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Here it is Wednesday and the same folks on social media that's starting hashtags and

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maybe have not seen soap and water since Friday night are still going strong in these internet

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social media streets talking about Cody or we riot or we want Cody and he got the Rewant

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Rocky.

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I just want entertaining wrestling.

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Is that too much to ask for?

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Can we start our new hashtag of like hashtag?

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Let's just let it play out and enjoy what we have in front of us.

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Is that too many characters?

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Yeah, maybe.

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I mean you get 250.

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That may be too many, but we'll figure it out.

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Before the end of the episode, we can figure out what our hashtag is going to be for normal

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people that don't take things so serious and send death threats to folks and hope people

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die and make the Rock's daughter get off social media because y'all blowing her inbox up with

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ridiculousness.

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Y'all gotta stop.

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Y'all gotta relax.

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This is a entertainment field.

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This is a medium of entertainment that you're supposed to watch and enjoy.

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And then we can have our back and forth and have a good time talking about it.

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But all that extra nonsense.

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Y'all gotta, y'all gotta relax.

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Y'all gotta relax.

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Tranquilo as Andrade would say.

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Rordija is in the house.

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Eshaan is in the house and you guys know me.

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I am in the house.

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Episode 107 of the TFW podcast.

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That's freaking wrestling.

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We're going to talk some freaking wrestling.

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And I think the best way to start is probably watching Raw this past Monday in the opener.

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Seth Rollins comes out and we got Cody and we got Drew McIntyre.

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I just thought to myself, man, wrestling is the best when things don't go the way it's

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planned to go.

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It's the best.

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We didn't think Rock was going to come do what he did or maybe so.

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We'll talk about that too.

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We got some conflicting people saying one thing.

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One person says this is the plan from the jump and everything is going beautiful to

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plan.

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The other person says it wasn't a plan and this is what it is.

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So we'll talk about that too.

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But just watching Seth react to the crowd organically with the Rocky Sucks chants, seeing

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Cody come out there, seeing Drew come out there.

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I'm just spinning back and I'm like, this is the fun stuff.

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This is what it's supposed to be like when things don't go the way they're supposed to.

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Let me ask you guys, we've talked on this podcast for weeks and weeks and weeks and

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weeks and weeks about Drew McIntyre and how he's doing some of the best work of his career.

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We're hoping he is resigned because we're like, hey, he needs to be resigned.

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He's like, hey, I would like him if there was a good creative team in AEW to go to AEW

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just because we want him to maximize his potential and who he is.

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Is there anybody right now clicking like Drew McIntyre in all of wrestling?

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It'd be hard to find them.

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I mean, you might have Swerve, maybe a couple people, NXT based off of NXT levels, but no,

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Drew Drew's him.

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Like if they got the whole we want Cody, I'm about to start we want Drew.

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We're probably not starting there.

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Probably somebody has already said that, but let's go with hashtag we want Drew.

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Drew McIntyre is actually moving up my top 20 list.

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I think he's he's up there.

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I have to look at my list again to see who I'm bumping.

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But he's up there, man.

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After that, we're going to get into it because I want to I want to touch base with that baby

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face promo that Drew McIntyre baby face promo that baby face promo that Drew McIntyre hit

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on Raw because it was no caps to be had with that Drew McIntyre promo.

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What a man.

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What a man.

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What in particular did you guys enjoy the most?

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I'll tell you what I enjoy the most about that.

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Just the whole interaction right was they leaned into what's happening.

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That was number one for me when Cole kept saying in the first opening segment like hey,

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we'll talk through what happened throughout the show.

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We'll tell you the stories around it.

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And then you had Pat kind of saying like hey, Cody's been trending for three days straight.

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It seems like anybody who has a Twitter is all they've been tweeting about is WWE.

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I was like man, that's kind of cool.

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All right, cool.

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But then for them to use it like in the ring in front of the crowd where Drew says this

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thing and Cody didn't say anything actually, which was I was okay.

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I guess there must be holding off till Thursday because he didn't say anything really.

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He hit his line about what do we want to talk about?

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Cody, you know what the hell we want to talk about.

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You know what we want to talk about.

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And then that's when Drew came out.

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But what in particular did you guys really enjoy about that opening segment that kind

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of got that show off and running on the right path?

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One of the commentators had said, I can't remember, but they said, oh, is this 1996?

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And that was just, it popped me.

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It popped me because again, they never thought that they'd be hearing Rocky's Suck Chance

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again in WWE.

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So that's probably the biggest thing that caught me.

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I love that babyface promo.

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Guys, let's go ahead and let me play this babyface promo that Drew cut and then we can

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get into that opening segment a little further because I thought it was great television

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and I really appreciate Drew McIntyre as the awesome human being that he is to be able

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to speak some truth on that raw last night.

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So let me go ahead and just play this little audio and we'll talk through it.

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I think I speak on behalf of everybody when I say, what the hell?

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I laid you both up perfectly for WrestleMania and you're potentially going to screw it all

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up.

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Seth, you're the only other person that hates punk as much as me.

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You knew how bad he would be for this place and I took him out.

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We were supposed to be in this ring, you and I tonight talking about our main event match

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for the world title at WrestleMania.

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Oh, you like that?

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I even had the t-shirt commissioned for us.

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Your extra smile's in the back.

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Why did you have to get inside his head?

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Why Cody?

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Don't listen to him.

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You've got to finish the story.

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You've been talking about it for two years now.

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Think about last year's WrestleMania.

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Think about all the work you've done this year on TV, off TV, the media events.

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You've earned this moment.

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Don't let me down.

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Don't let your family down.

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Don't let all these people down and all the people across the world.

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I don't want to go here because everybody else does.

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I was close with the man.

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I was his champion in Florida Championship Wrestling, but don't let your dad down.

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Hey, Drew, look, you ain't got to be a prick, all right?

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Look, what in the world?

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There it is.

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There it is, guys.

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I said justice for daddies everywhere.

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Actually, you made a nasty hashtag.

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Justice for daddies everywhere.

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That's horrible, man.

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That is filthy.

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He has to finish the story for his daddy, right?

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Every son that wants to make their dads proud all over the country.

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That's what is on Cody Rose back right now, guys.

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Finishing the story and making that dad proud.

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That's where we're at right now, guys.

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Amazing promo.

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Drew McIntyre, somebody's getting bumped.

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I'll let the world know, Drew, I'll DM you.

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You've seen enough, huh?

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You've seen enough?

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I'll let you know who's off the list.

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Drew's the goat.

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Drew's number two.

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Drew's number two.

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He's on the top ten.

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Sean Michaels one.

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Drew McIntyre two.

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He's on top 20.

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I love that Seth tried to get some get back with Roman.

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Hey, that's a pretty good pop there when they sung his song and hit his line.

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He said it twice.

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He kind of, that second time was cringy.

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He was like, come on.

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I didn't think it was cringy at all.

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I think he tried to get his get back.

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It just didn't hit the same though.

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It didn't hit the same.

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Right, right, right.

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If Roman said it.

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All right, so let's try to summarize and kind of catch everybody up on.

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Just where we are.

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So as of right now, we say, I don't know shit.

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Correct.

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So as of right now, this is where we are.

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We have Cody Rhodes still not knowing what he's doing at WrestleMania.

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We don't know what Seth's doing.

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And it's genius.

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Drew McIntyre is feuding with everybody.

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He comes out the end of Raw and hits Cody with a Claymore and looks at the WrestleMania

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sign.

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Okay, how could we even begin to get to that?

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He makes a comment to Seth around like, Hey, you've lost to this guy like three times already.

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Like it should be my championship match.

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So I think that's genius.

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That's what we're getting on television.

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Now we go behind the curtain and backstage and things of that nature.

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Cody Rhodes sends out a tweet last night.

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I think it was doing raw.

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Actually, he was doing raw at 930 PM.

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Okay, so 930.

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So we got an hour and a half left or wherever you are central time.

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I'm not sure Eastern time.

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He says, appreciate the passion.

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God bless y'all dot dot dot.

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But trust me, he's at y'all like why a LL?

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Oh yeah.

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Why?

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He's a brother.

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So he's a brother to your sister, right?

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So I take that as they told him, look, if you don't get your fan base in order, they

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don't screw everything up.

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We're going to throw you in the main and you taking another pin you losing and you're going

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to wait for another year.

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That's what I took it as.

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Or he can be an adjunct over the top at a real match.

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You go again on a pre show.

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He goes from the main event to the pre show because he's dumb as hashtags that they got

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going on.

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So he sent that.

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He's got like six and a half or 7 million views just on that tweet alone craziness.

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Dave notes or comes out and states, this is the plan all along.

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They want to do a Daniel Bryan 2.0.

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Yes.

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Movement is working to perfection.

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That's what he says.

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Sean Ross says Cody was told you're working Roman at WrestleMania a week ago.

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Well if he was told you're working Roman at mania, then this was not the plan.

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I asked you guys, seeing how some of this stuff is being played out, seeing how really

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we have no answers.

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I'm guessing we're going to get the answers at Thursday's press conference, which is now

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must watch TV, must watch television.

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Is there a chance you guys think this was their plan all along?

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No, I really think losing punk.

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Let me take the back.

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Was this a possibility?

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Sure.

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They're running a company that injuries happen, so they have to be able to say flexible.

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Was this a possibility?

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Sure.

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But I think going into this WrestleMania, the last penciled in thing or even pinned

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in thing is that it would be Cody and Roman.

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I like things to make sense and none of it makes sense.

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I'm at the point now with Uncle Dave that I only listen to half of what he says.

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I think it's information.

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I don't know if all the information he gets is accurate all of the time.

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Because some stuff just doesn't make sense.

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We need to just figure it out.

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But if this was the plan all along, why did Cody win the Rumble and then immediately point

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to Roman Reigns and say, I'm choosing you?

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If the plan all along was for Rock to challenge me.

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It just doesn't add up.

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Also part of the plan is this thing.

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The Rock at this point in his career, this might be his last match.

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Maybe he has another match or two.

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That looks damn good for his age.

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I mean, he's one of the biggest dudes in the company already.

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For The Rock, he's building a brand.

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I can't believe he expected to be booed in buildings and have the most disliked video.

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This couldn't have been part of the plan.

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Like none of this stuff is happening the way they wanted it to.

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So I don't think this was part of the plan, but if it is, make it make sense.

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I was hoping, just to kind of go back on Raw, I was hoping that we would get some explanation

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instead of actually getting Cody coming out there saying nothing and then having a bull

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rope match at the end.

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I need to know what's popping fam.

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Like none of it makes sense to me.

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I like that though.

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I didn't have a problem with it just because it was enough on Raw.

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I even tweeted out after Raw, mission accomplished for Raw.

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Now all eyes on Thursday.

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If you're going to do that press conference, yeah, like, okay, I'm cool.

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I'm cool with you not giving us any answers.

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You gave us just enough.

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You gave us enough to let us know, hey, we hear you fan base.

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Nothing has been announced yet because Cole was adamant on, hey, seemingly Rock and Roman

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are on a collision course for WrestleMania, but we don't know anything yet.

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Tune into the press conference.

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I actually thought that was just once again, another smart piece of business for them.

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So I was okay with that.

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I definitely didn't care about this bull row match.

