1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,440 Welcome to the Album Nerds podcast with your hosts Andy, Don, and Dude. 2 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,000 I am a legend. 3 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:16,480 It's Album Nerds podcast. 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:17,480 I'm Dude. 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:18,880 I got Andy and Don with me. 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:20,640 Andy, how you doing my friend? 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:21,920 You ready for a legendary day? 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,600 Yeah buddy, every day is a legendary day on the Album Nerds podcast. 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:26,600 Okay. 10 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:27,600 Am I right? 11 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,600 I'm not sure. 12 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,960 I hope the answer is yes from our listeners. 13 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:34,960 Don, how you doing man? 14 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:35,960 Good. 15 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,520 Just got finished chopping up some Octo-Rocks. 16 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,040 Octo-Rocks? 17 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:43,960 This isn't the Legend of Zelda episode. 18 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:44,960 I thought. 19 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:45,960 Oh jeez. 20 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:46,960 Oh my gosh. 21 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:48,960 I think they were called Octo-Rocks. 22 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:54,760 The big fluffy rock guys that shoot things at you. 23 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,200 That game was far too much work for me at that stage of my life. 24 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,400 I'm like, I just want to eat a mushroom, grow and jump on stuff. 25 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,600 Hit my head, get some coins. 26 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:05,600 All right. 27 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,400 So this is the Album Nerds podcast. 28 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,040 We love talking about albums and the album format. 29 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:17,280 And today we're going to be talking about some albums from legendary artists. 30 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:18,680 Their very latest releases. 31 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,120 We've got a great show for you. 32 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:24,280 We're going to go through some of the stuff that we checked out and prep for the show. 33 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,240 Then we're going to get to all of our album selections. 34 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,240 We're going to answer a question loosely related to today's topic. 35 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,040 And then we're going to spin the wheel of musical destiny to find out what we're going 36 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,680 to talk about on the next show. 37 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,240 But right now it's time for some legends. 38 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:38,240 It's going to be legend. 39 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:39,240 Wait for it. 40 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,720 And I hope you're not lactose intolerant because the second half of that word is dairy. 41 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,680 That's what I'm talking about. 42 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:50,440 Well, the term legend is of course subjective, but anyone would agree that we discuss many 43 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:54,240 legends on this podcast from Prince to John Coltrane. 44 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,200 Unfortunately each year we lose some. 45 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,320 Like this year we've lost Jeff Beck, Tony Bennett, and Robbie Robertson. 46 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,360 But fortunately many music legends are still with us. 47 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,880 Often we focus on albums from early in their careers. 48 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:10,080 But today we are each presenting the latest album from a legend. 49 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,540 It's a bigger ask than you would think. 50 00:02:12,540 --> 00:02:18,600 Because when you're listening to newer records by legends, often you're just kind of aching 51 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,000 to go listen to one of their early records. 52 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,000 So how'd you guys do? 53 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,000 Yeah, this was a bit of a challenge. 54 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,080 I mean there's the question of like legendary. 55 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:28,080 What qualifies as legendary? 56 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,600 Legendary to me is not legendary to you necessarily. 57 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:35,840 And we had a few of those debates, but I'll throw out a couple that I think are in the 58 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:36,840 ballpark at least. 59 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,840 Listen to the new Red Hatchley Peppers, returned from the dream canteen. 60 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:41,840 Me too. 61 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:46,040 It's like a psychedelic sort of jammy record in comparison to some of the poppier stuff 62 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,240 they've been doing lately. 63 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,360 Listen to Bob Dylan's Shadow Kingdom that came out earlier this year. 64 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,720 There's like one or two really good songs on there. 65 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:54,720 Not a legend. 66 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:55,720 Not a legend. 67 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:56,720 It doesn't count. 68 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:02,760 Ben Morrison's moving on Skiffle. 69 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,840 Didn't he do like Over the Rainbow or something? 70 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,320 Wasn't he doing like goofy old tracks or something? 71 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,200 There's a lot of covers on there. 72 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,120 And I think there are some originals, some new stuff though, about two. 73 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:14,120 That's okay. 74 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:19,200 The one I kind of wanted to go with was the latest Blur record, Ballad of Darren. 75 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:24,200 It's not something like that at all. 76 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:28,880 It's a really good record, but we were debating whether or not Blur was really legendary or 77 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,880 at the stage of their career at least. 78 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,680 But yeah, how about you Don? 79 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:38,120 Well I started, for some reason I started thinking about like electronic music. 80 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:43,120 I mean I could have done Gary Newman, but we did one of his albums recently. 81 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:48,880 I actually went to Kraftwerk, those German pioneers of kind of electronic noise. 82 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,400 They actually, their last album was in 2003. 83 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:52,400 It's called Tour de France. 84 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,000 It was actually for the Tour de France. 85 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:00,480 Kind of an interesting listen, but also Brian Eno, he finally, he did an album that actually 86 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,040 had vocals on it fairly recently. 87 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,800 And it was interesting, but I don't know. 88 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,360 I thought it was kind of a difficult listen. 89 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,160 Yeah, I listened to that one too. 90 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,560 I ended up making a more obvious pick. 91 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:17,400 I think we all kind of gravitated towards obvious so that we wouldn't be spending too 92 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:22,880 much time in the show debating whether or not the artists or band or whatever is legendary. 93 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,080 The big ones, Rolling Stones, Hackney Diamonds, that just came out. 94 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:31,780 I don't know if any of us have had time to digest it enough for us to feel one way or 95 00:04:31,780 --> 00:04:32,920 another about it. 96 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:33,920 It's okay. 97 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:34,920 That's pretty good. 98 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,640 Mellencamp's Orpheus Descending. 