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Alright guys, I'm here with a special guest.

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I'm here with Brett from Heart and Soil.

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Welcome back to Re-Further, Re-Further podcast where we reference cannabis and cannabis usage

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and proper ways to consume it.

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So thanks for coming on Brett.

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Thank you.

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Thanks for having me.

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And I really didn't have to go anywhere.

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You bring the studio wherever you go so that's awesome.

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Yeah I try to make it easy and as comfortable as possible and just have a conversation like

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we're just hanging out.

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Yeah and it was about time you come and check out the garden.

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We'll do that after this and just have you out here.

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We've hooked up at a lot of different events and gotten to know each other so it's cool

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to come here.

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Yeah we actually met at the Growcast Rocky Mountain Chapter get together up here.

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That's the first time we met.

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It was the Yuma coffee joint or actually no, it was at the Adams Farmers Market.

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Shout out to Adams for his little farmers market and then you told me about the Growcast

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and we met up there and shout out to Growcast for setting that up and all the people that

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show up to Growcast Rocky Mountain Chapter get together.

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We're going to have another one on the 30th.

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It's what 6 to 9 pm I think.

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Yeah 6 to 9 pm at the Yuma at the coffee joint.

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Yeah with Takin' Tops Cannabis.

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Takin' Tops, I'm pretty sure Matt from BrainStrap and Area 120 will be there.

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Exactly.

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Farmer John will be there.

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Internal Equinox.

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Yeah Internal Equinox will be there.

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There will be a bunch of people there.

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If you're in the area in Denver.

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Yeah definitely a place to come up and meet up some new breeders or if you have any questions

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or if you want to find out what Growcast is about I'm sure he would love to spit it out

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and let you know what's happening.

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It's a great little forum where you can learn a lot of Grow tips on Discord correct?

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Yeah and that's where I like.

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Jordan and Growcast and the Growcast family has been really great to me and I started

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my Discord because of Jordan's encouragement and it's really been like he brought me onto

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the podcast and the whole community.

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I met you, we met Takin' Tops I think through there but basically it's a real community

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people doing cannabis work throughout the country.

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Yeah I like the mojo, everybody's pretty laid back.

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Yeah everybody's laid back.

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Nobody's got ego tripping.

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Yeah exactly it's a place for learning and proper communication and collaboration and

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yeah so it's you know it isn't the Growcast show but that's how we met you know and you

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really impressed me just by how much you know once we met you're like yeah these are the

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things I want to do and you've really like jumped into it and like started doing it and

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you know doing your podcast, getting entrenched in the community.

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I see all the events.

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That's really what it takes I feel like you know in this.

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Yeah boots on the ground.

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Boots on the ground being a part of the community and I've just myself started you know doing

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some of that in the last year and that's like where I met people like you and Tops and like

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all these people.

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Yeah I like everybody's initiative.

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They're all go-gators.

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Nobody's sitting around waiting for somebody else to take care of them.

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Exactly.

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They're out there helping spread the knowledge and asking questions and learning at the same

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time.

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Exactly I'm constantly learning from a lot of these people and we went to the Queen of

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the Sun and Growcast.

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Oh you were there?

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Yeah it was the Living Soil class.

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In the Living Soil class which was fantastic.

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You think you know something about living soil and then you go to a class like that

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you're like damn there's so many things I don't know and you know IMO you know IMO

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1, 2, 3 all these different you know ferments you know that you know people like Miles are

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doing.

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There you know it's a lot of things that like you know you thought you knew about but

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really you know when you put it into practice there's so many different applications and

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so many things to learn.

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It's just infinite.

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Yeah you never stop learning something new every day.

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You can't meet enough new people and you know even though you think you know I know enough

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you know I got enough knowledge you know there's always more that you can add to your repertoire.

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With more research there's always something coming out every day.

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Oh my gosh I didn't know that.

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And now that we can actually do a lot of these things and do more research they're finding

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out more things that they didn't know before.

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One thing that drew me to you also was you had one of the most over the top living soil

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concepts and you got all the little critters in there and it's kind of where I want to

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move into and it's very interesting and you grow your own food and vegetables too.

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So it's not just all about the cannabis it's about your overall health taking care of yourself.

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And just being self-sustaining and like doing it you know on the low on the cheap you know

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and finding the best ways to make use of what you have and turning something into nothing

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that's always been my saying you know.

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I turned you know you could turn this soil which is you know when you separate it it's

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nothing it's worthless.

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You put it together you give it time you give it love you give it some a few critters doing

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some work for you give it some water get some light magic happens you know.

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And it's pretty cool like I said to be able to grow you know cannabis the seeds grow the

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business you know grew hundreds of pounds of food you know that and that I'll show you

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this little you know little square you know garden back here you know.

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It's like I call the I call people like us producers and not reducers.

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There's a lot of reducers out there consume and we're trying to produce something.

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Givers and takers right.

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And the same concept.

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We want to like give give more than we take you know and leave leave more than we take

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you know not just like daily and like with you know food and but like in life you know

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it's like hopefully when we're gone like we've given more to this world than we've taken

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you know that's I think that's why we've vibed and like why people the GrowCast community

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and people link up we just catch vibes because we want to we want to do we love for a living

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but also give back to this community that's given us so much.

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That's my that's my goal is to educate especially if you're on the East Coast we're pretty I

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don't know we're oblivious to what's going on out of this state because we've been around

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cannabis and it's been legal so long here that it's normal it's like nothing to us but

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we go back East where people are living in a place where still illegal.

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They're on a hush and they're still asking questions they don't know because people are

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still intimidated to talk about it even if I talk about it that my job might hear then

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I might get a random piss test then I might lose my job.

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Yeah exactly yeah and there's even people you know don't want to like posts or you know

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follow you know different things or you know you know discord is a place where you know

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you can really tap into community kind of kind of have a little bit of anonymity.

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Yeah but it's not to the public.

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It's not so public and you can put your you know whatever name you want in there and stuff

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like that which is like kind of like a new thing for me but yeah you're right like you

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know there's a lot of people out there that don't you're scared to ask questions and they're

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scared to post pictures or do anything like that.

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And even if they've been consuming for 20 years there's so much technology so many new

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extracts coming out every day that they can't keep up it's hard for us to keep up when we're

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right in the mix of it.

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Right yeah and so it's I think it's important to ask questions and educate yourself and you

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know educate others you know in person too because a lot of this you know a lot of these

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you know conversations they're not had online.

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I mean you know I'll get the dog.

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The dog's cute chair staring out at the dog.

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The dog's hanging out.

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They're just hanging out.

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Yeah some good dogs.

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Oh yeah they're awesome.

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See yeah.

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But yeah I know that kind of we kind of sidetracked.

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I know you kind of had a plan.

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Usually when I start out I ask people usually how they got involved in cannabis.