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That's right.

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They could have skipped that.

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I don't care about that bull rope.

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Like I want to know what's on this man's mind.

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I want to know the story.

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I want to know the promo.

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I don't care about the match.

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Yeah, that's it.

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I do wonder.

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I was watching Cody, right?

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When he came out, he didn't say anything.

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And then there was a clip they posted right after Raw where he gets on the mic and he

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gets teary eyed, he basically talks about, they started the, we want Cody chant.

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And he's like, you guys don't know how much that means to me because forever I've just

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wanted you guys to want me.

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And then I forgot what he says, like at the end of that.

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And then I was thinking like, is that why the fan base has such a connection to Cody

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like in this moment?

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Like we know Cody's over.

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We know Cody is going to be the face of WWE.

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We know he's by far their number one face.

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Take that out.

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Take out him being Cody Rhodes and him being just the number one face.

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If say LA Knight was the number one face or say Seth Rollins was the number one face or

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say Jey Uso was the number one face.

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I don't think we get this type of like support, this outcry of support for them.

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And I think it's because of Cody's personality.

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We know Cody is very emotional and I just wonder if the fan base feels like Cody can't

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speak up for himself.

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Like he's going to get walked over like backstage.

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And if we don't do something, then this is what is going to happen.

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Because he is so emotional.

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Are some people interpreting as we need to defend him?

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Weakness.

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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Cause he can't defend himself.

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And then I go back just to his tweet at the end of his tweet for him saying, trust me,

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what he's saying guys is like, guys, relax.

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This is going to work out perfectly.

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Whatever they decide to do.

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And I'm asking you guys this in a second on what do you absolutely do not want them to

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do?

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We, a lot of times we always talk about what, you know, what do you want to happen?

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I want to ask you guys what, what is the thing you just do not want to come out of this press

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conference on Thursday?

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After all of this, after death threats, after all of this getting my blood pressure high

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and I'm not even on the internet like that.

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If they do an about face or a pivot and it is not rocking Roman at Mania in a solo match,

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I'm going to be pissed.

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So that's what we better not do.

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So that is out of everything that can happen.

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Out of everything that can happen.

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That is what the most you do not want to see.

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Okay.

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Now take that back.

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The most thing I would not want to see is a triple threat at WrestleMania with Roman

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Rock and Cody.

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That's probably the absolute worst waste of time, waste of star power, waste of all of

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that.

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Cool.

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E what you say?

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Let me go back to the Cody thing.

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Cause as a Cody fan, I don't think it's about Cody being weak.

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I think that's really missing the mark about his character and his story.

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The reason why fans resonate with him is because he has a relatable story and character.

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As I said, I mean, he's, he, yes, he, he, he was a rich kid growing up, but he also

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was a guy that was pushed aside and given, given a gimmick.

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He said that, Hey, you can't be who you want to be.

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You got to be this guy.

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I made, I made up in Stardust, right?

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He took a chance, bet on himself, reinvented himself, came back.

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It's the whole story.

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So you look at the whole totality of who he was, what he's been through, all of that.

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And not just in this moment, it's time to give him the title.

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And it looks like maybe there's a roadblock now at Mania.

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He's not going to get the title.

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You're saying, no, it's because of who just Cody Rhodes is as a wrestler, as a character,

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as a personality, everything we've known from him is why there's that connection.

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Absolutely.

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Cause on this show, we always say characters and stories matter.

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Right.

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And finally we have a character in the story that resonates.

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This is a guy that's reinvented himself, kind of started from the bottom, worked his way

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back up to where he is.

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He's super humble with it.

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Right.

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And every day he's out there with the kids.

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He's with the fans trying to rebuild his reputation.

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And that speaks to fans.

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We understand that.

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Like, okay.

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Yeah.

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Cause we all want to make somebody proud.

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Right.

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If that's not your parents, that's your significant others, your kids, you just want to do the

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best job and you want to be the best vision yourself.

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It's an easy story for anybody to understand.

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What's happening in this moment is that, you know, a year ago, right, you know, like Matt

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and some other big wrestlers were said like, Hey, you know what?

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Cody's loss was the best thing that ever can happen to him.

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Don't worry about it.

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They're going to take care of Cody next year.

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Well guess what?

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Next year is here.

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And within a month before WrestleMania, you don't get that big moment.

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You don't get that revenge spot.

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Wait another year, wait another couple of months.

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But nobody's here.

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And so I, so it doesn't matter.

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It doesn't matter when it's, it's the time is now.

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It's not next week.

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It's not next month.

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It's not four months.

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According to the fans and the people that were booing at that arena last night, Matt.

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That's the, that's according to it.

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So let's stay on that.

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What if, what if Cody was scheduled to lose again to Roman Reigns at WrestleMania at night

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two?

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We don't know it was a wonder 100% fact that he was going to beat Roman Reigns.

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We would hope so, but I'm going to interrupt you.

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You said we were good one more year.

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So you're telling me on the second year, they still was going to not give us what we were

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looking for.

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Which is that's fine.

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When I'm asking you, at the, at, so I will hope at some point a business knows how to

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market to their fan base.

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You, this is just like a relationship.

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Like you can't continuously not give your spouse or your significant other what they

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want.

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You can't continuously make them wait until when they get dusty.

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And it's happened to dusty though, numerous times and dusty was a top face.

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He lost numerous times to Ric Flair.

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He lost more to Ric Flair than he ever won against Ric Flair.

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Also look up dusty Rose title history.

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He's won it multiple times as well.

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But I'm talking about when we, till we got to that point though, when, when it was time

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for him to finally beat the big bag wolf, he failed or he lost again and again.

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It wasn't, he didn't go two years in a row losing.

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He didn't go three years in a row losing.

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He won that championship at some point.

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Now that's what was called the dusty finish.

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Cause so they found a way to kind of take the title away from them and kind of continue

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that climb and that kind of thing.

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But he didn't go two, three years not winning the prize.

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That's too long to make anybody wait, especially the world that we live in today.

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This ain't the eighties.

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People don't have, we have something called instant gravitation.

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Like if the full series ain't on Netflix, I don't want to watch it.

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Okay.

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Cause like that's where we are nowadays.

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People ain't trying to wait two, three years to finish off on a story.

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People kind of want it pretty quickly.

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So the fact that they got into this point and they're patient enough, they needed to

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deliver on the goods.

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Okay.

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But say it wasn't, I just want to, I just want to get to that part.

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And this isn't a gotcha moment.

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This is like legit asking both of you guys this question.

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Say if the plan was not for Cody to beat Roman, say there was some BS in the game again, but

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we're going to, I don't know, just hell say summer slam.

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Say the MSG, whatever say it's now that we're involved in TKO, we're going to do a one off

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biggest show in history with NBC.

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We signed that deal and it's going to be on national TV, whatever.

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Right.

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But just say the deal was not for him to win night two at WrestleMania.

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If the fan base knew that, do you think they would still act the same way with these?

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We want Cody chance and this just take over that they have on social media.

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They, they couldn't because you're just saying we want it Roman and Cody, but that's my guarantee

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of who's winning.

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So I mean, I am a Cody fan, not over a Roman fan.

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I would be even more pissed.

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I think if it is now Cody enrollment and Cody still loses, I would be more pissed in that

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outcome.

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And then to me, I think you are burying Cody at that point versus if Cody just never went

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against Roman at all.

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And it was Roman and rock.

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Just to be like 2018 again, when you're turning off the fan base, that's, this is the reason

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this is what helped birth AEW is because you had Vince McMahon thinking he knew more of

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what the fans wanted than we knew.

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Right.

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And so eventually people get tired of that kind of stuff.

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You can't keep playing with people's money.

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That's what this is.

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This is an emotion business.

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You're getting, you're, you're trying to take people on an emotional roller coaster.

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Right.

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So eventually you want to get to a satisfying result.

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If you don't satisfy your fan base, you're going to turn them off and droll.

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So as hot as they've been, you can risk souring them.

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You can risk a large portion of the fan base.

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You think about just something as small as this.

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Like, look, I'm okay with it.

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A cancellation prize.

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I mean, I don't prefer it.

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I don't prefer it.

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I would like to see Cody get his, his, his, his, his comeback victory against Roman, but

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they can give me a win and he wins the other championship and they do something.

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Okay.

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I'll be okay with it.

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But you see, there's a lot of people who aren't okay with that.

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What knowing, but knowing he's going to get it soon from Roman, I guess that's the thing

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too.

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Like say if we do get Cody and Seth, I don't care what the finish is on that, whatever

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we know we're still going to get to Cody and Roman and that's going to be the stamp of

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it is now your company.

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Here you go.

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But here's the thing.

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We don't know shit.

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Cause we, we said a year ago that we would get a mania match and then we kind of between

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rock and I mean rock.

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Uh, yeah, I'm sorry.

480
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Roman and Cody, they're, they almost, they're maybe considering taking that away from us.

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So anything can happen.

482
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Yeah.

483
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But I'm only going off of what Cody said, right?

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Cause one, he says, trust me, but then on that promo on Friday for him to say, I moved

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my own goalpost.

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It started with me taking the title from you.

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Now I want to take everything from you.

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I would think by him saying that he knows what the finish is supposed to be.

489
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:53,560
There's been nothing leading up to this year's WrestleMania where you feel like Cody has

490
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,880
told his fan base I'm winning at WrestleMania.

491
00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:02,000
Well, I would say that something's changed because at Royal Rumble, he pointed to Roman

492
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,640
and said, I'm choosing you.

493
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:04,720
I want you.

494
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,440
And then the next week he changed the goalpost.

495
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:08,440
And here's the thing.

496
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:09,440
Here's the thing.

497
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,840
Like this is, I think something happened within that time period, right?

498
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:17,440
Cause there's reports that saying that when the match was being changed internally, Cody

499
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,880
had expressed to the office that he didn't think it would go over well.

500
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,240
I don't think this is going to work.

501
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,600
This may not go the way you guys think.

502
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:25,600
Right.

503
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,280
So Roni, we got this.

504
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:32,800
That promo, he's just being a company man and trying to say whatever needs to be said.

505
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:33,800
Okay.

506
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:38,000
If you're moving the goalpost and you're stepping to the side, when you have a golden opportunity

507
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,800
right now to finish your story, I need to know why.

508
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,200
Like, I mean, right.

509
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,440
You know, we don't know why on Friday.

510
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,000
We don't know why on Monday.

511
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,000
Right?

512
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,120
So here, like we need to know this is, but here's what we do know.

513
00:26:52,120 --> 00:26:53,120
Right?

514
00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:58,280
Here's what we do know or what we think we know is that Rock pulled some kind of power

515
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:04,040
play and decided that it was best for business for him to be in the main event with Roman

516
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,360
Reigns instead of Cody.

517
00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:07,360
That's what we do know.

518
00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:14,080
And so the fans, the fans know that that's a fact and, or, or I'm not saying we know

519
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,320
as a fact, but that's what we put out there.

520
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:17,320
Right.

521
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:26,720
Or, and, or we know Rock has told him something incredible for him to go to the side for this

522
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:27,720
WrestleMania.

523
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,560
We need to find out what has Rock promised him, what did Rock say to him?

524
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,280
Because he said, you know, whatever he said, take it under advisement or whatever.

