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I knew the Muppets theme song. I would hum it. I don't know why that came into my head with what I was just doing.

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I tried to think of the Muppet theme song just now and what I got instead was the dinosaurs theme song.

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Did you ever watch the show Dinosaurs?

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No, but I watched the one with the magic dinosaur stone thing.

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No. Not a cartoon.

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Dragon Tales. That was Dragon Tales, not Dinosaurs.

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No, no, no. Okay. This recently came up because I was staying with a friend who also had not seen Dinosaurs.

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There are two types of families in the world. The families who you will say, have you ever watched Dinosaurs?

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And they'll go, what is that? No, kind of like you did just now.

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And then there's the families, like the family that I come from, where the answer is, yes, of course we've watched Dinosaurs, not the mama.

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So, and if you'd watched Dinosaurs, you'll know exactly what I just did.

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There's a, I was going to open this with a question to our listeners about what level of animal death is approved in their romance novels,

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but we're going to have to come back to that way down the line.

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We'll come back to it in our next episode when I'm talking about the book that is in this book.

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Oh no, we're coming back to it. Is it in today? No.

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Okay. I was like, in what next episode would we be talking about?

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Well, the Halloween one is what I'm talking about. The book that I was talking about, the death being in, it's going to be that I'm going to talk about.

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We'll come back to that next episode. You've got some time to think on it, get it percolating.

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Dinosaurs was a sitcom, and I believe the 90s, question mark, although nobody quote me on that, because I wasn't born until 98, so I don't know.

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Well, it's a sitcom, but it's set in the- Oh, it's that one? Yes.

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I only know that from the Happy Days preview that would be in VHS's.

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Sunday, Monday, Happy Days. That one.

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In front of the Rugrats and stuff and a lot of old VHS's we have in our cabin, they have these weird freaking dinosaurs in it, and I never knew what they were.

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It's like if you're watching a typical family sitcom, but it's set in prehistoric times and they're all dinosaurs.

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The dad is named Earl, and he works at a construction site, and he comes home every day, and he just wants to watch TV. Fran is the mom, and she's very put upon.

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They have a teenage son and a tween teenage daughter, and then at the very beginning of the show, they have a baby.

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The baby is by far the funniest character in the show, and he refers to Earl as not the mama. Hence my not the mama.

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And he smacks him with stuff all the time, and it's one of the funniest shows genuinely I have ever seen. At least at the beginning.

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We never watched into the later seasons. Yes. So it was created, or at least the idea was come up with by Jim Henson.

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So they're kind of like Muppets. Oh, so it's- I mean the Muppets ties into that.

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We can segue. Well, that's true, but I immediately got that- which is their song.

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Anyway, I highly recommend Dinosaurs. It is genuinely very funny.

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This has answered a question that I've harbored in the back of my brain.

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It's excellent. We watched one this weekend while I was staying with my friend. She put on one I had never seen, because our family never watched into the later seasons.

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We only watched the first few. But we watched them a lot, and we quote them a lot to this day.

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Dang, the only dinosaur one that I really vibed with was The Land Before Time. And even then, I'm traumatizing.

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Yeah, I think I remember watching it and being like, why would you show me this?

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Yeah, like I still say, yep, yep, yep. Like that. Like Ducky, she lives with me. The trauma also lives with me, because I was too young for that.

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But yeah, I get not the mama. I also get- this scene actually lives in my head rent free.

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There's a scene where the dad is watching TV, as he is doing a lot.

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And the baby's hand comes up from like kind of in front of the couch under the table and starts like kind of feeling around.

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And he's like, don't you touch that remote. And he touches it.

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And I'm forgetting the exact sequence, but he says something about like, you better not change that channel.

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And he does. And he goes, if you turn that TV off, you're going to be one sorry little dinosaur.

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And he does. And then he pops up and goes, I'm sorry.

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And I quote that too much. I quoted a lot. Like a lot.

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That's crazy that I never watched that. I- mom just wants to know.

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I am the mighty Megalosaurus, the king of the dinosaurs. The T-Rex is the king of the dinosaurs.

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I know, I dated one in high school.

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A T-Rex? I was quoting for him, but yes.

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I was like, wow. Not to brag, but I'm living all the Katie Robert heroine life.

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Yeah. Except for maybe the two dicks will actually be useful.

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Just saying. That's dragons, not T-Rexes. That is dragons.

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Does she have a dinosaur? She hasn't written any dinosaurs, no.

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I don't know, but I did read the one where he chomped off her arm and she got horny over it.

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Classic. There was that. Wow.

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Yeah, that still lives with me. Like, yeah, your mate's fed, but it's your arm.

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So. But it's your arm.

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I don't- The Wonderful World of Dinosaurs. Jurassic Park, my favorite film score. Shout out to my man,

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John Williams. My man. Just a baller soundtrack.

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Johnny Wills.

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Johnny Wills. Yeah. And I think he'd make a bomb soundtrack for

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bewitching if he ever decided to just have something to do in his spare time.

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That's probably true. This would make a fun- Actually, the whole time I was reading it,

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well, actually, pre I was reading it when I first heard about it and added it to my want to read

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shelf, I was like, so you're telling me that if I really like the show, bewitched. Yeah.

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But I want it as like a historical romance. That exists.

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That exists. And for the most part, I feel like that's an accurate comp.

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Cool. Because I think I've seen like some bewitched.

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Gasp. What an excellent show. I know.

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It's one of my mom's favorite shows. So we watch that one a lot too.

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I was wondering, because I was like, assuming that it felt those vibes, but I didn't know.

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I mean, except the bewitched is like a sitcom. So yeah.

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Yeah. Like, I think I watched more Sabrina with Melissa Joan Hart.

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Yeah. I didn't watch much. I've seen episode, but that's-

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like pretty much. And Nickelodeon.

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Dinosaurs and bewitched kid, apparently.

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And Jane Austen.

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And Jane Austen, yeah.

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And Shakespeare.

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Yeah. Yeah. Different vibes. Speaking of different vibes, it makes me laugh that you're

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wearing a Camp Half-West shirt. I'm currently wearing a crop Lando Norris, Texas Grand Prix

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jersey. So once again, we are the two wolves inside you.

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We are. So who's your favorite now?

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I think it's Lando. I think he has surpassed Charl.

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I know.

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I mean, I do still- like, listen, I want Charl to be a world champion. And I want Ferrari to stop

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fucking his life. Did you see- you don't care about F1, but he did get disqualified from the

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Grand Prix. What?

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Yeah. He and Lewis Hamilton both got disqualified after the race.

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How do you get disqualified?

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It was like the plank under his car was a few tenths of a millimeter to-

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basically it was like running a little bit too low to the ground. And so it's an unfair advantage

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by a few tenths of a millimeter, she says. Annoyed. It was complicated. It wasn't as bad for him.

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I mean, he came in sixth after starting in first because of terrible strategy.

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Classic Ferrari move.

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But it does mean that he lost a place in the Drivers' Championship and Lando went up a place.

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They swapped.

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He also went up a position for me to be in.

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Yeah, he did. I mean, he was already kind of there.

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It really sucked for Lewis Hamilton because Lewis Hamilton came in second

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and absolutely killed that drive. He was excellent. And then they disqualified him.

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That would hurt.

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Yeah. Yeah. So-

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I did not see that.

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It was a wild weekend.

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How was it?

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It was great. It was awesome. It was really hot.

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It was so hot.

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Yeah, it was not envious of the hot, but it looked fun.

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I loved your pose.

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Thank you. See, I think I'm hilarious.

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Well, because I knew you had told me about what it was.

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Well, I got there. For context, if you don't follow me on Instagram, there's an excellent meme-

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What are you doing?

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So true.

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There's a meme of George Russell because in the intro to the F1 intro this year,

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they show very dramatic shots of all of the drivers posing dramatically,

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but mostly fairly normally, except for a few.

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And George, if you look up his- I'm sure if you look up George Russell meme,

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it'll come up or pose, whatever. He's T-posing very aggressively with his head down.

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But his foot is crossed.

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Yeah, he's got a foot crossed and he's got his arms on the walls next to him with his head

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down. And then he looks up very dramatically and stares into the camera.

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And this has been a meme all year that people have photoshopped into different things.

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And so I showed up at COTA.

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Well, really I took the picture at the end of the day because there were fewer people,

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but at the entrance they had big hashtag CO, and then there was a blank with little places

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where you put your feet and then A, so you could stand and be the T in COTA.

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Be the T.

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Very cute.

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Be the T you want to see.

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Exactly.

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And I watched person after person go up and just smile, do a little T pose. It was cute.

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Or here's the dad with the kids all kind of in a row in front of him doing it. Very adorable.

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And I was like-

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Where's the drama? Where's the cinema?

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I was like, the perfect opportunity has been handed to us on a plate.

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I don't under- So I did it, obviously. And somebody commented that they also did it

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because apparently they were at COTA and they did that. So I'm glad. I'm sure others did,

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but nobody that I saw. And I was deeply disappointed by all of the people that I was watching.

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You would think people would do both.

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I mean, I did both. I have like one of me just smiling, but it's just that the George

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Russell T pose is right there.

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And that's why it's there, right? That's why the-

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No, I'm sure it was there. I'm sure that was just a thing.

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Oh, well that just fits perfectly though.

