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Welcome to the Album Nerds podcast with your hosts, Andy, Don, and Dude.

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Hi Don, I don't want to do this anymore.

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It's the Album Nerds podcast.

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That's good.

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Hi dude, I got Andy and Don with me.

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How you guys doing this beautiful summer of Don?

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You about to turn this car right around and take us back home on our summer vacation,

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man?

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Don't make me do it.

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I'm going to put my hand behind the seat and start slapping randomly, see what knees I

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can get.

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Don?

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You know what?

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I went to the eye doctor yesterday and I got a new prescription for my contacts and now

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I have inner visions.

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Wow.

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That felt like a long one.

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Swing and a miss.

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Oh yeah.

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That was rough.

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All right, so this is the Album Nerds podcast.

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We love albums, the album format.

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We love music and we hope you do too.

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We've got a great show for you this week.

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We're going to continue this beautiful summer of Don and revisit Stevie Wonder's inner visions.

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We'll get into the nitten grid on that one.

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Don is going to ask us a deep and probing question.

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Then we're going to have some shout outs to some albums and album related items that we're

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digging and then we're going to spin that wheel of musical discovery to find out where

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this kooky summer of Don is going to take us next.

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But this week it's time to look inward.

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I proclaim this the summer of Donnie Lakey.

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That's what I'm talking about.

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So the summer of Don continues and if you've been basking in the rays with us, you know

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that I went back into the Album Nerds archives and made a list of records that were previously

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covered before I joined the show.

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I gave that list to Wadbot.

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She put it on the wheel of musical discovery and she keeps providing us records to talk

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about each week.

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So this week we're going to revisit an album you discussed in episode 138 Stevie Wonder's

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Inner Visions.

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I think in a sense being able to make a person be so emotionally involved in a particular

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thing that they can cry about it or can smile about it.

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It can be any kind of song but as long as you're really for real about it.

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So Inner Visions was released in August 1973.

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Let's hear a song called Living for the City.

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And the vocal accompaniment that is an instrument in and of itself kind of adds some depth to

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Living for the City depicts the story of a young black man born in hard time Mississippi

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experiencing discrimination while looking for work.

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He eventually goes to New York City in hopes of a better life but basically gets framed

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for a crime and ends up in jail.

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Like most of the album Stevie Wonder plays a majority of the instruments on that track.

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So this is the 16th studio album by the American singer, songwriter and musician.

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Actually his real name is Steve Lynn.

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I've never heard that before.

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Steve Lynn Hardaway Morris of Saginaw, Michigan.

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In 1950.

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So that means when this came out he was 23.

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Yeah, it's his 16th album.

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And so this kind of falls in the middle of I guess what critics call his classic period.

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There's a stretch of like five albums in a row that are considered his perhaps best or

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most important.

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Well, yeah, it's when he for the first time in his career total creative control.

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So I think probably the passion in the writing for those that handful of records over the

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five year period or so would just must he must have been bursting with ideas.

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He stopped being little Stevie Wonder.

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So as I said, you guys discussed the album in episode 138.

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What were your thoughts then?

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What are they now?

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I think back in 138 I was mostly struck by the positivity and just kind of the high energy,

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the vibe that's pervasive on each of the tracks here.

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And yeah, Stevie's able to like makes this very bouncy happy sounding music and mix in

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some really hard hitting truths of life and some good lessons and just makes it a really

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interesting lesson on kind of like both sides of the brain.

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In that living for the city song, that last verse he's like, oh, I hope this story teaches

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you a lesson or something.

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So he turns it into like a positive thing.

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It's not just sad.

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I think he's trying to put a positive spin on all these situations, whether they're

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good or bad and trying to get something good out of it.

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For me, on our last talk about this, I focused a lot on living for the city and its ability

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to tell a story with the skits within it where you hear the police and just the creativity

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behind it of really selling this story and making it come to life.

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But we also, we got into a bunch of different songs, but still that mix of funk, soul, jazz,

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rock and roll is as enjoyable now as it was then.

