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Episode 84 in the house.

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TFW podcast.

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That's freaking wrestling.

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I am Matt joined by Ishan and Rodeja.

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The good, the bad, the ugly of AEW full gears.

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We will be diving into on this beautiful Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday.

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What's up, folks?

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How y'all doing?

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Good, the bad, the ugly.

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At first I thought you were talking about us.

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I'm like, well, who's who?

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And then AEW, there's only one thing I really want to talk about from full gear.

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But we have a show to produce, so let's go.

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All right.

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And that one thing you want to talk about is that what probably should have been the

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main event.

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Is that what people could say is the good, bad and ugly of professional wrestling?

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Is that what could be and could go down as one of the best matches in wrestling history?

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Is that possibly what you're talking about?

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That's exactly what I'm talking about.

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I mean, hey, I'm on y'all guys time.

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We can go where you want.

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If y'all want to start there, we can.

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If y'all want to start with the real main event, we can start there.

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Eshaan, you call it.

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Where should we start when we're talking about full gear?

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I love, see, I represent women, you know, love the women, my sister, my wife, my mom,

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who's coming to visit me today from Detroit.

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So in honor of all the women I support, Rhodesia is very passionate about something.

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So I want to hear it.

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Tell us what you got.

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We're talking about what should have been the main event.

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Let's go.

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Let's go right to it.

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Again, we can spend the next 40 minutes talking about this.

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Y'all know, y'all know I can't stand gruesome matches.

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What I saw, I can't even put into words.

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It was probably the most beautiful, the most gruesome.

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Okay, remember all that shit we was talking about how Hague man should have killed him

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on site?

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This makes up for all of that.

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All of that.

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So I said last night, and I wanted to make sure I wasn't full of hyperbole, hyperbole

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when I said it, because I thought about it.

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And I know I was not.

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The hyperbole could have been, that was the best match I've ever seen, right?

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In history of out of the tens of thousands of matches I watched, that's the best thing

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I've ever seen.

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I don't think you can say that like immediately when something's over.

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That wasn't where my mind went though.

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My mind went to for what I saw, for what that was.

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That was the best match I'd ever seen.

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And when I say for what that is, you can take that however you want to take it.

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If you want to take it for a death match, if you want to take it for a personal real

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life disagreement, if you want to take it for a story thread that makes perfect sense

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for somebody to come into your home and threaten your entire family and that existence, it

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was the best thing I had ever seen.

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And I know for a fact that is how I feel.

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Still to this day, and I'm going to feel like that until somebody tops it.

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That was magic.

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It was beautiful in the craziest way.

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That is the kind of magic, and that's not for everybody.

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And I understand with the bloodborne diseases that's out there, I can understand somebody

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just saying, hey, putting blood in your mouth from somebody else's body is way too far.

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I'm over it.

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I get that.

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But for art, that is the perfect match that I would show somebody if they ever ask me,

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man, why do you like wrestling so much?

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I would put that match and say, hey, I understand this may not be for you.

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Do you like scary movies?

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Okay, you do.

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Do you like drama?

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Okay, you do.

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Do you like comedy?

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Okay, you do.

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All right, just sit down with a- Open mind.

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Open mind, open mind, and just watch what these two people do for our enjoyment and

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the levels they went to tell a story of a guy who will go to the depths of hell to get

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something out of another guy and another guy who feels like he is untouchable and I'm going

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to go into your home and threaten your family, oh yeah, and your newborn baby.

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Just keep that in mind while you watch this entire match.

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And I would just love to hear what they have to say after that.

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That is how highly I thought.

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And so on Saturday, I watched an interview with Swerve and they asked him in the interview,

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hey, are you excited for the death match?

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If you guys don't know, Swerve did a lot of death matches in Lucha Underground when he

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was under the hood, et cetera, et cetera.

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And he's like, well, no, I'm not excited for a death match.

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You can't really get excited for what you're about to put your body through, but I have

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to switch my mind.

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I have to go to a different mindset and once the lights hit, I know I'll be there.

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When I saw that, when I thought about it, I was like, damn, that is true because we

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are so used to just violence in pro wrestling.

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And we're going to talk about the Wednesday match also.

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All right, let's just throw this violence for violence a lot of times.

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And when he said I have to get into a different mentality and mindset, my thought was like,

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oh shit, he's right.

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To really embody the character, to embody the story we're trying to tell, to embody

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what I'm about to put my body through.

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That's a different mentality.

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I didn't think it would be like that, but I was really excited to watch that after I

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heard that.

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I was like, okay, they got something up for this because they know the type of story this

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needs to be told.

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We came on the pile, like what he's just saying was like, man, hold on a second.

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This guy broke into your home and all you do is put him through a table.

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And from the jump, Hangman did not even wait for his entrance music.

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They already set the tone for me there.

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You don't see that.

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You don't see one of your biggest baby faces don't even get an entrance.

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But that is how much I need to get to this guy.

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That is how much I'm going to destroy him.

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I want to kill him with my bare hands.

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I thought they did a fantastic job.

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And then the match was just, like I said, it was beautiful violence, beautiful art.

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E, you've been on the Swerve bandwagon the way we have.

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We've talked about this was the match.

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I'm glad I was wrong about Hangman going over.

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I said I wanted to go one-on-one and then you go worlds in to do the rubber match.

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We got what we got last night.

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What was your thoughts while you were watching that match?

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And then just where Swerve is right now and his ascension to the top of AW.

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I'm really surprised you guys said I was the best match you guys ever seen.

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I'm not going to discredit that.

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I just didn't think that when I watched the match.

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I wasn't thinking about ranking it at the time.

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I just knew it was really great what I saw.

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And for me, I agree with everything you said.

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And the big thing for me was the story around it.

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They really sold it on Dynamite.

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He came out and cut the promo that you needed to cut.

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You knew that he was in that zone.

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I said from the beginning, I thought that this story would bring the best out of Hangman

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and out of each other.

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I thought it was going to take Swerve up another level.

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I thought it was going to take Hangman up another level.

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And it has.

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It was a little bit slow.

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I think in what needs to be done after Swerve, through the t-shirt and the baby's crib and

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try to suffocate or whatever he tried to do.

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I've seen it all, you get the merch, man.

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You know what I'm saying?

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But once it got to the point they needed to get to, it got there very, very well.

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And as you said, I knew the rap was going to be good when Hangman didn't even wait for

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his intro.

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And what did I say on the last part?

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I was like, man, this man, after Swerve snuck into the crib, literally snuck into the crib,

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the next week, Hangman's getting ready for a match.

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He got his gear on, he waited and got ready for his...

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He didn't have his gear on.

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He came out there, he probably ripped his shirt off before he came out, slid right into

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the ring.

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Let's get to it.

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Great.

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Because that's what it is.

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Man, look, I'm not waiting for no music.

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We're not doing no whole intro.

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I'm not posing for the camera.

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It's none of that, bro.

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It's on site when I see you.

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That's how I felt.

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That felt like a real encounter that anybody could feel.

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Like, look, this man invaded my house.

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He tried to suffocate my child.

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Bro, it's on.

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Really, really great.

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And then, I was reminded back a little bit, I loved the little intro with Swerve and then

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Nana come out there with his little pants on.

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And he was hitting that so hard.

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They killed it.

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They hit it so hard.

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He came out with the whole thing.

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And then, they stepped out of the way for Swerve so he can come out there.

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He looked around like he's above what's happening.

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I like how he's kind of doing.

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Playing off Nana, he's kind of like, I'm kind of above this.

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He sees him.

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Almost like he's like a fly, like buzzing around him.

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Because it's not time for that.

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You know what I'm saying?

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It's not time for the games.

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So I love Nana doing the Who's House.

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It's not time for me to do that.

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And I also love too.

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So you talk about storytelling.

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And this was for me, like, if I could get, I can't really get goosebumps on my body.

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It feels like my hair grows when I get super excited.

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I always say that.

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But I don't get goosebumps.

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Another thing that I thought was really under the radar that was goosebumps worthy for me

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when you talk about a story was when Hangman put Nana through the table.

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And Nana tried to get out of it by just doing what he does.

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I'm gonna just dance and you just gonna go along with it.

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Because that's what I do.

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Right?

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I dance and everybody just loves.

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They like it.

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They think I'm funny.

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And now, like, okay, I'm getting over by it.

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That is whoever helped them put that match together.

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And I got a feeling a lot of that stuff came from them too.

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Yeah.

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Because we got to start giving Hangman props for being what A.W.'s probably truly embodies

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as a performer.

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I think if you look back at like some of A.W.'s best singles matches, I think Hangman is like

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in arguably two or three out of the top, like 10 matches of all time.

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But bro, like the matches.

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I mean, they all got good matches, man.

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We can all sit there.

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But it's not about matches to me.

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What I said about bringing someone out as Hangman was like something like this, his

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level of storytelling in this match was like something he's never done before.

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Like, and here's the thing.

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I don't think he's really been in a real, I mean, you know, you got the wrestling stories.

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Right?

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He was like, yeah, that was in that one.

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That was a shoot though.

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Right?

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Like imagine the business they could be.

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I don't think he's ever really wrestled in something that he had.

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Because like, what are they really wrestling about?

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They're not wrestling for a title.

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They're not wrestling for a number one contender in a match.

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This is a blood feud.

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And that's what we got, blood feud.

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Right?

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He tapped into something.

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Right?

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He's fighting for himself, his family, his child.

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Like and you felt that in the match.

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I think we got something out of Hangman that we've never gotten before.

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Just his level of like losing my word for it.

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But he just, it just was a different level because I think that, you know, he was fighting

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for something.

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He really felt connected to this specific story.

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And I wonder where they go from here.

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Like, right?

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Because Swerve had to choke this man out to keep him down for that 10.

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Right?

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Like, where are we going next?

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He hung Hangman.

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He hung Hangman.

