1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,000 This is MJ, I'm an author, I'm an artist, I'm an analyzer. You can find all my work at MJMunoz.com. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:13,000 So I want to talk about chapter 7 of Peter Pan, continuing my chapter by chapter discussion of it, and my... 3 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,000 not my theme for this, but the title of this episode at least is going to be, 4 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:22,000 the narrator is your crazy uncle. And I'll get to that at the end here I think. 5 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:28,000 So, it's interesting, one of the things I'm talking about in this episode, or this chapter rather, 6 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,000 is that adventure kind of is a point of view. 7 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:36,000 Kind of a tangent related to that, well that's the tangents after. 8 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:41,000 Peter's so used to having adventures, fighting with pirates and Indians and hunting animals. 9 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:51,000 Maybe even bears from time to time, that the life that Peter, or sorry, that Michael and John and Wendy know, 10 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:56,000 is kind of like an adventure for him, because it's unknown and it's strange and it's not what he's used to at all. 11 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:08,000 So, it's almost, I mean, the idea that adventure is relative and point of view comes into the matter is here. 12 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:14,000 You know, it's funny, people will travel hundreds of miles or thousands of miles, they'll fly hours on a plane, 13 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:18,000 to go somewhere they've never been before, to do things they've never done before, 14 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,000 when they could probably just drive somewhere close by and do that same sort of thing. 15 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,000 And I find that kind of a funny thing to be pointed out here in the book. 16 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:31,000 Just kind of interesting, not like anything major to say about it, but it's funny because Peter pretends he's the school kid, 17 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:36,000 and I don't know, just like other lame stuff that's just not very cool, 18 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,000 and he's like, oh, this is a great adventure for me because I'm not used to it, and that's kind of funny, 19 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,000 and it proves the point, or it's what caused me to draw the point. 20 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:54,000 Another thing is Peter will go out and he'll have unadventures on his own, or he'll go out and have adventures. 21 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,000 When I say unadventures, I just mean boring stuff, like, oh, I just took a walk, but maybe he's, you know, bloody, 22 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,000 and you're like, no, I don't think he just took a walk, something else happened. 23 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:05,000 But it is explained that he'll like say he killed somebody and then there won't be a body, 24 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:11,000 or he'll say he didn't kill somebody and then there is a body out there, and things like that. 25 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,000 So it's just, I know I've kind of talked about this a decent amount, 26 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:20,000 but it's interesting how this idea of this lack of reality for Peter keeps coming up, 27 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,000 and I don't really know what it means, I don't know what we're supposed to take away from it, 28 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,000 I don't know what the child audience was supposed to take away from this, 29 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:32,000 but it is interesting that it keeps happening, it keeps being a thing that he just, you know, 30 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:39,000 really can't tell the difference between reality and imagination, and I don't know what that means. 31 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:48,000 Anyway, there was a reference in probably chapter four or so when Captain Hook was flying, 32 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:53,000 not flying, Captain Hook was running around on the island with his men, and he found, 33 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,000 what was the guy's name, Windows or something like that? 34 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:05,000 Anyway, oh man, anyway, he killed some guy, which is not funny, but you know, 35 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,000 it was framed funny in the book, so that's why I get to laugh about it. 36 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:15,000 Anyway, he found the hollow tree entrance to Pan's base, 37 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:20,000 and specifically he like sat on the mushroom, I think, and it got hot under him, 38 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,000 and he realized that there was a large mushroom that he was using as a stool, 39 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,000 and he realized that it was stuffed into the chimney there, 40 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,000 and it was catching the heat from the fire that was down in the chimney, 41 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:35,000 and he said, oh, these dumb kids, they went ahead and, you know, 42 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:42,000 build these seven hollow tree pathways or tunnels into this underground home for themselves, 43 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,000 and you know, they're so dumb, they don't need more than one, 44 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,000 they could all use the same entrance, which I'll get to in a moment, 45 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:54,000 but more than that, they have no mother, so I'll pick a, Mr. Smee, let's go back to the ship, 46 00:03:54,000 --> 00:04:00,000 and let's pick a cake and put nice green icing on it or frosting on it, 47 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,000 and make it poisonous to these kids. 48 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:03,000 We'll leave it here for them because they have no mother. 49 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,000 They're warning them not to eat strange food that somebody left out. 50 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,000 They will eat this and they'll all die, and that will be the end of Peter Pan and the Lost Boys, 51 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,000 which is crazy because that actually happened. 52 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,000 He didn't just mention it and then Barry forgot to do anything with it, 53 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,000 he forgot to follow up with it. 54 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:23,000 It happens here that we hear about the fact that the cake did get baked, it did get left there, 55 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,000 and Wendy, as their mother, did stop them from eating this strange cake 56 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,000 multiple times until it became so hard that they used it as a missile, 57 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,000 which means, you know, like a projectile, and they threw it, I don't know, somewhere, 58 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,000 and Hook ended up tripping over it, which is pretty hilarious. 59 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,000 That's a lot of fun for me. 60 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:43,000 So, anyway, it's kind of ridiculous. 61 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,000 Oh yeah, and then Hook's wrong, apparently. 62 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,000 You do need a separate entrance for each person because it's made for each kid, 63 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:53,000 but I don't think it actually needs to be that way. 64 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,000 That's just how Peter wants it, so that's what happens, so it's kind of interesting. 65 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:02,000 And then Wendy's wolf appears. 66 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,000 It comes back to her. 67 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,000 This is something I mentioned in the short that I did talking about this. 68 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,000 It's something I mentioned previously, I believe, 69 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:17,000 because the Indians belong to John and Michael, the little one. 70 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,000 I don't know what he particularly imagines in the Neverland, 71 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,000 but part of the Neverland that Wendy imagines, I believe, 72 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:30,000 is the mermaid lagoon as well as the wolf that she has there. 