Welcome back to the podcast.
Today I'm with a special guest.
I'm with Dustin of World's Last Hope.
He is a Korean natural farming expert and he kind of modifies it to a modern style,
which utilizes everything around you.
And I'm highly excited for you to be on the show today.
And thank you for reaching out and trying to spread the word.
Could you explain to some people where you're at and how you got into cannabis usage?
So I'm in Northern California, born and raised, like right down the street from the Emerald
Triangle and Humboldt and everything else.
My whole life, I kind of grew up and I would end up getting bronchitis every single year,
every single year for about three weeks out of the year in December, every single year
from when I was like six years old until I was about 16, 17.
Actually started smoking cannabis and never got it again and found out that it actually
helps me with eating problems, headaches, stress, anything else.
It's actually a very, very good ultimately multivitamin and a medicine.
Actually cannabis has got over 27 different essential B vitamins.
So literally you can take it as a multivitamin.
The seeds have all the amino acids and all the full protein amino acids in the seeds
from what I've heard.
So it's very healthy for those.
I've eaten those a lot.
And you also, I heard you talk on another podcast, you had some kind of allergy or something
or you had some kind of contaminated herb that you smoked and that triggered you to
make, want to grow your own and the healthiest manner possible.
Could you explain that to the listeners out there?
Yeah, so I had a friend in quotations that had these plants that were pretty decent size.
They were like eight to 12.
They were like eight to 12 pounders.
It was just all salt ground.
It's just all straight grow more.
But he had them about three weeks out from harvest and had Mike so fucking bad that they
were baskets, like just baskets.
It looked like cotton candy through them.
It was really bad.
A couple of weeks later it came out and he'd gotten rid of them, getting rid of them all.
And the plants actually looked pretty decently clean.
He cleaned up certain things, but I was at around harvest time.
I was like, I started asking a few questions.
I was like, Hey man, so, you know, what'd you use to get rid of this?
He's like, Oh, I used avid.
I'm like, Whoa, you're like two weeks out and you used avid.
He's like, yeah, it's like, Oh, got rid of the mites.
I'm like, dude, that is a like systemic poison that actually bonds to your DNA brings out
your genetic flaws.
And the recommended rate for that product is 56 days.
They say, Oh, you spray it right before you go into flower and you're fine.
No, it's made for roses and Christmas trees.
The government has tested it.
It is six months to touch and it's still, you still ingest it.
If you touch it, it is 12 months to eat and didn't know it until after I already consumed
a little bit of it and then got permanent heart damage because of it.
I actually went to my local doctor and he was like, Hey, did you know that your, uh,
your heart rate's off and your blood pressure is off?
It's like, what are you talking about?
He's like, you need to go see a cardiologist.
So they did a sonogram on my heart and they're like, your heart is swollen, infected, has
fluid in it, is beating irregularly and your blood pressure's through the roof.
You need to take this pill every day, three times a day, or you will have a heart attack
and die.
Where are you?
Were you smoking it or are you making edibles out of it?
Was it hash?
I was so, so I was smoking it.
But the thing is, is your lungs don't have anything to buffer anything going into your
body.
Your stomach has stomach acid to help kind of buffer certain things.
So with certain super heavy pesticides that they use in the agricultural part, the agricultural
part of our, just in food and vegetables in general, your stomach can handle some of that
stuff, but your lungs absorb everything.
It's the smoky day outside people that have respiratory problems are having a very, very
rough time.
Um, but yeah, unfortunately I ingested like a quarter pound of it and a bunch of concentrates
of it.
And yeah, all of a sudden I just started not feeling very good and went to the doctor and
the doctor's like, yeah, your heart's completely off.
So I actually used to even be a four sport athlete school.
I used to do basketball, soccer, golf, track, and then race my dirt bike all summer.
Very healthy.
And, um, yeah, I went to the cardiologist and he told me pretty much you have to take
this pill three times a day.
You have, you will have a heart attack and die.
So I started taking their pills and started throwing up every day from about eight to
noon every day for like eight months.
Okay.
Well here's one for nausea.
Now I just like hurt.
Okay.
Well here's for pain.
Okay.
So I'm going to do a little back pain here.
Sure.
And dude, I ended up taking like eight different pills every day and just throwing them up
every single day and was like, dude, this is, I'm still having heart problems and I'm
like, what the hell is going on?
Started growing my own organic grown cannabis and found out, guess what?
There is things that help with heart arrhythmia, blood pressure, um, stomach problems, head
problems, things like that.
So it actually like, when my heart goes out of sync, if it's going boom, boom, boom, boom,
my heart will go boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
So you go over there and it's like your clothes are out of the, out of a sink in your washing
machine.
You readjust them and it starts working fine.
Um, I start smoking any Indica that is organically grown and it'll actually help with my heart
but it does not seem to work the same with the synthetic version of it.
Like my body doesn't seem to like EDTA.
I just, that's my consistent diet.
I'm just consistently just not feeling well.
Yeah.
So I started trying to create a program to grow the absolute best quality, cleanest medicine,
highest nutritional content medicine that I possibly could because I have other patients
that actually physically need it.
And if they run into mold, pesticides, anything like that, they're down in bed for a few weeks
at a time.
I'm the same way.
Like it's, it's not, it's not fun.
So I tried to create a system that everybody can partake in, but you could still have the
absolute cleanest meds that are actually good for you.
Yeah.
I smoked a lot of tainted weed back in my youth and it really messed up my lungs.
Uh, since I've been growing my own, I don't have any lung issues.
I can breathe better.
Uh, so you know, unfortunately the whole pesticide thing, it's just like cigarettes.
The guy can sit there and change smoke cigarettes and go through a carton a day.
And then there'll be one person that smokes one pack and gets lung cancer.
The guy that's sitting in the room gets secondhand smoking, gets lung cancer.
It all depends on your body and your chemical composition.
Yeah.
So that's what is unique and how cannabis affects them for sure.
Uh, indica strains.
What are some of your favorite indica strains that you do like to use to consume?
Um, I like, right now I like this Bubba diagonal.
It's a pre-98 Bubba, sour diesel on Truro G. Um, black Domina, it's a three way land
race.
It's a 80.
So it's, they took one of 300, one of 300, one of 500 and then cross the three together
and then chose, um, eight, the 86th, Fino out of 300 out of that.
But it's called black Domina.
It floats around up here.
It's super duper indica, but it's like, uh, Afghani or Tega.
I forget the other side of it, but it's very, very good medicine tastes like straight up
like rotten raw meat.
Girls do not like that cut, but it's very, very, very strong.
Yeah.
It's in the cloud of taste.
I'm sure the Sensi dominant death star, um, it's like 22% THC, 12% CBD, but it's, it's
indica more indica.
Uh, they took the NYC sour D on Sensi and then back crossed it back to Sensi really
good weed.
Um, I'm mainly an OG head though.
Like I like stronger flower that way that I don't have to go do.
I mean, I like to sit here and smoke a ball and then go do other things or take a dab
and go do other things.
I don't want to sit here all day and smoke.
I want my meds to be strong enough to get me through my day and do what I need to do.
Yeah.
I'm the same way.
I don't want to overconsume.
I want to make my day better while I'm working and get, gets me motivated and kind of the
opposite of the stigma that cannabis has out there of people being lazy.
They'll smoke, be lazy and sit around on the couch all day and do nothing.
It's all about being a productive stoner is what I call it.
Don't be the guy that sits here and just burns out, passes out.
No, you smoke.
If you're with me, we're going to go do some shit.
So get high, but we're still moving and getting the habit of doing that.
If you can't, if you can't work and smoke, then you don't get to smoke.
Exactly.
So all this led into your personal research trial and error.
