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Hello, my name is Tracy Martens and I want to thank you for joining me for another episode

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of YQG In Bloom.

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Now make sure that you like, follow, subscribe to my podcast or my YouTube channel so that

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you can get any updates and you will know when we have new episodes coming up.

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And today I am here on location with a naturopathic doctor, Adrienne DeLuca.

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How are you doing?

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I'm good.

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How are you?

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I am awesome.

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Now let's just start off really easy.

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What is naturopathic doctors?

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What is that?

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So naturopathic medicine, it's a form of primary care.

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So I'm kind of like your medical doctor.

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I can order lab work.

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I can diagnose.

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We do physical exams.

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But we kind of work with the root cause more.

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So instead of treating just the symptoms, we'll treat the actual cause and try to get

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to that root cause of things.

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So I use a lot of herbs, I use nutrition movement.

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We talk a lot about stress management.

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I do a lot of acupuncture and I do a lot more lab work, you know, more in depth than your

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medical doctor would.

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So yeah, we're kind of that primary care.

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We work with doctors.

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It's not that we're anti, you know, Western medicine.

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So you guys can work in conjunction with each other.

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Totally.

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There's a time and place for both.

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And I think they should both, you know, NDs and MDs have a place in your circle of care.

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Well, that's great.

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A lot of different medical conditions come from like B12 deficiency or iron deficiency.

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Yeah.

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So I see a lot of women in my practice.

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So that's a really good example is the iron.

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When it comes to lab work, there's these reference ranges of what is normal.

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And so what I see a lot is women being told that their lab work looks normal.

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And then when I look at it, I'm like, well, you're just above that deficient line.

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Definitely room for improvement.

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And so that's what I kind of call like optimization is we're focused on getting that number to

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where I know women feel well and not just like enough.

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And you definitely have to follow Adrienne DeLuca on Instagram because I saw that she

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does a lot.

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You have a post on that and she does have a lot of really great information as well

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as on your website.

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Your blogs are really good.

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I really enjoyed them.

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The blogs are a lot more in depth.

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Yeah.

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So my website is Wellness with Adrienne.

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So wellness-with-adrienne.com.

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So the blogs are a lot more in depth and then the reels are super short, but try to keep

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them really informative and quick information.

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Well, that is a lot of information.

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When you went in depth about the iron deficiency and I was really shocked to find out that

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some labs and some doctors classify just above the deficient line as normal when...

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It's insane.

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Like I've had so many women and especially teenagers.

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I see this a lot.

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I had a girl a few weeks ago.

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She was a teen and her doctor said her iron was normal.

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She was exhausted.

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She had headaches all the time.

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She was a heavy bleeder around her period.

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And so for example, with iron, the low end is about 11 and she was at 12 and her doctor

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said she was normal.

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And I was like, in a couple of days when you don't take your iron supplement, you're going

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to be deficient.

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So it's really good to just have a second opinion on your lab work.

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Yeah.

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And my appointments are a lot longer than your medical doctor.

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So I don't see you for five or 10 minutes.

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I see you for usually an hour.

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So I have more time to actually look into things and explain them to you and have you

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understand what your lab work is saying and ask more questions about your symptoms and

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things like that.

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For say your schooling, is it the same as for an MD or?

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It's similar.

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So you still need your four year undergrad and then our medical school is four years.

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So in first and second year, we do all the same biomedical science as your medical doctor

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does.

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So we've got immunology, microbiology, anatomy, like all the ologies.

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But on top of that, we're doing our botanical medicine, Chinese medicine, all the stuff

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that we do.

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And then in our last year, we have an internship where we're in the clinic.

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You have so many hours and so many patients and you have to do all your check marks.

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So the only difference is that your doctor does four years plus they have a two year

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residency, whereas we don't have to do a residency.

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If you pick a focus, that's kind of up to you.

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So when I was in my internship year, I did pick a focus.

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I did pediatrics.

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Yes.

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Adrienne has her own podcast and it's called Wellness in Windsor with Dr. Deluca on Spotify.

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And it's really good, your story on how you ended up as a naturopathic doctor.

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I wanted to ask you about it.

