WEBVTT 00:00:04.639 --> 00:00:08.000 Today, my guest has more energy than anybody 00:00:08.000 --> 00:00:11.960 I've ever met. Kara Kaufman is a mother of four 00:00:11.960 --> 00:00:16.100 boys. Yeah, four boys. She teaches music. She 00:00:16.100 --> 00:00:20.059 writes music. She has a day job. And just saying 00:00:20.059 --> 00:00:23.940 that makes me want to nap. How in the heck do 00:00:23.940 --> 00:00:28.370 you do all of that, Kara? I don't know. But I 00:00:28.370 --> 00:00:33.329 take it day by day and I think honestly playing 00:00:33.329 --> 00:00:36.890 music with children and for children is so energy 00:00:36.890 --> 00:00:40.689 -giving and they are so joyful that it just keeps 00:00:40.689 --> 00:00:42.770 me going, you know? It doesn't seem like a job. 00:00:43.170 --> 00:00:46.490 It never seems like a job. So you teach music 00:00:46.490 --> 00:00:50.649 what age group? So I have two sort of teaching 00:00:50.649 --> 00:00:53.710 gigs going on right now. One of them is in Amherstburg 00:00:53.710 --> 00:00:56.429 at the music school there called Music Land and 00:00:56.429 --> 00:01:00.990 I do a parent and taught. So it's usually babies 00:01:00.990 --> 00:01:03.950 and toddlers and their parent. And so it's essentially 00:01:03.950 --> 00:01:06.890 having the child and the parent caregiver engage 00:01:06.890 --> 00:01:08.790 with them through music, and we do really fun 00:01:08.790 --> 00:01:11.189 activities and sing songs. So I've been doing 00:01:11.189 --> 00:01:13.849 that. I'm on my second session of that right 00:01:13.849 --> 00:01:16.670 now, which has been a lot of fun. And then my 00:01:16.670 --> 00:01:19.810 newest job is teaching at some Montessori schools 00:01:19.810 --> 00:01:24.450 in the area, teaching music to babies right through 00:01:24.450 --> 00:01:28.989 age four. How do you find them responding to 00:01:28.989 --> 00:01:31.870 the music classes? Oh, it's so fun. So I was 00:01:31.870 --> 00:01:34.769 taking over for a really talented musician in 00:01:34.769 --> 00:01:37.769 the area, Brendan Friel. He has this great program 00:01:37.769 --> 00:01:39.530 that he's been doing at the Montessori Schools 00:01:39.530 --> 00:01:43.650 locally. So watching him, he's very talented 00:01:43.650 --> 00:01:45.409 and I thought I've got some big shoes to fill, 00:01:45.430 --> 00:01:48.469 but it has been going so well so far. Just trying 00:01:48.469 --> 00:01:51.829 to always keep music fun for them, introduce 00:01:51.829 --> 00:01:53.930 them to different sounds, different instruments. 00:01:54.379 --> 00:01:56.219 It's been great. I'm only on my second week so 00:01:56.219 --> 00:01:58.840 far, so it's been good. Still the honeymoon phase. 00:01:58.939 --> 00:02:02.060 It is. Although with kids, it just, that never 00:02:02.060 --> 00:02:04.859 ends. No, it doesn't. That's the thing. Years 00:02:04.859 --> 00:02:08.259 ago, I started out music playing for adults, 00:02:08.439 --> 00:02:10.800 and it was fine. It was fun, but it's nothing 00:02:10.800 --> 00:02:13.719 like playing for kids. What made you transition? 00:02:14.400 --> 00:02:17.719 Having my own children. Yeah, so when I, I was 00:02:17.719 --> 00:02:20.840 still... Gigging continuously when I was pregnant 00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:22.840 with my first child even up right up to like 00:02:22.840 --> 00:02:25.500 nine months pregnant I'm gonna stop you right 00:02:25.500 --> 00:02:28.520 there. Do you write your own music? I do and 00:02:28.520 --> 00:02:31.360 you write your own songs. Yes Yes, so back in 00:02:31.360 --> 00:02:34.159 the day I had released an album called the curious 00:02:34.159 --> 00:02:36.900 case of the past and it was you know All like, 00:02:37.020 --> 00:02:40.009 you know moody love songs all the things And 00:02:40.009 --> 00:02:43.270 I toured around Southwestern Ontario, Cleveland, 00:02:43.590 --> 00:02:46.629 Michigan, and then we lived in Cleveland for 00:02:46.629 --> 00:02:49.370 a while, and that's where we had our first child, 00:02:49.370 --> 00:02:51.090 and I was still gigging right up into the end, 00:02:51.110 --> 00:02:52.909 and I thought, great, I'm gonna have my baby 00:02:52.909 --> 00:02:56.110 and just keep playing. Well, that came to a very 00:02:56.110 --> 00:03:00.069 quick stop, because as we all know, babies are 00:03:00.069 --> 00:03:04.110 a lot. A whole new world. So I really scaled 00:03:04.110 --> 00:03:07.449 back a ton, and I didn't play live for a long 00:03:07.449 --> 00:03:10.699 time, and then had my second child. I kept writing 00:03:10.699 --> 00:03:13.379 music, but then what seemed to naturally make 00:03:13.379 --> 00:03:16.099 the most sense was writing kids' music. I knew 00:03:16.099 --> 00:03:18.620 I would start with lullabies at some point or 00:03:18.620 --> 00:03:23.300 that softer sort of music, but I have five albums 00:03:23.300 --> 00:03:26.819 out about dinosaurs, and so what prompted dinosaurs 00:03:26.819 --> 00:03:30.740 is that my boys have all loved dinosaurs fiercely 00:03:30.740 --> 00:03:35.000 at some point in their youth. And it actually 00:03:35.000 --> 00:03:37.500 started with them asking me for some dinosaur 00:03:37.500 --> 00:03:40.199 songs in particular. Like they wanted a velociraptor 00:03:40.199 --> 00:03:42.599 song and just some dinosaur songs they couldn't 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:45.300 find when they were asking Alexa. And I thought, 00:03:45.340 --> 00:03:46.960 oh, you know what? I can write them some songs. 00:03:47.139 --> 00:03:49.039 And I thought I would just do it for fun, but 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:51.699 it was actually such a great way to get back 00:03:51.699 --> 00:03:54.960 into music and performing live and writing again. 