1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:12,840 Welcome to the album nerds podcast with your hosts, Andy, Don and dude. 2 00:00:13,040 --> 00:00:15,080 Actually, it's the album haters podcast. 3 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,280 Cause we're doing a career realignment here. 4 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:19,520 Yeah. 5 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:20,560 From love to hate. 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:22,640 Redefine the whole thing. 7 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:24,240 I'm just kidding. 8 00:00:24,240 --> 00:00:25,720 This is the album nerds podcast. 9 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:26,520 I'm dude. 10 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:27,880 I got Andy and Don with me. 11 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:29,040 Andy, how you doing? 12 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:29,760 How's life? 13 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:30,600 Doing good, man. 14 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,040 You know, ready to turn over a new leaf. 15 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,800 It's a fresh day on the album nerds podcast. 16 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:36,480 Already? 17 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:38,680 The year just started. 18 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:39,840 You got to start over again. 19 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,280 Oh, you know, it's been a long year so far. 20 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:44,720 How you doing over there, Don? 21 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:46,560 Yeah, I'm really sick of Pink Floyd. 22 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:47,240 Yeah. 23 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:47,640 Wow. 24 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,240 Man, that would be nice. 25 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,080 You'd have to glom onto some other classic rock band. 26 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:54,880 Maybe Rush. 27 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,640 I think Rush would work for you. 28 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,360 So yeah, this is the album nerds podcast. 29 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,560 We love albums and the album format and talking about the damn things. 30 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,360 We have a great show for you today. 31 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:10,080 We're each going to be presenting a career redefining album. 32 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:11,720 We'll get into that in a bit. 33 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,840 Don's going to be asking us a deep question. 34 00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:18,880 We're going to have some shout outs to some other albums and album related 35 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:19,920 items that we're digging. 36 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,600 And then of course we'll spin that wheel of musical discovery to find out what 37 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,440 we'll be talking about next time. 38 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,360 This week, it's all about that career redefined. 39 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,760 That's what I'm talking about. 40 00:01:32,320 --> 00:01:36,360 Throughout music history, certain albums have emerged as pivotal moments that 41 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,800 redefined artists careers and sometimes entire genres. 42 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:44,240 These groundbreaking records often mark a significant shift in an artist's sound, 43 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:48,440 style, or public perception, propelling them to new heights of success or 44 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:49,600 artistic achievement. 45 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,600 Today, each of us will present an album that was career redefining. 46 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,160 So this happens, right? 47 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,280 Artists either change bands, change sounds, get sick of doing the same old 48 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:04,880 thing, maybe it just hasn't been working yet and they change things up or it's a 49 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:05,400 comeback. 50 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:10,680 So some kind of easy examples, John Fogerty's center field from 1985, after 51 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:15,440 all that fighting with a Creedence Clearwater revival and losing publishing 52 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:19,880 rights to his songs came out with a comeback album that did very well. 53 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:25,680 Radiohead's Kid A, which just pretty much blew everything up, changed what people 54 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:34,240 thought of as listenable alternative rock, you know, and Taylor Swift's 1989. 55 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:39,200 I think that was sort of solidified her transition to a full on pop artist. 56 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:40,040 Yeah. 57 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:45,360 So other than those kind of obvious high profile things, what other albums did you 58 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:50,040 guys think about before making your final choice? 59 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,160 Well, the one I almost went with, but we had talked about it in the past episode. 60 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:54,440 Yeah, I love this one. 61 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,480 Aerosmith's Permanent Vacation from 1987. 62 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,800 So it's kind of their return to form after a couple misses there during the 63 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,520 mid eighties for Mr. Aerosmith, Mr. Aerosmith. 64 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:07,680 That's my move. 65 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:07,920 Yeah. 66 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:09,320 Johnny, Johnny Smith. 67 00:03:09,640 --> 00:03:10,000 Yeah. 68 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:16,000 I just had like, dude looks like a lady on it, Angel, Ragdoll. 69 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,880 I mean, a lot of, a lot of big hits, but just a really solid, solid record and 70 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,840 saw them kind of rise to fame there in the, in the early nineties. 71 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,880 I got kind of reinvigorated. 72 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:26,080 How about you, Don? 73 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:26,760 What did you find? 74 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,720 One of the first one that popped in my head was, was Johnny Cash. 75 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:35,040 So in 1994, he did American Recordings. 76 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,000 It was called with Rick Rubin. 77 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,520 And this really was kind of career redefining for him. 78 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:45,240 I don't know if you ever listened to like his eighties output, it's very uneven 79 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,360 and it gets a bit hokey, you know, lots of like patriotic things in there and stuff 80 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:49,840 like that. 81 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:54,440 And I think Rick Rubin sort of brought him back to sort of that, that dark 82 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,120 character, that bad ass. 83 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:57,160 The man in black. 84 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:57,800 Yeah. 85 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:02,400 And so, I mean, the music was very stripped down, mostly just guitar and his voice. 86 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,160 And it was just really well done. 87 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,480 And he ended up doing a few more of those with Rick Rubin before he passed. 88 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:08,880 Yeah. 89 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,640 My first thoughts were to some live albums from the seventies. 90 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,480 And I know that kind of, is that an album? 91 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:15,920 Isn't it? 92 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:16,960 Is it the greatest hits? 93 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:17,520 Isn't it? 94 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:23,040 So I veered away, but Peter Frampton's, Frampton comes alive from 1976. 95 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:27,720 He had been in Humble Pie, a band for those who haven't heard of it from the seventies. 96 00:04:27,840 --> 00:04:32,440 And he had like three or four solo albums that just went nowhere and, but had, had 97 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:33,120 some following. 98 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:37,440 So he did this live recording as a double album and Show Me the Way, Baby, I Love Your 99 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,280 Way were two of the big hits off of it. 100 00:04:39,280 --> 00:04:45,440 But just the, the performances were so much more interesting than the recorded versions. 101 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:51,120 It took off and it completely redefined his career and gave him a huge spotlight for a 102 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:51,680 short time. 103 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:56,680 And then after that, all of the studio albums kind of went, well, but that's, that's not 104 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:57,400 what I went with. 105 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,880 Why don't we get into our actual choo choo choo choices. 106 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,320 You choo choo choose me? 107 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:10,080 All right. 108 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:15,840 For my career redefining album selection, we're talking about Beck and his 1996 album, 109 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:16,800 Odelay. 110 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:23,640 It's the fifth studio album for the experimental folk artist from Los Angeles, California, 111 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,960 born as Beck David Campbell. 112 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:31,320 Let's play a little bit from, this is the second single, the lead cut, Devil's Haircut. 113 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,800 Quick question guys, in your mind, what is a devil's haircut? 114 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:44,800 I'll go first. 115 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:45,520 Bull cut. 116 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:47,960 I was thinking the flock of seagulls guy. 117 00:05:49,280 --> 00:05:52,040 I was thinking like the Prodigy guy with the two big horns. 