1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,520 Welcome to the Album Nerds podcast with your hosts, Andy, Don, and Dude. 2 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:15,680 The boys are back in town. 3 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:16,680 That's right. 4 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:17,680 It's Album Nerds podcast time. 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:18,680 I'm Dude. 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:20,400 I got Andy and Don with me. 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,280 Gentlemen, how are you feeling this fine, fine day? 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:24,280 Yeah, I'm doing good. 9 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:25,280 I'm doing good. 10 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:30,600 I'm just sitting here wondering what we could possibly be talking about on the show today. 11 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:31,840 Don, how about you? 12 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:33,840 It's going to be crazy. 13 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:34,840 Yes. 14 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:35,840 Possibly. 15 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:36,840 A little bit. 16 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:37,840 All right. 17 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,140 So this is the Album Nerds podcast. 18 00:00:41,140 --> 00:00:42,300 We like albums. 19 00:00:42,300 --> 00:00:44,000 We like talking to each other. 20 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,080 I generally just like talking. 21 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:47,880 So today we have got a great show for you. 22 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:53,080 We're going to pick three albums and go into those, answer a question, talk about what 23 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:57,280 we learned, and then spin the wheel of musical destiny to find out what kind of albums we'll 24 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,220 be talking about next time. 25 00:00:59,220 --> 00:01:02,280 This time it's all about those one hit wonders. 26 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:03,280 One hit wonders. 27 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,280 It's a very common tale. 28 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,040 That's what I'm talking about. 29 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,680 So it was very important that we define this one. 30 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,960 So we turned to Wikipedia who defined it. 31 00:01:14,960 --> 00:01:21,560 It's a one hit wonder is any entity that achieves mainstream popularity, often for only one piece 32 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:26,940 or work, and becomes known among the general public solely for that momentary success. 33 00:01:26,940 --> 00:01:31,160 The term is most commonly used in regard to music performers with only one hit single 34 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,440 that overshadows their other work. 35 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:39,200 And for the purpose of this exercise, we just used the US Billboard Hot 100 charts. 36 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,760 So each of us chose an album from a one hit wonder. 37 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,040 Yeah, one hit wonders. 38 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:45,040 Lots of fun. 39 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,880 A little harder than I thought because there's stuff you think is, but it isn't because maybe 40 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,320 they had another minor hit or you just didn't know they had another hit. 41 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,320 So we did a lot of digging, all of us. 42 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,120 I listened to Space Hog. 43 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,040 Oh, was it an alien? 44 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:00,520 What was that song? 45 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:01,520 Meantime? 46 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:02,520 Oh my gosh. 47 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:03,520 In the meantime. 48 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:04,520 I actually saw them. 49 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,960 They were on this brotherly love tour in the early 2000s. 50 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:10,440 This is the weirdest bill ever. 51 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,120 The Black Crows, Oasis, and Space Hog. 52 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,560 Space Hog were the openers because they all had brothers in their bands. 53 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:17,560 Oh wow. 54 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,920 That's a stretch. 55 00:02:20,920 --> 00:02:24,040 Bobby McFerrin, Simple Pleasures, Don't Worry Be Happy. 56 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,720 I never listened to the whole album. 57 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:26,720 It's weird. 58 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,400 I mean, Bobby McFerrin is a respected jazz guy. 59 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:31,400 Go check it out. 60 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,840 It's got some weird stuff on it and a lot of covers. 61 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:38,760 The Dream Academy, they're self-titled, Life in a Northern Town, Simple Minds, a couple 62 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:44,160 of their albums, but Once Upon a Time with Don't You Forget About Me, surprisingly rocking. 63 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:48,000 Little Tuesday, Voices Carry, that's Amy Mann. 64 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,200 I found out that she had briefly been in the band ministry. 65 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,200 Lots of interesting stuff. 66 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:54,200 What? 67 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:55,760 Yeah, I know, I know. 68 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:56,760 Very briefly. 69 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,200 She had a relationship with that lead singer dude. 70 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,760 The one I was closest on was Nazareth, Hair of the Dog. 71 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:03,760 They're known for Love Hurts. 72 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:04,760 There we go. 73 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:05,760 Oh boy. 74 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,760 Sorry I didn't pick that one. 75 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,440 But yeah, so many others. 76 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,320 Cod's Goo Goo, John Waits, The Breeders. 77 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:17,400 I would have done Blind Melon or The Darkness had I not already picked albums by those bands 78 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:18,400 on previous episodes. 79 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:19,400 How did you guys do? 80 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,080 Well, I didn't have quite as big of a list as you this time, but- 81 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:24,080 That's only half. 82 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:25,080 I didn't even get into everything. 83 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,080 Wow man. 84 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,080 All right, I'll mention a couple. 85 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,680 Dr. John, In the Right Place, At the Wrong Time. 86 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,080 Must be the wrong time. 87 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,640 Very enjoyable record from the early 70s. 88 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,880 Ram Jam and their self-titled album, the track Black Betty. 89 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:43,880 That was on my list too. 90 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,800 I think I got enough of your listening list. 91 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:47,800 Yeah, pretty fun. 92 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,800 And one other one, Anita Ward. 93 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,760 I remember the track Ring My Bell from the late 70s. 94 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,760 Ring my bell. 95 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,640 She had a pretty good record that was on actually. 96 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:05,800 She's had a couple other minor hits or not big enough hits, but successful songs on that 97 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:06,800 record for her. 98 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,440 Well, I went back into my formative years. 99 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,900 I remember listening a lot to an album by Modern English called After the Snow, which 100 00:04:13,900 --> 00:04:18,480 features the song I Melt With You, which is kind of weird because it actually wasn't a 101 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:19,800 hit at the time. 102 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:25,360 I think it came out in 84 or 85 and then it didn't actually chart, at least in the United 103 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,840 States until the 90s when it started showing up on like I Love the 80s compilations and 104 00:04:29,840 --> 00:04:30,840 stuff like that. 105 00:04:30,840 --> 00:04:35,760 But that's actually kind of like a solid sort of new wavy post-punk record. 106 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:41,000 We had done in the past that record from The Laws, which features There She Goes. 107 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,160 That would have been a really good pick for this theme. 