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Now that I can finally gather my thoughts, I'm going to fully break down what we saw

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last night.

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And thanks, Matt, for saying the good, bad and the ugly.

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And then what we got out of this, as far as like a movie, if you like drama, you like

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comedy, if you like scary.

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We just start with drama.

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So we already get the beautifulness of him staple gunning his son's finger art on his

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face.

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You get the drama out of that.

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You get the comedy relief from the intro.

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Like you said, when I was killing it with the dancers and him dancing right before he

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got taken down.

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Then we go and look at scary, scary is everything else.

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Everything else, the glass, all of it.

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And then irony, you got real glass too.

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I laughed though.

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One of my emotions of this, of the whole match when the full glass came out, because I'm

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like, let's God, please let it be candy corn.

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Please let it be candy corn.

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That better be some sugar.

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I don't think it was.

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That better be some sugar.

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I was like, please let it be candy corn.

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Matthew was like, no, my eyes passed Halloween.

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He's like, maybe candy canes.

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And then the glass came out and all I could do was laugh.

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And then the irony to wrap it all up.

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Hangman getting hanged, hung, hanged, hung, hung, whatever you want to call it.

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That was beautiful.

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I didn't even peep that.

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Wow.

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I'm sure.

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Yeah.

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It's beautiful.

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And y'all know I hate these kinds of matches.

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Y'all know I actually had a walk away after he drank the blood.

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I did walk away because I was like, okay, this is like just too much for me.

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But I had immediately ran back to finish watching the match because I'm like, what I'm watching

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here is something beautiful.

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What that tells you is you don't hate those types of matches.

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You hate those types of matches when you feel like it's unnecessary.

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Okay.

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If they would have done that match because I need to take your heavyweight championship

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from you and you're the king of death match.

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So I'm going to be a death match wrestler on this show.

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You'd be like, this ain't it, man.

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But the story.

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Yeah.

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I called for it.

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Yeah.

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I said last night, like if I was an emotional person, I would have probably shed a tear

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during the match and not because they were like killing themselves because I really thought

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how beautiful of art that they're doing.

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These people are putting their bodies on the line for a story and for our entertainment

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and they're doing it flawlessly.

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To me it was flawless.

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I made a note yesterday.

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I just kind of just put it in my notes for the show today.

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And I just said, AEW is so necessary.

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And as much as I know I will continue to bitch and moan at times about booking decisions,

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I'm going to talk about one right now to kind of bring it full circle.

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As much as I'm going to complain about things that I think is common sense that could help

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elevate them and elongate some of their storylines or characters and they don't do.

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But AEW is so necessary because we don't get this at a level like this if it wasn't for

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AEW.

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Sure.

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You can go to an independent show and see this.

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Sure.

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You can go to one of the shows and buy a pay-per-view on Fight TV for $10 to see this.

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But on a national, worldwide scale, we would never get this without AEW.

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And you got to take the good with the bad.

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So the bad for me was Wednesday.

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I was in a legit shoot irritating mood Wednesday night after that street fight on Dynamite.

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I'll give you real quick why.

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Kyle Fletcher threw a table off the stage.

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Kyle Fletcher should be done for the entire match.

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A giant who doesn't wrestle on your show just choke slammed you from the stage through

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a table.

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Kyle Fletcher's back up five minutes later working the match.

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To me that undermines what you're doing.

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Brian Cage puts Kenny Omega through two tables super plexed from inside the ring to outside

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on the floor.

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Kenny Omega should be out for the rest of that match.

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Kenny Omega is back working three minutes later.

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That is undermining the actual legit violence and pain these wrestlers are going through.

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You're shooting yourself in the foot because you're not going to continue to get reactions

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because I've seen this already and you come right back.

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And then the finality of it, Koto Bushi takes a tombstone through chairs from the inside

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of the ring to the outside of the ring.

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He's back up in less than two minutes after the good guys win.

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He's up before Kyle Fletcher is.

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That is a legit move that you should be stretchered out on.

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If we're telling the story of Warlow where Warlow hits one powerbomb and then the referee

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completely ends the match.

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How can you give me that on Wednesday where these guys are legit killing themselves and

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we're not selling?

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You're hurting your company and you're setting a really bad precedent for your fan base to

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what to expect.

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So I'm irritated.

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I don't give a damn about MGS promo now at the end of the show because of what you just

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gave me.

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But if it wasn't for that, we wouldn't have gotten what we got last night.

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So I'm still going to complain about those things, but I understand you can't have one

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without the other because it's all creative, how you look at it and how you see it.

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That match for me was worth the price of a mission alone.

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I thought good luck to anybody trying to top that just in general.

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To your point, E, where you go from here is interesting.

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I can't see a third match.

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I think that was pretty decisive of how he beat him.

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And now for Swerve, there is nowhere to go but for the world championship.

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But he's not in line.

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The only thing is, so I also, let me go back to the dynamite thing, man.

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Y'all got to get some shots out there in Chicago, man.

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00:17:58,220 --> 00:18:02,080
I shouldn't let that stinky AEW match ruin your mood like that.

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I felt the same thing you felt.

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This is that AEW that we don't like.

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This is the parts of AEW that we don't like.

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That's why when you see what we saw on Saturday night, that's wrestling done right.

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We talk about storylines and things in those matches because I'm with Rhodesia.

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I'm not a blood match person.

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Especially, I think, at this stage in our life where we kind of-

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We understand what it feels like.

365
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Yeah, I think it's more so like I'm more, I understand what the people are putting their

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bodies through.

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Right.

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Right, right.

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And a lot of times when you see all this blood and all this stuff, when it doesn't mean anything,

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I don't feel anything about it.

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I'm like, man, this dude is hurting himself on TV for my enjoyment.

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And I don't get why you're doing it, right?

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Other than you're hurting yourself.

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But in that match, you got it.

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Because all of us are parents.

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There's nothing I would do, because I would do whatever I can do in my power, blood, whatever,

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to get at somebody if I felt like they hurt my family.

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Right?

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00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,800
So there was a story purpose for that match.

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And yeah, that's what we got.

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But yeah, that's like the dynamite.

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That's shenanigans.

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I hope they kind of can minimize.

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But yeah, it's a great show.

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But I don't know where he goes, man.

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Like, look, you know, you think about MJF, he's had eight different storylines going

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for his championship for like six months, right?

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00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,720
So now some old Joe's next, right?

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We know Wardlow's been talking about him for the past three months, right?

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So we got to get past Joe.

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He got to get past Wardlow.

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What I don't want is Shwerd to be part of the, I don't know, what is it?

393
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The MJF power hour?

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Like this him to be another thing that he's dealing with on his schedule?

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00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,640
No, like, Shwerd is his own problem.

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He's not in addition to another thing.

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He's his own thing.

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Would you be satisfied, both of y'all, if he won the international Triple Crown?

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He being Shwerd?

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Yes, I would.

401
00:20:01,980 --> 00:20:02,980
But I don't know.

402
00:20:02,980 --> 00:20:06,560
I mean, granted, we don't even know what matches are Wednesday on Dynamite.

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I was going to say, I wouldn't throw him right in immediately.

404
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,680
But that would be huge.

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But I don't know, like, if that, I don't know if that fits.

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Why would he care about being in that tournament?

407
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:17,800
Right.

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That's where I'm like, look, like I would.

409
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,640
So I told you guys before, I think I said it before.

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I don't think you guys understand it.

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Like, if I was a wrestling character, it would be Shwerd.

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Like he does a lot of things.

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Like in my mind, I'm thinking like, if I'm that character, why would I want to be in

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that tournament to work that hard?

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Like, right.

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Like I'm already at a level.

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So my management team should be getting me to the next level without me having to work

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so hard.

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For me, I think maybe his next step is Orange Cassidy.

420
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Like, maybe they run that back.

421
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:54,480
Right, right, because like the international championship is arguably like it's their 1B

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championship right now, especially with how many great title offenses Orange Cassidy has.

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I know they had like a brief run, but this is where we're at another level.

424
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,000
Hey, let me ask you a question about that tournament.

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When Eddie Kingston said on Zero Hour that he was putting all his championships on the

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line and so they're going to crown a triple crown champion.

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I'm like, wait a minute, are they introducing another championship?

428
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Please tell me it's just a trophy.

429
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,280
It's not another championship that they're introducing at the end of this tournament.

430
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Please tell me that.

431
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Am I hearing this wrong?

432
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:30,800
I'm understanding it wrong.

433
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:37,640
So Tony Khan reaffirmed in doing the scrum last night.

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They're consolidating all belts into one.

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So they're consolidating the NJPW Strong Belt, they're consolidating the ROH World title

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and the AEW Continental belt.

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00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:54,840
So it's going to be one belt, but basically in all three promotions.

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So it's going to be like probably the first inter promotional title that we've had on

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a major platform in forever.

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So I'm okay with that.

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I'm okay with that.

442
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Because when he first said that I was like, okay, that adds some gravitas to the tournament.

443
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I'm like, because whoever wins now is going to be champion.

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And then I was like, hold on a second.

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Because when they said like, what did they call it?

446
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They said it was a triple crown.

447
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So now I'm doing the math.

448
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I'm like three.

449
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:24,720
Where's the third belt?

450
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:29,600
I was like, oh hell, are they doing like another belt for this?

451
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It's another belt.

452
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I'm good with them consolidating it.

453
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:38,000
So they're going to have an inter promotional championship for New Japan and AEW.

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And ROH title.

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So I'm 100% okay with that.

456
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But it was funny because when you were saying the triple crown, I was counting, I was trying

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to do my Scott Siner math.

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I'm like, yeah, this ain't adding up.

459
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In the end, it's going to be the Continental Championship.

460
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:55,520
I'm so down for that because every time we talk about in sports, even in basketball,

461
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you talk about like the world champions, but really not the world champions.

462
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You're just a champion of that said league.

