1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:12,880 Welcome to the Album Nerds podcast with your hosts, Andy, Don, and Dude. 2 00:00:13,380 --> 00:00:15,240 It's time to get punked up. 3 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:17,340 It's the Album Nerds podcast. 4 00:00:18,240 --> 00:00:19,080 I'm Dude. 5 00:00:19,080 --> 00:00:20,720 I got Andy and Don with me. 6 00:00:20,860 --> 00:00:22,980 You punks ready to talk about some music? 7 00:00:23,220 --> 00:00:25,020 Yeah, I'm feeling, I'm feeling lucky. 8 00:00:25,020 --> 00:00:30,340 Yeah, got my hair gel and my mohawk here. 9 00:00:30,340 --> 00:00:32,180 I'm just about ready. 10 00:00:32,540 --> 00:00:33,940 Wearing a Blink 182 shirt. 11 00:00:34,020 --> 00:00:34,620 Nice. 12 00:00:35,340 --> 00:00:36,460 Classic punk, baby. 13 00:00:37,540 --> 00:00:38,420 Don, how about you? 14 00:00:38,660 --> 00:00:39,380 I owe. 15 00:00:39,420 --> 00:00:40,140 Let's go. 16 00:00:40,380 --> 00:00:41,340 Ooh, wow. 17 00:00:42,660 --> 00:00:47,340 I felt like I was in 1970s New York City, just bone chilling. 18 00:00:47,420 --> 00:00:48,300 Very, very good. 19 00:00:48,620 --> 00:00:50,980 This is the Album Nerds podcast. 20 00:00:51,140 --> 00:00:54,100 We love albums, the album format and sometimes each other. 21 00:00:54,100 --> 00:00:56,420 But we've got a really great show for you today. 22 00:00:56,420 --> 00:00:59,700 We're going to be talking about some classic punk albums. 23 00:00:59,700 --> 00:01:02,740 We'll each bring one of those to the table for discussion. 24 00:01:03,060 --> 00:01:06,500 We are also going to get a deep question from Don. 25 00:01:06,620 --> 00:01:10,500 We're going to give some shout outs to some albums and album related items we're 26 00:01:10,500 --> 00:01:13,260 digging outside of the punk space, mostly. 27 00:01:13,500 --> 00:01:16,100 And then we're going to spin the wheel of musical discovery to find out what 28 00:01:16,100 --> 00:01:17,500 we'll talk about next time. 29 00:01:17,620 --> 00:01:20,100 But this week it's all about that classic punk. 30 00:01:20,100 --> 00:01:22,940 That's what I'm talking about. 31 00:01:23,460 --> 00:01:28,260 Punk rock emerged in the mid 1970s as a raw, energetic rebellion against 32 00:01:28,260 --> 00:01:30,540 mainstream rock and societal norms. 33 00:01:30,580 --> 00:01:34,540 The genre produced a number of seminal albums that defined its sound and ethos, 34 00:01:34,660 --> 00:01:37,180 influencing generations of musicians to come. 35 00:01:37,500 --> 00:01:40,860 We will explore some of the most important and influential punk rock 36 00:01:40,860 --> 00:01:44,380 albums that helped shape the movement and continue to resonate today. 37 00:01:44,580 --> 00:01:47,900 Today, each of us will present an album from the classic punk era. 38 00:01:47,900 --> 00:01:50,500 Hey, what are you, some sort of punker? God, I hate punkers. 39 00:01:51,540 --> 00:01:52,540 Punkers. 40 00:01:53,420 --> 00:01:54,740 So classic punk. 41 00:01:54,780 --> 00:01:59,140 We really did try to limit ourselves to albums released before 1980, 42 00:01:59,220 --> 00:02:01,420 to keep with the spirit of that first wave. 43 00:02:01,700 --> 00:02:05,500 I tried personally to avoid like the Sex Pistols who we've talked about and the 44 00:02:05,500 --> 00:02:08,540 Clash and the really well-known stuff. 45 00:02:08,540 --> 00:02:12,100 I tried to explore, maybe find something I wasn't familiar with before. 46 00:02:12,420 --> 00:02:16,940 What else did you listen to this week before settling on the 47 00:02:16,940 --> 00:02:18,740 final album to talk about? 48 00:02:19,020 --> 00:02:23,540 The record I almost went with, because I found it so damned enjoyable, 49 00:02:23,540 --> 00:02:25,100 was from the damned. 50 00:02:25,420 --> 00:02:26,860 The record, Dam Dam Damned. 51 00:02:29,180 --> 00:02:31,180 Damn, right? 52 00:02:31,180 --> 00:02:36,820 1977's our first full length UK punk rock album ever released. 53 00:02:36,820 --> 00:02:39,580 Apparently, they just discovered that. 54 00:02:39,860 --> 00:02:42,940 They were kind of, they were tiered with the Clash and the Sex Pistols all kind 55 00:02:42,940 --> 00:02:45,940 of caught up in that, that big wave of punk rock that came out. 56 00:02:45,940 --> 00:02:47,860 The UK really enjoyed the record though. 57 00:02:47,860 --> 00:02:54,180 It's just really driving surprisingly polished punk rock debut there from the damned. 58 00:02:54,580 --> 00:02:58,540 Yeah, well I spent some time with Iggy and the Stooges, Raw Power. 59 00:02:59,020 --> 00:03:02,860 I think there's some disagreement about whether the Stooges were punk rock or 60 00:03:02,860 --> 00:03:07,380 if they were pre-punk and they feel pretty, they feel pretty punk. 61 00:03:07,660 --> 00:03:11,780 It seems like there's like Iggy's stage antics were more punk than like the 62 00:03:11,780 --> 00:03:15,580 music sounds a little bit more Motor City, Hard Rock, punk. 63 00:03:15,580 --> 00:03:17,300 Pretty Hard Rock sometimes. 64 00:03:17,300 --> 00:03:18,020 Yeah. 65 00:03:18,020 --> 00:03:19,900 That came out pretty early in the 70s, right? 66 00:03:19,900 --> 00:03:21,460 Yeah, that was 1973. 67 00:03:21,460 --> 00:03:27,300 But we should do a show on that like pre-punk era with like New York Dolls and the Stooges 68 00:03:27,300 --> 00:03:28,980 and MC5. 69 00:03:28,980 --> 00:03:30,300 Protopunk. 70 00:03:30,300 --> 00:03:31,100 Is that what it's called? 71 00:03:31,100 --> 00:03:31,980 I don't know, just made that up. 72 00:03:31,980 --> 00:03:32,580 Could be. 73 00:03:32,580 --> 00:03:33,420 Sounds cool. 74 00:03:33,420 --> 00:03:34,580 How about you, dude? 75 00:03:34,580 --> 00:03:39,340 So one of those obvious ones that I almost went with actually was the Ramones, 76 00:03:39,340 --> 00:03:42,660 their debut album from 1976, self-titled. 77 00:03:42,660 --> 00:03:43,820 They're so iconic. 78 00:03:43,820 --> 00:03:46,700 Their logo is on t-shirts everywhere. 79 00:03:46,700 --> 00:03:51,060 They are a foundational piece in what punk rock was and became. 80 00:03:51,060 --> 00:03:53,860 And it's just a catchy and fun to listen to. 81 00:03:53,860 --> 00:03:58,220 But ultimately I was looking for something a little snarlier, a little disenfranchised 82 00:03:58,220 --> 00:03:59,220 and angrier. 83 00:03:59,220 --> 00:04:03,660 So I went a different direction, but I did enjoy my time with the Ramones. 84 00:04:03,660 --> 00:04:06,260 So enough about what we considered. 85 00:04:06,260 --> 00:04:08,460 Let's get to our actual choices. 86 00:04:08,460 --> 00:04:16,980 You choo-choo-choose me? 87 00:04:16,980 --> 00:04:23,620 All right, from a classic punk rock selection, we're talking about Buzzcocks and their 1978 88 00:04:23,620 --> 00:04:27,700 debut album, Another Music in a Different Kitchen. 89 00:04:27,700 --> 00:04:29,540 I'll spoil a little bit of the cut. 90 00:04:29,540 --> 00:04:38,660 I don't mind. 91 00:04:38,660 --> 00:04:42,300 Sounds a little bit like Davy Jones goes punk. 92 00:04:42,300 --> 00:04:43,940 I know, right? 93 00:04:43,940 --> 00:04:48,460 You guys believe the 60s pop sound of that track? 94 00:04:48,460 --> 00:04:49,020 That's wild. 95 00:04:49,020 --> 00:04:52,460 That's already at number 58 on the UK singles list. 96 00:04:52,460 --> 00:04:54,820 That's their third single overall, first on the record. 97 00:04:54,820 --> 00:04:59,740 Yeah, I was kind of shocked at the pop appeal of this album. 98 00:04:59,740 --> 00:05:06,660 So Buzzcocks were formed by Howard Devoto and Pete Shelley in the mid-1970s. 99 00:05:06,660 --> 00:05:10,700 Quickly became a part of the growing punk rock scene, playing shows with Sex Pistols 100 00:05:10,700 --> 00:05:11,700 and The Clash. 101 00:05:11,700 --> 00:05:17,700 In those early days, Devoto left the band in 77 before this album came out, saying he 102 00:05:17,700 --> 00:05:22,100 wasn't really happy with the direction of where punk rock was headed. 103 00:05:22,100 --> 00:05:25,780 He formed Magazine, which was a decent group. 104 00:05:25,780 --> 00:05:29,220 Sounds like they were not sellouts and more true to punk. 105 00:05:29,220 --> 00:05:34,500 Yeah, I mean, how punk do you have to be to be calling punk a sellout in 1977? 