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I think I had a really great week of listening and I was able to learn a few new things and

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did a little more headphone time, listened more intently to the lyrics, I think, than

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I think I was trying to present more than experience.

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So we'll see how it goes.

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It was a pleasure for me to spend more time with Stevie Wonder.

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He's grown up, to me he was Ebony and Ivory and part-time lover and that kind of stuff.

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I just come to say I love you.

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In my 20s, I think I kind of learned how significant he was.

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So yeah, it's always a pleasure to listen to these classic albums.

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So let's hear another track.

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This is All in Love is Fair.

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Yeah, you really get to hear him sing on some of these songs.

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It's not all funky, quick delivery.

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I mean, that song really stands out to me.

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It's just been...

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It's a lovely performance from his own, which just stands out because he has such a great

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I don't know, to me, coming back to this, just the quality from track to track, even

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though he does...

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He's dealing with a variety of different sounds on the record.

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We've got funk, electro pop, Latin, R&B, obviously soul.

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But just the quality is so high on each track.

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Each track really feels like its own thing, its own little piece of artwork that's kind

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of worthy of spending time with.

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So my clickbait headline for this album is Wonder plays 40 Chess against himself for

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Just kind of imagine if you clone Stevie Wonder and put five of them in a room together and

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they're all playing these songs as a group.

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It's just such a high level and to know that he's involved at every level of it is just

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so impressive.

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Is 4D chess a real thing?

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I know there's 3D chess in Star Trek.

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Is there 4D chess?

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What would be the fourth dimension?

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Stevie Wonder's creativity is the fourth dimension.

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Stevie brings his own dimension.

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It's just great that some of these serious songs can really still have a fun and funky

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I'm sure I'm going to do more comparing it to Marvin Gaye and what's going on.

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I could be mistaken, but I don't think there's a lot of strings on this album.

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Especially in this period when those tools were fun for these artists to be able to,

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in the studio, not have to wait for an orchestra to come, but to be able to play around with

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at least what it would sound like with that kind of fill.

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For me, this song, it's about the heartbreak as a part of a relationship, but it balances

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out the euphoric feeling of Golden Lady where it's that new relationship.

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It's all so rapturing.

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And this is more the truths of sometimes the challenges that can come in relationships

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and either giving up or continuing to fight for your loves.

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So you mentioned Golden Lady, which butts right up to Living for the City.

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And then we have All Is Fair, which butts right up to Don't You Worry About a Thing,

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which is another high energy funky track.

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I thought you guys had all these ballads paired up against these more high energy tracks.

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It makes for kind of a, I don't know, not necessarily uneven listen, but up and down

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kind of energy scale.

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I think it wasn't disconcerting to me.

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I kind of like the up and down of it.

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I mean, for me, I guess, Inner Visions and Stevie painting this picture of how he sees

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life and life has its ups and downs, energy changes from moment to moment.

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You can be having a great day and then you're having a bad day or you can be having a bad

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day and something great can happen or something you've been waiting for comes through.

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I think for me, it just sort of feels like the pulse and the pace of life.

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It does feel alive.

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There's a crackle of energy, I think, to this whole album.

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There you go.

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Okay, well, let's hear another cut.

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This is the second track from the album called Vision.

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This is actually what inspired me to go to the eye doctor this week.

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Well, you came back around and you made it better.

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Yeah, so the lyrics in that song basically just deal with sort of picturing this more

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idealistic world where there isn't prejudice and hatred and stuff like that and I guess

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kind of asking the question, how far are we from that vision?

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That one, I don't even know what instrument that is there.

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It's kind of like some jazzy notes going on there, sort of really interesting track.

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And to have acoustic guitar sounds is nice too.

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It makes it more organic and kind of feeling like a lullaby.

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It's soothing, so its vision is painted in a dreamy way, so it does kind of feel like

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you're in Stevie's mind picturing this utopia where we're kind to one another regardless

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of our differences.

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I'm aware that the green leaves turn brown.

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I'm aware that things aren't always beautiful, but what if we just picture it for a while?

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I like that.

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Okay, well my clickbait headline is, wonder delivers stunning mid-career combination to

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take progressive soul heavyweight title.

