1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,440 Hi everyone, welcome to pot luck food talks. 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,680 Today we have for the first time, Sander with us. 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:11,560 Hello, hello. 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:18,200 Sander is a producer of the show and also partly guilty of creating this concept and 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:19,880 this space to talk about food. 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:20,960 Hi, Sander, how are you doing? 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:21,960 I'm good. 8 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:27,360 I'm happy to finally be on the show and not only behind it. 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:32,880 Sander has a background as a filmmaker and he works on food commercials. 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:34,880 And that's the reason we have him today. 11 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:40,400 We're going to talk about food movies, food film, great movies with great food scenes. 12 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,400 So what are your thoughts on that? 13 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,160 What are my thoughts on movies about food? 14 00:00:46,160 --> 00:00:49,920 I think food is a lot about story. 15 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:55,760 Every dish, everything in life has to do with, I don't know, a mom cooking a soup for their 16 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:02,680 sick child or like a guy making some dessert, you know, for the lady he's trying to impress. 17 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:08,640 And I think, I mean, amazing food movies, they have amazing food photography, but I 18 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:13,640 mean, especially, you know, putting it into like some context, I think there's some very 19 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,400 memorable movies about food for sure. 20 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:23,840 Well, also to mention Sander and I, we've been friends like for 30 years already, probably. 21 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:24,840 Yeah. 22 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,320 I always say that our parents knew each other before we were even born. 23 00:01:28,320 --> 00:01:30,800 So yeah, we hung out a lot. 24 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:38,520 We lived together and while Sander was still studying to become a filmmaker, we were living 25 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:44,280 together and we were working on a movie script about cooks. 26 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,100 So we were brainstorming a lot what would be interesting to do. 27 00:01:48,100 --> 00:01:51,880 And at that time we watched a lot of culinary movies. 28 00:01:51,880 --> 00:02:00,720 I also remember that we wrote a few scenes that we completely discarded them after Ratatouille 29 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:07,600 came out because it had two specific scenes, exactly the concept and the way we had thought 30 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:08,600 of it. 31 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:09,600 Do you want to talk about it? 32 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:15,680 But first, I guess it's important or interesting to say you had just started your adventure 33 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:16,680 as a cook. 34 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,980 I had just started an adventure studying film. 35 00:02:18,980 --> 00:02:21,120 This was 2007. 36 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:28,000 So I think we had already lived outside our homes for two years and you were completely 37 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,000 excited. 38 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:33,960 You had all these crazy stories and I was studying film and I was excited about doing 39 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:34,960 some things. 40 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:39,400 So I wanted to tell stories about those things you were telling me. 41 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:44,960 And I guess all these outrageous things that you were telling me that were super interesting, 42 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:50,200 how these fine dining kitchens work and how crazy the characters inside it are. 43 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:51,920 And I mean we're always film buffs. 44 00:02:51,920 --> 00:02:56,400 I think we always watched all its per se movies like I don't know, casino and stuff. 45 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:01,800 And we wanted to take these movie genres that we know and love and just take it into the 46 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:02,800 cooking world. 47 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,040 And for sure we started like writing some scenes. 48 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:07,720 And yeah, this was 2007. 49 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,960 I think the same year Ratatouille came out and when we went to the cinema, there were 50 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:16,840 at least two scenes that you know, they nailed exactly some scenes that we were writing and 51 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:17,840 it was kind of like, no. 52 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:25,360 But I guess, I mean, it's probably common sense because these are very common space 53 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:26,720 feelings. 54 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:31,040 One was, I would say that's the most iconic scene of the movie. 55 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,980 Both of them I think, scenes or moments. 56 00:03:33,980 --> 00:03:41,520 So one is when this food critic eats something and he gets like an instant flashback to his 57 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,060 childhood where his grandmother is cooking. 58 00:03:44,060 --> 00:03:48,960 We had the exact same concept for that interaction in that moment. 59 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:53,080 But it's probably because we have felt the same thing many times in our lives. 60 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:57,480 When you try something that reminds you of your childhood, I guess everybody has experienced 61 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:58,480 that. 62 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:05,400 And the other one was the moment when the chef eats like two different flavors and I 63 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:11,400 think like something like fruit holograms appear in front of him and he mixes them like 64 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,600 flavor combinations or something like that, right? 65 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:18,040 Obviously, it being Pixar, they made it in a way that was much cooler than we would have 66 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:19,040 ever imagined. 