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This is MJ. I'm an author. I'm an artist. I'm an analyzer. You can find all my work at MJMunoz.com

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Welcome to skimming leaves. This is going to be episode 42 of

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story over everything if I've done my job properly, which hopefully I did and

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It's going to be on Harry Potter and the prisoner of Azkaban

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Which is book three in the Harry Potter series and I listened back to my notes that I recorded on this

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I don't know a month or two ago

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And I just dropped right into it. So

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Because of that partly and because it's the habit I formed for doing these

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I'm gonna go ahead and do a quick introduction to the book

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Kind of fun fact type thing and then I will let myself transition into the actual like almost gut reaction

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Presentation of my thoughts on the book as a whole

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That follows so

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Anyway, so here we go

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Let's see Harry Potter and the prisoner of Azkaban was first published in the United States

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September 8 1999 by Scholastic. Hmm interesting. The book has

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107,000 words according to one source and 117,000 plus words according to another source, which is very strange to me

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Supposedly the average reading time is four hours and 47 minutes. I'm assuming that's a person reading to

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themselves and

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the audiobook version is

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Almost 12 hours long which stands over and that's I think that's based on the the Jim Dale audiobook

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I don't have the number in front of me. But yeah, so

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Those are just kind of very basic

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It's a very basic set of information about the book and while I did read this book and I will

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Obviously I read the book or those of me talking about it

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Well, I read the book and I hope you have read it too. If you haven't I would like to interest you in reading

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The book a little bit by sharing a couple things with you about it. First of all

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I don't have nostalgia for Harry Potter the Harry Potter series of books or movies actually because I didn't watch all the movies and I

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Only read the first two books as a kid. So there's really no nostalgia there for me

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however, as a grown man as a consumer of stories as somebody who

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As an aspiring writer wanted to get literary and therefore I

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consumed quickly the Hobbit

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the Lord of the Rings trilogy

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The Simarillion the Chronicles of Narnia, which are actually very very very well written books

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And some other stuff like a concerted effort of hey

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I want to read these things and understand from them and learn, you know, basically graft new graph

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I want to read these things and absorb craft stuff from them for writing my own books

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I want to write in the quality level of these books. I would argue that Rowling has done that that she

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These books are all competently made. I've read the entire series and it's very good

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I don't have like a personal like a super strong emotional attachment to it like oh, these are my characters

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I'm ride or die for these guys or whatever, but I do like them and I do like the story she tells it's a little odd

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Like there's some odd choices in some places, but for the most part it's you know

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it takes in here the book series took me on a ride that I did not expect and didn't really predict and I think

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Maybe this book is where things start becoming a little more

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or less predictable rather and more interesting and far more nuanced than I would have ever expected and

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I don't know. It just like really expands the world, which is something I do talk about in the

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In the following audio segment, so I won't belabor it now. I'll just share some things with you about it

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So yeah as a person who?

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Thought you know people who love Harry Potter were a little silly and then finally read the series for myself

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I understand you know what everybody is crazy about and understand how good of a series it is

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and I really am impressed by it and

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Like I said, I think you know definitely

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This book is really good. It's as could been

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Like it quickly become became one of my favorites, which I hope I don't say later, but I'm saying it now anyway

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Just a couple more things about it real quick

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I'm going to try to be a spoiler free as possible. That was all broad and generic stuff

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But there's some specifics. I'm going to skirt around in this information. I pulled up real quick looking up online so

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According to this little thing that I found. Let's see

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Okay, apparently this book sold 65 million copies

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Worldwide which is very cool. Very cool for running

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No wonder anyway, so

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Do I want to talk about that? No, I don't

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There's a crazy

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Powerful aspect of magic that is introduced in this book that you can't get in a book

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But it's a little bit of a mystery

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There's a crazy powerful aspect of magic that is introduced in this book that did not

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I did not see coming at all and apparently Rowling regrets it. So see if you can figure out what that one is

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Oh, this is really cool though and I can talk about it

