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Well, it's a privilege for me to be able to stand

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up here to introduce Miriam Miriam correct me

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if I'm wrong, but your dad your father was a

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former pastor of literary of actual Bible for

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many years as radio program he was a real scholar

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and I've heard a lot of Through the church a

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lot of the good things about him and I appreciate

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his influence in your life and excited about

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what God is doing so Well that are there any

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like teenagers well then Then all of my questions

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are going to be for the adults. Okay. But that's,

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yeah. Okay. Then I'll start, I'll start with,

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oh dear, they have that on. Oh dear. Well good

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morning everyone. And I've so appreciated your

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all's prayers over the years. Yeah, after my

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dad died in a car accident It was then you came

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and were there at the church and Yeah, it's interesting

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what's happened over the years Then I'll start

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since the kids aren't here I'll start And just

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to kind of tell you all what's been happening.

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I'm officially retired But I'm going back four

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to six months out of the year. Two years now,

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I've gone back for six months. And it looks like

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maybe it'll be four months this time as a volunteer

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in the Shell Hospital, which is the Mission Hospital.

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And they now have a chaplaincy team, which there

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was one person, there was not a team. that person

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said well I'm only a chaplain for inpatient patients

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not for the clinic area and so the Lord has been

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working and now there's a chaplain team and so

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I may be phasing out of that what I have been

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doing over the years is When jungle people come

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in, because that's where my main focus was with

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the jungle people, when they come into the hospital,

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I kind of walk them through the system, because

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it's kind of scary, and a lot of times they don't

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have money. There's no way to earn a living in

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the jungle, but they have everything they need.

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They have family, they have roof over their head,

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they have food, and you show up at a family's

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house. they're automatically open to feeding

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you and taking care of you, which is a little

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different than here. Maybe a hundred years ago,

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that's what happened, but so I helped them walk

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through and we have a small pharmacy at the hospital,

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but many times we need to go into a pharmacy

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and buy the medicines for them and the Lord has

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provided money for that. ministry and I'm on

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WhatsApp and so they're calling me all the time

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and yes I'm sorry to interrupt so we're new what

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country are you oh sorry about that I'm sorry

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I'm in Ecuador South America and Ecuador gets

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its name from the equator because the equator

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runs right through Ecuador and It was HCJB, which

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are the call letters of a radio station. Now

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the radio station has their own Ecuadorian foundation.

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And HCJB, or Reach Beyond, as it's known now,

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is more focusing. They want to decrease their

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footprint. Missionaries have been in Ecuador

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for about 100 years. And so they figure it's

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time for the Ecuadorians to take over. Thank

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you for that question. And anybody else? Just

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ask. And so the hospital is no longer part of

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HCJB or Reach Beyond. It is now an Ecuadorian

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foundation that is recognized by the government.

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And that is very important because a couple of

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years ago there was a president who wanted to

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get rid of all foreign entities. And so this

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way, the hospital is recognized by the government

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and has legal rights to function. And a German

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surgeon who used to work in the hospital, he's

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now retired, he helped set up this foundation.

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And the leaders there are... faithful to the

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Lord and so this is it they're having a bit of

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a problem at the hospital because before there

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were a lot of missionary doctors and a lot of

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missionary nurses and the nurses and the missionaries

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have their own support but now they have they

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only have one missionary from Holland And he's

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a doctor, and he's going to be going back for

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a couple of months to Holland. And he is the

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only missionary who receives support from outside.

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So now the hospital is having to hire professionals,

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nurses, doctors, and so forth. And so they're

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having a bit of a difficult time. They do have

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day surgeries and sometimes those surgeries stay

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two or three nights, but they don't have regular

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inpatient like we did before just because of

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the financial covering for 24 hours of nurses

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and docs. So please be praying for the hospital

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that the leaders there would have wisdom. and

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knowing what to do and then then the government

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comes in and says um you need and they just updated

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the operating room but that wasn't good enough

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and so they had to redo the floors and redo all

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of the walls and that was quite expensive too

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um so these are things um money speaks a lot

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but god owns the cattle on a thousand hills and

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he is able to intervene. Okay. Okay, that's for

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later. Any other questions about what I've just

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said? The hospital you say is one of the entrances,

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it does need help? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And

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I can give you that information. There's a foundation,

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a tax deductible foundation here in the US that

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receives money that will go to the hospital.

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How big is the hospital? Had about 40 beds and

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I don't know the exact number of doctors. They're

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looking for specialists, and sometimes specialists

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will come just for like a couple hours in the

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morning, two days a week. And we have a pediatrician,

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we have some surgeons, and other specialties.

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So, I'll share something else that's difficult.

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My boss down there, the director of the department

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where I... in Shell. He's Ecuadorian and he wanted

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me to funnel all of the patients that came to

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me to the Ecuadorian health care system and it

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is a socialist system and the indigenous people

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are not really respected. They're not quite human

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in some people's eyes and so that has made it

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difficult. So I started asking people when they

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came to me, what have you been to the clinic?

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Oh yes, I went four times. Now, I don't know

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if this is true. This is just what I was told.

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Went four times and all they do is give me Tylenol.

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And then another lady came and I said, have you

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been to the health department? She said, oh yes.

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They gave me an appointment for two weeks. And

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she said, I'll either be better or dead by then.

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So they are not treated well. Now, there's a

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social worker in community development, community,

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ministries in Shell. And if she goes with them,

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they're treated very well. But she can't be everywhere

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at once. And so that makes it a little bit difficult.