118 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,320 Yeah. 119 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,800 I think a bull cut is the devil's haircut. 120 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,880 He designed that to make people look terrible. 121 00:05:58,880 --> 00:05:59,640 Are you serious? 122 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:01,680 Like it was a curse. 123 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,080 You sold your soul for this. 124 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:06,440 All right. 125 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:12,640 So Odelay, it's a pretty stark shift in sound from Beck's previous album, Mellow Gold, 126 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,320 which had the hit Loser on it. 127 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,560 If you guys recall that song was kind of popular in college radio. 128 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,280 Get crazy with the cheese whiz. 129 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:19,640 Yeah. 130 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:19,920 Sure. 131 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:20,200 Yeah. 132 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:21,680 Cheese whiz. 133 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:22,080 Yes. 134 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:28,200 This album went much more of an avant-garde sort of direction and much more of a focus on hip hop. 135 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,680 Thanks in large part to production by the Dust Brothers. 136 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:32,280 Yeah. 137 00:06:32,280 --> 00:06:35,160 And it really served as a kind of a breakout point for him commercially. 138 00:06:35,280 --> 00:06:40,680 It became pretty popular on the radios and award shows for the next few years here. 139 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:47,680 My clickbait headline for Beck's Odelay is dystopian space poet Hanson is ready for primetime 140 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,800 after spending his time in the Dust Brothers boutique. 141 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:51,760 Yeah. 142 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:56,280 I mean, at the time I remember hearing these cuts on the radios or as the singles were being released. 143 00:06:56,280 --> 00:07:00,320 And I just felt exciting and kind of revolutionary to me as a young kid. 144 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,280 You know, I wasn't exposed to a whole lot of hip hop or electronic music at the time, 145 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:05,360 especially on the radio. 146 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:06,400 Wasn't that prevalent? 147 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:11,600 And this was really mixing that with, you know, rock alternative sound that I was familiar with. 148 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:16,480 And yeah, I did have kind of like a goofy personality too, or it is just kind of weird and strange. 149 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,600 But as a kid, I thought this was great. 150 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,240 And coming back to it, I was really surprised how well it hold up. 151 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:25,800 And it was still pretty interesting and kind of adventurous listening, I guess I would say. 152 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:26,560 Yeah. 153 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:36,200 I mean, so the sort of excitement, the energy that turntablists and DJs bring and sampling brings, right? 154 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,720 And particularly in this case, because the production by the Dust Brothers who at the time 155 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:47,440 were probably best known for their work on the Beastie Boys, Paul's boutique, which is just loaded 156 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:51,800 with energy and we did talk about that album not too long ago on the show. 157 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:58,360 Then you apply the 90s slacker mentality to it, which I think is what Beck brings. 158 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,120 I kind of like, oh, whatever. 159 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:02,400 I don't care. 160 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,640 You know, kind of vibe to this energetic sound. 161 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,200 It's sort of a weird mix. 162 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:08,560 It is a weird mix. 163 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,520 Yeah, Beck is like kind of a weird anomaly. 164 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:15,000 Like he seems like a nerdy little dude, kind of like a dweeb who does seem kind of 165 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:19,840 disinterested in his own music, but then he puts out this like really bizarre, creative stuff 166 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,840 that doesn't seem at all related to who he is as a person. 167 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:23,520 Hipster. 168 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:24,480 Yeah. 169 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,080 Let's hear another cut from the record. 170 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:29,440 This one is later on. 171 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:35,160 It's kind of one of the more folky tracks that kind of ties back to his roots called Ramshackle. 172 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:45,400 So that's the final cut on the album. 173 00:08:45,560 --> 00:08:49,520 It was actually originally recorded during some previous sessions he had done with 174 00:08:49,680 --> 00:08:52,840 producers, Tom Rothrock and Rob Schnapf. 175 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,040 Rothrock of Schnapf. 176 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,000 It's the Bond brothers, right? 177 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:56,520 Yes. 178 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:57,480 I think they are. 179 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:58,560 The Bond something or other. 180 00:08:58,800 --> 00:08:59,120 Yeah. 181 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,880 But anyway, those sessions were abandoned once Beck decided to work with the Dust 182 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:08,960 Brothers, but this is a track that ended up on the album, obviously, very different. 183 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:10,320 So there's no sampling on that. 184 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:17,160 Just Beck's guitar, bass by Charlie Hayden and percussion by Joey Warinker. 185 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:22,160 The song was initially titled Marty Robbins as a tribute to the country music legend. 186 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,480 Just kind of shows you Beck's kind of diverse influences. 187 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:32,760 But it's more of that kind of like 90s hipster salvation army shopping. 188 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:33,720 Oh, okay. 189 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:34,320 I know what you mean. 190 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:39,120 Man, bitter grunge dude here just can't deal with this mid 90s rock. 191 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:45,880 No, it was the vibe at the time, this sort of secondhand store vibe within pop culture. 192 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,000 That was like the next step after the grunge thing. 193 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:49,160 Yeah. 194 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,880 It became cool to celebrate square things. 195 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:52,680 Yeah. 196 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:53,640 Yeah. 197 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:55,120 It was a weird time. 198 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:01,240 The lyrics are about a downtrodden character who perseveres in the face of hardship. 199 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:08,360 Anyway, my clickbait headline for Odellay is Turntables Meet Flannel on Enigmatic Mid 90s Gem. 200 00:10:08,680 --> 00:10:11,240 So I mean, dude already kind of made this point. 201 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:19,200 I think it was sort of the mixing of that alternative rock vibe with Turntables, 202 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,720 with sort of the DJ attitude. 203 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:28,280 Thinking about it now, I wonder to what extent this might have influenced kind of that new metal, 204 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:35,360 because you're taking rock and it's like we now have permission to use turntables and to scratch with rock and roll. 205 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,240 Play them on Dust Brothers. 206 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:37,680 Yeah. 207 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:42,720 And some of the songs to me do sound like they could belong on Paul's boutique, 208 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,000 although I mean, his rapping style is different. 209 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:50,640 But I do think there's a lot more Beck on this than Dust Brothers. 210 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:55,160 I think the Dust Brothers sort of probably re-energized him or kind of, 211 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,240 I would say inspired him to explore new sounds. 212 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:02,360 But those like fuzzy lead guitar lines are sort of mixed throughout the album. 213 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:03,520 It's very Beckish. 214 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,120 Yeah, it's a very, it's a signature Beck move, I think. 215 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,200 All right, why don't we play another cut from the record here. 216 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:09,840 This was the lead single. 217 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,000 It's called Where It's At. 218 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:20,640 That was a good drum break. 219 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:27,240 Yeah, a genre bending anthem of sorts, paying homage to the two turntables and a microphone 220 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:31,720 sort of talk of early hip hop and b-boy culture of the 80s. 221 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:37,720 And also it included some samples from some educational film from the 70s called Sex for Teens. 222 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,640 But that that Warlitzer riff is Beck's. 223 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:46,160 Kind of bridged that loser sound with the 224 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:50,840 sounds of Odellay. I think that's probably why it was the lead single. 225 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:56,160 And that was a good drum break sample comes from 1989 song by The Frogs called I Don't Care 226 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,560 If You Disrespect Me Just So You Love Me. 227 00:11:58,560 --> 00:11:59,560 I love that title. 