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Welcome back everyone. I'm here with a new episode and I'm sitting down with
Colorado 710, Matthew Tucker and Christopher Southern.
They're both master techs and they are starting up a new business.
It's all about terpenes.
First of all guys, I want to ask you what got you started into consuming cannabis?
Originally, I guess what started me smoking cannabis was the same thing everybody else was.
Teenager and high school just doing the same thing everybody else was.
Super bored?
Super bored. I grew up in a town outside of a bigger town.
I graduated with one other person.
That is a small town, that's smaller than Moffitt.
Getting real bored.
I'm from a high school, we had a hundred and twenty some in my graduating class.
It was pretty rural.
It was pretty boring, nothing to do.
Kids either drinking or something else getting in trouble.
Everybody knows everything about everybody.
We got a lot of us in trouble.
I found the ones that smoked weed instead of consuming the other drugs are doing ten times better now.
Mentally, physically and family wise, socially.
What about you there Matt? What got you consuming?
I actually started at like fourteen.
I had an aunt that said it was part of my Indian heritage.
She gave me my first rip.
I have ADHD so it's pretty hard for me to calm down and stick to one topic.
That night was the first night I slept in.
I slept past like six o'clock in the morning.
I wanted to eat, I was slow to do my homework.
I wasn't sporadic.
Ever since then I was like, man this is me.
You can sit still.
Yeah, this is what I, I graduated you know.
Forty-seventh out of forty-seven.
But I also had six kids that scored a perfect ACT.
And I mean they were all smart, small school, pay on your Colorado.
And growing up out there you see the best cultivators around.
And they're growing fourteen, thirteen pound plants in their backyard.
So you're both from Colorado.
Yes sir.
How was it before legalization? Was it pretty easy to get weed out here?
You know I remember getting caught at a young age going to like,
everything was medical and everybody had medical postings for their patients and everything.
And I just like, I smelt it and I went over there to my neighbors.
I just saw this first grow of my life and saw these huge plants.
And I just fell in love with them and asked them how they were doing that.
And then you know my family has, my stepdad has black lungs.
So he started growing for medicinal reasons for his lungs and things like that.
What, eating edibles with it or was he smoking it?
Yeah, so at the time we got like the Magic Butter Maker.
And we started making RSO or Phoenix Tears.
And we're just making edibles and stuff like that for him.
And then now he like vapes.
But he's trying to find like those phenols that help him with being able to eat
and the medications that he has to take for being a black lung patient.
And he lost a lot of weight and it helped him not deteriorate
and be able to wake up every day and go do basic mundane tasks.
And he went from being a non-believer in cannabis to being one of the biggest believers
and somebody who coal mined for 23 years wasn't allowed to touch it, couldn't even talk about it.
And now it's, I mean it's what's keeping him alive.
Well I'm from West Virginia. There's a lot of coal miners there too that are still fighting for coal.
And I keep saying that if they would legalize, it would help their lungs out.
They could get jobs in cultivation outdoors above the ground
and somehow use some of that bio waste as fuel instead of using coal.
Yeah and as my stepdad says, you know he spent 23 years ripping up the earth
and now his whole goal is to till it and re-amend it.
Yeah, to fix it. That's what I went to school with was environmental geoscience.
So I know that it's destroying the rivers, the fishing in West Virginia,
which is one of the best resources that we have there is fishing in the water.
And you destroy that from mining and they could be planting cannabis there
which amends the soil which can create thousands of jobs
and it can clean up the state.
Absolutely.
And you guys have seen that here, how it's changed your state since being a native.
How many changes have you seen, Chris, from what's happened as a child to now with cannabis?
I mean as far as everything.
When I was younger, I grew up kind of like seeing it grown and things like that.
My parents weren't always the most legal people, but seeing it as it is now,
it's grown a lot more.
It's grown to the point where you can somewhat cater to the things that you need.
I want to eat more.
There's a lot of people with depression that, especially in a small town where you come from,
it's not a lot to do. There's a lot of depression.
People don't eat. People don't do the right things for themselves.
The right indica is going to give you the right mood high.
The right indica is going to give you the right appetite.
So anywhere from just being able to cater what you want.
I still see that as something that needs a lot of work is being able to cater it.
