1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,080 I do know this is just a wrestling podcast. 2 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:19,200 Ishaan and Rudez are doing their Montez lip thing that he's doing right now. 3 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:20,520 I have a question for you. 4 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,240 Actually, I got two separate questions for y'all. 5 00:00:22,240 --> 00:00:23,240 Non wrestling. 6 00:00:23,240 --> 00:00:27,560 But I'm gonna get these out the way because I do want your guys answers. 7 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:35,520 Ishaan, give me your way too early NBA finals matchup. 8 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,640 I'm going to go to State Warriors. 9 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:39,640 Whoa, okay. 10 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,640 Coming out of the West. 11 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:42,640 Yes, sir. 12 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:43,640 Yes, sir. 13 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,640 Chef Curry, we doing it one more time. 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:46,640 For the bank. 15 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:47,640 For the deep. 16 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:54,800 And then I'm going the Milwaukee Bucks. 17 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,720 I'm getting Dame Time versus Chef. 18 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,760 I want to see Battle of the Point gods in the NBA. 19 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,080 And I want to see if Dre Mod can slow down Giannis. 20 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:05,960 This is what I need. 21 00:01:05,960 --> 00:01:06,960 He can't. 22 00:01:06,960 --> 00:01:07,960 He's a great defender. 23 00:01:07,960 --> 00:01:10,120 One of the better ones in the league. 24 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,400 Give me, I'm going Milwaukee. 25 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:14,840 Absolutely going Milwaukee. 26 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:21,000 I think Giannis and Dame Time is going to be just incredible to watch all season. 27 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:27,160 I'm going to go Phoenix as much as I'm that person that says you can't bet against the 28 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,720 champs until they lose. 29 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:37,440 I would just love to see like Book and Katie against Giannis and Damian Lillard in the 30 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:38,440 finals. 31 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,760 Give me that for seven games. 32 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:41,960 I would be all about it. 33 00:01:41,960 --> 00:01:43,120 Hey, the jury still out. 34 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,040 I got to see that lineup, man. 35 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:49,160 I got to see Bill and Booker playing together in the back court. 36 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,800 I want to see who's defending the other point guard. 37 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,640 I need to see who's running the offense. 38 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,280 I still got, it's a lot of talent, right? 39 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,560 I mean, if you can assemble some talent, they got it, but I need to see it work together 40 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:02,560 first. 41 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,760 Rhodesia, I got a question for you. 42 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,960 And you are the female voice of the podcast. 43 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:12,120 So it would not have been good for me to ask E because then it may come across as we're 44 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:13,800 toxic and all that. 45 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,960 And we are absolutely not that. 46 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:17,760 So what you're not going to ask me the same NBA question? 47 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,720 No, I'm not going to ask you any question. 48 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,560 Why is Jada Pickett such an evil person? 49 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,040 Oh, Lord. 50 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,040 Did something happen that I miss? 51 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,880 Oh, it releases an interview or she didn't release it. 52 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,280 I think it was on Good Morning America. 53 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,960 And she states that her and will have been broken up since 2000 separate team. 54 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,360 I'm sorry, separated, divorced, but not divorced. 55 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,320 They've been living separately. 56 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:45,920 They have been completely separate. 57 00:02:45,920 --> 00:02:49,640 And if you have not seen the video footage, go find the footage. 58 00:02:49,640 --> 00:02:56,080 She has this evil smile on her face that is just like, unless will has done something 59 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:00,920 to her over and over and over and we don't know if he's done that or not. 60 00:03:00,920 --> 00:03:01,920 Correct. 61 00:03:01,920 --> 00:03:06,600 She didn't say it though, but it seems like every chance she gets, she just sticks that 62 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,000 knife at him and digs it deeper and deeper. 63 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:15,080 So if you haven't seen it, I guess I can't, I can't ask you, but that was the first question 64 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:16,720 then I got an answer. 65 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:21,280 Who is winning or who is your way too early NBA finals matchup? 66 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:22,280 Okay. 67 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:26,000 So for sure, Milwaukee's coming out of the East and I was going to say Phoenix, but I 68 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,720 want Devin Booker to come on home to Detroit. 69 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,440 So I will want him to have some issues so he doesn't resign a contract. 70 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,400 I don't know where he's at in his contract there at Phoenix, but I'll go with the Golden 71 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:35,400 State Warriors too. 72 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:40,440 So I'm going to go with Ditto of East side only because I want Devin Booker to come to 73 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:41,440 Detroit. 74 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,000 So you're going to go and say, yep, Golden State in Milwaukee. 75 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,000 Over Denver. 76 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,000 Yeah. 77 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,000 Yeah. 78 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,240 Over, over the hair loaded Los Angeles Lakers. 79 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:52,240 Yeah. 80 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,920 And I was looking at the Lakers only because Matthew loved the Lakers, but he said this 81 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,800 year he is definitely not about to go through that emotional roller coaster. 82 00:03:58,800 --> 00:03:59,800 I said good for him. 83 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:00,800 I said good for you. 84 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:01,800 Game one. 85 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,480 He's one of those fans. 86 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:08,800 He is like me with the Lions or whoever he says he ain't in until tip off happens and 87 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:13,800 he's sitting there screaming and hollering and then he's depressed when they lose. 88 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:20,480 So real quick then, and this is just for us only Matt, who's worse, Matthew or Chris? 89 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,000 Oh, Chris for sure. 90 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:31,480 The world is every time somebody, anything goes wrong in the game, the world completely 91 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,640 in foil, but that's what we, that's what we do. 92 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:35,640 Right? 93 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:36,640 That is why we're fans. 94 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:43,040 We do what we do and we watch it when we watch and shout out to all the only AW fans. 95 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,620 You guys are losers. 96 00:04:44,620 --> 00:04:50,280 You guys suck because you got blown out by NXT by what is it? 97 00:04:50,280 --> 00:04:51,920 300,000 viewers. 98 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,880 I think it was boy. 99 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,440 We'll get to that episode 73. 100 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,080 This is TFW podcast. 101 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,420 That's freaking wrestling. 102 00:05:01,420 --> 00:05:04,080 The usual suspects are all up in here right now. 103 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:05,200 You've heard from us already. 104 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:06,200 I am Matt. 105 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:07,200 We have Eshaan. 106 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:12,520 We have Rhodesia and that is of course where I want to start and we are going to start 107 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:17,160 and I'm sure the majority of this podcast is going to be really about the Tuesday night 108 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,560 wars and we don't even have to, it's up to you guys. 109 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:26,560 Cause we, we text a little bit during NXT just about kind of the show and things of 110 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:32,800 that nature, but we haven't talked at all around which show we like better, why, anything 111 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:33,800 like that. 112 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:38,780 So we are getting raw information and details in front of the world right now. 113 00:05:38,780 --> 00:05:42,280 So however you guys want to do it, we can do it. 114 00:05:42,280 --> 00:05:47,000 I want to, for me personally, I kind of want to take a different approach to today's show 115 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:54,880 because seeing both of those shows back to back kind of really opened my eyes to a couple 116 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,400 of things that I want to get your guys thoughts on and we can have some good discussion on 117 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,080 it. 118 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,360 Let's start with the first one. 119 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:04,360 We talked about the Raidens already. 120 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,080 We're not going to spend a lot of time on the Raidens. 121 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:07,800 Raidens are what they are. 122 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,320 But shout out to NXT. 123 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:18,320 We know they loaded that show up with legends, with main roster talent and it worked. 124 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,320 They received, like I said, I think it was what? 125 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,840 921,000 viewers for NXT. 126 00:06:23,840 --> 00:06:29,600 AW on a separate night did 609,000 viewers. 127 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,520 NXT won the demo and the views. 128 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:36,400 Is there anything you guys want to talk about with the Raidens before we kind of just even 129 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:41,200 put that to the side and get into our thoughts on both shows and what we watched and all 130 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:42,200 that kind of stuff? 131 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:43,200 Murder she rode. 132 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:44,200 Murder she rode. 133 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,720 You know, I'm actually kind of surprised. 134 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:51,440 I thought about it right before I saw the Raidens. 135 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:52,440 I'm like, you know what? 136 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,640 Why can't NXT hit that mill? 137 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:01,220 And I thought to myself, would it be disappointing that they didn't considering everybody they 138 00:07:01,220 --> 00:07:07,480 brought to the show, the Undertaker bail, right? 139 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:13,520 Like, you know, man, would it be kind of a loss if they didn't hit a mill? 140 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,020 But it got close and it haven't gotten as close in a while. 141 00:07:16,020 --> 00:07:17,480 So definitely win. 142 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:22,000 But yeah, we knew that slaughter was coming. 143 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,500 Nothing else to add to that. 144 00:07:23,500 --> 00:07:24,560 It was not a surprise. 145 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:31,080 I actually took their approach that I'm surprised they still drew in 600,000 on a night that 146 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:32,880 they're usually not on. 147 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,840 And I know, man, I you talk, you and I talked for a hot second about the difference between 148 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,040 it that NXT still blew him out the water. 149 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:43,440 But still for me, I was surprised that means they got two third of their normal, a little 150 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,520 bit more than two third of their normal viewership on a different day. 151 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,920 And I think that really, really does matter. 152 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,320 But there's really no point in belaboring this topic. 153 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,480 I think everyone knew that this would happen, right? 154 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,720 As far as as far as ratings. 155 00:07:55,720 --> 00:08:00,760 No, I think some of your AEW fans did not see that. 156 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:06,200 And if I think I said it a week ago, if it was on Wednesday, you can probably flip those 157 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:07,200 numbers around. 158 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,120 And AEW will win because it's their normal time slot. 159 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,680 You're always gonna lose something when you go on a different day. 160 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:19,920 But the way they loaded that show up, I think NXT, WWE. 161 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:27,760 It was funny too, because I put up a poll on X a couple hours before the show started. 162 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,740 I just said, what show are you watching? 163 00:08:30,740 --> 00:08:35,560 And I'll be damned if these results didn't almost mirror the ratings. 164 00:08:35,560 --> 00:08:36,560 So I gave four options. 165 00:08:36,560 --> 00:08:44,680 I said NXT only, AEW only, NXT first, and then AEW on DVR or AEW first, then NXT on 166 00:08:44,680 --> 00:08:45,680 DVR. 167 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:51,000 The number one answer by far was NXT only at 45%. 168 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:56,820 Second answer was NXT first, then AEW on DVR at 25%. 