00:03:55.199 --> 00:03:57.139 So I wrote them those songs and that was sort 00:03:57.139 --> 00:03:59.280 of during the pandemic. And I thought, you know 00:03:59.280 --> 00:04:00.840 what? I'm gonna record these. Let's just see 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:03.400 how this goes. So then that was my first album, 00:04:03.719 --> 00:04:07.159 Dino Lullabies. Yeah, it sounds like it. And 00:04:07.159 --> 00:04:09.539 how many albums do you say you have out now? 00:04:09.560 --> 00:04:13.280 Five EPs. So each has five songs on it. So five 00:04:13.280 --> 00:04:16.360 different dinosaurs. So it's Dino Lullabies, 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:18.240 Dino Diddies, which are a little more upbeat, 00:04:19.220 --> 00:04:23.420 Dino Friends Swim and Dino Friends Fly. So prehistoric 00:04:23.420 --> 00:04:27.019 marine and, you know, flying reptiles. And then 00:04:27.019 --> 00:04:29.500 at Christmas last year, I did a Christmas album 00:04:29.500 --> 00:04:32.509 with dinosaurs. I reworked. like Jingle Bells 00:04:32.509 --> 00:04:35.649 and Rudolph into dinosaur songs. And so we had 00:04:35.649 --> 00:04:38.290 a lot of fun doing that. So I have that and then 00:04:38.290 --> 00:04:39.970 I have a new album coming out. It's not about 00:04:39.970 --> 00:04:43.790 dinosaurs, but it's releasing next week. Nice. 00:04:44.269 --> 00:04:47.730 Now, where can everybody, for the parents, where 00:04:47.730 --> 00:04:51.269 can they find your albums? Yeah, so everything's 00:04:51.269 --> 00:04:54.129 available sort of worldwide on any streaming 00:04:54.129 --> 00:04:56.149 platform that people listen to. So the most common 00:04:56.149 --> 00:04:59.610 ones, Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music, they're 00:04:59.610 --> 00:05:03.259 all there. And what about this new album? Yeah, 00:05:03.459 --> 00:05:08.459 so it's called Sunshine. And I initially planned 00:05:08.459 --> 00:05:11.360 on releasing it in the summer. But, you know, 00:05:11.459 --> 00:05:14.000 we've just, just a challenging summer. My father 00:05:14.000 --> 00:05:16.920 passed away in June and it just, I needed to 00:05:16.920 --> 00:05:19.699 pause on a few things. So the album, you know, 00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:22.199 I slowly worked away at it. But what inspired 00:05:22.199 --> 00:05:25.819 it was I also write custom family songs. And 00:05:25.819 --> 00:05:29.220 someone asked me to do a cover of You Are My 00:05:29.220 --> 00:05:32.259 Sunshine for them. So she loved to sing it to 00:05:32.259 --> 00:05:34.220 her daughters. It had a lot of special meaning. 00:05:34.620 --> 00:05:36.759 And I said to her, well, the lyrics of that song, 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:39.339 you know, once you get past that chorus, can 00:05:39.339 --> 00:05:42.720 be quite sad. So I said, why don't we rework 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:45.319 these verses and we'll put your daughter's names 00:05:45.319 --> 00:05:47.680 in. And we just had a lot of fun with that. And 00:05:47.680 --> 00:05:50.220 I recorded it for her, you know, sent it to her. 00:05:50.439 --> 00:05:52.120 And I got to thinking, you know what, I really 00:05:52.120 --> 00:05:54.579 like this version. What if I change the verses 00:05:54.579 --> 00:05:56.560 again, take out the girl's names and whatnot, 00:05:57.040 --> 00:06:00.250 and release it? So I did that and I thought I 00:06:00.250 --> 00:06:02.829 would just put it out as a single But it just 00:06:02.829 --> 00:06:05.389 sort of doing like working on that song inspired 00:06:05.389 --> 00:06:08.589 a few other songs just about Yes, like special 00:06:08.589 --> 00:06:11.389 relationship between a caregiver and their child, 00:06:11.470 --> 00:06:13.790 you know and their little one And so there's 00:06:13.790 --> 00:06:16.069 some songs about being outdoors playing at the 00:06:16.069 --> 00:06:19.240 park taking some quiet moments to color together, 00:06:19.319 --> 00:06:22.379 that sort of thing. So it still has the children 00:06:22.379 --> 00:06:24.779 in it. Oh, it's still a children's album? Yep, 00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:27.259 it's still a children's album. I think I will 00:06:27.259 --> 00:06:29.480 probably continue forward with children's music. 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:33.639 We'll see if I dabble back into adult music eventually, 00:06:34.180 --> 00:06:35.819 but this is kind of where I want to stay for 00:06:35.819 --> 00:06:39.910 now. And I did notice on Instagram that you do 00:06:39.910 --> 00:06:42.529 customize songs for people, so it wasn't just 00:06:42.529 --> 00:06:44.370 a one -off. Exactly, yeah. So I've been doing 00:06:44.370 --> 00:06:46.050 that for the last year and a half or so. I had 00:06:46.050 --> 00:06:47.370 a few requests and I thought, you know what, 00:06:47.430 --> 00:06:50.910 let me just try it out. It was so much fun with 00:06:50.910 --> 00:06:52.410 that. So, you know, I send out a questionnaire. 00:06:53.240 --> 00:06:55.060 Send the answers back to me and then I just start 00:06:55.060 --> 00:06:57.420 to build the song from there But I love working 00:06:57.420 --> 00:06:59.600 through that relationship with that person. I've 00:06:59.600 --> 00:07:01.560 worked with a few grandparents. Those are really 00:07:01.560 --> 00:07:04.920 special songs a grandmother who was you know 00:07:04.920 --> 00:07:07.220 Ordering a song for her first grandchild and 00:07:07.220 --> 00:07:09.180 now she's actually just ordered another one for 00:07:09.180 --> 00:07:12.180 her second grandchild So they're really meaningful 00:07:12.180 --> 00:07:14.360 and that's what I really love about them. But 00:07:14.360 --> 00:07:16.899 yeah, that would be so sweet. Oh, it's awesome 00:07:16.899 --> 00:07:24.600 Yeah, I'd be tearing up I know, it's so true. 00:07:24.699 --> 00:07:27.519 So there's this one song that was requested and 00:07:27.519 --> 00:07:30.800 it was a mom, two children. She had gone through 00:07:30.800 --> 00:07:34.180 a separation. They moved states. There were a 00:07:34.180 --> 00:07:35.879 lot of big changes in their lives and she just 00:07:35.879 --> 00:07:37.920 wanted a song that would help them feel like 00:07:37.920 --> 00:07:41.680 some cohesion and just some settled feelings. 