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When we started Northern Hope back in the Eisteddfod

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Hall, who remembers the Eisteddfod Hall? Remember

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the Eisteddfod Hall? Yes. Well, we're in a much

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better place now, aren't we? With more room for

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the children. I've seen the children continue

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to grow here. But it was a great congregation.

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I remember we had to put out more chairs because

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more people were coming than we'd expected on

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that day. And I met at the end of the service

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a lady whom I'm sure you remember, a lady called

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Monica. And she was in her 90s, I believe, when

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I met her. And I talked to her at the door, and

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I said, oh, how long have you been going to the

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Good Shepherd? She said, oh, over 60 years. I

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remember I said to her, that must have been hard

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to leave the building. And buildings are important,

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but to leave the building and all the associations

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of marriage and baptism and children and weddings

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and funerals. and then to come here. And I never

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forget her words to me. She said, look, when

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I heard about Northern Hope and Trevor was going

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to lead us, I was in like a shot. And I thought

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that was just an extraordinary thing. Because

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we know the buildings and congregations and at

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one stage we were going to buy the building from

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the Diocese and the whole congregation was going

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to come, for those of you who remember those

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days, but there were certain legal impediments

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for that, but that's in the past now. I remember

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when Trevor told me that Monica had died and

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gone to be with the Lord. I thought, what a great

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aspect that I think Trevor and the elders chose

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the name Northern Hope. because hope is what

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binds us together. And you're pretty far north,

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so it's Northern Hope. And that sense in which

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hope is what holds us together. And this passage

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from 1 Thessalonians, I thought, is very helpful.

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I think, talking to Jen, that you've had about

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three funerals in the last three years. And I

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guess that's going to continue to happen. And

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in many ways, part of life is also preparing

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for our death. We know it's a reality that we're

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going to die. Benjamin Franklin said there were

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two certainties, death and taxes. And we all

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know the second. But the first is a reality,

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too. And of course, sometimes death comes in

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old age. Sometimes death comes in middle age.

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Sometimes death comes in infancy. or even in

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stillborn children. I'm sure we've all had experience

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of loved ones who've died, whether it's a parent

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or a grandparent, and possibly even a spouse

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or a child. And the great difference that Christ

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makes is that we have hope. Look at the way in

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which Paul expresses it. Brothers and sisters,

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we do not want you to be uninformed about those

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who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve

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like the rest of humankind who have no hope.

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Paul had been to Thessalonica. This was really

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the first time he'd come in out of Asia and into

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Europe. As we know, Thessalonica is in the northern

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part of Greece, and he was there for about three...

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weeks or so, and had a ministry after he'd been

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in Philippi just before that, and then he moved

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on a way down to Athens and Corinth. He writes

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this letter from a lower part, Achaia, in Greece.

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And because he'd heard words and Timothy had

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been bringing him messages back, Timothy had

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stayed there whilst he went on his journey south.

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And what obviously had happened is that some

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people had died in the congregation. Paul had

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been preaching a message that Jesus had died

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and been risen from the dead. That in that three

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days of his experience of death and all the darkness

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of death that Jesus experienced, on our behalf,

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but he was raised from the dead. And actually

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Jesus was a participant in his raising himself

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from the dead. We don't always realize that because

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he is God, it wasn't just that he was passive

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in his resurrection, but actually he was active

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in his resurrection. And that of course was the

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hope that Jesus was gonna come back and draw

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all people to himself. There were some in the

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early church who thought that Jesus would come

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back in their lifetime. And in a sense, that's

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always a good way to live your life, to think

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that Jesus could come back tomorrow. He'd rather

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come back after school holidays, but nonetheless.

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I'll never forget when I was in America, I proposed

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to my wife in America because I was studying

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there. She'd come across, we got engaged, and

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then there was a 12 -month period before we actually

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got married. So it was a long engagement. And

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she said, it sounds awful, I just hope that Jesus

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doesn't come back before we get married. It was

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very selfish of her. But nonetheless, but you

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understand the experience. And of course, we

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should always live in the light that we know

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the sun will shine tomorrow. But Jesus' return

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is more certain than the sun rising tomorrow.

