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Welcome to the Album Nerds podcast with your hosts, Andy, Don, and Dude.

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Hello, hello, hello.

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Hey, it's the Album Nerds podcast.

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I'm Dude.

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Got Andy and Don with me.

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Time to chat about 2012.

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How are you guys feeling about that?

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Yikes.

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I'm ready to take a roll in the deep, I guess.

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Nice.

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Don, you could have had it all.

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How do you feel about that?

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I mean, I can't even remember anything about 2012 to be able to make a joke or a reference.

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That's depressing.

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Only 12 years ago, but it feels like a lifetime.

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Just a very nondescript year, I think.

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I guess it depends on who you are, because I'm sure there are people out there being

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like, 2012 rocked.

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These old bastards don't understand.

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All right, so this is indeed the Album Nerds podcast.

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We love albums, the album format, discussing them, spending very special time together

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between the three of us and with y'all listening.

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So we've got a great show for you this week.

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We're going to be talking about albums that were in the top 10 of 2012.

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So we're each bringing one record to discuss.

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Don's going to be asking us a deep question.

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We're going to get some shout outs to some album related items that we're digging.

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And then at the end, we'll spin the wheel of musical discovery to find out what we'll

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talk about next time.

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With this week, let's head to 2012.

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That's what I'm talking about.

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2012 featured mass shootings and hurricanes, the reelection of a US president, the diamond

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jubilee of a queen, Olympic Games in London, and the passing of one of the greatest female

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singers.

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Who's the female singer?

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Are you going to imagine that?

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Who was the greatest female singer?

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Whitney Houston.

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Oh, come on, man.

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There you go.

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I wanted you to ask me.

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Well, I guess that worked.

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The top grossing films were The Avengers, The Dark Knight Rises, and The Hunger Games.

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And the New York Giants defeated the New England Patriots in Super Bowl XLVII.

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Oh, that was a good one.

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Today we revisit the music of 2012.

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Each of us will present one of the 10 highest selling albums of the year.

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Yeah, so this week was a little bit different in terms of searching for albums because we

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had a very defined list.

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Should we just go through the top 10?

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Ignore the albums that we're talking about?

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Sure.

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Let's count them.

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So at number nine was Lionel Richie, Tuskegee.

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That was like Lionel with a bunch of country artists doing Lionel Richie songs.

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You guys enjoy that?

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I tried it.

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I wanted to.

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I love Lionel.

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He's sounding good, but some of those songs just aren't duets.

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They sound very neutered, in my opinion.

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Then at number seven, Mumford and Sons with Babel or Babel or Babel.

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I think it's Babel.

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I think it's that folk, the sort of Irish-y folk run there around that time when there

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were a lot of those bands, kind of adult contemporary audience.

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Yeah, it was the working man's folk music, I would say.

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Blue collar folk music or something.

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I just felt like it got whipped up too quickly and it didn't have a chance to develop into

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anything more.

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I know those bands are still around, but I think it just kind of burned itself out really

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quick, which is too bad.

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I prefer the Decemberists.

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Yes, yes.

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I remember them.

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Number six, Luke Bryan, Tailgates and Tanlines.

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Country girl, shake it for me, girl, shake it for me.

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I'm sorry, it's just like the science teacher telling young ladies to shake it for him.

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He just doesn't, the swagger just doesn't click for me.

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I don't dislike Luke Bryan, but-

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They shake it for him, though.

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I've been to the shows.

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Yes, I'm sure they do.

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Lucky you.

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Do you shake it for him?

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Any thoughts on this one?

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He's one of my least favorite characters in country music, so I'm just trying to be quiet

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and nice.

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Enough said.

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Number five, One Direction, Up All Night.

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Never listened to One Direction.

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I did listen to this record.

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It's surprisingly good.

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It doesn't sound like boy band as much as featured vocalists doing songs.

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It's not as corny as some of the other boy band stuff from decades before.

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I thought it was an overly long record, but the ballads I thought were pretty enjoyable.

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It wasn't so bad.

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It was all right.

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Number four, Taylor Swift with Red.

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I think probably every year from 2008 or nine or whatever till today, she's probably on

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this list for one of her records.

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I did not listen to it, to be honest, you guys.

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I was swifted out.

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You didn't listen.

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I listened to it.

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It's not a bad record.

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It's a little bit more into the teenage romance kind of side of things, which she always has

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at least one foot planted in, but not nearly as mature as the stuff she's doing nowadays.

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Yeah, I prefer the one we did recently.

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Me too.

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Midnights?

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Midnights, yeah.

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At number three, Drake, Take Care.

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Never listened to Drake.

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It was a mistake to listen to Drake after doing the Yo MTV Raps episode where we were

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listening to some of the finest rhymes you've ever heard.

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The nasally delivery, the bad puns, I just, I couldn't even make it through all the way.

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80 something minutes too.

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I know people love Drake, but I would at least like to hear some of his Canadian heritage,

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like how the ladies are as hot as poutine or something, but he doesn't even get into it.

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No, I, God, between Drake and Luke Bryan, man, whew, Son of Mars as far as I'm concerned.

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I feel like they collaborated at some point.

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Maybe there's a really good Drake album.

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Someone let me know if there is and I'll go check that out too, but I was not into that

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At number two, Michael Buble, Christmas.

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I think we discussed this one a little bit on our holiday episode this past year, so

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yeah, it's Christmas.

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It's Buble.

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It's nice.

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I think that's about all there is to say about that.

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You can both say agree instead of nodding your heads.

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It's an auditory medium.

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And then we're going to skip number one and number eight and number 10, because that's

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who we'll be covering in our album picks.

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So once we get right to them, you choose me.

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It means a lot to be a drummer.