What is your favorite forms of consumption, guys?
Edibles, smoking?
Extracts.
Extracts, for sure.
Live diamonds, refined diamonds.
Good extracts, good flowers.
Really good flavors. I want to be able to drink that.
I don't want to taste that oil in my mouth. I want it all in my lungs.
Really good, clean extracts. That's all I smoke.
I like the catering part you're talking about. I love strange, specific extracts.
I've been trying to extract my own oils. Preserving the terpenes is one of my biggest concerns,
because I believe that gives you more of that catering you're talking about to your specific needs
at the time of day or your ailment or what you need to get relief from
or what's going to make your day better.
And the terpenes are what change all of that.
And you guys are starting up something special here.
It's all about the terpenes and how you can do what we just explained, like fine tuning.
Can you explain what you're going into right now, guys?
So I guess the idea behind what we're going into is being able to mass produce good quality extract
and also start catering, like you were saying, with the terpenes in a good way
towards whatever it is that you need.
Yeah, I can brush up on that.
For example, people with you have a foot ache and you find that your favorite pheno is chem dog for some reason.
But you don't like the flavor and the taste profile of chem dog.
Well, something in that chem dog is your dose, and that is what's alleviating that pain for whatever you're smoking it for.
But what we're trying to do is break down and figure out why that dose is there,
and then give you a different flavor profile.
If you want Tropicana Banana or if you want garlic gas, we want to give you that same dose and alleviation
that the chem dog gave you because that's why you smoke.
That's why you started smoking to begin with, and that's why you smoke every day and why you're a saturated person.
And we want to be able to give you that dose of why you're smoking,
but allow you the opportunity to play with these different flavors that only come from this plant and that we can only grow from these plants.
They do grow another species in different plants out there, but cannabis is unique for this reason,
and we want to give that playability to the consumer.
Okay, I want to break it back just a hair for some of the listeners out there because some of them don't even know what a terpene is.
Which one of you can actually explain what a terpene is real quick to the new people out there that are still trying to explain things with indica and sativa?
It's super easy to say indica-sativa hybrid.
Real easy. The basic of it is a terpene is an essential oil.
The cannabis plant is full of essential oils and not just THC, not just CBD,
but there are also other chemicals inside that pine comes out of pine trees,
but is also found largely in hemp-produced plants.
You know, that pine smell, things like that.
They're the essential oils that come out of the plant, and those essential oils are also good for consumption in all different ways.
So that's, I guess, the basic of what a terpene is, is just the essential oil from the plant that has really nothing to do with THC or any of the actual cannabinoids.
Yeah, I've heard Ethan Rousseau, PhD, talking about cannabinoids, the endocannabinoid system in terpenes, one of his specialties, and how they interact.
And they come in different ratios, minute amounts, and when you mix them up, it's like mixing up a cologne or perfume, you know?
It's very like a sommelier.
It's like a chemistry lab or something.
Yeah, and this is what we are trying to provide in the industry, is we want to start doing that.
We want to start sommaliering these different terps. We want to start identifying them.
Some of them might not be a smokable term, but if you have a phenyl that is high in that one terpene, when you go to smoke it, you're not going to realize in a concentrate, by definition, we're concentrating.
So when I concentrate something that is a non-smokable term into a concentrate, I'm making a non-smokable concentrate.
And that data isn't out there, and labs don't know that, and that's what we're trying, essentially, to bring awareness to and start pioneering with our lab, is what are these essential oils?
Why are they here, and what do they do?
What are they good for?
Not just smoking. I mean, some of them are ingestible, and only ingestible. Some of them are topical, and they only go on your skin.
And that definition of where they line up is why cannabis users go to the Dispo to begin with.
Somebody is there for a reason, whether it's getting away from their 9-5, or checking out from being a stay-at-home mom, or a single mom, or having pain, or anything.
I mean, there are a plethora of users, and we want to start dialing in why you're a user.
I mean, you need to normalize when you go into a dispensary that you're not just getting THC shoved down your throat. There are other things that are there for you.
So one of the new terms out there to describe cannabis is a chemo bar, instead of saying indica-citiba and hybrid, which still we'll use just because it's what people know.