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No, it just happened. I was like, look at this. How magical. How perfect. Anyway, it was a great

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time. 10 out of 10, we'll probably go back next year. I'm going to try to- This is not going to

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actually happen. However, in my dreams, so forever announced- Oh my gosh, let me back up. I started

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working for Forever Again party, but not as an intern, as an actual employee. You'll love to see

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it. And they announced that they had acquired an F1 romance. And I'm like, how do I convince

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the higher ups that sending me, and honestly, I would try to convince Dana to go to the Grand Prix

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is a business expense. I actually have to go for marketing purposes, right? It seems reasonable

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to me. So I think that they should- Rainy author. And then you're golden.

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Here we go. We can all go sit in the grandstand. It'll only cost several thousand dollars.

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It's for love, okay? It's for love.

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It's for love. And for money. We don't-

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Love and money. We just pray for cars, right?

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So none of this is relevant. I got up on a tangent there. Why? Oh, T-Pose. George Russell.

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Formula One, wearing a jersey. I'm in love with Lando Norris.

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Yes. Who ever thought that Charles LeClair, I mean, I just get disqualified from your heart.

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You know what? I should have seen it coming. Because here's the thing. Charles is lovely.

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He's very classically handsome. You look at him and you're like, wow, that is a handsome man.

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Lando Norris is funny though. And one thing about me is you can be a very strange and or mediocre

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looking man. But if you're funny, like I would take you to my penthouse and I'd freak it. You

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know what I mean? Like, you got me. That's all you needed to do. And Lando Norris is very funny.

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And also, I didn't think he was attractive, but I've apparently revised that previous statement.

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Suddenly, there are a lot of thirst trap Lando Norris edits saved in my TikTok.

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Because he was the Noah Centineo one. Is that him?

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Yes, I think. Or he wasn't the Liam one.

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No, no, no. I think he was. He called him Noah Centineo.

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Yeah. I don't know how to explain it, but I've watched a lot of edits.

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And I've watched a lot of videos of him being very silly and bullying his teammate,

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who I also love. Also, all the IndyCar McLaren drivers are hot and they just

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signed their they decided to be the sponsor for an F1 Academy driver. I mean, all of the F1 teams

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are going to sponsor an F1 Academy driver, but I really like the driver that they picked.

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Is that for women? Yeah.

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Yeah. Nice.

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And there's like, they're just all hot and funny.

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Hell, yeah. I just saw that there's going to be a pro women's hockey league.

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Oh. And it's like Minnesota, Massachusetts.

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Well, I mean, I suppose like Minnesota, Boston, New York, and then two or three places in Canada.

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I know Toronto and Ontario, maybe. So like, they at least got the states right and the Canada right.

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I'm excited. I don't know when it's going to I don't know what's going to happen,

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but I will be purchasing the merch. I'm excited.

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I love that. So, I know my mom told me about it today. I was like, why haven't I heard about that?

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Hmm. So sports. Gotta love it. Sports. Sports. And witches. And witches.

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And witches. It only took us 15 minutes to take it.

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Well, technically you brought it around way sooner. I just took a second to hand it.

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That's okay. We got on the broomstick and puttered away for a little bit.

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So true. So, yeah.

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We wouldn't be romance or TBR if we didn't have at least one episode the past few weeks

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that tangents egregiously in the best way, because we've been pretty good lately.

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Just because like, I don't know, I feel like we've been tired.

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Which I'm not saying I'm not tired. Don't get me wrong.

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We're always tired. Tired is a constant state of.

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You come to me in a day. You come to me on a day when I'm so sleepy.

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Tired is my resting emotion.

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Okay. We are going to put our tiredness on pause and talk about Bewitching by Jill Burnett.

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Yes, we are. Yes, we are. Spoilers ahead. Many spoilers.

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Spoilers. Oh, we're going to be talking about the

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spoilers. Spoilers. We teased a little bit about it last week in our episode. I hadn't read it yet.

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Caroline had. And then I just finished the audiobook today.

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She read the ebook. I did the audio and the audio was very good. So I endorse the audio.

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I forgot I read the ebook. I have the physical book.

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The physical. Yeah, I have the ebook. I got it for some time.

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Wait, because if I have the ebook, then I have highlights. But if I only because sometimes I will

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like download the ebook and then mark highlights. Yeah, even though I'm reading with it. OK, no,

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I don't have the ebook. So I only had the physical book, which means I have no highlights.

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Um, trad. Delatable. Yep.

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So we're just going to have to roll off with whatever I remember, which frankly isn't much.

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I mean, it starts. Yeah, so she's a witch.

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Gotta love it. I just love historical paranormal, like because there's not a lot.

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And so it's just so comforting. I really enjoy it. But she's like a full on witch.

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Like, I mean, she's not a great witch.

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Which same a poor witch is a poor skill. Yes. But heart, she is rich.

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She is talented at being in love with a gray haired Duke named something that I can't remember.

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Oh, no, not me also not knowing. Hang on. Wait, Alec Alec. Oh, yeah, because he's her darling.

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Alec, how did I forget that? Well, it's not impossible for you to forget.

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That's very normal, actually. And her name was Joyous. Yes, Joy.

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Oh, so cute. She was so fun. This book was so cute.

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It was. I was it was a little slow at the beginning, just because I was kind of like, what?

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really annoyed when one character like starts the book, like patrols engaged in love with wanting

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to marry someone else. And then like, I was like having conversations with that on Twitter. And

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I start this book, and then he's like, Oh, yeah, I'm engaged. I've been I've been doing my best to

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get her. I hired lawyers to go find her. I mean, and I was like, God fucking damn it. And then she

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jilted him. I was like, oh, so happy. That's how you got to do it. If I'm going to stick around,

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that's how you got to do it. And then and then she like, they run into this like fortune teller

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lady. She's like, Oh, yeah, you're going to meet your wife. Like real soon. You'll marry the next

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woman you meet. Yeah. He says. Yeah. And then what what does Joy do but stumbles right into his life?

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Well, it's more like she appears from the ether directly on top of him.

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I mean, that too, which is me, thinking to myself, like, surely I will meet the love of my life if I

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just like never leave my house and I sit in my room and read books all day. So apparently in my head,

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they're going to pull a joyous Macquarie and just like,

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fall on will it? Yeah. Yeah. Which isn't how things work. Um,

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which isn't how things work. Um, but I sure wish it was. So true. This took, like, grumpy sunshine

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to another level. Because he is so like, not here for it. And she's so Oh, no, I accidentally

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brought the statues to life. And we're having a party. Yeah, because he because then he's like,

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Yeah, I'm gonna marry you. Like, we're gonna get married. He calls her Scottish, which was adorable.

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Yeah. So they get married, like, pretty, pretty quickly into the book. And like that, like, it

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was a good intro. I wasn't like, it wasn't as like intriguing. And then they were like at his,

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like, estate. And then she like, before they can consummate, she feels guilty. She's like,

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I gotta tell him that I'm a witch. I can't good conscience. Like, I can't not tell him. So then

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she does. And he's just like, not prepared his mind. Like, he's already done the crazy and like,

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married someone that he doesn't know, like, this is very out of his comfort zone. And then to know

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that. And he basically just picked it because he is like, his pride was hurt that he was jilted,

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like, he was just like, like hubris got him a little bit. Um, and so he was just like, I can't

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handle that right now. So then he just storms out. And then he's like, pretty like, logical about it

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the next morning, which I liked. And then he proceeded like from the majority of the book to

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be like, please don't, like, don't do magic at all. Like, because then they had to go meet like

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Prinnie. And he's like, you like, we will get like hung, hanged. We will be dead if you like,

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accidentally conjure like something because like, witchcraft. Sure. Like he's superstitious, like

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you can't do that. Because like her magic is super uncontrollable. Like she'll sneeze and

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I love whatever you're thinking. That took me actually there were so I was like giggling,

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kicking my feet for most of the road trip element. I was so hooked. Because I think what also happened

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was I was right away. I was also I was working. So like, I was listening to like the first little

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bit while I was working in like my mind was like kind of half there. And then half just working.

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Because I that's where I listened to most of my audio books. And so I was able to go do a puzzle.

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For like the the best part of the book, in my opinion, which was like the middle

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where there was a snowstorm and a carriage and a lot of things happened. And it was just them,

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like just the two of them on the page, which I thought was really fun. And that poor Duke,

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milking cows and having to cook and bake and he just has no clue. And he's just like muttering

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to himself, like just so angry. So I got to do that when I was like my entire mind, it was just like

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in the story at that point. And I did say in my review, I was like, you know what, I wasn't really

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in the mood to read this. So like, I'm a huge mood reader. So I was like, honestly, like if I were

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to reread it, which I think I will next year, or probably like deep into winter, like this was more

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like a winter than a spooky book for me. Yeah. You know, so like I like I wanted to read it because

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I want to be able to talk about it. But I think I just need to be in the right. Again, I still it

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was a very good book. But I think I was just a little like at the beginning, I was like, I want

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to be reading Amores After Dark, because I did break that seal. And I read No Rest for the Wicked,

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because Twitter and people were talking about things. And I couldn't contain myself. So I had

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things in my mind. But yeah, that the the writing was just super fun. And then when they were alone,

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it was so well written. It was so like, charming, like, genuinely funny, and not in like an over

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the top Teehee, like, I'm gonna be so silly way, but genuinely funny way. I posted on my story like

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very early on, because a few chapters in I was like, I have been laughing like out loud consistently.

