1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,520 Welcome to the Album Nerds podcast with your hosts, Andy, Don, and Dude. 2 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:14,520 It is summertime. 3 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,720 Welcome to the Album Nerds podcast. 4 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:18,720 I'm Dude. 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:23,280 I've got Andy and Don with me celebrating this beautiful summer. 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:24,280 Don, how are you guys doing? 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:25,280 Doing well, man. 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,800 Happy July to everybody. 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:34,760 What better way to celebrate the blazing summer sun of Don than talking about a very dark, 10 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:36,080 kind of depressing record? 11 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:43,200 Yes, but kind of an imploding star, a supernova. 12 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,960 It has taken a dark turn as we knew it would. 13 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,160 Alright, so this is the Album Nerds podcast. 14 00:00:50,160 --> 00:00:54,440 We love albums, the album format, and each other very deeply. 15 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,320 Let's just think about that for a minute. 16 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,560 We got a great show for you today. 17 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:06,840 We are going to explore in depth the album Black Star by David Bowie. 18 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,960 Don's going to give us a deep question. 19 00:01:08,960 --> 00:01:13,080 Then we're going to have some shout outs to some albums and album related items that we're 20 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,920 digging and then we'll get into what we'll be talking about on the next episode. 21 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:21,280 But this time it's all about that black star. 22 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:27,680 I proclaim this the summer of Donnie Lakey. 23 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,520 That's what I'm talking about. 24 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:37,240 So the summer of Don continues, although that sun has been covered up by a black star. 25 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:43,360 As you might already know, I went back into the Album Nerds archives to the time before 26 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:44,360 I was on the show. 27 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:48,720 I made a list of records I'd like to talk about, gave it to Wodbot. 28 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,180 It was put on the wheel of musical discovery. 29 00:01:52,180 --> 00:01:59,200 This week it came up David Bowie's Black Star, an album you guys only briefly mentioned during 30 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:14,400 the year end countdown episode back in 2017, episode 11. 31 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:19,900 So Black Star is the 26th and final studio album for David Bowie, born David Robert Jones 32 00:02:19,900 --> 00:02:22,360 in 1947 in London, England. 33 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:27,960 He worked with longtime co-producer Tony Visconti and a bunch of jazz musicians. 34 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:32,240 Reportly Bowie had been listening to Kendrick Lamar and Death Grips. 35 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,840 According to Visconti, they were trying to avoid rock and roll. 36 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:41,480 And I guess most famously, Bowie died two days after the release of this album from 37 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,040 liver cancer. 38 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,360 Let's hear the title track. 39 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:45,360 This is Black Star. 40 00:02:45,360 --> 00:03:01,640 Yeah, the middle part is so different from the beginning of the tune. 41 00:03:01,640 --> 00:03:05,200 Yeah, that song evolves a lot over the nine minutes. 42 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:06,200 It better. 43 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:07,200 Right. 44 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:08,200 Yeah. 45 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:13,200 So Black Star won a Grammy for best rock song and best rock performance. 46 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:18,560 At the beginning, he talks about the Villa of Orman, which I had to look up. 47 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:19,560 The Villa of Orman. 48 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,560 Yeah, I didn't even know what he was saying. 49 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:22,560 Yeah. 50 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:23,560 It just sounds cool. 51 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,520 So it translates to the, it's House of the Serpent. 52 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:27,520 Oh. 53 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:28,520 Yeah. 54 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:33,160 Kind of strange, strange lyrics, but again, you know, seems to have something to do with 55 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:34,160 his death. 56 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,600 You know, you get to that point there where he's like something happened on the day he 57 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:37,600 died. 58 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,920 And it seems maybe kind of autobiographical. 59 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:47,800 Maybe it's painted by seeing some of the videos that he put out for this, but it felt kind 60 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,960 of like Dante's Inferno when listening to this song and this album. 61 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:57,400 You know, there's something afterlifey and like a journey of some kind that you're taking 62 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,880 with them and starts off with a bag now. 63 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:00,880 Yeah. 64 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:07,880 And the video alludes to or might allude to Major Tom from the song Space Oddity. 65 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:13,040 The day he died, it was Major Tom that died. 66 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,480 Major Don was going to be my stage name. 67 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:16,480 Yeah. 68 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:22,600 I also read that it could be connected to an Elvis Presley song called Black Star, which 69 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,440 was written by Sherman Edwards and Sid Wayne. 70 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,800 In the lyrics of that song, it says, when a man sees a black star, he knows his time 71 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:29,800 has come. 72 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,360 I've also heard that a black star could refer to a cancer lesion. 73 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,120 Black scar, sort of. 74 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,120 So yeah, lots to think about there. 75 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,400 You guys barely talked about it years ago. 76 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,160 What are your thoughts on this album? 77 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:50,760 I mean, at the time it came out in 2016, it was pretty emotional time, at least for me. 78 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:56,720 We had just gone through the election, which was its own thing in the US. 79 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,840 And then Bowie passed away pretty soon thereafter, and it was surprising. 80 00:05:00,840 --> 00:05:06,280 I think this record, like we talked about, really took on a new meaning after he passed. 81 00:05:06,280 --> 00:05:10,680 And all these songs are like, wow, these are really just about him dealing with his death. 82 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,960 And yeah, so I think it was nice to come back to it after some time has passed and be able 83 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:19,380 to appreciate it more for the music, and less of the emotional response that I was feeling 84 00:05:19,380 --> 00:05:20,560 back in 2016. 