You were talking on some other podcast about how you could actually taste the nutrients
as you're smoking it.
Could you explain that a little bit to some of the listeners?
So I started doing a lot of trial and error side by side because I was running a bunch
of nutrient companies side by side, by side, by side.
And then I started dipping into organics and then running organics and synthetic side by
side and trying to blend them together and trying to build soil and trying to find out
certain regiments where, you know, obviously you don't want if you're going to be with
this plant for three months, you want it to taste and get you where you want to be the
best.
You don't there's nobody likes plants that look great.
That tastes like shit.
Like that's not the end goal of any of this.
So I literally started just trying an error, like been like, OK, well, botanic care does
this.
OK, well, Fox Farms does this.
Oh, well, Heavy 16 does this.
Well, Mills does this.
OK, well, age old does this.
OK, well, vital garden supply does this.
Nature's pride does this.
And then starting to be like, OK, well, this is their regiments.
Well, what if I back them off to certain rates and see how that tastes or whenever you're
starting to build soil a lot of time, like when you're doing a super soil, it's overloaded.
So it's like, oh, it's water only.
But plants don't really fade.
They're black as shit the whole way out.
That means the plant still has nutrients left in them.
But there is a difference between the plant going off of a liquid feed that it can eat
and get rid of quickly versus something that's sticking in the soil that it can slowly keep
leaching off of and keep feeding off of.
For instance, trace minerals.
If you go heavy on trace minerals or if you use them early in the last time you want to
use trace minerals as going into flower, if you top dress any kind of like as might zeolite,
bentonite, soft rock phosphate, any of those dusts, you're going to end up tasting it in
your throat.
You're going to start smoking your weed and be like, man, this tastes great.
But then you're going to start having a back of your throat burn.
Too much sulfur.
You can taste it on your lips like your lips will actually burn.
Phosphorus, tip of your tongue.
Too much nitrogen, palate of your tongue.
Sometimes when you do bat guanos too late, a lot of people like the liquid bat guano
or the bat guanos.
If you've ever amended dirt with bat guano, it's in the air.
It gets all up in your sinuses.
You can taste it and you taste it for a few days.
And anything you smoke, that's what it tastes like.
And if you start feeding that too late in flower, that's what all of your flower ends
up tasting like.
Or same thing with kilk, same thing with nitrogen, same thing with like alfalfa, same thing with
certain PK boosters.
Certain PK boosters like, for instance, say like liquid cool bloom from General Hydroponics.
That's probably one of the easiest, most gentle ones that they have in my opinion.
But it's just straight up a zero, zero 50.
It's sulfate apotash, but it's cut with phosphoric acid, I believe.
But with the regiments that I found out with just making my own inputs that I found out
that pretty much our flower recipe turned out to be like a zero 50, 30.
Super high PK, but that's the same as almost most bud hardners on the market.
But we're consistently feeding this all the way through.
This is such a clean system that I can feed today, harvest today.
It'll still burn white and you will not taste anything unless there's something lingering
in my soil.
Which my soil now is 29 runs deep, I want to say, like pretty close to it's like seven
years, seven, almost eight years old.
And I've been consistently running it four times, four times a year forever and multiple
rooms and veggies and everything else and outdoor and indoor.
Yeah.
So excuse me.
So you use a modern, modern natural farming technique you said, which is similar to KNF,
but it has different applications because you're using more stuff right around you and
more available to in your area.
Could you kind of explain the difference between that?
And then we'll take a little break and then we'll come back and kind of go into some of
your recipes and we'll go into your classes.
I know you're giving classes on this when where nobody can get in touch with you and
how they can get into your classes.
Yeah.
So I started doing a Korean natural farming about 11 years ago.
Back when I started, there was there wasn't anybody teaching it.
There was literally just like the super broken manual.
Drake was just starting to put out videos on YouTube, but they're mainly for his lawn
and his graph and his, you know, things around his property.
But there really wasn't anybody doing it.
I tried and looked and looked and looked and looked and looked and looked and could not
find anybody doing it.
And I started implementing it and actually I started getting on Instagram about five
years after I discovered it and started teaching a few of my friends at locally and they're
like, holy crap.
And then started teaching it on Instagram.
People were like, holy shit, like this dude's making microbial solutions, support bacteria,
veg food, like 10 different kinds of veg food, straight fish food that he's making
without smell that actually doesn't you feed at one time, your whole house doesn't smell
like fish.
He's making his own, but hardener, she's making his own flower foods.
He's making his own finishers, IPM programs.
Just eventually you just start being like, well, I've read all these companies.
Well, what did I like from this company?
Well, I like these guys as microbial solution or their, for instance, heavy 16, their roots
fire is BIM.
It's beneficial indigenous microorganisms.
It's literally IMO, IMO to cut and water fermented.
And now you have your own liquid microbial solution that actually helps promote root
growth, helps metabolize what's in your soil and helps actually give your plant free food
just out of different bacteria is that you collect out of the air.
It gives you nitro fixers, boss fixers, photosynthetic bacteria and purple non sulfuric bacteria.
If you collect the right colonizations with them.
But after a while you just go, man, I really like this product.
How can you make it?
That's as easy as it is.
Okay.
What can I use to supplement this?
Okay.
Well, you've still got some of this make what you think is the closest thing to it.
Try them side by side, side, see the results.
Like that's literally what I had to do is just literally sit down and be like, well,
plants like this rate plants hate this rate.
I overdid this.
They hated that.
I under did this.
It's not enough.
Like, so you either need to make higher concentrations or it all depends on what you're trying to
balance.
So the whole point I thought when I first started getting into the Korean natural farming
section was this whole style is meant for this whole style was literally meant for third
world countries.
It's meant to be like, Hey, we have nothing.
We have farmland that we can't plant in.
We have trees that don't produce any fruit.
We have bushes that don't have any fruit on them.
We can't, there's no food.
And they go, okay, here's some rice, here's sugar, here's fruit.
Eat all the rice you want.
Any leftover rice.
We're going to show you how to cultivate microbes from different places that are naturally there.
We're going to put those in your soil and make your dirt soil.
We're going to take either a raw rice you have, and we're going to show you how to create
a super strong bacteria to help sterilize your land, to help make it fertile.
Okay.
Eat all the fruit and vegetables you want.
We're going to take any of the leftovers, we're going to put those aside.
We're going to ferment and make those food for plants that we're going to collect from
those seeds.
So you literally had nothing and now we're going to give you something and make you actually
sustainable.
Well, I started being like, well, how can I introduce this to all of our growing companions?
The guys that are wanting to grow weed, the guys that are in the middle of humble, the
guys that are in the middle of Mendo.
What about the kids that are just starting in the middle of LA, middle of Oakland, like,
you know, big cities that they are like, dude, I don't got a fucking farm.
I got a farmland.
I got a two by two tent.
And that's all I can do.
You can still play you back in the day, even if you were a beggar on the streets, you were
not starving to death because you still knew how to grow your own things with this system.
If you just straight eat food, you can go to the grocery store.
This is not the, obviously this is not the best part to do.
But if you go to the grocery store, try to look for as organic things as you possibly
can, obviously, but go buy your fruits and vegetables, come home, make your inputs and
you can apply those to your garden and it will cost you little to nothing.
And you can, and you don't need any more space than you normally would.
Like literally you can get away with using small little mason jars, like a can this big
will literally give you like about 250 gallons of food, like just the concentration rates
that we end up using because we're making.
So when I started looking through all the Korean natural farming input lists, it feels
like some things were lost in translation and certain things needed to be updated.
For instance, I feel like there's a big difference between a fermented plant juice, a fermented
plant extract and a JDAM liquid fertilizer.
So a JDAM liquid fertilizer is just material and water.
