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Welcome to the Album Nerds podcast with your hosts, Andy, Don, and Dude.

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420 bros.

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Hello, it's Dude.

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It's Album Nerds podcast.

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I got Andy and Don with me.

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We're going to be celebrating 420 but in a different way.

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You guys ready?

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Hey man, I can celebrate two things on one day.

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It's no problem.

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Are you excited for record store day, Don?

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Put the needle on the record.

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Put the needle on the record.

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Remember that song?

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Pump up the volume.

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Oh yes.

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Yeah, that sound just like the sample.

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That's why I was confused.

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I thought you started the song.

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Yeah, happens a lot.

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All right, so this is the Album Nerds podcast.

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We love talking about albums, the album format, and generally having some very healthy male

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bonding.

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Got a great show for you today.

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We're going to be talking about record store day on April 20th and getting into some, getting

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into three album picks that will be released on that day.

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Don's going to ask us a deep question.

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So deep.

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We're going to do some shout outs to some album related items that we're digging and

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then we're going to spin the wheel of musical discovery to find out what we'll talk about

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next time.

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But this week, it's all about record store day.

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It's called a record store.

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That's what I'm talking about.

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Record store day is an annual event inaugurated in 2007 to celebrate the culture of the independently

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owned record store.

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It is held on one Saturday, every April and every Black Friday in November.

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The day brings together fans, artists, and thousands of independent record stores around

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the world.

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Many records are pressed specifically for record store day with a list of releases for

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each country and are only distributed to shops participating in the event.

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This year's record store day takes place on April 20th.

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And today, each of us will present an album that will have a special edition for record

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store day 2024.

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Yeah.

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And to celebrate, we talked with a friend of the show, Benji, who's a record store owner

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in Grand Haven, Michigan, off the record, it's the name of his store.

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So why don't we hear from him and see what he has to say about RSD, as they call it,

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the kids, the kids, the kids in the industry.

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So excited to be on the show.

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Thank you for having me.

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I'm excited to talk about record store day at off the record in Grand Haven.

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It's a huge day for me.

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I listen to the community.

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I see what people want to have in here.

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I go for those records.

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And luckily this year, it's one of the best record store days I've seen.

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So many titles coming out.

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I'm personally always stoked on the jazz dispensaries.

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That's one of my favorite ones that come.

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I've got a bunch of those coming this year.

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Dr. John's got Gris Gris Gumbo dropping.

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That's one of my favorites.

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And anything Grateful Dead, the Jerry Garcia band's Electric Eel is going to be dope.

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But for us, that's a day for me too, to show appreciation to the vinyl community.

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That's a day for me to say thank you to all of the shop family that come in here.

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So we'll have free food from Carvers in Grand Rapids.

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They come out and they're going to be cooking epic tacos for us all day long, starting at

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Our cafe will open at 5 a.m. so you can get a warm cup of coffee while you're waiting

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in line.

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The door's open at 8.

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We're going to have some live music, get some free food, get a cup of coffee.

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Let's have some fun.

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And it's on 420.

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That's my favorite day of the year.

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Like I am.

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Big thing too for me is make sure if you live in a certain community and you have a small

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independent record store, go in on that record store day and buy these records that you can

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only get at those stores on that day.

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You're not going to be at the big box stores.

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That's why record store day is so important.

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It's an opportunity for the small guys to get records for you that mean something.

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So be sure to support that local record store no matter where it's at and show up.

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420 is going to be a day and there's amazing albums dropping.

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Amazing.

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So keep talking about records and have me on your show live one of these days because

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I want to talk some shit with you guys.

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Hopefully get to talk to you all again soon.

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Thanks, Benji.

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He's excited.

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Yeah, it's like Christmas and April here guys.

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I mean it's a big day.

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I love how he talks about the shop family.

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That's such a nice term because it is such a community for people that don't collect

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or don't go to record stores.

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It's become more friendly than it used to be.

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It used to be kind of snobby.

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Back in the day I feel like it's a more friendly environment than it used to.

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So thanks again to Benji for helping us out there.

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So a big list of record store day releases, many of which are singles, live things, compilations,

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lot of cool stuff, but not a ton of actual full length LPs or albums.

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So we dug from that list.

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How'd you guys do?

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Did pretty well.

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There's a little gems in here, things you wouldn't necessarily expect or maybe wouldn't

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be like the go-to record for an artist, but there's some cool stuff.

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I'll throw out a couple that I was enjoying, a Little Richard record.

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It was really enjoyable from the 1973 call to Right Now.

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It's got a few of his hits on it.

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Not super lengthy, but it's got a good Little Richard energy.

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Also from that same period, Elton John's Caribou, one of his more popular.

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The Bitch is Back.

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Yeah, really a fun record.

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Quite a few hits on there.

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Also part of record store day.

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Just to clarify, The Bitch is Back is a song on the album.

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I'm not calling Elton John a bitch.

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Although I think he was referring to himself in that song, but that's different.

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I'll mention one more record I almost picked for today's show from a duo called Nightmares

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on Wax.

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They put out this cool chip-hop record in the late 90s called Carboot Soul.

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Have you guys ever heard of them?

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It was such a big record for me at the time.

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But then looking back on it, I don't think anybody else ever listened to it.

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So I'm glad to see it's getting some notoriety now.

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How about you, Don?

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Well, The Cure are putting out a 40th anniversary picture disc of their 1984 album, The Top,

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which is one of my favorites.

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Also Alex Chilton, kind of a cult artist, was in the box tops and big star.

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He has an album called Clichés, which seems to be out of print.

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And so that's getting a vinyl release and hopefully it'll show up on the streaming services.

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And also the English singer, Kristi McCall.

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You might know her from that POG song, The Fairy Tale of New York.

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She had an album from 1993 called Titanic Days, which is pretty good.

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That's getting a vinyl release.

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Some of the things, if you look at the Record Store Day list, they have different categories.

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Some only have a limited number of pressings and a Record Store Day only.

