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Welcome to the Album Nerds podcast with your hosts Andy, Don and Dude.

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We're back baby, back from the past and we've got some stuff to share with you.

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It's the Album Nerds podcast.

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I'm Dude.

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I got Andy and Don with me.

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Special edition.

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How you guys doing?

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Oh yeah, doing good man.

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Glad to be back here in the past with you.

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It seems like just yesterday.

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Four or five minutes ago.

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Dude is a scrub.

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That did not sound anything like it.

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No.

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Don needs a haircut.

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Andy needs a haircut.

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All right.

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So, uh, can you keep a secret?

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Yes.

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It's called a teaser track five album we're talking about.

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Anyway, so we're the Album Nerds.

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We talk about albums.

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Sometimes we even go back and talk about an album again.

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See what we said before and see what we maybe think now.

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Today on the show, we're going to do just that.

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And then at the end, we're going to spin the wheel of musical destiny to find out what

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kind of albums we'll talk about on the next one.

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Getting back to the regular format.

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But this week we're going back in time.

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Are you telling me that you built a time machine?

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Oh man.

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Oh man.

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Get the jewelry and warmed up there, buddy.

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All the way back to August of 2022.

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Okay.

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Well, since, since August, we've changed our process for nominating records to the Album

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Nerds Hall of Fame.

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So unfortunately, this record came before the process of nominating records became so

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easy.

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So we're going to go back to episode 163 where we discussed De La Soul's Three Feet High

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and Rising.

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So why don't we jump into what we said and then we'll see what we think now.

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Hey all you kids out there.

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Welcome to Three Feet High and Rising.

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Now here's what we do.

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I am jumping in with De La Soul, Three Feet High and Rising from March of 1989.

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I would call this sort of, I don't know if you guys agree, hip hop soul, maybe progressive

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hip hop.

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Progressive hip hop.

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You could sell me on that.

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Prog hop.

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Prog hop.

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There you go.

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Do the prog hop.

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Hey, I'm sorry to interrupt here, but did either of you guys come up with a dance for

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the prog hop?

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I've been working on it, but I just can't get it.

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You know, kind of like a combination of a frog and a bunny rabbit jumping.

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I picture what my dog does when he has digestive issues.

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Is that the scrub, like rubbing his butt?

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I'm always tough for that.

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Just don't do the prog hop.

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Back to the show.

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Definitely is different alternative to what was going on in the hip hop scene at the time.

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So let's jump in to the magic number.

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That's the opening track and it's kind of describing the three main members of the group

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and how the magic number comes from their existence together.

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So that would be Poseness.

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I'm not sure how to say that.

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Plug one.

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Trugoi.

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The Dove.

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Plug two.

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And Masio or Mace.

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So those plugs were from the board they were using and they each had a mic plug.

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So they nicknamed each other plug one, plug two, and plug three.

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Now it all makes sense.

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So my three words to describe this album, progressive hip hop, collage, not college,

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collage because of so much sampling.

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So many songs have like eight or nine things sampled together to make one beat.

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It's incredible the work that they did here.

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Produced by De La Soul and Prince Paul.

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Fellas, thoughts?

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Listened to this before.

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Super familiar, slightly familiar.

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What's the deal?

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My three words were De La Dandruff.

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What?

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Explain yourself, sir.

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Well I love this record.

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I have it on vinyl.

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I listen to it a lot over the last 20 years or so.

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I kept getting caught up on the skits though, man.

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I don't know if the skits, I don't know if I love the skits as much as I used to, but

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I think the meat of the record is awesome.

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And there's a lot of hip hop classics or just standout tracks on here that like Magic Number

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that you played that still sound awesome.

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Really just hard to match in this era in hip hop.

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Donald?

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So the three words I chose are from Don Soul.

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I guess I'm overstating it a bit, but I mean, I think this is a hip hop record that I really

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can connect with.

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And I appreciate other stuff we've listened to on this show like Wu Tang and Run DMC.

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But all that stuff is just like so aggressive.

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They're singing about how great they are at rhyming, how great they are at sex, at fighting,

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at everything.

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And this, I don't know, this is about other stuff.

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It feels somewhat intellectual, but at the same time silly.

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I don't know.

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And it just has maybe a more chill vibe that appeals to my sensibilities.

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And I also, I just appreciate the innovative use of sampling.

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Like a lot of hip hop records, the reason they're good is just because they're sampling

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a hook that was good before.

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And they don't do that here.

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I mean, they sample things that I recognize, but they don't exploit it.

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They really find a new use for it.

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So yeah, I mean, this is quite an album.

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Was it 24 tracks?

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Lots of short songs, skits, the sort of theme of a game show theme throughout with some

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goofy jokes and stuff.

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The Magic Number, obviously multiplication rock from Schoolhouse Rock.

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That's the main sampling.

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I guess they also use Double D and Steinskies Lesson 3 for the drums.

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So some record with drum lessons on it.

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As I mentioned, it's a bond of the three of them together.

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Why don't we jump into another song that really goes for it with the samples?

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It's called Say No Go.