99 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,440 He sounds more and more like Tom Waits with every record. 100 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,840 Paul McCartney III from 2020. 101 00:04:41,840 --> 00:04:44,920 ACDC Power Up from 2020. 102 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:49,360 I thought about Loretta Lynn's Still Woman enough from 2021 is pretty damn good. 103 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:50,640 That is a good record. 104 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,240 Yeah, got some good guests on it and stuff. 105 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:54,840 But we just did Country last week. 106 00:04:54,840 --> 00:04:58,440 So REM Collapse and then now their final album in 2011. 107 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,440 I never really listened to it. 108 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,080 It's pretty good. 109 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,480 It's got all the right REM-ness that I'm looking for. 110 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,640 It was surprisingly enjoyable. 111 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:07,640 I was close on that one. 112 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,640 I had a little fun with it, but the fun and games are over. 113 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:11,640 It's time to get to work. 114 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:21,560 You choo choo choose me? 115 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,320 I'm going to do what I want to do now. 116 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:29,360 And it's the freedom of creating records because I just feel like it. 117 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:33,000 I want more people to join me for my era. 118 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,640 I want them to join it. 119 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,000 Releasing records. 120 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:41,160 Working hard on these shits. 121 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,760 That is of course Nas. 122 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:49,520 We're going to be talking about his 17th studio album titled Magic 3. 123 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,680 I had no idea there were that many records. 124 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,240 It's been busy, especially lately. 125 00:05:54,240 --> 00:06:00,000 This album came out back in September 14th of 2023 on his 50th birthday. 126 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:04,520 We are going to play this is the third track called Superhero Status. 127 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:19,120 I love that track, especially that sample on that track. 128 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:20,120 I don't know, man. 129 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:21,920 I couldn't get that sample out of my head all week. 130 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,560 It's from a 70's artist by the name of Eddie Kendricks. 131 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:25,960 You guys familiar? 132 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,640 I believe he was in The Temptations. 133 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:30,640 He was in The Temptations? 134 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:31,640 Yeah. 135 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:32,640 Cool. 136 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:37,560 This is the sixth album that Nas has put out over the last couple of years in this 137 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:38,560 run. 138 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:43,720 There's been three in the Magic series and three in this King's Disease series. 139 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:48,640 The kind of unifying force behind all these records is the production from an artist named 140 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:53,000 Hitboy who's been doing all the producing work and kind of working pretty closely with 141 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,720 Nas on developing the sound he's been putting out. 142 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,440 Kind of this bit of a late career renaissance for him I would say over the last few years 143 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,280 here really kind of since the pandemic. 144 00:07:01,280 --> 00:07:02,800 He's been doing some really great stuff. 145 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,160 The three words I had for this record are a magical run. 146 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:11,680 It's just so impressive to see someone who's like 50 plus now putting out stuff that is 147 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:16,000 maybe not as great as what he was doing in the 90's, but I think it's really high caliber 148 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,880 work and just the quantity of it is really impressive. 149 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:23,680 Well, not only the quantity, but I listened to this record and I was like, oh man, this 150 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:24,680 is really good. 151 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:25,680 He's still got it. 152 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,560 There's been like six records in the span of a couple of years. 153 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:35,240 With all that quantity, I would expect a severe drop in quality, especially when you're pumping 154 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:40,200 them out at the rate he is, I would expect that it's phoning it in to cash checks somehow. 155 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:41,200 Yeah, right. 156 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:42,200 You would think so. 157 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:46,080 Or to fulfill record company contracts that you have to put out records or whatever. 158 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:47,880 I was really impressed. 159 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,320 I mean, it sounded fresh to me. 160 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,400 If you said this was a new artist, I'd be like, man, this guy's good. 161 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,000 Well, he's been reborn. 162 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:00,120 Okay, so why don't we play another cut from the record. 163 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,760 This is entitled, Eever. 164 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:07,360 Deepak Chopra makes his name. 165 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,400 That's impressive. 166 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:25,000 Yeah, so of course, like all the others that was co-written with Hitboy. 167 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:32,920 This song in particular, but maybe the whole album feels like a reflection on his career. 168 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,800 The one line, celebrating years of flows and crazy wordplay. 169 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,280 And then a lot of this seemed to be him. 170 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,440 I can't believe he's 50 years old, but that's... 171 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,800 He looks good for 50. 172 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,840 He sure does and sounds good. 173 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:50,840 Hey. 174 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,960 Yeah, also another lyric in that song, fly from infancy to half a century. 175 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,280 So that's him turning 50, I guess. 176 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,200 And yeah, so the three words I chose to describe the album. 177 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,000 Actually another reference that last week I mentioned Jimmy Buffett's song, A Pirate 178 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,000 Looks at 40. 179 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:10,920 So I did a rapper looks at 50. 180 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:17,400 As long as Nas does not do a sample from cheeseburgers in paradise, I think we're going to be okay. 181 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,520 He can probably make it work. 182 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:26,760 I'm glad Andy found this album because I actually, I was looking around, I wanted to find a hip 183 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,360 hop legend that was still doing stuff. 184 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:35,960 And I don't know, it still seems like hip hop is a young man's game. 185 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:42,000 The founding fathers from the 80s and 70s, they're either in the background producing 186 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,820 or something, or they're just not putting their names on records anymore. 