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But there was those who had died and there was

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obviously some uncertainty, a letter had come

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back from the Thessalonians to Paul. And so he

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writes this particularly with regard to the question

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of death and how I thought this was a great opportunity

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for us as Northern Hope to understand what happens

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when you die. It's one of those questions that

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you sort of think, we always went, well, what

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happens when, if you go to a funeral and you

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see the casket there? In America, of course,

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they have open caskets, which is not our custom

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in Australia, for which I think I'm pleased.

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And I remember a family was going and they'd

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have a viewing of the casket before the actual

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funeral. And it was a grandmother and the granddaughter

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who was about six or seven. came along and her

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parents encouraged her to say goodbye to grandma.

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And she stood up or was held up because she was

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small, looked in the coffin and there she saw

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a lifeless corpse. And she said to her mother,

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that's not grandma, that's not the grandma that

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I know. She was alive and full of life and there

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that sense in which there was something missing

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in that corpse. because even the very word corpse

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is such a cold, dark, sort of ugly kind of word,

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isn't it, really? It's a lifeless body. When

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God created Adam and Eve, he created them as

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body and soul. There are two aspects to our lives.

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The Greeks had a dualism of body versus soul.

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So Plato would say, The body is just a prison

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house for the soul to be released from and the

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body is of no importance. But the Bible makes

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it very clear the body is important and is part

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of the image of God. It's not a dualism but a

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duality. Remember Jesus' words to the Jews of

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his days, fear not him who can kill the body

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but not the soul. But fear Him who can cast both

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body and soul into hell. I remember when I was

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young, I thought, oh, that must be the devil

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we should fear. But of course, Jesus is talking

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about His heavenly Father. Fear Him who has judgment

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in His hands. We don't fear Satan who can kill

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the body or humans who can kill the body. Death

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actually is not the end for us. But death. everlasting

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death, the second death as the book of Revelation

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describes it, that is something to be feared

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when body and soul are cast into everlasting

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damnation. So body and soul are actually there.

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Now listen to the words again if I can repeat

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them though they were read to us so well. Verse

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14, for we believe that Jesus died and rose again.

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And so we believe that God will bring with Jesus

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those who have fallen asleep in him. Notice the

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ground of Paul's hope. It's Jesus' resurrection

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from the dead. He's the first person to be raised

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from the dead, raised incorruptible, raised never

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to die again. Now, of course, you know that in

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Jesus' ministry, he did raise people from the

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dead, Lazarus, for example, and the widow of

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Nain's son. But of course, the raising of Lazarus

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was back into this life, only to die again. I

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always felt sorry for Lazarus' family to have

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two funeral costs. Have you ever thought about

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that? And to think possibly at his second funeral,

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do you think he might rise again? but if Martha

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or Mary were there, yes, he will rise again,

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but at the day of resurrection. The very words

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she spoke to Jesus. And Jesus gave a foretaste

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of that. It was in a sense, It wasn't a resuscitation

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because Lazarus was truly dead for four days,

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as we know, but it was a resurrection back into

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this life. It was a revivication, if you like,

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a better word than resurrection. If we use the

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word resurrection to be breaking the bonds of

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this earthly coil, so we might live in resurrection

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glory with new bodies, with changed bodies. That's

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the hope that God holds out for us. Isn't it

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wonderful? I mean, if you look at your neighbor,

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or perhaps if they look at you, they can see

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those wrinkles in the face and those crow's feet

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and that graying hair. And yes, our bodies are

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aging, aren't they? We see these young people.

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Wouldn't it be great to be young again, but to

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have all the wisdom of older age. That's what

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we'd really like. But resurrection bodies, our

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bodies are going to be perfected and resurrected

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like Jesus' body. It doesn't yet appear what

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we shall be like, but we know we shall be like

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him. But notice the way in which Paul expresses

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this. He says because of Jesus' resurrection,

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God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen

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asleep in him. In other words, Jesus is going

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to bring with him all the saints who have died.

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all those who have put their trust in Jesus,

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all those who have known God's mercy and forgiveness

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and repented of their sins and become members

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of his family. But he then goes on in verse 15,

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according to the Lord's word, we tell you that

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we who are still alive and left until the coming

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of the Lord, we will certainly not precede those

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who have fallen asleep. What does that mean?

