1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,160 Welcome to the Album Nerds podcast with your hosts, Andy, Don, and Dude. 2 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,160 USA, USA, USA. 3 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,680 This is the soccer match? 4 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:20,560 I thought this was a podcast. 5 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:21,560 What's going on? 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:22,560 Yes. 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,160 This is the Album Nerds podcast. 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:26,160 I'm Dude. 9 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:27,520 I got Andy and Don with me. 10 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:28,520 How are you guys doing? 11 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,520 Doing great, man, doing great. 12 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,440 Glad to be in the USA. 13 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:33,440 Of course, Andy. 14 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,120 The USA is glad to have you. 15 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:36,120 Don, how are you doing? 16 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:41,320 I'm proud to be an American. 17 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,680 So this is indeed the Album Nerds podcast. 18 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:49,480 We love albums in the album format, discussing them and strengthening our friendship. 19 00:00:49,480 --> 00:00:51,560 So we've got a great show for you today. 20 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:56,780 We're continuing with the summer of Don and we're going to be talking about a summertime 21 00:00:56,780 --> 00:00:59,760 favorite born in the USA, Bruce Springsteen. 22 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,040 Additionally, Don's going to ask us a deep question. 23 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,360 Then we're going to do some shout outs to some albums and album related items that we're 24 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:10,080 digging and then of course we'll spin that wheel of musical discovery to find out what's 25 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,080 next in this beautiful summer of Don. 26 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:17,840 This time it's all about the boss. 27 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,840 I proclaim this the summer of Donnie Lakey. 28 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:27,240 That's what I'm talking about. 29 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:33,480 Those hazy, crazy days of summer of Don continue. 30 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:38,000 So as you know, I went back into the Album Nerds archives and made a list of records 31 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,840 previously covered before I joined the show that I would still like to discuss. 32 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:49,500 I gave up that list to Wadbot who put it on the wheel of musical discovery and this week 33 00:01:49,500 --> 00:01:56,440 the wheel said, let's talk about Born in the USA by Bruce Springsteen, which you guys discussed 34 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,120 on episode 132. 35 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:03,680 Well let's kick things off with the title track, Born in the USA. 36 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:18,600 To a newcomer to this song, they're probably like, man, this is Born in the USA a lot. 37 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,240 He does. 38 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:23,680 That song really pumps me up. 39 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:24,680 I don't know why. 40 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,840 Is it like a patriotic thing or is it like more the sound of it? 41 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,840 No, it's not a patriotic thing. 42 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,960 It's just so in your face and yeah, I don't know. 43 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:40,680 Maybe I'm remembering the video too because the video was just very in your face and he 44 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,360 looks scruffy looking. 45 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,280 He's just screaming into the microphone. 46 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:48,840 It almost has a punk rock vibe in that way. 47 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:55,200 Yeah, the video for that definitely made Bruce Springsteen look like a cool rockin' daddy 48 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,640 in the USA for sure. 49 00:02:57,640 --> 00:03:02,240 Yeah, so that song was actually written in 1981. 50 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:08,120 The title comes from a film that Paul Schrader was making that Springsteen was considering 51 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:13,280 playing the lead part and that movie actually turned out to be The Light of Day starring 52 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,680 Michael J. Fox and Joan Jett. 53 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,200 Did you ever see that one? 54 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:18,200 Yeah. 55 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:19,200 Yeah, I saw it too. 56 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:20,200 Not great. 57 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,200 It's pretty great. 58 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:29,040 But actually, this song actually appeared on demos that Springsteen recorded in his 59 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,840 home in Colts Neck, New Jersey. 60 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:36,480 On episode 132, we actually played a little clip of some of the demos. 61 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:37,480 Oh, nice. 62 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,560 It's very different, very low key, very depressing. 63 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,960 So a lot of those demos actually just turned out to be the Nebraska album. 64 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:50,240 So Born in the USA was released in June 1984. 65 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:54,960 It's the seventh studio album by the American singer-songwriter, Born Bruce Frederick Joseph 66 00:03:54,960 --> 00:04:00,880 Springsteen in Long Branch, New Jersey, USA in 1949. 67 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,340 So it does include the E Street Band. 68 00:04:04,340 --> 00:04:09,800 So the E Street Band features Roy Bitten on keyboards, Clarence Clemens on saxophone, 69 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,720 Danny Federici on organ. 70 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:13,720 Federici. 71 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:19,720 Federici on glockenspiel and all that stuff, piano, Gary Talent on bass guitar, Stephen 72 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:24,960 Van Sant on guitar, and Max Weinberg on drums. 73 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:26,600 And the Max Weinberg 7, no? 74 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:31,720 I don't think the 7 were part of the E Street Band as far as I know. 75 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,040 Yeah, so the legend has it. 76 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,240 Springsteen recorded all these demos. 77 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,100 He brought them to the E Street Band. 78 00:04:39,100 --> 00:04:43,240 Some of them worked with the full band treatment and some of them didn't. 79 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:48,680 The ones that didn't just got released basically in that demo form as the Nebraska album, which 80 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,420 came out in 1982. 81 00:04:50,420 --> 00:04:54,820 So it's just Springsteen, the acoustic, AutoZone. 82 00:04:54,820 --> 00:05:00,800 And then you have this kind of huge full band album, Born in the USA. 83 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,960 Well, it's such an interesting approach, right? 84 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:09,840 I just think that's so cool that a functioning band, a touring band, a band that's been together, 85 00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:10,840 they're friends. 