187 00:09:45,820 --> 00:09:49,440 So it's nice to see that Nas is still doing it. 188 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:55,400 And I want to hear what these guys have to say in middle age or just past middle age. 189 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,840 Yeah, that's exactly what Nas says in that clip. 190 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:03,200 He wants that perspective of people looking back on generations of hip hop to be more 191 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,080 of the conversation and not just so like, here's what's going on right now, which I 192 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,280 think is a really valid point. 193 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:10,280 Yeah. 194 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:17,600 And this, again, other than Illmatic, I haven't really followed Nas's career. 195 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:24,880 But this one just seems very focused and up close and personal. 196 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:31,800 The Hit Boy production and beats are intricate, but I don't know, it has a simple feel to 197 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:32,800 me. 198 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,720 And I love actually that there's no special guests. 199 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,840 There's one with Lil Wayne. 200 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:39,840 Lil Wayne, yeah. 201 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,480 But everything else, it's just Nas and Hit Boy. 202 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,320 I like that a lot. 203 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:51,040 I will give Lil Wayne some credit though, because that track, Never Die, that's a great 204 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,040 song. 205 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,680 And I love the rhyme schemes that go on there, but Lil Wayne nails it. 206 00:10:55,680 --> 00:10:59,840 He does such a good job with the way he puts those words together and makes them rhyme, 207 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:01,280 even though they don't. 208 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:02,280 He sounds great. 209 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:03,280 It does sound good. 210 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,680 I've kind of forgotten about him since he started trying to play guitar. 211 00:11:06,680 --> 00:11:09,720 So I'm pretty impressed actually. 212 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:14,560 Yeah, it's pretty common for Nas to really just feature one or two close friends on a 213 00:11:14,560 --> 00:11:15,560 record. 214 00:11:15,560 --> 00:11:19,040 But yeah, the focus is really on his wordplay. 215 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:24,120 Storytelling is a big part of this record as usually is on his type of stuff. 216 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:30,200 He's great at placing you into a scene or a setting, a place maybe you're not familiar 217 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:31,200 with. 218 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:36,560 Oh, it just seems like he and Hit Boy have great chemistry. 219 00:11:36,560 --> 00:11:40,100 And it doesn't feel like he's chasing hits at all. 220 00:11:40,100 --> 00:11:42,360 He's just getting in the studio and rapping. 221 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,920 Yeah, it seems like exercising, just kind of having fun. 222 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,560 Let me play another cut here. 223 00:11:47,560 --> 00:11:50,520 This is track five, No Tears. 224 00:11:50,520 --> 00:12:12,120 Yeah, so a little bit of a look back at life and the struggles of his youth and how he 225 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:19,040 was able to rise above and not dwell in it and have success and build something for himself. 226 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:23,560 And then that outro mentioning being in his 50s and how you can get there. 227 00:12:23,560 --> 00:12:25,520 And of course, my life experience is different. 228 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:31,680 But as a guy around his age, it just sounds so young and confident and strong. 229 00:12:31,680 --> 00:12:35,920 It makes me feel a little bit like that myself. 230 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:37,200 So it ain't over. 231 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,120 A lot of life to live. 232 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,400 But it's not going to do it. 233 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:43,400 I mean, why the hell not? 234 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:44,400 Right. 235 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:45,400 Hold ourselves to that standard. 236 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,640 Maybe he's got a little something special going on there. 237 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:53,120 But so the three words I used to describe this album are grown man's hip hop. 238 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,240 I'm a grown ass man, dog. 239 00:12:55,240 --> 00:13:01,400 I was alluding to it is this is this is mature, but it also sounds vital and new. 240 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:06,480 But it definitely is, you know, adults, older folks, I think, will have a lot to relate 241 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:12,080 to here and I think younger people can maybe get a good honest picture of what it's like 242 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,760 to see your life behind you. 243 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:20,040 And let's all hope that 50 is only halfway, you know, and that you got 50 more to go. 244 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,960 So I love the beats and the production and the samples. 245 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:28,720 Hip-boy, this partnership, as we mentioned, at least on this record, very impressive. 246 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:33,080 I was reading that this may be the pinnacle of that so far, that this might be the best 247 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:34,400 that they've done together. 248 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:39,160 Supposedly, it's going to be the last of the of their projects together. 249 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:40,160 There was some speculation. 250 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:41,760 I don't know if it's warranted. 251 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,360 This might be now as his last project, but I don't know. 252 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:46,360 That's unclear. 253 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:47,360 Yeah. 254 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,880 I mean, I love that clip we played at the beginning where he's encouraging other artists 255 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,900 from from that golden era of hip hop to come out, be vital. 256 00:13:55,900 --> 00:14:01,560 You don't have to do it to gain an audience or for any other reason to express yourself. 257 00:14:01,560 --> 00:14:04,760 And that's what's really cool about this is that's all that is. 258 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,000 And it is awesome at the same time. 259 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,000 Yeah. 260 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:12,400 So if you haven't heard what now has been up to lately, you were a fan back in the 90s 261 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:13,400 or whatever. 262 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:18,520 Yeah, definitely check out this run of projects with the King's Disease and Magic series. 263 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,320 I think they're worth the time. 264 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,320 Once again, Nas Magic 3. 265 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:24,320 I'm good enough. 266 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,440 I'm smart enough and doggone it. 267 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:27,440 People like me. 268 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,800 If you're enjoying the show and we hope you are, do us a solid and leave a review on Apple 269 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,640 podcasts or your favorite podcast app. 270 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,880 Maybe we made you laugh or you discovered an album you enjoy. 271 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:42,240 Leaving a review keeps the show going and helps other music fans find us. 272 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:43,240 Sting! 273 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:44,240 There's Stinglhoffer! 274 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:45,240 Making copies! 275 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:46,240 We make Stingster! 276 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:47,240 Stingatola! 277 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:48,240 Sting! 278 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:49,240 Stingalinga ding ding ding ding! 279 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:50,240 Sting! 280 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:51,240 Sting! 281 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:52,240 Sting! 282 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:53,240 Sting! 283 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:54,240 Sting! 284 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:55,240 Sting! 