525
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,100
I forgot whatever the word he said.

526
00:27:36,100 --> 00:27:44,080
You would have to think then Rock had given him something to where he's like, you're right.

527
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,960
Let me do this, whatever that moment is going to be.

528
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,580
So before I, then I get to like what the easiest path of this is.

529
00:27:50,580 --> 00:27:57,100
So Thursday's press conference, what is the number one thing you do not want to see that

530
00:27:57,100 --> 00:28:03,320
if this is what they say, you're like, Oh, this is not, absolutely not.

531
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:08,960
Man, I'm just trying to keep my fandom going, man.

532
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:09,960
The nice trip out, man.

533
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:10,960
I don't know.

534
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,040
I don't know, man.

535
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:18,120
Like as long as Cody is represented properly, I'll be fine.

536
00:28:18,120 --> 00:28:22,000
I don't want to think about the worst case scenario because the worst case scenario is

537
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:28,640
him wrestling night one or night two and not winning for whatever reason, because they

538
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,520
want to continue.

539
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,720
So this is the thing with Dusty, right?

540
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:38,360
Because I think that, I think Cody, if it came out and said that he was kind of in favor

541
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,720
of losing at last year's Mania because that's what Dusty did back in the day, right?

542
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:48,720
Dusty would lose, but then he'll scrap his way back up and you know, he'll kept clawing

543
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:53,640
and try to get to Ric Flair because the money was in the chase, not necessarily the capture

544
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,920
because that's what those guys were there at the heart of things.

545
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,640
Wrestling was carny back in the day, right?

546
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:05,600
So he was always trying to be in the pursuit mode.

547
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,600
I don't think that's going to work.

548
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,120
So like, I don't like, they're not going to come out and say, Hey, you know, um, whatever

549
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,160
match Cody is going to be, he's going to lose.

550
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,280
I don't think they're going to say that.

551
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,720
So I can't think of, I don't maybe want to think about a worst case scenario because

552
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,280
I'm okay with the Rock and Roman match.

553
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,920
If we got to get it, let's get it.

554
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,720
I don't think the universe wants it.

555
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,200
I hate to say that universe, right?

556
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:32,360
But I mean, they kind of do have their own little fan base.

557
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:37,760
I'm okay with the Cody and Seth, but man, that, that match just seems kind of underwhelming.

558
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:43,160
Well, and especially after Monday, they didn't do enough to put the logs on the fire for

559
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,880
you to say, ah, and that's why I wonder if we don't hear that match somehow some way

560
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,360
at Thursday's presser.

561
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,360
They got it.

562
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,160
They got to say what Cody's doing, but there wasn't enough at the end of raw where you're

563
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:59,440
like, I want to see Seth and Cody more because Drew kind of drew blew it up.

564
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,760
He said, hey, that up, he money that Cody beats you three times, which you want to get

565
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:04,760
beat for a fourth.

566
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,680
Like, what are we doing?

567
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,920
So like the intrigue on that match is almost like, all right, Cody has to win, but geez,

568
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:12,920
Louise.

569
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,800
Why he going to beat Seth four times in a row?

570
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,960
We know Cody can beat him, but Seth did say something.

571
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,680
He's like, but I need to know I can beat you.

572
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:21,680
I did like that.

573
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:28,040
Get back to 30 Thursday's presser, Rhodesia, me and you are right there together.

574
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:32,200
It was, it's like one a one B and one a is absolutely the triple threat mass.

575
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:37,400
The other thing I do not want to see that I'm seeing floated around here is, um, Cody

576
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,800
first Roman with rock as a special guest referee.

577
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:40,800
Absolutely not.

578
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:41,800
Nope.

579
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:42,800
No, thank you.

580
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:43,800
I think that is the triple threat match.

581
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,800
If they announce a triple threat match, I would be livid.

582
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,840
Of course I'll let it play out.

583
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:50,840
I would be livid though.

584
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:51,840
That does nothing for anybody.

585
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,880
And the reason why I say it does nothing for anybody.

586
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,000
Number one is okay.

587
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,000
Cody wins.

588
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,160
I say he wins, right?

589
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,600
I don't care if he pins Roman.

590
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,960
I don't care if he pins the rock.

591
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,680
You didn't do it on your own.

592
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,320
That's a fail for Cody.

593
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,880
This needs to be on his own in my opinion.

594
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:15,160
If you include Cody in the rock enrollment, head of the table, tribal chief, he doesn't

595
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,000
even belong in that story.

596
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,180
So now you take away from that story is that that is, they could not do that.

597
00:31:21,180 --> 00:31:23,000
That can not happen.

598
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,360
Separate these things.

599
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:35,160
Um, I brought up what if Cody was supposed to lose again at mania, say if he was supposed

600
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,280
to win at mania against Roman.

601
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:50,960
The easiest thing to do is for them to announce in Vegas, the main event of WrestleMania 40

602
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:55,920
is going to be rock versus Roman.

603
00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:01,140
In the main event of elimination chamber is going to be Cody Rose versus Roman Reigns.

604
00:32:01,140 --> 00:32:02,640
We can still do that.

605
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:03,640
And I'm okay.

606
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:04,640
I'm okay with that.

607
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,000
And that is where Cody wins against Roman.

608
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:12,120
No it's not at mania, but he's still going to win in front of 45,000 people.

609
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,120
That's still going to be his moment.

610
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,200
And then he can take that belt into mania.

611
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,360
And if he wants to, you know, then we can play around with, okay, what does that look

612
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:21,360
like?

613
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:22,360
Is it Drew?

614
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:23,360
Is it Randy?

615
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:29,240
Then he can really have his moment and that can be the night one main event.

616
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,940
And then I think you really soften the blow for anybody who's upset about the whole Cody

617
00:32:33,940 --> 00:32:38,320
thing and you can be able to get to rock and Roman with no issues for the most part.

618
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,440
There's still going to be some people who are upset because they're going to look at

619
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:45,360
it as this should have been Cody's WrestleMania moment.

620
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,960
But he's the champ going into mania and coming out of mania.

621
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:49,960
He's the champion.

622
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,280
That would be the easiest way to do it.

623
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,320
I don't think they're going to do that though, because I think just once again, with CSAO

624
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:59,320
man, yeah, I think with what Cody making that comment, I'm taking everything from you.

625
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:05,280
I think they have their eye on where they want to go now with that because I would think,

626
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:12,000
and yeah, I know there's a lot of talk about the, you know, the rock being selfish in this

627
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,040
moment and things of that nature.

628
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:19,400
It will be hard pressed for me to believe when the rock had a conversation with Triple

629
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:27,560
H in creative and he said, Hey, I'm going to take on Roman at WrestleMania.

630
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:33,560
I'll be hard pressed to believe that he knew Cody was supposed to win the title at WrestleMania

631
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:47,520
and he took that away.

632
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,880
My earring there keeps dropping and I'm actually plugged in.

633
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:51,880
I wasn't plugged in Sunday.

634
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:52,880
We didn't have any problems.

635
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,240
So maybe I need to stop plugging in.

636
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,960
You said, I forgot what you said, because I about to start talking about some capital

637
00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:02,960
T R A S H. What you saying?

638
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:03,960
I forgot what you was about to say.

639
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:04,960
What did you say?

640
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:05,960
It was the last thing we heard you say.

641
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:06,960
What did I say?

642
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:07,960
And I had it in my head.

643
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:08,960
Take it.

644
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:15,960
What I can't believe is that I think there's something like that.

645
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:16,960
That was a cadence.

646
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,880
What you don't want to do is, or I can't believe it.

647
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,960
Oh no, no, I was saying what I, okay.

648
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,800
So I don't know where you want to pick this up for me.

649
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,640
What I was saying was I can't believe Rock would take that moment from Cody if he knew

650
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,640
Cody was supposed to win the title.

651
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:33,960
That then that doesn't make sense.

652
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,360
Hey, Rock is now the head of TKO, whatever.

653
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,200
And he asked Triple H, say, well, so what's the creative for a mania and say, we're finally

654
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,400
going to crown Cody.

655
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:43,720
It's finally his moment.

656
00:34:43,720 --> 00:34:47,800
I'm just hard pressed that Roman, I mean that Dwayne is like, you know what?

657
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,360
I know he's, you know, this is a story I've been telling for two years, but I think it's

658
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:52,360
time for me to enroll him.

659
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:53,360
There was some scuttle booty around that.

660
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:54,360
Hold on a second.

661
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:55,360
I actually wrote it.

662
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,520
Yeah, that's hard for me to believe.

663
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:58,520
All right.

664
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,520
So here I'm going to read, let me read this off.

665
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:02,860
All right.

666
00:35:02,860 --> 00:35:09,440
So the decision, this is per the W P WI insider decision to go with the rock versus Roman Reigns

667
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:14,460
at WrestleMania, which pushed by Dwayne Johnson himself back by TKO executive.

668
00:35:14,460 --> 00:35:18,720
So this is the information is being floated out that fans are picking up on.

669
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:23,640
Originally the plan was for Cody versus Roman to main event, but Dwayne reportedly felt

670
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:28,280
the chance was necessary to save us many in light of losing CM Punk and Brock Lesnar.

671
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:34,280
As of now, the current plans are for Cody to face Seth Rollins and winners of both matches.

672
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:35,280
This isn't the right article.

673
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:42,080
There was another article, I think a follow up from PWI is that the plan is for Cody to

674
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,880
win the heavyweight championship.

675
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,880
And then at SummerSlam have a match with Roman in a unification match.

676
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:55,280
And then Cody will unify both championships.

677
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,320
I don't think that's taking everything from Roman.

678
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,520
And we got to figure out what he meant by that.

679
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:02,520
Yeah.

680
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:03,680
But that's not taking everything from Roman.

681
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,200
That's still doing the same thing.

682
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,440
Cause he said on Friday, I was, this started with trying to take that title.

683
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:09,920
Now I'm taking everything from you.

684
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:15,680
Well, if I mean, rock will have to win and then he'll have to be the head of the tape,

685
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:16,680
head of the table.

686
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:21,760
But you know, how could he win if he's not the champion?

687
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:22,760
Yeah.

688
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:28,200
So that's kind of just my thought about you wouldn't think the rock would change that.

689
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,640
But if we're talking about just strictly business, yes, there's gonna be way more eyeballs on

690
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,320
rock versus Roman than it is Cody versus Roman.

691
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,520
But that's not the story that the majority of the fan base I think wants to see.

692
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,200
Once again, Thursday, we'll see.

693
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,400
But I tell you what, they got to figure it out.

694
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:50,520
Cause there is a segment of the fan base that is like Rhodesian night that want to see rock

695
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:51,520
and Roman.

696
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,960
If you put that, that little carrot out there on Friday and then you pull that away, you're

697
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,700
not going to have a blowback.

698
00:36:57,700 --> 00:37:01,460
Like we saw this past weekend with taking over Twitter, but you're going to have some

699
00:37:01,460 --> 00:37:04,240
really upset people.

700
00:37:04,240 --> 00:37:09,080
So I think that's, I think that would be the vocal minority guy.

701
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,200
Cause you think about it.

702
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,800
You think about, I have like rock being booed.

703
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,560
I think that rock wasn't even booed when he was going at it with John Cena.