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That's kind of why I feel like I should be there

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in Ecuador to help people when I can. We need

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to pray about that, don't we? Yeah. So what happens

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at the Mission Hospital, you can come in, you

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get your appointment. You can walk in and get

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appointments. And a doctor will see you. If it's

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a specialist, it might take longer. You can get

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lab work done. You can get x -rays done We need

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an echo tech echo sonogram or how do you say

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that? Well Yeah, we can do EKG's but then they

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send them to Cardiologist, huh? Echo cart, that's

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for the heart. What's it when you just check

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your Ultrasounds that's the name of it. Yeah,

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we call them echoes, but they're ultrasounds

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and You can get we need an ultrasound tech So

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that it can be taken care of there and not have

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to send them to Puyo Which is kind of scary for

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people when you come out of the jungle and so

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They can get everything done Leave with a tentative

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diagnosis. Not always can you do a diagnosis

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that same day if you need other tests and leave

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with medicines and so in one day and that just

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I Just feel a lot more comfortable with that

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instead of sending people away who are hurting

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So yeah, please be in prayer for the hospital

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So Lord willing when I go back last year, I didn't

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make any jungle trips Because my knee was really

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bad and I thank the Lord for physical therapy

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that I've been able to get I have two more weeks

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of physical therapy. And so my knee is a lot

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more stable and and hurts less So I'm hoping

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to get back to some of the jungle communities

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But then also be available for those people from

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the jungle that come out that need help. When

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I went down there, it was really interesting.

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I was still applying to the mission. I guess

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I had been accepted and I wrote the mission director.

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I said, there's an opportunity to be a nurse

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practitioner, to go into a course with a nurse

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practitioner. And he says, go for it. Well, I

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don't know. I did not know. And I don't think

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he knew, but the Lord was guiding him. And with

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my nurse practitioner training, I was able to

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do the jungle work. And for many years until

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about 10 years ago, I was able to look at the

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patients, diagnose them, give them antibiotics.

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or whatever it was that they needed. Now, the

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last 10 years, the socialistic government said,

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no, you're a nurse. They don't know what nurse

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practitioners or physicians assistant. That is

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out of their realm. And you can't diagnose. You

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can't prescribe medicines. So I'm very thankful

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for that training. And God knew that I would

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need that. So what I was doing until about 10

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years ago was training village health workers.

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And a lot of it was prevention. Some of it was

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teaching them how to give the relevant information

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over the radio, over a two -way radio that MAF

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has, Mission Aviation Fellowship. and be able

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to send in medicines when it's necessary, or

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bring out the patient to the hospital. So I was

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training village health workers with the shwar,

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the atshwar, the kichwa, and the wawrani, formerly

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known as alkas. So that's what I was doing for

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a lot of time. This is not anything that I had

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planned to say, but I'll say this. Okay, I interrupted

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myself, sorry. So it's been wonderful. One of

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the communities that I went to, one of my health

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promoters was now the church leader in that community.

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So I asked him, I said, are you still working

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as a village health worker? And he said, no,

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and just waited. And I did not respond because

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I didn't want to be negative. I don't know all

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of the situation that he's facing. And then after

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a silence, he said, but I've taught everything

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you taught me to my son. And he's the village

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health worker. I just got chills again thinking

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about that because some have been able to pass

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that on and that is important. I'm glad he's

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a church leader. He just didn't have time to

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do the other health issues as well. So be praying

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for the jungle people. They need good strong

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leaders in their churches and they also need

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to continue to be concerned about their communities.

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One of the issues is a lot of the parents want

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their kids to be educated. In the jungle they

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have up to sixth grade and so a lot of times

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those kids come out to the big city which isn't

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that big. It's by the hospital. It's maybe 3

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,000 people. But they come out and they don't

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want to be known as indigenous or Indians because

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they're looked down on. So they're changing the

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way they appear so that they'll fit in with the

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dominant culture. The problem is that a lot of

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the girls get pregnant. then they give their

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baby to the mom in the jungle for the mom to

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raise and they want to fit in with the and get

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their high school education. If the last two

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years of high school what you can do is go into

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teaching and then you have another two years

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and then you get a teaching certificate. So a

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lot of the people are wanting to do that. A lot

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of the teens from the jungle. But it's really

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sad because they come out and they get teaching

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of evolution and they get a lot of godless teaching

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and it's just really sad to see the young people.

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Whereas the Alka or the Waorani Indians and most

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of some of you might know about that back in

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1956. there were five missionaries who were speared

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by the Alka Indians and this little spear here

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is made by them but it's a miniature and it's

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got beveled edges here and this is what they

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what they do only their spears are 10 to 12 feet

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long and they even have identity that you can

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tell what family they're from by the, what do

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you call these? The, yeah. And then on the other

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end is individual persons. So that if you find

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a dead body in the jungle with a spear in them,

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you know who did it. You know what family they're

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from, you know. the individual that did it. Now

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this doesn't have that on this end, but it's

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how this little, how these little wrappings are

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wrapped so that you know the individual. This

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I'm going to leave here for the church. So that's

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just as a prayer reminder. And I don't know who

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did it, but somebody put out birds. and all kinds

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of things. Now this, this is Quechua and if you're

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from Peru it's Quechua because the dialect is

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a little different. So if you hear Quechua and

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you think, she's not pronouncing it right, and

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Quechua is in Peru and Bolivia and Quechua is

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in Ecuador. And this is the kind of woven things

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that they... They do that by hand, that weave

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and stuff. Oh yes, yeah. Not so much now, but

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when I first went there, yeah. Yes. And then

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you have a little quichua doll here. And there's

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lots of llamas in that whole area. Not so many

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in Ecuador, but in the highlands you find it.

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And it's 13, 15 ,000 feet going over. Let's see

00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:38.329
what else. And they use a lot of the pottery

00:20:38.329 --> 00:20:44.029
and so forth too. Till now, are there any questions?

