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[0:00] Let's just let's introduce let's introduce.
So we have two special guests today with us.
We have Brandon and Lara, who are podcasters as well.
They have a podcast called Taking It Too Far and they are hilarious.
They're a husband and wife. And then the guy, Adam, Right? Yeah, he he's your best friend, right? Brandon No, we're don't talk anywhere outside the podcast.
You don't? Absolutely not. So how did that true?
You talk a little bit. A little bit.
So how did you we so we went he went to western.
He was he hated me in high school. He absolutely thought I was a douchey person in the world.
And then we worked together and then he just fell in love with me because as, anybody does, is they first meet me like that dude is a douche.
And then when you get to know me, you're like, Yeah, I kind of like this guy.

[0:54] I'm I'm pretty lovable. Okay, So we know what happened. And then, like, I did a podcast where I was just interviewing people and I was like, Hey, come in one time.
And he came in and I liked our vibe and we, Laura and I, well, that's a long story. Laura and I started a podcast with somebody else, right? And it didn't work out. Yeah.
Laura and I considered starting a podcast, but we knew the demographics wouldn't work, right? Like, they just wouldn't work.
You guys lived too far away from us to be here once a week, a 20 minute drive, or for us to.
It just wasn't going to work. Yeah, she's busy. I didn't when she when you guys talked about that, I was like, You're not doing that. Right? Right.
Anyways, we brought him in. Okay? And that's how you fell in love with him to, then? Yeah, I love the guy. I mean, don't get me wrong, because the banter is good, right? I can just fuck with him, right?
He's okay with that? Yeah, he likes it. He even said it on our last episode. I like it like OC.
Yeah, like it. It is what it is. So we have Brandon and Laura who are a married couple, and they do know it was a perfect story.
Was perfect. Well, you can be as long as you want here.

[1:55] And they're a married couple. And so since it is the season of love, Jonah and I thought it would be fun to do a bunch of shit about love and a bunch of stuff about, like, and not love. Right?
So what better way to bring on our fellow podcasters a married podcast and married podcasters to tell us their story?
So we So if you missed it a minute ago, if I edited that part out, then tell us. So how did you guys meet?

[2:26] We did door to door sales in Florida, and he was somebody that everybody said was a dick.
And I never got that vibe from you. You know, everybody was like, Oh, that guy doesn't remember anybody's name.
He is somebody that like, just he's one of those people that are like, oh, you you know, you have to be here at least two weeks for me to know your name like one of those.
That's true, though, because that was an in-and-out place like there was.
What did you sell? Selling AT&T, U-verse. U-verse. So they didn't tell people that when they hired me, they'd be like, doo doo doo doo doo.
They we. They sold us a dream. Yeah, It was brainwash. It was brainwashing. You crazy?
I've been there. We were meant to do that. To meet each other, I swear. That's it. That was the only reason we were there. Because I had never done sales. She never done sales.
I was on my way to move back to Pennsylvania, and I got this email that said, I got a job interview, and I was like, okay, I guess I'll move.
I guess I won't move back. I guess I'll just go for a vacation and come back.
And then I called and they were like, Well, we didn't send you an email.
We don't send out emails, but come in for the interview.
Like, come in. They take like, Oh my God, Och, but I needed a job so bad.
So I was like, I'll do anything.
All right, I'll take the job. I don't care what it is.

[3:53] Okay, so it just happened to work out.
But I mean, how in the world did I get this email? Like, Yeah, like, I don't understand.
Like, she walked out and send out emails. She walked out for that interview because they did weird things for interviews, like you'd come in and then we're all dressed up like suits and dress dressed up nice, and then they'd take you to a coffee shop and interview you, which is the weirdest fucking setup ever.
And that is what I remember, the lady taking her to her interview.
And I looked at the guy and I was like, I'm going to marry that chick. And he goes.

[4:24] I said, All right. Game on. When you're done, I'm going to marry her. Well, I got your first.
Well, not true. At first it was. Yeah, So it was moment. The moment I saw her.
And I didn't believe in marriage.
I don't know why I even said that. It was weird. Ironically, the guy that said that is with the girl.
Let's take that for my interview. No shit.
Really? I don't know. She was the one who took it for you. Yeah.
Small world, Lotus Five. Small world. No, you have. Can you guys start out?

[4:59] Oh, don't edit any of this out. Listen, Lockdown.
Yeah, for real. They're not our fans. We're part of the Taking It Too Far.
We've only edited two things out, and that's because I could have ruined my life twice.

[5:14] That's kind of what started it with John and ruined his life.
No, I could have ruin my life. That's what I'm saying.
That's why we. I know. I just don't want to ruin that guy's life, whatever he does.
Why is it like that? No fraternization? No. I've told that story before.
No, everybody was fucking everybody. So what was your come online? I came on her.

[5:33] Come on. That's exactly what I just walked right up to her, just like it was like game of.
Oh, my God. Somebody just told me that that was it. We learned last night that that's a trend on Facebook. Bread crumbs, bread.
No, no, no, no. Remember Leeann saying something about you? Send a come picture. Oh, gosh.
Some video that can't be real. Yeah, it's a real fucking thing.
And she got some. Wait until you hear what these singles are doing these days.
These single paper, single people, they are getting wild kids.
The kids these days are being crazy.

[6:06] Who's the Mac Miller fan? So, Brad, Brad, I have the man.
I have that exact Not that I have the kids. And yeah, I love Brad up in my studio too. And. Oh, do you really?
Yeah, the kids. And we have a big one with all his album covers on it.
Oh I Love That Kid is my favorite album of all time. I don't know that I've ever heard that Kids album. Have you ever heard somebody say he's the John Lennon of our generation?
No, I said that. Okay, but why? Because I'm crazy.
I'm all right. Thank you. But, like, why have you listen to, like, swimming and circles? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's amazing album. Okay, wait, let's go back. Who came on to who first?
Like, what was your. Do you remember? Because you came on at me hard.
Yeah, right. She kept it. Yeah. Oh, did you?
Yeah, because I was Shit. Oh, my God. At that office. At that office because it was like I was older and humble.
Yeah, I was like the older cat in the office, and, like.
Like she said, like I was like. I don't remember your name. You know what I mean? Kind of thing. Like, I had that.
Well, no, like, okay, bad ass. So bad boy ad as you go. But it was. It was mutual.
Yeah, I was in her. Don't get me. So.

[7:16] But I. I openly was into him.
But, like, I. Okay. So let me put it this way.
But. So everybody said that he would not remember anybody's name. And I was like.
And they were like, he's a dick. He's not nice, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And then I specifically was like, taking notes in the back. And he was like, Hey, Laura, you can go and do this and take my notes. Here you go.

[7:51] Like, you can do all this. And he was being super sweet and nice to me.
And then like, I was like, Oh, thanks. And then I was leaving that night and he was like, Oh, what? You're not going to say bye to me?
And like he said, all this stuff like, Yeah. Oh, okay, bye.
So I made sure he was totally, like, hitting on me. So I took that as like, he wants this.
Yeah, he remembered your name and he was like, You're not going to say bye to me. Yeah. She called me one night.
She's partying with her friend. She's like, Come, come over.
Like, we're just hanging out. Yeah, I'm like, that's like, 45 minutes away.
I was in my bathing suit. I was like, You gotta see this.
It was stupid. And I drove before his buddy got up. Drove.
It was stupid. I didn't have any money. I don't know how I made it there.
And gas. Like, I didn't have any gas. We didn't make any money.
I'm drinking. I'm in a pool. Come over.
I'm over. Let's play Monopoly together. I love how every time he.
I don't know if you. I don't. You probably have it because that's the voice.
He actually secretly doesn't like podcasts, which is why we do our short Adam doesn't listen to.
Right? Like he she doesn't like them, which is why we've done them short because we've had so many people say, I love that I can laugh for 20 to 30 minutes and it's hilarious.
But anyways, what was he saying? I don't know. Oh, shit. Hold on.

