Night 2 of WrestleMania 41 is in the books. It
is done. We are still in Las Vegas, of course.
We are staying for Monday Night Raw and then
we heading out Tuesday morning. I don't know
how it came across on television, but boy was
night two an all -timer in the building at Allegiant
Stadium. Welcome to the TFW podcast. That's Rick
and Rustlin. No numbers. If you listen to the
WrestleMania pre -show, you know why I'm not
naming these because we will get to 202 quick
and we ain't started playing that show yet. We
gonna name this WrestleMania Right 190 some WrestleMania
night to reaction pod Best kept secret in wrestling
podcast is the TFW podcast you guys know me I
am your favorite talker out here in these wrestling
streets Matt joined by that beautiful woman over
there my wife Rhodesia we are a only Running
two people today one is because of the significant
time difference from Vegas. And each time he
was usually with us, he got to go to work and
do all that kind of stuff. But I think even if
this was regular Eastern Standard Time for E,
he would have found a way to not been on this
podcast. This podcast for all of my day one TFW
podcast listeners, this is going to be very similar
to two years ago, night two. WrestleMania 39
in Los Angeles when I came on this podcast and
I believe in January or February. I told everybody,
guys, I got a feeling Cody Rhodes is not beating
Roman Reigns at WrestleMania. And I was kind
of laughed out of the building at that point.
What do you mean? What are you talking about?
There's no way. This is his time. He's got to
finish his story. And I remember coming back.
On that podcast and letting the gunshots go over
it is you remember that night? Told you so probably
I told you so as we get It probably was about
15, maybe I told you so But what I will do because
I have grown since then Right. I am much more
mature than I was then Much more mature than
I was then I'm just going to do one gunshot And
just say I told you so That's all just one just
one gun shot so I told you so so humble actually
Maybe more we'll see but What a night what a
night I tweeted After the show That if I didn't
have some size on me, I'm sure somebody probably
try to test their luck Yep, because I was going
hard on the Cody fans in the crowd after John
Cena won his historic 17th World Championship.
for real, for real. And I was gonna say, fuck
it, let's go, let's all go down together. And
you got Matt, who has some size on them too.
And he's being, usually I'm like, Matt, calm
down, calm down a little bit. Nah, he's going
into, then he started bringing in like, AEW haters,
like, whoa, where did this come from? Like both
of y 'all was on one last night. And I was like,
F it, let's do it. Let's do it together as a
family. We all going down as a family. I was
ready to go. But what got me the most irritated
is you got all these people in these John Cena
shirts. They ain't gonna spend $40 minimum to
buy a new John Cena shirt. Why y 'all look like
y 'all lost our best friend at the end of WrestleMania?
Undercover Cody Rose fans. So many John Cena
shirts, right? Until it was time. Until it was
time. Until it was time. And Santa Claus ain't
real. And that shit pisses me off because I'm
like, aw, aw, that's a spoiler, man. We can't
do that. Oh, my bad. You right. I'm joking. Boy,
it wasn't real. He may be real later on this
year or something, but Santa Claus ain't real.
John Cena crushed everybody's hopes and dreams.
I also said on the WrestleMania preview pod that
there was some thoughts about, you know, the
crowd being very similar kind of to Rock Hogan
from WrestleMania 18, right? 18, 17? And what
I can say is I was talking to everybody who went
to WrestleMania. This is I think our 13th WrestleMania
weekend. We've gone to we've been to and But
we've been I've been really on social media for
the last couple years, you know like daily, right?
You are on social media more of course than you
are at any show But what I can say is if you
can get to a show and this goes for any show
TNA AW New Japan WWE if you can get to any show
and just enjoy yourself, do that. It is just
such a stark contrast from online. And even if
you don't see a ton of negativity online, it
is just completely different. Like inside of
that building, that was the closest environment
that I had seen to Rock and Hogan at Mania. than
any other match. Now, if you're talking match
quality, the match does not come close to what
Hogan and Rock did, you know, 20 plus years ago
or whenever that was. But it's not about when
you're in it, when you're in it, when you're
there. It's not about the moves. It's not about
the match quality. It is strictly vibes, environment,
and how you are feeling in that moment. We came
on yesterday, Rudy, and we talked about the crowd
from night one to night two. And I brought up,
you know, maybe the monetary situation. I think
that was still a part of it. Uh, we also talked
about the crowd yeeted itself out on night one
and then it wasn't much to get the crowd going
again until the main event. I made a quick note
and it was funny because I made a note and then
we watched the press conference last night and
Triple H made a comment on it and damn they're
using the same words I use. But night two was
about putting the pedal to the floor from match
one until the main event, because from a wrestling
match perspective, the main event was not going
to deliver. If you're only looking at it for
holds and moves and what a quote unquote WrestleMania
main event is supposed to be and going to be,
the match probably didn't deliver. Inside the
building, you couldn't have told anybody that
because I don't know how I came across on TV,
but there wasn't a second where the crowd was
not on their feet watching and being involved
in what they saw. In hindsight though, 91 was
about taking the foot off the gas until the main
event because outside of Yeeting, the biggest
thing to remember from 91 was going to be Seth
Rollins, Paul Heyman business and just how tremendous
that triple threat. Main event was so there was
two different schools of thought so from a quality
of product perspective You can get some of the
philosophy now if you're in the show Like I said,
it ain't buy one get one free tickets, right?
So if you only went to night one, it looks like
there was a lot of people Who only went to one
night, which was kind of surprising to me like
that? Yeah kind of surprising to me so um, but
I don't think anybody who went who was in the
building night one felt like They weren't happy
with what they got, but you could tell a difference.
You could tell a difference from, uh, and of
course we'll get into the show with our women's
match. And then, you know, after that, and after
that completely different type of show, if you
had to pick one show to say that was a WrestleMania
show, it was night two. You got so many moments
in 91, but night two in the building, all timer.
Agreed. I was thinking about like how different
a day makes. And again, it's not buy one, get
one free. It's buy one and get one for the same
price that you pay for the night before. That's
really what it is. Or you get to keep the same
seats. You buy two together. A BOGO, right? But
you look at, as far as night two, just when I
talked about On Our Pie yesterday, I don't even
know what day it is now. When I talk about it
after night one, I had said that your book game
matches As far as being there live is exciting,
all the fields of mania, you have some good spots,
but I get good spots on regular television. I
get good spots on regular PLEs. This is what
I was talking about. I was saying like, I need
mania matches. You know, the street fight, which
I actually didn't even watch the whole street
fight because I had left the seats, but that
street fight felt like a mania street fight.