00:07:42.199 --> 00:07:44.839 And so I wrote this song called Big Life Changes. 00:07:45.209 --> 00:07:47.509 And I don't know, just something about that song 00:07:47.509 --> 00:07:50.389 makes me so emotional every time I listen to 00:07:50.389 --> 00:07:52.730 it. Then I actually re -recorded it, and it's 00:07:52.730 --> 00:07:54.930 gonna be on the Sunshine EP that's releasing 00:07:54.930 --> 00:07:57.370 next week, so everyone will get to hear it. But 00:07:57.370 --> 00:07:59.730 that was a really special song, so it does become 00:07:59.730 --> 00:08:02.269 emotional when I'm writing them for these families, 00:08:02.970 --> 00:08:06.290 yeah. That's so sweet though. Yeah, it's awesome 00:08:06.290 --> 00:08:10.149 because we know that music connects us so much. 00:08:10.399 --> 00:08:13.800 Right? It's true. And music is like, it's memory, 00:08:14.000 --> 00:08:16.360 and it's emotion, it's all these things, right? 00:08:16.459 --> 00:08:18.800 So to have your own special song, or has something 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:20.879 you're connecting over. And that's why I love, 00:08:21.079 --> 00:08:23.060 like, when I went to write the Dinosaur songs, 00:08:23.300 --> 00:08:24.779 I didn't want to, like, there's nothing wrong 00:08:24.779 --> 00:08:27.240 with Baby Shark. Like, you know, it's fine. I 00:08:27.240 --> 00:08:30.300 don't mind, right? But I wanted to write music 00:08:30.300 --> 00:08:32.799 that parents, caregivers, also wanted to listen 00:08:32.799 --> 00:08:34.620 to, right? Because I've heard Baby Shark so many 00:08:34.620 --> 00:08:38.889 times. Thank God that came out after my son grew 00:08:38.889 --> 00:08:41.169 up. And I'm just like, okay, I don't know if 00:08:41.169 --> 00:08:44.269 I can hear it again. So I wanted to write songs 00:08:44.269 --> 00:08:46.929 that like... an adult would wanna hear as well, 00:08:47.129 --> 00:08:49.570 but the theme and the lyrics were geared towards 00:08:49.570 --> 00:08:51.850 children, right? So these dinosaurs, of course 00:08:51.850 --> 00:08:54.509 dinosaurs, kids love them, but they also infuse 00:08:54.509 --> 00:08:57.730 stories of like child wonder, curiosity, growth, 00:08:58.389 --> 00:09:02.330 perseverance, self -love. And so I wrote the 00:09:02.330 --> 00:09:04.610 songs just the way I would have written any adult 00:09:04.610 --> 00:09:07.730 song, but. theme, lyrics figured towards kids. 00:09:07.870 --> 00:09:09.870 I did the same thing with the Sunshine song and 00:09:09.870 --> 00:09:12.590 even my Custom Family songs are like that too. 00:09:12.970 --> 00:09:15.629 So that it's, you know, again, something that 00:09:15.629 --> 00:09:17.590 they can listen to together and connect over. 00:09:17.799 --> 00:09:20.899 I just find that so important. It really is. 00:09:21.159 --> 00:09:23.899 And it's nice to get them off their pad for a 00:09:23.899 --> 00:09:26.899 bit. Oh, yes, right. You guys can listen to music, 00:09:27.059 --> 00:09:30.200 even make up their own songs. Yes, right. I love 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:31.980 inspiring that in kids. Like, letting them know, 00:09:32.019 --> 00:09:34.559 like, you can write your own stuff. I held two 00:09:34.559 --> 00:09:37.120 songwriting workshops at Music Land in Amisburg. 00:09:37.320 --> 00:09:40.159 And then you also do, and I'm just looking down 00:09:40.159 --> 00:09:43.600 here, do you do monthly Music and Me at Amherstburg 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:45.700 Library? Yes, I do. So the next one's coming 00:09:45.700 --> 00:09:49.440 up soon on Saturday. So one Saturday a month, 00:09:49.679 --> 00:09:52.779 I do a free Music and Me program where families 00:09:52.779 --> 00:09:56.620 can come. There's a different theme each time. 00:09:56.840 --> 00:09:59.279 And I try to weave in a different music concept, 00:09:59.320 --> 00:10:01.840 whether it's beat, tempo, pitch, that sort of 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:03.580 thing. We just have a lot of fun. And then we 00:10:03.580 --> 00:10:06.539 make a DIY instrument. So we've made guitars. 00:10:06.669 --> 00:10:10.509 out of Kleenex boxes. We've made like kazoos 00:10:10.509 --> 00:10:12.549 and yeah, it's really fun. We have a good time. 00:10:12.950 --> 00:10:16.230 And again, Amisburg Library once a month and 00:10:16.230 --> 00:10:19.309 it's free. Free is always good when you have 00:10:19.309 --> 00:10:21.049 kids. Free is good. Well and this is the other 00:10:21.049 --> 00:10:25.389 thing too, I think access to music education 00:10:25.389 --> 00:10:30.259 and just access to instruments. It's not always 00:10:30.259 --> 00:10:33.100 an option for everybody, right? And not all schools 00:10:33.100 --> 00:10:36.620 have a robust music program. In Amersberg, we're 00:10:36.620 --> 00:10:38.179 lucky. At Amersberg Public School, we've got 00:10:38.179 --> 00:10:41.019 a great music program. My boys love it there. 00:10:41.379 --> 00:10:43.179 But yeah, it's not always something that people 00:10:43.179 --> 00:10:45.519 have. So I like to, at least if I can do my small 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:47.899 part, offering that at the library, something 00:10:47.899 --> 00:10:49.799 where families can come and enjoy it. Kids can 00:10:49.799 --> 00:10:52.279 try out different instruments. The library has 00:10:52.279 --> 00:10:56.440 a really cool music and me kit. So you can actually 00:10:56.440 --> 00:10:58.399 rent it out and take it home. And it has all 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:00.759 these different percussion instruments in it, 00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:03.360 activities on how to use the percussion instruments. 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:06.080 So those are really cool kits to check out from 00:11:06.080 --> 00:11:08.620 any library you can check it out from. I did 00:11:08.620 --> 00:11:10.720 not know that. Yeah, it's not cool. Yeah. Well, 00:11:10.720 --> 00:11:13.399 this is good to know because I do have a grandbaby 00:11:13.399 --> 00:11:16.700 coming up. So that's right. We'll have to try 00:11:16.700 --> 00:11:19.279 that. And they live near Amherstburg. Oh, perfect. 