[9:08] You were saying? Oh, and so I love that in your podcast, every time he refers to you, he's like, And I got that question.
Yeah. So what's your what's your brand voice?
Oh, geez. So you have one because I do one for Brad. I don't think I, I don't know. I don't think I have one.
I probably like real mean about it, though, because I don't think I've ever done a voice where when I wasn't mad, like, it's like I've always just been angry when I've done his voice. Yes.
Oh, mine. Do I have a bad voice, Jonah?
You said he did. I do. But I don't. I don't. I'm asking if he knows.
Laura, I've never noticed. Oh, yeah.
Wait, what do I do? It's just kind of derby. Yeah, it is. It's like, Oh, my name's BR.

[9:59] Solitaire. Oh, that is what it is. It's like, Oh, my God, it is not good. That's how fun.
How is that any better than you going? Oh, my God.
And they get drunk. And that's exactly what you generally have.
I met drunk, like literally the episode Friday night. I love the episode we just talked about. Like she came home like that literally was on a sack.
That's exactly what she says. Not at all. Yeah, that's not what I heard.
That's what, like this high?
Yeah. Hey, you're right. We should do it real quick before I pass out.
Know before it takes me 10 minutes to undo this. Double not.

[10:43] No, I that is my voice for Brad is always that. Honey, you're not dumb.
Silent Brad is with us today, but we only have four mikes because, you know, we're on the grow up.
I don't know anybody. I don't know anybody that wants more than four mikes anyways.
But. Producer Mike, I guess. Me You can't have more than four people.
I can do whatever I want. You can. Actually, I listen to my podcast because.

[11:07] I'm actually trying my best to make this mine. Because here's the thing.
Well, not that you guys care, but I'm going to tell you, we do care how this came to like, I'm at this such a weird stage in my life that, like, I initially wanted to call this The Inbetweeners because I feel like I'm in between so many things, like TV show.
They're a show called that. Yeah. See, they keep taking all my other like 90, your brain like nineties.
Anyways, I'm in between so many things in my life I'm an empty, almost an empty nester. I have no kids to take care of. What's your oldest?
What's your youngest? My youngest is 18. Oh, so it's like you're. You're like, right.
Like, yeah, we're last step. Yeah, man. We're graduates this year.
No, he graduated already, so. Oh, and then he's just trying to go to college now. He's just trying to figure out what he wants to be when he grows up.
Hell, yeah, that's better because he.
Because he graduated and he was 17 and then he turned 18 in July.
So. Gotcha. In retrospect, I'm like, he I have to remind myself of that when I get on him about it. I'm like, You don't have to rush, but you do got to get a job.
Oh, he doesn't have a job. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He has been applying, so. But hiring. We're hiring. We got to travel. Oh, you are?
He'll travel. He'll do. He would love to travel. I'll do whatever my company hires out of Arkansas.
What do you do? Or I read fiber optics for warehouses. OC.
Oh, my gosh. I just had a remember, I just had to remember.

[12:34] Who was telling us what they do for a living. And it was about fiber.
I run fiber. And they he was like, this is what I this is my pickup line. Yep.
Oh, my God. It's Nick, Elijah's friend. He had a fire. Oh, yeah.
He probably runs it for, like, the lines out there.
He works in Indianapolis and he's 19 and he is hilarious. And he was telling he loves Jonah. He, like, has a crack. Got the youngins going for you.
You talk about that at the last day like me. All the youngins waiting for you at the end of the night, like day.
I know. Oh, your wife would have the youngins to play them.
Yeah, I'll beat them all. I mean. Oh, they might like that. And I would I would be like, did you did you call an Uber?

[13:21] Don't look at my boobies. I'm too worried about you getting your Uber for the night.
There was a young kid at the Coterie, now at New Year's Eve.
She liked mom. She like mom them. She's like, running. And she's like, Oh, you poor baby. I didn't like what's happening, You mommy, you're going to be the mom of the bathroom. And that's okay.
I can't help it. Yeah, I think it's okay.
So let's get back to love. Yeah, love.
Speaking of love, your son, let's talk about your son's loss, because I think he's. He's hitting it.
You know what? I listen and I'm like, I tell Laura, I'm like, Man, I can't wait for, like, what are we going to do? And like, because I told her about your condom story.
Oh, God. Oh, God. Which is a great story. You guys tell good stories because we have a lot of good stories, dammit.
Well, they did good. They're good stories. Oh, God, honey. And here's the thing about it, right? Is like people, those are uncomfortable conversations to have.
I grew up in a home where you just don't talk about it. Yeah, you just don't talk about it. And so when Brad said you.
We used to put condoms in the boys stockings, I was like, Oh, I mean, do you remember Brad?
And he's shaking his head. For those of you who can't hear, you hear and you, can hear him shaking his head big, that big of a ham.

[14:35] And and I was like, I would never. And he was like, you don't think your kid's going to have sex? And I was like, Well, I don't want to encourage it. So finding the balance.
So the best advice we gave to him was I said, Brad told me this and I told this to my son and he still remembers it.
And he said, because Brad hasn't had a lot of sexual partners and you should be proud of that. And sorry, we're just putting it all out there, baby.

[15:01] No, it's great body part. Brad And do you know what he said?
He he said, I realized that they when you sleep with somebody, they take a little piece of you every time.
And that, like, made my kid not need a stocking full of condoms.
Like your kids. Brad, when boys were whores.
I'm just kidding. It's great. Sorry, sons.
Wisdom is good. And if you take that wisdom, so. Yeah, like it's.
Anyway. So what do you guys. You guys have a little boy? How old is he? Six. Just turned six.
Six? Yeah. Oh, man. Okay, Wait. So. So you met in at AT&T, then what happens next?
You fall in love. We're like, You don't want to do this anymore.
Okay? Both were like. Like we got to a point where I'm just sitting in my car, like they're sending me the same neighborhoods.
I'm like, Yeah, I know. I was here last week, but you sure you don't want to?
AT&T Let me tell you about the line work. The same line work you told me about.
Yeah. Anyways, so I'm like, I don't want to do this anymore.
Like, fuck this. Yeah. So you my second time in Florida. So it's my second time trying to make it in Florida.

[16:03] And she's like, the same way because there's a point where you start and you're making decent and you're making like five, $600 a week because you're you're you're revved up, right? I mean, you're all right.
You're making sales and then you realize it's a fucking sham and you're like, just lying to people out of your teeth to get a sale.
You're like, Yeah, dude, that 700 hard DirecTV bill, I will pay it off and gift cards. Just sign this line and please feed me.
Please feed me. So we tried to quit and the boss completely brainwashed us to stay.
He's like, You're going to do this. You're going to do this, and you're not going to work together and yadda, yadda, yadda, because we were going on the field together just fucking around, right?
And it lasted like a week. We did the same shit. We're just like, This is fucking stupid, right? So we quit. Like, where are we going in our life?
Was it just like a ha moment? Like you found your person at that point?
You think you guys knew you found your person? I did.

[16:57] I did. Do you think you did? Yeah, because that's part I've got to tell you.
The next part is about to tell you.
You hear that? Yeah. How did she not approve? I don't know. It is a weird feeling, which is, like I said, the moment I saw her, it was like. And every person in my life has gotten divorced at that point. My sister, my parents, 27 marriages just had ended.
My best friend's marriage had ended. Like I was not getting married.
Like I was like, fuck, marriage in the weirdest was just like, I'm going to marry this girl. Like, I just I don't know, I it was weird.
What was the. Aha. It was, it is penis size.
So cases we know that's pretty tiny. So like, she was like, oh I've never seen one that small. Like I got just like the baby wiener. Yeah.
I had been with somebody for a long time before I left Pennsylvania and I then I had been through a string of like he, he had been he'd been real abusive.
And then I had been through a string of on and off again relationships and with that person on and off again, and it was like just real bad situations for a long time.
And then I packed up all my stuff and I'm just taking where I have to and I have ADHD.