169 00:08:56,820 --> 00:09:04,040 So by that math, 70% of people that took this poll was watching NXT somehow some way Tuesday 170 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:05,040 night. 171 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,440 So that leaves you with only 30%. 172 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,480 The next answer was AEW only was at 18%. 173 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:15,040 And then AEW first and NXT on DVR was 12%. 174 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:20,200 If you break that down and look at the ratings, that's almost a carbon copy of those results. 175 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:29,640 So NXT, either through our Twitter follower base, is the hot new hotness right now. 176 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,200 This would have not happened a year ago. 177 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,400 Damn sure it wouldn't happen two years ago. 178 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:42,360 Let me ask you, why did you decide to watch NXT first? 179 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:46,200 Because I was seeing something different on NXT, right? 180 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:47,200 It was something different. 181 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:48,200 They were putting on a spectacle. 182 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:54,280 You saw you had John Cena for the first time ever going on NXT. 183 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,320 I didn't even hear the sneak peek for Undertaker. 184 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:58,840 That was a total surprise for me. 185 00:09:58,840 --> 00:09:59,840 I missed that. 186 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,920 Paul Heyman is going down there. 187 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,760 Cody Rhodes is making an announcement. 188 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,400 And I'm invested in a lot of the characters and storylines and I want to see how they 189 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,000 go to interact with that main roster talent. 190 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:16,280 I was interested because I was interested in the characters and I was interested in 191 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,800 the surprise guests. 192 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:23,920 I knew on AEW I was going to get more of the same, which is really great matches. 193 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:24,920 I knew that. 194 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,840 But I wasn't getting anything out of the ordinary, anything different that would make me say, 195 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,320 hey, you know what? 196 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:39,920 Let me watch this instead of seeing something different and new and actually hotter. 197 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,000 I think there was a comment, I don't know if it's true or not, but you know, your boy 198 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,840 Uncle Dave, you know how much Matt loves Dave Meltzer. 199 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:48,560 That's his road dog. 200 00:10:48,560 --> 00:10:49,560 He loves him. 201 00:10:49,560 --> 00:10:56,000 And he said that, you know, and it's funny because, you know, our fans, we always say 202 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,680 someone's a shill or someone's on the payroll and, you know, Dave's supposed to be on the 203 00:10:59,680 --> 00:11:06,840 AEW payroll and he came out and said that, you know, AEW is cold and that Edge wasn't 204 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,160 seeing a pump for them. 205 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:11,960 And I think it's some truth to that. 206 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:16,120 I just don't think that, I don't want to say it's cold right now, but it's definitely not 207 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,000 a hot product like WWE. 208 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:23,640 And I think that NXT itself is what I've been talking to you guys about it for, you know, 209 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:24,640 weeks now. 210 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,060 There's a lot of synergy with that show. 211 00:11:28,060 --> 00:11:31,240 They're putting on some really great TV right now. 212 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:32,240 They are. 213 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:38,000 And I mean, AEW is, their ticket sales are ice cold. 214 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,200 And I think part of that is they need to change their ticket strategy. 215 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:47,240 They do in terms of pricing, in terms of how they promote. 216 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,900 But I'll also, there's a couple of things I think they can do differently for their 217 00:11:51,900 --> 00:11:52,900 TV product too. 218 00:11:52,900 --> 00:11:57,960 And we will absolutely get to that in this discussion, just between the similarities 219 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:03,860 or the complete contrast of NXT slash WWE TV and AEW television. 220 00:12:03,860 --> 00:12:05,000 It is an alternative. 221 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,760 So we don't want it to be a carbon copy. 222 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,720 Nobody can outdo WWE doing WWE. 223 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:16,360 It's like nobody can outdo NJPW more than NJPW. 224 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:22,600 But it's interesting with AEW, like what is their thing outside of just great wrestling? 225 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:23,840 And that's massive. 226 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:24,840 That's huge. 227 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,400 Because you know, you're going to tune in for a wrestling product and you get great 228 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:28,400 wrestling. 229 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,760 That may be all you need or want, but I think numbers are showing a little bit differently, 230 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,920 particularly the ticket sales. 231 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,960 It was another night last night that they didn't hit 4,000. 232 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:43,920 And I think they were in that same building previously and they had higher attendance 233 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,960 than Adam Copeland's first match. 234 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:52,600 Like that tells you a little something is off right now with just the excitement level. 235 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,680 And we'll get to something else too that I noticed. 236 00:12:55,680 --> 00:13:02,400 E, you put it in the group text yesterday, just saying, hey, would you rather have a 237 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:08,920 small arena or a small building when the wrestling with a small lively crowd or a big building 238 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,640 with a smaller lively crowd? 239 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:16,120 And that is what we saw on both shows yesterday, that exact situation. 240 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:22,600 And boy, was there a stark contrast was it did not feel like three years ago, but in 241 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:27,600 reverse, every single thing that happened, everybody that came out, blow the roof off 242 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,360 the joint. 243 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:34,360 I'm seeing more and more folks like not even cheering on their phones, texting and yeah, 244 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,760 they bought a ticket to be there, but it's like, damn, where is the investment at? 245 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,000 It really, and that goes back to being hot. 246 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:46,560 WB's crowds have been hot for months, but it's interesting when you watch and you see, 247 00:13:46,560 --> 00:13:55,000 like, damn, it just flipped where now WB's crowd is hot and they're engaged and AW, they're 248 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,560 there, but they're not there the way they used to. 249 00:13:57,560 --> 00:13:59,040 So where these are going to go. 250 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,960 Hey, Rodisha, right before you go, I know your wheel is like, we got to get you guys, 251 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,760 you're not watching this on YouTube, you got to watch this on YouTube so you can see like 252 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:11,080 the wheel is turning in Rodisha so she can see her thinking about all the things that 253 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,160 she's hearing and putting it together in her head. 254 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:14,800 You got to watch it. 255 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:19,000 But let me ask you a question as you go into your topics and statements. 256 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:26,720 Do you think AW has lost a big part of the audience or maybe a part of the audience? 257 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,760 Is that directed to me or Matt? 258 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:29,760 Or Aja? 259 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,760 No, I don't think so. 260 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:36,720 I think that the majority of AW fans are still AW fans. 261 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:41,680 The better question in my mind will probably be how many of AW fans were also like your 262 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:47,840 NXT fans that kind of now that we have something that was on the main stage, I can get behind. 263 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:52,000 So how many of those people were still WWE fans in essence? 264 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,800 And now we are here where we have H doing something really well, but we really loved 265 00:14:55,800 --> 00:15:01,600 NXT back in the black and gold days kind of happening again on main event two as well 266 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,000 on Raw and SmackDown. 267 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:08,240 So as far as the questions that you asked me and Nisha I would say my brains was turning 268 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,800 or my wheels was turning because I was a little confused on what you said about how small crowd 269 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,000 or loud crowd, big building, small crowd, small building. 270 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,000 I was a little confused there, but I get it now. 271 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:26,720 For NXT and AEW, I knew I was going to watch NXT first. 272 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,320 So I think for me, again, I guess this is elephant in the room, which show did we like 273 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:31,320 better? 274 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:35,200 I don't know if I should say that now or later, but I knew I was gonna watch NXT first. 275 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:40,320 Now I will say also watching NXT first, I felt bad not watching Dynamite first. 276 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:48,580 I think WWE by no stretch of imagination, they know how to build excitement for a show. 277 00:15:48,580 --> 00:15:52,400 We got to see it on Raw and SmackDown for weeks about them or for a couple of weeks 278 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,220 of them coming down to NXT. 279 00:15:54,220 --> 00:15:55,320 They know how to do that. 280 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:56,320 They do that. 281 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:57,320 They're the machine. 282 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:58,320 They do that better than anybody. 283 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,520 So for me, I think all the excitement was over there on NXT. 284 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:02,520 What else you suggest? 285 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:07,160 Is that why you wanted to watch NXT first or was there another reason why? 286 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:12,600 Well, the more practical reason is that because we were watching TV on the same television 287 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:16,520 and you were watching NXT first and we were in the same room together. 288 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,360 And then plus us in our group chat, we were all watching NXT. 289 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,280 I felt a little bit weird watching AEW first in a whole different room that I really don't 290 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:28,220 know how to operate the television and then trying to go back and forth. 291 00:16:28,220 --> 00:16:30,360 But again, they still built excitement. 292 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,280 My favorite wrestler of all times, Undertaker was gonna be on there. 293 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:37,840 So I couldn't also turn my back on seeing an Undertaker, however I would get him. 294 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,540 So WWE, they know how to build excitement. 295 00:16:41,540 --> 00:16:42,540 They do. 296 00:16:42,540 --> 00:16:47,520 And then our beef under vents right before the H-Days because you have all these great 297 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:51,540 people, all this great talent that we've seen once before. 298 00:16:51,540 --> 00:16:54,760 People get behind and rally behind and then you bring them up to main roster, they kind 299 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,880 of just disintegrate. 300 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,720 So that is purely no reason why. 301 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,840 And then again, it could be something with the colors. 302 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,120 It could be something with the excitement there. 303 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:09,320 But I don't wanna shoot the shot first and talk about or jump ahead and say why I like 304 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:13,680 AEW a lot to Dynamite last night, but do we wanna go there now? 305 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,880 I don't know, I don't wanna mess up your flow of the show. 306 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,840 Well, I had a couple other questions for you guys. 307 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,760 But you take it, that's it, take it wherever you wanna take it. 308 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:28,040 No, no, cuz I don't wanna- I will say that I believe that from when I talked about on 309 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,080 our Sunday show came to fruition. 310 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:39,280 NXT was the better show in the sense of excitement, the popping circumstances, the feeling good 311 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:44,480 but the matches, I was more invested in AEW Dynamite. 312 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:52,240 I felt like on a, oh my god, all these acronyms, WWE, I felt like it didn't really advance 313 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:53,240 storylines. 314 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,960 Now I would say that we did get an announcement of the men's tournament. 315 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:01,160 We got an announcement of the Dusty Rhodes Classic coming back and I think we had a couple 316 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,260 of matches for next week. 317 00:18:03,260 --> 00:18:05,040 But it was kind of like, it felt like a gimmick match. 318 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:09,160 It was like a crown jewel type of PLE for me. 319 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:10,160 So nothing really happened. 