That's fine, but you can't consistently repeat the dilution rates with your JLF.
So you're consistently added to it.
But if you're like, all right, well, plants will take this much.
Well, okay.
Well, how do you learn how much they take?
You got to have to burn some plants to just see your dilution rates and you're going to
have to, you're going to keep adding to it so it's going to get stronger and stronger.
So your dilution rates need to go further back.
With the style that I try to teach, you actually get a certain volume amount and you get the
same amount every time.
So you can repeat your process.
So if you actually have something that you like, you can do the same thing next round.
It doesn't change.
You can change it, but it doesn't change.
And the, I feel like the fermented plant juices.
Well, how do you make juice?
Like, how do you make juice from the store?
You go buy a thing and concentrate, you add water to it.
That makes it juice.
Well, how do you make the concentrate?
There's no water added.
So I feel like that's the difference between a fermented plant extract and fermented plant
juice in a JMS.
The fermented plant extracts are super concentrated, but there's no liquid.
The more liquid you add, the more diluted that your ferments going to end up being.
But in the Korean natural farming standpoint, a fermented plant extract is water, lacto,
and acid.
A extract or a juice is plants, sugar, atmospheric pressure, let's do its thing.
I think the extracts are the sugars, the juices are with the water, but at the same time it's
all about the dilution rates.
If you just started up, take cannabis leaves, ferment those in water and feed that to your
plants.
They go, oh man, that was awesome.
That was great.
But I like some more.
I want more.
Like I want more tomorrow.
Like that was cool, but I want more tomorrow.
And every time you start making the modern natural farming versions, you start making
super concentrated versions of our food because we're not trying to grow fruits and vegetables.
You can.
You totally can.
That's what this whole style is based around.
I've tailored it to be more concentrated for cannabis.
So every single, like if you have something like a straight up apple, you're not diluting
that one to 10.
You're taking the apple and taking just the actual extract of the apple using the sugars
to stimulate the microbes on the leaf surface to go through and micro compost and suck the
nutritional content out of that apple composting it actually make peeing and pooping it out.
But it's making that instantly available to the plant that is now in an extracted, super
concentrated form that the plant will uptake and go, man, that was awesome.
I'll see you in a couple of days instead of being like, Oh, I'd like some more tomorrow.
Cause if you miss one feed, you're going to have to consistently keep slapping it, keep
slapping it, keep slapping it.
But me having a synthetic background, going to an organic background, I also go through
a ton of different plant deficiencies.
I teach you how to spot and correct a bunch of different deficiencies, magnesium, sulfur,
iron, nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium, coal ball, overwatering, underwatering, a pH swings,
pH high, pH too low, soil mixes, top amendment kits, all kinds of different things.
But on the classes, my class is a two day class, but it's about 14 to 20 hours we go over.
So if you buy all the ingredients needed for the class, I actually walk you through online
step by step, how to make everything, when to use them, how much to use, why you're using
them and how the plant uptakes them and what that actually turns into.
But I have a whole feed regiment, but in class you make up to 14 inputs, but we go over over
like 35 because everything is food, everything.
And I can show you how to use it.
And if you have things around you, I can show you where to place them.
Because this is not just a basic, you have to do this, you have to do this.
It's like, no, I've got a lawn outside that's not sprayed.
What can I do with it?
Oh, that makes great veg food.
That's actually super good veg food.
Oh, I've got a couple of bamboo plants outside.
What can I do with them?
There's your silica source.
Like I can show you how to find your plant, recognize it, what it actually breaks down
into mineral wise, where to place it and how much to use of it and how that'll help your
plants.
Nice.
So basically it's trying to feed your plants the healthiest possible, just like yourself.
You feed the plant what you feed yourself basically in super high concentrations.
I heard you were talking on another cast.
It was like milliliters to the gallon compared to ounces to the gallon.
Well, again, I normally so whenever we do like our so like a basic feed for like say
vegetative state, like say if you want to give them actual veg food, I like to use cannabis
leaf.
I've so there's nothing more that plants love than being fed themselves.
So if you can either top feed them, grind them up, dry them out, grind them up into
a meal so you can add those to amendments and brew them and tease.
You can extract them and make cannabis leaf.
FBEs I like to use the cannabis leaf.
FB again, it's just straight up 27 different essential B vitamins.
So what are B vitamins essentially to the plant?
Well, vitamin B six is riboflavin that converts into nitrogen.
So that's nitrogen for your plant.
Vitamin B one helps with transplant shock.
So if you straight up feed cannabis leaf, FB while you transplant, it's going to help
that plant sustain and not have that shock that it goes into and actually sit there and
stunt for a while is going to try to grow up while it's rooting instead of trying to
root and then grow up.
Basic feed though would be like a three, two to three milliliters of cannabis, FB, two
to three milliliters of brown rice vinegar, or I actually even use white rice vinegar.
It's more available to me over on the Cali coast.
We have California white rice, which has got four out of the five made made amino acids,
but water soluble calcium.
I make mine from oyster shells.
It's a lot faster reaction that I can actually use today and I can actually visibly see it
actually work.
But it'd be like water soluble, Cali to a cannabis leaf, FB at three brown rice vinegar
at three, uh, OHN at one.
That'd be pretty much like a good basic veg.
You can add humic acids if you like, but, um, I feel like more enzymes and amino acids
are more of our building blocks because we're actually trying to capture different hormones
for different cycles to help them take that plant and push it to its next cycle.
So essentially you're trying to take a child.
You're going to feed a baby, a child to a baby to make it a child.
You're going to make that T you're going to feed a teenager to a child and make it a teenager.
You're trying to help progress those hormone levels to the next States.
Gotcha.
You said HNO.
What was HNO again?
Oh, OHN, oriental herbal nutrient, but it's essentially a medicine for your plant.
It's going to be a, uh, hard extracted, um, mix of a garlic, cinnamon, ginger base with
rosemary and, uh, rosemary and basil added.
So a cinnamon is a very, very, just a very, it's got really good growth hormones, but
it's also antiseptic.
Most bugs do not really like, um, cinnamon, garlic.
A lot of things don't like cinnamon, but it's also very, very good for your immune system.
But it's also got very, very high sulfur content, which also brings out natural oils and aromas
in your plants.
Um, the ginger ginger all is the main oil and ginger, but that's responsible for most
of its medicinal properties, but ginger, garlic, cinnamon, and ginger by themselves, just make
a great, a moon booster, but that one, you can actually start adding in any kind of herbs
or anything that's medicinal or anything that you're doing with bug preventatives.
So say you run into ants, ants hate mustard.
You ferment mustard, add that to your OHN.
Now you're consistently feeding it as preventatives.
You're using the garlic, cinnamon, ginger.
So you're consistently helping boost that plants internal immune system, but you're
also using it in vegetative space, uh, vegetative state and spraying it all the time.
But you also water all these guys in, um, that was one of the big things that I found
between the KNF and MNF is most of the KNF stuff was meant, was meant for foliar feeding.
I started like watering it in and being like, well, this kind of works kind of like how
some of these other nutrients have been working.
So let's just see how much they can take and they can't.
So mainly the way, the reason behind the, um, fermentations is most of them are very,
very low pH or excuse me, it's like seven to seven four.
The more inputs that you end up adding, the lower your pH is going to end up buffering,
which that's fine.
We have cation exchange as your soil dries out, it'll naturally raise back up to its
natural pH, but lactic acid, lactobacillus is such a strong species of bacilli that if
anything is sitting with water sitting still, it's going to try to ferment it.
Or if you start overwatering or if you're start hitting your pH too low consistently,
it's not about the cation exchange at that point.
It's more about lacto taking it over and trying to ferment it and drop it down to three, which
everything that's another reason why we try to use the brown rice vinegar, because it
actually helps break down lactic acid in your root ball.
