are we doing,
I'm wearing green Greeks today.
Yeah.
That a thing for everybody.
Yes.
I'm happy to be on my green outfit.
Happy St. Patrick's Day.
Happy St. Patrick's Day to everybody.
Welcome to the TFW Podcast.
I am Matt, your host, joined by my esteemed co-host, Eshaan
Rhodesia.
Let's get this party started.
We starting with the rock, right?
I think you kind of have to.
I mean, we could start with Mercedes.
She has the wrestling world ablaze also.
But it's up to y'all.
Where do y'all want to start?
Y'all want to go with Dwayne setting the internet on fire
again and setting SmackDown on fire and having to have a creative
guy put messages out on Twitter because they're talking about his
segments are running long and Brian is like his segment was 30
seconds less than the 20 minute a lot of time.
So Brian, he needs to do what I said months ago.
Shut the fuck up.
It's the rock.
That's it.
These folks out here.
I swear.
Yes, the rock is one of our goals, but the amount of people and it
is the minority, but the amount of people I'm seeing complaining
and bitching and moaning about the amount of time rocks getting
on TV.
Like, come on guys.
Did see this is one of those moments where it's like, all right,
you're a little too inside.
A little too inside because everybody is excited to have the rock
back.
The rock is a bonafide legend in our game and you see near bitching
and moaning about the amount of time.
Yes.
Come on, man.
Come on.
But anyway, any who he let's start with you.
So Dwayne basically made fun of your guy crying on Monday and he
said that was your chance to come back.
And what do you do?
You start crying as a fellow.
Cody crybaby as a fellow Cody fan.
How did that make you feel?
Are you are you like, hey, this is just the business or you starting
to work yourself into a shoot a little bit?
You know, I don't have a problem with Cody crying because you know
what?
Because as a older man myself now, I find myself tearing up at random
things.
I'll talk about my family too and how important they are to me.
All right.
Just I can't talk about I was I was talking to Matt the other day.
My dad.
God bless him.
He turned 78 years old and I didn't realize that he was that old to
that shout out to that.
But what I realized is that you know, since moving to Georgia that I
only see him maybe twice a year.
He comes down to visit me for Thanksgiving.
I come down and visit him during the summer.
I'm like, man, you know, in the past five years, I've been here only
seem twice a year and the thought of start tearing me up.
I started talking about my family was important to me.
I started tearing up.
That's why I feel something for Cody.
That's why he's so relatable from the core fans.
Now, here's the thing about the rock his at whoops, we got company.
So I can't I can't go in like I want to I got company his but he going
over the line.
Y'all his ass going to goddamn far talk about his mama.
We bring in mama Rose into this.
The way I refuse to call you by a mineral anymore.
You're the way Mr.
Johnson, you going too far son.
We talked about mama's see this is what I'm talking about.
So you going too far because as a older black man, he should be
bringing up the black culture and the community.
What's he doing to Cody?
He turned a young man down.
He ain't bringing that young black brother up with him.
He turned him down.
He turned on his mama.
That's when he's going too far.
I am I am no longer a rock fan.
Whoa, no longer a rock fan.
Our mama's into the into the equation.
Okay, talk about the daddies.
We built for this.
Okay, that's cool.
No, no, no, no, sir.
You've gone too far guys.
He turned you he finally turned you the rock is doing his job
because if Esha when we just did our top 20 list, what you
have you had on top three, right?
Yeah, third or second.
I think maybe second.
Love it.
This is what it's about.
This is the emotion we are supposed to have and if Roman
Reigns gets his hand raised on night two because the rock
interfered.
God dog.
Hey, Matt, Roman Reigns who we should talk about that guy.
Hey, they got a next Friday or this Friday got to heat it up.
He still go there man face to face with Cody.
All right.
This is this is your opportunity to put the onus back on Roman
and Cody for night two of WrestleMania and sell that they've
done a incredible job of selling the tag match.
They've done an incredible job of making us feel like what
does the rock mean by saying he'll make Seth's title go away
which drew actually kind of shout out the rock on raw Monday.
So I think we got some going there may you know, they're
doing a fantastic job of making us want to see rock and Cody,
but they really done much around Roman and Cody so getting
to face to face on Smackdown should be pretty fantastic.
I have a question for both of you and we're these I'll start
with you because ease answer probably won't change.
What's how is this run?
For you impacting rocks legacy.
He's about rocks run.
Yes, I think it's he can't get much higher than two because
again Undertaker is number one on my list of all-time favorite
wrestlers, but and I think he will always be but it's only
going to make it better.
It's going to make it.
He already had a such a legendary career already.
So now you put this on top of that already.
Now we got to also see him work.
So let's also put put that out there.
Last time we saw him work. He was exhausted.
He blew up pretty quick.
But again, he doesn't do it all the time but legacy wise.
This is only made it even grander to me because you get
somebody like Esha who had him number two on his list now
hates them chopped them all the way down like come on like
that.
That's sky blue now over the ride.
That's nuts.
You see her lately you put her over there all over him.
She's already in my top five.
We got top wait, what's up?
Five is we Tomo here.
Oh, that's a good call.
You're right.
My bad.
Yes, she's not that high.
Yeah, I thought about it and there is a possibility when
this run is all said and done.
Meaning when we finally do get rock Roman how that plays
out.
I actually might move him to number one over Austin.
I'm thinking that highly of what he's doing right now.
It's that entertaining to me.
Like I look forward to these Friday afternoon Instagram
drops and he hasn't like missed yet and you know, there were
there was some talk online about people are upset because
his language, you know, some maybe some of the other talent
is saying well hell if we can go out there and curse we could
be over to but you couldn't but you can't because Seth was
just on Twitter two weeks ago calling drew a bitch and I
think calling rock a bitch.
He's not anymore over drew is showing you creatively how to
use social media to get over.
He's another one that is bad in a thousand right now, but
that's how much like this run is is doing like the he's
playing all the hits in a good way, you know, like typically
you can come back and play the hits and this is like, all
right, like you're coasted.
Yep, you're at legend acts and you just going through your
thing and he's not doing that at all.
Like the rock concert, you know, some people may not have
liked it.
I think the majority really really enjoyed it.
But to me it lived up to the rock having a concert it lived
up to heal the rock him bringing back the music and then
flipping it midway through the entrance song like not just
coming out with that music and even if like we don't get
that again say that was just a one-off because hey, I'm
doing the rock concert and I'm going to bring it back for
people who appreciate it who enjoy it.
That's playing the hits the right way.
That's playing the hits words like thank you for doing
that that meant something to pose him just kind of coming
out and doing the thing and he even like how the music hit
and how he walked to the ring much more slow and much more
methodical and then hitting that line at the end of his
promo and it was like that's he shows the goosebumps all
the time.
That's goosebump worthy material and the thing that allegedly
this was you know, we already said it.
I don't think this was the plan but this wasn't a plan to
start.
I can't imagine that that makes me that much more grand
Romans bill being as good as this in a short amount of time
right like if they would have went with the press conference
rocking Roman and then to try to tell the entire bloodline
story leading up it wouldn't have been this because he
wouldn't have been the Hill and rock Hill is what's best
for business cream rises to the top under pressure or just
at any point.
So when you get somebody as good as the rock and he has
been in a pivot happens.
This is when the cream of the cream goes to the top.
So II have a quick question for you.
I know Matt kind of asked you one even though you didn't
like what he said and I think he was personally attacking
Cody's mom.
I think he was just saying hey, you going to be in the front
row.
You're going to watch and witness keep her name on your
mouth right?
You're right.
So let's go to the name on your mouth.
I appreciate that a little bit a little bit.
You can't agree that this shit is entertaining as hell since
he's been back.
When you agree to that at least.
Oh, yeah, he's entertaining.
Definitely.
I mean, that's the thing about the rock that stands him above
like other wrestlers.
He's an entertainer.
He he gets what wrestling is and what is all about is always
been about the entertainment.
So I was being about the charisma.
It's always been about the mic and he captures all of that.