[18:04] I was 18. I'm serious about this shit. I'm going to get famous.
It was really bad. So I moved to Florida and I had really bad anxiety and really bad depression and I didn't know what to do and it was just a string of really bad decisions. Like I was living in boats and stuff. Like, really? Like, Yeah.
Hooters. Waitress You were kind of a nomad, right? Yeah, Like, it was weird Hooters waitresses.
Admirable, especially. I have, like, Alex ality in every chance, like, Yeah, but, like, I was, like, trying to find places to stay, like, because I lived an hour and a half away and, like, I didn't live in Destin, like, but I was working in.
I wasn't living the greatest life. It wasn't like a really admirable life.
It was really like a hard, hard, hard life. So it wasn't. Did that start in Pennsylvania?

[18:51] She fled. No, I like. But was that all your memories in Pennsylvania, like, kind of stem from that?
Has that been your life cycle up into the point of meeting him, then?
Yeah, like it was like it was just bad stuff.
Like it was just all just bad. And then I finally, like when I was going to go back to Pennsylvania and I got that weird email and then I got that job.
And then my mom, I kept telling my mom like, I'm never going to like, ever find anybody that's going to treat you right.
My mom kept telling me, you know, God has a plan, God has a plan, God has a plan. And then the one time we were on this work trip and we were in the hot tub and he looked over at me and he had this tattoo on his arm and it said, What do you know? It fucking said, God has a plan.
And I'm like, Oh, I love that. Like a lot of things.
Like we were kind of, Man, it's a weird. It's a weird.
So the weird thing about that email and then the weird thing with the tattoo, it was like the first time you had just ever felt like calm with your decision.
That's how it was when I met B But this is all happening. You got to this is not in the middle of chaos. No, this is not an elongated time.
This is like a month. Yeah, yeah. That's how we were all happening within a month because we quit. We quit.
And at the same time we quit, her parents or her mom was moving and we couldn't, because we were living with her mom. We didn't make shit, we made no money.
So I was homeless and they were like, Well, you stop in within like a couple months.
Two or three months, sorry, three months. We had no place to live.
Her mom was like, You can't come with us. You can't come.

[20:21] We're like, We just pitch you as like, we just pitch in.

[20:24] She's like, Laura, you could come, but he can. I'm like, Because your mom was also probably protecting you in a way.
So we moved Indiana. Do something. She moved with me. He was like, Listen, like, I wouldn't want to do this with anybody else but you.
Yeah. I said, Hey, I have nowhere else to go. Indiana is my home.
Do you have a really good supportive family here? Brandon Well, yeah. My dad's all my dad ain't going nowhere.
He still lives in the house. We we grew up in Michigan and then moved here.
The good old the Chrysler Automotive. Yeah.
We are central automotive world in this town. We grew up in Oak and then he still lives at that house.
My parents are divorced, but yeah, I always had like I always had a place to come, right? There was always a because I did it thousands of I mean, my twenties, I moved seven or eight times, seven different states.
I was everywhere. See, I always would come back.

[21:15] I always go on and on about how the next generation is afraid of that stuff.
Oh, it's the Was it just like world here? I don't know if you guys know, but Jonna, you know, she met this guy three months. Well, it was October.
I have six degrees separation, dude. She fucking listen. What?
There's six degrees of separation with on guy.
Hey, wait. Hold on here. Over here. Go ahead, go. Sorry.

[21:40] Look, pick me or I'll forget. Go, go, go for you. Forget fucking.
That is a jerk. Try to remember. Hmm? Dammit. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Let's go back for remember?

[21:54] So, Jonah, just it. She does this thing where she feels like she has to say it's more time than what it actually is. Whatever you do it.
She's been with the guy. Yes. Okay. And I think that that's because you made shitty decisions. I made shitty decisions, it seems like.
Like coming into that. I see. I always say this to you. Laura. Laura?
Laura. Laura or Laura? Laura. Laura. I've never called you that. Laura.
It's Laura. It's Ella. You are a Laura.
Okay. I've never called you just because you don't say it. Right. Talking to Mike.

[22:33] Don't tell her what to do.

[22:36] Oh, man. Okay. This is all about why I'm insane or right? For, like, the nine years we've been together.
We're branded looking at Brad, like I wish you had a hair. Right?
You're telling me right now on this podcast, we're breaking.
We're breaking news. It's Laura. Breaking news.
Lara. Lara. Laura. Laura. Laura. Laura.

[23:00] Got it wrong. She's never corrected. I feel like we know that.
Call me Jonah. Jonah, I never, never correcting you.
You know what I did one time? I once had a kid take me to school for a whole fucking school year.
You guys. And I said out of every time I'd get out of the car. Thanks, Josh.
And I saw him years later at the Sycamore Grill, and he was like.
I said, Hey, Josh, how are you? And he's like, Good, how are you?
And my friend Stacy looks at me and he goes.
Why do you call him Josh for? I was like, That's his name. But he goes, His name is Frank.
Not even close. I was like, Why did his dad name him Frank?
I was like, His dad's name is Frank, for sure. And he never was Frank.
He never. So went up to him at the Sycamore Grill. And I was like, Hey, is your name Frank?
And he was like, Yeah. And I go, Why have you never corrected me this entire time? He was like, You always so nice.
I always tell people, my name is Laura. Oh, I always say, How are you saying that, Lara?
Lara, why are you making it more than what? No, I don't know.
Because I was weird. Ah! Laura.
Laura? Laura? Laura, Laura, Laura. Why are you saying it so weird?

[24:16] Brain damage. How long have you guys been married? It's going to be eight years in May 19.
So you move back to Indiana. You don't know her fucking name?
We moved to Illinois. We moved from Indiana. Right to Illinois.
Why Illinois? My mom went for my dad. I got a job.

[24:34] I got a job. I was broke. I still didn't have a job. And now she's jobless.
Oh, shit. Then you move. But you guys were young.
Yeah, No, she supported. That's why it's so great now. Because she supported me to make it to where we are now. That's why I have such a.

[24:50] Yeah. You guys can always tell. You guys are so in love with taking like.
Yeah she takes to my son has been is the smartest kid in the world and that's because of that woman right there like she raised him True.
And if she would have went he have went to the daycare, he would have been duct taped to a chair like I was so like she's a saint that she was The greatest decision we made is me to be able to support our family with just one job.
I think that's great if you could do it, absolutely. Take that.
I think that's beautiful. I always see that with both of you. What?
That you guys are just in love with each other, that you have a you have a really, really like I I'm we have a disgusting story, Brad and I, you'll learn about it on the next podcast.
I want it to hear it like it's pretty disgusting. But when he finally got to put it in her butt, sure, that's the best night.
How did you meet your how to how did you meet? I can you can I just call because I'm going to say your name.
I'm John Jay. It's. Yeah, John Jay. I don't know.
I see John around all the time. Oh, my nickname is Joe. You can call her Joe.
Joe? Apparently, that's her nickname. She said that the other day, and I was like, her new boyfriend called.
I've never fucking, ever heard anyone call you that. Your boyfriend call you that? No.
Okay. All right. He says my name, right?

[26:07] He does say it, right? Yeah. That like, good for it. What my husband just said.

[26:13] So how did you guys meet, though? Well, we were. We were kind of chatting with each other. I was on Facebook, Facebook messenger. He slid into the 2014. Oh, wow. Yeah.
That's a long time ago. Yeah. And then we just kind of obviously like he was.
We were in different states, so he went his way. I went my way, and then I bumped into him at a mcalister's, but I didn't recognize him.
What do you get in a salad with your order at Mcalister's?
A T? That's it? Yeah. You literally stood in line for 20 minutes or a T? Yeah, that's it.
But anyway, so. So he saw me there and then like, later he reached out and he was like, Hey, there's a person right there.
My daughter just scared the shit out of me from behind. Sorry.
I don't mean to cut you off. I was just like I thought were being murdered for a second. Nope, it just.
It's just your listening. Okay. Bye bye.
That's funny. See, when you ran into McAllister. Yeah, there's another one.
And the other door. Oh, hell, they're everywhere.