85 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,120 I mirror that. 86 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:27,280 I mean, it was the same, it was kind of like this fascinating thing that there was this 87 00:05:27,280 --> 00:05:31,880 album that was alluding to his impending death. 88 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,940 So it was more kind of like, whoa. 89 00:05:34,940 --> 00:05:39,440 And I really hadn't experienced the record, so I am also glad that we have a chance to 90 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,080 really dig in and see what it's all about. 91 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:43,080 Yeah. 92 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,720 For me, I was really back on the Bowie train. 93 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:50,860 I loved his previous album, The Next Day, from 2013, but that was a very straightforward 94 00:05:50,860 --> 00:05:52,320 rock album. 95 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,720 So I remember listening to this on the first day and being like, oh, this is interesting. 96 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,720 I'm going to have to spend some time with it. 97 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,840 And then two days later, he was dead. 98 00:05:59,840 --> 00:06:00,840 And I listened to it. 99 00:06:00,840 --> 00:06:05,160 I'm like, oh my god, this guy is literally dying as he's recording this. 100 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,360 And it just really changed the meaning of the record. 101 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:09,360 All right. 102 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,000 Well, let's hear some more. 103 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,760 Here's a track called, Tis a Pity, She Was a Whore. 104 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,280 I'm going to use a bad word, whore. 105 00:06:16,280 --> 00:06:19,280 We just watched that movie. 106 00:06:19,280 --> 00:06:22,280 Who's playing saxophone? 107 00:06:22,280 --> 00:06:37,760 That's Donnie McClaston on tenor saxophone. 108 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,600 Kickin' ass, I must say. 109 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:45,080 That's a re-recording of a track Bowie had written back in 2014 for that record Don had 110 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:46,480 mentioned there the next day. 111 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,680 Yeah, I think that song in particular. 112 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,840 I mean, this whole record to me just feels like such a bold statement to make, especially 113 00:06:52,840 --> 00:06:58,680 the end of your career really goes for on this album, especially these handful of cuts 114 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,880 at the beginning here that feel a little more experimental, a little more avant-garde, and 115 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,840 it's just exciting and interesting to me. 116 00:07:04,840 --> 00:07:10,720 My clickbait headline is, Bowie Leaves Behind a Monumental Legacy, Black Star Only Leaves 117 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:11,720 Me Wanting More. 118 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,200 It would have been really interesting to see what he did after this, after kind of putting 119 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,840 out a record which is kind of like a sharp left turn in his discography. 120 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,680 What did he do after that? 121 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,400 I guess we'll never really know, but I'm super glad that he did put out this album, and I 122 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:29,880 think it's a testament to just how creative and different of an artist, but he was willing 123 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,320 to take risks and he could feel it on this album. 124 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,200 He didn't like to be pigeonholed. 125 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,000 I think this shows that. 126 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:42,080 As much as I thought this previous record was good, it was kind of more of a typical 127 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,480 Bowie kind of sound, whereas this is not. 128 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:46,680 That's cool. 129 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:52,120 He sometimes would kind of return to something that worked for him before, but yeah, I mean, 130 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:57,840 for the most part he was always taking chances, and I would say that he had nothing left to 131 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:02,800 lose and that's why he took chances on this final album, knowing that he was sick, but 132 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,920 I think it's just that's who he was as an artist, regardless. 133 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:07,920 Yeah. 134 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,280 That's what it felt like to me too. 135 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:16,120 And he kind of cites some hip hop to pimp a butterfly from Kettlecomar and D'Angelo's 136 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:20,600 Black Messiah as being things they were listening to in the studio before recording this. 137 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:21,600 I believe him. 138 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:27,720 A lot of times a 69 year old man who said that stuff like, oh, I've really been listening 139 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:32,560 to Taylor Swift to get rid of it. 140 00:08:32,560 --> 00:08:34,040 I believe him. 141 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:40,600 I like that it, so he's incorporating jazz musicians and jazz elements, but it's not, 142 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,560 hey, this is David Bowie doing a jazz album. 143 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:46,480 It's a jumping off point or something. 144 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:47,480 Yeah. 145 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,640 It still feels very much like a Bowie record. 146 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,720 You can feel the stamp on every track. 147 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:57,280 Yeah, the drum machine sounds, those electronic sort of. 148 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:58,280 Stuttery drum beat. 149 00:08:58,280 --> 00:08:59,280 It's very Bowie. 150 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:00,280 Yeah. 151 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:06,440 And I think it's the vocal differences and the, she's a, and the shaky voice. 152 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,960 Is that because he's in a weakened condition? 153 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,560 Is it because that's how he's emoting this particular thing? 154 00:09:12,560 --> 00:09:16,320 But there's a lot of questions you can, as you're listening to the record in every song, 155 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:21,840 I found myself asking myself a lot of questions about why do you do that? 156 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:27,460 And that's not always the case with records, especially of legacy artists like this who've 157 00:09:27,460 --> 00:09:29,840 been around for 20 plus records. 158 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:36,000 A lot of times by this point, they're just kind of making songs that sound like them 159 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,280 to sell to the handful of fans they still have, but that's not what this is. 160 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:40,280 Yeah. 161 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:41,800 His voice sounds really good at times. 162 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:48,160 And, you know, I mean, I wonder how much help he had, you know, with the processing and 163 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,320 stuff like that to make them sound good. 164 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,120 But yeah, it definitely is layered. 165 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,280 You know, there's a lot of reverb going on. 166 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,800 But even on that track we just played there, To the Page She Was a Horror. 167 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,080 I mean, he just lays it out. 168 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:06,080 I mean, he's like, it sounds like he's exhausted by the end of the track. 