The terpene profiles, which are on most of the bags, or most of the concentrates, or whatever you buy, you can get a terpene profile.
There is no database, like you said, and when you have a strain, we'll talk about chemdol grown here, chemdol grown in Florida, chemdol grown in West Virginia and other states.
They're all going to have a different chemo bar, meaning their terpene profiles, even if it's the same clone.
So it's going to be really hard to get a database. Exactly. But what you're talking about, like if somebody here, if Area 420 has a harvest, they get that terpene profile, then you can mimic that terpene profile specifically.
You don't have to have a database, right? Yeah. And that's why we came out to Area 420.
This place allowed us for the first time to look at this Napa Valley wine.
We have all these grape and what we call cultivars, and they're going to grow these phenos for the order that the lab needs.
And it starts with the genetic and the seed. And the last thing the lab wants to do is waste time running a thousand pounds to fill an order when a cultivar could have grown something and they could have extracted it with 300 pounds.
And that is where the symbiotic-ness of Area 420 is unfound anywhere in the United States or anywhere that I know of.
And that's why we're here, is we have a plethora of really good cultivars who can take genetics, grow them to the best of their capability, and we can give them the data.
If three farms out here grow the same chem dog and one farm doesn't meet the standard, but two of them blew them out of the water, well, we're not going to tell them, hey, you're a bad grower.
But hey, these two guys over here doing the same method, the same mediums, growing the same system, are doing something different.
And they are willing to mentor you. And the symbiotic-ness of Area 420 is where we as a lab really get to shine.
So with these, as you were saying, the therapeutic part is kind of like aroma therapy, because they all, all these aromas mix in different mixtures.
You can isolate these smells too. And sometimes, like you said, there are different ways of ingesting them. Some of them are going to be with a diffuser. You put them in some kind of diffuser, right?
Can you explain that? My terminology on that is not good, but you can put them in the room. It'll emanate.
You can use them like essential oils and put them in diffusers, kind of like doterra oils, I guess. That would be your aroma therapies.
There are other good, heavier terpenes like humulene, bisbolol. There's things like that.
And bisbolol, I've seen a lot. And while I was working in the CBD industry, bisbolol has a really good effect, what is it, an anti-inflammatory effect.
So a lot of these high, heavy hemp strains where people are saying, the CBD is what's doing it for me, that could be totally wrong.
What if this bisbolol, that gets stuck with it because it's around the same boiling temperature when you collect it, that that bisbolol is also really good in that.
So what if we're giving everybody CBD when we could be giving everybody bisbolol?
But bisbolol has no cannabinoid effect, so it would be using an essential oil topically, ingestibly, however you'd use an essential oil.
Your lighter essential oils, basically you could use those for aroma therapies and things like that. Your limonines and things that boil off.
They smell sweet and they smell, you know, they come off at you. Whereas some of them kind of stick around and they settle heavy.
So they don't kind of come off the plant.
But their chemical compounds are just different, right?
Yeah, it's their gravity. It's literally their actual gravity, it's like their weight.
Some of these turps are fat, little fat guys, and some of them are really skinny.
And when you put them in rotation, the little guys float away and the fat guys stay.
And that's what we call lights and heavies.
Well, it's the idea of chromatography. I mean, if anybody's familiar with the idea of chromatography, long story short, it's you push it through a filter that's very solidified.
And the things that come through first are your lights because they were able to make their way through.
The things that come through after are your mids and your heavies.
Just because the molecule then gets bigger and bigger and bigger, it finds its way through this filter but at a different time.
And so that's kind of our idea. That's the idea of chromatography.
Nice. Yeah, I've heard about it. It wasn't explained at that easy level.
Barney style. Everything is Barney style. Yeah, we try to Barney style it as best we can.
Try to talk to somebody at a bar.
So it's the centrifuge. They come off earlier. We were talking about how volatile some of these turpines are.
That some of them will be emanating from the greenhouse, but once you pick them, they're lost. So it's like you got to catch them fresh.
Absolutely. To get some of those lighter ones that are very volatile.
Yeah, and there are turpines. I mean, that's what you smell when you walk into a flowering room.
When your harvest is in bloom and you go down there and everything that hits your nose and every time you grab a bud and you're smelling your fingers.
