1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:14,040 Welcome to the Album Nerds podcast with your hosts Andy, Todd and Toot. 2 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:15,040 Step by step. 3 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,640 Welcome to the Album Nerds podcast. 4 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,160 We're feeling very harmonious today. 5 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:25,620 No one can see our synchronized choreography right now, but it's pretty awesome. 6 00:00:25,620 --> 00:00:27,000 We're hanging tough. 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:28,000 So welcome. 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,000 I am Dude. 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,400 Hey Andy and Don with me. 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:31,400 Andy, what's up man? 11 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:32,400 Hey, what's up buddy? 12 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:38,600 Um, you know, just popping, locking my usual way over here. 13 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:39,920 Doing the Running Man. 14 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:40,920 Oh yeah. 15 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:42,160 This comes natural to me. 16 00:00:42,160 --> 00:00:43,160 Nice. 17 00:00:43,160 --> 00:00:48,040 Don, are you about to do a heartfelt rap apologizing to the girl that you hurt? 18 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:52,120 Well, I've got the right stuff. 19 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:57,440 Alright, so Album Nerds, we love talking about albums. 20 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,600 Sometimes it's a little challenging listening to the albums. 21 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,840 We're going to be talking about three of those today. 22 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:07,320 We're going to answer a question, talk about what we learned, and then at the end of the 23 00:01:07,320 --> 00:01:11,480 show spin the wheel of musical destiny to find out what kind of albums we'll be talking 24 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,220 about next week. 25 00:01:13,220 --> 00:01:16,560 But this time it's all about the boy bands. 26 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,560 It's gonna be me. 27 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,840 That's what I'm talking about. 28 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:27,920 Well the term boy band was coined in the 1980s to identify vocal groups consisting of young 29 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:33,200 male singers, usually in their teenage years or in their 20s at the time of formation. 30 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:37,380 Generally boy bands performed love songs marketed towards girls and young women. 31 00:01:37,380 --> 00:01:42,240 Many boy bands dance as well as sing, usually giving highly choreographed performances. 32 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:46,520 The group's image, including their attire, the promotional materials and music videos 33 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,560 are often carefully cultivated and controlled. 34 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:55,320 Some point to the barbershop quartets of the late 19th century as the earliest boy bands. 35 00:01:55,320 --> 00:02:00,760 But since the 1960s, many boy bands have conquered the US and international charts. 36 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,000 And today each of us will present an album from a boy band. 37 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:09,480 Don, something that you forgot was that often boy bands each have like types, like the cute 38 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,560 one, the shy one. 39 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:13,560 Who's the cute album nerd? 40 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,680 Yeah, that's what I was going to say. 41 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:16,680 What are our roles? 42 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,680 I don't think, I'm not sure any of us are the cute one. 43 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,800 No, we left that one out. 44 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,240 I'm the bald one, the mean one. 45 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:30,760 No two minute girls are fawning after the bald mean one. 46 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:32,960 My wife's pretty into it. 47 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,160 Listeners, albumnerz.com slash discord. 48 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,600 Tell us which one each of us is if we were in a boy band. 49 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:40,720 All right. 50 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,560 So yeah, I combed through all the typical stuff. 51 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:49,560 I listened to a little bit of New Edition because they were kind of considered one of 52 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:54,440 the early ones in the Boston area and then came New Kids on the Block. 53 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,200 So I listened to their album, Hanging Tough, I think it was. 54 00:02:58,200 --> 00:02:59,200 Oh yes. 55 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:03,560 I listened to several in sync albums, 98 Degrees. 56 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:08,920 I actually listened to Millennium by Backstreet Boys, which actually holds up pretty well. 57 00:03:08,920 --> 00:03:11,200 I think they kind of stuck right in the middle of pop. 58 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,160 They weren't trying to do a lot of R&B so it doesn't sound as dated as some of the other 59 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:16,520 stuff does now. 60 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,920 And the first in sync album before the No Strings Attached was pretty pleasant too, 61 00:03:20,920 --> 00:03:24,120 a little more middle lane pop music. 62 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:28,360 And they did a cool version of Sailing by Christopher Cross, which we talked about on 63 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:29,360 our Yacht Rock. 64 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,520 So I actually had some fun listening to these things. 65 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,760 I'd never listened to any of them in full before. 66 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,200 So how'd you guys do? 67 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:41,240 Yeah, you know, by the end of the week I was kind of digging this topic as well. 68 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:46,200 It took me a while to get into the mindset of a teenage girl, but once I was there, I 69 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:47,200 felt pretty natural. 70 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:48,200 Uh-oh. 71 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:49,200 Is this permanent? 72 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,120 Hopefully I can come back at some point here. 73 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:57,640 But I've always lately been curious about K-pop and just like what exactly that culture 74 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,160 is about and some of the bands that are involved around it. 75 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,240 So I took this opportunity to dig into that scene a little bit. 76 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:08,440 One of the first things I found out is a lot of the K-pop popular groups are female groups 77 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:09,440 though. 78 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,880 So it's only a handful of boy groups that are really huge. 79 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:16,400 I listened to a lot of BTS, which is probably the most well-known K-pop group. 80 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,440 If you guys are familiar with them, have you ever heard their name before? 81 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:20,440 Yes. 82 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:26,480 And I'm only familiar with any of their songs because I play Fortnite with my nephews and 83 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:31,600 a lot of the emote things that the characters can do are BTS songs. 84 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:32,600 Oh, nice. 85 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,560 Yeah, they're actually pretty enjoyable. 86 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:41,040 I listened to a couple of their recent records with a group called Big Bang, which is popular 87 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,320 more like in the 2010s. 88 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:48,760 As well as one of the first K-pop groups I could find was a group called Seo Taji and 89 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,200 the Boys, who were popular like in the early 90s. 90 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:55,320 Kind of like a throwback, almost like New Jack Swing sound to them, which I found pretty 91 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:56,320 interesting. 92 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,560 So we'll be talking about some more K-pop in a moment or two. 93 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,600 Well, I looked internationally as well. 94 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:10,080 First, I spent some time with the English group, of course, Take That, which was extremely 95 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,160 popular internationally, but never were like a big thing in the United States. 96 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:20,080 Of course, that featured Robbie Williams, who also had big international success as 97 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:21,480 a solo artist. 98 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,320 So yeah, the album Everything Changes was listenable. 99 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:30,480 Also looked at Menudo from Puerto Rico. 100 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:35,760 I remember watching Saturday morning cartoons and all of a sudden they'd show a Menudo video. 101 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:42,560 So I listened to an album called Fuego, which I think means fire, from 1981. 102 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:47,680 So what was weird about Menudo, I think they're still around, they rotated members. 