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How can we proceed if Jesus is gonna bring with

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him those who have fallen asleep? For the Lord

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himself will come down from heaven with a loud

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command, with the voice of the archangel and

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with the trumpet call of God and the dead in

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Christ will rise first. So here's the conundrum

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as you read this passage. How is it that Jesus

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is bringing with him those who have fallen asleep

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but the dead in Christ rise first and we who

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are left on earth we will then meet the Lord

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in the air and be forever with the Lord? Well

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of course the best way to understand that is

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that Jesus is bringing the souls of those who

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have died. Their bodies are in the grave. So

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the resurrection will take place at that last

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day when body and soul are reunited but with

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resurrection body. Whatever body goes into the

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ground where it's consumed, ashes to ashes, dust

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to dust, whether in cremation with ashes or whether

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in a body buried in the ground, that body will

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decay. and waste away, but God in his mercy is

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going to revive that body, resurrect that body,

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and bring new life into it. Like in Ezekiel's

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vision of the valley of dry bones, where the

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bones are stood up and flesh were added to the

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bones, and a whole army of God's people arose

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from the dead. That picture of the resurrection

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of Israel as the nation of God has its application

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towards us too. Some people have found this difficult

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to understand because as one philosopher said,

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well if the souls are in heaven, how can they

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speak? Because their bodies are the organ for

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speech. I remember I read a philosopher once

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when I was in university. He said, oh, people

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often have these visions of being in the hospital

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bed and then their spirit rises up and they look

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down and see their body. And the philosopher

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said, their eyes are in their body. He said,

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what are they looking with if they're in their

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souls? Well, it's interesting. In the Book of

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Revelation, there's a passage there where the

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saints, the souls of those who've died cry out,

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how long, oh Lord? How long oh Lord and that

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in Revelation 6 that tells you a couple of things

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It tells you that heaven is temporal Time still

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continues in heaven because you can't say how

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long oh Lord Unless you're in time only God's

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outside of time. We will always be time bound

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as created beings God is timeless He knows the

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end from the beginning, but we're always in time.

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Now, to the answer to the question, well, how

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can souls cry out? How long, O Lord? My answer

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is simple, in the same way in which God, the

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Father, who has nobody, can speak. He's got it

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solved. We don't need to worry about that philosophical

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conundrum. If God can do it, he can allow his

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souls to do it. Remember the very first aspect

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of God we know of is that God spoke, let there

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be light. Well, he's got power over voice control

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and a voice box and all the rest of it. And so

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these souls, but why are they crying out, how

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long, oh Lord? They're crying out, how long,

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oh Lord? How long before you end this old earth

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and bring in the new heavens, the new earth?

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How long before we get our resurrection bodies?

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How long before we see justice upon the earth?

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Because the prayers are going up of the saints

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in heaven like incense before the throne of God.

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They're actually praying for us. God's people

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are one. And then you might remember the very

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last verse of Hebrews 11. where the writer of

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the Hebrews gives this catalog of all the people

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of faith from Adam right through the Old Testament

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saints. And he says, they were not made perfect

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because they're awaiting us. They'll only be

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made perfect when we join them. The perfection

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of the people of God is gonna come place at the

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last day. And you know, that's exactly, that

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separation of body and soul is exactly what Jesus

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experienced. When you celebrate Good Friday and

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Easter Eve, the Saturday, and then Easter Day,

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the Sunday, we know where Jesus is on Good Friday.

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He's on the cross, isn't he? We know where Jesus

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is on Easter Day. He's risen from the dead. Where

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is he Easter Eve? Where is he on the Saturday?

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Well, we know that his body's in the tomb, sealed

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with a stone. Soldiers taking place. Joseph Arimathea

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had been there and Nicodemus to actually help

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make sure it was secure. The women were coming

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with embalming ointments and things like that

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on the Sunday morning only to be surprised that

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the tomb was empty. But where was Jesus? on Easter

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Eve. His body was in the tomb, but his spirit

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was with his heavenly father. What were the last

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words of Jesus on the cross? Into your hands,

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I commend my spirit. Spirit and soul meaning

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the same thing, different perspectives. What

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did he say to the thief on the cross? Today,

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you'll be with me in paradise. But that thief's

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body was still in the ground or in the tomb wherever

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he was buried. His body was there. After the Day of

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Pentecost, they talk about the coming of the

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Messiah. The Messiah had to be David's son. And

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of course, Peter says, well, we've got King David's

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burial plot here in Jerusalem. His body's there.

