Welcome back everyone. This is Reefer the Reefer the podcast. I'm your host Little Farmer.
I'm here with Rashaun Thomas aka Growzilla 5280 on Instagram if you want to go follow
him. He is a Denver local. He's down in Moffitt growing in the area 420 and he is a trailblazer
in the social equity growing community and he's here to talk about that a little bit
today. Can you tell us a grow how you got into the game a little bit?
Absolutely man. Yeah, thanks for having me. Man, it's been a long journey man. It started
off at a very, very young age, you know, growing vegetables with my grandmother going down
south to the farm with my great grandfather growing and just kind of introduced me to
agriculture at a young age and therefore kind of transferred over into cannabis into the
community that I'm in. How did you get into the social equity? What
were some of the steps that you had to go through? That's a great question man. So,
ha man, you know, sleepless nights, a lot of meetings, a lot of rooms, just being an advocate
man, you know, this is an uphill battle that we're still constantly fighting. So it's not
really of a you're in, you're in, you know, this is something that's more of a lifestyle,
more of a turning point in the cannabis industry. So, you know, I'm living in the state of Colorado,
they're a little bit late or a little bit slow with some of the social equity programs,
some of the policies that they're making, some of the rules that need to be presented. But,
you know, that's what we're here for is to kind of advocate for that and kind of make sure
that these type of issues are brought to the table. But I got into the social equity,
growing social equity realm of cannabis, you know, I guess, at a very young age, you know,
being a part of a community that was heavily riddled by the war on drugs, you know, Mount
Bello, Denver, Colorado, it was something that I seen, you know, timeless, countless times again,
you know, the arrests, the tickets, the harassment over cannabis. I mean, that was social equity back
then, right? It was just till 2021 is when it really started being recognized. So I guess that's
somewhat of a loaded question, how I got into social equity, I guess I can say I was kind of
born into it. Nice. And what were some of the difficulties that are emerging for you to get
to where you are now? I mean, there's a lot of, you know, there's a lot of obstacles. There's a lot of
unforeseen, unforeseen factors that comes and play a role in your business plan.
It's just been a challenge as far, you know, you're going to have to go through the licensing
process. Fortunately, I was blessed to be at a place called Area 420, as you mentioned, where,
you know, it's a little bit cool and a little bit, you know, it's not so restricted with all the red
tape as far as getting the license on the local level. So the town of Moffitt is pretty cool. So
the lot that I bought was already pre-licensed. So it actually helped me get into the industry
legally a little bit easier than if I were to be operating down in Denver.
Yeah. So yeah, Denver is pretty crowded and there's a lot of, not a lot of places with the zoning to
throw up your grows or throw in your new dispensary or to get into your business.
Absolutely. And that's one of the fights being social equity that we're fighting for.
Excuse me. And that's to kind of loosen some of these zone restrictions that they have,
all these green zones and these neighborhoods of undue concentrations. So the neighborhoods of
undue concentrations are zoned out within six neighborhoods in Denver. And these undue
concentration areas are areas where you cannot operate, you cannot own a dispensary within a
thousand feet of these areas, or you can operate a grow. So that's a little tricky, right? Because
happened that these neighborhoods of undue concentrations are the warm drug areas. And
these are the food desert areas. These are the areas where actually dispensaries capitalize and
grows capitalize in the beginning of the prohibition. And we're able to grandfather in on some of these,
on some of this real estate and keep this real estate and capitalize on the community as far as
the culture, as far as getting their products sold. So, you know, it's a little bit, it's a
lot more foreseeing as far as the political aspect of cannabis and social equity that a lot of people
see from the outside. So you said you were down in Moffitt, Colorado growing. And I mentioned that
earlier, it's AKA Cush, Colorado. They're trying to name their city after Cush because there are so
many growers down there. It seems to be a place that a lot of people are being able to grow. It's
San Luis Valley. I don't know how many lots are available, but there's still lots available down
there. Shout out to area 420 though, because that's where the opportunity started. Like you mentioned,
you know, the town of Moffitt is a lot more cannabis friendly. So, you know, it's not all
the red tape and the high cost to get into the industry. And that's where the social equity part
takes place. See, another thing that I have learned and heard is that the financial backing is really
difficult for some of these social equity license recipients or people who are looking to get a
social equity license with any state. It's hard to get financial backing. And they're getting
financial backing from large corporations. And then they're kind of losing the control themselves.