103 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,760 Once you aged out, they'd bring new people in. 104 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,920 And I remember seeing Menudo on an episode of Silver Spoons. 105 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,680 Oh my gosh. 106 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,600 Of course, Ricky Martin was a member, I think, in the mid 80s. 107 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,000 He went on to some fame of his own. 108 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,280 All right, so let's see what we picked. 109 00:06:05,280 --> 00:06:08,280 You choo choo choose me? 110 00:06:08,280 --> 00:06:21,600 All right, we'll kick things off here with the princes of K-pop, Shinee. 111 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:29,520 We're talking about their fifth studio album from 2016, entitled One of One. 112 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,960 We are going to play the lead single and title cut. 113 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:36,960 This is One of One. 114 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:49,320 All right, so a little bit of a retro kind of throwback sound on this record for Shinee, 115 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,800 which I believe is how you say it, not Shinee. 116 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:58,360 The album cover confused me because it's their fifth album, so the S is shaped like a five. 117 00:06:58,360 --> 00:06:59,920 I thought it was Five Hiny. 118 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:03,880 Right, that totally threw me off the first. 119 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,840 Five Hiny's a cool name too. 120 00:07:06,840 --> 00:07:09,720 There's five guys, they all have Hynies. 121 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:10,720 That is true. 122 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:11,720 It works. 123 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:12,720 Yeah, interesting. 124 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:17,140 They label all the records, like the fourth album, the fifth album, the sixth album. 125 00:07:17,140 --> 00:07:18,140 So they're all sequential. 126 00:07:18,140 --> 00:07:19,140 I kind of like that. 127 00:07:19,140 --> 00:07:24,600 Yeah, it's kind of like the Halos that Trent Reznor used to do on the Nine Inch Nails albums, 128 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:25,600 Halo One, Halo... 129 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:26,600 That's true. 130 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,320 Yeah, so this is their fifth studio album. 131 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:35,400 Their group was formed in 2008 by SM Entertainment, which is like a publishing organization in 132 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:36,400 South Korea. 133 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:41,600 They've since gone and become one of the more popular boy groups in that K-pop movement 134 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,120 over the last couple of decades here. 135 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:49,120 This record I found pretty interesting because it really pulls a lot from like 90s hip hop 136 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,600 and R&B in terms of the production style and even some other singing. 137 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,880 There's even like some moments that kind of sound like New Jack Swing. 138 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,960 I think that track there has some elements of New Jack Swing into it, but also has kind 139 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,360 of a modern vibe to it as well. 140 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:08,480 My three worst described this record are, once you K-pop, you can't stop. 141 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:09,600 I definitely got into it. 142 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:16,640 I was surprised by how catchy this stuff is, even not knowing Korean really at all. 143 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:17,640 But the beats, undeniable. 144 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,680 And there's something just really uplifting and fun about this music. 145 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,520 So I was pretty into it by the end of the week. 146 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:29,280 One of the very telling things of listening to this album in the mix of English words, 147 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,720 but it's mostly in Korean with the occasional English word or Korean words that kind of 148 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,720 sound like certain English words, and that's what they make the title of the song for American 149 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:38,720 audiences. 150 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:44,660 But made it clear that this kind of music can be as entertaining and fun to listen to 151 00:08:44,660 --> 00:08:46,920 whether or not you understand the words. 152 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,680 I almost found it as like an asset. 153 00:08:48,680 --> 00:08:52,000 Like I almost appreciated not understanding what was happening because... 154 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,000 Then you can't cringe. 155 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,140 Yeah, it's so bad. 156 00:08:55,140 --> 00:08:56,880 You can't cringe at a terrible line. 157 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:57,880 Seriously. 158 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:58,880 That's kind of nice. 159 00:08:58,880 --> 00:08:59,880 Yeah. 160 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:00,880 Why don't we play another cut from the record? 161 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:14,320 This is a little bit of You Need Me. 162 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:15,960 Can that be our new intro music? 163 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:16,960 I like that. 164 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:17,960 Yeah, I wish, man. 165 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:18,960 It's really nice. 166 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,640 I mean, that's one of the pluses of this particular record. 167 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,720 I don't know about the rest of theirs, but they pull out all the stops on the production 168 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,800 and musicianship stuff that they do. 169 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,720 Yeah, it's just really sonically interesting. 170 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:39,720 In fact, the three words I chose to describe the album, producers paintbrush. 171 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:45,920 I think for a lot of these boy bands, I think it's more about the producers than the artists 172 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:46,920 themselves. 173 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:52,720 So, while I'm sure the performers have input, I do feel like the producers are kind of in 174 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:59,960 control and they're sort of using the talents or manipulating the talents of the performers 175 00:09:59,960 --> 00:10:02,080 to get what they want out of it. 176 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:07,280 I imagine it's probably quite fun as a producer because you are sort of limited to this pop 177 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:12,200 music realm where you need everything to be catchy and appealing to your audience. 178 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,720 But I think sometimes when you have those limitations, you can try to sort of push the 179 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:16,720 boundaries. 180 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:17,720 I don't know. 181 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:23,680 On this album in particular, I think they really do a good job of just creating this 182 00:10:23,680 --> 00:10:25,840 sonic experience. 183 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,760 So it's more than just the catchy hooks. 184 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:33,440 They're just doing all sorts of interesting studio tricks and playing around with melody 185 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,080 and tempo. 186 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,680 So I was really impressed from that standpoint. 187 00:10:37,680 --> 00:10:40,080 Yeah, there's a lot going on. 188 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:44,080 I feel like the album's like maybe eight, nine tracks, like 30 minutes, and they cover 189 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:49,800 a lot of ground sonically in that time period from like R&B and funk and pop and some soul 190 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,680 and there's like rap in there. 191 00:10:51,680 --> 00:10:52,920 And let's see here. 192 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:59,040 So the record itself is kind of like, I would say a 50-50 mix of ballads and dance tracks. 193 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,880 Definitely are some slow burners where they get up close to the mic and confess their 194 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,080 feelings it seems. 195 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,720 But there's still plenty of dancey, catchy tracks. 196 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:14,720 I'm gonna play one of the songs that kind of catch both of those sounds. 197 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:31,240 Yeah, so you got that sort of slow jam territory with the rap interlude. 198 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:36,360 I don't know what the words are exactly, but I'm guessing it's either a profession of love 199 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,320 or an apology for hurting her feelings. 200 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:43,440 Yeah, it's about a 99% chance. 201 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:49,520 Yeah, so the three words I chose to describe the album are perfected, a personality packaging 202 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,580 where it's just perfect. 203 00:11:51,580 --> 00:11:56,680 Like the voices, the way that they each deliver, you can tell who they are in the group without 204 00:11:56,680 --> 00:11:59,340 having any clue who the dudes are. 205 00:11:59,340 --> 00:12:04,880 They nailed the boy band thing on every level, the look, the voices, but yet it still seems 206 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,840 sincere, which is hard to pull off the packaged yet sincere. 