106 00:05:34,500 --> 00:05:37,380 That's so punk. 107 00:05:37,380 --> 00:05:43,300 My clickbait headline for Another Music in a Different Kitchen is Buzzcocks drag pretty 108 00:05:43,300 --> 00:05:48,060 pop songs through the punk rock mud, but damn it, they're still pretty. 109 00:05:48,060 --> 00:05:56,420 I guess this is surprisingly polished and confident and hooky. 110 00:05:56,420 --> 00:05:59,220 I would say kind of pop punk record. 111 00:05:59,220 --> 00:06:03,220 I think what really surprised me was how repetitive some of these songs are. 112 00:06:03,220 --> 00:06:10,180 There's moments that are very almost hypnotic and then they kind of come along to the same 113 00:06:10,180 --> 00:06:15,100 vocal part or the guitar riff over and over again, even though the songs are all super 114 00:06:15,100 --> 00:06:17,140 short, like two or three minutes long. 115 00:06:17,140 --> 00:06:22,340 I read that Shelly, who ended up being the lead vocalist and guitarist, was a fan of 116 00:06:22,340 --> 00:06:26,860 Cannes guitarist Michael Carioli, which was surprising to me because you don't think of 117 00:06:26,860 --> 00:06:31,820 Cannes as being a big influence on punk rock music, but there it is. 118 00:06:31,820 --> 00:06:35,340 They're more of a psychedelic, would you say, Cannes? 119 00:06:35,340 --> 00:06:39,460 Psychedelic, like krautrock was like the term I hear used at them frequently. 120 00:06:39,460 --> 00:06:42,700 I just wanted to throw it out there for people that didn't know what Cannes was, which is 121 00:06:42,700 --> 00:06:43,900 probably a lot of people. 122 00:06:43,900 --> 00:06:48,820 I didn't even know who they were until like in the last year or so. 123 00:06:48,820 --> 00:06:49,820 I thought it was Cannes. 124 00:06:49,820 --> 00:06:55,700 All right, why don't we play another cut from the record. 125 00:06:55,700 --> 00:07:00,340 This is the Closer moving away from the pulse beat. 126 00:07:00,340 --> 00:07:11,740 Yeah, he still has that kind of that Johnny Rotten sort of snarl or whatever that affect 127 00:07:11,740 --> 00:07:12,740 is. 128 00:07:12,740 --> 00:07:15,500 Yeah, that sort of British nastiness. 129 00:07:15,500 --> 00:07:16,500 Yeah. 130 00:07:16,500 --> 00:07:19,820 Yeah, but it still sounds a little nice. 131 00:07:19,820 --> 00:07:23,820 Yeah, like he's not going to spit on you, but he might stick his tongue out at you. 132 00:07:23,820 --> 00:07:24,820 You know those sex pistols? 133 00:07:24,820 --> 00:07:26,300 They spit on their audience. 134 00:07:26,300 --> 00:07:31,900 Yeah, afterwards he might say, pardon me. 135 00:07:31,900 --> 00:07:37,220 So moving away from the pulse beat, it's actually five minutes and 40 seconds long, which is 136 00:07:37,220 --> 00:07:42,460 a huge deviation from a lot of the punk songs we've been listening to. 137 00:07:42,460 --> 00:07:47,860 Also kind of atypical because it's largely instrumental, so sort of moving away from that 138 00:07:47,860 --> 00:07:52,460 sort of traditional song format that a lot of the punk records do. 139 00:07:52,460 --> 00:07:56,940 And I mean, if you listen to the drums, I think that is the drummer, Mayer, John Mayer. 140 00:07:56,940 --> 00:07:57,940 It's not the James. 141 00:07:57,940 --> 00:07:58,940 John Mayer. 142 00:07:58,940 --> 00:07:59,940 John Mayer, yeah. 143 00:07:59,940 --> 00:08:00,940 Your body is a wonderland? 144 00:08:00,940 --> 00:08:01,940 Yeah. 145 00:08:01,940 --> 00:08:05,840 Wow, he's been around longer than I thought. 146 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:10,980 But if you listen to the drum pattern on that song, it sounds much more complex than anything 147 00:08:10,980 --> 00:08:14,340 you hear on the sex pistols record. 148 00:08:14,340 --> 00:08:18,620 So these guys are definitely pushing the boundaries of punk rock. 149 00:08:18,620 --> 00:08:23,100 And then the song goes quiet for a while. 150 00:08:23,100 --> 00:08:28,380 There's like a minute of silence and then it plays a reprise of a song called Boredom. 151 00:08:28,380 --> 00:08:32,140 So I don't know, is that one of the first kind of hidden tracks at the end? 152 00:08:32,140 --> 00:08:33,140 Yeah, I know. 153 00:08:33,140 --> 00:08:35,140 Well, I guess the Beatles did it, but yeah. 154 00:08:35,140 --> 00:08:39,980 On a punk rock record, you wouldn't expect that little level of artistry and consideration 155 00:08:39,980 --> 00:08:41,940 to the format against. 156 00:08:41,940 --> 00:08:47,340 One could say having a long song is not punk, but then one could also say in the punk space, 157 00:08:47,340 --> 00:08:49,180 having a long song is punk. 158 00:08:49,180 --> 00:08:50,180 Yeah, right. 159 00:08:50,180 --> 00:08:51,180 Right. 160 00:08:51,180 --> 00:08:54,020 Because then you're pushing against the conventions of punk. 161 00:08:54,020 --> 00:08:55,020 Exactly. 162 00:08:55,020 --> 00:08:58,900 I remember one of the, or maybe somebody talking about Green Day at the time, they said, you 163 00:08:58,900 --> 00:09:02,540 know, doing time of your life was the most punk rock thing they could do. 164 00:09:02,540 --> 00:09:04,660 Oh, I... 165 00:09:04,660 --> 00:09:06,780 Well, yeah. 166 00:09:06,780 --> 00:09:08,660 I guess. 167 00:09:08,660 --> 00:09:10,060 I suppose so. 168 00:09:10,060 --> 00:09:11,060 All right. 169 00:09:11,060 --> 00:09:17,140 So my clickbait headline is Buzzcocks serve punk rock hot and fresh out the kitchen. 170 00:09:17,140 --> 00:09:19,060 That's a reference to... 171 00:09:19,060 --> 00:09:20,060 Who is that? 172 00:09:20,060 --> 00:09:21,060 Is that R. Kelly? 173 00:09:21,060 --> 00:09:22,060 Oops. 174 00:09:22,060 --> 00:09:23,060 Oops, indeed. 175 00:09:23,060 --> 00:09:24,060 At least it wasn't P. Daddy. 176 00:09:24,060 --> 00:09:25,060 Wow. 177 00:09:25,060 --> 00:09:26,060 Either way. 178 00:09:26,060 --> 00:09:27,060 Anyway. 179 00:09:27,060 --> 00:09:28,060 Wow. 180 00:09:28,060 --> 00:09:29,060 Yeah. 181 00:09:29,060 --> 00:09:41,420 I guess I appreciate this album for how different it is from like a Sex Pistols record. 182 00:09:41,420 --> 00:09:43,500 There's just a lot more going on. 183 00:09:43,500 --> 00:09:46,900 I mean, I think there's actual songwriting going on. 184 00:09:46,900 --> 00:09:52,820 There's little nuances that make it something more, and it's really more of a pop record 185 00:09:52,820 --> 00:09:54,740 than a punk rock record. 186 00:09:54,740 --> 00:10:01,980 It feels like they are musicians that play punk rock rather than like the Sex Pistols 187 00:10:01,980 --> 00:10:08,180 sort of sounded like it wasn't musicians that were just punks that were using music as a 188 00:10:08,180 --> 00:10:09,180 way to rebel. 189 00:10:09,180 --> 00:10:10,180 You know? 190 00:10:10,180 --> 00:10:14,540 And I think that's at least what I was hearing throughout this record is a little bit more 191 00:10:14,540 --> 00:10:15,820 song craft. 192 00:10:15,820 --> 00:10:16,820 Yeah. 193 00:10:16,820 --> 00:10:18,420 Surprisingly well crafted. 194 00:10:18,420 --> 00:10:19,420 Yeah. 195 00:10:19,420 --> 00:10:20,420 And well recorded too. 196 00:10:20,420 --> 00:10:24,140 There's not a lot of grit and grime on this at all. 197 00:10:24,140 --> 00:10:25,140 It's fairly shiny. 198 00:10:25,140 --> 00:10:30,020 I know we talked about how shiny or not shiny, but just how good sounding that Sex Pistols 199 00:10:30,020 --> 00:10:31,020 record is. 200 00:10:31,020 --> 00:10:33,060 I would say this is kind of right in that same vein. 201 00:10:33,060 --> 00:10:34,900 Let's play another cut from the record here. 202 00:10:34,900 --> 00:10:37,900 This is the opener, Fast Cars. 203 00:10:37,900 --> 00:10:42,580 Oh, God. 204 00:10:42,580 --> 00:10:45,020 So Fast Cars written by Tracy Chapman. 205 00:10:45,020 --> 00:10:46,020 No. 206 00:10:46,020 --> 00:10:48,020 That's Fast Car, I think. 207 00:10:48,020 --> 00:10:49,020 Singular. 208 00:10:49,020 --> 00:10:50,020 Driving in your car. 209 00:10:50,020 --> 00:11:06,700 Punk rock Tracy Chapman right there. 210 00:11:06,700 --> 00:11:08,700 Luke Holmes has to do this version. 211 00:11:08,700 --> 00:11:11,700 Yeah, that'd be awesome. 212 00:11:11,700 --> 00:11:12,700 Oh boy. 213 00:11:12,700 --> 00:11:13,700 Yeah. 214 00:11:13,700 --> 00:11:16,220 So Fast Cars is the opener to the album. 215 00:11:16,220 --> 00:11:18,500 It's an anti-anthem for consumerism. 