169 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:11,920 I really can feel the emotion, energy just pouring into that performance on that song. 170 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,520 And I don't know, I'm there with him for 100%. 171 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,320 I think it's pretty impressive. 172 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,040 Well, let's hear more. 173 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,040 Here's a track called Lazarus. 174 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:32,560 I love those. 175 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:42,800 It sounds like someone hitting guitar strings with their palm, you know? 176 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:43,800 Yeah. 177 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:44,800 Yeah. 178 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:45,800 Yeah. 179 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:50,080 That feels like maybe one of the more accessible tracks on the album, even though it's over 180 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:51,360 six minutes long. 181 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:56,360 It's still, it seems like the album's over before you know it. 182 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,640 Even though there are some long tracks, it's like a 40 something minute album. 183 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,840 It does not drag. 184 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,360 And the subject matter and the feel should, but it doesn't. 185 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:06,360 Yeah. 186 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:07,360 At least not for me. 187 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:08,360 Yeah. 188 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:13,920 So just to throw it in there for folks that don't know, Lazarus is a character from the 189 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:19,840 Bible, from the gospel according to John chapter 11, verses one through 45. 190 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,320 And it's the story of a guy being brought back to life by Jesus. 191 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:27,640 So you might hear the term Lazarus a lot and that's what it's referring to. 192 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:28,640 Yeah. 193 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,640 So some people have speculated that Bowie might've been kind of predicting increased 194 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:38,280 fame after his death, which certainly was true. 195 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:39,280 Yeah. 196 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:45,360 I love the line, like he's like, everybody knows me now or something like that after 197 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:46,360 he's up in heaven. 198 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:47,360 Yeah. 199 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,600 Of course, it could have been referring to lots of other people over the years too. 200 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:52,600 Of course. 201 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:59,000 So my clickbait headline for this record is, like Mozart, Bowie writes his own Requiem. 202 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,000 Nice. 203 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:04,480 I don't know how much of that, I mean, a lot of the Mozart stuff is kind of mythology, 204 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:05,480 I think. 205 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:10,360 So I don't know to what extent that was, like the movie Amadeus where he's sitting there 206 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,280 writing his, composing his Requiem. 207 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,880 I mean, he's a performance artist too, right? 208 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,720 So those videos that are paired with this, including the one for Lazarus, which is quite 209 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:24,240 striking, isn't he building his own legend? 210 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:29,280 Isn't he creating these moments so that we talk about it like, whoa, this sounds like 211 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,400 it's from the grave and all that kind of stuff. 212 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,440 I mean, he knew what he was doing. 213 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:34,440 Yeah. 214 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:35,440 100%. 215 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:36,440 100%. 216 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:40,600 I can't imagine what that experience is like to really be, I mean, it's like planning 217 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:41,600 your own funeral and- 218 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:46,480 You've got to really come to terms with that, like at a deep level to be able to look out 219 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:52,480 in that bed in that video and put those buttons on your eyes, like that's heavy, man. 220 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:58,720 But I mean, I'm sure, of course, no one wants to die, but as the artist that he was, this 221 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:06,000 was an opportunity to explore something that until you're dealing with it or facing it, 222 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,960 you can't explore it as effectively. 223 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:14,040 And so that's why it feels so haunting and real because we know that he was sick and 224 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,600 we know that he died a few days after this was released. 225 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:22,720 So it has a supernatural spiritual feel to it that you're somehow connected to the other 226 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,600 side, whatever that might be. 227 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:25,600 Yeah. 228 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:32,320 And Bowie so often writes characters and I think this album is, I mean, it feels like 229 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:38,740 it's personal, it's about him, which I, it feels like maybe one of the most sincere records 230 00:13:38,740 --> 00:13:40,040 he's done. 231 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:41,040 Yeah. 232 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,280 The song Lazarus, right? 233 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,440 Being risen from the dead. 234 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,040 Isn't that kind of what happened? 235 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:52,080 I mean, if this album had come out and he hadn't died days later, I feel like that's 236 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:58,400 what triggered so much interest and people truly paying attention to the record. 237 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:03,600 You know, I think it, so in a way he was resurrected. 238 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:04,600 By the album. 239 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:05,600 Yeah. 240 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:06,600 Yeah. 241 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:11,120 And you know, I mean, in a way, like this album is also dealing with his death, but 242 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,960 it's also kind of giving his fans a way for them to process his death. 243 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,080 So it's, it does, it works on many levels. 244 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,480 Also, I wish more artists would do things like this. 245 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,680 I think a death is something we're really bad at talking about and thinking about as 246 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,440 a society and having something like an art piece like this that really gets into the 247 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,360 depths of it is I think really valuable. 248 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:31,360 All right. 249 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:32,780 Let's listen to the final track. 