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There are other things that are released on Record Store Day that will continue to exist.

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So you do have a shot of getting some of this stuff even at a crowded store.

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and I found Black Sabbath Paranoid, which I thought about.

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It's very doomy, but I wanted something with a little more energy, a little more zazoo.

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I'll call it.

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You brought the zazoo in my friend.

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I also listened for the first time to Collective Soul's Dosage, which is getting a Record Store

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Day release on vinyl.

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Collective Soul, I like many of their songs.

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For me, they're more of a greatest hits band than an album band.

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I just couldn't get into the whole thing, but it was a fun exploration.

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Then I wanted to do Pearl Jam's new album, Dark Matter, which comes out on April 19th.

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Then a special edition is being released the next day on Record Store Day, but I couldn't

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listen to it, so we couldn't really talk about it here.

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Maybe next time.

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All right, so enough about what we were looking at.

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Why don't we talk about what we picked?

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You choose me?

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I mean, for instance, the record with Madlib, lyrically, just to step into his realm of

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beats and bring my type of shit to it.

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Is there a jackhammer in the background?

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Yes.

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I didn't know that before.

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That's how you do a professional interview, make sure there's a jackhammer in the background.

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That's how you know they're on the streets.

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Talking about turning up the streets.

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All right, so that was Freddie Gibbs talking about his 2014 album, Piñata.

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Would you say it's a plethora of piñatas?

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From Three Amigos?

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Yeah, that's from Three Amigos.

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I just wanted to say.

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Plethora of piñatas, yes.

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Okay, so this is the first collaboration for Mr. Gibbs and Madlib.

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So Freddie Gibbs at this point was mostly known for his gangster rap style.

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Madlib was more associated with kind of more of a left field approach to hip hop, best

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known for his work with like MF Doom, who we talked about in the show, J Dilla, kind

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of in the early 2000s there.

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So it's kind of a weird mixture was what kind of made this record special at the time, these

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two kind of guys from different ends of the spectrum of hip hop.

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Yeah, I'm surprised he didn't try and get Sudoku, the other producer.

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I was just thinking of Madlibs.

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Madlibs, yeah, yeah, good jokes, guys.

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That's funny.

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All right, why don't we jump in here and play the lead single.

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This is called Thuggin.

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There's a lot of mother trucking going on there.

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Yeah, definitely a fairly explicit album in terms of the lyrical content.

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But you know, it's a very real album in terms of what Mr. Gibbs is rapping about.

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And the quote here I have from this record, this track in particular, what I'm rapping

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is what I'm living.

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I'm using rap as a vehicle to get me away from that type of living.

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So this record was recorded over a three year period and Mr. Gibbs' life.

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He's from Gary, Indiana, which is a pretty rough part of the country.

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He was a drug dealer kind of in that game.

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He talks pretty explicitly about that game during most of this record.

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the end of this album.

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is pretty interesting.

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My clickbait headline is Gibbs busts open a flavorful portrayal of life on the streets

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of Gary, Indiana.

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Bust it wide open.

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Like a pinata.

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There you go.

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The album was originally supposed to be titled Cocaine Pinata, I think has a little different

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context around it than just pinata.

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Those can be important because you want to set the tone before someone sees the cover

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of your album, but you don't want to drive people away either.

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I imagine that's why it was changed.

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If I had to guess, maybe that was a little too polarizing for some.

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Well it sounds more like a celebration of cocaine rather than the stories of having

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to do what he had to do to survive.

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Which this record is really more, it doesn't paint a rosy picture of that street lifestyle

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by any means.

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It's pretty explicit in painting it in a very dark light, I would say.

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It doesn't sound like something you'd really be striving for.

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Maybe you're striving to get it away from, if anything.

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Let's play another cut from the record here.

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This is track three called Deeper.

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Really should have been the opening track, you know, because usually the first cut is

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the deepest.

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Oh God.

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Really?

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Is Cheryl Crowe reference right now?

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I think it was Rod Stewart first, wasn't it?

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Yeah, I had the crow on the brain there.

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I'm sure very influential.

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So yeah, that one actually I think has a little bit to do with love for, I don't know.

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Sounds like there's two men that are basically dealing with a woman who's cut them.

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Hey, there's cut them deep.

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So it's harsh.

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You know, I think this whole album is a bit harsh, but my clickbait headline is, Freddy

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Gibbs completes mad lib with gritty adjectives.

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There you go.

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The mad lib angle.

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So yeah, this was a real shock to my system after kind of immersing myself in the hip

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hop we did during the OMTV raps episode.

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In the early 90s, late 80s stuff.

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Yeah.

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A little more party atmosphere.

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Even amongst the darkness, there was light.

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Yeah.

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And this was a total eclipse.

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We didn't touch on the sort of the gangster rap.

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And I don't know, I think those, you know, Guru and Rakim, you know, they were more sort

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of observational and maybe they were saying more big picture things.

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But with, you know, Freddy Gibbs seems to be more.

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NWA.

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Yeah.

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You know, West Coast kind of feel.

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Yeah.

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And it's like you're immersed in the scene, you know, so it's more about like experiencing

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what's happening rather than actually like saying something about what's happening.

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Kind of like an urban poet sort of thing, you know.

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There were moments where he reminded me of Tupac.

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Yeah.

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People definitely compare the two.

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Do they?

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Okay.

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I think I know more about this than I thought because my conclusion is other people's, then

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that makes me feel better about it.

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Yeah.

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And yeah, the lyrics are kind of rough and gritty, but for the most part, the music isn't.

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And I think sometimes it works and then in other times it's not quite as good.

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Yeah.

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That's kind of what set this product apart was like I was saying, these two different,

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very different styles kind of juxtaposing each other.

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I think what set Gibbs apart or why he's, you know, become fairly prominent in hip hop

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space since then is his ability to work against these beats that are kind of more in flux

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and shifting and you know, madly deals a lot of these like old school like soul samples

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and they're kind of woozy and coming in and out of pitch.