Just they're being used as a front man. And have you seen that happen? Yeah, well, that's that 51%
of ownership, right? And you know, that's that social equity colonist, you know, colonization,
you know, where you get these corporations, they go after these social equity applicants who are
very, very wet behind the ears when it comes to business, very wet behind the ears when it comes to
decision making, financial, financially decision making. So they capitalize on that. But you know,
they put that restriction where the social equity licensee has to have 51% of ownership of the
business. Well, that still leaves another 50% of the license out there. So that leaves that door
open for these corporations that kind of come in, capitalize, you know, get these areas where social
equity are kind of where those rules and those barriers are kind of lifted exclusively for social
equity, and they kind of capitalize on it. Delivery is a good example of that. The delivery is
struggling majorly in Denver, Colorado, due to the fact there's 209 dispensaries, and only nine of
them partner 10, nine or 10 partners with social equity delivery companies. And the delivery,
the delivery realm in Colorado, how setup is, you have to be a social equity applicant in Denver.
So when we're talking, we're talking about, we're talking about cities, right? Because that's how
the cannabis industry is kind of regulated in the state of Colorado. Each city has their choice
to either participate or each city doesn't happen. Denver is the capital, so they kind of trailblazed
and pioneered it. So with that being said, the transporter slash delivery license exclusive,
just to the social equity applicant. Well, that makes it where the delivery business or the
delivery ramification of this industry is very slow moving, and it's at a very slow pace, because
none of these corporate companies want to partner with these delivery companies for what reason,
I don't know. They're trying to wait it out to see if they can't get their hands on these license
and allow so many of these big corporations to set up their own deliveries and make it explode. So
that's, you know, it's a, it's a really a lot behind the scene, but you know, that's kind of
what we're in these rooms fighting for. And that's, that's what this voice is for. I did hear
something recently about there was a reduction in tax price or something for the delivery company.
Do you know anything about that? Yeah, man. So recommend any delivery companies local here?
Shout out Better Days, shout out Blazor Go, you know, that was my voice. But no, yeah, there was
a bill that was just passed, man. And we were fighting really, really hard for it to kind of
make the delivery more exclusive to social equity to extend that exclusivity out a little bit more
and that bill passed. So that's great job on that. Denver also did a good thing and lowering the
licensing fee. So on a city level, the licensing fee was 2500, it went down to $25. So that gives
the dispensary owners a little bit more initiative to work with these delivery companies. However,
on the state level, nothing's changed, still high prices. Gotcha. Do you have any advice or anybody
that you would recommend to new people trying to get into the social equity game here in Colorado?
Absolutely. Start off with cseg.com. So that is the website for Colorado State Social Equity Group.
I'm actually one of the board members, our founder Asia. This is where, you know, it starts, right?
This is where the grassroots work starts. This is where the ground community lays its framework. So
anyone that's looking to get into this industry as a social equity applicant, I would definitely
recommend cseg. The color of cannabis is one of the resources. Rashaun, when was the first time
you ever smoked cannabis? That's a great question, man. I would have to say I was 14, man, and I
remember it like it was yesterday. So I got some, I mean, it was some freaking brickweed, right? And
at the time, I, you know, it was, I had access to it, but I really didn't have access to it.
But I had a girlfriend that her older sister, she used to smoke with her older sister. So she was,
you know, it went like, come over, I'll give you some and, you know, I'll give you some of this weed
and you could try it. So I went over there, you know, went and got some, she left it in the mailbox.
I remember it like it was yesterday. So I rode my bike over there, my BMX bike, rode my BMX over
there, got it out the mailbox. I took it home. So this is how inexperienced I was with, with cannabis.
So I got, I took it home, broke it up. I at least knew that, right? So I got some notebook paper out
of my trapper keeper. So I might be telling my age right there. Got some notebook paper out of my
trapper keeper. I rolled it up, I opened the window and, you know, there went, you know, I turned on
some Dr. Dre, you know, and there it went. I lit it up, man. And it was like such that it was a
such a sensation. It was the euphoric feeling was unmatchable. I mean, it was truly undescribable.
It was, it was, it was great. Yeah. First time I smoked, I actually didn't get high.
I've heard that from many people, but the first time I did get high, a friend of mine from DC
had some, and he told me this is $20 a gram. This is some Jamaican red. And we had smoked some
schwag weed and didn't really hit me too much. I guess I wasn't smoking it right. But the first
time I smoked that, I got the exact same euphoric feeling. I had the toe tingle. All my pains went
away. I don't know. I just love life at the moment. And that's the medicinal properties,
right? You said, you said it, you set the key. All your pains went away and that's what we need
more testing for. You know, we need the government to participate a little bit more in this R and D
testing. You know, we need more positive, more positive campaigns when it comes to consuming
cannabis as not only as recreational, but as a medicinal property. Yeah, man, it is mental and
physical relaxation for anybody's smoking. I think all consumption is medicinal of some sort,
even if it's just a recreational after work, calming down. It is relieving your stress.