463
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This is actually BINUS WWE.

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You are like a champion of multiple companies.

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And to me, I like that because it is worldwide.

466
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So I'm kind of, and it's kind of, and it's kind of, and it's kind of sports centric.

467
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:13,560
That's kind of funky though.

468
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,080
So if you've got an ROH brand, you don't have an ROH champion.

469
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You got a Continental champion.

470
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If you're a new, new Japan, I'm not sure how that pro thing worked.

471
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I'm not sure what is that's different from the strong belt.

472
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:25,320
Yeah.

473
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,640
I'm not sure how that's different from, but so you don't actually, if it's a promotion,

474
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:29,640
you don't actually have a champion.

475
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:34,600
You got a champion that's kind of affiliated with ROH, AEW.

476
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:35,600
That just seems kind of-

477
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,600
But you have RH TV championship, right?

478
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:38,600
Can we still have that?

479
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:39,600
Yeah.

480
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:40,600
You still got the TV.

481
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,880
You still have, I mean, you got, I don't give a damn about ROH.

482
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,400
I'll ask you guys about the whole Rhonda thing here after we get through a couple more of

483
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these matches.

484
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:50,400
I don't think we have enough time.

485
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:51,400
I don't think we have enough time for that for today.

486
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:52,400
We ain't got enough time for it.

487
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:53,400
We gotta watch the Lions play.

488
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Hey look, we got a half hour.

489
00:23:55,600 --> 00:24:00,600
I do think that on paper, if we were looking at this as a shoot sport, you would say like,

490
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,640
oh, this is the most prestigious belt.

491
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,480
You got to go through an entire tournament that's going to be continuing.

492
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,800
He also said like, this is going to be a yearly thing at the same time, which I also think

493
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,720
is kind of cool because it's going to lead you right into Wrestle Kingdom.

494
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:17,240
But that also tells me also how much in bed in JPW and AEW.

495
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,720
Of course we know they were in bed because of the Forbidden Door shows and hey, Billy

496
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:22,720
Goat.

497
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,000
He went out to Will Ospreay signing and now he's All Elite.

498
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,600
His contract wasn't up until February.

499
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:32,920
So if he's already on a handshake deal or if he's already signed on paper to Tony Khan

500
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:37,400
and AEW, that just shows you how close AEW and NJPW is.

501
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:38,400
I'm good with it.

502
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,120
I am looking forward to this tournament though because I do think for people who don't watch

503
00:24:42,120 --> 00:24:48,280
NJPW and for us that like when we cared about the summer turning, you had to try to watch

504
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,840
it at four o'clock in the morning, six o'clock in the morning.

505
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:55,440
I haven't been like that with NJPW for years, but we're going to have kind of our own now

506
00:24:55,440 --> 00:25:00,800
tournament that should give us that same type of feeling, those same type of major, huge

507
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:01,800
matches.

508
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,360
Tony said, hey, there's going to be no outside interference.

509
00:25:04,360 --> 00:25:08,800
So we know it's going to be just one-on-one, one point for a draw, three points for a victory.

510
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:13,760
I am excited to see how this plays out starting this week.

511
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,000
Let's talk about the main event.

512
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,240
Before we talk about the main event though, let's talk about the pre-show.

513
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:24,600
I had said, I think I even tweeted it on X, follow us if you are not, that's FNW.

514
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:30,560
At the end of the pre-show, when they had the shot of Adam Cole kind of looking in disbelief

515
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:35,720
and what am I going to do when MJF is just like, don't let them take my title.

516
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:42,320
I said, this is the best cliffhanger of a pre-show that I think I've ever seen.

517
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:48,160
Don't know if it was smart business because your guy in the main event, your top baby

518
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,720
face is being shown going to the hospital at the beginning of your show.

519
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,400
I'm sure that didn't impact anybody.

520
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,240
I don't think anybody saw that and said, let me not buy it because MJF is not wrestling

521
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,680
tonight.

522
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:05,120
But the payoff I thought, I thought it was a whole bunch of bullshit and shenanigans

523
00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:06,120
for no reason.

524
00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:13,320
Now I'm the person on the pod that said, I don't care about this build to MJF, JY, we

525
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,320
know it's going to be a great match.

526
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,320
I don't care about the build though.

527
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,320
We know what's going to happen.

528
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:17,320
MJF is going to win and get his belt back.

529
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,080
I said that last week.

530
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,800
So they added a lot to it.

531
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:31,720
But if you didn't watch the pre-show and you just started full gear when the bell rung

532
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:36,880
for the main event, you didn't miss anything.

533
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:37,880
And they did TV.

534
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:38,880
I talk about episodic TV.

535
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:39,880
Yep.

536
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,080
I wanted some of that, but I also wanted some type of payoff.

537
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:48,520
And to have MJF work a match where the guns destroyed his leg, he probably should have

538
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,120
been out for weeks the way they put it down on him in that pre-show.

539
00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:54,280
And he comes back, he works a match.

540
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:59,120
Then he does like some signature spots, like he does a nip up, but then like he can't like

541
00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:05,360
throw a punch and then Adam Cole's out there giving the match away.

542
00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:07,600
He can't grab the ring in enough time.

543
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,800
He's like, I'm like, okay, what are we doing here?

544
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,960
So for all that to happen, and he just beats JY.

545
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,680
And what the hell does that say for JY?

546
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,640
Now you can't beat a one legged MJF.

547
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,340
I don't think they did him any favors either.

548
00:27:22,340 --> 00:27:25,880
So what was your guys' kind of thoughts just about how we got to that main event last night

549
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:33,160
and then nothing consequential happening between Cole and MJF?

550
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,640
How we got to there is fun.

551
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:35,640
That was fine.

552
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:36,640
I liked that.

553
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:37,640
It was fun.

554
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,120
Like you mentioned, if you didn't watch the Zero Dark 30 hour, then you probably would

555
00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:42,680
have been like, what happened here?

556
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,160
You really didn't miss anything.

557
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,400
But I'm going to be completely honest and I'm going to lay out here.

558
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:53,840
And mainly with the Bucks matching Kenny and Jericho, I completely, first off, the Kenny

559
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,920
match with Young Bucks and Jericho.

560
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,720
I didn't watch one second of it because I was still in disbelief of what I saw from

561
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:00,720
the death match.

562
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,320
Like, I don't know anything that happened in that match, like at all.

563
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,240
So I at least said, let me like sit down and really try to watch this, this main event,

564
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,680
because like my mind and my intention isn't here.

565
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,560
I just thought it was just a, I thought it was a good match.

566
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:12,560
And that was it.

567
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:18,040
The only takeaway I have from it was he still did that elbow drop when the table was already

568
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,120
busted.

569
00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:20,680
I didn't want him to do it.

570
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:21,680
He did it anyways.

571
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,360
That was my only like, holy shit moment.

572
00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:27,640
Other than that, everything else to me either felt like just a simple match, but it's not

573
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,720
fair because of what I just saw.

574
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:34,040
Anybody who followed that death match could have kicked rocks to be honest with you.

575
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:38,160
MJF is the new super John Cena.

576
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,160
He's new super Cena.

577
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,160
That's what it is.

578
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,160
That's what it is.

579
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,160
It was a lot going on.

580
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,160
It was a lot going on.

581
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,160
You think you're saying John Cena?

582
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,160
You know, I actually was kind of excited to see him.

583
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,160
I was like, I'm going to go to the gym.

584
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,160
I'm going to go to the gym.

585
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,160
I'm going to go to the gym.

586
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,160
I'm going to go to the gym.

587
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,160
I'm going to go to the gym.

588
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,160
I'm going to go to the gym.

589
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,160
I'm going to go to the gym.

590
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,160
I'm going to go to the gym.

591
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,160
I'm going to go to the gym.

592
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,160
I'm going to go to the gym.

593
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:56,420
He was trying to pick two words, we started at that point when we were all kind of being

594
00:28:56,420 --> 00:28:58,360
totally

595
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:11,420
like, you know, every person's a

596
00:29:09,060 --> 00:29:14,100
I loved like his little heel, stuff that he was doing, the taunting that he was doing.

597
00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:15,900
Like he has a lot of character.

598
00:29:15,900 --> 00:29:18,780
I thought he looked silky smooth in the match.

599
00:29:18,780 --> 00:29:23,440
I thought Jay White did a really good job.

600
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,700
The match and layout itself, it was kind of wonky, but this is what we've gotten from

601
00:29:27,700 --> 00:29:33,160
MJF and his storylines for months now.

602
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:40,220
So I was kind of okay with it, but hey, it was what it was.

603
00:29:40,220 --> 00:29:46,860
Were you okay with, were you okay after the pay-per-view was over?

604
00:29:46,860 --> 00:29:51,260
So they signed off, it's over, okay, there's no double review reveal.

605
00:29:51,260 --> 00:29:52,260
There's no heel turn.

606
00:29:52,260 --> 00:29:54,540
There's no return or anything like that.

607
00:29:54,540 --> 00:29:56,740
In that moment, were you okay?

608
00:29:56,740 --> 00:30:00,420
Are you saying you were just okay with all the shenanigans leading up to we're signing

609
00:30:00,420 --> 00:30:02,300
off on the pay-per-view?

610
00:30:02,300 --> 00:30:06,780
I gotta tell you something, I was ready for the show to be over.

611
00:30:06,780 --> 00:30:11,020
I mean, not because the matches were bad or anything in particular because I was mad about

612
00:30:11,020 --> 00:30:14,680
it, that was a long night, man.

613
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,860
The show starts at 6.30, right?

614
00:30:16,860 --> 00:30:19,520
I think I got ready for it at 6.

615
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,340
So I'm sitting there from 6 to midnight.

616
00:30:23,340 --> 00:30:24,340
Three pre-show matches.

617
00:30:24,340 --> 00:30:25,340
Right?