207 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:13,480 It feels like they feel like whatever it is that they're singing. 208 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:19,480 And I appreciate the longevity and the reverence for late 80s and 90s American counterparts, 209 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:25,960 the boy band stuff, and sticking to some of those classic sounds with some updated production. 210 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:26,960 So yeah. 211 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:31,760 Yeah, it's kind of an interesting mix of like, definitely is elements of US culture you can 212 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:36,280 hear in this music rubbing off on there as an influence, but yeah, it's still very, feels 213 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,480 very Korean and very separate and then another way. 214 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,560 That's kind of an interesting juxtaposition of cultures there and sounds. 215 00:12:43,560 --> 00:12:44,960 It's pretty interesting. 216 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:52,080 Well, it's similar in some ways to when we discussed the city pop in Japan where they 217 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:57,560 took American sounds and made them their own and did some cool production stuff and got 218 00:12:57,560 --> 00:13:02,240 some really good musicians together to replicate yet elevate the sound. 219 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,600 And I think that's what is happening here. 220 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:10,360 And at least for this group, I don't know about the rest for sure, but Andy, maybe that's 221 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:11,640 a, is that across the board? 222 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:18,280 Did you find that American base for the sound and then that there was a elevation throughout 223 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:19,840 some of the records you were listening to? 224 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,040 I think that seems fair. 225 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,360 I mean, I wouldn't say I'm an extrovert after a week by any means, but you definitely could 226 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:28,920 feel the influence of bands like, like instinct and, and backstreet and stuff like that. 227 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:35,080 And in this music, also in their way, they dance, which is a big, big part of those spaces 228 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:36,080 too. 229 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,400 Like even the way the songs are constructed feels like it's very intentionally built in 230 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,520 a way that could be choreographed easily or kind of like, you know, give all these different 231 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:47,480 members of group kind of their own say in the song and kind of their own spotlight on 232 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:48,480 the stage. 233 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,000 But the dance moves are very similar to the things I remember in sync and backstreet doing 234 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,000 back in the day. 235 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,000 Yeah. 236 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,600 And they're very fashion forward guys as well. 237 00:13:55,600 --> 00:14:00,520 They'll have very unique looks and kind of, I don't know what saying culturally, but they 238 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:04,760 all have very distinct personalities in the way they dress, which like even as an outsider 239 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,360 could kind of pick up on that after a few days of watching them. 240 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:08,360 Oh yeah. 241 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:09,360 Pretty cool. 242 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:10,360 Just like the Wiggles. 243 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:17,480 Well, the Wiggles are easy to see the difference because of the color of their turtleneck. 244 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,080 Yeah, they're not quite that clean. 245 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:26,000 Yeah, like, you know, in sync and backstreet, in sync in particular, they had, you know, 246 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:30,720 the one dude with the fountain head beaded hair, like pulled in a top knot, looked like 247 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,280 a fountain coming out of his head, dressed something. 248 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:39,440 And in Backstreet Boys, the one that like had frosted tips and was dangerous because 249 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,480 he had a piercing and a tattoo, you know, that whole sort of thing. 250 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:44,480 AJ, I think. 251 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,840 So yeah, this was, this was fun to listen to. 252 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:52,200 It was a little bit of the same with a little bit of the different, and I appreciated a 253 00:14:52,200 --> 00:15:01,760 different perspective on what I've often thought of as a completely vapid, whatever you want 254 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,840 to like part of pop music. 255 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,520 You know, I know that K-pop is pretty big in the U.S., but I think there's definitely 256 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:11,120 some interesting things going on in the space and it feels pretty fresh and new. 257 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:15,200 Those things are, you know, kind of rolling off the K-pop production line here. 258 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:16,920 There's lots of stuff going on there. 259 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:18,280 So definitely worth checking out. 260 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:22,520 I think they're a good, a good band to get into if you're not super deep into it already, 261 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,640 because there's definitely, you know, elements of American culture in their music that I 262 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,120 think are relatable and pretty interesting. 263 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:33,000 So if you haven't heard, Shinee, their album is one of one and they have all, they just 264 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,560 put out a new record just earlier this year and they're doing all sorts of interesting 265 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:37,560 stuff. 266 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:38,560 So check them out. 267 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:39,560 Step by step. 268 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:40,560 I'm good enough. 269 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,920 I'm smart enough and doggone it. 270 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:43,920 People like me. 271 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:48,840 If you're enjoying the show and we know you are, do us a solid and leave a review on Apple 272 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,080 podcasts or your favorite podcast app. 273 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:53,560 You can do it on Spotify now. 274 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,520 Maybe we made you laugh or you discovered an album you enjoy. 275 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:01,640 Leaving a review keeps the show going and helps other music fans find us. 276 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:07,560 Oh, Nick Jonas is so cute. 277 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:16,960 Okay, so my choice for a boy band album was an album called The Album by Jonas Brothers. 278 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:18,440 Oh boy. 279 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:24,800 Yeah, which actually was just released last month here in 2023. 280 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,200 Let's hear the second cut on the album. 281 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,200 This is Montana Sky. 282 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:44,720 So despite this kind of modern and polished sound, the album does kind of flirt with Americana. 283 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:49,280 In fact, there's literally a song called Americana. 284 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:55,200 So they are kind of going around the different eras and borrowing from different genres. 285 00:16:55,200 --> 00:17:00,600 But I would say overall, they mainly go to sort of like a 70s funk and R&B sound. 286 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:05,160 So this is the sixth studio album by the American pop band Jonas Brothers. 287 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:10,280 And they are in fact brothers, Kevin, Joe and Nick, and that's in order of oldest to 288 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:11,280 youngest. 289 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:15,280 They were formed in 2005 in Wyckoff, New Jersey. 290 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:21,320 They rose to prominence pretty quickly thanks to the Disney Channel, hugely successful band. 291 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:28,120 They broke up in 2013, but they returned in 2019 with their hugely successful album, Happiness 292 00:17:28,120 --> 00:17:29,120 Begins. 293 00:17:29,120 --> 00:17:31,380 And so this is the follow up to that. 294 00:17:31,380 --> 00:17:37,220 So the three words I chose to describe the album were wholesome, maroon five. 295 00:17:37,220 --> 00:17:42,560 So I kept finding myself as I'm listening, I'm like, oh, this could be a maroon five. 296 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,320 I can picture Adam Levine singing this. 297 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:51,560 OK, but then you're saying that somehow maroon five is dangerous and not wholesome. 298 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:52,560 They are totally vanilla. 299 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:53,560 He does have tattoos. 300 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:54,560 I mean, I don't know. 301 00:17:54,560 --> 00:18:00,520 No, I think Adam Levine sort of like Prince, I feel like he's always singing with an erection. 302 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:07,560 I think like all the songs are about sex and getting with you and stuff. 