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One of the things it means is that you're not a good guitar player or as good as someone

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else that you know who's in your band.

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Well, I guess that really does probably explain it most of the time.

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That is Patrick Carney from The Black Keys.

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Him and his good friend Dan Auerbach had the number 10 record in 2012.

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Their album El Camino, the seventh studio album for the blues rock duo from Akron, Ohio.

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We are going to play the lead single.

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This is a little bit of a track you might recognize.

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Lonely Boy.

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That ended up in a beer commercial or something.

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It ended up in a lot of places, dude.

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One percent chance.

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They were very well known for, especially on their previous record, Brothers, which

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was a good big seller for them.

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They licensed the hell out of that record and a lot of the songs.

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Dude, when the kachings are available, take the kachings.

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They're not going to last forever.

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Take the kachings.

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You're right here.

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So they did win a Grammy for Lonely Boy for best rock performance and best rock song.

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And the album as a whole actually won a Grammy for best rock album.

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So they kind of were kicking ass at this point of their career.

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This album is the third collaboration with super producer Danger Mouse, aka Brian Burton,

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who I know we've mentioned a few times on the show for various projects he's been involved

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with.

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I used to get him confused with Dead Mouse, but because of weeks ago on our electronic

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music, I realized that they're two different people.

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But I always thought Danger Mouse and Dead Mouse are the same dude.

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This is the Narl Sparkley guy, right?

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The guy with the big fro, not the big helmet.

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Gotcha.

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My clickbait headline for this record, Danger Mouse gets speeding ticket, taking the boys

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to soccer practice.

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So they've been in the record El Camino, but on the cover they have this photo of like

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a dodge caravan or some like family van with some wood paneling.

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Looks pretty awesome.

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And that was their touring vehicle for many years in their early days.

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They didn't have a fancy bus.

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Few bands do.

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Yeah, these guys are very sort of bootstrap, or at least early in their career they were

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doing the Midwestern rock circuit.

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But by this point of their career, they would really kind of graduate to the next level

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and were selling out big venues and doing more of a commercial thing.

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But this album really finds them, I don't know if I would say going back to the roots,

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but definitely this is a much quicker pace album than Brothers.

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It's pretty fun record, I would say, very hooky, very easy to get into.

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Draws a lot from 60s and 70s rock and soul, bands like The Clash, Cramps, Ramones, Cars.

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You can hear a lot of it here.

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And the whole record is kind of just glazed with that Danger Mouse sort of glitter, sheen,

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glitter sort of sound.

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Yeah, the mutt laying of the era.

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Oh man, it's funny you say that, but yeah, I guess he kind of did do that.

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Gave that treatment.

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Take the raw rock band and smooth out the edges and make it huge and palatable to all.

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Yeah, very commercially acceptable, I would say.

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All right, why don't we play another cut from the record.

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This is the second to last track called Nova Baby.

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Yeah, so that one, that comes fairly late in a pretty short record.

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It was like 37, 38 minutes, which was refreshing for that time.

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I wondered if our choices were based on length because these were three of the shortest records

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I think on the list.

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That's part of the equation for sure.

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Yeah, but that song kind of has, I don't know, it kind of felt sort of post-punky to me.

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Maybe it was like the bass line, you could kind of tell it was with a pick and it was

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do, do, do, do, I don't know.

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I liked it.

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And the lyrics are kind of sad and dark, which also I tend to like.

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But the song, like almost the entire album is quite upbeat and kind of fun sounding.

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My clickbait headline for the album is Black Keys Provide Oasis in 2012 Rock Desert.

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Not Oasis the band, but like a water in the desert kind of thing.

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So yeah, I just picture this era being kind of devoid of good rock and roll.

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I know there are groups out, the Foo Fighters are still going and whatever, but yeah, this

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is a nice rock record that is kind of steeped in the past, but also has kind of some modern

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sound to it.

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Well, it was exciting, right?

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I mean, it was, this is their seventh album and the majority of us had not heard them

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prior to Maybe Brothers before this, but certainly this album.

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And it was exciting.

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It was like, wow, rock and roll lives.

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These dudes had been doing it for a while and finding their path to the mainstream.

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This was the first album I had heard from them.

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Yeah, I was kind of excited by it.

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I like how they blend some funk and almost like a disco-y dance beat.

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They're not dance records, but sometimes it's like that four on the floor sound, which does

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There's like a stompiness to it.

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Like you would make it from the blues.

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Yeah, that bump, bump, bump, bump.

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It reminds me of Alex Turner of Arctic Monkeys, who are also kind of hitting big around this

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So yeah, I remember between these guys and Arctic Monkeys, I was like, oh, maybe there's

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some hope for rock and roll still.

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Yeah, Little Black Submarines.

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I remember the first time hearing it thinking it was deliberately like a Stairway to Heaven

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parody kind of or cover.

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I think it's just blues rivage just, you know.

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But even as it gets louder towards the end, it kind of crescendos like Stairway to Heaven.

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I don't know.

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It just feels like it was like an ode to Stairway to Heaven, but I was looking for reference

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to them doing it deliberately and it doesn't seem like it was intentional.

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So maybe it just kind of happens accidentally, right?

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If you're doing the blues, you're going to end up sounding like those guys.

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Yeah.

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I didn't pick up on that.

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I know that was the first song they had written for the record, the only one they had written

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outside the studio.

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Maybe they were in the zeppelin, I don't know.

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I read one of them saying that it was the song that sounded most like their live vibe.

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Yeah, I know the intention for this record was to do songs that they could perform live

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and it would grab the audience in a live way and work better because the previous albums

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are a little bit more slowed down, spaced out, a little more in the psychedelic space.

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That is not this by any means.