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There's a the patronage charm is introduced in this book, which I'll just read it

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It's a powerful defensive spell that conjures a silver animal guardian

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The shape of the patronage reflects the personality and qualities of the caster

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Which is really cool and apparently a patronus can change over time

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It's almost like she made magical Pokemon

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Except they're just animals

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Yeah, but that's still a really cool idea

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The book reveals the identity of the mysterious prisoner of Azkaban who's in the title, which you should expect perhaps

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And the whole drama of the prisoner of Azkaban and what he did and didn't do

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Is super interesting and I think you'll find it super compelling

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It's a super powerful spell

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I think it's a very powerful spell

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It's a very powerful spell

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It's a very powerful spell

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The book also features several new characters such as

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Professor Remus Lupin, the defense against the dark arts teacher

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Professor Sybil Trelawney, the divination teacher and a seer or prophet type lady

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And the Dementors, the soul-sucking guards of Azkaban who induce fear and despair in anyone who comes near them

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And I don't remember if Rowling introduced the Dementors by name in book two or not

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But I think she did in book three, which is something really fun I think that she does

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The book supposedly contains many references and allusions to other works of literature and mythology

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Such as the grim fairy tales, the Arthurian legends, the Norse myths and the works of Shakespeare, Dickens and Wild

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For example the name... I can't name that person

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But somebody in David Copperfield shares the name with somebody here

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Yeah, there's a couple characters who have names linked to Roman mythology which is a huge spoiler

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And then Sybil Trelawney, the divination teacher, her name is derived from Sybil, a prophetess in Greek mythology

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Or Greek and Roman mythology actually

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Which is really cool

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So anyway, those are just some fun facts about the book before I go ahead and talk about it

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And like I said, these were spoiler free as best as they could be

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And then I'm going to get into the full spoiler talk

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So again, I highly recommend the book, I think it's cool

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You should definitely read the whole series

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If you have Cloud Library or Hoopla, if you have access to those you can get the audiobooks for free

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Or you can get them, actually I think all of the Harry Potter series is on Kindle Unlimited right now

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For you to read with your eyes

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I'm an audiobook person though so getting them on Cloud Library and such for free was really awesome

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Or you can just buy the books outright because they're good stuff

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Audible collection, if you're an audible person, depending on the length of the books, you can get one a month

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And very happily, very comfortably listen to the entire series

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Which is, I don't know, seven times, I'm going to guess

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It's like 70 or 80 hours of entertainment

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Which, depending on how long it takes you to consume your audio, that could take a week

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No, not a week

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That could take a couple of weeks or a couple of months to enjoy

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So anyway, I highly recommend it

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And now I recommend that you listen to the rest of this episode

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So I'm picking up on a pattern that Rowling is doing

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And honestly, sneak peek, I already started Goblet of Fire, which is book four of the Harry Potter series

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So in Prisoner of Azkaban, I see that she does a recap

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Just like in the beginning of Chamber of Secrets, she did a bit of a recap

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Introducing people who are new to the series to the story so far, essentially

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And I think it's done in a fairly naturalistic way

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I don't remember how it was done in the Prisoner of Azkaban

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But except for like, perhaps Sirius Black appearing on the Muggle News

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And that, you know, from the narrator, warranted comments about how he was actually a wizard

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And he'd been accused of this, and it was this many years ago

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And involved Harry's parents and Harry and Harry's the wizard, Voldemort, you know

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Basically, it does a really neat recap

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I think the Goblet of Fire recap is even better and smoother

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Which is interesting, but I'll talk about that more when I discuss Goblet of Fire

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I found it interesting that, I guess, kind of spoilers for the Prisoner of Azkaban

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It's kind of a weird, offbeat book

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So this is my third Harry Potter book

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And I like it the best so far

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The last, I don't know, couple chapters or so did something very interesting that I didn't expect

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It made sense and I think it's a good book

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And it almost made it seem like it was a...