303 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,360 That's a good too far off track. 304 00:18:10,360 --> 00:18:15,120 I saw Maroon Five opening for the Counting Crows a few years back. 305 00:18:15,120 --> 00:18:20,160 Adam Levine was wearing some kind of high heeled boots and had his shirt off and I was 306 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:21,160 pretty far away. 307 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,800 So he was strutting around very Prince like. 308 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,280 So I see what you're saying. 309 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:26,280 So back to the... 310 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,480 You couldn't tell if it was a codpiece or a... 311 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,800 All right, go ahead. 312 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,200 OK, well, let's hear some more. 313 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,200 Here's Waffle House. 314 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:40,200 Waffles. 315 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:57,640 Yeah, so Waffle House kind of has a late 80s feel to me. 316 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,720 You know, could have been a hit then. 317 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:05,480 Sort of this song is like an upbeat way of representing family, major theme of their 318 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:06,480 lives right now. 319 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:11,360 They're all like in their 30s and having their starting their families. 320 00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:15,760 Sounds like I imagine them sounding because I'd never heard them before, but with a grown 321 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,360 up vibe and but the vocals are a little processed. 322 00:19:19,360 --> 00:19:20,960 Yeah, in fact, that was... 323 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:25,520 So I do have some Jonas Brothers fans in my household and that's their complaint about 324 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:29,720 this newest album is that there's just so much processing on the vocals. 325 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:34,320 And supposedly, I mean, their voices have improved dramatically over the years. 326 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:39,680 You know, they've really worked on it and yet they're kind of burying them behind this 327 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,040 electronic gadgetry. 328 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,080 Yeah, I noticed that a lot. 329 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,400 Like there'd be songs where they're sounding good and then all of a sudden it sounds very 330 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,400 blah, blah, blah, blah, you know. 331 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:54,640 The three words I used to describe this album, bros gone mild. 332 00:19:54,640 --> 00:20:00,640 Like I don't know much about them, but it seemed like back in their heyday, Disney was 333 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:06,480 framing them as like rockers somehow because they were like on the Disney Channel or something. 334 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,640 And Disney's version of that. 335 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:09,760 Right, right. 336 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:14,520 You know, there are a lot of ingredients in this album, but they're all very mild. 337 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:15,640 There's no spice. 338 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,360 Like everything is kind of muted. 339 00:20:17,360 --> 00:20:18,760 I really liked how it started off. 340 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,440 The first four tracks are fairly enjoyable. 341 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,880 Poppy with some Bruno Mars touches, R&B and funk. 342 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:34,120 Then they sort of sink back into adult contemporary pop and Americana starts to celebrate is just 343 00:20:34,120 --> 00:20:35,360 corny tonight. 344 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:36,360 We party like Vegas. 345 00:20:36,360 --> 00:20:37,360 Oh, that's really, oh man. 346 00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:40,440 It's like all of those wedding songs or something. 347 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,680 The vocals sound extra processed on that one, but I like the horns. 348 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,520 There's some like the musically throughout. 349 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:47,520 It's pretty interesting. 350 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,440 An acoustic track or two would have been nice. 351 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,580 Something a little more real sounding. 352 00:20:52,580 --> 00:20:56,000 And then that summer in the Hamptons just destroyed the record for me. 353 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:00,240 I'm deep inside your sand, different kind of warmness. 354 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,640 My heart inside your hands, a thousand wild horses. 355 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:04,920 Sex like summer in the Hamptons. 356 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,600 Oh, thanks for reading the lyrics. 357 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:07,600 That was good. 358 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:14,320 So summer in the Hamptons is so, so such an enjoyable thing for, for the one percenters 359 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:15,320 there. 360 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:16,320 Yeah. 361 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,840 Thanks for marginalizing me, Jonas Brothers. 362 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,760 And then that's what you're comparing the sex to. 363 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:23,760 Lame. 364 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,960 I mean, this wasn't terrible overall. 365 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:30,640 Just got a little corny for the like last two thirds of the record. 366 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,000 I enjoyed more of it than I thought I would, to be honest. 367 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,920 So you know, it's inoffensive for the most part. 368 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:37,920 It's poppy. 369 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,200 I'm sure people could play it in the background at summertime picnics and have a great time. 370 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:42,200 Yeah. 371 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,720 One thing I'll say for the Jonas Brothers, even, you know, since early on, they've always 372 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:50,360 gotten song writing credits for most of their songs, not all of them. 373 00:21:50,360 --> 00:21:54,660 But even on this album, you know, all three brothers are credited, but then there's always 374 00:21:54,660 --> 00:21:56,080 10 other names. 375 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,360 And actually it was similar with the, with the K-pop album. 376 00:21:58,360 --> 00:22:01,000 I mean, there's like 15 producers on the album. 377 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,480 Huge, huge list of people. 378 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:03,480 Yeah. 379 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:04,480 Yeah. 380 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:05,760 They're probably like, they're probably like, can we put a comma there? 381 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,660 And they're like, all right, nice. 382 00:22:07,660 --> 00:22:10,400 Thank you, Mr. Jonas. 383 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:11,400 You get a writing credit. 384 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:12,400 I do wonder about that. 385 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,240 Cause like Taylor Swift has like the same thing. 386 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,460 She gets credited for being a songwriter, but there's always multiple people on her 387 00:22:18,460 --> 00:22:19,680 tracks as well. 388 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:20,680 So, okay. 389 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,040 Well let's, let's hear another one. 390 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,040 This is a miracle. 391 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:34,040 Best song on the album. 392 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:38,360 And I was very hopeful when I heard at the top of the album. 393 00:22:38,360 --> 00:22:41,680 I was coming in after out of my K-pop high here. 394 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,680 I heard that song and I was like, oh man, this is going to be awesome. 395 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:45,680 I'm going to be totally into this. 396 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:46,680 I'm going to love this. 397 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,920 That's what sounds like very Bruno Mars to me. 398 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,240 He was kind of into that sort of funky vibe on that track. 399 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,680 And yeah, I am kind of, I'm bored with the dude there. 400 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,640 It goes off the rails pretty quickly for me after that, but there are good things that 401 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,240 happen on this record that not a lot, but there's a handful of things I enjoyed. 402 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:09,160 I think songs like Wings and Sail Away kind of in the first half of the record there, 403 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:13,280 are really pretty interesting musically what's going on that I've found fairly compelling. 404 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:18,240 I just felt like vocally they just really didn't have enough oomph behind them to really 405 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,600 sell like the drama that they're trying to push on those songs. 406 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,000 And it could be sort of the processing of the vocals that you guys mentioned could be 407 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,280 contributing to that or, but it just didn't sound very alive to me. 408 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:33,840 The whole record sounds so sleek and polished and all the edges are smoothed away completely. 