704
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,800
I think John Cena wants the people over, but I can't remember the last time I remember

705
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,920
hearing a Rocky sucks.

706
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,920
No, I mean he was, right?

707
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:32,840
When he first came back from Hollywood.

708
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:33,840
And how long ago was that?

709
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,440
That was 20 years ago.

710
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:36,440
Yeah.

711
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:37,440
Like, right?

712
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,760
So you think about it, you know, I get that, you know, there's, there's a contingent that

713
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:42,760
wants to see that match.

714
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,880
I mean, I want to see it, see the match too.

715
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,800
And I think, I think most of the fan base does just not at this moment.

716
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,240
I just think you, things, things have changed.

717
00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:52,240
Yeah.

718
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:55,880
You know, it's, it's Rockets 50 something years old.

719
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,560
You know, his last major movie was what?

720
00:37:58,560 --> 00:37:59,900
Black Adam.

721
00:37:59,900 --> 00:38:03,240
And that didn't do well enough to get a number, a second movie.

722
00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:06,000
They actually fired him from the franchise.

723
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:12,320
Like, it's just, I just don't know if the star of the Rockets would, it was 10 years

724
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,320
ago.

725
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,960
And I don't know if it's as bright as it needs to be.

726
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:16,960
No, no, no.

727
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,960
There's the stardom of Black is even more.

728
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,760
If, if it was more, we wouldn't get this negative of a fan.

729
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,600
No, listen, this is what I was about to say.

730
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,360
Your people were saying is the vocal minority is for rock enrollment.

731
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,800
I actually think it's probably half and half.

732
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:34,480
I just think that the Cody fans, the fanatic of the fanatics are the ones that's making

733
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:35,480
and pushing this harder.

734
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:40,680
If I think you get a hundred people in a room who've been watching wrestling for 10 years,

735
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,880
you say, Hey, which one do you want to see more?

736
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,340
I guarantee you it's going to be a lot closer than what you think.

737
00:38:46,340 --> 00:38:50,600
Because just from what I've seen, I've seen more, I'm okay with rock and Roman.

738
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,360
Yeah, that kind of sucks for Cody, but, but I want to see rock and Roman.

739
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:59,220
I don't know a lot of those, a lot of those fans are very casual fans who don't watch

740
00:38:59,220 --> 00:39:01,760
wrestling as much as nearly as much as we do.

741
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,400
Or people probably have watched Cody.

742
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,520
Those those fans are the people who, yeah, they might tune in to see rock and Roman,

743
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,880
but then they won't tune in for another six months.

744
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:14,640
I know a guy that came in my store the other day, seeing punk fan.

745
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,080
I said, Hey man, you enjoying punk back?

746
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,080
Like, yeah.

747
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:23,280
You know, I drove actually go see him on his first day and then I haven't watched the show

748
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,280
since.

749
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:25,280
I mean, three hours is a long time to watch wrestling.

750
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,880
I'm just, who has time for that?

751
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,600
And this guy, you know, and this guy drove all the way to see the man, right.

752
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,280
And it says that he can't commit to watching a three hour raw.

753
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,080
Like it's just too much.

754
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,360
Those are very casual fans.

755
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:41,800
I'm not saying this casual fans.

756
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:49,080
I'm telling you, I'm saying if you get people who watch WWE television or programming every

757
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:53,280
week, maybe just raw, maybe just smack down, I'm telling you that it's going to be a lot

758
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,400
closer than what you think.

759
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,120
I just think these fanatics are just crazy and taking it to the whole next level.

760
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,120
And I agree with that.

761
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,960
Just now, you know, I always like to bring my facts to the table, right?

762
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:02,960
Stuff like that.

763
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:09,200
The video they put up on SmackDown, the actual full segment with all this happened, it was

764
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:13,760
up to, I forgot how many, 5 million, 5 and a half million views or something like that.

765
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:18,600
And somebody on Twitter had posted, because the whole big thing that people were going

766
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,240
with was most disliked video in the history of WWE.

767
00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:26,600
And I think at one point they got to the most disliked video in the history of YouTube.

768
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:27,600
Shit.

769
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:28,600
Yeah.

770
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:35,320
And she said 12% of the people that view this video disliked it.

771
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,600
I think that puts it in perspective.

772
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:43,560
I don't think millions of people watch that video to dislike it.

773
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,880
And even if they did watch that video, just dislike it, only 12% of the people who watched

774
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,840
that video disliked it.

775
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:55,960
So to Rhodesia's point of, hey, the majority will be okay with it, with the eyeballs that

776
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,600
I'm going to assume people would watch because the rock is involved.

777
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,560
It's going to be on Peacock, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

778
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:07,160
I would think that the majority that watch would be okay and more than fine with rock

779
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,160
enrollment.

780
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:13,920
But your everyday fans who watch WWE live, sleep, eat, breathe WWE, I think those are

781
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:18,400
the ones that would have an issue and you don't want to piss those off though, because

782
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,120
they're the ones that are with you every single day, every single week, every single month

783
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,360
watching the show, buying your merch, going to the pay per views, et cetera, et cetera.

784
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:30,520
So it is going to be fantastically interesting come Thursday.

785
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:31,520
That's all I got to say.

786
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:32,520
And I am-

787
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,520
I feel like we should do an emergency pod Thursday night.

788
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:35,880
I tell you what, I thought about it.

789
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:40,120
I absolutely thought about it, but I'm like, we can wait till Sunday unless something massive

790
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:44,640
comes down the pipeline, we'll text each other like, all right, y'all, we got to hop on.

791
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:49,320
I'm probably more excited to see this press conference than I am Elimination Chamber right

792
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:50,320
now.

793
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaking of Elimination Chamber, I'm just a little myself, to my own horn.

794
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,360
Rhea and Naya told you that was happening weeks and weeks ago.

795
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:03,600
Check out the TFW podcast, y'all, if y'all not listening, I drop gems, we drop gems on

796
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,600
here constantly.

797
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:06,600
So that's happening.

798
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:07,600
I dropped charcoal.

799
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:12,680
But under pressure, what does it turn into?

800
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:13,680
Diamonds.

801
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:19,760
Did y'all want to touch on Sami Zayn's promo?

802
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:24,240
I didn't get a chance to see it.

803
00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:25,240
Go ahead and talk about it.

804
00:42:25,240 --> 00:42:27,840
Actually, I don't remember anything standing out for him, to be honest with you.

805
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,120
I don't have much from the promo.

806
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:31,120
Outside of it was a great promo.

807
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:36,800
It was a sit down promo and he was in his serious bag where it's just like, hey, why

808
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:42,240
can I not- I should be looked at as a champion contender, champion, et cetera, et cetera.

809
00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:59,040
I was watching Sami and I'm like, I don't know of anyone else in WWE at his level that

810
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:07,200
can be serious and it is 100% believable and you're behind him and he can be the prankster,

811
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,560
the joker and it is 100% believable.

812
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:15,480
And he steals the role and the scene and everything that he's in.

813
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:16,480
He's a special, special talent.

814
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:21,600
A lot of times you can only do one or there's one that you can do much better than the other

815
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:27,640
and him, it seems like whatever role you give him, he's going to be the best at it.

816
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,120
So I just wanted to give him his flowers on that because I thought it was tremendous.

817
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,240
No idea where they're going with it.

818
00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:34,600
I don't even want to know where they're going with it.

819
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,960
It's one of those, I'm just like, I just want to wait and see.

820
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:41,580
So hopefully I don't get spoiled because I don't know where he fits in the WrestleMania

821
00:43:41,580 --> 00:43:43,200
title picture.

822
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,480
And I want to just wait to see it play out.

823
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,040
I got that vibe from him a couple of years ago.

824
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,720
He did a sit down interview with Ari.

825
00:43:52,720 --> 00:43:53,720
I forgot his name.

826
00:43:53,720 --> 00:43:55,280
I'm thinking of Ari Emanuel, but you know what I'm talking about.

827
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,020
He covers MMA too.

828
00:43:58,020 --> 00:44:02,560
And I just remember listening to him talk and I'm like, this guy has a bit of a genius

829
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:07,920
thing, because they're a little bit out there and but I felt that about Sammy a long time

830
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,360
ago and that's when it came out or when I found out that they were actually trying to

831
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,720
do some recording of some type of behind the scenes with him.

832
00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:15,720
But then that fell through.

833
00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:18,560
He did like a, what a year of recording, I think of backstage stuff.

834
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,040
They never saw the light of day, but just hearing him talk through that and then him

835
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:27,400
even addressing how at some point backstage with a higher upstate, he kind of has some

836
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:32,520
tension because of how, how passionate I just knew that we're passionate that he is.

837
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:33,960
With his character.

838
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:41,640
So I got that vibe from him a couple years ago.

839
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,360
Just real quick to touch on Jay.

840
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:46,960
Now coming out to Gunta.

841
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:47,960
I wouldn't have first happened.

842
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,840
I was like, yo, what's up with that?

843
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,200
And then you kind of was like, well, why not?

844
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:53,280
Why not Jay?

845
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:54,880
So I just didn't see that coming.

846
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,960
I mean, I guess now the next morning it makes sense because where else would you put Jay

847
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,380
because Jay has worked his ass off for so long.

848
00:45:01,380 --> 00:45:03,840
He does deserve some type of spot somewhere.

849
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:04,840
And I could see that.

850
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,920
He said he wants an IC title reign.

851
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,400
He wants to win the IC belt more than he does the world championship.

852
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,000
He said that months ago.

853
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,000
Wow.

854
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,000
In an interview.

855
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,000
Wow.

856
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,000
Yeah.

857
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,000
Not saying he's going to get it.

858
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,280
I think if there's anybody to take it off of Gunther, why not?

859
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,080
Jay and like Jay, I said it last night watching it.

860
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,240
Like he is just so damn likable, man.

861
00:45:27,240 --> 00:45:29,440
Like he is so real when you see him.

862
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,400
Like you know that's who Jay is.

863
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,880
I've been fortunate to meet him a few times and talk to him.

864
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,320
But what you see is what you get with Jay.

865
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,560
That is who Jay is.

866
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:47,040
It's just so cool to see him just continue to get so excited for somebody who's done

867
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:52,200
this for like 20 plus years and to still go out there and get that type of reaction and

868
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,800
give that energy back to the crowd is fantastic.

869
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,600
But Gunther is another one that he gets better and better every single time he touches that

870
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,000
microphone.

871
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:06,000
That line about you're going to wish you went back to when...

872
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,000
We couldn't recognize you two.

873
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:13,040
Yeah, you couldn't tell the difference between you and your brother, which is so funny because

874
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,960
back in the day we couldn't tell the difference between them.

875
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,800
They look nothing alike.

876
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,000
Now, you know exactly what Jimmy looks like.

877
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,800
You know exactly what Jay looks like.

878
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,800
But back in the day it was just like, oh, they're the Usos.

879
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:24,800
I don't know who they are.

880
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:25,800
They have face paint.

881
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:26,800
So you got to give them a little bit of a pass.

882
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:27,800
They have face paint.

883
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:34,040
And you know the funny thing is, for weeks I've been wanting to come on and say that

884
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:38,560
I think that Jay should be the person to dethrone Gunther.