250 00:14:32,780 --> 00:14:40,280 This is I can't give everything away. 251 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:53,440 As we've talked about this album is kind of cinematic and this song certainly is as well. 252 00:14:53,440 --> 00:15:00,000 Features orchestral strings, harmonica, sax, guitar solos that kind of recall the Robert 253 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:06,720 Fripp's classic Bowie collaborations, but it's kind of the reward for enduring some 254 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,560 of the experimentation. 255 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,640 Like it kind of, I think it's somewhat about the album. 256 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,480 It's about him as an artist. 257 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:17,000 Like if you want to know me, pay attention, appreciate my creations. 258 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:23,720 I'm not just going to give you all my secrets and, and, uh, tell you what these things mean. 259 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:29,960 I think it's kind of, uh, it's a goodbye saying experience this experience my music, you know, 260 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:34,360 this, this is my, you know, like the kind of the final curtain, the bow. 261 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:35,920 That's what it kind of feels like to me. 262 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:36,920 Yeah. 263 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,120 Kind of like it's in your hands now, giving you everything I can. 264 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:41,120 Yeah. 265 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:42,120 Yeah. 266 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:43,120 Carry on my legacy. 267 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,160 I'm not going to give you every detail figured out. 268 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:47,160 Yeah. 269 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:51,960 So the clickbait headline I came up with for this one is a haunting masterpiece that echoes 270 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:57,040 his other names while exploring mortality, identity, and the uncompromising creative 271 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:06,600 legacy of a true space oddity, unique dude, unique artists, uh, able to continue to morph 272 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:13,160 even doing, uh, an industrial album there in the mid nineties, continue to explore, 273 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,760 to never stop creating as an actor, as a musician. 274 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,320 That's what it was all about for him. 275 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,080 It wasn't about being a star. 276 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:26,880 So this is just a really beautiful way of saying goodbye and also saying hello. 277 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,280 I think it's cement his legacy as an artist. 278 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,280 Hey, you know, you say goodbye. 279 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,280 I'll say hello. 280 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,280 There you go. 281 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:41,280 I know what I was talking about, Bowie is he's always painted himself as kind of the 282 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:46,280 outsider, you know, looking, looking at us kind of like from an outside perspective, 283 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,880 but so many people just resonate with that idea. 284 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:54,440 It's kind of amazing that he's kind of made almost everybody an outsider in a way that 285 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:55,880 we're all, but we're all. 286 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:56,880 Yeah. 287 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,200 Brought together and someone like that. 288 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,160 It's kind of, it's kind of beautiful in a way. 289 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,760 Why it's through his characters, Ziggy Stardust and Aladdin Sane. 290 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:12,160 And even this is sort of his character of, of the black star, you know, the, I think 291 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,680 it's made it a comfortable way for him to let it all out. 292 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,160 We're the benefactors of it. 293 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:18,160 Yeah. 294 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:19,160 All right. 295 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:20,160 Well, let's do this. 296 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:26,200 I'm going to nominate David Bowie's black star for the album nerds Hall of Fame. 297 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:33,040 I think, you know, with, with aging artists, you know, particularly the ones we love when 298 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:37,680 they come out with material, you know, sometimes we'll say, Oh, this stands up with, you know, 299 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,000 they're, you know, some of the best works. 300 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,920 And a lot of times it's, I think we're stretching when we say that because we want to be able 301 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:43,920 to say it. 302 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,960 So are they, every artist always says it's the best album we've ever made. 303 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:48,960 Yeah. 304 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,320 In this case, I really think it's true. 305 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:58,680 I mean, I think this stands up there with, with Ziggy Stardust and Lo, you know, as a, 306 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:03,200 as an artistic achievement, even if it's only because it deals with us. 307 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:04,200 Yeah. 308 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,680 It deals with the subject matter that, I mean, certainly people have, you know, done stuff 309 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:13,720 about death, but I don't know, this is just such a unique work and I think it, you know, 310 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:14,960 it deserves to be celebrated. 311 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,200 What do you guys think? 312 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,680 We should go first, dude. 313 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:26,840 I don't want to, you know, I was thinking about this possibility and I hoped it wouldn't 314 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:27,840 come up. 315 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,000 Me too. 316 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:37,680 In the context, in some ways, yes, I mean, I could see because it is a specifically creative 317 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:44,920 way of saying goodbye and it's a great album, but at the same time, like, did it shape music? 318 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,480 Is it in Bowie's top five records, you think? 319 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:49,480 Right. 320 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:50,480 That's the question. 321 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,240 Is it even in the top 10, you know, and- 322 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,280 But I think Bowie could have 10 Hall of Fame worthy albums, maybe. 323 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:57,280 Yeah. 324 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:58,280 But yeah. 325 00:18:58,280 --> 00:18:59,280 At least five, you know? 326 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:00,280 Yeah. 327 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:01,280 It's a tough one. 328 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:06,680 I think it's one of the toughest ones for me to decide on because for me, it's a very 329 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:07,680 emotional record. 330 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:12,480 It's hard for me to separate this from like the art from like my response to it. 331 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:13,480 Yeah. 332 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,520 In that regard, obviously it'd be a Hall of Fame record, but if I look at it more critically, 333 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:23,240 I don't think it's a perfect record, especially the B-side I think is not nearly as interesting 334 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,360 to me as the beginning. 