But it's also a natural organic pH stabilizer.
It'll actually lower your pH, higher it, and then stabilize it.
It also helps break down calcium and makes nitrogen more available to your plant.
Oh, man, there's so much more to talk about here.
We're going to take a little bit break here and we're going to come back and run maybe
through a recipe or two.
And then we will continue from there and we'll be right back, folks.
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And welcome back everyone.
I'm here with Dustin from World's Last Hope still, and we're going to run over some of
his MNF farming methods.
That's modern natural farming, which is a little bit different than KNF, Korean natural
farming, where it is tuned strictly for cannabis and using the stuff that's right around you,
you have available.
Could you run down a fertilizer, the NPK mix, you make them separately or do you have them
all at the same time?
Explain how that works for the fertilizer part.
Yeah.
So the nicest part about this system is it's still all about soil building.
You're still wanting to build biology.
You're still wanting to create a good ecosystem for everything to play nice.
You still want your soil super balanced and nutritious, obviously.
Cover crops are your best friend.
The no-till systems work great with this.
Even bagged soil works great with this, but this is a soil-based system.
The entire point of this system, I feel, is you're trying to get your soil to a point
where you don't really have to do much, which obviously you want to try to create a living
soil.
But there are still certain points of that plant's life where you can push certain elements
to make it exceed its potential where it wants to be fit.
So pretty well, you're going to be watching your plants and taking note on what's happening,
looking for growth rates, looking for deficiencies, spotting certain things.
Obviously you want to start, if you can, getting your soil tested on regular, which is just
a good tool, especially for big scale.
But if there is an element that you're missing in your soil, this is a great way to replace
it while you're getting through your run so that you can correct it in your soil later
on.
So for instance, if you're lacking potassium, you can make your own water-soluble potassium.
You can literally make each element you want individually.
You can make nitrogen, you can make phosphorous, you can make potassium, calcium, cal mag,
calphos.
You can make literally just about any element that you would like.
Just find a plant that has that element specifically in it, go find it.
But for vegetative state, you can use just about anything that's a actual leafy green.
But one of the absolute best tools for this whole system and finding out what you're trying
to ferment, this is the key word, Google mineral content of.
It will not show you nitrogen, but that will be riboflavin.
So anything that has got vitamin B6, it'll show you calcium, phosphorous, zinc, cobalt,
iron.
I mean, just for instance, garlic, it's high in sulfur, it's antibiotic.
It's got vitamin B, vitamin C, magnesium, selenium, iron, copper, potassium.
Let's see here, watermelon's got vitamin C, vitamin A, potassium, magnesium, vitamin
B1, B5, B6, carotene, beta carotene, liposine, crylite, AKA amino acids, antioxidants, alpha
carotene, beta carotene, vitamin A, liposine, gives color but doesn't change into vitamin
A. Curbophene, antioxidant, it's also anti-inflammatory and helps lower inflammation.
But that's just certain things that you can look up if you are trying to find where to
place what you found, obviously.
But that's just one thing that we can use in our flour foods.
For vegetative state, if you fish, I mean, it all depends on what the fish are eating,
really.
But at the same time, Google mineral content of bass, mineral content of trout, mineral
content of salmon.
Salmon I like to use for flour.
I like to use bass and trout for vegetative state.
But whenever you're making your own fish amino acid, you can actually add a enzyme called
bromelain.
Bromelain is actually the main enzyme present in pineapple.
So pineapple, if you eat too much of it, it'll eat you right back.
It'll give you canker sores.
But that is a flesh eating enzyme.
So if you add just literally like one tenth to one twentieth, you just need the presence
of it.
You mix that with your fish, equal weight sugar, chop up your fish really well.
That will completely digest that entire fish besides the scales and bones within about
21 days.
Usable, ready to go fish that has been microbe.
It's been processed by microbes and it's actually just it has no smell to it.
That's the coolest part about that is that since it's not cold pressed or heated and
pressed, it's microbially composted.
There's no smell to it.
So whenever you feed it, you still get all the omega fatty acids.
You still get all of the super good vitamins from all the fish, the fish oil and everything
else.
But you don't have to deal with the smell.
I really feel like the fish really helps bring on the oils onto your glands.
Like if you've ever had weed that's sticky and you've had weed that's greasy, greasy
weed smokes better and it actually comes out with better hash.
So when I developed the system, I went I want to make the absolute most potent weed I can.
I want to do so.
I want to I want to grow it for hash.
That's what I want to do.
I want to make the absolute greasiest, most coated shit that I can.
How do I do that?
Well, you got to work backwards.
You got to get in the strain to do that.
You got to feed it a certain way.
You got to give it certain lighting and then you go from there.
But you want to work backwards.
OK, well, how can I bring on greasy glands or sticky glands?
Well, I know the fish and the fish oil products really work well to help do that.
OK, how can I make my weed louder?
OHN.
OHN has got the sulfur in it.
Same thing whenever you're starting to push your Cal Mag late in flour.
Cal Mag is calcium, manganese and sulfur.
Sulfur is a natural element that actually helps with natural flavors.
It's a natural bulker and calcium helps harden off cell walls to help protect them.
But it also, again, helps with nitrogen, helps make nitrogen more available to the plant
also.
But yeah, you can literally break down every single element as you'd like and, you know,
whatever you're trying to boost, figure it out.
But yeah, just straight up for veg.
Again, fish, fish work great.
But you can also if you're fishing by yourself or if you're going out and fishing, the faster
you can process that fish, the faster it's going to decompose.
So you do not want to get anything frozen.
If you have to buy fish, ask if it comes in fresh.
Most times and not they gut it, skin it and throw it on ice and then they send it to you.
So it's not actually necessarily frozen.
But if you're if you have a harbor down the street or anybody that go a buddy that goes
fishing, dude, give him a five gallon bucket.
Go get all those fish.
But if you when you gut the fish, if you take the fish guts out, put those aside, you can
ferment those and actually have your own straight blood meal.
It's like a twelve zero zero or excuse me, a fifteen zero zero that you use at like half
a milliliter per gallon.
And it'll just blacken everything right out.
You can do that with any kind of chicken blood, pork blood, chicken feathers.
You can I mean, the world's your oyster.
You can make your inputs out of amendments.
You can make your you can go out and I mean, literally grass in your yard as long as it's
not sprayed.
You can I mean, grass makes a great supplement.
But one thing again, the one thing that plants love being fed them most is themselves.
Cannabis leaf FPE kills it.
And the cool thing about using your cannabis is if you're doing multiple cycles, say if
you have an indoor or an outdoor and a depth or if you have if you're doing multiple runs
indoors, your defoliations will actually start becoming the food for the next round.
So you'll have all your plants that you tore apart and vegetative state and used all the
clippings from that to actually use that for vegetative food.
And then when you go into like week three in flower, that's when you can actually take
the week three in flower and feed those to the guys going into flower and help progress
them to the next level.
Week five, you forget you ferment those guys, give those to the week threes to help them
progress to fives.
And then when you're actually making your bubble hash, take your water from your bubble
hash, add two cups of sugar to it, let it sit open.
So it's aerobic.
So if you seal anything, it's anaerobic.
If you let it sit open, it's aerobic.
It's going to pull in natural natural yeast and lactic acid out of the air and start to
start making its own pedicle layer or its own scoby.
But the bubble hash water, you're taking all your microbes from everything that you've
been consistently using in your runs.
You're using your your later on flower material to help push the hormones from five to finish
THC feed and THC and you've got chlorophyll and I feel and all those terpenes to help
with terpene development and pest resistance.
But again, you start feeding that individual states going through flower and you can start
trying to help push those natural hormone levels, but you start getting veg feed week three
feed week five, three, and then you just from nothing things you normally throw away.