108 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,880 And I was an early adopter of The Proclaimers. 109 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,400 Do you remember The Proclaimers, the 500 miles? 110 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,200 You were on that before Benny and June? 111 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,560 They were on the original Letterman show. 112 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,240 And I'm like, whoa, here's these weird Scottish dudes with glasses. 113 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,560 And I really liked the song. 114 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:06,040 And so yeah, I had that record, Sunshine on Leith, which is, it's solid. 115 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:07,040 It's a good record. 116 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:08,040 All right. 117 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:17,240 Let's move on to the songs that we picked or the albums that we picked. 118 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,240 You choo-choo-choose me? 119 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:30,440 Our next guests are a wonderful twosome here to perform a fantastic song from their day 120 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,480 of debut CD, St. Elsewhere. 121 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,480 Please welcome Niles Barkley. 122 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaking of David Letterman, a little clip from his show introducing my selection here. 123 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:46,000 We are talking about the duo Niles Barkley and the record St. Elsewhere came out in April 124 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,560 of 2006. 125 00:05:47,560 --> 00:06:02,200 The big single is entitled Crazy. 126 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,080 Like those strings kind of sounds like Rocky or something. 127 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:10,280 Yeah, I've never considered that sounding like Rocky before, but yeah, I suppose. 128 00:06:10,280 --> 00:06:11,280 Okay. 129 00:06:11,280 --> 00:06:13,720 So Crazy picked up number two on the Billboard Hot 100. 130 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:21,840 It was also a big hit in the UK, becoming the first UK single to top the charts on downloads 131 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:22,840 alone. 132 00:06:22,840 --> 00:06:27,400 So this came out in 2006, just when that kind of like internet sales of music was really 133 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:28,960 becoming a thing. 134 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,200 And this album took advantage of that. 135 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:36,680 Probably a lot of iTunes purchases for 99 cents. 136 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,040 Word up, definitely. 137 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:45,880 So Niles Barkley is a duo comprised of CeeLo Green, who I think most notably before this 138 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:52,560 was a member of the Goodie Mob, which is like a hip hop collective from Atlanta, and producer 139 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,080 Danger Mouse, who at this time was a fairly unknown commodity. 140 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:01,360 He had done this cool mixtape called The Gray Album, which is like a mashup of Jay-Z and 141 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:02,360 The Beatles. 142 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:07,120 It was pretty popular on the internet, but didn't have much credibility yet in the music 143 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:08,120 industry. 144 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:13,960 So my three words to describe this record are crazy cartoon creation, going back to 145 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:14,960 the alliteration. 146 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:15,960 That's been a while. 147 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:16,960 Yeah. 148 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:21,080 I mean, this record, I really enjoyed it when it came out. 149 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:25,320 It was kind of fun going back to it after all these years. 150 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:30,240 It's like psychedelic funk soul pop, I guess I would say. 151 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,880 It's very high energy, kind of like a spastic sound. 152 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:34,880 Oh. 153 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:35,880 Just a colon. 154 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:36,880 Yeah, colon. 155 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:41,880 That's what I was feeling throughout the album. 156 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:49,400 Lyrically, this record feels very much like a therapy session, I would say. 157 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:55,600 Especially, CeeLo does all the writing and the singing, and he's working through some 158 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,080 demons on this record, I would say. 159 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:03,120 A lot of the tracks deal with kind of like this eccentric star persona that I imagine 160 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,040 is at least a portion of his personality. 161 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:07,360 Let's put another cut from the record. 162 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:13,640 This is the closer of last time. 163 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,640 Yeah. 164 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:28,680 So that one felt like a more sort of traditional kind of love seduction number done in a dancey 165 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:29,680 way. 166 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:34,880 The three words I chose to describe the album are psychedelic dance party. 167 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,360 I think that's mostly what it is. 168 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:43,080 Most of the tracks are danceable, and it's just the sonic experience is very psychedelic, 169 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,080 right? 170 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,400 There's a lot of little elements here and there thrown in, little subtle things that 171 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:51,980 you discover when you're listening on headphones, and that's what the psychedelic experience 172 00:08:51,980 --> 00:08:53,480 is all about. 173 00:08:53,480 --> 00:09:00,200 Yeah, I think CeeLo Green's vocals are just, I think, perfect for this experience. 174 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:04,120 I can't really imagine it with another vocalist. 175 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:11,000 It just seems to kind of match this kind of crazy or sort of wacky experience. 176 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:18,520 It is a unique voice because he certainly has vocal talent, and he has range. 177 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:23,480 He can do a lot of things with his voice, but it also just has this gruff, a unique 178 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,640 style. 179 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,080 To me, there was no variation. 180 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:33,160 It was just the same voice in every song without, I don't know. 181 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:37,160 The delivery in Crazy is fine, but then when it's the same exact delivery in every single 182 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:41,200 song, I just didn't think it was captivating in any way. 183 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:46,640 I would have liked to have heard some different voices, some pushing it at times or going 184 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,480 lower at times, but it was just the same drone for me. 185 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:51,480 I don't know about him. 186 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,040 I mean, I feel like he really explores a lot. 187 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:54,640 He does these little voices. 188 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,080 He has conversations with himself. 189 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,040 He has a pretty big range. 190 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:03,920 He does rapping as well as talk singing. 191 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,160 I think he's a fairly adept singer. 192 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:11,480 Maybe he's not a great singer, but he does a lot with his voice, I feel like. 193 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,360 I think my problem is comparing. 194 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:19,480 This to me is just lazy outcast. 195 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,320 It just has no personality for me. 196 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:22,320 I don't know. 197 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:28,040 I was very surprised that I wasn't into it, and I listened to it, I don't know, five times, 198 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:29,960 but I just couldn't catch a wave. 199 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:31,560 Couldn't catch a wave. 200 00:10:31,560 --> 00:10:34,280 You guys keep talking and convince me. 201 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,800 Well, you did mention the outcast comparison. 202 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,600 That's where I went as well. 203 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,800 I still haven't, other than the record that we did, I still haven't really explored outcast 204 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,640 much, but this one seemed a bit more accessible to me. 205 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:55,040 Maybe it's just because it's maybe less hip hop-y than outcast. 