1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,480 I'm so excited to finally have this next guest on my show for once. 2 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,040 I'm usually on his show. 3 00:00:12,040 --> 00:00:16,920 We have the host of, oh, I almost said the morning drive. 4 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,960 That would have been hilarious. 5 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,120 We have AM 800's Dan Macdonald. 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,880 Hey, hey, I'm pumped to be here. 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:31,360 I've had you on my show for so long, and I always say the podcast, and here I am honest. 8 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:32,560 This is great to finally be here. 9 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:33,560 I'm super excited. 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,920 I am too, and nervous as heck. 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:36,920 Oh, God. 12 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,640 I always find the ones that where you actually know the person or have conversed with them, 13 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,480 they're harder to try and figure out questions to ask. 14 00:00:44,480 --> 00:00:46,640 Yeah, it's true, because you know them already. 15 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,040 I get the same thing. 16 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:49,040 Exactly. 17 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,800 Now, before we get started with this episode, I wanted to let you know it is sponsored by 18 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:59,680 GL Heritage Brewing Company if you sit inside or you decide to sit outside on a nice warm 19 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:04,600 night where you see the sunset and you get to play some cornhole and just enjoy yourself. 20 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,200 The variety of beer and seltzers that they have, they're amazing. 21 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,120 I had the blueberry one. 22 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:15,320 Make sure that if you're in the Amersburg area, you head out to GL Heritage, and if you can't 23 00:01:15,320 --> 00:01:19,840 be, then check them out on social media and you'll catch all their events. 24 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,160 Now, Dan, you're such a natural on the radio. 25 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,120 Was that always your calling or? 26 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,240 No, it wasn't. 27 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,680 Originally, even though in a weird way, I've been doing that since I was old enough to 28 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:32,680 have my own tape recorder. 29 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:39,120 I was making fake radio shows and taping songs off the TV with my radio tape recorder and 30 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,420 then pretending to be a DJ back selling and front selling the songs. 31 00:01:42,420 --> 00:01:45,800 But my calling originally was all writing. 32 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:53,360 I entered into St. Clair College journalism program in hopes of my dream was to be a rock 33 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:58,000 and roll journalist for Rolling Stone magazine or even work for the Windsor Star. 34 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,600 Not that I'm not like, I'm rolling the Windsor Star. 35 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,160 I wanted to work for the Windsor Star. 36 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,400 I wanted to work for a local publication, a newspaper. 37 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,080 The dream was rock star journalist. 38 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:13,360 But one thing led to another and I fell into radio. 39 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:14,360 That was my approach. 40 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:18,080 I was influenced by people like Erica M on Much Music. 41 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:23,720 She was my favorite and I loved how she just sounded like somebody who you'd put a record 42 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,520 on and she'd talk about how much she liked it. 43 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,640 And I liked that she wasn't talking down on people like a big booming announcer. 44 00:02:29,640 --> 00:02:30,640 She sounded like a real person. 45 00:02:30,640 --> 00:02:31,960 And I always thought I loved that. 46 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:33,920 I loved Sookie and Lee on Much Music. 47 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:35,680 I thought she did the same thing. 48 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,320 Another guy, Steve Anthony on Much Music. 49 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,320 And I love George Strambolopoulos. 50 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,120 I was a big fan of him too. 51 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:48,000 And locally, Lynn Martin, whose show Time Slot I Took Over, I loved her pace, her flow, 52 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,200 the way she just was someone talking about news on an eye level way. 53 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,400 So those were my inspirations. 54 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:58,160 So if it sounds natural, they were, I think those were all very natural sounding people. 55 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:04,140 Yeah, because I didn't know that your morning show was your first one until Jen from Tailgate 56 00:03:04,140 --> 00:03:07,600 Takeout told me that she's known you for 20 years. 57 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:08,600 I'm like, how? 58 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:09,600 Oh yeah. 59 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,160 Because I've been doing the talk show, the Dan McDonald show for, it'll be five years 60 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,720 now, but I can't believe that, in October. 61 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:22,040 But I did music radio on 93, down the river FM dial for Windsor, Detroit for 13 years. 62 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,040 Oh my goodness. 63 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,520 And that was like back selling the front, selling the songs, like what I was kind of 64 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,360 practicing since I was a kid. 65 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,560 And that was a whole different thing. 66 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:31,560 You know what I mean? 67 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:32,720 That was a whole different job. 68 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:33,820 But that was fun. 69 00:03:33,820 --> 00:03:38,560 That was really fun going to live shows and introducing bands and meeting bands and bands 70 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,040 coming on the station. 71 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,720 And that was a really, really great job. 72 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:43,720 I do miss it. 73 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:44,760 I miss it, miss it so much. 74 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,720 But this is more connected to the community, which I like too. 75 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:54,640 I can say I honestly do understand that because way back in the day, dating myself, Trillium 76 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:59,400 Cable, I used to write all of the ads that would go across the screen. 77 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:00,400 And that was my job. 78 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:05,200 But they also filmed with Dominic Papa, the news and all them. 79 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:09,600 And they taught me how to do the camera and a little bit of the editing and people that 80 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,360 would come in for their news or they'd go out for sports or concerts. 81 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:14,360 I was always bugging them. 82 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:15,360 I want to come, I want to come. 83 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:16,360 Oh yeah. 84 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,920 Could you, were you allowed to go along to it? 85 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,360 Just that one that they told you about, The Glass Tiger. 86 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,760 And they got backstage footage. 87 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:24,760 Oh sweet. 88 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:30,040 Well, it's funny, the behind the scenes stuff, I started at the radio station as a writer 89 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,800 with no intention, believe it or not, of one day getting on the air. 90 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,240 In fact, my first time walking through that door, I thought, wouldn't it be neat if one 91 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,600 day I had a show like Lynn Martin? 92 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:40,760 I thought that. 93 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:41,760 But I was a writer. 94 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,480 I wrote commercials, I wrote promos. 95 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:48,200 And the thing about writing those types of scripts, you have to write them as if you 96 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:49,520 are going to say them. 97 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,480 So you would have to read them out loud. 98 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,840 You couldn't just write them and hand them in because it never sounded right. 99 00:04:53,840 --> 00:04:56,480 You had to read it out loud and be like, ooh, that stumbles. 100 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:57,480 That sounds weird. 101 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:03,000 So I got to writing in kind of a smooth flow of how I just picture in my head, how would 102 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:04,000 the announcer say this? 103 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:05,600 And I'll write it that way in their voice. 104 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:06,600 You know what I mean? 105 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:07,600 So that was a big help to leading into it. 106 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:08,600 That would be fun. 107 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,680 I used to love the Lynn Martin show. 108 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,600 When they used to do the giveaways where they shock people. 109 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,120 Oh, I want to start doing that. 110 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,120 I got it. 111 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:17,120 You got it once? 112 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:18,120 I got it once. 113 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:25,000 John had gone away for work, my husband, and I was at the clinic counter at the Bay and 114 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,240 she came up to me and it didn't even dawn on me who she was. 115 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:29,440 And I'm just getting some stuff. 116 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,800 And she's like, add on to it. 117 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,520 I'm buying it today. 118 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,520 And I turned around, I'm like, oh my God. 119 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:40,320 And then I started fangirling and I was having a fit, but I didn't want to be overly, you 120 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,480 know, like I don't want to ask for too much. 121 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,800 So I just said, OK, I'll just have this and this. 122 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,440 And she's like, are you sure? 123 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:47,440 Yeah. 124 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,600 And then the next day they gave somebody a stove at Home Depot. 125 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:50,600 And I'm like, really? 126 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,640 I could have got like the whole counter. 127 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,760 Oh, next time take the counter. 128 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:55,760 I know. 129 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:56,760 Take the counter. 130 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,640 I loved her. 131 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:05,080 So when she retired, then you came on the air and I'm like, oh, for crying out loud. 132 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:06,080 Like I loved her. 133 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:07,740 What's this going to be? 134 00:06:07,740 --> 00:06:10,640 But it seemed like it was a smooth, seamless transition. 135 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,360 Well, she was my very first caller because I think I was worried about that because she'd 136 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,160 been there for 40 years and she's beloved. 137 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:18,160 You know what I mean? 138 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,060 She was just a staple that everyone knew every morning she was on. 139 00:06:21,060 --> 00:06:25,440 So when I took over that show, her and I were talking for like months in advance about it. 140 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:26,720 Just like, are you sure you want it? 141 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:27,720 It's this. 142 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:28,720 You can be contentious. 143 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,400 You can get people who don't agree with you. 144 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,560 And she kind of gave me the whole lot, the land of how it was just to do kind of a changing 145 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:35,800 of the guard. 146 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:41,360 My very first day before I even introduced a topic, I saw my producer, Will said, actually, 147 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:42,360 Dan, you have a caller. 148 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:43,360 I was like, I have a caller already. 