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When did you first consume and how because you're doing this it's obviously had a strong

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hold on your life and influenced your life in some way.

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So how did it come to you and how did you find out it was something that helped you

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and that you wanted to involve in your life.

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You know like I think you know just like most kids I was just curious like what you know

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what this stuff was I'd seen you know some of my cousins or you know other people like

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you know they had you know like you know smoked and you know I was like oh what's.

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Well first of all where are you from.

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I'm from Texas.

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Texas all right so that makes a big difference because it's illegal there and like it's harder

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you know how many other people consumed around you.

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Yeah in Texas it's like definitely like black sheep scenario you know me and like you know

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three or four of my friends you know we're like we I forget who got it you know it wasn't

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me.

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We got it we like went in the backyard like smoked like this little pipe you know and

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just like you know put it in there and smoked it.

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It was like the first time I don't even know if we even like we didn't I didn't know if

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we got high you know we got caught by my buddy's mom and like she and she smoked.

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We later found out but she was like she was pissed you know and like and she was like

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you guys can't do that here and blah blah blah blah.

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But like then we like the next place we did it was like the golf course like well nobody

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can nobody's going to catch us here and that's when we got it you know you know actually

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got high for the first time and you know it was like you know for it was just fun you

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know it was like exploring the new new world and it's like a new just new experiences and

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and you know exploring it's like you know later on it was like mushrooms you know it

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was like experiencing the world in a new way you know it's like just taking a walk was

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different on you know smoking or you know riding a bike or whatever.

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So it was like it kind of made it made it you know just a little bit more fun a little

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bit more enjoyable.

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Obviously didn't have too many pains at that time you know I didn't have like a pretty

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good you know pretty good home life so I didn't have like anything to escape from it was just

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more for enjoyment you know and loving and experiencing life in a new way and there's

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so much like a little more brightness you know the sun shines a little brighter when

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you when you got a little buzzed to you.

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It does make you a little more in tune with nature in my mind a lot of people say the

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same thing we did a lot a lot of time in nature with cannabis and that's like kind of where

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we went you know on hikes and like in bike you know bike rides because that's like you

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know you couldn't it was getting away you know no one's gonna like it's it's now that's

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where you go it's like in the woods to smoke your weed you know it's because like yeah

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I'm from West Virginia so it's all woods there and we were from a small town it was really

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boring or go to the fields or go to the back roads or whatever when you got older like

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cruising the back roads of the car we rode bikes and it was definitely we would just

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go for hikes yeah miles and miles in the woods yeah yeah so you know it was it was like all

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fun you know at first and then you know I mean it just became normal you know I was

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smoking you know high school smoking you know almost on the daily you know.

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Did it help you with studies at all or did it make you more interested in certain aspects

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of life?

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I don't know it made me interested in like you know it more in nature you know and like

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you know I really wanted to know how this plant was grown like I tried to grow one time

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in the backyard and you know and my mom I think like you know I was so you know I was

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so bad at like getting away with stuff I got caught like all the time you know and like

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I let you know I planted some seeds in the backyard but I left some of the bag of weed

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like with a feed that seems like right on the windowsill outside so she like found it

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like saw the little holes like you trying to plant weed back in my backyard you know

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so but like you know I was just really curious about like how this I'd never seen a weed

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plant in my life.

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Yeah I was very curious too my first one.

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How does this bud happen you know and like the first time.

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There was no information at that time.

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No information at all yeah yeah.

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Well how actually what year was it because I grew up in high school it was 92 93 and

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there really wasn't internet to search.

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Yeah oh yeah oh six oh six was when I was when I graduated.

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There was a little more internet a little bit more information out there.

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If you wanted to but like you know you can also search your browser history too it's

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like if you're searching cannabis and they still can you know if you're searching whatever

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they can find out what you've been searching so like I didn't search cannabis stuff online

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like you know I'm too scared you know it's like whatever information was out there you

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know it was like from the guy I bought it from or like that was about it.

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So around that time what I actually wasn't even in the country at that time I was living

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in Spain and I was smoking hash the whole time.

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I really didn't have access to cannabis.

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Yeah there was like no hash here you know.

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I had never even.

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But in Texas at the time would you have chronic was it chronic and like mids or.

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So you know you had like.

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Reggie's.

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You had swag you know you had some like kind you know kind bud that was probably like you

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know either outdoor or greenhouse or really mediocre grown indoor and then you had like

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what we call a dro.

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Dro yeah.

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Like hydro like hydro was like the best you know out there you know that was like the

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you know it was like the frostiest the best you know later to find out you know like now

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as like a organic grower it's like the exact opposite now it's like you know the salts

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the bids you know or salts in the beds you know and like the you know the organic stuff

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is more you know the top choice for me personally.

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It's evolved a little bit.

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But it's like yeah it's evolved a little bit and you know still it's still you know you

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know you can't deny some of the you know T.C. content like the you know the pictures the

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beauty of just you know hydro you know and you're just you know salt fed nutrients like

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yeah I talked to if you're if you're a grown if you're growing weed in any capacity we're

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on the same team like no no salts first organics you know battle here for me you know growing

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I support you.

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Yeah exactly exactly battles on how you do it the way that I just decided to do it.

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But yeah it's like you know as a kid it was just more for you know for fun and I saw like

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the business aspect of it also you know got into dabbling in that aspect of it in high

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school and then I got you know luckily got kind of so I knew that I knew that people

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somebody knew that was it was bad you know somebody knew that shouldn't have known what

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I was doing and they let me know that they knew and that I needed to cut it out because

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you know it was a hand out lucky so I got lucky and I got out when you know at the right

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time I went to college and then I ended up fracturing my lower back my L1 L2 bulging

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disc I got a really bad spinal injury and you know I was smoking all before that but

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like that's when like cannabis really came into play for me you know as like a healing

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agent you know before I was just like get my mind right you know I was you know I used

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it because I was like really high high strong I had like anger issues in high school so

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I got smoked for that but like you know with you know when I had pain there was always

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you know when you took like a hydrocodone or something that wasn't that wasn't helping

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the pain for me it was just getting me high personally you know I mean hydrocodone it's

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like and things like that like you know they just they don't you know they don't cure my

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my back pain you know I've never made this block them they just kind of block block the

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pain and yeah not even for me it's like I still felt the pain I was just high and it

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made my back hurt and then when I when I wears off the pain is even worse yeah yeah yeah

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so like but if the you know with cannabis you know it really helped with inflammation

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did were you consuming edibles or were you smoking yeah I was just smoking yeah and

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there was there was there were no dabs at that time so there were some old school has

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closest thing to dabs was like the knife hits you know or like Keith you know you get like

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your teeth and you press your teeth and then you take like a knife hit or like a gravity

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bong hit of your teeth you know that was like the closest thing to the bottom of your grinder

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it's like a dab yeah exactly exactly so so during this time did you have any issues like