You know, so. Each match that we watch, and then
maybe against AJ Styles and Logan Paul, I did
not watch that match at all. Maybe that had some
elements of mania, but I guess Logan Paul himself
could be considered a mania feel. But to me,
every single match that I watched last night
all delivers some type of mania feel, mania vibe
to the match itself. Like to me, WrestleMania
night two so far surpassed Mania night one. And
again, we're not going to talk about as far as
though the workers or the talent themselves.
I'm just as a card, as a show, as a production.
Night two blew night one out of the water. And
anybody who thought that the actual main event
of night two was going to be work heavy. Cena
came on and told y 'all, I'm about to crush this
stuff. I'm at the end wrestling. You're pro wrestling.
Like no one should have gone in there and thought
that he was actually about to do. move after
move after move after move after move. You mentioned
as far as, well, I didn't. And you mentioned
talking about, you know, icon versus icon back
from WrestleMania 18. I don't remember not one
single move they did in that, in that match.
I just remember how I felt seeing the old and
the present. The old and the present and how
their two fan bases, these generational talents,
these people who elevated this wrestling business
to the next level. in their own respective right,
going head to head. I don't remember anything
else about that match. I think I had asked you
yesterday, I forgot who actually won the match,
but that's the same vibe that I got here. The
reason why I remember who won the match is because
Cena broke, he made history. He broke Ric Flair
record. But to me, like night two was everything.
And I would probably feel being at both, I probably
would have been like, dang, like I've missed
out if I didn't go to WrestleMania night two.
We so I brought that the guy who was behind us
the two guys and they was on one on night one
They were looking they were much more subdued
on night two. I don't know they I think there
was a drink night one. It was just chilling But
uh, so they were from the UK and I think they
had on Cody's shirt. I'm not mistaken And yo,
I was in almost shed a tear I'm gonna shed a
tear yesterday Austin comes out to announce the
the figure, you know, the attendance figure and
anybody who's been listening knows that's like
my goal. He's the reason why I cut my hair bald
back in high school when he broke his neck. I'm
like, I'm cutting my hair until Austin comes
back. And then the look just for me just stuck.
So I never grew my hair back. But to hear that
glass break and he comes out, I don't give a
damn what he did. It was we got a chance to see
him and hear him. So you go from that. to go
right to Cody and Cena. So I was talking to the
guys behind us and I was on one. Of course, I'm
a Cody fan, but this is John Cena. This is Seventeen.
I am going to rile up the people around me. I'm
going to do that whole thing. So I'm doing that
whole thing. Cody sucks. I'm screaming and all
that. So the guy behind me, I think he starts
like a Cody Rose chant. And then I turn around
and we just start having a quick conversation.
And he's like me. He's just like... Dude, like,
how cool is this? Like, look what we're, and
I told him, I was like, man, look what we're
experiencing. I'm like, we go from Austin. And
I guess that was like his go -to. And, uh, it
was funny. He's like, man, if you ever want to
break into any of my passwords, it's Austin316.
Like, you ever find any of my stuff? That's my
password. And, uh, you know, so during, during
Cody and Cena, you got, you know, two just fans
of this thing, you know, who are, you know, for
them, they're traveling from the UK to get to
WrestleMania. to see history. You know, and that's
when like, that's, that's when this thing is
fun. When you just, you ain't worried about the
moves. Like I said, you know, you just sitting
there and you're in it and you're watching. And
at one point, it's probably about four or five
minutes into the match. Not much has been going
on, but a lot's happening. And I look up and
there was nobody sitting down. Exactly. In the
stadium. And you know, I, I tapped Rhodesia and
little man. I was just like, just look, they
aren't doing anything. and they have everybody
and this is after we've seen everything you guys
are the are the main event you know uh so just
so so much fun man but cena beats uh cody rhodes
with the help of travis scott no rock duane duane
duane now i was not Locked in on, oh, I'm only
showing up to WrestleMania to see The Rock. Okay,
that was not me. But what I will say is, do not
show up and involve yourself in the road to WrestleMania
if you are not going to be at WrestleMania. I
don't care if they hadn't brought him up again.
I don't care what the case is. You show up at
Chamber, run this storyline. We could have gotten
the John Cena He'll turn without the Rock being
involved. I don't even care if he shows up tonight
and we'll be in attendance at Raw. Do not show
up in the Road to WrestleMania build if you are
not going to be at WrestleMania. And I can only,
I can only probably think about how irritated
or pissed off Triple H is at times when it comes
to The Rock. I'm trying to set up my storylines,
my TV programming, and we get a phone call on
Dwayne saying he wants to get involved. I am
sure, because he can only say so much because
The Rock is Triple H's boss, I am sure when Dwayne
called Triple H a couple weeks before, we saw
him, you know, show up for the chamber build
and said, I want to be involved and, you know,
I'm not. I can't work a match with Cody this
year, but I still want to be involved at, you
know, chamber or whatever the case may be. I'm
sure at one, some point Triple H said, okay,
so what's the end game for Mania? Are you going
to be at Mania? And if that response was either,
no, I can't make it or we'll see. I can't imagine
how irritating that has to be for creative because
you have to leave things open for him. And we
thought the, the The appearance from The Rock
was tremendous leading up to the chamber. But
stay away if you can't be at Mania. This is WrestleMania.
So I think a lot of people, and we kind of talked
about that last night, the Finnish could have
come across and probably was anti -climactic
for the main event. You see Travis Scott. You're
just going to assume Travis Scott is going to
be accompanied by the Rock at some point. Because
how does Travis Scott, and I think we do see
some more probably with Travis tonight, potentially.
So we know that's not ending, but how does Travis
Scott be the only one that determines John Cena
winning the championship over Cody Rose after
a year -long title reign? He's not a wrestler.
He's not a wrestler. So that was a downer. That
was an absolute downer. And you just can't do
it. I'm sorry. You can't do it. Like, either
you're going to either in or out, right? That's
how I feel, either in or out. And I don't believe
in anything of, hey, just, you know, watch with
the rock. You know, what does he always say typically?
Be quiet and the ride, the rock brings you on
and that whole thing. Well, that ride should
have stopped at WrestleMania. and it did stop
and it went on and he was nowhere to be seen.
How, I'm not going to say irritated, but how
surprised were you? Or maybe you were irritated.
