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So I wanted to come on here and go off on the man because on episode 61, I was still

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talking when you ended the show.

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I'm like, hold up.

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And then I look in and it said 91% recording complete, downloaded complete.

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You were still talking.

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I was still talking.

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Me and E, we were out.

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You were still going.

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I'm still going.

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I was like, I need to end.

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What point are you trying to make?

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I hope your point is fantastic.

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If you went from talking about whatever you was talking about at the end of last episode

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and you wanted to start this podcast, by all means, finish your point.

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So I was like, yeah, I'm about to come back, start episode 62, hardcore, just to be continued

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of what we talked about from episode 61.

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And then the big thing happened and I completely forgot what I was about to talk about.

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So nonetheless, what do we do here?

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We're going to start the show on talking about none other than Phil Brooks.

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Take it away, Matt.

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Just when you think like it can't really get worse or it can't be any more than what we've

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seen already.

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We are nine months to the year and this is absolutely the story of the year in wrestling.

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Had a lot of them.

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This is it.

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that is deemed to be explosive.

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maybe coming from an interesting crowd perspective, before we get into all that, let's start with

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it is Sunday.

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It is Labor Day weekend.

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So happy holiday to anybody who celebrates that.

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Probably more importantly, happy all out day for anybody that celebrates that.

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But probably even more important than that, because we just came off of all in happy last

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Sunday before NFL football for some months.

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We are back.

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NFL, I put my bet down Friday night.

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Detroit Lions winning the division.

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My bet is locked in the fan duel.

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We will see if that was a smart bet or not.

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Rudy's just showing off the bobble head right there.

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We are back.

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I am super excited for it.

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But we are here to talk about wrestling.

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And Eshaan, boy oh boy.

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Let's get the particulars and all that out the way.

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This is episode 62 of the TFW podcast.

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That's freaking wrestling.

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You guys know us three the hard way.

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Eshaan is here.

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Rhodesia is here.

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I am here.

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Matt, if you don't know, CM Punk has done it again.

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I guess really this time we can't say CM Punk has done it again.

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Tony Khan has done it.

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Let's real quick.

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Everybody knows at this point what happened.

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Tony Khan on Saturday releases a tweet that blows up social media.

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Last time I checked I think it had like 10 million impressions that he has decided to

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fire or terminate CM Punk with cause.

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Meaning that there's reasons for it.

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He shows up on collision.

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If you want to see the entire six minute speech that he had you can check out our Twitter

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page at That's FNW.

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I put the whole thing up there.

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He kind of showed it also or he talked about it beginning of collision.

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The crowd response was interesting for sure.

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Let's stop there.

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I'll just stop there because those are the facts.

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Those are the complete facts that we have.

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He showed up to collision, told us what was going on in the live crowd.

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You guys saw it at home on TV.

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Let's stop there and let's just talk.

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Thoughts.

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I was so incredibly happy that Tony came out.

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One, any heat that needed to be dispersed should have been targeted to him.

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Right or not, right or wrong, he should have taken it.

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I don't think the talent should have been the brunt of this shitting on.

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So I was one, very happy that he came out and did that.

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Two, I thought just even how he mentioned in his tweet, hey, this was done on an independent

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team that I never knew they had.

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He said it was made up mainly of lawyers and attorneys, but at the end of the day it was

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his decision.

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So to me, I was absolutely impressed that one, he made it sound like this was my ultimate

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decision.

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And then secondly, I love how he talked about how he's like a family businessman, that everything

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he's learned was from his father.

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And I'm talking about what he said to the live crowd.

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I don't know what he said on TV, but to the live crowd, he said this is how pretty much

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he operates.

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So just overall, him coming out, taking heat for like six minutes.

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To me, that says a lot about a leader and that made me feel really good.

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And by the end of that monologue, as I would call it, he actually had the majority of the

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fans for him and cheering for him.

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Yeah, I saw the video you guys posted and I was kind of surprised because I was actually

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napping at the time and I woke up and saw the text messages and the tweets that Phil

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Brooks was fired and I was really taken aback, but not a hundred percent surprised after

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a lot of the details or more information came.

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Even after our last conversation, more information was fed out to us.

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I think it's sad that it came down like this.

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I think it's sad for AEW.

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I think it's sad for Phil Brooks.

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I think it's sad for wrestling.

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I did find it slightly amusing because I'm listening to Tony Khan's message when you

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guys posted it.

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He was very upset.

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He had the microphone and he was like, guys, I had to come out here, I fired Phil Brooks

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and as the crowd started booing him and he started speeding up, I had to, with a whole

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heart and never in my life have I felt this way.

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I felt my security, my safety.

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I had to fire Phil Brooks just as I got to go.

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Here you go, you got to go right now.

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I'm like, go on, Tony.

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You're right.

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I'm like, go.

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Because after all the information was released about how Phil's reaction backstage, it was

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quite alarming.

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Let's keep going.

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I'm really, really interested in you guys' live experience.

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What did you guys feel live in the moment as he was talking?

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Live in the moment, I give him a lot of credit.

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He deserves as much credit as the blame I've given him for not taking a bigger stance on

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this for a year plus.

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We got to shout him out for that.

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I gained a lot of respect for Tony for coming out there and facing that crowd.

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He could have easily had this in the tuck and then waited to tweet that out Monday morning.

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It would have been like, damn, okay, so you didn't do it while we were in Chicago, but

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okay, whatever, and we moved on.

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He faced it.

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Probably the best thing of it was when the crowd started booing.

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I'm not sure if this got on camera or not.

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The crowd started booing and he basically was like, nope, I understand.

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Give it to me.

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I get it.

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Yep, I understand.

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He just kept saying.

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The thing about Tony is we always talk about how everybody says just how nice of a guy

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he is, how much of a sweetheart of a guy he is.

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I am sure it broke his heart to disappoint the fans, let alone the business decision

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that comes with having to fire your number one merch seller, your number one ratings

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draw.

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You can look at that with maybe him and MJF, the guy that you just gave an entire television

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show to.

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Take the business part out and just say as him as a wrestling fan, I am sure that had

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to be really hard for him to come out there and tell Chicago of all places.

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I know a lot of you are probably here for this person, but I had to do what I had to

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do and I'm sorry, but blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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I give him much, much, much props on that.

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Now, what I will say too though is there could be maybe some legal speak in there.

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I can't speak for another man.

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It would just be hard for me to believe CM Punk could have done anything back there to

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make him feel like his life was in danger.

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That's the part where I'm like, damn, that's kind of thick.

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You really put that on a little thick, but I can't speak for him.

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We don't know exactly what happened.

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We heard that there was minors end up on his lap or whatnot, but I can't speak for that.

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I do know that they were saying CM Punk lunged at him and I think Dave Meltzer came out last

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night or early this morning and said that saying the word lunge was really downplaying

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what CM Punk did to Tony Khan.

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Now, that's the case.

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You got to go.

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I think we all know, all right, it's time.

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What's going to be interesting though is what led up to this to get so fractured that there

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was no coming back from it and what was on that video that the lawyers, just think about

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it.

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If nothing happened outside of some suspicions, quote unquote, from brawl out last year, and

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we know people got injured in brawl out, nothing came out of that really.

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This one must've been a doozy because CM Punk has been fired.

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We don't know about Jack Perry yet.

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They haven't stated if he's reinstated or how long he's going to be out for or anything

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like that.

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It must've been pretty bad.

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It must've been really, really bad.

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Then you think to yourself, okay, what does the future of AEW look like?

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Once again, Collision was his show.

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I just hope me personally, and we can really get into what the future looks like for AEW.

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That's not just a 30 second answer.

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I hope it still keeps the same flow that I've loved from Collision without Punk.

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I guess probably now we'll see really what his influence was on that program.

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I think that's a really, really big situation.

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I think tonight at all out, because last night there still was only about 5,000 in the crowd.

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Tonight they're looking at 10,000.

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So you're doubling what was last night.

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So it was smart to do it yesterday, give people 24 hours to digest it, et cetera, et cetera.

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As I started saying, if Punk comes out with some type of crazy statement that is going

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to galvanize his fan base, tonight could get nasty, potentially.

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But no, shout out to Tony, man.

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I really respected him coming out and doing what he did, but he's got to still own it

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because I still feel like a sit down a year ago.

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A sit down, he first came back and said, look guys, we got to get this hashed out.

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I don't care what needs to happen.

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We're not leaving this room until y'all can at least share a locker room together, be cordial,

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be respectful.

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But this whole last set around these whole last set around the people though, wasn't

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the Bucks and Kenny.

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It was your Jack Perry and the young boys who don't like these old school G's.

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But it's still bubbling is what I'm saying.

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I could never became, all right, we can all still work together.

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Then there was a report that came out.

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There was supposed to be a sit down with Punk, the elite and Tony Khan.

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It was scheduled last week, supposed to take place in Atlanta.

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So I'm guessing maybe it was supposed to be after Dynamite E, the one you went to and

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before they went over to England.

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And then the word was at last minute, the elite can't pull it out of the meeting.

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So if you take that into consideration, Punk may have been frustrated like, damn, I'm trying

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to sit down with these guys.

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They don't want to sit down because there has to be much more to this story than what

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we know.

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So you take that into account.

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Okay.

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We're supposed to sit down and have a conversation before the biggest weekend of the year for

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this company didn't happen.

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He didn't get picked up from the airport properly.

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Well, yeah, true that.

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But yeah, but we add all this, we add all this stuff on top of it.

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And he's heated.

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Go ahead.

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Oh, and then you had mentioned something about Dave Mutzler.

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I can't ever say his last name.

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Dave said that the lunge is kind of taking it lightly of what really happened from what

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he's saying.

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Maybe that's what they saw on tape.

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Maybe it was something that was much more aggressive than that.

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And you do got to go.

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If you're ready to attack the boss, you got to go.

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I don't care what.

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Justin Barrasso had a really good article that he released today and he stated that

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the fight with Perry was not the only reason why Punk was terminated.

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That was one of the factors.

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What he said in his article was the other factor was Tony Khan could not calm down CM

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Punk after it was over.

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And their verbal back and forth.

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You got to remember too, we heard the report of CM Punk saying, I hate this place.

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You can't keep somebody there that says that.

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Ain't no coming back from that.

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You can't because then you look like, I mean, I don't even know what the word would be to

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the other wrestlers who aren't pro CM Punk in the bat.

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He's not a leader.

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Why would I work for this guy outside of them paying, giving me a paycheck?

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Why would I want to work for him?

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Why would I want to give him anything extra than my minimum if you're going to let this

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happen over here?

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And the one you just gave a show to is saying that I hate this place.

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You know what?

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I've kind of defended CM Punk on a lot of these things, but I've always said that as

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an older man, that he should be a little more mature and professional way he handles these

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situations.

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And that's something he has to look in the mirror, he has to answer to.

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And I get there's this frustration because we are frustrated with different things in

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our workplace and coworkers and bosses, et cetera.

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But we don't lunge and almost attack our bosses and think that's cool and we can get away

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with it.

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Because at the end of the day, he is a leader in that locker room to some, right?

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So if he can get away with that, that's setting the precedence for that company.

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So number one, first and foremost, before talking about Tony, because I think that Tony

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has some blame and leadership in the company overall has some blame in this.

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At the end of the day, it comes down to Punk.

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And he wasn't professional in the way he handled a lot of these things.

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It doesn't matter how frustrated he was in defense.

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He got picked up, he didn't get picked up properly.

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He got lost and yada, yada, yada.

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But he look at the small things, right?

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He got his own show.

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He was able to go on his show and throw a verbal shot at the young bucks with no repercussion,

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right?

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After a show, I don't care about if he was concussed or he was loopy or whatever it was,

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he threw another shot at hangman, right?

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One little shot at him spirals him out of control to the point that he...

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To that point too, he didn't say, see, Punk cried me a river.

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He just said, real glass cried me a river.

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Punk has made an entire career on subliminals.

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Subliminals.

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And winking and talking to us as the hardcore air net fans that only know what you're talking

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about because we are knee deep into this.

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That wasn't that much of a situation to where this should have happened.

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That would have went over a lot of people's heads, right?

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Because actually in the moment, I remember him saying it, but it flew right over my head

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to where it didn't really affect me, right?

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So one little jab at this man spirals him out of total control.

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That's a problem.

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That's a CM Punk problem, right?

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That's a CM Punk problem.

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Now with that being said, now if you know that this man, let's just say what it is.

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He has some emotional issues at this point.

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He has some trust issues.

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There's things going on with CM Punk that he has to answer for, and I hope that he's

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getting help that he's necessary.

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He may listen to this and say, you're out of your mind, but let me tell you something,

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CM Punk, what we've heard about you and your interactions with people and how you handle

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adversity is not the correct way that a mature man your age should handle things, period.

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So I hope he's starting to get the help that he needs so he can kind of handle these issues

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so he can have more productive ways of dealing with things.

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But at the end of the day, Tony could have a year or so ago nipped a lot of this in the

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bud.

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I don't think the original root cause of the issue was ever fully addressed, at least not

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fully addressed to CM Punk's perspective, right?

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And then at some point he felt like he had to kind of go into business for himself to

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kind of make himself feel better about the issue.

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When he came back from the injury, that's when TK, CM Punk, the Bucks, whoever should

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have said, hey, this is a clean slate.

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Let's air everything out.

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Let's fully hash out all our problems so we can move forward productively.

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And it sounds like this never happened, or maybe it did and CM Punk kept it escalating.

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But when he came back from injury, this should have been a clean slate and it sounded like

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it just was a continuation from their previous problems, never had to handle properly.

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And now we're at this point to where, you know, Collision, which was one of my favorite

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shows, right?

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I would say probably maybe my favorite show on wrestling right now.

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And the leader of that show was no longer there.

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He's a big merch seller for that company.

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As polarizing as he was, he definitely was a needle moving for the company and now he's

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gone.

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And now the company has to pick the pieces and move forward.

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And it's like I'm sad for that.

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I'm just going to say I told you so.

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Told y'all so.

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He should have never brought CM Punk back.

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I was never ever on the bandwagon of bringing him back.

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I thought he should have stayed away after everything happened ever all out.

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And he showed me his level of pettiness at the scrum.

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When he showed it to us, point blank, I don't care.

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You have to have some decorum as just as a man.

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And how he reacted at the scrum.

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I told y'all he lost in my eyes, I lost respect for him.

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Again, who am I to punk?

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Nothing probably to him.

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But for me, to me, he was a lot to me.

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I liked him.

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I actually did love him.

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And him coming back, I got caught up in all the gooseys and stuff like that.

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But when he showed his ass out, no thank you.

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And AW Tony Khan should have never brought him back.

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And I know what y'all said.

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He is a needle mover, which he was.

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And he the number one selling merch, all that.

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But he should have never brought him back.

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I felt like now we're one year behind again.

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Even hating so much of Ricky Stark's talking about it on Collision.

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Not to jump to Collision, but just like, I gotta start all over again.

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Gotta do this all over again.

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And it was so much passion and advice when he talked about that.

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It was interesting too with Stark's promo.

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Because if you didn't know, you'd be like, what the hell are you talking about?

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What are you talking about?

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But you know, if you do know, you know exactly what you're talking about.

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I even went back and watched it after Payback last night.

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I was like, let me just see if maybe I missed something being in the crowd.

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And no, like him, you know, bigging up, big bill, talking about the things you've gone

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through.

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You will be like, what is this guy talking about?

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But I think we all knew what he was talking about was I get a chance out here.

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And once again, that chance falls through.

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I wasn't on all in.

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I suppose the main event all out and now look what happened.

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And it's not even because of me.

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But he definitely got it ain't it ain't punk in terms of being punk in Chicago.

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But boy, he has a pretty damn good consolation prize tonight.

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Yeah, Brian coming back so hard.

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So that worked out.

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So, you know, what punk and it doesn't mean punk's a bad guy, right?

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Like we've met punk before.

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And it was like one of the coolest conversations I've had with a wrestler.

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Yeah.

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So I don't think he's a bad guy, but I think something really bad.

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I don't know what it was about the hangman promo, but it seemed like they never recovered

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from that.

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Eat to your point of him throwing those shots at the collision promo, his first promo bag,

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which I hate it.

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There's just a lot.

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You kind of look back now, you say, you know, him showing up to WWE Raw in Chicago.

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Remember when he was backstage and the call was made to Vince and they're like, hey, he's

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got to leave.

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Now looking back at this, was that premeditated?

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Because we all know punk is extremely smart.

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I'm here.

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I don't think he does anything maybe besides what happened at all in that he doesn't really

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think through.

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Was that a hey, look, I'm trying to get out.

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Is there an opportunity here?

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Because I because I think there's got to be a conversation had with WWE and punk.

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We don't know what does not compete looks like.

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We don't know if there even is not compete with this, but there's got to be a conversation.