149 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:44,360 What the heck? 150 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:45,800 And I didn't even put two and two together. 151 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:46,800 Line one, Lynn. 152 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:47,800 Okay. 153 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:48,800 Hi, Lynn. 154 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:49,800 Good morning, Dan. 155 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:50,800 It's Lynn Martin. 156 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:51,800 And she kind of gave it her blessing. 157 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,480 And it was nice, I think, for the audience to hear that just to say like Lynn Martin 158 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,840 is okay with Dan taking over the show. 159 00:06:56,840 --> 00:06:57,840 You know what I mean? 160 00:06:57,840 --> 00:07:00,120 It wasn't like I didn't barge in like it's my show now. 161 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,760 I got much respect to Lynn because like in the beginning, she was one of the influences 162 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:05,760 for me. 163 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,120 Like I've listened to her for the majority of her career. 164 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:09,120 You know what I mean? 165 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,720 So she's a huge influence on me. 166 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:12,720 Gigantic. 167 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,160 So it meant a lot being her being caller number one. 168 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:16,880 Yeah, that would be really cool. 169 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:17,880 It is. 170 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:18,880 Yeah. 171 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:19,880 Yeah, because she was great. 172 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,400 And the funny thing was, is you have a distinct voice. 173 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:29,240 And I had never put two and two together that you were Lana's brother that I had met before 174 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:30,440 you even started. 175 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:31,440 That's right. 176 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:32,440 You were taking photos and stuff. 177 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:33,440 Yeah. 178 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:38,640 At her baby shower until you messaged on one of the Facebook things you liked and said, 179 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,200 oh, my nephew is so cute. 180 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,000 And then I'm going, oh, that's Uncle Dan. 181 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,000 Oh my goodness. 182 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,600 I hear you every morning. 183 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,120 It didn't even dawn on me. 184 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:49,600 And you took beautiful photos, too. 185 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:50,600 Yeah. 186 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:51,600 They were gorgeous. 187 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:52,600 I was so excited about those pictures. 188 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:53,600 He is so darn cute. 189 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:54,600 He's a cute kid. 190 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:55,600 Yeah, he is. 191 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:56,600 He really is. 192 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,600 He looks a lot like you, Lana. 193 00:07:58,600 --> 00:07:59,600 Oh, yeah, he does. 194 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:00,600 He does. 195 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:01,600 Yeah, I see it, too. 196 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,920 Well, one thing about him, too, it's funny how you see little things come out in kids. 197 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:10,920 He reminds me of me because in any Disney show, Star Wars show, he always is rooting 198 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:12,200 for the villain. 199 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:13,200 And that was me. 200 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,340 Like my favorite character was always like Darth Vader, the evil queen, the wicked witch 201 00:08:17,340 --> 00:08:19,240 of the West, like the Joker. 202 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,960 It was always that was my favorite were the villains. 203 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,400 And he had whatever gene that is. 204 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:25,600 He is the villain kid. 205 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,240 He loves the villain. 206 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,080 And I'm like, that's just so cool. 207 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:30,080 That is cute. 208 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,960 I see a lot of me and him through that. 209 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:33,960 I love him. 210 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,080 I haven't seen him in a few years since that Christmas shoot. 211 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,360 But I see his pictures when you have them. 212 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,200 And it's like, oh my God, he's getting big. 213 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,440 I can't believe he's taking the bus to school. 214 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:45,440 I know. 215 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:46,440 I know. 216 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:47,440 It gives me anxiety. 217 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,000 I wanted to follow the bus the first day of school. 218 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,040 I'm like, I got you in case something happens. 219 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:53,400 I know. 220 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,000 It's very cool seeing him grow up. 221 00:08:55,000 --> 00:09:00,760 You are really passionate about our community, about the Windsor-Essex County area. 222 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:06,520 Have you always had that passion for our area or is this is something that's grown as you've 223 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:07,520 Yeah. 224 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,760 I mean, it's definitely something that's grown, but I've always loved the things that I love 225 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:12,760 and I'm passionate about. 226 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:13,880 I've always had that. 227 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,560 Like since I can remember what I would do in my summer vacation. 228 00:09:17,560 --> 00:09:19,400 I'm talking seven, eight, nine. 229 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:23,040 I would get on my bike and my favorite place to hang out was this place called Olympic 230 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:24,360 Comics. 231 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:25,360 And they sold comic books. 232 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,760 I didn't really care much about comic books, but they had vinyl records there. 233 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:29,760 And I'm not kidding. 234 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:34,640 I was seven and eight years old and I just loved looking through the vinyl records and 235 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,600 I would spend hours in there like pulling them out. 236 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,560 I didn't even know who half the bands were. 237 00:09:38,560 --> 00:09:41,040 I look back now and I remember like, oh, that was Roxy Music. 238 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:42,040 That was Led Zeppelin. 239 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:43,880 That was David Bowie. 240 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,320 But I remember spending so much time and kids would go into this place because it was a 241 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:51,720 comic book store and they caused trouble and the guy used to kick everybody out. 242 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,400 I wish I knew where that guy was today. 243 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,280 He'd kick everybody out, but he would let me stay because he's like, well, you're good. 244 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,720 You just quietly look at the record so you can stay. 245 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:00,920 So that was kind of my little safe space. 246 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:05,760 I did the same thing with the record shop and there was a video store by my house too 247 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:06,760 called Reruns Video. 248 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:07,760 Yes. 249 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,160 Right on the corner of Tecumseh and Alexis, I think. 250 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,760 And we didn't rewind the video. 251 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,160 It was called Reruns was further down the road. 252 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:15,480 Yeah, that was down by my house. 253 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,520 Yeah, it's down by Tecumseh. 254 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:18,960 Rewind Video is called. 255 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,700 And we didn't have a VCR. 256 00:10:21,700 --> 00:10:26,000 So I would spend hours reading the backs of horror movies. 257 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,040 And I just loved the little small shop vibe. 258 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,160 I got to know the girl and she'd give me treats and stuff when I'd be in there. 259 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:35,120 So I always loved just small businesses that did cool things. 260 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:36,400 I've always loved that vibe. 261 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,960 That was my favorite place to hang out, like a spot that was a neat place you could go 262 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:41,880 and learn about things. 263 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,840 So that's kind of where it started and just kind of grew from there. 264 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:49,440 It's just me being interested in like a few neat stuff. 265 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:50,920 I like people who do neat stuff. 266 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:51,920 Yeah. 267 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:52,920 That's kind of what it is. 268 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:53,920 Original. 269 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:54,920 Yeah. 270 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,000 And then it kind of just rose like, oh, that's also supporting local. 271 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,000 Who knew? 272 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,360 And that's kind of become the mantra of the show, right? 273 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:01,360 It's like supporting local. 274 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:06,440 But it's really just supporting cool things that I like and that I've become passionate 275 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:07,440 about. 276 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,760 And you are definitely passionate about music. 277 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,960 And I see that you're always traveling like to Michigan or Toronto. 278 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:14,960 Chicago. 279 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,560 Wherever for concerts. 280 00:11:18,560 --> 00:11:22,280 How do you feel that we hold up to other areas? 281 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,240 Because I'm sure you go to the smaller bars. 282 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:25,240 Oh, yeah. 283 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,040 I've always loved our local music scene. 284 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:28,040 Always loved it. 285 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:32,560 And that got ignited back when I was of age to go to the clubs. 286 00:11:32,560 --> 00:11:33,960 Just about of age. 287 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,920 And I started watching bands perform and I fell in love with some of them right away, 288 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,920 the ones that really, really spoke to me. 289 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:44,560 And it was when I found that little certain niche, like there were the top 40 cover bands 290 00:11:44,560 --> 00:11:45,560 and stuff. 291 00:11:45,560 --> 00:11:46,560 And that was neat. 292 00:11:46,560 --> 00:11:47,560 It was great. 293 00:11:47,560 --> 00:11:48,560 Oh, yeah. 294 00:11:48,560 --> 00:11:53,520 It was this one night, probably 1994, 1995, I went to The Loop when they had live music 295 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,320 and a band called the Kildare Trio was performing. 296 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:01,640 And I, whatever it was, flicked a switch in my head and I'm like, this is the live music 297 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,040 and type of band I would go to Detroit to see. 298 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,340 Like, this is a band I want their CD. 299 00:12:06,340 --> 00:12:08,040 And I asked them after, do you have an album? 300 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,280 And they did and I bought it, I got the tape. 301 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:14,320 And I just became a big fan and started following a lot of people in that band were in other 302 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,040 bands and a lot of the members were interchangeable. 303 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:21,800 So I kind of started following that little like crew of musicians and that led to other 304 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:22,800 musicians. 305 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,040 We have a rock solid music scene. 306 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:25,040 We really do. 307 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:30,360 And it recently, I think, saw a resurgence with some phenomenal bands who were just on 308 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:31,360 their game. 309 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,860 Like ones off the top of my head, the Blue Stones are doing phenomenal right now. 310 00:12:35,860 --> 00:12:38,360 People like Christy Cochran, people like the band Hutch. 