I really wasn't irritated. I was surprised. My
whole thing was just seeing Cena win. Like that
was the move. Now say if Cody would have won
and then we didn't get Rock. And it wouldn't
be because I'm not a Cody fan, but it would have
been like, we did all that for this? Like, yo,
where is the payoff? And to me, a crossroads
to Travis Scott is not enough of a payoff for
me to be like, cool, we got the payoff from elimination
chamber. I'm happy he got physical. I'm sure
the numbers are probably somewhere in the hundreds
of million dollar views or, you know, a hundred
million views at this point on social media and
et cetera, et cetera. But from a storyline perspective,
uh, but I guess he also was showing his hand
too. He showed up in that press conference and
said, yeah, you know, me and Cody may never have
to need to have a match. It was like, yo dude,
that's not the point of wrestling. Like a farmer,
farmer planting seeds. Say that and I think probably
a part of those people who were quiet that we
had on the John Cena shirts to probably a portion
of them were like Okay with that's what we got.
Like I thought there would be more the best way
that I could Parallel this to another filling
I had was when it was Brock versus Undertaker
when he broke the streak and To me there was
just no way that Brock was going to beat him
like at all. So when the The one, two, three
happened. I almost felt like, oh man, the Undertaker
get concussed. Like, did he not kick out in time?
Was there something else that was supposed to
happen? And I mean, for several minutes, as I'm
trying to think through what the hell just happened,
who knows how I even popped afterwards. I mean,
I knew I was angry, but then when you look at
last night, when he won and got the cover, like
to me, I was like, that was it. So people who
are at home watching it, you have seen an amazing
mania up until this point. Great storytelling,
great action, great entrances, all the good feels
that you would get from WrestleMania. And it
ends like that. I could see why some people would
be like, oh, that was, that was crappy. That
was sucky. I just knew that that pin was not
going to happen because the rock had to come
back. He had to. Like to me, that was, that was
the whole thing. And I remember coming on the
show a couple of months ago and I said even about
John Cena too. I'm like to John Cena and to Rock,
if you can't give us availability, us being the
fans, the fan base who watches every week, don't
insert yourself because there's people who are
doing it well. And I think I even said it, I've
never been the one person who, or the type of
person who said legends shouldn't come back.
I've never, I've never been that up until this
year. You know, there should be, I've always
said your biggest name, even if they're not an
active wrestler, they're part -time wrestlers.
No, they're putting you on the map. They're putting
exposure. They giving light to this product.
You should always want them to come back. But
when I'm so invested in a story and I'm so invested
in, I'm going to say poor Cody. Once again, yeah,
he got his, he got his payoff at Mania 40, but
it's just like, once again, This hill turn of
his he's gonna be able to pull from a lot when
he's finally able to get to it because I've All
I have been just is a good. Yes, man. I've been
flexible Between all these different people that
I'm working with Hell having in ring promo segments
for people who aren't even there That's not even
fair at that point so for me I did not feel irritated
was not the word again. I just felt like incomplete
but Because I'm such a huge John Cena fan. Because
I got to witness history. That made up for it,
and for, not for a second was I, after that,
like, damn, that's messed up that Rock didn't
come back. Like, if Rock shows up tonight, I'm
gonna boo him. Because, like, you just don't
do that. Because, like, you couldn't come last
night. Somebody was saying on the internet, because
he was still trying to figure out the Rubik's
Cube, that's why he couldn't make it to the Mania.
It's hilarious. I never picked up that Rubik's
Cube a couple weeks ago. That boy stuck. But
it's funny because, I mean, to your point about
Cena, that was the story. And so, okay, so this
is twofold. Number one, Rock should have been
there. Don't get involved if you can't show up
at WrestleMania. To me, that's number one. This
also now shows me why, and this is seeing this
what happens when You're real right when i get
my real authentic thoughts out here everything
is not skittles and rainbows or something happens
on another company it doesn't suck. I came out
here and said the first two weeks of scene is
your turn was horrendous. What now i kind of
know why it's horrendous there was no connection
to the actual hill turn itself. Because that's
not the payoff right like so if you look at right
now. Scene is two for four. We see what he does
tonight because he said tonight he's going to
start to ruin wrestling So we'll see what that
looks like but the first two promos I said was
disjointed It didn't make sense. It felt like
in a capsule was something he wrote ten years
ago that if he turned heel he could have cut
Had nothing to do with elimination chamber and
it had nothing to do with Cody Rose But now for
me, I kind of see why because now we know why
the Rock was never brought up again He wasn't
gonna be at WrestleMania. So don't bring them
up But what I did love about Cena and Cody, if
you go back to SmackDown's promo from this past
Friday, where Cena basically said, I don't have
to wrestle you to beat you. Like, you gotta wrestle
me. And he's saying, because I can take shortcuts.
Like, I don't have to wrestle anymore. Like,
and you need to figure out, Cody, who are you
gonna be? Basically, you're gonna be a man and
you're gonna cheat. or you're gonna try to do
it the right way and you're gonna lose. And they
had that spot. And that's the thing about Cena's
storytelling. Cena would kind of tell you, pay
attention to his promo. He's gonna tell you.
A couple years ago when it was him and Roman
at SummerSlam and his, the big storyline was,
I know you're better than me, but all I need
is three seconds. It's all I need is three seconds.
And I mean, it's kind of common sense, but I
remember telling Matt, I was like, the major
spot of that match is going to be a false finish,
because all I need is three seconds. And we got
that spot last night at WrestleMania with the
belt. What you gonna do, Cody? Cody couldn't
pull the trigger. Got kicked in the nuts for
it, and he lost. So that adds even more, to your
point, to the story arc and the character seeds
for Cody Rose. You could have easily used the
belt. Cause the referee was knocked out, but
you didn't. Now, if I really wanted to deep dive
it and we ain't not here for deep dives, I can
say, well, that time, one time you almost tried
to murder AJ Styles with the steel steps. When
you stun it on Sami and KO after you damn near
killed Kevin Owens and you stood on top both
of them with the belt, you got some of that mean
streak in you. You should have pulled the trigger
at WrestleMania and you did not. Whatever, right?
We don't have to get that deep into the... Didn't
he get like all like that after direction from
his mama and after the bell had rang? Well, his
mama was ringside this weekend, too. Yeah, evidently
she didn't tell him. She didn't tell him to do
it. I think because Liberty was there. I think
he was trying to be that commendable mentor in
life and role model that, hey, my dad can't hit
him with a belt. When you playing with the devil,
you gotta play these double games. So tremendous
tremendous year for Cody, right? I think it's
a testament for him testament for WWE that He
had to build for a year and nobody was really
clamoring for him to drop the title. It wasn't
like man He's holding up TV is holding up the
storyline. So that thing they did an awesome
job I'm excited to see now where he goes, you
know, how soon do we see him back on television?