Yeah, he's an entertaining man.
That's why he translated so well to the to the box office,
right?
Why his movies are great and we enjoy his movies because he
is a personality on personal unlike any we've seen.
I'm just very interested to see what the Roman got to do
because he's been he like is like I said before he has a
quiet confidence about himself.
He's not over top.
He's not really dramatic.
I feel like his music is if you underwhelming a lot to be
honest with you.
Oh, yeah, just in comparison to the rock and his music just
to me.
I think it's very generic.
So even when you first got the music.
So we never separate.
I'm not a fan, but I think it fits his character because
he's he's kind of like a I don't say a slow burn, but he
has like a you know, he's like a fire that's just you know,
it's never out of control.
It's just always burning is bright.
It just comes right.
It's not this big grand thing.
His music is like that.
It's just like a very think it fits him.
What to me like his music was always ironically like the
final boss of a video game when you hear this music and you
get to Bowser the final time.
Oh, this is that so it's ironic that the Rock is now starting
to call himself the final boss, but it's gonna be entertaining
man.
It's gonna be entertaining to see what they do to really
stroke the fire for Roman and Cody if they do right like
maybe say what if somehow all eyes are again on the rock.
I don't think rocks not scheduled to be there but something
happened where he takes front page again because and it keeps
showing it when he told rock to acknowledge him and a rock
acknowledged him.
He did not have a smile on his face.
He still had a worried.
I guess you could say worried look on his face and like he
still knows that yeah, you acknowledge me, but you and I
both know you're you're the head you can see the tension you
can see the 10 and which is beautiful right?
I love the storytelling, you know something's coming.
We don't know when it might not be WrestleMania night one or
two, but something's coming is going to be great.
I mean if you think about high chief and tribal chief, I
think the high chief would be the highest position consider
the names exactly so and he and every time he talks about
his grandfather as he should and as he would he always mentions
high chief high chief so they're playing those little things
out there that we still know at the end of the day one time
the Rock is is the Dundatta.
But yeah, we are just you know talking to Brandon we were
texting a couple days ago after he watched the segment and
he's just like man like this is incredible like for him.
He's like I feel like we're back in the attitude era and
I'm just like man like we can't we can't take this for granted
what we have WB was already clicking on majority of cylinders
and now you add the Rock to it and it's just like this is
what it's about man.
It really is a man when I was watching the the segment with
rock.
I'm like I bet this is taking him or he should back and
choose like five or six years old.
Oh, there it is.
She's she's living her.
I don't even know if I was born yet.
Don't know if I was even born.
You live her childhood back man.
I'm like, you know great stuff.
I don't even know if I was born yet.
Oh man, eternal shout out to our guy.
He sent us a question right on brand with this.
He said I have a thought and I want y'all to discuss on the
pot do a double turn between Rock and Roman Cody verse the
Rock at Summer Slam after the Rock loses big Roman return
pop.
The only thing I can't figure out is he says in every promo
he's going to make Seth's title disappear.
So we take that last part first.
I think that's Drew's title to get but I didn't don't we are
we all in agreement that drew again assuming drew has resigned
are we all in agreement that Drew is going to win?
Yeah, I think so.
I think we talked about it, but I think this is how you get
there.
Like I said, Drew made a comment about the Rock on Raw last
Monday, but for the Rock to say I'll make that title disappear.
Like I'm going to be the one not like hey Drew's going to
beat you.
So I think there's be something but that leads up to the
chaos that I keep telling you about.
I think it's going to be from chaos from the moment of the
tag team match on night one to the ending and when the thank
you for buying a pay-per-view WWE logo comes up, I think it's
going to be chaos non-stop.
So maybe that is it.
School.
Thank you for buying the pay-per-view.
How about that Eshaan?
I wouldn't have remember that if I was only 15 years old.
You use it quite often.
How would you even Google that though?
You use it quite often.
I'm sure you figured out by now.
What?
So what's your guys thoughts about a pretty immediate
double turn?
And I say immediate because in the eternal hit me up and
let me know if you mean something different.
But my assumption is we don't see Roman again until Summer
Slam.
So we see him drop the title at Mania either due to Rock's
interference at backfires or whatever happens Rock does this
thing.
We found out now he does have a movie that he's taping or
he's filming from May to August, right?
First, I think no July.
So if the plan is for him to work Summer Slam, he can make
it work.
But so Mia my assumption is Roman loses and Roman is not
even there until Summer Slam when his music hits after Roman
in or Rock and Cody or maybe he's a reason why Rock loses
to Cody.
So I guess the question here is one.
What do you guys think about it that a kind of immediate
double turn?
Because then what does that do if we're trying to hold Rock
Roman off until WrestleMania because now you got almost still
like another half a year to build to that.
So just take that one first.
What's your guys thoughts on that?
I don't know if we have enough time to tell that story.
So to get that double turn for us to be back invested in Roman
being a good guy.
We have what two more Fridays left until Mania and then if
this is all supposed to happen at Mania and then Roman goes
in my a where is the storytelling going to be?
I mean Rock will have to do some really dirty stuff like at
Mania night one and night two for us to get Roman to be a
good guy and then for us to remember that over these next
three months.
That might be a bit challenging.
I like it.
I just don't know how we would get there.
If these guys were full-time competitors, I think it would
be great, right?
Just the thought of it the storyline possibilities are
great, but it's just as I wrote each of said, you know, these
guys we don't after Mania when when we're gonna see these
guys next be able to tell that story, right?
So we're going to get you know, we get some kind of double
turn on a on a on a mania.
We might not get the continuation until the summertime.
That's a long time to get I would say uninvested in a
storyline right?
Because a lot of things happened between that time frame,
right? You know, they're gonna have to run back with clips
whatever.
So whatever their next stage on the storyline with rock and
Roman, it had to be in a time frame to when they're gonna
have enough time like this to be able to actually tell it,
you know, I don't know if you know April and then continuing
to in March is going to do it.
Yeah, I mean, but that but not March 8 August, but that's
if they're waiting to do the match at Mania.
They may end up doing something.
I still don't think it's gonna be in Saudi, but they could
do something like on Netflix to start the Netflix.
You know, WWE family conglomerate.
Hey, our first show is well, okay, let's take that back.
So remember I said that everything it would be a disaster
or failure if it's not WrestleMania Rock versus Roman.
This is probably that only asterisk that if this is like
Netflix deal and to start it like you say make this gram
poppin circumstances for it that this would be the only time
that I would want to see rock enrollment not at WrestleMania.
Especially if you figure out coming off of Tyson and Jake
Paul could be some business there to be done, but I'm here.
I guess the only thing that I am a little worried about is
that they don't rush this and there's more to it.
Like now that the Rock is calling himself the final boss.
He's got to be the hill in this.
So this is the perfect opportunity to turn Roman face.
We knew that any great Hill turn how you make your money
on your Hill turn is through the face turn because typically
when you are a Hill when you turn face you are now an even
bigger face than you were if you flipped or just for your
first time and I think for Roman this is perfect.
Even if this is by happenstance because I think originally
the plan was going to be Roman is the Hill and Rock is the
face. You got a beautiful opportunity to keep Rock Hill
because you can we can start seeing how this could make
Roman a sympathetic baby face if he loses because of something
that the Rock did inadvertently or not and now the Rock tries
to take over the bloodline and we go through that entire thing.
The fans will be there for a face Roman.
You know, I kind of feel like it'd be easier right this do
the time and like the schedule these guys it'll be easier
to tell the story of a Hill Roman versus a face Rock because
the Rock is already people already want to cheer him.
These are already there for him.
It's easier to tell that story in a part-time manner without
having to change roles and get people the foot because no
Rock is still going to get the tears right?
So now you're still kind of oh yeah, he's getting tears now
like right because this is a great time for Rock right now
because what I think that I think he's doing a great job
against Cody and Cody's one of most popular guys in the entire
world of wrestling and I think that code Rock is doing a great
job of re like showing people who he is.
I think a lot of people may have forgotten.