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And it's pretty hard for an MC to kind of stay on that beat if the beat is like constantly

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shifting.

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So I think having that mix here of the two of them together, yeah, it's not a 100% a

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slam dunk, but I think it did something interesting that they've been trying to reproduce since

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then.

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I mean, what did you guys think?

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Did you feel like this was pretty effective in terms of communicating his life and what

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he was going through in 2000 times?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It was like watching a movie, you know, like a gangster movie, kind of a street movie sort

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of thing.

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It's just, I don't know.

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It also reminded me of Nas at times in the way that he was able to paint the pictures

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and Gary, Indiana is an urban life in the same way as a giant city.

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I mean, it is a city, but it's a small city in the Midwest.

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Much poorer.

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Yeah.

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New York City.

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So it paints a bleaker picture and I can definitely see it.

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Yeah.

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Let's play another track from the album.

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This is towards the end.

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It's called Nicks.

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The lyrics kind of touch on the themes again, street life, survival, resilience, but the

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storytelling abilities here, I really like how he paints his vivid picture with the lyrics

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and this kind of theme of how life can feel cyclical.

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Kind of comparing eras of basketball to eras of his life is interesting.

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It captures that time, like 95 when Jordan came back from playing baseball for a while

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and came back to basketball, the cultural impact Michael Jordan's basketball playing

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had, like it was huge.

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And then the juxtapose those memories with the rough stuff going on, it really kind of

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helped set a scene for me as someone that remembers that time period very well and was

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living a much safer life than this guy was.

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It really kind of helped bring it all home for me.

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So I could connect with this one the most and really start to understand what he was

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talking about.

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I thought he'd be a Pacers fan.

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That's true.

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Where's the Reggie Miller track?

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No, no, no.

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I mean, you know, Gary is in Indiana, but during that time period, if you're anywhere

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close to Chicago, then you're a Bulls fan.

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Yeah.

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And most of the country was Bulls fans back in those days.

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Yeah, that's true.

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The clickbait headline I came up with for this one is put on a blindfold and take a

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swing, break the pinata to find hard hitting tales of street life and survival.

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So I also went with the breaking open a pinata, but yeah, good rhymes, dark storytelling,

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but it's compelling.

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It's not as fun as some other hip hop to listen to, I think because, you know, it's not as

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fun to watch the news as it is to watch a documentary.

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You know what I'm saying?

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So yeah, sure.

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It's a little bit, maybe a little too real to really have fun with.

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Yeah.

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I think this record holds up really well.

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If you haven't heard it, I think it's one of the better albums in the last decade in

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the hip hop space.

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So check it out.

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Freddie Gibbs, Madlib, pinata, available at record store days in a special 10 year anniversary

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package this year.

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I'm good enough.

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I'm smart enough and doggone it, people like me.

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Everybody would hit the floor.

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Even the church people.

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They started going and saying, them staple singers, they singing the devil's music.

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I did so many interviews.

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I had to let these people know that the devil ain't got no music.

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The devil ain't got no music.

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Amen.

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She's so good.

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So that's Mavis Staples.

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Staples?

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That's Mavis Staples and her record store day album is the 20th anniversary edition

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of her album, Have a Little Faith, released in 2004.

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This is the sixth studio album by the soul and gospel singer born in Chicago in 1939.

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She was a member of her family's band, the staple singers, which had a lot of success.

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You probably know the song, I'll Take You There.

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A very big influential band.

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So this was kind of a comeback album for her.

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She had to self finance it, but kind of got her back into recording.

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Let's hear the opening cut from the album.

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This is Step Into the Light.

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Kind of a traditional gospel sounding track.

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My clickbait headline is Music World Still Needs Mavis When She's 64.

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So little Beatles referencing.

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But yeah, she was 64 when this album came out and yeah, she sounds really young.

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Yeah, very alive.

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Yes.

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Vivid.

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Vivid.

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Vivid.

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A lot of energy.

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I was surprised actually by kind of the blues rock treatment to the album.

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I think I was expecting more like traditional gospel.

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A bunch of organ and stuff.

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Yeah, and piano.

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But it felt kind of country blues.

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Yeah, slumpy.

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Yes, which I think is very effective with her voice.

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She is a vocal talent.

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I wouldn't describe her voice as beautiful, but it's emotive and it has a lot of character

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and it is gospel.

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Yeah.

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She's got like one of those voices where you can like almost hear her smiling sort of as

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she's singing.

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She's such a great personality.

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It just shines through in every track.

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Well, if she's singing about love, you feel that love.

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If she's singing about God and faith, you feel that gospel celebratory sort of vibe.

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When her voice gets kind of gravely at times, she just is able to really emote everything

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in a unique way.

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It gives me all the feels.

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Yeah.

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She could sing a phone book.

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It's anything she's singing, exciting to listen to.

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Yeah.

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Positivity in music is not something I gravitate towards nor is religious.

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How was it standing in the sunshine for once when you're...

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I also don't really gravitate towards faith-based music, but it's just so pure and sincere.

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She's not selling me anything.

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She's just celebrating what she believes in and in a point of view and it's nice.

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Well, let's hear another track, classic sort of gospel country track, Will the Circle Be

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Unbroken?

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Will the circle, will it be unbroken?

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By and by, Lord, by and by.

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Yeah, we get sort of a Delta blues sort of...

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Yeah.

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A little bit swampy thump going on.

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It's nice.

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Yeah.

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So the song, Will the Circle Be Unbroken, has been recorded by many artists over the

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years.

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In 1907 by Ada R. Habersohn with music by Charles H. Gabriel, Christian hymn, themes

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of family, loss and reunion with family in the afterlife.

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In that eight-year period between albums, she had lost her father, Pops.

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And I think this was a celebration of him.

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I believe that this arrangement was partially his.

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So I think it was a celebration of her family and her father and that they'll all be together

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again someday in heaven.

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It's nice.

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Sassy, though.

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I've never heard this song be so like...