Yeah, I've thrown a lot of defoliation away.
Sometimes I just top dress the rest and let it slowly work itself back into the dirt living
soil.
But could you go through a recipe real quick?
What would you do?
For example, right at week two and the flower is normally when I'll defoliate and it'll
have some of that phosphorus nutrient because it's transitioning.
You're saying to everybody do take that, mix it up and then for the next round, you use
that during transition phase because it's high in those nutrients and what the plant
wants during that phase.
What would be a five gallon bucket recipe for my defoliation if I went in week two defoliated,
put it all into a five gallon bucket?
What else would I need to use that?
So you need to have your, so a five gallon bucket, whenever you actually ripped.
So I like to take my leaves and put them in my hand and get a big old stack of them.
You rip them up into thirds and then you're going to mix that equal weight sugar.
So what you're going to be doing is you're going to be stimulating all the microbes on
that leaf surface, trying to help kickstart the fermentation process and help it try to
start fermenting the atmospheric pressure out of the air is actually going to start
lowering that material and trying to start shrinking it down.
But a five gallon bucket, you can almost fit an entire 55 gallon trash bag when it's completely
ripped up and after it's been shrunk down a few times.
But literally, yeah, just take your leaves, rip them up, equal weight sugar, mix them
really, really, really, really, really, really well.
You do not want any pockets that are not touched with it.
If they do, they're going to start trying to bloom mycelium, which is not exactly the
worst thing in the world.
It's just now it's going to try to start sucking some of the moisture content out of your ferment.
You don't want that.
But from there, like literally, I mean, even again, if you can even just make a small little
jar, like even if you only have like two plants or the leaves, like not even like 50 leaves,
rip those guys up equal weight sugar, throw them in a mason jar, throw a rock on it to
weigh it down and just let it sit open for seven to seven to 10 days.
And you'll end up more than likely you're going to end up with just a little teeny tiny
bit of that syrup, but you might end up with like 30 or 40 milliliters of it.
That's going to make you 20 gallons of food at two mills per gallon.
That is that's what I want to do.
Be self-sufficient.
I don't have to worry about anybody.
Keep it all in the house.
Keep it rolling.
That's my plan.
And one of the one of the biggest thing that I tried to promote whenever I'm doing my classes
and trying to teach everybody is I again, I've been doing this for a very long time.
I could have been selling these nutrients from day one.
I don't feel like that's the way for this style to go.
I feel like this is something that you're going to teach.
You're going to teach a man to fish.
I mean, I've been teaching online for over six years now and teaching on in person classes,
going to people's farms and teaching them and now teaching online.
But it's I feel this style is not meant to be sold.
I'm not trying to teach you a class and then having you buy my products.
I'm literally teaching you a class.
You're paying for my time.
But then from there, guess what?
The world's your oyster.
You have a complete new way of thinking about everything.
You go, wow, I didn't realize that I have so many things that I can use around me.
I'm going to start fermenting everything.
Like after my class, it makes you want to go out and forage and go look for things,
not want you to buy bottles.
I'm not selling a ship.
Besides my time, I feel like this is something I give you a fish you can eat for a day.
You know, but if I teach you, if I teach you how to grow, you're going to fucking smoke
for life.
Yeah, I'm all about that, too.
That's why I'm trying to educate people and get people like yourself passionate about
doing the same thing and educate people so they can do it themselves in these new states
become illegal.
I'm also trying to make it so that everything is very, very easy to find.
You can use as many different things as you possibly have around you.
Once you have the tools to know how to do it and where to place it, dude, there's no
limit.
Like this is the end game.
There's no you don't need to buy anything from anybody.
Like I literally buy mycos azos because I just don't grow the plants to harvest from
them and neem oil and enzymes and sulfur.
Those are the five things I buy.
That's the only five things that I buy for have bought in for years besides clone blocks.
Like I even make my own clone gel, my own waiting agents, my own mercy booster.
Turpid did.
What's your words?
What's the limit?
What are you trying to enhance?
Are you trying to make your weed so when you smoke it two hours later, that's still all
you taste.
That's mercy.
Yeah, I make mercy and boosters.
That's not tight enough.
It's either a mineral deficiency or you're not hitting them.
Are you something wrong?
It's either the strain, a deficiency, a mineral deficiency or but I have something to tighten
them up if they're not tight enough.
But with this style, dude, I can have plants come in at day four with pre bloods on them
and they're solid as a rock.
And by week three, it's enough to smoke on and it's clean as shit.
You got to be your own worst critic for sure.
And how I've done that is not even going through and testing my soil, reading the plants, testing,
testing my smoke and knowing what I'm amending.
But same time, if you're missing an element, then you start to be like, oh, fuck, I forgot
to add my potassium.
Then you start doubling up on your potassium in your feed regimen because the plant's going
to uptake that within two to three days and be ready for more.
But it's going to be pretty well depleted at that point.
So you're going to have to keep reintroducing it because it's not getting it from the soil.
But then you go next cycle instead of going, oh, fuck, I'm missing potassium.
And you're like week five instead of you doing a heavy dose of kelp or potassium sulfate
or wood ash or something that's super, super high in potassium, make it a liquid feed so
the plant can uptake and get rid of it.
But that way just keep an eye.
Oh, this is what I was lacking.
So when the cycle is done, the plant's not just getting that and then abundant of it
and taste that I'd rather struggle through the rest of that round, correct it, reset
it.
Exactly.
So excuse me.
You are.
You were talking about the plant medicine again.
What were the ingredients you were like cinnamon, garlic and cinnamon, garlic, rosemary, ginger
and basil.
So the traditional Korean natural farming style does garlic, cinnamon, ginger, rosemary,
angelica and licorice.
So back in the day, I made that one and did not really care for it for the taste on my
flowers.
It was never sprayed on flowers.
It was only watered in as medicine and essential oil builder.
So I've made the one with the garlic, cinnamon, rosemary and basil.
That one is specifically to get rid of mites, white flies, powdery mildew, a few other things.
The one with the angelica licorice and angelica licorice and turmeric, excuse me, made all
of my flowers.
I had 40 different cultivars, 40 different strains in a couple of different rooms.
They all got fed my that OHN latent flower.
Every single strain tasted like licorice and there was OGs, berries, all kinds of different
flavors.
It tasted like licorice.
I hated it.
I hated that.
I backed off on that recipe, started trying just the straight base and then started trying
to add a few other things to it and found out that if any element in your OHN is too
overpowering, that's what's going to happen.
You literally want to be able to put your pinky in it and taste it and be like garlic,
cinnamon, rosemary, ginger, basil.
You can taste them all individually, not just be like, whoa, angelica, oh, wow, that's got
a bunch of different things in it and it all tastes like that.
Jesus.
You want them all to be very, very, very evenly balanced and you don't want something to overpower
everything else.
You're trying to use this as preventatives for bugs.
You're trying to use this as medicine so the plant can uptake it, but also you're trying
to use this to enhance flavors.
You're trying to help bring out the natural essential oils of the plants.
With the OHN that I teach you how to make, it makes your cushions more cushy.
Make sure OG is more OG.
If you've got something that's berry and you're sick of the berry flavor, it'll bring out
cushy tones in it.
If you're using the fermented fruit extract, you can make fermented fruit extract out of
just about anything.
I have a recipe that I developed over the years that I like.
It works very well.
It's a good base for you to start with.
You don't have to have the same recipe.
That's the coolest thing is I can show you and walk you through your entire grow and
give you all of my recipes and show you how to do everything.
Your plants will still end up different.
That's the coolest part.
That's why I have no problem sharing my recipes.