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It's not a heist movie, or book, but it almost made it feel kind of like a heist book

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Where there was a heist-stake sneaking and stealth and we have to plan things just so

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Kind of aspect to it that was pretty interesting

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And, I mean, in the grand scheme of things, the way that played out specifically wasn't as exciting as it could have been

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Hold on, hold on, it wasn't as exciting as it could have been

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The stakes were high, but again, I'm trying to avoid spoilers in these casual book chats

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But it could have been higher, it could have been a lot worse

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And it just almost seemed more like, oh, this is kind of lovely

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It's kind of lovely getting to see this plan come together and see these threads pulled together

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And see these really open loops closed that had been shown to us throughout the book

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Throughout the story, so that was pretty interesting

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I like how extreme Harry gets tonight, I guess a minor spoiler

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I would say Voldemort doesn't really show up in this book specifically

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Which I was under the impression that he was in every single book

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I kind of feel like he's going to be in every book after this as a major player

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And I think it gets worse

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Which, anyway, that comment, I will not explain that comment right now

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But anyway, I thought it was really interesting that he wasn't really in it

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And I kept kind of waiting for him to show up

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And in an interesting way, it almost seemed like the threat

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Like, so there's these things called Dementors, which are these Azkaban prison guards

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And the reason the book is called The Prisoner of Azkaban, one of many

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Is that a prisoner has escaped from Azkaban, that's Sirius Black

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Well, that's Sirius Black and he's a serious problem

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And it's interesting how evil and wicked the Dementors are

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And what it is that they're supposed to do

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It's, I like, morally repugnant

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And it's shocking that that would be something in the world of Harry Potter

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Like, there's the defense against the Dark Arts

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They expose the Hogwarts students to some of the Dark Arts stuff

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That's because it's an ugly reality that the Wizarding World isn't just, you know, refilling

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It's not just every flavored beans and plates of sandwiches that magically refill themselves

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It's this dark side, there's werewolves, there's vampires

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There's, I mean, for crying out loud

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We saw somebody feasting on the corpse drinking the blood of a unicorn in one of these books

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So, I mean, there are dark and evil things and there is real legitimate danger

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And that's kind of all offset by the fact that you have this very positive, very happy, very

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Wonderful and fantastical world that Harry gets to live in

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It's kind of even more interesting because the... excuse me

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The Muggle World, the world where Harry starts off each book living with the Dursleys

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Is in some ways worse than the Wizarding World that has all these dangers

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And it's alarming, it's shocking to me that that could be the case

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And I think that goes to... I think that's a credit to Rowling

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And how awful she's able to make the Dursleys

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And the thing is, they're not...

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They're not as evil as they could be

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It's not the Manson family, but it is...

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Or and, perhaps not but, it is a remarkably realistic depiction of what an abuse of home life

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Would look like for a kid in Harry's position

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And not only is that sort of family dynamic all too real, it's all too common I would say

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I'm not going to pull statistics to talk about how many abusive homes there are

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And I'm not going to say there's an epidemic of child abuse in this country or any other

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But it's a fact of life that children are abused and ill-treated by their own families

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And when I say that I mean their own nuclear families, their mother, their father, their siblings

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But also by secondary or tertiary relatives as well who you would call...

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Or who you might call extended family

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And I've heard of different countries, Haiti, India, for example

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That they will... Like if a parent dies and a child or children are orphaned

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They are taken in... I've actually heard this from somebody in the Philippines as well I believe

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That they will be taken in to live with one of their relatives

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But they will basically become like a servant to the relatives

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And the severity of that and how awful that is for the person

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Believe it or not, because we live in a world of nuance and...