[27:17] They're just popping up and they're everywhere. I thought you were an empty nester. There's so many people in the net. They come back. They come back? Yeah.
They're like, What are you cooking? Anyways? Go ahead. Sorry.
Jonah McAllister was in there.
We met. That was it. Then he got in my DMS. No, that was not it. That was.
They took it to Halloween party, she said, and we all liked him.
He was really, really nice this past Halloween. And then the next day I was like, Hey, how'd it go? And she goes, I can't stand him.
I can hear his mouth movements too much. And I was like, Oh, And then a week later, she's like, I think I'm in love now.
Yeah, you sound very smitten with him. She's super, super smitten.
I think you use that word. Smitten. Smitten. I feel like.

[28:01] In between mouth movements and love. I don't know your moment.
I could hear him. The mouth movements he made somewhere else.
Somewhere I got to go. And it was like.
It was like. Never mind. I like with that mouth, dude.
Just kidding. Thank you.
Know? What was your moment? I honestly have talked to him about this countless times.
And he's always felt the same. You know, I don't really think he had a moment.
I definitely did, because I couldn't stand for a second, you know? Yeah.
And then I don't know what it was. So there had to have been Then there's a moment not maybe there's not been a moment then, dude. Well, okay, so there was a moment where I was like, so young. It doesn't have to be love.
Here's the thing. I was moved in.
He and how it got to be love. That's right. Got to be love. At this point, if you're giving away your condoms already, like I know, right?
I committed to that thing real quick, but that's our instinct.
But listen, look how all in you guys were.

[29:04] You guys were all in? Sure, we were all in There are good. Doesn't always work out.
No, it doesn't, But. But that's what my point is of doing. This is like, Why not? I think.
Well, I think that we you know, when it's not it, you know, like if you look back at your shitty relationships, dude, you knew.
You knew we went through some shit together though. There's that we both I have been through fucking shit relationships. We know all fucking about them too.
Oh, yeah. But you knew that she was different. Your body.
There's. Yeah. And you could handle it. Yeah. She's the right kind of crazy, you know what I mean?
That's the same thing. Just like I'm sure you can relate to this, Brad.
Like he does. Find the woman that you can that that top level crazy that they go to that you know, you can handle. And you're like, All right, I can handle this. I can I can do this.
My mother told me at my second wedding, she looked at me and there's a picture of me right when she said it.
She said, You marry someone that you can. You don't marry someone you can live with. You marry someone you cannot live without.
And there is this picture of me and I am like.

[30:13] Like, well, this is not going to work out.

[30:18] You know? But like I knew even with your ex-husband who I like, we thought it was forever. If you really think about it, you knew.

[30:29] Is that? Is this the one you would have stayed with? Yeah. Yeah.
Sorry. Deep down inside of me that knew. Yeah.
Well, to say what you said on the earlier episode, that you would have stayed with them through that stuff. Yeah, that was pretty yeah, that was pretty like, All right, you definitely were.
I was with them. But what I can't what I can't deal with is somebody lying to me. Yeah, that's both baseline and being disrespectful. That's one thing that I will tell you if you want to. I mean, that's what we money too.
We got a shared bank account like, quickly and we I don't lie to her like I'm, okay. I lie but like to her.
It's easier just to tell the damn truth. I got over there.
I mean, I'm not going to say I don't lie. I get what you mean when it comes to her. Like I just tell her the truth and I tell her everything because you can.
I've done the relationships where you get caught up in these lies.
You're like, I don't even know what's real, what's a lie anymore at this point, Like.

[31:22] Your underpants. I know you're lying about other stuff. Yeah, I just. So I just tell her I went into this relationship, like, All right, I'm going to be honest with this girl on every thing that I go with.
That's called guard railing.
What guard railing? Why is it going to be word for everything?
Because I've been learning stuff.
Just be on being an honest guy. Laura wants to talk. Laura. Well, I can tell she has a she has a face. I feel.
I feel like there's been times where you've. Where you've hid things from me.
They have caught you. Name one. Are you talking about the porno thing?

[31:58] I was the one. I was walking up in the background.
Oh, God. You did? People walk in on me a lot. It seems like when you're.
Oh, I was taken. I was supposed to be taking a shower. I don't.
I have never walked in on me.

[32:13] And she walked in the shower there, though, like, if I'm. If I'm there.
Yeah, you shouldn't be doing that. But that was the only time that ever happened.
I think that that's a really good.
How would you feel, Jonah, and your new relationship? You are brand new.
You guys are in my honeymoon phase.
I was worn out down there. Please whack off.
Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't get worn out. Yeah, it's very much not worn out.
It's very much all in shape and perfect. Are you saying you want to have sex?
Oh, I think you know. What I mean is, if you've done it so much that you. It's like saw.
Nope, nope. Didn't do it too much. It was perfect. It was good. Well, just fine.
See, here's my thing. I actually said to Brad the other day, I was like, Do you ever whack off?
Didn't I, Brad? Yeah. He's shaking his head. Yes. For those of you who can't hear.

[33:05] And I was like, Do you? And he was like, That's weird. Why are you going to ask me that? I was like, Well, I know he's a sexual human. He could literally have sex three times a day. I'm not I'm not exaggerating. He's 48. Yeah, I wiped him up.
Get it? Get it? I mean, he is. He still does.
He's like he he could. I don't want to. I'm on Zoloft, for fuck's sake.
Like I got antidepressants up in me, motherfucker. I can't just do it all the time. Okay, But anyways, that being said, I.
I so I didn't really care. I don't think I really care, but I think that that's where I think you can be in a relationship at certain points in your life. And it would bother me.
Well, does that make sense? Like if you're not doing there, if you're feeling that way right now, you're not doing her love language.
Brandon What feeling? What way? If she's feeling, it feels like that's a well felt like at that point your mind is a long time ago felt like at that point in your marriage there's also going take offense to it.
It was probably because you weren't feeling some void. So she thought that that was Well, here's the thing, though. Also the key that she is if she's around.

[34:15] Why are you watching that? Well, I didn't have relationships where it was like, well, if I'm around, you know what I mean?
It was it was it's never it's never been just bug nobody. Yeah.
Now now there's an understanding like, listen, if I'm around, like, I don't want you watching other like, it's not, it's not there was an understanding and that where I think that comes from.
Used to which like John and I have talked about like I don't know your situation but you said there was abuse.
I think that comes from like I watched porn one time and I threw up written no swear, go. No joke.
Never done it before. I was 18, 18, 18. We went into we went and got the video at the local family. Video at the point.

[34:55] Yes, yes, yes. That one. Sorry. And I walked in and as I was walking out, my girlfriend was like, I cannot believe you have never been in one of these.
And I was like, I had a baby at that time, you guys and I never seen porn.
Like, no. Yeah, because it's before the Internet. You didn't just hop on Reddit.
We had dial up by then. Yeah, but you were hopping on Reddit too.
Exactly. You were downloading, right?
Pornhub dot com wasn't around or just tik tok like for porn on Tik tok, you can get all sorts of borderline porn on tick. They just say corn. Borderline porn.
Yeah. Corn, corn, corn and segues.
Yes that's like the but no. And so I remember going so as I was walking out, one of my mom and dad's best friends was on the very end. You know, the family video I'm talking about right there on by Kroger.
So right when you're coming out of that, there's the like scary movie section.
And I was like, it was the worst place. It was the.
What about the water fountains in the back? Yes. Yeah, exactly.
And I'm walking out and I see him. I'm like, I cannot come out.
I'm hiding it in the porn section.
I made my video and I'm like, Just call me. There's mirrors up there.
Yeah, there's total there's the there's everybody's mirrors.
And I wasn't older and I was like, I mean, I was mortified. I don't know why, but I was mortified. I'm 18, I have a child, but I'm still mortified that this man who was my parents friend.

[36:17] Looks up at the mirror and I'm watching him in the mirror. I can't see.
Like he can't see me, right?

