

1385
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:57,800
or just some random forest I was there I can't remember the name per se.

1386
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:02,400
They went through Helen back bringing some stragglers a lot of them did die just from

1387
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:08,680
pure exhaustion a lot the people not the space brings it that doesn't happen I think so they

1388
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:18,760
ended up making their way to New Rin City and it was Dubai like the skin of their nipples

1389
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:27,680
I know what I said.

1390
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:35,520
So they set the charges one of the psykers of the chapter codiciers I believe they're

1391
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:43,600
referred to basically saw that something good or something horrible was coming this way

1392
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:48,560
so we got to keep an eye on this tunnel for whatever so they had like heavy baltars just

1393
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:52,800
as many as they can fit in the like caves looking for whatever thankfully.

1394
01:22:52,800 --> 01:23:09,000
Imagine like the conversation is like the two devastated Marines look at each other

1395
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:12,080
and say it was the orcs.

1396
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:16,440
Say it was the orcs dog.

1397
01:23:16,440 --> 01:23:22,000
But they ended up making it in an interesting fact that I don't know if they ever elaborated

1398
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:27,480
on it ever or if it's ever brought up again but for some reason the orcs just had shadow

1399
01:23:27,480 --> 01:23:30,000
in the warp this one time.

1400
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:37,880
Just it does it can be if anyone has read the Yarrick book on the second war of Armageddon

1401
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:42,960
there is one that does mention how I think just when there's like when there's a war

1402
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:48,120
of orc sometimes it has that effect of essentially it's like being near it's like trying to be

1403
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:52,160
on your phone and then there's like loads of people on your phone near that they're shouting

1404
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:55,480
real loudly essentially it's like it's not really like a it maybe it's the opposite of

1405
01:23:55,480 --> 01:23:59,960
a shadow in the walk where it's just too much noise that everything is like gets lost because

1406
01:23:59,960 --> 01:24:06,520
there's too much orc just an obnoxious football team fan group just like doing chants and

1407
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:11,880
like shut up I'm trying to get to work it's like it is like holding a candle next to a

1408
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:16,680
flood like a football pitch floodlight essentially you can go can someone hear me it's like oh

1409
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:20,480
well see see me it's like you're trying to make a phone call at Wembley stadium during

1410
01:24:20,480 --> 01:24:26,360
kickoff you're like I can't hear you's like yeah no wonder is that chance in the background

1411
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:34,400
I can hear so made it in near and city met up regroup found out that like several of

1412
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:42,120
his favorite captains him being Peter Cantor died horribly to orcs a few terminator suits

1413
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:49,480
were lost and they decided to regroup and then there's just kind of a time skip cool they

1414
01:24:49,480 --> 01:24:56,360
were there for I believe a couple of seasons while it was pretty lengthy which if you know

1415
01:24:56,360 --> 01:25:03,440
anything about orc was don't let them get a foothold or they're going to just make gargants

1416
01:25:03,440 --> 01:25:11,720
they it's just a natural progression of things so they had to have this kind of rush where

1417
01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:18,400
they were just trying to hold out as long as possible for like some kind of help until

1418
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:23,200
the gargants were made they had no worry they had no like reason to believe anything was

1419
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:28,440
happening other than early on in the entirety of the invasion during the preliminary space

1420
01:25:28,440 --> 01:25:36,440
battle that was just a one-sided stop because of how many orcs were up there they had one

1421
01:25:36,440 --> 01:25:42,080
ship of getaway which I think was aptly referred to as the crusader ended up slipping away

1422
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:52,320
through the rings postman made it out right yeah so if there's one thing that I know about

1423
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:57,680
the crimson fist is that if another crimson fist chapter is asking for help nine times

1424
01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:03,720
out of ten they are there with bells on so what happened was towards the end of this

1425
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:10,000
invasion a ship returned and that ship was stronghold please if I you know foreshadowing

1426
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:14,600
it that means nothing it was the crusader with like a bunch of other chapters I guess

1427
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:21,160
so they showed up and we're going to support the crimson fists in like their final hour

1428
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:27,000
but they are quite literally like it's like a minute to midnight like they are not they're

1429
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:31,280
pretty late they didn't have any landing zone so they had to clear out an LZ for them went

1430
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:35,800
to the new rin space where there were no landing zones there's like an eye at hand like brother

1431
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:42,080
there is no landing zone there are just orcs the orcs are the landing zone flatten them

1432
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:52,160
right so they secured the new rin landing port by just killing everything that was there

1433
01:26:52,160 --> 01:27:01,560
including a few orc war bosses one of which ended up being like it's the it's the very