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I don't know why I became a boxing man.

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But I was kind of thinking of it, well here's another genre that I wasn't even really aware

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existed before this progressive soul and it turns out I'm really into this stuff.

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So Marvin Gaye, Sly Stone and Stevie Wonder.

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And so I think what's going on, Marvin Gaye came out in like 71, the Sly Stone record

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we did, there's a riot going on.

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Was that 71 or two or something like that?

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So they came out with these amazing albums, but then you've got this period here where

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Stevie's doing this stuff.

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Kind of reminds me of that Brian Wilson, Paul McCartney rivalry, where Brian Wilson heard

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Rubber Soul and so he made Pet Sounds and then McCartney heard Pet Sounds and did Sergeant

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And I wonder if there was kind of a rivalry between Marvin Gaye and Stevie.

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They're both from Motown, they both had kind of similar career paths and they finally now

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have control over the music they're putting out.

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So interesting.

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I can't imagine this record existing without what's going on coming out first.

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I was thinking that none of those would have come out without like Miles Davis and other

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jazz artists, the Jazz Fusion Movement I think is the seed of a lot of this progressive soul

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music.

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I don't know, just an observation.

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It's all connected man.

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That's right, it is.

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As we've already talked about, somehow Stevie Wonder just seems to have a more positive

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vibe.

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I feel like Sly Stone and Marvin Gaye kind of have these demons that they're trying to

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work out and amazingly with Stevie Wonder, I don't really get that sense.

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Here's somebody who's been faced with great challenges and he was a child prodigy and

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we know those kinds of things.

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People struggle with that as they get older.

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But he seems like a guy at peace.

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I think at 23 being unleashed with your creativity and being able to, he was little Stevie Wonder,

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he played kind of jazzy songs, harmonica, he was controlled by Motown.

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I think the wave was cresting for him.

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So being a torture artist wasn't in the cards.

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I think the euphoria we feel through some of these songs is what he was feeling as he

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was creating it.

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It's like higher ground.

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I'm just kidding.

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Well, let's play another song.

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Speaking of, here is Higher Ground.

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So the word is Stevie wrote and recorded the song in a three hour burst of creativity

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in May of 1973 playing all the instruments, kind of moving through the phases of life

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and perhaps touching on concepts like reincarnation, like the things you do in this life.

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Well, karmically, where's that going to take you in the next?

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So the clickbait headline I chose for this album, Stevie Wonders about spirituality,

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love and humanity on intervisions, 44 minutes of introspective perfection.

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This song, I think, is a great example of that.

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Looking back at what you've done, what you will do, how does that size you up as a human

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And just trying to live your life with that in mind.

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You guys are a couple of evil sons bitches, so I'm not sure, but I think this song could

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do you some good.

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It's hard to resonate with someone whose soul is as black as mine.

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So me, like Stevie, I was thinking of him as being a humanitarian, just kind of looking

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out for his fellow brother or sister and trying to get us all to a better place.

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It's not so much about individuals, but kind of as a collective getting us to a higher

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ground, I guess you could say.

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I think his trick or what is special about this record or that track in particular was,

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that message at its core, I think, sounds very sappy and kind of pandering or something

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like maybe your parents would tell you or something wouldn't really resonate with me.

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Or you'd hear it in church, maybe.

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Yeah, it sounds kind of religious.

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He makes it sound just deeper and more elevated and more of a spiritual thing, and less of

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something you're being told or for your own good kind of thing.

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I really like the, I mean, of course I like the baseline.

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Yes, you do.

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It's a good baseline.

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But there's something about it, it's almost like the, it feels like the pulse of life

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for everything moving on.

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It's really effective.

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Well, the lyrics revolve around second chances and something that's come out since a few

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weeks after the album was released.

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Stevie got in a car accident.

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It was in a coma for quite a while.

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And apparently during his coma, his road manager, Ira Tucker Jr. was singing higher ground into

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his ear and eventually his fingers started moving to the beat of the song and that's

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when he started to come out of the coma.

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And so there's this conjecture out there that this was prophetic and that this, he got a

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second chance at life, which he had already written about.