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Sassy.

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Have so much personality, you know?

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Clickbait headline I came up with for this one is, have a little faith in Mavis Staples,

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a performance powered by the soulful force of her voice.

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She makes you, like it's kind of a sit down young man and listen kind of a moment.

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She makes you listen with every song and that's pretty cool.

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What else can you ask for when an artist is laying it all out there, especially that far

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into their career where she loves what she's doing?

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Yeah.

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It feels like a pretty intimate record, especially with the tie to her father and her sister

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was sick at the time as well.

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She gets into a lot more personal details here than I expected or just later in her

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discography.

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And that tracks like Pops recipe where she really does get into like some specifics about

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her dad and kind of what legacy he left behind.

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He was her manager as well, if I recall, like as well as a, was he part of the band even

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in the back in the sixties?

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Yeah.

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He was the main songwriter and guitarist, I think.

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Yeah.

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A big part of their lives and it's nice.

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It's kind of serves as like a tribute to him here.

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And strangely there's very few references to office supplies.

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Yeah.

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I mean, it was our, maybe a coupon included in the liner notes where you could get 20%

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off printer paper.

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That was easy.

456
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All right.

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Well, let's, let's, let's hear another one.

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This is in times like these.

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It's one of the more modern sounding gospel tracks on the record there.

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I was trying to find some big critique on this album.

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I think that'd be my biggest critique is, you know, when it does go into those more

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modern directions, it doesn't sound quite as interesting to me, but it's also maybe

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staples.

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I'm not going to be with his critiques.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's always like this album is perfect, but the one thing.

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It's hard to critique someone like Mavis.

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She's such a national treasure in my opinion.

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My clickbait headline is nerds faith in modern gospel music restored with Mavis's return.

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It's so great to have her kind of just back in that music conversation and contributing

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to that space.

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Just such a great example for just living how people should be using their time on this

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earth.

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She's a good person and you really can hear on every track here.

476
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Yeah.

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I think it works best when it does deal more with that traditional blues and gospel sound,

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which is the majority of the record.

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But as it gets into those more modern sounds a little bit later on, I don't know, she would

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deal more with that sound later in her career.

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I think it sounds better than here.

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It just sounds a little bit like an awkward combination to me.

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Did you guys feel that at all?

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You seemed to like that song in particular.

485
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Honestly, I didn't notice, but you're more familiar with her discography than I am.

486
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Yeah.

487
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I don't know.

488
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I didn't really notice a big difference from track to track.

489
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I felt like it all kind of had that bluesy treatment.

490
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I didn't notice the more modern sounds to those.

491
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Sorry, Andy.

492
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You've been outvoted.

493
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That's okay.

494
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:40,840
I was impressed just how much, lyrically though, it was pretty simple.

495
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:45,520
There's not a lot of metaphor, everything's pretty much clear cut.

496
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:50,120
But you get so much emotion out of just her voice and the way she presents things.

497
00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:52,800
It's just really charming and it's likable.

498
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,800
Yeah, I mean, I can't imagine her ever putting out a bad record.

499
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,400
She just has such a high bar of quality for her music.

500
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:04,320
Though I don't know if she's ever really put out an epic classic record necessarily.

501
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,320
Yeah.

502
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:10,760
I think it's more of a story of consistency, just good music rather than like, I got it

503
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,680
like a classic album per se.

504
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,040
Yeah, but she always shows up and brings the quality.

505
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,040
Okay.

506
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:22,920
Well, as I said, Have a Little Faith is being released in a silver vinyl 20th anniversary

507
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:23,920
edition.

508
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,840
There's a reminiscence letter by Mavis with expanded artwork.

509
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,080
It's remastered on two LPs at 45 RPM.

510
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:35,400
So it's Mavis Staples Have a Little Faith from 2004.

511
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,560
Records tour today and they were playing all this music I never heard of.

512
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,520
Excuse me.

513
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,960
I'd like to ask you a few questions.

514
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,960
Now, deep questions by Don.

515
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:56,320
So, you know, I think part of the experience of record store day is, you know, waiting

516
00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,080
in line, you know, for these incredible releases.

517
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,240
Off the record, you're getting free food too.

518
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,240
Yeah.

519
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,240
Tacos, right?

520
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,240
Oh, that's right.

521
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,240
Yeah.

522
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,840
Have you guys waited in line for?

523
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:13,640
Well, Don, since you're prying so deep into my inner psyche.

524
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,760
I mean, the first thing I remember waiting for in line for was in college and there was

525
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,080
a new Krispy Kreme donut came to town.

526
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,080
Oh, God.

527
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,080
Yeah.

528
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,960
And everybody like lined up to get those glazed delicious balls of fat.

529
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,200
I didn't have to wait in line.

530
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,080
They brought me a box.

531
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,680
The Krispy Kreme representatives I was working at the record store in the mall, they brought

532
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,440
boxes to all the shops to say, hey, tell people to come to Krispy Kreme.

533
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,680
So we got a box before they even opened.

534
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:40,680
Free promos.

535
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:41,680
Yeah.

536
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:42,680
That's the way to do it.

537
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:43,680
Yeah.

538
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,680
I was out there like a sucker waiting in the cold.

539
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:51,840
But yeah, you know, over the, obviously the iPhone lines were like a big thing and, you

540
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,760
know, just people like camping out overnight to get stuff like that.

541
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,360
And I mean, that whole experience of just being in line with people must be kind of

542
00:27:58,360 --> 00:27:59,360
interesting.

543
00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:03,040
Like all these people who are so passionate about something that you're willing to sit

544
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,560
outside and the elements to just to get it.

545
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:06,720
I don't quite understand that.

546
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,040
Not as much of a consumer, I guess, to do something quite that extreme.

547
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,040
But how about you, man?

548
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,040
Yeah.

549
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:18,040
So I did wait in line for a phone once, the Samsung Galaxy Nexus 4G at Verizon.

550
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,040
Wow.

551
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,040
Like in 2011.