And is it right to Cody is it somebody or a right
to the scene as somebody else but overall Thoroughly
happy with how the main event went. The night
itself, awesome. The entrances, like seeing it
coming out to just nothing, just his name in
white. Yo, what? And the entire stadium being
black, which is a polar opposite of Cody with
a million dollar budget of pyro and red, you
know, white and blue lights and sparkles and
everything. I thought that was, that was great
all the way overall. I'm personally happy with
it, how it went down. And now I'm excited. Now,
now we see the ride that they take us on for
Sina. But overall, E, wherever you are, man in
spirit, hopefully you still with us somewhere.
I sent him a text. He sent me back a gift. I'll
let him explain himself when he gets back on
his vibe in a few days. But I told you, I told
you, I broke it down. So anybody who was surprised
or shocked. You gotta tell them listen to TFW
podcast. I'd be giving up game. Anyway, Rhodesia,
let's move on to arguably the best opening match
in WrestleMania history. And you even added another
like caveat of it being an opening match. Yeah,
I know opening matches you have to usually start
off super hot. So you already at a higher level
of expectation, but just WrestleMania matches,
period. And I hate triple ways. I hate them.
I hate them. But you don't, because you got two.
Clearly I don't. You got two this weekend. God
damn, this is so good. And we could talk about
how people were booing Bianca and then the reasoning
behind why they booed her. Whatever right you
gonna hate I was looking at her and I'm like
y 'all just mad because y 'all can't be heard
for the guys What's the line people say that
your man wants to do me your girls want to be
me like I think that's all the reason why she's
getting hate I don't want to put other things
out there right now. I'm of what it could and
could not be but the three of them beautiful
and We didn't touch on it because you said we
was going to be nice on WrestleMania night one
on a couple of spots and some other matches.
But just the timing of the three of them, knowing
where everybody's going to be at when you hit
that moment. And when you add in that third person,
there's chaos. And I think that's probably why
me and maybe most people who don't like triple
ways is because usually it always feels like
there's one person out or you got it. You can
almost see the tiny, you can see the choreograph
and the dance. Sometimes it's kind of like take
you out of the field of, of the actual flow of
a match. These three wrestlers put on, they were
there when they needed to be there. All three,
the designs that just all the, I can't even,
I can't even articulate how amazing of a match
that we saw with them. And it wasn't a point
up, here's a couple of punches, here's a couple
of grabs and then suplex. No, like. It was such
a beautiful symphony that we saw when it first
opened and they know that they had us at the
stage. And they just overperformed. And I was
just so proud. I'm like, this is what, this is
what it is to be great at what you do. These
three women put on a hell of a match. They all
look beautiful. They all were over for the most
part. Even Bianca getting booed. You're still
over, right? I guess you're still getting booed.
You're still getting some interaction from the
crowd. My God, was that not some of the best
wrestling in professional wrestling, in WWE,
in mania that we've seen? And again, I don't
even want to call it a women's wrestling match.
That was one of my favorite wrestling matches
ever. I say it was going to be a match of the
year candidate. It even exceeded that expectation.
Legit, when I tell you, I know a lot of people,
if you've been watching wrestling for a long
time, kind of go right to Bretton Owen. WrestleMania
10 as an opener I Get anybody who feels like
that's that's their their answer For my money.
It's this This is the one By far And if you were
in the building for it and that's that's what
it is for for some reason this show Came across
differently for me a lot of times like if you're
in the building for A wrestling show. The energy
course helps. The impact of the moves are different.
You know, you get the pomp and circumstance,
you get the music, you get the pirate, you get
all that. But it was something about this particular
show. That what I'm seeing on in front of me.
I'm like, I know it's not coming across as well
as it. should on television. And that is even
with the top notch production for W2B. It's not
cause they missed a camera shot or it's nothing.
It was, I don't know what it was. So I got to
kind of maybe figure that out. And maybe even
if I re -watch Mania, I can, I can kind of get
that. But this match from start to finish, I
don't want to go crazy, but it was one of the
better matches I've seen live. And I have seen
thousands of matches. I have. I knew with those
three women, they were going to deliver. And
that's why we kept talking about, like, from
a storyline perspective, we got irritated because
we're like, man, you could have just went with
Bianca and Rhea. This don't make sense. It's
disjointed. And never because what the match
is not going to be, because we know what the
match is going to be. If they're allowed to be
that, they were allowed to be that. And that
goes back to my point earlier where Triple H
says, you know, we're not taking the foot off
the gas. It's not to say we took the foot off
the gas for night one, but you got to leave something
for night two. You got to have people who watch
night one want to watch night two. You can't,
you can't blow your load night one. I get that.
But then my argument would be, but you are taking
your foot off the gas because there was nothing
remotely close to Rhea, Bianca and EO on night
one outside of the main event, which you throttle
the other matches to make sure We remembered
and got what we got in the main event. I came
over here yesterday and said, if they would have
gave Tiffany and Charlotte another five or six
minutes, what that could have looked like. Guess
what? Women's Triple Threat match got more than
nine minutes. Case in point. Case in point. The
IC Fatal Four Way match delivered. Damian and
Drew delivered. And I had even tweeted, Yesterday,
you know, there's two schools of thoughts, like
just philosophies when it comes to putting a
car together and doing wrestling. And it is when
you have a massive match, like something like
we got with the Triple Threat Women's match as
the opener. The next match, either you take the
philosophy of what they did Saturday night, which
is either put a match in there that people really
don't care much about or match after start slow.
Right? Start slow, let the crowd catch the breath.
And then you work your way throughout the match
to end at a high note. Or, you hit it hard and
go balls to the wall. And that was what Drew
and Damian did. Of course they have a producer.
I have a sneaky suspicion that Drew had a hand
in that also. And that's also the thing, that's
why they went to a street fight. It's easier
doing a street fight than it is a regular match.
They went right forward as soon as the bell rung,
it's go time. And it really helped the show and
it really helped that match by them doing that.
But I was even super impressed with that, but
you could tell the difference. If by watching
the show, you could really see that night two
was at a different pace than what night one was.