228 00:12:01,560 --> 00:12:04,520 Do we know where Let's Make It Out Baby comes from? 229 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,320 Is that from that educational video? 230 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:07,960 Could be, I don't know. 231 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,040 I can only find what I could find. 232 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,800 My clickbait is a little bit more 233 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:18,320 I can only find what I could find. My clickbait headline to describe the album. 234 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:25,240 Odellay turns a lo-fi loser into an alt rock nerd god with a little help from the Dust Brothers. 235 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:26,720 Y'all. 236 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,440 Yeah, G-A-W-D. 237 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,640 I don't want to be sacrilegious up in here. 238 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:37,400 So this transformed him from a one hit wonder, which is really the trajectory I think most people thought he was on 239 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,640 to a superstar, really. 240 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,560 I mean, kind of a tastemaker in music after that. 241 00:12:43,560 --> 00:12:45,480 It's like a buffet of sounds. 242 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:50,800 Sometimes golden corral, others old country buffet, but mostly ponderosa. 243 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,560 Is ponderosa the high end of that scale or the low end of it? 244 00:12:53,560 --> 00:12:58,360 I think it's the lowest of the... 245 00:12:58,360 --> 00:12:59,400 The blandest. 246 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:05,000 And that's kind of like, yes, there's some fun stuff here, but it's not unenjoyable. 247 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:05,920 I do like it. 248 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,960 It's just, it doesn't elicit much emotion in me. 249 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,280 And I don't know if it's supposed, maybe it's not supposed to. 250 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:20,240 Did you feel things from this or was it just more of performative, like watching an installation of an art project? 251 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:21,160 Yeah, I mean, it's... 252 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,720 I mean, because it's so groove based, I guess. 253 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:28,200 So I just end up wiggling my head and tapping my feet. 254 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,960 Yeah, I mean, that last song, the Ram Shackle, I guess moved me a bit. 255 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,800 But I think you have a good point. 256 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:41,160 But yeah, Ram Shackle and then probably my favorite track on the album is Jackass. 257 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:47,160 And the B-side, the acoustic version, Strange Invitation, I always liked that song quite a bit. 258 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:51,520 And that felt a little more coherent, a little more connected to emotion. 259 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:52,840 I like those moments. 260 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,480 I wish there were more of those moments on this record, I guess. 261 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,680 Yeah, so I wouldn't say that I love it or hate it. 262 00:13:59,680 --> 00:14:03,160 I'm just kind of agnostic on it, if that makes any sense. 263 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:03,680 It's... 264 00:14:03,680 --> 00:14:05,520 I'm sort of on the fence. 265 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,960 After all these years, I still don't know what to make of Beck. 266 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:15,160 It's interesting that he went on to create some very, I would say, poignant folk rock records. 267 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:16,080 Those I enjoy. 268 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,160 Within 10 years or so. 269 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,320 Whereas this does feel kind of more impersonal. 270 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,160 I would agree it's a little more... 271 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,040 Like looking at a piece of art, I think is a good analogy. 272 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:31,400 Not that art can't be personal, but this does feel like maybe it's something a little more alien than a lot of his other art. 273 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:35,320 Yeah, I think comparing this to Paul's boutique a little bit, 274 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:39,120 which does have these big personalities and these big sound. 275 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:45,160 This has a big sound and I like it back as being more like the anchor that kind of holds this record steady. 276 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,640 His voice, I guess, in terms of the mix. 277 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:48,520 Yeah. 278 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:49,560 It's kind of dry. 279 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,200 There's not a lot of flavor to his voice. 280 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:53,520 It's very consistent. 281 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:58,720 And I think that works pretty well when you have so much going on around him in a kind of a messy way. 282 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,840 Yeah, I think it's a different kind of concoction than we've had in the past. 283 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,680 And I think it's for that, it's pretty interesting. 284 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,400 And yeah, I still enjoy it quite a bit today. 285 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:10,280 You haven't heard of Ode to Lay. 286 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,760 Definitely worth a listen, I think, in my opinion. 287 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,600 Yeah, available on all the usual streaming platforms. 288 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,920 Before we continue our journey through career redefinition, 289 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,800 why don't we hear from our friends over at the Six Picks Music Club? 290 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:27,800 Hey there, I'm Dave. 291 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,360 And I host Six Picks Music Club with my two buddies, Jeff Rowe and Russ. 292 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:36,640 We talk about six songs on a playlist that meet a theme to a topic that we've already decided on. 293 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,160 Just real quick, do you meet themes? 294 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,360 Do you meet them? 295 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:42,600 OK, no, I don't know. 296 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,160 I guess that what's the... 297 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,960 Russ, can I get a ruling on the verbal phrase, meet the theme? 298 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,040 Jeff, I don't know. 299 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,800 I'm not fluent in the spoken word. 300 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,880 People just don't say meet the theme. 301 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,280 They say fit a theme. 302 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:59,120 And every week we talk about six songs that fit a theme. 303 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,040 All right. OK, fit a theme. 304 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,520 Guys, we're going to have to re-record this. 305 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,120 Ah, f*** my d***. 306 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:13,240 OK, and Dave, don't forget, it's Six Picks Music Club, not your dark web pod, 307 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,840 Sex Picks Booty Grub. 308 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:16,440 Boy. 309 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,760 Yeah, so go check out the Six Picks Music Club. 310 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:29,080 So for my career redefining album, we're going back to March 1969 311 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:33,440 to Dusty in Memphis by Dusty Springfield. 312 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,040 Dusty in Memphis. 313 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:40,120 So this is the fifth studio album by the English singer, 314 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:44,400 born Mary Isobel Catherine Bernadette O'Brien. 315 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,120 I can see why she... 316 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:46,800 Shortened it. 317 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,720 Yeah. 318 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,600 Born in 1939. 319 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:55,000 So she already had a successful career as a pop singer, 320 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,720 having some pretty major hits. 321 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:01,520 But she signed with Atlantic Records, who was Aretha Franklin's label. 322 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,880 She really was interested in kind of reinvigorating her career 323 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,440 and kind of boost her credibility as a soul singer. 324 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,960 She ended up working with Jerry Wexler, R.F. 325 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:15,760 Martin, Tom Dowd and conductor Jean Orloff on this record 326 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,880 recorded in Sound Studios in Memphis. 327 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:20,920 Let's hear probably the most famous cut. 328 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:31,760 This is Son of a Preacher Man. 329 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,520 Sounds really familiar. 330 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,480 I've heard that recently. 331 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:35,960 Yeah. 332 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,960 So we did talk about that on our soundtracks episode, 333 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,280 because of course it appears in Pulp Fiction. 334 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,160 Son of a Preacher Man was written and composed 335 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,880 by American songwriters John Hurley and Ronnie Wilkins. 336 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,720 And they had Aretha Franklin in mind. 337 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,920 But I never trust these things. 338 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,880 Supposedly Franklin turned it down 339 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,760 because she believed it was disrespectful to her father, 340 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,160 who was a preacher. 341 00:17:58,160 --> 00:17:58,640 Oh. 342 00:17:58,640 --> 00:17:58,960 Yeah. 343 00:17:58,960 --> 00:17:59,480 OK. 344 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:03,360 Anyway, my clickbait headline for Dusty in Memphis is, 345 00:18:03,360 --> 00:18:06,080 British pop queen goes walking in Memphis. 