67 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,400 So yeah, I remember him eating, I don't know, some cheeses or like some- 68 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:24,880 You mean cheese and grapes? 69 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,800 Cheese and grapes, but like first he has like the cheese and then he has the nutty flavors 70 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,640 of blinded, he grabs it and it's like, you know, in the air around him, like all these 71 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:38,720 colors and then he eats the other flavor and then it becomes like this animation of this 72 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,560 mixture of flavors. 73 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:46,080 And hey, I remember us talking a lot about taking weird things that fit together and 74 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:51,600 yeah, that was again something where obviously Pixar found a way of visually describing a 75 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,400 mixture of flavors, which was mind blowing for us at that time. 76 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,120 Well, also a few things to mention about that movie. 77 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:03,360 Not everybody knows that the culinary consultant for this movie was Thomas Keller. 78 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,360 Thomas Keller, yeah. 79 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:13,840 And also the French chef Gusteau is inspired in Bernard Loiseau, who was a major figure 80 00:05:13,840 --> 00:05:19,800 in the New York cuisine and also like, especially in the nineties, he was like a super famous 81 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,600 chef in France. 82 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:26,320 And yeah, he kind of looks like him, like the face and everything. 83 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,200 Jacques Cousteau, no, not Jacques Cousteau, something Cousteau. 84 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:30,200 Yeah, exactly. 85 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:37,960 I think another super cool and super iconic food scene is garlic slicing in prison and 86 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:38,960 good fellas. 87 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:40,120 Oh yeah, for sure. 88 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:41,120 That is a classic. 89 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:42,120 Yeah. 90 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:46,760 I think Antony Bourdain would reference that scene a lot, like in a lot of his writing 91 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,840 and food shows and everything. 92 00:05:48,840 --> 00:05:50,680 Everyone uses it as reference. 93 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:55,120 I think people know exactly how to slice garlic because of that scene. 94 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:56,120 Yeah. 95 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:02,000 Also in this line of American Italian movies, there is this movie that I also watched while 96 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,120 we were writing movie scenes. 97 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:08,020 I didn't watch it, but I definitely have to put it on my watch list. 98 00:06:08,020 --> 00:06:11,280 It's called Big Night by Stanley Tucci. 99 00:06:11,280 --> 00:06:14,760 The movie is not specially a great movie. 100 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:21,520 Also the, well, the food scene is really nice and they cook like a secret home recipe called 101 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:27,160 timpano, which is an Italian American dish and it's a large baked pasta drum filled with 102 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,520 layers of pasta, meatballs, sausages, eggs, cheese, tomatoes. 103 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:37,000 So it's like kind of like a lasagna, but all like in a drum shaped thing. 104 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,720 So that was also pretty cool. 105 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,480 It sounds deliciously nasty. 106 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:49,800 And I will say if we talk about serious movies like high cinema and a movie that portrays 107 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:57,000 feelings of the culinary craft and all these kinds of things, I would say Babette's Fest 108 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,280 is my favorite one. 109 00:06:58,280 --> 00:07:01,920 I think the movie even won on a best foreign film Oscar. 110 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:09,620 And it's a story about like in the 1900s, a French female chef that is running away 111 00:07:09,620 --> 00:07:10,760 from Paris. 112 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:15,520 She probably did something, but I think in the movies never revealed what. 113 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:23,800 So she hides in a small village in Denmark and she learns to cook from the Danish and 114 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,840 she also at the end has the opportunity to cook for them. 115 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:32,840 And it's this kind of like culture shock, but also I think there are a lot of values 116 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:38,640 that a chef looks for in his career that are very well portrayed in this movie. 117 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:43,680 No, if you want to talk about like movies where you show every side and story and element 118 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,320 of food, I think anyone should watch Tampopo. 119 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,000 Oh, amazing movie. 120 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,000 Yeah. 121 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:55,320 I think Tampopo, the interesting thing, and I'm going to leave the whole like cinematography 122 00:07:55,320 --> 00:08:01,320 or whatever out, but I mean, this is the only movie that I know or the only piece of art 123 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:06,240 that I know that shows every aspect of food in any moment. 124 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:11,940 I mean, like the main story is like these guys want to help Tampopo to save her ramen 125 00:08:11,940 --> 00:08:14,600 shop and make better noodles, make better broth. 126 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,680 So they call it a Western ramen. 127 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:18,680 Ramen Western. 128 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,320 Ramen Western instead of spaghetti Western. 129 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:22,320 Exactly. 130 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:26,720 So, you know, you have the lone ranger who comes into town and he helps the town or it 131 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:32,040 saves the day by helping Tampopo, you know, make a really good ramen and save a ramen 132 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:33,040 shop. 133 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:37,400 But then you have all these slices, all these little scenes in between that has nothing 134 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:38,880 to do with the main story. 