311 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:43,480 I don't know why Hutch isn't gigantic because they're one of the best bands around. 312 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:44,480 Period. 313 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,240 Not Windsor bands, just best bands around. 314 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:47,240 Like period. 315 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:48,240 Yeah. 316 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:49,240 Flowerface, who I adore. 317 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:50,240 She's been signed. 318 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,160 She's in Montreal now doing incredible things, working with great people. 319 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:54,640 We've launched a lot of great bands. 320 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,840 It's small, but it's gritty and it's mighty. 321 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,280 And it's just really, really interesting, our music scene. 322 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:01,280 I love it. 323 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:02,480 And I think it's very strong. 324 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:03,640 There's a little bit of Detroit in us. 325 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,640 It's just, yeah, there's that too. 326 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:06,640 Right? 327 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:07,640 Yeah. 328 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,720 I'm not, obviously, I'm a little too old for the bar scene. 329 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,040 I'm a grandma. 330 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:18,240 I go to bed early, but I was thinking about when I was preparing for our podcast and I 331 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:23,040 was watching yours with Anthony Sheridan, who's going to be here in a couple of days. 332 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:24,040 Oh, I love Anthony. 333 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:25,040 I do too. 334 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,520 And you guys talk nonstop about music. 335 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:28,520 Yeah. 336 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:29,520 And I'm thinking about it. 337 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:34,760 It's like, okay, I may not listen to them, but like I know Sam, who's a pony. 338 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:35,760 Right, yeah, yeah. 339 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:41,720 And I know the Autumn Kings because they've come in to be photographed in our studio. 340 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:42,720 Christian Vega? 341 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:43,720 Christian Vega. 342 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:44,720 Vega. 343 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:45,720 Yes, guitar virtuoso. 344 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:52,160 I know him because he is actually a teacher at Elite Music Studios. 345 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:53,160 Right, that's right. 346 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:54,160 Or Link Piano. 347 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:55,160 Right, yeah. 348 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:56,880 And he is amazing. 349 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:03,480 This guy has such a love for teaching young kids that they were supposed to be recording 350 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:04,960 in Michigan. 351 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:11,680 He actually made them wait and the studio's waiting, the band's waiting, everybody's waiting 352 00:14:11,680 --> 00:14:16,680 because he wanted to make sure he was there for his students when they got up to perform 353 00:14:16,680 --> 00:14:18,560 their recitals that we took pictures of. 354 00:14:18,560 --> 00:14:20,260 So that's very cool. 355 00:14:20,260 --> 00:14:25,920 The local artists are also really big lovers of our community and giving back. 356 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,560 Very supportive of each other too. 357 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:28,560 Exactly. 358 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,800 There isn't like a rivalry, at least not that I couldn't know ever since, but everyone seems 359 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,240 to kind of have everyone's back and support each other and I love that. 360 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:36,240 They really do. 361 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:37,240 Yeah. 362 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,560 I've heard of music rivalries in some cities. 363 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,520 I'm like, well why are you like, everyone's doing their own thing. 364 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,440 Like, just you do you and let someone else do them. 365 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,920 And I don't really see that attitude in Windsor. 366 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,280 It seems a bit more welcoming. 367 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:50,280 Who knows? 368 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:51,280 I'm not a musician. 369 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:52,760 Maybe there are bands that hate each other. 370 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:53,760 I have no idea. 371 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,200 I'd kind of be in on that drama. 372 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:56,200 Get the popcorn out, right? 373 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:57,200 Why not? 374 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:58,840 As long as I'm not involved. 375 00:14:58,840 --> 00:14:59,840 Totally. 376 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:04,960 Everybody seems very, very talented, very passionate and has everyone's back. 377 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:05,960 So it seems cool. 378 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:10,720 And they don't understand that having each other's back is actually good for them because 379 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,240 then they're going to be promoted. 380 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:13,240 Yeah. 381 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:14,240 Oh yeah. 382 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:15,240 You get what you give. 383 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:20,240 And a lot of people I think in our area, for the most part, follow that. 384 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:21,240 I think so too. 385 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,120 And they're really supportive of each other. 386 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:24,120 Yeah. 387 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:25,960 Windsor, I think Windsor is that kind of a city. 388 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:30,480 We always kind of were very, we're very, we're very gritty, but we're also, I think we're 389 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,720 kind at our core more than anything else here in Windsor. 390 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:34,720 I think so. 391 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,440 Windsor and Essex County has just such a small town vibe. 392 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:39,440 And I love that. 393 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,800 It's just a small community for the amount of people we have. 394 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:43,800 Yeah. 395 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:48,120 And we're very lucky because we have a major US city right next to us. 396 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:53,680 Like that's such a big perk that we have that we can go experience Detroit and then come 397 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,920 back to Windsor and do something entirely different. 398 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,200 It's such a neat, it's such a neat vibe we have here. 399 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,680 I couldn't imagine ever living anywhere else. 400 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:01,680 I know. 401 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,920 And I used to be the one, it was so funny growing up where it's like, well, you can't 402 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:06,920 shop local. 403 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,120 It's so expensive. 404 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:09,120 It's so pricey. 405 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:16,440 And now it's like, I have a hard time going to regular stores because I just really enjoy 406 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,960 the local stores and the stores. 407 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,920 You end up talking to somebody for 10 minutes in there. 408 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,480 Well, you mentioned GL Heritage. 409 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:29,920 Well, fun fact, in 2020 when everything was shut down, I was doing a local music concert 410 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:31,800 series where we'd get bands. 411 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,480 We'd go to either wineries or distilleries or breweries and they'd play. 412 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,320 We'd pay the band and people would come. 413 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:38,600 And it was a really, really cool thing. 414 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,000 And of course, 2020 music venues were shut down. 415 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:46,460 So GL, we went online and GL Heritage was the venue. 416 00:16:46,460 --> 00:16:49,920 And one of the coolest things about that, she kind of shared every story behind every 417 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:50,920 beer they had on tap. 418 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,200 And it was so neat. 419 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,280 I didn't know what some of the more I can't think of the names now, but she'd say this 420 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:00,200 one is called this because and then she'd tell this really cool anecdotal story. 421 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:01,960 And it's like, oh, that is so neat. 422 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:06,200 And just it connected you so much to it when you're, you know, when you know the back story. 423 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:12,160 I love that's what I love so much is the local, just the story behind it and the history that 424 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:16,320 we don't celebrate enough here in Windsor or rich history. 425 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:17,320 We're getting better at it, though. 426 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:18,320 Yeah, we are. 427 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:23,000 And I really, really do think that we need to start becoming a destination area with 428 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,960 everything we offer between Essex County and Michigan. 429 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,240 And we know we don't. 430 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:33,120 This is not ripping on Wednesday, but what we don't do, what we are bad at, we do not 431 00:17:33,120 --> 00:17:35,160 to our own horn enough. 432 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:36,160 Exactly. 433 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,240 Even some of the history have I know people are going to be eye rolling, but like, OK, 434 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:45,000 the rum runners history, like, shamefully, me even, I live in Walkerville. 435 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,920 I did not go on that tour until like 2016. 436 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,720 Like, like, I'm Walker. 437 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:53,920 And I was only one of the tours. 438 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:54,920 There's two. 439 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:55,920 There's the distillery where they make it all. 440 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,200 Then there's like the offices where the really cool one. 441 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,200 They don't do that one anymore. 442 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:04,520 But 2016, I finally went to the office tour and I couldn't believe the history. 443 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,520 I'm like, how aren't there more movies made about where we live and where we grew up in 444 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:09,520 this history? 445 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,520 Then I went into the distillery tour and learned more about it. 446 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,520 But there's that there's our black history with the Underground Railroad and Amersburg 447 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:16,520 and the ties there. 448 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:21,160 I know we have the museum, but I feel like we don't we don't lift that up enough and 449 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:22,520 promote it. 450 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,080 And we should because it's amazing. 451 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:32,840 And I know that people are curious about it, especially in Michigan and United States, 452 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,800 because I'll look on my RSS feed. 453 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:39,600 I put it out to probably about seven or eight different places. 454 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:44,800 And I have more people in the United States that listen to the show than there are in 455 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:45,800 Windsor. 456 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:46,800 Wow. 457 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:47,800 Isn't that wild? 458 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:48,800 Yeah. 459 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,600 All over the United States, they listen to it. 460 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,840 All over Ontario, they listen to it. 461 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,360 But United States is kind of interested in us. 462 00:18:56,360 --> 00:19:00,240 And you know, it's funny, it kind of makes you reimagine what local is, right? 