1434
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:07,160
typical orc thing of like they can be this big named cool guy I think his name was like

1435
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:15,440
mag kull and he killed like a space marine terminator captain earlier in the book showed

1436
01:27:15,440 --> 01:27:22,360
up and like he killed he murdered fucked off screen like just left him alone with a lesio

1437
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:27,680
Cortez and lesio Cortez just like killed him or no he didn't kill him he got into a fight

1438
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:32,840
they thought a lesio Cortez was dead showed up and then they just murdered him it was

1439
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:43,320
kind of anticlimactic in my opinion secured a an LZ through the ships to drop more reinforcements

1440
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:50,600
down they ended up having a bit of an interesting confrontation with snagrod the arch arsonist

1441
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:55,920
who is apparently such a mad bastard that he barely even wears armor he just shows up

1442
01:27:55,920 --> 01:28:02,720
like blood has naked with like a power claw and like yeah a custom force like a big one

1443
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:06,360
of the scout marines is like I've got the shot I'm gonna try and kill this orc warlord

1444
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:12,720
and it's that thing of like ah he's a scout marine and the the captains are like don't

1445
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:16,320
take the shot wait until we're in position and it also has that kind of dynamic of like

1446
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:19,840
brashness versus restraint and he's like no I'm not gonna take the shot I got to take

1447
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:22,000
the shot I was like no no no don't do it don't do it you're gonna miss you're gonna miss

1448
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:25,520
you're gonna miss and eventually the scout takes a shot and it's just like massive force

1449
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:31,200
field and he gets a bunch of his men killed you're like you idiot listen to your captains

1450
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:35,640
it's really unfortunate that brother cannon was going to be turned into a servitor three

1451
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:50,560
weeks after yeah that's got new small mercies small mercies but yeah so they ended up fighting

1452
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:57,600
snagrod and I think if I remember correctly he got away injured they disabled his force

1453
01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:03,520
field and they were about to just like okay even playing field you have no armor get him

1454
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:14,880
he has a lot of miles right yeah Jojo just they were about to just grab him but got away

1455
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:19,920
on an orc plane which is very unorkey of him to leave I guess it's a very more key of him

1456
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:28,720
ended up getting away they got reinforced and now every single member of the Crimson

1457
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:34,760
Fist has this tick whenever you say the word orc in a room with them where I mean he came

1458
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:39,640
his head in very early no no no it's fine right it's like the size of the emperor interior

1459
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:45,040
talk if having pork for dinner and it's like you said what no I know it's just chewy

1460
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:54,720
pork killed my uncle I'm gonna get him I'm gonna go punch a pig say no stop it don't

1461
01:29:54,720 --> 01:30:00,920
do it so yeah that's the basic story I probably missed I am over simplifying it but you know

1462
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:08,160
why the fuck would you have me on if it wasn't over simplify things made it a good job yeah

1463
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:16,320
rough summation of what happened on you know Rinn's world in the book of Rinn's world and

1464
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:22,960
Traders Gorge Rinn's world and Traders Gorge yeah I forgot about that but the chapter still

1465
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:28,840
around to this day which is a miracle well yeah I mean do you want to say how they got

1466
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:34,000
back to strength I don't know some I might not know as much as you but I know that they

1467
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:37,040
got reinforced during the ultimate founding I don't know if they're one of the chapters

1468
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:41,080
that's because I know there's like two chapters during the ultimate founding you were close

1469
01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:45,880
enough to Ravute Gilliman to get like Marines or you weren't close enough to Gilliman well

1470
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:50,000
they just send you the data to make them and if you are that second chapter you met personally

1471
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:54,600
with Gilliman he turned up he was like oh you did a good job of like not dying here's some

1472
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:59,920
Primaris Marines he also gave them a really cool like Balter he's like yeah he's just

1473
01:30:59,920 --> 01:31:03,680
like this is yours and Pedro's like well I can't use it because I need one hand free

1474
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:09,280
but we'll give it to our champions it's cool thank you it's nice because I went through

1475
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:14,240
like their their relics and it's like his his his power fist doesn't have a name oh well

1476
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:18,120
it's like dawn's arrow and then there's like another one it's like Gilliman gave this to

1477
01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:22,520
Pedro Cantel for not dying and he's like yeah we give us the champions I can't use it I need

1478
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:28,400
I need a hand to punch things with I do have a quote for Eli though if you're willing with

1479
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:33,360
it's of Ravute Gilliman when he arrives at Rinsworld with the reinforcements here you

1480
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:39,440
go oh it's a big one biggie all right I don't I can't do a Gilliman voice but I'll just