206 00:10:55,040 --> 00:11:02,760 The production of it still feels very much like a hip hop record with the low end and 207 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:03,760 all that. 208 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:08,040 This record to me very much feels like a product of the internet age. 209 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:13,360 It feels like a very digitally composed record, and we're exploring all these new things that 210 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,280 are possible at this time. 211 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,240 It feels to me very inorganic. 212 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,880 Yeah, it's true, yes. 213 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:21,360 Maybe that's part of the issue. 214 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,640 Maybe I'm not connecting to it because it doesn't feel analog at all. 215 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,160 Plus, I had aged out when this was popular. 216 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:28,160 I was not... 217 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:33,080 I mean, I heard the song, obviously, but I was not really seeking that at that point. 218 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,080 The style of music. 219 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,080 Yeah. 220 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,280 All right, we're going to play a little chart from the record. 221 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,080 This is kind of in the middle of the record. 222 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,080 It's called Just A Thought. 223 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:58,600 Yeah, I mean, I did connect with this because that's how I felt when I was listening to 224 00:11:58,600 --> 00:11:59,600 the album. 225 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:00,600 Oh, jeez. 226 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:07,160 Surprised you didn't connect with Who Cares a few tracks later. 227 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,160 That was possible. 228 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,120 Yeah, I think you touched on it, Andy. 229 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:19,120 The internet age, the length of albums, the length of songs, it was just a little much 230 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:20,720 for me at times. 231 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,560 I love some of the Danger Mouse production. 232 00:12:22,560 --> 00:12:24,800 I love the sounds underneath. 233 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:31,140 I was feeling more distracted by the vocals than connecting to them. 234 00:12:31,140 --> 00:12:36,000 But that song explores themes of introspection, self-reflection, mental struggles. 235 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,560 I think that's kind of the thing throughout this record. 236 00:12:39,560 --> 00:12:41,560 You didn't find that effective? 237 00:12:41,560 --> 00:12:44,840 No, I didn't feel like sharing. 238 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:49,400 It felt more like just finding a thread to fit the songs. 239 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,280 I don't know. 240 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:56,840 It didn't feel like C-Low was really opening up to me, which is what I need. 241 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:02,440 Yeah, no, I think they were trying to sell this troubled rock star persona. 242 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:07,040 I don't necessarily know if it was coming from C-Low, but that's what they wanted to 243 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,440 project sort of. 244 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:14,840 Maybe that was the problem, wanting to project, wanting to be instead of just being. 245 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:22,160 The three words I used to describe this album were not crazy enough. 246 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,800 It wasn't dangerous in any way. 247 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,480 Like I said, the production and the music is really cool. 248 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:33,680 I just feel like more could have been done vocally with more voices, with more weird 249 00:13:33,680 --> 00:13:40,440 sound effects and stuff that would have told the tale of craziness and introspection and 250 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:41,440 questioning yourself. 251 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,160 But it could have been worse too. 252 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,440 I've heard worse. 253 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,400 Fair enough, fair enough. 254 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,720 Yeah, so Norris Berkley would go on to release one more record. 255 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,960 They're supposedly working on their third, but they've been saying that for about five 256 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:57,960 years now. 257 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:59,760 We'll see if that ever comes to light. 258 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,560 But yeah, once again, the record is Saint Elsewhere, Norris Berkley. 259 00:14:03,560 --> 00:14:06,880 If you haven't heard the full thing, I think that's interesting. 260 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,040 Listen, as long as you're not the dude. 261 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:10,040 I liked it. 262 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:15,640 It rocks, it rocks, it rocks for a meal with lots and lots. 263 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:16,640 That's Charles Berkley. 264 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:21,640 And I would take that over Norris Berkley. 265 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:22,640 It's terrible. 266 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:23,640 Terrible. 267 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:29,680 I'm good enough, I'm smart enough and doggone it, people like me. 268 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:34,360 If you're enjoying the show and we hope you are, do us a solid and leave a review on Apple 269 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,920 podcasts or your favorite podcast app. 270 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,200 Maybe we made you laugh or you discovered an album you enjoy. 271 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:44,360 Leaving a review keeps the show going and helps other music fans find us. 272 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:51,000 Yes, I love technology, but not as much as you, you say. 273 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,760 But I still love technology. 274 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:59,640 The best part is Andy thought that was the artist that got the attention today. 275 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:04,480 Yes, so my pick for a one hit wonder is Gary Newman. 276 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:09,320 The album is called The Pleasure Principle, released in September 1979. 277 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,520 And the big hit here in the United States was a song called Cars. 278 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:32,560 So this song was actually inspired by an incident when Newman was driving. 279 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,920 Apparently he had annoyed the people in the car in front of him. 280 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,720 He was probably singing that really loud. 281 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:47,040 And when they got to a traffic light, I guess these people got out of the car and were basically 282 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,920 coming to get him. 283 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,000 And so he managed to escape in his car. 284 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,800 And so the song is basically about the idea that in this modern world, you can feel kind 285 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:01,280 of safe and protected in your automobile. 286 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:05,640 Also interestingly, this song was written on a bass guitar, the only song that Newman 287 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,640 has ever composed on a bass guitar. 288 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,920 He writes on a piano. 289 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:17,560 So those, he came up with that and then I guess the song came easy afterwards. 290 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:24,080 So The Pleasure Principle is, well, it's the first album under the name Gary Newman as 291 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:25,120 a solo album. 292 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:30,040 But actually he had done two albums under the name Tubeway Army, which were basically 293 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:31,820 also solo albums. 294 00:16:31,820 --> 00:16:36,660 But the record label had fought him on that and wanted to do Tubeway Army because they 295 00:16:36,660 --> 00:16:40,400 had some, I guess, legacy in punk rock. 296 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:45,720 They had kind of started out as a sort of a melodic punk rock group. 297 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:50,440 Gary Newman was born Gary James Webb in London in 1958. 298 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:56,240 He's an English musician who faced intense hostility from critics and fellow musicians 299 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:01,240 early in his career, but has since come to be regarded as a kind of an electronic music 300 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:02,800 pioneer. 301 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:08,080 So the three words I chose to describe the album are machines have souls. 