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Why don't we play a cut here from the middle of the record?

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This is maybe the one of the more beatley sounding songs.

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This is Run Right Back.

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You know, oddly enough, that riff is what drew me to this song and it sounds like something

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that Paul McCartney did.

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I think I can't quite figure it out, but it reminds me of Sir Paul.

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It was some of the stuff he was doing in Post Beetles.

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Yeah.

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But yeah, I dig that song.

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Maybe it was Klaatu.

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Sorry.

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Yeah, maybe it was Klaatu.

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It was written by Dan Patrick and Brian, Mr. Mouse there.

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It describes a tricky, addictive relationship where she just keeps pulling him back in.

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The clickbait headline I went with is the Black Keys dads make them clean out the garage

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and El Camino and some effects pedals are what they find.

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It feels like garage rock, blues rock, spiffed up, cleaned up, edges sanded.

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New fuel pump.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Everything's running.

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It's like tuned up, clean, and it'll get dirty again.

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For this moment in time, this record, we define what blues rock was.

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The Danger Mouse gave it that polish.

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Slicker and chunkier than the early stuff.

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The big come up sounds like 10 years after, just sort of blues barf where you're just

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letting whatever come out, whatever words, whatever riffs are just like, you know.

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Blues barf, I like that.

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This is more planned, thought out, and produced.

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But yeah, I mean, I like the record.

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I enjoy them in general.

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I'm not a super fan or anything.

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They've done good stuff.

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They've also done, the two members have gone on to produce bands like the Sheepdogs and

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others.

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So, you know, they've tried to pass that baton and contribute to music outside of just their

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own band, which I really appreciate as well.

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Yeah, I feel like they've kind of become like the sort of like David Grohl in some

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way, like the elder statesman of rock or like the torchbearers of rock, I guess, to some

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degree are carrying this tradition on even though it's changed a little bit over the

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last couple of decades.

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All right.

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Well, once again, it is a solid entry, I think, in the Black Keys discography.

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Maybe not their best, but certainly not their worst.

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Record is El Camino.

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What was it?

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What was the song?

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Well, the song's called Cockiness.

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That's all right.

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So far we got away with it.

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Yeah.

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So the first lyrics are, Suck my cockiness, lick my persuasion.

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All right.

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Hold on.

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All right.

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So my pick for a record from 2012 was number eight, Rihanna's Talk That Talk, actually

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released in November of 2011.

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It's the sixth studio album from Rihanna, born Robin Rihanna Fenty and St. Michael Barbados

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in 1988.

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This year, a song called We Found Love.

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Let's just keep repeating the chorus.

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Just do it a couple more times.

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Yeah.

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Now, where did they find love?

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I don't know.

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Hopeless place.

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I didn't catch it, did you?

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Oh, hopeless place.

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Oh yeah.

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Okay.

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I'm sorry.

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Yeah.

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It's a repetitive, dancey number written and produced by Scottish DJ Calvin Harris.

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It'll be great.

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Yeah.

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It's an uptempo electro house song with elements of dance pop, techno and Euro pop.

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128 beats per minute.

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Perfect.

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I don't know if you caught the depth of the lyrics, but it basically about a couple who

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found love where?

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In a hopeless place.

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Exactly.

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My clickbait headline for the album is Rihanna says, lick her vocal presence, suck her charisma.

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Nice, though.

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Thank you.

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Yeah.

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I guess what I was most impressed by from Rihanna is just her vocal presence.

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She's versatile.

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She's soulful.

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I don't know.

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She just knows what to do with a mic.

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I'm not sure she's not on the same level as Beyonce and Alicia Keys as far as singing.

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I don't know.

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She can do a lot of things with her voice and I think it works particularly in a dance

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pop context.

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Yeah.

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It's Madonna-esque in that way.

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It is.

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Yeah.

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That's a good comparison.

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The 80s dance music sound is what Madonna took, right?

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We kind of forget that that's what dance music sounded like.

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It's like holiday and whatever, but that's what it did then.

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She took EDM and added some spices.

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Yeah.

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I think she also has some more masculine qualities to her voice in the way that Madonna did, especially

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later in her career where she sounds like she gets a lower range in her voice too.

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That's true.

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Yeah.

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She explores.

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Yeah.

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Well, let's hear a little more.

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Here's Where Have You Been.

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What was she looking for?

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Babe?

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Yeah.

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So what caught me on that song was it references I've Been Everywhere that Australian country

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singer Jeff Mack from 1959 and then popularized by Hank Snow from Canada in 1962.

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And then again, Johnny Cash with the Where I've Been Everywhere man across the country.

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And I just like that little reference there, the reuse of that line in a different way.

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But what I liked most about that song was surprisingly the production, the EDM stuff,

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the rope, rope, rope, rope stuff I thought was really cool.

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And throughout the album, that's what I kind of clung to because the vocals are sparse

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in terms of meat.

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It's mostly the gravy over and over again.

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You were really hanging by your fingernails there, dude.

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The EDM was what kept you around.

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Yes, I was.

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That gets me to my clickbait headline.

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Dude finds himself listening to Rihanna for the first time, miraculously survives the

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EDM haze.

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It was the beats that kept me going.

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Not that it, like Don said, fine vocals, like I like some of the affectation she does, the

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accent that appears and goes.

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It was very interesting vocally.

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I would have just liked more words, man.

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I would have liked to get to know her a little bit more instead of it feeling kind of surfacey.

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But maybe that's more part of that music world.

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People don't want to be dancing and hearing someone's biography in a song.

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They want the lines and the moments so that they can all start freaking out.

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So it's a balance.

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If she ever comes, maybe she has an album, like more of a ballad-y album.

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I'd be interested to check that out because she does have an interesting voice.