1481
01:31:39,440 --> 01:31:44,040
say it I have not summoned you for censure but to speak earnestly Robledore and thought

1482
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:48,000
there was no higher purpose to the existence of the Astardes than the unification of man

1483
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:55,240
kind I see that in you also and his determination we high need men who fight bravely even when

1484
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:59,880
faced with great tragedy I have seen with my own eyes in recent days how you inspire

1485
01:31:59,880 --> 01:32:05,520
intense loyalty and those around you and I see you hold duty above glory or vengeance

1486
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:11,180
my brother would be proud reassemble your chapter Pedro Cantor and look now to the future rather

1487
01:32:11,180 --> 01:32:16,520
than the past the Loki sector and the Imperium entire has need of you nice

1488
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:21,960
and that's kind of the weird dynamic where they've basically got no veterans left they've

1489
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:25,800
got like a hundred plus Astardes veterans and then everyone is a Primaris so they're

1490
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:31,920
like these young whippersnappers don't know how to kill an orc properly and you know grumpy

1491
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:39,760
boys and so yeah they're they're mainly Primaris now but does the Ranger the Eldar Ranger thing

1492
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:44,840
happened in on Rinsworld it's a little story in the space Marine Codex I don't know if

1493
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:48,360
it has enough importance to even talk about it or not you can mention it if you like I'm

1494
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:53,120
I'm less I barely remember it I'm not gonna lie it was like one of my first tales from

1495
01:32:53,120 --> 01:32:57,160
the world video so it's really bad I probably unlisted it because all my first videos were

1496
01:32:57,160 --> 01:33:02,400
atrocious but that should be a punishment for a challenge we do on the channel where

1497
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:08,840
you have to watch your first ever video and I think everyone here no matter who you like

1498
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:15,240
any you do it you have to watch your first video you wouldn't there's no greater suffering

1499
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:22,840
internally than hearing your own voice just like an Eldar Ranger comes out of a portal

1500
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:27,880
and talks to Pedro Cantor and it's like saves him in his buddies from some orcs and then

1501
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:32,320
he's like I hate Eldar and then the guy's like all right but I'm just warning you about

1502
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:36,120
something and then he leaves it's something like that and then the other one goes oh can

1503
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:46,400
you go where sounds like Eldar are you grimson fist on vigilance I think is that a maybe

1504
01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:52,120
I think that I do know a little bit about that how it's like the vigilance campaign which

1505
01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:57,200
is supposed I don't know if that is with as it must be with the Primaris reinforcements

1506
01:33:57,200 --> 01:34:05,760
but for people listening vigilance is essentially turning into the new Cadia in law so the secret

1507
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:11,240
which my addictum the massive warp storm that like splits the period in such galaxy in two

1508
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:17,840
it's only one planet which is is it the neckman go look like there's a little gap where there's

1509
01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:24,400
one planet sort of in the middle of all this warp storm yeah called vigilance and as a

1510
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:30,840
campaign it's one really dangerous alleyway that gets a shortcut so yeah like it's a massive

1511
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:35,960
one like it saves you half an hour but that but that alleyway there's people and walks

1512
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:39,800
and it's full of no it's full of teenagers who are talking about it.

1513
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:45,160
I think you're more intimidating as soon as you get above the age of like 25 it's like

1514
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:51,600
oh it's like 30 like 30 or 20 honestly like oh my gosh especially now it is.

1515
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:55,640
But vigilance down kids.

1516
01:34:55,640 --> 01:35:02,720
I do believe the Crimson Fists and Pedro Cantor actually make a proper like big appearance

1517
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:07,840
in the because Abaddon attacks the planet is like oh that looks a bit too imperium.

1518
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:09,600
That looks a bit too safe.

1519
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:10,600
Time to ruin it.

1520
01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:11,600
Thanks Abaddon.

1521
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:15,520
He definitely rubbed his hand together licks his lips you know all that looks like about

1522
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:17,000
to destroy that.

1523
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:19,240
Off I go hairlessying again.

1524
01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:27,400
I think that's the planet where Calgar and Abaddon have a mini duel but yeah essentially

1525
01:35:27,400 --> 01:35:33,880
Pedro and the Crimson Fists I do believe show up and they make like a pretty I don't know

1526
01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:38,840
if it's early on or if he appears like later in the campaign but I know that they sort

1527
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:43,360
of act like a rallying point for a lot of other chapters I think some of the iron hand

1528
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:44,360
successes even show up.

1529
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:47,680
They were just they couldn't because of their artwork all their artwork is like them on a

1530
01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:51,880
big like a big pile of bodies like as a last time like oh we can do the things like all

1531
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:52,880
right everyone get together.