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have you ever ended up in bad predicaments or any kind of like yeah rested in jail yeah

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I was like you know get beat up and all my gunpoint types deals because you know it was

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kind of dangerous back yeah I mean you know those those things you know of all happened

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unfortunately you know including the getting beat up part that wasn't necessarily over

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cannabis but like there's always cannabis involved but like you know we were that was

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just a bad you know protecting somebody that was getting jumped and then I got jumped

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right along with so sorry about that we had a little technical issue the recording stop

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and Brett was talking about how he got jumped but uh it was always alcohol involved or something

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yeah alcohol or meth or coke or steroids or like you know the whole gamut of kind of like

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the aggressive type of drugs you know where you know cannabis was always like you know

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much more chill and like it was obvious when you went to a party that was just like cannabis

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smokers like everyone's just having a good time chilling just never fights and anything

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like that but when you got all kinds of other things involved you know it could like it

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goes south pretty quick yeah I think alcohol is the catalyst for much of those yeah and

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that's usually the first question I ask is alcohol involved and then it leads to other

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drugs it leads to other things and then craziness ensues so yeah I just I saw it really that

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was like you know kind of path I wanted to go just like the more natural route you know

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in terms of you know my my extracurricular activities you know but you know I was always

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you know seen as like you know the guy the smoker like you know the pothead or whatever

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even though it was like you know playing sports and doing all that kind of stuff and excelling

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in those things you know you know the coaches you know would you know kind of treat me a

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little differently or yeah I mean they to be fair you know in Texas it's super illegal

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and at any point if I'm involved in that stuff I could I could you know go go to jail and

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they didn't want to you know mess with that so like you know it was obvious that like

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certain certain people didn't want me hanging around their kids or like certain kids didn't

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want me hanging around because they were scared yeah I had parents who didn't want me hanging

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out with their kids they were my best friends but we couldn't hang out because I was the

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troublemaker and I and I get it and I completely understand you know but now it's like one

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of those things we were talking about there's you know those same people you know that like

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shunned you or whatever you know asking you advice on like strains and stuff like that

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or wanting to buy seeds or you know or whatever or they're just wanting to know what CBD or

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what do you recommend CBD is the biggest one or my arthritis or sleep or pain and what

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do you recommend I'm tired of opiates and yeah and I'm happy to help them yeah I'm

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all about that's what the podcast for that's why we're here and that's one thing I like

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about the community like we were talking about earlier we're all about that positivity and

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teaching and helping other people's get involved instead of having egos and yeah yeah just

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be like oh I've been in the game for however many years you have a disagreement with the

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way I grow that I don't want to talk to you and I respect the time you know and like yeah

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in the and doing things you know you know a lot of people like said been in it for a

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long time but like I think we should welcome more people into the fold not keep people

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out you know and put up walls I think we should like build a bigger table not a bigger wall

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you know it's like I don't know so yeah I think you know like what you're doing is important

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like educating people and like showing that like people that normalizing yeah maybe have

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been using canvas their whole lives you know they're even though it was illegal you know

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it doesn't make them a bad person you know there's you know people you know all right

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a lot of people are in it for you know different reasons you know they really are a lot of

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people in it just to heal you know heal themselves heal you know the planet you know and you

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know I'm trying to do you know everything I can to do it you know as natural as I can

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to give respect to the back to the planet and to the plant you know it's it's more

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than just about cannabis and getting high now it definitely has a symbiotic relationship

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with the human body with the endocannabinoid system and the phyto cannabinoids how they

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replenish the the ones missing in your body and help with autoimmune it's wild that we

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already have receptors and or makes people feel better yeah exactly exactly so yeah it's

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a you know so you never been arrested I've been really close but I have been I can't

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remember if we hit on this after the little microphone I've been arrested a couple times

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you know but you know once once for cannabis possession but the other times it was like

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now I was stealing beer out of someone's garage and like got hit with a felony you know and

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you know then I failed the drug test while I was on that you know probation and then

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that kind of you know I had to go like another two years of probation and like doing all

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the so it's like I definitely got hit you know and I you know and I went to like I said

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I went to jail just overnight for cannabis possession got out the next day so like nothing

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like you know yeah where I was from West Virginia to slap on the wrist for like under a half

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an hour I got lucky it was I only got caught from possession you know and I wasn't involved

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in some of the other bigger bigger things that happen to people unfortunately so if

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we also discussed the edibles how you were hypersensitive to edibles and to me I eat

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a large quantity edibles sometimes they give me energy but you avoid the edibles I avoid

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the edibles and like yeah some people swear by I used to know people that would like eat

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edibles for breakfast literally and like go to work and like do great you know not me

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you know I do like the tenders there right I mean I prefer the tinctures over the edibles

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because they you know they don't get down to the stomach and you actually absorb them

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you know whereas like the edibles are kind of like it's fun because it's like candy or

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like whatever like all of a sudden you're high you know but for me like when I'm eating

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either the tincture or the edible like during the day I just get like super really like

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super tired or lethargic excuse me you know and it just it doesn't make for a productive

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day for me typically same with like a lot of different flour unless it's a sativa but

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with dabs I feel like even like even slightly in indica and I try to you know go with sativa

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dominant or you know you know hybrids or whatever but even if it's like slightly indica like

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I feel like I take a dab and just get to work and do everything yeah I was talking earlier

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and about rolling a joint it's like a little ritual it takes a little time to prep it up

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so it's not the most efficient thing then the first thing in the morning right exactly

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yeah one and to be fair my my office is like right over there you know it's not too far

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away you know but I do have other things I have to do you know I do you know most of

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the picking up dropping off of the kids and like you know meals and stuff like that so

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I'm running around doing all kinds of stuff you know during the day so I get a lot of

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my work done the first like two to three hours a day between like five and you know 8 a.m.

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or something yeah I do too the gardeners usually get up early and I'm up five o'clock and knock

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it out usually by 12 I'm done I'm ready to take a little nap exactly I'm ready for get

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up and do the same thing in the evening yeah sometimes I will if I can squeeze in a nap

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I'll get an hour or two nap in and rock it up I lived in Spain where we take part of

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siesta it's a daily thing so I'm used to it get up do a bunch of stuff take a little nap

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get up repeat the process yeah that's awesome but yeah it's about time to take a little

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break here and then we're going to come back and talk about some other things about the

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phenol hunting what we look for in our in our strains what we look for in a in a breeding

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male and a couple of other things and we'll be right back sounds good would you like to

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grow your own cannabis at home are you able to now because it's legal in your state are

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you intimidated by the prices of seeds and worry if you can't even get the seeds to

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germinate are you worried it may be a waste of money and time to even try this is how

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I felt when I first started growing for myself hundreds of dollars were spent and wasted

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because of my inexperience some of them got overwatered some of them were burnt by hot

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soil some didn't have the right environment and conditions to survive this is the case