Yeah, I remember, I remember being young and seeing like the old heads like drink all night,
right? Like they would drink all night. They would wake up the next morning. They would wake up the
next morning sick as hell. They would go to the couch. Underneath the couch was a shoe box top.
And that shoe box top was a pack of white zigzags and some fucking weed. And they would roll that
shit up and they would smoke that shit. An hour later, these motherfuckers is laughing, joking,
eating food and things were back normal. So that's the definitely the medicinal properties
and that we're seeing in it, you know, the nausea, the upset stomach feeling. So definitely can attest
to that. It is great for a hangover. I've heard that many times and I can contest because I drank
a lot in college and smoking the first thing in the morning would get me feeling good enough to
go to class and it gets you up and motivated, right? It motivated me and it calmed me down enough
where I could sit still for an hour and a half and listen to a lecture which would bore me in
any other way. I'm sure, I'm sure it did. I mean, that's a challenge. That's a lot to kind of,
that's a lot to kind of deal with, right? You know, waking up off of an alcohol
binge, off of a drinking binge, which is legal, which is, you know, not tax heavily on the way
that the cannabis industry is, which is not demonized or pushed to the corner
like the cannabis industry is. You know, this is something that is, went through prohibition,
was legal by standards of the government, but it's now legal, which is flaunted in every commercial
Super Bowl ads. I mean, you know, alcohol is like really something that is huge in the American
culture, but yet cannabis, something that's a medicinal property, something that does
opposite of what alcohol does. It's something that's highly regulated and something that's not
federally legal. But, you know, like, you know, just to kind of rewind back to what you said about,
you know, in college, waking up after that, you know, drinking and then having to smoke a joint,
you know, and get there and get to that lecture, you know, that's a lot to ask for, you know,
a kid in college that's, you know, that's want to hang out, that wants that college experience
and then what, you know, have to go to, have to go to class to a lecture the next day. But if this
kid gets caught smoking a joint or vaping, you know, he's kicked off a campus or he's written up.
So, you know, but yet, you know, they're overlooking the party that that kid was just at. So
I think that's really hard for these kids. Yeah, I went to the number one party school in the nation,
West Virginia University, and there was a lot of peer pressure to drink. And I didn't really like
drinking, but I ended up drinking a lot because it was hard to get a good joint or to find a good
cannabis because it was illegal and it was dry a lot of times. So drinking was readily available,
but it has something that's helped me stop drinking since I've been here to Colorado.
I haven't drank in four or five years, not a drop, don't even want it.
Congratulations on your sobriety. Thank you for that. Thank you. And
we were talking a little bit earlier about how there was troubles back in the day when we were
trying to score a bag or something, you know, and how it was illegal and it was always associated
with alcohol or even harder drugs like crack cocaine. And that was something even in small
town, West Virginia, in a little town, crack was crack was there. There was people dropping out
of school at 16, 17, smoking it. Some of my best friends. And I ended up in crack houses
just to smoke some herb. Have you ever been in any messed up situation like that?
I mean, coming from a neighborhood that was targeted by the war on drugs, you know,
they use different type of strategies to kind of, uh, encroach that type of behavior. So what they
would do is they would use the marijuana because they knew the cannabis, they would use the cannabis
as a gateway to, um, I guess do lawful slash unlawful search and seizures, you know, um,
going through properties and things like that. So I think in my community, they knew that they had
the marijuana, um, offhand, but you know, it was a bigger and broader scope for what they were
looking for. They were looking for other things, but they use the marijuana as a gateway to search
cars, to get information or to, or for entrapment and things like that. So.
So yeah, the cannabis gets a bad rep as a gateway drug, but for me, it was a gateway to get out of
those situations out of drinking out of, uh, you know, I never understood that, you know,
when they said that cannabis was a gateway drug, right? Because I came from the era where they had
dare, you know, the dare was the, the, the huge slogan, you know, dare to keep kids off drugs.
