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Hello, our throbbing members.

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Welcome to romance or TBR.

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I just really hope that nobody put that on with like, they connected it to their car

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or something.

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They call car speakers and like their kids are in the car and it's just you being like,

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hello throbbing members.

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I feel like that would happen to me, honestly.

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Yeah, drive through.

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That's always a tricky, tricky culprit.

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Yeah.

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Also like, my dad listens to audiobooks so loud, you can like clearly like hear them

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through the car.

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So I feel like most people can like hear what I'm listening to.

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I just like feel that when I'm listening to Taylor Swift or something.

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So just do not connect automatically.

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I drive a car that used to be my dad's car and I remember every time he would go like

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pick me up anywhere, I could always hear clearly whatever he was listening to and it doesn't

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even have to be that loud for that to be the case.

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So I just, I always have to pause my music when I go into like a drive through situation.

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Yeah, because I like blast Taylor, but no, my dad was listening to the Prince Harry book

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like when it came out and I was with him in the car and it was of course the like Toddger

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frostbite part and we were driving up to like Sam's club and he just, because we're doing

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an order pickup and he just has a blasting.

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I'm like the poor pickup person nor do I need to hear about Prince Harry's frozen Toddger

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and his weird hand cream that he put on it.

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It's like, this is so forever scarred and I hope no one scarred from being a throbbing

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member because that's what you are now.

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So no choice in the matter.

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We're like the top podcast for it was like 30 some people.

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So those, those are the really, those are 32 throbbing members.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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You have to work your way up to get the throbbing.

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It's true.

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There are different levels.

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Turgid.

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Yeah.

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Like if we're in your top five, but we weren't your number one, you're a turgid number.

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Steely members.

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We have to, someone has to be like a, I think I said earthy.

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I was like, what?

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Oh, that makes more sense.

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Like at some point someone has to like work their way up to like a velvet covered steel

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member.

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You have to like give us money for that.

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Give us money.

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Not even like subscribe to a Patreon.

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Like no, just give us money.

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Donate to the cause.

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That's so ominous.

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Track down our Venmos if you want to be velvet wrapped steel members.

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That is horrible.

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Why wouldn't you?

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That is a true shit.

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With your kind, generous donation.

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Anything we should be paying them for making them listen to this.

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With your kind, generous donation, we could get buttons and t-shirts and coffee mugs and

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pencils and everything else that you'd want that phrase on.

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No one needs anything from us on a mug.

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I'm going to pass out throbbing member bracelets at StimulantCon.

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As you should.

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I'll make them too.

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It'll be a whole thing.

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Yeah.

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It's just so perfect.

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It really made me giggle.

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So that's what's on my brain.

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Things no one wants their throbbing member to make you do is giggle.

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So true.

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Giggly goose.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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It is December.

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Yeah, apparently that's what the calendars tell me.

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This was a calendar.

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So I've got an advent calendar hanging up behind me and it claims to be December.

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And that means we are coming to the end of our second season.

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That's crazy.

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That is crazy.

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And with the end of our second season comes the end of old school school.

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At least for now.

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Yeah, we may have to like go up a grade.

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Level up.

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We're in middle school.

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We're in old school elementary school right now.

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Yes, so we've come to the final old school school episode of season two, which is wild.

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So many books that we have read.

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We've read so many books this year.

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And yet I've only read two books in December.

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I mean, me too.

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One I started before December.

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I think also me too.

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I just have no motivation.

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My entire TBR is like novellas and I still can't like get myself to do that.

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I'm really struggling.

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I'm not in the mood for holiday things.

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I am working on a book for work that I'm really enjoying, but it's not romance.

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It's historical fiction.

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Curveball.

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I know.

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Well, that's, I mean, other than this one, I read a nonfiction book.

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That was my first book of December and then I'm working on the historical fiction.

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So I'm like, what's going on?

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Who is she?

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She's tired from the 37 books she read in October.

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And she has yet to recover.

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And she's working full time, which is like a normal person thing to do, but I didn't

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do it for a long time.

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And she's moving.

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So and that's the most.

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It is the most.

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So she's really into the gym right now.

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That's a plot twist that is maybe more of a plot twist than the nonfiction.

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Do you want to hear a real plot twist?

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I do.

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I listened to a Rosalind Landor narrated audiobook that I didn't hate.

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And I think that's because she did a Scottish accent.

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And I wonder when I started.

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I was like, oh, Rosalind Landor, that means Hannah's not going to listen to it.

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But I simply was not going to sit my butt down and read a book.

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So I had to listen.

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And because I bought during the Audible sale, which was like it was probably like 85 percent

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off.

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So it was like three dollars.

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And they had a bunch of like Joanna Lindsay and Julie Garwood that I couldn't get the

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library.

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So I was like, OK, I'll just buy all these.

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And then I realized when they were in my car that some of them were Rosalind Landor.

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So I took those out.

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And as I was reading them out, the bride was left.

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I was like, oh, shit.

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And so I listened to the sample and I was like, because I don't mind.

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Like I like how she narrates everything else besides the heroes.

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Like I just can't do it.

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But I was like, if he's Scottish, he at least won't sound like a moldy English ghost.

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And there were some parts that I was like, I hear you, Rosalind.

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But for the most part, it was good.

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And I was like, thank the Lord.

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I'm really happy for you.

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Thank you.

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That brings me joy that filled me fills me with brightness and gratitude.

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It fills your stocking of Formula One driver.

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So I'm happy.

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Thank you.

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I was pleasantly surprised.

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That's good.

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This was this was a good one.

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This was my my own.

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I had one issue.

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OK, well, first, OK, what?

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We are romance or TBR and we are reading The Bride by Julie Garwood.

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We can do it.

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Maybe for season three, we'll have like an intro that says our name and who we are and

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all that, because we're so bad at it.

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Just feels like not committing to the bit if we do that.

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True.

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Who are we if we're actually introducing ourselves at the top?

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Very bad.

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Half the joy is trying to banter our way into things and not doing it half the time.

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But we say we successfully banter through that wall today.

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Look at that segue we had.

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I don't know that we did.

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It was perfect.

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Plot twists, twisted around and found the right direction.

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OK, if you say so.

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With less confidence as the seconds pass.

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That's OK.

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But it's fine.

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Yes, we sure are.

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We read The Bride by Julie Garwood, a classic, a book that I read first in 2020.

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Go look at my review.

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I haven't changed it.

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Fascinating to see that I gave it 4.25 peppers out of five peppers.

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It had come at the time that I had...

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So Diana Quincy was one of the first authors that I think like followed me back on Bookstagram

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and I had like found her because Her Night with the Duke was coming out at the time I

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think that I joined.

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So then she followed me back.

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I was like, that's amazing.

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She's like a god.

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And then she had like an interview with Paul Maron, the romance novel model.

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And so I watched that.

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And then she had like in that interview, I think, she talked about like her favorite

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like classic romances that got her into the genre.

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And one was The Pearl by Mary Balog and then The Bride by Julie Garwood.

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I read both of them.

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I bought both of them.

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And I read The Pearl first.

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And that one was like a three star.

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And then I read The Bride after that.

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And you can see my review.

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I'm like, I like this one better and her writing and stuff.

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So yeah, this was probably my first like old, old, except for maybe a Bettina Cron that

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I read where he was like a very angry, hungry man.

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And she was like the best cook in the land.

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And it was very odd, but it was not very steamy at all.

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And I was very confused, but slightly turned on because she was making good food.

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So it was the whole thing.

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But this was like, this was a good intro.

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And I think it is a good intro just for a lot of people if you're like trying to get

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into it.

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But I think my ratings say the same.

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I think it's a good Scottish one.

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It's a good, if you're not sure, you want to do the Highland thing.

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It felt a lot like Lord of Scoundrels to me, whereas Lord of Scoundrels to me felt better.

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But it was kind of all like the heroine kind of, I don't know, like knowing that the hero

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was good, no one else.

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She was like, he is so funny.

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And everyone's like, what do you mean?

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He's never cracked a joke in his life.

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And she's like, he's hilarious and all of that.

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I can see those.

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I can see those similarities.

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I can see what you're putting down.

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Yeah, thank you.

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Thank you.

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But then reading Lord of Scoundrels, she's miming, picking up and putting down.

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I'm picking things up and I'm putting them down.

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She's like a claw game.

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I did a mime performance when you're in Girl Scouts, okay?

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And I was the star of the little mime skit.

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So I'm so sorry to all who are listening and not watching because what a performance you

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missed.

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There's a pro-mime and you have no idea.

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How devastating for you listeners.

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Yeah, honestly, I feel like you really missed out on something huge.

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You did.

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I hope you feel that loss.

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In your throbbing member.

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Okay, what were you going to say about liking it except for one thing?

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The one thing I did not like.

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Spoilers ahead.

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You got that one thing.

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Nice.

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Thanks.

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I did not love the Annie.

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Yeah, I forgot.

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And then I was like halfway through.

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I was like very early on as soon as we got those two women, I was like, oh, because Rosalind

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or was doing a female voice and like, obviously you figured out fairly early on it was a woman.

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Yeah, from the things that she was saying.

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And then there's only really two other women and Edith would be too easy of an answer.

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And I was like, oh, no, not not the mentally disabled one is the vicious murderer.

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It was very confusing.