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Well, let's hear more.

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Here's a cut called Cockiness.

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Love it.

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Yeah, just Greg Kinnear did it so sexy.

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This is like, you know.

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Rihanna's version.

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It's okay.

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That was the sixth and final single off the album.

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More than half singles.

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I can't believe that was a single.

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It was.

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Yeah, I mean, this whole album is just filled with some of the most thinly possible veiled

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sexual interwindows that you could imagine, that track being perhaps the most on-the-nose

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example.

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I don't know.

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Whether or not it works, I think is debatable.

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I guess maybe in that club context, as you were saying, dude, it makes sense.

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You want things to be sexy.

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That's what I kept trying to remember.

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This is not a staring out the window on a rainy day kind of album.

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This is a dance record.

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This is grinding against somebody.

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Yes.

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All right.

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My clickbait headline for this album is Rihanna talks that talk plenty, but does she say anything

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as the dude was alluding to?

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Yeah, I think this record is not really filled with a whole lot of substance.

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Maybe the most substantive thing is the beats.

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The production has varied significantly from track to track.

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But there's some interesting things that happen.

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She shares the stage with it.

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It's like a partnership.

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I mean, there are equals.

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I would agree, which I think is, yeah, it works.

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I mean, it's important.

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She's very much feeds the beat as much as the beat is keeping the songs going.

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Yeah, no, I think the closing cut there farewell is probably the most traditional of a song

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we would get where we really do hear her sing a little bit more and it's less focused on

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production.

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And she sounds good on that song.

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I think she did just like an acoustic Rihanna record.

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That would be really interesting to hear what that would sound like.

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It just sounded like a pink song to me, like a very that anthemic sort of girl power sort

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of vibe, which ran counter to a lot of I mean, it was a different kind of girl power through

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the other tracks.

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This one was more vulnerable.

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So it kind of was a little out of place, but I guess a nice palate cleanser at the end.

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Yeah, it makes sense at the end of the record, I think.

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It's kind of funny how Rihanna and the Black Keys both have like see later songs at the

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end of their albums.

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I'm kind of not a huge fan of that personally.

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That's true.

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But yeah, I mean, I think Talk That Talk for me at least is just kind of like a time capsule

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of some of the sounds at the time, you know, in terms of the dance music and Rihanna obviously

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being a big part of that.

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Nothing here is like amazing on its own, but if you want to something that represents what

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was happening in dance culture in 2012, I think this is a pretty good selection.

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Well said, Andy.

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So that was Talk That Talk by Rihanna, the number eight album of 2012.

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Excuse me.

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I'd like to ask you a few questions.

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Once again, it's time for Deep Questions by Don.

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So I kind of mentioned at the beginning of the show that I don't remember much from

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2012.

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What do you guys remember from 2012?

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I mean, the most memorable things for me from that year, I mean, we had the presidential

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debates and election were always interesting.

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Mitt Romney versus Obama kind of throwback from this time period feels like those were

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the golden days of political discourse.

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The other big things I'll mention are some films that at least for me were pretty impactful.

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I mean, we kind of have like in some ways the beginning of the end of popular culture

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in the Avengers movies.

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We had the first Avengers movie came out kind of amalgamation of all the Marvel stuff up

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to this point, kind of coalesced in this big film and it was a huge, huge deal on the box

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office and then spurred obviously like a decade of spin-offs and offshoots and TV shows and

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whatnot.

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Yeah, this stuff's been going on for a long time.

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Yeah, so much came out of that.

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Also that year I mentioned too Walt Disney purchased Lucasfilms, which included Star

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Wars and Indiana Jones and that would lead to a whole mess of additional films in those

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series of varying quality.

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Yeah, so 2012 for me, I started like I had been carrying a small collection of vinyl

496
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:26,560
records around since the 90s, but in 2012 was around the time I started really trying

497
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,080
to build a collection again.

498
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:34,680
I have a pretty large CD collection and I made the move laterally to vinyl and started

499
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,320
going to record stores a lot.

500
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:43,880
Again, independent stores and picking up a lot of used vinyl and getting vinyl on eBay,

501
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:49,600
find someone that was selling a whole box of records, get that shipped and then find

502
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:50,600
what-

503
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:51,600
Just the random creative-

504
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:56,400
Yeah, and there was stuff I was looking for in there, like some Led Zeppelin albums and

505
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:01,080
things like that of varying quality, sometimes two copies of something, but there were weird

506
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,320
records, many of which ended up being really interesting listens.

507
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,920
So it's been fun all the way along.

508
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,800
I still, when I go to the record store, I look in the dollar bin and I pick up something

509
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,480
that looks weird as hell just for fun and see what it is.

510
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:14,480
That's cool.

511
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:20,120
What about you Don, just sitting around waiting for another year to begin?

512
00:28:20,120 --> 00:28:29,200
Well, I was really into trail running at the time and that's when I really got into hoppy

513
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,200
IPAs.

514
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:35,120
Those are really since 2012 that's been my beer of choice.

515
00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:38,040
What's a go-to IPA?

516
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,760
The Juice Bomb from, damn it, I can't think of the name of the brewery.

517
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:42,760
Snooty Douche Brewery.

518
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:43,760
Yeah, exactly.

519
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:44,760
What the?

520
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:45,760
Sloop, is that the-

521
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:46,760
Yeah, it's Sloop.

522
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,400
The Sloop Brewing Juice Bomb.

523
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,120
I was close.

524
00:28:54,120 --> 00:29:00,160
Yeah, one thing I didn't participate in, but I remember it being popular in that year was

525
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,400
The Walking Dead.

526
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:06,120
But I remember actually I went out and I saw like a Pink Floyd cover band.