618
00:30:25,340 --> 00:30:29,340
I'm sitting there from 6 to midnight watching this thing, man.

619
00:30:29,340 --> 00:30:33,380
And that blood for you, because that wasn't the match I came to see.

620
00:30:33,380 --> 00:30:35,660
That was the match I told you I was on 10th floor.

621
00:30:35,660 --> 00:30:42,900
The hangman's were, I mean, there was a lot of energy just expended in that match, right?

622
00:30:42,900 --> 00:30:45,220
And just from start to finish, most of the matches were good.

623
00:30:45,220 --> 00:30:48,420
I mean, I don't know if we have time to talk about the ladies, but I think the ladies showed

624
00:30:48,420 --> 00:30:49,420
out in their matches.

625
00:30:49,420 --> 00:30:50,420
Yeah.

626
00:30:50,420 --> 00:30:51,420
Talk about it.

627
00:30:51,420 --> 00:30:52,420
Talk about it.

628
00:30:52,420 --> 00:30:53,420
It was a long night.

629
00:30:53,420 --> 00:30:57,740
So by the end, I'm glad they didn't have a reveal because it was something I had to

630
00:30:57,740 --> 00:31:00,140
now mentally focus on.

631
00:31:00,140 --> 00:31:01,860
But yeah, I mean, talk about the women.

632
00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:02,860
Yeah, talk about it.

633
00:31:02,860 --> 00:31:04,220
Like Tony Storm.

634
00:31:04,220 --> 00:31:05,580
I love Sierra's champion.

635
00:31:05,580 --> 00:31:06,580
Yep.

636
00:31:06,580 --> 00:31:07,580
Talk about it.

637
00:31:07,580 --> 00:31:11,300
Mariah May came out and gave her her flowers.

638
00:31:11,300 --> 00:31:14,060
And she was kind of upset.

639
00:31:14,060 --> 00:31:15,480
This was a strange thing.

640
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,180
We had the Women's World Championship match, right?

641
00:31:19,180 --> 00:31:23,100
Now you would think in the women's division that is their top of the line.

642
00:31:23,100 --> 00:31:25,460
That's like, I started number one title for the women.

643
00:31:25,460 --> 00:31:29,420
But then you had that triple threat match for the TVS title.

644
00:31:29,420 --> 00:31:30,420
Talk about it.

645
00:31:30,420 --> 00:31:33,100
And them girls showed up and showed out.

646
00:31:33,100 --> 00:31:34,100
Talk about it.

647
00:31:34,100 --> 00:31:35,100
Two for two.

648
00:31:35,100 --> 00:31:40,820
Hey, Tony Khan, it is okay to book two women's matches on the same show because look what

649
00:31:40,820 --> 00:31:41,820
we got.

650
00:31:41,820 --> 00:31:43,820
I thought they both exceeded expectations.

651
00:31:43,820 --> 00:31:45,780
Well, I'm not going to say they both exceeded.

652
00:31:45,780 --> 00:31:48,420
To your point, they showed up and showed out the triple threat match.

653
00:31:48,420 --> 00:31:50,300
I was like, salute women.

654
00:31:50,300 --> 00:31:51,620
I thought that was fantastic.

655
00:31:51,620 --> 00:31:52,900
No, they exceeded.

656
00:31:52,900 --> 00:31:53,900
I thought the white person went over.

657
00:31:53,900 --> 00:31:55,060
That was beyond what I thought they were going to do.

658
00:31:55,060 --> 00:31:56,060
Even both of them.

659
00:31:56,060 --> 00:31:58,100
And everybody has opinions.

660
00:31:58,100 --> 00:31:59,340
So whatever on that.

661
00:31:59,340 --> 00:32:04,580
But I go on social media last night after the show was over because I really wasn't

662
00:32:04,580 --> 00:32:07,100
on much during the show.

663
00:32:07,100 --> 00:32:11,900
Because a lot of times you'll go on during the show and you'll see something that either

664
00:32:11,900 --> 00:32:13,700
pisses you off or you don't agree with.

665
00:32:13,700 --> 00:32:16,660
And then it kind of like taints what you think you just watched.

666
00:32:16,660 --> 00:32:22,660
So I'm starting to pull back from watching the shows and then watching my timeline.

667
00:32:22,660 --> 00:32:27,300
And I'll still tweet through the shows, but maybe I just won't check the actual timeline

668
00:32:27,300 --> 00:32:28,300
itself.

669
00:32:28,300 --> 00:32:31,620
So I saw somebody like, what are we doing here?

670
00:32:31,620 --> 00:32:35,780
What is going on with the AEW women's division?

671
00:32:35,780 --> 00:32:39,340
Since when is it the wrong thing to put the title on your most over character?

672
00:32:39,340 --> 00:32:41,900
What are we talking about?

673
00:32:41,900 --> 00:32:43,540
I would like to know why they say that.

674
00:32:43,540 --> 00:32:47,860
Maybe that person was just, you get a lot of pro, WB, anti, AEW, vice versa.

675
00:32:47,860 --> 00:32:49,980
But it's just like, we're complaining about that?

676
00:32:49,980 --> 00:32:53,260
Now maybe you're just the biggest Sheetha fan in the world.

677
00:32:53,260 --> 00:32:58,460
Even if you're the biggest Sheetha fan in the world, Tony, when she comes on, all eyes

678
00:32:58,460 --> 00:32:59,680
are on her.

679
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:00,680
That was the right move.

680
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,580
Now we got to see what the follow up is.

681
00:33:03,580 --> 00:33:06,660
I don't want to keep bouncing these titles back and forth.

682
00:33:06,660 --> 00:33:10,420
But I thought both women's matches did exactly what it needed to do.

683
00:33:10,420 --> 00:33:15,100
You guys got some more of your sky blue character change.

684
00:33:15,100 --> 00:33:16,460
Like she got new music.

685
00:33:16,460 --> 00:33:18,940
She took the hat off, put the new little crown on.

686
00:33:18,940 --> 00:33:21,180
Okay, so now she's telling us kind of where she's at.

687
00:33:21,180 --> 00:33:23,580
I just thought it was great.

688
00:33:23,580 --> 00:33:27,700
I do want to spend time talking about both of these matches separately, because I think

689
00:33:27,700 --> 00:33:31,660
both of those matches, the women matches, were great.

690
00:33:31,660 --> 00:33:33,060
And I don't think they should be clumped in.

691
00:33:33,060 --> 00:33:37,020
Because like what you just said to Tony, hey, you can have two women matches on your show

692
00:33:37,020 --> 00:33:38,020
and it'd be just fine.

693
00:33:38,020 --> 00:33:41,020
Oh wow, I put my fingers up and got balloons.

694
00:33:41,020 --> 00:33:42,020
Hey, I told you.

695
00:33:42,020 --> 00:33:43,020
Got the peas on it.

696
00:33:43,020 --> 00:33:44,020
And the balloons in the back.

697
00:33:44,020 --> 00:33:45,020
That must be the balloon gang sign I just threw up.

698
00:33:45,020 --> 00:33:46,020
First, let's start with the-

699
00:33:46,020 --> 00:33:47,020
It don't work for me.

700
00:33:47,020 --> 00:33:54,980
For starters, let's talk about in the women's championship.

701
00:33:54,980 --> 00:34:01,260
I want to give Sheida her flowers because Sheida is just so good, so solid in the ring.

702
00:34:01,260 --> 00:34:02,560
Just the things that she does.

703
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,420
And I had made a note here that when she went for her rope break, she didn't just go with

704
00:34:06,420 --> 00:34:07,500
her fingers.

705
00:34:07,500 --> 00:34:09,260
She grabbed with her forearm.

706
00:34:09,260 --> 00:34:13,180
Like it's like the little things like that that she does that to me just like, wow, like

707
00:34:13,180 --> 00:34:14,260
bravo to you.

708
00:34:14,260 --> 00:34:17,820
You kept that division, you held it down.

709
00:34:17,820 --> 00:34:21,780
Of course, we can always bitch and moan about the women's division in AEW, but you held

710
00:34:21,780 --> 00:34:24,460
it down and you made that belt still mean something to me.

711
00:34:24,460 --> 00:34:26,700
So I am going to give you your flowers.

712
00:34:26,700 --> 00:34:31,700
May Tony third reign be better than her second reign because we all know the last time she

713
00:34:31,700 --> 00:34:36,420
had the championship, just how she was an afterthought to me when she was down.

714
00:34:36,420 --> 00:34:37,420
What were they called?

715
00:34:37,420 --> 00:34:38,420
Not damage control.

716
00:34:38,420 --> 00:34:39,420
Outcast.

717
00:34:39,420 --> 00:34:40,420
Outcast.

718
00:34:40,420 --> 00:34:42,940
It was just like, you remember how I felt one time she came out without even having

719
00:34:42,940 --> 00:34:44,300
her belt on and that pissed me off.

720
00:34:44,300 --> 00:34:47,620
So may her third reign be the best reign ever.

721
00:34:47,620 --> 00:34:52,260
Now let's go over to the TBS championship.

722
00:34:52,260 --> 00:34:56,620
Last two episodes ago, I went off about sky blue, right?

723
00:34:56,620 --> 00:34:58,720
I did.

724
00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:03,620
She completely changed her cadences for me.

725
00:35:03,620 --> 00:35:07,740
That match was so good to me that when it comes to triple threats, it can be either

726
00:35:07,740 --> 00:35:11,160
really good or really just like clunky because of timing and getting the match up.

727
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,860
And I remember thinking that they had the equal amount of triple action and the equal

728
00:35:15,860 --> 00:35:18,140
amount of just like solos going back and forth.

729
00:35:18,140 --> 00:35:21,020
It was produced very, very well for me.

730
00:35:21,020 --> 00:35:25,940
I was fully engaged to that whole match and it had my full attention the entire time.