86 00:05:10,840 --> 00:05:13,860 It's not like Bruce's backing band. 87 00:05:13,860 --> 00:05:15,680 They're part of the creative process. 88 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,600 And then when they go, oh, this, nope, we're not liking how this is going, that it's okay. 89 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,760 Well, we'll do it as a solo thing. 90 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:27,040 It's very mature for artists to be like, put their ego aside and be like, yeah, you got 91 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:28,040 this on your own. 92 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,040 It's a present. 93 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:30,040 Yeah. 94 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,440 So you guys talked about this in episode 132. 95 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,720 What were your thoughts then and what are they now? 96 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:41,320 I think for me, I mean, kind of coming from that Nebraska album, which is so simple, I 97 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,600 guess, and muted sounding and dark. 98 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:50,600 This record is so big and loud and just kind of brash and like in your face and flashy. 99 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,800 I think that was kind of my take on it back then. 100 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,000 I still feel that way coming back to it after a few years. 101 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,240 I think the quiet moments are still like Bruce's specialty. 102 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:03,320 I think the moments are really hits the hardest, but I think this record is more interested 103 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:08,520 in just kind of making a big bold statement and sound and that's okay too. 104 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:12,480 Previously, I was more focused on the lyrics are really dark. 105 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:13,980 These aren't fun songs. 106 00:06:13,980 --> 00:06:15,980 Stop thinking that they're party anthems people. 107 00:06:15,980 --> 00:06:20,220 But I've come to kind of look at it a little differently where these songs can be what 108 00:06:20,220 --> 00:06:21,840 you need them to be in the moment. 109 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:25,560 You can focus on the positives or the negatives just like in life. 110 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,960 You can choose to interpret it how you want in the moment and how it serves you and that's 111 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,760 some of the beauty of this art form. 112 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:37,400 I actually remember you telling me back in the day because I think I was not a Springsteen 113 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:43,440 fan growing up and I think at some point I learned that it was cool to like Nebraska. 114 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:48,280 And I remember you telling me that Born in the USA is just Nebraska with the East Street 115 00:06:48,280 --> 00:06:49,440 band. 116 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:56,120 I mean Born in the USA really I think is if you take Born to Run and Nebraska and put 117 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,520 them together, that's kind of what you're getting here. 118 00:06:58,520 --> 00:06:59,520 You know? 119 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:00,520 Yeah, I hear that. 120 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,440 Why don't we hear the, I guess the first big single from this album. 121 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:05,440 This is Dancing in the Dark. 122 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:06,440 This comes for hire. 123 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:07,440 Even if we're just dancing in the dark. 124 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:20,440 Don's Doing the Carlton which is essentially what the dance was in the video for this song. 125 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:21,440 I think that's the video. 126 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,080 He's doing the Courtney Cox. 127 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:29,280 Yeah, but that's strikingly similar to what later became the Carlton, don't you think? 128 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,320 When Don's Doing this, yeah. 129 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:32,320 Right. 130 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:40,520 So that song was written by Bruce in a single night specifically to be kind of the radio 131 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,280 single and it worked. 132 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,800 It was the highest selling single in the US and Australia in 84. 133 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,720 Won a Grammy for best rock vocal performance for the track as well. 134 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,400 Yeah, I remember that song being huge on the radio. 135 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,880 That's probably my first introduction to Mr. Springsteen I would say. 136 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:01,800 I always thought of him as before this album, I thought of him as being depressing. 137 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,920 I guess aside from Hungry Heart from the river. 138 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,920 But when I saw this video, I was probably at my grandparents house because I didn't 139 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,840 have MTV but I was like, whoa, this guy is cool. 140 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,760 I thought this meant that it was okay to like this guy. 141 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,840 I didn't realize he was the same age as my parents. 142 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,720 I probably wouldn't have liked him if I had known that. 143 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,960 Yeah, I think this kind of introduced him to a larger audience. 144 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,680 Definitely painted him in a more rock star kind of light I guess. 145 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,080 Well, they showed a big crowd, it's a live concert type deal. 146 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:36,040 So there's this huge crowd screaming and it's like what? 147 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,360 That's what convinced me he must be big. 148 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:40,960 That's like a big anthemic track. 149 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:46,920 It's kind of danceable and it's got this synth sound kind of becomes part of the band here. 150 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,360 Yeah, it's really a cool song. 151 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:55,680 I mean, I think in the Springsteen library, I'm sure it's not a fan favorite but it's 152 00:08:55,680 --> 00:08:59,320 really just a well-written pop song, personal. 153 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:04,480 The best part is it's really sort of bleak and dismissive in a way because it's like 154 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:09,040 this guns for hire, the producer wanted him to do a hit song. 155 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,560 So he's like, all right, this guns for hire even if I'm just dancing in the dark, I don't 156 00:09:12,560 --> 00:09:14,240 know where I'm going with this. 157 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:15,520 I don't know how to do this. 158 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:19,200 So it was kind of interesting. 159 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,200 It was sort of one-off. 160 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:21,200 Yeah, but it worked. 161 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,200 I mean, it was a huge song. 162 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,120 It made them very popular, helps out a lot of records for them, I'm sure. 163 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,160 The saxophone at the end is really cool. 164 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,720 I don't think I ever really paid attention to it until recently. 165 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:33,720 Well done Clarence. 