320 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,120 There was really no true investment to me. 321 00:18:12,120 --> 00:18:16,560 And quite frankly, I thought the Cody announcements felt really flat, like very flat. 322 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,360 I don't know if I'm the only one who felt that way. 323 00:18:18,360 --> 00:18:21,880 They were very underwhelming for me for the announcements that Cody made. 324 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:29,760 On Dynamite, hell, I think I saw probably one of my favorite matches between Jay White 325 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:30,760 and Heyman Page. 326 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,760 They smoked it. 327 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,440 On just regular Dynamite. 328 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:41,440 So like I said, I thought match by match that Dynamite would be better and NXT would just 329 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:42,920 be an overall better show, which they are. 330 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:44,100 They're polished. 331 00:18:44,100 --> 00:18:45,720 Their production is incredible. 332 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,720 Second to none. 333 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:54,560 I always find it interesting when people are comparing NXT and AEW brand because NXT is 334 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,040 what a developmental brand. 335 00:18:56,040 --> 00:19:00,640 So you got these, you got Lola Vice and Danny, what's her name? 336 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:01,640 Palmer. 337 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:02,640 Palmer. 338 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:03,640 Who killed, they killed him. 339 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:09,640 You got them wrestling against like season 10 year versus season 10 year veterans. 340 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:17,840 I mean, it's just very, very interesting that we compare the matches the same way. 341 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:23,040 Not talking about you particularly, Radeeja, but just in the wrestle fandom, right? 342 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,600 This is a developmental show. 343 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,360 But I don't think we probably do. 344 00:19:27,360 --> 00:19:32,600 I think we are now because the playing field has been much more level. 345 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,640 Becky's been down there for weeks before that. 346 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:39,840 I mean, we know they've been doing take a couple of main roster talent on NXT and have 347 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,440 them go down for a little bit. 348 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:46,440 But in this week's show in particular, they loaded that show up. 349 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,320 Hell, they brought in LA Knight to be a guest referee. 350 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:55,560 Anybody that was hot outside of Jey Uso, I mean, we can name a few. 351 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,840 They basically handpicked anyone who they know can really draw. 352 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,160 Raiden said, okay, we gotta get you on this show somehow, some way. 353 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:06,080 No, not just the talent, like Cody being there, LA Knight being there. 354 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:12,920 I'm talking about, it's Asuka versus Roxanne, right? 355 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,800 Jay White versus Hangman. 356 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,660 You know what I mean? 357 00:20:16,660 --> 00:20:23,400 Those are two seasoned, Roxanne is still up and comer. 358 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:31,160 You got the main roster talent having matches with quote unquote development talent, right? 359 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:35,160 It's not LA Knight versus Cody. 360 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:40,760 It's not John Cena versus, what's another big name, whoever. 361 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:46,000 It's them working somebody that's a developmental talent. 362 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,960 And then that developmental talent rising to the occasion and making the good match. 363 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,540 That's what I'm talking about. 364 00:20:51,540 --> 00:20:53,680 This is AEW's best is the best. 365 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:54,680 This is NXT. 366 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,880 This ain't WWE's best is the best at going against each other for two hours. 367 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:04,760 No, this is like their main roster's talent giving a rub to younger wrestlers. 368 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,360 And we're seeing them flourish on television. 369 00:21:06,360 --> 00:21:07,360 That's what I'm talking about. 370 00:21:07,360 --> 00:21:11,080 This is AEW through their best is the best in these matches. 371 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:15,520 They damn near had another pay-per-view like in two hours on Tuesday night. 372 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:16,520 That's what I'm saying. 373 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:21,360 I always went into AEW knowing that they were gonna have a better match for match and that 374 00:21:21,360 --> 00:21:27,160 NXT was gonna be more of a polished production, cuz that's all it really was. 375 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:33,760 And we're getting into, I think that if, cuz I remember we were talking in chat, there's 376 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,220 a lot of storyline advancement. 377 00:21:35,220 --> 00:21:39,120 If you actually watch the show to actually know what's going on, right? 378 00:21:39,120 --> 00:21:40,520 The chase you skit. 379 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,680 That wasn't just a skit. 380 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,200 That was a storyline advancement. 381 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,160 But Dusty Classic, I mean, I loved this classic back in the day. 382 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,440 I loved it back when Dusty had it. 383 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:52,440 I loved it. 384 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,040 That's always been a big thing. 385 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:58,440 So there's a lot of little things that when I showed they kind of, but this is what I 386 00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:59,440 asked. 387 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:00,600 This is what I asked Matt last night. 388 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,800 And I don't know if I just wasn't paying attention or if he just did answer me, but haven't we? 389 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:05,800 Okay. 390 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,520 Haven't we've had the Dusty Classics multiple times? 391 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:09,520 Not since Cody's been there. 392 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:10,520 Yeah. 393 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:11,520 Okay. 394 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,260 Cody's been there for a year plus and then get rid of that for a little while though. 395 00:22:15,260 --> 00:22:19,000 So we go down to NXT for the first time ever and announce a thing that was named after 396 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,000 his dad. 397 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,960 That was a really cool moment that they brought it back. 398 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,160 And the Dusty Classics were cool. 399 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,600 I asked you the last one I didn't necessarily like. 400 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:27,600 This is when they, you know. 401 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:28,600 I mean, that was 2.0. 402 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:29,600 It wasn't enough. 403 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:30,600 What was it 2.0? 404 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,600 I think it was before that though, wasn't it? 405 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:34,600 There was one before 2.0. 406 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:35,600 I don't think so, man. 407 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:40,600 Like I just, I just had to watch NXT from my brain. 408 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:41,600 I'm just happy to be back. 409 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,520 I was trying to find my NXT shirt. 410 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:44,520 I was going to wear that. 411 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,520 But I have a few of them. 412 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:48,520 Takeover shirts. 413 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,520 No, I found some takeover shirts. 414 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,720 The show was that we went to, but I was just trying to find just the regular black and 415 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:53,840 gold NXT. 416 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:59,520 So E, who won the night for you then? 417 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,080 Or yeah, because Rhodesia kind of gave her answer there, right? 418 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:07,480 It was kind of like a 50-50 type answer, but I understand completely what she means by 419 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:08,480 that. 420 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,040 What about you? 421 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,520 It was, it's NXT. 422 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,400 I think it's another brand that is flourishing, right? 423 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:21,440 I think that NXT is now, we have so much great wrestling to watch right now. 424 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,760 I don't think it's a show that you can say, ah, you know, I can skip that show this week. 425 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:29,320 I think that's, it's become a show that you got to pay attention to. 426 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,960 Like at some, maybe if you're not watching on Tuesday, you got to watch it on Thursday 427 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,300 or watch it on, so you got to catch it. 428 00:23:35,300 --> 00:23:38,480 Because I think that that show has become a much watched television, like the quality 429 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,560 of the show and the presentation. 430 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:45,840 That's why I asked you that question, Matt, about the audience, because I know you don't 431 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:50,640 like them small studio crowds, but like they brought it last night. 432 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,960 Like, the energy was really, really, really great. 433 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,240 And one of the things we noticed with Collision and some of the Dynamite shows is that because 434 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:05,440 of the attendance, it doesn't always come across well on television. 435 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:10,800 So like, I think in that instance last night, that's when that small engaged audience really, 436 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:11,800 really worked well. 437 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,600 But just to go back to it, I think NXT won just to make it another show. 438 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:16,960 Because Dynamite is a good show. 439 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,320 Like if you would love wrestling, you're going to get good matches. 440 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:20,720 I mean, they had a loaded card. 441 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,120 It was awesome. 442 00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:30,560 But NXT has been that one that's, you know, 2.0 and Vince got rid of all Triple H's guys, 443 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,360 brought up all of this development talent. 444 00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:34,520 People have never been on TV. 445 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,960 You know, he brought Brian Breaker on the national television and the dude I think he 446 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,640 will be in the business for like two months or something like that. 447 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:42,640 Right? 448 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,740 So we've gone through a lot of growing pains with NXT. 449 00:24:45,740 --> 00:24:47,840 So it's arrived. 450 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:53,440 And honestly, I think the company's investment in that brand being successful with Triple 451 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,280 H, I don't think that's going anywhere anytime soon. 452 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:02,400 Yeah, we know, you know, that there's some thought that they're really putting this push 453 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:07,080 behind NXT just to get higher rights deals for the contract that comes up next year. 454 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,840 I don't give a damn why. 455 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,200 It's turning out to be fantastic television. 456 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,440 And one and a half million people watched wrestling last night. 457 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:17,560 Let's give a round of applause for that. 458 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,200 Let's give it like, let's give it up for that. 459 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:25,480 You know, when you think about whatever you're into, whatever you are into, you got it on 460 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:26,480 Tuesday night. 461 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,760 You know, for me, it reminded me for sure of the Monday Night Wars. 462 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,520 I didn't do any flipping though. 463 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,920 I, you know, of course I watched NXT first and I immediately watched AEW after. 464 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:43,160 And a lot of times what I'll do is I'll need like a buffer because there's some times where 465 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,920 I have watched two separate shows on the same night. 466 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:46,920 Hell, we just did it. 467 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:51,360 I just did it Saturday with Collision and... 468 00:25:51,360 --> 00:25:52,360 Payback 2. 469 00:25:52,360 --> 00:25:53,360 Payback 2. 470 00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:58,360 We watched Fastlane and I gave myself like a 45 minute buffer. 471 00:25:58,360 --> 00:25:59,360 I think it was like an hour. 472 00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:01,560 It was like a cleanser for me, a pallet cleanser. 473 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:02,920 I was like, okay, now let me watch Collision. 474 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,720 Because if I was to watch it immediately after, you can only watch so much wrestling and then 475 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,800 see it for the excitement and the engagement that you need to see it for, especially when 476 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,000 you're talking about two totally different brands. 477 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,960 You lose something on that second show. 478 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,560 So I didn't need to do that last night because in NXT it's only two hours. 