1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,320 Hello, welcome to another episode of Unpacking Neuroqueerness. Today, I have another guest on the podcast my friend Andrew 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:11,600 Forster 3 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:19,940 Andrew and I met at an autistic meetup of Square pegs autistic meetup up in Seattle a couple weeks ago 4 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,280 Welcome Andrew 5 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,800 Yes, thank you for coming on 6 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:33,240 So I'm gonna ask Andrew today a few different questions 7 00:00:35,480 --> 00:00:40,280 Special interests and then we're gonna talk about like a little bit about a 8 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,320 Few other things as well and just go from there. Anyways my first 9 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,440 But my first question for you today Andrew is 10 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:57,600 What is I like to ask this because it's weather is one of my special interests. So what is your favorite kind of weather? 11 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:00,920 That's a very good question 12 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:08,280 Depending on the season and time of year. I prefer dry weather 13 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,400 less on the 14 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:16,320 Community side because I'm still not used to it even though I'm originally from 15 00:01:16,320 --> 00:01:19,760 It's been kind of part of these 16 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:25,600 ways of surviving in a way how to describe it, but 17 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:30,160 It's been living with humidity. It's been very uncomfortable for me 18 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:37,240 Yeah, so that's that's definitely a good thing about living in in Seattle because you don't get I 19 00:01:37,960 --> 00:01:43,600 Mean I guess humidity. Do you mean like the heat and humidity or just humidity in general? 20 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:48,880 Oh here in Seattle where I've occurred living in its humidity in general 21 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,480 Cuz the higher amounts only occur 22 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,680 When the overall temperature is low 23 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:03,800 When it's 40s 50s 60s, I have a rough time being out there trying to enjoy the nice weather 24 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:09,240 Cuz I feel drained within the first five ten minutes at most 25 00:02:09,640 --> 00:02:11,640 Yeah 26 00:02:11,640 --> 00:02:16,160 And another thing I don't like about it when it's said that humid out there 27 00:02:16,640 --> 00:02:21,860 Around the run the temperature level it makes it difficult to stay awake for a certain day to get myself 28 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,280 motivated to do other things 29 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,760 Yeah 30 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,840 But when it comes to drier 31 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:37,640 Weather or drier heat when it's in the upper 70s or somewhere in the 80s to a certain level 32 00:02:37,640 --> 00:02:44,920 That I can even find almost out at Arizona level. Yeah, so like 33 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,480 Higher temperatures and lower humidity 34 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,720 Precisely, yeah 35 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:56,400 Yeah, definitely I can relate to that also I generally 36 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,720 tend to prefer cooler weather 37 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,440 But if it is warmer, I like it dry 38 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,440 Um, because yes 39 00:03:07,640 --> 00:03:10,440 Cuz yeah, if it's too humid 40 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,760 Then it gets so uncomfortable and sticky and I'm sure you've 41 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,960 Being from Chicago, you've experienced very hot and humid 42 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:26,040 Many times during the summer. It's really not worth it. Yeah 43 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,640 I mean if it was drier during the summer there, which is hardly ever is 44 00:03:30,640 --> 00:03:35,320 Then I would enjoy it better. What's this it hasn't been when I was there? 45 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,000 Yeah, now what do you? 46 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:48,240 What do you what's your favorite season? What would you say is your favorite season in Chicago and your favorite season in Seattle? 47 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,360 I see my favorite season in my hometown Chicago 48 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,280 It's actually a tiebreaker. It's between 49 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:02,920 the end of winter start of spring and 50 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,280 the 51 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:10,960 Midpoint of fall 52 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,960 to the start of winter 53 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:21,640 Cool, so that's like when it's starting to snow. Yeah, cool. Yeah 54 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:26,280 Yeah, so they've survived school but he blisters. Yeah 55 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:33,400 Do you do you think which one do you think is worse the winters or the summers in Chicago? 56 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,640 Both yeah 57 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,800 Equally it's just like I said, it's not worth it. Yeah 58 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,680 Well, the difference on my favorite weather is 59 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,120 There's spots or fair seasons here in Seattle 60 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,360 Actually any season 61 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:01,520 There's a bit to me from my observations for 12 years living out here on my own 62 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:08,240 Drub serving every single season I've been through since I moved out here 63 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,840 That's been very evil, especially during the winter time 64 00:05:12,840 --> 00:05:16,880 Yeah, even when it snows here, which hardly ever snows 65 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,960 It doesn't feel as chilly as how it would 66 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,880 Yeah, yeah, that's why I wanted to rare 67 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:32,600 Few of how many are out here that we're sure it's all year round 68 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,520 Yeah, yeah 69 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,080 that's 70 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,040 For sure, I can see I can see that how it's a 71 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,480 lot milder in the summer and 72 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:48,040 Like still comfortable but not oppressively hot and how it's 73 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,920 Milder in the winter too where we're like you said it gets 74 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:58,680 Yeah, it can snow a little bit but not as much and that it doesn't feel as chilly 75 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,760 Yeah, even though from a few years back 76 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,440 we had a 77 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:13,760 Blizzard of sorts here during that one winter it did close a lot of roads and a lot of businesses for 78 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,520 for the length of time but like 79 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,400 On the actual impoverished self 80 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:28,440 It still wasn't I didn't feel it that cold at all. Yeah, I mean being hot-blooded inside 81 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,200 It's not yeah 82 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:38,240 How cold like what's the coldest it'll usually get in Seattle in the winter 83 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,000 If we have snow it would probably be in 84 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,560 either teams 20s or low 30s definitely below freezing 85 