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It was just cracking me up. I mean, really, Frostbite has never been more funny. Like, yeah,

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hypothermia, like, because they get in the carrot, like they have to go, they're going to London

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and for the basically introducing her to Prinnie. I think it was Prinnie, I don't fucking know.

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Yeah. And then it's like, he's like, you can't use your magic, like around me around anyone,

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like you can't do it, you can't do it in private. He's there coming off the statues coming to life

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and Pan scaring his, what's her name? What's the maid? That main maid? Oh, I don't remember her

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name. Not her name, but like, what's the position? The housekeeper? Is that like that? Is that what

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you're looking at? Yeah, I think so. I don't know why the main maid, like stern older woman who runs

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the house. Yes. I don't know why that escaped, escaped me, but escape it did. We're back. So

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like a lecherous satyr came to life out of his bronze statue and was wreaking havoc on that.

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Yeah, I know. So he's a little irritated. They're in the carriage and then it gets super snowy,

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super quick. And she's like, can I do my magic to magic us out of here? Because they're coachmen,

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they're like, they've all left to go try to find where and in his thing, should hit the fan.

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And then he's like, no, and I'm like, bro, like, bro. And then he finally concedes. He's like,

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you can do your magic. And she just magic them into the middle of a snowstorm. She's doing her

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best, but it wasn't quite good enough. And then he's just so exasperated. And then she gets

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hypothermia. And then she starts like stripping. And then before you know it, she's completely

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naked, like having a conversation with herself. I was like, I could have stayed in that, that whole

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little aside, like for the rest of the book, it was so good. So they find the inn and the

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ins people magically disappear. So then it's just them for a few days. I think what really gets me

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is there were times where I was annoyed with him, but also I was like, I understand why you are the

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way you are, but I need you to pull it. Because you want him to just be happy and have a little

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magic in his life. I think what got me is that kind of a character. Because when I read the premise

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where he first is like, basically he wants her to just not use magic. I was annoyed.

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Because how very man of you to demand that she not do the thing that is a part of who she is.

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But Jill Barnett wrote it in a way where it wasn't overbearing and awful. Or even when it was,

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it was balanced out with enough humor and you understand why he is the way he is. Or where he's

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like, we will get killed. You cannot display your witchcraft in front of the prince regent. I need

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you to pull it together. And then she just decimated his entire perception of his life.

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Because his father raised him to be unfeeling, doesn't believe in love, all of that fun stuff.

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Yeah. So she just managed to take... Because I feel like it would not have been as satisfying

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if he just like, you know what, I love you, it's fine, you can do magic. I think I would have taken

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it and been like, okay, fine, you figured it out. But I appreciate that she was like, no, this is

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not just about her. I need you to reevaluate who you believe you are. And I think that's

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like, reevaluate who you believe you are. And your principles. Yeah. I think it took a little

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long for me. Just again, I wanted to be reading something else. So I mean, I still gave it like

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4.25, four and a half stars. It was still a very good book. But I was like, okay, we're a little...

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Because then it kind of meandered a few different points. And then by the end, I was like, what

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is this? Which was good. But then I was also like, what is happening? My thing with that is she just,

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I felt like she apologized too many times. And I felt bad for it. Because like, I mean, it wasn't

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like in even really a meek way. She was just kind of like, I'm sorry, I can't control it. Like,

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whatever. And I was like, girl, just do what you want. He'll follow. Hatchelstic was not a part of

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who she was, though. And I do feel like he got his comeuppance. He did. And that's why it worked.

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The ending. I know. So like, I was like teetering on like, definitely being annoyed at parts.

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Because I was just... It was like after the... When they were just them together. Because like,

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they had made like good progress. And then it was like kind of taking a few steps backward.

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But it needed to happen that way to have the end be what it was. So like, it knew what it needed

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to do. So again, it's like, I understand why he was annoyed. I understand why. Because then it made

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a very satisfying ending. Right. So, which again, yeah, I saw that you were crying. And I was like,

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I won't cry. Because the first like 80% of this book is like, this is so cute and fun. And then

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it just takes her. She's a witch. And she's like, hang on, let me read you, which also took me out.

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Because it's been a long time since I've seen the first episode of Bewitched. But it's a very

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similar... There's like a cute little very fast like, boy meets girl. Like they keep bumping into

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each other. They get married very quick. It's like the 50s or 60s. I think it's the 50s. Like,

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they get married. And then on their wedding night, she's like, I'm a witch. And he doesn't believe

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her. And she has to... Again, it's been a long time since I've seen it. But she like moves things

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around. And I'm pretty sure she picks like levitates the chair he's sitting in. Like, I read

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that and was like, oh, you mean like in Bewitched where she levitates the chair he's sitting? Like,

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I think that was like a straight up reference to it. So was Bewitched a show? Yeah. Because did they

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remake it with Will Ferrell? I think they made a movie of it. Yeah. So I saw the movie. That's not

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good. Yeah, because the whole thing was about her like nose like wiggling. Yeah. She wiggles her nose

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with him. That's which was also a little bit in the book. But her not like wiggling her nose,

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but like scrunching her nose. Yeah. Maybe that's... Ignore the movie. That's not... Don't. But the

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the show is excellent. Anyway, so you're giggling. You're Teehee-oo-ooing. You're having a great time.

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And then? And then his brother appears. And then you're crying. I was like, what do you mean?

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I was like, why am I emotionally dead? And, and, and then he tells the story. And then he does the

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thing where like people are making him sweep and he's like, what's the Tom Jones thing? Yeah,

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whatever that was. He doesn't realize that everyone's laughing at him and not with him.

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And it's giving Flowers for Algernon. Did you read that? No. Flowers for Algernon is a short story.

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Have you read that? No. Listen, Flowers for Algernon is a short story that emotionally

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devastated me. I did read Scarlet Ibis, which also emotionally devastated me. Well, I don't

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know that one. So you got, you got me there. You're good there. It also deals with a

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sibling relationship and it's a whole thing. So this one isn't a sibling. It's devastating.

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So it's about... Algernon is a lab mouse. Oh, hell no. You don't really... It's not about him.

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It's about... So Algernon is a lab mouse. He's undergone surgery to make him more intelligent.

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The story is told, it's a series of progress reports, according to Wikipedia, because I had

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to revisit. He's the first human subject for this to make him more intelligent. So he starts out the

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book. It's unclear, but like intellectually disabled, right? Like it's not very well written.

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It's like there's a lot of spelling errors, things like that. So this is a person, not the mouse?

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Yeah, it's a person. Algernon is like, he talks about Algernon. Okay. Okay. Because they do it to

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the mouse and they do it to him, the first human subject. And you see him get more and more

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intelligent as the progress reports progress. And he's like taking care of Algernon. And then

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Algernon, I think he gets worse and he dies. And so it becomes very apparent that it is not a permanent

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thing. And so you get to about halfway through and he is fully aware. He's like, this isn't going to

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last. Like, I don't want to watch myself regress back to where I began. And he does over the course

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of the rest of the progress reports, he regresses more and more. And he's like devastatingly aware

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of it until he isn't because he's regressed so far. And then Algernon dies and then it stops.

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And it's implied that he's died also. And in it, he at the beginning talks about, I don't know if

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it's like other students or what, but basically it's a very similar, like he thinks he's very

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friendly with all of these people and that they're like laughing and joking with him. And as he

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becomes more intelligent or like, you know, improves, he realizes that they were actually

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laughing at him and not with him. And then as he regresses, he returns back to that, like not

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realizing when people are making fun of him. So this was a devastating read for middle school me.

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It would be a devastating read now, I guarantee it, because you read it and you're like, oh,

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and so that was the energy it was giving when he's talking about like his friends

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who want him to like show how well he does his job. And then you're just crying.

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I was crying. That is accurate. Oh my gosh. No, but I did read of Mice and Men, which is another mouse.

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And that one also hurt. Oh, God. Yeah, I was like, so devastated, too. I know. I know,

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because it's basically the Duke. They had had a second son, like I think when the hero was like

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three and he didn't know about it. And he was intellectually disabled. And you don't get much

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information besides that. And then he was like sent away to live with some person named Robbie.

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I don't quite know who Robbie is, but he had a good life like he is a fisherman or something.

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Oh, yeah. Like he enjoyed like he loved Robbie. Like he was raised. Yeah. At least with love.

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Like, thankfully, it was at least. Yeah. I mean, yes. I mean, he had a better life with Robbie than

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he would have had with the fucking Duke, whatever. But yeah. So the hero didn't know. There were like

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no hints, no clues that this was going to happen. So then you just got to knock on the door and she's

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00:34:55,560 --> 00:35:00,280
she answers and she's like, hello. And they're like, hey, is the Duke here? Because he's now the

386
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guardian of this ward, this ward. And because the former guardian had passed away. And then I'm like,

387
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:18,200
what the hell? And then you think like she does. Oh, we have a child entering the mix. Yeah. Which

388
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:23,720
is which is weird, because I literally just read a Megan Frampton arc where he thinks his guardian

389
00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:27,240
that he just becomes a guardian. He thinks his ward is a child and she's like 70.