216 00:11:18,500 --> 00:11:20,700 Check box on the punk. 217 00:11:20,700 --> 00:11:24,540 Is this punk or not? 218 00:11:24,540 --> 00:11:29,340 It's high speed, punchy and delivers a take on society's obsession with possessions. 219 00:11:29,340 --> 00:11:34,100 A possession obsession, one might say. 220 00:11:34,100 --> 00:11:39,180 My clickbait headline to describe the album is, another music in a different kitchen where 221 00:11:39,180 --> 00:11:41,100 the buzz meets the cock. 222 00:11:41,100 --> 00:11:44,960 Fast, fierce and fearlessly catchy, punk with a bite. 223 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,300 So what I was most obsessed with was the band name. 224 00:11:48,300 --> 00:11:49,420 Okay. 225 00:11:49,420 --> 00:11:54,820 And apparently the name was inspired by a headline that was in a British TV magazine 226 00:11:54,820 --> 00:11:58,820 Time Out that said, get a buzz, cock. 227 00:11:58,820 --> 00:12:03,940 And buzz reflects a sense of excitement, energy or a thrill, right? 228 00:12:03,940 --> 00:12:06,220 This was in British parlance at the time. 229 00:12:06,220 --> 00:12:10,760 And cock was a was British slang for a young man with a cheeky or bold attitude. 230 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,060 So that's perfect then, right? 231 00:12:13,060 --> 00:12:14,300 Yeah, absolutely. 232 00:12:14,300 --> 00:12:19,100 It is perfect and it also sounds dirty enough that I think people probably were like, this 233 00:12:19,100 --> 00:12:20,380 is rebellious too. 234 00:12:20,380 --> 00:12:21,380 Right. 235 00:12:21,380 --> 00:12:24,660 I can't believe you had bite and cock in the same headline. 236 00:12:24,660 --> 00:12:28,520 I can believe it. 237 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:33,640 This is more melodic than raw bands of the era, which we've already kind of gotten into. 238 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:38,900 And it's like this take on Britpop of the 60s, but sped up to punk speeds. 239 00:12:38,900 --> 00:12:42,940 I feel like if they slowed it down and were wearing matching suits, they could have, you 240 00:12:42,940 --> 00:12:46,540 know, some of these songs could have made it to the top of the pops there. 241 00:12:46,540 --> 00:12:47,540 Yeah. 242 00:12:47,540 --> 00:12:49,620 Seriously, in a different time. 243 00:12:49,620 --> 00:12:53,500 Maybe maybe the buzzcocks were, you know, something else. 244 00:12:53,500 --> 00:12:54,500 Yeah. 245 00:12:54,500 --> 00:12:58,820 And you know, just that beats per minute that early punk in particular brought up, which 246 00:12:58,820 --> 00:13:00,060 gets the heart rate up. 247 00:13:00,060 --> 00:13:05,100 So just through the music, the energy is high, especially when it just is unrelenting, that 248 00:13:05,100 --> 00:13:06,540 speed that goes through. 249 00:13:06,540 --> 00:13:08,420 So yeah, I enjoyed it. 250 00:13:08,420 --> 00:13:09,900 It was a little more gentle. 251 00:13:09,900 --> 00:13:13,100 Some of our other picks and some of the other things we may have considered, but I think 252 00:13:13,100 --> 00:13:18,180 it's well executed and is pop punk before there was such a thing. 253 00:13:18,180 --> 00:13:19,180 Yeah. 254 00:13:19,180 --> 00:13:20,180 Yeah. 255 00:13:20,180 --> 00:13:21,180 Well said. 256 00:13:21,180 --> 00:13:25,820 So the band would have some success until about 1981 and where they would break up after 257 00:13:25,820 --> 00:13:29,820 a dispute with their record label, which is a pretty common theme here as we go through 258 00:13:29,820 --> 00:13:31,180 these punk rocker groups. 259 00:13:31,180 --> 00:13:36,140 Their songs have been covered by the likes of the Fastbacks and the Opspring. 260 00:13:36,140 --> 00:13:40,420 And yeah, this one made it into the 1001 albums you must hear before you die. 261 00:13:40,420 --> 00:13:41,420 Nice. 262 00:13:41,420 --> 00:13:42,420 Yeah. 263 00:13:42,420 --> 00:13:43,420 It's a missed list here. 264 00:13:43,420 --> 00:13:44,420 So yeah, congrats out to them. 265 00:13:44,420 --> 00:13:47,060 Definitely a really cool record if you're not familiar with the Buzzcocks. 266 00:13:47,060 --> 00:13:50,100 Please do check out another music in a different kitchen. 267 00:13:50,100 --> 00:13:51,100 All right. 268 00:13:51,100 --> 00:13:57,980 Before we get to our next punk rock album selection, why don't we hear a little bit 269 00:13:57,980 --> 00:14:01,020 from the worst podcast on Mars. 270 00:14:01,020 --> 00:14:03,180 I'm Amanda and that's Evan. 271 00:14:03,180 --> 00:14:04,180 Say hi, Evan. 272 00:14:04,180 --> 00:14:05,180 Hi, Evan. 273 00:14:05,180 --> 00:14:07,980 And we're the hosts of the worst podcast on Mars. 274 00:14:07,980 --> 00:14:10,340 This is the podcast that talks music. 275 00:14:10,340 --> 00:14:15,020 And on Fridays, we work our way through the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's list of 200 definitive 276 00:14:15,020 --> 00:14:16,020 albums. 277 00:14:16,020 --> 00:14:19,100 I do a bunch of research trying to figure out why it's on this list. 278 00:14:19,100 --> 00:14:23,580 And on Tuesdays, we do smaller episodes that are not part of the Rock and Roll Hall of 279 00:14:23,580 --> 00:14:24,620 Fame's list. 280 00:14:24,620 --> 00:14:27,460 And Evan, well, he just literally shows up. 281 00:14:27,460 --> 00:14:31,380 So if that's what you're into, please find us on Apple Music or Spotify. 282 00:14:31,380 --> 00:14:32,740 But not Mars. 283 00:14:32,740 --> 00:14:33,740 Yet. 284 00:14:33,740 --> 00:14:37,140 Evan always gets me with the but not Mars part. 285 00:14:37,140 --> 00:14:38,140 I like that. 286 00:14:38,140 --> 00:14:39,140 Yet. 287 00:14:39,140 --> 00:14:40,140 Wonder how we rank on Mars. 288 00:14:40,140 --> 00:14:41,580 Hopefully we're not the worst podcast. 289 00:14:41,580 --> 00:14:42,580 Right. 290 00:14:42,580 --> 00:14:44,180 Slightly above. 291 00:14:44,180 --> 00:14:46,940 Second worst podcast on Mars. 292 00:14:46,940 --> 00:14:54,260 So my pick for a classic punk rock album comes from a band called Wire. 293 00:14:54,260 --> 00:14:56,700 And their album is called Pink Flag. 294 00:14:56,700 --> 00:15:00,540 I had to get pink in there. 295 00:15:00,540 --> 00:15:01,540 Like Pink Floyd. 296 00:15:01,540 --> 00:15:02,540 Yes. 297 00:15:02,540 --> 00:15:03,540 Oh, yes. 298 00:15:03,540 --> 00:15:04,540 This is the PF. 299 00:15:04,540 --> 00:15:05,540 Yes. 300 00:15:05,540 --> 00:15:06,540 Pink Floyd. 301 00:15:06,540 --> 00:15:07,540 You're the worst. 302 00:15:07,540 --> 00:15:08,540 What? 303 00:15:08,540 --> 00:15:15,060 So it was released in November 1977. 304 00:15:15,060 --> 00:15:19,500 It's their debut album from the band formed in London in 1976. 305 00:15:19,500 --> 00:15:24,300 The lineup features vocalist, guitarist, and songwriter Colin Newman, bass guitarist and 306 00:15:24,300 --> 00:15:30,180 lyricist Graham Lewis, guitarist Bruce Gilbert, drummer Robert Gotabed or Gotabed. 307 00:15:30,180 --> 00:15:33,260 Gotabed, that's a great name. 308 00:15:33,260 --> 00:15:34,260 It's Gotabed. 309 00:15:34,260 --> 00:15:35,260 Gotabed. 310 00:15:35,260 --> 00:15:36,260 Love it. 311 00:15:36,260 --> 00:15:37,260 What does mommy say? 312 00:15:37,260 --> 00:15:38,260 Robert, go to bed. 313 00:15:38,260 --> 00:15:39,260 Talking to me, mom. 314 00:15:39,260 --> 00:15:40,260 What? 315 00:15:40,260 --> 00:15:41,260 So here's the opening cut of Reuters. 316 00:15:41,260 --> 00:16:02,580 Yeah, so that unlike other punk rock, which I think is more angry and rebellious, that 317 00:16:02,580 --> 00:16:07,980 one's starting to feel sort of a little sad and depressing, I think, which is what speaks 318 00:16:07,980 --> 00:16:08,980 to me. 319 00:16:08,980 --> 00:16:11,180 I know it does. 320 00:16:11,180 --> 00:16:16,140 So I assume the title refers to the news service writers. 321 00:16:16,140 --> 00:16:23,760 And so the lyrics seem to be like a reporter reporting on just the violence and destruction 322 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:24,760 in the world. 323 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,300 At three minutes and three seconds, it's actually one of the longer tracks on the album. 324 00:16:28,300 --> 00:16:29,300 Pretty remarkable. 