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But how long has he been thinking about this?

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Because now knowing this and now that he's fired, we could probably go back.

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We want to continue to go back and look and look and look and say, oh, I mean, he may

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have been trying to get out right here.

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Oh, man.

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He knew what that was.

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He's planted.

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Oh, man.

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He knew if he said this here, if he acted this way here, there's a chance that he can

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alienate someone else.

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It's sad.

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It's just sad because we knew it wouldn't work without a sit down and they never got

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to the point or place of a sit down.

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I see some people online who are like, hey, this is great because now the cancer is gone

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from the locker room.

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A.W. can get back to being A.W.

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And I think that's a loaded statement because the locker room was never perfect.

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And no locker room is.

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We just don't hear about the stuff that happens in WWE like this.

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But let's not forget Thunder Rosa and Brit and all that.

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So it's not perfect.

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But it wasn't also Skittles and Rainbows either without Punk.

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We had a rough patch of A.W. programming after All Out last year.

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Punk won on TV.

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So it's not like, oh, man, Punk came in and everything just went down and now he's gone

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and everything's about to go back up.

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Tony's got some really big decisions to make about the future of A.W.

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So let me ask you guys, how does this change A.W. as we know it?

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I feel like we just, again, just going to rewind a year ago.

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I mean, it's just like this whole thing was just a blip and we have to start all over

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again.

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But you can't say that because now you got collision.

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You didn't have collision a year ago.

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Well, your favorite saying that you say to me at home is you call up Mercedes and Edge

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and say, hey, I got a show for you for Saturdays.

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You bring them over.

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Saturday night.

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It's all yours.

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The show's all yours.

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I think for what he's just writing, a lot of aspect, it kind of goes back to where they

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were a year ago.

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I think that Tony Khan is going to put more pressure on himself to do more, to create

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more and be more involved, which is sad to see for me on Collision Guy.

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I think that Punk was heavily involved in how that show was structured and it showed

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it was a very structured and organized show I felt like.

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When I listened to Ricky talk, I knew immediately as a fan of Ricky starts, I knew exactly what

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he was talking about as far as starting over.

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Because one thing about A.W. is that you can start off, you can have a hot program and

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then all of a sudden it cools down immediately afterwards.

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There's no follow-up, there's no contingency plan for you afterwards.

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You kind of go fall back down to pecking order.

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And finally, Ricky Stark has some focus.

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He's telling me there was a plan in place for him.

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And with a lot of those guys on that show, especially on Collision, there was a plan

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for those wrestlers and you could see it from week to week.

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I don't know if we lose that on Collision because we don't definitely have it on Dynamite.

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So I know that Brian Danielson is heavily involved in the creative as well.

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Hopefully Tony understands that, hey, he needs some help with all this content that he's

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providing and maybe Brian gets a bigger task on some of this creative.

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Hopefully he hires some additional creative people to kind of help with these shows just

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to kind of get it back to where it needs to be.

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And I hope, from a structural standpoint, I hope he hires somebody.

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I think Christopher Danielson is head of talent relations or something like that, right?

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Yes.

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Yep.

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Hey, I'm not saying he needs to be fired, but he needs to get some help.

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He needs to get another team in place around him.

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Somebody they can trust, somebody they respect, they can lay the law down in that locker room

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because they definitely don't have it right now.

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They haven't had it in quite some time.

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All the stuff that's coming out.

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We talk about CM Punk so much.

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It's not just CM Punk.

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There's been things going on in that locker room forever.

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You look at these matches, they kind of do whatever they want to do.

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You got guys wanting to use real glass and matches for whatever the case for.

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I'm not sure why.

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They need to get somebody in place.

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I don't want to call them a security team.

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They need to get some bad guys installed in that locker room and then that leadership

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program to kind of ruffle some feathers and get these guys in line.

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Because there's a reason why in WWE you don't hear a lot of these things because it's not

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allowed.

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And if it does happen, they're out of there really, really quickly.

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In AEW, everyone got loose mouths.

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The mouths is just like water.

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Everything happens.

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We all hear about it.

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We hear all the details.

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And it's sad that AEW had their biggest show, arguably the biggest wrestling show in history.

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00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,160
And we're talking about everything other than that big show.

476
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:54,640
They have done a really good job of keeping that show alive on TV.

477
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,020
They talked a lot about Dynamite, even though in Collision, Kevin Kelly made a couple comments

478
00:26:58,020 --> 00:26:59,020
about All In.

479
00:26:59,020 --> 00:27:00,800
So I do like that, that they're keeping that alive.

480
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:06,840
Because it was only a week ago today, but it feels like it was fucking months ago.

481
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,800
Because of everything that's been going on with this punk stuff.

482
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:17,800
For me, when I asked how does this change AEW, you hope the locker room, and you don't

483
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:18,800
have to like each other.

484
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,960
I don't want a kumbaya.

485
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:21,960
I'm not saying that.

486
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:32,040
But you hope that they look at this as an opportunity to elevate the company.

487
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,960
It's a big blow to Miss CM Punk.

488
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:39,840
He is not somebody outside of, so yes, Radiza did say it.

489
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,760
My thing is, okay, that phone's gotta be ringing for Edge.

490
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,960
We know there's already a Mercedes deal in line.

491
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,700
She's just gotta get healthy.

492
00:27:48,700 --> 00:27:50,820
But maybe that deal looks a little different now.

493
00:27:50,820 --> 00:27:54,520
Maybe before that deal was we'll share you with NJPW, whatever else you want to do.

494
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,560
Hey, we'll still share you, but we need you the majority of Saturdays now.

495
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:03,360
And this can be your show along with Edge, along with whoever else they can pull.

496
00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:06,520
And then I think you'll be okay.

497
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,120
But this is a massive gap.

498
00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:11,960
This is not just going to be business as normal.

499
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,840
There are people who are watching AEW, I think solely for CM Punk.

500
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,400
I also think there was a lot of people though who watch AEW that hated CM Punk.

501
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,800
I didn't realize how divisive it was.

502
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:22,800
Until last night.

503
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,400
Well, no, before last night.

504
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,480
I put up one of my jokes on Twitter a few days ago.

505
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:33,080
And the amount of people under my tweet that was just like, CM Punk can be fired.

506
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,080
I hate CM Punk.

507
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,080
CM Punk needs to go.

508
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,080
I was like, whoa.

509
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,080
He's polarizing.

510
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,080
Yeah.

511
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,920
I didn't know it was to that level.

512
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,640
I thought it was kind of like a gimmick.

513
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,600
But no, people really didn't like him.

514
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:45,600
It just sucks.

515
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:50,600
It sucks because man, there was so much they could have done with the heel punk.

516
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,640
There was so much they could have done with the tweener punk.

517
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:53,640
Yeah.

518
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,960
I mean, it's such a missed opportunity, but it is what it is.

519
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,160
It is what it is at this point.

520
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,800
Now he is officially terminated.

521
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:11,040
What chances do you guys put him in WWE in the foreseeable future?

522
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,040
Hey, real quick though.

523
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:19,400
I don't think Edge and Mercedes make up for CM Punk on collision in my personal opinion.

524
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,240
I wonder if Edge can.

525
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,440
I think maybe them combined maybe.

526
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:31,000
If Mercedes was coming right off of Sasha Banks from WWE, yes, she would.

527
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,440
But we know a lot of times just in life out of sight, out of mind.

528
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:39,920
And I think the majority of casual fans have not kept up with anything Mercedes has done

529
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,000
since she debuted in New Japan in January.

530
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:48,840
So for them, they haven't seen Sasha, Mercedes in over a year now probably, right?

531
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:54,800
Yeah, because her and Naomi walked out in August, I think of last year.

532
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:59,720
So she's been gone now for officially a year from mainstream nationally televised in the

533
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,760
United States TV.

534
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:10,280
I think Sasha, Mercedes wrestling talent can make up for Punk and then Edge's mind can

535
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,480
make up for Punk.

536
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,480
Again, we're booking this here saying that both of them would come.

537
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,600
But I do think that the two of them together would make up for Punk.

538
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:22,560
Because Edge has so much in his mind, even though I hate on him all the time, he's a

539
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,520
great wrestling mind, completely wrestling mind.

540
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,220
And Sasha just still goes and ring.

541
00:30:27,220 --> 00:30:29,680
So I think the two of them could make up for that.

542
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:35,360
Because for me, it's not the wrestling on air aspect of where it missed for Punk.

543
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,800
I think it's going to be his influence backstage.

544
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,840
And I think his Edge.

545
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:45,920
But at the same time though, I mean, we'll see, right?

546
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,280
We've never seen Edge in that kind of role.

547
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:50,600
And it could be too.

548
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:51,600
It could be too.

549
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:52,600
Maybe worse than Punk?

550
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:53,600
I don't think so.

551
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:58,280
Well, maybe Brian has much more influence than we know on Collision.

552
00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:59,920
He was there last night.

553
00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:01,360
Collision still felt like Collision to me.

554
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,000
E, did you watch the show?

555
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,000
Did.

556
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,040
Did it feel like Collision to you still?

557
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:11,680
Like format and everything?

558
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,400
I wouldn't say it felt different.

559
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:19,960
But you know, it felt a little off not with Punk not being there and with everything going

560
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:20,960
on.

561
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,400
So for me, it's gonna, I'm gonna have to watch it a couple more episodes to kind of fully.

562
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,400
Because I'm still kind of like, you know, I understand Punk had to go, right?

563
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,040
Definitely had to go, but it's still from a, man, we've had so much.

564
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:36,480
I won't say this is as big as losing Bray and you know, Terry Funk.

565
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,240
You know, the Bray thing really made me say I kind of wanted to detach from wrestling

566
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,240
for a little bit.

567
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,320
I'm a real big fan of his and he was so young.

568
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,320
But this is another thing, man.

569
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,560
Like damn, now we don't see a Punk on Collision.

570
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:47,560
Like, right?

571
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:48,560
They couldn't make this thing happen.

572
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:53,720
You know, it's just, it's just more, I think just more sad news and wrestling.

573
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,880
And you know, I know Rod issue was like, you know, Hey, it should never brought him back.

574
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,840
I think, look, people deserve second chances.

575
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:05,240
Like that dude spassed out at an interview and they look kind of let it happen.

576
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,200
So I feel like you kind of can learn from patch experiences.

577
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:13,140
Like Tony, I can't put certain individuals in these situations, right?

578
00:32:13,140 --> 00:32:15,880
Because they're going to hinder themselves and the company.

579
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,200
Note it got that right?

580
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,200
Hey, Punk, when you come back, this is how we have to move.

581
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,440
I was hoping that when that second chance of things could have went better and they

582
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,560
didn't actually got much, much worse.

583
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,200
And I don't think the company is any better for us.

584
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,860
I felt like it's just kind of sad for me.

585
00:32:30,860 --> 00:32:34,960
So like when I watched the show, I was kind of like, ah, you know, yeah.

586
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,280
And then they're promoting this, this show that's coming tonight.

587
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,280
Right.

588
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:43,240
And I don't really feel that great about it.

589
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,640
I feel much better about all out today after going to Collision yesterday, for sure.

590
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:48,640
I do too.

591
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:49,640
Cause you, cause now you got Brian on there.

592
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,320
They had a couple of matches I just saw they have added.

593
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,600
I mean, this isn't going to add any buys, but they just added a over the top battle

594
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:01,360
royal for zero hour.

595
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:06,560
And whoever wins gets to donate money to their charity of choice.

596
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,920
I haven't seen, they haven't said yet who's like in it or anything.

597
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,900
But yeah, it's on, although it's this dark, so she got on zero hour.

598
00:33:14,900 --> 00:33:24,520
So yes, I was on the pile with my guys over at OTM and we talked about how is Athena still

599
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:25,840
locked behind a paywall.

600
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,800
So at least she's on zero hour.

601
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:28,800
That's great to see.

602
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:34,200
We still only have one women's proper match on all out.

603
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,280
I think that's a miss, but I'm happy that we still have that.

604
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,000
They did some good things on Collision with Outkast.

605
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,960
Just Outkast, they cracked me up.

606
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,840
Like they're pretty good.

607
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,880
But it is sad, but I'll tell you what though.

608
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:53,000
I kind of felt like on Saturday when I read that, after I got my jokes off, I kind of

609
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,680
felt like a sigh of relief.

610
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,960
Like all right, we can breathe now.

611
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,660
Like it's over.

612
00:33:59,660 --> 00:34:02,520
Because it felt so burdened.

613
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:07,800
It felt like way down on Dynamite when we were in the crowd on Wednesday, which that

614
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:12,640
was the least attended AEW show I've ever been to.

615
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,920
Now Arena holds about 11,000 max for wrestling.

616
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,680
There was probably about 4,000 people in attendance.

617
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:25,960
Typically they're going to get eight, 9,000 to an AEW show.

618
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,680
And the crowd just wasn't lively at all.

619
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,480
I think a lot of it was punk for sure.

620
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,920
So last night was a little bit better for Collision.

621
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:40,960
They still probably only had 5,500 people in attendance in United Center.

622
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,320
That's a pretty sizable miss.

623
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,120
They should have 10,000 at all out tonight.

624
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,360
So that'd be fun.

625
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:54,080
But last night was kind of like, okay, Wednesday felt like a grieving.

626
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,040
We were at like a wake or a funeral.

627
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:01,080
And then last night was kind of like some anger in the crowd.

628
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,000
But okay, it's time to kind of move on.

629
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,880
Tonight should be interesting to see what exactly the crowd reacts to.

630
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:13,800
The Bucks, on TV it sounded like more booze than cheers from where we were sitting.

631
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:14,800
It was more cheers.

632
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:15,800
They got a nice reaction.

633
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:20,680
They got a nice reaction when they came out to make the save for FTR at the end of the

634
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:21,680
main event.

635
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:27,600
WB was also told last week that the soft split is ended.

636
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,160
That's probably what I'm more worried about.

637
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,160
Exactly.

638
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,160
Take away CM Punk.

639
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,000
Because that's not the question of is Collision going to be the same now that you're saying

640
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,920
that the soft split is done.

641
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,040
That's probably what I'm worried about.

642
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,720
This cannot turn into Rampage Part 2.

643
00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:45,320
I do not want to see Storyline start on Wednesday and then it converts over to Saturday.

644
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,320
Like that of the same week.

645
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,320
Nope.

646
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,440
I really liked how Starks was able to shine.

647
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,720
I liked how Christian was able to get a lot more time.

648
00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:57,200
You know, Punk.

649
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,680
Collision has done some really Jay White, Bullet Club Gold.

650
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,280
You know, Powerhouse got some shine.

651
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,000
You were doing something with them.

652
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,680
So still let's try to keep it separate.

653
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,240
House of Black, you saw them every week pretty much on that show?

654
00:36:11,240 --> 00:36:17,880
Nah, I do think there is a world where this can still work without being a soft split.

655
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,680
Think about all the talent they have and if it's at the disposal for every show.

656
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:26,040
Then you say, man, like, okay, this could work.

657
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:33,400
But I just don't want to see Storylines continue and people still not be put on television.

658
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,240
But you know, here's the thing, guys.

659
00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:37,800
Like you talk about that Dynamite show, right?

660
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:38,800
It was least attended.

661
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,760
Man, they're asking a lot of you guys' market.

662
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:42,760
Yep.

663
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:43,760
Right?

664
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,960
We got three shows, right?

665
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:46,960
Three shows.

666
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:54,520
And look, the economy the way it is right now, things cost a lot of money right now.

667
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,680
So now you're in the same market for three major shows.

668
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,000
That's asking a lot.

669
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,320
We had Collision here in July.

670
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:02,740
We had the

671
00:37:02,740 --> 00:37:03,740
Yeah.

672
00:37:03,740 --> 00:37:04,740
Return.

673
00:37:04,740 --> 00:37:06,920
We had Dynamite that Wednesday before.

674
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:07,920
Yeah.

675
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:08,920
Yeah.

676
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,280
That so to your point, it's a lot.

677
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:13,280
It's fatiguing.

678
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,280
It's fatiguing especially.

679
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:19,420
And you think about the people that was there last night and Wednesday night, at least half

680
00:37:19,420 --> 00:37:21,880
of them probably bought all in.

681
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,040
So that's still another $50 that you're talking about that you're dishing out.

682
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,880
It's a lot of money.

683
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:27,880
Yeah.

684
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:28,880
Yeah.

685
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:34,640
And the fatigue factor is real too, right, because we just had an eight hour event with

686
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:35,640
all in, right?

687
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,240
Then we had Dynamite.

688
00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:41,040
Then we had Rampage and then we had Collision.

689
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,040
Now we have another pay-per-view we have to focus on.

690
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,760
I mean, there's a lot of...

691
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:52,080
They're asking for a lot of mental and financial investment into that company right now, right?