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So his thinking about it and his desire to be better served him well after he was injured.

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It's interesting.

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So it's like Stevie Wonder in the past saves Stevie Wonder in the future.

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You take it however you want, but I saw it.

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That's a 4D chess set, man.

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It is an interesting way to think about it.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Well, this already lives in the Album Nerds Hall of Fame.

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So.

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Damn straight it does.

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No need to nominate.

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Is there like another level we can elevate it?

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Is there like a special floor where they-

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The platinum room?

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Yes.

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If there was, this would go there for sure.

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I mean, of this period, I know that like perhaps Talking Book is by many considered the best

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of this era, but I think Intervisions is my favorite.

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Yeah.

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I like songs in the Key of Life, but because it's a double album, I think it's a little

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harder to process.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You can't go wrong with this era.

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I mean, really, I think Stevie Wonder is pretty great, but this is definitely the classic

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period.

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All right.

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Well, so the album is Intervisions released in 1973 by Stevie Wonder.

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Excuse me.

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I'd like to ask you a few questions.

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Well, it's time again for Deep Questions by Don.

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Ow.

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It's so deep.

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Okay.

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All right.

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This one actually might be deep.

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So let's imagine Re-Unit and the Carnation is real.

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How would you want to come back?

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The Blaze of Glory on the third day.

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I mean, I kind of hope Re-Unit is a thing.

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I like the idea of it.

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That makes sense to me as a logical person that the things you do in this life would

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carry on to the next one.

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So yeah, I don't know.

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I guess the goal is just to come back and be better than you were before, right?

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So even if it's a little bit better.

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But the Andy of today, what's that next step or is it a step back, you evil son of a bitch?

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I'm going to go to the higher ground, man.

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I can't go backward.

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I mean, going backward, you come back like it was a horse or something.

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Horse?

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A horse is majestic.

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You'd come back as a slug or something if you're bad.

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Oh, geez.

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All the way down a slug?

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I assume it was like a scale of some kind you could rate this on, right?

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So what do you think?

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Are you at least a human in the next life or something?

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Fingers crossed for at least human.

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Maybe not.

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As handsome of a human as I am.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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Do you want to come back as a different creature, dude?

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No, I want to come back as myself or at least something very close.

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I am happy with life and I try to think about other people and be kind except you guys.

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And maybe that's what will knock me back a bit.

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But like the life I lived growing up in a, you know, every family's got its stuff.

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I grew up in a generally happy home, happy childhood, had food to eat, a roof over my

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head.

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I had a lot that a lot of people don't have.

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So I'd be lucky to come back and just have the same level, you know?

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I'm not asking for more.

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I don't want to be a superstar or any of that stuff.

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If I could just get this again, that'd be good.

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Yeah, that's a good point, man.

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The three of us got pretty lucky, I would say, with our lives so far.

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That sounds pretty healthy.

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I definitely wouldn't want to come back as Don.

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Too much crying in my pillow listening to The Cure.

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Oh, jeez.

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No, you probably will come back as someone.

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Here, I was going to say, you've probably, sounds like you've already reached the highest

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level.

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I just dropped out.

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There it goes.

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Well, I said, you guys are the exception of my kindness.

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Yeah.

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So it sounds like we're kind of operating under the assumption that you kind of go levels,

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which I think is kind of like the Buddhist thing.

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But I was also thinking, if it was just random, your odds of becoming anything other than

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bacteria, or just a single cell, like a cell or something.

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So whatever the next thing that's being created, whether it's a human being born, a calf being

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born, whatever it is, or a paramecium, that's what you're going to be.

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Interesting.

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That kind of blows my mind.

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Like I wonder, because as human beings, we have consciousness.

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We sort of know we exist.

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And I assume my dog knows he exists.

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But I wonder for plants and little single celled organisms, if they have any sort of

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consciousness at all.

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Well, you really should think about that, since you're a vegetarian and your whole thing

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is that you don't want to hurt any creature.

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I mean, every piece of lettuce you chew on, it's like, ah, ah.