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I will say I was not.

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I did not pick up what Julie Guy would was putting down the first read because my review

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is like, that was the I had no clue.

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And honestly, I forgot.

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And it wasn't like 50% through.

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I was like, she wouldn't do that was she?

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You would say she would.

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How is she going to get that?

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Like, how is that going to happen?

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And then it did.

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I was like, it didn't like it just wasn't didn't love that.

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No.

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It didn't feel super necessary, except I guess kind of like he did have his outpouring of

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emotions when she was in danger.

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And I respect that.

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I just think like you could have still had like the sister do it if she was just like

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not mentally disabled.

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And that was like the crux of her evilness.

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Yeah.

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Like if she was like, yes, her mind is twisted.

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And I was like, yeah, because like you got the like one part where she thought she was

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like an innocent child.

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So like, but then not in like the like insane way.

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So it was kind of a weird twist.

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Not to it.

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Like it was weird how like you get told the one thing and then you just have to.

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I mean, I think I understood what she meant when she said she.

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Yeah.

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But it's always interesting to me how people write from the perspective of a historical

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character encountering a disabled person.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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What's the one that we read that did that?

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The brother.

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I thought that was the title.

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I was like, I've never heard of the brother.

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The brother is the oh, bewitching.

283
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Yes.

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Yes.

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That I thought she did a really good job of not being insulting or in fancy.

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And Any Duchess will do by Tessa Dare.

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Her sister.

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Oh, I heard that one.

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That's why.

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Yeah, it's it's really good.

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Her sister.

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Which one?

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It's the one I always talk about with the crazy desk scene.

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But her sister is mentally impaired.

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So then her whole thing is like getting money to then take the sister away from the parents.

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I mean, I think it's an interesting like when it's done well, I think it can be done really

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well.

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It's just always interesting to see like obviously they didn't have the same language or understanding

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of mental disabilities that we do.

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So how are you going to do this from a historical perspective, but not be insulting or infantilizing

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in a way that let's be honest, they probably actually were.

302
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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Because I think there was.

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And so I got what she she described her as being like, one of those.

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She probably said like unfortunate souls or something.

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She definitely said unfortunate.

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Like remained childlike forever.

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And I was like, okay, that's a that's what I was going with at the beginning.

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So I didn't think it meant innocent.

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I mean, like I understood where what that meant in that context.

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I'm like, but then it the dots connected and I was like, oh, man, what do you mean?

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She's the twisted man.

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And I do think it was meant to be like, wasn't she abused essentially when she was young?

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Wasn't that whole family like the reason he married Helena was because the father was

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bad and he had to get her out of it.

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Right.

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And it was supposed to be like she came out of a bad because when they get Mary, Mary

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Elizabeth, what's the daughter's Catherine, Mary Catherine, when she goes and gets her

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and it becomes apparent that like she she says, oh, she must not have been abused for

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very long.

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She must not have been in that situation very long and she must have been treated well before

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because she's so she's so good and so like tender hearted.

324
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And Alec is like side eye.

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Actually, I assumed that was because he was like, you were abused your entire life and

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you turned out wonderful.

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So I don't know what you're talking about.

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Like, oh, she must have been fine.

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But as soon as they said and she was like, oh, well, you know, when you're treated badly,

330
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it like twists the mind.

331
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And I was like, oh, no, no, Julie Garwood, you're so sexy.

332
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Don't do that.

333
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Aha.

334
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Like, I love that.

335
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Yeah.

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Don't make your mentally disabled character the like twisted insane murderer.

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You're so sexy.

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You got those sexy little whimpers.

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Every sex scene, every single one.

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Why why was she always doing sexy little whimpers in the back of her throat?

341
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And why was that always the phrase?

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It just really stuck out to me every time because like sexy is a weird word in a lot

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of.

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I know.

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I know.

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I markedly called her baby and he said sexy.

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And I, for one, love those because I mean, they must have.

348
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I'm assuming they were back like spoken back then.

349
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I didn't mind it.

350
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It just felt jarring in the context.

351
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So it is really fun.

352
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One book I read.

353
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Oh, it's the one by Christy Caldwell.

354
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Always know something with a.

355
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It's the first one that I always talk about.

356
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He just calls her sexy, like sexy about her.

357
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Like her butt is sexy or something.

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And it cracks me up every time because it's this like sexy male narrator.

359
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And he's just like so angry about it.

360
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And she's like stomping into his life, like fucking shit up.

361
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And she's so happy.

362
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And he's just like her sexy little butt.

363
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I'm like, or perhaps his arse or something.

364
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So I do love when when that appears.

365
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And then the baby, Rosalind Lander said it so fast, I was really already listening to

366
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it fast.

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I didn't catch it.

368
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And then she remarked on it.

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I was like, called her baby.

370
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So then I had to rewind.

371
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And that's my first note.

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He called her baby.

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So I needed to talk about it.

374
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So good job.

375
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I mean, my first note, I feel like encapsulated a huge part of their entire vibe.

376
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And I love their relationship dynamic, like that that relationship dynamic.

377
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I think this one, he was a little too alpha for me.

378
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Just like as a personal preference.

379
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I don't.

380
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I mean, I think it was done well, and I think by the end of the book, he had gone through

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the development that we needed.

382
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I think there was a little bit like I know the heroine said she was falling in love with

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him like pretty early on.

384
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And I'm like confusing this with the novella that I'm reading right now.

385
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But I do think there was a little bit more that I needed.

386
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Like to me, this wasn't a five star read.

387
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I think maybe like I would have read this back when it was published, I think because

388
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I hadn't experienced maybe.

389
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Let's just say I hadn't a book like this.

390
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But at this point, we've read a lot like Lord of Scoundrels, where they just go through

391
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so much development in that same dynamic of their relationship.

392
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And like they really exemplify like the grumpy sunshine, like alpha-ness.

393
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So this one just felt a little bit watered down, but it was still compelling.

394
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Yes, I agree.

395
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And the writing was good.

396
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I think it got where I needed it to get.

397
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I would have liked to see him brought to his knees a little bit more explicitly, but I

398
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also do understand that he's not the kind of character that would do that.

399
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I mean, that's why I like to see it happen, because I'm like, Teeheehee, no one else can

400
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do this.

401
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But I do understand.

402
00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:42,600
I feel like she knew him well enough to know that she wouldn't want to have him like prostrate

403
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himself in front of his men that way.

404
00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:45,760
You know what I mean?

405
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:50,760
Like she wouldn't want him to have to do that in front of his clan.

406
00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,560
And so I do want to do that, but I love a grovel.

407
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I love when she was like locked in that house.

408
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She was like, where is Alec?

409
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He's coming.

410
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Where is he?

411
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I do love that.

412
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We're all the same.

413
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,120
When she goes into the lake and he's like, all right, I'm going to make my way over there

414
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because I know full well that water is icy cold and she's going to need help getting

415
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out of it.

416
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:16,000
And sure enough, she gets a cramp and is like, Alec, and he's already there.

417
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,560
Yeah, like the humor was there and that was really fun.

418
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The humor was there.

419
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It was fun.

420
00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:26,480
And it was definitely like a different dynamic, but it still had like him definitely like coercing

421
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her at the beginning on their wedding night.

422
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,640
There was a moment that his like, I didn't write it down, but it is locked in my brain

423
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,280
and it's I love head hopping.

424
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I love omniscient POV.

425
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,040
I was going to say she did that well in here.

426
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,760
They're at the exact same time.

427
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They're like riding on their horse and she is thinking to herself, like, she's like,

428
00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:54,960
yeah, I think I'll let him kiss me tonight and then I'm going to get to know him and

429
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maybe in a few weeks, then I'll let him take me.

430
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And at the exact same time, he is like, so I'm going to take her tonight.

431
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:05,800
Why wouldn't I?

432
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:06,800
Why wouldn't she let me?

433
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And that's why I couldn't dislike him.

434
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I just could not because it was so funny because it was so funny that that you were he was

435
00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:17,200
just like, yeah, I mean, that's what's going to happen.

436
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:18,440
And like, why wouldn't she be OK?

437
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Or when she thought he was going to let her stay there.

438
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She was like, of course, this is why you I can't believe I didn't get that together earlier.

439
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,680
He's like, no.

440
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:31,680
Yeah.

441
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:37,760
So it's like it did it in a way where like I just could not physically be mad at the

442
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,360
shit that was going down.

443
00:21:39,360 --> 00:21:42,960
I mean, I was mad, but I was willing to get you know what I mean?

444
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Like, all right.

445
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I mean, I had since I had already read it before, like I knew it was coming.

446
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,560
And so like, yeah.

447
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:56,600
And so I was and we've read enough because that that's I don't think I had read really.

448
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I mean, the scene in The Pearl maybe prepared me a little bit because like she's it was

449
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,420
like her first night as a prostitute because she didn't have any money.

450
00:22:05,420 --> 00:22:08,960
And then she picks up this guy who is the hero and I believe a duke.

451
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And then they just have sex in a very like sterile, like unsexy way because she has no

452
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,040
idea what to do and she doesn't really want to be a prostitute.

453
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:21,640
And he's just this was like his first prostitute since his wife died or something.

454
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It's convoluted.

455
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,520
And then he like realizes she was a virgin, hires her as his nanny.

456
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And it's a whole thing.