Back in the day, if your neighbor was growing botanic care and your other neighbor was growing
botanic care and you were growing botanic care and you were all growing the same strain,
all your fucking weeds the same.
Who cares?
It's not special.
You're renting it.
But no, that's the coolest part is I can show you how to do this and you guys can just make
the world your oysters.
This is just another tool in your belt.
If you're already a good grower, this makes it even better.
If you've got something blueberry, if you're like, oh, I'm going to do this, I'm going
to put something blueberry.
If you're like, oh, I'm growing Blue Dream, you lay off the OHN and you do the fermented
fruit extract and that'll bring out more of the berry tones into it.
Or you can even do a straight blueberry pit just by itself for that last little slap to
really bring out those blueberry flavors.
Or if you're like, man, I fucking, I love the blueberry, but I'm fucking sick of it.
I hate all this citrus.
Dude, start backing off the OHN and the fermented fruit extracts, start slapping the OHN.
It'll start dulling down the fruit and start making it more like a blueberry kush.
That sounds interesting.
I know you experimented on the same strain with different nutrients.
And that's one way you get the same strain in a bunch of different atmospheres always
comes out different depending on water, depending on the nutrients with the, with the medicine,
it actually increases the bric level, right?
That's one term is new to a lot of people with the brics, meaning sugar content when
it's really sugary.
The, the, the brics levels.
Yeah.
The bric, the plants are healthy with high brick level, more sugar.
The pests don't like that.
And it makes them more immune, right?
Is that something that helps with the immunity of the plant with this medicine?
So the coolest part about the bricks levels with this is since we are using sugar.
So a lot of people get hung up on, oh, I gotta buy sugar to do this.
Well, you don't, there's natural sugars in all kinds of different kinds of fruits.
And there's a lot of fruits that are very neutral.
Like for instance, figs, super, super high in sugar.
Don't really need any.
You can start using figs to use as your sugar source if you want to.
But everything is very, very high bricks that we're feeding to begin with.
Well, as you know, bacterial dominance, anytime you introduce a food source, it swings your
fungi to bacterial dominance.
If you want, you really want your soil to be mainly fungal dominated because whenever
you start adding food to it, the bacteria over dominate the fungi to becomes bacterially
dominate, but you get bacterial dominance mainly in vegetative state right before you
go into like bud set.
And that's when your soil likes to swing into the fungal state.
You still using sugar should make everything bacterial dominant.
It does not.
It still allows fungi, mycelial growth and mushroom populations to pop up in your soil,
which is amazing to me.
But no, it's, everything is very, very high bricks level.
So the whole basis of my class is to go out and just round up all the ingredients you
can and just find everything you can.
I show you how to make everything.
You know how to make it after that and then you go, Oh, I want to start growing all these
to use in my garden.
Cause what we're doing is we're taking something that's already got middle level bricks levels
that you buy from the store.
If they're organic, they're higher, but if they're picked off the vine, they're 10 times
higher bricks level.
So if you can go to the store and just go get something, take the class, learn how to
do it.
You go, okay, I want to start growing everything.
You take the stuff that we made in class.
You start feeding those as a vegetable, fruits and vegetables that you're going to want to
ferment for your plants for next year.
You start raising those bricks levels.
You get a harvest out of those remake your nutrients with the ones that you just grew.
Feed those back to that garden again.
And then that goes to your cannabis plants.
You're going to have some of the most flavorful fucking weed ever.
That's my goal to do that.
It's kind of hard here because I can't have my outdoor garden.
I'm in Colorado.
I don't have a long enough season or the space, but once I do, that is, that is the goal.
I, we're going to take, go ahead.
Sorry about, no, go ahead.
I was saying I've been growing just herbs in my, in my clone space.
Like if I'm not doing clones, if I'm like, Oh, my rooms are set up.
I'm just recycling moms.
I don't need a shitload of clones.
I'll just start recycling one gallon pots or even milk jugs and just start growing herbs
to add into my OHN.
So yeah, companion planning.
That's a good place for people to start.
If they're interested in learning about these, I study companion planning a lot.
I know borage and basil marigolds are all great for tomatoes and cannabis and tomatoes.
I kind of put them in the same category because they're very similar.
Those three are my companion plants.
I use, you've mentioned a few more.
Yeah.
Intercropping is killer.
Yeah.
That's, that's a detest or deter some pests, attract some pests.
It helps you to keep it away from your cannabis plants.
It helps you to avoid these and isolate them that way.
If you ever have to do an avid sec, which is a poisonous, poisonous insecticide, which
you had consumed it, you can maybe use that on something else, but it won't get to your
cannabis plants.
That's something you really don't want to mess with.
One more thing here.
I did have a couple of people around here.
One of the big issues that the outdoor gardens are having are grasshoppers.
Do you have any recommendations for like grasshoppers?
It seems to be something, the one I heard was go out, grab some grasshopper shells,
exoskeletons, soak them in water.
It'll attract the bacteria that break down those exoskeletons.
And then you can make some type of spray with that, which will be concentrated in the bacteria
that break down the shells of the locust or the grasshoppers.
And they'll avoid that because they'll, they can detect it or something.
Do you have any recommendations at all for grasshoppers?
Is that an issue in California?
They're not super bad.
We normally do a pretty decent regiment of like a neem enzymes and then sulfur rotation.
So like they don't really get too aggressive over here.
We end up with a lot of weird fucking bugs.
We get boar beetles, cabbage top beetles, Asian beetles, hemp aphids, rustic mites.
Do you use diatomaceous earth ever for the use of hard shell insects?
No, I don't use diatomaceous earth at all in my garden.
It kills all your soft bodies.
It's a complete microbial wipe.
Exes fiberglass as they move and then works into their bodies and kills them.
I normally will go like, yeah, grasshoppers aren't a huge issue here.
Caterpillars are a bigger issue than anything over here.
A lot of people are like, oh, I got petritis this year.
No, you got caterpillar damage.
I think that's what it comes to, unfortunately.
But there's a few places, I have a few buddies in other states that are like, so we only
get caterpillars around here like once a month.
Like they, the white flies will come in and land on your bud and lay their eggs.
The eggs will hatch and they'll just start eating them like an apple.
But they have a bacteria in their mouth that whenever they touch molds, whenever they eat,
they shit and that turns mold too.
So most of the time if you see your cola and you see that one leaf that's dead and
the coal looks good, that's the only leaf.
Pull that bud open and look and there's probably a little hole and you need to go and get that
dude out of there and cut out that damage or it's just going to take that whole arm.
But they mainly come out about around full moon here.
But I had a buddy that was like, no, we have them consistently.
Like they don't go away.
Like he's like, I can go out to my plant right now and shake it and it's probably like five
on each plant.
We've got acres.
And he's like, we spray for them every fucking week.
It's like they're incredibly aggressive.
But no, the hemp aphids are a pain in the ass too.
Actually the last project I did, I did actually I did 2,500 plants outdoors.
This style, I made all the soil mixes, all the liquid feeds, all the teas, all the IPM
everything.
That was the first year we ran into those fucking aphids and they're a pain in the ass
to get rid of.
Literally, it's the easiest thing in the world to get rid of and nobody even knows it.
So insecticides don't work.
Fungicides don't work.
Oils don't work.
Enzymes don't work.
Sulfur don't work.
Literally the one thing that gets them to fuck off is hard pressure water.
Like you have plants that are eight or nine feet tall.
You're just holding the plant up and just spraying it until you don't see them anymore.
You do that for three days, they go away.
Once they let go, they have a real hard time coming back.
But once they're on the plant, they can lay like they can lay eggs.
I believe it's like eight times a day.
Like they're very, very, very aggressive.
But I straight up took leaves off of plants off of 10 different plants and had 10 different
leaves and tried spraying a bunch of different shit just to see what will kill them.