302 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:15,080 So I think stereotypically with synth pop, it can feel sort of cold and lifeless. 303 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,600 Plus it's particularly early synth pop. 304 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:22,860 A lot of it is about technology and robots and science fiction and stuff like that. 305 00:17:22,860 --> 00:17:27,040 But I think what's cool about this album is it actually does have live drumming. 306 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:32,680 A guy named Cedric Sharply, I think does a really good job on the album. 307 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:37,560 And also most of the bass guitar is also live and traditional. 308 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:44,020 And so I think that sort of sustains some life and pulse throughout the album. 309 00:17:44,020 --> 00:17:45,680 Let's hear a little more. 310 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,920 Here's one called Me. 311 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,920 It's actually abbreviated M-E, which is mechanical engineering. 312 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,920 Beep bop boop bop beep bop beep bop. 313 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:55,920 I'm a computer. 314 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:56,920 Love that tune. 315 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:57,920 I love that song. 316 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:05,880 This is why we don't have more dance music on the show. 317 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:20,920 Don, I was going to ask you if the drums were real because I think that makes a huge difference. 318 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:25,880 I'm not a big electronic music guy, but one of the things I don't think offends me the 319 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:32,120 most about it is the fake drums, the drum machine stuff or the recycled beat stuff. 320 00:18:32,120 --> 00:18:34,140 So I did connect with this. 321 00:18:34,140 --> 00:18:36,640 That particular song, I think I had heard before. 322 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,000 I'd never listened to this whole album. 323 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:44,440 I was only aware of cars and it was one of those kind of, yeah, early days of MTV sort 324 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:45,440 of things. 325 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,300 I didn't think much about it. 326 00:18:47,300 --> 00:18:53,360 So the song Me, the lyrics depict a person with mechanical eyes experiencing a sense 327 00:18:53,360 --> 00:18:58,840 of detachment and longing for human connection, which kind of goes into what those stereotypes 328 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:04,000 about electronic music, especially in the early days, they did focus more on the mechanical 329 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,740 side of things. 330 00:19:05,740 --> 00:19:11,200 His vocals are cold and detached, kind of contrasting the human and mechanical elements. 331 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:18,040 But it's a great song and I think this dystopian vision of a mechanized future was with the 332 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:22,680 emotional consequences that come was really what we thought about in the 80s about the 333 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,360 future and technology. 334 00:19:24,360 --> 00:19:29,200 We couldn't have foreseen that instead it's become people just shedding on each other 335 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:34,040 with comments instead of it being a cold bleak thing. 336 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:39,040 Instead it's this very volatile landscape. 337 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:43,720 It's just interesting how different it turned out, at least so far until the machines take 338 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:44,720 over. 339 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:49,920 The three words I used to describe this album were rockin' computer nerd. 340 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:56,000 It really was the analog bits of it and the bass and elements that made this sound really 341 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,000 cool. 342 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,320 I mean, I really dug into this album. 343 00:19:58,320 --> 00:19:59,960 I'm going to keep listening to it. 344 00:19:59,960 --> 00:20:02,600 I'm going to see if I can find a copy on vinyl. 345 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:08,480 I see why he is considered an architect of synth pop and electronic derived music. 346 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,840 Shockingly interesting to me and maybe it'll... 347 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:12,840 I'm shocked. 348 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:19,160 ...open my mechanical eyes a little bit to especially this era of synthesized music. 349 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:25,160 Yeah, one thing Newman was big on and I guess what appeals to me is just those sustained 350 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:26,800 synth notes. 351 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:27,800 He doesn't... 352 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:28,800 Yeah. 353 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,960 He's not like Rush going, do-do-do-do-do-do, do-do-do-do. 354 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,000 It's just like, do-do-do-do. 355 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:39,480 But just that eerie, dramatic sound that he gets out of the synths, which I like. 356 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,280 It's almost like a drone style at times. 357 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,280 It was like, do-do-do-do. 358 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:45,280 Yeah. 359 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:50,320 I mean, not completely dissimilar to Flock of Seagulls. 360 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:54,680 They had the same sustained synth notes. 361 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,360 They were on the One Hit Wonder list as well. 362 00:20:57,360 --> 00:20:59,400 Well, let's hear another track. 363 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,400 This is Observer. 364 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,400 Yeah. 365 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:18,600 So my three words to describe this record are Henry Ford would be proud. 366 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:23,200 To me, this feels a little bit like a bit of a production line going out on this record 367 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,200 here. 368 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:25,760 Surprisingly, because I'm definitely a fan of Gary Newman. 369 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,760 I've definitely enjoyed a lot of his records over the years. 370 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:33,280 And this one, for whatever reason, didn't really resonate with me as much as I thought 371 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:34,280 it would. 372 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,640 I've played some of the singles, like the Cars track I enjoy quite a bit. 373 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:42,480 But I really, I almost thought I was Cars for starting up three or four times listening 374 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,440 through the record before you actually get to that point. 375 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:51,080 There's so many tracks that are in that same sonic palette, I guess I would say. 376 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,800 Similar sounding instruments and either almost similar compositions. 377 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,200 And this is something that's not uncommon in electronic music at all. 378 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,120 I think repetition is a big part of what's going on. 379 00:22:00,120 --> 00:22:05,080 But I think what I liked most about it coming back to it this time was his lyrics. 380 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:10,640 Man, he really creates this dystopian world almost that he's living in. 381 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:17,120 And especially that track Observer where he's talking about watching people and judging 382 00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:18,120 them from afar. 383 00:22:18,120 --> 00:22:19,560 I found that pretty compelling. 384 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,200 I think he's pretty consistent throughout the record with that perspective. 385 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:28,480 As well as albums, I think really does feel like the album artwork where he is an outsider 386 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:34,080 looking in on this little creation he's made, which I really liked that whole idea. 387 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,600 And I think that I 100% bought in on. 388 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,760 I just felt like sonically a lot of the ideas were kind of just being moved around from 389 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:45,160 track to track, which wasn't super interesting after 45 minutes. 390 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,200 Musically, that did sound a lot like Cars in parts. 391 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,160 So I agree with you there, Andy. 392 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:56,960 I was going to interject with the differences, the lyrics, and you said it very well. 393 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,840 That is usually not important in electronic music. 394 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,120 It's just one line repeated over and over again. 