457
00:22:27,820 --> 00:22:30,040
Not much development on his side, I don't think.

458
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But we are who we are.

459
00:22:33,340 --> 00:22:36,160
But for this one, I knew this time that it was coming.

460
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,120
So I was like, it's not my favorite.

461
00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:40,360
And I especially didn't like that.

462
00:22:40,360 --> 00:22:47,360
He never kind of got the memo that like she didn't like because he's just kept saying

463
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you want it or like you wanted it.

464
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,760
I mean, I felt like she that didn't bother me.

465
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I felt like she was very obviously like out of pride being like, no, I think by the point

466
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that they actually there was penetration.

467
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,160
Yeah, she was down for it.

468
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:12,880
So like, it was it was just funny how he went like, he has to wear my plaid and then she's

469
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,240
yeah cold and then he had his plaid on.

470
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:16,240
He's like, yeah, sneaky.

471
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:21,240
Come lay down on me.

472
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,840
I think as far as like old school kind of.

473
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,840
Yeah, as far as on con.

474
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:26,840
Yeah.

475
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,480
Well, but even like, I think I think this could pass in.

476
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,160
I think it might get some heat.

477
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:36,440
But I think if this was published now, I would probably let it slide just because I think

478
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the only times he really forces her are like kissing her.

479
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:44,600
And beyond that, she's very clearly and it's again because we're in her head as you say,

480
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:49,240
not applied to real life situations, which I feel like if you're listening to this podcast,

481
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:50,240
you already know.

482
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,560
But just in case, please don't take this out of context and think that I'm like, yeah,

483
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,480
but she wanted it applied vibes.

484
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:57,480
No.

485
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,480
But I think it's a good look where you are getting her perspective and you know that

486
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,280
she is internally very conflicted.

487
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:08,960
I think the idea is just that she genuinely does not know or like have the ability to

488
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,000
be comfortable with sexuality.

489
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,040
Like where would she have gotten that information?

490
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,800
And so from the from the horse guy.

491
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:22,520
Yeah, like she needed him to be like, no, you do not want me like I can tell you are

492
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,080
you have this passionate nature.

493
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:28,240
I can tell and you're in her head, so you know that she's conflicted, but she is like,

494
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,200
oh, this is good, but I shouldn't want it.

495
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,440
But I do like and that I'm much more comfortable with because it was I shouldn't.

496
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:41,400
But I do rather than like, oh, my God, I genuinely like Mary, Mary, I don't think I wanted to

497
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,400
read a sex scene.

498
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I'm so poor woman.

499
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:50,200
I don't know what was going on there because I'm like, was that a book somewhere?

500
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,200
Is that a novella somewhere?

501
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:52,400
Because I don't want to read it.

502
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:57,280
I don't think so, like I just don't like there was I'm so confused because if you don't

503
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,240
know, if you haven't read the book, her sister also.

504
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:08,360
So these two dudes, Scottish dudes, whatever dudes are called in Scotland, lairds, lairds.

505
00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:15,120
These two lairds show up because the prince or king or whoever king I believe, decreed

506
00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:20,000
that they were supposed to marry two of this guy's daughters.

507
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:24,440
And the father was like hiding the heroine away because he wanted her to like sing about

508
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:25,440
it.

509
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,560
He wasn't really he was badly hiding her away.

510
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:28,560
He did not.

511
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,600
He only showed up early.

512
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,480
And he was like, hey, come deal with this.

513
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,600
So it's not like he even tried to hide her.

514
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,400
He was just like, oh, no, it started.

515
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:46,560
So because then he was like sobbing when she so the guys come.

516
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:52,600
There's this like stable hand guy who has taken it upon himself to be basically the

517
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,040
surrogate parent for the heroine.

518
00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,160
And so he's like, well, I don't want her to stay in this house because all she is is like

519
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,880
a Cinderella character who just does all their like chores and stuff because she was like

520
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,680
this like a stepdaughter.

521
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,440
She wasn't his child.

522
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,960
And so you kind of learn throughout that she was never like treated fairly, but she kind

523
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:16,280
of thinks it whatever.

524
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:22,960
And so this guy is trying to matchmake and like put her in the path of like the two men

525
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:23,960
who are coming.

526
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:24,960
And it was just very funny.

527
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:29,040
And so then her and her sister, Mary, get chosen.

528
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:37,860
And then Daniel is like the nice, like amiable one who marries Mary.

529
00:26:37,860 --> 00:26:42,000
And you think like she's super lucky or like at least they thought that she was super lucky

530
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,400
because she gets this guy who's like nice and talk talkative.

531
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:55,360
And then there's obviously Alec who's grumpy and then, you know, so on and so forth.

532
00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:58,840
And then you find out that Daniel has a mistress.

533
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:03,320
He was immediately upon getting home.

534
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,120
Like the mistress was there kissing him in front of Mary.

535
00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:08,400
Mary's like, what?

536
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,480
And then she's angry because he doesn't bed her.

537
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,680
And I got that queen.

538
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:17,720
Yeah, because he was just like, you don't seem comfortable, so I want to give you time.

539
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,680
And he also did not really want to be married.

540
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:25,800
And so I can only be so mad at him because that man did not want to be married.

541
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:26,800
Yeah.

542
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,000
Like, and he was very upfront about it.

543
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:35,560
And also in his defense, she did grab her younger sister and put her in front of her

544
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,800
when armed men were running at them.

545
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,720
And he was pissed about that.

546
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,600
And like, honestly, so was I, because you have the audacity.

547
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,880
I don't care if she's older or younger.

548
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,160
Why are you using your sister as a human shield?

549
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,160
Yeah.

550
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:57,480
So like, I just think it was a very funny storyline for Mary because like in the romance

551
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:04,760
novel brain, you kind of want like a like a like a secondary romance to happen.

552
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,480
But then you start hearing out that like he still has the mistress.

553
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:09,480
Mary's not happy.

554
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,020
And it's a whole thing.

555
00:28:11,020 --> 00:28:14,360
And then at the end, you don't.

556
00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:15,920
Mary's like, I'll just let him keep the mistress.

557
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:16,920
I don't really care.

558
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,800
Like, as long as he likes me.

559
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,640
I think I mean, I have to assume that she did.

560
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,360
She's very much the pose.

561
00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:24,360
Yeah.

562
00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:29,360
And Daniel and like the route that why am I blinking on the main character?

563
00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:37,080
Jamie's wife could have taken Jamie because she has a man's name.

564
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:41,760
Like I have to assume it's to be like, yeah, Daniel was on the surface, the nicer looking

565
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,760
one and a little bit of karma.

566
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:44,760
Yeah.

567
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:45,760
Yeah.

568
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:52,240
But looking at Mary's life turned out, whereas Alec is the diamond in the rough.

569
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:57,720
I thought it was fun, like to just see that layout because it just like felt like there

570
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,560
was so much more in like a romance brain way to like have that be a book.

571
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,160
But yeah, just she was just there.

572
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,160
What a gal.

573
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:11,000
I would like to go back to my first note because I never actually said what it was, but I think

574
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,640
it exemplifies the other reason that their relationship works for me.

575
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,440
Number one is that he does develop enough by the end of the book for me to be like,

576
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,280
all right, you were a dick in the beginning, but I'll let it slide.

577
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,080
The second is the quote.

578
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,660
He thought he was being most considerate.

579
00:29:27,660 --> 00:29:29,640
She thought he was demented.

580
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,360
And I think that that sums up so well.

581
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:38,360
Like half of the time, I mean, he is intentionally a dick a lot of the time, but also a lot of

582
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:45,840
the time it's him genuinely trying to do something nice or like earnestly be like, I'm protecting

583
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:46,840
my wife.

584
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:47,960
Like I don't understand.

585
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,600
And she is so livid.

586
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:57,680
And I love that dynamic of him being like, I do not understand why you were upset.

587
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,200
And she is like, you have the audacity.

588
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:07,520
I think that the time when she found out that because he had a wife and he was like, the

589
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,280
rumors are that he murdered her.

590
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,720
But then you get terrible and cruel.

591
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,800
But most of them are not true.

592
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,120
Unless the rumors about King Edgar.

593
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,880
That's so which case they are true.

594
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,480
But he's nice guys.

595
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:22,480
It's fine.

596
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:28,040
You knew at the beginning that he didn't murder her because you had the POV of what

597
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:34,360
we later find out is Annie confessing that she like killed now, I think like two people

598
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:41,520
like one or two like she admitted to some stuff that would have been enough to get her

599
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:42,520
in jail.

600
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:51,000
And so I think in news.

601
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,000
So that happens.

602
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:58,640
So you knew that he wasn't guilty, but you didn't know that his wife had had a daughter.

603
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,680
That's why he ended up marrying her.

604
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:03,680
Things happened in her life.

605
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:04,680
It was sad.

606
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,720
And then because he was supposed to originally marry Annie.

607
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:14,680
We didn't know that he ended up marrying the other sister because he was being a good guy.

608
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:20,400
And so when Jamie finds out that he has a daughter, and she just like storms off, and

609
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,280
he's like right before that, she was like, he's so kind and so loving.

610
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,440
And then she finds out and she's like, he's the worst.

611
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:27,440
And that was very funny.