409 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,200 Like Summer in the Hamptons? 410 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,200 Yeah. 411 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,200 Right. 412 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,520 I think I'm going to use that from now on to compare anything to, this sandwich is like 413 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:41,520 Summer in the Hamptons. 414 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:46,200 Well, that's that song I think really stuck out as being, yeah, a little, little cringey. 415 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,920 That part of the record is fairly interesting. 416 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:52,960 There's this whole like vacation summer vibe on the B side here, which I could kind of 417 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:53,960 get into. 418 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,320 Maybe Acoustic Track would be a good idea on there to give that laid back vibe more 419 00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,320 of a realness. 420 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,320 I wondered if Sail Away was an ode to Anya. 421 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:04,320 Yeah. 422 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:05,320 Or an Okoflo. 423 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,320 Sail Away. 424 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:08,320 Sorry. 425 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:13,360 And the closer, the closing two tracks, Little Bird and Walls, don't feel like part of this 426 00:24:13,360 --> 00:24:14,360 record at all to me. 427 00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:19,300 They found, they seem very dramatic and serious and almost like they were just like tagged 428 00:24:19,300 --> 00:24:24,200 on as like a cool live cut that we could play at our shows as a closing track. 429 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,440 I kind of liked that song. 430 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,280 Walls especially, I thought was kind of a good closer. 431 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:32,160 Yeah, that had that, was it John Bellion? 432 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,560 John Bellion or something? 433 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:34,560 Yeah. 434 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:35,560 He's dead. 435 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:36,560 Yeah. 436 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,920 He's written a bunch of like pop songs for like Maroon 5 and even like Eminem and stuff. 437 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:41,920 Apparently he has a hit. 438 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,760 Is it like All Time Low or something? 439 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:49,080 I'm not familiar with him, but I think that's his voice on there and he co-wrote that song 440 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,880 and a few others on the album. 441 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:51,880 Yeah. 442 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:52,880 He sounds good on the track. 443 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,680 I think it, I don't know, add a little urgency and a little drama to what's going on here, 444 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,160 which I think was sorely needed, at least for me by that point in the record. 445 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,520 My three words to describe this record are TikTok, pop. 446 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,440 I think these songs were great like in the background on someone's like 30 second video 447 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:14,720 and that's probably about as much as we'll get out of this, I think, but it's not bad. 448 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:15,720 It could be nothing but worse. 449 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,720 I was informed that this was the wrong Jonas Brothers album to do and that I should have 450 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,000 done the previous album, Happiness Begins. 451 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,320 You guys are probably familiar with tracks from that, that Sucker For You song. 452 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:27,960 I'm a sucker for you. 453 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,840 I didn't know they were still recording at all. 454 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,880 I thought they were done in like 2010 or something. 455 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:41,120 Well, anyway, so that was the album from the Jonas Brothers. 456 00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:48,640 Could they change the name to Anne album? 457 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:49,640 Excuse me. 458 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:54,680 I'd like to ask you a few questions. 459 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:59,080 It's the time of the show where we ask ourselves a question. 460 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:03,600 So boy bands are kind of known as fashion trendsetters. 461 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,840 What fashion statements did you make while you were growing up? 462 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,720 Oh boy, that's one of those loaded questions. 463 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,360 Yeah, I had the pleasure of growing up in the 80s. 464 00:26:12,360 --> 00:26:17,400 If you were alive in the 80s, you know that fluorescent colors were like super, super 465 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:22,320 hot, super big at the time along with like a lot of like synthetic fabrics. 466 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,580 So I had some like, I think you called it like dayglow is what you would call it back 467 00:26:25,580 --> 00:26:31,960 in the 80s, like bright pink construction worker, like stay away from me. 468 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,720 Shorts that were like way too short for a young boy to be wearing. 469 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:42,540 Well, he did better than me because when I was little, it was the jogging shorts that 470 00:26:42,540 --> 00:26:48,120 were literally like you had to wear a jock strap even at age eight for stuff not to fall 471 00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:49,120 out. 472 00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:50,120 You know what I mean? 473 00:26:50,120 --> 00:26:52,120 Yeah, things are very loose back then. 474 00:26:52,120 --> 00:26:55,880 There wasn't a lot of structure in clothing. 475 00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:00,520 So yeah, I had those and I had these like bright green, I wore glasses all the time 476 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,680 back then, like glasses holders that I thought was cool that would like keep my glasses from 477 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:05,680 falling off my face. 478 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:06,680 Nice. 479 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:07,680 Hell yeah. 480 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:12,280 I don't know, like pretty much Oracle style, but like flossing green. 481 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,960 So I don't know what I was thinking, but I was clearly not in a boy band. 482 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,120 Oh, you could have been, sounds like. 483 00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:19,720 How about you guys? 484 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,000 So for me, there's a lot. 485 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,000 Mullets. 486 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,000 You had a mullet? 487 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,000 Yes. 488 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,040 Popped collars. 489 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:34,400 I mean, there's a lot of mistakes that were made, but when I was a little younger, like 490 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,920 middle school age, I was into break dancing and stuff and I didn't really have the funds 491 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:45,320 or the access in the middle of the Midwest to get cool street gear. 492 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:52,880 So I did have a pair of like pleather parachute pants that I found at a discount store, but 493 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,440 me and my friends would walk around all geared up with headbands tied around when we went 494 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,320 to see Breaking Two, Electric Boogaloo at the theater. 495 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,780 But I wanted the fingerless leather glove things, so I didn't have that. 496 00:28:04,780 --> 00:28:11,320 So I took a pair of black socks, cut off the toe and cut finger holes in it. 497 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:17,840 I was walking around with like bandanas around my legs and stuff at a movie premiere with 498 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:25,480 sock toes on my hands, trying to pull off like I had cool, you know, leather gloves 499 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:26,480 or something. 500 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,720 Why didn't you just use gloves instead of socks? 501 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,280 I didn't have any. 502 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,880 You didn't have any work gloves you could cut? 503 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:34,920 No, but I did. 504 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:39,800 I did used to use my mom's old white dress gloves, glue sparkles on it and pretend it 505 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,600 was a Michael Jackson glove and go to school wearing it. 506 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,920 A lot of mistakes were made. 507 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:51,200 The sunglasses look like Venetian blinds, all that stuff. 