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,440 In Chicago can get 86 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,080 Yeah 87 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,080 Like negative 88 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:02,320 Negative 10 or 20 yeah, sometimes you can be a little lower than that 89 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,440 location 90 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,520 Yeah 91 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:14,280 Yeah, the people keep on me and that global warming is becoming a big factor to this 92 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,880 Maybe it is maybe it's not I don't know 93 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,200 What people keep telling me yeah 94 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:30,400 Well, what I've what I've observed is that I think there's more extremes now. There's like more 95 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,640 Extreme cold and there's also more extreme heat 96 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,480 It seems like it's 97 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,240 Like at least in some places it used to 98 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:48,480 Not fluctuate as much and I feel like it's fluctuating a lot more now I 99 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,480 Have 100 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,600 Noticed it that much yeah 101 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,120 How it fluctuates up here 102 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,900 Maybe down in your area, but not up here. Yeah 103 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,360 Yeah, I think down here. It's been fluctuating more recently 104 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,000 What are 105 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:19,400 Okay, so what is your my next question is what is your favorite or most intense weather related memory? 106 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,080 Surviving the largest 107 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:29,080 Thunderblizzard back in Chicago before I moved out here in 2011 108 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,240 That was the most strongest 109 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:37,320 Kind of weather system I can recall in my entire lifetime 110 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,960 Everything was shut down including make sure it dried even that made the news 111 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,960 I 112 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,360 Could I had to miss at least two weeks of college 113 00:08:48,560 --> 00:08:55,040 You know because I couldn't get done there by car by other means of transportation 114 00:08:55,320 --> 00:09:00,600 Couldn't do nothing but even get to work on time either. So yeah, that was so 115 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,160 That was the worst one I can recall 116 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:09,760 How long was was everything closed like how long with her like power outages to yeah 117 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:15,840 There were some power outages here there. It didn't affect the house where I was living at though, but 118 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:24,440 Surrounding other blocks they get affected by it because a lot of the power lines were so frozen someone in broke 119 00:09:25,560 --> 00:09:27,560 to a point but 120 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,280 There was so much fetus stow out 121 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:35,920 There was so much fetus stow out there. It was about as bad 122 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,840 As I think the storm in 67 or 79 123 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:47,760 From what Bob and pop can tell me well. Yeah. Yeah, that was that intense but 124 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,400 That one on four weeks 125 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,160 Were you in Chicago for this? 126 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:01,240 Do you remember anything about the heat wave of 1995? 127 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,920 Yeah, I was there. I 128 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,320 was 129 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,120 graduating from 130 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,120 elementary school starting up high school 131 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,480 that year 132 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,760 That summer was cheese 133 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,920 We made a lot of record highs during that summer. Yeah, I 134 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,640 Remember watching yeah, right. We went to great America 135 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:31,040 And that was a bad time ago. We got totally sunburned. Well, yeah 136 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,360 It was I 137 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,800 remember watching like a documentary on the weather channel a long time ago 138 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,480 about the 1995 heat wave in Chicago and 139 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:46,400 how it was 140 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,960 Like the heat index was almost like a hundred and twenty degrees or something 141 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,880 It would that was out in the suburbs 142 00:10:55,560 --> 00:10:59,360 Yeah, but that index level because I was born in the 143 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:05,160 Obscurrence of the city in Northwest side in that area it 144 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,520 Barely made the index of a hundred 145 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:16,560 From what I can recall. Yeah, but it did last for almost the entire summer. Yeah, well, yeah 146 00:11:16,560 --> 00:11:21,200 My next question for you 147 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:29,120 More about your special interests. What are your favorite special interests and when did you get into how and when did you get into them? 148 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,520 Well, first off for me being on the spectrum video games 149 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:41,000 My entire life long thing involving technology since I was a little kid 150 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:45,520 Yeah, he's from a great first 151 00:11:47,680 --> 00:11:55,200 Computer system from way back when to first Atari first Nintendo systems 152 00:11:55,200 --> 00:12:07,800 Pretty much a little bit of everything cool. Cool. What are some of your favorite video games that you've had? 153 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,120 Plus this has been a fan of the retro ones 154 00:12:16,680 --> 00:12:19,280 Seeing more your cart start off 155 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,480 What else 156 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:30,200 The cruise in series who cruise in USA to the most reason one 157 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,280 What else 158 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:40,200 Extreme G collection that was a bit racing collection 159 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:47,800 And then there are a couple of retro shooters I like the doom collection series Sam 160 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:54,960 A little bit of halo along with it. Do no, actually that ties along with the doom guy right there. Ah 161 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:02,800 And there are a couple of puzzle games I like to dimensional tech trees. Dr. Mario 162 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,800 2048 163 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,080 Sudoku 164 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:15,000 I have mixed feelings for that one from time to time, but it's it's up there. Yeah, right 165 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,000 Yeah 166 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:22,920 Just recently I started to get into RPGs and JRPG's but that was so long 167 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,320 But other than that 168 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,840 Certain John Ray's really caught my eye 169 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:40,800 And every so often as I got an older I've been kind of changing into a different John Ray and so on and so forth 170 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:46,600 Hmm, but I but currently right now. I've been going back to retro stuff. This is 171 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,480 Yeah 172 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,480 nice 173 00:13:51,480 --> 00:14:00,000 What what would you say is your favorite if you have any like what is your favorite and least favorite? 