612
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:33,080
I will say that I wanted more from the child character because that's where I was like

613
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:37,320
in my Lord of scoundrels mind because she was a little bit of a plot mob.

614
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,240
She didn't say anything.

615
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,880
You had you were told what she said and what she did, but she never actually like well,

616
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,160
to be fair, she didn't know.

617
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,760
But she ended up like a lot of it.

618
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:52,160
I just because at the point where she was talking and like she was like telling what

619
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,520
happened, like you didn't even get like her recounting of like telling him that Jamie

620
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:57,520
was like going off.

621
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,240
I actually thought that was kind of funny because it was like she recited word for word.

622
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:05,680
So I feel like we didn't need to hear it because she recited it word for word, which is kind

623
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:06,680
of a slay.

624
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:11,440
I just wanted more from her character because I just thought that that could have been an

625
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,240
opportunity for more.

626
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,880
But I did enjoy that there was a child added.

627
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:16,880
That's always fun.

628
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,880
And then how immediately he was like so like when she came in, she was like, I wet the

629
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,240
bed.

630
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:23,600
And then he was like, I don't care.

631
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:24,920
And then like went and dealt with it.

632
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,240
And Jamie was like, awake but pretending to be asleep, like listening to it.

633
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,240
It was so cute.

634
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:35,640
I think we need to discuss him being like, ah, yes, time to tell a bedtime story only

635
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:42,240
to tell the story of like a gruesome battle and have all of the warriors like sitting

636
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,960
around listening to him.

637
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,880
And she's like, you cannot be telling her that.

638
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:52,040
And he's genuinely perplexed as to why not, which did make me think of how I went to see

639
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,200
Madeline Miller years ago, the author of the song Achilles.

640
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,560
I went to see her at like a signing event thing.

641
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:05,440
And I have a vivid memory of her telling this story about how her bedtime stories that her

642
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:10,160
mom would read to her, she would read to her from the Iliad.

643
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,420
And I love the Iliad.

644
00:33:11,420 --> 00:33:17,400
So she said that and I was like, why is that something that not only would I see myself

645
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,680
doing, but I probably will do.

646
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:25,400
Like I am the kind of person to read to my children from the Iliad before bed, which

647
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:31,040
if you've ever read the Iliad, you know, battle scenes are like, and then the spear sliced

648
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:36,520
up through his jaw, severing his tongue and coming out the back of his head and his soul

649
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:43,480
departed before his body hit the ground, like over and over and over.

650
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:48,960
And I was like, wow, Alec, you and I, two peas in a pod.

651
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,600
It was again just before that, she's like, oh, that's so sweet.

652
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:56,080
He's reading to her telling her a story and then she gets closer and he's like, oh yeah,

653
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,080
it chopped off the arm.

654
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,080
And she's like, what?

655
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,880
And you know what?

656
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:00,880
Slay Alec.

657
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:01,880
Mm hmm.

658
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:02,880
He ate that.

659
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:11,440
Yeah, like everything, like it just to me felt like a solid B, B plus book, but it just

660
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:18,080
felt like there was always a little bit missing to like really bump it up to like a five star.

661
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,080
Like this would be, cause I would reread it.

662
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,080
Like it was not a bad book.

663
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,280
I enjoyed it.

664
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:23,280
Yeah.

665
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:28,320
And again, like I could read it three years later and not really remember, remember much

666
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,320
of it.

667
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,320
So it was like reading it for the first time.

668
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:36,360
But I'm just so curious to read more of Garwood's stuff.

669
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,840
They seem to get very well reviewed.

670
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:44,360
I mean, I feel like every romance author, like contemporary too, because a lot of big

671
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,880
contemporary authors love historical romance.

672
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,440
And I feel like every one of them that I've heard talk about like, what are the historical

673
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,400
romances that got you into writing?

674
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:54,840
They're like, oh, Julie Garwood.

675
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,920
And you can see why, like you can see her style.

676
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,480
And again, like even in Lord of Scandrels.

677
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:01,480
Where's my voice?

678
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:02,480
I'm so sorry.

679
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,000
I was like, yeah.

680
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,360
Why am I like a Muppet?

681
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,360
Pinocchio from Shrek?

682
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,120
I'm a real boy.

683
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,120
I'm wearing women's underwear.

684
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,120
It's a thong.

685
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,120
Good.

686
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,080
How could that happen?

687
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,080
Actually you know what?

688
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:26,360
On that note, on that note, on the Shrek jar note, I put in my review that this reminded

689
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:27,360
me of like Shrek.

690
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,480
If you made it like an old school romance.

691
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,160
Oh wait, go back.

692
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:36,440
The last thing I heard from you was on that note, on the Shrek jar note.

693
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,760
That's all you need.

694
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:44,880
In my initial review of this, I literally mentioned Shrek because I'm nothing if not

695
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:45,880
consistent.

696
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,880
And I, it's loading.

697
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:53,240
What are the six degrees of separation between Shrek and the other than the fact that he's

698
00:35:53,240 --> 00:35:54,240
Scottish?

699
00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:56,240
Yeah, I literally just said.

700
00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:59,240
Did I make that up?

701
00:35:59,240 --> 00:36:02,320
No, I feel like I'm right.

702
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,480
Yeah, I mean, well, I said English accent one time in a review and someone commented

703
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,280
that there's no such thing as the English accent.

704
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,320
Okay, shut the fuck up.

705
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:11,320
Yeah.

706
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:12,320
Or maybe I said British accent.

707
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:13,800
They said it's actually an English accent.

708
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:14,800
I was like, I don't know.

709
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:15,800
I'm American.

710
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:16,800
Also shut the fuck up.

711
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,600
Everyone knows what you mean when you say a British accent.

712
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,160
And they were like, well, there are certain parts.

713
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,280
I'm like, how am I supposed to know where this character, like what type?

714
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:24,280
I'm like, I don't know.

715
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,080
We know there are a million accents from all over England.

716
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,280
There are also a million accents from all over the U.S.

717
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,400
And I get somebody with like an American accent.

718
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,320
Would I be like, OK, but where in America?

719
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,320
Probably.

720
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,680
But also if it's a Brit, I'm like, OK, I get what you mean.

721
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,360
I don't know where Minnesota is.

722
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,400
Maybe sorry to the Brits who do.

723
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,000
I swear half the time it's like a blend of like New York and Texas.

724
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,580
And you're like, well, that's an interesting.

725
00:36:47,580 --> 00:36:50,240
But like, I know what you mean when you say an American accent.

726
00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:55,240
I believe I said I think I said British accent because I was like, well, you speak English.

727
00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:58,040
So like English accent doesn't make sense, but they said it was actually an English.

728
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,560
I don't care about them as a human being.

729
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,640
I have a hard time being corrected.

730
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,520
So it didn't sit well with me for things that really don't make sense.

731
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:08,520
I was like, I didn't respond.

732
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,120
I'm like, I'm not going to get into a battle on Goodreads.

733
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,080
That's just not my thing.

734
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:19,480
But like, it's just like, how am I supposed to know what part of England this person's

735
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,040
from with their accent?

736
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,680
Because it was a narrator.

737
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:23,720
It wasn't even a character.

738
00:37:23,720 --> 00:37:24,720
It was the narrator.

739
00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:28,840
I do not know where this narrator origin originated, not originated.

740
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:29,840
Sounds sexier.

741
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:30,840
Originated.

742
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:31,840
No, no, no, no.

743
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:32,840
That's a looter.

744
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:33,840
I don't know.

745
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,960
But in my review, I literally just said this is going to sound so odd, but this book reminds

746
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,640
me of Shrek and Fiona written as two humans featured in true 1980s fashion.

747
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,840
And if there was a rampant murder and lots of sex, maybe Dreamworks would want the rights.

748
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,000
Honestly, I do get that vibe.

749
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:54,280
It's not a one to one comparison, but I do 100% see the vibe.

750
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,280
Especially Shrek 1.

751
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,280
The vibe that you're talking about.

752
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:57,280
Yeah.

753
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:05,960
Where Shrek is just this grunty hero and then Fiona is just kind of waiting for the knight

754
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:06,960
in shining armor.

755
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:14,200
There's also like a million side characters that are giving fairy tale creature energy.

756
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,680
It just really, I picked up on it then.

757
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,380
You said it now.

758
00:38:20,380 --> 00:38:21,380
It's true.

759
00:38:21,380 --> 00:38:23,300
It's verified.

760
00:38:23,300 --> 00:38:29,320
One thing, however, that is not similar between the two is my next note, because I'm just

761
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,680
going through to make sure I hit all my points.

762
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:39,360
And that is that if violent, why sexy?

763
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,800
There's a part the first time that they fight people on the road where he just like rolls

764
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,920
out weaponless.

765
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,720
Number one, hilarious.

766
00:38:50,720 --> 00:38:54,080
What do you mean you're going to go take on four armed dudes?

767
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,440
That even feels like Shrek.

768
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,920
Honestly, that makes sense.

769
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,000
Or Shrek thinking about Fiona.

770
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,880
He's like, you're just going to walk out into the Merry Men and think they're going to be

771
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:04,880
fine.

772
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:05,880
Oh my God, I forgot about that.

773
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:06,880
Oh, Merry Men.

774
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:07,880
Okay, well, that's iconic.

775
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:08,880
Rolls out.