692
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:58,000
And with the all in show, they're asking us to open our wallet again, right?

693
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,000
And then another $50.

694
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:04,880
Oh, and by the way, 90% of the matches, I'm going to tell you what they are a day or two

695
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:05,880
before the show.

696
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,880
That's a lot.

697
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,920
And it would be okay if they were dream matches, quote unquote, right?

698
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,200
Which is why Forbidden Door works.

699
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:16,200
But we'll see what the buy rate is.

700
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:17,680
The buy rate is going to be low.

701
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:22,840
I do think they added some things this week that's going to help the buy rate.

702
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:23,880
The show's going to be great.

703
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:24,880
The show is going to be great.

704
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:25,880
But you know what I'm sad about?

705
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,320
You know what I'm sad about?

706
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,320
What's that?

707
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:30,320
Shane Taylor, man.

708
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,680
I love Shane Taylor, man.

709
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:32,680
More props, man.

710
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,000
I think he needs to be on TV more.

711
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,520
I think he's legit.

712
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,480
I think he reminds me, I think he has a great match with Samoa Joe.

713
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,120
Because Samoa Joe, man, his promos are so real, man.

714
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,120
I love his promos.

715
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,040
I know we're going to get into collision at some point.

716
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,200
I love his promos.

717
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,000
He just comes across like a legit badass.

718
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,080
He looks like a legit badass.

719
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,240
Shane Taylor, and I hate when people do this to us, right?

720
00:38:55,240 --> 00:38:58,600
Shane Taylor is like the black version of Samoa Joe.

721
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:06,720
Because he's a big guy who speaks very believable promos, has a very aggressive style.

722
00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:07,720
Can't go, right?

723
00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:13,200
He is like a traditional wrestler, quote unquote, right?

724
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,880
But it seems like he was just kind of thrown out there.

725
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:21,120
Now, if you watch ROH and you're spending 10 bucks a month or whatever it is to watch

726
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:25,960
ROH, maybe you're kind of invested in that few, but for the vast majority of us, I don't

727
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:31,040
think the big audience at A&W knows who this man is for that to be a buying point for the

728
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,200
show.

729
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:37,560
That's a match that because we're going to be in attendance, I'm really excited for.

730
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:42,040
And I know Shane Taylor, but that's a match that if I'm on the fence on buying the pay

731
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,800
for you, that ain't going to move the needle for me.

732
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,040
But that's how I feel about a lot of these matches.

733
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,080
The eight man tag, the Bullet Club gold, FTR and bucks.

734
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,360
The match is going to be fantastic.

735
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,720
Well that has high profile guys in it at least.

736
00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:58,320
It does, but that's still not a match where I would say I got to buy the pay for you for

737
00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:59,320
it.

738
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,320
When that bell rings and the match is over, we're going to be like, damn, they did it.

739
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:03,320
That was great.

740
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:04,320
But it's not going to be.

741
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,320
No, no, no, no.

742
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:06,320
I probably would.

743
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,120
If you're talking about FTR and Young Bucks teaming up, I probably would buy that pay

744
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,120
for view.

745
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,120
You can get some guys for that.

746
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,120
Not coming off of all in for me.

747
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:14,120
Not coming right off of all in.

748
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,640
I'm not saying not for me particularly, but I could see me being somebody who said, oh

749
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,800
my God, Young Bucks and FTR teaming up.

750
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,280
Like last was a dynamite.

751
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,800
They tried to shake his hand and they left off.

752
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:30,580
And then last night, Young Bucks tried to shake FTR's hand and FTR left out.

753
00:40:30,580 --> 00:40:32,680
That would get me to buy it.

754
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:33,680
Maybe not Rodizia.

755
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:34,680
I agree with you, Rodizia.

756
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:35,680
Somebody would.

757
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,920
I think that's what they're going for too is to dream match quote unquote them teaming

758
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,160
together.

759
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,920
I think that's what they're going for.

760
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,880
But damn, what if they kind of built towards this?

761
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:45,880
Right?

762
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:50,720
What if we have like a bill, a proper bill to this team versus something they kind of

763
00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:53,520
threw together the day before the show, right?

764
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,480
Hours before the show, I guess.

765
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:56,480
Yep.

766
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,600
And we'll talk our Wednesday pod to be a lot of all out review.

767
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:04,640
I don't want to talk too much of all out now because a lot of times about you guys watch

768
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,000
listening shows already over.

769
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,360
Last thing on punk and then we can move on.

770
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:10,560
Oh, we didn't answer your question.

771
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:11,560
I asked the question.

772
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:12,560
Yeah.

773
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:13,560
What was your question?

774
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:20,160
Did you see seeing punk back in WWE?

775
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:24,280
I'm going to stick to it and say, no, I do want to say one thing because I give him so

776
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,000
much, so much heat.

777
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:34,360
I think when punk left WWE in the way that he did and how he left, I think when he, however

778
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:39,480
he rectified that whole situation in his mind, he said to himself, I will never ever let

779
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,400
a company do this to me again.

780
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,800
So that's probably where I felt like maybe he had a chip on his shoulder going into AEW.

781
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,800
It was something that he heard a lot of buzz about.

782
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,680
He heard Tony was a good guy, so he went to go over there.

783
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,640
And then anytime something came up that he didn't like, he's like, nope, I'm going to

784
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:54,840
nip that shit in the bud right now.

785
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,000
I'm not going to go through what I went through before.

786
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,760
So it kind of calloused him.

787
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:04,480
So I do want to give him, not props, but I want to give him, let him know or kind of,

788
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,560
I understand maybe why he was a little more hardened, maybe why he probably is a little

789
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,320
more petty, why he's a little bit more, no, I'm going to give him a little bit more of

790
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:15,760
a, I'm going to give him exactly what I want because I pretty much was in hell and misery

791
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:16,760
at WWE.

792
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,480
I would never let that happen again.

793
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,720
But to answer your question, no, I do not want to see him in WWE.

794
00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:24,080
I didn't want to see him back in AEW.

795
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,440
Let him find something else that he wants to do.

796
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,920
If you want to create his own company, his own show, do something with his wife in wrestling,

797
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,400
go for, but no, he can't work for somebody else.

798
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,520
He has to be his own, the boss himself.

799
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:41,800
Oh, you had some, you, I thought you were going to say something.

800
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:42,800
Yeah, no, I do.

801
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:43,800
But go ahead and get it off.

802
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:44,800
Go ahead.

803
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:45,800
Go ahead and get it off.

804
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,160
He, well, he knows he can't pull this in WWE.

805
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:50,160
This wouldn't even be a thing.

806
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:51,160
None of this would be a thing.

807
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,160
That ain't, that ain't happening there.

808
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:53,160
And he knows that he knows that.

809
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:58,160
So then he shouldn't go, then he shouldn't go.

810
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:02,720
No, but I think if you look at it from his perspective, he could be so frustrated with

811
00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:09,600
the immaturity of the company to say to your, to your boss, I hate this place.

812
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:17,320
And then I'm going to work a match afterwards and a great match.

813
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:18,840
The disdain you must have.

814
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,680
And we don't have to belabor the point.

815
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:22,680
We talked about it though.

816
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:28,560
Even last night when the bucks did come made to save Matt Jackson did like a run around

817
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,680
the ring and you could perceive that as, Oh, that's like a victory lap.

818
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:33,680
Cause punk's gone.

819
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:34,680
He did it in Chicago.

820
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:39,480
There was just so much bubbling under the surface here that you can look at that as

821
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,440
punk and be like, I hate this place, man.

822
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:42,440
Like they're immature.

823
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:43,440
They don't know how to do business.

824
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:44,440
I didn't see that.

825
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,440
Hey, you say your boy cash with the Wakanda, right?

826
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,440
You saw your boy cash.

827
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,640
Will it was like, yeah, I'm going to hit that for you.

828
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,000
Do you say he left too?

829
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,000
Right.

830
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,000
You say he left right afterwards?

831
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,000
Second.

832
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,000
You said cash left right afterwards.

833
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,040
You saw him in the, getting in the car after the show.

834
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,040
That was the beginning of the show.

835
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,040
That was the beginning.

836
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,360
We got to the, we got to the building super late.

837
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,440
We got to the building like six 40.

838
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:13,760
I built time of course for collision was at seven central time.

839
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,160
And Matt is like, that's cash.

840
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,840
And I'm pulling into like the parking lot.

841
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:19,840
I was like, whatever dude.

842
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,480
He's like, no, he always thinks somebody looks like somebody like that's like his thing.

843
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:24,480
Anybody he's ever seen.

844
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:25,720
He's like, Oh, doesn't he look like Drake?

845
00:44:25,720 --> 00:44:28,640
Oh, doesn't he look like whoever.

846
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,880
So he said, I was like, yeah, I'm like, sure, Matt, the show starts in 20 minutes, but

847
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,440
cash willer is over.

848
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:34,440
He's like, no, I'm serious.

849
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,600
So we get out the car.

850
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:42,760
We bark, we walk and I don't know, I don't know if it was an Uber or what, but he gets

851
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,280
in the back seat of this car and they're driving.

852
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,800
I'm like, well, I know he's not booked to work tonight.

853
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,840
He didn't have any bags with them, but it was 100% him.

854
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,240
So I don't know where he went before the show, but he showed up.

855
00:44:55,240 --> 00:44:56,600
Oh, he went to go load up.

856
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,600
He went to go load up.

857
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:04,840
Oh, we, Oh, y'all fire punk.

858
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:05,840
Okay.

859
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:06,840
I'll be right back.

860
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:07,840
That's crazy.

861
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:08,840
Um, but no, I think, sorry.

862
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:25,560
Uh, phone calls will be made from WWE or from CM Punk to WWE and we'll see how that plays

863
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:26,560
out.

864
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:33,280
But I do know for a fact, there are people in WWE that does not want him there.

865
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,440
High profile talent that do not want him there.

866
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:37,920
That's a shoot.

867
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,980
So Triple H always talks about what's best for business.

868
00:45:39,980 --> 00:45:44,080
Is it best for business to keep him away from WWE or is it best for business to have him

869
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:45,620
come into WWE?

870
00:45:45,620 --> 00:45:49,680
But there will be conversations for sure on that front, but I can guarantee we won't have

871
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,400
to worry about any of this type of stuff happening if he went to WWE.

872
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,280
Last thing on punk and then we can move on.

873
00:45:55,280 --> 00:46:00,920
Uh, Wade Keller had a PW torch update and this is really interesting.

874
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,800
Says here, there's more about the CM Punk situation that has not gotten out yet and

875
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:09,280
could come up at some points.

876
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:14,440
Keller talked about the incident between punk and con that Tony only told people about.

877
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,320
He said, my understanding is that there was something behind a closed door also that may

878
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,960
come out or may not, depending on how all this plays out.

879
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:25,000
When punk quit and shoot out Tony, there was an element of that, that was not in front of

880
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:31,880
dozens of people that others have said they're trying to get confirmation on, but I'm confident

881
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,520
in based on my sourcing, which I won't get into.

882
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:39,160
I think there's other elements other than it was just monitors.

883
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:43,160
The closed door incident is separate from what happened in front of witnesses as was

884
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,600
described on the internet.

885
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:51,840
So if you let way tell it, there was another piece of this and maybe that is where Tony

886
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,280
con states that he felt like his life was in danger.

887
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:59,120
See and when he said life is in danger, I thought he meant like death threats of like

888
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:00,440
fans.

889
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,000
I didn't know he meant like literally.

890
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,000
Oh no, no, no, no.

891
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,000
He was on ball back stage.

892
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,000
Yeah.

893
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,000
Wow.

894
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,000
Wow.

895
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,000
You know what?

896
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,880
I think there might be some HR terms to that.

897
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:16,440
Cause I, to be honest with you, I was involved in a situation to where, uh, there was somebody

898
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,600
who left a job, right?

899
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:27,000
And they had source that, Hey, I feel that they say my life was in danger.

900
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:33,160
It's just something about my personal securities is risks or something of that nature.

901
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:34,160
And we're like, what the hell?

902
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:35,960
Like, ain't nobody going to go beat your ass.

903
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:36,960
Nothing like that.

904
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:37,960
What's going on?

905
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:38,960
Right.

906
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:48,560
But that's that one phrase allow that team member to leave and not be held accountable.

907
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:53,360
It's like, it's one of those terms to where you, if you say this, my life is in danger

908
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:58,000
or my life, you, you have, it gives you liability or it doesn't give you the ability to make

909
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,120
a certain action.

910
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:04,560
So at the end of the day, who knows, but I'll say the answer to the question about if punk

911
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,000
can go to WWE, I 100% agree with you, Matt.

912
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,000
This stuff would happen in WWE.

913
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:14,400
Cause they have a strong leadership and support staff there that wouldn't allow him to get

914
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:15,400
that way.

915
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:16,400
Right.

916
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,040
Cause we, they have a plenty of people who don't get along there.

917
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,040
Right.

918
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:20,040
There's a Charlotte and Becky got into an incident.

919
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:21,040
Right.

920
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:26,240
That was the, the probably the biggest beef that we knew of in their recent memory.

921
00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:27,240
Right.

922
00:48:27,240 --> 00:48:31,680
But you saw that live on the raw.

923
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:32,680
Oh yeah.

924
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:33,680
Real life.

925
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:34,680
Yeah.

926
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:35,680
We saw that live and they worked like another match in this week.

927
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:36,680
Right.

928
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,920
And it was kind of like, all right, it's put the bed.

929
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:40,920
Right.

930
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:45,600
So, but I do remember, you know, punk saying that, you know, WWE took his joy of wrestling

931
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:46,600
from him.

932
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:47,600
Right.

933
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,320
And he thought that wrestling for WWE was more of a job.

934
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:52,880
And prior to that, it was fun.

935
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:53,880
Right.

936
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,480
So that has to be in his back of his mind as well, that this company took so much of

937
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,480
the joy away from a career that he loved.

938
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:00,480
Right.

939
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,760
And he thought he was going to regain that in AEW.

940
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:03,760
And he did.

941
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,840
And he did for a short time, right.

942
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,320
Until it hit the fan.

943
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:12,720
Um, and I think Rodizia is a hundred percent correct that, you know, he felt that, Hey,

944
00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:14,880
in this moment, I took these things from WWE.

945
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,280
I was putting situations that they want to be in.

946
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,320
Never again am I going to have, let somebody put my back against the wall.

947
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,440
And that hardened him to the situation.

948
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,240
But at the end of the day, he should be more professional and more mature to be able to

949
00:49:27,240 --> 00:49:28,880
navigate through those waters.

950
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,040
Period.

951
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:36,600
And I think if he were to go to WWE, he would have the leadership and structure in place

952
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:41,000
that would, that would let him, um, splash out like that.

953
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:42,000
Right.

954
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,000
And if he did, it'd be consequences.

955
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,960
And he would know that firmly before he signed with the company.

956
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,960
And there you go, and you know why he knows it because you ain't top dog here.

957
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:49,960
Right.

958
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:50,960
You're one of the top dogs.

959
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:51,960
Yep.

960
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:52,960
Roman Reigns, the top dog.

961
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:53,960
This is Roman's place.

962
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:54,960
This is Roman's house.

963
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:55,960
Cody Rhodes.

964
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:56,960
This is Cody Rhodes' new house.

965
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:57,960
You know what I'm saying?

966
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,200
Like you can't, you can't get, you ain't getting on no press conference after Royal Rumble

967
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:05,600
with, with a Triple H sitting there doing anything like you did.

968
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:06,600
No, Taker, Taker will take him out.

969
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:07,600
Not Taker, I'm sorry.

970
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:08,600
Triple H should take him out.

971
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:09,600
Yeah, that's not good.

972
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:10,600
He knows it.

973
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:18,160
Once again, Triple H is totally, and this is no slight to Tony Khan, right?

974
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:25,160
Um, but if CM Punk was sitting next to Triple H and he was trying to have that same kind

975
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:29,760
of conversation during that scrum, Triple H would not let that, that fly.

976
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,240
No, that would not happen.

977
00:50:31,240 --> 00:50:32,240
It wouldn't happen.

978
00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:35,480
But to be fair, Triple H has been around the business 30 plus years.

979
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:40,280
Tony Khan is only now going on his fourth year or fifth year as he'll learn from this,

980
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,440
you know, and hopefully nothing like this ever happens again.

981
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:48,800
Hopefully for us outside of Wednesday, because we know if let the internet tell it, we're

982
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:53,280
going to be able to dissect Punk's speech or statement and we can have that conversation

983
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:54,800
on Wednesday's pod.

984
00:50:54,800 --> 00:51:01,080
Hopefully for us, unless we're talking about after that, oh man, Punk can sign the WWE.

985
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,840
The Punk conversation like this is gone.

986
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:04,840
This is not.

987
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,240
Hey, I wouldn't mind it though, Matt.