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But when I read it, or I listened to it, it was a really good story on how you ended up

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because this is nowhere where you were going towards in your story to get there.

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But a lot of people I think will resonate with that because when you think out, well,

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I want to be an ambulance attendant and that's what I'm going to do.

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And you change your mind, but people won't.

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They're like, okay, this is what I said, so I'm stuck there.

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And your story really resonated with me on following your heart and just listening to

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all the signs and you ended up somewhere which I think is a perfect fit.

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Well, and a lot of my colleagues, they have those big stories where it's like, I was so

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sick and then I saw my ND and they fixed me and then I became an ND.

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And so I always kind of felt like kind of off because I didn't have that.

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But like I told women in my office all the time, I'm like, you have intuition.

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We've been convinced that we shouldn't listen to it.

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It's true.

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So I think that's what I did.

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And that's how you find what really fits with you.

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And a lot of people, it's usually their first, second or even third career is before they

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get it right.

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Well, and I feel so lucky that I found this.

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Figured it out in school.

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I just had a little extra schooling, but it was still good.

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So definitely hit her up at Wellness in Windsor.

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Wellness in Windsor with Dr. DeLuca is the podcast on Spotify.

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Yes.

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Now my rant for that is over.

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Now do you prescribe a lot of supplements?

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Because I know a lot of people are deficient, don't get enough sunlight and I wasn't sure

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if that is an issue for everybody.

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Definitely not for everyone.

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I'd say there's kind of, if we were to make it really broad, there's two reasons people

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come to see me.

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You're either trying to prevent disease and you live a healthy life and you just want

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to add that extra piece.

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And then there's people who have symptoms or they have a condition or they're looking

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to get diagnosed and we're really hitting the nail on the head.

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So if you're coming to see me and you're like, I just want to live a healthy lifestyle and

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you know, prevent cardiovascular disease, prevent cancer.

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Usually I don't give you a lot of supplements.

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The one caveat to that would be if you're like a vegan or eat a vegetarian diet, you're

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never going to have enough iron and B12.

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So you're going to be on that supplement.

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Usually I kind of see it as a pyramid.

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So if the bottom of our pyramid was, you know, stress management and eating well and exercise

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and all those things, for me, it's kind of like if we have all of those under control,

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then supplements are like the next step to like level up.

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I don't take a whole lot of supplements myself.

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The things I take, I have like an identified purpose to take them.

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So that being said, if you see something on TikTok, maybe ask your naturopath before,

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you know, diving into that supplement because there's a lot of nonsense that happens on

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social media.

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But then when it comes to like, if we have a specific goal that we're trying to reach,

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so if you need more energy and the things you're doing aren't enough or if you have

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PCOS or endometriosis, fertility, I see a lot.

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So there are supplements that I, you know, prescribe for like increasing egg quality and all those

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types of things.

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Then there's supplements.

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At the end of the day, I always let patients know what the benefits are, what the risks

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are and then cost is a factor too because supplements can get really pricey.

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But to answer your question, what I'll say is I usually take people off more supplements

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than I put them on.

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A lot of the time people come in and they have like this, this grocery bag, like of

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a list of all these supplements and I'm like, okay, why are you taking this?

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Like you don't need half of these.

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And then I'll usually change up sometimes like the dosing or the brand.

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And sometimes, you know, the drugstore brands, they're usually cheaper because they're not

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in the active form.

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So if you're taking that supplement with a specific goal in mind and you're not seeing

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that, then we'll probably switch it to a better quality that's in the active form that's going

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to do more for you.

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Now you did say, I noticed in there about fertility and different supplements.

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Women's health and women's fertility is something that you really enjoy working with.

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I love it.

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That's your passion?

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Yeah.

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So when I was in second year of medical school, I took an extra course to become a naturopathic

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doula.

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So I was trained to help women during labor, but then also support them like prenatal and

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postpartum.

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So in naturopathic school, you learn a lot about fertility.

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So that paired with my doula training is just like this beautiful like full circle thing

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because I help women get pregnant, support them through their pregnancy, make their birth

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plan postpartum, and then I'm trained in pediatrics.

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So then I see their little ones when they need help.