390
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:37,480
And so like I was like flashback and the their genetic, they genetically have gray hair.

391
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:45,880
And so once the once he took his hood off or hat or whatever off and then everyone was in the room,

392
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:54,120
they realized that he was his brother. And then the Duke kind of that was like the final shift.

393
00:35:54,120 --> 00:36:00,440
And he's just so sweet. And yeah, just wants to be loved. And he wants people to think that he's

394
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:07,640
smart and like him. And he's Yeah, he's just so lovely. And people yell at him and make fun of

395
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:13,720
him. I know. So then the frickin housekeeper she gets boosted because nasty ass evil wench.

396
00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:19,080
What really? So I Oh, you know what I did down the download the ebook briefly,

397
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:25,640
because my so my copy of bewitching, I got it on like thrift books or something, I think. And it

398
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:34,920
turns out it's an arc. It's an arc from 1993. Oh my god. So I'm like, okay, but it means there

399
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,360
were a couple like little grammatical errors and things as I was reading that I'm like, I assume

400
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:46,760
that got corrected. But that scene for some reason, it cut from like she was yelling at him and joy

401
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:53,640
was kind of stuck in the back of the crowd. And then I don't remember if I saw I think I did,

402
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:59,560
Alex showed up and he was like, but then it cut like kind of in the middle of while he was talking

403
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:04,440
and all of a sudden it jumped to like her comforting. Yeah, what's the brother's name?

404
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:11,000
Um, it's like, is it Kevin or something? Why is that in my head? I don't know why I forgot it. I

405
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:17,800
had forgotten it. Steven. Steven. I was thinking Evan. I don't know. Steven. Yeah, because then

406
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:22,200
did you think that he didn't like throw her out? Well, I mean, I found out late because they

407
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:28,840
reference it later that she was leaving but I so she does the like get away you're nothing but an

408
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:33,400
animal or beast you belong in an asylum look at you you don't belong here. Steven began to

409
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:40,400
saw I didn't mean to I would have fixed it. And then it cuts to she took the pieces. Mrs. Watt

410
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,760
Leah shouted at you before hasn't she and like her talking about it. So I actually didn't even

411
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:50,200
get to the part where Alex stepped in. So I'm like, how did I get there? Like what happened? So I

412
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,120
finished the I just assumed there was like something missing. And there was so I went back later.

413
00:37:54,120 --> 00:38:02,360
And it was like, hang on, how did we get? I look. Well, thankfully, that that it got the first he

414
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:08,760
was on so bad, like not badly. He's shocked. But like, because you're like, oh, like, does he not?

415
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:14,360
Like, is he going to respond poorly? Yeah. Right. And then you find out he's just so betrayed that

416
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:20,360
his parents do something like this. Oh, yeah, because he kind of family. I guess he means he

417
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:25,640
just goes on rides horses. Okay. Yeah. Well, because he grew up trying to impress his father

418
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:32,040
in his shadow, trying to model and live being perfect. And like he because he thought that if

419
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:37,480
he would be like his father, his father would love him. And so I think it was just like,

420
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:44,200
obviously, therapy would have provided him sure, sure many outlets. But from what we saw, he was

421
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:48,840
just really reckoning with like, well, if I was trying to be like my father, my father could do

422
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:55,080
this. And like, I'm basing all of my preconceived notions on what I have conceived from my father.

423
00:38:55,080 --> 00:39:03,080
Like what? Who am I? Am I not a good person? Like just dismantling all of those things. Like

424
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:10,200
his entire sense of self in the world. Yeah. Yeah. And also now he has this brother to be with.

425
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:19,000
And there was a great job. But you but I cry. Oh, I wept. And then he broke himself in front of it.

426
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:30,760
And at child, I was like, OK, I was like, he cannot die. Oh, yeah. But I was like, I don't know.

427
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:36,920
I was like, I, I don't know, because to bring back the dog death, I had just read a book where I was

428
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:44,600
like, the dog can't die. It did on the page. And I was like, unacceptable. And so I was like,

429
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:49,880
I trust no one right now. I was like, oh, my God. And then he was like, OK, what is that?

430
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:55,880
Oh, man. Because then he was like, Joy, you need to come with me. And she was like, what? He's like,

431
00:39:55,880 --> 00:40:00,280
I need to use your magic now, because like he hadn't approved of it. There was times when like

432
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:04,760
when they'd be having sex, she'd like conjure up like pink roses. That was like, he's like, I

433
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:09,240
want to go for it. But he but he like admitted that when he thought that she she was like,

434
00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:12,600
tell the truth. And he didn't know he was under kind of like a truth spell. So then

435
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:18,760
this was like the first time he like actively after the snowstorm fiasco was like, please do

436
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:24,040
your magic. And she's like, I can't. Like I my magic is not strong enough for that. And he was

437
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:29,560
just devastated. Like that was like too much for him. It was too much for me. And I was like, oh,

438
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:34,680
my God, it was too much for all of us. It was too much. All of this was too much. I was crying a

439
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:40,760
whole way through. Yeah. Yeah. Stephen was also crying, which is like the worst possible thing

440
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:51,640
in the world. And then you have the drama, the other witch being like, yeah, it's you or Stephen.

441
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:56,520
And obviously, she's going to choose Stephen. Yeah. Well, yeah, I was like, I was like, how do

442
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:01,880
we get here? Like, what do you mean she has to leave? Because it was basically like it was like

443
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:08,440
it was like, yeah, because the way it was framed, which again, like I didn't see coming was that

444
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:14,600
he didn't learn how to love like in the time frame that the her like, Aunt Witch or whoever

445
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:19,160
that witch was. I think that was that was like in the beginning. And it was kind of like here there.

446
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:26,920
And she was like, well, he hasn't learned to love you. And like how to love it was giving the last

447
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:35,000
pedal has fallen. Yeah. And it did. And so she's like, OK, well, then so she just disappears

448
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:39,160
because basically the witch is like, I will save Stephen, like I have enough power to do that.

449
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:46,920
But he does like Alec doesn't desert like you can't be with him because you you're put into his life.

450
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:54,280
Try to like show him love and he just isn't receptive. And I was like, well, that's cruel.

451
00:41:54,280 --> 00:42:00,440
That hurt a little bit. I was like, OK, yeah, but I love seeing that slap me in the face.

452
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:05,800
Yeah, but I love seeing that slap me in the face. Why don't you? Yeah. Well, because then it all it

453
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:13,400
was very satisfying. Oh, yeah. To see him in pain, watching him run through the streets and then like

454
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,880
beg that old woman to bring his wife back only for her to be like, I don't know what you're talking

455
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:27,880
about and disappear. It's giving in the like Samara Parish, the second one, I think, when he has his

456
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:33,480
like pristine reputation and the entire book, he's like hell bent on like keeping his reputation.

457
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:38,520
And then at the end, he just goes in, does whatever the hell he would like to ruin it.

458
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:44,760
It goes absolutely Sam. Yeah. And like it felt like that. What if I ride through Hyde Park, make it?

459
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,480
And so this was a little bit different because he wasn't actively trying to ruin his reputation.

460
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:56,040
He was just going through it. He just like did not. That was it wasn't like I'm going to make a

461
00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:01,400
gesture of ruining my reputation. No, it wasn't a gesture. I don't care. It was I am losing my mind.

462
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,880
Somebody chase that old woman down right now. I don't care who sees me. I need to get on my knees

463
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:14,360
and bring my wife back because I love her so much. And then he suffered for like a month or so or

464
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:23,560
something. Yeah. It was a long time. And and then obviously obsessed with her and with her hair and

465
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:29,880
Scott, I know the hair and the calling her Scottish. There there was I can't remember what

466
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:34,440
it was because again, I was doing the audiobook, but one like something that he said in the cabin,

467
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:41,080
I was like, oh, my God, it was just so cute and sweet. And then, yeah. And then when he finds her.

468
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,040
It was just very wholesome. It was so wholesome. Mm hmm.

469
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:57,000
Yeah, I know that Apple. Yeah, we're not. I again, don't know. I was still crying like I was already

470
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:01,960
crying. And then it was like, what if I then give you an image of his little magical children like

471
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:08,360
practicing their magic on him? They're like a joding father. And then five magical children

472
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:15,480
and one child who they all love equal is outwitting the children. Iconic of him.

473
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:20,440
And his little daughter's like levitating his chair. And he's like, wow, well done. I'm so proud

474
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:25,320
of you. And then I'm crying. Well, yeah, because earlier when they were going to consummate, he was

475
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:30,760
like, like when she she told him that she was a witch, we came back the next day. He's like,

476
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:35,960
honestly, that's fine. That's OK. Just don't do magic. He was so he's like, honestly, like,

477
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:40,600
you're hot. We're in this together. Like, we're all in this together. Clap, clap, clap.

478
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:45,880
And then he and then she was like, well, you do know that it can be like it's genetic.

479
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:50,600
Like my children could inherit it like it's not 100 percent. But I did have a mortal parent and I

480
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:55,000
am a witch, not a good one, but I am a witch. And he's like, well, that changes the game.

481
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,920
And then he just leaves to talk to his solicitor and you're like, huh? And it's a whole thing.

482
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:05,080
So then seeing an epilogue, him embracing obviously like this romance like you thought he would. But

483
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:10,440
to see it on the page was another kind of pain. And then Stephen is reading a book to one of them.