325 00:16:29,300 --> 00:16:31,700 Yeah, jamming out on that one. 326 00:16:31,700 --> 00:16:35,700 So the album is 35 minutes in total and there's 21 songs. 327 00:16:35,700 --> 00:16:36,700 So that's efficiency. 328 00:16:36,700 --> 00:16:37,700 Yes, it is. 329 00:16:37,700 --> 00:16:38,700 It's impressive. 330 00:16:38,700 --> 00:16:39,700 Well, you see that many tracks, it's like, oh no. 331 00:16:39,700 --> 00:16:46,740 And then you look at the end, it says 36 minutes or whatever. 332 00:16:46,740 --> 00:16:48,620 It's like, oh, all right, I can do that. 333 00:16:48,620 --> 00:16:55,260 So my clickbait headline is Wire spits on punk rock conventions with control and detached 334 00:16:55,260 --> 00:16:56,260 intellectualism. 335 00:16:56,260 --> 00:17:00,500 We're going to find some parallels, I think, between the Buzzcocks and Wire and the way 336 00:17:00,500 --> 00:17:05,780 that they, I think both are kind of pushing punk rock to its limits. 337 00:17:05,780 --> 00:17:10,060 I actually have a quote from the vocalist, Colin Newman. 338 00:17:10,060 --> 00:17:13,020 He says, there's basically two views of Wire. 339 00:17:13,020 --> 00:17:17,900 You either think we are not a punk band or that we were the best punk band ever because 340 00:17:17,900 --> 00:17:19,980 we broke every single rule of punk. 341 00:17:19,980 --> 00:17:20,980 There you go. 342 00:17:20,980 --> 00:17:23,100 Just like I was saying with the Buzzcocks. 343 00:17:23,100 --> 00:17:24,100 Yeah. 344 00:17:24,100 --> 00:17:25,100 Yeah. 345 00:17:25,100 --> 00:17:28,940 So I think maybe one of the biggest ways they're different from some of the other punk rock 346 00:17:28,940 --> 00:17:34,620 is the lyrics are kind of, I think it's just more intellectual, I guess, and abstract. 347 00:17:34,620 --> 00:17:38,740 Although I'm not sure I understand what all of them mean, but it seems like there's more 348 00:17:38,740 --> 00:17:43,020 to them than some other punk rock artists. 349 00:17:43,020 --> 00:17:45,780 Yeah, they really are like poetic at times, I would say. 350 00:17:45,780 --> 00:17:49,020 Sort of like a beatnik sort of style, I guess. 351 00:17:49,020 --> 00:17:50,020 I don't know. 352 00:17:50,020 --> 00:17:51,020 The thinking man's punk. 353 00:17:51,020 --> 00:17:52,020 There you go. 354 00:17:52,020 --> 00:17:53,020 Yeah, exactly. 355 00:17:53,020 --> 00:17:54,020 Yeah. 356 00:17:54,020 --> 00:17:57,480 I mean, if you picture punk rock just being three guys picking up their instruments and 357 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,620 just going at it, I think these are more deliberate and thoughtful. 358 00:18:00,620 --> 00:18:04,700 I think I saw a film like that once. 359 00:18:04,700 --> 00:18:07,740 Well, let's hear another cut. 360 00:18:07,740 --> 00:18:09,740 This is One Two XU. 361 00:18:09,740 --> 00:18:10,740 One Two XU! 362 00:18:10,740 --> 00:18:21,900 The title of One Two XU apparently refers to the phrase 12 hours of a 12 hour day, ending 363 00:18:21,900 --> 00:18:27,860 it monotony and repetition of modern life, and it's probably the punkiest, although once 364 00:18:27,860 --> 00:18:34,180 you get past the 12XU, the rest of it gets a little bit more into the melodic sounded. 365 00:18:34,180 --> 00:18:40,060 Less than two minutes, pure energy, no frills, covered by countless punk bands and considered 366 00:18:40,060 --> 00:18:41,540 somewhat of an anthem. 367 00:18:41,540 --> 00:18:46,900 My clickbait headline to describe the album, the art punk blueprint that set the stage 368 00:18:46,900 --> 00:18:50,380 for Alternative Rocks Takeover a few years later. 369 00:18:50,380 --> 00:18:55,020 It captures the experimental spirit of the time, but it also incorporates those elements 370 00:18:55,020 --> 00:19:02,100 of art rock and minimalism and critiques of societal norms and encouraging listeners to 371 00:19:02,100 --> 00:19:03,980 embrace their own identity. 372 00:19:03,980 --> 00:19:08,180 It's less about society, politics and rebellion. 373 00:19:08,180 --> 00:19:16,380 So songs like Three Girl Rumba and X Lion Tamer and even Lowdown sound a lot like alt 374 00:19:16,380 --> 00:19:20,460 rock from eight years later, like early 80s alternative. 375 00:19:20,460 --> 00:19:26,900 And I really enjoyed this album as I felt like it was quietly forging ahead what was 376 00:19:26,900 --> 00:19:27,900 coming next. 377 00:19:27,900 --> 00:19:30,060 And I don't think they even knew it. 378 00:19:30,060 --> 00:19:34,620 Did you notice on Three Girl Rumba that it sounds a lot like Elastica's connection? 379 00:19:34,620 --> 00:19:35,620 Yes. 380 00:19:35,620 --> 00:19:37,620 It sounds exactly like Elastica's connection. 381 00:19:37,620 --> 00:19:38,620 Yeah. 382 00:19:38,620 --> 00:19:41,540 And in fact, they settled that out of court. 383 00:19:41,540 --> 00:19:42,540 Did they? 384 00:19:42,540 --> 00:19:43,540 Okay. 385 00:19:43,540 --> 00:19:44,540 Yes, they did. 386 00:19:44,540 --> 00:19:48,860 It was very obvious to me that Elastica took that. 387 00:19:48,860 --> 00:19:51,380 Is it a direct sample or did they just play this out? 388 00:19:51,380 --> 00:19:52,380 I don't think so. 389 00:19:52,380 --> 00:19:56,020 No, they paid tribute to it. 390 00:19:56,020 --> 00:19:57,020 Yes. 391 00:19:57,020 --> 00:19:58,020 Yes. 392 00:19:58,020 --> 00:20:00,260 Well, let's hear another cut. 393 00:20:00,260 --> 00:20:01,260 Here's Surgeon's Girl. 394 00:20:01,260 --> 00:20:11,060 I think that's the most punk rock track on the album. 395 00:20:11,060 --> 00:20:12,100 I don't know. 396 00:20:12,100 --> 00:20:15,860 I think consistently you're probably right. 397 00:20:15,860 --> 00:20:19,620 For its entire minute and whatever, how many seconds. 398 00:20:19,620 --> 00:20:20,620 Yeah. 399 00:20:20,620 --> 00:20:26,300 The one to X you with the way it kicks off is the most punk rock moment to me, but it 400 00:20:26,300 --> 00:20:28,860 doesn't hold as well as that song. 401 00:20:28,860 --> 00:20:29,860 I stand corrected. 402 00:20:29,860 --> 00:20:35,780 This song seems to be about pornography and a glossy, glossy mag. 403 00:20:35,780 --> 00:20:36,780 Yeah. 404 00:20:36,780 --> 00:20:40,580 I mean, like all the songs on this record, it kind of like starts out with kind of like 405 00:20:40,580 --> 00:20:44,940 a traditional punk rock song and then it kind of quickly descends into madness, I would 406 00:20:44,940 --> 00:20:45,940 say. 407 00:20:45,940 --> 00:20:53,020 Just this anthemic mantra that it curates that kind of goes through these deranged passages 408 00:20:53,020 --> 00:20:55,140 of Colin Newman. 409 00:20:55,140 --> 00:20:56,140 Hello Newman. 410 00:20:56,140 --> 00:20:57,140 So cool. 411 00:20:57,140 --> 00:20:59,700 So cool in my opinion. 412 00:20:59,700 --> 00:21:06,180 My clickbait headline for Pink Flag is, wire plant their pink flag squarely between punk 413 00:21:06,180 --> 00:21:10,260 rock and the avant-garde and no one's been able to take it down since. 414 00:21:10,260 --> 00:21:12,780 I think this is kind of a landmark album. 415 00:21:12,780 --> 00:21:18,420 It's supposed to be in mind you can be so inventive, I guess, in what's a relatively 416 00:21:18,420 --> 00:21:20,780 new genre, you know, 1977. 417 00:21:20,780 --> 00:21:24,380 This is still pretty early on punk rock and they just kind of like, okay, yeah, punk rock, 418 00:21:24,380 --> 00:21:28,060 we're going to go in this different direction and kind of like almost start another genre 419 00:21:28,060 --> 00:21:29,300 within the genre. 420 00:21:29,300 --> 00:21:30,300 So cool. 421 00:21:30,300 --> 00:21:31,300 It's just really impressive. 422 00:21:31,300 --> 00:21:37,020 I'd never heard of them to be totally honest and first listened to it, I was like, ooh, 423 00:21:37,020 --> 00:21:38,020 this is good. 424 00:21:38,020 --> 00:21:40,780 I need this one on the show, so I'm glad Don stuck with it. 425 00:21:40,780 --> 00:21:45,040 I had only heard of them because they opened for Depeche Mode when they played the Rose 426 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:46,140 Bowl in 1988. 427 00:21:46,140 --> 00:21:47,140 Yeah. 428 00:21:47,140 --> 00:21:51,620 Because they kind of, they went away in the early 80s and then came back and they've been 429 00:21:51,620 --> 00:21:53,180 going strong ever since. 