479 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:20,820 It flew by. 480 00:26:20,820 --> 00:26:21,820 It felt like... 481 00:26:21,820 --> 00:26:22,820 Yeah, it did fly by. 482 00:26:22,820 --> 00:26:25,720 Yeah, I was able to really enjoy AEW right after that. 483 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:30,180 I think that, I mean, for me, Ridiz, you kind of took my answer so I'm not going to go over 484 00:26:30,180 --> 00:26:32,400 it again. 485 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:37,880 For those two hours, NXT had a hell of an exciting show. 486 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,760 I probably enjoyed... 487 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,800 I have a problem saying that because I don't know. 488 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:49,700 But I would say I probably enjoyed NXT more in those two hours because of the newness 489 00:26:49,700 --> 00:26:55,200 factor of seeing Cena down there, seeing Heyman down there, seeing those interactions. 490 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,400 That's the kind of stuff that I really enjoy to see. 491 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,400 Just like to see Heyman and Rock's daughter. 492 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:01,400 Are you kidding me? 493 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:02,400 How cool was that? 494 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,320 It was like a 10 second shoot, but it was like, damn, that's great. 495 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:06,320 That's awesome. 496 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,320 He's trying to recruit her to the bloodline. 497 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,040 That's the way to maximize your time. 498 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,880 Or when they were shaking Asuka's hand. 499 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,400 To me, because I'm a huge Asuka fan, that had me pop. 500 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,400 It was so long. 501 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:23,080 And I loved it because it was just set up for Tiffany to be like, get out of here. 502 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,520 So I really enjoyed that. 503 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:32,160 I think to Radeeja's point, if you look at the legends that they brought in, there's 504 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,960 nothing about them next week. 505 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:35,960 Cody's gone. 506 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:36,960 He's not coming back. 507 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:37,960 Cena's gone. 508 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:38,960 He's not coming back. 509 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:39,960 Taker's gone. 510 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:40,960 He's not coming back. 511 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:41,960 Heyman's gone. 512 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:42,960 He's not coming back. 513 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:43,960 Asuka's gone. 514 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:44,960 She's not coming back. 515 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:50,160 So yes, E to your point, they advanced Chase U. They advanced Trick and Mello in a really 516 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,240 cool way. 517 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,680 Real small advancement, but talking to Cena, that's their advancement. 518 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,680 So yeah, they moved things along for NXT. 519 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:02,440 But for the people they brought in for that particular show, it was just in a capsule. 520 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,160 They're not gonna be on there next week or in two weeks from now. 521 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:13,680 Where AEW, I thought they really maximized their day because outside of the great matches, 522 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:22,280 Swerven, Brian Killed, to your point Radeeja, Jay White and Hangman Killed, you had two 523 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:28,480 title changes, both to help further the company and the storylines. 524 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,240 We knew Phoenix wasn't supposed to win the title in the first place. 525 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,240 So all right, put it back on Orange Cassidy. 526 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:40,320 And how do you guys take Orange Cassidy's demeanor after he won the belt? 527 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,720 Well, I actually didn't realize what I saw. 528 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:49,560 I heard that he won and it took a minute for me to register, like, oh shoot, well, okay. 529 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:50,840 So what was the point of him dropping it? 530 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,340 So I don't even know how to answer your question because I was just so in the moment of what 531 00:28:54,340 --> 00:28:55,340 just happened here. 532 00:28:55,340 --> 00:28:57,920 I actually fell asleep right before that match. 533 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:58,920 Damn it. 534 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,360 And I watched the show. 535 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:02,560 I forgot about that match. 536 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:09,360 So I actually, I think I woke up at a certain point and that had already passed. 537 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:14,240 So I assumed what I woke up watching was where I need to finish. 538 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,600 So I went back to that one. 539 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,040 So go back and watch it. 540 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,720 He wins. 541 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,200 He doesn't crack a smile. 542 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,240 He has like this kind of like this obsessed look of the belt. 543 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:26,680 So they hand him the belt and he's just looking at it. 544 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:32,560 He walks out the ring, best friends are out there to congratulate him, hooks out there, 545 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,000 and he kind of like dapped him up a little bit and that was it. 546 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,200 He didn't, it was, it was, I was like, damn, is he going hill? 547 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,560 Or is, is he, is he sad that he won it? 548 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,600 Cause he's like, damn, I got to go through what I went through. 549 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:44,600 It's kind of hard to tell. 550 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:45,600 It's kind of hard to tell. 551 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:46,600 But there's something there. 552 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,240 Like there is significantly something there. 553 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:57,160 So you had that, you had the Oscar, Oscar nominated cinema presentation of Tony Storm 554 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,160 Silent. 555 00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,160 Come on. 556 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,280 Arguably of anybody in wrestling right now. 557 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:02,600 Wait a minute though. 558 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,120 Like the only thing, did they, did they replay that? 559 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,680 Because there were two acts. 560 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:07,840 It was in the commercial. 561 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,840 It was during, but it was a silent presentation. 562 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,880 It was a silent movie. 563 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:12,880 So how awesome was that? 564 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,240 It was done on purpose during the commercial because there was no volume to it. 565 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,000 So I was so mad. 566 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,000 Yeah. 567 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,760 Cause at first I'm like, no, y'all just didn't put a commercial while she's doing it. 568 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:23,760 We were mad at first. 569 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:24,760 It didn't say it was a silent. 570 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:25,760 During timeless? 571 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:26,760 Yeah. 572 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,480 Like that was really, really cool. 573 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,480 I was, I was Tony count's phone number. 574 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,240 I knew I had it somewhere. 575 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,240 I'm like, I got it. 576 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,240 You said it on Twitter, man. 577 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:35,240 He's very active on Twitter. 578 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,240 He'll respond. 579 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,240 He'll respond. 580 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,600 He was like, he's been on one. 581 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,680 Anybody can get it. 582 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:47,680 And my favorite, my favorite storyline outside the bloodline, but about prior to two months 583 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:54,880 ago, um, come on, Adam Cole, he's holding off his surgery to still cut the grass and 584 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:55,880 Roger Strong. 585 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:56,880 Like, come on. 586 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:05,120 Like how classic is this right now? 587 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:10,080 But yes, I know I do think that AEW did more to get you to want to watch next week. 588 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:15,640 So, but like I said, man, it was everybody won last night. 589 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:16,640 Everybody won. 590 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,240 I do, I do have a question for you guys. 591 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,440 And I kind of said my piece and I'll kind of just regurgitate it here when we were texting 592 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,000 during NXT. 593 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,000 What did you see? 594 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:35,080 What stood out on both shows outside of one is in a smaller arena and not. 595 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:42,920 From a TV product perspective, did anything come out and like seeing that you watched 596 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:48,240 them immediately after each other, did, was there anything that you saw and you were like, 597 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,880 Oh man, I didn't realize they heavily lean into that. 598 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,520 Or man, I didn't realize they do that on this show as much as they don't do it on this 599 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:56,520 show. 600 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:02,080 That's a fantastic question. 601 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,600 In Dynamite, I was a bit fatigued watching it last night because we had just finished 602 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,000 watching NXT. 603 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:16,880 So that's just what I liked was, and this is about to sound like I'm talking in circles. 604 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,980 The show started off on AEW with Christian being in the production truck. 605 00:32:20,980 --> 00:32:23,360 That was very like WWE ish to me. 606 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,280 I don't know if I'm the only one who felt that way, but evidently it works. 607 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,560 It gets that excitement going on NXT. 608 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,080 It's back down to like, it's okay to be quirky. 609 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,600 It's okay to be silly kind of, I don't want to say caricature yourself, but it's okay 610 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:43,360 to be kind of a little over the top with some of the performances I should say as far as 611 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,560 the talking on the mic and stuff. 612 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:47,560 I don't know. 613 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:48,560 That's a very, very hard question. 614 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:49,560 I think that's probably where I'll just land it. 615 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,280 I'll just say that NXT allows you, which you've mentioned before, allows you to be a little 616 00:32:53,280 --> 00:33:00,840 bit more jovial and it's okay where AEW you really can't be jovial because there's a lot 617 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,480 of these indie wrestlers who have something to prove with a chip on their shoulder. 618 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,760 For me it was the production. 619 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:12,800 I thought NXT did a great job on their developmental brand with their production. 620 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,120 That yellow was just popping. 621 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:21,240 The way they shot the crowd made it seem very intimate and lively. 622 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:27,760 The video packages, the overall structure of the show, the flow of it. 623 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:28,760 It was just amazing. 624 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:41,040 It seemed very professional, very polished, but NXT reminded me a lot of college football. 625 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:50,120 It seems like you know it's young people, but it's very polished behind the scenes and 626 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,880 how they present that show because it just flowed. 627 00:33:52,880 --> 00:34:01,160 Then when I squished off and watched Dynamite, it's almost like the resolution dropped on 628 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,160 my TV to me. 629 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,920 I see what you mean by that. 630 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,840 The colors seem a little flatter. 631 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:16,360 The way it's shot, that was the biggest thing that I noticed for me, which is the production. 632 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,720 It was a big drop off in the production to me. 633 00:34:19,720 --> 00:34:27,240 It kind of reminded me of back in the day when I used to watch WWF and WCW. 634 00:34:27,240 --> 00:34:34,320 WCW, their production was bad, but it didn't look as good as WWF did back in the day. 635 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:35,320 That's the vibe I kind of had. 636 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:40,160 I felt like I was watching back in the Monday Night Wars and it's Monday Night Show and 637 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:41,160 Raw. 638 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,240 But didn't y'all say that that's kind of what Tony's MO has been? 639 00:34:45,240 --> 00:34:49,440 He's always wanted to be the new improved WCW, just down to how collision looks. 