484
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:15,240
Stephen with the kid. I was like making sure that they were going to wrap it. Oh, God, it was just.

485
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:23,640
It was chicken soup for the soul. But also. Oh, my God. Also that familiar. What is that? Yeah.

486
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:28,840
A ferret. No, it's something. I thought it was something else. A weasel.

487
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:34,600
It's like a weasel ferret thing. It's like a weasel ferret thing. It just it confirmed.

488
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:41,960
It confirmed me not wanting one. I mean, I never did. So that wasn't ever an issue. I mean, that's

489
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:47,640
very true. But I was like, yeah, that's because well, they have an ermine in a tessadere. And then

490
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:53,080
also I was like, I don't want an ermine. An ermine weasel.

491
00:45:53,080 --> 00:46:00,280
Oh, well, you were correct. Ermine. They don't have a good rep in books. So sorry to the ermines

492
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:06,440
out there. You kind of. Well, but then the proposition you got the weasel. I thought it was a

493
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:11,640
ferret. I thought it was a weasel because weasels are the ones that hunt. Are they ferrets? I don't

494
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:18,840
know. I know mongoose and snakes. I don't know. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.

495
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:26,600
I feel like it was a weasel, but it could have been a ferret. What's the difference? I don't know.

496
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,960
I don't. Is there one? Who knows? And there had to have been one in Lisa Klevis one.

497
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:35,240
Maybe. I think there was a ferret there. Yeah. Yeah. That ferret that loves

498
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:42,040
the governess. Yeah. Catherine Marks. Catherine. Yeah. And that ferret loves her

499
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:48,440
garters so much. Oh, yeah. So this guy, he loved hair and he just ate the hair off this.

500
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:55,320
That poor footman. He just had bald spots and he literally just like ate his cue off.

501
00:46:55,320 --> 00:47:02,360
I respect that he was so chill about it too. I know. Because that, again, reaffirms how good

502
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:08,040
of a person that she was that he was willing to do that for her. Again, he was also just a good

503
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:14,200
person who let an ermine weasel eat his hair. And then he got on the shoulder of a maid and started

504
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:21,400
eating her hair. And then he woke up, like woke up next to the ermine weasel. And it was like,

505
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,560
every time I say ermine weasel, it's like I'm like first and last naming this animal.

506
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:37,320
And he's like, I got to check my hair because I don't want to be bald from it. So it was funny.

507
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:44,920
But God, I still, the hypothermia scene, when she just started taking off her clothes.

508
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:50,040
And then he's like, what are you doing? The one that got me was really and truly

509
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,800
the sneezing everything that she was thinking. Yeah. What was he even thinking about? The first

510
00:47:53,800 --> 00:48:00,040
time it was in the cabin. And she's thinking about the dastardly duke. Which was also iconic of her.

511
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:04,920
Didn't she sneeze up like a riding crop or something? Yeah. He was holding, yeah,

512
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:12,520
because she was like turned on. Hello. After he was like milking a cow and getting milk in his face.

513
00:48:13,240 --> 00:48:19,720
Just such a silly goofy time. It's a movie that I want to watch. Honestly, yes, that is so true.

514
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:29,160
I haven't seen the best reviews for book two, which is called dreaming. It's the Earl because

515
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:36,040
there's that one I have to assume deals with alcoholism. That's like historical romance.

516
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:46,920
Again, the proposition, the other ones. And so he has a Viscount and an Earl are like his two best

517
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:54,040
friends. Who I loved, by the way. Yeah. They're like, I mean the Viscount. I assume it was in the

518
00:48:54,040 --> 00:49:02,520
audiobook. Chapter 13 is omitted because it was unlucky. That was hilarious. Because for a second

519
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:07,240
I was like, oh no, like, is this something about me having an art? No. At the request of Neil

520
00:49:07,240 --> 00:49:13,880
Viscount Seymour, Chapter 13 has been omitted. Bad luck, you know. That's the type of humor I want.

521
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:19,560
Yeah. That's giving India Holton. Yes. Or India Holton's giving Jill Barnett. Yeah. All of the

522
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:25,320
above. And it's excellent. Yeah. So he has the two friends and one of his friends is an Earl who

523
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:35,080
is assumed to be an alcoholic. Basically, when he has alcohol in his system, he is not very nice.

524
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,520
He is lecherous. He is not fun to be around. But then the Duke is like, but when he doesn't...

525
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:44,120
And he has alcohol in his system a lot. At least in this book by the time we meet him. Yeah.

526
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:48,840
And then when he doesn't, he is a lovely person. And then he shows like who he is at the end.

527
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:53,880
And I'm happy he wasn't like, he didn't do anything like a villainous. I was scared a little bit.

528
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:59,080
Yeah, he was a little bit of a dick. Yeah. I was like scared that it was going to be like a Sebastian

529
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:04,760
St. Vincent situation where he was going to like do something egregious, but he did not. So the

530
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,040
second book, which was written like, I think many years after this one, because it's almost like in

531
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:12,840
the nineties and that was in the two thousands. Unless it was just that edition. So don't quote

532
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:22,440
me on that. It's his book because there's a woman in... Letitia. Yeah. Letitia, who is tormenting

533
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:26,280
him because she's just like in love with him. And like they kind of like make her the butt of the

534
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:33,480
joke. And so then she's his heroine, which that intrigues me. But then I have just seen a lot of

535
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:38,760
reviews being like, he is just really mean to her, which makes me sad. And they're like, he doesn't

536
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:43,480
have to win her. And so I'm like, I don't... Again, those are just like a few reviews. It doesn't

537
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:49,720
have like too many because it's older. So I'm like contemplating. They did say that

538
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:59,000
Bewitching was the better book, but the second one, Dreaming, was funnier. And I'm like, it was

539
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:05,080
funnier, you say, because this was funny. That's fairly impressive. Yeah. I was like, okay, so

540
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:11,880
that's intriguing to me. Because if I can laugh through the pain, we can maybe make it work. So

541
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:20,440
who knows? I'm tempted, probably not this season, but maybe if I reread it and I have a wild

542
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:30,440
urge to do it, I will. I just don't want to be tarnished. I read the second in the Whitney,

543
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:36,200
My Love, because I loved that guy. And then he was just horrible. And I was like, so if I went to

544
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:41,320
Reddit, I could have just loved him unconditionally. And now there are conditions. I mean, but do you

545
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:46,040
really like his character? No. So this one, I did not really like him. It could only really get better.

546
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:51,000
Yeah. I thought he was funny. I mean, I also recognized that he was a dick when he drank. But

547
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:55,000
by the end, he had stopped, or at least not that he had stopped, but there were a lot of scenes where

548
00:51:55,000 --> 00:52:01,880
he was not drunk. And he was very charming. And they also befriended Steven and were going around

549
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:08,920
with them. And I'm wondering if there's magic in that book, if there's any paranormal elements.

550
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:15,160
I have to assume not, but I know. So I'm kind of like, what's the vibe? So again,

551
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:24,360
curiosity may get this cat. Who knows? Maybe. I would love that. I know. So that poor woman.

552
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:31,160
I mean, relatable. She's a foolish one. Love her. Love her queen. She was doing her best.

553
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:38,120
She was. And Bo Brummel was yelling at her. And Joy was like, absolutely not. I'm going to magically

554
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:45,720
silence that man, as she should. Yeah, his friends were a really fun addition. Because they, I mean,

555
00:52:45,720 --> 00:52:51,160
they were like witness to like him getting the, you're going to marry the first woman that you

556
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:57,880
see. And they're kind of like, what? But they went with it as good friends do. That man went

557
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:04,200
through it. He reminds me of like, there were so many times where I imagined him just like,

558
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:10,360
with a buffering symbol. You know, the like little turn it like just buffering. Yeah. Just

559
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:16,200
what is happening? What it, why is the scene where he gets the letter where he gets jilted

560
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:21,720
and he just like tears at it and then rips it up in tiny pieces and puts it back on the tray and

561
00:53:21,720 --> 00:53:26,280
it's like no response and then proceeds to like, I'm pretty sure play the rest of his game of cards

562
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:32,760
before finally being like, I am no longer betrothed. Because he was just giving his whole speech

563
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:40,360
about how it was such a wise decision to get the team of lawyers to go get him a wife that was like

564
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:49,000
the most advantageous and he was so just stuffy about it. And I was like, that's what needs to

565
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:55,800
happen. Well, because I was like, I was kind of always waiting again, which maybe a reread will

566
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:59,080
be even better because I was kind of always waiting for the other shoe to drop. I was waiting for him

567
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:05,960
to do something like truly like really bad. And he never did. I mean, there was one time when he,

568
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:10,600
I mean, I guess there are a few like one time she had like had like a lovely dinner, like set for

569
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:16,120
him and then he snapped at her. And I mean, again, he was a dick about it. But like it wasn't,

570
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:20,920
it's never egregious. It's not like, oh, why would you say that? Like you heard her feelings,

571
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:26,760
but it's not irredeemable. Yeah. So like I was so if it feels like there's another shoe that's

572
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:30,600
going to drop there, I don't feel like I didn't feel like there really was one. But I was scared

573
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,960
because you had also said that there was like, what did you mean when you said that there was

574
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:39,400
something that I didn't know how you were going to respond to Steven. Steven. Oh, yeah. That whole

575
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:45,720
little plot line that worked. It that I really enjoyed that. Because I was like, what was like,

576
00:54:45,720 --> 00:54:51,480
what's going to happen? I was like, does he have a mistress? Like, how is there this much of the

577
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:55,160
book left? Like, they seem like they're in a really good place. Is there a third act break?