And in school, they would bring, uh, this cop and he would have this big guy, this guy dressed up as
a, a dog, you know, a crime dog, McGruffin, they would come to school and they would tell kids,
Oh, stay away from weed, stay away from cocaine. These are big, bad drugs and you would never grow
up to be anything, you know, and on the, on the blackboard, they would bring, they would bring these scheduled drugs and
they would have a joint right up underneath a cocaine bag. So I thought, I always found that, you know, that was quite interesting that
weed would be the gateway drug to others because I've never experimented with any other drug.
Yeah. I found alcohol being more of a gateway drug because once you're drunk, you, uh,
You're more, you're more acceptable to peer pressure when you're drunk.
Doing stupid stuff you wouldn't do when you weren't.
When you're, when you're smoking cannabis, man, you're more mentally focused. You're more focused on,
you know, the things around you. You're more focused. You're in a better place. You're,
your, your mind's adjusted to kind of die, to kind of digest things at a different pace, you know,
more, more slowly or more, more congestively, you know, but when you're, when you're drinking alcohol, man,
you're just kind of spontaneous in some of the actions that you do. You're kind of spontaneous with some of
the words that come out your mouth. So yeah, I kind of seen it from both, both ends.
Yeah. A lot of people I know who don't like to smoke cannabis, they, they don't talk as much
in social situations. They're not as talkative. So, uh, maybe just, they're just thinking twice
about what they're going to say before they say it. Exactly. Right. That's that, you know, that's that
stimulation of the mind that cannabis gives you, you know, it gives you that euphoric feeling where
sometimes you just want to go, go to that place, go to that euphoric place, that stimulated place
that makes you feel good. Right. You have that hard week, all week, nine to five dealing with,
you know, the boss's demands and, you know, Fridays came and you want to kind of reprieve,
you kind of, you want to compress from your, your, your work life and, you know, you're,
you're, you're obligated and you're entitled to, to kind of, you know, have a joint or two.
And so it makes me feel good every time, but have you ever had a bad experience smoking cannabis?
Have you ever found something laced or ever, uh, you know, just felt paranoid or?
I, I've, I never found anything laced or never, you know, became overly paranoid unless I was smoking,
uh, an unfinished sativa or, or some unfinished weed, but, uh, no, you know, typically in parties
and, and things like that, you know, unless I really know you or I've sat there and I watch you
roll it up, you know, I really don't smoke behind you like in raves and shit like that. You know,
I won't really grab a joint and, you know, that someone just passes randomly and starts smoking.
So I haven't had any experience with any, with any lace weed, but, and again, you know, in this
community, in, in, in this culture, man, you know, the true legacy people, true legacy, uh, cannabis
consumers don't get out like that. Right. That's not something that we do. That's not, you know,
we don't run around like, ah, I'm a lace to backwood or I'm a lace to joint and I'm gonna
just pass this around to everyone. You know, that's typically someone that's really not, uh,
of this community or not genuine in the community. Yeah. That's good, good advice for new people out
there smoking when you're ever at a party, just don't take a joint from anybody you don't know.
Make sure you know who you're smoking with. And if there's somebody that's been smoking for a long
time, got a good reputation to give and ask somebody else, yo, should I trust him? No doubt.
It's just like, especially females, you never know when somebody's going to slip a roofie in your
drink. That's something you really got to be careful of. You never know what somebody's
going to pass to you if you don't know what you're getting. Exactly. But that kind of harkens back
to what I just, you know, to the statement I just made, you know, you know, those types of people
aren't truly about this community. And that's what we're trying to do. We're trying to separate the
real from the fake for say, right? Because, you know, it kind of diverts back to the corporate
part of cannabis where you have a lot of these MSOs and a lot of these owners of these big,
you know, of these big brands that don't even consume, you know, don't even consume cannabis.
So I find that hard to believe that they would be in tune or in touch with what's good herb,
what's the culture of it, and who they should buy it from. So yeah, that's good advice. I like that.
So have you ever been around somebody's had a bad time smoking over consumed or had a bad trip?