That's probably a great, that's probably a great.
definition of what we saw in difference. It was
the pace. You're absolutely right. It just, it
never, it never let up. Mania Night 2 did not
let up. Even when you had a moment of Terry brief
up who Randy was going to wrestle. Even when
Austin came out to post again, bring the crowd
down right before the main event. He had like
two accidents, one in the back before he even
came out. And then when he hit the lady, I shouldn't
be laughing at that. You didn't get hit. The
barricade got hit. You don't get your old man.
All right. But the point is like even that was
exciting. And shout out to you because I left
to grab another drink when Austin came out. But
feeling the energy from you, feeling energy from
the UK guys behind us, as far as how much You
love Stone Cold how much he loved both of them
love Stone Cold like this is so personal for
us And I think that's why everybody who was like
a wrestling fan is Opinionated because it's something
that's so special to us something that we hold
Deep down inside even if you grow up and you
try to act like you're no longer a pro wrestling
fan But you know deep down inside You are I mean
it's it's emotional to it It has a huge block
on our heart and to be able to get that like
that is what WrestleMania is about. I remember
the dongs before Undertaker became Mark Halloway.
I Will get those feelings just hearing the dongs
from at home watching on TV if I was able to
know the times I got to hear the dongs live it
almost would bring you to tears. And some people
will be like, you a sucker, you loser, you nerd
because you get an emotional over, but okay,
I am. This is special to me. I hold this really
deep in my heart. So I'm happy that you were
able to get that Stone Cold moment too. Cause
we don't know how many more times we'll be able
to get to see Stone Cold. But yeah, that may
have been it. You know what I'm saying? Like
to hear the glass break in that element, like
even. I had a feeling we were going to see him.
I didn't think he was going to do a run in in
the main event. I never once brought that up
on the podcast because it didn't make sense because
I had seen a winning. So it doesn't make sense
to use Austin in that spot. But when we didn't
get his music when they introduced him and Brett
Saturday. Oh, that's a good point. That's a good
point. You know, I just look at it from a different
lens. I'm like, hmm, OK, like you had an opportunity
to pop. crowd there. You know, you didn't get
it and we got it on on Sunday. And when his music
hit, it wasn't even about, oh man, is he gonna
be a special guest referee? Oh, is he a special
guest enforcer for the main event? Because we
knew there was nothing left. We knew the only
thing that was left was the main event. But it
was just a matter of, man, we got a chance to
see and hear him. So to your point about what
this thing means to us, it does mean a lot. Like
real quick, two quick stories. Bill Goldberg,
you know, a lot of us are not fans for Goldberg
anymore, either because you feel like he's watched,
you know, you feel like he, you know, hurt Brett.
You feel like he's whatever the case may be.
Right. I was on Twitter a couple of weeks ago.
He put out, no, what it was, was there was a
video that came across the timeline of him. I
think when they were at the Superdome, I can't
remember where they were. It was a stadium show.
It was Nitro. And it was a minute and a half,
like two minutes and 12 seconds total for the
time. Gobert got in the ring to the time he was
about to leave the ring. And I stopped watching
the video and I paused it. And I'm like, Hey,
Reducer, come here. Like, I don't know if you've
ever actually seen Pete Gobert before. So we
sat there and watched the two minute video. And
in that moment, I just remember the hate, the
come on, dude, like. You went over to Saudi and
messed up, you know our guy braids push you took
the title from them all that kind of went away
and for me it was like Damn, thank you because
I remember Having a who's next shirt. I forgot
I even had it somebody in the crowd. They showed
I was like, yo I had that shirt and like for
us to spend money and To wear somebody's merchandise.
That means they mean something to you, right?
No matter if it's strictly entertainment or what
it is it struck a chord with you And like, so
in that moment, I was like, you know what, man,
if Goldberg wants to come back and have a retiring
match, how can I say no to that? This man put
his body on the line for our entertainment. Yeah,
they get paid, but it's still something to where
they are doing this for our entertainment. I
got a quick chance to see Chris Bay, I think
Friday night, Friday night. And I had a chance
to tell him, like, dude, like. Keep pushing,
baby. Like, you know what I'm saying? Just keep
pushing. Like, God doesn't make mistakes. And
to see him walking when he was paralyzed, you
know, after working a match, he's worked hundreds
and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of professional
wrestling matches. He is a professional wrestler
that is not in AW, that is not in WWE, meaning...
He now has to still find a way to provide for
himself and his family going forward. There is
no pension There is no retirement fund for him
right now like so you gotta get through the mental
aspect of To help me even trying to figure out
how I'm going to continue to wrestle I gotta
walk and I gotta learn how to provide for myself
now. He's gonna be fine He's a good guy, but
Those are just two instances where it's like,
a lot of times, you know, we get in our feelings
as fans and anything that you do or you watch,
professional athletes, whatever it is. But at
the end of the day, you're still a human. And
at the end of the day, what they do is for the
enjoyment of us. And it's just like, that's just
something to not take lightly or, because it's
easy to forget. It's really easy to forget. So
we had the women's match. We got to talk about
Dominic. On my bingo card, he was probably number
three, maybe four to win. I probably had maybe
Bron, deep down inside, if I'll be honest, Bron
retaining maybe Penta number two, and then between
Finn and Dom, three, four, if I'm being truly
honest. In my favorites, Dom was absolutely number
four. Like I wanted Finn to win. But when you
think about what he has done over the last two
years, being on every show, damn near every SmackDown
and Raw at one point when Judgment Day was on
everything, getting that massive heat, retaining
that massive heat, even to this moment getting
that massive heat when now there's massive cheers
that he got. But just a true student of the game,
you look at somebody like Dom, and I don't want
to take this from you, Matt, because I know you
told me earlier about a story that you heard
about him, but just how effortless it looks for
him. And not in a bad way, not like, okay, it
comes easy to you and blah, blah, blah. No, because
you can tell that he's dedicated to this. You
can tell that he's just a sponge and a student
of the game and he learns as much as he can.
And all the effort he's put in. Always being
able to handle whatever they give them. A lot
of wrestlers are flexible and versatile like
that. Um, and I think this is going to be the
year for them. 2025 is going to be the shining
lights of these people who just are just your
great, I don't even call them utility players
because it's almost disrespectful to use that
word because they are so good at what they do.
But when we say a payoff and deserving. God dog.