988
00:51:06,240 --> 00:51:08,520
I wouldn't mind, I wouldn't mind seeing them back in WWE.

989
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:13,080
Cause I kind of, cause I kind of feel like he like, all right.

990
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:19,240
So he had his last match was at with, with Samoa Joe, which like, I didn't know anything

991
00:51:19,240 --> 00:51:22,920
and anything was going on after watching that match.

992
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:23,920
Right.

993
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:25,720
So he had a great match.

994
00:51:25,720 --> 00:51:30,240
He won the match, but as a fan, like he can't go out like that.

995
00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:31,240
Right.

996
00:51:31,240 --> 00:51:33,560
I need him to go out in a positive manner.

997
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:38,480
Even if he has like a short term contract with WWE, like maybe it's a six month contract,

998
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,520
maybe it's a year contract.

999
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,440
Like they have some parameters.

1000
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,880
He gets to work with certain talent, et cetera.

1001
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,640
And then he leaves the business in a positive note and maybe he has such a great experience

1002
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:50,920
that he stays around long enough.

1003
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:51,920
Right.

1004
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:57,320
Because at the end of the day, Hogan left the company under extremely bad terms, came

1005
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:58,320
back.

1006
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,600
Warrior came back a thousand times.

1007
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:01,600
Like, right.

1008
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:02,600
Sable.

1009
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,600
Oh, Brett is the biggest one.

1010
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:05,600
Right.

1011
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:06,600
Sable.

1012
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:07,600
Like Sable.

1013
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:08,600
Like Goldberg.

1014
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:09,600
Oh, I know these guys.

1015
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:10,600
Goldberg.

1016
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,080
These guys always, because the only person that didn't come back, you know, Guy Rizzo

1017
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:15,600
as Macho Man Randy Savage.

1018
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:22,160
And we never find out what, we never knew what the real beef was between Vince and he.

1019
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:23,160
Right.

1020
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,440
So do y'all think it was because he slept with Stephanie?

1021
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,400
I think we know who it was from.

1022
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:28,960
Were they smoking or fire?

1023
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,520
What it is or no?

1024
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,360
I'm going to say yes.

1025
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,640
And there's a big age gap between the two of them.

1026
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,640
I mean, that man will be in jail though, because she was a minor at that time.

1027
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,640
I'm guessing not, because that never came up.

1028
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:42,960
I don't know how the math would work.

1029
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:43,960
That was a rumor.

1030
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:44,960
Right.

1031
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:49,240
But she was, she was, she, she had been a minor back then.

1032
00:52:49,240 --> 00:52:50,240
In 93?

1033
00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:51,240
Yeah.

1034
00:52:51,240 --> 00:52:52,240
Whatever that was.

1035
00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:53,240
A minor?

1036
00:52:53,240 --> 00:52:54,240
Under the age of 16?

1037
00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:55,240
Yeah, she had been like 15.

1038
00:52:55,240 --> 00:52:56,240
Yeah.

1039
00:52:56,240 --> 00:52:59,240
She had at least been like maybe 16, maybe.

1040
00:52:59,240 --> 00:53:02,840
16 is a consent age.

1041
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:03,840
Depends on the state though.

1042
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:04,840
Hmm.

1043
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:05,840
Interesting.

1044
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,320
But that was, that was the big rumor.

1045
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,640
That was like, that's why he wouldn't, he never came back.

1046
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,400
All right, let's move on.

1047
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,840
Let's have some fun with the payback.

1048
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:22,240
So we talked about the show and I, I jokingly called it In Your House because it was one

1049
00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:27,560
of those shows that I felt like just from a car perspective, it was a missable show.

1050
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,120
We said, Hey, we knew that the work would be good.

1051
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:35,800
It's so WWE, PLL, the work is going to be good in the ring.

1052
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:42,160
Did the show for you earn the name payback or are we still calling it In Your House?

1053
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:43,160
I got to be honest with you guys.

1054
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,120
I was really surprised.

1055
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:46,640
I really enjoyed the show.

1056
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:47,640
Okay.

1057
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:48,640
So you said, I got to be honest with you.

1058
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,640
So did it mean you've lied for the last 40 minutes on the pod or?

1059
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:56,240
It's been a couple, it's been a couple of caps, a couple of caps.

1060
00:53:56,240 --> 00:53:59,760
But a couple of caps, but this was a really great show.

1061
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,320
I didn't think I would enjoy it.

1062
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:06,680
I thought it was a great show starting with the Becky and Trish match.

1063
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,760
Guys, they put on a nice little match.

1064
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,120
Hold on a second.

1065
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:12,120
Hold on a second.

1066
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,800
You know what I got to do.

1067
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,280
You know what I got to do.

1068
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,040
I just got one question.

1069
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,960
Becky Lynch, Trish Stratus.

1070
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,760
Where the hell has this been for the last five months?

1071
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:29,760
Oh my God.

1072
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,160
They saved it off his match.

1073
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,760
Boy, did they kill.

1074
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,920
How clean was the match bro?

1075
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,200
Super seated expectations.

1076
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,560
I knew the match would be okay to good.

1077
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,560
I'm like, I didn't, I just the blow off.

1078
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:45,560
It has to be.

1079
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,920
I'm like, it just has to be man.

1080
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:56,000
We are talking about a legit match of the year candidate, a legit match of the year

1081
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:57,000
candidate.

1082
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,000
Oh my God.

1083
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:06,920
That's the spot where Trish was hanging off the top of the cage and her head's like, oh

1084
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:07,920
my God.

1085
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,600
Like, you know, like man, like just as the skill it took for her to hang there and not

1086
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,880
fog, you know, if she, someone could have went to ride, she would have fell right on

1087
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:15,880
her head.

1088
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,200
And then you're talking, and then you transition that into the superplex.

1089
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:20,200
They did it.

1090
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:21,200
They did it.

1091
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:27,400
I love the Zoe Starks interference and it didn't cost Becky the match.

1092
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,280
And now they made my girl Trish is by herself.

1093
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,440
Hey, let me ask you, hold up Matt.

1094
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,920
Was that the best superplex you've ever seen?

1095
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,240
What's up there?

1096
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:37,240
Was it up there?

1097
00:55:37,240 --> 00:55:41,440
Uh, no, I've seen some incredible ones.

1098
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,320
Uh, Orton has given some incredible ones.

1099
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:44,760
Sean has given some incredible ones.

1100
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:50,120
I mean, no, it's not one of the best ones, but it was, it was very impressive.

1101
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:51,120
It was very impressive.

1102
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,220
Rene's is, I think you may be out on an island.

1103
00:55:53,220 --> 00:55:54,840
You say you don't think it was match of the year.

1104
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,520
I do not think it was match of the year.

1105
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:57,720
I thought it was an incredible match.

1106
00:55:57,720 --> 00:56:01,280
When you say match of the year candidate and the reason, okay, let me take that back.

1107
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:05,640
The reason why I don't think it is for me, just because the first few minutes did start

1108
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:10,440
off very slow and looking back at the entire match, it probably was just their fill in

1109
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,680
a mouse, probably Trish's way of telling the story.

1110
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,160
Hey, we're going to build up to it.

1111
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:15,720
Cause once they took off, they took off.

1112
00:56:15,720 --> 00:56:18,560
I give that match an A plus, but again, I'm not going to say match of the year.

1113
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:22,680
Cause in the beginning few minutes of the match, I was like, Oh, I was a little worried

1114
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:27,760
because a lot of Becky took a lot of beating Trish didn't get any interactive with the,

1115
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,400
with the Latin, the ladder, the cage at all.

1116
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:35,320
So I was worried in the beginning that this was going to be just what I thought they were

1117
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:36,400
going to do.

1118
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:40,480
But then when they picked up, it definitely picked up the old Majas they did to Victoria

1119
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:41,480
and to Lita.

1120
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,640
I thought it was great storytelling.

1121
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:47,080
So I thought it was a really great match, not match of the year candidate, just because

1122
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:48,560
I was worried in the very beginning.

1123
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:49,560
Yeah.

1124
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,440
I don't know about match.

1125
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:52,440
I can't argue with somebody.

1126
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,120
I don't know about a match of a match of a year.

1127
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,080
I don't know about that, but it was a really good match though.

1128
00:56:56,080 --> 00:57:01,520
It was probably one of the better women's matches that I've seen in some time.

1129
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,040
Cause I was invested.

1130
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:09,360
And so full disclosure, when he, when this came on, I'm like, all right, this is modding

1131
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:10,360
time for me.

1132
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,680
I'm putting on, you know, something pop up.

1133
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,000
I'll take a couple of notes here and there.

1134
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,640
This is modding time.

1135
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:19,880
It's just kind of background noise, but I literally stopped what I was doing at some

1136
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:20,880
point.

1137
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:21,880
I'm not sure when I did.

1138
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:23,400
I'm not sure what I was doing.

1139
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:27,240
And I had my full attention on this match from start to finish.

1140
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,280
I was fully invested in it.

1141
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:34,560
And I haven't been felt that way in a full women's match in quite some time, especially

1142
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:35,840
for these, these gals.

1143
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,760
Cause I wanted more out of the show, out of their feud, I should say.

1144
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,720
I just felt like no treasure's a hill.

1145
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,000
I felt she was doing a great job.

1146
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:44,120
I'm a fan of Becky.

1147
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,880
I think Becky looks the best she's ever looked.

1148
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:48,680
I had a lot of high hopes for the few.

1149
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:52,640
Um, and as Matt and I talked about previously, like, look, we're looking forward to this

1150
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,280
thing being over.

1151
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:58,400
So for me to get full of investments, this match was really something for me.

1152
00:57:58,400 --> 00:57:59,400
Great, great match.

1153
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:06,960
Best women's match by far since Charlotte and Rhea at WrestleMania, night one, we know

1154
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:13,720
that, uh, are we going to assume we're going Zoe Trish next?

1155
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:14,880
I was, I was, I called it.

1156
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:19,120
I was right on Becky and Tiffany and I am so here for that.

1157
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:20,120
So here for that.

1158
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:21,680
Tiffany looks just like a star.

1159
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,280
That's going to be really good.

1160
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:29,100
That's going to escalate like her, um, development and being able to come up on the main roster

1161
00:58:29,100 --> 00:58:32,640
and actually stay there and be in, just develop more into her role.

1162
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,320
Being able to have Becky there with her.

1163
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,320
You're driving more reviewers to NXT.

1164
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,040
You want to make NXT even better with Becky being there.

1165
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:40,640
I think that that is a beautiful call.

1166
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:45,120
Because this right now, there's nothing really else for Becky to do on the main roster on

1167
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:46,120
Raw.

1168
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,200
Uh, so do you think you guys think it's Zoe and Trish?

1169
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:54,720
It gotta be like immediately, or do we see Trish gone for a while and or what?

1170
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:59,720
While I think is relative, but I don't even know the name of Zoe's move.

1171
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:03,280
I don't want to call it the go to sleep, but she made Trish like go to bed bad because

1172
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,720
that was nasty at the end of last night.

1173
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:10,320
Um, man, my girl all laid out and I'm just sitting here like, we see Trish for a while.

1174
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:15,600
She could still like when seeing her later, like I was a hold on.

1175
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:16,600
What y'all trying to say?

1176
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,480
Yeah, like that, that move was sick.

1177
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:23,480
Like she, Zoe was like, I apologize afterwards, but you about to eat all of this.

1178
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:24,480
All of it.

1179
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,080
That's the way you take it.

1180
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:30,400
Everybody, everybody in the locker room, because that move has not really been taken the best

1181
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,360
since Zoe's been on the main roster.

1182
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:33,360
That's how you take it.

1183
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:34,360
Yeah.

1184
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:35,360
Cause I'm like, wow.

1185
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,160
Like that's, she, I thought it was a whole different move.

1186
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:40,800
Cause I'm like Zoe's saying like the best move I've ever heard.

1187
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,360
Like, you just got to get her get back on that for sure.

1188
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:44,360
For sure.

1189
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:49,760
Again, relative as far as soon I within by the end of October.

1190
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:50,760
Yeah.

1191
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:51,760
So within a few weeks, I think so.

1192
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:52,760
Oh, okay.

1193
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:54,760
What do you think is next for Trish?

1194
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,560
Do you go on Zoe?

1195
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:04,360
I'm not, I don't know if Zoe is over enough now for a few to be in a few with Trish.

1196
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,360
Cause I think that, I think it would be better.

1197
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:11,960
And my hope is more for Trish to kind of go away for a second and come back.

1198
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:12,960
Right.

1199
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:14,920
And maybe getting a few with someone else.

1200
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:20,560
I think, I think they need to kind of get away from the three of them and let them kind

1201
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:21,560
of do their own thing.

1202
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:22,800
Get some momentum back.

1203
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:26,960
I'm not, I'm not really the interest in seeing a face Zoe.

1204
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:27,960
Same.

1205
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:28,960
Same.

1206
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:29,960
Yeah.

1207
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,040
I don't, I don't want to see a face Zoe.

1208
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:33,520
And actually I don't want to see them few right now.

1209
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:37,880
To me, it felt like her hitting her with her finish last night was the period of that.

1210
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:38,880
Yeah.

1211
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:39,880
Hopefully that's, that's why I was hoping.

1212
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:40,880
You said she ended Trish.

1213
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:41,880
Yeah.

1214
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:42,880
I hope, man, I hope not.

1215
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:43,880
Trish got a lot of, hey, thank you Trish.

1216
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:44,880
Thank you.

1217
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:45,880
Thank you for everything.

1218
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:46,880
Thank you Trish.

1219
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:47,880
You did that.

1220
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:48,880
I was mad.

1221
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:52,920
I was, I was getting mad because I was like, she better not take another move off the top.

1222
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,280
But remember last night I was like, Trish, don't do it.

1223
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:56,280
You did it once already.

1224
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:57,280
He's grabbing the pot.

1225
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:58,280
Thank you.

1226
01:00:58,280 --> 01:00:59,280
Thank you Trish.

1227
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:00,280
Thank you.

1228
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:01,280
I'm like, don't do it.

1229
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:02,280
Don't do it again, Trish.

1230
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:03,280
Don't do it.

1231
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:04,280
Please.

1232
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:08,480
Do you, you've shown that you can go, you can do a steel cage match.

1233
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,280
What's next?

1234
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:14,640
Hey, so let me, real quick, is this yes or no real quick?

1235
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:19,800
Was this the, the best, was this the best women's match of the year?

1236
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:27,220
Again, what Matt said about Rhea, I mean, Charlotte, that was at Mania, that was pretty

1237
01:01:27,220 --> 01:01:28,960
epic.

1238
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:32,760
I don't know.

1239
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:34,120
Try between those two.

1240
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,440
If they argue, then I can argue.

1241
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,140
Outside of...

1242
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,040
Bianca had a fantastic match earlier this year.

1243
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:51,800
I can't remember who it was against.

1244
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:54,900
Her and Eel was really fun at backlash.

1245
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,320
Yeah, that was a good match.

1246
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:00,440
It's top two or three.

1247
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:04,600
I think it might have been my top.

1248
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:11,040
But speaking of top guys or top guy, Sean Seen is back.

1249
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:15,280
Right. We had him as the host of Payback.

1250
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,000
It was funny.

1251
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,600
When he came out, I was like, dude, you're like 20 minutes too late, man.

1252
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:22,080
You should have started the show.

1253
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:23,760
You should have started the show as the host, right?

1254
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:25,000
Edie's coming out and I'm the host.

1255
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:26,600
Like, man, look, we already got a match in.

1256
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:28,360
Like, dude, we just...

1257
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:29,560
I didn't think that was weird.

1258
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:30,560
I didn't think that was weird.

1259
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:31,560
I'm like...

1260
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:33,640
You should have introduced the show, right?

1261
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,080
Like in a video package or something, but we didn't get to see him.

1262
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:41,240
But we saw, of course, why, because it led to him referring to Miz.

1263
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,080
But when he came out, I was like, dude, uh-uh, this is late.

1264
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:45,880
I'll tell you what was funny, though.

1265
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,360
And it like legit popped me.

1266
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,240
I laughed pretty hard when he told Miz, you still got it.

1267
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,080
Once again, I'm guessing, especially those two guys,

1268
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,200
they're not talking over word for word, their promo in the back.

1269
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,280
They're gonna go out there, we're gonna set the match up.

1270
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,840
And for him just to like laugh and kind of say like, you still got it.

1271
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:06,520
I thought that was really good.

1272
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:15,160
Before we get to, before we get to, before we get to LA Night and Miz

1273
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:23,080
wrestling, let's rewind 48 hours ago to the promo battle of Miz and

1274
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:24,480
LA Night on SmackDown.

1275
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,560
LA Night, everybody knows I am a massive LA Night fan.