335 00:19:25,360 --> 00:19:29,040 I think if I'm being honest, I probably would say no, but I would definitely be okay if 336 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,880 it got in there because I love it. 337 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:33,160 Yeah. 338 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,520 I feel exactly the same. 339 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,400 You know what? 340 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:43,560 I'm on the fence with it and this will give a chance for the Album Nerds out there to 341 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,480 vote so I'm going to say yes. 342 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,080 I want it there. 343 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:52,600 I just, I'm not quite all the way there, but yeah, I'm going to say yes so we can get our 344 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,000 people involved. 345 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,000 Okay. 346 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,800 So, well, we're not quite there yet. 347 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:03,720 I don't know if Bowie made it to the gates of heaven, but he hasn't quite gotten to the 348 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,600 gates of the Album Nerds Hall of Fame yet either. 349 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:14,200 So please go on our social media, enter our website and vote Black Star into the Album 350 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,400 Nerds Hall of Fame. 351 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,480 Excuse me. 352 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:24,400 I'd like to ask you a few questions. 353 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,400 It's time for Deep Questions by Don. 354 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:34,280 This album was in many ways a goodbye from Bowie to his fans. 355 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,600 What other final works of art left that impression on you? 356 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:45,380 Yeah, for me the one that came to mind in recent years or I guess decades was Heath 357 00:20:45,380 --> 00:20:55,480 Ledger's portrayal of the Joker in The Dark Knight back in 2008. 358 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,800 It's impressive to see someone go out at the top of their game, you know, like Bowie doing 359 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,760 something new and creative and impressive. 360 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:09,360 I think Heath's portrayal of an iconic character still holds up as being maybe the most memorable 361 00:21:09,360 --> 00:21:10,360 Joker performance. 362 00:21:10,360 --> 00:21:13,440 Like, you know, maybe Joker is such an iconic character, he's going to say, like, is that 363 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,560 better than Jack Nicholson? 364 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,680 You know, tough, but definitely unique and definitely memorable. 365 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,160 And I think something people look back on as being like, wow, that was the thing that 366 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,440 happened in 2008. 367 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:29,000 I think, you know, up to the before Brokeback Mountain, I didn't really think of him as 368 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,680 a dramatic actor. 369 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:31,680 Yeah. 370 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,720 He was in like 10 Things I Had About You or something like that. 371 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,200 Yeah, stuff like that. 372 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,120 I was vaguely aware of him, a knight's tale. 373 00:21:39,120 --> 00:21:45,200 But that performance is, even if he hadn't passed away, I think that would be one of 374 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:50,000 his defining ones that might have become an annoyance in his career. 375 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,000 Getting typecast a little bit. 376 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,600 Yeah, because it was so shockingly good. 377 00:21:55,600 --> 00:22:02,840 It was just like, because everyone had Jack Nicholson in their head from the 1989 Batman. 378 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,880 So yeah, he just made it much darker, much realer. 379 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,240 And yeah, definitely the one that came to mind for me. 380 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,920 Yeah, a believable psycho instead of a cartoon character. 381 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:13,920 Yeah, exactly. 382 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,960 What came to mind for you did. 383 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:22,760 Because of this, the Bowie situation and thinking about an album that comes out and then passes 384 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,120 away shortly thereafter and it becomes the final album. 385 00:22:26,120 --> 00:22:27,320 Now in Bowie's case, he knew it. 386 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,260 In the case of John Lennon, he did not. 387 00:22:30,260 --> 00:22:35,280 So the album Double Fantasy by John Lennon and Yoko Ono comes to mind. 388 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,480 For him, it was a new beginning, right? 389 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,720 It had been five years since putting out an album. 390 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,680 And just like Starting Over is the opening track. 391 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:47,920 And I think it was this hopeful sort of John Lennon at 40 years old. 392 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:55,080 And it was released November of 1980 and he died, shot in December of 1980. 393 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,320 And it has become his legacy, you know, his final record. 394 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,040 So that came to mind first. 395 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,160 You think it stands up in terms of the quality? 396 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,080 Yes, it's among his best solo work. 397 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:10,440 I mean, this one's with Yoko, but definitely it's a great album. 398 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,440 Check it out. 399 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:13,440 Donald? 400 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:18,600 Well, I don't know if you would consider a speech, a work of art. 401 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:19,600 Oh yeah. 402 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,240 You know, when I think about, you know, kind of people facing death and saying goodbye, 403 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,320 I think of Lou Gehrig. 404 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,680 You know, you can find the audio of this speech anywhere. 405 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:34,400 You know, he famously lost his life to ALS, which is known as Lou Gehrig's disease. 406 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,720 But so after, you know, he had to, I mean, he was still basically in the prime of his 407 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:42,040 career when he had to basically shut it down because of this illness. 408 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:46,600 You know, right after his retirement, they did a Lou Gehrig day at Yankee Stadium and 409 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:47,720 they brought him out and he made a speech. 410 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,400 And it's the one that starts out with, you know, today I consider myself the luckiest 411 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,960 man on the face of the earth, which is just such a weird thing to say, you know, because 412 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:56,960 the guy's dying. 