Those are those are turpines that are purging at the temperature of your fingers.
And so like at 80 degrees or 90 degrees where your fingers burn, they are actually combusting and they're gone.
And they're gone. The second you smell those, they are gone. And that's we want to refine that.
So you catch it quick. Is there a difference from catching it right as it's picked or is there some drying to it and then or what's the best method of conserving
before you do this method? So I guess the best method I've heard of is really as you pick you then vacuum seal and keep it in a cool place.
Really, it's I mean, you know how you get you get different smelling plants. You have an outside plant and you have an inside plant.
It's that temperature difference, the air and mixture and everything. So I guess the best way to just catch it would be.
Yeah, as soon as you capture your plant, you would you know, just bag it, bag it, keep it until you're ready to blast it.
Ready to do whatever it is you're ready to do with it because you want to lock in those turps.
And the second you cut that plant, your turps are already releasing. So you want to I mean, fresh frozen in the industry,
especially in the lab, whether you're doing rosin or solvents in fresh frozen beats everything.
I mean, it's the terpiest cleanness is right there live. That's why batters is expensive as it is.
That's why rosin is as expensive as it is. Yeah, because the yields aren't there.
Yeah, but it's that flavor. It's that and it's that clarity. It's that quality.
And that's what we're trying to explain is with fractional distillation, refining these turps down,
we can hit that flavor profile and we can hit those marks even at a $15 gram of shatter.
And that's the goal is to really hit this this market with a new quality of what shatter and butter and diamond should be at and really set a new bar.
So we were talking earlier about combusting these and how some of them are volatile and combust at low temperatures and dabbing them.
Yeah. And the best way to dab them would be a cold start. Can you explain that?
Yes. Cold starting. Chris, are you familiar with cold starting? Yeah, cold start.
So when you cold start your dab or you have kind of my favorite way to take dabs is like low temp, very low temps.
You know, I don't mind losing a little bit of the cannabinoid as long as I'm ingesting the good flavors.
So it's a cold start would basically enter your dab and then you you would heat it up.
And as you heat it up, then you cap it and smoke it at a temperature. So like a lower temperature.
It's easier with electronic rig instead of having a torch.
Yeah, the torch method. I mean, you're using a hand torch. You're putting the globe on. So you're going to load your glass with your dab.
And then you're going to put your globe on and then you're going to start torching.
And the second you see any bubble vaporization, you're going to start pulling.
And it's going to give you the cleanest tastiest. And the second you see a bubble, just slow down and pull your lighter off.
Yeah. So most of you guys out there will see people dabbing and they'll take the torch to the head of the reddish.
Get it so red and hot. Wait till it cools down because it's so hot.
But that combustion is so volatile. It's on your lungs. Yeah. It's not it's not good for you.
It makes you cough. No, exactly. And that's what we're trying to also show is there's a difference between a hot hit and a harsh hit.
And like you can take a big hit and cough your face off. But then you can also take a hot hit.
And that's something that wasn't purged correctly. That's something that wasn't.
Make you dab sweat. Yeah, man. Yeah. And it makes you almost just not be able to catch your breath.
Your lungs feel like they're on fire. And that's the difference is the purging.
I mean, being able to take a one gram dab and just cough because it was a big hit and taking the like just a regular quarter gram dab or an eighth gram dab and coughing your face off and running to the bathroom because it's too hot on your lungs.
I mean, that is how you extract. It starts with how they did in the lab.
And that's what we want to clean. That's we want people to be able to take a college streamer or a soccer mom to be able to take a little dab for her dose just so she can make it through practice.
So the biggest thing about this company is all these terpenes are cannabis derived. Correct. Yes.
And this is doing a little loophole and slowing it down just because it is from cannabis.
What is the deal with that? Oh, man.
I just don't like turps from other plants.
I feel like if we're smoking this plant, if I'm going into the disco, I'm going to buy a gram or a distillate card or an edible.
It should be from the plant. It should be from cannabis. It shouldn't be from anything else. There shouldn't be homogenized oil from anything else other than this plant.
And if we can't hit those flavors, it shouldn't be on the shelf.
So you were mentioning also about some legal issues and you got a lawyer working on and so we can get this stuff onto a public, public retail shelf.