552
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,040
What were you there for?

553
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,040
I don't know.

554
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,040
40 minutes.

555
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,640
There was like 12 people in line.

556
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:25,640
40 minutes.

557
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:26,640
Okay.

558
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,160
That's not exactly, I guess it's.

559
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,280
But there was a line like for an Android phone, which I don't think there probably ever has

560
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:34,280
been.

561
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,080
Maybe not.

562
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:41,640
Waiting in line for beer at concerts and things like that has always been the most frustrating

563
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,320
thing.

564
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:48,200
Like I, there are more than one concert that I went to that I left because the beer line

565
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,600
was too long and I just went to a bar.

566
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,920
30 minutes to get a $12 beer.

567
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:54,920
Yeah.

568
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,120
Especially if you're missing something that you want that you paid to see, you know, like

569
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,960
here in the background and you're like, I wish I could actually witness this.

570
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:01,960
Yeah.

571
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:02,960
That's for sure.

572
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:03,960
Yeah.

573
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,240
So then I figure if I can't, if I'm waiting in line and missing the show, I might as well

574
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,240
just go to a bar.

575
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:08,240
Yeah.

576
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,240
Did that.

577
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,240
Go to a bar and listen to the album.

578
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:11,240
Did that a few times.

579
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:16,920
A Godsmack concert and a Stuntable Pilots concert I left part way through.

580
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:17,920
Geez.

581
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,560
It's not a baseball game, man.

582
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:21,560
Come on.

583
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,120
Well, sometimes you actually have to wait in line just to go to a concert.

584
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,440
You know, back in the day before we had like online ticket sales, you know, people used

585
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:33,440
to like camp out and I remember camping out for Pet Shop Boys tickets, you know, at our

586
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:34,440
local amphitheater.

587
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,600
And actually, I mean, there were a bunch of other events on sale at the time.

588
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,600
I think like the first Lollapalooza and stuff.

589
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,600
So just a really interesting crowd to be hanging out with overnight.

590
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,520
How many, how many Pet Shop Boys were there?

591
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:46,520
You and what?

592
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:47,520
And my friends.

593
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,320
And yeah, everybody else is our Lollapalooza.

594
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:52,320
Yeah.

595
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:57,200
And so anyway, so we eventually, you know, get our, get our tickets and a couple of weeks

596
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:02,880
before the show, they actually, they canceled probably due to poor ticket sales.

597
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,320
But they got you and your friend.

598
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,680
I mean, we have good seats.

599
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,080
Well, what have you waited in line for?

600
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,520
Let us know on Instagram and Facebook or leave a comment on our website, AlbumNerds.com.

601
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,160
It's time to rock and roll.

602
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,920
MTV killed heavy metal music.

603
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,320
You suddenly had the hair bands coming on.

604
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,880
It was only about what they look like and how many parties they could have.

605
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,640
I mean, the music was rubbish.

606
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:29,640
What's that all about?

607
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:30,640
This is not metal?

608
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,840
Dio does not pull any punches, man.

609
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:33,840
No.

610
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:39,320
So yeah, we're going to be talking about Dio's second, the band Dio, second album, The Last

611
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:40,320
in Line.

612
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:46,400
Dio being formed by Ronald James Padovona, known professionally as Ronnie James Dio,

613
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:52,040
heavy metal and he was born in July of 1942 in New Hampshire of all places, but grew up

614
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,920
in upstate New York.

615
00:30:53,920 --> 00:31:00,160
So he began his music career in 1957, went on to be in bands like Elf, Rainbow, Black

616
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,040
Sabbath, Dio and Heaven and Hell.

617
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:07,620
But this is his band that he formed after leaving Black Sabbath.

618
00:31:07,620 --> 00:31:11,160
So why don't we jump into the title track, The Last in Line.

619
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:30,960
I'm pretty sure that bands like Metallica had stopped picking up a little bit of that

620
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,800
thing from Mr. Dio.

621
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,360
Expanded upon it a little bit.

622
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:37,360
Yes.

623
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,640
The Last in Line was the first Dio album to feature keyboardist Claude Schnell.

624
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,960
The rest of the lineup was Ronnie James Dio, obviously Vinny, a piece on drums, Vivian

625
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:52,000
Campbell on guitar, later to go on to Def Leppard and Jimmy Bain on bass.

626
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,920
This is their highest charting album, number four in the UK, 23 in the US.

627
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:04,240
And it was the second album to feature their iconic mascot, Murray, the demon looking dude.

628
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,820
This was the Last in Line was the third single from the album, which did go platinum.

629
00:32:08,820 --> 00:32:12,880
The music video kinda helps set the scene for what it might be about.

630
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:17,240
It depicts a teenage delivery boy who's transported to a fantastical dimension and must escape

631
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,520
from cyborgs and demons, you know?

632
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:20,520
Of course.

633
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,080
Standard stuff.

634
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,280
My clickbait headline to describe this album.

635
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:29,240
Last in Line, more than just rock and roll, it's a devil horn waving journey through heaven,

636
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,040
hell, time and space.

637
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,040
Nice.

638
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,880
He's on these trips with his vocals and the fantastical settings.

639
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,440
It's not very specific.

640
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,360
He's not painting really tight pictures.

641
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:43,920
It's very broad pictures, but his soaring vocals and his personality kinda carry in

642
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,720
a metal way, like Mavis Staples.

643
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,800
It kinda carries you through the songs, even some of which you might be like, what did

644
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:50,800
he just say?

645
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,560
And we'll get into a little bit of that in a bit.

646
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,400
This guy was 42 years old at this point.

647
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:56,400
Wow.

648
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:57,880
I mean, that's in rock and roll, that's old.

649
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,880
In rock years, yeah, that's really old.

650
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,800
He was with Black Sabbath for a long time.

651
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:03,800
Yeah.

652
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:08,400
For him to be setting the pace and be dictating what heavy metal music was to become is pretty

653
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:09,400
cool.