413 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:01,600 Yeah, but he's, you know, talking about all the support he's had and you know, what an 414 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:06,800 amazing life, you know, so it's just a, you know, it's an incredibly, you know, powerful 415 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,960 speech and he's crying as he delivers it. 416 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,400 And you know, I just, again, I just can't imagine experiencing that. 417 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:15,400 Yeah. 418 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:16,400 Yeah. 419 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:22,400 That clip from that speech I think is infamous as like JFK speech or any of those others from 420 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:23,400 that period. 421 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,680 And the pop cultural references to it. 422 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:27,680 Yeah. 423 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:28,680 Since Sleepless in Seattle. 424 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:29,680 Yeah. 425 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:30,680 You know, movies and TV shows. 426 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:31,680 Yeah. 427 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:32,680 Good pick, man. 428 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:33,680 Feeling kind of sad now. 429 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:34,680 I know you like it. 430 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:40,480 Yeah, the summer of God sucks. 431 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:46,120 Got a thunderstorm going on. 432 00:24:46,120 --> 00:24:49,320 Well, what other famous goodbyes are there? 433 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:50,320 Let us know. 434 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:54,640 Visit us on social media, Instagram, Facebook and threads. 435 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,240 Also on our website, AlbumNerds.com. 436 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:58,240 Can you dig it? 437 00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,240 Can you dig it? 438 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:00,240 Can you dig it? 439 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,240 Can you dig it? 440 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,240 Can you dig it? 441 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,240 Can you dig it? 442 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,240 Can you dig it? 443 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,240 Can you dig it? 444 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,240 Can you dig it? 445 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:11,840 Well, we've been saying goodbye to David Bowie for a week now. 446 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,840 Other things you've been digging this week, Andy? 447 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:14,840 All right. 448 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,720 I've got a collection of new releases here in my... 449 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,720 Velcro wallet. 450 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:26,480 Yeah, it's my Ridge new line wallet from... 451 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,440 Not a sponsor. 452 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,280 Sponsor of every podcast in 2015. 453 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,280 Not this one. 454 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,280 Hey, Ridge. 455 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:34,280 All right, let's check it out. 456 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,280 We'll start it out with Nadi Sa. 457 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,280 I believe it's how you'd say her name. 458 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:37,280 The name of the record is Filthy Underneath. 459 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:47,960 This is the sixth studio album for the singer and songwriter from the UK. 460 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,080 She's touring with Depeche Mode right now, Donald. 461 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,720 I'll play Topless Mother as the name of this guy. 462 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:56,720 Giggity. 463 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:57,720 Giggity. 464 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:09,360 Not what I was expecting. 465 00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:10,360 Yeah, interesting. 466 00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:12,440 It's a really interesting record. 467 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,080 It's got a dark, I would say, kind of gritty sounding... 468 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,160 She's got a great voice too. 469 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,160 Is that electronic? 470 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,200 Is the music electronic or is it... 471 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,200 Very little. 472 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,200 Very little, I would say. 473 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,200 Cool. 474 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,240 The next one up for me is a hip hop group from Ireland. 475 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,440 You guys remember back when we did our Ireland show. 476 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:37,160 It's kind of a growing scene there in Ireland. 477 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:38,160 The group is called Kneecap. 478 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:49,560 The name of the track is Fine Art. 479 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,760 The track is Lucky Charms. 480 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,200 Yes, they're Irish. 481 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,200 Cool. 482 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,360 This is their second album, three piece. 483 00:27:01,360 --> 00:27:06,720 It's interesting to me how much dance music has found its way into Irish hip hop scene. 484 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,280 It's much less of that traditional hip hop sound. 485 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:16,320 Yeah, I mean, I love accents in hip hop in particular because we're so used to American 486 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:17,320 delivery. 487 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:18,320 Yeah. 488 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:19,320 Yeah. 489 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,680 It can really change the rhyme schemes a lot. 490 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,760 So it's fun to listen to because it's so different. 491 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,920 What was the guy's name we did, the Irish rapper? 492 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:30,920 Nilo. 493 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:31,920 Nilo. 494 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:32,920 Yeah. 495 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:33,920 Okay. 496 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,280 That was a little more organic sounding than this, but very good as well. 497 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:38,280 Yeah. 498 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,280 All right. 499 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,560 Last one up for me is a collaboration between James Blake and Lil Yachty. 500 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,520 The album is called Bad Cameo. 501 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:51,040 We're going to play the opening cut, Save the Savor. 502 00:27:51,040 --> 00:28:01,840 You know, it's funny, I'm familiar with Lil Yachty, but I have no idea who James Blake is. 503 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,120 Would you be surprised that we've probably reviewed two of his records over the last 504 00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:06,120 10 or 15 years? 505 00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:07,120 Not at all. 506 00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:08,920 I couldn't place the music at all. 507 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,440 And I think every time we've talked about him, I've been like, hey, never heard of him. 508 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,640 You're like, we already do it. 509 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:15,640 Sorry, James. 510 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,280 I thought it was, I was thinking of James. 511 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,200 I was thinking of James Blunt first. 512 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,200 Yeah. 513 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,200 You're beautiful. 