Not not not a whole lot.
Not a whole lot does it.
That's good to bring in beneficial to help with those then maybe something to to eat
something a little bit bigger to eat them.
Have you ever tried the benefits?
So that's the thing is they like to come in when the ladybug population drops.
So it's just out of out of whack.
The natural control is like you'll see it like we used to have a really, really, really
thick, really nice natural ladybug population.
Like you'd see any plant like Rosen of 150 to 200 plants, like half a mile long, like
for days.
And you'd go to each plant, there'd be like 20 ladybugs per plant.
You're like, damn, just naturally.
But once they all laid their eggs and then disappeared, that's when all the aphids came
in and the babies couldn't do anything about them.
They weren't quick enough.
So you had to get them off the plant so they could actually repopulate.
Gotcha.
So it's about time to take another break here.
We're going to take about five, 10 minutes here.
We'll come back and we're going to jump into how how you can fine tune some of these different
terpenes in the plant to bring them out again.
Also talk about your classes and how people can get onto your discord or how they can
go about learning all this stuff from you.
Sounds good.
Thank you.
We'll be right back.
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All right, we're back again here with Dustin from World's Last Hope and a little bit earlier
we were talking about the terpenes and how to enhance terpenes and specific terpene profiles
is something I was interested in and you said earlier maybe introducing a fruit will help
bring out a fruitier smell.
Could you go into these different smells kind of like you said, myrcine which everybody
knows is that indica or sedating trait or aroma which is kind of like a funky mango
maybe?
That's the-
A little bit.
Yeah.
So the myrcine are the long lasting flavors so if you have any weed that tests like anywhere
between three to five percent myrcine probably very, very, very, very flavorful.
So like Durban Poisons one that would test like four or five percent it was very, very,
very high.
Like the Arcata E32 trainwreck actually the Arcata cut was even louder than the E32.
That one we turned that one into sauce was straight up like you would take a dab of it
and it'd take your breath away.
You'd have you'd be like because it was like I mean even just smelling the jars like it
had so much like ammonia smell to it like it would just take your breath away.
It was insane.
That trainwreck at Arcata, is that a little more on the thin leaf side or more exhilarating
side or more on the hybrid?
That one is just that original trainwreck.
I don't even know what the hell is in it honestly.
It's been around for a very long time and people are actually starting to finally grow
it again but there was a time I remember back in like 2008 around here that somebody had
a trainwreck that they were growing and it pollinated on everybody.
Like there was a few must have been a clone that was going around that everybody grew
because everybody's shit came back the next year.
Everybody was like oh these are some seeds that we found and then it was like 90 percent
everything was trainwrecked.
It was fucking insane.
It's all just like that lemon lime ammonia lemon lime bleach lemon lime ammonia super
super super loud.
But no that thing puts on some weight though like that trainwreck.
You just why they call it trainwreck because you'd be in your room and all of a sudden
everything looks great.
So everything trellised up.
Next day you walk in there and it looks like a train fucking went through it because everything's
everywhere.
You got bugs touching the floor and everything.
She's a dangler for sure.
Yeah we had some at the dispensary I used to work at and I got my hands on a bunch of
seeds and grew it out and it was it was really good.
The one we had had that lemony Lysol smell but also had like a old man breath smell to
it.
Yeah.
Now that train wreck is super dominant.
Same thing with that Durban.
Anything anything has Durban crossed into it.
The seed stock is mainly Durban or it has lots and lots of Durban Durban hints in it
for sure.
Very very very dominant strain.
And so if I wanted to bring out some more of beta karyophylline or do you know anything
that would bring out the peppery beta karyophylline type smell?
Pepper that OHN you can definitely tailor your OHN to bring out just about whatever
you'd like.
And then if there's a certain flavor profile that you like do an experiment see if you
can give it one little slap.
So I feel so everything is built from RNA and DNA.
The more that you're consistently absorbing something the more it becomes part of you.
So if you give it just a little slap at the end it's going to be part of it but it would
have been better if it was in its regiment as it's building itself like completely through
itself.
But yeah just that this is the nicest part about this is trial and error.
Experiment if you if there's certain flavors that you really like.
I mean even just like pine like you were saying.
I have a bunch of buddies around here that grow right near a whole lot of sagebrush and
a whole lot of pine needles and like pine trees.
Their soil is so full of fucking pine needles.
Doesn't matter if they're growing berries citrus not dude it's all got a little bit
of pine hen on it.
Same thing with the sage.
Anything growing around that sagebrush.
Man you can definitely taste it.
It's just like around it then decomposed in the soil slowly just leaching it up through
its entire life.
It's hard not well that's how we got strawberry fields.
That's how we got a lot of the lemon strains orange strains.
They're grown in lemon lemon fields and strawberry fields and orange groves.
Yeah.
So my theory is cannabis is like a chameleon of scents and aromas.
It blends into whatever scent is around it.
If you have it with blackberry like where I'm from people put it in a blackberry thicket
because nobody wants to get in the corn.
So it ends up coming out with a blackberry smell to it.
Well it's all about the climatization in my opinion.
So again like the original OG Kush we have OG Kush SFV OG and Tahoe OG.
They're all genetically the exact same cut.
Climatize different areas.
They're all OG Kush that was given to friends.
One lived in San Fernando Valley one lived in Tahoe after 10 years they grew completely
different started tasting different just from being in new climates being fed differently.
What is the turnaround?
I've heard something around like four generations for a plant to completely change and to adapt
into its new environment and it will be straight.
That makes total sense.
Whenever I get a cut from any dispensary at all I don't know if it's salt fed.
I don't know if it's sprayed.
I don't know if it's been kept under shit light.
I don't know where it comes from.
So most of the time whenever I pick up genetics from anybody even if they're buddies of mine
unless they're growing my style the plants will react differently.
They'll stunt on transplant.
They just won't.
It's like when you take a synthetic clone into an organic medium they go okay well we're
going to sit here because we're so used to being salt fed and then they hit biology they
go this isn't salt.
So they slow down and then literally the biology goes ow we're getting burnt waist deep with
fucking salt.
So it's just they don't really try to mix very well and then that sits there and lacks
but if you have organic clones going into organic medium they don't seem to have that
little like trip up.
But I normally will take a clone from a dispensary and I'll mother it out for almost a year before
I put in production.
I'll literally grow it up clone it grow it up clone it grow it up clone it by the third
to fourth time just like you were saying it starts getting used to how I treat it.
So for instance my Donnie burger my garlic breath my Chem D and I've got one other one
I don't remember off the top of my head but I've had for a good minute now and they are
they're plastic like I can tell when I have you have certain strains that just came in
and certain strains you've had for a while.
All of my older strains dude they're they're plastic.
I don't have to spray them I have to shit to them and there are clones that have I've
had for fuck five seven years but whenever I get anything new if it's worth it it needs
to be mothered and recycled mothered and recycled mothered recycled.
Zalon you were I tried I ask everybody everybody's looking for skunk you we talked about a little
bit ago it's kind of hard to find skunk anywhere.
Do you have any hints on or anything I know it's a sulfur thing and maybe adding some
sulfur maybe overdoing it on the garlic on the natural medicine might might boost those.
You seem to like all the loud loud strains and all the ones you just named were pretty
gassy can be your greasy greasy strains.
Any I do feel like so if you want if you want to make things more sour again the the OHN
really brings a whole lot to the table it really does if you don't have OHN yet are
you learning how to want to learn how to make it get on it because that is something that
is like definitely you're going to use it all the time you're going to use it from the
second those plants hit soil to when you're finishing your crop and it's all the way around
you can just tailor that thing however you'd like whatever strain you'd like.