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I don't know, uniqueness or singularity... Not singularity, that's the wrong word I'm looking for

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We live in a world of nuance, it depends, it varies family to family

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It varies culture to culture, some cultures are tolerable or tolerate things that are more severe than others

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And certain families within those distinct cultures have their own micro-cultures

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Which tolerate more or less abusive and terrible behavior

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But I was shocked at the end of the book

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And it's funny because it kind of gets book-end-end

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But when it's book-end-ed at the end of the book

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It's a much happier thing and you feel, or I felt more positive about it

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Anyway, I felt in a lot of ways like Harry's life with the Dursleys in the Muggle world is worse

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Than what he experiences at Hogwarts

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And I can't quite tell how long the term is he gets out

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Well, I don't know when he goes back, but it's sometime in the summer

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He goes back to the Dursleys and then September 1st is when term starts at Hogwarts

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So, I live in the US, I feel like that's only like a two-month break maybe they get mad

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Maybe three at the most

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So it's good for him that it's a boarding school and he gets to get away from the Dursleys for so much of the year

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But regardless, and honestly that kind of makes it feel weird that you end the book at the end of the term essentially

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And then the next book starts off in the middle of the summer or a couple weeks before he goes back to Hogwarts

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It almost feels like it's not enough of a break

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But then again, the highlights that are covered that make up the plot of the books

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That's structured in such a way that you're not, you're skipping over most of the year

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So it's really like he has these terrible breaks that he has to go back to the Dursleys

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Anyway, as much as I am struggling to place Harry Potter strictly in a genre

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It's more or less fantasy and I don't want to ruin all the cool fantasy stuff by dwelling on how horrible the Dursleys are

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And the very real facts of child abuse all over the world

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So I will swerve away from those and I will again try to be mostly spoiler free because this is a casual book chat

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And maybe I'll just go into like a thing and I've already spoiled the fact that Voldemort's basically not in this book at all

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So what will I talk about?

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I'll talk about the fact that it's funny that Hermione and Ron and Harry are all skeptical of their divination teacher

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And divination I guess would be divining the future, trying to use tea leaves and crystal balls and things like that to find the future

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And they have this teacher who predicts that Harry is going to die and she's very serious about it, it's very dire

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And it kind of freaks him out in the beginning but then as time goes on they just believe in this woman less and less and less

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And it's really funny to see how that develops and it turns into a complete gag

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I mean it's not an ill formed gag, it's a very well constructed gag

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And basically the one time she has an actual accurate vision of the future

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You're not entirely sure that she's in control of herself, which is kind of funny

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And maybe that's the appearance of Voldemort, who knows

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So I thought that was pretty interesting

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I was thinking about this book and I was thinking I actually like Snape, he's actually an interesting character, he's kind of cool

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I kind of like the things that he's doing, he seemed very friendly with one of the professors, Professor Lupin

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Who's the new Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher, which is the best Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher we've seen in these three books

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Because Quirrell and Lockhart were not good

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And I mean that on multiple levels, and then now this guy Lupin is good, he's really excellent and he was a lot of fun

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Sometimes Rowling's naming conventions bother me because it feels like that's too obvious

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And it was funny, I was telling my daughter about some of the thoughts I have because she's reading through these at the same time pretty much

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And I think she was snickering when she didn't see because I was predicting some things

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Because I've seen this movie years ago, probably when it first came out or so

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And then I said based on my knowledge of books and whatever, these are my guesses for what's going on

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And I was like semi right on some things, but just my memory was foggy and then my prediction was off

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But it was still fun to speculate, and I was able to speculate based on the names

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Which, like I was thinking then again about what is Snape's name, and he's part of House Slytherin

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And his name is Snape, and Snape rhymes with snake, it just has one letter, a K to a P

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And Cerberus, he's a severe snake man, and he's a severe teacher who is from House Slytherin, favors House Slytherin

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And all that stuff, so that might be the extent of his name, but I was honestly really, I basically turned against him

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At like the 60% point, somewhere about three quarters or less through the book

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I basically turned around and I thought I do not like this man, and I was never disappointed with his severity

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Although maybe that was mostly from him being played in the movies by, I can't remember the name of the gentleman who played him

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But he died a couple years ago, and I really enjoyed him in that role, almost as much as I enjoyed him as Hans Gruber in Die Hard

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But we're not going to talk about Die Hard, so anyway, I just thought it was really interesting

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How I was feeling so positive, and I even told her when I was a quarter or third, maybe half way through the book

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I really like Snape, it's funny, but he seems like an okay, he's helping Lupin, he's trying to be responsible

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He's trying to do the right thing, even he gets the chance to play the hero in this book

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And from his perspective, he really is being heroic, but the prime motivator that causes him to dislike Harry

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And mistrust people in certain ways, and just this incident that happened to him while he was a student at Hogwarts

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It really changed my perspective on him and made me think, this guy's kind of a...