514 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,200 That could have been him on that track, right? 515 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,560 I think Paul Park, sort of. 516 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:31,560 Anyway. 517 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:32,560 Yeah. 518 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,280 It's a pretty interesting collaboration, I would say, if you're a fan of a little hip 519 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,360 hop and R&B sounds. 520 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,280 I think it's a good one. 521 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:42,920 What you been digging on, Don? 522 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:48,200 Well, I was listening to another podcast called the New Wave Music Podcast, and they 523 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,600 had a group on called Urban Heat. 524 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:56,960 They're actually kind of like a dark wave post-punk group from Austin. 525 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,080 Their second album is coming out in August. 526 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,080 Austin, England or? 527 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,080 No. 528 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,080 What? 529 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,080 Austin, England, Texas. 530 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,080 Yeah. 531 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,080 Oh, wow. 532 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,080 Yeah. 533 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,120 So there's a single called Say The Words. 534 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,840 Yeah. 535 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:19,960 So their first album, I think, is pretty good, and it's kind of all over the place. 536 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:24,480 So I think that song there that I just played isn't necessarily indicative of all of their 537 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:25,480 work. 538 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,480 It's a little more understated than I thought it was going to be. 539 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:28,480 Yeah. 540 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,200 You know, with the post-punk tag on there, I thought it was going to be... 541 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:33,200 It's just one song. 542 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,680 Yeah, they are, I think, maybe a little more streamlined. 543 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,200 I think there's only... 544 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,520 I think it's a three-piece. 545 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,280 So I think there's maybe more space in their sound. 546 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,440 Okay. 547 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:44,440 Another thing I've been digging. 548 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,240 So I got this book that Robin Hitchcock just released. 549 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:53,600 So it's called 1967, How I Got There and Why I Never Left. 550 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:59,740 So it's kind of a memoir, but it only focuses on this three-year period in his teenage years 551 00:29:59,740 --> 00:30:01,960 where he's at this boarding school. 552 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:02,960 But it's really interesting. 553 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,340 I like the way he writes. 554 00:30:04,340 --> 00:30:09,920 It's very similar to how he writes his lyrics, sort of intellectual, but also silly and strange 555 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,880 and kind of like there's an inside joke that you aren't completely in on. 556 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:14,880 Yeah. 557 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,640 That's a great way of summing him up. 558 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:18,640 Yeah. 559 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,120 But it's fun because he's talking about the first time he heard Dylan and the first time 560 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,560 he heard Bowie and stuff like that. 561 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,560 So even though it's not like a career, it doesn't tell the story of his career. 562 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,960 It sort of gives you an idea of how he got where he is. 563 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:38,920 But also in September, he's going to release a corresponding album called 1967 Vacations 564 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:44,520 in the Past, and it's all cover versions of songs from 1967. 565 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:50,400 So the one that was just playing there is Itchy Coup Park from The Small Faces, which 566 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,400 came out in 1967. 567 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:54,400 Looking forward to that. 568 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:55,400 Small Faces. 569 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:56,400 Cool, man. 570 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,400 We'll definitely have to check out the book. 571 00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:59,400 That sounds interesting. 572 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:00,400 He's such a... 573 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:05,400 Every time I hear him talk, I was like, I've listened to this guy talk for a long time. 574 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,840 I feel like he'd be good at giving a speech or writing a book. 575 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,840 Yeah. 576 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:17,320 It seems like everything is an inside joke or a wink that only his people understand. 577 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:18,320 Even they don't understand. 578 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,320 No one really gets it, but it's funny anyway. 579 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,320 But they pretend to. 580 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:25,320 Right. 581 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,320 Dude? 582 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:27,600 All right. 583 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,400 So I have listened to this once. 584 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:31,880 I just stumbled on it. 585 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,120 I need to spend a lot more time with it, but it's a band called Truck Violence. 586 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:43,560 The album is Violence and the song is Undressed You Lant Before. 587 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,560 Wow, interesting. 588 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:56,840 Sounds a little avant-garde there, I pretty do. 589 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:57,840 I know. 590 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:03,440 They're from Montreal, but I guess I grew up near the Athabasca Tar Sands, which is 591 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:08,920 like Northeast Alberta petroleum production area. 592 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,200 Famous music for the petroleum area there. 593 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,200 Yeah. 594 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,480 Carson Henderson and Paul Lacour's Experimental Hardcore. 595 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,280 But it reminds me of the late 80s Seattle sound. 596 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:23,720 Poetic, intense, without any fear or aspirations of being famous or just making this music, 597 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,200 which has a lot of banjo in it, by the way. 598 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,120 There's something just true about it. 599 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:33,120 And I haven't gotten into what the lyrics are or whatever, but it's an interesting sound. 600 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,800 It just sounds industrial and dirty. 601 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:37,800 Covered in petroleum. 602 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:38,800 Yes. 603 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:39,800 Interesting. 