463 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:04,760 Is local for us specifically for us, not for London, Ontario, not for anywhere else, for 464 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,080 Windsor, Ontario, Windsor, Essex. 465 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:11,720 Local is geographical and local to me when I hang out in Detroit, that is supporting 466 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,400 local because that's a seven minute bridge right away. 467 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:15,880 Tunnel, bright tunnel right away. 468 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:16,880 It's right there. 469 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:17,880 So to me, it is supporting local. 470 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,480 And didn't they used to call us Southern Detroit? 471 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:21,480 They did. 472 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:22,480 Yeah. 473 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,400 Well, even the reason radio when I was on music radio, you know, stations like CKLW 474 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,160 was one of them, 89X, the river. 475 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,120 Everyone was under the impression that we were broadcasting out of Detroit. 476 00:19:32,120 --> 00:19:33,120 And they're like, oh, you're all in Detroit. 477 00:19:33,120 --> 00:19:34,120 And like what? 478 00:19:34,120 --> 00:19:35,120 You're in Canada. 479 00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:36,120 You're in Windsor. 480 00:19:36,120 --> 00:19:42,000 And that's where the legendary CKLW, which was the biggest radio station in North America 481 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,280 was out of Windsor, Ontario. 482 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,600 Like that's that's in history books, that station. 483 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:51,280 So it's really cool that that is our locality is is the U.S. is part of our locality, I 484 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:52,960 think here specifically. 485 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:57,560 And I think the U.S. knows us a little bit more than our own country does, because everybody 486 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,480 seems to think that Ontario stops at London. 487 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:01,480 Yes. 488 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:02,480 Maybe Chatham. 489 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:03,480 They might know about Chatham, but. 490 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:08,680 I know it's like, how do you think you get over to Michigan? 491 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:09,680 Right. 492 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,320 I know we're the we're the big border crossing. 493 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,240 Now that always that bugs me so much, that whole thing. 494 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:20,440 But I one thing I do love doing is asking people who aren't from here, either from Detroit 495 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,200 or from Toronto or from somewhere not here. 496 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:27,200 I love asking them what they're on the show on my radio show. 497 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:28,520 What are your thoughts on Windsor? 498 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:29,600 How do you see us? 499 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:30,920 Like the good, bad, the ugly. 500 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:32,560 Tell us what you love, what you hate. 501 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:33,600 What's your impression of Windsor? 502 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,680 And it's always things that never crossed my mind. 503 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,280 And I'm like, wow, it's neat seeing. 504 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,480 I think we take it for granted living here. 505 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,000 And I don't know, we rag on it a lot. 506 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,160 We're also maybe humble. 507 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:45,240 I don't know. 508 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:46,240 Maybe we're humble about it. 509 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:47,240 I don't know. 510 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:48,240 Yeah, I agree. 511 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:53,360 It's probably that we're humble, but also I think we just took ourselves for granted. 512 00:20:53,360 --> 00:20:55,080 Yeah, that's the big one. 513 00:20:55,080 --> 00:21:01,760 And now we're starting to understand that we have this great area and why not utilize 514 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:10,240 it and stop depending and relying on all these big corporations and companies and start figuring 515 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,520 it out, making it special again. 516 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,600 Now we don't have Boblo to make us special, so we need to... 517 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:16,600 I know. 518 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:17,600 I miss that. 519 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:18,600 I do too. 520 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,400 I wish I could have experienced that as an adult. 521 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:23,400 Yeah. 522 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:24,400 Actually, you didn't? 523 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,320 No, I was a teenager when it closed. 524 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:27,440 Well, I was too cool. 525 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,440 I went through the cool stage, so I just didn't go to Boblo anymore. 526 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,320 But when I hit my 20s, it was closed. 527 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,400 And that's when I would have had Boblo a different way in my 20s. 528 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:37,400 But I think I stopped... 529 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:38,400 Last time I went was probably... 530 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,400 I was probably 13 years old. 531 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,400 My grade eight class trip was to Boblo. 532 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:46,280 I was pregnant at 23 and they said they were going to close it. 533 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,800 And I actually went one last time by myself. 534 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,080 I drove out there and everybody's like, why? 535 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,160 And I'm like, I just wanted to say goodbye. 536 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:54,160 No kidding. 537 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,160 It was awesome. 538 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,160 Have you been out there since? 539 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,160 Yes. 540 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,160 And I got massive poison. 541 00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:59,160 Oh no. 542 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,720 Well, we took our cameras and we're going through and I'm on... 543 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,880 I'm just wearing flip-flops and we're going through the bushes, down the little train 544 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,400 tracks and getting all the pictures. 545 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,200 That was, oh God, probably about seven or eight years ago. 546 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:15,400 It's weird, eh? 547 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,080 It was really kind of creepy and sad. 548 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,080 Yeah. 549 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,080 Yeah. 550 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,080 I agree. 551 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,080 I mean, no disrespect to anybody who lives in Boblo. 552 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,080 Oh, their part's beautiful. 553 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:30,120 But the Boblo, you can see little remnants and it's just like, wow, everything's kind 554 00:22:30,120 --> 00:22:31,120 of overgrown. 555 00:22:31,120 --> 00:22:35,200 And it's just, I remember when this place, this spot had so much life to it. 556 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:36,880 It's weird seeing the weeds and you got poison. 557 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,320 They could kind of make a horror movie in that area. 558 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:40,320 Yeah. 559 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:41,320 It's very eerie. 560 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,160 But I remember being like, man, the memory is here. 561 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,360 But it's like everything is just a bit lopsided now. 562 00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:52,120 Even driving down the road in Amersburg and seeing the ramp and it's just kind of all 563 00:22:52,120 --> 00:22:53,120 falling over. 564 00:22:53,120 --> 00:22:54,120 It's like, get rid of it. 565 00:22:54,120 --> 00:22:56,320 It's just, it's ripping my heart out. 566 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:57,320 Watch it. 567 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,160 It's sad seeing it just die a slow death, basically. 568 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,160 Yeah. 569 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,160 Rip it down. 570 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,160 Yeah. 571 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,160 But yeah, it'll be a day when that comes down. 572 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:05,160 Oh, it'll be sad. 573 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,160 Yeah. 574 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,160 I know. 575 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:08,160 I... 576 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,720 Do you still read? 577 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,360 Do I read? 578 00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:12,680 OMG. 579 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,960 I read at least a book a week. 580 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,840 Well, do you still do a book club? 581 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,400 No, that's going to start up again soon. 582 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:20,400 OK. 583 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,760 I did the book club for a year and we kind of took a break for spring summer, but that's 584 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,680 going to be coming back probably in the fall. 585 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,520 Don't quote me on that, but it is coming back. 586 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,000 Oh, god, because I missed it every time. 587 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,000 Oh, it was great. 588 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,000 No, I... 589 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,040 The book club was a book that I'd kind of pick. 590 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:38,960 I'd pick a book that was like safe enough that it wouldn't like... 591 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:39,960 It'd be good for all readers. 592 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:40,960 You know what I mean? 593 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,040 We did all local authors too. 594 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,040 That was an accident, by the way. 595 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,560 It wasn't really originally supposed to be all local authors, but local authors kept 596 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,120 approaching me and I'd read their book and I'd be like, oh, this is perfect for book 597 00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:50,120 club. 598 00:23:50,120 --> 00:23:52,680 So it became like a local author book club, which is even better if you ask me. 599 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:53,680 It's better. 600 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,840 But I read a book a week and I'm constantly reading. 601 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,200 I'm a fast reader, but I love books. 602 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:00,200 Not just local. 603 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,640 I love all books, but yeah, I read... 604 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:09,960 I'm reading one right now called Bunny and it's like a weird satire horror, I think. 605 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,280 It's about all these sorority girls who hang out and they call each other bunny. 606 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,520 But something sinister is happening. 607 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:16,520 It's a really good read. 608 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,880 Margaret Atwood gave it a good review on the blurb. 609 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:19,880 Oh, I like her. 610 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:20,880 On the book, yeah. 611 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,400 So I'm a nonstop reader though. 612 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:23,400 Yeah. 613 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,560 I wanted to go to this one. 614 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,760 I got this book so that I could go to your book club. 615 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,120 And then yeah, Brewed in Windsor. 616 00:24:32,120 --> 00:24:36,680 And then I think a podcast or something came up and I couldn't do it and I was so bummed 617 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:37,680 out. 618 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,000 But that was a good one because I partnered with the Essex County Library for the book 619 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,040 club and they said they wanted to try different things. 620 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,640 They said, why don't we have the book club at a brewery? 621 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:54,400 So we went to the Grove and we had Elaine and Chris come down and we had some beer and 622 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,680 talked about Brewed in Windsor. 