1276
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:35,880
You're not, you are not disguising anything with me, sir, with your line

1277
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:41,000
to Marissa about if you can't take care of her, she can call me, whatever

1278
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:48,360
that line was, you are not using that line to show the real that Miz gave

1279
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:51,680
it to you and handed you your ass again on the microphone.

1280
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:54,680
But that was all you could do.

1281
01:03:54,680 --> 01:04:00,440
And I thought it was even clearer on Friday that Miz smoked him than it was

1282
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:02,640
the first time and I thought Miz smoked him.

1283
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:07,680
And there's nothing wrong with losing a promo battle to the Miz on the

1284
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:08,280
microphone.

1285
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:13,040
Miz is one of the best talkers we've ever seen in wrestling, but he got him again.

1286
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:18,560
And I was like, this is really, really interesting because the Miz is making

1287
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:19,200
him work, man.

1288
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,200
He is really, really making him work and he is pushing him.

1289
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:24,000
So I just wanted to bring that up.

1290
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,200
What did you guys think about their promo exchange on SmackDown?

1291
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:28,600
You nailed it.

1292
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:33,000
Once you got to talk about somebody's mom or wife, it's usually like you kind

1293
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:34,480
of concede a defeat at that point.

1294
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:36,080
Cause that's the only other thing I can say.

1295
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:39,680
That's the last thing I have my back of dricks to say, okay, well, your wife

1296
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:40,800
can call me if she needs me.

1297
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:44,280
But I think I said this from the gate.

1298
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:48,720
Like I don't know if, well, I haven't seen Eli Knight on this level, right?

1299
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,160
But I don't know if he's a battle rapper, right?

1300
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,920
Like, like he, like, you know, you got them good, them dudes that can make a

1301
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:57,920
nice song and you know what I'm saying?

1302
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:01,440
They can come out a couple of hits, but then you got them battle rappers.

1303
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:03,240
And I don't think Eli Knight is a battle rapper.

1304
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:04,680
Like Miz is.

1305
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,720
Miz been doing this for a long ass time.

1306
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:12,200
So of course he's going to eat him up and he's been doing this for a long time.

1307
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:17,160
He's going to eat them up and he's been doing this at the highest stage for at

1308
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,520
least what like Miz has been out here.

1309
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:21,920
Is it 10 years now?

1310
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:23,680
Way longer than that.

1311
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:27,880
Well, I mean, I mean, like in the, like, you know, he, when he won the, I feel

1312
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,200
like that run he had to the championship.

1313
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,640
The first time is when that's when I count Miz as being like that guy.

1314
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,400
So then you're talking at least 13 years because that was Maynia 28

1315
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,160
with Ben and Cena.

1316
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:40,040
What year was that?

1317
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:40,760
Rock as the host.

1318
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:41,360
That was 28.

1319
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:44,240
So we're on 40 now this year.

1320
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:46,000
So whatever year that was.

1321
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:47,840
Um, so he came in as a champ.

1322
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,440
So you're talking maybe even maybe a year before that.

1323
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,920
So to your point, I mean, he's been doing it a decade plus at the highest,

1324
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:56,960
highest level and, um, you can see the gap.

1325
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,920
You can see, and there's nothing wrong with that, but it was so funny, me going

1326
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:04,040
on social media and watching everybody just gravitate to the Maurice line.

1327
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,440
I'm like, he may have y'all food.

1328
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:10,160
He ain't got me food because the Miz gave it to him.

1329
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:14,120
And then you see last night with Cena and then after Cena told him, like,

1330
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:17,160
you still got it, it was another line that, uh, Miz hit Cena with.

1331
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:22,680
I was like, damn man, like Miz is really good on the microphone.

1332
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:23,880
He's really, really good.

1333
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:24,360
Yeah.

1334
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:24,720
Great.

1335
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:26,960
So what y'all think of the package?

1336
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:29,600
I just want to talk about the end of the match.

1337
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,000
So if y'all want to talk about the middle of the match first, go for it.

1338
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,080
I thought the match was, uh, was better than I thought it would be.

1339
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,880
Cause like, you know, we talk about putting respect on Miz's name.

1340
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:41,800
He doesn't have bad matches.

1341
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:45,040
Um, but I feel like most of the time for me, his matches are just there.

1342
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:49,360
He has that certain style that's okay for me.

1343
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:49,880
Like, right.

1344
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:55,480
I don't, it's, you know, I don't want to say it's borderline skippable at times

1345
01:06:55,480 --> 01:07:00,200
for me, and I feel like, I feel like LA night is wrestles that same type of style.

1346
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:04,200
They wrestled this very, I don't know what to call it.

1347
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:08,040
It's a very, very WWE style, slow pace.

1348
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:09,920
You know, it's deliberate is what it is.

1349
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:12,160
Yeah.

1350
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:13,080
I, yeah.

1351
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:13,760
Yeah.

1352
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:14,440
It's, it's deliberate.

1353
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:17,680
It's a deliberate methodical style match.

1354
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,120
The match was a little bit longer than I thought it needed to be.

1355
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:20,960
Yeah.

1356
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:23,520
Um, not that it drug, I thought the match was good.

1357
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:24,400
I thought it was fine.

1358
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:24,560
Yeah.

1359
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:25,480
I thought it was fine.

1360
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:27,000
It was really solid.

1361
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:28,440
It did what it needed to do.

1362
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:32,520
Um, it was funny because there's a point in the match for watching it.

1363
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:35,760
And you guys may remember, so they're outside the ring.

1364
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:40,520
LA night hits Miz with like a clothesline off the barricade and then he sticks his

1365
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:47,880
poles and he sticks it for like five seconds and Lil Matt's like, man, he must think this

1366
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:49,160
is like a TV match.

1367
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:50,520
That's a go to commercial spot.

1368
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:58,200
And I laughed for like three minutes because it looked just like a commercial, hey, he

1369
01:07:58,200 --> 01:07:59,800
hits it and we go to commercial for three minutes.

1370
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:02,520
And then right after that was with him and Cena went face to face.

1371
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:04,920
I was like, oh shit, he's throwing away his entire face run.

1372
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:06,680
Cause he thinks they're not on TV.

1373
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,400
Cause he does think this is a TV match.

1374
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,400
He's so not used to wrestling on pay-per-view.

1375
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,400
He thought it was a TV match.

1376
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:16,760
And then when they come back from TV in his minds, when he started to come back, I just

1377
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:17,440
thought that was hilarious.

1378
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:20,680
Cause he did see he stuck that pose for a very long time.

1379
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:22,520
Like no lie, no lie.

1380
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,960
Cause when I came back from the bathroom, you was like, oh, just so you know, we just

1381
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:30,120
came back from commercial break.

1382
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,120
You told me the whole story.

1383
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,120
That was so funny, man.

1384
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,120
But we know, so LA night wins.

1385
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:40,120
I did think the other part that was funny, everything that was not supposed to be entertaining

1386
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:40,920
was entertaining.

1387
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:42,120
Don't steal my thunder, Matt.

1388
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,120
Don't steal my thunder.

1389
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,120
Don't steal my thunder.

1390
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,000
We know Cena is very loud when it comes to calling spots.

1391
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:54,680
And LA night had to tell Miz a few times from spots.

1392
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:56,680
It was one time Miz was like, huh?

1393
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:04,120
It was the spot where Miz shoots or an LA night shoots Miz into the corner.

1394
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,280
And then LA night supposed to go kind of over the top of him.

1395
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:07,720
It was a little, go back and watch it.

1396
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:08,440
You'll see it.

1397
01:09:08,440 --> 01:09:10,920
But he tried to call that spot twice.

1398
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:13,960
He said it one time, Miz didn't hear it.

1399
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:15,160
He says it again.

1400
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:20,120
He shoots a man, a little bit of a snafu there, but I die laughing at that too.

1401
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:24,760
I was like, this is hilarious and fantastic for all the wrong reasons.

1402
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:27,160
What would you have done if John Cena had called it for him?

1403
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:29,160
Like, he said it to go over.

1404
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:33,800
We all know Cena's the loudest talker in the history of wrestling.

1405
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:38,760
If you are in the building, you typically can hear the spot that Cena's calling.

1406
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,200
Cena is super loud.

1407
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:42,840
And he has no care in front of his face to cover it or anything.

1408
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:44,520
You just hear all of it.

1409
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:47,560
Body drop, stay down.

1410
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:53,160
Shout to Cena, man.

1411
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:55,400
And then the last thing, I don't know where it is if you're going to say it or not.

1412
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,160
Yeah, do not steal my thunder.

1413
01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:57,960
Take it.

1414
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:04,760
I love, if I could get it out, I loved seeing a damn near killed Miz at the end of the match.

1415
01:10:05,480 --> 01:10:07,800
So I don't know if y'all paid attention because the camera worked.

1416
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:11,240
It was a little bit, Cena pushed the shit out of Miz out the ring.

1417
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:17,000
So much so he had to hurry up and get out the ring to apologize to him.

1418
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:21,880
Because he wanted it to be LA Night spot so he can have the limelight.

1419
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:25,480
But when he pushed the shit out of him, little Matthew, or little Matt was like,

1420
01:10:25,480 --> 01:10:27,080
wait, what just happened?

1421
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:28,120
Like he tried to kill Miz.

1422
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:31,240
Oh my God.

1423
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:32,840
That was, man, that was so funny.

1424
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:33,880
So yeah, the end of the match.

1425
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:38,120
This is now the time of LA Night to hit the ropes and you get the big pop and you get

1426
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:39,400
the awesome camera shot.

1427
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:42,600
And typically that's a camera shot of just the person in the ring.

1428
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:44,920
Miz didn't get out the ring fast enough.

1429
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:47,000
Cena pushed the shit out of Miz.

1430
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,960
And then you see Cena go over to Miz afterwards.

1431
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:53,160
I'm sure he was like, my bad, man.

1432
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,320
But this is LA Night's shine.

1433
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:56,040
This is his time.

1434
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:57,480
I had to get you out the ring.

1435
01:10:57,480 --> 01:11:01,240
But you would have thought, man, it was a real rumble or something the way he pushed

1436
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:01,740
him out.

1437
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:04,120
Oh my God, man.

1438
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:04,840
That was so funny.

1439
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:10,600
And then Cena, of course, gives him the shout at the end in the ramp where they go face

1440
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:12,840
to face and they shake hands and tells him it's his moment.

1441
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:13,720
I thought that was really cool.

1442
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:14,920
But hey, this is your moment.

1443
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:15,880
And then Cena walks out.

1444
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:17,560
But man, Cena is just so over the top.

1445
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:20,840
Even the way Cena grabs his hand and then points to him.

1446
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:22,200
It's like Cena kill, dude.

1447
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:27,320
Cena is the absolute goat of just putting everything over the top.

1448
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:29,480
And that's why he's where he's at now.

1449
01:11:29,480 --> 01:11:32,920
But I could have stopped watching after this match.

1450
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:34,920
Now it would have been a night of entertainment.

1451
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:35,480
You're perfectly fine.

1452
01:11:35,480 --> 01:11:36,280
I could have put the bed.

1453
01:11:37,480 --> 01:11:38,920
Like for real though, like for real for real.

1454
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:45,160
At the end, right when LA Knight goes into the corner to do his thing after he wins,

1455
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:49,560
that's when the camera went back to the ring and you see Miz laying on the ground.

1456
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,600
That was after the fact he got pushed out.

1457
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:54,120
Cena was like, oh shit, let me go check on him.

1458
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:58,840
Now if you go back and watch it, you're going to have a new found laughter about that whole

1459
01:11:58,840 --> 01:11:59,880
moment because he literally.

1460
01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:00,840
Oh my God, man.

1461
01:12:03,480 --> 01:12:05,720
Hey, do you guys think this is over?

1462
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:07,800
What?

1463
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:09,240
He beat him clean.

1464
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:10,120
I don't know why.

1465
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:11,960
Yeah, I don't know why you need to go back to it.

1466
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:13,800
And that's what I was looking at thinking about too.

1467
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:15,080
He beat him clean with his finish.

1468
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:16,760
Time to move on.

1469
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:23,160
Because there's a lot of back and forth with Cena, Miz and Knight they can kind of go back to.

1470
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:25,640
Okay, so let me ask you this then.

1471
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:27,720
Why do you think, what was the point of that?

1472
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,120
They went face to face twice, Cena and LA Knight.

1473
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:34,200
Why would you do that when he's arguably your hottest wrestler?

1474
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:36,280
Well, not arguably, he is your hottest wrestler.

1475
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:39,080
Not maybe the most popular, but he's your hottest wrestler right now.

1476
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:46,200
Why have him go face to face with the legend Cena who's a face right now here only back

1477
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:46,840
for a few weeks?

1478
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:47,960
What's the point?

1479
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:54,280
You know, it may not be a Cena versus LA Knight feud they might be going for.

1480
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:55,640
They might be looking for a team up.

1481
01:12:58,040 --> 01:12:58,360
Right?

1482
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:00,520
Okay, which I mean, anything that can help.

1483
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:03,720
And I'm sure Cena is probably like, who can I help elevate while I'm here?

1484
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:03,960
Yeah.

1485
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:05,080
Right?

1486
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:07,480
Because like the face to face is what's tripping me out.

1487
01:13:07,480 --> 01:13:11,960
Cause I'm like, yeah, face to face who was that will kind of fans like that will hinder

1488
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:12,760
him a little bit.

1489
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:13,000
Right?

1490
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:18,760
But maybe, maybe we get Cena and Knight together versus Miz and somebody else.

1491
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:22,040
Maybe it's Waller, right?

1492
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:24,280
You know, I like that.

1493
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:27,320
Maybe theory comes back because theory has a major beef.

1494
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:28,120
He killed his career.

1495
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:32,520
He didn't even import theory.

1496
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:34,280
Wasn't that the next match?

1497
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:35,320
That's the next match.

1498
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:36,280
That's the next match.

1499
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:38,200
I led you right to it, baby.

1500
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:42,200
Man, I'm sure theory was like, dude, you could put LA Knight over like that.

1501
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:44,200
You couldn't put me over.

1502
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:45,240
Anytime down.

1503
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:49,160
Well, this match I didn't care much about.

1504
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:51,080
What y'all think about Ray and LA?

1505
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:52,200
Yeah, like Ray won.

1506
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:53,000
I checked out.

1507
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:53,960
I checked out on this one.

1508
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:56,120
Did you have anything in Rhodesia?

1509
01:13:56,680 --> 01:14:01,560
The only thing I have was, which was noticeable, Austin did Russell with a little bit more

1510
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:04,760
intensity to the point where I felt like I was watching a little bit in fast forward,

1511
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:07,560
like a 1.2 fast forward.

1512
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:11,400
There was some time it was just a little bit more tighter, more like his suplex is more

1513
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:13,560
like a snap suplex to Ray.

1514
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:17,800
So I thought he wrestled faster and with more intensity, which I liked.

1515
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:19,800
But overall, again, I really didn't care either.

1516
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:21,800
But I thought it was, I thought it was a good match, actually.

1517
01:14:22,440 --> 01:14:24,040
But he just moved faster.

1518
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,200
And that's something that I found interesting.

1519
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:28,840
I don't know what, what that means.

1520
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:32,200
If maybe he thought he had to go faster with somebody like Ray, or if he's trying to prove

1521
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,760
that I can go something to himself.

1522
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:35,480
I don't know.

1523
01:14:35,480 --> 01:14:36,680
But I did notice that.

1524
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:41,080
I don't have anything for this match.

1525
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:42,040
It was what it was.

1526
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:44,040
Just whatever.

1527
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:50,040
I don't know what's next for theory.

1528
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:50,840
Yeah.

1529
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:53,960
You know, there's a couple of different things they can do with Ray.

1530
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:58,760
When LA, when LW came out with Ray, I was like, okay, well, they're not turning it around.

1531
01:14:58,760 --> 01:14:59,720
They're not turning it tonight.

1532
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:01,720
Because then that just wouldn't make sense.

1533
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:03,720
But what's next for theory?

1534
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:07,720
He is so miscast, man.

1535
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:12,520
They showed him, well, he actually put it up on Twitter, which maybe he's about to turn

1536
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:16,680
face, but he actually put up a video yesterday, a couple hours before payback, of him meeting

1537
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:17,240
some kids.

1538
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:18,440
He said, meet and greet.

1539
01:15:18,440 --> 01:15:21,720
And like, dude, seems like the nicest guy in the world.

1540
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:22,680
That's sweetheart.

1541
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:25,640
Playing with the kids and doing the eight-town down.

1542
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:28,760
That's the guy that evidently you are.

1543
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:33,480
Because that is not translating to a star on television right now.

1544
01:15:33,480 --> 01:15:35,400
And you look at him and say, dude, this guy has everything.

1545
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:36,600
He's got the total package.

1546
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:37,240
He's got the looks.

1547
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:38,440
He's got the physicality.