1532
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:55,640
Ah we're shooting in every direction.

1533
01:35:55,640 --> 01:35:56,640
Group photo.

1534
01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:57,640
Group photo.

1535
01:35:57,640 --> 01:35:59,640
Guys come on something.

1536
01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:01,640
Quickly quickly do the painting on last standing.

1537
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:02,640
It's pretty cool.

1538
01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:03,640
I love that picture.

1539
01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:12,760
They are they are I also think what's particularly cool about Crimson Fists is they actual I

1540
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:18,840
think everything comes of the one the few ones now in 40k which are not Greco Roman

1541
01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:22,480
Latin thing they actually have like you know Cortez Cantor.

1542
01:36:22,480 --> 01:36:26,080
They have a very very Latin influence.

1543
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:27,080
That's pretty cool.

1544
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:28,080
I like them.

1545
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:33,920
Yeah the natural it's nice how that little bit of extra flavor in terms of otherwise

1546
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:36,800
a lot of them become like carbon copies of each other.

1547
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:37,800
So it's nice that makes it diverse.

1548
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:41,400
There's one thing with their heraldry which is a bit of a weird one because you know everyone

1549
01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:45,160
knows they're like kind of deep blue with red.

1550
01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:50,040
In the book it says about how like Cortez has green trim because he's in the fourth company

1551
01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:53,160
and all of them have different trim and then you look at all the artwork and it's like

1552
01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:54,160
no trim.

1553
01:36:54,160 --> 01:36:55,720
I'm like that's weird.

1554
01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:59,280
So I'm not sure if that's been retconned or not but I'm like.

1555
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:01,760
Similar to I think Ultramarine isn't it?

1556
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:03,760
Ultramarine's fourth company have green trim.

1557
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:04,760
Yeah yeah it's the basic.

1558
01:37:04,760 --> 01:37:05,760
But then you never see it.

1559
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:09,200
Yeah it's like pretty much all Codex chapters it's like White's first company, Gold is

1560
01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:14,480
second, Green is fourth, Red is fifth I think and then like it's like there's black and

1561
01:37:14,480 --> 01:37:18,320
purple and blah blah blah but it's like in the books it's like it clearly states that

1562
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:22,160
SEO has green trim and then you look at all the stuff and it's like oh it's just blue on

1563
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:23,160
blue.

1564
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:24,160
Oh okay.

1565
01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:25,160
Need more.

1566
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:30,240
As much as all of us have probably struggled with there always needs to be more artwork

1567
01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:35,600
whenever you're especially on our end just like making stuff because we do try our best

1568
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:41,240
to obviously commission stuff but man Warhammer Deathly like there's so much of it it's hard

1569
01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:42,240
to get.

1570
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:46,320
The magic together really helps with that honestly.

1571
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:47,320
Oh my god.

1572
01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:48,320
It's a big help.

1573
01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:51,000
I think there's probably a few of us who have come across a thing where it's like there's

1574
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:53,000
no artwork there's really famous things.

1575
01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:56,040
Well there's this chapter with like a fair bit of lore I want to do a video on.

1576
01:37:56,040 --> 01:38:01,160
They have like two people I'm going to do execution as soon as like I found two bits

1577
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:02,160
of art.

1578
01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:03,160
Two.

1579
01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:05,760
And we're going to stretch that across the video.

1580
01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:06,760
Yeah.

1581
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:11,280
That's still pretty good though considering even though even though Chris and Fiss in

1582
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:16,720
terms of just Warhammer history for people listening is one I think it's the first ever

1583
01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:18,560
space marine depict isn't it?

1584
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:23,120
Isn't it the second edition codecs they were on the front of?

1585
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:24,720
Maybe they're not the first depiction I think that's brilliant.

1586
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:28,000
I think it's like the first one of the cover or something like that because I think it

1587
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:32,840
was Rogue Trader then it was second edition I think and then they are on the cover with

1588
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:37,360
their big last standing like oh space marines and I think they were the first.

1589
01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:42,360
Yep they are one of the first official named main schemes in like the game because if I

1590
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:47,360
remember correctly prior to that they were like here's random blue guy like they didn't

1591
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:52,080
really have a name for the schemes and then they came out with like a chart of like like

1592
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:55,920
the original artworks for all of them like the original Salamander artworks is also in

1593
01:38:55,920 --> 01:38:58,520
that same book and that are good.

1594
01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:03,000
Yeah it's a fucking lucky hammer and you're like what is this?

1595
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:04,000
Right.

1596
01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:09,080
Wasn't that one of the original kakarodons and they are like no they're not they're

1597
01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:10,080
not grey.