174 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:02,920 Autism TV representation 175 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:15,440 Like show like if you've seen any shows with autistic characters and 176 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,520 What you don't like about those shows and what you like about them 177 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,360 Good example, but I like to spring big 178 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:32,040 Big bang theory. Yeah. Yeah, I had some interesting characters in there 179 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:37,760 Especially one that he doesn't he does put kind of portray someone who's on the spectrum 180 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:45,300 And I do learn from him on how he performed that character, but then there are times he kind of goes a 181 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:50,460 Little too far on overactive. Yeah, I agree. I 182 00:14:50,460 --> 00:14:58,820 In the later episodes. Yeah, I really I did watch the big bang theory a lot when I was younger because I did also 183 00:15:00,380 --> 00:15:02,140 Relate to 184 00:15:02,140 --> 00:15:04,620 Sheldon the main character. Yes. Yeah 185 00:15:05,380 --> 00:15:08,980 Yeah, cuz I there are just a lot of things that 186 00:15:10,020 --> 00:15:11,780 stood out like 187 00:15:11,780 --> 00:15:15,260 He also had a hard time like understanding like these 188 00:15:16,460 --> 00:15:18,460 social codes and stuff and 189 00:15:18,460 --> 00:15:19,620 and 190 00:15:19,620 --> 00:15:21,780 Saving yeah, and it like 191 00:15:23,380 --> 00:15:26,540 Things that yeah, it's just a lot about him like 192 00:15:28,540 --> 00:15:30,540 Sensory stuff and 193 00:15:33,220 --> 00:15:37,020 Like being like having special interests and being really 194 00:15:38,620 --> 00:15:40,620 Focused on his work and like 195 00:15:40,620 --> 00:15:50,940 Yeah, and I also have this similar feelings like I think a lot of it felt pretty accurate like in terms of 196 00:15:51,220 --> 00:15:55,260 at least my experience and things that I could identify with and 197 00:15:56,380 --> 00:16:02,020 There were also some parts where it felt like they were stretching in a little bit where I 198 00:16:02,980 --> 00:16:08,060 Feel like for me and I've heard this from like a few other people too is that 199 00:16:08,060 --> 00:16:11,060 he would say something 200 00:16:13,420 --> 00:16:21,060 Out loud about like a certain situation that I necessarily it's like I'm thinking that in my head 201 00:16:21,060 --> 00:16:24,700 But I don't usually say it and I think that's 202 00:16:26,060 --> 00:16:28,060 Somewhere that was 203 00:16:29,140 --> 00:16:36,580 That they missed like like Sheldon would always say it and so I felt like that was like you said a little bit over 204 00:16:36,580 --> 00:16:40,620 Active or over over over acted. Yeah, yeah 205 00:16:42,340 --> 00:16:44,340 Yeah, and 206 00:16:45,140 --> 00:16:47,140 Gosh, I had another 207 00:16:47,900 --> 00:16:49,900 Thought it escaped my head, but 208 00:16:52,140 --> 00:16:58,540 Do you any other like shows with autistic characters that you related to 209 00:16:59,300 --> 00:17:05,100 Monk Monk cool. I don't think I've seen I've heard of Monk. I haven't seen it. But what was your? 210 00:17:05,100 --> 00:17:08,700 the character himself on how he 211 00:17:09,580 --> 00:17:11,180 able to 212 00:17:11,180 --> 00:17:13,180 solve each mystery 213 00:17:13,860 --> 00:17:17,260 by using a lot of his phobias and 214 00:17:18,420 --> 00:17:20,420 Help him think 215 00:17:20,540 --> 00:17:24,380 And figure it out how the clues add up 216 00:17:24,860 --> 00:17:30,160 And who was the actual suspect to each one that kind of thing well 217 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,460 He was trying to solve the ongoing murder of his wife 218 00:17:33,460 --> 00:17:38,840 I see yeah, yeah that I can relate to like wanting to solve and like 219 00:17:39,860 --> 00:17:42,180 Investigate and having a very curious mind 220 00:17:43,060 --> 00:17:45,060 What are some ways that you feel? 221 00:17:46,140 --> 00:17:48,140 misunderstood and 222 00:17:48,580 --> 00:17:53,780 You wish that like what are some of the things that you struggle with the most? 223 00:17:53,780 --> 00:18:02,140 With when communicating with neurotypicals and that you wish that they did a better job of understanding 224 00:18:04,100 --> 00:18:07,540 I've always been misunderstood by a lot of neurotypicals 225 00:18:08,300 --> 00:18:12,740 been trying to get to know them better and hang out with them and what but 226 00:18:13,700 --> 00:18:17,040 This is still very difficult to this day. You can't do 227 00:18:18,260 --> 00:18:20,260 Can't be on the same page with 228 00:18:20,260 --> 00:18:26,780 Yeah, whatever they're talking about. Yeah, I tried my best to get to that same level with you 229 00:18:27,820 --> 00:18:33,860 No, it turns out they keep telling me I'm more smarter than they are so I try to dump myself down and I can help 230 00:18:35,700 --> 00:18:40,620 See expect me to do yeah, I feel like it's really complicated because 231 00:18:42,020 --> 00:18:45,380 She's the same thing with my family 232 00:18:45,380 --> 00:18:51,340 I'm trying to be on the same page with them and me being the eldest son who's on the spectrum 233 00:18:53,620 --> 00:18:55,860 Whatever they try to bring up 234 00:18:56,780 --> 00:18:59,700 It's not being on the same page what I'm trying to do 235 00:19:00,380 --> 00:19:02,380 But it's talking about the same top 236 00:19:04,060 --> 00:19:08,180 And whatever I'm at the same page with them they get upset with me 237 00:19:09,420 --> 00:19:12,260 Yeah, no, I relate a lot to like being 238 00:19:12,260 --> 00:19:14,260 told that I'm doing 239 00:19:16,100 --> 00:19:18,700 like I'm overthinking something or 240 00:19:20,060 --> 00:19:21,620 I'm getting 241 00:19:21,620 --> 00:19:28,780 Like I'm doing too much of something or I'm not doing enough of something like it's exactly what I'm going to yeah 242 00:19:28,780 --> 00:19:30,780 It's really fun training because it's 243 00:19:31,580 --> 00:19:33,180 Yeah, I 244 00:19:33,180 --> 00:19:39,220 Yeah, it does. Yeah, because it's like you can't because like we're trying so hard to 245 00:19:39,220 --> 00:19:47,020 To find that balance and it's really hard because it's just like I can't I can't seem to get it right either 246 00:19:48,020 --> 00:19:51,140 That's how I feel every time every single day 247 00:19:52,420 --> 00:19:54,420 Even the most simplest things 248 00:19:55,620 --> 00:19:57,620 You become complicated 249 00:19:58,060 --> 00:20:03,100 Yeah, it's yeah, it has a lot. Do you also struggle with? 250 00:20:03,100 --> 00:20:07,100 being told that 251 00:20:09,060 --> 00:20:11,060 Being told that you're 252 00:20:13,740 --> 00:20:18,780 That like people thinking that you're lying because you're yes, yeah 253 00:20:19,900 --> 00:20:24,740 Yeah, cuz cuz they think that because we communicate so directly and they're 254 00:20:26,100 --> 00:20:28,100 constantly like looking for 255 00:20:28,100 --> 00:20:34,380 Subtext they think that we're like saying they're like looking for things that we're not 256 00:20:34,780 --> 00:20:37,300 Saying and they think that we're hiding something 257 00:20:37,980 --> 00:20:39,980 But we're just 258 00:20:39,900 --> 00:20:42,140 Yeah, they're using us 259 00:20:43,500 --> 00:20:48,620 For us being the exaggerators even though we're trying to be truthful and honest about whatever it is 260 00:20:49,580 --> 00:20:53,620 The arguments about yeah, but they're not believing 261 00:20:53,620 --> 00:20:58,500 Yeah, they soon when exaggerates 262 00:21:00,660 --> 00:21:02,660 Yeah, exactly 263 00:21:03,460 --> 00:21:06,740 So yeah, no, it's um I 264 00:21:08,300 --> 00:21:12,300 Experienced that too where like I'm exaggerating or I'm 265 00:21:13,900 --> 00:21:16,580 Yeah, like I'm overthinking or I'm 266 00:21:18,820 --> 00:21:20,820 Yeah, like I'm projecting 267 00:21:20,820 --> 00:21:29,860 But I'm just like thinking of I'm just seeing the reality. I'm I'm just like trying to say yeah 268 00:21:29,860 --> 00:21:33,140 Like this is what we need to do because this is what's happening 269 00:21:34,260 --> 00:21:36,260 This situation 270 00:21:36,900 --> 00:21:40,500 When whatever the topic is that turns out to be an argument 271 00:21:41,020 --> 00:21:45,820 Whenever I try to bring my side of whatever it is to get done the same page there 272 00:21:45,820 --> 00:21:50,500 They automatically stop me right there to assume you're exaggerating. We don't believe a word what you say 273 00:21:51,060 --> 00:21:56,380 That's when I get super defensive and overreact and overthink or whatever 274 00:21:56,700 --> 00:22:01,100 And it drains energy out of me to get their attention that I'm not 275 00:22:01,820 --> 00:22:06,380 Doing that. I'm being honest and truthful to be on the same level as you guys 276 00:22:07,260 --> 00:22:09,260 But they don't believe 277 00:22:10,660 --> 00:22:12,940 Yeah, it was the point 278 00:22:12,940 --> 00:22:16,460 Yeah, it's really frustrating and it is like I've had a lot of 279 00:22:18,140 --> 00:22:20,140 People that I just kind of 280 00:22:23,140 --> 00:22:29,700 Gave up on on having any kind of relationship with or because they don't yeah 281 00:22:33,940 --> 00:22:35,940 Have there been any 282 00:22:35,940 --> 00:22:41,940 Have you have like over time have you come across any people that 283 00:22:42,940 --> 00:22:47,940 Like made some effort to understand you and like they've and what are 284 00:22:48,940 --> 00:22:50,940 Like has that happened with any people? 