885
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,040
But it was always late in the show and I was always running out of steam.

886
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,560
So I was like, well, I'll talk about it next week.

887
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,560
But I've actually been thinking about this since December.

888
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:48,680
I kept wanting to bring that up.

889
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:49,680
I'm like, you know what?

890
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,840
I know the talk was Jay versus Jimmy.

891
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:59,320
But I was like, man, I just kind of feel like they haven't done enough to give that a proper

892
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,640
build for Mania.

893
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,200
And I would love to see Jay and Gunther.

894
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:05,200
I didn't know where Gunther fit.

895
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,960
And I think it would be a great moment.

896
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:16,200
Because if anybody can dethrone Gunther, it can be like a Jay.

897
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,680
Jay would be perfect fit for that spot.

898
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:23,560
And then maybe down the line we can get a Jimmy versus Jay IC match.

899
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:24,560
That's kind of cool.

900
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,560
Well, I was going to say, so then because you got to do that, then elimination chamber.

901
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:29,560
Right.

902
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,080
Gunther in Jay.

903
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:38,000
I don't even know how you I don't even know at this point.

904
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,520
I don't even know how you get to Jimmy and Jay at Mania.

905
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,240
I don't think they're on different brands.

906
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:43,240
Yeah.

907
00:47:43,240 --> 00:47:47,320
Like I don't know if that ship is sailed right now or if they're going to figure out some

908
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:52,680
way with the GMs to like, you know, make a swap or I don't know what.

909
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,520
And Jimmy ain't serious enough, man.

910
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,240
He's kind of like the jobber for the click.

911
00:47:56,240 --> 00:47:57,240
But that's what I'm saying.

912
00:47:57,240 --> 00:48:01,040
It would make more sense for Jay versus a solo.

913
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:05,840
They are on two totally different trajectories right now.

914
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,320
They are like they're just they're not even the same.

915
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,280
And then then you that's what I was talking about on the Royal Rumble whole show.

916
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:16,320
Then you have them wrestle and you know, fight in that match.

917
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,840
OK, well, that took a little steam out of if they do a mania thing.

918
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:24,040
This is funny because this whole bloodline thing and we knew it.

919
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,360
We came over here and talked about it in August after summer slam.

920
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:31,200
Like, oh, I don't know if it's jumped a shark or it just it ain't what it needs to be.

921
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,680
No, get the train back on the tracks.

922
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,520
But overall, you look at just where we are right now with the bloodline story and then

923
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,280
a rock coming in right now.

924
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:48,240
It does just seem to shovel because the why is the rock coming in right now with the bloodline?

925
00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:50,800
Like he's not saving his family.

926
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,080
And that's what I thought it was going to be.

927
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:57,800
I thought like Rock is going to come back is like the saving grace for the Samoan family,

928
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:58,800
right?

929
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,440
Like Roman is completely crapped on his entire family.

930
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,880
He is beyond having the big head.

931
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:05,880
Nobody can talk to him.

932
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,600
And now we bring the rock in to bring him down and give him some humble pie.

933
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,760
And that's not even where we are right now.

934
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,680
So that bloodline story that that's that is sale.

935
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,320
I want to say is this.

936
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:18,320
You can fill it away.

937
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,760
You can you can wheel it back in.

938
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:26,120
But it's it's it's pretty out there right now.

939
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:27,120
It is.

940
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,120
Yeah.

941
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:33,560
I do want to talk about San and deliver, but I do have one more thing on Raw and it's the

942
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,480
Cree brothers.

943
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:40,160
And when you think about like somebody or somebody who needs to take advantage of an

944
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:46,220
opportunity they're given, the Cree brothers just impresses me every time.

945
00:49:46,220 --> 00:49:48,720
Like I think about who they were in the ring with on Raw.

946
00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:54,840
And they are there with some veterans and they're completely like showing an outstanding

947
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:55,840
performance.

948
00:49:55,840 --> 00:50:01,240
I don't say good showing an outstanding showing against these other great tag teams.

949
00:50:01,240 --> 00:50:04,680
I mean, it's like I'm just I'm really impressed.

950
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:08,760
And again, they're to me that definition of taking advantage of an opportunity that you're

951
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:09,760
given.

952
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:15,600
Yeah, I said that I feel like they got thrown in the deep end when they got caught up, really

953
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,920
didn't get caught up with fanfare.

954
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:25,080
It wasn't much to, you know, when they came on the main roster, when like they were brought

955
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:31,840
on with like a specific storyline in play or like, oh, man, they've been in the NSEA

956
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:32,840
so long.

957
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,000
It's time to give them their shot.

958
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,440
It was just like, all right, you think you guys are ready?

959
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,440
You guys may be not be all the way ready, but here you go.

960
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,080
We should throw you out there and make the most out of every opportunity.

961
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,680
As you say, every reason, every single time they go out there, you're just like, all right,

962
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:47,680
they got it.

963
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:52,760
And we know they have it, you know, but like every single week, no matter if it's a singles

964
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:57,280
tag match or is Marty man tag match.

965
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:58,280
They deliver.

966
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:02,680
I don't know about those guys, but they deliver those guys who have been killing NXT for quite

967
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:03,680
some time.

968
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:10,080
And this is really you think about the 2.0 guys, kids, they're all doing pretty well

969
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:11,080
for themselves.

970
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:12,080
Right.

971
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:19,160
You got the Kree brothers, you got Tiff, you got Nuff Mello, Braun.

972
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:20,160
That's what I mean.

973
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,160
It's just awesome to see.

974
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:23,160
I may have to walk back.

975
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:24,160
I might take a look at 2.0.

976
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,080
I ain't going to do it now.

977
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,360
I do have a question about that in a minute though.

978
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,800
I may have to walk back my 2.0, but 2.0 sucked, man.

979
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,040
The show wasn't good.

980
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,320
But if you look at like who was on 2.0 and where they are now.

981
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:43,560
But see, when they did with 2.0, those guys wouldn't have been on TV for at least another

982
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,080
four months before they were on TV.

983
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,760
They just threw them out there when they was green as hell.

984
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:49,760
That's true too.

985
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,120
Green as hell, they just put them out there.

986
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:57,200
But we watched them get better and better every day and every week, which is no fun

987
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:58,320
for us as fans.

988
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,600
We got to see them mature and right in front of our eyes.

989
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:06,440
I do want to ask about fan deliver, but you two just hitting it on the head on the question

990
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,320
I have for you about NXT.

991
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,640
So you're going to have something good on stand to live.

992
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:11,640
You brought it up twice now.

993
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,120
Yeah, I got some on stand to live.

994
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,120
But I got some on stand to live.

995
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,120
But it better be part of the show.

996
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,240
So see, you're trying to give me a little bit of extra responsibility and I'm trying

997
00:52:20,240 --> 00:52:22,400
to do it and you trying to bury me.

998
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:26,200
What was not going to happen is you're not going to bury me because I know my shit right

999
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:27,200
now.

1000
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,200
Okay.

1001
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:29,200
All right.

1002
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:30,200
Anyways, I'm not talking about standing to live right now.

1003
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:31,200
I'm talking about my question.

1004
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,440
NXT is clicking on all cylinders.

1005
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,000
We know that.

1006
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:40,880
And kind of the demise of the black and gold was that all the, you finally was behind all

1007
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:45,000
this talent, call them up to the main card.

1008
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,320
And now you left everybody there that was green, the birth of the 2.0.

1009
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:52,880
Of course there was other factors on 2.0, but you got 2.0.

1010
00:52:52,880 --> 00:53:02,440
How or what does Sean and his team need to do to ensure we don't get another NXT 3.0

1011
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:09,960
and it's another year, year and a half of just green going nowhere talent on TV?

1012
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,440
Or do you think we passed this?

1013
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,240
They passed it.

1014
00:53:15,240 --> 00:53:19,280
I think if you watch, really watch the shows, I mean, you guys watch shows, but you look

1015
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:24,800
at it, they do a good job of like the breakout talent.

1016
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:29,400
They slowly integrate them with the more seasoned NXT guys.

1017
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:34,040
So you got the metaphor, right?

1018
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:38,240
You got Lash and I forget homegirls name.

1019
00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:42,120
She's a way on injury right now, but she's getting better.

1020
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,680
You look at Lola Vice, she's next up.

1021
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:46,680
You got Laura.

1022
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:47,680
She cashed in a loss.

1023
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:48,680
Yep.

1024
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:49,680
Cashed in a loss.

1025
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:54,560
You got the women's champion was a biker, bikery by Laura.

1026
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:55,560
Lyra.

1027
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:56,560
Lyra.

1028
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:57,560
Yep.

1029
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:05,920
So they do a really great job of integrating like their newer talents into the show.

1030
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:13,080
And you start seeing like Kalani probably get a bigger role on the show as well.

1031
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:14,080
You still got Roxy.

1032
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,680
You never know when she's going to be pulled up there, but I feel like you do a really

1033
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:22,440
good job of just integrating the newer talent into the existing ones.

1034
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,400
And then you don't have to worry about the Vince factor.

1035
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:31,920
So remember the Vince of it all was when NXT lost to AEWs when they blew up NXT black

1036
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,400
and gold and they made it 2.0.

1037
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,880
So that was the big factor of that.

1038
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,640
The other factor too is they're set up better.

1039
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,200
What I mean by that is the left hand song to the right hand.

1040
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,440
So we don't see any more of this.

1041
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:45,840
Oh, that person looks good.

1042
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:46,840
That's a shiny new toy.

1043
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,800
Let's bring them up to the main roster, but then let's completely overhaul them and change

1044
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:51,800
everything about them.

1045
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,520
They got them over and now it didn't work.

1046
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:57,840
And I got to continue to poach talent from NXT because the people I'm bringing up isn't

1047
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,800
really connecting on the main roster because I'm changing everything about them that connected

1048
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,960
them to the audience down in NXT.

1049
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,760
And then the other part of it too is they have a show called NXT level up where like

1050
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:13,840
the next people up are getting time in front of the camera in front of a live audience

1051
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:14,840
to get better.

1052
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:15,840
Yeah.

1053
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:16,840
So they have things.

1054
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,520
Was that, was that no way like a real no way?

1055
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:23,800
Yeah, I was actually about to start searching on Safari right now.

1056
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,800
NXT level up.

1057
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:26,800
Yeah.

1058
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:31,200
Level up is, is actually what dark should have been.

1059
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:32,200
Correct.

1060
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,680
Because they actually have matches like right.

1061
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:39,480
Cause I'm dark, you know, it, you know, for instance, Anna J will have like a two minute

1062
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:40,480
squash match for somebody.

1063
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,520
Like she ain't going to learn enough and get better in a two minute squash match.

1064
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:48,680
She gets like some local talent, you know, level up, you know, you'll see the two actually

1065
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:49,680
go through a whole match.

1066
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,600
I might not be good, but they go through a whole match.

1067
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,440
And I mean, you know, it's not too bad.

1068
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:55,800
And there's also stories behind it too.

1069
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,360
Like, like it's a few sometimes.

1070
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:03,400
So to ease point, you're not going out there just working on your like hot tag sequence

1071
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,800
and we getting in, getting out and your interest takes longer than the actual match it is.

1072
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,380
You're actually working during that time period.