346 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,160 Walking in Memphis. 347 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,960 Yeah, so I guess Wexler and Springfield's idea for the album 348 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,800 was to record kind of more pop compositions, 349 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:19,520 but with that sort of southern soul rhythmic feel. 350 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,360 I think it was a successful venture. 351 00:18:21,360 --> 00:18:22,520 It's kind of funny, though. 352 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,200 Actually, most of her vocals actually 353 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,800 came from a session in New York, not from this famous Memphis 354 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:28,320 studio. 355 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:29,200 I've heard that, too. 356 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,360 Yeah, but she got the feel of Memphis. 357 00:18:32,360 --> 00:18:36,320 And she did end up using the sound studio musicians. 358 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,000 The Memphis Boys had worked with Wilson Pickett and Bobby 359 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,880 Womack and King Curtis. 360 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,240 And the backing vocals you hear are 361 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,520 from The Sweet Inspirations. 362 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,000 Well, let's hear some more. 363 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,240 This is Windmills of Your Mind. 364 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:53,640 Let's walk along the shore and leave their footprints 365 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,600 in the sand. 366 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,120 Is the sound of distant dreams? 367 00:18:58,120 --> 00:19:02,200 So yeah, a haunting song about inner turmoil, 368 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,480 when those being used as metaphors 369 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,200 for uncontrolled thoughts. 370 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:07,880 And the lyrics kind of evoke feelings 371 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,480 of being trapped in these obsessive loops. 372 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,800 It was originally written for the Thomas Crown 373 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,120 Affair movie soundtrack. 374 00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:17,320 And I won an Academy Award. 375 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,680 And then Jerry Wexler wanted Dusty to record it 376 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:21,480 for her album. 377 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,200 But she didn't really want to originally. 378 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,520 But she was kind of talked into it. 379 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,920 And it did end up charting on the Billboard charts. 380 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,160 So she didn't sing this originally, then? 381 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:31,660 No. 382 00:19:31,660 --> 00:19:35,120 It was sung by Noel Harrison for the Thomas Crown Affair. 383 00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:35,840 Really? 384 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,640 Me clickbait headline to describe the album. 385 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:40,140 Matey. 386 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,240 The original heartbreak queen who taught Adele 387 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,280 how to make you feel every word. 388 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,080 Soulful, folksy, and sadly sensual. 389 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,880 We got a British lady who goes to America to record 390 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,840 and learns how to find her soul and use the blues, 391 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,000 similar to what we talked about with Adele before. 392 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,640 It's the Adele story. 393 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,440 I thought of this being the Adele 1.0. 394 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,160 I kind of feel like she's very similar in that. 395 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,080 I mean, their voices obviously are different. 396 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,600 But I think it was unusual at the time for a British lady 397 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,960 to be a soul singer in America. 398 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,840 And it was kind of unusual when Adele broke, too. 399 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:17,340 So. 400 00:20:17,340 --> 00:20:20,260 Even the look is similar, with the big eyelashes 401 00:20:20,260 --> 00:20:22,120 and the blonde. 402 00:20:22,120 --> 00:20:24,360 It's a very pleasant album. 403 00:20:24,360 --> 00:20:27,760 Lots of swelling strings and lilting voice. 404 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,360 Very emotionally charged. 405 00:20:29,360 --> 00:20:32,080 So kind of a bit of a palate cleanser 406 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:37,280 after the high energy, low energy mix of Beck's album. 407 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,720 So just more steady. 408 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,320 There are no surprises here. 409 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,960 And that's sometimes kind of nice. 410 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,760 Well, let's hear some more. 411 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,240 Breakfast in Bed. 412 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:50,720 Breakfast in bed. 413 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,200 Breakfast in bed. 414 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,200 Breakfast in bed. 415 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:59,200 You don't have to say I love you. 416 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,200 That's like borderline naughty. 417 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:02,200 It is. 418 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,160 This whole record is like a little bit borderline. 419 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:04,660 Yeah. 420 00:21:04,660 --> 00:21:06,120 I kind of like it. 421 00:21:06,120 --> 00:21:09,440 That song was written by Eddie Hinton and Danny Fritz. 422 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,000 Features the line we heard there. 423 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,960 You don't have to say you love me. 424 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,360 Which was a reference to one of Dusty's hits 425 00:21:15,360 --> 00:21:18,200 a few years prior of the same name. 426 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,600 My clickbait headline for Dusty at Memphis 427 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,600 is Dusty Sounds Right at Home in this soulful and sultry 428 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:25,840 classic. 429 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:26,920 Sultry. 430 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,280 How is the price? 431 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,760 It's kind of sexy, this record is. 432 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,080 Both in terms of her delivery and also 433 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,680 in terms of the subject matter, which is largely focused 434 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:36,440 on love. 435 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,360 But I would say the more physical side of that 436 00:21:39,360 --> 00:21:41,920 relationship or that connection with people. 437 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,560 Yeah, I remember the line when she's like, 438 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:45,880 I'm like a beast. 439 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,720 Remember that? 440 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,160 It was surprising to listen to. 441 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:52,800 But speaking of that, I think it's 442 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,880 the right kind of sexuality. 443 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,840 I think she's empowered. 444 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,520 She's not objectifying herself. 445 00:21:58,520 --> 00:21:59,200 Right. 446 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,280 No, yeah. 447 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,560 Yeah, it's very much on her terms, I would say. 448 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,920 So I guess the record as a whole definitely 449 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,360 has some gospel roots. 450 00:22:06,360 --> 00:22:09,800 I think it's much more prevalent on a handful of tracks here. 451 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,720 Actually, the two that we've featured so far, 452 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,000 Preacher Man and Breakfast in Bed. 453 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,120 A lot of the album has the kind of this, 454 00:22:16,120 --> 00:22:18,960 I used to say, more of traditional 60s pop 455 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,440 orchestral accompaniment, right? 456 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,680 Yeah, I mean, Windmills probably fits that bill. 457 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:26,880 Yeah. 458 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,360 That sound to me is just, I don't know, 459 00:22:29,360 --> 00:22:32,520 it just sounds so just kind of blah, kind of beige, 460 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,160 just kind of filler in the background. 461 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,760 Doesn't really speak to me a lot in terms of the emotion. 462 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,640 But thankfully, you have her voice, which does handle 463 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:40,960 all that heavy lifting. 464 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,160 Yeah, I mean, Windmills, I like that track a lot. 465 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,800 But I didn't really feel it fit into the album as well 466 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,480 as maybe as the rest of the songs here did. 467 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,480 In terms of having that soul aspect to it, 468 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:51,560 it felt a little more poppy. 469 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,800 But yeah, as a whole, I did really enjoy this. 470 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,040 It was really the first time I've 471 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,520 listened to her in any length. 472 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,080 And yeah, a really great voice and so much personality in it. 473 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,360 And I really enjoyed it. 474 00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:05,440 OK, so Dusty in Memphis made Dusty Springfield a soul legend. 