You know, I remember when edibles came really popular. And there was a story on the news
about a kid that jumped off of a hotel building or something like that. And they, they tried to blame
it on edibles. I mean, it made a huge movement in cannabis where they started, you know, eyeballing
to start putting numbers up underneath microscopes, start putting restrictions on concentrates and
things like that. Me personally, I've never seen anyone outside of E2 Big Macs, back to back,
you know, off of cannabis. I've never, I truly have it. Uncontrollable munchies. Uncontrollable
munchies, right? Yeah, that's something that happens with new people. But once you get used to it,
kind of lessons and lessons, but first time users beware. So quick story, quick story. So,
you know, during the time you start smoking, you know, and all the smokers know this, all the
connoisseurs know this. You know, when you start smoking that first time, you know, you might get
high, you might not. But those two, three times after that is when you start really knowing like,
this is what stone feel like. And you start getting those effects of whatever type of cannabis you
consumed. And back then, we didn't know it. Like I said, it was a culture thing. It wasn't, it wasn't
a recreational or a medical thing. So we had access to all types of cannabis. It wasn't on
a certain market or a certain shelf. So make a long story short, we were in high school. I was
smoking with my cousin, got my cousin high for the first time. Freaking, we were in my grandmother's
house. And we were eating cold waffles, cold, egg, or waffles with peanut butter, had like the
uncontrollable munchies. So that was a great time. Yeah, I remember tearing up a couple of
refrigerators in my day, especially late night. No doubt. So your little operation down there,
what type of grow you got? What type of soil you're running? What your plans are for the future?
Absolutely, man. So we're down there in the San Luis Valley area, aka Cush Colorado,
area 420, you know, doing it with my brothers out there. So yeah, man, we're always, always,
always going to be efficient at what we do and make sure that it's environmentally friendly,
you know, at every grow after every grow, we always try to reduce our carbon footprint by
staying environmentally friendly, sustainable, when it comes to the agriculture standards,
we're doing living soil, which is really, really great, you know, this is the first year running
living soil. So we're excited about that 100% sun grown, we do outdoor and we do some greenhouse.
So like I said, you know, we're always trying to reduce our carbon footprint, stay sustainable as
possible, reduce our greenhouse gases by all means impossible, and keep it all organic, man.
Yeah, I was pretty impressed when I came down to see your grow, your plants were really nice,
I saw some really nice purples popping out, some nice size on those colas. I was really surprised
for the first year in the ground out there. Yeah, you know, it's a native soil man, you know,
went to a living soil class that was hosted by GrowCast. And, you know, there was a lot of
talk about native soil and native soil being the key and the generative of cannabis life, you know,
and ultimately, that is true, it's no knock on no one's growth style, because I've done it all from,
you know, from granulates to liquids to, you know, organics. But what we're ultimately trying to
achieve is what's natural coming out the earth. And honestly, that's what these nutrient companies
are trying to replicate. So what type of genetics are you running? Did you start with clones? Did
you start with seeds? Do you have any preference of what you like to run down there? You know,
in the valley, any valley with that climate and temperatures always get to run a good Kush. But,
you know, we're doing a little bit of everything, you know, shout out to my man BrainStrap genetics,
you know, we're running some Harambe breath, tropical funk, you know, some funk runs and
shout out to my boys out in Purple Mountain Farm, you know, we're running some of their Colorado
Kush, which is really hitting the dispensaries and we're running some of their purple dream and some
of their blue juice. So we got our own line, we got our own genetics as well. So we're doing some
girl crush, which is going to be huge. We're going to be working with an edible company to try to
do a collaboration with that. So look out for that in the future. And yeah, man, we're rocking
and rolling trying to build up our library so we can hit everybody with some funk.
Yeah, I like the idea of the sun grown. That's something I think that's going to be the future
of cannabis, more and more states going legal, you're going to find more people growing outdoors
because they're not trying to hide it indoors. Absolutely. I mean, it just keeps the overhead
down as well. And you said the key thing, hide it indoors, you know, that's how the whole indoor
market kind of came about. People having to hide from helicopters or nosy neighbors looking over
your fence, right? But you know, you know, in all actual honesty, the landscape of cannabis is where
it needs to grow outside. So yeah, you said that Kush, yeah, that's why they want to name the
town Kush, Colorado. And it is something that grows really good at the climate and cold,
regional is something I find when you have a... Absolutely. I mean, if you look at the guys in
the Hindu valleys and in the Pakistan valleys, they're not growing in warehouses and cities,
they're growing up in the mountains outside, you know, and they're putting out some fire,
fire, fire, dank. So that's kind of what we want to get back to, not only get back to getting that
fire, dank, but again, get being environmentally friendly, being sustainable and keeping that
overhead cost down. Yeah, I think that's one of the reasons that when a lot of people come here,
they're looking for strains and they can't find them. They're like, why don't you have them here?