654
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,200
Yeah, comparing Mavis Staples and Ronnie Dio together.

655
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,520
I didn't think we'd have that in this episode, but they do have that in common.

656
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,080
Yeah, it does kinda...

657
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,480
I didn't think of it until I was mid-sentence and then I thought, well...

658
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,560
Well, and dude said he could listen to Mavis sing the phone book.

659
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,280
I could listen to Dio sing the phone book.

660
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:26,280
Yes.

661
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:27,280
Oh yeah.

662
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,280
Yeah, that would be good.

663
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,160
All right, so why don't we listen to another track.

664
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,200
This one is the final track on the album.

665
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,560
It's called Egypt.

666
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,560
The Chains Are On.

667
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:55,480
Yeah, kinda the epic closer of the album there about slaves and pyramids.

668
00:33:55,480 --> 00:34:01,400
I'm not sure if it's about Egypt and our world or maybe Egypt and another planet maybe.

669
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:02,400
Kinda silly lyrically.

670
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:09,000
I mean, you definitely listen to that sci-fi thing, but I think they sell it on this album

671
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,000
generally.

672
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:15,480
My clickbait headline is, doesn't reach to the depths of Diver, but doesn't deserve to

673
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:16,480
be last.

674
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:17,480
I mean, this doesn't...

675
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:18,480
You okay?

676
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,000
I was just laughing at your diver.

677
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,000
Oh, okay.

678
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,320
You're referring to Holy Diver, the first album from Dio.

679
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:27,320
Yeah, the debut.

680
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:34,000
I mean, this is kind of in that same spirit as Holy Diver, same lineup, not that long

681
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,560
after they recorded that album.

682
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,680
I think the quality levels here maybe aren't as consistent as Holy Diver.

683
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,080
There's songs in here I really did enjoy, but there's also a handful that I think are

684
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,600
just maybe lesser than and tracks like...

685
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:51,560
I don't know, people are fans of Dio like the opening cut, We Rock.

686
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,160
I did not really like it.

687
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:59,160
I like the sound of it, but the term We Rock could have not...

688
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,520
It just was repeated a lot and I feel like there could have been other variations, but

689
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:04,720
yeah, people do love that song.

690
00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:07,240
I mean, it does kick off the album nicely.

691
00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:09,600
You know what you're getting into, but it is a lot of We Rock.

692
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,440
It brings a lot of energy, but yeah, it's just very repetitive.

693
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,200
I think that's my biggest critique is lyrically overly simple.

694
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:21,040
But in those days, hard rock bands and heavy metal bands had to do a song where it was

695
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,040
about rocking.

696
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,880
Yeah, I guess it was required, huh?

697
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:25,880
At least it was really catchy.

698
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,000
I mean, it's a great sounding song.

699
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:33,520
It's just lyrically like by the end it's like, okay, I'm not going to sing along anymore.

700
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,880
I can't say we rock one more time.

701
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,440
Yeah, I mean, there are handfuls of songs like that.

702
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,640
I Speed At Night, which seems just about driving fast in the darkness.

703
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,520
I don't know, but overall I think the band sounds good.

704
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:47,800
Dio sounds great.

705
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:53,360
His voice is just such an epic force and I think he sounds really good on this record

706
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,360
as good as he has on anything else.

707
00:35:55,360 --> 00:36:00,400
But there's moments where you can start to hear sort of like the 80s commercial sound

708
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,800
creeping in.

709
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:08,360
I think in particular, the ballad, Mystery has some keyboards.

710
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,840
That sounds like a stick song to me a little bit.

711
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,120
Yeah, definitely.

712
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:18,760
But it also, I think the keyboard sounds sort of sounded a little bit more like Richie Blackmore's

713
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,520
Rainbow that Dio was in.

714
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:25,320
I think it was hearkening a little back more than forward the way the keyboards are used.

715
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:26,320
I don't know.

716
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,000
I feel like there's a little bit of a sheen on that track in particular that I wouldn't

717
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,640
have gotten in like the 70s.

718
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:33,640
Andy hates that sheen.

719
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,920
Give me that sheen off of me.

720
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,600
He hates all kinds of sheen.

721
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,840
Charlie Sheen, Tiger Blood, he's winning.

722
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,760
All right, so why don't we get into another track.

723
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:55,360
This one is One Night in the City.

724
00:36:55,360 --> 00:37:08,480
Yeah, well, One Night in the City, kind of a traditional tale of good people, you know,

725
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:13,240
sort of going to the city and sort of finding evil or being corrupted.

726
00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:16,420
It seems like the same kind of thing that would have been written about in a country

727
00:37:16,420 --> 00:37:22,000
song or something like that, you know, going into town and finding booze or the devil or

728
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,000
whatever.

729
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,680
So I'm a sucker for that kind of thing.

730
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,280
My clickbait headline for the album is Eat Your Heart Out, Halford.

731
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,760
Dio Reigns is the vocal king of metal.

732
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,240
Eat Your Heart Out.

733
00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:38,400
Yeah, we've already talked about Dio's vocal stylings.

734
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,040
He stands alone.

735
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,520
The album just delivers exactly what I expected.

736
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,560
You know, I was familiar with Holy Diver.

737
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,840
This is pretty much just a continuation of that.

738
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:54,940
I guess it doesn't feel quite as special as Holy Diver for some reason.

739
00:37:54,940 --> 00:37:58,800
And also, you know, the Rainbow record that we covered a while ago on the show.

740
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,640
I'm not sure exactly why.

741
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:05,600
Maybe it just time passes or something and things just aren't quite as novel.

742
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:10,400
I was actually reminded of the Twisted Sister record that we did, you know, not too long

743
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:14,720
ago, Stay Hungry, right, which I believe was released in the same year.

744
00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:18,280
There's a lot of similarities, kind of comes from the same place.

745
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,920
And of course, you know, I think Dio is a better singer.

746
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,320
I think the musicians are probably better in Dio.