623 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,040 It was really fun. 624 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,040 It's awesome. 625 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,040 I don't know. 626 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:04,040 I'm just very nostalgic and I really love our area and I'm starting to love it more 627 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,040 and more. 628 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:12,720 The more I do this podcast and I meet the people and I see their businesses and their 629 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:19,400 passion and their love and we have so many events coming up and going on. 630 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,680 We're just hopping left, right and center. 631 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,120 There's so much going on. 632 00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:26,440 You do a great job of putting small businesses out there too. 633 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,760 I've discovered a couple from your podcast. 634 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,440 Like Auntie Aldo's I discovered from your podcast. 635 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:32,440 Love her. 636 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,880 And the other one too, and forgive me, you might know it. 637 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,920 I can't think of it now, but I actually reached out and had them on my show. 638 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:44,760 The business who does the wooden dome thing where it's all light and I can't think of 639 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:45,760 it. 640 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:46,760 Oh no, the NeuroThr, well that's what it is. 641 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:47,760 The egg. 642 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:48,760 Yeah, the egg. 643 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:49,760 Yes. 644 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:50,760 That when I saw that. 645 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:51,760 Did you try that egg? 646 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:52,760 I didn't try it. 647 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,000 No, but I need to because that's right up my alley. 648 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,840 But you do a great job of promoting small cool things going on. 649 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:03,800 I really do enjoy it and I love meeting the new businesses and through it and through 650 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:11,040 Jake, my friend, I've met a lot in the drag queen area in the last year. 651 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,480 I've really gotten into that community. 652 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,320 He's dragged me to drag shows. 653 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,800 You got dragged to drag. 654 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:17,800 Got dragged to drag. 655 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,720 Am I having a memory or was I at your first drag show? 656 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,460 You were at that brunch. 657 00:26:22,460 --> 00:26:23,460 That was your first one, right? 658 00:26:23,460 --> 00:26:24,460 Yeah, with Coco. 659 00:26:24,460 --> 00:26:25,460 Yeah. 660 00:26:25,460 --> 00:26:26,460 Because I knew Coco. 661 00:26:26,460 --> 00:26:28,960 And then in Amersburg, you hosted that night. 662 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:29,960 True Festival. 663 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:30,960 The True Fest. 664 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:31,960 Yep. 665 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:32,960 And now we have Queens of Pride. 666 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:33,960 We're going to be hosting that. 667 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:34,960 I can't. 668 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:35,960 Fourth year in a row. 669 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:36,960 Pride Fest. 670 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,360 I am volunteering that year and I've never been. 671 00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:40,360 Oh, you'll love it. 672 00:26:40,360 --> 00:26:41,360 So I can't wait. 673 00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:42,360 It's great. 674 00:26:42,360 --> 00:26:44,920 Now our Pride community, that I can speak to. 675 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:50,200 I've been active with the Pride community for years now, but our Pride community, you 676 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,040 know, you go to Toronto and Toronto is where the party's at. 677 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:54,920 I mean, it's massive. 678 00:26:54,920 --> 00:27:00,440 That's an economy like driver for that whole city when that comes around. 679 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:01,440 It's huge. 680 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,400 It's like a party I've never seen before. 681 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,280 But I will tell you, I will take Windsor Pride a thousand times. 682 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:12,540 I love Toronto Pride, but I'll take Windsor Pride any day because it is so community. 683 00:27:12,540 --> 00:27:18,280 The president of Pride Fest is there conducting the parade and walking. 684 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,560 Everyone is so hands on deck. 685 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:21,560 Everybody knows everybody. 686 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,240 Like it is the sense of community. 687 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,780 People come together and it just, it feels so organic. 688 00:27:27,780 --> 00:27:31,560 Not that Toronto's feels inauthentic, but because it is smaller, it feels like such 689 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,240 a community and it's, it's you'll see when you volunteer. 690 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:36,720 It's such a great vibe Windsor Pride. 691 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,340 They do such a wonderful job. 692 00:27:38,340 --> 00:27:44,440 Even the events that I've gone to, the drag queen shows in that, but even the audience, 693 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,600 like everybody's just a huge community. 694 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,600 They're all supportive of each other. 695 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,440 They all know each other. 696 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,040 And I like that. 697 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,080 The one thing, the one thing, because I host that event, that Queens of Pride event on 698 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:01,120 Saturday at Lansbury, I'm also kind of in charge of wrangling the drag queens before 699 00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:02,160 they have to come on. 700 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:03,160 Make sure they have no drama. 701 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,160 Yeah. 702 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,520 There is, there is DST, Drag Standard Time. 703 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,680 There's Dance Standard Time too. 704 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,640 Drag Standard Time is way different and I will not go out on stage to introduce them 705 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:13,880 unless I can see them. 706 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:18,960 So I'll be like, I'm not going up there because I once, once I announced and they were not 707 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,680 ready and it's like, oh my God, now what do I do? 708 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:22,680 Do I do stand up? 709 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:23,680 What am I supposed to do? 710 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:24,680 The drag queen isn't ready. 711 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,520 They're getting their lashes on or something. 712 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,760 So now I grab them like, hey, don't move. 713 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,400 I'm announcing you and you're going on. 714 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,600 So that's a bit of a challenge, but they're phenomenal. 715 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:33,600 They're so great. 716 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:34,600 They're really, really fun. 717 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:35,600 Yeah. 718 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:36,600 Venom Von Snap. 719 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:37,600 She's going to be there. 720 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:43,360 She's on my, I actually interviewed her last week and she came here early. 721 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:44,360 Oh really? 722 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:51,080 She was actually early, full on and I'm going to air that episode the week of the Pride 723 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,080 Fest. 724 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,080 Oh cool. 725 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,080 So I love her. 726 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:59,960 Now I'm glad you mentioned her because I've never officially met her before, but I've, 727 00:28:59,960 --> 00:29:04,200 I have been a fan for so long and I'm actually going to be on a panel with her coming up 728 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,360 at Art Gat, at the Art Windsor Essex. 729 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,160 And when I saw that she was on, I'm like, oh my God, I'm going to fan boy out when 730 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,160 I see her. 731 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,800 Cause I'm a big fan, but I'm a fan from afar. 732 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,680 So I'm pumped to work with her in Queens of Pride and I'm pumped to share a panel with 733 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,080 her about Pride coming up too. 734 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,080 Yeah. 735 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,080 She's really cool. 736 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:23,440 Jake introduced me to her as well and I love her and I tell you, bitch doesn't need to 737 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,600 wear a wig because she has some nice hair without it. 738 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:27,600 Really? 739 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:28,600 Oh yeah. 740 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:29,600 She's got curlies and oh, wow. 741 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:30,600 I didn't know that. 742 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:31,600 Yeah. 743 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,640 But yeah, I've been, I just love her look and she just seems really cool. 744 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:35,640 So I'm excited. 745 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:40,720 We had, we went for a meeting, even though I met her, we went for a meeting cause I always 746 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,720 like to meet everybody before and we were at the mall. 747 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:49,400 She's getting ready to go to work, but we stopped in at Sephora and by the time we had 748 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:56,400 to leave Sephora because we had tried so much of the perfume, I literally wanted to gag. 749 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,760 I'm like, okay. 750 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,000 I came home and I had to shower because it was all over my clothes. 751 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,400 I'm like, oh my God, they're going to die. 752 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:04,400 I got dragged. 753 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:05,640 She was so much fun. 754 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,840 I just, I love her so much. 755 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:08,840 She's very cool. 756 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:09,840 Yeah. 757 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:17,720 And we had our little goodbye to Coco because she came to my podcast wearing clothes from 758 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:18,720 Coco. 759 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,480 Oh, she's wearing Coco attire. 760 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:21,480 Yes. 761 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,040 The pink outfit and yeah. 762 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:29,480 Cause Coco has kind of stepped away a little bit from the drag scene as far as I know. 763 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:30,480 Yeah. 764 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,480 Yeah. 765 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:32,480 Was a huge supporter. 766 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,640 Talk about a cheerleader who really kind of got it going. 767 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:35,640 Oh yes. 768 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:36,640 And wins her. 769 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:37,640 Yeah. 770 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,960 She was an amazing performer and an amazing friend. 771 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,480 I actually, I miss, I miss them. 772 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:44,480 Well you know what's interesting? 773 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:49,320 I used to go to drag shows in Detroit a lot before there was a lot of drag shows here 774 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,120 back in the 1990s. 775 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,640 And that was another thing about Windsor Detroit that we were very lucky. 776 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,240 We could go, you had to be 18 to get into clubs there. 777 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:58,680 So you couldn't drink, but you got the bracelet. 778 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,560 You could be 18, you could be a bit younger. 779 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:05,800 But that was a neat thing about Detroit was you could be anything you wanted to be in 780 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,840 a different city where nobody knew you. 781 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,080 You could reinvent yourself and then you come back to Windsor. 