166 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:34,720 Yeah. 167 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:39,840 My clickbait headline for Born in the USA is Springsteen draws back the blinds and shines 168 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,600 little synth on his working man blues. 169 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,960 Yeah, it's a pretty shiny record. 170 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,280 We are kind of getting into the mid 80s here. 171 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,160 This record is kind of bounce around. 172 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,760 It sounds even a little bit hopeful, I would say, especially in comparison to his previous 173 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:56,760 album. 174 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,320 I think this is kind of like the bright side of Bruce Springsteen, which is not saying 175 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:03,400 it's a bright shiny record, but it's a little bit brighter, maybe a little bit hopeful in 176 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:04,400 comparison. 177 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:10,000 I think with the added synths and stuff, I think they did a really good job of keeping 178 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:16,440 it a rock record, particularly with the title track, it just starts with that synth line. 179 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:22,160 If you isolate that synth line, it could be Human League or Depeche Mode or something, 180 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:27,200 but just because I think of it, because of the loud drums and just the edge to that record, 181 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:31,520 it's as much a rock record as Van Halen. 182 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,120 Of course, Van Halen had Jump, they were doing the synths too. 183 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,080 Yeah, I mean, it's still a rock record. 184 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:39,080 Yeah. 185 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:40,080 No, I think you're right, man. 186 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:45,080 The band's still there and you're right, Max Weinberg has beaten that hard, those drums. 187 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,720 It's such a brash sound, like, bam, bam, bam, bam. 188 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:49,720 Yeah. 189 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,640 Well, let's hear another one. 190 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,320 This is Down Bound Train. 191 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:59,480 All aboard, time to get sad. 192 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:10,080 It's definitely the saddest sounding song on the album. 193 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:15,680 Apparently, the lyrics are kind of a lament to a lost spouse, but also throw in a lost 194 00:11:15,680 --> 00:11:18,480 job and lost everything else. 195 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:23,400 My favorite part of it is actually that final verse where I think he's kind of dreaming 196 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:29,400 that his lost love is calling to him and he's running through the woods or whatever to get 197 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,720 to her and he basically wakes up and he's alone. 198 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,680 Reminds me of Roy Orbison in Dreams. 199 00:11:34,680 --> 00:11:36,680 Man, that's dark. 200 00:11:36,680 --> 00:11:37,680 Yeah. 201 00:11:37,680 --> 00:11:38,680 She is. 202 00:11:38,680 --> 00:11:41,960 I'm surprising that that was also one of the Nebraska demos. 203 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:46,320 It's depressing as hell and I just, I eat that stuff up. 204 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,200 Can't get enough of it. 205 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:54,240 My clickbait headline for Born in the USA is, meet the new boss same as the old boss. 206 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,240 I think that's somebody else. 207 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:57,240 Isn't that the Who? 208 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:58,240 Yes, it is the Who. 209 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:04,320 But it's a shinier Springsteen, but it's the same thing. 210 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:11,200 It's kind of a blue collar poet, working class hero telling sad stories. 211 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:17,920 I guess as I've gotten older, I've just really appreciated his storytelling and as somebody 212 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:22,040 that hasn't worked hard enough to get calluses on my hands. 213 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,320 I assume you use lotion. 214 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:28,480 That's probably why the hands are so soft in the first place. 215 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,080 All the jurgens. 216 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:36,280 As somebody that's kind of white collar, I've always found it easy to relate to because 217 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:44,200 they're kind of universal things, lost love and feeling powerless and all that stuff. 218 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,000 I think he's an incredible songwriter. 219 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:52,080 I was growing up in the Midwest at this time and one half of my family are farm small town 220 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:53,080 people. 221 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:59,240 When I hear these songs, this in Mellingcamp, I really had a sense of what that is like 222 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:04,080 when you're talking about the Americana Heartland rock type stuff. 223 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:09,640 Songs like Down Bound Train, the imagery is so clear for anyone to pick up if they want 224 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:15,640 to give it the time and this train that's just headed downward and you cannot stop it 225 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,720 until it hits the bottom of the hill and then figure it out from there. 226 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,440 Yeah, just good imagery, but as a kid, it was just a cool song about a train, which 227 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,600 I liked. 228 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:26,880 Lots of trains on this record. 229 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:27,880 Yes. 230 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,400 Let's hear more. 231 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:44,040 This is the closing cut on the album, My Hometown. 232 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:48,740 Thinking about this song, I originally was thinking that this album is not all sunny 233 00:13:48,740 --> 00:13:55,680 sounding Downers, but when I was a kid, this was a song that was a happy song. 234 00:13:55,680 --> 00:14:00,740 I wasn't hearing the stuff about the bad stuff that happened in the 60s there or the history 235 00:14:00,740 --> 00:14:04,040 of the town, but just the pride of this is my hometown. 236 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:11,240 Again, in that environment I grew up in, but I think that's the thing with any of these 237 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:12,240 songs. 238 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:16,720 You can look at the bright side, you can say, hey, this is about looking back and he was 239 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:21,720 in his 30s, the Boomers were in their 30s and this album, a lot of it is looking back 240 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:26,280 to good times and bad times in your past, but looking forward, these people had a lot 241 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,200 of life left, families to raise. 242 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:32,400 It was this, I think there's a lot of hope here, even though it doesn't sound like it 243 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:33,400 on this final track. 244 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:34,400 I think so too. 245 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,480 I think it's just a realistic portrayal of circumstances and like, yeah, some shit's 246 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,200 happened, but we've built things. 