747
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,800
But for some reason, I think I prefer the Twisted Sister record and I'm not sure what

748
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:30,800
it is.

749
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,040
Maybe it just feels a little more vibrant or new or something.

750
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:41,800
It was more about rebellious energy and taking on the man and more, yeah, like less fantastical

751
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,280
also except for the story about the serial killer.

752
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:45,280
Yeah.

753
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:46,280
Yeah, I guess that's it.

754
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,760
Yeah, maybe Dio doesn't feel like he's of this world.

755
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,360
Yeah, you're right.

756
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:54,920
And Dee Snider, despite the horror stuff, feels kind of just more like an ordinary fellow,

757
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:55,920
I guess.

758
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,360
Yeah, this record's not really grounded in anything.

759
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,480
It feels very abstract, which can be a good thing though.

760
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,640
I mean, he's into more sci-fi side of metal.

761
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:05,640
Mythology, yeah.

762
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:06,640
Yeah.

763
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:11,280
But again, I think any Dio record like this, I could probably listen to and enjoy, you

764
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,360
know, just like Mavis Staples.

765
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:18,640
I hadn't listened to this album with a lot of attention before.

766
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,400
I usually listen to Holy Diver.

767
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:25,480
But I thought this is a really good follow up, pretty solid, maybe not quite as classic,

768
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:30,120
but still a very good Dio album and metal album of that era.

769
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:35,440
Record Store Day is going to be featuring a picture disc release of the album.

770
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,960
So I have a feeling you'll be seeing Murray very clearly on the disc.

771
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:44,180
So yeah, if you haven't listened to it, go check out Dio, The Last in Line.

772
00:39:44,180 --> 00:39:48,360
And if you're interested in picking up that record, go to Record Store Day.

773
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:49,360
Can you dig it?

774
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:50,360
Can you dig it?

775
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:51,360
Can you dig it?

776
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:52,360
All right.

777
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:59,360
Well, I know we've all been caught up in the excitement and anticipation of this album.

778
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,520
And anticipation of Record Store Day.

779
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,160
But you know, what other things have you been digging lately?

780
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,560
Well, I got a handful of things here in my new release bag.

781
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:09,560
I'd love to show you guys.

782
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:10,560
You always do.

783
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:16,080
I'll try and do it in a non creepy way this time.

784
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,080
Whip them out.

785
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,080
Jeez, thanks doc.

786
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,080
God, he's got you covered.

787
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,920
One of us does.

788
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:29,600
All right, first thing up here is from jazz vocalist, Ellis Russell, what it is called.

789
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:30,600
I am.

790
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,440
This is her first interview from her 2013 album to Dust.

791
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:39,440
She's a very soulful jazz vocalist from Suffolk, England.

792
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,680
This album sounds very much in line with that 2013 album.

793
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,040
This is not what I expected to hear.

794
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,040
Yeah.

795
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:52,880
I thought it was going to be a little more runs and like maybe a higher register.

796
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,800
It's a little more subdued than I expected.

797
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,600
Is this typical of her sound?

798
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,640
Yeah, it's more like loungey, lounge jazz kind of thing.

799
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:02,640
No scatting?

800
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:03,640
Scatting?

801
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,800
I don't know, there's a lot of scatting.

802
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,760
She's more in like the Adele space, I would say.

803
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:14,160
All right, next one up is from a UK group called Ugly.

804
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,760
The album is called Twice Around the Sun.

805
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,080
This is a very interesting record.

806
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,600
It technically is an EP, though it's about 35 minutes long.

807
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,320
I guess I would call it chamber pop, but there's elements of like post rock for sure.

808
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,360
I heard like some Queen in there at times.

809
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,720
It is a really inventive record.

810
00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:32,040
I almost don't even know how to classify it.

811
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,000
Is this completely new to you?

812
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,880
Yeah, I've never heard of them before.

813
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,960
I never know what to expect from you, man.

814
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,560
This is kind of twangy a little bit.

815
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:40,560
I never do either.

816
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,360
You know, but it could have, whenever you introduce anything, it could be some dude

817
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,480
screaming bloody murder or it could be something like this.

818
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,040
It sounds kind of light and lilty.

819
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,440
Yeah, it's a pretty fun record.

820
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:55,680
They can do like these amazing vocal harmonies on a couple of tracks that remind me a little

821
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:56,680
bit of Queen.

822
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,600
So it's an interesting one for sure.

823
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,960
And last one from a group we've talked about a few times on the show, I believe this one

824
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:02,960
is Crown Bin.

825
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:07,000
They're an instrumental guitar group from Houston, Texas.

826
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,560
They have a new record called A La Sala.

827
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,040
It's very chill.

828
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:16,320
So I was doing this while I was doing my taxes and it kept my blood pressure down.

829
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,400
I think that's, I mean, that's a, that's a beautiful review.

830
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,600
I'm sure the band would appreciate it too.

831
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,240
Great album to do your taxes by.

832
00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:29,320
Now they're a really good chill group.

833
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,320
They had a direct market to the HNR Block.

834
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,800
See if those folks want to use this music to help do their job.

835
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,160
A La Sala translates to do your taxes.

836
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,160
Wow.

837
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:41,160
It's April 15th.

838
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,160
We got all you guys out there.

839
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,320
What you been digging on Dan?

840
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,520
Well, I've mentioned it several times and I'll keep mentioning it.

841
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,280
So the Pet Shop Boys do have an album coming out April 26th.

842
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:55,920
It's coming soon.

843
00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:00,920
But they released another single from the album called Dancing Star.

844
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:05,080
And typical of the Pet Shop Boys, even though they're, you know, kind of just simple dance

845
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:09,200
pop, they also just have weird subjects to the, to the writing.

846
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:15,200
And so this one is actually about a Soviet dancer, Rudolf Nureyev, who was one of the

847
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:20,640
first like Soviet celebrities to defect to Western Europe in the 1960s.

848
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,160
Kind of a cool story.

849
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,400
Also typical of the Pet Shop Boys, there's some good B-sides.