I did not think that I would want them to win
that IC championship, but I am so happy and so
proud. And I popped super loud when he, when
he finally did win. Kudos to that man. That was,
that's one of those you had to be in a building
to get the gravity of that moment. A little similar
to like when Jay won the title, like being in
the building and feeling the energy, but probably
honestly, even a little bit more was it was Dom's
win because that was strictly a pop of appreciation
for Dom. Yeah. It felt different. Yeah. Because
it's like, dude, you have busted your ass. Think
about where he was four years ago. I remember
having conversations with people, and I'm like,
yo, it may be a rap for him. Going down to NXT
is not going to help. Like, it's just not. Like,
he was in a space when he was just with Ray,
and he was the, you know, carbon copy, Babyface
101. They were working tag matches at house shows
TV It was just like damn he ain't got it man
that sucks like he ain't got it and he turns
heel and he starts doing the thing a little bit
and then at a time it was a crutch of I got the
mic and then I get boobs doesn't matter. He's
not really cutting promos Right. He put the mic
up to your mouth. You're going to get booed and
we'll have somebody else in judgment day take
over the promo. Okay, cool. But to see him go
through all of that, to get that type of appreciation
and adulation from that crowd because of who
you are, not necessarily because of a storyline,
because yeah, if you had to pick a babyface or
a hill between him and Finn, he's the babyface
for sure. That wasn't that pop. That wasn't that
pop. That was a pop of You have earned everybody's
appreciation, and we actually all like you, but
you are so good in your role. We are going to
continue to boo you because this is what we do.
The same way now you go to Yeet. A few years
ago, you went to these shows to boo Dom. That
was the moment. That was the crowd participation
moment, right? Austin had the what, Jay got the
Yeets, Domine's got the boos. And it was just
awesome to see it flip on a dime in one show.
There was no lead up to this. Don wasn't getting
cheered at any show before this. So to see everybody
in the crowd want him to win and then for him
to be able to pull it off, not really cheap,
you know, and then be able to run back to the
ring and get that secondary pop. That was awesome.
I hope they have a plan for him. And this is
not a, you know, he drops it at backlash or anything.
He deserves it. He absolutely deserves it. John
Cena made a comment right before we recorded,
John was on Pat McAfee show, which Pat is hilarious.
Pat is high and drunk right now. Still at this
moment. I don't know what time he stopped partying
last night, but God bless Pat for you to be as
high as you are and still be able to handle your
national worldwide job on ESPN. Kudos to you,
brother. But Sina just said like, you know, his
dad is my guy. He's like, but he's a kid that
I have so much love for, and he just said that
in 20 years, Dom is going to be the most famous
Mysterio. And this is when like you, now you
like kind of really peel back the curtain. Think
about John Cena. We're like, think about how
much Ray did for John. And now I get to see your
son do this. Same thing with Punk. Punk was on
last night ESPN with Cormier. It was a quick
thing on Sports Center. Punk brought up Dom again.
And Punk always finds a way to bring up Dom.
It's because like - It works any young talent.
Yeah, like, well, when I was here last time,
you were a kid. Like a legit kid. Same thing.
And me and your dad worked up and down the roads
all across the country in the world. And now
there's a chance I get to work with you. Hell,
I shared with you last night. I didn't think
you remember. Dom was Punk's first match back
in WWE. House show in California, in LA. That's
because I'm sure a punk was like, man, I got
it, man. I got to work down. Like, I was like,
dude, I remember you running around as a kid
back here back in the day. So it's just awesome,
man. Like that. That's when, you know, this game
becomes much more real than, you know, what is
shown on television. But shout out to him. I
love to see Penta get a legit, true WrestleMania
moment. Finn has been around for a while, right.
But for him to still get a spot, Brian. Did brown
things. I'm excited to see what's next for him.
But a true legit WrestleMania moment was made.
Absolutely. So I still got something I didn't
share from night one that I wasn't too high on.
I'm sure people could put two and two together.
Now I got one for night two. And I'm gonna first
start off by saying... Becky Lynch is one of
the most over wrestlers in the last decade. Every
time we're at a show and I don't care if, because
it was a surprise, a return, throw that all out.
She gets one of the biggest, most sustained pops
at any wrestling show she is on. Her pops are
so loud. It sounds like it's part of the music.
It sounds like they're pumping it in to the stadium.
When her music hit, the stadium was damn near
shaking. Legit. I think they even cut to somebody
in the crowd who was crying. I understand this
is a business. I get that for sure. Bailey and
nobody else is getting that type of reaction.
I do feel a certain type of way. And I get Tripoli
said on the press conference, guys, Bailey's
gonna be fine. I get that. Okay, cool. I personally
feel a certain type of way with Bailey not getting
on WrestleMania. And then you parlay that with
the MVP of the women's division for the last
12 months taking the pin. I also understand storyline
wise it makes sense. I get all that. Have Raquel
take that pin. I just have an issue with the
work that Liv Morgan has done throughout the
entire year. And you can't, in my opinion, pick
and choose now what a WrestleMania moment is
and then say, oh, but everybody doesn't need
a moment. It's fine. Right? Because then you're
talking out of both sides of your neck and you
can't do that. I just felt that was a little
I absolutely would not have booked it that way.
I would not have had Liv take that pin. She's
done too much. To me, she means too much. And
yes, she's going to be fine, right? They could
run something tonight on Raw where she gets her
heat back. So really what Heels is not about,
oh, if they lose, you destroy them. You kill
all their heat. But I do think in this instance,
Bailey not having a match. And you parlay that
with. Liv taking a pin. I just personally have
a nasty bad taste in my mouth about that. But
I say that to say this. I get it. I get it because
Becky is her. Becky is one of those. And I remember
how pissed off we all were when she came back
at SummerSlam and beat Bianca in less than 30
seconds. Still a horrible decision because it
took Bianca a couple years to bounce back from
that. I don't care what you say. I know what
I'm talking about on that. That is not up for
debate. This is not that, but she is her. I get
it. But I ain't like it. I would have felt differently
this morning if I didn't hear H address the Bailey
thing. Um, we already know there's been times
just in this year alone that I felt that he's
dropped the bomb. When it comes to a PR time
to respond and H be it as it may Didn't represent
the black history month. We don't have to go
down there None that road, but I do feel a bit
different that he did say guys Bailey's gonna
be fine because you acknowledge That she got
wronged here. She did We can get past that because
again, this is their product they are gonna Either
I'm going to buy a ticket or I'm going to watch
a product or I'm not, right? What I can't stand
is the fans who, and I maybe I should also probably
start with, I'm not a huge Becky girl. I'm not
a Becky girl at all. I can appreciate her. I
can appreciate her work. I can appreciate her
being a role model for a lot of people. And it
is undeniable every time I've ever seen her live
and just even the reactions on TV. Like you said,
she's her, she's him at this point. Well, how
can you be clamoring so happy? Blah, blah, blah.