[36:26] Like, I'm like, Oh, God, Maybe if I hold still.

[36:30] I tried to scare Brad earlier today. I was like, How did you see me?
It was like the mirror. You're not good with me. You don't understand how I work.

[36:39] If you could see them, usually you could. They could see you.
Kind of like watching him, waiting them, like, Wow.
Anyways, so I stayed back there, and then we went home. We watched it.
I put it in and all I remember.
Is. I don't remember what the video was about, but I remember it making me feel some type of way.
Maybe it's because I grew up Catholic. I have a very strong like and I've been I've been abused in a lot of different ways in my life.
So I think that it makes it very weird. For the first moments in your in your relationship intimately, like, is that right?
Is that wrong? If you've associated porn with something that was negative in your life, like some douchebag you were dating before, it's I think it's normal.
But once you start to embrace your relationship in a healthy manner, it doesn't faze you anymore. Like, I'd be like, Okay.
But I would also like, reach in and be like.

[37:33] That's two times in a week. That's weird. I'm not going to give you any.
But you can't do that either.
You're not going to give me any. Any punishment I'll punish.
No, no. That's like I'm not horny, but that's not healthy because porn also.
Let's talk about that. That's pretty unhealthy. It's unhealthy.
Pretty bad with these girls. Go through there. I frickin told Elijah the other day, my son.
I said, No, not the other day. I've been saying this for years to my kids.
You're not going to be able to get hard at 21 if you start banging everybody now and watching it, because guess what's not going to happen to women are not going to walk in and ask you if they can make you a sandwich.

[38:13] Unless you're Dan Bowser and got millions of dollars. That's about the only way that dude.
But yeah, porn is very fake. And you got itchy, baby. He want me back.
That's right. Here we went all over with that. Sorry. Oh, well, so at this point, you wouldn't wouldn't want watch porn.
You wouldn't want him to watch porn without you or you don't care.
I really don't. First of all, I don't care ever anyway. But what if it was every day?
What if it was every day? If he didn't want to give me any and only wanted to watch porn, then what's it?
What if he wants to give you some every day, But he also wants to watch porn every day. He has a problem.
That's what I that's my go to. You said you don't care. No.
See if you do know. Yeah. You should go to sex addicts Anonymous.
I've never been with somebody who wanted to watch it.

[39:02] Like, ever. Honestly, I'm always like, Oh, have you ever seen this?
Like, I don't watch that. Good.
Have you been with a lot of guys that aren't honest? No. Yes, a lot of guys.

[39:15] It's as bad as it is. I mean, I don't care. I've never had the type of personality to be like, Hey, what are you watching?
Yeah, that's weird, too, though, you know? I mean, it's kind of a personal.
Yeah, private. Private.
I guess. I don't know. Yeah, it's private to watch. Private.
And I'm the opposite of you, Claire, because, like, in my household, growing up, it really wasn't a big deal.
Oh, really? Oh, no. Your dad just watching porn all the time.
Well, see, back in the day, family movie night.

[39:45] My dad actually does Dallas tonight. Guys, get the popcorn.
Listen, back in the early or late nineties, early 2000s, we had one of those black box things where you have Oh, like that you.
Yeah. You could get like all the stuff like all the free shit I just picture and still it you're wrong.
Turn it on Debbie does Dallas for the night do. That's so bad Stella please don't will haunt me tonight. I'm just kidding.

[40:15] A good part right here. Go ahead. No, but it wasn't a big deal.
She'd be like, Look at this shit. And then she'd, like, put on something, and it would just be like a girl dancing. It was like her silhouette dancing like that was it?
So it was, like, hard core insertion. No. Oh, no.
Did anything weird like that? No. She just was like, come to the breakfast table with no bra on.
Because every mom in the nineties without a shirt.

[40:45] Bora Bora. Bora Bora. Part of that? I don't know.
My mom had a shirt on. At least I think every. I don't have one story about finding porn when I was young.
Oh, I do. Oh, I found all my dads. What about you, Laura? Where's your dad?
Around. Is that a weird question? No, my dad.
My dad was around. He was always like poly Boy, did he have a trunk or.
Yeah, let's see. He's too drunk. Okay. Okay.
Like, I remember waking up in the middle of the night, and my dad was like.

[41:14] Asleep on the couch and. Like Showtime was on or Cinemax was on all that be like this.
And it was like really, really, really late at night. Yeah. And we were both, on the couches, so, like, my dad was on one couch. I was on another couch, and I woke up in the middle of the night and was like, Oh, now bring him out now.
And I was like, What is going on?
She was watching, walking and watching Pulp Fiction. I'm looking over and my dad's on the couch and he's asleep and there's porn on the TV. And I'm like, Oh my God.
Like, why? Why are they having sex?
What is that for on the TV? But did you know it was porn? Did you know that?
Because I don't think I would have known that drool glisten sometimes on the TV, like late night stuff. It would show like softcore porn.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. Was. Yeah.
Like dry humping. Oh, yeah, it was.
No, not Pulp Fiction. We're probably like, See, that shows you how green I am.
It was like boobs out, boobs out, porn, everything but everything.
They were, like, doing it. You could see them doing this, but they wouldn't, like Barry licking. No insertion. Licking him?
Yep. All of it. See? Everything They'd had to pay for it. Oh, my. Showed up on the late night television on certain channels.
We didn't have cable. We had Jesus Christ in our house.

[42:37] I'm sure they have the best. I think it was like one of those.
You get it for free. T Yeah, that's what it was for free.
Yeah. I love those weeks. We were poor. We didn't have any.
Yeah, those are the best movies you got to watch every It's been a year.
We can now get HBO again. Yeah, we have. Yes, that's what we did.

[43:03] Yes, we got free my dad. I remember my dad literally putting the foil, tin foil on the antenna, like I really do.
That your dad worked hard, Jonna. Your dad has. Your dad probably has $500 Million buried in your backyard.
I'm not even playing it. Her dad is Johnny's dad is 81 years old.
Eight. He's almost 80. He's almost 80. He still works. Wow. 6 to 7 days a week. Sure.
He wears the same damn bib overalls every day. Chrysler, Michigan, old train repairman at Chrysler. And it has been give up. No, he went from the pottery.
Still mill to the pottery to the. He's been a factory worker.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hard worker, guys like that.

[43:49] And she's like, my parents didn't have anything. I'm like, No, your parents, your all, your shit's paid for. Your dad has been working his ass off for a long time. 500 million is a lot, though.
That's a lot of money. It might be five.

[44:03] It could be. I mean, with interest in for one K, when you get over 65, you're true high.
And like those Delco dollies, like people who, have been working that long and factory life 30 years ago, what's the term you just use a Dell Delco Dolly someone that used that someone used that the other day about Was it atom about like fucking in Delco?
Oh yeah, the Delphi Delco dollies. Like if you're from Kokomo, Indiana, you and you're around my age or maybe a little bit younger. Yeah.
You're, you know all about the Delco dollies. So Delphi that used to be Delco Delco.
It went like, I don't know what it is now. GM There's nothing there now.
Yeah, it's a rat infested well, it's where they kept all the trucks.
Like you got a holding with the half of it without the, the Oh yeah, yeah. That's right across the street from our house we live.
Oh, is it live right there. Oh. Och. Do you live right there off of Goyer.
No, we live off, we live in Crooked Hill, which is right where you go down.
All you go down. Albright. Oh, nice. Okay. All right. That's enough of a little nook back there. Yeah, well, we Yeah, for sure.
We live right in Oak, and they live in the nooks a little notch, right? They live in the G-spot of that area. Yeah, right there in the good spot.