135 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:43,640 It is like from the beginning that you start with, like you're in the cinema and the people 136 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:48,240 are about to watch the movie we're going to watch and how, you know, even in cinema, you 137 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,440 know, snacks and food is part of the watching experience. 138 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,220 But then they're already telling you to eat quiet because I'm going to watch the movie. 139 00:08:55,220 --> 00:08:57,640 And then there's this amazing scene. 140 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:03,040 I think that's one of my favorite ones in the movie where this old lady goes into a 141 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,680 supermarket and she has a fetish with squeezing things. 142 00:09:06,680 --> 00:09:11,480 So she squeezes the ripe peaches or like the soft cheeses. 143 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,040 And you know, she's obviously destroying the food because she's like squeezing it in her 144 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:19,900 hands and then the guy who works at the supermarket starts chasing her because he obviously doesn't 145 00:09:19,900 --> 00:09:21,560 want her to keep squeezing these things. 146 00:09:21,560 --> 00:09:25,040 And it's a thing that you can relate with so much that like, yeah, obviously food is 147 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:30,400 about texture and soft balls and you just want to put it in your mouth or in your hands. 148 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:35,680 Also the cultural thing about Chure, there's this one scene where there's this mother of 149 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:39,800 a family and she's dying and you know, the father and the kids are around her and the 150 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,360 doctor is there. 151 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,520 And I think the dad, the father, he doesn't know what to do. 152 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,800 So he just tells her to make dinner. 153 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:52,040 And the woman, like she stands up and she makes rice and makes a dinner for the family 154 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,960 and then the family eats while she's just there watching them. 155 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,360 And once the family has eaten, she drops dead. 156 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,880 You know, the function of the mother in this society is making food. 157 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,720 So she has to sort of like cook before she drops the head away. 158 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:11,940 Or you have a, there's a scene about this group of Japanese ladies who are learning 159 00:10:11,940 --> 00:10:14,360 how to properly eat pasta. 160 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,840 Oh yeah, which is like a protocol class, right? 161 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:24,680 There is this super Westernized Japanese guy explaining them how to behave properly and 162 00:10:24,680 --> 00:10:25,680 this kind of thing. 163 00:10:25,680 --> 00:10:26,680 Exactly. 164 00:10:26,680 --> 00:10:29,360 And how you, you should never make a sound while you're eating. 165 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:34,440 And then right next to them, there's this, you know, fat old white guy who's slurping 166 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:40,840 away like, and then like all these ladies, you know, stop paying attention to this etiquette 167 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:45,440 master and just start enjoying the food and slurping and just like not giving a fuck about 168 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:46,440 the etiquette. 169 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,520 Yeah, because slurping is part of ramen culture. 170 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,080 You have to slurp if you're ramen. 171 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:51,080 Yeah. 172 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,920 I mean, this movie is, if you want to dig into what food is and what food can be and 173 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:56,920 how food affects culture and... 174 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:57,920 Absolutely. 175 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:04,040 I think it's a great example of good old classic naive and cartoony Japanese humor, but at 176 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:09,000 the same time, all the food scenes are very well thought and are very well representative 177 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,280 of Japanese food. 178 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:15,600 So if you look about what they're doing, I remember at the beginning, there is this lady 179 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:16,600 with, is it Tampopo? 180 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:17,600 I'm not sure. 181 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:26,480 It has this sukemono, like Japanese pickles in a rice bran, which is like a specific elaboration. 182 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:32,080 And you see, it's funny because it's like this Western where, with this tough lone rangers 183 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:37,080 that walk into a bar and it's like a tough bar, but it's a ramen bar and they're looking 184 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:42,040 the way they cook and the mistakes they do if the water is not boiling properly or if 185 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,700 the stock is not at point. 186 00:11:44,700 --> 00:11:50,600 And then they start making like this benchmarking of the different ramen bars in the city to 187 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:51,840 see which one is the best. 188 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:57,160 And it becomes like a heist film, like Oceans 11 of ramen, like the team gets together and 189 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,800 every person in the group is like a specialist in something else. 190 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,000 So one knows about the broth, one knows about the past then. 191 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,400 So they also go and steal secret recipes from other restaurants. 192 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:08,880 From the competitors, exactly. 193 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:13,600 They walk into the competitors to see how they do it, which is also like a common place 194 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:18,320 for a chef that wants to open a restaurant, something many of us have done many times. 195 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:24,360 And to end, I would say another super nice food movie because there are a lot of movies 196 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:33,200 that are famous and many of them, like I've watched many of these movies that try to portray 197 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,360 the paths of a chef and they're very fake. 198 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:43,680 You see this chef like completely clean and they don't know how to properly hold a knife 199 00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:46,800 and the dynamics you see in the kitchen are not realistic. 