00:11:19.519 --> 00:11:22.559 Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure they would love to do something 00:11:22.559 --> 00:11:24.259 like that. It's a great option, right? And you'd 00:11:24.259 --> 00:11:25.799 have some fun with them. bells and some little 00:11:25.799 --> 00:11:29.759 shakers. Now I met you when you were starting 00:11:29.759 --> 00:11:33.440 for Jill, Mom Said Duck at Anchor Coffee and 00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:36.960 you were just playing such soothing music and 00:11:36.960 --> 00:11:40.440 it was wonderful. Do you do that for others as 00:11:40.440 --> 00:11:44.559 well? You know I haven't played out sort of you 00:11:44.559 --> 00:11:48.120 know adult shows live as much but I miss it. 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:50.820 a lot, so I think about getting back to it, even 00:11:50.820 --> 00:11:52.580 if I'm, again, as I mentioned earlier, I don't 00:11:52.580 --> 00:11:55.259 know when or if I'll get back into writing adult 00:11:55.259 --> 00:11:57.980 geared music, but I wouldn't mind getting out 00:11:57.980 --> 00:11:59.820 and playing some cover songs for a night, you 00:11:59.820 --> 00:12:02.620 know, and that night I geared all my music towards 00:12:02.620 --> 00:12:04.940 Mother's Day, so I played a few of my songs that, 00:12:04.940 --> 00:12:07.899 you know, kind of have that feel to it, a lot 00:12:07.899 --> 00:12:10.500 of songs from the new EP coming up, and then 00:12:10.500 --> 00:12:12.600 just other songs that were, you know, involved 00:12:12.600 --> 00:12:14.879 that, you know, parent -child connection, but. 00:12:15.149 --> 00:12:19.090 It was fun. Long story short, on AM 800, I watched 00:12:19.090 --> 00:12:22.809 it on YouTube in the morning, and Steve, Steve, 00:12:22.990 --> 00:12:27.360 I meant Steve, who wrote Humanist. Humanism from 00:12:27.360 --> 00:12:30.779 the heart. It's a good book. It really is and 00:12:30.779 --> 00:12:33.419 he was telling me you have to meet Kara You have 00:12:33.419 --> 00:12:36.620 to make Kara and then I ended up meeting you 00:12:36.620 --> 00:12:39.100 by accident I didn't even realize the same person 00:12:39.100 --> 00:12:41.360 right you walked over to me. You're like hold 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:43.320 on a second Do you know Steve is this you and 00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:46.470 I was like, that's me. I know Steve Because you 00:12:46.470 --> 00:12:49.350 did a podcast with him. I did. So we've kind 00:12:49.350 --> 00:12:51.169 of talked about this a little bit, but I started 00:12:51.169 --> 00:12:54.149 a parenting podcast last summer. Now, it comes 00:12:54.149 --> 00:12:57.370 from a blog, a parenting blog that I've had on 00:12:57.370 --> 00:12:59.710 and off for years called Little Tot Landing. 00:13:01.110 --> 00:13:03.149 And well, after my first, I started it like, 00:13:03.250 --> 00:13:04.590 I think he was eight months old. I thought, you 00:13:04.590 --> 00:13:06.169 know what, I love writing. I've always been a 00:13:06.169 --> 00:13:08.950 writer. I also am a freelance writer on the side. 00:13:09.409 --> 00:13:12.169 So I missed writing when I wasn't working as 00:13:12.169 --> 00:13:14.370 much in those first few months. So I thought, 00:13:14.370 --> 00:13:16.909 I'm gonna do some. you know, parenting blogging. 00:13:17.350 --> 00:13:19.570 And as I said, it was kind of on and off and 00:13:19.570 --> 00:13:21.769 I decided last summer, you know, who doesn't 00:13:21.769 --> 00:13:25.429 want a podcast, I guess, right? It's true. They're 00:13:25.429 --> 00:13:28.350 so fun. They're so fun. And I had a great time 00:13:28.350 --> 00:13:30.669 interviewing people and Steve was one of them. 00:13:30.870 --> 00:13:32.549 We talked, you know, in all these episodes, I've 00:13:32.549 --> 00:13:34.250 just talked about different, you know, parenting 00:13:34.250 --> 00:13:38.620 topics. But I had to pause on it because I think 00:13:38.620 --> 00:13:41.899 just between parenting and work and gigging and 00:13:41.899 --> 00:13:46.220 everything, all the things. So, it's there. The 00:13:46.220 --> 00:13:49.059 episodes are still live. Are you still blogging 00:13:49.059 --> 00:13:51.860 or? So not right now. No. Not right now. But 00:13:51.860 --> 00:13:54.019 it also, so what I did when I went back to the 00:13:54.019 --> 00:13:57.220 podcast, I went back to blogging as well. So 00:13:57.220 --> 00:13:59.080 I would take the episode and then write a blog 00:13:59.080 --> 00:14:01.480 post that sort of coincided with the episode. 00:14:01.559 --> 00:14:04.019 But your blog's still out there for people to 00:14:04.019 --> 00:14:05.899 - People can go read it, they can go listen to 00:14:05.899 --> 00:14:07.960 the podcast episodes. And where can they find 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:10.799 that? I will return to it. So it's the podcast 00:14:10.799 --> 00:14:13.379 streams anywhere that you can listen to podcasts. 