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But yeah, fertility is something I see a lot of.

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I see a lot of women who are ready to get pregnant and they just want to know that they're

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doing everything they can.

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And then I see people who have been struggling with fertility.

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They may be waiting for IUI or IVF or they may be trying to avoid it.

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And what I see a lot or what I do a lot is I see a lot of unexplained fertility being

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diagnosed when really there maybe hasn't been enough imaging or lab work.

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Like to me, there's usually a reason.

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Like 90% of the time there is a reason.

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It's just can we find that reason and address it?

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So something I see a lot is, for example, women's in my office.

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They're like, I've been trying for eight or nine months to get pregnant.

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So they're not at that one year level of being considered like infertility.

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But they haven't been getting pregnant.

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So that's when we look at lab work.

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When you come and see me, like I said, we spend so much more time together.

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So a lot of the time I'm diagnosing hypothyroidism that hasn't been seen, PCOS, endometriosis,

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just diagnoses that have been missed because someone hasn't taken the time to really go

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into depth about your symptoms.

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And on that note, when I ask about your menstrual cycle, I always ask, are you a heavy bleeder

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or are you regular?

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And so women usually say yes or no.

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But then when I start to ask the specific questions, it's like, oh, you are a heavy

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bleeder.

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So your medical doctor doesn't know that you have these symptoms because society has

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convinced us that just because something's common, it's normal.

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So getting to chat with women a little bit more in depth, I'm able to say, look, you

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need to go ask for this imaging, whatever.

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Once we know you have PCOS or endo or whatever it is, then it's like, okay, now we're on

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track to fix that so that you can get pregnant.

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And supplements come into that too.

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Acupuncture is really, really helpful for fertility.

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It is?

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Yeah.

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I have had patients who have done four to six treatments and they've gotten pregnant

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when they've been trying for a long time.

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Oh my goodness.

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I had no idea that acupuncture could help.

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Oh yeah, 100%.

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And supplements can help as well?

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There's a lot of nutrition that can help.

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There's a lot of supplements, whether it's the sperm or the egg that needs work.

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And that's, I don't see enough of the men in my office.

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They should be in too.

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But there's supplements, like zinc will help with the sperm mobility and motility, things

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like a good prenatal in the right dose, in the right form.

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There's other certain supplements depending what you're diagnosed with that can help with

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egg quality, egg quantity.

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And then there's other like herbs, especially your acupuncture that'll help regulate your

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period so it is more regular.

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And then we can identify when you're ovulating more specifically.

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So it'll regulate the ovulation.

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Now, are you a certified doula?

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I'm like a naturopathic doula.

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So I'm not certified through like the, there's like a federal doula little trademark.

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This was specifically for naturopathic doula certification that I got.

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So you can help with the before the getting pregnant, during the pregnancy and then the

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postpartum, we don't do the delivery.

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I don't currently attend active labor.

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I'm just doing the prenatal.

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are really hard to come by, especially because women don't find out they're pregnant until

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five weeks is the average.

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And then if they haven't been planning for it and they're like, okay, I don't know if

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I want a hospital birth.

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I don't know if I want an OBGYN or a midwife.

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And so they're kind of destined to give birth in the hospital with an obstetrician.

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And so what I do for those women is I'm filling in the gap with education because in the hospital

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we're into a routine of what makes sense for the doctors and we're in and out.

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Because a lot of the things that are routine aren't necessarily evidence-based.

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It's just what they do.

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So I spend a lot of time educating women, helping them discover what they want their

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birth plan to be.

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I'm not pro vaginal birth.

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I'm not pro C-section.

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I'm pro informed consent for you.

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There's no right or wrong.

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There's safety involved.

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But then there's also, you know, there's a lot of times in hospital where you're being

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told you need to be induced or you're being told you have to lay on the bed and you can't

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move around.

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And all these things, like you do have a choice.

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be pressured by whoever it may be.

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You don't even think about that until afterward.

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I know.

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And I talk to so many women and I'm like, how long did you spend planning your wedding?

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Like, okay, you need to spend that amount of time thinking about postpartum, especially

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because now we live in this like city atmosphere where we're so far removed from our parents

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and our grandparents and our cousins.