I think right now I think it'd be easier for Rock just to
go back to being the sympathetic.
Well, I'm decent.
I think it's better for him to be face let Roman be the Hill
and then you tell that story of Roman turning face after
he's done with Rock business because he'll be around enough
to where he can kind of tell that story in another storyline
with someone else.
So if it's not punk though, like who else could it be like
Rock is the perfect because he is so popular and the reason
why I kind of would wonder and then of course everybody
watching listening let us know what you think there's still
a lot of ones up when Roman throws the ones up, you know,
into your point about Cody like yeah, Cody got some booze
during the Rock concert.
Cody comes out for the dark match and he gets one of the
biggest pops.
Night.
Yeah.
So like even even the face to face a week ago when he slapped
Rock nobody was booing Cody.
So yeah, it's of course in the in the vacuum of the Rock is
out there by himself cutting a promo being entertaining.
Yeah, the people are going to boo Seth and go and share Cody.
Yeah, I don't think it's going to happen though.
If they were in the ring face to face one-on-one and you
know, and this actually got my my hamster on my will in
my brain.
It's turning and spinning.
Let's lead with Rock and Roman at SummerSlam.
I don't know though.
I don't want it.
Let's go there with it.
Roman could come back before August.
He can come back.
Let's say June start building for it.
We know Rock is gone but Rock can still do videos.
He could still do promos and as him being on the board or
if he went to the story day, he's a movie star and he's on
on set.
He can still put things like Roman has to come in because
he is a tribal chief.
He has to fight blah blah blah and then you can send the
the Tomatanga brothers are they free agents or something?
Maybe Rock can still be a heel and a mastermind not there
physically but have his president's presence be known
throughout this time.
So then come August I can now see Roman being that baby
face.
I can see that working.
Man Roman pops me.
What do we how many Roman matches did we get last year?
Do I know we got the the Saudi maybe we got the Saudi we
got SummerSlam.
We got mania right and he only comes in.
He doesn't promote those matches.
I mean, but he doesn't actually do storylines.
He maybe maybe twice but leading up until the POE is typically
the same deal.
Right.
I like I know I know there's some thoughts about like,
oh maybe once he drops the title, he'll work more dates.
No his deal is this deal.
Now.
Yeah, they can add more dates on kind of like the same
thing with Brock.
He has going to cost money to add them on but I don't I
don't think his deal is backloaded for people who watch
you know sports and understand contracts where it's like,
hey, we'll give you, you know, 40 mil to start off with
but then it balloons to 80 million.
You laugh. I don't think this is a situation where it's like,
hey only work five matches in, you know, 20 to 20 23 so
then you can work 25 matches in 2024.
I don't think that's the deal that we're getting.
I mean, we're going to turn we're going to turn a heel
Roman who only should be seen three times every three
months and against a part-time.
You know, they'll stranger things can happen, right?
But I was like, it'll be easier to tell the natural story
as it is and then you can have Roman because it'll be easier
right because so for instance, let's say we got a hill stuff
coming in or something like that and he has a whole he
creates a whole new faction or something like that.
Whatever, right is easy for them to turn on no Roman somehow
and beat him down leave him laying right like beat him
down leave him bloody right game sympathetic and he's gone
for another couple months.
Good ill fit the storyline, right?
He comes back as the conquering hero.
It's it'll be much easier for him to do this and get some
established full-time heel that's there more often maybe
that's punk right?
I'm not sure what punch deal is but it seems like he's
on some type of a part-time schedule doesn't help his body
either.
He's due back this week, right?
The 25th or 20th.
Okay.
Yeah, you see that II they they scaled it down to the same
stage.
They use that Survivor Series.
So no big they put those tickles on sale and they sold
like the majority of them in one day.
We were already I think I like over like 12,000 seats sold
and they put them up and sold almost thousand in one day.
It's like just the business is incredibly.
So then okay, so they're coming.
He's going to be coming through the tunnel the people or the
the non Titan Tron stage is what you're saying.
Okay.
Yeah, and then they're using the same one for mania the raw
and Smackdown and then they're using the same one for money
in the bank.
So it's like the business is so hot for WWE.
Yeah, they aren't even using their staging because they can
sell so many tickets.
Think about that.
Unreal man.
I don't like that though.
I'm going to record and say that I watched WWE a lot for
their production.
So to me granted sitting at home, I'm still going to get
the same production watching it on TV, but being there.
I don't like that.
I want my fun though.
I didn't have a problem with the stadium ones is the ones
I have the issue with that's not me with stadiums and yeah,
like the Survivor Series.
I didn't either because I couldn't see I'm four foot 11.
I can't see.
It gets only perfect only people I saw.
I think I saw maybe you don't you get your grow a little bit
and they're right a couple quick hits for Smackdown AJ Styles
verse LA night.
I asked on X if you're not following us follow us that's
FNW, you know thoughts and the majority people said hey,
they're here for it.
They know it's gonna be a great match AJ's and probably be
give LA night, you know best match of his career sounds
good.
Hey, if it's not going to be for a title, why not AJ?
But a couple people are with me, which is match does nothing
for me.
Wow does nothing but is it because maybe how you feel toward
one or both?
It feels like for me personally not for the fans because he's
still over it was one of those.
All right, it's time to shit to go off the pot with LA night.
I'm not saying just throw him in the IC title match a world
title match.
You know the Logan Paul's belt is gonna be his belt until
SummerSlam.
It's in his hometown, but it's getting to that where it's
like if you don't at least put him in a major storyline.
I'm kind of like, all right, man, like I guess let me know
when it's time to pick you back up because I felt about
him last year.
Yes, it's not a missed opportunity or wasted opportunity
because you can't see somebody at the top of the car that
you would say hey flip them out with LA night, but that's
just how I'm he's kind of stagnant to me currently as is
and we know LA nights on a mean we know him in AJ's and
put on a great match, but I haven't really been that high
on AJ either.
He's been better since he's come back and he looks much
better.
Yeah, but it just I mean doesn't do me anything for me.
Which side of the fence are you guys on?
I'm there for it.
I'm all the way there for there is no doubt that LA night
isn't as big as we probably all wanted him to be at some
point. We know AJ cells kind of hasn't either we all agree
that since he's come back he's been better but every time
I see kind of them together.
I do get a certain feeling inside that I want to see them
go the Cherish I just the intensity.
Just as I guess his name is Daddy, right?
I just heard that.
The intensity that I saw that it Cherish I mean I felt it.
So for me I am there for it.
Okay.
Oh, he just took off.
The kids got to him.
I would think that he probably would say no.
I think he probably I probably think he would say I don't
give a crap about it, but it'll be I'm good with it.
I'm good with the match.
Yeah, I'm good with it.
Like I know what it is.
I mean LA night.
I'm still for LA night.
I still think he's good with it.
Is I mean LA night, I'm still for LA night.
I still think he's nice.
It's just that there's only so many top heels.
They have right now.
I mean when he was face to face with Drew, I think he held
his own in that Drew segment.
It made me want to see that in a few with them in the near
future.
I hope we get that AJ Styles is AJ Styles.
I think there's a place for AJ Styles.
I think he's like that that if you want to say rocks the
final boss, I think he's like that mid-card boss.
He's that guy that gets the next person ready going to give
him a good match.
He makes the majority of the audience of their core audience
enjoys AJ Styles still still gets a nice reaction from the
crowd.
I think it's fine.
Okay, what else you guys got from a smackdown?
You got any quick hits?
Yeah, two things one that moonsaw EO did off the top
rope onto Bailey's face.
Haven't heard anything.
She didn't she didn't react like it was major damage, but
that could have been nasty three weeks before mania that
that that look painful that absolutely painful and then
outside of that.
I was able to see the Jimmy responding and accepting Jays
challenge and I like that.
Yeah, I mean again, I'm used to even though Jimmy is a bad
guy.
He's a you we still don't really get to see like that bad
and that fire in him.
It ain't time for no Jokey Jokey.
Yeah, it's time to get down.