285 00:22:52,940 --> 00:22:59,940 My artistic friends who get along well with me. We get along the same level and page all the time. Yeah 286 00:22:59,940 --> 00:23:04,940 And that seems to be the only group I'm familiar with now. I also find that 287 00:23:05,940 --> 00:23:07,940 Most of the people like I'm 288 00:23:08,940 --> 00:23:10,940 Lucky that like there's some 289 00:23:12,940 --> 00:23:15,940 Some neurotypical people that I know that I feel like they 290 00:23:17,940 --> 00:23:22,940 They make a little effort to understand me and I think they're getting a little better, but 291 00:23:23,940 --> 00:23:25,940 It's they still it's hot water 292 00:23:25,940 --> 00:23:31,940 I feel like the people that I feel that I can relate to the most 293 00:23:32,940 --> 00:23:38,940 Are autistic people because we're just thinking like we're on the same frequency. We're thinking on the same level 294 00:23:39,940 --> 00:23:44,940 Even people with ADHD that aren't autistic. I feel 295 00:23:45,940 --> 00:23:50,940 A little more understood than than I do with neurotypicals 296 00:23:50,940 --> 00:23:54,940 Yeah, right, but I think 297 00:23:55,940 --> 00:23:58,940 It with autistic people is where I feel the most 298 00:23:59,940 --> 00:24:05,940 Comfortable like I feel I just feel like we we're on the same level and we we get it like we 299 00:24:06,940 --> 00:24:10,940 Like even though we all have different experiences with our lives 300 00:24:11,940 --> 00:24:14,940 It's it's sort of like we speak the same language 301 00:24:14,940 --> 00:24:20,940 In a way, yeah, yeah, I did learn something though throughout my lifetime when it becomes to 302 00:24:21,940 --> 00:24:29,940 At least trying my best to be on the same level with anyone who's not a spectrum. I know who's not 303 00:24:30,940 --> 00:24:32,940 Theater comedy theater 304 00:24:33,940 --> 00:24:37,940 That improved my self 305 00:24:38,940 --> 00:24:40,940 I 306 00:24:40,940 --> 00:24:43,940 Improved my self 307 00:24:44,940 --> 00:24:46,940 Outside of that 308 00:24:47,940 --> 00:24:49,940 To be more myself 309 00:24:50,940 --> 00:24:53,940 And to make them understand more but 310 00:24:54,940 --> 00:24:57,940 Even though it's more entertaining in a way 311 00:24:58,940 --> 00:25:00,940 From their point of view 312 00:25:00,940 --> 00:25:07,940 When I'm trying to get the same meaning same seriousness as they are when I am 313 00:25:07,940 --> 00:25:09,940 Yeah 314 00:25:10,940 --> 00:25:17,940 Yeah, so you feel like when you're doing comedy and comedy theater, they're more 315 00:25:19,940 --> 00:25:20,940 It's easier 316 00:25:21,940 --> 00:25:23,940 Just anything involving a big life 317 00:25:26,940 --> 00:25:28,940 While trying to be serious 318 00:25:29,940 --> 00:25:31,940 It does make it entertaining at all 319 00:25:31,940 --> 00:25:34,940 But I'm still trying my best to get the point out there 320 00:25:34,940 --> 00:25:38,940 Yeah, even with some kind of facial reaction 321 00:25:39,940 --> 00:25:42,940 You know, comedically reaction kind of thing 322 00:25:43,940 --> 00:25:44,940 Yeah 323 00:25:45,940 --> 00:25:51,940 Yeah, that's good. That's another really tricky part is their the facial reactions going back to like 324 00:25:52,940 --> 00:25:56,940 How neurotypicals can misunderstand us a lot is I feel like they're 325 00:25:57,940 --> 00:25:59,940 They think that 326 00:25:59,940 --> 00:26:07,940 Like they have this idea that certain faces will always correspond to certain feelings and like sometimes 327 00:26:08,940 --> 00:26:15,940 Like what happens to me is that sometimes I'll be really I'll be actually like excited or happy about something 328 00:26:16,940 --> 00:26:23,940 And I'm just not showing it like my face isn't as excited doesn't maybe look as excited as I am 329 00:26:23,940 --> 00:26:30,940 And then they interpret that they think that I'm not excited or they think that I'm lying if I tell them that I am excited 330 00:26:32,940 --> 00:26:33,940 And 331 00:26:36,940 --> 00:26:41,940 So I don't know like it that's something that that's happened with me before 332 00:26:43,940 --> 00:26:48,940 But it depends like sometimes it's also something that I've been able to kind of like 333 00:26:48,940 --> 00:26:56,940 Over time figure out like these different expressions and like how they use them and then kind of apply that also and then 334 00:26:57,940 --> 00:27:02,940 Some days I actually have more more success with that but 335 00:27:04,940 --> 00:27:07,940 It just makes me think a lot about how 336 00:27:09,940 --> 00:27:12,940 Like we're usually the ones that have to do all that work 337 00:27:12,940 --> 00:27:17,940 With like trying to understand them and trying to adapt. Yes. Yeah 338 00:27:19,940 --> 00:27:20,940 And another thought 339 00:27:22,940 --> 00:27:24,940 It just came briefly in my head but then 340 00:27:25,940 --> 00:27:26,940 Yeah 341 00:27:28,940 --> 00:27:30,940 Well I've learned recently 342 00:27:31,940 --> 00:27:33,940 Yeah, I've learned recently 343 00:27:34,940 --> 00:27:36,940 I've learned recently 344 00:27:37,940 --> 00:27:39,940 I've learned recently 345 00:27:39,940 --> 00:27:41,940 I've learned recently 346 00:27:42,940 --> 00:27:45,940 To rely less on thinking because 347 00:27:46,940 --> 00:27:49,940 Like you mentioned at the beginning that we overthink too often 348 00:27:50,940 --> 00:27:55,940 So what I've learned philosophy philosophically is to rely less on that 349 00:27:56,940 --> 00:27:59,940 And just observe through your eyes 350 00:28:00,940 --> 00:28:04,940 Yeah, as you find anything that catches your attention to your eyes only 351 00:28:04,940 --> 00:28:07,940 Then there'll be something to talk about 352 00:28:08,940 --> 00:28:12,940 It may be ongoing, maybe a short one, who knows 353 00:28:13,940 --> 00:28:16,940 But you could do it that way 354 00:28:19,940 --> 00:28:21,940 You have to write them on detail 355 00:28:22,940 --> 00:28:23,940 You know what you're observing 356 00:28:24,940 --> 00:28:26,940 Relying less on thinking about it 357 00:28:27,940 --> 00:28:29,940 I mean still think about it but not 358 00:28:30,940 --> 00:28:31,940 Think about it too much 359 00:28:31,940 --> 00:28:35,940 Then maybe the neurotypicals might be able to understand 360 00:28:36,940 --> 00:28:38,940 Whatever the heck it is you're talking about 361 00:28:39,940 --> 00:28:42,940 Yeah, yeah, no that makes sense. Yeah, because I do get 362 00:28:43,940 --> 00:28:48,940 I feel like a lot of it is like when I go to talk to someone that's neurotypical 363 00:28:49,940 --> 00:28:54,940 I feel like I kind of tense up and I like start thinking a lot about 364 00:28:56,940 --> 00:28:59,940 About trying to script what I'm gonna say and how it's gonna go 365 00:28:59,940 --> 00:29:06,940 But if I just go more naturally from what I'm feeling and not thinking too much 366 00:29:07,940 --> 00:29:09,940 It does make it easier 367 00:29:10,940 --> 00:29:14,940 Yeah, because I've also learned when you overtake it does make your head hurt 368 00:29:15,940 --> 00:29:17,940 Yeah, oh my gosh, yeah definitely 369 00:29:18,940 --> 00:29:20,940 I've experienced that 370 00:29:23,940 --> 00:29:27,940 I did remember what I wanted to ask 371 00:29:27,940 --> 00:29:28,940 Oh good 372 00:29:29,940 --> 00:29:34,940 Gifting because that's okay another I was wondering if you struggle with receiving gifts as well 373 00:29:35,940 --> 00:29:36,940 Because 374 00:29:37,940 --> 00:29:38,940 Like the they 375 00:29:39,940 --> 00:29:45,940 What happens with me is they want to see they want me to open the gift in front of me 376 00:29:46,940 --> 00:29:51,940 And I get really worried about how they're gonna interpret my reaction 377 00:29:52,940 --> 00:29:54,940 I was wondering if you experienced that too 378 00:29:54,940 --> 00:29:58,940 If you feel shy when opening gifts in front of people 379 00:30:00,940 --> 00:30:04,940 When it comes to opening gifts I don't like doing it anytime because I receive them quite often 380 00:30:07,940 --> 00:30:08,940 I'm always happy for it 381 00:30:09,940 --> 00:30:13,940 Yeah, no, I think it's like the the receiving the gift itself I like 382 00:30:14,940 --> 00:30:15,940 It's just sometimes like 383 00:30:16,940 --> 00:30:21,940 Opening it in front of people makes me makes me nervous because I worried that they're gonna 384 00:30:21,940 --> 00:30:23,940 I 385 00:30:23,940 --> 00:30:25,940 Never know 386 00:30:25,940 --> 00:30:27,940 Okay, yeah 387 00:30:27,940 --> 00:30:31,940 No, I've always been the very source full type of a bit 388 00:30:31,940 --> 00:30:35,940 For being on the spectrum is just even though that's the total opposite 389 00:30:36,940 --> 00:30:37,940 What 390 00:30:38,940 --> 00:30:41,940 It's just one of things that I seem to overcome 391 00:30:41,940 --> 00:30:42,940 Throughout my life 392 00:30:43,940 --> 00:30:44,940 Yeah, it still is 393 00:30:44,940 --> 00:30:46,940 So I see well that's yeah 394 00:30:46,940 --> 00:30:51,940 One of the pipes about that is once you get to meet and read other people's 395 00:30:51,940 --> 00:30:53,940 No matter where you live in it, especially here 396 00:30:54,940 --> 00:30:57,940 Eventually they help you out in return 397 00:30:57,940 --> 00:30:58,940 Yeah 398 00:30:58,940 --> 00:30:59,940 In unexpected moments 399 00:30:59,940 --> 00:31:04,940 So that's that's one of the pipes of surviving on your own living independently 400 00:31:04,940 --> 00:31:05,940 A lot of free stuff 401 00:31:05,940 --> 00:31:06,940 Yeah 402 00:31:06,940 --> 00:31:08,940 It's very useful to you do not 403 00:31:08,940 --> 00:31:09,940 He's the thing 404 00:31:09,940 --> 00:31:12,940 Here's what I do not to suggest to look at 405 00:31:12,940 --> 00:31:15,940 Do not take advantage of it 406 00:31:15,940 --> 00:31:19,940 Do not think of it as a thing advantage of anyone that they could try to get to know 407 00:31:19,940 --> 00:31:21,940 Never look at it like that 408 00:31:21,940 --> 00:31:22,940 Yeah 409 00:31:22,940 --> 00:31:29,940 Just look at them as neighbors friends just regular people always looking out for you 410 00:31:29,940 --> 00:31:30,940 Vice versa 411 00:31:31,940 --> 00:31:35,940 And that's what I've been doing living on my own for 12 years 412 00:31:37,940 --> 00:31:38,940 And every so often 413 00:31:38,940 --> 00:31:42,940 They help me out with whatever I'm going through 414 00:31:42,940 --> 00:31:43,940 Yeah 415 00:31:43,940 --> 00:31:44,940 Yeah 416 00:31:44,940 --> 00:31:46,940 It's just like they're treating me as family 417 00:31:46,940 --> 00:31:47,940 Yeah 418 00:31:47,940 --> 00:31:48,940 Yeah 419 00:31:48,940 --> 00:31:49,940 Family guy 420 00:31:49,940 --> 00:31:50,940 Yeah 421 00:31:50,940 --> 00:31:55,940 Yeah, I think it's always nice when you're able to develop 422 00:31:56,940 --> 00:32:00,940 A connection enough of a connection with someone and then like 423 00:32:01,940 --> 00:32:05,940 Helping them out with certain things that it ends up 424 00:32:05,940 --> 00:32:08,940 They're more inclined to help you out when 425 00:32:09,940 --> 00:32:10,940 When they're more than a cent 426 00:32:10,940 --> 00:32:11,940 Yeah 427 00:32:11,940 --> 00:32:12,940 Yeah 428 00:32:12,940 --> 00:32:13,940 Makes sense 429 00:32:13,940 --> 00:32:14,940 Gosh, I'm still trying 430 00:32:14,940 --> 00:32:16,940 I have a few more questions planned too 431 00:32:16,940 --> 00:32:17,940 But I'm still 432 00:32:17,940 --> 00:32:22,940 I still keep trying to remember what I wanted to ask you about the big bang theory 433 00:32:22,940 --> 00:32:23,940 Right 434 00:32:23,940 --> 00:32:26,940 I hope it comes back to me at some point 435 00:32:26,940 --> 00:32:27,940 Yeah, well 436 00:32:27,940 --> 00:32:28,940 Yeah 437 00:32:28,940 --> 00:32:29,940 Well 438 00:32:29,940 --> 00:32:32,940 I hope it comes back to me at some point 439 00:32:32,940 --> 00:32:35,940 It will, it will eventually 440 00:32:35,940 --> 00:32:36,940 Yeah 441 00:32:36,940 --> 00:32:41,940 I wanted to ask you also more about like just in general 442 00:32:41,940 --> 00:32:44,940 Because I know we talked like weather related things in between 443 00:32:44,940 --> 00:32:45,940 Yeah 444 00:32:45,940 --> 00:32:47,940 Chicago and Seattle or the West Coast 445 00:32:47,940 --> 00:32:48,940 But 446 00:32:48,940 --> 00:32:49,940 Why? 447 00:32:49,940 --> 00:32:54,940 What do you like to if we if we think of it more just like in general 448 00:32:54,940 --> 00:32:59,940 What are some of the things in general you like better about Chicago 449 00:32:59,940 --> 00:33:02,940 And that you like better about Seattle 450 00:33:02,940 --> 00:33:06,940 Well I like to buy Chicago for the important race from 451 00:33:06,940 --> 00:33:07,940 These 452 00:33:09,940 --> 00:33:13,940 These two people, certain types of people that I've met over the years 453 00:33:13,940 --> 00:33:15,940 Well the important race 454 00:33:15,940 --> 00:33:18,940 Who would hang out with, who would try that kind of thing 455 00:33:18,940 --> 00:33:20,940 I always wanted things I enjoyed 456 00:33:22,940 --> 00:33:26,940 The other thing to tie along with that is a lot of good eateries 457 00:33:26,940 --> 00:33:28,940 When they were around 458 00:33:28,940 --> 00:33:33,940 When I was a child to a teenager 459 00:33:33,940 --> 00:33:35,940 To a teenager 460 00:33:37,940 --> 00:33:40,940 But as I got older to a young adulthood 461 00:33:40,940 --> 00:33:43,940 When I was a great turn 21 462 00:33:43,940 --> 00:33:45,940 Things just kind of 463 00:33:45,940 --> 00:33:50,940 Based out in a way to a point that it was going to be my time to 464 00:33:50,940 --> 00:33:54,940 Start moving out and living on my own and trying something different 465 00:33:54,940 --> 00:33:56,940 And that's what I've been doing ever since I 466 00:33:56,940 --> 00:33:58,940 To where I'm at now 467 00:33:58,940 --> 00:34:01,940 But in relation to that 468 00:34:01,940 --> 00:34:04,940 I've actually been familiar with the Seattle area 469 00:34:04,940 --> 00:34:08,940 Since our first family trip back in 88 470 00:34:08,940 --> 00:34:09,940 Wow 471 00:34:09,940 --> 00:34:13,940 So technically I know this area way back then 472 00:34:13,940 --> 00:34:15,940 I see 473 00:34:15,940 --> 00:34:18,940 What made you, what prompted 474 00:34:18,940 --> 00:34:20,940 What did you really like about 475 00:34:21,940 --> 00:34:25,940 Seattle that prompted you to decide to move there from Chicago 476 00:34:25,940 --> 00:34:29,940 Location, air quality, people 477 00:34:29,940 --> 00:34:33,940 A lot more work opportunities 478 00:34:35,940 --> 00:34:38,940 Just felt like my second home 479 00:34:38,940 --> 00:34:39,940 Yeah, nice 480 00:34:39,940 --> 00:34:43,940 And what would you say are the main differences like 481 00:34:43,940 --> 00:34:45,940 Culturally like with the people 482 00:34:45,940 --> 00:34:49,940 Like the main differences that you like better about 483 00:34:49,940 --> 00:34:51,940 Seattle people than Chicago people 484 00:34:51,940 --> 00:34:57,940 From my experiences with Seattle people 485 00:34:57,940 --> 00:34:59,940 We get along really great 486 00:34:59,940 --> 00:35:00,940 Yeah 487 00:35:00,940 --> 00:35:03,940 But with the people in Chicago 488 00:35:03,940 --> 00:35:07,940 There are certain types we do get along great 489 00:35:07,940 --> 00:35:09,940 But that percentage is very small 490 00:35:09,940 --> 00:35:13,940 Here it's a lot more wide open 491 00:35:13,940 --> 00:35:14,940 Yeah 492 00:35:14,940 --> 00:35:17,940 They really look out for you 493 00:35:17,940 --> 00:35:20,940 Especially in the area that I live on the 494 00:35:20,940 --> 00:35:22,940 East side of Lake Washington 495 00:35:22,940 --> 00:35:24,940 They really look out for you 496 00:35:24,940 --> 00:35:26,940 Possibly there are some I know 497 00:35:26,940 --> 00:35:30,940 On the other side of the lake in the downtown Seattle area 498 00:35:30,940 --> 00:35:31,940 Or north of that 499 00:35:31,940 --> 00:35:35,940 But while I'm currently living there right now 500 00:35:35,940 --> 00:35:38,940 I've been in much better 501 00:35:38,940 --> 00:35:41,940 There's people here understand 502 00:35:41,940 --> 00:35:42,940 Yeah 503 00:35:42,940 --> 00:35:43,940 And I understand them 504 00:35:43,940 --> 00:35:48,940 So you feel a lot more understood in Seattle than Chicago 505 00:35:48,940 --> 00:35:50,940 Yes, I've been in wave 506 00:35:50,940 --> 00:35:52,940 Yeah 507 00:35:52,940 --> 00:35:55,940 Even though mom and pop still want me to move back home 508 00:35:55,940 --> 00:35:58,940 Because they're old and retired and all that stuff 509 00:35:58,940 --> 00:36:01,940 And me being the oldest son and all that jazz here 510 00:36:01,940 --> 00:36:03,940 But I love them dearly 511 00:36:03,940 --> 00:36:05,940 And I keep telling them 512 00:36:05,940 --> 00:36:07,940 I'm already rooted out here 513 00:36:07,940 --> 00:36:10,940 My younger brother who lives here right by you 514 00:36:10,940 --> 00:36:13,940 He's already been rooted out there in the same time zone 515 00:36:13,940 --> 00:36:16,940 So we ain't moving back anytime soon 516 00:36:16,940 --> 00:36:18,940 Yeah 517 00:36:21,940 --> 00:36:23,940 Gosh now I 518 00:36:27,940 --> 00:36:29,940 So I think 519 00:36:29,940 --> 00:36:32,940 I'm like trying to remember that 520 00:36:32,940 --> 00:36:35,940 That thing about the Big Bang Theory 521 00:36:40,940 --> 00:36:44,940 Let's see, I think it was 522 00:36:44,940 --> 00:36:47,940 I mean this might be a different question 523 00:36:47,940 --> 00:36:50,940 But maybe it will lead me to the original one 524 00:36:50,940 --> 00:36:53,940 What was, how did you discover it? 525 00:36:53,940 --> 00:36:57,940 Like when was the first time you saw the Big Bang Theory? 