247 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:41,200 We learned, yeah. 248 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,640 We're better for it, we're stronger. 249 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,000 Or at least let's not make the same mistakes again. 250 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,000 Yeah. 251 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:51,600 I love how, especially on that track, there's all these little moments of him remembering 252 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,400 growing up and then pass these stories on to his kid. 253 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:59,560 He makes all these little vignettes feel so epic and monumental and sitting your kid on 254 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,040 your lap and telling them the truths of the world. 255 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:06,480 It just feels like such a big, it feels like your memory is walking through your memories 256 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,760 and it's like, these are the big things from your life. 257 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,800 It just feels very real and lived in the song in particular. 258 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:13,800 Yeah. 259 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:19,280 So my clickbait headline to describe the album, Bruce becomes boss of the charts alongside 260 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,440 Michael Jackson, Madonna and Prince. 261 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,720 Once the spotlight hits, he runs to the tunnel of love. 262 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,520 I feel like maybe he took it too far here. 263 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:32,380 I don't think anyone expected it to be as huge of an album as it was or for him to be 264 00:15:32,380 --> 00:15:34,600 a chart topping pop star. 265 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:39,800 And then the album, the followup to this tunnel of love was No E Street Band, very introspective 266 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:46,280 about his relationships, marriage and divorces and that kind of thing. 267 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:51,120 And I remember when tunnel of love came out four years later or whatever in 87, 88, I 268 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:56,400 was like so disappointed because it didn't have any of the synths and the celebratory 269 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,400 sax sounds and stuff. 270 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,000 Yeah, it was just about life without all the flowers. 271 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,360 And I think he was back in a way. 272 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,440 I think he's like, I don't want to go through that again. 273 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,880 We did that, but no, it got out of my system. 274 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,080 Yeah, the boss can do whatever he wants. 275 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:18,240 I'm going to make an effort this summer to wear a white t-shirt, blue jeans and put a 276 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,040 red baseball cap in my back pocket. 277 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,760 I suggest we all do that this summertime. 278 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:24,760 That's iconic look. 279 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,240 It is pretty classic. 280 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:30,520 I'm sure that record got bought a lot just for the Elm Art, especially after there's 281 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,280 many posters in college dorm rooms from people who wear it. 282 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:35,280 Bruce Springsteen's ass. 283 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:36,280 Yep. 284 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:41,480 I guess some people misinterpreted the cover and thought he was urinating on the American 285 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:42,480 flag. 286 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:43,480 Oh, what? 287 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:44,480 Yeah. 288 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:45,480 Okay. 289 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,480 He's kind of got one arm like, yeah, interesting. 290 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:48,480 I never thought of that. 291 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:49,480 No. 292 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,480 I don't want to think about that. 293 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:53,480 Not cool, Don. 294 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:54,480 Why'd you do that? 295 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:55,480 That's funny. 296 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:56,480 All right. 297 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:01,280 Well, I'm feeling a lot of love for this record, so I'm going to nominate it for the Album 298 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,280 Nerds Hall of Fame. 299 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:08,400 Yeah, I just enjoyed the hell out of this album this week. 300 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,080 So I vote yes. 301 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:11,080 Sure. 302 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:12,080 Dude. 303 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:13,880 It's interesting that it's fairly new to you. 304 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,940 I mean, adulthood new, not something you grew up loving like I did. 305 00:17:17,940 --> 00:17:19,680 So I think that's awesome. 306 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:20,680 I vote yes. 307 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:21,800 This was a classic. 308 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:29,740 It's a time-defining album in the history of the US, sometimes perhaps used to celebrate 309 00:17:29,740 --> 00:17:31,800 patriotism and such. 310 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:37,340 It's iconic and it meant one thing to me as a kid and it still does, but there's also 311 00:17:37,340 --> 00:17:38,340 the depth. 312 00:17:38,340 --> 00:17:39,340 Love it. 313 00:17:39,340 --> 00:17:40,340 Andy. 314 00:17:40,340 --> 00:17:41,340 I'm a little surprised by you guys. 315 00:17:41,340 --> 00:17:45,400 I mean, I'm not the world's biggest Bruce Springsteen's fan and I appreciate this record, 316 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,320 but I know he's put out much better records than this. 317 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:53,040 Probably like three or four in the previous of his records would be, I think, held in 318 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,040 much higher regard. 319 00:17:55,040 --> 00:18:00,920 But you got to look at a lot of those albums probably wouldn't have been heard by people 320 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:05,640 if they hadn't gotten into this album and gone back. 321 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:11,320 This is culturally more significant than the other albums, whether they're artistically 322 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:12,600 superior or not. 323 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,400 Well, this is not a pop culture podcast. 324 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,920 This is the album nerds podcast where we talk about the quality of the records. 325 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,440 But it also shapes the sound of music moving forward. 326 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:28,640 I think it's accessibility is kind of what makes it great because it's deep, but it's 327 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,740 easy to get to. 328 00:18:30,740 --> 00:18:32,000 That's the charm of it. 329 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,440 That's a good point. 330 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,440 Well, I'm going to say no. 331 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,440 What the fuck? 332 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:42,240 I'll stand by that one 100%. 