But he ended with Yeet like I would like to be like I was
like this is I like this Jimmy.
He like you little brother.
Listen you little brother and I told you I've always raised
you like dude.
What's going on in that household man leave it to him.
They're not even brothers believe it to like like a black
brother believe it to a brother to say I raised you and I'm
only seven months older to you.
He thinks he's my grandfather.
We only a few years apart.
But I like I like seeing that from Jimmy.
Yep.
I forgot to ask you guys last week just quick thoughts on
the prime sponsorship deal.
Logan came out there and said that hey going forward and
PL ease the prime bottle logos and be in the middle of the
wrestling ring.
We knew Vince hated logos didn't he detested it around
the ring not even on the ring, but we've seen it in WCW.
We've seen in AEW.
I think for WWE only fans.
It may be a little jarring at first.
I do think it is going to just blend in.
But what's your guys thoughts about having that logo smack
dab in the middle of the ring?
Vince is rolling over in his grave rolling over in his grave.
I think you said that wrestling is pop culture.
I think what made it kind of stagnant before was that it
didn't evolve with pop culture.
Yes, your your authentic die-hard, especially WWE fans.
They will probably say why are we doing that?
You're you're the integrity of the business of the company.
Why are you doing this?
But you got to keep up.
I'm okay with it.
It is probably going to be weird seeing it for a few weeks
and eventually it would just fall into like background noise
to me.
So I'm cool with it.
Hey, look and get that money.
Whatever.
Maybe they can give me some back.
You know, I'm saying maybe you can lower some of these ticket
prices lower some of these things.
I got to pay for it because I they get him so many different
ways, right?
Like cuz they prime had Logan Paul and prime had to spend
some money.
They had to put some coins on the table for them to do that.
Right.
So I was like damn these dudes is just rolling.
It's like Scrooge McDuck in all day long over there right now,
man.
Hey, let's let's let's inflate this deflate some of these
prices.
God damn it.
You know Sam.
So that way when Big Daddy got to come up in here this summer,
I ain't paying 151 50.
I'm paying, you know, a W prices give me a $49 89.
No, you probably get 89 at the lowest announced a return.
So when Georgia yet they have not but historically to come
in around they come around July, which is right around my
son's birthday usually.
So we'll see cool cool cool cool.
Last thing WWE related before I got a women's question for
you Rhodesia thoughts.
Some prayers to Angelo Dawkins.
He shared on Friday his mother passed away.
So thoughts and prayers, of course, you know, we know how
lost is just recently.
That's never an easy thing.
So hopefully he's good.
His family's good.
You we know it's part of life.
But damn whenever you lose people close to you, it can
sting.
So hopefully he's doing well.
So we're easy.
I said last week and of course you can chime in too, but but
I want Rudy's to kind of speak on it from a woman's perspective.
I think it's a little bit of fake outrage to be completely
transparent.
I also think it's a little bit of I have a fan base and I
need to make sure that they know I am advocate for women's
wrestling.
But everybody knows we love women's wrestling as possible.
I don't have to worry about that.
But there's there's a lot of there's some people who are up
in arms allegedly because one of the women's matches are not
main eventing either night one or night two of WrestleMania
and by the two women's matches.
I'm talking about the championship matches.
I'm talking Becky and Rhea and I'm talking Bailey and EO
now.
I'm seeing a lot of the story for both dictates one of them
should main event.
But here's the kicker for me.
I don't have a problem with that.
But I do have a problem with is there was their resolution
for night one is to put rock and Roman verse Seth and Cody
first to kick the show off and then have one of those said
women's matches as the main event.
What is your thoughts from a woman and a woman's perspective
your thoughts about the women not main eventing but in order
for them to main event would you put that tag match as the
opener on WrestleMania night one?
I'm not even going to answer that full question.
I'm going to just address the whole like I can but the point
of I want to get across is the women main eventing WrestleMania.
You can't just say just point-blank their writer they're
wrong because I know that there is writers and you have to
tell this story over time and you just cannot tell me that
Rhea Becky Bailey and Neo is more entertaining than anything
to do with the rock.
You just can't to me.
So again, we could take the whole question of them put rock
and the tag match first.
We know that kind of the new plot or the new show run is
you put your hot one of your hottest matches first and then
you can main event with your your next hottest one.
So I get that part there but it's the rock.
Now again, could we I can come on here and argue and say that
over this last two three months.
We should have built it to where I feel like I have to see
Becky and Rhea but I don't feel that way.
I want to see the rock on my TV screen because I'm not going
to be there live unless miracles happen.
I want to see rock ended on both nights.
So for me, I do feel like a lot of times we want to progress
as whatever box that we're in and that's okay and we should
advocate and we should be and we should champion it.
But I said this probably on the first 10 or 15 episodes of
this show.
I'm going to hold people to the same standards regardless
on if it's male or female and to me I do not think for me
that I will be happy or think that is more entertaining to
see again.
I'm using Rhea and Becky because they're like the biggest
like hottest women are already now to me personally.
I like EO and Bailey more but I think as the the mass majority
I think Rio in Rio Rhea.
I think we may be that may be about 50-50 if you were to do
a legit.
Yeah, because storyline that story's been going on for two
right years storyline.
I like damage control and that is actually when I am looking
more forward to but I'm just looking at the pops that Rhea
and Becky are getting and I just feel like I can see why
some people will feel that way and some people can truly feel
that way not because they trying to put over women but
because they truly feel that way because they're big fans
of them just like how I'm saying right now.
I'm a big fan of the Rock. I want that show to go off and
I see that.
Thank you for purchasing this pay-per-view logo.
I want to see Rock on there at the end of both.
So to me if you take Rock out of it, I can absolutely say
why don't we have a woman match on there, but then I can
go on and just say a whole lot of different things of why
we don't have even more women matches.
I mean I can go down that road but as far as just to address
that one question, how do I feel about a woman match not
main eventing night one or night two?
It's almost like I'm sorry with the most respect possible
shut up is the Rock.
I mean, I wouldn't even go that far with it because that's
that's y'all crazy tagline for everything rock related.
But yeah, yeah, I should hit the soundboard on a booth for
that one.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, but I think the women supporters of wrestling are
very very vocal.
You should see like on the wrestling game front like man
they like if you don't get like we don't we need more ways
more ways is crazy.
Like how to get these wigs like how that term is just thrown
out there man.
They are super loud advocates of women wrestling.
I get it.
And I think if it's another P you can probably get away
with that.
But as you said with the Rock and it's such a huge match
if you put all these matches just put them like on the
board and you list them like the most important or from the
top to bottom.
I think though the one of the women matches would be there
just because we got a we got to put a women's match there not
because it's a bigger match with bigger personalities and
more.
I agree.
Right.
I think we'll be doing it.
I don't think that does them justice right there's any there
have been times when you know where for me there at you know
with the Sasha and Mercedes or Sasha Banks and Bianca Baylor
match that was the importance and what that that match was
that was there but man I might have a hard time with that
match against the rock over our roll over the storyline that
we have right again.
That's the key thing.
It's not just the matchups and that's what it kind of would
have been with Rock and Roman because we didn't necessarily
have the story to support it, but there's so much story and
character now with these four men and something that stake
from night one tonight to to where you got to put that at
the end that has to be the headliner.
That's what people ultimately want to see because that has
the greatest story the most intrigue right now at wrestling.
So I don't think you do the women of the service by putting
them in a position to wear like hey, we're gonna put them
here because we need to have a woman, right?
Like I don't think any of us want to do that.
I think as a as a as a black man.
I don't like hey we got to put him here.
We need to have a black person in this position.
I want to find it's earned now.
There are occasions as I said with the women a couple years
ago to where that meant something but right now.
You got to have the rocket.
Well, not even just the rock think about it.
Cody Rhodes Roman Reigns Seth Rollins and oh, yeah, the rock
but now let me also say that on first.
Good luck to that crowd.
Oh, yeah, they're done to have hours.
Like, okay, who's topping that from an emotional investment
perspective who's topping that?