1548
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:44,280
He just, he doesn't come across as who he's supposed to be on TV as being that person.

1549
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:46,280
So maybe a face turn comes.

1550
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:50,280
There was an interesting camera shot of him after the match.

1551
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:52,360
Of like disappointment.

1552
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:55,000
So maybe, maybe we see him turn.

1553
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,800
I don't know, but yeah, from a, from match, it was cool.

1554
01:15:57,800 --> 01:15:58,440
Was what it was.

1555
01:15:59,400 --> 01:15:59,960
We can move on.

1556
01:15:59,960 --> 01:16:00,840
If y'all don't have anything else.

1557
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,360
Hey, I wouldn't mind seeing him team up with maybe Waller.

1558
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:07,640
They can have a, they have similar characters.

1559
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:09,560
They had an RA chemistry last week.

1560
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:09,800
Yeah.

1561
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:10,840
On Friday, Friday night.

1562
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:11,240
Yeah.

1563
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:11,880
I tweeted.

1564
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:15,880
I was like, look, is a Grayson Waller and a guy that, or no, I was like awesome theory

1565
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:18,120
and the guy that does awesome theory better than awesome theory.

1566
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:19,800
That's what I think about.

1567
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:21,800
That's what I think about Grayson Waller, man.

1568
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:27,000
I think he's a better Austin theory in every, in every way.

1569
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:34,200
Before we leave Austin theory, I think like back when I, when I first met him or was introduced

1570
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:37,080
to Austin theory, it was an involved and he was a bad guy.

1571
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:39,080
And I remember how great of a bad guy he was.

1572
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:44,600
I just think it's time for him to take that next step in his career development.

1573
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:48,440
And I actually will be all there for a face Austin theory.

1574
01:16:48,440 --> 01:16:50,520
I think, like you said, he has, he looks great.

1575
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:54,840
He has everything that if you had to make them in the shop, boom, this could be your

1576
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:55,800
face of the company.

1577
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:59,800
Maybe not the number one face, but I can absolutely see him being a big face within the company.

1578
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:01,560
And I'll be there all for it too.

1579
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:05,240
He was, he was with Priscilla Kelly and they were money together.

1580
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:06,040
Yeah.

1581
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:06,520
And Evol.

1582
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:07,480
Yeah.

1583
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:11,880
And I think maybe that's probably why he, Sina probably when he told him at Mania,

1584
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:13,000
you know, you not a heel.

1585
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:14,520
That's probably what he whispered to him.

1586
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:17,080
So that's probably just if we fast forward now.

1587
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:17,880
We don't believe you.

1588
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:18,840
We don't believe you.

1589
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:19,160
Yeah.

1590
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:20,200
You need to be a face.

1591
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:22,120
You know, you a face stop acting this like this.

1592
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:23,480
He'll you a face it.

1593
01:17:23,480 --> 01:17:29,080
And it takes so much more to be a good face than it is to be a bad guy.

1594
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:33,960
We know that it's easy to say, Oh, forget you crowd and get a reaction versus actually

1595
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:35,640
coming another way with it.

1596
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:36,360
It's incredible.

1597
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:38,040
And it's hard to make a good face.

1598
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:42,040
We all know that I don't need to bore y'all with that, but if we can get Austin theory

1599
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:44,440
to be a baby face, I will be there for it.

1600
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:47,720
I had to see it guys.

1601
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:49,800
I'm not necessarily here for that.

1602
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:53,320
But you know what I was here for was that a street fight.

1603
01:17:54,040 --> 01:18:00,120
It's still city street fight for the WWE champion, tattoo championships.

1604
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:04,840
What a mess that was guys.

1605
01:18:08,440 --> 01:18:08,920
Goodness.

1606
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:10,920
What a match.

1607
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:13,000
Tell me, man.

1608
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:16,040
Well, give me, give me, give me your impressions on this match, man.

1609
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:19,560
So you guys remember I said, I really looking forward.

1610
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:19,960
This is match.

1611
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:23,000
I know the match is going to be great, but I really don't care just because

1612
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:25,080
Bob a block center, et cetera.

1613
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:27,080
They made me care.

1614
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:32,440
And the match also exceeded expectations and I knew it will be good.

1615
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:34,040
That was.

1616
01:18:36,440 --> 01:18:40,760
That was the most hardcore match we've seen from WWE in years.

1617
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:46,760
And take out Dom with his shoot elbow to KO and splice them right open.

1618
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,640
KO looked like he was in a scary movie from that, that cut open.

1619
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:51,320
Yep.

1620
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:51,720
Yeah.

1621
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:55,640
It was, it was a clean elbow, of course by mistake, but that just shows like with

1622
01:18:55,640 --> 01:19:00,840
those elbow strikes, how easy it is to split somebody open because the KO knew it immediately.

1623
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:06,120
As soon as he did, he touched himself to look and crimson mask as they are used to say on KO.

1624
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:10,360
Surprised by the finish.

1625
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:17,320
I was only be, I was surprised only because I thought the chaos Sammy tag team run with

1626
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:19,400
the titles was very underwhelming.

1627
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:20,920
That's why.

1628
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:25,080
And I'm like, okay, they need like a staple win before they dropped the titles.

1629
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:26,840
And that didn't happen.

1630
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:28,280
Judgment day.

1631
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:35,800
We talk about it a lot, man, but imagine where these guys were a year ago, a year and a half ago.

1632
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:41,400
And now they are walking out of a pay-per-view. Everybody has a title.

1633
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:43,000
You gotta love that.

1634
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:44,200
You have to love that.

1635
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:45,160
And they all deserve it too.

1636
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:46,680
They all absolutely deserve it.

1637
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:51,640
But man, that match, I could see somebody saying that that was their match of the year.

1638
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:52,120
Yeah.

1639
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:53,160
Not, not mine.

1640
01:19:53,160 --> 01:20:00,920
Cause I still think, yeah, I still think maybe the steel cage match was better than that.

1641
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:03,400
I would have to go back and watch maybe.

1642
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:03,960
Hmm.

1643
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:09,240
And it's like, you know, like, I don't know, but they did that.

1644
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:12,520
Those two were the matches of the card for sure.

1645
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:14,840
Two words from our recap of that match.

1646
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:16,360
Beautiful chaos.

1647
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:19,400
You know what you get what is like, what was it called?

1648
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:21,880
The steel city street fight or whatever it's called.

1649
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:24,600
You know, when those type of gimmick matches, which you're going to get, you're going to

1650
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:28,440
get a lot of chaos, you're going to get a lot of spots, a lot of interference.

1651
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,160
Everything was produced so well.

1652
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:33,400
They even had a costume change.

1653
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:35,240
So somebody like me, I love that.

1654
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:39,480
I'm like, hold on, you over here bleeding out for life and you had enough time to switch

1655
01:20:39,480 --> 01:20:42,440
into hockey gear, but just overall beautiful chaos.

1656
01:20:42,440 --> 01:20:43,560
And this is when it's done right.

1657
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:45,640
Bravo to all of them.

1658
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:48,200
And the, the spear Rhea did.

1659
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:51,720
Love it.

1660
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:54,520
Man, how good does she look last night?

1661
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:57,720
Her old China, she did China well.

1662
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:01,400
She is man.

1663
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:01,880
Yeah.

1664
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:04,920
As I started off great tag team match.

1665
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:07,080
And of course I love the ending, right?

1666
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:10,680
Cause I didn't want to see those guys break up and they got all to go.

1667
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:12,920
We talked about them having all to go before.

1668
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:17,240
Like, yo, this, this, these guys, they need to have all the gold to be as dominant of

1669
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:19,000
a fashion as they seem to be.

1670
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:19,400
Right.

1671
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:20,200
Cause they're all over the place.

1672
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:22,200
Great match.

1673
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:27,480
Um, man, and they had so, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I

1674
01:21:27,480 --> 01:21:33,080
felt like it was a great ending because I felt like, man, they had so many runs.

1675
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:37,320
And they were overcoming the run ins one after another, one after another, like,

1676
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:39,560
oh, they're like, this Sammy's going to do this.

1677
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:43,720
Sammy's gonna, gonna win this and fans going to lose again.

1678
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:43,960
Right.

1679
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:46,360
It's about to be over for these guys, man.

1680
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:48,840
Take the L out of, out of love is over baby.

1681
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:53,080
And here comes dirty down out of nowhere, literally out of nowhere.

1682
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:53,240
Right.

1683
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:54,840
Cause I didn't even see them coming.

1684
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:55,160
Boom.

1685
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:57,800
With the money in the money in the bank briefcase.

1686
01:21:57,800 --> 01:21:58,040
Right.

1687
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:01,800
The first time that damn thing won, I mean, uh, won the match for him,

1688
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:07,080
cracked him over the head, paint them one, two, three out of there.

1689
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:11,560
Man, I don't know who produced that match.

1690
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:13,000
I forgot who produced the women's match.

1691
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:17,480
Um, so kudos to them, but whoever came up with that finish.

1692
01:22:19,480 --> 01:22:20,920
Bravo to your point.

1693
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:23,480
Now it was such a smart, logical.

1694
01:22:23,480 --> 01:22:24,120
Finish.

1695
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:28,600
Uh, and then I loved Finn's reaction when he comes to, and he's just like,

1696
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:29,000
what happened?

1697
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:29,240
We won.

1698
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:30,840
It was great.

1699
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:33,160
It was awesome.

1700
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:35,880
Um, definitely, definitely worth.

1701
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:40,600
If we weren't paying, you know, $5 for peacock or 10, whatever it is,

1702
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:47,400
if that was a pay-per-view regular $50, I would say, Hey, order the replay for

1703
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:51,560
that match that that's a match worthy of a, even though you know who won,

1704
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:53,960
you gotta go back and see the entire match and how they did it.

1705
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:55,720
I think it may have been Michael Hayes.

1706
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:56,280
Okay.

1707
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:58,920
I think it was Michael Hayes who, who, who laid out that match.

1708
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:00,840
Get incredible.

1709
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:02,200
Okay.

1710
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:07,560
If you think about up until this point, we had a great opener, right?

1711
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:11,960
I enjoyed the interaction with Sina and Miss, you know, and you know,

1712
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:16,360
we, we, we didn't talk about it briefly, but you know, Sina asking, uh, you know,

1713
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:18,840
Miss for, uh, you know, hosting tips.

1714
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:22,200
I enjoyed that the match was, was, was fine.

1715
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:22,920
It was cool.

1716
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:25,800
I could skip the very mysterious match, right?

1717
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:27,800
But then we get this awesome tag team match.

1718
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:29,560
The match itself was great.

1719
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:30,280
Right.

1720
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:34,840
And then for me as a fan, it was a very satisfying ending by up until this point.

1721
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:37,160
I mean, I'm like, this is a great pay-per-view.

1722
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:42,760
So, um, before we move on, what's next for KO and Sammy and then what's next for Judgment Day?

1723
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:47,720
KO and Sammy can go bye-bye for a little bit.

1724
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:49,000
Um, I don't know.

1725
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:50,440
Uh, y'all want everybody to leave.

1726
01:23:50,440 --> 01:23:51,400
Y'all want Trish to leave.

1727
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:53,000
No, I didn't.

1728
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:57,320
I want Trish to go after Zoe.

1729
01:23:57,320 --> 01:23:57,800
Just for a little bit.

1730
01:23:57,800 --> 01:23:58,360
Come back.

1731
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:02,200
Sammy, KO, they can, um, go away for a month.

1732
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:03,720
I don't want to rematch.

1733
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:04,360
I'll tell you that.

1734
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:05,720
I do not want to rematch.

1735
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:07,720
I mean, again, I don't want to rematch.

1736
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:08,680
I don't want to rematch.

1737
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:09,720
I don't want to rematch.

1738
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:10,680
I don't want to rematch.

1739
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:11,880
I don't want to rematch.

1740
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:13,800
I mean, again, that was the exclamation point.

1741
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:15,080
The probable cause for one.

1742
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:16,280
Yeah, but still.

1743
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:22,280
Because they lost because outside interference, but I don't want to see them again.

1744
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:22,920
No.

1745
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:23,560
Right now.

1746
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:27,320
That was a beautiful, um, writing to the end of the story for them.

1747
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:28,120
Let that be.

1748
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:28,840
That was exclamation point.

1749
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:30,360
JD, uh, with Judgment Day?

1750
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:31,800
Gotta be.

1751
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:33,080
Really, is that maybe Monday?

1752
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:34,520
Yeah, gotta be.

1753
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:35,560
Right?

1754
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:36,040
Has to.

1755
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:37,400
When he showed his allegiance.

1756
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:37,720
Yeah.

1757
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:40,360
He took that table spot.

1758
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:42,440
So terrible.

1759
01:24:42,440 --> 01:24:42,920
Not yet.

1760
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:44,680
Not yet?

1761
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:45,480
Not yet.

1762
01:24:45,480 --> 01:24:45,960
Not yet.

1763
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:47,560
Because he doesn't have a character yet.

1764
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:49,080
We don't know who he is and what he's about yet.

1765
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:53,480
When we started seeing seeds of who, what kind of character he's going to be.

1766
01:24:54,600 --> 01:25:02,120
It has to lead to him joining the group or further fractioning, you know,

1767
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:05,800
Finn away from the group to do something else with him, I'm thinking.

1768
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:10,040
It'll be interesting, but I don't think we know who JD is just yet.

1769
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:17,320
But for KO and Sammy, I wouldn't mind just seeing them go away for maybe like a month

1770
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:18,120
and come back and regroup.

1771
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:25,640
You know, like maybe, maybe the, maybe, you know, the, we were invested in the chase for

1772
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:26,440
the championships.

1773
01:25:26,440 --> 01:25:29,240
And then once they got the championships, it was kind of, and this happens to a lot

1774
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:30,280
of baby faces in general.

1775
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:30,840
Sure does.

1776
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:31,400
Like, right.

1777
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:33,960
It's like, Hey, we're invested in the chase.

1778
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:37,240
And then once they accomplished the goal, it seems kind of cooled off.

1779
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:43,560
So maybe we can get reinvested into the chase and if they get the championship again, maybe

1780
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:49,000
we'll be more, uh, invested in the, in the championship title matches, because I thought

1781
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:53,400
we might be getting some kind of a street profits and chaos, Sammy type of deal.

1782
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:56,680
And that's something we had to talk about another show too, because it ain't working

1783
01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:57,400
for me just yet.

1784
01:25:57,400 --> 01:25:59,400
When I'm seeing them guys yet.

1785
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:04,760
Amen.

1786
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:08,040
But we, that's, that's, that's a long conversation, right?

1787
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:09,800
That's a long conversation.

1788
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:12,040
I think we're 90 minutes in right now.

1789
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:15,240
Put that down on Wednesday because amen.

1790
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:16,280
We got to talk about it.

1791
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:17,160
Amen.

1792
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:22,200
Like, and I thought sitting there Friday, I was like, maybe I'm being overly harsh on

1793
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:25,800
Montez, but amen.

1794
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:27,800
He looked great though.

1795
01:26:28,440 --> 01:26:29,080
He looked great.

1796
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:29,880
Looks fantastic.

1797
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:34,040
Figure out who you are and please stick to it.

1798
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:36,360
You, what are you?

1799
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:37,240
Are you a face?

1800
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:38,040
Are you a Hill?

1801
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:38,920
Are you a tweener?

1802
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:44,360
You can't come out here looking like a million bucks and being menacing and Bobby hyping

1803
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:48,200
you up and then now you're back to joking and like over the top.

1804
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:51,960
Like, hey, but he went on a, a, a Dawkins was right there with them, man.

1805
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:53,880
But hey, let's, let's, let's put to the side.

1806
01:26:54,440 --> 01:26:55,560
We'll talk about it.

1807
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:56,680
We're big fans of those guys.

1808
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:57,320
Right.

1809
01:26:57,320 --> 01:27:02,760
But you did mention he, um, Hey, you know, he got the KO and Sammy got the title.

1810
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:07,160
And then it was like, all right, well, hey, the chase a lot of times is better than

1811
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:08,280
when you become a champ.

1812
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:11,640
Cody was up next on the Grayson Waller effect.

1813
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:17,400
And I think they did him perfectly by not giving him the title, but it's just me.

1814
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:17,800
Us.

1815
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:20,840
Day one is it's just me.

1816
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:21,160
Us.

1817
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:23,160
Let's go, Jay.

1818
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:23,560
Let's go.

1819
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:24,120
Main event.

1820
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:26,520
Let's try to make some sense out of this.

1821
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:27,000
I loved it.

1822
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:32,040
I loved the segment, but, uh, there could be some plot holes.

1823
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:37,240
We don't have to go too deep because of what I want to get deep into is the Jimmy

1824
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:38,920
smack down.

1825
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:42,920
But before we get to the Jimmy on smack down, let's talk about Jay Cody.