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It's fit for corruption. but David's greatest

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son is going to overcome corruption and then

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all God's people will be raised from the dead.

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So if you look at it that way, have a look at

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these verses again you see. So in verse 14 we

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have, we believe that Jesus died and rose again

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and we believe that God will bring with Jesus

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those who have fallen asleep in him and that

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in him is very important because the souls of

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the saints are in Christ. Death does not separate

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us from Christ. Isn't that a wonderful thought?

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Death will not separate us from Christ. But according

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to the Lord's word, that we who are left alive,

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if Jesus was to come back today or tomorrow,

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then we would see Jesus bring the souls, then

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we'd see the dead rise in Christ, and then we

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would join him. So therefore he says, for the

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Lord himself will come down from heaven, verse

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16, with a loud command, with the voice of the

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archangel, with the trump of call of God, and

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the dead in Christ will rise first. And after

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that, we who are still alive and are left will

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be caught up together with them in the clouds

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to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be

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with the Lord. forever. Northern Hope. You're

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about giving hope to Australians or even foreigners

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who may be living in Cairns, to bring them into

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the hope that only the Lord Jesus can do. Only

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He has conquered death. Every other religion

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has all kinds of strange views about reincarnation

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or what happens after death, but none of them

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have that combination of body and soul, that

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sense of the unity that God created in the very

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beginning, that unity which reflects the image

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of God so that our bodies are important. That's

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why sexual sins are so important in the New Testament

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because don't just think you can be freelance

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with your bodies as if your soul is pure. No,

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it's body and soul which has made us. Remember

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when Paul writes to the Philippians and he says,

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I'd rather be away from the body and at home

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with the Lord? That sense in which he recognizes

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that separation, but he'd rather be further clothed,

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that is, to have that resurrection body. And

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the word further clothed is like a double, it's

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like a pullover. You know, we think of a jumper

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as like a pullover. You pull it over something,

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that body will be, that resurrection body will

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be pulled over, if you like, that naked soul.

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That's the glory for which the saints in heaven

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are now waiting. They continue to call out, how

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long, oh Lord? And they're waiting for us. They're

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waiting for us to join them. You've all seen

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the difference between the funeral of a non -Christian

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and the funeral of a Christian, haven't you?

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It's so palpable. It's so sad. Because those

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who die outside of Christ die without hope. But

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those who die in Christ die with hope. They're

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much far better off. It's we who are left behind,

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but we don't need to worry about that. So dear

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Monica, she's with the Lord. She is there. And

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all the other saints that you have put to rest,

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and you yourself, when the time comes, your hope

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is in Jesus. who alone has conquered death. Therefore,

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our trust in him is there. So what are Paul's

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last words? Therefore, encourage one another

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with these words. Where to encourage one another

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as we gather together week by week or in our

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growth groups as we seek to learn more of the

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Lord Jesus through his word. We encourage one

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another to say, yes, fear not. Death is not the

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end. It's just a new beginning and the resurrection

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that will bring even a whole new phase of God's

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recreated order with a new heavens and new earth

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where every tear we wiped away where death itself

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will be no more and all the agonies and pains

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and horrors of this world will disappear and

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we shall be in the presence of the Lord resurrection

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bodies forever. May God strengthen us with that

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hope. May He encourage one another with these

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words and may we invite others to join us in

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that hope for Jesus sake. Let's pray. Father

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God we thank you for your word, for the certainty

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of the word that breaks the fears of death and

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gives us that wonderful encouragement that you

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are sovereign over life and death, and that you'll

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bring us one day before your presence, and one

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day in your mercies and in your timing, you'll

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give us those resurrection bodies which we'll

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share with the Lord Jesus, and so be able to

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serve you forever. And we ask this in his name.

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Amen.