640 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,200 Even some of the logos is really WCW. 641 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,320 A lot of it is WCW inspired, which I'm good with. 642 00:34:55,320 --> 00:35:01,120 Being on Turner, slam dunk, easy to do that. 643 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:06,880 I think what I saw completely last night, and I knew it already, but once again when 644 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:13,240 I was able to take it and really, because I'm dissecting these shows, it's like a mofo. 645 00:35:13,240 --> 00:35:14,240 Both of them. 646 00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:15,400 I'm like, okay, I'm doubting. 647 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:16,400 They are going against each other. 648 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,840 So they are putting, both of them are putting their best foot forward every second of these 649 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,400 shows, even though I'm not watching it head to head. 650 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:28,840 And what I really noticed was NXC is a TV show. 651 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,640 Better or worse. 652 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,880 AEW is a wrestling show. 653 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,280 Better or worse. 654 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,600 Now it leads to your point. 655 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,600 They started with Christian in the truck, which I loved because they never do things 656 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:43,600 like that. 657 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,920 And that's the thread that is typically missing on Dynamite. 658 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,880 If you are here for watching wrestling, which at the end of the day, we all are there to 659 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:52,880 watch wrestling. 660 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,440 That's why we are watching a wrestling show. 661 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,580 They give us wrestling in spades. 662 00:35:57,580 --> 00:36:02,160 But if you're there for a little bit more than that, there's a lot of times that AEW 663 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,920 leaves you wanting more. 664 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,820 Now on the opposite, we can say before the Triple H era, and even now a little bit on 665 00:36:07,820 --> 00:36:12,760 some of these shows, you get heavy promos and heavy story on WETV. 666 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:17,040 And you look at me like, damn, these two hours, there have been eight minutes of wrestling. 667 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,840 No, I don't know. 668 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,120 We got to find a happy medium. 669 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:27,980 And when you watch like when we watch an NXT, they had so many segments to set up something 670 00:36:27,980 --> 00:36:29,920 else in the same show. 671 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:30,920 That's a story thread. 672 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:31,920 That's a story arc. 673 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:36,240 That is what gets you invested in continuing to watch or maybe picking up the phone or 674 00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:40,040 sending the text out to somebody like, hey, check out what's going on on NXC right now. 675 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:44,520 And you'll get that with AEW, but it's more of, hey, check out this match. 676 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:49,080 I've heard more people talk about, and this is straight up, I've heard more people talk 677 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:59,700 about Roddy Strong and Toni Storm in the last three weeks than I have any other match outside 678 00:36:59,700 --> 00:37:04,160 of Kenny Omega and Will Lospreay this entire year. 679 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,160 And why? 680 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:06,880 Because it's entertainment. 681 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:07,880 Yes. 682 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:12,440 And that is what you get into these characters for is for the entertainment value. 683 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:17,560 You know, so like seeing, seeing it come out a couple of times, story arc through it, 684 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,640 Cody, and now he's a GM, story arc. 685 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:25,200 You see Cody like that's, that is a big piece of what is kind of missing from AEW. 686 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,160 Now, do I want them to go through it and do that? 687 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:34,720 I'm not saying that for sure, but I do want something to give me to point A to point B 688 00:37:34,720 --> 00:37:39,000 to give me to our two of the show or to the main event of the show. 689 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,600 Just don't hit me with the lower third graphic of these two people wrestling and you don't 690 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,280 give me a video package of how we got here or anything like that. 691 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:51,300 That's where from a TV product perspective, I think they could really help themselves, 692 00:37:51,300 --> 00:37:53,120 but it was, it was really apparent. 693 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:57,280 Just kind of going immediately from NXT to WWE. 694 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,040 I want to, I want to share a couple of messages. 695 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,480 So shout out to Chris Bush. 696 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:09,160 He is a damn near lifelong WWE fan. 697 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,000 Okay. 698 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:15,440 He sent me a text today and just basically said like, man, like NXT was pretty good. 699 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,420 He typically doesn't watch NXT too much. 700 00:38:17,420 --> 00:38:23,020 We got talking a little bit and then he said, I've watched Dynamite every Wednesday pretty 701 00:38:23,020 --> 00:38:26,520 faithfully for a year now and I'm not digging it anymore. 702 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,120 Like to the, like to the point that I'm almost done. 703 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,920 I'm like, oh, this is perfect. 704 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:37,440 I said, Hey, give me two to three reasons why you're kind of feeling that way. 705 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,360 And so we can bring it up on the show. 706 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:40,360 Here's what he said. 707 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:41,760 And I'll kind of like summarize some of it. 708 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,560 He said, when I started watching MJF was ending the feud with Warlow and Warlow was hot. 709 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:51,200 Then he was gone and seeing punk and MJ moved to telling a great story. 710 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,760 They claim were hot, then lost the titles. 711 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,760 Feels like the crowd isn't into them anymore, which sucks. 712 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,680 Then MJF disappeared for the money. 713 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,720 Then the brawl, then the punk termination, all the greatness that could have been gets 714 00:39:02,720 --> 00:39:07,080 lost and all that bullshit happening at the worst possible time. 715 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:13,400 Then Cole MJF had me for a second, but like Adam Cole had a dead plan behind him for a 716 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:14,400 promo. 717 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:15,400 I couldn't even hear last week. 718 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,400 I don't know, man. 719 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:17,400 It's tough. 720 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,020 He kind of talked about how much money it was. 721 00:39:19,020 --> 00:39:21,880 It could have been in the punk elite story that they didn't do it. 722 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:27,120 He said inconsistent appearances from people who I have no vested interest in. 723 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,000 Will Ospreay, for example. 724 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,640 I don't even really know a damn thing about the new women's champ. 725 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,720 I don't know about NJPW and I never will, so stop opening the forbidden door. 726 00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:39,840 I caught it like 10 things. 727 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,320 Too many titles. 728 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,120 Then he said, let me stop. 729 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,120 Laugh out loud. 730 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,120 Then he gave some things he loves right now. 731 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:50,840 He said Hill Christian, Prince and Swerve, Swerve and Hangman, Tony Storm's new gimmick, 732 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:51,840 Renee, MJF. 733 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,640 Of course there's some things that he likes, but I thought that was really, really interesting 734 00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:00,080 because here's somebody who didn't watch AEW in his infancy. 735 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,960 He doesn't watch NJPW. 736 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:07,240 He is somebody who AEW should be wanting to add to their fan base. 737 00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:11,720 And through those things for him, they've alienated him. 738 00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:13,760 One more thing and I'll get you guys thoughts on both. 739 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,000 Tyler, a guy over at gimmick infringement. 740 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,360 Shout out to you, Tyler. 741 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:24,480 I know he likes AEW more than WWE typically. 742 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:25,480 I asked him the same thing. 743 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,040 He gave me a couple reasons why. 744 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,080 He said, he gave me two. 745 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,720 He said there's still an anything can happen vibe that I feel when I'm watching Dynamite. 746 00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:38,720 He said, I think they have the top promos in the game. 747 00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:39,720 Can't miss with MJF. 748 00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:42,360 You can't miss with Eddie Kingston. 749 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,360 Can't miss with Samoa Joe, et cetera. 750 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,960 I think they both have incredible points. 751 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:56,000 Give me your guys thoughts on a more AEW fan talking about why they appreciate AEW over 752 00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,760 WWE and then a more WWE fan that tells you why they appreciate that more over AEW. 753 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,800 You want to go first, Yishun? 754 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,000 Because I'm ready to go. 755 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,000 I got a whole bunch of things over here. 756 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,000 Go ahead. 757 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,360 I was writing everything down. 758 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:16,040 So to Chris Bush, five to six of your 10 items you dislike about it has something to do with 759 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,320 either MJF or CM Punk. 760 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,920 So here we are with that. 761 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:21,920 Sheesh. 762 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:22,920 Okay. 763 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:27,600 So for Chris Bush side of things about Dynamite, everything he said is absolutely correct. 764 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:32,640 I think it was just bad timing and I think Punk had that black cloud over AEW for this 765 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,680 last year, year and a half. 766 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,600 I will ask him to just to hang on a little bit longer because of the reasons why you 767 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,720 came into watching Dynamite. 768 00:41:39,720 --> 00:41:40,840 I think it's still there. 769 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,020 Hey, we just found Warlow last week. 770 00:41:43,020 --> 00:41:44,960 So maybe something's going to change there. 771 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,440 Yeah, no more Warlow, baby. 772 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:47,440 We got him. 773 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:48,440 He came out too. 774 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,240 Again this week with MJF on his wrist. 775 00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:51,600 Yep, he sure did. 776 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:52,600 He sure did. 777 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,160 So this might actually be kind of your, would you put the thing in the sand? 778 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,320 Okay, now you can start all over again, Chris Bush. 779 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,600 So and come back over to being a Dynamite fan. 780 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,280 Tyler, anything can happen. 781 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,080 That is 100% true for better or for worse. 782 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:09,360 How we talked about NXT is a TV show for better or for worse. 783 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:14,840 You can, titles can drop at any moment on AEW and you're like, whoa, what just happened 784 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:15,840 there? 785 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,400 And again, the top promos. 786 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:22,120 Well, yeah, because those people have that luxury of being able to go out there and speak 787 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,080 however they want to, however they want to speak. 788 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,080 They are not scripted. 789 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,720 So those people that he mentioned, I think is at Eddie, Samoa Joe, some of these guys 790 00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:30,920 have been in the business for such a long time. 791 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,960 They know what works and what doesn't work and how to feed into the crowd. 792 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:41,160 I like Dynamite more than NXT and I, to E's point about why are we comparing it? 793 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,200 I guess naturally I'm comparing it because this is what the today show is all about. 794 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:45,720 But I really do like Dynamite. 795 00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:51,400 I think there's just so much raw talent, so much raw, beautiful goodness. 796 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,120 It just has to be polished and packaged better for me. 797 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:55,120 But I love Dynamite. 