526 00:37:01,940 --> 00:37:05,940 Probably when we still had 527 00:37:05,940 --> 00:37:08,940 Cable TV 528 00:37:08,940 --> 00:37:12,940 So that was, oh gosh 529 00:37:12,940 --> 00:37:16,940 I think the first episode was aired in 530 00:37:16,940 --> 00:37:19,940 The mid-2000s 531 00:37:19,940 --> 00:37:21,940 2007 I think 532 00:37:21,940 --> 00:37:25,940 Yeah, so we was around the time when we were 533 00:37:25,940 --> 00:37:29,940 Ending to have Cable TV 534 00:37:29,940 --> 00:37:33,940 And that's when I saw a couple of commercials about it 535 00:37:33,940 --> 00:37:36,940 But I didn't have a chance to actually see the episodes then 536 00:37:36,940 --> 00:37:38,940 Until many years later 537 00:37:38,940 --> 00:37:40,940 Yeah 538 00:37:40,940 --> 00:37:44,940 Cool, I think it was around that same time that I 539 00:37:44,940 --> 00:37:47,940 Started watching it as well 540 00:37:47,940 --> 00:37:50,940 It was also like I saw it on Cable TV 541 00:37:50,940 --> 00:37:54,940 Like I would see a few episodes 542 00:37:54,940 --> 00:37:59,940 And then I think I ended up watching them 543 00:37:59,940 --> 00:38:02,940 Like later on 544 00:38:02,940 --> 00:38:05,940 And 545 00:38:05,940 --> 00:38:07,940 Yeah, I could relate 546 00:38:07,940 --> 00:38:11,940 Sheldon of course was the main character that I 547 00:38:11,940 --> 00:38:14,940 Related to 548 00:38:14,940 --> 00:38:17,940 And then of course some of the other characters also 549 00:38:17,940 --> 00:38:20,940 Like you said, what were and what were 550 00:38:20,940 --> 00:38:25,940 What were like some of your other favorite characters and why? 551 00:38:30,940 --> 00:38:34,940 The other main protagonist 552 00:38:34,940 --> 00:38:37,940 The one with the glasses 553 00:38:37,940 --> 00:38:40,940 Yeah, he was one of my other favorites 554 00:38:40,940 --> 00:38:43,940 Every time when he would get an argument with Sheldon 555 00:38:43,940 --> 00:38:47,940 Or with someone else, depending on using the terminology 556 00:38:47,940 --> 00:38:50,940 Or just being himself 557 00:38:50,940 --> 00:38:53,940 I can really do this level 558 00:38:53,940 --> 00:38:57,940 Yeah, I liked the other two 559 00:38:57,940 --> 00:39:01,940 Yeah, but for the other one 560 00:39:01,940 --> 00:39:05,940 I can't 561 00:39:05,940 --> 00:39:07,940 I don't know 562 00:39:07,940 --> 00:39:10,940 Howard or Rej? 563 00:39:10,940 --> 00:39:13,940 Howard, yeah 564 00:39:13,940 --> 00:39:17,940 I can also relate to him during the first two seasons 565 00:39:17,940 --> 00:39:19,940 Before he met his girlfriend 566 00:39:19,940 --> 00:39:24,940 They would always have trouble finding that right one 567 00:39:24,940 --> 00:39:27,940 Yeah 568 00:39:27,940 --> 00:39:29,940 Yeah, exactly, yeah 569 00:39:29,940 --> 00:39:32,940 I can relate to that too 570 00:39:32,940 --> 00:39:34,940 But with Leonard when he 571 00:39:34,940 --> 00:39:39,940 You know, I just connected with Paulie 572 00:39:39,940 --> 00:39:42,940 He just wanted to do this 573 00:39:42,940 --> 00:39:44,940 Penny 574 00:39:44,940 --> 00:39:46,940 Yeah, thank you 575 00:39:46,940 --> 00:39:49,940 Yeah, when he got connected with her 576 00:39:49,940 --> 00:39:52,940 It was like 577 00:39:52,940 --> 00:39:54,940 I know how to do it now 578 00:39:54,940 --> 00:39:56,940 Yeah, yeah 579 00:39:56,940 --> 00:39:59,940 I remember Leonard and Penny 580 00:39:59,940 --> 00:40:03,940 He had a crush on her from the very beginning 581 00:40:03,940 --> 00:40:09,940 And then she was dating a bunch of other guys 582 00:40:09,940 --> 00:40:12,940 And then they ended up getting together 583 00:40:12,940 --> 00:40:17,940 And then eventually Sheldon 584 00:40:17,940 --> 00:40:20,940 Ends up dating Amy 585 00:40:20,940 --> 00:40:23,940 What do you think of Amy? 586 00:40:23,940 --> 00:40:26,940 She's a definite match for him 587 00:40:26,940 --> 00:40:29,940 Yeah 588 00:40:29,940 --> 00:40:30,940 In so many ways 589 00:40:30,940 --> 00:40:32,940 Yeah, I agree 590 00:40:32,940 --> 00:40:35,940 I remember watching their first date 591 00:40:35,940 --> 00:40:41,940 And I was like, wow, yeah, this is like a 592 00:40:41,940 --> 00:40:46,940 Basically a woman version of Sheldon 593 00:40:46,940 --> 00:40:48,940 Yeah 594 00:40:48,940 --> 00:40:58,940 Questions 595 00:40:58,940 --> 00:41:01,940 What were some of your favorite parts of the show 596 00:41:01,940 --> 00:41:05,940 And would you say in general? 597 00:41:05,940 --> 00:41:07,940 If you had any 598 00:41:07,940 --> 00:41:11,940 Each episode by using the scientific terminology 599 00:41:11,940 --> 00:41:14,940 And see if there was an exact meaning 600 00:41:14,940 --> 00:41:18,940 To each episode in relation to the title of it 601 00:41:18,940 --> 00:41:21,940 Yeah, I think 602 00:41:21,940 --> 00:41:22,940 What was your... 603 00:41:22,940 --> 00:41:26,940 Is there one in particular you remember? 604 00:41:26,940 --> 00:41:29,940 There are a couple 605 00:41:29,940 --> 00:41:32,940 They were from the first and second season 606 00:41:32,940 --> 00:41:35,940 Because I'm in the third one right now 607 00:41:35,940 --> 00:41:41,940 You know how I'm involving the different techniques 608 00:41:41,940 --> 00:41:45,940 Or how to keep a relationship stable 609 00:41:45,940 --> 00:41:49,940 Or how to say hi 610 00:41:49,940 --> 00:41:51,940 That kind of thing 611 00:41:51,940 --> 00:41:54,940 Yeah 612 00:41:54,940 --> 00:41:56,940 What are some of your... 613 00:41:56,940 --> 00:42:00,940 Back to when you were talking about Chicago 614 00:42:00,940 --> 00:42:04,940 And food and everything 615 00:42:04,940 --> 00:42:08,940 What are some of your favorite foods? 616 00:42:08,940 --> 00:42:10,940 Sushi 617 00:42:10,940 --> 00:42:12,940 Yeah, I like sushi too 618 00:42:12,940 --> 00:42:15,940 That's my number one favorite 619 00:42:15,940 --> 00:42:18,940 What would you say is your number two? 620 00:42:18,940 --> 00:42:23,940 Definitely on the healthy side 621 00:42:23,940 --> 00:42:27,940 Salad 622 00:42:27,940 --> 00:42:30,940 Or sometimes when I go to Subway 623 00:42:30,940 --> 00:42:32,940 I get one of those there 624 00:42:32,940 --> 00:42:35,940 Or Jersey Mike's or any kind of sub place 625 00:42:35,940 --> 00:42:40,940 I have a good presentable sub 626 00:42:40,940 --> 00:42:43,940 For like a six inch or whatever 627 00:42:43,940 --> 00:42:46,940 But I would have to write balance of protein 628 00:42:46,940 --> 00:42:49,940 And salad and material together 629 00:42:49,940 --> 00:42:51,940 Yeah 630 00:42:51,940 --> 00:42:59,940 Is there a difference from Subway in Chicago to Seattle? 631 00:42:59,940 --> 00:43:02,940 Or would you say it's pretty similar? 632 00:43:02,940 --> 00:43:08,940 But for trying it out here in Seattle 633 00:43:08,940 --> 00:43:11,940 To pay that which location you go to 634 00:43:11,940 --> 00:43:14,940 They actually do it a little bit differently 635 00:43:14,940 --> 00:43:16,940 They even give the ingredients 636 00:43:16,940 --> 00:43:19,940 Taste a little bit fresher here 637 00:43:19,940 --> 00:43:24,940 Then they did post visiting back home 638 00:43:24,940 --> 00:43:26,940 While back 639 00:43:26,940 --> 00:43:29,940 What are some other favorite foods 640 00:43:29,940 --> 00:43:32,940 That you really liked in Chicago? 641 00:43:32,940 --> 00:43:34,940 Hot dogs 642 00:43:34,940 --> 00:43:37,940 Cold sausage 643 00:43:37,940 --> 00:43:40,940 Smoked sausage 644 00:43:40,940 --> 00:43:42,940 Sometimes brats 645 00:43:42,940 --> 00:43:45,940 Tambies, cheese bites 646 00:43:45,940 --> 00:43:48,940 Pizza, pasta 647 00:43:48,940 --> 00:43:52,940 Seafood 648 00:43:52,940 --> 00:43:56,940 Especially what I've remembered 649 00:43:56,940 --> 00:43:59,940 What I've been able to raise is 650 00:43:59,940 --> 00:44:01,940 Going out when it comes to seafood 651 00:44:01,940 --> 00:44:04,940 We would always go to Red Lobster 652 00:44:04,940 --> 00:44:06,940 Or a few crab places 653 00:44:06,940 --> 00:44:08,940 That were on the suburbs 654 00:44:08,940 --> 00:44:10,940 That were so often 655 00:44:10,940 --> 00:44:12,940 I miss going to Dulles 656 00:44:12,940 --> 00:44:14,940 Especially some of the good crab places 657 00:44:14,940 --> 00:44:16,940 Like Bob James' crab house 658 00:44:16,940 --> 00:44:17,940 That was fun 659 00:44:17,940 --> 00:44:18,940 Any good seafood 660 00:44:18,940 --> 00:44:21,940 I'm sure you've found any good seafood places 661 00:44:21,940 --> 00:44:23,940 In Seattle too 662 00:44:23,940 --> 00:44:27,940 And around here 663 00:44:27,940 --> 00:44:31,940 That are about as good 664 00:44:31,940 --> 00:44:36,940 And you do get a bit fresher here 665 00:44:36,940 --> 00:44:38,940 Because it's closer to the ocean 666 00:44:38,940 --> 00:44:39,940 For one 667 00:44:39,940 --> 00:44:41,940 But 668 00:44:41,940 --> 00:44:44,940 Atmyspherically 669 00:44:44,940 --> 00:44:47,940 It doesn't feel the same 670 00:44:47,940 --> 00:44:49,940 This is what I can remember 671 00:44:49,940 --> 00:44:50,940 From my experiences 672 00:44:50,940 --> 00:44:52,940 Back in Chicago 673 00:44:52,940 --> 00:44:53,940 Yeah 674 00:44:53,940 --> 00:44:56,940 Mm-hmm 675 00:44:56,940 --> 00:45:08,940 Any other cities that you've been to 676 00:45:08,940 --> 00:45:10,940 Outside of Chicago and Seattle 677 00:45:10,940 --> 00:45:12,940 That you really liked? 