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The kindest, most respectful thing I can say is that I'm very disappointed that what happened affected him in such a way

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And I'm surprised that it seems like he has such a fussy or finicky personality

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And that's the real motivator of why he is the way he is, or at least that's what Rowling has revealed at this point in the book series

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And the story overall, and it's surprising and disappointing, I really don't like it

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He seemed cool to me before that big revelation

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Things not always being what they seem, I think might be, if it's not a theme, or if it's not the theme

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It's a theme or a thematic element in this particular book, so I don't...

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I kind of know some stuff about the rest of the Harry Potter story, and I think that might be related

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Or like some setup is being done for that, perhaps? I'm not 100% sure

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But it's interesting that, I don't know, that could be what it's about, it might not be what it's about

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Which is a very silly statement to make, it's not profound at all

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But this is a casual book, yeah, so I don't really feel the pressure to perform and give you amazing insights

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A quick addendum before I let myself officially finish the episode

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One of the things that I found remarkable about this book, and it really hit me somewhere in the beginning

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Probably right before Harry went off to Hogwarts, which is something I mentioned in the beginning of this casual book chat

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Because I talked about how it's kind of book-ended by, you feel one way about Harry and his situation with the Dursleys

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And then by the end of it you feel kind of the same way, but there's some optimism

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And it comes down to, I think, this interesting element which is shared with Spider-Man, of all things

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The Spider-Man comics, well, yeah, the Spider-Man comics, I'm not going to say the movies except for maybe the Rami McGuire movies

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But there is a sense that despite...

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In spite of everything that Harry has in the Wizarding World, in spite of all his power and the prestige and the fame of being the boy who lived

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He's still just a boy to the Dursleys, and none of his magic, none of the magic in his life

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That he experiences at Hogwarts or with the Weasleys or anywhere else

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Really matters when it comes to his life with the Dursleys or at the Dursleys

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He's just Harry

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That's all he is in the Muggle world, for now at least

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And none of the great power and the accomplishments help him to overcome or rise above what he faces

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I don't know if I would call Harry a role model or if he's just somebody that a young reader can identify with

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Really any reader can identify with, as I mentioned previously

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But I really think it's special and wonderful that he faces these challenges

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And when it comes down to it, when it comes down to dealing with the Dursleys

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He and you and I have the same recourse

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We can kind of exhibit long-suffering, we can bear with the situation

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Keep a stiff upper lip if you want to be British about it

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Or we can break down and have a tantrum or freak out or give in to our baser instincts

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And really sink to the level of these people who are challenging us in these particular ways

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And I think it presents a really interesting moral choice and question

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But also it just makes him so much more relatable

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And I think it adds a lot of sympathy to his character arc, to his struggles, and to his story

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And I think that's really special, I think there's a magic in that, so to speak

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Which is that despite all the fantastical elements, the mundane down-to-earth things still matter

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And they still hurt

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It's almost like an affirmation that, you know what, yeah, you're special, people care about you

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You have, you know, whatever you have in your life that's good or sets you apart is great

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But at the end of the day, you're still a person and you can still be hurt by others

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And there's a comfort in that, I think there's a comfort in that

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It's very human and it's very humane and very, I don't know

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I just think there's a comfort in saying, you know, this too shall pass but this too shall endure

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And if you're going to live life you're going to suffer

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But you don't have to be miserable about it, to some extent

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I think that's part of what's being said here, and I like it, I just find it really endearing

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