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This is MJ. I'm an author, I'm an artist, I'm an analyzer. Welcome to Fortress Fiction,

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Episode 9. Join me as I talk about Ronia, the robber's daughter, by Astrid Lindgren.

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This book was published in 1981. Here's the synopsis. Ronia grows up among a clan of wild

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robber men in a medieval magical forest. After befriending the son of a rival robber chieftain,

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she attempts to unite the feuding families. Here's how to read this book. The free book

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or the book can be borrowed for free from a library or purchased from many online retailers

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including the official Astrid Lindgren site which will be linked in the show notes and in

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audiobook format as well from Kobo and Audible which are both linked in the show notes. So

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obviously you can go to a library and get a paperback. I know there's a hardback that we

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read the paperback with the family and I read a paperback of it that I have actually the same

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cover pictured on the thumbnail here and we got that off of Amazon or whatever so anyway that's

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what you can do. But here we go. Here's what I thought about it. Does this book belong in

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the Fortress Fiction? I'm gonna say no. It doesn't qualify to be a foundation in the Fortress Fiction.

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It doesn't really belong in a place of great honor in the Fortress Fiction. It's not a cornerstone.

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It's a place of little honor. It doesn't belong in the dungeon certainly like Tug Everlasting for

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example but it's I don't know there's just something kind of missing there. There are

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positive moral elements but there isn't quite the full impact that I want for books in the

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Fortress Fiction and that's why I'm negative on it you could say or not as positive as I absolutely

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could be. A book needs neither to be perfect nor to be part of the Fortress Fiction for me to like

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it and for me to call it a good book so I'm gonna talk a little bit about the book and the things I

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did like about it. So this book is charming and it's competently written. Lingrin has a very

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interesting way she presents everything which is it's very simple and very straightforward and

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somehow that simplicity feels like homey and comforting and warm and I really like that. It's

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an interesting coming-of-age story in a fantasy setting but there's no epic quest. The quest is

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very internal very home-like and I mean it really isn't even a quest but it is a coming-of-age that

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takes place over about a year the main narrative that is. And really I would say the focus of the

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plot is Rhonia learning about the larger world the world outside of the fort that she grew up in

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and which is encompassed by the forest but then there's this other robber band that she interacts

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with through mostly through Birk or Burke and she learns like that what she's known all her life

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isn't that just what she's known all her life isn't what everything is and that there's something

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beyond that and outside of that and she kind of learns that the world is a bigger place than she

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knew it was and we see her interacting with that idea and coming to terms with it in different ways

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which is really interesting. I really like the world building in the setting so there's a magical

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forest setting there are all these fantasy creatures there's merc trolls, rump hobs, gray dwarves,

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harpies and maybe some other things there's all the unearthly ones I forgot about them and the

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creatures are less like these big mythical creatures who are really scary or really charming and

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endearing they're more like animals with like a human intelligence and they have some mystical

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properties or powers that can affect Birk and Rhonia negatively the worst of which would be

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the harpies who like love to kill humans and apparently they'll abduct humans and make them

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serve them which is really awful but the animals or the the fantasy creatures are more just like

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these very sophisticated animals that present like a fantasy type of danger except for the

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unearthly ones which like kidnap children or something it's very strange I don't exactly know

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what they do and that's the thing is Lundgren presented to you as if you're familiar with all

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these different characters and she presented to you in a way like there's never an as you know

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it's just they talk about what these different creatures do to some extent but it's done in a

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really natural organic way that just throws you into it and expects you to accept it and to roll

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along with it and to figure out what some of these things are but they don't really matter

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because they're just like it's like a bear or you know whatever honey badger it's just there's

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these different animals that they encounter basically and they have to deal with them they

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present some dangerous them like I said but it's nothing that terrible I guess there's no like

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a curse of a wizard or which or anything I have that they have to deal with but they do live in

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a magical world and I really feel like her writing also captures the beauty and wonder of nature from

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a child's perspective and from an adult's perspective as well you know lots of us don't always get to

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appreciate nature as much as we might want to and this book helps to breed and foster an appreciation

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for nature because of how much time they spend in the forest and how much they love their forests

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and their woods and the animals that live there the natural animals foxes horses even some bears

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they have encounters with sort of and it's all really interesting so running Burke really are

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the central characters Ronia is the titular character and Burke is very much her counterpart

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and you know they come from these rival robber gangs robber bands who are very much parallels

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or mirrors of each other and I think that's really interesting there's not too much to say

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about that except for it's kind of a simple storytelling device there foils to each other

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neither group is better than the other in fact you could say that the robbers in there and the

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mother the children's mothers are like equally bad as each other and the children are the ones

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who are different and who stand out from them and are in opposition to them it's really interesting

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because they love the families that they're from well Burke kind of actually seems like the book

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robbers aren't as nice as maths robbers are but we don't really get to see things from Burke's

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perspective it seems like Undis is really a harsh mother to live under and Burke himself doesn't

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seem so bad whereas like Matt seems like he's kind of the Undis he's pretty rough and and

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Lovis is pretty great but Ronia and Burke have this very innocent child friend relationship like