508 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,200 Those are cool. 509 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,560 What about you, Don? 510 00:28:54,560 --> 00:29:00,680 My mother played a large role in dressing me, I think, for much of my young life. 511 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,040 And I just kind of went with it. 512 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,260 I didn't rebel against it. 513 00:29:03,260 --> 00:29:07,640 So as I got into middle school, I guess I always just kind of had what would have been 514 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,320 called like a preppy look. 515 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:14,880 I feel like every day of middle school, I wore like a sweater with a turtleneck under 516 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:15,880 it. 517 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:16,880 You're not alone, man. 518 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,720 I can't remember the last time I wore a turtleneck, but. 519 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,240 A sweater and a turtleneck? 520 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,240 Oh, yeah. 521 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,240 Do I usually wear one or the other? 522 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:26,240 No, man. 523 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,240 Not done. 524 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:28,240 Not done. 525 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,080 Around about 88, back in my mullet days, same thing. 526 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:34,080 I had like different colored turtlenecks that would go with my different pattern sweaters. 527 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,520 Man, it sounds very hot. 528 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:43,200 It was, but I mean, I had the cool haircut with the shaved up sides and the spiky top 529 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,720 and party in the back. 530 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,960 And I didn't have the chest back then to wear a turtleneck on its own, you know, because 531 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:54,360 they always sort of frame your chest in such a way that it's not flattering if you have 532 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,160 any kind of, if you're a little soft there. 533 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:02,680 We should just use dickies, man. 534 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,680 What's a dickie? 535 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:10,000 Yeah, dickie is like the turtleneck top and it just comes down around your chest. 536 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,000 So there's no shirt. 537 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,000 It just, you put it underneath like a sweater or whatever. 538 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,000 Yeah. 539 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,680 I could tell Cousin Eddie's wearing that and then Christmas vacation under his sweater. 540 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:20,680 Yes. 541 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:21,680 Okay. 542 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:27,040 Well, what trends did you partake in growing up? 543 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,040 Let us know. 544 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:36,960 Hit us up on the socials and on discord, albumnerds.com slash discord. 545 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,200 So I am going with a somewhat controversial pick. 546 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:46,960 I've had conversations with people that disagree with me on this, that the Monkeys are a boy 547 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:47,960 band. 548 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:48,960 What's the argument against? 549 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:49,960 I mean, I don't know. 550 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:55,400 Well, that they were a band, that they didn't like have dance choreography and all that 551 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:56,400 kind of stuff. 552 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,680 They had good instruments, but they were formed. 553 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:01,680 They were cast. 554 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,480 They did not know each other. 555 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,360 They did not have any connection. 556 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:11,360 They had songs written for them that they were to sing and be like the Beatles. 557 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:17,080 And so a formulaic Beatles to me is a boy band. 558 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,440 Jump right into it. 559 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:23,220 We're talking about the album, The Birds and the Bees and the Monkeys, their fifth album 560 00:31:23,220 --> 00:31:25,320 released in 1968. 561 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,640 And God, they released a lot of albums in a short period. 562 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:45,800 We're going to play the probably most beloved track from this album, Daydream Believers. 563 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:51,200 Probably my favorite Monkeys song, to be honest, and part of the reason I picked this album. 564 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:56,280 Now that song was actually recorded with all of the members of the Monkeys. 565 00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:01,440 That's Davy Jones, Peter Tork, Mike Nesmith, and Mickey Dolenz. 566 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,520 And it's the only song in the album that actually has all of them on it. 567 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:10,120 They recorded it for the previous album, Pisces, Aquarius, Capricorn, and Jones Limited from 568 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,620 1967. 569 00:32:11,620 --> 00:32:14,520 But they held it back and it got put on this album. 570 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,480 The weird part about this is Peter Tork had announced he was leaving. 571 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:19,960 Their show had been canceled. 572 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:26,160 Their movie that they put out had, that was supposed to be a psychedelic trip, man, bombed. 573 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,400 They started to write music and play real instruments. 574 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,720 A couple of them already played guitar, but Davy Jones played a mean tambourine and Mickey 575 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:38,440 Dolenz learned to play drums because they wanted to really perform and be real musicians 576 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,140 once they had all the adulation and get respect. 577 00:32:41,140 --> 00:32:44,840 So that's a lot to try and do in a short period of time. 578 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:49,560 And this album, they went off in their own camps and brought recorded songs that they 579 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,960 did with studio musicians. 580 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,360 And that's why I think it's so interesting. 581 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:59,800 They had all come to their creative peak, but they weren't truly a band. 582 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:04,520 And that's why I found this album to be so fascinating. 583 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:10,520 The three words that I used to describe it, the monkeys escape the zoo. 584 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:15,040 There had been a lot of control in that short period of time. 585 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,660 And this was, I think, their third album where they had some creative input. 586 00:33:18,660 --> 00:33:20,160 This was all them. 587 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,840 And I really enjoyed it as weird as it is. 588 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:29,440 There's some great tracks that, especially the Mickey Dolenz tracks, I really enjoyed 589 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,320 Zor and Zam, an anti-war song at the end. 590 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:41,080 P.O. Box 9847, a psychedelic sort of song about what personal ads, match.com of the 591 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:47,520 day, where you put an ad in the newspaper and have someone send a letter to you to P.O. 592 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:53,280 Box, and just the way that he's describing himself for the profile. 593 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,640 It was fun. 594 00:33:54,640 --> 00:34:01,200 So why don't we jump into another hit track, but a little, this one's a little less on 595 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:02,480 the nose for them. 596 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:03,760 It's a little more adventurous. 597 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,880 This one's called Valerie. 598 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:18,040 She sure looks different than the way she looked before. 599 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,080 Yeah, I always liked that track. 600 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:24,120 I think Valerie and Daydreamer Believer really stand out on this record to me as kind of 601 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,880 sounding a little bit more like how they said it on those first couple of records, where 602 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,680 they're a little bit more of like a group, a little bit less of the kind of like collection 603 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,680 of solo projects. 604 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:34,680 Yeah. 605 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:39,400 My three words to describe this record are they're using tools because they learn how 606 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,400 to play instruments. 607 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,400 Oh, because they're monkeys and they're monkeys. 608 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:44,400 Yeah. 609 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:45,400 Cool. 610 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:46,400 I thought it was funny. 611 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:47,400 I know. 612 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:48,400 It's good. 613 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,400 Yeah. 614 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:50,400 I grew up a monkeys fan actually. 