285 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:56,240 Sting! 286 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:57,240 Sting! 287 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:05,280 Yeah, so the legend I chose is Sting, born Gordon Matthew Thomas Sumner in Walson, England 288 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:06,280 in 1951. 289 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:12,800 Sting, of course, was the front man and bassist of the band The Police and has been a successful 290 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,540 solo artist for almost 40 years. 291 00:15:16,540 --> 00:15:22,240 His most recent release is an album called The Bridge from November 2021. 292 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:35,680 Here's the opening cut, Rushing Water. 293 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:42,040 Rushing Water was co-written with producer Martin Kierzenbaum and somebody named Gavin 294 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:43,040 Brown. 295 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:49,600 Yeah, the refrain and really the whole song does remind me of The Police, probably more 296 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:54,880 than any Sting song I've heard in recent years. 297 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,960 This is the sound of rushing water flooding through my brain. 298 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:02,720 That part, yeah, it just sounds like something that could have been on Ghost in the Machine 299 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,000 or something. 300 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:09,400 I think the song is basically dealing with the pressure that we feel and chaos. 301 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:16,200 Of course, this album was written at the time of the pandemic and all the other chaos that's 302 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:17,200 going on. 303 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:22,840 In fact, Sting quoted as saying, in a year of global pandemic, personal loss, separation, 304 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:27,360 disruption, lockdown, and extraordinary social and political turmoil. 305 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,360 In this song, Rushing Water, he actually has the line, what we have here is so easy to 306 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:35,680 solve, just take a firm purpose and some resolve. 307 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:42,680 I like that even though I think this album is serious, there's still hope in it. 308 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:47,440 I'm the Stinger, that's who I am. 309 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,200 But yeah, I love the youthful energy in that track. 310 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:56,280 The three words I chose to describe the album are fields of silver. 311 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:01,320 The fields of gold. 312 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:05,040 So I mean, it's a very good album, perhaps not fantastic. 313 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,840 So it's not quite gold, maybe silver or copper. 314 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:11,000 I think his hair had gone like gray or something. 315 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:15,360 Well, that was, yeah, that's the, it's like a, it's a triple entendre or something here. 316 00:17:15,360 --> 00:17:16,360 Impressive. 317 00:17:16,360 --> 00:17:21,640 Like I've kind of ignored him since 10 Summoner's Tales, which featured the song Fields of Gold, 318 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,800 which I actually, even in my grunge heyday, I enjoyed that record. 319 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:30,360 And then he started getting a little too world musicky for my taste and I kind of moved on. 320 00:17:30,360 --> 00:17:32,320 But this felt kind of like that record. 321 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,560 God, I remember that Desert Rose song. 322 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:35,560 I hated it so much. 323 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:36,560 Yes, that's what ruined it. 324 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:45,320 I hated that. 325 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,840 That pretty much put me off Sting until listening to this. 326 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:49,840 Yeah. 327 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,240 So, and then he did that album with Shaggy a couple of years ago and I'm like, no, thank 328 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:54,240 you. 329 00:17:54,240 --> 00:18:00,800 If it was the guy from Scooby Doo, I would have been into it, but it was, it was the 330 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:01,800 guy. 331 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:02,800 Yeah. 332 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:03,800 Zoiks. 333 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:08,360 I'm a big fan of the police. 334 00:18:08,360 --> 00:18:14,000 I liked their blend of sort of reggae and post-punk, but I always felt like, and of 335 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:19,720 course I was young at the time, really young, but it just seemed like in 1985 when he went 336 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,840 off on his own, all of a sudden he aged 20 years. 337 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,600 He just seemed like an old adult contemporary artist. 338 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:27,600 Yeah. 339 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:33,120 Now, I don't know, I guess I'm at the age where I'm ready for Sting and I appreciate 340 00:18:33,120 --> 00:18:34,120 it. 341 00:18:34,120 --> 00:18:37,480 So, I really enjoyed this album a lot. 342 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,600 I like the mellowness of it. 343 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:46,880 I like, as I said before, sort of the serious tone, but also that element of hope. 344 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:52,120 Even though it's mostly, I think, a pop record, it still has those elements of rock and jazz 345 00:18:52,120 --> 00:18:55,280 and reggae and classical that he always does. 346 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:56,280 All right. 347 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,000 Well, let's hear some more. 348 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,520 Here is the book of numbers. 349 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:16,360 I think what I liked about that track was just, he sounds really good. 350 00:19:16,360 --> 00:19:19,560 He sounds like nothing, his voice hasn't changed at all. 351 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:24,920 Now that could have, he could have had some electronic help, I don't know, but sounded 352 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:25,920 great. 353 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:26,920 He sounded like Sting. 354 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:27,920 He does. 355 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:28,920 Yeah. 356 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:33,360 Great addition. 357 00:19:33,360 --> 00:19:41,360 It's just a tiny bit of gravel in his voice, which I think sounds good. 358 00:19:41,360 --> 00:19:43,120 Sting will be another person who's a hero. 359 00:19:43,120 --> 00:19:46,920 The music that he's created over the years, I don't really listen to it, but the fact 360 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,120 that he's making it, I respect that. 361 00:19:49,120 --> 00:19:50,120 I agree. 362 00:19:50,120 --> 00:19:55,720 So, the three words I used to describe the album were, can still sting. 363 00:19:55,720 --> 00:20:01,000 Like Don said earlier, I think the police are way cooler than Sting's solo output myself, 364 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:05,280 but it has its place and it is pleasant and the older I've gotten, I probably appreciate 365 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:09,760 that chill vibe that he puts out more than I did as a kid. 366 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:16,120 So he's still doing his thing and there's that loose theme of bridges throughout the 367 00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:21,740 album, like musical forms of bridges, memory and time, life and death, and then all those 368 00:20:21,740 --> 00:20:25,040 allusions to water throughout the album. 369 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:31,360 What I read was after he had completed recording, he was like, hey, a lot of these songs have 370 00:20:31,360 --> 00:20:38,800 water in them and put together what that theme was after the fact that he subconsciously 371 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,720 was thinking about these things. 372 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,240 I think that's cool too. 373 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:43,240 Okay. 374 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:44,560 Well, let's hear another one. 375 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,200 This is Bells of St. Thomas. 376 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,200 Oh, thank God. 377 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,200 I thought it was a different word than bells. 378 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,600 I thought it was balls. 