578
00:54:55,160 --> 00:55:01,080
And there was but not in the lake. Yeah. It wasn't just like, oh, no, it's a miscommunication. It was

579
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:07,320
like, oh, his disabled brother that he didn't even know about that he now has come to love very

580
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:15,160
deeply has just been run over when saving a child and he's in critical, critical agony and his

581
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:19,720
lungs are filling up and he's not going to make it through the night. And so he snapped at his wife.

582
00:55:19,720 --> 00:55:23,320
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I was on the break. I was on the air. I was like,

583
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:29,160
you're stressed, but it's not like, oh, this was a miscommunication. It was like, this man is

584
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:35,640
devastated and said something that he shouldn't have. But and I liked the Steven inclusion

585
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:43,400
because it really added a layer to many characters. Like they like seeing them respond to the

586
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:52,920
situation was really nice. Like, I also enjoyed any Duchess will do by Tessa Dare. I don't know if

587
00:55:52,920 --> 00:56:01,000
you've read that one, but her sister has developmental delay. And basically, that's kind

588
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:08,360
of like her tie to her hometown is that she needs to protect her sister because her parents are

589
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:14,920
like, icky. And then once Griff, like she's like very worried for the hero to like meet her and

590
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:20,840
like judge her. But he's like, great. And that was very charming. And so like, I feel like they're

591
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:26,440
like I've read it like a few different books. And this one I really enjoyed. Same thing with the

592
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:33,160
test there. There's Elizabeth White one that I was like, that's horrible. Which it wasn't the

593
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,120
character was like what happened to the character. And then it was like very dramatic. And I was like,

594
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:41,720
I cannot handle that because if you don't know, I have a sister with Down syndrome listeners,

595
00:56:41,720 --> 00:56:48,760
if you don't know. So it can be like a very like, something for me. Yeah. Yeah. And I realized that

596
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:55,320
with the Elizabeth White one. But this one I felt was like very good. So yeah, I really liked it.

597
00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:00,440
And I really I think I already talked about it. But I will reiterate, I just really love that

598
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:07,320
it wasn't like and the power of love redeemed him. Yeah, he actually had to reevaluate his entire,

599
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:15,320
like every structure of life and sense it like he was completely shaken and his identity had to be

600
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:24,600
rebuilt. And it's like, again, I don't always love it when characters have to like change who they

601
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:31,000
are. But in this case, it was like reckoning with things that weren't great, but he'd never changed

602
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:39,800
like, because you could see him have that soft underbelly. It was just protected. Very, I mean,

603
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:47,720
it was him like, releasing years of like daddy issues, basically. And major social structures

604
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:52,840
that were not benefiting him in the slightest. Well, and also you add to that, like, it wasn't

605
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:57,320
just he had to learn how to love joy, like he learned how to love this brother that he didn't.

606
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:02,120
I mean, it wasn't like he did really learn how to but there was kind of that adjustment period of

607
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:06,840
like, I don't know what to do about this. Well, and seeing people mistreat and being kind of like,

608
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:13,720
people suck. Yeah, he was kind of just like, I can't like, like the Duke is like, very close

609
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:21,800
to one of the highest, like, honors or whatever, no titles in the land. And he was so shitty. And

610
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:27,240
he like did not. He like he was so bad. And so I think like, viewing that and then viewing the

611
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:32,520
people in the story of them making fun of him. And then when he saw it again, he's kind of just

612
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:40,440
like, man, people suck. So that can also like take a hit. I was like, Oh, God. Yeah. So it reminds me

613
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:45,800
structurally of Lord of scoundrels, actually a lot because there's a lot of kind of parallel, like,

614
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:50,520
obviously, the characters are not the same even a little bit. So their arcs are very different. But

615
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:57,880
that idea of like, you need this, like you need to heal your inner child. Yeah. And you need to

616
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:02,520
like work that out on your own. And it's not something that just like, oh, I fell in love. And

617
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:08,520
now everything is magically fixed. And so bringing that other in his case, Dane's case, the child,

618
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:15,800
and Alex case, his brother to be like, you're you are not okay. And you need to deal with that

619
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:21,880
before you can like love this other person. Yeah, which I like that. Speaking of magically fixing,

620
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:28,040
in the snowstorm period, when they're at the end, he's like, oh, she's put a she's put a love spell

621
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:33,080
on me. That's why I feel all of these things for her. So funny. Like he is just saying he's like,

622
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:37,560
oh, everything makes sense. Because like that, he could understand, like that it made so much sense

623
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:43,000
to me. He's like, okay, she is hexed me. I understand now it makes so much sense. I'll have

624
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:47,800
peace when she takes it away. So he's like, hey, you've bewitched me, you got to take it back. And

625
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:53,080
she's like, okay, fine. It's gone. Babidi babidi boo. It's gone. And she knows he hasn't she hasn't

626
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:57,320
done anything like she doesn't have the power to do that. And so then he's like, are you sure you

627
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,760
took it away? Because I'm still kind of like feeling these like weird love things towards you.

628
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:04,520
And she's like, you're feeling love things towards you say like, well, that's interesting. Like I

629
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:09,880
promise I took it away. And so it's like, she knows that he loves her like, at that point, which like,

630
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,880
made it better because then she was like, he's just not like realizing he's just not accepting it.

631
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:18,920
Which like, I really loved and it was just funny watching him try to like rationalize his thoughts.

632
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:26,760
The way that her having put a love spell on him is more immediately believable. Yeah, and just him

633
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:34,360
having feelings. Deep feelings. Yeah. He's like, no, that can't be it. It's gotta be the magic.

634
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:41,560
Yeah. And it was just so interesting, again, like how her magic never was able to fix like,

635
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:46,840
the truly bad things or like, she couldn't bewitch him into falling in love. She couldn't really,

636
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:51,160
I mean, she kind of like got them to the vicinity of the inn, but it's still they were like on a lake

637
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:55,480
or like a body of water. So then she falls in and that's how she gets to know because the inn

638
01:00:55,480 --> 01:01:02,200
wasn't real. No, she had to like visualize it. And then they like get I, I envisioned it is like,

639
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:07,160
she got them kind of somewhere close to an inn. But when they leave the inn disappears. It's implied

640
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:15,000
that. Oh, yeah, because the people that what's her name, the aunt is all of the. She's I think

641
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:19,960
it's her and her familiar are the dwarf and the giant. She created the inn. That's why they

642
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:27,800
vanish. They are the cook and the butler. They kind of vanish at the end and they're not really

643
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:33,080
sure why. I caught that they vanished, but I was like, I don't know. No, it's because. And

644
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:37,320
first, he was like, oh, you know, when he goes, oh, the old woman, of course. And I was like, what

645
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:42,680
old woman? What are we? And it took me a minute. Like it took me a while to think back. But then

646
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:46,680
they they kind of I don't think they were like really explicitly explain it, but it's kind of

647
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:50,920
a. That makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Well, because they were I remember the those things. He was

648
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:55,080
like, oh, I'm happy I wasn't making that up because like I swear there was like people there. Yeah.

649
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:59,240
And then they. And then as they ride away from the inn, it's like mentioned that the inn just

650
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:06,360
disappears into the. Oh, see, I just accepted it. I mean, I was like, so magical. I didn't realize

651
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:13,160
until the end that both of those pair, I assume it was her and the familiar, because I don't know

652
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:19,320
how she could be two people at once, but it was both of them and then both the cook and the

653
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:24,280
butler. That makes a lot of sense. I don't think there was anybody else, but I think it was those

654
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:29,800
two. Well, that makes more sense because I was like he was really going to die, too,

655
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,360
because she had he just like redressed her after she'd like

656
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:40,840
been submerged in the freezing cold water. And then she was like in his he's like holding her.

657
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:45,240
And then she like pops up and he's like, well, she's fine. That's great. And then she starts

658
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,920
like disrobing and then she's naked and like having the conversations. And it's like, oh,

659
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,880
she's delirious. This is bad. And she's like, it's burnt. And then she's like, oh,

660
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:55,960
she's delirious. This is bad. And she's like, it's burning. I'm like, well, that is that would be

661
01:02:55,960 --> 01:03:03,560
hypothermia. He's like, she's not shivering. That seems concerning to me. The implication was that

662
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:09,400
the aunt never went to America. This was all set up and she was watching over them. That makes more

663
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:16,840
sense at the end than to. Yeah. OK. She knew she was she was there. OK. Following the process.

664
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:22,200
She's even worse at magic than I was given her credit for. She really just fucked them over

665
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:30,520
so well in that snowstorm. She just yes, no storm on top of a body of water and ice.

666
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:35,640
She magic them there and he's like, what do you mean? And then she couldn't fix

667
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:44,840
Steven. She couldn't like save him. And obviously, the aunt's magic was able to do it.

668
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:50,760
But like she's like, I wonder, like in her years, if she ever got better as a witch. I don't know.

669
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:52,200
I don't know.