I know something similar was in we're talking about Washington with some lotion and it was like a cover something.
Yeah. They went in and gave the local jurisdiction or the state government and presented it correctly.
And it was like there's no reason they couldn't. It's the potential of zero cannabinoids and essential oil that can go into a lotion for general consumers and not have anything else in it.
That can this is what him with everybody in him. And when him came out, this is what they are going to expect.
It should have been when you get a hip lotion and it smells like tropical trees.
Yeah, well, I've had some it's not real turps. It's not real smells.
I've had it on the other side, though, where you get a vape pen at CBD, but it has some rosemary scent or flavor or some other plant in there.
And I was kind of turned off on it. I really wasn't a fan of it. It just wasn't natural to me.
One of the big one is like the watermelon flavors, bubble gum flavors. Like, oh, those aren't real flavors. Those are made up flavors.
Yeah, I think they actually like put too much in there. And it's a really some of them are very strong and they just need very minute amounts when you're talking about these mixtures.
Yeah, I've got these tasty pins before where you smoke these tasty pins and they they taste like, you know, monster energy or something wild, you know, and the hit off of it's harsh, but you don't get that high.
It's hot. It's well, it's hot. Yeah, it's a hot hit, but it's you might be volatizing these can you know these terpenes from different plants, you know, and you're volatizing these in your lungs.
What are you know, we need to stop making the customer guinea pig essentially. Yeah. You know, hey, you know, what's the best flavor? What's the best taste? Like, what's it doing to your lungs? We're not going to find out for another.
I've learned the hard way by smoking tainted weed back in the non flushed.
They didn't flush it.
Or just mold to mildews from brick weed. Reggie's and swag.
Yeah, it tore my lungs off. I would get pneumonia or bronchitis pretty easily. And I have a dab, a nice clean dab will help clean it out. And I'm not a big fan of distillates. I know that when I worked in the dispensary,
people will come in and the first thing I want the strongest THC content and a vape pen that you got best bang for my buck.
I'd be like, oh, all right, this is it. But I wouldn't recommend it. I would recommend this one here with a little bit more flavor and less THC a little more terpene profile.
It's the entourage effect. You want the rest of it with it. You don't just want THC. I mean, some people do, but do they really?
They don't know.
You know, they just want whatever is going to get me the highest. Yeah. Well, it's things that us experienced growers or experienced consumers know.
We're like, yeah, I got this stuff. It's super strong. Don't tell them THC content. Don't tell them what it is. And they'll be like, oh, man, I'm so fucking high off of that, man.
It's a place you like. Haha. That shit was like the 10% CTHC. That was my CBD. But but the terpene profile was like a purple or something. Just made a couch lock and just relax them.
And the purple was everybody knows in the cannabis community is kind of like a great be maybe a diamond tap or like a that's hard to explain.
Very because it varies a little bit. It's everybody knows a purple smell. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And it's kind of relaxing.
Yeah. I hear too. That's that's a big thing, too, is we want to be able to refine those feelings, those memories.
I mean, that's a big thing with smell. It's a link and trigger to your memories and things like that.
And beyond the scope of just buying extracts, I want to know what I'm smoking.
And I want to be nostalgic if I go in there and say I want to start number one, I want to taste it. I want to smell it.
I want to know this is the skunkiest, nastiest smelling dabs I can take because these guys fractionally made it.
And they Chris and I take passion in this because we are consumers and because we don't want anybody else in this industry to not have to smoke something that they don't want to just to get an effect.
We want them to get the effect that they want and still smoke something fruity or terpy or garbage or skunky and give that freedom back to them.
How many different terpenes have you guys discovered or know of yourself in the cannabis plant alone?
There's hundreds. Yeah, I mean, a really good book is the big book of Terps. It shows, I mean, hundreds and hundreds.
And that's what makes this so awesome is we get to catalog and database from some of the best cultivars in the United States out here and some of the best geneticists in this industry.
And we're still looking for the best geneticists. We're still looking for the best growers because our product is a reflection of their hard work.
And we want to pay tribute to that. And when somebody calls us and wants an order for a certain term, we want to know it came from the best female, from the best cultivator to our lab to give our consumer the best experience that they can offer and that we can offer.