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they they don't like each other at first and Ronia threatens to punch him and throw him into

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Hell's Gap as soon as he falls in Hell's Gap spoilers she ends up saving him because he lands

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on a little ledge but she does save him and they just have this really like interesting back and

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forth a lot of bickering at first but then they become friends and then they start calling each

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other brother and sister and when they're found out that they have this secret relationship with

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each other where their brother and sister were they're so close to each other Undis kind of

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scolds Burke and she tells him that you know you call her sister now but in a year or two you'll

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be calling her something else and it's really interesting because there's these hints of this

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future romance between the two of them but the characters themselves are naive to it that being

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Ronia and Burke and the way that the narrative frames it there isn't a spark of romance you get

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to see insight into both of them because of the way she wrote it it's not like full-on internal

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monologue or like oh I think this I think that but it's you get into their their mindset and they

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really do love each other they really do value each other they care so much about each other and

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they really do see each other as brother and sister right now you can feel the love but it

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doesn't feel like it's not like oh I feel this weird tingling feeling towards my brother Burke

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it's like she describes you to see a description of how much Ronia values Burke and loves him and

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cares for him and it definitely feels like there will be a romance there the adults there's talk

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of potentially the two of them getting married one day and becoming robbers of their own I'll

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just leave it at that and which is something that they reject but they don't reject the idea that's

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presented that they'll you know get married one day but I think they really comment on that they

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more say like no we won't be robbers when we grow up but they don't say they won't be married I

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think that's how it goes pretty much so like maybe by the end of the book they're thinking about that

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but definitely not in the beginning of the book and there's definitely no there's nothing untoward

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that happens at one point they live together in the Bears cave which is something you'd have to

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read the book to know the full context of other than it's a cave that a bear lived in at one point

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and nothing inappropriate happens at all nothing even a hint of anything inappropriate happens at

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all because they're brother and sister effectively and I think that's really good that's the way

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things should be for this age group I would say and you know that's some of the virtuous that's

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one of the virtuous elements that's in this book so yeah like I mentioned before there's this thing

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going on where Burke and Rooney both want to reject being a robber and it's interesting they

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want to live a honest way of life and it's not it's better to them because they know and they

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hear stories told of how people cry and get mad and curse the robbers who take their things from

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them and the robbers think it's great they think it's hilarious they love it they you know they

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want people to cry harder and they're you know they're drinking their tears so to speak but the

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kids see hurting people and taking their things as a negative thing and they don't understand why

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you would do that and you get you Burke like you get that from him but when you really get

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her perspective and there's this whole conversation that she has with her father Matt and it's

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interesting because they they talk about that but like they don't judge their families they just say

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and they the reasons they run away are because of how the families are treating them not because

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the robbing that they're doing and you could say that's awful but I think it's just very real and

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very human what we grow up in is what we're used to and you know if you had to switch places with

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somebody you would probably not be able to bear what they have to bear and if they just switch

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places with you they wouldn't be able to bear what you have to bear and that's just kind of how it is

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we you know a fish doesn't know it's wet right fish doesn't know it's in water we're just used to

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what you have and that's all they've ever known so they based on that they're not rejecting their

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families because they're morally outraged they're just saying yeah I'm not going to do that so I

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think that's really cool it's interesting though because everything that Matt and Lovis give to

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Ronia as far as teaching and like encouraging her to be strong and fearless and competent you

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know by going out into the forest and stuff they're really equipping her and I think the love

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they've given her too has equipped her to be a person who is warm and open and accepting like

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she's not this way in spite of them she's this way because this is the way they are to her and

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she just wants to extend that to everybody else and they also teach her you know when she's out in

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the forest not to be afraid of anything and I think that for them they went a little too far

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because her not being afraid eventually like she practices doing things that she's afraid of until

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she's not afraid of them anymore she conquers her fear as a matter of habit as a matter of

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practice and she feared and hated Burke at first and then eventually she came to befriend him and

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then eventually love him as a brother and you know who knows what happened beyond then or beyond

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that but I think that's really interesting because they kind of gave her the tools to repel against

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them so to speak and they did it unwittingly by teaching her to be strong and resilient and by

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giving her the kind of love that would make her a loving kind person so like I said love is important

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in here but I think some of the values that are stated in the book and not stated outright they're

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stated by action are love honesty openness and warmth valuing relationships over personal growth

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or in personal growth over material goods so y'all valuing relationships and personal growth over

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material goods I think that's definitely part of the story and again it's it's done more subtly

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it's stated more subtly but that's that's how it goes and like I said having you know by you know

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by Rhonia being brave she's able to go on her own path and do her own thing which is exactly what

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her parents were equipping her for and she just went a different path than they thought she would

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and I think that's pretty interesting and I'm surprised by that and it's good it's just interesting

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how it all worked out that like they're unwittingly equipping her to go in this direction you know

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contrary to them but she's not leaving them behind it's just she's choosing a different path so to

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speak or not so to speak but definitely definitely but we don't get to see that manifest fully in

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this book because it ends before they get much older so something I thought was that was really

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interesting in the way the book was presented the story was presented is that there's a lot of