527
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,240
And so afterwards we grabbed a drink at a bar and it must've been at 10 o'clock or whenever

528
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:11,840
that show would be on.

529
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,920
And I remember like everybody that worked at the bar was just sitting there watching

530
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:16,920
the show.

531
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,800
And I remember like feeling like I was putting them out if I ordered a drink because they

532
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:25,320
were just so glued to the show that I had no idea.

533
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:30,520
Yeah, that was one of those shows that definitely had those guys for a while.

534
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,080
You should've started acting like a zombie.

535
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,360
You would've gotten their attention there.

536
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,280
Well what do you remember from 2012?

537
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:38,280
Let us know.

538
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,720
Hit us up on Instagram, Facebook, or leave a comment on our website, AlbumNerds.com.

539
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:43,720
Hi, I'm Adele.

540
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:49,440
I am in New York in a very hot and sweaty and dark artist's room here at Sony.

541
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:55,160
Wow, she's like a wicked witch or something.

542
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,160
Yeah.

543
00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:03,320
So doing research here for Adele's number one album of 2012-21, I've found I've learned

544
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,460
a lot about her and her personality that runs a little counter to what you would expect

545
00:30:07,460 --> 00:30:11,320
from the super serious, heartbroken vibe of the album.

546
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:19,680
So Adele Lori Blue Atkins, born May 1988 in Tottenham, London, is an English singer-songwriter,

547
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:25,720
signed a record deal with XL Recordings after graduating from the Brit School in 2006, like

548
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,440
the Performing Arts School.

549
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,160
Amy Winehouse was also an alum.

550
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:35,400
Numerous accolades including 16 Grammy Awards, 12 Brit Awards, Academy Award, Primetime Emmy

551
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,320
Award, and a Golden Globe.

552
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:43,120
Her studio albums 21 and 25 are among the best selling albums in UK chart history and

553
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,720
both certified diamond in the US.

554
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:51,400
So for 2012 to have a superstar, we hadn't had one of those in a while.

555
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:56,320
So why don't we jump into a little bit of 21 with the track Rumor Hazard?

556
00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:12,600
So this was her second studio album, released in 2011.

557
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,040
It was top seller for 2011 and 2012.

558
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:21,440
The album title is her age at the time of recording as was 19 and her subsequent albums.

559
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,320
I wonder how far she'll make it.

560
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,320
Make sure to have like an 89.

561
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,360
Yeah, maybe.

562
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:33,000
So Rumor Hazard was written by Adele and Ryan Tedder who also produced the track.

563
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:38,520
She stated that the song was not inspired by the media as many people think, but more

564
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:43,640
about her own friends who believed the rumors they were reading about her in the tabloids.

565
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,080
So they'd ask her like, oh, I heard you did this.

566
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:50,200
And she's like, it was really pissing her off that these, the people were believing

567
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,940
all this shit when they actually know her.

568
00:31:51,940 --> 00:31:55,440
So I thought that was an interesting twist to learn about.

569
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,540
Fourth single from the album and it's catchy.

570
00:31:58,540 --> 00:31:59,540
It's fun.

571
00:31:59,540 --> 00:32:02,920
It's, you know, throwback soul a little bit.

572
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,300
My clickbait headline, British Invasion hits America's shores once again in the form of

573
00:32:07,300 --> 00:32:11,000
an emotive vocalist with a broken heart.

574
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,880
Modern clean production, but still human, full of emotion.

575
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,880
I don't think there's a bad song on the record.

576
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,120
They're not all the best, but they're all enjoyable.

577
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:23,880
And heartbreak introspection, breakup, forgiveness, healing, deep stuff.

578
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,800
The worst song is actually the cure song.

579
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:32,520
So I knew, I knew we had to, I know there's no way that you thought that the cure love

580
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,200
song cover would be adequate.

581
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,200
Yeah.

582
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,200
I thought it was nice.

583
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,200
I knew you're going to hate it.

584
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,860
It just seems like a, I don't know.

585
00:32:38,860 --> 00:32:41,040
It's just not like a great, I don't know.

586
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,520
It doesn't seem like the song, the type of song that's worth covering.

587
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,520
Although I do think like the best part of the song is the baseline and she didn't use

588
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:49,520
it.

589
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,680
Like at least when 311 did it, they, you know, they stuck with that original baseline, but

590
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,320
no, it's just kind of a banal song anyway, by cure standards.

591
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,320
So it's not one that I would do.

592
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:03,880
I thought that was one of their most poignant songs in their discography.

593
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:04,880
But no.

594
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,920
The true fans don't like the popular ones.

595
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:07,920
I guess so.

596
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:13,880
I mean, I appreciate them, but that, and I like that song, but it's just, I don't think

597
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,960
it fits in this record very well.

598
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,120
Like it doesn't make sense to me with the rest of the album.

599
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:24,440
I think I read that she was doing it as a tribute to family members or something who

600
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:25,680
supported her.

601
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,000
So it's not about the guy that dumped her.

602
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,000
Okay.

603
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,000
All right.

604
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:37,240
Why don't we jump into hopefully a more enjoyable song than the terrible cure cover.

605
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,680
Apparently here's a little bit of someone like you.

606
00:33:41,680 --> 00:34:04,080
That was the second single off the album, co-written by Dan Wilson of semi-sonic fame.

607
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,080
Guys remember, remember them?

608
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,080
Closing time.

609
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,080
Closing time.

610
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,080
Yep.

611
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,960
I think it seems like this album is largely about a breakup that she had been going through

612
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:17,400
and a long-term relationship that had recently come to a close.

613
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:18,720
The song definitely deals with that.

614
00:34:18,720 --> 00:34:20,800
It feels like a lot of the record does.