1826
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:47,240
What'd you guys think about Cody cashing in his political chips

1827
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:50,680
and bringing Jay Uso back to the raw brand?

1828
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:53,720
Surprised.

1829
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:57,400
Cause I thought that Jay was a quick quit, but I guess he just quit smack down.

1830
01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:58,120
So there you go.

1831
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:03,480
Well, he also quit WWE, but I thought it was, I thought he quit everything, but then

1832
01:28:03,480 --> 01:28:03,960
whatever.

1833
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:04,440
Us.

1834
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:07,080
It's just me.

1835
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:07,560
Us.

1836
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:09,000
Here's the thing though.

1837
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:13,000
You know, um, you know, when you got a contract, you can't just quit.

1838
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:16,840
So he could say, Hey, I'm quitting smack down.

1839
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:21,000
I'm quitting that will be, but they ain't got to give it to them.

1840
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:25,880
So, I mean, that kind of makes sense, but I thought the segment overall worked out,

1841
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:26,760
worked really well.

1842
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:32,040
Um, you know, Cody came out there and acknowledged the common tropes with these type of shows.

1843
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:32,600
Like, right.

1844
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:36,440
Like you expect me to go down to common trouble with these shows are and what we're going

1845
01:28:36,440 --> 01:28:37,000
to do.

1846
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:37,400
Right.

1847
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:39,480
And while I had, I don't want none of that.

1848
01:28:39,480 --> 01:28:41,640
He's like, I don't want none of that.

1849
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:42,760
I ain't here to fight.

1850
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:43,240
Right.

1851
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:47,240
And then nice, you know, Cody brings out Jay, right.

1852
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:48,680
You know what I did like?

1853
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:54,680
Is that, you know, it wasn't like this big old hug, you know, and smile between Cody

1854
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:55,720
and Jay, right?

1855
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:56,200
Yeah.

1856
01:28:56,200 --> 01:29:01,960
Cody, Cody kind of like, yo, man, you, you know, you put me through it, you know, you

1857
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:03,800
can cross me, you cross me my win.

1858
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:04,200
Right.

1859
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:10,120
It was a perfect acknowledgement of the head nod eye contact of, yeah.

1860
01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:10,600
Okay.

1861
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:11,080
We good.

1862
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:13,400
Cause even Cody was like, Hey, this may backfire.

1863
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:16,200
This may be a dumb decision, but this is what I decided to do.

1864
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:21,720
I guess now they are going to try to hold this off until mania, Jimmy and Jay.

1865
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:22,280
Okay.

1866
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:25,080
Because now they're, they're keeping them apart.

1867
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:32,200
If you're going to put Jay on raw by himself and Jay's got a major opportunity to prove

1868
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:34,120
his worth as a single star.

1869
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:36,840
That was the first thing I thought.

1870
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:38,840
That was the first thing I thought.

1871
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:41,800
And then the music, he had that place rocking.

1872
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:42,440
He did.

1873
01:29:42,440 --> 01:29:44,360
He had that place rocking.

1874
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:48,280
I'm like, if he can keep that momentum up, that's a big shot in the arm for raw.

1875
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:50,680
That's a big shot in the arm for them.

1876
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:54,840
It's going to be interesting to see now though, like this is the first time he's ever been

1877
01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:59,240
away from all of the bloodline.

1878
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:03,480
Cause even when he was hurt, Jimmy went on a singles run years ago, but that was Jimmy.

1879
01:30:03,480 --> 01:30:05,480
I don't think Jay's ever had a singles run.

1880
01:30:05,480 --> 01:30:13,480
So to be able to see him interact where there is no Roman, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

1881
01:30:13,480 --> 01:30:17,160
no Jimmy at all, no Heyman.

1882
01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:19,160
He is completely by himself.

1883
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:21,160
I think that's going to be a lot of fun.

1884
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:22,200
So I'm down for it.

1885
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:24,440
I can see somebody saying like, Hey, this didn't make sense.

1886
01:30:24,440 --> 01:30:24,920
Okay.

1887
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:27,880
I get that too, but I'm all for that.

1888
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:31,720
What I'm not all for though, was Friday we saw on Smackdown.

1889
01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:36,520
I got to get your guys thoughts on, I thought Jimmy did fantastic with everything they gave

1890
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:43,080
him, but in every interaction he had on Smackdown, he was made to look like a chump.

1891
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:45,480
I hated that.

1892
01:30:45,480 --> 01:30:56,120
And then are we back at square one with him wanting back in or getting back into the bloodline?

1893
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:57,240
I don't know.

1894
01:30:57,240 --> 01:31:02,760
I don't know how to answer that one.

1895
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:05,480
I think what it kind of makes sense for him is in one in one regard.

1896
01:31:05,480 --> 01:31:05,960
All right.

1897
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:11,400
So Roman is going to be off TV for some time, but he's still going to be on Smackdown, right?

1898
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:14,120
Solo doesn't have the same Roman contract.

1899
01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:17,480
So they have to do something with Solo.

1900
01:31:17,480 --> 01:31:22,440
So it's kind of natural that there would be some kind of interaction with Jimmy and the

1901
01:31:22,440 --> 01:31:25,000
rest of the old group, right?

1902
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:31,480
It's the, they can't even, so the good thing about getting Jay away from Smackdown is that

1903
01:31:31,480 --> 01:31:33,880
it's kind of like what they kind of try to do with Ray.

1904
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:36,760
Like Ray like, Hey man, look, I'm leaving raw.

1905
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:37,720
I'm going to Smackdown.

1906
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:39,400
I don't want no parts of Dominic.

1907
01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:40,360
That's my family.

1908
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:41,560
We're not doing this.

1909
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:42,120
I'm gone.

1910
01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:42,680
Right?

1911
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:44,040
That's kind of what they're doing with Jay.

1912
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:47,160
Jay like, yo, I don't want none of this family drama anymore.

1913
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:48,680
Y'all can have all this, right?

1914
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:50,440
Bring him to raw, different show.

1915
01:31:50,440 --> 01:31:54,440
He doesn't have to intermingle with those guys on a consistent basis.

1916
01:31:54,440 --> 01:31:54,600
Right?

1917
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:55,640
But Jimmy has to.

1918
01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:57,720
He's on Roman's show.

1919
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:01,000
Like Paul Heyman is going to be there.

1920
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:02,200
Solo is going to be there.

1921
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:06,840
And it wouldn't make, I feel like it would insult my intelligence if he didn't interact

1922
01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:07,720
with them in some type of way.

1923
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:12,680
I do have a question though, when that, I believe that was Smackdown.

1924
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:16,200
When Solo had said to Jimmy, you're not out of the bloodline till we say you're out of

1925
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:16,760
the bloodline.

1926
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:20,840
I thought they already kicked him out the bloodline or was that Jay that they kicked

1927
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:21,960
out the bloodline?

1928
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:28,360
So he just said about insulting intelligence.

1929
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:34,440
I think this storyline is starting to insult our intelligence because Jimmy was the one

1930
01:32:34,440 --> 01:32:39,960
that fired the first shot at Roman with the super kit.

1931
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:41,480
Why are you throwing the one up now?

1932
01:32:43,480 --> 01:32:45,400
I mean, it doesn't make logical sense.

1933
01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:46,680
You were the reason why this started.

1934
01:32:47,480 --> 01:32:50,200
Jay never wanted to break up the bloodline.

1935
01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:50,840
You did this.

1936
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:57,960
And then Jay got down with you and said, if you out, I'm out too.

1937
01:32:59,320 --> 01:32:59,960
Has the match.

1938
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:01,480
They beat Roman.

1939
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:03,320
Now he goes one on one with Roman.

1940
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:05,400
He loses because of Jimmy's interference.

1941
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:08,600
Jimmy cuts promo said, this ain't about the bloodline.

1942
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:09,240
It ain't about Roman.

1943
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:10,040
Roman, you can go to hell.

1944
01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:10,840
It's about my brother.

1945
01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:11,800
I ain't want him turning into you.

1946
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:14,360
Jay super kicks him.

1947
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:15,560
Says I'm out of WWE.

1948
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:19,480
Jimmy comes back and now Jimmy wants to be back down with the bloodline because Solo

1949
01:33:19,480 --> 01:33:22,520
says, you're not out the bloodline till we say you're out the bloodline.

1950
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:23,640
That doesn't make sense.

1951
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:25,560
As much as this.

1952
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:27,160
Jimmy doesn't want to be part of him.

1953
01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:27,960
He said, no, I'm out.

1954
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:30,840
He did until Friday on Smackdown.

1955
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:31,800
Friday on Smackdown.

1956
01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:35,080
Wait, no, he said, no, I'm good.

1957
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:36,280
He walked away from Solo.

1958
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:37,640
No, no, no, no, no.

1959
01:33:37,640 --> 01:33:44,120
So what happened was they had the face off with me and Jimmy, which Jimmy was fantastic with that.

1960
01:33:45,480 --> 01:33:49,640
Then AJ comes to me as the fence and says, hey, we're going to do this thing.

1961
01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:53,240
And then Solo jumps AJ.

1962
01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:53,560
Yeah.

1963
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:58,200
And then he, and then Solo tells Jimmy, you're not out the bloodline till we say you're out

1964
01:33:58,200 --> 01:33:58,920
the bloodline.

1965
01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:01,080
Jimmy then helps Solo beat AJ.

1966
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:04,120
He hugs Solo.

1967
01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:05,240
Oh, you know what?

1968
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:06,520
I didn't see the end of it.

1969
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:06,760
Yep.

1970
01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:09,560
Solo hugs him and then he's about to hit him with the thumb.

1971
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:10,600
He's about to thumb his own cousin.

1972
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:11,480
That's nasty.

1973
01:34:11,480 --> 01:34:12,920
Heyman tells him, no, chill out.

1974
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:13,480
Don't do that.

1975
01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:17,800
They walk away and Jimmy's throwing the one up in the ring as the show goes off there.

1976
01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:20,600
That's not, that's illogical.

1977
01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:25,960
We put this storyline over more than any other storyline in the history of wrestling.

1978
01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:28,440
We got to call BS when it's time to call BS.

1979
01:34:28,440 --> 01:34:31,240
And it feels like they are running in circles now.

1980
01:34:31,240 --> 01:34:37,800
If that's the answer to, let's draw this out until WrestleMania to get to Jimmy and Jay.

1981
01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:39,720
That's horrible.

1982
01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:42,840
That was rough.

1983
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:47,880
That was, I was like, uh-oh, this ain't, this ain't it.

1984
01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:50,840
To me, I was just, I was just confused.

1985
01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:55,240
So seeing main event Jay on Raw was a surprise, like a pleasant surprise.

1986
01:34:55,240 --> 01:35:00,280
What I remember from SmackDown with Jimmy, that was just a little bit, hmm.

1987
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:01,640
Okay.

1988
01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:07,320
Unless you have some master plan behind this that my minuscule mind can't figure out quite yet.

1989
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:08,280
I don't get this.

1990
01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:12,840
You know what, man, like that's these, it's so many wrestling shows.

1991
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:15,800
I swear to God, I thought I finished the rest of that damn show.

1992
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:19,240
I was like, there's so much wrestling that's on TV.

1993
01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:22,040
That's the thing about watching everything, man.

1994
01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:23,880
I can swear to God I watched that.

1995
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:28,760
But now that you guys say that, I didn't see the last, the main event match.

1996
01:35:30,440 --> 01:35:31,480
I don't know, man.

1997
01:35:31,480 --> 01:35:31,720
Look.

1998
01:35:33,480 --> 01:35:35,240
That's all you can say, really?

1999
01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:36,120
I can't cry, man.

2000
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:37,960
This is, this is, uh-uh.

2001
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:39,880
But you know what, here's the thing.

2002
01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:46,920
When I listen to Jimmy's new music, right, which is a remix of Day One, Jay's music is-

2003
01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:48,040
This is me, yous.

2004
01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:49,800
Jay's is another remix, right?

2005
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:51,560
I love Jimmy's music, though.

2006
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:55,160
But it has like, it has a little bit of a, of a romance.

2007
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:57,880
A little element of it, right, along with it.

2008
01:35:57,880 --> 01:35:59,480
Yeah, it's like a little mix.

2009
01:35:59,480 --> 01:36:00,440
Yeah, I watched that.

2010
01:36:00,440 --> 01:36:04,920
But like these, I like both songs, actually, but it kind of makes me sad, man, because

2011
01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:06,280
that's my favorite tag team.

2012
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:08,440
Broke apart.

2013
01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:10,920
I'm like, damn, these guys.

2014
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:12,520
And he says, just me?

2015
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:15,000
I'm like, oh, man, just me, yous.

2016
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:16,600
It's just me, man.

2017
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:19,640
I was thinking, you know, ever since SummerSlam, I thought we were getting

2018
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:20,920
yous in every corner.

2019
01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:29,160
At Survivor Series, do they maybe switch that to Cody and Jay versus Jimmy and Solo?

2020
01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:31,080
Hold on, let's see.

2021
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:33,880
Cody, Jay, Solo, Jimmy.

2022
01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:36,120
At Survivor Series?

2023
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:40,280
So that gives us two months, two full months to get there.

2024
01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:41,480
Okay.

2025
01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:43,240
Yep.

2026
01:36:43,240 --> 01:36:47,400
Because again, because we're landing on, we're staying with Cody going against

2027
01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:49,800
Roman and Mania, right?

2028
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:51,400
Is that kind of what we're building to?

2029
01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:52,280
So yeah, I can see that.

2030
01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:52,780
Yeah.

2031
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:55,720
It's very interesting.

2032
01:36:55,720 --> 01:37:01,720
You know, Guy Rizzo, I don't know if Bray was going to be the next challenge for Cody

2033
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:05,240
to overcome, but it doesn't seem like Cody has a storyline currently, right?

2034
01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:08,680
He's kind of just floating in the wind a little bit.

2035
01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:11,640
It'd be interesting if that's what the next step will be for him.

2036
01:37:11,640 --> 01:37:23,160
The bloodline whole few thing here, man, for me, it's kind of unwinded a little bit in

2037
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:23,800
a lot of ways.

2038
01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:31,960
Like with Jimmy, he obviously turned heel on the crowd because we fully are behind Jay

2039
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:33,720
being a babyface.

2040
01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:35,240
We want to see him do well.

2041
01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:37,560
And Jimmy kind of comes in and puts a stop to that.

2042
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:45,400
And in some ways, it's a heel move because he's saying he's doing it to help him.

2043
01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:51,080
But that's just really a heel who's kind of like, you know, trying to explain their

2044
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:52,360
heelish deeds, right?

2045
01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:54,360
So he's a bad guy, right?

2046
01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:57,640
The bloodline, they're still bad guys.

2047
01:37:57,640 --> 01:38:01,640
So I guess it will be natural that they will kind of find themselves back together again,

2048
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:07,560
because they're both evildoers.

2049
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:12,200
It's just that, I don't know, it's just not necessarily hitting for me, but maybe they

2050
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:13,720
can bring Cody back into it.

2051
01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:18,280
We get some Cody and Jay and Jay versus Solo and Jimmy.

2052
01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:20,600
That might be interesting, but I don't know, guys.

2053
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:22,200
I'm just kind of like, I want to wait and see.

2054
01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:26,600
I'm not as hype on the bloodline storyline as I was like, say, you know, four months ago.

2055
01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:27,400
Hell, you can be.

2056
01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:31,480
Because we didn't have plot holes like this before.

2057
01:38:31,480 --> 01:38:36,600
And I know there's a segment of fans that feel like the bloodline story has not been

2058
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:37,960
as good as we think it has.

2059
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:39,080
Sammy brought a ton to it.

2060
01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:40,440
And when Sammy left, it wasn't.

2061
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:43,000
Bloodline story has been fantastic throughout.

2062
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:47,800
It is now at a point where, all right, it's starting to sputter and it's starting to

2063
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:48,760
sputter a little too much.

2064
01:38:49,480 --> 01:38:50,840
Make it make sense, please.

2065
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:54,520
I would appreciate it on Smackdown, but you can't make it make sense.

2066
01:38:54,520 --> 01:38:55,800
This can't make sense.

2067
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:58,360
That last thing I'm going to say.

2068
01:38:58,360 --> 01:39:02,520
Now that he started this entire thing and now he's cool with being back in.

2069
01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:10,040
The only way that I could rectify this right now is that they're purposely trying to keep

2070
01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:14,280
Jimmy under Jay as far as character and storyline.

2071
01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:16,680
That's the only way that this can make sense.

2072
01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:22,280
But if you want to bring them at Mania, they need to be the same.

2073
01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:28,040
But right now, that's the only way that I can again balance this equation is that

2074
01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:33,960
Jay is meant to be a tier A wrestler and you got to build Jimmy to be a tier B.