731
00:35:25,940 --> 00:35:31,380
All three women look beautiful in the, just the chemistry and just the thing that Julia

732
00:35:31,380 --> 00:35:35,180
and sky is so young, so young.

733
00:35:35,180 --> 00:35:37,820
So you can only imagine where they're going to go from here.

734
00:35:37,820 --> 00:35:47,180
Rewind six months and say, Hey, full gear TBS triple threat, Stan Lander, sky blue,

735
00:35:47,180 --> 00:35:48,180
Julia Hart.

736
00:35:48,180 --> 00:35:50,820
We'd be like, what the fuck?

737
00:35:50,820 --> 00:35:52,140
How A&W fell off.

738
00:35:52,140 --> 00:35:53,140
That's what we probably would have thought.

739
00:35:53,140 --> 00:35:54,340
And I'll be damned if you look at that match.

740
00:35:54,340 --> 00:35:56,380
He was like, man, they smoked it.

741
00:35:56,380 --> 00:35:57,380
They did.

742
00:35:57,380 --> 00:35:58,380
They really did.

743
00:35:58,380 --> 00:36:02,900
You know, Ethan watched that match with me and he actually was kind of watched a good

744
00:36:02,900 --> 00:36:08,180
portion of it and he's like, it's red versus blue versus purple.

745
00:36:08,180 --> 00:36:11,500
He's like, daddy, did you know that red and blue makes purple?

746
00:36:11,500 --> 00:36:12,500
That's so awesome.

747
00:36:12,500 --> 00:36:13,500
Look at him.

748
00:36:13,500 --> 00:36:14,500
You got a genius over there.

749
00:36:14,500 --> 00:36:16,180
So then I'm like, yes, that's true.

750
00:36:16,180 --> 00:36:18,020
Like, Hey, you know what?

751
00:36:18,020 --> 00:36:20,700
Was that by the Chris do that intentionally?

752
00:36:20,700 --> 00:36:21,700
Like, wow.

753
00:36:21,700 --> 00:36:22,700
Okay.

754
00:36:22,700 --> 00:36:24,980
Well, I thought it was a really good match, man.

755
00:36:24,980 --> 00:36:27,340
And I was interested in Rhodesian and how you felt about sky.

756
00:36:27,340 --> 00:36:29,660
Cause I think like, I was telling her, Hey, give her some time.

757
00:36:29,660 --> 00:36:36,620
Like she's, it's a slow character change for, I'm very, very tempted me, uh, interested

758
00:36:36,620 --> 00:36:38,020
to see where she goes with the character.

759
00:36:38,020 --> 00:36:39,020
Right.

760
00:36:39,020 --> 00:36:40,020
She has to look down.

761
00:36:40,020 --> 00:36:41,020
I thought she looked phenomenal.

762
00:36:41,020 --> 00:36:44,140
I think it's a great look for, um, I just need to know what this character is, what's

763
00:36:44,140 --> 00:36:45,420
her intention, what's her motivation.

764
00:36:45,420 --> 00:36:46,980
I hope we get that from her.

765
00:36:46,980 --> 00:36:47,980
Like, right.

766
00:36:47,980 --> 00:36:49,340
Like that's, that's the next stage.

767
00:36:49,340 --> 00:36:50,340
Okay, cool.

768
00:36:50,340 --> 00:36:51,580
Your, your look is different, right?

769
00:36:51,580 --> 00:36:53,940
Like, but tell me who you are.

770
00:36:53,940 --> 00:36:55,980
Why, why are you at the point right now?

771
00:36:55,980 --> 00:36:57,540
Like, what's, what's the next thing?

772
00:36:57,540 --> 00:36:58,540
And what's the story?

773
00:36:58,540 --> 00:36:59,540
What's going to be believable?

774
00:36:59,540 --> 00:37:02,220
Like, yeah, what's, what's, what's, what's, you know, how is it going to be believable?

775
00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:04,260
But um, Julia Hart, man.

776
00:37:04,260 --> 00:37:05,260
Yeah.

777
00:37:05,260 --> 00:37:07,420
Ah, doing her thing, doing her thing.

778
00:37:07,420 --> 00:37:09,180
So now is she going to be the new champ?

779
00:37:09,180 --> 00:37:12,060
Is she going to be the new leader of house of black?

780
00:37:12,060 --> 00:37:13,060
You're right.

781
00:37:13,060 --> 00:37:14,060
She has gold.

782
00:37:14,060 --> 00:37:15,060
I thought about it.

783
00:37:15,060 --> 00:37:16,060
Right.

784
00:37:16,060 --> 00:37:17,060
I thought of that.

785
00:37:17,060 --> 00:37:18,060
She was on the scrum too.

786
00:37:18,060 --> 00:37:19,060
Last night.

787
00:37:19,060 --> 00:37:22,820
And she just talked about, um, how much she's grown and how when she was the cheerleader,

788
00:37:22,820 --> 00:37:28,380
it was interesting to hear her talk about it because she said in all baby intensive

789
00:37:28,380 --> 00:37:30,660
purposes that like, I wasn't ready.

790
00:37:30,660 --> 00:37:32,020
Like she's like, I would go out there.

791
00:37:32,020 --> 00:37:33,140
I didn't know what I was doing.

792
00:37:33,140 --> 00:37:34,140
I didn't have confidence.

793
00:37:34,140 --> 00:37:36,900
She's like, I will come back to the back and ask people how it was.

794
00:37:36,900 --> 00:37:39,860
And they would just be like, you'll get it eventually.

795
00:37:39,860 --> 00:37:40,860
You'll figure it out eventually.

796
00:37:40,860 --> 00:37:42,700
And she was just like, she was lost.

797
00:37:42,700 --> 00:37:46,380
So I think part of it for her probably was the character of just being a cheerleader.

798
00:37:46,380 --> 00:37:48,440
How do I be that?

799
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,460
But then also how do I work?

800
00:37:50,460 --> 00:37:55,380
You know, and she made a comment of, I'm working a ton of local talent, you know, too many

801
00:37:55,380 --> 00:38:01,460
matches and then now I'm in here with real AEW contracted talent that we can build, you

802
00:38:01,460 --> 00:38:03,460
know, synergy with.

803
00:38:03,460 --> 00:38:05,020
But for her to be 22 years old, right.

804
00:38:05,020 --> 00:38:06,460
And just, she's a star.

805
00:38:06,460 --> 00:38:08,860
I mean, like just, just keep going where they're going with her.

806
00:38:08,860 --> 00:38:13,980
We know a lot of times, AEW doesn't maximize when they get somebody hot, figure out how

807
00:38:13,980 --> 00:38:14,980
to keep her hot.

808
00:38:14,980 --> 00:38:19,380
And I think you got something going, but just that quick.

809
00:38:19,380 --> 00:38:23,580
I think they, the women's division's in a really nice spot right now.

810
00:38:23,580 --> 00:38:25,540
I really, I really, really do.

811
00:38:25,540 --> 00:38:29,300
I'm gonna ask you guys about Ronda Rousey, but before we kind of just skimmed over the

812
00:38:29,300 --> 00:38:33,660
Bucks, Kenny and Jericho's match.

813
00:38:33,660 --> 00:38:40,140
Shout out and props to the four of them because, and yes, three out of four were or still are

814
00:38:40,140 --> 00:38:42,200
EVPs, however you want to look at that.

815
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:49,060
But I am sure when they did the fight card and they were like, all right, got to find

816
00:38:49,060 --> 00:38:57,220
somebody to follow up this hellacious match of forever death match.

817
00:38:57,220 --> 00:38:58,500
Who's gonna take that spot?

818
00:38:58,500 --> 00:39:06,100
And as much as shit as Chris Jericho gets, I am pretty sure he was like, fuck it, give

819
00:39:06,100 --> 00:39:07,100
it to us.

820
00:39:07,100 --> 00:39:08,100
We'll figure it out.

821
00:39:08,100 --> 00:39:13,460
If there's anybody on this card that can not have that crowd come all the way down just

822
00:39:13,460 --> 00:39:17,300
to get them all the way back up for the main event, WWE does that a lot.

823
00:39:17,300 --> 00:39:18,820
I think Jericho's like, we can do it.

824
00:39:18,820 --> 00:39:19,820
And they did it.

825
00:39:19,820 --> 00:39:20,820
They did it.

826
00:39:20,820 --> 00:39:24,740
The first half of the match, I was not paying attention at all because I'm just like, I

827
00:39:24,740 --> 00:39:25,740
don't care.

828
00:39:25,740 --> 00:39:27,500
You're processing what you just saw.

829
00:39:27,500 --> 00:39:29,980
But they did a really nice job.

830
00:39:29,980 --> 00:39:35,180
And this is where I talk about when I say stories matter, character matters, emotion

831
00:39:35,180 --> 00:39:36,180
matters.

832
00:39:36,180 --> 00:39:40,140
Biggest pop of that entire match was when Kenny was going back and forth on who he was

833
00:39:40,140 --> 00:39:41,140
going to be.

834
00:39:41,140 --> 00:39:42,140
Oh, I remember that.

835
00:39:42,140 --> 00:39:43,140
I saw that.

836
00:39:43,140 --> 00:39:44,140
That was toward the end of the match though, right?

837
00:39:44,140 --> 00:39:49,780
There was no flip, no powerbomb spot, no thumbtacks, none of that.

838
00:39:49,780 --> 00:39:56,500
It was, I'm about to hit a knee on one of these people and the crowd got up for it.

839
00:39:56,500 --> 00:39:58,100
So you know, you got it.

840
00:39:58,100 --> 00:39:59,940
That's when you know you're doing it right.

841
00:39:59,940 --> 00:40:02,780
So shout out to them and we'll see where the bucks go.

842
00:40:02,780 --> 00:40:08,260
I do think that this should be a fun thing for them because they've been stagnant to

843
00:40:08,260 --> 00:40:09,540
me forever.