Yes, Becky's back. But then you throw hate and
shade on the queen. I just don't understand that
double standard. Talk about it. Like, you sit
up here, and she comes back the last two times
she came back from injury. In 26 seconds, she
beats Bianca, like you said, who took years to
recover from, takes her title. And then she comes
back again now and wins the tag team championship.
But everybody is so happy about it. I mean I
was happy about I love Lyra I think she is in
time. She just has to be maybe a little bit more
work on her character Like maybe people get more
interested in her character, but I think she
has all the makings of a great future Bird lady
got her moment the bird lady bird. Yeah bird
lady I think bird lady is going to be Very important
in pro wrestling game later. I think she just
kind of they're trying to figure her out She
had a start and stop last year So I'm not gonna
hate on that moment. I think it was a wonderful
moment. I even got happy about it I even Cheered
for Becky coming. Although that was probably
the biggest non surprise surprise that we got
this whole mania weekend But you can't do that
fans. You can't sit up here and be all happy
Becky comes back in the last time two times She
comes back. She wins the first match back Then
you throw shade at Charlotte gone with that.
That's what I can't get over Yeah, so two other
quick things Joe Hendry With Orden Fun little
piece of business place erupted for Joe Hendry.
So it was the right call And I was happy because
nobody had to eat a loss If you remember, that's
what I was talking about on the show for the
last couple weeks. Be careful who you put in
there with Orden Because they got to lose they're
going to lose. You know, there was some talk
of You know, Alistair Black, there's some talk
of Mero. Well, we knew it wasn't going to be
Alistair. Just one, I knew that because I know
they got plans for Alistair. And then on Friday,
they showed the video package showing this Friday.
Yeah, for Alistair. But then there was talk of
Mero. There was also some talks of some other
people, Carmelo Hayes. And I'm like, no, like
whoever you put in there, you're feeding to Randy
Orton. So you mission accomplished. You got Joe
Hendry, a incredible rub. This man was on WrestleMania.
Think about somebody like Joe Hendry, right?
Where it was funny cause I saw him in the airport
on Monday when I was heading over to Sensei.
I think he was in Chicago for autograph signing
last weekend, but it looks the exact same way
at the airport as he does on TV. But you think
about somebody like him. this guy before there
was even a partnership with TNA, he's on Impact
and rocking and rolling and trying to do things.
And he goes from that to being on WrestleMania.
I mean, Vikingo night one on WrestleMania. Like,
and these guys are not under WWE proper contract.
So that's gotta be just cool for them. Absolutely
cool for them. But got a awesome moment. Got
a pop, you know, got Orton to have some fun out
there. Good to go. Keep it moving. So I'm happy
Orton got another, another, you know, opportunity
to get out in front of WrestleMania. Still sucks
about KO for sure. Uh, and then I saw it when
the press conference Triple H just talked about
in his mind, you had to just completely pivot
away from what KO Orton match would have been.
You know, that was, you know, serious and, you
know, deep grudge and violent. So what they wanted
to present needed to be completely different.
If you look at it from that philosophy, it was
absolutely mis -accomplished. I want to backtrack
a little bit. In other words, hindsight's 20
-20 or should be. That's when you realize that
you've grown in life. But I did come on here
and say that if you didn't have anything after
chaos, injury, leave, I'd say we don't need to
put Randy Ordon on mania. You know, there's no
point in you only had a couple weeks into mania.
Why would you insert anybody else into it? Can
you like not already? You got if you have warden
you put him on mania and of course, I'm in my
feelings I know we don't need to have him on
there because there's some other matches we could
have had on on the show We don't need to have
warden I will come back and say that that was
a very great move because what it was able to
do was able to put somebody else over and at
no loss to him nothing but games so in this is
his 20th WrestleMania like again when you talk
about somebody who deserves things. Like he's
been in the game for a long time. He deserved
a Mania match and he didn't take up that much
time. And again, overall, it was a plus positive
for everybody involved. But when I did post,
I don't know if I actually hit Twitter or not,
but I'm like, outside of the Seth Rollins RKO,
I was like, this has been my most favorite RKO
I've ever seen. Like, how amazing is it? And
it's cringy because we, you know, that's his
move, Joe Hendry, close up. And the camera action
of that and RKO and Randy weren't arcane on that
was just so awesome. That was absolutely my most
favorite of RKO of all the times. And again,
now you got Joe Hendry over too. So I am happy
that we got to see that. And it was a moment
of levity. So we were able to laugh a little
bit and again, a very fast paced, high paced
moving show. I do think it's funny that I had
been talking for a couple of weeks. surrounding,
I've mapped out my bathroom breaks each night.
I said, I didn't take one on night one, child
to you, going to grab drinks night one, so I
didn't have to get up. But I said it was be new
day and war Raiders strictly because of the presentation,
nothing to do with like them or anything like
that. And I said the second match was going to
be Logan Paul. and AJ Styles. Shout out to my
guy, the Earl Taylor on X. Showed the font, matched
it by the star and he tweets at it and says,
bathroom break for that's FNW. And I didn't leave
at that point because I left as soon as Dom won
the title. Because at that point, like once again,
I was talking about you gotta map out your times
to leave. If you wait until Everybody exit stage
left, you in the concessions in the bathroom
for about 20 minutes. If you leave as soon as
that bell rings, you can be back before the next
match starts. So we book it. Head out, bathroom,
alcoholic beverage break. So we're back in for
everything. So actually I saw all of Logan Paul
and AJ Styles. And I will say, I probably still
could have went to the bathroom during AJ Styles.
and Logan Paul. Get some more out. Worst match
of the night. This is what it is. Is what it
is. Yeah, it is what it is to me. I didn't watch
any of it. Well, I did watch the one part with
Karrion Kross, the new goat. My guy. My guy,
Karrion Kross, speak about it. If you guys have
not seen the three minute video, I posted it
on X, that's FNW, but go find it. When I tell
you it's time, it is time. I have been a Karrion
Kross guy, I'm sorry, I have been a Killer Kross
guy before he even got to NXT and WWE. Okay,
that's how far back of a fan I've been of Karrion
Kross. He knows it. Every time I add him, my
guy likes it or, you know. pre -tweets it or
he engages with it somehow. So he knows, I know
for sure he knows how much I appreciate him and
Scarlett. It's time, right? Like he's, he got
an opportunity last week in a match on Raw, thought
he delivered, showed up Andre DeMuro, Battle
Royal, showed up, got a great response from the
crowd. It's not the name of that match. Whatever
lady. He's from Vegas, so I would expect nothing
less. Got a massive pop at Mania. And then couple
that with the promo that he cut. It is a, this
is the guy that I need on my television. So I
am excited for him. I know he's in a contract
year also. Um, so I'm excited for him, but that's
my guy. That that is 100 % my guy. I'm looking
forward to what they have in store for him in
the next year. As I am with a lot of these, we
had six title changes at WrestleMania. That's
a ton. Right? So. It's gonna be exciting to see.