So, yeah, one of the biggest things I know from older consumers that they say weed is a little different, stronger now.
But one of the main differences in the older herb is there's a lost skunk. You can't find it in the skunk that everybody wants.
When you find it, let me know. I'll be one of your first customers. Right. After that, it's the pine, pine, pinning, whatever you want to say.
It's kind of lost. It was a very popular terapene before. It's clear minded. It helped with asthma. It cleaned out your lungs, opened up your bronchial tubes.
And I know some people with bad lung issues. Must be 420. Happy 420. They're out here to no hornet area 420.
We'll have to salute to that.
This is Jeff. The pinning, that's one that, like I said, it's kind of lost, antidepressant, and it can help expand the lungs, help you breathe better for asthma.
And that's one reason a lot of people don't smoke is because, oh, my lungs. I can't. The doctor told me.
But the vapes, like you said, vapes at low temps, the vapes don't have as much tar. They actually, if the right terapene profiles there will expand your lungs.
Too much will make you cough like a dog and you don't want that. But at the low quantity, because it's a very strong terapene.
It's refinement. Yeah, absolutely. You don't want to give them a heavy dose. And it's different for every asthma patient.
You know, coming out of the CBD, CBG, CBN industry with Chris and refining and doing these distillations, you really appreciate the people that are banking on this product working.
And like Chris pointed out earlier, somebody might be smoking a strain or taking something and realizing a turp is the reason why it's helping them. And unless a database is there or a company is there to start formulating that and say, hey, maybe we should look away from the THC or the CBG or CBN and start looking at the oils.
Because Holistics, India, I mean, Thailand, they use essential oils every day practices and every day life and they work for certain reasons.
And that's all we're trying to do is say the cannabis plant has these same essential oils. We want to make sure we know what they're for and the consumer who needs it gets it.
I want to actually go out and get a diffuser. And if you guys got any some good pinning or any good turps to trust out, let me know.
Oh, absolutely. Beta-karyophylline and humaline, which I think is actually like an alpha-karyophylline. They're related. Somehow they have a, they're very similar in structure.
So the...Karyophylline comes in a lot of THC, Epsidrived. It's what they teach drug dogs to sniff out. And that's why they sniff it out. That's the main turp in every cannabis plant is that karyophylline.
But it comes also in like hops, which is like the only other plant in the cannabis family or something. And then there's pepper, black pepper.
Yeah, I got this strain here. See if you can smell the black pepper in that hash plant right there. That's the strongest hat. That's my favorite. You can break it up a little bit too.
Oh man, it has like a funky...
It's like sour cheese.
Yeah.
Like sour milk and some black pepper.
There's some black pepper in there.
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Alright guys we're back after a little break. We were talking about pinning karyophylline and how they are medically beneficial and how that karyophylline and humaline are somehow combined together and then they're very good for pain and good for gastrointestinal issues.
I've heard that from Ethan Russo and he is one of the leaders in the terpenes and endocannabinoid system so I listen to what he says and I want to try the aroma therapy with those sometime in the future to see how that works.
Your company is strictly cannabis turps and there's an issue trying to get the cannabis turps onto a legal market that's not cannabis related like lotions and perfumes and you were mentioning something about moving it to perfumes and use with cannabis terpene.
Yeah the idea is that we would just be able to move turps into the legal market because currently you're not able to sell them outside of a marijuana facility.
We can get it out even to like air fresheners in your car, you can have some limonene or some beta karyophylline and not have to consume THC and that way you don't have to worry about still have your favorite smell.
Yeah you can still have your favorite smells, tastes, flavors. It doesn't have to have THC in it which I feel like that should be kind of more normalized.
What if some people just don't want to get that high but they still want their feelings of their same kind of euphoria.
It gets your nostalgic feelings from the past. I know that, I probably had a great skunk or something and just smelled it.
I'm like oh man I think of that memories. So basically it is taking the smell of cannabis and putting it in a bottle right? That's what everybody growing up, you can take that smell and put it in a bottle man.
Yeah you're Cush Cologne. Yeah, yeah. So you're actually doing it right? Yeah that's what we're looking into is trying to get it into the legal markets where it's able to transfer because it doesn't have any THC in it.