844
00:40:09,540 --> 00:40:14,980
So maybe if they just become what CM Punk said they were, like children and immature

845
00:40:14,980 --> 00:40:15,980
and all that kind of stuff.

846
00:40:15,980 --> 00:40:16,980
Do you agree with them?

847
00:40:16,980 --> 00:40:19,700
This is the best version of them?

848
00:40:19,700 --> 00:40:24,420
I think it's absolutely the best version as of right now, this moment, because do any

849
00:40:24,420 --> 00:40:26,780
of us want to see them as faces?

850
00:40:26,780 --> 00:40:28,700
You know, it's kind of like, ah, not now.

851
00:40:28,700 --> 00:40:33,020
Yeah, because they were much more interesting when they changed their look, right?

852
00:40:33,020 --> 00:40:35,060
Changed their look to what it is currently.

853
00:40:35,060 --> 00:40:36,060
And they started acting like heels.

854
00:40:36,060 --> 00:40:42,740
Because I think in New Japan, they kind of were playing the obnoxious tag team guys,

855
00:40:42,740 --> 00:40:43,740
right?

856
00:40:43,740 --> 00:40:47,060
So maybe this is just a more comfortable role for them to be.

857
00:40:47,060 --> 00:40:48,060
And why not?

858
00:40:48,060 --> 00:40:51,420
Because you know, when I think about it, because you think about them as a tag team, think

859
00:40:51,420 --> 00:40:55,500
about that tag match that we had on there, right?

860
00:40:55,500 --> 00:41:01,900
Like three of the tag teams weren't even regular tag teams in a tag team match.

861
00:41:01,900 --> 00:41:03,620
The World Tag Team title match.

862
00:41:03,620 --> 00:41:05,420
Oh, the ladder match.

863
00:41:05,420 --> 00:41:06,420
Yeah.

864
00:41:06,420 --> 00:41:08,980
But the tag team champions aren't our tag team.

865
00:41:08,980 --> 00:41:13,540
They like they will have need a tag a name, right?

866
00:41:13,540 --> 00:41:18,220
You guys that the Knights of the Black Throne, they're not they're not a team team.

867
00:41:18,220 --> 00:41:19,220
They got a team name.

868
00:41:19,220 --> 00:41:20,220
They're the Black Kings.

869
00:41:20,220 --> 00:41:21,220
Yeah, the Black Throne.

870
00:41:21,220 --> 00:41:22,220
Black Kings.

871
00:41:22,220 --> 00:41:25,220
No, it's the Kings of the Black Throne.

872
00:41:25,220 --> 00:41:26,220
You're actually right.

873
00:41:26,220 --> 00:41:27,220
It was Kings of the Kings of the Black Throne.

874
00:41:27,220 --> 00:41:28,820
Who else is there?

875
00:41:28,820 --> 00:41:29,820
So it's a bunch.

876
00:41:29,820 --> 00:41:33,460
They were kind of thrown together, tag teams for the in some ways.

877
00:41:33,460 --> 00:41:38,700
So even that match, even that match and that match came on before the death match.

878
00:41:38,700 --> 00:41:40,500
You better say what I want you to say.

879
00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:46,420
Say that match was violence just for violence to me.

880
00:41:46,420 --> 00:41:49,580
Like when they made a ladder match on paper, I'm like, OK, cool.

881
00:41:49,580 --> 00:41:52,340
It's a ladder match.

882
00:41:52,340 --> 00:41:54,060
But I just felt like it wasn't needed.

883
00:41:54,060 --> 00:42:01,540
If you're going to keep the belt on Bill and Starks, just do a straight up one on one match

884
00:42:01,540 --> 00:42:03,380
and just just just beat somebody clean.

885
00:42:03,380 --> 00:42:04,380
That division's code.

886
00:42:04,380 --> 00:42:06,020
You know what I mean?

887
00:42:06,020 --> 00:42:07,020
But who?

888
00:42:07,020 --> 00:42:09,020
OK, first off, I was surprised.

889
00:42:09,020 --> 00:42:14,520
Remember, I talk about how a W still surprises me that Ricky Starks and Big Bill still retain.

890
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,740
So I didn't think that was happening by a long shot.

891
00:42:16,740 --> 00:42:20,820
But I wouldn't have wanted to see them in a singles match, a singles tag team match.

892
00:42:20,820 --> 00:42:21,820
There was no interest there.

893
00:42:21,820 --> 00:42:24,100
I actually love the ladder match.

894
00:42:24,100 --> 00:42:27,620
I can appreciate your comment that the ladder match was unneeded, especially after what

895
00:42:27,620 --> 00:42:29,020
we saw in the death match.

896
00:42:29,020 --> 00:42:30,700
So that's a different point of view of it.

897
00:42:30,700 --> 00:42:32,500
But I absolutely love that match.

898
00:42:32,500 --> 00:42:38,380
I absolutely want to give the workhorse of the night to Cash Wheeler.

899
00:42:38,380 --> 00:42:41,380
That entire match, I felt like was all cash.

900
00:42:41,380 --> 00:42:44,900
Every time he was in the ring, every time he was doing something, I'm like, this dude

901
00:42:44,900 --> 00:42:45,900
goes.

902
00:42:45,900 --> 00:42:46,900
Yeah, he goes for it.

903
00:42:46,900 --> 00:42:49,380
He goes 100 miles an hour.

904
00:42:49,380 --> 00:42:50,380
And if you're there, you're there.

905
00:42:50,380 --> 00:42:51,740
If you're not, I'll figure it out.

906
00:42:51,740 --> 00:42:53,460
Yeah, that's really what it feels like.

907
00:42:53,460 --> 00:42:54,460
It blow me away.

908
00:42:54,460 --> 00:42:55,460
Roosh was number two.

909
00:42:55,460 --> 00:42:58,860
That's what they do in that company.

910
00:42:58,860 --> 00:43:04,900
We don't have a story for a match, we're just going to put a bunch of shit in high spots.

911
00:43:04,900 --> 00:43:10,340
But I'd rather have that than Ricky Starks and Big Bill with just another random tag

912
00:43:10,340 --> 00:43:11,340
team.

913
00:43:11,340 --> 00:43:12,340
Because I would have had no interest in that.

914
00:43:12,340 --> 00:43:13,340
But you know what, too?

915
00:43:13,340 --> 00:43:16,380
I was thinking about after, because we don't know where they're going.

916
00:43:16,380 --> 00:43:20,020
And everything, as much as we know there's a story with it.

917
00:43:20,020 --> 00:43:22,180
Yeah, so look at Big Bill.

918
00:43:22,180 --> 00:43:24,340
When they won, I was like, okay, what?

919
00:43:24,340 --> 00:43:29,020
But then when Jericho and Omega won, I was like, that makes sense.

920
00:43:29,020 --> 00:43:31,460
I don't know when they're going to cash in for their number one contenders.

921
00:43:31,460 --> 00:43:33,460
Let's say they go at Worlds End.

922
00:43:33,460 --> 00:43:39,060
You'd rather have Omega and Jericho wrestle Big Bill and Starks and anybody else.

923
00:43:39,060 --> 00:43:41,540
We don't want to see them against House of Black.

924
00:43:41,540 --> 00:43:43,340
We don't want to see them against FTR.

925
00:43:43,340 --> 00:43:44,340
That's not the story.

926
00:43:44,340 --> 00:43:45,340
That doesn't make sense.

927
00:43:45,340 --> 00:43:49,940
What makes sense is, okay, what are we doing now with elevating, continuing to elevate

928
00:43:49,940 --> 00:43:54,700
Starks and, evidently, Big Bill through Jericho and Omega?

929
00:43:54,700 --> 00:43:57,420
So when I saw that, I was like, all right, you got the pass.

930
00:43:57,420 --> 00:44:00,860
I'm still not invested in Starks and Big Bill as champions.

931
00:44:00,860 --> 00:44:02,900
Two more thrown together tag teams.

932
00:44:02,900 --> 00:44:03,900
Yeah.

933
00:44:03,900 --> 00:44:04,900
That tag team match.

934
00:44:04,900 --> 00:44:08,740
So, I mean, you know, we'll see with that.

935
00:44:08,740 --> 00:44:09,740
Rhonda Rousey.

936
00:44:09,740 --> 00:44:11,460
Can I ask, can I mention one more thing?

937
00:44:11,460 --> 00:44:12,460
Yeah.

938
00:44:12,460 --> 00:44:15,540
Before you go to Rhonda, our Black sister.

939
00:44:15,540 --> 00:44:19,060
The other Blacks, so we have the House of Black.

940
00:44:19,060 --> 00:44:21,260
All the men showed up, came up short.

941
00:44:21,260 --> 00:44:26,580
First off, Buddy, Buddy chats out to Clyde.

942
00:44:26,580 --> 00:44:27,580
She called him Clyde.

943
00:44:27,580 --> 00:44:28,580
Did you hear him repeat that?

944
00:44:28,580 --> 00:44:29,580
His name is Claudio Castagnoli.

945
00:44:29,580 --> 00:44:30,580
Dasha said Clyde.

946
00:44:30,580 --> 00:44:31,580
Like Clyde.

947
00:44:31,580 --> 00:44:32,580
I was like, who?

948
00:44:32,580 --> 00:44:33,580
But you know what it was?

949
00:44:33,580 --> 00:44:41,180
In her mind, she was like, I'm not going to mess up Buddy Matthew's name because I called

950
00:44:41,180 --> 00:44:42,180
him Buddy Murphy before.

951
00:44:42,180 --> 00:44:47,180
So she put all her attention to calling him Buddy Matthews and then called Claudio Clyde.

952
00:44:47,180 --> 00:44:49,700
I'm like, who's Clyde?

953
00:44:49,700 --> 00:44:51,700
Anyway, Clyde.

954
00:44:51,700 --> 00:44:52,700
Clyde.