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and you are hesitating to purchase seeds for a limited time little farmer is offering

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that this is a great way to get a lot of seeds without having to spend a lot of money this

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is a great chance for all those who are intimidated by the prices and don't have to worry about

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failing on their first attempt for germination this is also a great opportunity to see what

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goes well in your environment as we all know some strains will grow better in different

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regions due to the climate and you will be able to see what thrives in your area with

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the variety that you will receive these packs are good for experienced growers as well as

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I have received nothing but great feedback thus far some strains included consist of

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blue dream gelato gelato cake vanilla haze head smack green crack purple headband granddaddy

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to get your hands on these packs you will need to head over to little farmer website

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for your herb a lighter and two handy tools to help you prepare your herbs and your hash

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my favorite thing about the box is the tray that you can use to break up your herb while

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preparing it for consumption it is hard to spill and easy to clean up I don't travel

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anywhere without mine finally if you need any consulting for your home growing needs

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please contact little farmer from his website's contact us page by leaving a message we can

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help you with your lighting growing mediums and other growing questions because I not

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only sell seed but I'll help you grow them too make sure to take advantage of these seed

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prices while they last because it won't last long and now back to the show alright guys

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we're back from a little break there and we had to smoke a little blunt and get our

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head straight so we're going to come back and we're going to talk about Fino hunting

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and what we look for in our breeding and what we breed for and what we look for in a male

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and then talk about some of the seeds we have available online so what are you doing right

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now you are going through a Fino hunt at this so we went through a big Fino hunt the skunk

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hunt over the last year and a half we started popping seeds a while back and we found 12

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different phenos of 70 different strains and narrowed it down to about 12 different phenotypes

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how many seeds did you pop all together a couple hundred so you popped a couple hundred

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and narrowed it down to 12 exactly and there's a bunch of different skunks in there I wouldn't

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say RKS roadkill skunk that's what we were searching for and we didn't find that exact

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terpene profile but in the hunt we found a lot of winners and a lot of raunchy stuff

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trash can juices and real you know string called bigfoot stick if you guys have been

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following along at all you know you've seen that one in the intergalactic encounter it's

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been selling out I'm not selling out but it's been selling very quickly and just you know

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some really raunchy strains what are some other ones so just to let the people know

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for this specific phenohunt what you're searching for is a specific aroma smell a terpene so

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yes let me rewind a little bit because I'm on the same hunt I've tried it's a big topic

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now so there's a big topic now is you know the roadkill skunk you know is it alive I

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mean is it still around you know is it you know still you know to be found and you know

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a lot of people said you know it's gone forever you know it's you know or you know or you

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know it's it's I have the real you know cut or whatever you know there's a big discussion

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right now and I was like well let's see what there is to find you know let me just to hunt

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you know skunk number one let me hunt you know a bunch of these other skunk you know

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things labeled as skunk and see if we find skunk turps and I popped a lot of packs labeled

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skunk some that weren't labeled skunk some that were just like Afghan Thai hybrids or

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like you know different land races or heirlooms that I thought maybe could have you know some

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skunk terpenes and you know I think the you know that you know that hunt taught me a lot

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about you know just being a hunting in general and especially like when you're hunting for

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a certain terpene you know I hunt for a lot of things at once you know you know not just

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one terpene but you hunt for one terpene if you're just hunting for the terpene you really

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are just doing that you got to put a lot of other things kind of like out out of your

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scope you know you got to really dial in on just the terpenes well if you do that you

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there's gonna be chinks in the armor along the way and I think you know we were talking

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about this before when we weren't recording it's like the true skunk hunt you know when

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you hunt through some of that really skunky stuff you find herbs you know a lot of that

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stuff is just sexually unstable well I think it was originally a mix of like well it was

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a mix of some land races a Mexican Thai or Colombian and an Afghan but some of those

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Thai land races especially the sativas are pretty prone to herming into and just in general

426
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,520
like you know you know a lot of them were like bag seats you know and you know they

427
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:47,040
weren't like a lot of them weren't being like you know cloned or or properly they were selectively

428
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:51,480
bred so like it was like whatever was in the bag a lot of times yeah so a lot of people

429
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,760
don't know I know this and you know this if you find a bag seed normally it's because

430
00:30:55,760 --> 00:31:00,760
it hermed or it got cross pollinated but if it's on a commercial scale and they got all

431
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:06,080
one strain normally it's going to be germinated by itself which is from a hermy and there's

432
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:11,240
a lot of unstable strains that you'll get on the on the market or in a bag and nine

433
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:17,400
times out of ten it's going to be from a herm and those are going to be susceptible to be

434
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:22,520
in hermies too because it's a trait that passes down exactly so you know in that skunk

435
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:28,560
cut that was a big you know barrier we had to like you know kind of weed our way through

436
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,520
like select you know obviously kill anything that showed sexual instability we wanted to

437
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:38,640
do a breeding project with the vaulted skunk but the male ended up shooting pistols like

438
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,320
it was shooting not it was you know I fully know that's great ready to pop and then it

439
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:48,520
popped pollen and along with the pollen sack opening pistols started coming out and I'm

440
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:53,040
like well shit the hairs you know so I'm like I don't want to breed with this you know because

441
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:57,720
you know obviously you know the male is like where a lot of you know the I saw that the

442
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:03,440
last round backbone of the line come and I had to throw those out yeah so that was unfortunate

443
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:09,360
but you know we obviously killed all the males but like we ran a big phenol and you know

444
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,880
that was you know so that was so there's other things involved too like the structure you

445
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:20,360
know I want to plant that correct has no branching and barely any root stalk and the stem small

446
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:25,000
but it smells great yeah yeah I mean it correct you might like a lot of you know it's not

447
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,000
really something if you're going to be for breeding you're not going to want to do that

448
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,760
because those root zones if they don't grow and clone right so the ones that we yeah the

449
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:38,920
ones that we selected you know have the raunchiest turps in the mix that were stable and checked

450
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:44,520
a lot of boxes if not all the boxes for us you know and some of the things that we kept

451
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:49,580
weren't necessarily skunky like the Raymond skunk 91 since he's gone if you've smelled

452
00:32:49,580 --> 00:32:55,280
that before if anybody's you know had any of that it's not skunky but it's awesome weed

453
00:32:55,280 --> 00:33:03,560
it's just super chunky you know you know you know purple you know a lot of you know there's

454
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,520
a couple there's two different phenols but like one of them is like grapey lavender one's

455
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:14,400
more like you know kush and like you know you know diesel fuel you know ish you know

456
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:19,800
but more likes on the sweet you know with like sweeter profiles so like you know checks

457
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:28,360
a lot of boxes you know veg as well grows well finishes early chunky frosty tasty effective

458
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:34,700
you know very potent weeds like great but it's not it's not skunky but it has two skunks