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And it includes samples from Hollanote, Slystone, the Detroit Emeralds, The Emotions, Funky

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4 Plus 1, The Turtles, and Walter Schumann with some of the dragnet theme from the TV

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show.

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So here we go.

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I can't fit all that in one clip, so I had to say all of it.

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Let's check it out.

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So that song is a cautionary tale about the use of drugs.

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Particularly, particularly bass or crack cocaine that was an epidemic in urban communities

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at that time.

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What'd you guys think of that one?

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I mean, you can't go wrong with Hollanote.

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I know Andy's a huge fan.

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I think, you know, I mean, it's a cool take on the slogan that I think Nancy Reagan had

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come up with, right?

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It was like say no and go.

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And I think they even mentioned Nancy in the lyrics.

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So yeah, I mean, it's cool.

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And I mean, I think often anti-drug songs are kind of lame, but this, you know, I think

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they do this well.

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Yeah, they're pretty sneaky about getting some positive messages into this record without

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having it sound like a PSA or something or Nancy Reagan just, you know, talking about

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shit she doesn't know about.

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They're good.

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I mean, it's interesting to me, like how this, reading back about this record, you know,

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it was really viewed as like, you know, this could be like the new era in hip hop, this

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positivity and kind of goofy persona and not so self-serious.

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And there were groups in this period, you know, like Trap Gal Quest and others who were

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in that vein, but it never really took off from here.

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I know.

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I know.

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Yeah, it went in a different direction, a little bit more raw truth instead of, you

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know, creatively described things.

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It was, we get, people get killed every day type stuff in the hip hop that became popular

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shortly after this and kind of then drove where hip hop went in the mainstream anyway.

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Why don't we listen to a little bit of the song that I remember the most impacting me

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at the time was Potholes in My Lawn.

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Not a lot of yodeling in hip hop.

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They did it well.

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Yeah, corner on that market, I think.

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That one again had a bunch of weird samples and from the Magic Mountain by Eric Burden

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and Moore, yodeling and jaw harp from Parliament's little country boy, the mouth harp parts,

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those boing things, just like it was playful all the way through.

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I want to talk about the samples a little bit.

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I mean, it's a big part of the record, obviously, and it's a lot of the personality of the record,

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but unfortunately it's not available to stream anywhere.

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It's not accessible.

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Probably, I'm guessing because of those samples.

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Yeah, that was frustrating.

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Yeah, they've gone back and forth.

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They keep making announcements that it's coming.

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I guess a few years ago, like on their 30th anniversary, they put all of their albums

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for free download on their website.

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Oh, cool.

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That's not available anymore, unfortunately, but eventually they'll have to figure it out

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for the streaming because the youths need to hear this stuff.

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It's such a big part of hip hop history.

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It's a shame not to have it widely available.

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I want the youngins to hear it so that maybe this can influence hip hop moving forward

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because I really think we need a little bit of this ingenuity and creativity in our hip

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hop.

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Agreed.

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Don, you got anything else?

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What's up with that De La Orge track or whatever it was?

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Yeah, that's one of the moments that occasionally, I think they're just goofing around making

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sex sounds.

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I think they said it was De La Orge on the track.

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They were having fun.

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I don't think it was really recordings of actual intercourse or outer course.

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It did sound like they were having a good time making this.

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I mean, all the game show sketches are just like so goofy.

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It's almost like a little cringy to listen to, but it is still like just really goofball

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humor.

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I don't know how to describe it.

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So I think because I just, the humor of the game show skits, I think hit with me just

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because I knew it was supposed to be funny.

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I wonder how many kids were sending their entries into that address in New York City

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that they give at the end of the record.

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I've got the proof of purchases in the CD that I have, so I should send those in.

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Yeah, just see if it's still valid, man.

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I know we got to get going here, but Cool Breeze on the Rocks used all these samples.

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It's not a full song.

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It's just tons of samples of rock being said from Run DMC, Michael Jackson.

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I mean, there's just rock, rock, rock with you.

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Just tons of it.

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It's just fun to listen to.

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Ghetto thing kind of gets into the nitten grit of what's going on out there.

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I know, and of course, me, myself and I have the big hit off of it, but there's so many

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tracks.

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It's hard to get to all of it in this show.

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We would need a couple of hours.

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So please, if you have any inkling for some fun, insightful, meaningful, but not hip hop

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all at the same time, go check out De La Soul, 3P High and Rising.

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So some time has gone by.

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I've listened to this album a bunch of times since.

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It also has been released on the streaming services, so please do go check it out, everyone.

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It's easy to get to now.

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There's some subtle differences between it and the original version.

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Apparently they got the rights for a lot of the samples because the rules have changed.

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So they had to get a bunch of clearances for samples.

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They restarted the talks in January of 2022 and it finally came out and they had to replay

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some samples that couldn't be cleared or they had to make music that sounded like it in

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order to get it out there.

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But it is available and it's still just awesome.

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Listen, where do you guys stand on this now?

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Yeah, I mean, I still think it's pretty good.

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It's changed a whole lot.