333 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:47,920 But it's an opportunity for our listening audience to get involved, maybe show some patriotism 334 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,240 for the USA. 335 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,440 And Mr. Springsteen can cast a vote on our website, albnerds.com. 336 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:58,280 We'll have a poll up there on the homepage as well as the socials. 337 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,120 I think this is a great record. 338 00:19:00,120 --> 00:19:03,800 I do, but I don't think it's a Hall of Fame record by any means. 339 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:04,800 All right. 340 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,000 Well, no glory days yet for Mr. Bruce Springsteen. 341 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,000 They're coming. 342 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,480 We'll see what the audience says. 343 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,560 I know our people will have our backs. 344 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:24,920 Well, again, the record is Born in the USA by Bruce Springsteen, released in 1984. 345 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:25,920 Excuse me. 346 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,760 I'd like to ask you a few questions. 347 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,200 All right. 348 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:35,240 Well, time for another deep question by Don. 349 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,360 Just like Mr. Bruce Springsteen, we're going deep. 350 00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:43,200 Born in the USA has been called one of the most misunderstood songs in history. 351 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,200 What other songs have been misunderstood? 352 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:51,160 The one that first came to mind for me was one that was a pretty big part of my youth. 353 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,800 And that was from Outkast, the song Hey Ya. 354 00:19:53,800 --> 00:20:00,200 Then going up largely the song was like a party song about saying hey, and then primarily 355 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:01,200 shaking. 356 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,000 Shaking things like a Polaroid picture. 357 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,200 Yeah, there's lots of shaking going on. 358 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:11,720 But in reality, if you read the lyrics or listen closely, Andre is going pretty deeply 359 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:17,720 into this idea of relationships not really being viable and love kind of being a temporary, 360 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,360 maybe more physical thing, really. 361 00:20:20,360 --> 00:20:24,560 The line from the record is, if what they say is nothing in forever, then what makes 362 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:25,560 love the exception. 363 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,080 Yeah, honestly, it's a pretty dark song. 364 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:32,200 If you read the lyrics just on their own, I think you'd be pretty depressed. 365 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,800 You guys familiar with the song at all? 366 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:35,800 Yes. 367 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,680 You really paid much attention to the lyrics. 368 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:42,200 No, I just thought the video was bright and cool. 369 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,960 I never even considered what that song could be about other than shaking it. 370 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,640 So thank you for ruining it. 371 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,320 What came to mind for you, dude? 372 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:57,560 I was thinking about Green Day's Good Riddance, Time of Your Life. 373 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:58,560 Yes, indeed. 374 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:03,560 Another dirty boy, the book stuck in the road. 375 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:04,560 Wow. 376 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,040 I didn't read the clip for that one. 377 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,840 That's funny because I was thinking that song was being called Time of Your Life. 378 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:10,840 Right. 379 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:19,480 A prom classic, big prom song in the late 90s and apparently it's not romantic. 380 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:23,280 Billy Joe Armstrong had said that the song was about an ex-girlfriend who moved to Ecuador. 381 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:27,840 He was really bitter at the time and that's why it's Good Riddance, Time of Your Life. 382 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,080 It's get out of here. 383 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,200 I hope you have fun. 384 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,720 You asshole. 385 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:40,760 Again, that's the beauty of being misunderstood or misinterpreted. 386 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,320 It really isn't. 387 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:47,280 It brought happiness to people on a completely different level and a lot of money in Billy 388 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:48,280 Joe's pocket. 389 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:49,280 So everyone wins. 390 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,600 I was thinking about artists who are always like, oh, I don't want to interpret the song 391 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,200 because I want the fans to decide what it means for them. 392 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:02,440 That's why that was a cop out, but in these cases, it works. 393 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,240 It's nice that that song can have more meaning than just the girl in Ecuador. 394 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:11,920 I used to be like, just tell me what it means, but I've come to prefer to, even if I find 395 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,960 out what it means, I can put my own spin on it. 396 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,680 That's the beauty of the art form. 397 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,880 So how about you, Donald? 398 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:19,880 Yeah. 399 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:24,600 So I think there's a lot of great examples out there. 400 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:29,640 But I'll go with that song, Pumped Up Kicks. 401 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,960 Came out in 2010 by Foster the People. 402 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:33,960 Right. 403 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,760 It was on a commercial or something? 404 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,720 Yeah, I think it was for Lady Footlocker. 405 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,720 It might have been. 406 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:46,120 Yeah, but it sounds like a fun song. 407 00:22:46,120 --> 00:22:52,880 I remember being at a college football game and it was playing during a time out and stuff 408 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,960 and the crowds grooved into it. 409 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:59,120 But my understanding is that it's actually about a school shooting. 410 00:22:59,120 --> 00:23:00,120 What? 411 00:23:00,120 --> 00:23:01,120 Yeah. 412 00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:02,120 Well, that's... 413 00:23:02,120 --> 00:23:05,000 Better run, better run faster than my bullets. 414 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,000 Yeah. 415 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,000 Oh, see, you know... 416 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,480 Yeah, it's dark. 417 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:13,920 Yeah, I think it's better off not thinking about that. 418 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:19,360 But isn't it so much fun to spoil people's fun by telling them, oh, this song is about 419 00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:20,360 murder. 