670
01:03:55,160 --> 01:04:01,400
Curious. I mean, her kids magic seemed to be. Yeah. Well, I mean, she could do small ish things.

671
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:07,080
It's probably just a confidence thing, too. Yeah. And they talk about like, her focus is a big

672
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:15,000
issue. Yeah. She got ADHD or something. Mm hmm. Too magical. Too much going on. Can't focus.

673
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:27,320
No. What a good book. Honestly, yeah. Might be a new favorite. I know. Well, I saw someone

674
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:31,240
before this that they reread it and like I didn't get it until I got it.

675
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:36,680
And I'm like, yeah, I'll definitely reread because again, it's kind of like it's so soothing to

676
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,640
reread to me because you know what's going to happen. You know how things are going to turn out

677
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:44,360
because then you can focus on other things. You can focus on like more than nuance and everything.

678
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:48,760
Because I definitely get very scared when I'm reading new books.

679
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:52,440
So you never know what's going to happen. And so now I can just be like, OK, I know.

680
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,760
I'm going to go back and revisit the spells she would make up. Those crack me up.

681
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:03,400
I'm like, honestly, that's the most impressive part of this because I cannot make up rhymes

682
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:07,960
on the spot to save my life. My brother can do it. He like changes the lyrics to songs

683
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:11,400
and makes them silly, but they always rhyme. And that's always impressed me so much because I'm

684
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:17,960
like, I can't. I can. I did that with my brother when we were younger to the Shrek soundtrack.

685
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:22,920
We'd be like taking road trips with our family and then we'd have like All Star on and it would

686
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:28,760
just be like, hey, now I want to go to McDonald's. Oh, my God. Get the milkshake and fries like that

687
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:33,560
kind of stuff, because we annoy our parents into doing that. But that's my extent.

688
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:38,120
But yeah, well, I mean, I just read the Elizabeth. No, Theresa Madeiros,

689
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:43,320
A Breath of Magic, and she is a Puritan witch.

690
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:48,360
And so that one, again, you should read that. It was fucking fun.

691
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:57,160
She like a magics herself into 1996. And there was like the whole like trying to convince him

692
01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:01,400
that she's a witch. And he's just like, no, like, well, because I'll talk about more in our episode.

693
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:06,440
But there's like he has reasons to think she's like scamming him, obviously, because it's 1996.

694
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:11,320
And he's like, you're not like, what do you mean? Obviously, because it's 1996.

695
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:19,560
And it's just so funny reading a historical book that's now historical because it's 1996.

696
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:26,760
But then just the Puritan time. It was really funny. So like seeing that, like how Magic was

697
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:32,280
treated there and how it was treated here was really fun. Because then in the in the next book,

698
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:37,800
it's when she goes back, she's the daughter of the two of them. And then she goes back in time,

699
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:44,200
it's like the 1200s. And she gets a hot night. And it's great. That one was that one was even

700
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:48,760
better than book one, because the hero in book one was a little bit like hot and cold. Yes, no, but

701
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:59,480
like the night. He's wrong. And he's right. He was hot. That makes me think of that movie.

702
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:09,320
One with Hugh Jackman and Meg Ryan. Oh, yeah. I'm not going to remember the name. But that one.

703
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:16,360
Oh, God, it's right. Tip of my. Yeah, I'm not even trying because I'm not going to think of it.

704
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:21,080
He as a side note, I was flipping through this book and I feel the need to bring up number one,

705
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:29,000
all the funny little section titles, which I love. Bring that back. Like the Once Upon a Time,

706
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:36,840
the magic, the Mayhem. Yeah, there's like the heartbreak change. Yeah, all of that delightful.

707
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:43,000
Second of all, in the sex scene where she's like, oh, thanks for like shrinking it and making it fit.

708
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:49,080
It was great. Can you shrink it a little bit? And he's like.

709
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:54,840
I was like the first time because he was like still inside her. It was like after they both

710
01:07:54,840 --> 01:08:00,040
finished. And then she's like, oh, wow, that's so nice. Like, that's so nice of you. He's like,

711
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:04,520
what? He's like, oh, you just shrunk it a little bit. Oh, God, that was great. The Hugh Jackman

712
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:11,800
movie was Kate and Leopold. Oh, thank you. And then there's the night before Christmas or something

713
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:17,800
with Vanessa Hudgens. I never watched that. Oh, I love it. That one. The night comes to the 21st

714
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:25,560
century. That's fun. I need more time travel books because I ate it up. It was so good. It was

715
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:32,360
phenomenal and also more magic, more witches. I just need it all. So that's my plea. That's my

716
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:37,320
call to the universe. I would love more historical paranormal. There are the problems. There are some

717
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:42,680
like this one that are really excellent, but there are quite a few where I'm like, yeah, like,

718
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:49,720
that's just like the Teresa. Like the Teresa Medeiros were good, but they weren't great.

719
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:56,040
I will say the animal death was really the baggage of book two. Spoiler alert, which I think you

720
01:08:56,040 --> 01:09:01,560
should be spoiled on that just so you know what you're going through. Book one was interesting

721
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:06,680
because it's like different kind of magic. And then the other one, it didn't. It was like it

722
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:12,200
took place in like May, like spring, which I was like, why? So the vibes are kind of a little off.

723
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:18,520
But that one, I was close to giving a five stars. It was very good. But it was like different. And

724
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:26,840
the series was unfinished. So there were like some things I was like, I want more. But yeah,

725
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:31,400
well, I mean, she's just a phenomenal. I wish she had written more because I mean, her other

726
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:41,000
paranormal, nothing to do with magic, but the vampire ones are so fucking good. Like, honestly,

727
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:44,520
like I'm so close to just buying her entire backlist because she only has two audiobooks,

728
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:48,520
which I did listen to. Those were like my least favorite, which is obviously going to be the case.

729
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:52,040
The two audiobooks that exist are going to be the ones that I wasn't as huge. They were just more

730
01:09:52,040 --> 01:10:02,200
normal, I guess. But what an author to just like knock it out of the park. Good for her.

731
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:09,240
So yeah, because then because you've been reading a few other ones. Oh, boy, have I.

732
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:16,200
Some of those like vintage. God, I love signet. I don't even care that they're not that great.

733
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:19,560
I'm just here for the vibes. It was only the one before that was not that great. The one I'm

734
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:23,960
reading now is actually pretty good so far, but I'm not very far in. So we'll see. Well,

735
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:29,960
there's the one Lisa Klepis that I see people talk about. Yeah. And I'm kind of like not

736
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:35,880
read side eyeing. Like, do I want to read it? But yeah, I wish there were more. There is a

737
01:10:37,480 --> 01:10:43,320
Elisa Braden sent me a faded email last night. I mean, it wasn't just me, but I'm main charactering

738
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:52,280
myself. It was fate. She sent out a mass email to her subscribers and she's got a novella,

739
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:57,240
The Secrets of a Moonlit Night on Kindle Unlimited. That one involves a ghost. And then

740
01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:02,840
she's part of a paranormal anthology that's coming out, I think on the 28th of October.

741
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:11,560
It's on my birthday. Oh, hell yeah. Love that for you. And that is called Once Upon a Haunted

742
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:16,600
Romance, a historical romance collection. Why aren't there more Halloween historicals?

743
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:23,800
I know. They want more. I know. And apparently, like her novella that's on KU was in one from

744
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:29,800
last year that was a Midnight Requiem from Dragonblade Publishing. Oh, I saw that. I

745
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:34,360
didn't read it, but it was on my list of things to consider. Yeah, I should have bought. I didn't

746
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:42,520
know that. I mean, I just think of Requiem for a Dream from Parks and Rec. But this is a plea.

747
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:50,920
This is a call to action. It's so funny when you get witchy contemporary romances very in right

748
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:56,520
now. And there are so different. There are a lot of contemporary witch romances. So they're so hard

749
01:11:56,520 --> 01:12:01,160
to pull off for me. Well, I'm just intrigued by the fact that that's so big that it hasn't...

750
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:09,080
Yeah. I haven't really seen anybody recently write a historical witch romance. Yeah.

751
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:14,680
There was an instinct to have in the market. Contemporary and historical always do the same

752
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:20,280
thing at the same time. But you think... I mean, because there's like... I mean, now a lot of

753
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:25,560
authors are going towards shifters and traditionally published contemporary romance authors are making

754
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:32,200
their sci-fi and monster romance debuts and stuff. And yeah, I mean, the thing about contemporary

755
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:41,720
witches, now it published 2022, 2023, they're always so distinctly the same in a way. It's like

756
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:49,640
they're very... Quirky is not the right word, but there's just something about them that is almost

757
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:57,000
dating. They're very dated in the modern time. I don't quite know. I think I know what you mean.

758
01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:01,880
They all feel... Not all. There are some really standout ones that I have read, but a lot of them

759
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:08,360
feel like they're written by the same person. Yes. Yeah. And I don't... So it's very hard

760
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:13,720
for me to find one that I'll absolutely go to bat for. It's just a book that I reread

761
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:22,200
outside of the season. So I'm like... And again, I just like historical romance better. So I would

762
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:28,920
love if there were more options to choose from. I did get... I had asked for submissions on my

763
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:34,360
story about people telling... For more historical paranormal ones. I do have a lot written down

764
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:39,160
that I need to read, but we'll get into that on our Halloween episode. Yeah. Yeah. I'll see if I

765
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:45,000
can get any more in, or I will just put them in a TBR list in the show notes.