459
00:33:34,700 --> 00:33:40,000
in the name and that's kind of like you know a lot of people found is like just because

460
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:45,840
it says skunk on this package doesn't mean it's going to be skunky weed and it has a

461
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:52,840
possibility of being probably is there somewhere and if it was maybe grown in a different environment

462
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:59,160
or maybe different soil in a different region it might trigger those terpenes to kind of

463
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:03,920
have a slight difference in their chemical profile to bring that out maybe yeah and sometimes

464
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:08,480
it's just like in the name and they you know they call it skunk and it gets passed on but

465
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,840
well I got a skunk one I think you grew the same skunk one and seeds that I had a bunch

466
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:18,800
of skunk one and it came out herbaceous and fruity or not fruity but it was like herbaceous

467
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:25,080
and more of a sweet smell I got a sweet haze a sweet haze it grew very haze like the ones

468
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:31,160
I the one the skunk number ones I had you know wasn't super skunky but yeah so like

469
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,560
you know that was all you know part of the skunk phenohunt so that's that's what I'm

470
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:42,120
working on now is a breeding project with with maybe using those females and a bunch

471
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:53,240
of other females as well with a sage and sage cross to 82 skunk from sage master select

472
00:34:53,240 --> 00:34:58,880
out of duck nice so that you know that that's that's in the room right now I just got flipped

473
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:04,480
a flower so so are you going to pollinate those with your glassache males so that you

474
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:09,640
have so his his his male his male so yeah we you know so I'm going to use your little

475
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:16,720
collaboration there it is yeah so it's the sage you know which is an afghan dominant

476
00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:21,520
and then crossed to his 82 skunk which is also according to his reports an afghan more

477
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:27,920
of an afghan dominant and then the you know the male that I selected was leaning towards

478
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:32,400
that 82 skunk side of the lineage you know as opposed to the sage which has a little

479
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:39,400
bit more bubbly leaves you know the the 82 skunk has more like longer fingers like the

480
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:44,920
afghan look you know but more little more serration maybe so more serration and yeah

481
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:50,280
like more finger like whereas like you know you know some some place you know leaves are

482
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,840
more fan like some leaves are more like finger like you know you know I'm saying I've seen

483
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,800
a lot of different there's so many different types beautiful huh watching them all and

484
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:03,080
how but yeah so um but yeah well uh we're gonna we got a bunch we all that you know

485
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:08,520
the you know the skunk fetus that we hunted plus a bunch of other stuff in there um you

486
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,840
just have to wait and see so you have a line right now you have two lines and one of them

487
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:18,760
is more of a peruvian punch which is a peruvian strain like a land race from peru and then

488
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,640
the other one's more of an afghan right and so I think we actually have like seven lines

489
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:28,720
right now we have a bunch of strains so we have you know if you look you know we got

490
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:38,480
we did so we started with you know the peruvian line so we did a peruvian male that we um

491
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:44,160
actually I went to Peru brought back some seeds did you know an f2 project you know

492
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:51,440
with those you know the the peruvians and then along with that did 23 different crosses

493
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:56,760
uh all at the same time so why did you pick that male so you weren't looking for a skunk

494
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:01,920
hunt was it just a great strong sounds like four years ago whenever I served you know

495
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,960
five years ago whenever I first started breeding so that's where like the whole line starts

496
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:09,280
like you know I have you know I have been lines have been built upon lines have been

497
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,680
built upon lines I have 80 different strains that I've made over the course of about five

498
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:20,440
years and you know they started you know they all start with like a land race you know and

499
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,640
like a backbone and then kind of go from there and so like we did like you know the land

500
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:30,300
race you know f2 you know the peruvian and then we you know cross that to mac one we

501
00:37:30,300 --> 00:37:38,240
cross that to ancient or I mean uh alien rock candy we cross that to uh gmo we didn't you

502
00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:41,480
know we did a bunch of different crosses and then we hunted through those and one of the

503
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:47,520
main ones that we found uh was the peruvian punch which is mendo breath purple punch peruvian

504
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:53,040
heirloom um and that we found between like the all the different crosses that we had

505
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:59,240
made that one to be the most consistent um really hit my all checked all my boxes for

506
00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:05,680
flower growth rates everything from start to finish um so that was the peruvian punch

507
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:10,120
that we did we did like a peruvian punch line and then we you know we did peruvian two peruvian

508
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:16,480
punch lines like peruvian punch you know version one peruvian punch f2 line um and you know

509
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,000
you can find the peruvian punch through a couple different things and then we went with

510
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:26,440
the uh did a mosambique line so we had a friend a girlfriend that had family in mosambique

511
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:33,360
and malawi so i popped all those seeds in a mosambique line and um and that was like

512
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:40,320
you know more sativa obviously and then um you know we did uh we did some more work with

513
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:45,360
the peruvian um and some afghan i saw some afghan and then the next thing was the afghan

514
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:52,040
line and we did uh an afghan punch which was afghan hindu kush uh directly from afghanistan

515
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:56,520
brought over by a us service member and went like hunting through like 60 seeds of those

516
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:02,560
and did a you know selected three males from that and did the peruvian punch which was

517
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:08,160
you know i mean the afghan punch was the peruvian punch across to the afghan so for some of

518
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:13,000
our lu listeners out there you selected these land races what is exactly a land race and

519
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,960
why did you use these land races for the backbone and you use the term land race you know i

520
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:24,440
kind of you know to kind of lay out my definition of the terms you know land race in my opinion

521
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:31,640
is is hard if not impossible for us to get our hands on because land race would would

522
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:36,480
mean that the land is doing all the work you know that the land is is proliferating these

523
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,840
plants and there are places on the world in the world that does happen well they just

524
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:44,560
kind of like they can survive on their own with nobody giving them nutrients and they

525
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:50,480
survive the harsh weather there's like a siberian one that i use that i would consider that to

526
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:57,200
be a land race because it's a ruderalis from siberia that was like selected and i believe

527
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:04,440
collected in the wild those seeds were collected in the wild whereas you know you know an heirloom

528
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:09,720
would be like you know that would be you know cultivated in the region you know multiple

529
00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:14,640
generations you know would that be over you know multiple years time you know and those

530
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:19,800
seeds were you know grown and collected and then grown again in the same region and i

531
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:24,400
would consider that to be an heirloom they become more adaptive to that specific climate

532
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:29,880
yeah and they just like they give it a certain terroir you know it's like the the wine from

533
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:35,840
france versus the wine from argentina versus the wine from here all has a different if

534
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:40,720
they're using donkey dung or if they're using like a what that's not even that or like a

535
00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:45,800
lot of times it's the whole thing it's like the light it's the it's the sun it's like

536
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:51,240
whether it's on the equator versus here versus you know this soil is more acidic or this

537
00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:56,080
soil is volcanic or you know it's uh and then you know those plants start to adapt to that

538
00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:02,240
region so that's you know what makes what makes like you know an argentinian pinot noir