1598
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:11,080
Yes.

1599
01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:12,080
Did you know what I'm talking about?

1600
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:14,360
Like they're like oh do you want to mention it quickly?

1601
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:19,560
I know exactly what you're talking about but I adore the original Karkarodon's paint scheme

1602
01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:26,040
because their original logo like the current logo of the Karkarodon's neat it's sleek

1603
01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:27,040
it's sexy.

1604
01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:32,600
But like sharks are like the most sexual creature in the ocean.

1605
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:42,000
Dolphins are not scary animals other than humans that enjoy sex.

1606
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:43,000
That's that thing.

1607
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:47,040
Oh that's no that's keep it up more.

1608
01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:48,840
Yeah yeah yeah.

1609
01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:55,200
I used to be a biologist I could go on for days about how much I hate dolphins not today

1610
01:39:55,200 --> 01:40:00,920
but if you look up the original logo for the Karkarodons it looks like a child's doodle

1611
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:02,160
of a shark.

1612
01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:03,360
And it's like no it's not.

1613
01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:09,160
He's just there like you can just imagine him just saying like there he is.

1614
01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:14,000
But the thing is in the lore is that there are space sharks and there are Karkarodons

1615
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:15,000
and they're now separate.

1616
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:20,920
Yeah true actually I think that's true.

1617
01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:25,600
It's a mixed kind of thing because like it's the same thing with like the Minotaur's

1618
01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:28,160
where like there was a chapter called the Minotaur's that had completely different

1619
01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:30,800
iconography completely different paint scheme.

1620
01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:33,720
They existed prior to the Minotaur's that we know right now.

1621
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:36,320
The theories that they were the chapter that was killed.

1622
01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:38,360
Man this is a great video.

1623
01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:42,400
We're allowed to deviate from the crimes.

1624
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:45,320
We could be we usually talking about food by now so.

1625
01:40:45,320 --> 01:40:51,160
Yeah we had a massive debate about breakfast before where we had to talk about how in the

1626
01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:53,160
UK we're like it needs to be more savoury.

1627
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:56,120
Yeah these guys hate English muffins with honey.

1628
01:40:56,120 --> 01:40:57,120
Literally hate.

1629
01:40:57,120 --> 01:40:59,440
It's not called I looked at a picture of it.

1630
01:40:59,440 --> 01:41:00,440
What Eli said.

1631
01:41:00,440 --> 01:41:04,000
We don't call it English muffin here playing off it's just called a muffin.

1632
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:10,000
I mean I could go I could fuck up a good steak and eggs with breakfast.

1633
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:12,400
Oh man that's oh we're talking pro here.

1634
01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:13,400
God.

1635
01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:17,480
You're making me hungry now.

1636
01:41:17,480 --> 01:41:20,600
Immediately goes on the tangent about breakfast.

1637
01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:21,600
Stick into the topic.

1638
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:26,920
We would say like the Crimson Fist that they are still currently about they are kicking

1639
01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:34,160
ass in terms of they just repelled or help repel the Abaddon campaign and obviously there's

1640
01:41:34,160 --> 01:41:36,280
a bit of like extra flavour to them now.

1641
01:41:36,280 --> 01:41:41,040
It's unfortunate that they don't get like they seemingly have had like a bit of love

1642
01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:44,360
in the law in terms of books and then they go like oh we've done it now and they haven't

1643
01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:47,360
really been touched since.

1644
01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:51,360
I guess they get as much as like sort of I don't know I always think of them in a way

1645
01:41:51,360 --> 01:41:55,800
like how blood ravens don't actually have like really that much of official official

1646
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:59,800
stuff but then they still are kind of well loved.

1647
01:41:59,800 --> 01:42:04,120
I think Crimson Fists I do believe yeah I don't know if creating for a wrong was it

1648
01:42:04,120 --> 01:42:09,680
the ninth edition you could play them as a yeah as like they actually had their own

1649
01:42:09,680 --> 01:42:15,240
rules I don't I think and I mean Pedro is like an actual character that you can play

1650
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:17,080
with so make sense.

1651
01:42:17,080 --> 01:42:19,560
You can't currently buy his model I think.

1652
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:21,880
Are they making them legends?

1653
01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:27,040
No I think they might be hopefully they might be primarising him up.

1654
01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:33,680
I'm sure Pedro will like most of the chapter masters at some point go through the Cross

1655
01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:34,680
of Rubicon.

1656
01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:43,440
Tybros and Antioch because GW hates Forge World, Space Marine chapters, Ineco Cardons

1657
01:42:43,440 --> 01:42:50,120
and Minotaurs are no longer and I'm grumpy about that.