1073
00:56:09,380 --> 00:56:14,160
So I think they have a lot of things now in place that we should not ever see.

1074
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,800
You have to see a complete reset button on NXT.

1075
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:18,800
Well, good.

1076
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:23,360
And I just pulled it up and it shows like they upload their episodes on Peacock on Fridays

1077
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:24,360
at 10 PM Eastern.

1078
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:25,360
Right after Smackdown.

1079
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:26,360
Nice.

1080
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:27,360
That's cool.

1081
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:32,360
Well, then now we're talking about saying delivery.

1082
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,240
What about, what about saying deliver?

1083
00:56:35,240 --> 00:56:36,680
Thank you.

1084
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,040
And I can segue on my own.

1085
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:39,040
Okay.

1086
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:40,040
Okay.

1087
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:41,040
My bad.

1088
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:42,040
Sorry.

1089
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:43,040
Dusty road, classic champions.

1090
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:44,040
We got Brian and Corbin.

1091
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:50,080
How much longer you think we're going to see this, I guess, team before they implode?

1092
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,520
Because it kind of seemed like they kind of like each other right now.

1093
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,520
Man, let Sean tell it.

1094
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:58,360
He ain't letting Brian go anytime soon, even though Brian is on Raw and Smackdown.

1095
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,760
He legit said like, well, I'm not letting him go.

1096
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,120
If he wants to do double duty, great.

1097
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,480
But like Triple H is going to have to like pry him away from me.

1098
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:10,160
I was like, damn, I wish I bet Triple H would she get told that to Vince years ago when

1099
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:11,680
it came to him poaching talent.

1100
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:18,040
But yeah, I mean, that's, I think I've said it before, Brian is ready and now he's even

1101
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:24,000
more ready because he just checked off being able to pull off a comedy gimmick.

1102
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,000
What else is it for him to do in NXT?

1103
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:30,480
And I guess you got to have a spot for him on the main roster, right?

1104
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:34,480
Like maybe if they want to just give him that Brock Lesnar spot, I don't think Brock was

1105
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,520
going to be Gunther at Mania.

1106
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:41,660
I still want Chad Gable to get his lick back against Gunther, but you talk about an incredible

1107
00:57:41,660 --> 00:57:43,480
start.

1108
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:49,400
If Brian comes in and challenges Gunther at Mania and beats Gunther, I mean, at that point

1109
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:54,720
he's made and now it's, you know, all bets are off, but I mean, he's ready at any time.

1110
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:55,720
So I don't know how long.

1111
00:57:55,720 --> 00:58:03,000
I guess it doesn't matter either that they're in a feud because we saw with Tiffany Stratton,

1112
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:04,000
she was in a feud.

1113
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:10,840
They just did a full three weeks build to her and about to start showing these farm

1114
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:12,400
vignettes and all that kind of stuff.

1115
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,480
And then they just dropped that and brought it up to the main roster.

1116
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,080
So I guess that doesn't matter anymore.

1117
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,120
I kind of feel like that was filler though.

1118
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:24,160
And it was designed to kind of be dropped because like they have been feuding for some

1119
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:34,440
time lead up until that because Fallon had, I think had beat her twice, I believe.

1120
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,240
I think I remember seeing one time.

1121
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,400
But I knew she beat her.

1122
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:43,480
Well they taped the vignettes for it and they didn't use them because they dropped it.

1123
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:44,480
Yeah.

1124
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:45,480
Yep.

1125
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:51,400
Well, then I guess then the last thing about Sending and Delivery is the ending, the beginning,

1126
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,560
the end, the beginning and the end.

1127
00:58:54,560 --> 00:59:01,000
And Carmelo finally turning officially on his best friend, on his brother, Trick.

1128
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:02,920
It's time.

1129
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:06,320
So before y'all started telling me y'all feelings and thoughts on it, I just wanted to get this

1130
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:07,720
out.

1131
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:13,000
I thought Carmelo was coming up and I thought meaning to the main roster and I thought he

1132
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,600
was leaving NXT behind.

1133
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:21,080
And you still do that even though their relationship just had a turn in it.

1134
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:25,080
Like to me, when I saw that, I'm happy because I do think that Carmelo is going to be a really

1135
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,960
good heel, but I thought he was already done with NXT.

1136
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,440
So I kind of felt like, like dang.

1137
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,920
This is the story and this should be the main event.

1138
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:37,200
I know they like to, of course, finish with the title, but this needs to be the main event

1139
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,760
of what is their WrestleMania show called?

1140
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:44,360
I keep trying to call it Sending and Delivery, but it's not called that, but I'll find out.

1141
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:45,360
No, it is Sending and Delivery.

1142
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,560
Vengeance Day was just this past Sunday.

1143
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,560
I know people listening.

1144
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,560
I know people listening.

1145
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:54,560
What are y'all talking about?

1146
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:55,560
So that's good.

1147
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:56,560
I'll be on top.

1148
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,560
You had one job, Rhodesia, and you got me out here talking at Sending and Delivery.

1149
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:00,560
You had one job.

1150
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:01,560
Guess what?

1151
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:02,560
Guess what?

1152
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,280
I get to talk about Sending and Delivery even more.

1153
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:09,720
I got like another six, seven weeks to talk about Sending and Delivery.

1154
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,400
I know people are talking about like, what are these guys talking about?

1155
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:13,400
Sending and Delivery?

1156
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:14,400
Sorry, y'all.

1157
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:15,400
But you ain't stop us either.

1158
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:16,400
You know what's Vengeance Day.

1159
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:17,400
Damn it to hell.

1160
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:24,800
Hey, you know what happens when we get towards the end of these pods, man?

1161
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:25,800
We didn't do nothing sexual.

1162
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:26,800
We ain't say none, sex, or.

1163
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:27,800
Anyway, that's nuts.

1164
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:33,800
But you know, I think, I mean, this is the story, right?

1165
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,060
This is the story that they've been building up to.

1166
01:00:37,060 --> 01:00:41,620
We talked about it on our, I think our last pod of last year, just kind of about trick

1167
01:00:41,620 --> 01:00:43,260
and mellow and where I thought mellow was.

1168
01:00:43,260 --> 01:00:45,480
You guys agreed.

1169
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:52,000
I was able to see the first 25 minutes, 30 minutes of NXT so far.

1170
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:55,200
And he comes out, he's like, he's about to cut the promo, he's getting great hill heat.

1171
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,040
And he's like, not yet.

1172
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:58,820
He just walks back out.

1173
01:00:58,820 --> 01:01:00,600
He's comfortable being a hill.

1174
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:08,160
Like he's, that is where he's him, is in that mode of the braggadocious cocky heel.

1175
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:13,440
So I'm excited for to see him now in that role, but that's also going to translate when

1176
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:14,440
he does go to the main roster.

1177
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:18,760
I don't think he's going to flip back to be in the face whenever he does go to Raw or

1178
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:19,760
SmackDown.

1179
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:20,760
I think he's a hill.

1180
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,040
And I think that's where he probably should be.

1181
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:24,040
Yeah.

1182
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:28,520
I thought it was a great segment.

1183
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:30,920
Man, like trick is over, right?

1184
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:31,920
Over like Rover.

1185
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:32,920
And we knew it was.

1186
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,440
I mean, the man has a lot of charisma.

1187
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:36,440
He's getting better.

1188
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:42,160
Man, he's so much better in the ring now than he was, shoot, even two months ago.

1189
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,200
Man, kudos to that man.

1190
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:48,840
As far as mellow, I think definitely he's a better heel.

1191
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:54,720
I think he kind of was unofficially on the SmackDown roster.

1192
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:55,720
Right?

1193
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,040
He had been featured quite a few times.

1194
01:01:58,040 --> 01:01:59,920
And as a baby too.

1195
01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:06,120
However, leading to Mania, I'm sure that's the nice thing about with Shawn and Trick

1196
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:07,680
Ways and their work relationship.

1197
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:12,280
He's like, hey, look, we've been building towards this thing for a while now.

1198
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:13,760
We're going to finish this up.

1199
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:15,160
Like, right?

1200
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,320
This was what we had in play.

1201
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:23,040
Now, I love to see Mello transition to the main roster once he loses a trick.

1202
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:26,440
I guess what's going to happen once he loses a trick.

1203
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,880
I still kind of think he needs a couple bells and whistles.

1204
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:33,560
I still don't think that Carmelo, even as a heel.

1205
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:34,560
Even as a heel, huh?

1206
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:38,680
Yeah, I think he needs a cup, you know, like a heavy, right?

1207
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:43,160
I don't think he necessarily needs a mouthpiece, but I think he's best when he can bounce off

1208
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:44,560
someone else.

1209
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:49,560
Even like his arrogant charisma, I think is better when he can play off somebody else.

1210
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:55,800
And I don't know if it's like, I don't want to say it should be like a group, but he should,

1211
01:02:55,800 --> 01:03:00,880
because Bobby is a face right now, I guess.

1212
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:07,960
But what if MVP, who I think is being underutilized, not being on TV, because he's a great talker,

1213
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:08,960
right?

1214
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:09,960
Almost.

1215
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:15,560
I don't think he's a guy, I don't know, trying to use him as a special attraction, but I

1216
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,680
don't think he's that special.

1217
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,320
I hate to say that.

1218
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,600
You know, he pops up and he loses somebody.

1219
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,320
He'd be an awesome bodyguard.

1220
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:27,320
What if MVP-

1221
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,320
Well, he needs his diesel, right?

1222
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,320
He needs Shawn Michaels, how Shawn Michaels had diesel, he needs his diesel.

1223
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,080
And I think Shawn knows that too, probably.

1224
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:39,760
What if almost was that diesel, MVP was that mouthpiece, but he doesn't need a mouthpiece,

1225
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,120
it's kind of like how Heyman does, right?

1226
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:47,400
Kind of introduces him and kind of sets him up and then, you know, Mello knocks him out.

1227
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:48,640
I'm not mad at it at all.

1228
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:49,840
I'll be there for that.

1229
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:54,760
Because I still think, I mean, of course, I agree that he was missing something as a

1230
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:55,760
face.

1231
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:56,960
So, I'm all for if you give him-

1232
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:03,080
Maybe not almost though, because I feel like almost would make Mello look too small, right?

1233
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:04,080
Because like-

1234
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:09,360
Yeah, I mean, yeah, he's not the tallest, but he needs a heavy.

1235
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,720
I mean, he would be good if he had a heavy.

1236
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,280
I agree with that for sure.

1237
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:19,280
It's funny too, when I was watching that main event, like Trick, you know, just overall,

1238
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,720
Avengers Day was a really, really good show.

1239
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,920
I had said like, you can just tell a lot of those spots, they're just sitting around a

1240
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:25,920
PC in the ring.

1241
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:27,560
And they're just like, man, what can we do?

1242
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:28,560
That's like crazy as hell.

1243
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:29,880
And they're just working on it.

1244
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,360
And then they bring it to life, which is fun to watch.

1245
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:37,320
But it was a couple of sloppy spots during the pay-per-view.

1246
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:42,520
But when I was watching the main event, and Illya is somebody that before he goes in the

1247
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:46,800
ring, I'm like, I can take him or leave him.

1248
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:53,840
But when he, when the bell starts, I was like, no, this guy is, yeah, he's something special.