00:14:13.600 --> 00:14:17.620 Yeah, and that's Little Totley. and you can follow 00:14:17.620 --> 00:14:20.960 it on Instagram, but your website, where your 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:23.200 blog is, what is that? That's littletotlanding 00:14:23.200 --> 00:14:25.789 .com. Oh, it is, okay. Yes, yep. Yeah, yeah. 00:14:26.009 --> 00:14:28.549 And then for any music things that people might 00:14:28.549 --> 00:14:30.190 want to check out, and you can also purchase 00:14:30.190 --> 00:14:32.470 my albums on my website. I know most people stream 00:14:32.470 --> 00:14:35.309 these days, but they are there. It's caracoffman 00:14:35.309 --> 00:14:39.710 .com. It's sometimes easier to just have it downloaded 00:14:39.710 --> 00:14:42.289 in one spot than trying to find it every time 00:14:42.289 --> 00:14:44.830 the kid's crying. I know, or when you're like, 00:14:45.090 --> 00:14:48.210 I did a little video on this in the summer, because 00:14:48.210 --> 00:14:49.730 sometimes when you're on a road trip, you know, 00:14:50.169 --> 00:14:51.490 we're always on road trips in the summertime, 00:14:51.980 --> 00:14:54.559 your connection can get spotty. So whatever music 00:14:54.559 --> 00:14:56.559 you love, it's always a good idea to download 00:14:56.559 --> 00:14:58.580 it to your phone in whatever capacity that is, 00:14:58.740 --> 00:15:00.299 if you're purchasing it or not, but you know, 00:15:00.419 --> 00:15:04.000 so it's an option. I want to get into, before 00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:08.179 I forget, Spitfires. Yes. So what is going on 00:15:08.179 --> 00:15:11.759 with you and the vampires? I know. So October 00:15:11.759 --> 00:15:15.360 24th, they're having a Jurassic night and they're 00:15:15.360 --> 00:15:18.539 having me come play some songs. So I don't have 00:15:18.539 --> 00:15:20.259 all the details yet, but I know that I will be 00:15:20.259 --> 00:15:22.440 there that night playing my dinosaur songs. I 00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:24.620 cannot wait. I'm so excited. I wonder if the 00:15:24.620 --> 00:15:26.620 kids are going to be dressing up like dinosaurs. 00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:28.840 I really hope so. That would be so much fun. 00:15:28.840 --> 00:15:31.340 I sure hope so. Yes, I hope there is just a lot 00:15:31.340 --> 00:15:33.399 of dinosaur action going on because I have a 00:15:33.399 --> 00:15:36.259 lot of dinosaur songs to share. I'm really excited. 00:15:36.659 --> 00:15:39.039 Okay, so Spitfires, if you're watching this, 00:15:39.159 --> 00:15:40.960 make sure the kids are wearing dinosaur costumes. 00:15:41.480 --> 00:15:44.019 That would be so much fun. They should have their 00:15:44.019 --> 00:15:45.620 costumes ready for Halloween anyway. Well, this 00:15:45.620 --> 00:15:47.240 is the thing, right? And so when I was thinking, 00:15:47.419 --> 00:15:49.440 oh, this is perfect. Parents could just say, 00:15:49.779 --> 00:15:51.639 we're dressing up as dinosaurs this year. You've 00:15:51.639 --> 00:15:53.980 got your costume for the Spitfires game. A few 00:15:53.980 --> 00:15:56.120 days later, you go out for Halloween. It's perfect. 00:15:56.419 --> 00:16:00.179 Do you still do freelance writing? I do. So I 00:16:00.179 --> 00:16:04.340 actually work for two companies. that are sort 00:16:04.340 --> 00:16:06.840 of in the trades. So I actually, I used to write 00:16:06.840 --> 00:16:09.720 like travel and food and now I'm sort of like 00:16:09.720 --> 00:16:11.480 talking about manufacturing, but it's really 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:13.600 cool. Like it's just whole different, you know, 00:16:13.720 --> 00:16:16.039 change and I love working for these two companies. 00:16:16.080 --> 00:16:20.200 So that's something I've always kept as a side 00:16:20.200 --> 00:16:22.620 job, part -time job, because I stayed at home 00:16:22.620 --> 00:16:24.360 with my children and I wanted that. I wanted 00:16:24.360 --> 00:16:26.039 to figure out a way to stay home with them when 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:28.340 they were younger. So I always kept freelancing 00:16:28.340 --> 00:16:32.110 up. and then you still have songs coming up in 00:16:32.110 --> 00:16:33.350 your mind all the time. And then songs all the 00:16:33.350 --> 00:16:36.389 time, so it's like writing about cranes and manufacturing, 00:16:36.470 --> 00:16:38.529 and then I go write a song about playing in the 00:16:38.529 --> 00:16:41.129 sunshine, but you know, it's a good balance. 00:16:41.429 --> 00:16:44.769 Have you thought of different themes other than 00:16:44.769 --> 00:16:47.450 just dinosaurs? And I think that's what's fun 00:16:47.450 --> 00:16:49.490 about the Sunshine EP that's coming out, it's 00:16:49.490 --> 00:16:51.769 just something different. And I knew that eventually 00:16:51.769 --> 00:16:57.210 I would transition. Will I write songs about 00:16:57.210 --> 00:17:00.710 transport trucks and dump trucks? I don't know. 00:17:00.769 --> 00:17:04.849 But I think I'll probably go more in that avenue 00:17:04.849 --> 00:17:07.089 of the Sunshine EP, where we're still talking 00:17:07.089 --> 00:17:10.349 about kids' feelings, kids' experiences in life, 00:17:10.569 --> 00:17:12.529 the connection between a caregiver and a child. 00:17:12.769 --> 00:17:14.910 Again, coming back to that family music that 00:17:14.910 --> 00:17:18.799 I love to write. I probably will interject dinosaur 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:21.339 songs here and there because it's been so fun. 00:17:21.680 --> 00:17:24.180 But yes, I definitely see the evolution and where 00:17:24.180 --> 00:17:26.500 it'll, you know, go into different themes. Oh, 00:17:26.500 --> 00:17:30.119 and dinosaurs, they're gender neutral. All kids 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:33.240 love dinosaurs. At some point, right? You will 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:36.460 love a dinosaur song, right? That's better than 00:17:36.460 --> 00:17:40.480 Barney. I'm sorry. I agree. I agree. That's the 00:17:40.480 --> 00:17:43.019 songs that we had when my son was growing up. 00:17:43.279 --> 00:17:45.700 And yeah, you wanted to punch that green dinosaur. 