420 00:23:20,360 --> 00:23:23,160 The song is about drugs. 421 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,120 As they're dancing during the football game. 422 00:23:26,120 --> 00:23:27,120 I used to enjoy that. 423 00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:31,920 I don't like ruining songs for people by saying, this is the real meaning, you dolt. 424 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,640 But I don't enjoy that anymore. 425 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,200 I've grown past that. 426 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,200 Wow, really? 427 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:40,920 That was like a core part of your being, honestly. 428 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:41,920 The bubble burster? 429 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:46,680 Well, I like bursting bubbles in other worlds, but the music thing, I've become sour to doing 430 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:47,680 that. 431 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:48,680 I don't... 432 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:49,680 I see. 433 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:50,680 Okay. 434 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:55,560 Well, what other songs can you think of that have been misunderstood? 435 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:56,560 Let us know. 436 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,880 Visit us on the socials, Facebook, Instagram, and threads. 437 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,480 Also on our website, AlbumNerds.com. 438 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,480 Can you dig it? 439 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,480 Can you dig it? 440 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,360 Can you dig it? 441 00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:15,080 So at least dude and I were digging Springsteen all week. 442 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,720 Not so sure about Andy. 443 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,560 He was half digging it. 444 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:19,880 I liked it. 445 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,480 But what else were we digging? 446 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:23,480 All right. 447 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,440 Well, I got a handful of things here in my... 448 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:30,040 What do you call those little patches you wear around your waist in the 80s? 449 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,040 Fanny pack? 450 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,040 Fanny pack. 451 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,040 That was in the front though, wasn't it? 452 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,040 We used to call them hip sacks too. 453 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,040 Hip sacks. 454 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:41,040 I don't care for that. 455 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,040 All right. 456 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,600 Well, I got a couple of new releases in my hip sack here. 457 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,200 Share them with you guys. 458 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,160 At least it's not his coin purse. 459 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:53,160 Geez. 460 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,160 I'm pulled up to that. 461 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,160 Please continue. 462 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:57,160 Okay. 463 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:04,400 The first one is from a five piece from New York called Ben Stellar. 464 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:05,400 It is a play on that, right? 465 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,200 It is supposed to be like Ben Stellar. 466 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,200 I think so. 467 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,200 Yeah. 468 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,200 I think so. 469 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,280 The name of the album is Scream from New York, New York. 470 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,200 I believe this is their debut record. 471 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,480 We're going to play track five. 472 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:18,480 This is called Sweet. 473 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:19,480 Oasis, anyone? 474 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:20,480 Yeah, I can hear that. 475 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:21,480 Yeah. 476 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:22,480 A lot of big guitars and muffled vocals. 477 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:23,480 It's pretty cool. 478 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:24,480 I've been enjoying it. 479 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:25,480 All right. 480 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:37,000 The next one up for me is from Linda Thompson. 481 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,160 I knew one of you two would bring this up. 482 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,160 Have you seen this yet, Don? 483 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,160 Yeah. 484 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:43,160 Yep. 485 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,000 This is a song actually called Proxy Music, which I couldn't not mention just because 486 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,080 of the album art and the title. 487 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:55,600 Clear shout out, I guess, to Roxy Music's Lamarck album. 488 00:25:55,600 --> 00:26:02,960 This is a collaborative album between Linda and a bunch of artists, some modern day artists 489 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:09,680 and also some artists from back in the day, including Martha and Rufus Rainwhite, John 490 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,880 Grant, the Proclaimers, a bunch of people. 491 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,360 Have you listened to this yet, Don? 492 00:26:14,360 --> 00:26:15,360 No, not yet. 493 00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:16,360 Yeah. 494 00:26:16,360 --> 00:26:17,360 Let's play a clip. 495 00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:19,560 This is Darling This Will Never Do. 496 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,080 This is with Rufus Rainwhite. 497 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,080 Rain, rain, right. 498 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,080 Rain white. 499 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,040 It's hard to say. 500 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,040 Yeah, Rufus sounds pretty good on this. 501 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,040 Rufus Rainwhite. 502 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,040 Elmer Floyd. 503 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,040 Westwich Wode. 504 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:47,120 The record's kind of all over the place in terms of the sound, but it's interesting, 505 00:26:47,120 --> 00:26:48,120 I would say. 506 00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:49,120 And what is she? 507 00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:50,120 Is she a musician? 508 00:26:50,120 --> 00:26:51,120 Yeah. 509 00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:53,120 Like she plays an instrument? 510 00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:58,400 Yeah, her and her ex-husband Richard Thompson were a duet at one point and she's an artist 511 00:26:58,400 --> 00:26:59,400 in her own. 512 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:00,400 Yeah. 513 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:01,400 Okay. 514 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:02,400 Is that Coact Andy? 515 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:03,400 Linda? 516 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:08,680 Yeah, she wrote all the songs on the record. 517 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:13,840 I guess she suffers from a condition called spasmodic dysphonia, I think is how you say 518 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,720 it, which doesn't allow her to sing like she normally would. 