00:20:44.549 --> 00:20:47.190
I have a question. Yes? You're talking about

00:20:47.190 --> 00:20:50.890
the teens going into schools and stuff. If you

00:20:50.890 --> 00:20:53.549
get enough of the teens that get their teaching

00:20:53.549 --> 00:20:55.910
certificate, is it possible for them to learn

00:20:55.910 --> 00:20:58.529
to be able to teach grades higher than six? Oh

00:20:58.529 --> 00:21:02.289
yes. Yeah, that's the whole point. Yeah. And

00:21:02.289 --> 00:21:05.289
some of them are wanting to go back into the

00:21:05.289 --> 00:21:08.519
jungle. so that the people don't have to leave

00:21:08.519 --> 00:21:14.240
their families. And so, yes, those especially

00:21:14.240 --> 00:21:18.599
the believers. But pray for the teens that come

00:21:18.599 --> 00:21:21.299
out to get their teaching degrees or some of

00:21:21.299 --> 00:21:24.920
them are doing other things like computer science,

00:21:26.380 --> 00:21:30.599
tourism, and getting their degrees so that they

00:21:30.599 --> 00:21:37.750
can have an income. So yes, there's a lot of

00:21:37.750 --> 00:21:41.549
different things. There's a number of different

00:21:41.549 --> 00:21:45.470
languages that they use? Yes. Now I can't speak

00:21:45.470 --> 00:21:51.289
for Peru and Bolivia, but in Ecuador there are

00:21:51.289 --> 00:21:56.710
eight main languages other than Spanish. And

00:21:56.710 --> 00:22:04.809
some of them are similar. and they can understand

00:22:04.809 --> 00:22:07.329
each other and others are completely different.

00:22:07.509 --> 00:22:09.329
Like the K 'ichwa is completely different from

00:22:09.329 --> 00:22:12.869
the At -shuar and the Shuar. And Shibiar, that's

00:22:12.869 --> 00:22:18.269
another one that's... And then the Auqa is from

00:22:18.269 --> 00:22:25.210
Wycliffe Bible translators. The Auqa or the Waorani

00:22:25.210 --> 00:22:29.650
language is completely unrelated to any other

00:22:29.650 --> 00:22:38.940
language in the world. Yeah. So they have been

00:22:38.940 --> 00:22:45.420
isolated for so many years. And the alka means

00:22:45.420 --> 00:22:49.720
savage. So I try not to use that word down there.

00:22:50.140 --> 00:22:56.920
It seems like it's very derogatory. And now they're

00:22:56.920 --> 00:22:59.539
wawrani, which means the people in their own

00:22:59.539 --> 00:23:05.660
language. So we are the people. And that's there.

00:23:06.079 --> 00:23:08.779
One thing that's sad about the Waworani Indians,

00:23:09.380 --> 00:23:15.559
when the missionaries were killed, then Rachel

00:23:15.559 --> 00:23:18.079
Saint, who was the sister of one of the fellows

00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:21.119
that was speared, and Elizabeth Elliott, who

00:23:21.119 --> 00:23:23.700
is the wife of one of the men that was speared,

00:23:24.039 --> 00:23:30.680
they went back into the jungle. And they... Had

00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:35.539
to learn the language had to work from nothing

00:23:35.539 --> 00:23:43.420
to work with them and The reason I'm smiling

00:23:43.420 --> 00:23:47.240
is because there's a problem with missionaries

00:23:47.240 --> 00:23:51.539
because a lot of the missionaries are leaders

00:23:51.539 --> 00:23:56.759
and They need to be but then you have these strong

00:23:56.759 --> 00:24:00.940
personalities that butt heads And this is what

00:24:00.940 --> 00:24:03.400
happened with Elizabeth Elliott and Rachel Saint.

00:24:03.859 --> 00:24:10.460
They didn't agree on things, and it's sad. That

00:24:10.460 --> 00:24:13.980
happens here in the U .S. too. And churches split

00:24:13.980 --> 00:24:20.559
over sometimes what we would think trivial things.

00:24:22.200 --> 00:24:25.250
So pray for your missionaries. that they would

00:24:25.250 --> 00:24:27.130
be sensitive to the other missionaries, that

00:24:27.130 --> 00:24:29.910
they would be sensitive to the people, and let

00:24:29.910 --> 00:24:32.150
the people take the leadership when it's their

00:24:32.150 --> 00:24:36.329
turn. It's easy for us missionaries to think

00:24:36.329 --> 00:24:42.549
that we know it all and we don't. So, okay, any

00:24:42.549 --> 00:24:44.750
other? Yeah, I got a question. In the jungle,

00:24:45.569 --> 00:24:50.069
do you ever see them coming in with, like, speedbikes?

00:24:50.630 --> 00:24:55.220
Oh, yes. I think they got a poisonous frog. Okay,

00:24:55.400 --> 00:24:59.299
that's more in Columbia. Okay. I've never seen

00:24:59.299 --> 00:25:05.859
anybody bitten by a or They they it the poison

00:25:05.859 --> 00:25:10.440
is in the skin and In Columbia and in other parts

00:25:10.440 --> 00:25:14.339
they use that for poison darts when they go hunting

00:25:14.339 --> 00:25:18.779
But that's not been a real issue snake bites

00:25:18.779 --> 00:25:24.710
are a definite issue Yes, yeah and I'll have

00:25:24.710 --> 00:25:27.529
to tell you something really funny about the

00:25:27.529 --> 00:25:32.970
snake, well, come. I was walking down the hall,

00:25:33.769 --> 00:25:37.309
just kind of talking to myself, and there's a

00:25:37.309 --> 00:25:41.710
snake bite season. And so I think, oh, why are

00:25:41.710 --> 00:25:45.069
there so many snake bites right now? And the

00:25:45.069 --> 00:25:49.130
lady that was in the hall, she said, Don't you

00:25:49.130 --> 00:25:53.710
know I'm supposed to know everything Don't you

00:25:53.710 --> 00:25:59.990
know and I said no why and she said it's because

00:25:59.990 --> 00:26:02.769
the resurrection celebration of the resurrection

00:26:02.769 --> 00:26:08.609
is coming and Satan is angry and It's there's

00:26:08.609 --> 00:26:11.470
a season where there's more snake bites and it's

00:26:11.470 --> 00:26:17.519
right before Easter and so Yeah, don't you know?

00:26:20.440 --> 00:26:27.920
I mean it's very obvious. So, I'm not sure. I

00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:30.039
might have learned more from them than they learned

00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:35.460
from me. So, we both were learning together.