798 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,640 I think it's a lot of merit too. 799 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:05,800 I think the thing is that Tyler mentions about AEW are very true. 800 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,480 When you watch Raw, when you watch SmackDown, there are a lot of episodes that are kind 801 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,520 of just there. 802 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:19,520 They're there just to kind of slowly push stories along to get to a POE or whatever 803 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:20,760 it is. 804 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:27,240 So you don't always get that surprise element when you watch SmackDown on Raw. 805 00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:28,800 But I think there's something to that. 806 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:36,720 I think for a lot of the reasons why people love AEW, I think it alienates others. 807 00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:40,240 Because when we talk about the matches and the matches, the matches, there's a lot that 808 00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:41,880 goes on in those matches. 809 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,880 They're sometimes chaotic to where if you're a wrestling fan, you get it. 810 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,640 Because you got to kind of be in on it a little bit to be a wrestling fan. 811 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:55,360 But I think in AEW, they abuse that suspension of the belief that you got to have with wrestling 812 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,600 more than you should. 813 00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,560 And I think that alienates a lot of the viewers to where you're just constantly just giving 814 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:06,060 them high octane matches where they're not selling things or where everything's moving 815 00:44:06,060 --> 00:44:07,060 so quickly. 816 00:44:07,060 --> 00:44:08,060 It's kind of hard for you to digest. 817 00:44:08,060 --> 00:44:10,560 But really, as you said, you get numb to it. 818 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:15,440 So if you're getting banger after banger after banger after banger with no breather, at a 819 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,120 certain point, you get kind of like numb by the good wrestling, right? 820 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,080 Now you're just starting to stare at it. 821 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:25,440 Your eyes are just glazing over because you're just seeing so much of it. 822 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:32,040 Right to where as with NXT, WWE, SmackDown, they're layering it for you. 823 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:33,480 They're slowing it down. 824 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,240 They're kind of building you up to a certain thing. 825 00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:37,880 And then they kind of bring you down. 826 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,920 It's more emotional roller coaster. 827 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,600 And to be quite honest, that's why I watch wrestling. 828 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:43,600 Right? 829 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,760 I can't, to be honest with you, when I was a kid, when I was watching this stuff at five 830 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,800 or six years old, I could care less about work rate. 831 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,360 I'm like a Hirakurana. 832 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,640 Well, I know I didn't care about work weight. 833 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,240 Ultimate War is one of my favorite wrestlers. 834 00:44:56,240 --> 00:44:57,840 Man, we didn't care about none of that. 835 00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,640 We cared about the storylines. 836 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,680 We cared about the characters. 837 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:02,880 We cared about the drama. 838 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:03,940 That's what brought us into it. 839 00:45:03,940 --> 00:45:10,040 So in the heart of most wrestling fans, that's what you really love and you want about wrestling. 840 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:11,560 It's all about that. 841 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:18,000 So when AEW makes it so much about the moves and the matches, I think it's just really, 842 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,320 that's why I asked Rhodesia earlier. 843 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:20,640 I'm like, hey, do you think they're losing fans? 844 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:24,280 Because I hear all the time people saying that they don't watch NXT or it's not what 845 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,400 it used to be or, you know, it's not as hot as it was. 846 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:28,400 NXT or AEW? 847 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:29,400 AEW. 848 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:30,400 Excuse me if I say NXT. 849 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:31,400 Okay. 850 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:32,400 Got you. 851 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:36,520 I mean, I think if Dave Milster was an AEW guy, for him to say he thinks it's cold, that's 852 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,160 saying something. 853 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:42,600 And I think too, you know, the thing about, and this is, and of course, because it's our 854 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:43,600 show, right? 855 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,920 But this is our perspective. 856 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:50,920 Somebody could have just started watching wrestling three years ago because of AEW. 857 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,120 And that is their brand of wrestling that they would say, I think it is perfect every 858 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:55,800 single week. 859 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,200 So I do think that's part of it sometimes too. 860 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,600 Because what you said is kind of what, because we grew up on it. 861 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:02,600 Even if you're a fan of sports. 862 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:03,600 Right. 863 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:04,600 Right. 864 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:05,600 Right. 865 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:06,600 Pittsburgh Steelers. 866 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,400 If you are a Stiller fan, you know, I want a team that can stop the pass and the run 867 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:11,400 on defense. 868 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,920 And I want another, I want my team to be able to run it down your throat when we need to 869 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,360 and go for an eight, nine minute drive. 870 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:18,600 That is the fan base. 871 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:19,720 That is what you do. 872 00:46:19,720 --> 00:46:24,160 If you are a Golden State Warriors fan and you just started watching basketball six years 873 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,440 ago, you are like, man, I want the running gun. 874 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:27,640 I want the three pointers. 875 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,680 I want, we on fast break. 876 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,000 We on fast break. 877 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:32,960 We pulling up to the three point line to shoot a three point. 878 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,520 We ain't going to the hole. 879 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,600 Because that is what you, that's your thing. 880 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,820 So I do think that that's for sure part of it. 881 00:46:41,820 --> 00:46:46,320 But that's what makes this so awesome is there is no right or wrong way at the end of the 882 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:47,320 day. 883 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:48,960 If it is entertaining to you, it works. 884 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:55,200 I just think that there could be some things that like, I mean, what Bush said about, I'm 885 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:56,200 not in the NJPW. 886 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,640 Probably would never be in the NJPW. 887 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:05,600 That's valid because for him now, he knows if I continue to watch AW, I don't want to 888 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,240 watch Wrestle Kingdom. 889 00:47:07,240 --> 00:47:14,400 I don't want to go online to figure out who the IWGP champion is in, in New Japan. 890 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:19,920 So that means that I know now from May to probably July 1st, I can check out on AW because 891 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,400 that is forbidden door season. 892 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:23,400 That's valid. 893 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:33,000 Now, how about if they were to show a lot of video packages on their TV about Will Ospreay, 894 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,080 about Okada. 895 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,760 Maybe Chris Bush would be like, you know what? 896 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,920 I've never really seen them, but at least now I know who they are. 897 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,080 I understand why I should like this person. 898 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:48,520 Let me either go try to find this stuff now, or let me just take it as face value. 899 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:54,560 When they give it to me on AW, AW just runs a lot of their business as if, yep, you know 900 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,520 everything because you're an AW fan. 901 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:57,520 Here you go. 902 00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:58,520 Yup. 903 00:47:58,520 --> 00:47:59,520 Bingo. 904 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,920 They assume everyone knows everybody and their history and story. 905 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,800 I was just going to address that, Matt, as far as the, I don't care about these other 906 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,280 people. 907 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,480 I understand why you don't care. 908 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:16,760 Maybe though, if AW did a better job in telling you how great these people are, you probably 909 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:17,760 would care. 910 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:22,680 And that's like you said, because when I first got into AW Dynamite, that was the show that 911 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,920 was out, when I first got into AW, there was a lot of NJPW people and independent people 912 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:32,420 that I thought I knew fairly amount of the people that would come over and debut. 913 00:48:32,420 --> 00:48:37,920 But a lot of times I didn't know their songs or their catchphrases or even the embassy, 914 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,520 whatever, the eyes of the open people. 915 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:40,520 So for- 916 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:41,520 I don't know if you have any signs. 917 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:42,520 I didn't mean to. 918 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:43,520 Relaxed. 919 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:44,520 I was trying to go up. 920 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:45,520 Relaxed. 921 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:46,520 Whatever. 922 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:47,840 I'm just going to go back and check my hands here. 923 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:53,200 But for a moment, I almost felt like, damn, I don't know who that person is. 924 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:54,680 And why am I about to watch a show? 925 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,480 Why am I going to be in an area where I really don't know these people? 926 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,800 And I pride myself as being a huge wrestling fan. 927 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,960 But when you know the person's songs, they're going to be like, go ace, go ace. 928 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,440 I didn't know what that meant for a while. 929 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,520 I didn't know what y'all was saying for a while. 930 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,960 So I could see how that could be alienating the people. 931 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,280 And for some people, I don't have, you know how people say, I don't got time for no new 932 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:14,280 friends? 933 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,600 I don't have time for new wrestling fans or wrestlers. 934 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:17,920 So I get it. 935 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:23,600 But I think if AEW did a better job in presenting them, we can go be in one big person too next 936 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:24,600 to Will Astray. 937 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,720 I think Chris might feel a little bit different. 938 00:49:27,720 --> 00:49:28,720 But you know what? 939 00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:34,000 They're four years in, but it doesn't seem to be there's Tony style. 940 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,000 Yeah. 941 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,080 He's going to slow down to tell those stories. 942 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,080 So it is what it is. 943 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:39,080 Yeah. 944 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:45,320 And I think that same thing, now how many people you think knew who J. Cargill was before 945 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:46,320 she signed? 946 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:47,320 The WWE? 947 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:48,320 Yeah. 948 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:53,080 How much of their audience do you think knew who she was? 949 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,000 And we're taking out children out of this, right? 950 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,000 We're taking kids out of this. 951 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,000 I'm talking about their fan base. 952 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,000 You want to talk about kids? 953 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,640 Old folks, whoever. 954 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,200 Their fan base. 955 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,080 So I know where you're going with this, but 5%. 956 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,120 Ooh, I get more than that. 957 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:07,120 I say 5%. 958 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,640 I'm going to say little kids don't know who Jade is, but when they saw her, they was like, 959 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:11,640 whoa. 960 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:12,640 Give me a quarter. 961 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:13,640 Give me 25%. 962 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:14,640 I'm going to say 5%. 963 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:20,920 But by the end of this month, by the end of, by the time we get to Thanksgiving, how much 964 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,920 of their audience is going to know her? 965 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:23,920 100%. 