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Like we're all in our own little homes.

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So you don't have that neighbor next door anymore.

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Like back in, you know, forever ago when you just dropped your kid off next door while

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you went to go borrow milk from your other neighbor.

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So there's this huge like lack of like postpartum care.

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So I just, I asked like, they seem like such silly questions, but it's like, who is coming

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to clean the house for you?

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Who's coming to check in on not just the baby, but you?

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Who's coming to like make you meals and clean and you know, where does your birth partner

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fit in this picture?

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Like, are they there?

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How long of a mat leave do you have?

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Like all these questions, having them laid out can not only like set you up for physical

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success, but like during your birth, you will feel so much more at ease that you can have

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a more positive birth experience, which automatically reduces your risk of so many things.

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If you feel like you're empowered during your birth.

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Oh, for sure.

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Cause I, I know I got so tired of hearing that when the baby sleeps, you sleep and I'm

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sorry because then you're stressed out because when am I supposed to be cleaning the house

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and getting the dinners and stuff like that.

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So I always took the time when the baby was sleeping to do all the other stuff so that

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I could enjoy the baby when he was awake and it was a lot less stressful and he was obviously

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calmer cause he wasn't picking up on my stress and people don't realize that each person

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has an individual plan.

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Like maybe some work, it works for them to sleep when the baby sleeps.

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And that's something I talk about with women and like, there are going to be so many people

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telling you how to do things.

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And I'm just like, do exactly do what's best for you.

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But that's a big thing because a lot of us, if our mental health isn't up to par, our

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emotional boundaries aren't up to par before baby, that's only going to be like doubled

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postpartum.

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So I do place a big focus on mental health.

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Even when we're working on fertility, I 99% of the time, even if you don't have a diagnosed

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mental health disorder, I'm like, go to therapy, like just go and talk to someone and like

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fill in any gaps that you need to fill so you are at a hundred percent when you're at

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your most vulnerable state.

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It's true because you don't even realize like everybody has their own thing.

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What works for them is different than what works for somebody else.

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And I was bound and determined that there was no way in heck I was going to have an

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epidural.

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I was going to have a natural birth.

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I went to all the classes and I was overdue.

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to induce you.

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So he pulled on the sack and I was in labor the whole night.

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And then he broke my water the next day.

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And as soon as I had one, get traction, I'm like, okay, I need the needle.

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Thank you so much.

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And then there was a girl next to me and she's like, okay, I might want one too.

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And then I had no idea I was going to need a caesarean, which I mean, you just don't

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get it.

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And then to find out afterwards that, oh, you still have the bleeding, even though you

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had the caesarean.

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I'm like, okay, I wasn't expecting that.

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I thought I was getting away from not having that.

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And then the hormones were all over the place.

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And I think he was a week old and I'm just sitting there crying going, I can't do this.

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Well, so there's two things I want to touch on from your story.

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Number one is when we make a birth plan, it's not just like this is set in stone.

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We make a plan based on what is ideal for you.

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And then we make a backup plan.

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Oh, that's a good idea.

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Yeah, we have a backup plan.

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So it's like, okay, if this happens, so example, if you decide to be induced or if you decide

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to get the epidural, what does that look like?

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And then in terms of the baby blues, so day two, three is when your hormones just take

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a crazy, insane plummet.

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And that's totally normal.

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If that lasts longer, which for a lot of women it does, up to six weeks, they're still feeling

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down, they're still feeling super anxious, that's postpartum depression or postpartum

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anxiety.

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And there are risk factors for that.

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So having a doula reduces your risk of those things.

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Or having any healthcare provider trained in this who helps you make that birth plan

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reduces your risk drastically of experiencing postpartum depression and anxiety.

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But there's also a lot of lab markers that do as well.

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So having low vitamin D, having low iron, they increase your risk of experiencing that.

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So that's something I look at in, ideally you come to me for fertility so that we've

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set you up for a good pregnancy.

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But even if your levels are low during pregnancy, we can get those up to reduce your risk of

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those things afterwards.

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It's very fascinating.

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And it's funny you say vitamin D because it seems that C and D, they're key for a lot

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of issues that you wouldn't realize.