395 00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:07,400 And the lyrics here are very, well, let's say Don-ish. 396 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:15,640 This is English sort of mopey, I'm an outsider kind of music, but just with a different skin. 397 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,600 So Don, were you into this? 398 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,880 No, not really. 399 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:26,200 I knew of Gary Newman just from MTV and VH1 and stuff like that. 400 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:31,200 But yeah, when I was into electronic stuff, I was even into like OMD, who kind of came 401 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,000 out around the same time. 402 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:38,120 But yeah, Gary Newman wasn't really on my radar until maybe like the last 10 years. 403 00:23:38,120 --> 00:23:42,000 I mean, I feel bad labeling him as a one hit wonder. 404 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,360 Technically, he's not in the UK. 405 00:23:44,360 --> 00:23:48,960 The album before this one actually broke through and hit number one in England. 406 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:53,560 And there's a song called Our Friends Electric, which hit number one. 407 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,320 But he's had a long career. 408 00:23:55,320 --> 00:24:00,440 And every album kind of built from the last, he didn't just keep doing the same thing over 409 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:01,440 and over. 410 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,080 And now if you hear him, he's much heavier. 411 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,360 It's an industrial sound. 412 00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:09,320 But it's still, it's a lot of that dystopian kind of stuff. 413 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:13,240 So I definitely recommend his most recent albums if you want to check him out. 414 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:18,160 OK, so that was Gary Newman with The Pleasure Principle. 415 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,160 The pleasure principle. 416 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,400 That was unscripted. 417 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,400 Yeah. 418 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,160 Excuse me. 419 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:34,720 I'd like to ask you a few questions. 420 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,900 It's that time on the show when we ask ourselves a question. 421 00:24:38,900 --> 00:24:42,320 So this week, what's your one hit wonder? 422 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:48,120 I guess we mean like what's your what's a success that you had and maybe didn't replicate? 423 00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:51,440 My one shining moment of glory. 424 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,920 This is a very personal question. 425 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,360 For me, it came at age six. 426 00:24:56,360 --> 00:24:59,920 That was my peak in life. 427 00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:01,760 I went to the circus with my family. 428 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,760 I entered a coloring contest. 429 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,600 I had a color, a large picture of the circus. 430 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,400 It was very accurate with my coloring because they had all the lines. 431 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:11,720 I submitted it. 432 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:12,720 I won. 433 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:13,720 They called me up on stage. 434 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:18,080 I got to show my drawing to the entire audience, which was like probably the biggest advice 435 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,560 I'd ever given to you in my life at that time. 436 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:20,920 So it felt like. 437 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,880 Is that what inspired you to become a graphic designer? 438 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,720 And now I'm a famous colorer. 439 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,920 Do you still have that picture? 440 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:30,920 I wish I did. 441 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:31,920 I can picture it. 442 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,920 I'd love to post it on the socials. 443 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,120 I'll try to recreate it. 444 00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:42,520 See, he easily could have just done what no one's going to know. 445 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,000 Just wrinkle up the coloring book paper a little bit. 446 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:51,720 Yeah, but I know just thinking back, like, so that I was the winner of all these, but 447 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,600 I didn't really, I never got any prize. 448 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:54,600 I just got the recognition. 449 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,080 It was kind of a rip off. 450 00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:00,760 You sure your parents didn't take it? 451 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,960 Like stage parents? 452 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,960 So Andy's story kind of made me think about more childhood victories. 453 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:18,120 And I, one summer I entered into a big wheel race contest at the local grocery store. 454 00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:19,120 Hinky dinky. 455 00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:20,120 Hinky dinky. 456 00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:21,120 And, uh, hinky dinky. 457 00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:25,200 I had a lot of fun with that name as a kid. 458 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,680 Hinky stinky, stinky dinky, you know. 459 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,920 That's right. 460 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:38,080 Very, that dinky is super ripe. 461 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,960 So the, the big wheel I had was a Spiderman machine. 462 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:47,600 It had two big back wheels and you had these sticks on the side to move the back wheels 463 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,160 instead of turning the front wheel. 464 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,160 Oh my gosh. 465 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,160 That's awesome. 466 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:55,040 You could spin out really, you know, you could do skids and stuff. 467 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:59,280 So they had this course set up in the parking lot at hinky dinky. 468 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:06,680 And we, we did the race and I was against a bunch of punks on normal big wheels and 469 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:07,680 smoked them. 470 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:08,680 Wow. 471 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:09,680 Cause I could, I could make those turns. 472 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,600 I don't remember what I won, but it was a Saturday morning. 473 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,800 I just remember thinking it was really awesome. 474 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:21,040 Plus getting to take my big wheel somewhere and ride it unusual place. 475 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,920 And, um, but yeah, it was, uh, that was a good day. 476 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:29,480 That's probably the only time I've won a sporting event. 477 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,600 That's cool. 478 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:37,000 Well, apparently, uh, you know, my biggest successes were in childhood as well. 479 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:42,840 Uh, although this one I believe was, was ninth grade might take a second to explain in gym 480 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:43,840 class. 481 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:48,560 It was like when we were doing basketball and I got, you know, I had to come up and 482 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,560 help the coach demonstrate, you know, some dribble move or something. 483 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:58,400 Uh, and he called up a, another kid who was this, um, this kid that just did not like 484 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,680 me, kind of like a little guy, but like a tough little guy. 485 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,720 And for some reason he just, you know, hated me. 486 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:09,600 It wasn't a bully because he was tiny, you know, um, like half the size of me, but he 487 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,320 was still just an asshole to me all the time. 488 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,600 He was jealous of you. 489 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:15,600 Maybe, maybe. 490 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:20,120 Uh, but anyway, so we were like demonstrating this move and then at some point he's got 491 00:28:20,120 --> 00:28:25,960 to kind of pass me the ball and he kind of, when he did it, he just like launched it at 492 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:26,960 me. 493 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:31,440 Like I think expecting me to be like unprepared for it to hit me in the face. 494 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,120 Um, and I just nonchalantly caught it. 495 00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:36,160 Just nice and easily. 