766
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:56,120
But yeah, that's just our thoughts on the severe lack of historical witches and paranormal stuff.

767
01:13:56,920 --> 01:14:03,240
I mean, there are the Susan... Susan Allen. I read one of them. Wasn't a huge fan.

768
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:06,600
But again, I think I just wasn't in the mood for it.

769
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:11,160
I have another one of hers I need to read. I mean, there are a few, but they're not usually

770
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:14,760
witches. There are a lot... Not a lot, but... Shifters. There's several shifters, several

771
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:18,760
vampires. I think vampires are the biggest one I've seen in historical, which makes sense.

772
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:26,120
And vampires, I feel like are kind of having a comeback. They sure are. Yeah. Which I'm here

773
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:31,240
for. Oh, I also am. I love a vampire. I really do. But where are the witch historicals?

774
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:36,200
I agree. I just feel like the vibes are right. They really are.

775
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:43,080
Alexandra Vassey, if you're listening, I would love for you to read it. Oh my God.

776
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:46,200
It's a witch historical romance. I just feel like you would eat that.

777
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:48,600
It should be so good.

778
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:53,960
Well, now I want that to happen. Okay, wait. I feel the need to say

779
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:58,280
India Holden is excluded from this narrative. I feel like I'm going to have to read it.

780
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:02,840
I feel the need to say India Holden is excluded from this narrative because she delivered

781
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:10,280
excellent witches. She really did. They're less spooky. No, they're more spunky.

782
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:16,840
But not spunky in the bad spunk. Not the Elizabeth Hoy spunky, just spunky. Snazzy.

783
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:21,000
Snazzy. Why would you want that? I have to distinguish.

784
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:25,560
Because the word has been forever tainted.

785
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:34,840
I know. Yeah. But India Holden, bow down. You are a queen. Yes. We need a princess.

786
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:42,360
We need a princess. One who is not Jill Barnett. Somebody who's writing right now.

787
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:46,280
Yeah. Holding out for a hero. I need things happening, publishing right now. Because again,

788
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:51,400
Theresa Madeira, she's not writing anymore. Elizabeth Boyle, I have no clue. That series

789
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:56,200
got canceled. So she hasn't written anything paranormal since then. The Alexis Hall one that

790
01:15:56,200 --> 01:16:01,320
I read, the sapphic one, they're not. I'm trying to remember what happened. Was that the Morta Follies?

791
01:16:02,440 --> 01:16:09,640
It's told by Puck. So there aren't witches. I mean, there's one character who's like kind of

792
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:15,320
a witch, but I don't think she uses the term witch. She's a witch. Yes. I got better.

793
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:23,720
Yeah. She turned me into a newt. I don't think they're witches though. I think one of them is

794
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:28,840
she's accused of being a witch. People kind of think that she is and that she used her magic to

795
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:35,320
kill her family. But she's not really. But there are gods and goddesses involved and it's kind of

796
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:44,040
magical. So I really love that book, but not witchy. But if you like witchy... And I...

797
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:48,200
Rome. That's a book that's like... It's more like that. Yeah. In the same vein. Yeah.

798
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:53,400
Just like anything paranormal, sci-fi-ish, but also historical. Because it's just like, I just miss...

799
01:16:54,200 --> 01:17:01,960
I love the historical customs and the inherent... Just the world that it is. It's just something that

800
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:10,440
I love so much that contemporary just doesn't give me. And so it just really makes me happy to read

801
01:17:10,440 --> 01:17:23,320
them. Well, there's that. I kind of got a little bit of a preview for Halloween. So that's going

802
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:31,640
to be an episode. Get ready. Oh boy is it. I've read so many books this month. I know. I've read

803
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:36,600
the most books probably of the year. It will be in October. Just because I've been reading a lot of

804
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:41,480
novellas. Me too. And I've been in like a weird like arc slump where I don't want to read anything

805
01:17:41,480 --> 01:17:47,080
that I have. So it's just novellas after novella after novella. Because they're just short and

806
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:51,480
like easy. I'm on like book 33 or something for the month. Yeah. And again, quite a few have been

807
01:17:51,480 --> 01:17:58,840
novellas, but like not as many as you would think. And I'm fighting the urge to reread

808
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:04,360
Amorals After Dark. Not the entire thing. Just pull a few. Just rein it in until after Halloween.

809
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:12,920
I know, but they're so spooky. Spooky is a state of mind. It is. And I'm always in the Amorals After

810
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:18,680
Dark state of mind. I'm probably gonna, I'll try to restrain myself until after Halloween. But who

811
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:26,120
knows? I'm a wild card. I'm risky. So there's that. But and the thing is, I like those, they read

812
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:31,400
almost like historical because the heroes are so old. And some of the heroines too. Like Sebastian,

813
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:38,360
he's so old. And she's older. She's like, like, like centuries old. And he's just a little baby

814
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:42,760
compared to her. But he basically reads like a historical romance hero. Same thing with like

815
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:48,440
Reidstrom. They all kind of do. So I'm like, you know what? That's my contemporary historical.

816
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:59,800
Anyway, we've lost the plot. Yeah, lost the plot. Where is it? It's gone forever. Cool.

817
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:08,840
Love that for us. Bewitching. I was bewitched. Go watch the show Bewitched. It is a banger.

818
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:13,880
It's got some funny Halloween episodes too. Because her husband works in advertising.

819
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:20,520
And he does an ad that's like an old crone looking witch. Like he's an illustrator, like he draws it.

820
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:25,240
And she is so offended that he would, she's like, this promotes harmful stereotypes about witches.

821
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:30,440
And he's like, Samantha, this is an ad. You need to read the Theresa Medeiro, the Breath of Magic,

822
01:19:30,440 --> 01:19:35,240
because like she sees the Wizard of Oz. And she's like, I cannot believe they killed the witch.

823
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:40,840
She's like, Dorothy is a bitch. She's like, I hate Dorothy. Can't believe they did that. And he's

824
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:52,440
like, what? So fun. Yeah, well, she leads a whole campaign to be like down with harmful stereotypes

825
01:19:52,440 --> 01:19:57,720
about witches. I'm pretty sure she like haunts that guy's dreams to do it. Or like she makes

826
01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:04,120
him think that he's dreaming by showing up at night and then being like, I'm pretty sure.

827
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:10,920
I know the one witch that ended up with a vote for Coolidge sign. That makes me laugh.

828
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:17,400
The Theresa Medeiros one, the first one takes place on Halloween. Or like, there's like, it's

829
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:21,160
like a big, like they have like a Halloween party and like they go back in time on all Hallows Eve.

830
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:27,320
So that is the most seasonally relevant one that I've read so far. If you

831
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:31,560
listener need to read something quick before because our episodes coming out on Halloween. So kind of

832
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:36,920
preparing you for next year. I feel like I read one recently that takes place on Halloween.

833
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:42,520
There were like a few contemporaries and stuff. I don't feel like I've read like a few other ones.

834
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:48,760
Oh, Captain Bride by Catherine Ash. There's a ghost and he's gonna marry this virgin who's

835
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:53,320
trapped in a castle and he's gonna do it on Halloween. And then the virgins no longer a

836
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:58,280
virgin. So our heroine is suddenly the only virgin left. And so he's gonna do it with her. And she's

837
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:01,720
like, no, you're totally bluffing. But then he might not be bluffing. And so basically, it's like,

838
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:08,760
oh, we have to have sex to keep you from becoming this ghost bride and then die. Was it good? No.

839
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:16,280
But like, that's disappointing. Was it a vibe? Yes. You know what I mean? Like, it wasn't good.

840
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:23,160
But I also was like, you know what, there's like a ghost that you can hear but only virgins can see.

841
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:32,600
And he he's like kind of evil, but also kind of funny. I don't know. It was a weird book,

842
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:38,520
but I did have a good time even though it wasn't very good. So more to come in our Halloween episode.

843
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:45,240
And that, that's all I'm leaving you with. We've got some sort of

844
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:53,880
moonlight mad something old school school episode. Moonstruck Madness. Moonstruck Madness. Next

845
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:59,080
Friday. And then we're almost done with the year. I think that's what it's called. I could have.

846
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:05,720
It is. Yeah. Okay. No. It's Laurie McVean. I know that. Yep. Yep. She's like a highwayman or something.

847
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:14,040
And it's a whole thing. Exciting. It is. It is exciting. Yay. So that's happening. We have a

848
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:19,880
break somewhere around Thanksgiving. Somewhere. Sometime. Yeah. Julie Garwood happens.

849
01:22:23,480 --> 01:22:29,960
That's all. That's all I've got for you. However, the Muppets end their, their show.

850
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:36,200
I don't know. I don't either. I still would know. That's all folks. Or is that Looney Tunes? You're

851
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:42,840
thinking of Looney Tunes. Whatever. Well, everything is Looney Tunes. Just like these books. That's all folks.

852
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:55,800
You gotta do the little circle spinny thing. That'd be a treat for the people who listen to

853
01:22:55,800 --> 01:23:00,200
the very end and don't. Shout out to you. You get all the gems. After the music's ended,

854
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:03,720
picking up bottles on New Year's Day and then woo.

855
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:22,600
One spider was how I'm making up this podcast. It's for you.