[45:19] There's a G-spot in every area in your butt, too. Did you hear that? Absolutely.
Guys have. That's what I'm saying.
Guys. Yeah. Yeah. If you listen to our podcast, you know, I found it out.
Oh, God. I need to list on the P button. I can only get through 20 to 30 minutes, but I'm going to do better. I'm going to go listen to all of them.
That's just because it's my attention span to 30 minutes.
Yeah, because there's a lot of it's usually I like the middle.
You find your flow in the middle? No, at the beginning.
Sometimes the end is really good. I'm sure it is, but it's more my attention span and listen to Derek. Essential. That's the best one yet.
What is it, Derek? Essential. One of my favorite ones. Episode 3232 If you guys are listening to it, start on 32. Okay.
The green for any new takers, just start on 32. On start on one.
Taking it too Far Podcast.
Just take it a little far. Not too far. Just 32.

[46:14] Keep going. I love your signs. Keep going. You know, charades.
Not the karate guy, but the. Oh, the suit.
Did he wear the suit? Yeah. Yeah, I made. I made a pretty bad I made a pretty bad joke about when the Green Ranger killed himself. Like, if he wore the suit or not.
Do you guys think he wore the suit, like, on Power Rangers? Yeah.
You know he killed himself, right?
No, that was, like, a long time ago. You know about that? The Green Ranger.
Wow. You guys don't watch the news at all?
No. Well, we try to avoid it. If. If a power ranger killed himself, do you think he would wear the suit or not?
Like a pretend one or like. Or like I told Sue because he was, like, on the original television show. Okay, So.
Right. So if Barney. Right. Sure. And Barney Barney, like Sudan, would I know Why would I use a sue?
That would be so sad. This is a bad joke.
Oh, it's a joke. Yeah. Yeah, He just had to listen to the podcast.

[47:11] That went. That went too far. It's like speaking of too far, you're texting me earlier. She's like, I'm just sexting you.
And I'm like, What's what's happening?
I have to tell you, this is funny, Brad. Brad is here, guys, but you just can't see or hear him anyways.

[47:29] I Brandon texted me earlier and he's like, Hey, are we still on?
And I said, Hey, I like caps lock.
You know, I was just sexting you. And then I was like, Whoa, no, it wasn't.
I was texting you. And I said, Do you know how much it has been bothered?
We don't ever say That's what I'm saying.
To be like your first thing. The last time we sexted was probably a few weeks ago, and I said, Hey, do you want to do it? And it was ten in the morning.
He can't not sexting like. And he came running back to the bedroom with a big old hard on and it was like, just take his head as any guy should.
Yeah. And he was like, Hell, yeah. Just takes a text.
Not even I'm on break bitch anyways.

[48:07] Shit. Yeah. So. But I have been paranoid ever since that I don't have your wife's number because I think that. I think that you have to have a.

[48:19] I think you have to protect your marriage. Do you know what I mean?
But you're going to text me some weird. I just never know. No, I just never want someone. You know how this is gonna. It just helps me.
Like she has your phone number. But she didn't have her phone, right? You had. And technically, I like her way back, or I knew I should have her. Yeah, but if I leave it to Laura, she's never going to get anything done.
That is say, I'm going to build you up to say my number. Yes, I have your number.
Please text me real quick. Yeah, it was funny. I was just like, there's a packet.
He goes, There's so much we can unpack with this. I was like, Yes, yes. And then all I could think about was, Oh my God, I hope she doesn't think that I was sexting her husband because I have had bad luck.
You know, all you said I've had bad luck with girls dating. It was just you said it.
In my defense, I have had people for real think I was coming on to their husbands and I was like, That's crazy.
No, I'm just trying to be friends like they love each other so much.
Oh, dude, if she said that before. Yeah, I don't want nobody but that bill.

[49:22] Oh, like, that's kind of how we are. Why I think we are. I don't care about.
I mean, I travel like people. Like if they're flirting with me, I couldn't even tell you. Like, I just, like, go on. And I hope that's the same with her. Like, I just don't see anybody else with her around.
So, like I do now that we've been married seven years, like other guys.
No, no, no, no, no. That's what I thought. You were tired. Whoa. This is getting deep.

[49:49] No, you gorgeous. Text you. Yes, she did.
Okay, so now it's okay for you to text me because now you ever.
Yeah. And I'll do like what I do with Jonah and Jordan. I'll put it on a group chat, and if you don't like it. Sorry.
Brad hates them is the worst. Brad hates group chats. It's the worst.
Guess what? The devil. It just do what I do. Ignore half of them, don't I, Jonah?
I will not respond for two days. And then I'll be like, You guys are funny. She group chats.
She group chats. You and Jordan at the same time. Yeah. To like.
Yeah. Iron out plan. Yeah. Because.
I don't know him well enough yet. I am a very.
I know. I'm so weird. You're interesting as hell. I want to get to know you.
But sometimes you might just text me alone.
Like, if it's just between you and me or if it's just between you and him.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But we're not talking about anything. I guess what I mean.
Needed to know is. What? Do I have permission? Telling me is malicious about you? Yeah.
I'm like, Dude, I got a lot of stuff that I could say is malicious about you. Okay?
Yeah, he does. I'm reading those. Yeah.

[50:57] Ooh. Who do you ever want to read Jordan's texts?
Do I want to? Yeah. No. Oh, nice. Did you ever before on any of them?
Oh, there have been people that I've wanted to read their stuff.
Dude, I remember my ex-husband.

[51:14] I would like ninja the floor right in the middle of the night.
I'm not bullshitting. I would literally set the alarm to the lowest things vibrate, and in my head it would wake me up.
I knew he was in his room of sleep, like his deepest sleep against his phone.
And I would like Ninja Crawl. I know. This is so.
Why you guys not together anymore? Yeah, exactly.
He was fucking everybody, So, like. Like he was. It wasn't. So you had a reason to be ninjas.
So here's my rule. If you ever fuck me over, I'm going to be a psycho for probably about a month, and then I will restart because I don't think you should bring If you're going to forgive somebody, you should forgive somebody. So you got a month.
So you got until like I just needed to investigate. I believe in marriage.
I believe in people can make mistakes like I wanted to make.
Now that was me ninja in making sure.
So I dropped down onto the ground and I like, rolls over. I was like.
And the floor like still is hell.
And then the PR walks in and she's like, Your walks in. She's like, probably nine.
And she's like, Mom, Mom.
And she goes, Why are you on the floor? I was like, Get down on the ground.

[52:31] She's like, Oh, gosh, why are we on the ground? Dang. I crawl back out of here right now. Did he have a password on it?
He No. We had, like, those flip phones.
So now that was like we've ever been like that or have you ever been like that with my phone? No. Yeah. Yeah, that's good. I've never been like that with his phone.
If I want to look through your phone, I just grab it. Yeah, I don't have it.
I'd be like, I'm feeling insecure. Can I have your phone? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Down. Jordan is like, This is my. This is my password. You know, he gave me all. He's always giving me his password, right?
The whole thing is not wanting to hide thing. Honesty.
Yeah. You got to pay if you're like, if you're kind of person is like, No, don't look at my phone. Like, usually it's because you're doing some shit. I got it. Yeah.
Or he'll, like, hand this phone over to me and be like, Oh, pick, be the DJ, play the song. Like when people are up to no good, they guard their phone. Oh, yeah, exactly. Yeah.
It's right there next to them. And they got the password or which was.
Which is a lot for means. A lot for me, because my first husband, you know, he had a lot of anger issues and so if he caught me with his phone, he called me with his phone. One time I was locked in the bathroom.
He punched a hole through the door. Oh, geez. Yeah.

[53:41] Jeez, Guy's got to do some shit. And that's how you. What's crazy?
There's some wild dudes out there. Yeah, Like, okay, clearly, there's something important on this phone for you to punch a hole in the wall or, like, go through the door. Yeah, it's like some shining stuff. Yeah.
You can't look at that. Yeah, I mean, yeah, you're hiding something.
If you're hiding something, then you don't want.
Yeah, that's insane. Don't hide anything for me, Laura.
I just know him through that. Okay?

[54:07] Laura is the is the most annoying thing about Kokomo when you move here that everybody knows each other and you have like you end up in a conversation where everybody is like, oh, you know, he's such but I don't even know him. I I'm just here, you.