No, no one not the women either.
So now that my full statement is said there as far as that.
I can't agree that you do have rock two nights.
Why do we have to have rock?
You know, you keep saying that huh?
Rock is not on the car for two nights.
He's only on the car for night one.
Well, okay.
Sorry.
He's going to be okay Roman.
Let's go Roman and bloodline is on two nights.
Let's go bloodline.
I misspoke.
So yes, why is bloodline on both nights, but we saw this last
year. We saw this with the tag match how it ended last year.
So again, I do feel like okay, you do have the bloodline
twice.
You don't have to have the bloodline in it both nights.
I can I can see why somebody would say that but again, it
just goes back to when people buy this pay-per-view there.
They're buying it.
The majority of people are buying it because of the rock
and his influence.
That's the fact.
No, no majority majority is this finish the story.
We're in the story.
I'm sorry.
Okay, I get all attached to that.
That's what I'm saying.
That's the point that I'm getting.
Yeah, and what happens in that match is going to bleed over
to if he like right because like either way.
Yeah, it bleeds over to the main event.
It's still a question mark if he finished his story, right?
And like the way happens at the end of that match.
We kind of dictate what kind of story is going to be finished
next night.
I mean, I feel like it's a huge match.
Yeah, I get it.
This is not the time for it.
Last thing I'll say on that then now we have the opportunity
to make sure that we are building women throughout the
year so that now if we are not meaning Vinny since WrestleMania
will probably be two nights forever.
Now if they're not main event in one of those nights now, we
have a problem because they do not know.
I'm not going to use the word deserve but they should be main
event it or or you could say hey, let's make a concerted
effort going forward.
To night one is the winner of one Royal Rumble match in that
champion and night two is the winner of the other Royal Rumble
winner in that champion, whichever storyline gets hotter.
I like that finish night to one.
I love that you can make that concerted effort to do that.
I love that this year just ain't the year.
Yep.
And if they wait to rock and Roman next year with no title
line, maybe 26, how about we main event?
In both nights the women main event in both nights.
You brought up Mercedes the last pod you were not too
intrigued on the actual Dynamite show.
You were excited to watch Mercedes.
I'm going to have you kind of talk us through your thoughts
about because we can stick with Mercedes first if you want
to talk about the whole show feel free.
Oh, yeah, definitely.
We all saw Mercedes Monet debut on AEW television big business
and she did big business, right?
We had almost 10,000 people at that arena.
So you can't say she's not a draw, right?
She drew 10,000 people at that arena.
She also in her first segment.
She did a million views, right?
Now that's big that she that many people.
That's one metric.
So it could have been more right, but I think ultimately
she big business before we get into like the ratings and
overall show for me.
I thought that she did I like I know this is a little some
discord around if she should open the show versus ending
the show.
Let's talk.
I was I was I was a proponent of her opening show her with
the mission statement.
I think they did a great job with her, you know, just show
starts off with the Mercedes, you know pulling up Mercedes
limousine pulling up the door opens all of a sudden you
start they get to the arena you hear CEO CEO the new music
which is performed by Mercedes Monet, which I didn't know
until I showed that on iTunes page and she comes out.
She she cuts a very heartfelt promo.
She seemed to have the emotion, you know in her voice,
you know, the less usable in a borderline of tears talking
about wrestling a mentor.
I thought it was a great segment.
I thought was a great moment for her possibly.
I don't know the word is he might be the highest paid
women's wrestler in the world, which is great.
Like right like to move those barriers not be to sign a
contract right like so if we once again, we're talking
about sports.
We know how it is somebody has to set the market now AW
maybe on a whole nother pay scale like Osprey got broke
off or kind of got broke off.
Yep, they break.
They break some money's they break some monies for these
people.
That's the way it should be.
Okay.
Now she just set the market.
So the next hot free agent should set the market again,
you know, that's this should turn into that which is once
again makes the business so much better for all the talent
involved.
So overall two thumbs up way up for you.
Oh, yeah, well, I was very happy with her entire situation
happy with her presentation.
I thought she I thought that was a homerun hit that she
came out and did I was very very satisfied with it.
Same here my dumb, but when she first pulled up, I'm
like, oh my God, that's a Bentley pulling up.
Wait that emblem.
I'm looking I'm like wait.
So stupid.
You had to read her zone.
That's all.
I thought you had a reader's on it.
She came up even if I wasn't even the biggest asha fan
because I don't or a Mercedes fan because I don't think
I really am the biggest Mercedes fan.
That's not I think I'm not the biggest Mercedes fan when
she came out though.
I see why she got broken off.
I see why she's about to be the leader of the woman's
division there.
She's a star money bag fire mode.
It screams it her outfit.
She had on like just every time she disrobed she had another
layer of of goddessness if that's even a word and you just
overall when you you can't take your eyes off of her every
little way she moves her mouth her body her hands or hips her
little things were her little I call it the Mariah Carey
hands all of that you your eyes are locked on the screen
for her.
I think to your point about do you start the show do you
in the show you're ready to not had a conversation about
this couple days ago. That was the only option.
She wasn't advertised.
So you run the risk and yeah, we knew that she was going to
be at the show but to your point a million people tuned in
at the beginning of that show.
If you don't make a mention of her now as a casual fan who
is tuning in I don't usually watch AEW.
I'm tuning in to see Mercedes and you just start off with
a hot match or with Tony Giovanni in the ring to do a
promo segment with somebody else.
I'm probably not turning back until somebody calls me or
till I see on social media Mercedes is in the ring.
That was the only way to do it and I thought it was fantastic.
Of course.
I love the segment like you guys said it.
She's a star and it has nothing to do with how they shot her
it does but it has nothing to do with how they shot her has
none do with her music.
It does has nothing to do with her outfit.
It does.
It's her.
It's how she comes across that is somebody that is it.
There we go.
We talk we talk about it and when somebody has it they have
it and a lot of times you can't put your finger on it.
But when you see that thing in that person you say man,
that's what it is and that is what she is is it.
I loved her line in there where she said I need to be here.
I want to be here.
AW is the only place where the revolution can be global.
And I love that because there was a lot of that talk online
if she cut that, you know, she had the the podcast interview
things a podcast.
I just I know was interview and she basically said like I
still have unfinished business in WWE.
I'll be back there.
But no shit man.
We all know that right.
It's these tribalistic fans that don't understand that everybody
is going to go everywhere at some point anybody who wants
to right like Osprey talked about he picked the you know,
AW over WWE because the money was better and he didn't have
to move his family.
He's like this is a no-brainer for me.
Like yeah, I can go to WWE and be famous and work WrestleMania
or I can get everything else through AW.
But for some people that's like MJF is going to go to WWE
one day.
Yeah, and it's going to be incredible to see him on a
WrestleMania stage killing it as MJF a little bit toned down
of course, but as it's going to happen like I wouldn't be
surprised if Cody Rhodes goes back to AEW. I don't think so
because I think he's like he's submitted now is like the John
Cena of the next generation but say if he wasn't that he
was still just the biggest face in WWE at a point and his
contract is up.
I could easily see him going back for you know, a year or
two run just to tie loose ends up but that's for me where
I think just as business is going to get to so we all love
the Mercedes piece. Tell you what else I love too is her
first physicality was sky blue and she laid that forearm in
and sky blue did a hell of a job of selling it and that was
so important because that was the first piece of physicality
that she was going to have on AEW that forearm shiver is
what all the media outlets were going to pick up on outside
of her promo at the beginning of the night.
If you mess that up, you're in trouble just like Cody had
to lay in that smack to the rock which was a harder smack
than with the rock hit him on the press conference.
You got to lay it in got to lay it in because that is what
everybody's gonna pick up on and if you can see through it,
then you go through that whole thing.
We know what that looks like.
Did you guys do you guys like the finish?
At the end of the show you got her coming out to save Willow.
So she showed that okay, she is a face because the woman
who she was in the match with where she broke her ankle
or she hurt her heel whatever was she didn't attack.
Are you guys good with that?