496 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,160 And I knew that that crushed him. 497 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,160 Yeah. 498 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:43,400 So that's, you know, that's of all the things I've accomplished in my life. 499 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,520 That's, that's my favorite. 500 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,760 What was, what was, what was that bitch's name? 501 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:49,760 Uh, Jeff. 502 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,160 Eat it, Jeff. 503 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,280 Look, look who's got a podcast. 504 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,280 All right. 505 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,400 Well what was your one hit wonder? 506 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:00,400 Let us know. 507 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:06,320 We have Facebook, Instagram threads, uh, and of course, uh, discord album nerds.com slash 508 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:07,320 discord. 509 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:08,320 I said, 510 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:20,760 So I went with one hit wonder group thin Lizzie best known for the boys are back in town, 511 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:27,040 which I'm sure y'all have heard at sporting events at biker bars and pretty much anywhere 512 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,040 dudes are flexing. 513 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:41,360 So yeah, uh, thin Lizzie, the album is jailbreak from 1976, the bicentennial here in the U.S. 514 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,480 of a, but these fellows are from Ireland. 515 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:48,480 You wouldn't know it, but why don't we, uh, jump in and listen to my favorite song on 516 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:49,480 the album. 517 00:29:49,480 --> 00:30:04,800 Cowboy song. 518 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:05,800 All right. 519 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:12,440 So, uh, band from Ireland, super Irish dudes, a lot of Irish folk in their, in their sound 520 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,080 did a song about being a cowboy. 521 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,800 They did a pretty good job too. 522 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:21,600 I think, you know, cowboy movies, Western films from the U S were very popular. 523 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,280 So people knew how to paint the picture. 524 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,600 Love the guitar riffs on that song. 525 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,200 Love Phil's Phil line it. 526 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,320 I love his voice and I love that delivery. 527 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,080 It's just, it's got swagger in it. 528 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:37,600 It sounds like a guy who's bucking Broncos. 529 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:45,840 So the album jailbreak was thin Lizzie's sixth album. 530 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:51,540 That's a long way to go to get, uh, your one hit wonder from, uh, boys are back in town. 531 00:30:51,540 --> 00:30:55,680 So their earlier albums were more steeped in Irish tradition. 532 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,920 Uh, those elements were there. 533 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,960 I think this one was their last chance. 534 00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:01,820 The record label is going to drop them. 535 00:31:01,820 --> 00:31:08,000 So they, they, uh, Phil kind of took over songwriting duties and they made an effort 536 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:12,640 to be more accessible to us audiences and such. 537 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:18,320 The three words I used to describe this album were a groundwork for greatness. 538 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,480 So as I said, unusual for a one hit wonder to take six albums to get there, but they 539 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:23,480 built their sound. 540 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:24,760 They were a real band. 541 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,680 Also unusual for one hit wonder to lay the groundwork and have influence on a burgeoning 542 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:29,680 music scene. 543 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:35,240 So the stuff they were doing really influenced and shaped hard rock, the dueling guitars, 544 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,180 how that made its way into metal. 545 00:31:37,180 --> 00:31:40,640 But I first discovered them really because I mean, I knew the boys were back in town, 546 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:45,120 but, uh, anthrax on the sound of white noise album, I think it was a bonus track. 547 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:50,040 They did a version of the cowboy song and I fell in love with the song and it led me 548 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,120 to the thin Lizzie. 549 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,120 It's cool. 550 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,120 All right. 551 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:59,240 So why don't we get into a song that's a little bit more Irish in its subject matter, but 552 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,240 still rocks pretty hard. 553 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,240 This is how it works. 554 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:16,720 My three words describe this record are thin, not scrawny. 555 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,200 I feel like this was a pretty meaty record. 556 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:24,600 There's a lot going on here outside of just kind of the rough and rowdy persona this band 557 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:25,600 had. 558 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:31,000 Yeah, I love the dual dueling guitar sounds, I guess, or the dual guitar sound that track 559 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,280 there, the closer emerald, I thought was awesome. 560 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,360 I wish that track was like five minutes longer and maybe the record was like another five 561 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,360 minutes longer too. 562 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,360 Or another 10 minutes longer. 563 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,360 You don't have to say that very often. 564 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:45,840 Yeah, I think it was just getting good as it, as it was coming to a close. 565 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:46,840 Yeah. 566 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:47,840 Sounds like warriors and jailbreak. 567 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,400 I thought were really good. 568 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,720 And the single is still, the single is pretty fun. 569 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:53,720 You know? 570 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:54,720 Yeah. 571 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:55,720 I think it's called The Second Town. 572 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,880 I didn't used to, I think I kind of was eye-rolly at it. 573 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:02,960 Because I think mostly because I saw Uncle Jesse on Full House playing that song and 574 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,080 I was just like, good God. 575 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,280 So that kind of ruined it for me for a while. 576 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:08,280 But yeah, it's a good song. 577 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:09,280 It's cool tune. 578 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,600 And I guess originally it was going to be about guys coming back from Vietnam, but the 579 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,800 record label wanted to dial that back. 580 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:21,520 So it just became about boys, you know, like a reunion of high school friends or whatever. 581 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,360 It's a very universal message, but yeah, I was impressed. 582 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,760 Like there's a lot of intricacies that happened throughout, especially with the guitars that 583 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:30,760 I thought were pretty interesting. 584 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,960 The only thing I didn't really care for was it was a track Romeo. 585 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:34,960 I like that song. 586 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,960 It was quite too poppy for me. 587 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:39,960 It really stuck out. 588 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,680 It was not really fitting with the rest. 589 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:47,080 I liked the sitting all on his O'Neal, Romeo, poor Romeo sitting out on his O'Neal. 590 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,080 It sounded- 591 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,440 You liked that lyric? 592 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:56,960 I thought it sounded kind of Irishy, you know, like, oh boy, oh, you know, it just had this, 593 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:57,960 I don't know. 594 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:58,960 I thought it was cool. 595 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:04,520 I didn't make the Irish, I didn't know the Irish connection, but still, O'Neal, come 596 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:05,520 on. 597 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:06,520 It's a nursery rhyme. 