475 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:06,000 Check it out. 476 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:13,200 Excuse me, I'd like to ask you a few questions. 477 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:18,640 It's time for Deep Questions by Dom. 478 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,840 We're going to redefine this question segment. 479 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,240 Redefine Deep Questions. 480 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,920 Well, so outside the world of music, 481 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,240 what other people have redefined their careers? 482 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,000 I was struggling on this one, guys. 483 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,080 I relied on the internet a little bit 484 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,320 to provide some information for me. 485 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,440 There were a couple of surprises on that I'll share with you guys. 486 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,360 Do you guys know the film director Ang Lee? 487 00:23:42,360 --> 00:23:42,880 Remember him? 488 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:43,440 Sure, yeah. 489 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,000 Country Tiger, Hidden Dragon, and Brokeback Mountain, I believe. 490 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,040 Yeah, in a weird Hulk movie. 491 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,280 Yeah, in a terrible Hulk movie, yeah. 492 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,680 He was a stay at home dad for like six or seven years 493 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,840 before that, taking care of his kids. 494 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:57,360 Wow. 495 00:23:57,360 --> 00:24:00,440 Which I appreciate jumping right into film directing somehow. 496 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:01,200 Pretty big change. 497 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,400 And then Terry Crews, man. 498 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:03,280 I did not realize. 499 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,880 I knew he was a big jacked guy. 500 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:09,080 He played in the NFL sparingly for a couple seasons inside of Lick. 501 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,360 Terry likes football. 502 00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:14,960 Terry likes football. 503 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,200 You got to watch Brooklyn Nine-Nine for that to land. 504 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,120 Terry loves that. 505 00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:19,880 Funny guy. 506 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:20,280 Funny guy. 507 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:20,680 I like him. 508 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,720 You'll see the one in the Old Spice commercials. 509 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:23,920 Oh, yeah, he did those too. 510 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:30,080 But he was also in Idiocracy as the President Camacho. 511 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,400 It's President Camacho. 512 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:31,900 Oh, god. 513 00:24:31,900 --> 00:24:34,520 I love it. 514 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:35,520 Dude. 515 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,640 My mind went to several things. 516 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,840 Like I thought about pulp fiction reviving John Travolta's career. 517 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,280 But what I really thought about was Arnold Schwarzenegger. 518 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,280 Talk about career redefining, right? 519 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,040 So he's like the master. 520 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,160 Yeah, starts off as a bodybuilder, can't speak English, 521 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,880 becomes Mr. Olympia, manages to weasel his way in the movies, 522 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,460 and then gets the Conan the Barbarian, makes him a movie star. 523 00:25:00,460 --> 00:25:05,120 Then after decades of being one of the top box office draws, 524 00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:09,360 he quits and becomes the governor of California. 525 00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:09,920 California. 526 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:10,920 California. 527 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:18,280 And then after that, goes back to acting and does hit movies and Netflix series. 528 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:19,840 Smokes a lot of cigars. 529 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,600 He does smoke a lot of cigars. 530 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,040 But I mean, that's a lot of career redefinition 531 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,240 throughout this man's life. 532 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:33,600 So there's a documentary series about him on Netflix that I recommend. 533 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:34,960 It's just called Arnold. 534 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,300 And he's heavily involved in the storytelling of it. 535 00:25:38,300 --> 00:25:41,400 So I think he had a hand in the making of it. 536 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:42,800 But it's an interesting story. 537 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,440 Starts at the beginning all the way to the present time. 538 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,160 It's not a tumor. 539 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,800 What have you got done? 540 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:53,380 Well, as a child of the 80s, there's so many young actors 541 00:25:53,380 --> 00:25:56,520 that were in sitcoms and stuff that just kind of disappear. 542 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,880 But I guess it was late 90s or early 2000s. 543 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:03,880 Suddenly Jason Bateman was back, which I was very happy about. 544 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,520 The show Arrested Development. 545 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:10,440 And then pretty much since then, he's been on a pretty good role with Ozark. 546 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:11,520 Lots of movies. 547 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,400 That podcast. 548 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,200 Oh, but don't forget, he did have a win as a young man 549 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,960 when he starred in Teen Wolf 2. 550 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:24,840 Where for some reason, the sport of choice was college boxing. 551 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,880 Which does not make any sense. 552 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,040 It's sweaty, sweaty wolf. 553 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,960 OK, well, what other people have redefined their careers? 554 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:34,680 Let us know. 555 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,080 Hit us on the socials, Instagram, and Facebook. 556 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,840 Or leave a comment on our website, albumnerds.com. 557 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:47,000 All right, so Tom Petty, American singer, songwriter, 558 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,120 and guitarist, chorus leader of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. 559 00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:54,000 Also Mudcrutch was another one of his bands. 560 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,120 And the Traveling Wilburys. 561 00:26:56,120 --> 00:26:59,840 He sold over 80 million records in total. 562 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,760 Do people know who Tom Petty is? 563 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:03,880 I can't think of it in the background. 564 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:04,720 Just making sure. 565 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,000 You never know. 566 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,040 OK. 567 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,880 But Full Moon Fever was his first solo album released in April of 1989. 568 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,440 Featured contributions from his Heartbreakers bandmates 569 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,600 and Traveling Wilburys collaborators. 570 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,280 And produced by Jeff Lin as well. 571 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,240 Bit of a creative departure from the Heartbreakers. 572 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:27,040 A little more reflective of his influences growing up. 573 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,920 Probably more kind of your beatily sort of rock and roll. 574 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,880 I mean, he was just working with George Harrison. 575 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,760 So what do you expect? 576 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,560 Why don't we start off with my favorite track on the album, 577 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:38,560 I Won't Back Down. 578 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:46,040 Hey, I will stand my ground. 579 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,040 I won't back down. 580 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,800 Those backing vocals are so Jeff Lin. 581 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:56,400 You know, that yellow sort of sound. 582 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:02,080 So that track is an anthem of resilience and defiance, 583 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,840 co-written with Jeff Lin. 584 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,560 And it's great for any time you're facing any challenges. 585 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:12,760 It's a nice kind of mellow yet psych up song. 586 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,600 George Harrison is on backing vocals. 587 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,760 And it feels like maybe he's doing a little guitar there. 588 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:18,320 I don't know. 589 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,480 Just kind of that kind of sounds like him. 590 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,840 But who knows? 591 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,680 Yeah, I wonder if that's Campbell or Harrison on that. 592 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:25,560 Good question. 593 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,960 Interestingly, in 2015, Petty and Lin 594 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,680 were credited as co-writers on Sam Smith's Stay With Me 595 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,000 due to a similarity between the songs. 596 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,040 Did you guys hear about that? 597 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:35,560 No. 598 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,200 So it's not a ripoff. 