615
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,280
90% of it does.

616
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:23,280
Yeah.

617
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:28,280
The thing I read about the song was that she was imagining like at age 40 running into

618
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,800
her ex and seeing that he's got this beautiful life with a beautiful wife and stuff.

619
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:33,800
Yeah.

620
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:34,800
Yeah.

621
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:40,200
I found out that he had gotten engaged after their breakup and never wanted to get married

622
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,200
when they were together.

623
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,200
Now this was really hitting her heavy.

624
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,200
Yeah.

625
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:45,200
I could totally sympathize.

626
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,400
I think she beautifully captures that emotion here.

627
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,680
I think it's a great performance.

628
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,080
I think it's one of the best songs on the record.

629
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,800
I think one of the best songs for this period in my opinion.

630
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,480
I think it's just spellbinding every time I hear it.

631
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,920
I think this album as a whole really is impressive to me.

632
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:06,600
Coming back to it after a while, I was blown away by how powerful her voice is and just

633
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,360
the emotion on this record.

634
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:13,840
My clickbait headline is, though now able to legally drink in the United States, Adele

635
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,280
instead decides to crush the billboards.

636
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:17,280
Yes.

637
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,280
Yeah.

638
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,320
I mean, she was just such a force at this period and I think it's deserved.

639
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,360
I really came to appreciate this record in hindsight.

640
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:31,040
I mean, her vocals are just, she's able to stir very deep emotions.

641
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,480
She has a real bluesy quality to her voice.

642
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:38,600
We can talk about maybe she's forcing it a little bit at times, but I think that undeniable

643
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:43,560
emotion there and just, I mean, her range and her control over her voice is just, it's

644
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:44,560
incredible.

645
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,040
I mean, she's definitely one of those generation type talents in my opinion.

646
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,280
I think this is probably her strongest record.

647
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,240
So yeah, I really, really love it.

648
00:35:52,240 --> 00:35:53,240
It's great.

649
00:35:53,240 --> 00:35:54,240
All right.

650
00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:57,240
Why don't we set fire to the rain that's next song we're playing.

651
00:35:57,240 --> 00:36:13,360
That song was co-written and produced by a Frazier T Smith.

652
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:20,600
So actually much more, I think dramatic instrumentation, the arrangement I think kind of stands out

653
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:25,320
from the rest of the album, which I think is much simpler.

654
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:30,400
But yeah, it seems like a pretty powerful song about the contradictory elements of a

655
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,280
relationship and how difficult it is to let go.

656
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:40,880
At times there, like her voice has sort of almost like a evil sort of sound to it, kind

657
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,720
of like a Sinead O'Connor kind of vibe.

658
00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:46,880
Evil Sinead O'Connor, yeah.

659
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,880
Yeah, which I like.

660
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:49,880
Evil Sinead O'Connor?

661
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:54,880
Put your pinky up by your lip there.

662
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:55,880
Yeah.

663
00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:03,600
So my clickbait headline for 21 is Breath of Fresh Air Leads to Critical Hot Air.

664
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:08,800
So I mean, this, you know, I mean, Adele is, you know, I mean, she's just an amazing vocal

665
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:09,800
talent.

666
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:14,640
It's an excellent album, but it was just so big.

667
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:20,040
Actually that night that I was at the bar and all eight TVs were on The Walking Dead,

668
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:24,360
the lone remaining TV had the Grammys and it was just Adele winning every single one

669
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:25,360
of them.

670
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:26,360
Adele, Adele, Adele, yeah.

671
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:27,360
Yeah, she crushed.

672
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:33,280
I think sometimes when this happens, you know, things become a bit overrated, like the Alanis

673
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:38,520
Morissette album and Macy Gray or whatever, you know, there's like a female artist that

674
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,880
just gets elevated to this like an amazing status.

675
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,880
And I think it's unfair.

676
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:50,600
It's like we elevate people and then we sort of forget about them, which is unfortunate

677
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:55,000
because it's just a, it's a very good record contrasting it with other things that were

678
00:37:55,000 --> 00:38:02,360
going on at the time that you have your pop artists who are focusing on dance pop or incorporating

679
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:03,600
elements of hip hop.

680
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:08,860
You know, this one is a throwback to old sounds and R&B and soul.

681
00:38:08,860 --> 00:38:13,520
So it was, it was a breath of fresh air at the time.

682
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,840
And her voice really is something special and it's unique.

683
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:24,000
I think Andy mentioned earlier, it's kind of funny, like her accent on a couple of songs,

684
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,560
you know, where she says, take the risk.

685
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:33,920
It just seems like, I think she's maybe overdoing the attempt to have that kind of Southern

686
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,960
soulful voice, you know, when it's not natural for her.

687
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,760
Well, Southern people are known for saying risk.

688
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:46,200
So I don't know, I just think it, sometimes it comes out when you're singing.

689
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,440
She's pushing it a little bit at times.

690
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,800
She's over singing, I would say at times to try to sound more soulful maybe.

691
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:57,160
I mean, who are we to critique fucking Adele singing, but there's moments where I'm like,

692
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,160
yeah, that's not quite right.

693
00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:59,600
A little distracting at times.

694
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:06,160
I think one of the most telling pieces here is that she had multiple producers and she

695
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,340
recorded a lot of these songs as demos.

696
00:39:08,340 --> 00:39:12,440
And then she recorded a lot of them with Rick Rubin, who ended up only producing three of

697
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,400
the tracks on it because she chose the demos.

698
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,920
Yeah, that's cool.

699
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,320
She decided this is her second record.

700
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:20,880
She's like, this is too much.

701
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,080
These are too full of sounds.

702
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,480
I want it more stripped down.