430 00:21:53,180 --> 00:21:54,180 Nice. 431 00:21:54,180 --> 00:21:55,180 Yeah. 432 00:21:55,180 --> 00:21:59,500 This record sounds dirty and grimy and kind of rough around the edges. 433 00:21:59,500 --> 00:22:02,020 Deranged is the word I kept coming back to. 434 00:22:02,020 --> 00:22:05,060 It just sounds like there's a lot members are going through. 435 00:22:05,060 --> 00:22:06,060 Yeah. 436 00:22:06,060 --> 00:22:08,660 The direction is still pretty clean though. 437 00:22:08,660 --> 00:22:12,820 I think it's primarily the vocal that makes me feel like that punk rock energy. 438 00:22:12,820 --> 00:22:15,100 It's kind of rough and ragged around the edges. 439 00:22:15,100 --> 00:22:16,300 Yeah, but it's heady. 440 00:22:16,300 --> 00:22:19,420 I mean, it's not a simplistic record by any means. 441 00:22:19,420 --> 00:22:23,420 It's enjoyable initially, I think, but there's a lot to dig into and I don't even feel like 442 00:22:23,420 --> 00:22:28,660 I understand a lot of the songs by any means, but they're interesting and I sincerely appreciate 443 00:22:28,660 --> 00:22:29,660 that. 444 00:22:29,660 --> 00:22:34,140 Well, if you're looking to experience a groundbreaking album that redefined punk rock and laid the 445 00:22:34,140 --> 00:22:42,380 foundation for post-punk and indie music, dive into Wires Pink Flag. 446 00:22:42,380 --> 00:22:43,380 Excuse me. 447 00:22:43,380 --> 00:22:46,580 I'd like to ask you a few questions. 448 00:22:46,580 --> 00:22:48,060 All right. 449 00:22:48,060 --> 00:22:51,660 It's time for Deep Questions by Dom. 450 00:22:51,660 --> 00:22:54,220 Now, punk rock is about rebellion. 451 00:22:54,220 --> 00:22:57,100 So actually, I should rebel and not ask a question. 452 00:22:57,100 --> 00:22:58,100 Whoa. 453 00:22:58,100 --> 00:22:59,100 But. 454 00:22:59,100 --> 00:23:01,100 Yeah, it gets very confusing how to be punk. 455 00:23:01,100 --> 00:23:02,100 Yeah. 456 00:23:02,100 --> 00:23:03,100 Yeah. 457 00:23:03,100 --> 00:23:04,100 Do we even do a show? 458 00:23:04,100 --> 00:23:05,100 Yeah. 459 00:23:05,100 --> 00:23:06,100 Punk rock? 460 00:23:06,100 --> 00:23:09,380 Anyway, so when have you fellas been rebellious? 461 00:23:09,380 --> 00:23:13,580 Yeah, we're definitely big troublemakers over here. 462 00:23:13,580 --> 00:23:21,500 Three of the most bland vanilla dudes you could ever meet. 463 00:23:21,500 --> 00:23:23,180 That's what makes us punk rock. 464 00:23:23,180 --> 00:23:26,220 One time my mom told me to eat broccoli and I said, no. 465 00:23:26,220 --> 00:23:28,540 We had my peas instead. 466 00:23:28,540 --> 00:23:31,300 Well, I think we all were teenagers. 467 00:23:31,300 --> 00:23:36,420 I did have a bit of a rebellious streak when I was in those formative years. 468 00:23:36,420 --> 00:23:37,860 I remember going to the mall. 469 00:23:37,860 --> 00:23:42,060 The mall was a popular hangout spot in the mid-90s when I was growing up. 470 00:23:42,060 --> 00:23:46,580 There were a bunch of those little stores in the middle walk area of the mall there. 471 00:23:46,580 --> 00:23:51,740 There was one we'd always walk past that had this computer kiosk of some sort of product 472 00:23:51,740 --> 00:23:54,380 they were selling that was demoed on this computer screen. 473 00:23:54,380 --> 00:23:56,700 I was fairly into computers at the time. 474 00:23:56,700 --> 00:23:58,540 I was just starting to get into computers. 475 00:23:58,540 --> 00:23:59,540 That's rebellious right there. 476 00:23:59,540 --> 00:24:00,540 Yeah. 477 00:24:00,540 --> 00:24:01,540 I was just giving her a rebel. 478 00:24:01,540 --> 00:24:06,340 I figured out a way to reboot this computer and put a password on it so they would have 479 00:24:06,340 --> 00:24:09,940 to go and reset it to get it back to their program. 480 00:24:09,940 --> 00:24:13,060 My friends would like to strap the shop owner and I would go and reset it. 481 00:24:13,060 --> 00:24:14,060 It's a little hack. 482 00:24:14,060 --> 00:24:18,260 We would go back there like three weekends in a row and we're fucking with their computer 483 00:24:18,260 --> 00:24:19,260 every time. 484 00:24:19,260 --> 00:24:20,260 It was kind of fun. 485 00:24:20,260 --> 00:24:24,540 It was my little way of sticking it to capitalism and the man. 486 00:24:24,540 --> 00:24:27,260 I was a young cyberpunk. 487 00:24:27,260 --> 00:24:33,460 Yeah, I found out later that the kiosk guy got fired, his family starved and fell apart. 488 00:24:33,460 --> 00:24:34,460 Nice work. 489 00:24:34,460 --> 00:24:35,460 Wow. 490 00:24:35,460 --> 00:24:36,460 Cyber terrorism. 491 00:24:36,460 --> 00:24:37,460 Yeah. 492 00:24:37,460 --> 00:24:38,460 Take that, Claire's. 493 00:24:38,460 --> 00:24:44,900 Well, Claire's has survived. 494 00:24:44,900 --> 00:24:47,660 I can't think of anything quite as cool as that, honestly. 495 00:24:47,660 --> 00:24:48,660 I don't know. 496 00:24:48,660 --> 00:24:53,420 I mean, I was kind of a douche to my teachers when I was in middle school and high school 497 00:24:53,420 --> 00:24:54,420 as my way of rebelling. 498 00:24:54,420 --> 00:24:55,420 I was pretty much- 499 00:24:55,420 --> 00:24:57,420 Cracker judge in the back of the class? 500 00:24:57,420 --> 00:25:00,300 Yeah, you know, cracking wise as I like to say. 501 00:25:00,300 --> 00:25:05,500 But there was one teacher, it was earth science in eighth grade, Mr. Blowers. 502 00:25:05,500 --> 00:25:08,220 And we just did not get along. 503 00:25:08,220 --> 00:25:09,660 I'd mouth off all the time. 504 00:25:09,660 --> 00:25:15,220 I'd call him Mr. Blowers and he'd call my mom and make me stand outside the classroom 505 00:25:15,220 --> 00:25:16,900 and that kind of stuff. 506 00:25:16,900 --> 00:25:20,820 I was doing well in the class to start, but then I just got this attitude with the dude 507 00:25:20,820 --> 00:25:22,940 and it all fell to pieces. 508 00:25:22,940 --> 00:25:27,820 So Mr. Blowers was out for a few days because he had had a bicycle accident where apparently 509 00:25:27,820 --> 00:25:29,900 he had done a face plant. 510 00:25:29,900 --> 00:25:34,300 He came back in and he had all these scabs on his face and everyone's like, oh, welcome 511 00:25:34,300 --> 00:25:35,300 back. 512 00:25:35,300 --> 00:25:39,660 And I was like, looking good blowers. 513 00:25:39,660 --> 00:25:40,660 So cruel, man. 514 00:25:40,660 --> 00:25:47,180 I got in school suspension for a couple of days, which really was kind of nice because 515 00:25:47,180 --> 00:25:51,100 teachers came to you with your homework, cheerleaders delivered my lunch. 516 00:25:51,100 --> 00:25:57,780 So yeah, really no downside to. 517 00:25:57,780 --> 00:26:01,340 That's where a lot of bands get started, I think is an in school suspension hanging out 518 00:26:01,340 --> 00:26:04,540 with the other punks. 519 00:26:04,540 --> 00:26:09,620 I'm struggling to think of some, but other than trying to stage a walkout for not being 520 00:26:09,620 --> 00:26:15,860 able to wear shorts in April or something in high school. 521 00:26:15,860 --> 00:26:22,180 So these days, the way I'm most rebellious is I've started writing in cursive again. 522 00:26:22,180 --> 00:26:26,340 I just feel like the whole world is moving on. 523 00:26:26,340 --> 00:26:30,620 And actually, ironically, as soon as we were allowed to not write in cursive anymore in 524 00:26:30,620 --> 00:26:33,180 school, I immediately started printing again. 525 00:26:33,180 --> 00:26:36,980 But in recent years, I'm writing in cursive. 526 00:26:36,980 --> 00:26:41,860 I write on the board in my class and my students are like, what is that? 527 00:26:41,860 --> 00:26:42,860 Can they even read it? 528 00:26:42,860 --> 00:26:44,860 It's pretty different. 529 00:26:44,860 --> 00:26:45,860 Irrelevant. 530 00:26:45,860 --> 00:26:48,860 I was going to say. 531 00:26:48,860 --> 00:26:50,860 The kids can read your notes. 532 00:26:50,860 --> 00:26:53,260 Boy, you have to solve, man. 533 00:26:53,260 --> 00:26:54,260 Writing in cursive. 534 00:26:54,260 --> 00:26:56,260 How much more rebellious? 535 00:26:56,260 --> 00:26:57,500 That's so punk. 536 00:26:57,500 --> 00:26:58,500 So punk. 537 00:26:58,500 --> 00:26:59,500 All right. 538 00:26:59,500 --> 00:27:01,260 Well, what makes you a rebel? 