1658
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:54,760
They don't give a lot of love but hopefully we'll get well luckily too fair if you are

1659
01:42:54,760 --> 01:42:59,120
particularly painting along for this or if you're even painting Crimson Fists they are

1660
01:42:59,120 --> 01:43:03,440
quite like a nice scheme but I think they're one of the few I always like if you see them

1661
01:43:03,440 --> 01:43:07,320
on the table top they actually look quite satisfying you're like a full force I think

1662
01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:11,160
it looks quite quite gorge I would say they.

1663
01:43:11,160 --> 01:43:16,960
Is there any more lore anyone wants to add to this one?

1664
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:22,160
I've got a few character rundowns but we've already talked about two and just some details.

1665
01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:23,660
Go for it go for it.

1666
01:43:23,660 --> 01:43:27,120
It's not much but I thought you know it's not much but it's honest work so I thought

1667
01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:31,560
I'd just mention some of the some of the the known characters I've only got three because

1668
01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:35,960
there's actually not many known characters but we'll start off with Pedro Cantor just

1669
01:43:35,960 --> 01:43:41,320
a few extra details so he's known as the Lord Hellblade because he is kind of the regent

1670
01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:46,400
of Rinsworld unlike a lot of chapter masters he's actually like he's not just oh I live

1671
01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:50,640
here he actually is like in charge of the planet as well which is quite cool he's the

1672
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:54,960
29th chapter master and he's one of the most respected and accomplished studies in the

1673
01:43:54,960 --> 01:44:01,360
Imperium and it's a symbol of unerring defiance and heroism and is also just good at not being

1674
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:05,960
a dick unlike a lot of space marine chapter masters you're like we should burn the civilians

1675
01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:12,240
to get closer to the enemies like no he's very wise yeah he's tempered and wise which

1676
01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:18,600
is what a chapter master should be it's very cool so that's all I want to say about him

1677
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:23,720
but Cortes I just need to mention a few other things about Cortes so he's known as the master

1678
01:44:23,720 --> 01:44:29,160
of the charge as captain of the fourth company like we said he he went through the ranks

1679
01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:34,200
with Cantor as a young astart he's he was a veteran of the the battle of steel cross

1680
01:44:34,200 --> 01:44:39,840
and defense of fortress Maladon and he's continuously been the last man standing of the chapter

1681
01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:45,320
in its most difficult battles here's a fun fact he once disarmed an orc warlord with

1682
01:44:45,320 --> 01:44:51,600
a sword stuck in his ribs where he basically twisted his body so it kind of got out of

1683
01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:55,280
his grip and then killed the orc after he disarmed he's like oh my ribs are a good way

1684
01:44:55,280 --> 01:45:00,760
of grabbing this twist stab and that's just kind of the guy he is oh I've got a quote

1685
01:45:00,760 --> 01:45:09,800
as well do you want to read this one how it's two characters oh is it is it the second

1686
01:45:09,800 --> 01:45:17,600
one yeah it's like second one it's broken up into two characters oh as in it's after

1687
01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:23,600
the hello has not seen this quote it's the the one that starts with you've lost an arm

1688
01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:30,800
oh you've lost an arm Alessio by the mercy of the emperor you're lucky you're not losing

1689
01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:38,400
your life as well I haven't lost my arm brother it's right over there so I'm still in this

1690
01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:53,440
I'm fine it's over there or did he get like I whisper I listen listen listen listen

1691
01:45:53,440 --> 01:45:58,920
yeah I could yeah because it was like right after the water I could not mention it's kind

1692
01:45:58,920 --> 01:46:02,520
of a fan favorite in the community of like fun quotes that Astardes have said he's like

1693
01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:06,360
yeah he's just been like fighting with this orc war boss on Rindzware's like you lost

1694
01:46:06,360 --> 01:46:09,760
your arms like no I haven't I know exactly where it is I'm looking at it and he's like

1695
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:16,520
grab this is definitely a Monty Python reference here is like no yeah his but a scratch but

1696
01:46:16,520 --> 01:46:22,160
a flesh of a space marine's but as far as his fate these days what we do know is very

1697
01:46:22,160 --> 01:46:28,440
scant but he was lost during his battle against Drukhari pirates during the wheel of fire campaign

1698
01:46:28,440 --> 01:46:36,040
many of the chapter including Cortez believe he is alive within the web way but he's missing

1699
01:46:36,040 --> 01:46:41,800
he should be dead but it's Cortez so he's probably not dead and they reckon yeah he

1700
01:46:41,800 --> 01:46:46,000
may be lost he's not back with the chapter but everyone is there come on they can't kill