703
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:28,880
So to make those decisions and have it be elevated to this level, at least I feel like

704
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,080
she deserved the accolades.

705
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,560
She was writing on all of these songs.

706
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:38,280
This was her story, her record, and she dictated what those songs were going to sound like.

707
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:39,280
And that's pretty awesome.

708
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,160
I mean, she was 21 years old.

709
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:46,400
I mean, that's so young in the music industry to do this kind of decisions.

710
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:47,400
It's impressive.

711
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:48,400
Yeah.

712
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:53,560
For many reasons, I would like to quickly nominate Adele 21 for the Albinards Hall of

713
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:54,560
Fame.

714
00:39:54,560 --> 00:40:00,080
Adele established herself as the diva of the decade.

715
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,000
Could tell that she's a diva because she has had a residency in Las Vegas.

716
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:08,320
Are we just going to completely overlook Celine Dion's discography here, guys?

717
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:09,320
Or are we...

718
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:10,320
I'm just joking.

719
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:11,320
I'm just joking.

720
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:12,320
I'm just joking.

721
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:13,320
I'm just joking.

722
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:14,320
I'm just joking.

723
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,320
Yeah.

724
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,320
I mean, I completely agree with you on this.

725
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,560
I think this is a great record.

726
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,760
I liked it more now than I did back then.

727
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:22,760
So I will say yes.

728
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:23,760
Yeah.

729
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,600
Despite what I said, it's an excellent album.

730
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,560
So you're willing to take the risk on this?

731
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:30,560
I will.

732
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:31,560
I will.

733
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:32,560
Congratulations, Adele.

734
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,760
So Adele has made it into the Albinards Hall of Fame with her album 21.

735
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,840
I think it's held up and it's a great listen.

736
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,160
Nice for one of those rainy day window albums.

737
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,160
Can you dig it?

738
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,160
Can you dig it?

739
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,440
Can you dig it?

740
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,800
So fast forwarding how many years?

741
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,200
12 years now from 2012 to 2024.

742
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,240
What are you guys digging lately?

743
00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:01,240
All right.

744
00:41:01,240 --> 00:41:04,800
Well, yeah, step around the corner here and I'll show you what I got in my new release

745
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:05,800
bag.

746
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:06,800
Yikes.

747
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:11,920
Why do we have to step around a corner?

748
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,920
Why can't you just take the bag out, man?

749
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,440
You don't want to show everybody.

750
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:16,440
Just private.

751
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:17,440
Oh, geez.

752
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,440
It gets worse and worse.

753
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:26,640
So my first record you're talking about is from saxophonist Charles Lloyd.

754
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,360
This guy's been doing it since the mid-60s.

755
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,520
He's got a new record out called The Sky Will Still Be There Tomorrow.

756
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,120
It's a lengthy record.

757
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:39,120
Kind of a challenging jazz record, I would say, but I've been enjoying it quite a bit.

758
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:46,120
Not a record that's afraid to take its time and meander about that kind of good listening.

759
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,120
Oh, yeah.

760
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:48,120
Yeah.

761
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:52,920
It definitely sounds like one of those introspection albums where you're rethinking everything.

762
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,680
What am I doing with my life?

763
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:56,680
Why am I so handsome?

764
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:57,680
All right.

765
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,320
Next one up here is quite a bit different.

766
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,960
This is from hip hop artist Tierra Whack.

767
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,240
She has a new album called World Wide Whack.

768
00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:10,400
I think it's a mistake.

769
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,000
Maybe it's making whack on whack.

770
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,720
Whack on whack?

771
00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:15,720
Yeah.

772
00:42:15,720 --> 00:42:18,480
In the old days, bad hip hop was whack.

773
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,640
She's taking back whack.

774
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:21,640
She's taking back the whack.

775
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:22,640
It's a little different.

776
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:29,080
It's actually a really inventive, creative hip hop project.

777
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,200
A little bit outside of her usual stuff.

778
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,960
She's a good rapper, but there's a lot of interesting other stuff going on around it.

779
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,720
Kind of a good sense of humor too.

780
00:42:37,720 --> 00:42:42,800
I like the lullaby beat there.

781
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,120
You don't normally hear songs about smelling shit.

782
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,440
She's the shit that you smell, man.

783
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:49,680
That's her.

784
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,880
That's the whack she brought back.

785
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:52,880
Nice.

786
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:53,880
All right.

787
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,440
Well, it certainly makes it interesting enough to go check out.

788
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:58,440
Yeah.

789
00:42:58,440 --> 00:42:59,440
That's pretty good.

790
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:00,440
All right.

791
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:01,440
Let's see.

792
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:02,440
Adrienne Lenker.

793
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:03,440
Adrienne.

794
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:04,440
From Big Thief.

795
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:05,440
Singer, songwriter, folk rock vibe.

796
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:06,440
The new record is called Bright Future.

797
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:07,440
I think this record is really, really good.

798
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:08,440
I think it might be among my favorites of the year so far.

799
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:23,440
It's a very introspective, kind of quiet record, but she is a very good songwriter.

800
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,440
Sounds like if Stevie Nicks went country a little bit.

801
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:27,440
Yeah.

802
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,440
She reminds me a lot of Amy Leperis.

803
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:31,440
Yeah.

804
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:32,440
That's what I was thinking.

805
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:33,440
Maybe not.

806
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,440
She's young still, but in that vein.

807
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,440
Nice.

808
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,440
Would you have been digging on down?

809
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:43,320
Well, one group, I've never spent a lot of time with them, but whenever I hear something

810
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,440
from them, I'm usually like, oh, I like that.

811
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:46,440
That's nice.

812
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:52,000
So the band Guster has been around since the late 90s.