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Boy, have science ever discovered that lettuce has feelings?

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So then I just don't eat?

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Yeah.

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Just the water diet.

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Yeah, but the water is like hitting the acid in your stomach.

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It's like, no.

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OK, what do you want to come back as in the next life?

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Let us know.

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Hit us up on the socials, Facebook, Instagram, and threads.

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Also on our website, albumnerds.com.

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Can you dig it?

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Can you dig it?

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Can you dig it?

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Can you dig it?

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Can you dig it?

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Can you dig it?

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Can you dig it?

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Can you dig it?

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Can you dig it?

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All right, so it's the summer of dawn and we got to enjoy the sounds of Stevie Wonder.

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But did you find time to dig anything else?

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Oh, you know I did, man.

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Yeah, yeah, I got my 70s duffel bag full of new releases over here.

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Let's start with Carolyn Shaw, the composer, violinist, and vocalist from Greenville, North

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Carolina.

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She has a new record out entitled Rectangles and Circumstances.

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Good title, yeah?

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Good album art as well.

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Let's play a little bit of the title cut.

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Kind of a Judy Collins situation going on there.

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Yeah, her voice is on some similar.

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Yeah, I guess she's a classical composer.

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I don't really hear a lot of classical on this album.

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Sounds more modern, but yeah, it sounds interesting to me.

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Stole a trick from Tool and using geometry for song titles.

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And that parallelogram lady.

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Oh yeah, Linda Perhox.

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Yeah, you always remember.

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I can never remember her name.

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The dental hygienist.

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Yes, that's right.

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All right, and take a sharp left turn for ulcerates next.

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Cutting the throat of God.

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I'm not sure how I feel about that title.

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Sacrilege.

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It is, but it's kind of their deal.

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They're an extreme metal group from New Zealand.

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This is their seventh full length.

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We'll play a little bit of the second cut.

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This is The Dawn is Hollow.

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The Dawn?

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Kind of a Judy Collins vibe.

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Oh wait.

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Wow.

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Pretty much.

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Very dense, intense record from them, but it seems to be in line with their previous

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output if you're a fan.

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And last one for me is from John Kell.

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There's a new album called Popticle Illusion.

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Popticle Illusion.

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I get it.

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I don't know how I feel about that title.

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Popticle.

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So was today the theme like cool titles?

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Yeah.

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Cool and questionable titles.

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I could not figure out what number studio album this was for him.

440
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The guy has a huge discography.

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I kind of underestimated it.

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Yeah.

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A lot of collaborations and stuff too.

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Yeah.

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Just involved a lot of music over the years.

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Obviously a founding member of the Velvet Underground.

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I believe the first single is this track here called How We See the Lights.

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It sounds a little 80s synth pop beat to me.

449
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I don't know.

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It's got a little bit of a Thompson Twins vibe or something.

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Yeah.

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It reminds me of the album that he did with Brian Eno back in 1990 called Wrong Way Up.

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Kind of a similar sort of pop, kind of synthy sound, which I think is really effective.

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Yeah.

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I've been enjoying the record quite a bit so far.

456
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What you been digging on, Don?

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Well, if you remember back a couple of years ago when I first joined the show, we did an

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album from a duo called the Cactus Blossoms.

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I do.

460
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Nice.

461
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They're back, brothers Jack Tory and Paige Berkham.

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A new album coming out in August.

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They've dropped a couple of tracks.

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This is There She Goes, not a cover of the Great Law song.

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Thank God.

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It sounds about right.

467
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It's got that nice laid back vibe that I remember from the last record.

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Is it kind of in their wheelhouse throughout?

469
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I think so.

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They've only dropped two so far.

471
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Yeah, they all kind of sound like the last one, but we'll see if any ground is broken.

472
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I'm hearing a little Tom Petty here.

473
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Yeah.

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He's pretty and kind of spiky.

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Spiky.

476
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I get it.

477
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Cactus.

478
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So actually, I went back in the past and I don't know something about the warm weather

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and kind of driving around.

480
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I kind of like to listen to oldies, stuff from the 50s.