782 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,120 At least I did. 783 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,000 I can only speak for myself, but I know. 784 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,120 I know I'm not alone. 785 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,280 A lot of people did that. 786 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,240 We went up to Detroit and we clubbed it up and we did what we did and we had a lot of 787 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:26,520 fun and then we came home and if you were in the closet like I was, you could be in 788 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,920 the closet and then be, I could be Wild Gay Dan at Menjo's in Detroit. 789 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:31,920 And we did that. 790 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:32,920 And I remember seeing a lot of the drag queens. 791 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:33,920 One was named Amanda. 792 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,200 Amanda Collins was her name and she was like a legendary Detroit drag queen. 793 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,200 I used to go see all the time. 794 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,000 I don't know what happened to her, but I remember she was like, she was a thing when she was 795 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,840 performing like people came out in droves to see her and she was great. 796 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,680 I love the drag scene. 797 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,280 I'm learning a lot. 798 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:58,400 I learned from Venom about drag mothers and then I learned at that brunch about a female 799 00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,400 could be a drag queen. 800 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:00,400 An AFAB queen, yeah. 801 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:01,400 A sign female at birth. 802 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:02,400 Wow. 803 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:03,400 Yeah, it's wild. 804 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:04,880 I had no idea of that. 805 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,400 Well, I think there's a big misconception about drag because- 806 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,000 And then drag queens. 807 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,960 Drag kings, yeah. 808 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,200 Drag really is just kind of a persona and a character and I don't know if you can call 809 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,680 it a shield or you can call it a key that opens up and shows a side that you normally 810 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:20,680 hide. 811 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:25,200 But when you think about it, people like Elvira, like Cassandra Peterson, that's a drag queen. 812 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,200 That's a drag persona. 813 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:27,200 I never even thought of it like that. 814 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,200 It's a wig. 815 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,200 It's the outfit. 816 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,280 And when she's out of that drag, she looks totally different. 817 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,080 She's a redhead who you could pass in the street and would know. 818 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,200 Another drag king, I think, is Pee Wee Herman, Paul Rubens. 819 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,200 He was a drag king. 820 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,440 That character, Pee Wee Herman, didn't exist. 821 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,240 That's the guy he invented with the little red bow tie and the gray suit and the hair 822 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,920 and the stupid laugh. 823 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,360 And Paul Rubens was an actor and Pee Wee Herman was his drag persona. 824 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:51,360 And it was a persona. 825 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:52,360 You never think of that- 826 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:53,360 That was drag. 827 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:54,360 You know what I mean? 828 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,560 He invented a character just like Venom invented Venom. 829 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:57,960 Coco invented Coco. 830 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,360 And who is Coco? 831 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,320 Coco is bubbly and likes pink and is kind of ditzy and kind of- you know what I mean? 832 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:04,320 That was Coco. 833 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,320 Yeah. 834 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,320 And she was very Valley Girl and kind of slutty and boob jokes. 835 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,320 And she was not like that in person. 836 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:11,320 Right. 837 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:12,320 It was a whole different thing. 838 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:13,320 Oh my god. 839 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,320 Very together when she speaks. 840 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:15,760 But Valley Girl is a Lyra. 841 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:16,760 And I love that. 842 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,120 So I love that people are exploring drag in that sense. 843 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:25,160 And I'm glad that our- I find that the Windsor-Essex County area is very inviting and they're 844 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,140 very warm to the drag community. 845 00:33:29,140 --> 00:33:31,320 Not like how it used to be. 846 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,000 People are getting used to it. 847 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,360 Yeah, I think so too. 848 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,360 And you know, if you look online, online is one thing. 849 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,200 There's always going to be backlash online. 850 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,200 And that's- I've almost learned to treat- even though I love online, you kind of have to 851 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,920 treat it like an alternate reality. 852 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:49,240 If people are going to say really horrible things online, it doesn't often come out in 853 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:50,240 real life though. 854 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,480 And for drag, the drag community here in Windsor, there is a little bit of backlash now and 855 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:55,480 then. 856 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,920 But for the most part, we're really, really accepting here in Windsor. 857 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,800 We kind of always have been too, I think. 858 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:00,800 Oh, that's good. 859 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:01,800 I feel like we have. 860 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:02,800 I mean, it's evolving, obviously. 861 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,960 Well, it's new to me, so I'm just learning it. 862 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,280 But I was shocked by the amount of people at TrueFest. 863 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,280 Oh, yeah. 864 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,840 Oh my God, I had so much fun. 865 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,160 It's nice to see that. 866 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,160 It was really nice. 867 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,200 And I won't lie, part of me still gets a little bit nervous when I'm hosting any kind of drag 868 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,200 event. 869 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:18,200 I think, oh, is someone going to come and protest? 870 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,800 Is someone- and I'll be honest, my mind even goes dark. 871 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,280 Is somebody going to try to beat somebody up or worse? 872 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:25,280 You never know. 873 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:26,280 Oh, the New York one. 874 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:27,280 Exactly. 875 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,360 Things like that I worry about. 876 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,560 But time and time again, everyone's just there to have fun. 877 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,680 And if you don't like it, don't go. 878 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:34,680 Exactly. 879 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:35,680 And it's as easy as that. 880 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:36,680 That's all it is too. 881 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,480 But if you want to go, I had a caller once to my show who was complaining about TrueFest. 882 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:45,040 I said, you know, I said, listen, I want to challenge you with something. 883 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,180 It's free. 884 00:34:46,180 --> 00:34:47,400 Just walk through. 885 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:48,400 Just walk through. 886 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,560 I'm not asking you to pay anything or tip a drag queen. 887 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,400 Just walk through and take note of what you see. 888 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:55,680 You're not going to see anything inappropriate. 889 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,480 You're just going to see people dressed up in goofy clothing, having a lot of fun. 890 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:00,480 And what's wrong with that? 891 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:01,760 If it's not your thing, it's not your thing. 892 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,000 And that's cool too. 893 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,480 But it's nothing to protest. 894 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:05,680 It's just people having a good time. 895 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,920 And I don't know why anybody would be against that. 896 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,360 Yeah, it's Boy George. 897 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:10,360 It's Boy George. 898 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:11,360 Yeah. 899 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:12,360 Did you grow up in the 80s? 900 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:13,800 Have you seen the men in the 80s? 901 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:14,800 They all look like women. 902 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:15,800 Oh my God. 903 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:16,800 Oh my God. 904 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,200 Prince wore the highest heels of anyone in the 80s. 905 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,120 And he probably wore a lot more eyeliner too. 906 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,160 And there was Boy George and there was Duran Duran and all those guys. 907 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:25,160 Michael Jackson. 908 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,160 Michael Jackson. 909 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,760 I mean, the masculine role models were Prince and Michael Jackson. 910 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,480 They weren't the most masculine guys. 911 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:33,480 No. 912 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:34,480 And the other guys too. 913 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:35,880 All those 80s new wave bands. 914 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:36,880 They wore more makeup than Cindy Lauper. 915 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:37,880 Alice Cooper. 916 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:38,880 Alice Cooper. 917 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:39,880 My God. 918 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:44,760 How hard and manly can a person be like Alice Cooper who wore nothing but makeup? 919 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,920 Well, those were always my favorite artists too were the ones who were very extravagant. 920 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,680 I was always drawn to Kiss as a kid because they had fun makeup. 921 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,240 David Bowie I thought was just the coolest thing ever. 922 00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:57,960 Amy Lennox always played with persona. 923 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:02,280 In a way all those people are kind of, you could say they're playing with drag. 924 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,000 And all of them walked the line of gender play too. 925 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,180 Like Prince was very, very feminine. 926 00:36:07,180 --> 00:36:11,360 But all of his songs were about getting it on with women. 927 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,260 He was also every, but look at him. 928 00:36:13,260 --> 00:36:14,760 He had this high falsetto voice. 929 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,040 He pranced around. 930 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,840 He wore capes, heels and eyeliner. 931 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,240 And the ass cut out of his jeans or his pants. 932 00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:25,280 But man, he got the ladies. 933 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,080 But I love that he played with gender and walked that line and really blurred all the 934 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,840 lines and that's what it's all about. 935 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:30,840 That's when it gets really fun. 936 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:31,840 I think it's interesting. 