Or would you rather her not had shown up again?
Would you rather have shown up and did something else?
Talk to me about the the end of dynamite.
For me, I think they should have did a better job of actually
to let viewers know that she's going to be back at the end
of the show.
As a segment itself, I felt I thought it was fine.
Okay, I like they're coming out had no problems with it.
Either way.
I know we talked about it briefly.
Well, we talked about it on the last episode.
We talked about the actual card itself.
So we knew Mercedes coming out and this is the thing about
AEW.
We talked about a lot about it a lot of great wrestling on
TV right now.
Lots a lot of great TV on wrestler right now WrestleMania
season is full-blown right now.
Everyone's intrigued into it and people only have so much
time.
So we got to kind of pick what we can watch and this is a
great opportunity to get all these eyes on AEW product.
And when you look at AEW that main event did the least amount
of views out of that show.
I think that main event probably should have put somewhere
in the middle and I think this is something that AEW is going
to fix they're going to work on because they have a lot of
positive things going for them.
But this is some of the details need to pay attention to so
it can keep growing their audience because WB is hot and
going no, it's not going anywhere anytime fast.
But what AEW can continue to do is build great shows with
great stars.
I don't know if you guys saw I'm not sure I share my screen
right now, but they have an excellent promotion coming up
for one of their shows.
They have Mercedes right in the middle.
They have Bryan Danielson right next to her.
They got swerve right below the bottom row.
They have the Lee they got Will Ospreay.
They have like all their stars on the page, right?
So, you know this show you're going to see an ensemble cast
of like great talent, right?
We didn't kind of get that with this show with the ratings.
If you look at it every segment they lost about a hundred
thousand viewers or more right?
They started with the million.
They ended the last segment at 627,000 the actual overall
show included under under run was under 800,000 people.
Like right now what if they would have started with with
Mercedes and they create some kind of a thread of her maybe,
you know interacting with different people or just popping
up in the segment make letting people know that she was going
to be in that last segment because if you look at that
segment as a whole we all love Willow, right?
Reho I like her but it doesn't seem like a main event style
match and I think that was reflected in those reviews.
So quick points to quick points something I really thought
about and I think I'm going to stick to it.
So to your point about the women's match main event in
the show, I think that also speaks more to Mercedes is here.
We're treating this women's division like it should have
been treated a long time ago starting now if you need to
take your lumps for a few weeks or a few months to get to
that point fine in terms of from the ratings, but the part
about the ratings I thought about it.
I thought about it.
I think I'm going to stop discussing ratings particularly
when it comes to AW less something significantly good or
bad happens and I'll tell you why just really really quick.
We know they're in contract negotiations with WBD as is
they're looking at for whoever knows how many years are
going to sign on for a billion dollar TV deal.
Their ratings are good enough to get a billion dollars.
Now if their TV show starts to deteriorate again and we go
through this cycle that we've gone through plenty of times
right when they'll hit a few good shows and then it drops
off like oh what's going on and payview comes and we're
like all bad payview is incredible.
They got chance to reset.
They reset is good for a few weeks and then you know that
vicious cycle.
Absolutely.
I think about just like how I was extremely happy with that
show on Wednesday full transparency.
I don't watch collision weekly like if some somebody tells
me something's good.
I go in DVR and because I still DVR it but like we were out
of town. I didn't get chance to watch last night show and
I probably won't go back and check it.
I'll probably just like watch the highlights but then watch
Dynamite.
They're good enough to get a massive new TV deal with their
fan base and their shows been great ever since we've had
Osprey we've had Okada, which I think they're doing great
with now we have Mercedes swerve is about to be world
champion.
They're moving almost everything for the way I would
want them to over the last.
I mean for me it's only been a few weeks.
I know some people feel like last couple months.
They've been really really hitting on all cylinder.
So I think only be fair.
We got us.
We got to start looking at this because we don't dissect
WWE segment by segment and they do some things that we
also like that match was fine.
But do we really need that or that promo segment could have
been better.
Typically we don't look and be like, all right, but man that
segment only did granted.
You know one and a half million viewers in comparison.
So I think just we got to give them a little bit of grace
there and Jim Peppermint from what I hear.
She is more than just doing stuff with the women's division.
I think a head writer or something like that, right?
Like the VP I think of like creative for television.
And if that's the case, you're starting to see some of those
things that make a little bit more sense now with threads
and such.
Yes, I get what you're saying about the ratings because I
know that I'm a wrestling fan, not just a W fan and I want
to show to grow but what I would like to stop seeing I'm
not saying what you what you're doing, but I know that a W
touted at the ratings in the demos when they were dominating
now.
They're not we don't want to look at her talk about it.
There's something to be said with that because it shows a
trend that you can fix because for me it's not about, you
know breaking down this this this company is about how can
we fix things and move up for me is always about how I let
me let me look at this lane how we can fix it and some of
the arms is just pacing and let how the shoulders are
structured and as I said last week my biggest thing was
and you know, you guys are coming for me a little bit.
You like you just it's just not for you like no, I just
think that they can do a better man a little bit.
Now we were coming for you.
We were coming for you with the whole Seth Rollins Roman
Reigns thing and you was loud and loud and wrong sir.
You were loud wrong II.
When was the last time Roman Reigns and Seth Rollins before
the Royal Rumble has had a match?
It was 2019 but but my point with that was let me ask you
a question since we going back to that my thing was on
this show.
We ran a storyline that Seth is in his over with audience
as he thinks he is his his his his music his is more over
than he is Rhodesia said a couple of days ago when all
four of those guys were in the ring that he was the person
that didn't belong in the ring.
So we haven't been a fan of him and his act in quite some
time.
So for me as a fan, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Oh now I said something wrong now.
Go ahead.
What did I say wrong now?
You said please how do I go from first of how do I go from
saying that he's doesn't belong in?
I'm going to other people versus I'm not a fan of Seth
Rollins like how do you change like that whole narrative for
me?
I just say he didn't belong with those three guys.
Anyway, so as I said as a no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
I want you to answer my question since you're trying to
call me out there.
No, what do you want me to correct so I can correct so we
can blow it to show because we got to keep it going.
What do you want me saying?
You said that because I said that Seth Rollins are you a
fan of his as I'm going to say you're been a fan the whole
time.
Okay, so I'm the one who said Seth Rollins has been the MVP
of wrestling especially for WWE over the last three to four
years.
I have said that I have receipts of that.
Okay, so these road is a road road is a fan of his so Matt
and I have said that maybe I actually I don't even believe
that actually I think that his song has been okay, but we've
been saying on the show collectively as a team that Seth
Rollins has been over as his as his as his interest.
So this a couple weeks ago.
He waited and belonging to ring with the with the other four
people.
So now it's a missed opportunity to have a match Roman
Reigns.
I'm just saying I was looking forward to it as a team.
I didn't think we were looking forward to us.
I know was missed opportunity.
No all I was saying then of course we can move on all I
was saying was they have they had a missed opportunity.
I'm not saying it should have been the main event of this
WrestleMania and that's what I kind of think you thought I
was saying like they we need to flip out Cody who need to
take the rock out and then go Roman and Seth I wouldn't say
he was a missed opportunity any pilly pilly is what I was
trying to say.
So I think you just said I think that's just what he hates
and you and you're projecting that's all that is.
So that's what you're not going to project on me or on my
character.
So let me ask you a question.
Oh, these let me ask you a question of rhodesia so you
can comment down because I think you have your husband.
How many times your does your husband say that that Seth
Rollins wasn't over as his interest music.
He says that all the times he says it all the time.
Okay, but that but that doesn't that doesn't mean that Seth
is not a good worker.
I think that's the difference.
You're a lot like these internet fans like we not talking
about him being a worker.
Now you're taking but just overall to see I don't I don't
watch wrestling to see workers.
That's I see I look for characters.
You can we call them a clown all week.
You can have a constructive criticism on somebody still be
an avid and can be an absolute fan of that person.
That's what we do with a W we're constructive with a W
because we are huge.