776
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:19,040
But that scene specifically, because the thing about it that really locked that into my brain

777
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:27,960
is that he does like a battle cry where basically he just roars before attacking them.

778
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:35,400
And I was like, this would not work if it was a British, an English man.

779
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:43,400
But if you give me a Scott and you tell me that he roars a battle cry, I'm like, that

780
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,160
kind of works for me.

781
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,240
Why does that kind of get me going?

782
00:39:49,240 --> 00:39:50,640
I can't even.

783
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,440
It's the Viking blood in me.

784
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:53,640
Yeah, really.

785
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,360
I mean, I'm surges.

786
00:39:55,360 --> 00:40:00,520
My Germanic ancestors are like, yeah, that'll work.

787
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,520
Love Starcraft and just war cries.

788
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,000
I do not love Starcraft.

789
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,000
Me neither.

790
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,000
I never had it.

791
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,000
War cries.

792
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:14,000
The only other thing I could think of was hiding a pickle on a Christmas tree.

793
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:19,120
Or like, Kruegen or like Strudel.

794
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:24,400
I don't know.

795
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:25,400
Anything with potatoes.

796
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,320
Yeah, no, that's so correct.

797
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:35,220
But that war cry, that and when he goes and he's like, just keep your eyes on me the entire

798
00:40:35,220 --> 00:40:39,160
time that we're talking to this clan and she's pissed about it, but like it's kind of hot

799
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,160
for some reason.

800
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,800
And he's ignoring her too, so it shouldn't be hot, but it worked.

801
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,840
And they ask what name is your wife called by?

802
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:55,320
And he takes a dramatic pause and then yells mine.

803
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,880
That did something for me.

804
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,560
I would like that.

805
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:05,120
It's immortalized next to the sauerkraut and war cry.

806
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,440
Sauerkraut, war cry, and what name is she called by?

807
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:09,440
Mine.

808
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,040
I was like, oh.

809
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,680
And then when he gets to the...

810
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,480
Something primitive part of my brain was just scratched.

811
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:17,480
Yeah.

812
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,080
And she was mad about it.

813
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,400
She's like, why didn't he introduce me?

814
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,640
And I'm like, girl, did you hear what he did say though?

815
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,200
The primitive part of my brain isn't always scratched like in these old school schools.

816
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,560
Sometimes I'm just like, dick.

817
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,200
But sometimes it's just, yeah.

818
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,880
Or like even like on their first night when she just like lays on him because she was

819
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:44,120
like cold and then he like immediately like puts one leg around her and is like, oh God.

820
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:49,080
I also loved when they got to like his homeland, like his land.

821
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:53,600
And then she expected him to like introduce her and he's just like, my wife.

822
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:54,600
And giving...

823
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:55,600
What was that word you were at?

824
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:56,600
My wife.

825
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,600
And just leaves and she's like, that's not...

826
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:01,600
That's so rude of you.

827
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:02,600
Like I'm a person.

828
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,400
But the part of me was just like his wife.

829
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:06,400
Iconic though.

830
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:07,400
Yeah.

831
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,440
And you don't need any more information.

832
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:14,680
Because then he was like, well, they'll respect you because you're my wife.

833
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,680
And then when she was...

834
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:17,680
God.

835
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,720
There's so much because then she was asking if she could have some money because she was

836
00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:23,320
going to buy him a gift.

837
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,600
And she was going to buy him like something like out in the shop.

838
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:27,820
I can't remember what it was.

839
00:42:27,820 --> 00:42:32,160
And then she was like, I'm going to buy you a sword because Daniel had a lot of swords,

840
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,320
but you didn't have a sword when you fought those people.

841
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,000
First she was going to buy him an indulgence.

842
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,000
An indulgence.

843
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:42,800
An wedding gift, which she then proceeds to buy many of, only for the priest to go put

844
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,400
the money back in the box.

845
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,440
That whole bit was hysterical to me.

846
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:54,320
The fact that it got to the point where she would just grab a coin every time he annoyed

847
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:55,320
her.

848
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,200
And then she was like, can you take note of how many people you killed?

849
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:59,200
Because I need to know.

850
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,200
I need to know how many indulgences to buy.

851
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:07,520
He's like, no, I didn't kill any of them.

852
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:12,160
And she's like, I don't really believe you.

853
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:17,440
I just love when she was like, okay, so then I'm going to buy you a sword too, because

854
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,120
I'm so generous.

855
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,120
And you didn't have one.

856
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:21,480
And it's kind of a manly thing that you should have.

857
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,360
And I just feel kind of weird about you not having one.

858
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:29,960
Only for her to see his bedroom, which wall to wall covered in weaponry.

859
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,320
And she looks at it and she's like, I just visualized her looking at them and just being

860
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,120
like, I want one.

861
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,480
I felt the flames in her eyes.

862
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:41,480
Yeah.

863
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:42,480
Yeah.

864
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:51,280
Like it was giving slow turns of like, you let me say this stupidest shit to you.

865
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:56,520
It's giving Katniss in Catching Fire when Joanna is stripping in the elevator and Peta

866
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:57,520
is like checking her out.

867
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:02,000
And Katniss's face, she like turns and she like cocks her mouth and she's like, it's

868
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,000
giving that.

869
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,000
You should look it up if you don't know.

870
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:08,400
I like that she then did also like threaten to kill him in his sleep.

871
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:09,400
Yeah.

872
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,360
And everybody was like, should we be concerned about that?

873
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:15,280
And he was like, yeah, like I love all the parts where she was like, he's a very patient

874
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:16,280
man.

875
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:17,280
Like I said it before, like he's a very patient man.

876
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:21,360
And everyone looks around like this guy, or like he's a very funny guy.

877
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:22,360
And they're like, huh?

878
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,320
And then she like consult him or like talk back.

879
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:26,520
And he's just like fine with it.

880
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,400
Like that was like the peak of their romance to me.

881
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,440
It was like all of those little things.

882
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,120
It was just the bones.

883
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,120
The bones were good.

884
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:39,120
The bones were good.

885
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:43,200
What are my other notes?

886
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:44,820
Declaring war all the time.

887
00:44:44,820 --> 00:44:48,600
Why are men so dramatic?

888
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:53,280
The way that that chapter opened with like she then proceeded to start three different

889
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:54,280
wars.

890
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:59,480
I could talk myself into giving this five stars.

891
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,680
It's one of those where I could just like count everything that happens.

892
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:07,360
I think that Annie thing is going to prevent me from ever quite getting it up to five.

893
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,640
But I do understand what you like.

894
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:15,680
It was just a very silly, like there were serious times and he was a real piece of work.

895
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:23,680
But the way that everyone was declaring war every five minutes, the way that her sister

896
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,520
was like, hey, my husband is the worst.

897
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:26,520
Can I stay here?

898
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,320
And she was like, yeah, for sure.

899
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:35,880
Only for her husband, who is allies with their plan to then declare war.

900
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:43,520
And then Alec is like, no, like, no, because I don't want your wife either.

901
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:44,520
Unhinged.

902
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:50,220
Why were there so many wars?

903
00:45:50,220 --> 00:45:55,080
And then those twins, when she beat the shit out of the wrong twin.

904
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:56,880
And then that twin got mad.

905
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:57,880
They declared a war.

906
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:02,520
Yeah, and tried to declare war on behalf of his brother, who she meant to beat with a

907
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,120
club because he kissed her.

908
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,160
And then she went to go get Alec and Alec was like, I am busy.

909
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:11,920
And she proceeded to drag a club off the wall and outside.

910
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,400
And Alec was just like, huh, I wonder what that is about.

911
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,200
Alec, what do you think it's about?

912
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,320
You know, this brings me to a lesson.

913
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,200
I had no lesson, but I have not thought of one.

914
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:28,320
Always get involved in a land war in Scotland.

915
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,480
For the Princess Bride peeps out there or the people who haven't seen Princess Bride

916
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:32,480
on Reddit.

917
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:37,440
It doesn't quite hold up for the Scots in the clearances.

918
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,640
Yeah, that's true.

919
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,600
But the British did get involved.

920
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:50,120
You know, you could argue it turned out all right for them, unfortunately, for the Scottish

921
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:51,560
people.

922
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:52,680
For everyone, yeah.

923
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,400
My lesson that I wrote down, we're not done with my notes.

924
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:57,400
We're going to come back to those.

925
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:02,480
My lesson is that plaids are the most versatile statement piece.

926
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:03,840
You want to be sexy?

927
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:04,840
Plaid.

928
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:05,840
You want to get warm?

929
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:06,840
Plaid.

930
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,440
You want to scandalize your wife with your bare bottom knees, as he said?

931
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,080
Why she was like, why is he naked as a baby's butt?

932
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,640
Why are his knees out?

933
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:22,440
Scottish men's knees are the equivalent part of the body.

934
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:23,440
So true.

935
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:24,440
Wear a plaid.

936
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:31,000
Delicate toes, bare knees.

937
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:35,200
I just think the plaid lifted, so it carried.

938
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:36,200
It carried.

939
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:41,440
There was one, no, no, that was a washrag.

940
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,440
It was a Lindsay Sands.

941
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:47,160
I was thinking it was his plaid rising when he had an erection.

942
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:51,200
But he was like taking a bath and then she like throws a washcloth at him and it like

943
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,000
gets caught by his dick.