00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:43.460
So, oh dear. Let me start with what I was gonna

00:26:43.460 --> 00:26:49.420
do for the kids. Okay, um now this this is miniature

00:26:49.420 --> 00:26:55.839
This is a miniature net there this is for fishing

00:26:55.839 --> 00:27:00.000
and They it's a big net about this big and then

00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:03.700
the women depending on how long they're their

00:27:03.700 --> 00:27:08.140
arm is that's how deep it would be and So they

00:27:08.140 --> 00:27:19.190
go fishing and they use a poison that It's it's

00:27:19.190 --> 00:27:22.529
a route and they take the route and they beat

00:27:22.529 --> 00:27:26.930
it in the river upstream and it's a white milky

00:27:26.930 --> 00:27:31.089
liquid and The men are at the top and they're

00:27:31.089 --> 00:27:35.170
using their spears because there's It's a sport

00:27:35.170 --> 00:27:39.349
and so then further down are the women with their

00:27:39.349 --> 00:27:42.440
fish nets and they, a lot of times they'll have

00:27:42.440 --> 00:27:44.619
a basket on their back and then they'll put the

00:27:44.619 --> 00:27:48.200
fish in there or they'll put a piece of vine

00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:51.859
through the gills and keep the fish that way.

00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:55.400
And then down further, where this little stream

00:27:55.400 --> 00:27:59.900
meets a big river, they have put bamboo stakes

00:27:59.900 --> 00:28:04.059
so the fish can't escape, the water can escape,

00:28:04.099 --> 00:28:07.640
but not the fish. And so then down at the bottom

00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:14.430
part, The women who are pregnant, or the old

00:28:14.430 --> 00:28:19.269
ladies, or ladies that have little kids, they'll

00:28:19.269 --> 00:28:22.509
be at the very bottom. And then they can catch

00:28:22.509 --> 00:28:26.190
the fish. And then afterwards, it's a day -long

00:28:26.190 --> 00:28:30.029
thing. Afterwards, everybody gets together and

00:28:30.029 --> 00:28:33.490
starts cleaning the fish. And then the fish gets

00:28:33.490 --> 00:28:38.809
smoked. This is kind of the story of the fishnet.

00:28:38.910 --> 00:28:40.690
And what I was going to do with the kids, I wasn't

00:28:40.690 --> 00:28:46.190
going to tell them all that. Do they do that

00:28:46.190 --> 00:28:49.549
as a community? Yes. Or as individuals? You can't

00:28:49.549 --> 00:28:54.730
chew fish, that's your fish. Well, they do it

00:28:54.730 --> 00:29:00.309
as a community group. And I'm not sure how they

00:29:00.309 --> 00:29:07.369
separate it up. Since almost everybody in the

00:29:07.369 --> 00:29:12.069
community are relatives. So then you know, that's

00:29:12.069 --> 00:29:16.569
and I don't understand the other language Spanish

00:29:16.569 --> 00:29:19.990
I can handle but so they're probably Deciding

00:29:19.990 --> 00:29:25.789
all of that and I was unaware of it. Okay My

00:29:25.789 --> 00:29:30.210
question for the little kids was okay Do they

00:29:30.210 --> 00:29:35.519
have fishnets in the Bible? Okay, so I want you

00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:37.980
all to tell me, okay, where does it talk about

00:29:37.980 --> 00:29:41.539
fishnets in the Bible? Peter, he was a fisherman,

00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:44.619
he had nets. Exactly. Peter, James, and John.

00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:53.960
Okay. Okay. So, and then what were the disciples

00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:59.019
taught? You will be fishers of men. Okay. So

00:29:59.019 --> 00:30:04.420
that was a little thing for the kids. And then

00:30:04.420 --> 00:30:07.700
the next thing was the spear. Do we have spears

00:30:07.700 --> 00:30:13.160
in the Bible? Yeah. Okay. Jesus' side was punched

00:30:13.160 --> 00:30:17.519
with the spear. Okay. Jesus' side. After he was

00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:22.380
already dead and out came blood and water. So

00:30:22.380 --> 00:30:27.779
it had separated and that shows the death. So

00:30:27.779 --> 00:30:41.210
where else would there be spears? Okay, the thorn

00:30:41.210 --> 00:30:44.910
in the flesh, and in Sunday school class you

00:30:44.910 --> 00:30:48.369
were talking about difficult times. And sometimes

00:30:48.369 --> 00:30:52.990
these thorns make us more like Him, create His

00:30:52.990 --> 00:31:00.410
image in us. Yeah. But when you're in the middle

00:31:00.410 --> 00:31:09.660
of it, you don't like it. Okay, this is a headdress.

00:31:12.140 --> 00:31:17.759
The Indians like to put in feathers and feathers

00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:21.000
are a little hard to explain to some people because

00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:25.619
they say, well, you kill those birds. So this

00:31:25.619 --> 00:31:30.660
is just a headdress. Do we have any mention of

00:31:30.660 --> 00:31:36.019
headdresses or crowns in the Bible? Okay, what

00:31:36.019 --> 00:31:44.279
give me examples of the crowns Yeah, okay, there's

00:31:44.279 --> 00:31:49.940
the crown of thorns yes We can work for crown

00:31:49.940 --> 00:31:53.400
we give crowns and then we Throw our crowns at

00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:56.440
his feet. Yeah, we throw our crowns at his feet

00:31:56.440 --> 00:32:02.000
Okay And then someone was playing the flute I

00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:19.720
think And this is, where did it go? Here. Okay,

00:32:19.980 --> 00:32:23.059
now this is small. The ones that the Highland

00:32:23.059 --> 00:32:29.579
Keech was used are about this long. So you can

00:32:29.579 --> 00:32:32.740
play songs on this. And it's kind of like a flute.

00:32:33.630 --> 00:32:38.589
What, not necessarily flutes, but what do musical

00:32:38.589 --> 00:32:44.289
instruments mean in the Bible? Was it praise?

00:32:44.789 --> 00:32:47.789
Praise? Praising the Lord, yeah. How often in

00:32:47.789 --> 00:32:51.269
the Psalms it talks about praising the Lord.