00:17:46.220 --> 00:17:49.000 That's the feeling about Baby Shark. Again, don't 00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:50.839 want to put down Baby Shark, but you can only 00:17:50.839 --> 00:17:53.000 hear it so many times before you're like, please, 00:17:53.160 --> 00:17:57.680 no more. Now, each one of your dinosaur songs, 00:17:57.980 --> 00:18:00.559 do they all kind of... You know how some children's 00:18:00.559 --> 00:18:02.579 songs, they all sound exactly the same? They 00:18:02.579 --> 00:18:05.019 might have different words, but they just all 00:18:05.019 --> 00:18:07.240 sound the same. I think we did a really good 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:08.819 job at making them sound a lot different. When 00:18:08.819 --> 00:18:12.019 I say we... I record with Luke Michaud at Highland 00:18:12.019 --> 00:18:14.519 Studios in LaSalle. And we've worked together 00:18:14.519 --> 00:18:17.299 since the very beginning. I feel so fortunate 00:18:17.299 --> 00:18:19.680 to have been paired up with him. I reached out 00:18:19.680 --> 00:18:21.440 to another musician in the city and just said 00:18:21.440 --> 00:18:24.220 like, you know, where do you recommend I record 00:18:24.220 --> 00:18:27.240 at? She pointed me in his direction. He has three 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:29.660 little kids. So like he just understood. Like 00:18:29.660 --> 00:18:31.160 when I walked in and I was like, cause I kind 00:18:31.160 --> 00:18:33.009 of thought like. are people gonna think this 00:18:33.009 --> 00:18:35.549 is weird? I'm coming in and writing these piano 00:18:35.549 --> 00:18:38.430 ballads about dinosaurs, you know? And he totally 00:18:38.430 --> 00:18:40.369 got it. He was like, oh no, this is cool. So 00:18:40.369 --> 00:18:42.750 that started with the dino lullabies and they 00:18:42.750 --> 00:18:44.670 inherently are different because they're the 00:18:44.670 --> 00:18:48.170 softer, slower ones. So there's a T -Rex song, 00:18:48.329 --> 00:18:51.529 a velociraptor, an ankylosaurus on that one. 00:18:51.809 --> 00:18:54.769 And then the dino ditties, those are sped up 00:18:54.769 --> 00:18:57.809 so I wrote those a little faster, a little more 00:18:57.809 --> 00:19:01.769 dance -like. And yeah, we've just been. I guess 00:19:01.769 --> 00:19:03.750 with the instrumentation that we add keep them 00:19:03.750 --> 00:19:05.549 all sounding really different like some of them 00:19:05.549 --> 00:19:08.109 are like total rock songs like Luke just like 00:19:08.109 --> 00:19:10.589 goes for it with percussion and his guitars and 00:19:10.589 --> 00:19:13.569 like some of these are Super jams like it's fun. 00:19:13.710 --> 00:19:17.900 It's like even little kids love it 100 % yeah, 00:19:17.900 --> 00:19:20.740 super love it. Yeah, it's fun my son He loved 00:19:20.740 --> 00:19:22.900 for some reason when he was a little Tom Petty 00:19:22.900 --> 00:19:25.519 in the heartbreak. Oh for sure. Why exactly? 00:19:25.640 --> 00:19:27.720 Oh, my boys are obsessed with imagine dragons. 00:19:27.720 --> 00:19:29.880 Like they just love that, you know so I think 00:19:29.880 --> 00:19:33.079 I also wanted to capture that for kids like I 00:19:33.079 --> 00:19:36.680 I want kids to be able to listen to all sorts 00:19:36.680 --> 00:19:39.240 of genres of music but have the content be something 00:19:39.240 --> 00:19:41.819 that they can listen to at their and understand 00:19:41.819 --> 00:19:44.799 right? Yeah. Yeah, cuz I think that We can put 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:47.420 anything on the radio for them, and I do, but 00:19:47.420 --> 00:19:49.660 I think sometimes the content is not for their 00:19:49.660 --> 00:19:54.259 ears. Not appropriate. Right? And then of course, 00:19:54.400 --> 00:19:56.660 on the other part of that is that we want them 00:19:56.660 --> 00:19:58.900 to be able to relate to it and see themselves 00:19:58.900 --> 00:20:03.200 in these songs. Have you ever thought of making 00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:07.299 videos for the songs? Yes. For YouTube? I know, 00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:10.240 I'm like... Kara, you gotta get on it. This is 00:20:10.240 --> 00:20:12.200 like my running list of things to do. That would 00:20:12.200 --> 00:20:14.859 be killer. Yes, and it's funny, I almost created 00:20:14.859 --> 00:20:18.599 my first video. It was like last summer. Had 00:20:18.599 --> 00:20:21.119 to cancel it. We thought we would rebook. Never 00:20:21.119 --> 00:20:23.319 got around to it. Then I thought, do I do like 00:20:23.319 --> 00:20:26.420 some DIY ones at home? Like what, but. It is 00:20:26.420 --> 00:20:29.380 like on the list of things to do because really, 00:20:29.640 --> 00:20:31.680 that's the whole other layer to it, right? To 00:20:31.680 --> 00:20:34.039 have the visual, to go with the song, and kids 00:20:34.039 --> 00:20:37.039 love that. Right? Get it up on YouTube. Even 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:38.640 the babies, they'll just sit there and stare 00:20:38.640 --> 00:20:40.579 at it. Exactly, right? And I mean, we could have 00:20:40.579 --> 00:20:42.539 puppets, we could have backgrounds. I mean, there's 00:20:42.539 --> 00:20:45.619 so much that can be done. So I really want to 00:20:45.619 --> 00:20:47.880 do that part to it. And it doesn't even have 00:20:47.880 --> 00:20:51.619 to be anything fancy or expensive. Kids love 00:20:51.619 --> 00:20:55.710 anything. When you go on my Spotify and you listen 00:20:55.710 --> 00:20:57.730 to a song, you know, sometimes you can see the 00:20:57.730 --> 00:20:59.750 little, I think it's eight seconds. It's called 00:20:59.750 --> 00:21:02.609 a canvas. It's an eight second video that runs 00:21:02.609 --> 00:21:05.089 on a loop. Okay. You ever seen that on Spotify? 00:21:05.650 --> 00:21:08.309 Yeah, because you do that on the podcast and 00:21:08.309 --> 00:21:10.910 I can throw on a little clip. A little clip, 00:21:10.970 --> 00:21:14.769 yeah. So if people go and listen to my songs 00:21:14.769 --> 00:21:17.130 on Spotify, you can see the little video running 00:21:17.130 --> 00:21:19.309 in the background. And some of them I had a lot 00:21:19.309 --> 00:21:22.720 of fun making. So there's like a... Brachiosaurus 00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:25.200 like chomping like on a plant in our house and 00:21:25.200 --> 00:21:27.220 like my boys are helping you can see one of their 00:21:27.220 --> 00:21:30.059 little hands So we did do some little videos, 00:21:30.359 --> 00:21:32.599 but I can see like you said it doesn't have to 00:21:32.599 --> 00:21:34.960 be a huge production It can be just really simple 00:21:34.960 --> 00:21:37.380 where you know, I bet your kids would love how 00:21:37.380 --> 00:21:39.660 old are they? Okay, so they are they all just 00:21:39.660 --> 00:21:41.500 had birthdays. So now I have to remember they're 00:21:41.500 --> 00:21:46.079 a year older now four six nine, and 11. Okay, 00:21:46.180 --> 00:21:49.059 so they're all at the age to really have fun 00:21:49.059 --> 00:21:50.779 making these. They can have so much fun with 00:21:50.779 --> 00:21:53.160 it, right? And they get to do YouTube. Exactly. 