944
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,440
And like that stuck with me.

945
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:56,440
You told me this, yeah.

946
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:00,000
Yeah, that was The Chase by Lindsay Sands.

947
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,040
What a good author.

948
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:03,400
You need to read Lady Pirate.

949
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,400
I do.

950
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:05,400
It was that one.

951
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:10,840
I think it actually that one should be in season three because it's definitely old school.

952
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,920
And the cover and just everything that happens.

953
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,800
I think about it frequently.

954
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,400
And I did go back and read like the last half of that book quite recently because I was

955
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,560
like, I just need to be in that world.

956
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,960
Nothing else was like inspiring me.

957
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:31,280
And that man who didn't know he was marrying a pirate inspired me.

958
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:35,960
Well this man didn't know who he was marrying either because Beak Foley was like, yes, she's

959
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:36,960
a very innocent.

960
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:37,960
That was funny.

961
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,760
She's a very gentle soul.

962
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,920
She can't ride horses or do things.

963
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:49,640
That's why like this would really be we should have really started with around roundabouts

964
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,960
of this book for our old school school.

965
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:58,120
Like if people were like reading along with us and like maybe hadn't read, starting with

966
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,120
Prisoner of My Desire.

967
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:01,120
We didn't know.

968
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:02,120
We didn't know.

969
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,000
But like we are educating ourselves.

970
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:09,560
What a book to start out with, honestly.

971
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:10,560
Yeah.

972
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:19,560
This one just I think would be such a good intro to people because it was just so funny.

973
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,360
And like you said, like a good Highlander.

974
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:29,400
Because it does give you the Highlander like alpha like vibe to get you kind of used to

975
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:30,400
that.

976
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,000
But then he's also like a teddy bear for us.

977
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,960
He's also just getting dragged all the time.

978
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:34,960
Yeah.

979
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:39,680
I think I'm gonna quote where like I think it was the priest who said essentially she's

980
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,920
as flawed as a clear blue sky.

981
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:47,120
And Alec was like a clear blue sky isn't flawed.

982
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,960
And his response was to a blind man it is.

983
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:55,520
I was like drag this man.

984
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,880
He doesn't even know he's being insulted.

985
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:03,280
He's that side eye.

986
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,320
I mean the best movies have the best side characters.

987
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:07,320
That's true.

988
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:08,320
This book.

989
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:09,320
All his little soldiers.

990
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:13,800
They're like did you have a good nap?

991
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,240
He's like, shut the fuck up.

992
00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:21,480
But watch my wife and make sure she doesn't get murdered.

993
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:25,520
We're not going to tell her that there's a potential for her to get murdered.

994
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,240
But make sure she doesn't.

995
00:50:28,240 --> 00:50:31,400
The people they were like well shouldn't she know so that she's like on guard?

996
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,560
She's like no.

997
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:38,120
Meanwhile she's hearing like ominous laughter being locked in rooms when they're like huts

998
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,760
and them getting set on fire.

999
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,760
Nearly and then I forgot about the whole cliff scene.

1000
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,360
I was like oh my god.

1001
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:50,160
She gets like pushed off a cliff with Gavin, one of the soldiers and then he's like unconscious.

1002
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,200
She like faints to a certain side.

1003
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:56,640
She gets stabbed and she like goes over the cliff with the guy and then they're like on

1004
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:57,640
a ledge.

1005
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:58,640
It was a whole thing.

1006
00:50:58,640 --> 00:50:59,640
It was a whole thing.

1007
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:00,640
It's true.

1008
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:09,520
And then at that like it also felt very anticlimactic almost with Annie too.

1009
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,800
Not just because you were kind of like god damn it like why.

1010
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:19,280
But I also just felt like well actually no I liked it because then we never think.

1011
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,080
We don't know what happened to her.

1012
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:22,080
Yeah that's true.

1013
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:27,200
I liked though how like someone was like I know who it was and he's like I think I know

1014
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:28,200
who it was too or something.

1015
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:33,160
I was like who because I'm me and don't pick up on things.

1016
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,480
But yeah you don't really know what.

1017
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,200
Because he refuses to tell her.

1018
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,200
She's laughing maniacally and then the laughter stops.

1019
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:42,200
Oh yeah.

1020
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:43,680
Well I wonder what happened.

1021
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:48,020
And he comes in and refuses to tell her what he's decided to do with Annie.

1022
00:51:48,020 --> 00:51:51,560
Which I had to assume meant he had killed her.

1023
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,720
Because she had killed in the past.

1024
00:51:54,720 --> 00:52:00,720
She had attempted to kill again and she was laughing about how she was going to keep killing

1025
00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:04,480
his wives.

1026
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:11,960
Like I just really think like it could have worked if she just hadn't made her rely on

1027
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,520
the like quote quote crazy person.

1028
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:21,140
Because it could have still been a sister who was angry that she was spurned and so

1029
00:52:21,140 --> 00:52:26,600
she just like held it in and then like it was festering but then she was able to like

1030
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,960
present a nice like affable like front.

1031
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,280
And I just don't know why.

1032
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:37,440
I mean I guess to like lead us astray but I just it felt unnecessary.

1033
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:38,440
Okay.

1034
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:39,440
It felt like why are we.

1035
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:40,440
Why?

1036
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:41,440
Why?

1037
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:42,440
Why?

1038
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:43,440
For what purpose?

1039
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:44,440
What do you mean?

1040
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:45,440
Yeah.

1041
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:46,440
Tragic.

1042
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:47,440
Unfortunate.

1043
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:53,280
And then also you get in the last well I had the audiobook sped up but in the in the last

1044
00:52:53,280 --> 00:53:01,040
like six minutes the old fiance that was alluded to at the beginning of the book and then you

1045
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:09,760
promptly forgot about and then he showed up and they're like hey he's here and he wants

1046
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:16,120
his money and then everyone just pelts this man with jewels which was like and they're

1047
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,400
all like repayment and I'm like crying because she.

1048
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:20,880
Well because they were the ones who would all like.

1049
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:21,880
Right.

1050
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,200
Because they were the ones who were like waging war or like declaring war on her and then

1051
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:29,720
because she was like she confessed it all to like the king who was there.

1052
00:53:29,720 --> 00:53:30,720
Slave.

1053
00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:31,760
Which was hilarious to get first.

1054
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,640
She was like talking about all of the things like the wars that she started and she didn't

1055
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:40,760
know that he was the king until he told her to kneel which was just a very funny scene

1056
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:46,680
I can't recreate it unfortunately for those who don't know but it was just so funny to

1057
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:51,040
see like all the people who had declared war then like throw the repayment in.

1058
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,920
Or like just anybody who helped and you have a character.

1059
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:55,920
Women.

1060
00:53:55,920 --> 00:54:01,160
Who like spent her whole life being sidelined and trying to make her it's giving type two

1061
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:07,960
enneagram energy of like if I'm useful you'll love me and like I have beef with type twos

1062
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:09,520
but in this case it made sense.

1063
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:14,840
I like to think that she became not a type two after this because she no longer felt

1064
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,840
like you know to be a woman is to perform but it's okay because she doesn't have to

1065
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:23,880
complete tasks to be appreciated now but she does complete tasks anyway because she wants

1066
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,320
to help people.

1067
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:28,320
Where was I going with that?

1068
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,120
Oh I was just emotional.

1069
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,240
You're declaring war on type two.

1070
00:54:33,240 --> 00:54:35,160
I have had issues.

1071
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:40,080
I'm so sorry if you're a type two enneagram but like I'm a type four and we simply we

1072
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:45,560
get along too well and then it all crashes and burns.

1073
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:46,560
It's bad.

1074
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:47,560
I'm on flames.

1075
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:48,560
I have no clue what I am.

1076
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:52,400
What's the enneagram who always takes the test and then promptly forgets what they are

1077
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,600
and then has to retake it and gets the like I'm assuming maybe gets the same answer and

1078
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:56,600
then continues to forget.

1079
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:01,040
Well strictly speaking the test can help you like point in the right direction but actually

1080
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,680
the enneagram doesn't rely on a test you're supposed to just type yourself.

1081
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,080
You're supposed to just research.

1082
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,200
There's another one so there's the enneagram and then there's.

1083
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:10,200
There is a test.

1084
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:11,200
There are lots of online tests.

1085
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:12,200
Yeah.

1086
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:13,200
But there are like two.

1087
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,160
There's like the enneagram and then there's.

1088
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,560
Are you going to make up Myers-Briggs that's fake?

1089
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:18,560
Yeah that.

1090
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:19,560
That's fake.

1091
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,240
Yeah well good because I never remember what I am.

1092
00:55:21,240 --> 00:55:22,240
I will take the enneagram.

1093
00:55:22,240 --> 00:55:23,720
And then I'm like I don't know what that says.

1094
00:55:23,720 --> 00:55:24,720
That's not a real thing.

1095
00:55:24,720 --> 00:55:27,720
Somebody just made that up.

1096
00:55:27,720 --> 00:55:32,560
However I do swear by enneagram and I don't do astrology either because this isn't like

1097
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,120
oh you were born at this type of year therefore you're this thing.

1098
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:40,680
This is just like this is what you value and therefore here is like the way that you tend

1099
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:45,560
to act in certain situations and also you can change types and you can like lean different

1100
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:46,560
ways and there are different.