615 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,080 They're probably the first real band I got into as like a young lad. 616 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,800 I think it was because they had this great kind of packaged persona where you could kind 617 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:01,320 of like, there's a TV show and there's a movie and there's like toys and buttons and 618 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:02,320 stickers and stuff. 619 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,920 And I was like, yes, I love all this stuff. 620 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:05,920 Yeah. 621 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:10,280 I mean, VH1, 1986, they started airing those episodes, those three seasons. 622 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,320 Nickelodeon 2, I think they were on. 623 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:18,400 And it really reignited, the monkeys got back together because of that. 624 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:23,680 And again, like we talked about with the Jonas Brothers, that sort of the nostalgia factor. 625 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:28,480 So the kids that loved you come back as adults to go see you and then their kids are interested 626 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:29,480 because they see the show. 627 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:30,480 That's exactly what happened. 628 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:31,480 Yeah. 629 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,360 But this record is pretty interesting, man. 630 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,480 It was not what I thought you were going to pick when you were talking about the monkeys. 631 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,040 I had not heard this one. 632 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,480 It's a pretty eclectic, interesting album. 633 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:45,560 I don't know if it's exactly a home run, but there's a lot of interesting ideas going on 634 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:46,560 here. 635 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:47,560 Yeah. 636 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,040 You can hear a lot of like the Eastern influence, like the Beatles were introducing a lot of 637 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:54,840 sound into the musical a bit at this time too, the sort of psychedelic thing going on 638 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,240 in the music as well. 639 00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:57,240 It's cool. 640 00:35:57,240 --> 00:35:58,480 It works on tracks, on some of the tracks here. 641 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,640 I think the P.O. Box track you mentioned and Zoran Zam I think are pretty good. 642 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,720 Auntie's Municipal Court, the second track. 643 00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:09,560 Sounds a lot like Captain B-Far to me, which I was shocking that the monkeys would kind 644 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,200 of go into that territory. 645 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,880 Nazmuth does some pretty kooky stuff. 646 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,280 I guess he had a fairly successful solo career after this, unlike the other guys. 647 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:18,280 Yeah. 648 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:19,280 A lot of interesting ideas. 649 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:24,680 I don't know if it works too well as like a monkey's record, but it's cool and it's 650 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:25,680 kind of in regard. 651 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:30,360 I think that was it, like the first couple of monkey's records were boring. 652 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,960 Like yesterday had a couple of hits that I enjoyed. 653 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:40,880 Like there's some great songs that are written by Carole King and Neil Diamond and all these 654 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,880 luminaries of songwriting at the time. 655 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,000 So there's some really good songs, but this one was weird. 656 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,000 It was. 657 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,000 It was weird. 658 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:53,040 I don't know if this will be what they're remembered for, but definitely a little interesting 659 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,000 nugget of history for sure. 660 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,000 All right. 661 00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:00,080 So why don't we continue on and listen to a little bit of writing and wrongs. 662 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:16,400 Yeah, that could have been a song by the band or something, you know? 663 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:17,400 Yeah. 664 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:23,960 So that's one of the kind of psychedelic moments and that's provided by Michael Nazmuth. 665 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:30,360 There's a really sort of long, noisy instrumental section in the middle that's kind of free 666 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:31,360 form. 667 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:36,400 The three words I chose for the album, you guys already alluded to this, but I said unleash 668 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:41,280 the Nazmuth because I really think it's his tracks that stand out for me. 669 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:46,400 I mean, other than obviously Daydream Believer is just an amazing hit song, but I found myself 670 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,560 drawn to this song. 671 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,660 Andy already mentioned Andy's Municipal Court. 672 00:37:51,660 --> 00:37:55,320 There's Tapioca Tundra, which is a great name for a song. 673 00:37:55,320 --> 00:38:01,440 There's also that weird sort of Western-y, lo-fi Magnolia Sims song. 674 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:06,880 And so, I mean, Nazmuth has, I think, credit for, or songwriting credits for four of the 675 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:07,880 songs. 676 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,840 I think he's the only, I think Davy Jones co-wrote maybe two of the songs. 677 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:16,000 But yeah, it seems like he's somebody that's just on the brink of really finding himself 678 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:20,320 creatively and he's expressing himself a bit here. 679 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:25,880 He was an established musician before the Monkeys casting, as was Peter Tork. 680 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,600 The other two, Davy and Mickey, were actors primarily. 681 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:34,000 So it's not surprising that Peter Tork got frustrated and left because he was like a 682 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:39,960 folk rock guy and Nazmuth has the most creative stuff. 683 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,920 But Dolan's really developed quickly as far as being an interesting musician. 684 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:49,640 Yeah, did you know Nazmuth co-wrote that different drum song, that Linda Ronson song? 685 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,040 There she is again, Linda Ronson. 686 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,680 And I think his mom invented... 687 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:55,680 Liquid paper. 688 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:56,680 White out. 689 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:57,680 Yeah. 690 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:58,680 Yep. 691 00:38:58,680 --> 00:38:59,680 What? 692 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:00,680 Yeah. 693 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:01,680 Yeah. 694 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,800 I thought you were just joking. 695 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:08,200 The album, I mentioned the low fidelity or lo-fi or whatever. 696 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:12,480 It actually, it reminded me of an album that came out around the same time, The Beach Boys' 697 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:13,560 Smiley Smile. 698 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:18,880 That had that really low fidelity approach, which I kind of hear a lot on this album. 699 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:25,400 I'm also reminded of Odyssey and Oracle, which was the album by the Zombies, which we did 700 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,280 several months ago. 701 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,880 This was more commercially successful than that album, but I don't think it's as artistically 702 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,920 good as that one. 703 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,600 Well, I think it's because of the non-unity. 704 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:42,360 There is some disjointedness because of the separation of powers here. 705 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:47,200 And I don't think Peter Tork, except for on Daydream Believer, which they recorded previously, 706 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,520 I don't see him anywhere on this record. 707 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,120 I don't think he did anything. 708 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:52,120 Yeah. 709 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,680 But I really admire the band for doing this. 710 00:39:55,680 --> 00:40:01,480 They could have just easily gone along with what was happening, have other people writing 711 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,280 songs for them that are these catchy pop tunes. 712 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,080 But they pushed it and did their own thing. 713 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,720 So I definitely admire that. 714 00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:14,440 Let's say white album light. 715 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:21,560 I really did dig that, and it's fun to see a boy band, a manufactured group, go ahead 716 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,680 and innovate and find their own voices. 