519 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,880 So she partnered with a bunch of her friends in the music industry and put this up. 520 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:21,880 It's pretty cool. 521 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:22,880 All right. 522 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:30,040 And last one up for me is from a, I'd say jazz musician by the name of Rich Ruth. 523 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,040 Rich Woof. 524 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,040 Oh, great. 525 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,040 Look what you've started. 526 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:39,000 Oh my gosh. 527 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,560 All right. 528 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,960 The name of the record is Water Still Flows. 529 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:49,720 Let's play No Muscle, No Movement. 530 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:54,160 Yeah, I did listen to this this week. 531 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:55,680 I did know what to do with it though. 532 00:27:55,680 --> 00:28:00,560 If you were listening to it, you were doing all right. 533 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,520 Was I supposed to licking it? 534 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:10,640 Well, Rich Ruth is a product of multi-instrumentalist Michael Ruth. 535 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:15,640 I would probably say it's like instrumental rock, jazz, electronica. 536 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,600 No vocals, pretty lengthy tracks. 537 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,440 I found it, I was talking about his record a couple of years ago. 538 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,680 I found his music very interesting. 539 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:25,680 Pretty dense. 540 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,800 I haven't gotten too far on this one yet, but it sounds cool. 541 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:28,800 On weed. 542 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,800 Wow, it doesn't hurt. 543 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,160 What you been digging on, Dan? 544 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:40,760 Well, one group that I never paid attention to before, but I think they're pretty famous, 545 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,120 Vampire Weekend. 546 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,680 They came out with an album called Only God was above us. 547 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,600 It's their fifth studio album. 548 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,600 Here's a song called Prep School Gangsters. 549 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:58,640 You know, I was afraid by the title that it was going to be similar to Pretty Fly for 550 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,120 a white guy, but it is. 551 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,120 So thank God. 552 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:08,160 Yeah, this actually came up on my Pandora station and thought it was kind of interesting. 553 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,560 So I might give these guys a chance. 554 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,600 Have you guys done the Vampire Weekend? 555 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,360 I've dabbled, but nothing. 556 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,360 I haven't gotten serious. 557 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,680 They seem a little too happy for me. 558 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,280 I always want to write them off, but I think that rockin' in particular is pretty good. 559 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,000 I've enjoyed the one previously too. 560 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,360 I think they're pretty good songwriters, as commercially viable as their sound is. 561 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:27,360 Okay. 562 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:28,360 Another one. 563 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:33,240 The Ride has been around a long time from England, not surprisingly. 564 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:40,080 Sort of in that early shoegaze vibe, but maybe a little harder. 565 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:44,640 They have a new album called Interplay, and this is a song called Peace Sign. 566 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,640 Sounds shimmery. 567 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:52,040 Don's other side, darkness and shimmery. 568 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,040 Dark and shimmer. 569 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,920 Don, biography. 570 00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:01,640 Sounds like that vampire fell in When a Skin Hits the Sun. 571 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:02,640 Okay. 572 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:10,600 And then I just wanted to mention another podcast out there, a special one called Transmissions, 573 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,960 the Definitive Story of Joy Division and New Order. 574 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:22,320 So back in 2020, they released the first season, which basically is an authorized biography 575 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,540 of Joy Division and New Order. 576 00:30:24,540 --> 00:30:29,320 So that first season covered basically the Joy Division era right up to New Order's release 577 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,360 of their big single, Blue Monday. 578 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,920 So season two is coming out in August. 579 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:36,920 Looking forward to that. 580 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:37,920 Cool. 581 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,680 Sounds like a documentary, but podcast forum. 582 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:42,680 A podcumentary. 583 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:43,680 Podcumentary. 584 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:44,680 Podimentary. 585 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:45,680 Okay, cool. 586 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,320 All right, dude. 587 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:55,400 I went with a band that I haven't really, I've heard of but never listened to, The Libertines. 588 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,960 Their new album, fourth studio album after a nine year break. 589 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,120 This one is called All Quiet on the Eastern Esplanade. 590 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,040 The track is Runs on Run. 591 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:11,280 Does that sound so familiar? 592 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,800 Have we listened to it before? 593 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:14,800 No. 594 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,240 I mean, this just came out in April. 595 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,240 Arctic Monkeys. 596 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:25,640 Yeah, so they were early 2000s, formed in the late 90s. 597 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:30,080 So their early albums were produced by Mick Jones and they did have kind of a clashy garage 598 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,240 rock sound, but they got it. 599 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,880 Lyrically, this is really interesting. 600 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,320 It's fun. 601 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,160 And I might go back and listen to their older stuff. 602 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,480 There was drugs and egos forced them to have some problems. 603 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:46,520 That guy Pete Doherty is in the band that was in the news a lot with Amy Winehouse and 604 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:51,280 stuff, but some good stuff and it's got some punky vibes. 