379 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,600 That's what Sting would write about. 380 00:20:55,600 --> 00:21:15,080 It's part of that Tantric thing he does. 381 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:21,720 I've now ruined that song because I'm applying the lyrics to my theoretical title. 382 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:26,880 Well, I mean, based on the lyrical content of the song, you might not be that far off 383 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:27,880 from what it's about. 384 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:33,400 It seems to be about an affair, was the impression I had. 385 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:37,840 I mean, a good part of this record seems to deal with infidelity or at least troubled 386 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:38,840 relationships. 387 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:43,000 Maybe it's a bridge over troubled waters would be a good words for this record. 388 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,920 But the three words I used to describe it are bridge over a trickle. 389 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:53,000 Hey, is that like a reference to not being able to pee when you get older? 390 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,120 Like a prostate thing, that's not cool. 391 00:21:55,120 --> 00:21:56,120 Not cool. 392 00:21:56,120 --> 00:21:57,120 Not per se. 393 00:21:57,120 --> 00:21:59,600 I feel like he doesn't have that problem. 394 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,240 I think he just seems extremely healthy. 395 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:07,160 Yeah, he's a virile 72, I'll tell you. 396 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,560 I'm sure we could all learn a lot from Sting's aging. 397 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,360 Yeah, I mean, Sting is someone I've always been curious about. 398 00:22:13,360 --> 00:22:17,560 Whenever I see him interviewed on a talk show or something, he's always very interesting 399 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,200 and lots of insightful things to say about music and just living. 400 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:27,280 But yeah, this album, it was very simple and I guess a passive would be the other word 401 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:28,280 I'd use to describe it. 402 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:29,280 Yeah. 403 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:30,280 It's really bad or a good thing. 404 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,760 I guess I was just hoping for more from it. 405 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,960 I had those thoughts from the 90s of this is gonna be more like world music, which it 406 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,280 really isn't at all, at least hardly at all. 407 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,880 So I was hoping for more of that, I guess, I kind of like just something different, a 408 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,040 little bit more in terms of the instrumentation. 409 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:52,360 The other thing that kind of bothered me or I got stuck on a lot was just the rhyming 410 00:22:52,360 --> 00:22:55,920 at Amp's Listen to the Nas record and then come and listen to this. 411 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:56,920 Right. 412 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:02,880 Sometimes I'm like really, yeah, really painfully obvious at times. 413 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:03,880 Yeah. 414 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,720 The sky turned yellow, he was a nice fellow. 415 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,200 Yeah, it's not too far off. 416 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:16,280 Yeah, it just feels a little, again, overly simplistic, I guess, for what I expected this 417 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,840 to maybe be, which is probably my own bias here coming into play. 418 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,240 There's a couple of interesting songs on the expanded edition of this. 419 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:27,240 That's a few of those tracks towards the end, instrumental track, kind of like a version 420 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,880 of one of the other songs in here, Captain Bateman, that I thought was kind of interesting 421 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,960 and a cover of Sitting by the Dock of the Bay, which I thought was pretty good. 422 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,920 But yeah, I guess that was just kind of the middle of the road, middle of Harmony Road, 423 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,120 you could say, on this record. 424 00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:47,840 OK, so the latest from the legendary Sting is an album called The Bridge from November 425 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:48,840 2021. 426 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:55,480 Excuse me, I'd like to ask you a few questions. 427 00:23:55,480 --> 00:24:00,200 Now, deep questions with Don. 428 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:05,240 Well, what legend would you guys want to hang out with? 429 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,480 Well, I mean, my answer is you two. 430 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,120 But I'd be interested to see what Andy thinks. 431 00:24:12,120 --> 00:24:15,240 That's a good question. 432 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:20,280 There are a lot of people that came to mind that would just be cool to like kind of pick 433 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,000 their brains and how they did what they did. 434 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:26,760 But I think to just like hang out with and just hear some stories and like maybe get 435 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,000 into trouble or do something stupid with. 436 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:34,080 Tom Waits has got to be like one of the most interesting guys I can think of that probably 437 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:38,240 has some random stories that I would love to hear in his Bradley voice. 438 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,920 Just bring a carton of smokes and he'll watch it in the door. 439 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:43,920 Bala Bourbon. 440 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:49,640 Yeah, I mean, I was listening to his latest record as part for the show Bad as Me, which 441 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,280 came out like over a decade ago. 442 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:52,280 It's pretty solid. 443 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:58,000 But he also popped up in a movie I saw recently, Licorice Pizza, which came out last year. 444 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,000 It was an interesting cameo in it. 445 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,000 Yuck. 446 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,000 You don't want some of that Licorice Pizza? 447 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,480 I don't want Licorice in any form. 448 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:10,000 But yeah, Tom becomes a cameo in that movie, he just does like some insane stuff where 449 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:16,200 he is like just off the wall zany stuff and he's got to be in like pushing 75, I would 450 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:17,200 guess. 451 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,000 So yeah, he's a he's a character and I'd love to spend some time with him. 452 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:25,720 Yeah, so my initial reaction was to think of someone in music and one that comes to 453 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,360 mind is Dave Grohl. 454 00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:30,400 But I recently read his book or the audio book. 455 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,760 So I listened to his book, but he's the narrator and I kind of feel like I know him a little 456 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,840 bit from him telling stories about his upbringing and everything. 457 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,000 So I think I know him enough for now. 458 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,120 I want to go with something a little weirder. 459 00:25:44,120 --> 00:25:46,600 I'd want to hang out with Stephen King. 460 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:47,600 Stephen King. 461 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,000 Why Stephen King? 462 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:59,400 I mean, he's a functioning normal human being, but he is for decades come up with some messed 463 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:00,920 up stuff. 464 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,880 And I would love to I would love to talk to someone who just want to understand how you 465 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:11,000 unleash that part of your brain and then close it back up against you can function in society. 466 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,640 Yeah, he's just a fascinating dude. 467 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:19,240 Whenever I see interviews where he's weighing in on any topic, I watch it. 468 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,200 He's just got some really good insights into human behavior and stuff. 