850
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:31,000
There's a song called If Jesus Had a Sister, which, you know, provides some, some interesting,

851
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,000
thoughtful ideas.

852
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,000
So, yeah.

853
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:39,160
So I wonder if people are already starting to line up with tents and such to get their

854
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,640
hands on this album on release day.

855
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,520
That's why they're not doing it on record store day, because it would just be too many

856
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:46,520
people.

857
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,560
No one would care about the other releases.

858
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:50,560
What about you, dude?

859
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:54,800
Well, I'm digging a few different things, but I've heard of this band before.

860
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,320
They're called Acid Mammoth.

861
00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:01,360
I've listened to their albums, but they just released one called Supersonic Megafauna Collision.

862
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,120
Nice.

863
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,200
It's their fourth full-length album.

864
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:11,080
Their Doom Metal band from Athens, Greece, formed in 2015 by Chris Babalas Jr.

865
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:16,320
And the lead guitarist is his dad, Chris Babalas Sr., which I think is really cool.

866
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:22,520
And on our recent episode about family bands, I wish I had known that connection.

867
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,640
But you know, it's Doomy and Gloomy and cool album art.

868
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,640
It's kind of a Sabbathy record.

869
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,200
It's a fun listen.

870
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:31,520
Yeah, sounds cool.

871
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,480
Metal band from Athens, Greece, not Georgia?

872
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:35,480
Correct.

873
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,160
Okay, cool.

874
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:43,480
And then as always, I did a little shopping at the record store and found a copy of a

875
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,400
record I've been looking for for a while.

876
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:46,680
I was on my way out of the store.

877
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,280
I'd already made my purchases and I saw it on the wall and it was like, oh no.

878
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,240
And I had to turn around and spend more money.

879
00:44:53,240 --> 00:45:00,960
It is the 1986 album Control by Janet Jackson that we talked about on episode 218 of the

880
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:01,960
podcast.

881
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,320
So it's really nice to have that in the collection.

882
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,880
I had a memory about the vinyl copy of it.

883
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:11,000
My friend Sean lived next door to me and had it on vinyl.

884
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,000
I was like, why don't you have the cassette?

885
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,120
He's like, well, because I don't have a cassette player.

886
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:15,880
I only have a record player.

887
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,640
When that still was a thing.

888
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:23,600
We listened to it in his room in red light because he had spray painted a light bulb

889
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,040
red to give his bedroom a little more mood letting.

890
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,040
Yeah.

891
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:29,040
A little more style.

892
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,040
Nice.

893
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:31,040
That was a good record though.

894
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,000
I was impressed by coming back to that.

895
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,000
Yeah.

896
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,000
All right.

897
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,000
Well, what are you digging?

898
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,000
Let us know.

899
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,360
Hit us up on the socials, Facebook, Instagram and threads.

900
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:45,320
Also on our website, albumnerds.com.

901
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:59,080
Well, as we were celebrating record story day on April 20th, I was reminded of this

902
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:04,000
fairly well-known quote from one of our founding fathers of this country, Thomas Jefferson,

903
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:09,440
who said, some of my finest hours have been spent on my back veranda, smoking hemp and

904
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,000
observing as far as my eye can see.

905
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,160
So to translate in today's parlance, it would be smoking if you got.

906
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,720
If you want to say, sure.

907
00:46:19,720 --> 00:46:23,760
With that in mind, let's bring out my friend and yours, Wadbop to see what we'll be talking

908
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:32,880
about on next week's show.

909
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:38,720
As album nerds, you obviously enjoy the experience of listening to albums from start to finish.

910
00:46:38,720 --> 00:46:42,560
Next time, you will double down on your love of the album format.

911
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,880
You will test your limits and explore double albums.

912
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,320
Just how nerdy are you?

913
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:48,320
We shall see.

914
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,040
Back to the grind boys, double albums.

915
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,840
Ooh, that's a long grind on these ones.

916
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,760
Those long plays.

917
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,200
Size matters.

918
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,440
Too big can be too much.

919
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:03,440
Just getting away.

920
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:04,440
When it comes to records.

921
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:05,440
Yeah.

922
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,920
We'll have to find some ones that are good fits for us, I guess.

923
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:09,920
It can be a lot to take in.

924
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:19,720
Oh, Don always likes to go deep.

925
00:47:19,720 --> 00:47:22,040
Well what's your favorite double album of all time?

926
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:23,040
What else are you listening to?

927
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:27,520
Leave a comment on our website or email us at podcast at album nerds dot com.

928
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:31,360
You can follow us on Facebook, Instagram and threads at album nerds.

929
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,600
And please subscribe, rate and review on your favorite podcast app.

930
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:39,040
And if you'd like to support the show, you can do so via PayPal at album nerds dot com

931
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:40,280
slash support.

932
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,120
Thank you once again for joining us on the album nerds podcast.

933
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,960
We'll catch you next time with some double album action.

934
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:46,960
Yes.

935
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:47,960
Hopefully not too much action.

936
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:48,960
I don't know how to deal with that.

937
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:49,960
Nice listen everybody.

938
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:50,960
Catch you next time.

939
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:51,960
There's no sign of the morning coming.

940
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:52,960
You've been like a rainbow.

941
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:53,960
Ugh, I can't get there.

942
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:54,960
I don't think I've seen that before.

943
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:55,960
I don't know.

944
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:56,960
I don't know.

945
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:57,960
I don't know.

946
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:58,960
I don't know.

947
00:47:58,960 --> 00:47:59,960
I don't know.

948
00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:00,960
I don't know.

949
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:01,960
I don't know.

950
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:02,960
I don't know.

951
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:03,960
I don't know.

952
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,240
I don't think I've seen that vein in your neck before, Don.

953
00:48:06,240 --> 00:48:08,720
That's why Dio is special.

954
00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:09,720
Yes.

955
00:48:09,720 --> 00:48:37,360
If he was able to do it, then it would be meaningless if he can't.