1101
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,240
I have a lot of feelings about the enneagram.

1102
00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:54,120
The point is she was giving type two energy which means she tried to make herself invaluable

1103
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,280
by providing services.

1104
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,200
Yeah that's not me.

1105
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,120
No.

1106
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,520
And I don't want to be dramatic but they are the worst type.

1107
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:08,000
And I speak from very personal experience on numerous occasions.

1108
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,720
Y'all ain't shit.

1109
00:56:09,720 --> 00:56:10,720
Get a different personality.

1110
00:56:10,720 --> 00:56:16,320
I'm so sorry that was really aggressive and if you're type two.

1111
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:21,000
I feel like we need to have like a sleepover or like a steamy lit and just have you like

1112
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,840
get all of the like vent all of this.

1113
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:27,440
I just like.

1114
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:32,560
Because what is is type fours are rescue types and type twos are rescuers.

1115
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:37,760
So essentially as a type four one of my unfortunate quirks is that I'm always subconsciously or

1116
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,680
consciously looking for someone to save me.

1117
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:46,920
And type twos like to be needed and they like to do things that endear them to people because

1118
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:51,760
they think the only not consciously necessarily but they think that the only way to be loved

1119
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,380
is to make themselves useful to someone.

1120
00:56:54,380 --> 00:57:00,000
And so they want to be the saver and I want to be saved and you get into this very toxic

1121
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:05,480
relationship where then it all starts to deteriorate very quickly and the type two doesn't feel

1122
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:10,440
appreciated and the type four is confused and it goes poorly.

1123
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:16,560
And I know this from personal experience because I lived with a type two and it went badly

1124
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:22,040
and it all unfolded exactly the way all of the Enneagram things told me that it would.

1125
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:25,320
And so I never doubt the Enneagram anymore.

1126
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:26,320
Wow.

1127
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,840
I sound like a fanatic but that girl was the worst.

1128
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:34,320
So I now want to like evaluate everyone.

1129
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:35,320
It's so much fun.

1130
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:39,000
My best friends and I like figured out what we are and we I had gotten a book actually

1131
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,640
ironically from that type two roommate.

1132
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,120
She gave me a book one year that was like a big dictionary of Enneagram things and bring

1133
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,920
it to steamy red even though it's probably like 10.

1134
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:48,920
It's hefty.

1135
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:49,920
It's fine.

1136
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,720
We can just use the internet.

1137
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:57,360
The internet exists but we spent hours like reading it and typing each other and going

1138
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:58,360
through all that.

1139
00:57:58,360 --> 00:57:59,360
It's interesting.

1140
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:03,360
Anyway, she's a type two but I like to think that she developed past that now that she

1141
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:10,280
no longer needs to like compulsively make herself useful to be appreciated.

1142
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,600
What would Alec be?

1143
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,000
Or Jamie?

1144
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:20,720
He might be a one, two, because we got to tie it back somehow.

1145
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:21,720
He's not a two.

1146
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,720
He's not a three, four.

1147
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:28,560
Oh, I bet he's an eight.

1148
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,640
Eights are super confrontational.

1149
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,160
Yeah.

1150
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,160
The only other one that I could think he might be is a one.

1151
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:41,760
Ones are they're very like they have a really strong moral code.

1152
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,600
They have like they want to do what is right.

1153
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:46,600
Yeah I don't feel like that.

1154
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,760
But no, I think he's a character.

1155
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:49,760
I can never remember.

1156
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:55,640
I only knew like one type eight person that's not a personality type.

1157
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,720
They're called the challenger.

1158
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:01,280
They're self-confident, strong and assertive, protective, resourceful, straight talking

1159
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,480
and decisive but can also be egocentric and domineering.

1160
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:05,480
Come on.

1161
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,640
Wow, you just pulled that right out of a hat.

1162
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:09,640
I mean I googled it.

1163
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,360
Well, I know on that but you pulled type eight.

1164
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,080
Well, there's only nine types.

1165
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,800
I just said that's nine to know.

1166
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:19,560
You remembered them all.

1167
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,080
I mean some of them.

1168
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:28,760
Okay, if you google type two without adding any gram, you will get diabetes.

1169
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:29,760
That is believable.

1170
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,560
And it's good.

1171
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:38,080
You should if you're typing that in.

1172
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:42,880
I really think she's a type two, the helper.

1173
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:48,200
They want to be loved to express their feelings for others to be needed and appreciated.

1174
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:52,400
It says they're empathetic, sincere and warm-hearted, friendly, generous and self-sacrificing but

1175
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:56,480
can also be sentimental, flattering and people pleasing.

1176
00:59:56,480 --> 01:00:00,320
The only thing is she seems like a healthy two.

1177
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,360
Because that can be like when you are on the worst side of things.

1178
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,320
That's when you get into like the things that I was talking about where you're putting other

1179
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,720
people's problems before yours and relying on that.

1180
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:12,960
But if you're a healthy type two, you can just genuinely be somebody who likes being

1181
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:14,440
of service and is very empathetic.

1182
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:18,840
You're so right though because it's always like the older sibling.

1183
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:22,840
She was a younger sibling but like she was cast in an older sibling typical.

1184
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:27,880
So like you always see it in the books where they're always like sacrificing themselves

1185
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:32,200
or they're always like choosing their siblings or their family over like love at the like

1186
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:33,200
80% mark.

1187
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:34,560
And that's what are you doing.

1188
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:35,560
You're right.

1189
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:36,560
You're right.

1190
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,920
I have a grudge against fictional type twos.

1191
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,200
That could just be like a self-sacrificing thing.

1192
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,200
Like any type could do that.

1193
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,840
But it's those characters that are constantly.

1194
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:47,840
Yeah.

1195
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,040
But those are the ones that I really dislike in books.

1196
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:54,520
Because I'm just like I in multiple reviews I'm like I think I'm just selfish but like

1197
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:55,520
couldn't be me.

1198
01:00:55,520 --> 01:01:00,680
And it really wraps me the wrong way when I read too much of that kind of character.

1199
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,360
A lot of heroines are type twos.

1200
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:07,120
I think a lot of them are type fours which is funny because type four is supposedly a

1201
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,240
very rare type but were they individualists.

1202
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:18,400
So we care about like authenticity and being like unique and true to ourselves.

1203
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,400
And I feel like that fits a lot of the quirky.

1204
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:27,520
Yeah that was definitely me if not now as a like a kid throughout my life.

1205
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:32,400
I thought I was so well I mean to be fair you're not supposed to type yourself as a

1206
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:36,120
kid or like really as an early teen because it changes.

1207
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:39,000
Yeah I've grown up like I was like I can't wear uggs.

1208
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,720
I feel like that's just a teenage thing though.

1209
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:47,480
Like I think no kid wants to be like everybody else.

1210
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:53,580
I think a lot of like those quirky heroines might also be fives are like knowledge driven.

1211
01:01:53,580 --> 01:01:58,060
So they tend to be more introverted but they want to understand everything.

1212
01:01:58,060 --> 01:01:59,800
And that gives a lot of quirky heroine vibes.

1213
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:03,040
I feel like a lot of heroes are type one or type eight.

1214
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,000
Type one is going to become a new segment.

1215
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:06,000
Yeah it is.

1216
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:09,760
I'm yeah I okay look I love any of you're not supposed to any of Graham's type other

1217
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:14,200
people but I feel like it's different with characters because you're inside their brain.

1218
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:15,720
And I have a lot of feelings about it.

1219
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,840
Well a lot of heroines are type nine too.

1220
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:18,840
They're peacemakers.

1221
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,920
Oh gosh yeah.

1222
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:27,960
Well we have uncovered a treasure trove.

1223
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:31,760
It is a treasure trove because you know who you don't see a lot in romance is threes and

1224
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:32,760
sevens.

1225
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:36,040
Well threes may be more on the hero side I could see.

1226
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:42,560
Threes are they base their person out or like their sense of self-worth off of their achievements.

1227
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:47,200
And I feel like you see that in heroes more than heroines although even then I don't I

1228
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,600
can't think of any type three heroes off the top of my head.

1229
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:53,960
I feel like they tend to be more ones where like they have a very strict moral code.

1230
01:02:53,960 --> 01:03:02,760
Achievements yeah that's hard because a lot of times when there's like a hero who's like

1231
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:08,960
driven to like achieve things it's so like spite someone or to like like if their father

1232
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:13,240
was like a wastrel they will like strive for perfection.

1233
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,000
But even then that's more type one though.

1234
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:19,400
Exactly because it's not like it's not they don't want to have to like they didn't choose

1235
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:20,780
this life for themselves.

1236
01:03:20,780 --> 01:03:21,780
It's like.

1237
01:03:21,780 --> 01:03:22,780
Oh you know who it is.

1238
01:03:22,780 --> 01:03:25,400
It's the it's the the self-made man heroes.

1239
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,080
It's the Lisa Klepitz capitalist heroes.

1240
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:32,680
Those are type threes.

1241
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:38,200
And then sevens I don't know a lot of sevens but they are like constantly seeking like

1242
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,320
adventure and things to do.

1243
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:44,080
They want to be going out and doing things and experiencing things and I feel like that's

1244
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:48,800
not that I have never seen it.

1245
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:53,520
They feel more to me like five.