469 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,400 So yeah, Stephen King. 470 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:31,000 And then I want to get I want to get co-writing credits on the next the next one. 471 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,680 Yeah, it's a difficult question. 472 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:40,240 I'm always kind of afraid to meet celebrities, particularly people that I admire because 473 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,180 I feel like they're going to let me down or I'm going to I'm going to gush and bore the 474 00:26:44,180 --> 00:26:47,400 hell out of them asking them stupid questions. 475 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:52,600 And what was up with the fourth song on the album? 476 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,800 Or trying or trying like prove that you know them better than they know themselves. 477 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:01,600 And it's like, yeah, yeah, actually. 478 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,160 And then, you know, I mean, I think I'd rather like people that are just like borderline 479 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,280 celebrities who probably aren't too full of themselves. 480 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:14,440 And so I was thinking, you know, that Eddie Trunk guy that used to host like that was 481 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,600 it called that metal show or something on VH1 Classic? 482 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:22,520 He's got he's got XM radio stuff and he's like the insider. 483 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:27,960 And I think that's a great way to get people to talk to him or, you know, Matt Pinfield, 484 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,180 who's also sort of like a music nerd. 485 00:27:30,180 --> 00:27:34,280 I think I could probably just talk music with those guys for for hours. 486 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,480 And I don't think they would be annoyed by it. 487 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,360 Like I know if if I met when I have that conversation. 488 00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:41,360 Yeah. 489 00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:44,640 If I met Johnny Maher, like I don't know that he's going to want to talk guitar for five 490 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:45,640 hours or something. 491 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,040 But you know, these guys, you know, yeah. 492 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:53,960 We talked about Anthrax because he was friends with those guys and like for the Cry For The 493 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:58,500 Indians song when they perform it live, he went downtown New York City and found the 494 00:27:58,500 --> 00:28:02,200 headdress that they used in the video and then for live performances. 495 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,800 So he's like really mixed in with that world. 496 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,560 So yeah, that's a good one, Don. 497 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,440 So what legend do you want to hang out with? 498 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:11,440 Let us know. 499 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,660 Hit us up on the socials, Facebook, Instagram and threads. 500 00:28:14,660 --> 00:28:18,040 Also on Discord, AlbumNerds.com slash Discord. 501 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:24,520 Would rather see Metallica be broke and penniless on welfare than see them as they are today. 502 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:25,520 This is a nightmare. 503 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,200 All I can say is it's sad, pathetic. 504 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,200 What the f*** are we doing? 505 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,200 Hey Jimmy, here's your phone back. 506 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,520 Lars ruins the band. 507 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,440 See headline. 508 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:46,640 So that was a little bit where Metallica were reading bad reviews, one star reviews of their 509 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,960 albums on Amazon. 510 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:56,560 So I went with kind of an obvious pick for me and you know it's funny how this show, 511 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:03,880 except for the most part, was almost like a new release episode, which I think was unintentional 512 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,480 when we got hit with this topic. 513 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,200 So I'm going with 72 seasons. 514 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:19,600 It came out April 14th, 2023, of course, Metallica formed in 1981, 11 albums, black album, Master 515 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:20,600 Puppets. 516 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,080 You guys know the drill there. 517 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,080 St. Anger. 518 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,800 St. Anger around my neck. 519 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:32,600 All right, so why don't we get into the first single, 72 seasons. 520 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:47,620 This is Lux Eterna. 521 00:29:47,620 --> 00:29:54,360 This beauty's got 12 tracks, 77 minutes. 522 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,600 I wish they'd just put out shorter albums more frequently. 523 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,880 It's always so long between records now because they're such perfectionists. 524 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:09,200 The album's title, 72 seasons, is a reference to the first 18 years of one's life, symbolizing 525 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:14,160 growth and maturity because within that 18 years, there are 72 seasons. 526 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:18,800 James Hetfield said the album's lyrics draw from his own experiences and his life's journey. 527 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:25,080 It touches on themes of darkness and light balance and the impact of past experiences. 528 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:31,040 It does maintain that powerful guitar-driven style that they're known for, but I wouldn't 529 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,880 say there are any new tricks in the bag here. 530 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:38,200 I described the album in three words with raging, resilient reflections. 531 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,440 There's still that anger. 532 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,580 There's still some of that darkness there. 533 00:30:42,580 --> 00:30:48,440 Even though these guys are in their 50s and they've had incredible success, James Hetfield 534 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,080 is still haunted by whatever went on in those 72 seasons. 535 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,280 Killed a lot of demons, I can tell. 536 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,960 You're over it already. 537 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:57,960 Wow. 538 00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:58,960 Jessica. 539 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:04,400 So, the song Lux Eterna is Latin for eternal light. 540 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:11,520 The message it carries is embrace the light, the things that make you happy, celebrate, 541 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:17,760 lose yourself in music in particular, I think is what James was doing. 542 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:23,840 The little clip we played mentioned you hear from Motor Breath, one of their early songs, 543 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,360 Enlightening to the Nations. 544 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:33,680 It's got a nwabum feel, but it's also New Wave of British Heavy Metal, for those who 545 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:42,240 think it's douchey to say nwabum, which I do and I'm kind of a douche. 546 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:47,200 They're referencing Diamond Head, which was one of their big influences. 547 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,640 I think Andy and I long ago talked about that album on the show. 548 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,600 Yeah, why don't we jump into one of the other tracks. 549 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,640 This one is called If Darkness Had a Son. 550 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:14,400 I believe that was the third single from the album. 551 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,960 Seems like James is working through some stuff from his childhood, perhaps. 552 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:22,280 I mean, based on some of the lyrics and the album art, seems like he's going back pretty 553 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,280 far. 554 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,400 Well, you know, he kind of bears the burden. 