678 00:45:12,940 --> 00:45:13,940 San Francisco 679 00:45:13,940 --> 00:45:15,940 Cool, yeah, San Francisco 680 00:45:15,940 --> 00:45:19,940 Yeah, San Francisco, Richmond 681 00:45:19,940 --> 00:45:26,940 Los Angeles, San Diego 682 00:45:26,940 --> 00:45:32,940 Beverly Hills, Hollywood 683 00:45:32,940 --> 00:45:35,940 It's like a think of 684 00:45:35,940 --> 00:45:39,940 The lights gray season in California 685 00:45:39,940 --> 00:45:46,940 In Arizona, there's Phoenix, Tucson 686 00:45:46,940 --> 00:45:48,940 A few other small towns 687 00:45:48,940 --> 00:45:50,940 I've been to once 688 00:45:50,940 --> 00:45:52,940 That was a year ago 689 00:45:52,940 --> 00:45:54,940 That was fun 690 00:45:54,940 --> 00:45:56,940 Austin, Texas 691 00:45:56,940 --> 00:46:05,940 Once many, many years back 692 00:46:05,940 --> 00:46:08,940 Wisconsin 693 00:46:08,940 --> 00:46:11,940 Lake Geneva, Williamus Bay 694 00:46:11,940 --> 00:46:14,940 Green Bay, Milwaukee 695 00:46:14,940 --> 00:46:17,940 Madison a few times 696 00:46:17,940 --> 00:46:20,940 Michigan, there's Detroit 697 00:46:20,940 --> 00:46:26,940 Lansing, one of their small towns 698 00:46:26,940 --> 00:46:28,940 What do you call the names of? 699 00:46:28,940 --> 00:46:30,940 Indiana 700 00:46:30,940 --> 00:46:36,940 There's Gary in Indianapolis 701 00:46:36,940 --> 00:46:39,940 I've traveled to so many different states 702 00:46:39,940 --> 00:46:41,940 The only ones I've ever been to yet 703 00:46:41,940 --> 00:46:44,940 Was Florida 704 00:46:44,940 --> 00:46:48,940 Both of the Carolina states 705 00:46:48,940 --> 00:46:50,940 Maine 706 00:46:50,940 --> 00:46:56,940 Vermont, New Hampshire 707 00:46:56,940 --> 00:46:58,940 Is there a favorite out of all of those 708 00:46:58,940 --> 00:47:02,940 That you've been to? 709 00:47:02,940 --> 00:47:05,940 Well, if you want to go by favorites 710 00:47:05,940 --> 00:47:07,940 In the East Coast 711 00:47:07,940 --> 00:47:10,940 I've actually enjoyed Massachusetts 712 00:47:10,940 --> 00:47:13,940 The Boston, Cambridge area 713 00:47:13,940 --> 00:47:18,940 What were your favorite things about Massachusetts? 714 00:47:18,940 --> 00:47:20,940 Family 715 00:47:20,940 --> 00:47:23,940 Along the Cape 716 00:47:23,940 --> 00:47:26,940 Even the area over there is good too 717 00:47:26,940 --> 00:47:31,940 They've got really good sequel games 718 00:47:31,940 --> 00:47:34,940 Especially 719 00:47:34,940 --> 00:47:38,940 Genuine, authentic New England clam shout 720 00:47:38,940 --> 00:47:40,940 The white one, not the red one 721 00:47:40,940 --> 00:47:43,940 Yeah, the white one, I like the white one too 722 00:47:43,940 --> 00:47:48,940 I don't like the red one that much 723 00:47:48,940 --> 00:47:50,940 I've tried the red one a few times 724 00:47:50,940 --> 00:47:52,940 It was a bit too salty for me 725 00:47:52,940 --> 00:47:56,940 It's just like for me it was too soupy 726 00:47:56,940 --> 00:47:58,940 I remember it's just because I really like 727 00:47:58,940 --> 00:48:01,940 How the white one is creamy 728 00:48:01,940 --> 00:48:03,940 Supposed to be 729 00:48:03,940 --> 00:48:05,940 Yeah, so 730 00:48:05,940 --> 00:48:07,940 I remember ordering, it was actually one time 731 00:48:07,940 --> 00:48:10,940 That I ordered the chowder 732 00:48:10,940 --> 00:48:13,940 And I didn't know that it was the red one 733 00:48:13,940 --> 00:48:15,940 I thought I was like expecting the white one 734 00:48:15,940 --> 00:48:16,940 In my head 735 00:48:16,940 --> 00:48:19,940 So then it came and it was the red one 736 00:48:19,940 --> 00:48:23,940 It was not bad, but it was 737 00:48:23,940 --> 00:48:26,940 It was definitely an adjustment for me 738 00:48:26,940 --> 00:48:29,940 Because I had been expecting something from Maine 739 00:48:29,940 --> 00:48:31,940 Yeah 740 00:48:33,940 --> 00:48:36,940 That's another thing I should mention 741 00:48:36,940 --> 00:48:39,940 Not being on the spectrum 742 00:48:41,940 --> 00:48:45,940 How to accept change 743 00:48:45,940 --> 00:48:48,940 Yeah, that's a tough one, yeah 744 00:48:49,940 --> 00:48:51,940 But it depends on the type of change 745 00:48:51,940 --> 00:48:54,940 That's going on 746 00:48:54,940 --> 00:48:56,940 What is the kind of... 747 00:48:58,940 --> 00:49:01,940 The ones I'm still having trouble to this day 748 00:49:01,940 --> 00:49:05,940 Is life changes 749 00:49:05,940 --> 00:49:08,940 With people or with jobs 750 00:49:08,940 --> 00:49:11,940 What are you talking about? 751 00:49:11,940 --> 00:49:16,940 There are certain things in actual life 752 00:49:16,940 --> 00:49:19,940 I still do not accept change 753 00:49:20,940 --> 00:49:22,940 I just... 754 00:49:22,940 --> 00:49:25,940 Even though I'm hearing a lot of good things about it 755 00:49:25,940 --> 00:49:27,940 And trying to accept it 756 00:49:27,940 --> 00:49:29,940 No, yes 757 00:49:29,940 --> 00:49:31,940 Will not accept it 758 00:49:31,940 --> 00:49:34,940 Are there types of change that 759 00:49:34,940 --> 00:49:37,940 Have been easier for you than others? 760 00:49:37,940 --> 00:49:40,940 Back then they were 761 00:49:40,940 --> 00:49:42,940 The way before COVID they were 762 00:49:42,940 --> 00:49:44,940 But not at COVID 763 00:49:44,940 --> 00:49:47,940 They are gone 764 00:49:47,940 --> 00:49:49,940 This is... 765 00:49:49,940 --> 00:49:52,940 Such a big impact 766 00:49:52,940 --> 00:49:55,940 I still don't accept it 767 00:49:55,940 --> 00:49:59,940 What were some of the toughest things about 768 00:49:59,940 --> 00:50:03,940 COVID or during the height of the pandemic 769 00:50:03,940 --> 00:50:05,940 That you... 770 00:50:05,940 --> 00:50:07,940 Besides being unable to socialize with anyone 771 00:50:07,940 --> 00:50:09,940 Finding a stable job 772 00:50:11,940 --> 00:50:13,940 Had to rely on unemployment 773 00:50:13,940 --> 00:50:15,940 For that special moment there 774 00:50:15,940 --> 00:50:16,940 Which did help a lot 775 00:50:16,940 --> 00:50:18,940 But the downside about it 776 00:50:18,940 --> 00:50:20,940 We owe them so much money 777 00:50:20,940 --> 00:50:22,940 Back in return 778 00:50:22,940 --> 00:50:25,940 The next year which was kind of... 779 00:50:25,940 --> 00:50:27,940 Okay 780 00:50:29,940 --> 00:50:31,940 So... 781 00:50:31,940 --> 00:50:34,940 I mean it sort of made sense 782 00:50:34,940 --> 00:50:36,940 But... 783 00:50:36,940 --> 00:50:39,940 Yeah 784 00:50:39,940 --> 00:50:41,940 It was just not a good time 785 00:50:41,940 --> 00:50:45,940 And even nowadays 786 00:50:45,940 --> 00:50:49,940 It was still come back 787 00:50:49,940 --> 00:50:54,940 To a point where I still won't accept that change anymore 788 00:50:54,940 --> 00:50:56,940 It's just... 789 00:50:56,940 --> 00:50:58,940 They already made a big impact 790 00:50:58,940 --> 00:51:02,940 People are still not going back down things were 791 00:51:02,940 --> 00:51:08,940 So because they chose to accept this new change 792 00:51:08,940 --> 00:51:12,940 That's how we feel more divided than being together 793 00:51:12,940 --> 00:51:14,940 Yeah 794 00:51:16,940 --> 00:51:19,940 On the topic of people 795 00:51:19,940 --> 00:51:22,940 Do you... 796 00:51:22,940 --> 00:51:25,940 Have you struggled with getting really attached 797 00:51:25,940 --> 00:51:30,940 To certain people and having a hard time 798 00:51:32,940 --> 00:51:34,940 Like letting go of them 799 00:51:34,940 --> 00:51:35,940 If they... 800 00:51:35,940 --> 00:51:37,940 Like having a system... 801 00:51:37,940 --> 00:51:39,940 Quite frequent 802 00:51:39,940 --> 00:51:41,940 Even though I don't show it 803 00:51:41,940 --> 00:51:44,940 But it's coming from within 804 00:51:45,940 --> 00:51:49,940 Yeah I feel that really deep 805 00:51:49,940 --> 00:51:52,940 Attachment inside also 806 00:51:52,940 --> 00:51:55,940 I feel a deep attachment to somebody 807 00:51:55,940 --> 00:52:02,940 And it's really hard when you know that they don't feel 808 00:52:02,940 --> 00:52:04,940 The same way about you 809 00:52:04,940 --> 00:52:07,940 Like even not necessarily romantically 810 00:52:07,940 --> 00:52:10,940 But even just like in friendships and stuff 811 00:52:12,940 --> 00:52:15,940 Yeah like I struggle a lot with that 812 00:52:15,940 --> 00:52:18,940 And then also 813 00:52:18,940 --> 00:52:22,940 Perception, being really sensitive to things 814 00:52:22,940 --> 00:52:26,940 Like with a friend or whatever 815 00:52:26,940 --> 00:52:31,940 If I text them something and I don't hear back from them 816 00:52:31,940 --> 00:52:35,940 I'll start projecting like I think that they're upset at me 817 00:52:35,940 --> 00:52:37,940 But sometimes they're just really busy 818 00:52:37,940 --> 00:52:39,940 And they just haven't responded 819 00:52:39,940 --> 00:52:44,940 But I catch myself getting really anxious 820 00:52:44,940 --> 00:52:49,940 Yeah 821 00:52:49,940 --> 00:52:52,940 Yeah that's one thing that's... 822 00:52:52,940 --> 00:52:57,940 Like because we were talking earlier also about change 823 00:52:57,940 --> 00:53:02,940 And so I feel like another thing that was really hard for me 824 00:53:02,940 --> 00:53:05,940 Like one change that was hard was 825 00:53:05,940 --> 00:53:08,940 When I was... 826 00:53:08,940 --> 00:53:11,940 I did like an acting school for two years 827 00:53:11,940 --> 00:53:17,940 And I had these people that I got close to 828 00:53:17,940 --> 00:53:20,940 And we would like see each other every week 829 00:53:20,940 --> 00:53:22,940 Or like twice a week 830 00:53:22,940 --> 00:53:27,940 And then everyone kind of goes their own ways 831 00:53:27,940 --> 00:53:30,940 And then like we don't... 832 00:53:30,940 --> 00:53:36,940 Like some of them I don't really see or hear from anymore 833 00:53:36,940 --> 00:53:41,940 And so I remember that was just kind of... 834 00:53:41,940 --> 00:53:43,940 It was weird for me 835 00:53:43,940 --> 00:53:46,940 It took a while for me to adjust to that 836 00:53:46,940 --> 00:53:48,940 Like I... 837 00:53:48,940 --> 00:53:49,940 It felt really... 