And it's because the cannabis doesn't grow here like it does in California. You don't have the
long seasons. You don't have the same strains that will thrive there as you will here. So you're
going to find different strains and being down outdoors, you're definitely going to find different
strains that are going to be perfect for your environment. Absolutely. Here in a few years,
you said you're getting some of your own strains going and hopefully we'll look out for some of
those. Oh yeah, no doubt, no doubt. What are you doing with your final product once you harvest it
this year? That's a great, great question. Like I mentioned, we're going to be doing a collaboration
with an edible company. We're also going to be doing some live rosin. So that's going to be,
that's going to be pretty fun. You know, it's been a good year for the farmer out there in the San
Luis Valley area this year. So we're seeing minimal seeds to zero seeds in some of our
strands out there. So, you know, some of that might absolutely go to some of our pre-roll market,
you know, we'll just have to see, but we definitely for the fall look forward to some of this premium
quality indoor flower. So greenhouse flower. So it's definitely going to be on shelves and yeah.
So you mentioned the pre-rolls. Do you have any pre-rolls on shelves right now? Absolutely,
absolutely. So our pre-roll branch, our pre-roll brand launched a couple months ago. We're in a
couple dispensaries. We actually just picked up a new dispensary in Kenosha Pass, South Park. So
shout out South Park. But we're in Penners, Colorado, we're in Penners and Hoopers, Colorado,
Golden Meds, Denver Kush Club and a spot in Durango. So y'all go get your pre-rolls,
AKA trap sticks, scan your QR codes for future drops, free merch giveaways and also new strands.
So what strains did you have out there on the market already? Colorado, Kush,
Wookiees and Purple Dream. And what were those five for 20 you said on the shelf?
Yeah, you know, it's kind of really hard to say what it depends on what location you go to,
you know, the wholesale obviously is different from the retail. So it just depends on what
spot you go to. I've seen them as low as $7 a pre-roll, I've seen them as high as 12.
So personally, I'm not much on the pre-rolls. I don't smoke joints, I smoke blunt, I roll my own.
Everybody has a preferred way. My roommate smokes bowls, the other one smokes joints,
and we all just smoke our own. I used to work in a dispensary and I know that pre-rolls are a huge
market for the tourists, for the people out there on the go, don't want to carry a bowl. And what
puts your pre-rolls apart from the rest? Yeah, and you know, that's been the stigma for
a long time that pre-rolls, number one pre-rolls, they all taste the same, right? They don't have
any taste or I have to roll it to loosen it up because it just smokes too tight. So that what
separates our pre-rolls from the ones that's typically on the market is not only is it
sown, grown organically, but we use the whole plant, we use buds, we don't use sugar leaves or
any bottom buds, we don't, you know, any lowers or anything like that. We use everything from the mid
up. So that's one thing that separates, not only that, you know, we do a method of hand pack,
hand grind, so we don't run it through any future rollers, any of these hand packing machines,
you know, we manually do it, we put the sweat equity in it for a better product at the end.
Yeah, that sounds good. I know that the market out there is great for that and you guys are
in town or in Colorado, make sure to look out for Grozilla 5280 pre-rolls on the shelves.
So would you like to give a shout out to anybody out there, Gro?
Yeah, man, shout out to, man, the whole social equity community for, you know, for getting this
movement going, man. Shout out to Area 424, you know, making it happen for your boy, man.
Brain-striped genetics, Purple Mountain Farms, Better Days Delivery, Blaze the Go,
Color of Cannabis, I mean, the Colorado Cannabis Business Office, I mean, there's a lot of Denver
excise, there's a lot of people that play, you know, Sullivan, Matt Ozarth, you know, there's a
lot of people that play the instrument, a huge instrumental role in this journey. So man, if I
was to do shout out to the B for the next hour, but yeah, I mean, if I miss anyone, I love y'all.
Wow, Holly, appreciate you coming on the show today. And we will be in touch. I'm going to have
you on the show again so we can talk about this further. We'll see each other down the Area 420
here in a few weeks for the, what is it, the Harvest Festival with Heart and Soil. Yeah, man,
we have a couple vendors, a list of vendors coming up with Heart and Soil, man. It's going to be a
great event. I believe it's going to be October 15th. Don't quote me on that, but you can go to
the Area 420 Facebook slash Instagram page and get more details. Yeah, they're sharing seeds.
Not only in cannabis seeds, but vegetable seeds, companion plant seeds. I'll be down there with
some basil seeds to give away. It's the harvest season, right? Not only for cannabis, but for,
you know, for all agriculture, for all living things. So let's just have a, let's go down there
and let's have a blast. Yes, sir. Peace. Thanks for coming on.
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for food, fuel, viral and a little bit of fun. See the joint ain't necessarily the point, but I want
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