1249
01:04:53,840 --> 01:05:00,160
I don't think there is no world, and yeah, it's only February, it could be February,

1250
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:01,160
you know, whatever.

1251
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:06,040
It shouldn't be any world that Trick Williams is arguably in the match of the year so far.

1252
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,600
I don't care if it was January 3rd, right?

1253
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:13,360
Like Trick is too early in the game to say like, hey, so far you were in the match of

1254
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:14,360
a year candidate.

1255
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,680
And that's what that match was.

1256
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:17,680
That's what that match was.

1257
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:18,680
So kudos to Illya.

1258
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,280
Tip my hat if I had a hat on you, sir.

1259
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:22,280
He's missing something.

1260
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:23,280
A couple of things.

1261
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,600
Not in the ring, but the presentation beforehand.

1262
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:26,600
Yeah, man.

1263
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:28,600
Yeah, well, I'm like, this is y'all champion.

1264
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,760
And then five seconds later, I'm like, this is our champion.

1265
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:32,760
This is our champion.

1266
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:33,760
This is our champion right here.

1267
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:34,760
This is y'all champion for staying delivered.

1268
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:40,520
He turned, like you know how Beyonce said that she's like this super shy passive, I don't

1269
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:42,440
know passive, but super shy lady.

1270
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:46,640
But the moment she turns into Sasha Fierce, that's how Illya is.

1271
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:50,000
Like my fandom for him, I can leave him all day.

1272
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:51,000
He's just like, ugh.

1273
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:56,240
And the moment that bell rings, I'm like, dang, I see why.

1274
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,480
You can't always be in the ring though.

1275
01:05:58,480 --> 01:05:59,480
That's true.

1276
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:03,680
But right now my feelings on it, man, when that bell rings, I'm like, dang, this boy

1277
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:04,680
good.

1278
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:06,480
This boy good.

1279
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,480
He killed it.

1280
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,520
So there was nothing else on NXT Vengeance Day, Rhodesia.

1281
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:15,400
No, but we can get ready to start talking about fan and deliver later.

1282
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,200
I got one thing that we didn't talk about on Sunday that I wanted to bring up.

1283
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:19,800
It's about Mick Foley.

1284
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:24,240
Mick Foley, I had an interview and he said that for his 60th birthday, he wanted to do

1285
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,120
like one final death match.

1286
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:30,840
He said in order to get to the shape that he wanted to get into, he would need to lose

1287
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:31,840
a hundred pounds.

1288
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:36,560
And he feels like the goal of him being able to wrestle on his 60th birthday would get

1289
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:43,160
him to losing a hundred pounds, which anything that can give somebody motivated to lose weight

1290
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:46,000
and get healthier, I am all for.

1291
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:49,560
I think this is a no brainer for him to do it.

1292
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:54,280
And I think the no brainer is for him to do it in AEW because of course WWE would not

1293
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,200
allow what kind of death match he would want.

1294
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:00,920
And I think it is a no brainer for it to be against Moxley.

1295
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:07,760
Like they already have a built in story because they were supposed to feud in WWE.

1296
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:12,000
It got pushed to the side when Moxley was down to FCW and NXT.

1297
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:13,320
I think this is perfect.

1298
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:16,280
But there was a lot of people online that was just like, no, we don't want to see Mick

1299
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,480
Foley in a death match.

1300
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:19,680
He shouldn't be in another death match.

1301
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:23,680
And my just thought is that man has killed himself for our entertainment.

1302
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:26,960
How can I tell him not to do one more match that he wants to do?

1303
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:31,120
I don't care what kind of match it is, but what's your guys thoughts about Mick Foley

1304
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:35,480
coming back at the age of 60 to do one more death match?

1305
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:42,160
It's the sound that makes me kind of remember how I felt when Hangman drank Swerve's blood.

1306
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:43,160
Or was it the other way around?

1307
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,720
Hangman drank Swerve's blood.

1308
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:47,720
And I was like, oh my God.

1309
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:52,000
I kind of feel that way thinking about Foley doing that because I already know nothing's

1310
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,240
going to practically be off limits to him.

1311
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:57,040
Especially if he drops all this weight and he gets into the shape that he wants to get

1312
01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:58,040
into.

1313
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,440
Like you said, it would only be fitting that it's with Moxley.

1314
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:02,600
And then Moxley is not going to hold back.

1315
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:05,480
He loves death matches too.

1316
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:12,720
I just don't think as somebody that cares about other human beings life that I can promote

1317
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:14,520
and condone that match.

1318
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:16,560
But if it happens, I'm going to watch it.

1319
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:18,640
Because like you said, he given his life.

1320
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:21,240
Man, I remember watching a video on him.

1321
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,040
He did a documentary on himself.

1322
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:26,240
It took him like an hour to get out of the bed in the morning.

1323
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,720
So you telling me that he's put his body through that?

1324
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,440
He absolutely deserved the right to have any match he wants to have.

1325
01:08:31,440 --> 01:08:39,480
But again, to be fair, to see a 60 year old man hurting himself, I'm not condoning it,

1326
01:08:39,480 --> 01:08:43,040
but I'll watch it.

1327
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:48,960
I will pass on seeing 60 year old men bleeding on TV.

1328
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:49,960
Hard pass.

1329
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:50,960
Maybe on PLE.

1330
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:51,960
Hard pass indeed.

1331
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:52,960
Hard car, man.

1332
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:53,960
What about pay-per-view?

1333
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:54,960
Pay-per-view?

1334
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:55,960
I don't know.

1335
01:08:55,960 --> 01:09:00,040
I'm certain they can pay me and I will watch.

1336
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:01,040
Oh, God.

1337
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:08,560
AEW, if you want to invest in Big Daddy's funds, I would take $100 to watch that.

1338
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:13,000
Man, we went a good month without you saying that name on the pod.

1339
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:14,560
And the pod has been fantastic.

1340
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,400
Hitting the best streak we've ever had on the podcast.

1341
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:21,000
We about to go back down to Shitter now because you want to decide to bring that name.

1342
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:22,000
They know me.

1343
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:23,000
Man, that is cold world.

1344
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:24,000
They know me.

1345
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:25,000
They know me.

1346
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:26,000
That's what they call me.

1347
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:27,720
But you know what though?

1348
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:28,720
That's interesting.

1349
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:29,880
Both of you guys were kind of like you passed on.

1350
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:33,720
I wonder if you guys would change your mind once you hear a couple of promos from them.

1351
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:35,280
And if you'd be like, you know what?

1352
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:40,120
I was kind of cool on it at first, but I want to watch it now.

1353
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:41,120
I just wonder.

1354
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:45,760
Just a good faith I can't watch somebody hurt themselves, especially at that age.

1355
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:49,280
Hell, we're celebrating Sting, which Sting is what, 64, right?

1356
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:50,280
Yeah.

1357
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:54,440
And yeah, he hasn't done a death match, but the majority of his matches are no DQ hardcore

1358
01:09:54,440 --> 01:09:55,440
matches.

1359
01:09:55,440 --> 01:09:57,760
He's jumping off of the highest thing he can find in these arenas.

1360
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,240
Let's not act like he's wrestling.

1361
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:02,880
But the muscle memory of the calluses there right now on Sting.

1362
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:07,560
If Sting was gone for how long Mick Foley been gone for 10 years and he comes back,

1363
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:11,520
I probably would feel a different kind of way.

1364
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:13,200
Don't add me about this Mick Foley thing.

1365
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:14,200
I'm sorry.

1366
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:23,280
Hey, we can revisit our childhoods on another day after WrestleMania, but let's celebrate

1367
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:26,400
a great game coming out March 5th.

1368
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:29,640
Rhodesia, you might have to make sure of it.

1369
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:31,520
I have no idea when this game comes out.

1370
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:32,520
I think it's March 5th.

1371
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:33,520
He just threw out a date.

1372
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:34,520
He loved it.

1373
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:35,520
I love it.

1374
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:36,520
He just threw a date out.

1375
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:37,520
He was confident about it too.

1376
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:38,520
He was so confident.

1377
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:41,960
It comes out the same day as vengeance day, y'all.

1378
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:42,960
I refuse to double check.

1379
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:43,960
I refuse to double check.

1380
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:49,000
We got WWE 2K24 coming out and it looks like it's going to be a doozy.

1381
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:50,000
It's funny, Rhodesia.

1382
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:51,120
You might have saw it.

1383
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:55,280
Matt has sent out a tweet and he asked if AEW fight forever.

1384
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:56,640
I think it was on sale.

1385
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:57,640
Was it worth purchasing?

1386
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:03,480
So this week, it was like finally, is it, if you've been waiting, it's the time to get

1387
01:11:03,480 --> 01:11:04,480
it.

1388
01:11:04,480 --> 01:11:06,480
Was it 1999 or is it 2019?

1389
01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:07,480
1999.

1390
01:11:07,480 --> 01:11:08,480
Oh dang.

1391
01:11:08,480 --> 01:11:09,480
Okay.

1392
01:11:09,480 --> 01:11:10,480
Just 1999.

1393
01:11:10,480 --> 01:11:11,480
Yeah, it's 1999.

1394
01:11:11,480 --> 01:11:15,240
It says if you've been holding out, the time to pick up your copy of AEW fight forever

1395
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:16,960
is now starting today.

1396
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:21,480
AEW fight forever is available at participating retailers, blah, blah, blah, at just $29.99.

1397
01:11:21,480 --> 01:11:24,320
I said, hey, serious question, y'all.

1398
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:25,320
Is this worth it?

1399
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:27,160
I didn't get one yes.

1400
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:29,680
E chimed in.

1401
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:30,680
It was a few people.

1402
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:31,680
I was like, Ooh, okay.

1403
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:32,680
I got a few.

1404
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:34,840
Like I bought this game on launch day.

1405
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:37,240
That's the last time I played this game.

1406
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:41,080
Two different people said that to me and I was like, yo, that's horrible.

1407
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:42,080
Yep.

1408
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:46,920
And you know, Matt thought I was being too hard on the game when I reviewed it that he

1409
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:49,080
made me revisit my review the next week.

1410
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:50,640
Like you ain't played the game enough, man.

1411
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:54,120
I need you to actually play the game and you're going to review again.

1412
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:57,760
All you do is create a character.

1413
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:00,880
Yeah, that's why I was like, no, you haven't talked about the game.

1414
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:02,880
You just said like, that was all the game.

1415
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:03,880
That was it.

1416
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:04,880
He was like, that was all to it.

1417
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,520
Actually, I take that back.

1418
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:08,520
You were right.

1419
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:10,520
You did give a great review.

1420
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:11,520
Exactly.

1421
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:12,520
And this is the thing.

1422
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:16,880
So see, I was trying to be nice about the game and I was hoping they would fix some

1423
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:17,880
things.

1424
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:24,840
But what I should have said is that it's a fun but bare bones as game and ain't shit

1425
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:25,840
to do.

1426
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:30,320
But the gameplay ain't good enough to support it.

1427
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:31,320
Like, period.

1428
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:34,000
It's like, the game is bare bones.

1429
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:35,000
That game came out in 2003.

1430
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,400
It had been a great game.

1431
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:40,400
But that's 20 years ago.

1432
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:42,400
March 5th.