966 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,960 And maybe not even because she's even in the ring. 967 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:33,200 They're making such a big deal on social media. 968 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,560 She's coming into the NXT looking the way she's looking. 969 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,480 Like, looking like a star. 970 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:42,080 Like, she's hopping up on SmackDown looking like a star. 971 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:46,680 If they don't know who she is, they're looking her up now. 972 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,200 They want to know who she is. 973 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:52,160 And those are some of the things that WWE does differently. 974 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,040 They don't assume that their audience knows Jade. 975 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,520 They're slowly introducing this character to their programming. 976 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,960 And that's something we just don't get in AEW. 977 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:05,600 And honestly, let's just put it is, and this isn't, we haven't gotten that from those people 978 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:06,600 in four years. 979 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,320 I don't think it's gonna start anytime soon. 980 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:16,160 And the cool thing is, at the end of the day, it doesn't need to because competition is 981 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:17,160 fantastic. 982 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:18,160 Yep. 983 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:19,160 And we saw that this week. 984 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:23,360 So shout out to AEW, shout out to NXT WWE. 985 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:29,640 If anybody thinks that WWE no longer believes that AEW is a threat, we know now for sure 986 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,640 they believe AEW is a threat. 987 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:32,640 Absolutely, 100%. 988 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,400 So, load on NXT, presenting Jade the waiter, presenting him. 989 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,600 And I've said it before, and I will say it again. 990 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:44,080 Oh my God, 2024 is going to be incredible when it comes to free agent signings back 991 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:45,080 and forth. 992 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:46,640 We are in for a hell of a time. 993 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,100 And I cannot wait. 994 00:51:48,100 --> 00:51:51,240 So these last couple years have been great being a wrestling fan. 995 00:51:51,240 --> 00:51:56,840 Now that it looks like Vince is completely removed from creative and Triple H is the 996 00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,320 head, he has his team. 997 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,080 We know AEW is gonna continue to grow and evolve because you have to or you're gonna 998 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,840 die and we know that they're not dying anytime soon, if ever. 999 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,200 We're in a really good space. 1000 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:09,320 We are in a really good space. 1001 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:13,600 So shout out to everybody that enjoyed this week with those two. 1002 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,120 Just enjoy wrestling. 1003 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:21,080 We had a lot of fun as wrestling fans this week on Twitter or XN and just watching the 1004 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:22,080 shows. 1005 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:28,040 I had another question that came through from our guy Brandon James on Twitter. 1006 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:29,680 Shout out to Brandon. 1007 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,000 He sent us something about seeing punk. 1008 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:34,800 Now he actually sent this a couple days ago. 1009 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:41,720 Words come out now that right now WWE is not actively in talks with seeing punk for a return. 1010 00:52:41,720 --> 00:52:48,320 Of course that can change, but it looks like my hope of seeing punk in Chicago for Survivor 1011 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,960 Series could be a no go now. 1012 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,560 We are getting war games though. 1013 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:53,560 Where's that round of applause at? 1014 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:54,560 So no, we're not doing that. 1015 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:55,560 Where's that round of applause? 1016 00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:56,560 Okay. 1017 00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:57,560 I'm sorry. 1018 00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,840 We're not getting war games, but it looks like there may not be punk, but I'm still 1019 00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,440 holding out hope. 1020 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,840 Brandon asked us, he asked us a really, really good question. 1021 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:09,560 It was around punk so we can still go with it because come this time, you never know. 1022 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,080 He gave us four different scenarios. 1023 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:16,800 He said, what would we rather see out of these four scenarios? 1024 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:23,280 Number one, Guether wins the Royal Rumble and he takes on Seth Rollins at WrestleMania 1025 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,040 for the championship. 1026 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:30,640 Number two, seeing punk wins the Rumble and takes on Seth Rollins at Mania. 1027 00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:37,400 Number three, seeing punk versus Cody Rose in the main event, one on one. 1028 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:43,480 And then you have Rock against Roman for the undisputed championship. 1029 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:48,240 And then four, you got Cody and Roman at the Rumble. 1030 00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:51,560 Rock gets involved. 1031 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,800 Cody wins. 1032 00:53:53,800 --> 00:54:01,160 So then night one is Cody and punk at WrestleMania for the title. 1033 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:07,160 Night two is Rock versus Roman at WrestleMania. 1034 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,520 You can only have one of those scenarios. 1035 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,920 Which one y'all going with? 1036 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:15,960 I'm going with the last one. 1037 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:20,000 Give me a Rock and Roman and then give me a- 1038 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,520 It's punk and Cody, wasn't it? 1039 00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,680 Yeah, punk and Cody night one, Rock and Roman night two. 1040 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:26,680 Give me that. 1041 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,560 But you know what, Brandon? 1042 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:33,200 I got to make it a little sweeter. 1043 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:34,200 Give me Rock and Roman. 1044 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:38,080 Give me Rock and Roman on one of the nights, one or two. 1045 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,360 No, that got to be night two. 1046 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,800 That got to end the Mania weekend. 1047 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:46,880 If you can get Rock, that is a super match. 1048 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:47,880 That's one of those- 1049 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:52,960 I'm losing this, it's getting late night y'all. 1050 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:54,920 That is one of those dream matches. 1051 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:55,920 Which one? 1052 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,680 This is Rock and Roman. 1053 00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,440 I think both of those could be a dream match. 1054 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:04,320 Cody and punk and Rock and Roman are dream matches. 1055 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:08,960 Rock and Roman is the number one match that can be made anywhere in earth in a wrestling 1056 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:10,560 ring. 1057 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,880 This is why I kind of miss the WWE Network. 1058 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:18,280 Because when you had the network, you guys can pop in Cody versus punk and they'll give 1059 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:19,280 you- 1060 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:20,280 Does that not work with peacocks? 1061 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:21,280 Did you go on like the- 1062 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:22,280 You don't do that anymore. 1063 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:23,280 You don't do that anymore. 1064 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:24,800 That's why I miss the network. 1065 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,840 But I think at some point they may have wrestled at some point. 1066 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,080 Maybe not anything big. 1067 00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:34,320 Cody was a little doll back then, right? 1068 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:39,440 But what if we get a return in CM Punk? 1069 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,920 And actually that might be another conversation for another day. 1070 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,280 I kind of feel like maybe this all could be smoke and mirrors. 1071 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:50,760 But I feel like it's very unlikely that we're going to get Punk in WWE. 1072 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,240 Because I wouldn't want him in my company. 1073 00:55:54,240 --> 00:55:58,680 After he left the way he left last time, the way he left this company, uh-uh, brother, 1074 00:55:58,680 --> 00:55:59,680 I need you to get some therapy. 1075 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,600 I need you to know that something- 1076 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,800 I need to know that you good before you come up with my rock and roll. 1077 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,160 You need to bring a certificate from therapy? 1078 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:07,160 Oh yeah. 1079 00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:08,760 I need to make sure you good. 1080 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,560 But let's say he punk came back, everything was all good. 1081 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,640 He was in a great place. 1082 00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:19,160 What if you get CM Punk and Cody fighting it out, right? 1083 00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,840 And then they're both, they fall out of the ring. 1084 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,160 They're still in the ring doing the apron. 1085 00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:24,640 They're trying to fight back and forth. 1086 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:25,640 He's going to fall off. 1087 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,320 And somehow they both fall off at the same time. 1088 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:33,240 And they're showing the replays and they're both touching the floor at the same time. 1089 00:56:33,240 --> 00:56:35,020 You ain't got a contest. 1090 00:56:35,020 --> 00:56:41,900 So now both these guys have steak ass, the winners, right, of the warrior rumble. 1091 00:56:41,900 --> 00:56:49,160 And we get a three way, with Punk, Cody and Seth for the world championship. 1092 00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,080 Give me that. 1093 00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:52,080 I'm down. 1094 00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:55,200 I think Rediz just passed out from not liking it. 1095 00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:56,200 You can give me that. 1096 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,040 I'll take a triple threat. 1097 00:56:58,040 --> 00:56:59,040 Hate triple threats. 1098 00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:03,000 Hate, hate, hate triple threats. 1099 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:08,880 So Brandi James, thank you for such a would you rather type question. 1100 00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:13,440 To answer the question, I'm going to go with number four, but because this is one third 1101 00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:17,080 of my show, I'm going to change it a little bit because I don't like any of these options 1102 00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:18,720 with CM Punk is involved. 1103 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:24,600 So I liked, I like Cody and Roman at the rumble. 1104 00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,920 The rock causes it or it stops them interference. 1105 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,800 However it goes, Cody wins the championship. 1106 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:36,800 Guether wins the rumble and then decides to go after Cody at Mania. 1107 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,800 And then you can still have rock and Roman at Mania. 1108 00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:40,800 There you go. 1109 00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:41,800 Look at the territory. 1110 00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:42,800 Rock and Roman. 1111 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:43,800 All right. 1112 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,800 Anything that includes rock and Roman put me down for. 1113 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:54,160 I tell Rediz when Cody came out on NXT and just the way the crowd reacted to his music, 1114 00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:59,760 I was like, there's going to be a lot of tears shed in that crowd whenever he does win the 1115 00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:00,760 championship. 1116 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:04,600 I'm assuming to say if it's at Mania this year, there's going to be a lot of tears around 1117 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:08,560 ringside I think, because that is a really, really cool moment for him. 1118 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,320 The longer it goes, the cooler the moment is going to be. 1119 00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:12,720 And that's why I don't want him in the triple threat. 1120 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,720 It's not going to be the opposite. 