[54:21] Know? No, it's never happened to where it's like then been like that.
Like I don't even I, like I said, I've never more.
Brad had people coming up to him in Kroger.
Yeah. That's bad. And being like, like he, he'd be like, he'd be like, I don't know.
I met somebody at Kroger the other day who came up to him and it was because I just had they come up to you? Yeah. And they weren't even friends on Facebook, but he had just moved here and I had profile picture change and they'd be like, Are you with Claire?
Oh, my gosh. You're making you're like, like you're like that kind of person.
He really did the poor guy.
That's why Chiara told me the other day that you were at Lowe's with them, and she said, some big black dude walked up to you and was like, Hey, you Clare Hayden's husband, You met me before. And Giorgos Brad was like, I don't know you.
Yeah. He said, like, I haven't even heard the story from him. I just remembered this.

[55:16] You don't remember? And he goes, What did he say back? Is that a bar, man?
He oh, his name was Mike. He's like, Well, yeah, I remember you basically.
And here goes that. He just walked away. And I go, What did Brad say? And she goes, Nothing.
What are you supposed to say? I don't know you dude. Like, great, Cool.
We're close together, right? Like, you're a social butterfly, though. I've noticed, like at the bar with you, there's no. And the story.
You left your group for 45 minutes, and no one gave a damn because they just expected you to be gone.

[55:49] So is this as a normal for you to just talk to everybody in the bar? Yes.
So, yeah. So everybody, here's the thing. I have like, a weird psychic ability.

[56:04] What were you going to say? Go ahead. No, describe it. You know, you looked at Brandon like this.

[56:12] I was like, what are you going to say? Oh, no. I just have this weird thing. I'm just weird.
Collect people. I think she gets really aroused when she makes things so painfully awkward.
I do kind of get off on this. Yeah.
I don't know, dude. I just. Here's the thing. I spent so long of my life, like, being in prison to who I had always been told I was or who I thought I was.
That it's I'm trying to find a balance of being. How long were you in prison? In prison?
Only one night. Oh, you.
You learned a lot about yourself in 24 hours in prison. Like in prison?
Oh, I went straight up. You're like in prison? Like a prison.
Like I only spent one night at the prison. This is wild.

[57:06] This is a whole new thing. We're talking I could tell you a whole prison story, but.
Jail? You mean jail? Jail for one night in the county prison is wholly different.
And as they were walking me out, he said, How do you know everybody?

[57:19] There's like an inmate mopping up and shit. He's like, Hey, clue what's up?
And then there's my friend's husband comes, who's a cop? And he's like, Get the fuck out of the jail cell. Everybody knew.
Between you and Jake, why aren't you guys run for, like, mayor and, like, or, like, city council? You guys would win immediately.
Oh, because we live in Indiana.
No, I'm saying, but you and Jake, like you and Jake could run this town at this point because you go anywhere with Jake. It's.
I don't know. I don't think Jake is the same way. I haven't gone many places with you, but it seems like.
I mean, just I know it's annoying. Like, we can be like. I saw somebody I knew in Texas on a plane.

[57:57] I was like, Hey, is this such and such? I went to a concert the other day and saw a guy I hadn't seen in 20 years.
I'm like, texting. Like, should I say hi?
Run for office somewhere, You know, know, Be like, I know that girl. Vote for you.
This is my platform of being able to make some type of a difference.
Which sounds so weird because we talk about such uncomfortable, weird, funny things.
But I think we have to. I don't know. That's what I was saying is, like, I've spent so long being worried about who the fuck I was and how I was, and I was this perfect mom and I did all the right things, you know, read to my kid every night.
I did all of these things that you say you're supposed to do, and you put yourself in this box and you realize like, everybody has a different box.
And so it's really kind of been this has been a really good platform for me to be able to gain like a true confidence in that. I just don't.

[58:54] I don't know what brought that on. There was something, though, and then I looked earlier.
Yeah, but I look at Jennifer. Help. It's the only thing that I know of, right? I just keep going. Yeah, I know.
See? Don't worry. About what? Don't worry about the past. You can relisten later.
Does anybody relate to that? Or are all three of you just looking at me blank?
I don't relate to it. No, we relate to it.
We didn't say anything. Sorry. Yes. Yes. Okay. I need affirmation. Yeah.
My love language. I don't want to talk over, you know. Thank you.
As a podcast. Yeah. Yeah. So I like listening intently. Yeah.
Laura doesn't talk a lot at all. I don't. And it's challenged me to do that is listen, listen better and know how to have a conversation with somebody and it be intentional.
Yeah you get to know like John and I have known each other 25 years and I know her better now than I have ever interactions just because we've been able to like we talk deeper on a level knowing for sure, Boy, we've been growing a whole two sizes.

[59:54] Oh, wait, my heart's just getting bigger and bigger and bigger.
All right. Laura is an observer, though. Yeah, no, but this is a thing like on our podcast, like Adam and I go on tangents, but Laura drops, like, the funniest shit when she does.
Like, she she acts like she can't get a word in edgewise with. No, she does. She does.
But like I say it when she does get her word and she usually says like the best, she's sorry. Silent Laura.
It's like Brad, like he talks every once in a while. I listen to you guys podcast every week. I need it. That's why I need to do better on a regular, because I went to find. I'm like.
Because okay, I'm a podcast listener, so I set up schedules like this episode.
Oh, absolutely. God help me. This episode comes out No, not for me, but like, for what I listen to as a listener. I'm also a listener.
So like, if I'm out a podcast, I know Broad Mind comes out on this day or has been coming on this day, and then I go to look for your podcast and it's not out.
I don't have a new episode. I'm a me like, fuck broad minded like, okay, I'm not going to and this is this is podcasting 101.
Yeah. Tell me. No, tell me or you miss a week. The listeners will turn on you so fast. No, not that they won't come back.
They usually come back. Hey, four in the morning. More Hate.

[1:01:10] Me the next 48 hours. You got to be consistent. Be consistent on the time you drop schedule everything for the next day, even if it's just once a week.
Being consistent once a week for a week. Just if you want to drop more.
Go. So many of them. But have what I love, though.
I love it. I love the idea of it being just to like. But I love the idea.
But you say you want to get famous, right? But we're not podcast listeners, right?
But I am, I'm telling you. Right. That's what I'm saying. So it doesn't matter because we're not the people who listen to a podcast.
You want to get big, though, right? Yeah. No, what you're saying is absolutely right.
It should be listening to that. You got to love that. It's 20, 30 minutes because that's the amount of time that I want to spend listening to a podcast, right?
So once a week make me giggle for 20, 30 minutes.
Yeah, that's going to have at least now these, these, these I like that are when guests come that it's longer.
Yeah I think that's good because you can't we do an hour we don't like to go over an hour our retention you lose you lose after that hour but I'm telling you drop it it's a special, even if you're doing to do the 33 episodes seem like you did great do that, but you have to have an episode weekly.
At ready to go slotted ready or your listeners are going to mute.
Okay. All right. All right, All right. All right. I was ready to in to you.
I was like, if I told Laura I was really into her now. All right, I got it. I got it. I got it.
Okay. Reverse. Reverse. Do it.

[1:02:37] Did you guys good? I like your body. I enjoy listening. Thank you.
Thank you. That's ridiculous. Well, we're upset when we don't have one. Okay, I get it. I get it.
Keep going. Hey, does he get, like, super hyper focused on stuff?
Okay, ADHD and. But. But is that hard for you?
Yeah, because you are like, let me take a breath. Because you.

[1:03:01] This is how I am. I am an undercover OCD.
You are? Oh, am I not? Like people would be like Claire OCD.
And I'm like, Yeah, if you give me a plan, I'm like, I'm like, super. Like, I come off, like, super kind of unmotivated.
I don't think you do. That's what you have in your head.
But like, sorry, I like I to me, I feel like I'm a lazy person.
Like I feel like I'm a totally lazy person. So I come off to I feel like I come off as unmotivated, but I'm.