937 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,200 Alice Cooper I like that people are able to be more open. 938 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:36,200 David Bowie Yes. 939 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,200 Alice Cooper And like our friend Six. 940 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,080 He actually does his wife's nails as well as his own. 941 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,600 And they look so good. 942 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:45,600 David Bowie Oh yeah. 943 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,000 Alice Cooper I just like that we can do that now. 944 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,000 David Bowie It is. 945 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,000 It's very, very nice. 946 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:53,600 It's when you think about it really when somebody would get angry because somebody else painted 947 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:54,600 their nails. 948 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,240 Like what a silly thing to get angry about. 949 00:36:57,240 --> 00:36:58,600 It's like why? 950 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,720 And really whenever somebody is angry or gets mad or I don't like that person because they're 951 00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:06,320 a guy wearing a dress or painting their nails or they have long hair, you know back in the 952 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,600 60s, heaven forbid the Beatles had long hair. 953 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:13,680 I just think well if that's more about you than the person with long hair painted nails. 954 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,240 What is it about that that bothers you? 955 00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:21,840 Ask yourself why am I getting upset and triggered and angry and all these my back is up. 956 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,560 Ask yourself why and that will tell you more about you than the person with the long hair 957 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,440 or whatever it is they're doing the drag queen whatever you're mad about. 958 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,040 Why are you mad? 959 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,120 Explore that truthfully and honestly why are you mad? 960 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,320 And it'll be like oh my god I have a weird hang up about this because and I need to stop 961 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:38,320 that. 962 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:39,720 It's all a cute clue to who you are right? 963 00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:42,720 Alice Cooper Or go to a drag show and tell me which one 964 00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:45,160 is the from birth female. 965 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,280 Yes, that I didn't know. 966 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,880 Do you remember they used to do that on Maury Povich and stuff? 967 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,920 Who's the man who's the woman with drag queens? 968 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,280 I used to love that one. 969 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,480 I couldn't tell. 970 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,840 I wouldn't have picked that one that day. 971 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:03,240 I was shocked when Jake told me I'm like no they do that. 972 00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:04,520 Oh yeah. 973 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,560 Drag king shows I'm glad are getting more fun. 974 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:08,960 I have not seen one yet. 975 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,640 I saw one believe it or not in 1996. 976 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:12,640 They did them back then. 977 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,800 It was opening for a band called The Murmurs in Detroit. 978 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,920 The Murmurs were like a lesbian duo folk group and it was at a lesbian bar and I was the 979 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,520 token male there. 980 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,160 The only one and it was a drag king show that opened. 981 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,160 I'm like well this is neat. 982 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,440 I've never seen a drag king show. 983 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:33,800 I would have been 19 or 20 and it was weird because you know when it's when it's female 984 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,240 presenting drag it's all the things about females but exaggerated. 985 00:38:37,240 --> 00:38:41,680 So big makeup, big hair, the big boobs, the big hips like everything is big and bright 986 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:42,680 and colorful and sparkly. 987 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:49,560 So with drag king it was like everything masculine was emphasized so it was a whole different 988 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:50,880 vibe. 989 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,040 Like it was almost kind of like is this person gonna beat me up? 990 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,840 Like this is very very this is a lot of masculinity going on here but I'm glad to see like the 991 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:03,640 drag kings that I'm seeing today are very like flurry and fun and goofy and almost more 992 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,000 clowning in a lot of ways. 993 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,000 Do we have any of those shows in Windsor? 994 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,080 There are a few. 995 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:13,280 All drag king shows know but I know one that I can think of is named Hudson Bay and they 996 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,600 do drag king work. 997 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,280 Very androgynous but kind of more drag king oriented. 998 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,520 I would love to see a show. 999 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,720 Yeah Hudson Bay they're really they're very very cool. 1000 00:39:21,720 --> 00:39:24,720 Put on a very interesting show and there's some va vroom to it. 1001 00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:31,120 The drag king show I saw in Ann Arbor Michigan it was a little bit like intimidating because 1002 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,680 they were almost going by like the sexist male so it was kind of like eesh like this 1003 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:36,920 isn't really worth celebrating. 1004 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,920 Like drag queens seem more fabulous. 1005 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,840 This is just kind of a guy I wouldn't want to hang out with but the drag kings I'm seeing 1006 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:47,080 now are just kind of like fun flamboyant almost like Prince or Liberace or they have that 1007 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:51,960 flair to them but it's still masculine but it's that that different type of masculine. 1008 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:52,960 That would be fun to see. 1009 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:53,960 It's cool yeah. 1010 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:58,120 So what is your next event that you're going to be doing? 1011 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:02,080 Windsor Pride is my next big thing that's coming up you know first week first couple 1012 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,960 weeks of August and I'll be hosting the Queens of Pride event. 1013 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,560 I'll be in the parade. 1014 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,240 I'm not sure when this podcast is coming out but I'm two days. 1015 00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:16,240 Okay so I'm I'll let it simmer but I'm going to be playing a very significant role in Pride 1016 00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:17,240 this year. 1017 00:40:17,240 --> 00:40:18,960 I don't know if it's announced yet but I'm very very honored. 1018 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,800 I was given that title and I'm extremely honored for that. 1019 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:26,000 That's going to be coming out when Pride happens but I'm going to be pride in it up and celebrating 1020 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:30,520 the love here in Windsor Essex for our community and for the allies too. 1021 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,040 That's one of my favorite things about Pride is you know it used to be about more of a 1022 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:39,160 protest more of marching in the streets and being known and power and visibility and now 1023 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,760 that is still there. 1024 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:41,760 Visibility I think is number one. 1025 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:48,000 You need that visibility but I love seeing parents of people who have come out and allies 1026 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:53,600 and friends and seeing that support that is that's something I've seen evolve where it 1027 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:57,680 was eight people by the sidelines watching you march in the parade versus now people 1028 00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:58,680 are coming out. 1029 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,200 A lot of that's to do with drag queens but a lot of it's just it shows the changing of 1030 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,600 the times that we're supporting each other and that's what it's all about. 1031 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,800 My next go is I am ready to pride it up. 1032 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:08,800 I'll be at all the Pride events. 1033 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:09,800 I can't wait. 1034 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,320 And in the fall you're going to have your book club back. 1035 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:19,840 That is coming back yes and again I can't say completely yet but I am going to be returning 1036 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:25,400 to the stage as well in 2025 and believe it or not a musical and I can't say much more 1037 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,680 about that but it is some singing and it is some singing singing. 1038 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:29,680 So you can sing? 1039 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,600 I can say well I'm going to be singing. 1040 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,000 Lots of classes. 1041 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:39,920 Lots of classes but it's like a legit musical musical and it's a very prominent role and 1042 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:44,080 I can't say too much more about that but I'm already like I'm already trying to get in 1043 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,080 shape for it. 1044 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,880 I've been practicing I've been kind of changing. 1045 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:47,880 Oh is that why you're walking? 1046 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,440 That's why I'm walking that's exactly why I'm walking and no one has connected that 1047 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,880 dot yet but that is 100% why I'm doing the walks. 1048 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,440 It's to slowly build up to eventually getting back to the gym that I've been paying for 1049 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,960 for four years and haven't gone to once isn't that great? 1050 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:08,320 That's on the other side of that panel is gym equipment that I don't come downstairs 1051 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,960 for and I started walking I'm so proud of myself I'm keeping up because I used to do 1052 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:17,480 20 some thousand a day when we went keto a few years ago. 1053 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:18,480 That's good. 1054 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,680 And then all of a sudden it got humid my legs swelled up because the doctor I'm like am 1055 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:27,200 I having congestive heart failure and they're like no you're retaining water and I'm like 1056 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:28,600 come on. 1057 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:29,600 Walking can be bad. 1058 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:35,240 So I started rowing because I have a rowing machine upstairs but yeah well you're kicking 1059 00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:36,240 butt. 1060 00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:41,760 I am I'm walking a lot yeah and the thing is I tend to make these super lofty goals 1061 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:46,760 and I beat myself I don't meet them so this one I'm like you know what let's just do something 1062 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,880 that's not that challenging but it's a bit more 10,000 a day is gonna be it like that'll 1063 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:55,720 be what I reach that's what I want to reach but I've been going to you know 17, 22 so 1064 00:42:55,720 --> 00:42:56,720 I'm. 1065 00:42:56,720 --> 00:43:00,000 It's not hard no it's just just walk and just make a point of it like an hour and a half 1066 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,920 a day or an hour a day and just. 1067 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:07,520 Well that's what me and John do an hour every morning or at least we were and I want to 1068 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,240 get back to that again in a couple days. 1069 00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:12,680 Have you ever tried our Herb Gray Parkway? 1070 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:13,680 Love it. 1071 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:14,680 The trail? 1072 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:15,680 Love it. 1073 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:16,760 Amazing what a gem that is. 1074 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:22,280 It really is and if you go early enough in the morning I think around 6 a.m. 5 3 v 6 1075 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,520 when it starts to get light you can see some nice coyotes. 