1121 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:15,720 He's come a long way. 1122 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:16,720 He really has. 1123 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,080 So shout out to him. 1124 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,000 And my answer would be the same. 1125 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:25,760 Give me rock and Roman and then give me Punk and Cody. 1126 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,600 I like it. 1127 00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:28,600 Book it. 1128 00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:29,600 Book it, damn it. 1129 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,600 No, no, don't book the Punk and Cody. 1130 00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:33,600 Give it to me. 1131 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:34,600 Give it to me, y'all. 1132 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:35,600 All right, y'all. 1133 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:36,600 Time to wind out. 1134 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:37,600 What y'all got? 1135 00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:42,680 I have something super duper light, like super duper light. 1136 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:48,040 We got to talk about Mr. Lexus King or what we used to know him as is Bill Pillman Jr. 1137 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,640 And whoo, did he get lined up? 1138 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:51,640 Bill Pillman Jr. 1139 00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:52,640 I said Pullman. 1140 00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:53,640 Bill Pillman. 1141 00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:54,640 We knew him as who? 1142 00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:55,640 Did I just make up his first name? 1143 00:58:55,640 --> 00:59:00,640 Absolutely you did. 1144 00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:05,640 Who did you get Bill from? 1145 00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:06,640 I don't know. 1146 00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:07,640 Who the fuck is Bill Pillman? 1147 00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:08,640 It's late Chicago too, y'all. 1148 00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:09,640 What's that? 1149 00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:10,640 Yo. 1150 00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:11,640 I know Brian Pillman. 1151 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:12,640 So who was Pillman? 1152 00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:13,640 I know Brian. 1153 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:14,640 Brian, Brian, Brian. 1154 00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:15,640 Okay, Brian. 1155 00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:16,640 Thank you. 1156 00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:17,640 Absolutely not Brian Pillman Jr. 1157 00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:21,680 Point is Mr. Lexus King, he got faded up at the barbecue. 1158 00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:22,680 That's all I got to say. 1159 00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:23,680 He got his teeth done too. 1160 00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:24,680 Shout out to him. 1161 00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:25,680 I didn't see the teeth. 1162 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:26,680 I saw that line up though. 1163 00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:27,680 He a brother now. 1164 00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,840 He went to the same male complaints that Brian Breaker went to. 1165 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,840 They both went to the same makeover spot. 1166 00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:34,720 I was like, hey, make us look like this person. 1167 00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:36,040 I don't know who they pointed to. 1168 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,360 I think like Brian pointing to Dom from Fast and Furious. 1169 00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:43,800 I don't know who Brian Pillman pointed to yet, but the boy was looking good, man. 1170 00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:44,800 His hair was laid. 1171 00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:45,800 He said he hates his daddy. 1172 00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,320 I was like, all right, I guess we going to Hill. 1173 00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:58,600 But I said it, three promo videos has made him more invested than I have been in the 1174 00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:02,160 two and a half, three years he was in AEW. 1175 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:03,200 You know what? 1176 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:12,520 That's one of the things about AEW that it's like a guy like Swerve, he's super creative. 1177 01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,000 He's going to come up with some awesome things, right? 1178 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:20,280 You see Inanna with his twerking next to Swerve, all the creative. 1179 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:26,440 If you are a creative person, you are going to really thrive in that environment. 1180 01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:31,640 But maybe like a guy like Brian Pillman, because you saw some flashes of him on the microphone, 1181 01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:33,020 right? 1182 01:00:33,020 --> 01:00:36,880 Maybe now he has somebody he can bounce ideas off of, someone can write for him, so now 1183 01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:41,040 he can recite those lines in his voice, somebody he can work with. 1184 01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:44,800 I think he's going to really come through because he has a look. 1185 01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:48,920 And obviously, like what you just said, that hairline, whatever he had going on, he had 1186 01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:49,920 it on point. 1187 01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,400 Either he went to the barbecue or he's dating his sister. 1188 01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:53,400 But go ahead, continue. 1189 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:54,400 He may, maybe. 1190 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:55,400 You never know, man. 1191 01:00:55,400 --> 01:01:02,040 But hey, I got one like and dislike on AEW real quick. 1192 01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:10,600 I love my boy, Powerhouse Hobbs, squashing the shit out of that Jericho. 1193 01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,360 As it should have been. 1194 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:14,720 He was squashing her shit. 1195 01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:20,080 I had to get up and wipe my TV screen down with wallpaper multiple times during that 1196 01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:21,080 segment. 1197 01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:24,760 He was spine busting their shit out of his ass. 1198 01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:28,600 Every single one of it. 1199 01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:29,600 You know what? 1200 01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:35,560 That was also one of the times where, because we know like they run through their matches 1201 01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:39,440 in WWE, so like the camera people know exactly what the finishes are and where it's going 1202 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:40,440 to be at. 1203 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:45,920 And I don't want that in AEW, because you can feel the free flowing in matches. 1204 01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:51,160 But that's one of the times where I wish the camera people would know what was coming, 1205 01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:55,840 because it looked like Jericho told him, pin me, when he pinned him and he got the three 1206 01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:56,840 count. 1207 01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:00,680 But they were cutting to Don Callis in the middle of the pin. 1208 01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,760 And then they shot back and it was a three count. 1209 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,960 I think it took away from the match was over. 1210 01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:11,440 And a little small tidbit, but like that matters when he destroyed Jericho. 1211 01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:15,720 Like it should have been straight right in the middle of that camera shot that he just 1212 01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:16,720 got destroyed. 1213 01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:17,720 He is left laying. 1214 01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:18,720 My man couldn't even talk. 1215 01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:19,720 Renee went to go check on him. 1216 01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:24,080 Jericho looked like a hard puppy, man. 1217 01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:27,920 Every time he gave him this spine buster, I was like, get his ass. 1218 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:29,080 Every time. 1219 01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,480 Every time I got up and said, get him. 1220 01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:32,480 Every time. 1221 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:39,960 One thing I didn't like, what the frick are they doing with Max Caster? 1222 01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,080 What are they doing? 1223 01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,080 Like so number one. 1224 01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:45,080 Stan MJF, right? 1225 01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:46,080 Yes. 1226 01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:47,080 No, no, no, no, no. 1227 01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:48,080 This ain't a Stan. 1228 01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,720 Because he, it's creepy when he does it online. 1229 01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,680 I'm not, she's been doing it for years and I don't get it. 1230 01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:54,680 All right. 1231 01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:55,680 Cause oh, you get it. 1232 01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:56,680 Look, oh, you get it. 1233 01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,440 Look, I know, I understand. 1234 01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:04,000 I understand Anthony Bowen's situation, right? 1235 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:07,840 And I get that the jokes that he's telling is like, you know, that was a funny joke that 1236 01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:12,240 men did, you know, back in the day, right? 1237 01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:13,240 But not for four years. 1238 01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,760 And it's really, really, really creepy. 1239 01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,300 So now that's, that's one thing going Twitter. 1240 01:03:18,300 --> 01:03:22,560 So they decided to bring this creepy Twitter thing to television. 1241 01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:24,440 This is where you talk about creative. 1242 01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:26,000 You're giving the boys creative. 1243 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:33,200 They think it's a good idea because at certain point the claim were one of the hottest things 1244 01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,400 in that company and maybe of all of us. 1245 01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:47,920 Now they're presenting one of their guys as a big juicy creep and she's the creep. 1246 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:53,680 This is not going to get Max Caster over unless he's coming out as, I don't know if he's coming 1247 01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,680 out and saying, Hey, I am also gay. 1248 01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,320 We're the first gay tag team. 1249 01:03:58,320 --> 01:03:59,320 That's great. 1250 01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:00,320 But guess what? 1251 01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:04,240 It sounds like you want to break MJ up and that's not right. 1252 01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:05,240 Exactly. 1253 01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:08,560 Being a creep is not, it's not cool. 1254 01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:12,640 And then you got Billy gun, you know, like, Hey dude, what's going on? 1255 01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,640 And then Anthony Bowen, I guess it's supposed to be funny. 1256 01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:15,640 Like here you do this. 1257 01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:16,640 I mean, no legit. 1258 01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:17,640 That's real time. 1259 01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:23,600 It's or let's let's play doubles advocate or this turns into them actually having his 1260 01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:25,840 back against the bank, bank gang. 1261 01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:29,360 And this actually elevates them in a better spot than where they are now. 1262 01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:33,720 It sounds like Max really wants his back and he's going to force it. 1263 01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:39,360 Forced me to take it from you saying like he told Max machine skate tools. 1264 01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:40,360 I know about your back. 1265 01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:41,360 Oh man. 1266 01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:42,360 That's great. 1267 01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:47,360 It's speaking of raw, really enjoy Drew's and Seth's interaction. 1268 01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:48,360 That's beginning wrong. 1269 01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:51,360 Drew's up next for a title shot. 1270 01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,360 You lose this and then he completely get out of seven. 1271 01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,360 Turn to give it to me. 1272 01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:57,360 Give it to me. 1273 01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:58,360 All right. 1274 01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:00,400 Well, that is a wrap. 1275 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:01,400 We ain't got no, no, no. 1276 01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:04,400 We deep dive this whole Tuesday night wars thing. 1277 01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:11,280 A W NXT W W. Both of you guys had a fantastic time listening to the show. 1278 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,280 Check us out on social X and Instagram. 1279 01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:16,240 That's F and W YouTube. 1280 01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:17,240 That's freaking wrestling. 1281 01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,000 Give us a five star review. 1282 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:20,000 Leave us some comments. 1283 01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:21,600 We'll do all that kind of good stuff. 1284 01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:25,200 We'll be back on Sunday to talk about who knows what I do. 1285 01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:26,200 Roman range is back. 1286 01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,720 Business is about to pick up ladies and germs. 1287 01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:29,720 Business. 1288 01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:30,720 Yeah. 1289 01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:31,720 Poor Jimmy. 1290 01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:35,240 Poor, poor, poor Jimmy. 1291 01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:36,240 You eating that. 1292 01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:37,600 We'll talk about it on Sunday. 1293 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:47,660 indicating ascending to the 33rd by Arru сч man and in the 1294 01:05:47,660 --> 01:05:49,280 fact that their