539 00:27:01,260 --> 00:27:02,260 Let us know. 540 00:27:02,260 --> 00:27:09,340 Hit us up on Instagram and Facebook or leave a comment on our website, AlbumNerds.com. 541 00:27:09,340 --> 00:27:14,740 So I'm going with stiff little fingers formed in 1977. 542 00:27:14,740 --> 00:27:16,380 Wouldn't have been stiff middle fingers. 543 00:27:16,380 --> 00:27:17,980 Wouldn't that have been even more rebellious? 544 00:27:17,980 --> 00:27:18,980 Yes. 545 00:27:18,980 --> 00:27:20,180 Belfast, Northern Ireland. 546 00:27:20,180 --> 00:27:23,780 They began as a rock covers band called Highway Star. 547 00:27:23,780 --> 00:27:29,340 So the band is Jake Burns on vocals and guitar, Henry Clooney on guitar and vocals, Allie 548 00:27:29,340 --> 00:27:33,580 McMordy on bass, and Brian Falloon on drums. 549 00:27:33,580 --> 00:27:35,220 I like that Falloon. 550 00:27:35,220 --> 00:27:40,580 The album is Inflammable Material, recorded in 1978, released in 1979. 551 00:27:40,580 --> 00:27:51,820 Why don't we listen to a little bit of Suspect Device. 552 00:27:51,820 --> 00:27:58,580 So that song probably should be best remembered for being the first time anyone said sus. 553 00:27:58,580 --> 00:28:01,100 Instead of suspect. 554 00:28:01,100 --> 00:28:04,540 Which now the kids are saying. 555 00:28:04,540 --> 00:28:09,420 The album and that song captured the energy tension and raw rebellion of Northern Ireland 556 00:28:09,420 --> 00:28:12,100 during the Troubles. 557 00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:13,260 The Troubles. 558 00:28:13,260 --> 00:28:15,020 Which we have touched on before. 559 00:28:15,020 --> 00:28:19,020 That's what they called the battle between the Protestants and the Catholics there in 560 00:28:19,020 --> 00:28:20,020 Northern Ireland. 561 00:28:20,020 --> 00:28:25,460 It was kind of the polite way of referring to the sort of war that was happening. 562 00:28:25,460 --> 00:28:30,320 Clearly very Sex Pistols forward in terms of the delivery a couple of years after the 563 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:31,940 Sex Pistols did their thing. 564 00:28:31,940 --> 00:28:32,940 More like bazookas. 565 00:28:32,940 --> 00:28:36,140 God, you're terrible today. 566 00:28:36,140 --> 00:28:41,540 The song Suspect Device, the title was referencing the heightened suspicion and fear of Northern 567 00:28:41,540 --> 00:28:46,220 Ireland at the time of Suspect Devices or bombs. 568 00:28:46,220 --> 00:28:50,220 It's powerful critique of the oppressive environment that people were living in at the time. 569 00:28:50,220 --> 00:28:53,340 Clickbait headline I came up with for this one. 570 00:28:53,340 --> 00:28:57,300 Inflammable Material will make you raise a pint to punk's rebellion. 571 00:28:57,300 --> 00:29:01,380 More than just the Troubles, it's a celebration of youth and defiance. 572 00:29:01,380 --> 00:29:07,020 So it portrays those harsh realities of the Troubles and the frustrations of the youth 573 00:29:07,020 --> 00:29:11,420 caught in those sectarian divisions, the Catholics and the Protestants. 574 00:29:11,420 --> 00:29:15,740 While five of the songs directly address the Troubles, the album also covered other typical 575 00:29:15,740 --> 00:29:17,380 punk themes. 576 00:29:17,380 --> 00:29:21,400 Just reflecting on life in Belfast as youth during this period. 577 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,120 So why don't we jump into another track? 578 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,120 This one's called Rough Trade. 579 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:41,140 How freaking punk rock is it to make a song about your record label that's released by 580 00:29:41,140 --> 00:29:42,140 that record label? 581 00:29:42,140 --> 00:29:43,940 I love it. 582 00:29:43,940 --> 00:29:49,460 Well they had been signed to Island Records briefly and dropped right before the album. 583 00:29:49,460 --> 00:29:55,180 So my clickbait headline for Inflammable Material is Johnny O'Rotten. 584 00:29:55,180 --> 00:29:59,220 He'd better himself. 585 00:29:59,220 --> 00:30:00,220 That's pretty brilliant, Andy. 586 00:30:00,220 --> 00:30:02,940 I gotta give you props on that one. 587 00:30:02,940 --> 00:30:07,180 Oh, I'm Johnny O'Rotten. 588 00:30:07,180 --> 00:30:11,340 I mean, definitely you can draw some pretty direct lines between them and Sex Pistols. 589 00:30:11,340 --> 00:30:13,980 But that's not a bad thing by any means. 590 00:30:13,980 --> 00:30:17,820 Maybe Stiff Little Fingers has a slightly bit more range on this album. 591 00:30:17,820 --> 00:30:18,820 I agree. 592 00:30:18,820 --> 00:30:22,260 There are some tracks that maybe are not quite straight ahead punk. 593 00:30:22,260 --> 00:30:25,500 For example, Barbed Wire Love, a middle of a record. 594 00:30:25,500 --> 00:30:26,500 Yeah, I love that song. 595 00:30:26,500 --> 00:30:30,260 It's like another 60s pop song, which will do all vocals and stuff. 596 00:30:30,260 --> 00:30:35,260 Yeah, even further across that line where it just totally just sounds like that, barbed 597 00:30:35,260 --> 00:30:37,500 wire love. 598 00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:44,660 It's more that it's barbed wired, which is more punk and more kind of probably buildings 599 00:30:44,660 --> 00:30:47,660 with fencing around them in Northern Ireland and stuff. 600 00:30:47,660 --> 00:30:48,940 Stiff Little has that. 601 00:30:48,940 --> 00:30:52,740 Yeah, but yeah, it sounds like a Shuby Doo Wop song. 602 00:30:52,740 --> 00:30:57,460 There's a few songs that are even a little bit more straight ahead rock, maybe more like 603 00:30:57,460 --> 00:30:58,460 Clash style. 604 00:30:58,460 --> 00:31:04,900 Yeah, which I guess the Clash were their main influence and reason for going punk. 605 00:31:04,900 --> 00:31:09,020 Yeah, you can definitely hear the influence from those two groups in particular. 606 00:31:09,020 --> 00:31:14,940 I don't know, the focus on the conflict in Northern Ireland is very apparent on the record. 607 00:31:14,940 --> 00:31:20,420 It almost feels like it's so focused on it, it gets a little bit in the way at times. 608 00:31:20,420 --> 00:31:25,100 Yeah, see what I thought was important about that was if you live in Belfast at that time, 609 00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:26,820 that would dominate your everyday. 610 00:31:26,820 --> 00:31:31,180 It would dominate the news, it would dominate what streets you walked on. 611 00:31:31,180 --> 00:31:36,900 So in a way, for me, if we're comparing to the Sex Pistols, it felt more entrenched in 612 00:31:36,900 --> 00:31:37,900 something painful. 613 00:31:37,900 --> 00:31:43,020 Yeah, it's a little more tangible the things you're talking about, I guess. 614 00:31:43,020 --> 00:31:47,300 Yeah, I mean, it's a cool record and it does feel a little bit of a history lesson, at 615 00:31:47,300 --> 00:31:49,060 least for us in the States here. 616 00:31:49,060 --> 00:31:54,860 Yeah, the record itself, it sounds very, very raw in the way that Sex Pistols do. 617 00:31:54,860 --> 00:32:00,220 I'm surprised how loud the drums are, I guess, they're really forward in the mix. 618 00:32:00,220 --> 00:32:06,220 And it helps lead to that aggression and that raw energy that they bring. 619 00:32:06,220 --> 00:32:09,780 That whole beats per minute thing we were talking about earlier of punk of this era 620 00:32:09,780 --> 00:32:13,340 where it just amp up the speed to make it more frenetic. 621 00:32:13,340 --> 00:32:15,260 Yeah, it's chugging along for sure. 622 00:32:15,260 --> 00:32:19,060 All right, so why don't we jump into a little bit of Alternative Lobster. 623 00:32:19,060 --> 00:32:31,540 At first, I thought it was Alternative Lobster, I'm glad it wasn't. 624 00:32:31,540 --> 00:32:37,700 So that song was written by Jake Burns in response to a request from a Northern Irish 625 00:32:37,700 --> 00:32:40,800 fanzine called Alternative Ulster. 626 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:45,980 So the song addresses the boredom and lack of opportunities for young people in Belfast, 627 00:32:45,980 --> 00:32:49,180 as well as the oppressive presence of police and military. 628 00:32:49,180 --> 00:32:54,100 So yeah, driving guitars and you've got Burns, again, it's like a snarl. 