599 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,840 But there were so many similarities 600 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,120 that it was ruled that they were owed some creative piece. 601 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,160 I just think that's funny how that happens. 602 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,240 Can you sing the Sam Smith version? 603 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,400 Stay with me. 604 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,480 That's what he sounds like to me. 605 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,320 Mike Click made that line to describe the album. 606 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,440 Full moon fever, Tom Petty finally 607 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,400 got comfortable with being Tom Petty, 608 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,440 and the world was better for it. 609 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,480 There's such an ease and confidence in this 610 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,920 compared to the early Heartbreakers albums. 611 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:11,280 This was just making songs in the garage of his friends 612 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,080 and bandmates. 613 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,240 And it turned into a real album. 614 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,440 It kind of reshaped who Tom Petty was in the pop culture 615 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:19,640 and in music. 616 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,280 For me, it was the moment where he became a cool badass. 617 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,200 I'm not quite sure why, but I remember thinking, hey, 618 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,880 I thought of him as some old dude, 619 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,160 and I didn't after this. 620 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,560 Yeah, I definitely put him on the map for me too 621 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,160 at this time period where I started 622 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,480 noticing pop-up on the radio. 623 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,440 I wasn't aware of his earlier output. 624 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:43,560 And this guy sounds pretty cool for an old dude. 625 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:44,840 Pretty fly for a white guy. 626 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,280 All right, why don't we listen to another track. 627 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,240 This one is Running Down a Dream. 628 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,240 The trees went back. 629 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:57,720 Me and Dale were singing a little runaway. 630 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,520 I think that's probably my favorite Tom Petty song. 631 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,240 I really, really enjoy that. 632 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,960 It seems to me about his career as a musician, 633 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,920 maybe looking back at your career as a musician, 634 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,720 or maybe what inspired you to get on this path. 635 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,800 Yeah, he would have been about 39 or something, 636 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:11,920 like 30s at this time. 637 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:12,520 Mm-hmm. 638 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,320 Yeah, he references a song from the early 60s 639 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,520 by Dale Shannon, possibly listened to growing up. 640 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:18,040 I don't know. 641 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,240 I know I did. 642 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:19,800 Did you? 643 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:20,320 Yeah. 644 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,480 I used to be on all these radio all the time, that song. 645 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,760 Michael's big headline for Full Moon Fever 646 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,920 is, for a struggling artist about to go out in his own, 647 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,520 Petty released what has to be the most accomplished, 648 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,520 star-studded, and successful debut solo record ever 649 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,360 recorded. 650 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,560 That's a pretty nice way to start your solo career. 651 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,280 I mean, got George Harrison and Jeff Lynn helping you out 652 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:44,440 behind the scenes. 653 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,520 Yeah, he made some powerful friends there in the Wilburys. 654 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,600 Apparently, most of this was recorded before that, 655 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,520 but he was already part of the gang. 656 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:53,040 Yeah. 657 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,160 Roy Orbison, too. 658 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:59,120 I mean, can you imagine learning from those guys? 659 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,880 Some pretty good friends to have. 660 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,480 I was not familiar with this record. 661 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,000 I hadn't really listened to it before. 662 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,240 All the way through the A-side is just like, 663 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,480 I almost thought this was a great hit album at first. 664 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,160 I was like, wow, there's so many just bangers on here, 665 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,640 well-known songs. 666 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,320 Yeah, but I think the B-side is where 667 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,840 I was really convinced at how confident Petty sounds here. 668 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,440 Just very sure of himself, very mature songwriting. 669 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,400 And the delivery, he just always sounds 670 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,680 confident is the best word I can come up with. 671 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,520 Every lyric just has a little bit of force behind it. 672 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,640 Yeah, I found this really compelling. 673 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:38,280 Even the goofier songs like, You're So Bad and A Mind 674 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,080 Without Heart of Its Own and Zombie Zoo, 675 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,480 I guess, which is kind of goofy. 676 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:42,280 Zombie Zoo. 677 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:43,920 I found those all really interesting. 678 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,440 Well, what's funny about Zombie Zoo is it's just like, 679 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,000 this is where you can tell he's a bit of an older dude, right? 680 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,560 Because it's about 1980s youth culture 681 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,560 and the flamboyant fashion trends. 682 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,760 Zombie Zoo apparently was a real club Petty visited 683 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,640 in Los Angeles at one point, but just this zoo 684 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,520 full of these creatures wearing these weird outfits. 685 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:04,020 Yeah. 686 00:32:04,020 --> 00:32:04,520 Kids. 687 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:05,020 Yeah. 688 00:32:05,020 --> 00:32:06,160 Children makers. 689 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,160 Youths. 690 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,720 Who let them zombies out that damn Zombie Zoo? 691 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,960 All right, why don't we listen to one more track. 692 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,440 This one's called All Right for Now. 693 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,280 Sleep tight, my love. 694 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,520 May God watch over you. 695 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,240 Don's got tears flowing down his face. 696 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:25,840 I do. 697 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:26,360 Yeah. 698 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,240 So that's basically like a lullaby, right? 699 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,920 Or a goodnight message to a loved one. 700 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,840 I'm pretty sure that's just one guitar, which if it is, 701 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:36,800 it's pretty impressive. 702 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,240 I love that folk sound, the finger picking. 703 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,240 It's probably the softest and I guess quietest 704 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,880 moment on the record. 705 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,600 Yeah, but it's also kind of what I like about it 706 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,480 is it's just his voice. 707 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,480 And prior to this album, I always kind of 708 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,040 thought he just sounded like a Bob Dylan clone. 709 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:02,160 But maybe it's that confidence that he gained over the years. 710 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,400 Or maybe age. 711 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,440 It doesn't sound like that. 712 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:06,520 It doesn't sound like that. 713 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,360 It's like his own style was fully 714 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:11,640 established by this point. 715 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,480 I really feel like he's a grown up on this record. 716 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,000 Maybe that's like the big redefining moment. 717 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,480 He's a grown man. 718 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,560 The Heartbreakers were kind of aggressive in some ways. 719 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,760 Kind of have like a punk rock or garage rock edge. 720 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,400 And now he's like an elder statesman 721 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,360 of classic rock or something. 