555 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:35,120 I think the reason that Metallica is still so popular and holds a place in my heart is 556 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:42,480 I feel like he kind of carries that weight for all of us, the anger and the things that 557 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:48,040 you had in your youth or the resentments that you might hold deep down inside. 558 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,360 He gets it out for us and I appreciate that. 559 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:56,560 Unfortunately, it's had its toll on him. 560 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,560 He's kind of Saint Anger. 561 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,200 He really is. 562 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:06,160 He's the patron saint of Anger. 563 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:13,440 The Three Words He Scouts album are drinking the well dry. 564 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:18,600 I mean, not that they're alcoholics, but I feel like they're really, I mean, in some 565 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:23,120 ways it's impressive how much they've fine tuned this sort of metal machine that they've 566 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,160 created over the last couple of decades. 567 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,240 Just putting out these like, not cookie cutter by any means, but they definitely follow a 568 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,560 blueprint, I guess. 569 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:36,080 Like this sort of riff heavy sound that they've created and they've done it a little bit more 570 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,320 here than they've done it in the past, a little bit longer than they have done in the past. 571 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:40,320 Yeah. 572 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:45,600 Some of the songs have more bridges and things than I think are necessary. 573 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:52,200 There's a lack of spontaneity in what they do now and that's part of metal is that spontaneity 574 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,480 and like you said, yeah, they have it down. 575 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:56,480 He sounds great too. 576 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,480 Yeah. 577 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:58,480 I think they all sound really good. 578 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:05,080 I might be with some of the most enjoyable solos from Kurt on this record, I think. 579 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,640 There's some really impressive moments and I think each member sounds good. 580 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,040 They all sound comfortable together. 581 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,840 It sounds like a very cohesive unit. 582 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:17,920 Did you notice that the bass is much like, ever since Robert Trelo joined the band, you 583 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:23,840 actually hear the bass and it has a place in their songs and it is a part of the driving 584 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,800 force behind more groovy moments. 585 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,760 And I appreciate that. 586 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:35,040 It's necessary for what they've turned their sound into this sort of groove metal new wave 587 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,800 of a British heavy metal traditional metal thing that they've created. 588 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:39,800 Yeah. 589 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,800 They really have gone away from the thrash sound. 590 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:46,480 Lux Aeternum might be the closest they get to that, but yeah, it's groovy, which I like. 591 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,840 But I think it's a pretty solid album and it really weren't any tracks that I was like, 592 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,640 oh, so let's just throw away stuff. 593 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,120 But yeah, it's pretty solid. 594 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,680 There's just so much of it. 595 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:59,480 And I kind of wonder, I find myself wondering after listening to it a few times, how many 596 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,440 more riffs can these guys possibly write as a force? 597 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,360 I'm like, they have to have drank the well dry at this point. 598 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,680 Maybe on the next one, they bring Mustaine in. 599 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:09,680 Oh, right. 600 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:10,680 That'd be fun. 601 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:11,680 That'd be cool. 602 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:12,680 Back to the OG right now. 603 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:13,680 All right. 604 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,520 So why don't we get to another track. 605 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,280 This one is, why Don? 606 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:23,040 Why couldn't you pick one that's called like black? 607 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,040 Innamorata. 608 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,040 I think that's it. 609 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,040 Yeah. 610 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,040 All right. 611 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,040 Innamorata. 612 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,040 Innamorata. 613 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:34,680 Innamorata baby. 614 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,240 Yeah. 615 00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:57,120 That's the stuff. 616 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:02,440 Those quieter moments there on this track, it kind of reminded me of Tool. 617 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:07,720 Even his voice for a minute there, it kind of reminded me of, was it Maynard? 618 00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:12,760 Innamorata is actually the longest song by the band ever recorded. 619 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,080 It's over 11 minutes long. 620 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:21,540 But I mean, unlike the album as a whole, I feel like this song, it doesn't get monotonous. 621 00:36:21,540 --> 00:36:24,520 It actually keeps my attention through the whole thing. 622 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:25,520 Yeah, agreed. 623 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:30,680 Supposedly the main riff of that track was written while James Hetfield and Lars Ulrich 624 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,920 were bored on a Zoom call. 625 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,960 We're going to have inspiration hit on when we do calls. 626 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:38,960 Eventually. 627 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,640 We are due. 628 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:41,640 I am bored. 629 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,760 So there's a greedy one. 630 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:51,640 So yeah, so basically the song just seems like a, it's like a love hate relationship 631 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,200 with misery, which is kind of interesting. 632 00:36:55,200 --> 00:37:02,720 I think sometimes negative emotions like misery or grief, sometimes you get so used to them 633 00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:04,800 that it becomes kind of like a comfort. 634 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:11,040 Yeah, so it's kind of, I don't know, it's an interesting lyric, I think. 635 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:17,000 The three words I chose to describe the album are just Metallica being Metallica. 636 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,160 Exactly. 637 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,680 So this is a Metallica record. 638 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,240 I appreciate that about it. 639 00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:30,840 I guess it's what I would hope for from a Metallica record and it's what I would expect. 640 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:35,900 There have been times in their history where they have done things that I didn't expect 641 00:37:35,900 --> 00:37:40,000 and sometimes it was great and sometimes it was terrible. 642 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:44,120 So this one at least, it's a Metallica record. 643 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,800 It's very consistent. 644 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:50,720 As Andy said, I don't think there's a bad track on it, but we already mentioned the 645 00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:56,640 length, I think if it was split into a couple albums or something, maybe it would be just 646 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,240 an easier listen. 