00:32:53.049 --> 00:32:58.329
So this is something that's important with the

00:32:58.329 --> 00:33:04.400
fellowship. the community praise to the Lord.

00:33:05.099 --> 00:33:07.380
We as individuals should praise the Lord, but

00:33:07.380 --> 00:33:13.059
also as a group. Okay, let's see what else comes

00:33:13.059 --> 00:33:19.099
up. Okay, baskets. Are baskets mentioned in the

00:33:19.099 --> 00:33:23.180
Bible? Yes. Okay, give me some examples. I was

00:33:23.180 --> 00:33:25.839
going to try to get these kids to do those things.

00:33:32.009 --> 00:33:38.569
Yes, yes, and so there's there's many examples

00:33:38.569 --> 00:33:43.029
of baskets in the Bible and yet these are things

00:33:43.029 --> 00:33:46.910
that are common to them and when Jesus preached

00:33:46.910 --> 00:33:52.710
are taught He used things that were known to

00:33:52.710 --> 00:33:56.829
get them to the unknown Like the harvest the

00:33:56.829 --> 00:33:59.720
harvest is plenteous But the labors are few.

00:33:59.920 --> 00:34:06.299
They knew about harvest. And so that's what I

00:34:06.299 --> 00:34:08.559
was going to try to do with the kids. I don't

00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:11.280
know. This might have been beyond them. I don't

00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:16.460
know. So then the basket. And then how many baskets

00:34:16.460 --> 00:34:20.340
were taken up after Jesus multiplied? Twelve

00:34:20.340 --> 00:34:26.400
and seven. And there was a time when I thought...

00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:30.599
Hey, these Gospels don't agree. But there's one

00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:36.519
Gospel that has both accounts. And so that confirms

00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:43.780
the validity of the Bible. Okay. And there's

00:34:43.780 --> 00:34:48.019
another. The Waorani did not wear a lot of clothes.

00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:53.199
They had cotton that they planted and they used

00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:59.829
it for armbands. The Shuar men had little short

00:34:59.829 --> 00:35:05.030
skirts. The women had longer skirts that they

00:35:05.030 --> 00:35:07.530
used to make out of the cotton that grows in

00:35:07.530 --> 00:35:13.869
the jungle. And I don't know if I have, if I

00:35:13.869 --> 00:35:20.929
brought that here. But anyway, there's, and I

00:35:20.929 --> 00:35:27.789
didn't look it up. I have this for later. that

00:35:27.789 --> 00:35:32.329
Though a Bible says with food and clothing be

00:35:32.329 --> 00:35:36.429
content But some people say that that and I'm

00:35:36.429 --> 00:35:39.849
not a Greek scholar or anything, but that that

00:35:39.849 --> 00:35:45.730
means food and covering so that could be a Roof

00:35:45.730 --> 00:35:49.289
over your head or the clothing it could it could

00:35:49.289 --> 00:35:56.269
apply to both? and then Christ said, or Jesus

00:35:56.269 --> 00:36:01.650
said, He had no place to lay His head. And He

00:36:01.650 --> 00:36:05.610
didn't own anything. But God always provided

00:36:05.610 --> 00:36:10.449
a place. And God can provide for us as well.

00:36:11.989 --> 00:36:15.449
Okay. Oh dear. I'm never going to get through

00:36:15.449 --> 00:36:20.909
all of this. Okay. Then I was going to ask them

00:36:20.909 --> 00:36:27.969
about robots. You know, who made robots? Man,

00:36:28.090 --> 00:36:35.329
man made robots. What do robots do? What man

00:36:35.329 --> 00:36:39.570
tells them to do, okay. We are not robots. We

00:36:39.570 --> 00:36:44.889
have a choice. And in the jungle I use this.

00:36:45.150 --> 00:36:49.329
Who built this canoe? And they tell me the name

00:36:49.329 --> 00:36:52.500
of the guy or the family. that built the dugout

00:36:52.500 --> 00:36:57.820
canoe and well who has the right to say who can

00:36:57.820 --> 00:37:02.420
go in that canoe or same thing for a house if

00:37:02.420 --> 00:37:06.000
you have built your house then you have the right

00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:10.579
to say no don't want you coming or yes you are

00:37:10.579 --> 00:37:15.099
very welcome here and so I was going to use that

00:37:15.099 --> 00:37:23.820
with the kids just to say We are not robots we

00:37:23.820 --> 00:37:27.139
have a right to decide who comes in and is in

00:37:27.139 --> 00:37:31.179
control of our life and Those are decisions.

00:37:31.179 --> 00:37:34.980
God doesn't force us to accept him, but he's

00:37:34.980 --> 00:37:43.940
offered his love Them Okay Then I wanted to share

00:37:43.940 --> 00:37:49.380
a little bit about Dawa Dawa was the wife of

00:37:49.380 --> 00:37:51.579
one of the fellows who killed the missionaries,

00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:54.659
who speared the missionaries. And she and the

00:37:54.659 --> 00:38:00.139
other women were up on a little hill watching,

00:38:01.900 --> 00:38:05.659
watching when this was happening. And she said,

00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:09.519
before the missionaries came, I didn't sleep

00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:13.460
very well, because the Waorani, or the Alcas,

00:38:14.139 --> 00:38:18.489
came and speared at night. And so she said, I

00:38:18.489 --> 00:38:24.329
never did sleep well until the missionaries told

00:38:24.329 --> 00:38:29.829
me that Christ forgave me and that I can forgive

00:38:29.829 --> 00:38:34.230
those people. And right there was the man who

00:38:34.230 --> 00:38:38.190
had killed her father. And yet they were in the

00:38:38.190 --> 00:38:44.530
same location. And they were now believers. And

00:38:44.530 --> 00:38:48.239
also, There was no word for forgiveness with

00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:51.800
the Waorani. It's just revenge, like the Hatfields

00:38:51.800 --> 00:38:55.780
and the Mukoys. And there was no word for forgiveness.