605 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,920 Yeah, I'd better listen to it a little bit as well. 606 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,160 It's pretty catchy. 607 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,840 All right, so next up Fontaine's DC we recently talked about on our Ireland episode. 608 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:04,680 They've got a new album coming out August of 2024 called Romance. 609 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:10,400 This is a little bit from Starburst. 610 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:17,200 I really have come to dig this band. 611 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,640 Was it recorded during COVID? 612 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:25,360 It's on the ventilator. 613 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:32,480 This was inspired by the front man, Grian Chetton's panic attack at London St. Pancras 614 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:33,480 station. 615 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,960 So it's a kind of trip hop infused production. 616 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:37,960 It's interesting. 617 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,920 I'm looking forward to the record. 618 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:40,920 I like these guys. 619 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:41,920 Yeah, me too. 620 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:47,720 Yeah, they're okay. 621 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:52,920 And then lastly to the vinyl collection, I recently mentioned that I didn't get T-Rex 622 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,760 Electric Warrior because I had to choose Mastodon, but I went back to the record store. 623 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:03,320 They had a different copy, not the same 1971 original, but I did pick up T-Rex Electric 624 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,280 Warrior on vinyl. 625 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,320 Bet that was eating at you, couldn't sleep. 626 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:08,320 It was. 627 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,120 Yeah, well it wasn't that bad. 628 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:16,480 But great glam rock, early days, dirty, stones-y, just good stuff. 629 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:17,480 I think it's overlooked. 630 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:18,480 Dirty and sweet. 631 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:23,160 Love the hubcap diamond star halo. 632 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,160 Yeah. 633 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,160 Just some kooky little lines. 634 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:31,440 I think Mark Bolan was wired differently than others. 635 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:36,080 The way he put words together was unrepeatable. 636 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,080 Well what are you digging? 637 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,080 Let us know. 638 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,440 Check us on social media, Facebook, Instagram, and threads. 639 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:47,760 Also on our website, AlbumNerds.com. 640 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:52,800 It will be a discovery of extraordinary value. 641 00:33:52,800 --> 00:34:00,040 Well, it's about that time on the show when I'm reminded of the great US president, Harry 642 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,040 S. Truman. 643 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,040 Harry S. Truman? 644 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,720 That's what it sounded like. 645 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:06,720 Let the record show. 646 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,200 I did not say that. 647 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:13,840 Yeah, I was trying to be respectful, but not all of us clearly could do that. 648 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:19,600 Mr. Truman, who said, America was not built on fear. 649 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:24,480 America was built on courage, on imagination, and an unbeatable determination to do the 650 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,520 job at hand. 651 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,080 With that in mind, let's bring out my friend in here as a wild bot to see what we'll be 652 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:38,360 talking about next time. 653 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,560 The summer of Don continues. 654 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:45,100 With that in mind, I will be choosing which albums from Don's curated list you will be 655 00:34:45,100 --> 00:34:46,760 exploring this summer. 656 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:51,020 Next time, you will experience David Bowie's final album, Black Star. 657 00:34:51,020 --> 00:34:56,680 It is a haunting and experimental farewell released just days before his death. 658 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,840 Black Star, that's exciting because we didn't get to dig in. 659 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:05,200 We just kind of talked about it briefly, I think around the time he passed away and it 660 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,200 just come out. 661 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,880 So yeah, getting to dig into some modern Bowie, his swan song. 662 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:10,880 It's going to be fun. 663 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:11,880 Can't wait. 664 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:12,880 Black Swan song, you could say. 665 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:13,880 There you go. 666 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:14,880 All right. 667 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,320 Well, don't forget, we do have an ongoing Elbnerds Hall of Fame vote in progress. 668 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,320 You can go to our website, elbnerds.com. 669 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:22,320 U-S-A. 670 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,400 Vote for Bruce Springsteen's Born in the USA, yes or no? 671 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,040 Does it belong in the Hall of Fame? 672 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,080 Rock the vote, USA. 673 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:36,040 Okay, does Born in the USA belong in the Elbnerds Hall of Fame? 674 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,920 What do you think of David Bowie's final album? 675 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:39,920 Let us know. 676 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,840 Leave a comment on our website or email us at podcast at elbnerds.com. 677 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:47,400 You can follow us on Facebook, Instagram and threads at Elbnerds. 678 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,400 And please subscribe, rate and review on your favorite podcast app. 679 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:55,640 And if you'd like to support the show, you can do so via paypal at elbnerds.com slash 680 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:56,640 support. 681 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,640 Thank you for joining us here on the Elbnerds Podcast. 682 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,640 We'll catch you next time with some Black Star. 683 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,640 Thanks for listening everybody. 684 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,640 See you next time. 685 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:11,640 America, America, God shed his grace on thee. 686 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:12,640 What? 687 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,640 Trying to go do kind of Ray Charles-ish or something. 688 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,640 Oh, I thought you were doing an Elvis thing. 689 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:19,640 Oh. 690 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:20,640 It was the vibrato. 691 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:25,640 Wait, stay jealous. 692 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:52,640 And pay for it.