647 00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:04,280 But I think maybe because it is such a consistent record, it gets a bit monotonous for 77 minutes 648 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:05,640 like that. 649 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:10,080 But yeah, so I mean, overall I appreciate this album. 650 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:16,600 I don't think they're just pandering to fans who want them to be Metallica. 651 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,160 I don't see that at all. 652 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,480 I don't think this would win any new fans. 653 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,200 At first I listened to it and it was a letdown. 654 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,400 The first couple of listens, it's like, eh. 655 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:32,420 But then as I've listened to it since then, I find myself feeling like it's any other 656 00:38:32,420 --> 00:38:34,240 Metallica record. 657 00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:39,280 I think the difference is because it's new, you don't have those memories from the ones 658 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,720 you listen to as a youth. 659 00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:43,160 So you don't have those connections. 660 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:44,720 You're trying to build them right now. 661 00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:50,160 I think that's part of what might be a challenge here with legendary artists is you know them. 662 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:54,160 And so when you're listening to their new stuff, it's like, I'm not feeling warm and 663 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,320 fuzzy like I do about the old ones because you don't have those connections yet. 664 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:58,320 Yeah. 665 00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:59,320 Yeah. 666 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:00,320 That's a really good point, man. 667 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,520 Expectations can be unreasonable with these legendary guys. 668 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:04,520 Yeah. 669 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:11,340 So if you enjoy Metallica and you enjoy just solid riffs and grooves and a little darkness 670 00:39:11,340 --> 00:39:17,760 with a dash of light, go check out Metallica's 72 Seasons and then go listen to the other 671 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,160 10 records too. 672 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:23,480 Even Sane Anger. 673 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:28,720 So we immersed ourselves in the most recent work of legends. 674 00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:29,720 What did we learn? 675 00:39:29,720 --> 00:39:33,120 Well, there's a couple of things I've been thinking about as we've been chatting here, 676 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,120 boys. 677 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,040 I was thinking about the consistency of these artists a little bit. 678 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,640 Like Metallica, if you look back, they put out records. 679 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,520 They put out, this is their 11th record. 680 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:47,960 They've been fairly consistent about every four or five years they put out something, 681 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,560 three or four years maybe even. 682 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,360 For like what, 30 years now they've been doing it. 683 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:52,360 So that's pretty impressive. 684 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,360 I mean, same with Sting, right? 685 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,800 I mean, he's done maybe not as prolific, but he's done things pretty consistently through 686 00:39:58,800 --> 00:39:59,800 the decades, right? 687 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:00,800 Yeah. 688 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,360 He's done, that's 15. 689 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,720 This was his 15th record since like 1985. 690 00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:05,720 Yeah. 691 00:40:05,720 --> 00:40:06,720 Solo or total? 692 00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:07,720 Solo, I believe. 693 00:40:07,720 --> 00:40:08,720 Oh, plus the police. 694 00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:09,720 Wow. 695 00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:10,720 Yeah, that's crazy. 696 00:40:10,720 --> 00:40:14,800 I think Nas was like 17, I want to say. 697 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:15,800 Well, yeah, they- 698 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:16,800 That's a lot. 699 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:17,800 Yeah. 700 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:25,960 I expect it from Sting, but Metallica had a big head start on Nas about 10 years. 701 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:26,960 Yeah. 702 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:27,960 So I mean, that's cool. 703 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,960 I mean, geez, you really can do a lot when you're as consistent for that long. 704 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:36,440 Well, I think being of legendary status gives you the opportunity to do that, right? 705 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:41,000 The bands that struggle, whether they're great or not, might get two or three records and 706 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:46,920 don't have any support and have to give up because they have been bestowed legendary 707 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:47,920 status. 708 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:53,840 Well, I think it's good when artists are consistently working because a lot of times you get these 709 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:59,240 legends that disappear for a while and all of a sudden it's a comeback album. 710 00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:02,840 I think a lot of times those are disappointing or they don't work. 711 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,880 Most often after a comeback, it's like the second or third album they do after coming 712 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:07,880 back. 713 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:08,880 Warm up when they're good. 714 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:09,880 Yeah. 715 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:10,880 Yeah. 716 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:11,880 Got comfortable. 717 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,720 They're not trying to fit into what's happening currently. 718 00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:17,120 They maybe have gone back to what's comfortable. 719 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,360 I think I learned if you're good, you're good. 720 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:26,720 And all three of these were true to themselves and I was impressed at how good they all sound 721 00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:28,780 and how vital they all sound. 722 00:41:28,780 --> 00:41:33,560 And that's one to grow on. 723 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,600 I'm your density. 724 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,680 I mean your destiny. 725 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:48,240 All right, boys and girls, it is that time once again, gather rounds, the legendary wheel 726 00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:49,240 of musical destiny. 727 00:41:49,240 --> 00:42:00,600 Let's find out what our fate has in store for us next week. 728 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,120 Your musical destiny will be taking you to the Pacific Northwest. 729 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:10,040 The city of Seattle has fostered many bands and artists and some interesting music scenes. 730 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:14,240 So get out your umbrellas, stop at a coffee shop and enjoy. 731 00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:15,640 The songs of Seattle. 732 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:16,960 There we go. 733 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:17,960 I'm listening. 734 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,960 I was going to say, is that a... 735 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:20,960 It's okay. 736 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:28,880 Quick reminder, you can go to our website, albumnerds.com to suggest your topics for 737 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,160 the Wheel of Musical Destiny. 738 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,760 Vote on any ongoing Album Nerds Hall of Fame nominations. 739 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,480 Who's your favorite artist from Seattle? 740 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:37,600 What else are you listening to? 741 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:38,600 Let us know. 742 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,880 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