1433
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:45,120
March 5th is the release.

1434
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:48,360
We got a great game.

1435
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:52,240
Cody, my main man's on the cover on the standard edition.

1436
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:58,880
And then we got Bianca and Rhea on the Lux, which is awesome in itself.

1437
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:00,200
Great updates to this game.

1438
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,360
Matt, they got a casket match for you.

1439
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:04,920
Bernice, they got an ambulance match for you.

1440
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:05,920
I did see that.

1441
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:06,920
Yeah.

1442
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:09,920
Special guest referee match is back.

1443
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:14,640
And they have a host of quality of life upgrades to the game, which are thinking to me phenomenal.

1444
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:18,760
They added a back and forth strike mini game.

1445
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:26,600
So in matches we see the boo yay dynamic when people are punching back and forth.

1446
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:29,560
We have those mini games.

1447
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:32,240
It's going to be a really, really good game, guys.

1448
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:33,680
They add a lot of things.

1449
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:40,920
Now one big thing that they showed today is that there is something called a 40 years

1450
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:46,480
of WrestleMania edition, which is their big tier version coming out.

1451
01:13:46,480 --> 01:13:51,240
Originally Brock Lesnar was on this cover along with a host of other legends current

1452
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:53,600
and past.

1453
01:13:53,600 --> 01:14:00,200
Today's trailer, Brock was removed off that cover, which I don't know if it surprised

1454
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:06,920
me, but I raised the eyebrow and I'm like, damn, Brock is going down just as hard as

1455
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:09,000
Vince with all of this, right?

1456
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:10,000
And he hasn't even been proved.

1457
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,440
He said Brock, Rhodesia, not Rock.

1458
01:14:12,440 --> 01:14:13,920
Brock, Brock Lesnar.

1459
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:15,960
I'm over here minding my business listening to him.

1460
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,000
No, you're over here giving people's eyebrows on camera.

1461
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:19,480
Brock has never done that.

1462
01:14:19,480 --> 01:14:21,880
I said I raised the eyebrow, right?

1463
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:24,920
So that's what, so she's raised an eyebrow too, right?

1464
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:25,920
I'm with you, see?

1465
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:26,920
I got you, Rhodesia.

1466
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:27,920
Thank you.

1467
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:31,280
But I'm like, damn, Brock is getting-

1468
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:32,280
It's over, man.

1469
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:34,760
... taken out of the history just like Vince.

1470
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:40,280
And here's the thing, we don't know exactly what his role is.

1471
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:44,440
I don't know if there's any kind of contracts or anything about what he agreed to or didn't

1472
01:14:44,440 --> 01:14:50,040
agree to or whatever the case may be, but it seems like the court of public opinion

1473
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:55,120
is so strong that 2K was like, yo, we gotta get this man off this cover.

1474
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:59,040
Like, y'all surprised by this?

1475
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:01,240
I'm not at all.

1476
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:02,240
I'm not at all, man.

1477
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:06,400
I'm not surprised it took this long for them to show a new cover without him.

1478
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:07,980
It's over for him.

1479
01:15:07,980 --> 01:15:15,080
With him being the only person in that suit that matches Brock Lesnar, I think she said

1480
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:21,880
a world famous UFC champion who was under contract negotiators at the time, that was

1481
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:23,360
it.

1482
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:24,360
He's the only person.

1483
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:29,840
So for him being as quiet as he was, and we know, for me, when I first saw that, I was

1484
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:30,840
like, he's done for.

1485
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:33,520
We're not gonna see him again in WWE anytime soon.

1486
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,360
I don't think we'll see him ever again.

1487
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:38,480
So of course we know they removed him from the Rumble.

1488
01:15:38,480 --> 01:15:43,440
They took him out of all the creative plans they had up until Mania.

1489
01:15:43,440 --> 01:15:44,440
It's over.

1490
01:15:44,440 --> 01:15:45,440
It's done.

1491
01:15:45,440 --> 01:15:47,000
Is he still on the website?

1492
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:48,080
As it should be.

1493
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:52,680
If he did anything to that woman, right?

1494
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:57,880
I don't care if it was given to him on a silver platter and said, hey, she's fine with it.

1495
01:15:57,880 --> 01:15:58,880
No.

1496
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:03,240
If you were named in that and you had anything to do with it, no, you gotta go.

1497
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:04,240
Out of there.

1498
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:05,240
Yep.

1499
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:13,160
Hey, right before we sign off, who do you think was gonna be Brock's match at Mania?

1500
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:14,160
You think it's gonna be Gunther?

1501
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:15,160
Gunther?

1502
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:16,160
Probably.

1503
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:17,160
That's what I was thinking.

1504
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:18,160
Yeah.

1505
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:19,440
Which we had talked about that.

1506
01:16:19,440 --> 01:16:22,040
I said that a couple months ago, but yeah, it was confirmed.

1507
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:25,760
He was supposed to work Dom and Elimination Chamber because Dom was gonna eliminate him

1508
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:27,440
in the Rumble, which would have been hilarious.

1509
01:16:27,440 --> 01:16:32,360
And you can just imagine the shit talk that Dom would have had leading up to that, that

1510
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:34,760
he eliminated Brock Lesnar from the Royal Rumble.

1511
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:38,320
That's like a career milestone that we didn't get because of that.

1512
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:42,880
And then they were gonna pivot to Gunther and Brock at Mania.

1513
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:50,720
And see, and all that rock was like, look, we lost Brock, we lost punk.

1514
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:53,280
Let's get the Brahma Bull back.

1515
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:57,400
And then I think what happened was Cody did say like, hey guys, I think this isn't gonna

1516
01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:58,400
really work.

1517
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:03,080
And then to what E you just said, Brock was like, dude, you can finish your story March

1518
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:04,080
5th in that video game.

1519
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:05,080
This is real life here.

1520
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:06,080
You know what I'm saying?

1521
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:07,080
That was what the Brahma Bull said.

1522
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:08,080
That may have been made up.

1523
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:11,080
I'm not sure, but I think that's also what was important.

1524
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:14,080
He's turning heel every day.

1525
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:19,040
Oh, Matter of the Rock.

1526
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:20,040
We're both.

1527
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:21,040
Both.

1528
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:22,040
Both.

1529
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:23,040
B-O-F-F.

1530
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:24,040
What else y'all got?

1531
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:25,040
Y'all got anything else before we get out of here?

1532
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:33,080
This cover of the 40 years of WrestleMania, that's a reason why I was doing the people's

1533
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:35,200
eyebrow was because it's on the cover.

1534
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:39,400
And so I didn't even realize I was doing it until you called me out on it.

1535
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:41,880
So this cover is actually pretty sweet.

1536
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:47,800
Big time, but he's hitting hard on this cover.

1537
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:52,360
Last thing on the final guess, Mercedes, Mercedes watch 2024.

1538
01:17:52,360 --> 01:18:00,720
He tweeted out on Tuesday, some to the effect of it's great when a plan is executed or execution

1539
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:03,000
happens or something like that.

1540
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:05,680
So today, of course, is Wednesday.

1541
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:07,160
You guys are hearing it.

1542
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:12,600
I still think that Tony Khan's announcement is something surrounding Mercedes and that

1543
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:16,440
show being in Boston, but I'm excited.

1544
01:18:16,440 --> 01:18:19,680
I know he's not hype on her going to AEW, but she is needed.

1545
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:26,080
I feel like back on American wrestling television and I think she's going to be tremendous for

1546
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,600
AEW's women division.

1547
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:31,840
If Tony Khan allows her to be tremendous for that division.

1548
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:37,640
I can't wait to listen to another month now, Matt asking us, so is Mercedes a heel or is

1549
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:41,000
she a face?

1550
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:42,280
I think it may be projected on that.

1551
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:45,280
If we got to ask that.

1552
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:48,880
Come on, man.

1553
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:53,640
That's not going to be like that.

1554
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:55,560
It's not going to end it like this.

1555
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:59,680
It's going to be wonderful when she comes number 30 at or next year.

1556
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:00,680
Okay, that's enough.

1557
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:01,680
All right.

1558
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:07,440
And on that note, we are here like that's see or she be a standard deliver that's the

1559
01:19:07,440 --> 01:19:08,440
past Sunday according to you.

1560
01:19:08,440 --> 01:19:09,440
All right, y'all, we out of here.

1561
01:19:09,440 --> 01:19:10,440
That's all right, man.

1562
01:19:10,440 --> 01:19:11,440
We on the social.

1563
01:19:11,440 --> 01:19:14,360
Y'all know where to find this on Twitter.

1564
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:16,400
That's FNW on YouTube.

1565
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:19,200
That's freaking wrestling as I asked you guys on Sunday.

1566
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:20,520
So continue to put the word out.

1567
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:24,600
We appreciate you guys for everything that you guys have done for us.

1568
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:27,400
We could continue to try to give that positive energy.

1569
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:33,240
And also to it was funny because on our 100th episode, either was little matter was one

1570
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:37,360
of the two talked about, you know, we were giving our thank yous and talking about, hey,

1571
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:39,880
we thank everybody who's been supporting been with us.

1572
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:40,880
And they won.

1573
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:42,680
If you just got down with us, we love you the same.

1574
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:45,360
One of you guys were like, and we even think the haters too.

1575
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:47,480
And I made a comment saying we ain't got no haters, man.

1576
01:19:47,480 --> 01:19:49,800
The haters have popped up like weeds.

1577
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:52,040
Because we can talk about Cody.

1578
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:53,040
That's why, you know, oh, nevermind.

1579
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:54,040
I want to go there.

1580
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:55,040
I'm going to end this happy.

1581
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:56,040
It's all good.

1582
01:19:56,040 --> 01:20:01,040
But once again, they say you ain't popping unless you got some haters.

1583
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:02,040
Right.

1584
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:03,040
That means you're growing.

1585
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:04,040
And actually, we are absolutely growing.

1586
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:06,920
If we just look at our numbers kind of across the board.

1587
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:07,920
So we thank you guys for that.

1588
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:09,360
But yeah, the haters are starting to pop up.

1589
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:14,080
So I think even the haters, even the haters, you guys are helping us grow and giving us

1590
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:15,080
content.

1591
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:16,080
This does nothing but fuel me.

1592
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:17,080
And I laugh and I keep it moving.

1593
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:18,080
So I appreciate you guys there too.

1594
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:19,080
But we will be back on Sunday.

1595
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:28,080
I'm going to assume we are going to have a ton of answers on Thursday's presser.

1596
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:33,080
And I think Cody is also scheduled to be on Smackdown on Friday, if I'm not mistaken.

1597
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:34,080
I think it's great.

1598
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:38,080
I don't think I don't think Roman or The Rock is scheduled to be on Smackdown.

1599
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:40,080
Ain't nothing new for that.

1600
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:41,080
The workhorse, Cody.

1601
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:42,080
Working, working where he needs to work.

1602
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:45,080
So we appreciate you.

1603
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:46,080
Boom, boom.

1604
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:51,600
So we will talk about that and we are out of here.

1605
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:52,600
See you guys then.

1606
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:53,600
Peace.

1607
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:54,600
Director says cut.

1608
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:55,600
We're still here.

1609
01:20:55,600 --> 01:21:15,600
They're still going.