598 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:12,000 Yeah, there were moments where I definitely heard other bands like the Rolling Stones 599 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,000 at times. 600 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,320 They kind of have some of that, that stompy swagger. 601 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:21,000 There were a couple of riffs that I thought sounded very kiss-ish at times. 602 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,000 Totally agree. 603 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,000 Totally agree. 604 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,720 It's like kiss with good lyrics. 605 00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:28,680 Yes, better lyrics, yeah. 606 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:29,680 Yeah. 607 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,160 You know, I'll just throw in, we've talked about the dual guitars. 608 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:38,760 The story I heard was that they had a lot of turnover in the band over the years. 609 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,680 They formed in like 69. 610 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:45,640 Phil was sick of that, so he hired two guitar players, so if one left, they'd still have 611 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:46,880 someone that knew all the stuff. 612 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:47,880 I'd stick a backup. 613 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:52,400 So then they had two guitarists and then they started doing the dual stuff. 614 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:53,400 That's the story. 615 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,120 Might be true, may not be true. 616 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,520 All right, why don't we listen to another track? 617 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:13,360 This one is Warriors. 618 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,280 So Warriors was written by Lyna and Gorham. 619 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:24,320 The Warriors refer to heavy drug takers, which I thought was an interesting way of looking 620 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,320 at it. 621 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:31,360 I think Jimi Hendrix, he knows what he's getting into and just goes for it, which is, yeah. 622 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,080 Not how you typically hear drugs talked about. 623 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:42,100 Well, especially since he then had his own heroin struggles and hepatitis and illnesses 624 00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:45,680 and died at an early age in 1986 or so. 625 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,680 So yeah, maybe should have looked at it a little differently, Phil. 626 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:50,680 Sorry. 627 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,600 Yeah, it didn't do well for Jimi Hendrix either. 628 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:59,400 So the words I chose for the album are give it a second, as in actually give it a second 629 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:00,400 listen. 630 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:05,240 So the first time listening through, it just kind of sounded like sort of typical rock 631 00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:07,200 and roll, good or whatever. 632 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,760 And then, yeah, once I listened to it a second time, I don't know, all of a sudden I just 633 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,600 discovered the magic. 634 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:20,360 And I don't really, I have a hard time, I think, talking about this record because I'm 635 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,060 not sure what makes it good. 636 00:36:23,060 --> 00:36:28,880 It's just like every song just hits the right chords and notes and it's just a good sounding 637 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,200 record and I really kind of fell in love with it. 638 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:36,960 And I guess it lives kind of somewhere in between that glam and metal. 639 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:42,920 It reminded me, I guess also because of the two lead guitars of Judas Priest, just a little 640 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:43,920 bit lighter. 641 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:50,040 And I imagine Thin Lizzy influenced Judas Priest a little bit or all those English metal 642 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,040 bands. 643 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,200 So I'm really surprised. 644 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,200 Good album. 645 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,320 Surprised that you liked it. 646 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,200 And surprised that I liked it so much. 647 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,200 Yeah. 648 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,200 Yeah. 649 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:10,200 I listened to their discography and this one is touted as their best and I think it is. 650 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,440 I'm tempted here, gentlemen, because I do think this was influential. 651 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:21,360 I do think this is, especially being a representation or representative of Irish rock and roll, 652 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:26,480 I think I'm going to have to nominate it and let you guys have an opportunity to shoot 653 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:27,480 me down. 654 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,480 Albinur's Hall of Fame. 655 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:35,320 I'm going to make you guys uncomfortable here. 656 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:41,840 So I say yes, it's influence, it's longevity and the fact that they were a one hit wonder 657 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:46,400 band that put in so much time, made so many records and so much music, this being the 658 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:47,840 high point, got to do it. 659 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:48,840 Your turn to say no. 660 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:55,000 Well, I was really anticipating Don maybe nominating Gary Newman for the Anos. 661 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,000 I thought about it. 662 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,080 I thought about it. 663 00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,360 I was not anticipating this. 664 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:07,720 Sometimes a vote is more, it's a vote for the record and more a vote of confidence in 665 00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:09,400 the person who's nominating it. 666 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:10,400 True, true. 667 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:16,520 I did that for one of Don's picks and I was like, yeah, I think it's a good record and 668 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,640 I trust that you think it's a better record. 669 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,840 So maybe I'll get to that point at some point. 670 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,240 Yeah, that was the band, I think. 671 00:38:25,240 --> 00:38:26,240 Yeah, exactly. 672 00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:30,440 That was the band, which I've come to really like that record in the time in between. 673 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:31,440 So it paid off. 674 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,560 And Thin Lizzy was, if this helps at all, inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, 675 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:36,560 I believe in 2012. 676 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,880 Yeah, I don't doubt their influence. 677 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,400 It's really just the specific nine songs. 678 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:42,400 I'll say yes. 679 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:43,400 I'll say yes. 680 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,400 I'm feeling generous today. 681 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:46,400 Ha cha cha. 682 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,320 Yeah, I'm going to say yes as well. 683 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:50,320 Donnie Laakey. 684 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:51,320 Yes. 685 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:56,400 You know, even beyond, I mean, I know that they're an influential band, but just personally, 686 00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,320 I just, I mean, I was really excited by the record. 687 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:01,880 That doesn't always happen. 688 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:08,600 Unexpectedly, Against All Odds, Thin Lizzy, Jailbreak, also a great song, the title track. 689 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:14,320 1976, Alvin Nerd's Hall of Fame, Memba. 690 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,840 All right. 691 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:23,900 So we went through a long list of one hit wonders over the years and we found a few 692 00:39:23,900 --> 00:39:26,260 decent albums here to talk about. 693 00:39:26,260 --> 00:39:27,260 What did we learn? 694 00:39:27,260 --> 00:39:33,200 Well, I mean, I think the main thing I want to talk about here is our definition of a 695 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,200 one hit wonder. 