Well, I'm a huge a W fan so you can absolutely say something
and say that his music is more over than him.
That doesn't mean that you don't like the person anymore.
We also didn't like most of his matches this year.
Who said that the fuse?
Yeah, that was that was that I've never said that.
Yeah, I didn't like the Nakamura Nakamura ones.
We talked about that, but we let's go back to his matches.
Oh, we're circle jerking again.
It was so so back to Monet and Nika and Nika more has one
more few before I got it.
We got to have a conversation about him on this pot or at
least one more few with with with that same mo just that
whoever whoever I don't care who I don't care what the mo is.
I don't care who it is.
He's got one more few before we get on this platform and have
a serious conversation about him.
I'm sorry you go ahead man.
He's a mid-car guy.
He's fine where he is.
But um, yeah with Nick if he comes up with this cartoon one
more time and lose, you know, you know, but no like we just
uh, it's just like, you know, we look at the shows like it's
just as you say, this is just constructive is not that I'm
an AW hater.
I don't prefer the show is that I noticed that that show I
didn't think for when I if you're not a core wrestling fan,
you know, you look at that show.
It wasn't something that's going to maintain an audience.
It doesn't normally watch I thought they should come out
there with the after the show like after watching everything
you still feel like um, it wasn't good enough to have
somebody who may not necessarily watch start watching or do
you feel like okay now they did enough.
Yeah, maybe they didn't put the entire best foot forward the
way you would have done it if you were the Booker, but you
feel like what you saw on Wednesday if somebody doesn't
typically watch they would start watching AW or at least
give it a chance again.
I mean, I got me if you look at those Nelson ratings, it shows
it that the people tuned in they tuned out as the show went
on.
No, I'm saying for you.
I'm saying just to take the ratings out for what you saw
with your own eyes was entertainment factor and as a
as a wrestling fan.
I never said I didn't as a wrestling fan.
I wouldn't be interested in show.
I that wasn't my point.
My so yes to answer the question.
I thought as a wrestling fan, so this is give you a bigger
person that you guys aren't into as much as I am WWE 2k24.
I think it's the best wrestling game that's been out in a
long time, right?
I can say that guy.
I love the show.
I'm a super fan of it.
Okay, that doesn't necessarily mean that I think that maybe
road DJ who hasn't played the game in 10 years when she turns
on she's going to feel the same way I do because I don't think
that game enough is going to bring in newer people.
I think if you like the game, you're going to see them prove
it. You're going to feel the improvement and you're going to
know what I know.
That's the best one.
They put out in quite some time, right?
But I don't think there's any thing specifically about the
game that's going to bring in a newer audience when I watch
that person.
Yeah, and that's that's what I felt like when I when I looked
at that card last night.
It's to me last week.
I got better than 24.
I don't that's the best one.
So you had that as the best 2k game the best one.
So then which wrestling game do you have as the best wrestling
game of all time?
Say what again, which wrestling game do you have as the best
wrestling game of all time?
This one so true.
So not just 2k you have it better than no mercy Smackdown
versus raw that 2000 version was crazy.
All of it.
You have it.
You have it as the best wrestling game ever made.
So like it I can't go back to how I felt when I played those
games.
But when I play those games side by side right now, I mean,
there's just so much more to do got you the action the graphics,
you know, so if I can somehow, you know, take my feelings
and during that time, maybe one of those games could have
superseded but right now it's the best one and the problem
is you can't go back because even you went back and play you
like what is this jump like, you know what I'm saying?
Like talking 20 frames per second all that kind of stuff
and own say I'd say this.
I think you asked me about the final form.
I think that 2k 25 they keep progressing would be better
than 22k 24.
I don't think they finished with with the game.
I guess it's not perfect yet either.
But again, I can say that and still say hey, this is the
best game I've ever played right, but also a Jeff Lee say
that I don't think it's going to bring in roadie.
Who's probably not playing the games right?
I can still say that it's going to be another one that's going
to be better next year because this isn't done.
That's how I felt when I looked at that a w card like yes,
as a wrestling fan, I can appreciate know exactly what
they're doing and why to put people with certain people
in places, but also going to look and say like, you know
what Johnny somebody who doesn't watch a w or watch pro
wrestling all the time and they come in and see Sasha Banks
for whatever reason is saying enough to keep them watching.
I get you.
No, I got that.
I got that.
I do I do want to give them their flowers.
On I have a lot of things to give them their flowers about
today.
Yeah, which one is that which one is a you?
That was seeing punk.
One in comes your town.
I want I want to shout out Bryce Brinsburg the referee and
I also I loved what he did and during the match with Darby
and Jay white.
He made them break the count.
We give a w a lot of crap for their refereeing or lack there
of no enforcement of the rules and they're outside.
It was a spot there outside.
So all three of them are outside and Bryce is like getting
the ring.
You got to break the count and Jay looked at him.
Jay didn't want to do it at first.
Yeah, and then he did it again and it had nothing to do
with the match.
That's how I know it was more of him just protecting the
rules.
I look man like you if you're going to say out here break
go break the count and he rolled out and rolled in and he
said something to Bryce.
I love that.
I thought that was fantastic.
So I want to give him the flowers for that but to kind of
eat what you were saying just in terms of like just tightening
up some things what I wish that I would have loved for them
to do was that we now we know Darby is not climbing Mount
Everest.
He shoot legit broke his foot in that match.
Which spots was that recovery?
He's I was when he was coming off the top row.
It was a top row spot from the outside from inside from the
outside.
I don't know.
I just remember he said we came off the top rope and he landed.
I don't know if he knew at the time but the course he did
x-rays and but the universe is speaking to that man do it
ain't you ain't supposed to be going to Mount Everest right
now.
So I'm glad that was the case because how horrible would that
have been if they kind of use that as a storyline.
This may be my last match and then he fucking dies trying to
climb Mount Everest.
I'm all about you doing what you want to be able to do when
it's smart, but he probably just want to chill out on that
but um, so Jay white the turn Hill right at the end, which
I thought was great somebody on YouTube had a comment, which
I don't think we ever said Jay white was worthless.
They made a comment of like, hey tell me how Jay white is
worthless when you know, he's you know, they spotted off the
record.
He's had he's been undefeated so far this year and I said,
you know, we are all major fans of Jay's actually quite the
contrary.
Yeah, it's his position.
Yeah, he was on a pre-show.
He's with the bang bang scissor game and three of us is right
because what they do they they broke up the bang bang scissor
game right and immediately kind of thrust the Jay white back
into that nasty Hill that he should always be for right now
anyway, but back to what I was trying to say.
Um, so they do they do the the gimmick with they're about to
break Darby's ankle.
And I was telling little Matt like, okay, so you knew you
were bringing up bang bang scissor game.
I'm sure the week before you knew that was happening and
maybe you don't know how you're going to get there, but you
knew okay on this episode, we're breaking up bang bang
scissor game.
Jay white use in the promo the previous week man, it would be
a shame if something happens to you next week and you can't
climb Mount Everest and you grab, you know a bat or you
grab that chair and you kind of just tap it and then you run
that angle to add more to it.
So as soon as you start we all know everybody in arena knows
everybody on TV is watching they're like, oh, he's really
about to fucking break his ankle.
It still was effective but imagine if they would have just
added that little tweak the week before those are the things
where I just want them just to a little bit more right, but
I think that comes from just the course of decades and
decades of us watching wrestling.
We can just pick up our life man maximize that moment.
You got a good moment, but make it a great moment maximize it.
Man, I thought Jay white I love that guy man.
I like think he's won a great Hill.
I would love them to do more with them every time I see him
wrestle and him go do his thing in the ring and then I see
Rodney strong and as a champion I get irritated every time.
I find a way to head on Roderick bingo.
Hey, let's talk about let's talk about that that war low war
and those my gosh, I thought it was so anti-climatic for me.
I felt like did I miss something because it was like it
never left gears in and he got choked out.
I mean, I just again, I'm I am going to watch dynamite this
coming Wednesday to kind of see what happens after that.