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It's great to have their music available on streaming.

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I second that.

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That's so huge.

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I feel like they were kind of being overlooked, but just kind of ghosted there for a while.

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It's nice to have them kind of part of the conversation again.

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I think what struck me most, as I commented originally, that this type of joyous hip hop

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or light hearted hip hop, I guess, kind of died out after this little era in the mid

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or mid late 80s here.

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I think there's still some underground stuff that really pulls from the spirit of what

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they were doing back then.

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So I don't think it's that completely.

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to it and hip hop.

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It's not the usual, but I do think it does exist and probably a large part to what they

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were doing back then.

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Should we pour one out for Trugoy the Dove?

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Yeah, I was going to mention that.

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Was that just this past March?

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Yeah, February or March.

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It passed away?

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Yeah, so I got to say, I am relieved to have it streaming now because the first time around,

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I think I was listening to a YouTube video or something and the audio quality was not

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the best.

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Now I'm listening to it on Tidal and they have it as the 360 master super duper quality

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or whatever and it does sound fantastic.

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And I don't notice any of the differences with the sampling.

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Maybe at some point I'll geek out and try to start identifying those.

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But yeah, I'm still very happy with this record.

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So I do have a friend who's kind of, I think this is really his area, that native tongues

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era with like a tribe called Quest, that hip hop from the late 80s and early 90s.

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So his name is Saul.

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So whenever there's a hip hop question, I usually say, well, better call Saul.

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Hey guys, just chiming in on an all time hip hop classic De La Soul's Three Feet High

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and Rising.

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This album includes two very recognizable samples.

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Funkadelic's Knee Deep used on the song Me, Myself and I and the song Peg by Steely Dan

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used on the song I Know.

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De La Soul's album continues to be one of the greats of all time, lyrically, samples,

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beats, drums, everything.

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It has all the elements.

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And that's a thing that a lot of the people I've talked to that are hip hop connoisseurs

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or hip hop heads, the elements of hip hop are a big part of that conversation.

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That term is used quite a bit.

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So thank you, Saul.

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Yeah, and thinking about this, I would change my three words to album nerd hip hop because

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that's kind of what these guys are.

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They loved all sorts of different kinds of music and blended it all together, took their

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stacks of records, the stacks of their parents' records and found a way to turn it into something

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new that expressed who they are and told people it's okay in this world of in particular in

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hip hop, you had to be a certain way.

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And they said, be yourself, it's okay to wave your freak flag and just enjoy your life.

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And I think that's what they did here.

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So without further ado, I'm going to nominate this.

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That's what we're here for, album nerds.

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That's why we came.

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Now if one of you says no, this whole thing is a wash.

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Of course, it's also kind of boring for the audience to know what's coming, but obviously

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it's a huge yes for me.

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Yeah, I'm belated by the point.

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Definitely a shoe in.

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Sorry we didn't do it originally, but glad to get it in there now.

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Definitely yes.

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So would this be our second hip hop record in the Hall of Fame?

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I think we put Jurassic Five in.

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I think so.

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Pretty sure that's in there.

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I'm not sure if there's something else hip hop related.

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Yeah, we're going to have to endeavor to do better there because there's a lot of good

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stuff.

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If you need help people, albumnerds.com slash discord, go to the channel where there are

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topics that we can put onto the wheel.

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Give us some topics that are in that hip hop world.

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We'd really love to throw those on the wheel and see if destiny takes us there.

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All right, so we did it.

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We revisited, we made, you know, we righted a wrong and I feel good about that.

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Now we're back in 2023.

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So always remember there's great albums back there in the past.

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Go find them, revisit things you loved as a young person and see if they're Hall of

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Fame worthy in your hearts and minds.

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And that's one to grow on.

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I'm your density.

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I mean your destiny.

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All right, boys and girls, time once again to see what destiny has in store for us.

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Let's bring our friend Wildbot back out on the job here and see what we're going to talk

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about next week.

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In gentle waves of melody, yacht rock sails, a sun kissed voyage where smooth harmonies

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prevail.

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Your musical destiny will take your ears on a nautical journey through the soothing tones

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of yacht rock.

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Bon voyage.

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Yacht rock.

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Yacht rock.

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Yacht rock.

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So we're going in a whole different direction next time.

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Exploring albums of a genre that was made up long after the albums were released and

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popular yacht rock.

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What else should we go back and put in the album nerds Hall of Fame?

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Who's your favorite yacht rock artists?

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What else are you listening to?

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Let us know.

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Join fellow album nerds on discord at albumnerds.com slash discord.

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Follow us on Facebook and Instagram and album nerds and subscribe rate and review on your

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And if you like to support the show, you can do so via PayPal at albumnerds.com slash support.

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Thank you once again for joining us here on the album nerds podcast.

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Thanks for traveling through time with us.

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We'll catch you next time with some yacht rock y'all.

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Thanks for listening everybody.

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Catch you next time.

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See ya.

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Oh, we've also gone back in time to the terrible outros.

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Wouldn't want to be ya.

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Thanks for throwing that in.

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It's okay.