And I do know there are a lot of surprises planned
tonight on Raw and on SmackDown. So should be
a lot, a lot of fun. So that was awesome to see.
All right, before we get out of here, I do have
one question for you. So we talked, you know,
we didn't deep dive. I mean, we deep dive a little
bit on this show. Shout out to the Freaks. Shout
out to everybody who supports the pod. Listen
to the pod. Y 'all know the deal. We appreciate
you guys. Let's say on Wednesday's pod, we'll
kind of like rap. the whole weekend and kind
of give you guys just general overall thoughts
about things that we did out here in Vegas, but
a ton of fun. Got a chance to meet some awesome,
awesome people. I love everybody and shout out
to everybody that we met. From a WrestleMania
perspective, night one and or night two, give
me a moment that we have not talked about on
either podcast that stuck with you, that you
really enjoyed, that may have been underrated.
What you got? That kind of a question What we
saw actually on many a night one or night two
that sticks with me Is that the question? Sure.
Yeah, something that you just want to either
shout out or highlight or something that you
really enjoy I Mean the low -hanging fruit, but
you said that we didn't talk about is there anything
if not if you just want to highlight something
else go ahead and do that too i no okay i would
just say that i would just double down on what
you said um that the internet is nothing like
what it is live okay oh no actually no we talked
about it but Again, just the camaraderie between
you and the UK guys behind us having a moment
like a gold ball memory. So anybody who knows,
knows me, knows that I talk about Inside Out
all the time movie. I call it emotions, the emotions
movie. And gold ball memories are those lasting
memories throughout that person's entire life.
And that, you know, being able to have a gold
ball memory with Stone Cold. Um, and then feeling
like the energy off the both of you because again,
Stone Cold, he's cool. I mean, he's nowhere near
one of my goats. Um, I would never disrespect
him for what he's done because I know how much
he means to you. Again, you shaved your head
for the guy. Um, but. I could feel when I came
back, I could even feel just the electricity
between you and the guys behind us on how great
of a moment that was. So yeah, we touched on
it. Um, but that would be probably something
I took away from WrestleMania one to, um, that
probably no one else had experienced in this
particular setting. I'm just feeling the energy
off of you of how, how, how happy you were, like
a joy. It was joy. And I felt the joy off of
you. Awesome. That's awesome. Uh, mines would
be, and I kind of told you. Yesterday, I was
like, damn, I didn't bring it up on our night
one pod. But one of the most underrated moments
of this WrestleMania for me, and it absolutely,
they shot it. It was not the same as being in
the building. It was when Roman and Punk just
sat in the ring for minutes. And Roman was just
looking off in space. And Punk was just looking
at Roman. Roman had his back turned to punk.
Punk was looking at Roman's direction. This is
after, of course, Heyman leaves with Seth. And
I'm starting to get goosebumps right now, thinking
about it. Because we're off. This is not... We're
off. And we're selling. And the story of Roman
Reigns, right? This is the lowest that he's ever
been. This is the way I thought we were gonna
get last year. Talk about that redemption story.
And I thought after he lost the title, we would
get to that point. That's what we're about to
get now. It gets no worse than where he's at
right now, from a character perspective, for
Roman Reigns. He has lost everything and everybody.
Everybody continues to turn their back on him.
Now, yes, you can argue and say outside of Seth,
because Seth was the one that turned first. You
can say, well, he mushed, he mushed Paul Heyman,
right? He turned on the Usos. He did all that.
But every time he trusts somebody, they cross
him. And he thought he lost Heyman. He's pissed
off. He thinks he gets Heyman back just for Heyman
to double cross him to go with the guy that has
emotionally broke him a decade ago. Long time
ago. Holy hell. And for him just to sit on that
apron. And just look off for minutes. Like I
said, I know they shot it. If you were in the
building, you know what I'm talking about if
you watched. And then to see Punk looking at
him. And think about Punk. This is all I ever
wanted was to main event in WrestleMania with
my best friend, Paul Heyman. And I got double
crossed. When Paul Heyman was the one that brought
me in this shit show in the first place for War
Games. I didn't ask to be a part of War Games.
Man, and I know that this wasn't a shot, because
it was impossible to shoot it this way. When
Heyman hit Roman with the nut shot, the look
on Seth's face without even turning around and
putting his hand out for the chair. Boy, there
it is again. Goosebumps, right there. That is
to hell with. I ain't never got a goose bump
over a damn, uh, somersault, moonsault, triple
toe loop, clothesline, lariat. This is what,
this is what gets me. It's never, it's never
been about the moves, right? It's about character
investments, about the story you tell and the
look on Seth's face. And then the pop of the
crowd of just putting his hand out, knowing that
chair is coming because I know what happened.
I don't even have to look. I know what happened.
Now it's business time again. Um, we got so much.
to be excited about. From a WWE perspective,
think about what we possibly have a chance to
see tonight. We're gonna get Seth Rollins and
Paul Heyman, right? I would hope. I'm going to
assume. On the same show, you get John Cena,
right? On the same show, you get to follow up
with Jey Uso. We know we're getting Jey Uso.
It's a lot. It's a lot. And job well done, WWE.
Once again, to what you said, Rhodesia, I knew
it. And I'm gonna say it just one last time.
Internet's not a real place. Internet is an incredible
place to meet people, to engage, to have fun.
But the negativity, I truly understand now, and
I said it last night, but I truly understand
what Jay meant when he said at Wale Mania is,
I don't know you. I can't see you. Come to a
show. And like, then I know. Like, you'll see.
And I'm starting to see some of you bigger...
Internet accounts too. I'm starting I'm starting
to see a game too and I'll just leave it at that
but uh I'm starting to see starting to see now
like I like it one bit All right, we out of here.
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