604 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:40,800 Covered in oil. 605 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:41,800 That's cool. 606 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:48,000 So I'm always exploring new country music and a lot of new country music sounds like 607 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,360 old country music. 608 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:55,120 I stumbled on a guy named Braxton Keith, who I guess is kind of a rising star. 609 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,040 Not an album yet that I can find for this song. 610 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:07,080 It's called Lonely as the Lone Star. 611 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,120 Kind of your throwback country. 612 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,840 He's from San Antonio. 613 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,400 No relation to Toby. 614 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,680 I'm calling it the new wave of traditional country. 615 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,760 I don't think he's related to Toby. 616 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:25,480 But yeah, he's got a curled up waxed mustache, which is part of why I was like, hey, who's 617 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:26,480 this guy? 618 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,760 What era is he supposed to be from? 619 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:31,760 Yeah. 620 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:37,000 So that song Lonely as the Lone Star, I assume there'll be an album coming, but yeah, it's 621 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,000 just fun. 622 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,000 Interesting. 623 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:44,680 Finally, for the album collection, within the last few months ago, I did finally get 624 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:51,080 my hands on Pet Sounds by the Beach Boys on vinyl. 625 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:56,080 Yeah. 626 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,080 That's pretty good record. 627 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,880 Why is that part of the Summer of Dawn? 628 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:04,720 I think that maybe that's how we should end the Summer of Dawn. 629 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:05,800 Maybe. 630 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:12,000 This is the 11th studio album, a creative response to Rubber Soul, Brian Wilson's masterpiece, 631 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,680 introspective lyrics and innovative production. 632 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,840 And it's one of those that has a couple of songs on it that you know, and then some other 633 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,360 stuff to dig into. 634 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,560 But I think every record collector should probably have a copy of it, just like they 635 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,200 should have a copy of Sergeant Pepper, that kind of thing. 636 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:32,680 I was just listening to this the other day and I was thinking how it's like symphonies 637 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,720 or it's like classical music sort of disguised as pop music. 638 00:34:36,720 --> 00:34:39,760 Yeah, it's kind of his secret. 639 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:40,960 And my copy is a reissue. 640 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,280 It's not like original or anything like that. 641 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,920 Is it the mono or the stereo? 642 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:45,920 Stereo. 643 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:46,920 All right. 644 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:47,920 So what have you been digging? 645 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:48,920 Let us know. 646 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:57,720 We have Facebook, Instagram and threads also on our website at AlbumNerds.com. 647 00:34:57,720 --> 00:35:01,720 It will be a discovery of extraordinary value. 648 00:35:01,720 --> 00:35:04,720 All right. 649 00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:10,400 Well it's about that time on the show when I'm reminded of the great British singer-songwriter 650 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:11,400 David Robert Jones. 651 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,120 You guys know who I'm talking about? 652 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,120 Davy Jones. 653 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,120 Go. 654 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,120 Davy Jones. 655 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:25,120 Talking about Mr. David Bowie that we've been talking about for the last 40 minutes 656 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,120 here. 657 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,120 All right. 658 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,640 So Mr. Bowie said, if you feel safe in the area that you're working in, you're not working 659 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,360 in the right area. 660 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,560 Always go a little further into the water than you feel you're capable of being and 661 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:36,800 go a little bit out of your depth. 662 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,960 And when you don't feel that your feet are quite touching the bottom, you're at just 663 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,880 about the right place to do something exciting. 664 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,800 I kind of love that quote from him. 665 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:49,040 With that in mind, we're going to do something a little bit exciting on next week's episode. 666 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:54,800 We're going to be talking about new releases from the first half of 2024, picking out some 667 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,000 ones that have piqued our interest. 668 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:01,600 And we're going to resume the Summer of Dawn following. 669 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:02,600 Okay. 670 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,440 Does David Bowie's Black Star belong in the Album Nerds Hall of Fame? 671 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:07,800 What else are you listening to? 672 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,120 Leave a comment on our website or email us at podcast at albumnerds.com. 673 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,880 You can follow us on Facebook, Instagram, and threads at Album Nerds. 674 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,520 And please subscribe, rate, and review on your favorite podcast app. 675 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:25,120 If you'd like to support the show, you can do so via PayPal at albumnerds.com slash support. 676 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,400 Thank you once again for joining us on the Album Nerds podcast. 677 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,360 We'll catch you next time when we discover some new music. 678 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:31,360 Cool. 679 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:32,360 Thanks for having me, buddy. 680 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:33,360 Nice to be here. 681 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:34,360 We can be heroes. 682 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:35,360 Sounded just like him, didn't it? 683 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,360 No. 684 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:37,360 Sounded just like him, didn't it? 685 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:38,360 No. 686 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,360 Sounded just like him, didn't it? 687 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:40,360 No. 688 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:41,360 Sounded just like Michael Bolton was doing a Bowie cover album. 689 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:42,360 So that never happens. 690 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,360 That'd be interesting. 691 00:36:43,360 --> 00:37:10,360 I'm intrigued now.