629 00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:55,100 Yeah. 630 00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:56,100 Yeah. 631 00:32:56,100 --> 00:32:57,100 He's a good snarl. 632 00:32:57,100 --> 00:32:58,100 Yeah. 633 00:32:58,100 --> 00:33:03,100 So my clickbait headline is, stiff little fingers, inflammable material, punk rock so 634 00:33:03,100 --> 00:33:08,180 hot it will set your arse on fire, handle with fucking care. 635 00:33:08,180 --> 00:33:10,220 Oh yeah, I know. 636 00:33:10,220 --> 00:33:15,980 Yeah, they'd say the F word on this album, which was unusual at that time, at least in 637 00:33:15,980 --> 00:33:16,980 America. 638 00:33:16,980 --> 00:33:20,620 Yeah, I just want to talk about Jake Burns vocals a little bit. 639 00:33:20,620 --> 00:33:28,980 So his voice is a little different from the Buzzcocks guy, Shelly and Johnny Rotten, maybe 640 00:33:28,980 --> 00:33:33,500 more like a raspy thing kind of going on. 641 00:33:33,500 --> 00:33:36,580 Like somebody described it as like a permanent sore throat. 642 00:33:36,580 --> 00:33:37,580 Yeah. 643 00:33:37,580 --> 00:33:40,580 You probably had one. 644 00:33:40,580 --> 00:33:41,580 Yeah. 645 00:33:41,580 --> 00:33:48,740 It just seems to have, it's just much more aggressive than the other two records. 646 00:33:48,740 --> 00:33:51,700 And I mean, part of it is the voice, part of it is the drums. 647 00:33:51,700 --> 00:33:52,700 Subject matter. 648 00:33:52,700 --> 00:33:53,700 Yeah. 649 00:33:53,700 --> 00:33:54,700 Yeah. 650 00:33:54,700 --> 00:33:59,060 I think the Northern Ireland stuff probably elevates it in that way. 651 00:33:59,060 --> 00:34:03,460 When Stiff Little Fingers sent out their debut single Suspect Device, apparently they wrapped 652 00:34:03,460 --> 00:34:06,340 the cassette to look like a bomb as a prank. 653 00:34:06,340 --> 00:34:08,340 Oh my gosh. 654 00:34:08,340 --> 00:34:09,340 Wow. 655 00:34:09,340 --> 00:34:10,340 Isn't that like... 656 00:34:10,340 --> 00:34:14,820 Well, that would be jailable these days, but a radio station thinking it was real actually 657 00:34:14,820 --> 00:34:18,660 threw it in a bucket of water to try to defuse it. 658 00:34:18,660 --> 00:34:19,780 That's the word anyway. 659 00:34:19,780 --> 00:34:20,780 During that time. 660 00:34:20,780 --> 00:34:21,780 I mean, that yikes. 661 00:34:21,780 --> 00:34:22,780 Yeah, right. 662 00:34:22,780 --> 00:34:28,180 A couple of their songs, Wasted Life is a good track. 663 00:34:28,180 --> 00:34:33,740 It's an anti-violence stance addressing those who pressure young people to fight to not 664 00:34:33,740 --> 00:34:34,740 do it. 665 00:34:34,740 --> 00:34:40,180 And interesting cover, Bob Marley's Johnny Was, and they adapted the song with a punk 666 00:34:40,180 --> 00:34:41,180 energy. 667 00:34:41,180 --> 00:34:46,660 And I think that's one of the first times that reggae kind of made its way into punk, 668 00:34:46,660 --> 00:34:50,340 which of course later on Scott and all that stuff came. 669 00:34:50,340 --> 00:34:52,940 So I thought that was a cool moment too. 670 00:34:52,940 --> 00:34:54,540 Yeah, very interesting. 671 00:34:54,540 --> 00:34:58,100 So Inflammable Material is a landmark punk album. 672 00:34:58,100 --> 00:35:02,140 I hadn't heard before, but I got really into it with every listen. 673 00:35:02,140 --> 00:35:08,340 And it captures that raw anger and resilience of a generation living amid some major upheaval 674 00:35:08,340 --> 00:35:09,340 in their society. 675 00:35:09,340 --> 00:35:12,200 And I think there are a lot of people out there today that know what that's like. 676 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:18,340 So it proves that punk's power to be both rebellious and relevant started early and 677 00:35:18,340 --> 00:35:19,340 continues today. 678 00:35:19,340 --> 00:35:23,580 So go check out Stiff Little Fingers, Inflammable Material. 679 00:35:23,580 --> 00:35:25,580 Can you dig it? 680 00:35:25,580 --> 00:35:28,580 Can you dig it? 681 00:35:28,580 --> 00:35:31,580 Can you dig it? 682 00:35:31,580 --> 00:35:33,580 All right, fellas. 683 00:35:33,580 --> 00:35:38,820 Well, I know we've all been holding our middle fingers in the air all week, rebelling against 684 00:35:38,820 --> 00:35:39,820 the man. 685 00:35:39,820 --> 00:35:40,820 Getting kind of stiff. 686 00:35:40,820 --> 00:35:41,820 Yeah. 687 00:35:41,820 --> 00:35:43,060 Yeah, my arthritis is acting up from it. 688 00:35:43,060 --> 00:35:46,700 Well, I hope you didn't rebel against the podcast because you were supposed to be digging 689 00:35:46,700 --> 00:35:47,700 some other things. 690 00:35:47,700 --> 00:35:48,700 Oh. 691 00:35:48,700 --> 00:35:49,700 What were you digging? 692 00:35:49,700 --> 00:35:50,700 Oh, yeah. 693 00:35:50,700 --> 00:35:58,740 I got a couple of things here in my hastily constructed brown paper package bag that I 694 00:35:58,740 --> 00:36:01,660 decided not to all the radio stations. 695 00:36:01,660 --> 00:36:05,940 I thought you were going to say that you had a few things safety pinned to your face. 696 00:36:05,940 --> 00:36:08,940 Okay, that's a good one, sir. 697 00:36:08,940 --> 00:36:09,940 All right. 698 00:36:09,940 --> 00:36:12,340 Let's start out with something actually from Ireland. 699 00:36:12,340 --> 00:36:14,180 Talking about the folk rock group Villagers. 700 00:36:14,180 --> 00:36:17,460 They have an album out called That Golden Time. 701 00:36:17,460 --> 00:36:20,940 This is the solo project of Connor J. O'Brien. 702 00:36:20,940 --> 00:36:23,660 Let's play a little bit of You Lucky One. 703 00:36:23,660 --> 00:36:31,380 It's like one of those records that I would love to dismiss, but there's just so many 704 00:36:31,380 --> 00:36:32,380 good moments on it. 705 00:36:32,380 --> 00:36:34,020 I keep coming back to it. 706 00:36:34,020 --> 00:36:36,380 It's kind of dark, brooding, but very catchy. 707 00:36:36,380 --> 00:36:39,700 There's a lot of really memorable songs on there. 708 00:36:39,700 --> 00:36:43,980 And the other one I wanted to throw out that I've been digging just released in the last 709 00:36:43,980 --> 00:36:47,620 week here from artist Peter Perret, I believe is how you say his name. 710 00:36:47,620 --> 00:36:49,140 The album is called The Cleansing. 711 00:36:49,140 --> 00:36:54,460 This is the third solo studio album for the English songwriter who was in the group The 712 00:36:54,460 --> 00:37:00,780 Only Ones, which were a 70s punk rock group known for another girl, another planet was 713 00:37:00,780 --> 00:37:03,740 the name of their big hit back in the 70s there. 714 00:37:03,740 --> 00:37:05,500 Let's play the opening cut from the new album. 715 00:37:05,500 --> 00:37:07,540 This is I Want to Go with Dignity. 716 00:37:07,540 --> 00:37:14,420 I want to always stay my welcome. 717 00:37:14,420 --> 00:37:17,420 I've seen about getting older and facing death. 718 00:37:17,420 --> 00:37:18,420 Yes. 719 00:37:18,420 --> 00:37:19,420 I'll do it eventually. 720 00:37:19,420 --> 00:37:20,420 Yeah. 721 00:37:20,420 --> 00:37:21,420 That seems to be very, very much. 722 00:37:21,420 --> 00:37:24,420 Want to do it with Dignity or diggity? 723 00:37:24,420 --> 00:37:26,420 No diggity. 724 00:37:26,420 --> 00:37:30,900 That's very moody, groovy, artsy rock record there, but enjoyed it quite a bit. 725 00:37:30,900 --> 00:37:32,820 What you been digging on down? 726 00:37:32,820 --> 00:37:37,700 Well, I've been spending a lot of time with the new album from The Cure called Songs of 727 00:37:37,700 --> 00:37:38,700 a Lost World. 728 00:37:38,700 --> 00:37:44,180 But on the day of its release, they actually did a live stream of a show that they did 729 00:37:44,180 --> 00:37:46,380 in Troxy in London. 730 00:37:46,380 --> 00:37:51,700 So they performed the entire album as the first set and then they did a second set and 731 00:37:51,700 --> 00:37:52,820 then like two encore. 732 00:37:52,820 --> 00:37:54,740 So it's like 31 songs. 733 00:37:54,740 --> 00:37:55,740 It's still available streaming. 734 00:37:55,740 --> 00:37:57,740 So you should check it out on YouTube. 735 00:37:57,740 --> 00:38:00,580 Just search The Cure Songs of a Lost World live stream. 