813
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:56,920
They have an album coming out in May called Ooh La La, and they have a song out from it

814
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,760
called Keep Going, which sounds nice.

815
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:04,440
It doesn't sound as folky as Guster used to sound.

816
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:05,440
True.

817
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,640
I remember the fans used to make a big deal about they would like, only their drumming

818
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,760
was something was up with their drumming, right?

819
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,040
It was all by hand.

820
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,680
I think they didn't use sticks or mallets.

821
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,160
Any percussion they were using was by hand, but I think they moved on from that.

822
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:20,160
I don't think that's true any longer.

823
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:24,120
Got a little sore.

824
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,120
Arthritis as you get older.

825
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:32,040
Okay, so I went to a new release from a band that I've loved for a long time.

826
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:37,520
It's the Black Crows with Happiness Basterds, their ninth studio album.

827
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,760
I think they haven't had an album since 2009 or something.

828
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,800
It's been a long time.

829
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,460
The Brothers Robinson have reconvened.

830
00:44:45,460 --> 00:44:46,460
They broke up for a while.

831
00:44:46,460 --> 00:44:48,720
They have had some problems with each other.

832
00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:53,600
They've got a guest vocal from Laney Wilson, Andy's favorite country artist.

833
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,840
And it's good black crowsiness.

834
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,000
I've listened to it a couple of times so far.

835
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,000
Sounds fun.

836
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,000
I still got the swagger.

837
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,000
Yeah.

838
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,920
Country artist Cody Jenks, back with another album, Changed the Game.

839
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,680
He's kind of an independent country artist.

840
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,880
I've liked him for a long time.

841
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:11,880
Good discography.

842
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:16,200
A lot about struggling with addiction and figuring out how to live life.

843
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,600
And I know Andy, we've talked about him before.

844
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,640
Would you guys think about this kind of thing?

845
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:21,640
Love it.

846
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,120
Would you be interested on Yellowstone?

847
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,440
Not yet, but you never know.

848
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:26,440
I got this one.

849
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,200
I haven't heard of it yet.

850
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:34,320
And finally, what would an Album Nerds podcast be without talking about Dave Grohl or the

851
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:35,520
Foo Fighters?

852
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:42,000
I recently grabbed this EP from 2015 that originally was going to be released as fan

853
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,000
service.

854
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,000
They did a free download of it.

855
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,160
It's called the St. Cecilia EP.

856
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:49,400
It was after their Sonic Highways project that was kind of like, eh.

857
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,680
And this was more back to the roots of the foos.

858
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,120
It's an enjoyable little listen.

859
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,840
It's just a few songs and very fooey.

860
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,000
I guess one of the tracks was originally written for the color and the shape.

861
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,000
Cool.

862
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,240
Is that a 12 inch or is that a little guy?

863
00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:04,240
12 inch, yeah.

864
00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:07,240
13 on a good day.

865
00:46:07,240 --> 00:46:08,240
Jesus.

866
00:46:08,240 --> 00:46:09,240
Okay.

867
00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:10,520
So what are you doing?

868
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:11,520
Let us know.

869
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,040
Hit us on the socials, Facebook, Instagram, threads.

870
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:20,880
And on our website, albumnerds.com.

871
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,680
It will be a discovery of extraordinary value.

872
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,920
All right, guys.

873
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:35,840
Well, I perused through a lot of pop culture from 2012 to find something that really summed

874
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,680
up what the year means to me.

875
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:43,920
So with that in mind, I'm reminded of, do you guys remember the show Duck Dynasty?

876
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,440
Yeah, I never watched it.

877
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,240
I never saw it, but I remember it was guys with ZZ top beards.

878
00:46:49,240 --> 00:46:52,480
Yeah, reality show, haunting ducks, I assume.

879
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,080
Yeah, their stuff.

880
00:46:54,080 --> 00:47:01,680
Well, the old dude, kind of the grandpa duck there, C. Robertson said, I quote, I own the

881
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,160
MacGyver of cooking.

882
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:08,920
If you bring me a piece of bread, cabbage, coconut, mustard greens, pig's feet and pine

883
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,600
cones and a woodpecker, I'll make you a great chicken pot pie.

884
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,680
Wouldn't it be a pecker pie pie?

885
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,680
I think it would be a pecker pie, wouldn't it?

886
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:22,640
Anyway, sorry for that nonsense.

887
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:27,160
Let's bring out my friend in yours, Wadbot, to see what we'll be discussing on next week's

888
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:35,160
show.

889
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,840
Your journey of musical discovery continues.

890
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:43,600
Music carries with it the emotion and creativity shaped by life experiences.

891
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:48,360
Sometimes music is born of family traditions and shared experience.

892
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:53,440
Next week, you will explore albums created by bands that feature family members.

893
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:54,440
That seems doable.

894
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:55,440
Should be fun.

895
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,280
Okay, who are your favorite familial artists?

896
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:00,900
What else are you listening to?

897
00:48:00,900 --> 00:48:01,900
Let us know.

898
00:48:01,900 --> 00:48:05,400
Leave a comment on our website or email us at podcast at albumnerds.com.

899
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,760
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900
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,640
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901
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:16,280
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902
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:17,280
support.

903
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,960
Thank you once again for joining us here at the Album Nerds podcast.

904
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,000
We look forward to having some family time.

905
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,000
Yeah, nice listening everybody.

906
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,000
Catch you next week.

907
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,000
You could have had it all.

908
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,000
Rolling in the deep.

909
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,000
Wow.

910
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,000
Todd is about to pass out.

911
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,000
Fail alert there.

912
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:39,000
Geez.

913
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,000
I mean, between the three of us.

914
00:48:43,000 --> 00:49:04,780
Oh, you do it once again.