722 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,960 Well, the alternate title for this album was Grown Ass Man, 723 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,040 but they didn't think it would fly. 724 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:37,600 Is that true? 725 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:38,640 In other words, no. 726 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,960 Of course it's not true. 727 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,400 It almost could be. 728 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,720 Well, my clickbait headline for Full Moon Fever 729 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,960 is Jeff Lin uses petty to complete takeover 730 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,240 of the late 80s legacy rock sound. 731 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:52,000 Yeah. 732 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:52,880 Yeah. 733 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,120 So beginning with George Harrison's comeback album, 734 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,440 Cloud 9 came in 1987. 735 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,360 That was a collaboration with Jeff Lin. 736 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:01,840 Of course, the Traveling Woolberries. 737 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:02,400 Sure. 738 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:02,720 Yeah. 739 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:03,640 Roy Orbison. 740 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,600 Roy Orbison, mystery girl. 741 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,760 So it's just that some people call it the Wilbury sound now, 742 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:15,040 but it just has those layered vocals, that shimmering guitar, 743 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,360 and just that polished radio friendly sound. 744 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,240 But I think even the records he didn't produce, 745 00:34:21,240 --> 00:34:25,120 like Rod Stewart, Forever Young, that all kind of feels 746 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,280 sort of Jeff Lin-y. 747 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:31,440 So he did have a mini takeover of the non-glam rock 748 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:32,920 of that time period. 749 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,240 And I think this is a fantastic record. 750 00:34:35,240 --> 00:34:38,960 I mean, literally any song could have been a single or a hit. 751 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,240 Yeah, I completely agree. 752 00:34:41,240 --> 00:34:43,320 It's a masterpiece. 753 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,520 One wonderful moment in the album 754 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,000 is when he has that interlude where he's like, 755 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,400 hello, CD listeners, and suggests 756 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,320 that they take a little break while vinyl listeners 757 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,600 and cassette listeners flip the tape or flip the record. 758 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,880 That was back in that transitional period 759 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:01,360 of the new formats. 760 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,600 But other songs we can't forget to mention, 761 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,360 Free Fallin', the opening track. 762 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,200 Everybody knows that one. 763 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:13,960 You're So Bad is just so bad. 764 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,400 Dylan shows a little bit. 765 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,000 A little bit. 766 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,720 Tom, your Dylan is showing. 767 00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:23,680 But yeah, I mean, I think this is a classic and a career 768 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:28,920 redefining album, a generational redefinition for these folks 769 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,720 that came up through the 70s and 80s. 770 00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:35,080 And I'm going to nominate it for the Album Nerds Hall of Fame. 771 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,320 Full Moon Fever redefined Tom Petty's career. 772 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,240 And it proved that creative risks 773 00:35:41,240 --> 00:35:43,520 and that leap to making a solo project 774 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,240 could lead to unprecedented success and lasting impact. 775 00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:48,040 So it's a yes for me. 776 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,000 Gentlemen, start your engines. 777 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,320 So you would take this over Wildflowers, 778 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,800 is that the consent? 779 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:55,920 I wouldn't. 780 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,760 I wouldn't take it over Wildflowers. 781 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,720 They're very different albums. 782 00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:01,760 But there would be no Wildflowers had there not 783 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:02,920 been Full Moon Fever. 784 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,480 So I think this was the first step forward 785 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,800 into him sort of doing things outside of the Heartbreakers. 786 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,280 I'm just wondering if we got room for two Petty's in the hall. 787 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,800 Of course we do. 788 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,240 Don't be petty. 789 00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:17,440 I will say yes. 790 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,680 I did really enjoy it. 791 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,960 If that's not making it personal, then I would say yes. 792 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:23,640 Otherwise, no. 793 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,680 This is for posterity, bro. 794 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,080 No, it's really great. 795 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,240 I did enjoy it. 796 00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:31,120 Well, I guess my pick doesn't matter anymore. 797 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,320 But we'll make it unanimous. 798 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,320 I'll say I'll give a resounding yes. 799 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,040 All right. 800 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,480 Walk to the zombie zoo. 801 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,760 That's what we should call our podcast. 802 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,120 Don Petty, Full Moon Fever, Album Nerds Hall of Fame. 803 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,400 Go listen to it. 804 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,720 Can you dig it? 805 00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:50,040 Can you dig it? 806 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:54,440 Can you dig it? 807 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,520 Well, it's time to talk about other things 808 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:57,640 we've been digging. 809 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,440 Did anything redefine your week? 810 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,880 My week has been redefined. 811 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:04,760 Yes, yes. 812 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,800 I have a couple of things here in my little knapsack 813 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,400 that converts from a backpack to a sasho 814 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,640 to over the shoulder kind of situation. 815 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,400 You are fashion forward, brother. 816 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:17,920 Yeah, you know. 817 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,960 First one for me is from a Dublin-based, 818 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,480 I guess they call it punk rock group, called Skinner. 819 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,840 They have a new album out called New Wave Vaudeville. 820 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,160 I don't know the title. 821 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,320 Let's play the song with that. 822 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:34,720 I like it. 823 00:37:34,720 --> 00:37:37,000 Yeah, this is the product of a guy, my name 824 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,160 of Aaron Corcoran, inspired by the New York City no wave 825 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,840 scene in the 70s and 80s. 826 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:42,840 Oh, totally. 827 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,400 Yeah, sounds pretty interesting, but I'm enjoying it. 828 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,560 Last one for me is from a South African singer and dancer 829 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:54,160 by the name of Moonchild Salini, I guess how you'd say it. 830 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:55,520 That sounds Italian. 831 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,040 In high school, I knew a girl named Karma Cloud. 832 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,640 It's almost as good. 833 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,080 And the name of the record is Full Moon. 834 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,520 I guess you had full moon fever. 835 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,600 Yeah, we're doing a moon thing going on here. 836 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,000 Let's play Scramble Ducks. 837 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:09,880 Oh, baby, I hear you. 838 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:10,380 I'm sorry. 839 00:38:10,380 --> 00:38:10,880 Yeah. 840 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:11,920 I'm T.I. 841 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,360 Black spice, and I'm hot like ice. 842 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:15,360 I'm T.I. 843 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,080 That does not sound like Frazier. 844 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,520 Call this music future ghetto funk. 845 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,000 Pretty interesting, in my opinion. 846 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,040 What you been digging on, Don? 847 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:29,520 Well, I found an Americana band called The Devil Makes Three. 848 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,280 They've actually been around since 2002. 849 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,320 They're from Santa Cruz, California. 850 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,160 It's guitarist Pete Bernard, upright bassist Morgan Eve 851 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,880 Swain, and guitarist and tenor banjo player Cooper McBean. 852 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,520 The album's called Spirits, and this is the title track. 