736 00:38:00,580 --> 00:38:03,340 And it just sounds really good. 737 00:38:03,340 --> 00:38:05,340 Here's a clip from the song, End Song. 738 00:38:05,340 --> 00:38:11,820 It's like a thing they do where they kind of like combine a word with song in every 739 00:38:11,820 --> 00:38:12,820 album. 740 00:38:12,820 --> 00:38:14,660 They've done it a few times, yeah. 741 00:38:14,660 --> 00:38:16,420 Because there's two on this album. 742 00:38:16,420 --> 00:38:18,380 It was Warsong and Plainsong. 743 00:38:18,380 --> 00:38:20,220 Although Warsong might be two words. 744 00:38:20,220 --> 00:38:21,220 Cool. 745 00:38:21,220 --> 00:38:22,220 Yeah. 746 00:38:22,220 --> 00:38:23,700 I mean, I have listened to the album once. 747 00:38:23,700 --> 00:38:28,340 A little more instrumental time spent than I was expecting, but I'll run through it a 748 00:38:28,340 --> 00:38:31,060 few more times before I make it, have an opinion on it. 749 00:38:31,060 --> 00:38:32,060 Yeah. 750 00:38:32,060 --> 00:38:35,380 And also, I figure I'll just keep throwing out new holiday records. 751 00:38:35,380 --> 00:38:36,380 Great. 752 00:38:36,380 --> 00:38:37,380 Boy. 753 00:38:37,380 --> 00:38:41,460 Jimmy Fallon, perhaps you've heard of him, the host of The Tonight Show. 754 00:38:41,460 --> 00:38:45,580 He has an album of fun songs called Holiday Seasoning. 755 00:38:45,580 --> 00:38:49,820 Features a bunch of stars, Meghan Trainor, Justin Timberlake, The Roots, Jonas Brothers, 756 00:38:49,820 --> 00:38:50,820 Dolly Parton. 757 00:38:50,820 --> 00:38:55,380 But the biggest one is Weird Al Yankovic. 758 00:38:55,380 --> 00:38:59,340 So he does a song called New Year's Eve Polka 5-4-3-2-1. 759 00:38:59,340 --> 00:39:04,100 I just like that. 760 00:39:04,100 --> 00:39:08,180 I would do that. 761 00:39:08,180 --> 00:39:12,660 I just like that he mentioned the Twilight Zone marathon. 762 00:39:12,660 --> 00:39:14,780 I do that all the time on years. 763 00:39:14,780 --> 00:39:15,980 What are you digging, dude? 764 00:39:15,980 --> 00:39:20,660 I went digging around looking for something maybe a little heavier. 765 00:39:20,660 --> 00:39:24,660 And of course, we're not too far away from Halloween being a couple of weeks ago. 766 00:39:24,660 --> 00:39:27,380 So there's still a lot of spooky stuff getting released. 767 00:39:27,380 --> 00:39:33,660 New Skeletal Faces released an album called Until the Night on November 1st, 2024. 768 00:39:33,660 --> 00:39:35,580 Let's listen to a little bit of Raise the Dead. 769 00:39:35,580 --> 00:39:47,900 So they're a trio that channels the eerie spirit of death rock with metal and punk elements. 770 00:39:47,900 --> 00:39:52,780 Also kind of a sunset strip 80s metal vibe throughout. 771 00:39:52,780 --> 00:39:58,740 This album weaves goth punk and metal into a fierce atmospheric journey. 772 00:39:58,740 --> 00:40:01,460 I've had listed twice so far. 773 00:40:01,460 --> 00:40:02,460 It's pretty cool. 774 00:40:02,460 --> 00:40:03,620 Sounds interesting. 775 00:40:03,620 --> 00:40:09,260 And then of course, being the album collecting punk that I am, I do have a copy of a classic 776 00:40:09,260 --> 00:40:15,900 punk record, The Clash London Calling, which came out at the very end of 1979. 777 00:40:15,900 --> 00:40:17,900 Let's listen to a little bit of the title track. 778 00:40:17,900 --> 00:40:28,100 Now of course, Trey O'Blazer's The Punk Rock, politically charged lyrics and genre defying 779 00:40:28,100 --> 00:40:30,740 sound kind of post-punk in the making. 780 00:40:30,740 --> 00:40:35,420 I think they kind of not only were important in the movement of punk, they helped move 781 00:40:35,420 --> 00:40:36,420 it forward. 782 00:40:36,420 --> 00:40:39,960 I picked up this copy at a record store years ago. 783 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,860 It was like five bucks. 784 00:40:42,860 --> 00:40:46,140 The discs are in good shape, but the packaging not so much. 785 00:40:46,140 --> 00:40:49,020 So I've had to do some cleaning and maintenance, but it's playable. 786 00:40:49,020 --> 00:40:53,420 It's a little crackly, but it's nice to have the real thing in my collection. 787 00:40:53,420 --> 00:40:56,860 Yeah, we got to do a full review on that one sometime. 788 00:40:56,860 --> 00:40:58,580 Not too far away. 789 00:40:58,580 --> 00:40:59,580 All right. 790 00:40:59,580 --> 00:41:00,580 So what are you digging? 791 00:41:00,580 --> 00:41:01,580 Let us know. 792 00:41:01,580 --> 00:41:03,980 Join us on the socials, Facebook, Instagram and threads. 793 00:41:03,980 --> 00:41:09,980 Also on our website, albumnerds.com. 794 00:41:09,980 --> 00:41:16,780 It will be a discovery of extraordinary value. 795 00:41:16,780 --> 00:41:21,460 Well, it's about that time on the show and I'm reminded of the great turkeys musician, 796 00:41:21,460 --> 00:41:22,460 Joe Strummer. 797 00:41:22,460 --> 00:41:24,060 Do you guys know Joe Strummer was from Turkey? 798 00:41:24,060 --> 00:41:25,060 I do not. 799 00:41:25,060 --> 00:41:27,060 I believe they say Turkey-ay now. 800 00:41:27,060 --> 00:41:28,060 Turkey-ay. 801 00:41:28,060 --> 00:41:29,060 Excuse me. 802 00:41:29,060 --> 00:41:30,060 Yeah. 803 00:41:30,060 --> 00:41:32,500 Well, you know, Turkey gets confusing for some. 804 00:41:32,500 --> 00:41:34,500 Gobble gobble and whatnot. 805 00:41:34,500 --> 00:41:37,860 Well, Mr. Strummer of the clash, obviously. 806 00:41:37,860 --> 00:41:41,300 He said punk rock isn't something you grow out of. 807 00:41:41,300 --> 00:41:46,100 Punk rock is an attitude and the essence of that attitude is give us some truth. 808 00:41:46,100 --> 00:41:47,740 There you go. 809 00:41:47,740 --> 00:41:50,140 With that in mind, let's bring out my friend and your modbot. 810 00:41:50,140 --> 00:42:00,140 We'll see what we'll be talking about on next week's episode. 811 00:42:00,140 --> 00:42:01,620 Growing up isn't easy. 812 00:42:01,620 --> 00:42:06,440 Next time you'll explore albums that capture the trials, triumphs and messy emotions of 813 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:07,900 finding your way. 814 00:42:07,900 --> 00:42:11,420 Buckle up for a journey through coming of age classics. 815 00:42:11,420 --> 00:42:14,380 So growing up, that'll be interesting. 816 00:42:14,380 --> 00:42:20,400 Be chasing albums that have themes of growing up, getting old. 817 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:21,400 Coming of age. 818 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:22,400 This is growing up. 819 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:23,400 I call it. 820 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:24,400 Yeah, you got it. 821 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:25,400 All right. 822 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:30,660 Well, what's your favorite punk rock record? 823 00:42:30,660 --> 00:42:32,260 What's your favorite coming of age record? 824 00:42:32,260 --> 00:42:33,260 What else are you listening to? 825 00:42:33,260 --> 00:42:36,940 Leave a comment on our website or email us at podcast at albumnerds.com. 826 00:42:36,940 --> 00:42:42,340 You can follow us on Facebook, Instagram and threads at Album Nerds and also please subscribe, 827 00:42:42,340 --> 00:42:44,620 rate and review on your favorite podcast app. 828 00:42:44,620 --> 00:42:49,260 And if you'd like to support the show, you can do so via PayPal at albumnerds.com slash 829 00:42:49,260 --> 00:42:50,260 support. 830 00:42:50,260 --> 00:42:53,620 Thank you so much for joining us here on the Album Nerds podcast. 831 00:42:53,620 --> 00:42:57,260 We'll catch you next time when we all try to learn how to grow up. 832 00:42:57,260 --> 00:42:59,260 It's about time, man. 833 00:42:59,260 --> 00:43:00,260 Yeah. 834 00:43:00,260 --> 00:43:01,260 Next listen, everybody. 835 00:43:01,260 --> 00:43:02,260 Catch you next week. 836 00:43:02,260 --> 00:43:07,260 And the cats in the cradle and the silver spoon. 837 00:43:07,260 --> 00:43:10,260 Little boy blue and the man in the moon. 838 00:43:10,260 --> 00:43:13,260 Try to get through that one without crying, huh? 839 00:43:13,260 --> 00:43:14,260 Yeah. 840 00:43:14,260 --> 00:43:15,260 We'll get together then. 841 00:43:15,260 --> 00:43:16,260 You know. 842 00:43:16,260 --> 00:43:17,260 We'll have a good time then. 843 00:43:17,260 --> 00:43:32,260 Bye.