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tension a lot of danger but before all that tension and danger starts the author basically

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makes you feel like Rhonia will be fine that she'll be okay it isn't the kind of book where

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kids gonna die and yet in the times where there is this high tension you really feel the danger

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and the stakes because it's been so long that nothing has happened maybe it's been so long

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since you were given those assurances and the characters continue to speak about the dangers

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of the forest and you have like some robbers get injured they get captured by the sheriff's men and

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things like that they get injured fighting each other a little bit so like definitely definitely

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you know real consequences are happening to people in this book and it doesn't seem logical

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that the kids would be spared that and they get like minor injuries but definitely the way things

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are presented you definitely feel danger they're in a few life-threatening situations and you

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definitely feel like they might not they may not make it even though you're pretty sure they will

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and it's really good because again you have that safety and that comfort and that kind of feeling

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of coziness that you know everything's gonna be okay but they still get to go through these

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trials which makes the book exciting and interesting so I think this book definitely will resonate with

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younger readers and I think it will have positive effects on them Rhonia and Burke are really good

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I don't want to say role models but like they're definitely not somebody I wouldn't want my kids I

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wouldn't want my kids not imitating them you know I'm saying like they have very good traits and

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very good qualities that are admirable and I think you know kids reading these books and then

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wanting to become a little bit more adventurous and wanting to exhibit some of their other you

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know positive traits that are less you know actiony and heroic but more like good and loving and warm

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you know that's that's perfect I think the book would have been better if the themes had been

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explored better or stated more clearly and I just don't know how else Lindgren could have gone about

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that but just I don't know it just I'm saying all these positive things about it but I just don't

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think it's quite fortress fiction material like it's not gonna build those things up in the way

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I'd want it to I don't know maybe it's a very feminine book and I'm coming from a very masculine

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perspective and I'm not seeing it as something that I think is really valuable in that way however

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I do like the Oz books so much and they're written by man but their characters are mostly

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female mostly girls little girls and they're young girls I should say and I feel the opposite

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about them I think they're fantastic so that's kind of interesting if you didn't know this this

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book has been adapted fairly faithfully by Studio Ghibli they did a like a 3d modeled animated show

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it's like 26 episodes long the books I don't know not 20 chapters I don't think which is interesting

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so it's a really good show it's a really faithful to everything I felt like I'd already read the

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book by the time I'd read it because I watched the show so much with my kids and it's pretty

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great let me see yeah so it's interesting that the book has it's from the from 1981 in you know

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the you don't know this the adaptation was made within the last 10 years within you know around

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2010 for sure but I think a little like the mid 2010s and it's interesting that it was adapted

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in Japan but then again there's a lot of different things that have been adapted into animation like

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Swiss family Robinson little women Emma Jane Austen's Emma lots of different things so anyway

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yeah getting back to the book I want to give you my final thoughts so the book is constantly

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written this is Ronial Robertson are completely written it has strong positive elements memorable

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characters and setting there's a potential for deeper thematic exploration which I guess a kid

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could do on their own after reading this or an adult but I really wish there was more in the

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book there and I think it's a valuable addition to literature children's literature even if not

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fully meeting the fortress fiction criteria and that's about all I have to say about the book

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Astrid Lindgren Lindgren Lindgren sorry Astrid Lindgren is the author of a lot of other books

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you can find them all on her website Astrid Lindgren calm should be linked in the show notes

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she's the author of the Pippi Longstocking series a mill of Lundberger Carlson on the roof six

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Bullerby children and then those are I think all series with multiple characters in them and then

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there's me oh my son which is a standalone book and then the brothers Lionheart which again I

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haven't read these books but these are some of her other books that you can check out if you

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liked what you heard about her work from from this episode so anyway thank you very much the

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next book I'm gonna be talking about I don't remember what it is so stay tuned I'll let you

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know what it is it'll come out about a week from now oh no I remember it's and of green gables I

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don't remember the author's name but the next book I'll be talking about on fortress fiction is

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and of green gables the audiobook is about seven hours long you can get it for free on LibriVox

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you can get it for free on audible if you have I like the mid-tier or I don't know what year I

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have I have like the one credit a month here and I have a credit for it to know I get it for free

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in my library it's included in my library you can get it on Kobo other places you can get it I'm

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not sure check your libraries for free audiobook versions too or you can just get the book if you

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want to there's a whole like it feels like nine books in the and bring cable series or and of

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they call it something else anyway the and series so yeah that's what I'm gonna be reading next and

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anyway I look forward to hearing your thoughts on any of the books I'm writing or talking about and

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I look here look forward to hearing your thoughts on the books that I'm writing as well because I'm

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hearing publication on my first middle grade novel the pitch is that it's magical bugs battling

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monsters and yeah I'm aiming to make it part of the fortress fiction from from go so anyway that's

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all I have to say for now I thank you for your time and attention and until next time be well be

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good and keep reading I hope you enjoyed that go to MJMunoz.com to leave any questions comments

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or other feedback you might have there you can find all of my analysis art and fiction I cover

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books tokusatsu comic books anime and more look around you're sure to find something else that

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you'll enjoy as well this has been a story over everything production you