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Vitamin D is involved in so many roles in the body, like immune function, mental health,

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you name it, vitamin D has some sort of role, even with osteoporosis, because vitamin D

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helps calcium in the bone.

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Well even my neurologist in London for the epilepsy caused by menopause, always make

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sure that you're on your Cs and your Ds and they help your hormones stay in check to reduce

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that during menopause.

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Yeah, vitamin D has a huge role in the hormones as well.

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Do you go all the way to menopausal women as well?

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I do go all the way.

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Menopause is very tricky.

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It's not my favorite thing, but I am able to help.

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I don't think it's anybody's favorite thing.

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It's no one's favorite thing.

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It's so tricky.

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There's so much we don't know.

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And I think that there's a lot of negative connotation that comes with hormone replacement

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therapy, but there's actually a lot of good things that come from hormone replacement

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therapy, like a lot of risk reduction with cancers.

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So there's just a lot of uncertainty.

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The thing with menopause too is I don't have my prescribing license yet.

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I'm currently working towards that to be able to give hormone replacement therapy and to

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give higher dose vitamin D, etc., etc.

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So I don't have a lot of the tools.

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There's a lot of herbs that help with menopause.

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There's lots of nutrition.

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I would say with menopause, there's a lot of stuff I can do for hot flashes.

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Everyone with menopause wants me to help them get rid of this, that tummy extra.

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Is it there?

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And honestly, it's there.

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There's things that we can do to get rid of it, but it's a lot of work.

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And sometimes people don't want to do all the work.

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They just want the supplement and I don't have the supplement answer for that.

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Or we just want the plastic surgery.

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Now, I know you deal with the infertility and with the pregnancy and the postpartum

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and the children.

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And you also do deal with women just on a regular basis because you do have a women's

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program.

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Yeah.

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So I created this course.

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It's online.

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It's self-paced.

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It's for people who aren't ready for that one-on-one care, like that individualized

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care, or they're just looking for something more affordable.

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That's the reason I created it.

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Going through naturopathic school, I recognized that my profession is a luxury service, right?

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You can't access what I do unless you have really good benefits or unless you make enough

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money that you can pay for out of pocket.

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So I wanted to create a course that could help educate women on how to be well without

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the expense.

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And so that's how the course came to be.

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And it's really just the foundations of health.

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So there's nutrition module, exercise, stress management.

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There's a supplement module.

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And it's really just the basics.

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So it's really nice because I don't have time to go over that in office.

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We do over time, but this is like six hours worth of material.

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I'm lucky enough with Adrienne that this program is regular $149 online.

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And you said it's a six-hour module broken up into five?

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Yeah, I think there's six videos.

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One's like an intro.

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So it's worth about $600 of my expense.

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Time if they were to come in to see you.

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So it is normally priced at $149.

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And if you use the code YQG in Bloom, you can get 15% off, which is great.

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Now if people are lucky enough in the Windsor-Essex County area to be able to come in to see you,

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where are you working?

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Well, I'm here.

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So this is All Systems Wellness in Riverside.

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I'm here two or three days a week.

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And then I'm also practicing out of Valero Wellness in Lakeshore.

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Oh, that's great.

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Yeah.

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That's awesome.

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Trying to service two ends of town.

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Adrienne, where can we find you online?

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So you can connect with me on Instagram.

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I'm adrienne.daluca.nd.

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I try to answer messages within 48 hours.

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And then I also am on Spotify.

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So my podcast is called Wellness in Windsor with Dr. Daluca.

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Which is amazing.

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So make sure you do subscribe to that.

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And I loved it.

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It was really a great two episodes.

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Thanks.

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And you're working on your third one now?

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I'm coming across some issues, but we do have lots of episodes in the works.

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And if you want to message me on Instagram, if you have any questions about naturopathic

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medicine, please send them my way because I always try to create episodes with just

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common questions that people have about what I do.

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Oh, that's great.

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Thank you so much for being here today.

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I really do appreciate it.

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And again, my name is Tracy Martens.

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And I want to thank you so much for joining me for another episode of YQG in Bloom.

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You guys have a great day.