00:38:56.579 --> 00:39:01.079
And so a missionary who was trying to work with

00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:07.039
them tried to explain what forgiveness is. And

00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:14.219
I don't know if it was Dayuma? or if it was somebody

00:39:14.219 --> 00:39:19.179
else, but they said, oh, that's love. So they

00:39:19.179 --> 00:39:22.239
were equating forgiveness with love, and love

00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:24.960
your enemies? Ooh, that's hard sometimes. Yeah,

00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:34.039
it is hard. Okay. Okay, he loved the, what the

00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:38.840
father's love has for us, so that we can be called

00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:41.849
his children. and he sacrificed his only son

00:39:41.849 --> 00:39:48.889
on the cross. And that is love, even though...

00:39:48.889 --> 00:39:51.769
And he forgave the people who were killing him,

00:39:51.849 --> 00:39:54.750
who had beaten him, who had put that crown of

00:39:54.750 --> 00:39:58.670
thorns on his head. Okay, I got ahead of myself.

00:40:03.510 --> 00:40:11.500
I wanted to talk about shoes. Now these are the

00:40:11.500 --> 00:40:14.679
these are the Highland Kichwa shoes and at that

00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:16.880
time you just couldn't go and buy a pair of shoes

00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:21.400
and so they took rope and Made shoes and you

00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:24.559
can come up and look at these things later and

00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:34.900
then later on They would take tires and make

00:40:34.900 --> 00:40:38.659
the soles from the tires And then, of course,

00:40:38.659 --> 00:40:42.679
this is hand -woven. And so you can come and

00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:47.039
look at these shoes a little bit later. Now,

00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:52.019
where in the Bible does it talk about shoes?

00:40:59.699 --> 00:41:12.800
Okay. Any others? Yes, the gospel of peace. So

00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:17.159
this is, it's so interesting because that's what

00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:21.219
Jesus did. He took things from the ordinary and

00:41:21.219 --> 00:41:28.440
made application to the people. And that's what

00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:30.619
I've tried to do. I haven't always been so good

00:41:30.619 --> 00:41:35.219
at it. In Ecuador, they know I'm a foreigner.

00:41:35.739 --> 00:41:39.400
They most of them know I'm a missionary so it's

00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:43.219
okay I'll talk about the Lord and they'll listen

00:41:43.219 --> 00:41:46.519
politely not everybody agrees with me, but they'll

00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:50.800
listen politely but coming back here to the states

00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:56.360
and seeing my neighbors and and talking to people

00:41:56.360 --> 00:42:00.340
that's hard I Don't know if you all have experienced

00:42:00.340 --> 00:42:04.519
that or not and when I first came back The lady

00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:07.860
across the street who's from China, her mother

00:42:07.860 --> 00:42:11.079
used to live in the house with her and she's

00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:16.280
passed on. And I felt a burden for her, so I

00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:20.320
got a Chinese Bible for her and gave her the

00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:24.019
Bible. Well, when I came back this year, the

00:42:24.019 --> 00:42:26.079
first time I ran into her on the street, she

00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:34.550
walks her dogs. She said, now your mother, essentially

00:42:34.550 --> 00:42:37.429
tried to evangelize and so she was just letting

00:42:37.429 --> 00:42:39.869
me know she didn't want to hear any of this she

00:42:39.869 --> 00:42:42.309
didn't want to know any of this and just keep

00:42:42.309 --> 00:42:46.070
quiet and I hadn't even said anything but because

00:42:46.070 --> 00:42:49.389
of the Bible now I don't know what effect that

00:42:49.389 --> 00:42:54.030
Bible had but it was in Chinese and I'm hoping

00:42:54.030 --> 00:42:58.329
and praying that the Lord used that but the daughter

00:42:58.329 --> 00:43:02.210
wanted nothing to do with that And I'm sure that

00:43:02.210 --> 00:43:06.210
you have found that too. And if you talk to them,

00:43:06.210 --> 00:43:11.849
well, about building a canoe or building a house,

00:43:12.469 --> 00:43:18.550
so the builder is able to have the say. Well,

00:43:18.550 --> 00:43:22.250
God created the world, but now nobody believes

00:43:22.250 --> 00:43:26.070
that anymore. or they believe it was 15 million

00:43:26.070 --> 00:43:29.889
years ago, and all of this stuff happened on

00:43:29.889 --> 00:43:37.610
its own. And so it's really hard to witness to

00:43:37.610 --> 00:43:41.289
people and say, well, do you go to a church?

00:43:41.510 --> 00:43:44.869
And I'd ask this of another neighbor, and she

00:43:44.869 --> 00:43:48.909
goes to a, yeah, my spiritual experience is,

00:43:49.210 --> 00:43:53.500
but it was one of these. I'm not sure exactly

00:43:53.500 --> 00:43:56.539
what the name of the church was but it was the

00:43:56.539 --> 00:43:59.900
spiritual and the meditation and and all of this

00:43:59.900 --> 00:44:03.079
stuff and it's just it's hard to relate to that.

00:44:03.079 --> 00:44:07.539
So I would ask for prayers as for all of us that

00:44:07.539 --> 00:44:10.559
we would have wisdom to know what questions to

00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:14.380
ask and how to interact with our neighbors because

00:44:14.380 --> 00:44:20.719
they need the Lord as well. And then I was going

00:44:20.719 --> 00:44:23.739
to close with, weave a story to tell to the nations.

00:44:26.559 --> 00:44:31.699
Any other questions before I... You talk a lot

00:44:31.699 --> 00:44:37.519
about the jungle. When I picture a jungle, I

00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:40.500
picture a machete going through and having to

00:44:40.500 --> 00:44:45.800
cut vines. You had mentioned cotton. Do they

00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:47.980
grow that cotton or do they just harvest the

00:44:47.980 --> 00:44:53.070
cotton? If they find it, then they will actually

00:44:53.070 --> 00:45:00.590
put it near their houses and plant it. Because

00:45:00.590 --> 00:45:03.409
before there was no communication with the outside

00:45:03.409 --> 00:45:08.050
world. And so they had to do everything. Clothes,

00:45:08.530 --> 00:45:17.380
food, they had to do everything. True. Now there

00:45:17.380 --> 00:45:21.480
are roads in some of the places. But that's got

00:45:21.480 --> 00:45:23.980
its disadvantages. People were saying, oh good,

00:45:24.019 --> 00:45:27.139
now we can take our bananas and sell them in

00:45:27.139 --> 00:45:29.860
the city. We can take the plantainos and the

00:45:29.860 --> 00:45:33.440
papayas and the pineapples and all of this stuff.