00:21:53.400 --> 00:21:55.079 I mean, right? Like, how fun for them. Yeah, 00:21:55.240 --> 00:21:56.880 yeah, yeah. My 11 -year -old and 9 -year -old 00:21:56.880 --> 00:21:59.440 would be totally geeked out about that. So, yeah, 00:21:59.559 --> 00:22:01.680 so it's definitely part, you know, hopefully, 00:22:02.180 --> 00:22:03.980 I wish I could say it's in the works, but it's, 00:22:03.980 --> 00:22:06.200 you know, it's there. The idea is there. You 00:22:06.200 --> 00:22:10.440 have enough on the playlist. Like, come on. Your 00:22:10.440 --> 00:22:13.599 plate is full. You have like three or four plates 00:22:13.599 --> 00:22:15.559 going on there. Yeah, there's a few. There's 00:22:15.559 --> 00:22:18.740 a few. I mean, it's something there. Exactly, 00:22:19.019 --> 00:22:21.799 right? Yes, yeah, definitely. Yeah. That sounds 00:22:21.799 --> 00:22:24.420 like so much fun. Oh, yeah, right? I mean, there's 00:22:24.420 --> 00:22:26.839 so many ideas to do with it, and that's just 00:22:26.839 --> 00:22:29.039 it again. Like, I think, too, when I think about 00:22:29.039 --> 00:22:31.099 a YouTube channel, like, how fun would it be 00:22:31.099 --> 00:22:34.839 for me to... Share like the other week. I shared 00:22:34.839 --> 00:22:37.619 because I do the DIY instruments at the library 00:22:37.619 --> 00:22:39.640 I did a little video showing people how to make 00:22:39.640 --> 00:22:42.160 an egg shaker, you know So that sort of content 00:22:42.160 --> 00:22:44.359 I think is really great because parents it's 00:22:44.359 --> 00:22:46.420 like an easy activity and then they're bringing 00:22:46.420 --> 00:22:48.359 music into the home They didn't have to buy an 00:22:48.359 --> 00:22:50.539 instrument like when I said we made a kazoo like 00:22:50.539 --> 00:22:53.039 we made a really cool kazoo out of popsicle sticks 00:22:53.039 --> 00:22:56.529 Wow and a straw and I'll do that video, too, 00:22:56.549 --> 00:22:58.849 and I'll put it online. I kind of want to come 00:22:58.849 --> 00:23:00.690 to this. It's super cute. Yeah, you should come. 00:23:01.009 --> 00:23:02.890 The music and me. You should come. Yeah. Yeah. 00:23:03.130 --> 00:23:05.730 So it's fun. Yeah. But yeah, a little taught 00:23:05.730 --> 00:23:07.910 landing on YouTube. You could have a little bit 00:23:07.910 --> 00:23:09.869 of everything. You could have your podcast. This 00:23:09.869 --> 00:23:13.150 is the cool thing, right? That that. podcast 00:23:13.150 --> 00:23:15.190 and blog, right, they really go together with 00:23:15.190 --> 00:23:16.890 the music that I'm doing because it's all geared 00:23:16.890 --> 00:23:18.990 towards families and kids, right? So you're right, 00:23:18.990 --> 00:23:21.009 there's a lot there that can connect. God, you 00:23:21.009 --> 00:23:23.230 got me thinking of a million things. I love it, 00:23:23.230 --> 00:23:25.950 I love it. I'm gonna have her work to the bone 00:23:25.950 --> 00:23:28.670 by the end of it. Thank you. I can't guarantee 00:23:28.670 --> 00:23:30.549 you'll make money. Give me direction, but yeah. 00:23:30.609 --> 00:23:33.250 Oh, I know, right? As long as we're having fun, 00:23:33.650 --> 00:23:36.430 right? That's all that matters. It's true, right? 00:23:36.430 --> 00:23:39.250 Yeah, and it keeps the gray hairs away. Yes, 00:23:39.250 --> 00:23:43.759 it does, right? And, I mean, your job, and your 00:23:43.759 --> 00:23:47.579 music is all intertwined with your family, so 00:23:47.579 --> 00:23:50.500 it's a lot of family time. It is, because what 00:23:50.500 --> 00:23:53.019 I tell people too, the cool thing about the dinosaur 00:23:53.019 --> 00:23:55.700 songs, is like my boys wrote them with me. They 00:23:55.700 --> 00:23:57.119 would sit there, and they'll come in, you know, 00:23:57.259 --> 00:23:58.460 there's four of them, right? So they come in 00:23:58.460 --> 00:24:00.319 and out of the room, but at some point someone's 00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:02.640 in there, and those very first ones, it was like 00:24:02.640 --> 00:24:05.259 my eldest, Radley, and Ace, like they'd say, 00:24:05.539 --> 00:24:07.960 Mom. This is what I know about a velociraptor, 00:24:08.039 --> 00:24:09.980 right? Because every six to eight -year -old 00:24:09.980 --> 00:24:12.759 knows every fact that you can never keep in your 00:24:12.759 --> 00:24:15.509 brain, but they can, right? And they would just 00:24:15.509 --> 00:24:17.430 tell me all this information and so I'd write 00:24:17.430 --> 00:24:19.529 it down and then I'd create a song and I'll say 00:24:19.529 --> 00:24:21.410 to them, I'll write a song and I'll say, what 00:24:21.410 --> 00:24:23.210 do you think about this? And then they'll tell 00:24:23.210 --> 00:24:25.089 me, I like when you sing it higher or I like 00:24:25.089 --> 00:24:26.970 when you sing it lower. And so they helped me 00:24:26.970 --> 00:24:30.690 so we are spending time together. So it is a 00:24:30.690 --> 00:24:33.650 really awesome component to what I'm doing. Have 00:24:33.650 --> 00:24:38.210 your kids watched the Jurassic Park, the cartoon? 