You can, you can put THC in it and things like that. But I mean we'll also be operating on the THC front as well. But yeah there's a lot of things you can do with terpenes.
Yeah you mentioned that in India they are using it for aromatherapy but they actually use it in America too. That's airplanes, lavender. You mentioned Leninolol was the one from that.
Yeah Leninolol from like lavender, you get that out of cannabis as well. So they'll put it out in the air vents on the plane, calm people down. Limonene they'll put it out around noon in the office building. People are getting drowsy.
That kind of gives them a little pep in the middle of the daytime. Yeah a little eucalyptus that'll kind of give you a pep. And people don't know this they fall for it really easily. But if you know about it then you know what they're doing. You can smell it in the air.
Yeah yeah absolutely. And yeah I'd love the idea and so we were also talking about your database or database however you want to say it. There is, you can do it specific to a client.
They have a great batch that was awesome. They want to repeat that and they're growing the same clones but the next batch isn't as good. Maybe they had a water failure or something.
Yeah yeah so essentially you'd be able to save kind of people you know in a collective. Where like in a normal business you know you get some shitty weed you don't sell it.
But it's not necessarily you know shitty weed. But like you get something that's you know that plant didn't grow exactly the same as everything else. You can still kind of save it with the collective of the rest of the terms.
You can still extract for what is left on that plant and then just you know add in for with the terms and things.
Yeah that's great on a medical benefit. That way you can keep it consistent if somebody likes it medically. It gives them good relief then they could get that consistently consistently consistently.
That's something really hard on pharmaceutical market is keeping it consistent when it comes from a plant.
Yeah absolutely if you could find like the consistent terpenes like the terpene profiles and I think that's one thing that we're able to achieve out here at Area 420.
It's like it's a small it's a large collective really of like very high class knowledgeable growers and geneticists and you know I think this actually I think it has a really good chance of work.
And if that's the case then we'll be there to catalog terpene profiles and things like that. We'll be able to have we'll be able to have the access to like store the knowledge.
So that'd be great. You have a so you're going to have a cultivar which people want to repeat consistently. It's not consistent. You can save them.
But also if they're trying to get that same profile as the breeders cut that Chemdol 91 and a lot of people like you can have the breeders cut and have a profile for them that all other breeders can base their grow off of right.
And then if it doesn't meet the standards you can extract it make it consistently like you want all the time. Yeah absolutely.
So it's like essentially setting up kind of a collective of grows that can like yeah essentially be saved if something happens. It's a collective right.
We're all in this together so like you want to you know you want to boost your you know neighbor up because they have like a good you know they're good geneticists and they're good people.
So we all deserve a chance to learn more and things like that. Yeah it's a it's it's a great community here.
I like to share that compassion based knowledge based. Everybody's into it to very passionate about what they're doing here and I'm glad I found it and being able to be a part of it myself.
Looking forward to a lot of things in the future from you here working out a deal with getting some terpenes so I can enhance my life and try to experiment with myself without using THC because I mean if I can get away from it I don't want to smoke or consume as much as I do you know.
I mean if it feels better you just know the cocktail of what's going to help. Yep I want to fine tune it. Like you said fine tune it to my specific needs get that oomph in the middle of the day when I don't want to take a nap or when I do want to take a nap.
Yeah absolutely. I know that perfect terpene profile that's where the future of cannabis is headed to is the chemo bars and finding that mixture of what does what in aromatherapy.
Aromatherapy effects of cannabis. Yeah absolutely. So many good like benefits to terps. You know they range in all different directions and if you can add that with THC you know more the merrier.
You want to add that. Other can have an ointment too. CBN CBG whatever can have an ointment makes you feel best. Yeah like I was saying you got to like normalize not going into a you know dispenser looking for the highest THC content because maybe that's not what you're looking for.
You know the terpene's provide that entourage effect and you find some good weeds they don't taste the same they don't feel the same. You can like put those into good use.
Yeah. Hey so I highly appreciate you coming on the show today. There's a little party going on out here. We're going to go out and motivate and mingle a little bit and once your operation gets up and running we'll have you on again so you can talk about it a little bit more in depth without being a little rushed.
No I feel you. Yeah a lot to talk about terps man. It was good to talk to you.