539
00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:08,560
different from a france a french pinot noir you know it's same thing with with cannabis

540
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,920
and yeah that you know where you grow things is is is uh does matter and you pull something

541
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:18,560
out of an environment grow it inside it totally does different but um what i would consider

542
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,720
an heirloom would be you know land race is like you know for me there's a lot of different

543
00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:27,400
different people say there's none left left or it's like it's really like it's ditch

544
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,560
weed pretty much because it's growing out it's been growing out for generations it's

545
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:35,440
not selecting for thc or anything it's just selecting for like survival rate yeah so when

546
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:40,720
i'm live we uh we had farmers along the river and during world war two they were told to

547
00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:45,840
grow hemp for the war or is it world war one i'm not sure yeah and uh for parachutes rope

548
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:51,760
uh save the save the america with hemp you know and so after the war they cut those farmers

549
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,160
off from that and but some of the seeds got into the river and they would go down the

550
00:41:55,160 --> 00:42:00,880
river and turned into river weed so they got this called romney red but basically cvd but

551
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,360
it's survived since world war one and world war two and they still have to go down the

552
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:09,960
river and eradicate it oh and to me that would be very close to a land race yeah yeah i would

553
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:14,960
agree i would agree with that but it's very uh cvd oriented uh people would grab some

554
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:20,760
and take it down to the city and sell it and like get out of town they would just they

555
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,720
wouldn't be able to sell it to people they knew because they get a bad rep but they could

556
00:42:23,720 --> 00:42:28,600
take it down to the city and sell it and yeah i got hold out down one-time deal and like

557
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,440
the yeah they have they look good and people people probably do that with hemp flower all

558
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:37,560
the time so but it probably does have some kind of medical oh i'm sure i'm sure yeah

559
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,680
i just didn't do the the thing people wanted if it's dentures with cvd or something but

560
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,240
it might not get you high exactly but it's still there and they still have to go through

561
00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:50,920
and eradicate it every year so it's it's possible that that could be classified as a land race

562
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,960
if it survives yeah yeah so like you know everyone's got their own definitions but like

563
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,880
i would consider a lot of things i do you know to be like air you know air loop from

564
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:03,480
heirloom genetics and you know i don't even want to get into the you know you know uh

565
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,440
because you know some people get really offended if you if you're saying oh you got land race

566
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:12,240
you know it's like well here's my definition yeah everybody everyone's got you know their

567
00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:18,160
own their own thing but yeah so i uh then you know so then i did the afghan after i

568
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:24,400
did the afghan punch line i did another afghan hindu kush f2 line and that's where i did

569
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:31,040
that the uh three versions of the f2 uh and then the four or five versions of the bx's

570
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:38,160
and most of those were for trichrome production uh heavy blood production yeah structure resiliency

571
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,800
exactly so you see yeah so i i wanted them to be you know resistant to you know pests

572
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:48,440
and pathogens i wanted to you know to grow you know short you know stacked you know heavy

573
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:53,520
flower production you know you know heavy you know thc production you know terpenes

574
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,640
because i'll breathe for terpenes you know there's first but that's the hardest thing

575
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,440
to breed for because it's you got to wait till the end because once you harvest it it

576
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,600
changes and then once it cures it changes oh yeah and to see if it remains all the way

577
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,640
through the curing process man it takes a long time to get through that it might be

578
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,960
three months four months after you harvest right and then you got to keep that there

579
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,120
and then that whole feed and then you got to keep the phenos around that you cut you

580
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:20,920
know make making sure you're you know cataloging properly and keeping you know records and

581
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:25,600
making sure that like you label things properly and yeah labeling is huge if you unlabel something

582
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:30,280
or something gets labeled wrong you you got to start over half the time yeah that's why

583
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:35,400
you see so many question marks i think it could be this in some lineages of some strains

584
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:41,040
because they're not sure what it was labeled or yeah yeah exactly got cross pollinated

585
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:46,400
by something they just don't know by accident from a herm probably right right but pollen

586
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,360
is pretty uh pretty easy to stick to your clothes so if you get some in your clothes

587
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:54,360
and you're walking around your your flower room it will stick to your flower plants and

588
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:59,120
oh yeah well i just want to let everybody know thanks thanks for joining thanks for just

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to totally hijack but we uh we had 40 plus people following the last one yeah that's

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awesome in the middle of the day 100 people already liked the last posts that we made

614
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sweet oh see yeah we were going here and we were talking about the uh terpene profiles

615
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:46,440
and what we uh like to look for in our in our hunts when we're fino hunting and what

616
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:53,000
we're doing at the moment uh i am doing a little cvd five to one ratio hunt and has

617
00:47:53,000 --> 00:48:01,800
a little siberian uh russian yeah it's uh ibl version of that mixed with sour tsunami

618
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:06,240
cantonic and harlequin it's like a three-way mix of all this and it comes out to like a

619
00:48:06,240 --> 00:48:13,400
five to one maybe i think 25 and five cvd dominant nice yeah i worked with some uh some

620
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:18,640
cvd stuff earlier on i'm going to be incorporating some cvd into this uh into the skunk hunt

621
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:23,680
uh or a skunk line so we'll do a you know a full spectrum skunk so that i think that's

622
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:29,120
important is getting full spectrum uh flower i wanted to get more one-to-ones and more

623
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:35,480
cvd dominant little thc in there with nice terpene profiles to make those uh nice tensions

624
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,760
that have that full spectrum because i find those are the ones that help me the most and

625
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:46,600
yeah you can extract it with some alcohol and make your rso and then reduce it down

626
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,320
and put it into some oil mix it up that way or you could just soak it right into your

627
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:55,960
oil and uh the full spectrum is definitely more on the edible wise it's more calming

628
00:48:55,960 --> 00:49:01,960
and relaxing a full body high instead of having that thc slam it that's that's i think part

629
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,600
of the reason i don't like edibles a lot is because they're not full spectrum it's just

630
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:11,320
like isolate or distillate of t of thc or you can make them out of the rosin a lot of

631
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:15,480
people doing those now without the solid those are the better ones so so that they're you

632
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,960
can have a little hint of the of the cannabis but you can actually taste a little difference

633
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,720
in the terpenes and you can pair them up with different flavors too and that's something

634
00:49:22,720 --> 00:49:27,540
that you can do with uh drinks the drinks coming out now is going to be hot oh yeah

635
00:49:27,540 --> 00:49:32,680
with the rosin uh well we just talking about the swamp juice there or some other uh flavored

636
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:39,960
tinctures those are really good uh like i said head to body without being anxious without

637
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:45,200
having uh too much of a head high or too much of a body high sometimes high thc you just

638
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:50,400
make people sleep yeah no exactly it might be good for people with high pain um some

639
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,280
people that might be their medicine but for me it's not really the high thc it's more