955
00:44:52,700 --> 00:44:57,980
Point is, all the men came up short of House of Black.

956
00:44:57,980 --> 00:44:59,260
So again, that goes back to me.

957
00:44:59,260 --> 00:45:01,260
Like what are they doing with House of Black?

958
00:45:01,260 --> 00:45:02,500
But I digress.

959
00:45:02,500 --> 00:45:03,500
Go ahead.

960
00:45:03,500 --> 00:45:04,500
Talk about our Black sister.

961
00:45:04,500 --> 00:45:07,100
Well, but when you, but that's the thing about a ladder match.

962
00:45:07,100 --> 00:45:09,380
Gimmick matches in wrestling are used to protect.

963
00:45:09,380 --> 00:45:11,980
That's really what gimmick matches are for.

964
00:45:11,980 --> 00:45:12,980
They didn't take a pin.

965
00:45:12,980 --> 00:45:18,260
So yeah, they didn't take the belt off the rung, off the ladder, but they lose nothing

966
00:45:18,260 --> 00:45:20,740
by not winning it.

967
00:45:20,740 --> 00:45:21,740
Yeah.

968
00:45:21,740 --> 00:45:29,020
I wanted to bring a Rhonda Rousey because news comes out Friday night after collision

969
00:45:29,020 --> 00:45:30,020
and rampage.

970
00:45:30,020 --> 00:45:37,460
And I see her, there's a video online of her coming out on the ring of honor.

971
00:45:37,460 --> 00:45:40,540
And I said, please tell me I'm missing something.

972
00:45:40,540 --> 00:45:41,780
Can you guys explain to me?

973
00:45:41,780 --> 00:45:45,060
Okay, so Tony Khan said on the scrum, she's not under contract anywhere.

974
00:45:45,060 --> 00:45:47,380
She's not in the contract, A-E-W.

975
00:45:47,380 --> 00:45:48,380
He would love to have her back.

976
00:45:48,380 --> 00:45:52,700
And he kind of just told a quick story of, hey, the, the few started an independent show

977
00:45:52,700 --> 00:45:54,020
on Thursday or Wednesday night.

978
00:45:54,020 --> 00:45:56,420
I think it was in the Thursday.

979
00:45:56,420 --> 00:45:59,220
And then they were like, Hey, let's carry over to R08.

980
00:45:59,220 --> 00:46:03,140
So if you want to see it, you know, bye honor club.

981
00:46:03,140 --> 00:46:05,620
Before I get my thoughts, I have to have your guys thoughts.

982
00:46:05,620 --> 00:46:10,740
Cause we, none of us have talked about Rhonda Rousey showing up in R08.

983
00:46:10,740 --> 00:46:11,900
I don't care who goes first.

984
00:46:11,900 --> 00:46:17,620
I'm just excited to hear your guys' thoughts on this whole situation.

985
00:46:17,620 --> 00:46:20,020
I don't know the situation.

986
00:46:20,020 --> 00:46:21,100
I didn't watch the video.

987
00:46:21,100 --> 00:46:22,220
I don't know in what capacity.

988
00:46:22,220 --> 00:46:27,060
I just thought that she was there with her BFF and that was it.

989
00:46:27,060 --> 00:46:31,660
And then when Tony reaffirmed it in the scrum last night, like, no, she's not like down

990
00:46:31,660 --> 00:46:32,660
with us.

991
00:46:32,660 --> 00:46:33,660
She's just, she was just here.

992
00:46:33,660 --> 00:46:35,860
You welcome her back anytime.

993
00:46:35,860 --> 00:46:37,460
I think, I guess this is good.

994
00:46:37,460 --> 00:46:38,860
She's trying to figure out what's out there.

995
00:46:38,860 --> 00:46:41,340
What companies are out there where she will fit in.

996
00:46:41,340 --> 00:46:45,180
Cause once we found out that she was staying a wrestler and she was going indie, Hey, why

997
00:46:45,180 --> 00:46:46,180
not?

998
00:46:46,180 --> 00:46:47,820
I guess this is par for the course to me.

999
00:46:47,820 --> 00:46:48,820
That's all I'll say.

1000
00:46:48,820 --> 00:46:50,420
He's got something cause he's smiling right now.

1001
00:46:50,420 --> 00:46:55,700
And whenever he's smiling and he does the Harlem Shake, you know, he's got something.

1002
00:46:55,700 --> 00:46:56,700
Floor is yours, sir.

1003
00:46:56,700 --> 00:46:57,700
Oh, I see.

1004
00:46:57,700 --> 00:46:58,700
I don't have anything at all.

1005
00:46:58,700 --> 00:46:59,700
I don't care.

1006
00:46:59,700 --> 00:47:01,700
Well, no, that is something.

1007
00:47:01,700 --> 00:47:02,700
That is something.

1008
00:47:02,700 --> 00:47:03,700
You know, like it's on R08, man.

1009
00:47:03,700 --> 00:47:04,700
Like we're not going to be able to see it.

1010
00:47:04,700 --> 00:47:05,700
First of all, I don't know.

1011
00:47:05,700 --> 00:47:10,700
R08, you're not going to be able to see it.

1012
00:47:10,700 --> 00:47:15,140
I'm not paying $10 or whatever it is to go see whatever, whatever, whatever that was.

1013
00:47:15,140 --> 00:47:19,140
Look, I, look, I didn't want to look, I was at, she was at SummerSlam in Detroit.

1014
00:47:19,140 --> 00:47:21,780
I got up in the, went to the bathroom and got something to eat during our match.

1015
00:47:21,780 --> 00:47:24,020
You think I'm going to pay $10 to see her at R08?

1016
00:47:24,020 --> 00:47:25,020
No sir.

1017
00:47:25,020 --> 00:47:26,020
I'm good.

1018
00:47:26,020 --> 00:47:28,700
Hey, but hey, best of luck to you, sister.

1019
00:47:28,700 --> 00:47:31,860
Like I hope you come back and rebound and do something really great that I enjoy.

1020
00:47:31,860 --> 00:47:32,860
I know what's next.

1021
00:47:32,860 --> 00:47:33,860
I know it's coming.

1022
00:47:33,860 --> 00:47:37,220
So, so that's my point of both of what both of you just said.

1023
00:47:37,220 --> 00:47:40,220
What he's saying, I don't even know what you're talking about.

1024
00:47:40,220 --> 00:47:41,220
Right?

1025
00:47:41,220 --> 00:47:42,220
I'm talking about Ronda fucking Rousey.

1026
00:47:42,220 --> 00:47:44,820
He's like, I ain't paying for that.

1027
00:47:44,820 --> 00:47:46,860
I was in attendance and I didn't watch her.

1028
00:47:46,860 --> 00:47:48,700
If I owned R08, I would feel differently.

1029
00:47:48,700 --> 00:47:50,780
R08 is a dead IP right now.

1030
00:47:50,780 --> 00:47:52,220
It is.

1031
00:47:52,220 --> 00:47:58,940
You have the opportunity to use Ronda Rousey and you put her on Ring of Honor?

1032
00:47:58,940 --> 00:48:00,380
Yeah.

1033
00:48:00,380 --> 00:48:01,380
Come on, man.

1034
00:48:01,380 --> 00:48:04,820
That doesn't make sense to me in the slightest at all.

1035
00:48:04,820 --> 00:48:10,140
No, if you have a chance to use her, you use her on your main brand.

1036
00:48:10,140 --> 00:48:11,780
We're real.

1037
00:48:11,780 --> 00:48:14,540
And then if maybe you just say, Hey, I can only have it for a weekend.

1038
00:48:14,540 --> 00:48:15,900
Maybe we don't use her at all then.

1039
00:48:15,900 --> 00:48:21,860
But to use her for the first time on R08, Ronda Rousey and Ring of Honor.

1040
00:48:21,860 --> 00:48:26,580
That is like, that is the equivalent and this is not hyperbole.

1041
00:48:26,580 --> 00:48:35,380
That is the equivalent to having someone like Becky Lynch available for a weekend.

1042
00:48:35,380 --> 00:48:37,700
And you say, you know what I'm going to do?

1043
00:48:37,700 --> 00:48:43,700
I'm a user at a house show instead of using her on TV.

1044
00:48:43,700 --> 00:48:44,980
What logic does that make?

1045
00:48:44,980 --> 00:48:49,340
Oh, I got Logan Paul for the month of April next year.

1046
00:48:49,340 --> 00:48:51,340
No, let's not use them at Mania.

1047
00:48:51,340 --> 00:48:55,940
Let's use them in Indiana the week before Mania at a house show.

1048
00:48:55,940 --> 00:49:00,780
We'll pop a good attendance because the word was the reason why they put her on there was

1049
00:49:00,780 --> 00:49:04,940
to try to get added subscriptions.

1050
00:49:04,940 --> 00:49:08,620
Let's stop worrying about Ring of Honor and let's put all of our hurt.

1051
00:49:08,620 --> 00:49:10,780
And I know we have to, we own it.

1052
00:49:10,780 --> 00:49:12,260
I get it.

1053
00:49:12,260 --> 00:49:16,660
But how about we make Dynamite, Rampage and Collision the biggest, the best shows that

1054
00:49:16,660 --> 00:49:17,660
we can.

1055
00:49:17,660 --> 00:49:22,420
And then through that is where we're going to get our weight to elevate.

1056
00:49:22,420 --> 00:49:24,900
Because if you can't get enough of this, I got this IP over here.

1057
00:49:24,900 --> 00:49:28,660
Because at this point, ROH is nothing more than what it should have been in the first

1058
00:49:28,660 --> 00:49:31,140
place, which is AEW developmental.

1059
00:49:31,140 --> 00:49:34,180
So to have her on there, I thought it was just like, what are we doing, man?

1060
00:49:34,180 --> 00:49:39,220
Because you can never get another first time.