1076 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,080 Oh get out I've never seen a coyote. 1077 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:33,880 Well each entrance and exit on here in church in East E.R.O. there's dens there and then 1078 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,360 we have tons of deer. 1079 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:36,360 Oh I love seeing deer. 1080 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:37,360 Tons of deer and bunnies. 1081 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,280 Are the coyotes scary at all? 1082 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:47,440 The one that I saw was it had a gimp leg and it's known in the neighborhood and usually 1083 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:54,360 if you hang outside down our street on Sunday nights or they like the garbage night. 1084 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:55,360 Really? 1085 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:56,360 Yeah. 1086 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:57,360 I love that Herb Gray trail. 1087 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:03,560 Yeah it is one that like if you were to say park here and walk it and you can get over 1088 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,620 a couple of those overpasses those are killer. 1089 00:44:06,620 --> 00:44:08,400 My heart rate will go up to like 130. 1090 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,480 Oh yeah I believe it. 1091 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,720 I scooter a lot too so I do the trails like that as well. 1092 00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:16,040 We have the LaSalle. 1093 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,040 Love them. 1094 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:21,920 Those trails I did them once during the pandemic and I like almost I was like I don't know 1095 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:22,920 where I am right now. 1096 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:27,240 Like I kind of lost like my bearings I'm like I had to pull my phone like where GPS am I'm 1097 00:44:27,240 --> 00:44:31,160 like okay here I was like I could be in Amisburg right now I have no idea. 1098 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,720 I'm just wandering through trails. 1099 00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:36,040 I think I'm on a different trail system now. 1100 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:41,760 There's a LaSalle this LaSalle one that you go through a bush you end up on a ranch with 1101 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,480 horses and a mule. 1102 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,240 That's what happened. 1103 00:44:45,240 --> 00:44:48,880 I saw a big pile of like poop. 1104 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,840 But it was big and I was like um is there a brontosaurus? 1105 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,200 Like what is big enough to make that kind of poop? 1106 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:56,200 Like where am I right now? 1107 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,000 And then I saw like the ranch with the horses. 1108 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,960 Yeah and then but if you go straight then you end up in a marsh. 1109 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:02,960 Right. 1110 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:03,960 It's really cool. 1111 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:04,960 Yeah we're very lucky. 1112 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,760 I gotta explore that one again because it was during the pandemic and it was just a 1113 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:08,760 bizarre time. 1114 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:09,760 I gotta go back. 1115 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:15,920 That's when I found it was during the pandemic and I love this area and I love winter. 1116 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:16,920 Me too yeah. 1117 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:22,600 I love your show because and now watching you guys so I can hear it instead of having 1118 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:27,800 like little air buds in trying to listen to the shows but the morning drive if people 1119 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:32,640 watch or listen to the morning drive and then you they know what's going on in the city 1120 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:39,200 and small businesses events and just tired of people saying I know I didn't know about 1121 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,280 this event how'd you know about this event? 1122 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,280 I don't know. 1123 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:43,280 I know. 1124 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,920 That's the scary thing because it's a good thing and it's a bad thing but it's a changing 1125 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:53,120 of the times before you know when we had four channels on our TV and everybody watched one 1126 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:57,640 of four channels and everyone listened to the radio and that was kind of it. 1127 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,080 But now it's like oh this I heard about this on Facebook. 1128 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,080 Oh I'm not on Facebook. 1129 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,920 Instagram why didn't you advertise on Instagram? 1130 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:03,920 I'm on Twitter. 1131 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,760 Oh I didn't advertise on Twitter and I don't listen to that. 1132 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,360 I listen to podcasts, not radio stations. 1133 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:08,360 It's all good. 1134 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:13,160 There's so much more media but it did create getting that message out a bit more difficult 1135 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:18,080 before you know you'd put an ad in the Windsor Star and everybody knew about it. 1136 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:23,960 Well that's what pissed me off about Canadians, the Canadian government stopping the news 1137 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,520 on Instagram, on our social media. 1138 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:33,760 Because everybody's on social media and you can't share a story anymore on Facebook anyway. 1139 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:34,760 No. 1140 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,240 Instagram sometimes I see some getting through but not too much. 1141 00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:41,040 At least threads but not too many people use threads. 1142 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,680 I even ended up giving up on threads. 1143 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,960 I was on threads for a bit and I was kind of like eh. 1144 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,000 I'm like that with X. 1145 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,920 I get lost when it was Twitter. 1146 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:53,320 I got it and I got lost in it and it's like okay where's the people that I follow? 1147 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,520 Yeah that's what I wanted to and I got rid of X too. 1148 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:57,520 I liked it for a bit. 1149 00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:58,520 I had a good following too. 1150 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:03,320 I had close to 10,000 people which is decent and I just found every time I pull my feet 1151 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:07,760 up it was things I didn't follow, things that I could tell were designed to get me ticked 1152 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:08,760 off. 1153 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:09,760 They want you engaged. 1154 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:10,800 I'm like you know what I'm done. 1155 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,680 I'm not playing this game goodbye and I just rushed all the way. 1156 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:15,680 It's gone. 1157 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:16,680 Yes. 1158 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:17,680 But it is neat. 1159 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,560 We have so many options now but it does make getting the word out a bit more difficult because 1160 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,840 everyone is tuned into different channels now than we were before. 1161 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:30,400 And if you can't catch Dan's show in the morning I found out trying to find the stupid northern 1162 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,760 lights that your show is aired at night as well. 1163 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:34,760 It is. 1164 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:35,760 Yes it is. 1165 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:36,760 You didn't know that. 1166 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:37,760 I didn't know that until I heard it one night in the car. 1167 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,400 I was like oh my god this is me right now. 1168 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:40,400 This is so cool. 1169 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,000 And it was on every air I think an hour or two. 1170 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,800 Not the full show but an hour. 1171 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,120 Did they do the round table? 1172 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,120 I don't think so. 1173 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,040 I think it's the hour or two after that. 1174 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,920 But yeah it is in the evening as well so you can catch it then too. 1175 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,800 And I'll see sometimes texts of people texting in thinking it's a live show. 1176 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:56,800 I'll get them in the morning. 1177 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,560 I'm like oh they thought it was live at 10 o'clock last night but it's not. 1178 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:04,400 Yeah because they don't put it out there that or at least I didn't hear that this is a recording. 1179 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:05,800 Please do not call in. 1180 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,760 Did you get to see the northern lights? 1181 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:08,760 No I was like you. 1182 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:09,760 That's right. 1183 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:10,760 I didn't see anything. 1184 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:11,760 No. 1185 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,240 I'm like is this a joke am I being punked? 1186 00:48:13,240 --> 00:48:14,840 We drove all across the city. 1187 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,960 Well people okay they said use your phones. 1188 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,080 We were even in the county and. 1189 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:22,080 Nothing. 1190 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,080 Yeah it was a disappointment. 1191 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,000 I was very upset about that. 1192 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,000 Same here. 1193 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,880 I'm like well that was a waste of time. 1194 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:33,400 But anyway I so appreciate you being here. 1195 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:34,400 Oh are you kidding? 1196 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:35,400 This is so much fun. 1197 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:36,400 Anytime you want me I'm here. 1198 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:37,680 I'm keeping you up with that. 1199 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:38,920 Do please do yes. 1200 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:45,680 And make sure that you catch Dan McDonald on AM 800 weekdays from 9 until noon. 1201 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:50,520 Oh really quickly the round table was did you always have the round table or is that 1202 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:51,520 just recent? 1203 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:52,520 No that's well. 1204 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:53,800 It was once a week wasn't it? 1205 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,720 It used to be once a week during the pandemic. 1206 00:48:55,720 --> 00:48:58,560 We did it via phone too which was hard to do over the phone. 1207 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,400 It was next to impossible. 1208 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:04,600 Then when things got back and things really opened up we started having them in the studio 1209 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:08,920 and then we did it every day, every day 9 to 10 first hour. 1210 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,560 So we have different people every day. 1211 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,120 Two to three people usually three. 1212 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,440 Sometimes somebody will drop out at the last minute or something so it's two. 1213 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,120 But we always have. 1214 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,360 It's been really fun getting to know people. 1215 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:20,640 I love listening to it. 1216 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:21,640 Yeah it is good. 1217 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:28,880 So definitely AM 800 weekdays 9 to noon, Dan Macdonald and the round table from 9 to 10. 1218 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:29,880 That is a must. 1219 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:30,880 Yeah thank you. 1220 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:31,880 That is a must. 1221 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:32,880 Thank you. 1222 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,400 Thank you again my name is Tracy Martens and thank you for joining me for another episode 1223 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,200 of YQG In Bloom. 1224 00:49:38,200 --> 00:50:05,200 You guys have a great day.