1701
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:51,720
Cortez he's too cool he's a cool guy he disarmed an orc with his rib cage that's pretty cool

1702
01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:56,240
so yeah yeah yeah you're not gonna kill him then the immortal as we have learned so there

1703
01:46:56,240 --> 01:47:01,360
is seems a bit seems a bit of a waste of like and then he died off screen but it wouldn't

1704
01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:05,720
be the first time GW have done that oh he is basically the epitome of I didn't hear no

1705
01:47:05,720 --> 01:47:10,840
bell that's a that's Cortez and just like a little character because again there aren't

1706
01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:15,680
many characters but there's another one called Esther bandidominova he's a death watch apothecary

1707
01:47:15,680 --> 01:47:20,400
and watch captain of the Jericho reach he's just like a neat character who's got a little

1708
01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:25,280
bit of lore he's a brilliant medic and genius intellect he doesn't get on with like he's

1709
01:47:25,280 --> 01:47:30,160
he's very reserved he doesn't really like fraternize with the rest of his men but he's a xeno biologist

1710
01:47:30,160 --> 01:47:34,280
and he's earned the respect of the death watch and inquisition because he's he's the he's

1711
01:47:34,280 --> 01:47:38,680
like one of the premier medics in the estates when you get injured in the death watch you

1712
01:47:38,680 --> 01:47:43,360
want him to treat you because it's like oh I won't lose the arm that'd be good or I won't

1713
01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:47,280
be put in a dreadnought sarcophagus that's a relief and so he has like a waiting list

1714
01:47:47,280 --> 01:47:53,440
of like um got brother Gary he's like he's been really badly injured he doesn't want

1715
01:47:53,440 --> 01:47:56,840
to be going to dreadnought he's like no I'm not gonna stick me in the box and he's like

1716
01:47:56,840 --> 01:48:03,440
yeah get Esther bandidot so those are those are just the doctor house of the death watch

1717
01:48:03,440 --> 01:48:19,920
he's the best he's our best goddamn doctor we've got it here everybody if that's everything

1718
01:48:19,920 --> 01:48:24,800
that I think that might we might have crimson fisted it sorry I did it again boys didn't

1719
01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:35,600
mean to we've crimson I've given the wrong impression or maybe I've just been too honest

1720
01:48:35,600 --> 01:48:55,160
to do like the emperor's children screw the pain glove we need to give Hal a foot glove

1721
01:48:55,160 --> 01:49:13,480
I'm speaking of pain sock thank you everyone for listening to this episode we appreciate

1722
01:49:13,480 --> 01:49:26,440
you guys so much for screening for us so warm welcome guys should you like and share your

1723
01:49:26,440 --> 01:49:36,960
time longest road no welcome just because you guys are awesome thank you and many thanks

1724
01:49:36,960 --> 01:49:40,040
absolutely fucked the nightlords after 2000.

1725
01:49:40,440 --> 01:49:42,400
Yeah, that's tough.

1726
01:49:42,480 --> 01:49:44,600
Man, Desimus was a really cool character.

1727
01:49:44,600 --> 01:49:46,600
That old now, Christ.

1728
01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:49,840
I think it was 2008 or 2011.

1729
01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:51,080
It was like an early 2010s.

1730
01:49:51,080 --> 01:49:52,400
I'm just like, man, I don't know.

1731
01:49:52,400 --> 01:49:53,520
I mean, is it coming back?

1732
01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:57,000
It's only a little bit previously in the new storm of iron redo of the art.

1733
01:49:57,200 --> 01:49:59,200
Like they're going.

1734
01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:02,000
Oh, we've also on the front.

1735
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:04,720
So they're going back to old stuff and revamping it slightly.

1736
01:50:04,720 --> 01:50:06,600
So it's like, maybe there's hope.

1737
01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:08,680
Who knows? Interesting.

1738
01:50:08,680 --> 01:50:11,840
It's one of those things where it just won't be touched until they want to do.

1739
01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:13,920
If your faction has an omnibus, it's over.

1740
01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:17,640
Right.

1741
01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:18,920
I mean, it's not wrong.

1742
01:50:18,920 --> 01:50:21,160
I I hate it so much.

1743
01:50:21,160 --> 01:50:24,520
But yeah, nightlords are kind of my closet pick.

1744
01:50:24,520 --> 01:50:27,040
That's the thing that like I'm like twitchy.

1745
01:50:27,480 --> 01:50:29,000
OK, nightlords and leagues of vote.

1746
01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:30,200
And the leagues of vote.

1747
01:50:30,200 --> 01:50:32,200
And there's not much about leagues.