696 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,920 And I would like to petition to change it. 697 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:37,920 Okay. 698 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,280 I think it's, I think, tell me if I'm wrong guys, is it, it's kind of a derogatory term 699 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,880 from my perspective. 700 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:47,560 If you were to call somebody, even if they weren't a musician, if I were to call down 701 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:52,880 a one hit wonder, would you say that was a compliment or am I taking a jab at you? 702 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,320 One hit wonders, it's a very common tale. 703 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,600 Yeah, it's derogatory for the most part. 704 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:03,640 See, I feel like that definition has changed over time because of the accessibility of 705 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:11,880 music where Blind Melon, as an example, one hit wonder, but being a fan of theirs, I know, 706 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:17,040 I knew that there was a base of people that love their records and love more about them 707 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,880 than that one song. 708 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:24,360 So I think as music has become more discoverable, one hit wonder just means that they had one 709 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:31,240 major mainstream hit, but that doesn't, that is no longer derogatory to me. 710 00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:34,440 We did have a little bit of a battle leading into the show. 711 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,320 Wikipedia make the rules for us. 712 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,200 As we always do. 713 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,680 I think it's important to note, like when I hear the word hit, I'm just talking about 714 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,280 commercial appeal. 715 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:51,120 So it's not really a comment on art, how good their art is. 716 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:56,240 And all three, the three of us found good art on these albums. 717 00:40:56,240 --> 00:40:59,960 You're crazy. 718 00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:05,160 I think, I mean, the part I got caught up on, like, especially, you know, Gary Newman and 719 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,320 then Lizzie, they're such influential artists. 720 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,200 And when you hear the music covered all the time and you can hear similarities in modern 721 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,320 day music, to just call them like kind of like a one-off, you know, they just had this 722 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:21,040 fleeting moment of brilliance and everything after that was shit. 723 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:25,200 I think it's just totally missing the entire history. 724 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,040 I don't think it's about brilliance. 725 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,080 I think it's about a song being a hit. 726 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:35,200 I mean, so many of the one hit wonders I looked at on the list, like the Macarena, Mambo number 727 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,840 five, that kind of stuff. 728 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,240 That's just a bunch of people liked something. 729 00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:43,000 And those same people may have liked Thin Lizzie because it was a catchy tune and they 730 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,640 didn't dig in or get into what was underneath. 731 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,160 I don't want to judge anybody without listening to the whole record, but I think there is 732 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:56,800 a subclass of one hit wonders who really are wonders that this happened to them. 733 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:01,480 Like they were right place, right time kind of thing, had the right beat, was a universal 734 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:02,680 enough of a message. 735 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,400 All the stars aligned and this thing came out and they made a bajillion dollars and 736 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,400 that they faded into obscurity afterward. 737 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,480 We needed the broader definition or this show would have sucked. 738 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:12,480 I agree. 739 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,480 I totally agree. 740 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,880 I just wish we could classify those two groups separately and not lump them all together. 741 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,320 I think that's a big mistake. 742 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:21,320 Okay. 743 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,240 One hit wonders and one hit blunders. 744 00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:24,240 It's not bad. 745 00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:25,240 I like that. 746 00:42:25,240 --> 00:42:26,240 Let's break those out. 747 00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:27,240 That's one to grow on. 748 00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:28,240 I'm your density. 749 00:42:28,240 --> 00:42:29,240 I mean your destiny. 750 00:42:29,240 --> 00:42:30,240 Hi boys and girls. 751 00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:33,240 It is again, once that, what the fuck am I saying? 752 00:42:33,240 --> 00:42:34,240 Wow. 753 00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:35,240 That was good. 754 00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:36,240 All right. 755 00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:37,240 Hi boys and girls. 756 00:42:37,240 --> 00:42:55,400 It is once again that time where we decide what fate has in store for us next week. 757 00:42:55,400 --> 00:43:01,480 We are going to circumvent fate here and take just into our own hands as we like to do every 758 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,200 few months or so and take a look at some of the new releases. 759 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,600 What's popping, what's cracking, what's new with the kids. 760 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:08,600 Oh God. 761 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:09,600 What's new with the kids? 762 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:14,200 You know I'm going to pick a band that's been around for 20 years or 30. 763 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:18,760 Be as it may, as long as it's a new release, it qualifies. 764 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,240 Next week we're going to be talking about new releases that have come out in the first 765 00:43:21,240 --> 00:43:23,840 half of 2023. 766 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,240 We'll resume our usual programming after that. 767 00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:28,840 All right Don, you and I got some digging to do. 768 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,040 Mr. Up With The Times Andy is going to be fine. 769 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:36,000 I'm sure he has a list of 300 albums so far that he's enjoyed this year and you and I 770 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,720 are going to have to start reaching deep into that barrel. 771 00:43:38,720 --> 00:43:40,640 Let's see what we can dig up. 772 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,160 See what Gary Newman's working on. 773 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:43,520 Yeah, there you go. 774 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:49,040 Well, Culture Wall just came out with an album so we can do him again. 775 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,640 What's your favorite new release? 776 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,120 Who's your favorite one hit wonder? 777 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:53,200 What else are you listening to? 778 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:54,200 Let us know. 779 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:58,040 Join fellow album nerds on discord at albumnerds.com slash discord. 780 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,480 You can email us at podcast at albumnerds.com. 781 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,480 Follow us on Facebook, Instagram and threads at album nerds. 782 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,520 Please subscribe, rate and review on your favorite podcast app. 783 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:14,000 If you'd like to support the show, you can do so via PayPal at albumnerds.com slash support. 784 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,560 Thank you so much for joining us on the album nerds podcast. 785 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:22,560 We'll catch you next time with some new releases for Q1 and 2 of 2023. 786 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:23,560 It's all business. 787 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:24,560 We're going to do, oh yeah. 788 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:25,560 Thanks for listening everybody. 789 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:26,560 I think Andy had a stroke before the... 790 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:27,560 As soon as we went to the wheel thing. 791 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:28,560 You reboot here. 792 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:29,560 I'll make you crazy. 793 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:30,560 I'll make you crazy. 794 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:31,560 CeeLo, you're fired. 795 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:56,560 I'll make you crazy.