But if I wasn't so much of a w fan, I probably would be pissed
and say I'm not going to but that match to me did not stop.
You got to explain why because to me the match itself felt
like it never even switched gears.
It just seemed like a completely just like a blah for that.
I think that was the first match of the night to like after
following Mercedes.
Are you sure that's why you feel that way though?
Because the Mercedes segment was so good.
Who knows who knows maybe I think that may be why you felt
but I but I still feel like that match didn't didn't leave
and then you right before the match started it ends with
Adam Cole reading out of the book of whatever he's reading
out of and he's supposed to win and now he didn't so like
I said as a fan.
I'm going to watch on dynamite to see what happens next.
But to me, unless you're ready to now take were low to be
completely by himself again, which he should always be.
I think I don't know if I wasn't a huge a w fan if I would
have been happy with that.
That's nuts.
You swerve is winning the title at Dynasty.
Why would you flip it on were low just for him to lose it
in a month and you know that he's winning that title at
Dynasty so we couldn't get any any other kind of ending
on outside of him being choked out.
That's like see you.
Okay.
So you so your thing is the choke out part.
Yes, that's your oh and also in the match was just never
got out of second gear either.
So Lisa didn't tap.
I mean, I don't think he would make like a job.
I think it just I think it helped Joe more than it hurt
war low to be honest.
It just to me hurt one.
Yeah, I mean I just I guess maybe because I knew he wasn't
winning the title.
See finally, I actually agree with the road is on a w topic
because I felt the same way when I actually watched that
because I'm already out of the whole undisputed Kingdom
thing.
I think that those guys look horrible.
I mean like we just the tag team champions got beat up
by one man just a week or so before right and then their
big bad enforcer gets choked out clean on in front of their
biggest audience in some time and now I'm supposed to take
this faction and continue to take them facts this fashion
seriously or or or or you can say now you just added another
bullet in the chamber for Samoa Joe.
So when swerve does beat him it means even more like like
what's more important at this point protecting war low or
getting swerve where he needs to get to and we will say we
will all say the latter is the last word for sure is to get
to so he's got to like he's got to lose ain't no ain't no
shame in losing the smoke.
You know what I'm gonna be like the great Donald Trump man.
I'm not gonna let you back me in the corner.
There's a third option was third option is a not booked
a match number two.
You can you can protect war low right or in another one get
these clowns off my TV.
I don't need to see the under can't under underwhelming.
That's right.
The underwhelming the underwhelming Kingdom of Science
on my TV, right?
I don't need to see him like it get this a preface of things
need to do you may just given us our you may have given us
our title the under Kingdom that is fantastic.
Yeah, no, it now if I was booking it.
No, I wouldn't have done it that way.
I would have probably had the Kingdom try to interfere
somehow maybe in that fires.
I would have done something different.
I'm saying in totality if we got to do one or the other give
me maybe I'm just on a high.
I know swerve is winning the title.
Yeah, like so I'm just like, all right, whatever we got to
do to get to that point.
Okay, whatever.
I'm good with it.
I just got a couple of production things and then I'm done
one.
I absolutely loved after the Mercedes thing when Renee I
forgot who she was interviewing.
I might have been Joe.
She was actually interviewing Joe.
The first thing she said was hey, she addressed that we
just saw Mercedes because they just came back from commercial
and she had mentioned that the Mercedes returned welcome.
That's something I don't think we've gotten before.
So I really love that.
I love the new I'm gonna call it a commercial their new
Dynamite commercial that is all fire to me.
Like I thought the production and how look yes very NXT
2.0 ish looking but I liked it.
It was really cool.
I mean, then just my last part my worry and my concern and
that was one of the reasons to why I wanted Osprey to go to
WWE was him being able to talk on a mic and he proved me
wrong.
He smoked it.
Loved his promo.
Yeah, I love it.
It was him and you could tell it was him and for him to have
that passion.
Oh my and then just like the little things about what I love
about Osprey to he's super hyped super and then he tosses
the mic back to Tony Siobhan and shook his hand and left
valiantly like I loved everything about that.
So were my only concern I felt about will that maybe he doesn't
have it on the mic at least on Dynamite.
He proved me wrong.
I spray as a star comes across as a star.
It looks like a star.
They're doing him right.
They're doing Okada, right?
They started with Mercedes, right?
As of right now and we really early in it.
They're three for three, you know, the Copeland and Christian
thing is still going on the jury's out on that.
We know the jury's been out.
Well, the majority of their signings started strong and then
kind of died died out outside of Brian outside of coal.
They there they got some really good momentum.
So right now I'm really happy with where they are and I just
got to keep building.
They got to keep building.
We you know, I guess we'll hear from Mercedes Wednesday.
We still don't know what her first few is going to be.
So it should be good.
It should be really good last thing on AW and then we can get
out of here.
Where does a where does Mercedes debut rank?
In a W.
And just how much you enjoyed it.
So just enjoyment level not impact.
We'll talk about that in a few weeks, but enjoyment level
when it was, you know, 815 or 820 whatever time that segment
was over.
Are you putting it?
After punk one or two you put it before punk one or two you
putting it before coal you putting it after coal you putting
it after Brian where you putting it at?
Oh, they're close to me punk and Mercedes are close.
I kind of you know, the being a big seeing punk fan in me.
I thought it was just I thought the guy was never going to
come back and wrestle again just based on all the interviews
and his attitude towards and seem like it just almost changed
overnight.
So seeing him back was big for me as a fan, but I love the
all the positivity around Mercedes and her debut.
I think they did right by whether they view I think they
did.
I mean they did everything everything they can do.
I think he did it.
Correct way.
I love that that she got the proper intro into into that
company.
I guess I might I know some cop.
I might say it's they're they're side by side.
You going to tie there right there.
Right there.
My favorite is purely just based off of my fandom for the
person and I still don't know who to me personally who's
going to beat the return of Brian Danza that that just that
meant so much to me that hit me so deep so mine is Brian
solid with Mercedes probably after that.
So after that one, yeah, and what it was because you had
cold 30 seconds before that it was the back to back that
was just like what the fuck is happening right now?
In terms of enjoyment level, I'm going to go third.
I'm a gold.
Nothing's ever going to touch touch punt his first comeback
nothing outside of MJF was to debut at WrestleMania cost
Cody the match right like something astronomical for that
to touch the last dance or the first dance thing they caught
it.
So give me that one first and then I would take the coal
and Brian combo because we were there live because I just
remember that feeling of man they have really arrived.
I'm just the glee in the concessions of walking all of
us walking to the car.
We just like yo, what do we just see?
I can't believe they did that and then I will go Mercedes
but I would probably say from a perspective of watching
it and feeling like this can be massive.
It's number two.
That is the feeling I have watching it.
It's just like if they do this, right?
We know what Mercedes brings to table.
Hell you brought up her song that's on Apple music.
If they do like top 20 after the first 24 hours of like
all songs fan base is like that big near that, you know,
rabbit for her.
It's not that good.
It's okay.
But the top 20 don't get us cancer of all this shit that
we said don't get us cancer because you said her song is
just okay.
Hey, I'll be honest with you.
I won't get over.
I went to talk about the song.
I don't want to I want to go and do it.
I'm like, we all agree.
We all agree that is what is known need not be said.
Hey, but we can't but we can't talk about next week is
that we got a brand new tournament happening on a W
always television.
You have the brackets in front of you.
I don't but we can look at him this week man.
Brody.
I know you gonna be excited about this.
We got the ROH TV Women's Championship.
Yes.
I thought you talked about the tag team.
No, baby.
I'm talking about the ROH TV Women's Championship, baby.
You got to talk about.
Oh, come on.
What am I doing?
What am I what am I clapping for?
They the crowd.
Check up on me.
Make sure I'm feeling all right.
You all may not hear from me on Wednesday.
I can't I can't I can't talk about it.
Oh, wait.
Frackin tournament.
That's not happening.
We out of here y'all catch y'all on Wednesday.
That's nuts.