1748
01:50:32,200 --> 01:50:33,920
Yeah, you don't have to say it like that.

1749
01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:35,440
This is this is a nice place.

1750
01:50:35,440 --> 01:50:37,000
We're not talking about.

1751
01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:37,760
Not anymore.

1752
01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:38,760
Not anymore.

1753
01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:39,960
What?

1754
01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:41,320
What do we have?

1755
01:50:41,320 --> 01:50:42,600
Is there problems?

1756
01:50:42,600 --> 01:50:43,480
Do we have problems?

1757
01:50:43,480 --> 01:50:44,600
Or leagues of vote?

1758
01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:46,560
I think any of us got any

1759
01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:48,200
considered expert level.

1760
01:50:48,200 --> 01:50:48,680
I don't.

1761
01:50:48,680 --> 01:50:51,760
Yeah, I just don't like that they made the new faction before

1762
01:50:52,040 --> 01:50:54,360
even giving me noise marine kids.

1763
01:50:54,360 --> 01:50:56,800
But, you know, it's fine.

1764
01:50:56,800 --> 01:50:58,880
Valid leagues of vote.

1765
01:50:58,880 --> 01:51:01,440
And I know everything there is to know about them, which is like.

1766
01:51:04,360 --> 01:51:05,280
There's not much.

1767
01:51:05,280 --> 01:51:06,320
We haven't gotten a book yet.

1768
01:51:06,320 --> 01:51:09,200
I've read all the codexes and like book entries for them.

1769
01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:11,400
And I'm trying to stay up to date to be that guy.

1770
01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:13,760
But, you know, those are my two.

1771
01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:15,400
We may have to if you're up for it.

1772
01:51:15,400 --> 01:51:17,960
You may have to obviously if we're talking about leagues of vote

1773
01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:21,000
and hope you can vote on our leagues in five years when we got.

1774
01:51:25,240 --> 01:51:26,800
Of course, I'd love to.

1775
01:51:27,600 --> 01:51:30,920
Again, there's not much to know about other than one of the characters

1776
01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:37,560
might just be like I don't have one last one, though.

1777
01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:40,480
It's a tough question.

1778
01:51:40,480 --> 01:51:41,320
Tough question.

1779
01:51:41,320 --> 01:51:41,960
Clearly tough.

1780
01:51:41,960 --> 01:51:44,080
Can't even get it out.

1781
01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:46,400
Who's better, Sevatar or Talos?

1782
01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:52,120
Better in one way to you.

1783
01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:55,120
Oh, our heart.

1784
01:51:55,200 --> 01:51:56,680
Not even a difficult question.

1785
01:51:56,680 --> 01:51:58,520
Sevatar, great character, love him to death.

1786
01:51:58,520 --> 01:52:01,400
Talos is one of those guys that like like.

1787
01:52:02,520 --> 01:52:03,320
Oh, no.

1788
01:52:07,280 --> 01:52:09,360
You don't know what landmine you've stepped on.

1789
01:52:13,120 --> 01:52:16,640
Hey, tying people together and helping them to create a psychic

1790
01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:18,080
screech to murder people.

1791
01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:19,280
I'm looking at them.

1792
01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:20,480
It's a long time.

1793
01:52:20,480 --> 01:52:21,760
This is an art project.

1794
01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:23,080
He's just being creative.

1795
01:52:24,240 --> 01:52:25,360
He's just creative.

1796
01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:26,960
He's don't shame him.

1797
01:52:26,960 --> 01:52:28,320
Nice.

1798
01:52:28,320 --> 01:52:31,360
With that being said, though, thank you so much for coming on

1799
01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:34,600
and helping us illuminate people on some crimson fists.

1800
01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:38,440
Obviously, the story of Pollux, of Cantor, of Cortez.

1801
01:52:38,640 --> 01:52:44,360
I hope you everyone enjoyed this and we've got some interesting topics

1802
01:52:44,360 --> 01:52:45,000
coming up soon.

1803
01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:48,560
I think soon it's our one year anniversary for coins, which is crazy

1804
01:52:48,560 --> 01:52:50,400
that it went that quickly.

1805
01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:54,360
We're not ready to feel that time passage go.

1806
01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:56,160
Sorry.

1807
01:52:56,680 --> 01:52:59,400
And with that being said, thank you so much for listening, guys.

1808
01:52:59,400 --> 01:53:02,280
And we will catch you all on the next one.

1809
01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:03,000
Peace.

1810
01:53:03,000 --> 01:53:03,760
Farewell.

1811
01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:04,240
Love you.

1812
01:53:04,240 --> 01:53:25,120
Bye.