717 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:29,400 Much like with a lot of the boy bands like NSYNC, off goes Justin Timberlake and does 718 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:34,600 some really interesting artistic R&B stuff that breaks the barriers and does things differently. 719 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:40,880 So these guys in these bands can't be discounted just because it might be a manufactured collection. 720 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,040 There's still a lot of talent in those groups. 721 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:48,880 So that was The Monkeys, The Birds, The Bees, and The Monkeys from 1968. 722 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:49,880 Go check it out. 723 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,600 Do you think Davy Jones had a locker in his dressing room? 724 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,080 I think he slept in it. 725 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,080 Because he's so tiny. 726 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,080 Because he's short. 727 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,080 Yes. 728 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,080 It's because I'm short. 729 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,080 Okay. 730 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:12,120 Well, I suspect this was maybe a sort of a challenging experience for us, but it seems 731 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,160 like we all kind of enjoyed ourselves. 732 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,160 What did you learn this week? 733 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:20,640 I mean, kind of what I said in the last segment, a little bit about the creativity and the 734 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,840 development of some of these people. 735 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:28,360 They're talented singers, sometimes musicians, sometimes developing the talented songwriters 736 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,080 and discounting them because of the boy band thing. 737 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:36,040 Also, I think there's, it's just pop music, the boy bands, the NSYNCs and all that, pop 738 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,400 music of the time. 739 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:43,000 And I think there's a lot of backlash because of jealousy, because men don't like it when 740 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,680 women give attention to other guys. 741 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,080 There's so much anger and hate about it. 742 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,560 It's not like, oh, I'm not into New Kids on the Block or Backstreet Boys or NSYNC. 743 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,720 It'd be, they're NSYNC. 744 00:41:55,720 --> 00:41:57,280 There had to be anger behind it. 745 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:02,360 And I think it's a jealousy of young men having success and adulation and you don't. 746 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:08,720 I really do think there's a gut reaction that at least males in America have where they 747 00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:12,760 hate it, even though it's just pop music, but they hate it. 748 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:17,400 I think part of that might be something that K-pop is kind of leaning into a little bit 749 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:22,920 more, which is bringing out sort of the less masculine side of a boy group, maybe making 750 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,200 a little more feminized, a little more emotional. 751 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,960 So I think, I mean, that's obviously in the US boy groups as well. 752 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:30,960 I think girls love that. 753 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,480 I mean, an emotional cute boy is like a dream. 754 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:35,720 That's what you want. 755 00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:36,720 Wow. 756 00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:38,680 You should see the look on Andy's face right now. 757 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,760 He's glowing talking about this. 758 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,720 No, I think that's kind of the secret sauce of the boy group is hitting those emotional 759 00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:49,840 notes, but still also being a good dancer and a good looking guy. 760 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:50,840 Sounds like the three of us. 761 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:51,840 Yeah, right? 762 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:52,840 No, I think it's cool. 763 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:59,520 I really did kind of enjoy, to my surprise, a lot of these records were pretty fun to 764 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:00,520 listen to. 765 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:06,240 I convinced myself to just focus less on the group, but focus on all the people involved 766 00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:09,240 in making these albums. 767 00:43:09,240 --> 00:43:13,560 So it's not the three Jonas Brothers, it's the Jonas Brothers and 15 other people that 768 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:20,920 are making decisions in the studio to make these kind of perfectly constructed pop songs. 769 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,520 And yeah, I mean, it's still art. 770 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:29,360 I mean, it's meant for popular consumption, but there's some expression going on. 771 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:30,360 There's creativity. 772 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:31,360 And hard work. 773 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:32,360 Yeah, absolutely. 774 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:33,360 Yeah. 775 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,600 No, yeah, I think these guys, they really live their professions. 776 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,760 Like they're if they're not learning new songs or learning new dances or promoting their 777 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:40,760 shit. 778 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,880 Like it's a it's a lifestyle you got to really commit to. 779 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:49,880 And that's one to go. 780 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:54,880 I'm your density. 781 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,360 I mean, your destiny. 782 00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,200 All right, boys and girls. 783 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,760 It's time once again to gather around the wheel of musical destiny here and see what 784 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,920 fate has in store for us next week. 785 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,920 Wad Bots back. 786 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,640 All right. 787 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:21,280 It is time to make devil horns with your hands as your musical destiny is to explore albums 788 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,160 by artists that were featured on MTV's Headbangers Ball. 789 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,800 Try not to hurt yourselves with all that head banging. 790 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:29,800 Headbangers Ball. 791 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:30,800 It's like a 180. 792 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:31,800 All right. 793 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:32,800 Cool. 794 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:37,240 The wheel has definitely shaken things up because this is very different. 795 00:44:37,240 --> 00:44:38,520 OK, a quick reminder. 796 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:44,920 Don't forget to cast your votes for two albums that are on the Albiners Hall of Fame fence. 797 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,320 T-Rex's Electric Warrior and Michael Jackson's Off the Wall. 798 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,320 Go to albiners.com or albiners.com slash discord to cast your votes. 799 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,000 Please do vote yay or nay. 800 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,000 OK, who's your favorite boy band? 801 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,700 Did you watch Headbangers Ball? 802 00:44:57,700 --> 00:44:58,700 What else are you listening to? 803 00:44:58,700 --> 00:44:59,700 Let us know. 804 00:44:59,700 --> 00:45:03,560 Join fellow album nerds on discord at albumnerds.com slash discord. 805 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,800 You can email us at podcast at albumnerds.com. 806 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,640 Follow us on Facebook and Instagram at Album Nerds. 807 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,800 Also please subscribe, rate and review on your favorite podcast app. 808 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:17,120 And if you'd like to support the show, you can do so via PayPal at albumnerds.com slash 809 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,120 support. 810 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,600 Thank you once again for listening to the Album Nerds podcast. 811 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,240 We enjoyed having you. 812 00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:23,240 Bye bye bye. 813 00:45:23,240 --> 00:45:25,760 Talk to you next week about some Headbangers Ball. 814 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,320 Thanks for listening, everybody. 815 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:28,320 See you. 816 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:35,000 You are my fire, my one. 817 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,000 How long should I go? 818 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,000 You're done. 819 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:42,280 Do you even say goodbye anymore or do you just try and showcase your voice on the end 820 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:43,280 of every show? 821 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:44,280 I'm working up a ranch out. 822 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,280 It's like an audition for the singer. 823 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:57,200 I'm the nesmith of the show.