838 00:53:49,940 --> 00:53:53,940 And it's not even only about like 839 00:53:53,940 --> 00:53:56,940 My connections with people individually 840 00:53:56,940 --> 00:53:59,940 But it's just like the feeling of... 841 00:53:59,940 --> 00:54:01,940 It was a structure 842 00:54:01,940 --> 00:54:05,940 Like I had this structure that I knew that I was going to see them 843 00:54:05,940 --> 00:54:08,940 It's also like I get really used to structures 844 00:54:08,940 --> 00:54:11,940 When I have like a program, a class or something 845 00:54:11,940 --> 00:54:13,940 And it ends 846 00:54:13,940 --> 00:54:16,940 Because then it's like I end up... 847 00:54:16,940 --> 00:54:18,940 Like I have to restructure 848 00:54:18,940 --> 00:54:20,940 Like I just end up doing other things 849 00:54:20,940 --> 00:54:23,940 And moving on to other projects and such 850 00:54:23,940 --> 00:54:28,940 But it like that transition is tough for me 851 00:54:28,940 --> 00:54:36,940 Yep, I can relate 852 00:54:36,940 --> 00:54:41,940 I feel like I... 853 00:54:41,940 --> 00:54:45,940 I feel like I've... 854 00:54:45,940 --> 00:54:49,940 I don't know, like I... 855 00:54:49,940 --> 00:54:53,940 There's another thing that I had thought of 856 00:54:53,940 --> 00:54:58,940 I can't escape my head again 857 00:54:58,940 --> 00:55:02,940 Did you have any other... 858 00:55:02,940 --> 00:55:05,940 I wanted to open it up to you a little bit 859 00:55:05,940 --> 00:55:11,940 If you had any other topics you wanted to talk about 860 00:55:11,940 --> 00:55:15,940 Well, going back to video games 861 00:55:15,940 --> 00:55:22,940 Has been one of the unique individuals in the spectrum 862 00:55:22,940 --> 00:55:26,940 Actually, work in the industry for almost a decade 863 00:55:26,940 --> 00:55:29,940 Yeah, how's that? 864 00:55:29,940 --> 00:55:31,940 What's that been like for you? 865 00:55:31,940 --> 00:55:33,940 Yeah 866 00:55:35,940 --> 00:55:38,940 Let me put it this way 867 00:55:38,940 --> 00:55:43,940 After getting my feet in the door by not knowing anyone 868 00:55:43,940 --> 00:55:48,940 Was such a challenge 869 00:55:48,940 --> 00:55:50,940 I thought I was not going to get it 870 00:55:50,940 --> 00:55:53,940 I was not going to get in at all 871 00:55:53,940 --> 00:55:56,940 Just because of who I am 872 00:55:56,940 --> 00:55:59,940 And from the amount of knowledge that I had 873 00:55:59,940 --> 00:56:02,940 Prior to that 874 00:56:02,940 --> 00:56:05,940 Even with the college degree that I was aiming for 875 00:56:05,940 --> 00:56:07,940 At the time too 876 00:56:07,940 --> 00:56:11,940 But I had a good feeling back then 877 00:56:11,940 --> 00:56:14,940 Or a small good feeling that I was not going to get in at all 878 00:56:14,940 --> 00:56:16,940 That was just going to be a waste of time 879 00:56:16,940 --> 00:56:19,940 But I proved myself wrong 880 00:56:19,940 --> 00:56:22,940 And everyone else wrong 881 00:56:22,940 --> 00:56:29,940 And I got accepted like that 882 00:56:29,940 --> 00:56:31,940 Just for being myself 883 00:56:31,940 --> 00:56:33,940 I had to get my feet in the door 884 00:56:33,940 --> 00:56:38,940 And as I started to learn more about how it's done in the industry 885 00:56:38,940 --> 00:56:40,940 Working there 886 00:56:40,940 --> 00:56:43,940 Being trained to do what needs to be done at the time 887 00:56:43,940 --> 00:56:46,940 I made such a great first impression 888 00:56:46,940 --> 00:56:48,940 Not just towards me 889 00:56:48,940 --> 00:56:50,940 But towards anyone who I worked with 890 00:56:50,940 --> 00:56:52,940 Even with the executive staff 891 00:56:52,940 --> 00:56:55,940 Superb if anyone 892 00:56:55,940 --> 00:56:58,940 They've been living up to me 893 00:56:58,940 --> 00:57:01,940 For certain things 894 00:57:01,940 --> 00:57:04,940 Even though I was one of the low-end people 895 00:57:04,940 --> 00:57:06,940 Just for doing content work 896 00:57:06,940 --> 00:57:09,940 During my time spent there 897 00:57:09,940 --> 00:57:13,940 And that moment on I just got let go 898 00:57:13,940 --> 00:57:17,940 Or laid off during the midst of COVID 899 00:57:17,940 --> 00:57:19,940 And I was 21 900 00:57:19,940 --> 00:57:23,940 I've been such an awesome legend there 901 00:57:23,940 --> 00:57:26,940 They've been bringing me back to visitations 902 00:57:26,940 --> 00:57:29,940 Just to see how am I doing 903 00:57:29,940 --> 00:57:30,940 See how they're doing 904 00:57:30,940 --> 00:57:32,940 So on and so forth 905 00:57:32,940 --> 00:57:34,940 And ever since then 906 00:57:34,940 --> 00:57:37,940 My name has been more reachable 907 00:57:37,940 --> 00:57:39,940 Back in my hometown 908 00:57:39,940 --> 00:57:41,940 People still ask about me 909 00:57:41,940 --> 00:57:42,940 Talk about me 910 00:57:42,940 --> 00:57:45,940 Just because of working in the industry 911 00:57:45,940 --> 00:57:47,940 Yeah, that must feel good 912 00:57:47,940 --> 00:57:48,940 It feels great 913 00:57:48,940 --> 00:57:50,940 It feels awesome 914 00:57:50,940 --> 00:57:52,940 But we're very humble about it 915 00:57:52,940 --> 00:57:55,940 It was one of the best life-long experiences 916 00:57:55,940 --> 00:57:58,940 That I've been through in my own entire lifetime 917 00:57:58,940 --> 00:58:01,940 That I've been a mentor to others 918 00:58:01,940 --> 00:58:03,940 Who are trying to do the exact same thing 919 00:58:03,940 --> 00:58:06,940 Which is how we're difficult to get in 920 00:58:06,940 --> 00:58:08,940 Do what I did 921 00:58:08,940 --> 00:58:10,940 Get your feet in the door 922 00:58:10,940 --> 00:58:12,940 By not knowing anyone at all 923 00:58:12,940 --> 00:58:15,940 Just be yourself the entire time 924 00:58:15,940 --> 00:58:18,940 Just show them and prove them wrong 925 00:58:18,940 --> 00:58:20,940 Yeah, definitely 926 00:58:20,940 --> 00:58:21,940 So you gotta go from there? 927 00:58:21,940 --> 00:58:22,940 Yeah 928 00:58:22,940 --> 00:58:24,940 Well, that's amazing 929 00:58:24,940 --> 00:58:25,940 That's really good 930 00:58:25,940 --> 00:58:28,940 Yeah, I think definitely 931 00:58:28,940 --> 00:58:32,940 When we get to a point 932 00:58:32,940 --> 00:58:34,940 Where we're somewhere 933 00:58:34,940 --> 00:58:36,940 We can just be ourselves 934 00:58:36,940 --> 00:58:40,940 And then embrace that 935 00:58:40,940 --> 00:58:42,940 And be accepted for it 936 00:58:42,940 --> 00:58:46,940 Or like, not always accepted for it everywhere 937 00:58:46,940 --> 00:58:50,940 But at least in certain places 938 00:58:50,940 --> 00:58:52,940 That's always good 939 00:58:52,940 --> 00:58:54,940 Like when you have that 940 00:58:54,940 --> 00:58:56,940 Wherever it is 941 00:58:56,940 --> 00:58:59,940 When you have that group 942 00:58:59,940 --> 00:59:00,940 Where you're somewhere 943 00:59:00,940 --> 00:59:01,940 Where you have that group 944 00:59:01,940 --> 00:59:02,940 That accepts you 945 00:59:02,940 --> 00:59:05,940 That's good, yeah 946 00:59:05,940 --> 00:59:09,940 Well, unfortunately, I couldn't remember 947 00:59:09,940 --> 00:59:12,940 That other question I wanted to ask you 948 00:59:12,940 --> 00:59:15,940 And I guess I can always message you 949 00:59:15,940 --> 00:59:16,940 If I remember it 950 00:59:16,940 --> 00:59:19,940 But that's pretty much all that I had 951 00:59:19,940 --> 00:59:22,940 In terms of questions for today 952 00:59:22,940 --> 00:59:25,940 But I wanted to thank you again 953 00:59:25,940 --> 00:59:27,940 For coming on the podcast 954 00:59:27,940 --> 00:59:29,940 This was a really... 955 00:59:29,940 --> 00:59:32,940 Unless you wanted to add something 956 00:59:32,940 --> 00:59:36,940 It's been my honor of joining in 957 00:59:36,940 --> 00:59:38,940 As I've always enjoyed being a guest 958 00:59:38,940 --> 00:59:41,940 For anyone's show 959 00:59:41,940 --> 00:59:42,940 Yeah, thanks, yeah 960 00:59:42,940 --> 00:59:44,940 I really enjoyed having you on 961 00:59:44,940 --> 00:59:46,940 And I will... 962 00:59:46,940 --> 00:59:49,940 I will let you know when this episode is out 963 00:59:49,940 --> 00:59:52,940 And thank you everyone for listening 964 00:59:52,940 --> 00:59:56,940 I hope you enjoyed this conversation as well 965 00:59:56,940 --> 01:00:09,940 And I'll see you guys next time