1246
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:55,560
I'm doing hand things.

1247
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,560
Book three hero.

1248
01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:58,560
Grantham.

1249
01:03:58,560 --> 01:03:59,560
I don't know what he would be.

1250
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,560
I don't remember enough of his character.

1251
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:07,800
I just remember Sheila kept describing him as like the golden retriever kind of like.

1252
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:11,240
Maybe he's not very adventurous.

1253
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,760
Can't sit still I always think that.

1254
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:14,760
Well the movie.

1255
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,240
Yeah that's hard.

1256
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:21,000
I feel like threes and sevens I don't have really a ton off the top of my head.

1257
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:22,800
Most of the other types I can see.

1258
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:27,120
Fours actually are a little bit harder because fours tend to be portrayed pretty badly in

1259
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:28,600
media in my experience.

1260
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:34,920
Stay tuned for a series of us giving you recommendations based off of the any of them.

1261
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:36,280
You're gonna have to do a bunch of research.

1262
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:37,280
Yeah.

1263
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,280
We're gonna come back and start talking about subtypes.

1264
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:40,280
Wow.

1265
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,920
So what are fours?

1266
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:44,840
The individualists.

1267
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:51,000
We are afraid of because most of the types you identify them based on their core desire

1268
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:52,000
and their core fear.

1269
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:53,000
Fear.

1270
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,680
Well that's like a romance book.

1271
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:56,680
That's so true.

1272
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:57,680
Huzzah.

1273
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:01,680
So like I happen to be on the type two website I mean page right now and so like their basic

1274
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:05,600
fear is of being unwanted or unworthy of being loved.

1275
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,400
And so their basic desire is to feel love.

1276
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:14,040
Like those two things go hand in hand.

1277
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:15,040
Tell me.

1278
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,560
Tell me why.

1279
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,280
Type four.

1280
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:20,280
Our basic fear.

1281
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:21,280
Yeah.

1282
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:25,520
The basic fear of fours is that we have no identity or personal significance.

1283
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:31,200
And the desire is to find themselves and their significance and to create an identity.

1284
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:34,000
Where is my significance?

1285
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,000
Who am I?

1286
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:40,880
I'm gonna put a dollar in the musical theater jar.

1287
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:42,000
You have a Shrek jar.

1288
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:45,160
I have a musical theater jar.

1289
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,840
Love that for us.

1290
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:50,440
Everybody go research the Enneagram.

1291
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:54,360
Type yourself and then have fun typing all of your favorite characters because I have

1292
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:58,560
spent a lot of time and energy dedicated to that over the years.

1293
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:03,280
If I can remember because I you know like hit like I schedule these and then like I

1294
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:04,280
don't look back.

1295
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,960
So then with Spotify you have to like log into Spotify for podcasters then you have

1296
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:11,320
to go in and add a poll or like a question box.

1297
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:12,600
Maybe for some reason I think of it.

1298
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:17,600
I'll put one in there to tell us your Enneagram type or your character.

1299
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,600
Whoever you think would be whatever.

1300
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:22,120
Yeah I'm locking in my answers.

1301
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:23,120
Jamie is a two.

1302
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,040
Alec is an eight.

1303
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:29,760
Based on what you've told me since I know nothing else I will also agree.

1304
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:32,840
Yeah but then you can get into wings which is like which wings.

1305
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:36,280
Yeah so it's a circle one through nine is a circle.

1306
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:43,520
And so you lean if I'm a four I can lean three or I can lean five.

1307
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:50,360
And the way that your type presents can shift depending on which way you lean.

1308
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:56,800
So like five wing fours sorry four wing five tend to be a little bit more introverted.

1309
01:06:56,800 --> 01:07:01,320
Like we don't need to show the world that we have a unique personality.

1310
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:10,800
Whereas type like four wing three which is what I am were a bit more in your face if

1311
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:11,800
you will.

1312
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:16,080
We're a bit more social a bit more flamboyant.

1313
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:21,560
A bit more I will make Instagram recommendations.

1314
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:22,560
A bit more.

1315
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:23,560
I'm gonna.

1316
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:27,280
Because I am the expert.

1317
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:28,640
Yeah pretty much.

1318
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:29,640
Pretty much.

1319
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:33,720
And then you get like triads and subtypes and things so it's a whole thing.

1320
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:34,720
It's a whole thing.

1321
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:36,800
Well this is open to can of worms.

1322
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,080
You're so welcome.

1323
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:40,480
Right at the end of the season.

1324
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:41,480
Really.

1325
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,480
Tune in next season.

1326
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:48,920
Honestly I don't know in the outro portion of this episode I don't know how much books

1327
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:50,520
for the holidays Ima have read.

1328
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,520
I don't think we're gonna end up doing a holiday specific.

1329
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:53,520
I don't think so.

1330
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,080
I think we're just gonna end up doing like round up.

1331
01:07:56,080 --> 01:08:00,520
I think that makes my life easier because I was like I don't.

1332
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:03,080
Yeah I've got like no desire.

1333
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:09,880
We just took an hour and a half detour to basically talk about everything and nothing

1334
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:14,880
and you're gonna get that as a special Christmas gift to you later.

1335
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:16,560
Somehow it's a Christmas episode.

1336
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:18,480
It starts out with Christmas movies.

1337
01:08:18,480 --> 01:08:19,480
Yeah.

1338
01:08:19,480 --> 01:08:24,040
And a lot of reenactments of just quotes from Christmas movies.

1339
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:28,400
It features two really excellent impressions from me.

1340
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:34,320
One of Cliff from Home Alone 2.

1341
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:36,360
And one of the adults from Peanuts.

1342
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,160
So you have that to look forward to.

1343
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,160
She had really good impressions guys.

1344
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:43,540
I was kind of like gagged a little bit.

1345
01:08:43,540 --> 01:08:45,080
You were gagged on the second one.

1346
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:47,520
Why are you so good at this?

1347
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:48,920
It was really good.

1348
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:54,480
Like you could have put her in that movie, any of those short films, like I would not

1349
01:08:54,480 --> 01:08:55,480
have known.

1350
01:08:55,480 --> 01:08:56,480
It was her moment.

1351
01:08:56,480 --> 01:08:59,000
It's because I actually am the adults from Peanuts.

1352
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,560
That's my spirit.

1353
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:02,560
That's her spirit.

1354
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,200
So we did that.

1355
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:06,680
So you will hear that eventually.

1356
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:07,680
It's like an hour and a half.

1357
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:08,680
It's long.

1358
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:09,680
It's non-credits.

1359
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:10,680
Yeah.

1360
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,680
If you listen to the episode you'll get it.

1361
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:15,120
There are some book recs.

1362
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:16,120
There's some other recs.

1363
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:17,120
You see a few.

1364
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:18,120
I tried my best.

1365
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:23,360
From two people who just don't want to be reading holiday romances right now, we did

1366
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:24,360
our best.

1367
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:26,040
We did.

1368
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:34,580
So to wrap up this one, Plaid is a statement piece and it's always a good idea to start

1369
01:09:34,580 --> 01:09:36,080
a land war in Scotland.

1370
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:41,760
Yeah, because you'll have a hot Scottish husband by the end of it.

1371
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:47,680
I mean what other lessons do we even need from 2023 old school school?

1372
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:55,360
We'll be back for our various end of year wrap ups and for that random special Christmas

1373
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:57,920
gift episode.

1374
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:04,320
If you have any old school school ones that you want to see us read next season.

1375
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:09,200
And if you have strong feelings about superlatives that you would like for us to give away.

1376
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:10,960
Please have strong feelings about superlatives.

1377
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:12,040
We did it last year.

1378
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:15,440
You can check out last season's episode to get a feel for it.

1379
01:10:15,440 --> 01:10:18,120
We'll probably post a newsletter.

1380
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:20,560
We can send out requesting there too because we have that now.

1381
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,040
We haven't posted enough.

1382
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:23,040
Look, and that's on me.

1383
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,600
We could do like holiday novellas.

1384
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,960
But I've also been like we could and then I just don't.

1385
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:32,080
Yeah, life is crazy guys.

1386
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:33,840
So who knows?

1387
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:38,760
That's not a commitment.

1388
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:44,720
But yeah, so let us know for this year, next year, whatever you want to see us do.

1389
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:50,200
If there's like a book you've been like dying for us to cover.

1390
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:55,480
Okay, well, ho ho ho, our hoes, our throbbing members.

1391
01:10:55,480 --> 01:10:57,440
Our throbbing members.

1392
01:10:57,440 --> 01:11:01,120
Okay, we'll see you for our- we'll see you.

1393
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:08,080
You'll hear our voices for the end of wrap up 2023.

1394
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:20,640
I don't know, I started this sentence without knowing.

1395
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:21,640
Don't you leave.

1396
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:22,640
Oh no.

1397
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:25,160
The bell does not dismiss you, we do.

1398
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:26,160
Oh no.

1399
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:27,160
Oh no.

1400
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:28,160
Flashbacks.

1401
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:33,240
Yeah, nothing induced my rage like the bell does not dismiss me, we do.

1402
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:34,240
So I apologize.

1403
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:39,240
I have power issues like I have with authority.

1404
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:42,160
I always wanted to be like no, the bell does dismiss us.

1405
01:11:42,160 --> 01:12:05,600
That is why the bell is there.