[1:03:39] I. Why do you feel that is OCD? Because, like, I have to do things every.
I have to do things in a very specific way and I have to do things.
And if you specifically and they have to be done that way, they have to be my way or it's not right.
It's not. So it has to be that way.
When we sat down and did this first podcast, did I not say that to you?
John I was like, Look, I've been letting everybody tell me for so long what I can do and how I should do it. And I listen to them and I usually don't care.
I was like, But I want to do this exactly the way I want to do this, and you got me, and I'm going to need you guys.
No, no, no, no. You're absolutely right. That's good. I will never get offended if somebody tells me. I just.
No, no, no, no. I need that. Because these two don't do that to me.
They don't tell you they're like their. Yes.
Because now, now they know Claire wants to do it her way. So they back up.
But then I'm like, Hey, why is nobody motivating me?

[1:04:37] That's fucking weird. Why am I not taking stuff for? Why am I like, what?

[1:04:44] Do you know what I mean? Yeah, like, I really I see that in you so much.
That's that article I sent you about New Year's. Anyways, anyways, so that's exactly how I am, is I was like, We're going to do this.
Exactly how I want to do this, and I need you guys to just roll with me.
I might be a bitch and I might be a slacker and I need you to.

[1:05:07] So undercover OCD. That's terrible. Hey. Hey.
It's not a bad thing. I'm learning it, though. I'm learning how you're not that far in this journey.
You're so 40. No, I mean the podcasting journey. No. Yeah. Yeah, You're such not. You're not even like. So let's go.
So you guys are not even.
Tactically? No. We're newbies, too. I mean, we're only 50. No, no, no. I'm talking. I'm going back to love.
We're going to jump back. Talk about this at all. Yeah, we're going to we're going to try to tie it up with love. Okay. Go for it. It's got to end with love. A little pre bow on it.
Well, let's talk about pretty love. Bow on it. You heard our love story. You heard how we met.
Yeah, but here's the thing, Jonah. They have a eight year.

[1:05:53] Successful marriage. They've worked really hard from your standpoint, probably, too.
Right. Yes. So new you got fresh meat.
What advice can you give Jonah and the newest parts of her or like, do you have any questions, Donna, Like for them every day. Just be honest.
That's my advice for sure.

[1:06:14] If honesty is not there, get the fuck out. Yeah. If there's any inkling, you're like, Oh, this guy's not being honest. Now I'm out.
You got time for this shit. That's right. I wasn't honest, though, for a minute.
It's bad, though. It was bad. And here's why I wasn't the honest, though.
Like, I look back and God, I hate when people say, like, don't play the victim.
But there are things that have happened into our life that do cause us that we need to acknowledge that says that changed the way I thought about that situation. Yeah.
And I would lie to him about the dumbest shit. I'm like, No, I didn't take the remote and it's in my lap, like, because I was afraid he was going to be mad at me if I lived in a relationship for 12 years.
I had been programmed for 12 fucking years to think that everything I did was wrong. I think Laura, Laura, you cry, relate to that. There's a lot of times where she's like, You know, when we first got together, we're like, I just.
I tell her she's beautiful or the most beautiful girl. I love you.
She's just like, I just don't believe you.
So I still think that there's an ounce of like, I still just don't believe you. Yeah.
Like, it's because she had a piece of shit and her life, they did piece of shit thing, right? And that's what sucks, right?
A piece of shit. I read a thing the other day that said that I.
Hold on. Let me let me think for a second because it was good with it.
It I realized why I was.

[1:07:39] I say this. Hold on. I'm looking at you because I need your help, Donna. When I can't decide things.

[1:07:46] I always say I have indecision.
Come on, guys. John. Brad. Fuck you guys.
Now you're more than I have. Like, brain fog. No, no, No decision paralysis.
You guys, That's what I call it. Yeah, they were. They've heard me talk about it. Brad hasn't, obviously, but. Decision.
Decision. Decision paralysis. I just realize this. It just. Just came to my brain a few months ago, and I was like, Oh, my God, I've had decision paralysis my whole life.
I have always thought that what I was going to do was not enough.
And I have have had situations where I did what I thought was enough.

[1:08:32] And in retrospect, I probably screwed it up myself, but it failed.
And so now I don't want to make any decisions about anything for seven years.
This man has given me permission to not make a damn decision because I, like, been healing my heart, almost like I'm like, I can't even make a decision about a vacation for us or a present for him some days.
That's ridiculous. That's. That's. That's. That's. But it's been like.

[1:08:58] Right. It is a big, small, big, big decision. Oh, yeah.
Because it's that it's it's if I don't have complete control, I don't want any control because when I've let somebody else, when I've, oh when I've had someone else help me with it, it didn't work out.
You don't want to blame the other person. Yeah. You want to take full responsibility.
Oh, yeah, I do. I do. I either want to win it all or I want to lose it all you don't want. But I hate having to look back and saying, you fuck this.
You did. You don't want to resent somebody, right? Yeah.
You want everybody to love you. And you know I don't care about that anymore.
Well, no, I don't. Well, you don't, do I? Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, no. I'll punch a bitch on her face. Yeah, but that doesn't necessarily.
That doesn't necessarily mean you want people to love you because you're that type of person where you want everybody to like love you, like you.
I would agree. But I would also say that in the last five, seven years, seven years growing, being able to grow and come in to like my own part.

[1:10:04] Like my own self love is it's mostly like if I gave it like, if you don't like me, that's okay.
I don't have to try anymore, right?
I don't care because I know I'm a good person. But maybe we just didn't mesh.
How long have you guys been okay? Seven years. Seven years? Yeah.
That's why. That's why you said.
I was wondering what that number was. Yeah. Seven years. I don't know.
Well, and it's just, like, just.
I don't know how this came to me, but I'm sorry if I overtook it, but that was a that's a huge thing for me.

[1:10:34] You're going to come do your thing. One of these days we're going to get you're going to get so deep, Jonah, all up in it.
I'm going to China, which actually I'm about to go do right now.
So I got to get. I know you do. I can tell her. Look, I know he about to go to work. I know John.
I know her. Look, she's telling you to go, period. She don't get it in.
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I'll put a link on our post that I schedule tonight at four in the morning.
When does this come out? I got to be.
Are you going to when are you going to when you get released?
So I'm going to release to tomorrow and there's no rhyme or reason. All right.
Tomorrow's Friday. So should I do Friday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday?
You should just do one day. Okay, Pick a day. But I have so many one.
I know, but that's good though.
You don't have at least one the week after that and then release one week after that. Make it easy. Just do one.

[1:11:55] No. Two, you're not. Most people do just one. I know, but here's my.
You will do it your way. Yeah. Again, you want to do your way.
My other thought is I'm going to try to start like coming in here by myself, in podcasting, by myself.
Then do two week know, be broad minded after dark with Claire and her fucking thoughts when she can't sleep at night. Do it. Do.
That's great. I should come in here and just fucking talk for 15 minutes about it. Release on Wednesday and Fridays.
Don't tell me what to do. Try, try, Try it. Try it for a whole month to release on two days.
Okay. But since next week is the week of love, I'm doing three.
Do you. Do you think? Oh, fuck. Ian Kevins.
Anyways, I don't know what I'm going to do, guys, so we don't know when it's coming out.
It's going to come out next week. You're sure it's going to come out next week?
All right, quick, quick turnaround. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Monday, yours is for sure. Going to come out Monday. Monday?
Yeah, Monday. Shoot. Because so we could talk about this on our podcast Monday morning.
Oh yeah. Yeah. Perfect. I will do that. And you guys tell me you guys come to ask.
Sure I do it not the same time because we don't do gang bangs.

[1:12:59] But you can come one at a time, but you can come and mentally support me.
I mean, you can't sit there. It's a small room, but it's not as big as this room.
I mean, very small. Stare at us. If you can, we can do it. I'll make sure toast, that day. We can do it after John leaves. I'm just kidding.
What? We want you both to Come on. You separate. Yeah, right.
I take it at you for podcast by Brian. Say bye bye. My piece out.