640
00:49:54,280 --> 00:50:00,360
of that full spectrum plant medicine yeah that uh just makes you feel good all over

641
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:05,160
exactly and i enjoy the nature and enjoy the baseball game or yeah i have trouble sitting

642
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:10,760
down edibles really help me sit for more than 20 minutes 30 minutes to just relax yeah because

643
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:17,360
i've just so many injuries from wrecking a bicycle skiing or different uh whatever falling

644
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:23,160
down on the ice and hurting my back in sports that yeah i'm constantly cracking and aching

645
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:28,880
and if i said still too much back aches same here kicking really fast yeah i feel exactly

646
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:37,360
the same way so um you mentioned uh cbd and you actually have a little cbd that you grew

647
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:42,600
and uh what what's special about your cbd line excuse me well so the cbd that we uh

648
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,760
the the tinctures and stuff with the way we carry wasn't actually grown by us it was grown

649
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:52,920
out in the san luis valley uh by a good friend of ours um but it's uh it's full spectrum

650
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:57,760
what i would consider full spectrum it's got you know more than two cannabinoids uh let

651
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:07,200
me let's see if i can pull was it cold pressed or was it um decarboxylated first it's a distillate

652
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:15,640
uh okay yeah so it's a distillate but it's got it's got cbg cbn cbc um it's got the terpenes

653
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:20,280
intact too yeah the full spectrum yeah or a broad spectrum right the two differences

654
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:26,720
i think like if it's the what i understood if it takes all the t hc out then it's going

655
00:51:26,720 --> 00:51:32,520
to be broad spectrum and if it has like a trace of like 0.01 maybe it's full spectrum

656
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:37,960
so it takes something else is taken out of there yeah they did it's a like a terpene

657
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:46,280
or something it's down to 0.3 uh or you know or yeah 0.3 0.03 i think yes the threshold

658
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:53,720
for 3% so they diluted it down to that to make it legal you know um but so it's uh it's

659
00:51:53,720 --> 00:52:00,160
just it's full spectrum uh you know distillate i i don't think that this batch was remediated

660
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:04,600
or anything like that so i think they pulled it you know within compliance time so that's

661
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:09,240
you know that was not it was nice just to get you know a test that had it was like cbd

662
00:52:09,240 --> 00:52:14,440
is great but you know we have a pure cbd product as well that's made with just you know um

663
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:21,120
mct oil and uh an isolate and that's it and then we have this full spectrum product that's

664
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:25,080
got you know four different cannabinoids a little bit of thc it's got the terpenes in

665
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:29,080
there unfortunately we don't have the terpenes listed because we didn't get that test yeah

666
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:33,760
we just got the compliance test um and the you know the cannabinoid test but um but yeah

667
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:39,720
it helps a lot of people um you know the you know the we have a pet you know version of

668
00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:46,760
the pure cbd and the only difference is it's got uh uh different uh dosing you know on

669
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:51,360
there a little lighter for the for the same exact strength uh it just tells you what dose

670
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:56,800
to go with for your pet versus with your human is it tincture too or is it like a biscuit

671
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:02,800
no it's it's it's pure there's no there's no additives nothing no flavorings none of

672
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,400
that so yeah one thing with chris bratton when i had his interview he he had actually

673
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:12,340
got fired from his job for taking cbd because it really yeah it was 0.03 there were some

674
00:53:12,340 --> 00:53:16,280
trace in there and he was truck driver and there was no tolerance you know for a while

675
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:22,400
so he was taking cbd for pain and then he got booted because of that he got tested or

676
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:27,440
just yeah they tested him and he came up positive so that's when he moved down to colorado that's

677
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:37,840
yeah and uh that was the main reason that uh he got into growing himself yeah that's

678
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:42,760
nuts you know uh how sometimes you know things like that just push you right where you need

679
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:49,160
to go yeah that's uh he's happy it happened in hindsight now but it was a it was a big

680
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:53,400
problem so the distillate would be one you would recommend for somebody who has to take

681
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:58,120
a urinalysis or piss test the isolate the isolate yeah the isolate so if you got yeah

682
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:02,120
if you have to get any kind of uh test like that just to go with the you know the pure

683
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:08,560
uh what we call the you know pure cbd uh you know takes your it's just uh mct oil and isolate

684
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:12,320
and that's it because that's you know when you get to the distillate you know that's

685
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:17,120
where you got the point you know 0.3 thc and all that stuff which you know really helps

686
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:22,320
with the synergistic effect and all that but you know you don't want to pop out of your

687
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:27,920
analysis yeah that's uh that's a big thing even here in colorado uh you can lose your

688
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:33,560
job for just depends on your testing positive i know it's an issue because uh i have a friend

689
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:38,400
who has to carry around fake urine with her all the time and it's a work a right to work

690
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:43,600
state so that means that they can fire you for any reason anytime no questions asked

691
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:47,040
yeah yeah exactly there's a lot of states coming out there where they're being protected

692
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:52,360
now but that's uh something that maybe we can try to get passed here in colorado to

693
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:57,000
protect those medical card holders at least yeah that'd be nice that'd be nice yeah that's

694
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:02,960
a something different that uh that has has to change around here i believe personally

695
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,520
but uh when it's becoming legal in other places that's something that people can look out

696
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:11,360
for before they make the law and hey put this into the sketch yeah right and when they're

697
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:15,640
doing the first initial laws and have to do rewrites and stuff like that amendments and

698
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:19,360
you know and things like that that take forever to get approved and you know if you can just

699
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:24,440
get it get it right the first time which is very rare you know it helps to have some knowledge

700
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:29,200
of uh states that are going through it you know yeah exactly people that are going through

701
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:33,480
it hopefully they they listen when they when they when they do that so you know they pay

702
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:37,080
attention instead of just sitting back and waiting for the things to change oh it's happening

703
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:41,800
it's happening but it'll happen in a way you don't really want and then you'll be upset

704
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:46,520
around it correct yeah it's like you know the legalization is great in theory but it's

705
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:51,280
not always great in practice and you know just because it's legal doesn't mean it's

706
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:58,080
the way it should be so hopefully um yeah you know hopefully our politicians you know

707
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:03,400
listen to the people when they speak yeah most definitely and uh i think uh things are

708
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:10,040
changing and that's going to be the the future here because what they just said uh he asked

709
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:15,720
the drug czar or the what is it the attorney general that has to change it and look into

710
00:56:15,720 --> 00:56:21,360
the reclassification rescheduling yeah and i'm not i'm not even sure so i'm just blessed

711
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:25,400
to be in a place where it's legal and you know you know for better for worse i've been

712
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:30,080
doing it for a long time and it's been uh you know i mean it's all it's all been for

713
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:33,640
the better on this end you know but when i was back in texas it was a little bit more

714
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:39,440
frowned upon yeah it's a lot it's a lot uh easier living life here exactly we're kind