853 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:48,440 In this house now, too many spirits in my head. 854 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:49,400 Whoa, whoa, Raggy. 855 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,520 Too many spirits in my mind. 856 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,760 Gross. 857 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,080 Yes, that album comes out next month. 858 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,040 This is the only track available so far. 859 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:04,840 Also, kind of in the Americana spirit or country treatment, 860 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,240 we've got Ringo Starr, famously from I 861 00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:09,600 can't remember what band he was in. 862 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,640 Some Jefflin Projects or something. 863 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,360 So yeah, so Ringo Starr is back with his 21st solo album, 864 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:18,280 if you can believe that. 865 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,480 Wow, that's a lot. 866 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:20,120 Yeah. 867 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,400 So it's mostly a country album. 868 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,040 The songs are written by T-Bone Burnett, 869 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,520 features appearances from Billy Strings, Molly Tuttle, 870 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,160 Luscious, and Lark and Poe. 871 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,480 And the album's called Look Up, which kind of makes sense, 872 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:33,680 because he's a star, right? 873 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,200 So you look up. 874 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,400 Here's a song called Time on My Hands. 875 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:42,840 I turned my collar up, kept my eyes turned down. 876 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:47,720 Sounds kind of like Ringo and Willie Nelson have merged. 877 00:39:47,720 --> 00:39:48,520 I like it. 878 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:49,040 Yeah. 879 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:49,520 Yeah. 880 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:50,480 Full country. 881 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,760 Pretty much just like anything Ringo does, 882 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,000 I'll probably enjoy it and then kind of move on with my life. 883 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,400 Right. 884 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:58,160 Wow. 885 00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,760 Poor Ringo. 886 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:00,920 What are you digging, dude? 887 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,520 Whenever this band, Tremonti, puts out an album, 888 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,720 I really enjoy it for about a week, 889 00:40:05,720 --> 00:40:08,080 and then I accidentally forget about it. 890 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,480 We'll see if that's the case here. 891 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,480 Tremonti just put out an album called The End. 892 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:12,720 We'll show us how. 893 00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:16,120 Tremonti is a heavy metal band founded by Mark Tremonti, 894 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,000 the guitarist for Creed and Alter Bridge. 895 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,000 But it's him singing, and it's his kind of metal-ish project. 896 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,120 Why don't we listen to a little bit, One More Time. 897 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:30,440 One more time, yeah. 898 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,200 It's really all about big guitar sounds. 899 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:38,240 Think it's a guitarist just getting to exercise that muscle. 900 00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:40,440 And these albums always have the same kind of vibe, 901 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,640 but they're fun to listen to for a little bit. 902 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:43,520 We'll have to check it out. 903 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:44,120 Yeah. 904 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,040 All right, so I'm also digging a record 905 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:51,040 that I stumbled upon years ago while flipping through the $3 906 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,720 bin at a record store. 907 00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:54,080 And the cover just got me. 908 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,120 It's this dude holding a masquerade ball mask, 909 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,840 and has a little pencil mustache, and a big pompadour. 910 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,480 The artist is Mink DeVille, and the album 911 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,120 is called Coup De Gras from 1981. 912 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,320 It's a shift in the band's lineup and sound, more of a du-wop, 913 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,320 rock and roll, Bruce Springsteen-ish inspired sort 914 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:13,800 of sound, but with some Latin rhythms. 915 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,320 So let's listen to a little bit of Love and Emotion. 916 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:22,760 But then you love, love and emotion. 917 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,080 Is that a chord? 918 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,400 It's kind of John Cougar-ish. 919 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,040 Yeah, a little bit, yeah. 920 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,400 It's almost a Zydeco thing going on there. 921 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,480 When I picked this up, I just had 922 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,400 to hear what it sounded like, because I don't think Spotify 923 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,920 was the full deal yet at this point. 924 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,240 And I put it on, and it wasn't terrible. 925 00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:40,800 I was expecting it to be terrible, 926 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,840 and it was a fun listen. 927 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,560 And I pulled it out and dusted it off a couple of weeks ago. 928 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,160 And yeah, go check out Mink DeVille. 929 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,080 I mean, what the hell? 930 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:49,880 Why not, right? 931 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,200 Guest accordion by Weird Al Yankovic. 932 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,240 Well, what are you digging? 933 00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:54,760 Let us know. 934 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,000 Join us on the socials, Facebook, Instagram, 935 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,920 and threads, also on our website, albumnerds.com. 936 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:06,600 It will be a discovery of extraordinary value. 937 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,000 All right, well, what's about that time on the show, 938 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,120 and I reminded of the great American singer 939 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:15,520 and author Henry Rollins. 940 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:20,120 He said, I believe that one defines oneself by reinvention, 941 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,320 to not be like your parents, to not be like your friends, 942 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:28,000 to be yourself, to cut yourself out of stone, like Rollins. 943 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:28,600 Wow. 944 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,720 With that in mind, let's bring out my friend in yours, 945 00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:32,760 Wodbot, to see what we'll be talking about on next week's 946 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:33,260 episode. 947 00:42:33,260 --> 00:42:36,460 Success in the music industry can mean massive sales 948 00:42:36,460 --> 00:42:38,860 or groundbreaking artistic growth. 949 00:42:38,860 --> 00:42:41,820 Next time, you will be diving into sophomore albums 950 00:42:41,820 --> 00:42:45,220 that soared past their debuts, proving that the second time can 951 00:42:45,220 --> 00:42:47,300 be the charm in achieving greatness. 952 00:42:47,300 --> 00:42:51,460 So sophomore successes, that's interesting. 953 00:42:51,460 --> 00:42:55,660 A lot of times, the second album is the make it or break it 954 00:42:55,660 --> 00:42:56,180 sort of thing. 955 00:42:56,180 --> 00:42:58,820 And then the second album is the make it or break it 956 00:42:58,820 --> 00:42:59,540 sort of thing. 957 00:42:59,540 --> 00:43:03,340 A lot of times, the second album is the make it or break it sort 958 00:43:03,340 --> 00:43:06,100 of situation for artists, at least back 959 00:43:06,100 --> 00:43:08,980 in the days of big record labels. 960 00:43:08,980 --> 00:43:12,380 It's like the album nerds, the second episode was the best. 961 00:43:12,380 --> 00:43:14,780 No, it wasn't. 962 00:43:14,780 --> 00:43:18,780 Maybe 200 in seconds was the best. 963 00:43:18,780 --> 00:43:19,940 Still working on that one. 964 00:43:19,940 --> 00:43:20,460 Yeah. 965 00:43:20,460 --> 00:43:20,960 All right. 966 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,860 Well, what's your favorite second album? 967 00:43:22,860 --> 00:43:24,180 What else are you listening to? 968 00:43:24,180 --> 00:43:26,580 Email us at podcast at albumnerds.com. 969 00:43:26,580 --> 00:43:29,820 Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, threads, and bluesky 970 00:43:29,820 --> 00:43:30,780 at Album Nerds. 971 00:43:30,780 --> 00:43:34,500 And visit albumnerds.com to suggest topics for the show, 972 00:43:34,500 --> 00:43:38,820 peruse the Hall of Fame, and listen to all 276 episodes. 973 00:43:38,820 --> 00:43:40,820 The best way to support the show is to share it. 974 00:43:40,820 --> 00:43:44,060 So please subscribe, rate, and review on your favorite podcast 975 00:43:44,060 --> 00:43:44,780 app. 976 00:43:44,780 --> 00:43:47,260 Thank you so much for joining us on the Album Nerds Podcast. 977 00:43:47,260 --> 00:43:50,420 We will catch you next time with those sophomore delights. 978 00:43:50,420 --> 00:43:53,660 Wow, that's a creepy as fuck. 979 00:43:53,660 --> 00:43:54,500 Thank you. 980 00:43:54,500 --> 00:43:55,940 Thanks for listening, everybody. 981 00:43:55,940 --> 00:43:57,340 Catch you next week. 982 00:43:57,340 --> 00:44:03,580 And I'm free, free falling. 983 00:44:03,580 --> 00:44:05,540 Guess we had a comment somewhere. 984 00:44:05,540 --> 00:44:06,180 Yeah. 985 00:44:06,180 --> 00:44:09,660 I know Tom Petty, and sir, you are no Tom Petty. 986 00:44:09,660 --> 00:44:11,860 Lloyd Benson reference. 987 00:44:11,860 --> 00:44:26,420 Boy, oh boy.