2075
01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:36,280
And that sucks.

2076
01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:40,440
Everything like once again, everything he did on Friday was great for him.

2077
01:39:40,440 --> 01:39:44,520
He had a really strong promo segment with Cena.

2078
01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:49,320
He was great in the backstage segments, but every single segment he was made to look like

2079
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:51,480
a chump and I didn't like that.

2080
01:39:51,480 --> 01:39:52,680
It didn't make sense.

2081
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:53,240
He's a heel.

2082
01:39:54,680 --> 01:40:00,360
But you also can say he needs the bloodline because look what happened as soon as he

2083
01:40:00,360 --> 01:40:01,480
wasn't around the bloodline.

2084
01:40:01,480 --> 01:40:03,080
He gets chumped out by Cena.

2085
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:04,920
He gets chumped out by AJ.

2086
01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:05,480
You know what I mean?

2087
01:40:05,480 --> 01:40:08,520
You could say that Pierce chumps him out, but that's not...

2088
01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:10,760
He's worked too hard.

2089
01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:16,040
He's been put in too much of a limelight to be one of the top guys in the company for

2090
01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:24,440
two years for that to be his solo segment or the first time of us seeing him by himself

2091
01:40:24,440 --> 01:40:27,480
with his new music, who he is and that's what happens.

2092
01:40:27,480 --> 01:40:29,240
He's super, super dumbfounded.

2093
01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:31,480
But has he been built to be anything other than what we're seeing?

2094
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:34,840
He's never been built to be a chump like that.

2095
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:38,760
He just like, he looked like he came across as a chump.

2096
01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:41,400
I don't like that.

2097
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:43,080
Yeah, I don't like that at all.

2098
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:49,720
But winding down, we got two matches left.

2099
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:53,080
For me, these were good matches, but I don't really have a lot for them.

2100
01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:58,200
We had the Women's World Championship for KO versus Rhea.

2101
01:40:58,200 --> 01:40:59,000
What'd you guys think?

2102
01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:03,000
I really didn't get to see a lot of this match, unfortunately.

2103
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:08,040
So I was really excited for this match.

2104
01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:11,240
It wasn't, I didn't think it was, it was there.

2105
01:41:11,240 --> 01:41:11,880
It was cool.

2106
01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:22,680
So Rhea, in theory, Rhea, Raquel, Seth and Shinsuke was in your house.

2107
01:41:22,680 --> 01:41:26,360
Everything else was payback.

2108
01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:29,960
Everything else was a premium live event, full price show.

2109
01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:32,200
The last two matches, two meet.

2110
01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:33,640
It was solid.

2111
01:41:33,640 --> 01:41:34,920
It was just solid.

2112
01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:38,840
I knew, I see what they were going for with Rhea and Raquel.

2113
01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:41,320
To me, it just didn't make for a great match.

2114
01:41:42,200 --> 01:41:44,280
To your point, E, I don't really have much on it.

2115
01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:49,320
Rhea wins, of course, feature clean in the middle.

2116
01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:52,680
And that was kind of like it.

2117
01:41:52,680 --> 01:41:53,480
I was okay.

2118
01:41:53,480 --> 01:41:56,520
All right, I was kind of expecting a little bit more, but whatever, no harm, no foul.

2119
01:41:56,520 --> 01:41:59,320
And then we get to the main event and it was the same thing.

2120
01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:02,840
And I think even the crowd, the crowd was excited.

2121
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:08,760
It was the same thing and I think even the crowd knew there was no chance of Shinsuke winning

2122
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:13,320
because the crowd didn't get up for some of the spots that I thought they would have.

2123
01:42:13,880 --> 01:42:14,920
And it was the same thing to me.

2124
01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:19,640
It was, that was a really good Raw main event.

2125
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:23,480
That was it.

2126
01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:29,000
I love the promo package they show with the cartoon beforehand.

2127
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:29,800
That was killer.

2128
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:36,920
I think the feud is still going after cameras cut, Shinsuke jumped Seth again.

2129
01:42:37,880 --> 01:42:41,560
So I'm guessing maybe the feud continues, which is fine, which is okay.

2130
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:43,880
Maybe we get some type of gimmick match or something like that in-

2131
01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:45,720
A rubber band match, right?

2132
01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:46,760
No, not yet.

2133
01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:48,920
We're only two in, pal.

2134
01:42:48,920 --> 01:42:50,360
Okay, okay, okay.

2135
01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:52,600
But yeah, I just thought the last two matches were just okay.

2136
01:42:55,000 --> 01:42:56,360
Same, unfortunately.

2137
01:42:56,360 --> 01:43:01,160
Yeah, I did like the ending spot on the women's championship match.

2138
01:43:01,160 --> 01:43:06,600
Dirty Dom comes in there, helps save his woman.

2139
01:43:07,480 --> 01:43:12,760
Right then Ra'Kael showed her strength that she was able to power slam a grown man,

2140
01:43:12,760 --> 01:43:14,760
but that turned into her taking the riptide.

2141
01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:15,400
So that was kind of cool.

2142
01:43:15,400 --> 01:43:19,320
And great sale by Dom too.

2143
01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:20,920
Dom sold out like he got shot.

2144
01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:21,480
Oh yeah.

2145
01:43:21,480 --> 01:43:26,760
It's good, man. Dirty Dom does a good job, man.

2146
01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:33,800
And the tag team, I mean, as you said about the Seth and Naka, I love the video packages.

2147
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:37,240
If they can continue to do video packages like that for Shinsuke, I think they're definitely

2148
01:43:37,240 --> 01:43:39,000
will make him more of a credible heel.

2149
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:43,800
It's just that they didn't have enough time to build him into a credible enough challenger

2150
01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:45,320
to make you think that, okay, he can take the championship.

2151
01:43:45,320 --> 01:43:47,400
That he had a chance to take a championship, exactly.

2152
01:43:47,400 --> 01:43:53,960
I think the street match, Seal Cage or Seal City street match, that's a tongue twister.

2153
01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:56,840
And I think the Seal Cage match, they just sold the show.

2154
01:43:56,840 --> 01:43:58,280
I really feel that way.

2155
01:43:58,280 --> 01:44:02,040
So everything else felt like a letdown because I think if we go back to look at those final

2156
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:06,760
two matches, we probably would have given them a B or maybe an A minus, but it was just

2157
01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:11,560
what we saw in those other two matches just so super exceeded anything I would have thought

2158
01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:14,440
of. That's why I feel this way about the final two matches.

2159
01:44:14,440 --> 01:44:19,000
And I think too, the final two matches, we knew Raquel had no shot.

2160
01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:19,640
Right.

2161
01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:23,720
And then we knew even more that she had no shot when they won the tag titles, judgment

2162
01:44:23,720 --> 01:44:24,680
they won the tag titles.

2163
01:44:24,680 --> 01:44:30,440
That was almost like an ending pay-per-view shot when they had them and they had everything.

2164
01:44:30,440 --> 01:44:31,480
They had all the gold.

2165
01:44:31,480 --> 01:44:35,080
And that shot, I'm like, that would be a way you can end this show.

2166
01:44:35,080 --> 01:44:41,640
It would have been great if maybe they would have done Raquel and Rhea before the tag match.

2167
01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:45,480
Because I told you, I actually saw the matches out of sequence originally.

2168
01:44:45,480 --> 01:44:49,560
I saw the tag team match first because of how they did the replay.

2169
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:54,680
So when I saw Rhea come down and do the spear, well, I assumed she already wrestled her match.

2170
01:44:54,680 --> 01:44:55,400
Got you.

2171
01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:55,880
Yeah.

2172
01:44:55,880 --> 01:45:01,080
Right. Because you wouldn't put her on twice like that.

2173
01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:01,560
Right?

2174
01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:06,120
You wouldn't want to get that initial reaction for her coming out, for her interest in everything.

2175
01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:08,040
I would assume that they already did that when she came out.

2176
01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:09,800
When she came out, they were like, oh, I'm going to do this.

2177
01:45:09,800 --> 01:45:13,000
I assume they already did that when she came out, when she came out and did that spear.

2178
01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:15,960
And so then we got that shot with them holding all the gold.

2179
01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:18,120
I'm like, yeah, that looks like a finishing shot.

2180
01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:19,240
Right.

2181
01:45:19,240 --> 01:45:22,360
Then I'm like, then I actually watched the show back in order.

2182
01:45:22,360 --> 01:45:25,160
I'm like, oh, she hasn't had the match yet.

2183
01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:26,360
Okay, that's interesting.

2184
01:45:26,360 --> 01:45:27,400
It's a good spot for them, right?

2185
01:45:27,400 --> 01:45:28,280
Co-main event spot.

2186
01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:29,640
I get it.

2187
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:32,840
Maybe you don't want to put, this should never be a thing, but maybe you don't want to put

2188
01:45:32,840 --> 01:45:36,760
the women's matches too close together so we don't compare.

2189
01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:37,800
I don't know.

2190
01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:44,920
But when I just knew like, okay, now we know Damien is not going to cash in or even threaten

2191
01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:47,160
to cash in the Money Bank for the main event.

2192
01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:48,680
For me, that was the hook.

2193
01:45:48,680 --> 01:45:50,920
That was the entire hook of that match.

2194
01:45:50,920 --> 01:45:52,440
Because I knew Shinsuke wasn't going to beat Seth.

2195
01:45:52,440 --> 01:45:54,760
I'm like, well, maybe something happens with the briefcase.

2196
01:45:54,760 --> 01:45:59,960
So when the tag team title match happened for me and then you go to the Grayson Waller

2197
01:46:01,640 --> 01:46:06,520
effect and we had Jay, if you would have stopped the show right there, for me, I would have

2198
01:46:06,520 --> 01:46:12,360
been like, man, the show was probably like eight and a half, nine out of 10 with the

2199
01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:13,320
last two matches.

2200
01:46:13,320 --> 01:46:14,520
And once again, they were okay.

2201
01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:15,880
They were just okay.

2202
01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:22,120
I probably have this show at about, I mean, those two matches are really, really strong.

2203
01:46:22,120 --> 01:46:24,680
So I would probably still give it maybe about a seven and a half.

2204
01:46:26,840 --> 01:46:28,600
From what I saw, I'd probably say an eight.

2205
01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:33,400
Yeah, I would give it an 8.5 because like I said, the opener.

2206
01:46:33,400 --> 01:46:39,320
So like we think about it, we joked about this being an in your house card prior to

2207
01:46:39,320 --> 01:46:40,120
watching it.

2208
01:46:40,120 --> 01:46:42,840
So expectations for the show were already kind of low.

2209
01:46:43,480 --> 01:46:48,200
And that's really based on the build and the storylines going into most of these matches.

2210
01:46:48,200 --> 01:46:52,680
And I think the opener with the women over delivered, right?

2211
01:46:53,480 --> 01:46:59,560
I think that then you have the Cena, LA Knight, Miz, very entertaining.

2212
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:03,560
And then you have the tag team match, which is amazing.

2213
01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:04,120
Right.

2214
01:47:04,120 --> 01:47:09,640
It is definitely in the conversation for a match of the year, at least for tag team

2215
01:47:09,640 --> 01:47:10,120
matches.

2216
01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:11,240
It definitely would have had to be.

2217
01:47:11,240 --> 01:47:16,920
And then we had Cody and Jay, right?

2218
01:47:16,920 --> 01:47:22,520
But the last two matches, we knew going into them that they didn't have much behind those

2219
01:47:22,520 --> 01:47:23,720
matches, right?

2220
01:47:23,720 --> 01:47:28,680
Because Rhea is heads and shoulders better than everybody in that division outside of

2221
01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:29,720
Becky and Trish.

2222
01:47:29,720 --> 01:47:33,240
But based on their storyline, we haven't been invested in those two women.

2223
01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:34,840
So Rhea is a killer.

2224
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:39,880
There's nobody coming close to her and Naka, you just can't make him credible enough of

2225
01:47:39,880 --> 01:47:42,600
a title in that short of a period of time.

2226
01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:43,640
So we knew that was it.

2227
01:47:44,280 --> 01:47:49,320
So I think the card and show over delivered up until those last two matches.

2228
01:47:49,320 --> 01:47:55,080
And for me, I was still enough of a positive high to where I was okay with the rest of

2229
01:47:55,080 --> 01:47:55,480
it.

2230
01:47:55,480 --> 01:47:57,080
So I'll give it probably an 8.5.

2231
01:47:57,080 --> 01:48:08,040
Okay, it was funny because I was so high on the show before the last two matches that

2232
01:48:08,040 --> 01:48:10,120
I was like in HP Trust.

2233
01:48:11,480 --> 01:48:13,080
I said that to myself.

2234
01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:18,840
I was like, I got to stop talking about what may not be worth watching and blah, blah.

2235
01:48:18,840 --> 01:48:20,120
And then we got to the last two matches.

2236
01:48:20,120 --> 01:48:22,200
I was like, okay, no, it kind of came back down to earth.

2237
01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:25,480
It came back down to earth a little bit for me with those last two matches.

2238
01:48:25,480 --> 01:48:31,240
But if anybody hasn't seen it, absolutely is worth watching the replay on Peacock.

2239
01:48:31,240 --> 01:48:42,120
I don't think it's a show outside of Poty bringing out Jay and Judgment Day winning

2240
01:48:42,120 --> 01:48:43,160
the tag titles.

2241
01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:47,400
It's not a show that's going to be talked about probably again in WWE.

2242
01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:47,880
You know what I mean?

2243
01:48:47,880 --> 01:48:51,320
Like there's some shows where you keep harkening back to that show.

2244
01:48:51,320 --> 01:48:55,880
I think outside of those two things, there isn't much that they'll go back to and revisit

2245
01:48:57,000 --> 01:49:00,440
either on commentary or from a maybe like a storyline perspective.

2246
01:49:00,440 --> 01:49:01,560
Which is fine.

2247
01:49:01,560 --> 01:49:03,480
Yeah, the show itself can be massive.

2248
01:49:03,480 --> 01:49:05,160
But a couple matches, yes, like you said.

2249
01:49:05,720 --> 01:49:05,960
Yep.

2250
01:49:07,560 --> 01:49:08,360
All right, guys.

2251
01:49:08,360 --> 01:49:11,160
So man, almost two hours and almost half of that.

2252
01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:11,960
Whoo!

2253
01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:14,360
Thank y'all for staying and listening.

2254
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:15,320
Yep.

2255
01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:16,760
So we will be back on Wednesday.

2256
01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:20,040
You guys know, Rhodesia and I will be, of course, at All Out.

2257
01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:23,640
So we'll break that down on Wednesday.

2258
01:49:23,640 --> 01:49:25,000
We'll talk about the Street Profits.

2259
01:49:25,000 --> 01:49:27,320
And I also got a couple other things I want to talk about with you guys.

2260
01:49:27,320 --> 01:49:29,720
Do some fun topics that we can get into.

2261
01:49:30,280 --> 01:49:32,040
And I have a fun topic to talk about too.

2262
01:49:33,320 --> 01:49:34,440
Give us a teaser.

2263
01:49:35,480 --> 01:49:36,760
I guess it's not really that fun.

2264
01:49:36,760 --> 01:49:41,960
It's just comparing the top women in wrestling compared to the top men in wrestling.

2265
01:49:41,960 --> 01:49:44,280
And are they actually better than the men?

2266
01:49:44,280 --> 01:49:47,640
We kind of have like this thing because they're a female.

2267
01:49:47,640 --> 01:49:50,600
So I like to get you out and put on that.

2268
01:49:50,600 --> 01:49:51,400
And that was from Twitter.

2269
01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:52,360
That was a Twitter question.

2270
01:49:55,080 --> 01:49:57,320
It's a deeper question than what it may seem like on the surface.

2271
01:49:59,480 --> 01:49:59,960
Yep.

2272
01:49:59,960 --> 01:50:02,600
That may be something to look at in the E's showing off Trish.

2273
01:50:02,600 --> 01:50:03,720
The sign, Trish Pop.

2274
01:50:04,280 --> 01:50:04,920
We out of here.

2275
01:50:04,920 --> 01:50:08,600
Rhodesia, last time you got mad at me, you started this show off by saying that I cut

2276
01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:09,640
you off last time.

2277
01:50:10,440 --> 01:50:15,000
And I want to make sure I don't do that again this time because I respect you.

2278
01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:15,560
I love you.

2279
01:50:15,560 --> 01:50:16,600
I don't want any issues.

2280
01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:17,240
Thank you.

2281
01:50:17,240 --> 01:50:21,240
Is there anything you need to say to the folks before we get out of here?

2282
01:50:22,440 --> 01:50:24,840
Enjoy this Labor Day weekend for those in the U.S.

2283
01:50:24,840 --> 01:50:25,080
Peace.

2284
01:50:25,080 --> 01:50:55,000
We'll see you guys later.