73 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,000 And I don't know what the deal is with the wolf. 74 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,000 I don't know if it comes back. 75 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,000 If it does later, I'll gladly talk about that. 76 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,000 I hope it does. 77 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,000 I have ideas for what can be done with the wolf, but it also, 78 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:43,000 the wolf is mentioned in juxtaposition to this long series of adventures, 79 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:48,000 and days and nights pass so quickly that the darling children are forgetting their parents, 80 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,000 and Wendy's making tests for the boys to do 81 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:56,000 so that they would remember their mother and father and what it's like to be home. 82 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,000 But time passes differently there, and it passes very quickly. 83 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:04,000 There are so many suns and moons that suns and moons pass very quickly, 84 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:09,000 and you kind of lose grip of time, which is super interesting. 85 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,000 And it mentions that there are many, many adventures, 86 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:17,000 and almost implying that there are dozens of adventures to be told of 87 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,000 that aren't contained in this book. 88 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:24,000 He made some jokes, like it would take a text document book to fill all the adventures. 89 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:30,000 So there's volumes and volumes more of Peter Pan-worthy stories that are told, 90 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,000 or that are there, out in the ether to be imagined and to be told. 91 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:37,000 And I was thinking it'd be cool to kind of do that as a project. 92 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:41,000 Like somebody could do interquels or sequels to this original book, 93 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,000 which is in the public domain, and it'd be totally fine, 94 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,000 because you can totally do it. 95 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:50,000 There's really room to do it as long as you leave everybody alive 96 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,000 to go into chapters eight and beyond from this. 97 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,000 You could do lots of stuff, and I'm thinking you've got to put Wendy on that wolf 98 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,000 and have her riding it around, because that'd be super cool. 99 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,000 Or even having it savor from pirates or Indians or whoever. 100 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,000 You could do a lot of cool stuff with that. 101 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,000 I think it'd be a lot of fun. 102 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:12,000 And then as the chapter closes up, the narrator goes on and on and on. 103 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,000 He mentions like six or so different adventures, and he says, 104 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,000 will we tell this one, will we tell that one? 105 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,000 Oh, I flipped a coin. 106 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,000 Maybe I should flip again and do best two out of three, and all this stuff. 107 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,000 And then he finally decides on one, the mermaid lagoon story he's going to tell, 108 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:29,000 which is going to be what chapter eight contains, if it's not about it entirely. 109 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,000 And I was thinking, who's vamping here? 110 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,000 Is that the narrator vamping for humor? 111 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:37,000 Is that Barry not knowing what to write and just making stuff up on the fly? 112 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,000 Or what, is that purposeful? 113 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,000 Was it a crutch and then he leaned into it and made it his thing? 114 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,000 Or what? I don't know. 115 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,000 But that's why I said, it's like your crazy uncle's telling you this story. 116 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,000 I was going to say your drunk uncle, but I don't know how well that would play. 117 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,000 So I don't know. It's kind of interesting. 118 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,000 Or it's very interesting how fertile the Neverland is for stories 119 00:07:55,000 --> 00:08:01,000 and how this story itself, the narration of it, provides an availability, 120 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:06,000 an option, a opening for somebody to make these untold tales of Peter Pan 121 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,000 or untold tales of Neverland or something like that. 122 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,000 And I think it would be a brilliant idea. 123 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,000 I'll leave it to somebody else for now. 124 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,000 But I think that would be pretty cool. 125 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,000 Anyway, that's all I have to say for now on this matter. 126 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,000 I've got other work to do, so I'm going to get to it. 127 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:25,000 I encourage you to check out my website to find full show notes. 128 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,000 I'm going to have all these episodes linked together in a single post 129 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:32,000 so you can listen to them all, including the Fortress Fiction episode I will do 130 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,000 after reading through the whole book and gathering my thoughts on it 131 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,000 and figuring out what exactly I think of this book and where it belongs 132 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:43,000 in the Fortress Fiction or whether it belongs or not in the Fortress Fiction. 133 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,000 And yes, I like that a lot. 134 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:50,000 I would also encourage you to subscribe, share, like this, 135 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:54,000 to get more people listening to this, more people paying attention to these stories 136 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:59,000 and my treatment of them so that we can have a thriving community talking about literature, 137 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,000 children's literature specifically, because that's an area of my focus right now 138 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,000 is I want to be writing children's literature, 139 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:09,000 so I figure I should master middle grade fiction by consuming as much of it as I can, 140 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,000 analyzing and thinking about it and figuring out how it works 141 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:16,000 and figuring out how to make my own compelling stories that will become classics 142 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,000 like Peter Pan and other great books. 143 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:23,000 So until next time, folks, take care, be well, and keep reading. 144 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,000 I hope you enjoyed that. 145 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:31,000 Go to MJMunoz.com to leave any questions, comments, or other feedback you might have. 146 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:35,000 There you can find all of my analysis, art, and fiction. 147 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:40,000 I cover books, tokusatsu, comic books, anime, and more. 148 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:44,000 Look around. 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