00:24:38.890 --> 00:24:43.490 Oh, the Camp Cretaceous? Like it's the teenagers 00:24:43.490 --> 00:24:45.869 who were stuck on the island. They love it. I'm 00:24:45.869 --> 00:24:48.630 a little bit obsessed too. I just found that 00:24:48.630 --> 00:24:52.650 we have friends that have young kids and they 00:24:52.650 --> 00:24:55.230 had it on and I was like glued to it. I know, 00:24:55.349 --> 00:24:58.250 right? I never get a chance to watch. Where is 00:24:58.250 --> 00:25:00.250 it streaming on? It's Netflix. Okay. It's on 00:25:00.250 --> 00:25:02.730 Netflix. Yes. I have to go into the kids section 00:25:02.730 --> 00:25:05.089 because I totally do. Yeah, it's so good. And 00:25:05.089 --> 00:25:07.089 like I never get a chance to watch TV really 00:25:07.089 --> 00:25:09.609 because, well, you know, the list. Yeah. But 00:25:09.609 --> 00:25:11.630 this show, like I'll be counting down. They'll 00:25:11.630 --> 00:25:14.589 be like, Mom, season three is coming out October, 00:25:14.650 --> 00:25:16.230 whatever. I'm like, oh my gosh. Okay. We've got 00:25:16.230 --> 00:25:19.329 to have like a marathon. It's so fun. The sad 00:25:19.329 --> 00:25:21.690 thing is I'm 55 and I'm going to be watching 00:25:21.690 --> 00:25:24.500 it alone. That's okay, because it's a very good 00:25:24.500 --> 00:25:27.660 show. It really is. It's so good, I know. There's 00:25:27.660 --> 00:25:29.779 some parts I'm like, ooh, is this appropriate 00:25:29.779 --> 00:25:32.539 for the four -year -old? I know, it's so true, 00:25:32.680 --> 00:25:33.960 right? But I'm like, well, maybe my four -year 00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:35.799 -old just has no idea what's going on. They're 00:25:35.799 --> 00:25:37.920 clueless. It's funny, too, to watch these little 00:25:37.920 --> 00:25:39.859 kids. Some of this stuff is scary. And then if 00:25:39.859 --> 00:25:42.619 you watch some of the real Jurassic World or 00:25:42.619 --> 00:25:44.579 Jurassic Park movies, I'm like, that doesn't 00:25:44.579 --> 00:25:47.319 terrify you that that... dinosaur just attacked 00:25:47.319 --> 00:25:49.519 that person, you know? Like, they're fine with 00:25:49.519 --> 00:25:52.319 it. They're okay with it. I'm like, okay, no 00:25:52.319 --> 00:25:54.740 nightmares, but. But at least they didn't show 00:25:54.740 --> 00:25:59.119 it. They just gave you the idea it was happening. 00:25:59.619 --> 00:26:01.519 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I could talk all day about 00:26:01.519 --> 00:26:03.779 this. I know. And I think, like, thinking about 00:26:03.779 --> 00:26:06.069 these movies, too, and... You know, dinosaurs, 00:26:06.569 --> 00:26:08.269 again, like, coming back to it, I just think 00:26:08.269 --> 00:26:10.890 it opens, like, such a world up for kids because 00:26:10.890 --> 00:26:13.309 why are we all fascinated? But we're fascinated 00:26:13.309 --> 00:26:16.069 because scientists find bones and make these 00:26:16.069 --> 00:26:18.809 really cool guesses about, you know, what these 00:26:18.809 --> 00:26:21.369 animals maybe looked like and how they hunted 00:26:21.369 --> 00:26:24.779 or what they ate. Like, it's really cool. that 00:26:24.779 --> 00:26:26.920 they can do that and that we actually don't know 00:26:26.920 --> 00:26:29.200 the answers. So I think that's what sparks curiosity 00:26:29.200 --> 00:26:32.339 for kids. They can think, hey, maybe there's 00:26:32.339 --> 00:26:34.640 something more. Maybe there's another idea. Maybe 00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:37.339 it wasn't like that. I bring that into my songs 00:26:37.339 --> 00:26:40.220 a lot because I know that what I'm writing about 00:26:40.220 --> 00:26:43.700 today, that scientific theory probably will change 00:26:43.700 --> 00:26:46.160 in 10 years from now. So I like to bring that 00:26:46.160 --> 00:26:48.740 into the songs. It's like, you know, maybe we 00:26:48.740 --> 00:26:50.960 won't ever know the answer or maybe this will 00:26:50.960 --> 00:26:52.880 change, you know? Whatever you want it to be, 00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:55.299 it can be. Absolutely, right? So I hope that 00:26:55.299 --> 00:26:57.519 that also sparks their curiosity and that growth 00:26:57.519 --> 00:27:00.019 and that growth mindset too. Like, well, you 00:27:00.019 --> 00:27:02.140 know, we could think about it differently, you 00:27:02.140 --> 00:27:04.359 know? That's a great idea. Yeah, it's fun. It's 00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:08.089 so fun. Oh, thank you so much, Kara. Oh, absolutely. 00:27:08.430 --> 00:27:11.250 This is so much fun and I can't wait to hear 00:27:11.250 --> 00:27:13.849 some more music. I know. I'm excited to share 00:27:13.849 --> 00:27:15.950 this sunshine EP. I think it's gonna be great. 00:27:15.990 --> 00:27:18.750 When is that coming out? So September 19th, Friday. 00:27:18.910 --> 00:27:20.630 So like in a week and a half from now, it's gonna 00:27:20.630 --> 00:27:23.829 be out. So it will probably be out by the time 00:27:23.829 --> 00:27:27.509 this podcast is out. So make sure that you, if 00:27:27.509 --> 00:27:30.740 you have little kids, even if you don't. Download 00:27:30.740 --> 00:27:32.779 it. Go take a listen. Yep. There's some upbeat 00:27:32.779 --> 00:27:35.019 songs. There's of course that remake of You Are 00:27:35.019 --> 00:27:38.359 My Sunshine. So yeah, some fun stuff to listen 00:27:38.359 --> 00:27:41.039 to. Thank you. Thank you so much. I can't wait 00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:44.839 to hear everything and catch some more blogs, 00:27:44.859 --> 00:27:47.339 maybe. Yes, right? Hopefully. Hopefully we'll 00:27:47.339 --> 00:27:49.000 get, you can keep me on track, right? You said 00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:50.380 you'd keep me on track with everything. Yes. 00:27:50.559 --> 00:27:54.640 I will. Again, my name is Tracy Martins. Thank 00:27:54.640 --> 00:27:57.160 you so much for joining me for another episode 00:27:57.160 --> 00:28:00.440 of YQG and Bloom. And make sure that you follow 00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:04.799 Kara Kaufman on Instagram and Little Tot's Landing, 00:28:05.440 --> 00:28:10.339 the blog, her Instagram, YouTube. She's everywhere. 00:28:10.380 --> 00:28:13.339 All the things. All the things. Have a great 00:28:13.339 --> 00:28:13.720 day.