715
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,720
of spoiled we are that's why we're trying to get the word out there to these people

716
00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:50,360
that don't know life goes on things are not going to hell in a gift basket here in colorado

717
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:55,280
it is yeah and there's you know there's change coming around the corner all over the place

718
00:56:55,280 --> 00:57:01,080
you know in thailand it's you know it's uh all open fully legal now they're like giving

719
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:05,440
away plants to all the citizens and you know there's uh and it used to be one of the most

720
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:09,360
strict you know places in the world for cannabis you know so you know there's you know there's

721
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:13,640
there's things there times there are changing you know and it's coming around exactly so

722
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:18,320
uh this interview is going a little long here i just want to let the listeners out there

723
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:22,840
know where they can get some of your products where can they get in contact with your uh

724
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:28,080
website or yeah yeah i appreciate that so you can uh you know you can always go to the

725
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:34,620
website um at uh heart and soil project.com we also have heart and soil seeds excuse me

726
00:57:34,620 --> 00:57:41,440
heart and soil seeds and heart and soil cbd.com um if you're looking for obviously the cbd

727
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,560
or shirts or hats or anything like that those will be super easy to find if you're looking

728
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:49,280
for the seeds what you need to do is you need to go to shop and then you search stickers

729
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:56,280
um and all the stickers come with free seeds um and that is uh you know for you know it

730
00:57:56,280 --> 00:58:01,000
just it helps with our payment processor uh but yeah it could be a little confusing to

731
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:06,360
some people but search stickers and uh and the stickers you know the stickers come with

732
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:07,560
with free seeds.

733
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:12,000
And you're always out there here on the local scene and i know there's an event coming up

734
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:16,560
here soon yeah there's a barter town yeah there's events coming in showdown and uh it

735
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:21,640
the i can't remember the name the so high cafe is that yeah so high cafe um and you

736
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:26,800
can find all this information uh you can uh follow us on instagram at heart and soil project

737
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:33,160
at heart and soil seeds or at heart and soil cbd um i'd say follow them all because instagram

738
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:37,880
has a tendency sometimes to either shadow ban or shut you know shut us down sometimes

739
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:44,960
so um but you can always uh and then you can get the link to our discord um by either going

740
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:53,040
uh to one of those um uh instagram accounts and messaging me there or you can always contact

741
00:58:53,040 --> 00:59:02,640
me at my email beanderson at heartandsoilproject.com beanderson like bretanderson uh at heartandsoilproject.com

742
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:08,560
you can ask me anything uh order seeds or you know whatever you need to there but uh

743
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:15,240
discord is a really big place where things are uh starting to go uh you know go to with

744
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:19,480
you know a lot of censorship on facebook and instagram things like that and youtube also

745
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:26,920
cutting down yeah youtube and and um and you know just a little you know still uh some

746
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:32,040
uh negativity towards the cannabis scene you know on a lot of these platforms where discord

747
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:36,360
is more of a safe place we really developed an awesome community we community we have

748
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:41,760
over a thousand people um on our discord right now and it's a really great place to collaborate

749
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:46,600
um you know post pictures you know talk you know you can ask me questions we do a sunday

750
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:51,920
sesh every uh sunday for at least an hour sometimes two hours um where we just hang

751
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:56,520
out you know we usually have a topic i'll chat about you know different different things

752
00:59:56,520 --> 01:00:01,840
but then at the end or during we can always you can always just ask me questions um you

753
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:07,320
know or bring up you know different you know any concerns or you know uh wonderings or

754
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:12,920
anything like that so discord is has been an awesome place so if you want the link uh

755
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:19,960
to the discord i can get you an invite either through my email or instagram platforms um

756
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:24,360
but yeah thank you for having me on i know this interview went a little bit long but

757
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:28,040
we uh we've got to know each other and it's just easy to talk we can probably go round

758
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:31,160
and round and round we'll probably we could do it again on another day yeah so we could

759
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:35,280
just go round and round so yeah but he's uh we'll do another one yeah exactly uh another

760
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:41,200
time but he's he's on a mission to to kind of get the word out um you know that uh you

761
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:45,760
know cannabis is here to stay it's you know it's been here for a long time and and uh

762
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:50,160
you know people that have been using are uh you know you know good people and there's

763
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,520
a lot of you know a lot of good people doing great things in this industry and you know

764
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:58,840
just because you're a cannabis user doesn't make you you know any you know any worse of

765
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:04,840
a person you know a lot of you know cannabis users get a bad rap um just by you know the

766
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:10,200
plant you know being what it is but you know we're trying to to show that um there's a

767
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:13,720
lot of good a lot of good out there and we're we're pushing the good for the uh for the

768
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:18,840
cannabis community yeah the motto is we refer the reefer here you can defer the reefer but

769
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:24,680
no one should fear the reefer amen well thanks for tuning in guys and we'll get this episode

770
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:29,600
up here in the next couple weeks and uh tune in for new episodes and make sure to check

771
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:36,080
out my website www.littlefarmer.com i'll have some seeds up there for a few few more weeks

772
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:40,920
here there will be 50 seeds for 50 dollars just for to let people get started and they

773
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:44,680
can throw some seeds down here this fall before the first frost if they want to go outdoors

774
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:48,760
and see what pops up in their area because it's going to have a wide variety of genetics

775
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:54,560
from indicus to sestivas to uh tall and short that's a good that's a good way to do it too

776
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:59,720
we were talking about that with matt at area 420 that you know planting them uh you know

777
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:06,280
early even in the winter time you know um will help them germinate later on down the

778
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:11,200
down the road yeah you can throw 20 of them out and maybe 10 of them will pop up but then

779
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:15,440
they're hardened to your specific area and you know that's like you know rather than

780
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,680
buying a bunch of seeds and hoping they do well you know he's going to give you a bunch

781
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,920
of different variety and they're going to you know some of them will do well and those

782
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:27,360
are the ones you can take cuttings of and save you know for future you know future years

783
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:31,720
yeah it's a great opportunity to get started if you're hesitant because it can be quite

784
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:36,720
expensive getting started i know i wasted a couple hundred dollars on my first round

785
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:43,440
of seeds and things didn't work out the soil was too dry germination uh you know testing

786
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:48,120
or you know practice you know different you know methods and whatever like you know it's

787
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:52,600
good to have seeds around to practice with yeah we get a little spoiled here and we don't

788
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:57,280
realize that it's not easy access for a lot of people right now so exactly there's a

789
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:01,880
lot of 100 packs left guys if you would like to try some out hit up the website make sure

790
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:07,440
to give reefer the reefer a follow like comment share subscribe everywhere you can guys thanks

791
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:30,880
and one love peace

792
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:42,400
for the healing meditation and good vibration for food view fiber and a little bit of fun

793
01:03:42,400 --> 01:04:01,840
see the joint ain't necessarily the point but i want more