481
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They exist in different places, but there's an album by Elvis Presley compilation that

482
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was released in 1999 called Sunrise, which is probably the best collection of his Sun

483
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recordings that he recorded with Sam Phillips.

484
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It's multi-discs.

485
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You only have to listen to the first disc because the rest are kind of outtakes.

486
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You listen to them once, but if you want an album experience, you just need disc one.

487
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So here's Mystery Train.

488
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Oh yeah, still a lot of country going on in his sound at this point.

489
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Yeah, it's like true rockabilly.

490
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I'm sure I just romanticize it or something, but I just love this era or this sort of clean

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sound.

492
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It really highlights just, I think, how much of a vocal talent he is.

493
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:48,480
Anyway, and then it's only music adjacent, but I watched a documentary from the actor

494
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,840
Andrew McCarthy called Bratz, and it's all about basically how that-

495
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,880
Self-promotion, maybe.

496
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:02,040
It's all about that term Brat Pack that he and his fellow actors from like The Breakfast

497
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:08,280
Club and St. Elmo's Fire, that term that was placed on them and how it affected their careers

498
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:09,400
and stuff like that.

499
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:10,400
So it's interesting.

500
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:16,560
It's kind of fun if you remember that period fondly, but it's less about reminiscing about

501
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:23,960
that time and more about the psychological impact having that label put on them ahead.

502
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,440
Yeah, that's on my radar to check out.

503
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,920
I do remember that period fondly as well.

504
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,640
Oh, it brought them down, huh?

505
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:32,640
I see.

506
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:33,640
Yeah.

507
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,560
I mean, this is like a take on the Rat Pack, right?

508
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:42,040
Yeah, because a lot of these people were appearing in movies together.

509
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:46,880
So there was like Molly Ringwald and Rob Lowe, Emilio Estevez.

510
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:53,080
So these people were starring in youth-oriented movies for the most part together.

511
00:28:53,080 --> 00:29:02,040
So they had created this sort of subgenre of movie, and you expected at least one of

512
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,400
them to be in any given film.

513
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:05,400
Yeah.

514
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,960
And they were out supposedly partying, or at least some of them.

515
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:13,320
So it kind of had that, you know, the same vibe as Dean Martin and Frank Sinatra and

516
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,640
Sammy Davis painting the town.

517
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:16,640
Okay.

518
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:17,640
Did.

519
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:18,640
Did.

520
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:19,640
All right.

521
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:20,640
Yeah.

522
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,440
So our friend, Luke Combs is back.

523
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,280
Fifth studio album called Fathers and Sons.

524
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,080
We'll play a little bit of Front Door Famous.

525
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:42,600
The song and the album are an ode to fatherhood and family.

526
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,200
Luke was involved in most of the songwriting.

527
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:49,080
It's a little bit more traditional country, a little less pop country vibes in it.

528
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,200
A little looser and less produced.

529
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,080
It's a nice Sunday album.

530
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:57,280
It came out last Friday, and it was good to listen to on Father's Day.

531
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:58,800
Sounds pretty good.

532
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,200
Yeah, definitely check it out.

533
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:05,360
I mean, if you like any of Luke's songs, even if you don't like them all, this is kind of

534
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,120
the most hard on his sleeve record I've heard so far.

535
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:10,120
Okay.

536
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,120
Check it out.

537
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:12,120
I don't believe you.

538
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:16,200
Just added it to my Spotify library.

539
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,720
Motherfucker.

540
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,480
See how they treat each other.

541
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:22,480
All right.

542
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,360
So next one up, Paul McCartney and Wing's One Hand Clapping.

543
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:33,040
It's a live studio album recorded in 1974, in August of 74, and just released June 14th,

544
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,040
2024.

545
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:41,560
Here's a little bit of My Love Does It Good.

546
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:48,160
So apparently it was conceived as a documentary, and so it was filmed, and it was going to

547
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,560
go out to movie theaters, and an album was going to go out, but it never happened.

548
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:58,880
I guess in November of 2010, they released the film as a part of a box set, but they

549
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,800
finally released the album.

550
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,120
So it's the greatest hits.