00:45:33.980 --> 00:45:37.960
But then the trucks that come in bring in beer

00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:43.500
and other things that are detrimental. And now...

00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:51.019
Now they have, some of the communities have internet

00:45:51.019 --> 00:45:56.079
and so there's all kinds of garbage that it's

00:45:56.079 --> 00:45:59.039
good because the people can talk to me and say

00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:02.280
I'm sick and I'll call the hospital and say so

00:46:02.280 --> 00:46:04.780
and so is coming and please take care of their

00:46:04.780 --> 00:46:09.820
bill. I'll arrange later. But all this other

00:46:09.820 --> 00:46:13.519
garbage that's coming in is distracting the people.

00:46:15.140 --> 00:46:17.880
from even wanting to know the Lord, they think,

00:46:18.360 --> 00:46:21.159
you know, even the kids that come out and are

00:46:21.159 --> 00:46:24.179
educated, they think, well, I know more than

00:46:24.179 --> 00:46:28.860
my parents. And so there are valuable things

00:46:28.860 --> 00:46:35.039
in the culture, like the family unit and respect

00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:39.659
for elders. And now a lot of that is disappearing

00:46:39.659 --> 00:46:48.949
because of the changes. Yes, yeah Now somebody

00:46:48.949 --> 00:46:52.889
I think it was you asked about snake bites, okay

00:46:52.889 --> 00:47:00.010
They have what they a bushmaster and the ekis

00:47:00.010 --> 00:47:06.449
which that's their name for it and It's it's

00:47:06.449 --> 00:47:09.929
a very very poisonous snake and even the babies

00:47:09.929 --> 00:47:14.809
when they first hatch They are very venomous

00:47:14.809 --> 00:47:18.349
as they have as much venom as their parents that

00:47:18.349 --> 00:47:25.630
are much longer. I used to really be afraid to

00:47:25.630 --> 00:47:28.610
go to the jungle because of the snakes. And when

00:47:28.610 --> 00:47:32.469
I would get off the plane at Missionary Aviation

00:47:32.469 --> 00:47:35.130
Fellowship plane, I'd go to the schoolhouse.

00:47:35.389 --> 00:47:37.750
That's where we would see patients. That's where

00:47:37.750 --> 00:47:41.889
I slept. And for the longest time, I did not

00:47:41.889 --> 00:47:48.480
go. out except when I needed to, but not very

00:47:48.480 --> 00:47:53.940
far. And it was very interesting. God has a sense

00:47:53.940 --> 00:47:57.300
of humor. And while I was in the jungle, I never,

00:47:57.619 --> 00:48:00.360
at that period of time, I didn't see a snake.

00:48:02.900 --> 00:48:06.360
But two snakes on separate occasions came into

00:48:06.360 --> 00:48:09.519
my apartment in Shell, which was near the hospital.

00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:17.469
And so it's like, Miriam, if you're where I want

00:48:17.469 --> 00:48:22.650
you to be, you'll be safe until the time comes.

00:48:24.170 --> 00:48:27.349
And so that's another thing that was very interesting

00:48:27.349 --> 00:48:36.409
to me. Anyway, that's another thing. Any other

00:48:36.409 --> 00:48:39.929
comments or questions? Well I've heard that snakes

00:48:39.929 --> 00:48:41.889
are more afraid of you than you are of them.

00:48:44.059 --> 00:48:48.119
Some snakes, it's true. If they're corals, they'll

00:48:48.119 --> 00:48:53.420
run. But there are other snakes, and some of

00:48:53.420 --> 00:48:55.739
them are in Ecuador, because there was a missionary

00:48:55.739 --> 00:48:59.000
who ran into a snake, and then she started running

00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:02.980
away from the snake. At that time, we all wore

00:49:02.980 --> 00:49:10.260
skirts. And the snake chased her and actually

00:49:10.260 --> 00:49:17.980
got the hem of her... Garment. So, yes, most

00:49:17.980 --> 00:49:24.300
of them don't want confrontation, but some of

00:49:24.300 --> 00:49:32.559
them are very aggressive. Most people don't like

00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:39.860
them, I guess. Yes. In Ecuador, there's a saying

00:49:40.119 --> 00:49:47.980
The only good snake is a dead snake. But the

00:49:47.980 --> 00:49:51.300
black snakes are very good. I mean they take

00:49:51.300 --> 00:49:55.579
care of mice and rats and they'll even eat poisonous

00:49:55.579 --> 00:50:07.219
snakes and they're not affected. The thought

00:50:07.219 --> 00:50:10.219
just occurred to me this was not... thought of

00:50:10.219 --> 00:50:13.840
before is that if we can be more like the black

00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:19.480
snake when people come at us and We don't react

00:50:19.480 --> 00:50:25.659
we don't They might have venomous words and yet

00:50:25.659 --> 00:50:28.519
their venom doesn't hurt the fat black snake

00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:36.420
and the black snake just Goes on so Yeah, anyway,

00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:46.610
okay So I think if you all want to come up, there's

00:50:46.610 --> 00:50:52.349
some pictures of the various animals there. There's

00:50:52.349 --> 00:50:57.210
this that I'm leaving. His call, it's a poem.