As first I mean it's probably the hardest one to do that and I am most but at the same
time I walk you through how to do everything and I even hit you up after class to say hey
I'm this is time to add this it's time to add this yeah exactly skunk have not seen
around in a long long time I know there's been several companies that are trying to
recreate it brothers Grimm's got one Kentucky farmers got one there's a few guys trying
to bring it back but actually I found a female that was pretty close in a blueberry pack
which blueberries got all kinds of fucking things I even have a female that was like
very almost like Grinspoon just Calix.
I was thinking even maybe you know hunters have they put skunk urine on them to keep the
animals away maybe some of that and put it into a water base and rooting it putting it
into the roots and drench maybe that you know if if it doesn't burn the plant well most
urea most urine is urea so it's actually a nitrogen source but at the same time the
pheromones off of it could definitely do something with terpene development for sure I believe
a lot of the old school skunk back in the day a lot of the guys back in the 90s a lot
of them were using sulfur burners like consistently too so you were saying the sulfur might have
something to do with it too but yeah that was a big thing back in the day is everybody
be like oh can't get rid of pyromildous we just consistently run a sulfur burner or sulfur
does not kill pyromildew it hides it anywhere it's anywhere it's touching it's cool but
underneath and then the stocks it's not touching it so it's not doing anything it's still right
there.
Interesting interesting so um for all the listeners out there you do offer classes I know you
got one coming up beginning in december like december 2nd or december 3rd um so for example
I want to sign up where would I go to to sign up and how would I get payment done and how
would um I know you got a booklet of material that you give out to would that be just downloaded
could you run us through the process like I'm a newbie and uh sure um so class is december
3rd and 4th it is a 14 to about 20 hour class it is from 8 to 5 post standard time both
days um when you sign up you will actually dm me on either discord or instagram instagram
it's the underscore world's underscore last underscore hope no underscore at the end that
is my stolen account that account will take your money they have no problem taking your
money so make sure you're talking to me I will verify my id so if you hit me up through
this channel you're like hey so I just wanted to verify it's you and I will actually send
you a voice message okay or I will actually just physically call you and show you me because
that person has stolen a lot of money from me unfortunately um but hit me up on instagram
again the world's last hope all underscores no underscore at the end uh discord you can
click my bio on my instagram or you can just go to my discord which is world's last hope
um uh whenever you sign up um I'll add you to a class list of everybody taking the class
I will get your email that way I can send you over paperwork I have a 14 page packet
of everything that we're going to be covering in class are the things that you're going
to be actually making um that is just an outline pretty much it's something that you can look
at while you take notes uh let me send my dogs out real quick something you can look
at while you take notes um again classes start to eight we go from eight to five but in class
you'll learn how to make a fort you'll make 14 inputs but we'll go over about 30 to 35
um I'm here for help after class so if you guys need a complete walkthrough in your gardens
or if you just need me to walk you through a couple of grows or if you have any questions
or want me to see your setups I'm here for help um yeah this is this is the end game
100% again I've been through almost every single nutrient lineup on the carp on the
market every single medium you can think of besides aquaponics and this is this is the
end game this is a great way to build soil but have a complete understanding of what
you're doing why you're doing it what it does to the plant how the plant uptakes it what
it turns into and how they all work together cool uh what what is the price range on this
on this class you're offering so class is $300 per person um if you have a friend that
wants to take it that's an instagram friend or an online friend that they're going to
be having their own screen uh it's 150 dollars per extra person if they're going to be sitting
in in like next to you it's only 50 dollars a person um I do give discounts to students
and veterans it's 50% off um yeah uh so again the class is right around 300 at all 300 dollars
the materials are about 300 dollars but that will if you make the entire list that I give
you that will do a 65 by 35 foot greenhouse three times so it makes a lot of food and
it's about 300 300 dollars to make everything if you're doing it to scale if you have a
smaller garden you message me and tell me your garden size how many plants you're running
and I can help scale it down again even just small mason jars really small mason jars
this will do you like this I have a six light setup mason jars this big will last me a full
run what is the shelf life on something that you make there everything we make lasts over
a year um anything that you keep adding to doesn't go bad so literally like you're making
uh mycelium colonizations putting them into a liquid form and then you're going to be
continually adding to them so year after year they just get better and better your ohn same
thing more herbs and everything you start adding into it and you keep adding to it it
just gets better and better so the only way they die pretty much is if you leave them
alone for like over a year but more than like but more than likely you'll be using them
before that awesome yeah but you end up making a lot of food for a very very very very cheap
it's a cheaper it's cheaper than most one runs for any other company and this is actually
cheaper than most one bottled nutrients I mean I can scale this again I did 2500 plants
outdoors my last project before that it was 7500 and five 100 foot light depths before
that it was 1500 and two auto depths before that it was 600 for depths and outdoor and
we repeated them over over and it was 100 percent this style do you have any information
out there for people that they can just go online and look for your information if they
don't have time to sign up for the class or is there any way they can pay for the booklet
with your recipes or personally I'd love to but I'm so I work too much so I don't have
time to do that personally but I would love to get a get my hands on your recipe book
and try to try to mix around with something so I used to have it available in my bio but
that other account was stealing everything from me so it'll more than likely be available
in my discord or if anybody just needs it just just message me and I'll send you an
email it's not a big deal I actually gave my recipes to the community like four or five
years ago just to be like here you go that is just the basic info though that is like
one fiftieth of the information that we actually go over that's it's just some it's some information
but it's not even close to all of it it's just something to follow along with while
I do my class and gives you an outline and a remembering on how how and what you're trying
to do but it also comes with a feature but I do class one time a month I try to do them
one once a month depending on turnout this month's the third and the fourth but yeah
if anybody wants to DM me Instagram or on discord we'll set it up I will put your link
to the correct Instagram when I upload this it'll have the link in the description so
everybody can hit the link go right to your Instagram we'll get your email there too if
somebody can only do it by email because they don't have an Instagram or something and discourse
new to people so if you don't have a discord account people go out and get a discord account
there's a lot of information out there not just from the world's last hope there's just
tons and tons of people because Instagram and YouTube and these other sites and Facebook
are taking down accounts they're shadow banning people they're scammers out there so best
discord it's a private server it's easier to communicate there I'm going to learn it
Dustin here is going to try to learn it he's available there so look for it world's last
hope on discord and I highly appreciate you coming on the show today and spreading your
knowledge it is great there's people out there not trying to take everybody's money you know
it's a it's a it all started with compassion in California and I want to make sure that
continues and doesn't go straight to a few big large entities controlling everything
like a tobacco or the alcohol that's being sold in the United States right support the
caregivers support the local if you have any questions yep the little farmers unite that's
that's what we need healing the planet my motto is saving the planet one seed at a time
so uh appreciate everybody tuning in uh we will try to have you back one again here pretty
soon Dustin and if anybody has questions you can reach out to me I will reach out to Dustin
myself if you can't get to him and if anybody else is out there has something they want
to say experts in the field of cannabis any part of it and you want to be on the podcast
reach out to me and we'll see what we can do and uh thanks again Dustin and you have
a great day and I'll reach out to you I'm going to try to get that recipe book I'll
check on discord see if I can get it if not I'll be emailing you yeah do it again if anybody's
not making the inputs in class most people end up actually I end up I have about a 30%
return rate of people retaking the class most people either want to make the inputs or take
notes um even the notes are worth it most people walk away with at least 10 to 14 pages
of notes so don't be afraid you guys can totally sneak in the last minute making I'm here for
help I feel like I've tried to help our community and tried to raise the bar so I'm trying to
bring everybody along with me and if you turn around and raise the bar to bring us all along
with us like you know that we just benefit and everybody yeah spread the love people
and we will see you soon and thanks to you man have a good day Dustin you too man peace
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