551
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:07,000
There's some Beatles songs and McCartney and Wing's songs, but it's all live recorded in

552
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,000
the studio.

553
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,600
And it's cool hearing these songs a little more raw.

554
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,920
Man, his voice sounds so good.

555
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:18,120
So it's kind of like Let It Be or Get Back, the live in the studio thing.

556
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,360
That's cool.

557
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,740
And lastly, got to get in one of my albums from my vinyl collection.

558
00:31:23,740 --> 00:31:26,080
My wife actually picked it up a few years ago.

559
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:32,120
Cyndi Lauper's She's So Unusual, with the classic song, like Girls Just Wanna Have Fun, and

560
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,260
Time After Time.

561
00:31:36,260 --> 00:31:43,320
So I recently very much enjoyed a documentary on Paramount Plus called Let the Canaries

562
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,320
Sing.

563
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:50,440
It's all about Cyndi's career, the band Blue Angel she was in before going solo, the struggle

564
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:55,200
to get her music out, her vocal talent that I never really thought about.

565
00:31:55,200 --> 00:32:00,240
But she has a beautiful voice and it's really highlighted well throughout the documentary.

566
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:05,360
It gets into some of the reasons why some of her social consciousness and some of the

567
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,440
work she's done for LGBTQ and all of that.

568
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,840
You get into the whys throughout her life.

569
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,600
It's a really great story, a fun watch.

570
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:15,600
Highly recommend.

571
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,800
You guys, Cyndi Lauper, familiar besides the singles?

572
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,280
I actually saw her open for somebody.

573
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,040
I think Tina Turner or something back in the day and I was impressed.

574
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,680
Yeah, she's always on my radar for these 80s episodes we do.

575
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,080
I'm surprised you haven't talked about her yet, honestly.

576
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,440
All right, so what are you digging?

577
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:32,440
Let us know.

578
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:37,120
Join us on the socials, Facebook, Instagram, and threads, and also on our website, AlbumNerds.com.

579
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:44,520
It will be a discovery of extraordinary value.

580
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:52,120
Well, it's about that point on the program and I'm reminded of the great Chinese philosopher

581
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:58,120
Confucius who said, by three methods we may learn wisdom.

582
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,080
First by reflection, which is noblest.

583
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,640
Second by imitation, which is easiest.

584
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,680
And third by experience, which is bitterest.

585
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:12,520
With that in mind, let's bring out my friend and yours, Wodbot, to see what we'll be talking

586
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:21,560
about on next week's episode.

587
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,640
The summer of Don continues.

588
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:28,160
With that in mind, I will be choosing which albums from Don's curated list you will be

589
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,740
exploring this summer.

590
00:33:29,740 --> 00:33:34,600
Next time, you will experience a true working class hero with Bruce Springsteen's Born in

591
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:35,600
the USA.

592
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:40,240
That's perfect timing to have Born in the USA come up while we're pushing into 4th of

593
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:45,200
July and all that stuff, especially if you're born down in a dead man's town.

594
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,400
I think everybody was.

595
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:54,240
Yeah, don't forget, you can suggest topics for the wheel on our website, AlbumNerds.com,

596
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,680
as well as vote for any ongoing Album Nerds Hall of Fame nominations.

597
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,640
What do you think of Bruce Springsteen Born in the USA?

598
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,240
How about Stevie Wonder's inner visions?

599
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,240
Let us know.

600
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,640
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601
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,240
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602
00:34:13,240 --> 00:34:16,160
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603
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:21,800
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604
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,920
Thank you so much for joining us on the program.

605
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:24,920
Album Nerds podcast.

606
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:25,920
We'll catch you next time.

607
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:26,920
Born in the USA.

608
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:27,920
Thanks for listening, my brother.

609
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:28,920
See you next week.

610
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:29,920
Hey, little girl, is your daddy home?

611
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:30,920
Did he go and leave you home?

612
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:35,920
Is it the babysitter coming?

613
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:44,840
You want to hear about my bad desire?

614
00:34:44,840 --> 00:35:01,880
I don't care if you're on fire.