00:50:58.829 --> 00:51:02.710
See the fields. But seeing it only, there is

00:51:02.710 --> 00:51:05.929
work for you to do. And so these are some things

00:51:05.929 --> 00:51:10.070
that I can leave here for you all to take as

00:51:10.070 --> 00:51:16.860
you. would want. Anything else? When did the

00:51:16.860 --> 00:51:19.559
Lord start calling you into the mission field

00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:25.320
to do the work that you're doing? My dad was

00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:29.840
a pastor. You knew that. And so a lot of times

00:51:29.840 --> 00:51:34.179
we had missionaries stay at our house. So ever

00:51:34.179 --> 00:51:37.119
since I can remember, there were missionaries

00:51:37.119 --> 00:51:40.159
who came and told stories about the mission field.

00:51:41.300 --> 00:51:45.159
And so I think that was, that started it. But

00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:48.320
then there were two old -made missionaries that

00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:51.719
came and spoke at the church in Lakeland where

00:51:51.719 --> 00:51:57.000
I was born. And I don't remember anything. I

00:51:57.000 --> 00:52:01.639
remember two things that they said. One was they

00:52:01.639 --> 00:52:04.889
woke up one morning and all of the the people,

00:52:05.090 --> 00:52:08.010
they were missionaries in Africa. And everybody

00:52:08.010 --> 00:52:10.210
was out there talking and talking and talking

00:52:10.210 --> 00:52:12.949
and they went out to see what it was. And there

00:52:12.949 --> 00:52:16.989
was a huge lion footprints all around their house.

00:52:18.170 --> 00:52:21.230
And they had no windows, they had openings, but

00:52:21.230 --> 00:52:24.809
there was no way to close your windows. And you

00:52:24.809 --> 00:52:28.630
didn't want to because it was so hot there. And

00:52:28.630 --> 00:52:33.650
so here was these huge lion footprints. circling

00:52:33.650 --> 00:52:38.530
the house and nothing happened to them. And so

00:52:38.530 --> 00:52:43.530
God used that story to tell me that God's protection

00:52:43.530 --> 00:52:47.969
is with you if you know where you should be.

00:52:48.570 --> 00:52:52.050
And then the other story they said, if twins

00:52:52.050 --> 00:52:55.309
were born, they thought one was a human child

00:52:55.309 --> 00:52:58.630
and one was a demon child. And a lot of times

00:52:58.630 --> 00:53:01.389
they would kill them both. because they didn't

00:53:01.389 --> 00:53:04.710
know which was which, or they'd let them starve.

00:53:06.489 --> 00:53:10.690
And so, I remember while they were still speaking,

00:53:11.809 --> 00:53:14.690
inside of myself I said, I gotta go and tell

00:53:14.690 --> 00:53:19.489
them it's okay. That those are made in God's

00:53:19.489 --> 00:53:27.559
image. And that's, I guess this is the end. So

00:53:27.559 --> 00:53:29.900
anyway, I was just, I don't know if the kids

00:53:29.900 --> 00:53:35.000
know that song. We have a storage to tell to

00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:39.639
the nations. Where is it? So did they receive

00:53:39.639 --> 00:53:42.940
that information when you told them about the

00:53:42.940 --> 00:53:48.800
twins? There were twins that were born in Ecuador

00:53:48.800 --> 00:53:53.119
out in the jungle. And there were two, there

00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:55.949
were several sets of twins. Sometimes I didn't

00:53:55.949 --> 00:53:59.090
hear about it until after the fact. But they'll

00:53:59.090 --> 00:54:03.530
feed one. They'll choose one and feed one. And

00:54:03.530 --> 00:54:07.130
the interesting about this story is that the

00:54:07.130 --> 00:54:13.369
grandmother said, I'll take this one. Well, that

00:54:13.369 --> 00:54:17.570
one was not doing well. And they figured that

00:54:17.570 --> 00:54:20.369
they didn't have enough milk for both. And I

00:54:20.369 --> 00:54:23.369
said, oh, yes, your body will produce what's

00:54:23.369 --> 00:54:28.639
needed. And so anyway, the grandmother took the

00:54:28.639 --> 00:54:33.019
one kid and the kid was really, really bad. And

00:54:33.019 --> 00:54:38.519
I was scheduled to go in for a course, a health

00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:41.860
course with the health promoters. And it rained

00:54:41.860 --> 00:54:45.260
that day and I couldn't get in. But the lady

00:54:45.260 --> 00:54:48.900
also heard on the two -way radio that I was coming.

00:54:49.260 --> 00:54:52.489
So she brought both of the sick babies. to the

00:54:52.489 --> 00:54:54.869
community but I wasn't there because the plane

00:54:54.869 --> 00:54:59.989
didn't arrive. So my health promoter and they

00:54:59.989 --> 00:55:03.449
were both at the point of death I think and she

00:55:03.449 --> 00:55:07.610
was able to get them hydrated. She had a baby

00:55:07.610 --> 00:55:12.789
as well so she gave them her milk and it was

00:55:12.789 --> 00:55:15.230
it was just so neat because the health promoter

00:55:15.230 --> 00:55:17.289
came to me the next day and told me what the

00:55:17.289 --> 00:55:20.730
situation was. They still were not well completely

00:55:20.730 --> 00:55:24.969
but They made it through the night with the health

00:55:24.969 --> 00:55:30.889
promoter's attention. And then we mixed up some

00:55:30.889 --> 00:55:36.550
formula, which is you couldn't, at that point,

00:55:36.690 --> 00:55:43.809
you couldn't buy formula. But it's something

00:55:43.809 --> 00:55:50.110
that they had used in Africa for the babies.

00:55:50.940 --> 00:55:55.400
powdered milk and oil and what else was it there

00:55:55.400 --> 00:55:59.099
were three things and you make a concentrate

00:55:59.099 --> 00:56:03.800
and then You able to feed and they made it to

00:56:03.800 --> 00:56:06.880
their teen years. I haven't I don't know about

00:56:06.880 --> 00:56:14.780
them now but they they made it and so that's

00:56:14.780 --> 00:56:18.159
There's been a lot of blessings that I've had

00:56:18.159 --> 00:56:21.630
in my own experiences And I'm just very thankful

00:56:21.630 --> 00:56:23.710
for that. And I better shut up.