1061
00:49:39,220 --> 00:49:45,340
The first time you saw that woman in that company was on a 15 second video clip.

1062
00:49:45,340 --> 00:49:46,340
That's how people are going to see it.

1063
00:49:46,340 --> 00:49:48,620
Anybody going to pay that $10 to see it, they go and look at that clip.

1064
00:49:48,620 --> 00:49:51,980
Oh shit, she was at ROH.

1065
00:49:51,980 --> 00:49:54,020
Even your major Ronda fans from WWE.

1066
00:49:54,020 --> 00:49:55,420
They ain't my pain.

1067
00:49:55,420 --> 00:49:58,940
They're going to see that and they're not going to think to themselves, oh my God, I

1068
00:49:58,940 --> 00:50:02,300
have to go and figure out what ROH is and then pay $10 to see it.

1069
00:50:02,300 --> 00:50:04,340
They're going to say, she went to what?

1070
00:50:04,340 --> 00:50:08,620
And they're going to keep scrolling.

1071
00:50:08,620 --> 00:50:11,660
I might be the, what do you call it, the vocal minority.

1072
00:50:11,660 --> 00:50:14,660
I think that's the phrase.

1073
00:50:14,660 --> 00:50:20,020
Honestly, you bring Ronda to AEW Dynamite or Collision and I don't think the crowd would

1074
00:50:20,020 --> 00:50:21,020
have accepted her.

1075
00:50:21,020 --> 00:50:22,020
I'll be completely honest with you.

1076
00:50:22,020 --> 00:50:27,740
I think they would have completely booed her as constructed right now.

1077
00:50:27,740 --> 00:50:30,740
Let's say for instance, she stays more time in the indies and the rumors going around

1078
00:50:30,740 --> 00:50:31,740
that she's actually really good.

1079
00:50:31,740 --> 00:50:33,580
She's figuring out who she is.

1080
00:50:33,580 --> 00:50:34,580
That's different.

1081
00:50:34,580 --> 00:50:37,300
But that same time, let's say she just showed up at full gear.

1082
00:50:37,300 --> 00:50:38,300
They would boo her.

1083
00:50:38,300 --> 00:50:39,300
They would boo her.

1084
00:50:39,300 --> 00:50:40,300
It was a market test.

1085
00:50:40,300 --> 00:50:43,300
They wanted to see what kind of interests they could get out of there.

1086
00:50:43,300 --> 00:50:45,460
She already agreed to, hey, I'm an indie wrestler.

1087
00:50:45,460 --> 00:50:46,460
I'm going to start back from the beginning.

1088
00:50:46,460 --> 00:50:47,460
I just added that.

1089
00:50:47,460 --> 00:50:49,500
I don't know if she said that, but she's an indie wrestler.

1090
00:50:49,500 --> 00:50:50,500
So that's my assumption I'm making here.

1091
00:50:50,500 --> 00:50:51,500
I'm going to start from the beginning.

1092
00:50:51,500 --> 00:50:56,580
I think it was a market test and I think that if they did put her on AEW TV, she would not

1093
00:50:56,580 --> 00:50:58,620
have gotten the perception they would want it.

1094
00:50:58,620 --> 00:50:59,620
So maybe not a boo.

1095
00:50:59,620 --> 00:51:05,740
My only pushback, she showed up to taping of Collision as the same audience.

1096
00:51:05,740 --> 00:51:07,940
Hey, you know what?

1097
00:51:07,940 --> 00:51:09,980
I'm with you, Rhodija.

1098
00:51:09,980 --> 00:51:10,980
I'm with you on that 100%.

1099
00:51:10,980 --> 00:51:11,980
They may have booed her.

1100
00:51:11,980 --> 00:51:12,980
Maybe they need to let her boo her.

1101
00:51:12,980 --> 00:51:17,980
But you think about from like, oh, we have a, they announced a signing.

1102
00:51:17,980 --> 00:51:24,180
Like we didn't, we kind of blew past it a little bit, but like Will, it ain't that big

1103
00:51:24,180 --> 00:51:25,180
of a signing.

1104
00:51:25,180 --> 00:51:26,180
Like, right?

1105
00:51:26,180 --> 00:51:27,180
So you think about Ronda Rousey-

1106
00:51:27,180 --> 00:51:28,180
You said it's not?

1107
00:51:28,180 --> 00:51:29,180
No.

1108
00:51:29,180 --> 00:51:32,180
If you think about Ronda Rousey's AEW elite.

1109
00:51:32,180 --> 00:51:34,060
Yeah, let's think about it.

1110
00:51:34,060 --> 00:51:38,300
Take it outside of like the AEW, the fam thing, right?

1111
00:51:38,300 --> 00:51:43,060
If you go ask your neighbors, who's Ronda Rousey or who's Will Ospreay?

1112
00:51:43,060 --> 00:51:44,420
Who are they going to know?

1113
00:51:44,420 --> 00:51:45,780
They're going to know Ronda Rousey.

1114
00:51:45,780 --> 00:51:47,860
They don't know Will.

1115
00:51:47,860 --> 00:51:50,540
We've seen Will thousands of times with AEW TV.

1116
00:51:50,540 --> 00:51:51,780
That's not that big of a sign.

1117
00:51:51,780 --> 00:51:53,780
He's going from part time to full time.

1118
00:51:53,780 --> 00:51:54,780
Great.

1119
00:51:54,780 --> 00:51:55,780
Well, that's a big signing.

1120
00:51:55,780 --> 00:51:57,660
If you get somebody that name, but will it work?

1121
00:51:57,660 --> 00:51:59,700
I mean, it's not working for Edge either.

1122
00:51:59,700 --> 00:52:00,700
So it is what it is.

1123
00:52:00,700 --> 00:52:08,420
I get what you're saying, but that is a, that's a huge signing because WWE wanted Will Ospreay.

1124
00:52:08,420 --> 00:52:12,100
For you to be able to have Will Ospreay available for weekly TV.

1125
00:52:12,100 --> 00:52:14,300
I know what you're saying from a name value perspective.

1126
00:52:14,300 --> 00:52:15,300
Part time to full time.

1127
00:52:15,300 --> 00:52:16,300
Thank you.

1128
00:52:16,300 --> 00:52:17,300
For sure.

1129
00:52:17,300 --> 00:52:18,300
That's a major signing man.

1130
00:52:18,300 --> 00:52:19,300
Part time to full time.

1131
00:52:19,300 --> 00:52:24,300
Instead of seeing two good matches a year, you're going to see four.

1132
00:52:24,300 --> 00:52:25,300
Just four?

1133
00:52:25,300 --> 00:52:26,300
Working weekly?

1134
00:52:26,300 --> 00:52:27,300
Just four matches?

1135
00:52:27,300 --> 00:52:28,300
The steam retirement package?

1136
00:52:28,300 --> 00:52:33,300
And shout out to Darby Allen for telling Los Angeles to wake the hell up and give things

1137
00:52:33,300 --> 00:52:34,300
power.

1138
00:52:34,300 --> 00:52:35,300
Yes.

1139
00:52:35,300 --> 00:52:36,300
Give them his power.

1140
00:52:36,300 --> 00:52:37,300
You know what I'm saying?

1141
00:52:37,300 --> 00:52:38,300
Your farewell tour.

1142
00:52:38,300 --> 00:52:39,300
That is what it needs to be.

1143
00:52:39,300 --> 00:52:44,300
Every place they hit needs to be, this is the last time you're going to see this man live.

1144
00:52:44,300 --> 00:52:45,740
So I absolutely love that.

1145
00:52:45,740 --> 00:52:51,500
So then on Wednesday's show, we need to talk about Survivor Series preview.

1146
00:52:51,500 --> 00:53:00,100
Of course, I also want to discuss Mercedes not being the name last night at Full Gear.

1147
00:53:00,100 --> 00:53:05,760
And then you made a comment about Edge or Adam Copeland and you just threw that in there.

1148
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,260
So we need to talk about that too.

1149
00:53:07,260 --> 00:53:13,180
Of you evidently your thoughts on this is not working with Adam Copeland in AEW.

1150
00:53:13,180 --> 00:53:19,100
So let's do that and of course, whatever we get on Raw and if we get to know what these

1151
00:53:19,100 --> 00:53:22,940
matches are going to be for the AEW tournament, that'd be some good conversation to have.

1152
00:53:22,940 --> 00:53:26,460
Y'all got anything else before we get up out of here on this Sunday?

1153
00:53:26,460 --> 00:53:29,100
Let the Lions win by 12.

1154
00:53:29,100 --> 00:53:31,540
That's what I'm talking about.

1155
00:53:31,540 --> 00:53:36,820
By the time we get back on here on Wednesday, the Lions can be the number one seed.

1156
00:53:36,820 --> 00:53:37,820
Let's go.

1157
00:53:37,820 --> 00:53:40,180
If we win against Chicago and Philly loses.

1158
00:53:40,180 --> 00:53:43,460
We'll be the number one seed in the entire conference.

1159
00:53:43,460 --> 00:53:44,900
Let's go.

1160
00:53:44,900 --> 00:53:45,900
Makes my nipples hard.

1161
00:53:45,900 --> 00:53:46,900
Love it.

1162
00:53:46,900 --> 00:53:47,900
All right.

1163
00:53:47,900 --> 00:53:48,900
Well, we out of here then.

1164
00:53:48,900 --> 00:53:50,860
Thank you guys for listening.

1165
00:53:50,860 --> 00:53:52,820
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1166
00:53:52,820 --> 00:53:55,140
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1167
00:53:55,140 --> 00:53:56,860
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1168
00:53:56,860 --> 00:53:59,220
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1169
00:53:59,220 --> 00:54:02,020
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1170
00:54:02,020 --> 00:54:03,020
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1171
00:54:03,020 --> 00:54:07,700
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1172
00:54:07,700 --> 00:54:10,940
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