200 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,080 So that's quite annoying. 201 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:54,760 But another two good examples I wanted to mention, one was a Taiwanese movie called 202 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,640 Eat, Drink, Man, Woman. 203 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,240 It's from the nineties. 204 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:05,800 And the intro of this movie, I think it's the best cooking scene ever portrayed in the 205 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:06,800 cinema. 206 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:07,800 It's so simple. 207 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:08,800 It's just a man making dumplings. 208 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:13,440 Yeah, but if you see the skills of this man, like chopping vegetables and doing different 209 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:20,160 things and it's so pleasurable and the sounds you feel in the scene, it feels like anyone 210 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:26,360 who has worked in prep cooking will get that feeling of prep cooking, you know, where the 211 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:31,240 kitchen is quiet and the only thing you hear is like the cooking sounds and there is not 212 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,800 the stress of service where everything has to be quick and everybody's screaming. 213 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,480 And that moment is very, very well portrayed. 214 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:44,160 I think also something that you said about like movies we hate about food is and I guess 215 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,920 you can say, okay, there's movies about food where it's more like home cooking, like a 216 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:52,280 very skilled person is cooking at home and they're making really nice dishes. 217 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,420 And there are things you could call like restaurant movies. 218 00:13:55,420 --> 00:13:59,400 And what I hate and I mean, unfortunately, what the tweet kind of goes into that direction 219 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:05,360 as well is the whole the critic is the most important villain of the thing. 220 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,480 Like it almost seems like these characters are only motivated by, you know, getting the 221 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,720 Michelin stars or whatever. 222 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:12,720 Which is realistic. 223 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,840 You will see that you will see this kind of attitude and Michelin star restaurant. 224 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:22,440 Because I mean, I remember that when we were writing our cute little food film, you had 225 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:28,560 this character that said like, hey, as cooks or this particular character said like, hey, 226 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,200 I come from nothing. 227 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:31,360 I'm very uneducated. 228 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:36,520 The only thing I know how to do is cooking, so I really want to, you know, if I want to 229 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:40,400 be someone in this world, I really want to, you know, elevate my cooking skills and take 230 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,520 it to the highest for possible. 231 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,200 But I don't give a fuck about stars and about, you know, awards. 232 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:46,200 You see everything. 233 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:50,960 But I mean, like the character of the chef of stars with stars is not like something 234 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:51,960 made up. 235 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,680 I know, of course, of course. 236 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:57,560 But that's why I think one of the and you haven't watched it and I tried to convince 237 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:02,640 you to watch it because I think in a way the essence of this new show catches a little 238 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:07,000 bit what we were trying to go for 15 years ago, which is the show, The Bear. 239 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,800 OK, let's make a deal. 240 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:15,840 I'll watch The Bear and well, when we should both watch this Hannibal Lecter series that 241 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,040 was for sure. 242 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:18,040 Yeah. 243 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:22,200 The main consultant for this series was Jose Andres. 244 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:23,200 Oh, OK. 245 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:24,200 Wow. 246 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:29,600 Yeah, he was the advisor of how to cook humans for this series. 247 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:30,600 And he would do like... 248 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:31,600 It's lazy. 249 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:38,040 Yeah, like because, you know, the character Hannibal Lecter is this super Bon vivant gourmet 250 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,380 guy who knows a lot of about food. 251 00:15:40,380 --> 00:15:47,760 So he would do like this super obscure, ancient, sophisticated French dishes with his victims 252 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,120 advised by Jose Andres. 253 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:53,440 I mean, it must be so crazy that, you know, you get a phone call from a production company 254 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:57,880 and they tell you like, listen up, you have a couple of weeks to think about, you know, 255 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:03,200 what would be the best way of cooking humans or like what organs would you use to make 256 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,520 like really tasty seafood and dishes? 257 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:11,840 Yeah, sounds like a fun project to do. 258 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,900 That's it for this week's episode of Potluck Food Talks. 259 00:16:14,900 --> 00:16:18,760 If you like what we're doing, make sure to subscribe to the podcast so you never miss 260 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:20,020 an episode. 261 00:16:20,020 --> 00:16:24,000 You can also find us on Instagram and TikTok as Potluck Food Talks. 262 00:16:24,000 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